Apr 08, 2024 Planning Board

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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FORT PIERCE PLANNING BOARD MEETING OF APRIL 8TH, 2024. IF YOU WOULD ALL PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> THANK YOU. A REMINDER TO EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM, PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES. BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO ROLL CALL, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO PERSONALLY THANK MR. KAUFMAN FOR HIS MANY YEARS OF SERVICE ON THIS BOARD. HE WILL BE GREATLY MISSED, BUT WE WISH HIM WELL IN HIS NEXT CHAPTER.

AND ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE A NEW MEMBER WITH US. TRADITION, AT LEAST AS LONG AS I HAVE BEEN HERE, AND A NEW MEMBER CMES ON, WE GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES TO THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC. WOULD YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF?

>> MY NAME IS GLORIA. I HAVE BEEN LIVING IN FORT PIERCE FOR SIX YEARS NOW. PROFESSIONALLY, I'M THE ADMINISTRATOR FOR THIS ON EVERY STATION. BEFORE THAT, I LIVED IN WASHINGTON, D.C. FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS . AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR THE INSTITUTION OVER THERE. ORIGINALLY, I EMIGRATED FROM ROMANIA 20 SOME YEARS AGO . AND I AM REALLY VERY HONORED TO BE PART OF THIS BOARD. I AM LOOKING FOR TO WORKING WITH

ALL OF YOU. >> WE ARE HONORED TO HAVE YOU.

THANK YOU. WELCOME. DO WE HAVE A QUORUM FOR FULL ATTENDANCE .

WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLE PLEASE?

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[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

MINUTES. >> MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A

SECOND. CALL THE ROLE PLEASE. >>

[a. Annexation - DT Ventures 1 - 3804 Sunrise Boulevard]

>> MOVING ON NOW TO NEW BUSINESS. WE HAVE ITEM SIX A , ANNEXATION MR. OFFSIDES OR HAS THE PRESENTATION.

>> CHAIRMAN, BEFORE YOU APPLICATION FOR INFLATION FOR DT VENTURES AT 304 SUNRISE BOULEVARD. THE APPLICANT IS BLAINE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE DT VENTURES ONE LLC IN THE PARCEL I.D. IS 2433-1 TO 3-0001-000-1. IN SUMMARY, THIS IS A REVIEW OF APPLICANT'S TRANSITION OF ONE PARCEL INTO THE CITY. THE PROPERTY HAS A ST. LUCIE COUNTY -- FIVE UNITS PER ACRE AND A ZONING DESIGNATION OF R3 OR RS THREE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY UNITS PER ACRE. TO ENSURE CONSISTENCY WITH PARCEL ONE .

THE CLOSE -- RESIDENTIAL LOW-DENSITY END THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF R1 SINGLE-FAMILY LOW-DENSITY. THE TAX VALUE OF THE PROPERTY IS $319,550 SHOULD APPLICATION FOR THE ANNEXATION BE APPROVED , THEY SHOULD CREATE A NEW SOURCE OF THE TAX REVENUE FOR THE CITY FORT PIERCE DEPENDING ON THE MILLAGE RATE PER YEAR, WHICH CURRENTLY IS 6.9. THIS IS THE SITE LOCATION WITH THE SITE AREA OF 11.84 GIVE OR TAKE ACRES. HERE IS JUST 25TH STREET. THIS IS IN CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL AND THIS IS THE PARCEL IN QUESTION. THE FUTURE LAND USE CURRENTLY IS RESIDENTIAL ARE IN FIVE UNITS PER ACRE AND THEN WERE BROUGHT INTO THE CITY, IT WILL BE LOW-DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THE PROPOSED ZONING CURRENTLY IS ARTISTRY RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY THREE UNITS PER ACRE. IT WILL BE BROUGHT INTO THE CITY WITH A ZONING OF R1 SINGLE-FAMILY LOW-DENSITY. FOR FUTURE LAND-USE COMPARISON,

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THE DIFFERENCE IS 1.5 ACRES PER -- 1.5 UNITS PER ACRE.

STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE PLANNING BOARD TO IMPROVE THE -- ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATIONS COULD BE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS OR A RECOMMENDATION OF DISAPPROVAL.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THE BOARD? OKAY, I WOULD MOVE ON TO THE PUBLIC PORTIONS THE APPLICANT HERE WISHING TO SPEAK AT ALL?

>> I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE MADE AWARE. THEY DON'T LEAVE

ANY COMMENTS FOR ME TO SAY. >> ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC'S WITCHING TO SPEAK ON HIS ANNEXATION? SEEING NONE, I WILL COME BACK TO THE BOARD FOR ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS. HEARING ON, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A

MOTION. >> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND BY MR. HENNING. CALL ROLE PLEASE.

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[b. Rezoning - Planned Development - Fort Pierce Commercial - 301 Florida Avenue ]

>> CHAIRMAN, BOARD , BEFORE YOU IS AN APPLICATION FOR REZONING FOR PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR FORT PIERCE COMMERCIAL FLEXSPACE AT 301 FLORIDA AVENUE. THE APPLICANT IS MARCELLA GAMBLER, AND ASSOCIATES PROPERTY OWNER IS DDA REALTY GROUP LLC AND THE PARCEL I.D. IS 2410-711-0041-000-SEVEN. IN SUMMARY, THE REQUEST A REVIEW OF THE APPLICATION FOR ZONING ATLAS MAP AMENDMENT OF ONE PARCEL OF LAND TO CHANGE THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION FOR GENERAL COMMERCIAL C-3 TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD. THE REQUEST OF CHANGING ZONING TO PD IS TO ACCOMMODATE A SMALL 7000 SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING FOR A COMMERCIAL RENTAL SITE, PROVIDED UP TO FOUR COMMERCIAL OFFICE/WAREHOUSE WITHIN THE CRA. THE APPLICANT HAS STATED THEY ARE SEEKING TO DEVELOP THE SITE IN A MANNER THAT IS CONDUCIVE WITH A BRAVE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY URBAN COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. THE FRONT PORTION OF THE BUILDING WILL HOUSE RETAIL AND OFFICE SPACE PROVIDING ACTIVE USE ALONG THE SIDEWALK. ON STREET PARKING IS INCORPORATED TO FACILITATE ACCESS FOR CUSTOMERS AS WELL AS TO IMPROVE THE PUBLIC ROOM. IN SUMMARY, THE EXPECTATION THAT THIS PD WILL ALLOW OVER ZONING OF C-3 ARE AS FOLLOWS. THE MINIMUM DEPTH OF THE FRONT YARD IS REQUIRED TO BE 25 FEET AND THE C-3 ZONING AT 8B IS BEING PROPOSED IN THE PD. A MINIMUM DEPTH FOR SIDE OF RAILYARD IS REQUIRED TO BE 15 FEET IN THE C-3 N53 -- MAXIMUM COVERAGE IS 50% REQUIRED IF IT HAS BEEN PROPOSED WITH THE BUILDING AND SIDEWALKS. THE REMAINDER IS OPEN SPACE IMPERVIOUS MATERIALS. SOMETHING THAT IS ARCHITECTURE IS CONSISTENT WITH CONTEMPORARY AND INDUSTRIAL STYLE. THIS IS THE SITE LOCATION RIGHT HERE WITH AN ACREAGE OF ZERO POINT 38 GIVE OR TAKE A FEW ACRES. AND THIS IS U.S. HIGHWAY 1, GEORGIA AVENUE IS RIGHT HERE, FLORIDA AVENUE THAT'S OFF OF, AND THEN IF YOU GO MORE NORTH, WE ARE HERE. THE FUTURE LAND USE A CURRENTLY GC, GENERAL COMMERCIAL. THIS WILL NOT CHANGE WITH THE REZONING. THE ZONING ITSELF, RIGHT NOW IS C-3, GENERAL COMMERCIAL.

WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS THE PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT. THE PD DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE A PROCESS FOR EVALUATION OVER INDIVIDUALLY PLAN DEVELOPMENT WHICH ARE NOT OTHERWISE PERMITTED IN THE ZONE DISTRICT ESTABLISHED BY THIS CHAPTER.

THE PD DISTRICT IS TO A VOLUNTARY PROCESS, SPY APPLICANTS FOR SUCH ZONING DESIGNATIONS. THE STANDARDS AND PROCEDURES OF THIS DISTRICT ARE INTENDED TO PROMOTE FLEX ABILITY, DESIGN, AND PERMIT PLAN DIVERSIFICATION AND INTEGRATION OF USES AND STRUCTURES. WHILE AT THE SAME TIME, THE ABSOLUTE AUTHORITY TO ESTABLISH LIMITATIONS OF REGULATION AS IT DEEMS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE. BEST AFRICANS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST AS IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING ZONING CONSISTENT WITH SECTION 125 136 OF THE CITY CODE AND CONFERENCE OF PLAN AND DOES NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE COMMUNAL WELFARE. THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT GOES ALONG WITH THE PD .

IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE ONE THAT'S ALREADY PROPOSED. THIS IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE THAT WAS

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AND FOUR, THE FINAL PD SITE PLAN SHALL INCLUDE ALL AGREEMENTS, PROVISIONS, AND COVENANTS WHICH GOVERN THE USE MAINTENANCE AND CONTINUE PROTECTION OF THE -- AND THE OTHERS HAVE OPEN SPACE OF THE SHARED AREAS. THIS MATERIAL SHALL INCLUDE TO HIS BANK SUCCESSORS IN TITLE TO ANY COMMITMENTS CONCERNING COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT AND ITS MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION. FRAGMENTATION TODAY IS FOR THE PLANNING BOARD TO MOVE THE PROPOSED REZONING OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR APPROVAL TO CITY COMMISSION WITH THE FOUR CONDITIONS. ULTIMATE RECOMMENDATIONS CAN BE APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITIONS OR RECOMMENDATION OF THIS APPROVAL AND JUST FOR SECURITY SAKE SO YOU GUYS CAN FEEL AT EASE, THIS IS THE ENGINEERING'S COMMENTS FROM APRIL 5TH SAYING THAT APPLICANT HAS MET THE CONDITIONS AND THIS IS

APPROVED. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. ALTIZER. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? FOR STAFF?

>> AS I UNDERSTAND, IT REQUIRES TOTAL SPOTS AND WE ARE ONLY MAKING THEM DO EAT PARKING SPOTS?

>> SO WITH THE PD, THEY GET A LITTLE BIT OF LENIENCY AND THERE ARE THREE OR FOUR SPACES ON THE ROAD PARKING. BECAUSE, SINCE THE PARCEL IS SO SMALL, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ROOM FOR THE PARKING TO MEET THE REQUIREMENT. SO, ON STREET PARKING IS BEING USED TO ALSO MEET THE ON-SITE PARKING TO

ENSURE THAT -- >> IS THERE ON STREET PARKING

NOW? >> NO. JUST GOT TO CUT IT AND CUT IN ON THE PROPERTY AND PUT PARKING SPOTS.

>> THERE'S GOING TO BE A COMBINATION OF CITY PROPERTY AND APPLICANTS PROPERTY . BEARING IN MIND THAT WE ARE TRYING TO SET UP A TEMPLATE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR THE CRA AND IMPROVEMENT FOR THE CRA. THIS IS THE REASON WHY AN APPLICANT WILL SPEAK OF THIS MORE THAN I WILL, I THINK. THE REASON WHY WE ENCOURAGED APPLICANT TO COME ALONG IN THIS DIRECTION IS WE DID NOT WANT TO SEE A 25 HE SAID THAT OFF OF FLORIDA STREET TO WHAT SHOULD BE IN THE CRA OF BUILDING WHICH FRONTS A GOOD SIDEWALK ON STREET PARKING AND GOOD LANDSCAPING. ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO SEE IN TERMS OF DESIGN, LAYOUT, PEDESTRIAN ACCESS IS IN THIS PLAN PURELY BECAUSE WE ENCOURAGED THE APPLICANT TO GO TO APD AND GET SOME FLEXIBILITY TO DO THIS.

>> WILL THOSE MUST BE OPEN TO EVERYONE, GENERAL?

>> THEY MIGHT NOT BE OPEN TO EVERYBODY, YES. BUT THE INTENT IS TO EVENTUALLY END UP WITH A STRAIGHT SECTION ON FLORIDA AND A LOT OF OTHER STREETS WHERE ON STREET PARKING IS MADE PART OF THE ACTIVITY OF WHATEVER GOES ON THAT STREET , AS YOU WOULD

HAVE IN A NORMAL TOWN. >> THANK YOU. AND, REVIEWING THE EXCEPTIONS PAGE IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED, JUST FOR CLARITY SAKE, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE REASON TO GO FOR PD OTHER THAN KEEPING IT IN THE COMMERCIAL

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>> I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE A GOOD APPLICATION BEING PRESENTED TO YOU. THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION BETWEEN STAFF AND THE APPLICANT ABOUT DESIGN, HOW IT WORKS, LANDSCAPING, HOW IT WAS TO BE ARRANGED ON STREET PARKING, ALL OF THAT WAS AGREED WITH STAFF AND IS PART OF -- AND YOU HEARD ME TALK ABOUT THIS BEFORE, IT'S A PART OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN THE CITY IS A GREAT THE APPEARANCE OF BUILDINGS IN THE CITY AND THE STATE SECTIONS OF THE CITY.

>> ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

>> I WOULD INVITE THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD AND INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROJECT. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE SIGN IN AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. MARCELLA CANDLER, AS WILL OF MARCELLA CANDLER ASSOCIATES . I'M THE PLAINTIFF OR THE APPLICANT AND AM RESPONSIBLE FOR WORKING WITH YOUR STUFF AND PUTTING THIS APPLICATION. MY OFFICE IS IN STUART 47 WEST IN STUART. EVEN THOUGH HAVE NOT BEEN IN FRONT OF YOU AS A BOARD AND A VERY LONG TIME, IT WAS DIFFERENT MEMBERS. I WAS FORMALLY THE URBAN DESIGN DIRECTOR FOR THE TREASURY PLANNING COUNCIL. I HAVE DIRECTED -- VERY FAMILIAR WITH FORT PIERCE AND IN DOWNTOWN I WAS VERY EXCITED TO WORK WITH HIS APPLICANTS WHO IS RELOCATING FROM NEW YORK , THE NEW JERSEY AREA DOWN TO FORT PIERCE AND IS TRULY TRYING TO INVEST AND AND FOR PROPERTIES AND REALLY CREATE A VERY WALKABLE ENVIRONMENT, WHICH IS VERY NATURAL TO HIM AS WELL.

SO, HE PICKED A FIGHT INSIDE THE CRA PURPOSEFULLY WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CODE AND EVERYTHING WAS GOING TO RENDER EVERYTHING IN THE BUILDING THAT PRIORITIZE THE PRODUCTION AND PRIORITIZE THE SIDEWALK ON STREET PARKING.

INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, TO OUR SURPRISE, AS YOUR PLANNING DIRECTOR HAS STATED , HE LOOKED AT THE SITE, IT WAS WITHIN 10 MINUTES WALKING DISTANCE OF DOWNTOWN. THERE'S A NUMBER OF RESTAURANT , IT WAS VERY ENTICING FOR THIS TYPE OF SPACE TO BRING MAYBE SOME PROFESSIONALS THAT CAN USE THIS AS AN OFFICE SPACE OR A CABINET BUILDER THAT CAN HAVE THE OFFICE IN THE FRONT AND PREP SPACE IN THE BACK WITH A LOT OF THINGS REALLY ACCESSIBLE. MUCH TO THEIR SURPRISE, THE USE COULD HAPPEN . BUT NONE OF THE RULES OF URBAN AND WORKABILITY WHERE PERMITTED DURING YOUR CONVENTIONAL ZONING FOR THE C-3 COMMERCIAL . PARKING WOULD HAVE PROBABLY BEEN ON THE FRONT AND BAKE SETBACKS IN A VERY SUBURBAN LAYOUT FOR WHAT WAS INTENDED AS A MORBID AND WALKABLE CRA SITE, WHICH IS WHY THE STAFF MENTIONED WHAT THE LANDINGS AND AWNINGS WERE WHICH IS WHY WE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME WORKING WITH YOUR STAFF TO UNDERSTAND THE INTENT OF THE CRA AND THEN RESPOND WITH THE BUILDING THAT IS COMPLETELY SQUISHED AND TURNED AROUND S A PLAN . I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS IS . I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS IS DOING THIS. YOU HAVE SEEN THE PLAN. THIS IS LIKE ROTATED AND SQUISHED. LET ME GO TO THE PREVIOUS ONE. IT'S UNFORTUNATE . I'M NOT GOING TO SHARE THIS, BUT IF YOU SEE NOW THAT IS WHERE FLORIDA AVENUE HERE IS .

YES, WE HAVE MOVED THE BUILDING WAS TO THE SIDEWALK . WE MADE A POINT TO LEAVE A VERY WIDE SIDEWALK TO ALLOW FOR COMFORTABLE WALKING AS PART OF THAT, WE SEE THAT DOTTED LINE, APPLICANT IS PROVIDING AN ADDITIONAL FIVE FOOT EASE TO MAKE IT A REALLY WIDE SIDEWALK ON STREET PARKING. THE POINT IS THESE BUSINESSES WILL BE FOR CUSTOMERS PARKING ON THE STREET AND THEN PEOPLE WORKING THERE CAN PARK IN THE REAR OR DELIVERIES CAN HAPPEN IN THE REAR AS WELL. THAT WAS A POSTER SHOWING WHERE THE EASEMENTS WERE. HE HAS SEEN THE STAFF IN LANDSCAPE PLAN AND ONE PLAN THAT NONE OF US UNDERSTAND, IS THE ONE MADE BY THE ENGINEERS THE ONE THE SHOWING ON-SCREEN. IT'S JUST A JOKE.

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THE SITE IS WHERE YOU SEE THESE TRUCKS PARKED THERE. AS YOU CAN SEE, EVEN THOUGH THE ZONING RIGHT THERE WOULD REQUIRE FOR BUILDINGS TO BE PUSHED BACK AND MORE SUBURBAN, MOST OF THE BUILDINGS ALREADY EXISTED AND ARE PRETTY URBAN. THERE FROM AN AREA WHERE THIS IS MORE WALKABLE THAN IT IS BEFORE . TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THERE IS NO ON STREET PARKING RIGHT NOW.

THERE'S STRANGE ANYWHERE PARKING.

AND LOOKING SOUTH OR SOUTHWEST, THIS IS THE ACTUAL CORNER, THE IDEA IS TO CREATE THIS INDUSTRIAL LOOKING, YET STILL WITH ELEMENTS OF FLORIDA VERNACULAR, THERE WOULD BE FOUR BASE . THE FRONT AGAIN IS OFFICE SPACE AND OR RETAIL SPACE WITH THE REAR BEING ACCESSED . I WILL SHOW YOU IN A SECOND. WE FIRST DECIDED FOR THESE DARKER COLORS FOR INDUSTRIAL. WE'RE GOING TO GO FOR THE WHITE. THERE'S A PLAN THERE'S A LOT OF WHITE DUST ACROSS THE STREET. WE FIGURED IT'S GOING TO HOLD A LITTLE BIT BETTER. YOU CAN SEE, ESSENTIALLY IT'S THE SAME EXACT CONCEPT. IT'S JUST GOING TO BE CLEANER. I WILL MATCH THE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET.

THIS IS A VIEW OF THE SITE FROM U.S. ONE . THERE STILL, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS FOR SALE AND PROBABLY FOLLOWING YOUR CODE ONE DAY WILL BE A THREE OR FOUR STORY BUILDING, THE BUILDING WON'T BE VISIBLE FROM U.S. ONE, WHICH IS WHY WE ARE PROPOSING THE ONLY SIGNAGE THAT IS NOT JUST A LITTLE BLADE SIGN . IT WILL BE IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS A LITTLE UNUSUAL BECAUSE WE KNOW IT WILL BE VISIBLE FROM U.S.

ONE. OTHER THAN THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I'M EXCITED THAT EVEN THOUGH IT TOOK THREE SEPARATE APPLICATIONS TO DO AN INFIELD BUILDING BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE IN ZONING , AND YES IS LARGER THAN PERMITTED THAT THIS APPLICANT IS COMMITTED TO JUST DOING WHAT I PERSONALLY THINK IS REALLY APPROPRIATE ARCHITECTURE FOR THE CRA. THANK

YOU. >> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I APPRECIATE YOUR CLIENT PATIENTS. WE ALWAYS HAVE NOTHING BUT GREAT THINGS TO SAY ABOUT OUR PLANNING STAFF . WE ARE REALLY WORKING HARD TO MAKE THESE PROCESSES AS EASY AS POSSIBLE FOR GOOD APPLICANTS SUCH AS YOURSELF. WE THANK YOU FOR COMING TO OUR CITY AND BUILDING, ESPECIALLY ON THESE IN LOT THAT REALLY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IMPROVED. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION? SEEING NONE, I WILL SEND IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR ANY

FURTHER DISCUSSION. >> I JUST HAD AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION ON PARKING. IS THERE REALLY ENOUGH PARKING? AS A BUSINESS OWNER, INKING IF I HAD A BUSINESS IN ONE OF THESE UNITS, THE 12 AND EIGHT FACES IN THE BACK PLUS THE FOUR IN THE FRONT, ARE THERE OTHER PLACES TO PARK FOR EMPLOYEES OR ADDITIONAL CLIENTS THAT THEY WERE TO COME INTO THIS BUILDING, WHERE DO YOU PARK? WHERE IS THE PARK? IF THEY ARE

ALL OCCUPIED. >> I DO KNOW THERE IS OTHER PARKING . THEY OFFER OTHER BUSINESSES AROUND THE AREA.

BUT I WOULD SAY, GIVEN WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED, PERSONALLY, I BELIEVE THE PARKING THAT IS GIVEN IS SUFFICIENT ENOUGH.

>> IF I MAY JUST ADD, THE BUILDING ITSELF IS ABOUT 7000 SQUARE FEET, THE AMOUNT OF OFFICE SPACE THAT WE WILL END UP HAVING WILL BE ROUGHLY 1500 SQUARE FEET, MAYBE A LITTLE LESS. SO, IT'S REALLY STORAGE SPACE IN THE WAREHOUSE SPACE IN THE REAR. SO, IT'S NOT THE SAME RATIO AS IF THIS BUILDING WERE COMPLETELY COMMERCIAL USED. IF THIS BECOME SO SUCCESSFUL THAT THERE IS SO MUCH PARKING , HOPEFULLY, OVER TIME, ON STREET PARKING WILL START DEVELOPING AS WELL AND OTHER PARCELS AROUND THE AREA AND IT'S A VALID POINT. RIGHT NOW, WE BELIEVE GIVEN THE REDUCED AREA OF OFFICE THAT WE ARE PROPOSING, IT SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT.

>> SOMETHING TO ADD TO THAT IS THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IS ONE OF THE LARGEST HEAT ISLANDS IN FLORIDA . THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF PAVEMENT THAT WE DO HAVE. WE REALLY NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT CREATIVE WAYS TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE LIMITING AMOUNT OF PAYMENT AND LOWERING OUR HEAT ISLAND.

IT'S ONE OF THE MAJOR CAUSES FOR CLIMATE CHANGE.

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PERMEABLE PARKING , WAS THAT IN CONSIDERATION FOR THIS? WOULD THAT BE IN CONSIDERATION FOR THE FUTURE? I THINK THE FUTURE 100%.

THE SITE MAP AND LOOK AT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES. THIS KIND OF EQUAL LEVEL OF UNDEVELOPED AREAS AND KIND OF ALONG THIRD STREET. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OPPORTUNITY FOR PARKING IMPROVEMENTS ON THIRD STREET . BUT TO THE APPLICANT'S POINT, IT'S KIND OF A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE. SO, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF PROVIDING ADEQUATE PARKING FOR THEIR FACILITY IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS AT SOME POINT, THE CITY HAS TO START PARTICIPATING AND DEVELOPING THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT PARKING AS WELL. AS MR. HENNING AND I KNOW WELL . ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE BOARD ? ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, HEARING NONE, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I BELIEVE WE HAVE FOUR

CONDITIONS . >> I'M UP FOR APPROVAL WITH

THE FOUR CONDITIONS STATED. >> SECOND.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH THE FOUR CONDITIONS BY MS. CUMMINGS AND A SECOND BY MS. CARTER. CALL

THE ROLL PLEASE. >>

[c. Zoning Text Amendment - Sec. 125-3 - General Definitions. Providing Consistency with the State Statute and the City's Comprehensive Plan.]

>> SAYS YOU. >> DR. FREEMAN, PLEASE TAKE IT AWAY. THANK YOU CHAIR AND BOARD. I'M GOING TO PRESENT YOU TODAY IS WE HAVE THREE TEXT AMENDMENTS IF YOU LIKE, TO THE CITY CODE. THESE ARE PART OF THE OVERALL STRATEGIC INVESTIGATION OF THE ZONING CODE IN THE CITY. WE HAVE IDENTIFIED A LOT OF CONFLICTS , A LOT OF INCONSISTENCIES .

MANY OF THOSE LEAD TO THINGS WE ARE TRYING TO WORK ON POSITIVELY, LIKE THE PROVISION OF HOUSING IN TOWN IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS USE OF SMALL LOTS IN TOWN AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD . WE'RE FINDING THAT PEOPLE COME IN WITH GOOD INTENTIONS. AND JUST LIKE THE PREVIOUS APPLICANT, WE DON'T HAVE THE CODE TO SUPPORT GOOD DESIGN , GOOD PLANNING, AND MOVING THE CITY FORWARD AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT ASPECTS. SO WHAT YOU ARE SINGLING FOR OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS ARE A NUMBER OF CODE CHANGES. THREE HERE TODAY , THERE WILL BE MORE COMING UP . AND THEY WOULD ALL BE RELATED . IT'S LIKE A DOMINO EFFECT. DO I HAVE STEPPED ARRANGE THESE CODE AMENDMENTS IS THAT SOME OF THE INITIATIVES AND CHANGES THAT YOU WILL SEE WITHIN THESE MAY NOT BECOME THE APPARENT UNTIL LATER ON IN THE PROCESS AS WE BRING THE CODES THAT THESE THINGS RELATE TO IN MORE DETAIL. SO, YOU SEE THIS FIRST ONE IS A GENERAL DEFINITION. THIS WAS PRESENTED TO THE LAST CUTTING BOARD, I'M THINKING IN THE MARCH MEETING. WE HAD COMMENTS ABOUT WORKFORCE HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING .

AND IT HAD A BEING INCORPORATED INTO THE DEFINITION. WE ALSO LOOKED AT OTHER DEFINITIONS THAT IF WE COULD MAKE EXTERNAL COMMENTS THAT WE ALSO ADDRESSED DURING THAT TIME. BUT ALL OF THESE THINGS , WE ARE TRYING TO CLEAR UP THE CONFLICT , WE ARE TRYING TO CLEAR UP WHERE THE ROADBLOCKS ARE WITHIN THE CODE . ALSO, LOOKING AT WHERE THE STATE IS, THAT ALSO A POTENTIAL ADDITIONAL CONFLICT WHERE THE STATE STOPS CHANGING THEIR WAY OF LOOKING AT THINGS. SO A LOOK AT STATE STATUTES AND OUR COPPERHEADS OF PLANS AND WE LOOK AT THE INTERNAL MECHANISMS OF OUR OWN CODE TO SEE IF WE CAN RATIONALIZE SOME OF THOSE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. THIS IS NOT

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SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THE CODE. THE DEFINITION GOES INTO SOME DETAILS IS NOT REALLY RELEVANT TO THE DEFINITION. WE SHOULD HAVE THE CODE REGULATE THESE OTHER THINGS , THE SETBACKS, THE DENSITIES, THE USES. WE'RE TAKING THOSE CODE REGULATIONS OUT FROM THE DEFINITIONS AND LETTING THE CODE YOU THEN THE FUTURE WHEN WE MOVE FORWARD AND LOOK AT WHILE THE COACH SHOULD ADDRESS THOSE. THE DEFINITION IS PURELY THE DEFINITION OF WHAT THE USE IS AND HOW IT'S CONTROLLED. WE HAD RECENT APPLICATIONS COME IN RELATING TO A FAMILY AMUSEMENT CENTER. WE FOUND THAT THE STATE HAS ASSIGNED A DIFFERENT DEFINITION OF THOSE AS IN PART FROM THE AMUSEMENT ARCADE, WHICH WE SEE BEING CLOSED DOWN THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY ARE BEING RUN. FAMILY AMUSEMENT CENTERS MORE LIKE, I CAN SAY AT DAVE AND BUSTERS TYPE OF ESTABLISHMENT, WHERE'S THE FAMILY GAMES WITH THE PINBALL, SKI BALL , ELECTRONIC BASKETBALL, ALTHOUGH SORT OF THINGS GROUPS OF CHANCE ARE ALL SCHOOL-BASED GAINS IN ALL MACHINES. SO, WE BROUGHT THE DEFINITION INTO OUR CODE. AND CULTURAL USE, WE DON'T HAVE A DEFINITION, WE DON'T HAVE AGRICULTURAL USE .

IN THE CITY. SO WHAT WE DO IS WE PUT IN AGRICULTURAL USE AND DEFINED THAT. AND YOU WILL SEE, POTENTIALLY, PEOPLE WANT THE CITY, THEY BOTH COUNTY, THEY MIGHT WANT TO KEEP THAT AGRICULTURAL USE AS PART OF THAT PROPERTY AS THEY COME INTO THE CITY. SO WE WANT TO DEFINE THAT , FURTHER MEMBERS OF THE CODE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW THAT IS OWNED IN THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN WOULD NEED TO BE AMENDED , WHICH IS JUST GOING TO BE TO ALLOW THE INNOCENT. THERE'S A LOT OF COMPONENTS TO THESE THINGS. IT'S LIKE DEALING WITH A SPIDER'S WEB. WE PULL ON ONE PIECE AND THREE OF THE STRANDS GET TORN OR BREAK . WE ARE WORKING OUR WAY THROUGH.

AGAIN, THIS IS THE FIRST STEP. YOU WILL SEE MORE COMING OUT.

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THAT'S NOT TODAY, BUT THAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIPE. WE ALSO LOOK INTO THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN AND THE WAY THAT DENSITY NET GROSS DENSITY, DEVELOPABLE AREA , FLOOR AREA, RATIO, LOT COVERAGE, DEFINED AND USED IN THE COMPRESSIVE PLAN. WE NEED THE ZONING REGULATIONS AND THE LANGUAGE IN THE ZONING REGULATIONS TO THE ROOF LIKE THAT. SO WE REMEMBER THOSE DEFINITIONS WITHIN THE CODE. SO, THERE'S BEEN SOME STATE STATUTES. THAT'S GOING THERE. I'M BEING CHALLENGED AT THE MOMENT BY VARIOUS MUNICIPALITIES. AT THIS MOMENT, WE ARE PUTTING IN THE DEFINITIONS FROM STATUTE .

MARGINAL HOME, MOBILE HOME, AND MANY HOME. THE STATE STATUTE, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION BETWEEN SOME DISABILITIES AND OTHERS ABOUT WHETHER THESE ARE CLASSED AS SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ZONING DISTRICT. SO, THAT'S GOING THROUGH LEGAL REVIEW AT THE MOMENT. NOT -- ALL WE'RE DOING HERE IS WE ARE NOT ALLOWING THEM. WE ARE NOT SAYING THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED, WE ARE JUST THIS IS WHAT THESE THINGS ARE. IN FUTURE IS THE CODE, CHANGES, WE HAVE THE STATE DEFINITION OF THESE IN OUR DEFINITIONS. SO, YOU SHOULD HAVE IN YOUR PACKET A LIST OF ALL OF THOSE DEFINITIONS IN THE ORDINANCE. SO, STEPH, AT THIS POINT, I RECOMMEND THE PLANNING BOARD TO MOVE THIS AMENDMENT OF SECTION 125-322 . THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVAL.

>> THANK YOU, MR. FREEMAN. IN THE DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? HEARING ON , I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THIS ITEM .

IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO THIS ISSUE? HEARING NONE. BACK TO THE BOARD, LAST CHANCE. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR CONCERNS? HEARING NONE, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. OR EMOTION. EXCUSE ME.

MY FIRST MEETING AS CHAIRMAN. I WAS HAPPY AGAIN. I WOULD

ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> IS THEIR PRESENT CONDITION?

>> WE WILL WAIT UNTIL WE CHANGE IT AND THEY WILL FIND THE THINGS WRONG WITH IT LATER ON.

>> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY MS. CLEMENTS, SECOND BY MR. HENNING. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

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[d. Zoning Text Amendment - City Code Sec. 125-212 and 125-213 (Planned Development Zone - PD)]

>> MOVING ON TO ITEM SIX D. ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT PLANNING

DEVELOPMENT. >> THANK YOU, CHAD. THIS ITEM LOOKS AT THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PART OF THE CODE .

THIS IS REASON NUMBER OF THE ACTUAL PROCESS WE HAVE IN PLACE AT THE MOMENT. IT'S RAISED A LOT OF DISCUSSION , WHERE'S THE CITY COMMISSION AND ISSUES WITH WHAT CONSTITUTES A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OR A CONCEPTUAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. AND THE ISSUE WITH THE CODE OF THE MOMENT IS WE DO NOT HAVE A GOOD DEFINITION OF WHAT IS THE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN OR A FINAL PLAN. THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN IS USUALLY AND VERY COMMONLY USED TO HELP AN APPLICANT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING TO BE ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY AND PLAN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

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AND, OBVIOUSLY, THE TIME SPENT BY BOARDS AND COMMISSION MEETINGS AND REVIEWING THESE THINGS AND CHANGING AND HAVING TO GO AND RIDE THE WAY BACK TO THE BEGINNING TO COME BACK FORWARD AS WE HAVE IT NOW. SO, WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO SECTIONS OF THE CODE, SECTION 125, 212 WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT ZONE AS WE HAVE IT NOW. AND, THAT LANGUAGE DOES NOT ALLOW A CONCEPTUAL PLAN. THAT SETS OUT FINAL DOCUMENTS, SITE PLANS, ENGINEERING, EVERYTHING REQUIRED AT THAT TIME EVEN THOUGH THE CITY AND HISTORY OF PLAN DEVELOPMENT HAS ACCEPTED CONCEPTUAL PRELIMINARY MASTER PLANS, IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR PLAN DEVELOPMENT. WE FOUND DURING A HEARING. THAT IS NOT ALLOWED IN THE CODE. SO , WE ARE SEEKING TO ADDRESS THE SITUATION. SO, WE ALSO HAVE 125213 PLANNED UNIT REDEVELOPMENT ZONE, WHICH IS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH DOES ALLOW CONCEPTUAL PLANS AND ELIMINATE PLANS . IT'S ALL UNDILUTED THAT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO FIGURE OUT, THIS NEEDS TO BE REFINED SECTIONS THAT DON'T EXIST IN THE CODE. IT'S REALLY COMPLICATED FOR APPLICANTS TO FIGURE IT OUT. IT'S COMPLICATED FOR STAFF TO FIGURE IT OUT . AND THE VALUE OF THOSE THINGS, AGAIN IS REALLY NOT CLEAR . SO, STAFF LOOKED AT THIS AND SAID WE JUST NEED ONE PROCESS , A CLEAR PROCESS TO WORK OUT THE WAY OF WHAT IS EXPECTED OF APPLICANTS AND WHAT IS EXPECTED OF APPLICANTS BY BOARDS AND THE PLANNING BOARD AND STAFF TO REVIEW THESE THINGS. SO, WE DID A LOT OF RESEARCH ON A BLAMELESS APOLOGIES AND AUTHORITIES AND THE WAY THINGS ARE DONE. WE WOULD HOLD THE THINGS DIFFERENTLY IN THE PLACES THAT WE WORK. AND THE LAND DURING THIS IS THE RING MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND A FINAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT. IN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE IS WHAT IS REQUIRED DURING THE APPLICATION PROCESS. SO, WE LOOK VERY CAREFULLY AT THE TYPE OF PLANS THAT ARE REQUIRED , KNOWING APPLICATION PROCESS, IN WHICH WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED ACCEPTABLE UNDER THE MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS, IF YOU THINK OF IT AS A CONCEPTUAL IDEA, STILL SET OUT SOME DISTINCT PARAMETERS. STILL HAS TO HAVE A SITE PLAN OF SOME FORM. HE STILL HAS TO HAVE CONSTRUCTION -- SORRY, ENGINEERING PLANS OF SOME FORM.

A LOT OF THESE THINGS, AND THE MASTER PD LIST AS YOU WALK DOWN THE LIST WITH A CAPITAL X IN THAT COLUMN, REQUIRED FOR A MASTER PLAN. EVERYTHING IN THE LIST FOR UNDER THE FINAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT IS REQUIRED AT THAT STAGE. YOU CAN SEE THAT SOME OF THE THINGS ARE NOT REQUIRED . APPLICANTS CAN PROVIDE THEM IF THEY WISH. THAT'S UP TO THE APPLICANT. AND THE PLANNING BOARD MIGHT FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF THERE WERE ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS OR SOME LIGHTING PLANS OR SOME LANDSCAPE PLANS ARE NOT FULLY REQUIRED . SOME PULMONARY IDEA OF THE LANDSCAPING AND STAFF WOULD BE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO SAY THE PLANNING BOARD WILL WANT TO KNOW , EARLY ON, THE TYPE OF LIGHTS GAPING THEY MIGHT BE USING. TO GET THAT CLEAR THAT EARLY ON. WE'RE NOT SAYING IT'S ESSENTIAL. WE ARE TRYING TO GET PLANTS COMING IN AND PROPOSALS COMING IN, WHICH HAVE THE LEAST IMPACT ON STAFF REVIEW IN THE LEAST IMPACT ON APPLICATION PREPARATION BY THE SITE OWNER. SO, WE CAN GET THINGS MOVING AND HIS THE MASTER PLAN. AS, IF YOU LIKE THE START OF A LADDER TO WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED IN THE FUTURE . IT WOULD THEN PROVIDE THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT , THE PLANNING BOARD , AND CITY COMMISSION SOME GENERAL IDEA OF WHAT IS COMING FORWARD. SO, A LOT OF THE ISSUES , A LOT OF

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THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A CHOICE TO GO AND DO ALL THE WORK AND COME IN WITH THE FINAL PLAN . THE FIRST STAGE.

THERE'S A LOT OF WORK AND ANALYSIS. AND YOU GET THE FULL IDEA OF THE DEVELOPMENT AS IT COMES THROUGH AND IT WOULD NOT BE APPROVED UNLESS YOU HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTS YOU WANT TO SEE.

SO, THE APPLICANT HAS THAT CHOICE. WHAT STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND IS AMENDING THE CODE AND MOVING THIS TO MAKING THAT RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL TO THE CITY

COMMISSIONER. >> THANK YOU, MR. FREEMAN.

>> THANK YOU. >> AND PREPARING TO TODAY'S MEETING SPECIFIC WAY, BECAUSE THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION , I WAS , I RELY SOMETHING IN THE PART OF THIS PROCESS THAT I THINK IS RELEVANT TO THIS DISCUSSION.

THERE WAS, BY THE WAY, WHEN YOU PREPARED THIS TEXT AMENDMENT, I COULD SEE WE JUST HIT THE RESET BUTTON . WE'RE JUST STRIKING OUT. ESSENTIALLY, THE ENTIRE SECTION AND REBUILDING IT FROM SCRATCH. THERE WAS ONE SECTION IN THERE, WHICH WAS PREVIOUSLY OR IS CURRENTLY H AND IS NOW GOING TO BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. BUT THE EXPIRATION OF A PD. I'M JUST BRING IT UP BECAUSE OF AN APPLICANT HERE THAT HAD A GREAT PLAN AND MADE A GREAT PRESENTATION . AND THEY ARE NOT APPLIED FOR APPROVAL OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, THEY ARE APPLYING FOR FUTURE LAND USE IN TO BECOME A PDR REZONING. TO BECOME A PLAN DEVELOPMENT PARCEL IN A SEA OF C-3, WHICH WE WANT TO APPROVE BASED ON WHAT WE WANT TO BUILD, WHICH WE ALL AGREE IS A VERY GOOD IDEA AND WE WANT TO SEE THEM MOVE FORWARD. BUT NOT ALL PLAN COMES TO FRUITION. NOT ALL PROJECTS COME OUT OF THE GROUND. WE HAVE BEEN DOWNTOWN FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS. AND I JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE PROCESS WITH WHICH A PARCEL OF LAND CAN GET IT ZONING CHANGE FROM ONE THING TO ANOTHER. AS THE PROJECT NOT GO ANYWHERE THEN THAT CHANGED, WHICH IS REALLY PREDICATED ON HAVING A SPECIFIC PLAN, GET KIND OF STUCK IN THAT SPOT. AND I LOOKED EVERYWHERE THROUGH THE ORDINANCE AND DID NOT SEE ANYTHING THAT ADDRESSED THIS. THERE'S AN EXPIRATION OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS SPECIFICALLY, BUT NOTHING ABOUT THE REZONING . I'M WONDERING IF IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO ASK HER THAT IDEA. IF WE RESIGNED TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT TO C-3

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>> AND I CAN ADDRESS THAT. >> YES.

>> THE NEW CODE WOULD BE EXPECTING A TIME TO BE AT .

THE DEVELOPMENT TIME SHOULD BE APPROVED ON THE SITE. FOR PHASES OR COMPLETION OF THE WHOLE SHOULD BE SET OUT AT THE TIME OF APPROVAL. SO, YOU HAVE A PHASING PLAN. IF IT WAS TO BE DONE IN ONE PHASE, THEY WOULD HAVE ANTICIPATED COMMENCEMENT , ANTICIPATED PERMITS , AND THEN ANTICIPATED FINAL COMPLETION OF OCCUPANCY. AND IF IT WAS OUTSIDE OF ANY OF THOSE THINGS, THE APPLICANT WILL COME BACK FOR AMENDMENT TO THE PD. SO, WE ARE SETTING OUT VERY PRECISELY AT THE START OF APPROVAL ON THE SITE PLAN. A TABLE THAT SET OUT THOSE DATES. THAT WOULD BE DISCUSSED . IS NOT ANY FORMAL .

IT EXPIRES IN X AMOUNT OF TIME BECAUSE WE WANT THAT DISCUSSION TO BE HELD AT THE TIME OF SITE UPON APPROVAL, BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE MAY BE OTHER AGENCY PERMITS REQUIRED AND WE KNOW THAT IF IT'S A DEP, PERMIT THAT COULD BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN SIX MONTHS AND 18 MONTHS, DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF WORK WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT.

SO WE WANT THAT TO BE FLEXIBLE. BOTH FOR STAFF AND APPLICANT TO BE ABLE TO DESCRIBE WHAT TIMELINES THE THEY WOULD NEED . JUST BECAUSE THE ACCIDENT DOES NOT MEAN TO SAY YOU'RE GOING TO GRANT THEM. BUT IT WILL BE A DISCUSSION POINT TO SAY WHEN YOU ARE GOING TO BREAK GROUND, WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS COMPLETED AND THAT WOULD BE SET OUT AS A TABLE APPROVED ON THE SITE PLAN. RATHER THAN JUST SAYING THIS EXPIRES ANY YEAR , IT DOES NOT GET THE FLEXIBILITY OR TIME TO GET AN EXTERNAL PERMIT, WHICH UNDER STATE STATUTES, WE CANNOT HOLD ANYTHING BASED ON BASE ON STATE STATUTE OR LEGACY PERMITS. I THINK WE GOT TO PUT THE APPLICANT IN THE POSITION OF EXPLAINING THE TIMELINE FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT RATHER THAN SET . I THINK A YEAR EXPIRATION OR ANY OTHER NUMBER IS JUST ARBITRARY IN THE SUSPECT. THAT CAUSES ISSUES WITH APPLICANTS . YOU MIGHT NOT BE AWARE OF THIS, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE THE EMERGENCIES THAT COME THROUGH BY THE GOVERNOR , THOSE DECLARATIONS OF EMERGENCY INCLUDE , USUALLY, A PARAGRAPH THAT SAYS PERMITS, DEVELOPMENT PERMITS CAN AND WILL BE TOLD FAR X NUMBER OF DAYS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS EMERGENCY DECLARATION. SO, WE CONSTANTLY RECEIVE THROUGH PD ANISH , REQUEST TO EXTEND THE TIMELINE ON THE STATE DECORATIONS OF EMERGENCE AND WE HAD TO TRACK ALL OF THOSE THINGS. BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL PD WOULD HAVE EXPIRED IN ANOTHER YEAR OR WHATEVER IS SET ON THE CODE.

SO, WE ARE CURRENTLY HAVING TO MONITOR THOSE AND APPLICANT'S CONSTANTLY HAVING TO MONITOR THOSE THINGS. EVERY TIME WE GET A DECORATION EMERGENCY, IT MIGHT NOT BE WRONG. EVERY TIME YOU HAVE A HURRICANE, IT MAY BE A YEAR OR THREE DECLARATIONS, EACH HAVING A TALL PERIOD FOR EXTENDING . THEN WE HAVE THESE REQUESTS WHICH WE HAVE TO CALCULATE WHEN THE APPLICATION WAS APPROVED, WHEN THE TOLLS WERE AVAILABLE, AND SOME OF THESE EXTEND THEM TO TWO YEARS , BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF DAYS AVAILABLE TO THEM. SO WE WANT TO GET SOMETHING , AND

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>> CERTAINLY. I THINK WITH AN APPLICANT THAT IS MAKING AN HONEST ENDEAVOR TO GET THE PROJECT OUT OF THE GROUND, GIVING THEM ALL THE REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME TO DO SO IS NECESSARY. I'M REALLY JUST MORE CURIOUS ABOUT THE PROJECT COMPLETELY DOES, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE ZONING OF THAT SPECIFIC SITE, DOES IT JUST STAY AS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT?

>> IS PHASE. WE DISCUSSED THIS WITH INTERNAL AND OUT SOURCED LEGAL REVIEW . WE DISCUSSED IT WITH APPLICANTS AND ALSO THERE REPRESENTATIVES. THIS CAUSE A PROBLEM. IF AGAIN, REVERTING A PD AS A PREVIOUS ZONING DESIGNATION. THAT SHOULD BE FOR THE SITE OWNER TO DETERMINE WHETHER THEY WANT TO GO BACKWARDS. IF THEY WANTED, THEY WOULD HAVE A PD ZONING. IT WOULD HAVE EXPIRED. YOU HAVE A CUT ON THE MAP, BUT YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT UNTIL YOU CAME BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD OR THE STAFF FIRST, THEN THE PLANNING BOARD FOR FURTHER NEW APPROVAL OF A PLAN DEVELOPMENT ON THAT PROPERTY . AND THAT COULD BE A RENEWAL OF THE SAME PLANS THAT WERE DONE IN THE PAST. HAVING SAID THAT, IF THE STANDARDS ARE CHANGED, THE CODE REQUIREMENTS TO STORE MORE OR SOMETHING ELSE CAN CHANGE OR FEDERAL PERMIT FOR LOCAL PERMITS OR STATE PERMITS HAVE CHANGED, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BRING EVERYTHING UP TO THOSE STANDARDS. SO, IF IT DID NOT EXPIRE, THE PD WOULD REMAIN. THE CHOICE WOULD THEN BE FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER TO SAY OKAY, I WANT TO REZONE IT BACK TO WHERE IT WAS AND I JUST WANT TO GO TO STRAIGHT ZONING. RUDE INVEST A LOT MORE INTO THE PLANNING ORIGINALLY ON THIS.

YES, WE UNDERSTAND SOME OF IT MAY BE OBSOLETE NOW , BUT WE'RE WILLING TO COME IN AND HAVE THAT WE INVESTIGATED AND REOPENED. AND DATED TO BE A COMPLETELY NEW STAFF REVIEW BASED ON THE STANDARD THAT EXISTED AT THAT TIME. THE APPLICANT DID WITH TO COOPER TO THE PLANNING BOARD AND JUSTIFY THAT AND MAY BE HELD TO MORE STRICTER TIMELINES OF

DEVELOPMENT. >> I THINK THERE'S -- I SEE YOUR POINT. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND IT. IT'S JUST I ALSO NOTE , FOR ME ANYWAY, IT MIGHT BE THIS WAY OR OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD THAT LOOKING AT A BUNCH OF SEE-THROUGH PROPERTIES AND AN AREA WHERE WE DON'T DOUBLE -- THE DECISION , WITH VERY LITTLE DISCUSSION GOING, REZONE IT. IT'S VERY TIRED. IT'S VERY SUBJECT. THE ENTIRE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IS. SO, I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT POTENTIAL SECONDARY APPLICANTS COMING IN -- THEY GET TO STEP A STEP.

>> IS THERE ANYWAY YOU COULD SKIP A STEP?

>> IF THE APPLICANT GOT PREAPPROVED OR GOT THE ZONING CHANGE AN APPLICATION AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, NOT BEING ABLE TO BUILD THAT PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND THE END OF THE PROPERTY, SOMEONE IS DAY IT'S ALREADY ZONED PD, I DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, I CAN JUST GO RIGHT TO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL PROCESS.

>> PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IS SYNONYMOUS WITH REZONING. SO, A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT COMES IN AND WE DESCRIBE IT AS A REZONING. IT USES THIS PROCESS. AND A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE PLAN OF ELEMENT IS IN FACT A NEW REZONING AND IT HAS TO COMPLY WITH THIS CODE AGAIN. SO, THERE ARE NO LOOPHOLES HERE FOR SOMEBODY TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO LET THAT EXPIRE, WE HAVE A PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND WE'RE JUST GOING BUILD WHATEVER WE WANT. YOU GET TO CONTROL -- YOU GET A SAY IN WHAT COMES FORWARD STAFF HAS A SAY IN WHAT COMES FORWARD . AS A COMMISSION OF THE FINAL VOTE ON THIS. ANYTHING THAT REQUIRES TIMETABLE, REDESIGN, ALTERNATIVE, USE IS TO SUCH AN EXTENT THAT IT CHANGES THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF WHAT WAS APPROVED GOES TO THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN. THERE IS NO

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APPROVAL. >> THAT MAKES SENSE, THANK YOU.

DID HE UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION?

>> I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. NOW, IT'S OPEN FOR ANYBODY TO BUILD IN THAT CITY SECTION WE MAY NOT LIKE. SO, I SEE BOTH SIDES , BECAUSE IT ALREADY APPROVED . THAT DEFINITELY HELPS THE NEXT GUY COME IN AND TO BUILD THERE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GO AWAY, THE FIRST IT'S NOT GOING TO GO AWAY. IF YOU ARE NOT APPROVED, THAT'S AN ISSUE.

>> IN CHANGING THE ZONE FOR THAT TYPE, YOU HAVE APPROVED THAT PARTICULAR SITE PLAN. AT THAT SITE PLAN CHANGES, YOU HAVE TO BE THAT. SOMEBODY CANNOT COME IN AND SAY I'VE GOT A PLAN DEVELOP MENTAL SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

>> I THINK WHAT MR. HENNE IS REFERRING TO IS THE UNIQUE NATURE OF PLANNING DEVELOPMENT. THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT SPECIFICALLY IS SO TIED TO THE REZONING AS YOU DESCRIBE. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE FOR EVERY TYPE OF REZONING, IS

IT? >> NOT TO REZONE TO A STRAIGHT ZONING. IF SOMEBODY CAME IN AND SAID I WANT TO DO IN OFFICE COMMERCIAL OR I WANT TO DO THIS ON WHAT WE JUST APPROVED WITH THE CORRECT SETBACKS AND EVERYTHING AND DID NOT BUILD IT, SOMEBODY THEN COULD BUY THAT AND LOOK AT THE C3 ZONING DISTRICT AND SAY I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT, I WANT TO DO THIS.

THAT WOULD BE THE C3 ZONING DISTRICT, THE PLANNING DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT. THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IN THE PROCESS WERE PLAN OF ELEMENT DISTRICT PROVIDES MORE CONTROL OVER WHAT THE CITY LOOKS LIKE DENTISTRY ZONING . A STRAIGHT ZONING JUST LOOKS AT THE USE, THE SETBACKS , AND THE PARKING AND LANDSCAPING IN THE STORM WATER . PROVIDING THEY MEET THOSE THINGS . SOME CASES, YOU WON'T EVEN SEE THAT. THAT IS AN ENTITLEMENT. THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE GET. A PLAN DEVELOPMENT IS A STRUCTURED AND FLEXIBLE PLANNING TOOL. THE REASON WHY WE HAVE TO USE IT IS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE UNDERLYING ZONING WHICH WOULD ALLOW THIS SORT OF GOOD DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU JUST APPROVED. I THINK WHAT YOU SAW JUST COME BEFORE YOU WAS IF WE HAD THE CORRECT ZONING, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE LIKE WE WOULD BE ENCOURAGING THAT SORT OF THING TO COME INTO THE CITY. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A ZONING , PART OF THESE THINGS THAT WE TRY TO DO IS TO FIX THAT . I THINK I LIKE PLAN DEVELOPMENT . BECAUSE IT DOES GIVE THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE CITY COMMISSION AND STAFF MORE SAY IN WHAT GETS BUILT . THERE IS NO SHORTCUT TO THAT. NOBODY CAN BUY THIS PROPERTY . AND WITH A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, PLAN THAT YOU JUST APPROVED IT NOW AND BUILD SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME IN AND OTHER A MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH YOU WOULD SEE THE WHOLE SITE PLAN, THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN, OR THEY WOULD COME IN FOR REZONING AND PACKAGES ENTAIL , I WANT TO SEND IT BACK TO C3. THEY DON'T HAVE TO PRESENT ANYTHING OTHER THAN SAY THAT'S C3, WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE INPUT ON THE MAP. WE WOULD BE HELD NOW TO , YOU'RE GOING TO ALLOW US TO BUILD ANYTHING IN THE C3 THAT MEETS THE CODE NOW. YOU CAN'T NECESSARILY WON'T GET A

SAY ON THAT. >> WHEN YOU DESCRIBED THAT, I CAN SEE THE SCENARIO OF SOMEBODY MIGHT WANT TO DO THAT.

BECAUSE, IF THEY ARE PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE WAS AN ENTIRE BUILD IN C3, THEY WOULD NOT EVEN HAVE TO COME BACK HERE.

ANY PD WOULD. >> JUST A VISION FOR INSTANCE, 301 FLORIDA AVENUE -- I'M SORRY? IT'S DISCUSSION. HOW DOES THAT TIE INTO EVERYTHING AS FAR AS WANTING TO BUILD SOMETHING, C3 VERSUS PD AND WE HAVE THIS 301 FLORIDA AVENUE , DO WE WANT TO KEEP THAT SAME THING THROUGHOUT THAT AREA AS SOMEONE COMES IN AND JUST BUILDS C3, HOW DOES THAT WORK?

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SUBJECT. ON YOUR GRAPH WITH THE EXIT, THE ONE THING THAT COMES TO MIND IS WHEN WE HAVE A CONDO GOING IN NEXT TO A TRUCK REPLAY PLACE , WE HAD A BIG DISCUSSION ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING AND HOW IT WITH SEPARATE THE TWO SO PEOPLE ARE NOT LISTENING TO THE TRUCKS RUNNING. YOUR X ON THERE IS NONE THE LANDSCAPE PLANS. BUT MAYBE THERE'S A WAY OF PUTTING A FLEXIBILITY THING WHERE STAFF CAN SAY IT WOULD BETTER COME TO THE BOARD WITH THESE THINGS ON THIS PROJECT.

>> YOU HAVE SOME GOOD QUESTIONS HERE. GOOD POINTS. BECAUSE, THE REASON WE DON'T HAVE A X THERE IS TO ALLOW THAT AND TO ALLOW THAT DISCUSSION ONLY TO TAKE THESE AS STAFF, BUT TO TAKE PLACE AS A PLANNING BOARD AS WELL. BEFORE THEY PREPARE

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THIS . >> I THOUGHT MAYBE EVEN AN ASTERIX NEXT TO THE X . SOME THINGS, YOU CAN PUT THEM AHEAD OF TIME, AND SAY THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE

NEEDED MAC FOR WHEN YOU COME. >> CERTAINLY.

>> CASINO X IS REQUIRED IS NOT GOING TO DO IT. BUT IF THERE SOMETHING THAT -- YOU SHOULD COME WITH A LANDSCAPE PLAN ON THAT ONE BECAUSE OF THE AREA FOR THE SURROUNDING BUILDING.

TO SAY THAT I WANT THE PLANNING BOARD TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT WITHOUT BEING CONSTRAINED BY SOMETHING THAT ALREADY BEEN

PREPARED. >> OKAY. THEY'LL HAVE TO DO THAT FINAL BEAUTY. YOU WILL SEE THAT FINAL PD. SO, THE MASTER PD IS THE VEHICLE TO GET ALL THE COMMENTS TO THE APPLICANT TO GET IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. TO GET SOME GOVERNMENT THAT IF YOU DO THESE THINGS, IS GOING TO BE LOOKED AT POSITIVELY. NO GUARANTEE. BUT IF YOU DO THESE THINGS, I CERTAINLY WOULD RECOMMEND YOU DID THEM AND WHEN IT COMES THROUGH TO ME NEXT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT COMMENT.

YOU'RE GOING TO GET A BIT OF PRAISE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR

INCORPORATING THAT BUFFER. >> IT'S A GREAT ADVANTAGE FOR DESIGN PROFESSIONALS TO BE GETTING THESE -- AND CERTAINLY REVISING LANDSCAPE PLANS OR ANY OTHER KINDS OF PLANS AFTER THEY COMPLETED BECAUSE THE APPLICANT DESIGN FEES. RECOMMENDED BUT NOT REQUIRED -- ANY OTHER

DISCUSSION ? >> I CAN CERTAINLY PUT AN ASTERIX . AND THE DRAFT RECOMMENDED.

CAN LEAVE IT OPEN FOR DISCUSSION OR PREPARE

SOMETHING. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ? I WOULD OPEN THIS ITEM UP TO THE PUBLIC. IS THERE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS? THE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SIGN IN.

>> ON SEVENTH AVENUE. I WAS NOT PREPARED TO SPEAK. BUT I'M PROBABLY THE ONE THAT HAS SUFFERED THROUGH THIS PROCESS THE MOST IN THE CITY. ACTUALLY CAME BEFORE YOU ALL FROM OUR PD IN SEPTEMBER , SEPTEMBER 11TH. THE STATE STATUTE SAYS HUNDRED 80 DAYS FOR TO BE APPROVED OR DENIED OR FOR THIS CONDITION AND I'M STILL WAITING TO GO FOR BECAUSE OF THIS. I HAVE OVER 250,000 -- IT'S CLOSER TO $500,000 IN PLANS THAT ARE USELESS BECAUSE WE COME FORWARD . YOU WANT THIS? DENIED PACO BACK. PLANNING BOARD SENT US TO MEET

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THOSE ARE NOT CHEAP. THE ARCHITECTURAL ENGINEERING AND EVERYTHING SO IS NICE TO COME TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AND THEN WE GO BACK. WE CANNOT PUSH UP ON THE GROUND THE TEACUP IS THE FINAL SITE PLAN. AND I'M SO FRUSTRATED AND WE KEEP COMING AROUND AND IT'S GOING TO BE BETTER THIS TIME AND IS NOT. AND WE WERE READY TO BE DONE. THINK OF IS YOUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT NOW, WE FINALLY CAME FORWARD AFTER WATCHING AND SEEING IN ALL THE DIFFERENCES THEY HAVE DONE.

OTHERWISE, WE WERE READY TO FILE SUIT AND MOVE ON . THE SOMETHING EVERYBODY NEEDS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AS ALL THESE APPLICANTS AND HOW MUCH MONEY AND HOW MUCH TIME. I STARTED THIS PROCESS IN 2017. 2017 AND THERE SO MANY MISTAKES MADE BY STAFF PRIOR TO THIS CURRENT STAFF THAT WERE WRONG INFORMATION , WRONG CONDITIONAL USE WITH APPROVALS. COMP PLAN EXPIRING. EVERYTHING HAPPENING AND GOING BACK NOW, CONCEPT OF THE PD, ONE LITTLE WORD THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY DECIDED TO COME OUT AND PICK OUT AND SEND EVERYBODY BACK TABLED SINCE SEPTEMBER. WE ARE IN APRIL? YOU NEED DEEP POCKETS TO KEEP GOING ON LIKE THIS. THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO LET PEOPLE LIKE US AND OTHER APPLICANTS COME THROUGH WITHOUT HAVING THE GREAT

EXPENSE TO DO IT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> MY NAME IS CHAD INGRAM. I DID NOT STAND UP BECAUSE I FULLY SUPPORT WHAT'S GOING ON AND I FELT LIKE I SHOULD STAND UP AND JUST SAY THAT TO YOU SO THAT IT'S UNDERSTOOD. IF YOU READ THROUGH THE CODE . I'M A NERD. I READ THROUGH IT SEVERAL TIMES. THE PUD, THE PRD , THE INNOVATIVE CODE , A LOT OF THEM ARE, THEY ARE USUALLY IN THE EXACT SAME LANGUAGE, BUT THEN ONE LINE SOMEWHERE IS MESSED UP. YOU DON'T KNOW WE SHOULD START, SO THIS IS GREAT CLEARING BRUSH PROCESS OF TAKING SOME OF THESE THINGS OUT BECAUSE THEY REALLY DON'T MAKE SENSE. WHEN YOU ARE SITTING THERE TRYING TO PUT YOUR PLAN TOGETHER TO HAVE TO COMPLETELY DEVELOP IT AND SPEND MY DRAWINGS FOR A SINGLE FAMILY LAW IS $25,000 JUST FOR THE DRAWINGS OF IT. IF YOU ASK ME TO CHANGE ANYTHING, I'M GOING TO HAVE A FIT BECAUSE GOING BACK TO THESE PEOPLE, I GOT TO GO BACK TO TRY TO BREACH SOMEBODY IN BANGLADESH WILL PUT TOGETHER A VIDEO OR SUBDOCUMENT FOR ME TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. I APPRECIATE THIS CHANGE. AND THANK YOU GUYS.

>> THANK YOU, MR. INGRAM. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. I WANT TO POINT OUT MR. INGRAM'S INPUT AT OUR LAST MEETING WAS DIRECTLY AFFECTED TO SOME OF THE WORK THAT OUR STAFF DID IN PUSHING THE DEFINITION FORWARD . THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

JUST TWO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. WHERE A LITTLE BIT IN A BUBBLE HERE . SO, HAVING THAT KIND OF INPUT WHEN IT'S AVAILABLE IS ALWAYS HELPFUL FOR US. SEEING MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, I WILL SEND IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.

>> I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION FOR IT. YOU THINK I COULD BE AN ASTERIX IN CONFERENCE TO THE LANDSCAPE PLANS. IS IT UNDERSTOOD, BUT APPLICANTS THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS ? IT'S ARTIE UNDERSTOOD?

>> IT'S PART OF THE PROCESS. AN APPLICANT DECIDES TO DO SOMETHING IN THE CITY , WE WILL, EVEN THOUGH IS NOT MANDATORY, WE WILL SET OUT A STAFF MEETING WITH THEM TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE SEE STRAIGHTAWAY . THAT THEY SHOULD BE AWARE OF . WE ALWAYS RECOMMEND AT LEAST THEY SHOULD TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS , NUMBER ONE. THAT'S THEIR DECISION, WE CANNOT FORCE THAT. WE WILL EVENTUALLY NOTIFY NEIGHBORS AND IT BEST IF THE NEIGHBORS KNOW ABOUT SOMETHING BEFORE WE TELL THEM. WE WILL GO THROUGH THESE

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THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN STAFF AND THE PLANNING BOARD, BECAUSE YOU ARE FIRST PUBLIC MEETING, IF YOU WOULD LIKE. YOU WILL BE SORT OF IN A WAY, THE MOUTHPIECE FOR THE CITY COMMISSION AND YOU ARE MAKING THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AS CITY COMMISSIONS. YOU HAVE A BIG RESPONSIBILITY. ALSO, WE ARE GETTING FEEDBACK TO THESE THINGS ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU. AND THEN WE ARE ABLE THEN , TO TALK TO THE APPLICANTS AS THEY COME IN AND RELAY THE PLANNING BOARD ARE MENTIONING THESE THINGS,

YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE. >> I ASKED THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I WOULD HATE TO HAVE PEOPLE PUT AN EXPENSE TOWARDS EVEN A DRAFT. THE DRAFT SOMETIMES CAUSE AS MUCH IS FINALS. IF THEY DON'T MEAN TO. IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE DISCUSSION, THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING, IS THERE REALLY A NEED FOR A DRAFT LANDSCAPE PLAN OR DRAWINGS OR THINGS

LIKE THAT. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THERE WAS. BECAUSE THEY MAY HAVE A PARTICULAR LANDSCAPING SCHEME THAT THEY WANT TO DESCRIBE. IT MAY BE MORE OF A RESILIENT LANDSCAPING SCHEME, A PART OF THE BENEFIT OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE EXPLAINED TO THE PLANNING BOARD. WE NEED TO SEE -- THE REASONS THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT IS THE CITY SHOULD BE GETTING SLIGHTLY MORE THAN STRAIGHT CODE. THAT'S THE REASON. THE APPLICANT GETS SOME ALLOWANCES, BUT THE PAYBACK IS THE CITY GETS BETTER DRAINAGE OR MORE PARKING OR MORE LANDSCAPING OR IMPERVIOUS SERVICE OR INNOVATION IN SOME OF THE WAY . THAT'S THE SORT OF THINGS I WANT APPLICANTS TO BE COMING IN AND SAYING AND I WANT THE PLANNING BOARD TO BE IN RETURN, SUGGESTING THINGS.

THAT BENEFIT THE CITY. >> FOR YOUR POINT, I CAN TELL YOU, PROFESSIONALLY, DESIGNERS WILL TYPICALLY DELIVER TO THE CLIENT STAGE OF THE DESIGN ALONG THE WAY. THAT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO HAVE EARLY DESIGNERS OF ANY OF THOSE THINGS THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE AT THE TIME THAT THEY GO FOR MASTER IF THEY ARE, THEY CAN BRING THEM IN AND THEY ARE GENERALLY ENOUGH THAT WE CAN SEE WHAT THEY'RE GOING FOR.

THEY JUST NOT FULLY DETAILED FULLY ENGINEERED OR CALCULATED.

ALL RIGHT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? FROM THE BOARD, HEARING ON, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> I MOVED FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY CLEMENTS, SECOND BY MS. CARTER, SHE BEAT YOU. CALL ROLE PLEASE.

>>

[e. Zoning Text Amendment - City Code Sec.125-187 - Allowed Uses]

>> THANK YOU, CHAIR AND BOARD. LET ME GET THIS UP. THIS, IS AGAIN THIS IS NOW LINKING IN TO SOME OF THE DESCRIPTIONS AND ALSO SOME OF THE OTHER PIECES OF CODE THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IN THE FUTURE. SO, AGAIN, WE DO HAVE IN THE TABLE OF USES , CONFLICTS. WE NEED TO PUT IN SOME USES AND ALLOW CERTAIN DISTRICTS AGAIN TO RESOLVE THE DIFFERENTIALS THAT WE SEE IN VARIOUS ZONING DISTRICTS. WE ARE ALSO STARTING TO MOVE INTO LOOKING AT HOW DO WE ENCOURAGE INNOVATIVE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT . NOW, WE DO HAVE A CODE SECTION IN THIS CODE OF THE MOMENT WHICH DEALS WITH INNOVATIVE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS. AS PART OF THE PIECE THAT WILL BE COMING FORWARD TO YOU . AND IF YOU

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>> THANK YOU, MR. FREEMAN. I LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE HERE. I THINK THIS IS A FANTASTIC IDEA. I'VE ALWAYS HAD A LITTLE BIT OF AN ISSUE WITH THE CONDITION OF TUS TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO EXTRACT OUT OF THIS ENGAGEMENT. AND I UNDERSTAND YOU WILL BE GOING TO THE INNOVATIVE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION AT SOME POINT AND TIGHTENING DATA AND BRINGING THAT TO US AS PREPARING FOR THIS MEETING AND - READING THROUGH IT AS IT EXISTS NOW. IT'S ALREADY SO MUCH BETTER THAN OUR STANDARD CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE EASIER FOR APPLICANTS AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE EASIER FOR US IN THE COMMISSION AS WELL TO REALLY SEE BETTER THINGS COME OUT OF IT. SO, THAT'S VERY GOOD. I HAD A FEW QUESTIONS ON THE DRAFT ORDINANCE , THERE'S PREVIOUSLY AT AN D. -- IT USES IDENTIFIED WITH A HYPHEN OR A DASH. AND ESPECIALLY PROHIBITED UNLESS GRANDFATHER APPROVED FOR THE CONDITION IS PROCESS AS REGULATED BY ARTICLE FIVE CONDITION USES . -- WE DO HAVE USES ALREADY EXISTING IN THE CITY AT THOSE ALREADY DO EXIST , I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD TAKE ON ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS TO MOVE THOSE UNLESS

THEY CHANGE. >> BUT IF SOMETHING IS PROHIBITED, HELLO THERE BE A CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS FOR IT

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? >> IT MAY HAVE BEEN SOME REQUEST IN THE PAST AND WE HAVE COME ACROSS THOUGH SOMETIMES , CONDITIONAL USE HAS BEEN GRANTED FOR SOME ACTIVITY WHICH IS NOW NOT PERMITTED IN THE ZONING DISTRICT. THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE PRIOR TO THE ZONING DISTRICT BEING IMPLEMENTED OR WHENEVER THAT WAS . I COME ACROSS THOSE.

>> THE WAY THAT IT'S WORDED, IT MADE IT SOUND TO ME LIKE IT COULD STILL BE APPROVED THROUGH FUTURE.

>> IS PRIOR TO CONDITIONAL USE.

>> YOU HAVE INCLUDED IN THE TABLE, I'VE HAD IT PRINTED OUT SOME USES OF FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT. DID WE RECONCILE THAT USE AS BEING SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO BE PERMITTED THROUGHOUT. OR IS THAT STILL --

>> THAT'S BASED ON THE ZONING DISTRICT. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ENABLING DIFFERENTIAL IS THE DEFINITION OF WHAT AL QAEDA IS. OVER A FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT CENTER IS. SO, HERE'S THE ARCADE SPECIFICALLY RESTRICTED DOWNTOWN. THE WORD OF THEM USERS IS NOT SPECIFICALLY. THE WAY WE HANDLE THAT IS TO SEPARATE THE DESCRIPTION YEARS OF STATE STATUTE LEAVE THE ARCADE CENTERS NOT BEING ALLOWED DOWNTOWN AND JUST CONCENTRATE ON THE FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT CENTERS BEING ALLOWED IN VARIOUS ZONING DISTRICTS WHICH ARE ALLOWED OUT OF DOWNTOWN.

>> ASSUMING THIS GOES THROUGH, THAT WAS TWO MONTHS AGO?

>> THAT'S PRETTY FAST FOR CITY GOVERNMENT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS , QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS FOR THE

BOARD? >> I HAVE ONE. IF WE CHANGE THOSE FOR CONDITIONAL USE INNOVATIVE, WHAT IS TO COME

THROUGH THE PLANNING BOARD? >> YES. YOU WILL SEE CODE CHANGES HOPEFULLY VERY SOON ON THE DEVELOPMENT PIECE OF THE CODE, WHICH WILL THEN ALLOW THE PLANNING BOARD TO BE IN THE PARAMETERS. YOU ARE ABLE TO DO THAT. I'VE TALKED TO THAT IN A SEPARATE TIME. -- TO COME TO THE PLANNING

BOARD. >> ANYTHING ELSE?

>> HEARING ON, I WILL BE IN THE PUBLIC VERSION OF THIS ITEM. IF THERE'S ANYBODY PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS? SEEING NINE, GO BACK TO THE BOARD, LAST CHANCE. I WILL

ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> SECOND . >> THAT'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY MS. COMES IN, SECOND BY MISS BACKS OF

HONEST. CALL RELEASE. >>

[8. DIRECTOR'S REPORT]

>> MOVING ON TO THE DIRECTORS REPORT. IF THERE'S ANYTHING

LEFT . >> THERE IS IN THE CLIPS OUTSIDE. I WAS GOING TO START TALKING ABOUT THE INNOVATIVE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE WORKING ON THAT NOW. IT WILL COME BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD AND YOU WILL SEE WHERE ÚPROPOSING ON THAT. WE HAVE CODE AMENDMENTS TO THE SIGN REGULATIONS. WE HAVE CODE AMENDMENTS TO THE DESIGN REGULATIONS. WE HAVE CALLED AMENDMENT TO THE LANDSCAPE REGULATIONS . MANY MORE PIECES OF THE CITY'S CODE OF ORDINANCES WILL BE COMING FORWARD. YOU WILL SEE THE PATENTS, HOPEFULLY THAT WE ARE TRYING TO ESTABLISH WITH THESE THINGS AS THEY COME THROUGH. RATHER THAN JUST DOING A BLOCK MASSIVE CALLED AMENDMENT TO DISSECT PIECES AND THEY WILL ALL BE LIKE DOMINOES FOLLOWING ONE TO THE OTHER. THE THINGS THAT YOU ARE PROVING TODAY OR RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR, WE WILL UNDERSTAND HOW THEY RELATE TO THINGS COMING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE, WHICH IS ALMOST LIKE A SUBLIMINAL EDUCATION THAT

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THE SCENES. >> THANK YOU. FINALLY, WE HAVE

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