[6. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject on this agenda may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Chairperson, as this section of the Agenda is limited to fifteen minutes. The FPRA Board will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Chairperson, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

>> ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO COMMENT ON AN AGENDA ITEM, PLEASE COME FORWARD, WILL YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. NOW I SEE MOVEMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD, SIR. YOU WILL GET A THREE

SECOND WARNING, WELCOME. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS FLIP GATES. I REMEMBER YEARS AGO STANDING HERE AND TELLING YOU THAT I HAD SOMEBODY WHO WAS INTERESTED IN DOING THE KING'S LANDING. UNFORTUNATELY HE GOT HIS RFQ IN LATE AFTER A NUMBER OF DAYS. THE GENTLEMAN HAS DONE MANY DEVELOPMENTS IN SARASOTA, BOSTON , OTHER PLACES. PROBABLY WORTH $100 MILLION. HE WAS VERY INTERESTED IN DOING THIS PROJECT DECKING'S LANDING. HE WAS NOT ABLE TO GET IT DONE BECAUSE HE WAS LATE WITH HIS PROPOSAL. HOW MANY YEARS HAS IT BEEN SINCE THE AUDUBON GOT THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS TO MATT

KING'S LANDING. >> IT IS NOT A DIALOGUE, YOU WILL HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT LATER.

>> ANYWAY, IT HAS BEEN A LOT OF YEARS. I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD CERTAINLY DECIDE TO MOVE ON FROM THIS GENTLEMAN. AT THE ROTARY CLUB HE WAS SPEAKING TO US AND I ASKED HIM, HOW MUCH MONEY WILL YOU PUT INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT OF THE HOTEL AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND HE SAID THAT HE WILL GET PEOPLE TO DEVELOP AND THE CONTRACTORS TO BUILD HOMES AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND I WILL HAVE SOMEONE COME IN AND BUILD A HOTEL BUT I WILL NOT PUT ANY MONEY INTO IT. I DON'T THINK THE GUY HAS PUT IN VERY MUCH MONEY INTO THIS PROJECT AT ALL. I THINK THAT

[7. CONSENT AGENDA]

YOU ALL SHOULD MOVE ON. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. ANYBODY ELSE ADDRESSING THE COMMISSION, COME FORWARD. NO, OKAY. LET'S MOVE ON.

>> NEXT WE HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION

OR IS THERE A MOTION? >> WE APPROVE THE CONSENT

AGENDA. >> SECOND.

>> THERE IS A MOTION TO SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[a. CRA Advisory Committee Recommendations by Chairman Phil Thompson]

BEING CALLED ] OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE THE CRA ADVISORY

COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS. >> WE HAVE OUR CHAIRPERSON, PHIL THOMPSON. I SEE ANOTHER ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBER , MR. CHAD INGRAM. HERE TO PROVIDE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS BASED UPON THEIR MEETINGS THAT THEY HAVE HAD IN THE PREVIOUS WEEKS.

>> WELCOME. >> COMMISSIONERS, MADAME CLARK, HELLO, EVERYBODY. AT THE CRA ADVISORY MEETING WE DISCUSSED A FEW POINTS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO THE REDEVELOPMENT BOARD ON HOW WE THINK ABOUT THE SURPLUS PROPERTY AND HOW TO SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA. I WILL START READING THE FIRST ONE. WE WOULD LIKE TO CREATE A PROCESS TO FACILITATE THE DONATION OF LOTS DUAL NONPROFIT

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ORGANIZATIONS. I WANT TO STRESS THAT IT IS NONPROFIT. WE DO NOT WANT ANYTHING RUN BY DEVELOPERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT IS STRICTLY NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS. WHERE THEY HAVE A SPECIFIC PURPOSE AND A SPECIFIC USE FOR THE PROPERTY.

ALL OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS, THEY NEED LARGER PARCELS FOR THE HOMELESS VETERANS PROGRAM LOOKING FOR THREE ACRES OR SO. THEY HAVE SMALL REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CATASTROPHICALLY INJURED VETERANS SO WE CAN PUT TOGETHER FIVE OR 10 LOTS FOR THAT. THAT IS ONE AREA. WE ALSO HAVE SPECIFIC NEEDS. TEACHING LIFE SKILLS TO YOUNG ADULTS, TRANSITIONING THEM INTO THE WORLD. THEY HAVE SPECIFIC NEEDS. EACH ONE OF THESE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS HAS A SPECIFIC NEED. THEY NEED DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROPERTY. WE WOULD LIKE TO UTILIZE ALL OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE.

ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? >> IT WOULD ALSO BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD SPARK DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREAS THAT THOSE PROPERTIES ARE IN. SOME OF THEM ARE CHOSEN BECAUSE THEY ARE ODD SHAPES THAT WE HAVE HAD ISSUES BUILDING UNITS THERE. WE WOULD TAKE THAT ODD SHAPE AND WE WOULD APPLY IT TO SOME TYPE OF HOUSING. THINGS THAT WOULD BE AFFORDED BY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE AND KEEPING THE CULTURE AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WORK WITH THESE PROGRAMS . I BELIEVE WE WOULD BRING IN THE PEOPLE THAT WILL KICK OFF THE HOME DEPOT EFFECT.

YOU SEE ONE AND IT WILL BRING OTHERS.

>> THE SECOND ITEM WE HAVE DISCUSSED IS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE CURRENT ZONING CODE THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT PROHIBIT DEVELOPMENT. THEY ARE SOME THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE. SOME REQUIREMENTS IN THE ZONING THAT IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO DEVELOPMENT. WE WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE CODE FOR THESE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE CAN MAKE FOR THEIR ZONING REQUIREMENTS ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. WE WANT TO HAVE SOME LEEWAY TO DEVELOP THESE SIDE

POINTS. >> THE PLANNING MEETING YESTERDAY, THERE WAS SOME GREAT LANGUAGE INTRODUCED INTO STARTING THIS CONVERSATION. THIS RECOMMENDATION FALLS IN LINE WITH THEIRS. IT IS COMING FROM TWO DIFFERENT SOURCES. A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT THEY RECOMMEND ARE ISSUES FOR

SMALLER DEVELOPMENTS. >> WE WOULD LIKE TO CREATE A SUBSIDIZED APPLICATION PROCESS FOR THESE PROPERTIES. MEANING THAT SOME OF THE FEES WILL BE WAIVED. SOME OF THE APPROVALS WILL BE FAST-TRACK. AGAIN, I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR, THIS IS FOR NONPROFIT COMPANIES ONLY THAT HAVE SPECIFIC USES FOR THESE PROPERTIES. THIS IS NOT FOR OUTSIDE DEVELOPERS LOOKING TO MAKE MONEY ON THE PROPERTY. IT IS TO USE THE SURPLUS PROPERTY FOR A GOOD CAUSE THAT WILL BENEFIT THE PUBLIC AND START SOME DEVELOPMENT IN THOSE AREAS.

>> ALL THREE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS APPLY TO

NONPROFITS. >> CORRECT, I WANT TO BE VERY SPECIFIC ON THAT. IT IS STRICTLY FOR NONPROFIT AND

NOTHING ELSE AT THIS POINT. >> TWO COMMENTS. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, GENTLEMEN. WE ARE WORKING ON THIS. WE ARE APPRECIATIVE OF THAT. COMING UP THROUGH THE COMMITTEE. AS FAR AS THE PLANNING ASPECT IS CONCERNED, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAS ONE OF THEIR PRIMARY GOALS BEING THE NEW WRITING OF THESE CODES. THAT WAY THESE LOTS CAN BE UTILIZED.

IT IS REMARKABLE TO THINK THAT ZONING IS PUT INTO PLACE THAT WILL DELEGITIMIZE THE USE OF INTERIOR CITY LOTS. IT HAPPENS.

REGARDLESS, THE FUNCTION OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS TO CURE THAT ISSUE. THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. THE SUPPORT OF

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YOUR BODY BEHIND THAT INITIATIVE FOR THE CITY COMMISSION WILL HELP KEEP THAT PROCESS MOVING FORWARD. IT IS CLEARLY AN ISSUE. THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, I KNOW THEY ARE ON TASK DEALING WITH THIS. I HAVE DISCUSSED IT ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS. THEY ARE MOVING FORWARD ON THIS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. GREAT IDEA. EVERYONE IS THINKING IN THE SAME VEIN TO FIX THIS PERMANENTLY AND MAKE THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS OF THOSE LOTS MUCH MORE SIMPLISTIC. THE SECOND COMMENT I HAVE IS ON THE FEES AND COSTS OF WHAT IS PERMANENT. THE CITY COMMISSION DOES NOT HAVE OVERSIGHT THERE, IS THAT

CORRECT? >> FOR BUILDING PERMITS, THAT IS CORRECT. THE CITY DOES ESTABLISH ANY TYPE OF APPLICATION FEES OR LAND DEVELOPMENT FEES, THAT IS THROUGH THE RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION.

>> WE CAN HAVE SOME IMPACT THERE. THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS INDEPENDENT. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN ADVOCATING TO MOVE FORWARD. GREAT IDEA.

ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO TO SPUR ACTIVITY THERE, I AM 100% BEHIND IT. NONPROFITS WITH PROPER VETTING WOULD BE THE ACTION TO TAKE. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD.

>> WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS WE ARE TRYING TO BREAK THE ICE.

LET EVERYBODY KNOW THE PROCESS. WE ARE STREAMLINED, WE WILL GIVE YOU A BREAK ON THE FEES. WE WILL CUT SOME OF THE RED TAPE AND CHANGE THE ZONING SO WHAT YOU NEED ON THIS PROPERTY WILL WORK TO BETTER SERVE THE PUBLIC. GET IT STARTED. GET TWO OR THREE OF THEM GOING. IT WILL HAPPEN. TWO DOWN THE BLOCK. THEN YOU ARE CREATING EVERYTHING.

>> IN MY HEAD I CANNOT PROJECT THIS OUT TO EVERYONE ELSE, THIS WILL HELP US DEVELOP THE COURSE FOR SMALLER DEVELOPERS THAT WANT TO LEARN THE INS AND OUTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS

BEFORE THEY START. >> JUST LETTING THEM KNOW, THROUGH THE NONPROFITS IT WOULD BE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER ON 13TH STREET. WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH MS. GARDNER ON IT.

IT WOULD EDUCATE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY FOR WHAT IT TAKES TO DEVELOP PROPERTIES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND USE THE POWER THAT THEY HAVE THAT IS STUCK UNDERNEATH ALL OF THE DIFFERENT HURDLES THAT YOU HAVE TO GET THROUGH TO GET TRADITIONAL FINANCING. I WILL BE TALKING TO BANKS TO DEVELOP A COMMUNITY EFFORT ALONG WITH THIS. IF THE CITY IS ON BOARD AND WE SEE THINGS MOVE, IT IS LIKELY THAT WE CAN TALK THEM INTO COMING ALONG AND LOOKING AT PROJECT AFTER PROJECT AND BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE. I CAN SEE THAT BANKS WANT TO SUPPORT THAT AND GET NAME SPONSORSHIP. WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY.

MR. FRIEDMAN HAS BEEN EXCEPTIONALLY ACCOMMODATING WITH LOOKING AT SOME OF THE ISSUES. WE APPRECIATE THAT.

>> I APPRECIATE THE IDEAS. THIS IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR. WE SAW THE PLANNING BOARD TAKE ON THESE TASKS. WE HAVE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS. WITH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE SUPPORT HIM MAKE SENSE. YOU ARE LOOKING AT IT THROUGH ANOTHER SET OF LENSES. I APPRECIATE THAT. WITH THE PLANNING CODE WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ALL OF THE ELEMENTS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SETBACKS AND STORM WATER MANAGEMENT AND LOT MANAGEMENT IN GENERAL. YOU ARE RIGHT. THE CODE, WE OVERLOOK THOSE THINGS FOR A WHILE. WE DID NOT DIAL-IN TO THE HISTORIC PARTS OF OUR CITY. THAT WERE LOOKING TO BE REDEVELOPED OR REHABBED OR DEVELOPED FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, THOSE ASPECTS OF IT. INNOVATIVE DEVELOPMENT, INNOVATIVE DESIGN. SOMETHING THAT MEETS FLORIDABUILDING CODE AND COMING UP WITH SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE NONTRADITIONAL. I HAVE CHILDREN THAT ARE IN THEIR 20S. I UNDERSTAND THEM ALL THE TIME TALKING ABOUT WHAT IF WHEN THEY GROW UP AND WHERE THEY WANT TO BE. I TAKE IT TO HEART WHEN I HEAR THEIR VOICES. THEY ARE SPEAKING TO GEN Z OR WHATEVER

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GENERATION YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS POINT. THE BUILDING CODE IS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT FEES. THERE ARE INNOVATIVE WAYS. WE HAVE WAIVED THE IMPACT FEES IN THE DISTRICT BEFORE. WE ARE IN THAT NOW, I BELIEVE. THERE ARE A LOT OF WAYS TO ACCOMMODATE THIS. I NOTICE THAT THERE IS A STATUTE ATTACHED. FLORIDA STATUTE MENTIONS ONLY 501 BECAUSE C6 HAS ASSETS TIED TO

IT. >> SPECIFIC AREAS OF FOCUS. IT HAS TO BE FOCUSED ON IMPROVING THE HUMAN CONDITION.

>> MAKE SENSE. ALL RIGHT. >> COMMISSIONERS, ANYTHING

ELSE? >> THESE ARE EXCELLENT RECOMMENDATIONS. THEY HAVE TO BE VETTED BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW.

SOME OF THESE MIGHT HAVE LEGAL THINGS THAT NEED TO BE WORKED

OUT. >> I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN OUT RIGHT APPROVE THEM BUT WE CAN ACCEPT THEM AS A CONCEPT AND PURSUE THEM AS BEST WE CAN.

>> WE ARE ASKING FOR THE ACCEPTANCE OF SETTING UP A PROCESS. IF IT WAS CENTRALIZED IN A MANNER THAT EACH INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATION DID NOT HAVE TO COME TO THE CITY, THAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGH SOME TYPE OF A FUNNEL. THEY WOULD PROVIDE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO THAT PARTICULAR GROUP AND THE CITY WORKS WITH A SINGLE ENTITY AND SETS UP THE PARAMETERS FOR IT AND WE USE A COMMUNITY EFFORT TO GUIDE THESE PEOPLE THROUGH WHERE CITY EMPLOYEES ARE NOT USED TO USING EVERY APPLICATION. WHEN IT COMES TO THE CITY, BUILDING PLANS EVERYTHING LAID OUT AND THERE WILL BE A LIBRARY AT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WHERE PEOPLE CAN CHOOSE ALREADY APPROVED PLANS AND WHERE THIS BECOMES SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY BUILDS UP AND A SINGLE ORGANIZATION GUIDES THROUGH THE PROCESS AND COMMUNICATES WITH YOU GUYS.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANY MORE DISCUSSION OR DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? ARE WE ACCEPTING THIS NOW?

>> CAN WE MAKE A MOTION? WE JUST SUGGEST THAT WE ARE SUPPORTING AS WE NEED MORE INFORMATION?

>> SUPPORTING THE RECOMMENDATION. THE MOTION WILL BE APPROPRIATE TO SUPPORT THE CONCEPT.

>> ABOUT WOULD SUPPORT THE CONCEPT. SECOND?

>> MAYOR BROADWAY?

>> MAY I ASK, WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP? HOW WOULD WE BE

ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THIS? >> THE NEXT STEP WILL BE TOLD TO US AND WE WILL WORK WITH MR. MINT. DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH IDEAS? WOULD YOU HAVE THE NEXT STEP AND WHAT IT WOULD BE?

>> MAYOR AND CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, WE WILL REVIEW THE RECOMMENDATIONS. WE WILL CONSIDER THEM FOR LEGALITY.

AND THEN WE WILL DECIDE IF THEY CAN BE IMPLEMENTED BASED ON THE CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES. WE'LL BRING UP THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR IMPLEMENTATION AND MOVE FORWARD IN THAT PATH. I CAN'T TELL YOU OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD AS FAR AS THE TIME. REVIEWING THIS TODAY, IT WILL TAKE A COUPLE OF MEETINGS, COUPLE OF MONTHS TO ACTUALLY RESEARCH AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING

A LEGAL AND TRUE PATH. >> THERE IS A LOT MORE INVOLVED

IN IT. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> REALLY QUICK BEFORE I LEAVE, DOES IT MAKE SENSE OR MAYBE THE COMMITTEE ALREADY HAS A. DO WE HAVE A LIST OF PROPERTIES THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR SUCH A PROJECT? DO WE HAVE AN IDEA? AS

FAR AS THE CRA GOES. >> THEY DO OWN PROPERTY. WHICH PROPERTIES COULD BE POTENTIALLY DONATED. WE CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AS FAR AS STAFF. THAT IS A DECISION FROM THE

BOARD. >> THEY ARE COMING UP WITH IDEAS. IF WE HAVE A DOZEN PROPERTIES THAT WE CAN

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RECOMMEND IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS, WE WILL GET IN FRONT OF THEIR BOARD. THIS IS A PARALLEL TRACK OF MOVEMENT. THE PLANNING BOARD

HAS TO DO A LOT OF WORK. >> IF I COULD. SARAH DEL GATO HAS A LIST OF POSSIBLE NUMBERS THAT WOULD BE APPLICABLE FOR EACH ORGANIZATION IN THE URBAN AREA.

>> WE WILL GET BACK TO YOU NEXT MEETING.

>> WE WILL GET TO THE COMMITTEE NEXT MEETING.

[b. Update on King's Landing Project by Dale Matteson]

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

>> THE NEXT ITEM IS THE UPDATE ON KING'S LANDING PROJECT.

>> MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, WE DO HAVE MR. MADISON. I DO SEE THAT HE DOES HAVE SOME ASSOCIATES WITH HIM.

I WILL HAVE HIM INTRODUCE HIS TEAM. HE WILL GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE KING'S LANDING PROJECT.

>> WELCOME, MR. MADISON. HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET TECHNOLOGY

TO WORK WITH US HERE. >> WE WANT TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE KING'S LANDING PROJECT. THEN WE HAVE OUR GENERAL CONTRACTOR HERE. WE WILL KIND OF CARVE THIS UP INTO THREE COMPONENTS. THE SITE WORK, THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN THE HOTEL. I WILL COVER THE FIRST TWO AND THEN WE WILL BRING GREG AND KENNY UP AND THEN I WILL COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE HOTEL IN MORE DETAIL. ONE THING I DO WANT TO MENTION IS THAT I AM SICK OF TALKING ABOUT THE BRIGHT LINE THING. AS A FELLOW PROPOSER, I AM DISAPPOINTED IN THEIR DECISION. I THINK THEY WILL BE DISAPPOINTED IN THEIR DECISION AS TIME GOES ON, IT IS LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION. STUART IS NOT THE RIGHT LOCATION. FORT STEWART HAS A SUPERIOR LOCATION IN THE KING'S LANDING SITE. IT IS DISAPPOINTING THAT IT HAPPENED THAT WAY. THEY MIGHT HAVE GIVEN US A TILE FOUR YEARS AGO IN THIS ROOM. I CANNOT REMEMBER WHAT COMMISSIONER ASKED THE WESTIN. FOUR YEARS AGO DURING THE RFP FOR KING'S LANDING, SOMEBODY ASKED IF WE GIVE BRIGHT LINE THE SITE, WILL YOU GUARANTEE A TRAIN STOP. AND THEIR ANSWER WAS NO. AND SOMEBODY, ONE OF YOUR COLLEAGUES ASKED, WHAT HAPPENED? THEY SAID THAT THEY WILL GIVE THE LAND BACK OR THEY WILL SELL IT. THEY TOLD US FOUR YEARS AGO THEIR INTENTIONS AND WE TRY. WE SWING FOR THE FENCES AND THINGS CHANGE. WE MOVE ON.

LET ME GIVE YOU A BIT OF A BACKDROP. WHEN THE RFP WAS PUT OUT, YOU ASK FOR MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT WITH RETAIL, RESTAURANTS, AND A HOTEL. THE SITE WAS NO HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS, NO PARKING REQUIREMENTS, FULLY REMEDIATED WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF CERTIFICATE. NONE OF WHAT WE THOUGHT THERE HAS COME TO PASS. WE WERE AWARDED THE PROJECT IN DECEMBER OF 2019. IF IT FEELS LIKE WE HAVE BEEN ON THIS THING FOREVER, WE HAVE. WE HAVE CLOSED ON THE PROJECT TWO YEARS AGO IN APRIL OF 2022. TECHNICALLY WE HAVE ONLY HAD THIS PROJECT FOR TWO YEARS AND IT FEELS LIKE FOREVER. IN THE EARLY STAGES BETWEEN 2019 AND WILL BE CLOSED IN APRIL OF 2022, THE CITY COULD NOT CONVEY THE PROPERTY TO US FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. THERE WAS A REVERT ON THE LAND THAT HAD TO BE CLEARED OUT. SOME ROADS WERE ABANDONED AND PARCELS NEEDED TO BE ASSEMBLED. WE DID TRAFFIC STUDY AFTER TRAFFIC STUDY.

HEIGHTS CHALLENGES. WE DID NOT WANT TO MAKE IT HIGHER TO MAKE

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IT HIGHER. YOU SQUEEZE THE BALLOON ON PROJECTS LIKE THIS TO MAKE THEM FINANCIALLY MAKE SENSE. THERE WAS A CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE IN THE PROJECT TO MAKE IT WORK. THERE WAS A CERTAIN NUMBER OF HOTEL ROOMS NEEDED TO MAKE IT WORK. THINGS CHANGE AS YOU MODEL THE DEVELOPMENT. WE HAD TO WORK THROUGH THOSE CHALLENGES AS WELL. AND THEN THERE WAS THE MERGE AND LAND ACT THROUGH THE PROPERTY. THE SEAWALL WAS MUCH DEEPER INTO THE PROPERTY THAN IT IS NOW. IN THE EARLY 1900S ALL THAT STUFF GOT FILLED IN. THAT HAD NOT BEEN RESOLVED WITH THE STATE. THE CITY HIRED AN ATTORNEY TO TACKLE AND WE GAVE THE PROJECT TO OUR ATTORNEY. HE FIXED IT.

WE GOT THE LAND REVERTER'S RELEASED AT THE STATE LEVEL AND YOU ADD IN COVID WHEN ALL THIS IS HAPPENING. THAT TAKES FROM DECEMBER 2019 TO 2022 JUST TO GET THE SITE READY TO WHERE WE THOUGHT IT WAS SHOVEL READY. AS I SAY, IF IT FEELS LIKE WE HAVE BEEN IN THE PROJECT FOREVER, IT IS ONLY BEEN TWO YEARS. SINCE WE HAVE ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY AND CLOSED ON THE LAND IN APRIL OF 2022, LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE. LET'S MAKE PROGRESS HERE AND SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING. I WANT TO START WITH A VIDEO. A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THAT WE WANTED TO BE SHOVEL READY. WE WANT SHOVELS IN THE GROUND. UNLESS YOU ARE HIDING UNDER A ROCK, YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE SHOVELS IN THE GROUND. THEY ARE DOING WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE.

>> BUYING CONCRETE FROM A FORMER POWERPLANT BEING SENT TO THE ATLANTIC OCEAN TO BE REPURPOSED AS AN ARTIFICIAL REEF. THIS WILL BE THE FUTURE KING'S LANDING DEVELOPMENT.

MORE ON WHY THIS REEF IS SUCH A BIG WIN FOR THE ENVIRONMENT.

>> JIM AND LEXI THIS IS TWO THIRDS OF THE 1500 TONS OF CONCRETE IN THE ATLANTIC OCEAN SERVING AS A REEF TO HELP

WILDLIFE. >> CONCRETE IS SERVING A NEW PURPOSE IN THE OCEAN. KING'S LANDING WITH HOTELS, APARTMENTS AND MORE AROUND 2026. HE NEEDS MORE WORK BEFORE CONSTRUCTION

HAPPENS. >> ALL OF THE FOUNDATION FROM THE POWER PLANT HAD TO BE REMOVED. THE COST OF TRUCKING IT AND PUTTING IT IN THE LANDFILL DID NOT MAKE SENSE.

NEWLY THIS REALIZATION MADE THE DEVELOPMENT TO CALL THE RESOURCES COORDINATOR. HE CHOSE TO DONATE THE CONCRETE AND GIVE LIFE TO THIS MAJOR PROJECT. NEWLY THE 17 YEARS THAT I HAVE BEEN YEAR, THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCRETE PROJECTS WE HAVE HAD. WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE HABITAT THAT WE ARE

CREATING. >> PUTTING CONCRETE IN THE OCEAN HELPS FISH AND OTHER SPECIES THRIVE. THIS CONCRETE

WILL TOO. >> LOVE CRACKS AND CREVICES WHICH ARE GOOD FOR CRYPTIC SPECIES OF FISH. THEY LIVE IN THE CRACKS AND CREVICES AND THAT IS THE BOTTOM OF THE FOOD

CHANGE. >> FLORIDA IS THE RECREATIONAL CAPITAL OF THE WORLD. ALL THE THINGS WERE DOING IN THE WATER HERE. IT FEELS GOOD TO GO BACK TO THE ENVIRONMENT WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT WILL HELP THE HABITAT. THE WATER WILL HAVE CONCRETE INNATE IN FEBRUARY. HOPING THAT IT WILL BE NAMED AFTER KING'S LANDING.

>> SHOVELS IN THE GROUND. 1500 TONS OF CONCRETE CAME OUT, WE DID SOMETHING GOOD WITH IT AND TURNED IT INTO AN ARTIFICIAL REEF. HERE ARE SOME STILL PICTURES OF THE PROJECT. THEY POURED THIS STUFF THICK. SOME OF IT WAS EIGHT FEET THICK. WE

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HAD TO BRING IN THE EQUIPMENT. CAN YOU ROLL A FEW MORE THERE? DOING TO GET THIS SITE TO WHERE WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE SHOVEL READY. IT IS NOW SHOVEL READY. ANOTHER THING THAT WE HAD TO DO, IT HAD THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT CERTIFICATE ON IT TO THAT SAID THAT IT WAS CLEAN AS LONG AS WE DID NOT MOVE ANY DIRT. WE COULD NOT DO ANYTHING WITH THE PROJECT UNTIL WE GOT IT RECERTIFIED. WE GOT THIS REMEDIATION AND WE HAD TO WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION TO GET THE RIGHT CERTIFICATE ON THE LAND. WE HAD TO MONITOR THE SITE CONSTANTLY AND WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS TO GET THE PROPER PERMIT ON THE SITE SO THAT WE COULD BUILD. IT NOW HAS THE PROPER PERMIT ON THE SITE. THEIR CONCERN WAS IF YOU MOVE SOIL AROUND IT CAN DISTURB A PLUME FROM THE CONTAMINATION THAT WAS THERE. THAT PROBABLY WOULD'VE BEEN FINE. IF YOU WANT TO BUILD THIS BIG PROJECT AND NEEDS TO BE CERTIFIED PROPERLY. IT WAS DONE AT GREAT TIME AND EXPENSE. NOW THE SITE IS SHOVEL READY AND READY TO GO. THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE ARE GIVEN TO THE CITY. AND AS ALWAYS BEEN A PLAN TO GIVE THE SIDEWALKS AND ROADS TO THE CITY. THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS A CITY PROJECT. WE WANTED TO SELL THE PAD OF LAND TO THE HOTEL AND PAY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THOSE PROCEEDS. ALONG THE WAY IN THE DEVELOPMENT, WE DECIDED THAT WE WANTED A BETTER HOTEL AND THAT DECISION CAUSED US TO GIVE THE LAND TO THE HOTEL. AND SO THOSE PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE OF THE LAND TO THE HOTEL VANISHED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. WITH THE HELP OF STAFF AT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL , WE WENT AND I THINK WE HAVE A PHOTO OF DUMP TRUCKS. 500 DUMP TRUCKS.

IF YOU PULL THE DEBRIS OUT, SOMETHING HAS TO GO BACK. WE HAVE 500 DUMP TRUCKS OF DIRT GOING BACK TO MATT KING'S LANDING. THAT IS A PRETTY BIG PROJECT, THEY COME AND GO.

THIS IS THE MAYOR GETTING A CHECK FOR $2.7 MILLION FOR INFRASTRUCTURE I KING'S LANDING. ANOTHER THING THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE BECAUSE OF THE CONSCIOUS DECISIONS WE HAVE MADE IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. HOW DO YOU MAKE THIS WORK? HOW DO YOU BUILD KING'S LANDING? THIS UNDERSCORES SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE HAVE INITIATED TO HELP MAKE THIS PROJECT GO. ALL THE STUFF IS OUT. WE HAVE DESIGNED THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND SUBMITTED A PLAN FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN AUGUST OF 2022. ALL OF OUR ROADS, ALL OUR SEWER, ALL OF OUR LIGHTS, SUBMITTED TO THE CITY IN AUGUST OF 22. WE RECEIVED APPROVAL IN AUGUST OF 2023 FOR THAT. AND SINCE OCTOBER OF 2023 THE PLAN OF INFRASTRUCTURE HAS BEEN APPROVED AND IS READY TO GO. GREG AND KENNY LEWIS MIGHT BE

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ABLE TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE GRANULAR ON THE DATE. OR JACK MAYBE. WE MADE A CONSCIOUS DECISION AT ONE JUNCTURE TO NOT TEAR UP INDIAN RIVER DRIVE THREE TIMES. IT NEEDED TO BE TORN UP FOR NEW UTILITIES. WE NEEDED TO TEAR IT UP FOR UTILITIES. THE CITY NEEDED TO TEAR UP UTILITIES. THERE WAS A DECISION MADE TO NOT DO THAT THREE TIMES. BUT TO WAIT AND DO A ONE TIME. WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN DINE AND READY SINCE OCTOBER OF 2023, WHAT WE DID IS WE GOT THE SITE READY FOR DEVELOPMENT MOVING ALL THE STUFF THAT YOU SAW COMING OUT OF THE GROUND, PUTTING ALL OF THE SOIL BACK IN THE GROUND. DESIGNING THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT COST MONEY. SO FAR WE ARE SHY OF $2 MILLION THAT WE HAVE INVESTED IN THIS PROPERTY. I WILL COMMENT ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS, THE STUFF DID NOT COME OUT OF THE GROUND FOR FREE AND THE ENGINEERING DID NOT HAPPEN FOR FREE. THE ENVIRONMENTAL CERTIFICATE DID NOT GET DONE FOR FREE. LOTS OF LEGAL HAS GONE INTO GETTING THIS SITE SHOVEL READY. WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED THAT IN TWO YEARS. GREG AND KENNY, TAKE SOME MORE

GRANULAR -- TO BE SURE. >> CAN YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF? KENNETH. HE IS THE DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS. HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT KNOWS HOW TO USE A COMPUTER BASICALLY. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO THANK JACK ANDREWS AND THE UTILITY BOARD.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR OVER A YEAR WITH THEM. WE HAVE ON-SITE INFRASTRUCTURE. THE SEWER LINES AND WATER LINES, ALL OF THAT. THAT CREATES A LOOP THAT IS TIED INTO YOUR SYSTEM. WE HAVE ON-SITE AND OFF-SITE. WE DETERMINED A YEAR AGO IN FEBRUARY THAT THE BEST FOR YOU ALL AND US, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE WILL TURN OVER THIS INFRASTRUCTURE TO YOU ALL WITH YOU ALL WILL MAINTAIN IS TO UTILIZE THE SAME CIVIL CONTRACT. WE PUT OURS OUT FOR BID JULY 7TH OF LAST YEAR. WE TOOK THIS AUGUST 8TH OF LAST YEAR. WE WERE IN A POSITION IN FACT WHERE WE BROUGHT IN SOME OF THE DIRT AND DOING THE EROSION CONTROL AND STUFF LIKE THAT. BY THE WAY, DALE PAID FOR THE ENGINEERING OF THE WATER AND EVERYTHING ON YOUR PROPERTY SO THAT WE DID NOT LOSE TIME AT ALL. YOU CAN CHECK WITH JACK TO VERIFY THAT. WE TRIED TO UTILIZE THE SAME CONTRACT. YOU ALL PUT YOUR PART OUT JANUARY 20TH. YOU ALL RECEIVED BIDS ON FEBRUARY 20TH AND THEY ARE UNDER REVIEW. ONCE YOU ALL MAKE THE DECISION AND WE HAVE MUTUAL CONTRACTORS THAT BID ON OUR PROJECT AND BID ON YOUR PROJECT. OUR HOPE IS THAT YOU ALL ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSTRAINT ON GOOGLE YOU HAVE TO USE. WHEN YOU DETERMINE WHO YOU'RE GOING TO USE, IF THEY HAVE NOT MADE OUR PROJECT, THE WHOLE THING IS THAT EVEN IF IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME IN THE INITIAL, THE COORDINATION BETWEEN US AND YOU ALL -- YOU KNOW. PUTTING A PIPE IN THE GROUND NOW AND THEN YOU ALL TRYING TO ATTACH IT LATER WILL BE AT DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS. AS OF LAST FRIDAY AFTERNOON, WE UNDERSTAND THROUGH OUR ENGINEERS THAT SOME OF THE WORK THAT THEY HAD ALREADY DONE IN THE MEETING THAT HE HAS DONE HAS CHANGED. HAD WE GONE AHEAD WITH SOME OF OUR WORK, WE COULD END UP REDOING IT. YOU ALL ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING

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THROUGH SOME OF THAT. IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE WE ARE NOT DOING AS MUCH, WE REALLY ARE. IT IS IN THE PLANNING STAGE. I USED TO TELL MY FATHER WHO WAS AN ARCHITECT. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT IS CHEAPER THAN THE GUYS ON FIELD. WE WANT TO ONLY PAY FOR EVERYTHING ONCE. YOU HAVE BEEN TERRIFIC TO WORK FOR. YOU WORK IN A DIFFERENT SPEED THAN WE DO. WE ARE READY ONCE YOU ALL DECIDE WHO ARE YOU AWARDING THE PROJECT TO TO GET THEM INVOLVED WITH US. HOPEFULLY IT IS ONE OF THE CONTRACTORS THAT ALREADY BID WITH US. THEN WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ONE CONTRACT

MOVING FORWARD. >> MATTA MAYOR, QUICK QUESTION.

DO YOU WANT TO ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS DURING THE

PRESENTATION? >> IS THERE MORE PRESENTATION? WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE SITE AND INFRASTRUCTURE TO MAKE SURE

THAT WE HAVE ADDRESSED THAT. >> I WILL CUT TO THE CHASE.

WHAT I AM GETTING FROM THE COMMENTS IS THAT THE DELAY OF INFRASTRUCTURE ON YOUR SITE IS CAUSED BY THE CITIES INERTIA IN GETTING THEIR PROJECT UNDERWAY. A, IF WE CHOSE NOT TO WORK FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT I DO NOT KNOW THE EFFECTS ON YOU. WE ARE AWARE OF THE EFFECTS OF HOW GOVERNMENT WORKS AT A SLOWER PACE THAN THE PRIVATE SECTOR. THAT IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE THROUGHOUT THE UNIVERSE. IT IS LETHARGIC BY DESIGN. THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PHASE ONE OF YOUR PROJECT HAS BEEN DELAYED DUE TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE REQUIREMENTS AND PROCESSES FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE. IS MY

IMPRESSION CORRECT? >> I WOULD NOT CHARACTERIZE IT AS THAT. WITH THE NEW SEWER PROJECT, THE NEW INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT WE WOULD BE TYING INTO HAS A CHANGE. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIMING THAT IT ALL IS TAKING PLACE. ALL THE SUDDEN WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT WE WERE PLANNING ON TYING INTO AND NOW IT NEEDS TO CHANGE. THAT WAS THE CARD. AFTER OUR PLANS WERE DONE AND I REMOVED MYSELF FROM THE ONGOING WORK WITH THE CITY.

I CANNOT TELL YOU WHETHER THERE ARE MORE CHANGES OR HOW I WENT FROM JULY AND AUGUST TO A GOING OUT IN JANUARY. I DON'T

HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OF THAT. >> LET'S ASSUME THAT THE CITY'S CAUSE OF ACTION IS DELAYED ON THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE. IT HAS DIRECT LINKAGE TO BEING ABLE TO EXECUTE YOUR OBLIGATIONS UNDER THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND AS A SECOND PIECE OF THAT QUESTION, THEN I'M GOOD FOR NOW, YOU ARE INDICATING TO ME , JUST SO THAT WE HAVE THIS CLEAR, ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE ON THIS SITE, NONE OF THIS COULD MOVE FORWARD DUE TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE ACTIONS TO MOVE THEIR PORTION FORWARD ON INDIAN RIVER DRIVE.

MI CLEARLY UNDERSTANDING THAT?

>> NOT COMPLETELY. WE CAN DO PART OF A BILL WE CAN END UP DOING IT. UNTIL YOUR PLAN IS COMPLETELY DONE AND BID OUT AND READY TO GO. FOR US TO BE PLANNING ON CONNECTING WOULD

BE NEGLIGENT TO SOME DEGREE. >> MY QUESTION HAS BEEN

ANSWERED. THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS

POINT? >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CIVIL PORTION OF THE PROJECT. YOU HAVE A LOOPED WATER MAINS SYSTEM FROM SECOND STREET TO INDIAN RIVER DRIVE. YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE PARAMETERS OF HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND THE

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CIVIL ENGINEERING FIRM HAS COMPLETED THEIR DESIGN. ARE ALL

THE PERMITS COMPLETE? >> YES SIR. WE HAVE SIDE

PERMITS. YES SIR. >> WE HAVE DEP FOR WATER AND

SEWER. >> WE WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE APPROVAL PROCESS AND ONCE THAT WAS APPROVED WE WENT IN IMMEDIATELY FOR THE SITE WORK PERMITS WHICH WAS ISSUED. WE START OUT WITH CITY STAFF BEFORE WE BRING THIS IN THE SIDE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

>> THANK YOU. THOSE ARE HURDLES IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. I JUST WROTE DOWN THE THREE. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE. THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO TURN IT O■VER OR NOT, YOU ARE PUTTING THE SHOVEL IN THE GROUND FOR A LITTLE WHILE. WHAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS CAUSING THE HICK UP? IS IT A WATER MAIN?

>> IT IS THE SEWER. WATER IS UNDER PRESSURE. I CAN ROUTE THAT. IT IS SEWER. OBVIOUSLY, IT IS GRAVITY UNTIL IT IS AT THE LIFT STATION. ULTIMATELY, GRAVITY IS GOING AROUND. YOU HAVE DRAINAGE THAT IS ON SITE AND ALSO ADJACENT TO THE SITE AND THAT ALL TIES TOGETHER. THOSE ARE ELEVATION TYPE THINGS

AND LOCATION TYPE THINGS. >> GOES TO THE PUMP STATION

GOING OFF-SITE. >> I DON'T KNOW THAT OFF THE

TOP OF MY HEAD. >> THOSE ARE THE INTEGRAL PARTS OF THE PIECES OF THE CONVERSATION. WE HAVE AN AGENDA THAT WE WILL DISCUSS AT SOME POINT AND GET FURTHER QUESTIONS AS YOU MOVE THROUGH THE PRESENTATION AND GET THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED. I WANT A GOOD GRASP ON THAT UTILITY OF

THE STRUCTURE POINT. >> PEOPLE WANT TO SEE IT GO UP, WE WANT TO SEE IT GO UP BEFORE GOES UP, WE HAVE TO GO DOWN.

THIS IS A LOT MORE THAN ANYBODY BARGAINED FOR. NOW IT IS DON.

NOW WE ARE AT THAT JUNCTURE WHERE WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT THREE OR FOUR TIMES. WE WILL STOP WITH WHAT THE UTILITY IS DOING AND DO THIS ONE TIME AND IF IT TAKES ANOTHER FEW MONTHS TO GET IT RIGHT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. WE HAVE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY THAT WE DID NOT THINK WE WERE GOING TO SPEND GETTING THE

SITE TO WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW. >> WHAT ABOUT ELECTRIC INFRASTRUCTURE. A LOT OF TIMES THE PROJECT IS DELAYED BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE FEEDERS OFF OF TRANSMISSION

OVER TO A PROJECT. >> FROM THE ELECTRIC STANDPOINT THE UTILITY COMPANY HAS BEEN -- THAT IS ONE ITEM I AM NOT WORRIED FOR AT THIS STANDPOINT. THERE IS THE SHIFTING OF THE ONE MAIN THAT IS BY THE BRIDGE.

>> THE EASTERN ONE. THAT IS WHERE THE ACTUAL MAIN IS CUTTING ACROSS THE PROJECT. THOSE WILL BE REROUTED TO HELP

ELIMINATE PART OF THE EASEMENT. >> THE EASEMENT THAT IS ON THE

PARCEL? >> CORRECT.

>> IS PART OF THE EASEMENT UNDERNEATH OR ON TOP OF THE BOUNDARY OF A FOOTPRINT OF A FOUNDATION?

>> THAT HAS ALL BEEN WORKED OUT. I THINK THEY ARE READY TO GO. THEY INDICATED THAT UNLIKE OTHER UTILITY DEPARTMENTS THAT WE DEAL WITH, YOUR UTILITY DEPARTMENT IS EXTREMELY WELL

ORGANIZED. >> I AM SITTING BY A FRIENDLY BOARD MEMBER RIGHT HERE. THEY HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL.

>> THAT IS WHAT I NEEDED. THANK YOU.

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE FP UA. I HAVE LISTENED TO THIS AND THE

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PART THAT I FOCUSED IN ON WAS THAT THEY PUT OUT THEIR BID AND THEY GOT IT BACK IN FEBRUARY. I DO NOT KNOW.

>> THE ONLINE BID THING, THAT IS UNDER REVIEW.

>> NOT ASKING THEM TO DISCLOSE WHAT THEIR PROCESS IS. ARE THESE COMPANIES ALIGNING? WHEN YOU WENT OUT TO ASK YOUR WORK TO BE BID OUT, VERSUS WHO HAS RESPONDED TO THEM?

>> SOME OF THEM ARE IN COMMON. WE HAVE INDICATED THAT IF YOU ELECT TO USE A DIFFERENT SUBCONTRACT, WITHIN TWO WEEKS OR SO, THEY CAN TURN MINE AROUND. THE WHOLE IDEA WAS THE CONTINUITY OF ONE SINGLE SOURCE RESPONSIBILITY.

>> MY FOCUS IS REAL SIMPLE. GIVE ME AN IDEA. CAN YOU GIVE

ME AN IDEA? >> IT IS AT LEAST THREE.

>> TWO OTHER ONES BID YOU ALL THAT HAVE NOT BID US.

>> YOU HAVE THREE IN COMMON BETWEEN YOUR COMPANY?

>> THANK YOU. >> IS THAT A UA PROJECT?

>> I THOUGHT IT WAS UA. THANK YOU.

>> SOMEWHERE IN THERE, YOU SAID THAT YOU HAD TO REWORK SOMETHING BECAUSE OF THE RELOCATION OF THE WASTEWATER

TREATMENT PLANT. >> PART OF UPPING THE SIZE WITH SOME OF THE PIPES WAS DUE TO THAT. I AM NOT AN ENGINEER.

THAT IS WHAT THE ENGINEERS WERE TELLING US.

>> YOU ARE SAYING THAT HAD TO BE REWORKED?

>> THEY DID IN THE PLANNING STAGE. THAT IS WHY YOU ALL USE THE SAME ENGINEERS THAT WE DID. THEY WERE ALREADY INTO IT. WE WERE ALREADY MAKING THOSE CHANGES ON YOUR BEHALF. NOW SINCE YOU ARE GETTING PAID FROM THE STATE TO DO IT AND YOU PUT IT OUT TO BID AND I CANNOT GO ON YOUR LAND AND YOU CANNOT GO

ON MY LAND. >> IT IS PROBABLY IMPORTANT. I WAS WALKING PAST AFTER THE GOVERNOR WAS IN TOWN PRESENTING A CHECK TO YOU. SOMEONE WAS HAVING A CONVERSATION AND SAID THE DEVELOPER WALKED OFF WITH $2.7 MILLION. IT WENT TO THE CITY. WE HAVE NOT SEEN A DIME OF IT. JUST TO BE CLEAR. ALL THE MONEY WE SPENT ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS OUT OF THE BANK OF DALE. NOT DESANTIS. SORRY.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY?

>> WE WERE TALKING ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE. WE DO HAVE A CITY ENGINEER WHO IS HERE IF YOU WANT TO HAVE HIM PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE ACTUAL ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT GRANT THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA THEN THE CITY ENGINEER IS PREPARED TO DO SO.

>> I'M GLAD THAT YOU MADE THAT DISTINCTION. 2.7 MILLION WAS FOR A BIGGER PROJECT THAN KING'S LANDING. IT WAS FOR THAT AREA, THE ROADWAY IN CONJUNCTION WITH IT.

>> RIVER DRIVE? >> CORRECT. IN THE MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE HAD WITH EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY HAS BEEN VERY GOOD AND HAS BEEN WORKING TOGETHER.

>> GOOD. >> THE INFRASTRUCTURE QUESTIONS IN MY MIND IS SPECIFICALLY, JACK'S INFORMATION WILL GO SPECIFICALLY INTO TIMELINES THAT THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO GET INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE RIGHT. I WANT TO HEAR FROM JACK REALISTICALLY. WE ARE AT 30% DESIGN CAPACITY AT THIS JUNCTURE. IF THE ARGUMENT IS THAT THIS IS HINGED ON CITY IMPROVEMENTS AND THIS IS WHAT I AM TAKING AWAY FROM THE CONVERSATION. JACK'S INFORMATION IS CRITICAL.

>> MR. ANDREWS, YOU ARE UP. >> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.

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WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE 2.7 IS KIND OF SPLIT IN THREE DIFFERENT WAYS. THERE IS THE INDIAN RIVER DRIVE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION AND THEN THERE WAS 700,000 THAT WAS SET ASIDE FOR THE UTILITY UPGRADES AND THE ELECTRIC RELOCATION. I TRY TO GET EVERYTHING SO I CAN EXPLAIN IT TO YOU. THIS WAS FOR THE ELECTRIC THAT THE UA IS HANDLING. THE OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH IS THE WATER AND SEWER THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. IT WAS FOR THE OFF-SITE OF KING'S LANDING.

THAT WOULD BE UPGRADES ON AVENUE B, ON INDIAN RIVER DRIVE, IN THAT VICINITY. THOSE PLANS WERE COMPLETED BY FPUA.

THE UA WENT OUT THERE AND GOT THAT IN FEBRUARY. THEY ARE STILL EVALUATING THOSE PRICES. IT IS THE INTENTION THAT THEY WILL PROCEED WITH THAT AHEAD OF THE ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION. WE WANT THOSE UTILITIES TO BE COMPLETED BEFORE WE COME AND DO ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION. WE HAVE BEEN HAVING COORDINATION MEETINGS WITH THE UA AND THEIR CONSULTANT AND OUR CONSULTANT SO THAT WE CAN GET ALL OF THAT TOGETHER. OUR PLANS ARE CURRENTLY AT 60% DESIGN PLANS. THEIR PLANS WILL BE FINISHED IN AUGUST WE ANTICIPATE ONGOING DIRECTLY OUT FOR BID.

MY INTENTION IS THAT THE FPUA WILL HAVE THE UPGRADE FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE UTILITIES COMPLETED THE HAVE FINISHED THE ROADWAY CONSTRUCTION. THAT IS HOW WE ARE PROCEEDING WITH

EVERYTHING. >> QUESTIONS FOR MR. ANDERSON? VALUABLE INFORMATION. WE WILL GO BACK THROUGH AUGUST FOR THE BIDDING PROCEDURE. WE ARE LOOKING AT YEAR-END FOR 2024 REALISTICALLY FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO COMMENCE. THAT IS THE REASONABLE ASSESSMENT. YOU WILL UNDERSTAND BY NEXT QUESTION. THE FOLLOW-UP TO THAT IS IN THE KING'S LANDING PROJECT AGREEMENTS, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE BE COMPLETED BY 2026. BACKING THOSE DATES DOWN, THIS IS THE CORE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE. PERMITTING FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR PHASE TWO WILL BE SUBMITTED NEXT MONTH.

SECONDARILY, CONSTRUCTION OF PHASE TWO WHICH IS VERTICAL IS SUPPOSED TO COMMENCE IN JUNE. THAT IS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THAT IS NOT A FICTITIOUS DATE THAT I AM PULLING OUT OF THIN AIR. MY QUESTION, JACK, IS THAT IF THERE IS NO INFRASTRUCTURE COMPLETED AND ALL INFRASTRUCTURE IS WAITING ON THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FOR WHAT WE WILL DO BY THE END OF 2024, CAN CONSTRUCTION OF PHASE TWO, KENNY REALISTICALLY BEGIN, IF INSTRUMENT -- INFRASTRUCTURE IS NEEDED, CAN CONSTRUCTION IN YOUR OPINION START? WHICH IS THE JUNE TIMELINE. JUNE OF 24.

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>> FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE UA IS ANTICIPATING STARTING WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES SOON. THEY HAVE THE BID AND THEY HAVE THE MONEY. THAT IS PART OF THE GRANT THAT CONSTRUCTION BEGINS WITHIN A YEAR OF WHEN THIS AGREEMENT WAS SIGNED. TO MEET THAT, THE UA NEEDS TO GO AHEAD AND ISSUE THIS CONSTRUCTION. THEY COULD GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE UNDERWAY. THE ROADWAY IS NOT HOLDING UP ANYONE, THE UA WILL

START THE UTILITY WORK. >> WHAT I AM INTERPRETING FOR THAT, THANK YOU FOR THAT VALUABLE INFORMATION. PHASE TWO OF THE KING'S LANDING PROJECT WHICH IS A JUNE TIMELINE CAN'T REALLY COMMENCE WITHOUT THE UA COMPLETING INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND FOR THEM TO TIE INTO BASED ON THE THEORY INDICATING THAT THESE DELAYS ARE CAUSED BY THE INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIREMENTS BY THE CITY. IS THAT A FAIR WAY TO

LOOK AT THIS? >> YES. THERE COULD BE SOME WORK DONE ON SITE. AT THE KING'S LANDING SITE. I APPRECIATE THAT WE NEED TO TIE INTO IT. WE HAVE MADE SOME POINTS. AS FAR AS THE ELEVATIONS, WE CAN'T BE THAT

FAR OFF. >> THANK YOU, VERY HELPFUL,

JACK, THANK YOU. >> JACK , I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE. I WAS TRYING TO WRITE NOTES. WE HAVE INDIAN

RIVER DRIVE AND WHAT? >> THE DESIGN OF THE ROAD IS ONE PHASE. THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROAD AND THE STRUCTURE UPGRADES. THAT WAS THE THREE ELEMENTS OF THE GRANT.

>> THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS 700 OF ELECTRIC?

>> IT WAS SPECIFIC TO ELECTRIC RIGHT?

>> THAT WAS WATER, SEWER, ELECTRIC.

>> THERE ARE VAST DIFFERENCES THERE. THAT WAS KIND OF THE REASON THAT I ASKED THE QUESTION EARLIER. THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT, YOU LOOKED AT THE DESIGN WITH STAFF DURING THE PLANNING PROCESS. THAT IS A PRESSURIZED SYSTEM. OUTSIDE OF THE STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE. WE ARE ON SITE.

>> STORM WATER ON THE KING'S LANDING SITE?

>> ECHOES INTO THE RETENTION AREA IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER.

>> HOW ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE ON SECOND STREET? WHEN IT COMES TO SECOND STREET AND THE INDIAN RIVER DRIVE STORMWATER, WHAT

DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR YOU? >> SECOND STREET WILL NOT CHANGE. PARKINS AVENUE WILL CHANGE. WE ARE ADDING SOME DRAINAGE AROUND THERE. WE WILL ALSO HAVE PAVERS FOR THE PARKING AREA WHICH WILL HELP WITH THE WATER QUALITY. MOST OF IT IS EXISTING FOR HOW IT FALLS TO THE RIVER.

>> OKAY. AS WE HAVE HEARD TODAY, WE HAVE A LOT TO TALK ABOUT ON THE SUBJECT. LOOKING AT IT FROM THE NARROW FOCUS OF

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PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING THERE ARE A LOT OF GETTY ARMS FROM THIS PROJECT SITE. IT COMES WITH FUNDING AND CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES. HAS THERE BEEN ENOUGH COORDINATION BETWEEN ALL OF THE ENTITIES WORKING ON THE PROJECT?

>> I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE COORDINATED, YES. WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE FPUA AND HAVE HAD DIFFERENT DESIGN MEETINGS WITH THEM WITH THEIR DESIGN ENGINEERS AND WITH OURS.

WE ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO GET THIS

COMPLETED. >> DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR JACK. DO NOT GO AWAY IN CASE WE MIGHT HAVE MORE. MR. MADISON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO ON TO YOUR NEXT TOPIC? OR GO INTO ANYTHING THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID?

>> WE ARE TRYING TO WORK AND COORDINATE. THIS IS BIG. WERE TRYING TO GET IT RIGHT. YOU MAY RECALL. TIME IS A BLUR. WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PARKING ISSUES. PARKING IS A PROBLEM NO MATTER WHERE. PARKING IS A PROBLEM. I HEARD AS RECENTLY AS FRIDAY THAT THE NOTION TO ELIMINATE THE PARKING IN FRONT OF KING'S LANDING ON INDIAN RIVER DRIVE END UP AVENUE B.

THE ANGLED PARKING IS VERY VALUABLE. IS THAT REALLY NECESSARY? IT IS FRIGHTENING AS RECENTLY AS LAST FRIDAY, THAT WAS A PHONE CALL I GOT THAT SAID, CAN WE DO THAT? I DO NOT KNOW IF I HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SAY IF YOU CAN OR YOU CAN'T. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S NEEDED. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE ALL STRIVE VERY HARD FOR PARKING. AND TO MAKE THIS A VILLAGE TYPE FEEL WITH TRAFFIC CALMING EFFECTS ON INDIAN RIVER DRIVE AND IF WE WIPE OUT ALL OF THE PARKING IN FRONT OF KING'S LANDING AND UP AVENUE B , FROM AN UNEDUCATED PERSON, THAT IS A BAD MOVE. THERE MIGHT BE ENGINEERING REASONS FOR WHY THAT IS A GOOD MOVE. FROM OUR DESIGN, IT IS NOT GOOD. IT IS DYNAMIC. IT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS. WE HAVE THIS NAILED DOWN? CAN WE NOT AGREE THAT THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO. THERE ARE A LOT OF SPAGHETTI ARMS COMING OUT OF THIS THING. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO NAIL IT ALL DOWN. WE ARE TRYING. THAT IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE RECENT PIECES OF SPAGHETTI.

ANYTHING ELSE ON INFRASTRUCTURE? SIGH WORK?

>> PROBABLY BUT NOT RIGHT DOWN.

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE HOTEL. THAT IS A BIG ISSUE HERE. IN JUNE OF LAST YEAR, WE SIGNED THE EXCLUSIVE DEAL WITH MAINSAIL WHO IS THE HOTEL FRANCHISEE THAT WE SELECTED AND WE LIKE THEIR PRODUCT. IT IS CALLED THE MARRIOTT TRIBUTE HOTEL AND IT CAN TAKE ON THE PERSONALITY OF THE TOWN AND LOCATION IT IS IN. WE SIGNED AN EXCLUSIVE DEAL WITH MAINSAIL TO FUND THE FINANCING OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT. THEY SAID THEY DO THIS ALL THE TIME. WE HAVE CONTACTS. WE WOULD LIKE THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS TO BE YOUR PARTNER IN A BIGGER WAY THAN JUST THE HOTEL. I SAID, THAT WILL BE GREAT. WE INVITE THAT.

JOE COLLIER AND I SIGNED THE CONTRACT THAT HE HAD SIX MONTHS TO DO THIS. IT DID NOT HAPPEN. THE INTEREST RATES WHEN WE STARTED TALKING -- REMEMBER THAT INTEREST RATES ARE DIFFERENT FOR COMMERCIAL THAN HOMEOWNER. WHEN HOMEOWNERS ARE GETTING 3%, COMMERCIAL IS 5% OR 6%. WHEN WE STARTED KING'S

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LANDING AND DISCUSSIONS OF ALL THIS STUFF, INTEREST RATES WERE ABOUT 5%. IT IS SECURED OVERNIGHT. IT IS 12% INTEREST RATES. WHEN YOU GO FROM 5% TO 13% THAT MAKES IT VERY HARD TO MAKE THESE PROJECTS MAKE SENSE. JOE COLLIER SAID THAT I AM HAVING A HARD TIME MAKING THIS WORK AT 12%. ON TOP OF THAT, THERE ARE PEOPLE CHASING MONEY AND THE FINANCERS HAVE A LOT OF CHOICE OUT THERE AND THEY DON'T CARE IF IT IS FORT PIERCE OR WEST PALM OR SEATTLE. THEY ARE JUST TAKING THE BEST DEAL IN THE BEST MARKET. HE SAID THAT HE IS STRUGGLING TO RAISE THE MONEY TO MAKE THIS WORK. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO BE REALISTIC AND REALIZE THAT THE MARKET GOES UP AND DOWN. WHAT WORKED IN 2019 DOES NOT WORK IN 2024. IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT CAME GOOD OUT OF THE BRIGHT LINE DEAL STUDY, IT IS THAT WE GOT MORE ASSOCIATION WITH INDIAN RIVER STATE COLLEGE. WE HAD BEEN DOING SOME THINGS WITH INDIAN RIVER STATE COLLEGE. WE HAVE A RESTAURANT IN KINGS LANDING THAT WAS PART OF THE CULINARY PROGRAM. WE GET INTRODUCED TO THAT. ALONG THE WAY OF DEVELOPING THE HOTEL BRAND AND WHAT WE CAN DO WITH MARRIOTT , KENNY, CAN YOU PULL UP ONE OF THESE PHOTOS HERE.

THAT ONE. YEAH. WHILE WE WERE WORKING ON THE BRIGHT LINE PROPOSAL, WE GOT MORE ALIGNED WITH INDIAN RIVER STATE COLLEGE. WE ACQUIRED THE COAST GUARD HOUSE FROM THEM AND WE WILL TURN THAT INTO A BED AND BREAKFAST AND EVENT SPACE AND WEDDING VENUE FOR THE HOTEL AT KINGS LANDING. IF YOU SLIDE THROUGH THESE PHOTOS. I WILL NOT SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON IT.

THE OUTSIDE OF THIS HOUSE WILL STAY THE SAME. THE INSIDE WILL CHANGE DRAMATICALLY. THE FIRST SLIDE IS THE BASEMENT WHICH WILL BE A BOURBON AND CIGAR BAR. THEN YOU GO TO THE SECOND FLOOR AND IT IS OPEN FOR EVENTS AND WEDDINGS AND ACTIVITIES AND YOU GO TO THE TOP FLOOR IN THE SECOND FLOOR IS TWO SEPARATE SUITES. THEY HAVE KITCHENETTES AND THEY ARE SELF-CONTAINED. IT IS ONE GIANT SUITE. THE SECOND FLOOR IS THE ADMIRAL SUITE. IT CAN BE RENTED FOR A WEDDING PARTY. AND TO ACTIVATE THAT HOUSE. IT ALSO HAS REPAIRING RIGHTS AND WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS THE DARK THAT WE HAVE DESIGNED THAT GOES INTO THE INLET. THERE ARE 20 SPACES OUT THERE. IT IS 70 FEET TO ACCEPT THE WATER TAXI FROM DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE. ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN DESIGNED. THE DOCK HAS BEEN SUBMITTED FOR PERMIT TO TALLAHASSEE. ALL OF THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON WHEN WE ARE WORKING WITH MARRIOTT AND THE HOTEL TO USE THIS AS A REAL GEM THAT WILL SET FORT PIERCE APART. WE ARE WORKING WITH INDIAN RIVER STATE COLLEGE. I EXPLAINED TO THEM THAT THE HOTEL PARTNER IS STUMBLING. SHE SAID THAT WE LIKE WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND WE ARE INTERESTED IN EXPANDING THE HOSPITALITY

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PROGRAM. WE MIGHT WANT TO BE YOUR HOTEL PARTNER. WE WILL TURN INTO SOME KIND OF TRAINING COMPONENT, WE WOULD BE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. WE CONTACTED MARRIOTT CORPORATE. A FEW WEEKS AGO THEY FLEW INTO TOWN. THEY GAVE US A PRESENTATION ABOUT 16 DIFFERENT MARRIOTT'S THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH HIGHER EDUCATION. HOW THEY RUN THE HOTEL IN TANDEM WITH THE TEACHING COMPONENT. WE THINK THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.

THE REASON THAT IS SO IMPORTANT IN THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE ARE AT NOW, IS THAT 12% MONEY IS WHAT THE MAINSAIL CAN GET.

INDIAN RIVER STATE COLLEGE CAN GET INSTITUTIONAL MONEY AT 4% AND 5% RIGHT NOW. 5% MONEY MAKES THE DEAL WORK. IT IS BETTER THAN THAT. IT EXPANDS THE FOOTPRINT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND GIVES THEM A HOTEL IN THE CENTER OF THE ACTIVITY IN FORT PIERCE AND CONNECT THEM TO MARRIOTT IN A CORPORATE AWAY AND THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED THREE FRANCHISES, TWO ARE NEW. THEY ARE BIGGER. ONE IS CALLED CONCORDE AND THEY MANAGE A HOTEL CALLED THE BEND. THEY WON HOTEL OF THE YEAR FOR MARRIOTT. THAT IS ONE FRANCHISE THEY HAVE RECOMMENDED THAT WE PARTNER WITH. THE NEXT ONE IS DAVIDSON. THEY ARE MUCH BIGGER THAN MAINSAIL. MAINSAIL HAS CIRCLED BACK AND WOULD LIKE TO BE CONSIDERED A FRANCHISEE FOR THIS CONCEPT. THEY DO HAVE A PLAN. I WILL FUMBLE FLORIDA STATE OR FLORIDA COLLEGE. IT IS GOING VERY SLOW AND IS NOT IN PLAY YET. DAVIDSON STILL HAS TEACHING COMPONENTS WITH HOTEL PRODUCTS. IF THERE IS ANYTHING GOOD THAT CAME OUT OF THE BRIGHT LINE DRILL THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT WE COULD DO GREAT THINGS FOR THE STUDENTS AT THAT SCHOOL AND PROVIDE THEM WORKFORCE OPPORTUNITIES AND EDUCATION EXPANDING THE INDIAN RIVER STATE COLLEGE FOOTPRINT TO GET ACCESS TO MONEY THAT MAKES THE HOTEL MAKE SENSE. IT IS STILL MARRIOTT AND NO ONE WILL KNOW IT IS A TEACHING HOTEL. THAT IS JUST ART OF THE PROGRAM. INDIAN RIVER STATE COLLEGE BOARD A MONTH OR TWO AGO APPROVED THEM TO GO FORWARD IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH A HOTEL CONCEPT AND THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS IS ALREADY APPROVED SEEKING AND NEGOTIATING THIS KIND OF CONCEPT OUT. THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT WILL BE THIS SITE.

THEY CAN DO IT ON THEIR SITE AND THE BOARD HAS ALREADY AGREED TO THE CONCEPT. AND THE NEGOTIATIONS OF A HOTEL. IN THIS DIFFICULT ENVIRONMENT FINANCIALLY, EVERYONE IS STRUGGLING BUT WE HAVE FOUND A PATH FORWARD WITH OUR HOTEL.

MAINSTAY STILL WANTS TO BE INVOLVED. I THINK THAT THEIR HOTELS ARE WONDERFUL. OUR NEXT STEP IS THE NEXT WEEK MAINSAIL IS GOING TO COME IN. THEN IT WILL BE DAVIDSON AND CONCORDE.

THEN WE'LL HAVE AN IDEA ON WHICH FRANCHISEE WE WILL USE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. YOU HAVE TO BUILD THE CONCEPT OR THE BOX OR THE PLAN FOR INDIAN RIVER STATE COLLEGE BOARD TO LESS WITH WHAT FINANCIALLY IS INVOLVED. IT WILL TAKE SOME WORK. WE THINK WE HAVE A PLAN AND WE ARE PLEASED THAT INDIAN RIVER STATE

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COLLEGE IS ON BOARD WITH A HOSPITALITY PROGRAM. MARRIOTT CORPORATE HAS 16 CONCEPTS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT AND MODEL. THIS IS NOT A NEW OR NOVEL IDEA. IT IS FOR US. IT SOLVES A LOT OF PROBLEMS AND GETS US WHERE WE WANT TO GO. ABSENT THAT, THE MARKET IS GETTING BETTER. THE RATES ARE NOT AS HARD AS THEY WERE. WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE WORST INTEREST RATES IN 23 YEARS. THERE WERE 11 INTEREST RATE RISES IN RECENT MEMORY THEY ARE GOING TO START GOING DOWN AND THE WIND WILL BE AT OUR BACK IN THAT RESPECT. WE LIKE THIS IDEA OF PARTNERING WITH INDIAN RIVER STATE COLLEGE GAINING INSTITUTIONAL MONEY WITH HALF THE RATES THAT WE CAN GET ON THE INSTITUTIONAL SIDE.

AND THE COAST GUARD HOUSES AS THE CHERRY ON TOP. LET'S TALK MORE ABOUT THE HOTEL AND I WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS IN

REGARDS TO THAT. >> QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HOTEL.

MR. GAINES. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. DO YOU HAVE ANY EXAMPLES OF THE OTHER 16 PROPERTIES OR HOTELS THAT WE CAN GO LOOK AT TO SEE? THEN WE CAN PUT OUR EYES ON AND SEE.

JUST SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PUT OUR EYES ON TO SEE SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN NO -- TO LOOK AT THE FORT MEYERS LUMINAIRE, THAT IS WHAT WE PUT OUT. THAT IS WHAT THE PUBLIC IS WAITING FOR. I LIKE TO SEE WITH THIS NEW CONCEPT WHERE I AM FEELING THE NEW CONCEPT. ANY TIME THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THE COLLEGE ON THE KIDS I AM ALL FOR THAT, THAT IS THE FIRST THING. LET ME PUT MY EYES ON SOMETHING AND SEE.

>> MARRIOTT OR BRITT CAME TO TOWN AND THEY GAVE US A PRESENTATION ABOUT THESE. THEY DO NOT SAY TEACHING HOTEL.

THEY ARE ALIGNED WITH THE SCHOOLS. I WILL SEND YOU THE DECK AND HAS ALL THE HOTELS AND SCHOOLS THAT THEY ARE ALIGNED WITH. THERE IS ONE IN NORTHERN FLORIDA YOU WERE GOING TO GO.

>> THAT IS THE REASON I ASK. >> THERE IS ONE VERY CLOSE TO

HERE. >> SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS LIKE TO TRAVEL. IF WE KNEW SOME OF THE PLACES, I WOULD TRY TO STAY AT ONE TO SEE FOR MYSELF.

>> THERE ARE THREE IN FLORIDA.

>> THAT IS EXACTLY WHERE I WAS GOING TO GO.

>> I DID NOT KNOW THAT WE HAD THAT.

>> I WOULD NOT BE GOING TO THAT ONE. SEND ME THE OTHER TWO.

>> YOU CAN PICK YOUR POISON. >> THERE ARE SOME BIG ONES.

WHILE WE HAVE ESTABLISHED IS THAT IT NEEDS TO BE A TRIBUTE.

WE KNOW THE MODEL THAT WE WANT FROM WHAT WE HAVE SEEN. WE HAVE TRADED UP AND WE WILL NOT TRADE BACK DOWN. WHERE CAN WE SEE THE TRIBUTE HOTEL THAT IS ALIGNED WITH HIGHER EDUCATION THAT IS A TEACHING HOTEL PROVIDING WORKFORCE OPPORTUNITIES AND EDUCATION ALL AT THE SAME TIME AND GIVES US ACCESS TO COMMERCIAL INSTITUTIONAL MONEY.

>> I'M GLAD THAT YOU SAID WHAT YOU SAID. WE ARE NOT LOOKING TO STEP DOWN. WE WANT TO START WHERE WE WERE AND GIVE THE RESIDENCE WHAT WE SAID WE WOULD WHEN WE STARTED THIS. I KNOW WE ARE IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THIS HOTEL. WILL THAT DELAY ANYTHING IN YOUR MIND? THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO HEAR ABOUT. HOW FAR

DOES THAT DELAY US OUT? >> IT IS TOUGH I HAVE SOMETHING I NEED TO ASK THIS QUESTION. I'VE BEEN AT IT FOR A MINUTE. I LISTEN TO THE COMMISSIONER, JOHNSON. AND RODERICK WHO ARE CONSTRUCTION GUYS IN ENGINEERS AND BUILDERS,

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ET CETERA. WHAT'S TROUBLING ME RIGHT NOW QUITE FRANKLY.

HEAR THAT WE ARE WAITING ON THESE TIES AND CONNECTION, ET CETERA. SOMETHING HE BROUGHT UP THAT RESONATES IN MY MIND.

IT'LL TAKE MILES UPON MILES UPON MILES OF BLUE-GREEN, WHATEVER PIPE BUT A FREEBIE USED TO RUN THE ONE SYSTEM WE RUN COME SEWAGE, ET CETERA. WHERE ARE WE IN GETTING THOSE ACTUAL MATERIALS ON SITE? ALTHOUGH I HEAR YOU'RE NOT DIGGING IN THE DIRT YET. IN MY OPINION. THAT IS WHAT YOU DO.

DIG IN THE DIRT TO PUT PIPES DOWN AND CONNECTED HERE. WHERE IS THAT? THAT'S A CLEAR SIGNAL WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WHEN PEOPLE START SEEING DELIVERY TRUCKS FULL OF BLUE PIPE AND GREEN PIPE CONCRETE CONDUITS THAT TIED TO THE SYSTEM. MAYBE NOT THE BACK HOLDER AS I'M SURE YOU HAVE TO RENT IT AND IT TAKES SOME TIME. IF IT 60 DAYS, IT'S NOT WORKING OR DOING WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO DO. THAT IS HOW WE LOOK AT THIS FROM A BUSINESS PROJECT MANAGEMENT SENSE. THAT IS A CONCERN. I DON'T WANT TO GET US HERE AND WE HAD THE DELAY ON GETTING PIPING. AS THE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES. I NEED HELP UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE MAKING DECISIONS FROM THE PRESSURE COMING TO US. WE HAVE A CONTRACT NOW WE WILL HAVE SERIOUS DISCUSSIONS WITH LEGAL. I NEED TO COME IN GOOD FAITH, LOOK AT IT TO SAY, I FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH FORWARD.

HE SACRIFICED A LOT. IN MONEY YOU INVESTED. WE ARE SACRIFICING MONEY AND TIME AND WHAT WE BUILT FOR OUR COMMUNITY. YOU'RE ASKING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE FAT. I'M ASKING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE. WERE THE PIPES IN THE KIND WITH

AND WHERE THE TRACTORS. >> ONCE THE CONTRACT AND SUBCONTRACT ARE ISSUED, WE ARE TURNING AROUND SUBMITTALS AND ALL OF THAT. IF YOU LOOK ON THE WEST SIDE OF SECOND STREET, WE RELOCATED ONE OF OUR MAIN OFFICE. YOU KNOW. MOBILE OFFICES. WE HAVE ELECTRICS TRYING TO GET AS TEMPORARY POWER. THE WHOLE IDEA IS, AS FAR AS THE QUESTION ABOUT STAGING. OUR PLAN IS TO STAGE ON THE WEBSITE THERE. TAKE THAT WHOLE AREA. AND USE IT FOR STAGING FOR BOTH US AND HOPEFULLY THE SAME CONTRACTOR. THAT IS THE INTENSE. WE HAVE ACTUALLY, TRIED TO MOBILIZE AND WE'VE GOT THE PERMIT BUT THE TEMPORARY TRAILER IN. PASS BEEN WORKING WITH THE ELECTRICAL. TO GET A TEMPORARY POWER AND. THE COMMUNICATION GUIDE WAS BRINGING STARLING FOR ACTUAL COMMUNICATION. FOR THE WIRELESS AND PHONES AND STUFF.

>> IT IS ONGOING. >> SO, THE PIPES AND ALL OF THAT STUFF WILL BE STAGED ON THE WEST. WHERE WE IN THAT

PROCESS? >> UNTIL WE SIGN THE

CONTRACTS. WITH THE STUBS. >> THAT IS CORRECT. AS SOON AS YOU ALL , WE DON'T HAVE TO. WE DID THIS. WE DID IT SO THAT, AGAIN, OUT OF CHINA MAKE SURE THAT THE PROCESS WAS SMOOTH AS POSSIBLE. TWO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I WANT TO MAKE SURE. UTILITY GUYS ARE COMING DOWN AND SAYING, WAIT A SECOND.

HE THREW ME UNDER THE BUS. ALL ALONG, WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT PROBABLY TIGHTER IN A TIMEFRAME. ONE SINGLE SOURCE

IS ALWAYS BETTER. >> THAT IS MY APPROACH. THAT IS MY THOUGHTS. IT IS A SENTIMENT OF A LOT THAT IS WATCHING THIS MEETING. WE DO KNOW WHEN WE SEE STUFF MOVING AND WE SEE TRUCKS COMING AND GOING. THAT HAS BEEN A CONCERN. FACTORS INTO WHAT WE RECEIVED FROM PEOPLE. ASKING THIS. WHEN HE WAS TAKING OUT, THERE WAS MOVEMENT THERE. WE RECOGNIZE THAT. HE PUT SOME FEELING AND THEY SAW THAT. WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING IN THE PAST, GIVE A 3 TO 6 MONTHS. OFF OF MY TIMELINE. TO WRITE. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. THAT IS WHERE MY MIND IS THAT RIGHT NOW. WE WILL HAVE THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, YOU STATED WHAT YOU NEEDED TO SHARE ABOUT

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WHY WE ARE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. I GUESS WE WOULD DISCUSS WITH WE DO NEXT? FROM HERE. BECAUSE HE TOLD US WHY WE ARE AT WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW. AND I HEARD AND I UNDERSTAND IT AND I HAVE IT ALL WRITTEN DOWN FOR THE MOST PART ON SOME NOTES. WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? NEXT?

>> I AM DONE. >> I'VE SAID ENOUGH. I'M

GOOD. >> OKAY.

>> MR. --? BOTTOM CHAIR? MDM. CHAIR. YOU HAVE IN THE AGENDA, THE DEADLINES THAT EXIST. I CAN GO OVER THEM IF YOU WOULD

LIKE. >> I WOULD.

>> MARIAM WILL HELP ME PULL IT UP.

>> I PRINTED IT OUT. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

>> I PRINTED IT TO. BUT I CHANGED IT.

>> YOU CHANGED THE PAPER BUDGET?

>> GO TO SLIDE TWO, MARION. >> YOU HAVE THE DEADLINE FRONT

OF YOU. >> I'LL BE QUITE. ". GO

AHEAD, PROCEED. >> WHAT I HEARD TONIGHT. THERE ARE A FEW CONCERNS RELATED TO THE DEADLINE CLEAR IN THE CONTRACT. I'M HEARING FOR PHASE ONE IS NOT EXPECTED THE COMPLETION DATE OF FAIRBURY FIFTH, 2026 WILL BE MET. MAY BE MORE CONCERNING IS THE ADMISSION THAT THE MARCH 18 THE MARCH 18, 2024 PHASE TWO DEADLINE TO SUBMIT THE PERMIT WITH THE DPC ARE APPROVAL WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE DEADLINE MET. FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE NEED YOUR DIRECTION ON HOW YOU WOULD LIKE US TO PROCEED. WHETHER THAT IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONTRACT TO ALLOW FOR EXTENSIONS. OR WHEN THE DEADLINE IS MET. MISSED. ON MARCH 18. IF YOU CAN GO TO THE THIRD SLIDE. I APOLOGIZE, BEFORE THE FLIGHT. THAT EXPLAINS WHAT OUR RIGHTS ARE AT THE BOTTOM. HE'S GOING TO BE MARCH 18. THERE WILL BE DEFAULT. THE CITY HAS TO PROVIDE HIM A THIRTY-YEAR WRITTEN NOTICE OF THE DEFAULT.

HE HAS 30 DAYS TO CURE THAT IN THE CITY HAS TO NOT BE IN DEFAULT OR BREACH OF CONTRACT ITSELF. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER YOU WANT US TO PROCEED WITH THAT NOTICE OF DEFAULT OR PROCEED THROUGH WITH A DEFAULT. OR A BREACH OF CONTRACT. DO YOU WANT AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONTRACT TO EXTEND DEADLINES.

>> I WILL COMMENT ON THAT THAT THAT IS OKAY. COMMISSIONER

GAMES? >> HE LEANED FORWARD PRIOR TO

ME. >> HE ALREADY PUSHED ME BACK,

SO GO AHEAD. >> I DON'T BELIEVE THE TIMELINE HERE HAS BEEN, THANK YOU SARAH FOR POINTING IT OUT.

THE SECOND TIME I WILL BE MISSED WHICH I CONSIDER TO BE SUBSTANTIVE. THE PERMANENCE IS MARCH 18. IT IS PHASE TWO.

JUNE 16. THAT IS A SUBSTANTIVE MESS. THE PERMANENT ISSUE IS MORE TECHNICAL. YOU CAN REQUEST A PERMIT ON THE BACK OF THE PIECE OF PAPER AND SUBMITTED WITH YOUR NAME ON AN STREET ADDRESS AND IT'LL KICK BACK TO YOU. YOU GO THROUGH YEARS AND MONTHS OF PROFESSION AND HE MADE APPLICATION. IT'S A TECHNICAL DEFAULT ON THE PERMIT SUBMISSION. CAN BE EASILY DONE. MORE SUBSTANTIVE IS THE CONSTRUCTION. YOU CANNOT COMMENCE YOUR INSTRUCTION WITHOUT A PERMIT.

THAT SHE TIMELINE REQUIRED THE PARTICULAR PHASE IS GOING TO BE MISSED . THAT'S THE SUBSTANTIVE ISSUE FOR MY PERSPECTIVE. YOU CAN TURN YOUR HEDGES TO SUGGEST THAT WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS. I'M NOT PREPARED TO GET INTO THAT DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE NO TIMELINE AS TO INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT AND OLD-TIME LETTUCE FOR THE HOTEL COMMITTEE. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY ASK. , IT IS IMPOSSIBLE. IT'S TOO COMPLICATED WITH TOO MANY OPEN-ENDED QUESTIONS. THEY'VE EXPANDED TONIGHT TO BE ABLE TO RATIONALIZE THAT. SIMPLY PUT.

IT IS MY PREFERENCE EXISTING CONTRACT IS EXECUTED ENFORCE CONTRACT. THERE WAS NO RUSH TO JUDGMENT FOR US TO MAKE A

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DECISION AS TO DO WHAT, WHEN, WHERE AND HOW SO WE CAN MORE INFORMATION AND HARD COMMITMENTS. THIS DISCUSSION CONTAINS ZERO HARD COMMITMENTS. IT'S TOO OPEN-ENDED TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS CURRENTLY. I'LL ABIDE AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS WHILE THIS ADDITIONAL DATA FROM THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM, ET CETERA, IS BROUGHT FORWARD.

THERE IS A MASSIVE BLACK HOLE OF INFORMATION HERE THAT NEEDS TO BE FILLED. WE ARE THROWING DARTS IN THE DARK. WE WILL COME UP WITH ARBITRARY TIMELINES THAT ARE CANDIDLY MEANINGLESS. SO WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION. COMMISSIONER C JOHNSON IS A GRANULAR GUY WHEN IT COMES TO THIS TYPE OF THING AND I'M IN HIS CAMPER NOW, COMPLETELY. WE NEED DETAILS ON THE TASK IS. WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE STATUS OF EVERY PHASE THE COMMISSIONER JEH JOHNSON BROUGHT UP THE THREE BUCKETS OF CONCERN. I PREPARED NOT TO TAKE ANY ACTION UNTIL IT ANSWERED. AND NOW I WILL SHUT UP. I'LL LET IT GO WITH THAT.

THAT. WE HEARD TONIGHT, SHE SAID A HARD NOTE ON MARCH 18.

THAT'S MONDAY, RIGHT THE MEETING, I WILL BE HERE.

MONDAY COMING IN THEY WILL NOT DO IT. BETH MADE FROM. I DON'T KNOW TO ME, HE STOOD THERE AND SAID . I HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW WITH MME. ATTORNEY. WE CAN PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER. WHEN YOU PUT YOUR HEADS TOGETHER, THEY PUT US ON NOTICE SO TO SPEAK, TONIGHT. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. HAVE HER WRITE A LETTER MARCH 19 . GIVING THEM 30 DAYS TO CARPARK. YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE ANSWERS YOU WANT. IT IS A WAY TO GO. I'M THAT, THEY HEARD THEY HEARD EVERYTHING YOU SAID TO COME ON THE BEAR SAID, CHAIRMAN US OR REQUEST A I WAS GOING TO GET ENGINEERS AND YOU GUYS TO TALK. MARK A ZOMBIE OTHER WAY. WHEN IT COMES TO CONTRACTS AND LEGAL STUFF. HE SAID, NO. WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH TO SIN WHAT DOES IT REALLY DO FOR THE CONTRACT WHAT DOES IT DO FOR WHAT WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE? EVERYTHING AND YOU MAY NEED TO BEGIN. WHAT WE WANT WHAT I HEARD ALL NIGHT WE WANT

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TO SEE PIPE SPEED STORED TO BE DUG UP AND LAID IN THE DIRT.

THAT'S WHAT WE HEARD. AND MME. ATTORNEY. I DON'T HAVE AN IDEA TO GO OVER , HEAD AND DISCUSS THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

IT DOESN'T DO ANYBODY ANY GOOD. THEY WANT THE PROJECT AND WE WANT THE PROJECTS TO CLEAR HEADS HAVE TO COME TOGETHER TO SEE. I WILL VENTURE IN OFF THE LEGAL PARTS TO THE ENGINEERING PART FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY TWO OR THREE YEARS

SITTING UP HERE. >> I'M ABOUT TO VENTURE OUT.

I WANT TO MOVE ON. ARE WE TRYING TO DIG HOLES FROM TWO JULIE, AND THIS COMPANY. FOR SOME TO MEET.

>> AND THEORY. >> I'M TRYING TO BE AS SIMPLE

AS POSSIBLE. >> HE WANTS TO MOVE ON.

>> BOARD MEMBER GAME TRUTHFULLY, IT DOESN'T CONCERN US. THE THAT OF A LEVEL HAS A DELIVERABLE WITH WHICH THEY NEED TO PROVIDE. HE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS ON THE CITY SIDE. WE NEED TO FULFILL THEIR CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS.

THE LINES THE MILESTONES ARE NOT MET, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR PROCEDURE TO SEEK A REMEDY. FOR THERE FOR

EACH >> IF THEY WENT OUT AND STARTED TAKING IT WAS AN AGREED-UPON DATE THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR PHASE ONE. THE HOTEL DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE POSSIBILITY OF THE TOWNHOMES. COULD BEGIN.

THAT'LL BE THE COMMENCEMENT OF THE CONSTRUCTION. THEY HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO COMPLETE INSTRUCTION -- CONSTRUCTION BY THE STATE. A SUBSEQUENT AT THE ALLIANCE FOR PHASE TWO. WE CREATED IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A FLOWING AND SEQUENCE OF CONSTRUCTION THAT WOULD ASSURE IN SOME SORT OF COMPLETION WE CAN ALL SEE IN REAL WE DON'T GET INTO CONSTRUCTION OR THE PROBLEMS PROBLEMS. THE DEVELOPER HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO BUILD THE STRUCTURE AND COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE DIFFERENT PHASES OF CONSTRUCTION. FROM THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY AND IF PRA, WE MUST FOLLOW OUR CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS AND FOLLOW THROUGH WITH WHAT WE

NEED TO DO. >> OKAY. I UNDERSTAND IT WHOLEHEARTEDLY. I CAN SEE IT. FEBRUARY 5, 2026. TWO YEARS.

DID I HEAR TONIGHT THERE CANNOT BE MET FOR FIFTH? I'M LOOKING AT THE DATES. I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING THEY WILL BE IN BREACH ON FEBRUARY 5, 2026. I HAVEN'T HEARD IT. I MIGHT NOT EVEN BE HERE, FEBRUARY 5, 2026. I'M BEING HONEST WITH

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YOU. I'M JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU. WERE TALKING ABOUT A PERMIT ON MARCH 8. 18. TRYING TO SAY. THEY ARE IN BREACH OR WHATEVER. WE HAVE A RIGHT TO CURE DOING REALLY WANT TO DO.

EVEN IN PHASE TWO, YOU GO TO DECEMBER 2, 2026. THAT IS TWO YEARS. SEVEN MONTHS. DID I DO MY MATH RIGHT? THAT'S THE PROBLEM I'M HAVING. THE PROBLEM I'M HAVING. JUNE 16.

I DON'T SEE THIS HAPPENING EITHER. WE CAN DEAL WITH IT ON JUNE 16 OR CLUES -- OR CLOSE. MARCH 18 IS WHAT IS ON MY MIND RIGHT NOW. HOW HARD IS IT TO GET A PERMIT LIMIT BACK IT UP.

IF ON MARCH 19 YOU AT THE MELITTA AND SAID THEY WERE IN BREACH. FROM WHAT WE READ AND HE TOLD THEM THEY HAD 30 DAYS

ALL TO GET A PERMIT? >> MADAM. CHAIR.

>> IS TO APPLY. THEY HAVE TO APPLY. FOR IT. OR THE DPC OR APPROVAL. BY MARCH 18. THE CONTRACT DOES NOT SAY . IT SAYS, APPLY. THEY ONLY HAVE TO APPLY FOR THE PERMIT. OR THE DPC OR APPROVAL ON THE DEADLINE.

>> THEY DON'T DO THAT, THEN MARCH 19 , OR 20TH OR WHATEVER, USING A LETTER SAYING, YOU DID NOT DO IT. YOU GET THEM 30

DAYS. >> CORRECT. YES SIR.

>> THE NEXT UP TO THAT WOULD BE THE RIGHT OF THE REVERTER THAT WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND TAKE THE PROPERTY.

>> THAT IS UP TO 30 DAYS. >> CORRECT.

>> IF THEY GO TO APPLY TO SOMETHING, AND --. TO THEM AT

THE DEADLINE. >> WITHIN THE 30 DAYS. I APOLOGIZE. ZERO THERE IS NO RIGHT TO CURE. THAT SPARKS COMMUNICATION. WHATEVER IS IN THE TIME PERIOD TO CURE THE DEFICIENCY. THAT'LL BE THE NEXT STEP AFTER NOTIFICATION.

SOMETHING ABOUT A PEER. SIDE-BY-SIDE. YOU HAD COMMENTS AND CONCERNS STARTING WITH PHASE ONE. THE COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT TWO YEARS AND A YEAR AND A HALF OR WHATEVER. AS I LOOK AT PHASE ONE DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE. IT SHALL INCLUDE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS SERVING THE ENTIRE PROJECT. STREET PAVING, WATER AND SEWER FACILITY AND DRAINAGE FACILITY. SHALL INCLUDE ABILITY EE. HOTEL. MAY INCLUDE CONSTRUCTION OF TOWNHOMES ON AE BACKERS AVENUE. THAT IS IN PHASE ONE.

BY 2026, WE SHOULD HAVE A HOTEL. AND, GUESS WHAT I'M CONCERNED IS. I NEVER BUILT ANYTHING, BUT I DON'T THINK WE CAN BUILD A HOTEL AND 11 MONTHS AS WE HAVE ANY BEEN DUCK THE PIPES IN THE GROUND. THAT'S A CONCERN THAT I HAVE.

EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. BUT I'M ASKED TO LOOK AT IT AND EVALUATE WHERE WE ARE AND HOW DO WE MAKE IT. I'M WITH YOU. I'M NOT QUITE THERE BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME THINGS THE FILL-IN AND QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HOTEL AND THE SPIRIT YOU HEARD TESTIMONY THAT THEY ARE EVALUATING THOSE HOTELS THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. THEY ARE COMING TO TOWN ANY MORE COMING TO TOWN. THAT IS A CONCERN BECAUSE THE PHASE ONE DEADLINES WHILE THEY HAVE COMMENCED, COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION IS FEBRUARY 5, 2026. I SUPPOSE WE CAN HAVE A HOTEL BUT 26. WHAT WE HEARD TONIGHT. THE APPLICATIONS, ET CETERA WILL NOT BE MET. TO COMMENCE, JUNE 16 ON PHASE TWO ELEMENTS.

SHALL INCLUDE BUILDING SEE. 11 STORY BUILDING WITH RESTAURANT RETAIL AND 48 RESIDENTIAL UNITS. SHALL INCLUDE BUILDING D. THE EIGHTH THE REBUILDING WITH THE RESTAURANT RETAIL IN

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19 RESIDENTIAL UNITS. SHALL INCLUDE BUILDING F, GROUND-FLOOR RESTAURANT AND RETAIL. INCLUDE G INCLUDE G8 STORY BUILDING WITH RETAIL AND 25 RESIDENTIAL UNITS. TO BE CONCLUDED, WHAT. 10 MONTHS LATER, FEBRUARY TO DECEMBER? WE WERE TO HAVE ALL OF THOSE BUILDINGS COMPLETED BY THEN.

WHEN I LOOK AT THESE TWO SIDE-BY-SIDE, COMPARED TO WHAT WE SWITCHED HERE. THAT IS A SCHEDULE. I GUESS THE SCHEDULE AND WE WERE WITH TIMING AND THE REAL CONCERN. WE HAVE COMMITTED AND A CONTRACT. IT COMES TO THIS BOARD, WHICH RULES UP TO THE CITY COMMISSION. TO AMEND THE CONTRACT IF WE WANT TO GO TO ALLOW FOR. WHAT WE ARE ADMITTED TO. WE ARE IN ANOTHER PINCH WE'VE NOT GIVEN ENOUGH TIME TO DO THAT. AND FURTHERMORE, THE PUBLIC IS LOOKING AT US AND TRUST US FURTHER ERODING BECAUSE THE GOALPOST LITERALLY KEEPS MOVING. WE MOVED IT NOW. FROM THE ORIGINAL, ONE TIME, TALKING ABOUT POSSIBLY THREE AND MAYBE EVEN FOR IF WE MISSED THE CALCULATION ON THE THIRD TIME THAT WE ARE FACING.

THAT IS WHAT WE ARE FACING NOW. HOW DO WE LOOK AT THIS PROJECT? WE ARE ENGINEERS BUT WE ARE NOT IN THIS PROJECT. HOW DO WE MAYBE ANTICIPATE. HOW DO WE MOVE THE GOALPOST AND WAITED WE MOVE IT TO? IF WE GET IT WRONG, THE PEOPLE THAT PUT US HERE WILL BE SERIOUSLY QUESTIONING WHAT IS GOING ON UP

HERE. >> THAT WAS MY POINT, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. WE DON'T KNOW IS WE SAY. WE DON'T KNOW WHERE TO MAKE THE NEW DEADLINE. IF YOU MAKE NEW

DEADLINES. >> THAT IS FAIR.

>> DO KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THEY HAVE ON TILL FEBRUARY 5. I'M LOOKING AT WHAT IS ON THE COMPUTER. FEBRUARY 5, 2026.

I'M NOT GOING TO PHASE TWO YET BECAUSE I'M DEALING WITH PHASE

ONE. FEBRUARY 26. >> WE GET A HOTEL.

>> WE GET HOTEL. DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL HAPPEN. I'M THROWING A HYPOTHETICAL. FEBRUARY 3. 2026. WE HAVE A PIECE OF HOTEL GOING UP. THAT IS MY PROBLEM RIGHT NOW. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE PROJECT IS GOING TO BE. FEBRUARY 5. 2026. I DON'T KNOW. IF IT WAS FEBRUARY 6, FEBRUARY 6, 2026. MAYBE I'LL BE HERE AND MAYBE I WILL NOT. IT'LL BE A WHOLE DIFFERENT DISCUSSION COMING FROM MY CHAIR. YOU BREACH. THAT IS MY CONCERN RIGHT NOW. THAT IS JUST MY CONCERN RIGHT NOW. TOO MANY UNKNOWNS AS COMMISSIONER BRODERICK SAID. TOO MANY UNKNOWNS. BUT I'M CAUTIONING US. AND I KNOW THE PUBLIC IS LISTENING. IN THE PUBLIC IS MAD. WE NEED TO CAUTION ONOURSELVES RIGHT NOW. BEFORE W DO SOMETHING AND PULL THE PLUG REMAND AND DO WHATEVER. WHAT THE PUBLIC REALLY WANTS IS A HOTEL IN DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE. NOT THE ONES THAT CAME BEFORE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT SAYING HE CHECKED THE BOX. THAT IS WHAT WE WANT. IF IT MEANS THAT MADAM. ATTORNEY OR US , MADAM.

CHAIR. SINCE A LETTER SAYING, HEY. WE NEED SOME DATES. THE NOTE I MEAN BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT WAS SAID .

I'M NOT READY TO PULL EVERYTHING OUT. BECAUSE, FEBRUARY 5 BECAUSE, FEBRUARY 5, 2026. I HAVE TO RELY ON THE COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. AND JEREMIAH JOHNSON. AND THE CITY MANAGER BECAUSE TWO ENGINEERS, YOU DO CONSTRUCTION ALL DAY.

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AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I WANT A GOOD HOTEL SO I DON'T WANT TO RUSH TO JOB TO GET IT UP THERE. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I WANT IT DONE RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW BY THE CONSTRUCTION AND HOW LONG IT TAKES TO PUT UP A HOTEL. I DON'T KNOW. I KNOW ONCE THE FOUNDATION IS LED, IT IS ADDING THE FLOORS AND CONTINUE TO ADD THE FLOORS WHILE GOING UP. AT THE END OF THIS YEAR OR SOMETIME NEXT YEAR, IF THE PUBLIC SEES SOME KIND OF STANDING BUILDING GOING UP. THE EMAILS WE ARE GETTING MIGHT CHANGE. YOU MAY SAY, I WANTED THIS PAINTED AND I HAD RESERVATIONS FOR FEBRUARY 7. KNOW THE EMAILS WE GET.

EVERYBODY'S UPSET AND EVERYBODY WANTS THE HOTEL. WE CANNOT MEET TOGETHER AGAIN. LET US TAKE A TIME WHEN WE MEET WITH THE MADAM. ATTORNEY AND THE CITY MANAGER TO PUT EVERYTHING ON THE TABLE TO THEM AND THEN WE COME BACK AND ADD ANOTHER MEETING. AND DISCUSS EVERYTHING. BUT AS FAR AS, IS FIRST THE 18TH BASED ON WHAT THE CITY MANAGER SAID. IF WE NEED TO SEND THAT LETTER, AND WE NEED TO SEND THE LETTER LIKE WE DO. I'M STILL ON PHASE ONE AND IT CANNOT GET PAST PHASE ONE, BECAUSE SPACE TWO. IF PHASE ONE DOESN'T HAPPEN, PHASE TWO, THREE, AND FOUR. IT'S NOT EVEN A CONSIDERATION.

THAT IS WHERE I AM AT RIGHT NOW. I WILL TALK TO YOU TOMORROW TO SEE WHAT SHE THINK AND WHAT WE THINK AND WHERE WE CAN GO. WITH THE MARCH 18 MONDAY. THEY GAVE US NOTICE SO TO SPEAK. THEY SAID NO. HE SAID APPLY? APPLY FOR A

PERMIT? >> CORRECT. WE HAVE AT IT , CORRECTION IS A COMMISSIONER, TOO.

>> MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. >> GO AHEAD.

>> FIRST THE BALL. I WOULD SAY WE HAVE A CURRENT CONTRACT AND CURRENT RESPONSIBILITIES THAT ARE CLEARLY STATED WITHIN THAT ABUTMENT CONTRACT. THERE IS NO DIRECTION NEEDED AT THIS TIME.

WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY A STUFF TO IMPLEMENT THE PROVISIONS OF THE CONTRACT. UNLESS YOU WANT TO AMEND THE CONTRACT TONIGHT, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR NOTICE IF THERE IS A BREACH.

>> NFL COMMISSIONER GAMES WITH TALK AND COME UP WITH SOME DIRECTION. WE ARE NOT GOING IN DECIDING IS COMMISSION OR

NOT THE SIDING. AS A BOARD. >> TONIGHT WAS AN UPDATE BY THE DEVELOPER AND ALSO YOU RECEIVED INFORMATION FROM THE CITY ENGINEER AND THE UPDATE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY AND YOU KNOW THE STATUS AND THE NEXT STEPS SHALL FOLLOW SHORTLY.

>> MADAM. CHAIR, LIKE A SAID. IT'S THE CLIFF WE KNOW IS THERE. WE HEARD FROM THE DEVELOPER TO ONE WHERE THEY ARE EVEN WITH THE OTHER PHASES OF THE CURRENT CONTRACT. I THINK QUITE FRANKLY, I AGREE WITH --. WE ARE LITERALLY SITTING HERE LOOKING INTO THE CRYSTAL BALL. THAT IS COMING. BETWEEN NOW AND THEN THERE ARE A NUMBER OF MEETINGS AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL GIVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION WE WOULD NEED. BUT I THINK IT WILL BE IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO PROBABLY SIT BACK AND LET IT GO AND WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT WHEN THE DEADLINE HITS AND HE COMES BACK FROM STAFF TO US THAT THERE WAS A BREACH. AND THE SECOND AMENDED THE CONTRACT THAT WE GAVE. AND THEY WILL SEEK DIRECTION WHERE WE WILL GO AT THAT POINT. I'M GOING TO SPEND MY TIME TALKING TO MR. CISNEROS. AND MR. ANDREWS ONE MORE TIME. AND WITH MISS HEDGES TOMORROW. AND REALLY SEEING. I'M SURE I WILL HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC AND INVITE THEM TO GIVE ME COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK. IT'LL BE SWADDLING CIRCULATED. I EXPECTED AND I WANTED. ULTIMATELY, WE ARE THE VOICE OF THE COMMUNITY. WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY ARE WITH IT. THERE LISTENING AND WE ARE HERE FROM THEM. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THE NEWS. THE GOOD THE BAD AND THE NOT SO GOOD. THAT IS WHERE

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I AM AT. I SAY WE ARE STARING DOWN THE CRYSTAL BALL AND SEE WHAT IS IN ITS AND THE PICTURES COMING CLOSE BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ONCE WE GET IT. I'M DEAD.

>> COMMISSIONER JEH JOHNSON. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. WE HAVE A MENTALITY OF, HAVE IT YOUR WAY AND HURRY UP AND GET IT DONE. THERE ARE CONTRACT AGREEMENTS AND ARRANGEMENTS. I GET IT. LEGAL PARTS. THE FOLKS I HEAR FROM THE MOST, ARE THE ONES THAT WERE ABLE SAY, THERE WAS A GROUP THAT IS 1000% AGAINST THAT BEING ANYTHING BUT GREEN GRASS. AND THEN THERE ARE THE GROUPS THAT ARE LIKE, I DON'T KNOW. YOU'RE

CHANGING MY CITY. >> WE HAVE TO BE LIKE FORT

LAUDERDALE. >> THAT'S RIGHT. WE ARE DEMANDING EXTRA. ALL THE PARTS AND PIECES, WITH TALK UP HERE.

THERE IS A UNANIMOUS VOTE. BY THE COMMISSION AND BY THE PEOPLE. IN MY PERSONAL OPINION. THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT. WHEN YOU START GOING DOWN THE PATH OF OTHER ELEMENTS OF, HE DID NOT DO OR YOU DIDN'T DO OR WE DIDN'T DO AND WE TRIPPED AND FELL DOWN BECAUSE WE WERE NOT PATIENTS. I FAULT MYSELF FOR NOT BEING PATIENT. I THINK IT IS IN THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST TO BE PATIENT. THAT SETTLEMENT AT THE END HAS BEEN PATIENT. AFTER THE PLANT WAS DECOMMISSIONED. I REMEMBER THIS BEING 10+ YEARS AGO WHEN HE STARTED LOOKING AT APPLICATIONS. BUT I'M ALSO CAUTIOUSLY PROCEEDING BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE PROCEEDING DOWN A LEGAL PATH. AND IN MY SMALL TASTE OF THE LEGAL WORLD AND THE RIGHT SECURE PARTS. YOU WENT IN AND I'M COMING IN NOW. THERE ARE SPECIFIC WORDS AND CONTRACTS WHICH I AGREE WITH WHEN I LOOK AT THESE THINGS ABOUT YOU ARE ONLY IN DEFAULT UNLESS YOU TELL ME I'M IN DEFAULT. I READ THAT ON THE RIGHT SECURE A PAGE IN THE PARAGRAPH. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S 100%. BUT I'D BE WILLING TO ARGUE WITH SOMEBODY ABOUT IT, BECAUSE I CAN READ PLAIN ENGLISH. WE HAVE TO PROCEED WITH CAUTION. THE RECOMMENDATION, COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. I LISTEN TO THE COMMISSIONERS ALL AROUND ME.

GAINES, C JOHNSON AND THE MAYOR. IT IS IMPORTANCE. BUT WHAT I DO KNOW FROM WISDOM IS WHEN YOU BACKUP ANY TRY TO DO IT AGAIN, IT HURTS. IT HURTS AND IT'S PAINFUL. WE HAVE AN AGREEMENTS WITH A GROUP WITH --. THAT I'M PROUD OF. I'M REALLY PROUD OF IT. I THINK WE ARE ALL PART OF IT IN THIS ROOM. AND I SAY, THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT WITH EXPECTATION. YOU HEARD IT TONIGHT. VERY CLEAR.

I HAD TO TAKE OFF MY SHELL AND START TALKING A LITTLE BIT. I WANT TO SHARE IT WITH YOU IN THE PUBLIC FORUM. ABOUT WHAT THE CITY DESERVES WHAT THEY EXPECT. YOU GUYS BELIEVE THAT.

AND YOU'RE HONEST WITH US ABOUT THAT. SO THANK YOU. WE ALL RESPECT THE CONTRACT PART. IT'S NOT ALWAYS POPULAR WITH SOCIAL MEDIA AND THERE IS NO ACTION AND ONLY GOODNESS. I'M GOING TO TURN MY SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES OFFER A FEW MONTHS. I'M HIDING UNDER A ROCK I'M JUST SAYING , TALK TO ME. THAT IS ALL RIGHT. WE WILL BE OKAY. WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH SOME TIME FRAMES. WHAT I DO REQUEST AND EXPECT AS YOU CONTINUE ON THE MISSION AND PHASE TWO DOESN'T GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE OF TRYING TO , LET ME BACK UP. I TOOK THE MAYOR'S WORDS VERY SERIOUSLY BECAUSE THE FOCUS IS ABOUT THE HOTEL COMPONENTS. IT CAN BE A HOTEL OF GREEN GRASS BUT I DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP THE OTHER ELEMENTS OF THE PROJECT THAT MAKE IT A WORTHY AND DESERVING PROJECT FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND AND CONTINUE TO FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT EVEN IF IT IS SOFT. LINES ON A PAPER WHICH IS WHAT

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THE COMMITMENTS ARE OUTSIDE OF COMMENCE CONSTRUCTION. SOFT MOVEMENTS AND GAINS MOVING FORWARD IN THE PROJECT. I RESPECT THOSE GREATLY BECAUSE THEY COST A LOT OF MONEY AND PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE WHAT THE TRUE ENDEAVOR LOOKS LIKE WHEN YOU ARE DRAWING LINES ON A PIECE OF PAPER. IT IS IMPORTANT CRITICAL AND HE WILL MEET WITH THE GUY TOMORROW.

I'M SUPPOSED TO MEET WITH HIM IN THE MORNING, TOO. HOW THEY

ARE. >> IT'S HIS AGENDA TOMORROW.

ABOUT, RIGHT? THAT'S OKAY. SHE KNOWS IT'S IMPORTANT AND HE UNDERSTANDS IT. THAT CORE PART OF THE CITY. MAKING SURE IT IS RIGHT. AND IT'LL SPREAD BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT AND WE ARE DESTINED FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. AND I'M ENCOURAGED BY THE OPPORTUNITY. A LOT OF GOOD THINGS WILL COME OUT OF THIS. THERE IS NO DOUBT OR WE WILL NOT BE HERE TODAY.

BUT IT IS A CONTRACT THING AND I WILL IRON THIS OUT SOMEWHERE ELSE SOME OTHER DAY. BUT THANK YOU.

>> ARE WE DONE WITH THIS TOPIC? ANYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HONESTY AND FOR BEING HERE. GOING THROUGH THIS WITH US. WE ARE GOING TO BE

[c. Award RFP 2024-019 for On-Demand Transportation Services and authorize staff to enter negotiations with the highest ranked respondent, BEEFREE, LLC.]

TRUSTWORTHY PARTNERS. WE HOPE YOU ARE, TOO. SO, SHOWING UP

ON. >> HOURS PAID 2024 FOR ON-DEMAND TRANSPORTATION SERVICES AND AUTHORIZED THE TO ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE RESPONDENTS BE FREE, LLC.

AND >> ANOTHER ONE OF MY SOLDIERS IS SICK AND DOWN. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS PRESENTATION. I HAVE THE AMAZING MIRIAM HERE TO HELP ME.

I WILL SAY ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL ENDEAVORS THAT THE FPR HE HAS UNDERTAKEN HAS BEEN THE ON-DEMAND TRANSPORTATION. I HAVE BEEN MORE POSITIVE COMMENTS. THE ON-DEMAND TRANSPORTATION HAS REALLY BEEN A WONDERFUL INITIATIVE. AS YOU SEE WHAT IS ON THE SCREEN. WE HAD ROUGHLY OVER 7000 AT RISE. 2000 FLAG DOWNS AND 529 THAT ARE DISPATCHED. OVER 10,000 RIOTS OVER THE COURSE OF THE PROGRAM. WITH THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM, YOU DIRECTED STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE RFP. WE DID AND WE ESTABLISHED EVALUATION CRITERIA AND THE CRITERIA WERE, A LETTER OF SUBMITTAL THAT INCLUDED THE COMPANY'S QUALIFICATIONS INFORMATION, REFERENCE AND COST OF THE ACTUAL PROGRAM. THE TEAM STRUCTURE AND STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE TIMELINE AND MARKETING STRATEGY AND CUSTOMER SERVICE COMPLAINTS PLAN. AND THE TECHNICAL PLAN.

STANDARDS AND HOURS OF OPERATION AND MOBILE APP. AND THE PROGRAM PLAN WITH THE ABILITY TO PROJECT OVERVIEW AND THE ASPIRATIONS OF THE PLAN WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IMPACT. FROM THERE, WE RECEIVED THOSE PROPOSALS AND HAD A CUMULATIVE EVALUATION OF THE PROPOSALS RECEIVED. AND THE NUMBER ONE HIGHEST RANKED PROPOSAL LISTS BE FREE. LLC.

A.K.A. DBA FREEBIE. HE'S BEEN PATIENTLY SITTING OUT THERE AND WAS THERE AT THE KICKOFF. I HAVE TO GIVE THEM.

THANK YOU FOR STICKING AROUND AS WELL. WE DO HAVE -- FROM ST.

LUCIE COUNTY. EVERYBODY'S ANXIOUSLY AWAITING THIS DECISION. FROM THAT, THE COMMITTEE RANKING. AND AFTER THE RECEIPT OF THE PROPOSAL. OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO AWARD THE RFP TO THE HIGHEST RANKS RESPONDENTS. BE FREE, LLC TO AUTHORIZE STAFF TO ENTER INTO NEGOTIATIONS FOR A PERIOD OF 90 DAYS AND DURING THAT TIME, WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU WITH AN EXECUTED CONTRACT FOR ON-DEMAND TRANSPORTATION SERVICES. THAT IS THE EXTENT OF THE PRESENTATION.

>> ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME TERRITORY?

>> IT HAS YET TO BE NEGOTIATED.

>> IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR THERE TO BE AN EXTENDED TERRITORY

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