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[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>>> PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

>> ALL RIGHT. REMINDER PLEASE TURN OFF OR SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES AND CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>>

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

CONSIDER. MOVING ON TO APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AND SECOND

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>

>> THAT IS A YES FROM ME.

>> YOUR NAME IS NOT ON THE LIST.

>> ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ALONG TO NEW BUSINESS. I DO NOT ANTICIPATE A VERY LONG MEETING TODAY, BUT I DON'T KNOW,

[a. Annexation - Guillermo Annexation - Parcel IDs: 2413-501-0176-000-6 and 2413-501-0288-000-3]

ESTHER FREEMAN MAY HAVE SOME SURPRISES. WE WILL START WITH ITEM 6-A. ANNEXATIONS. I WILL LET YOU READ OUT THE PARCEL NUMBERS.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON BOARD MEMBERS MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS AFTERNOON WE HAVE ANNEXATION GUILLERMO, APOLOGIES IF I MESSED THAT UP.

THE ANNEXATION, THE APPLICANT IS GUILLERMO AND THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE PARCEL IDS ARE 2413-501-0176-000-6 AND 2413-501- 0288 -000-3. REQUEST REVIEW FOR VOLUNTARY APPLICATION FOR ANNEXATION OF TWO PARCELS SUBMITTED LOCATED NEAR OR AT THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTH LOCATED NEAR OR AT THE INTERSECTION OF S. OCEAN DR. AND BLUE HERON BOULEVARD.

APPLICANT REQUESTING VOLUNTEER ANNEXATION OF THE PARCELS.

SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS ST. LUCIE COUNTY LAND USE RESIDENTIAL SUBURBAN AND ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF HUTCHINSON ISLAND DISTRICT THE PROPOSED CITY FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION RESIDENTIAL LOW RL ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF SINGLE-FAMILY LOW DENSITY R1. HERE IS THE SITE LOCATION OF THE PARCELS. PARCEL 1.19 ACRES, PARCEL TWO IS .19 ACRES COLLECTIVELY APPROXIMATELY .3 ACRES FOR BOTH PARCELS COMBINED.

PURSUANT TELECONFERENCE A PLAN POLICY 1.1.5 PROPERTY ANNEXED SHALL RECEIVE DESIGNATION COMPATIBLE WITH COUNTY LAND USE DESIGNATION UNLESS OTHERWISE APPROVED BY CITY COMMISSION.

STAFF WILL CONFIRM PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN UNINCORPORATED ST. LUCIE COUNTY CONTINUES TO FORWARD PIERCE BOUNDARY WITHIN SERVICE AREA. THE CURRENT VALUE OF BOTH PROPERTIES TOGETHER IS 37,400.

THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE IN THE COUNTY IS RESIDENTIAL SUBURBAN , RS . DEPICTED HERE IN THE SURROUNDING FUTURE LAND USE . WHICH IS IN THE CITY. SHOULD THE PROPOSED ANNEXATION APPROVE THE FUTURE LAND USE WOULD BE MODIFIED TO RL RESIDENTIAL, LOW DENSITY. EXISTING ZONING IS HIRD

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HUTCHINSON RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. SHOULD THE PROPOSED ANNEXATION BE ACCEPTED ZONING BE MODIFIED SINGLE-FAMILY LOW DENSITY R 1. STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE PLANNING BOARD TO MOVE PROPOSED ANNEXATION APPLICATION APPROVAL TO CITY COMMISSION ALTERNATIVE RECOMMENDATIONS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS OR RECOMMEND DISAPPROVAL. THANK

YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD OR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

>> QUESTION YOU SAID CONTINUOUS BUT THERE ARE LOTS

NEXT TO THEM, IS THAT COUNTY? >> THESE LOTS HERE?

>> THOSE NORTH AND SOUTH. >> THE PARCELS NORTH ARE CITY , SHOWN HERE. THIS HIGHLIGHTS WHAT CITY , EVERYTHING IN THE

COLOR IS CITY. >> THE OTHERS NEXT TO THEM ARE COUNTY? WHY CAN WE DO THE WHOLE LOT ?

>> WE COULD, IT WOULD NOT NEED MANDATORY ANNEXATION WHICH WOULD NEED , IN EFFECT, A MAJORITY ACCEPTANCE OF PROPERTY OWNERS DOWN THERE. IT IS A PROCESS. AT THE MOMENT WE DO NOT HAVE ANNEXATION AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY WHO WOULD BE A PARTNER TO ALLOW THIS. OR I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A MAJORITY OF PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE SECTION THAT WE WOULD SAY WE WOULD MARK THAT SECTION AND WE WOULD HAVE TO ALLOW THEM, ALMOST LIKE A MAJORITY VOTE OF THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS. IT IS CONTIGUOUS TO THE CITY TO THE EAST AND THAT'S WHY IT BECOMES

CONTIGUOUS. THE STREET. >> THIS BOTHERS ME BECAUSE THE ANNEX WOULD HELP US AND MY NEIGHBOR IS IN THE COUNTY AND I'M IN THE CITY, FRUSTRATING.

>> IT IS AND I HAVE SPOKEN, IN THE PAST, INTERNALLY ABOUT THE PUZZLE PIECE NATURE OF THE CITY AND WHAT IT DOES FOR THE SERVICE AREA. SERVICES PROVIDED AND IN ESSENCE RESIDENTS NOT FULLY AWARE OF IF THEY ARE IN THE CITY OR THE COUNTY. WE GET A LOT OF CALLS FROM FOLKS WHO LIVE ON STREETS WHICH HAVE A MAJORITY OF CITY PROPERTIES ON THEM, BUT THEY REMAIN IN THE COUNTY. IT IS NOT HAPPENING NOW. THE CITY COMMISSION WOULD NEED TO DISCUSS THE OVERALL POLICY AND DIRECT STAFF AND HAVE THE COUNTY WILLING TO ENGAGE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO END UP GOING OUT AND REQUEST THIS HAPPEN BY MANDATORY MEANS AND THEN FIND OUT THE COUNTY DOES NOT AGREE BECAUSE THEY COULD OBJECT AND THAT WOULD CAUSE A LOT OF ISSUES FOR THE

CITY, COUNTY RELATIONSHIP. >> THANK YOU.

>> THAT WAS A LOT OF WORDS TO TELL HIM NO.

>> I HAVE TO BE GENTLE SOMETIMES.

>> IT STILL HURT. >> ALL RIGHT ANYONE ELSE? WE LOOKED AT THIS BEFORE AND I THINK IT WAS HELPFUL TO VIEW THE LARGER PORTION OF THE MAP BECAUSE THERE ARE ADDITIONAL UNITS. YOU CAN SEE ONE OF THE LIGHTLY SHADED RED ONES AND THERE IS A ROW OF OTHER CITY PROPERTIES SOUTH. SO, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT SEEM LOOKING AT THE VIEW THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THE EDGE OF THE MAP, THE CITY BOUNDARY BUT THERE ARE PROPERTIES FURTHER TO THE SOUTH THAT ARE ALREADY ANNEXED IN. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? PLEASE COME FORWARD AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF, SIGN IN AND THE BOARD MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

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>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS I'M REQUESTING THE ANNEXATION. TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

>> TWO QUESTIONS, NUMBER ONE DO YOU PLAN TO MERGE INTO ONE LOT IN MY OTHER QUESTION IS WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE

>> I DON'T PLAN TO MERGE THEM, THEIR GOOD-SIZED LOTS, I HAVE TWO DAUGHTERS AND THEY KEEP THOSE, ONE FOR EACH. I PLAN TO BUILD A NICE HOME THERE. I PLAN TO MOVE IN A FEW YEARS TO THE AREA. VERY MUCH LIKE THE AREA. SO , I AM LUCKY TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE THOSE, THAT'S THE REASON WHY I AM TRYING TO DO THIS.

>> THEY ARE GREAT LOTS. >> AS MR. FRIEDMAN POINTED OUT, WITH THE SURROUNDING LOTS IN THE AREA HAVE YOU BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH ANY OF THE NEIGHBORING OWNERS, AS FAR AS PROCEEDING WITH GETTING UTILITIES TO YOUR PROPERTY OR

ANYTHING LIKE THAT? >> I HAVE NOT. I HAVE SPOKEN TO SOMEONE ACROSS THE STREET WHERE THE RESTAURANT IS LOCATED, THEY MENTIONED ALL SERVICES COME FROM THE CITY , I THINK. I MEAN, IT WOULD BE OKAY TO REQUEST, BUT I HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO THE NEIGHBORING LOT OWNERS. I KNOW THE THREE NORTH OF MINE WERE RECENTLY PURCHASED BY SOMEONE. I MAY BE ABLE TO CONTACT THEM BUT I HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO THEM AT THIS POINT, BUT I THINK THEY PLAN TO DO BUSINESS FROM THE REALTOR , THAT WAS LAST YEAR. I THINK THE PLAN TO BUILD VERY SOON.

>> HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE A GOOD EXPERIENCE AND YOU CAN RECOMMEND ANNEXATION TO THEM WHEN THEY ARE READY TO MOVE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME WE WILL ALLOW FOR ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS APPLICATION. SEEING ON, SEND IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR REMAINING COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, HEARING THAT I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION FOR APPROVAL AND SECOND , PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>>

[b. Final Plat - Gator Trace on The Greens - 4150 and 4200 Gator Trace Road]

RIGHT MOVING ON SIX B FINAL PLAT GATOR TRACE. THE

PRESENTATIONS. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. PLANNING CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS. BEFORE YOU, WE HAVE A FINAL PLAT APPLICATION FOR THE SUBJECT PARCEL IDS LISTED. LOCATED AT 4150 AND 4200 GATOR TRACE 4150 AND 4200 GATOR TRACE RD. THE APPLICANT IS REQUEST OF THIS APPLICATION IS TO SUBDIVIDE THE PARCELS INTO 67 PLATTED RESIDENTIAL LOTS, TWO TRACKS, ONE OPEN SPACE TRACK AND ONE RECREATION TRACK AND ASSOCIATED EASEMENT AND BUFFERS FOR THE SUBJECT SITE WHICH IS 6.94 ACRES. THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT SITE LOCATED WITHIN THE GATOR TRACE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT ALONG EAST ALONG E. WEATHERBY RD.

ALONG E. WEATHERBY RD. THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING.

THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE FOR SUBJECT PROPERTY IS R M AND PUD KNOWN AS PLANNING DEVELOPMENT PD. THIS IS THE FINAL PLAT. YOU

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CAN SEE THE TWO ROADWAYS AND THE ADDITION OF THE TRACK. AND THE OFFERS.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST WITH TWO CONDITIONS. THE CONDITIONS ARE THE APPLICANT SUBMIT TWO SETS OF MYLAR FOR APPROPRIATE SIGNATURE AND THE PLAT IS RECORDED WITH THE CLERK OF COURTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATUTE 177.111 AND NUMBER TWO PRIOR TO THE FINAL ENDORSEMENT OF THE PLAT BY THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FOLLOWING ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS MUST BE PERMITTED TO THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT FOR THE LISTED ITEMS ABCD. NUMBER ONE IS A BOND ISSUED MAY 9, 2023. THE AMOUNT OF $872,353.90. AND B WOULD BE CERTIFICATE ISSUED AUGUST 16, 2024 WHICH EXTENDS THE EXPIRATION DATE OF THE BOND UNTIL MAY 9, 2025. AND C, BOND ISSUE JULY 11, 2020 FOR INCREASING THE VALUE OF THE BOND TO 872,353 $.90 $1,202,841 AND THE BOND WRITER ISSUED ON AUGUST 29, 2020 FOR INCREASING THE VALUE OF THE BOND FROM $1,202,841.20, UP TO 1,000,100 1,113,000 $1,113,661 . WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL BECAUSE IT IS CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 121 COMP PLAN AND THE PROPOSED PLAN DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND IT IS NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, CONVENIENCE OR GENERAL WELFARE. PLANNING BOARD ACTIONS ARE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

STAFF RECOMMENDED TWO CONDITIONS, RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH ALTERNATIVE CONDITIONS OR DENIAL, THANK

YOU. >> THANK YOU, ALL RIGHT QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

>> FOR CONTEXT YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH MAYBE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF PRIOR HISTORY ON THE APPLICATION BECAUSE THIS CAME UP WITH THE BOARD NOT LONG AGO.

>> IF THE BOARD CAN RECALL. IT WAS AN APPLICATION TO AMEND THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS PHASE OF GATOR TRACE WHICH HAD APPROVAL, UNDERLYING APPROVAL FOR 67 HOMES. THE APPLICANT THAT CAME INTO AMEND THAT WAS POOR, I THINK, 84 UNITS. I BELIEVE THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AT THAT TIME. IT WENT TO CITY COMMISSION. THE CITY COMMISSION , BASED ON THE UNDERLYING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ATTACHED TO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT RECOMMENDED THAT THE 84, DID THEY DENY THAT? THEY DENIED THE 84 AND RECOMMENDED THAT , THE HOUSING NUMBERS, THE DWELLING UNITS BE CONSISTENT WITH UNDERLYING PLAN DEVELOPMENT , WHICH IS, NOW YOU CAN SEE THE 67 UNITS CONSISTENT WITH A NUMBER WHICH WAS ALLOCATED ON THE ORIGINAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT REMOVES THAT REQUIREMENT TO AMEND THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. NO OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> SO WE ARE NOT ACTUALLY CHANGING THE ORIGINAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT TO COME BACK TO THE PROCESS?

>> THEY APPROVED AS A MINOR SITE PLAN BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF UNITS WERE THE SAME AND THE LEVEL OF AMENDMENT FITS UNDER THE THRESHOLD OF WHAT THE AMENDMENT REQUIRES FOR THE PLANNING BOARD AND CITY COMMISSION ACTION. SO THE MAIN AREA OF CONSIDERATION, DOESN'T INCREASE THE NUMBER OF UNITS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT? IT DOES NOT. DOES IT CHANGE SUBSTANTIALLY THE STORMWATER SYSTEM OR ROADWAY SYSTEM, IT DOES NOT. THE CRITERIA WERE REVIEWED BY STAFF AND WERE

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FOUND TO MEET DOES NOT REQUIRE MAJOR AMENDMENT TO THE PD

CRITERIA. >> THANK YOU.

>> DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE? PLEASE COME FORWARD IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE INFORMATION YOU WANT TO SHARE OTHER THAN

WHAT WAS SHARED WITH US. >> THINK YOU DON'T NEED TO STATE MY NAME? STAFF I AM THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND ONE OF THE ENGINEERS AND GENERAL CONTRACTORS. WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN 2022 AND SINCE THEN WE ARE TRYING TO GET APPROVAL.

I WAS BEFORE YOUR BOARD 12 MONTHS AGO EVEN THOUGH THE PROJECT GOT APPROVAL IN THE PAST THE PLANS WERE NOT BUILDABLE, THE CIVIL PLANS WERE MISSING DETAILS AND THERE WAS NO LENS GIVING PLAN, THERE IS NO FIRE PLAN REVIEW. SO I AM A ENGINEER, I CANNOT GO TO THE PROJECT WITHOUT UNKNOWNS. WE REORGANIZED THE UNIT LOCATIONS, ORGANIZED THE BUILDING UNITS AND WE DID THE WHOLE THING FROM SCRATCH FROM 83 BUT WE WERE DENIED BY THE CITY COMMISSION AND AFTER I REDUCED EVERYTHING TO REQUEST APPROVAL TO START WHAT I LEFT IS OFF, HOPEFULLY IF I GET APPROVAL AND WE WILL START CONSTRUCTION AS SOON AS

POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE

APPLICANT? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE, NO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC I WILL SEND IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS, QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS. HEARING ON. I

WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. WITH TWO

CONDITIONS. >> MOTION TO APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS. AND SECOND, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>>

[c. Zoning Text Amendment - Chapter 121 – Subdivisions - Preliminary Plat Procedures]

EVERYONE. MOVING ON ITEMS 6-C. ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT. MR.

FREEMAN HAS THE PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR AND GOOD AFTERNOON BOARD. THIS IS A VERY SIMPLE TEXT AMENDMENT WE ARE PROPOSING TO THE EXISTING PLAT PROCESS. SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE BEEN ON THE BOARD WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE PLAT PROCESS IN THE PAST AND REARRANGE THAT PROCESS , TO MOVE THE PRELIMINARY PLAT TO A VOLUNTARY PROCESS AND MOVE MOST OF THE WORK JOHN TO THE PLAT FOR THE FINAL PROCESS WHICH MADE MORE SENSE. PART OF THAT WAS DONE TO ALLOW APPLICANTS TO COME IN FOR A PRELIMINARY PLAT IN A FASTER WAY SO THAT THEY COULD GET A GENERAL IDEA OF HOW THE SITE WOULD BE LAID OUT AND THEN BE ABLE TO MOVE ON TO DO SOME INITIAL BUILDING PERMITS.

ALL OF THAT HINGING ON THE ALLOWANCE FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER TO ALLOCATE PARCEL IDS TO THE PARCELS AND THAT WAS THE IDEA. WE FOUND, ON THE FIRST IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT, THE PROPERTY APPRAISER WOULD NOT ALLOCATE PARCEL IDS TO PRELIMINARY PLAN MAPS. WE HAVE SINCE HAD A NUMBER OF MEETINGS WITH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER AND WORK OUT A SOLUTION IN WHAT THEY WOULD WANT TO SEE IN A PLAT , A PRELIMINARY PLAT TO BE REPORTED AND SO FORTH. WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED BACK INTO THE CODE, SO HOPEFULLY WHEN WE DO THAT AND APPLICANTS COME IN TO DO A PRELIMINARY PLAT, THE CODE ALLOWS THAT TO HAPPEN NOW AND THE PROPERTY APPRAISER WOULD BE MORE ABLE , CANNOT GUARANTEE, TO SIGN A PARCEL ID TO PARCELS AND USUALLY IT IS IN A MASTER DEVELOPMENT WITH A LARGE NUMBER OF PARCELS AND YOU HAVE A MAJOR

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DEVELOPER COMING IN TO START A PHASE OF THAT BY CONSTRUCTING SOME LOT RELATED TO STRUCTURE SO THAT BUILDING WILL NEED TO ALLOCATE , BUILDING PERMIT NUMBERS TO THE PARTICULAR LOT NUMBERS WHICH PREVIOUSLY THAT NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO. WE ARE HOPING THAT SATISFIES THAT SITUATION AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE PROPOSING THIS AMENDMENT TO THIS CODE. IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> ALL RIGHT. SO, HOUSEKEEPING ON OUR END WITHOUT THE GUARANTEE THAT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER WILL BE ABLE TO COMPLETE THINGS ON THEIR END , BUT THE INTENTION IS THERE.

>> YES, WE HAVE DISCUSSED WITH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO GET IRONED OUT AS MANY ISSUES AS WE THOUGHT MAY COME INTO PLAY. WE CANNOT THINK OF EVERYTHING, WE NEVER CAN. BUT IT STILL RETAINS THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AS A VOLUNTARY OPTION ANYWAY. SO IT IS NOT A MANDATORY THING THAT USED TO BE THE CASE. SO WE DID NOT HAVE ANY BENEFIT FOR ANYBODY TO HAVE THAT AS A MANDATORY PART OF THE PROCESS BECAUSE THEY STILL HAVE TO DO THE FINAL PLAT BEFORE YOU CAN GET THE PERMITS ANYWAY. THIS JUST ALLOWS THE POTENTIAL OF THINGS MOVING FORWARD QUICKER .

>> ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY OTHER NEIGHBORING MUNICIPALITIES WITH

SIMILAR PLANS IN PLACE? >> I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE SYSTEMS THEY HAVE INTERNALLY. WE WERE UNUSUAL IN THAT WE HAD THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT ESTABLISHED. THIS WAS MANDATORY AND QUITE DETAILED IN ITS NATURE. SO THE THOUGHT WAS INITIALLY, CAN WE REVERSE THE PROCESS? MOST MUNICIPALITIES, IF THEY HAVE A PRELIMINARY PLAT YOU WOULD THINK IT IS A SKETCH.

IT FALLS BEFORE THE MASTER OR FINAL TO THAT'S WHEN THE DETAILS ARE USUALLY DRAWN AND CONFIDENT AND LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS ARE DEFINITELY THOSE LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS. SO WE HAD A REVERSE PROCESS IN TERMS OF WHAT PEOPLE REVENUE GO THROUGH. THE INITIAL INTENT WAS LET'S PUT THE EMPHASIS WHERE IT SHOULD BE IN THE FINAL. ALLOW PRELIMINARY TO BE A PRELIMINARY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT, BUT IT'S USEFUL FOR DEVELOPERS TO SET OUT LOTS AND STOP VARIOUS WORKS AND DEDICATE PARCELS IF THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. AND THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE HAD TO MOVE THAT AROUND. I AM NOT CERTAIN IN TERMS OF HOW THE PROPERTY APPRAISER DEALS WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. IT SEEMS TO BE WHATEVER PROCESS WE HAD DID NOT WORK. LETTER THAT'S PART OF THE SYSTEM WE HAVE IN PLACE THAT REQUIRES PARCEL ID TO BE ALLOCATED FOR A BUILDING PERMIT, WE DON'T USE TEMPORARY REFERENCE POINTS FOR THAT, ONCE WE HAVE A PARCEL ID THAT STAYS THE PARCEL IF THERE IS A BUILDING PERMIT AND THAT WORKS BETTER FOR RECORD-KEEPING.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANY OF THE QUESTIONS ? OKAY. THERE IS NO ONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM FROM THE PUBLIC SO ONE LAST CHANCE FROM THE BOARD TO DIVE INTO THIS ETERNALLY

FASCINATING SUBJECT. >> UNDERSTAND THIS STUFF IS VERY DRY, BUT IT IS ALSO NECESSARY. I HAVE BEEN ON THE DESIGN PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPER SITE OF THIS ISSUE ON MANY PROJECTS . THE INCENTIVE FOR THE DEVELOPER TO GET PERMITS EARLY AND START MOVING DIRT IS VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE IT HELPS , YOU KNOW IT HELPS GET THE OCESS IT ALSO HELPS THE MONEY START MAKING SENSE. IT HELPS KEEP THESE PROJECTS ON TRACK SO I THINK THIS IS A VERY GOOD THING YOU HAVE DONE TO RUN THIS DOWN AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL SEE THIS BE OF BENEFIT TO DEVELOPERS IN THE CITY IN THE FUTURE. SO THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME I WILL

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ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MOTION.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION TO APPROVE AND

SECOND, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>

[d. Zoning Text Amendment - Chapter 125-314 – Architectural Design Standards ]

>> ALL RIGHT. LAST ITEM OF NEW BUSINESS SIX D TEXT AMENDMENT ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS.

>> KNOW YOU HAVE HEARD ME TALK ABOUT WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO AND WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT AND HOW IT LOOKS IN FORT PIERCE. WE HAVE HAD MANY DISCUSSIONS AS A BOARD BETWEEN BOARD AND STAFF WHEN WE HAVE APPLICATIONS COMING THROUGH ABOUT WHAT PARAMETERS CAN WE PUT ONTO A BUILDING DESIGN TO MAKE IT FEEL MORE LIKE IT IS LOCATED IN FORT PIERCE AND NOT IN SOME OTHER PLACE. THAT IS A GENTLE STATEMENT. SO, I THINK YOU WANTED HAVE THIS FORT PIERCE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS BOOKLET WITHIN YOUR AGENDA ITEM. IN ESSENCE, THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO SET OUT WHAT KIND OF QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENT WE ARE GOING TO GET IN THE CITY AND TO HELP , THE DESIGN PROFESSIONALS TALK TO THE CLIENTS AND SAY THIS IS WHAT THE CITY WANTS, LET'S DO SOMETHING THAT COMPLIES WITH THE CODE AND THAT'S THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THIS. TO LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE AS GUIDELINES AND MANUFACTURE THOSE INTO STANDARDS. WITHOUT BEING TOO HARSH ON , IN FIXING THE PARAMETERS OF DESIGN. SO WE LOOK TO THE DESIGN GUIDELINES AND WE BROKE THEM DOWN INTO VARIOUS CATEGORIES OF STYLES. THAT WE DO SEE IN THE CITY. AND WE WILL COME FORWARD WITH MORE AMENDMENTS TO THESE STANDARDS AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO DESCRIBE IN MORE ILLUSTRATIONS OR PHOTOGRAPHS, THE SORT OF DESIGNS THAT THE PLANNING BOARD WOULD SEE AS BEING MORE APPROPRIATE. IN TERMS OF WHAT WE WANT TO SEE, IN THE CITY. IT WILL BECOME A STANDARD. WHEN WE HAVE TRIED TO DO IS BUILDING SOME FLEXIBILITY. SO WE HAVE SOME THINGS THAT THE PLANNING BOARD AND STAFF CAN NEGOTIATE ON AND GET TO A DESIGN THAT'S APPROPRIATE. WE ARE VALLEY -- VERY WELL AWARE OF THE POTENTIAL COSTS THAT THIS TYPE OF STANDARDIZATION OF ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS CAN PUT ON BUILDING WITH COSTS AND DEVELOPMENT COST. THIS IS WHY WE ARE SETTING OUT SOME GENERAL ARCHITECTURAL STYLES, BUT ALLOWING THE DEVELOPER TO LOOK AND SAY THESE ARE THE ELEMENTS THAT WE THINK WOULD ADDRESS THE STYLES YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, NOT NECESSARILY FIXING THOSE AS MANDATORY. SO WE LOOK TO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN FORT PIERCE AND WHAT'S THE HISTORY OF FORT PIERCE AND DO WE SEE IN TERMS OF GENERAL ARCHITECTURAL STYLES. THESE ARE STYLES YOU CAN SEE RUN FLORIDA BUT WE DO SOMETIMES HAVE OUR OWN INTERPRETATIONS OF THESE IN THE CITY. THE SIX, THERE ARE SIX GENERAL STYLES AND WE LEFT THOSE STYLES BROUGHT AND THAT IS DONE TO ALLOW FOR A WIDE RANGE OF INDIVIDUAL IDENTITY OPTIONS AND FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF ARCHITECTURE WHEN IT GOES THROUGH POTENTIAL IMPROVABLE. YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF THIS AND I WILL GO THROUGH SOME EXAMPLES OF THESE STYLES AND I HAVE TO GIVE CREDIT TO GOOGLE EARTH. SO I DROVE THROUGH THE CITY ON GOOGLE EARTH DURING BY LUNCH. AND PULLED OUT SOME EXAMPLES OF BUILDINGS THAT YOU WOULD SEE THAT WOULD BE , RELATIVE TO THE STYLES WE ARE TRYING TO GAIN IN FORT PIERCE AND THESE WOULD START TO LOOK FAMILIAR, THESE ARE EXISTING BUILDINGS IN THE CITY. MAYBE NOW IF YOU DRIVE AROUND YOU WILL BE ABLE TO PULL

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THESE STYLES OUT AND SAY I DID NOT REALIZE WE HAD THAT SORT OF BUILDING AND SOME OF THESE STYLES MAY SURPRISE YOU THAT WE DO HAVE THESE BUILDINGS. NOT SO MUCH THE SOUTH FLORIDA STYLE WHICH YOU WILL SEE PRIMARILY HAS A LOT OF PORCH AREA, BALCONIES, PITCHED ROOFS AND THAT SORT OF THING THAT IS A GENERAL STYLE. WE SET OUT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE ARE EXPECTING AND AGAIN NOT NECESSARILY DIMENSIONAL APART FROM THE ROOF SLOPE, ALL THE OTHER ELEMENTS BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE MEETING A DIMENSION WHICH GIVES SOME FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF DESIGN AND ORIENTATION. SOUTH FLORIDA STYLE, ANGLO CARIBBEAN STYLE. AGAIN SOME OF THE MOST EASY ON THE EYE BUILDINGS YOU WILL SEE WILL BE THESE STYLES. MEDITERRANEAN-STYLE. I DID NOT SHOW IT HERE, BUT THERE ARE , LOOK AT THE RENAISSANCE BUILDING DOWNTOWN. THAT IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF A MEDITERRANEAN-STYLE. AND YOU CAN SEE MOST OF THE NEWER BUILDINGS DOWNTOWN LOOK TO MEET THAT SORT OF VISUAL IMPRESSION . CLASSICAL STYLE AND YOU WILL SEE THE BUILDINGS WITH SOME ON ORANGE AVENUE AS A BIT OF CLASSICAL STYLE WITH THE BIG COLUMNS THAT COME DOWN AND THESE ARE LANDMARK BUILDINGS WITH A LOT OF IMPRESSIVE BUILDINGS, I THINK WE SEE A LOT OF CHURCHES IN THIS STYLE TO GIVE THAT PARTY ON THE STREET.

THE ART DECO STYLE . IF YOU'RE NOT LOOKING YOU DON'T NOTICE IT. WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF THIS STYLE BUILDING IN THE CITY.

LOOKING THROUGH GOOGLE EARTH I WAS SURPRISED I SELF TO FIND SOME RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS IN THIS STYLE AND IT IS QUITE DISTINCTIVE AND THESE ARE TAKEN OFF OF U.S. 1. PEOPLE DRIVE BY THESE ALL THE TIME WITHOUT NOTICING THEY'RE THERE.

MASONRY MODERN IS MORE OF A MODERN STYLE, USED FOR GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS AND YOU CAN SEE THE FEDERAL COURTHOUSE USES THAT STYLE. THAT MAY BE USEFUL, FOR A LARGER COMMERCIAL TYPE ACTIVITY OR GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY. SO, THOSE ARE THE BASIC STYLES WE ARE TRYING TO DIRECT PEOPLE TO. THAT'S NOT THE END OF IT, THIS IS A FLEXIBLE PROCESS AND YOU WILL SEE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF GUIDES IN TERMS OF THE STANDARDS OF WHAT THE STANDARDS WILL REFER TO. SO WE ARE EXPECTING DESIGN WHEN IT COMES IN, TO EXPLAIN TO THE STAFF AND THE PLANNING BOARD HOW THEY HAVE MET THESE STANDARDS ON WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE WITH THEIR IMPRESSION AND HOW DOES IT MEET THE CHARACTER OF FORT PIERCE. SO THERE IS THAT AND THE WAY WE HAVE DONE THIS IS CREATE THIS SEPARATE BOOKLET STANDARDS AS ADOPTED. SO AT ANY TIME WE COULD AMEND THESE, COME TO THE PLANNING BOARD AND AMEND HOW THESE READ OR LOOK BASED ON EXPERIENCES WE HAVE HAD AS A PLANNING BOARD WITH FEEDBACK AND WE DON'T NEED TO CHANGE THE CODE, THE CODE WOULD RELATE TO THIS BOOKLET BY REFERENCE TO THE BOOKLET. SO WE WOULD CHANGE THE CODE WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING HERE AND ADOPT THE FORT PIERCE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS. THOSE OF THE DIFFERENT ACTIONS RELATED TO EACH OTHER. WE CANNOT CHANGE THE CODE AND REFER TO SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT EXIST SO WE ARE ASKING FOR THIS TO BE DONE AT THE SAME AFTER THAT TO BE UNDERSTOOD THAT THE CODE WOULD BE IN PLACE, REFER TO THE DOCUMENT BY REFERENCE SO THE TITLE WOULD BE IN THE CODE AND THE CODE WOULD SAY AS AMENDED FOR THIS DOCUMENT. SO AT ANY TIME THE DOCUMENT CAN BE AMENDED AND IT WOULD NOT NEED AN AMENDMENT TO THE CODE. IT WOULD JUST NEED AMENDMENT TO THE DOCUMENT. SO THAT IS, STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING WE MOVE THIS

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TO THE CITY COMMISSION WHERE THEY HAVE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS I WILL BE HAPPY TO

TRY TO ANSWER THEM. >> WOULD YOU FORESEE AMENDMENTS TO THE STANDARDS DOCUMENT BEING DONE ON A REGULAR OR ANNUAL LEVEL? SO WHATEVER VERSION OF THE DOCUMENT APPLICABLE AT THE

TIME THE PERMIT IS APPLIED. >> SO WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE DID IS MAYBE AFTER WE HAVE HAD A PLANNING BOARD MEETING, DURING THE MEETING WE WOULD DISCUSS IF SOME OF THESE THINGS HAVE COME UP, HOW THE PLANNING BOARD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO USE THAT OR HAD DIFFICULTY USING IT AND THEN LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT AND SAY IF WE HAVE THAT CHANGE TO THE DOCUMENT THAT WOULD'VE MADE MORE SENSE OR EASIER. THEN WE START TO GENERATE A LIBRARY. I WOULD LIKE TO INCORPORATE MORE EXAMPLES OF DESIGNS THAT HAVE BEEN WELL RECEIVED. BY THE PLANNING BOARD INTO THIS DOCUMENT. ARCHITECTS, DEVELOPERS AND APPLICANTS WILL HAVE A BETTER REFERENCE OF WHAT'S EXPECTED WHEN THEY COME FORWARD. WHICH WE DON'T HAVE NOW, WE HAVE GUIDELINES WITH THE ENFORCEMENT OF THOSE VERY DIFFICULT AND PEOPLE DO DESCRIBE THEM IN DIFFERENT

WAYS. >> I MEAN, WE HAVE HAD THAT EXPERIENCE ON THE BOARD, MANY TIMES. SUGGESTIONS TO ARCHITECTS AND DEVELOPERS AND SOMETIMES THEY ACQUIESCE TO THE REQUESTS AND SOMETIMES NOT. I LIKE THE IDEA OF ADOPTING THE STANDARD . THE OBVIOUS DRAW BACK IS THAT, IT IS MORE REGULATION. AS YOU ADDRESS THE POTENTIAL FOR INCREASED COST, THE NEED FOR BUILDING FLEXIBILITY IS VERY IMPORTANT.

ONE THING I DID NOT SEE IN HERE, WHICH MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER WOULD BE THE LIGHTING ORDINANCE. WHICH IS NOT UNCOMMON TO SEE BOTH FOR REQUIREMENTS AND CERTAIN AREAS OF SAFETY AND SECURITY, BUT ALSO, FOR COLOR CONFORMITY.

COLOR TEMPERATURE OF BUILDING LIGHTING AND ELEMENTS OF THE BUILDING THAT FACE THE STREET WHICH CAN BE VERY HELPFUL IN CREATING CONTINUITY. MAKING SURE THE LIGHTS ARE THE SAME SO WE ARE NOT GETTING THESE BRIGHT LIGHTS NEXT TO THEM WITH SOFTER YELLOW LIGHTING. SO, THOSE WERE MY ONLY COMMENT FOR THE DOCUMENT. I REALLY LIKED IT. I THINK IT IS A GOOD STEP FORWARD. HOW DO YOU GUYS FEEL?

>> I LOVE IT, THE IDEA. WHAT ABOUT THE BIG HOTELS OR SOMETHING THAT WANT TO COME IN THAT ARE LIKE, USE MARRIOTT OR SOMETHING AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN STYLE. IT STILL FLEXIBLE ENOUGH TO ALLOW THAT? WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE PEOPLE COMING IN.

>> THAT'S THE BIG POINT HERE. WE UNDERSTAND CORPORATIONS AND LARGE ENTITIES HAVE THEIR OWN PROTOTYPES AND TEMPLATES AND STYLE AND THEY WANT THEIR BRAND CARRIED THROUGH TO WHEN THEY BUILD SOMETHING. THAT'S WHY WE THINK OFFERING THIS FLEXIBILITY , BUT ENCOURAGING AND BRANDS HAVE DIFFERENT DESIGNS AND YOU WILL SEE , THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE IN FORT PIERCE. WE WILL HAVE A CORPORATE DESIGN COME IN AND IT WILL BE THE BASE DESIGN. IT WILL NOT INCLUDE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE ON THE CATALOG AND IT TAKES US SQUEEZING THEM IN SOME OF THE WAYS WE CAN TO GET THEM TO ADD BALCONIES OR DO SOME CHANGING MATERIALS OR ARTICULATION CHANGES TO BRING UP THE ARCHITECTURE SO IT'S NOT JUST A FLAT BOX. YES, IT LOOKS AT STYLES AND SAYS THESE ARE THE CELLS WE HAVE IN THE CITY, BUT WE ARE NOT RESTRICTING YOUR ARCHITECTURE TO THOSE STYLES SO IF YOU HAVE CORPORATE IDENTITY, WHEN YOU SEE A MARRIOTT FOR EXAMPLE, GO ONLINE AND SEARCH MARRIOTT HOTELS AND YOU'LL GET A WIDE VARIETY OF ARCHITECTURAL STYLES

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THAT THEY HAVE ON THE BOOK. HAVE A CATALOG AND THEY BRING THEM FORWARD BASED ON THE CITY THEY ARE IN, ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN REQUIREMENTS , WHAT DOES THE CITY HAVE? SO IT MAKES PEOPLE THINK BEFORE THEY SUBMIT OF HOW THEY CAN GET THROUGH THE PROCESS FASTER. IF THEY HAVE SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS THAT CAN MEET THESE THINGS THAN THEY CAN SAY WE DESIGNED THIS SPECIFICALLY FOR PORT FEARS AND THAT'S THE SORT OF THING I WANT ARCHITECTS AND DESIGNERS TO THINK ABOUT. TAKE AWAY FROM THE BASELINE AND UNDERLYING GIVE US RESPECT IN TERMS OF THE CITY ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT TO BUILD HERE.

>> YEAH, I WANTED TO MAKE A POINT IN LOOKING AT THIS ONE SPECIFIC ELEMENT ON PAGE 7. ITEM B TALKING ABOUT THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE HORIZONTAL LENGTH AND HEIGHT IN THE BUILDINGS BEFORE BEING BROKEN UP BY SOME ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE OR WINDOW. IT IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT THING. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE EXAMPLES LIKE U.S. 1. WITHOUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS SOMEBODY COULD EASILY JUST DEVELOP A BUILDING THAT HAS NO AESTHETIC OR VISUAL APPEAL ON A MAJOR HIGHLY VISIBLE ROADWAY IN THE CITY. SO THAT KIND OF SPECIFICITY, IT IS IMPORTANT AND PRESCRIPTIVE, BUT ALSO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN COMPLY WITH THAT REGULATION.

>> EXACTLY AND THAT WAS THE CONCERN. WE HAD THAT SPECIFIC DISCUSSION LOOKING AT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND WHAT REQUIREMENTS THEY PUT IN FOR THIS TYPE OF THING. HOW DID THEY MEASURE WHEN THE BUILDING SHOULD CHANGE SHAPE IN TERMS OF ITS PLANE . SOME OF THOSE WERE VERY SPECIFIC. SOME OF THOSE ÚWERE VERY SPECIFIC IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH IT CAME OUT AND WHAT THE DISTANCE WAS, BUT WE DID NOT WANT TO PUT THAT SPECIFICITY INTO THE REGULATIONS, BUT JUST POINT OUT THAT THESE WIDE-RANGING STANDARDS SHOULD STILL BE COMPLIED WITH, WHICH WILL GIVE US ARTICULATION AND HOPEFULLY HAVING DONE THAT, THE ARCHITECT OR DESIGNER MAY INCLUDE MORE THAN WHAT WE ARE SAYING. THAT'S ALWAYS THE HOPE, BUT RARELY HAVE SO YOU KNOW I THINK WE ARE HOPING TO PUT THIS IN PLACE TO START THE STANDARD, TO GET THE PLANNING BOARD MORE AWARE OF HOW DESIGNS CAN SET THE TONE OF A CITY AND ALSO SET THE PRIDE OF THE CITY AND IDENTITY. THAT'S BEEN MY DISAPPOINTMENT WHEN I SEE THINGS COMING THROUGH. IT DID NOT HAVE THE ARMORY IF YOU LIKE TO TAKE SOMEBODY AND SAY THAT'S NOT

WHAT WE WANT TO SEE. >> TO CLARIFY THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF WHAT WE ARE DOING. SO IN A SINGLE VOTE TO DETERMINE RECOMMENDATION OR NOT FOR BOTH THE GUIDELINE AS IT STANDS AND NECESSARY ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT TO MAKE IT ENFORCED. IS THE INTENTION ASSUMING APPROVAL ASSUMING THE COMMISSION DOES AS WELL, WHEN THIS GOES INTO EFFECT, THE DOCUMENT BECOMES ENFORCEABLE EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY?

>> IT IS STILL GOING THROUGH CITY ATTORNEY CONSIDERATION OF HOW THE LANGUAGE WORKS. I HAVE DONE IT THIS WAY I HAVE SEEN IT DONE THIS WAY BEFORE, AND LIMITING THIS WAY BEFORE AND I HAVE SEEN THE SUCCESS THAT CAN HAVE IN TERMS OF HAVING STANDARDS TO REINFORCE YOUR DECISIONS.

>> VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> FOR RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL? SO FOR INSTANCE IF THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS HERE TO GET HIS PLAT ANNEXED IF YOU WANTED TO BUILD A HOUSE TO PROVE THIS HE WOULD HAVE TO

FOLLOW THESE DESIGN ? >> I THINK IN THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION. FROM THE STATE STATUTE NOW, SO I WILL REFER TO THE STATE STATUTE, STATE STATUTE DOES NOT ALLOW US AS A

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CITY OR PLANNING ENTITY TO PUT ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS ON SINGLE-FAMILY OR DUPLEX HOLDINGS UNLESS TWO THINGS OCCUR. ONE, THAT WE HAVE STANDARDS IN THE FIRST PLACE WHICH WE DO NOT NOW AND TWO THAT THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN A DESIGNATED COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA. SO I BELIEVE THE PROPERTY THAT CAME IN MIGHT BE OUTSIDE. IT IS OUTSIDE OF THE CRA SO WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO UNDER, STATE STATUTE IMPOSE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN ON THAT. WE TRY AND GIVE ADVICE , AT THE SAME TIME WE ALSO SAY UNDER STATE STATUTE WE CANNOT ENFORCE ANYTHING. WHICH HAS BEEN AN ISSUE. LET ME TAKE YOU TO THE INFO LOTS AT LINKIN PARK WHEN WE GET APPLICATIONS COMING THROUGH FOR DUPLEX OR SINGLE-FAMILY. WE SEE THE SAME DESIGN COMING THROUGH TIME AND TIME AGAIN. IT IS NOT ADJUSTED TO REFLECT THE CHARACTER OF THE STREET, IT IS NOT ADJUSTED TO REFLECT THE ORIENTATION OF THE LAW. THESE THINGS ARE SQUEEZED ON THERE. WE CANNOT ASK FOR DESIGN ATTENUATION'S OR AMENDMENTS. PROVIDING THE SETBACKS IF IT'S ON THE LOCATION, MEETS THE DENSITY WE HAVE TO APPROVE IT. THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO START TO GET ENGAGED MORE WITH THE DESIGN OF PROPERTIES WITHIN THE INFO LOTS. AGAIN THIS IS WHERE IT BECOMES IMPORTANT WE ARE NOT IMPOSING HORRENDOUS COSTS ON DEVELOPERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS TO DO , THAT IS NOT WHAT WE TRY TO DO HERE. WE WANT TO END UP AND ASSOCIATED WITH THIS AT A FUTURE DATE I WOULD LIKE TO SET UP AND HAVE APPROVED AS ANOTHER DOCUMENT A CATALOG OF PREAPPROVED ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, FOR USE IN THE CITY SO I WOULD NEED TO ENGAGE WITH ARCHITECTS, DESIGNERS , THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO HAVE OUR OWN CATALOG. THAT WHEN SOMEBODY CAME IN TO DO A PROJECT, WE KNOW THE SIZE OF LOTS THAT WILL BE FILLED IN SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE DESIGNS THAT PEOPLE CAN COME IN. FIX COSTS, WE WILL ENGAGE WITH ARCHITECTS WHO BID ON THIS TO INCLUDE ONE OF THE DRAWINGS IN THIS CATALOG, HAVE A FIXED COST ASSOCIATED, SOMEBODY CAME IN AND WANTED TO HAVE THOSE PLANS, THEY ALREADY WOULD'VE HAD BUILDING APPROVAL, THEY WOULD HAVE PLANNING TO GET OUT BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE THE SETBACK AND DESIGN APPROVED. IT IS ALMOST OFF-THE-SHELF GETTING THINGS MOVING AND THEY WOULD HOPEFULLY SAFE ON THE COST OF HAVING ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS, HAVING SITE PLANS DESIGNED AND DRAWN. ALL OF THOSE ADD-ON COSTS AND DON'T REALIZE . TO HAVE IT AVAILABLE OFF-THE-SHELF, PREAPPROVED , I THINK THAT WOULD BE A HUGE STEP FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF ALL

THOSE AREAS. >> ON THE TIMING OF THAT

PROCESS. >> YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE OFF-THE-SHELF THINGS READY , IT WOULD BE A MORE ENCOURAGING WAY FOR SOMEBODY TO CONSIDER BUILDING A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.

RATHER THAN ASSEMBLING LOTS TO GET MULTIFAMILY RENTALS. IT WOULD HAVE THAT, HOPEFULLY HAVE THAT DIRECTIONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF LOTS NOT BEING BUILT AT THE MOMENT. IN A WAY THAT REINFORCES THE CHARACTER OF THE

AREA. >> IT'S NOT LIKE YOU WILL OPPOSE TO GO IT JUST THOSE DESIGNS. THEY HAVE A CHOICE.

>> HAVE CHOICE, YES. YEAH. WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE RIGHT DIRECTION. TO ALLOW THINGS THAT REALLY DO REINFORCE THE CHARACTER OF THE CITY THAT WE ARE NOT TRYING TO IMPOSE

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ADDITIONAL COSTS , IT'S LIKE A FINE LINE. WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENTS RATHER THAN PUT THINGS IN PLACE NOT PUSH

PEOPLE FURTHER AWAY. >> SAY THAT THERE IS BLOCKS OF RESIDENTS WITH CLASSICAL STYLE AND SOMEONE COMES WITH ART DECO STYLE IT DOES NOT MATTER RIGHT? BECAUSE IT IS THEIRS?

>> YOU WOULD HAVE THE DISCUSSION TO SAY. MOST OF THE STREET LOOKS CLASSICAL WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? DOES THAT AFFECT YOUR THINKING ON WHAT YOU WANT AND WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSING. IT COMPLIES WITH STANDARDS SO WE ARE OKAY WITH IT, BUT LET'S THINK HOW DO YOU WANT YOUR HOUSE TO LOOK.

>> THE SAME FOR COMMERCIAL. >> COMMERCIAL, SAME.

MORE THAN THAT IF THEY CAN FIND A STYLE THAT MEETS ARTICULATION AND THE ROOF AND ALL OF THAT STUFF WE WOULD CONSIDER THAT.

>> CONSIDERING THAT AS A MORE MODERN STYLE LIKE A FOUR UNIT COMPLEX , I WOULD SAY IT'S MANY OF THESE.

>> IT IS NOT HERE, BUT IT WOULD NEED CRITERIA FOR THE DESIGN ELEMENTS. WHOEVER CAME IN WOULD SAY IT'S NOT THESE, BUT IT MEETS THESE CRITERIA FOR THESE DESIGN ELEMENTS. THEY ARE NOT FINAL, IT IS THE START OF A NEGOTIATION. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE WITH THE MARKET. IF THERE IS A PARTICULAR CONSTRUCTION METHODOLOGY THAT BECOMES MORE FAVORABLE BECAUSE OF COST WE ARE NOT TRYING TO IMPOSE A PARTICULAR MATERIAL TO BE USED. IT'S THE OVERALL APPEARANCE WE ARE TRYING TO GET

TO. >> IT SEEMS SUBJECTIVE AS WELL SO HOW DO YOU DECLARE AND HOW DOES YOUR TEAM DECIDE WHAT IS DEFINITELY THUMBS UP THIS IS GREAT VERSUS NOT, IS IT SUBJECTIVE? SO THERE'S A BIT OF SUBJECTIVITY. WE DO HAVE SOME UNDERLYING BASIC CRITERIA. SO HOW DOES A BUILDING ARTICULATE, IT HAS A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF NON- BLANK WALLS.

SO, IT WILL BE UP TO THE DESIGN PROFESSIONAL TO SAY I HAVE MET THE CRITERIA FOR THE ROOFS IN MY DESIGN. IT MAY NOT LOOK ANYTHING LIKE THESE THINGS. SO THAT'S ONE THING WE REALLY DO NOT WANT TO HAVE. SUCH A RESTRICTION THAT WE END UP LIKE A MUSEUM AND EVERYTHING IS DESIGNED AND BUILT EXACTLY THE SAME AND IT'S NOT COOKIE-CUTTER.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? HEARING NINE.

>> I NOTICE YOU HAVE PICTURES OF THE STYLES IN THE LAST TWO

YOU DO NOT. >> I'M STILL SEARCHING FOR PHOTOGRAPHS. I DID FIND SOME EXAMPLES, BUT THEY WERE NOT THE

BEST. >> HAVE YOU FOUND MANY MASONRY MODERN STYLE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL'S?

>> THERE ARE A FEW. I AM SURPRISED, WHEN I FIND THESE THINGS I DID NOT REALIZE IT WAS DOWN THAT STREET, BUT IT SHOWS THE DIFFERENTIAL . STREETS IN FORT PIERCE HAVE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURE ON THEM AND WE DRIVE DOWN THEM EVERY DAY AND IT'S NOT UNTIL YOU MAKE A NOTE OF LOOKING AT THE STYLES AND TRYING TO PUT THEM INTO CATEGORIES THAT YOU ACTUALLY FIGURE OUT. IT IS SOMETHING, MY JOURNEY AS A PLANNER , I REMEMBER MY FIRST CLASS ON ARCHITECTURE. AND, WALKING DOWN THE STREET AFTER HAVING THAT CLASS WAS , I REALIZED I DID NOT LOOK AND THERE IS NO PURPOSE TO LOOKING.

I CHALLENGED, THIS IS SOMETHING I DID IN A COMMUNITY THAT I WORKED. I WENT DOWN THE MAIN SHOPPING STREET. I TOOK

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PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE BOTTOM OF PROPERTIES AND THE UPPER FLOWS AND I CUT THEM OUT. I SAID NOW THE COMPETITION WAS MATCH THE GROUND FLOOR OR FIRST-FLOOR TO THE SECOND. THIS WAS AT A COMMUNITY EVENT WHERE WE HAD HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE COMING THROUGH. ONLY ONE PERSON WHO ACTUALLY DID THIS GOT THE COMBINATIONS RIGHT BECAUSE PEOPLE, AND I WOULD CHALLENGE YOU TO WALK DOWN ORANGE AVENUE AND LOOK UP AND SAY I DO NOT REALIZE THAT BUILDING WAS THERE BECAUSE YOU DON'T. YOU ARE A SHOPPER, YOU LOOK FOR UTILITIES IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, THE WINDOWS, THE DOORWAYS BUT YOU DON'T NECESSARILY LOOK ARE THERE BALCONIES UP THERE ? I COULD ASK YOU HOW MANY STORES DOWNTOWN BALCONIES? NOBODY WOULD THINK OR HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE. HOW MANY STORES DOWNTOWN HAVE PITCHED ROOFS OR FLAT ROOFS? THOSE SORT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. YOU DO THAT IN ANY STREET AND IT IS QUITE REMARKABLE. IT'S LIKE ARCHITECTURAL BLINDNESS. YOU GET USED TO DRIVING DOWN THE STREET . YOU GET IN YOUR CAR IN THE MORNING, YOU END UP AT WORK AND MOST OF IT YOU DON'T REMEMBER HOW YOU GOT THERE. BUT YOU DID AND THE SAME WHEN YOU WALK SOMEWHERE. UNLESS SOMETHING REALLY STRIKES YOU AS DIFFERENT OR REMARKABLE YOU WILL NOT REMEMBER.

>> ALL RIGHT. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS, NO ONE LEFT IN THE AUDIENCE TO COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS AGENDA ITEM

, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MOVED TO APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION FOR APPROVAL AND

SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >>

>> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT WE HAVE NO PUBLIC

[8. DIRECTOR'S REPORT]

IN THE ROOM TO COME IN, MOVING ON FROM ITEM 7 TO THE

DIRECTOR'S REPORT. >> WHAT I HAVE FOR YOU TODAY IS JUST NOTIFICATION THAT , IF YOU RECALL WE HAD A NUMBER OF ORDINANCES THAT CAME THROUGH DEALING WITH DEVELOPMENT ON SMALL LOTS, INNOVATIVE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ALTERATIONS TO THE DEFINITIONS TO ENABLE THAT AND ALSO SOME USE CRITERIA WHICH ENABLED THAT SORT OF THING TO HAPPEN. ALL OF THOSE APPROVED BY CITY COMMISSION OVER THE LAST TWO MEETINGS. SO THAT IS VERY GOOD. THIS IS ANOTHER STEP IN THAT DIRECTION OF PUTTING THESE PIECES TOGETHER OF HAVING A FLEXIBLE CODE TO ENABLE THE PLANNING BOARD TO DO A MORE THOROUGH JOB AND GIVE THEM THE TOOLS TO DO THAT. THERE ARE PIECES OF CODE COMING THROUGH WORKING ON THE SIGN CODE WHICH COULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS ARCHITECTURAL PIECE THAT WE HAVE SPECIFIC SINE CODES FOR THE CRA OR DOWNTOWN OR THOSE LOCATIONS. 'S WE HAVE CONSISTENCY WITH LIGHTING AND THOSE SORTS OF THINGS AND SIZES. I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR TWO YEARS, THE CITY PORT. I AM HOPING TO GET CLOSER TO THE END OF THAT SOON. THERE'S A LOT OF UNDERLYING COGS AND WHEELS TO BE ALIGNED AND NOT QUITE THERE, BUT VERY CLOSE. OTHER PIECES OF CODE THAT FIT TOGETHER IN THE WHOLE PROCESS OF LANDSCAPING IS THE NEXT BIG PIECE. TO GET THAT DONE CORRECTLY BECAUSE THAT IS AN ESSENTIAL PART OF HOW A BUILDING LOOKS AND WORKS. ON THE SITE AND AGAIN I WOULD CHALLENGE YOU AS YOU DRIVE AROUND TO LOOK AT DEVELOPMENTS AND LOTS AND NOTICE WHAT THE LANDSCAPING IS BECAUSE YOU WILL

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FIND THERE ARE LOTS OUT THERE WITH MINIMAL LANDSCAPING. AND THEY DO NOT REALLY CONTRIBUTE TO THE OVERALL AMENITY OF THE CITY. SO AGAIN WE ARE NOT AIMING TO MAKE IT SO RESTRICTIVE TO DETER , BUT MAKE IT MORE CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND FOR NEIGHBORS TO RESPECT NEIGHBORS WHEN THEY COME IN AND DEVELOP AND CHOOSE WHAT LANDSCAPING THEY WANT TO BE PUTTING IN. THE PLANNING BOARD WILL HAVE A LOT OF THINGS COMING FORWARD IN THE NEXT TWO.

[9. BOARD COMMENTS]

>> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ITEM 9 BOARD COMMENTS. ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS WITH ANYTHING THEY WANT TO BRING UP OR TALK ABOUT? YOU GUYS ARE NOT VERY EXCITING TODAY. I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND MY GRATITUDE TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR CONSIDERATION AND ALLOWING ME TO REMAIN ON THIS BOARD ANOTHER TWO YEARS. I WAS VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT AND I WAS HAPPY TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE APPLIED FOR THIS SEAT. I DON'T MIND A LITTLE COMPETITION AND I THINK IT WAS GOOD TO SEE SO MANY CITIZENS TAKING INTEREST IN THE BOARDS AND COMMITTEES WE HAVE A LOT OF THEM AND WE NEED PEOPLE TO FILL THE SEATS AS YOU ALL KNOW IT IS NOT A HUGE TIME COMMITMENT, BUT IT'S NOT NOTHING, IT TAKES EFFORT. IT IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE PROCESS AND I EXPECT EVERYBODY ON THE LIST WILL HAVE THEIR NAMES REMEMBERED BY THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE MAYOR THE NEXT TIME THEY LOOK TO FILL THIS SEAT. IF THERE IS NOTHING ELSE, WE CAN ADJOURN. THANK YOU ALL.

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