[a. Letter from Charlie Hayak expressing gratitude for the exceptional service provided by Aderian Sapp and his foreman, Ernest Riccardi, from the Public Works Department.]

TONIGHT HIM ABOUT WE DID RECEIVE A LETTER FROM CHARLIE

[8. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

HAYAK, EXPRESSING GRATITUDE FOR EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE PROVIDED BY ADERIAN SAPP AND HIS FOREMAN, ERNEST RICCARDI, FROM PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

[9. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING PUBLIC HEARINGS Any person who wishes to comment on an agenda item which is not under Public Hearings on the Agenda may be heard at this time and must sign up to speak in advance. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS.

>> YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. YOU WILL GET A WARNING SIGNAL, AND NOW I HAVE JEAN WOODWARD .

>> HELLO. MY NAME IS JEAN WOOD ARE, 1614 WOODLAND AVENUE, I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR YEARS. I CAME HERE SIX MONTHS AGO , TO STRIVE THE OVER DEVELOPMENT IN THE COMMUNITY I KNOW WE CANNOT STOP DEVELOPMENT , BUT WHEN YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER FUTURE LAND USE, PLEASE DO NOT JUST SAY, LET'S DO IT. I WANT TO THANK THE CITY FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE, AND DEALING WITH THE LOCALS ASK. THEY WILL BRING THIS TO YOU THIS EVENING. I AM IN FAVOR OF THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. AS A PARENT OF A CHILD WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITY, AND A SPOUSE OF SOMEONE WHO HAS A PHYSICAL DISABILITY, AS A CARETAKER IT IS VERY IMPORTANT, TO PROTECT YOUR FAMILY, ESPECIALLY IN MY SITUATION, HAVING THE FLEXIBLE CONFIGURATION AND HAVE THE DWELLINGS FLEXIBLE DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE FUTURE. IT IS HARD TO PROTECT YOUR FAMILY IF YOU ARE TOO FAR AWAY, AND IF WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING LIKE A MOTHER-IN-LAW'S COTTAGE IN THE BACK IT WOULD HELP US. AND CONSIDER WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT THESE PROJECTS, YOU CAN SAY YES, AND CONSIDER THE IMPACT FOR ADA ACCESSIBLE HOUSING, THERE ARE A LOT OF RENTALS IN THE COMMUNITY. THERE ARE INCENTIVES FOR CONTRACTORS AND DEVELOPERS TO BUILD AND MAKE THEM ACCESSIBLE, NOT JUST THE SMALL PERCENTAGE THAT IS REQUIRED, THEY GET ALL KIND OF INCENTIVES. THERE IS A LOT THAT CAN BE DONE TO HELP THE DISABLED COMPANY -- COMMUNITY.

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THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NOT ADDRESSING, AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER FOR TODAY

AND IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. >> NEXT WE HAVE JORGE GAUZE.

THE COMMISSIONERS, I AM HERE TO , MY NAME IS JORGE GAUZE. I AM HERE TO THANK YOU AS PART OF THE PGA OFFICER, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THAT ON THE AGENDA. I WANT TO EXTEND THE GRATITUDE TO MR. JOHNSON , WE WORKED ON IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT GOT HERE. THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE WORK. I DO APPRECIATE YOU GUYS, AND I KNOW THE OFFICERS AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE THANK YOU. AND WE GO TO THEM WHEN WE HAVE ISSUES , AND WE ARE SO GRATEFUL FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE AND YOUR HELP. AND THAT IS WHY I AM HERE, TO THANK YOU GUYS.

[a. Fort Pierce Infrastructure Surtax Citizens Oversight Committee Annual Report 2023]

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> NEXT WE HAVE THE MISCELLANEOUS REPORT, FORT PIERCE INFRASTRUCTURE CITIZENS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE AND WILL REPORT.

>> WE HAVE THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT , WHO WILL GIVE US

THE REPORT. >> I HOPE I CAN OPEN THIS, TODD. I DO NOT KNOW WHY IT WILL NOT OPEN THIS PDF.

>> LET ME TRY TO MAKE THIS A FULL-PAGE. GOOD EVENING MAYOR HUDSON, MY NAME IS SELENA, I AM THE ENGINEER, I AM HERE TO PRESENT FORT PIERCE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE ANNUAL - REPORT. BEFORE PRESENTING THE REPORT, I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO GIVE RECOGNITION TO THE MEMBERS WHO SUPPORT AND THEIR COLLABORATION, IT IS GREATLY APPRECIATED BY THE STAFF . THE COMMITTEE MET FIVE TIMES IN 2023, WE PROVIDED UPDATES ON FINANCE AND BUDGETS, AND THE STATUS OF PROJECTS. THE COMMITTEE SUBMITTED THIS ANNUAL REPORT FOR YOUR ACCEPTANCE .

THE PURPOSE OF THE REPORT AS NOTED IN THE RESOLUTION , IS TO ENSURE TRANSPARENCY, AND PROVIDE THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY WITH THE ASSURANCE THAT FUNDS ARE BEING SPENT IN THE MANNER APPROVED BY THE VOTERS AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE LAW. AND IN 2023 THE TOTAL REVENUE WAS NEARLY $3 MILLION. EXPENSES TOTALED JUST OVER $2 MILLION. BASED ON THE CASH IN, CASH OUT ANALYSIS THE INFRASTRUCTURE ACCOUNT IS JUST A LITTLE OVER $6 MILLION. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THIS AMOUNT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE EXPENSES THAT HAVE NOT YET BEEN RECORDED FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR 2023. THIS TABLE WAS CREATED AND INCLUDED IN THE REPORT, WHAT IT IS IS A TRACKING OF THE MONTHLY AVERAGE OF THE RECEIPTS THAT WE GET FROM THE STATE. THIS WILL HELP US TO LOOK , LIKE WHAT WE WOULD GET IN THE COMING MONTHS AS WE MOVE FORWARD, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SEE IF IT IS LOW AND THE REASONS FOR THAT. MASTER PROJECT, AND I KNOW THIS IS HARD FOR YOU TO READ THEM MASTER PROJECT LIST IS TRACKING REAL IMPROVEMENT IN THE CITY . AS YOU ARE AWARE THE FOCUS OF THE SURTAX WAS FOR BETTER ROADS, AND BETTER WATER QUALITY. SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE SURTAX, THE CITY HAS RE-SERVICE APPROXIMATELY SICK -- 6 1/2 MILES . WE HAVE COMPLETED ONE AND A HALF MILES OF RECONSTRUCTION, WITH ANOTHER THREE QUARTER MILES UNDER CONSTRUCTION. THAT IS A TOTAL OF NEARLY 30 TEAM MILES OF BETTER ROADS WE HAVE COMPLETED THE GEORGIA AVENUE, BASIN WATER QUALITY PROJECT. IT COMPRISES 2800 ACRES, THAT

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WAS PREVIOUSLY ON TREATED -- UNTREATED WATER STORM RUNOFF.

THIS WILL REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF NITROGEN, PHOSPHORUS, AND SOLIDS THAT IMPACT THE INDIAN ROAD RIVER. THERE IS 11 MILES OF CONSTRUCTION, EITHER IMPROVED OR ADDED , THE SIDEWALKS WERE ADDED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. NEBRASKA AVENUE SIDEWALK PROJECT HAS ANOTHER HALF A MILE OF SIDEWALKS. AND THIS IS PART OF THE GRANT FUNDING , FOR MORE SIDEWALKS BUT THIS SURTAX PROVIDES THE REQUIRED MATCH FOR THE GRANTS.

WE DO APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT OF THE COMMISSION AND WE LOOK

FORWARD TO 2024. THANK YOU. >> DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR

ANY COMMENTS? >> I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT, THANK YOU TO THE COMMITTEE FOR LOOKING INTO THIS. TO CONTINUE TO EVALUATE, LIKE WHAT WE PROMISED TO THE VOTERS, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THIS. WE SET PROJECTS, AND THERE ARE A FEW, I KNOW THERE WAS A SITUATION, BUT WHAT DO YOU PLAN FOR THIS YEAR? WHAT CAN YOU TELL THE PUBLIC ? AS FAR AS RESURFACING, OR SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT YOU

WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT? >> WE ARE WORKING ON OHIO AVENUE , CURRENTLY THAT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION WE HAVE FOUR MILES OF RESURFACING, AND IT STARTED FROM 2023 LIST.

AND FOR THE LIST FOR 2024 WE WILL BRING THIS BACK TO THE COMMISSION. AND ONCE WE GET THE CONTRACT, AND ONCE WE GET THE LIST TOGETHER, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND DO YOU 2023 AND 2024 ALL AT ONCE, THAT WILL BE CLOSE TO FOUR MILES , AND AVENUE D , WE WILL GET THAT PROJECT READY TO ADVERTISE. WE DID GET A GRANT FOR A SIGNIFICANT PORTION, THERE WILL BE SOME SALES TAX FUNDS INVOLVED . AND WE ARE COORDINATING WITH DOT TO GET THAT DONE. U.S. 1 TO FOR STRIFE, WE ARE GONNA PUSH THAT HARD TO GET IT DONE.

>> THE FUNDING SPECIFICALLY, EARLY IN THE SLIDE YOU SHOWED WHAT WAS IN THE BANK ACCOUNT, BASIC RIGHT NOW. SO WE GOT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS SET ASIDE IN RESERVE. YOU TALKED ABOUT A PROJECT, THE GRANT MATCH, ARE WE ABLE TO LEVERAGE THOSE FUNDS FOR ADDITIONAL DOLLARS?

>> WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE SOME OF THOSE FUNDS AND LETTERING -- LEVERAGE THOSE FUNDS. THE EASIEST ONE FOR US TO GET, FOR NEBRASKA AVENUE, THAT CIRCLE INSIDE OF NEBRASKA AVENUE, WE HAVE ANOTHER CIRCLE ON THE OUTSIDE. AND WE HAVE SOME EXTENSIONS HERE AND THERE. AND WE STARTED THIS A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO. WE RECEIVED MONEY , THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE WAS A LITTLE OVER $700,000, AND IF YOU REMEMBER, WE GOT A LITTLE OVER $1 MILLION. SO IT WILL TAKE LESS OF OUR SURTAX INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDS. WE CAN PUT THOSE FUNDS TOWARDS OTHER PROJECTS. WE ARE STARTING TO DESIGN A GANG, AND RE-LOOKING AT THE OLD DESIGNS, THAT IS FOR 13TH, I KNOW THIS IS A PRIORITY FOR A LOT OF FOLKS, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE FINAL DESIGN. WE HAVE THE HELP OF

GETTING THAT DONE. >> THANK YOU.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, IT DOES COST MORE AND RIGHT NOW TO IMPROVE THE ROADWAYS THEN WHAT IT USED TO, SO IT IS INCREDIBLE THAT YOU TOLD US THAT YOU DID FOUR MILES . WE ARE SPENDING IT AS BEST AS WE CAN TO GET THE

[b. Derek Boyd Hankerson, Constituent Service Representative/Event Specialist, Office of Congressman Mast ]

ROADS TO BE BETTER. >> GREAT.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR REPORT.

>> NEXT WE HAVE DEREK BOYD HANKERSON, A CONSTITUENT SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE , EVENT SPECIALIST, FROM THE OFFICE OF

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CONGRESSMAN MAST . >> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR IT IS ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU. YESTERDAY I HAD CHINESE DINNER , AND MY FORTUNE COOKIE SAID, THE AUDIT OF HAVING A RELATIONSHIP IS ONE OF YOU TO BE SO POSITIVE. I WANT TO TALK A FEW MINUTES ABOUT MYSELF, THE CONGRESSMAN'S OFFICE, AND WHY I AM HERE. I HAD THE PLEASURE OF SERVING . THE SECRETARY, I WAS THE ASSISTANT TO THE SECRETARY FOR OPEN DEVELOPMENT.

THEY WERE A FORMER ORLANDO MAYOR, AND WE WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR REDUCING LEAD BASE PAINT . THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, AND 9/11 HAPPENED, MY FATHER PASSED AWAY THE SAME YEAR. I REMEMBER COMING HOME TO FLORIDA, AND MY HOPE WAS FOR SAINT AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA, AND I HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING FOR COMMUNITY SERVICE DIVISION . IT WAS A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY, AND I HAD THE PLEASURE OF HELPING WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE ONE OF THE STRONGEST COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT, SINCE 1998. AND I HAD THE PLEASURE OF WRITING THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE BRINGING OUT THE ELEMENTS OF THE COMMUNITY, POSITIVE ELEMENTS, AND ONE OF THE COMMITTEE THAT I WORKED FOR, I WROTE A SUCCESSFUL GRANT. AND THAT WAS FOR FORT PIERCE, AND I SAW MY BOSS THE CONGRESSMAN , AND HE ASKED ME TO COME BY AND SAY, OUR MUTUAL CONSTITUENTS IN THE COUNTY OF ST. LUCIE, AND FORT PIERCE, AND ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF CITY HALL, WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO ASSIST OUR CONSTITUENTS WORKING WITH THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT FEDERAL AGENCIES , REACH OUT TO ME, WE CAN HELP OUR CONSTITUENTS. LIVE FOR SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE AND SO FORTH. CONGRESSMAN WANTED ME TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AND OFFER OUR SERVICES , FROM THE CONGRESSMAN'S OFFICE TO ASSIST THIS COMMITTEE , WHAT AN EXCEPTIONAL COMMISSION, WHAT A WONDERFUL STAFF. AS I WAS GETTING READY FOR THIS MEETING , I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH CARRIE, THE CITY PLANNER, AND I CAN SEE US WORKING WITH DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES . WHETHER IT IS WORKING IN SAINT AUGUSTINE, OR AT THE COLLEGE. AND FORT PIERCE HAS AN EXCEPTIONAL , THE HERITAGE TRAIL. AND THERE IS THAT REFERENCE TO THE TALLAHASSEE BATTLEFIELD. AND THERE WAS A REFERENCE TO THE CIVIL WAR . AND WE GOT TOGETHER WITH THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT COUNTIES, AND SOUTH FLORIDA TO HELP DRIVE TOURISM. AND TOURISM IS THE NUMBER ONE INDUSTRY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. AND FORT PIERCE, ALL OF THE POSITIVITY COMING OUT OF THE CITY, AND THEY ARE THERE FOR YOU. PLEASE REACH OUT TO OUR OFFICE , IF YOU ARE APPLYING FOR ANY GRACE, AND IF YOU NEED ANY LETTERS OR RECOMMENDATIONS, FOR FEDERAL GRANTS, PLEASE REACH OUT TO OUR OFFICE. IT IS WRITING RECOMMENDATIONS. EVERY DAY, IT IS SO BEAUTIFUL TO WORK WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE EXCITED TO LIVE HERE, EXCITED TO WORK YEAR

[c. Housing Needs Assessment and Implementation Plan Update by TPMA-Inc.]

EXCITED TO PLAY HERE. AND THANK YOU, AND BLESS YOU.

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>> NEXT WE HAVE THE HOUSING NEED ASSESSMENT AT THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN UPDATED BY TMPA .

>> I BELIEVE WE HAVE A CONSULTANT AND I WILL ALLOW HIM TO INTRODUCE HIMSELF. AND HE WILL GIVE US RECOMMENDATION FROM THE HOUSING NEED ASSESSMENT.

>> THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME, BUT I DO NOT SEE MY PRESENTATION.

>> OKAY, WE WILL HELP YOU. >> I APOLOGIZE FOR THE DELAY.

WONDERFUL. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY, MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS AARON PHILLY, I AM PART OF TMPA, WE ARE A CONSULTING FIRM , A NATIONWIDE FIRM, WE ARE BASED IN INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA. FOR SEVERAL MONTHS I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE STAFF AT THE COUNTY, AND ST. LOUIS COUNTY AND FORT PIERCE TO CONDUCT A HOUSING NEED ASSESSMENT. I AM HERE TODAY TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE PROGRESS OF THE PLAN, THERE ARE SOME HIGH-LEVEL FINDINGS. AND WE WILL START TO DISCUSS THE STRATEGIES, AS PART OF THE PLAN. WE ARE LOOKING AT COLLECTING FEEDBACK FROM YOU TODAY, AND WE WILL TAKE THAT FEEDBACK AND RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE WILL START WORKING WITH PLANNING AND ZONING. WE WILL WORK FROM THOSE STRATEGIES TOWARDS IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I AM GOING TO GET GOING, I KNOW YOU HAVE A FULL AGENDA. A QUICK PROJECT OVERVIEW, WE DID COLLECT DATA FROM PUBLIC AND THIRD-PARTY SOURCES, THAT SHE INSTITUTE , COLLECTING HOUSING DATA. WE DID THIS MARKET ANALYSIS, DATA ANALYSIS, LOOKING AT AFFORDABILITY, DEMAND. WE LOOKED AT ACTIVITIES, TWO WORKSHOPS WERE HELD. THEY WERE HELD IN THE SUMMER. WE HAD A PUBLIC OPINION SURVEY, AND WE DID GET SUPPORT FROM THE PUBLIC, WE COLLECTED OVER 1200 RESPONSES TO THE SURVEY. AND HERE WE ARE, THE STRATEGY WORKSHOPS. I WILL NOT GO THROUGH EVERY PIECE OF DATA, ON THE SLIDE. ONE THING IS THE POPULATION GROWTH, THIS IS 10 YEARS. OBVIOUSLY, IT DID INCREASE, THE POPULATION GROWTH. IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT ONE OUT OF SIX RESIDENTS IN FORT PIERCE PROJECTED TO BE OVER THE AGE OF 70 FIVE 2040, AND THEY WILL HAVE SPECIFIC HOUSING NEEDS. HOMEOWNERSHIP RATE IS JUST UNDER 50%. AS YOU ARE AWARE THE METRO AREA , YOU CAN SEE IT IS GROWING RAPIDLY. WHAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE METRO ERROR -- AREA, THIS IS THE SECOND QUARTER OF 2023. YOU WE FORT PIERCE AND YOU CAN SEE THERE IS ADDITION TO HOUSING . ALMOST WHEN OUT OUT FIVE , -- ALMOST ONE OUT OF FIVE FOR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. I WAS AT FORT LUCY THIS MORNING, THEY HAVE A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF SINGLE FAMILY UNITS. AND FORT PIERCE IS A MIXED. JUST UNDER HALF IS SINGLE-FAMILY, HERE AT FORT PIERCE . SOME OF THE POPULATION GROWTH HAS

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PLATEAUED, BUT PROJECTIONS WILL SHOW IT WILL CONTINUE TO RISE, PROBABLY AT A SLOWER RATE FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS. IN THE LAST TWO YEARS THERE HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT EFFECT ON THE HOUSING COST HERE IN FORT PIERCE, THAT YOU HAVE SEEN AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTS HAVE SEEN AS WELL . IT INCREASED ALMOST $300 IN THE LAST TWO YEARS . AND 42% ACCORDING TO THE ESTIMATES OF THE HOUSING , COST BURDEN . THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, 30% OF THE HOUSEHOLD INCOME IS SPENT ON HOUSING, NOT JUST THE MORTGAGE, BUT THIS INCLUDES INSURANCE, TAXES, HOA , AND ANY HOUSEHOLD THAT IS CONSIDERED SPENDING 30% MORE IS CALLED A BURDEN . AND THAT CAN BE IMPACTED BY HOUSING COSTS.

THERE HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT SALE PRICE ADJUSTMENTS OVER THE SAME TWO YEARS, OVER $100,000 . THIS IS FOR A SALE PRICE FOR A HOME IN FORT PIERCE . YOU CAN SEE THIS CHART, AND IT ENDED IN 2022. IT CAME DOWN FROM THE PEAK, BUT WE ARE STILL LOOKING AT $200,000 FOR A MEDIAN SALE PRICE FOR A HOME IN FORT PIERCE . AND THIS OF COURSE HAS AN IMPACT ON A VARIETY OF RESIDENTS AND CONSTITUENTS. BUT WE WANT TO LOOK AT THE IMPACT THAT IT MIGHT HAVE WITH THE SERVICES THAT YOU SEE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. WHAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU, IT'S TAKING THIS INFORMATION, THESE INSTRUMENTS ARE BASED ON INCOME. AND ONCE AGAIN WE ARE LOOKING FOR THAT 30% THRESHOLD AND THESE ARE INDIVIDUAL INCOMES, NOT HOUSEHOLD, IT IS NOT NECESSARILY ONE TO ONE. WE LOOKED AT BEDROOM RENT. ALL OF THE PROFESSIONS THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU WOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR A ONE BEDROOM, ONE INCOME EARNING HOUSEHOLD. AND OF COURSE YOU SEE IMPORTANT SERVICES LIKE EMT, FIRE SERVICE, AND FIRST-YEAR TEACHERS, AND EDUCATION IS A VERY IMPORTANT ASPECT FOR THE COMMUNITY 80% THAT YOU SEE, HEALTHCARE AND PERSONAL AIDES, YOU CAN SEE IT IS A LOW WAGE EARNING . AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER HOUSING AFFORDABILITY AND THE IMPACT THAT IT WILL HAVE ON THE COMMUNITY FOR THE WORKERS AND SERVICES THAT ARE AVAILABLE. THIS IS THE DEMAND MODELING, YOU CAN SEE A NEED FOR A NEW UNITS TO BE DEVELOPED . AND THIS IS BASED ON THE RECENT INCREASE IN THE POPULATION AND WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT DEMAND, AND THIS IS COUNTYWIDE, IT IS NOT NECESSARILY SPECIFIC TO FORT PIERCE . THIS IS FOR SALE AND RENTAL UNITS FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AND YOU CAN SEE THIS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN. AND THE HEAD OF THE HOUSE RULED -- HOUSEHOLD IS OVER THE AGE OF 55. THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE PUT OUT A SURVEY, FOR BUSINESS OWNERS THAT WAS RELEASED EARLIER THIS YEAR. AND HOW THIS IMPACTED BUSINESS OPERATIONS. AND MORE THAN HALF OF BUSINESS OWNERS HAVE SAID THIS IMPACTED THEIR BUSINESS. WE HAVE TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE CRISIS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT HERE, AND WHEN THEY WERE ASKED TO SEE IF IT WOULD IMPACT THEIR FUTURE, THAT NUMBER JUMPED TO 70%. SO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS FEELING THE PINCH AS WELL, THIS IS ABOUT AFFORDABILITY NUMBERS. SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE, AFFORDABILITY REPORT, IN COMBINATION WITH THE COUNTY AND THE TWO JURISDICTIONS, WE IDENTIFIED A BROAD FOCUS AREAS . THIS IS A STRATEGY MOVING

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FORWARD WE SPOKE WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, AND AS I MENTIONED WE SPOKE TO THE CITY COUNCIL THIS MORNING, AND I AM HERE SPEAKING WITH YOU TODAY. THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU SEE RIGHT HERE ARE SUBJECT TO FORT PIERCE, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A PLAN THAT IS COHESIVE. AND WHAT IS BETTER FOR ONE JURISDICTION, WE DO NOT WANTED TO CONFLICT WITH ANOTHER JURISDICTION. AND SO THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE TO COLLECT YOUR FEEDBACK. THE FIRST RECOMMENDATION, IT'S ABOUT THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA. AND IT WAS SUCCESSFUL, I THINK THE LAST TIME IT WAS EXPANDED WAS IN 2011 WE WANT TO CREATE ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES, OPPORTUNITIES, FOR FURTHER REDEVELOPMENT. OBVIOUSLY, AS WE SEE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, THERE IS A WESTWARD EXPANSION, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND RESOURCES FOR INFILL DEVELOPMENT IS ALSO BEING CONSIDERED, SO WE CAN HAVE A BALANCE OF THE TWO THINGS .

THIS IS ABOUT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS . THESE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE WILL HEAR ABOUT LATER. THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR A VARIETY OF NEEDS, FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND IT IS WHAT I CALL, THE LIFECYCLE. I WILL NOT BORE YOU, BUT EVERYBODY NEEDS THE SAME TYPE OF HOUSING. WE HAVE NEVER BROUGHT HOUSING MIX. AND THIS WILL HELP FILL IN THE GAPS. AND ALSO BE AWARE, NEW DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE THIS COULD BE CONSIDERED A FINALIST FOR THE TRAIN STATION. IT IS THE BRIGHT LINE STATION , COMING TO FORT PIERCE BUT SHOULD THE DECISION BE MADE FOR FORT PIERCE TO BE SELECTED, OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS BE -- OBVIOUSLY, THERE WILL BE AN IMPACT . WE WANT TO USE THE NEW TRANSIT IN THE AREA, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRANSIT DEVELOPMENT THAT IS PART OF THE REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. AND POTENTIAL MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT, HIGHER DENSITY , OPPORTUNITIES THAT CAN ACCESS THOSE TRANSIT OPTIONS THAT MIGHT BE INCLUDED. A VARIETY OF THINGS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, SUCH AS REDUCTION OF PARKING. WE DO SEE THAT IN THE TRANSIT AREA. AND ALSO, AND I BELIEVE PART OF THE 2023 RECOMMENDATION , EXPAND OPPORTUNITIES FOR TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT. A LOT OF THIS IS JUST MAKING SURE THERE IS A VARIETY OF HOUSING OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS, NOT JUST NECESSARILY LARGE MULTI FAMILY OR A LARGE SINGLE-FAMILY. WE HEAR ABOUT THIS WHEN WE HAVE A HOUSING CONVERSATION, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A BROAD MIX. FINALLY, WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY , OF COURSE IT IS HOUSING , AFFORDABILITY , SALE PRICES AS WELL. MAKING SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO FIND OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE FOR HOUSING IN FORT PIERCE. IDENTIFYING OR KEEPING RATHER OF EXISTING AFFORDABLE UNITS, WHETHER THOSE ARE DEDICATED FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ACT. AND MAKING SURE THERE IS A GOOD INVENTORY, TO MAKE SURE THAT AFFORDABLE UNITS ARE BEING PRESERVED AND MAINTAINED. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE OR RECOMMENDED, INCLUSIONARY ZONING. THIS CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED IN TWO MAJOR WAYS, INCLUSIONARY ZONING IS TO HAVE A DEDICATED AFFORDABLE HOUSING . ONE IS TO REQUIRE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND THIS IS INCLUSION OF DEDICATED AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR UNITS.

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THIS COULD BE A HYBRID APPROACH . AND SOMETIMES THIS CAN RUFFLE THE FEATHERS, BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW THEY DO NOT WANT TO LOSE A PROFIT. WE HAVE TO INCENTIVIZE THINGS, LIKE DENSITY BONUSES, OR WAIVERS OR THINGS LIKE THIS. VERY OFTEN IT IS PUT ON THE BOX -- BOOKS BUT NOT IS ALWAYS UTILIZED.

WITH THE NEW DEVELOPMENT, A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF UNITS IN FORT PIERCE WILL INCLUDE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF DEDICATED AFFORDABLE UNITS. AN ADDITIONAL DENSITY BONUSES, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE THE DEVELOPMENT A WHOLE. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT SOME CITY-OWNED LAND IS IN EXISTENCE, AND I WANT TO RECOMMEND, ACTUALLY WE WERE WATCHING FORT LUCY, LOOKING AT THE LAND TRUST IN PALM BEACH AND TREASURE COAST. USING THIS MODEL, AND REVIEWING PUBLIC OWNED LAND, WORKING WITH THINGS LIKE HABITAT FOR HUMANITY. OR TO CONTINUE TO JOIN EXISTING ONES THAT WE SEE IMPORT LUCY -- FORT LUCY. I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU, WE DO WANT TO SUPPORT YOU.

HAVE A COMMENT. YOUR PROJECTED HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE ON INCREASING RENTS . IN THE COMMUNITY. I HATE TO SAY THOSE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO PALE IN COMPARISON TO RENT INCREASES IN 2024 AND 2025. THAT WAS SPURRED BY INSURANCE COST, THAT IS A PRIMARY MOTIVATOR . THAT IS THE COST FOR BUSINESS , FOR THE LANDLORD . WHAT IT IS DOING IS CAUSING A SEPARATION IN THE MARKETPLACE BETWEEN AFFORDABLE HOUSING ET CETERA FOR A MORE EXCLUSIVE TYPE OF USER. I DO NOT KNOW THE SOLUTION, WE EXPERIENCE THIS IN OUR COMPANY DAILY . THAT THESE NUMBERS WILL GO UP. AND RENT INCREASE, BASED ON OUR OPERATIONS, THE PERCENTAGE IS GOING TO BE THE HIGHEST THEN THEY EVER HAVE BEEN. AND WE HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 35 YEARS. SO THESE NUMBERS ARE BAD, IT IS GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE. THIS LEADS ME TO MY QUESTION. YOU MENTIONED AS ONE OF THE POTENTIAL WAY TO FIX THIS PROBLEM, INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPMENT , AND SUBSIDIZING RED ET CETERA , AND I KNOW THESE PROGRAMS ARE CHALLENGING TO DO AT BEST. IS THERE ANY METHODOLOGY FOR CONSOLIDATING THIS INFORMATION? FOR POTENTIAL USE FOR DEVELOPERS OR LANDLORDS, TO RECEIVE THESE INCENTIVES TO DRIVE THOSE COSTS DOWN ? LIKE A ONE-STOP SHOPPING SCENARIO. LIKE A FEDERAL PROGRAM, STATE PROGRAM, LOCAL PROGRAMS. THAT WAY YOU CAN FILL THAT VOID. I HAD A MEETING IN MY OFFICE, WITH AN ENTITY I NEVER HEARD OF, IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SPECTRUM. IS THERE LIKE GETTING THIS INFORMATION INTO THE HANDS OF FOLKS WHO ARE PROVIDING HOUSING, SO THEY CAN LEVERAGE THOSE PROGRAMS TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE THE COST DOWN? AND MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE . I AM TALK ABOUT AFFORDABILITY RENTAL UNITS, TO THE TUNE OF $2400 A MONTH, THAT IS NOT

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WORKFORCE HOUSING. LOOKING AT YOUR RATIOS, THAT IS NOT THE TYPE OF MONEY THAT IS BENDING -- BEING GENERATED. YOU CAN SEE THIS QUITE SIMPLY, GO WEST OF TOWN, THERE IS MILLIONS OF FEET , IT IS A LARGE COMPANY COMING INTO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND CONDUCT BUSINESS, WHAT THEY ARE FINDING IS THAT WE CANNOT SET UP I HAVE $1 MILLION, BECAUSE WE CANNOT GET THE WORKERS. THEY CANNOT GET THE WORKERS BECAUSE THERE IS NO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THIS IS AN ACCELERATING EFFECT, WE HAVE TO TRACK ALL OF THE PROBLEMS. I AM SEEKING SOLUTIONS, THE PROBLEM IS COMPLICATED, THE GOVERNMENT, AND I AM NOT A HUGE GOVERNMENT INTRUSION INTO THE PRIVATE SECTOR PERSON, BUT THE HURDLES ARE SO EXTREME, I DO NOT THINK THERE ARE OTHER SOLUTIONS EXCEPT FOR A PARTNERSHIP PUBLIC, PRIVATE, TO MAKE THIS A SUCCESS. CAN PEOPLE GO SOMEWHERE TO RESEARCH? FOR THEIR POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OR RENOVATION? MOST OF THE LANDLORDS IN THE CITY ARE SMALL LANDLORDS. THEY MIGHT HAVE A DUPLEX OR SOMETHING, CAN YOU SEE WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT ? AND THIS PROBLEM IS GOING TO ACCELERATE, AND IT WILL HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON US TO PROVIDE GOOD QUALITY JOBS FOR THE CITIZENS IN FORT PIERCE . BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SO CAN WE ADDRESS THIS IN SOME KIND OF CAPACITY QUESTION

>> YOU BRING UP A LOT OF IMPORTANT POINTS. ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE WERE MAKING ACROSS THE COUNTY, IT WAS NOT PART OF MY SLIDE DECK, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE IT POSSIBLE THAT HOUSING, DEDICATED STAFF AND RESOURCES TO IDENTIFY A LOT OF THESE PROGRAMS, MANAGING THESE PROGRAMS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PIECE. WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS A HOUSING CRISIS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE KIND OF IN , THEY HAVE DEDICATED STAFF AND RESOURCES, THEY ARE LIKE A NAVIGATOR FOR SMALLER LANDLORDS AND DEVELOPERS AS WELL. THERE ARE INCIDENTS WHERE YOU HAVE A LARGE COMPANY THAT WILL FOCUS ON THIS, AND THEY KNOW HOW TO OPERATE THIS PROGRAM. THINK ABOUT LOW INCOME HOUSING. IT IS EXTREMELY COMPLICATED TO NAVIGATE THAT PROCESS.

>> IT IS THE SPECIALIST DEVELOPERS, THEY ARE THE EXPERTS . YOU CANNOT JUST WALK OFF THE STREET AND APPLY.

>> DEFINITELY. THERE ARE LAW OFFICES THAT ARE DELEGATED , AND WE ARE KNOW IT IS IMPORTANT TO DEDICATE STAFF BECOMING EXPERTS AT THE CITY LEVEL. I KNOW IT IS NOT FREE TO HIRE ADDITIONAL STAFF, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE AN INVESTMENT IN HOUSING SERVICES AT THE CITY AND COUNTY LEVEL. TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE AVAILABLE RESOURCES, ALL OF THE AVAILABLE PROGRAMS AND OPPORTUNITIES ARE UNDERSTOOD. AND THE DEVELOPERS THAT YOU MENTIONED, CAN NAVIGATE SO MAYBE WE CAN SEE SOME OF THOSE DEVELOPERS, YOU KNOW, NOT THE LARGE COMPANIES.

SO THERE IS NOT NECESSARILY A -- AS YOU KNOW THE PROGRAMS ARE LOCAL. IT IS A RECOMMENDATION , YOU CAN MAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO USE AND LEVERAGE THE AVAILABLE RESOURCES. I WILL SAY IN ADDITION TO THAT, PART OF OUR PROCESS , PART OF THE PROJECT THAT WE ARE UNDERTAKING , IS TO DEVELOP FURTHER COLLABORATION BETWEEN THESE JURISDICTIONS.

AND TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES, YOU KNOW, TO IDENTIFY PROGRAMS AND OFFICES WHERE THERE ARE EXPERTS . NOT JUST FOR FORT

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PIERCE, BUT MAY BE AN EXPERT FOR THE COUNTY AND THE OTHER

JURISDICTIONS. >> I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU FURTHER, NOT TONIGHT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GET

TOGETHER. >> FOR ME TO COME ALONG WITH THIS, I DO APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTIONS IT SOUNDS LIKE HIGHLY SPECIALIZED PEOPLE WILL BE HIRED AT SOME POINT TO ONCE AGAIN NAVIGATE THIS. AND THAT BRINGS UP ANOTHER CONCERT, LIKE FOR THAT STEP, WHERE THE FUNDS GOING TO COME FROM QUESTION AS FOR ME, I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, HOW CAN WE BRING THEM ALONG WITH THIS EDUCATION PROCESS? SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, I NEED TO KNOW SALARIES, AND DATA, AND WHAT IS THE PAYING SALARY COMPARED TO WHAT YOU SHOWED ME IN THIS GRAPH. THIS IS THE AMOUNT OF PERCENTAGE, THE PAY, I AM ASSUMING WITH THAT GRAPH, THESE ARE THE PROFESSIONS AND HOW THEY CAN MAKE RENT. SO I NEED REAL NUMBERS. I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THAT. WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT CHAT. MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ARE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT THE WAGE BANNED IN THIS AREA. WE ARE TRYING TO ELEVATE ALL OF THAT. AND WE ARE GOING TO GET THERE. IT WILL TAKE TIME TO GET IT GOING. THAT WE HAVE DONE THOSE THINGS, AND WE ARE TRACKING THE DEVELOPMENT. I WANT TO UNDERSTAND , I WANT TO HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING AND BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE NOT JUST HOPE FOR THE CITIZENS, BUT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO GET TO THAT SALARY STANDPOINT TO SUSTAIN WHAT WE CALL AFFORDABLE HOUSING . AND THAT IS MY CONCERN. I REPRESENT A DISTRICT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO CATCH UP. AND THE TRAIN IS ALREADY MOVING LIKE YOU SAID, AND THAT TRAIN IS MOVING LITERALLY, AND WE HAVE TO BUILD UP THIS AS WE GO ALONG. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE EVERY OPPORTUNITY, AND WE ARE NOT LEAVING A COMMUNITY BEHIND, THAT HAS DONE SO MUCH TO BE RESILIENT. AND THIS IS WHAT WE CAN SEE TODAY IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE .

>> WHAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU IS A VERY SHORT SUMMARY.

IT IS THE HIGHLIGHT , YOU KNOW, THE DATA. A LOT OF THE PUBLIC DATA SOURCE IS LAGGING. WHAT YOU SAW IN FRONT OF YOU IS FROM 2022. THIS IS THE SURVEY COMMUNITY SURVEY , THAT WAS ON DECEMBER 7 THIRD AND THE COST OF HOUSING IS RISING FASTER THAN WE CAN GET THE DATA, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE WAGES AND WHAT THEY ARE BUT I WANT TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION AS WELL. WE ARE NOT FINISHED WITH THE REPORT, THERE IS A FINAL PIECE OF THIS PROJECT THAT IS PUBLIC EDUCATION, PUBLIC COMMUNICATION COMPONENTS . RIGHT NOW WE ARE WORKING ON A DRAFT OF A PRESENTATION THAT WE WILL BE MAKING, IT IS ALMOST LIKE TRAIN THE TRAINER IF YOU WILL. WE WILL HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PRESENTATION, ONE TO COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, TO GET THIS INFORMATION OUT TO THE PUBLIC SO THIS IS ABOUT THE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT ARE AVAILABLE THE SECOND IS FOR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY. I SPOKE TO THE INAUDIBLE ] IN WASHINGTON D.C., I SPOKE TO EDC ABOUT THE NEED OF EMPLOYERS TO SEE WHERE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE A PARTNERSHIP IN THE SPACE. WE ARE OFTEN ASKED, AS PART OF THE BUSINESS SURVEY, WHERE YOU IMPACTED? THE NEXT QUESTION THAT IS OFTEN ASKED IN THE SURVEY, AND IT WAS WITH

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THIS ONE AS WELL, WHICH OF THE FOLLOWING STRATEGIES OR PROGRAMS WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PARTICIPATE TO HELP ADDRESS AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING QUESTION MAKE AND IMS -- WORKFORCE HOUSING ? AND I AM SAD TO REPORT THEY SELECTED, NONE OF THE ABOVE. I WOULD LOVE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU AS WELL, TO SUPPORT THE WORKFORCE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW. I AM NOT SAYING, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO RUN CHIPOTLE WILL NOT PAY AN ADDITIONAL STIPEND FOR HOUSING . SO WE HAVE SEPARATE EDUCATION SESSIONS.

HOPEFULLY, IT WILL CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WE TALKED TO, WE CAN HAND THEM THE PRESENTATION AND WE CAN SAY, YOU CAN HELP AND DISTRIBUTE THIS IN THE COMMUNITY. THINGS LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? >> I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, I WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF STATEMENTS. I FEEL LIKE IT IS IMPORTANT TO CORRELATE EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT TO THE OVERALL BIG PICTURE. THERE ARE MANY BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT, INCLUDING MYSELF. I AGREE WITH THE STATEMENT ON THE SURFACE AT A MICRO LEVEL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TPO, ALL LOT OF THE COUNTY DID GO TO WORK. THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT COME TO MIND, WE ARE CHALLENGED AS A COMMISSION, AS A COUNTY, AS THE CITIZENS, TO DEVELOP. WE TALK ABOUT URBAN CORE. WE TALKED ABOUT THE CENTRAL DISTRICTS, WE TALKED ABOUT THE CR , AND THERE ARE MANY OPINIONS AND STUDIES ON HOW YOU CENTRALIZE THE BUSINESS DISTRICT WITH A COMPLEMENT OF HOUSING, BECAUSE WE ARE TALK ABOUT THE INCOME LEVEL TO THE HOUSING. IF THEY DO NOT HAVE TO DRIVE TO WORK, THEY ARE SAVING MONEY. SO WE ARE GOING TO CHALLENGE EVERY COMMISSIONER REGARDING DEVELOPMENT. AND WE ARE TO TALK ABOUT A FEW OF THOSE TONIGHT. AND HOW DO YOU BALANCE THAT WITH THE TRACTION OF DEVELOPMENT AT THE CENTRAL CORE QUESTION THOSE ARE MY STRUGGLES. YOU AND I WILL HAVE TO CALL. MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I HAVE TWO CHILDREN, 25, 21 . THEY ARE CHANGING THIS WHOLE FORMULA, A FEW YEARS AGO THEY SAID YOU GUYS WITH YOUR PRETTY HOUSES, AND PRETTY LOTS, ARE NOT FOR ME. ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY SAY THIS IS NOT SO BAD, DAD, THIS IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO. SO HOW DO I DO THAT? I HAVE TWO CHILDREN AND I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY CAN STAY IN FORT PIERCE IF THEY WANT TO LIVE IN OUR HOME. THEY WANTED TO BE STABILIZED . BUT THEY WANT A MORTGAGE. IF YOU ARE IN THE RENTAL MARKET, IF YOU LOOK AT THE UNITS AROUND THE CITY, THERE ARE FOLKS WHO DO WANT TO RENT, AND THERE ARE FOLKS WHO WANT TO BUY. MY SPECIFIC QUESTION, YOU TALKED ABOUT A CITY HAVING A GOOD BALANCE , EARLY IN YOUR PRESENTATION YOU SAID IT WAS 40% OF HOMEOWNERS, BUT WHAT IS THE GOOD BALANCE? YOU SAID THAT WAS A GOOD BALANCE, BUT HOW ABOUT KAMMERER -- COMPARING THAT TO OTHER COMMUNITIES?

>> THERE IS NOT A MAGIC FORMULA. I BELIEVE IT WAS 45%

FOR A SINGLE-FAMILY UNIT. >> TOTAL HOUSING UNITS THAT ARE

SINGLE-FAMILY. >> THAT IS ABOUT THE HOMEOWNERSHIP RATE. ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I BRING THIS UP,

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IT IS ABOUT ECONOMIC SUSTAINABILITY. WHY WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT METRIC, SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, THAT RATIO, COMMUNITIES WITH A HIGHER RATE SURE -- RATIOS FOR SINGLE-FAMILY UNITS, WILL SEE A DOWNTURN. THERE ARE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE A HIGH RATIO FOR ALL FAMILY HOMES, AND SOME OF THEM ARE NEARBY. SO WE LOOK AT THE METRICS. IT IS A BETTER RATIO THAN WHAT WE SEE IN OTHER PLACES. WE WERE COMPARING AND LOOKING AT DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS. THERE IS NO PERFECT RATIO. WHAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT IS UNDERSTAND THIS SPECIFIC COMMUNITIES, WHAT ARE THEIR NEEDS? WE LOOK AT THE WORKFORCE. WE LOOK AT THE AGE BRACKETS, INCOME BRACKETS. AND WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT A GOOD MIX WILL LOOK LIKE. FOR AN EXAMPLE, SINGLE-FAMILY UNITS ALONE, DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE ARE OUT OF BALANCE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT WE MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT THE SIZE OF A SINGLE-FAMILY UNIT. THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPAND OPTIONS, FOR AN EXAMPLE FOR SENIORS. BUT JUST THE SINGLE-FAMILY UNIT HOMES IS NOT THE WHOLE PICTURE. WE HAVE FIRST HOMEBUYERS, LIKE WHAT YOU CHILDREN WANT TO BE, SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT A VARIETY OF FACTORS AND METRICS TO COME UP WITH A MIXED BALANCE . THERE IS NOT A PERFECT RATIO. THERE ARE SOME RATIOS THAT ARE SO OUT OF BALANCE THAT IT WILL IMPACT THE

COMMUNITY. >> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, I KIND OF KNEW THAT, FROM A COMMON SENSE PERSPECTIVE, AS I WAS ANALYZING THE INFORMATION THAT YOU PROVIDED. BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A GOOD BALANCE, WHAT WOULD THAT BALANCE LOOK LIKE? ONCE AGAIN THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS, I WILL TALK ABOUT MY FAMILY, BUT WHATEVER IT IS, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE RENTAL RATES THAT THE COMMISSIONERS ARE TALKING ABOUT IT IS GOING TO BE HARD , BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY.

WHAT IS IMPORTANT , AND I ALWAYS DWELL ON THAT, THE URBAN CORE PERSPECTIVE, TRANSPORTATION ELEMENTS THAT WE TALK ABOUT QUITE OFTEN. BECAUSE FOLKS NEED TO MOVE ALL AROUND AND ABOUT, WE ALL HAVE VEHICLES, THAT IS OKAY. BUT THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO CREATE, THE SUCCESS FORMULA. WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THOSE METHODS. I MAY NOT BE THE PERSON WHO IS GOING TO LIVE DOWNTOWN. BUT THERE ARE FOLKS WHO DO WANT TO DO THAT, THAT IS OKAY, THAT IS VERY GOOD. BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION. ESPECIALLY THE POPULATION GROWTH . IT IS INTRIGUING . IT IS EXCITING AT THE SAME TIME. I KNOW THAT FORT PIERCE , WHEN I CAME BACK AFTER SCHOOL, IT HAS BEEN VERY SMALL . IT DID DIP A FEW YEARS BUT IT DID COME BACK UP. IT IS INTRIGUING TO SEE THAT THIS GROWTH CURVE LOOKING LIKE

THIS. >> IT IS EXCITING. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS IMPORTANT WHEN WE SEE A POPULATION GROWTH LIKE THIS, ACTION IS TAKEN TO MAINTAIN THE COST OF LIVING.

AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE. THAT BROUGHT PEOPLE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. I LIVE IN COLUMBUS, OHIO, FOR A WHILE WE WERE ON THE LIST OF THE FASTEST-GROWING CITIES IN THE COUNTRY. AND THAT HAPPENED QUICKLY. THERE WERE PERVERTS -- EFFORTS TO MEET THE HOUSING NEEDS. BUT I CANNOT SNAP MY

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FINGERS AND DO THAT IN ONE DAY. NOW COLUMBUS IS ONE OF THE FASTEST MIGRATION, IT IS NOW NEGATIVE, IT IS THE FASTEST REGARDING NOT GROWING COMMUNITIES. IF THERE ARE NO EFFORTS TO MAINTAIN THAT QUALITY OF LIFE, THE COST OF LIVING THAT BROUGHT PEOPLE IN THE FIRST PLACE, QUITE OFTEN YOU WILL SEE THAT POPULATION GROWTH DISAPPEAR.

>> THANK YOU . >> META-MAYOR, I WILL NOT REPEAT WHAT THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS SAID. ONE THING THAT I AM INTERESTED IS LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS IN THE SURVEY.

THAT YOU GOT WHEN YOU PUT YOUR PRESENTATION TOGETHER BUT JUST TO SEE WHERE THEY ARE COMING FROM. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON REPRESENTS A DISTRICT, I DO UNDERSTAND THE HIGH RENT PART, I AM LOOKING AT HOMEOWNER PART. I WANT TO BRING THAT COMMUNITY ON BOARD TO CATCH UP, TO KEEP GOING. MADAME MAYOR I WAS LOOKING FOR THAT MAGIC SOLUTION, I AM GOING TO KEEP

WORKING. >> I WILL SAY THIS WILL AFFECT THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT NOT ONE POPULATION, AND IN FLORIDA WE HAVE THAT INSURANCE ISSUE. AT I ALSO THINK THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW , THERE ARE A LOT OF FACTORS WHERE HOUSING IS AFFORDABLE OR NOT. I KNOW PERSONALLY, LONGTIME PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE, WHO BOUGHT A CONDO OR WHATEVER COME NOW THE MAINTENANCE FEES ARE MAKING IT SO THAT THEY ARE NOW ON A FIXED INCOME. THIS CUTS ACROSS ALL SEGMENTS OF THE POPULATION, WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. YOUR REPORT IS TIMELY. BUT THIS IS A STATEWIDE PROBLEM , AS YOU SAID IT IS ALSO A COUNTRYWIDE PROBLEM. WE GOT A BIG PROBLEM TO DEAL WITH, A BIGGER PROBLEM THAN JUST FORT PIERCE OR THE COUNTY .

>> THE INSURERS COST, AND YOU NOTICE IT IS NOT IN MY REPORT, THAT IS BECAUSE I DO NOT AVE A MAGIC WAND.

>> NOBODY DOES. >> THE SOLUTIONS WILL HAVE TO COME FROM DIFFERENT PLACES, OTHER THAN THE ROOM, BUT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION. BUT DESPITE THAT INCREASE IN THE INSURANCE COST, IT DOES AFFECT THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM AND THE COMMUNITY. I CANNOT CHANGE INSURANCE. WE ARE TRYING TO DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN WITH THE SITUATION THAT WE ARE

FACING. >> I KNOW. THIS PROBLEM IS MUCH BIGGER , BEYOND HOUSING, BUT THAT IS WHERE YOU FEEL IT.

WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK, WE LOOK FORWARD TO

[11. CONSENT AGENDA]

WORKING WITH YOU IN THE FUTURE.

>> THANK YOU. >> NEXT ITEM IS THE CONSENT AGENDA , DO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONER WHO WOULD LIKE TO

PULL A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM ? >> I WOULD LIKE TO PULL 11C .

FOR ITEM 11 C . >> A

[c. Approval of request by Cynthia G. Angelos, Esq. for a waiver of potential conflict of interest due to her prior representation of the City of Fort Pierce.]

CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY BEFORE THIS MEETING.

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OF A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. ORIGINALLY WHEN THIS WAS PLACED ON THE AGENDA, ONE CASE WAS FROM 2011. AND THIS INCLUDED HER HAS BEEN REACHED. HOWEVER, IT IS TECHNICALLY STILL ONGOING, THERE ARE PARTIES IN THE BANKRUPTCY PROCESS THAT WILL AFFECT PAYMENT TO THE CITY. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT MS. ANGELA'S HAD A SMALL PART IN INVOLVEMENT WAS THAT THE BEGINNING. I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT CLARIFICATION.

>> I AM SATISFIED. FOR US TO BE AWARE OF THIS, TO BE PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD, IN CASE THERE IS A CONTROVERSY WITH THE SETTLEMENT. AND WE WANTED TO BE AWARE OF THIS AND WE WANTED TO BE A PART OF THE RECORD. THIS IS FOR CONSENT

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11C . >>

>> WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE JUDICIAL HEARINGS, WE HAVE

[a. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Review and approval of an application for a Final Plat, submitted by the applicant District Planning Group, to subdivide one (1) parcel into one-hundred and twenty-seven (127) lots with corresponding roadway tract and easements at 5000 Peterson Road, more specifically at Parcel ID: 2407-700-0027-000-9.]

DISTRICT PLANNING GROUP, TO SUBDIVIDE ONE PARCEL INTO 127 LOTS WITH CORRESPONDING ROADWAY TRACK AND EASEMENTS AT 5000 PETERSON ROAD, MORE SPECIFICALLY PARTIAL NUMBER

2407-700-0027-000-9. >> WHEN ACTING AS A LEGISLATOR, FOR LAWMAKING ACTIVITY, WHEN ACTING AS A QUASIJUDICIAL IS HELD TO REQUIREMENTS. PROCEEDINGS ARE LESS FORMAL , BUT MORE FORMAL THAN A REGULAR COMMISSION MEETING. THEY MUST FOLLOW DUE PROCESS, AND DECISIONS MUST BE MADE ON THE EVIDENCE. YOU HAVE A DUTY TO CONDUCT THAT QUASIJUDICIAL DUTIES . THAT IS WHY WE HAVE PROCEDURES FOR QUADS I JUDICIAL HEARINGS. NO ONE SHOULD APPROACH THE COMMISSIONERS, DIET, DURING THE HEARING .

>> HAS THE ADVERTISING HAS BEEN MET?

>> YES, IT HAS BEEN MET. >>

>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES?

>> PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

>> YES. >> BEFORE YOU IS AN APPLICATION FOR FINAL PLAT , SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT DISTRICT PLANNING GROUP . IN SUMMARY THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A REVIEW FOR THE APPLICATION TO SUBDIVIDE ONE PARCEL INTO 127 LOTS, WITH COURSE FADING -- CORRESPONDING ROADWAY TRACK AND EASEMENT . THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE, IS RESIDENTIAL. THE CURRENT ZONING IS PLAN DEVELOPMENT THIS IS THE FINAL PLOT IN QUESTION. THIS IS

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STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL. AND THIS STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDE APPROPRIATE SIGNATURES, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FLORIDA STATE STATUTE.

DECEMBER 11, 2023 WE VOTED THIS RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. TONIGHT , VOTE ON THE INAUDIBLE ] THIS IS RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL .

>> WE WILL START WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING, WILL THE APPLICANT PLEASE COME FORWARD? PLEASE TELL US WHAT EVER YOU

NEED TO TELL US, MISS OLSON. >> IT IS GOOD TO SEE YOU THIS EVENING. IT WAS VERY INTERESTING . MY NAME IS LESLIE OLSON, MY ADDRESS IS DOWNTOWN. I HAVE ONE QUICK CONNECTION, THERE IS NOT A LOT TO TALK ABOUT HERE, BUT PART OF THE HOUSING CONVERSATION IS THIS KIND OF THING. GETTING MORE SUPPLY INTO THE MARKET. AS SUPPLY AND DEMAND, THIS IS ECONOMICS, THERE ARE MANY OTHER THINGS TO ADDRESS WITH A AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WE WILL SPEAK ABOUT THAT MORE THIS EVENING. WE JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT, WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT REGARDING THIS, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WE ARE AVAILABLE.

>> DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, IF SO PLEASE COME UP FRONT. HEARING THEN I WILL HAND THE SPEC OVER

TO THE COMMISSIONERS. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

[b. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Review and approval of an application for a Site Plan (Development and Design Review), submitted by applicant Francarlos Rivera with TEG Developers, to construct a two-hundred and twenty-two (222) unit rental community with an amenity center and associated development improvements at 3037 S. Jenkins Road, more specifically at Parcel ID: 2325-111-0001-000-2.]

APPROVAL OF AN APPLICANT FOR 222 UNIT RENTAL COMMUNITY WITH AN AMENITY CENTER AND ASSOCIATED DEVELOPMENT IMPROVEMENTS .

>> I SPOKE TO THE RESIDENTS OF WARD GAIT COMMUNITY .

>> PLEASE SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES .

>> ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK HIM UP PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR HAND. DO YOU AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, AND NOTHING

BUT THE TRUTH? >> BEFORE YOU IS AN APPLICATION FOR DEVELOPMENT DESIGN REVIEW, THIS IS VIVA WEST, AT 3037 SOUTH JENKINS ROAD. IN SUMMARY THIS IS A REQUEST FOR REVIEW FOR A SITE PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR 222 RENTAL COMMUNITY. THE COMMUNITY WILL CONSIST OF ONE BEDROOM, TWO BEDROOM, THREE BEDROOM DUPLEXES AS WELL AS TWO BEDROOM ROWHOUSES BUT ADD VIA EAST IS A SISTER PROJECT .

BOTH COMMUNITIES WILL SHARE ACCESS TO AMENITIES SUCH AS A FITNESS CENTER, THIS IS ACROSS FROM THE KOA CAMPGROUND. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS LOCATED ON A PARCEL WITH A FUTURE LAND USE OF RM DEVELOPMENT -- MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL,

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ZONING ARE FOR -- R4 . THIS IS THE SITE PLAN FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, AND THIS IS GIVING YOU WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE. THIS IS THE BREAKDOWN FOR THE PLAN, YOU CAN SEE ONE BEDROOM UNITS, TWO BEDROOM UNITS. THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE QUESTION, I AM SORRY, THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. THIS IS A BREAKDOWN OF THE DIFFERENT LANDSCAPING. AND THIS WILL IS BEING PROPOSED . THIS IS THE ONE BEDROOM DUPLEX. THIS IS THE ELEVATION FOR TWO DUPLEXES, THIS IS FORT PIERCE BEDROOM DUPLEXES WITHOUT GARAGES, THIS IS WITH A GARAGE. THESE ARE THE EPILATION -- THIS IS TWO BEDROOM. THIS IS NOT BEEN BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD, WE JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE REFERENCE TO THE SISTER PROJECT. ADD IT CONSIST OF 235. THE RECOMMENDATION , STAFF RECOMMENDS FOUR RECOMMENDATIONS. A COMPLICATION CERTIFICATION BY LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, COST ESTIMATES AND LANDSCAPE ON REQUIRED BEFORE THE FINAL CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS APPROVED FOR THE SITE. A GO FOR TORCHES SURVEY WILL BE REQUIRED PER STATE STATUTE BEFORE CONSTRUCTION CAN BEGIN .

ADDRESS , EXCUSE ME, ADDRESSES WILL NEED TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT FOR ALL UNITS PRIOR TO BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATIONS. PRIOR TO THE SITE CLEARING, THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE TREE MITIGATION SURVEY ADD COORDINATE WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FOR THE REQUIRED MITIGATION OF THE CITY REGULATED TREE PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED AS A RESULT OF THE SITES DEVELOPMENT, CONSTRUCTION

ACTIVITIES. >> DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS

FOR THE STAFF? >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE DEVELOPER, BUT WE WILL GET TO THAT IN A MOMENT. THE SIDEWALK WILL BE ON JENKINS, I AM ASSUMING QUESTION MAY FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS -- I AM ASSUMING. FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT SIDEWALKS ON JENKINS ROAD.

THERE WAS A COMPLEX THAT WE DID APPROVE. SO IS THIS STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE TO INCORPORATE A SIDEWALK

REQUIREMENT? >> YES. I THINK IN THE LAST TWO YEARS WE MOVE A STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE THAT WE COMMUNICATED WITH THE COUNTY. WE ASSESS WITH THE COUNTY WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS A CAPITAL PROJECT ON BOARD FOR THE INTRODUCTION OF THE SIDEWALK IN THAT ROADWAY. IF THERE ARE NOT CAPITAL PROJECTS SCHEDULED WITHIN THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS WE ASKED THE APPLICANT TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO LOCATE THE SIDEWALK IN THE APPROPRIATE LOCATION.

>> IN THEORY, THERE COULD BE THE EXPANSION OF JENKINS ROAD, BUT THE SIDEWALK SHOULD BE LOCATED, --

>> I BELIEVE THAT RIGHT AWAY WAS DESIGNATED BY THE COUNTY.

>> SOTO WE ARE NOW BASICALLY FILLING IN THE BLANKS AS WE GO, SO THEY CAN INSTALL THOSE SIDEWALKS RIGHT NOW. IT IS SIGNIFICANTLY OFF THE ROADWAY . BUT THE MASTER PLAN IT WILL

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DEAL WITH THE SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION. EVEN THOUGH IT

HAS BEEN SPOTTY FOR SOME TIME. >> COULD YOU GO BACK TO YOUR PRESENTATION ? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPE, THE FINISHED PROJECT, DO YOU HAVE A PICTURE? THIS IS THE SITE PLAN, IS THIS GOING TO HAVE A BORDER AROUND THE LAND, DID I MISS THAT? WILL IT BE A TREE LINE? WHAT IS CURRENTLY THERE AND WHAT IS PROPOSED?

>> WITH THE LANDSCAPE, I KNOW IT IS HARD TO SEE THE LINES, YOU CAN SEE FROM THE BOUNDARY BETWEEN THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH, AND TO THE NEW DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH, THERE WILL BE AN ESTABLISHED , THERE ARE CODE REQUIREMENTS, THAT IS 20 FEET. WITH THIS PROJECT EXTENDS THAT BUFFER TO 40 FEET, AND 20 FEET, IT DOES VERY. -- VARY.

ESSENTIALLY THERE IS NATIVE LANDSCAPE. I CANNOT REMEMBER

THE SPECIES, BUT IT IS NATIVE. >> SO THERE WILL BE NO FENCE?

>> YES. >> I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE.

>> I WILL COME BACK, SO THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? >> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE LAYOUT, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL, AND THE APPLICANT IS IN THE AUDIENCE, THEY CAN ANSWER. THE STORM WATER POND PLACEMENT, ARE THERE EXISTING ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS, AND WHY IS IT CONSTRUCTED THE WAY IT IS?

>> STORMWATER POND PLACEMENT, ADJACENT TO THAT NUMBER TO THE RIGHT, IS AN EXISTING WETLAND. ALL OF THAT IS GOING TO BE RETAINED AS PART OF THE STORM WATER SYSTEM. IT WAS ENGINEERED TO BE PART OF THE STORM WATER SYSTEM . AND IT WILL REMAIN THERE IS PART OF THE NATURAL SYSTEM THAT IS IN

PLACE. >> IT TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS PROPOSED HERE, WHEN YOU HAVE A DEVELOPMENT CONSTRUCTED IN THIS NATURE, AS WE SEE WITH THIS FIGURE AND IN THE PROPOSAL, AND IN THE APPLICATION, THERE ARE A LOT OF TRAVEL LANES. SO AS COMPARED TO THE FIGURE, THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES TO THE SOUTH, YOU CAN SEE A LARGE INCREASE

>> THAT IS CORRECT, THIS IS STRAIGHT ZONING. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT, WE LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT THAT IS WHERE ALL OF THIS COMES IN. I THINK THE REQUIREMENT, I THINK IT IS A MINIMUM OF 40% OF COVERAGE.

THIS SITE HAS A MAXIMUM OF 18%, 19% OF BUILDING COVERAGE . AND IN THIS AREA IT IS 18%. AND I THINK THAT WORKS OUT, I THINK IT IS 35% WILL REMAIN AS IS .

>> SO YOU ARE TO ABOUT THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT, PARKING AND AMENITIES, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. SO YOU ARE GOING TO TELL ME THE NUMBERS ARE OWING TO GO UP TO 65% TOTAL?

PERVIOUS REMAINING? >> FOR CLARIFICATION, WE MEASURE THIS AGAINST THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS . WHICH DO NOT GIVE US AN OVERALL REQUIREMENTS, BUT THEY DO GIVE US A MAXIMUM BUILDING FOOTPRINT REQUIREMENT , AND THIS IS AT

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19%. >> YOU ARE TAUGHT ABOUT THE ZONING CODE SPECIFIC TO THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT?

>> YES . >> HAVE YOU SEEN IN R4 ZONING THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR MORE PERVIOUS TO BE BUILT

WITHIN A PROJECT? >> THAT IS FEASIBLE, AND I THINK YOU CAN USE DIFFERENT MATERIAL. THE ROADWAY, SOME OF THE ROADWAYS ARE HEAVILY USED , AND MATERIAL IS AVAILABLE.

THIS IS A DIFFICULT APPLICATION , IF YOU HAVE A PLAN DEVELOPMENT , YOU WOULD HAVE TO NEGOTIATE THOSE KINDS OF THINGS BUT THIS APPLICATION CAME IN AS A STRAIGHT ZONING.

THEY ARE RESTRICTED TO THE NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE CAN INSURE OR MEET, AND WE CANNOT NECESSARILY NEGOTIATE ON THAT.

THE APPLICANT WILL PROVIDE, A QUALITY DEVELOPMENT. ALL WE CAN DO YOU ASSESSED WITH A CODE THAT WE HAVE.

>> TALK TO ME ABOUT WHEN YOU HAVE A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS, AND I DID NOT SEE THIS IN THE RENDERING SPECIFICALLY, IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE CODE OR IN THIS APPLICATION THAT WILL TALK ABOUT LIGHTING? WITH THIS FORMAT FIT ? WHAT IS THE LIGHTING SCENARIO FOR THE ENTIRE SITE? I DID NOT SEE IT . ARE YOU PREPARED TO DISCUSS THAT?

>> IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THERE. IF NOT I WILL

DEFINITELY GO BACK. >> THERE IS THE CITY RECORD -- CODE THAT REQUIRES CERTAIN LIGHTING. AND IT CAN RESTRICT THE LIGHT HITTING THE NEIGHBORS. THERE IS THIS COMBINED ANALYSIS. BUT THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS ON THIS, AND THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS. IT IS ABOUT THE BRIGHTNESS AND THE LOCATION OF THE LIGHTS.

>> WHAT I ASKED BEFORE, WITH REGARD TO THE CONFIGURATION OF THE BUILDING, SOMETIMES THERE IS A DESIGN TEAM OR THE APPLICANT CAN RECONFIGURE A SITE, TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT OF , WHETHER IT IS A PARKING LOT OR LIGHTING THE PARKING

LOT. >> THAT IS ACCURATE .

>> IT IS IMPORTANT , AND YOU TALKED ABOUT THE BUFFER ZONE, AND THAT IS GOING TO BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION FOR TONIGHT.

I KNOW YOU ARE TRYING TO LOAD THAT FIGURE, JUST KEEP LOADING IT, DO NOT HIT THE X BUTTON. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I KNOW AND UNDERSTAND WHERE THE SINGLE UNITS ARE COMPARED TO THE

SECOND . >> THE SINGLE-FAMILY, I AM SORRY, THE TWO STORY ARE GOING TO BE RIGHT HERE . THE TOWNHOMES ARE RIGHT HERE. THE ONE STORY WILL BE RIGHT HERE.

CONFIGURATION AS WELL. WHAT ABOUT THE DRIVEWAY CONNECTION, IS IT AND ALIGNED WITH THE KOA? I KNOW THE COUNTY

PROBABLY HAD INPUT ON THAT. >> IT DOES NOT DIRECTLY ALIGN

WITH THAT. >> I AM SURE ABOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WOULD HAVE TO WEIGH IN, BECAUSE IT IS A SINGLE FAMILY, MULTIPLE FAMILY, THEY WILL LET CHILDREN.

>> AS YOU CAN SEE THEY TOOK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, THEY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD. AND THEY DO HAVE

A BUS ROUTE RIGHT HERE. >> THE LAST ONE, THE

CONFIGURATION EAST AND WEST. >> THE EAST ONE IS GOING TO

BE LOCATED RIGHT HERE. >> YOU MADE REFERENCE TO SHARING AMENITIES. THAT IS INTERESTING. OKAY.

>> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE OVERALL PICTURE, THE BLACK AND

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WHITE ONE . WHAT IS CURRENTLY WEST AND EAST, WITH THIS

PICTURE? >> THIS IS GOING TO BE THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, THAT YOU SEE IN THE PICTURE RIGHT HERE.

AND JUST TO THE NORTH, IT IS A COMMERCIAL PLAN THAT HAS NOT

BEEN DEVELOPED. >> THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING

ABOUT TONIGHT. >> WE ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT

THIS PARCEL RIGHT HERE. >> WHERE YOU ARE SCROLLING, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.

>> YES, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS HIGHLIGHTED.

>> OKAY. >> MY LAST QUESTION , TRANSPORTATION ELEMENTS . WE TALKED ABOUT YOUR PRESENTATION, WE TALKED ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENTS, WHAT KIND OF CONVERSATIONS HAVE YOU HAD ABOUT THAT? IF ANY?

>> WE WILL COMMUNICATE WITH THE COUNTY, BEING THAT IT IS A COUNTY ROAD AND THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY FOR THIS COUNTY ROAD.

WE HAVE THIS TRAFFIC ANALYSIS . AND THIS WILL BE SUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY. THEY WILL RUN THAT IN ANALYSIS, AND WE WILL TAKE ANY OF THE REQUEST, WE WILL PASS THAT OVER TO THE APPLICANT BUT I BELIEVE THERE IS REQUESTS, IN TERMS OF THE IMPACT, TRAFFIC MOVEMENTS. AND ALSO THE VOLUME WITH THIS, I THINK, THE COUNTY ACCEPTED THE NEW TRAFFIC STUDY. AND PROVIDE THAT THEY DO THAT, ONCE AGAIN, WE RELY ON EXTERNAL AGENCY TO ADDRESS WHETHER OR NOT IT DOES MEET THE CODE, AND THEY DID SAY

IT DID MEET CODE. >> I KNOW THEY WEIGHED IN ON A NUMBER OF PROJECTS, FROM THE KOA , AND THE SCHOOL. WHAT ABOUT THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT?

>> HOW ABOUT TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, DID WE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, LIKE IF THERE IS A SERVICE OR IF THE COUNTY HAS THE TRANSIT AUTHORITY THAT WILL COME HERE, ARE THEY GONNA PUT A STOP RIGHT HERE?

>> IT IS A CHICKEN AND THE EGG SCENARIO. THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE POTENTIAL RIDERSHIP TO MAINTAIN INAUDIBLE ] TO EXTEND THE ROUTE. WE WILL HAVE BUS PARKING LOCATION WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT, IF THAT DOES ARISE. I AM SURE THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY, BECAUSE IN THESE LOCATIONS, -- SO YEAH IT IS A DIFFICULT SITUATION .

>> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER GAINS?

>> CAN YOU GO BACK TO YOUR DRAWING ? COMMISSIONER JOHNSON ASKED ABOUT IT, THIS BUFFER, RIGHT HERE . WE SAID IT WAS GOING TO BE NATURAL. BUT MY QUESTION IS THIS , I HAVE THESE RESIDENCE RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE DIRT, SAND AND TREES.

YOU WERE GONNA PUT IN CONCRETE AND ROADS. I UNDERSTAND , AND I AM SURPRISE WITH MY COLLEAGUES, WHAT IS BEING DONE OR CAN SOMEBODY EXPLAIN WHAT HAS BEEN DONE? WHAT ABOUT THE LAKE AND THE WETLAND? THIS COULD BE FOR THE DEVELOPER, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN TELL ME, SO THAT I CAN LET THE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE THESE HOUSES RIGHT HERE, THAT THIS WATER IS NOT GOING TO RUN TOWARDS THEM? AND WE WANTED TO RUN TO THE

LAKE . >> THE STAFF RELY ON THE STEADY CODE, THAT REQUIRES A STORMWATER SYSTEM TO BE DESIGNED AND BUILT INTO ACCORDANCE WITH THAT DESIGN.

AS FAR IS WHERE WE ARE CONCERNED, WE DID A REVIEW ON THAT, UNDERTAKEN BY OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT. AND IT IS DESIGN IT IT WILL OPERATE IN A WAY THAT IT WILL PROTECT AS

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FAR AS POSSIBLE, WE DO HAVE STORM EVENTS WHERE IT CAN BE DIFFICULT TO DEAL WITHTHAT. BUT IN NORMAL CYCLIC STANCES THAT DESIGN SHOULD BE ADEQUATE TO MAINTAIN THE WATERS WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT IS ANALYZED CAREFULLY BY THE ENGINEERS. AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A STORMWATER DESIGN TO THE CITY, AND IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG

THERE IS RECOURSE. >> THE REASON I ASK, BECAUSE THESE STORMS ARE POPPING UP QUITE FREQUENTLY. JUST LOOK AT YESTERDAY, WE HAD CERTAIN AREAS THAT FLOODED QUICK . I KNOW THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO LOOK AT IT, YOU WENT FROM DIRT AND SAND AND TREES, AND BUSHES TO A ROAD , 22 UNITS . I AM JUST HOPING, YOU KNOW, THAT WE PROTECT THE

RESIDENT THAT ARE THERE. >> AT THE MOMENT THIS PROPERTY DOES NOT HAVE ANY STORMWATER MANAGEMENT ON IT. AND IT CAN BE HARD TO ACCEPT, ONCE SOMETHING IS BUILT, THIS IS USUALLY AN IMPROVEMENT TO THE EXISTING STORMWATER SYSTEM.

YOU KNOW THE NEW SYSTEM WILL BE DESIGNED TO MAINTAIN STORMWATER ON THE PROPERTY. IN THE PRESENT SITUATION THIS IS NOT GUARANTEED. SO THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT DIMENSION.

>> YOU HAVE EDUCATED ME ON THAT SEVERAL TIMES SINCE I'VE BEEN UP HERE. AND I DO RELY ON THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW A LOT OF MY COLLEAGUES WERE ENGINEERS. BUT I AM GOING TO ASK A QUESTION, BECAUSE I WILL GUARANTEE THAT SOME OF THE RESIDENCE HAVE TO BE THINKING ABOUT THIS AS WELL, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GOING TO PROTECT OUR PROPERTY? AND LIKE I SAID, I DO RELY ON THE ENGINEER DEPARTMENT, AND THAT

IS ALL THAT I HAVE. >> I HAVE A QUESTION, I AM GLAD THAT WE BROUGHT UP THAT IT IS A COUNTY ROAD. IT IS THEIR JURISDICTION. WHEN THE SCHOOL WENT IN, ALMOST DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THEY HAD SIGNIFICANT REQUEST TO IMPROVE EDWARDS , IF I REMEMBER .

AND THAT WAS JUST FOR THE SCHOOL. TO ME THIS WOULD INCREASE TRAFFIC ON THIS ROAD WITH THESE NEW HOMES . I PRESUME THAT THAT PURPLE THING IS THE SCHOOL. BUT THAT ROAD IS HEAVILY USED FOR TRUCKS, THERE IS A LOT OF TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD. I THINK WITH THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND THE EASE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU ARE INCREASING THE BUSYNESS OF THAT WHOLE AREA. TENFOLD. BUT WE WILL LISTEN TO THE APPLICANT. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF? I WOULD LIKE THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD,

PLEASE. >> STATE YOUR NAME . AND I WOULD ALSO ASK YOU DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF?

>> NO. >> DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS US

ON THE PROJECT? >> JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND, WE ARE A NATIONAL MULTI FAMILY DEVELOPER

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BUILDER AND OPERATOR WE MAINTAIN PROPERTY ACROSS UNITED STATES, AND TWO IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA . AND TWO ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION. TO GIVE YOU A BETTER IDEA ON WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, PROVIDE A SINGLE-FAMILY LIVING EXPERIENCE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN ACHIEVE IN A MULTI FAMILY SETTING. WE DO THAT BY KEEPING THE FOOTPRINT SMALL, SCALE IT DOWN TO THOSE OF THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. ON AVERAGE THEY ARE ABOUT 20 FEET TALL . THIS IS THE TOWNHOME PRODUCT. IT IS ON PAR WITH MOST OF YOUR STANDARD SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT UNITS. IN TERMS OF THE, LET ME GO DOWN THE LIST OF CONCERNS, WITH REGARDING THE SIDEWALK , WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO PUTTING IN THE SIDEWALK. OUR CONCERN WAS A MISUSE OF THEIR RESOURCES, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COUNTY IS A LITTLE FLAKY WITH THE EXTENSION OF JENKINS ROAD.

SO I HAVE BEEN GETTING A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TIMELINES ON WHAT THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN. FOR TWO YEARS I HAVE HEARD FIVE YEARS, LAST TIME ON RECORD THEY SAID IT WOULD NOT HAPPEN UNTIL 2027. IF THAT IS THE CASE, WE ARE HAPPY TO INSTALL THIS SIDEWALK RIGHT NOW. BUT IF IT IS MORE THAN TWO YEARS, IT WOULD BE BETTER TO USE THOSE RESOURCES, ESPECIALLY IF SOMETHING IS GOING TO BE CHANGED AFTER IT IS INSTALLED BUT WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO IT, WE ARE HAPPY TO DO IT, THAT IS OUR ONLY CONCERN.

>> JUST BEFORE, WERE YOU SWORN IN?

>> YES . WITH REGARDS TO THE STORMWATER, LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CYBER THERE IS A RIDGE THAT GOES EAST TO WEST, I WANT TO SAY ABOUT SIX FEET. IT WILL SLOPE TO THE NORTH , TOWARDS THE CANAL. THE WATER IS BASICALLY GOING TO FLOW. WE ARE ADDING A BUILDING FOOTPRINT. WE ARE GOING TO DESIGN THE PROPERTY TO COLLECT ALL OF THE STORMWATER TO STORE ON-SITE. AND IN A CONTROLLED MANNER IT WILL GO INTO THE CANAL. EVERY ROOFTOP WILL HAVE BALANCES, WE WILL TAKE THE STORM WATER FROM THE ROOF STOP, STRAIGHT INTO THE SYSTEM, HYPOTHETICALLY IT SHOULD NEVER HIT THE PAVEMENT UNLESS THAT IS WHERE IT NATURALLY LANDS. WITH ALL OF THOSE THINGS CONSIDER WE CANNOT PROMISE IT WILL NOT BE A BENEFIT, BUT WHAT WE CAN SAY IT WILL NOT NEGATIVELY AFFECT THEM. LET ME SEE. IN TERMS OF LIGHTING, WE ACTUALLY PROVIDED A PLAN WITH THE APPLICATION. IT IS RESIDENTIAL LIGHTING , AND WE DO LIMIT THE HEIGHT OF ALL OF OUR PICTURES TO AVOID LIGHT POLLUTION INTO THE COMMUNITY. WE WILL DIVE DEEPER, YOU KNOW, DURING THE ENGINEERING AND SITE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. WITH REGARDS TO THE DRIVEWAY, IT DOES ALIGN WITH THE KOA K WAY -- DRIVEWAY. IT ALIGNS RIGHT THERE . AS FAR IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, WE WERE DEALING WITH MR. STANDRIDGE PRIOR TO HIS RETIREMENT . HE PROVIDED A ON BY -- HE WANTED US TO PROVIDE SHELTER FOR THE BUS. TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT, THIS IS A COUNTY CONTROL ROAD, AND THE COUNTY HAS BEEN TIGHTLIPPED, WE DO NOT HAVE MANY COMMENTS AFTER THE REQUEST . WE WILL SUBMIT THE SITE APPLICATION FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW . LET ME

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SEE, I THINK I AM MISSING SOMETHING. WITH REGARDS TO INCREASE TRAFFIC. THIS PROJECT SEVERAL MONTHS BACK, WAS BEFORE THE COMMISSION , FOR THE REASON FOR FUTURE LAND USE.

THE PREVIOUS LAND-USE AND THE PREVIOUS ZONING WAS COMMERCIAL, AS THE RESULT OF THEIR REZONED THERE IS ACTUALLY A DECREASE TO THE TRIPS ON JENKINS ROAD, BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO CONVERT THE PROPERTY FROM COMMERCIAL TO MULTI FAMILY.

THAT IS ALL THAT I GOT. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? PRESENTATION. IN A ROUNDABOUT WAY I WILL MAKE IT BRIEF, THIS PROJECT STRIKES ME AS A NEW CONCEPT OF HOUSING. TO MIMIC SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSING IN AN UPSCALE ENVIRONMENT, FOR

PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO RENT. >> I WOULD NOT CALL IT UPSCALE.

THIS IS GOING TO BE MARKET RATE HOUSING, WE ARE TARGETING THE WORKFORCE. IT IS HARD TO PREDICT TWO YEARS DOWN THE LINE WHEN THE DOORS WILL ACTUALLY OPEN. WE ARE ABOUT 10% NORTH OF THE HOUSING RATES. WE OFFER INCENTIVES. FOR ALL OF THE NEW WAREHOUSES THAT ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED, WE ARE GOING TO BUFFER COMMERCIAL AREAS. SO THAT WE CAN OFFER THINGS I DISCOUNTS FOR EMTS AND POLICE OFFICERS ET CETERA .

>> FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING, WE HAVE TO WORK, LIVE AND PLAY IN A SMALL GENERAL AREA WITH A VARIETY OF SERVICES THAT ARE INCREASING MONTHLY OUT THERE AND ALSO AFFORDABLE. YOUR CONCEPT, AND YOU JUST BROUGHT THAT UP, IS TO POTENTIAL INAUDIBLE ] TO OFFER INCENTIVES. TO HAVE THEIR EMPLOYEES HOUSED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

>> WE OFFER THIS FOR THE COMMUNITY.

>> WAS IT SUCCESSFUL? >> YES.

>> WE WERE TANTAMOUNT INCENTIVES EARLIER TONIGHT, THIS IS PRIVATE INCENTIVE ASIAN DASH -- PRIVATE

INCENTIVES . >> I HAVE A QUESTION, I REMEMBER THIS BEFORE THE LAND CHANGE. IT EXPOSED US AT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE EXPOSED TO WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. AND I DID NOT HAVE ANY PRIOR KNOWLEDGE.

>> THAT WAS A DIFFERENT APPLICATION. YOU WERE NOT LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN , BUT YOU WERE LOOKING AT THE FUTURE

LAND USE. >> TALK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY, DID YOU CONDUCT A TRAFFIC STUDY TO HELP US UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT WE HAD ENGINEERING, I DO NOT KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER OF TRIPS ON THE PROPERTY , BUT I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A LEFT T■URN N ND A RIGHT TURN IN. THE TRAFFIC I

KNOW WILL BE LAST, -- >> WAS IT IN THE PACKET?

>> THAT WAS THE FUTURE LAND USE CHANGE. WE ARE JUST DEALING WITH RESIDENTIAL . THIS WAS COMMERCIAL , AND THIS IS BETWEEN THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC USING

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OVERLAPPING SPEAKERS ] >> THEY SUBMITTED THAT TRAFFIC

IMPACT, -- >> CAN YOU TALK ABOUT, WE HEARD ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING .

>> THE WORKFORCE HOUSING , WITH THE WORKFORC HOUSING RATES, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS NOT OUR ] AND IT RANGE FROM 80% TO 120% . THAT IS BASED ON THE RATES. AND BASED ON THE PUBLIC SCHEDULE, YOU KNOW THAT IS A THREE BEDROOM, ROUGHLY $2600 A MONTH . THIS IS HUD'S

RATES. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON?

>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST IN THE CITY. YOU MENTIONED BEFORE THAT YOU HAD 27 FACILITIES AROUND THE UNITED STATES, TWO IN FLORIDA. SO THIS WILL BE YOUR THIRD QUESTION

>> WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE IN ACQUISITION . WE HAVE TWO PROPERTIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN OPERATION. AND THIS WILL BE

OUR FOURTH. >> WITH YOUR COMPANY'S EXPERIENCE WITH THIS TYPE OF APPLICATION, IN 27, DID YOU HOLD ONTO THEM, DID YOU DEVELOP THEM? HOW DID THAT WORK?

>> FOR THE MOST PART WE ACQUIRED THEM. WE STARTED WITH DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO . WE HAD KENTUCKY TOWERS, THAT WAS A MULTIFAMILY PROJECT IN THE CITY. AND SINCE THEN WE MOVED TO A DOWNSCALE PRODUCT, THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU. THE INTENTION IS TO OWN AND OPERATE

AND MAINTAIN. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. YOU CAN TAKE THIS ON AND GET IT RUNNING AND TRANSFER IT?

>> YES AND NO. WE GET IT UP AND RUNNING, THEN IT WILL TRANSFER OVER TO OUR OPERATIONS. GOING FROM THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE OPERATION, I GUESS IT IS A TRANSFER.

>> POSSIBLY YOU HEARD ME SPEAK EARLIER ABOUT HOW OUR SPECIFIC CITY IS BEING LOOKED AT ALL OF THE TIME FOR THIS WESTERN QUARTER. YOU TALKED ABOUT THE CITY. AND THAT IS A JOINT EFFORT. MYSELF AND COMMISSIONER JOHNSON WE SET ON THE BOARD OF TRANSPORTATION. THIS IS ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENTS BUT THAT IS WHY WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS, AND THE MAYOR MENTION THE IMPROVEMENTS AND WHATNOT. AS WE LOOK AT OUR CITY, AND MY QUESTION TO YOU IS SPECIFIC TO YOUR APPLICATION TONIGHT. YES I UNDERSTAND IT IS MULTIFAMILY ZONING, I UNDERSTAND THAT. YOU HEARD ME ASK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF DESIGN, AND I AM ASSUMING THAT THE APARTMENTS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT IN ANOTHER CITY WAS MULTISTORIED. DID YOU EVALUATE

THIS SITE QUESTION >> WE DID NOT, WE ARE MAKING A SHIFT IN DEVELOPMENT. THIS WAS IN ACQUISITION, SO THAT PROJECT HAS A NUMBER OF ISSUES. WE PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO THE PROJECT. IT WAS NOT NECESSARILY GROUND-UP. IT WAS ACQUISITION. WHEN WE MADE THE MOVE INTO THE MARKET, WE

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STARTED WITH MORE COMMON PRODUCTS THAT YOU SEE, LIKE THREE-STORY , AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM. WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE A BETTER LIVING EXPERIENCE. WE WANT TO KEEP IT SIMPLISTIC, LOW SCALE. ON PAPER IT DOES READ AS PAUL -- SPRAWL . BUT IT WOULD BE A BETTER LIVING EXPERIENCE, AND I THINK WE WILL BENEFIT FROM

IT. >> THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ELEMENT OF YOUR PROPOSAL HAD BEEN LOOKED AT, AND VETTED THROUGH YOUR CORPORATION, THROUGH YOUR COMPANY. THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE FOR YOU, ARE THERE ANY OTHER PROJECTS LIKE THIS WHERE YOU ARE DEVELOPING A PIECE OF PROPERTY, FROM THE URBAN JUST TALKED ABOUT EARLIER TONIGHT, WHERE YOU HAVE ANOTHER TRACK OF LAND NEXT DOOR. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER

PROJECTS THAT ARE SIMILAR? >> TREASURE COAST EAST, IN ST. LUCIE . THAT IS A SIMILAR ONE.

>> IS NOT LIKE KIMBERLIN WROTE?

>> WE ACTUALLY HAVE U.S. 1 DOWN TO KIMBERLIN ROAD .

>> IS THAT ADJACENT TO LARGER TRACTS OF LAND?

>> IT IS A BIG MIX UP THERE , THEY HAVE ONE ACRE, AND LESS,

THEY ARE ALL OVER. >> I SPOKE TO THEM AND THEY WERE INTERESTED IN THE APPLICATION, AND THOSE ARE THERE CONCERNS, THEY ARE USE TO A WESTERN STYLE OF LIVING, ONE ACRE , CUL-DE-SAC, OR ANY DEAD-END STREET. THEY TALKED ABOUT STORMWATER ELEMENTS, LIGHTING, AND I BRING THIS QUESTION TO THE STEP OF YOU KNOW, SO YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THOSE. AND THESE ARE THE COMMENTS THAT I HAVE HEARD.

HOW DO YOU ADDRESS THOSE CONDITIONS WITH THE BUFFER? YOUR STAFF TALKED ABOUT THE PRESERVATION AND THE BUFFER, IS THERE ANYTHING IN YOUR PLAN TO ASSIST THOSE QUESTIONS THAT

MIGHT COME UP? >> YES, SIR. I THINK THERE WAS A MISCOMMUNICATION WITH THE LOWER EAST PROPERTY LINE.

BRIAR GAIT LANE , WE HAVE FENCING AND LANDSCAPING. THERE WILL BE A VISUAL CONTROL. AND FROM THAT FENCE, TYPICALLY WE DO ABOUT AN EIGHT FOOT PRIVACY FENCE. SO THERE IS SOMETHING

TO BREAK THE VISUAL LINE. >> WHAT IS YOUR PLAN AND SCOPE, I KNOW THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT HAS EVALUATED THIS, HOW WILL YOU ADDRESS THIS QUESTION

>> WE HAVE AN ON-SITE TRASH COMPACTOR, JUST NORTH TO WHERE

YOUR MOUSE IS HOVERING. >> I SEE IT, AT THE TOP, THE

NORTH END OF THE STREET. >> BASED ON THE COMMUNITY, WE HAVE THE IMPACTOR ENCLOSED SPECIFICALLY .

>> ALL RIGHT. >> STORMWATER I KNOW WILL BE AN APPROVED INSIDE. TRANSPORTATION ELEMENTS, YOU HEARD ME TALK ABOUT THAT. YOU HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, BEFORE MR. STANDARD RETIRED .

>> WE HAVE BUSTING -- BUSING .

>> I WALKED DOWN JENKINS ROAD, UNTIL THE SIDEWALKS ARE IN PLACE IT WILL BE DIFFICULT TO MAKE THAT CALL.

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>> WILL SAY FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, THERE IS A FULL TO THE FOURTH. WE HAVE NOTICED. YOU ARE OKAY WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED? YOU TALK ABOUT THAT

? THANK YOU. >> YES. WE HAVE RESIDENTS THAT WANT TO TESTIFY. YOU THE STORM HAVE ANYONE -- HAS ANYONE FROM YOUR COMPANY GONE OUT AND TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS AND GOT ANY FEEDBACK OR CONCERNS THAT NEIGHBORS HAVE OR TONIGHT THE FIRST NIGHT YOU WILL BE HEARING FROM YOU NEIGHBORS? MAKE IT HAS BEEN SO LONG. THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN ABOUT TWO YEARS THE.

MEETING WITH THE. THEY WERE SUPPLIED FOR LAND-USE AMENDMENT WHEN THEY WERE FIRST I WITH THE SITE PLAN . I BELIEVE THAT I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY? WHAT IS GENERALLY A FINAL. CHAIN-LINK

? >> NOTE THERE. IT WILL BE A VISUAL CONTROL. IT WILL BE A FULL PRICE, WHITE AND JULIE.

MORE OFTEN IT IS MORE OFTEN MUCH. MUCH HEAVIER DUTY PROJECT COMPARED TO FINAL WHICH WILL SHOW SHOULD BE I A NOTE DESCRIPTION I WOULD REQUEST THIS BACK WITH A DISCUSSION WITH COMMISSIONER BRODRICK FOR APPROVAL SOMEHOW. THE APPLICANT IS MADE AWARE THAT THEY HAVE COMPLETED MCTAGUE THE VAN WITH 3 YOU ARE ON RECORD. AND ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE COMMISSION? MAKE YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT. I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING. I MAY CALL YOU AT THE END TO RESPOND. THIS IS NOT THE TIME FOR PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION TO COME FORWARD. YOU HAVE THREE NAME AND WHEN YOU COME UP I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST? HELLO.

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MY NAME IS DEBORAH JOHNS. I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. I LIVE AT 909 WEST WEATHERBY RD. EXCUSE ME. GETTING OVER A COLD. I AM HERE REPRESENTING A FRIEND . I WANTED TO SUPPORT THEM IN THE COMMUNITY. HELLO. MY NAME IS CALEB. I AM NOT 545 RIGHT HERE KATE LANE SWORN IN? YES MA'AM, I WAS. END I HAD A FEW THINGS I WANTED TO WITH EVERYTHING THAT HAD. LIKE SHE MENTIONED, THERE IS AN 8 FOOT FENCE THAT IS GOING AGAINST THE TWO-STORY TOWNHOUSES. WHAT IS KEEPING OF TOWNHOUSES FROM LOOKING INTO THE BACKYARD?, THAT THE WATER RETENTION . TO WATER LETTING FROM A PARKING LOT THAT IT GOING TO HAVE SHARE LOCATION WILL HAVE THE AMENITIES PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO FROM YOU? WHAT IS KEEPING PEOPLE FROM CUTTING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY THE BACK WILL HAVE WET PEOPLE FROM CROSSING THE STREET CUTTING THROUGH OUR YARD TO USE THE GYM OR USE THE PLAYHOUSE OR WHATEVER IT IS? THOSE ARE ALL OF THE THINGS THAT I KNOW WE ARE WERE ABOUT IN MIND. I HAVE BEEN THERE AND I DID NOT KNOW THAT MEETING THEY MENTIONED EARLIER. THEY HAD RESULT. 33. I DON'T HAVE EXPERIENCE IN COMING TO COUNCILS LIKE THIS OR BEING A PART OF IT. THIS IS MY FIRST ONE EVER. SORRY. IT IS A LITTLE NERVE-RACKING. . WE WANT TO RAISE OUR KIDS IN A BACKYARD THAT DOES NOT HAVE 95 SCREAMING OVER -- WHAT ARE THEY CALLED? BUFFERING. IS IT GOING TO BUFFER THE SOUND? I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU HAVE HEARD A SEMI HITTING THEIR J BREAK COMING ACROSS THE OVERPASS. IT HAPPENS. IT IS LOUD. THEY KEEP THE SOUND AT BAY AND KEEP US FROM HEARING EVERYTHING GOING ON. AGAIN, QUESTIONING WOULD BE ARE WE GOING TO GET A LOT OF SOUND SINCE WE WILL NOT GOING TO THE OFFICE I DON'T KNOW ANYONE ELSE THAT WE MIME SURE NEIGHBORS MINDSET AS WELL.

SORRY. BUT IF YOU WANTED TO HIT THE BALL. I THINK THAT IS

IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SORT.

CALLED. IN THE LOWER LEFT CORNER. MY HOUSE AND MY PROPERTY UP TO WHERE THEY. YOU TO CALL THAT A SO. I DON'T LIKE IT. I DID IT THE OLD-FASHIONED WAY. I WANTED THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME. I WENT OUT AND BOUGHT ONE WITH MY ANGRY EVERYTHING I HAVE NOW. I HAVE A PRIVACY FENCE . I HAVE A FINAL MATERIAL OR WHATEVER YOU WANT PRIVACY FENCE COVER A 20

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FOOT HIGH TOWNHOME? I LOOK TO THE FUTURE WITH CHILDREN MY FAMILY BACKYARD AND YOU THE WAY THAT I PLANNED THIS OUT WHEN I BOUGHT THIS HOUSE IN 2020. THAT DREAM KIND OF GOES AWAY. I HAVE JUDGMENT OF A 20 FOOT . IS ALWAYS A WORRY. I AM WORRIED ABOUT THE DRAINAGE AND THE ANIMALS AND THE LAND BEHIND ME AND WATER FROM MY NEIGHBORS WITH PRIVACY AND SECURITY.

THERE IS A LOT OF SHOULD HAVE, COULD HAVE, WOULD HAVE. THIS SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED I AM A STRAIGHT UP FAX GUY. I LIKE THE FAX. A LOT OF THINGS SHOULD BE ANSWERED BEFORE WE SHOULD CONTINUE THIS. WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO NEXT? WHO IS NEXT? DID YOU GET SWORN IN? OKAY, YOU CAN GET SWORN IN.

>> YES MA'AM. >> BECAUSE WERE TO AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH ?

>> IF I DO. >> MY NAME IS KRISTA STONE. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THE BUILDERS. I AM CONSIDERED A LITTLE BIT OF AN ENVIRONMENTALIST AS WELL AS A CONSERVATIONIST. I HAVE HAD SOME PHONE CALLS IN REGARDS TO THIS PROJECT AND SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THE COMMUNITY. ONE OF THE THINGS IS JUST THAT THIS GENTLEMAN HAD DISCUSSED IN REGARDS TO THAT 20 FOOT, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY WE COULD THINK ABOUT NOT HAVING THE TWO-STORY OUT OF THIS? THE OTHER POSSIBILITY IS AS SOMEONE WHO CARES ABOUT OUR ENVIRONMENT AND WET, IS THERE A REASON WHY THE TRASH COMPACTOR IS LOCATED NEXT TO A WETLAND? I WOULD LOVE TO FIND THE DETAILS ON THAT. I THINK WE IN THE COUNTY, AS WELL AS ST. LUCIE COUNTY, FT. PIERCE AND SURROUNDING COUNTIES, WE VALUE OUR LAND. NOT ONLY DO WE VALUE OUR LAND, BUT WHAT IS IN IT. I THINK THAT IS REALLY OF ORDER THAT THE DEVELOPERS COME IN HERE MAKING A NOTATION WHEN I HEAR THIS DEVELOPERS BECAUSE THEY HAD A MEETING IN 2021 AND WE ARE NOT PRESENTLY IN 2024 AND WE HAVE CONSTITUENTS THAT DO NOT HAVE FACTUAL INFORMATION, IT DOES LEAD ME TO SOME ALARMING THOUGHTS. I WOULD LIKE TO PUT THAT ON RECORD EXPRESS THAT.

THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? ANYONE ELSE? IS THERE SOMEONE ELSE?

>> OKAY. JEAN WINTER, REWRITE HOUND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

>> I AM JEAN WINTER TO. I AM ALSO A MEMBER OF THE CITY IMPROVEMENT CLUB . WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THE PROJECT AT KITTERMAN ROAD THAT THE GENTLEMAN REFERENCED AT THE OTHER PROJECT HE IS BUILDING . I DO NOT KNOW THAT THE STATUS IS COMPLETE FOR IT IS NOT WHAT THE CONTENTS OF THAT IS.

I DON'T KNOW THAT HE CAN ACTUALLY COMPARE THAT TO THIS WHEN THAT IS -- THIS IS FURTHER ALONG THAN THAT PROJECT. I AM NOT SURE. AS A RESIDENT OF WHITE CITY, WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT AS WELL. MY QUESTION IS FOR THE DEVELOPER, AND IF HE IS GOING TO POSSIBLY HAVE ANOTHER MEETING WITH RESIDENTS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT BEFORE IT GOES FORWARD TO GET THERE IS POSSIBLE CHANGES? THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY, WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IF POSSIBLE. JUST SOMETHING HE MAY WANT TO THINK ABOUT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. THE APPLICANT, IF YOU COULD COME BACK UP, PLEASE. I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO ALL OF THIS THAT WAS SAID AND MAYBE WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO THAT?

>> SPELL YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AGAIN.

>> CARLOS RIVERA. WITH REGARD TO THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS AND TOWNHOMES , THEY ARE -- THEY ARE COMPARABLE TO ALMOST ANY SINGLE-FAMILY TWO-STORY CONSTRUCTION YOU ARE GOING TO FIND OUT THERE. YOU HAVE 9 FOOT BEARING HEIGHT FOR THE

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FORTRESSES. TO PUT FLOOR STRUCTURE AND ANOTHER 9 FOOT FOR SECOND-STORY WALLS. THAT GIVE YOU 20 FEET TO THE TOP OF THE WALL. WITH ANOTHER 5-6 FEET. IN TERMS OF SCALE, THERE IS -- IT IS COMPARABLE TO SINGLE-STORY OR SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. AN 8 FOOT PRIVACY FENCE IS TALLER THAN THE STANDARD PRIVACY FENCE. WE CANNOT FEASIBLY BUILD ANYTHING THAT IS GOING TO COMPLETELY BLOCK LINE OF SIGHT. IN TERM OF VISIBILITY FROM THE UNIT, THE PRIMARY WINDOWS ARE ACTUALLY LOCATED FORWARD AND BACK OF THE NARROW SITE WHICH FACE PRIOR GATE LENGTH. THEY ARE NOT IN ANY OF THE PRIMARY OR SECONDARY LIVING SPACES LIKE BATHROOMS OR THINGS LIKE THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE -- YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE WHEN YOU NEED FROM EACH BUILDING THAT HAS BOARDED THAT YOU AS OPPOSED TO SIX UNITS PER BUILDING WHICH YOU ARE LOOKING

AT OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS. >> HOW MANY UNITS ARE TWO-STORY? I THINK THAT QUESTION WAS ASKED.'S '66. '66 TWO BEDROOM TWO STORY UNITS.

>> WITH REGARDS TO -- WITH REGARDS TO THE SITE LIGHTING, WE DID PROVIDE A PHOTOMETRIC PLAN WHICH SHOWS THERE IS NO LIGHT POLLUTION. WE ARE USING DARK SKY FIXTURES. THAT SHOULD BE NO CONCERN . WHEN PEOPLE THINK OF SITE LIGHTING THEY ARE THINKING OF HOURS ARE AT ABOUT 12. ALL THE LIGHT IS POINTED STRAIGHT DOWN SO YOU DON'T HAVE LIGHT LOSS VERTICALLY.

WITH REGARD TO DRAINAGE WE ARE DESIGNING IT TO COLLECT OUTFALL INTO THE RETENTION POND AND EVENTUALLY OUTFALL INTO THE ST. LUCIE CANAL. WE HAVE DONE A STRONG JOB ADDRESSING STORMWATER ASPECT. AS FOR THE ANIMALS WE DID PERFORM AN ECOLOGICAL IMPACT REPORT. THERE WERE SOME TORTOISE BURROWS FOUND ON SITE. NONE WERE FOUND TO BE OCCUPIED BUT WE WILL PROVIDE ALL NECESSARY TORTOISE AND WILDLIFE SURVEYS PRIOR TO THE START OF CONSTRUCTION NO MORE THAN TWO DAYS BEFORE THE START OF CONSTRUCTION TO IDENTIFY AND RELOCATE ANY POTENTIAL SPECIES. AS FAR AS THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE TO THE WETLAND, IT IS WELL OUTSIDE OF THE WETLAND BUFFER AREA. IT IS NOT JUST AN ENCLOSURE. IT IS AN 8 FOOT MASONRY WALL ALL THE WAY AROUND. IT WILL HAVE AN ACCESSIBLE RAMP . IT IS GOING TO HAVE GATES. IT IS VERY MUCH CONTAINED. YOU DON'T HAVE TO PICTURE OVERFLOWING DUMPSTERS.

ON TOP OF THAT, WE MAINTAIN OUR PROPERTY. OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENS WE HAVE STAFF ON-SITE THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF

IT. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. COULD YOU GO TO THE TREE-LINED SITES? OKAY. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR.

STARTING AT THE BOTTOM CORNER TO THE RIGHT THERE IS SOME TREE-LINED AREAS GOING WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER NORTH. YOU ARE TELLING ME WHAT WE DISCUSSED HIS TRACK SENTENCING. THAT AREA AND YOU GO TO THAT PLACE INTERNAL RIGHTS, COME ALONG ALL OF THAT WILL BE TRACK FENCING SO PEOPLE CANNOT MOVE FROM THAT PROPERTY YOU ARE BUILDING FOR THE OTHER PROPERTY TO MOVE BACK AND FORTH, IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING? ON THE FAR SOUTH WE WILL HAVE FENCING SO THEY CANNOT CROSS OVER ONTO WESTSIDE CHURCH. OKAY THAT WILL BE LINED WITH AN 8 FOOT FENCE?

>> YES. >> WHAT I SEE HERE IN THIS PICTURE , YOUR LANDSCAPE PLAN I SEE SOME TREE-LINED AREAS I UNDERSTAND IT IS A 40 FOOT BUFFER WITH NATURAL MIND TREES ETC. THESE LARGER TREES THAT LOOK TO BE LARGE, TALLER IN STATURE ARE THOSE A PART OF YOUR LANDSCAPE PACKAGE?

>> SOME OF THOSE ARE CURRENTLY ALREADY THERE BUT THIS IS AN ARTIST RENDITION . IT IS NOT TREE FOR TREE EXACTLY.

>> THEY WILL ADD MORE TREES? THE HEIGHT WOULD BE WHAT? WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THAT ?

>> THEY ARE SHOWING SOME TO BE 10-18 INCHES OF PALMETTOS. OF

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PALMETTOS. I SHOW HEIGHT FOR I AND. PRIVATE REVIEW THANK YOU.

>> THERE WAS A QUESTION HERE YOUR PROPERTY. AND PLAN . LEASING OFFICE, THE BULK OF THE AMENITIES WILL BE LOCATED ON THE EAST PROPERTY AND THEIR DOG PARK , RIGHT? -- IT IS HARD TO CROSS THAT ROUTE ANYWAY.

COMMISSIONER? I HEARD YOU HAD A LITTLE TESTIMONY ABOUT THE TWO-STORY IN THE WALL. YOU BECAUSE WE GAVE US A PROFILE STRUCTURE 20 FOOT TOPPLED WALL WITH ROOF TRUSSES ON THAT.

THERE IS A GOOD BE RIGHT THERE. COMMISSIONER, THERE IS ALSO THAT LONG WHILE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. HURT HIS BACK TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION. THE LOCATION IS A LITTLE BIT OF A

CONCERNING ASPECT. >>> A TO

>>> THAT IS WHERE. >>> THAT IS IN THE IMPACT

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REPORT. YOU ARE DOING MITIGATION AND DOING YOUR BEST FROM THE WETLAND. YOU ARE TAKING CARE OF STORM WATER. I AM CHALLENGED WITH THE IDEA OF THE INTENSITY OF TESTIMONY WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE EXISTING NEIGHBORS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD .

YOU HAVE YOUR TWO STORY UNITS ADJACENT. I KNOW YOU TESTIFIED TO THE ELEVATIONS OF THE UNIT THEMSELVES . YOU ALSO HEARD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT DUMPSTER LOCATIONS. YOU HAVE YOUR MOST INTENSE USES TO THE SOUTH WITH. HOWEVER YOUR AMENITIES WERE A PLAY YARD OR A SWIMMING POOL AND THEN A DUMPSTER AMENITY AT THE VERY NORTHERN . IS THERE ANY OTHER CONSIDERATIONS, INCLUDING BUFFERING AND CO-LOCATION OR RELOCATION OF THOSE AMENITIES? IT SEEMS LIKE THE DENSITY IS IN THE SOUTHWEST. THAT NOT ACCURATE? THE TWO-STORY UNITS ARE IN THE

SOUTHWEST. >> YES SIR. THE TWO-STORY UNITS ARE ISOLATED TO THE SOUTHWEST. OKAY. THE TWO-STORY UNITS. A A.

THERE IS A REMAINING 140 UNIT ELSEWHERE, RIGHT?

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> WITH REGARDS TO THE AMENITIES, THE OPEN AMENITIES IS A DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH OF THE ROAD. THEY ARE IN PROXIMITY TO LARGER UNITS. THE ONLY THING WE HAVE ON THE OPPOSITE IS THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE. WE TRIED TO PUT THAT CENTRALLY LOCATED ON THE SITE .

CONVERSATION, IN PUBLIC OR THE PARTAKING COMMUNICATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD , THIS ORIGINALLY GOING TO BE AN ASSISTANT LIVING OR A RETIREMENT DIAL VILLAGE SINGLE-STORY. I KNOW THAT FROM TESTIMONY AND EXPERIENCE. IT HAS MORPHED OVER THE YEARS. MAYBE IT DID GO COMMERCIAL AND IT HAS COME BACK TO THIS MULTIFAMILY . HAVE ALWAYS LIVED HERE A TRACT OF LAND . HOW DO WE BALANCE THE INTENSITY. THAT IS THE CRUX OF THE CONVERSATION. HOW DO WE INCREASE THE BUFFERING ZONE SO YOU ARE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH YOUR MISSION, IN ADDITION TO PRESERVING WITH THE RESIDENTS ARE USED TO? IS THERE AN OPTION?

>> MY IMMEDIATE THOUGHTS TO IMPACT MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY AREAS OR GO HIGHER WITH THESE BUILDING . INTEREST OF FULL TRANSPARENCY. I WILL ENDED. OUTSIDE OF THE BUFFER ZONES AND THE TWO-STORY SECTIONS THEY ARE CREATING A CHALLENGE. YOU HAVE HEARD THAT IT IS NOT AN OPTION, WE WILL HAVE TO WORK THROUGH SOME OF THROUGH CONVERSATION OR WE WILL NOT MAKE IT THERE TONIGHT. I DON'T KNOW. I WILL HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION IN THAT SAME BANK. IN YOUR BUFFERING SCENARIO, WE HAVE AN 8 FOOT FENCE. WE HAVE I AM ASSUMING HARDWOOD TREES BEING INSTALLED. I KNOW THERE IS ALSO CONCERNS FROM THE RESIDENTS ABOUT POTENTIAL FLOODING. HAVE YOU CONSIDERED CONSTRUCTING A MINIMAL TO MODERATE SIZE FIRM BEHIND THIS WHICH WOULD GIVE YOU ADDITIONAL HEIGHT TO PRIVACY. IF YOU PUT IN A 4 FOOT FIRM IT GIVES YOU AN INCREASED HEIGHT OF AN 8 FOOT FENCE TO A 12 FOOT FENCE ELIMINATING 45

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THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER TO ALLEVIATE FLOODING? I UNDERSTAND YOUR CALCULATIONS. I GET A. THAT AREA YOU CONSIDER THAT WITH ALL THE NEIGHBORS PROBLEMS TO DECREASE INDIVIDUAL ISSUES THAT ARE LEGITIMATE? YES SIR. WE HAVE DISCUSSED ANY NUMBER OF OPTIONS IN REGARDS TO BERM TO REDIRECT STORMWATER.

THE ULTIMATE SIZE WILL COME DOWN TO THE DRAINAGE CALCULATION THAT YOU INDICATED IT IS NOT SOMETHING WE ARE OPPOSED TO. I AM NOT GETTING AT THE DRAINAGE SOLUTION. I AM ACTUALLY GETTING AT IS PRIVACY AND AESTHETICS ISSUE. THE VERY BENEFIT FROM MY PURSE ACTIVE IS A SECONDARY DRAINAGE PROTECTION FOR SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. IF YOU PUT IN A 5 FOOT BERM NOW YOU HAVE A 13 FOOT PRIVATE BARRIER VERSUS 8 FOOT. 5 FEET WILL MAKE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IF YOU ARE 6 FEET TALL LOOKING AT THE BUILDINGS BEHIND IT. THAT IS JUST A SUGGESTION. I HAVE SEEN THAT UTILIZED IN OTHER LOCATIONS PEOPLE MAYBE THE GUYS CAN CHIME IN ON WITH HER THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL . IT MAY BE A HELP TO ALL PARTIES.

KNOW? IDEA? >> I LEAVE IT WITH THE APPLICANT AND THE DEVELOPER OF NO OBJECTIONS TO THAT SOLUTIONS. WE HAVE HEARD FROM THAT NEIGHBOR . THE STAFF HAVE CONSIDERED THIS UNDER THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS. IT MEETS

THOSE IN THE MOMENT. >> TWO IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR WHAT THE CONCERNS EXPRESSED WERE?

>> FROM WHAT I HAVE HEARD, YES.

>> I WOULD ADVOCATE IF YOU ARE IN AGREEMENT, WE WOULD CREATE A 5 FOOT BERM, 8 FOOT WALL AND THEN WE PROBABLY A MAY HAVE CREATED AS MUCH OF A BARRIER AS WE CAN. I DON'T KNOW WHAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS THINK ABOUT THAT.

>> IT FILLS MORE OF WHAT I AM HEARING THAT WOULD ADDRESS MORE OF THE CONCERNS. FLOODING, WATER MOVEMENT AT CETERA . ALL PRIVACY IN THE DENSENESS OF THE FOLIAGE. THAT WAS MY ORIGINAL QUESTION JUST UNDERSTANDING . UNDERSTAND IT AS A HARD-CORE FENCE PEOPLE CANNOT WALK THROUGH. THAT WAS MY ORIGINAL

CAN. THANK YOU. >> IF YOU ARE IN AGREEMENT, I WOULD INCLUDE THAT IN A MOTION.

>> WE ARE NOT BACK TO THE COMMISSION YET BUT DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SAY? COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, ARE YOU

DONE? ANYONE ELSE DONE? >> THANK YOU. NOW, WE ARE BACK TO THE COMMISSION. DISCUSSION OR A MOTION?

>> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK I WAS GOING TO GO WITH THE SAME TYPE OF SUGGESTION WHEN WE GOT TO THIS PART. WHAT I AM HEARING IS PRIVACY. WHAT I AM HEARING IS CONCERNS OF FLOODING. WHAT I AM HEARING IS MAINTAINING A LIFESTYLE THAT I BOUGHT AND PURCHASED INTO THIS PART OF MY PIECE OF FT. PIERCE. I HAD COME TURNS -- I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOU WERE GOING TO SHARE TWO AMENITIES. HOW THEY WERE GOING TO GET IF THAT IS PART OF YOUR MOTION I CAN DEAL WITH THAT. IF IT IS NOT A PART OF A SOLUTION, I DON'T THINK I CAN BE IN FAVOR OF THIS

DEVELOPMENT. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

>> I FEEL THE SAME WAY. I DO FEEL THE SAME WAY. I THINK IT IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE VERY STRATEGIC AND VERY POINTED AT THE CREATING ADDITIONAL BUFFER OR A LANDSCAPE BERM IN ADDITION TO BARRIER. IT IS GOING TO HAVE THE CARRY ALL INCLUSIVE. I ALSO BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME OF IMPACTS WE ARE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY THAT ARE CHALLENGES. ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECTS OF EVERY COMPONENT , INCLUDING TRAFFIC . IT COULD BE ENVIRONMENTAL WHETHER IT IS VEHICLE NOISE, THOSE ARE ALL ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ON EVERY LEVEL. IS BASED ON THE CONFIGURATION AND THE LAYOUT.

YOU CAN CONFIGURE A PROJECT LIKE THIS IN MULTIPLE WAYS TO ACCOMPLISH A MISSION. THIS IS THE ONE THEY CHOSE. THAT IS OKAY. HERE WE ARE. I DON'T KNOW THAT EVEN THE WITH AN

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ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE AND A BERM IT MITIGATES THOSE OTHER FACTORS FOR ME . THOSE ARE MY CHALLENGES.

>> I HAVE ONE FOLLOW-UP ON THAT THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION AND IT SPEAKS VOLUMES TO ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS IN CONFLICT WITH ONE ANOTHER. YOU CAN BUILD A HOME DEPOT. WALMART, TARGET. YOU CAN HAVE 25 FOOT LIGHT POLES ALL OVER THE PARKING LOT. THE TRAFFIC VOLUME VERSUS COMMERCIAL IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS. YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND WE ARE RUNNING INTO AND WE HAVE RUN INTO INDUSTRIAL APPLICATIONS WHERE WE HAVE PROPER PHASING OF ZONING . WE HAVE HOUR FOR IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO OUR ONE SINGLE FAMILY. THAT MAY BE STATED ZONING. THAT SPEAKS TO THE CORE OF THIS PROBLEM . IN MY OPINION, THE SHIFT FROM COMMERCIAL USES TO RESIDENTIAL. I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE QUESTIONS REGARDING RESIDENTIAL. THEY COULD HAVE GONE GARDEN STYLE. THESE COULD BE 40 FOOT BUILDINGS. I GET IT. EVERYONE WANTS TO KEEP THE GREEN AREA IN A NATURAL ENVIRONMENT. THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. IT IS OUR JOB TO GATE THE IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. THE USE YOU COULD HAVE IN A COMMERCIAL APPLICATION WOULD BE HORRIFIC, POTENTIALLY, TO THE SMALL ENCLAVE OF A BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD. I SAID JUST THIS IS A BETTER SOLUTION TO GARDEN STYLE AND COMMERCIALS. IF WE CAN ELIMINATE PERMANENTLY WITH ANY POTENTIAL PROBLEMS, MITIGATE PROPER BURIAL. -- PROPER BARRIER. THE ALTERNATIVES WOULD BE EGREGIOUSLY BAD, POTENTIALLY.

YOU GET MY POINT. I AM DONE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

>> RIGHT HERE A MOTION? >> I WILL ATTEMPT TO FORMULATE A MOTION. WAS THERE A CONDITION? YOU MAKE A BUNCH OF

CONDITIONS. >> YOU ARE PROBABLY GOING TO

ADD ONE WILL . >> DO I HAVE TO READ ALL OF THE

CONDITIONS? >> NO.

>> I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH RECOMMEND NATIONS AND INCLUDE A FIFTH RECOMMENDATION THAT A 5 FOOT BERM BE CONSTRUCTED AROUND THE PERIMETER . DURING THE TO

IDENTIFY THE SITES? >> YES, PLEASE. I THINK

ADJACENT TO BRIAR GATE. >> IS THAT THE FORMAL NAME?

>> ADJACENT TO BRIAR GATE. A 5 FOOT BERM WITH TRUCKS, FENCING AND LANDSCAPING AS DEPICTED ON THE ORIGINAL LANDSCAPE PLAN

WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT. >> YES.

>> I SECOND THE MOTION. >> EVERYBODY CLEAR ON WHAT WE

ARE VOTING ON? >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK?

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER GAMES?

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON?

>> YES MA'AM. >> -- NO MA'AM. COMMISSIONER

[c. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Review and Approval of an application for a Site Plan (Development and Design Review) with a Conditional Use for an Innovative Residential Development by property owner Farrell Communities Fort Pierce Owner LLC, and representative, Michael Sanchez of Farrell Communities, to construct a 488-unit multi-family innovative residential development with a Clubhouse, Pool, Garages, Recreational Courts, and associated site improvements at or near 2535 South Kings Highway in Fort Pierce, Florida, more specifically located at Parcel Control Number: 2323-501-0002-000-0.]

JAY JOHNSON. >> IS.

>> NOW, WE HAVE A JUDICIAL HEARING FOR THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF AN APPLICATION FOR A SITE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN REVIEW WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT BY PROPERTY OWNER COMMUNITIES AND REPRESENTATIVE SANCHEZ TO CONSTRUCT A 488 UNIT MULTIFAMILY INNOVATIVE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH THE OUTCOME OF MULTIPLE RECREATIONAL COURTS AND ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS AT OR NEAR 20 RECREATIONAL COURTS AND ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS AT OR NEAR 2530 SOUTH RECREATIONAL COURTS AND ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS AT OR NEAR 2530 SOUTH HWY.

>> OKAY. HAVE WE MET THE ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS?

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>> WE HAVE MET THE ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS ITEM.

>> WITH YOU ASK ABOUT EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS?

>> YES. COMMISSIONER BRODERICK?

>> NO. >> GAINS?

>> NO. >> SEE JOHNSON?

>> NUMBER. DJ JOHNSON? NUMBER. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SWEAR IN ANY

WITNESSES? >> ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

>> YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

>> I DO. >> PROCEED. BEFORE YOU, WE HAVE A SITE PLAN, DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN REVIEW APPLICATION WITH CONDITIONAL USE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2535 SOUTH KINGS HWY. OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2535 SOUTH KINGS HWY. THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THIS PROJECT IS MICHAEL SANCHEZ OF FEDERAL COMMUNITIES. PROPERTY OWNER FT.

PIERCE OWNER LLC OF THE SUBJECT PARCEL I.D IS 23 OWNER LLC OF THE SUBJECT PARCEL I.D IS 2323 E- 501 DUST 0002 IS

000. >> THE SUBJECT PARCEL HAS A TOTAL OF APPROXIMATELY 40.77 ACRES. IT IS SURROUNDED BY VACANT LAND TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND RESIDENTIAL USES IN VACANT LAND TO THE WEST. DEVELOPMENT WILL INCLUDE 4488 APARTMENT UNITS. THE NEW CLUBHOUSE POOL, GARAGES, RECREATIONAL COURTS, LANDSCAPING , LIGHTING AND PARKING FOR RESIDENTS AND EMPLOYEES. TOTAL PARKING 919 STANDARD SPACES, +32 919 STANDARD SPACES, +3288 SPACES, +70 BICYCLE SPACES. THEY REQUESTING APPROVAL TO BE CONSIDERED INNOVATIVE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PER CITY CODE SECTION 125 DASH 2434 APPROVAL TO BE CONSIDERED INNOVATIVE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PER CITY CODE SECTION 125 DASH 24342 ADDITIONAL DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE FOR A DENSITY TOTAL OF 12 UNITS PER ACRE. THE SUBJECT SITE IS AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF PRE-READ RESEARCH ROAD AND S. KINGS HWY. THE SITE AREA IS PLUS OR -40.77 ACRES. THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WITH A ZONING OF MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. BEFORE YOU, WE HAVE THE CRITERIA FOR INNOVATIVE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS. IT IS BROKEN INTO THREE SUBJECTS, LANDSCAPES, SIGHTINGS AND DESIGN. WE WILL GO OVER LANDSCAPING. I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED THREE MAJOR INSTANCES WHERE THEY DO THE CRITERIA . THE PURPOSE PACK. 40% (NOT INCLUDING LINKS 40% OPEN SPACE IS REQUIRED FOR INNOVATIVE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS. THE PROJECT REQUIRES 288 INTERIOR TREES .

PROPER, THEY ARE PROVIDING 469 INTERIOR TREES. ALL 6.8 PERCENTAGEWISE. I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED FOR AREAS. THERE ARE FOUR RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS. WE HAVE CLUSTER AROUND A LARGE ONLY . IT HAS BEEN DENSELY LANDSCAPED TO CREATE AN INVITING AND SHADED SEATING AREA CARE FOR THE TENANTS. A 10 FOOT WIDE MULTIUSE PATH PROVIDED AROUND CENTRAL LAKE AND CENTRAL PARK. ON THE SIDES AND REAR HAVE BEEN INCREASED ALONG THE REQUIREMENTS FOR DESIGN. THE BUILDINGS ARE DESIGNED IN A CONTEMPORARY STYLE . THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT DESIGN PROVIDE HORIZONTAL ARTICULATION CREATING A MORE INTERESTING FAÇADE. IT UTILIZES FEATURES AND SERIALS INCLUDING CANTILEVER BUILDINGS MIDDLE SHADES, HORIZONTAL PANELS AND STUCCO BROKEN INTO DIFFERENT WALL PANELS . THE CONTEMPORARY PALLET IS VARIED BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPES AND BRINGS A GOOD CONTRAST FOR INTEREST. FOR CONDITIONAL USES PER CITY CODE SECTION 125 DASH 237, THE PROCEDURE FOR THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL IS APPLICATION FOR CONDITIONAL USE WITH APPLICATION FOR SITE PLAN REVIEW WHEN NOT EXEMPT IN

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ACCORDANCE WITH REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION 125 DASH 236 SHALL BE REVIEWED AS A UNIT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF 125 DASH 313. PERMITTING CONDITION TO USE OR MODIFICATION OF THE EXISTING THEY MAY IMPOSE IN ADDITION TO THE STANDARDS AND REQUIREMENTS SPECIFIED IN THIS CHAPTER ANY CONDITION WHICH IT FINDS TO BE NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OF THE CITY. WE HAVE THE SITE PLAN. I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED SOME AMENITIES THAT PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL INCLUDE SUCH AS A SAND VOLLEYBALL COURT, BEST BUY COURT, PICKLE BALL CORT, TENNIS COURTS, DOG PARK , MULTIUSE PATH AS WELL AS CENTRAL LAKE AND CENTRAL PARK. FOR YOU, WE HAVE THE LANDSCAPING PLAN WITH THE INCREASED TREES AND SHRUBS, AS WELL AS GROUNDCOVERS . I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MENTION THAT DURING THE PLANNING BOARD, WHICH HAPPENED EARLIER LAST YEAR , THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BUFFER TO THE RESIDENCES TO THE WEST. THE APPLICANT HAS INCREASED THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER. REQUIREMENT IS 10 FEET. AS HE COULD SEE ALONG THE WEST , THE WEST, SOUTHEAST, SOUTH THE APPLICANT HAS INCREASED THAT TO 20 FEET ALONG THE SOUTHEAST. LOOK WITHOUT THE STUDENTS 15, CENTRAL EAST IS 20, EAST-NORTHEAST 17 AND ALONG THE NORTH IS 15. THE INCREASED THE BUFFERS SURROUNDING THE COMPLETE PROJECT. THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL RENDERING OF WHAT THE ARCHITECTURE LOOK LIKE FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT . THIS IS A RENDERING TO ORIGINAL TWO-STORY CLUBHOUSE. THE APPLICANT HAS SINCE REDUCED THE TO A ONE STORY WHICH I WILL SHOW YOU NEXT . THIS IS THE AMENDED ONE STORY CLUBHOUSE. PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THEM TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN ON DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND SITE REVIEW. THE MEETING WITH APRIL 10, 2023. I KNOW YOU'RE PROBABLY ASKING WHY ARE WE JUST SINGING THIS. THE APPLICANT REQUESTED TO POSTPONE THE CITY AGENDA DATE FOR FURTHER MARKET ANALYSIS. THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH AN ADDITIONAL FIFTH CONDITION TO DEMONSTRATE TO PERFORM TO CITY CODES WHICH THEY HAVE. A COMPLETION CERTIFICATION BY A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND COST ESTIMATE PURSUANT TO CITY CODE SHALL BE REQUIRED BEFORE THE FINAL CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS REQUIRED. PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF ANY PERMITS, THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE A TREE MEDICATION SURVEY QUARTERLY WITH THE ARBORISTS WITH THE REQUIRED MITIGATION OF CITY REGULATED TREES PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED AS A RESULT OF THE DEVELOPMENT OR CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY. HUMAN SINUS PROPOSED, PLEASE CONSIDER INSTALLING A LANDSCAPED AREA AROUND THE PROPOSED MONUMENT BASED SIGN WHICH EXTENDS MINIMUM 3 FEET IN OUR DIRECTION. SUCH LANDSCAPED AREA SHOULD BE COVERED BY GROUNDCOVER, SHRUBS, HEDGES AND NO ENTITLEMENT UNITS ASSIGNED TO THE FUTURE BUILDINGS AS A PART OF DISAPPROVAL, BUT ALLOW CITY STOPPED APPROVE OR DENY ANY APPLICATIONS TO TRANSFER UNITS BETWEEN BUILDINGS OCCLUDING POTENTIAL FUTURE BUILDINGS AND OR TO FACE THE PROJECT SO LONG AS THE DESIGN INTENT APPROVED BY COMMISSION IS MAINTAINED AND OVERALL DENSITY DOES NOT EXCEED 488 UNITS. THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL NOTING THE FIVES CONDITIONS WHICH WERE ALSO RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING BOARD. ALTERNATIVE RECOMMENDATIONS OR WITH MODIFIED APPROVAL OR RECOMMEND

DISAPPROVAL. THANK YOU. >> QUESTIONS TO STAFF?

>> I WILL KICK IT OFF. TO MAKE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE MY BEARINGS STRAIGHT. SAYS KINGS HWY.,

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CENTER ROAD INTERSECTION. AM I CORRECT? OKAY. VERY GOOD.

RESIDENTS WILL ENTER OFF OF WHICH ROAD? ARE THEY ABLE TO

ENTER BOTH? >> BOTH. RESEARCH AND KINGS HIGHWAY. WHAT I SAW -- IF YOU CAN GO TO THE SITE PLAN LAYOUT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE. WE ARE FACING EAST ?

>> NONE OF THE BUILDINGS REALLY FACE KINGS HIGHWAY . JUST THE CLUBHOUSE UPFRONT, AM I READING CORRECTLY?

>> CORRECT. >> I APPRECIATE THE EXTRA AMENITIES. WHEN I WAS DIGGING INTO THE APPLICATION TO MAKE SURE MOST OF WHAT YOU POINTED OUT HERE THE ADDITIONAL AMENITIES OUTSIDE OF LIVING SPACE ARE COORDINATED AND PROPOSED AROUND THE CLUBHOUSE IN THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTIES . NOTHING REALLY TO THE WESTERN, IS THAT ACCURATE?

>> CORRECT. >> HOW ABOUT SOLID WASTE SERVICES? THOSE ARE LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE PARCEL?

>> CORRECT. >> ARE THERE GATED INJURIES? HOW DOES THAT OPERATE? -- ARE THERE GATED INJURIES? HOW DOES

THAT OPERATE? >> IT HAS SITE LIGHTING IS

GENERALLY REQUIRED BY CODE? >> CORRECT. THEY NEED 1 FOOT CANDLE AVERAGE. STORM WATER PONDS FACE A ROAD RIGHT AWAY? TYPICALLY -- MANY YEARS AGO WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT SO OFTEN IN THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE ALYSIA MADE AN AMENITY . TODAY THAT

ANY FUTURE? >> YES.

>> YES. >> I AM GOING TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING AND OF THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD. PLEASE STATE YOUR

NAME FIRST . >> MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION MY NAME IS MICHAEL SANCHEZ. I HAVE WITH FERRELL COMPANIES. I HAVE

BEEN SWORN IN. >> WALK OF. DO YOU HAVE ANY

QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I DO NOT. >> OKAY. YOU MAY PROCEED.

>> THANK YOU. >> I AM A CERTIFIED LAND PLANNER. I HANDLE ALL ENTITLEMENTS FOR FERRELL COMPANY. I HAVE BEEN BEFORE YOU WANT ANOTHER PROJECT AS A CONSULTANT HAVING MY OWN BUSINESS. IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE WITH YOU. I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL THE HARD WORK. YOU ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE THEM. I WANT TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OURSELVES AND TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT AND POTENTIALLY ADDRESS QUESTIONS THAT WERE ADDRESSED AS PART OF THE EARLY QUESTIONS AND MAYBE SOME APPOINTED TO THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT MAY APPLY . I WILL BE RELATIVELY BRIEF. TO SUMMARIZE WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR LANE USE OR REZONING. THIS IS A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW FOR INNOVATIVE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN REVIEW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FERRELL COMPANIES, IT STARTED AS FERRELL BUILDING COMPANY NEARLY 3 DECADES AGO IN THE HAMPTONS. MR. FERRELL STARTED BUILDING LUXURY HOMES FOR THE WELL-HEELED OF NEW YORK AND FERRELL IS THE PREMIER BUILDING COMPANY. I MET THEM ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO. THEY STARTED BRANCHING OUT TO OTHER ASSET CLASSES DOING SELF STORAGE, MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL. I'M AT THE MONEY PROJECT TRADITION. FAST FORWARD TO TODAY . WE HAVE 10-12 PROJECTS OF VARIOUS STAGES AND VARIOUS TYPES . VERY HIGH-END SINGLE FAMILY. SOME STORAGE, MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL. OUR FLORIDA OFFICES SOUTH . I WANT TO POINT OUT THE LOCATION AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. TO ANSWER THE COMMISSION'S QUESTION, WE HAVE FRONTAGE -- I BELIEVE THEY HAVE STARTED DEVELOPMENT. I WAS OUT THERE TODAY . I THINK IT IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TYPE PROJECT. THIS

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PROPERTY IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL. THERE IS NOTHING HAPPENING ON IT. I DON'T KNOW MUCH ELSE ABOUT IT. BACK HERE YOU HAVE SOME LUCRATIVE CITY -- LOWER DENSITY OF THE COUNTY. I WILL SHOW YOU SOME LARGER SCALE SITE PLAN . THESE WILL BE FOUR STORIES. THIS PROJECT IS OUR INTENTION WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING . THE PARTICLE SOLD IT TO US EXPLAINED EVERYTHING GOING IN TERMS OF SQUARE FEET OF INDUSTRIAL OPPORTUNITY. WE TALKED, LET US DESIGN SOME . THE FERRELL BRAND IS HIGH AND.

IT IS LUXURY. ENEMA BEING LUXURY BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE , WE DO A QUALITY PRODUCT. THE DENSITY IS UNDER 12 UNITS PER ACRE ALLOWS FOR 10 UNITS PER ACRE. ARE ASKING FOR ANOTHER 2 AS A PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS AN EXISTING ZONING . WE COULD HAVE COME IN HERE AND THREE-STORY GARDEN STYLE APARTMENTS WITH NO ELEVATORS AND VERY LITTLE AMENITIES AND WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN 400 UNITS. WE ARE ASKING FOR 488 DOING A TON OF AMENITIES AS WE HAVE DONE WITH OUR OTHER PROJECTS. THAT IS WHAT WE DO SO WE ARE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL 88 UNITS TO OFFSET SOME OF THE COST. THESE WILL BE FOUR STORIES. THEY WILL ALL HAVE ELEVATORS. THIS IS A SITE PLAN SUPERIMPOSED ON THE REAL BABY TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSIONER'S QUESTION SO YOU CAN SEE THE SCALE OF THE BUILDINGS AT THE LOCATIONS OF THE BUILDINGS WITH RESPECT TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES. WE DID LOCATE THE AMENITIES TOWARD THE FRONT. THERE WERE A COUPLE OF PROCESSES ON. I WILL EXPLAIN THAT THE LATER SIDE. THESE NEXT FEW SLIDES WILL BE THE LARGER SCALE VERSIONS AND BLOWUPS OF THE DIFFERENT AREAS.

ONE OF THE TWO ENTRANCES -- THERE WAS ONE OFF KINGS HIGHWAY AND THE OTHER IS OFF OF PREWRITTEN RESEARCH. IS IS A GATED ENTRANCE. WE WORK CLOSELY WITH MR. SANDERS AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO PROVIDE FOR THE BUS TURNAROUND . WE ARE PROPOSING A TRANSIT STOP, WHICH I WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OR A POTENTIAL LOCATION FOR A TRANSIT STOP AS WELL AS A SCHOOL BUS SHELTER THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE GATE SO THE BUS DOES NOT HAVE TO COMMIT. AMENITIES ALONG THE FRONT TYPICALLY YOU SEE THAT WHAT YOU ARE GOING INTO MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS WHERE YOU DRIVE UP AND YOU ARE NOT THE CLUBHOUSE WERE TYPICALLY THE LEASING OFFICE IS. WITHOUT THIS IS WHERE NOISE WOULD BE GENERATED. WE TRY TO KEEP IT AWAY FROM ANY OF THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES TO THE WEST . IT MAKES SENSE, IN OUR OPINION, TO CLUSTER ALL OF THE DIFFERENT AMENITIES TO THE CLUBHOUSE. YOU THE CLUBHOUSE, THE POOL, TENNIS COURTS, PICKLE BALL COURTS, SAND VOLLEYBALL. YOU HAVE A DOG PARK AND A LOT OVER HERE. IN TERMS OF THE LAKES BEING IN THE FRONT, WE MADE THEM LAKES, NOT TRY RETENTION . WE ARE PUTTING FOUNTAINS. WE FEEL THAT IS A NICE AMENITY. THIS SITE IS 5 ACRES AND CHAIN OF ACRES IN LAKES. IT IS A LOT OF LAKES. WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A NICE AMENITY. HIGHWAY IS A BUSY ROAD. WE TRY TO PROVIDE SOME DISTANCE BETWEEN RESIDENT AND THE ROADS. THIS IS THE CENTER PART OF THE PLAN. YOU CAN SEE 10 FOOTBALL TEAM MOTOROLA PATH ABOVE THE LARGELY . BACK AND ASKED TO THE CENTRAL PARK SO PEOPLE CAN USE THAT. THAT IS 10 FOOT WIDE SO PEOPLE CAN USE THAT FOR BIKING AND WALKING.

YOU SEE THE BUILDING IS FRONT TO LOG THESE BUILDINGS AND ALONG THE LAKE. THE SITE IS A BIT OF A CHALLENGE FROM A DESIGN PERSPECTIVE. IT IS NOT A PERFECT SQUARE. IT CREATES A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE. WE THINK WE MADE IT WORK PRETTY WELL. THIS IS CENTRAL PARK . THIS IS ABOUT OVER HALF AN ACRE. IT IS BIGGER THAN A FOOTBALL FIELD. THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS TO HAVE A NICE OPEN GREEN WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO, SIT, IN THE FOOTBALL. THERE IS A PATH AROUND THE PARK AND THEN SHADE TREES WITH BENCHES SO PEOPLE CAN SIT. YOU CAN SEE THE STRUCTURES HERE. THESE ARE CARPORTS OR GARAGES, THE LITTLE YELLOW STRUCTURES. THIS IS THE FOURTH PART OF THE PROJECT .

ORIGINALLY WE HAD THESE THREE BUILDINGS ON THE SOUTH.

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SWITCHING TO THE OTHER SIDE. IT DID A COUPLE OF THINGS. IT ALLOWED US TO LEARN OF THE ENTRANCE WITH A FUTURE BERKELEY THAT THE COUNTY REQUIRED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD.

THIS IS A GATED ENTRANCE AND WE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS WITH RESPECT TO DISTRICT. THIS IS A RESIDENTS ONLY . THERE IS NOT A GATE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PASS TO GET . I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THE COUNTY IS REQUIRED WE WOULD PROVIDE A SIDEWALK CONNECTION FROM HERE UP TO KINGS HIGHWAY. THAT IS A LITTLE BIT FLUID, OR AT LEAST IT WAS LAST YEAR. THERE IS A NOTE ON THE SITE PLAN THAT REQUIRES US TO COURT A DATE WITH THE COUNTY AS A PART OF THE PERMITTING OWN DRIVEWAY. AS FAR AS THE ARCHITECTURE GOES, WE HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPES. THEY ALL LOOK SIMILAR IN TERMS -- WE TRY TO DO A LOT OF HORIZONTAL ARTICULATING ON THE GROUND. WE HAVE NO GARAGES. IT INCLUDES CANTILEVER BALCONIES. WE HAVE MINERAL EYEBROW SHADES HE COULD SEE THE CANOPY FEATURES. WE HAVE SOME HORIZONTAL PANELS AT THAT WE HAVE STUCCO WITH SQUIRREL LINES WE HAVE A SIMILAR PROJECT THIS STORY. IT IS A VERY NICE LOOKING BUILDING IN OUR . A RENDERING MR. GILMORE SHOWED EARLIER. THAN ESCAPING I WILL NOT REPEAT THIS BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS WE HAVE 53% OF THAT IS A LOT OF LANDSCAPING

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AND >>> ALL THE CLUBHOUSE IN THE AMENITIES. THAT WHEN FOR BUILDINGS. IT WOULD INCLUDE DISABILITY, THIS BUILDING AT THE CENTRAL PARK AND WHETHER STARTED TO HERE. THE IDEA IS WE

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DO NOT WANT CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC DRIVING THROUGH PARKING LOTS WHERE THERE IS PEOPLE . THE IDEA IS TO BACK UP THE PROJECT AND UTILIZE THE . WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS. THERE WOULD BE ACCESS . IT CASE FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES IN. WE WOULD DO THE MIDDLE AND THE RIGHT SIDE OF HIS PLAN., POTENTIAL THE BOTTOM AND THE LAST THREE FOR LAST. I WAS GOING WITH THAT QUESTION. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE WERE AMENITY FACTOR INTO PLAY. THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT THOSE ARE AMENITIES FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THOSE ARE BROUGHT INTO PLAY RIGHT UP FRONT. I KNOW YOU HAVE TO DO STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS AND UTILITY IMPROVEMENTS NO MATTER WHAT. YOU HAVE TO DO ALL OF THAT UNDERGROUND STUFF NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE WERE THINKING STRATEGICALLY ON IMPACTS TO THE FOLKS THAT MOVE INTO THE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH I KNOW YOU WOULD WANT TO. THEY ARE YOUR CUSTOMERS. THE OTHER COMPONENT, YOU ARE RIGHT. THE PECTORAL WE HAVE HERE WHERE YOUR NAME IS LOCATED, THAT IS THE COMMERCIAL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL UNDER CONSTRUCTION . WE AT THE COMMISSION HAVE HAD SOME CHALLENGES OVER THE YEARS YOU FEEL WITH THE LAYOUT OF THE BUILDINGS, SPECIFICALLY NORTHEAST -- NORTH IS LEFT ON THIS PAGE, THE NORTHEAST AREA , DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE ENOUGH BUFFER? ALL YOU'RE GOING TO GET SOME COMPLAINTS BUT WE WILL GET MORE COMPLEX THAN YOU DO, IF THERE ARE COMPLAINTS. JUST TO TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION OF THE LAYOUT OF WHAT YOU HAVE GOING HERE.

>> COMMISSIONER, THIS LAKE -- UNFORTUNATELY, I DO NOT HAVE A SITE PLAN OF WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE. I BELIEVE THIS LAKE IS

GOING TO STAY? >> YES.

>> WE HAVE A FAIR QUESTION. THIS BUILDING HERE IS ONE THAT MAY BE CLOSE . THE OTHER OPTION WAS TO PUT IT ON THIS SIDE AND WHO KNOWS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN HERE. WE HAVE THIS RESIDENT OVER HERE IN THE SITE DID NOT LINE UP. WE FEEL WE DID

THE BEST WE COULD. >> ANOTHER GAME CHANGER. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS TAUGHT ABOUT AND CONSIDER THEM PUT INTO PLAY DURING YOUR CONFIGURATION. HE DID THAT, IS

THAT CORRECT? >> YES SIR. WE DID IT.

>> QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? >> I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT, ACCESS FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES? HOW DOES THAT CONFIGURE? ARE BOTH GATES LOCKED? HOW ARE YOU DEALING

WITH THAT? >> BOTH GATES WOULD HAVE LOCKBOXES. THIS ONE, THE ONE IMPROVEMENT RESEARCH WITH ME ON THE FOR RESIDENTS, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD HAVE TO GET OFF ACCESS FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES. DURING ANY PHASING, THE DRIVEWAY LEADING UP TO THIS ENTRANCE WOULD ALSO BE IN PLACE

BEFORE THE OCCUPANT >> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> OTHER QUESTIONS? >> FIRST OFF, YOUR PROJECT IS OUTSTANDING. IT IS ONE-OF-A-KIND. I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO IT COMING OUT OF THE GROUND. I AM CURIOUS. YOU DID A MARKET SURVEY, OR MARKET INVESTIGATION. THIS IS A

HIGH-END PRODUCT. >> IT IS A HIGHER END PRODUCT .

THAT WAS WHY WE DID THE MARKET ANALYSIS . WITH THE INTEREST RATES THE WAY THEY ARE, WE'RE GOING TO GET THE REST OF OUR PERMITS AND HOPEFULLY THAT SETTLES DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND WE FEEL CONFIDENT IN THIS MARKET.

>> THE PHASING IN. >> I THINK IT IS OUTSTANDING. I AM EXCITED TO HAVE IT COME INTO FT. PIERCE.

>> VICKI. >> WHOEVER WAS IN THERE, THEY ARE ALMOST SURROUNDED BY VACANT LAND THAT WILL BE SOMETHING ELSE SOMEDAY. YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING MOVING NEXT TO

YOU SOMEDAY. GET READY FOR IT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I MAY CALL YOU BACK UP. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE IS GOING TO SPEAK TO ANYONE ELSE TO THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE? PLEASE FORWARD. I SEE NOBODY. AND LAST WORDS? YOUR GOOD? OKAY. WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION.

>> ONE, MDM. MAYOR. >> YES SIR.

>> AND ALL OF TIME IN THE PLANNING BOARD, HEAVILY SEEN

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ONE OTHER PROJECT COMING, THIS UPGRADED NATURE . THIS IS NOT STOCK HOUSING , BY ANY MEANS. THAT PROJECT THAT CAME IN IS NOT UP . I AM EXCITED TO SEE THIS COME INTO TOWN. I THINK IT WOULD MAKE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE CITY TO OFFER A DIFFERENT DIMENSION ON HOUSING. IT ALSO FULFILLS A VERY UNIQUE WORK AS WELL. I KEEP HAMMERING ON THIS AND TEST REAL SPACE USE PROVISION DEVELOPMENT THAT IS TAKING PLACE . IT IS VERY CLOSE IN PROXIMITY TO THIS . YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT PAY SCALES OF THOSE FACILITIES . EXECUTIVES THE PROPER HOUSING AT THEIR PAY SCALE AS WELL. IT IS NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT WORKFORCE HOUSING. WE NEED TO CROSS THE SPECTRUM ON HOUSING TO BE ABLE TO SATISFY THE NEEDS FOR THOSE POTENTIAL TENANTS LOOKING TO MOVE TO LARGE TRUCKS OF SPACE OUT THERE. I AM EXCITED TO SEE THIS. I THINK THE DEMAND WILL BE THERE. THE FACILITIES ARE ALREADY BILLED FOR THESE COMPANIES COMING TO TELL. COME DOWN TO FT. PIERCE. THE WEATHER IS FINE. WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU HERE. IT IS A PRODUCT THAT IS. I THINK IT

WILL BE SUCCESSFUL. >> AFTER WE HEARD, WE HAD THREE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT RELEASES FILLING THREE DIFFERENT NEEDS

TO BITE. >> YES. THAT IS THE SCENARIO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR YEARS. I THINK IT'S FINALLY COMING TO FRUITION WE JUST NEED THESE COMPANIES TO COME DOWN HERE. I AM HAVING LUNCH WITH. I THINK THE SUCCESS OF WHAT IS HAPPENING DOWN SOUTH AND WE HAVE SEEN LARGE DEVELOPMENTS, THOSE EXECUTIVES THAT ARE COMING TO SERVE THOSE AREAS , THEY ARE GOING TO NEED A PLACE TO LIVE. THE PUBLIC NOW AND THE PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP IS TEACHING US WHAT THEY KNOW.

WE ARE STARTING TO INDICATE THAT THAT IS VERY APPARENT.

FT. PIERCE IS GOING TO BE THAT COMMUNITY WHERE THEY MAKE -- THEY MAY NOT GET WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR. I THINK WE CAN AFFORD IT. I AM GLAD WE ARE RESPONDING AND PUTTING PROPERTIES THAT ARE VACANT AND TREES NOW AND TRYING TO GET OPPORTUNITY TO HOUSE THOSE EXECUTIVES, AS WELL AS OUR EXECUTIVES . BEASLEY, FOR US TO UNDERSTAND THE WORD IS OUT.

I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE, AS WE SEE THE SUCCESS, TO BEGIN TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE HEARD EARLIER FROM AFFORDABLE HOUSING. HOW DO WE UTILIZE THE OPPORTUNITIES COMING TO ADDRESS WHAT HAS NOT BEEN ADDRESSED FOR MANY YEARS IN THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE? LOW WAGES. ADDRESSING THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN RESILIENT TO HELP US BUILD THE COMMUNITY. WE DO NOT WANT THEM FORCED OUT BECAUSE WE CONTINUE TO BEAT THEM TO WORK , SUPPORT, AND LIVE HERE AND NOT HAVE TO DRIVE IN FROM SOME OTHER COMMUNITY TO SURFACE. I AM GOING TO BE STAFF TO REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW DO WE SUPPORT OUR CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO. WE ARE CAREFUL IN BUILDING OUT AND FINDING AFFORDABLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTS WHO WILL BE WORKING AND SERVING BUILDING THAT ARE COMING HERE.

WHAT IT TELLS ME IS THAT THIS TYPE OF COMPLEX, WITH THAT MANY HOUSING , IF WE APPROVE, THEY WOULD BE LONG SERVICE. THEY WOULD BE REPAIR. THEY WOULD NEED ELECTRIC. THEY WILL NEED:.

THEY WILL NEED A NUMBER OF THINGS WE ARE BUILDING THROUGH THE CITY WITH OUR PARTNERS OF THE COLLEGE TO TRAIN THE WORKFORCE TO MAKE THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO AFFORD HOUSING THAT IS COMING. I WANT US TO HEAR THAT AND I WANT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO HEAR THAT. THAT IS HOW WE ARE GOING TO WORK OURSELVES OUT OF THE SITUATION. I HAVE ENCOURAGED ABOUT THIS. IT IS EXCITING. WE HAVE GOT TO CONNECT THE DOTS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. WE MUST DO THAT.

>> CHALLENGE ACCEPT IT. >> ANYTHING ELSE? IS THERE A

MOTION? >> THAT WE APPROVE THE SITE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN REVIEW WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR INNOVATIVE DEVELOPMENT TO INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL FIVE

STAFF CONDITIONS. >> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND . >>: PLEASE. COMMISSIONER

[a. Selection of Mayor Pro Tem pursuant to Section 23 of the City Charter which requires the City Commission to select one (1) of their number as Mayor Pro Tem at the first regular meeting following January 1.]

BRODERICK? >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER GATES? >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? >> YES. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON?

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>> YES. >> NEXT, WE HAVE SELECTION

MAYOR PRO TEM. >> I MOVE THAT WE SELECT COMMISSIONER RODRICK AS MAYOR PRO TEM

>> MATTER BEING HER 48,000 RESIDENTS PREFER GOOD HELP FOR YOU. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO MISS ANY MEETINGS.

>> THEY CHEW -- VICKI VERY MUCH.

>> YES. >> WE HAVE SUBMITTAL OF THE

[b. Submittal of applications to serve on the Communitywide Council as an at-large member.]

SERVE ON THE COMMUNITY COUNCIL AS AN LARGE NUMBER. COME BACK

[c. Submittal of applications to serve on the Parking Committee as an at-large member.]

TO YOU FOR A THE NEXT MEETING. WE'RE STILL EXCEPT APPLICATIONS. THE SAME WITH THE SUBMITTAL OF APPLICATIONS

[d. Resolution 24-R01 addressing a request for an additional extension to comply with the terms of the Quit Claim Deed for 727 S.11th Street . ]

TO SERVE ON THE PARKING COMMITTEE AS AN AT-LARGE MEMBER. BEEN , WE WILL MOVE ON TO RESIDENT LUCIAN 24-R01 . A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE IN MAKING A DETERMINATION REGARDING THE CONSTRUCTION CORP. FOR A QUITCLAIM DEED 4727 S. 11TH ST. A QUITCLAIM DEED 4727 S. 11TH ST., FORT PIERCE IN PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. IT WAS RESOLUTION THERE ARE BASICALLY TWO OPTIONS TO CONSIDER. WE DO THE VOTE, WE WILL NEED TO CHOOSE WHICH OPTION YOU WISH TO

GO WITH. >> OKAY. IS THERE A

PRESENTATION? >> NO BEER. THERE IS NO PRESENTATION. HAVE BEFORE YOU IS BACKUP DOCUMENTATION PROVIDED BY THE DEVELOPER THAT RECENTLY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY. WE ALSO HAVE OUR REDEVELOPMENT SPECIALIST MIRIAM GARCIA TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.'S PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED BY KAY IVEY CONSTRUCTION IN 2021 . WE HAD A STIPULATION FOR CONSTRUCTION TO BEGIN BY JULY 2023. WE ARE PROVIDED THROUGH THE CITY COMMISSION AND ADDITIONAL 150 DAYS TO POUR THE FOUNDATION EXTENDED THE DEADLINE TO DECEMBER 14 ADDITIONAL 150 DAYS TO POUR THE FOUNDATION EXTENDED THE DEADLINE TO DECEMBER 14, 2023. I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM KIB CONSTRUCTION TO BEFORE YOU AND ASK FOR ANY TYPE OF EXTENSION AT THIS TIME .

HOPEFULLY YOU CAN HAVE THE CONVERSATION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM TO MAKE A FINAL DETERMINATION.

>> ARE YOU INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM THE GATE?

>> HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. IF WE CAN PUT PICTURES OF THE MOST RECENT PICTURES. WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT?

>> SHE IS COMING ON DELL. >> HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS

FOR THE PETITIONER HERE. >> PETITIONER. THANK YOU. I WAS

LOOKING FOR THE WORD. >> GETTING. GETTING. LET'S

GET THE AGENDA HERE. >> ARE YOU LOOKING FOR AGENDAS?

>> HE SAID PHOTOS, RIGHT? >> YES MA'AM.

>> THE AS OF THE DATE OF THE DEADLINE. THE APPLICANT IS HERE. THESE ARE DECEMBER 20.

>> THANK YOU. >> IS THE PETITIONER HERE? PLEASE FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND

COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTION >> MY NAME IS ED BAKASH.

>> I WANT TO SAY WE PURCHASED THIS A SINGLE . WE HAD UNDERGROUND PLUMBING INSPECTION FINISHED. WE'RE WAITING. WE ARE GETTING A DELIVERY THE FRIDAY COMING . WE

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ARE READY SCHEDULED CONCRETE TO POUR THE FOUNDATION . WE'RE HOPING BY MID-FEBRUARY WE SHOULD GET THAT COMPLETED.

>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAS REQUESTED?

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. WHAT WERE THE MAJOR CHALLENGES UPFRONT? THAT PROCESS IS FAIRLY QUICK WHEN IT STARTS TO HAPPEN.

YOU HAVE SOME OTHER CONTRACTORS OF THE REPAIR HOW IT WORKS. WE HAVE OFFICIALS AND ALL OF THAT GOOD STUFF. BROUGHT US TO TALKING ABOUT THIS IN 2024 WHEN WE COULD HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS OR HAVE A COMFORTABLE CHURCH AND IN 2023?

>> GO BACK WHEN WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY. WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS. UNDERSTAND IT DID NOT THE ONE THAT PUT US BACK. HE HELD FOR A GOOD WHILE.

>> OKAY. YOU'RE REGISTERED IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA? PARTNERS ARE REGISTERED IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AS A GENERAL CONTRACTOR

OR BUILDING CONTRACTOR? >> RESIDENTIAL.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE COMPONENT. I AM STARTING TO REACH OUT INTO THE CONSTRUCTION WORLD. IN THE INDUSTRY MYSELF, OVERALL COORDINATION IS ( . 2020. ISO WHAT HAPPENED IN 2023. THIS COMMISSION HAS HAD ABOUT A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOLDING FOLKS RESPONSIBLE WHEN THEY CREATE DELAYS. WE ARE LOOKING FOR VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION. MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TELL ME ALL THE TIME. WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE TIME IT TAKES FOR US TO TURN OVER THE PARCEL TAKE YOU TO GET TO WORK, BUILD THE PROJECT AND GET SOMEBODY IN THAT HOUSE IN THE RESIDENTIAL . THAT IS THE GET CHECK RESPONSIBILITY MOMENT I AM LOOKING FOR. THANK YOU.

>> THIS IS THE SECOND EXTENSION YOU HAVE REQUESTED. IS THAT

CORRECT? >> YES MA'AM. WHAT KIND OF

TIME ARE YOU REQUESTING? >> I WOULD SAY 60 DAYS IF YOU CAN GIVE US 60 DAYS. I DO NOT ANTICIPATE TAKING 60 DAYS.

HAVE BEEN ANTICIPATING 30 DAYS WITH WEATHER CONDITIONS , IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. THIS IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THE RAINY SEASON.. I SHARE COMMISSIONER

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JOHNSON CONCERN. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS QUITE A BIT.

WE WANT TO VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION WANT EMPTY LOTS WITH BUILDINGS ON IT. WE WANT IT SO DEVELOPMENT. WE WANT IT DONE IN A TIMELY FASHION. WE WANT TO BE FAIR TO YOU BUT WE WANT TO BE SURE TO. WE ARE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF CONTINUING TO GIVE EXTENSION AFTER EXTENSION. UNDERSTAND.

>> THIS , -- IF THIS HAPPENS TONIGHT, AS I AM CONCERNED THAT IS. AGREE WITH YOUR PERSPECTIVE. WE DO SEE PROGRESS HERE . YOU HAVE YOUR CRITICAL PATH OF CONSTRUCTION. COMPETENT 30 DAYS IS GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT, 60 DAY EXTENSION I CAN GO ALONG WITH THAT THE TERMS YOUR HEART SAID JUST ARTICULATED -- TO THE TERMS YOUR HAD TO JUST ARTICULATED.

DAY EXTENSION. I WAS GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT. IT IS GOING TO BE A 60 DAY EXTENSION OF THE DATE OF THE LAST? THE RESOLUTION WAS FOR 60. 60 DAYS TODAY DEPEND MOTION RECOMMENDATION COMMISSIONER JONATHAN ? WHEN WILL WE OR

[e. Resolution 24-R02 receiving the Affordable Housing Advisory Committee Report and presentation of recommendations..]

WHAT?? YES GATES? JOHNSON? YES YES 12. DIRECTING THEM TO REVIEW RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FUTURE LIMITATION OF APPROPRIATE IN PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE TO HAVE THE NEEDED? OF THE CITY COMMISSION, WHICH REPRESENTATIVE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO DELIVER THIS REPORT DELIVER THE RECOMMENDATION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THIS COMMISSION HAS BEEN ALL ABOUT HOUSING. STARTED?. . THAT EVENING. I AM ANDREA DAVIS. A RESIDENT OF DAVIS . I WANT TO INTRODUCE MEMBERS. WE HAVE LESLIE, CHAD PHIL THOMPSON ARE JAIL STAFF HAS HELPED US GRACIOUSLY. FIRST START WITH OUR PRESENTATION THE COMMITTEE'S RECOMMENDATION LAST YEAR WE WENT THROUGH EACH OF THE STRATEGIES TO DETERMINE COULD BRING FORTH TO THE COMMISSION TO ASSIST AFFORDABLE HOUSING THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE. FIRST -- THE COMMITTEE MET NINE TIMES IN 2023 . IT WAS A STRUGGLE BUT WE MADE IT. WE EVALUATED THE 11 STRATEGIES AND IMPLEMENTATION OPPORTUNITIES TO RECOMMEND TO THE COMMISSION. THESE 11 STRATEGIES ARE LISTED FOR THE STATUTE. TONIGHT WE WILL RECOMMENDS FIVE STRATEGIES FOR ". THE FIVE WE WILL BE ADDRESSING THE PROCESS OF APPROVAL DEVELOPMENT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS , EXPEDITING THEM TO A DEGREE THAT OTHER PROJECTS. THE MODIFICATION OF IMPACT FEED REQUIREMENTS INCLUDING REDUCTION OR WAIVER OF FEES AND ALTERNATIVE FEE PAYMENT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING . NUMBER FIVE , THE ALLOWANCE OF AFFORDABLE ACCESSORY RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, WHICH YOU HAVE HEARD . LESLIE WILL GO INTO FURTHER DETAIL. NUMBER SEVEN, THE ALLOWANCE OF FLEXIBLE CONFIGURATION ZERO LOT LINE CONFIGURATIONS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. NUMBER I , THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A PROCESS BY WHICH A LOCAL GOVERNMENT CONSIDERS BEFORE ADOPTION,

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POLICIES, PROCEDURES AND PRISON THAT INCREASE COST OF HEALTH

-- HOUSING. >> GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

>> YOU ARE PHIL THOMPSON, RIGHT?

>> I AM PHIL THOMPSON. I, BEFORE YOU. BASICALLY, FLEXIBLE LOG CONFIGURATIONS. PRESENTLY ARE PROHIBITED FROM OWNERSHIP WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THE REGULATION FOR MCGRATH INSTEAD OF HAVING ONE THAT CANNOT BE BUILT, THAT THE NONCONFORMING MAYBE THREE . IT WILL OPEN UP HOUSING WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE RESTRICTION BOTH THE CONTINUOUS OWNERSHIP SO AGAIN, ONE LOT PLATTED BY 100. INSTEAD OF WILL HAVE THREE COUNTIES. YOU WILL THREE SMALLER HOUSES AND LITTLE IN AND LISTEN TO AFFORDABLE. A QUESTION?

>> ABSOLUTELY >> WITH THAT, DO YOU HAVE TO GIVE A VERY FOR THROUGH ANOTHER BOARD? ARE YOU RECOMMENDING IT IS AUTOMATICALLY GRANTED THE VARIANCE WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS? WE ARE REQUESTING THE RESTRICTION IS SO THERE WILL BE COVARIATES THAT WILL BE NEEDED. IT WILL CUT DOWN THE TIME ON APPROVAL PROCESS . WE FEEL IT IS A GOOD WAY TO MOVE AS I UNDERSTAND RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT WE ARE TO REPORT NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRE A LOT OF CHANGES OR MAYBE EVEN IN SOME CASES PEOPLE . WE RECOMMENDATION . WE ARE NOT GOING TO AND I. TO TRANSFER THIS PORT . RESPONSIBILITY.

THE MAJORITY HELD THAT RESIZED. THEY CANNOT BE BUILT ON. IT IS WHY DID NOTHING TO THINK THAT IS STILL HELD AS THE SOUNDS, ABSOLUTE. I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THE. IN THAT DIRECTION TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION . THIS IS A JOINT THING . I AM EXCITED TO SEE THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT THEY RECOMMENDED STRATEGY NUMBER TWO IS ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS . ASSESSMENT OF TESTS TONIGHT TALK ABOUT IT IN GENERAL . IS ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COMMISSION THAT WOULD BEGIN AND LOOK AT WHERE THEY ARE APPROPRIATE. DIMENSIONAL STANDARD THAT WOULD TO BE APPLIED, A DISCUSSION ABOUT IMPACT FEES AND DENSITY. THESE WILL NEED TO BE WORKED THROUGH. THAT IS TAKING. THAT IS EASY. THAT IS A STRIKE WHO ORDERED. THIS IS NOT. THIS WOULD REQUIRE CONSIDERATION AND ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY. THEY HAVE DISCUSSED AND WHAT WE LOVE ABOUT THE IDEA OF ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS IS THIS IS A DEMOCRATIZATION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING . INSTEAD OF

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CREATING MULTI FAMILY LARGE GROUPING THAT EVERYONE IN THIS AREA IS A RECEIVING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IS IS A WAY OF IMPLEMENTING A PORTION OF THE FIXED INTO THE EXISTING AND INTO PEOPLE'S, CREATING GENERATIONAL PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY PROPERTY TO CREATE INTERGENERATIONAL HOUSING PROVIDE UNIT FOR ANOTHER FAMILY . THERE ARE ISSUES AND WE WILL NEED TO WORK THROUGH THE THIS IS A GOOD OPTION.

>> >> YOU HAVE TO SAY YOUR NAME AND BECAUSE THE MICROPHONE. I HAVE CHATTING .

>> I AM NOT AGAINST IT, I AM JUST ASKING A QUESTION THE CURRENT CODE RESTRICTED TO 25% OF THE ORIGINAL UNIT. YOU HAVE 500 YOU HAVE 500 FT.÷ HOUSE, YOU ARE LIMITED TO 25% OF THAT STRUCTURE WOULD BE. POINT. POINT. WOULD ALSO ADDRESS WHETHER OR NOT YOU HAVE A KITCHEN FACILITY ADDED TO THAT.

IS THAT RIGHT? YES. IT IS AN INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITY.

HAVING THE PERSON REACH ADULTHOOD AND NOT HAVING TO SHIP THEM TO FACILITY WOULD BE HELPFUL. CENTER JOHNSON STICK-CHECK IS NOT ONLY. THAT CONVERSATION FOR STAFF TO COMMISSION TO GET . TO FAMILY THAT IS WORTHY OF CONSIDERATION AND DISCUSSION AND THERE WILL BE A LOT OF DURATION AND DISCUSSION OF OPPOSITION TRIGGER THINGS LIKE

THE HOUSING. >> IT WOULD NOT TRIGGER HOUSING DISCRIMINATION ISSUES IF IT IS A SINGLE PERSON RENTING. WE DON'T HAVE TO OPEN IT UP TO ANYBODY . IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY COME TRY TO RENT THE SPACE OUT, IT IS THE PERSON -- THE OWNER'S WILLINGNESS TO RENT TO THEM YOU ARE NOT FORCING PEOPLE INTO THEIR BACKYARD THAT THEY DO NOT WANT THE THIRD STRATEGY IN THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE IS NOT HAVE A

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STRATEGY ABOUT REGULATORY REVIEW. DOES CREATING A CHECK OF REVIEW:-- REVIEW CHECK THIS OR FORM . THIS IS AN EXAMPLE JURISDICTIONS USE SINCE WE WEREN'T USING ANYTHING, WE DECIDED THIS WAS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO VENT TO ADDRESS IS HOW WE ARE READY AUDIBILITY AND WHAT IT WOULD MEAN FOR THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE. THIS WOULD FALL UNDER THE THE FIRST OF HOUSE THE RECORD NATION .

>> THE ONLY ADDITION WOULD BE GENERALLY ALL OF THE PATIENTS YOU HAVE FRONT OF YOU INNOVATIVE DESIGN PORTION OR WHATEVER ARROW PORTION HIS OWN PEOPLE WANT TO GO THROUGH, IT STARTS OUT AT $5000. YOU HAVE TO PAY $5000 TO COME IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS TO ASK YOU TO RESULT SOMETHING OR CHANGE . IF YOU TAKE THE PROJECT THAT ARE NOW BACKED UP FOR THESE -- THERE A TON OF ATTACHED TO EVERY TIME SOMEONE, FOR APPROVALS WHETHER NEEDING A SETBACK FOR MEETING EXTRA DENSITY. IS SET UP SO YOU CAN DESIGN A VERY SMALL THING ON A TARGETED ANYTHING OUTSIDE WOULD COST YOU MONEY. IF YOU WANT TO BUILD ADDITIONAL OR YOU WANT TO DO ALL OF THE THINGS YOU TALK ABOUT IS A MATTER OF WHAT THE DEVELOPER HAS TO PAY FEES ASSOCIATED WITH PLANS AND ALL OF THESE THINGS . THE PLANNING SCHEDULE, THE BUILDING PERMIT FEE SCHEDULE ARE LADEN WITH DIFFERENT LINES OF ADDED. THIS WOULD BE A WAY OF GETTING SOME OF THAT OUT. GET SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE MARGINS OF CAN I AFFORD THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THEN YOU GET A $20,000 BILL FROM THE CITY PLANNING AND ALL OF. WE ARE REQUIRED TO PUT IT MORE JOINTLY. ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT HELP. I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS STIFLING US RIGHT

NOW. >>.?

>> YES SIR. >> AGAIN, I AM IN SUPPORT OF IT. IT HAS TO BE STRATEGICALLY IMPLEMENTED. IT DOES COST TAXPAYERS OF THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE TO HAVE A MEETING, KEEP MY PHONE, STAFF, INSURANCE, ALL THE WAGES . AS LONG AS THAT IS BEING BROUGHT FORTH AND CONTEMPLATED. AGAIN, I AM IN SUPPORT, WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO IT. IT ALSO PREVENTS US FROM WAIVING PERMITS. GREAT RECOMMENDATION.

I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER BRODRICK MENTIONED THIS WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSION . THE STRATEGIES PROCESS IN PLACE FOR AFFORDABLE HEALTH DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND PERMITTING . OUR RECOMMENDATION TO CREATE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING NAVIGATOR EARLIER. IT WILL TAKE ADDITIONAL STAFF TO ASSIST DEVELOPERS WITH THESE PROCESSES IN UNDERSTANDING WHAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WOULD ACTUALLY COMING BILLS HOUSING IN THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE. I THINK WE WERE ALREADY . WE ARE ALREADY ADDING THAT IT IS OUR FINAL RECOMMENDATION TO CREATE A POSITION POSITION YOURS.

THERE ARE NEIGHBORING JURISDICTION THEY HAVE ARE

READY TO DEPART >> ANY QUESTIONS GOOD PATIENT

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. TOLD YOU WAS GOING TO QUESTIONS. DIDN'T LET YOU. I KNEW WHERE WE WERE GOING I AM HAPPY. I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO CONSIDER IS THAT ANYONE. THIS MEETING. IT WE NEED TO KEEP TOGETHER FORWARD. IS NOT GOING AWAY ANYTIME SOON WE DON'T HAVE PAST, IT'S OUR POSITION. IT IS SOMETHING WITH THE STATE, THE RULES, AND HOW EVERYTHING IS WORKING. I DON'T WANT TO BE THE ONES TO GUESS AND GUESS WRONG OR GUESS RIGHT. I THINK YOU HAD IT ON THE RIGHT TRACK WHERE WE GET THE PERSON OR WE FOLLOW THE LEAD OF SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY DOING THIS SO WE WILL KNOW WHERE TO GO. I AGREE WITH YOU 100%.

>> I JUST WANT TO ASK THE COMMITTEE, DID YOU STUDY WHAT WAS CONSIDERED, THE NEW HOUSING , AFFORDABLE HOUSING LAW THAT WAS PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE THIS PAST -- YES, YOU TOOK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. 102, EXACTLY.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STANDS OUT TO ME IS THAT THERE IS , THE ONLY THING I'VE EVER SEEN AS FAR AS MONEY BEING GIVEN TO THE CITY TO HIRE ANYBODY WAS CO-COMPLIANCE .

THERE WERE SOME THINGS IN THE SHIP AND BLOCK GRANT FUNDS THAT ALLOW YOU GUYS TO HIRE MORE CODE COMPLIANCE PEOPLE TO HELP REGENERATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD . THERE MIGHT BE SOME FUNDING, WHATEVER MECHANISM THAT WAS USED TO FIRE THAT. THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING HERE IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ARENA. A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS ARE NOT COORDINATING AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUES. IT IS THE CODE. GETTING THROUGH THE CODE IS A LOT BIGGER ISSUE THAN YOU GIVING US AN INCENTIVE OR EMAIL LINK TO FILL OUT A FORM TO GET AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT IS MORE

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THE CODE. >> AND ALL THIS WILL LAND ON THE COMMISSION SHOULDERS AND MR. MIMS. WE TAKE EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAY VERY SERIOUSLY AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR WORK.

IT WAS LAST WEEK JUST RESCINDED SOME OF THE INDUSTRIAL AND

COMMERCIAL . >> THEY HAVE NOT PASSED YET.

>> THEY RESCINDED THAT. >> THEY HAVE NOT PASSED IT YET.

RESENDING SOME OF THAT BUT THEY HAVE NOT DONE IT YET. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU ALL. THIS IS REALLY , IT MAKES YOU THINK.

WE APPRECIATE IT. >> OKAY, SO WE NEED TO VOTE ON

THE RESOLUTION. >> TO ACCEPT. SORRY.

>> IF YOU DON'T MIND ME ASKING THE QUESTION FOR CLARITY, IF YOU ALL ACCEPT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, ARE THERE SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS YOU WISH STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH

INFLUENCING? >> SO, WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING WAS ACCEPTING THE REPORT, AND THEN I THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD IN THE FUTURE TALK ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS. MISS COX ? THAT YOU ARE RECEIVING THE REPORT AND DIRECTING STAFF TO LOOK AT THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND MAKE A FUTURE DETERMINATION AS TO HOW THEY CAN BE IMPLEMENT IT.

>> AND -- >> HOW AND IF THEY CAN BE

IMPLEMENTED. >> DOES IT MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER IF WE GIVE THEM FIVE STARS OR ONE STAR?

>> WE WILL LOOK AT THEM. >> NOT A PROBLEM. I THINK ONCE WE VOTE ON THIS AND IT GOES THROUGH, I THINK YOU HEARD SOME COMMENTS OF WHICH ONES ARE NEAR AND DEAR.

>> WHICH ONE SOUND PROMISING.

>> IF I CAN MAKE ANOTHER COMMENT ABOUT NUMBER FIVE, I THINK THE STAFF POSITION, THE NAVIGATOR POSITION. I AM REMINDED OF SOME OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE NAVIGATOR TYPE POSITIONS. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO PUT THE BURDEN ON AN EXISTING STAFF MEMBER.

WHETHER IT IS CONTRACTUALLY, OR ADDING FTE . WE WILL HAVE TO

[f. Resolution 24-R03 amending the Local Housing Assistance Program (LHAP).]

DECIDE ALL THAT, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO GO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, HERE YOU GO, HERE IS YOUR OTHER HAT YOU HAVE TO WEAR. I'M BEING FUNNY ABOUT THAT, BUT --

>> I UNDERSTAND. >> YOU ARE IN CHARGE OF STAFF YOU CAN BRING US THE RECOMMENDATION.

>> THANK YOU. >> SO, I NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REPORT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IS THAT RIGHT?

>> APPROVE THE RESOLUTION. IT SAYS IT ALL IN THERE.

>> MADAME MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE RESOLUTION FROM THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

>> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER BRODRICK? COMMISSIONER GAINES? COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? MAYOR

HUDSON? >> NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION 24-R03 , A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION FOR CITY OF FORT PIERCE FOR APPROVING THE AMENDED LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN, AS REQUIRED BY THE STATE HOUSING INITIATIVES PARTNERSHIP PROGRAMS ACT. SUBSECTIONS 420.97 TWO 420.9079, FLOORS -- FLORIDA STATUTES FLORIDA ADMINISTRATOR CODE AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE ANY NECESSARY DOCUMENTS AND CERTIFICATIONS NEEDED BY THE STATE AUTHORIZING THE SUBMISSION OF THE LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN FOR THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE

DATE. >> MADAME MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION, WE HAVE OUR DIRECTOR OF FINANCE THAT IS GOING TO COME IN REVIEW ON THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. AS LINDA HAS SO GRACIOUSLY READ THE RESOLUTION, BEFORE YOU IS AN AMENDMENT TO OUR CURRENT LHAP. THERE ARE THREE STRATEGIES WE ARE ASKING TO BE AMENDED. THE FIRST IS THE OWNER OCCUPIED REHABS .

CURRENTLY OUR LHAP ALLOWS FOR A $50,000 MAX. WE ARE ASKING THAT THAT BE ADJUSTED TO 100,000, AND THE RATIONALE BEHIND IT IS THE COST OF MATERIAL COST, LABOR COST GOING UP DRASTICALLY. AND WE ARE HAVING TO TURN AWAY RESIDENCE BECAUSE WE GET , YOU KNOW, THEY COME IN AND ARE APPROVED FOR

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THE PROJECT BASED ON INCOME AND ALL, BUT BECAUSE OUR CURRENT LHAP ONLY ALLOWS FOR THE $50,000, MOST OF THE RESIDENCE PROJECTS ARE THE SCOPE OF WORK WELL BEYOND THAT WHEN THEY GET IN. SO WE HAVE TO DENY BECAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW GOING IN TO THE PROJECT THAT INSTEAD OF A $50,000 PROJECT IT MIGHT BE A $120,000 PROJECT. WE CAN'T DO, WE WILL NOT DO ANYTHING BECAUSE ONCE WE GET IN AND START THE WORK WE CANNOT LEAVE IT UNFINISHED. IN ORDER TO MEET THAT, WE HAVE TO , A LOT OF TIMES, TURN THESE RESIDENTS AWAY OR GET INTO THE PROJECT AND THERE ARE SO MANY CHANGE ORDERS BECAUSE IT MIGHT START OUT AS ONE PROJECT, BUT ONCE THEY GET IN THEOLOGICAL IS SO BAD. SO THEY HAVE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THAT AS WELL.

AND THEN ALSO, WE HAVE MONIES IN OUR COFFERS , OUR ALLOTMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND BY A CERTAIN , BY JUNE 30TH OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. ALLOWING THIS WILL ALLOW US TO HELP THOSE RESIDENTS THAT HONESTLY NEED IT THE MOST AND BRING THEIR HOUSES UP TO CODE . THAT IS THE FIRST ADJUSTMENT WE ARE ASKING , TO DO THE OWNER OCCUPIED REHABS , MAKING AN AMENDMENT TO THAT. THE NEXT IS, WE HAVE IN OUR CURRENT CODE A TOTAL DEMOLITION AND REBUILD FOR OWNER OCCUPIED RESIDENCE, AND THAT WAS AT 150,000. WELL, WE ALL KNOW THAT YOU CANNOT REALLY BUILD , REBUILD A HOME THESE DAYS FOR THAT. SO WE ARE ASKING THAT WE INCREASE THAT AMOUNT TO 250 . NOT THAT IT WILL BE THAT AMOUNT, BUT THAT IS THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT. AGAIN, A LOT OF TIMES THESE RESIDENTS, MOST OF THE HOUSES WE GO IN I AM GOING TO SAY ABOUT 80% OF THEM REALLY NEED TO BE A TOTAL TEAR DOWN .

SO THIS WILL ALLOW US FLEXIBILITY IF THAT IS THE CASE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND THE THIRD STRATEGY IS TO INCLUDE FORECLOSURE PREVENTION STRATEGY IN IT. WE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT IN OUR LHAP. SO WE WOULD GET THOSE RESIDENTS THAT CALM AND THEY BEAT THE REQUIREMENTS, BUT BECAUSE IT IS NOT IN OUR CURRENT LHAP WE CANNOT HELP THEM. WE ARE ASKING THAT WE INCLUDE FORECLOSURE PREVENTION IN OUR LHAP.

>> QUESTIONS FOR MISS MORRIS?

>> QUICK QUESTION. SO, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE INCREASING THE LEVELS OF PARTICIPATION , ANY FORECASTED IMPACT OBVIOUSLY WE WERE HOPING TO DO MORE WITH THE LESSER AMOUNTS. BUT OBVIOUSLY MORE AMOUNTS MEANS WE ARE GOING TO NOT DO AS MANY PROJECTS. MAYBE WE'LL DO ONE OR TWO MORE . HOW MANY KIND OF UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT , THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FEEL FOR THIS LEVEL OF CHANGE.

>> WELL, WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO AS MANY WITH OUR CURRENT FUNDING. IF OUR FUNDING INCREASES IT ALLOWS US TO DO MORE. AND WHAT WE HAVE BEEN RUNNING INTO IN THE PAST IS WITH OUR HUD , OUR ALLOCATIONS, MOST OF THE TIME A LOT OF IT IS WHAT WE ARE USING. SO THE COST IN THE PAST , WE HAVE HAD SUCH LIMITED CAPACITY AND NOT BEEN ABLE TO UTILIZE THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE HAD, BECAUSE AGAIN, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT COME IN AND WE CAN'T REALLY HELP THEM BECAUSE ONCE THEY GO INTO THE ASSESSMENT OF THE PROPERTY IT IS GOING TO COST, SAY, $80,000. WE CAN'T DO IT. WE WON'T DO IT BECAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW GOING AND IT IS GOING TO COST THAT AND WE CANNOT DO IT BASED ON OUR CURRENT LHAP . WE MAY NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY. BUT THEN WE MAY BE ABLE TO. IT JUST ALL

DEPENDS ON THE PROJECTS. >> I THINK THAT THE ASPECT OF WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING IS THAT OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO ADJUST, BECAUSE THINGS HAVE GONE UP. CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS ARE GOING UP. AND FOR US TO DO ANYTHING, I THINK EVEN IF WE ARE DOING ONE WORD TWO OR THREE, WHATEVER IT IS, WE ARE DOING SOMETHING IN OUR COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE AS OPPOSED TO TURNING PEOPLE AWAY BECAUSE OUR LIMITS ARE NOW BELOW THE

[14. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

MARKET THAT IS DRIVING THIS. OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> AND FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING FOR THEIR ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS, THIS IS A RESTRICTED FUND.

>> RESTRICTED, AND HUD IS THE FUNDING CRITERIA .

>> RIGHT, NOT EVERYBODY QUALIFIES FOR THIS. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER PROVISIONS? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION?

>> I MOVE THAT WE APPROVED RESOLUTION 24-R03 AMENDING THE LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM .

>> ALL THE ROLE-PLAYS. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON?

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MAYOR HUDSON? >> YES.

>> NEXT WE MOVE ON TO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

>> IT IS TIME FOR COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC, AND I APPRECIATE THE PUBLIC THAT STAYED TO THIS WHOLE MEETING. FOR YOUR COMMENTS TO THE PUBLIC, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. PLEASE COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND MS. COX WILL GIVE YOU A THREE SECOND WARNING. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

>> MAYOR, THERE WAS CONFUSION. WITHOUT THIS PUBLIC COMMENT WAS AT THE BEGINNING, SO HALF OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC ARE GONE , UNFORTUNATELY. THEY ARE GOING TO BE WRITING LETTERS TO YOU, I HOPE THIS IS NOT GOING AGAINST

MY TIME. >> STATE YOUR NAME AND WE WILL