[1. Call to Order]
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SIX. >> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. THIS IS THE TAMPA CONFERENCE AGENDA, MONDAY, DECEMBER 11, 2023.
PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF ITS UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >> PRESENT.
[a. FPUAnet/Lincoln Park update - Danny Retherford and Jason Mittler]
>> THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE FPUANET AND LINCOLN PARK UPDATE WITH DANNY RETHERFORD AND JASON MITTLER FROM FPUA.
>> MR. MIMMS, ANY LEAD IN TO THIS?
>> AS A MATTER OF FACT, MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION, WE HAVE OUR DIRECTOR OF UTILITIES.
JAVIER CISNEROS AND TAKING THE LEAD ON THIS PRESENTATION AND THIS A PROJECT THAT IS A LODGE TIME COMING AND I BELIEVE THAT JASON MITTLER AND HIS TEAM HAS DONE AN EXTRAORDINARY JOB OF BRINGS THIS OPPORTUNITY TO OUR RESIDENTS.
TURN IT OVER TO JAVY AT THIS TIME.
>> WELCOME, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, MR. MIHMS, MISS COX AND MISS HEDGES. I AM JOINED BY JASON MITTLER THAT WILL GIVE UPDATES ON FPUANET AND THE PROGRESS IN THE PAST YEAR AND THE PROGRAM DRESS ON THE COMMUNITY.
I AM JOINED BY MR. DANNY RETHERFORD WHO WILL PROVIDE A QUICK UPDATE ON WHAT WE DID IN 2023, AND WHAT WE HAVE IN STORE FOR 2024. BUT BEFORE I HAND IT OVER TO THE CREW, I DO HAVE A FEW IMPORTANT UPDATES.
I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION.
SO GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO CLOSE OUT THE YEAR WITH WHAT I BELIEVE TO BE VERY GOOD NEWS. FIRST, I WANT TO TALK OF THE HARD WORK OF THE FPUA BOARD OVER THE PAST YEAR TO ADDRESS THE POWER COST ADJUSTMENTS. WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO LOCK IN GAS PRICES MARCH OF 2026. PRETTY GOOD STRETCH OF TIME.
LOCKING IN GAS PRICE IS ALMOST LIKE A LIFE INSURANCE POLICY.
YOU DON'T NEED IT AFTER SOMETHING BAD HAS HAPPENED.
SO WE ARE EXPECTING -- AND THIS IS THE NEWS THAT I WAS HOPING TO DELIVER TODAY WITH -- WE ARE EXPECTING THE PCA TO BE AT OR NEAR ZERO FOR THE PAST 20 MONTHS.
IN MY OPINION THAT IS REALLY A GAME CHANGER FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
NEXT, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK OF THE FPUA BILL COMPARISON.
FPUA IS IN THE LOWER HALF OF THE 30 MUNICIPAL CITIES IN THE STATE FOR KILOWATT HOURS. SINCE AUGUST, FPUA HAS BEEN LOWER THAN THE INVESTOR-OWNED UTILITIES IN THE STATE.
MOST RECENTLY SEPTEMBER, $15 LESS THAN FP &L.
I BELIEVE I DO EXPECT US TO BE THERE FOR THE LAST QUARTER OF 2023. AND MOST OF NEXT YEAR.
BUT IT IS REALLY HARD TO STAND ON THAT BOX BECAUSE THINGS CAN CHANGE PRETTY QUICKLY FEN. SO WE WILL KNOW MORE AND I WILL KEEP YOU POSTED ON WHAT THAT -- WHERE WE ARE AT WITH THE BILL COMPARISON. WE ALSO ARE WORKING ON A RATE STABILIZATION POWER COST ADJUSTMENT WORKSHOP WITH THE BOARD WHICH WILL LIKELY HOST IN LATE JANUARY, EARLY FEBRUARY.
AND THAT IS TO EVALUATE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE THIS MORE OF AN ONGOING PROGRAM VERSUS A REACTIVE PROGRAM.
SO THERE ARE RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH A LONG-TERM PLAN, BUT THIS -- THE GOAL BEHIND THIS WORKSHOP IS TO BE MORE ON OFFENSE THAN DEFENSE. SO THE LAST UPDATE THAT I WILL MENTION IS OUR GRANTS TEAM THAT WAS LED BY RACHEL HAS BEEN WORKING HARD OVER THE LAST YEAR. WE HAVE BEEN -- WE HAVE RECEIVED NOTICE FROM THE LATEST PUBLICATION FROM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION THAT FEDERAL-STATE LEVEL GRANT THAT WE QUALIFIED. HOPEFULLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE RECEIVED IT. WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK AHEAD OF US BUT ANOTHER $28 MILLION TO RELOCATE THE WATER PLANT. THIS IS A BIG DEAL FOR FPUA AND THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. A LOT OF WORK AHEAD OF US BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T -- WE COULD STILL POTENTIALLY BE ON THE CUT LIST, BUT WE FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE WE WILL STAY ON THE LIST AND CONTINUE TO ENGAGE WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE WE STAY HIGH ON THAT LIST. JUST AS IMPORTANT -- IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOT ONLY WHEN YOU GET THE GRANTS, YOU STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK AFTER YOU GET THE GRANTS TO MAKE SURE YOU STAY ON TOP OF THE PAPERWORK. BECAUSE YOU DON'T EVER WANT TO BE ON THE NAUGHTY LIST. AND I PROMISE THAT IS THE ONLY RIFF RESIDENCE TO SANTA CLAUS I WILL MAKE TODAY.
WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO JASON AND GET AN UPDATE FROM
HIM. >> UNLESS THERE ARE QUESTIONS.
I WANT TO CLARIFY, LOWER THAN FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT?
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>> YES, SIR WE ARE, YES, MA'AM. >> SINCE I HAVE BEEN MAYOR, THE
FIRST TIME THAT HAPPENED. >> IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME, YES,
MA'AM. >> I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT.
>> QUICK QUESTION. I WILL EMPHASIZE AGAIN, WE ARE
LOWER THAN FPL, CORRECT? >> YES, SIR, WE ARE.
AND WE TRY TO -- HOPEFULLY GET A COUPLE -- COUPLE MORE MONTHS OF DATA AND BE THERE FOR THE QUARTER.
BUT, I MEAN, THEY ARE A GREAT ORGANIZATION, BUT WE ARE TOO.
SO -- BUT WE OFTEN GET COMPARED TO THEM AND WE HAVE TO BATTLE WITH THAT. BUT JUST FOR THIS QUARTER, WE
ARE. >> MAYBE GET A BANNER PUT UP?
>> NO, I WILL TRY TO AVOID. >> SERIOUSLY THOUGH, GREAT JOB ON THE -- ON THE DEBT AND GRANT SCENARIO.
I KNOW THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED WIDELY THAT THAT IS THE -- THAT IS KIND OF THE PROJECTED SCHEME TO DEAL WITH THE FUNDING ON AN ANNUAL BASIS WHILE THE CONSTRUCTION IS MOVING FORWARD.
YOU HAVE PROVIDED PREVIOUSLY A VERY HELPFUL DOCUMENT ON GRANTS THAT WERE COMMITTED AND GRANTS THAT WERE IN PROCESS, ETC.
WOULD IT BE TIME TO UPDATE THAT TO GET THAT CIRCULATED TO IT THE
COMMISSION? >> YES, SIR, IT WOULD.
WE DO PLAN ON GIVING THE COMMISSION AN UPDATE.
FOR THE WASTEWATER PLANT $48 MILLION IN GRANTS WE RECEIVED.
A BIG DEAL. $5.8 MILLION GRANT FOR ELECTRIC GRID RESILIENCY, WHICH IS A FEDERAL GRANT, WHICH COMES WITH A LOT OF STRINGS ATTACHED. BUT -- AND THEN WE HAVE SEPTIC SEWER GRANTS. A COUPLE OF OTHER GRANTS.
WE WILL CORK ON GETTING THOSE UPDATED BUT SOME OF THEM ARE HOT
OFF THE PRESS. >> A VERY HELPFUL DOCUMENT AS WE PROCEED FORWARD REGULATING THAT WITH MORE GOOD NEWS WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMISSION AS WELL.
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> THANK YOU VERY.
WHO IS NEXT. JASON, IS IT YOU?
>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
I AM SUPER EXCITED TO COME BEFORE YOU AND SHARE THEUP DATE THAT THE FPUANET HAS MADE TOWARD THE DEPLOYMENT AND PROCESS OF THE NETWORK IN THE LINCOLN PARK COMMUNITY.
I WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY REGARDING THE PROJECT.
SO THE LINCOLN PARK SMART NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT WAS AN INITIATIVE DEVELOPED IN 2019 TO DEPLOY FIBER TO EVERY PARCEL BETWEEN ORANGE AVENUE, AVENUE D. 7TH STREET AND 14TH STREET AND FREE PUBLIC WI-FI TO FIVE KEY AREAS IN THAT AREA.
THE PROJECT WAS FUND BY A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE FPUA, ALLEGHENY FRANCIS MINISTRIES, CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND ST.
LUCIE COUNTY. THE OVERALL GOAL TO BRIDGE THE DIGITAL DIVIDE AND EQUITY WITHIN THE LINCOLN PARK COMMUNITY.
THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO MAKE A SUBSTANTIAL LONG-TERM IMPACT ON THIS COMMUNITY BY BRINGING IN AN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS GOOD FOR 30 TO 50 YEARS, RIGHT. FIBER-TO-HOME INFRASTRUCTURE.
IT WILL PROVIDE AN AFFORDABLE ULTIMA HIGH-SPEED BROADBAND SERVICE TO RESIDENTS AND CUSTOMERS IN THE AREA.
OFFER A FREE PUBLIC WI-FI TO THE KEY FIVE AREAS.
WE ARE ABLE TO NOW POSITION LINCOLN PARK TO BE SMART NEIGHBORHOOD READY. WE HELP ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOP OF THE BUSINESS BOARD NEARS ALONG AVENUE D AND ORANGE AVENUE.
AND THE BROADBAND ADOPTION RATE CLOSER TO THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY IN SEPTEMBER 20 2023, FPUA COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION OF EVERY PARCEL IN THE BUILD AREA ALLOWING RESIDENTS AND CUSTOMER SUBSCRIBE TO A FIBER NETWORK RELIABLE WITH ULTRA HIGH SPEED AT AN AFFORDABLE RATE.
THANK THE CITY COMMISSION, ALLEGHENY FRANCIS AND ST. LUCIE COUNTY FOR THE INVESTMENT TO BRIDGE THE DIGITAL DIVIDE IN THE COMMUNITY. BECA BECAUSE OF INVESTMENT, THAT FPUANET WILL OFFER ALL FIBER SERVICE FOR RESIDENTS IN THE ZONE AS LOW AS $1 PER MONTH IF THEY QUALIFY FOR THE AFFORDABLE CONNECTIVITY PROGRAM.
ADDITIONALLY NO CONTRACT OR ANY FEES.
THE FPUANET TEAM IS IN THE PROCESS OF DILIGENTLY ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY. WE MET WITH MANY COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND KEY PEOPLE WITHIN THE LINCOLN PARK COMMUNITY TO FIND OUT WHAT THEIR NEEDS -- HOW BEST WE CAN GET OUT THERE AND SPREAD THE WORD REGARDING THIS AMAZING PROJECT AND OPPORTUNITY. IF YOU ARE WATCHING AND YOU ARE INTERESTED, WE WANT YOU -- WE WANT TO KNOW MORE REGARDING THIS PROJECT AND HOW YOU CAN GET FIBER-BASED INTERNET FOR AS LOW AS $1 A MONTH. VISIT OUR WEB SITE.
FPUANET.COM OR CALL 772-468-1697.
OUR TEAM IS COMMITTED TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE QUICK PROCESS TO
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GET YOU QUALIFIED FOR THE QUICK CONNECTIVITY PROGRAM.NOT ONLY BRINGING FIBER TO EVERY PARCEL BUT FREE PUBLIC WI-FI IN THE FIVE LOCATIONS. THE CENTER, PLAZA, THE TRANSIT FACILITY, AVENUE C AND 10TH STREET LINEAR PARK.
THE LINCOLN PARK COMMUNITY CENTER.
THIS IMMEDIATELY HELPED TO BRIDGE A DIGITAL DIVIDE AND EQUITY IN THE LINCOLN PARK COMMUNITY.
OVER THE LAST WEEK 325 UNIQUE DEVICES WERE CONNECTED TO THIS NETWORK THAT COULD HAVE ALLOWED RESIDENTS TO APPLY FOR JOBS, CHILDREN TO LEARN, AND EVEN USE IT FOR ENTERTAINMENT.
ALL THE SITES HAVE SIGNS SHOWING THE PUBLIC HOW TO CONNECT TO THE FREE PUBLIC WI-FI. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN TO THE RIGHT. JUST A FEW STEPS TO FOLLOW TO CONNECT. TO CONNECT TO THE FREE WI-FI, YOU WILL SEARCH FOR THE WI-FI SIGNAL ON YOUR DEVICE.
COLLECT FORT PIERCE PUBLIC WI-FI FROM THE AVAILABLE WI-FI NETWORKS. LAUNCH YOUR BROWNSERS AND AGREE TO TERMS AND USE AND BEGIN YOUR ONLINE EXPERIENCE.
I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME AND THE COMMISSION'S COMMITMENT TO BRIDGE DIGITAL DIVIDE AND BRIDGE DIGITAL HE CAN WITH TEE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANY
QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. >> QUESTIONS OF MR. MITTLER?
COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS PROGRESS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND I HAVE SEEN THE SIGNS AND I AM EAGER TO SEE THE IMPACT THAT THIS WILL HAVE ON OUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE DIGITAL DIVIDE THAT IS THERE.
JUST KIND OF LOOKING AS AN EARLY FORECAST.
I UNDERSTAND THE GRID THAT WE ARE IN.
THE PUBLIC ACCESS PARKS ARE REALLY GOOD WHERE SOME OF OUR YOUNGER PEOPLE -- PARTICULARLY OUR LINCOLN PARK RECREATIONAL CENTER, ETC. YOU HAD A POSITION TO PROVIDE ANY NUMBERS TO THE COMMISSION TOO MAYBE FORECAST HOW MANY HOUSES THIS WOULD BE OR HOW MANY POTENTIAL BUSINESSES THIS WOULD
THE MAP IN FRONT OF YOU SHOWS THE OVERALL ZONE.
THAT INCLUDES ABOUT 550 PARCELS. >> PARCELS.
>> THERE ARE ABOUT 400 OR SO ELECTRIC METERS IN THE AREA AND
HOW WE CONNECT OUR SUBSCRIBERS. >> GOT IT.
>> CURRENTLY TEN CUSTOMERS IN THIS AREA.
ANOTHER INSTALLED TODAY. A FEW WEEKS AGO WE SENT OUT FLYERS TO THE RESIDENTS. WE WILL BE FOLLOWING UP WITH THE BUSINESSES. AND SO AS THOSE GO OUT, WE ARE RECEIVING CALLS. AND WE ARE GOING OUT AND MEETING WITH THE CUSTOMERS, WALKING THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS AND GETTING SIGNED UP. WE ARE GETTING REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK. MANY OF THE INDIVIDUALS ARE WORKING FROM HOME. SO WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO BE
ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT. >> OKAY.
SO ABOUT 550 PARCELS THAT ARE WE ARE IMPACTING RIGHT NOW.
REMIND -- REMIND ME AGAIN, THIS IS KIND OF A PILOT TO SEE HOW THIS GOES, RIGHT, BEFORE WE CONTINUE?
FPUANET, RIGHT, IS A SMART CITY INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER.
WE ARE PROVIDING AND SUPPLYING FIBER ACROSS THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND BONDED MONEY. PART OF THE PROJECT HERE IN THE LINCOLN PARK COMMUNITY WAS TAKING THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND PROVIDING FUNDING TO IT.
SO WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS AN UNIQUE PROJECT.
WE HAVE PRESENTED THIS PROJECT IN HUGHES.
WE HAVE RECEIVED THE CORNERSTONE AWARD FROM COMMUNITY BROADBAND.
PRESENTEDED THIS PROJECT AT THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES, RIGHT.
ST. LUCIE COUNTY THIS A BROADBAND SUMMIT.
THEY ASKED US TO PRESENT. FPUANET IS ONE OF THREE DIFFERENT MUNICIPAL AGENCIES IN THE STATE THAT OFFER BROADBAND TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA. SO IT IS A VERY UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY. AND THERE IS -- I TALKED TO MANY PEOPLE. THERE IS NOT A PROGRAM LIKE THIS. NONE OF THE MUNICIPALITIES AT THE MOMENT IS TARGETING THE HOMES AND NONE OF THEM ARE WORKING WITH THE ACP AND OFFERING, YOU KNOW, THIS TYPE OF DISCOUNT ASSOCIATED WITH -- WITH AN AREA THAT HAS A LOW BROADBAND ADOPTION RATE. SO I -- I BELIEVE THAT BASED ON THE SUCCESS OF THIS PROJECT, AND WITH OUR GREAT GRANT WRITING TEAM AS YOU HEARD MR. CISNEROS TALKING OF THE GRANTS WE HAVE GOTTEN THAT WE WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO FIND MORE FUNDS.
AND WE WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO TAKE SOME OTHER FUNDS AND PUT THEM TOGETHER AND DO ANOTHER PROJECT.
YOU KNOW, TO EX-END MAYBE TO 25TH STREET.
WE ARE WORKING WITH -- GO SHEA AND YOUR I.T. TEAM TO TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, EXTENDING OUR PUBLIC WI-FI PRESENCE.
WE HAVE IT IN THE JETTY PARK. JAYCEE PARK.
DOWNTOWN BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE DOWNTOWN SMART INITIATIVE.
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DOWN THE SQUARE AND THE MANATEE CENTER.STARTING TO SEE THE PRESENCE OF PUBLIC WI-FI INCREASE AND WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND HOW IT WILL IMPACT THE COMMUNITY.
>> GLAD YOU SAID THE LAST PIECE AND THIS IS WHERE WE WANTED TO GO. AS IT WE LOOK AT THE FUTURE PROJECTS, THIS IS GREAT. THIS SPEAKS TO THE FUTURE, RIGHT, OF FORT PIERCE IN DEVELOPMENT.
TO BEIOUSLY THERE ARE SOME PARCELS THAT WE WANT DEVELOPMENT ON. MY CONCERN ALWAYS COMES DOWN TO WE HAVE EXISTING POCKETS OF PEOPLE, STILL, THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THIS. AND I THINK AS WE LOOK TO FUTURE PROJECTS, WE WILL LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD WHERE THE POPULACE OF PEOPLE LIVE WHO DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE INTERNET, RIGHT.
AND GETTING THOSE YOUNG MINDS -- KEEP THEM ON TRACK FOR GRADUATION AND FOR PRODUCTION AND GETTING TO WHERE THEY WANT TO BE -- WHERE WE NEED FOR THEM TO BE AS PRODUCTIVE CITIZENS, I THINK, AS WE LOOK THROUGH THOSE FUTURE PROJECTS, I WILL BE LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE IN CON JUPGSZ WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD PAUSE THEY ARE POPULAR -- THEIR POPULATIONS AND POCKETS OF PEOPLE IN SOME OF THE PUBLIC HOUSING CORE AREAS, ETC.
THAT MAY OR MAY NOT. BUT I THINK WE STILL NEED TO CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT. I APPLAUD THIS.
I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE RESULTS OF THIS.
I AM A BIG SUPPORTER OF THIS. PARTICULARLY COMING TO OUR BUSINESS ZONES HERE ALONG AVENUE D. ORANGE AVENUE WITH GROWTH AND
SPURRING URBAN INFILL. >> THANK YOU.
>> YOU HAVE I CON DAMAGE WAIT YOU.
YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING THIS FOR A LONG TIME AND THE FRUITS OF YOUR LABOR. THE BUSINESS CORRIDOR, AVENUE D ON THIS MAP AND ORANGE AVENUE. WE LOOK AT SITUATIONS WHERE WE DON'T LOOK AT BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET.
ARE WE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. I AM SURE YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER. WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THAT ON THE
NORTHERN SIDE? >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, GREAT QUESTION, RIGHT. SO WHEN YOU BUILD OUT A FIBER-TO-HOME NETWORK, RIGHT. BUT BRING A FEW FEEDER FIBERS IN AND USE OPTICAL SPLIT HE IS TO MULTIPLY THAT FIBER AND CREATE A ZONE, AN AREA. THE CAB CASH MEANT SIZE WORKS WITHIN A CERTAIN ZONE AND CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU DO LOOK AT AREAS THAT ARE GOOD DIVIDING PLACES.
ORANGE AVENUE BEING UNDERGROUND AND AVENUE D BEING UNDERGROUND A GOOD POSITION TO CENTER THOSE AREAS OF ISOLATION.
AT ANY MOMENT, ANY PARCEL SOUTH OF AVENUE D.
THE SOUTH SIDE, NOT THE NORTH SIDE.
AND THE NORTH SIDE OF ORANGE SAFE.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE ARE WORKING ON -- WE HAVE FIBER ON AVENUE E. BRINGING FIBER DOWN TO EXTEND THAT. WE HAVE FIBERS ON MEANS COURT.
NOT MEANS COURT -- SORRY, THE SCHOOL ON DELAWARE.
FINE THEIR GOES IN THAT SCHOOL AND WE LOOK AT PLANNING IN THAT AREA THAT END UP MAKING UP THOSE GAPS.
AND FPUANET IS COMMITTED TO KIND OF TAKING IT AND BUILDING OUT THAT FOOTPRINT WITH SOME OF OUR BONDS SPECIFICALLY DOWN TO THE SOUTH THERE IN THAT BUSINESS CORRIDOR.
>> I APPRECIATE THAT. I SAY THAT PAUSE WE GET RANDOM QUESTIONS. ON THE COMMISSION WE GET E-MAILS. I AM ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF ORANGE AVENUE, HOW COME WE CAN'T GET THE SERVICE.
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A RESPONSE.
IT MAKES SENSE. IT IS INFRASTRUCTURE-RELATED.
SO WHEN WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH AN EDUCATED RESPONSE, IT HELPS. I APPRECIATE THAT.
IT'S TOUGH. IF YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF ORANGE AVENUE AND TRYING TO GET A SERVICE LINE ACROSS OR BUILD THAT INFRASTRUCTURE NETWORK WHETHER IT IS WATER, SEWER, GAS, ELECTRIC, FIBER, IT MAKES SENSE.
WE WILL GET THESE QUESTIONS. I KNOW THEY ARE COMING.
YOU PROBABLY ALREADY HAD THEM. >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS -- ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TO DO PICK AREAS.
WE DON'T JUST DECIDE -- I AM GOING TO BUILD THAT AREA.
RIGHT. WE -- TO BE A SMART CITY.
WE HAVE TO BE A SMART UTILITY AND MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON DATA. ONE OF THE DATA POINTS WE USE THE AGGREGATED DEMAND MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE AND ACCESS THAT THROUGH OUR WEB SITE WHERE YOU WILL PUT IN THE REQUEST.
YOU WOULD SEARCH YOUR ADDRESS AND LOOK AT THIS ON A DAILY BASIS, MY SALES TEAM AND AGGREGATING PEOPLE'S INTEREST.
THE REALITY BECAUSE OF A COMPETITIVE BUSINESS UNIT AND BASED ON SUBSCRIBERS THAT WANT TO CONNECT.
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I BUILD OUT INFRASTRUCTURE TO AN AREA THAT NO ONE CONNECTS, IT NEVER -- THE NETWORK WILL NEVER G GROW. ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN IF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED.IF ON TO OUR WEB SITE AND SEARCH THEIR ADDRESS AND WE LOOK AT EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. WE LOOK AT THE ABILITY TO BUILD.
WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE UTILITY ASSETS.
PARKS THAT NEED TO HAVE FREE PUBLIC WI-FI.
TO GATHER THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER AND SAY LET'S MOVE IN THIS AREA IMMEDIATELY AND ONE OF THE COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGES WE HAVE OF BEING A MUNICIPAL ISP IS THAT WE ARE VERY AGILE AND WE KNOW OUR COMMUNITY. I WOULD ENCOURAGE IF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED TO GO ON TO OUR WEB SITE, WWW.FPUANET.COM AND SEARCH YOUR ADDRESS AND HELP FOR US TO EXPEDITE THE AREA FOR US TO
BUILD INTO. >> IT MAKES SENSE.
AS FOLKS COME IN AND THEY CAN REACH OUT AND IF THEY ARE ON ONE OF THE BOUNDARIES THEY CAN REACH OUT TO YOU FOR A SERVICE LINE.
A BIG BUSINESS DEMANDING HIGH SPEED, OBVIOUSLY IT IS
VERY UNIQUE COMPARED TO OUR TYPICAL UTILITY.
WHEN WE BUILD OUT ELECTRIC. BUILD OUT WATER AND WASTEWATER.
YOU CAN KIND OF GUARANTEE 100% OF PEOPLE WILL TAKE IT.
IN THE INDUSTRY YOU LOOK AT 30 TO 35%.
BUT YOU HAVE TO BUILD TO EVERY PARCEL BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHICH OF THE 30% OF PEOPLE WILL CONNECT.
OUR HOPE AND DESIRE WE WILL BE GETTING 50% OR MORE, BECAUSE OF OUR -- OUR PRICING AND NETWORK AND CUSTOMER SERVICE AND
ANYONE ELSE? COMMISSIONER BRODERICK?
>> OKAY, SO I AM THE LOW-TECH GUY OUT HERE SO MY LINE OF QUESTIONING MAY SEEM REALLY, REALLY RUDIMENTARY.
JEREMIAH, NO CHUCKLNG DOWN THERE.
[LAUGHTER] AND JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY.
WHEN YOU ARE EXPANDING YOUR NETWORK, ARE YOU USING EXISTING -- I GUESS THEY ARE OLD AT&T STRUCTURES .NO? THIS IS ALL NEW? YOU ARE NOT STRINGING WIRES DOWN
THE STREETS ON TELEPHONE POLES? >> YES, WE ARE.
FPUA OWNS THE MAJORITY OF THE POLES.
THAT IS HOW IT DONE. TO RUN A LINE ACROSS THE STREET YOU HAVE THE CAPABILITY AT CERTAIN BREAK POINTS, I AM
IN THE LINCOLN PARK AREA IT BOTH HAS OVERHEAD AND UNDERGROUND.
IT IS SUBSTANTIALLY LESS COST TO RUN ON AN EXISTING POLE LINE IF THERE IS SPACE. TO RUN UNDERGROUND CONDUIT, ESPECIALLY RECENTLY THE COST OF JUST THE DUCT HAS GOTTEN VERY EXCESSIVE IN THE COST OF THE MATE MATERIALS, BUT WE DO BOTH. AND MANY AREAS IS HYBRID.
AND SO WE WORK REALLY CLOSE WITH THE ELECTRIC ENGINEERING GROUP TO MAKE SURE IF A POLE -- IF A POLE LINE IS BEING REDESIGNED OR THE CITY -- WORK WITH MR. ANDREWS AND HIS TEAM.
IF YOU WERE RELOCATING A LINE BECAUSE OF A PROJECT.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE PUT OUR INVESTMENT OUT THERE, WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO BE RELOCATED OR CHANGED BECAUSE THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IS REALLY ROBUST.
AND IT -- IT SHOULD BE THERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
>> AND ABOUT TO BECOME MORE RESILIENT, HE BELIEVE.
ONE FOLLOW-UP QUESTION ON THAT AS WELL.
THESMART CITY INITIATIVE I THINK FROM MY MANY RUDIMENTARY UNDERSTANDING OF IT IS A UNIQUE UNDERTAKING.
AN UNIQUE SITUATION AND I AM NOT LOOKING INTO VENTURE INTO OTHER OPERATIONS OF THE CITY, ETC. BUT THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THAT IS THE CITY MARINA. THE CITY MARINA IS A ENTITY.
DOES ITS DOWNTOWN INITIATIVE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SERVICE TRANSIENT BOATERS SUCH OF SUCH COMING IN TO THE MARINA.
I AM SURE THE MARINA HAS ITS OWN INTERNET CAPABILITY BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOUR SYSTEM IS MORE ROBUST AND MORE -- IT'S GOT MORE OOMP TO IT FOR LACK OF A TECHNICAL TERM.
IS THAT QUESTION, IS THAT PRETTY OFF THE GRID AS FAR AS THE
QUESTION CONCERNS OR MAKE SENSE? >> NO, MAKES PERFECT SENSE.
ME AND DEAN WERE JUST SPEAKING JUST BEFORE THE MEETING ABOUT MOVING THEIR WI-FI -- THEIR WI-FI IS PROVIDED BY ON SPOT.
WE TALKED ABOUT US TAKING OVER THAT WI-FI.
ONE OF THE THINGS THERE ARE COMPLICATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH OFFERING WI-FI TO BOATS. SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO PROVIDING IT IN THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY THAT IS RELIABLE.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO IS PROVIDE THE -- THE BACK HAUL, RIGHT, WHERE CURRENTLY THE NETWORKS ARE CONNECTED TO IS NOT NEARLY COMPARABLE IN RELIABILITY,
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SPEED, AS WE CAN CONNECT THERE. TO WE HAVE FIBER IN THE CITY MARINA. SO WE CAN -- WE ARE WORKING WITH SHEA AND HIS TEAM TO BE ABLE TO TRANSFER THAT OVER TO OUR NETWORK. AND I THINK YOU WILL SEE A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN THAT. .>>THE REASON I ASK THAT QUESTION IS -- THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER.
YOU BRO HE CAN IT DOWN SUCCINCTLY THAT EVEN I CAN DIGEST IT. FOR OUR MARINA TO BE ABLE TO TRACK LARGE MEGAWATT USERS AND THAT TYPE OF THING, THEY WILL REQUIRE THOSE SERVICES. IF WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH THE FPUA ON A LARGER SCALE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A MARKETING PLUS FOR THEIR AFBLTS TO GENERATE REVENUE FROM BOATS THAT HAVE OWNERS THAT REQUIRE SUPER HIGH-SPEED INTERNET FOR BUSINESS OPERATIONS AND THINGS OF THAT NAY COMMUTER.
I AM EXCITED TO HEAR THAT YOU GUYS WILL BE CHATTING ABOUT THAT
TO SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO. >> YES.
WE ARE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH YOUR STAFF.
THAT IS ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES OF HAVING A LOCAL MUNICIPAL ISP, RIGHT. GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE MUNICIPAL STAFF, THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.
AS A SERVICE PROVIDER, OUR FOCUS IS INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO WHAT THE MUNICIPALS, THE CITY, THE COUNTY, SHERIFF AND POLICE, WHAT TYPE OF SERVICES DO YOU NEED, RIGHT.
WE MET MANY TIMES ON PART OF THE LOCAL TECHNOLOGY PLANNING TEAM THAT THE COUNTY IS HOSTING AND TALKING ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF SERVICES DOES THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE NEED.
WHAT TYPE OF SERVICES DOES ST. LUCIE COUNTY NEED AND HOW DO OUR NETWORK PROVIDE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO STAND UP THOSE TYPE OF SERVICES. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
>> THANK YOU. THAT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE.
THANK YOU. >> NOW WE ADD THE PORT TO THAT TOO. THE PORT.
THAT WILL BE REALLY VALUABLE TOO.
>> WE HAVE CONDUIT GOING THAT DIRECTION.
AND WE HAVE IN IF THE PLANNING OF MOVING TOWARD THAT AREA.
AND, AGAIN, FOR US A MAJOR PART OF OUR DEPLOYMENT AND BUSINESS CASE TO BUILD THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.
THAT IS ONE OF OUR STRATEGIC GOALS AS FPUA, THE DOWNTOWN AREA, THE PORT, ALL AREAS TO SPUR ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND DIFFERENTIATE OURSELVES FROM OTHER CITIES.
>> YEAH, INFRASTRUCTURE. ANYTHING ELSE? ANYTHING ELSE? GREAT NEWS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.
WHAT'S NEXT? DANNY RETHERFORD.
>> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS.
>> GOOD MORNING. >> FOR THE RECORD, DANNY RETHERFORD, FORT PIERCE UTILITY AUTHORITY.
I AM REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE THIS MORNING.
I KNOW MR. MIMMS LIKES DETAILS. SO I PUT TOGETHER 30 TO 40 SLIDES THAT YOU GUYS WILL APPRECIATE.
[LAUGHTER] SO THIS IS -- A CAN QUICK UPDATE ON OUR WEATHERIZATION EDUCATION OUTREACH PROGRAM.
THIS IS A FPUA BOARD INITIATIVE. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TO TRY TO GET THIS THING CHANGED FOR A WHILE.
IT IS -- IT IS A PROGRAM -- FOR CUSTOMERS WHO MAY HAVE OLDER HOMES OR INEFFICIENT HOME IN ORDER TO HEL THEM AND REDUCE THE LOAD ON OUR ELECTRIC GRID. WE ARE TYPICALLY ALLOCATED $50,000 TO $75,000 PER YEAR BY FMPA FOR THE PROGRAM.
THESE ARE THE ONLY FUNDS THAT FPUA IS AUTHORIZED TO USE FOR THESE TYPE PROGRAMS. OUR PAST PROGRAMS WERE LARGER AT KEEP, CLUNKY ADMINISTRATIVELY. AND VERY LONG APPLICATIONS AND FOR HOMEOWNERS ONLY WITH A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.
THAT APPROACH IS VERY LIMITING. IN 2023, WE OVERHAULED THE PROGRAM MAKING THING A LITTLE MORE SIMPLE.
REDUCED APPLICATION TO A SINGLE-PAGED WAIVER AND MADE THE PROGRAM AVAILABLE FOR ALL FPUA ELECTRIC CUSTOMERS MEET EGGING A FEW CONDITIONS. THE SCOPE OF CEILING INSULATION ONLY. WHY? BECAUSE ACCORDING OUR RESEARCH IN FLORIDA, THE SINGLE BIGGEST CULPRIT FOR INEFFICIENT POWER USE IS LACK OF INSULATION.
THIS IS -- JUST BELOW THAT WAS OLDER APPLIANCES.
THOSE ARE YOUR TWO BIGGEST DAT APPROACH.
FINDING THE MOST INEFFICIENT HOMES.
THE PROPERTY APPRAISER INFORMATION FOR SQUARE FOOTAGE AND OWN DATA FOR UTILIZATION AND A LIST OF 100 HOMES WITH THE HIGHEST INEFFICIENCY. FROM THAT LIST, JUST 37 HOMES WERE ACCESSIBLE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE FLAT ROOFS.
OF THOSE 37 HOMES, WE WERE ONLY ABLE TO WORK OUT A DEAL WITH SIX. THERE WERE SOME PROBLEMS WITH US. WE WERE -- AT THE TIME WE WERE BATTLING, I BELIEVE, A LOT OF THE SOLAR CALL THAT WERE COMING
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IN. HI, WE ARE WORKING WITH FPUA.WE WEREN'T GETTING THROUGH WITH THE PHONE CALLS.
WASN'T AS EFFECTIVE AS I WOULD LIKE IT TO HAVE BEEN.
WE WOULD HAVE LIKED TO SEE A LOT MORE AND WE WILL ALTER IT A LITTLE MORE. ALTHOUGH THE PROGRAM IS IMPROVING, THERE IS STILL MORE WORK TO DO.
WE NEED TO GET MORE CUSTOMERS IN A SINGLE YEAR MAN IN SIX.
BUT THE GOOD THING IS, THE FUND DON'T DISSIPATE.
THEY ARE THERE. SO WE CAN STILL USE THEM.
>> OF COURSE OUR ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO EACH AS MANY POSSIBLE OPINION. 2024.
WE WOULD LIKE TO APPLY WHAT WE LEARNED IN 2023 AND OPEN THE PROJECT TOLL EVERYONE THAT WE CAN AND KEEP IT AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE. PLAN FOR A FIRST-COME, FIRST-SERVE BASIS. ADMINISTRATION IS A SINGLE ONE-PAGE WAIVER. PROGRAM APPLY TO HOMES WITH LITTLE OR NO INSULATION. CEILING SPACE MUST BE PHYSICALLY ACCESSIBLE BY THE CONTRACTOR. AND YOU HAVE TO BE A FPUA ELECTRIC CUSTOMER. WE BEGIN A COMMUNITY INFORMATIONAL CAMPAIGN IN EARLY 2024 AND CONTINUE THE PROGRAM AS LONG AS FUNDING IS AVAILABLE. IT SHOULD BE NOTED IN ANY GIVEN YEAR, WE CAN ONLY ASSIST CUSTOMERS UNTIL THE FUNDING IS COMPLETED. PROJECT WILL RESUME NEXT FISCAL YEAR START WHERE WE LEFT OFF ON THE LIST.
AS YOU CAN SEE THE PROGRAM IS EVOLVING AND FINDING THE RIGHT FORMULA TO BEST SUIT OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I -- I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR BE HAPPY --
>> I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT YOU ARE TALKING OF A CUSTOMER WHO RENTS. THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
>> SO IN THE PAST PRIOR TO 2023, IT WAS A HOMESTEAD PROGRAM.
YOU HAD TO HAVE HOMESTEAD. YOU HAD TO BE AN OWNER.
WE REALIZE THE CHALLENGES OF THAT.
WE WEREN'T REACHING THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY NEEDED THE HELP IN MANY CASES. WE UNCOUPLED FROM THAT.
THAT WAS KIND OF TIED TO SOME FEDERAL MONEY -- SO UNCOUPLED FROM THE FEDERAL MONEY AND USING THE FMPA MONEY.
AND A SINGLE PAGE WAIVER AND ANYBODY WHO IS A ELECTRIC CUSTOMER AND AT FPUA AND WE CAN GET TO YOUR HOME AND CEILING,
AND YOU QUALIFY. >> YOU CAN'T HAVE A FLAT ROOF.
>> WE NEED TO GET UP THERE AND PHYSICALLY PUT THE INSULATION IN. IF WE CAN DO THAT AND YOU ARE A FPUA ELECTRIC COMPANY AND WE CAN WORK IT OUT AND YOU ARE ABLE
TO SIGN THE WAIVER. >> QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?
>> SO THIS IS MY PASSION PROJECT GOING BACK FOUR YEARS.
WE GOT WAS THE FIRST THING I TACKLED PAUSE NOT UNDERSTOOD.
NOT WIDELY KNOWN. AND THANK YOU FOR MAKING SOME ADJUSTMENTS. I THINK THE BIGGEST ONE WAS NOT OWNING A HOME, RIGHT. I THINK THE NEXT WE HAVE TO OBVIOUSLY TACKLE IS THE FLAT ROOF THING, RIGHT.
BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOKED AT -- WE LOOKED AT SOME OF THE NUMBERS OF THE MORE INEFFICIENT HOMES AND PEOPLE RUNNING WALL UNIT AIR CONDITIONERS KEEPING THEM COOL IN THE SUMMER.
THAT WAS THE ISSUE. THEY HAD A FLAT ROOF AND NO WAY TO PUT INSULATION TO HELP WITH THAT.
SO SOMEHOW BETWEEN FLAT ROOFS AND INEFFICIENT AIR CONDITIONS, WE STILL HAVE A PROBLEM, RIGHT. SO DOVE WANT TO FIRST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE -- WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE TO SHIFT -- TO TRY TO MEET WHERE PEOPLE ARE. I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
I SEE THAT UP FRONT. I SEE THAT STRUCTURALLY IN FORT PIERCE, WE HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM. AND I HAVE TALKED TO MANY OF THE RESIDENTS. AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS AND THOSE HOUSES THAT ARE THERE WERE JUST THERE AND BUILD THERE AND STILL STURDY BUT INEFFICIENT AND STILL $500 AND $600 ELECTRIC BILLS AND TRYING TO KEEP COOL IN THE SUMMERS.
I GET THAT. SO I GUESS AT SOME POINT, WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE TO BRAINSTORM.
I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TODAY CERTAINLY.
YOU GUYS HAVE A COMMUNITY BOARD OVER THERE THAT WE STARTED AND THE MORE WE CAN ENGAGE WITH THEM TO GET THAT WORD OUT TO PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO DON'T HAVE FLAT ROOFS TO COME AND TOO I TO PROGRAM AND THAT IS DOWN TO A ONE-PAGE APPLICATION.
AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO OWN THE HOUSE.
WE CAN CERTAINLY SEE MORE THAN SIX.
SO I AM CERTAINLY -- YOU KNOW, I AM HAPPY TO HEAR THIS.
I WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE A PART OF THAT PROCESS OF GETTING THAT INFORMATION OUT. BUT YOUR OWN COMMUNITY -- WHAT DID WE CALL THAT BOARD AGAIN THAT WE PUT TOGETHER THERE?
>> ADVISORY BOARD. >> ADVISORY BOARD.
GREAT PEOPLE ON THE ADVISORY BOARD THAT CAN HELP GET THE WORD OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, ETC. ARE, ETC.
SO WE STILL HAVE $ 5,000 THAT WE PUT TOWARD THIS PROGRAM,
CURRENTLY -- WE HIT A NEW FISCAL YEAR.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS IN IT FOR THE NEW FISCAL YEAR, BUT LASTLY HAD ABOUT $50,000. AND WE SPENT ABOUT $15,000.
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ONLY DOING TOP -- ONLY INSULATION.THAT IS WHAT WE FOUND? >> YES, SIR.
>> AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO RE-EVALUATE THAT AGAIN.
I DON'T KNOW. IT MAKES RATIONALE SENSE OF WHAT YOU SAID, BUT SOMEHOW BETWEEN INEFFICIENT UNITS AND, ETC., WE ARE RUNNING INTO THIS ISSUE. AND I DON'T KNOW ANY SOLUTION RIGHT NOW THAT WILL HELP US RIGHT OFF THE TOP.
BUT I DO WANT TO FIRST ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO TRY TO MEET US TO HELP WITH THIS ISSUE.
I THINK, COMMISSION, WE -- LARGELY DISTRICT 1, WE HAVE A LOT OF INEFFICIENT HOMES THERE AND SOMETHING I WAS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT AND STILL VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT AND THANK YOU FOR COMING FORWARD MR. CISNEROS AND YOUR GROUP BECAUSE WE HAVE FUNDS THAT GO UNEXHAUSTED AND UNSPENT AND PEOPLE'S BILLS ARE CONTINUING TO GO UP. AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE THIS OUT.
I DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION TODAY, BUT I JUST AT LEAST WANT TO -- TO GET THIS OUT. AND KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TRYING SOURCE VERY BEST TO HELP THE CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITY WHO REALLY, REALLY NEED HELP. SO.
>> YES, COMMISSIONER GAINES. >> YES, GOOD MORNING.
>> YES, SIR. >> JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON. THANK YOU FOR THE PROJECT, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW -- AND I AGREE WITH HIM.
I AM SITTING THERE THINKING FLOAT ROOFS.
AND I AM DRIVING -- IN MY HEAD, I AM DRIVING AROUND THE THAT COMMUNITY AND I AM LIKE, OKAY. I GUESS WHEN THEY WERE BUILT, THAT MUST HAVE BEEN THE THING TO DO TO DO THE FLAT ROOFS.
WE CAN BRAINSTORM AND DO THAT. BUT I HAVE A QUESTION.
BECAUSE NOW IT IS ANYBODY WHO HAS THE ELECTRIC COMING TO THE HOUSE, CORRECT. AND MY CONCERN IS, ARE WE -- HOW ARE WE -- HOW DO I PUT THIS SO I DON'T GET MYSELF IN TROUBLE, MADAM MAYOR. FOR OUR OWNER WHO DON'T LIVE HERE, WHO BUY SOME OF THESE OLD PROPERTIES TO, GET THEIR SERVICE UP. UPGRADE THEIR PROPERTY.
AND THEN UPGRADE OR INCREASE THE RENT TO PEOPLE WHO ALREADY CAN'T AFFORD THE RENT THEY ARE PAYING. SO HAVE WE RUN ACROSS THAT SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE -- WE SEE OWNERS COMING IN FROM OUTSIDE -- I UNDERSTAND WE WANT TO -- YOU KNOW, MAKE THE HOUSE MORE EFFICIENT, BUT I AM JUST CURIOUS TO SEE, YOU KNOW, IS THERE ANY WAY WE ARE, YOU KNOW, PROTECTING SOME OF THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE THERE, WHO MAY CALL YOU, AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T OWN THE HOUSE, BUT HERE IT IS. YOU GET WITH THE -- WITH THE OWNER OF THE HOUSE. YOU PUT THE INSULATION IN.
AND THEN EVERYTHING THAT IS EFFICIENT UNTIL THE OWNER SAYS I CAN RAISE MY RENT TO -- SO SOME MORE MONEY.
HAVE WE RUN INTO THAT SITUATION? IF NOT, LET'S BE ON THE LOOK OUT FOR IT. BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THE PROCESS -- THE PROGRESS TO BE GOING TO A POINT WHETHER THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN THERE FOREVER CAN NO LONGER BE THERE AND BRING SOMEBODY ELSE INTO THE COMMUNITY OR JUST BECAUSE NOW THEY HAVE THIS SITUATION AND THEY CAN CHARGE MORE RENT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE SEEN IT.
IF WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT. IF NOT, LET'S JUST -- DON'T KNOW HOW TO SOLVE IT. BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO DO TOO MANY THINGS. BUT I JUST GOT A CONCERN NOW WITH -- WITH JUST BEING -- NOT OWNERS BUT BEING SOMEONE CALLED AND SAY, HEY, I HAVE BEEN LIVING HERE AND FOR THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE -- WE HAVE RESIDENTS IN IS DISTRICT 1, AND COMMISSIONER JOHNSON CAN CONFIRM IT, RENTING PROPERTIES FOR 34 YEARS. SO, IT'S LIKE, PEOPLE THINK IT IS THEIR HOUSE, BUT THEY ARE ACTUALLY RENTING 30, 40 YEARS.
THEY COME IN AND GET THIS. AND NOW THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY COME IN AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, NOW THAT THE HOUSE IS UPGRADED, LET'S -- I AM GOING TO JACK -- I AM GOING TO JACK THE RENT UP. JUST WANT TO NOT -- NOT WANT TO STOP THE PROGRAM. I LOVE THE PROGRAM.
JUST BEING CAUTIOUS HERE PAUSE THERE ARE SOME -- SOME OWNERS OUT THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF US ON THAT ONE.
ASKING HAVE WE SEEN IT. IF NOT, LET'S BE CAUTIUS WHEN
I CAN SAY THAT WE HAVE NOT COME ACROSS THAT YET.
BUT THERE, AGAIN, WE HAD SIX PEOPLE RESPOND TO US POSITIVELY LAST YEAR. SO ONE OF THE CHALLENGES LAST YEAR WAS WE WERE USING A DATA-DRIVEN APPROACH.
WE WERE DEVELOPING IT OURSELVES. TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE AND GET AFTER THE CUSTOMERS. WE THOUGHT WE WOULD HAVE A LITTLE BETTER PARTICIPATION THAN WE DID, WHICH DIDN'T REALLY ALLOW US TO DO ANY MASS NOTIFICATION OR ADVERTISING FOR THE PROGRAM, BECAUSE IF YOU CAN IMAGINE, IF WE MASS ADVERTISE FOR THAT PROGRAM AND IT WAS DATA DRIVEN, WE WOULD BE SETTING OURSELVES UP TO TELL THE RESIDENTS.
WE HAVE A PROGRAM AND I AM SORRY, YOU DON'T QUALIFY RIGHT
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NOW. THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GO MEET WITH ALL THE CHURCHES AND THE COMMUNITY.WE WERE TRYING -- THE DATA-DRIVEN APPROACH WHICH I THINK IS A REALLY GOOD APPROACH BUT HAS SOME PITFALLS.
WE ARE RETOOLING, RIGHT, FIRST-FIRST-SERVE SEEMS REALLY FAIR. WE WILL MAKE SURE WE HIT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS AWARE.
ONE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE OF THE APPLIANCES OR THE FLAT ROOFS. IN THIS -- IN THIS PLAN THAT WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO DO WITH 2024, BLOWN-IN CEILING INSULATION REQUEST WITH THE NUMBERS WE ARE LOOKING AT WITH THE CONTRACTOR AND THE SIZE WE ARE SEEING ON THE HOMES GIVES US ABOUT 30 TO 35 HOMES ANNUALLY IF I CAN GET PARTICIPATION AND SPEND ALL THE MONEY, RIGHT. MY PROBLEM RIGHT NOW IS NOT A BUDGET BUT A SPENDING PROBLEM. I CAN'T SPEND THE MONEY.
IT IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE. IT IS STAYING THERE.
I CAN SPEND IT. I CAN SPEND IT ON THESE ROOFS.
IF I CAN SPEND 30 AND 40 ROOFS OR CEILINGS FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE INSULATION. THAT IS A WIN.
IF I HAVE A PROGRAM THAT HAS THE -- THE SECOND SKIN ON THE TOP OF THE ROOF AND YOU HAVE TO REROOF, THAT IS TWO OR THREE PROJECTS A YEAR. RIGHT.
SO THAT IS THE CHALLENGE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE WAY -- THAT THIS PROJECT IS CURRENTLY FUNDED, THAT IT COULD ACTUALLY DO A LOT WITH -- WITH A REROOF. AND A SECOND SKIN WITH INSULATION. THAT IS -- IT IS EXPENSIVE.
WE ALREADY DO AS PART OF THIS FUND.
WHEN I SAY $50,000 TO $75,000 A YEAR.
I NEVER KNOW IN A GIVEN YEAR HOW MUCH I AM GOING TO GET FROM THIS FUND, BECAUSE THIS FUND IS SHARED WITH OUR GAS DEPARTMENT WHO USE A PORTION OF THIS FUND WITH DEVELOPERS FOR INCENTIVES FOR GAS WATER HEATERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO ANY GIVEN YEAR, WE COULD HAVE A BIG DEVELOPMENT IN AND WILL MESS WITH HOW MUCH MONEY I WILL HAVE TO GO FOR ROOFS.
SO MEASURING AND WEIGHING ALL OF THIS, IT JUST SEEMS -- SEEMS FAIR WITH THE FUNDING WE HAVE AND THE THINGS WE HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW, KNOWING THAT CEILING INSULATION IS THE BIGGEST ENERGY THIEF IN FLORIDA, ESPECIALLY DURING THE HOT MONTHS.
A PERFECT MARRIAGE. I THINK THIS YEAR -- I WOULD LOVE TO EXPAND THE PROBABLY AND FIND MORE FUNDING AND DO GRANTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. FIRST GET THE FORMULA RIGHT.
IF I CAN'T GET THE FORMULA RIGHT, I COULD HAVE THE NUMBER OF MONEY AND WON'T BE ABLE TO DO IT.
LET'S MEET THE COMMUNITY WITH WHERE THEY ARE.
NOT FIGHT WITH THE SOLAR FOLKS WHO WANT TO PUT A SOLAR FARM IN YOUR BACK YARD THIS YEAR. ONCE WE DO THAT, WE CAN MAKE
THAT SUCCESSFUL THIS YEAR. >> I ALSO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE FPUA BOARD IS VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
COMMITTED TO PROMOTE IT. AND THE CHAIR IS DR. BENNETT.
AND SHE'S VERY -- SHE WANTS TO BE PERSONALLY INVOLVED IN -- IN CONVINCING PEOPLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS.
SO WE CAN -- WE CAN HELP AS MANY CUSTOMERS AS POSSIBLE.
AND I AM REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE EVER BEEN ABLE TO HELP A RENT WE ARE THEIR ELECTRICITY. THE FIRST TIME.
AND THAT IS HUGE, I THINK. AND IT MAY NOT SEEM TO BE ENOUGH YET, BUT IT IS A GREAT FIRST STEP.
AND THE BOARD -- OUR FPUA BOARD IS VERY EXCITED.
>> ABSOLUTELY SHOULD BE APPLAUDED .THAT WAS THE BIGGEST HURDLE. THE NEXT THING WE NEED IS TO TARGET NON-FLAT ROOF AT THIS POINT.
NOTHING WE CAN FEASIBLE DO. THE STEPS -- OUR STEPS THIS YEAR ARE NONFLAT ROOF HOUSES THAT HAVE -- THAT HAVE THIS TYPE OF ELECTRIC SERVICE. THAT IS A BIG THING WE NEED TO FIRST OF ALL NEED TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF PEOPLE THAT THEY HEAR RIGHT IN FRONT, RIGHT. FORGET THE REST -- IF YOU HAVE A FLAT ROOF, YOU WILL NOT QUALIFY FOR THIS PROGRAM -- YET.
YET. BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY TO REALLY DO THIS IS -- RE-- WHAT COULD YOU CALL IT.
>> REROOF. IT'S JUST CALLED A REROOF.
REROOF WITH INSULATION. >> GOT IT.
THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK.
>> COUPLE OF QUICK COMMENTS. I SHARE YOUR CONCERNS THERE.
THE FLAT ROOF SCENARIO IS A NONSTARTER.
THAT IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE, GUYS.
YOU GO INTO TEARING OFF ROOFS, STRUCTURAL ISSUES AND ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMATIC STUFF THAT FPU DOES NOT WANT TO BE INVOLVED WITH. ANOTHER PATH OF SUCCESS TO DEAL WITH THOSE STRUCTURES AND THE MOST EFFICIENT UNIT YOU THINK HAVE IN ANY RESIDENCE IS THE WALL AIR CONDITIONING UNIT.
MASSIVE INEFFICIENCIES. THE MINI SPLITS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE AVAILABLE HAVE THEIR -- THEIR -- THEIR EFFICIENCIES HAVE INCREASED MASSIVELY TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH TWO SPLIT SYSTEMS, ETC. THE RETROFITS ON THOSE ARE RELATIVELY SIMPLE. FPUA IS IN THE POWER BUSINESS
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AND YOU KNOW IF THERE IS ADEQUATE POWER TO DO THAT.BUT THE REROOF SITUATION IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, GUYS.
IT JUST NOT. THIS METH TO DOING.
DRIVE THROUGH THE CITY AND OLDER APARTMENT BUILDINGS.
THEY HAVE WHAT YOU KNOW AS WALL SHAKERS HANGING OUT OF THE WALLS VERSUS MINI SPLITS. SOMETHING YOU MAY WANT TO INVESTIGATE AS A SPLIT IN THIS PROGRAM MOVING FORWARD TO DO SOME ANALYSIS WORK THERE BASED ON -- AND THE COST OF THOSE UNITS HAVE COME DOWN HUGELY. MUCH MORE IN LINE WITH STANDARD MINI -- OR SPLIT SYSTEMS THAT ARE IN MOST, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL HOMES. SO THAT IS SOMETHING YOU MAY WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT TO SEE IF THERE IS ANY ECONOMICS OF SAVINGS THERE TO THE HOMEOWNERS, ETC.
THAT MAY BE A WAY TO GET AROUND THAT FLAT ROOF ISSUE AND PROVIDE THE COST SAVINGS THAT THE RENTER OR HOMEOWNER, ETC. IS TRYING TO GENERATE TO FILL THAT VOID, BECAUSE I GUESS YOU ARE INDICATING THAT THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT MIX OF FLAT ROOF PROPERTIES THAT ARE OUT THERE, THAT WILL BE UNSERVICEABLE IN
THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM. >> UNFORTUNATELY, YES.
>> YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT. JUST A SUGGESTION.
SOMETHING YOU MAY WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
>> YES, SIR. >> THE ONLY -- I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. APPLIANCES.
YOU DIDN'T MENTION APPLIANCES. PART OF THE PROGRAM?
>> IT IS ON THE GAS SIDE, RIGHT. THE GAS WATER HEATERS.
ON THE GAS SIDE OF THINGS THAT COMES FROM THE SAME FUND FROM FMPA, A CONSERVATION FUND. CRAIG WORKS WITH DEVELOPERS AS THEY COME THROUGH TO GET GAS INTO THOSE DEVELOPMENTS AND PART OF WHAT HE DOES, I BELIEVE -- I AM NOT CRAIG, I BELIEVE OF PART OF WHAT HE DOES IS OFFER GAS WATER HEATERS AS AN INCENTIVE.
WORK AS ANNUAL INCLUSIVE DEAL. >> WORKS TO GET THE ELECTRIC
LOAD OFF THE SYSTEM. >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT NONE OF US WANT IS A BROWNOUT AND BLACKOUT OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE. SO THE OTHER QUESTION WAS JUST REGARDING THE NUMBERS. SO YOU SAID 37 QUALIFIED.
I THINK SIX OF THEM WERE PART OF THE PROGRAM.
WAS IT DIFFICULT -- FIRST QUESTION IS, RIGHT.
ALL THOSE HOMEOWNERS OR WERE THEY RENTERS.
AND WAS IT DIFFICULT GETTING THE OWNER IF THEY WERE IN A RENTAL
SITUATION TO ACCEPT 9 WORK? >> SURE, OF THE SIX, I BELIEVE THREE WERE HOMEOWNERS AND THREE WERE RENTERS.
50/50. APPEAR AND NO PROBLEM GETTING THE OWNERS. WE ALLOWED ALLOWING THE REPRESENTERS TO DO THE FOOTWORK. HERE IS THE WAIVER.
WE NEED YOUR INFORMATION AS THE CONTACT TO LET US IN THE HOME.
BUT WE NEED THE HOMEOWNER TO LET US GET IN HERE.
I CAN'T SPEAK HOW HARD IT WAS FOR THEM ON THAT THEIR END.
IT DIDN'T FEEL LIKE IT WAS DIFFICULT.
IT HAPPENED QUICKLY AND WE GOT THE RIGHT INFORMATION.
SO -- FOR THE FOLKS THAT TRUSTED US AND SAID THIS IS A GOOD DEAL.
FREE FOR REAL? WE WERE LIKE, FREE FOR REAL.
AN EASY PROCESS. >> GOOD TO HEAR.
BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT IS DIFFICULT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE AN OUTAGE, SOMETIMES HARD TO GET HOLD OF THE PROPERTY OWNER.
SURE. >> IN LIEU OF THE RENTERS.
>> ONE THING TO KNOW, THE RENTERS KNOW HOW TO GET A HOLD OF THEM TO PAY THEIR BILLS. WE WERE ASKED BY OUR OWN BOARD, ANY DATA TO SHOW THAT THE CEILING INSULATION IS DOING WHAT YOU SAID. WELL, NO, WE HAVEN'T EVEN MADE A CUP OF MONTHS YET. DATA -- GOOD DATA THAT IS RELIABLE WILL TAKE US A COUPLE OF YEARS.
SOME YEARS ARE COOLER. WE NEED A COUPLE OF YEARS OF DATA TO SIGH WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE.
BUT THE EMPIRICAL DATA WHICH IS TRIED AND TRUE DEGREED INFORMATION SAYS IF YOU ARE GOING TO GO AFTER A SINGLE
THING, GO AFTER INSULATION. >> MAKES SENSE.
>> MAKES SENSE TOO IN FLORIDA. >> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
I THINK THIS IS A BIG POSITIVE MOVE AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU
[b. Little Jim Bait and Tackle Discussion]
APPRECIATE YOU GIVING US THE TIME.>> THANK YOU. >> OKAY, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE LITTLE JIM BAIT AND TACKLE DISCUSSION.
>> MR. MIMMS. >> YES, MA'AM, MADAM MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSION. MR. REALS WILL BE MY DESIGNATED CLICKER AS WE GO THROUGH SOME INFORMATION.
WE HAVE OUR CITY ENGINEER WHO IS HERE.
AND WE HAVE OUR DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.
AND THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING HAS A HISTORICAL DESIGNATION INFORMATION AND, I GUESS, EXPERIENCE.
WE ALSO HAVE DEAN KUPERCHECK. OUR LIAISON OF ALL OF THE RESTAURANTS AND BAIT AND TACKLE SHOPS THROUGHOUT THE FORT PIERCE. AND WE HAVE THE BUSINESS REPRESENTATIVE, THE TENANT, THAT IS ALSO HERE.
I COULDN'T TACTED DONNA LAST WEEK AND SHE WAS HAPPY TO BE HERE TO LISTEN AND POSSIBLY PARTICIPATE IN THIS DISCUSSION.
SO, MIKE, IF YOU CAN GO TO THE ACTUAL CITY COMMISSION AGENDA, AND YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO PULL IT UP IN THE BACK-UP PRESENTATION. IN YOUR BACK-UP PRESENTATION, MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSIONERS, WE THE LITTLE JIM BAIT AND TACKLE
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AREA. WE HAVE THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION APPLICATION, THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION PROCEDURE, THE LITTLE JIM LEASE AND EXTENSION AND LITTLE JIM SURVEY AS WELL AS THE PRESENTATION THAT WE WILL GIVE TO YOU TODAY.A VERY SIMPLE PRESENTATION, BUT IT DOES CONTAIN VERY HELPFUL INFORMATION. AS YOU ALL KNOW, ROUGHLY ABOUT FIVE OR SIX MEETINGS AGO -- OR FIVE OR SIX MONTHS AGO, YOU ASKED US TO DO RESEARCH AND DUE DILIGENCE WITH REGARD TO THIS 350ES OF PROPERTY. PREVIOUS TO CONSIDERING ANY TYPE OF SOLICITATION FOR ADVERTISEMENT FOR THE UTILIZATION OF THE PROPERTY KNOWING THAT THE TEN-YEAR EXTENSION SIGNED MARCH 1, 2015 WILL EXPIRE MARCH 1, 2025.
NOW IS THE TIME TO COMPLETE OUR DUE DILIGENCE, A UNDERSTAND WHAT IS IN FRONT OF US AND MOVE FORWARD WITH DIRECTION AND INPUT HOPEFULLY WE RECEIVE FROM THE BOARD.
PROCEED, MR. REALS. AS YOU SEE -- THE UPDATE WILL INCLUDE THE SURVEY, TITLE SEARCH ROMP AND HISTORIC DESIGNATION PROCESS. PROCEED.
OF THE SURVEY. WE DID -- THIS IS THE LATEST ITERATION OF THE SURVEY. WE HAD A -- A NUMEROUS AMOUNT OF SURVEYS. MR. ANDREWS TOLD ME ABOUT 35 SURVEYS TAKEN PLACE ON THE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
THIS IS THE LATEST AND GREATEST HAND THIS MAKES IT THE MOST ACCURATE. AS YOU SEE, THE SURVEY CONTAINS THE PREMISE THAT OUR CURRENT LEASE IS CONFINED TO.
AND ALSO THE DOCKS. THE FIXED DOCKS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE LEASE. NOW WE KNOW THE BOUNDARIES.
WE UNDERSTAND WITH -- WHAT PARAMETERS.
HE SHOULD BE WORKING WITH IN THE FUTURE.
PLEASE PROCEED. THE TITLE SEARCH REPORT, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, WE HAVE TWO PARCELS.
ONE IS ASSOCIATED WITH A -- WITH A IS SOVEREIGN SUBMERGED LAND EASEMENT, AND ONE IS THE LOCATION OF THE LEASE FOR THE LITTLE JIM BRIDGE FISH CAMP PROPERTY.
BOTH HAVE A RESTRICTION OF LAND USE FOR PUBLIC OR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES ONLY. BASICALLY -- BASICALLY THAT IS SAYING THAT THERE IS REVERSIONARY CLAUSES FOR BOTH THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF STATE OF FLORIDA.
IF THESE WERE NOT USED FOR PUBLIC OR MUNICIPAL PURPOSE.
IF THERE WAS ANY TYPE OF BID SOLICITATION OR CHANGE IN USE THAT DID DID NOT HAVE PUBLIC OR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE REVERSIONARY CLAUSE REMOVED.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THE FDEP, BUREAU OF LANDS SAID WE WILL NOT GIVE YOU ANY INFORMATION AT THIS TIME CITY OF FORT PIERCE.
WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE A CONCEPTUAL LAYOUT WHAT YOU HAVE MOVING FORWARD AND AT AT THIS TIME WE WILL TELL YOU HOW MUCH YOU WILL PAY US TO HAVE THIS REMOVED.
>> KIND OF LIKE LAST TIME. >> BINGO.
THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT. CAN'T GIVE YOU ANY INFORMATION BUT YOU KNOW THE FORMULA. THE STATE WILL TAKE THE CONSENSUAL PLAN THAT WE BRING TO THEM AND CREATE AN APPRAISAL OF THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN LESS WHAT THE PROPERTY IS VALUED TO TODAY. THE DIFFERENCE WILL BE AMOUNT THAT THE STATE WILL SAY WE NEED THAT FOR CONSIDERATION FOR REMOVAL OF THIS REVERSIONARY CLAUSE.
PLEASE PROCEED. HISTORIC DESIGNATION.
A NICE PRETTY PICTURE THERE. I THINK THAT -- IS THAT A PONTIAC OR FIFTH AVENUE. AN OLD-SCHOOL CAR.
OLD-SCHOOL PICTURE. IN OUR RESEARCH, WE DID NOT FIND ANY NATIONALLY HISTORIC INFORMATION THAT WILL MAKE IT SUITABLE FOR A NATIONAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION; HOWEVER, LOCALLY AND IN THIS REGION AND IN THIS COMMUNITY, IT -- THIS LOCATION HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.
AND IT WILL DEFINITELY QUALIFY FOR HISTORIC DESIGNATION.
AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO -- AGAIN, IF WOULD YOU LIKE TO, IT WOULD BE AT YOUR DISCRETION, YOU WOULD GIVE OUR CITY STAFF THE DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD. AS YOU SEE, THE PROCESS IS FAIRLY SIMPLE. THERE IS AN APPLICATION, DESIGNATION REPORT. NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC CONSIDERATION BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD AND ULTIMATELY CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL BY THE CITY COMMISSION.
FOR THOSE, THAT IS THE PROCESS. MOVING FORWARD.
THAT IS BASICALLY IT. THERE IS NOT MUCH ET TO DISCUSS WITH REGARD TO OUR DUE DILIGENCE.
YOU HAVE ALL OF THE ATTACHMENTS. AND AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD JUST
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LIKE TO KNOW ANY INPUT, FEEDBACK OR INFORMATION THAT YOU ALL HAVE OR CONSIDERATIONS FOR US AS WE MOVE FORWARD TOWARD THE EXPIRATION OF THE LEASE WHICH WILL BE MARCH 1, 2025.>> SO I HAVE A QUESTION. THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION FROM
>> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN GOING FORWARD FOR THAT PROPERTY, IN
TERMS OF CHANGES, IN TERMS OF -- >> IF IT IS -- WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, HOLD ON. LET'S GET THE EXPERT UP HERE.
>> YEAH, RIGHT, RIGHT. >> ACT LIKE I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. DR. FREEMAN, COME UP HERE AND TELL US WHAT THIS MEANS FOR THE CITY IF THIS PROPERTY DESIGNATED
HISTORIC. >> HERE IS THE DIAGNOSIS.
ONCE YOU DESIGNATED AS A LOCAL HISTORIC BUILDING, THERE IS A TABLE WITHIN THE CODE AND CERTAIN OPERATIONS OR CERTAIN CHANGES TO THE BUILDING WILL EITHER BE ADMINISTRATIVELY OR THROUGH REVIEW BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD.
YOU HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE WHICH CHANGES THE ELEVATION OR SOME MATERIAL OF THE BUILDING. THEN WOULD YOU COME BACK TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD AND THEY WILL REVIEW THAT.
IF IT IS A MINOR THING, MAYBE A WINDOW CHANGEOUT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. A SPECIFIC LIST OF ACTIVITIES IN THE CODE THAT WILL SAY -- MORE THAN LIKELY YOU WILL GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOME ADVICE FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ABOUT WHAT YOU DO IF YOU CHANGE THE APPEARANCE OF THE BUILDING.
>> BUT IS IT THE BUILDING THAT IS IS DECLARED HISTORIC OR THE
PROPERTY? >> IT CAN BE A COMBINATION.
THERE MAY BE RESTRICTIONS ON THE TYPE OF ENCLOSURES YOU HAVE ON THE PROPERTY. THE BUILDING ITSELF IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE ACTUAL PROPERTY ITSELF, AND IT WILL BE
ENCOMPASSED AS A WHOLE. >> OKAY.
>> YOU SEE WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HISTORIC DISTRICTS, WE CONTROL FENCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
IN THIS CASE I THINK IT WILL MORE LIKELY BE 9 THE% THE BUILDING THAT WILL BE LOOKED AT. -- 99% THE BUILDING THAT WILL BE LOOKED AT. THAT WILL BE UP TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD AND THE CITY COMMISSION AS IT IS DESIGNATED.
MAY BE THINGS ON THE PROPERTY THAT YOU WANT TO INCLUDE IN THAT
COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, GO
>> SO -- THAT BRINGS UP A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS? MY MIND. I AM IN AGREEANCE WE CAN LOOK AT THE PROCESS AND DESIGNATE EITHER THE PROPERTY OR THE STRUCTURE.
THAT IS OKAY SO WE ARE IN A FLOOD ZONE, I AM SURE.
I AM MOST POSITIVE IT IS IN A FLOOD ZONE, DESIGNATED BY THE FEDERAL AGENCIES. SO IT SEEMS LIKE AS THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING, IT WILL BE IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO LOOK AT THE PARAMETERS OF DOING ANY KIND OF IMPROVEMENTS AND/ORALITIES CASES --ALITIES RATIONS -- I KNEW THAT WAS THE WRONG WORD.
I AM LIKE, MAN, NOT THE RIGHT WORD, ALTERCATION.
>> COULD BE ALTERCATION, I GUESS.
[LAUGHTER] >> WE WILL HELP UP OUR PANTS, LET'S PUTS IT THAT WAY FOR THE FLOODS.
SO -- I AM JUST THINKING L LOGISTICALLY.
I AM THINKING OF STEPS OF THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE BUILDING.
IF IT IS SAN ELECTRICAL UPGRADE. IF IT IS A WINDOW CHANGE OUT.
YOU MENTIONED IT. IT MAKES SENSE THAT WE SHOULD ENHANCE, PROTECT THE STRUCTURE DURING THE PROCESS OR RUNNING PARALLEL TO ANY DESIGNATION. BECAUSE ONE THING BY DON'T APPRECIATE IN MOST OF MY LIFE OUTSIDE OF THIS CITY HALL IS THE LAYERS OF GOVERNMENT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO PUT A ROOF ON YOUR HOUSE, RIGHT. OR WHATEVER IT IS.
DO I THINK IT IS SMART? I AM NOT SAYING IT IS NOT SMART, BUT I AM SAYING I HAVE CHALLENGES THAT.
AND I WANT TO AVOID ALTERCATIONS.
[LAUGHTER] SO I AM THINKING AS OWNER OF THE BUILDING STRATEGICALLY TO MAKE IT -- TO MAKE IT MAKE SENSE THAT WE GO THROUGH PROCESSES. YES, SIR?
>> JUST TO RESPOND TO THAT. OUR DIRECTOR OF BUILDING IS OUR RESILIENCE SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER AND ISSUED THE PROCESS FOR FLOOD MITIGATION OF THAT SITE AND OTHER FLOOD ZONES.
LONG TEDIOUS PROCESS AND DONNA WAS VERY UPSET WITH US, BUT WE DID HAVE THAT APPROVED. THE PLANS ARE APPROVED AND NOW WE ARE SEARCHING FOR A CONTRACTOR TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FLOOD MITIGATION PLAN. WE HAVE FUNDING.
WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
SO IT IS JUST A MATTER OF IDENTIFYING THE CONTRACTOR AND OUR DIRECTOR OF BUILDING WILL BE THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THAT
NEW INFORMATION. KIND OF WHERE I WAS GOING.
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I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT QUESTION NEXT.IN STAY DIGS TO THAT, ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON RELATED TO SEPTIC SEWER CONVERSION.
I AM ASSUMING TO -- BASED ON THE SURVEY -- I KNOW IT IS NOT HISTORIC SO MR. FREEMAN IS NOT GOING TO ENGAGE IN THIS QUESTION --
>> IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THAT. >> I AM ASSUMING THAT WE ARE GOING TO EITHER WORK OUT SOME DISCUSSIONSES WITH OUR PARTNER WHICH IS OUR FDOT AND/OR KEEP IMPROVEMENTS FOR OUR SEWAGE SYSTEM ON THIS PARCEL. WHAT IS OUR PLANS.
>> I BELIEVE SO. MR. ANDREWS, YOU CAN COME UP SIR? OUR OTHER LOCAL EXPERT.
THE OTHER DOCTOR. DR. ANDREWS TO TALK TO US OF OUR
SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM. >> YES.
>> COME ON DOWN. >> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, I WAS ON THE PHONE THIS MORNING WITH OUR CONSULTANT WITH REGARD TO THE PERMITTING THROUGH D.E.P. FOR THIS.
WE HAVE BEEN IN PERMITTING FOR OVER A YEAR NOW AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE A PERMIT. A PERMISSION FROM THE DEP FOR THE SARN FAIRY PORTION OF IT. WE DO HAVE THE PERMIT FROM THE D.E.P. AND THE SUBMERGED LANDS TO PUT A CONDUIT BENEATH THE RIVER. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE STILL AT TOO ANSWER YOUR ONE QUESTION. WE HAVE SOLVED EVERYTHING BY MOVING EVERYTHING TO THE PROPERTY AS DEPICT BY THIS SURVEY. WE WERE GOING TO PICK UP FROM THE REST ROOM FACILITY. WE HAVE ELIMINATED THAT CONNECTION BECAUSE IT WASES IN DISPUTE WHOSE PROPERTY THAT IS EVERYTHING FOR THE LIFT STATION AND THE PIT IS LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY AND WILL REMAIN THERE. WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS.
THE LAST ESTIMATE IS THREE TO FOUR MONTHS.
>> BEFORE APPROVAL? SO WE HAVE ONE ARM OF DEP THAT HS PERMITTED THE LIFT STATION AND PUMP STATION.
WE DON'T HAVE THE OTHER ARM OF DEP SAYING YOU CAN DIRECTIONAL DRILL THE PIPE ACROSS THE WATERWAY UNDERNEATH.
OKAY. WE WOULD RATHER DO IT THAT WAY THAN PAYING A PIPE ON THE BRIDGE TO GET OVER TO THE OTHER --
>> I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THAT BECAUSE D.O.T. HAS ALWAYS BEEN A
STUMBLING BLOCK. >> LONG TERM IT SEEMS MORE EXPENSIVE. WE CHANGE THE BRIDGE, WE REDO THE PIPE ONCE AGAIN AND I DON'T LIKE DOING THINGS TWICE.
ALL RIGHT. WE NEED TO GET ACROSS THE OTHER ARM OF D.E.P. WHICH SEEMS LIKE IT WILL BE IN ALL OF OUR BEST INTERESTS TO GET THIS PIPE APPROVED SO WE CAN PUT IT IN THE GROUND. OKAY.
SO -- OKAY. SO WHAT ABOUT THE PARCEL TO -- THIS -- NO, I AM NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
THIS IS THE PARCEL UNDER THE LEASE, CORRECT?
>> YES, SIR. >> THAT'S WHERE I WANT TO STOP.
THANK YOU. >> HE IS TRYING TO COMPLICATE
THINGS. >> I THINK I KNOW WHERE YOU ARE
GOING WITH THAT. >> YEAH, YEAH.
>> I AM GOING TO FOLLOW YOUR LEAD AND STAY AWAY FROM THAT.
THAT 35-FOOTER OVER THERE IS KIND OF CUT IN HALF BY THE SURVEY. HISTORIC PRESERVATION DESIGNATION IS A VERY UNIQUE TOPIC.
I HAD THE PLEASURE OF SERVING ON THAT BOARD FOR -- FOREVER.
AND I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS SUCCINCTLY.
COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON'S COMMENTARY IS CORRECT.
RESILIENCY IS NOW PART OF THE FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION. SO SIX OR SEVEN YEARS LOOK, YOU SIMPLY COULDN'T PUT IMPACT GLASS WINDOWS IN.
YOU COULDN'T. SO -- THAT HAS CHANGED WITH, YOU KNOW, ROOFING CAPABILITY AND WINDOW INSTALLATION TO CREATE RESILIENCY TO CORRECT THESE HISTORIC SITES.
NOW I UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF THE SEPARATION BETWEEN A NATIONAL DESIGNATION VERSUS A LOCAL DESIGNATION.
ONE OF THE COMMENTS I USED TO MAKE REGULARLY AT THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETINGS IS, BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR.
SECURING A HISTORICAL DESIGNATION WHILE IT IS A GREAT FEATURE, IT CREATES A LAUNDRY LIST OF ISSUES AND
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COMMISSIONER JJ. JOHNSON WAS GOING DOWN THAT PATH AND THE PERFECT EXAMPLE IS ANY CHANGES TO THE SITE WILL NOW PROCEDURALLY HAVE TO GO THROUGH PLANNING, HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD, ETC., IF THERE IS A DISPUTE AT THAT LEVEL, IT GETS KICKED UP TO THE COMMISSION ULTIMATELY, BUT A PROS IN PLACE THAT IS NOT OVERLY BURDENSOME BUT CHECKS AND BALANCES.YOU ASK FOR THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION.
NOW YOU NEED TO LIVE TO THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION THAT IS IT KIND OF THE LINKAGE THAT I BELIEVE IS CRITICAL.
AS FAR AS THE SITE WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, WARRANTS HISTORICAL DESIGNATION. HOWEVER -- AND SPOIFR THAT.
THAT IS WHERE I WANT IT TO GO. BUT THE "BUT" CLAUSE HERE.
ONCE IT IS HISTORICAL, IT IS PROTECTED INFINITUM.
SO THE NEXT COMMISSION THAT IS UP HERE WILL SAY, GEE, WHAT DID THOSE GUYS DO BACK IN 2024 THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE ABLE TO UNRAVEL THAT, BUT I SUPPORT THAT.
AND THE ICONIC USE OF THIS SITE IS SYMBOL MATTIC OF CITY OF FORT PIERCE. SO UNIQUE AND REFLECTIVE OF THE CITY ITSELF, SO THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION HAVE STRENGTHS.
I SUPPORT THOSE STRENGTHS, ESPECIALLY IN THIS INSTANCE, A CITY-OWNED ASSET AND PROTECT THAT PROPERTY AS A CITY-OWNED ASPECT AND NOT BEING PUT OFF A RFP TO BUILD CONDOS ON.
THAT IS A GREAT MOVE. ONE QUESTION I DID HAVE FOR OUR CITY MANAGER IS, THE DOCK REVENUE VERSUS THE RESTAURANT REVENUE. THAT REVENUE WAS ALL CURRENTLY INCORPORATED INTO THE TENANT'S LEASE THAT ALL REVENUE GENERATED FROM THE SITE FROM THE RESTAURANT AND THE DOCK IS THE BENEFIT TO THE TENANT, THAT'S CORRECT?
>> WELL, I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO GET INTO THE BENEFIT, BUT WE HAVE AN AMOUNT THAT WE RECEIVE AND THAT AMOUNT IS RIGHT OVER, I THINK, ABOUT $2,000 PER MONTH.
I DON'T KNOW THE -- THE SPECIFIC NUMBER, BUT --
>> I AM NOT ASKING FOR SPECIFICS.
I AM SAYING THEY ARE ALLOWED TO RENT THE DOCKS AND RECEIVE THE
REVENUE FROM IT. >> I BELIEVE SO, IT YES, SIR.
YES. THEY THEN, IN TURN, SUBMIT A MONTHLY AMOUNT TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.
>> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
COMMISSIONER GAINES. >> I AM ALWAYS THE ONE TO TALK ABOUT, I GUESS, THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM THAT NO ONE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT. MY QUESTION -- AND I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH THE HISTORICAL. IF WE ARE GOING TO GO THAT ROUTE, LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. BECAUSE YOU KNOW ALL OF US THAT GREW UP IN FORT PIERCE UNDERSTAND WHAT LITTLE JIM MEANS TO EVERYBODY WHO GREW UP HERE. MY QUESTION IS, WHAT DOES THAT DO IF WE FILL OUT THAT APPLICATION AND START THAT PRO PROCESS, WHAT DOES THAT DO WITH THE CURRENT TENANT WE HAVE. BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE A TENANT.
WE ARE UNDER CONTRACT WITH A TENANT.
I KNOW IT EXPIRES 2025? >> YES, SIR.
>> WHAT DOES THAT DO WITH THE CURRENT TENANT.
THAT'S MY CONCERN. ANYTHING, NOTHING, OR DOES IT -- DOES IT -- DOES IT STOP THEM FROM TRYING TO RENEW I? OR IS THAT SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO AT THAT TIME.
I AM JUST SAYING, DO WE HAVE TO PUT IT BACK OUT, AFTER HE WE -- IF IT BECOMES HISTORICAL, RIGHT, WE GET THAT DESIGNATION.
IN 2025, DO WE HAVE TO PUT IT BACK OUT FOR -- I GUESS, WHAT YOU CALL IT -- RAINFALLRFP? RFP?
>> MR. MIMMS IS WAITING TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
>> YES. THE CURRENT TENANT WILL NOT BE AFFECTED AT THIS TIME. THE CURRENT TENANT HAS A BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP THROUGH CITY OF FORT PIERCE THROUGH MARCH 1, 2025. ALL LEASE EXTENSION OPPORTUNITIES EXPIRE AT THAT TIME.
IT IS -- IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT REMOVE FORWARD AHEAD OF THAT DATE PREPARE FOR THE NEXT TENANT AND WHEN YOU ALL MOVE FINAL APPROVAL IF THAT IS DEEMED SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO DO.
IF THE PROPERTY OR BUILDING OR A PORTION OF THE BUILDING IS THEN DEEMED TO BE HISTORICAL, THEN THEY WILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALL PERMITTING FOR HISTORIC PROPERTIES AS FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FOR THAT PORTION OF WHATEVER IS DEEMED TO BE HISTO HISTORICAL.
>> IF THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION HAPPENS BEFORE THE RFP EXPIRES, THEY WILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THAT.
>> YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.
>> COMMISSIONER GAINES, THE OTHER THING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO
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ME CONTRACTUALLY IS IN MOST, IF NOT ALL OF CITY CONTRACTS WITH LEASE AGREEMENT, THE LANGUAGE IN THE CONTRACT -- I LOOKED FOR THIS YEARS AGO WHEN I FIRST GOT SWORN IN WAS -- THE LANGUAGE ABOUT ALTERATIONS. RIGHT.WITH -- WITH THE BUILDING STRUCTURE AND THE TENANT HAS TO BE APPROVED THROUGH THE CITY AND CITY COMMISSION BEFORE ANYTHING IS DONE. DOESN'T MATTER IF IT IS HISTHFOR CAL OR NOT, IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE
COMMISSION. >> YOU ASK QUESTIONS, AND YOU
GET ANSWERS. >> GLAD YOU SAID THAT BECAUSE ANY IMPROVEMENT HALLS TO GO THROUGH THE CITY.
>> OKAY. >> COMMISSIONER BROAD ROCK.
>> FOLLOW-UP QUESTION TO COMMISSIONER GAINES' COMMENTS.
LEASE -- THE LEASE CURRENT LEASE EXTENSION RUNS THROUGH MARCH OF
>> GIVE OR TAKE. IF -- AND MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE HISTORICAL DESIGNATION HAS SGL ZERO IMPACT ON CONTINUING OPERATIONS.
WITH THAT DATA YEAR AND A HALF OUT OR LESS THAN A YEAR AND A HALF OUT, ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT WE HAVE TO SPIN A RFP TO GET THAT IN CIRCULATION BECAUSE TAKES TIME TO GET IN THE AREA.
AND YOU ARE LOOK FOR A RECOMMENDATION FROM THIS COMMISSION TO SUGGEST THAT WE WANT TO KEEP THIS AS AN OPERATING ENTITY, RESTAURANT AND DOCKS.
ARE YOU LOOK TO GET IN THAT MINUTIA TODAY?
>> AT THIS POINT I WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU WITH ALL THE NECESSARY BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THE PROPERTY AND ALLOW YOU TO DETERMINE IF YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD FOR THE ADVERTISEMENT OF THE RFP FOR A SPECIFIC USE. IF WOULD YOU LIKE TO CHANGE TYPE UTILIZATION. ALL OF IS COMPLETELY IN YOUR DISCRETION. AND I AM LOOKING AT INPUT WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE. BECAUSE THE LAST TIME WE MET, I DID NOT RECEIVE THAT SPECIFIC INPUT.
AND YOU ALL WANTED US TO DO THE RESEARCH AS TO WHAT WAS NEEDED PREVIOUS TO IT THE RFP. AT THIS POINT, UP FOR YOU ALL TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND DETERMINE WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE.
>> ONE FOLLOW-UP, THEN, ON THAT. THE RESEARCH THAT STAFF HAS DONE IS THE -- THE PACKAGE IS EXCELLENT.
WE GET THE DATA NOW. AND THAT WAS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. AND, OF COURSE, JACK'S REPORT, COMING IN ON THAT -- COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON'S CONCERN CAN MOVE FORWARD; HOWEVER, WITH 16 MONTHS OUT IS NOT A HECK OF A LOT OF TIME TO BE TALKING COMMERCIAL LEASING, ETC. I AM THINKING THAT YOU NEED DETERMINATIONS NOW TO GET THIS GOING.
IS THAT A FEAR ASSESSMENT? >> YES, SIR, THAT WOULD HELP, YES, SIR. AT LEAST.
>> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE. YOU ARE LOOKING TO WALK OUT TODAY SAYING THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO.
>> WE NEED A GOOD NINE MONTHS AHEAD OF TIME IN THE EXPIRATION OF THE LEASE SO WE HAVE EVERYTHING FORMULATED THE WAY YOU WANT TO, AND WE CAN IDENTIFY AN END USER THAT CAN CARRY FORWARD THE STRATEGIC GOALS OF OUR CITY.
>> COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, THAT BRING UP AND I AM READY TO MOVE FORWARD.
A NUMBER OF REASONS. ADVERTISE THE RFP.
BRING IN THE IDEAS, A LEGALS AGREEMENT, PURCHASE AGREEMENT, WHATEVER IT IS, THE PURPOSE OF THE RFP.
BRING US THE IDEAS OF THE PUBLIC -- THE PRIVATE SECTOR FOR A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITI. SO SECONDED TO THAT IS THING WE SHOULD START NOW. ONCE YOU ADVERTISE, THEN WE CAN HAVE PUBLIC MEET WITH CITY STAFF THAT SAYS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING.
DESIGNATE THE PROPERTY AS HISTORIC OR THE BUILDING AS HISTORIC AND GOING TO IMPROVE THE SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM AND WHERE THE LOCATION OF THE SANITARY LIFT STATION IS GOING TO BE LOCATED. IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO PARKING THERE ARE IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO WORK AROUND. IF YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BUILDING, IF YOU ARE GOING TO CHANGE THE COLOR OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING, HERE ARE THE CONDITIONS YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING. THAT IS GOING TO TAKE SIX MONTHS IN ITSELF TO ADVERTISE, GET FOLKS CALLING CITY HALL, SAYING I WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS. I AM GOING TO SUBMIT.
WHEN ARE YOU -- WHEN ARE YOU HAVING A PUBLIC MEETING SO I CAN SIT DOWN AND ASK CITY STAFF QUESTIONS, PAUSE IT IS SUE PEEK IN, RIGHT. THIS IS LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN ALL THE 9RFPS 2007 EVER DONE. A PLAN IN PLACE TO TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THE ITEMS WE NEED TO CAKE CARE OF ON OUR HOUSE KEEPING SIDE. WHEN IT IS SET TO GO, I AM SEEING A YEAR AGO TODAY SITTING IN ONE OF OUR FIRST PUBLIC MEETINGS AS A COMMISSION SAYING, ALL RIGHT, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO
PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA. >> QUESTION, COMMISSIONER
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JOHNSON ON THAT. YOU MENTIONED RFP FOR LEASE ORPOTENTIALLY SALE. >> WE JUST CREATE THE LANGUAGE.
TYPICALLY IN OUR RFP. OPEN SLATE.
YOU COME IN WITH YOUR BLANK CANVAS AND YOU SAY WHAT DO YOU
PROPOSE AS A PROPOSER. >> THIS INSTANCE, JUST MY SENSE OF IT, LOOKING TO PROTECT THIS ASSET FOR THE CITY MOVING FORWARD, MY PREFERENCE IS I WANT TO REMAIN -- THE CITY, REMAIN AS THE PROPERTY OWNER, OF THE LANDLORD OF THIS, SO WE HAVE ULTIMATE CONTROL. THIS THING SPINS OUT INTO PRIVATE HAND POTENTIALLY, SOMEBODY WILL COME WITH THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION TO BUILD CONDOS.
I WILL PUT IT RIGHT OUT THERE. THAT IS MY CONCERN.
HISTORIC PRESERVATION CONTINUED CONTROL OVER THE CITY COMMISSION WRAPS THIS THING IN THE ENVELOPE PROVE TEXAS LONG TERM.
THE REASON I BROUGHT THIS UP TO ASK THE QUESTION.
SPENDING IT OUT FOR RFP FOR LEASE.
IN THE OPERATING DESIGNS THAT CURRENTLY EXIST.
MY THOUGHT PROCESS ON IT. >> I DON'T DISAGREE.
STRUCTURE WITH MISS HEDGES AND MR. MIMMS. THIS IS WHAT WE WANT. I AM GOOD WITH THAT.
>> I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. >> WE HAVE TO STRUCTURE
WELL, YEAH, I WAS WAIT ON THIS PIECE, RIGHT, BECAUSE I CAUGHT
>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I PERKED MY EARS EARLIER WAS THE INFORMATION REPORTED FROM THE -- FROM THE -- THE D.E.P. IN TALLAHASSEE ON THE REVERSIONARY CLAUSES, AND GETTING IN A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE ALREADY GONE ONCE AND LEARNED A LESSON THAT WE HAVE SUBMERGED LAND RIGHTS -- THEY DO.
AND I HEARD YOU SAY SOMETHING THAT THIS -- THIS -- BASED ON THEIR STATUTE OR HOWEVER THEY STATED SHOULD REMAIN ACCESSIBLE TO PUBLIC, ETC. ANYTHING SHORT OF LEASING AND PUTTING IN AN ENTITY THAT WILL BE CONTROL OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FORT PIERCE GUARANTEE ACCESS TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND THE PURCHASE OF THIS PROJECT A PIECE OF LAND FLOOR A SITUATION THAT WE CAN BE LOOKING AT MILLIONS WHAT THEY WANT TO CHARGE FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, RIGHT.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS CLEAR.
BECAUSE I HEARD THAT EARLIER, RIGHT.
>> I WOULD DEFINITELY SUGGEST IF THERE IS ANY TYPE OF CHANGE OF USE THAT REMOVES THE PUBLIC OR MUNICIPAL PURPOSE, THAT WE ROLL THAT INTO THE CONTRACT OR AGREEMENT WHEREBY THE TENANT, THE NEW BUSINESS, OR THE OPERATOR, DEVELOPER IS RESPONSIBLE -- COMPLETELY -- 100% RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT COST
IF WE WERE GOING TO DO THAT. IMPLORE IN AGREEMENT WITH MY COLLEAGUE HERE OF STARTING THE PROCESS OF LEASING AND THEN CONDITION USE WHERE -- I AM FINE WITH THAT.
I AM GLAD WE ARE ADDRESSING THE SANITARY ISSUE.
I THINK THAT BASS THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT, YOU WHEN WE HAD DISCUSSIONS OF THIS AND WHO IS RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT.
I THINK WE HAVE COME TO THE DETERMINATION WE WILL TAKE THAT ON AND ESPECIALLY IF WE ARE GOING TO MAINTAIN IT.
I AM FINE WITH ALL THAT AT THIS POINT.
>> COMMISSIONER GAINES AND THEN I WANT TO TALK A FEW.
GO AHEAD. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, MY BAD.
I ALWAYS ASK THESE QUESTIONS AND START THESE DISCUSSIONS.
BUT THIS IS WHAT I AM HEARING AND I AM GOING BACK TO SOMETHING THAT COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON ALWAYS SAID.
I AM GOING TO GO BACK TO THAT LITTLE PIECE OF PROPERTY WE DPD GOT.
AND YOU SAY YOU DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT A PARKING LOT.
YOU KNOW WHERE I AM GOING. WE HAVE A CHANCE AS A COMMISSION TO SECURE IN MY WORDS, ANOTHER PIECE OF FORT PIERCE HISTORY.
I THINK IT IS OUR DUTY TO SECURE IT BECAUSE, I, TOO, DON'T WANT TO SEE CONDOS THERE. ANY WEEKEND NIGHT, YOU GO AND YOU CAN TELL THEY ARE HAVING A GOOD TIME.
A LOCAL HISTORICAL SITE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS.
IF YOU SAY WHERE DID YOU LEARN HOW TO GO FISHING, I AM PRETTY SURE EVERYBODY -- ME AND CURTIS AND NICK'S GENERATION WILL SAY, SOMEHOW WE WERE ON THE LITTLE JIM BRIDGE NOT TO CATCH A CATFISH BUT CATCH A FISH. AN AREA THAT MEANS A LOT TO THE PEOPLE OF FORT PIERCE. AND WE HAVE A DUTY, YOU KNOW, AS A COMMISSION TO HOLD ON TO SOME OF OOUR GEMS THAT WE HAVE LEFT.
I LOVE THE HISTORICAL. AND I TYPICALLY ASK THE QUESTIONS AND GET STIRRED UP. AND I APOLOGIZE MONDAY MORNING.
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BUT I WANT TO SEE THIS AREA PROTECTED.AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AS ANOTHER GEM OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.
AND COMMISSIONER. CURTIS JOHNSON, COMING TOBACCO.
REVERT -- AND I HEARD OUT THE CITY MANAGER SAID HE DIDN'T PUT MILLIONS ON IT AND EMPHASIZED WILL COME BACK TO WRITE UP A CHECK. AND THAT NOT YOUR WORDS, BUT WHAT THE STATE BASICALLY SAID AND I DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THERE AND PUT TAX PAPERS ON THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN DOWN THAT ROUTE BEFORE. IF I CAN AVOID THAT AND DO ANYTHING POSSIBLE TO KEEP THIS LITTLE PIECE OF PROPERTY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND PUBLIC USE, THAT IS WHAT I THINK.
AND IF WE CAN GET A HISTORICAL DESIGNATION.
IT IS BETTER FOR ALL OF US IN FORT PIERCE AND WE CONTROL IT,
AND WE GO FORWARD. >> THANK YOU.
YEAH, I -- WHAT I AM HEARING IS WE ARE INTERESTED IN DOING THE RFP AND MAKING IT PRETTY OPEN-ENDED.
AND MOST OF US ARE NOT INTERESTED IN SELLING, BUT THAT IS JST TODAY AND I ALSO THINK THAT WE ARE -- I AM CONCERNED -- AND I KNOW DIRECTION ON THIS. IF WE ARE DECIDING ON A RFP TODAY. AT SOME POINT, A CONE OF SILENCE TIME PERIOD AND A TIME PERIOD WHERE WE CAN'T BE DISCUSSING THIS, RIGHT. AND I KIND OF WANT TO KNOW WHEN
THAT TIME PERIOD STARTS. >> SORRY, MADAM MAYOR.
SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU. THE TIME STARTS WHEN THE RFP HAS
BEEN ADVERTISED. >> ALL RIGHT, ADVERTISED.
BUILDING UP TO IT WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSIONS.
AT SOME POINT, BECAUSE THAT IS A REAL ESSENCE OF FAIRNESS OF THE WAY THIS PROCESS WORKS. AND I AM ALSO HEARING WE ARE INTERESTED IN PURSUING THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION.
AND WITH -- WITH THE -- I THINK WE ALL OUGHT TO REALIZE THAT ONCE THAT IS THERE, I WAS LISTENING TO COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. THAT HAS -- THAT HAS STRINGS ATTACHED. SO EVERYBODY HAS TO UNDERSTAND THAT ONCE THAT IS THERE, THAT IS IN PLACE FOREVER.
COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. >> THAT IS CLEAR.
I WANT TO GO BACK TO ONE OF YOUR PRIOR COMMENTS.
YOU INDICATED THAT THERE WAS A CONSENSUS ON PUT IT OUT FOR
LEASE OR FOR SALE. >> OR OPEN-ENDED.
YOU DON'T WANT TO PUT THE SALE ON?
>> NO, I DON'T. I THINK -- I JUST THINK OPENING UP THAT PANDORA'S BOX. WHAT IS THE POINT.
IF THE CONCLUSION IS NOT TO SELL THE ASSET AND DEAL WITH THE STATE REVERSIONARY, WHY PUT IT IN A RFP AND CLOUD THE DISCUSSION. I AM SUGGESTING MORE OF A RIGHTFUL APPROACH TO SAY, WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE THIS AS IT CURRENTLY EXIST OS ARE SOME CLOSE FACSIMILE OF THERE, VERSUS GETTING INTO -- IT IS IRRELEVANT TO ME WHAT THAT PROPERTY IS WORTH ON THE OWNERSHIP MARKET.
IT SIMPLY IS NOT RELEVANT IN THAT DISCUSSION.
IF COMMISSIONER GAINES' THEORY IS THAT THE COMMISSION IS LOOKING TO SUPPORT THE OPERATION AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS INTO THE FUTURE. I AM JUST NOT INCLINED TO GO THE SALE ROUTE. THE LEASE ROUTE.
HOWEVER, IF THE SALE ROUTE IS PROTECTED THAT YOU NEED TO MAINTAIN CURRENT OPERATION, I JUST ANY THAT CANDIDLY, I THINK THE CITY COMMISSION AS A LANDLORD HAS ULTIMATE CONTROL.
IF THAT PROPERTY REMAINS IN CITY INVENTORY.
WE CONTROL ITS DESTINY. PERIOD.
NOT A PARTY IN THE MIDDLE THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH.
WE CONTINUE IN THE LEASE FORMAT, WE ARE THE ULTIMATE LANDLORD HERE AND HAVE COMPLETE DISCRETION OVER BEHAVIOR COMES UP AT ANY POINT IN TIME. NOT A THIRD PARTY WE ARE DEALING WITH. THAT IS MY CONCERN.
>> I THINK THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHERS THAT AGREE WITH THAT.
I DON'T KNOW, COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON.
ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? >> I AM.
>> I HAVE MORE COMMENTS AND I WILL WAIT.
>> I AM JUST TRYING TO WRAP THIS UP.
IF YOU HAVE MORE COMMENTS, GO AHEAD WITH YOUR COMMENTS.
>> SO IF IT WILL ALL -- I AGREE WITH THE LEASE OPTION.
I REALLY DO. WE CONTROL OUR DESTINY.
RIGHT. I ALWAYS TALK OF THE OTHER PARAMETERS BECAUSE MOST OF ALL OF OUR RFPS GIVE LATITUDE.
USUALLY DO NOT CREATE RFPS TYPICALLY.
WE HAVE DONE IT IN A FEW CASES AND I UNDERSTAND THE CASES WE HAVE DONE IT. LISTEN, SOME PEOPLE IN THE WORLD
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THAT HAVE GRANDIOSE IDEAS. NOW THAT WE HAVE DIALED IN ON THE PARCEL SPECIFICALLY. WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT DIALED IN TOO, TOO WELL OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS OR WHATEVER IT IS.WE DIDN'T IF NOW WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.
>> NOW WE HAVE IT. SO THERE ARE MANY OPTIONS TO CONSIDER WITH THAT. IN ADDITION TO -- YOU HERE IS MY ONLY BIT OF HESITATION, RESERVATION.
WITH WE ARE TO GO THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION ROUTE.
WE HAVE, ALL OF US AS TAXPAYERS, WILL, RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY EXPENSE RELATED TO THAT DESIGNATION.
WE LOOK AT OTHER STRUCTURES DESIGNATED AS HISTORICAL, ON THE BURDEN OF THE TAXPAYER TO PAY FOR IT.
>> IS ST. ANA STATION. >> 10TH AVENUE AND THE MONEY WE INVEST INTO THAT. I AM NOT SAYING IT IS A PAD THING, BUT THE TAXPAYERS ARE BEARING THAT BURDEN.
WHEN OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN TAKE OVER THIS I ASK, THOSE ARE THE ONES I WANT TO LEAVE THEM ON A GOOD FRONT.
THAT'S ALL. LEAVE THEM IN A GOOD POSITION TO HANDLE ALL SITUATIONS THAT CAN BE THROWN AT THEM, HAS IT ALL.
>> COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON, MY RESPONSE FROM A COMMERCIAL LEASING PERSPECTIVE. AND WE DEAL WITH THESE TYPE OF SCENARIOS. BUT THAT BURDEN CAN BE SHIFTED TO THE TENANT. IN THE RFP DICTATE THAT IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SITE OTHER THAN THINGS WE ARE SPECIFICALLY UNDERTAKING WASTEWATER TREATMENT AND THAT SORT OF ANYTHING WILL BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE TENANT SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE LANDLORD WHICH IS THE CITY COMMISSION.
WE SHIFT THAT BURDEN AND IF A DETERMINATION IS MADE OF A SITE-SPECIFIC ISSUE OR SOMETHING OUTSIDE THE NORM WEIGH INTO THAT DISCUSSION GO THAT SITUATION IS TO ARISE.
WE SEE THAT REGULARLY IN OUR OFFICE.
AND TO MAKE THE BURDEN CLEAR IN THE LEASE THAT THESE IMPROVEMENTS TENANT RESPONSIBILITY SUBJECT TO STITCH APPROVAL. WE HAVE A GOOD PROTECTION TO AVOID THE TAXPAYERS FOR IMPROVEMENT.
CITY OWNED SITE. WE ARE THE LANDLORD.
THE TENANT HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY AND SIGNING A TRIPLE LEASE SAYING YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN INSURANCE. IN THIS CASE THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE, THESE TYPE OF THINGS WILL BE SHIFTED WITH THE BURDEN.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT STRUCTURED THAT WAY.
>> IF WE DO NOT HAVE A LEASEHOLDER, WE ARE RESPONSIBLE.
WE OWN THE ROOF. AT THE END OF THE DAY.
WE EXPECT FIND A CONTRACT, NO ONE WANTS TO COME SEE US, ALL OF A SUDDEN THE BURDEN IS ON WHOEVER SITS ON THIS DAIS IN THE FUTURE. OTHER COMMENT ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, YOU GET TO CLOSE THE DOOR AND NEGOTIATE.
THIS IS?THE PUBLIC QUORUM AND SITTING A THE THIS TABLE LIKE THIS. AND A LITTLE DIFFERNT STRATEGY THAN COMMERCIAL LEASES. WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THAT UNCOMFORTABLE NEGOTIATING BETWEEN US AND THE PODIUM BETWEEN FIVE OF US. AND THAT IS THE ONLY OTHER DIFFERENCE. BUT I FULLY RESPECT AND
UNDERSTAND IT. >> I THINK WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE AND IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT. OTHER, THE CONE OF SILENCE.
I WANT TO GET MILLS MISS HEDGES TO WEIGH IN, MAYBE NOT TODAY.
STRAT FIRES IF WE PUT THAT IN THERE, MAKE IT IS BLACK AND WHITE AND ALWAYS ASSUMED TO ME I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND WE ARE ON THE SIDE COMING IN.
AND IT SAYS RIGHT HERE ALREADY YOU SHALL NOT.
>> ABS GI AGREE WITH YOU, BLACK WHIT.
I WOULD LIKE FOR -- WE KNOW IT BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE CITY DON'T KNOW IT AND TRYING TO CONTACT US AND TRYING TO.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR AND FAIR TO EVERYBODY AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO. DO YOU WANT MISS HEDGES TO TALK NOW? ANYBODY TO SAY, MISS HEDGES.
>> WE WILL EVENTUALLY CRAFT IT. >> WE CAN DISCUSS LATER, YES,
I UNDERSTAND THAT. COMMISSIONER GAINES -- AT ONE POINT YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING.
COMMISSIONER BRODERICK AND COMMISSIONER JOHNSON GET GOING
AND I CAN'T -- >> MADAM MAYOR, I THINK WE ARE -- WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE HERE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER N H- OKAY.
WHEN YOU BROUGHT UP TAXPAYERS, RIGHT.
I GOT IT. NOW I AM SITTING HERE THINKING, ALL RIGHT, I KNOW WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO AND I KNOW WHAT I WANT TO DO, BUT THAT'S ME. BUT WHAT MY COMMISSIONER HAT ON, DO I OWE AN OBLIGATION TO TAXPAYERS TO HAVE AN OPEN-ENDED -- TO HAVE AN OPEN RFP. YOU SEE WHAT I AM SAYING.
I AM JUST THINKING BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH I WANT TO CONTINUE -- I
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DON'T WANT THE CONDOS THERE BUT PEOPLE TO REPRESENT ME WHO SAY SOMEBODY WHO COMES IN AND OFFERS THE CITY BLANKED TEE-BLANK TO BENEFIT THE CITY, SOMETHING WE ALSO CAN SAY -- AT A TIME WE CAN SAY, NO, THAT IS NOT WHAT WE WANT.BECAUSE WE HAVE THE FINAL DECISION.
IF THAT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD DO JUST TO SEE I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER WITH THAT. IF WE BROUGHT IN PRESIDENT TAXPAYERS AND TO PUT IT ON THE LEASE, ON WHATEVER TENANT.
WE PUT TOO MUCH ON THE TENANT, THEN US AGAIN AND WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING. SO IT GOES BACK TO THE TAXPAYERS. AND THEN I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, OKAY, I COULD HAVE PROTECTED THE TAXPAYERS BY DOING THIS. HE THREW ME A CUPP CURVE -- A GOOD CURVEBALL EARLY MONDAY MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.
I KNOW WHERE MY HEART IS. UP KNOW WHERE MY HEART IS, AND WHAT I WANT TO SEE. BECAUSE I AM FROM FORT PIERCE AND I KNOW WHAT THAT AREA MEANS FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IN FORT PIERCE. BUT I HAVE TO TAKE OFF THE ARNOLD GAINES HAT AND PUT ON THE COMMISSIONER'S HAT.
GOOD POINT, MR. JOHNSON AND FINAL POINT.
>> MR. MIMMS WANT TO CHIME IN. >> I DON'T THINK THAT IS YOUR
FINAL REPORT. >> I AM DONE, I AM DONE.
>> JUST TO RESPOND THE RFP AS IT IS DRAFTED AND ADVERTISED IS A GUIDE. WE CAN ASK FOR CERTAIN THINGS.
WE CAN ASK TO ONLY RECEIVE PROPOSALS FOR PINK HOUSES, BUT SOMEONE CAN SEND IN A PROPOSAL IN FOR A BLUE CONDO.
WE -- THE RFP SIMPLY AUTO GUIDE. WE CAN RECEIVE WHATEVER THE PUBLIC WANTS TO SUBMIT TO US, AND FROM THAT, WE THEN EVALUATE.
>> ARE YOU CLEAR? >> I AM VERY CLEAR.
I AM VERY CLEAR. CLEAR ON THIS INLAND OF THE
DAIS. >> EVERYBODY MADE THE POINTS
THEY WANT TO MAKE. >> I WILL ASK COMMISSIONER GAINES, HAVE YOU HAD ANY CAFFEINE TODAY?
>> I THINK WE ARE CLEAR DOWN HERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING OVER THERE.
>> THE COFFEE IS DIFFERENT OVER HERE.
>> MR. MIMMS, DO YOU HAVE DIRECTION?
>> I BELIEVE -- I APPRECIATE THE INPUT, BUT I BELIEVE FOR US TO HAVE A VERY CLEAR AND CONCISE RFP, WE NEED TO IMMEDIATELY BEGIN THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION PROCESS.
THAT WAY WE WILL HAVE I GUESS A REFERENCE WITHIN THE RFP TO THE PUBLIC STATING THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE RULES AND LAWS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE WITH REGARD TO THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION. RIGHT NOW WE DON'T KNOW WHAT PORTION, WHAT SECTION, OR WHAT CONFIGURATION OF THE PROPERTY WE ARE LOOKING TO DESIGNATE. WE WILL IMMEDIATELY BEGIN WITH THAT. DR. FREEMAN WILL JUMP ON THAT AND MAKE THAT HAPPEN. AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK AND INCLUDE THAT IN THE RAINFALLRFP DOCUMENTS.
>> IN THE RFP DOCUMENTS, DO YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE THE REVERSIONARY
CLAUSE POSSIBILITIES? >> I BELIEVE THAT IS A VERY GOOD IDEA. YES, WE NEED TO, I GUESS DIVULGE ALL THE INFORMATION. THAT WILL BE IN THE APPENDICES.
THAT WON'T BE A PROBLEM AND THE PROPOSER WILL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT
THEY ARE FACING. >> A REMINDER -- I WANT TO REMIND THE COMMISSION, A RECENT RFP WITH A RESPONDENT THAT WANTED TO LEASE THE PROPERTY.
AT SOME POINT CHANGED THEIR MIND AND WANTED TO BUY THE PROPERTY.
WE ENCOUNTERED THAT. AND ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN.
ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN. ARE WE DONE WITH THIS TOPIC? YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED, MR. MIMMS.
>> YES, MA'AM. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MIKE, DID YOU A GREAT JOB WITH THE PRESENTATION.
[c. Discussion regarding the future of Fort Pierce's waterways, including the Economic Waterway Study of the Treasure Coast, Fort Pierce Waterway Update and discussion of Marina Expansion.]
>> MY PLEASURE. [LAUGHTER] NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS DSCUSSION REGARDING THE FUTURE OF FORT PIERCE WATERWAYS, INCLUDING THE ECONOMIC WATERWAY STUDY, TREASURE COAST WATER AND DISCUSSION OF MARINA EXPANSION.
>> MR. MIMMS. >> THIS AT THIS TIME OUR MARINA DIRECTOR DAVE CUBECHEK. ANNUAL-STAR CAST.
WATERWAY MANAGEMENT PLAN. NO SPECIFIC ORDER.
LET DEAN DISCUSS THAT. AND THE STATUS OF OUR CURRENT CITY MARINA AND SHOW HOW THAT CAN BE IMPROVED.
A SPECIAL GUEST, MR. JOSHUA REWARD THAT WILL TALK OF HIS ROLE IN OUR WATERWAY MANAGEMENT PLAN SIX.
>> MR. JUSTIN BEARD WITH THE CA MARINE INDUSTRY.
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WE HAVE THE A TEAM ON THE MARINE SIDE HERE.WELCOME, MR. CUBECHECK. >> GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS, MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE.
WE ARE HERE TO TALK OF LONG-TERM FUTURE OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE WATERWAY. WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS BROUGHT EXPERTISE IN THE INDUSTRY TO GIVE YOU A CURRENT STATUS.
START OFF WITH JUSTIN BEARD WITH THE MARINE ASSOCIATION OF THE TREASURE COAST AND HE WILL TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THE ASSOCIATION. AND THEN WE WILL HAVE JO JOSHUA REWARD WHO WILL TALK FROM THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY PORT DIRECTOR AND HE WILL TALK ABOUT THE -- THE ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THE WATERWAY HE HAS TO DEAL WITH.
AND THEN WE GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THEN TALKING OF THE
CITY MARINA ITSELF. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. >> GOOD MORNING.
>> I FEEL LIKE EVERY TIME I COME IN HERE IT IS SOME DIFFERENT CAPACITY, BUT IT IS ALWAYS REALLY GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE IT IS SOME PROJECT THAT WILL HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT IMPACT FOR THE FUTURE OF FORT PIERCE, AND IT IS ALWAYS AROUND WATER. MANY OF YOU KNOW I AM FROM THE AREA. I GREW UP IN VERO, BUT MY FAVORITE SURF BREAK IS FORT PIERCE INLET.
I KNOCKED MY HEAD ON THE SAND BAR THERE A NUMBER OF TIMES.
I HAVE TAKEN BOAT CAPTAINS FROM AROUND THE WORLD SURFING THERE AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE THIS REGION TO THE WORLD IN MY PREVIOUS ROLE OF DIRECTOR OF SHIP YARDS.
IT IS VERY EXCITING TO ME TO BE THAT GUIDE, SO TO SPEAK, OF THE BEAUTIFUL AREA THAT WE HAVE. AND THIS MORNING TALKING ABOUT THE NATURAL RESOURCES AND THE LANDMARKS AND EVERYTHING THAT IS GOOD ABOUT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND ST. LUCIE COUNTY.
SO WE TALK OF THE CITY MARINA, I THINK MANY FOLKS WHO IN THE ROOM TODAY WAS HERE WHEN THE CITY MARINA WAS HIT AFTER THE HURRICANE. AND WHEN WE TOOK PAUSE AND THE CITY TOOK PAUSE OF HOW TO REDEVELOP IT WITH THE BARRIER ISLANDS THEY BUILT. A PIVOTAL MOMENT TO AT THE TIME UP THE FUTURE. TO TALK OF THE FUTURE AND IN ANY NEW ROLE AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WITH THE MARINE INDUSTRIES.
TO BE A PARTNER OF WHAT THE FUTURE LOOKS LIKE.
AND SO, THIS MORNING, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SUCCESS OF CHRIS'S BOAT PARADE THAT THE ASSOCIATION HAD OVER THE WEEKEND AND BIG THANKS TO THE CITY OF STUART -- THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND MAYOR HUDSON FOR YOUR INVOLVEMENT AS A JUDGE. BUT THAT IS ECONOMIC IMPACT.
WE PACK THE ISLANDS. AND I AM SURE YOU HAVE CALLS --
>> AND THE MAINLAND. >> PEOPLE WERE UPSET PAUSE DIDN'T GET A GOOD VIEW OR THE RESERVATION ON TIME AND THEY WERE DELAYED. WE ARE VERIY.
BUT AMAZING EVENT. SANTA CLAUS FROM A HELICOPTER WAVING TO THE CROWD. A SHOW.
A DRONE SHOW. AND WHAT THE STP CITY OF FORT PIERCE IS AND A WAY TO CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS AHEAD OF BUILDS.
MARINE INDUSTRIES OF PROTECTING, GROWING MARINE-RELATED BUSINESS HERE ON THE TREASURE COAST. I KNOW THAT MOST FOLKS MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH OUR ASSOCIATION MAINLY IN STUART COUNTY, AND THE BOAT SHOW. THE MAJORITY OF OUR MEMBERSHIP IS MARTIN FORT PIERCE COUNTY BASED.
I WAS ON BROUGHT ON BOARD TO EXPAND ST. LUCIE COUNTY AND LEADERSHIP AND REPRESENTATION. AND HONORED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE CITY MARE TEEN THAT THERE IN FORT PIERCE OF WHAT THE FUTURE PLANS ARE. AND DEAN AND HIS TEAM AND JOSH, THEY ARE ALL GOING GOING TO FOLLOW UP WITH REALLY GOOD REMARKS WHY IT IS A GOOD IDEA AND WHAT THE NEED IT.
BECAUSE I THINK EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM THAT SEES THE GROWTH SINCE DIRECTOR HAS JUST OPENED, WE NEED TO SEE HOW THE RESOURCES.
THE LAND-BASED RESOURCES ARE GOING TO SUPPORT THE MARINE AS IT CONTINUES TO GO. WE ARE A MEMBERSHIP ASSOCIATION.
WE HAVE 133 MEMBERS. THE CITY MARINA IN FORT PIERCE IS ONE OF THEM AND WE ARE PROUD TO PROMOTE THE GOOD WORK THAT THE MARINA IS DOING. WATER QUALITY IS ALSO AN IMPORTANT ISSUE OF OURS. I HAVE BEEN IN HERE TALKING OF THE INTEREST HE SHALLTURE COAST CLEANUP THAT THE ASSOCIATION RUNS. WHEN I TALK OF THE MEMBERS THAT I REPRESENT, THE TEN BOAT MANUFACTURERS.
ONE OF THE NEWEST TO TOWN WOULD BE CONTENDER AND MOVE THE PLAN
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UP TO FORT PIERCE COUNTY TO DEVELOP A NEW BOAT BRAND WHICH IS OUTSTANDING. TWINV GOING THROUGH AN EXPANSION AND LAUNCHING A ALL-NEW ELECTRIC BOAT THAT IS EXCITING AND REVOLUTIONARY FOR THE MARINE INDUSTRY AND THE RECENT OFFICE SUPPORT AND WILL BE MOVING THAT OPERATION HERE TO ST. LUCIE COUNTY. THAT ALONE WITH A HUGE BENEFIT FOR THE COUNTY WHEN YOU THINK OF JOBS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.WE SCRATCH THE SURFACE OF WHAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COULD BE HERE IN OUR DOWNTOWN, IN OUR CITY FOR THE MARINE INDUSTRY.
AND SO HAVING A LOT OF THIS LAND-BASED SUPPORT LIKE A CITY MARINA WHERE BOATS CAN COME AND PAY DOCKAGE AND PEOPLE PROMOTE THAT WORK HERE AND NUMBER OF SUBCONTRACTORS THAT WORK ON THESE BOATS TO DRIVE REVENUE HERE AND EXCITING TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT WHAT THE FUTURE COULD BE FOR IT.
WE HAVE GOT THE THREE BIG BOAT YARDS.
ONE SUPER YACHT YARD. DIRECTORSHIP YARDS.
FIVE MAYOR MARINAS. THE CITY BEING ONE OF THEM.
SIX SMALL MARINAS AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SUBCONTRACTED BASED BUSINESSES THAT WE REPRESENT FROM WELDING, PAINTING, ALL TYPES OF FABRICATION, FIBERGLASS AND SO ON. NEXT SLIDE SO THIS IS WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE NUMBERS. I LIKE THIS GRAPHIC.
PRODUCED BY OUR FRIENDS AT THE FLORIDA NAVIGATION DISTRICT.
AND FOCUSES ON THE ECONOMIC IMPACT AS IT IS AGAIN RATED FROM THE INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY. OTHER ECONOMIC STUDIES OUT THERE. THE MARINE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION IS READY TO DO OUR OWN ECONOMIC STUDY OF THE TREASURE COAST REGION THAT YOU WILL BE HEARING MORE ABOUT IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO, BUT THIS -- AGAIN, AS IT RELATES TO IINGCW.
A BIG NUMBER UP TOP. $414 MILLION GENERATED.
AS A REGION THE MARINE INDUSTRY GENERATES $1.3 BILLION ACCORDING THE NATIONAL MARINE MANUFACTURER ASSOCIATION.
SO YOU HAVE A LARGE CHUNK OF THAT THAT IS REGULATED HERE IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY AND A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF GROWTH POTENTIAL AS MORE FOLKS COME HERE TO -- TO SET UP WORK AND DO BUSINESS AND OPERATE HERE IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY.
TOUR 1I678 A BIG DEAL. I TALK OF CHRIS'S BOAT PARADE OVER THE WEEKEND. COMPLETELY PACKED ALL THE RESTAURANTS ON THE ISLAND AND I AM REALLY EXCITED TO HEAR WHAT THEIR REVENUE WAS. I KNOW THAT MANY OF THEM SOLD OUT IN ADVANCE. THEY HAD SPECIAL SEATS.
AND IT IS USUALLY ONE OF THE BEST DAYS OF THE YEAR FOR REVENUE FOR THE BUSINESSES. BOATER SPENDING.
PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE SPENDING MONEY.
THEY GOT TO BUY GAS BECAUSE BOATS DON'T RUN ON THANKS AND NEED TO DOCK THEM AT THE MARINA. NEEDS TO BE A LAND-BASED SUPPORT TO KEEP THE BOATS RUNNING AND NOT MAKE THEM DERELICT AND SIT OUTSIDE THE DMANL A MOARED AREA THAT WILL BE A HAZARD TO OTHER BOATERS. IMPORTANT HOW AN EXPANSION LIKE THIS CAN BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AS WE LOOK TO GROW.
KINGS LANDING IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE GROWTH WE HAVE COMING AND ANOTHER DISCUSSION OF A CONDO DEVELOPMENT OVER ON THE ISLAND TOO. SO BE MINDFUL AS YOU START TO GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AND LISTEN TO HAVE WHAT FOLKS SAY TODAY OF THE NEED FOR THIS KIND OF SUPPORT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AGAIN THE FORT PIERCE INLET, PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM AROUND THE WORLD TO VISIT THE INLET. I HAVE ENTERTAINED A NUMBER OF CAPTAINS AND CREW MEMBERS FROM EVERYWHERE FROM NEW ZEALAND AND ALL OVER THE WORLD THAT COME AND ARE BLOWN AWAY FROM THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE HERE. KNOWING THAT FORT PIERCE INLET IS SUCH A GEM AND THE DEEPEST WILDEST INLET BETWEEN PORT EVERGLADES AND PORT THAT AND A HALF WE WILL.
LAND PORT POLICE AS COMMANDER AND SOON TO BE DEVELOPED MARINA.
IT IS EXCITING. AN AREA WHERE SOUTH FLORIDA HAS OUTGROWN ITS WAISTBAND AND PEOPLE ARE MOVING UP HERE.
I KNOW IT IS A TOUCHY SUBJECT. AND WHEN YOU THINK OF YOUNG FOLKS WHO CAN POTENTIALLY FIND A CAREER IN THE MARINE INDUSTRY AND KEEP THEIR TALENTS HERE LOCALLY, A HUGE TIENT WE HAVE -- HUGE OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE FOR A SUPPORT SYSTEM AND TO STAY HERE AND LEARN A TRADE AND SUPPORT THEIR FAMILY AND COMMUNITY.
WE ALL LOVE THE INLET. AS I SAID, I GREW UP SURFING THERE. GREAT FISHING THERE.
AND A HUGE DRAW FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AS YOU SAW A FEW SLIDES AGO, A TREMENDOUS IMPACT FROM WHAT IT BRINGS. ANYTHING ELSE TO GO OVER, KYLE?
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>> THAT'S ABOUT IT. >> ALL RIGHT.
WELL, I DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH -- >> THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US AND BRINGING THIS INFORMATION TO US.
>> THANK YOU. >> MR. RE ZSHGSORD.
>> MAYOR HUDSON, MECHANICS OF THE COMMISSION, JOSHUA REVORD, DIRECTOR OF BEACHES FOR ST. LUCIE COUNTY.
DEAN ASKED ME TO GRACIOUSLY PROVIDE YOU WITH AN UPDATE WE HAVE OPINION WORKING TO WITH THE COUNTY.
ONE A ANCHORING INCLUSION ZONES. ACTUALLY ANCHORING LIMITATION AREAS. I PREVIOUSLY MADE ROUNDS WITH ALL YOU HAVE TO YOU TALK OF A SPECIFIC NEED THAT IS AT THE HEART OF THE PORT. IN OUR BUSINESS WE BRING VERY LARGE VESSELS THROUGH THE NAVIGABLE CHANNEL THROUGH THE INLET. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE OF FROM DEAN AND MY OWN CAPACITY OF THE ENCROACHMENT OF THE VES VESSELS MOARED ALONG THE NAVIGABLE CHANNEL. WHEN LOOK OUT MY OFFICE, I SEE 30 TO 40 VESSELS SITTING WITHIN PROXIMITY OF THAT NAVIGABLE CHANNEL AND THAT KIND OF SCARES ME FRANKLY.
WE HAVE YACHTS THAT COME ON BOARD THAT ARE UPWARDS OF 200 MILLION. AND THE THOUGHT OF ONE BEING ENTANGLED AND ACTUALLY WRECKING THROUGH THAT CHANNEL SCARES ME FRANKLY BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A VERY BIG FIASCO NOT ONLY FOR THAT BUT FOR YOU BECAUSE THIS IS IN YOUR BACK YARD.
ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS THAT RECENTLY WAS MADE AVAILABLE THROUGH THIS PORT IS THE IDEA OF ANCHORING AREAS IN 2021.
STATE STATUTE CHANGEDED AND I WANT TO GO THROUGH WHAT THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY ARE NOT BECAUSE MISCONCEPTION WHAT IS AN ANCHORING AREA IS. WHEN I SAY ANCHORING LIMITATION AREA, MOST KNEE-JERK REACTION IS THIS IS A MOORING FIELD.
YOU ARE TRYING TO SOLICIT PEOPLE TO COME TO THIS AREA AND THEREFORE, MITIGATION AND PUTTING UP BOWIES AND FOCUS PEOPLE IN AREAS. IT IS ACTUALLY THE EXACT OPPOSITE. ANCHORS LIMITATION AREA.
THE BEST WAY TO DESCRIBE IT IS A TEMPORARY PARKING SPACE.
ANY OF HOW YOU HAVE PARKING HERE.
SOMETIMES THERE IS PARK WHERE YOU CAN STAY ALL DAY AND SOMETIMES IS A TWO-HOUR PARKING REQUIREMENT AND AT THAT POINT, LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN GET INVOLVED.
ANCHORING LIMITATION AREA IS BAILSCALLY A TIMED PARKING AREA.
THE STATE LEGISLATION BASICALLY IDENTIFIES BY USING THIS MODEL OF ANCHOR ING LIMITATION AREA. YOU CAN PUT A TIME CLOCK.
IT IS 45 DAYS. THERE ARE ALWAYS CONVERSATIONS WHY CAN'T WE PERMIT AND EXCLUDE THEM FOREVER.
WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING AT OUR DISPOSAL LIKE THAT, NOT A SILVER BULLET BUT ALLOWS FOR US TO UNCLOG THE ARTERY TO ALLOW FOR LESS OCCURRENCES TO HAPPEN. WHAT WE HAVE DONE WITH THE COUNTY MET WITH THE DE PESHGZ, CORE OF ENGINEERS AND FWC.
SINCE THIS IS COMMUNICATION NOT A LOT TO FIND OUT WHAT THE PROCESS AND PROCEDURE IS TO ESTABLISH ONE OF THESE AND THE REALER'S DIGEST VERSION. THE COUNTY WILL BE IN THE SPOT TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE WITH ONE OR MORE OF THESE ZONES AND WE WILL DRAFT THAT ORDINANCE AND IN MY UNDERSTANDING THE COMMISSION HAS TAKEN STEPS IN THE PAST AND DEAN CAN ELABORATE MORE ON PUTTING RESOURCES TO ACTUALLY POLICE ONE OR MORE OF THESE AREAS. SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I THINK WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS WE HAVE HIRED A CONSULTANT.
THE SCOPE OF WORK IS ABOUT TO BE EXECUTED THIS WEEK IF NOT NEXT WEEK. AND BY THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, WE WILL DO A GRAPHIC ANALYSIS OF PHO PHOTOS IN THE INLET TO LOOK AT WHERE ARE THESE SHIPS AND VESSELS CONGREGATING. WE WILL USE THAT DATA TO IDENTIFY TWO SPECIFIC ZONES. ONE BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE MAIN NAVIGABLE CHANNEL WITHIN THE INLET.
THE HOPE BEING THAT WE CAN DRAFT AN ORDINANCE THAT IS REQUIRED BY STATE STATUTE THAT WE CAN ADOPT A ZONE WHERE WE CAN HOPEFULLY MOVE PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THOSE AREAS AND THEY DON'T STAY CHRONIC AND STAY THERE FOREVER. ONE THING WE DO SEE, SOMEBODY PUTS THEIR BOAT UP THERE. THEY GO.
IT BECOMES UNMOORED AND DEAN WILL SHOW SOME PHOTOS IN THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION ON SOMETHING THAT RECENTLY HAPPENED THAT, AGAIN, BECOMES AN OBSTACLE FOR OUR PORT OPERATION.
IT BECOMES FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE HERE AND THOSE RECOGNIZE
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RATING OUT ON THE WATERWAY. MY HOPE IS TO GET THAT ASSESSMENT DONE IN THE FIRST QUARTER.GO TO MY BOARD AND IN STAFF INFORMAL AND GET BY IN THE ACTUAL EXTENT OF THAT AREA AND WORK HAND IN HAND WITH DEAN AND HIS STAFF TO IDENTIFY TWO SPECIFIC AREAS TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU GUYS WITH US MOVING FORWARD WITH THE ORDINANCE.
AT THIS POINT, A LOT OF INFORMATION TO DIGEST, BUT THE MAIN INTENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PORT CAN MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT ANY ISSUES IN THE FUTURE, ESPECIALLY DURING THIS TIME OF THE SEASON. THERE IS LOTS AND LOTS OF VESSELS. WE HAVE SEEN IT FIRST HAND DURING THE BOAT PARADE WHERE THERE WAS TOO MANY BOATS IN THE CORRIDOR AND IF NOT ORCHESTRATED RIGHT, COULD HAVE LED TO A BIG ISSUE. I AM GOING TO OPEN THE FLOOR UP TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THIS ASPECT OF THE PRESENTATION. BECAUSE YOUR BUY-IN AND YOUR OPINIONS WILL BE DIGESTED AS I GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS THAT WE FIND SOMETHING THAT IS BEST FOR BOTH JURISDICTION.
SO I HAVE A QUESTION. THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE WANT TO MOVE THE CROWDED BOAT PARKING IN PRESIDENT INLET TO LIMIT -- WHAT DID YOU CALL IT, ANCHORING ELEMENTARYTATION.
WE PUT THE ZONE. -- LIMITATIONS.
>> WE PUT THE ZONE AND SOMEBODY COMES TO THAT ZONE AND IF THE INTENT IS TO HAVE DEAN AND HIS CREW POLICE THOSE ZONES SO WE HAVE THE DATA TO GET TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THE INPUT OF THE CITY -- THIS PERSON HAS STAYED HERE TOO LONG AND GET WITH FWC AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO EITHER FINING OR EVICTING THOSE BOATS FROM THOSE AREAS.
IT LESSENS THE CHRONIC NATURE OF THE MOORING WITHIN THAT
CORRIDOR. >> WITHIN THE INLET.
>> YES, MA'AM. >> THAT IS THE GOAL.
>> THAT IS THE GOAL NOW. DISCUSSION WHETHER TO APPLY IT TO OTHER AREAS. I THINK A TIERED APPROACH IS THE BEST WAY TO DO IT. DO THE MAIN CORRIDOR WITH IMPACT TO THE CITY AND THE COUNTY. AND WE SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH REGARDS TO ESTABLISHING THAT. SOME OF THEM MIGHT MOVE HERE.
THEY MIGHT MOVE THERE. AND IN CERTAIN SENSE, THEY WILL SOMEWHAT CHASES THAT ISSUE IF WE HAVE GOOD REASON.
SO I THINK YOU DO THIS IN A TIERED APPROACH AND ME NODCALLY SO YOU FIND OUT YOU ONLY DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO AND DON'T GO OVER
QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER BRODERICK.
>> I HAVE BEEN AN ADVOCATE OF THIS TIME OF PROGRAM SINCE I HAVE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION. AND YOU COLLECTIVELY HAVE TAKEN IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL WHICH IS IMPRESSIVE.
I REALLY THINK THAT THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE CITY IS CRITICAL. IF WE HAVE ENFORCEMENT DESIGNATION TAKING PLACE AT THE COUNTY LEFT AND THROUGH THE LOCAL LEVEL OF OUR FOLKS, LIAISONING WITH STATE, LOCAL, ETC. IT'S A WIN-WIN.
THIS IS SPECIFICALLY THE TYPE OF PROGRAM THAT WILL FIX IN PROBLEM. AND I AM GOING TO SUGGEST WITH YOU COMING ACROSS THE BRIDGE ARE MORNING, THERE IS MORE AND IT IS EARLIER. THAT PLACE IS JAMMED OUT THERE AND IT IS NOT EVEN JANUARY YET. SO -- ALL I CAN SUGGEST IS AS QUICKLY AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE, TO GET ALL OF THE ELEMENTS OF THIS IN PLACE. I THINK IT IS GOING TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL PERSPECTIVE WITH THE ABILITY OF US HAVING A PATROL CAPABILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT BOATS ARE DISCHARGING PROPERLY AND SO WE HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THAT. AND, OF COURSE, THE LIFE SAFETY ISSUE OF THE -- OF THE PRIMARY CHANNEL WITH SOME OF THE BIG STUFF THAT IS COMING IN HERE TO DIRECTOR, ETC., IS A CRITICAL NEED. SO THIS PROGRAM, I THINK, HITS ON ALL THOSE -- ALL THOSE PRIMARY POINTS.
AS THAT PROGRAM IS ROLLED OUT, IT CAN BE FINE TUNE WITH ADDITIONAL SERVICES AND THINGS OF THIS NATURE THAT MAY BE CONSIDERED TO -- TO EVEN MAKE IT BETTER.
SO I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND QUICK --
>> I AM GOING TO WORK AS QUICK AS I CAN.
>> GET DONE BY THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, I THINK?
>> I AM GOING TO TRY MY BEST TO GET IT DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
I THINK, TOO, JUST FOR YOUR GENERAL AWARENESS, IT TWO WARRANT SOME KIND OF INTERLOCAL BETWEEN US AND YOU GUYS IN TERMS OF THE POLICING SIDE. BUT I DON'T SEE ANY NEGATIVE DRAWBACKING FROM THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE GOOD JUSTIFICATION.
LATER ON IF WE HAVE GOOD REASON TO EXPAND -- TO PUT AN AREA THERE AND THERE. WE WILL LET THE DATA SPEAK FOR ITSELF AND LOOK AT THIS TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
BUT THIS WE CAN UNIFORMLY COME TOGETHER ON AND THE OTHER THING TOO, WE HAVE THE BEACH HAND THIS ENCROACHMENT IS GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THAT BEACH. AND, AGAIN, NOT A SILVER BULLET, IF WE CAN CONTINUE TO KEEP PEOPLE MOVING AND RID OURSELVES OF 50% OF FOLKS OUT THERE AT THAT TIME.
THAT IS BIG THING. 50 % LESS POSSIBILITY OF IMPACT
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COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> LOOKING FORWARD TO ALL THE STEPS. YOU AND I HAVE GREAT CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ALL OF THIS. THE THING THAT CAME TO MY MIND THIS MORNING, THINKING ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER AGENCIES OR MUNICIPALITIES OR THE STATE THAT HAVE SUGGESTED AN INCLUSION INTO THE LOCAL CITY ORDINANCES ABOUT THE DINGY V'SLES FROM THE BOAT. IF THEY HAVE TO COME ON BOARD FOR SERVICES DO THEY RESTRICT ANY OF THE OPERATIONS?
>> BASED ON MY UNDERSTANDING, I AM NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE. MAYBE DEAN WILL BE BETTER SUITED FOR THAT. HE KNOW WHEN THEY ESTA ESTABLISH MOORING FIELDS, THEY HAVE CERTAIN CRITERIA FOR THINGS. THIS IS AN IMMEDIATE STEP.
NOT A MOORING FIELD. NOT PUT IN THE A SPECIFIC REASON BUT TRYING TO UNCLOG AN AREA BY RESTRICTING THE ACCESS TO A CERTAIN DIRECTION. IT IS KIND OF A MIDWAY BETWEEN FORMAL FIELD AND THE EXCLUSION ZONE.
>> I AM JUST ANYTHING STRATEGICALLY IF THERE WAS A LIMITATION OF, YOU KNOW, THE CAUSEWAY PARK RIGHT THERE OF A DINGY VESSEL BEING BEACH ODD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO COME ON SHORE TO DO THEIR BUSINESS.
I DON'T KNOW. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE
COVERING ALL THE BASES. >> I THINK IF WE TAKE THIS STEP, WE WILL SEE IT WHAT KIND OF IMPACT THIS HAS.
AND WE WILL HAVE A LARGER DISCUSSION OF HOW TO BE FULLY
DEVELOPED LATER ON. >> ANY OTHER QUELLS?
>> FACT FINDING. IF I HEARD YOU RIGHT, THIS LIMITATION WILL BE 45 DAY. I BELIEVE STATE STATUTE IDENTIFIES A 45-DAY TIME PERIOD. SO ENFORCEMENT IS KEY, BECAUSE IF I WERE TO WALK YOU THROUGH A DAY, DEAN WOULD HAVE HIS CREW GO OUT TO THAT AREA. A NEW BOAT ARRIVES.
THEY WOULD LOG THE VIN NUMBER. IDENTIFY AND TRY TO MAKE CONTACT. THE KEY TAKEAWAY TOO, OFTEN AS A CASE, SOMEBODY MOORS. WE DON'T FIND OUT THEY ARE A PROBLEM UNTIL THEY ARE BEACHED AND AT THAT POINT WE DON'T KNOW WHOSE BOAT IT IS. WHAT JURISDICTION AND WE ARE READY FOR THE FACTS. WITH THIS PROGRAM PRESUMABLY DEAN AND HIS CREW WILL BE OUT THERE.
MAY HAVE CONTACT WITH THE BOAT OWNER.
HAVE IN THEVILLEVIN NUMBER. IF IT BECOMES DERELICT OR UNTETHERED THEY CAN TAKE THE STEP QUICKLY PAUSE THEY HAVE DONE ALL THE LEGWORK TO FIND THE CRITICAL TO IDENTIFY THE FWC.
>> IN CONCEPT I GET IT. I DON'T KNOW MARITIME LAWS OR WHATEVER THAT STUFF IS, IS IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS A LONG TIME.
MY CHALLENGE IS, YOU CAN'T NAVIGATE THROUGH THERE OR GET DRIFT OR WHATEVER, IT COULD CAUSE SOME CHALLENGE.
>> WE ARE VERY LIMITED. TO TELL SOMEBODY TO GET OFF OF A SPACE UNLESS THAT IS A EXCLUSION ZONE.
THOSE ARE HARD TO WARRANT AND PROCESS.
AGAIN, THIS IS THE BEST TOOL IN THE TOOL BELT TO TRY TO UNCLOG THE ARTERY. WE WILL TRY DO THAT AND MAYBE LEGISLATION WILL CHANGE THAT AND MAKE IT 45 DAYS TO 25 DAYS.
THAT IS MY HOPE. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.
>> USING DATA THAT WE GATHER COULD BE HELP.
>> ALL NEW. I AM ONLY AWARE OF A HANDFUL THAT ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED. ENFORCEMENT SIDE, WE WILL BE LEARNING AS WE GO BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE TO TAKE DEAN'S INFORMATION TO GIVE THAT AND PROVIDE TO FWC AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO TAKE THE NEXT STEP. IT HAVEN'T BEEN TRIED FULLY IN ITS FULL CAPACITY, THERE WILL BE BUGS AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT
THESE THINGS. >> THE FIRST STEP JUST SO I AM CLEAR MOARING. I COME TO LEARN THAT.
TALKED ABOUT MOARING AND FOR RESIDENCY AND A PERIOD OF TIME.
>> CURRENTLY NOT ON MY PLATE RIGHT NOW.
DO THIS FIRST AND THE CITY WILL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION LATER ON AS TO WHAT ETENT YOU WANT TO FACILITATE THAT.
IT IS A BIG COMMITMENT BASED ON WHAT I UNDERSTAND AND THAT WILL
BE FOR A FUTURE DATE. >> THANK YOU.
>> VERY GOOD. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT.
GOOD INFORMATION. >> ONE THING FOR YOU GUYS.
>> PROCEEDS. >> OPERATION AND MART NANCE DREDGING. WE HAVE OPINION WORK WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS. WE RECEIVED $10 MILLION FOR THE NEXT DREDGING EVENT OF THE NEXT FEDERAL INLET.
THIS WEEK KICKING OFF OFFICIALLY WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS IN JANUAR AND DOING GEOTECHNICAL CORING IN THE INLET TO LOOK AT THIS MATERIAL. THIS PROJECT IS PRESUMABLY GOING
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TO BE DONE IN CONCERT WITH THE FEDERAL BEACH PROJECT OF FORT PIERCE. UTILIZE THE BEACH CAPACITIABLE SANDS DURING THAT DREDGING EFFORTS, GO ON THE BEACH AND GO OFFSHORE FOR THE REMAINDER. LOOKING FOR A REGIONAL PROJECT COMBINING THOSE PROJECTS INTO ONE TO GET A BET VALUE FROM OUR EFFORT AND UTILIZE OUR SETTLEMENTS WISELY.>>U THAT FOR ALL YOU DO. >> GREAT ROMP.
MR. CUBECHEK. >> COMMISSIONERS, OUR NEXT SLIDE IS A WE WERE LOOKING TO ARE A VESSEL TO ACHIEVE WHAT WE WERE LOOKING TO DO. BUT THINK BEING THAT, I DON'T THINK A REGULAR VESSEL IS GOING TO WORK.
BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER TASKS THE MARE PREEN THAT IS REQUIRED TO DO. WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN OUR OWN CHANNELS. ALWAYS SETTING BUOYS OUT THERE.
SO THERE IS A CLEAR CHANNEL MARK IN AND OUT OF THE MARINA.
ON TOP OF THAT, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE MANAGING THE ISLAND.
SO IF THINGS WASH UP TO THE ISLANDS.
WE ARE ON THE ISLANDS AND WE HAVE TO REMOVE THEM.
RIGHT NOW IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO DO SO IN LOOKING AT DIFFERENT TYPES OF VESSELS, I WAS LOOKING AT VESSELS THEY WERE USING UP NORTH AND SUCH. THIS ONE SAYS "POLICE" I ENVISION IT TO SAY "CODE ENFORCE." ORG WHATEVER TEXT YOU WOULD LIKE IT TO SAY.
BUT WITH THAT, I AM VIEWING THIS VESSEL AS A MULTIUSE VESSEL, JUST NOT FOR GOING -- FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT ABOUT YOU SAYING -- YOU SEE THAT AT THE END OF IT. WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE THE BUOYS IF WE NEED TO. NOT JUST IN THE MARINE CHANNEL IF YOU NEED IS AT JAILSY PARK AND SUCH, WE CAN -- JAYCEE PARK.
WE CAN USE IT IN OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY AND IF SITUATIONS ARISE ON THE WATERWAY THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR -- OR ANOTHER DEPARTMENT NEEDS SOMETHING OR MOVED OFF THE WATERWAY WE ARE ABLE TO UTILIZE IT TO DO THAT MUCH EASIER THAN WHAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH NOW SO I AM LOOKING TO -- I DON'T HAVE A COST ESTIMATE TO THIS AS OF YET. I JUST RAN ACROSS THIS ABOUT THREE OR FOUR WEEKS AGO TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
I AM LOOKING TO POTENTIALLY SEEING WHAT IT TAKES TO PUT A TANK ON THIS. AND WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO REMOVE A PUMP-OUT -- USE IT AS PUMP-OUT VESSEL AS WE GO STOUT AND VISIT THESE BOATS ON ANCHOR AND WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH TWO BEARDS WITH ONE STONE. SO I AM GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH YOUR PERMISSION TO TRY TO GET A COST STEM FOR THIS TYPE OF VESSEL. I HAVE THINK IT -- LIKE I SAID, IT WOULD JUST NOT BE FOR -- IT WILL ABILITY MULTI USE VESSEL WHICH MAKES MUCH MORE SENSE BECAUSE THE CITY HAS NOTHING LIKE THIS. AS YOU KNOW, OUR WATERWAYS ARE GROWING. A NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON THE WATERWAYS ARE BECOMING MORE AND MORE AND WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO NEED TO DO -- CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THEM.
SO THIS WILL GIVE US THE REAL TRUE TOOL THAT WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND BE EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT AND DO IT SAFELY.
SO WITH THAT SAID, WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SWITCH OVER.
KYLE KAUFMAN. LET ME INTRODUCE TO YOU HIM.
ELSE MY NEW OPERATIONS MANAGER AND SUPERVISOR.
WITH THAT, HE HAS BEEN WITH ME TWO OR THREE MONTHS NOW.
AND HE WILL SPEND THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS LEARNING THE FACILITY AND ALL THE CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
BUT -- I BROKE IN NEXT TALK INTO TWO SEGMENTS, EXCUSE KNEE.
ONE IS THE INTERNAL BASIN AND THE OTHER THE EXTERNAL BASIN.
THE EXTERNAL BASIN IS A FIXED DOCK.
BACK IN 1998, WE WENT IN AND REBUILT IT.
AND WE HAD VARIOUS IMPROVEMENTS. WE DEALT WITH THE HURRICANE THAT DESTROYED A SECTION OF IT BACK IN '04.
WITH THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY REPLACING A LOT OF THE WOOD ON TOP OF IT BECAUSE IT EXCEEDED ITS LIFE EXPECTANCY ON TOP.
WITH THAT SAID WE ARE ENCO ENCOUNTERING WHEN WE BUILT THE DOCKS TO THE HEIGHTS 20, 25 YEARS AGO, WE REALLY DIDN'T SEE THIS TYPE OF PROBLEM. WITH THE RISING WATERS, IT IS BECOMING MORE PREVALENT OVER THE YEARS THAT -- FOR SOME REASON, THE WATER LEVELS ARE GUETTLERING HIGHER AND WE ALL TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH THE RESILIENCY THAT THE STATE IS WORRIED ABOUT.
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THE -- THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THIS FACILITY IS WE ARE ACTUALLY TWO AND A HALF HOUR DIFFERENCE IN THE TIDE CYCLE THAN THE INLET IS. THE NORTH SIDE IS TWO HOURS AND THE SOUTH SIDE. AND REASON BEING IS BECAUSE OF THE OPENING MUCH THAT BRIDGE. IT IS ONLY HALF MILE WIDE.IT DEPENDS ON A HOW MUCH WATER CAN BE FORCED IN AT ONE TIME AND HOW MUCH WATER CAN LEAVE AT ONCE.
SO SOMETIMES WE DO GET BACK UP BECAUSE ALL THE WATER DOESN'T GET BACK THE INLET AND IT DOES BACK UP A LITTLE BIT.
SO OVER THE YEARS IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE GAINING.
THE CITY ITSELF WE TALK OF THE ROADS AND THE MARINA EXPERIENCES THE SAME THING WHAT IT DOES CAUSES RISK.
SAFETY RISK WITH ELECTRICITY AND THE SYSTEM THAT IS LOCATED UNDER THE DOCKS THAT CREATES POTENTIAL FIRE HAZARDS.
AN GOING THING WHEN THE WATER LEVEL COMES TO A CERTAIN POINT.
WE SHUT DOWN ELECTRICITY TO THE INTERNAL BASIN UNTIL THE WATER DROPS AGAIN. LET IT DRY OUT A LITTLE BIT DOESN'T MEAN TWO HOURS DOWN THE ROAD WE DON'T HAVE AN ELECTRICAL FAILURE THERE. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH NOW. MR. MIMMS CAME UP WITH A GREAT IDEA SAYING LET'S LOOK AT IT AS A RESILIENCY FLOATING AND A FLOATING DOCK. IT ELEVATES YOUR MARINA.
IN THE FUTURE YOU HAVE KINGS LANDING GOING IN AND CREATE MORE REVENUES BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO PAY MORE.
A WIN-WIN SITUATION SO -- GO AHEAD.
WITH THAT THIS IS AN THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE WATER LEVELS WE ARE DEALING WITH YOU SEE IT A FIELD DOCK COMING OFF THE THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ARENA IS IN THE DOCK.
ONE DOCK TOTALLY COVERED WITH WATER AND PROPOSING FOR AN INFERNAL BASIN IS A PLAN TO PUT THE FLOATING DOCK SYSTEM IN LOOK POTENTIAL ALLEY DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND LOOK AT THE CONFIGURATION THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE RECONFIGURED AND LARGER VESSELS THAT CREATE MORE REVENUE.
WE WILL LOOK AT PUT TING A EVER WE WILL HAVE.
THAT WILL BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE, A MEAN THAT ON THE FLOATING DOCKS NOW. UPON REQUEST.
SO -- GOING TO THE INTERNAL BASIN.
FLOATING DOCK SYSTEM. WILL GIVE YOU A -- I WILL CALL IT A HOME RUN. THE APPEARANCE BRING THE MAIN ON A WHOLE NEW LEVEL. AND THE MARINA ITSELF IS BECOMING EXTREMELY POPULAR. THERE ARE VARIOUS GRANTS AVAILABLE TO US. THE RESILIENCE GRANTS AND THE FWC GRANTS TO GO AHEAD AND DO THIS.
THE NEXT STEP WE ARE LOOKING AT IS POTENTIALLY WHEN WE GO -- GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE NEXT STEP THERE.
THE NEXT STEP IS WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE PECULIAR REHN I CAN'T ITSELF WITH THE WATER LEVELS COMING UP.
WITH THE WATER LEVELS BECOMING - HIGHER.
WHAT WE ARE STARTING TO SEE IS SOME WAVE ACTION AND SOME WATER LEVELS COMING OVER SOME OF THOSE ISLANDS OVER THERE.
AND AS WELL AS WE HAVE A WAY OF REFLECTION WHEN THE WATER LEVELS GET MUCH HIGHER ON THE EAST, NORTHEAST WE GO TO THE INTERNAL BASISEN AND THIS STARTED THE WHOLE THING.
I WORKED DURING A HURRICANE ONE TIME AND WE SAW THE WAVES COMING IN AND WE SAW ISSUES WITH BOATS CAUSED WITH THE WAVES COMING INSIDE. WHAT I PROPOSED WITH AS TO GO A
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HAHEAD AND CREATE AN EXTENSION. YOU SEE 400 FOOT ALL THE WAY DOWN. THAT IS A WAVE ATTENUATOR.THE SOUTHERNMOST DOCK AND THE DOCK IS WAVE AN TEN WAITERS.
THEIR PURPOSE IS TO KNOCK DOWN THE WAVE ACTION COMING WITHIN THE MARINA. DID THIS.
RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE TWO SOURCES OF PROTECTION TOWARD THE WATERFRONT, TOWARD THE BOATING. ONE IS YOU HAVE THE ISLANDS WHICH, AGAIN THREE LEVEL ONE HURRICANES AND SHOW THE SELF-WORTH WE HAVE IF ZERO DAMAGE WITHIN THE MARINA ITSELF AS WELL AS ALONG THE WATER FRONT, I BELIEVE.
SO -- SO THAT CONCEPT OF PUTTING THE ISLANDS IN HAS BEEN A HOME RUN. NOT ONLY A HOME RUN WHEN IT COMES TO THE OVERALL GENERAL PURPOSE OR PROPOSED USE, BUT IT ALSO CREATED AN ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFIT TO THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON IN THE LOCAL AREA. EVERYTHING HAS TRENDED MUCH HIGHER THAN WE THOUGHT IT WOULD, AS WELL AS THERE HAS BEEN WELL OVER 200 KINDS OF SPECIES FOR MARINE LIFE THAT HAVE BEEN FOUND AROUND THOSE ISLANDS AND WITHIN THE MARINA.
THE MARINA ITSELF IS THE ONLY PLACE I KNOW IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA YOU CAN ACTUALLY WALK THE SEAWALL AND SEE A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF MARINE LIFE WE GET PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD AND ARE FASCINATED ONCE THEY GET TO THE RAILING.
WHAT KIND OF FISH IS THIS? WHAT KIND OF CREATURE IS THAT? ONE MOMENT YOU WILL SEE PORPOISES PLAYING IN THE MARINA.
THE NEXT DAY, YOU MIGHT SEE A SHARK, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, HANGING AROUND FOR A COUPLE OF DAY OR SHEEP'S HEAD OR SNAPPER.
FILLED WITH MARINE LIFE. THE SCHOOLS LIKE COMING DOWN AND UTILIZE THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE ABLE TO SHOW THE KIDS WHAT IS IN THE ACTUAL INDIAN RIVER LAGOON. WHAT I DID IS FORMULATED TWO HYPOTHETICAL SITUATIONS HERE TO LOOK AT TWO DIFFERENT WAYSES.
ONE IS, IF WE WERE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ROUGHLY 1620 LINEAR FOOT OF DOCKAGE WHICH INCLUDES THE WAVE ATTENUATOR AND EXTENDING SOME TO THE NORTH. AND THE SECOND IS TO ADD EVEN SOME FURTHER FEATURES, WHICH 2670 LINEAR FOOTAGE WHICH IS IN THE -- EXCUSE ME, IN THE RED EXCEPTION.
GOING TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE MARINA, AND -- I AM LOOKING TO POTENTIALLY -- CAN WE GO 200 FEET TO THE NORTH ON COUPLE OF THOSE DOCKS? ON A SHORTER DOCK, GO 100 FOOT.
THESE WILL NOT RESTRICT MORRIS CREEK BOAT RAMP AS WELL BECAUSE OF THE PLACEMENT. BOATS ARE STILL COMING AND GOING THE SAME WAY THEY ALWAYS COME AND GO ROAR I DON'T SEE IT TO IMPEDE ANYTHING. THAT IS AN OPTION OUT THERE.
THAT IS EXTREMELY DEEP WATER. ROUGHLY 20 FOOT OF WATER OUT THERE IF NOT GREATER AND THAT WILL ALSO ALLOW US TO HANDLE BIGGER BOATS OUT THERE. THAT THE.
THAT IS GOING TO THE NORTH. GOING TO THE 400-FOOT SECTION, AGAIN, IT WILL ALLOWS US APPEAR DIFFERENTIAL DIFFERENT SIZE VESSEL THAT WE CAN PUT OUT THERE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE MARINA TODAY, WE HAVE ANYWHERE FROM 25-FOOT TO, YOU KNOW, 85, 90-FOOT VESSELS.
I LIKE TO TRY TO STAY WITHIN THAT RANGE.
CAN WE TAKE BIGGER BOATS, YES. IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE DRAFT.
AND WHAT DICTATES THE DRAFT IS THE ENTRANCE CHANNEL OF THE MARINA. AND DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF YEAR WILL DICTATE HOW DEEP WE CAN GO WITH THE DRAFT OF VESSEL.
GOING TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE MARINA, ALL THE WAY TO THE SOUTH SIDE, WE ARE STARTING TO DO MORE TOURNAMENTS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE MARINA. SO WE ARE PROPOSING TO PUT SOME SLIPS OVER THERE. IT IS REALLY NOT UTILIZED.
WE HAVE THAT PINELLAS THAT WE BUILT OVER THERE AND FAIRLY PROTECTED IN THAT AREA. AGAIN, THAT HAS BEEN DESIGNED FOR MULTIUSE. I CAN PUT ONE CATAMARAN IN THAT SLIP OR TWO CENTER CONSOLES IN THERE.
EVERYTHING YOU SEE HERE IS A MULTIUSE SLIP.
THERE IS NO RESTRICTION TO ESSENTIALLY SIZE TYPE OF VESSEL WITH A VESSEL. AND WHAT THAT DOES, IT JUST ALLOWS US TO BRING IN MORE. WE CAN HANDLE THE MAJORITY OF THE REQUEST. AND SPEAKING ABOUT REQUESTS, BACK IN JUNE WE TAKE REQUESTS FOR RESERVATIONS.
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TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THESE ARE THE ONES WE COULD NOT TAKE PAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE ROOM. AND THIS -- THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OVERNIGHT REQUEST, THE WEEKLY REQUEST OR ADDITIONAL MONTHLY REQUEST. THESE ARE JUST TWO MONTHS.THIS IS WHAT WE DO IN JUNE AND JULY IS TAKE ALL THESE REQUESTS.
TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FORMULATE THEM WITHIN THE MARINA. AND THEN ON TOO OF THAT, WE TAKE EVERYTHING ELSE COMING AT US ON A DAILY MONTHLY BASIS.
WITH THAT COMES A DIFFERENT VARIATION OF THE PRICING STRUCTURE. SO THE SHORTER USE AND THE MORE WITH THAT RIGHT NOW, WE ARE ONLY TAKING SEASONAL, MONTHLY AND OVERNIGHT DOCKAGE. RIGHT NOW -- WHICH IS WHAT WE REALLY BENEFIT FROM. REVENUES-WISE, SHORTER STATES, THE MORE MONEY WE MAKE. AS FOR ANNUAL DOCKAGE.
WE HAVEN'T TAKEN OVER ANNUAL DOCKAGE FOR A YEAR PAUSE WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SUPPORT THE MARINA THROUGH THIS OVERNIGHT, MONTHLY, WEEKLY DOCKAGE. IF YOU LOOK AT -- AND I HAVE LOOKED AT THIS AS A PUBLIC FACILITY.
WE HAVE MET THE DEFINITION OF "A PUBLIC FACILITY" WHEN IT COMES TO THE MARINA. THERE ARE NUMBERS THAT WE CAN SHOW YOU HERE THAT WE HAVE HANDLED THE NUMBER ARE, WHAT WE HAVE DEALT WITH, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR.
THERE WAS AN OVERAALL TRANSIENT VESSELS FOR LAST YEAR.
OUR 2022-2023. WE HANDLE 4850 BOATS JUST IN FUELING ALONE. 1800 VESSELS IN DOCKAGE.
WE ARE LITERALLY A 24-7 OPERATION.
AND WE -- WE ARE CONTINUOUSLY WORKING DOCKS WITH POETS COMING IN. NOT LIKE YOU COME INTO A HOTEL ROOM, YOU TAKE YOUR LUGGAGE, AND YOU TAKE UP THE HOTEL ROOM AND YOU ARE DONE. THESE BOATS -- EVERY BOAT THAT DOES COME WITHIN OUR FACILITY OR FACILITIES ARE DIFFERENT THAN MOST FACILITIES. WE REQUIRE STAFF TO BE AT 50OUR FACILITY WITH THEIR VESSEL TO BE THERE TO MAKE SURE THEIR DOCK SOMETHING DONE SAFELY AND MAKE SURE HIS ELECTRIC WORKS.
SO WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, IT IS JUST AN ONGOING, CONTINUOUS VENTURE ON A DAILY BASIS THAT WE HANDLE.
SO WITH THAT, WE ARE TOPPLED WITH -- ON TOP OF THAT -- AROUND US PUBLICLY WISE, WE HAVE ALL THESE EVENTS.
AND THEN WE JUST HAVE FREE-FLOWING PUBLIC TO JUST -- THAT LOVES TO WALK THE FACILITY. SO NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE TO MANUEL OBVIOUSLY THE BOATS COMING IN BUT HANDLING THE PUBLIC ACTIVITIES AND THE PUBLIC WALKING AROUND THAT THEY ARE SAFE AS WELL. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE CHALLENGES. BUT WITH THAT SAID THE MARINA HAS BEEN EXTREMELY POPULAR AND ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR PLACES OF THE CITY. THE WATERFRONT OF FORT PIERCE OFFERS A LOT. WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE A WATERFRONT. A LOT OF CITIES THAT DON'T.
AGAIN, TOEF L-- I HAVE TO LOOK T IT AND I HAVE TO THROW IT IF YOU GUYS ARE INTERESTED IN GOING TO THE NEXT STEP.
THAT IS WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO AND THAT HAVE TO BE WITH YOU TOO. TO DO THIS, I ESSENTIALLY HAVE A ROUGH QUOTE WHAT IT WILL COST FOR DESIGN ENGINEERING PERMITTING AND THE EXTERNAL BASIN.
YOU WILL BE LOOKING AROUND $500,000 TO DO THAT.
INTERNAL IS $35,000. SUCH $535,000 BASICALLY IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR. WITH THAT, THERE ARE GRANTS AVAILABLE FROM DIFFERENT GRANT AGENCIES.
FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATION DISTRICT.
ST. LUCIE COUNTY QUALIFIES FOR OVER $800,000 A YEAR TO DO GRANTS. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THAT IN A WHILE. THE MARINA HAS UTILIZED IT IN THE PAST AND THAT IS USUALLY SOMETHING THAT WE WORK WITH ST.
LUCIE COUNTY TO SAY, HEY, IT IS OUR TURN TO GO AHEAD AND UTILIZE THAT. MONEY COMES FROM THIS FROM BOAT REGISTRATION. SO THAT'S WHERE THE FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATION DISTRICT GETS THEIR REVENUES FROM.
RESILIENT FLORIDA PROGRAM WILL HANDLE THE INTERNAL BASIN.
AND WE WILL LOOK TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY GRANTS OUT.
ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, I DO NOT KNOW THE PERCENTAGES OF HOW MUCH THE CITY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE VERSUS THESE GRANTS, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DUG THAT DEEP INTO IT YET AND I'M NOT A GRANT EXPERT AND JUST SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH.
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THE NEXT ONE IS THE BOATING INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT.IF YOU LOOK AT THE TIER 2, THE MAX THAT A CITY CAN GET A $1.5 MILLION. AND IT IS -- IT IS A 75/25.
HYPOTHETICALLY IF THE PROJECT WAS $3 MILLION, THEN THE STATE WOULD END UP -- THE BOATING GRANT WILL PAY UP TO $1.5 MILLION. AND WITH THAT, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO TAKE ANOTHER GRANT ON TOP OF THAT AND COUPLE THE TWO TOGETHER TO -- TO GO AHEAD AND COMBINE THEM TO GO AHEAD TO COVER MORE OF THESE COSTS. GO AHEAD.
TO COVER THE PUMP-OUT SYSTEMS IN THE MARINA TALKING OF ADDING ON TO THE INTERNAL BASIS AND SUCH, WE HAVE OUR CLEAN MARINA VESSEL ACT SO THEY WILL, AGAIN, PAY FOR 75% OF THAT.
SO WITH THAT, THE FINAL SLIDE SHOWS BASICALLY WHAT OUR CAPITAL -- WHAT OUR DEBT IS AT THE MARINA.
AND BASICALLY THE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE ASSOCIATED WITH THE RATES ARE 2023. THOSE WERE THE REVENUES FOR 2023. SO YOU CAN RUN THE MATH ANYWAY YOU WANT DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.
I CAN TELL YOU THESE NUMBERS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT ARE AT OUR OLD RATES. SINCE THEN â– WE HAVE COMEUP AGAIN AND THE RATES WITH THE MARINA. WHY DO WE COME UP WITH ADDITIONAL RATES WITH THE MARINA? BECAUSE OF DEMAND ON THE FACILITY.
EVEN THOUGH WE WENT UP WITH THE NEW RATES, AGAIN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE REQUEST -- EVEN THOUGH THESE PEOPLE KNEW WE WENT UP AGAIN -- IT JUST CONTINUES. AND IT CONTINUES ON A DAILY BA BASIS.
SO WITH THAT, WITH THAT -- WHAT BROUGHT THE POP LATER -- POPULARITY OF THE FACILITY IS THE LOCATION IN DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE. THESE BOAT EFFORTS ARE LOOKING FOR SMALL TOWNS. THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO PULLED IN A SAY I WANT TO STAY ANOTHER DAY, ANOTHER WEEK, ANOTHER MONTH, I SPENT TO SPEND THREE MONTHS, IT JUST CONTINUES.
UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE TO TELL THEM WE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE WE ARE LIKE A HOTEL. WHEN WE ARE LIKE A HOTEL, WHEN THAT ROOM HAS BEEN RENTED UP BEYOND YOUR TIME OF STAY, WE REALLY WISH WE COULD. THEY SAY WE WILL MOVE DOWN THE RIFRDZ A-- RIVER AND COME BACK N ANOTHER TWO OR THREE MONTHS AND COME BACK TO SEE YOU. HUGE SUCCESS STORY.
THE CITY, THE WATERFRONT HAS BEEN A BIG PART OF IT.
ALL THE OFFERINGS THAT THE DOWNTOWN STORES HAVE.
THEY OFFER THESE TENANTS. SO I -- I -- I ALWAYS BELIEVED THAT -- AND THE CITY COMMISSION HAS ALWAYS LOOKED AT, WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THE FACILITY.
MAKE IT BETTER AND BET AIR AND DRIVES MORE ECONOMIC IMPACT.
MORE ECONOMIC IMPACT BECAUSE OF ITS -- NOT JUST THAT MARINA BUT ALL THE MARINAS IN THE AREA. DINGIES.
YES, WE HAVE A DINGY. WE RECEIVED A FWC GRANT FOR A DINGY RAMP. THEY COME ANY TIME THEY WANT BUT THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO STAY OVERNIGHT WITH THE DINGY.
WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN IT UP WITH ANY DISCUSSIONS THAT
ANYBODY MIGHT HAVE. >> QUELLS OF MR. CUBECHEK? WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST? GO AHEAD.
>> INQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW, HOW MUCH OPPORTUNITY LOSS DO WE HAVE IN THAT GREEN PHOTO RIGHT THERE?
>> I DON'T THINK THIS IS A FAIR EVALUATION BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF BOATS WE TURN DOWN ON A DAILY BASIS.
>> OKAY. >> TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
WHAT WE CAN DO IS, LIKE, PUT NUMBERS TO THAT IF YOU ARE
>> SEND AN E-MAIL OF THAT AND MAYBE GO BACK WITH THE PREVIOUS REQUEST MAYBE TO TRY TO QUANTIFY THAT.
>> THAT HELPS ME WITH MY MIND TO SEE THAT THOSE ARE ALL OPPORTUNITIES THERE TO HHELP OFFSET WHAT YOU PUT BEFORE US TO EXPAND TO ACCOMMODATE TO WORK AS A BUSINESS DAYS.
THAT IS A THICK FOLDER AND FOR PEOPLE WANTING TO GET IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. THEY NOT ONLY DOCK HERE.
THEY EAT HERE. DO OTHER THINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT PROVIDE AN ECONOMIC STIMULUS.
THAT IS WHERE MY MIND GOES WHEN I SEE OPPORTUNITY LIKE THAT.
COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. >> I WAS GOING TO WAIT FOR EVERYBODY ELSE TO GO BECAUS I AM A BIG FAN OF THIS WHOLE PROJECT. AND I KNOW I AM GOING TO BE CHEERLEADER HERE FOR THIS. COUPLE OF POINTS TO NOTES THE CITY MANAGER SENT AROUND A MEMORANDUM LAST WEEK OUTLINING DEBT. THIS IS A COMPELLING DISCUSSION ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE MARINA.
OUR DEBT SERVICE IS MINIMAL. TERMS OUT IN APPROXIMATELY SIX YEARS. IT IS PAID IN FULL.
;; HOWEVER HOWEVER, THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WHEN YOUR DEBT INDICATOR A .126. WHAT WE ARE PAYING ON THE MARINA
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DEBT. WE ARE USING FREE MONEY TO FINANCELESS ORIGINAL IMPROVEMENTS AT THE MARINA BASED ON THE ANALYSIS THAT DEAN HAS PROVIDED.INDICATES CLEARLY THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT DEMAND FOR MORE SERVICE. THE MARINA IS A JEWEL OF THE CITY. A JEWEL OF THE ENTIRE ATLANTIC COAST OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA. INCREASING THAT REVENUE STREAM.
A TO THE MARINA BY EXPANDING CAPABILITIES.
B, CREATING RESILIENCY TO CREATE THE MARINA WHICH OBVIOUSLY DICTATES MORE REVENUE BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO BE BE IN A SAFE SPOT. ALL THAT ADDITIONAL REVENUE BEING DRIVEN INTO THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES AND IF WE WERE LOOKING AT SITUATION WHERE THE MARINA WAS 75% CAPACITY.
85% CAPACITY. I WOULD SIT THERE AND QUESTION IT. WE ARE OVERSXAFT BY A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT WHICH ULTIMATELY -- I THINK DEAN WAS LEADING TO. INCREASES SLIP COSTS.
SO, AGAIN, BASED ON THE FIXED STRUCTURES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
WE ARE ENHANCING POUR REVENUE STREAMS. I BELIEVE THAT THE DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE RATIO HERE WILL BE MINIMAL. AND THAT IS DICTATED MORE WHAT WE WILL SECURE ON GRANTS. EVEN IF WE ARE BONDING THIS ENTIRE PROJECT OUT, GUYS, THIS IS A NO BRAINER.
THE DEBT SERVICE RATIO BASED ON INCOME STREAM EVEN EVEN CLOSE.
A RETURN ON INVESTMENT, ETC. I CONSIDER THIS TO SHALL A WIN-WIN. JUST NOT THAT.
THE NUMBERS ARE ONE THING. ADDITIONAL BENEFITS THAT THE MARINA PROVIDES FOR NOTE RIGHT FOR THE CITY.
THE INCREASED CAPACITY OF OUR SERVICES TO THE ENTIRE BOATING COMMUNITY, PROTECTING OUR WATERWAYS, ETC., ALL NEEDS TO BE FOCUSED TO OUR EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE MARINA.
THE PERFECT CASE STUDY FOR THIS AND I CONSIDER IT AS A WIN, WIN ACROSS THE BOARD. I WILL GO WITH OPTION B. EXPAND IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND GET IT AS COMPLETELY RESILIENT AS WE POSSIBLY CAN. AND TO BUMP OUT CAPABILITIES.
A FIRST CLASS FACILITY. WE WILL MAKE IT AN INTERNATIONAL FIRST-CLASS FACILITIES BY CONTINUING THESE IMPROVEMENTS MOVING FORWARD AND I COULD NOT BE MORE EXCITED OF THE POSSIBILITIES HERE THIS GIVES US TO PROTECT OUR WATERWAYS, PROTECT OUR BOATING COMMUNITY, GENERATE ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR THE CITY. GENERATE ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR THE PER CHANTS OF THE CITY. NO DOWNSIDE TO THIS.
IF WE LOOK AT THIS AND SAY THIS IS HIGH RISK WHICH WAS INITIALLY WHEN DISCUSSED BY THE CITY COMMISSION, THAT WAS A PRETTY BRAVE MOVE TO RECONSTRUCT IN THAT CAPACITY.
WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD ON THAT SUCCESS AND MAKE THIS FACILITY ONE F A OF A KIND. VERY FEW MARINAS THAT ARE MARRIED OF A DOWNTOWN. I GET IT.
CREATES PARKING ISSUES. WE DON'T DEAL WITH THAT TODAY, ETC. BUT THE MANAGEMENT OF THE MARINA TO THE DOWNTOWN MARKET TO THE PEDESTRIAN-FRIENDLINESS OF OUR FACILITY, ETC. IS THE PERF ECONOMIC STORM.
I'M TLIMD THFD PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU FOR GETTING INTO MINUTIA WITH. A LOT OF THEM TERM OUT WITHIN FOUR MONTH OF THE NEW YEAR. IT WILL DO US A BENEFIT TO GUILTY GOING ON THAT. AND THE ENTIRE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS OF BONDING AND ALL CAN BE DEALT WITH AS MORE INFORMATION IS FORTHCOMING. TO GIVE THEM THE GREEN LIGHT TO MOVE ALL OF THIS FORWARD. I AM ON BOARD.
I WILL TAKE OFF MY CHEER LEADER POM-POMS NOW.
>> I AGREE. THIS IS VERY EXCITING.
I WAS READING THE BACK-UP. I WAS GETTING EXCITED.
I WAS SIGHING THAT. AND DEAN, YOU JUST -- YOU HAVE JUST GIVEN US A PICTURE OF THE DEMAND AND THE POSSIBILITIES.
AN I -- I THINK THAT IS WONDERFUL.
PLUS YOU ARE TAKING ON THIS OTHER OPERATION OF TRYING TO KEEP OUR WATERWAYS CLEAN WITH THE HELP OF THE COUNTY AND ACKNOWLEDGING AS A CITY HOW IMPORTANT THE WATERWAYS WILL BE TO US WITH WAY WE NEED TO DO IF PART OF THE PROBLEM OF THE ANCHORING PROBLEM IS, THERE ARE NOWHERE FOR VESSELS TO DOCK.
IT IS BECOMING VERY LIMITED BECAUSE DEMAND IS HIGH.
WHERE DO THEY GO. AND I TALKED TO -- I HAD TO ASK A PERSON TO LEAVE THE OTHER DAY AND THEY SAID WE CAN'T FIND SLIP
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AT ALL SOUTH OF STUART AND IT WAS A SMALLER VESSEL WHICH I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING. THE KEY OF THIS FACILITY AND WHAT WE ARE DOING, WE HAVE A LOT OF FLEX.AND WE DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC SLIPS -- SPECIFIC SLIPS FIT CERTAIN SI VESSEL.
.THE SIZE, TYPE WE CAN HANDLE EVERYTHING IS ASSOCIATED UNTIL IT COMES TO DRAFT. AND WHAT WE DO WITH THE DRAFT IS TO DREDGE THE CHANNEL DEEPER AND COST A FAR GREATER AMOUNT OF MONEY AND SOMETHING IN THE FEW COMMUTER YOU GUYS CAN DETERMINE.
BUT WITH THAT, WHAT THE PORT HAS TO OFFER AND WHETHER THEY ARE HEAD, THEY ARE DEFINITELY I BELIEVE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. AND WITH THAT WE ARE WORKING MORE AND MORE WITH THE PORT DIRECTOR.
BUT THE QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, THESE VESSELS COME OFF THE OCEAN AND THEY HAVE GOT NOWHERE TO GO AND THEY WANT TO BE HERE AGAIN I'M LOOKING AT ECONOMIC IMPACT. I LOOK APT THEIR BENEFIT.
A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER HAVE EX-PENDABLE INCOME. THEY ARE RETIRED DOCTORS, DENTISTS, ENGINEERS, A LOT OF THEM.
WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS THIS IS ALSO A CHOICE OF LIFE.
THEY HAVE CHOSE TO GO AHEAD AND LIVE THE NEXT TEN, 15 YEARS ON A VESSEL AND EXPERIENCE DIFFERENT THINGS UP AND DOWN A COAST.
WITH THAT, IT CAN BENEFIT CITY OF FORT PIERCE.
I HAVE A LOT OF VESSELS THAT HAVE PULLED IN HERE AND ACTUALLY BOUGHT HOMES HERE OR CONDOMINIUMS. SO THEY LOVE FORT PIERCE SO MUCH SO THERE IS A SPINOFF OF ECONOMIC IMPACT. THESE PEOPLE WILL ACTUALLY WANT TO GET OUT OF THE BOATS. THEY SELL THE BOATS AND TO BUY A HOUSE LOCALLY IN TOWN AND THEY HAVE GROWN USE TO THE AREA AND
LOVE IT. >> THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR FORT FIERCE AND YOU HAVE DONE SUCH A WONDERFUL JOB.
ANYBODY ELSE? >> COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
THANK YOU. EXCITED ABOUT THE PROGRAM AND THE OPPORTUNITY YOU GOT. LET'S DIAL IN SPECIFICALLY TO THE MARINE UNIT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO CALL IT. YOU WILL COME UP WITH A NAME.
IT SEEMS LIKE AN APPROPRIATE NAME BUT I LIKE THE IDEA IT IS MULTIUSE, WHETHER IT IS -- YOUR DEPARTMENT OR CODE ENFORCEMENT OR -- EVEN THE PEE DEE, BEING ABLE TO USE THE VESSEL WITH WHATEVER IS THE CAPTAIN. DOESN'T MATTER TO ME.
MULTIUSE VESSEL IS -- IS IMPORTANT.
WE ARE AT THAT POINT SO I APPRECIATE THE PROPOSAL AND THE RESEARCH OF THAT. LOOKING INTO THE OPTIONS.
I AM SURE IT IS NOT CHEAP. NOT THAT ANY VESSEL IS CHEAP TODAY, BUT IT IS NEEDED. AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO PUT IT TO USE IN MULTIPLE VENUES AND MULTIPLE ACTION ITEMS AND STEPS, SO BE IT. A GOOD OPPORTUNITY.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE EXPANSION.
JUST LOOKING AT THE PICTURE YOU HAVE ON THE SCREEN.
THE FACE OF INDIAN RIVER DRIVE WILL CHANGE.
MORRIS CREEK BRIDGE IS IT GOING TO CHANGE AT SOME.
SO, YOU KNOW, AND JUST -- IN LOOKING AT ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE NOW, I THINK IT IS GREAT. KYLE, WELCOME TO THE TEAM.
I HAVEN'T TALKED TO YOU SINCE YOU HAVE BEEN ON BOARD.
EXCITED THAT YOU ARE HERE TOO WITH DEAN.
HE HAS A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE IN THAT HEAD OF HIS.
SO HOPEFULLY WE WILL RELEASE SOME OF THAT INTO THE SPONGE
THAT HE HAS UP THERE. >> GETTING IT ALL.
>> HE IS GETTING IT ALL. >> AND, YOU KNOW, IN ADDITION TO WHAT HE AND HOW JUSTIN LED IT OFF TALK OF THE BENEFITS, THE FIS BENEFITS AND THE PERKS AND HOW WE ARE PROTECTING OUR PEACHES AND WATERFRONTS WITH THE LAGOON IN ADDITION TO THE INLET ITSELF. A LOT OF THE OPPORTUNITY AND A LOT OF BENEFIT AND A LOT OF THE I SIT ON THE T,TDC, THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL. AND TO UTILIZED THE WATER WAYS AND IT IS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY. SO.
-- THERE IS A LOT GOING ON AND OH, BY THE WAY, I WILL JUST LET YOU INTO A SMALL LITTLE PEEK INTO MY BRAIN THAT AT SOME POINT. IT WILL HURT A LOT OF FEELINGS AND TALK ABOUT THE PARKING THAT IS RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PICTURE. IT IS ON THE SCREEN.
WALKING ON THE WATERFRONT. AND I -- I JUST HAVE NEVER BEEN A FAN OF PAVEMENT UP TO THE WATER FRONT.
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YOU AND I MIGHT NOT BE HERE. WHO KNOWS.WE ALL MAY BE RETIRED BY THEN. WE LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPE OF OUR FRONT FRONT, ALL IMPORTANT COMPONENTS.
AND LITTLE. TOURISM OF A DIFFERENT EFFECT.
THEY COME FROM THE CAUSEWAY AND PADDLE ACROSS THE INTERCOASTAL AND GOING TO MORRIS CREEK. AND A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY HERE AND APPRECIATE YOUR DILL GLENS, AGAINST AND HARD WORK.
>> UNLESS THERE ARE ANY OBJECTION WE ARE YOU WILL FOR GOING FULL SPEED AHEAD. I AM NOT AGAINST DEBT.
I AM NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DEBT EXCEPT THAT I THINK SO GLAD YOU HAVE THE VISION AND ALL SPEED A HHEAD.
>> MADAM MERE AND NUMBERING NUMBERS OF COMMISSION.
THE NEED NOR A HIGH-QUALITY HOTEL.
THAT MAN THERE DEAN CUPERCHECK. AND NOW TIME TO INVEST IN THAT AND MAINTAIN IT, UPGRADE IT AND PROTECT IT.
WE ARE ALL FOR IT. WE SHALL MOVE FORWARD.
I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK AND WE HAVE GOT THE FINANCING CAPACITY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. WE WILL GIVE YOU UPDATES AS WE
PROCEED. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, APPRECIATE YOUR
[d. Mayor and City Commission Board and Committee assignments for 2024]
TIME. >> THANK YOU, MR. REVORT.
>> WE ARE DONE NOW? >> NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSION BOARD AND COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS
FOR 2024. >> COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS.
>> EVERYBODY ONE OF THESE BIG SH
SHEETS. >> I WANT TO START OUT I AM AN ALTERNATE FOR TPO. IF EVERYBODY CAN'T MAKE THEIR MEETINGS TREASURE COAST OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAPPY TO SWITCH IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO GIVE SOMETHING UP, THE ONLY THING I CAN NOT DO IS THE TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL BECAUSE IT INTERFERES WITH COFFEE WITH THE MAYOR I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE HAVE THINGS ON THEIR PLATE AND MAKES IT HARD FOR PEOPLE TO ATTEND THINGS. AND LET ME KNOW HOW I CAN HELP
I AM COMFORTABLE WITH ALL OF MY COMMITTEES AT THIS POINT.
THE CHAMBER IS ONE OF MY TOUGHER ONES TO ATTEND.
TERESA AND HER ORGANIZATION FULLY, BUT AS FAR AS THE DBA I ADDED THAT ONE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
SO -- SO -- >> YOU ARE HAPPY WITH THAT?
>> I AM HAPPY WITH THAT TPO FLORIDA IN MY WHEEL HOUSE.
I AM VOLUNTOLD TO DO THINGS EVERY WEEK.
>> YES YOU HAVE. >> I CAN'T DO THE FACEBOOK STUFF. YEAH.
>> I AM GOOD. >> ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO CHANGE OR ANYBODY ELSE HAVE PROBLEMS OR EVERYBODY ELSE KEEP WHAT THEY HAVE? COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON, YOU ARE VICE-CHAIR OF THE TPO, YOU MISSED THE MEETING THAT IS WHAT
[5. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]
HAPPENS. EVERYBODY HAPPY? EVERYBODY HAPPY. OKAY.>> THAT WAS EASY. >> NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM
THE PUBLIC. >> THIS IS TIME FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE YOU CAN LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY SUBJECT YOU WANT TO ADDRESS US. AND YOU WILL BE GIVEN A - THREE-SECOND WARNING FROM MISS COX.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND HERE COMES MR. BUZZ SMITH WHO NEEDS NO INTRODUCTION, BUT HE HAS TO DO IT ANYWAY FOR THE
RECORD. >> HAROLD SMITH, CAUSEWAY COVE MARINA. I WOULD LIKE $10 MILLION TO FIX UP MY MARINA. CAN YOU PASS THAT ALONG FOR ME TODAY? YOU ARE NOT HITTING THAT ONE.
>> THEY ARE TALKING OF THE DERELICT BOATS, MOORED BOATS.
IN THE LAST YEAR WE HAD A DOZEN BOATS COME FREE FROM TH
THEIR MOORING, ANCHOR ING. >> WE HAVE THE ONLY LE LEGAL MOARING. AND IT IS IMPORTANT.
AND A LOT OF TIMES, PEOPLE HAVE THIS GRANDEUR IDEA OR THE DREAM
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OF LIVING ON A BOAT. THEY TRY IT FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS AND NOT AS GLAMOROUS AS WHAT THEY EXPECTED AND WHAT THEY HAVE SEEN IN THE MOVIE. BOATS WITH THE MASS LAYING OFF OF THEM. THEY HAVE BOATS THAT HAVE PROBABLY IN THE WATERWAY FOR THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN YEARS. THERE HAS TO BE SOME MECHANISM TO MOVE THESE BOATS OR MOVE THEM ALONG.WHEN A BOAT IS ABANDONED AT OUR MARINA, WE HAVE SELF-OPTIONS.
WE CAN GO AFTER THE TITLE AND GO TO SETO AND ONE OF THE OTHER BOAT OPERATORS. AND THEY HAVE A MECHANISM FOR TOWING THESE BOATS OUT BUT THE DAMAGE DONE IS NOT CHEAP, IT IS IN THE TENS THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THE DAMAGE IT GETS DONE.
SOME OF THESE NICER BOATS. YOU GET A SALE BOAT THAT BREAKS FREE FROM JUST IN LAST WIND. WE CLOCKED THE WIND TWO WEEKS AGO, SIX WEEK AGO. 60-MILE-PER-HOUR WINDS THAT HIT US OFF THE BAT. AND ONE OF THESE BOATS COME IN AND RAM INTO A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR BOAT.
IT IS NOT A CHEAP FIX. BUT THE PERSON THAT OWNS THAT BOAT DOESN'T HAVE THE FINANCES TO REPAIR IT AND NOT ON OUR INSURANCE COMPANY. NOT ON OUR INSURANCE COMPANY BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY INSURANCE.
THIS IS A REAL PROBLEM. AND THERE ARE SO MANY OF THESE BATS OUT THERE THAT WE JUST CAN'T TELL YOU THAT ALMOST EVERY BOAT YOU SEE OUT THERE IS LAID DOWN THE SIDE OF THE ISLAND AND NEEDS TO BE MOVED OUT OF THE WAY BECAUSE A HAZARD TO LIFE, LIMB AND PROPERTY AND THE WHOLE NINE YARDS.
I LOVE THE EXPANSION AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I REALLY LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT IS THAT DEAN IS HAVING PROBLEM WITH HIS ELECTRIC AND HIGHER TIDES. WE HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM AND DOING THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA AND I GUESS THAT MEANS MY TIME IS UP. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? PLEASE COME FORWARD. MR. HAYEK, WE KNOW YOU TOO.
>> I AM CHARLIE HAYEK TO SPEAK OF LITTLE JIM.
I AM SO PLEASED YOU VOTED TO PRESERVE IT AND DESIGNATE IT AS A HISTORICAL PROPERTY. JEERS AGO WHEN LESLIE OLSON WAS OUR HISTORICAL PRESERVATION OFFICER.
SHE KEPT AN AL BUM OF ALL THE BUILDINGS DEMOLISHED IN FORT PIERCE. IT WAS A I REALLY SAD LIST OF BUILDINGS. BECAUSE EVERY TIME YOU LOSE A BUILDING. Y YOU. YOU LOSE A PIECE OR HEART OF YOUR CITY. IT IS IMPORTANT TO DO THIS.
TRYING TO DESIGNATE EDGARTOWN AS HISTORICAL.
TO POINT OUT WHAT VALUE HISTORICAL DESIGNATION HAS ON A SITE. AND NOBODY MENTIONED IN THE TALKS THAT BEING T HISTORICAL BEING DES DESIGNATED ALLOWS CERTAIN PROVISIONS FOR INFILL TIN FILL ON THE PROPERTY AND THE RULES ARE ELSE WILL STRINGENT. SET -BACK REQUIREMENTS.
PERCENTAGES OF LAND THAT CAN BE FILLED AND A BENEFIT TO BEING HISTORICAL. AND WE SHOULD GO ALONG WITH THAT AND MOVE THAT WAY. I CAN'T ASK QUESTIONS OF THE COMMISSION. BUT IS IT POSSIBLE TO DO A LICENSING AGREEMENT WITH THE EXISTING TENANT AND MAYBE COME TO HIGHER RENTS CHARGE ARE OR WHATEVER SOMETHING MOVE FORWARD SOMETHING YOU WILL HAVE IT DISCUSS AMONG YOURSELVES.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING IT THE DESIGNATION.
>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. ANYONE ELSE? POLICE CON THAT CALL CUE, YOU NEED NO INTRODUCTION EITHER AND
SAY YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. >> DONNA, 33 HARBOR ISLE WEST 234 FORT PIERCE. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE COMMENTED TO.
I JUST BAILSCALLY WANTED TO FOR ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T KNOW JUST SOME OF THE HISTORY AND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT PROPERTY.
IT STATES BACK TO WORLD WAR. THE GUARD SHACK FOR THE NAVY SEALS WHICH IS SUPER IMPORTANT. YOU NEED TO REMEMBER HOW
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HISTORICAL THAT WE ARE A WAS TO US DEFINITELY PLAYED A ROLE IN SHAPING OUR NATION'S HISTORY PRESERVING THAT SITE HAS DIRECT CONNECTION TO THAT PERIOD AND ALLOWS US TO HONOR THE SACRIFICESES THAT THOSE PEOPLE MADE.THE OTHER THING IS, IT WILL EDUCATE PEOPLE WHAT THAT WITH A WAS. WE ARE CLOSE TO THE NAVY SEAL MUSEUM. IT IS ABOUT TWO MILES FROM US.
WE HAVE A REALLY GREAT RAPPORT FOR THOSE PEOPLE.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COME THERE.
AND THEY COME -- DO GO TO THE MUSEUM THE OTHER THING IS ALL THE MEMORIES. COMMISSIONER GAINES MENTIONED TO FISH. MIKE REALS, I DON'T KNOW IF HE IS HERE. HE MET HIS WIFE THERE.
I HEAR STORIES OF THAT CONTINUOUSLY.
AND AGAIN, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KEEP IT WHAT IT IS WE ALL APPRECIATE HOW SPELLINGS IT IS. THAT IS ALL I HAVE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING A PART OF OUR HISTORY. THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE IT. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS
[6. City Commission Boards and Committees Updates]
THE COMMISSION. PLEASE COME FORWARD.SEEING NO MOVEMENT, WE WILL MOVE ON.
>> NEXT WE HAVE CITY BOARD AND COMMITTEE UPDATES.
. >> WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST.
VOLUNTEER? COMMISSIONER GAINES.
>> SINCE I HAVE THE LIST IN FRONT OF ME, LET'S SEE HERE.
WE -- THE TREASURE COAST SFPS COUNCIL OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT MET AND OUR SPEAKER WAS THE SUPERINTENDENT FROM INDIAN RIVER, AND HE TALKED ABOUT THE CHANGES HE MADE TO INDIAN RIVER AND HOW HE WANTS TO MAKE INDIAN RIVER THE BEST SCHOOL BOARD KIND
OF IN -- I KNOW, I NKNOW. >> COMPETITION, RIGHT.
>> WE WERE CALL WITH IT. THE COUNCIL OF AGING REPORTED ON THAT LAST TIME. THE ROUND TABLE OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY. I HAVEN'T GONE YET COMMISSIONER JOHNSON BECAUSE THE TWO FRIDAYS I HAVE BEEN ON THE ROAD AND TALKED TO THEM THAT WE HAD TO MAKE AN APPEARANCE.
I WILL BE TO THE NEXT ONE. THE RETIREMENT BOARD.
WE HAVEN'T MET. >> YOU MISSED THE LAST ONE.
>> I WAS IN D.C. THAT IS THE ONE I MISSED AND I WAS SIGNED UP OR THINK I AM SIGNING UP FOR THE LAST WHATEVER. WHATEVER THE LAST CLASS IS.
>> CERTIFICATION. >> MY LAST CERTIFICATION.
I WILL DO THAT. THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY HOMELESS COMMITTEE, SURTAX ADVISORY COMMITTEE, I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE THAT A -- A OFFICIAL COMMITTEE WAITING ON THE COUNTY TO MAKE THAT DECISION AND WILL LET US KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WITH THE -- WITH OUR ADVISORY COMMITTEE AFTER THEY GIVE OUR REPORT.
I KNOW IT IS DUE SOON, ISN'T IT? YEAH, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE SOMETHING IN -- I THOUGHT DECEMBER BUT MAYBE JANUARY.
I KNOW -- I KNOW THE REPORT IS FINALIZED IN THE COMMITTEE.
I DON'T KNOW ANYONE IS COMING TO -- TO THE FULL BOARD FOR OUR FOR OUR FOR YOU ARE INPUT. AT THAT POINT, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WILL MAKE THAT A PERMANENT COMMITTEE OR NOT.
SO I WILL WAIT. THE TREASURE COAST EDUCATION RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY I HAVEN'T MET.
AND WHATEVER IT NEEDS -- WHETHER WE ARE READY TO MEET.
I WILL BE READY AND REPORT BACK TO THE COMMISSION.
I NEED TO MAKE ONE COMMENT. AS A COMMISSION AND IN MY DISTRICT. I WANTED TO PIT OUT THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE DIRT BIKE GOING AROUND THE CITY.
I KNOW I WILL GET A LOT OF E-MAIL BEINGS IT, BUT WE JUST A -- A TRAGEDY, A HOMICIDE FRIDAY I THINK IT WAS THURSDAY OR FRIDAY I THINK IT WAS WHERE ONE -- YOU KNOW SOMEONE WAS RACING AND CRASHED INTO A VEHICLE. IF YOU ARE DRIVING AROUND THE
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CITY AND AT THIS TIME WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT AND SEE AT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY MAD AND TRIER TO PROTECT LIVES.AND MADAM MAYOR, THOSE ARE OUR UPDATES.
>> COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON, IF YOU WANT TO GO NEXT.
>> COMMISSIONER, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE TACKLE THAT -- YEAH, IT
BULLET-PROOF. >> YOUNG AND BULLET-PROOF AND THE SOCIETY WE LIVE IN, YOU KNOW, IT IS TRICKY.
I DON'T KNOW. >> I WANTED TO BRING IT TO OUR
ATTENTION. >> I WAS YOUNG AND CRAZY AT ONE POINT IN MY LIFE TOO. LET'S SEE.
TPO, THE OTHER DAY COMMISSIONER C JOHNSON.
YOU ARE THE VICE-CHAIR NOW. WE ARE IN THAT ROW OCCASION SO THE CITY IS THIS. YES, IT IS GOOD STUFF.
BUT THE TPO WE HAD ON OUR BOARD AGENDA, A RESOLUTION TO SUPPORT THE STATION HERE IN FORT PIERCE. IN ADDITION TO THAT ATTENDING -- WHILE ON THE JUAN DRYLINE CONVERSATION, CITY OF PORT ST.
LOUISE IS TONIGHT AND THEY HAVE ON THEIR AGENDA LETTER OF SUPPORT. AND I WILL ATTEND THAT CITY COUNCIL MEETING TONIGHT. LET'S SEE.
AS FAR AS THE TDC, I ACTUALLY -- I HAVE GOT TO BE OUT OF TOWN.
TDC WILL MEET ON WEDNESDAY. AND ON WEDNESDAY, I ASKED CHARLOTTE -- SHE HAD A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THIS.
THE BRIGHT LINE STATION, NUMBER ONE AND DISCUSSION.
I TALKED TO MR. MIMMS ABOUT IT. BECAUSE I CAN ATTEND THE MEETINGS AND I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEONE ON THE COMMISSION WANTS TO ATTEND, BUT MR. MIMMS, WILL HAVE A STAFF MEMBER PRESENT AT THE MEETING BECAUSE THE SECOND ITEM IS -- AND I ASKED CHARLOTTE. WILL BEIN CON FLORIDA THE IM WI MY TRAVEL, BUT FOR DESIGNATED CITY.
WHATEVER WE CAN DO FROM THE 234U8 TFS-- THE TDC.
>> I MAY BE ABLE TO GO IF YOU WANT SOMEONE FROM THE COMMISSION
TO GO. >> SHOULD BE AT 12:30 AT
THE BCC. >> I WILL LOOK AT MY CALENDAR
CHAIRMAN PER NOTHING NEW TO REPORT.
MANY STREET FORT PIERCE. WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
A VERY SUCCESSFUL HOLIDAY SEASON.
OF COURSE CHRISTMAS WITH PARADE. MAIN TAP STREET JUST CONTINUES TO GET OUT THERESTREET JUST CON GET OUT THERE AND PERFORM WITH EXCELLENCE. WE HAVE A VERY ACTIVE BOARD AND I LOVE THE WORK THEY DO. THEY PUT ME TO WORK ON THE TECH SIDE. I VOLUNTEER FOR IT AND AT THE SAME TIME, I AM AT -- NO, IT'S ALL RIGHT.
I WILL KEEP WORKING. BUT MAIN STREET JUST CONTINUES TO TO A LOT OF GREAT THINGS AND LOOKING AT NEW OPPORTUNITIES WHETHER IT IS -- YOU KNOW, CITIZEN HANSING THE DOWNTOWN CORRIDORS AND WHETHER AN EXPANSION OR DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS. EVERYBODY IS EXCITED WHAT IS HAPPENING THERE. AS MR. MIMMS, THE FIVE-STAR HOTEL ON THE WATER THAT THE CITY HAVE THE FIRE FIGHTERS FROM NEW YEAR'S EVE. HARD TO BELIEVE SECOND WEEK OF DECEMBER AND COMING UP SOON. OUTSIDE OF THAT, NOTHING NEW TO
REPORT. >> COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON, YOU
WANT TO COME NEXT. >> YES, I WILL TALK OF THE FIRE BOARD. A NEW STATION DEDICATED.
I THINK YOU WERE THERE THE ST. LOUIS COUNTY SELECTION COMMITTEE. WE HAVE BEEN ACTIVE AND MET A NUMBER OF SOMETIMES. I CIRCULATE THROUGH MRS. COX POTENTIAL LAND ACQUISITIONS IN THE COUNTY AND WE WILL NEED TO BE UPDATED BECAUSE OF THAT AND I AM HEAP WITH THE DIRECTION.
MR. REVORT. HE CAME AROUND MET WITH ME AND HE IS VERY UNTRACK WITH WHERE I AM GOING.
LIRN CON PARK MAIN STREET HAD A HEALTH AND WELLNESS EVENT ON THE
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MORRIS CREEK ALONG WITH OTHER ACTIVITIES.WE HAVE SEEN THE RETURN OF THE JAZZ ON MORE RISZ CREEK.
VERY WELL ATTENDED. AND WE ARE GETTING READY FOR CHRISTMAS ON MORRIS CREEK COMING UP AS WELL.
LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET IS DOING AS WELL AND NEW PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD. DR. DAVID WASHINGTON HAS JOINED IN THE PLACEMENT MR. FRANK WATKINS AND I THE 5-K WALK-RUN THAT WAS DONE HAS BEEN RENAMED FOR FRANK IN HIS HONOR.
AND SOME WE ARE HAPPY THAT WE WILL DAYBREAK PLACE OR HAVE TAKEN PLACE. THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY PLACE ON MPO. I WILL BE TALKING TO COMMISSIONER BRODERICK AND GET ACRONYMS FROM TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL. OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S FOR ME AND A SURVEY THROUGH THE TREASURE COAST COMMITTEE REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL THERE WERE SOME QR CODES BEING FLOATING AROUND AND SHE HAD IT ON THE CITY WEB SITE AND MAKE SURE IT IS BEING SENT OUT TO YOUR BUSINESS OWNER THERE IS TO TOO.
>> COMMISSIONER BROAD RICK. >> I WILL MAKE IT QUICK.
THE RETIREMENT BOARD. FIRST COMMENT IS HAVING HAD EXPOSURE TO THAT BOARD FOR A YEAR, I AM THRILLED WITH THE PROSPECT OF HAVING TWO COMMISSIONERS ON THAT BOARD.
IT IS SIGNIFICANT. AND WE -- I HAD REQUESTED SOME FINANCIAL DATA RELATIVE TO THE OPERATIONS OF THAT BOARD WHICH WILL BE FOR THE COMING IN DETAIL RELATIVE TO THE THAT CACHE BOARD, PROFESSIONAL FEES, LEGAL FEES AND, ETC.
MY GOAL WAS TO ELEVATE THAT DISCUSSION TO THIS BODY.
SO WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW ALL THAT.
AND JUST KIND OF SEE WHERE WE ARE AT.
AND CHANGES, NO CHANGES, STATUS QUO, THAT CONVERSATION IS YET TO BE HELD. JUST A COUPLE OF TAKE AWAYS FROM THAT. OUR MANAGEMENT FEES $850,000 PER YEAR. THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MO MONEY.
>> ALMOST A MILLION. >> CLOSE ENOUGH.
NEEDS THE EYES THIS WAS COMMISSION ON TO JUST DISCUSS AND IF THEY ARE -- IF THEY ARE SATISFIED WITH THE RESULTS THAT HAVE BEEN GENERATED WHICH ARE EXEMPLARY IN COMPARISON TO OTHER FUNDS DLUT THE STATE. BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT MISS HEDGESDEPARTMENT IS INVOLVED WITH LEGAL WITH HER HAVING DISCRETION RELATIVE TO LEGAL COUNCIL.
THE CITY COMMISSION. IT IS AN INTERESTING -- IT IS AN INTERESTING BREAKDOWN BECAUSE THAT RETIREMENT BODY ACTUALLY HAS THE ABILITY TO CHANGE INVESTMENT ADVISORS.
AND I JUST THINK THAT THE CITY COMMISSION SHOULD BE AWARE OF THIS TYPE OF INFORMATION. AND I AM NOT SUGGESTING CHANGING THE STRUCTURES IN HOW THAT IS MANAGED, BUT I JUST THINK THAT THIS BODY NEEDS A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION FLOATING UPSTREAM. SO EVERYBODY HAS A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING. LOOK, THERE IS ABOUT A BILLION DOLLARS IN THAT FUND. BASICALLY FIVE TIMES THE ANNUAL BUDGET OF THE CITY. AND MANAGEMENT OVERNIGHT FROM PROFESSIONALS. AND TEAM OF THEM ROAR AND THEN OVERSIGHT FROM THE BOARD ITSELF AND SUBSEQUENTLY.
SEEMS TO BE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE A SLIGHT DISCONNECT THAT COMMISSIONER GAINES AND I ARE IN ATTENDANCE AND GET ALL THE INFORMATION AND MAKE THESE READER DIGEST REPORTS FROM YOU.
I JUST CONSIDER THE GRAVITY OF WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH TO BE SO SIGNIFICANT THAT I WANT TO GET THIS BODY MORE INFORMATION.
THAT IS WHERE I AM COMING FROM IT.
ULTIMATELY WE ASKED THE FINANCE DIRECTOR TO GET THAT IN FRONT OF THE FOLKS HERE TO HAVE A BETTER IN-DEPTH UNDERSTANDING OF THE OPERATIONS AND ANY DECISION MANAGING THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE, WE WILL DEAL WITH THAT AT THAT T TIME. OUR OTHER QUESTION AND COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON SAID AUTOMATIC ON AN ALTERNATE.
IS IT A SUNSHINE ISSUE IF I ATTENDED ONE EVER THOSE 3450E9S.
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I KNOW HE IS THE VOTING REPRESENTATIVE.IS THAT A SUNSHINE I SHALL PEW? >> THE SUNSHINE LAW WILL STILL APPLY GOING TO RELATE TO COMMUNICATIONS WITH WE ARE HAVING BACK AND FOR THE WITH EACH OTHER.
IN-DEPTH OF WHAT WE COULD AND COULDN'T DO.
ON 9 -- I KIND OF AGREE ON -- I WILL JUST GO BACK TO THE RETIREMENT BOARD I HAVE BEEN THERE TWO YEARS NOW AND THE ONE THING I AM GOING TO SAY THE OLD ADAGE.
WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL IF WE DECIDE TO MAKE ANY CHANGES.
I UNDERSTAND THE CONFERENCE AND THE ECONOMICS TO HAVE MORE INS INSIGHT, OUR RETIREMENT FUND IS WAY UP HERE. COMMISSIONER PERONA, THE RETIREMENT BOARD WAS HIS BABY. HE DID A GOOD JOB GETTING IT TO WHERE IT IS. YOU GUYS PROBABLY NEED MORE THAN THE 30 SECONDS THAT ME AND COMMISSIONER BRODERICK TALKS ABOUT, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME BIG BIG NUMBERS THAT WILL BE GOING BACK AND FORTH. WE ARE SITTING THERE AND I SAW COMMISSIONER JOHNSON'S EYELESS WHEN HE HEARD ABOUT WHAT WE ARE PAYING. I WILL SAY THIS THOUGH THAT TEAM THAT WE HAVE TOGETHER, THEY DO AN OUTSTANDING JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT THE OTHER PEOPLE -- THE LITTLE MANAGERS AND THEY WILL BRING A MANAGER BACK IN FRONT OF US IF THAT MAN INJURY IS NOT DOING -- DOING THEIR JOB AND LET US QUESTION.
SO IF ANYTHING WILL BE CHANGED -- I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WILL BE SOMETHING OF MISS HEDGES AND WHATEVER.
SOMETIMES WHEN THE MANAGERS PCO MAY BE THE TIME TO BREAK THE MANAGERS AND ME AND YOU CAN TALK ABOUT IT IN THE RETIREMENT BOARD, BUT THOSE ARE WHERE THE NITTY GRITTY IS.
THE ONES THAT HOLD OUR INVESTMENT, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT -- THAT ARE KEEPING OUR FUN THIS HIGH.
I JUST WANT TO SAY I AGREE THAT YOU GUYS SHOULD KNOW AND YOUR EYES SHOULD BE PUT ON IT. BUT BEFORE WE START TO WANT TO CHANGE AND EVERYTHING AND DO IT, LET'S JUST BARB LET'S JUST READ IT FIRST AND THIN COME UP WITH GREAT DECISIONS BECAUSE WE HAVE A GOOD RETIREMENT FUND. AND IT IS MAKING MONEY.
AND -- AND IT MADE MONEY. WE TOOK A LOSS, BUT WE DIDN'T TAKE A BIG LOSS DURING THAT TOWN TURN WHEN EVERYWHERE ELSE DID BASED ON SOME OF THE DECISIONS MADE.
SO LET'S JUST READ IT AND GO FROM THERE.
THAT'S ALL I AM SAYING. >> UP -- YEAH.
SO BEFORE I WAS MAYOR, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WATCHED WAS THE RETIREMENT FUND. BECAUSE IT IS A -- IT IS A DEFINED BENEFIT. NOT A DEFINED CONTRIBUTION.
IF I REMEMBER THOSE ARE THE TERMS. THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT IS BECOMING INCREASINGLY RARE.
SO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK HAVING TWO COMMISSIONERS ON THERE -- THAT IS A CHARTER REQUIREMENT, I THINK.
THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT THAT FOR THE TAX PAYER AS WELL THE EMPLOYEES. BOTH -- BECAUSE THE REST OF THE RETIREMENT FUND ARE ALL EMPLOYEELESS.
YOU HAVE KIND OF A DUAL ROLE HERE.
IN TERMS. OF HAVING THAT KIND OF EAGLE EYE IS VERY IMPORTANT. AND INFORMING, KEEPING US INFORMED BECAUSE IT IS. A HUGE CHUNK OF CHANGE THAT IS BEING MANAGED AND MANAGED OBVIOUSLY WELL BUT WE STILL NEED MORE INFORMATION. ONE THING FOR THE FPUA.
THEY GIVE US A REPORT ANNUALLY. FOR THE FPUA AND THE RETIREMENT FUND. THEY GIVE THE REPORT FOR THE BOARD SO WE KNOW WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE YEAR, WHY IT HAS HAPPENED, WHAT THE -- AND THE -- AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT -- THAT FUND DOES AS WELL WHEN THE STOCK MARKET DOES AS WELL.
AND THE TAXPAYER IS ON THE HOOK WHEN THE STOCK MARKET DOES WELL.
A BIG FINANCIAL ENTERPRISE AND I APPRECIATE THAT KIND OF MAGNIFYING GLASS ON IT. BECAUSE I THINK THIS -- THE REST OF THIS COMMISSION NEEDS TO KNOW THIS.
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BECAUSE IT IS ALWAYS NEWS TO THE FPUA BOARD.ALWAYS NEWS. >> CLEARLY THAT DISCUSSION NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE. I WILL BE CANDID WITH YOU -- AND
I AM A FINANCE GUY. >> I KNOW.
>> I GO THROUGH FINANCE ALL TIME.
THE MINUTIA OF THE FINANCIAL INFORMATION WE RECEIVE FROM THE PROALS IS SO EXTENSIVE, YOU COULD HAVE A FULL-TIME JOB OVERSEEING THE ACTIVITIES THE ACTIVITIES OF THE MAN INJURIES AND OF ALL THE TIME OF ALL THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT WE HAVE OF A SIGNIFICANT RESPONSIBILITY THAT NEEDS MORE -- I AM NOT SAYING SAYING CHANGE, BUT INFORMATION AND OVERSIGHT WHICH RYES ON. BURDEN OF RESPONSIBILITY ON THAT BOARD WHICH HAVE DIGESTEDED THAT TO SAY WE NEED TO HIT EVERYTHING DIRECTLY HERE AND THE FINANCIAL REPORTS THEY GIVE U, THEY ARE 50 PAGES LONG. IT IS A FULL-TIME JOB IF YOU ARE GOING TO THE CITY THERE AND GO THROUGH THAT.
I LOOK AT THE BOTTOM LINE NUMBERS BUT THAT IS JUST MY
I DON'T MEAN TO CUT ANYBODY OFF, BUT IT APPEARS THIS CITY COMMISSION IS VERY INTERESTED IN THE -- IN THE ACTIVITIES AND THE STATUS OF THE RETIREMENT BOARD WHICH IS AN ADVISORY BOARD.
SO IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE A REPORT FROM THE ADVISORY BOARD, I CAN SCHEDULE THAT TO HAPPEN. YOU JUST TELL ME WHEN YOU WOULD LIKE THAT, AND I WILL THE CHAIR OF THAT BOARD SIT HERE AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH YOU IN A REPORT.
>> WAIT, I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD LEAVE IT UP TO THE RETIREMENT BOARD MEMBERS WHEN THE BEST TIME.
THEY DO IT AT FPUA, IT WAS AFTER -- THE REPORT COMES OUT IN MARCH, THE AUDIT REPORT -- IT IS NOT AN AUDIT REPORT.
IT IS CALLED SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
SOME KIND OF REPORT THAT COMES OUT.
HAS TO GO TO THE LEGISLATURE AND THE STATE STATUTE CHANGED A WHILE BACK AND YOU HAVE TO SEND YOUR REPORTS TO THE STATE
LEGISLATURE EVERY YEAR. >> I BELIEVE YOUR ISSUES ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN JUST WHAT IS GOING ON IN AN ANNUAL BASIS. YOU ARE LOOKING THE ENTIRE STABILITY OF THAT BOARD, THE STAFF FOR THAT BOARD.
THE ATTORNEYS FOR THAT BOARD, EVERYTHING.
LOOK JANUARY IS COMING UP. UP WANT A CONFERENCE AGENDA FOR THAT REPORT, THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE DONE.
>> FOR INFORMATIONAL PUMPKINS, WE NEED TO START SOMEWHERE.
GAUZE A LOT WE DON'T KNOW. >> A LOT OF YOU DON'T KNOW.
>> YOUR EDUCATION IS STILL GOING WHERE WE HAVE GOT IF.
>> I WILL HAVE STAFF COMMUNICATE WITH THE CHAIR OF THAT BOARD AND WHOEVER THAT CHAIR WANTS TO BRING WHETHER PROFESSIONALS, EXPERTS, WHATEVER THEY ARE, THEN THEY WILL BE HERE.
BUT IN JANUARY, UNFORTUNATELY HAVE THAT REPORT.
AND SO ARE I WENT TO THE TPO MEETING, AND THEY DID -- THEY WERE VERY ENTHUSIASTICALLY REAFFIRMING THEIR SUPPORT FOR THE RAIL STATION. THAT WAS NOT HARD-FOUGHT BATTLE.
AND THAT WAS -- THEY ELECTED COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON VICE-CHAIR -- I KNOW HE IS THRILLED ABOUT THAT.
FORT PIERCE'S TURN AND IT WAS HIS TURN.
OUR TREASURE COAST REGIONAL LEAGUE OF STILLS HAVE THEIR ANNUAL LUNCHEON IN PRESS KOESHLGS IN PORT ST. LUCIE.
THE PRESIDENT OF THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES AND WE TALKED OF FPUA. I AM EXCITED ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS FPUA REPORTED THIS MORNING.
ALL GOOD NEWS. I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THE TREASURE COAST HISTORY FESTIVAL WHICH IS GOING TO BE HELD JANUARY 13. WHICH IS A SATURDAY OVER AT THE ST. LUCIE REGIONAL HISTORY FESTIVAL.
AND IT WAS SPONSORED BY THE INDIAN RIVER MAGAZINE AND THIS ONE IS SPONSORED BY THE REGIONAL HISTORY.
THE ST. LOUIS HISTORICAL SAFETY. SO -- I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ASK, HAS ANYBODY HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT MLK PARADE OR ACTIVITIES? I TRIED TO REACH OUT FOR.
>> I HAVE. I ASKED -- THE TENTATIVE
OKAY. >> I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS -- I THINK IT IS ENOUGH INFORMATION FOR YOU TO FILL THE CALENDAR WITH WHAT IS COMING BECAUSE I HAD THAT CONCERN SO ABSOLUTELY AND I HAVE FORWARDEDED THAT TO YOU TODAY.
>> SOMETIMES I GET THAT -- WE GET THAT SO LATE AND WE HAVE OTHER THINGS GOING ON. SO THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
AND I AM EXCITED ABOUT THE COAST GUARD DISCUSSION.
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AND THE COAST GUARD WAS IN THE PARADE.I DON'T REMEMBER THEM BEING IN THE PARADE BEFORE BUT THEY WERE IN THE PARADE THIS YEAR. SO I WAS REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THAT. SO WITH THAT --
>> MADAM MAYOR, BEFORE WE CONCLUDE.
WAY TONIGHT REMIND THE COMMISSIONERS THAT THIS COMING SATURDAY, COMMISSIONER -- LATE COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER'S FAMILY, THE CHRISTMAS TOY DRIVE GIVEAON AVENUE Q AND 25TH STREET.
A LOT OF CHILDREN. FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL BE THERE.
A LOT OF GREAT SMILES. ABOUT -- WHAT WAS IT, 10 -- 10
A.M. >> I SENT A CONTRIBUTION.
SO -- 10 A.M., OKAY. >> WE WILL GET THAT HERE FROM AGAIN CIRCULATED TOO. BUT IT SHOULD BE A GOOD OCCASION AS ALWAYS AND GREAT WITH THE YOUNG PEOPLE ENJOYING THEMSELVES. ARE FOOD GOY WAY TO THE FAMILY AND KINDS AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL BE THERE.
>> LEGIT CUTS AND DGA HAD THEIRS LAST WEEK.
WITH THAT, I THINK THAT WE CAN ADJOURN.
WE WILL BE LEAVING THE CHAMBERS AND TURNING OUT THE LIGHTS.
WE ARE A
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