Nov 13, 2023 City Commission Conference Agenda

[1. Call to Order]

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. >>MAYOR HUDSON: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEET FOG ORDER. MONDAY, NOVEMBER 13.

PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEG

ALLEGIANCE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF ITS UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

YES, MA'AM. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK:

PRESENT. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: YES,

MA'AM. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON:

[a. Coast Guard City Designation]

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: PRESENT, MA'AM.

>> THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE COAST GUARD CITY

DESIGNATION. >>MAYOR HUDSON: MR. REALS.

>> GOOD MORNING, MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION.

THE COAST GUARD DESIGNATION WAS BROUGHT TO THE CITY MANAGER BY A MEMBER OF OUR COMMISSION, COMMISSIONER BRODERICK.

SO WITH US TODAY IS FLOTILLA COMMANDER AND MEMBERS OF HIS TEAM BACK -- TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AND SPEAK ON THE ITEM. THOSE ARE BEFORE US TODAY.

MRARZ MAYOR MR. BRODERICK, DO YOU HAVE A LEAD-IN ON THIS?

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: I DO. CARL SITTING ON THE FAR LEFT.

WE ARE FRIEND THROUGH GYM OF ALL PLACES.

AND AN ONGOING DIALOGUE RELATIVE TO THE COAST GUARD'S PRESENCE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, THEIR EXTENSIVE HISTORY HERE THAT FORT PIERCE HERE IS CLOSELY IDENTIFIED REQUEST THE COAST GUARD AND THE NAVY SEAL AND. AND THE COAST GUARD WORKS IN UNISON AND SUPPORT LOCALLY LOOKING TO PROMOTE THEIR ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO OFFER FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE WHICH CANDIDLY IS QUITE EXTENSIVE WITH THE AUXILIARY AND THE PACE HERE LOCALLY.

IT IS ALMOST AS IF IT IS A GEMS THAT WE HAVE YET TO REALLY EMBRACE FULLY AND APPRECIATE. THE ANNUAL TOURS THEY GIVE OF THE BASE AND THE SHIPS, MEETING THE STAFFED, ALL THE YOUNG GUYS THAT COME -- AND LADIES THAT COME THROUGH IS REALLY A DYNAMIC FEATURE. %-P COURSE, LENDS A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF SECURITY TO OUR INLET. SO WE WERE -- IN DISCUSSING THIS, WE THOUGHT IT WAS APPROPRIATE WITH THE PROGRAM OF BECOMING A DESIGNATED COAST GUARD CITY IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE WOULD WANT TO INVESTIGATE AND STRENGTHEN OUR TIES WITH THE COAST GUARD LOCALLY.

AND SO I THINK THIS IS A WIN-WIN ACROSS THE BOARD.

I AM VERY EXCITED TO HEAR THEIR COMMENTARY THIS MORNING.

YOU SAW IN THE BACK-UP INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED SOMEWHAT THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE.

BUT ONE OF THE KEY FEATURES OF THIS.

AND I AM SURE THEY WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ELABORATE ON THIS, THAT THE NUMBER OF COAST GUARD DESIGNATED CITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY ARE VERY MINIMAL AND THING IS A VERY PRESTIGIOUS HONOR IF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE COULD WORK TO COMPLETE THIS. I DON'T WARRANT TO STEAL THEIR THUNDER. MAYBE I JUST DID.

WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THEY PRESENT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: I WOULD TOO. WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME FORWARD?

YOU ARE A SPOKESPERSON. >> I JUST HAVE --

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THAT IS IT FINE.

PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF. >> I AM CARL HANS, THE FLOTILLA COMMANDER OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

I LOVE THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, BY THE WAY.

WE CAME DOWN HERE FIVE YEARS AGO ON A TRAWLER WITH THE INTENTION OF GOING THROUGH MIAMI AND FURTHER SOUTH.

AND WE GOT STUCK IN YOUR CITY MARINA FOR THREE MONTHS.

THE NEXT THING I KNEW, I ENDED UP BUYING A PLACE.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: IT WAS A STRATEGY.

>> BEAUTIFUL LITTLE COMMUNITY HERE.

FLOTILLA COMMANDER FOR FORT PIERCE.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THE CITY'S U.S. COAST GUARD PROGRAM. WE AT FORT PIERCE ARE A PERFECT FIT. MANY PIECES ARE IN PLACE.

VETERANS PARK GATHERING. ELECTRONIC BOARD TO DISPLAY THE INFORMATION AND A LONG HISTORY WITH THE U.S. COAST GUARD.

I THINK YOU ARE PERFECTLY IN PLACE FOR THIS.

ONE OF THE ITEMS, LIKE MOST THINGS, WILL COME DOWN TO DETAILS AND THAT'S WHERE IT WILL BE STICKY.

ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WANTEDED TO BE REVIEWED ARE LETTERS FROM LOCAL NONPROFITS. WIDE AREA.

AS WIDE A GROUP AS YOU CAN GET TO BUY INTO THIS PROGRAM.

THE LETTERS SHOULD INCLUDE A LIST OF WHAT WE CAN TO DO INCLUDE THE COAST GUARD IN THIS PROGRAM.

WE DON'T NEED LETTERS THAT SAY THE COAST GUARD IS GREAT.

YOU DON'T NEED TO REPEAT WHAT IS COMPLETELY OBVIOUS.

YOU NEED LETTERS COMMITTING THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO DO AT THIS PARTICULAR WAY. THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS.

HAVING THE PRIVILEGE OF SPEAKING AT THE ROTARY CLUB AND ATTENDING

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ONE OF THE FEW GROUPS I HAVE SEEN THAT HAVE COMMITTEES THAT JUST DON'T HAVE COMMUNITY MEETING.

THEY HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND GET RESULTS.

I AM VERY IMPRESSED WITH THAT GROUP.

THEY ARE LIKE BULLDOGS. YOU MIGHT WANT TO GET YOUR GUYS INVOLVED IN THAT. I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE OFFICERS INVOLVED AT THE COAST GUARD CITY IN WASHINGTON.

THE BIG THING I TOOK AWAY FROM THEM THEY ARE LOOKING FOR REAL, AUTHENTIC AND ONGOING SUPPORT FOR THE COAST GUARD.

LIKE A FIVE-YEAR PROGRAM AND YOU HAVE TO RENEW IT AGAIN.

THEY WANT TO SEE WHAT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE WILL DO.

THE TIGHT FAMILY OUT THERE, HOW WE CAN INCORPORATE THEM INTO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. THE KEY IDEA OF THE COAST GUARD CITY PROGRAM TO MAKE THE COAST GUARD PART OF THE FAMILY TO CELEBRATE THE SUCCESSES OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

FOR EXAMPLE -- I WILL JUST TELL YOU THIS BECAUSE I HAVE KNOWN.

THE NEWEST MEMBER OF THE PASSED THE BOARD FOR A WATCH COMMANDER.

IT SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN LIGHTLY. HE NEEDS 100 POINTS OF RESPONSIBILITY, AOR AND TAKE A TEST RECITING IT AT 100%.

NO PROMPTS. HE TO LEARN THE LOCATION AND NAMES OF ALL THE BRIDGES IN THE A.O.R.

KNOW THE LOCATIONS AND MARKINGS OF ALL THE SHOALS, THEIR NUMBER, THE LATE SEQUENCE AND RECOGNIZE FROM THE LATITUDE AND LONGITUDE IF AN EVENT IS TAKING PLACE. THIS KID IS 19.

THE DAY OF HIS BOARD, DANCING BETWEEN COMPLETE CONFIDENCE AND UTTER DREAD OF PASSING. HE PASSED.

I STOPPED IN OVER THE WEEKEND TO CONGRATULATE HIM AND HE WAS SMILES. HE HAD VERY GOOD SUCCESS FOR AS YOUNG AS HE IS. I THINK WE NEED TO CELEBRATE THOSE THINGS THIS SUCCESS STORY OCCURS IN GREAT NUMBERS AT THE STATION. BOARDING OFFICERS, BOAT CREW.

CARRIES OUT A RESCUE. BRINGS IN A STRANDED BOATER.

ALL OF THOSE THINGS CAN BE RECOGNIZED IN SOME WAY.

I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THOSE THINGS.

PERSON -- THE PEOPLE AT THE STATION ARE ALSO PEOPLE AS WELL.

THEY HAVE BIRTHDAYS. THEY GET ENGAGED.

THEY GET MARRIED. THEY HAVE KIDS.

WHEN WE CELEBRATE WITH OUR FAMILY.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM CELEBRATE WITH THEIR FAMILY.

WITH THE GUARD CITY PROGRAM WE CAN SHARE OUR JOY AT THE COAST GUARD. AT AUCTION I WILL RYE, WILLING TO HELP OUT TO GET THE PROGRAM UP AND RUNNING.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU, SIR.

ANY QUESTIONS OF THIS GENTLEMAN? QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: THANK YOU FOR COMING TO SPEAK TO US.

I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA AND THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, FOR

BRINGING THIS. >> OH, THANK YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: WE SIT ON A NUMBER OF BOARDS NONPROFITS ACROSS THE CITY ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN MANY OF THEM. OUTSIDE SAYING YES, COAST GUARD IS GREAT WHICH YOU ALREADY SAID AND WE AGREE WITH YOU.

WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? EXAMPLES -- LETTERS OF EXAMPLES

THAT WE CAN LOOK AT? >> I DON'T HAVE -- THE TAKE AWAY IS -- FOR EXAMPLE IF I OWN -- LET'S PRETEND I OWN TACO DIVE.

SO I OWN TACO DIVE AND I SIGN UP FOR THIS THING.

A FIREMAN PASSES HIS BOARD. WE WILL GET SOME KIND OF CONNECTION BETWEEN THE COAST GUARD AND CITY AND SAY SO AND SO RECENTLY PASSED HIS BOARD. TACO DIVE.

HERE IS LUNCH. IT IS ON ME.

BRING ONE OF YOUR BUDDIES DOWN AND GIVE LUNCH.

THAT IS MY CONGRATULATIONS. SEND A LETTER, CONGRATULATIONS ON COMPLETING THE BOARD. THE IDEA BEHIND IT.

YOU NEED FORMAL -- CELEBRATE THE COAST GUARD'S BIRTHDAY IN SOME FORM OR WAY. I BELIEVE WE HAVE SEA SCOUTS THAT MAY BE ABLE TO THE HONOR GUARD.

THAT SORT OF THING. PUT POSTING OUT FRONT ON THE SIGN BOARD CONGRATULATING PEOPLE.

HAPPY COAST GUARD DAY. THE CITY, CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE COULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING, MAYBE PUT SIGNS IN THE WIN ALLERGIES. QUESTION SUPPORT OUR COAST GUARD. THIRD TUESDAY OF THE MONTH COULD BE COAST GUARD DA DAY. COME IN AND SHOW YOUR 34I89 ID AND GET A DISCOUNT. ALL WILL BE PUT OUT IN THE LETTER YOU WILL SEND DOWN TO WASHINGTON.

SPEAKING TO THE LADY -- THE WOMAN IN WASHINGTON, THERE IS A TIMELINE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PACK KET YOU GOT, A SPECIFIC TIMELINE. THAT IS NOT IN CONCRETE ANYMORE.

AS YOU GATHER ALL THE STUFF UP, WHEN YOU THINK YOU HAVE ENOUGH STUFF, YOU CAN SUBMIT THE PACKAGE.

THE HARD PART -- NOT THE HARD PART -- DIFFICULT AWARD TO GET.

AT LAST COUNT, 29 CITIES NATIONWIDE AND NOT THAT MANY.

TAKES A ACT OF CONGRESS TO GET IT DONE LITERALLY.

GIVE A CALL TO THE LOCAL CONGRESSMAN AND SAY THIS IS WHAT

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THESE GUYS OUT HERE ARE GREAT AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. I WAS JUST TALKING TO ONE OF THE GUYS. WHAT HAPPENED.

OH, OUR ANNIVERSARY WHERE DID YOU GO.

WENT DOWN TO STUART. I WAS LIKE, WHY? SO MANY PLACES IN FORT PIERCE. HE SAID I KNOW BUT -- THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THIRD ANNIVERSARY, YOU KNOW, GO TO PICKLES, FIND SOME PLACE HERE.

TWO-FOR-ONE COUPON. THE IDEA TO GET THE GUYS -- THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, THAT THEY JUST AREN'T SHOWING UP FOR WORK.

THY ARE PART OF THE COMMUNITY. THE BIG TAKEAWAY FROM IT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: COMMANDER HAHN, THANK YOU FOR THIS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

I HAVE A QUESTION. I READ THE PACKAGE.

I THINK IT IS FANTASTIC. WHAT WILL -- WHAT RECRUITMENT OF PEOPLE, YOUNG PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY FROM MY AREA PLAY RECOG RECOGNITION AND SOMETHING SOMETHING THAT WILL FACTOR IN OF YOUNG PEOPLE NOT KNOWING ABOUT

CAREERS IN THE COAST GUARD. >> IF YOU DO THAT, I THINK THE

COAST GUARD WILL BE ECSTATIC. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: OKAY. THE REASON I WOULD SAY THAT IS THIS PAST WEEKEND ON SATURDAY, FLORIDA A ANDM SIGNED A MOU TO BRING YOUNG PEOPLE AND PROVIDE A COURSE OF STRAINING AT FLORIDA A&M UNIVERSITY A CRITICAL PATHWAY ALONG FORT PIERCE AND TREASURE COAST PARTICULARLY FOR AFRICAN-AMERICANS. THAT MOU SITS ON CAMPUS TO ALLOW PEOPLE, YOUNG PEOPLE, TAKE SERVICE AND GETTING MORE EXPOSURE TO COAST GUARD. YOUR TIMING IS EXCELLENT.

I OF THIS THINK OF OUR COMMUNITY AND BEING A NATIVE, I GREW UP HERE AND I KNEW THE COAST GUARD STATION WAS THERE.

I NEVER HAVE BEEN ON YOUR CAMPUS.

I KNOW YOUNG PEOPLE HERE WILL REALLY LOOK AT AN OPPORTUNITY THROUGH THE COAST GUARD. AND I THINK THAT IS LIFE-CHANGING AND I WOULD LIKE TO CONNECT THAT.

AS PART OF A PACKAGE, THAT WILL BE MY PUSH TO CONTINUE TO PARTNER TO PROVIDE CAREER PATHWAYS FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO EXPOSE THEM TO WHAT IS HERE AND THEN GET THEM INVOLVED WITH THAT. AND GET THEM TO MEET YOUR OFFICERS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE IN THE COAST GUARD.

IF THEY WANT TO GO FURTHER TO FLORIDA A&M AND WE HAVE A PATHWAY. I LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THIS AND THAT IS MY CONNECTION. I AM HIGHLY CONNECTED TO FLORIDA A&M UNIVERSITY. THIS WEEKEND THE BIG GUY FROM DC WAS IN THERE TO SIGN THE HOW WITH US.

IT WAS A HISTORIC OCCASION BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ONLY SERVICE BRANCH WE DID NOT HAVE ON OUR CAMPUS AND WE CONCLUDED THAT THIS PAST WEEKEND ON VETERANS DAY.

>> I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE COAST GUARD, BUT GET IN CONNECTION WITH SOME OF THE RECRUITERS IN MIAMI AND ORLANDO, YOU MIGHT HAVE A DIRECT CONNECTION AND EXPLAIN WHAT IS

GOING ON THAT WAY. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. I LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING THIS AND WHAT IT WILL DO FOR OUR YOUNG I'M GIVING THEM CAREER OPPORTUNITY HERE IN FORT PIERCE. YES, SIR.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

IT LOOKS LIKE WE NEED TO DO SOME HOMEWORK AND WE NEED TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF -- WE MEET ALL OF THIS.

LOOKS LIKE THE CERTIFICATION -- THE END RESULT WILL BE A CLOSER RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE U.S. COAST GUARD AND THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, I WOULD ASSUME. THAT IS THE GOAL.

>> THAT WOULD BE THE GOAL. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THE GOAL.

SOME OF US RIDE BY THERE EVERY DAY.

YOU KNOW IT IS THERE. YOU ARE GLAD IT IS THERE.

BUT YOU ARE NOT QUITE SURE WHAT IT DOES.

I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY -- THE CHAMBER HAD -- AND THE COAST GUARD HAD AN OPEN HOUSE A YEAR OR SO AGO.

SO I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.

AND PEOPLE WOULD BE VERY, VERY SURPRISED BECAUSE THEY THINK OF THE COAST GUARD AS THE RESCUE OPERATION.

THAT IS WHAT THEY THINK OF. THEY DON'T KNOW ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS YOU DO UNDER THE GUISE OF HOMELAND.

IT IS IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT A GEM WE HAVE.

AND HOW LUCKY WE ARE TO HAVE YOU IN OUR COMMUNITY BUT WE DON'T OFTEN INTERACT. A FENCE AROUND YOU, FOR GOOD REASON. AND SO I THINK THIS WOULD BE A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY.

WE JUST -- WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE REQUIREMENTS AND COME UP WITH A WAY TO DO IT. AND WORK WITH YOU.

BECAUSE I THINK THAT YOU AND THE PEOPLE THAT SERVE ON THAT BASE NEED MORE EXPOSURE TO THE PEOPLE OF FORT PIERCE AND VICE VERSA.

>> YEAH, WE AS THE AUXILIARY CAN DO WHATEVER YOU NEED US TO DO.

THIS HAS TO BE A CITY-DRIVEN PROGRAM.

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CAN POINT YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: GLAD YOU CLARIFIED THAT.

>> NEEDS TO COME FROM THE CITY TO THE COAST GUARD.

AND WE CAN AID IN WHATEVER WE NEED.

WE CAN RUN AROUND. BE THE FOOT SOLDIERS.

CARRY THE MESSAGE. THAT KIND OF THING.

ON THE CITY TO DO THAT. I AM GLAD YOU ARE COMMITTED TO IT. I THINK THAT WILL BE GREAT.

I WOULD LOVE TO SIGH A SIGN RIGHT ALONG "WELCOME TO FORT

PIERCE." >>MAYOR HUDSON: BENEFITS BOTH ORGANIZATIONS. I MET THE HEAD OF THE SEA SCOUTS YESTERDAY, EDWIN BINNY. THEY USED TO BE ON THE PELICAN YACHT CLUB LAND BUT NOW THEY ARE IN YOUR BUILDING, RIGHT, EXACTLY. HAPPY TO KNOW THEY ARE STILL

ACTIVE. >> YEAH, SO -- ANYTHING ELSE WE

CAN DO OR QUESTIONS. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: WHAT

COMMENTS -- >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER BROD BRODERICK.

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: QUICK COMMENT.

WE ARE SPOILED WITH THE FACT THAT WHEN WE GO ACROSS THE BRIDGE SEVERAL DAYS TO GO TO WORK EVERY MORNING AND SEE THE COAST GUARD SHIP, WE TAKE IT FOR GRANTED .THAT LEVEL OF SECURITY FOR CITY OF FORT PIERCE IS UNMATCHED THAT WE ARE SO USED TO SEEING IT THAT -- IT IS JUST A WONDERFUL THING TO HAVE THE STATION HERE, THE HISTORY, THE PERSPECTIVE OF ALL THAT.

I REALLY THINK THAT THE CITY CAN STEP UP.

AND COMMANDER, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST, IS THAT THE COMMISSION CAN TASK SOME OF THIS TO CITY STAFF TO LIAISON DIRECTLY. WHO WILL THEY WORK WITH HERE? CAN YOU JUST GIVE ME AN OVERVIEW OF THE LOGISTICS OF THIS.

HOW WE WOULD COMMENCE. HOW WE COMMUNICATE WHERE WE ARE AT. AND HOW THE PROGRAM ROLLS OUT?

>> I WOULD TELL YOU -- I -- WE DO THE AUXILIARY ON MY PART, BUT LET THE COAST GUARD SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF IF YOU WANT TO ASK

THOSE GUYS. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: THAT WOULD BE GREAT. IF WE ARE TO SET UP A SYSTEM TO GET THIS MOVING FORWARD, WE ARE GOING TO NEED CONTACTS AND LIAISONS AND, ETC., TO DIRECT CITY STAFF AND COMMISSION FOLKS AS WELL IF THEY WANT TO ENGAGE. I THINK WE WILL NEED TO GET TO THE PRACTICAL SEED OF THIS REASONABLY QUICKLY SO IT DOESN'T GET KIND OF DRIFTED OFF TO THE SIDE.

SO, YES, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR ANY OTHER INPUT THAT YOUR FOLKS

WOULD LIKE TO GIVE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: YES, SIR.

GOOD MORNING, AND WELCOME. >> GOOD MORNING, MADAM MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. COMMANDING OFFICER OF FORT PIERCE. AS ACTIVE DUTY, WE CAN NOT DRIVE THIS PROGRAM. THE PROGRAM IS MET FOR THE CITY TO WANT TO ENGAGE WITH US, BUT WE ARE HERE TO HELP.

IF YOU DO DECIDE TO TAKE ON THIS ENDEAVOR, WE WILL PROVIDE ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

SO TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILMEMBER, IF YOU NEED ANYTHING, COME UP TO MYSELF, BMC -- HE IS THE EXECUTIVE PETTY OFFICER AND WE WILL GET ANY OF OUR STAFF TO HELP YOU OUT WITH ANYTHING THAT YOU NEED. I DO BELIEVE ONE PART OF THE PACKAGE IS A LETTER FROM MYSELF ENCOURAGING THAT.

WHEN HE GETS TO THAT POINT, I CAN HAVE ONE DRAFTED AND READY TO GO. IT IS A GREAT PROGRAM.

TO YOUR POINT, SIR SIR, WITH RECRUITMENT.

ANY DESIGNATED COAST GUARD CITY HAS THAT SIGN.

YOU COME TO "WELCOME FORT PIERCE" SAYS A DESIGNATED COAST GUARD CITY. IT GETS THE MESSAGE OUT TO THE COMMUNITY CELEBRATING THE COAST GUARD'S BIRTHDAY.

AS A MEMBER OF THE COAST GUARD, WE NEED RECRUITMENT RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE BEEN TALKING IN-HOUSE OF HAVING MORE OPEN HOUSES BUT DRIVEN STRICTLY FOR IMPROVEMENT. LOOKING FOR JUNIOR PEOPLE -- JUNIORS AND SOUTHEASTERN I DON'T REMEMBERS IN HIGH SCHOOL INTERESTED TO COME ON THE BAA IS.

WE NEED TO GET TOGETHER WITH THE CITY.

AS A COAST GUARD I HAVE BEEN HERE TEN YEARS.

NINE MOVES. WE MOVE TYPICALLY EVERY THREE TO FOUR YEARS. JUNIOR MEMBERS COMING TO FORT PIERCE FOR THEIR FIRST TOUR OF DUTY.

OFTENTIMES A FIRST TIME AWAY FROM HOME.

HAVING THAT DESIGNATED COAST GUARD CITY MAKES THEM MORE AT EASE WHEN THEY GET HERE. WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL THROUGH AUXILIARY AND PROVIDING

EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER

GAINES. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I AM FOLLOWING UP ON COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

BORN AND RAISED HERE. I THINK THAT PASSED THAT BASE -- I DON'T EVER THINK I STEPPED FOOT ON THAT BASE, BUT THE ONE THING I DO KNOW, WITH RECRUITMENT AND I AM VERY ACTIVE IN THE YOUTH IN FORT PIERCE. I THINK IT IS A GREAT PROGRAM TO OPEN UP SOME EYES BECAUSE A LOT OF YOUTH CAN PROBABLY USE THIS -- YOU GET YOUR HANDS ON SO TO SPEAK AND YOU SAY I DIDN'T KNOW

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ALL FOR THIS PROGRAM, GUYS. MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR ITS KIDS -- THE JUNIORS AND SENIORS OF FORT PIERCE TO HAVE EAR OPTIONS.

ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO THROW OUT WITH THIS BEING ALL THE DETAILS TO GO THROUGH. SOMETHING THAT WE WILL ALSO WANT TO TALK TO OUR PARTNERS AT THE COUNTY AND LET THEM COME IN.

LET THEM COME IN AND SAY, HEY, WE CAN GET MORE RECOMMENDATIONS.

MORE RECOMMENDATIONS. BECAUSE THE MORE WE GET, THE BETTER CHANCE WE HAVE OF GETTING A DESIGNATION.

AS -- AS COMMISSIONER BRODERICK SAID, WE ALL SIT UP HERE AND MOST OF THE RESIDENTS THAT DON'T KNOW TAKE FOR GRANTED.

JUST SECURITY LIKE YOU SAID OF THEIR COAST GUARD STATION RIGHT THERE OF FORT PIERCE. WE DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT, BUT IT IS RIGHT THERE. AND THEY ARE READY TO ACT.

I AM WITH THE PROGRAM. I WILL DO EVERYTHING.

IN MY POWER SITTING HERE TO MAKE SURE -- TO SEE IF WE CAN GET IN DESIGNATION AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >>MAYOR HUDSON: YOUR 80TH

BIRTHDAY THIS YEAR? >> 233RD MA'AM.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: 80TH WAS MAYBE THE AUXILIARY.

SORRY, I APOLOGIZE. AT THE VETERANS DAY CEREMONY ON SATURDAY, WE DID CELEBRATE ALL BRANCHES OF SERVICES INCLUDING THE COAST GUARD AND WE HAVE A BENCH THERE IN HONOR OF THE COAST GUARD TOO. I KNOW THAT THE COAST GUARD WAS VERY HELPFUL WHEN WE CELEBRATED THE 100TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE INLET. YOU HELPED US A LOT IN THAT

CELEBRATION. >> THE COAST GUARD HAS A RICH HISTORY IN FORT PIERCE. ORIGINAL COAST GUARD STATION 1930S. LIFE-SAVING SERVICE STATION.

WE LATER RELOCATED WHERE WE ARE NOW.

THE COAST GUARD'S HISTORY IN FORT PIERCE IS COMING UP ON 100 YEARS. WE HAVE FOUR ACTION DUTY UNITS.

TWO 80-FOOT PATROL BOATS. NAVIGATION SYSTEM IN THE STATION. AND COAST GUARD AUXILIARY.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: BEFORE THAT, THE HOUSE OF REFUGE.

VERY HISTORIC A AND WE SHOULD BE CLOSER TOGETHER IN PARTNERS.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR, ONE LAST QUESTION.

CAN WE STOP FOR YOU ANY TIME AND ASK FOR YOU AT THE GATE.

TRY TO GET A LITTLE HISTORY AND BACKGROUND AS WE DEVELOP THIS APPLICATION? I MEAN, PERSONALLY THAT IS WHAT I LIKE TO DO IS INVEST MYSELF INTO THE PROCESS AND THEN SEE WHAT WE CAN ADD TO AN APPLICATION.

SO WE CAN STOP IN ANY TIME? >> YES, SIR.

STOP AT THE GATE. THE WATCH COMMANDER WILL ASK FOR MYSELF, PMC, AND TAKE YOU ON A BOAT RIDE, TAKE YOU ON A TOUR.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: UNFORTUNATELY WE CAN'T COME TOGETHER BECAUSE OF SUNSHINE, BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT ONE AT A TIME.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR.

MR. REALS, THIS POINT WITH A STAFF LEVEL, PASS TO MR. MIMMS. DESIGNATE A STAFF MEMBER THAT WILL HEAD UP THIS EFFORT.

IS THAT YOU OR MISS HURRICANESARNAGE.

>> I HAVE A BARGAINING CHIP SITTING HERE BUT MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. I THINK WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF OBTAINING THAT DESIGNATION AND I BELIEVE WE

HAVE THAT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER

BRODERICK. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, WHAT IS YOUR COMPLEMENT OF STAFF AT THE

STATION OR SECURED INFORMATION. >> IT IS NOT SECURE INFORMATION.

CURRENTLY WE HAVE 29 MEMBERS ACTIVE DUTY AT THE STATION.

THE NAVIGATION TAME HAS FIVE AND EAST PATROL BOAT HAS 14.

WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE STAFFED MORE THAN THAT.

WE ARE GOING THROUGH RECRUITMENT ISSUES AS WAS STATED.

THE UNIT IS SUPPOSED TO BE STAFFED AT 39 TOTAL.

CLOSE TO 100 ACTIVE-DUTY COAST GUARD MEMBERS ON THE BASE.

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS TWO-FOLD. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, YOU TIE INCOME POTENTIAL RECRUITMENT. THAT DIDN'T PASS BY MY HEAD WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT. THAT OPTION IS MINING FOR GOLD, AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED. A PHENOMENAL OPPORTUNITY.

THE SECOND THING, I DON'T THINK WE RECOGNIZED THE ECONOMIC IMPACT HAVING THE BASE HERE REPRESENTS.

AND OTHER MILITARY CITIES AT LEAST FROM MY EXPERIENCE IN THE AREAS, THAT THE COMMUNITY EMBRACES THOSE ORGANIZATIONS AND PARTNERS. AN ECONOMIC ENHANCEMENT NOT ONLY TO MEMBERS OF THE MILITARY THROUGH DISCOUNTS AND FREE LUNCH DAY ON ANNIVERSARIES. THAT TYPE OF THING AND THE DRIVING COMPONENT BECAUSE THEY ARE LOOKING TO DO BUSINESS IN THE COMMUNITY 365 DAY AS YEAR. AN ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO ALL THIS AS WELL. THIS IS A WIN, WIN, WIN ACROSS THE BOARD. A LOT OF CAFFEINE THIS MORNING,

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IF. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: I THINK THAT IS GREAT. I WANT TO ADD TO THAT BECAUSE I THINK THE OTHER POINT, TOO IS I WANT TO INVITE YOU -- IF THERE ARE EVENTS RECRUITMENT OR THINGS YOU DO.

WE WOULD LOVE AS CONDUITS WITH OUR CONNECTION TO NONPROFITS AND YOUTH GROUPS WE ARE IN TO GET THAT OUT.

I WOULD -- WE WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH YOU TO COORDINATE THAT BECAUSE A REAL, IMMEDIATE, EASY FIX TO GET THE WORD OUT IF YOU WANT TO HOST SOME PEOPLE ON YOUR BASE IF THAT WILL BE FANTASTIC.

THE OTHER THING ECONOMICALLY AS YOU THINK ABOUT IT, NOT ONLY THEM, BUT THE PEOPLE YOU DO BUSINESS WITH THAT COME TO -- FOR BUSINESS PURPOSES VISITING OUR CITY.

WE WILL HAVE NO IDEA WE ARE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE WHEN YOU ARE COMING TO -- EITHER INSPECT OR DO WHAT YOU GUYS DO OVER THERE ON THAT BASE. I AM SURE THAT THE NUMBER OF DIG IN ITS THAT COME IN OUT OF FORT PIERCE THAT WE HAVE NO IDEA IS

HERE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. >> YES, SIR, WE HAVE A LOT OF

INSPECTIONS. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: I FIGURED THAT. [LAUGHTER]

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: WE COME OUT TO VISIT, DO WE GET TO

DRIVE THE BOAT? >>MAYOR: NO.

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: I HAD TO TRY.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: DO YOU HAVE A PRESENCE AT IRC.

THE COLLEGE? THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WILL

BE BENEFICIAL. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON:

ABSOLUTELY. >>MAYOR HUDSON: AS WELL AS THE COUNTY. THE COUNTY IS PORT AUTHORITY.

A LOT OF TIE IN. I SEE A LOT OF POSSIBILITIES AND GLAD YOU ARE HERE TODAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: ALL RIGHTY. YOU HAVE GENERAL CONSENSUS WHAT

WE WANT, MR. REALS. >> I THINK WE HAVE ALL THAT WE

[b. Small Business Pathway Program Participant Recognition]

NEED. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU VERY

MUCH. >> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE SMALL BUSINESS PATHWAY PROGRAM RECOGNITION.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: MR. REALS. >> WITH US THIS MORNING A MASHA TO RECOGNIZE SMALL BUSINESS PATHWAY PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS.

>> THANK YOU. ONE SECOND.

I AM GOING TO PULL UP MY PRESENTATION SLIDE.

>> THIS IS THE MOMENT I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR.

GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR AND MECHANICS OF THE BOARD, I PRESENT PARTICIPANTS WHO SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED THE SMALL PATHWAY PROGRAM. FPRA AFTER A SMALL BUSINESS SURVEY. IT CONVEYED A NEED FOR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS TO ACCESS DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS THAT ADDRESS FOUR MAIN TOPICS OF INTEREST: FINANCING, MARKETING AND PROMOTION, SUPPORT SERVICES, AND RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION.

THROUGH THE SUPPORT OF THE CITY AND VARIOUS OTHER PARTNERS, WE SUCCESSFULLY IMPLEMENTED THE PROGRAM FROM LATE SEPTEMBER THROUGH OCTOBER. WE WERE ABLE TO ENGAGE 20 SMALL DISOWNERS AND ASPIRING BUSINESS OWNERS THROUGHOUT THE PROGRAM.

EIGHT OF THOSE PARTICIPANTS ATTENDED EVERY SESSION WITHOUT MISSING A DAY AND AS A RESULT, THEY ARE BEING RECOGNIZED TODAY FOR THEIR COMMITMENTS QUESTION WAS A REWARD OF THE PROGRAM.

AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE PARTICIPANTS TO SIGN BEHIND ME. I WILL READ THE NAMES OF THOSE WE ARE RECOGNIZING TODAY. AMANDA RICH, OWNER OF RICH HEART-TO-HEART ASSISTED LIVING. MELISSA CARTER WITH NATIVE DESIGN ARCHITECTURE. LESLIE GEORGE, MOSAIC INC.

KRISTI POWERS. NATALIE TURNER, TRAINING CENTER LCC. JODY DUGGAN OF DUGGAN STAFFING SOLUTIONS. AND EARL AND ARNESHA DONERY OWNERS OF KINGDOM. TO SET A BAR TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHERS IN THE LONG RUN.

THE PROGRAM WOULD NOT BE SUCCESSFUL WITHOUT THE PARTICIPATION OF EVERYONE. WE KNOW THE CHALLENGES SOMETIMES WITH AVAILABILITY OF SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS AND THANKFUL FOR THOSE WHO DID PARTICIPATE. THE PROGRAM DEMONSTRATED A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS BECAUSE OF THE OVERALL APPRECIATION THAT WAS COMMUNICATED TO US THROUGH THE PROGRAM. ONE OF THE PARTICIPANTS IN PARTICULAR IS PAMELA TURNER WHO WILL SHARE A FEW WORDS WHAT THIS PROGRAMMENTS -- PROGRAM MEANT TO HER.

>> I AM PAMELA TURNER, OWNER OF EMS SAFETY TRAINING CENTER. I APPRECIATING A PART OF THE SMALL BUSINESS PATHWAY PROGRAM BECAUSE A LOT OF NETWORKINGST YOURSELF AS BUSINESS OWNERS, SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, BUT

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WHAT WAS THE OTHER? THE SBDC.

YOU KNOW, TOM -- TOM WAS THE FIRST HIT THAT MORNING -- OR THAT EVENING. SO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE ACCESSIBLE TO YOU, FREE RESOURCES, THINGS THAT WILL COST THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY OUT OF POCKET FOR. SO NOW THAT WE KNOW THESE ITEMS ARE HERE, WE JUST HAVE TO USE THEM.

I AM DEFINITELY PUTTING MY FOOT IN TO GO AHEAD AND USE.

I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN COUNT FOR OTHER SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS HERE AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY AND BEING ABLE TO BE A SPOKESPERSON FOR THEM OR THE PATHWAY PROGRAM ITSELF.

BECAUSE IT IS VERY, VERY HELPFUL.

AND THERE IS, LIKE, NO "OH, I DIDN'T KNOW".

WAIT, WE HAVE THIS PERSON THAT KNOW ABOUT THIS.

IT IS AN OPENING FOR A BUMP OF NETWORKING AND WE APPRECIATE IT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: GOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, PAMELA. GLAD WE GOT SOMEONE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF 6 THE GROUP BECAUSE SHE DEFINITELY REPRESENTED THE OVERALL SENTIMENTS OF EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED.

SO AS PART OF THEIR RECOGNITION, EACH OF THE PARTICIPANTS RECEIVED A SIGNED CERTIFICATE FROM THE MAYOR AND WILL BE RECOGNIZED THROUGH THE CITY'S COMMUNICATION PLATFORM.

NOT THE ONLY DAY YOU WILL BE HEARING ABOUT THEM.

MORE TO COME SPECIAL THANKS TO THE SMALL BUSINESS CENTER.

TOM WAS PHENOMENAL. CAREER SOURCE RESOURCES.

THE CITY CLERK, THE GRANT ADMINISTRATION, THE FPRA AND MARIA BROWN, THE VICE PRESIDENT OF HR WITH LEVINSON BROWN.

AND FINALLY THANK YOU ALL AS A BOARD FOR SUPPORT OF THIS PROGRAM. AT THIS POINT, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THEM AND AFTERWARDS, WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A QUICK GROUP PHOTO IF THAT IS OKAY.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

COMMISSIONER GAINES. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: CONGRATULATIONS. AND ONE QUESTION BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE THIS PROGRAM GROW AND I WANT TO SEE THE LINE GO FROM WALL TO WALL. SO MY QUESTION.

HOW DID YOU GUYS HEAR ABOUT IT? AND HOW CAN YOU HELP US GET THE WORD OUT TO OTHER PEOPLE THAT WILL BE STANDING THERE TO -- SO WE CAN SEE OTHER SUCCESS STORIES?

>> WE FOUND OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA. ONE OF THE ADS.

I THINK IT WAS ON INSTAGRAM THAT WE SAW.

MY WIFE WENT AHEAD AND SIGNED UP AND FROM THERE IT IS NOW HERE.

>> SAME HERE GAINES GAINES IT DOES WORK.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: SOCIAL MEDIA DOES WORK.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, I SENT OUT INDIVIDUAL E-MAILS TO THOSE WHO PARTICIPATED IN OUR SURVEY. FOLKS WE REACHED BEFOREHAND.

I THINK WE REACHED HUNDREDS PEOPLE AND WE HAD A TOTAL OF 30 APPLICATIONS, BUT 20 OF THEM WERE APPROVED BECAUSE YOU HAD TO BE WITHIN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A CONSISTENT SHOWING OF PEOPLE EVERY SESSION, CLOSE TO 20 PEOPLE EVERY TIME SAID A LOT TO ME THERE IS INTEREST OUT THERE. THEY COULD HAVE CHOSE NOT TO SHOW UP BECAUSE NO COST TO THIS, RIGHT.

BUT HOWEVER WE CHOSE TO SPREAD THE WORD THAT IT GOT THERE, I THINK THAT NEXT YEAR WE CAN SEE A BIGGER GROUP LIKE YOU SAID.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: RIGHT. AND YOU HAVE TESTIMONIALS NOW.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: MADAM CHAIR.

>> WE ARE THE AMBASSADORS. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON:

THAT IS WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY. >> WE ARE AMBASSADORS.

YOU SEE IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU SAY, IS THIS REALLY REAL? WE KNOW IT IS BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH IT. WE WILL BE GREAT AMBASSADORS FOR

THE PROGRAM FOR YEARS TO COME. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON:

APPRECIATE IT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: IF SOMEBODY SPEAKS, SPEAK IN THE MICROPHONE SO THE RECORDING GETS IT.

THAT'S RIGHT. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS. HOW LONG WAS THE PROGRAM IN TOTALITY? JUST CURIOUS?

>> IT WAS ONLY A MONTH, BUT FOUR SESSIONS.

FOUR WEEKS. ONE PER WEEK.

ONE SESSION PER WEEK. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THIS MEETING IS BEING RECORDED. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU INTERVIEW THEM AND PUT THAT THERE AND I THINK THE TESTIMONY FROM THE PLATFORM TODAY IS PEOPLE ARE WATCHING THIS.

AND WHAT THEY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT FORT PIERCE IS THAT SOMEBODY WILL RECOGNIZE YOU AND TELL SOMEBODY AND TELL SOMEBODY AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO. THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR WORDS THIS MORNING. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.

LOOKING AT NEXT YEAR TIME FLAME. THE SAME TIME TO DO THIS

PROGRAM. >> POTENTIALLY LITTLE EARLIER.

LOOKING AT WAYS TO ENHANCE THE PROGRAM.

ATTACHING GRANT DOLLARS OR OTHER TYPE OF RESOURCES THAT MAY ADDED

VALUE TO THE PROGRAM. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON:

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>> WE OPEN IT UP TO POTENTIAL BUSINESS OWNERS AND OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS. IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO BE A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER IN THE CITY, YOUR HOME ADDRESS HAS TO BE HERE.

IF YOUR A BUSINESS OWNER, THE BUSINESS ADDRESS HAS TO BE HERE.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: I WANTED TO GET THAT OUT THERE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: COULD WE TAKE A MINUTE FOR EACH OF THEM FOR THEM TO TELL US WHAT THE BUSINESS IS. NOT A VERY LONG -- JUST TELL US

WHAT YOUR BUSINESS IS. >> WE CAN START WITH YOU AND

THEN -- >> GOOD MORNING.

EARL DEMERY, MY BUSINESS WITH MY WIFE CAN KING HAIR CARE.

A HAIR CARE, WE PROMOTE HEALTHY LIFESTYLE THROUGH HEALTHY HAIR.

WE HAVE BEARD PRODUCTS AND HAIR PRODUCTS.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: WHERE ARE YOU LOCATED?

>> HERE IN FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA. >>MAYOR HUDSON: GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> LESLIE GEORGE AND LOCATED HERE IN FORT PIERCE, AND MY BUSINESS IS ABOUT PUBLISHING.

I HELP PEOPLE PUBLISH THEIR BOOKS.

GET THEIR STORIES OUT. BETTER YOU TELL YOUR STORY THAN

SOMEONE ELSE TELLS THEIR STORY. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THAT IS MOSAIC?

OKAY, GREAT. >> PAMELA TURNER, EMS HEALTH CARE TRAINING CENTER LCC. FOCUS ON CNA TRAINING, HOME HEALTH, BLOODBORNE PATH AGAIN AND STATE EXAMPLES FOR

LICENSURES. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF ANYBODY IS WATCHING THIS THEY CAN CONTACTS ANY OF THESE PEOPLE THROUGH YOU, MARSHA.

>> EXACTLY. WE WILL PUSH OUT THEIR COMMUNICATION ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA, WEB SITE.

INFORMATION WILL BE FORTHCOMING .THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE THESE FOLKS. THEY TRULY APPRECIATE IT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: DO YOU HAVE SOMEBODY TO TAKE YOUR PICTURE.

>> I WILL KINDSLY ASK -- WOULD YOU LIKE AT THAT --

>>MAYOR HUDSON: COME DOWN HERE --

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: COME UP HERE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: COME AND STAND HE

HERE. >> YOU CAN HOLD YOUR CERTIFICATE

IN FRONT OF YOU. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: GLAD YOU

SAID BEARD CARE. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: YOU

NEED THE EXTRA HAIR. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I WILL SEE THEM FOR MY BEARD CARE. TOO LATE FOR THE OTHER PART.

[LAUGHTER]

. >> JUST TAKING A BUNCH.

>> THAT'S OKAY. >> YOU CAN GET ONE WITHOUT ME.

>> PHOTOSHOP MR. MIMMS IN. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: CONGRATULATIONS.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: NOW WE NEED TO GET PEOPLE ON COMMITTEES IN FORT PIERCE. THAT IS YOUR NEXT JOB.

[c. Community Events & Festivals Report - Public Works]

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: GREAT NEWS ON A MONDAY MORNING.

>> THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS THE COMMUNITY EVENTS AND FESTIVAL REPORTS. PUBLIC WORKS.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: MR. REALS. >> MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION. BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. WE WARRANTED TO COME BEFORE YOU FOR SOME TIME TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME FIGURES ON OUR EVENTS AND RENTALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SHOW SOME COMPARISONS OF SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR YOUR INPUT. WE -- WE ARE RECOMMENDING MAKING SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TODAY TO RAISE SOME OF OUR FEES.

BUT WE WANT TO SHARE THE INFORMATION WITH YOU FIRST.

AND THEN GET YOUR FEEDBACK. WITH US TODAY IS FACILITIES PROGRAM SPECIALIST MIC MICHELLE KUBECHEK.

SHE WILL BE SOLO BECAUSE I AM UP HERE, BUT I'M HERE TO ASSIST IN

ANY WAY. >>MAYOR HUDSON: WELCOME.

>> GOOD MORNING, MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

WE WANTED TO BRING THE RATES TO YOU ABOUT INCREASING THEM.

WE HAVE NOT HAD A RATE INCREASE SINCE WE PRETTY MUCH TOOK IT OVER IN 2010 AT THE RIVER WALK CENTER.

RENTING THE GARDEN CLUB FOR OLD CITY HALL AND THE SAME PRICE IN

20 YEARS. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ARE WE SUPPOSED

TO HAVE SOMETHING ON OUR SCREEN? >> YES.

IT IS NOT THERE? >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: SHE WILL DO IT OVER HERE. SHE HAS GOT IT.

MAYBE. WE HAVE IT ON OUR IPADS.

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>> PERFECT. THE FIRST SLIDE SHOW THE DIFFERENT FACILITIES WE RENT OUT --

>>MAYOR HUDSON: HERE WE GO. >> OKAY.

OF COURSE, RIVER WALK CENTER INCREASED FROM $130 TO $150 RECENTLY. COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND RENT OUT THE SUNRISE ROOM, OLD CITY HALL, THE GARDEN CLUB IN MARAVILLA.

RIVER WALK HAVE THE RATES WHAT WE DO FOR A FRIDAY EVENING AND SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS. OLD CITY HALL, THE RATE STRUCTURE FOR THAT FACILITY AT THIS TIME.

AS YOU NOTICE THE DEPOSITS ARE, TO ME, VERY NOMINAL.

$200. THE GARDEN CLUB IS $150.

MARAVILLA CENTER IS $100 TO RENT THE FACILITY OUT, WHICH IS NOT THAT MUCH OR ANYTHING. BECAUSE IF THERE WAS ANY DAMAGES OR ANYTHING, $200 REALLY DOES NOT COVER.

AND TRYING TO GET THE CLIENTS TO CONFIRM -- CONFORM WITH OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS TOO. THEY SIT HERE AND SAY IF OUR CAPACITY IS 150, THEY WILL BRING 00 PEOPLE IN.

WE ARE LIKE, WE WILL KEEP YOUR DEPOSIT, THAT IS OKAY, IT IS ONLY $ 00. SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LOVE TO SEE INCREASING OUR DEPOSITS FOR FACILITIES TO TRY TO MAKE PEOPLE MORE ACCOUNTABLE FOR TAKING CARE OF THE FACILITIES ITSELF. THIS RATE SHOWS WHAT OUR CURRENT RATES ARE. AND THEN WHAT I AM PROPOSING TO INCREASE THE RATES. AND HONESTLY, IT IS NOT THAT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE EXCEPT FOR THE GARDEN CLUB IN MARAVILLA, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE THEY DO GET RENTED OUT EVERY SINGLE WEEKEND. SATURDAY AND SUNDAYS ARE PRETTY MUCH EVERY WEEKEND. WE HAVE ALL THE BUILDINGS EXCEPT FOR OLD CITY HALL RENTED OUT. THE USE OF THEM WITH THE ELECTRIC, THE AC RUNNING AND STUFF AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITY WE BIKE TO INCREASE THEM JUST A LITTLE BIT.

37 THIS IS A COMPARISON OF ALL THE OTHER ENT FEES AROUND US THROUGH THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY, VERO BEACH AND MARTIN COUNTY.

I DO -- PORT ST. LUCIE THEY RENT MID FLORIDA.

THAT IS THE ONLY FACILITY THAT THEY RENT OUR SPECIAL EVENTS AS WELL. WE NEVER INCREASED OUR RATES AND I HAVE BEEN HERE 28 YEARS. THESE RATES HAVE BEEN THE SAME FOR 28 YEAR. SO I HAVE A COMPARISON AS WELL AS TO THE DIFFERENT THINGS. -- ENTITIES AROUND.

WE DON'T CHARGE A DEPOSIT. MOST OTHER ENTITIES CHARGE A DEPOSIT FOR THEIR EVENTS IF THE ROADS AREN'T CLEANED, THEY DON'T TAKE OUT THE GARBAGE, DIFFERENT THINGS, WE CAN KEEP THEIR DEPOSIT TO HELP COMPENSATION FOR THAT.

YOU CAN SEE FOR OURS WITH THE PERMIT FEES, $50 NONPROFIT.

$100 PROFIT. IF WE HAVE LARGER EVENTS OYSTER FEST. PIRATE FEST.

ANY HISTORY LARGE EVENTS. THEY ARE PAYING $300 WITH THE BARRICADES AND ELECTRIC FEES. TOP TO ME -- FOR THEM UTILIZING ALL OF OUR GROUNDS AND THINGS, I THINK WE SHOULD INCREASE OUR EVENT FEES. SO THIS IS KIND OF WHAT I WAS KIND OF LOOKING AT. MOST PLACES DO THIS WHERE THEY HAVE THE APPLICATION FEE, THE DEPOSITS ACCORDING THE ATTENDEES. THE PERMIT FEES ACCORDING THE NUMBER OF ATTENDEES AS WELL. IF YOU WERE HAVING A SMALL EVENT, PAWS AND CLAWS THIS PAST WEEKEND, THIS IS A SMALL EVENT.

WE DON'T WANT TO GAUGE THEM AND CHARGE THEM OVER AND ABOVE WHAT THEY CAN AFFORD. OF COURSE THE ADDITIONAL FEES ALCOHOL SALES PERMIT, DUMPSTER IF THEY NEED IT.

THIS KIND OF SHOWS THE NUMBER OF FUNCTIONS WE HAD IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS RIGHT NOW A LITTLE BIT SMALL BECAUSE I DID THIS BACK IN SEPTEMBER. IN 2022, WE HAD A LOT OF EVENTS AND THINGS. I THINK AS WE GROW, WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW WITH EVENTS AS WELL.

SO THAT IS KINDS OF WHAT I AM THINKING.

THE OTHER THING THAT WAS NOT IN HERE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST IS IF THERE IS ALCOHOL AT THE RIVER WALK OR OLD CITY

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WE HAVE PARTIES WHERE FIGHTS BROKEN OUTS PAUSE THEY WILL HIRE THEIR OWN SECURITY, BUT TO ME THAT'S NOT SUFFICIENT OR ANYTHING. WE HAD FIGHTS.

WE HAD TABLES BROKEN BECAUSE OF IT AND STUFF.

I WOULD REQUIRE IF THEY ARE HAVING 100 OR MORE GUESTS THAT POLICE SHOULD BE HIRED FROM THE FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: SO THE -- THE -- THE SCREEN WHERE YOU HAVE THE -- THE RATES AND COINCIDE WITH THE NUMBER OF ATTENDEES.

I AM THINKING OF THE FARMER'S MARKET.

HOW WILL THE FARMER'S MARKET BE AFFECTED BY WHAT YOU ARE

RECOMMENDING? >> LET ME GO TO THAT ONE.

THEY ARE A NONPROFIT. SO THE FEES WILL BE A LITTLE BIT LESS FOR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL.

SOME I KNOW -- THAT IS THE OTHER ON O ONES.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: DOES THIS APPLY TO THE FARMER'S MARKET, THIS

SCREEN. >> IT MAY HAVE.

NONPROFITS PAY OF A OF THE HER PIT FEE.

IF IT SHOWS $150 230R 3500 GUESTS, $75 FOR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS. AND THE ELECTRIC FEES --

>>MAYOR HUDSON: WHAT -- I AM JUST SAYING THE FORMER'S MARKET, FOR INSTANCE. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE

COME, RIGHT? >> YES.

IT WOULDN'T BE -- I WOULD SAY LESS THAN 500 AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE -- YOU ROTATE.

B BUT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: NOT COUNTING THE VENDORS.

YESTERDAY I WAS AT THE PAWS AND CLAWS EVENT.

WELL ATTENDED BY VENDORS AND A NICE CROWD WITH -- BECAUSE THERE WERE PETS -- EVERYBODY HAD A PET TH THERE. THAT WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, RIGHT. IT SEEMED LIKE A NICE CROWD.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WERE THERE AT ANY ONE TIME.

SO I JUST WANTED TO KNOW HOW -- HOW IT IS GOING -- HOW YOU ARE

GOING TO ESTIMATE THAT. >> NOT US.

A PERSON WHO IS PERMITTING IT. AND WITH FARMER'S MARKET, THEY HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR MANY YEARS AND WE CAN, OF COURSE, KIND OF GAUGE THE ATTENDEES. AND, YOU KNOW, IT IS ALSO DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS. OFF SEASON IT IS NOT AS BUSY DURING SEASON MONTHS. THINGS LIKE THAT WILL BE THE RECURRING EVENT WILL BE A STATIONARY FEE.

IT WOULD NOT GO ADJUST IT TO THE ATTENDEES OR ANYTHING.

THESE ARE -- THESE ARE PRETTY MUCH FOR ONE-TIME EVENTS.

NOT FRIDAY FEST. NOT FARMER'S MARKET.

JAZZ MARKET. THOSE ARE ALL RECURRING EVENTS.

IT WILL BE MORE LIKE THE LUCKY DUCK RACE OR THE PAWS AND CLAWS.

THINGS ONCE A YEAR OR MAYBE THREE TIMES A YEAR.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR, TO ADD TO THAT -- IF WE COULD -- I AM THINKING WE NEED TO ADD MARINA SQUARE AS THE ADDITIONAL LOCATION. IT FEELS THAT WAY.

MAYBE NOT. >> WE HAD A FEW YEARS AGO WE TRIED TO REQUEST THAT WHERE THE LOCATION ALSO WAS A -- YOU HAD TO LOOK AT THAT FOR THE LOCATION VERSUS IF IT WAS UP ON SECOND STREET OR AT THE GAZEBO. OF COURSE, IT WILL BE A LOT

SMALLER. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: WE JUST CALL IT AN OUTDOOR PUBLIC -- CITY PUB SPACE? THINKING OF THE LEGAL SEED. YOU COULD LIKE YOU SAID THE GAZEBO OR MARINA SQUARE AND PARKS CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

>> VETERANS PARK, OF COURSE. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: YOU ARE NOT REALLY RENTING RIVER WALK CENTER, YOU ARE RENTING

SPACE. >> PIRATE FEST AND OYSTER FEST.

THEY HAVE AN EVENT. THEY HAVE TO RENT THE BUILDING BECAUSE A SMALLER AMOUNT BECAUSE THEY ARE USING THE REST ROOMS. THEY DON'T WANT TO USE PORT-A-POTTIES.

THEY WANT TO USE THE JANITOIAL. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: IN ADDITION TO OUTDOOR EVENTS, LARGELY ATTENDED FRIDAY FEST, OKAY. THAT WE WILL REQUIRE IN ADDITION TO WHATEVER RATES ESTABLISHED FOR REOCCURRING EVENTS.

ONE-TIME EVENTS WE WOULD ALSO -- DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN THE LANGUAGE THAT REQUIRES PORT-A-POTTIES.

>> YES. OVER 100 GUESTS YOU HAVE TO HAVE

SO MANY PORT-A-POTTIES. >>MAYOR HUDSON: IN THE PAST WE

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>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: ANOTHER THING ABOUT THE RATES.

WE HAVEN'T INCREASED RATES AND I AM STRUGGLING WITH IT A LITTLE BIT. I WOULD WANT TO SEE WHAT THE CITY HAS INCURRED AS FAR AS THE DEPOSIT SIDE.

TO ME IT IS CAPTURED IN THE DEPOSIT SIDE.

>> TO SPECIAL EVENTS? WE DON'T TAKE DEPOSITS.

WE DON'T HAVE AN APPLICATION FEE OR DON'T HAVE AN DEPOSIT FEE.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IN THE START UP AND CLEANHORN UP THEY DON'T DO THEIR PROPER

CLEANUP. >> YES, SIR.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: THE EVENT FEE ITSELF -- I AM NOT HERE FOR US TO MAKE MONEY, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, BUT AT THE SAME

TIME, I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- >>MAYOR HUDSON: I WANT IT TO BE

JUSTIFIED. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: I WANT IT TO BE JUSTIFIED AND COVERED.

>> AGREE WITH THAT. THE OWNING THING -- IF WE DON'T DEAL WITH A STEP THING WITH THE ATTENDEES IS JUST GO UP NOMINAL.

BECAUSE THE MAINTENANCE OF THE GROUNDS -- I SAY OLD FORT -- THE OLD LIBRARY SITE. YOU KNOW, THOSE GROUNDS HAVE TO CONSTANTLY BE RECEDED AND STUFF BECAUSE OF THE GRASS TYING.

VETERANS PARK. THE GRASS AND THE GROUNDS GET.

WE PAID FOR THE ANT KILLERS TO GO OUT AND PUT THAT DOWN PRIOR TO THE EVENT AND STUFF. SOME IT KIND OF HELPS RECOVER

SOME OF THE COST FOR THAT. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: 100%.

I WANT TO COVER THE FEES. THE MAINTENANCE COST AND ELECTRIC BILL. WE HAVE THAT DATA.

WE JUST HAVE TO COMPILE THAT TOGETHER.

AND MAKE SURE IT WORKS. USE THE HISTORY OF NUMBER OF RENTALS. NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS, AND THAT TELLS THE WHOLE STORY. EASY TO DEDUCT THE NUMBER.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YES, SIR. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I AM GOOD WITH UNDERSTANDING. LIKE WHAT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SAIDWATCH HER MAINTENANCE. DID I MARY YOU RIGHT THE ONLY TIME WE REQUIRE SECURITY IS IF ALCOHOL -- IF THEY SAY YES TO

ALCOHOL? >> FOR SPECIAL EVENTS OR

RENTALS? >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: RENTALS.

START WITH RENTALS. >> FACILITY RENTALS, WE DON'T

REQUIRE IT. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: OKAY.

THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO -- SOMETHING THAT I THINK --

>> THE ONLY PLACES THAT WE HAVE ALCOHOL ALLOWED IS AT OLD CITY HALL AND THE RIVER WALK. THE GARDEN CLUB, NO ALCOHOL ALLOWED BECAUSE IT ISES IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I APPRECIATE THAT AND FIGHTS DO BREAK OUT BOUGHT ALCOHOL. AS A COMMISSION UP HERE.

SOMETHING WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON IN THE COUNTRY NOW. KNOW, WE NEED TO LOOK AT HAVING SOME TYPE OF SECURITY THERE OR A DETAIL.

EVENT GOING ON FRIDAY NIGHT. CHIEF OF POLICE -- TO HAVE CARS CIRCLE AROUND, MAKE A PRESENCE. BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.

AND SOMETHING SHOULD HAVE SECURITY AT CERTAIN PARTIES AS I SAID I LEFT FROM OVER THERE PLANNING SOMETHING FOR MY SON.

AND IT IS GOING TO BE SECURITY THERE BECAUSE IT IS -- I JUST WANTED EVERYBODY PROTECTED. AND THERE WILL BE NO ALCOHOL.

SO IF WE -- I WILL BE IN TROUBLE.

YOU WILL SIGH ME ON NEWS THROWING EVERYBODY OUT.

I AM JUST SAYING. OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WE SIT DONE.

WE KIND OF RELY ON THE SECURITY ASPECT AS A PRECAUTION.

I AM THINKING SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO BECAUSE THE LAST THING I WANT IS A TRAGEDY AT ONE OF OUR RENTALS.

ONE OF OUR RENTALS AND WE COULD HAVE REQUIRED SECURITY AND WE DI DIDN'T.

>> THAT IS ALSO FOR OUR CAPACITY AT FORT PIERCE RIVER WALK IS 150. SOME OF THESE PARTIES THEY ARE LIVING A A BIRTHDAY PARTY FOR A DJ OR SOMETHING AND CHARGING ADMISSION FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN. THEY ARE HAVING 300, 350 PEOPLE.

IF THEY HAVE A REGULAR OFFICER AND THEY SEE, HEY, THERE ARE IS

WAY MORE THAN 150 PEOPLE. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: SHUT IT

DOWN. >> NOT ALLOWING THEM TO COME IN.

THE SECURITY THEY ARE HIRING, THEY DON'T CARE.

THEY ARE MAKING MONEY. >>MAYOR HUDSON: JESS.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: I HEAR A COUPLE OF THINGS.

NUMBER ONE, SPA PROPOSAL FOR INCREASE OF COST OF FEES OF

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I THINK THE COMMENT WHAT WE DON'T KNOW AND THE BROKEN TABLES. BROKE REASON STUFF.

HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. EVEN NOT MALICIOUS.

THINGS BREAK AND PEOPLE BREAK IT.

WILL HELP ALIGN A LITTLE BIT MORE AND TELL THE STORY BETTER AND BRINGING US UP TO SPEED. NOT TO THE POINT WE ARE HERE TO MAKE MONEY. STAFF COSTS AND BREAKS EVERY YEAR. TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE WE ENHANCE SOME OF OUR OFFERINGS AT SOME OF THESE FACILITIES.

AUDIO, VISUAL CAPABILITIES, ETC. ALL THAT STUFF NEEDS TO BE EVALUATED AS WE GROW INTO A TECHNOLOGICAL REAR THAT WE MAY NEED TO ADD THOSE TYPES OF CAPABILITIES AND FOR BUSINESSES NEEDING A LARGER AREA TO DO A PRESENTATION.

AND WE HAVE WRITTEN AT THAT MAY ATTRACT PEOPLE BESIDES THE WEEKEND AND WEDDING RECEPTIONS, ETC.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND ANY SURPLUS MONIES WE DERIVE, I WILL BE IN FAVOR OF USING THOSE TYPES OF FUNDS TO REINVEST IN THESE BUILDINGS AND BRINGING THEM UP TO CODE EVEN MORE WHEN IT COMES TO TECHNOLOGY AND CAPABILITIES. I GOT TO GO WITH COMMISSIONER GAINES ON THIS ONE TOO. WE -- THESE FEES, I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE POLICE DETAIL LOOKS LIKE.

YOU WILL REQUIRE THEM TO HIRE THAT.

WE HAVE BEEN LUCKY. AND SOME OF THIS STUFF DOESN'T HAPPEN NECESSARILY IN THE PARTY. IT IS THE PARKING LOT OR THE ASSEMBLY WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT.

WE NEED TO TAKE LESSONS LEARNED WITH INCIDENTS WITH DETAILS THERE WORKING THE ACTUAL SURFACE SLIDE.

AND NET I WOULD WANT THE CITY TO BE IN A FAVORITE POSITION WE COULD FROM A LIABLE STANDPOINT TO PROVIDE THAT NUMBER THAT WE NEED. WE NEED TO HAVE THAT THERE.

I FEEL BETTER FOR OUR CITIZENS. AND FACT NEAR THE COSTS.

AND CALL FOR ADDITIONAL RESOURCES WHEN IT COMES TO SURFACE AREA. 20 YEARS IS A LONG TIME.

AND I THINK WE GET INTO THE WEEDS OF THIS AND FIGURE IT OUT AND HAVE SOME MARGINAL INCREASE. THANK YOU.

>> I DO LIKE YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE OTHER FACILITIES.

BECAUSE RIVERWALK IS THE ONLY FACILITY THAT HAS WI-FI.

SO WHENEVER THERE IS MEETINGS OR ANYTHING THAT PEOPLE WANT TO GO TO OLD CITY HALL THEY CAN'T BECAUSE NO WI-FI, NO AUDIO STUFF. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT AT OLD

CITY HALL. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: EVEN WHEN I DO MEETINGS AT THE GARDEN CLUB.

A PROBLEM AV WISE FOR BUSINESSES THAT NEED TO GET TOGETHER FOR A SMALL RETREAT. WHERE I SEE ADDITIONAL FUNDS, SURPLUS FUNDS THAT AS A RESULT REINVESTED IN OUR PROPERTY.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER BRODERICK.

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: THE SECURITY ISSUE.

I AM COMPLETELY ON BOARD. I WON'T REPEAT THE COMMENTS OF EVERYONE ELSE. THRESHOLD.

IF YOU HAVE X NUMBER OF FOLKS -- >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: NEEDS TO

BE ON US. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: HIRE THEM FROM THE CONTRACT DEPARTMENT TO COME IN AND SERVICE THAT. THE ONUS WILL WILL BE ON US WITH RECOMMENDATIONS, OF COURSE, TO SET THAT THRESHOLD TO SAY X NUMBER OF FOLKS. I FIND YOUR COMMENT INTERESTING.

RENT FACILITY. YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF FIRE CODE AND IN VIOLATION OF THE CONTRACT.

IN VIOLATION OF THIS SO THE DEPOSIT END OF THIS.

IT IS A DEPOSIT. IN THEORY, IT IS REFUNDABLE.

IF WE ELEVATE THE DEPOSIT TO A REASONABLY.

I CAN'T AMOUNT, IT IS A DETERRENT FROM PEOPLE THINKING THAT THEY CAN PLAY THE SYSTEM, RENT THE PLACE.

AND WHAT DO WE DO COME MONDAY MORNING AND 400 PEOPLE HERE.

NOTHING WE CAN DO. WITH SECURITY, COMMISSIONER JVENLD JOBBEN JOR JOHNSON.

WE NEED TO AIR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION.

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NOT TRYING TO BE OFFENSIVE. THEY ARE COLLECTING MONEY.

HAVING SAID THAT, MY OTHER QUESTION.

THE PERFECT EXAMPLE. WE HAVE THE OYSTER FESTIVAL.

CITY OF FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS DOWN THERE TO INSTALL BARRICADES AND CORDON OFF AREAS.

ALL THE COORDINATION THEY NEED TO DO.

IS THAT COST INCLUDED IN THEIR RENTAL FEE OF IT THE RIVER WALK

CENTER? >> NO, SIR.

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: SEPARATE.

>> BARRICADES, A $25 FEE. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: $25.

WE DISPATCH A CREW WITH A TRUCK AND BARRICADES FOR THREE HOURS

TO LEAVE -- HOW MANY, MIKE? >> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, WE DO NOT SET UP FOR SPECIAL EVENTS.

WE PROVIDE THE BARRICADES FOR THEM AND IT IS THEIR

RESPONSIBILITY TO PLACE THEM. >> WE ARE NOT DEDICATED SET-UP.

>> OUR STAFF COST IS NOWHERE CHOFRD IN THE FEE FOR THE

BARRICADES. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: THE POINT I AM TRYING TO MAKE. COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON -- I AM NOT LOOKING TO MAKE MONEY. ODDLY ENOUGH.

I AM GOING WITH THE FLOW SAYING WE ARE NOT LOOKING TO GENERATE A PROFIT ON THIS, BUT THOSE HARD PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT BUDGET.

WE DON'T GOT TO BREAK IT DOWN. WE NEED TO COVER THAT.

THE EVENT HOST THAT IS THERE TO MAKE MONEY.

I DON'T THINK IT IS REASONABLE THAT THE CITIZENS OF FORT PIERCE UNDERWRITE THAT. FOR PROFIT OR PRIVATE PROPERTY.

MAIN STREET. WE CLOSE DOWN SECOND STREET FOR PARTIES REGULARLY. STREET PARTY.

I WOULD SEE RUN THROUGH DOWN. AND SEE GUYS DROPPING OFF BARRICADES. BREAKING DOWN BARRICADES.

I WANT THOSE COSTS ADDRESSED. AND I WANT TO RECAPTURE THOSE COSTS AT THE CHARGE TO THE ORGANIZATION THAT IS PUTTING ON THE EVENT. COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON.

EXPANDING ON THE SUGGESTION TO COVER THE OVERHEAD OF THE THE FACILITY. WE NEED DO COVER THE OVERHEADS OF THE ANCILLARY ACTIVITIES AS WELL.

CAN WE DO AN ANALYSIS TO BRING BACK TO THE COMMISSION AND SAID THIS IS REALISTICALLY WHAT THE ITEMS WILL COST EVERY TIME YOU HAVE AN EVENT. I WOULD PREFER TO SEE THAT $250 TO PICK UP BARRICADES AND I WOULD RATHER SEE THAT MONEY INVESTED IN MAINTAINING THE BEACHES OR PICKING UP.

ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS A COMPLETE BENEFIT TO THE CITIZENRY OF THE CITY. NOT TO THE THAT SPECIAL EVENT OPERATOR. THIRDLY IS LIABILITY.

LIABILITY IS LITIGIOUS. ARE THEY REQUIRED TO NAME THE CITY FOR INSURED. IS THERE A RANGE OR THEY HAVE TO HAVE $1 MILLION OR $2 MILLION IN LIABILITY INSURANCE.

>> TWO DIFFERENT ONES. IF THEY HAVE ALCOHOL LIABILITY, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT.

I THINK IT IS A MILLION FOR AN EVENT.

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: ANY EVENT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE LIMITS ARE ON THEIR INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS ARE, AND HOW THAT MECHANISM KIND OF WORKS.

THEY GOT TO PRESENT THE CERTIFICATE FROM THEIR CARRIER.

ADDITIONAL INSURANCE. DATE SPECIFIC.

>> WHEN WE APPROVE OUR PERMIT, WE HAVE TO HAVE THOSE.

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: AS PART OF YOUR APPLICATION PROCESS. I WILL DIAL BACK IN.

COSTS, COSTS, COSTS. NOT REASONABLE FOR TAXPAYERS TO UNDERWRITE A COMMISSION ENTERPRISE, IT IS JUST NOT.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: MADAM CHAIR.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: GO AHEAD. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I UNDERSTAND FROM OUR COLLEAGUE THAT WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE A PROFIT. I UNDERSTAND.

AND I KNOW WE NEED TO COVER COSTS; HOWEVER, SOME OF THESE LOCATIONS ARE JEWELS IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, AND PEOPLE ARE COMING OUTSIDE OF FORT PIERCE TO RENT SOME OF THOSE LOCATIONS TO BE CLOSE -- CLOSE TO THE RIVERWALK.

I UNDERSTAND THE PARTY, $150 PEOPLE AND 300 TRYING TO GET IN.

ANOTHER 200 ON THE OUTSIDE. LOOKING AT THE WATER.

I GOT TO UNDERSTAND THAT. WHICH NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL -- VERY CAREFUL. AND NEED -- HEY, THERE ARE IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO. NOW MAKING A PROFIT, AS LONG AS THE PROPHET, WHATEVER WE MADE IS GOING BACK INTO THOSE BUILDINGS, THOSE GROUNDS TO UPGRADE -- TO UPGRADE THOSE FACILITIES, I AM

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SOUND SYSTEM EVERYWHERE. ACS EVERYWHERE.

-- TO KEEP THE GRASSES GREEN. WHATEVER THAT IS, THE MONEY GOES BACK INTO THOSE FACILITIES FOR THE NEXT RENTER, I AM GOOD WITH.

BUT TO GO ALONG BE WITH COMMISSIONER JOHNSON -- JEREMIAH JOHNSON, JUST TO MAKE MONEY TO PUT SOMEWHERE ELSE? OKAY, I GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT. BUT IF WE ARE GOING TO SELL THESE PROPERTIES AND WE MAKE SOME MONEY AND PUT IT BACK INTO THE PROPERTIES SO THE NEXT PERSON THAT COMES, YOU KNOW, IS A BETTER VENUE FOR THE FUTURE WHEN WE ARE NOT SITTING HERE? I AM ALL FOR THAT. IN 20 YEARS, NOT TO RAISE ANYTHING FOR 20 YEARS, I GUESS WE ARE THE ONLY ONES DOING THAT AROUND HERE. BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE. SO I UNDERSTAND.

I AGREE WITH EVERYBODY. WHATEVER THE MAINTENANCE AND COSTS, WE GOT TO COVER THAT, POINT-BLANK.

IT IS WHAT IT IS. IF WE MAKE SOME MONEY, I AM GOOD WITH THAT ALSO. IF THAT MONEY GOES BACK INTO UPGRADING THE FACILITIES OR RESTORING THE FACILITIES.

SO IF WE RENT SOMETHING, MADAM MAYOR, WE DON'T HAVE A BROKEN TABLE OR A WOBBLY TABLE OR SOMETHING.

WE ARE GIVING WHOEVER IS RENTING OUR FACILITIES, YOU KNOW, A -- AN A-PLUS RENTAL EXPERIENCE EXPERIENCE.

THAT IS ALL I AM SAYING. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: ON I AM FORWARD WITH COMMISSIONER GAINES.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: I HAVE THREE OR FOUR THINGS I WROTE DOWN WHEN I HEARD THE COMMENTS AND PRESENTATION IN ADDITION TO WHAT I SAID. THE FEES SPECIFICALLY I AM OKAY WITH THAT IN UNDERSTANDING. EVENTS THAT ARE CITY-SPONSORED THEY ARE ON A DIFFERENT PLATEAU. DIFFERENT WITH STAFFING, BARRICADES AND ALL THAT STUFF. I WANT THAT OUT THERE AND CLEAR SECURITY -- I OFFICIATED WEDDINGS OVER THE YEARS.

150 PEOPLE AT THE WEDDING, HONESTLY, I DON'T THINK I NEED TO HIRE A POLICE OFFICER TO HAVE MY DAUGHTER'S WE HADDING THERE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GET AROUND THAT.

THAT IS JUST MY INITIAL TAKE BECAUSE I AM THINKING OF A

BIRTHDAY PARTY, THE RIVER WALK. >> THAT IS THE THING.

WE WENT THE BACK ROOM FOR BABY SHOWERS.

SOMETIMES THEY SIT THERE AND HAVE MIMOSA.

I AM NOT SAYING A SMALL BABY SHOWER WITH 40 PEOPLE THEY NEED TO HIRE SECURITY. I DO AGREE -- ESPECIALLY WITH BIRTHDAY PARTIES, T THE QUINCERERAS AND THOSE TYPE OF PARTIES, ALCOHOL FOR 15-YEAR-OLDS, 16-YEAR-OLD KIDS, AN OFFICER SHOULD BE THERE. I AGREE WITH WEDDINGS.

USUALLY THEY ARE ALL CALM. IT IS THE BIRTHDAY PARTIES IS

OUR BIGGEST -- >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: EVEN WITH A WEDDING, THERE ARE DRINKS.

>> I AM SAYING NOT ANY PROBLEMS. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: LEGALLY -- SHE PROBABLY HAS A WHOLE TABLE OF COMMENTS AS MISS HEDGES CAN PRODUCE. HERE IS WHAT I AM SAYING.

SOME ARE GOING TO GET ROWDY. SOME ARE NOT.

HOW DO WE JUDGE THAT. BECAUSE I AM JUST -- IF IT IS A BEAUTIFUL OUTDOOR -- EVERYBODY. AND YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, DRESS AND THERE IS NO DRINKS. BUT WE HAVE THIS THRESHOLD -- A MAGIC LINE. BECAUSE GOVERNMENT SPEAKS BLACK AND WHITE. MAGIC LINE.

IF YOU CROSS IT, BOOM. I DON'T KNOW IF I WILL CROSS IT

OR NOT. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: PUTS A LOT OF PRESSURE WITH YOU.

>> WITH THESE BIRTHDAY PARTIES ARE --I I HAVE SHOWN MIKE'S FLYERS. OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

SHARE, SHARE, SHARE. COME, COME, COME.

YOU GET 00 PEOPLE. OH, JUST MY BIRTHDAY PARTY.

I AM HAVING 75 PEOPLE THERE. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, I CAN -- I CAN CLARIFY MY POINT.

I AGREE WITH YOU WHOLE PARTIEDLY ON A WEDDING.

UNLESS THE FAMILIES ARE FIGHTING FOR THE WEDDING.

UNLESS THEY ARE ALREADY FIGHTING, NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN YOU WILL NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE WEDDING.

YOU DON'T WANT SECURITY AT YOUR WEDDING.

HOW I LOOK AT IT, I WOULD LEAVE WEDDINGS UP TO THE PARTICULAR PERSON WHO RENT. SOMEBODY MAY SAY I FEEL SAFE TO HAVE SOMEBODY HERE. I DON'T KNOW.

BUT MY CONCERN ARE THESE PARTIES.

THESE PARTIES. >> YOU DON'T KNOW WHO IS COMING.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: WHAT KIND OF PARTY.

WE CAN BE AS SPECIFIC -- WE CAN MAKE OURSELVES CRAZY GETTING

DOWN IN THE DETAILS. >> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER

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THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO AND THEY SIGN THE CONTRACT THEY HAVE THE FACILITY RESERVED AND BEHIND THE SCENES, WHEN OTHER THINGS ARE GOING ON. I KNOW YOU HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS AS WELL, BUT WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK TODAY AND THANK YOU ALL ON THAT. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TAKE YOUR ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, WORK WITH MICHELLE, WORK WITH THE PD.

HONE IN ON SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS TODAY AND COME BACK TO YOU IN ANOTHER CONFERENCE AGENDA TO DISCUSS IN MORE DETAIL

WHAT IS BROUGHT UP TODAY. >>MAYOR HUDSON: YOU HAVE MORE

QUESTIONS? >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: THE OTHER ONE IS ABOUT THE -- ANY APPLICANT OR INDIVIDUAL THAT WANTS TO HOLD AN EVENT AND THEN THEY ARE COLLECTING REVENUE.

I STRUGGLE WITH THAT. I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU ALL.

I STRUGGLE USING PUBLIC PROPERTY FOR -- FOR SOMEONE TO GARNER REVENUE FROM IT. I STRUGGLE WITH THAT.

>> WHAT EVENTS? >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: RENTING AN EVENT. CHARGING $50 A TICKETS.

>> WE DON'T ALLOW THAT ON CITY PROPERTY.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: ONE THING LIKE IF YOU HAVE THE SIGHTS AND SOUNDS PARADE, A $15 OR $20 DONATION BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO SOME CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION.

>> WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO FENCE OFF WHERE THEY CHARGE ADMISSION.

ALL OF THAT HAS TO GO OVER TO CAUSEWAY COVE MARINA OR

SOMEWHERE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: BUT YOU HAVE FOR-PROFIT RENTING THE WATERFRONT LIKE THE OYSTER FEST

AND PIRATE FEST. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: DO

THEY CHARGE FOR THE ENTRY? >> PIRATE FEST A CAN DONATION FOR THE FOOD BANK. THEY PUT BINS OUT THERE FOR THAT. IF YOU WANT, YOU CAN DO A BUCK.

IT IS NOT MANDATORY, BUT THEY TRY TO GET DONATIONS FOR FOOD

AND STUFF. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: NONPROFITS DO IT BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING IT SPECIFICALLY FOR A CAUSE, WHICH MAKES SENSE. LIKE ON A PAUSE.

>> WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO EVENTS LIKE 5KS OR SOMETHING BUT EVEN THERE, THEY CHARGE THEIR FEE OFFSITE AND STUFF TO BE PART OF THE 5K AND THINGS.

OTHER THAN THAT, WE DON'T CHARGE ADMISSION FOR ANYTHING.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: NOT US.

>> WE DON'T PERMIT FOR ORGANIZATIONS TO DO THAT.

SUCH AS IN THE RIVER WALK. COMING UP THE ORCHID SHOW.

THEY ARE A NONPROFIT AND CHARGE $4 ADMISSION TO COME IN AND WALK THROUGH THE ORCHID SHOW. BUT, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN THAT, WE DON'T CHARGE -- THERE IS NO EVENTS THAT HAVE ADMISSION FEES.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: THE OTHER PART IS THE PD.

THEY ARE HERE TODAY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE COVERED ON THE BASIS OF THE -- OF THE OFF-DUTY DETAIL, WHAT THOSE CHARGES ARE. THAT THEY ARE VERY CLEAR TO ANY

EVENT ORGANIZERSES. >> SURE THE SAME FEES AS THE SPECIAL EVENT. WHEN THEY HAVE ALCOHOL AT AN EVENT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HIRE THE POLICE AS WELL.

SO I AM SURE THE SAME FEES. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE READY TO SPEAK ON THAT.

THAT IS OKAY. PART OF THIS CONVERSATION, MR. REALS. PART OF THIS ENTIRE APOOL IN SIS

OF HOW WE LAY IT ALL OUT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: DO WE MANAGE -- LIKE WHEN 2ND STREET IS CLOSED OFF FOR THE DIFFERENT FESTIVALS THEY HAVE. IS THIS UNDER THE CITY'S SPECIAL EVENTS? OKAY, SO THAT --

>> WE WORK WITH THE SERGEANT REAL AS WELL WITH ALL EVENTS

OUTDOORS. >>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY.

AND SOME OF -- I WILL JUST SAY SOME OF THESE EVENTS LIKE FRIDAY FEST AND I THINK THE FARMER'S MARKET AND CRAFT MARKET.

SOME OF THEM ARE GOOD FOR THE CITY.

THEY ARE GOOD FOR THE CITY. THEY BRING PEOPLE DOWNTOWN AND I DON'T WANT TO BE PUNISHING TO THEM.

I KNOW I HEAR COMPLAINTS OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY TRY TO RENT IT T THEFINN CENTER BECAUSE PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT IT IS REALLY EXPENSIVE.

>> I DON'T WANT TO GO ASTRO

ASTRONOMICAL. >>MAYOR HUDSON: BELIEVE ME, NONE OF US WANT TO HEAR IT EITHER. BECAUSE WE WILL.

WE WANT IT TO BE -- TO BE AFFORDABLE FOR PEOPLE, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO BE ABLE TO COVER OUR COSTS.

I THINK -- IT IS WHAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SAY TO PEOPLE.

WE ARE DOING THIS BECAUSE PRICES HAVE INCREASED FOR ALL KINDS OF SUPPLIES, FOR PERSONNEL, FOR WHAT WE ARE DOING.

AND THE UPKEEP AND THE MAINTENANCE.

WE ARE FORCED TO DO THIS TO COVER OUR COSTS.

THAT IS THE WAY I FEEL. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: WE

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YOU WERE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT ONE OF THE PARTIES.

>> HAVING A MOMENT. WHICH ONE?

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: TALKING OF THE PARTIES.

I WANTED TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY.

YOU SAID FOR EXAMPLE. I THINK YOU WERE GOING TO SHARE

WITH ME A PARTY -- >> THAT HE ATTENDED?

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I PROBABLY DID.

I JUST -- I HAVE ATTENDED -- I HAVE ATTENDED SOME PARTIES WHERE -- AND I AM GOING TO SAY PRIOR TO BEING A COMMISSIONER THAT I

KNEW WAS MORE THAN 150 PEOPLE. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: SURE.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: MORE THAN 150 PEOPLE IN THE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE. THE PROBLEMS WE RUN INTO WHEN WE RENT THESE FACILITIES. IT IS NOT THE GUEST THAT ARE INSIDE THE BUILDING. IT IS THE GUESTS THAT AS YOU SAID WHO HAVE SEEN THE SOCIAL MEDIA POST AND KNOW THERE IS A PARTY GOING ON AND TAKE IT AMONGST THEMSELVES TO COME OUTSIDE AND HAVE THEIR OWN PARTY OR THEIR OWN EVENT OUTSIDE AND THAT'S WHERE I AM CONCERNED ABOUT WHEN I SAY ABOUT THE OFFICERS AND EVERYTHING TO PROTECT THE CITY BECAUSE AS YOU SAID, IT'S MY BIRTHDAY. I WANTS 100 PEOPLE AT MY BIRTHDAY. BUT YOU INVITED 1 MOUNTAIN PEOPLE TO COME -- 100 PEOPLE TO COME TO YOUR BIRTHDAY.

THOSE 100 PEOPLE HAVE INVITED A PERSON THEMSELVES.

LET 'GO TO SO AND SO'S BIRTHDAY AND IT GOES AROUND.

I AM TRYING TO PREVENT A TRAGEDY OR WHATEVER CAN HAPPEN COMING FORWARD WHEN YOU SAY, OKAY, YOU KNOW OFFICERS ARE GOING TO WILL BE FROM. YOU KNOW OFFICERS WILL BE IN THE PARKING LOT. YOU KNOW OFFICERS WILL BE THERE.

NINE OUT OF TEN TIMES, THEY WILL NOT WANT TO PARTY IN A PARKING LOT IF THE OFFICER IS STANDING THERE LOOKING AT THEM.

I AM JUST BEING HONEST YOU CAN. I UNDERSTAND THAT -- I UNDER STAND THE WAY -- AND I HAVE BEEN SIT SOMETHING HERE THINKING.

NEVER SEEN A SECURITY GUARD AT A WEDDING.

I HAVE SITTING HERE THINKING. BUT.

YOU KNOW, EVEN AT -- WE GOT TO BE CAREFUL.

BECAUSE, YOU NKNOW AFTER YOU DO YOUR PART AND YOU SAY CONGRATULATIONS MR. AND MRS. AND THE PARTIES ON, THE ALCOHOL STARTS FLOWING. STUFF HAPPENS.

I DON'T WANT TO EXCLUDE WEDDINGS, BECAUSE IF ALCOHOL IS THERE, YOU KNOW, ALCOHOL CAN POUR -- IS.

>> DEFINITELY WITH WEDDINGS, BABY SHOWER.

THOSE ARE BY INVITATION. USUALLY YOU HAVE A SEATING

CHART. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I AGREE.

>> BIRTHDAYS AND ALL ARE FREE-FOR-ALLS.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YOU HAVE THE EXPERIENCE.

SHE KNOWS -- I MEAN, SHE KNOWS BETTER THAN WE DO PROBABLY.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: ALL I AM SAYING, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

IT'S HAPPENING. AND IF YOU -- IF YOU SEE A PARTY YOU ARE LIKE WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON ON HERE.

>> AS SOME OF YOU MIGHT KNOW, MY SON IS A POLICE OFFICER WITH PORT ST. LUCIE. HE -- THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE POLICE AT EVERY SINGLE EVENT THAT THERE IS ALCOHOL AND I MEAN, HE HAS COME HOME AND TOLD ME STORIES WITH QUINCERERAS KIDS ARE THROWING STUFF ON THE CEILING AND THERE ARE EVEN THREE, FOUR POLICE OFFICERS THERE AND STUFF.

SOME OF THEM GET REALLY ROWDY. LUCKILY WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT.

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: ONE FINAL COMMENT.

I HAVE BEEN TO SEVERAL BOSTON IRISH WEDDINGS WHERE THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT OF SECURITY THERE.

[LAUGHTER] >>MAYOR HUDSON: SECURITY.

>> ALL RIGHTY. DO YOU HAVE OUR IDEAS, MR.

REALS. >> MADAM MAYOR, YES, MA'AM.

I THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. WE HAVE A LOT TO GO BACK AND WORK ON. I BELIEVE WHENEVER WE RETURN, WE WILL HAVE GOOD DATA THAT INCARP RATES ALL YOUR CONCERNS.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: A GOOD EDUCATION FOR US WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO AND

[d. Discussion of Short-Term and Vacation Rental Registration]

THANK YOU. >>> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE DISCUSSION OF SHORT-TERM AND VACATION RENTAL

REGISTRATIONS. >>MAYOR HUDSON: MR. REALS.

>> MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, COMMISSIONER GAINES REQUESTED THIS ITEM TO BE ON FOR DISCUSSION TODAY.

WITH US IS PEGGY ARRAIZ TO FILL IN FOR.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: MISS COX LEFT WITH YOU THIS.

>> I THOUGHT LINDA WAS GOING TO BE DOING THIS AND SHE WENT AWAY.

>> MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.

THIS ITEM CAME UP AFTER SHE WENT ON VACATION.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: SHE DIDN'T GET OUT OF TOWN FOR THIS.

>> YES, MA'AM. SHE HAS NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY

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OCCUR. >>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHTY.

COMMISSIONER GAINES, YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING BEFORE WE START.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I CAN. I HAD A LENGTHY CONVERSATION WITH MR. MIMMS. WE THREW SOME IDEAS BACK AND FORTH IN OUR ONE ON ONES. I WANTED US TO LOOK AT IT ONE LAST TIME AND -- AS AN ATTORNEY BY TRADE, I ALWAYS TRIED TO SEE IF WE CAN AVOID ANY AND ALL POSSIBLE LIMITATIONS.

NOT SAYING WE RUN -- OR RUN FROM IT OR FACE IT BUT ANY TYPE OF WAY WE CAN STOP POTENTIAL LITIGATION FROM COME GOING IT COMES. AND TRY TO WORK WITH OUR RESIDENTS WITH THIS ISSUE TO SEE IF WE CAN COME TO SOME TYPE OF SOLUTION SO EVERYBODY IS HAPPY AND WE WILL NEVER HAVE TO SEE THE -- THE DISCUSSION OF SMART-TERM RENTALS IN THE AGENDA. I WANTED TO BRING IT UP AND DISCUSS WHAT MYSELF AND CITY MANAGER TALKED ABOUT.

I DON'T KNOW IF HE GAVE YOU THE DETAILS OR NO.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: MISS ARRAIZ. GOOD MORNING, MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. WHEN I SAW THE AGENDA ITEM AND KNEW I WOULD SIT HERE. I WANT TO SHARE ONE THING OF HOW CODE ENFORCEMENT IS DOING. WE STARTED THIS FROG SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND RAN THROUGH TROUBLE WITH THE SOFTWARE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. I DO WANT TO LET THE COMMISSION KNOW IT IS WORKING AND WORKING BEAUTIFULLY.

THE WAY WE WANT IT TO BE. THE SYSTEM THAT LINDA WORKED HARD TOWARD KEEP IT IN PLACE. WE HAVE THE SOFTWARE AND IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE INFORMATION, BUT THE REGISTRATION PROGRAM THROUGH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND IT IS WORKING WELL. I WANTED TO SHARE A NUMBER WITH YOU. WE REALLY STARTED OUR ENFORCEMENT WITH THE NEW PROGRAM IN FEBRUARY.

OKAY. SO WE HAVE A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME. WE HAVE ISSUED 152 NOTICES OF VIOLATION. VAST -- SKRAS MAJORITY.

LIKE 150 OF THOSE 152 WERE FOR NO REGISTRATION.

WE HAVE A 90% COMPLIANCE RATE. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: WOW,

IMPRESSIVE. >> OF THOSE 1R 52, I STILL ONLY HAVE 15 ACTIVE CASES. WE HAD SKWED EWELL A HALF DOZEN ON A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HEARING AND WE HAD ONE ACTUALLY GO TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE. WE HAVE MORE COMING.

I DO WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. WE DO -- WE HAVE GIVEN TIME AND TIME AND OKAY, YOU ARE WORKING ON IT.

YOU HAVE YOUR APPLICATION IN. WE GRANT THOSE EXTENSIONS AND WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS TO SO THEY CAN GET COMPLIED.

WE HAVE A HANDFUL NOW GOING IN FRONT OF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE AND WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

WE NOW ACTUALLY ARE STARTING TO EXPAND BEYOND JUST THE REGISTRATION. WE ARE STARTING TO ADDRESS THINGS LIKE PARKING AND VEHICLES AND SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ISSUES. BECAUSE AT FIRST, YOU KNOW, WE COULDN'T DO IT ALL AND FOCUSED ON THE REGISTRATION AND GETTING TO THE POINT TO EXPAND OUR REINFORCEMENT AREA.

WE ARE AT 9890% COMPLIANCE WHICH IS FABULOUS FROM MY POINT OF V VIEW.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YOU AR GETTING COMPLAINTS FROM NEIGHBORS OF

ACTIVITY AT SHORT-TERM RENTALS. >> WE ARE.

NOT EXTENSIVE. THREE OR FOUR PROPERTIES THAT WE GET THE COMPLAINTS ON. WE HAVE OUR FIRST SECOND VIOLATION GOING IN FRONT OF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE VERY SHORTLY WHERE IT IS THEIR SECOND TIME AROUND.

THREE AND 12 MONTHS AND THEY CAN USE THEIR REGISTRATION IS HOW IT IS SET UP LET ME TELL YOU. WE PUT IN THE NOTICE AND NOTICED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER. VERY CONCERNED THIS IS HIS SECOND ONE. WHAT HAPPENS.

I SAID DON'T LET A THIRD ONE HAPPEN.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: TO ME, THERE WAS A TIME PERIOD WHERE PEOPLE WERE SAYING THAT THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO MAKE THE COMPLAINT OR THAT IT WASN'T BEING ACTED ON THAT THEY COULDN'T FIND THE NUMBER SO I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT RECENTLY.

I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM PEOPLE I AM ASSUMING THEY KNOW THE RIGHT PLACE TO CALL AND HOW TO MAKE THE COMPLAINT.

>> YES. IT IS A WEB SITE AND IT IS A HOT LINE WE HAVE GOTTEN A NOTICE IN THE PAST THAT IT HAS GONE DOWN.

IF A WEB SITE GOES DOWN. FIXED WITHIN 24 HOURS.

IT IS NOT PERFECT. IT HAS CRASHED AND SO HAVE OTHER

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WEB SITES. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: IF IT IS A DIRE EMERGENCY, WE WILL CALL 911.

WE ARE NOT GOING -- >> CORRECT.

I SHARED THAT MULTIPLE TIMES. >> IF YOU WERE CALLING ON YOUR NEIGHBOR, CALL THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL.

IF NOT, CALL 911 REGARDLESS OF WHO IS IN THE BUILDING.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: I WANT TO HEAR THIS CONVERSATION PART. OUT OF THE 15 THAT YOU GOT, HOW MANY OF THOSE FOLKS DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS A REGISTRATION.

THE FOLKS I TALK TO DIDN'T KNOW THEY HAD TO DO IT.

THEY GO TO AIRBNB.COM AND PUT THEIR ADDRESS, TYPE THEIR ADDRESS IN. BOOM, SHIP IT OUT AND ON THE WEB. COME SEE ME AT MY HOUSE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THE CITY FINDS THEM AND SAYS -- JESHZ INJURIES FOLKS ARE LIKE I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO REGISTER AND FURTHER IT ON

THE KEN SITE. >> I EXPECT TELL YOU HOW MANY HAVE THAT VERSUS HOW MANY PEOPLE THOUGHTS THEY COULD GET AWAY WITH IT, I DON'T KNOW. I CAN TELL YOU WE HAVE THREE PAGES. THREE, FOUR AND A HALF OF OCEAN VILLAGE. SO WE REALLY HAVE BEEN ADDRESSING THE OCEAN VILLAGE. HOW MANY WILL NEVER FINDS ME.

I SHOWED NEW PRESIDENT PAST. THEY MATCHED THE MARBLE IN PRESIDENT BATHROOM FLOOR TO AN AD AND TRACK IT DOWN.

HOW MANY DIFFERENT KNOW VERSUS, THEY WILL NEVER FIND ME.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: OR I WILL WAIT UNTIL THEY FIND ME.

>> I AM VERY EXCITED TO THE FACT WE ISSUED 152 NOTICES AND ONLY 15 ACTIVE. I THINK THAT IS FABULOUS.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I AM NOT HERE TO KNOCK THE REGISTRATION PART, BUT I AM TALKING ABOUT THESE GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE WHO HAVE SPENT THROUGHOUT SPECIAL CONDITION --

>>MAYOR HUDSON: SPECIAL USE. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON:

SPECIAL REZONING PROCESS. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: RECORD REZONING PROCESS AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY MANAGER AND I TALKED ABOUT. OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

WE KNOW ONE IS MAKE A LOT OF NOISE.

OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS, HOW MANY ARE ON YOUR LIST.

HOW MANY -- AS YOU KNOW. WHAT MAN AND MR. MIMMS TALKED ABOUT. IS THERE SOME TYPE OF WAY THAT JUST THOSE -- I THINK HE SAID 15 TO 20 PEOPLE WENT THROUGH THIS SPECIAL -- THIS SPECIAL THING. COULD WE HAVE LOOK AT SOME TYPE OF WAY TO USE THEIR TIME GOING THROUGH THAT THROUGH THAT PROCESS TO QUALIFY FOR THE ELECTION.

SOME OF THOSE WON'T BE IN FRONT OF THE MAGISTRATE OR BE IN THE PROBLEMS ALL THE TIME AND WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH -- ALL OF THEM DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

A WAY TO HELP THEM OUT. HELP THE REGISTRATION PROCESS GO SMOOTHER AND EVERYTHING SQUASHED SO TO SPEAK TO MOVE ON FROM THIS. THAT IS WHERE I AM COMING FROM.

>> TWO ISSUES HERE. WHEN THE ORDINANCE WAS DRAFTED, IT WAS VERY SPECIFIC THAT IT DID NOT CARRY OVER TO THOSE WHO HAVE THE PROCESS. THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE HAD TWO MAILINGS. EVEN IF YOU HAVE DONE THAT BEFORE, YOU HAVE TO DO THE NEW DEMONSTRATION AND WE GRANTED A LOT OF PIPES TO DO THAT. OF THIS PILE, I AM AWARE OF ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS ESSENTIALLY FILED A PROTEST AGAINST THAT.

NUMBER TWO -- TWO THINGS. UNLIKE A CONDITIONAL USE.

A CONDITIONAL USE RUNS WITH THE LAND.

IF I GOT A CONDITIONAL USE TO RUN A DOGGY DAY-CARE CENTER AND I SELL IT, THE PERSON I SELL IT TOO.

IT RUNS WITH THE LAND. THESE REGISTRATION PROCESSES DOES NOT ATTACH TO THE PROPERTY. IT ATTACHES TO THE APPLICANT.

SO IF I -- IF I GO AND SELL. I HAVE A SHORT-TERM VACATION RENTAL AND I SELL IT. WHOEVER BUYS IF AGAIN, IF I CHOOSE WITH THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL, THEY WILL HAVE TO GET PERMIT IN THEIR NAME. THIS PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL ACTUALLY THE UNITS WERE SOLD TO A NEW NAME AND REQUIRED TO GET NEW LICENSE NO MATTER WHAT. THAT MATTER ACTUALLY -- IT IS GOING TO BE ADDRESSED THROUGH OUR PROCESSES.

AND -- AND WE WILL SEE WHAT COMES OF IT.

TO ANSWER THE INITIAL QUESTION, THAT IS THE ONLY ONE I AM AWARE OF NOT COMPLIEDED WITH OUR ORDINANCE.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I UNDERSTAND -- I READ IT AND I UNDERSTAND THE NAME CHANGE AND ALL OF THAT.

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TO WATCH IF ANY WAY -- ANY WAY WE CAN PREVENT.

WE CAN PREVENT ANY TYPE OF LAWSUIT THAT YOU IS COMING.

AND -- AND, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A DUTY TO -- IF I CAN.

I HAVE A DUTY IF I CAN TO BRING IT TO THE ATTENTION.

IF WE CAN STOP SOMETHING, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE POWER TO DO SO TO TRY TO WORK SOMETHING OUT. THAT IS FINE.

IF WE CAN AND TAMPA DOES END UP IN LITIGATION OR THREAT OF LITIGATION WHICH I AM NOT AFRAID OF THREAT OF LITIGATION.

I KNOW ONCE IT GOES TO THE COURT, IT IS OUT OF OUR HAND.

SO IF ANYTHING WE CAN DO AS A BOARD NOT TO SPENDS MONEY OR PAY MONEY TO -- TO ALL MY ATTORNEY FRIENDS -- DON'T GET MAD TO ME, TO AN ATTORNEY TO LOOK AT SOMETHING.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IT FOR A WAY -- WE LIKE WHAT WE ARE DOING.

WE THINK THAT WE ARE RIGHT. WE STAND BY THE LAW AND LET THE JUDGE DECIDE. AND THE REVENUE OF THE CITY.

I AM BRINGING IT TO THE BOARD TO SEE IF ANYTHING CAN BE DONE TO -- WE ALL KNOW THE ONE INDIVIDUAL.

WE ALL KNOW -- WE ALL KNOW WHAT IS BEING SAID, WHAT IS OUT THERE. SO CAN CALMER MINDS COME TOGETHER AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY. IF NOT.

AND THEN WE STILL GO WHERE I THINK WE ARE GOING TO GO.

THEN WE WILL JUST WEIGHT AND SEE FROM THERE.

THAT IS WHY I BROUGHT IT BACK UP JUST TO SEE WHAT MY COLLEAGUES THOUGHTS. BECAUSE I COULDN'T TALK TO YOU GUYS INDIVIDUALLY. WHAT DO YOU THINK.

IF MADAM ATTORNEY -- IF SHE WAS IN THE NIGHTING AND WIND A NIGHTING. IF YOU WANT TO CHIME IN, YOU CAN. IF NOT, YOU WANT ME -- IT IS UP TO YOU. YOU CAN EXPLAIN IT BETTER WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT BECAUSE YOU HAD SOME IDEAS ALSO.

IF YOU WANTS TO NOT TALK ABOUT IT, THAT IS FINE.

>> SO, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, SO THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT LINES OF DISCUSSION THAT WE ARE REALLY HAVING.

YOU ARE HAVING A LEGAL DISCUSSION AND ALSO A POLICY DISCUSSION OF HOW YOU ALL WANT TO HANDLE POLICY WISE.

FROM A LEGALISTIC PERSPECTIVE. SOMEONE WENT THROUGH THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS AS JEREMIAH JOHNSON.

THAT WAS A ZONING CLASSIFICATION.

WE ARE TALKING OF A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PROCESS.

FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD I DO NOT, IN MY OPINION, BELIEVE THAT HAVING A CONDITIONAL USE AS A ZONING APPLICATION MEANS THAT EXEMPTS YOU FROM THE REQUIREMENTS THAT EXISTS.

A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE. TOLL SEE PERSPECTIVE, A QUESTION FOR YOU ALL ALL, IF YOU WANT TO CREATE A SPECIAL RULE RELATED TO THOSE WHO WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS.

AND OF THE FORMATTING. WE BELIEVE THE ISSUE THAT EXISTS IS THE ONE PERSON DOESN'T BELIEVE THEY HAVE TO REGISTER AND DOESN'T HAVE TO PAY THE REGISTRATION.

SO THE QUESTION IS, WHETHER THOSE THAT ORIGINALLY WENT THROUGHOUT CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS, YOU WANT TO CREATE A DIFFERENT SET OF RULES FOR THEM OR ALLOWANCES FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS. IT WAS THE GIST OF THE CONVERSATION WE HAD AND COMMISSIONER GAINES CAN CORRECT

ME IF I'M WRONG ON ANY OF THAT. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: MADAM ATTORNEY, I AGREE. I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE LEGAL SIDE. THE LEGAL SIDE IS WHAT IT IS.

MISS ARRAIZ, THE LEGAL SIDE IS WHAT IT IS.

AS THE POLICYMAKERS, I BROUGHT IT BACK UP TO SEE IF SOMETHING WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT. IF EVERYBODY IS LIKE ARNOLD, BE QUIET AND SIT DOWN, I AM GOOD WITH IT.

AS CITY COMMISSIONERS ASSAY, HEY, GUYS, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TOP MAKE A POLICY FOR THE PEOPLE.

BECAUSE ONLY CERTAIN PEOPLE THAT WENT THROUGH PROCEDURE.

I BROUGHT IT UP. AND WE MOVED ON.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

I HAD THE SAME REQUEST. AND WE HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED WITH THE INDIVIDUAL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY, THE CONDITIONAL USE APPLICANT THAT IS NOW ASKING FOR SOME -- SOME CHANGES OR SOME CONSIDERATION. WE HAVEN'T MET WITH SOME INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO BRING AN ATTORNEY TO THE TABLE AND I WASN'T FOLLOWING DO THAT.

THAT IS ALL RIGHT. I AM ON PUBLIC RECORD IN MY E-MAIL. I WILL SAY THIS.

[01:35:01]

MADAM MAYOR, SHE AND I ARE THE ONLY TWO FROM THE FIVE OF US TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A LONG TIME.

THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. BUT COME TO MULTIPLE HEARINGS.

AND I FORGET WHAT THE RATE IS AND WHAT THE TOTAL COLCUMULATIV AMOUNT IS. BUT I AM SPECULATING BECAUSE I MARY RUMBLING FROM THE PUBLIC, $1,000 OR MORE $1300 FOR SOME REASON IS STICKING IN MY HEAD. I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT IT IS JUST WHAT IT IS. HERE IS MY POINT.

THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND THE ONES THAT CAME FROM HERE ASKED FOR SOMETHING SPECIAL WITHIN THIS CITY THAT WAS NOT ALLOWED UNDER PART OF OUR CODE BUT EDGARTOWN. THEY ASKED FOR SOMETHING SPECIAL. IF THEY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND GRANTED, THEY WERE ALLOWED TO DO THAT.

WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND IN TURN COLLECTED REVENUE BECAUSE OF A SPECIAL CONNECTION, LEASING OUT AIRBNB, VRBO, WHATEVER IT IS, AND THEY WERE MAKING MONEY. NOW TALKING ABOUT -- GIVE THEM A CREDIT OF SOME SORT WHICH I DON'T AGREE WITH.

DID WE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE TIME THAT THE LIGHTS WERE ON IN THIS COMMISSION THAT THE TAXPAYER.

THEIR APPLICATION FEES COVERED. DEDUCT FROM THE APPLICATION FEE.

MY PERSONAL OPINION, WOULD YOU SAY YOU ALREADY MADE MONEY OFF OF THE PROCESS. BEFORE THE QUOTE, UNQUOTE, REGISTRATION WE NOW HAVE ON THE BOOKS.

DO WE DEDUCT THAT. BY THE TIME WE -- BY THE TIME THE COSTS IN MY -- IN MY PERSONAL OPINION.

THEY PAID FOR A PROCESS, NOW THEY ARE GRANTED A SPECIAL PERMISSION. AND THEY WENT OFF AND DID THEIR BUSINESS SO THE REGISTRATION PROCESS ON TOP OF THIS, TOTALLY SEPARATE SUBJECT. I TRY TO HOLD UP AS MUCH AS I CAN BEFORE OPENING MY TAX BILL, BUT I DID OPEN IT THIS WEEKEND.

MAKE ME GRUMPY EVERY TIME I OPEN IT.

SO I OPENED IT UP, AND, OF COURSE, MR. CRAFT HIMSELF.

A PAPER ATTACHEDED THAT SAYS, OH, BY THE WAY, IF YOU WANT TO RENT OUT YOUR HOME, COME ON THIS, MAKE SURE YOU ARE REGISTERED. OH, BY THE WAY, HERE IS WHAT YOU DO. AND WE ARE GOING TO COLLECT YOUR TOURIST TAX ON THAT. WE CAN'T COLLECT YOUR TOURIST TAX WITHOUT BEING REGISTERED. HE DIDN'T GET SPECIFIC IN HIS LETTER AS I RECALL. I WAS ALREADY GRUMPY AND IT WENT HAZY ON ME. I SAW IT.

AND I WAS LIKE, THAT IS FUNNY. WE ARE GETTING READY TO TALK ABOUT IT. I DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS PUTTING IT IN THE TAX BILL, BUT HE DID. I AM LIKE, YEAH, YOU HAVE TO BE REG REGISTER BAUER TOURISM DOLLARS AT STAKE. REGISTRATION FEES AT STAKE.

PUBLIC PROTECTION AT STAKE. ALL THESE PROCESSES THAT WE CRE CREATED.

I THINK WE ARE IN A GOOD STANDING POSITION.

IF I AM TESTIFYING WHICH I AM NOT GOING TO.

N NOPE.

I WOULD SAY ALL THOSE THINGS AND MORE AND I THINK WE HAVE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE. A GREAT PROCESS AND A GREAT RATE AND NOW WE ARE HIRE AND CHANGED IT.

THAT IS WHERE I STAND. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ANYONE ELSE?

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: GLAD OR HAPPY TO SHARE IT.

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: OBVIOUSLY YOU KNEW I WOULD HAVE A FEW COMMENTS RELATIVE TO THIS. FIRST OFF, FOR FULL DISCLOSURE, I AM ONE OF THOSE NEXT WENT THROUGH THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS AND PAID THOSE FEES AND WAS LEGITIMATELY REGISTERED WITH

THE CITY. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: DID YOU? I DIDN'T REMEMBER THAT?

I DON'T KNOW WHY. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: I HAD RECUSED MIND SELF FROM THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING.

MY WIFE AND I OWN A UNIT AT OCEAN CITY AND IT HAS BEEN ON THE ROLLS THROUGH THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS.

AM I OFFENDED FOR THE FEES THAT I PAID TO THE CITY AT THE TIME, ABSOLUTELY NOT. A FOR-PROFIT OPERATION.

WE WERE DOING IT FOR A PROFIT MOTIVE INTENTION.

WHEN THE TASK FORCE WAS PUT INTO PLACE, WE WENT THROUGH THESE DISCUSSIONS PER TRAIN TOGETHER CONDITION EWELL USE PROCESS.

AND I BELIEVE THAT WE SUCCESSFULLY KNAVE GATED THAT TO RECOMMEND THAT? NO, THAT SHOULDN'T BE THE CASE.

SPECIFICALLY AS COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON IS OUTLYING.

AND I WILL MAKE THE COMPARISON TO SUGGEST TOWING IS THAT WE NOW HAVE A NEW MECHANISM WITHIN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WE ARE UTILIZING TO USE CONCEPT PLANS A HECK OF A LOT LESS EXPENSIVE

[01:40:02]

I DESERVE A CREDIT. SYSTEMATICALLY, CHANGES COME ALONG REGULARLY IN GOVERNMENT AND IN BUSINESS TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESSES. REDUCE COSTS.

OPEN IT UP TO MORE SPECTRUM OF PEOPLE WHO WISH TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT PROCESS. HAVING SAID THAT, FIRST DEGREY, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR COMPLIANCE NUMBERS.

I THINK THAT IS OUTSTANDING, BUT THAT IS EVIDENCE OF HOW WELL THE PROCESS IS NOW WORKING AFTER THREE YEARS, GIVE OR TAKE.

AND WE KNEW WHEN THAT -- WHEN THAT PROCESS WAS MODIFIED FROM THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS. THERE WILL BE FITS AND STARTS.

SOFT WARE BEING ONE OF THEM. THE LARGEST HURDLE TO CROSS, BUT I BELIEVE THE PROGRAM IS AS SUCCESSFUL AS IT POSSIBLY CAN BE. YOUR DEPARTMENT HAVE ITS HANDS ON ITS ENTIRETY, AND I AM VERY, VERY THRILLED WE ARE AT THE POINT WHERE WE ARE PROGRESSED WHERE WE ARE NOW.

HOWEVER -- STANDING POLICY IN MY BUSINESS FOR 0 YEARS SINCE WE OPENED THE DOORS IS THAT IF YOU ARE GOING TO THREATEN OUR COMPANY WITH LITIGATION, WE SIMPLY TERMINATE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS, NEGOTIATIONS, ETC. I SAT AT THIS DARE YAS -- AND THIS -- I HAD A LOT OF CAFFEINE TODAY.

LET ME WORK THROUGH IT. I SAT ON THIS DAIS FOR 11 MONTHS, 11 AND A HALF MONTHS. MY ONE-YEAR ANNIVERSARY IS COMING UP SOON. AND IT IS A PRIVILEGE TO SIT ON THIS DAIS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I OBSERVED IS THAT THE CITY COMMISSION INDIVIDUALLY OR PRIVATE MEETINGS ONE ON ONE, IT HAPPENED IN SOME OF THE MEETINGS THAT I HAD, IN THE PUBLIC QUORUM HERE WITH PEOPLE PRESENTING FROM A LECTERN IS THIS METHODOLOGY OR DESIRE TO BULLY AND INTIMIDATE THE CITY COMMISSION WHICH MEANS WE ARE TRYING TO BULLY AND INTIMIDATE THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE WITH THESE THREATS OF LITIGATION. I, FOR ONE, FIND THIS AN UNIQUE BUSINESS THEORY THAT YOU ARE GOING TO USE INTIMIDATION AND BULLYING TO TRY TO GET YOUR WAY BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE A POLICY.

IF YOU DON'T LIKE A POLICY, RUN FOR OFFICE AND CHANGE IT.

SIMPLY PUT, THE WHOLE THING OF LITIGATION AND BULLYING AND INTIMIDATION, TO ME IT HAS THE EXACT OPPOSITE EFFECT.

NOT A WORTHWHILE UNDER TAKING FOR MY PERSPECTIVE.

YOU WILL NOT GET ANYWHERE WITH ME USING THAT APPROACH.

HAVING SAID THAT THE TRUE, THE TRUE RESPONSE TO THAT IS DON'T THREATEN IT. GO AHEAD AND DO IT.

IF YOU HAVE A CAUSE OF ACTION AGAINST THIS COMMISSION AND CAUSE OF ACTION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, DON'T STAND THE COMMITMENT GO OUT AND FILE THE SUIT AND GET YOUR CHECKBOOK OUT, GO TO YOUR ATTORNEY AND WRITE YOUR RETAINER CHECK AND WILL SEE YOU IN COURT AND SEE WHO PREVAILS.

I, FOR ONE, AM NOT GOING TO CHANGE POLL SEAL DUE TORT THREAT OF LITIGATION. IN THAT IS THE CASE, PEOPLE WILL BE LINED UP FROM HERE ALL THE WAY TO THE PARKING GARAGE BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THIS POLICY AND I WILL THREATEN TO SUE THE CITY COMMISSION AND CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

I NEED THE MESSAGE TO BE LOUDARD CLEAR.

SPEAKING FOR MYSELF. I AM GETTING RAMPED UP.

TAKE PERSONAL OFFENSE TO THIS. AND FALL ON DEAF EARS AND AN INEFFECTIVE STRATEGY. GO AHEAD AND DO IT.

DON'T STAND HERE AND TALKING ABOUT IT.

I HAVE SEEN IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

GET IT. WE ARE NOT IN A POSITION WHERE WE CAN NECESSARILY RESPOND TO THAT.

BUT THE TOPIC HAS BEEN OPEN HERE THIS MORNING.

YOU WILL NOT COME IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND PUSH THESE PEOPLE AROUND. NOT COME IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND PUSH THE CITY COMMISSION, YOU ARE PUSHING AROUND THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

I SIMPLY FROM NO PATIENCE FOR THAT WHATSOEVER AND IT SEEMS TO BE HAPPENING MORE AND MORE AS THAT WHOLE CONCEPT OF BULLYING AND INSTILL DAYS NOW BECOMES THE NORM IN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY VERSUS AS LAST RESORT OF HAVING TO GO IN FRONT OF A JUDGE.

IF YOU CAN NOT RESOLVE THINGS ECONOMICALLY, YOU HAVE FAILED AND THAT IS WHAT THE COURT SYSTEM IS THERE TO STRAIGHTEN OUT WITH A THIRD PARTY LENDING THERE TO TRY TO RESOLVE DISPUTE.

THIS SEEMS TO BE HAPPENING ON A REGULAR BASIS TO THE CITY COMMISSION AND IN ONE ON ONE MEETINGS.

YOU DON'T LIKE MY DEVELOPMENT, YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE ME NEGATIVE INPUT ON THIS. I AM GOING TO SUE.

DON'T TELL ME YOU ARE GOING TO SUE.

FILE YOUR SUIT. LET'S TAKE TO COURT.

TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY DEAL WITH IT AND MOVE

[01:45:02]

IT IS INFURIATING TO ME SOMEONE WILL TAKE A POLICY AND SAY I DON'T LIKE THE POLICY. CHANGE IT OR I AM GOING TO SUE.

JUST GO AHEAD AND DO IT. I WILL TAP OUT ON THAT.

I AM GETTING RAMPED UP. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

IN DEFENSE OF THE CITY COMMISSION, IN DEFENSE OF THE STAFF FOR THE PHENOMENAL JOB THEY HAVE DONE AND MORE IMPORTANTLY FOR THE CITIZENS OF CITY OF FORT PIERCE, I AM DONE WITH THAT. IF YOU HAVE A CAUTION OF ACTION, TAKE IT. IF YOU DON'T, THERE IS THE DOOR.

I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: MR. BRODERICK -- COMMISSIONER BRODERICK AND COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, I AM GLAD WE ARE HAVING THAT DISCUSSION BECAUSE I CAN'T COME TO YOU INDIVIDUALLY BECAUSE OF SUNSHINE LAWS.

I BROUGHT IT UP TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION SO WE CAN SAY WHAT WE WANTED TO SAY I AND STAND. I GET THOSE CALLS EVERY DAY.

SEE NEW COURT. PAY ME MONEY OR I WILL SEE HAD YOU IN COURT. I SEE THAT EVERY DAY.

IN THE BACK OF MY MIND, I REPRESENT PEOPLE -- I REPRESENT PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

AND I HAVE TO PUT MY BELIEF AND TO SAY GO SUE.

TO THE SIDE JUST FOR A SECOND AND SAY, LET ME SEE IF I CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT THAT THE RESIDENTS OR THE CITY DON'T HAVE TO PAY A LAWYER OR DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR A JUDGMENT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THE JUDGMENT IS THE GOING TO GO.

I HAVE BEEN IN MANY CASES WHERE I THOUGHT THE LAW WAS ON MY SIDE. I KNEW I WAS GOING TO WIN.

I WALKED OUT LOOKING LIKE WHAT IN THE WORLD JUST HAPPENED.

ALL I WAS TRYING TO DO TODAY IS BRING A DISCUSSION TO ALL OF US.

BECAUSE I CAN'T IMMEDIATE WITH INDIVIDUALS TO SAY, HEY IF THAT IS OUR STAND, SO BE IT. LET'S DISCUSS IT.

AND WE IF FROM THERE. IF WE ARE SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE. SUE US.

BECAUSE WE ARE TIRED OF THE THREATS.

SO BE IT. I BROUGHT THE DISCUSSION AND SAID WE KNOW THE THREATS OUT THERE.

WE ALL GOT THEM WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S UP.

THERE A WAY TO DO SOMETHING TO MAKE IT GO AWAY OR NOT GO AWAY.

THAT IS A BAD WORD TO NOT HAVE IT WORK OUT.

IF WE SAY NO, I AM GOOD WITH THAT.

WE ARE DOING WHAT OUR CONSCIOUS HAS TAUGHT ME TO DO TO SAVE THE TAXPAYERS OR THE RESIDENTS OR THE CITY.

ALL OF US. A POTENTIAL LAWSUIT THAT COULD OR COULD NOT COME. I DON'T KNOW.

I BROUGHT IT TO US IT BECAUSE CAN'T KNOCK ON INDIVIDUALS' DOORS AND SAY GUYS, WHAT DO YOU YOU THINK.

I LOVE THE CONVERSATION. I UNDERSTAND WHAT EVERYBODY FEELS AND WHERE EVERYBODY ARE. AND WE CAN MOVE ON.

I AM GOOD. GREAT JOB WITH THE REGISTRATION.

IT WASN'T EVEN A REGISTRATION ISSUE.

I KNOW YOU CAME. I WANTED TO GO TO FELLOW COLLEAGUES WHERE I COULD. AND SAY, GUYS, IT IS OUT THERE.

WAT ARE WE GOING TO DO. ARE WE GOING TO DRAW IT OR DOOR IT. OR COME TOGETHER AND SEE IF WE CAN WORK IT OUT. IN MY FIELD OF BUSINESS, BEFORE I GET TO A JURY OR A JUDGE, THE JUDGE OF THAT CASE IS GOING TO MAKE ME SIT DOWN WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL AND GO THROUGH SOME TYPE OF SETTLEMENT OR MEDIATION OR WHATEVER.

THAT IS HOW I AM TRAINED. THAT'S ALL I AM DOING TODAY.

MADAM ATTORNEY CAN TELL YOU, BEFORE WE GET TO THIS POINT.

WE WILL MAKE THE TWO PARTIES SIT TOGETHER TO SEE IF WE CAN WORK IT OUT. IF WE CAN'T AND WE ARE TO THE POINT THAT WE TRIED AND EVERYTHING ELSE DID IT, AND THIS IS WHERE WE ARE, I AM GOOD. I FEEL LIKE I DID WHAT I NEEDED TO DO. TALK TO MY COLLEAGUES.

TALK TO MADAM MAYOR. AND I AM GOOD.

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: CAN I -- I NEED TO ADDRESS THIS DIRECTLY TO COMMISSIONER GAINES. MY COMMENTS ARE NOT DIRECTED AT

YOU. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I KNOW.

I AM GOOD. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: THE WORK YOU PUT ON THIS COMMISSION, I RESPECT IN TOTALITY.

MY COMMENTS ARE ADDRESSED SPE SPECIFIC TO THE PEOPLE OUTSIDE THIS ROOM THAT MAY BE POTENTIALLY LISTENING TO THIS MEETING AS WE SPEAK THINKING IT IS OPEN SEASON -- NOT PARTICULARLY OPEN SEASON. IF I RATTLE MY SABRES AND POUND MY FIST ON THE DESK BECAUSE I AM NOT GETTING WHAT I WANT.

THAT IS NOT THE TYPE OF BUSINESS THAT WE NEED TO DEAL WITH AT THAT LEVEL. WE ARE HERE TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND THEIR BEST INTEREST.

IF THERE ARE LEGAL GROUNDS FOR THEM TO SUE THE CITY, OUR CITY ATTORNEY WILL CERTAINLY ADVISE US OF THAT IF YOU WANTON SAY WHO IS HARMED BY THIS POTENTIALLY, 15 APPLICANTS WHO -- MAYBE 20, 25, I AM ONE OF THEM. I AM SAYING, THERE IS NO HARM.

[01:50:03]

IF YOU DON'T DO WHAT I WANT, I WILL SUE.

MY RESPONSE WAS, THEN SUE. THOSE DELAYS ARE DONE AND TO SIMPLY PUT, I RESPECT YOU BRINGING A VERY DIFFICULT TOPIC.

AND I KNOW I GET EXCITED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT IS JUST THE PROTECTIONIST THING FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FOR THIS BOARD

AND THIS COMMISSION, I AM DONE. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, NO HARM TAKEN, AGAIN.

I CAN'T HAVE THIS DISCUSSION -- >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: I GET IT. I AM DONE.

I AM DONE. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: BEHIND

THE DAIS. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON IS ABOUT TO THROW ME OVER THE DAIS.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YOU EVER NO COMMENT?

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I AM GOOD.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: I WOULD LIKE TO CLOSE OUT BY SAYING THAT I THINK WE ARE TRYING TO BE FAIR. WE ARE TRYING TO BE FAIR TO THE CITIZENS AS WELL AS WE HAVE THE LEARNING PROCESS OURSELVES BECAUSE THIS SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROCESS WAS NEW TO US.

AND THE LEGISLATURE KEPT MAKING CHANGES AND WE KEPT TRYING -- WE KEPT TRYING TO PROTECT THE THE CITY WHILE BEING WELCOMED BY THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL. FAIRNESS IS WHAT WE SAY IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE. AND FAIRNESS -- I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS I HEARD YOU SAY TWICE.

I AM JUST TRYING TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.

I THOUGHT YOU LEARNED THAT YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

I AM KIDDING. I AM KIDDING.

I KNOW, I AM KIDDING. I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM, BECAUSE THAT IS YOUR TRAINING.

IF YOU PUT YOU IT THAT WAY, YOU SEE THAT.

SO I AM THINKING -- I THINK WE THOUGHT THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

WHEN WE GAVE UP THE CONDITIONAL USE AND WENT THROUGH THE REN STATION PROCESS AND A LOT OF WORK AND THOUGHT THAT WENT INTO IT. NOT KNOW TALLY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

AND WE GAVE A LITTLE AND CAME UP WITH THE BEST PART.

WE LOWERED THE FEES. I AM EXCITED TO HEAR WHAT IS HAPPENING AND I AM HAPPY THAT WE DON'T HEAR COMPLAINTS.

WHEN I HEAR COMPLAINTS. I KNOW THE SYSTEM ISN'T WORKING.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THANK YOU, ACTUALLY, FOR BRINGING THIS DISCUSSION. WE NEEDED TO HAVE -- WE NEEDED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION. WE NEEDED TO HAVE THIS TALK.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: WE DID, JUST FOR THE RECORD, CAN WE LIMIT COMMISSIONER BRODERICK TO ONE CUP OF COFFEE ON MONDAY MORNING? [LAUGHTER]

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YOU WANT TO MONITOR HIS COFFEE INTAKE.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: COFFEE INTAKE ON A MONDAY MORNING.

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: NOT A BAD IDEA.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: ARE WE DONE WITH THIS TOPIC? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MI MISS ARRAIZ.

>> NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

[6. City Commission Boards and Committees Updates]

>> NEXT ITEM IS CITY COMMISSION BOARD AND COMMITTEE UPDATES.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START SINCE YOU HAVE A LOT OF COFFEE?

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: I HAVE A HEADACHE NOW.

SO LET ME TRY TO REFOCUS ON. ONE THINGS THAT COMMISSIONER GAINES AND I BOAT SIT ON THE RETIREMENT BOARD.

WE DISCUSS IT AT THE LAST COMMISSION MEET BE.

I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING A DEEP DIVE INTO THAT INFORMATION.

AND -- AND THERE WILL BE A LOT MORE TO REPORT PERTAINING THAT TO COMING UP. PARKING COMMITTEE.

LATEST MEETING WAS CANCELLED. THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WILL BE COMING FORWARD WITH THAT THROUGH THAT GROUP RELATIVE TO A VARIETY OF MATTERS DOWNTOWNS. LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT REPORT.

THAT MIGHT BE TEED UP FOR SOME TIME IN DECEMBER.

AND WE ARE WORKING ON A LENGTHY LIST OF WANTS AND NEEDS AND RECOMMENDATIONSES. SO THERE WILL BE SOME INTERESTING INFORMATION OUT OF THAT.

I THINK THAT IS REALLY THE HIGHLIGHTS THAT I HAVE FOR NOW.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO NEXT?

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREETS MET -- THIS PAST WEDNESDAY. LOSING TRACK OF TIME.

HAD A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING. WE LOST OUR PRESIDENT SUDDENLY

[01:55:07]

WHICH HAVE A NEW PRESIDENT, DR. DAVID WASHINGTON HAS JOINED OUR BOARD. HE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET. THIS FAST FRIDAY WE WORKED A VERY NICE EVENT. WE ARE GEARING UP FOR THE HOLIDAY SEASON AND WE DO THE TOYS ON MORRIS CREEK.

AND THIS IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE HOPE MORE INFORMATION IS COMING. WE ASKED -- TO SIGN UP AND PARTICIPATE. I HAVE SOME POSTERS AND SEE IF I GET POSTED IN CITY HALL. WE HAVE A DATE -- YEAH, WE HAVE DATES FOR THAT FOR THE 5K WALK ALONG THAT AND AND WILL BE A VERY FESTIVE OCCASION. TPO.

I HAD GOTTEN E-MAIL AND PHONE CALLS FROM CITIZENS REGARDING TRAFFIC SIGNALS ALONG U.S. 1 AT DIFFERENT INTERSECTIONS AND POINTS. WE WILL BE CONVEYING THOSE COMMENTS ALONG. FIRE BOARD IS COMING UP THIS WEEKS TOO. AND, YOU KNOW, WE ARE -- WE ARE STILL MOURNING THE LOSS OF ONE OF THE THIS PAST WEEK.

AND HE WAS MEMORIALIZED, ETC. OUR THOUGHTS AND PLAYERS WITH THE FIRE FIGHTER FAMILY AS THEY CONTINUE TO GRIEVE AND DEAL WITH THE PROCESS. WHAT ELSE? THAT'S IT FOR ME FOR NOW AS FAR AS BOARDS.

THANK YOU. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER GAINES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO NEXT?

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: YES, MADAM MAYOR.

RETIREMENT BOARD, COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, I HAD TO CORRECT MYSELF. I WENT BACK AND FOUND A COUPLE PRESENTATIONS WHERE WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE UNIONS AND SOME OF THOSE -- SOME OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THEY HAD REACHED OUT TO THE UNION.

AND MAKE THE CLARIFICATION FOR THAT.

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: GOOD TO KNOW.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: THEY TO DO THAT.

THE AFFORDABLE -- THE HOMELESS TASK FORCE I AM ON WITH THE COUNTY HAS -- WE SUBMITTED OUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNTY.

THEY READ IT AND THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO DO WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO. AND SEE IF THE BOARD IS GONE.

THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE CITY.

WE MET LAST WEEK. WE WERE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH QUORUM. I WAS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS, BUT I DID SHOW UP. AND THEY HAVE COMPLETED THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO US. SO THAT SHOULD BE COMING FROM THAT BOARD THAT ADVISORY BOARD TO PRESENT IN SOME UPCOMING AGENDA. THE ROUNDTABLE THAT ME AND COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SERVED ON, I MISSED THAT FIRST MEETING BECAUSE I WAS ON THE ROAD GOING SOMEWHERE IN JACKSONVILLE.

I KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH AND WHAT WE ARE ABOUT. MADAM MAYOR, I WAS AT A DIVE

MEET FOR -- >>MAYOR HUDSON: TREASURE COAST

COUNCIL OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I WAS AT DIVE MEET FROM MY SON AND MADAM MAYOR DECIDED TO GO TO THAT ONE.

I AM MISSING ONE COUNCIL OF AGING.

WE MET LAST WEEK. AND THEY GOT THROUGH THIS YEAR BECAUSE THEY GOT SOME TYPE OF GRANT FROM THE GOVERNMENT TO GET THEM THROUGH THIS YEAR. AND THEY ARE REALLY WORKING HARD TO TRY TO FIND THE MONEY THAT THEY LOST FROM THE COUNTY THEY ARE DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO PROVIDE THE -- THE SAME SERVICES THAT THEY HAVE DONE IN THE PAST. THEY HAVE GOT A CLEAN AUDIT.

THEY HAVE A CLEAN AUDIT, AND THEY ARE LOOKING FOR ANY AND EVERYBODY TO HELP THEM HELP THE ELDERLY.

THEY ARE READY TO HELP THE COUNTY AND ANY OTHER ORGANIZATION IN THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.

THEY HAVE THE VAN IS. THEY HAVE THE MEANS.

THEY HAVE THE DRIVERS. THEY JUST NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN ANY, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSIONS WITH TRANSPORT OF THE ELDERLY.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: FUNDING FOR THAT, TRANSPORTATION?

>> NOT YET. THEY ARE STILL WORKING ON IT.

I HEARD SOME SAD STORIES FROM SOME ELDERLY WHEN I WAS THERE

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I AM NOT GOING TO GO INTO THAT AND POINT FINGERS BECAUSE I WASN'T THERE, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF COMPLAINTS THAT THE COUNCIL OF AGING IS GETTING. AND THE REASON THE COUNCIL OF AGING IS GETTING THOSE COMPLAINTS BECAUSE ON THE CITY BUSES -- I MEAN, ON THE COUNTY BUSES, THE ART BUSES, WHEN IT SAYS CALL THIS NUMBER TO COMPLAIN, THAT NUMBER IS TO THE

COUNCIL OF AGING AT THE COUNTY. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: OH,

BOY. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: THEY ARE GETTING THE COMPLAINTS. AND SO IF WE ARE GOING TO ASK -- THEY MADE A RECOMMENDATION AT THAT MEETING THAT THEIR NUMBERS BE CLANGED TO THE COUNTY. SO THAT THE COUNTY CAN REALLY MONITOR THE COMPLAINTS THEY ARE GETTING BECAUSE THE COMPLAINTS ABOUT TO THE COUNCIL OF AGING. SO, MADAM CCHAIR I THINK ALL MY BOOSHDZ. I DON'T THINK I MISSED ONE.

IF YOU CAN COVER THE ONE I MISSED.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: SURE. COMMISSIONER J. JOHN ON.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: WHERE TO START, THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION, TPO. A CONVERSATION WITH MR. BUCK, TWSHGSALD TO SHOW WHAT INFLUENCE WE CAN HAVE ON THE HIGH POINT DISCUSSION. IN ADDITION TO THAT, LOOKING AT THE BRIGHTLINE DISCUSSION. I DON'T KNOW IN THE TPO CAN BRING ANYTHING. I THOUGHT I WOULD BRING IT UP AND HAVE CREATIVE IDEAS ON THAT. ON THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT SIDE, WE HAVE A MEETING COMING UP. HAVING LUNCH WITH CHARLOTTE, THE DIRECTOR HERE SOON TO TALK OF A NUMBER OF THINGS.

REBRANDING AT THE TDC. HAS BEEN A WHILE WINS IS HE UPDATED LOGOS AN MARKETING MATERIALS.

REBRANDING. AND CHARLOTTE AND I HAD WILL HAVE A CONVERSATION. SHE WILL HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH OTHER TDC MEMBERS. I WOULD LIKE TO EN CARRIAGE GAUGE GAGE ITS TCDC FOR THE BRIGHTLINE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: FOR BRIGHTLINE. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: ALL THINGS BRIGHTLINE FOR THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: JUST QUESTION FOR YOU, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. COMPILING THE WHOLE FULL COURT PREGNANCY FOR BRIGHTLINE. DO YOU THINK THAT THE EDC WILL

HAVE ANY IMPACT? >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: I TALKED TO MR. MIMMS. AND HE HAS ENGAGED THE EDC.

>>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK: A POWERFUL LOBBYING.

I BELIEVE THAT IS HAPPENING. I AM ALMOST 100% WITHOUT HIM SITTING HERE. LET'S SEE.

WHAT ELSE WHAT AM I LOOKING FOR. CHAMBERS.

THEY HAVE THEIR OFFICERS SWORN IN.

UNABLE TO ATTEND THAT. BUT WE HAVE A MEETING THIS WEDNESDAY. MAIN STREET FORT PIERCE, WE ARE HEAVILY ENGAGED IN ALL KINDS OF EVENTS.

HEAVY -- HEAVY LIFT THIS TIME OF YEAR.

WHETHER IT IS HART OPTIONS AND ART EVENTS.

THERE IS A -- THERE IS AN EVENT TOMORROW NIGHT AT THE BACCHUS HOUSE IN ADDITION TO THE SIGHTS AND SOUNDS.

THEY HAVE BEEN MEETING FOR FOUR MONTHS NOW.

THIS IS COMING TOGETHER. ALWAYS A CHALLENGING EFFORT BUT AN EXCITING TIME SO I HOPE ALL OF YOU ALL WILL BE THERE FOR TH THAT.

LET'S SEE WHEN WAS THE LAST ONE I WANTED TO SAY.

BY FEEL LIKE I AM MISSING ONE. I AM LOOKING THROUGH THE CALENDAR TO KNOW WHAT IS COMING. THERE IS A CHANCE -- A VERY, VERY LIKELY CHANCE I WILL BE OUT OF TOWN MONDAY.

I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU ALL.

WE HAVE A COMMISSION MEETING ON ITS 20TH AND I HAVE BUSINESS OUT OF TOWN I HAVE TO TEND TO AND ATTEND SO I WILL NOT BE HERE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: AT THE COMMISSION MEETING.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: I WANTED TO SHARE THAT.

MR. MIMMS AND I AND MISS HEDGES -- I DON'T THINK WE HAVE GOTTEN THE AGENDA OFFICIALLY YET. BUT I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT.

SO THANK YOU. >>MAYOR HUDSON: I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE TPO. AND MAYBE THIS -- DID YOU ASSESS THE CONNECTOR -- THE SUN TRAIL GOING THROUGH THE COURT.

HAVE YOU DISCUSSED THAT YET AT THE TPO?

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: DID WE GET TO THAT ONE?

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: THE LATEST PACKAGE.

>> THE LATEST FOR THE MEETING DATE OF OCTOBER 25.

THE PORT OF FORT PIERCE. THEY OFFER THREE DIFFERENT ROUTES THROUGH THE PORT. NOTES THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT

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AND DECIDED OR PROVIDED INPUT. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: I DON'T REMEMBER DECIDE SOMETHING ANYTHING OTHER THAN IT WAS NEEDED TO AND CONNECT NORTH BRIDGE INTO THAT CORRIDOR.

>> THEY HAVE A RECOMMENDED ROUTE AT THE SECOND STREET ROUTE.

>> THIS IS THROUGH THE PORT. >> THE LITTLE SPURS THAT WALKED THR THROUGH.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: I WAS NORTHWEST AT THAT MEETING,

MAYOR. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: A LOT WILL HAVE DISCUSSION AND THEY WERE GOING TO GET WITH THE MAYOR ON THE CITY SIDE. THAT IS GOING TO CONNECT.

HOWEVER THEY WORK THROUGH THOSE CONNEC

CONNECTIONS. >>MAYOR HUDSON: I WONDER IF YOU

MADE A DECISION OF THAT ONE. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: NO, I DON'T THINK SO. I HAVE TO MEET WITH MR.

BUCKWALT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: WHO WANTS TO BE ON U.S. 1. EXACTLY.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: ACTUALLY U.S. 1.

IF I CAN SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE.

I WAS KIND OF PUSH CAN BACK STREAMING UPSTREAM AS I USUALLY DO BECAUSE A TON OF RIGHT-OF-WAY FROM NORTH BRIDGE A1A AROUND

WHERE OLD DIXIE HILL FORKS OFF. >> WHICH SIDE.

EAST SIDE. D.O.T. PUT THE PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY TO GET FROM THE BRIDGE DOWN TO DIXIE HIGHWAY AND THE

COUNTY WILL RENEW DIXIE HIGHWAY. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THEY ARE?

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: THAT IS THEIR PLAN.

AND BRIDGE CLOSED FOR SIX YEARS. >> I THOUGHT THEY WEREN'T GOING

TO DO IT. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS IN THEIR BUDGET OR NOT.

PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY. THE CHALLENGE FROM WHATEVER THEIR DISCHARGE AS A PEDESTRIAN COMING SOUTHBOUND TO GETS OVER TO THE PORT TO GET INTO DOWNTOWN.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: THE PORT BEING INDUSTRIAL, COMMERCIAL, THEN ALSO PUBLIC PROPERTY. THAT IS THE CHALLENGE.

SO THE IDEA IS TO LEAD THEM THROUGH THE PARK POSSIBLY AND

CONNECT TO DOWNTOWN. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ALL RIGHT.

I SAW THAT -- BECAUSE I GET THE PACKET.

I GUESS I AM BACK-UP FOR SOMEBODY.

SO I GOT THE BACK-UP. SO I -- I THUMBED THROUGH IT.

I DON'T READ IT ALL CAREFULLY, BUT I THUMB THROUGH IT.

SO YOU ASKED ABOUT THE FIRE INSPECTIONS.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: I DID.

I ASKED ABOUT THE FOOD TRUCK FIRE INSPECTION.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THE FOOD TRUCK FIRE INSPECTION.

THEY STARTED IT AFTER THE FOOD TRUCK FIRE IN VERO.

THEY DO CHARGE FOR IT. AND IT IS UNDER WAYNE BOYER, THE FIRE MARSHAL. YOU CAN PAY LESS IF YOU CAN DO IT WITHIN A WORKING DAY. I AM GUESSING YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN ASKING ABOUT -- BECAUSE MAIN STREET WERE HAVING INSPECTIONS AND HAVING IT AFTER HOURS?

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: ANY ORGANIZED EVENT.

I DIDN'T BRING IF UP TODAY BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT -- ANY ORGANIZED EVENT WITH FOOD TRUCKS, THE FIRE DECISION STRICT IS MANDATING -- AND I KIND OF DISACE AGREE WITH IT.

BUT FOOD TRUCK INSPECTIONS BEFORE, DURING OR AFTER WHATEVER THE TIME FRAME FOR THESE FOOD TRUCKS.

THE FOOD TRUCKS HAVE A CERTIFICATION PROCESS AND I AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AND CORRELATE THE TWO.

PROBABLY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT SIDE RATHER THAN FIRE PPPREVENT

>>MAYOR HUDSON: HAS TO DO WITH THE PROPANE.

WHATEVER THEY USE AT LEAST THAT IS WHAT HE EXPLAINED TO ME.

I CAN GET MORE INFORMATION OR GIVE YOU THE PERSON TO GET MORE INFOR INFORMATION.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: I CAN CALL THE OFFICE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: CALL WA WAYNE BOYER.

I GOT THIS INFORMATION FROM CHIEF GONZALEZ, BUT HE SAID

WAYNE -- IT IS IN HIS -- >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: JUST SO YOU KNOW ANOTHER COST. NONPROFIT.

$140 EVERY TIME WE HAVE A. >>MAYOR HUDSON: PER VENDER.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: THANKFULLY NOT PER VENDER.

$140 AND GOING AROUND TO THE DIFFERENT FOOD TRUCKS.

A ONE-TIME VISIT SO JUST SEEMS. THEY ARE PAYING $25 OR 50 TO BE AT THE EVENT AND NOW THEY HAVE ADDITIONAL BURDEN, ADDITIONAL COST ON TOP OF -- BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SHARE THE LOVE, RIGHT.

MAIN STREET IS PAYING FOR IT BUT WE WILL GOT TO RECOUP IT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YEAH. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: I UNDERSTAND IT. AND SAFETY.

ANOTHER SAFETY THING. IS IT TRULY UNSAFE? I DON'T KNOW. A ONE-TIME EVENT.

THE FIRST TIME IN MY ENTIRE LIFE THAT I HEARD IT THAT FOOD TRUCK FIRE ASIDE FROM A KITCHEN FIRE. AND IT WAS PAUSE OF A PROPANE TANK. HERE WE ARE BLOOD BROVD EVERY TIME THERE IS AN EVENT, THEY HAVE TO BE INSPECTED.

NOT JUST AN ANNUAL CERTIFICATION?

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: THAT IS MICMY CHALLENGE BLOOD BROVD

COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: I DON'T KNOW IF IT WENT THROUGH THE BOARD.

THAT I FIND TO BE ODD. >>MAYOR HUDSON: I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT IT UNTIL YOU TOLD ME AND I CALLED.

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SO -- >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: THAT TEENS IN LIKE HIGH WOMEN FESTIVAL --

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES: I WILL BE QUIET ON THAT ONE.

>>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: ME TOO.

I AM GETTING MYSELF IN TROUBLE. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES: REAL QUICK. I CAN UNDERSTAND THE OF AN EWELL INSPECTION, BUT PROPANE RUNS OUT EVERY OTHER EVENT.

SO YOU ARE CHANGING THAT TANK. AND YOU ARE PUTTING THAT DANK BACK ON. I AM JUST.

I DON'T WANT TO BE AN EVENT WITH ONE OF THE PROPANE TANKS BLOW UP AND ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE GET HURT.

I UNDERSTAND -- I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, BUT AT SOME POINTS, WE NEED TO STEP BACK AND SAY, OKAY, GUYS, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE. IF EVERYBODY IS SHARING THE COST, SHARE THE COST SO EVERYBODY IS SAFE.

BUT IF WE ARE SAYING WE ARE GOING TO ALLOW ONE CERTIFICATION IN JANUARY AND IN NOVEMBER NOW SAND CHANGE MY TANK 20 TIMES AND ONE TTIME ABOUT THE HOOK-UP. WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL.

THAT IS MY TWO CENT ON THAT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: NOT EVERYBODY IS AN ENGINEER, COMMISSIONERING. SO REAL QUICKLY, TRESHGZ COUNCIL OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. WE HAD A MAJOR FROM THE WERE AY CORE OF ENGINEERS TALK OF LAKE OKEECHOBEE AND THE LEVELS.

GOOD NEWS. ALL GOOD NEWS.

AND THANKFULLY THEY HAVEN'T HAD TO HAVE ANY DISCHARGES OR MAJOR ONES. THE -- THE PRESSURE COAST REGIONLE LEAGUE OF CITIES. WE ARE GETTING READY FOR ADVOCACY IN THE LEGISLATURE. SOMETHING WE ARE ALL THINKING ABOUT. AND I ATTENDED THE FEST PLACES TO WORK PAUSE FPUA WAS AWARDED THE BEST PLACE TO WORK.

I WAS PROUD THAFD FOR THEM. I THINK TDC IS SPONSORING COFFEE WITH THE MAYOR. I THINK I REMEMBER THAT.

SO, YEAH -- SO THIS COMING FRIDAY.

THAT IS MY REPORT. SO THERE IS NOTHING ELSE -- YES?

WHAT? >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON:

COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON. >>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON:

I DON'T HAVE ANY. >>COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON: I THOUGHT YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO SAY.

>>COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON: NO, I AM GOOD.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: I THINK WE ARE GOING TO ADJOURN.

WE WILL BE LEAVING THE CHAMBERS. AND THANK YOU VERY

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