[1. Call to Order] [00:00:18] >> I LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. IT IS MONDAY, AUGUST 12TH. PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> CALL THE ROLE LEASE. >> [4. Approval of Minutes] >> FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVED FOR THE MINUTES OF JULY, EIGHT, 24. >> RODERICK. >> GAMES. >> J PERRY JOHNSON. [6. Additions or deletions to agenda and approval of the agenda.] >> NEXT WE HAVE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. >> ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA? IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MOVE WE DO THE AGENDA AS APPROVED . >> NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC . >> ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS, [a. 2024 Annual Community Rating Service (CRS) Project Status Report presented by Paul Thomas, CBO, CFM Building Official.] PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NO MOVEMENT, LET US MOVE ON. >> WE HAVE THE RATING SERVICE PROJECT STATUS REPORT PRESENTED BY PAUL THOMAS. BUILDING OFFICIAL. >> MR. ANDREWS, DO YOU HAVE LEAD INTO BEST? >> NO, MA'AM. >> MR. THOMAS, PROCEED. >> GOOD MORNING, MADAME MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS . HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE A BRIEF AND INFORMATIVE PRESENTATION. LET ME GET MY TECH HERE WORKING. WE WILL NOT HAVE ANY SLIDES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT . THIS IS JUST GOING TO BE INFORMATIONAL. THE CRS PROGRAM IS THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM OR SERVICES PROGRAM. IT IS SPONSORED BY FEMA . IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN INFORMATION ON THE CRS PROGRAM YOU CAN GO TO FEMA.GOV . IT IS A FEDERAL PROGRAM . IT IS ALSO A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM. ALL THE COMMUNITIES THAT PARTICIPATE , THEY VOLUNTARY PARTICIPATE IN A ADOPTED ORDINANCE. THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE HAVE ENROLLED IN THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM PROGRAM AND THE GREATEST ADVANTAGE OF BEING IN THE COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM PROGRAM OR THE CRS, IS THAT YOU GET DISCOUNTS ON YOUR FLOOD INSURANCE -- ANYONE WHO LIVES IN A FLOOD HAZARD AREA , EVERY COMMUNITY IS RATED. WE HAVE A NUMBER . THE LOWER THE NUMBER, THE GREATER THE DISCOUNT FOR YOUR FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM. WE BEING A COASTAL COMMITTEE, THAT IS IMPORTANT. WITH INSURANCE RATES SKYROCKETING, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. CURRENTLY, THERE ARE TWO WAYS THAT THE CRS SYSTEM WORKS OR THE PROGRAM WORKS. EVERY FIVE YEARS YOU HAVE WHAT IS CALLED A CYCLE VISIT. THAT CYCLE VISIT IS WHERE YOU ARE DETERMINED IF YOU ARE GOING TO DROP A CLASS OR IF YOU ARE GOING TO GO UP A CLASS. THAT IS EVERY FIVE YEARS. THEY COME THROUGH AND DO A THOROUGH AUDIT OF YOUR CITY AND ALL OF THE PERMITS THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED IN THE SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA. AND THEY MAKE SURE YOU ARE FOLLOWING THE RULES . IF YOU ARE IMPLEMENTING DIFFERENT STRATEGIES TO REDUCE FLOOD RISK IN YOUR CITY. CURRENTLY, THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IS AT 86. THAT IS PRETTY AVERAGE FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THERE ARE ABOUT 400 -- THERE ARE 468 PARTICIPATING COMMITTEES IN FLORIDA THAT ARE IN THE CRS PROGRAM. THE WORST YOU CAN BE IS A 10 . THE BEST YOU CAN BE IS A ONE THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS ONE. IF YOU DO A ONE, YOU WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO BE IN COLORADO OR SOMETHING. DEFINITELY LIVE IN THERE, THERE IS A HANDFUL OF COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE REACHED A FOUR . FIVE AND SIX IS KIND OF THE AVERAGE. WE ARE AT A SIX. WE HAVE BEEN AT A SIX FROM OUR LAST CYCLE VISIT TO THIS ONE. OUR GOAL IS TO REACH A FIVE THAT IS WHERE WE ARE AIMING TO GO. UNFORTUNATELY, OUR CRS COORDINATOR WAS UTILIZED FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE TYLER SYSTEM. AFTER OUR LAST CYCLE VISIT WE HAD TO REPURPOSE OUR CRS COORDINATOR TO BRING SPECIAL PRODUCTS AND GETTING THE TITLE SYSTEM UP AND [00:05:02] RUNNING. NOW SHE HAS BEEN TRANSFERRED TO ACTUALLY -- OR SHE HAS ACCEPTED A POSITION IN THE I.T. DEPARTMENT PERMANENTLY WE WILL BE UTILIZING THE SERVICES OF A -- WHY CAN I NOT THINK OF THE WORD? >> CONSULTED? >> YES, WE WILL HAVE OUR CRS PROGRAM ADMINISTERED BY A CONSULTANT UNTIL WE CAN GET THAT POSITION FORTUNATELY, THE CONSULTANTS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS CURRENTLY THE CONSULTANT THAT MANAGES THE CITY OF PORTLAND -- PORT ST. LUCIE AND SOME THE OTHER COUNTIES. SHE IS EXTREMELY CAPABLE AND OUR COMMUNITY FITS RIGHT INTO WHAT SHE'S DOING. WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. THE REASON FOR THIS REPORT IS THAT IN ADDITION TO THE FIVE YEAR CYCLE VISIT, THERE IS AN ANNUAL RECERTIFICATION. BASICALLY, IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO GET YOU THROUGH THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM, IF THEY GIVE DISCOUNTS , THEY HAVE TO MAKE SURE EVERY COMMUNITY IS ACTUALLY FOLLOWING THE RULES AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING THE WORK. IN THE PAST WHEN I TOLD YOU ABOUT PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA AND WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES AND THERE IS NO FLEX . IF WE DO FLEX OR TRY TO TURN THE OTHER CHEEK OR IGNORE THE POLICIES AND RULES , IT CAN JUST DEVASTATE THE COMMUNITY AND WE COULD LOSE OUR FEDERAL ASSISTANCE FOR FEMA . THIS IS WHAT THAT ANNUAL UPDATE -- THIS REFERRED INDICATION -- RECERTIFICATION. BASICALLY, THEY COUNT EVERY PRODUCT WE DO IN THE SPECIAL FLOOD AREA BUT NOT AS NEW CONSTRUCTION BUT IF SOMEONE PUTS A GENERATOR IN AND MAKES AN ADDITION ON THEIR HOME. ARE WE FOLLOWING THE RULES? THEY CATALOG EVERY PROJECT AND THEN THEY PRODUCE A REPORT AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND IT TELLS US HOW MANY PROJECTS WE DID AND HOW MANY OF THEM ARE COMPLIANT. WHEN I COME TO YOU AND I MAKE THESE PRESENTATIONS AND I SAY WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL IT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE REALLY WATCHING. OBVIOUSLY, THE PROGRAM IS THROUGH FEMA BUT IT IS ADMINISTERED THROUGH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. ON THE LOCAL LEVEL OR THE STATE LEVEL, WE HAVE TO GIVE ALL OF OUR ELEVATION CERTIFICATES AND SHOW EVIDENCE OF INSPECTIONS -- EVERYTHING THAT IS WATCHED UNDER A MAGNIFYING GLASS. I THOUGHT THERE WAS A QUESTION. I AM VERY HAPPY TO SAY THAT LAST YEAR CYCLE VISIT WE HAD 213 PROJECTS THAT WERE CONDUCTED IN THE SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA AND THEY ONLY HAD A QUESTION ABOUT ONE OF THEM. WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT WORKED OUT. THIS YEAR, WE HAD A 92 PROJECTS IN THE SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA AND ALL 92 PER 100% WERE SATISFACTORY. WE DEFINITELY ARE DOING WELL WITH OUR CRS PROGRAM AND MANAGING THAT . THE STATE IS VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT AND THE CITIZENS OF FORT PIERCE DEFINITELY BENEFIT THOSE WHO HAVE PROPERTIES IN THE SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA. JUST A COUPLE OF UPDATE. IN CONNECTION WITH OUR CRS PROGRAM OR OUR FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT. CRS IS PART OF OUR FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. RECENTLY, THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE HAS ADOPTED OR WE HAVE ACQUIRED A PROGRAM. THE PROGRAM IS CALLED FORERUNNER. I DON'T KNOW WHO THE PERSON IS THAT FIGURE THIS THING OUT. THEY ARE AN ABSOLUTE GENIUS. THEY TOOK EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATION AND THEY CONSOLIDATED INTO ONE PROGRAM THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY RUN OFF AN APP ON YOUR PHONE . WHEN YOU HAVE AN ELEVATION CERTIFICATE AND YOU BUILD A NEW STRUCTURE IN A FLOOD HAZARD AREA AND HAVE TO HAVE ELEVATION CERTIFICATE AND YOUR FORM BOARD SURVEY, IT RECORDS IT AND IT HAS EVERYTHING THERE. IF YOU HAVE A DISASTER AND YOU GO TO EVALUATIONS AFTER THE DISASTER, IT IS CONNECTED WITH GIS AND YOU CAN TAKE A PICTURE AND IT IS LOGGED IN ONE PLACE AND YOU CAN SEND A REPORT TO THE STATE. ALL OF YOUR INFORMATION IS IN ONE PLACE. THE CRS IS MANAGED IN THIS ONE PROGRAM. IF YOU'RE DOING FLOOD REVIEWS FOR SOMEONE BUILDING A GARAGE OR MODIFYING SOMETHING, EVERYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATION IS ADMINISTERED IN THIS ONE APP. THAT IS GREAT. FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATION IS LIKE AN OCTOPUS, MANY DIFFERENT ARMS. YOU HAVE ONE PROGRAM THAT HANDLES EVERYTHING WELL, THAT IS A TREMENDOUS BLESSING. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS AN ADVANTAGE IS THAT JUST THIS WEEK, WE REQUESTED -- THIS WAS AT OUR REQUEST . WE SAID, WE HAVE A PROGRAM. WHAT IF YOU [00:10:10] HAVE A MAJOR, MAJOR EVENT AND THEN YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY CELL TOWERS ARE YOUR ELECTRONIC SERVICES UP? THEY FINALLY GOT US THE ABILITY TO USE THE PROGRAM OFF-LINE . THEY CAME JUST FRIDAY AND WE HAD A MEETING WITH THEM. IN THE EVENT WE HAD A CATEGORY 5 EVENT AND WE WERE DOWN FOR WEEKS, WE STILL CAN USE THIS SYSTEM. REALLY, YOU ONLY HAVE A BRIEF WINDOW TO COLLECT THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED OR ELSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL NOT REIMBURSE . EVERY TIME YOU HAVE AN EVENT , IF YOU HAVE SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE . LET US SAY YOU HAVE STORM SURGE. AND MANY OF YOUR HOUSES ARE FLOODED. THOSE INDIVIDUALS WILL CONTEST IT . JUST BECAUSE WE GO OUT AND TAKE PICTURES , THEY WILL SAY, THE VALUE OF OUR STRUCTURE IS TWO TIMES WHAT YOU SAID IT WAS. WE DO NOT AGREE WITH YOUR EVALUATION. THIS PROGRAM ALLOWS US TO TAKE THE PICTURES. ONCE YOU'RE THERE, HERE IS THE DAY, LOCATION -- WE CAN PROVE WE WERE THERE . IT IS ALL DOCUMENTED. WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THAT. THAT WILL HELP US OUT A LOT. JUST MAYBE SOME THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND AS IT RELATES TO CRS AND THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND HOW WE CAN WORK TO GATHER TOWARDS THE GOAL OF RISK MITIGATION . IN ORDER TO REALLY BE PROFICIENT WITH THE CRS PROGRAM OR FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATION AS A WHOLE, TYPICALLY, A PERSON WILL RECEIVE A LICENSED CALL CFM OR A CFM , A CERTIFIED PLAN -- CERTIFIED FLOODPLAIN MANAGER. THAT GIVES YOU THE TRAINING TO BE ABLE TO START TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE CRS WORKS. IT IS ACTUALLY EXTREMELY COMPLICATED. WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATION IS IS THAT AS IT IS RIGHT NOW IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, WE HAVE THREE CFM'S. ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO THE COMPUTER DEPARTMENT. THAT WILL LEAVE US WITH TWO BUT WE WILL STILL HAVE A CFM IN THE CITY. ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS TO ENCOURAGE EVERY DEPARTMENT THAT IS INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE PERSON, IF NOT MORE BECOME A CFM. ONCE YOU ARE A CFM IT IS AT YOU GET A FLOOD OF BRAIN. YOU CAN LOOK AT YOUR PROCESSES. YOUR ORGANIZATION AND YOU CAN SAY, MAYBE THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO THAT CAN ASSIST. IN ORDER TO GET FROM A SIX TO A FIVE , WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME -- LET US SAY THE LOW HANGING FRUIT WHEN YOU'RE SIX, ALL OF THE LOW HANGING FRUIT HAS BEEN PICKED. NOW YOU HAVE TO DO SOME HEAVY LIFTING. YOU HAVE TO START MAKING SOME POLICY CHANGES . FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN IMPLEMENT HIGHER STANDARDS FOR CONSTRUCTION AND SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREAS. MAY BE IMPLEMENTING DEED RESTRICTION REQUIREMENTS ON OPEN SPACE FOR NEW DEVELOPMENTS. FOR CRYING THAT THERE IS NO FELL IN A SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA. THAT MEANS NO FELL . IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD AND SATISFY YOUR BASELINE ELEVATION, YOU ARE GOING ON STEM WALLS AS OPPOSED TO PHIL. ALL OF THESE THINGS WILL REQUIRE ORDINANCES. THEY MAY BE CONTESTED AND NOT POPULAR. IN ORDER TO CONTINUE MOVING THE COMMUNITY DOWN IN OUR RATING, THOSE ARE THINGS -- THOSE ARE CONSIDERATIONS WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE. THE MORE CFM'S THAT YOU HAVE, THE MORE EYES THAT YOU HAVE LOOKING AT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE BUT FROM DIFFERENT ANGLES. I WILL BE HONEST, I AM NOT INVOLVED WITH WHAT PUBLIC WORKS DOES WITH DRAINAGE. OR PARKING OR WITH ROADS. ALL OF THAT IS STILL CONNECTED IN THE CRS PROGRAM WITH PLANNING AND ZONING. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT IT DOES FOR THEIR ORDINANCES FOR THE COMMUNITY. IF WE HAVE CFMS IN THOSE DEPARTMENTS THEY CAN LOOK AT THEIR PROCESSES AND IT CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE SUCCESS OF OUR CITY AS A WHOLE. INTERESTING, THE CITY OF GROHL HAS ONE OF THE LOWEST CRS IN THE STATE WHICH THEY MAY BE AT A FOUR. AND THERE CITY MANAGER AND SOME OF THEIR COMMISSIONERS ARE CFMS. THEY HAVE CFMS THROUGHOUT THEIR WHOLE ORGANIZATION AND IT MAKES A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE . INSTEAD OF ME SAYING, I AM TALKING ABOUT THIS CRS STUFF , NOW [00:15:05] EVERYBODY ACTUALLY UNDERSTANDS IT AND WE CAN MOVE IN ONE DIRECTION. INTERESTINGLY, WITH OUR CRS PROGRAM, IT FOLDS DIRECTLY INTO RESILIENCE. CRS IS ABOUT RISK MITIGATION, ULTIMATELY. YOUR COMMUNITY IS RATED ACCORDING TO HOW WELL YOU ARE DOING MITIGATING RISK. AND REALLY RESILIENCE IS VERY CLOSE TO THAT. WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT, THERE IS MONEY THAT IS AVAILABLE . YOU ARE TRYING TO GET MONEY TO IMPLEMENT MITIGATION PROJECTS. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT. OUR LAST POINT IS THAT EVERY YEAR IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, THERE ARE TWO ORGANIZATIONS -- WELL, THREE. THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS BARE. THEY CONNECT DIRECTLY WITH FEMA. THE ASSOCIATION OF ESTATE FLOODPLAIN MANAGERS, THEY ARE THE ORGANIZATION THAT PROVIDES THE TEST AND CERTIFIES FLOODPLAIN MANAGERS. WHEN YOU GET YOUR CERTIFICATION YOU GET THAT THROUGH THE ASFPM THEY WILL DO CONFERENCES AND TRAINING PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. THE FLORIDA FLOODPLAIN MANAGER ASSOCIATION IS THE ASSOCIATION THAT IS THE MOST PROMINENT WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT AND TRAINING FOR CFMS AND THOSE INVOLVED IN FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATION THROUGHOUT THE STATE. ANNUALLY WHEN I COME BACK TO AND I SAY, I WENT TO THE CONFERENCE AND I HEARD THAT ONE OAK TREE TAKES 200 GALLONS OUT OF THE WATER TABLE, THESE ARE AT THE FFMA CONFERENCES. IT IS PHENOMENAL WHAT WE LEARN. I WANTED TO SHARE JUST A FEW INSIGHTS FROM THE LATEST CONFERENCE THAT WE HAD THAT WILL HELP US TO UNDERSTAND WHY THE WHOLE FLOOD PLANE ADMINISTRATION IS VALUABLE BECAUSE IT GIVES US A VILLAGE LOOK FORWARD RESILIENCE IN MIND AS WE SEE , THE FIRST TIME I CAME TO THE COMMISSION I GAVE HER REPORT AND I SAID THAT THE TRENDS, AS WE WERE TOLD, IS THAT WE WOULD EXPERIENCE WETTER AND WETTER SEASONS AND DRIER DRY SEASONS. THAT WAS A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND THAT IS DEFINITELY TRUE. THE INSIGHTS NOW ARE IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO -- YOU KNOW, THAT IS THE SAME. WHEN IT COMES TO THE WATER THAT WE RECEIVE , THE AMOUNT OF WATER, THE NUMBER OF INCHES THAT THE STATE OF FLORIDA RECEIVES IS GOING TO STAY THE SAME. THE CHALLENGE IS IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET THAT WATER IN FEWER EVENTS. WHAT THAT MEANS IN THE WINTERTIME, AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN DROUGHT STAGE. THE WATER TABLE DROP AND EVERYTHING DRIES OUT IN THE SUMMERTIME, YOU WILL HAVE THESE INUNDATIONS , WHERE YOU GET THE WATER BUT WHERE DOES IT GO? IT RUNS OFF INTO THE LAGOON . IT DOES NOT GET TO RECHARGE YOUR AQUIFERS. AS WE MOVE INTO THE FUTURE, THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE ABOUT HOW WE USE OUR WATER , THESE THINGS BECOME EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. HEAT , YOU KNOW, HEAT ISLANDS -- CITIES BECOME HEAT ISLANDS WHEN YOU START NEW PROJECTS. DO WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO PUT TREES AND DO NOT CUT DOWN AS MANY TREES CAN THOSE ARE CONSIDERATIONS WE MAKE. NATIONALLY, WE ARE IN A HEAT WAVE RATED THERE IS THE REALITIES WE ARE GOING THROUGH NOW. HOW DO YOU MITIGATE THAT WITH IN YOUR COMMUNITY? IT IS EASIER TO THINK AHEAD THEN TO TRY TO RETROFIT SOMETIMES. WE WILL BE HAVING MORE INTENSE STORMS AS THE OCEAN WARMS UP. WE NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT. ONE INTERESTING THING WITH HURRICANE MICHAEL IN THE BIG BEND AREA AND HE DESTROYED SO MANY TREES AND THAT IS WHEN THEY FIND OUT HOW MANY TREES OR HOW MUCH WATER A TREE, LIKE A MATURE OAK TREE -- WHAT THEY ARE FIGHTING NOW IS BECAUSE THAT AREA HAD SO MUCH VEGETATION MOSS. JUST HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF ACRES DESTROYED. THE WATER TABLE HAS RISEN . WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT NOW, WHEN YOU HAVE THESE EVENTS, THE GROUND DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO ABSORB AND STORE THE WATER. NOW, YOU HAVE MORE PROBLEMS WITH DRAINAGE BECAUSE IF YOU CANNOT GET THE GROUND TO ABSORB THE WATER AND DO NOT HAVE THE TREES TO TAKE THE WATER OUT SO YOU CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE YOUR SYSTEM WORKING, THEN YOU REALLY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO WITH THIS WATER. FORTUNATELY, WE ARE A COASTAL COMMUNITY. TYPICALLY OUR DRAINAGE WILL HEAD BACK OUT INTO THE LAGOON. AFTER [00:20:08] HURRICANE IAN, IF YOU MEMBER THE CENTER OF THE STATE FLOODED AND YOU CANNOT GET ACROSS FROM EAST TO WEST. WHAT DID THEY DO THAT WATER? IT WAS THAT WAY FOR QUITE SOME TIME. THESE ARE SOME OF THE INSIGHTS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GETTING FROM THESE CONFERENCES BUT WHEN YOU ARE A CFM, YOU GO TO THESE CONFERENCES AND YOU CONTINUE TO LEARN AND RECEIVE TRAINING. IN PRESENTING THAT TO THE COMMISSION AS SOMETHING TO BE ENCOURAGED THROUGHOUT THE ORGANIZATION. OUR CRS SCAR NATIONAL SCORE IS BENEFITED BY THE NUMBER OF CFM THAT WE HAVE THE CAP IS AT FIVE. SOME COMMUTERS HAVE 15 OR 20. JUST PRESENT THAT FOR THE FUTURE. I THINK THAT IS THE END OF OUR REPORT AND I WILL ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS. >> I HAVE A COUPLE. WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO BE A CFM? >> THERE IS A TEST THAT YOU TAKE. ALL OF THE MATERIALS ARE ONLINE AND THE TRAINING MATERIALS ARE THERE. TYPICALLY, THEY WILL OFFER THE TEST AT THE CONFERENCES AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE STATE. THERE IS AN INVESTMENT. IN OUR DEPARTMENT WE HAVE ASSOCIATED A 5% SALARY INCREASE FOR OBTAINING THAT LICENSE BECAUSE IT IS MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL LICENSE TO HAVE THE PERSON THAT WENT TO IDEAL -- I.T. STILL HAS A CFM , SO WE CAN CUT THAT PERSON TO WRITE >> YES. >> RESILIENCE MONEY THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE, IS THAT THROUGH THE STATE OR FOR THE FED? >> TYPICALLY, IT IS KIND OF BOTH. THE FEDERAL MONEY USUALLY IS DISTRIBUTED THROUGH STATES AND THEN YOUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES WILL CONNECT THEM WITH THE MONEY THAT WAY. SOMETIMES YOU CAN GO DIRECTLY TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT USUALLY IT IS THROUGH THE STATE. >> THAT MIGHT BE ONE OF THE PROJECTS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TO ENCOURAGE AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. ALSO, SOME YEARS BACK AT THE COUNTY HAD A PROGRAM WHERE THEY WERE LIFTING HOMES AND PROVIDING MONEY THROUGH A FEDERAL PROGRAM, I BELIEVE. IS THAT A PROGRAM THAT IS IN EFFECT NOW OR COULD BE IN EFFECT? >> TYPICALLY THE WAY THAT WORKS, THERE ARE GRANT PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE BUT THEY ARE AFTER AN EVENT. IF YOUR HOUSE IS DAMAGED AND YOU HAVE TO ELEVATE THE STRUCTURE -- >> YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL YOUR HOUSE IS DAMAGED BEFORE YOU CAN LIFT IT? >> BEFORE THOSE FUNDS BECOME AVAILABLE THEN. I THINK THAT THERE IS A SHOT TOWARDS GOING TO SAYING, IF A PERSON DOES NOT WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THEIR HOME IS DAMAGED BEFORE THEY ELEVATE, CAN HAVE ACCESS? THAT IS IN THE PROCESS. >> RIGHT NOW, IT IS AVAILABLE BUT YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL AN EVENT AND THEN YOU HAVE TO APPLY FOR IT AND BE GRANTED IT? IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES, MA'AM. >> ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS ? COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. >> YOU MENTIONED THERE COULD BE A PRIORITIZATION LAST FOR PROJECTS THAT THE CITY WOULD WANT TO ENTERTAIN WITH THAT FALL IN YOUR JURISDICTION TO COME UP WITH A SHORT LIST OF PROJECTS TO TARGET TO IMPROVE OUR RATING? >> THE CRS PROGRAM IS COMPLETELY ADMINISTERED WITHIN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. TO IMPROVE R RATING , TYPICALLY WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD -- THAT IS A PRETTY INTERESTING QUESTION. I'M STARTING TO UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. THE CRS PROGRAM MAY BE ADMINISTERED IN THE BILLING DEPARTMENT. REALLY, LIKE I SAID, IT IS AN OCTOPUS WE DEAL WITH ENGINEERING QUITE FREQUENTLY. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT GIVES US INFORMATION FOR IT WHEN IT'S TIME TO COMPILE THE REPORT, ESPECIALLY THE FIVE-YEAR CYCLE REPORT, WE ARE GETTING INFORMATION AND DATA FROM MANY ASPECTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO WHAT ARE THE PROJECTS WE NEED TO DO TO IMPROVE OUR SCORE, THOSE ARE PRETTY FINITE. THERE IS A BOOK THAT SAYS, HERE'S WHAT YOU DO AND YOU GET A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF POINTS FOR THE BOOK. THE MORE POINTS YOU OBTAIN THEN YOUR SCORE WILL EITHER INCREASE OR DECREASE WHETHER OR NOT WE GET THE BUY IN TO DO THAT BECOMES THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION AT TIMES OR IF WE HAVE FUNDING FOR IT OR FEASIBLE. >> YOU WAS AIRPORT BACK AS WHAT YOU CONSIDER TO BE THE PRIORITY IN THE AREA? >> CERTAINLY, YES, SIR. THAT WOULD GIVE US A SNAPSHOT WHERE WE STAND RIGHT NOW AND WHAT TO PRIORITIZE. SECONDLY , THE EASIER QUESTION. REGARDING THESE CONFERENCES WERE TO GIVE THE TESTING CAPABILITY TO BECOME A CFM, I ASSUME YOU RECEIVE NOTIFICATIONS? >> YES, SIR. >> CAN YOU GIVE THOSE TO THE CLERK AND SHE CAN NOTIFY THE COMMISSION ON THOSE TAKE PLACE. I THINK THERE IS SOME INTEREST TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT. I KNOW I WAS REALLY HAVE AN INTEREST. >> QUICKLY, PIGGYBACKING OFF OF THAT. FROM A COMMISSION [00:25:04] STANDPOINT, OBVIOUSLY, THE MORE PEOPLE THAT COULD GET THE CERTIFICATION WOULD HELP WITH THAT AND HAVE MORE EYES ON IT. I THINK THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, COMMISSIONER. WE PROBABLY NEED SOME APPEAR WITH PEOPLE OF EXPERTS IN RETIREMENT. I THINK THIS MAY BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. YOU MENTIONED THAT AS THE SCORE GETS LOWER, IT BENEFITS THE CITIZENS AND THEIR RATES OF INSURANCE. CAN YOU GIVE ME AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IT WENT FROM, I THINK WE'RE CURRENTLY RATED SIX AND OUR GOAL IS TO GET TO FIVE. CAN YOU HELP THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND THAT? >> AT A SIX, EVERYONE HAS A FLOOD INSURANCE POLICY GETS A 20% DISCOUNT. AND THAT IF WE WOULD GO TO A FIVE, IT BECOMES A 25% DISCOUNT. FOUR IS A 30% DISCOUNT BUT IT JUST GRADUATES IN 5% INCREMENTS. WE MET WE BROADCAST AND WE PUT OUT IN OUR CITY WHERE THE FLOODPLAIN AREAS ARE. IF YOU ARE NOT IN A FLOODPLAIN AREA AND YOU TOOK OUT THIS FLOOD INSURANCE , YOU WOULD STILL BENEFIT FROM GETTING A DISCOUNT BUT YOU DON'T MESS I HAVE TO LIVE THERE BUT IS BASED ON HOW YOU GET YOUR POLICY, I AM ASSUMING. AND THEN YOU BENEFIT THAT THE INVESTMENT OVERALL THAT THE CITY MAKES TO BUILD THIS RESILIENCY AND TO DO THAT BENEFITS THE ENTIRE CITY. THAT IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT TO HELP THE CITIZENS. THE WAY TO LOWER INSURANCE RATES IS FOR US TO TAKE SOME STEPS TO LOOK AT HOW WE DEAL WITH -- OBVIOUSLY, WE ARE DOING GOOD BECAUSE OF THE PROJECTS WE HAVE. WE ARE 100% COMPLIANT. THOSE STANDARDS ARE VERY STRICT AS TO WHAT WE ALLOW AND HOW WE ALLOW THINGS TO BE DEALT IN THE FLOODPLAIN AREA . >> ABSOLUTELY. >> I NEEDED TO SAY THAT. THE REAL QUESTION IS, HOW MUCH IS AN INVESTMENT TO BE A CFM? WHAT IS THE BALLPARK, GENERALLY? >> REALLY, IT IS JUST TIME. >> IT IS 5000 -- WHAT IS THE INVESTMENT? I HAVE NO IDEA. I AM CURIOUS. >> THE CONFERENCE TYPICALLY , MAY BE $500-$700 A YEAR TO GO TO THE CONFERENCE BECAUSE WE STAY OVER AND WHATNOT. WE MET ONCE YOU GET THIS , IS IT A CONTINUOUS COURSE ? YOU HAVE TO SO MANY HOURS AND RESTART? >> THAT IS PRECISELY WHY THE CONFERENCES ARE VALUABLE. YOU CAN PIECEMEAL ALL OF YOUR CEU. THE CONFERENCE OFFERS EVERY CEU THAT YOU NEED FOR A YEAR. IF YOU GO, AFTER SO MANY IN TWO YEARS. >> THANK YOU. >> THAT IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR , THE INVESTMENT OPPORTUNITY. ARE THERE OTHER AREAS WE CAN IMPROVE UPON , WHETHER BE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT OR CAPITAL PROJECTS? DOES THAT HELP WITH OUR RATING AT THIS POINT OR DO WE ALREADY TAKE CARE OF THAT? >> IT DOES. ONE OF THE THINGS -- IF YOU CAN COMPREHEND WHAT FEMA IS TRYING TO DO. FEMA IS BROKE . IT DOES NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO CONTINUE TO DEAL WITH THE DISASTERS THAT THE DISASTERS CONTINUE TO BE WORSE. WE, AS A COMMUNITY, SAY WE HAVE PEOPLE ARE LIVING ON THE ISLAND AND LIVING IN -- THIS IS THEIR DREAM HOME. WE HAVE A FLOOD EVENT AND OUR HEART GOES OUT TO THE CITIZEN BUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAYS, THIS IS A RISKY PLACE. IT IS BETTER TO NOT HAVE ANYTHING THERE. YOU HAVE TWO LINES OF THOUGHT. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO SAY EITHER YOU MITIGATE THE RISK OR YOU GET RID OF THE HOUSES. YOU LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED WITH SUPER STORM SANDY IN NEW JERSEY ON THE EAST COAST, THEY HAVE BEAUTIFUL HOMES THAT IS BEEN FOR SO LONG. THEY ARE DONE. THEY ARE GONE NOW BECAUSE THEY CANNOT REBUILD THEM. THAT IS WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WANTS BECAUSE THEY CANNOT CONTINUE TO AFFORD TO REPAIR. THEY CALL IT REPETITIVE LOSS. THEY CANNOT AFFORD REPETITIVE LOSS. THE OBJECTED OF FEMA IS NOT TO SAY, LE US KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY EITHER THERE IS INVESTMENT TO SOLVE A PROBLEM OR REMOVE IT. THAT MEANS IN A COMMUNITY LIKE FORT PIERCE , ONE OF THE THINGS WE COULD DO IS CREATE OPEN SPACE. FOR INSTANCE THERE ARE PROPERTIES THAT MAY COME AVAILABLE ON THE RIVER. WE HAVE RIVER MARINE AREAS, NOT SPEECH OR COASTAL. THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS. IF WE HAVE THE FUNDING TO PURCHASE PROPERTIES AND SAY, WE WILL TURN THEM INTO PARKS OR LET THEM BE OPEN SPACE, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE GREATEST WAYS YOU CAN GAME POINTS. THOSE ARE THE HARDEST WAYS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WATERFRONT PROPERTY IS WATERFRONT PROPERTY. IT IS THE MOST DANGEROUS AND MOST [00:30:01] VALUABLE. IT IS VERY VOLATILE. THAT IS WHY WE ARE SAYING IF WE GET MORE CFM'S AND WE GET THE BUY IN AND EVERYONE IS LOOKING AT FROM THE SAME PERSPECTIVE, THERE IS A BALANCED APPROACH. YOU CANNOT GO ALL ONE WAY OR THE OTHER . >> WE CAN RELY ON JACK AND THE TEAM TO COME UP WITH OTHER OPERATIVES WITH OPEN SPACE, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT ZONES OR ACQUIRING PROPERTY . MY OTHER QUESTION REGARDING THE PUBLIC AND THE CITIZENS. IF I WERE WATCHING THIS MEETING TODAY , IT SOUNDED LIKE EVERYTHING IS DONE BY THE CITY BUT IT IS REALLY NOT. THERE ARE COUPLE ELEMENTS THAT YOU MENTIONED EARLY ON LIKE AN ELEVATION CERTIFICATE. IS THAT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PRIVATE CITIZEN? >> YES, IT IS YOU WOULD HAVE AN ELEVATION CERTIFICATE PROVIDED BY A SURVEYOR. >> THAT ALSO AFFECTS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN WITH LAST TIME I DID RESEARCH ON MY FLOOD INSURANCE, PERSONALLY, THAT THERE IS A FEW CHECKBOXES YOU HAVE TO DO ON THE PRIVATE SIDE. OF COURSE THE RATING HELPS REDUCE THE RATE BUT THERE IS SOME ELEMENTS THAT HAVE TO BE CHECKED SO THAT YOU CAN GO FROM , YOU KNOW, $3000 POLICY TO $1000 POLICY -- WHAT EVER IT IS THOSE BOXES DO NOT INCLUDE THE CRS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. THAT IS JUST THE BASICS OF YOU HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE, WE NEED TO KNOW A LITTLE MORE ABOUT YOUR PARTICULAR RESIDENCE. IS THAT ACCURATE? >> THAT IS ACCURATE. THERE IS A CHANGE THAT FEMA IS WORKING ON NOW. THEY ARE CALLING IT RISK RATING 101 OR 1.0 OR WHATEVER IT IS. THE OLD WAY OF THINKING IS YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY WITH A READING NUMBER AND YOU GET A 25 OR 20% DISCOUNT. IT IS EQUALLY APPLY TO EVERYONE. NOW WHAT THEY ARE SAYING IS THE HOUSES THAT ARE CLOSER TO THE DUNE A.R.M. LOAN -- ARE MORE VULNERABLE THAN ONES A MILE OR TWO IN THERE TRYING TO ASSESS RISK ON THE ACTUAL VULNERABILITY OF THE PROPERTY. THERE IS A CHANGE THAT IS GOING. HAVING THESE DISCOUNTS REALLY MAKES A DIFFERENCE. >> THERE ALSO VIOLATING CANALS , PONDS AND THOSE THINGS FREE >> ABSOLUTELY. >> THAT IS WHY THEY UPDATE THE MAPS AND THEY JUST UPDATED THE MAP, HOW LONG AGO? >> I THINK IT WAS TWO YEARS AGO. THAT WAS JUST THE COASTAL AREA. THE INLAND AREA HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED RECENTLY. >> THANK YOU. >> REAL QUICK BRENT I'VE HEARD COMMISSIONER JOHNSON AND COMMISSIONER JOHNSON TALK ABOUT THE EFFECT ON THE A COMMUNITY. JEREMIAH JOHNSON JUST TALK ABOUT CHECKING THE BOXES. IT IS EASY TO SIT UP HERE AND SAY, CHECK THE BOXES AND DO WHATEVER. DO WE HAVE ANY TYPE OF PROGRAM , FLYER, OR EMAIL SENT OUT OR ANYTHING TO REALLY EXPLAIN TO THE RESIDENTS , IF YOU DO THIS, YOU MIGHT GET THIS DISCOUNT. HOW DID THEY DO THIS TO GET THE DISCOUNT? IT IS EASILY SAID BUT IF WE DON'T -- I HATE TO SAY HOLD THEIR HAND BECAUSE IT PEOPLE GET MAD IF WE HOLD HER HAND OR SHOW THEM HOW TO DO IT, IT WILL NEVER GET DONE. I DON'T WANT TO PUT ANYTHING ON YOUR PLATE BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND. LET US THINK ABOUT, EVEN IF THERE IS A PODCAST, LIKE WE HAVE DONE BEFORE. EXPLAINING SOMETHING TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WHEN YOU SAY INSURANCE DISCOUNTS , SAVE ME MONEY, PEOPLE WILL WATCH THE PODCAST AND WATCH THE FIRE. OR GIVE IT TO US AND LET US GO TO OUR RESIDENTS TO SAY, MAYBE I NEED TO HOLD A TOWN HALL IN MY AREA AND INVITE EVERYBODY AND HAVE SOMEONE FOR COMMON SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO . FROM WHAT I AM HEARING, THE MORE PEOPLE THAT DO IT, THE NUMBER INCREASES AND THIS IS WHAT YOU REALLY WANT IN MY HEARING THAT WRONG? >> THE MOST IMPORTANT TAKE AWAY IS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DISCOUNTS FOR FLOOD INSURANCE POLICY, NOT FOR REGULAR. >> ANY DISCOUNT THAT WE CAN GET THE RESIDENTS OF FORT PIERCE, WE NEED TO TRY TO DO IT BUT EVERY LITTLE BIT HELPS. I GOT YOU ON THAT . WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FLOOD INSURANCE. DON'T SAY MR. GAINES, YOU SAID INSURANCE. I DID NOT SAY THAT I SENT FLOOD INSURANCE. EVEN WITH THE FLOOD INSURANCE, WE NEED TO SHOW THEM HOW TO DO IT OR MAKING IT AS EASY AS POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO GET TO THE AREA WE TRY TO GET THEM TO GOAL. A SAYING THIS IS WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IS NOT GOING TO GET DONE. I'M TRYING TO MAKE YOUR AND JACK'S LIFE A LITTLE EASIER. IF WE SHOW THEM HOW TO DO IT, IT HELPS OUR NUMBERS OUT AND WHAT EVERYONE IS SAYING HELPS [00:35:01] OUR NUMBER GO DOWN. >> ABSOLUTELY. ANNUALLY, WE SEND FLYERS OUT WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF THE FPU A. WE SEND FIRES OUT TO EVERY PROPERTY OWNER THAT HAS PROPERTY IN A SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD AREA AND WE DO INFORM THEM YOU ARE GETTING THIS BECAUSE YOUR PROPERTY IS IN A SPECIAL FLOOD HOWARD -- FLOOD AREA. WE DO DO THAT. WE ABSENTLY ARE. I JUST LOVE THE WAY YOU THINK AND I THINK HAVING EVERYONE'S MIND WORKING THE SAME WAY ABOUT MAKING A PRESENTATION OR PUTTING SOMETHING ON CCTV, WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS THOSE THINGS AS WELL. DEFINITELY, WE ARE GOING THAT WAY. >> THE DIRECTOR OF -- IS NOT HERE. HE HAS HEARD ME SAY THIS 1000 TIMES. THOSE ANSWERS WE PUT IN. I'M BEING HONEST WITH YOU. THE INSERTS WE PUT IN THE BELLS AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF , I'M JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU. BY THE TIME PEOPLE SEE THE BILLS EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE COMING DOWN, THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE INSERTS. KEEP PUTTING THEM IN BUT I AM BEING HONEST WITH YOU. THEY DO NOT READ THE INSERTS. IF WE CAN DO THE PODCASTS OR SOMETHING, I THINK IT WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND IT WILL GET THE DESIRED EFFECT OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. GREAT JOB. >> MADAME MAYOR, AND ALL COMMISSIONERS, THE GOAL WE ARE WORKING ON IS TRYING TO USE FEEL -- FILL POSITIONS. THE THOUGHT THAT I HAVE AS THE FLOODPLAIN ADMINISTRATOR AND THE RESILIENCE THAT YOU KNOW WHAT I CALL MYSELF. >> GROUP. >> THAT GUY. NOT ONLY TO SAVE THAT WE WILL DO VIDEO PRESENTATIONS THAT WE CAN BROADCAST TO THE PUBLIC, NOT ONLY LETTERS AND NOT ONLY THROUGH ELECTRONIC MEDIA BUT WE WANT TO SCHEDULE MEETINGS WITH COMMUNITIES. LET US GO TO OCEAN VILLAGE. LET US GO TO HARBOR ROCK. ANYBODY WHO HAS A QUESTION, WE ARE GOING TO BE THERE TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS FOR YOU , FOR LARGE COMMITTEES AND SMALL. UNFORTUNATELY, WE DO NOT HAVE THE PERSONNEL TO SUPPORT THAT BUT I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT IS THE DIRECTION THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IS MOVING IN. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> GOOD POINT THIS IS A CHANCE TO PARTNER WITH OUR SMALL BUSINESSES AND INSURANCE AGENCIES. THEY ARE GOING TO BE THE ONES GIVING THE NUMBERS. THEY WILL GIVE THE DISCUSSION POINTS ON WHAT FLOODPLAIN THE RESIDENTS DECIDE -- RESIDES IN BUT IT IS GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE THOSE PRIVATE RESOURCES AND PARTNER. THEY ARE BASICALLY THE EXPERTS. YOU ARE THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THE PLAN. I ALSO HAD A RECENT MEETING . IT WAS A TOWN HALL BUT WITH REPRESENTATIVE OF ALL SKIING. WE WENT INTO AND TALKED ABOUT INSURANCE. SHE AND I PARTNER TOGETHER AND THERE'S ALL KINDS OF OPPORTUNITIES. >> SPEAKING OF THAT, I HAVE SCHEDULED A TOWN HALL HERE IN THE CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS, SEPTEMBER EIGHTH ON INSURANCE. YOU OBVIOUSLY NEED TO HAVE FIGURE WAY INTO THAT SOMEHOW. THAT CERTAINLY IS PERTINENT TO WHAT SHE IS TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE DO. >> MADAME MAYOR, I WROTE THE DATE DOWN. I GOT IT. >> I DON'T KNOW THE TIME YET. MAYBE 5:00. IT IS TENTATIVE RIGHT NOW. >> ONCE WE NEED -- >> WE NEED TO -- CERTAINLY, THE COMMISSIONERS NEED TO KNOW BUT THE CITIZENS NEED TO KNOW TOO. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WHO KNEW THAT FLOOD MANAGEMENT COULD BE SO EXCITING. >> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA [b. Adopt-A-Road Program Update] IS ADOPT THE ROAD PROGRAM UPDATE >> YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO EAT INTO THIS? >> MS. MARSHA CAMARDA WILL GIVE A PRESENTATION ARE ADOPT A ROAD PROGRAM. >> WELCOME. >> GOOD MORNING , MADAME CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. JUST AS JACK INTRODUCED I AM HERE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE ADOPT A ROAD PROGRAM. WE KNOW THE ADOPT A ROAD PROGRAM IS A COMMUNITY OPPORTUNITY FOR MEMBERS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE TO PARTICIPATE IN HELPING TO KEEP OUR CITY CLEAN. LITTERING IS OF CONCERN AND I BELIEVE THAT THE ADOPT A ROAD PROGRAM IS A TERRIFIC WAY IN WHICH WE CAN ENGAGE PEOPLE IN A FUN AND INTERESTING WAY SO THEY CAN MAKE AN IMPACT AND GET SOME SENSE OF OWNERSHIP IN THE COMMUNITY TO HELP KEEP IT CLEAN. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I DO WANT TO PREFACE THIS PRESENTATION. I WILL GO THROUGH THE DETAILS ABOUT THIS PROGRAM [00:40:04] IS IN ADDITION TO SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE HAVE RECENTLY MADE TO THE PROGRAM TO MAKE IT MORE EFFECTIVE. IT HAS BEEN OUR OBSERVATION THAT THE PROGRAM HAS NOT SEEN MUCH PARTICIPATION FROM THE CURRENT REGISTRANTS, IN GENERAL. OUR GOAL IS TO HOPEFULLY BRING MORE ACTIVITY IN THE PROGRAM , INCREASING ACTIVITY. MAKING IT MORE EFFECTIVE SO THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY SEEING THE IMPACT AS WELL WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WILL GO THROUGH WHAT SOME OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE AND FEEL FREE TO LET ME KNOW. OUR PROGRAM OVERVIEW. THE ADOPT A ROAD PROGRAM PROVIDES OPPORTUNITIES FOR INDIVIDUALS , BUSINESSES, CLUBS AND CHURCH ORGANIZATION TO ADOPT A HALF-MILE SEGMENT OF A CITY MAINTAINED ROADWAY . PARTICIPANTS CAN HELP KEEP OUR CITY CLEAN BY AGREEING TO PICK UP LITTER AND TRASH PUT A MINIMUM OF 12 TIMES A YEAR I WILL EXPLAIN THIS A BIT PREVIOUSLY, THE PROGRAM REQUIRED ONLY FOUR TIMES A YEAR. I THINK THAT HAS BEEN THE GENERAL PRACTICE OF OTHER PROGRAMS BUT WHEN WE CONSIDER THE UNIQUENESS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES OF OUR COMMUNITY, IT IS WITHIN STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT WE INCREASE THAT TO 12 TIMES A YEAR SO WE CAN SEE THE LEVEL OF IMPACT THAT WE ARE HOPING FOR THE PROGRAM. NOT ONLY IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR A LITTLE EXERCISE BUT ORGANIZATIONS WILL RECEIVE RECOGNITION IN THE FORM OF A SIGN LOCATED ON THEIR ADOPTED ROADWAY. OUR PROGRAM GOAL IS TO REDUCE LITTER ALONG ALL CITY OF FORT PIERCE ROADWAYS TO KEEP THE SURROUNDING ENVIRONMENT CLAIM, INCLUDING SWELLS, CANALS AND SOME WATER INLET. LESLIE TO REDUCE LITTER OVER ALL BY INCREASING PUBLIC AWARENESS. HERE ARE THE GUIDELINES THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON OUR CITY'S WEBSITE AS IT PERTAINS TO THIS PROGRAM. I WILL GO THROUGH EACH OF THEM BRIEFLY. THE FIRST IS THAT THERE IS AN ONLINE APPLICATION TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM. SECONDLY, BY PARTICIPATING IN THE PROGRAM THEY ARE COMMITTING TO COMPLETE A MINIMUM OF 12 CLEANUPS PER YEAR. THAT IS A NEW PROVISION. THE NEXT IS ADOPTING HALF A MILE, LIKE I SAID EARLIER. FOUR, SIGNS WILL BE INSTALLED AFTER APPLICATION APPROVAL . WE HAVE STAFF IN-HOUSE THAT ACTUALLY PURCHASES AND HAS THE SIGNS FABRICATED IN OUR STREETS ANDRADE'S DIVISION INSTALLS THE SIGNS THEMSELVES. VOLUNTEERS CAN REQUEST FOR SUPPLIES LIKE BAGS, PICKS AND SAFETY VESTS. THE NEXT SAFETY TIPS ARE ALSO OFFERED SO OUR PARTICIPANTS KNOW TO BE SAFE AS THEY ARE DOING THESE CLEANUPS. WE UNDERSTAND THERE IS TRAFFIC AND OTHER CONCERNS THAT CAN BE OUT THERE. THERE IS A LIST -- SOME ARE TO WEAR SAFETY VESTS , WORKERS NEED TO STAY OUT OF THE TRAFFIC LANES AND MEDIANS. AND THEY MUST PICK UP TRASH IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ONLY. LIKE I SAID, THAT IS ON THE WEBSITE. IT IS A PINS ARE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE THE ONLINE LITTER CLEANUP REPORT FORM. THIS NEW GUIDELINE IS CRITICAL TO US BEING ABLE TO MEASURE OUR IMPACT . SECONDLY, I BELIEVE THERE IS ALSO A BENEFIT THAT THIS DATA CAN ALLOW FOR -- MAYBE MR. ANDREWS CAN SPEAK ON THIS. FROM THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT FOR THE STORMWATER SECTION, THERE ARE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES THAT IF THEY ARE PROVIDED DATA LIKE THIS IN REGARDS TO CLEANUP EFFORTS , THEY CAN ONLY BE A SIMILAR POLLUTION THAT ENTERS THE SYSTEM THAT CAN BE A BENEFIT TO THE CITY. PREVIOUSLY PARTICIPANTS HAD TO SEND AN EMAIL TO STAFF TO REPORT ON THEIR CLEANUP. I FIND THAT THIS WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE COLLECT THE DATA THAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF THE WORK THAT IS BEING DONE AND THEN JUST COLLECTING THE DATA SO WE CAN GAUGE OUR PROGRESS OVER TIME. EIGHT , TRASH REMOVAL CAN BE LIKE A FOOL BUT LITTER CLEANUP REPORT FORM. IT SHOWS ANOTHER PURPOSE. VOLUNTEERS CAN ASK TO HAVE THEIR BACKS PICKED UP THROUGH THIS FORM. LASTLY, IF PARTICIPANTS DO NOT MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS AFTER ONE YEAR , THEY WILL FORFEIT THEIR ADOPTED ROAD FOR OTHERS TO ADOPT. THIS IS CRITICAL FOR US AS WELL. SIMPLY BECAUSE DUE TO SOME OF THE INACTIVITY, WE UNDERSTAND THERE WILL BE A NEED FOR ACCOUNTABILITY IN THE PROGRAM. JUST SO THAT FOLKS UNDERSTAND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CLEAN AND BRING IMPACT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR WHERE EVER THEY WANT TO CLEAN UP A CITY-OWNED ROAD BUT AT THE SAME TIME TO NOT SEE THAT ACTIVITY, IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO FULFILL THEIR COMMITMENT , THEN THEY WOULD BE GIVING UP TO SOMEONE ELSE AND WE ARE HOPING THAT CAN HOPEFULLY DRIVE SOME OF OUR PARTICIPANTS TO PARTICIPATE [00:45:05] MORE ANNOYING THE PROVISION EXISTS. CURRENTLY, IT DOES NOT. FYI, YOU SIGN DOES COST ABOUT $200. IF ARE GOING TO MAKE THE INVESTMENT, WE ARE HOPING TO SEE THE COMMITMENT. LASTLY, PROGRAM PARTICIPATION BUT WE HAVE 19 GROUPS IN THE PROGRAM. AND WE HAVE 19 ADOPTED ROADS. TO THE RIGHT ARE A LIST OF ALL ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE PART OF THE PROGRAM AND THEN YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF IMAGES THERE OF SOME OF OUR PARTICIPANTS. IN THIS SLIDE, THIS IS A QUICK SNAPSHOT OF ALL THE ROADS THAT ARE IN THIS PROGRAM AS WELL. 19 OF THEM. AND THEN MORE SPECIFICALLY, WE DO HAVE A NEW ADOPTIVE WROTE INTERACTIVE MAP. THIS MAP GIVES YOU VISUAL OF ALL OF THE ADOPTED ROADS AS A SICK CURRENTLY BUT THIS CAN BE FOUND ON OUR ADOPT A ROAD WEBPAGE. CLICK THE LINK DOWN THERE ON THE SCREEN YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE THE SLIDE ON YOUR MONITOR BUT IT WILL TAKE YOU TO THAT MAP . AND YOU CAN CLICK ON ANY OF THE PURPLE LINES AND IT WILL PROVIDE YOU INFORMATION ABOUT THE GROUP THAT ADOPTED IT, WHEN THEY ADOPTED IT , THE DISTANCE OR THE LENGTH OF THAT STREET AND SO FORTH. LASTLY, WHAT IS UNDERWAY. I THINK ANOTHER CRITICAL ELEMENT IS ALSO PROVIDING INCENTIVES AND RECOGNITION TO OUR VOLUNTEERS. IF THEY'RE COMING OUT AND DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AND PARTICIPATING IN BRINGING THE IMPACT TO OUR COMMUNITY , I THINK IS IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO KNOW THEY ARE APPRECIATED. THIS IS FORM OR WAY IN WHICH WE CAN DO THAT. THE FIRST IDEA IS THE COMMUNITY CLEANUP CHAMPIONS RECOGNITION , WHICH WE ARE HOPING TO DO NEXT YEAR IN SPRING AT THE ANNUAL COMMUNITY DAY EVENT. THAT EVENT IS HOSTED THROUGH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT . WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS THERE WILL BE A SEGMENT DURING THAT DAY WHERE WE WILL RECOGNIZE THOSE WHO HAVE MET A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT TO BE CONSIDERED FOR RECOGNITION. THEY WILL PROBABLY GET A CERTIFICATE AND SOME SWAG BAGS. THEY WILL TAKE PHOTOS AND GET RECOGNIZED ON CITY COMMUNICATION PLATFORMS FOR THE MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS . THE SECOND IS THAT ANNUAL ADOPTER ROAD CHAMPIONS RECOGNITION LUNCHEON , WHICH WE ARE HOPING TO HOST IN THE WINTER. THIS IS SPECIFIC -- SPECIFICALLY FOR BUT ADOPTER ROAD PARTICIPANTS. WE WANT TO DRIVE ACTIVITY AND BRING FOLKS OUT TO THEIR COMMUNITIES SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY ENGAGE IN THE PROGRAM. KNOWING THAT THERE IS AT LEAST A RECOGNITION OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE WANT TO WELL NEEDED ATTENTION TO GROUPS THAT ARE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND IN THE PROGRAM IN KEEPING OUR CITY CLEAN. LASTLY, WE ALSO WANT TO DO MONTHLY HIGHLIGHTS OF OUR ACTIVE PARTICIPANTS . AGAIN, PUSHING OUT THE MESSAGE TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE ABOUT THOSE WHO ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE. HOPEFULLY ENCOURAGING OTHERS TO PARTICIPATE . IN ADDITION WE WANT TO DO MAJOR RAFFLE FOR SELF-REPORTED CLEANUP. THIS DOES NOT HAVE TO BE IN ADOPTER ROAD PARTICIPANTS. THIS CAN BE ANYONE, WHETHER PARTICIPATING IN ANY PROGRAMS ARE NOT BETTER GOING OUT AND DOING THE WORK , SO LONG AS THEY SELF-REPORT THE CLEANUPS. THEY CAN ENTER IN FOR A CHANCE TO WIN A PRIZE OR SOMETHING THAT IS FUN AND INTERESTING. LASTLY, WE'LL MAKE SURE TO RECOGNIZE EVERYONE TO OUR BERRIES CAN CITY COMMUNICATION OUTLETS. JUST BEFORE I FINISH OFF , THESE UPDATES WILL BE PUSHED OUT TO OUR PARTICIPANTS FAIRLY SOON. WE DO HAVE A COURTLY CLEANUP COMING UP, SEPTEMBER 28TH. WE WANT TO PUSH THIS INFORMATION OUT ALL AT ONCE SO ALL OF OUR PARTICIPANTS ARE AWARE BUT WE WANT TO USE IT AS PROMOTIONAL LANGUAGE SO WE CAN GET MORE FOLKS ON BOARD FOR THE PROGRAM AND ALSO TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CLEANUP EFFORTS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE. I BELIEVE THAT WITH THESE IMPROVEMENTS, IT WILL FALL UNDER THE PUBLIC AND EDUCATION CAMPAIGN WHICH WILL BE DISCUSSED LATER ON THE AGENDA. I BELIEVE THAT THIS CAN CERTAINLY TAKE OUR EFFORTS TO ANOTHER LEVEL. IF IN FACT WE IMPLEMENT THESE UPGRADES. WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO ASK. >> MARCIA, DO YOU PLAN TO INCLUDE THE ADOPT A PARK PEEP HOLE IN THE ADOPTER ROAD PROGRAM TOO? THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE ADOPTED PARKS. >> THAT IS A SEPARATE PROGRAM. WE HAVE NOT INCLUDED THEM WITH THE ADOPTER ROAD PROGRAM. >> THE RECOGNITION IN SPRING , IS THAT THE GREAT AMERICAN CLEANUP CURE IS THAT WHAT YOU [00:50:01] ARE THINKING? >> THAT WILL BE SEPARATE. WE HELD EARLIER THIS YEAR IN MARCH OR MAY. KNEW ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> THANK YOU. YOU ALREADY KNOW I AM 100% BEHIND YOU WITH THIS PROGRAM. I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT. I THINK THAT WILL GET MORE PEOPLE OUT. WITH THE HIGHLIGHTS , WITH THE RAFFLES, MAYBE WE CAN PARTNER WITH SOME OF THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES THAT WHEN THEY DO WIN A RAFFLE, IT IS PARTICIPATION AN ADVERTISEMENT FOR A DOWNTOWN BUSINESS TO SAY, THIS IS A RAFFLE , GO GET YOU A CUPCAKE OR COOKIE OR WHATEVER. JUST THE IDEA SO WE TRY TO GET THIS WHOLE ONE FORT PIERCE , KEEP ON KEEP GOING. I LOVE THE PROGRAM. I DID AN EMAIL OVER THE WEEKEND BECAUSE SHE GAVE ME FOUR ROADS. I GOT THE FOUR ROADS. I ASKED FOR FOUR MORE ROADS TO GET MORE PEOPLE BECAUSE I AM KNOCKING ON DOORS. IT IS ONE THING TO SAY AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THE DIRTINESS OF OUR CITY. IT IS NOTHING TO SIT AND WATCH THE DRIVE-BY. AND THEN DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. SO THE PEOPLE HEAR MY VOICE. IF YOU SEE ME COMING, I'M PROBABLY ASKING YOU OKAY YOU AND YOUR ORGANIZATION TO ADOPT ONE OF THESE AND I WANT TO SEE RIGHT THERE. ONCE A MONTH. LET US BREAK IT DOWN. ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP UNDER ME, GO AHEAD AND PUT ON YOUR CALENDAR ONE OF THEM SATURDAYS IN THE MORNING. LET US GET UP AND GO DO IT. IF THERE ANY ORGANIZATIONS OUT HERE THAT WANT TO GET SOME GOOD EXERCISE. RIGHT NOW IN THE SUMMERTIME, IT IS HOT BUT YOU GET OUT THERE AND DO AND BE CAREFUL. IT BENEFITS THE ENTIRE CITY. WE TAKE AWAY THAT NEGATIVITY THAT OUR CITY IS DIRTY OR TRASHY. IT IS NOT. YOU GET OUT AND DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. I AM 100% BEHIND THIS PROGRAM AND ANYTHING I CAN DO TO PUSH IT FOR, LET ME KNOW . >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE ALL THE EFFORT. >> THANK YOU. >> I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM. I LOVE THE CHANGES AND ADAPTATIONS YOU MADE TO PUT A TWEAK TO IT. ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT. I KNOW WHERE WE ARE GOING, 12 MONTHS. WE ARE ALSO GOING TO RECOGNIZE THOSE THAT RUN THAT ENDURANCE OF 12 MONTHS OUT THERE. WHAT POINT DO WE BEGIN TO ASK ORGANIZATIONS , WARN THEM OR PUT THEM ON PROBATION OR TAKE THEIR SIGN? THERE WILL BE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WILL NOT HIT 100%. WE COMMIT SET DOWN TO WHAT STANDARD BEFORE WE MOVE THEM FROM BEST? IS IT 60 OR 50 ? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR? IF WE HAVE NOT THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, YOU MAY NEED TO GIVE SOME THOUGHT TO THAT. LAST TIME I WAS IN SCHOOL, 60% WAS A D. I THINK IT MAY BE A F NOW. >> IT MIGHT HELP WITH COMPLIANCE. I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM STANDARD OF PERFORMANCE. >> THAT WAS THE PIECE TO THIS WE DID NOT HAVE AT FIRST WAS JUST A BIT OF TEETH TO LET FOLKS KNOW WE HAVE AN EXPECTATION. WHAT WE ARE SEEING -- WE DO NOT WANT TO DISCOURAGE ANYONE EITHER. AT THE SAME TIME, MOVING UP FROM 4 TO 12 IS NOT MUCH TO ASK FOR IT ONCE A MONTH ABOUT AN HOUR OR TWO TO CLEAN UP A ROAD RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE TO CLEAN UP THE 12. WE MAY CHANGE THAT OVER TIME JUST TO SEE HOW THINGS ACTUALLY WORK OUT. WE WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR BECAUSE I THINK THAT IF WE REDUCE IT AND WE SAY, ACTUALLY, MAYBE JUST THE 60 OR 70% OF WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO, WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO TEST THE MINDS. I CAN GET AWAY WHICH IS 70 OR, MAYBE JUST FIVE AND YOU SEE WOMEN THAT GOES. >> 100% COMPLIANCE IS WHERE I'M GOING. GOT IT. I JUST KNOW THINGS WILL HAPPEN. AT SOME POINT, YOU HAVE TO SET THE STANDARD OF THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE THAT YOU HAVE BELOW PERFORMANCE WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR WITH EXPECTATION. THIS IS DIRECTLY IMPACTING OUR COMMUNITY. I GAVE A FEW COMMISSIONER GAINS. WE WANT 100%. IF EVERYONE PITCHES IN AND DOES IT ONCE A MONTH WITH THESE ORGANIZATIONS, WE [00:55:06] WILL SEE THAT IMPACT IN OUR COMMUNITY. THE OTHER THING IS THAT THE COMMUNITY SEES THIS. THE COMMUNITY WILL REACT DIFFERENTLY BEFORE THEY THINK OF OUT THROWING THEIR TRASH OUT THE WINDOW AS THEY GO DOWN THE STREET IN A COMMUNITY SAY THEY LOVE. IT IS THE CRAZIEST THING I'VE SEEN MY ENTIRE LIFE YOU LOVE YOUR CITY BUT YOU GO AND THROW STUFF OUT THE WINDOW AS YOU GO DOWN THE STREET. I DO NOT GET IT. I AM WITH YOU 100%. YOU HAVE ANSWERED MY QUESTION. YOU ARE GOING TO GET THIS OUT TO THE GROUPS. IF I HEAR YOU RIGHT, THERE ARE MORE CITY STREETS TO ADOPT. THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, WE HAVE NIGHT TEEN . I AM ALL ABOUT DATA AND COMPARISON. HOW MANY CITY STREETS TO BEHALF? WHAT PERCENT DO WE HAVE ADOPTED? WE NEED TO SET A STANDARD THAT WE NEED TO GET 100% OF CITY STREETS ADOPTED. RIGHT NOW, I THINK 19. I'M VENTURING TO SAY WE PROBABLY HAVE 15%, IF THAT. IT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS. I WOULD BE INTERESTED FROM A NUMBER STANDPOINT OF WHAT ELSE IS LEFT UP THERE AND WHAT WE HAVE TO ADOPT. >> MADAM CHAIR, TO THAT POINT THAT YOU MADE , THERE ARE ALSO STREETS, IN PARTICULAR, THAT AND MORE IN NEED OF BEING ADOPTED. WE WOULD LIKE TO PORTRAY STREETS. SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH COMMISSIONER GAINES. WHEN WE CONTACTED STAFF, THEY TOLD US WHAT THEY SEE EVERY DAY TO BE THE MOST PROBLEMATIC STREETS. WE WILL CREATE A LIST AND PUT THAT ON THE WEBSITE FOR FOLKS TO CHOOSE FROM AS WELL. THE LAST THING WE WANT IS FOR SOMEONE TO PICK A STREET BECAUSE IT IS CONVENIENT. IN FACT, IT IS NOT A PROBLEMATIC STREET. THE SOMETHING WE WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE WEBSITE . >> YES, SIR? THERE IS A LOT OF STREETS AND OPTIONS WITH A HALF-MILE AT A TIME. I'M SURE WE HAVE HUNDREDS, IF NOT THOUSANDS OF MILES TO ACCOUNT FOR WHEN IT COMES TO THAT. JACK, HOW DO WE HANDLE WHEN WE HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH THE FT OT AND THE MAINTAINED ROAD BUT WE HAVE A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? I'M TURNING TO THE CITY ENGINEER BECAUSE HE IS UP HERE BUT I KNOW HE DEALS WITH THOSE AGREEMENTS ON A REGULAR BASIS. HOW DO WE HANDLE THAT? LIKE IN A 1A? >> WE DO HAVE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE. SPECIFICALLY FOR CLEANUP . FOR EXAMPLE WE DO STREET SWEEP U.S. 1 A1A BUT THERE IS NOT A SPECIFIC MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE . MORE OR LESS FOR THE LANDSCAPING, WHICH COMES WITH LETTER CONTROL , IN A SENSE. IN A ROUNDABOUT WAY, WE DO HAVE AN AGREEMENT ON OKEECHOBEE ROAD IN DIFFERENT STATE ROADS FOR THAT. I THINK THIS WOULD FALL IN UNDER THAT. WE COULD ADOPT OUT A STATE HIGHWAY . >> I THINK IS ON THE MAP. ORANGE AVENUE, A PORTION OF ORANGE AVENUE IS ALREADY ADOPTED. IF THIS DATE IS OKAY ADDING ASSIGNMENT THAT THIS IS ADOPTED BY? THIS IS THE CRUX OF MY QUESTION. IF WE ADOPTED , IS IT GOING TO GET THE RECOGNITION, LIKE OUR PROGRAM STATES? >> IN THAT CASE, WE DO HAVE TO GO TO FTOT FOR PERMISSION TO INSTALL THE SIGN WE MAY HAVE TO LOOK FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY TO PUT THE SIGN ON. >> WE HAVE BEEN CHALLENGED BY THE AREAS THAT YOU MENTIONED. MAYBE OKEECHOBEE ROAD OR FIVE, U.S. 1 . OLDER HIGH VISIBILITY. A LOT OF TRAFFIC AND A LOT OF FOLKS ARE EXIT OUT THE WINDOW FOR WHATEVER REASON. IT BAFFLES ME TOO. JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT WITH AN IDEA OF YOUR CONVERSATION PIECES AND HOW WE CAN COORDINATE WITH THESE ORGANIZATIONS. ALSO, I NOTICE ON THE LIST IT IS MOSTLY NONPROFIT, PROBABLY. YOU ARE OKAY WITH BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONS, NONPROFIT, ALL OF THE ABOVE? >> EXACTLY. ANYONE WHO WANTS TO PARTICIPATE. >> REAL QUICK . A FOLLOW-UP TO COMMISSIONER JOHNSON AGAIN. THE ONE THING I NOTICED ABOUT THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE I GO OUT WITH SOME OF THE GROUPS THAT THE MORE YOU DO IT , SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THE AREA THAT YOU ARE DOING, THEY KNOW YOU ARE COMING. THEY TRIED TO GET OUT TO CLEAN UP THEIR PORTION SO THERE YOU HAVE ALL THIS TRASH AND BURN MY [01:00:09] RESIDENCE OR MY PROPERTY. THE MORE THEY SEE, MORE , THEY ARE COMING SOMETIME THIS MONTH. LET ME START PICKING UP BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT THEM STANDING IN FRONT OF MY RESIDENCE. IT IS A RIPPLE EFFECT WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. I LOVE IT. I WILL GET YOU FOUR MORE. >> I WILL CHIME IN THEIR THE CHAIR OF THE SOUTH BEACH VOLUNTEERS TO CLEAN OUT. HER WHOLE PHILOSOPHY, THE MORE PEOPLE SEE PEOPLE CLEANING UP OF THE BEACH, THE MORE PEOPLE CLEANUP AT THE BEACH. THE MORE THEY WANT TO KEEP IT CLEAN. GOOD JOB. LET US MOVE ON. THE [9. Consent Agenda] NEXT ITEM IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> IF THERE IS NO ONE WHO WANTS TO PULL ANYTHING, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MOVED TO APPROVE . >> SECOND. >> CALLED THE ROLE, PLEASE. >> [a. Resolution 24-R44 approving the Fort Pierce Utilities Authority FY2025 Annual Budget and FY2024 Amended Budget. ] 44. THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVING THE FY 2025 BUDGET FOR THE FOUR PIECE UTILITY AUTHORITY BEGINNING -- APPROVING THE FY 2024 AMENDED BUDGET WAIVING THE 30 DAY PERIOD FOR DISAPPROVAL AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE >> MR. ANDERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY LEAD INTO THIS? >> NO, MA'AM. >> WELCOME. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAME MAYOR. MISSES ANDREWS, MRS. COX AND MRS. HEDGES. I'M HERE WITH OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER TO PRESENT AND REQUEST APPROVAL OF THE UPCOMING FY '25 BUDGET AND AMENDING THE FY '24 BUDGET. AS REQUIRED BY CHARTER STAFF MUST PRESENT A BUDGET AT LEAST 45 DAYS PRIOR TO BEGINNING OF THE NEW FISCAL YEAR. WE HAVE DEVELOPED THIS BUDGET WITH STRATEGIC GOALS IN MIND. AND BARBARA WILL HIGHLIGHT THOSE GOALS IN HER PRESENTATION. WE HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET WHILE BUILDING A NEW WASTEWATER PLANT , EXPANDING OUR ELECTRIC GRID FOR NEW GROWTH. WE HAVE 21 WASTEWATER EXPANSION PROJECTS DEPLOYMENT OF ELECTRIC AMI AND MANY MORE IMPORTANT PROJECTS THAT WILL HELP CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE CITY . I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE COMMISSION FOR YOUR ENGAGEMENT WITH THE UTILITY AUTHORITY , SPECIFICALLY WITH ME. I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT. AS ALWAYS I'M LOOKING FOR A GREAT YEAR FOR OUR COMMUNITY. NOW I WILL TURN OVER TO MS. MIKA. >> GOOD MORNING , MAYOR HUDSON AND COMMISSIONERS. I AM PLEASED TO BE HERE TO PRESENT OUR ANNUAL BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR '25 AND THE AMENDED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024. AS MR. CISNEROS MENTIONED, THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT OF THIS BUDGET FOLLOW CLOSELY WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE HAVE UPDATED THE WORKSHOP IN AUGUST OF 2023. THE PLAN FOCUSED ON FIVE AREAS OF DEVELOPMENT . WE ARE FOCUSING ON OUR COMMUNITY RELATIONS TO ENGAGE OUR CUSTOMERS AND STAFF , BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS AND TRUST THROUGH COMMUNICATION , STRENGTHENING OUR FOOTHOLD IN THE COMMUNITY AND OUR ABILITY TO SERVE AND SUCCEED. WE ARE TARGETING GROWTH AND RATES , EMPHASIS -- THIS EMPHASIZES OUR NEED TO EXPAND OUR SERVICES, GROW OUR UTILITY, SEIZING GROWTH OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH CAPITAL DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING WHILE MAINTAINING RATES. THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR WORKFORCE IS THE FUTURE OF FPO A. BY ATTRACTING , TRAINING AND RETAINING LEADERS ON STAFF AND IN THE COMMUNITY . WE PREPARE FOR THE SUCCESS OF THE ORGANIZATION. ALSO, ADVANCING OUR TECHNOLOGY WITH THE AUTOMATION AND STREAMLINING OF OUR PROCESSES WILL BRING EFFICIENCIES, SAVE TIME AND MONEY IN OUR MISSION TO PROVIDE RELIABLE AND ECONOMICAL SERVICE TO OUR CUSTOMERS. FINALLY, MOST IMPORTANTLY, PROVIDING THE DIRECTION FOR OUR BOARD THROUGH UTILITY GOVERNANCE WITH CONTINUED EDUCATION TO GUARANTEE THE SOUND LEADERSHIP WORK OF THE DECISION-MAKERS FOR THE AUTHORITY. THIS TOTAL BUDGET TURNING OVER THE YEARS INCLUDES ALL OF THE AMOUNTS , INCLUDING ALL OF OUR FUNDING [01:05:02] SOURCES. IN RED, YOU CAN SEE THE PURCHASES, RESELL AND ITEMS THAT ARE NOT IN CONTROL BY FPOA . TYPICALLY, IN THE YEARS 2020 THROUGH 2023, IT RAN ABOUT 45 TO 50% OF OUR BUDGET . IN 2024, WE ARE ABOUT 36% ON THE AMENDED BUDGET . AND IN FISCAL YEAR '25 WE'RE DOWN TO ABOUT 36.5% , JUST UNDER 37%. THOSE COSTS, AS RESULT OF THE EFFORTS THAT HAVE MPA HAS PUT IN HAS SAVED US MONEY IN OUR BUDGETING PROCESS. THIS PIE CHART IS THE REVENUES BY SYSTEM FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR. THE ELECTRIC IS ABOUT 52% OF OUR REVENUES AT $79 MILLION. WATER IS ABOUT 21% AND WASTEWATER MAKES ABOUT 18.5%, ALMOST 19% OF OUR BUDGET. THIS IS TOTAL REVENUE, NOT JUST RATES. THIS IS THE COMPARABLE EXPENSES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 AGAIN, THE PURCHASES FOR RESALE. IT IS ABOUT 37% OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET . OUR TOTAL BUDGET BEING $138 MILLION . THAT OTHER BLUE PIECE IS QUITE A LARGE PIECE. THAT IS 53% OF OUR BUDGET. AND THE NEXT CHART THAT I HAVE WILL BREAK THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. THIS CHART HERE IS THE BLUE PIECE BROKEN OUT BUT THIS IS OUR OTHER EXPENSE CATEGORIES AND YOU CAN SEE THE THREE LARGEST ITEMS MAKE UP ABOUT 63% OF THAT, ABOUT $46 MILLION GOES BETWEEN PERSONNEL SERVICES , EMPLOYEE BENEFITS AND CONTRACTUAL SERVICES. THOSE ARE EXPENSES ARE ALWAYS ON THE CLIMB WITH INFLATION AND OTHER THINGS GOING ON. JUST TO POINT OUT THOSE ARE OUR BIGGEST PROPORTIONS OF EXPENSE. THIS CHART SHOWS THE DISTRIBUTION TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FROM 2012 FORWARD. THE CALCULATIONS ARE FOUND IN THE ANNUAL BUDGET BOOK . YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. THE PAYMENT THAT WE REMITTED TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FOR THIS YEAR WAS $7.5 MILLION. AND IF ALL OF THE FORECAST IS CORRECT, OUR INCREASE FOR PAYMENT NEXT YEAR WOULD BE $8 MILLION. THIS CHART IS OUR FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN BY SYSTEM. YOU CAN SEE 50% OF THAT PLAN CAPITAL FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS IS FOR WASTEWATER. THAT INCLUDES EXPANSION PROJECTS FOR WASTEWATER AND THE COMPLETION OF THE RECLAMATION FACILITY. THE SERIES 22 BONDS WILL FUND 22% OF THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN. THE ELECTRIC SYSTEM ALSO HAS A LARGE PORTION THAT INCLUDES SUBSTATION HARDENING, EXPANSION AND THAT ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT 20% OF THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN. MAJOR PROJECTS IN THAT FIVE-YEAR PLAN ARE THE RECLAMATION FACILITY AND THE CONVEYANCE SYSTEM THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT, WHICH WILL ROUND OUT AND COMPLETE THE FLOWS TO THE PLANS AND THAT WILL ALLOW FOR THE DECOMMISSIONING OF THE ISLAND WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY WITH THE EVENTUAL DECOMMISSIONING . THE ELECTRIC SYSTEM HAS PLANNED THE SUBSTATION TRANSFORMER REPLACEMENT AND SUB TATIAN -- SUBSTATION EXPANSION. ALL SYSTEMS HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE PLANNED FOR THE SERIES 22 BONDS AND SOME THROUGH RATES AS WELL. THIS IS A SIMILAR CHART BUT IS JUST LOOKING AT THE FISCAL YEAR '25. YOU CAN SEE THE LION SHARE OF WHAT WE ARE DEDICATING OUR FUNDS TO, THE MAINLAND WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY . ABOUT 60 MILLION OF THAT 68 THAT IS SLATED FOR THE GREEN PIECE OF THE PIE THERE IS DEDICATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT FACILITY AND THE COMMAND SYSTEM AND ACCOUNTS FOR 46% AND WILL BE FUNDED THROUGH THE SERIES '22 BONDS. THE [01:10:04] EXPANSION OF THE SUBSTATION ON THE ELECTRIC SIDE IN THE RED AND THE DISTRIBUTION EXPANSION TOP THE LIST FOR THE ELECTRIC SYSTEM PROJECTS. NATURAL GAS IN THE YELLOW WITH THE EXPANSION TO THE NORTH HAS ALREADY INCREASED ITS CUSTOMER BASE FOR THE CURRENT YEAR. WITH THE NEW GATE STATION AND COMMERCIAL EXPANSION ON THE HORIZON FROM THEM AS WELL. EXPANSION IS KEY FOR ALL OF OUR SYSTEM FOR BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL BUSINESS LINES. WITH THAT, WE ARE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THE FORT PIERCE ANNUAL BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025, INCLUDING THE 2025 CAPITAL BUDGET, THE FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AND THE AMENDED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS , I WILL BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THEM. >> QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER BRODERICK . >> A COUPLE MONTHS BACK WE HAVE THE JOINT MEETING WITH THE FPUA AND CITY COMMISSION WITH DISCUSSION AMONGST THE PARTIES RELATIVE TO THE REIMBURSEMENT ISSUED TO THE CITY. I KNOW WE HAVE BEEN ON THIS FOR EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. SARAH INDICATED TO ME THIS IS JUST ABOUT FINALIZED. ONCE IT IS FINALIZED, AT LEAST INFORM FROM A LEGALESE PERSPECTIVE , I'M ASSUMING YOU BRING INTO THE CITY TO RATIFY THIS? >> META MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, WE WILL BRING YOU A DOCUMENT TO REVIEW AND APPROVE. I ACTUALLY EMAILED MR. CISNEROS THIS MORNING TO SEE WHO WOULD TAKE OVER SINCE THEIR COUNSEL DEPARTED SO WE CAN GET THE FINALIZE ON THE AGENDA. >> THERE ARE SOME CHANGES IN THE BODY OF THIS. COMMISSION, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND SPECIFICALLY WHAT IS IN THERE AND HOW IT WORKS AND HOW WE WILL IMPLEMENT IT MOVING FORWARD. AND SUBSEQUENT AND WE HAVE DISCUSSED IT SEVERAL TIMES SUBSEQUENT TO HOW WE MEMORIALIZE THIS. I BELIEVE THAT IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT MOVING FORWARD. IT IS NOT NECESSARY BURDENED BY THE SAME THINGS YEAR-LONG PROCESS OF SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT WAS RELATIVELY SIMPLISTIC , WAS APPARENTLY NOT. WE ARE JUST ABOUT THERE . SARAH CAN GIVE US A FULL REPORT ONCE WE'RE DONE. I WANT TO THANK THE FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE TRY TO GET THIS DONE. WE MET QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? YES? >> THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT. I WILL BE OF SITTING TO THE VOTE DOING A CONFLICT OF INTEREST BASED ON THE CAPITAL PROJECTS AT THE WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY. I JUST WANTED TO ANNOUNCE THAT AND EXACTLY THE CONFLICT. WE FILE THE APPROPRIATE FORM BUT GOOD JOB FPUA WITH WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING. APPRECIATE IT. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. AT THE FMPA CONFERENCE, JACOB WILLIAMS ANNOUNCE THAT WE HAVE THE LOWEST RATE IN 20 YEARS COMPARED TO IS THAT RIGHT? WILL YOU SAVE FOR THE RECORDS EVERYONE CAN HEAR IT >> THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS MADE AT THE ANNUAL CONFERENCE SHOWED THAT THREE QUARTERS OF UTILITIES IN THE STATE ARE LOWER THAN THE INVESTMENT UTILITIES. FPUA IS LOWER THAN THE FPM L FOR THE SAME THOUSAND KILOWATT HOUR CHARGE. WE ALSO HAVE AN ADJUSTMENT THAT WENT INTO EFFECT IN JULY. WE HAD A NEGATIVE THREE DOLLAR POWER COST ADJUSTMENT THAT NUMBER WILL LOOK JUST A LITTLE BETTER IN THE MONTH OF AUGUST WHEN WE DO THE COMPARISON FOR JULY . YOU HAVE A MANAGER HANG ON CITY HALL? >> RIGHT. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME HE SAID 20 YEARS OR MORE? >> IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN CLOSE BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT MANY UTILITIES HAVE BEEN TO THE LEFT OF THAT BENCHMARK, WHICH IS ALWAYS COMPARING OURSELVES TO THE UTILITIES. >> THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO SAY AND SAY OFTEN SO THAT PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THAT. EVEN THOUGH WE GET A BILL THAT HAS A LOT OF OTHER SERVICES, THE ELECT RATES ARE LOW AND ALSO I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT MAY NOT MEAN ANYTHING TO PEOPLE BUT THAT IS FOR THE WESTERN EXPANSION, PRIMARILY COMICAL RIGHT? AND FOR THE TESLA STATION AND ARE WE WITH EDC FOR THE WHOLE WESTERN CORRIDOR PROJECT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTOOD THAT. >> I CAN EXPAND ON THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT . THERE IS DEVELOPING HAPPENING OUT WEST OF TOWN. THE EXPANSION IS THE FIRST TIME EXPENDED ANY SUBSTATION IN THE LAST 30 YEARS. THIS IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT. WE NEED [01:15:04] TO BE ABLE TO TRACK THAT BUSINESS WITH FORT PIERCE. NOT ONLY FOR THE TAX BASE BUT THE UTILITY CONSUMPTION. WE NEED TO PROVIDE THE JOBS, THE TAX BASES THAT ARE IMPORTANT BUT PART OF THAT IS UTILITY SERVICES TO THE AREA. THAT IS PART OF OUR PLAN TO EXPAND THE TOTTEN SUBSTATION. >> I'LL SEND THE LAKEWOOD PARK GAS EXPANSION , WHICH IS BRING NEW CUSTOMERS TO THE FPUA AND INTRODUCING THAT WHOLE AREA TO FORT PIERCE UTILITY AUTHORITY. I THINK THAT IS A GOOD THING AND THAT IS GOING WELL. >> IT IS GOING WELL. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HIT ON FPUA NET. THEY HAVE BEEN AGGRESSIVE BUT THERE EXPANSION PROGRAM FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR WILL BE WHAT I CONSIDER A VERY BIG IMPORTANT YEAR FOR OUR FIBER. WE ARE GETTING PAST THE DESIGN PHASE IN THE IMPROVEMENT PHASE. WE WILL CONNECT QUITE A FEW CUSTOMERS. THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF INDIAN HILLS JUST TO THE EAST -- EAST OF U.S. 1 . >> WE DID THAT IN ABOUT A WEEK. JASON BUTLER AND HIS TEAM HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB. WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO STREAMLINE THAT PROCESS. THIS UPCOMING YEAR WE WILL HAVE QUITE A FEW FIBER PROJECTS THAT WILL HELP US EXPAND OUR FIBER SYSTEM BUT WE ARE IN THE LINCOLN PARK AREA RIGHT NOW AND IN THE AIRPORT INDUSTRIAL PARK WE'RE IN THE INDIAN HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD. WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN TO GET THAT SERVICE ACTIVE. >> THE THINGS HAPPEN . YES? >> THE TOTTEN EXPANSION , MICAH ESTIMATE SOMEWHAT IN THE VICINITY BUT JEAN -- BETWEEN KING VALLEY AND A QUARTER WITH THE SPACE COMING ON MY THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR DEVELOPMENT COMING IN FOR APPROVAL SOON. DOES THE STATION HAVE CAPACITY TO HANDLE ALL OF THAT? >> WE'RE LOOKING AT THE USING JENKINS ROAD AREA THAT WE SERVE AS WELL. THAT IS GROWING . WE ARE MAKING SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY TO INCLUDE THE KINGS HIGHWAY , WHITE ROAD , CROSSROAD PARKWAY -- INDUSTRIAL PARKWAY. WE ARE COUNTING FOR ALL THAT GROWTH >> EXCELLENT. AND YOU HAVE METER SPINNING ON ALL THOSE BUILDINGS. >> THAT IS THE GOAL >> COMMISSIONER GAINES. >> META MAYOR, THANK YOU. DIRECTOR, THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE ON THE INTERNET. WITH THE PUBLIC DOES NOT KNOW IS THAT THE DIRECTOR MEETS WITH US MONTHLY . WE TALK ABOUT THIS. 90% OF OUR MEETINGS IS TALKING ABOUT GETTING GOOD NEWS TO THE PUBLIC. I AM SITTING HERE AND META MAYOR SAYS GOOD NEWS, WE ARE FINALLY ON THIS SIDE OF THE LINE AND THEN I HAVE MY DIRECTOR. YES, WE ARE REAL GOOD. >> >> I UNDERSTAND YOU DO NOT LIKE TO DO THAT. THE PUBLIC IS LISTENING. IT IS A CLAP TO YOUR LEADERSHIP AND ORGANIZATION TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING. IT IS OKAY TO TO YOUR HEART A LITTLE BIT EVERY NOW AND THEN. THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO. I KNOW THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO SINCE YOU TOOK OVER. WHAT IS 90% OF OUR MEETINGS? GETTING THE GOOD NEWS AND GETTING TO THE PUBLIC SO THEY START UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR VISION AND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO. WE HAVE A FIRST STEP. I'M PRETTY SURE SOME OF THE PUBLIC MISSES IT. COME ON, DIRECTOR, GOOD JOB. LET US KEEP IT GOING. THAT IS ALL I AM TRYING TO SAY. IF META MAYOR HAD NOT SAID ANYTHING, YOU WOULD SIT THERE AND SAY IT. LET THE PUBLIC KNOW . THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW I KNOW IT IS FUNNY. I KNOW IT IS FUNNY BUT THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW ALL THE HARD WORK WE ARE DOING TRYING TO SAVE THE MONEY. IF IT IS A LITTLE MONEY, IT IS MORE THAN WE DID TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO. TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT YOU ALL . EVERYWHERE WE COME UP WITH THAT ADJUSTMENT AND EVERYONE WAS MAD. THE CHAMBERS WERE FULL BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE MAD. THE BILLS WERE GOING THE OTHER WAY. LET THE PUBLIC KNOW, WE HEAR YOU. THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING AND THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING. THAT IS ALL I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU. GOOD JOB. >> APPRECIATE THAT. IT IS A TITLE THAT IS HARD TO KEEP. THAT IS THE CAUTION. >> THIS MONTH. >> YOU KNOW, YOU TALKED ABOUT IT AND I GET IT. THIS MONTH, LET US TALK ABOUT IT. WE [01:20:09] UNDERSTAND AND THEY UNDERSTAND THE CONTROL. NO ONE SITTING HERE CAN CONTROL HOW HOT THE SUN GETS AND HOW MANY PEOPLE TURN ON THEIR AIR CONDITIONING . NO MATTER WHAT THE PRICE OF NATURAL GAS IS. WE UNDERSTAND THAT. IF THEY DON'T, LISTEN TO MY VOICE. FPUA DOES NOT CONTROL NATURAL GAS, THE HEAT OF THE SUN AND ALL OF THAT . WE ARE WORKING WITH EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MINIMIZE YOUR BILLS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. IF IT HAPPENED IN THE MONTH OF AUGUST, LET US TALK ABOUT IT. IT SHOWS THE PUBLIC THAT WE ARE DOING SOMETHING AND WE ARE HEARING WHAT THEY ARE SAYING. I CANNOT WAIT UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU YOUR PROPS AND THE PROPS ARE NEEDED. I KNOW HOW HARD YOU AND YOUR TEAM ARE WORKING TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO LOWER THEIR BILLS BEFORE I GOT A PEER, THAT IS ALL I EVER HEARD , THE BILLS, THE BILLS, THE BILLS. IF THERE IS JUST ONE SET OF GOOD NEWS, I WANT TO HEAR THE GOOD NEWS. IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE ME, SOMEONE OPENED THEIR BILL THIS MONTH AND SAID, LORD, THANK YOU. I AM BEING HONEST WITH YOU. SOMEBODY DID IT. I DON'T GIVE IT WAS TWO DOLLARS OR THREE DOLLARS, SOMEONE SAID, THANK YOU AND MOVED ON. I CAN GUARANTEE IN THEIR HOUSE THEY ARE SAYING THANK YOU. LET US -- WE HAVE A GOOD MONTH , LET'S TOUT IT. YOU KNOW AND I KNOW THAT IF A BAD MONTH COME, THE CHAMBERS WILL BE FULL AND WE ARE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT IT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. I'D THINK THE THING I'D WANT TO HEAR, WHAT CAUSES THIS GOOD NEWS IS NOT ONLY IF THE ONE IS THE RATE I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PROPONENT FOR, HOW DO WE MAKE THESE HOMES MORE EFFICIENT? WE MAKE AN INVESTMENT INTO THE HOMES. LAST YEAR WE HAD MONEY LEFT OVER . CAN YOU GIVE ME A QUICK UPDATE ON HOW WE ARE DOING THESE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOMEOWNERS AND EVEN LANDLORDS TO MAKE THESE HOMES MORE EFFICIENT . THE MORE EFFICIENT THEY ARE, THE LESS POWER CONSUMPTION THEY USE. MEANING THAT IF THE AIR CONDITIONING UNIT IS AN EFFICIENT UNIT AND IT IS NOT A WALL BASE UNIT , THEY ARE GOING TO BURN LESS ENERGY TO COOL THE HOUSE. IT IS NO SECRET WE ARE GETTING HOTTER AND HOTTER MONTHS. IT COMES DOWN TO THE EFFICIENCY OF THESE HOMES. WE HAVE MANY RESIDENTS THAT DID NOT OWN A HOME, THEY WERE RENTERS. I KNOW WE HAVE MADE CHANGES. CAN YOU GIVE US A LITTLE UPDATE? I THINK THAT MATCHES WHERE WE ARE. IT IS TWO SIDES OF THE EQUATION FOR ME. >> THE EASY ANSWER IS WE HAVE REMOVED ALL THE ROADBLOCKS THAT WE HAVE IN THE PAST. WHEN I SAY ROAD BOX, HAD TO BE A PROPERTY OWNER AND HAD TO BE BELOW A CERTAIN INCOME LEVEL. WHAT WE ENDED UP DOING IS WE EVALUATED THE HOUSE AND HOW MUCH CONSUMPTION IT HAD PER SQUARE FOOT. THAT WAS THE QUALIFIER. IF YOU HAVE A POOR FORMING ENERGY HOME , THEN YOU BECAME ELIGIBLE FOR THE WEATHERIZATION OUTREACH PROGRAM. WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR IS WE DID -- WE TRIED TO MAXIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY EACH HOUSE COULD GET RID AFTER CAREFUL EVALUATION THE INSULATION AND THE ROOF IS THE BIGGEST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK. IT INCLUDED REPLACING DOORS, WINDOWS. IT INCLUDED A BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS BUT THEN YOU NEED A CONTRACTOR FOR EACH SKILL SET AND A PERMIT FOR EACH SKILL SET. WITH THE INSTALLATION IT IS EASY. IT IS ONE CONTRACTOR WITH IN AND OUT AND THAT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL. THERE IS NOT AN INCOME BASE. IT IS NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION FOR YOU AS A PROPERTY OWNER -- AND WE ARE MAKING AN EFFORT TO REACH OUT TO THOSE HOUSES. WE HAVE THE DATA. WE USE APPRAISER DATA TO LOOK AT THE SCARE -- SQUARE FOOTAGE. WE DO THAT MAJOR SHOW WHAT HOUSES SHOULD BE ADDRESSED FIRST. THAT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL. LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE IT -- WELL, THIS YEAR, I BELIEVE, WE WILL BE REALLY CLOSE TO RUNNING OUT OF THE FUNDING AVAILABLE TO DO THAT. WHAT THEY MOST SUCCESSFUL YEARS WE HAVE HAD. >> I WANT TO THANK YOU. THIS IS FOUR YEARS AGO WE START HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS. I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO COME BACK AND TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THAT. THAT IS THE PART THAT MAKES THE EQUATION GO. THAT IS WHERE YOU MEET UP AT THE RIGHT RATE. IT IS ALSO HOW WE HELP CITIZENS IN OUR COMMUNITY HAVE MORE EFFICIENT HOMES. IT IS ALL [01:25:01] CITIZENS BUT THE RENTERS AS WELL . WE ARE HEARING THAT THAT THE LANDLORDS WERE UNWILLING OR MAYBE NOT INFORMED OR JUST DID NOT QUALIFY FOR THESE PROGRAMS TO MAKE THEM MORE EFFICIENT. YET THE CONSUMER WAS BEING SQUEEZED BECAUSE THEY WERE TRYING TO COOL THEIR RESIDENCE AND GET RID OF THE HIGH RATE. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO DEFINITELY MAKE SURE WE GET OUT TO THE PUBLIC. THAT IS A LEVEL OF TRUST. AT ONE POINT, PEOPLE DID NOT TRUST THAT THEY THOUGHT THEY MIGHT LOSE THEIR HOMES. YOU REALLY WORK HARD TO BUILD THE TRUST FOR THAT AS PART OF YOUR CORE ELEMENT AT THE FPUA. THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN STAPLES FOUR YEARS AGO. IT IS A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEGUN TO REALLY CORRECT AND MOVE AND FORD IN OUR COMMUNITY. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR COMING . I WANT YOU TO COME BACK TO TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE NUMBERS WE ARE PUTTING IN THERE AND THE NUMBERS GOING FORWARD IN THIS NEW BUDGET. WHAT IS IN OUR NEW BUDGET? IS THAT A BALLPARK ? >> I BELIEVE IS BETWEEN 50 OR 75. >> COME BACK. IN THE PAST WE ALWAYS HAD MONEY LEFT OVER. WE CANNOT GIVE IT AWAY. NOW WE ARE FINDING WAYS AND BEING PROACTIVE TO GO AFTER THESE HIGHLIGHT BILLS TO SAY HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY . THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. >> THE UTILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, JUST ONE QUICK THING THAT HAS BEEN A SUCCESS. IT WILL BE IN EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY FOR YOUNG PEOPLE IN SEPTEMBER, I THINK? >> I BELIEVE IT IS WEDNESDAY. >> IT IS THIS MONTH, OKAY. THEY ARE REALLY, REALLY ACTIVE IN DOING A GOOD JOB. I THINK WE NEED A MOTION FOR THIS. IS THERE A MOTION? >> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE BUDGET FOR FPUA FOR 2024 TO 2025. >> SECOND. >> CALLED ROLE, PLEASE. >> [a. Recommendation of the Keep Fort Pierce Beautiful Advisory Board to Implement an Education Campaign on Littering and Recycling] >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A RECOMMENDATION OF THE KEEP FORCE PIERCE BEAUTIFUL ADVISORY BOARD TO PERMIT AN EDUCATION CAMPAIGN ON LETTERWRITING AND RECYCLING. >> MR. ANDREW, DO YOU HAVE ANY LEAD INTO THIS TOPIC >> THIS IS KIND OF A CONTINUATION OF OUR ADOPTER ROAD IN A DIFFERENT ASPECT. >> WE ARE STILL CONCENTRATING ON BETTER CONTROL. >> YES, WE ARE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SIT IN OR DO YOU WANT TO STAND? YOU ARE WELCOME TO SIT DOWN AND BE COMFORTABLE, IF YOU LIKE. WHO IS GOING FIRST, >> THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, MADAME MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. >> MISS SCOTT. >> I AM HERE BECAUSE I AM THE CHAIR OF THE KEEP HORSE PEERS BEAUTIFUL ADVISORY BOARD. I AM EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT THIS IMPLEMENTATION OF AN EDUCATION CAMPAIGN ON LITTERING AND RECYCLING. IT IS A CONTINUATION OF THE PROGRAM THAT MARSHALL WAS TALKING ABOUT. I WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING I AM EXCITED AND IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH MARSHA IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND I AM EXCITED FOR ALL THE WORK THAT I BELIEVE WILL TAKE PLACE, STARTING OFF FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. THE IDEA CAME FROM THE STRATEGIC PLAN, GOAL ONE OF SERVING THE COMMUNITY BUT GO FOUR, BEAUTIFYING OUR COMMUNITY. THAT IS OUR JOB TO KEEP FORT PIERCE BEAUTIFUL. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IDEAS. WHEN MARSHA CAME TO SPEAK ON THIS INITIATIVE THAT WAS FORMING, THINGS LIKE PLACING ANTI-LITTERING SIGNS AT STRATEGIC LOCATIONS. WE THINK THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT. SOMETHING AS PEOPLE -- SIMPLE AS KEEP FORT PIERCE BEAUTIFUL. NOT A SIMPLE AND ALSO KEEPING THE NAME OF OUR BOARD. WE PROVIDE INCENTIVES FOR COMPLIANCE BUT WE USED TO HAVE A VOLUNTEER EVENT AND JUST SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS SIMPLE ENOUGH AND PEOPLE GET EXCITED ABOUT BEING RECOGNIZED. EXPANDING WHAT MARSHA HAS TALKED ABOUT IN THAT ADOPTER ROAD PROGRAM CAN BE AND SHOULD BE ADDED TO THIS PROGRAM AS WELL. DISTRIBUTE EDUCATIONAL MATERIAL AND. FLYERS AND BROCHURES , HAVING THEM AT THE FRONT DESK IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WERE EVERYONE IS BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA TO PROMOTE ALL OF THESE IDEAS. AND ALSO KEEPING IN MIND THAT WE WOULD WORK WITH SMALL BUSINESSES IN TOWN , AS WELL AS OTHER ORGANIZATIONS WHO HAVE THE GOALS OF EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY. WE DO NOT HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL. WE CAN BUY OUR PARTNERS TO DO THE WORK AND PROVIDE ACCESS TO A PLATFORM FOR OUR CITIZENS. ESTABLISHING AN ANTI-LITTERING MARKETING [01:30:02] GRANT. THAT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. CREATING DECALS AND STICKERS FOR VEHICLES AND OTHER PRODUCTS. I WORK AT THE INDIAN NATIONAL RIVER LAGOON AND I SHOVED MANY PLACES AND WHAT PEOPLE WANT IS OUR STICKERS. THEY STICK THEM ON EVERYWHERE. THERE MAY BE A FEW STUCK DOWNTOWN. IT IS A WAY TO PROMOTE. YOU REALLY DO CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT . PEOPLE DO CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT. WE SHOULD JUST BE A CHAMPION FOR THAT AS WELL. ENGAGING WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, LIKELY SAID. FOR OUR QUARTERLY CLEANUP THAT WE HAVE -- ENTER NEXT QUARTERLY CLEANUP IS SEPTEMBER 28TH -- IN THE PAST, WE HAVE HAD A BUSINESS OWNER WHO IS ON OUR BOARD AND SOMEWHAT SPONSORS THE EVENT. THAT WAS A GREAT HIT. PEOPLE LIKE ORANGE JUICE AND DONUTS. SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS THAT COULD GET A LOT MORE PUT A QUICK PAUSE AND TALK ABOUT OUR QUARTERLY CLEANUP. THE IDEA OF THOSE CLEANUPS IS TO HAVE OUR CITIZENS CLEAN UP THEIR AREA. WE DO NOT HAVE TO HAVE A BIG PARTY. GET WITH YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOUR FRIENDS AND CLEANUP YOUR AREA. NOW WE HAVE A GREAT WAY TO REPORT IT, I THINK WE CAN GET MORE BANG FOR OUR BUCK ESPECIALLY PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO CELEBRATE PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THAT . THERE IS A LOT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY ARE CLEANING UP ALL THE TIME. I'M NOT SURE IF THEY EVEN KNOW THEY CAN SELF-REPORT IT. WE NEED TO DO OUR JOB AND EDUCATE OUR CITIZENS AND THE COMMUNITY GROUPS. ESPECIALLY PUTTING ALL OF THIS ART CITY'S SOCIAL MEDIA. I ADMIT I DON'T GO ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT OFTEN BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE DO. OF A SIMPLE POST ARE YOU SENT OF THE CLEAR WITH ALL THE DAYS COMING BACK AND GET PEOPLE GOING TO THE WEBSITE. THERE IS A LOT OF EASY WAYS OF THINGS WE ARE DOING AND I KNOW STAFF IS DOING THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO EXPAND OUR PROGRAM. ALSO OUR BLUE TUBE PROGRAM. IF WE CAN EXPAND THAT AND PLACE MORE BLUE TUBES IN NEIGHBORHOODS, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. IN A LITTLE STICK IN A LITTLE BOX. INSIDE THE BOX THERE IS A BUNCH OF GARBAGE BAGS AND YOU CAN GRAB A GARBAGE BAG AND PICK UP THE TRASH THAT YOU SEE AND HOPEFULLY THERE IS A TRASH CAN AROUND AND YOU CAN DROP IT IN THERE. WE SHOULD ALSO WORK WITH LOCAL SCHOOLS AND COLLEGES, IRS SEE THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL CAMPUS. I AM OFTEN AROUND THERE AND IT IS CLEAN. THERE IS A LOT OF STUDENTS THERE AND A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR THEM TO VOLUNTEER. THEY ARE OFTEN LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES. LEAKING TO OUR QUARTERLY CLEANUP, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT BENEFIT. AND OUR SCHOOL BOARD , A LOT OF TIMES, AROUND OUR SCHOOLS, I WILL GIVE A SHOUT TO MY FAVORITE SCHOOLS CA MOORE. THEY CLEAN UP ON THEIR OWN. WE HAVE AN OFFICER THAT IS THERE WHO PARTICIPATES WITH THE BOARD. WE GET MORE SCHOOLS INVOLVED AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO REPORT TO THE PROGRAM, WE CAN HAVE A LOT OF NUMBERS THAT WOULD DEFINITELY SERVE AS OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO USE THAT AS A GRANT MATCH FOR VOLUNTEER HOURS AND OTHER GRANT OPPORTUNITIES. UTILIZING CITY EVENTS AND SPONSORED EVENTS FOR EDUCATION. WITH WHAT PAUL WAS TIME-OUT EARLIER, A LOT OF THAT IS SO IMPORTANT. THE STORMWATER ASPECT IS DEFINITELY TIED INTO THIS WORK. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE SIGNS THAT SAY THAT'S NOT WHAT IS IT? ALL DRAINS LEAD TO THE LAGOON. THAT IS A SIMPLE EDUCATION CAMPAIGN. INCORPORATING DETAILS ABOUT THE CITY'S LITTERING ORNAMENTS INTO THE MESSAGE. WHEN PEOPLE KNOW IT IS A RULE, TO ME , HOPEFULLY, WE UNDERSTAND THAT IS IMPORTANT. SIGNAGE ABOUT IT BEING A RULE IS SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT. IF WE CAN HAVE MORE SIGNS TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A RULE HERE AND HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WILL START TO DO THAT. WE ARE EXCITED TO WORK WITH STAFF AS THE KEEP FOR PIERCE BEAUTIFUL BOARD . WE MAKE A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION TO IMPLEMENT THIS EDUCATION CAMPAIGN ON LITTERING AND RECYCLING. >> MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY ADD. IN ADDITION TO THAT RECORDATION WITH THE BOARD IS ADVISING IS THAT STAFF WOULD COME UP WITH A PLAN. AS YOU CAN SEE THESE ARE A LOT OF ACTIVITIES THAT WILL REQUIRE RESOURCES . IT WILL CHRIST A METHODOLOGY TO ENSURE IT IS EFFECTIVE. THEY ARE RECOMMENDING THAT STAFF WOULD COME UP WITH A PLAN ON HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THESE THINGS AND THEN THROUGH PARTNERSHIP WITH THE BOARD ON A REGULAR BASIS, WE CAN WORK WITH THEM ON IMPLEMENTATION AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I MEET WITH THE KEEP FOR PIERCE BEAUTIFUL GROUP . I'M NOT REALLY ASSIGNED TO IT BY THIS COMMISSION BUT THAT IS JUST SOMETHING I AM INTERESTED IN. THEY ARE VERY, VERY INTERESTED IN IMPLEMENTING THIS PROGRAM. WHAT I BROUGHT TO THEM , WHEN I [01:35:01] WAS GROWING UP, THE ANTI-LITTER CAMPAIGN WAS HUGE . IT WAS INGRAINED IN OUR CONSCIOUSNESS. THE LITTER BECAME KIND OF ONE OF THE WORST THINGS THAT YOU COULD DO. SOMEHOW, WE HAVE GOTTEN AWAY FROM THAT AS A COUNTRY AND AS A SOCIETY. WE JUST NEED TO BRING THAT CONSCIOUSNESS BACK ABOUT HOW DESTRUCTIVE LITTER IS TO THE CLIMATE AND TO THE WATERWAYS BECAUSE THERE IS A WHOLE NEW GENERATION PEOPLE WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT. SOMEHOW, DO NOT CONNECT LITTER AND THE ENVIRONMENT AND THEY SHOULD. I APPRECIATE BRING THIS TO THE COMMISSION . AND WHAT WE HAVE AT THE GROUP, THE KEEP FOR PIERCE BEAUTIFUL COMMITTEE, IS A COMMITTEE THAT REALLY LIKES TO WORK . THEY LIKE TO CLEAN UP. THEY LIKE THE QUARTERLY CLEANUPS AND THEY WANT TO DO THAT. THEY WANT EVERYBODY ELSE TO BE TOP OF MIND TOO. WE WOULD KIND OF LIKE TO SPREAD THAT MESSAGE THROUGHOUT, NOT ONLY OUR CITIZENS BUT OUR OWN STAFF. EVERYBODY TO BE CONSCIOUS. COMMISSIONER GAINES, YOU ARE RIGHT. I HAD SIMPLY SEND ME A PICTURE AND I THINK YOU GOT THE PICTURE TOO . THIS TRASH, THE CITY NEEDS TO PICK UP THIS TRASH. LOOK AT THIS PICTURE THINKING, I THINK I KNOW WHERE THAT IS. IT WAS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS BUSINESSMAN 'S WINDOW. HE COULD HAVE GONE OVER THERE AND PICKED UP THE TRASH. I WENT THERE AND PICKED UP THE TRASH. I KNEW WHERE IT WAS AND I WANTED TO TAKE A PICTURE OF IT AND SEND IT BACK TO HIM. IT IS EVERYBODY'S RESPONSIBILITY. NOT JUST PUBLIC WORKS. I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS. EVERYBODY NEEDS TO TAKE THEIR OWN RESPONSIBILITY FOR BEST WITH HOW THEY WANT THEIR CITY TO LOOK. >> MADAM MAYOR, YOU DON'T NEED THOSE EMAILS. I ALREADY GET THEM. WHEN YOU SAY WHAT YOU JUST SAID ABOUT HOW LITTER WAS INGRAINED -- ANTI- LITTER WAS INGRAINED. IT BROUGHT BACK MEMORIES OF THE MERGED WITH THE INDIAN CHIEF AND ONE TEAR GOING DOWN THE FACE. THE COMMERCIAL DID NOT SAY ANYTHING BUT IT JUST SAW HIM CRYING AND SHOWED EVERYTHING. YOU ARE RIGHT. I LOVE THIS IDEA. ONE OF THE THINGS , I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS CAMPAIGN, ONE THING FOR US TO SAY IT YOUR GROUP TO SAY IT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT GETTING SOME CITIZENS FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COMMUNITIES , ALL OF FORT PIERCE. AND HAVE THEM PART OF YOUR CAMPAIGN -- >> A VIDEO. >> THEM SAYING, IT MATTERS HERE. IT MATTERS HERE. AND LET THAT BE OUR CAMPAIGN. THAT THE CITIZENS TAKE CONTROL . THEIR PROPERTIES AND THEIR LOCATIONS. AND THEN YOU PUT YOUR SPIN ON IT AT THE END AND WE GO FROM THERE. ANYTHING TO WORK TO KEEP OUR CITY , YOU KNOW, BEAUTIFUL . I WAS REAL NICE, META MAYOR. I WAS NICE WHEN WE GOT ACCUSED OF BEING A DIRTY CITY. I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT RIGHT THERE. WE ARE NOT. I KNOW PEOPLE TAKE PRIDE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. IF YOU EVER GO TO THE JETTY ON SATURDAY NIGHT. WHAT YOU DO NOT KNOW IS ALL THE PEOPLE THAT GET UP SUNDAY MORNING AND CLEAN IT UP. IF YOU EVER GO TO ONE OF THE CONCERTS ARE ONE OF THE AREAS IN THE LINCOLN PARK AREA. THERE IS THE FRIDAY NIGHT OR THE SATURDAY NIGHT PARTY. >> JAZZ ON MOORE CREEK . >> WHAT EVER YOU WANT -- RIGHT . AFTER THOSE EVENTS, THERE ARE RESIDENTS . THE CITY DOES A GOOD JOB CLEANING UP AFTER THE FACT THAT THERE ARE RESIDENTS THAT WALK. I SEE THEM PERSONALLY THAT WALK EVERY MORNING. THEY WALK EVERY MORNING BY THEMSELVES JUST DO IT. IT HAS BEEN DONE BUT WE HAVE TO GET THEM TO THOSE PEOPLE AND GET THE MIND-SET, AS THE MAYOR SAID, TO GO BACK. AS CURTIS JOHNSON SAID EARLIER, TO GO BACK . IT DRIVES ME CRAZY, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, WHEN I AM RIDING BEHIND SOMEBODY AND I SEE THE WINDOW OPEN. THEY FILL IT OUT. YOU GUYS KNOW ME. [01:40:08] SHOULD I REALLY BLOW MY HORN COMMISSION I REALLY BLOW MY HORN? I GET INTO THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS MCDONALD'S BAG ? WHAT I USUALLY DO IS MAKE SURE I STOP THE CAR SO EVERYBODY BEHIND ME BLOWING THE HORN AT ME SO THEY SEE WHAT I AM DOING SO THEY STOP BLOWING THE HORN AT OTHER PEOPLE I DON'T GET IT . AS YOU SAID, GROWING UP AND LITTERING , MY MOM WOULD HAVE -- OH, Y. I WISH MY MOM AND DAD SAW ME THROW SOMETHING OUT OF THE CARPET YOU LOST YOUR MIND ? THEY WOULD MAKE ME CLEAN UP THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD. I LOVE THESE IDEAS. IT JUST GOES TO WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO TO SHOW THE WORLD HOW UNIQUE FORT PIERCE IS. IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY. ANYTHING I CAN DO, LET ME KNOW . I AM WITH YOU. >> I HAVE A BRIEF COMMENT. I LIKE IT. I WANT TO THINK ABOUT LITTERING, BESIDES PAPER. I AM GREATLY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT I SEE PARTICULARLY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WITH LAWN CLIPPINGS. PEOPLE ARE DELIBERATELY BLOWING THEM OUT INTO THE SWELLS . AND THAT CLIPPING ENDS UP IN THE STORM WATER TREATMENT AND PROBABLY IN THE LAGOON AT SOME POINT. I KNOW SOME COMMUNITIES, SOME OF THE OTHER COASTAL COMMUNITIES, BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF UTILIZATION THEY PUT ON THE GRASS TO KEEP THEM GREAT AND WHAT EVER, THEY HAVE NOTICED A DIFFERENCE AND PHOSPHATE LEVELS IN THEIR LAGOONS. I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE HERE BUT WE PROBABLY HAVE SOME OF THE SAME CHALLENGES. I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO MAKE SURE WE ARE TRAINING TO COMMUNICATE TO OUR LAW PROFESSIONALS TO SPECIFICALLY THING THAT IS LITTERING AS WELL. IT IS NOT JUST PAPER AND BOTTLES. I AM GREATLY CONCERNED . NOT ONLY THAT BUT SOME OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT MAY NEED TO TAKE THIS UNDER ADVISEMENT AS WELL. I SAW SOME STUFF THAT CONCERNED ME. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT MESSAGE OUT. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THOSE CLIPPINGS , THE GRASS. WHATEVER IS ON IT WILL END UP IN THE LAGOON AND THAT WILL CAUSE ISSUES HERE. ESPECIALLY AS WE GET MORE GROWTH >> MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY? >> YES. >> I AGREE . THERE ARE THINGS THAT MIGHT >> YOU NEED TO SPEAK UP OR GET CLOSER TO THE MIC . >> I AGREE THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO IN-HOUSE. I THINK WE HAVE TO LEAD THE EFFORT FROM WITH IN AS WELL. WE HAVE TO BE THE CHANGE YOU WANT TO SEE. AND EVEN AT OUR LAST ADVISORY BOARD MEETING, IT WAS DISCUSSED THAT WE CAN CHANGE THE CULTURE OF OUR ORGANIZATION AND HOW WE DEAL WITH LATER BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, ALSO MAKING SURE WE EXTEND AN INVITATION FOR BUSINESSES TO PARTICIPATE AND UNDERSTANDING THE EFFECT ON THE ENVIRONMENT. THAT WAS ANOTHER EMPHASIS OF THE BOARD. HELPING THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT BOTH ON LAND AND WATER WITH ANYTHING THAT CAN BECOME A HAZARD. >> VERY EARLY ON, SCOTT AND I WORKED ON THAT MY CONCERN WAS I SEE PEOPLE CATCHING FISH AND SOME OF THESE ESTUARIES AND WE HAD LET A WHOLE EFFORT . FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND THESE CLIPPINGS IS IMPACTING THE FISH THAT THERE EATING OUT OF THERE, WE STILL WHOLE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERN. IT IS A HELP ENVIRONMENT CONCERN. UF A STUNNING MATT. PEOPLE TROUBLE ME. PEOPLE ARE CATCHING FISH AT OF THESE CANALS AND CONSUMING THEM. WE SAW A RISE IN OUR COMMUNITY OF CANCERS , DIABETES AND ALL THE STUFF. IT IS SOMETHING NOT TALKED ABOUT. I WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT THAT BECAUSE THAT IS AN ISSUE WITH THE HAVING CHURCHES INVOLVES TO BRING UP THE EDUCATION LEVEL. >> I HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF THOUGHTS AS YOU WERE SPEAKING. IT IS SUCH A HEALTHY -- IT IS IMPACTING ALL OF OUR HEALTH BUT ALSO ARE A COME ON ME. I THINK THERE IS A WAY TO DEFINITELY BRING BACK OUR AGENCY WOULD A STUDY ON THE LAGOON THIS YEAR. IT IS ABOUT SEVEN LINCOLN DOLLARS TO OUR LOCAL ECONOMY , THE WHOLE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON. ONCE WE START EDUCATING OUR BUSINESS OWNERS ON HOW MUCH MORE THEY CAN GAIN BY KEEPING OUR CITY BEAUTIFUL . I WANT TO ADD THE TREASURE COAST WATERWAY CLEANUP AND THESE OTHER INITIATIVES THAT ARE HERE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL. IT HAPPENED IN JULY. LAST YEAR, WE PICKED UP -- JUST IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE .93 TIMES IN ONE MORNING. THAT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR. THIS IS THE 17TH YEAR AND WE PICKED UP .98 THIS YEAR. WHEN MORE PEOPLE IN [01:45:05] THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE CITY OF PORT ST. LUCIE. WE HAVE A COMMUNITY CARES. I THINK ABOUT CHANGING THE CULTURE FROM WITH AND AND IT WILL CHANGE WITHOUT. THIS INITIATIVE AND CAMPAIGN WILL BE A GREAT SUCCESS AS LONG AS EVERYONE BELIEVES IT AND ACT LIKE THEY KNOW IT. MAYBE WE GET SOME BUTTONS FOR CITY STAFF TO WEAR. IT JUST SAYS KEEP FOR PIERCE BEAUTIFUL WITH A NEW LOGO ON THE -- ON IT. THERE'S A LOT OF WAY TO GET THIS DONE. THANK YOU. >> I THINK WE NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS INITIATIVE AND MAKING A PLAN. THAT IS WHERE WE ARE GOING. IS THERE A MOTION TO DO THAT? >> I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THIS AND IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM. >> SECOND. >> THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE ROLE, PLEASE. >> >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE ARE OFF HERE. WE ARE STARTING. [b. Discussion and direction regarding the Second Amendment to the Amended and Restated Agreement for Development of King's Landing.] >> THE NEXT AND ON AGE AND IT DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION REGARDING THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDED AND RESTATED AGREEMENT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF KING'S LANDING. >> I THINK THIS IS YOUR ITEM. >> YES, MA'AM IT IS. BY WAY OF BACKGROUND WHERE WE ARE, CURRENTLY WITH THIS AGREEMENT, THERE WAS A NOTICE OF DEFAULT THAT WAS SENT BY THE CITY MANAGER TO AUTOBAHN. THIS IS WAY TO THE FOUNDER OF PIPER BUILDING PERMITS FOR PHASE TWO. THAT DEADLINE WAS MISSED . IF YOU RECALL THEY REQUESTED AN EXTENSION OF THAT PERIOD WHICH WAS GRANTED . OF THAT PERIOD RAN. THERE WAS A REQUEST , BASICALLY, TO EXTEND WHAT WE WERE DOING AGAIN . IN THE MEANTIME OF THAT THERE IS A SECONDARY DEFAULT THAT IS CURRENTLY HANGING OUT THERE RELATED TO THE FAILURE TO COMMENCE CONSTRUCTION ON PHASE TWO . THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE GONE BY JUNE 16, 2024 PURSUANT TO YOUR DIRECTION. WE DID NOT SEND THE NOTICE OF DEFAULT FOR THAT IS OUT THERE HANGING OUT. WHAT YOU ALL HAD INSTRUCTED WAS , ESSENTIALLY, WITH THE BRING OF HERBERT REALTY SERVICES LLC INTO THE PICTURE, ADDITIONAL TIME WAS GRANTED FOR AUTOBAHN AND HARBOR TO WORK OUT A DEAL RELATED TO A JOINT VENTURE PARTNERSHIP . THEY DID PROVIDE A SALIENT TERMS AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO ENTITIES THAT WAS SENT TO YOU. THAT BECAME AN EXHIBIT TO THE SECOND AMENDMENT THAT HAS BEEN DRAFTED. WHAT YOU HAVE, I HANDED OUT HARD COPIES TO EACH OF YOU. IT IS AN UPDATED SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE RESTATED AGREEMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT OF KING'S LANDING AND FROM WHAT YOU RECEIVED OVER THE WEEKEND. I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH THOSE TERMS WITH YOU ALL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, AS I AM ON ONE, I THINK IT WILL BE BEST TO STOP AND GO THROUGH IT AS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT EACH ITEM, IF THAT IS OKAY. >> IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS CAN ASK AT THAT POINT? >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE BEST. THE FIRST PAGE KIND OF TRACKS THE BACKGROUND HISTORY OF WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE HAVE BEEN RELATED TO THIS AGREEMENT AND ALL OF THAT WHEREAS CLAUSES. WE ARE UNDER THE AMENDED AND RESTATED AND THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THIS AGREEMENT . WHEN WE GO TO THE RECITALS ON THE SECOND PAGE -- WHEN WE START OUT AT NUMBER THREE , YOUR REAL MAIN TERM THAT IS EXISTING HERE . AUTOBAHN HAS PROVIDED A REVISED DEVELOPMENT TIMELINE . THEY HAVE INCLUDED IN 3A, B, C THE THREE DATES FOR THE TIMELINE. THE GANT CHART WHICH ENCOMPASSES THESE TIMELINES IS EXHIBIT A TO THIS AGREEMENT. IT IS POSTED ON THE WEBSITE AND YOU RECEIVE THAT THROUGH EMAIL AS WELL. WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS THAT FOR PHASE ONE THIS CONSTRUCTION WILL BE COMPLETED BY JULY 11TH , 2028. THIS IS ABOUT 2 1/2 YEARS BEHIND WHERE WE WERE PREVIOUSLY. >> EXCUSE ME. JUST REMIND ME, PHASE ONE IS WET? >> PHASE ONE IS THE HOTEL. THE MAIN THING IS THE HOTEL. >> HOTEL AND STRUCTURE? >> YES, SIR. PHASE TWO NOW HAS THE BUILDING PERMITS ARE D.C. PR MUST BE A FIVE BOARD NO LATER THAN FEBRUARY 24TH CONSTRUCTION MUST COMMENCE BY MAY 19TH , 2027 AND CONSTRUCTION SHALL BE COMPLETED [01:50:02] BY MAY 29TH 2029. AGAIN THIS IS ABOUT TWO AND HALF YEARS LATER THAN WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE. PHASE THREE TIMELINES HAVE BEEN CHANGED TO DCPR OR BUILDING PERMITS APPLIED FOR BY AUGUST 23RD, 2028 AND COMMENDING CONCERNS BY NOVEMBER 15, 2028 AND COMPLETING CONSTRUCTION BY NOVEMBER 13, 2029. THIS IS ABOUT THREE YEARS BEHIND WHERE THE CURRENT TIMELINES ARE. >> EXCUSE ME, REMIND ME ONE MORE TIME WHAT IS PHASE TWO AND THREE? WHAT ARE WE GETTING? >> PHASE TWO HAS BUILDING C. WHICH IS AN 11 STORY BUILDING WITH RESTAURANT RETAIL AND RESIDENTIAL UNITS. BUILDING D, AND A SORTING BOWLING WITH RESTAURANT RETAIL AND 19 UNITS. BUILDING F, A GRANDPA RESTAURANT AND RETAIL. BUILDING G IS AN EIGHT STORY BUILDING WITH RETAIL AND 25 RESIDENTS UNITS. PHASE THREE IS BUILDING A, A THREE-STORY BUILDING WITH RESTAURANT, RETAIL AND 14 RESIDENTIAL UNIT BUILDING B, A TWO STORY RESTAURANT FOR >> IT SOUNDS TO ME THAT PHASE TWO IS A LOT OF THE RESIDENTIAL PARTS OF THIS PROJECT. AND THEN PHASE THREE HAS A FEW MORE RESIDENTS PLUS RETAIL SPACE. >> THE BULK OF THE RETAIL AND RESIDENTIAL IS IN PHASE TWO >> THANK YOU. >> PHASE ONE IS A HOTEL, INFRASTRUCTURE AND PERMISSIBLE ALL THE TOWNHOUSES FOR BACKUS AVENUE. I DO NOT BELIEVE THE PARKING GARAGE IS ON THE CURRENT SITE PLAN. I COULD BE WRONG. I WILL LET AUTOBAHN ANSWER THAT ONE. I WOULD HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH THE PARKING GARAGE IS. WHAT IS ALSO INCLUDED IS INFORMATION RELATED TO THE GANTT CHART . IT CLARIFIES THAT IT ANY OF THE TASK WITH THE START AND FINISH DATE TIMES THEY HAVE INCLUDED ON THE CHART ARE MISSED, THAT WOULD BE A BREACH OF THIS AGREEMENT. >> MADAM ATTORNEY, BEFORE YOU TURN OVER. ON PAGE TWO, MY QUESTION IS , AT THE BEGINNING OF PAGE TWO , IT SAYS THAT THE PARTIES INTEND TO FINALIZE THEIR JOINT VENTURE. DO WE KNOW HOW CLOSE THEY ARE TO FINALIZING AND WHAT STAGE OF FINALIZING? WHEN I SEE THE WORD INTEND, AND I CAN GO A LOT OF WAYS. YOU KNOW, WE ARE ASKING TO DO SOMETHING. I UNDERSTAND THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS SIGNED ON JULY 25TH. THE FIRST THING I SEE IS INTEND. HAVE WE HAD ANY COMMUNICATIONS TO SAY HOW FAR THEY ARE LONG IN THE AGREEMENT? IS IT CERTAIN ? WE ALL HOPE SO BUT IS IT CERTAIN THAT THIS WILL BE FINALIZED? WITH ICY INTEND TO FINALIZE, IT MEANS IT IS STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS. IS IT A ZERO? IS IT AT 50? IS IT AT 95%? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHERE THIS AGREEMENT TO FINALIZE THIS JOINT VENTURE IS? >> YES, SIR. DROPPING OUT JUST A LITTLE BIT, PARAGRAPH 10 WILL ADDRESS THE JOINT VENTURE PARTNERSHIP. THEY HAVE ENTERED INTO THE SALIENT TERMS. THE SALIENT TERMS ALLOWS FOR 90 DAYS DUE DILIGENCE. THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL 90 DAYS WHERE THEY FINALIZE THE AGREEMENT WHEREBY THEY ARE IN CONVERSATION ONLY WITH THE OTHER -- WITH EACH OTHER TO FINALIZE THAT . IT WOULD BE 180 DAYS TO FINALIZE THE JOINT VENTURE PARTNERSHIP. IF THAT IS NOT FINALIZED, THAT WOULD BE A BREACH OF THE AGREEMENT. >> IS WERE I WAS GOING WITH THIS. BASICALLY, WHERE IT SAYS WERE AS INTENDED, THEY ARE REALLY ASKING FOR 180 DAYS OR SIX MONTHS, I THINK, TO FINALIZE THEIR AGREEMENT >> YES, SIR. THEY HAVE PUT TOGETHER RETURNS ABOUT THEIR PARTNERSHIPS WILL BE IN THE WORKINGS OF FINALIZING THAT INFORMING THE LLC THAT WILL BE THE JOINT VENTURE PARTNERSHIP. >> THANK YOU. >> PARAGRAPH FOUR , EXHIBIT F IS A MANAGER TRACK WITH THE NEW DATES THERE IN PARAGRAPH THREE. PARAGRAPH FIVE PROVIDES NOW FOR PROGRESS UPDATES. AUTOBAHN WILL SUBMIT WRITTEN UPDATES MONTHLY TO THE COMMISSION AND THE FPR A BOARD. THEY WILL COME IN [01:55:02] QUARTERLY TO THE CITY COMMISSION OR THE FPRA TO DO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT EITHER OF THE BOARDS HAVE FOR THEM . PARAGRAPH SIX IS DOCUMENT PRODUCTION. THE AUTOBAHN IS REQUIRED TO PRODUCE TO THE CITY DOCUMENTATION SHOWING THE SUBMISSION OF THEIR FRANCHISE APPLICATION TO MARRIOTT . THE DATE THEY SELECTED WITH THAT WOULD BE NO LATER THAN JANUARY 29TH OF 2025. THEY ARE THEN REQUIRED WITHIN FIVE BUSINESS DAYS OF RECEIVING EITHER APPROVAL OR DENIAL FOR MARRIOTT TO PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION TO THE CITY TO LET US KNOW THE DECISION. >> GO AHEAD. >> GENERALLY 29, THAT IS THE DATE SELECTED BECAUSE THAT IS AFTER THE 100? >> I'M NOT SURE THE REASON THEY REQUESTED THAT DATE. THAT IS THE DATE THEY REQUESTED FOR WHEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THAT SUBMITTED BY. IF THAT IS NOT A DATE YOU ARE OKAY WITH, I THINK WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION TODAY. WE CAN MAKE CHANGES TO THAT OF ALL PARTIES ARE IN AGREEMENT. >> QUICKLY. A QUESTION. SECTION 10 REFERS BACK TO THE 100 80 DAY PERIOD . IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT 180 DAY TIMELINE INCLUDES 90 DAYS FOR DUE DILIGENCE AND THEN 90 DAYS, IN THEORY, TO CLOSE. >> CORRECT. >> IS THAT A FAIR DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THE TIMELINE REFLECTS? >> YES, SIR. >> WE WILL ASK YOU ABOUT MINTING THEMSELVES IT APPEARS THE HOTEL APPLICATION IS TIMED FOR AT THE END OF THAT WITH THE 180 DAYS HAS EXPIRED. THE DUE DILIGENCE HAS EXPIRED. THEY HAVE DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND THEY MADE IT THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS. AND THEN THEY MAKE APPLICATION. THAT IS HOW IT APPEARS TO ME. >> I DO THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THE SALIENT TERMS BETWEEN AUTOBAHN AND HARBERT RELATE TO EVERYTHING IN THIS DEVELOPMENT EXCEPT FOR THE HOTEL. HARBERT IS NOT INVOLVED UNDER SALIENT TERMS. THE DEAL RELATED TO THE HOTEL IS WITH MAINSAIL. THERE IS AN AND OU BETWEEN AUTOBAHN AND MAINSAIL RELATED TO THE HOTEL DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE REQUESTED AND NOT SEEN IT YET. I DON'T THEY HAVE WITH THEM TODAY TO PROVIDE OR IF THEY CAN GO THROUGH THE TERMS OF THAT M.O. YOU WITH MAINSAIL WITH YOU TODAY. >> THERE IS AN M.O. YOU IN THE MAIL SELL FOR THE BUILDING OF THE HOTEL. THIS CONTRACT IS TRYING TO SOLIDIFY RELATION WITH A DEVELOPER AND AUTOBAHN TO DO WHAT I THOUGHT THAT WAS TO BUILD A HOTEL. IF YOU READ THROUGH THE SALIENT TERMS , THE JOINT VENTURE ADDRESSES DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE PROPERTY. THE PROJECT IS 106 CONDOMINIUMS . IT DOES HAVE THE HOTEL , THE RETAIL, THE RESTAURANTS, THE LAND FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND STRUCTURE PARKING. WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THIS, IT DOES HAVE THE DIFFERENT CAPITAL INVESTMENTS THAT WILL BE MADE PER AUTOBAHN EMPEROR HARBERT. I CAN LET THEM EXPLAIN THIS . WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PARTNERSHIP HARBERT WILL HAVE A 60% INTEREST IN THIS . AUTOBAHN WILL HAVE A 40% INTEREST IN THIS. AS I READ THROUGH THIS, THERE IS AN EXCLUSION. I'M TRYING TO FIND THIS AND .11 OF THE SALIENT TERMS THAT THE HOTEL IS A SEPARATE SIGNED M.O. YOU BETWEEN MAINSAIL LODGING AND DEVELOPMENT AND HRS. SORRY, HRS ATTACHED WITH HARBERT. THEY WILL NEED TO CLARIFY WHAT THE BREAKDOWN IS. I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT. THEY ARE NODDING THEY CAN CLARIFY HOW THIS WILL BE STRUCTURED. IF I MISSPOKE, THEY CAN CORRECT THAT. I DO NOT HAVE THAT DOCUMENT YET. >> LET ME BE CLEAR. , SATURDAY SUNDAY TO FINALIZE THIS. THERE WAS ONE ASPECT WE WERE DISCUSSING THROUGH THE WEEKEND. ON SUNDAY EVENING I RECEIVED THE FINAL EMAIL AUTHORIZING [02:00:01] THIS ONE AGREEMENT TO BE PRESENTED TO YOU. THAT WAS ADDED TO THE AGENDA THIS MORNING, UPDATED AND PRINTED FOR YOU THIS MORNING AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH CURRENTLY. >> COULD I ASK YOU TO DISCLOSE WHAT THAT FINAL THING WAS THAT CAUSED US TO GET THIS AS YOU WALKED IN AND HANDED THIS OUT ? >> WHEN YOU GET TO PARAGRAPH 10 , PARAGRAPH 10 HAD LANGUAGE IN IT THAT IF THE JOINT VENTURE TERMS BETWEEN A AUDUBON AND HARBERT WERE TERMINATED OR BREACHED, THAT WOULD VOID THIS SECOND AMENDMENT MEANING WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY GO BACK TO WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME. THE REQUEST HAD BEEN TO REMOVE THAT LANGUAGE SO WE ARE MOVING FORWARD UNDER THIS SECOND AMENDMENT AND THAT AUDUBON HAS TO FINALIZE THAT DEAL. OTHERWISE IF THAT DEAL WITH HARBERT DOES NOT COME TO FRUITION, THAT WOULD BE A BREACH AND WE WOULD THEN BE UNDER -- I BELIEVE IT IS PARAGRAPH 10 -- SORRY, PARAGRAPH 12. PARAGRAPH 10 OF THE AMENDED AND RESTATED AGREEMENT RELATED TO DEFAULT AND THE REVERTER FOR THE PROPERTY . >> GO AHEAD. >> ESSENTIALLY THAT WAS MY CONCERN. WE HAD A DISCUSSION IN MY FIRST REVIEW WHICH WENT BACK TO -- WHICH PARAGRAPH IS IT? SECTION 7 RELATED TO THE DEBRIS REMOVAL. HAS THAT BEEN SATISFIED OR AT LEAST THAT LANGUAGE HAS BEEN MODIFIED TO SATISFY MY CONCERN? >> YES, SIR. UNDER THIS AGREEMENT -- YES, SIR. UNDER THIS AGREEMENT THE WAIVER RELATED TO THE CONCRETE AND ADDITIONAL CLAIMS WILL STAND MOVING FORWARD WHETHER THERE IS A BREACH OR NOT. >> GOT IT. THANK YOU. >> YES, MA'AM ? >> I BELIEVE WE ARE TO PARAGRAPH SEVEN, REMOVAL OF BURIED CONCRETE. AS YOU ARE AWARE, ONCE WE DEFAULTED AUDUBON, THEY SEND CORRESPONDENCE BASICALLY SAYING THEY BELIEVED WE WERE IN BREACH RELATED TO THE $170,000 FOR CONCRETE. THEY TOOK THE POSITION WE OWED THEM UP TO THE ENTIRE AMOUNT THAT WAS EXPENDED TO REMOVE THAT CONCRETE. IN REVIEWING ALL OF THE RECORDS IN THE MEETINGS, IT WAS CLEAR TO THE CITY THE INTENT WAS IT WOULD BE UP TO HUNDRED $70,000 AS VOTED ON BY THE FPRA AND SENT TO AUDUBON . WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN PARAGRAPH SEVEN, WE ARE BASICALLY AMENDING THE LANGUAGE OF PARAGRAPH 27 IN THE AMENDED AND RESTATED AGREEMENT TO CLARIFY THAT ALL THAT WAS OWED TO AUDUBON WAS UP TO THE $170,000 . IN PARAGRAPH EIGHT, AUDUBON IS AGREEING THE CITY HAS PAID THAT $170,000 AND THE CITY IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OF ITS OBLIGATIONS FOR THE DEBRIS REMOVAL . PARAGRAPH NINE THEN TIES INTO THAT . IT IS A WAIVER OF CLAIMS OF DEFAULT AUDUBON HAS MADE AGAINST THE CITY WHICH INCLUDES THE DEBRIS CONCRETE REMOVAL. MISREPRESENTATIONS RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE KING'S LANDING RIGHT. ANY CLAIMS RELATED TO UNCLEAR TITLE AND DELAYS IN PERMITTING REVIEW OR APPROVAL, UP UNTIL THIS POINT IN TIME. PARAGRAPH 10 RELATES TO THE JOINT VENTURE PARTNERSHIP . PARAGRAPH 12 IN THE AMENDED AND RESTATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IF THERE IS A JOINT PARTNERSHIP, THERE IS AN APPROVAL REQUIRED BY THE CITY COMMISSIONER AND THE BOARD, SO THIS TAKES CARE OF THAT PROVISION. WHAT THIS DOES, IT REQUIRES AUDUBON TO FOLLOW THE SALIENT TERMS WHICH WILL BE EXHIBIT B TO THIS AMENDMENT. IF THAT -- IF THOSE TERMS ARE BREACHED OR TERMINATED, PRIOR TO THE FINALIZATION OF THE JOINT VENTURE AGREEMENT, THAT IS A VIOLATION BREACH OF THIS CONTRACT. WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH DEFAULT AS WELL AS THE REVERTER UNDER THE CONTRACT. AS IS STANDARD WITH THE CONTRACT THERE IS 30 DAYS HOWEVER FOR AUDUBON TO CURE ANY BREACH THAT MAY OCCUR. IF THE SALIENT TERMS ARE TO BE AMENDED PRIOR TO THE FINALIZATION OF THE JOINT VENTURE AGREEMENT, AUTOBAHN DOES HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE CITY AND THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL OF THOSE CHANGES. I THINK THE MAIN CONCERN WOULD BE IF THERE IS SOME SORT OF CHANGE IN PERCENTAGE , OWNERSHIP [02:05:02] RESPONSIBILITY OF THAT JOINT VENTURE PARTNERSHIP BUT ANY TERM THEY DO SEEK TO CHANGE, THEY WILL HAVE TO COME BACK FOR OUR APPROVAL TO DO SO. THE FINAL PARAGRAPH, PARAGRAPH 10 RELATES TO THE FINAL FORMATION OF THE JOINT VENTURE PARTNERSHIP. THERE WILL BE THE FORMATION OF A LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY THAT HAS TO BE WITHIN 180 DAYS OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS AGREEMENT, SO IT IS ON TODAY FOR THE CITY COMMISSION TO CONSIDER. IT WILL BE ON TOMORROW FOR THE FPRA BOARD TO CONSIDER , SO ONCE ALL PARTIES SIGN THAT AT SOME POINT I WOULD PRESUME TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY , THAT IS WHEN THIS AGREEMENT WILL BE EFFECTIVE. THEN AGAIN IF THAT LLC IS NOT FORMED WITHIN THE 180 DAYS OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE THAT IS A BREACH AND WE CAN PROCEED UNDER PARAGRAPH 10 WITH THE DEFAULT AND REVERTER AS WELL AS AUDUBON HAS 30 DAYS TO CURE . THE FINAL PARAGRAPH THE KIND OF -- NOT REALLY THAT IMPORTANT. BASICALLY THEY CANNOT AMEND WITHOUT IT BEING IN WRITING FURTHER AND WE CAN EXECUTE DUPLICATE DOCUMENTS TO FINALIZE THIS CONTRACT. SO , THAT IS THE PROPOSED SECOND AMENDMENT THAT AUTOBAHN AND MYSELF HAVE DISCUSSED TAKING INTO ACCOUNT ALL OF THE DIRECTIVES WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN FROM THE CITY COMMISSION AND FPRA BOARD PREVIOUSLY SO I WOULD PRESUME YOU PROBABLY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR THEM. THEY ARE HERE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. YOUR OPTIONS TODAY THAT EXIST , WE ARE STILL UNDER THE DEFAULT. WE CAN PROCEED WITH THE DEFAULT. YOU CAN PROCEED WITH THE SECOND AMENDMENT , SHOULD YOU DESIRE TO ENTER INTO THAT SECOND AMENDMENT. IF THERE ARE ANY TERMS YOU WANT CHANGED, WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND WE CAN MAKE CHANGES AND VOTE ON IT LATER SO IT IS UP TO THE COMMISSION HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED AT THIS POINT. >> QUESTIONS FOR MS. HEDGES? >> I AM IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENTS WITH A FEW CONVERSATION PIECES BEFORE WE LET THEM COME UP AND SPEAK AND I SAY THIS BECAUSE WE ARE IN AN ELECTION YEAR AND IN AN ELECTION CYCLE. ME , BEING THE ONE MEMBER THAT IS 100% NOT GOING TO BE HERE , I STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT THE TEAM LOOK AT THE 180 DAY REQUEST BECAUSE WE HAVE ALREADY EXTENDED 45 AND NOW WE ARE MOVING INTO A 90 DAY DUE DILIGENCE THAT YOU STRONGLY LOOK AT THAT. THIS BODY AND THE TEAM. MAKE SURE THAT APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL'S OR MORE CONVERSATION OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE HAPPEN IN THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER BY THE -- BEFORE THE FIRST MEETING IN DECEMBER . THAT IS WHEN I WILL BE HERE IN THIS SEAT. WHEN YOU HAVE CHANGES IN THIS SEAT, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN SO I WANTED THAT OUT IN THE PUBLIC FOR DISCUSSION BECAUSE YOU KNOW HOW THINGS HAPPEN AND WE ALL KNOW THE POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH WE LIVE . >> DO YOU HAVE A CONCERN WITH THE 180 DAYS? >> I DO. IT SHOULD BE 90 . >> 90 DAYS DO CLOSE? >> WHATEVER THAT TIMEFRAME IS BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIAL CHANGES IN THE MONTH OF DECEMBER . SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT FORWARD. THERE IS GOING TO BE ONE CHANGE FOR SURE. IT IS GOING TO BE THIS CHAIR. THAT IS WHY I'VE STATED I AM OKAY WITH THE AMENDMENT. I AM APPRECIATIVE OF HOW THE TEAM HAS WORKED DILIGENTLY ON GETTING THE , YOU KNOW, AMENDMENT TOGETHER, LOOKING AT THE ELEMENTS OF THE CONTRACT, OR THE AGREEMENT AND , YOU KNOW, PUTTING TOGETHER TIMEFRAME STATING, YOU KNOW, THE PARAMETERS OF THE TIMEFRAME. ALONG WITH ANY CONSTRUCTION CHART . SO -- AND A TIMELINE. SO, THAT IS MY INITIAL CONVERSATION. WE CAN ASK ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS WHEN THEY COME UP. YOU KNOW, WE EXTENDED IT BEFORE. IN MY MIND , I'VE ALREADY STARTED DOING CALCULATIONS SO WHEN I STARTED THIS OVER 45 DAYS AGO, IN MY MIND , I HAD ALREADY MOVED INTO THAT WORLD OF 135 DAYS, YOU KNOW, 90 PLUS OF THE 45 , SO THAT IS JUST WHERE I WAS. I'VE GOT SOME MORE QUESTIONS FOR THEM. >> TECHNICALLY THAT IS WHERE WE WERE. THE LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED THIS, IT WAS 45 PLUS 90. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION , COMMENTS, QUESTIONS OF MS. HEDGES BEFORE WE -- >> MS. HEDGES, I DID HAVE ANOTHER ONE. IF I COULD -- WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE AGREEMENT -- [02:10:02] I AM LOOKING AT THE WRONG ONE. SORRY. LET'S GO TO THE PHASE ONE DESCRIPTIONS. IT WAS VERY -- IT WAS NOT AS CONCISE AND COMPLETE AS THE OTHER PHASES. IS THERE ANY REASON IN THE AMENDMENT TO COVER THOSE AREAS OR NOT? IT SEEMED TO GO ALONG MORE WITH THE CHART AND IN PART B AND C AND NOT A. >> COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON? ARE YOU REFERRING TO 3A? >> YES, 3A. >> THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN MET SO THE ONLY ONE THAT NEEDS TO BE ALTERED FOR PHASE ONE IS CONSTRUCTION. >> OKAY, EXCEPT FOR THE CITY'S PARAMETERS AND THE CITY'S ENGAGEMENT WITH VERTICAL AND SITE PLAN DE CPR AND PERMITTING. THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE -- NOT ENOUGH FOR THE DEVELOPER BUT FOR THE CITY AND THE CITY DEVELOPMENT TEAM, WHETHER IT BE THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, BUILDING DEPARTMENT. ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT REVIEW DPCR BECAUSE IF WE HAVE SPECIFIC TIMELINES IDENTIFIED AND WE HOLD OURSELVES TO THE PARAMETERS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE JOB DONE. THAT BECOMES THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. I KNOW STAFF WILL LISTEN. SPECIFICALLY PLANNING WILL BE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE WITH US AND JACK IS HERE FROM ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS AND ALL OF THE OTHER GROUPS. YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK IT'S NICE TO MEMORIALIZE THAT , BUT MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE TO. YOU KNOW, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SITE WORK DPCR IN 2025. YOU KNOW, 13 MONTHS FROM TODAY. ACCORDING TO THE GANTT CHART. I KNOW THAT IS WITH THE HOTEL, BUT -- >> YES, SIR. >> IT IS STILL A BOX TO CHECK. I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED -- DO YOU FEEL WE DON'T NEED TO INCLUDE THOSE? I KNOW WE HAVE CHECKED THEM A BIT . DO YOU SEE WHERE I AM GOING? >> YES, SIR. I SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING. WE DID INCLUDE LANGUAGE WHERE IS ANY OF THE TIME FRAMES WITHIN THE GANTT CHART ARE NOT MET, THAT WOULD BE A BREACH SO I THINK THAT WOULD RESULT YOUR CONCERN RELATED TO PHASE ONE BECAUSE THERE IS A BREAKDOWN SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO SITE WORK DPCR APPROVAL HAS TO START BY 9/10 SO THEY HAVE TO APPLY BY 9-10 AND FINALIZED BY 20 /30 / 25. THERE IS THE BREAKDOWN IN THE GANTT CHART THEY ARE TIED TO. >> I DID NOT SEE THAT PARAGRAPH IN SECTION THREE. IS THAT THE ONE YOU ARE REFERRING TO? >> YES, SIR. >> I WILL JUST PREFACE THE QUESTION BECAUSE I WANT TO ASK THE TEAM WHAT WE CAN DO TO ACCELERATE THAT SITE WORK DPCR. DIFFERENT ANIMAL IN THE WORLD OF ENGINEERING AND SITE PLAN APPLICATION. OR SITE WORK APPLICATION. MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ACCELERATED THERE. IT IS RADICAL WORK THAT TAKES A LOT OF TIME, SPACE, AND EFFORT AND IT'S HARD TO BUILD VERTICAL IF YOU DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW -- >> WITHOUT THE APPROVAL, NUMBER ONE BUT WITHOUT INFRASTRUCTURE BEING ACTIVELY CONSTRUCTED, SO. >> YES, SIR. UNDERSTOOD. >> I WILL ASK THE TEAM. >> ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR STATEMENTS OF MS. HEDGES? I BELIEVE IT IS TIME FOR AUDUBON'S REPRESENTATIVE , IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO SHARE ANYTHING WITH US. IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE, SIR. >> GOOD MORNING, MADAME MAYOR. SCOTT HAWKINS AND BILL WHERE FROM HARBERT, AND MR. RAY FROM AUDUBON . SO, TO COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON'S QUESTIONS, ANY VARIANTS IN TERMS OF PERFORMANCE WOULD REPRESENT A BREACH THEY THINK IT IS ENCOMPASSED IN THE KOREAN LANGUAGE UNDER PARTICULARLY PARAGRAPH THREE OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT. I DO ALSO WANT TO CLARIFY HARBERT DOES HAVE A DIRECT ROLE . I BELIEVE ATTORNEY HEDGES . IT'S BETWEEN HARBERT AND TO BE CLEAR, HARBERT WILL BE THE MAJORITY PARTNER IN THE JOINT VENTURE AS NOTED BY ATTORNEY HEDGES AND COMMISSIONER BRODERICK . THE 180 DAY PERIOD , TO BE CLEAR, RELATES TO BOTH THE DILIGENCE [02:15:04] AND COMPLETION OF THE JOINT VENTURE AND ANY FURTHER AMENDMENT THAT MAY BE NECESSITATED AS THE SITE PLAN -- I THINK MR. WHERE CAN SPEAK TO THAT. I DO WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR I THINK IT IS HIGHLY, HIGHLY, HIGHLY LIKELY THIS JOINT VENTURE COMES TO FRUITION. WE ARE JUST NOT IN A POSITION TO SAY IT IS A GUARANTY AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT WITH MY JOB, I CANNOT GUARANTEE THINGS, BUT I HIGHLY, HIGHLY, HIGHLY LIKELY. AND I WOULD EMPHASIZE IN THE LAST 60 DAYS OF NOT LONGER, HARBERT HAS INVESTED A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME AND MONEY TO RECOGNIZE A RETURN ON INVESTMENT, THIS PROCESS HAS TO SUCCEED SO IT HAS TO BE FORMED. I THINK THE ODDS ARE EXTREMELY HIGH AND I WOULD OBSERVE AS AN ECONOMIST MARKET CONDITIONS CAN BE IMPROVING IN TERMS OF INTEREST RATES WHICH MAY BE VERY HELPFUL FOR THIS PROJECT'S SUCCESS. THAT IS WHAT I HOPE FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT TEAM . QUESTIONS ON THE 180 DAYS AND THE JOINT VENTURE, I WOULD LIKE MR. WARE TO ADDRESS. I APPRECIATE THE TIME YOU HAVE SPENT WITH HIM AND MR. MADISON, WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR COURTESIES AND IT'S GREAT TO WORK WITH CITY ATTORNEY HEDGES. >> MR. WARE? >> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS . IT IS GREAT TO SEE YOU AGAIN . I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW UP WITH THE COMMENT ABOUT Y'ALL'S MEETINGS WITH ME. I WOULD LIKE TO PUBLICLY STATE THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE VERY MUCH YOUR TIME , YOUR INTEREST , AND COURTESIES EXTENDED BY EACH ONE OF YOU IN OUR RESPECTIVE MEETINGS. I THINK THE MEETINGS WERE OPEN, HONEST, TRANSPARENT , AND PRODUCTIVE AND I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT AS A RESULT OF TODAY, WE CAN CONTINUE THAT RELATIONSHIP DOWN THE ROAD. HAVING SAID THAT , I WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND INTEREST AND THE A COURTESY IS EXTENDED. AS A PART OF MY DISCUSSIONS WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU IN THE ESSENCE OF TRANSPARENCY AND AGREEING TO THINGS THAT I FEEL CONFIDENT IN AND THOSE I DON'T FEEL CONFIDENT IN, 180 DAYS IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF THAT AND THE FIRST 90 DAYS, THE DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD , I HAVE DONE MY RESEARCH AND THE 90 DAYS START ANOTHER LEVEL OF DUE DILIGENCE . I ENGAGE THIRD PARTY CONSULTANTS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE ITEMS I HAVE IDENTIFIED AS AREAS WE SHOULD LOOK AT . CHANGE, MAYBE. REQUEST A CHANGE, MAYBE. MAYBE NOT. THAT FIRST 90 DAYS IS TO EFFECTIVELY VALIDATE OR NOT AS THE CASE MAY BE WHERE MY THOUGHTS AND IDEAS ARE ON, FOR EXAMPLE, THE SITE PLAN. CERTAIN THINGS ON THE SITE PLAN. IF THERE IS A CHANGE, THAT MEANS WE NEED TO RESUBMIT TO THE CITY FOR THEIR REVIEW, FOR YOUR REVIEW AND THERE ARE GOING TO BE TWEAKS ALONG THAT PATH AND HOPEFULLY AT THE END OF THE DAY WE WILL COME TO A MEETING ON THE MINDS OF WHAT THAT CHANGE ULTIMATELY LOOKS LIKE. THAT CLOCK STARTS AFTER THE 90 DAYS. I CANNOT SPEAK FOR THE CITY AND WOULD NEVER TRY TO SPEAK FOR THE CITY BUT THE SECOND 90 DAYS ON OUR FINALIZING OUR JOINT PARTNERSHIP, I HAVE A HIGH LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE IN. I AM PRAYING THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH WHATEVER THOSE NEW CHANGES MAY BE THROUGH PROCESS STAND APPROVED WITHIN THAT SAME 90 DAY PERIOD. I DO NOT KNOW IF THAT SHEDS ANY LIGHT, COMMISSIONER , ON YOUR INTEREST OR YOUR THOUGHT AND I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT YOU BROUGHT TO LIGHT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE HERE AFTER NOVEMBER, I GUESS. OR DECEMBER. BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THINK Y'ALL'S DECISIONS AND APPROVALS WHILE YOU ARE HERE WILL CERTAINLY CARRY FORWARD WITH A PERSON THAT TAKES YOUR PLACE ON THAT SEAT. I DO NOT KNOW HOW ELSE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. >> I UNDERSTAND YOU TO SAY -- WERE YOU SAYING THE FIRST 90 DAYS COULD BE -- THE SECOND 90 DAYS COULD BE PART OF THAT [02:20:01] FIRST 90 DAYS IF THAT WENT WELL? THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT? >> THE SECOND 90 DAYS WOULD BE SUFFICIENT AS STATED TO FORMALIZE OUR JOINT VENTURE AGREEMENT , MEMORIALIZE IT , IF YOU WILL. I AM PRAYING THE SECOND 90 DAYS IS SUFFICIENT TIME FOR US TO GET THERE ANY CHANGES THAT MAY BE REQUESTED ON THE PROJECT ITSELF IN TERMS OF SITE PLANS AND WHATNOT THROUGH THIS PROCESS. >> I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. >> MR. WARE, YOU DID RAISE WHAT COULD BE A CONCERN TO YOU FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE. I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU TO SAY TWEAKS TO THE SITE PLAN WOULD TRIGGER RESUBMISSION WHICH COULD FURTHER PUSH THAT OUT FURTHER. GO IN AND GO BACK OUT . IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES, SIR. >> DESPITE SITE CHANGES, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE IN YOUR MIND WITH THIS PROJECT? AS I READ IT , AND COMMISSIONER GAINES HAS POINTED THIS OUT EARLY ON , THE ATTENTION IS TO FORM THIS AND I THINK I HAVE ASKED BEFORE , IT IS KIND OF LIKE , YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ARE DATING AND CHECKING EACH OTHER OUT BUT AT SOME POINT THIS DECISION HAS TO BE FINALIZED , RIGHT? YOU HAVE BEEN PRIVILEGED TO THAT CONVERSATION AND WE HAVE NOT. OUR ONLY CONVERSATION HAS BEEN BETWEEN YOU AND OUR MEETING AND I NEED TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THIS VOTE IS ABOUT PUBLIC TRUST. AND THE PUBLIC TRUST IS AT STAKE HERE. NOW YOU ARE EXTENDING SOMETHING WITH THE HOPES AND PRAYERS AND HIGH-END ENGINES THAT IT MAY GO THROUGH BUT THERE COULD BE OTHER THINGS THAT COULD DERAIL THIS AND THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF BECAUSE IF I'M GOING TO CAST A VOTE, RIGHT NOW I CAN TELL YOU I AM CONCERNED MOVING THIS OUT 2 1/2 YEARS . WHEN WE HAD OUR CONVERSATION, YOU WERE BROUGHT TO US, I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY TO ACCELERATE THIS THING AND MOVE THIS ALONG AND GET IT GOING WITH WHATEVER PARTNERS, ET CETERA. I KNOW IT TAKES TIME BUT WE ARE TALKING TO AND A HALF, 3 1/2 YEARS PUSHED OUT NOW SO IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE BESIDES THE MAJOR SITE PLANS OR WHAT YOU MAY HAVE IDENTIFIED AS SITE PLANS THAT COULD CONCERN YOU? YOU DID MENTION THERE ARE THINGS IN THE SITE PLAN . COULD YOU ELABORATE ON THAT A LITTLE BIT? >> SURE. THESE ARE JUST AREAS I WOULD LIKE THE PROFESSIONALS WE WOULD ENGAGE TO LOOK AT. ONE IS PARKING . I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF SPACES. I THINK WE TALKED IN ALL OF OUR MEETINGS THAT THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF A PARTNERSHIP IF YOU WILL WITH THE EXISTING CITY PARKING GARAGE. SET THAT ASIDE , I STILL THINK THERE IS A WAY AND MEANS TO CREATE MORE PARKING ON THE SITE WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE SITE PLAN . THAT IS ONE . >> OKAY. >> TWO , BUILDINGS A AND B WHICH IN THE AGREEMENT CURRENTLY ARE SCHEDULED TO BE DONE LAST IN PHASE THREE , AGAIN, BECAUSE THOSE BUILDINGS ARE RELATIVELY SMALL BY COMPARISON AND EVERYTHING ELSE , IT IS LOOKING AT THAT WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND SEEING IF WE CAN'T COMBINE THOSE TWO BUILDINGS INTO ONE AND CREATE ADDITIONAL SURFACE PARKING WEAR THAT ONE BUILDING CURRENTLY SETS. WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT TRAFFIC FLOW AND OTHER THINGS. AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE A CHANGE. IN TALKING TO MY PARKING GARAGE CONSULTANT , YOU KNOW, WE MAY REQUEST AN EXTENSION OF -- AND I'M NOT SURE IF IT IS PLANNED OR NOT, BUT WE MAY HAVE TO MOVE THE GARAGE LINE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER BY 6 OR 7 FEET . I KNOW IT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE MUCH, BUT WITH THE DESIGN OF A PARKING GARAGE, IT MAY MEAN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A REALLY EFFICIENT GARAGE AND REALLY INEFFICIENT GARAGE. SO , THAT ALSO IS BEING LOOKED AT. I ALSO MENTIONED TO YOU THE POSSIBILITIES OF ADDING TO THE CURRENT PARKING GARAGE. AGAIN, WE THINK THAT POTENTIALLY WE CAN CREATE AN EFFICIENT GARAGE THAT MAY BE ABLE TO ENCAPSULATE AN ADDITIONAL FLOOR OR TWO . THESE ARE MATERIAL ITEMS BUT AS [02:25:02] I SAID , THE THIRD-PARTY CONSULTANTS WOULD REALLY HAVE TO HONE IN ON WHERE WE ARE , IF IT'S POSSIBLE OR NOT, WHAT IMPACT , IF ANY, IT HAS. SALON AND SO FORTH. THAT IS WHERE THE SECOND 90 DAYS IF YOU WILL BECOMES SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT IS REALLY THE STUDY TIME FOR THAT ACTIVITY . >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. THAT REALLY HELPS. YOU ARE GOING IN WITH THE CONSULTANTS SO YOU'RE PROBABLY BUSY WITH OTHER PROJECTS AND YOU ARE HOPING TO GET THAT DONE WITHIN THAT WINDOW. RIGHT. UNDERSTOOD. ANY RESERVATION THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MEET THAT IN THAT PARTICULAR SCOPE OF TIME? MEETING HAVE YOU TIPPED THEM OFF TO SAY THIS COULD BE A POSSIBILITY ? >> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. I BELIEVE , AGAIN, NOT HAVING BEEN THROUGH THE CITY'S PROCESS YET , I REALLY DO NOT KNOW HOW THAT WORKS IN TERMS OF TIMING BUT I PLAN TO MEET WITH THE APPROPRIATE PEOPLE AS QUICKLY AS I CAN ASSUMING THIS PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD. I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT. YOU ASKED ME A QUESTION. >> YOUR CONFIDENCE LEVEL. I GET IT. IT IS FURTHER ALONG FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND, BUT GO AHEAD. >> I THINK WE CAN ACCOMPLISH OUR GOALS WITHIN THE FIRST 90 DAYS . HAVING NOT BEEN THREE YOUR PROCESS YET, WE CAN MEET THE SECOND 90 DAY PERIOD I KNOW IT IS A BULLET POINT AND AN OBLIGATION SO I WOULD IMPRESS UPON EVERYBODY TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT IS AN OBLIGATION SO EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, GOVERNS THEMSELVES ACCORDINGLY. >> OKAY . WHAT I HEARD -- LET ME JUST ENCAPSULATE. FROM YOUR PROFESSIONAL STANDPOINT , AND WE ASKED YOU TO COME IN WITH THIS, THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED AND IT COULD BE FROM WHAT WE THINK MINOR, BUT IT COULD BE MAJOR BECAUSE WHEN I START HEARING ABOUT EFFICIENCY OF HOW PEOPLE MOVE ABOUT A GARAGE, YOU KNOW, ADDING LEVELS, I KNOW FOR A FACT WHEN YOU ADD A FLOOR, YOU CAN ALMOST COUNT $1 MILLION INTO THAT ON A PARKING GARAGE. JUST MY BASIC UNDERSTANDING. I WILL LET THESE GUYS TELL ME MORE BUT I KNOW IT COSTS MORE MONEY. A LOT MORE MONEY. THAT , I KNOW. THAT IS IN MY MIND , RIGHT? I'M ALWAYS CALCULATING THAT TO SOME POINT HERE. OKAY . THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK? >> SORRY , MAYOR. MR. FREEMAN DID SPEAK TO ME DURING THIS DISCUSSION AND HE SAID REALISTICALLY IF WE ARE THINKING SITE PLAN AMENDMENTS, IT IS A SIX-MONTH PROCESS. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR MR. WARE AND POSSIBLY MR. HAWKINS IF HE WANTS TO ANSWER THIS IS WHETHER THE JOINT VENTURE PARTNERSHIP CAN BE FINALIZED WITHOUT THOSE SITE PLAN AMENDMENTS. IS THERE SOME REASON THIS LLC CANNOT BE ENTERED PRIOR TO ANY AMENDMENTS OCCURRING? >> I AM PROCESSING . >> HE IS THINKING ABOUT IT. >> I KNOW THAT MR. HARBERT -- NOT MR. HARBERT. MR. WARE REPORTS TO MR. WILLIAMS . I SUSPECT HE IS NOT IN A POSITION TO SAY FOR SURE WE CAN DO THAT BEFORE THE AMENDMENT PROCESS THAT WAS JUST DISCUSSED GETS WORKED OUT. I SIMPLY DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. I HAVE WONDERED -- I WILL JUST SAY THIS, WHETHER GIVEN THE ENORMITY AND COMPLEXITY OF THIS PROJECT -- PLEASE DO NOT BE OFFENDED -- WHETHER A DIFFERENT APPROACH SHOULD BE CONSIDERED BY THE CITY REGARDING YOUR REVIEW OF REQUESTS. I AM HAPPY TO TALK WITH YOU OFF-LINE ABOUT THAT, BUT WE SEE THIS WITH OTHER GOVERNMENTAL BODIES. THIS IS SO COMPLEX, MAYBE YOU WANT TO CONSIDER SOME SORT OF A TASK FORCE APPROACH WHERE THE TIMELINES CAN BE SHORTENED. THIS WOULD BENEFIT POTENTIALLY EVERYONE. I WILL LEAVE THAT WITH YOU FOR FURTHER THOUGHT. BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE TRANSFORMATIONAL AND VERY COMPLEX . JUST ADDING A PARKING STRUCTURE AND A FLOOR , COMMISSIONER JOHNSON IS CORRECT. PROBABLY NEEDED . VERY EXPENSIVE. IT IS COMPLICATED, SO -- >> THERE WAS A QUESTION RELATED TO THE PARKING GARAGE . WHERE IS THAT CURRENTLY ON YOUR SITE PLAN? I BELIEVE MR. CURTIS JOHNSON ASKED THAT QUESTION. >> IT IS IN PHASE TWO. >> WHERE EXACTLY WITHIN THE STRUCTURE -- THE PLAN ? >> IT IS ON THE SOUTH. IT IS [02:30:08] WHATEVER AVENUE . >> SOUTHWEST CORNER. >> MORE IN THE CENTER, I BELIEVE. >> MR. WARE, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? >> IF I MAKE. I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID. I HAVE A CEO AND A COMPANY THAT I WORK FOR AND WITH, SO DECISIONS LIKE THAT ARE NOT IN MY HANDS, BUT IN THEIR S. BUT ONE CONSIDERATION MAY BE IN TERMS OF A COMPROMISE, IF YOU WILL, IS AT THE END OF THE SECOND 90 DAYS, WE WOULD HAVE OUR JOINT VENTURE STRUCTURED SUBJECT ONLY TO THAT ONE ITEM SO THAT THE ONLY GUESSWORK LIES IN THAT SITE PLAN AND WE ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, GET TO AT THE END OF THE DAY. EVERYTHING OTHER THAN THAT -- THAT WE WOULD ENTER INTO OUR JOINT VENTURE AGREEMENT WITH JUST THAT ONE CONTINGENCY, IF YOU WILL. AND I APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP AND CLARIFYING BECAUSE THAT WILL EXPEDITE WHAT WE ARE DOING TODAY, SO THANK YOU. ANYWAY, THAT IS A THOUGHT. WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT. WE WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT. WE LOOK AT THIS PROJECT LIKE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY. BECAUSE IT TRULY IS . IT IS IMPACTFUL . IT WILL BE AN ICONIC PROJECT. IT WILL, I THINK, TAKE FORT PIERCE TO THE NEXT LEVEL IN A LOT OF AREAS. WE ARE PROUD AND HONORED AND PRIVILEGED TO BE PART POSSIBLY OF HELPING YOU CREATE THAT VISION AND MAKING IT HAPPEN. I THANK THE GOOD LORD FOR COMING YOU KNOW, THE HOLY SPIRIT LETTING ME CALL DALE AND I WILL SPEAK TO THAT IN A MOMENT. I THINK THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY. I REACHED OUT TO DALE . THE TIMING WAS NOT GOOD TWO YEARS AGO. TIMING IS GOOD NOW. AGAIN, IN CASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW, MAINSAIL BROUGHT ME HERE TO BEGIN WITH. THEY ARE BASED IN TAMPA. I AM FROM TAMPA. I HAVE KNOWN THEM FOR SOME TIME, SO MAINSAIL BROUGHT ME HERE. WE LOST TWO YEARS IN TERMS OF THE TIMEFRAME ON THE SCHEDULE . NOT BY ANYONE'S FAULT, JUST THIS IS WHERE WE ARE STARTING FROM. NOTWITHSTANDING WHERE WE WERE. I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO ADDRESS THAT. SO, ANYWAY, I SAY ALL OF THAT JUST TO SAY -- AS I SAY IN ALL OF OUR MEETINGS, I WON'T AGREE TO SOMETHING I BELIEVE I CANNOT DELIVER. I'M JUST NOT GOING TO DO THAT. AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE TO, I AM NOT. TO THE EXTENT WE CAN FIND A COMPROMISE TO, YOU KNOW, GIVE EVERYBODY COMFORT AS BEST WE CAN ON THOSE MILESTONES OR TIME FRAMES WITH SPECIFIC CONTINGENCIES THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE ARE IN. I WOULD HOPE IT WOULD BE SOMETHING Y'ALL WOULD CONSIDER. >> MR. BRODERICK , YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING EARLIER? >> COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS. FIRST OFF, WE'VE GOT THE 180 DAY TIMELINE AND DUE DILIGENCE 90 DAY SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS AND TENTATIVE CLOSING, ET CETERA. I AGREE WITH DIRECTOR FREEMAN IN THAT THE SO PLANNING TO PERMIT HAS TO GO TO THE TRC PLANNING BOARD, CITY COMMISSION . YOU WILL NOT GET THAT DONE IN 90 DAYS. YOU WILL JUST NOT . THERE WILL BE AN OUTSIDE TIMING ON THAT . I AM NOT AS CONCERNED. I DO NOT THINK I HAS AS MUCH CONCERN AS OTHER COMMISSIONERS RELATIVE TO THE CONTINGENCY IN THE AGREEMENT RELATIVE TO SITE PLAN APPROVAL. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF THE COMMISSION DOESN'T LIKE THE SITE PLAN, WE WILL HAMMER IT OUT WITH YOU AND COME UP WITH AN AGREEMENT. I HAVE SAID THIS ABOUT THE PROJECT DAY ONE GOING BACK YEARS AGO . I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT THOSE MODIFICATIONS MIGHT BE. SECONDLY, I WOULD LIKE CLARIFICATION ON THE HOTEL ISSUE. I HEARD WHAT THE ATTORNEY SAID. I HAVE HEARD WHAT MS. HEDGES HAS SAID AND I GUESS I'M LOST HERE. WHO IS IN ON THE HOTEL DEAL ? >> SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION. IT WAS NOT INTENDED TO BE CONFUSING. >> I GET CONFUSED EASILY . >> SPEAKS TO ALL THREE PARTIES. MAINSAIL , THE HOTEL AS IT IS [02:35:05] SET ASIDE, AND AUDUBON . AND HARBERT . ON EVERYTHING ELSE , EXCEPT FOR THE BILLS . I HOPE YOU KNOW WE ARE NOT INVOLVED IN THE VILLE. THAT IS SEPARATE. THAT IS NOT IN OUR AGREEMENT WITH DALE. THE REASON WHY IT IS SEPARATED IS BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES. THERE WILL BE AN ENTITY SET UP THAT WILL LOAN THE MASTER PROJECT AND A SEPARATE ENTITY THAT IS FORMED TO OWN THE HOTEL . HARBERT IS IN BOTH. AUDUBON , DALE, IS IN BOTH BY WAY OF LAND CONTRIBUTION . HARBERT IS A GP, GENERAL PARTNER , IN BOTH. AUDUBON IS NOT. SO, THE REASON WHY IT WAS A LITTLE -- I GUESS I COULD HAVE TRIED TO INDOCTRINATE THAT INTO IT , BUT I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE MORE CONFUSING. THERE IS A SEPARATE MOU THAT HAS BEEN SIGNED BY BOTH MAINSAIL AND HARBERT FOR THAT ENTITY, BUT FROM HARBERT'S STANDPOINT , IT IS ONE BIG PROJECT WITH DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF THAT PROJECT. I HOPE THAT HELPS. >> IT DOES. >> I WAS GOING TO ASK, MR. WARE, CAN YOU SEND US THAT MOU? >> ABSOLUTELY . >> WE HAVE NOT SEEN THAT AND I THINK THAT IS PART OF THE CONFUSION. IF WE WERE TO ADOPT THE SECOND AMENDMENT, PART OF THE SALIENT TERMS IS THAT MOU THOUGHT MIGHT BE PREMATURE TO ADOPT THIS WITHOUT HAVING SEEN THAT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT MOU ENTAILS. >> IF I MAY, I CAN PRODUCE THAT NOW AND DISTRIBUTE IT . >> OKAY. >> AGAIN, IT IS A RELATIVELY SIMPLE DOCUMENT SO TO SPEAK. IN THE ESSENCE OF TRYING TO FURTHER THIS ALONG , IF THAT HELPS. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> IT IS CONFIDENTIAL. >> WELL, I AM TALKING ABOUT THE MOU AND I HAVE CONFIRMED THAT WITH MAINSAIL. IF YOU WILL EXCUSE ME FOR JUST A SECOND? >> WE WILL EXCUSE YOU . >> IT SEEMS TO ME THAT DOCUMENT COULD BECOME PART OF EXHIBIT A OR IDENTIFIED SEPARATELY AS EXHIBIT C. >> IT IS KIND OF EXHIBIT A TO EXHIBIT A. >> >> MAYBE A1. >> IT REFERENCES THE MOU SPECIFICALLY? >> CORRECT. >> IT IS THE SAME FORMAT . >> WHILE THE ATTORNEY IS REVIEWING IT, I HAVE TO ASK THIS QUESTION TO MAKE SURE I AM STRAIGHT . I AM SIMPLISTIC. YOU ARE TELLING ME THE PARKING GARAGES COMING IN PHASE TWO. >> CORRECT. >> BUT THE HOTEL IS PHASE ONE. >> CORRECT.'S PERIOD SO YOU WILL HAVE A HOTEL WITH NO PARKING. >> CORRECT . >> THAT IS WHAT I THOUGHT SITTING HERE. >> HOWEVER -- I MEAN, YOU ARE RIGHT. >> I AM LOOKING AT IT AND THAT PHASE IS NOT COMING UNTIL ALMOST A YEAR LATER. >> THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE LOOKING AT. THE CONDO BUILDING ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER RIGHT NEXT TO THE HOTEL -- >> OKAY. >> -- IS IN PHASE TWO. ONE OF OUR THOUGHTS, AGAIN, DURING THE INTERIM TIME IS TO NOT BUILD THAT BUILDING AND SAVE THAT FOR PHASE THREE. WHILE WE BUILD THE PARKING GARAGE IN PHASE TWO. THAT , COMBINED WITH THE OTHER OPTION THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT ON THE WEST SIDE OF COMBINING THOSE TWO BUILDINGS TO CREATE ADDITIONAL SURFACE PARKING THERE , SO WE ARE TRYING TO OFFSET THAT BY DOING THOSE TWO THINGS. AND OR A DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY ABOUT THEIR PARKING GARAGE. ABOUT Y'ALL'S PARKING GARAGE AND IF THAT IS POSSIBLE . >> I GET IT FROM AN EFFICIENT STANDPOINT THAT DOES NOT WORK WELL WITH ME. I CANNOT SEE , EVEN IF YOU HAD VALLEY TRYING TO MOVE CARS. THAT IS JUST INEFFICIENT TO ME. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A BLOCK AND A [02:40:01] HALF AWAY. AND TO ASK A PERSON TO PARK, COME, UNLOAD, PARK AND MOVE DOWN HERE, THAT IS NOT SITTING WELL WITH ME. I AM NO CONSTRUCTION GUY , BUT THAT IS NOT EFFICIENT WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT AND HOW THINGS MOVE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A SOCIETY THAT DEMANDS THINGS, RIGHT? THERE IS NO WAY YOU WILL DO THAT AND PARKED HALFWAY DOWN THE BLOCK AND WALK BACK TO YOUR CAR. >> IF I MAKE JUST TO THAT POINT AGAIN, OUR INTENT AND OUR HOPE IS TO CREATE ON-SITE PARKING DURING THE INTERIM UNTIL THE PARKING GARAGE IS BUILT. >> OKAY. >> JUST BY WAY OF CLARIFICATION AS I UNDERSTAND IT , AND I AM NOT THE OPERATOR OF THE HOTEL, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY WOULD VALET, MEANING THE VALET FOLKS WOULD DRIVE THEIR CAR. THE PEOPLE, THEMSELVES, WOULD NOT BE TRAVELING THE DISTANCE. JUST THE VALET COMPANY . >> I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A COST TO THAT. >> THAT IS FACTORED INTO HOTEL OPERATIONS, CORRECT. >> THANK YOU, MR. WARE. I'VE GOT A FEW COMMENTS. LOOKING AT THE GANT CHART SPECIFICALLY I WAS DIVING IN OVER THE WEEKEND BECAUSE OF THAT EXACT ISSUE . SURFACE LEVEL PARKING IS A CONSIDERATION WITHOUT A DOUBT. VALET SERVICE CONSIDERATION BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE DESIGN TIME FRAMES AND YOU CAN CONFIRM THIS, SIR, THEY ARE PARALLEL. DESIGN OF PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO, IT IS IN PARALLEL. A LOT MORE VERTICAL AND STRUCTURAL DETAIL. NOW YOU'VE GOT TO GO TO THE VERY END OR THE BACK OR THE START OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO START, BUT AT THE END OF CONSTRUCTION FOR THE PHASE ONE HOTEL SPECIFICALLY IS -- LET'S SEE . INFRASTRUCTURE AND -- INFRASTRUCTURE, 2027. CONSIDERATION TO ME MAYBE SOME UNDERGROUND SURFACE LEVEL BUT CONSTRUCTION FOR PHASE ONE, 7 /28 . OKAY, SO AFTER ABOUT PHASE TWO , PARKING. WHEN DOES THAT GET TO A COMPLETION DATE? MAY OF 2029 . YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A 10 MONTH WINDOW OF OVERLAP OF I AM JUST GOING TO SAY INCONVENIENCE , RIGHT? THAT WAS MY INITIAL ANALYSIS AND I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU TODAY. DO I HAVE THAT ACCURATELY? >> THAT IS CORRECT . >> THAT IS A CONSIDERATION OF MY TOO HERE IT IS GOING TO BE CHALLENGING WITH THE SITE AND LAYOUT AND INFRASTRUCTURE. NOT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY. >> CORRECT . AND QUITE FRANKLY AS THE CITY KNOWS, WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE CITY TO CREATE A CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE PLAN THAT WILL HELP US NAVIGATE THROUGH THAT TRAFFIC FOR THE PUBLIC. THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF THINGS WE NEED TO DO ON OUR END WITH YOU WHICH IS WHY I STRESSED I LOOK AT THIS AS A PARTNERSHIP BECAUSE WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS AS SUCCESSFUL AS IT CAN BE. >> RELATIVE TO THE NO EXTENDED TIMEFRAME YOU HAVE ADDED -- WHAT WAS IT, 2 1/2 YEARS ? >> FOR PHASE ONE AND TWO. PHASE THREE IS ABOUT THREE . >> MY INTERPRETATION IS THIS ARRANGEMENT WE ARE LOOKING INTO IN TOTAL IS A RESET . WE ARE LITERALLY STARTING FROM THE BEGINNING AGAIN, JUST MISSING THE THREE TO FOUR YEARS OF MITIGATION IF WE DEFAULT THE AGREEMENT AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS . THAT IS MY FALL BACK ON THIS. IF THIS TRANSACTION IS NOT CONSUMMATED BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM , THE OPTIONS FOR THE CITY OR TO MITIGATE TO THE PROPERTY. I WILL SPECULATE THAT IS A THREE TO FOUR YEAR TIMELINE . WE WILL SIT IN THIS CHAIR HAVING THE EXACT SAME DISCUSSION SUBSEQUENTLY AFTER WE AGAIN WHICH PUTS IT UP FIVE YEARS, MAYBE SIX GETTING INTO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND STARTING CONSTRUCTION. SIX EUROS TO SEVEN WOULD BE MY SPECULATION WITH APPROVALS AND ALL OF THAT. SO I DO NOT THINK I AM AS CONCERNED AS OTHERS MIGHT BE WITH REGARD TO RESETTING THE TIMELINE BECAUSE WE ARE AT A RESET. THIS IS A WHOLE NEW -- IT IS A WHOLE NEW APPROACH TO A VERY PROBLEMATIC SITUATION AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY HERE TO ELIMINATE THREE TO FOUR YEARS OUT OF THIS POTENTIAL PROCESS TO GET THIS PROJECT OFF AND RUNNING. AM I CORRECT IN MY ASSUMPTION THE TIMELINES INCORPORATED IN THIS DOCUMENT THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH, YOU HAD A LOT OF INPUT ON THIS? >> CORRECT . >> ALL RIGHT. THAT'S IT . >> INCLUDING MAINSAIL, [02:45:04] INCIDENTALLY . >> GO AHEAD. >> REAL QUICK , I AM CURIOUS ABOUT SOME PROCEDURAL THINGS HERE. WE WERE HANDED A DOCUMENT THIS MORNING AND MY FIRST QUESTION, MADAM ATTORNEY , DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING DIFFERENT IN THE DOCUMENT YOU PRINTED TO US THIS MORNING THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THE NOTICE FOR THE PUBLIC THAT WENT OUT LAST WEDNESDAY ? >> THIS HAS BEEN UPLOADED TO THE PUBLIC AGENDA THIS MORNING, SO IT IS ON THERE. YES, SIR. >> SECOND QUESTION IS THIS. AS I AM SPEAKING, I AM NOW GETTING HANDED A SECOND DOCUMENT . SO THAT WAS -- AGAIN, WE ARE TALKING IN PUBLIC AGAIN. SECOND DOCUMENT WE ARE REVIEWING BUT HAS IT BEEN UPLOADED TO THE CITY? IS IT DOING WHATEVER? HOW CAN WE ACCEPT SOMETHING TODAY WHEN I KNOW WE ARE NOT IN THE LEGISLATIVE HEARING, BUT HOW CAN WE ACCEPT SOMETHING TODAY THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A PUBLISHED AGENDA OUT IN THE CITY TO REVIEW AND HAVE COMMENTS ON ? I DO NOT KNOW THE RULES. I'M ASKING IF THAT IS PROPER . I WILL GO WITH WHAT YOU TELL ME. >> COMMISSIONERS, WE DID POST THE ITEMS I THINK WE HAVE COMPLIED WITH SUNSHINE. WE HAVE NOTED TO THE PUBLIC THE DISCUSSION WE WILL BE HAVING. IT IS MORE OF A QUESTION FOR YOU IF YOU HAVE A CONCERN WITH HAVING JUST RECEIVED THAT DOCUMENT , I WOULD FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT. WE DO HAVE A MEETING ON THE 19TH SO IF YOU WANT TIME TO DIGEST THIS WE CAN ON THE 19TH TO FURTHER DIGEST. >> THANK YOU, MADAM ATTORNEY . MY LITTLE COMMENT AND THE QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PARTIES. RIGHT? THAT IS MY CONCERN BECAUSE AS I SIT HERE TODAY AND I WILL USE HER WORDS BECAUSE I WILL TELL YOU JUST AND USE YOUR WORDS YOU SAID YOU DID NOT GUARANTEE BECAUSE I KNOW AS LAWYERS WE CAN'T BECAUSE THAT CAN GET US IN TROUBLE SO I APPRECIATE THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE YOU AND I BOTH KNOW WE HAVE BEEN ON OTHER SIDES OF THE TABLE AND WE'VE HEARD LAWYERS SAY I GUARANTEE AND EVERY TIME I HEAR THAT , I CRINGE. YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND LAW SCHOOL, BUT OKAY. I GET THAT AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR ENTHUSIASM ABOUT THE AGREEMENT . I GET IT. I GET IT . BUT AS WE SIT HERE TODAY, WE DON'T HAVE ONE. IT IS A WORKING PROCESS. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CAN GIVE US THIS TODAY AND GIVE US THIS TODAY AND MY LAWYER -- PUT MY LAWYER HAT ON. MY LAWYER INSTINCTS POP-UP BECAUSE YOU ARE SEEING CONCERNS THAT ARE MY CONCERNS. WITH THIS MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING, IT REALLY SHOULD BE A PUBLIC DOCUMENT. YOU GAVE IT TO US AND I AM RELYING ON YOUR EXPERTISE. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW AND I DON'T WANT TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE -- >> MY CONCERNS ARE ABOUT MERIT. >> I AM JUST PUTTING IT ON THE RECORD , SO -- >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DID NOT MAKE A MISTAKE. >> CORRECT. >> I HAVE BEEN INFORMED I AM WRONG . >> THAT'S FINE AND YOU ARE ON THE RECORD SAYING THAT BUT I DON'T WANT THIS TO COME BACK AND BE PART OF THE DELAY WITH HAD YOU NOT ON WITH THIS OR THAT. I HAVE CLEARED IT. BUT I DO HAVE A CONCERN THAT I AM TRYING TO DIGEST THIS NOW. TODAY. AND SO, I WILL LOOK AT IT . I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO READ IT . IT IS HARD TO TRY TO READ AND LISTEN TO QUESTIONS. THE QUESTIONS ARE COMING FROM EVERYBODY, WHICH ARE GOOD QUESTIONS AND LISTENING TO YOUR ANSWERS, TRYING TO PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER , YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID BEFORE , ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT MYSELF AND -- AND I KNOW YOU CAN RELATE TO THIS , YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAYING YOU DID IT ON PURPOSE BUT A LAST-MINUTE DOCUMENT . YOU AND I BOTH KNOW A JUDGE WOULD THROW THIS OUT IF THE OTHER SIDE [02:50:01] STOOD UP AND SAID THEY JUST GAVE IT TO ME THIS MORNING. THE JUDGE WOULD HAVE A FIT ON EITHER SIDE THAT DID IT. I AM TRYING TO -- I AM NOT TRYING TO PUT MY LAWYER HAT ON BUT FOR SOME REASON, IT WON'T COME OFF THIS MORNING. THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO SAY. YOU SAID@. -- IT'S FINE. WHAT I DON'T WANT -- LET ME JUST SAY THIS. WE NEED TO BE VERY , VERY TRANSPARENT TO WHAT WE ARE DOING MOVING FORWARD . I KNOW EVERYBODY IN HERE KNOW THE WORD IS OUT THERE IN THE STREETS. NOT SAYING WE ARE NOT. NOT SAYING WE ARE NOT. BUT TO HAVE A LETTER OR MEMORANDUM GIVEN TO US TODAY AND ASKING US TO REVIEW IT TODAY AND MAKING A VOTE ON IT -- THIS IS CRUCIAL. THIS IS CRUCIAL. WHATEVER THE AGREEMENT THAT THEY ARE GOING TO COME , THIS IS CRUCIAL. AND YOU ARE ASKING US TO DO THAT AND YOU ARE PUTTING ALL OF US -- WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS, GUYS. YOU KNOW, IT'S -- THIS IS TROUBLING TO ME . I UNDERSTAND . I DON'T REALLY GET INTO THE -- HE WILL TELL YOU I DON'T GET INTO THE ENGINEER PARTS OVER HERE. I DON'T GET INTO THE CONSTRUCTION AND COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE . I TRUST YOUR GUYS' JUDGMENT AND EXPERTISE. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, WHEN IT COMES TO THE MARKET IN THE NUMBERS, HE WILL TELL YOU. HE IS A NUMBERS GUY. THESE ARE ENGINEERS. >> WE ALL HAVE PRETTY FACES, I GUESS. >> I HAVE TO USE -- YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO USE WHAT I WAS TRAINED TO USE, MY LEGAL TRAINING TO SAY , DO YOU KNOW WHAT? I'VE GOT TO LOOK AT IT THAT WAY AND TAKE A STEP BACK. I TOLD YOU IN THE MEETING THAT IT TROUBLES ME AND IF WE CAN AVOID IT, LET'S AVOID IT. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. YOU GAVE ME YOUR ANSWER. IT IS NOT CONFIDENTIAL OR WHATEVER BECAUSE ONE THING I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU, I OWE A DUTY TO THE CITY BUT I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF THE FLORIDA BAR AND EVERYTHING I DO SITTING HERE -- YOU KNOW, IF I FELT THIS WAS IMPROPER OR SOMETHING , I COULD BE CALLED UP TO THE FLORIDA BAR . THAT IS WHY I ASK THIS QUESTION AND THAT IS WHY I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE I AM TRYING TO PROTECT EVERYBODY APPEAR AND I DO NOT WANT TO BE ON TV WITH THIS GENTLEMAN STANDING IN FRONT OF TALLAHASSEE. NOT YOU. YOU WILL BE SITTING SOUTH. EVERYONE LAUGHING IN TALLAHASSEE LOOKING AT THEM GOVERNORS ON THE FLORIDA BAR QUESTIONING WHY WE LET THIS GO THROUGH. SO I HAD TO SAY THAT . THAT IS WHY I'M SAYING IT, GUYS. WE'VE GOT TO ANSWER AND WE WILL RELY ON THEIR COUNSEL AND OUR COUNSEL IS TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD. >> JUST TO BE CLEAR, IT IS AN ATTACHMENT TO EXHIBIT B. I WAS WRONG. IT IS NOT A, IT IS B AND I DIDN'T KNOW THIS CANNOT BE DISCLOSED UNTIL JUST NOW . THE MAIN THING IS MAINSAIL IS ON BOARD. >> IT IS DATED JULY 19TH. IT IS DATED JULY 19TH, BUT GO AHEAD, COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON. >> THANK YOU. I ASSUMED BECAUSE IT WAS NOT ATTACHED THAT IT MIGHT BE CONFIDENTIAL. I ASSUMED, SO THANK YOU FOR SUPPLYING ITS. AT THE END OF THE DAY AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PEOPLE, MY QUESTION IS DOES IT REALLY MATTER IF I HAVE THIS DOCUMENT OR NOT? MY AGREEMENT STATES CLEARLY WE ARE TO HAVE A HOTEL IN PHASE ONE. I DON'T CARE HOW YOU GET IT THERE. TELL ME WHAT PRODUCT YOU ARE BRINGING AND BRING IT HERE. THAT IS WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE ASKING FOR. I CARE ABOUT THIS BUT AGAIN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER PORTFOLIO, EDITION, ROOM WITH 140 ROOMS WITH KEYS, I CAN GET THROUGH THE DOOR WHEN IT IS TIME AND THAT IS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, I JUST GAVE YOU PROPS AND SAID I KNEW YOU WOULD SAY THAT BECAUSE THAT IS HOW THESE ENGINEERS THINK. HEY, THIS HOTEL, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE GOT TO DO. AND I GET IT. [02:55:03] IF I MOVE DOWN TO COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON , COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON WILL LOOK AT THESE DOCUMENTS . HE WILL KNOW THE NUMBERS. YOU HEARD HIM SEVERAL TIMES TALKING ABOUT A LAYER OF THE PARKING GARAGE. WHY? NUMBERS ARE GOING THROUGH HIS HEAD TALKING ABOUT DOLLARS AND HOW WE WILL GET A LAYER OF THIS PARKING GARAGE . I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THESE GUYS FOR TWO, THREE YEARS AND I UNDERSTAND. COMMERCIAL BRODERICK 'S COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE . THAT IS HIS THING . HE KNOWS WHAT CAN BE DONE IN 90 DAYS AND THE TURNAROUND AND ALL OF THAT. WE ARE WORKING GOOD TOGETHER. HEY, HOTEL DOING A HOTEL, THERE IT IS . I GET IT BUT I HAD TO SAY WHAT I HAD TO SAY TO CLEAR MY CONSCIOUS AND GO FROM THERE. I CANNOT TELL YOU GUYS AFTER THIS IS OVER WITH, I CANNOT GO OUTSIDE AND SAY , GUYS, SHOULD WE HAVE DONE THIS OR THAT AND MADAM ATTORNEY IS LOOKING AT ME LIKE, OKAY, YOU KNOW YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF SUNSHINE . THIS IS THE ONLY TIME I CAN DO THAT. >> COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON? >> I WILL BE BRIEF IN MY COMMENTS BUT I WANT TO ECHO COMMISSIONER GAINES SPECIFICALLY. I'VE GOT HEARTBURN. THE PET PEEVE THAT I HAVE IS LAST MINUTE STUFF. I DO NOT APPRECIATE GETTING CALLS SUNDAY AFTERNOON FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY TO HAVE A BRIEF ON THIS. IT IS NOT PROFESSIONAL. I DON'T KNOW -- I HAVE ASKED FOR UPDATES. I GET THEM LATE SOMETIMES. I STARTED MY COMMENT OFF BY SAYING I AM UP HERE REPRESENTING THE PUBLIC TRUST OF PEOPLE. AND THE PEOPLE WILL DETERMINE WHAT THE PUBLIC TRUST IS AND LOOKS LIKE. MUCH LIKE MISSIONARY JOHNSON SAID, WE HAVE BEEN TRUSTED TO BRING A HOTEL TOWER CITY. NOW I AM SITTING HERE AND I'VE GOT TO DIGEST THIS SO I'M NOT REAL COMFORTABLE MAKING A VOTE TODAY BECAUSE I DO WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC AGAIN. I CAN WAIT ANOTHER CITY COMMISSION MEETING TO DO THIS. WHICH IS COMING UP IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. YOU HAVE JUST EXTENDED OUT , YOU KNOW, WHEN THE PARKING GARAGE WILL BE DONE, WHEN THE HOTEL WILL BE DONE. IT IS ALL DIFFERENT IN WHAT ORIGINALLY CAME AND WE WAITED 45 DAYS TO HEAR THIS . WE GAVE YOU 45 TO SURE IT AND I WOULD HAVE HOPED WE WOULD HAVE BEEN FURTHER ALONG WITH A LITTLE MORE SOLID GROUND THAN WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED HERE THIS MORNING. I'M ASKED TO SIT HERE AND READ AND DIGEST THIS STUFF WHILE WE ARE TALKING AND BEING ENGAGED IN LEARNING ON THE FLY. I DON'T LIKE IT. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH IT. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH IT. AND SO, WE ARE GOING TO DO BETTER. WE WILL DO BETTER. BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO THIS BY THE PEOPLE THAT ELECTED US TO BE A. TO DEMAND BETTER. >> YES, SIR? >> SO, LET'S GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION AND AS I HAVE UNDERSTOOD IF WE ARE TO VOTE ON ANYTHING TODAY, ONE OF THE THINGS -- DO WE HAVE TO START OFF BY DISCUSSING THE 180 DAYS? HAVE WE ALREADY DECIDED THAT IS NOT REALISTIC? >> SORRY, MADAM MAYOR . AS THE AMENDMENT IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN, IT GIVES AUDUBON 180 DAYS . IF YOU ARE TO VOTE ON HOW IT IS WRITTEN CURRENTLY , IT IS 180 DAYS . IF THAT IS TO BE CHANGED , ALL PARTIES WOULD NEED TO AGREE TO THAT CHANGE. >> AND HAVEN'T WE HEARD TODAY THAT IS NOT REALISTIC? >> I BELIEVE YOU HAVE , YES. >> AND SO I ALSO WANT TO MAKE A CLARIFICATION OF WHAT WAS SAID FROM THE PODIUM. MR. WARE , YOU ARE THE PERSON WE ARE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH FROM NOW ON BECAUSE YOU HAVE AN AGREEMENT THAT SAYS THIS WHOLE PROJECT IS YOURS . >> THAT IS CORRECT. I AM A REPRESENTATIVE FOR HARBERT . YES, MA'AM . >> RIGHT . >> 60 PRESENT POSITION IN THE JOINT VENTURE. >> RIGHT. SO, BUT THIS -- THIS IS WITH AUDUBON . >> CORRECT. THE AMENDMENT IS WITH AUDUBON . THERE WAS A QUESTION, MR. WARE AND MR. HAWKINS , THEY DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER FORMING THE LLC PRIOR TO THE SECRETARY TIMEFRAME. IF [03:00:08] THERE IS NOT A VOTE TODAY, THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN DISCUSS THIS AFTERNOON AND TRY TO GET AN ANSWER FOR THE FPRA BOARD TOMORROW SO IF WE NEED TO AMEND ANY OF THESE TIME FRAMES, WE CAN. SECONDARILY , I DO NOT KNOW THIS DISCUSSION WAS SPECIFICALLY HAD RELATED TO -- IT IS BEING VERY COMPARTMENTALIZED. 90 DAYS DUE DILIGENCE, 90 DAYS TO LOOK AT THE SITE PLANS SO MAYBE THERE IS A CONSIDERATION THAT NEEDS TO BE GIVEN FROM AUDUBON AND HARBERT'S PERSPECTIVE ON COMBINING THOSE AND LOOKING AT THE SITE PLANS NOW RATHER THAN WAITING FOR 90 DAYS AND SLOWING DOWN THAT PROCESS. >> AND I THINK -- I AM JUST GOING TO OBSERVE THIS IS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES OF NEGOTIATING. >> IT DEFINITELY IS. ABSOLUTELY. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK? ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO SHARE? >> JUST A QUICK FOLLOW-UP QUESTION. IF I AM INTERPRETING COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON MONTHLY COMMENTS CORRECTLY, I BELIEVE I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH HIM. YOU WILL PROVIDE HOTEL IN THIS TIMELINE. YOUR AGREEMENT WITH YOUR HOTEL PARTNER IS IRRELEVANT TO ME . IF I KNOW THERE IS AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE, IT IS ALMOST AS IF THAT IS A SEPARATE ENTITY ONTO WHAT WE ARE DOING . WE ARE CONTRACTING TO SAY YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A HOTEL . THAT AGREEMENT IS THING WE HAVE CONTRACTED WITH THE HOTEL OPERATOR TO MOVE FORWARD. I DON'T SEE HOW THAT AGREEMENT IS RELATIVE TO OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM. SO, JEREMIAH, IS THAT WHERE YOU WERE GOING WITH THAT? >> YES, SIR. I AM IN AGREEMENT TO SAY THAT IS A SECONDARY DOCUMENT THAT SUPPORTS -- TO BE PROVIDED THE DOCUMENT IS GREAT. WE CAN DIGEST WHAT IS IN THERE BUT IT IS NOT SWAY MY DECISION FOR OR AGAINST OUR CONTRACTUAL SCENARIO BECAUSE THAT IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT SITUATION AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY INPUT TO THAT. >> ZERO . >> IF WE DID, IT'S INTERFERENCE OR SOMETHING , SOME KIND OF LEGAL TERM FOR THAT. I AGREE WITH JEREMIAH'S ASSESSMENT , THAT IT IS OUTSIDE OUR PURVIEW . IT IS NICE INFORMATION TO HAVE BUT IT WILL NOT SWAY THE DECISION FROM MY PERSPECTIVE RELATIVE TO THE AGREEMENT . >> ODDLY ENOUGH, MADAM MAYOR IF I COULD JUMP IN ON THAT THOUGHT , BECAUSE WHEN WE ORIGINALLY ASSIGNED THE AGREEMENT WITH AUDUBON THEY WERE ENTERING INTO MOUS AND WHETHER OR NOT WE HAD ANYTHING, LIKE GOOD, BAD, OR INDIFFERENT. WE DID NOT HAVE ANY SAY. WE SAID THOU SHALT OF THE AGREEMENT, RIGHT? YOU SHALL . YOU SHALL. YOU SHALL . WHEN WE GOT INTO THE WEEDS MORE BECAUSE WE WERE HAVING DELAYS, AND RIGHTLY SO WE GOT INTO THE WEEDS, WE STARTED ASKING FOR THE ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION BUT IT WAS NEVER IN MY REVIEW, IN MY APPROVAL . I DID NOT THINK WE NEEDED THAT DOCUMENT . WE SAID THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS. PLEASE PROVIDE. THAT IS BASICALLY THE EXACT SAME THING THAT YOU SAID AND WHAT I SAID EARLIER, 20 MINUTES AGO . >> THE QUESTION CONTINGENT THOUGH, WE HAVE NOW INTRODUCED ANOTHER PARTY TO COME ALONGSIDE TO GUARANTEE THAT WE GET THE HOTEL BY A CERTAIN DAY BECAUSE THERE WAS NO CONFIDENCE IN THAT ENTITY THAT THEY COULD DELIVER NOT ONLY ON THE DATE BUT EVEN WHATEVER FINANCIAL ASSURANCE THERE WAS TO GET THAT PROJECT DONE BECAUSE THERE WAS NO CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT AND WE WERE NOT MOVING FORWARD. THIRD-PARTY COMES IN THAT HAS EXPERTISE IN THIS AREA. YOUR QUESTION ORIGINALLY, MADAM MAYOR , IF WE ARE DETERMINING FOR 180 DAYS WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS PROCESS, THAT PROCESS IS CONTINGENT ON THEM GETTING TOGETHER TO SOLIDIFY THE RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE IF I UNDERSTAND IT RIGHT , THE 180 DAYS IT IS ASKING US TO DO DUE DILIGENCE FURTHER BETWEEN HIM AND AUDUBON TO SEE IF THEY WILL UNITE AND IF THEY DECIDE NOT TO UNITE AND HE PULLS OUT, THEN WE ARE BACK IN A SITUATION WITH AUDUBON WHICH WE DIDN'T HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THAT WE ALLOWED FOR HARBERT TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES SO WE COULD BE ASSURED WE CAN MOVE THIS PROJECT FORWARD SO I DISAGREE WITH THAT, COMMISSIONERS. IF HARBERT PULLS OUT, WE ARE RIGHT BACK WHERE WE ARE AND WE STILL MAY HAVE THIS ON PAPER. WE HAVE NO ASSURANCE THEY CAN EVEN DELIVER THE DATE OF THE HOTEL. WHAT IS IT, AUGUST OR WHATEVER THAT DATE IS IN THE CONTRACT? [03:05:03] THEY HAVE GUARANTEED IN THIS CONTRACT PHASE ONE WILL BE COMPLETED BY -- WHAT IS THAT? JULY 11TH, 2028 . >> CORRECT . >> THE PARAGRAPH IN SECTION 3 SECURES THE CITY IS PROTECTED. THAT IS AFTER THE ABC , THE BOTTOM PARAGRAPH AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE. WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT IN THE ORIGINAL AND THAT IS WHY I AM MORE CONFIDENT AND I APPRECIATE MS. HEDGES BINGING THIS FORWARD, THAT SPECIFIC PARAGRAPH. WE DID HAVE SOME START DATES BUT THIS IS VERY SPECIFIC TO THAT EXHIBIT AND THE START DATE SO IT WILL COME, YOU KNOW, THE CLOCK WILL DING WHATEVER THE START DATE IS MET IF IT IS NOT MET. >> I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, COMMISSIONER. I PUT MY TRUST -- THE COMMISSIONER CAME TO ME TO SAY AT LEAST LISTEN TO THIS COMPANY AND WE MET WITH THEM AND THAT GAVE ME HOPE AND ASPIRATION WE CAN DELIVER . FORT PIERCE DESPERATELY WANTS THIS PROJECT TO BE DONE AND I AM SITTING HERE IN MY MIND LIKE, THEY ARE ASKING FOR 180 DAYS TO MOVE THIS THING FORWARD. IF THEY DON'T, I AM SITTING HERE UNTIL 2028 BECAUSE THAT IS IN THIS CONTRACT NOW WAITING ON THE HOTEL TO BE BUILT KNOWING GOOD AND WELL THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN WITH US BACK AT SQUARE ONE AND WE HAVE TO WAIT. DID I INTERPRET THIS RIGHT? THAT IS MY INTERPRETATION. SO, I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS AND WE DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL. WE DON'T KNOW. WE ARE HERE SAYING WE WANT TO DELIVER A HOTEL SO THAT IS HOW I INTERPRETED THE QUESTION, MADAM MAYOR . RIGHT NOW MAKING A DECISION ON THIS 180 DAY PERIOD . THAT IS GRANTED IN THIS NEW SECOND PROPOSAL THAT WE JUST RECEIVED. QUITE FRANKLY , I WANT TO PROCESS THAT EVEN MORE. I THINK THE ATTORNEY NEEDS TO MEET WITH THEIR ATTORNEY THIS AFTERNOON AND WE CAN TAKE THIS UP TOMORROW IN FPRA AND IF WE HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION, THAT GIVES US A LITTLE MORE TIME TO MAKE SURE WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS BECAUSE, AGAIN, I AM WITH COMMISSIONER GAINES. I AM UNCOMFORTABLE GETTING STUFF PAST TO US AND WE DON'T HAVE A CHANCE TO PROCESS OR EVEN THINK. I HAVE A CONCERN WITH THAT . WE ARE NEGOTIATING FROM THE DAIS, AS THE MAYOR SAYS . >> MADAM MAYOR, MAY I MAKE AN OBSERVATION? >> SURE . >> PART OF THE COMPLICATION I AM HEARING FROM COMMISSIONER JOHNSON IS THE UNKNOWN OF THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND IF THERE ARE MODIFICATIONS. IT IS REASONABLE FOR A FINANCIAL PARTNER COMING IN SAYING WE WANT TO TAKE A LOOK TO SEE IF WE CAN MAKE IT BETTER. MAKE THIS SITE PLAN BETTER. THAT NECESSITATES YOUR PROCESS. THE PROCESS IS CUMBERSOME. I HEARD COMMISSIONER BRODERICK IDENTIFY AMENITIES . THAT IS CUMBERSOME. THAT DEMONSTRATES 180 DAYS IS -- I REALIZE YOU ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH IT BUT IT DEMONSTRATES THE REASONING BEHIND IT. IF WE CAN MAKE THE 180 DAYS AND ALLOW THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL PROCESS TO GO DURING THE 180 DAYS, THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL BUT I AM CONCERNED IT HAS BEEN 180 DAYS. WE WILL NOT BE THROUGH YOUR VERY LENGTHY PROCESS AND I HEAR REAL SIGNIFICANT BENEFITS TO THE CITY WITH THE SITE PLAN IDEAS THAT I JUST HEARD. BUT TO GET TO THE END POINT, THE PROCESS WOULD HAVE TO BE EXPEDITED . AND I THINK IT IS REASONABLE FOR A FINANCIAL PARTNER PUTTING IN WHAT THEY ARE PUTTING IN TO SAY CAN WE DO THIS EVEN BETTER? EVERYBODY WINS. I UNDERSTAND THE COMPLEXITY HERE AND THIS IS DIFFICULT TO NEGOTIATE FROM THE DAIS. BUT I UNDERSTAND WHY HARBERT HAS ASKED FOR THE 180 DAYS. EVERYONE IS MOTIVATED. THIS IS VERY COMPLEX. THIS WHOLE THING IS VERY COMPLEX. >> WELL , I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. WARE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE TIMELINES AND I SAID , I PERSONALLY AM NOT CONCERNED ABOUT EXTENDED TIMELINES . I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT IT . WHAT I AM REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT IS CAN IT GET DONE? CAN IT GET DONE? JUST BEING REALISTIC ABOUT WHEN I CAN GET DONE . I, PERSONALLY, IS NOT -- AM NOT AS CONCERNED AS THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS ABOUT THE TIMELINE. I JUST NEED TO KNOW I AM DEALING WITH A TRUSTED PARTNER WHO IS TRYING TO MAKE [03:10:01] IT WORK AND WHO HAS THE FINANCIAL WHEREWITHAL TO DO IT. THAT IS WHERE I AM COMING FROM. AND SO, MY ORIGINAL REQUEST ABOUT THE 180 DAYS WAS NOT SO MUCH I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE DELAY, I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT NEEDED TO BE COMPLETED. AND SO I DIDN'T WANT TO VOTE ON AN AGREEMENT THAT BECAUSE WHAT YOU SAY IS A CUMBERSOME PROCESS, IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE AND MR. FREEMAN IS LOOKING AT A LOT OF THOSE THINGS YOU ARE SAYING, BUT LET ME TELL YOU, WE FOLLOW OUR RULES. OUR RULES ARE THERE FOR GOOD REASON AND MAYBE IF WE LOOK AT THEM AGAIN AND SAY THIS IS NOT BUSINESS FRIENDLY OR THIS IS TOO CUMBERSOME OR NOT NECESSARY IN 2024 , WE HAVE BEEN A CITY SINCE 1901 , SO WE ARE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AND SAYING , CAN WE DO THIS BETTER? MY CONCERN ISN'T EVEN THOUGH I DON'T LIKE HAVING EXTENSIONS AND PUTTING THIS OFF , WHAT I WANT TO DO IS HAVE A PARTNER THAT WILL DO WHAT THEY SAY AND I'M COUNTING ON THAT TO BE HARBERT . >> UNDERSTOOD . >> I CAN VOTE ON THIS TODAY, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON SOMETHING THAT IS NOT A REALISTIC TIMEFRAME FOR HARBERT . THAT IS WHERE I AM. >> IN THAT INSTANCE , WITH THE APPLICANT OR HARBERT COME FORWARD AND LOOK FOR AN ADDITIONAL EXTENSION? WOULD THAT MAKE THE MOST SENSE THAT WE RUN TO THE 90 DAY DUE DILIGENCE, 90 DAY SITE PLAN, HALFWAY THROUGH THE PROCESS, HALF THE BOARD HAS HAD A BITE OF THE APPLE AND IT'S WORKING ITS WAY UP THE CITY COMMISSION. I WOULD ASSUME YOU WOULD LOOK FOR ANOTHER 30, 45, 60 DAY EXTENSION? >> YES, SIR. WHATEVER THE PLANNING PEOPLE TELL ME WE NEED . YES, SIR . >> WE WOULD NEED SOME KIND OF ASSURANCE. SOME KIND OF PROOF OR ACTION THAT SAYS THIS IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING . IF NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE -- >> RIGHT. IT HAS WORKED ITS WAY THROUGH. >> YES, EXACTLY. >> IT IS GETTING HERE. THE PLANNING BOARD OR WHATEVER. >> RIGHT . RIGHT. RIGHT. WE CAN SEE PROGRESS SOMEWHERE. YES, SIR? >> IN ADDITION TO THAT , I UNDERSTAND -- AND THANK YOU FOR THE DESCRIPTION OF THE 90 DAY AND PLUS 90 DAY. I NEEDED TO ASK THE QUESTION BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THIS CHAIR IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT , SO I WANTED TO MAKE AN OBSERVATION AND MAKE IT CLEAR . >> GOOD QUESTION . >> SO WHAT I NEED TO KNOW FROM STAFF AND I DON'T KNOW IF MR. FREEMAN CAN COME FORWARD BECAUSE THE THINGS AND IDEAS THAT YOU HAVE THAT I WOULD LIKE BECAUSE YOU ARE NAVIGATING THE 90 DAYS, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FROM PLANNING STAFF WHAT CONSTITUTES ANY ADDITIONAL SITE PLAN REAPPLICATION BECAUSE IT COULD BE MINOR . IF THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING A FLOOR, THAT , TO ME , IS SUPER MINOR. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 6 FEET. VERY MINOR. YOU KNOW, IN OUR PLANNING STAFF AND PROFESSIONAL GROUP THAT WE'VE GOT, WHAT CONSTITUTES A WHOLE SITE PLAN APPLICATION PROCESS? >> MR. FREEMAN? >> 5% CHANGE . >> 5%? >> YES. >> THAT IS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT, 5% ON PROJECTS. >> IF WE LOST THE BUILDING OR A SIGNIFICANT INFRASTRUCTURE CHANGE BECAUSE OF THAT , BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENT QUANTITIES OF PARKING, WE WOULD COUNT PARKING. IF IT INCREASED OR DECREASED BY 5%, THAT WOULD CONSTITUTE A MAJOR SITE PLAN. >> JUST PARKING 5%? >> I BELIEVE THIS IS A PD SO ANY CHANGES INTO THE TIMELINES ARE EMBEDDED IN THE PD OR PUD WILL NEED TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO COMMISSION. YES, THE CITY HAS ITS OWN TIMELINES. WE ARE NOTICING REQUIREMENTS. WE HAVE REVIEW REQUIREMENTS BUT ALL OF THAT STARTS WITH A GOOD QUALITY APPLICATION AND NOT GOING BACKWARDS AND FORWARDS WITH THE APPLICANT'S ' TEAM AND GETTING A GOOD STANDARD OF REVIEW DOCUMENTS. WE ARE NOT IN CONTROL OF THAT. THAT IS WHY I SAY SIX MONTHS . I DO NOT EXPECT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE 90 DAYS WILL HAVE A FULL SET OF PLANS DELIVERED TO US. ARCHITECTURAL . STORMWATER . PARKING. LANDSCAPING. LIGHTING. ALL OF THE COMPONENTS OF A SITE [03:15:03] PLAN, WHETHER IT'S MINOR OR MAJOR. THAT GOES OUT TO THE TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR REVIEW. THAT GOES TO EXTERNAL AGENCIES. I AM -- I CANNOT SAY. I CANNOT GUARANTEE, AS COMMISSIONER GAINES WOULD SAY, ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS WILL BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE REGULATIONS THAT WE WOULD BE ASKING PEOPLE TO REVIEW AND WE WILL NOTE ENGINEERING AND SPECIFICALLY STORMWATER AND DRAINAGE ARE VERY COMPLEX TO COMPARE AND REVIEW. ALL I WILL SAY IS PLANNING WILL AND BUILDING WILL AND ENGINEERING WILL REVIEW THE PLANS AND THE TIMELINES THAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING TO , YOU KNOW, REVIEW THEM AND THAT WILL BE A FAST TRACK BECAUSE WE ARE CONSTANTLY WORKING ON FAST TRACK. >> RIGHT. >> DO YOU THINK THAT REALISTICALLY WITH ALL THE BODIES THIS NEEDS TO MOVE THROUGH, THE BOARDS , ET CETERA, SIX MONTHS IS REALISTIC ? >> I THINK WE CAN SCHEDULE THE BOARDS USUALLY WITHIN FOUR MONTHS. I'M ADDING TWO MONTHS FOR REVIEW . REVIEWS, AMENDMENTS, COMPLIANCE , AND NOTICING ALL OF THE STUFF THAT GOES ON YOU WILL NEED TO HAVE A REVIEW OF THOSE THINGS. >> WHICH WE WILL NECESSITATE AN ADDITIONAL EXTENSION OVER THE 180 . I AM COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. IT IS A REALISTIC PERSPECTIVE OF HOW A PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE NEEDS TO BE MANAGED. THERE IS NOTHING -- THERE IS NO SIDETRACK HERE TO SPEED THIS UP . >> IF WE HAD A DEADLINE FOR A SITE PLAN TO BE SUBMITTED WITHIN THOSE 90 DAYS, THEN THAT MAY NEGATE THE REQUIREMENT TO EXTEND ANY TIMELINES REGARDING APPROVAL . >> GOT IT. >> MADAM MAYOR , I FEEL BETTER WITH WHAT DIRECTOR FREEMAN IS SAYING BECAUSE TO ME , IT IS ALSO PUBLIC TRUST. I WOULD HATE TO SAY SOMETHING AND COME BACK NEXT MONTH AND EXTEND THIS OR EXTEND THAT . THAT IS WHERE WE ARE LOSING THE PUBLIC WITH THIS AND THAT IS WHY I'VE MADE THE COMMENTS THAT YOUR ARGUMENT IS FAIR FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT. YOU KNOW, IT PUTS INTO A PERSPECTIVE THAT I HEARD THAT AGAIN YOU HAVE TO CONSUMMATE THIS RELATIONSHIP WITH AUDUBON AND PART OF THAT WAS NOT ONLY DUE DILIGENCE WITH THEM BUT PART OF IT WAS THE SITE PLAN REVIEW . YOU'VE HEARD COMMENTS NOW ABOUT WHAT CONSTITUTES THAT 5% AND OBVIOUSLY FROM WHAT YOU HAVE JUST SHARED , THIS WILL MEET THAT THRESHOLD WHEN IT COMES TO CHANGE SO I AM GETTING MORE COMFORTABLE NOW BUT I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE LAND THIS IN THE RIGHT PLACE AND WE ARE NOT LOOKING LIKE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING WHEN IT COMES TO TIMELINES AND WE KEEP EXTENDING AFTER EXTENDING AND THAT STORY AND THAT NARRATIVE ARE NOT COMMUNICATED WELL INTO THE COMMUNITY BY THE PEOPLE TELLING THE STORY. THAT IS WHAT I AM TRYING TO AVOID HERE SO WE MIGHT AS WELL HAVE THIS DISCUSSION TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS REALISTIC AND SET THAT EXPECTATION WITH THE DEVELOPER HERE SAYING THIS IS THE TIMEFRAME IN WHICH WE MUST SUBMIT THE APPLICATION WITHIN WHATEVER TIMEFRAME THAT IS AND IF YOU CAN DO THAT WITHIN 180 DAYS , AT LEAST YOU SUBMITTED THAT AND WE CAN GO BACK AND FORTH ON NEGOTIATION, IF I AM HEARING THAT RIGHT. >> IF I MAY -- >> PLEASE PROCEED . >> I WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE ARE CONNECTING THE DOTS CORRECTLY AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE ARE NOT BUT FOR MY BENEFIT I WANT TO BE SURE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO REPRESENT SENDING -- SOMETHING THAT , LIKE YOU, I DON'T WANT TO BE INCORRECT. THE 180 DAYS WAS AND IS FOR US TO FORMALIZE OUR JOINT VENTURE AGREEMENT WITH AUDUBON. DURING THAT TIME , WE WILL, AGAIN, AS I HAVE SAID, ENGAGE THIRD-PARTY CONSULTANTS TO BEGIN THEIR REVIEW NOT GENERATING PLANS, BUT THEIR REVIEW OF IS THIS POSSIBLE , IS IT NOT? IT WILL CREATE SOME INTERACTION OBVIOUSLY WITH THE CITY AS IT RELATES TO WHAT THE CITY WILL ALLOW AND DIMENSIONS AND THEIR REQUIREMENTS AND BUILDING CODE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH . I WANT TO BE SURE THAT I AM CLEAR WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A SUBMISSION OF FULL PLANS AND SPECS WITHIN 180 DAYS . THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN . OKAY? BUT BY THE END OF 180 DAYS , AGAIN , OUR INTENT WOULD BE TO [03:20:05] FORMALIZE OUR JOINT VENTURE AGREEMENT BECAUSE BY THAT TIME WE WILL HAVE HAD IN OUR CONSULTANTS WILL HAVE HAD SOME INTERACTION WITH THE CITY AS TO IS THIS A DEFINITE NO? IF IT IS NOT A DEFINITE NO , HOW CAN WE TWEAK THIS TO MAKE THIS WORK WITHOUT ACTUALLY , YOU KNOW, SPENDING TIME TO DESIGN IT? WITHIN 180 DAYS. BECAUSE THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. >> OKAY. >> DOES THAT HELP CLARIFY? >> YES. >> I AM FOCUSED ON THE 180 DAYS AND AGAIN , I APPRECIATE HIM COMING UP AND I'M SORRY, I DO NOT KNOW YOUR NAME. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT BECAUSE , AGAIN, NOT THAT THE PLANS HAVE TO BE DONE. NOT THAT THE PLANS HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED . WE JUST KNOW AS AN ENTITY WHAT CAN BE DONE . THEN WE PUT THE CONSULTANTS ON AND THEY WILL DRAW IT AND THE ENGINEER WILL SUBMIT IT AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. I THINK IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER THE ADDITIONAL 90 DAYS , SO INSTEAD OF 90 AND 90 MAKE IT 90 AND 180 . AGAIN, IF IT IS A FUNCTION OF REVIEW WITH OUR CONSULTANTS OR HIS OFFICE TO COORDINATE WHAT CAN BE DONE, AND AT THAT POINT , BY THAT TIME , WE WILL KNOW WHAT THE PROJECT WILL LOOK LIKE, WHAT IT IS GOING TO BE. WE CAN PRICE IT UP CONCEPTUALLY AND FORMALIZE EVERYTHING THEN. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO EVERYBODY? >> SO I AM LOOKING AT THE CHART AND IT SAYS DUE DILIGENCE , 90 DAYS . WHICH IS 11 /5 /24 IN ANOTHER DUE DILIGENCE, 1/28 /25 . YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ADDING 90 DAYS TO THE 1/28/25. DO I HAVE THAT RIGHT? >> YES, MA'AM . MY HOPE IS IT WOULD NOT TAKE THAT LONG FOR THAT LEVEL, BUT AGAIN, WITH HIS -- AND RIGHTFULLY SO -- >> MR. FREEMAN. >> SORRY, MR. FREEMAN. I APOLOGIZE. >> YOU WILL GET TO KNOW HIM, I HOPE . >> I'M SURE I WILL. >> >> I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT AS AN END DATE. I FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO SEE THIS AND I HOPE ANYWAY I HAVE COME TO LEARN I AM PRETTY TRANSPARENT IN WHAT I DO BUT THERE ARE TWO SCENARIOS HERE THAT I'VE TRIED TO MAKE VERY CLEAR TO BOTH YOU AND AUDUBON AND I HAVE, I BELIEVE. THERE IS THE LEGAL SIDE OF THINGS GOING ON LONG BEFORE I ARRIVED. THEN THERE IS THIS PROJECT . I AM FOCUSED ON THIS PROJECT . I CAN'T INVOLVE MYSELF BECAUSE I'M NOT INVOLVED IN THIS , BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE TO ALIGN IN ORDER FOR THIS TO HAPPEN. SO TO THAT END, I AM HERE TO SUPPORT AND TO LEND MY EFFORTS AND EXPERTISE AND KNOWLEDGE AND SO FORTH TO HELP MAKE THAT HAPPEN . BUT FROM HARBERT 'S STANDPOINT, WHETHER THE START AND 30 DAYS, 30 MONTHS, OR A YEAR , DOESN'T MATTER TO US AS MUCH AS IT MATTERS TO YOU BECAUSE OF THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT. >> I THINK IT'S -- I DO NOT THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR US TO EXIT FROM THIS DISCUSSION WITHOUT BEING REALISTIC. OUR DIRECTOR IS INFORMING US AS TO WHAT HE BELIEVES IT IS GOING TO TAKE TO EXECUTE ON A MAJOR SITE PLAN REVISION. I TAKE THAT AS THOSE ARE BANKABLE TIMELINES HE'S GIVING US. HE SAYS IT IS SIX MONTHS, IT IS SIX MONTHS REALISTICALLY. YOU GOT THE 90 DAY DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD AND 6 MONTH FOR EXECUTION OF YOUR AGREEMENT SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN APPROVAL . WHATEVER SITE PLAN MIGHT BE COMING OUT AT THE END OF THIS. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, BILL? >> THAT IS CORRECT WITH ONE CLARIFICATION. AT THE END OF SIX MONTHS WE WILL NOT HAVE COMPLETE SPECS FOR PERMIT BUT WE WILL KNOW WHAT OUR PROJECT CAN BE AND THOSE DRAWINGS WILL BE IN PROCESS. >> LET'S ASSUME THAT IS THE CASE . YOU'VE GOT A SITE PLAN YOU ARE RUNNING UP THE FLAGPOLE HERE TO ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS AND BOARDS AND YOU NEED TO GET EYES ON THIS. THAT IS THE PRIMARY DOCUMENT BUT THE TIMELINE FOR APPROVALS OF ALL OF THIS I THINK I AM SIDING WITH DIRECTOR FREEMAN. HE HAS HIT THIS SQUARE ON THE HEAD. THAT IS WHAT IT WILL TAKE TO DO IT. >> TO CLARIFY FOR MY BENEFIT, THE SIX MONTHS , I BELIEVE, THAT HE IS REFERRING TO FOR APPROVAL, NOT FOR YES, THIS CAN BE DONE . >> RIGHT . >> FOR APPROVAL IT IS SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE WE SUBMIT THE FULL ENGINEER DRAWINGS . [03:25:01] AND I AM GOOD WITH THAT . >> MR. FREEMAN? >> THAT IS NOT OUT OF THE ORDINARY INCIDENTALLY. >> META MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS , I THINK WE'RE MIXING UP TWO DIFFERENT DISCUSSIONS, HONESTLY. WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IN THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS THE 180 DAYS IS RELATED TO HARBERT AND AUDUBON JOINING THEIR JOINT VENTURE PARTNERSHIP , NOT FOR THE SUBMISSION OF THE SITE PLAN, AMENDMENT OF THE SITE PLAN. THAT IS SOMETHING THEY WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH RELATED TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT TIMELINES AND THEIR GANTT CHART . WHEN YOU LOOK AT -- THEY CURRENTLY HAVE DESIGN TIME BUILT-IN OF EIGHT MONTHS . THAT IS WHERE THEY SHOULD BE DOING THEIR SITE PLAN AMENDMENTS , THEIR DESIGN FOR THEIR SITE PLAN , AND SUBMITTING FOR DPCR THEIR APPROVAL FOR SITE WORK 9, 10, 25 . THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT IDEAS THAT ARE HAPPENING . I DO NOT THINK THE TIMEFRAME IS FORGIVING FOR HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE TO ACTUALLY OBTAIN APPROVAL AFFECTS HOW LONG IT SHOULD TAKE AUDUBON AND HARBERT TO FINALIZE THEIR JOINT VENTURE AGREEMENT . >> OKAY. WE HAVE TALKED AROUND IN CIRCLES. RIGHT . AND SO -- >> 180 DAYS . >> I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. >> MAYOR, IF I MAY? >> YES, SIR. >> JUST TO PIGGYBACK ON -- >> MS. HEDGES. >> WE STARTED WITH 180 DAYS, 90 AND 90. >> MR. FREEMAN . >> MR. FREEMAN MONTHLY CONTRIBUTION TO THE DISCUSSION WHICH IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED , I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK, YOU KNOW, KNOWING NOW -- I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ALL BUT IT MAY NOT BE ALL. BUT THE ITEMS THAT I HAVE DISCUSSED THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT AND THAT REVIEW BY OUR FOLKS WILL BE AFTER THE 90 DAY DUE DILIGENCE, STARTING ON THE 91ST DAY, MY QUESTION TO YOU WOULD BE IF WE RIFLE SHOOT THOSE AREAS , DO YOU THINK YOUR OFFICE CAN TURN AROUND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE ? LET ME REPHRASE THE QUESTION. WHAT TIMEFRAME DO YOU THINK YOUR OFFICE WOULD NEED TO TURN AROUND IF WE'RE GOING TO ADD OR DO THE THINGS THAT I HAVE DISCUSSED, HOW LONG OF A TIME OR PROCESS DO YOU THINK YOUR OFFICE WOULD TAKE FROM THE TIME IT IS SUBMITTED FOR US TO DRAW IT UP AND SUBMIT IT TO YOU FOR THE TURN AROUND REVIEW ? AGAIN, NOT FOR FINAL APPROVAL BUT THIS MEETS CODE , DISSATISFIED THESE REQUIREMENTS, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH? AND I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. I WANT TO BE REALISTIC HERE. >> THE WAY YOU ARE DESCRIBING IT, I THINK YOU ARE EXTENDING THE TIMELINE . I THINK YOU CAN BUILD IN SOME OF THE PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS WITHIN THE TIMEFRAME FOR OVERALL APPROVAL . THAT IS A WAY WE CAN CUT THE TIME DOWN HERE. THE INTERACTION THAT WE APPRECIATE IS WITH YOUR DESIGNERS , YOUR TEAM COMING IN TO US. WE WILL APPOINT A PROJECT MANAGER TO HELP WITH THAT . WE WILL MEET AND DISCUSS WITH THE INTERNAL DEPARTMENTS ESPECIALLY TO TALK ABOUT THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE WILL BE LOOKING AT FOR REVIEW, WHICH WILL GIVE YOUR PROFESSIONALS THE DIRECTION THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO DELIVER FOR SUBMITTAL. THAT REALLY DOES ACCELERATE THE SUBMITTAL PROCESS BECAUSE THE REVIEW IN A LOT OF RESPECTS HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE IN THE BACKGROUND AND YOU ARE WORKING WITH THE REQUIREMENTS AND SETTING THE PARAMETERS . UNDERSTANDING OUR CODE AND THE VARIANCES OF OUR CODE . THAT IS WHAT WE APPRECIATE RATHER THAN JUST HAVING WORK AND SUBMIT IT. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEND MORE TIME IN THE PRELIMINARY TO ACCELERATE THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL PROCESS . >> AND WE WORK THAT WAY SO THAT WILL BE A NICE FIT . >> THAT IS DEPENDENT ON YOUR PROFESSIONALS GETTING THE QUALITY DOCUMENTS AND INFORMATION RESPONDING TO THE INQUIRIES AND ALL OF THAT . >> THERE IN LIES MY QUESTION BECAUSE, AGAIN, OUR TEAM , OUR DESIGN TEAM , WILL HAVE TO DO ENOUGH ON A PRELIMINARY BASIS TO HAVE YOU RENDER AN EDUCATED DECISION. [03:30:01] >> YES. >> AND PRIOR TO THEM CREATING WHAT I WILL CALL THE ELLIS SHOW PRELIMINARY DESIGN , THEY WILL BE IN COMMUNICATION WITH YOU AND YOUR STAFF BEFORE THEY PUT PENCIL TO PAPER SO THEY ARE NOT OFF DOING SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD HAVE TOLD THEM THAT WE DON'T OPERATE THAT WAY. >> I WOULD THINK IN RESPONSE TO YOUR QUESTION ORIGINALLY , I WOULD SAY BETWEEN 10 AND 14 DAYS ON RECEIPT OF A PRELIMINARY PLAN WITH PARAMETERS ATTACHED . IDEAS WOULD BE GOOD ENOUGH FOR US TO RUN IT THROUGH INTERNALLY TO IDENTIFY MAJOR ISSUES OR REDIRECTIONS . THAT WOULD ALLOW PROFESSIONALS TO START TO GENERATE THE FULL PLANS 100% . >> AND GIVEN THAT , AGAIN , I HOPE WE ARE CLEAR NOW BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT COMPLETED PLANS BUT I THINK WE CAN LIVE WITH THE 90 DAYS, BEYOND THE 90 DAYS FOR WHAT I WILL CALL A PRELIMINARY SUBMITTAL FOR YOUR REVIEW AND SO FORTH. IF THAT MAKES -- IF THAT MAKES SENSE TO EVERYBODY -- >> YOU CAN LIVE WITH WHAT IS WRITTEN THERE. >> IT IS A BLESSING THAT YOU ARE HERE AND WE CAN WALK THROUGH THIS AND HEARING THE SAME THING FROM EVERYBODY . >> IS THAT RIGHT? >> I THINK THAT IS WHAT THE MAYOR IS ASKING . >> I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY, WE HAVE A HARD STOP THIS AFTERNOON AT 1:00. >> THANK YOU. I AM VERY GLAD ABOUT THAT. >> I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT BE. >> WE WILL KNOW . >> TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES. >> OKAY . YES, SIR? >> MS. HEDGES, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP AND MR. WARE, THANK YOU FOR TALKING THIS OUT. MR. FREEMAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. MS. HEDGES DO NOT LIKE CONSTRUCTION AS MUCH UNTIL SHE STARTED MEETING WITH ME AND NOW SHE LIKES IT. >> >> NEW CAREER! >> MR. FREEMAN, HERE ARE MY FEW QUESTIONS. WE MET FOR THE SITE PLAN PROCESS. WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS. WE WILL NOW TAKE THE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE AND WHAT I AM HEARING FROM THE PARTNERS HERE ASSUMING THIS IS MOVING FORWARD AND WE GET SOME POSITIVE MOVEMENT HERE , WE ARE TAKING SOME PUZZLE PIECES AND MOVING THEM AROUND A LITTLE BIT. YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOME CONSIDERATION TO PARKING FOR THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT, NUMBER ONE . NUMBER TWO, IMPERVIOUS AREAS , IT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE IT WILL CHANGE BECAUSE THE SITE IS MOSTLY IMPERVIOUS ANYWAY WITH A FEW ELEMENTS. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CODE MY REQUEST OF YOU AND STAFF IS TO HOLISTICALLY LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO BUILDINGS BECOMING ONE BUILDING, AND WE WILL MAKE IT A PARKING LOT POTENTIALLY -- POTENTIALLY -- AGAIN, IMPERVIOUS HAS NOT CHANGED SO I AM CONSIDERING THAT TO BE A VERY MINOR JEREMIAH DEFINITION. >> AN ENGINEERING DEFINITION AND A PLANNING DEFINITION. >> YES, SIR. >> >> THAT IS WHY WE HAVE MOMENTS OF INTENSE FELLOWSHIP. BECAUSE MY LENS IS DIFFERENT THAN YOURS. ADDING A FOUR-DOOR PARKING GARAGE , VERY, VERY MINOR. I KNOW THIS CODE IS SPECIFIC TO NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES. I AM NOT ASKING TO BYPASS THE SYSTEMS BY ANY MEANS . I AM ASKING US TO CONSIDER FULLY THE PUBLIC BENEFIT AT THE END OF THE DAY WITH OUR PARTNERS. >> I HEAR YOU VERY WELL, COMMISSIONER . WE KNOW THIS IS A PRIORITY PROJECT FOR THE CITY AND WHAT WE DO IN THE PRELIMINARY PART OF THIS , IF WE SEE SOMETHING THAT IS A FINE LINE BETWEEN MINOR AND MAJOR , WE WILL PROVIDE ADVICE OF HOW THIS CAN BE MOVED TO A MINOR AMENDMENT RATHER THAN A MAJOR AMENDMENT. WE WILL RECEIVE THE REQUEST FROM THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND WE WILL ANALYZE THOSE AND GIVE PARAMETERS BACK IF THEY COULD SAVE TIME ON DOING SOME OF THIS STUFF. WE DON'T WANT -- I DON'T WANT THINGS ON MY DESK . >> >> YES. AND AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE AND BEARING IN MIND OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO THE CITY AND THE CITY COMMISSION AND CITY MANAGER , SO -- >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT -- WE WENT FULL-CIRCLE, MADAM MAYOR . YOU ARE RIGHT. THESE ARE THE INTRICATE PARTS OF DEVELOPMENT. THE PROCESS IS WE HAVE IN PLACE ARE GOOD. THEY DRIVE ME NUTS EVERY DAY. THEY DRIVE ME BATTY. I CAN TELL YOU [03:35:03] IN THE WORLD OF WHEN THE DESIGN PROFESSIONALS COME IN, WHEN YOU GO TO THE CPR, YOU WILL HAVE TO SUBMIT IT IN A CERTAIN WAY AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WHEN YOU GET THAT COMMENT BACK, YOU'VE GOT TO GO BACK AND SUBMIT ONCE YOU FINALIZE AND ADDRESS ALL OF THE COMMENTS . THEN YOU SUBMIT FOR A BUILDING PERMIT . YOU KNOW, I WILL BE IN THESE CHAMBERS IN A FEW YEARS TALKING ABOUT THE EFFICIENCIES BECAUSE I WILL DO IT WITH A DIFFERENT HAT ON AND I AM JUST SHARING IT WITH YOU BECAUSE IT IS REAL LIFE, REAL WORLD IMPACTS AND POSITIVE IMPACTS . NEGATIVE AND POSITIVE BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO SECURE HOW WE MOVE THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS WITH THE PUBLIC PROCESS ALONG WITH THE PRIVATE PARTNERS, WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE DOING TODAY. TRUST ME, THERE ARE POSITIVES AND NEGATIVES BUT I'M GOOD WITH IT. I AM GOOD WITH THE TIMEFRAME . I AM GOOD WITH WHERE IT SITS. THERE IS DESIGN BUILT-IN, WHICH MR. WARE ALLUDED TO . MR. HAWKINS HAS TALKED ABOUT THAT ALSO. THERE IS THE DPCR PROCESS, THE SITE PLAN THAT CAN BE BUILT INTO THAT. THEN THERE ARE THE BUILDING PERMITS WHICH AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ALL HAVE TO MEET, SO -- THANK YOU. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK NOW THAT WE COME BACK AROUND FULL-CIRCLE TO THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENT. I FEEL COMFORTABLE IN WHAT I'VE HEARD TODAY AND SO THIS HAS BEEN A SHUTTLE DIPLOMACY EXPERIENCE. I AM READY . I AM READY FOR A MOTION. >> MADAM MAYOR , IT WOULD BE THE UPDATED SECOND AMENDMENT THAT YOU WOULD BE CONSIDERING WITH THE ADDITION OF THE B1 ADDITIONAL MOU . >> THANK YOU. SAYS SECOND AMENDMENT , AMENDED AND RESTATED . SHOULD I PUT UPDATED ? >> NO, MA'AM. IT DOES NOT NEED TO GO ON THERE. THE UPDATED ON THE AGENDA IS THAT VERSION. >> OKAY. >> UPDATED SECOND AMENDMENT WOULD BE THE ONE YOU ARE VOTING ON. >> UPDATED WITH THE NEW ATTACHMENT. IS THAT RIGHT? IS THERE A MOTION? >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND AMENDMENT WITH UPDATED ATTACHMENT B. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANTED? >> UPDATED SECOND AMENDMENT WITH ATTACHMENT B. >> I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK? >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES? TREND THREE >> COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON? >> NO. >> COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON? >> YES. >> MAYOR HUDSON? >> YES. >> WILL HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AT [12. City Commission Boards and Committees Updates] THE FPRA MEETING, CORRECT? >> YES, MA'AM . >> THANK YOU. >> NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA, CITY COMMISSION BOARD AND UPDATES . >> WHO WOULD LIKE TO START? >> I WILL. >> ALL RIGHT. >> IN AUGUST, I DON'T KNOW HOW GOOD THE FOOD WAS IN JULY, BUT MADAM MAYOR, YOU CAN TELL ME. THE RETIREMENT BOARD IS MEETING THIS WEEK AND THEY ARE GOING TO FUSS AT ME BECAUSE I AGREED WE DIDN'T HAVE A QUORUM LAST MONTH AND ME NOT READING MY CALENDAR , I AM NOT GOING TO BE THERE, COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. I AM GOING TO BE -- >> LEAGUE OF CITIES ? YOU MISSED THE LAST MEETING HERE. THAT WAS A GOOD ONE TO MISS TOO. >> I WATCHED IT . I WATCHED IT . I THOUGHT IT STARTED FRIDAY MORNING, BUT IT IS THURSDAY MORNING, SO I WON'T BE HERE. >> I WILL REPRESENT YOU WELL . >> I APPRECIATE IT. I APPRECIATE IT. THE HOMELESS TASK FORCE IS MEETING AND YOU WILL BE IMPRESSED . I ASKED THEM TO COME UP WITH A PRESENTATION ON WHAT'S GOING ON, SO I WILL SAVE THAT FOR THAT. OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE , I MISSED THAT MEETING BECAUSE I THINK I WAS ON THE ROAD HOWEVER I HAD MET WITH MR. KEVIN FREEMAN PRIOR TO TALKING ABOUT SOME TINY HOMES AND SOME VILLAGES AND OTHER IDEAS HE HAD . EXCUSE ME. THAT HE PRESENTED TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOARD. WE ARE COMING TOGETHER TO BRING BACK SOME IDEAS WHAT HE HAS A VISION FOR, SO THAT IS A GOOD THING. ROUNDTABLE . THAT IS HARD FOR ME TO MAKE. I HAVE ASKED THAT [03:40:04] WE CAN ADDRESS THAT AS ANOTHER TIME. AND THE COUNCIL OF AGING , YOU KNOW, THEY PUT IT ON MY CALENDAR AND I GET THERE AND I DON'T SEE THE PARKING LOT. I'M WALKING IN AND THE RECEPTIONIST IS LIKE, MR. GAINES, ARE YOU HERE TO SEE SOMEONE? THERE IS NO MEETING. I WAS LIKE, WHAT? THEY DIDN'T GIVE ME WORD. IT'S FINE. I TALKED TO STAFF THERE BUT THEY ARE ACTUALLY MOVING STRONG . THEY ARE FINDING SOME MORE FUNDING BECAUSE THEY LOST FUNDING. THEY ARE FINDING FUNDING AND STILL PROVIDING SERVICES TO THE ELDERLY IN FORT PIERCE AND ST. LUCIE COUNTY. WITH THAT, MADAM MAYOR , THOSE ARE MY BOARD UPDATES. AND THE LAST THING I WOULD LIKE TO DO, I WOULD LIKE TO WISH MY MOM A HAPPY BIRTHDAY TODAY. SHE IS NOT ONE THAT CARES ABOUT TELLING HER AGE, SO THE DAY SHE TURNS 84 , I JUST HOPE IF I MAKE IT TO 84, I CAN LOOK AS GOOD AND BE AS ACTIVE AS MY MOM AT 84 . HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MOM . >> HAPPY BIRTHDAY. ABSOLUTELY. COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON, DO YOU WANT TO GO NEXT ? >> I WILL BE BRIEF. WE ARE MEETING WEDNESDAY SO I WILL HAVE NEW UPDATES BUT LET'S SEE. WE HAD ABOUT AN 8.5% DECREASE IN REVENUES COLLECTED FOR THIS TIME LAST YEAR IN 2023 SO WE ARE DOWN ABOUT 8%, 8.5%. LET'S SEE. BUT WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE , BECAUSE THE OCCUPANCY, YOU KNOW, HOTEL PERFORMANCES WERE DOWN, BUT THE NIGHTLY STAYS WERE UP, YOU KNOW, IT IS A BALANCE BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT GOES DOWN A LITTLE BIT AFTER A HISTORIC YEAR LAST YEAR SO I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU ALL. I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR THE TOURISM COMPONENT. YOU CAN GET A TASTE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING BUT WITH THE ROOM NIGHT -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE I READ IT CORRECTLY. WHERE WAS THE -- ANYWAY, IT WAS UP SLIGHTLY . ANOTHER , YOU KNOW, HALF A ROOM NIGHT , HOWEVER THE AVERAGE THAT OUT . A MAJORITY OF THE VISITORS. 1.4 NIGHTS VERSUS 0.9 . LET'S SEE. WHAT IS THE AVERAGE? YES, UP ABOUT A PERCENT. A MAJORITY OF THE VISITORS IN STATE. NEW YORK, NEW JERSEY, PENNSYLVANIA. PRETTY TYPICAL. PRETTY COMMON FOR WHAT WE HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCING FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. THERE WAS ALSO A CAPITAL FUNDING REQUEST FOR $300,000 TO GO TOWARDS THE AIRPORT TERMINAL RENOVATION. THERE WAS A REQUEST AND ACCEPTANCE BY THE TDC TO PROVE THE $300,000 . >> THEY JUST DID THAT. >> IT WAS DONE IN 2011 , 2012. THERE WAS LITIGATION I WAS INVOLVED IN UNFORTUNATELY, SO THAT WAS MOVED PAST AND I THINK THEY'VE GOT NEW IDEAS WITH, YOU KNOW, THE AIRLINE. SO THAT IS ANOTHER INVESTMENT THERE. THAT'S ALL THAT IS SIGNIFICANT TO REPORT . I'VE GOT OTHERS, BUT VERY MINOR. >> REAL QUICK, AS COMMISSIONER GAINES STATED, THE RETIREMENT BOARD IS THIS THURSDAY SO WE WILL SEE WHAT'S GOING ON THERE AND WE WILL GIVE A REPORT AT THE NEXT MEETING. PARKING COMMITTEE MEETS THIS WEDNESDAY. NOTHING OVERLY EXCITING ON THE PARKING FRONT SO I'VE GOT NOTHING TO REPORT THERE. THE AGENDA FOR WEDNESDAY IS VERY LIGHT. ANY INTERESTING UPDATES, I WILL GIVE THEM TO YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING. SUNRISE THEATER BOARD IS MEETING TOMORROW SO I WILL BE IN ATTENDANCE FOR THAT. >> I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THAT EVENT. >> THAT AND I'M CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE RESPONSE IS FOR OUTSIDE . I WILL DO A LITMUS TEST ON THAT AND SEE WHAT THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS THERE. >> THE FOUNDATION HAS REALLY STEPPED UP FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN. REALLY A GREAT JOB . >> A COUPLE OF MEMBERS HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE RFP . >> EVALUATIONS, RIGHT? >> I THOUGHT IT WAS OUTSTANDING TO IMMERSE THE MINUTE , ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY'VE GOT SOME KNOWLEDGE . >> NOW THEY HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY AND RESPONSIBILITY TOO. IS THAT IT? >> COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON? >> THE FIRE BOARD MET LAST MONTH AND WE ELECTED A NEW TREASURER. I JUST WENT BLANK ON HIS NAME. TIM BERGERON . WE ARE [03:45:03] IN NEGOTIATIONS RIGHT NOW TRYING TO ONBOARD THAT. MAIN STREET DID NOT MEET LAST MONTH BUT I THINK WE HAVE A MEETING COMING UP HERE IN THE NEXT MONTH. MADAM MAYOR, I WILL LET YOU TALK ABOUT PLANNING . I MEAN, TPO . YOU HAVE GOOD NEWS TO BRING THERE. AND REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL MET BUT ALSO KIND OF CHANGED OUR SCHEDULE A LITTLE BIT AND WE HAVE SOME SUMMITS UPCOMING SO NOTHING TO REPORT THERE AS OF RIGHT NOW AND THAT IS IT FOR ME . >> I WILL TALK ABOUT THE TPO. GOOD NEWS . THE CONGESTION MANAGEMENT PROCESS, THEY MOVED UP 29TH STREET FOR TRAFFIC CALMING AND THAT IS VERY GOOD NEWS. THEY ALSO ARE GOING TO ADDRESS OLEANDER AT BELL AVENUE AND FARMERS MARKET ROAD BECAUSE OF THE CONGESTION THERE. SO THAT IS GOOD NEWS FOR FORT PIERCE. THAT IS ON THE LIST ALSO . AND THEY DID TALK ABOUT THE TURNPIKE AUTHORITY THAT WAS THERE AND TALKED ABOUT SOME EXCHANGES. YEEHAW JUNCTION AND A POSSIBLE FUTURE ONE FOR A ROAD THAT IS NOT BUILT BUT WILL CONNECT TO THE AIRPORT, SO THAT IS WAY IN THE FUTURE, LIKE MANY THINGS WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION . ALL OF MY OTHER COMMITTEES HAVE BEEN COVERED. I THINK THAT IS ALL I HAVE . AND SO IF THERE IS NOTHING ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER, I THINK WE ARE READY TO ADJOURN. WE ARE ADJOURNED. WE WILL BE LEAVING THE CHAMBERS AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO US -- * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.