Nov 18, 2024 City Commission Regular Meeting

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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MEETING TO ORDER.LL THIS THIS IS NOVEMBER 18TH, 2024.

THIS IS THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING.

PLEASE STAND FOR THE OPENING PRAYER BY PASTOR DELORES WILLIAMS WITH THE KINGDOM WORD NET WORK MINISTRIES.

>> THANK YOU LORD, WE GLORIFY YOUR NAME.

WE THANK YOU UNTO YOU GOD. GOOD THINK TO GIVE THANKS TO THE LORD. AS WE PRAY LORD, TEART WE PRAY FOR YOU GOD TO CONDUCT THIS MEETING AS THIS MEETING IS UNDERWAY AND OUR CITY COMMISSIONERS AND OUR MAYOR, CITY MANAGER AND ALL THOSE THAT ARE PART O OF THIS MEETING TONIGHT. BECAUSE YOUR WORDS SAY ACKNOWLEDGE ALL THAT WE DO, YOU WILL MAKE OUR PATH, I ASK YOU GOD TO DIRECT THEM TONIGHT IN BEING ABLE TO GOD COMPLETE THEIR SIGN THAT IS SET BEFORE THEM GOD, THE RIGHT DECISION, THE RIGHT CHOICE OWES ARE BEING MADE, O GOD IN THEIR DECISION MAKING ON TONIGHT. OAVMENT GOD BECAUSE WE THANK YOU GOD BEAUTIFUL CITY THAT WE LIVE IN GOD, FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA, THANK YOU FOR OUR CITY COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR OUR CITY MANAGER AND O GOD ALL THOSE WHO HAVE A PART IN RUNNING OUR CITY. WE ASK YOU GOD JUST TO CONTINUE TO LEAD AND GUIDE THEM IN THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING TO MAKE OUR CITY A BETTER PLACE IN WHICH TO LIVE.

THIS WE ASK TONIGHT, IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY, AMEN, AMEN.

>> AMOAN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY

AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>> MAYOR HUDSON, PRESENT. COMMISSIONER BRODERICK,

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. PRESENT, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

>> FIRST MATTER, IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 4,

[a. Hospice and Palliative Care Month]

2024. >> CALL THE ROLL.

>> MATTER PASSES. >> PROCLAMATION, HOSPICE AND PALLIATIVE CARE MONTH. COMPASSIONATE CARE ENSURING PEOPLE DIGNITY CHOICE AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND WHEREAS THE HOSPICE MODEL INVOLVES AN INTERDISCIPLINARY TEAM, APPROACH TO TREATMENT, AND COMPREHENSIVE PAIN MANAGEMENT AS A TOWNS OF CARE. AND WHEREAS -- FOUNDATION OF EMOTIONAL SPIRITUAL AND TEAM NEEDS AND PROVIDES TEAM SERVICES LIKE REST PIRT CARE AND GRIEF COUNSELING.

WHEREAS 42 YEARS AGO, VOLUNTEERS CAME TOGETHER TO ESTABLISH TREASURE COAST HOSPICE, COMPASSIONATE QUALITY END OF LIFE CARE FROM A LOCAL BASE HOSPICE PROVIDER.

AND WHEREAS TREASURE COVE, MORE THAN 4,000 PATIENTS ANNUALLY.

AND WHEREAS TREASURE COAST CELEBRATED THE 10TH ANNIVERSARY OF A SPECIALIZE PEDIATRIC CARE PROGRAM, LITTLE TREASURES, LIFE LIMITING ILLNESS BY PROVIDING SUPPORT FOR THE ENTIRE FAMILY. THEREFORE, I HEREBY PROCLAIM NOVEMBER 2024 AS HOSPICE AND PALLIATIVE CARE MONTH, COMMEND THE TREASURE COAST HOSPICE TEAM FOR THE SERVICES OF THE

CITIZENS OF FORT PIERCE. >> CONGRATULATIONS AND YOU MAY SPEAK A FEW WORDS AND TELL US ABOUT IT.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR HUDSON. CLERK, COMMISSIONERS, IT'S A JOY TO STAND BEFORE YOU, A PLEASURE TO ACCEPT THIS ON BEHALF OF OUR BELOVED MISSION, TREASURE COAST HOSPICE.

PROCLAMATIONS MIGHT SEEM LIKE A PROCESS BUT REALLY IT IS A KIND AND THOUGHTFUL AND GENEROUS JUST DECISION BY YOU ALL TO JUST TO DECLARE YOUR SUPPORT AND COMPASSION AND CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO OUR CITY. AND MEMBERS.

AND YOUR TEAMS. SO I JUST WANT TO TAKE A SPECIAL MOMENT TO JUST REALLY PAUSE, AND I KNOW IT'S AN AGENDAD ITEM TRANSCRIPT, BUT IT MEANS THE ABSOLUTELY WORLD TO US, THAT YOU'RE ENCOURAGING OUR CITIZENS OUR RESIDENTS OUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS TO CARE FOR ONE ANOTHER ESPECILLY AT SUCH A DIFFICULT TIME. I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T

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THAT SH SHOULD BE GENEROSITY OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HOSPITALITY, THANK YOU FOR BEING OPEN AND COMPASSIONATE AND CARING FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS BEAUTIFUL TOWN THAT WE LOVE. THE DOORS ARE WIDE OPEN FOR ABSOLUTELY EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN YOUR COMMUNITY AS IT RELATES TO GRIEF COUNSELING. WE DON'T THINK FOLKS KNEW THAT.

JUST MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T CALL CENTER HOME BUT AS FOLKS ARE CLIMBING HEALTH MOUNTAINS, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BRIEFLY MAYOR HUDSON, THERE IS GRIEFPATORIARY GRIEF

[b. Recognition of Commissioner Jeremiah Johnson for his years of elected service to the City of Fort Pierce.]

COUNSELING. >> THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING DO.

>> NEXT IS RECOGNITION OF COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JORDAN FOR HIS YEARS OF SERVICE TO SPHICHES.

CITY OF FORT PIERCE. >> WHEREAS COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON EARNED HIS BATCH LOVERS OF SCIENCE FOR CIVIL AND ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERING, RECONSTRUCTION ENGINEERING FIELD, COMMISSIONER PS JOHNSON IS A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF FORT PIERCE. WHEREAS SERVING AS A CITY COMMISSIONER, JEREMY MA H YAH JOHNSON BEFORE REENTERING INTRO THE PRIVATE SECTOR, JEREMIAH IS MARRIED TO HIS LOVE LIVE WIFE AND HAS TWO CHILDREN. DISTRICT 2 FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IN 2016 AND WAS REELECTED IN 2020.

JEREMIAH IS PROUD TO HAVE SERVED ON VARIES COMMITTEES THROUGH REDEVELOPMENT, TOYS AND TRANSPORTATION, CLEAN WATER INITIATIVES, THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE, FORT ST.

LUCIE COUNCIL OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN A QUOIS EFFORT TO ENHANCE THE CITY'S BEAUTY, QUALITY OF LIFE AND ITS ECONOMIC SUSTAINABILITY. AND WHEREAS JEREMIAH IS A CITY VOLUNTEER, CITIZENS, YOUTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT.

WHEREAS COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON IS HUMBLED TO RECEIVE, ACCESSIBILITY WHILE PLEDGING TO MAINTAIN AN OVERALL COMMITMENT TO WORK COHESIVELY AND RESPECTIVELY OF ALL CITIZENS, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS, WHEREAS DURING HIS TERM AS CITY COMMISSIONER, CONSERVATIVINGLY FISCAL MANAGEMENT AND SOWRND ENGINEERING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY'S APPROACH TO MISSION OBJECTIVES AND FAMILY PLANNING.

ELECTED TO CITY OF FORT PIERCE, NOW THEREFORE I LINDA HUDSON, DO HEREBY ISSUE THIS PROCLAMATION IN HONOR OF COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON IN APPRECIATION AND RECOGNITION OF HIS MANY YEARS OF HONORABLE OH HOPE RABBLE AND DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

>> CONGRATULATIONS, I'M GOING TO MISS YOU.

[APPLAUSE] >> WOW, GHETTO SPEAK FROM THIS

SIDE OF THE -- >> ALSO GIVE YOU THE KEY TO THE

CITY. >> WOW, THAT'S AMAZING.

>> YOU'VE GOT PLENTY OF PLAQUES BUT THIS ONE IS SPECIAL.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH MAYOR, THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.

QUITE A DAY. LOT OF EMOTIONS, RIGHT? I JUST WANT TO SAY JUST AS THE PASTOR SAID, GIVING THANKS TO THE LORD FIRST. I'LL SHARE WITH YOU THAT IN THE GOOD BOOK IN THE BIBLE IT TALKS ABOUT PLANS FOR US, PLANS FOR OUR CITY, PLANS TO PROSPER AS NOT TO HARM US.

AND SO I BELIEVE THIS THAT. AND I'VE GOT SOME GREAT FRIENDS THAT ARE ACTUALLY IN THIS ROOM, SITTING BEHIND ME, COLLEAGUES, THAT HAVE BEEN A PART OF THAT PROCESS.

YOU ALL HAVE BEEN A PART OF THAT PROCESS AND SO I SAY THANK YOU TO EACH ONE OF YOU, I ESPECIALLY SAY THANK YOU JUST AS THE PROCLAMATION READ TO THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF FOR PIERCE. YOU KNOW WE ARE ONE FORT PIERCE, WE ARE FAMILY, WE ARE COMMUNITY BORN AND RAISED RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, SO IT MEANS A LOT TO BE ABLE TO SERVE IN THIS CAPACITY. IT MEANS A LOT THAT MY WIFE HAS

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AND FORS T FOR THOSE OF YOU THE BEHIND TO WATCH OTHERS TAKE OFFICE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU EVER THINK ABOUT RUNNING FOR OFFICE, YOU KNOW, COME TALK OME. I'LL TOLL YOU ALL ABOUT IT.

FAMILY, KELLY ACKNOWLEDGED LEEEE, ABBY, I EXPERIENCED THE WEDDING OF ONE OF MY CHILDREN DURING THIS TIME.

WHEN I WAS SWORN IN IN 2016 MY PARENTS WORE WITH ME.

IT WAS AN HONOR AND PRIVILEGE, MANY OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS WERE HERE. I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE TONIGHT, VERY THANKFUL, VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE PATH OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. WORK ALONG WITH EVERYONE THAT IS HERE IN CITY HALL, STAFF MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE, YOU KNOW, JUST THERE'S SO MANY PARTS AND PIECES TO PUT TOGETHER. BUT GOVERNMENT WILL BE HERE.

THE GOVERNMENT WILL CONTINUE TO WORK.

IT WILL CONTINUE TO FLOW. THERE WILL BE BUMPS ALONG THE WAY AS WE ALL KNOW. BUT THAT'S OKAY.

IT'S ALWAYS A CHALLENGE THAT IS TO BE OVERCOME.

AND SO I'LL CLOSE WITH THIS: WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE PLANS, THE FIRST TIME I TALKED ABOUT RUNNING FOR OFFICE, MAYBE YOU GUYS PROBABLY DON'T ALL KNOW THIS, 2001, LITERALLY, 2001, IT TOOK 15 YEARS FOR MY PATH TO BE LAID AND THE PLANS TO COME TOGETHER, THE IF LORD KNEW WHAT WAS HAPPENING BUT I TALKED ABOUT IT AND I WORKED ALONG WITH JAVIER CISNEROS WHO IS SITTING HERE WITH ME. WE DIDN'T TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS ME RUNNING FOR OFFICE BUT MY POINT IS IT WAS A PLAN MADE. PATH WAS THERE, YOU KNOW FOR ME AND KELLY BOTH TO BE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, BORN AND RAISED, SHOW WAS BORN IN THE OLD HOSPITAL ON 7TH STREET.

HER FAMILY WAS COMING DOWN TO VACATION IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, THEY DECIDED TO MOVE HERE. MISGRANDPARENTS, DAD WAS BORN IN FORT LAUDERDALE, MOVED TO FORT PIERCE.

I SAY YOU THANK YOU TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO IS STAFF OR MAY BE WATCHING, APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE]

>> I WAS NOT TAKING PHOTOS. >> ALL RIGHTY.

I THINK YOU MIGHT WANT TO STAY THERE FOR A MINUTE, JEREMIAH BECAUSE YOUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS MIGHT WANT TO SAY

A FEW WORDS. >> LET'S START WITH THIS SIDE

AND LEAVE THEM OVER THERE. >> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER

BRODERICK. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO SRVE WITH YOU.

AND I REMEMBER FOUR YEARS AGO, WHEN I CAME ON TO THE COMMISSION, WE HAVE TWO JOHNSONS UP HERE RIGHT? I WOULD ALWAYS TEASE, THAT'S MY BROTHER FROM ANOTHER MOTHER AND WE WOULD HAVE GREAT CONVERSATION.

BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, I'VE ENJOYED WHAT YOU BROUGHT TO THIS COMMISSION. NEVER A DOUBT THAT YOU DID YOUR LOAM WORK, PROVIDED INTELLECTUAL CHALLENGES AND COMMENTS AND RESEARCH AND ALSO THE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE THAT YOU BROUGHT HERE. AND NOT TO SAY YOUR EXPERTISE AS AN ENGINEER, I ALWAYS LOVED THE ENGINEERING MINDS AND HOW THEY LOOK AT PROBLEMS AND BEGIN TO DEDUCT AND REASON, AND FIND POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE, I RECALL YOU WERE ONE OF OF THE ONES WHERE I BROUGHT THE ONE FORT PIERCE HERE YOU BOUGHT INTO THAT CONCEPT OUR GOVERNING PRINCIPLE AND YOU HAVE SUSTAINED THAT THROUGHOUT THAT TIME OF OUR TIME TOGETHER HERE ON THIS COMMISSION.

AND I KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING FAR.

BUT YOU CERTAINLY HAVE SET THE HIGH MARK FOR THAT SEAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE PRIOR YEARS TO THAT, PRIOR TO ME GETTING HERE I WATCHED YOU CONDUCT YOURSELF PROFESSIONALLY, THERE WERE CHALLENGING TIMES ON THIS COMMISSION AS I SAT IN THAT AUDIENCE AND WATCHED AS A CITIZEN.

BUT WE GOT THROUGH IT AS A CITY.

AND THE LAST FOUR YEARS, EIGHT YEARS HAVE BONE A PLEASURE TO SERVE WITH YOU. AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, AS WE

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I JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS, IT'S A PLEASURE, DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO BE DOING NOW, WITH ALL OF THIS FREE TIME ON MONDAY NIGHTS, THERE OUR TPO MEETINGS THAT WE SERVED ON TOGETHER.

SO I'LL JUST THINK OF YOU AS I'M SITTING IN THOSE MEETINGS NOW, WHAT IS JEREMIAH DOING WHEN HE SHOULD BE IN THIS MEETING WITH ME. NONETHELESS, ALL THE BEST FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. THANK YOU FOR BEING A GREAT

COUNCIL MATE UP HERE. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES YOU WANT

TO GO NEXT? >> WELL, I STARTED THIS LAST WEEK IN OUR REDEVELOPMENT MEETING.

I HAVE BEEN UP HERE ALMOST THREE YEARS NOW AND THOUGH PUT ME RIGHT BESIDE YOU. SO IT' IT'S BEEN GREAT MONDAYS SITTING WITH YOU BECAUSE REGARDLESS THAT WE SHOULDN'T PUT ON OUR OTHER HATS, WE DID. AND WE PUT ON OUR ENGINEER HATS AND WE PUT ON OUR ATTORNEY HATS AND WE WOULD GO BACK AND 40TH TO THE POINT WHERE I -- AND FORTH TO THE FACT THAT I KNEW WHERE YOU WERE GOING WITH ENGINEERING QUESTIONS AND I THINK YOU STARTED TO PICK UP WHERE I WAS GOING WITH MY ATTORNEY QUESTIONS. I SAY THAT TO SAY THAT THOSE BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN ME AND YOU REALLY HELPED THE CITY AND THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE WERE COMING FROM AND WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO FOR THE RESIDENTS.

I HOPE THAT THE LEGISLATOR IN TALLAHASSEE IS LISTENING TO THIS BECAUSE CAN YOU IMAGINE IF WE REALLY COULD HAVE GOTTEN TOGETHER OUTSIDE OF THIS MEETING, AND PUT OUR ENGINEER HEAD, OUR ATTORNEY HEAD, AND ADDRESS SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS BEFORE WE CAME HERE. I MEAN, THE SUNSHINE RULE IS HURTING SOME OF THE HOME RULE BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE LOVED JUST TO SIT DOWN AND TALK. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SAID, STRATEGY MEETINGS, PEOPLE OUGHT TO COME SEE US GO BACK OVER THEM QUESTIONS AND THEM PAGES OUTLOUD AND SEE HOW MUCH WE PUT IN AND HOW MUCH WE THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. SO I'M GOING TO MISS YOU JEREMIAH. I WON'T LIE, THE BACK AND FORTH, THE BACK AND FORTH UP HERE WAS GREAT, YOU KEPT ME ON MY TOES, AS COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SAID, DON'T BE TOO FAR.

I HAD LINDA LAUGHING, WITH THE KEY OF THE CITY, IT'S KIND OF DANGEROUS, ANYBODY WITH A KEY DON'T GET JEREMIAH.

BUT JEREMIAH HAS BEEN A GREAT ADVOCATE FOR NOTE JUST DISTRICT 2 BUT FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

AND HE MADE HIMSELF AVAILABLE FOR EVERYBODY.

HE DIDN'T TERGT WHERE HE CAME THERE AND HE STOOD ON HIS PRINCIPLES THAT OWE GREW UP ON AND THAT, I CAN RESPECT THAT.

YOU ARE GOING TO BE MISSED. I HATE TO SEE YOU GO BECAUSE WE GOT A LOT OF STUFF TO DO IN FLORIDA.

THE YOUNG MAN THAT IS REPLACING YOU IS IN THE AUDIENCE.

HOPE YOU'RE READY TO COME SIT BY ME IN THIS CHAIR BECAUSE YOU KNOW, AS COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SAID, YOU HAVE A ROLE TO FILL.

AND HE LEFT A LEGACY AND WE'RE NOT GOING BACK.

THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IS NOT GOING BACK SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. SO JEREMIAH, AS COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SAID, DON'T BE A STRANGER.

AS I SAID BEFORE, THE OTHER NIGHT JOKINGLY, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE HIM TWO MINUTES AND 30 SECONDS, NOT THE WHOLE THREE MINUTES WHEN HE COMES BACK. THE RESIDENTS OF FORT PIERCE, I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS THE LAST TIME YOU'LL SEE COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON FIGHTING FOR FORT PIERCE.

WITH THAT JOB WELL DONE. >> MAYOR, IT'S BEEN AN HONOR TO SERVE WITH YOU. YOU'RE TRULY AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT I ATTEMPT TO FILL IN THIS ROLE HERE.

I'VE OBSERVED YOU IN ACTION FOR YEARS, HAVING SAT ON A VARIETY OF BOARDS AND COMMITTEES, ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS I HAVE FOLLOWED IN THOSE FOOTSTEPS AND THOSE WERE VALUABLE, VALUABLE LESSONS

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YOUR CALL COOL COLLECTED DEMEANOR IS ALWAYS A LEVELING HAND UP HERE AND IT'S MUCH APPRECIATED FOR SOME OF US THAT GET A LITTLE BIT MORE EMOTIONALLY INVOLVED WITH SOME OF THE ISSUES. AND OF COURSE YOUR INPUT IS ALWAYS REMARKABLY ON POINT. AND I'VE SAID TO COUNTLESS PEOPLE WHEN THERE'S CHALLENGES DECISIONS TO BE MADE, I'M WAITING UNTIL THE NIGHT OF THE MEETING TO GET THE INPUT FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND THE MAYOR AND YOUR INPUT IS ALWAYS CRITICAL IN MY DECISION AS YOU'VE SEEN.

YOU'VE SHIFTED MY OPINIONS. YOU'VE SHIFTED MY DECISION MAKING IN A POSITIVE MANNER AND I'M GOING TO MISS THAT DEARLY.

SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE NOT ONLY AS A MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION BUT AS A RESIDENT OF THE CITY BECAUSE YOU WERE MY COMMISSIONER FOR MANY YEARS BEFORE I SERVED HERE. AND I ENJOYED THOSE INTERACTIONS THEN. I'VE ENJOYED OUR INTERACTIONS HERE. I'M GOING TO MISS YOU HERE.

>> THANK YOU SIR. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

>> SO NOT MANY PEOPLE KNOW THAT THE CHAIR HERE TO THE RIGHT IS -- SINCE I'VE BEEN UP HERE HAS ALWAYS KIND OF HELPED KEEP ME STRAIGHT ON THE MEETING. AND SCW JEREMIAH HAS DONE THAT.

CALLING THE PUBLIC HEARING YET, WE NEED PUBLIC COMMENT AND DO I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. SO I'VE REALLY APPRECIATED THAT. BECAUSE YOU DID IT WITH FIST AND YOU TORSED US TO LOOK AT THE FUTURE ALL THE TIME.

ALL THE TIME YOU SAID, WE'RE SITTING HERE BUT DOWN THE ROAD, WE NEED TO LOOK DOWN THE ROAD. AND THAT IS A VALUABLE, VALUABLE TINGE FOR THIS COMMISSION.

AND WE'RE GOING TO MISS THAT. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK YOU DO, NOT MANY PEOPLE KNOW HOW HARD YOU WORK.

AND I TELL PEOPLE I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU SLEEP.

BECAUSE YOU ARE A WORKER, YOU ARE A VERY HARD WORKER, YOU ARE ALWAYS PREPARED FOR THE MEETINGS.

AND LIKE THE OTHERS HAVE SAID WHEN WE COME TO A DIFFICULT DECISION, JEREMIAH GOES BACK TO THE WORDS ON PAPER OR, IN THIS CASE, THE WORDS ON HIS ANNUAL IT, THE IPAD.

AND HELPS KEEP US STRAIGHT. AND THAT IS REALLY AN IMPORTANT CONTRIBUTION, I APPRECIATE THAT.

YOUR HARD WORK FOR MAIN STREET AND ALL THE COMMITTEES YOU WORK ON, FOR THE CITIZENS OF FORT PIERCE, YOU WILL BE SORELY MISSED AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU ALL.

>> ONE ADDITIONAL COMMENT. I DID COME SEE YOU BEFORE I DECIDED TO RUN. YOU DID NOT TALK ME OUT OF IT.

MISSED MY HEAD SHAKING. THANK YOU ALL, WHAT A BLESSING.

THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]

>> WELL, IT'S TIME TO GO HOME, RIGHT?

>> SO MOVED. OH.

[8. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

>> WE'LL GO ON. NEXT DECISIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA OR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.

>> ADDITIONS OR DELETION OR I'LL APPROVE, CALL THE ROLL

PLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, YES, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, MAYOR HUDSON, YES MA'AM.

[a. Update from Fort Pierce Utilities Authority regarding the inventory of leaded copper pipes within the City.]

LEADED COPPER PIPES. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR

RESIDENTS FULLY UNDERSTAND. >> MR. CISNEROS.

>> GOOD EVENING, IT IS ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO BE WITH THE COMMISSION. BEFORE I GET STARTED I ACTUALLY WOULD LIKE TO, I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE COME UP DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, IT'S HOSPICE, REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF ALSO FEE AND THE ENTIRE TEAM WHAT THEY DO THERE.

PART OF THAT CONVERSATION THAT I HAD ERD EARLIER BEFORE THIS DICK KELSTROM.LKED A BIT HE USED TO OWN AN ENGINEERING FIRM, IN THE FOYS, THAT'S WHEN I MET JEREMIAH.

IT'S ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC THIS ENTIRE THING BEING TIED TOGETHER. ALL THE ITEMS BEING DISCUSSED.

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I'LL MOVE ON WITH THE I'M HERE WITH MR. JOHN BIGGS HE IS A PRINCIPAL ENGINEER L ENGINEER HE IS ALSO THE PROMPT MANAGER FOR THE LEAD COPPER ROLL REVISIONS.

AND WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS INFORMATION, IT'S INFORMATION THAT OUR CUSTOMERS HAVE BEEN GETTING.

AND ACTUALLY THIS IS ALSO A FOLLOW UP PER THE REQUEST OF MR. GAINES. WHEN WE MET WITH HIM, HE SAID HEY IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR YOU GUYS TO CONTINUE TO SHARE THIS INFORMATION AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR AND CONCISE AND TRANSPARENT. SO WE ALSO FOLLOWED UP THAT REQUEST THERE MR. GAINES FROM A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

WE WILL BE PRESENTING THIS INFORMATION AS WELL TOMORROW AT THE FPA BOARD MEETING. SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO I'M DIAGNOSE TO TURN IT OVER TO RACHEL AND MR. B BIGGS AND LET

THEM GET STARTED. >> THANK YOU AS ALWAYS FOR HAVING US. AS MR. CISNEROS MENTIONED WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT ON THE LEAD AND COPPER RULE REVISION AND CUSTOMER COMMUNICATIONS THAT HAVE BEGUN OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. THIS PRESENTATION, IMPORTANTLY, IS TO INTRODUCE THE BEGINNING OF AN INITIATIVE THAT WILL GUIDE US TOWARD A LEAD FREE COMMUNITY.

THE INITIATIVE AS YOU WILL SEE IN THIS PRESENTATION BEGINS WITH THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE INVENTORY OF OUR WATER SYSTEM PIPES THAT WE HAVE EVER DONE. ON BOTH THE PUBLIC AND THE PRIVATE SIDE. AND FOLLOWS WITH ABOUT TEN YEARS OF PIPE REPLACEMENT WORK. I'M JOINED TODAY BY JOHN BIGGS WHO WILL BE SHARING THE PRESENTATION WITH ME.

AND WILL BE COVERING FIRST AN INTRODUCTION TO THE LEAD AND COPPER RULE JUST SO WE ALL HAVE SOME CONTEXT.

AND FPOA'S IMPLEMENTATION OF THE LEAD AND COPPER RULE TO DATE AND WHAT WE WILL BE DOING, FOLLOWED BY SOME NEXT STEPS AND COMMON QUESTIONS ANSWERED. WE HAVE ALREADY BEGUN RECEIVING QUESTIONS FROM CUSTOMERS AND WE WANT TO TOUCH BASE WITH YOU HERE LET YOU KNOW AWAY THOSE QUESTIONS ARE, WHAT SOME OF THE ANSWERS ARE AND ALSO TO SHARE COMMUNICATIONS, AND THEN WE'LL WRAP UP THE PRESENTATION WITH A QUICK SNAPSHOT OF THE ACTUAL RESOURCES PAGE THAT WE'VE CREATED FOR THIS PURPOSE SO THAT YOU WILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.

AND SO WITH THAT, I WILL PASS THIS OVER TO MR. BIGGS.

MR. BIGGS. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR HUDSON, COMMISSIONERS. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE LEAD AND COPPER RESUME WHICH WAS FIRST CIRCULATED IN 1991 AND ALSO WAS LATER REVISED IN 2021 AND THIS IS A NATIONWIDE ISSUE.

THIS IS NOT JUST RELATE TO FORT PIERCE.

THIS REQUIRES US TO CREATE AN INVENTORY OF ALL OF OUR SERVICE LINES. THIS ALSO REQUIRES TO ISSUE A SERVICE LINE REPLACEMENT PLAN, AND ALSO NOTIFY THE CUSTOMERS WITHIN 30 DAYS OF SUBMITTING THIS INVENTORY TO FDEP AND ALSO WE HAVE A TEN YEARS TO REPLACE ALL THE SERVICE LINE ON FPA SITE. BEFORE YOU HAVE A TYPICAL IMAGE OF WHAT A SERVICE LINE LOOKS LIKE.

YOU CAN SEE TO THE LEFT, LABELED IN BLUE, YOU HAVE THE WATER MAIN. YOU HAVE A SERVICE LINE TO THE METER. THE PORTION BETWEEN THE MEAN AND THE METER, THAT IS THE FPA'S RESPONSIBILITY, THAT IS CONSIDERED THE PUBLIC SIDE AND A PORTION TO THE RIGHT OF THE METER IN GRAY, THAT'S THE CUSTOMER SIDE AND THAT'S CONSIDERED THE PRIVATE SIDE. SO JUST SO WE HAVE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN WHAT'S FPA SIDE AND WHAT'S THE CUSTOMER'S SIDE. THE RULE REQUIRED CLASSIFICATION OF SERVICE LINE AND THIS WAS OBTAINED BY REVIEWING AS-BUILT RECORD, ALSO REVIEWING CITY AND COUNTY PERMIT CODE AND ALSO RELATING TO THE LEAD BAN THAT WAS ISSUED. SERVICE LINE ARE CLASSIFIED BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT WAS GIVEN INTO FOUR CATEGORIES.

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WE HAVE THE LEAD. WE HAVE THE UNKNOWN AND WE HAVE THE NONLEAD. AND THIS IS AN INITIAL INVENTORY, THIS IS IN THE INITIAL STAGE BECAUSE THIS IS AN ONGOING EFFORT THAT FPA IS DOING TO IDENTIFY AND UPGRADE THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE IN OUR STATEMENT.

CURRENTLY, INITIALLY WE HAVE 12,590 UNKNOWN.

WE HAVE 52 CURRENT REPLACEMENT AND WE HAVE 126 LEAD AND ALSO WE HAVE 12,726 KNOWN LEAD. NONLEAD.

BEFORE YOU WE HAVE A CHART THAT SHOWS A COMPARISON BETWEEN THE NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CATEGORY SERVICE LINE ON TPA SIDE AND ALSO ON THE CUSTOMER SIDE. FOR THE NONLEAD WE HAVE 16,887.

ON FPA SIDE AND WE HAVE 12,791 ON THE CUSTOMER SIDE.

FOR THE UNKNOWN WE HAVE 8,000 AND JUST TO POINT OUT THAT THERE IS A LESSER AMOUNT ON TPA SIDE BECAUS -- FPA SIDE BECAUSE THIS IS AN OAN GOING EFFORT THAT FPA HAS BEEN DOING FOR SEVERAL YEARS TO REPLACE THE LEAD PIPE IN OUR SYSTEM.

SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE TREA ON FPA SIDE -- 43 ON FPA SIDE AND WE HAVE 103 OPEN CUSTOMER SIDE AND FOR GOVERNMENT WE HAVE 16 ON FPA SIDE AND 58 ON THE CUSTOMER SIDE.

AND AGAIN AS I SAID THIS IS AN INITIAL INVENTORY THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS ONGOING ON FPUA IS WORKING WITH THE WATER DISTRIBUTION DEPARTMENT TO CHANGE OUT THE SERVICE LINE AS WE GO. FTC AND NOW WE HAVE RACHEL THAT IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT COMMUNICATION.

>> THANK YOU JOHN. SO JUST AS A QUIC QUICK FOLLOWP WITH THE INVENTORY. ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO CONVEY AS WELL IS WHEN YOU SEE A NUMBER OF ABOUT 12,000, 12,300 UNKNOWN IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE WE ARE AN OLDER CITY. AND THIS IS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE KNEW WOULD BE COMING TO US AT THE TIME THAT WE BEGAN THE INVENTORY AND IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY COMMON ACROSS CITIES THAT HAVE BUILDINGS THAT ARE OLDER THAN THE 1980S. BECAUSE AFTER THAT TIME LEAD WAS NO LONGER ABLE TO BE USED. SO IF YOU ARE IN A NEWER CITY, AUTOMATICALLY YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT THESE ARE NOT MATERIALS THAT WERE USED. AND SO THAT IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR COMMUNICATIONS. IT'S ALSO REALLY DRIVING OUR NEXT STEPS FOR IMPLEMENTATION. FIRST AND FOREMOST WE ARE CONTINUING THE INVENTORY. WE HAVE TO KEEP GOING SO THAT WE CAN FINALIZE THIS VIEW OF WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON IN THE CITY OPEN BOTH THE PUBLIC AND THE PRIVATE SIDE.

WE'LL ALSO PROCEED WITH REPLACEMENT OF LEAD OR GALVANIZED PIPE ON THE PUBLIC SIDE.

THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR RULE IS THAT ALTHOUGH WE ARE BEING TASKED WITH PROVIDING AN INVENTORY ON BOTH THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SIDE WE ARE NOT EMPOWERED TO REPLACE PIPES ON THE PRIVATE SIDE. SO WE ARE ABLE TO TELL CUSTOMERS THAT THE PRIVATE SIDE MAY HAVE LEAD OR GALVANIZED PIPE. BUT FROM THERE THE BEST WE CAN DO IS PROVIDE ADVICE ON NEXT STEPS.

WE ARE SEARCHING, THOUGH, FOR FUNDING.

THAT MAY BE ABLE TO HELP IF WE FIND GRANT FUNDING THAT CAN PAY TO HELP CUSTOMERS REPLACE PIPES ON THE PRIVATE SIDE.

AND WE'RE DOING THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE GRANTS TIME AND THE FPUA GRANTS TIME.

WE MEET EVERY MONTH AS ROUND TABLES SO THIS IS A PREEXISTING RELATIONSHIP AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE RECOGNIZE AS IMPORTANT. SO THE THREE THINGS FOR NEXT STEPS, CONTINUING WITH THE INVENTORY, PROCEEDING WITH REPLACEMENT OF LEAD ON THE PUBLIC SIDE, WHICH AS JOHN MENTIONED IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS. ANY TIME WE IDENTIFIED PIPES THAT WERE LEAD OR GALVANIZED WE MADE IT A PRIORITY TO REPLACE THEM. AND THIRD IS FUNDING THIS INITIATIVE. BECAUSE NOT ONLY ARE WE SEEKING FUNDS TO HELP CUSTOMERS TO PAY IF THEY WANT TO REPLACE PRIVATE PIPES BUT IT ALSO IS EXPENSIVE TO CONDUCT THIS INVENTORY.

THE PROCESS OF CONDUCTING THE INVENTORY BEGAN WITH RESEARCH, LOOKING AT RECORDS, AND BUILDING RECORDS, UTILITY RECORDS, BUT AS THE RECORDS LEAVE US WITH UNKNOWNS AND WE DON'T HAVE RECORDS TO TELL US WHETHER IT'S NEWER OR OLDER WE ACTUALLY THEN HAVE TO GO HIGHWAYS TO HOUSE OR BUILDING TO BUILDING AND -- HOUSE TO HIGHWAYS OR BUILDING TO

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THAT IS A LOT OF STAFF OR CONTRACTOR TIME THAT OTHERWISE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN BUDGETED FOR.

FUNDING IS THE BIG NUMBER 3. WE ARE ALREADY PREAPPROVED TO RECEIVE ABOUT 1.3D MILLION OF STATE REVOLVING LOAN FUNDS, IT FUNCTIONS AS A MATCH SO 50% GRANT AND 50% LOAN FORGIVERNESS. BUT IT'S ONLY ABLE TO BE USED FOR PUBLIC SIDE REPLACEMENT OR PUBLIC INVENTORY WORK.

IT IS NOT ABLE TO BE USED FOR PRIVATE REPLACEMENTS AND SEPARATELY WE ARE RESEARCHING FUNDING.

IMPORTANTLY, THERE IS NO MANDATE FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS TO REPLACE THEIR PIPES. SO THERE WON'T BE ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES COMING TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND SAYING YOU MUST NOW REPLACE AT YOUR OWN EXPENSE. HOWEVER WE DO UNDERSTAND AND RECOGNIZE THAT FOLKS ARE GOING TO BE INTERESTED AND LIKELY WANT TO MAKE THEIR REPLACEMENTS.

THEY JUST MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING. THE COMMUNITY MOAFNLGING TO DATE -- MESSAGING TO DATE, WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO RAISE AWARENESS OF THE TASK AHEAD OF US.

THIS INVENTORY AND THEN THE PROCESS OF REPLACEMENT TRYING TO FIND FUNDING, WE'RE ALSO REALLY TRYING TO CONVEY THE UNIQUENESS OF THE POSITION WE'RE IN FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. ONE BECAUSE IT IS AN OLDER CITY WITH MANY OLDER BUILDINGS, AND TWO, BECAUSE OF THE INVENTORY OF PRIVATE SIERD AND NOT BEINGS ABLE TO FUND THE REPLACEMENTS.

AND SO THAT IS THE MAJORITY OF THE EXPWROWRKTARY COMMUNICATIONS THAT YOU'LL SEIZE SO -- INTRODUCTORY COMMUNICATIONS YOU'LL SEE SO FAR.

WE ARE ALSO INVITING CUSTOMERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO ASSIST US IN THE COMPLETION OF THE INVENTORY.

WE'VE DEVELOPED AN INVENTORY WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU MOMENTARILY TO HELP CUSTOMERS HELP IN THE PROCESS IF THEY LIKE.

IF NOT, THAT'S OKAY. WE ARE STILL OUT IN THE FIELD DOING THE INVENTORY. IT'S JUST GETTING THEM OUT THERE. AND SO CUSTOMERS, IF THEY FEEL THAT THEY'D LIKE TO, THEY CAN DO IT THEMSELVES AS WELL.

WE'RE ALSO INVITING CUSTOMERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO EXPLORE THE NEW RESOURCE PAGE. THAT IS THE ONE THAT I'LL REVIEW WITH YOU IN A MOMENT. IT HAS A MAJOR FAQ SECTION, INTERACTIVE MAP THE SURVEY AND WHAT WE'RE PURSUING COMMUNICATING OUR EFFORTS TO FIND FUNDING WHEREVER POSSIBLE ESPECIALLY FOR THE PRIVATE SIDE AND OF COURSE TO ADAPT AS NEEDED ENSURING THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.

THIS IS NEW NATIONWIDE, THIS CONVERSATION, SO IT'S NEW FOR US TOO AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE OWNER COMMUNICATING IN A WAY THAT MAKES SENSE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT CONVEYS WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON WITHIN THE UTILITY.

AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE BEEN RECEIVING SOME QUESTIONS SO FAR. THE LETTERS STARTED TO GO OUT LAST WEEK. AND AGAIN THESE LETTERS WERE MANDATED BY STATUTE. AND IT WAS BASICALLY TO SAY WHENEVER YOU ARE IN YOUR -- WHEREVER YOU IN IN YOUR INVENTORY PROCESS SO FAR YOU MUST TELL EVERYONE.

THESE ARE THE CATEGORIES THAT MUST RECEIVE A LETTER.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID. SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE RECEIVING, I RECEIVED A LETTER WHAT SHOULD I DO? IF YOUR LETTER STATES THAT YOUR PROPERTY, THE MATERIAL, YOUR SERVICE LINE IS UNKNOWN, NO ACTION IS NEEDED.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE INVENTORY.

UNLESS YOU WOULD LIKE TO, THEN YOU CAN GO ONLINE AND CONDUCT THE SURVEY YOURSELF. THE SURVEY WILL BE SUBMITTED WHEN YOU QUICK SUBMIT IT GOES DIRECTLY TO THE LEAD AND COPPER SPECIALISTS AT FPUA FOR US TO REVIEW VERIFY AND UPDATE THE INVENTORY. IF YOU RECEIVE A LETTER THAT SAYS YOU HAVE KNOWN LEAD OR GALVANIZED MATERIAL, SIMILARLY, THERE'S NO ACTION MANDATED. HOWEVER IF YOU'RE INTERESTED GO TO THE LEAD AND COPPER RESOURCE PAGE THAT WE CREATED.

AND PUT YOUR ADDRESS IN THE CUSTOMER MAP.

AND THAT WILL TELL YOU WHICH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY LINE THE KNOWN LEAD OR GALVANIZED MATERIAL IS ON.

BECAUSE THE LETTER DOES NOT DISTINGUISH.

BUT IT'S VERY SIMPLE TO SEE WHEN YOU GO TO THE MAP.

AND IF IT'S ON THE UTILITY SIDE, KNOW THAT WE ARE WORKING VERY QUICKLY TO REPLACE ANY LEAD OR GALVANIZED MATERIALS OWN THE PUBLIC SIDE. THIS IS BEING DONE.

IF IT'S ON THE PRIVATE SIDE, YOU CAN REACH OUT TO A CERTIFIED PLUMBER IF YOU LIKE, YOU CAN REACH OUT TO HAVE YOUR WATER TESTED FOR LEAD. THERE'S A LINK IN THE FAQS FOR CERTIFIED LABORATORIES. AT THIS TIME THERE ARE LIKELY EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE AND WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING

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AND ABOUT -- IT WAS ABOUT 12,700 CUSTOMERS SHOULD NOTE RECEIVE A LETTER BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN DEEMED NONLEAD.

BUT IF YOU ARE CURIOUS OR IF YOU ARE WORRIE THAT IT GOT LOST IN THE MAIL ORE ANYTHING LIKE THAT, SAME THING, YOU CAN GO TO THE LEADS AND COPPER RESOURCE PAGE, TYPE YOUR ADDRESS AND DOUBLE CHECK, IT WILL TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT NOTIFICATION LETTER WAS SENT TO YOU AND THAT SHOULD VERIFY THAT IT'S NONLEAD. ANOTHER ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE HAVE BEEN RECEIVING IS ABOUT THE WATER CONTAMINATION.

SOME OF THE FOLKS MAYBE ARE NOT READING THE FULL LETTER EVEN IF IT SAYS UNKNOWN OR IT'S QUITE LONG.

SO THE LETTER THAT WENT OUT IS FOUR PAGES LONG.

AND THREE OF THESE PAGES WERE MANDATORY LANGUAGE BY THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY, TO TALK ABOUT WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT LEAD IN WATER? WE TRIED TO FINESSE IT SO IT SPOKE TO OUR LOCAL AUDIENCE. WE'RE HERE IN FORT PIERCE.

WE ARE NOT ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE NATION BUT MUCH OF THE LANGUAGE THERE WAS MANDATED. AND SO IT'S FOUR PAGES LONG.

THERE'S ONE LETTER. THAT'S ONE PAGE.

AND THEN THERE'S THREE LETTERS OF WHAT DOES IT MEAN? AND SO WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WATER CONTAMINATION. AND THE ANSWER IS, WHEN WATER LEASED THE FPUA PLANT THAT WATER IS LEAD FREE.

THE REASON THIS RULE EXISTS AT ALL, THE OLDERS PIPES WHEN IT WAS ALLOWED TO USE LEAD AND GALVANIZED PIPES IN THOSE YEARS, LEAD CAN LEECH INTO THE WATER.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO AT OUR WATER TREATMENT PLANT IS WE TREAT OUR WATER SO THAT IT IS LESS LIKELY TO LEECH LEAD.

THIS IS SOMETHING WE DO INTENTIONALLY.

SO BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE OLDER PIPES, THAT IS A THING THAT CAN HAPPEN. HOWEVER EVEN WITH PRETREATING, EVEN WITH HAVING NO LEAD COMING OUT OF THE SYSTEM AND PRETREATING IT SO IT'S LESS LIKELY TO LEECH, IF YOU HAVE A BUILDING FULL OF OLDER PIPES, IT MAY BE CONTAMINATED AND THE ONLY WAY TO KNOW FOR SURE IS TO TEST THE WATER ITSELF.

OUR LETTERS ARE NOT INDICATING THAT SPECIFICALLY.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SERVICE LINE, WHICH IS AT THE PROPERTY LINE. AN WHAT COULD BE EVEN IF THERE IS LEAD OR GALVANIZED PIPING AT THE SERVICE LINE IT MAY BE AT SOME POINT INSIDE THE ABOUT BUILDING THOSE PIPES WERE RENEWED, THERE MAY NOT BE LEAD OR LEAD SOLDER BUT THE BEST WAY TO FIND IDENTITY IS TO TEST THAT WATER.

THERE IS INFORMATION IN THE FAQ FOR THAT AND WE KNOW THAT THIS IS A SENSITIVE CONDITIONS OF CONVERSATION.

I THINK THAT'S WHY THE RULE EXISTS AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS NATIONWIDE. AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION WE RECEIVE -- OH AND YES, THE LAST QUESTION IS CAN I SCHEDULE FPUA TO COME COMPLETE MY INVENTORY RIGHT NOW? AND THE ANSWER FOR THAT IS NOT RIGHT 90.

BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY UNTHOANS WE ARE OUT IN THE FIELD EVERYWHERE. AND WE'RE TRYING TO VERIFY SERVICE LINES THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE TERRITORY SO WE'RE THOUGHT ABLE TO BE SCHEDULING SPECIFIC ONES.

SO THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO. HOWEVER IF YOU LIKE WHAT YOU CAN DO TO HELP SPEED UP THE PROCESS IS TO LOOK AT THE CUSTOMER SURVEY. AND THE CUSTOMER SURVEY AGAIN WILL BE SENT. THERE ARE INSTRUCTIONS HOW TO DO IT. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO MAKE SOME MORE MATERIALS. WE HAVE BEEN TEXTING A LITTLE BIT WITH FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH EASIER MATERIALS TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE HOW TO DO IT. BUT IF YOU SUBMIT THAT SURVEY THAT WILL GO STRAIGHT TO THE LEAD AND COPPERS SPECIALISTS WHO ARE THEN VERIFYING WHAT YOU HAVE SUBMITTED AN THAT ASK HELP SPEED UP THE PROCESS. SO SOME SFT CUSTOMER COMMUNICATIONS SO FAR WE HAVE BEEN TESTING ON FACEBOOK.

WE HAVE LAYERED OUT EVERYTHING IN THIS PRESENTATION TODAY AND THEN SOME. OF COURSE WE SENT THE PHYSICAL CUSTOMER LETTERS TO THE CUSTOMERS, AT THE SERVICE PROPERTY. SO THOSE WENT OUT LAST WEEK AND WE DEVELOPED THE NEW RESOURCE PAGE CED CAITED TO LED AND

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OKAY SO THE ADDRESS IS FPOA.COM TOLLED BY LEAD/COPPER.

AND WHAT YOU CAN SEE HERE LEAD AND COPPER WORKING TOGETHER FOR SAFE CLEAN WATER. THE BEGINNING OF THE PAGE IS JUST TO WELCOME HOME FOLKS TOWER LEAD AND COPPER PAGE, IT IS DISCUSS A MAYOR TIFS OF WHAT I'M PRESENTING TODAY, TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT ARE WE DOING, WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIS.

AND WE HAVE A VIDEO. THIS WAS ALSO SHARED ON FACEBOOK IN THE E-MAILS. THAT WAS PARTICULARLY BY THE AMERICAN WATER WORKS ASSOCIATION.

AND IT'S A CARTOON, IT'S REALIZE VERY TRENDILY, TELLING THE STORY WHY WE ARE DOING THIS.

WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT LEAD IN DRINKING WATER AT ALL AND WHERE IS THIS INVENTORY? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR? IT DOES A GOOD JOB OF SUMMARIZING IT.

WE TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LEAD IN DRINKING WATER, WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE DOING IN GENERAL, WHICH TALKS ALSO ABOUT THE WATER PLANT ITSELF AND HOW WE TEST TORE LEAD AND HOW WE MINIMIZE LEECHING. THE HISTORICAL SERVICE LINE, TUCK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. AND FINALLY, THIS IS THE SERVICE LINE VIEWER. THIS IS THE INVENTORY ITSELF WHICH YOU CAN SEE CERTIFIED THE PAGE OR THERE'S A LINK HERE THEM TO THE BOLD WHERE YOU CAN VIEW IT AS A FULL PAGE.

I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT IN THE MAP 90 SO I DON'T MESS UP THE INTERNET EXPLORER. YOU CAN TYPE IN YOUR ADDRESS FOR EXAMPLE HERE OR YOU CAN ZOOM IN.

SO ALL I'M DOING IS ZOOMING IN RIGHT THOUSAND.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE CLEAR AS IN DIAMONDS.

THE DIAMONDS, ARE LOCATED AT THE AREA WHERE THE METER BOX IS. SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THEM KIND OF ALONG THE ROAD. THEY ARE GOING TO BE ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE FOR THE PROPERTIES.

THERE'S DIFFERENT COLORS TO INDICATE DIFFERENT NOTIFICATIONS SO BLUE SQUARE WOULD INDICATE NONLEAD.

GRAY DIAMOND WOULD INDICATE UNKNOWN AND RED IS CLEAR WOULD INDICATE LEAD OR GALVANIZED MATERIAL.

IF YOU CLICK ONE OF THE BOXES I'M GOING TO CLICK AN UNKNOWN.

HERE, YOU CAN SEIZE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION.

THE THOISKS CATEGORY, UNKNOWN. THIS SHOWS YOU WHAT LETTER WAS SENT TO YOUR PROPERTY. THEN IT TELLS YOU THE UTILITY RESPONSIBILITY. THAT IS WHAT JOHN WAS PRESENTING EARLIER ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF OUR DIAGRAM.

THAT IS WHERE THE UTILITY OWNS THE PIPES.

WE'VE ALREADY DETERMINED THAT THAT IS NONLEAD AND PLASTIC.

YOU CAN SEE THAT HERE. THEN THE CUSTOMER'S RESPONSIBILITY IS UNKNOWN. SO EVEN IN CASES WHERE WE THOOU ALREADY THAT THE FPUA SIDE WAS KNOWN NONLEAD, IF THE CUSTOMER SIDE WAS NOT YET KNOWN, WAS UNKNOWN, IT STILL RECEIVES AN UNKNOWN NOTIFICATION. AND THERE WAS A LOT OF THIS IN THE SYSTEM BECAUSE OF A LOT OF THE OLDER TA FACILITIES EVEN IF THE PIPE HAD BEEN UPDATED. I THINK THE TRIANGLES ARE FOR THE GALVANIZED, SO YELLOW IS FOR GALVANIZED REQUIRING REPLACEMENT AND WE CAN SEE HERE THE UTILITY'S RESPONSIBILITY, NONLEAD PLASTIC IT'S BEEN CONFIRMED BUT ON THE PRIVATE SIDE WE HAVE INDICATED THAT IT IS GALVANIZED REQUIRING REPLACEMENT. YOU SEE A LOT OF BLUE, YOU ALSO SEE A LOT OF GRAY. THIS IS US WORKING.

WE'RE TRYING TO COMPLETE THIS AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.

IF YOU CONTINUE SCROLLING, YOU SEE WE'RE COMMUNICATING THIS PROCESS IS ONGOING. THIS IS THE BEGINNING STAGES OF A MAJOR INVENTORY OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATE INFRASTRUCTURE.

AHIGHWAY YOU CAN HELP. THE LETTERS FOR UNKNOWN, IT SAID HOW CAN YOU HELP AND WE PROVIDED THIS QR CODE, YOU CAN TAKE A PHOTO ON YOUR PHONE AND ACTUALLY FILL OUT THE SURVEY ON YOUR TONE OR DO IT HERE. I AM GOING TO CLICK THE SURVEY SO THAT WE CAN ALL SEE IT. SO THE RESIDENT, YOU COMPLETE

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TYPE OF OCCUPANCY, AND THEN PIPE INFORMATION.

SO THIS IMAGE HERE IS INTENDED TO HELP DETERMINE THE MATERIAL OF YOUR WATER SERVICE LINE. AND YOU CAN SEE THE -- WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING ON YOUR SERVICE LINES THEMSELVES, THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE DEPENDING ON WHICH ONE IT MAY BE, LEAD, GALVANIZED, CONNER, PLASTIC. TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE WHERE TO DIG AND WHAT TO LOOK AT, THIS WILL BE USEFUL TO YOU BUT THIS IS SOME GUIDANCE SO YOU CAN DETERMINE.

IF YOU KNOW IT, THE YEAR YOUR HOME OR BUILDING WAS BUILT.

THIS IS HELPFUL INFORMATION FOR THIS INVENTORY.

WHAT YOU'VE DETERMINED THE WATER SERVICE LINE MATERIAL TO BE, BASED ON WHAT HEUR SEEING AND THE PICTURES.

AND IF YOU -- THE SOURCES OF INFORMATION, VISUAL INSPECTIONS, PLUMGHTS RECORDS, LEAD TEST KIT YOU CAN LET US KNOW. AND IF YOU HAVE ACCESS TO YOUR CAMERA IF YOU CLICK YES YOU CAN TAKE A PHOTO AND ATTACH IT AND SEND IT RIGHT TO US SO WE CAN ALSO LOOK AND DO A VERIFICATION, MAKE SURE YOU SEE WHAT WE SEE.

AND KNOWN I WANTED TO TAKE THIS MOMENT TO SAY AS WELL, AS I MENTIONED WE'RE ADAPTING AND SO JUST IN THE LAST WEEK WE'VE RECEIVED QUITE A BIT OF CUSTOMER NOT JUST QUESTIONS BUT REQUESTS FOR MODIFICATIONS. ONE OF THEM WAS TO CHANGE THAT LEAD SCRATCH IMAGE WHICH WE DID ALREADY.

WE UPDATED THE LANGUAGE SO IT WAS CLEAR FOR FORT PIERCE.

WE ACTUALLY WENT OUT AND SELF TESTED THIS SURVEY ON US TO MAKE SURE IT WORKED WHICH IT DOES WHICH IS WONDERFUL.

WE YOU UPDATED THAT IMAGE. WE HAD CHERS CALL CUSTOMER SERVICE AND ASK US TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL COMMENTS SECTION TO THE SURVEY WHICH WAS NOT ORIGINALLY HERE.

THIS WAY CUSTOMERS CAN TYPE SOME NOTES IN IN ADDITION TO WHAT THE QUESTIONS ARE IN HERE. SO WE DID THAT FIRST THING THIS MORNING. AND OH, THE NOTIFICATION CATEGORY ACTUALLY ON THE MAP HERE, IF YOU RECALL, THIS SECTION HERE, NOTIFICATION CATEGORY, NONLEAD, UNKNOWN, THIS WAS THOUGHT ON THE ORIGINAL RENDITION OF THE INVENTORY MAP EITHER. AND JUST LAST WEEK WE RECEIVED QUESTIONS FROM CUSTOMERS, PLEASE CAN YOU ADD THAT SO WE CAN VERIFY. SO I SAY THAT TO SAY WE ARE ADAPTING AS WE GO. WE ARE TAKING FEEDBACK AND WORKING WITH IT. AND OAZ, OH THERE WAS ONE ITEME SURVEY AND THE FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS.

I WON'T GO INTO THEM BUT WE HAVE CAN QUITE A NUMBER OF THEM HERE THAT ARE INTENDED TO HELP WITH THIS PROCESS.

YOU CAN JUST CLICK IT AND IT WILL OPEN UP TO ANSWER THE DIFFERENT QUESTIONS FOR YOU. AND IF, THEN, YOU STILL HAVE QUESTIONS, WE HAVE CREATED A DEDICATED E-MAIL ADDRESS LCRR@FPUA.COM. THAT IS GOING DIRECTLY TO OUR LEAD AND COPPER SPECIALISTS AND THEIR STAFF ASSISTANTS SO WE CAN ANSWER THE TARGETED CES QUESTIONS RIGHT AWAY.

AND WITH THAT WE'LL HAPPILY TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AND I DO HEAP, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I DO HOPE THAT THIS WAS INFORMATIVE AND HELPFUL.

>> MS. TEN AND THIS IS AN A H OAVMENTPA MATERIAL RULE NOTE A STATE? FEDERAL.

EVERY WATER UTILITY IN THE COUNTRY IS GOING THROUGH THIS

PROCESS? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> AND IF YOU ARE A COMMUNITY THAT STARTED AND HAVE HIGHWAYS AFTER THE 80S, THEN YOU -- DO YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE --

>> YES, MA'AM. THEY TECHNICALLY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. BUT IF THEY'VE BEEN COMPLETELY BUILT SINCE THE 80S OR LATER IT IS VERY, VERY EASY.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO VERIFY ANYTHING.

BECAUSE THEY ALREADY KNOW THEY WERE CONSTRUCTED AFTER THE LEAD

BAN WAS IN PLACE. >> AND WE'VE BEEN REPLACING PIPE ON OUR SIDE FOR 35 YEARS? SO PORT ST. LUCIE CUSTOMERS ARE GOING TO BE DEBTING THESE LETTERS RIGHT? FROM THE PORT ST. LUCIE WATER UTILITY RIGHT?

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>> I THINK THERE ARE A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT MAY BE RECEIVING THESE LETTERS BUT A LOT OF PORT ST. LUCIE IS NEWER AS WELL BUT SOME OF THEM WILL. GOOD BUT IT'S INCORPORATED IN

1961. >> OKAY THEN YES, MA'AM.

>> OKAY SO I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT NOT JUST FORT PIERCE IS SINGLED OUT. THIS IS THERE ARE RULES FROM

THE EPA. >> YES.

IT WAS IN 2021, PRESIDENT BIDEN RELEASED A MEMO FROM THE WHITE HOUSE TO COMMIT THE UNITED STATES TO BECOMING A LEAD FREE MANDATESICH INCLUDED MANNED ON ON WATER AND PAINT.

AND THIS NOTIFICATION WAS THE EPA'S RESPONSE FOR THE WATER.

>> WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY ALSO IS PROBABLY WATER UTILITIES WERE STOPPING USING LEAD IN THE 1980S, THAT WAS STOPPED BY

FEDERAL LAW PROBABLY? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> ANYTHING OLDER THAN THAT? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> GOT IT, OKAY. ANYBODY ELSE?

COMMISSIONER GAINES. >> THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING TONIGHT LIKE I ASKED YOU TO, TO GET THIS OUT TO THE PUBLIC.

MY CONCERNS ARE THIS: LOAF THE INTERACTION WITH THE INTERNET.

I MEAN WITH THE E-MAILS AND STUFF.

BUT DO WE HAVE A BACKUP PLAN TO HELP YOU GUYS TO GET TO THE INVENTORY THERE OUR RESIDENTS, OUR ELDERLY RESIDENTS OR OUR RESIDENTS THAT DO NOT GO ON THE INTERNET OR WILL NOTE GO ON AND FILL OUT A SURVEY? SO WHAT'S THE LISTEN ORE, I'M SPEAKING SOMEWHAT WITH ELDERLY PARENTS, THEY HAVE NOW BECOME SKEPTICAL OF FILLING OUT ANYTHING ON THE INTERNET.

I'M JUST BEING HONES. SO DO WE -- BEING HONEST.

DO WE HAVE A BACKUP PLAN TO GET THE INFORMATION YOU NEED FOR OUR RESIDENTS THAT MIGHT HAVE READ IT, MIGHT HAVE SAID OKAY, I'M NOT GETTING ON MY COMPUTER OR EVEN THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME, IN MY AREA, THAT DO N NOT HAVE INTERNET SERVICE AND DO NOT HAVE CAPABILITY TO GO ON YOUR WEBSITE. DO WE HAVE A BACKUP PLAN TO GET

INFORMATION TO YOU? >> YES, THE 1.3 MILLION FROM THE ST REVOLVING LOAN FUND, INITIALLY DEDICATED TO PAYING FOR A CONTRACTOR YOU THE COME IN AND BASICALLY EXPAND OUR TEAM TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT IN THE TEELD AND FOCUS ON COMPLETING THE INVENTORY. AND OUR EMPHASIS IS COMPLETING THIS INVENTORY AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

RIGHT NOW WE ARE DOING IT WITH THE TEAM THAT WE HAVE BUT THE GOAL IS TO GET THAT IN PLACE SO THAT THE CONTRACTORS CAN

AUGMENT. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT I'M TRYING TO HELP YOU GUYS OUT. IF YOU SEND ME A LETTER AND I DON'T DO THE INTERNET, RIGHT, HOUSE CAN I GET THE INFORMATION THAT YOU WANT IF I DON'T HAVE INTERNET, AND ONLY THING I SAW WAS IT SAID E-MAIL AT THIS CERTAIN PERSON BUT I DON'T DO THE E-MAILS. SO HOW CAN A CUSTOMER THAT WILL NOT GO ON THE E-MAIL, YOU DIDN'T WANT THEM TO CALL, HOW CAN THEY GET YOU THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE

>> SO WE'RE ACTUALLY TAKING PHONE CALLS.

SO MOST OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE RECEIVED SO FAR AND THE MODIFICATIONS THAT WE'VE MADE HAVE BEEN IN RESPONSE TO PHONE CALLS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED. IF CUSTOMERS CALL OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE LINE THEY WILL BE ROUTED TO LEAD AND COPPER SPECIALISTS WHO ARE EITHER WALKING THEM THROUGH THE PAGE OR JUST TALKING GENERALLY LIKE WE ARE.

AND THAT'S OKAY TOO. >> ALL RIGHT.

HOW ARE WE HANDLING THE TENANT VERSUS THE HOMEOWNER SITUATION, WHEREAS I KNOW -- I SAW THE E-MAIL AND SAW EVERYTHING, TAKE PICTURES, DIG HOLES, TAKE PICTURES, BUT I KNOW A LOT OF TENANTS WILL NOT GO OUT AND DIG ON PRIVATE PROCEED.

SO HOW ARE WE HANDLING THAT SITUATION?

>> SO WE HAVE RECEIVED A COUPLE OF TONE CALLS ABOUT THAT FROM TENANTS WHO ARE TALKING ABOUT NOT FEELING COMFORTABLE DIGGING. THE BEST THING RIGHT THOUSAND IS, THAT WE ARE STILL IN THE TEELD DOING THE INVENTORY.

IF -- FIELD DOING THE INVENTORY.

IF THE TENANTS DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE BUT LETTING THE PLALD DOING THE DIGGING, ITS A MATTER OF US GETTING OUT THERE AND DOING IT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

>> THE ONLY REASON I SAY THAT IS UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE SOME LANDLORD IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT MIGHT HAVE THOUGHT THAT THE TENANT HAS CAUSED THIS PROBLEM AND THE NEXT THING I KNOW I

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SO JUST OUT THERE, LAST QUESTION THEN I'LL LET SOMEBODY ELSE GO. WE ALSO HAVE IN SOME OF THE AREAS THAT YOU HAVE SEEN A LARGE HISPANIC AND CREOLE POPULATION. DO WE HAVE ANY LETTERS IN CREOLE OR SPANISH OR IS EVERYTHING IN ENGLISH?

>> NO, SIR, THE LETTERS IN THE WEBSITE ARE IN ENGLISH.

THE SURVEY CAN BE DONE IN SPANISH.

WE ARE TESTING OUT DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGICALS IN OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE LOBBY THAT ARE ALLOWING US TO TAKE THINGS IN CERTAIN LANGUAGES AND TRANSLATE FOR US. BUT RIGHT NOW, EVERYTHING IS BEING DONE IN ENGLISH. AND THIS WAS SIMPLY THAT WE HAVE BONE RUSHING TO COMMUNICATE AS -- BEEN RUSHING TO COMMUNICATE AS COMPREHENSIVELY AND AS EXETLY AS POSSIBLE SO AT THIS TIME IT IS ALL IN ENGLISH.

>> THAT'S FINE. WE HAD NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS IDEA, WE MIGHT WANT TO GET WITH THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY SCHOOLS.

AND HAVE SOME OF THE CHILDREN ESPECIALLY THE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY REVIEW OR HAVE THIS PRESENTATION TO THEM, SO THEY CAN GO HOME AND ESPECIALLY THE HISPANIC OR OUTER STUDENTS THEY CAN GO HOME AND EXPLAIN TO THEIR TEAMS, YOU KNOW, THEIR MOM, THIS IS WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON ORE FOR MOMS OR DADS THAT DON'T DO THE INTERNET, MOM DID YOU GET THIS LETTER? CAN IS I SEE IT? I CAN GO ON THE INTERNET AND WE CAN TALK AND FILL IT OUT.

JUST IDEA TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT.

BECAUSE THE MORE FEEDBACK -- FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE MORE FEEDBACK YOU GET FROM THE PUBLIC IT IS E-ER FOR US ON THIS SIDE TO IDENTIFY THE AREAS THAT WE NEED TO IDENTIFY. DID I HEAR THAT RIGHT?

>> YES, SIR. >> I'M JUST TRYING TO GET YOUR WAY TO DO THAT. AND SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO USE THESE TEENAGERS TO (INAUDIBLE) KNOWSE EVERYBODY FOSS (INAUDIBLE) INFORMATION AND THEY'RE GOING TO NINE OUT OF TEN TIMES THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE ONES IF YOU ARE GETTING PICTURES THAT THEY'RE OUT THERE DIGGING, THEY'RE OUT THERE TAKING THE PICTURES FOR MEMO AND DAD.

IDEA, IF IT CAN BE DONE, I DON'T WANT TO MESS WITH NO STATUTES, BUT IT IS AN QUID TO TRY TO GET THE -- ESPECIALLY I SAW THE LITTLE CARTOON, YOU DON'T CALL THE CARTOON, THE INFOMERCIAL, WHATEVER YOU CALL IT, IF THAT COULD BE PLAYED SOMEHOW IN THE SCHOOL OR SOMEHOW WITH THE KIDS TO GET BACK TO THE PARENTS IT WILL HELP US OUT.

SO I'LL SIT BACK AND LET SOMEBODY ELSE.

>> ANYBODY? >> I THINK THAT EACH ONE OF US HAD A PRESENTATION PRIORLY FROM THE TEAM.

AND THEY ANSWERED ALL MY QUESTIONS AT THAT TIME.

SO I UNDERSTAND THE PROGRAM. I UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE GOING WITH THIS AND THE CHALLENGES THAT ARE GOING TO BE FACED AND TRYING TO GET THIS ACCOMPLISHMENT.

IT'S A BIG UNDERTAKING BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL THE

INFORMATION YOU'VE PROVIDED. >> YES.

SO FIRST LET ME THANK YOU, COMPREHENSIVE REPORT.

YES, WE TOOK THE BRIEFING, I'VE HAD SOME TIME TO THINK ABOUT THIS. I RECEIVED MY LETTER, AND HAD SOME QUESTIONS. SO COUPLE OF THINGS.

I DON'T WANT TO EXPAND ON COMMISSIONER GAINES COMMENTS.

I APPRECIATE THE LETTERS. I DID BRING UP OUR DIVERSE COMMUNITY. AS WE LOOK AT THIS MAP, THE HISTORIC LINCOLN PARK, NORTHWEST AREA, WHEREVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, IS PROBABLY THIS THE BULL'S EYE FOR THIS BECAUSE THAT IS ONE OF THE OLDER COMMUNITIES.

SO I KNOW WE HAVE SOME SERIOUS LANGUAGE BARRIERS THERE THAT WE NEED TO FIND A WAY, I THINK HE GAVE AN EXCELLENT SUGGESTION.

I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST WHAT ARE WE DOING TO MOBILIZE AND GO INTO THE COMMUNITY TO TALK TO THE COMMUNITY WITH THIS TYPE OF INFORMATION? MAYBE A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, LITTLE MORE BROKEN DOWN, YOU KNOW, BUT WHAT ARE WE DOING TO GO INTO THE COMMUNITY TO TALK THE HA HAITIAN COMMUNITY, TO TK

TO THEM IN THEIR LANGUAGE? >> YES, SIR, THE UTILITY WORKS VERY CLOSELY WITH THE UTILITY ADVISORY COMMUTE, THE CITIZEN LED ADVISORY COMMUNITY WHICH INCLUDES APPOINTEES FROM EACH OF YOUR POSITIONS TO HELP US GET CONNECTED WITH GROUPS LIKE THAT. WE DID AS WE MENTIONED IN OUR EARLIER PRESENTATION, WE DID MEET WITH THE UAC AND PROVIDE

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THAT'S BEEN SO FAR ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL WAYS TO GET US CONNECTED WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ORS IS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THE TOPIC. -- ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THE TOPIC. ONE OF THE SO SO INTEREST, IT SEEMS LIKE WHEN WE ARE PRESENTING THERE WOULD BE SOME INTEREST IN THESE VERY INTERESTING THINGS.

BUT WHAT WE FIND WHEN IT'S TIME TO MEET AND PRESENT THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYWHERE TO GO.

SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THEUAC.

WE DID ASK THE UAC TO TALK ABOUT THESE LETTERS WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS. TO PLEASE CONSIDER PLACES WHERE WE MAY BE ABLE TO PRESENT. AND WE ARE -- WE'RE LEANING IN THAT DIRECTION RIGHT THOUSAND. BUT I DID HEAR THE RECOMMENDATION TO SEE ABOUT REACHING OUT TO SCHOOLS WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING I'VE HEAD UP SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO TIEND A WAY TO TRY AND CONNECT THERE. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO CONNECT THERE AND THEN I'M HEARING AN INTEREST IN LANGUAGE.

AND SO THAT ISN'T SOMETHING WE'VE DONE YET BUT I AGREE THAT IT'S IMPORTANT AND SO SOMETHING AS WELL THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO.

>> I'D LIKE FOR US TO ACCELERATE THAT.

LANGUAGE IS IMPORTANT. ESPECIALLY WE NEED TO GET AHEAD IN THIS BEFORE THE COMMUNITY GETS THEIR INTERPRETATION, WHICH THEN WE HAVE TO PLANS FACTUAL INFORMATION, I KNOW MS. TAPIA TRANSLATES A LOT OF STUFF TO SPANISH, BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO, I KNOW SEVERAL IN THE CREOLE COMMUNITY THAT WOULD BE HAPPY TO TRANSLATE THIS IMMEDIATELY INTO CREOLE.

THIS IS A SENSE OF URGENCY. THE PANIC BUTTON IS NOT HIT YET BUT WE NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT AND I THINK COMMISSIONER GAINES WITH THE SCHOOL WITH US AND IF I HEAR RIGHT, THE ACCEPTANCE OF US SHARING WITH YOU, COMMUNITY GROUPS THAT WE ARE ALREADY AFFILIATED WITH, TO BRING YOU INTO, TRINS I MEET WITH FAITH LEADERS EVERY SECOND TUESDAY.

I'LL HAVE IT YOU TO COME IN AND TALK TO THIS GROUP THAT ARE TATE LEADERS, ET CETERA, SO WE CAN GET INTO THESE GROUPS, PARISHES, WHATEVER WE NEED TO, AND THERE IS A WHOLE THOSE OF US WHO JUST CAME OFF OF THIS CAMPAIGN, WE ARE WELL AWARE OF THESE COMMUNITIES AND NEED TO GET THIS IDENTITY THERE AND WE WILL HELP YOU WITH THAT. WHAT IS THE BEST WAY, E-MAIL YOU, LET YOU KNOW THAT AND MAKE SURE YOU GET IN FRONT OF THESE AUDIENCES WITH THAT. WE NEED FOR YOU TO BE PREPARED WITH NATIVE LANGUAGES, IF YOU DO, SPEAK CREOLE, IT HELPS TO REALLY GIVE THAT COMFORT. I HEARD SOMETHING IN YOUR PRESENTATION ABOUT THE 1.3 MILLION, RIGHT?

>> YES. >> NOW AGAIN THAT IS MONEY THAT WILL BE USED ON THE PUBLIC SIDE TO CHECK THIS.

SO WHAT I HEARD, THOUGH, IS MY CONCERN IS OKAY THAT'S THE PUBLIC SIDE AND IF WE KNOW FROM THE WATER MAIN TO RIGHT UP TO SIDE. THE WE KNOW THAT THAT IS EITHER LEAD OR GALVANIZED MATERIAL OR WHATEVER, THE LIKELIHOOD, THE PROBABILITY OF THE OTHER HALF WE JUST DON'T KNOW, RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHERE THE CONCERN COMES IN FROM ME AS I'VE SPOKEN WITH YOU GUYS WHEN YOU MET WITH ME, HOW DO WE HELP WITH THAT? WHAT I HEARD TONIGHT IS YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE OR MAYBE THERE'S SOME GUIDANCE HERE THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW PEOPLE CAN BEGIN TO INVESTIGATE THEIR OWN PROPERTIES.

SO IS THAT ONE OF THE FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS, IS IT A VIDEO, IS IT SOMETHING TO HELP THAT PEOPLE CAN KNOW HOW TO GO AND INVESTIGATE AND FIND OUT?

>> YES. THERE IS SOME INFORMATION AVAILABLE. AT THIS TIME IT IS MOSTLY GUIDING PROPERTY OWNERS TO REACH OUT TO LICENSED PLUMBERS TO HELP THEM WITH THAT PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ACCURATE. BUT THAT, AND HOW TO DIG AND CHECK FOR YOUR OWN COMFORTABLE ARE TWO THINGS I'D LIKE TO MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPREHENSIVE.

WE DON'T HAVE THEM YET BUT WE'RE IN VERY EARLY STAGES.

AND SO THIS WILL BE DONE RELATIVELY QUICKLY.

GOOD OKAY AND THAT WOULD HELP. LAST QUESTION I HAD.

REALLY ON MORE OF ME UNDERSTANDING THE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T GET A LETTER, THAT MAY HAVE BUILT A HOUSE IN THE 80S ON UP, RIGHT? SO HOW IS THAT INFORMATION VERIFIED? FOR INSTANCE, IF THERE WAS AN OLDER HOUSE AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF NEW CONSTRUCTION GOING ON OLD ORE HOUSES NOW, IS THAT VERIFIED THAT -- DID YOU VERIFY THAT MAYBE BY PULLING PLUMBING CONTRACTS, SEE IF THEY REDID PIPE IN THERE? I'M TRYING TO GET AT THAT

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THAT. >> YES, BASICALLY WE USE PROPERTY APPRAISER TO DETERMINE THE YEAR THE HOUSING WAS BUILT

IN. >> OKAY.

>> SO PEOPLE WHO DO MODIFICATION ON THEIR HOUSES WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

SO -- SO BASED ON PROPERTY UPGRADES.

>> MAYBE SOME CAUTION TOO. THAT POPPED OUT TO ME.

I KNOW PEOPLE THAT HAVE PERSONALLY TAKEN SOME OF THESE OLDER HOUSES AND ERRONEOUS VAITED THEM.

AND I DON'T KNOW TO THE EXTENT OF WHERE THEY ARE WHAT THEY'VE DONE BUT YOU'RE TELLING ME TO GET ON THAT NONLIST, IS REALLY BASED ON THE DATE OF THE HOUSE CONSTRUCTION, IT IS THE ONLY THING UNDER 80S BACK TO THE 50S AND 20S IN THIS AREA IS PRETTY MUCH YOU NEED TO BE ON THE LOOKOUT NO MATTER WHAT YOU DID WITH THE HIGHWAYS FOR THE MOST PART?

>> WELL, NEITHER THAT'S THE CASE, HOWEVER IF FPUA HAS GONE IN AND PROVIDE WATER TO THE EXPANSION FOR THIS E-MAIL, THE HOUSES ARE OLDER WE KNOW ABOUT THE UTILITY, IT IS NONLEAD.

SO TECHNICALLY IT IS NOT TOTALLY THE YEARS, IT'S ALSO WHEN TPUA IS GOING TO EXPANSION PROGRAM AND MSB TO PUT THE

LINES IN. >> RIGHT, I NO DRINKING, LEADED WATER IS NOT GOOD, RIGHT? I THINK THAT'S IN THE FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS. USING IT TO BATHE ANIMALS ET CETERA, EVERYONE SHOULD BE CAUTIOUS OF THIS I GUESS I'M SAYING EVEN BATHING IN LEADED WATER IF THAT'S THE CASE IS

THAT AN ISSUE? >> NOTICES.

THE MAIN ISSUE WITH LEAD IN DRINKING WATER IS, ESPECIALLY FOR YOUNGER CHILDREN, BABIES AND YOUTH, INGESTING LEAD CAN BE PROBLEMATIC FOR BRAIN DEVELOPMENT.

>> OKAY. >> THE BATHING IS NOT A PROBLEM. AND SAME THING, THE REAL ISSUE IS WHEN YOU'RE YOUNGER AND YOUR BRAIN IS STILL DEVELOPING.

SO IT IS A VERY PARTICULAR POPULATION THAT IS SENSITIVE.

>> OKAY. DID.

>> BUT OTHER THINGS ARE NOT AN ISSUE.

>> I JUST WANT TO BE CAREFUL WITH THOAX AND I WANT TO UNDERSTAND AS WELL. THANK YOU.

>> MS. TENANT, THERE IS A SPANISH SPEAKING ONLY CONGREGATION. AT RONDIEGO, AND THRRS CHURCHES THAT ARE CREOLE CHURCHES, YEAH, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HELP YOU WITH. AND HELP OUR CITIZENS WITH.

COMMISSIONER JAY JOHNSON. >> THANK YOU.

VERY GOOD. SO THE INFORMATION WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US IS BASED ON SOLELY UTILITY AUTHORITY CUSTOMERS, IS

THAT ACCURATE? >> CORRECT.

>> YES, IT'S BASED ON THE CUSTOMER ACCOUNTS.

HERE IS WHY I BRING THIS UP. WE HAVE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY BUT I WOULD THINK WE HAVE SOME NEIGHBORHOODS POTENTIALLY THAT COULD BE ON WELL WATER AND WE DON'T KNOW FULLY IF THEY'RE ON, YOU KNOW, OUR CITY UTILITY SYSTEM, OBVIOUSLY WOULDN'T KNOW THAT WITH AN ACCOUNT. BUT I JUST THINK ABOUT NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE CITY LIMITS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT GRANTS WE TALK ABOUT PROGRAMS WE TALK ABOUT PRIVATE SIDE I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CHECKING ALL THE BOXES TO COLLABORATE WITH OUR COUNTY PARTNERS, TO MAKE SUR BECAUSE THIS IS HAPPENING THIS IS A MANDATE BECAUSE OF PUBLIC UTILITY, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO THAT IS CREATED THIS ROBUST ANALYSIS AND THIS LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE AS A UTILITY COMPANY. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO GO AND VENTURE INTO A GRANT PROCESS AND WE'RE GOING TO USE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER GRANTING FUNDS WE GOT, CDBG WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S VERY HEALTHY, MAKE SURE WE'RE COORDINATING WITH OUR COUNTY.

BECAUSE THERE COULD BE IMMEDIATELY JAIFTZ THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, WHAT'S THE ONE THAT HAS THEIR OWN PRIVATE WATER, SANDAL WOOD ESTATES, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN WATER TREATMENT PLANT WHEN THEY SERVE THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. MAYBE THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THIS, MAYBE THEY'RE NOT. MY POINT IN THE CONVERSATION IS, IF WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT THE PRIATE SIDE KNOWN LET'S LOOK AT ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR HELPING FOLKS ON THE PRIVATE SIDE. YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO BE GRANT MONEYS SPECIFICALLY, I'M GLAD YOU TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT MEANS AND METHODS AND HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DIG INTO, YOU KNOW, UTILIZING THE GRANT MONEYS THAT ARE HERE ON THE SCREEN, THE 1.3 MILLION, YOU KNOW, CREATING A TIME APPROACH, HIRING IN MORE FOLKS TO COORDINATE WITH YOUR TEAM.

THE LAST PART OF MY QUESTION WOULD BE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS,

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>> YES. >> BECAUSE I REMEMBER IT OVER MANY YEARS LOOKING AT THE BUDGET AND SEEING THAT THAT IS HAPPENING. NOW, IS THERE A BALANCE BETWEEN CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT THE CITY IS UNDERTAKING TO WHERE WE'RE H WE'RE ALREADY DOING THE WATER MAIN REPLACEMENTS AND THE SERVICE LINES WITHIN THE PROJECT WITH THIS GALVANIZED PIPING REPLACEMENT PROCESS? I'M NOT SURE HIGHWAY WE BALANCE

THIS. >> OUR TURN TO COORDINATE OUR EFFORTS AND OUR FUNDS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN BE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE. CISNEROSOKS LIKE MR. CYST

HAS A BETTER ANSWER. >> FOR PROJECTS PART OF ROADWAY PROJECTS THAT GET REDONE WE'VE REPLACED THE APPLIANCE THIS THOSE ROADS TYPICALLY. AND I THINK THAT ANSWERS YOUR

QUESTION SPECIFICALLY. >> IT DOES.

>> IN THE ROAD, AND THE SERVICE LATERALS THAT GO TO THE METER.

>> I'D NEVER THOUGHT OF, ODDLY ENOUGH, WITH OUR SERVICE PROJECTS, HERE YOU ARE GETTING READY TO RESURFACE A ROAD, JACK AND HI TEAM WOULD HAVE TO GET INVOLVED BUT THERE'S GALVANIZED SERVICE LINES POSSIBLY UNDER THIS ROAD AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO RESURFACE. YOU ARE COORDINATING, THAT'S HAPPENED OVER MANY YEARS. REBUILDING 8TH STREET OR WHATEVER STREET IT IS AND WE DON'T THINK ABOUT THE REAS THING, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AS RESIDENTS, WE THINK ABOUT NICE SMOOTH ROAD AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR PROVIDING US WITH GOOD WATER. MY MIND JUST WENT TO MANY, MANY LEVELS AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS INFORMATION WITH US. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT IS REQUIRED OF UA FOR TESTING WITHIN THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM? DO YOU HAVE TO GO OUT AND LIKE I DON'T KNOW, TURN A HYDRANT ON? I'D LIKE THE PUBLIC TO KNOW HOW DO YOU DO HAD A? MAYBE YOU GO OUT AND TEST WATER A SAMPLE POINT WITHIN A FIRE HYDRANT ALONG A 1A WHATEVER IT

IS. >> WE TEST THOSE EVERY DAY.

I -- >> GOOD TO KNOW.

>> I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER BUT I WANT TO SAY ANYWHERE FROM 20 TO 30 PER DAY ARE TESTED THROUGHOUT OUR ENTIRE SERVICE AREA AND THEY DO ALL KIND OF TESTING FOR THOSE WATER SAMPLES. ALL THE WAY FROM THE ISLAND TO WEST OF TOWN, NORTHERN PART OF TOWN.

AND THEY DO THAT THROUGHOUT THE WEEK SO THEY ARE CONSTANTLY TESTING THE SYSTEM AND FLUSHING THE SYSTEM TOO IF THEY HAVE TO DO WATER QUALITY CALLS AS WELL. SO.

>> EXCELLENT. THAT IS GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING OUT, YOU KNOW, FOR -- IT'S A SERVICE INDUSTRY, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE LOOKING OUT FOR YOUR CUSTOMERS. SO AS A CUSTOMER I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING THAT. SO IF I DIDN'T WANT TO DIG IN MY YARD AND I DIDN'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THAT PAINSTAKING PROCESS, MAYBE I'VE GOT A ROCK IN MY YARD AND REPLY SERVICE LINE IS UNDERNEATH, I CAN'T TAKE A PIFER FOR YOU.

-- PICTURE FOR YOU. WHERE CAN I TAKE THAT?

>> YOU CAN TEST YOUR WATER FOR LEAD BUT THAT WILL NOT UPDATE THE INVENTORY. THE INVENTORY IS SPECIFIC WITH THE MATERIALS OF THE PIPES SO THAT WILL STILL NEED TO BE DONE. AND REGARDLESS OF THE MATERIALS THAT THEY ARE, YOU CAN TEST YOUR WATER ANYWAY.

THERE IS AN FAQ THAT DIRECTS YOU TO A DATABASE OF CERTIFIED LABORATORIES FOR WATER TESTING. BUT THAT WON'T CHANGE THE NEED

FOR THE INVENTORY. >> NO, BUT IT COULD HELP ME

WITH SOME CONFIDENCE. >> YES, IT MIGHT.

>> THAT MY HOUSE IS OKAY, HOWEVER I'M STILL GOING TO DIG A HOLE AND TAKE A PICTURE FOR YOU.

>> THE SERVICE LINE, THE PRIVATE SIERD IS FROM THE METER TO THE HOUSE, SOMEWHERE ALONG THAT LINE THERE IS NO SPECIFIC POINT THAT YOU NEED TO TEST IT. SOMEWHERE ALONG THAT LINE THAT IS NOR ACCESSIBLE, YOU COULD DIG.

>> RAIMPLE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I THINK THERE IS AN EPA RULE THAT TELLS YOU YOU CAN FLUSH IT FOR 30 SECONDS OR MORE YOU THE HAVE ANY DOUBT POTENTIALLY, BEFORE YOU DRINK YOU FLUSH IT FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.

CAN YOU REMIND ME OF THAT? >> YES, ESPECIALLY FOR CUSTOMERS WHO ARE TOLD THAT THEY HAVE CONFIRMED LEAD OR GALVANIZED PIPE THERE IS AN FAQ FOR I'VE BEEN TOLD I HAVE THIS, WHAT CAN I DO. IT'S ALSO CONTAINED IN THE THREE PAGES PART OF THE LETTER. AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO, SUCH AS FLUSHING YOUR WATER BEFORE YOU USE IT IN THE MORNING. THE MAIN THEN WITH LEAD IN WATER IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE WATER ITSELF DOESN'T HAVE THE LEAD IT'S JUST SITTING IN THE PIPES, IT CAN LEECH INTO THE

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SO IF YOU ARE NOTE SHOWERING OR, YOU KNOW -- NOT SHOWERING OR WASHING YOUR HANDS, IN THE MORNING OR THE NEXT TIME YOU ARE ABOUT TO USE IT YOU CAN FLUSH YOUR WATER FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. THAT IS IN THE FAQ THAT MAY BE 30 SECONDS. AND THAT HELPS TO KIND OF FLUSH OUT. THIS IS OF COURSE A TEMPORARY MEASURE. WE UNDERSTAND THAT NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR THAT. IT'S ABOUT THE PIPES.

IT'S NOTE ABOUT THE WATER. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO TIEND FUNDING TO HELP -- FIND FUNDING TO HELP NOT HAVE TO DO

THAT. >> THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES. >> GUYS YOU UP HERE BEING JEREMIAH, TONIGHT, COMMON SENSE FOR THE COMMON FOLKS LIKE MYSELF. WHEN YOU SAY FLUSH YOUR WATER, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SAY FLUSH YOUR WATER, I'M GOING TO BE HONEST, FIRST THING I AM DOING IS DIAGNOSE AROUND FLUSHING MY TOILETS. IF I'M THINKING THAT, I'M NOT

TRYING TO BE FUNNY. >> IT IS AN INSIDER TERM.

>> FLUSHING THE TOILET WORKS TOO BUT OPEN THE TAPS.

>> JUST WANT TO -- >> CONCERNED ABOUT THE DRINKING WATER TAPS SO YOUR SINK OR YOUR REFRIGERATOR BUT SHOWER YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT OR TOILET BUT TYPICALLY THE DRINKING WATER TAP. JUST OPEN THE TAWS IT AND LET

IT RUN. >> WE'RE NOTE SURE THE FAQ --

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT I MISSED. OKAY.

LAST THING CAN YOU DO ME A FAVOR? CAN YOU GO TO YOUR LAST PAGE, WHERE YOU HAD THAT QUESTION IF THEY HAVE E-MAILS, THE E-MAIL ADDRESS, I WANT YOU TO PUT THAT BACK UP THERE FOR ME FOR -- AND THIS IS THE CHER, THIS E-MAIL TO FOR ALL OF THE PASTORS OR DEACONS OR ANYBODY IN THE CHURCHES IN THESE AREAS THAT ARE LISTENING TO THIS MEETING, BECAUSE I KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND I KNOW YOU'RE SITTING THERE WATCHING US, WRITE THIS E-MAIL DOWN.

WRITE THIS E-MAIL DOWN AND SUNDAY OR WHENEVER YOUR NEXT CHURCH MEETING, PLEASE DISCUSS THIS WITH YOUR PEOPLE THAT COMB TO YOUR CHURCH. TAKE THE TEN -- THAT COME TO YOUR CHURCH. TAKE THE TEN MINUTES DURING ANNOUNCEMENTS AND DISCUSS THIS BECAUSE WE NEED YOUR HELP TO HELP US. THEY CAN'T DO IT BY THEMSELVES, THEY'RE TRYING EVERYTHING THEY CAN, THEY'RE MANDATED, WE NEED YOUR HELP BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE EARS TO THE PEOPLE WHO COME TO YOUR CHURCH. HERE IS THE E-MAIL RIGHT HERE.

HAVE SOMEBODY IN YOUR CHURCH WRITE THEM.

AND IF THEY NEED TO GET TOGETHER TO COME AND EXPLAIN, LET THEM KNOW. AND I TOOK THIS TIME TO SAY THIS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN WITH YOU GUYS WHEN WE HAD THIS WASTE WATER, REMEMBER THAT WASTE WATER MOVE AND WE SET UP, YOU DOESN'T GOT TO SAY IT, I'LL SAY IT AND WE SET UP TIMES AND YOU DICE BROUGHT FOOD, YOU GUYS BROUGHT EVERYTHING OUT THERE.

AND WE HAVE WHAT, FIVE, SIX PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE.

SO I UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS ARE DOING YOUR JOB.

SO I'M PUTTING IT OWN US TOO. BECAUSE THIS IS A COMMUNITY EFFORT. SO AGAIN, HERE'S THE E-MAIL.

WHO IS THE PHONE NUMBER. GO IN THERE AND DO WHATEVER WE GOT TO DO, TO GET THE WORD OUT FOR OUR COMMITTEE.

AND YES, I'M PUTTING IT ON THE PASTORS AND OTHER FAITH LEADERS AND COMMUNITY LEADERS IN OUR COMMUNITY ESPECIALLY THE LINCOLN PARK AREA BECAUSE THAT IS THE OLDEST AREA IN FORT PIERCE THAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT.

AND LET'S GET THIS INVENTORY DONE SO WE THOUGH.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES I APPRECIATE THAT.

IT IS WITHOUT A DOUBT A TIME EFFORT BETWEEN THE CUSTOMER THE

FPUA AND EVERYBODY ELSE. >> I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THIS IS NOTHING NEW, NO CAUSE FOR ALARM.

WE ARE THE SAME CITY TODAY AS WE WERE YESTERDAY.

WE ARE JUST -- THIS IS A GOOD THING TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS INVENTORY AND SO WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.

IT'S GOING TO COST MONEY AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE TIME BUT IT ISN'T SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE ALARMED ABOUT.

>> RIGHT. AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO COMMUNICATE AS THESE INSPECTIONS GET DONE SO THERE'S A HIGHER DEGREE OF CONFIDENCE AND TRUST IN THE SERVICE TAP, YES, MA'AM, ABSOLUTELY, YOU'RE RIGHT.

IT IS AN EPA RULE, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT OF A MIDDLE MAN BUT YOU MADE THE RULE AND YOU ADOPTED IT.

>> I'LL SAY AT THE BEGINNING, IT IS THE BEGINNING OF A PROCESS TOWARDS LEAD FREE AND WE CAN'T GET THERE UNLESS WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE IN THE SYSTEM, IN THE FIRST PLACE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.

WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ESPECIALLY ON THE PRIVATE SIERD

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THIS IS THE BEGINNING. >> BUT IN A WAY IT'S NOT A BEGINNING BECAUSE WE AS A COMPANY HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR 35 YEARS AND AS A COUNTRY WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ALLOWED TO HAVE LEAD PIPES IN HOMES FOR THAT LENGTH OF TIME. SO IT'S REALLY JUST THE OLDER HOMES. IT'S REALLY JUST THE OLDER

HOMS. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> RIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR SPENDING THE TIME. WE APPRECIATE IT.

>> IF I MAY, I'LL E-MAIL THAT PRESENTATION, WE'LL GET THAT UP SO IT'S ATTACHED TO THE JEANDLE TOO IF ANYBODY MISSED IT.

WE'LL HAVE THAT INFORMATION READILY AVAILABLE.

THANK YOU. >> OKAY WE'LL MOVE ON.

[11. CONSENT AGENDA]

>> IS THERE ANY ITEM THAT ANY COMMISSIONER WOULD LIKE TO PULL? GOOD MAYOR I'D LIKE TO PULL

ITEMS B ANDD. >> B AS IN BOY AND --

>> DHAIFD, YES. >> ANY OTHER ITEMS? WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE REST OF THE AGENDA?

>> MOVE TO APPROVE THE REST OF THE AGENDA.

>> SECOND. >> THERE'S A MOTION.

CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >> COMERGTS BRODERICK, YES, COMMISSIONER GAINES, YES, COMMISSIONER C JOHNSON, YES, COMMISSIONER J JOHNSON, YES, AND MAYOR HUDSON.

[b. Approval of an Agreement between the City of Fort Pierce and the Economic Council of St. Lucie County, Inc. to provide services from October 1, 2024, to September 30, 2025, for an amount not to exceed $62,500.]

>> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. >> I BELIEVE IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE IDENTIFY WHAT THIS MONEY IS BEING EXPENDED FOR.

WE HAVE PTASH FROM THE ADC IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT.

MADAM MAYOR CAN I REQUEST THAT HE COME UP AND MAKE A COUPLE OF

COLTS? >> YES.

>> AS A PREQUELL I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE UNDERTAKING THAT THIS COMMISSION HAS PUT INTO MOTION I BELIEVE IS PROBABLY THE MOST CRITICALLY IMPORTANT UNDERTAKING THAT WE CAN BECOME INVOLVED WITH. AND WHAT I'M REFERRING TO IS THE CREATION OF A JOBS CORRIDOR THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED SPECIFICALLY WITH THIS PROGRAM. AND IN A DISCUSSION I HAD WITH PETE, IT CAME TO LIGHT THAT HE IDENTIFIED ACTIVITIES THAT ARE ALREADY TAKING PLACE THAT I AS A SITTING COMMISSIONER WASN'T EVEN AWARE OF. SO I THOUGHT IT WAS PRUDENT TO HAVE HIM REPORT ON THAT. BUT HAVING SAID THAT I BELIEVE WHAT PETE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS FOR US THIS EVENING IS SIMPLY THE TICH OF THE ICEBERG AS TO WHERE THIS PROGRAM CAN GO. I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO

PETE FOR A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. >> MR. TESH.

>> I'M PETE TESH PRESIDENT OF THE DIS LUCIE EDC.

JEREMIAH CONGRATULATIONS, WE'RE GOING TO MISS YOU, APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP AND STATESMANSHIP.

SEEMS LIKE JUST YESTERDAY YOU WERE RUNNING DOWN FER NRVEGHTSANDINA STREET PUTTING SIGNS IN PEOPLE'S YARDS.

COMMISSIONER C. JOHNSON, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR REELECTION, WE APPRECIATE YOUR HELP.

LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU IN THE FUTURE, LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH MR. TYLER AS COMMISSIONER-ELECT. SO ALSO MS. COX AND MS. HEDGES, APPRECIATE YOU FORMALIZING OUR AGREEMENT.

IT IS A SMALL THING BUT VERY IMPORTANT TO US AND I KNOW IT MEANS THE SAME TO YOU. AND COMMISSIONER BRODERICK JUST TO TOUCH ON A FEW THINGS ABOUT THE JOBS CORPS WHICH WE BELIEVE IS VERY IMPORTANT, I'M GLAD JAVI CISNEROS IS HERE, HE'S A PARTNER IN THE ENDEAVOR. WE'VE BEEN ACTIVELY WORKING WITH GETTING THE JOBS CORRIDOR UP AND GOING, GOING THE NEXT STEP PROVIDING YOU WITH A COMPREHENSIVE LINE OF GOING FORWARD. WE'LL BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS TO COMMENT ON OUR PROGRESS.

BUT JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT COMMISSIONER BRODERICK MENTIONED I THINK IS IMPORTANT. WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF OTHER BUSINESSES ALREADY RELOCATE ALONG THE KING'S HIGHWAY CORRIDOR. ONE OF THEM IS APOLLO GROUP, A MIAMI BASED COMPANY THAT IS A CRUISE SHIP, RIGHT ON THE CORNER OF ORANGE AVENUE AND KINGS HIGHWAY.

THEY HAVE ALSO RECEIVED FOREIGN TRADE ZONE STATUS.

BUT THEY'LL BE PROVIDING ALL TYPES OF GOODS FOR THE CRUISE SHIP INDUSTRY. AND THEY ANTICIPATE HAVING 200

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ANOTHER COMPANY IS BROAD RANGE LOGISTICS AND THEY ARE ONE OF THE LARGEST THIRD PETER LOGISTICS PROVIDER IN THE NATION. THEY HAVE TAKEN THE TOMORROWER SILVERMAN BUILDING WE IS ON OCOCHOBEE, THEY'LL BE USING HALF OF THAT FOR THEIR LOGISTICS SERVICES AND THEN SUBLEASING THE REST OF IT FOR OTHER COMPANIES THAT NEED WAREHOUSING DISTRIBUTION, AND THE VALUE-ADDED OF LOGISTICS TO GET THEIR PRODUCTS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY OR EVEN INTERNATIONALLY. ALSO, AMAZON IS FULLY STAFFED.

IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE HAD A THEY STARTED JUST THIS SUMMER.

AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE WELL OVER A THOUSAND PEOPLE.

SO IN JUST THE COURSE OF SIX MONTHS WE'VE HAD 2.5 MILLION SQUARE FEET OCCUPIED. SO THE FACT THAT UNFORTUNATELY, WE LOST ANOTHER MILLION SQUARE FEET WITH THE LARGE STONE LOT BUILDING THERE SEEMS TO BE STRONG ACTIVITY.

JUST A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS. TREASURE COAST FOOD BANK AND THEIR NEW BUILDING IS WELL UNDERWAY AT ORANGE 95 COMMERCE CENTER, 100,000 SQUARE FEET STATE-OF-THE-ART BUILDING AND THEN ALSO ASHLEY CAPITAL HAS COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY ON THE TREASURE COAST RESEARCH PARK.

ASHLEY CAPITAL IS ONE OF THE LARGEST INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPERS IN THE NATION AND THEY HAVE GREAT PLANS FOR THE PROPERTY THERE AT TREASURE COAST RESEARCH PARK IN TERMS OF INDUSTRY AND NEW FACILITIES. SO THIS IS ALL THERE FOR THE GREATER CITY OF FORT PIERCE. ONE THING -- FOR THE GREAT CITY OF FORT PIERCE. ONE OF THE THING WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE WERE HERE IN AUGUST IS BEING ABILITY TO QUANTIFY WHAT THE POTENTIAL ECONOMIC IMPACT WOULD BE.

SO WE HAVE COMMISSIONED THE ECONOMIC STRATEGY CENTER OUT OF ATLANTA TO BEGIN UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE DIRECT, INDIRECT AND INDUCED ECONOMIC BENEFITS WILL BE OF HAVING THIS COMMERCE CENTER BUILT OUT. PROBABLY WON'T BE ABLE TO MEASURE EVERYTHING BUT GIVEN WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE BUILDINGS AND THE POTENTIAL OF THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, WE'LL GIVE YOU A PRETTY GOOD ESTIMATE OF NOT ONLY THE ECONOMIC IMPACT BUT ALSO THE DIRECT FISCAL BENEFITS.

SO REMEMBER, WE'RE ALL ABOUT JOB CREATION AND EXPANDING THE TAX BASE AND THEN ALSO MAKING THE METERS RUN.

SO THAT'S PRETTY EXCITING STUFF.

WE ARE ALREADY UNDERWAY WITH AGREEMENTS WITH OUR SUBCONTRACTORS TO BEGIN THE PLANNING PROCESS FOR YOU.

ONE THING IS OUTREACH, IN JANUARY WE WILL GET IN FRONT OF THE KINGS HIGHWAY PROPERTIES ASSOCIATION, HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THEM ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING.

SO I'M REALLY EXCITED, ALONG WITH YOU ALL, THAT WE HAVE THIS GREAT OPPORTUNITY, IT IS NOT JUST A PIPE DREAM THAT WE HAVE COMPANIES THAT ARE GROWING AND EXPARNDING IN THAT AREA.

AND JUST A COUPLE OF POLITICAL ITEMS, DECEMBER 2ND IS THE NEXT EDC LUNCH. MEASURED FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS OUR ECONOMIC PROGRESS. SO HE'S GOING TO TELL US WHERE WE WERE IN 2014 AND WHERE WE ARE IN 2024.

PRETTY EXCITING INFORMATION, THING ABOUT BILL IS HE NEVER SUGAR COATS ANYTHING. YOU KNOW, HE WILL TELL US ABOUT OUR PROGRESS BUT HE'LL TELL US ABOUT OUR CHALLENGES TOO, IT'S LIKE HEY, DON'T LET THIS GO TO YOUR HEAD.

YOU STILL GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO IN TERMS OF WAGES AND HOUSEHOLD INCOME AND GETTING EVERYBODY INTO WELL PAYING JOBS. AND THEN ON JANUARY 30TH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY SUMMIT.

WE THINK THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT IN THE FACT THAT ALONG WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND ST. LUCIE COUNTY, YOU DID THE HOISTING ASSESSMENT AND NEEDS STUDY.

WE SAW GREAT INFORMATION IN THAT.

THERE IS 85 PAGES OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ALL OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ALONG WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR CAN ENGAGE IN. AND HOPEFULLY, AMERICAN MOVE

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SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, MADAM MAYOR.

I KNOW YOU GOT MORE THINGS ON THE AGENDA.

BUT THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME IN FRONT OF YOU ALL.

AND IF I DON'T SEE YOU, WISHING YOU AND YOUR TEAMS AND RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE A HAPPY THANKSGIVING.

>> THANK YOU MR. TESH. THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING TO LIVE IN FORT PIERCE, YOU ARE ONE OF THE 500 BEST PEOPLE TO KNOW IN WEST FLORIDA SOMETHING LIKE THAT?

>> SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> QUESTIONS OF MR. TESH?

>> MR. TESH THANK YOU. SO IF I HER HEAR YOU RIGHT, WE STILL HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO GROW ALONG KINGS HIGHWAY AND I'M ASSUMING THAT THIS CONTRACT FOR SERVICES WILL HELP US REALIZE THAT AND HELP US HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE WORLD TO SEE WHERE WE CAN AND BRINGING THAT TO FORT PIERCE.

THAT IS BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE GETTING IN THIS.

>> YES, SIR, AND MS. COX CAN CONFIRM THIS.

BUT THIS IS A FORMAL AGREEMENT WHICH WE'VE DONE ALL ALONG.

>> RIGHT, OKAY. >> PRIDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR THE CITY. BUT MADE MENTION OF THE FACT THAT WE ARE GOING TO ENGAGE IN THIS JOBS CORRIDOR ENDEAVOR.

>> JUST A QUICK QUESTION THEN. SO THAT'S KIND OF, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW MANY PARCELS ARE CITY VERSUS COUNTY ALONG KINGS BUT I GOES WE'RE IDENTIFYING THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE THERE BUT WE'LL WORK TO BRING THEM INTO THE CITY THE FOES ARE NOT AT THAT POINT. LOOK TO SEE HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

THANK YOU. >> YETS.

>> THANK YOU MR. TESH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE

ALREADY. >> MY QUICK FOLLOW UP COMMENT IS THAT THIS IS A PARTICULAR ISSUE THAT I'M LASER FOCUSED ON. I BELIEVE THE CRITICAL IMPORTANCE OF THIS TO THE CITY IS SELF EXPLANATORY.

WHERE IT'S NOW AS MR. TESH HAS INDICATED, WE HAVE ABSORBED ONE AND A QUARTER MILLIO SQUARE FEET OF SPACE, FROM COMPANIES THAT ARE NOTE PART OF THE CITY, WE HAVE MORE ON KINGS HIGHWAY, FOR OCCUPIED BUSINESSES LIKE THERMAL CANYON, GOING UP THERE WITH THEIR NEWS CORPORATE TAFLT, 4 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF SPACE, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF JOBS, SO IT IS AN ECONOMIC DRIVER THAT THIS CITY HAS NEVER SEEN BEFORE SO THE POTENTIAL FOR THIS FROM THE POAIVET R PERSPECTIVE IS MASSIVE.

IT IS A GAME CHANGER FOR THE CITY.

TAX BASE INCREASE TO THE CITY OF PROPERTIES THAT DON'T REQUIRE CITY SERVICES. WHICH I THINK IS KIND OF THE KEY HERE VERSUS RESIDENTIAL WHICH IS PRETTY LABOR INTENSIVE FROM CITY SERVICES IS CONCERNED.

SO I'M GLAD THAT THE E EDC IS N BOARD WITH THIS.

THEY HAVE A GREAT TEAM. WON'T FERG, SPIN SOME METERS,

RIGHT, MAKE THE METERS SPIN. >> ANNEXATION AGREEMENTS ARE VERY IMPORTANT. ANNEXATION.

>> THAT IS MY GOAL FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS SITTING UP HERE.

I WANT IT ALL. >> I KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE

YOUR FAVORITE WORD. >> I WANT IT ALL.

THE POSSIBILITIES HERE ARE EXTREME.

THIS IS FOR THE LINCOLN PARK AREA FOR EXAMPLE, TO BE ABLE TO GENERATE GOOD PAYING JOBS, FOR OUR CITIZENS, THERE'S BEEN A REQUEST TO, CAN WE ASSIST WITH TRANSPORT IN GETTING PEOPLE TO THE PARK ET CETERA, I SAID YOU TOLL ME WHAT YOU WANT, WE'LL BRING IT TO THE COMMISSION, WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A COLLABORATIVE AGREEMENT BETWEEN DEVELOPMENT, INDUSTRY AND THE CITY.

THE CITY WILL BE INTEGRAL IN FOSTERS THOSE AGREEMENT.

PETE, THE KINGS ASSOCIATION. >> THE FIRST THING I LOOK AT IS WHAT ARE THE DELIVERABLES, I LIKE WHAT I SEE ON THE AGENDA ITEM AND THE AGREEMENT, IT'S VERY SPECIFIC.

YOU KNOW IT'S VERY SPECIFIC TO EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMISSIONER. YOU KNOW, GETTING THAT CORRIDOR ACTIVE AND THEN TYING IT IN WITH CITY SERVICES, YOU KNOW, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ANNEX TO THOSE AREAS.

AND YOU THE THINK STRATEGICALLY ABOUT OUR CITY, MANY, MANY

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BUT IT'S JUST PART OF OUR PUZZLE AND IT IS A PART OF OUR PLAN AND THIS IS OUR NEXT SECTION.

IT TRULY IS THE NEXT SECTION OF INDUSTRY AND APPLICATION FOR THE CITY. AND FOR JOBS WITHIN.

AND IT'S -- THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR -- AND MAYOR FOR FOCUSING IN ON THIS AND THANK YOU PETE FOR WHAT'S TO

BE. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A

MOTION TO -- >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE

CONSENT AGENDA ITEM B. >> SECOND.

>> THERE IS A MOTION AND SECOND.

CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, YES, COMMISSIONER GAINES, YES, COMMISSIONER C JOHNSON, YES.

COMMISSIONER J JOHNSON, YES, MAYOR HUDSON.

[d. Approval of the Memorandum of Understanding between the City of Fort Pierce and the Fort Pierce Utilities Authority relating to the Interpretation of the Charter Provisions Governing the FPUA Distribution to the City.]

>> NEXT ITEM IS APPROVAL OF THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND THE FORT PIERCE UTILITY AUTHORITY RELATING TO THE INTERPRETATION OF THE CHARTER PROVISIONS GOVERNING THE FPUA DISTRIBUTION TO THE CITY.

>> MAYOR, THE REASON I PULLED THIS, THAT'S AN UNDERSTATEMENT.

THIS IS BEEN A CHALLENGE TO GET US TO THE POINT WE'RE AT NOW.

AND I'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH CITY ATTORNEY, HIECH HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH JAVI RELATIVE TO THIS.

AND THIS IS ONE OF DEALS WHERE NOT EVERYONE WHO WALKS AWAY FROM THE TABLE IS HAPPY WITH THIS BUT THEY HAVE GOT THE DEAL. BASED ON MY BIRD DOGGING THIS FOR A YEAR AND A QUARTER, I SUPPORT THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING AND I ADVOCATE THAT WE PASS IT HERE TONIGHT.

>> YOU ASK A SIMPLE QUESTION BUT THE ANSWER WASN'T THAT

SIMPLE. >> I HAVE 500 PAGES OF PRIOR MEETINGS THAT DISCUSSED THIS IN 2019, 1212 ET CETERA, ET CETERA, AND READ THROUGH THAT.

IT WAS AN ABSOLUTELY NIGHTMARE. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

COMMISSIONER GAINES. >> MADAM MAYOR, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME, IF NOT I CAN WAIT UNTIL COMMENTS. BUT THIS IS THE POLICY

COMMITTEE. >> YES, YOUR POLICY COMMITTEE.

THAT'S RIGHT. >> AND I CAN'T TALK TO MY OTHER FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE -- IS GOING AT T TO GO TO TALLAHASSEE THIS YEAR.

THEY'RE TRYING TO -- IT IS ALL BECAUSE OF ONE CITY I WON'T CALL THE NAME THAT THIS CAME UP BUT THERE IS OPPOSITION IN THAT COMMITTEE ON BOTH SIDES. AND I TOLD THE JOKE TO THE CHAIR THAT YOU KNOW IF YOU CALL THE MAYOR OR ANY COMMISSIONER AT FORT PIERCE AND THEY ASK I'M ON YOUR COMMITTEE AND THEY SAY HE'S NOT GOING TO TALK THEY DON'T BELIEVE IT.

BUT I DID SPEAK UP BECAUSE THIS IS A HOAT BUTTON TOMMIC, THIS -- HOT BUTTON TOPIC, THIS WHOLE ISSUE.

IN THAT POLICY COMMISSION WE'RE SOMEWHAT IN THE MIDDLE FROM WHAT WE DO. BUT THIS IS WHAT I JUST WANT TO THROW OUT THERE BECAUSE I WANT TO STOP ANYTHING WITH THE APPROVAL OF THIS UNDERSTANDING. BEFORE, FROM MY READING, UNDERSTAND WITH MY READING THE INTERPRETATION, THE INTERPRETATION OF THE CHARTER WAS BOTH SIDES HAD THEIR OWN INTERPRETATIONS OF THE CHARTER. BEFORE TALLAHASSEE GETS ON, I'M JUST GOING TO THROW IT OUT AND WE CAN MOVE ON AND WE DON'T HAVE TO ASKS IT TONIGHT AND JAVI IS HERE.

WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT OUR CHARTER BASED ON HOW IT WAS WRITTEN, WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN. AND CLEAR UP SOME OF THE INTERPRETATIONS THAT WHATEVER WE THINK THE INTERPRETATIONS OR THE AGREEMENT THAT FPUA THINKS THE INTERPRETATIONS ARE, THAT WE MAKE SURE. BECAUSE WHAT YOU DON'T WANT, 20 YEARS FROM NOW, TEN YEARS FROM NOW, WE NIGHT NOT BE SITTING

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BUT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW AND JAVI IS HERE, MY COMMITTEE IS TIGHTING, MY COMMITTEE IS FIGHTING, WE'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND, WE'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT WE FIGHT AND THAT'S TO PROTECT THE CITY. AND YOU GUYS.

BECAUSE I HEARD SOME THINGS ON YOUR SEED, I WAS LIKE WOW, I'M GLAD I WON'T TO THIS POLICIES COMMITTEE BECAUSE IT IS THE -- TALLAHASSEE IS TRYING TO JUST TAKE OFFER.

AND DICTATE TO -- TAKE OVER, DICTATE WHAT WE CAN DO, DICTATE WHAT THEY CAN DO. I THINK IT'S MORE THAT WE COME TOGETHER AND GET INTERPRETATION THAT WE BOTH AGREE WITH, LIKE YOU SAID, OLD JUDGE TOLD ME ONCE YOU LEAVE A MEDIATION IF YOU ARE SKIPPING OUT THE MEDIATION HAPPY IT WASN'T A GOOD MEDIATION BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS SUPPOSED TO LEAVE THE IMMEDIACY YAITION GIVING UP SOMETHING AND NOT GETTING EVERYTHING THEY WANTED. I UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER BRODERICK SAID THAT'S GOOD BUT I WANTED TO BRING THIS ESSENTIALLY FORWARD BECAUSE I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT AND SEENGS PULL IT, THERE IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE -- IT'S GOING TO COME UP IN JANUARY. IN TALLAHASSEE.

AND I WANT US TO BE PREPARED. >> MADAM MAYOR.

>> YES, SIR. >> JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK COMMENTS. I'M HAPPY WITH WHERE WE ARE.

I'M GLAD THE MOU IS HERE. I'M GLAD COMMISSIONER THAT YOU WERE, YOU KNOW, ASKING THE QUESTIONS.

I THINK IT WAS DURING BUDGET TIME WHEN YOU ORIGINALLY STARTED ASKING. SO I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD SPOT. AND I ALWAYS GO BACK TO IN 1972 THE RESIDENTS DECIDED THEY WANTED A UTILITY AUTHORITY.

THEY WANTED IT SEPARATED FROM THE POLITICAL BODY RIGHT HERE.

SO WE'RE ALL ONE OF THOSE FOLKS, RIGHT? SO FOR ME IT DOESN'T MATTER, IT DOES MATTER WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS. HOWEVER, IT WAS VERY SPECIFIC TO THE TIME, IT WAS VERY SPECIFIC TO THE UTILITY, OBVIOUSLY. IF WE, THE FPUA, WE, RESIDENTS AND RATEPAYERS DECIDE THAT YOU SHOULD GET INTO WE'RE WORKING BUSINESS THEN WE'LL MAKE A VOTE AND YOU'LL HAVE A VOTE RIGHT HERE IN CITY HALL WITH YOUR FPUA MEMBERS, AND IF YOU DECIDE TO BE IN WOODWORKING, THAT WILL BE A BUSINESS VUF.

AS A RESIDENT I'M SITTING IN FRONT OF THE MICROPHONE FOR A FEW MORE MINUTES THAT I WOULD EXPECT TO BE A MART OF THAT WOODWORKING BUSINESS. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT IT IS.

MY POINT IS, YOU KNOW, IT IS AN INVESTMENT BY THE RESIDENTS AND THE RATEPAYERS. AND SO -- AND I KNOW WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS AND I KNOW IT WAS VERY CLEAR BUT BACK THEN WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT FIBEROPTIC NETWORKS AND CABLES.

AND I'M SO GLAD WE'RE IN THAT BUSINESS AND I WILL SAY THAT BECAUSE WE'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE UTILITY THAT WE ALREADY OWN, AKA A POWER POLE THAT IS THERE AND WE GET TO HANG WIRES FROM IT. GOOD FOR US IN THE COMMUNICATIONS INDUSTRY AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS AGREEMENT.

I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR JUST LIKE BACK IN -- WAS IT 2011, SARAH, MS. HEDGES, WAS IT 2011 OR 2012, WHEN WE HAD THE MEMO FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY AT THE TIME, TALKING ABOUT THE PGA AND PCA. SOMEWHERE AROUND THAT RIGHT?

>> 2011. >> KIND OF CLARIFIED OF THE INTERPRETATION. INTERPRETATION.

AND SO -- AND I WAS GLAD WITH THAT MEMO TOO BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO DIAL IN WITH THE RATEPAYER HAT ON.

I'M PAYING PCA AND ALL OF A SUDDEN I GOT ANOTHER 6% THAT I NEED TO WORRY ABOUT, I'M NO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'M VERY STRONG ABOUT THAT SAGS A RATEPAYER, COMING INTO CITY HALL, WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING ON? TIME OUT, I DON'T WANT TO PAY THAT EXTRA 6%.

THERE WAS AN INTERPRETATION. I'M EXCITED THAT WE'RE AT THIS POINT. I THINK IT'S AS CLEAR AS IT CAN BE WITHOUT GOING TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT.

YOU KNOW, AND TO PUT AN INITIATIVE LIKE THAT OWN THE BALLOT THAT'S WHAT AN UNDERTAKING THAT IS BECAUSE IT'S VERY CONFUSING AS WE ALL KNOW, KNIFED-WHATEVER PAGES OF HISTORY AND DOCUMENTATION, THAT WE HAVE TO SUMMARIZE, IN SOME

KIND OF A -- >> YES.

>> THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT SO I'M HEAP WITH WHERE WE ARE.

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>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON I AGREE WITH YOU WHOLE HEARTEDLY.

I NEVER SAT THROUGH ONE ON THIS SIDE, I'VE SEEN THEM BUT I'VE NEVER SAT THROUGH ONE ON THIS SIDE.

BUT I'M JUST RELATING TO MY COLLEAGUES AND THE DIRECTORS HAPPEN TO BE SITTING HERE. WHAT I'M HEARING IS, AND CHOSED DOOR POLICY SESSIONS, WHEN WE GO, SO THIS IS MY TIME TO TELL YOU. AND I PUT IT OUT THERE.

I'M HEAP WITH THE MEMORANDUM, I'M HEAP WITH IT, LET'S MOVE IT. BUT THIS IS MY TIME TO TELL

YOU, THINKING ABOUT IT. >> IF THE SENTIMENT IS CLOSE TO WHAT IT WAS LAST YEAR IN THE LEGISLATIVE SECTION I THINK THIS WAS AN EXCELLENT EXERCISE FOR US TO GO THROUGH BECAUSE NOW WE UNDERSTAND IT. AND WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE TRANSFERS INVOLVE AND WHY THE TRANSFER IS WHAT IT IS AND MY MEMORY IS, WE WERE -- WE WERE ESPECIALLY IMMUNE FROM ADVERSE LEGISLATION BECAUSE WE HAVE A SEPARATE UTILITY.

THAT WAS LAST YEAR. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO HOLD THIS YEAR BUT THAT WAS LAST YEAR.

YEP, SO -- AT ANY RATE. >> COMMISSIONER WHENEVER YOU NEED KNEES TO COME SPEAK AT THAT, AS A RESIDENT I'M PAYING MY OWN UTILITY BILL, 6% GOES RIGHT BACK TO THE CITY SO I'M INVESTING. CASE IN POINT.

>> SO TO MOVE ON AND WHAT I'M HEARING UP THERE IS, THEY WERE UPSET ABOUT THAT MADAM MAYOR, THEY WERE UPSET BY THE CITY BEING IMMUNE. AND THE LEGISLATORS IN TALLAHASSEE TOOK THAT BACK TO TRY TO BRING SOMETHING BACK.

I'M JUST -- >> AND IT MIGHT BE ONE UP IN

DUO.IN GO. >> YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

SO I'M JUST TELLING US TO BE PREPARED BECAUSE IT'S COMING BACK TO TALLAHASSEE. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BILL IS GOING TO BE OR WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH SO I JUST

WANTED US TO BE PREPARED. >> ABSOLUTELY.

GOING THROUGH THIS EXERCISE IS ONE WAY OF PREPARING.

SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?

>> MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT ITEM D.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND.

CCALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, YES, COMMISSIONER GAINES, YES. COMMISSIONER J JOHNSON, YES, COMMISSIONER C JOHNSON, YES, MAYOR HUDSON

YES. >> IT WAS A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF TIME, SARAH THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU PUT INTO THAT, JAVI AND YOUR TEAM, WE KNOW IT WAS A HERCULEAN TASK.

[a. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 24-040 - Review and approval for a Voluntary Annexation by applicant and owner Guillermo Claure, to extend the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include two (2) parcels at or near the intersection of S. Ocean Drive and Blue Heron Blvd., establishing The request is to annex Parcel IDs: 2413-501-0176-000-6 and 2413-501-0288-000-3, located at or near the intersection of S. Ocean Drive and Blue Heron Blvd. - FIRST READING]

THANK YOU. >> EVERYBODY LEARNED SOMETHING I THINK. WE'LL MOVE ON.

>> ORDINANCE 24-044. AN ORDINANCE EXTENDING THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FLORIDA, ON BLUE HERON BOULEVARD, TO ASSESS SAID PROPERTY AND PLACE IT ON THE TAX ROLLS AS OF JANUARY 1ST, 2025.

HEARING DESCRIBED PROPERTY, ESTABLISHING ZONINGIZATION, DIRECTING TILING OF THE ORDINANCE WITH THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER OF ST.

LUCIE COUNTY, PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THIS IS THE FIRST READING. >> THIS IS THE FIRST READING.

MR. FREEMAN. >> THANK YOU MAYOR, THANK YOU CITY COMMISSION. THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR ANNEXATION. THE APPLICANT PARCEL I.D. IS 76-0006 AND 2413501-0288-000-3. THIS IS A VOLUNTARY APPLICATION FOR TWO PARCELS AT CLOSE TO THE INTELLECTS OF SOIRT OCEAN DRIVE AT BLUE HERON BOULEVARD. THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES HAVE A ST. LUCIE COUNTY FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF, 22 ACRES PER, AND HUTCHINGSON ISLAND, RESIDENTIAL LOW DENSITY, RUN TO 6.5 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE AND A ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF SINGLE FAMILY LOW DENSITY. THERE IS FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING SPECIFICATION THAT ARE CLOSEST IN RELATION TO THE CITY

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SO HERE WE SEE THE LOCATION OF THE TWO LOTS IN QUESTION.

IN THE SHADED AREA IN GREEN IS THE CITY LIMITS.

THE REMAINDER ARE PARCELS WITHIN THE COUNTY.

BLUE HERON BOULEVARD, SOUTH OCEAN DRIVE AND I THINK THAT'S OCEAN VILLAGE. AGAIN, AN AREA WHICH SHOWS HOW THE AREA IS BUILT OUT AT THE MOMENT.

THE O OTHER PARCELS WHICH TO TE NORTH AND SOUTH REMAIN UNBUILT AND ALSO TO THE EAST, THE PARCELS THAT ARE -- LET ME JUST GO HERE -- PARCELS WHICH ARE OPEN SPACE, CONSERVATION AREAS, THAT WILL REMAIN THAT WAY. SO LOOKEDDITY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICY 11-5 AND THEN I JUST DESCRIBED THE PARCELS ARE BEING TAXED IN OR BEING RECOMMENDED TO BE ANNEXED IN WITH THE SIMILAR LAND USE AS POSSIBLE.

THE CURRENT VALUE IS THEN,400 PER PARCEL, AGAIN IF THOSE COME INTO THE CITY THERE WOULD BE -- 37,400 PER PARCEL, THAT WOULD BE AN INCREASE TO THE CITY'S TAX BASE.

SO THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL SUBURBAN, ST.

LUCIE COUNTY, PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL LOW DENSITY FOR THE CITY. CURRENTLY ZONED HRID WHICH IS ISLAND RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY AND PROPOSED ZONING OF ONE SINGLE FAMILY LOW DENSITY CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

NOW, WHAT WE DO HAVE EAR IS THESE ANNEXED, PROPOSED ANNEXATION PROPERTIES LIE OUTSIDE THE EXISTING FORT PIERCE AUTHORITY WHREATION WATER SERVICE AREA.

WE -- WASTE WATER SERVICE AREA. WE HAVE COMMUNICATED WITH THE FPUA AND WE HAVE JUST BEEN TOLD TODAY THAT THEY ARE IN NEGOTIATION TO EXTEND THAT SERVICE AREA.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE APPLICANT NEEDS TO BE AWARE OF IS, CITY DOES HAVE CODE IN TERMS OF CONNECTING A BUILDING OR A RESIDENTIAL UNIT TO WASTE WATER FACILITIES.

AND WE HAVE TWO SECTIONS, SECTION 36.81 AND 36.87.

WHICH DICTATE THAT IF AN APPLICATION COMES IN AND IS IN THE CITY, AND THERE'S UTILITIES WITHIN 100 FEET OF THAT PROPERTY, THEN IT IS THE APPLICANT'S OBLIGATION AND REQUIREMENT TO CONNECT TO THOSE UTILITIES.

SO I WOULD SUSPECT IF THOSE UTILITIES ARE BROUGHT FURTHER SOUTH, THEN THE APPLICANT WOULD TOSUBJECT TO CONNECTING TOES THOSE ONCE A FORMAL APPLICATION CAME IN IF THAT WAS TO BE THE CASE IN THE FUTURE. THIS WAS PROVIDE PROVIDED TO THE PLANNING BOARD ON SEPTEMBER THE 9TH AND THEY VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVE THE ANNEXATION AND THEREFORE WE ARE COMING TO CITY COMMISSION TONIGHT WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. ALTERNATIVE IS APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS OR A DISAPPROVAL. THANK YOU MA'AM.

>> QUESTIONS OF STAFF. >> MADAM MAYOR, I THINK THERE'S DIAGNOSE TO BE A LOT OF ATTRACTION TO THESE PARCELS OVER THE COMING YEARS, I IMAGINE.

YOU KNOW, IT TRONTS THE DOT ROAD, IT IS ALSO EXTENDING THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS IF WE APPROVE IT OF THE CITY.

SO OBVIOUSLY A WIN-WIN OF MANY SORTS.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SEWER SERVICE. AND JUST FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL POAIVET DO NOT HAVE SEPTIC TANKS, THAT WOULD NOTE BE THE IDEAL ELECTION, I DON'T THINK THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WOULD PASS IT ANYWAY OR ALLOW IT BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE THE JURISDICTION. SO DO WE KNOW IF THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS ACROSS THE STREET TO THE SOUTH IF THEY HAVE SEWER SERVICE, ARE WE AWARE OF THAT? I KNOW FPUA HAS THEIR BOUNDARY

LINE BUT I'M NOT SURE -- >> IT TAKES SOME JOGS HERE, I WASN'T ACTUALLY ABLE TO GET A READ ON EXACTLY WHERE THAT IS.

DEFINITELY THESE ARE NOT WITHIN THE AREA AT THE MOMENT I BELIEVE. THERE MAY BE PARCELS TO THE SOUTH THERE THAT ARE. BUT I WASN'T ABLE TO GET A READ

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ON THAT. >> IT HAS SOME TPUA SERVICES.

>> WATER, SEWER I THINK. >> YES, IT'S SEWER.

>> SO WHAT DID YOU SAY COMMISSIONER?

>> WHO HAS SEWER THEN? >> SO OCEAN VILLAGE, BLUE HERON BOULEVARD IS DEFINITELY FPUA TERRITORY.

THEY JUST WALKED OUT OF THE BUILDING OR WE COULD ASK THEM.

>> I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, IS FPUA.

>> IT IS AND I THINK THERE'S SOME NEGOTIATION.

HERE IS WHY I SAY THIS TO YOU ALL.

THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT ALSO HAS MANDATES WITHIN STATE STATUTES.

THEY DON'T LIKE TO APPLY IT TO RESIDENTIAL, THEY APPLY IT STRICTLY TO COMMERCIAL. BUT WHEN YOU ARE WITHIN QUARTER MILE OF SANITARY SEWER YOU HAVE TO CONNECT.

I BELIEVE THAT -- I DON'T KNOW I WON'T SPEAK FOR THEM, YOU CAN ASK THE QUESTION IF THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE RESIDENCES TO CONNECT IN ADDITION TO.

SO THAT'S WHY THE NEGOTIATION IS HAPPENING WITH THE COUNTY.

BECAUSE THE COUNTY SEVERANCE SOUTH HUC HUTCHISON ISLAND.

THERE IS SOME OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR NEGOTIATION OWES TO WORK IDENTITY. THE MOST INTRIGUING THING FOR ME, MY GRANDFATHER USED TO OWN PARCELS WHERE THE WORD COUNTY IS ON THE MAP. I HAVE PICTURES OF WHEN THAT WAS A GREEN GRASS FIELD. AND SO THOSE ARE PLATTED PARCELS AND THAT'S A PLATTED DEVELOPMENT AND THERE IS A NAME TO THAT PLATTED DEVELOPMENT. AND SO JACK PROBABLY HAS SOME NICE PICTURES OR HISTORICAL MAPS OF THAT TOO.

SO IT'S VERY INTERESTING AND I'M INTRIGUES BY THIS.

BECAUSE WHEN THE MOSQUITO DISTRICT WAS CREATED CERTAIN THINGS CHANGED. I'M NOT SURE HOW ALL THAT WORKS IN THE LEGAL WORLD. I HAVE NO IDEA.

I'M NOT GOING TO PRETEND THAT I KNOW.

BUT IT'S VERY INTRIGUING TO ME. I KNOW EVERYTHING WEST OF THERE WOULD BE FRONTING LAGOON. IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE MOSQUITO EMPOUNDMENT BUT I'VE ALWAYS BEEN INTRIGUED BY THOSE SPARMS.

>> IT'S WITH SAVANNAH IN SOME PLACES RIGHT?

>> IT IS. I CAN SEIZE THE CITY GROWING ALONG THE FRONTAGE. THAT'S THE POINT OF THE CONVERSATION BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

>> IS THIS INCLUDED IN THE SOUTH BEACH OVERLAY?

WOULD IT BE BECAUSE -- >> IT WOULD BE ANNEXED TO REQUIRE TO EXTEND THAT. AND I THINK IF ULTIMATELY IF THE SERVICE AREA CAME FURTHER SOUTH THEN THAT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND THAT SOUTH BEACH OVERLAY TO THAT

POINT. >> RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING?

>> I DO MADAM MAYOR. I'M GLAD JEREMIAH ASKED THE QUESTION AND NOT ME ABOUT THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS OR THE RIGHT TO MAKE A PRIVATE. WHEN I READ THIS I WAS LIKE OKAY HOW CAN WE MAKE A PRIVATE OWNER ATTACH TO OUR STUFF? NO, TO THIS SERVICE. SO MY CONCERN IS, AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE APPROVE THIS, AND DOWN THE ROAD THEY SAY NO, GO THRIE A KITE?

>> IF WHO SAYS NO? >> THE PRIVATE OWNER SAYS WE DON'T WANT TO ATTACH TO THE SEWER OR WE DON'T WANT TO ATTACH TO, CAN THEY DO THAT? I DON'T KNOW, CAN THEY DO THAT?

>> IF THE SERVICE AREA EXTENDS TO BE ABLE TO SUPPLY THEM, THE DEVELOPMENT AS ALREADY MENTIONED, MAY HAVE THEIR WAY OF MANDATING IF THEY'RE A QUARTER OF A MILE AWAY.

THE CITY, THERE'S TWO PIECES OF THE CITY CODE.

THE FIRST PIECE IS, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S DIRECTLY OUTSIDE OF THEIR RIGHT-OF-WAY, ADJACENT TO YOUR PROPERTY THEN YOU HAVE TO CONNECT. THE ALTERNATIVE IF IT'S NOT THERE, AND IT'S NOT WITHIN OR IF IT'S WITHIN 100 FEET YOU HAVE A YEAR TO CONNECT THAT. BUT YOU HAVE TO LOOK PROVISION DURING THE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION AND DESIGN, THAT IT CAN ACCOMMODATE A CONNECTION TO THE SEWER SYSTEM.

>> RIGHT, AND MR. FREEMAN I BELIEVE ALL THAT BUT ME, WHAT IF IT'S 105? I'M NOT TRYING TO BE FUNNY, I'M NOT TRYING BUT WHAT IF IT'S 105 AND THEN WE'RE DEALING WITH,

WHAT CONTROL AT THAT POINT -- >> THE APPLICANT WOULD NEED TO GO TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO REQUEST A SEPTIC FIELD.

WHETHER THAT KNOWN, I WOULD PRESUME FROM WHAT THEY HAVE THIS THEIR AUTHORITY, TO SAY OKAY, YOU'RE A QUARTER MILE LESS DISTANCE TO THE EXISTING SEWER LEAN.

IT'S ON YOUR DIME TO EXTEND THAT SEWER LINE.

>> RIGHT. AND I UNDERSTAND IT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWER. I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEPTIC TANK -- I JUST DON'T WANT A SEPTIC TANK AND WE ALREADY GOT

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AND THE RIVER IS THAT WAY, SO OKAY, THAT'S MY HOLDUP HERE IS BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY CONCRETE THAT WE CAN MAKE THEM ON, I READ THE CODES AND I UNDERSTAND BUT THAT'S SOMEONE THAT CAN ALWAYS LOOK FOR SOMETHING, IT WOULD BE I SAID IT WOULD BE OUR LUCK IT IS 101, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THAT'S HOW I WORK. BECAUSE YOU KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE ANYBODY COMES TO DO THEIR BUILDING THEY'RE GOING TO BE OUT MEASURING WITH THERE -- TO MAKE SURE IT'S OVER 100 OR --

SO -- >> I SAID RIGHT THOUSANDS.

>> I'M SURPRISED YOU DIDN'T JEREMIAH.

>> MAYOR ONE QUICK COMMENT. SO OTHER GOOD THING COMMISSIONERS, I KNOW THIS IS ANNEXATION, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FUTURE WHAT IF. THE GOOD THING IS IF THEY WANT TO DEVELOP THE PARCEL, WHETHER IT'S A NICE SINGLE FAMILY HEEM OR SOME SORT OR WHATEVER, THAT MOST LIKELY AS AN OWNER ALL OF US HERE WE WOULDN'T WANT A SEPTIC TANK DRAIN FIELD SITUATION BECAUSE OF THE WATER TABLE.

SO EVEN GOING THROUGH THE TESTING PROCESS IT'S GOING TO FAIL UNLESS YOU BUILD IT UP AND DO CERTAIN TREATMENT PROCESSES.

THE AC SEPTIC CODE ALSO JUST CHANGED IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO

CONNECT. >> SOMETHING TO DO WITH OUR RESILIENCE. THE WELL MOVE FOR RESILIENCE

TOO. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMISSIONER AND LIKE I SAY, YOU KNOW, THE ENGINEERING PART I'M LOOKING AT IT AS, YOU KNOW,, YOU KNOW,, YOU KNOW --

>> WHERE IT'S ON PAPER -- >> WHERE IT'S ON PAPER, I TRY TO CHANGE MADAM MAYOR IT WORRIES ON PAPER BUT IT MAKES SENSE WHAT YOU JUST SAID AND IF I WAS BUILDING THE HOME I WOULDN'T WANT IT EITHER. IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE.

I HAD TO ASK THE QUESTION, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE.

>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WANTING TO ADDRESS THIS, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NO MOVEMENT, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEAR. WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE?

>> I'LL MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> CALL THE ROWEL. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, YES,

[b. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 24-043 - Amending the Code of Ordinances of the City of Fort Pierce Chapter 125, Zoning, Article VII, Supplementary Regulations, Division 1 - Generally, Section 125-314 Design Review, to provide for General Design Review updates and allow for architectural Design Standards, which shall be adopted by Resolution; providing for a severability clause, repealing all Ordinances or parts thereof in conflict, and providing an effective date. - FIRST READING.]

>> AND THE NEXT ITEM, ALLOW FOR CEACIALG DESIGN STANDARDS WHICH SHALL BE ADOPTED BY RESOLUTION, PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THIS IS THE FIRST READING. >> MR. FREEMAN.

>> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR, CITY COMMISSION.

THIS ITEM HAS BEEN PRESENTED IN TANDEM WITH A RESOLUTION WHICH FOLLOWS THIS. AND THIS IS I THINK AN UNUSUAL WAY OF DOING THINGS IN THE CITY.

I DON'T THINK WE'VE DONE THIS, THIS WAY BEFORE, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE CODE OFF ORDINANCES WHICH LEADS TO THE ALLOWANCE OF THE ADOPTION OF ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS BY RESOLUTION. AND THOSE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS WILL BE A STAND ALONE BOOKLET, WHICH I'VE BEEN IN ESSENTIAL REMOVED FROM THE CITY CODE -- IN ESSENCE REMOVED FROM CITY CODE AND GUIDELINES WHICH TURNED INTO DESIGN STANDARDS WHICH GIVES THE STAFF THE PLANNING BOARD THE HISTORICAL DISTRICTS, HPH HISTORIC VACATION BOARD AND THE CITY COMMISSION GREATER OVERSITE IF YOU LIKE WITH "THEY LOOK UNDER THE DESIGN REVIEW. AND WE'VE BEEN TO THE PLANNING BOARD, STAFF HAVE BEEN TO THE PLANNING BOARD ON A THUMB OF OCCASIONS AND WE'VE HAD TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE APPLICANT, ACTUALLY, LIVE IF YOU LIKE AND THAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN CITY COMMISSION ON ONE OR TWO OCCASIONS, ABOUT THE DESIGN OF PROPERTIES WITHOUT HAVING STANDARDS TO SAY WELL THIS IS REALLY WHERE THE STARTING POINT SHOULD BE. SO STAFF HAVE WORKED ON THIS OVER THE LAST YEAR. IT IS CONNECTED TO A NUMBER OF ITEMS WITHIN THE CITY STRATEGIC PLAN.

IT MAY NOT BE CALLED THIS IN THE CITY'S STRATEGIC PLAN, BUT IT AFFECTS THE DESIGN OF THE INNOVATIVE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PART OF THE CODE. IT AFFECTS THE HISTORIC DISTRICTS. IT AFFECTS THE CRA AND IT AFFECTS HIGHWAY NEIGHBORHOODS RETAIN THEIR -- HOW

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IT'S A CRITICAL PUBLIC CONCERN. AND ONE OF MY FIRST IMPRESSIONS OF FORT PIERCE, COMING INTO FORT PIERCE, COMING UP U.S. 1, IS THE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES, IS THE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE ENTRANCE WAYS, A TEELG OF FORT PIERCE THAT IS DIFFERENT -- FEELING OF FORT PIERCE THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM OTHER PLACE OWES ON U.S. 1. ENTERING FORT PIERCE NOW THIS IS OUR CITY AND THIS IS DESIGNED AND ARCHITECTURE, THERE ACTUALLY IS CONSOLIDATING THE FEELING OF OUR CITY, OR MOVING OUR CITY INTO THE FUTURE WITH ALTERNATIVE DESIGNS.

SO THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO REPLACE THE DESIGN GUIDANCE WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS IS A TEMPLATE.

IT IS A FLEXIBLE TEMPLATE. IT GIVES A GOOD STARTING POINT FOR STAFF, FOR THE DESIGNERS OF PROJECTS, FOR THE ARCHITECTS WHO LOOK FOR GUIDANCE FROM THE CITY AND STAFF AND PLANNING BOARD AND THE CITY COMMISSION AND ALL THE OTHER BOARDS THAT HAVE A INFLUENCE ON WHAT GETS APPROVED OR WHAT GETS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL, IS TO GET THAT CONSISTENCY ACROSS THE BOARDS. AND STAFF.

AND SO WHEN PEOPLE COME INTO DESIGN OR PROPOSE A DESIGN, WE HAVE A STARTING POINT. AND EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME STARTING POINT. AND THAT'S WHERE WE STRUGGLE AT THE MOMENT. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN EXPECTATION WITH PEOPLE WHO READ THE CODE, READ THE GUIDELINES, AND STAFF WHO ARE TRYING TO CREATE THIS VISION OF MOVING THE CITY IN A SPECIFIC WAY.

SO AS PART OF, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT A HUGE, I THINK YOU GOT A HUGE AGENDA PACKET WITH ALL THIS STUFF IN THERE.

SO THIS PART SETS UP A DISCUSSION FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS. I CAN GO THROUGH THAT NOW AHEAD OF THIS APPROVAL, OR WE CAN GO TO APPROVAL NOW AND KNOWN GO INTO THE RESOLUTION. I DON'T KNOW THE BEST WAY THAT

YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. >> MADAM MAYOR, I THINK WHAT QUEER GOING TO DO IS WE NEED THE TWO READINGS OF THE ORDINANCE. YOU CAN REVIEW THE RESOLUTION AND ITS DESIGN STANDARDS BUT WE WON'T PHYSICALLY ADOPT THIS UNTIL AFTER THE SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE.

>> OKAY, THAT'S GOOD. OKAY.

>> WE HAD TO MAKE IT SO YOU THOOU WHAT YOU WORE TALKING

ABOUT. >> UH-HUH.

>> IF I'LL MOVE ON 90 BEFORE WE ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE OR DENY THIS, I'LL GO INTO WHAT THIS IS OR IS NOT ABOUT.

>> RIGHT? YES.

>> WE WON'T BE TAKING ACTION ON THE RESOLUTION.

>> WE WILL BE TAKING THE ORDINANCE.

THIS OWN THE ORDINANCE. YOU WANT TO GO OVER THE CORN TENTS OF THE RESOLUTION RIGHT NOW.

>> IT'S JUST REISSUE OUR COMMISSION THAT THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO BE COMING UP ABOUT THIS MOVES FOR APPROVAL DURING THE FIRST READING KNOWN THE RESOLUTION WILL BECOME, AND THEN THAT IS THE ELEMENT. SO IT'S UNUSUAL IN THAT THE CODE IS, IN THIS RECOMMENDATION, IS BEING STRIPPED OF THE ARCHITECTURAL GUIDELINES WITH A VIEW THAT THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS WILL BE ADOPTED BY RESOLUTION AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. SO THERE WILL BE A MOMENT OR ACTUALLY NOT WOULD BE A MOMENT, THERE WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THESE AND THEN AT SECOND HEARING THERE WILL BE,

YOU KNOW, THE ADOPTION OF. >> SO TONIGHT YOU'RE JUST PROVIDING THIS FOR FUTURE INFORMATION FOR THE NEXT MEETING. IS THAT RIGHT?

IS THAT WHAT WE ARE DOING? >> THIS WOULD NEED APPROVAL.

SO THE ORDINANCE WOULD NEED APPROVAL AND THEN THE RESOLUTION WILL BE DISCUSSED AND THEN APPROVED AT THE SECOND

HEARING. >> CORRECT.

>> I'M NOT LEADING YOU DOWN A PATH THAT YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF.

>> AND THAT'S IMPORTANT, RIGHT. OKAY.

>> SO LE LET ME JUST GO THROUGH WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING NOW.

>> TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

>> SO THIS ESSENTIALLY, TAKING THE ORDINANCE ASIDE FOR A MOMENT, SO THE ORDINANCE ACTUALLY FACILITATES THE ADOPTION OF THIS BY RESOLUTION. BECAUSE IT POINTS TO THE

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-- SIT OUTSIDE OF THE CODE. SO WE'VE LOOKED AT WHAT IS PREVALENT IN THE CITY. AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF STYLES WHICH ARE ENDEMIC I THINK IN THE TREASURE COAST.

BUT MORE VARIED AS YOU COME INTO FORT PIERCE, YOU LOOK AT CERTAIN COMMUNITIES AND YOU CAN SEE VARIOUS STYLES INTERMINGLED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. YOU JUST HAVE TO IF YOU DRIVE DOWN ORANGE AVENUE YOU SEE A MULTITUDE OF DIFFERENT STYLES, OF BUILDINGS WHICH IS TRAFFIC THAT YOU COULD ACTUALLY HAVE IN THE CITY IS A DIFFERENCE OF STYLES WHICH CREATES THIS COMMUNITY FEELING. SO WHEN WE'VE LOOKED AT THOSE WE'VE LOOKED AT WHAT THE TYPICAL DESCRIPTIONS OF THE STYLES AND ARCHITECTURAL TERMINOLOGY.

AND KNOWN BROADENED THOSE OUT A BIT.

SO WE'RE NOT TORSING PEOPLE TO DO THESE STYLES BUT WE'RE SAYING THESE STYLES ARE THE PREVALENT STYLES WITHIN THE CITY THAT WE DO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY.

SPECIFICALLY WITH RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND WE'LL WELCOME ALTERNATIVE STYLES TO THESE IF THEY MEET SOME OF THESE REGULATIONS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF THE DEFINITIONS AND THE REQUIREMENTS IN THIS CODE ARE A NUMBER OF ELEMENTS.

THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING, HIGHWAY IT LOOKS AN THE STREET, THE MATERIALS ON THE DESIGN, HOW IS THAT FITTING IN WITH THE CITY'S ARCHITECTURE. IMPORTANTLY, WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW DOES IT INTERACT WITH PEDESTRIAN, ON THE STREET, AND NOW DOES YOU KNOW THE BUILDINGS FEEL IN TERMS OF THE SCALE.

HOW DO THEY GET BROKEN UP WITH BALCONIES AND CAP BYES ET CETERA. THE TOWER ELEMENTS -- CANOPIES ET CETERA. THE TOWER ELEMENTS, HOW DO THEY LOOK, HOW THE LIGHTING INTERACTS WITH THE BUILDINGS, THE ROOFS TOPS HOW CAN THOUGH BE USED IF YOU HAVE A DECK UP THERE HIGHWAY CAN THAT BE USED. THE SIGNS, HOW THEY -- HOW CAN THEY BE USED. THE SIGNS HOW THEY CAN BE PART OF THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN OR THE GARAGE, THE IT'S A PARKING GARAGE OR OWN THE SURFACE, WHERE IS IT LOCATED, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS THAT AFTER A CERTAIN HEIGHT, THAT BUILDINGS HAVE A STOP BACK.

SO -- STEP BACK SO THEY ARE NOT A CONTINUOUS BLOCK THAT RISE UP FOR X AMOUNT OF FEET. AND WE SPECIFY THE AMOUNT OF STEP BACK AND WHERE THAT OCCURS.

SO ANYTHING I THINK THEY'RE STAYING ANYTHING ABOVE FOUR FLOORS. IF IT'S ANY HIGHER THAN THAT THEY SHOULD BE STEPPING BACK SO THE MASSING OF THE BUILDING MOVES AWAY FROM THE STREET. I THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT BUILT IN.

TO PREVENT THE CANYON EFFECT WHEN YOU ARE ON THE STREET AND SEEING VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION GOING UP FOR 200 FEET OR SO.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY.

AND I THINK IT MAKES ARCHITECTS AND DESIGNERS THINK ABOUT MORE HOW THEIR BUILDINGS LOOK. THAT'S MADE SOMEWHAT MORE DETAILED IN THE REGULATIONS THEMSELVES.

WE VAITED THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS INTO TWO PIECE, ONE DEALING WITH SINGLE FAMILY, DUPLEX AND TOWN HOME DESIGN WHICH IS MORE FLEXIBLE IN TERMS OF ALLOWING THE INFILL OF LOTS WITHIN THE CITY, ALLOWING THE DESIGN OF CERTAIN ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS, WITHIN AREAS WHERE WE ARE STRUGGLING TO GET RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND THIS IS A WAY THAT WE ARE TRYING TO CONSOLIDATE THE FEELING OF THE COMMUNITY BUT ALLOW INFILL DEVELOPMENTS, INFILL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS TO COME INTO THESE LOTS AND WE WANT INTO THIS NOT ONLY TO BE USED AS STANDARD CODE BUT WHEN PEOPLE, WHEN THE PROPOSALS COME IN, UNDER THE INNOVATIVE COMMUNITY DESIGN, IS TO GIVE THEM GUIDANCE ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF BUILDINGS WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT FOR THE INNOVATIVE COMMUNITY DESIGN. AND THIS IS NOTE A FREE FOR ALL TO COME IN WITH, YOU KNOW, BLOCKS OF CONCRETE AND SAY WELL THIS IS INNOVATIVE. THIS IS NOTE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER SECTION,

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AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO PROMOTE AND WANT TO HAVE DEVELOPERS CONSIDER IS ACTIVE USES ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

NOT HAVE BLANK WALLS OR JUST PARKING LOTS ON THE -- ON THAT STREET TO CREATE AT LEAST A LINER OF USES WHICH FACE THE STREET, OFTEN OPPORTUNITIES FOR SMALL RETAIL OR SMALL OFFICE, WE TALK ABOUT SMALL SERVICE USES TO GO AND INTERACT WITH THE STREET. THIS IS PART OF THE PEDESTRIAN ENVIRONMENT AND OUR BUILDINGS CONNECT TO THE STREET AND CREATE THAT FEELING OF VITALITY WHEN YOU GO TO A PLACE THAT YOU'VE VISITED IN THE PAST MAYBE AND YOU WALK DOWN THE STREET AND YOU'VE INTERACTED WITH VARIOUS USES ON THAT STREET AND IT'S NOTE JUST A BLANK WALL OR A PARKING LOT.

SO YOU CAN'T HAVE A PARKING LOT BEHIND THAT OR A PARKING GARAGE THAT GOES ABOVE THAT, IT IS A WAY OF ENSURING THAT THE STREETS ARE NOT STERILIZED BY DEVELOPMENT THAT DOESN'T OFFER ANYTHING TO THE COMMUNITY OR THE VISITORS OF A PARTICULAR STREET. VERY IMPORTANT FOR DOWNTOWNS, ESSENTIALLY IF WE WANT TO PRESERVE OUR DOWNTOWN, AS AN ACTIVE WALKABLE AREA, THEN WE NEED ACTIVE USES ALL ALONG THESE STREET FRONTAGES. NOW WE'RE GOING TO WHAT DO THESE STYLES MEAN. EVERY STANDARDS THAT WE ARE CONVERTING ARE COMBING OUT OF THE EXISTING GUIDELINES THAT ARE THIS THE CODE. SO WE'VE CONVERTED THE GUIDELINES, LOOKED AT THE STYLES, THAT THEY REFER TO, AND CONVERTED THEM INTO REGULATIONS.

SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO A SOUTH FLORIDA STYLE THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO COMPLY WITH.

YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT ROOF STYLE, SLOPE MATERIAL, FACADE, OPENINGS, ALL THOSE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THAT SHOULD, IF THEY SAY THEY ARE COMING IN WITH THE SOUTH FLORIDA STYLE THAT'S THE THING, THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD LOOK.

AND WE'VE HAD DEVELOPMENTS COME THROUGH THAT HAVE SAID THEY ARE SOUTH FLORIDA STYLE AND THEY HAVE LOOKED NOTHING LIKE THIS.

YOU KNOW, I'VE SAT HERE IN TRUSS TRAITION WHEN THEY COME UP AND SAY HEY THIS IS A FLORIDA STYLE BUILDING AND WHAT, YOU KNOW. SO WE'RE TRYING NOW TO CONSOLIDATE AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE ARCHITECT TO DESIGN, THEIR STAFF, TO UNDERSTAND DIFFERENT STYLES IF SOMEBODY PROPOSES A CERTAIN STYLE WE KNOW WHAT IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE. IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THEY CAN'T DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN THAT.

I WOULD LIKE THEM TO ACTUALLY ADMIT THAT IT IS NOT ONE OF THESE THINGS. SO AS THIS IS DEVELOPED, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING AND YOU SEE HERE WE DON'T HAVE AN IMAGE ATTACHED TO THIS, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK, GO AROUND THE CITY, GET TRAVIS OF THINGS THAT ARE THESE STYLES -- GET TRAVIS OF THINGS THAT ARE THESE STYLES, SO PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHAT THIS MEANS IN MORE CLEAR AND PHYSICAL FORMS. WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE IMMEDIATE MEDITERRANEAN TYPE, DOWNTOWN YOU HAVE GOT THE RENAISSANCE BOULEVARD, THE LIBRARY IS I THINK IN THIS STYLE AS WELL AND THIS CORNER OF ORANGE AND U.S.

1, DEFINITELY A MEDITERRANEAN STYLE BUILDING.

CLASSICAL STYLE. YOU SEE A LOT OF THIS ON APRIL ORANGE AVENUE ACTUALLY, IN THIS MORE CLASSICAL STYLE, RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS BUILT THIS THIS STYLE, WE'LL GET TRAVIS OF THOSE. DECO OR IF YOU ARE ENGLISH, PEOPLE ARE SURPRISED THAT WE DO HAVE THOSE BUILDINGS.

IF YOU DRIVE UP U.S. 1 YOU'LL SEE THEM.

VERY MOD OTHER THAN STYLE, USUALLY USED AS WE SEE HERE FOR, YOU KNOW, GOVERNMENTAL BUILDINGS.

THERE ARE SOME HOMES THAT ACTUALLY DO USE THIS STYLE.

VERY UNUSUAL BUT WE'VE HAD PRESENTATIONS BY ARCHITECTURAL RECENTLY THAT HAVE LOOKED AT THIS STYLE IN THE HOME, IT'S

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IT'S AMENDED BY RESOLUTION. IT'S NOT PART OF THE PHYSICAL CODE, BUT IT IS REFERENCED BY -- IT IS ADOPTED BY REFERENCE INTO THE CODE. IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR, IF SOMETHING'S NOT RIGHT, STAFF CAN COME BACK AND ASK FOR THINGS TO BE ADDED OR CHANGED OR WHATEVER.

WE HAD A MANAGEMENT DISCUSSION THIS MORNING ABOUT HOW DO WE DEAL IN FUTURE WITH FLOODING ON SMALL LOTS.

AND SO THE DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, WE SPOKE ABOUT STANDARD CONSTRUCTION RATHER THAN INTORTI IMPORTING FILL.

UNDERSTANDING WHAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE GOING THROUGH, THAT CAME FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, WHAT ISSUES WILL THEY FACE IN THE FUTURE WHEN THE INFLUENCED PLANE ELEVATION GETS CHANGED AND HOW DO WE PROTECT THE CITIZENS WHEN THESE INFILL THINGS COME THROUGH IN SMALL COMMUNITIES WHEN WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE SPACE TO IMPORT SOIL OR FILL WITHOUT DISTURBING AND IMPACTING ON THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.

AND WE'RE SEEING SOME OF THAT ALREADY.

SO IN THE INTERIM BETWEEN THIS FIRST READING AND THE SECOND READING, WHEN WE WILL BRING THE RESOLUTION THROUGH OR REQUEST IT TO BE APPROVED, I HOPE WE HAVE SOME TIME TO JUST READ THROUGH THESE AND MAYBE YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS FOR NOW OR IN THE FUTURE I'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER THEM.

>> QUESTIONS OF STAFF. >> JUST ONE QUICK ONE MAYOR.

THANK YOU JEFF FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LINCOLN PARK COMMUNITY, HISTORIC, I THINK ABOUT EDGARTONY, WE HAVE BEAUTIFUL TOWNS LIKE EVEN CEDAR PLACE, AVENUE D, THOSE THINGS.

HOW DO YOU NIX THOSE, FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE HOW DOES

THAT COVER THE PLAY FOR YOU? >> THERE IS DIVERSIVE OPINION.

WHEN I LOOK AT FORT PIERCE, YES, I DO SEE AREAS WHICH HAVE A TYPE OF CERTAIN ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.

WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING A CHARACTER, WHEN YOU ARE BUILDING A CITY WHERE PEOPLE EXPECT THIS YOU DRIVE DOWN THE STREET YOU GET A VARIATION OF STYLES.

SO IF WE'RE CREATING A VISION OF THE CITY WHICH IS A FLEXIBLE FORWARD-THINKING DESIGN-ORIENTED COMMUNITY BASED CITY, WE SHOULD BE PROMOTING WHAT OTHER STYLES WE THINK OF THAT CITY. I THINK IT HELPS A STREET IF WE HAVE DIFFERENTIALS IN BUILDING STYLES BECAUSE WE'RE NOT BUILDING SUBDIVISIONS HERE. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A 200-LOT SUBDIVISION ALL OF THE SAME HOUSING TYPE.

EVEN THOUGH WE SHOULD BE APPLYING SOME OF THESE STANDARDS TO THOSE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENTS AS WELL.

THE STATE STATUTE DOESN'T ALLOW US TO DO A LOT OF THESE THINGS OUTSIDE OF THE CRA BOUNDARY. AND THAT IS ANOTHER REASON WHY WE WANT TO DO THIS, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THIS, IS THE, THE STATE STATUTES ARE VERY CLEAR THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE STANDARDS WITHIN THIS SPECIAL DISTRICTS WE CAN'T APPLY DESIGN

REGULATIONS. >> THAT'S A RECENT PIECE OF

LEGISLATION. >> THAT'S PROBABLY IN THE LAST TWO OR -- THREE OR FOUR YEARS MAYBE.

>> RECENT. >> YEAH.

AND SOME OF THEM WE GET DEVELOPMENT OUTSIDE OF THE AREA, VERY DIFFICULT EVEN NOW IN THE CRA ITSELF, AT THE VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO RECOMMEND THAT THEY CHANGE THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE. AND THAT'S EVEN WITH THE STANDARD STUFF, THAT'S DIFFICULT TO DO UNLESS YOU HAVE GOT STANDARDS. UNLESS THERE ARE STANDARDS YOU ARE VERY, YOU KNOW YOU'RE VERY LIMITED.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, MY VISION, YOU KNOW, FROM A PLANNING POINT OF VIEW FOR THE CITY AREAS, COMMUNITY PARKS OR EDGAR TOWN

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THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU THINK WHY HAS SOME THINGS THOUGHT BEEN DONE THE WAY THEY SHOULD BE DONE AND PEOPLE TAKE THE WRONG WAY. AND I KNOW IT'S BECAUSE WE'VE NOT HAD THE TOOLS IN THE PAST TO BE ABLE TO HELP ANT DIRECT THAT. -- AND DIRECT THAT.

AND I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH ARCHITECTS WHO SAY WELL YOU KNOW I CAN'T ARGUE WITH MY CLIENT IF I'VE GOT NOTHING TO ARGUE WITH. AND THEY WANT TO BUILD -- PEOPLE WANT TO BUILD GOOD STUFF AND THERE ARE WAYS OF BUILDING GOOD STUFF WITHOUT CREATING A HUGE EXPENSE ON THE DESIGN OF THAT, THAT WE HAVE TO ASK SOMETHING THAT SETS THE

FOUNDATION. >> TED.

DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF STAFF? YES.

>> SO MR. FREEMAN THANK YOU STORE THIS.

SO HOW DOES IT FIT IN WITH THE PROCESS YOU ARE BRINGING FORWARD THE TINY HOMES, THESE ARE LOTS THAT ARE NONCONFORMING LOTS. I SAW SOME DESIGNS HERE THAT I DON'T KNOW WOULD QUITE FIT SOME OF THIS.

IN PARTICULAR THE LINCOLN PARK AREA.

SO WHAT'S THE DESIGN STANDARD FOR THAT?

>> WELL, THIS SETS THE TONE. SO ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE INNOVATIVE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IDEA IS THAT WHEN PEOPLE COME IN, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO VARY THINGS.

THEY ARE ALLOWED TO VARY THE STYLE AND WHERE THINGS SIT AND THE ACTUAL SIZE OF THESE UNITS. BUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN TERMS OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH BEFORE THAT WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO BE MORE INTERESTED IN SMALL HOMES OR COTTAGES OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM --

>> CONTAINER HOMES. >> CONTAINER HOMES OR WHATEVER, THE BEAR ESSENTIALS, RECTANGULAR BOXES, A COUPLE OF WINDOWS CUT IN THE SIDE, A DOOR IN THE FRONT AND YOU KNOW A DRIVEWAY. NO THOUGHT ABOUT HOW THAT WOULD AFFECT THE COMMUNITY. AND THE INNOVATIVE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ACTUALLY SAYS IN THERE, IT HAS TO RESPECT THE CHARACTER AND THE PATTERN OF THE COMMUNITY.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY GUIDELINES FOR THAT.

9SO SOME OF THESE STYLES AND IN THESE STYLES IT SAYS LOOK, THESE MIGHT NOT BE THE CORRECT THING TO PUT IN AN AREA.

BUT WE WANT TO SEE, I WANT AN EXPLANATION A NARRATIVE ABOUT WHY YOU FEEL THE PROPOSAL YOU'RE PROPOSING FIST INTO THIS COMMUNITY. WE WANT TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY

FOR PEOPLE TO DO THINGS. >> RIGHT, I WOULD AGREE.

>> AND WE WANT TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY FOR ALL THE BOARDS AND STAFF TO SAY THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT WAY OF DOING IT.

>> SO I LOOKED AT YOUR PRESENTATION, I APPRECIATE THE PICTURES, I WHOLE HEARTEDLY AGREE THAT YOU CAPTURE THAT.

MY CONCERN IS, WHAT IS THE STANDARD FOR LINCOLN PARK, RIGHT? THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD ARCHITECTURE THAT IS THERE THAT IS HISTORIC.

AND I DIDN'T SEE THAT HERE, RIGHT? AND SO I'M GOING TO TELL YOU COMMISSIONER I'M GOING TO HAVE SOME RESERVATIONS MOVING FORWARD, THAT IS WHERE INFILL IS, PROBABLY LEADING MORE ON HOUSING THAN COMMERCIAL BUT THE COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES THERE. AND I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE A VISION OF WHAT YOU CAPTURE AS YOU GO THROUGH THAT LINCOLN PARK AREA. SO PULL OUT GOOD, SOUND, ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN THAT HAS STOOD THE TEST OF TIME.

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BECAUSE IF YOU JUST PLOT THIS RIGHT INTO LINCOLN PARK IT

DOESN'T FIT. >> I AGREE.

I AGREES. >> SO BUT I DO AGREE WITH THE STANDARD, NO QUESTION THERE I THINK WE'VE HAD GOT TO WORK A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO PULL THIS TOGETHER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT, THIS IS THE FIRST READING.

I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW I'M NOT, RIGHT NOW, COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH A VOTE OF YES ON THIS BECAUSE I WANT TO

SEE MORE. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> SO THAT'S WHERE I AM WITH THIS.

I COMPLETELY KNOW WE NEED IT. I'M ALL FOR IT BUT RIGHT NOW WE GOT A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON IN LINCOLN PARK, WE HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF BRAND-NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE AND I'M INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT THE TRUE FACADE LOOKS LIKE.

I'VE SEEN ONE BEAUTIFUL HIGHWAYS COME IN BUT I'VE GOT FIVE OR SIX JUST IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ALONE AND I'M REALLY CURIOUS ABOUT IT. I THINK WE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THIS RIGHT, I THINK RIGHT NOW WE ARE TRAILING THE DOG AT THIS POINT. THINGS ARE GOING UP LITERALLY EVERY DAY. THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM,

THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. >> IT'S A NIGHTMARE.

SO I AGREE, I CAN UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT, 100%, WE HAVE A LOT OF THE SMALL LOTS THAT ARE AT THE MOMENT WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER. IF THEY COME IN AND DO IT UNDER STRAIGHT ZONING WE DON'T -- WE HAVE THE GUIDELINES BUT WE CAN'T APPLY THOSE BECAUSE THE GUIDELINES IN THE CRA.

HAVING THIS WOULD AT LEAST GIVE US SOMETHING IN THE INTERIM.

AND I WANT TO JUST IF I MAY TELL YOU OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON NEXT. WE'RE WORKIN ON A PATTERN OF ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS THAT WOULD BE -- AND THIS WOULD BE MY VISION FOR AREAS SUCH AS LINCOLN PARK OR ANY OTHER AREA AT SMALL LOTS THAT WE WOULD HAVE A SET OF PREAPPROVED ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS THAT WOULD BE APPROVED BY PLANNING, BE APPROVED BY BUILDING, BE APPROVED BY ENGINEERING, THAT SOMEBODY COULD COME IN WITH A CERTAIN LOT SIZE, PICK THAT DESIGN, PAY THE ARCHITECT OR WHATEVER FOR THAT DESIGN, AND THAT WOULD RUN THROUGH OUR PROCESS.

THEY WOULD BE PREAPPROVED. THE DESIGNS WOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH PLANNING BOARD, HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD, CITY COMMISSION, WE WOULD HAVE A CATALOG OF DESIGNS SPECIFICALLY FOR CERTAIN LOATZ SIZES THAT -- LOT SIZE S THAT E

WOULD BE HAPPY WITH. >> MADAM MAYOR.

>> YES. >> WHEN DO WE GET THIS? WHAT I'M LOOKING AT NOW, YOU ARE ASKING US TO APPROVE THIS ON FIRST READING FLIT AND WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M LOOKING AT. SO IT IS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.

>> ANY POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS WHATEVER FOUNDATION THAT GIVES US SOME CONTROL, ON TOP OF THAT FOUNDATION WE WOULD BUILD FORMAL IF WE WANTED TO MOVE THAT WAY AND THE CITY COMMISSION WAS SO INCLINED, TO DEVELOP THIS CATALOG OF DESIGNS THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE IN CERTAIN AREAS.

AND THAT -- THAT ITSELF WOULD TAKE SOME TIME.

BUT WHAT -- AND PARALLEL TO THAT WHAT I'M ALSO HOPING AND I'M VERY OPTIMISTIC IN ALL OF THIS STUFF, I'M HOPING THAT WHEN WE START TO GET THINGS COMING IN FOR LINCOLN PARK, THAT WE SEE THE GOOD DESIGNS. ALL OF THESE WILL HAVE TO COME THROUGH TO THE CITY COMMISSION IF THEY'RE USING THE INNOVATIVE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW, THAT'S NOT TO SAY IT WON'T CHANGE IN THE FUTURE BUT RIGHT NOW THESE DESIGNS BECAUSE OF THE WAY WE HAVE SET IT UP, WE WANT THE STANDARD TO BE SET BY THE CITY COMMISSION AS THESE DESIGNS COME FORWARD.

AND ONCE WE SEE A PATTERN OF THAT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO MOVE AND THROUGH AN RFQ OR WHATEVER THAT BE, ENGAGE ARCHITECTS TO CONTRIBUTE TO A CATALOG OF DESIGNS BASED ON WHERE THE COMMISSION THAT WE KNOW THE COMMISSION ARE HAPPY WITH AND THE COMMUNITY ARE HAPPY WITH THOSE.

I UNDERSTAND THE FEELING, THIS IS A CART BEFORE THE HORSE.

MY METHODOLOGIES ARE GET SOMETHING IN, IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO HELP US AT THE MOMENT, GET SOMETHING IN.

AND AT THE SAME TIME I DON'T WANT TO CAUSE HARM IN DOING THAT. I'M SEEING A POSITIVE MOVEMENT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO PROMOTE HERE.

>> AND I UNDERSTAND AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT I THINK OF FORT

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BECAUSE AT THAT POINT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CONTAINER HOMES AND I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THE PRESENTATION RIGHT AS FAR AS THAT TYPE OF DESIGN, WHAT DOES THAT FIT? DOES THAT FIT THAT MODERN THING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OR WHAT.

BUT I THOUGHT FROM AN AFFORDABILITY STANDPOINT, A DURABILITY STANDPOINT, THE SIZE OF LOTS THAT ARE THERE, THE N WITH A DESIGN STANDARD THAT I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEK.

I'M GOING TO THINK REAL HARD ON THIS AS THIS COMES UP BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT YOU'RE RIGHT, WE NEED A START BECAUSE WE HAVE GOT TWO LOTS PREVIOUSLY ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, EVENTUALLY WANT TO BUILD AND MIGHT AS WELL GIVE THEM SOME TYPE OF STANDARDS

THAT FITH THAT AREA I GE. >> ALTERNATIVE STYLES TO THOSE INDICATED WITHIN THOSE REGULATIONS ARE ALLOWED.

BUT THERE IS SOME CRITERIA THAT WE WOULD APPLY TO THOSE.

THEY WOULD NEED TO PROVIDE A DESCRIPTION OF THE PROPOSED DESIGN CONCEPT AND INCLUDING IMAGES OF THAT DESIGN AND THE JUSTIFICATION AND REASONING OF THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THE STYLE FOR FORT PIERCE. SO -- AND THERE ARE OTHER PARTS OF THIS THAT SAY WHAT THOUGH SHOULD DO IN MINIMUM TO THAT.

AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, THE INNOVATIVE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ALSO HAS ITS SAME STANDARDS WITHIN THAT, THAT PEOPLE NEED TO EXCEED LANDSCAPING, H THEY NEED TO DO THINGS THAT ENHANCE THAT. OBJECTIVE, THAT WE KNOW WHAT THESE COMMUNITIES AND STREETS LOOK LIKE AND THE TYPE OF ARCHITECTURE THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY AND THERE WILL BE

DIFFERENTIALS FROM THAT. >> SOMETHING YOU JUST SAID AND MAYBE I NEED JUST SIMPLE CLARIFICATION.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NEW BUILDS, OKAY? WHAT ABOUT WHAT I'M GOING TO CALL REBUILDS? WE HAVE PROPERTIES THAT ARE SITTING FOR A LONG TIME AND GET SOME ACTIVITY. DOES THAT APPLY TO THAT TYPE OF SITUATION, SOMEBODY BRINGING A HOUSE BACK?

>> IF THE IMPACT ON THAT BUILDING IS MORE THAN 50% OF WHAT THEY HAVE, THEN YES. THEY'RE SUBJECT TO THESE

ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS. >> OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. >> MADAM MAYOR.

>> YES, SIR. >> IN THE ORDINANCE DID WE DEFINE SPECIFICALLY THE STYLES THAT YOU SHOWED US EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION OR WAS THAT JUST AN EXAMPLE?

>> NOTICES ARE EXAMPLES. SO IN THE -- THOSE ARE EXAMPLES. SO IN THE EXISTING GUIDELINES IN THE CODE THEY DO MENTION VARIOUS STYLES.

>> RIGHT. >> AND THEN THE ACTUAL -- THE TABLES HAVE BEEN EXTRACTED THAT ARE REALLY COMING FROM THE GUIDELINES. AND SO THE DIMENSIONS OF THE PITCH OF THE ROOF AND THE MATERIALS AND SO FORTH, ARE TAKEN SO THESE TABLES ARE TAKEN FROM THE GUIDELINES.

AS I WAS GOING TO SAY, THOSE ARE GUIDELINES AND NOT -- IT WAS DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE THOSE. AND SO THEY RECOGNIZED, YOU KNOW, ROOF SLOPES, THEY RECOGNIZED MATERIALS, VARIOUS STYLES. PEOPLE COULD COME ALONG AND DO A COMBINATION OF DIFFERENT STYLES.

BUT WITH THE JUSTIFICATION OF DOING THAT.

>> RIGHT, BUT WITHIN THE ORDINANCE THOUGH, BECAUSE THIS IS -- YOU'RE GOING TO DIAL IN WITH THE STYLES AND THE DESIGN STANDARD IN THE RESOLUTION FORM RATHER THAN THE ORDINANCE FORM.

>> YES. >> THE ORDINANCE FORM IS VERY GENERIC, VERY OFFICIAL WITH GENERAL GUIDANCE AND APPLICATION WAS ACTUALLY A SECTION I WAS GOING TO REFERENCE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE IN SECTION J YOU EVEN TALK ABOUT PROVIDING EXTERIOR APPLICATIONS, WHICH COULD APPLY TO ANY NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT? AND THEN YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT THE ALTERNATIVE. SO THERE IS APPLICATION OPTIONS FOR ME TO COME IN AND SAY I WANT TO APPLY FOR AND THIS IS WHY I WANT TO SHOW YOU THIS ARCHITECTURAL STYLE.

THAT'S GOING TO BE OWN THE BOOKS.

>> AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE WIL BE LOOKING AT IS HOW DOES YOUR PROPOSAL FIT INTO THE REMAINDER OF THAT STREET.

SO WHAT WE WOULD BE SAYING TO THE ARCHITECT IS, SHOW US EXAMPLES OF WHAT ALREADY EXISTS ON THAT STREET.

IF IT'S GOOD QUALITY, IF THERE'S A CHARACTER THERE, IF

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MEET THAT. >> YES, THAT'S FAIR.

I MEAN THAT'S -- >> WHAT I DIDN'T WANT TO DO IS BE OVER PRESCRIPTIVE, TO ACTUALLY SET THE DESIGNS IN CONCRETE AND SAY, THAT'S ALL YOU CAN DO.

>> MAKES SENSE. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES.

>> THANK YOU. I WAS SITTING MERE LISTENING.

I HAD SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS AS WITH THE LINCOLN PARK AREA BECAUSE I LOOKED AT YOUR DESIGNS AND THE CATEGORIES AND I'M LIKE OKAY, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE IN THE LINCOLN PARK AREA THAT SOME OF THESE WOULD GO.

BUT I ALSO YOU KNOW I'M VERY ADAMANT ABOUT WHAT ME AND YOU ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE SMALL LOTS AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO -- HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT. SO TONIGHT, WITH THE -- WHAT I'M HEARING TONIGHT, I WOULD ASK THAT -- I WOULD ASK BECAUSE I KNOW HIGHWAY YOU LIKE TO -- I KNOW YOU ARE LIKE ME, YOU LIKE TO GET IT AND GO. I WOULD ASK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOVEMBER NOW. CAN YOU TRY TO ANSWER SOME OF THE H OF THE QUESTIONS AND GET SOME MORE DETAILS OF LIKE WHAT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SAID ABOUT THE LINCOLN PARK AREA SO I CAN FEEL A LITTLE MORE RELAXED. AND WE KIND OF POSTPONED THIS UNTIL LIKE THE DECEMBER MEETING, WITH THIS OTHER INFORMATION THAT WE COME BACK ON, WE COME BACK OWITH THE IDEA THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN.

YOU GET THE SECOND READING IN DECEMBER, YOU GET SECOND READING IN DECEMBER THAT YOU WANT BASED ON, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER PICTURES AND WHATEVER, AND OR IT GIVES YOU MORE TIME TO TALK TO YOU THE HAVEN'T, NONE OF YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THAT OLDER RESIDENTS IN LINCOLN PARK, TO SEE WHY THEY BUILT SOME OF THEIR HOUSES THE WAY THEY DID.

YOU COULD START WITH MADAM MAYOR BECAUSE SHE PROBABLY HAS THAT HISTORY OR HER SISTER HAS THAT HISTORY OF THE LINCOLN PARK AREA. I SEE ONE IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT. HE WILL PROBABLY KILL ME FOR CALLING HIS NAME BUT WE HAVE A LONG TIME RESIDENT IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT THAT, MR. MINOR OVER HERE TO PICK HIS BRAIN BECAUS HE KNOWS HOW THE LINCOLN PARK AREA WAS PLOTTED.

AND BECAUSE WE GOT TO DO THIS RIGHT.

I LOVE THIS IDEA AND I LOAF THE WHOLE CREATIVE IDEA THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT INTO FORT PIERCE. BUT I THINK WE'RE KIND OF RUSHING THIS TONIGHT AND I THINK IF WE JUST KIND OF PUSH IT BACK FOR -- THE FIRST MEETING IN DECEMBER WILL BE

COUPLE WEEKS? >> THAT'S TOO SOON.

>> WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE ADVERTISING REQUIREENTS.

BUT IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. >> THAT'S MY CONCERN GUYS.

BECAUSE WE CAN PUT IT UP FOR A VOTE.

BUT RIGHT NOW I HAVE CONCERNS AND KNOWN I KNOW WE CAN GO BACK TO THE SECOND READING IN CASE YOU'RE TRYING TO BRING ALL THAT BACK TO THE SECOND READING AND THEN WE GO FROM THERE.

I'M CATCHING MYSELF BACK TO THE SECOND READING.

BUT I DO HAVE THE CONCERNS BECAUSE I DON'T SEE I DON'T SEE THE COMMUNITIES THAT YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT AND WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE TIME ABOUT THESE LOTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIX.

AND I WOULD LOVE, EVEN FOR ME AND YOU TO MEET THIS WEEK OR WHATEVER YOU HAVE THAT WE COME TOGETHER, ME AND YOU SIT TOGETHER AND WE COME TO HOW WE WANT TO MAP THAT OUT AND PUT THIS PART OF IT LIKE IT'S PAST, LIKE I TOLD YOU IN THE HALLWAY, PEOPLE ARE READY TO DO IT, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT BUT IF WE WANT TO TAKE A VOTE ON IT, I'M NOT THERE YET.

I'M NOT SAYING I'M NOT GOING TO BE THERE BUT THAT'S WHERE I'M

AT. >> COMMISSIONER J JOHNSON.

>> I HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT IDEA, COMMISSIONER, THIS IS A RESOLUTION NOTE AN ORDINANCE. ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS WHICH SHALL BE ADOPTED BY RESOLUTION.

WE'RE NOT DOING THAT TONIGHT, WE'RE DOING THAT NEXT TIME.

YOU'LL GET ALL THAT, THIS IS THE SUBSTANCE OF THE LAW, IN THE SECOND PART OF IT YOU'LL GET THE RESOLUTION, WHICH CAN DAICT, YOU CAN PUT ALL TEN ROOFS IN THERE, I WON'T BE HERE BUT YOU CAN. THAT'S MY POINT RIGHT? SO THE LAW, THE ORDINANCE PORTION OF IT IS WHERE I'M -- YOU KNOW, WHICH WE'RE OVERLOOKING RIGHT THIS SECOND.

BECAUSE HE DELETED A LOT OF SECTIONS, A LOT OF RED --

>> HE DID, HE DID. >> AND HE CONDENSED IT DOWN SO I WAS PRETTY COM COMFY WITH THW PART OF IT.

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>> LET ME JUST, IT IS A TYPICAL MONDAY YOU KNOW END OF THE YEAR. SO RIGHT NOW, WE'RE KIND OF ALL

12B 13A RIGHT? >> WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE UP A, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT TAKING UP A?

>> 13A WILL NOT BE HEARD TONIGHT.

THIS IS JUST THE BACKUP FOR YOU AND I THINK MR. FREEMAN CAN COME BACK WITH SOME -- IN INTEREST TO YOUR QUESTION WHEN WE ARE ACTUALLY BEING ASKED TO ADOPT THESE DESIGN STANDARDS.

>> WE CAN DRILL DOWN AT THE RESOLUTION AND MAKE SUGGESTIONS AND CHANGES. THAT'S WHERE I'M GETTING MORE COMFORTABLE ABOUT. I NEED TO VOICE MY CONCERN WHAT I SAW AND WHAT I GOT. WE NEED TO PUT LAWS ON THE BOOKS AND YOU NEED THE POWER TO HELP US ENFORCE THIS AND THAT IS WHERE THE ORDINANCES COME SO I GET THIS.

>> AND I WAS JUST SAYING DEVICE, YOU KNOW IN THIS LITTLE PIECE OF PAPER GO OUT, AND IT'S PUBLISHED, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO BE CLEAR THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT BECAUSE IT'S PUBLISHED AND THEY ALL COME BACK AND SAY ABCD AND I'M TRYING TO AVOID THIS AND NOW I UNDERSTAND.

SO OKAY I'M GOOD NOW BECAUSE WE'RE COMING BACK WITH

RESOLUTION AND I'M GOOD. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, YOU HADN'T SAID ANYTHING. YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING BEFORE

I CALL THE PUBLIC HEARING? >> I'LL MAKE IT QUICK.

FIRST THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, I THOUGHT IT WAS COMPREHENSIVE. I AGREE THERE IS SOME INFILL THAT NEEDS TO BEEF UP THE PRODUCT LINE.

BUT I HAVE TO SUGGEST YOUR PASSION ISN'T ENTHUSIASTIC, IT'S REALLY -- I KNOW YOU'RE DIALED IN ON THIS AND IT IS EFFECTIVE WHAT YOU'RE COMMUNICATING WITH ME.

WE'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS ONE ON ONE AND I'M A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR THIS PROGRAM.

OF COURSE WITH MORE DETAIL COMING TOWARD AND THE TIME LINES THAT THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ADDRESSED AND WE HAVE SEEN CAMPS OF THIS, BROUGHT TO THE CITY COMMISSION AND IT WAS PROPERTY ON OLEANDER AVENUE, THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE YOU HAD DONE WHERE YOU HAD SIGNIFICANT PUSH BACK ON THE DESIGN ELEMENTS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO THE CITY AND I WAS QUITE IMPRESSED WITH THE FACT THAT YOU BASICALLY REVAMPED THAT NEGOTIATED WITH THE FOLKS THAT ARE BUILDING IT AND IT WAS SUCCESSFUL. AND SECONDARILY, WE SAW OUR SMALL INDUSTRIAL BUILDING UP IN DISTRICT 1, THAT YOU DID A SIMILAR TYPE OF, NO WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT THIS WAY, WE SUGGEST YOU DO IT THIS WAY, I WAS IMPRESSED WITH BOTH THOSE EXAMPLES. I BELIEVE THIS GIVES YOU THE TOOLS YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO CROISH A LOT MORE OF THAT.

I WOULD ADVOCATE APPROVAL OF THIS SUBJECT TO OF COURSE ADDITIONAL REVIEW FOR THE RESOLUTION.

>> OKAY. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD.

SEEING NO MOVEMENT I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE ARE ON ONLY THE ORDINANCE. 24-0 TREA.

>> MADAM MAYOR I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, YES, COMMISSIONER GAINES, YES, COMMISSIONER C JOHNSON, YES, COMMISSIONER J JOHNSON, YES AND MAYOR HUDSON.

YES. MISUNDERSTANDING, RESOLUTION 24-R 57 WILL BE MOVED TO THE NEXT MEETING.

MS. HEDGES DO WE NEED A MOTION? >> NO, STAFF HAS ALREADY MADE

THAT. >> COMMISSIONER J. JOHNSON AND I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST IN THE FUTURE.

>> THANK YOU SIR. >> THANK YOU FOR STUDYING FORT PIERCE AND MAKING US LOOK GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> IT'S COMING ALONG NICELY. I'M REALLY AS YOU SAY COMMISSIONER BRODERICK SAID I DO HAVE A LOT OF PASSION ABOUT FORT PIERCE AND IT DOES DRIVE ME CRAZY SOMETIMES.

THING FOR US. OKAY.

[b. Resolution 24-R58 Certifying General Election Results]

>> NEXT ITEM IS RESOLUTION NUMBER 24-R 58, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FLORIDA, PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> ALL RIGHTY. DID THEY COME IN?

>> YES, I JUST GOT THEM THIS MORNING.

>> I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK.

>> RESULTS ARE HERE AND THEY ARE 90 ATTACHED TO --

>> AND DO THOUGH MEET WITH WHATEVER WE ALL THINK THAT THEY

DID? >> WHAT WE NEED TO MOVE TOWARD WITH OUR CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTION NOTICES TO ALL OF YOU

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>> SWEARING IN NEXT TIME. SO IS THERE A MOTION?

>> MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND. CALL THE ROLL.

>> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, YES, COMMISSIONER GAINES, YES,

[c. Resolution 24-R59 Continuing the Acting City Manager Designation]

>> C, RESOLUTION 24-R 59, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE

DATE. >> MS. COX DO YOU WANT TO SAY

ANYTHING? >> YES, THIS IS A RESOLUTION WHICH BASICALLY CONTINUES MY SERVING IN AN ACTING CAPACITY BUT IT ALSO DOES ADDRESS THE SALARY WITH THAT ACTING APPOINTMENT. WHETHER WE INITIALLY DID THIS IT WAS 10% OF THE EXISTING SALARY, AND BASICALLY, I THINK I'VE TALKED TO ALL OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY.

IT'S A BIG JOB. IT IS A VERY TIME CONSUMING JOB AND I THINK IT WOULD ONLY BE APPROPRIATE THAT THE SALARY BE ADJUSTED TO REFLECT THAT. THAT IS WHAT THIS RESOLUTION IS

ASKING OF YOU. >> IS THERE A DISCUSSION ORE

MOTION? >> I'M HAPPY WITH IT.

>> YES. WHAT ARE THE NULLS?

>> SIR THE NUMBERS IT'S BASICALLY MOVING MORE TO BE COMMENSURATE WITH THE EXISTING DEPUTY CITY MANAGER PLUS 5%.

>> THANK YOU. >> MADAM MAYOR --

>> I'LL GIVE YOU THE ACTUAL NUMBER IF YOU WANT THE ACTUAL

NUMBER. >> I TOLD HER WE APPRECIATED THE EXTRA I DON'T KNOW, 30, 40 HOURS A WEEK FOR THE LOW LOW RATE OF 10%. SHE DIDN'T HAVE A REALLY BIG SMILE ON HER FACE WHEN WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION.

>> 10% OVER HER CLERK SALARY WAS NOT APPROPRIATE.

>> YOU KNOW, TORE VERY, VERY SHORT TERM --

>> VERY SHORT TIME WE DEALT WITH IT.

>> I WAS VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT DISCUSSION SO I WOULD MOVE

FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> DISCUSSION? >> NUMBERS PLEASE.

>> ALL RIGHTY. >> 176, 400 WOULD BE THE ANNAL SALARY DURING THE ACTING CAPACITY.

>> READY FOR THE ROLL CALL? YES, CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, YES, COMMISSIONER GAINS, YES, COMMISSIONER C JOHNSON, YES, COMMISSIONER J JOHNSON, YES,

[14. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>> COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. >> THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANYONE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE COME FORWARD. MS. REL WILL GIVE YOU A TEN SECOND WARNING. WELCOME.

>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. FIRST AND FOREMOST, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICES TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. AND C. JOHNSON, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR REELECTION AS WELL. A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE WE PASSED THE MISSIONS ABATEMENT TOTAL FOR POLICY NOTE TOO LONG AGO. AND THE POLICY THAT I PRETTY MUCH SUPPORT BECAUSE I SEE HOW THE POSITIVE IMPACT THAT IT HAS HAD OWN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME WE DO PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE THERE IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT IT ACTUALLY HURT. IS IT OKAY TO HAND YOU GUYS I PRINTED OUT SOMETHING FOR Y'ALL.

>> NO, GIVE IT TO THE CLERK. >> FANTASTIC.

BASICALLY, I JUST WANT TO SAY, BASICALLY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THERE A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HEARING FOR ONE OF THE NUISANCE ABATEMENT PROGRAM. AND THIS IS FOR A RESIDENCE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, MS. TABITHA JOHNSON, AND AS WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE SPOAL IS AND THAT THE POLICY IS DESIGNED FOR, MR. GAINES HIMSELF, WHEN HEARD THIS INITIAL POLICY HE KIND OF POINTED OUT WHAT THE ISSUES THEY HAVE, A FAMILY HAS OWNED THE PROPERTY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND TO WAKE UP ONE MORNING THEY ARE OUT OF COMPLIANCE.

THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS HAPPENED HERE.

AND THE REASONS I'M HERE TODAY IS TO ASK YOU ALL JUST TO TAKE A STEP BACK TO SLOW DOWN ON THE GUIDELINES OF THIS PARTICULAR POLICY SIMPLY BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THIS LOT HERE AND HEAR HER COMPLAINTS, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE THE VIOLATION IS TAKING PLACE. AND TO GIVE YOU GUYS THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE SEVERITY OF THE VIOLATION, THAT CURRENTLY AS WE STAND, THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN FINED $100 A DAY. 90 MS. T TABITHA JOHNSON AND SE OF THE PICTURES YOU'LL SEE THERE IS A GREEN HIGHWAYS DIRECTLY NEXT TO IT. THAT HOUSE IS THE HOME THAT SHE LIVE IN. THAT PROPERTY HAS BEEN OWNED

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AND MS. JOHNSON SHE IS A TEACHER HERE FOR THE PAST 29 YEARS. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL LOT OF THE HOME, YOU CAN SEE THAT SHE MAINTAINS HER PROPERTY. IN FACT WHEN SHE RECEIVE HER FIRST VIOLATION, SHE DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS BECAUSE AGAIN, FOR THE PREVIOUS 30 YEARS OF OWNING THAT PROPERTY OR IN HER CASE IT WAS PASSED DOWN TO HER IN

2020 -- CAN I JUST FINISH OUT? >> YOU HAVE TEN SECONDS, FINISH

QUICKLY. >> PASSED TO HER IN 2000 AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN IN THAT CONDITION AND ALL OF A SUDDEN SHE'S FOUND IN VIOLATION BEING CHARGED PPEDZ 100 A DAY IN A POSITION WHERE THIS PROPERTY CAN BE LIENED AND TAKEN AWAY

FROM HER. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> CAN I GET YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD?

968 BENTON AVENUE. CHESS PER >> ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO

[15. COMMENTS FROM THE CITY MANAGER]

>> COMMENTS FROM THE CITY MANAGER.

THE STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE IS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA FOR YOUR REVIEW. THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE OUR LAST UPDATE BEFORE WE LAUNCH INTO THE WHOLE NEW STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS. SO I THINK VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. JUST TO KIND OF TOLL UP ON MR. CHESTER, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

>> I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

>> IT WENT TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE SO WE'RE LIMITED ON WHAT WE CAN DO AT THIS POINT BUT WE'LL DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT AND MAKE ANY ADJUSTMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO THE POLICY. WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT INDIAN RIVER DRIVE MURAL IS NOW COMPLETE SO IT IS ABSOLUTELY OUTSTANDING, I DRY PAST IT ALL THE TIME AND I JUST LOVE IT.

WE ARE WORKING OWN OUR ALLEVIATE PRIORITIES THAT IS COMING UP VERY QUICKLY. ANY PRIORITIES, LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES THAT WE NEED TO HAVE OUR LEGISLATORS WEIGH THIS ON, ARE DUE TO THEM BY DECEMBER THE 2ND, SO I'LL BE TALKING WITH EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY TO SEE IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING SPECIFIC THAT YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD. BUT WE ARE WORKING ONCE AGAIN WITH GRAY ROBINSON OUR LOBBY FIRM ALONG WITH AWD RUSSIA MOORE WHO IS THE PROJECT MANAGERIAL OF THAT.

>> SOMEBODY USUALLY MAKES A PRESENTATION TO THE LEGISLATIVE

DELEGATION. >> PARDON?

>> SOMEBODY USUALLY MAKES -- >> SOMEBODY USUALLY DOES.

THE DAY OF THE PRESENTATION THAT MORNING I WILL BE ON AN AIRPLANE SO THAT WILL NOT BE ME, WE'LL BE MAKING ALTERNATE

ARRANGEMENTS FOR THAT. >> WE'LL MAKE ARRANGEMENTS FOR

THAT. >> IT IS ALREADY OWN THE CALENDAR. DECEMBER 4TH AT 4:00 IS OUR NEXT MEETING. THANK YOU TO COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOU FOR ALL OF THESE YEARS, IN BOTH THE HATS I'VE BEEN WEARING.

I ALWAYS LOOK FORWARD TO THE MEETINGS.

A LOT OF TIMES WE SAY WE WILL TALK ABOUT THE AGENDA, WE NEVER TALK ABOUT THE AGENDA. WE TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE ABOUT FORT PIERCE BUT THE AGENDA.

I APPRECIATE YOUR PASSION TO THE CITY, I KNOW TO MS. HEDGES AND ANYBODY WHO HAS SAT IN THIS SEAT, YOU ARE VERY INSIGHTFUL AND VERY PASSIONATE, PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOU, I KNOW YOU WON'T GO FAR AND I'M SURE I'LL BE REACHING OUT BUT I DO THANK YOU. ALSO JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT CITY HALL IS GOING TO BE CLOSED NEXT THURSDAY AND FRIDAY IT IS THANKSGIVING SO HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO EVERYONE.

IT IS NEXT WEEK, SO DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE BUT IT IS NEXT WEEK.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE THIS EVENING.

>> HERE SO FAST. OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS OF MS. COX? MS. REL ANYTHING? MS. HEDGES?

>> JUST BRIEFLY COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

SAME AS MS. COX, I WISH YOU WELL, YOU HAVE MY NUMBER, FEEL TREE THOUGHT TO CALL ME BUT YOU CAN CALL ME IF YOU NEED TO.

>> AT LEAST THAT, I HAVE YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS.

[16. COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION]

>> MOVE ON COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION, OKAY WHO WOULD LIKE

TO GO FIRST? >> I'LL START.

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AND MORE COMMENTS TO MS. COX AS WE PREPARE OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION CONFERENCE THAT DAY I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT. ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT I WOULD LIKE THIS UTILITY TO BE THERE AS PART OF OUR REQUEST TO TALK TO THEM. TO REALLY UNDERSTAND MADAM MAYOR AND I WORE THERE TWO YEARS AGO AND MET WITH ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES THAT DID NOT UNDERSTAND HOW WE WERE ACTUALLY SET UP AS A CITY AND HAVE A DIFFERENCE BOARD WHEN IT COMES TO GOVERNING UTILITY. HE TOOK A STEP BACK BECAUSE I GUESS SOME OF THE ALLEGED CHALLENGES WITH THIS IS THAT THERE ARE COMMISSIONS THAT THERE ARE ACTUALLY CITY COMMISSIONS THAT SIT ON THE UTILITY BOARD.

AND SO THEY KIND OF LEARNED WHAT WE WERE DOING DIFFERENT.

BUT I REALLY WANT OUR CELINGS TO HEAR THAT AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY ARE WITH THIS SO THEY CAN CONTINUE TO DIAL UNUP WITH THEIR DLIETION.

I THINK THAT SHOULD BE PRIORITY NUMBER 1 WHEN IT COMES TO THEM.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A 16% HOLE THE OUR BUDGET IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN AND THAT'S SIGNIFICANT.

>> YES. >> AND SO I THINK THAT THEY REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT AROUND WHEN THEY START THESE EARLY COMMITTEE MEETINGS, WE WOULD LIKE THAT PIPELINE OF INFORMATION AND DIALOGUE EARLY SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO NO ONLY ADVOCATE THROUGH THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES BUT WHEN WE MAKE OUR TRIP TO TALLAHASSEE AND LOCALLY IN THE DELEGATION WHILE THEY'RE HERE THEY NEED TO BE EDUCATED AS TO WHAT THIS IS AND HOW IT IMPACTS THEIR LOCAL CITY HERE.

OKAY? >> AND WHY IT'S JUSTIFIED.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> AND THE LEVEL THAT IT'S JUSTIFIED. I AGREE WITH YOU.

>> RIGHT. SO THAT IS JUST THE TOP.

AND I'LL PROBABLY HAVE A COUPLE OTHER THINGS ON IT.

AS WE'RE COMING UP ON THE HOLIDAY SEASON, I WANT TO WISH YOU GUYS A HAPPY HOLIDAY SEASON, GREAT THANKSGIVING, IT IS MY FAVORITE HOLIDAY. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON IT WAS A PLEASURE. I'M SURE YOU'LL BE AROUND, WE'LL BE CALLING WITH SOME QUESTIONS, NOW THAT I CAN TALK TO YOU, THAT YOU'RE NOT ON COMMISSION, IT WILL BE FUN.

CONVERSATION NOW! HAVE LONG- >> WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A REAL LONG CONVERSATION. ALSO, IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION TODAY, I GOT A COMMUNICATION FROM SOMEONE THAT WAS INTERESTED IN A CITY MANAGER POSITION AND APPLYING FOR IT. AND THEY WERE RG SOME CHALLENGES WITH I GUESS UPLOADING SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS AND/OR INFORMATION WITH THAT. SO I WANT TO MAKE HR AWARE MAKE YOU GUYS AWARE WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT SYSTEM IS WORKING.

I'M GOING TO FOLLOW WITH THIS PERSON PROBABLY IT THIS WITH A QUICK PHONE CALL BUT I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION. I THINK WE NEED TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT'S THERE AND THAT WE HAVE COMMUNICATED THAT OUT PUBLICLY THAT THE LINK IS UP FOR THAT IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN,

IS THAT CORRECT? >> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, YES, SIR, THE CITY MANAGER SEARCH WILL BE GOING THROUGH MY OFFICE AS MS. COX FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD HAS A CONFLICT OF

INTEREST. >> I UNDERSTAND.

>> SO I WILL COMMUNICATE THAT WITH HR.

IT WAS, I DID SEND YOU THE LINK TODAY TO THE POSTING BUT I WILL HAVE THEM DOUBLE CHECK. I BELIEVE IT IS A NEW SYSTEM THAT THEY ARE USING SO I WILL MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS RUNNING SMOOTHLY AND THEY DOUBLE CHECK EVERYTHING.

>> I ASSUME APPLICANTS IF THEY WANT TO UPLOAD DOCUMENTS OR SUPPORTING INFORMATION, WHATEVER, THAT WAS THE PROBLEM, TO ATTACH IT TO THE ACTUAL APPLICATION.

>> YES, SIR. LET THEM KNOW IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS THEY CAN SPEAK TO HR AND HELP THEM.

>> WHEN IS THIS CLOSING? I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE

PUBLICLY NOTICED. >> I BELIEVE WE GAVE IT 30 DAYS IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY BUT I'D HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK TO TELL

YOU WITH 100% CERTAINTY. >> OKAY THAT WAS IT.

THE OTHER THING, YOU KNOW, THAT I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY CALL OUR ATTENTION TO IS THAT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, PARTICULARLY ME IN THE DISTRICT THAT ELECTED ME AND THE AREA THAT I REPRESENT, WE ARE ABOUT TO UNDERGO SOME CHANGES.

I'M HEARING SOME CONCERNS RIGHT 90 ABOUT PARTS OF MY COMMUNITY THAT ARE AFRAID AND SCARED. AND I THINK THAT AS A COMMISSIONER, THAT REPRESENTS THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY, LATINO COMMUNITY, CEO OWE COMMUNITY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE VIGILANT HERE, LIN TO OUR CITIZENS IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, I'M LETTING YOU KNOW, WE ACTUALLY MET WITH A DELEGATION AND SO I'VE REACHED OUT TO THAT SAME COUNSELOR GENERAL OUT OF

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SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW.

AGAIN I WANT TO WISH YOU A HAPPY HOLIDAYS, SAFE TRAVELS FOR THOSE THAT WILL BE TRAVELING AND COMMISSIONER JOHNSON FIRST COKE TAIL WILL BE ON ME WHEN I SEE YOU OUTSIDE

THIS DOOR. >> THANK YOU SIR.

>> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. >> THANK YOU, MAKE IT QUICK.

I THINK THE LEGISLATION ACTION, I RECENTLY COMPLETED THE M-2 TRAINING, THIS WAS A SPECIFIC TOPIC OF THE TRAINING, THE DOWN SIDE OF THAT IS CHALLENGE TO PUT IT MILDLY.

EVEN THOUGH THE FORMAT IS PLACE FOR THIS CITY OF FORT PIERCE SPECIFICALLY WITH HOW WE HAVE DESIGNED THIS AND LAID IT OUT, IS ALMOST IRRELEVANT. THERE IS SUCH A MOVE TO ELIMINATE THESE CONTRIBUTIONS THE TO THE UTILITIES TO THE CITIES IS ALMOST SWEEPING. WE HAVE TO GET INTO THE LEGISLATOR'S EARS, THE UPCOMING CONTRIBUTION FROM FPUA IS UPWARDS OF $7 MILLION TO THE CITY.

THAT IS A SUBSTANTIAL PORTION OF OUR OPERATING BUDGET, THAT CAN'T BE COMPENSATED EXCEPT THROUGH TAX INCREASES.

WHICH WE DON'T WANT. TO SOLICIT THEIR SUPPORT IN SPREADING THESE CONCERNS TO OTHER LEGISLATORS BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE A -- I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE HIGH ON THE PRIORITY LIST WHEN THE LEGISLATURE RECONVENES TO

ELIMINATE THAT. >> THERE IS SOME OUTLIERS AND

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS YES. >> TO TAKE THE -- WELL LET'S JUST USE THE, LET'S CULL THE MOSQUITO WITH A TANK APPROACH MAKES NO SENSE BUT IN THE PERSPECTIVE IT IS A SIMPLE SOLUTION, TO SWEEP IT AWAY, NOT REALLY CONTEMPLATING THE FINANCIAL DAMAGE IT CAN DO TO BUDGETS LIKE OURS.

WE'RE REALLY GOING TO HAVE TO WORK HARD TO GET THE LEGISLATURES ON LINE WITHTH, WITH REPETITIVE HAMMERING AWAY OWE ON THEM THAT THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY OF

FORT PIERCE. >> IT IS 6% IS ALL, SOME OF THE OUTLIERS IS A MUCH HIGHER PERCENTAGE WHICH HAS GOTTEN US INTO TROUBLES IN THE FIRST PLACE.

>> I WAS STUNNED, 12, 15% OF GROSS REVENUE THIS TYPE OF THING, JEEZ, THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY IF WE DID THAT.

I GET IT, IT IS INAPPROPRIATE, IT IS USURY, CLEARLY, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK HARD TO PROTECT THIS THESE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CITY BUDGET WE'VE GOT OUR WORK CUT IDENTITY FOR US, WE GOT TO GET ON IT.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES.

>> YES, COMMISSIONER BRODERICK JUST TO FOAL UP ON WHAT YOU WERE SAYING. IT IS NOT ONLY THE -- IT IS NOT ONLY THE 6% OR LIKE YOU SAID ALMOST TEN, 15, IT IS THE CHARGING OF FEES TO RESIDENTS OR PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY LIMITS THAT WE PROVIDE SERVICES TO.

THEY WANT TO LOWER THOSE OR TAKE THOSE AWAY ALSO.

SO IT'S BIGGER THAN -- IT'S YES, I'M TEXTING MS. COX AND TOAXING MS. MORRIS WHEN I'M IN THE MEETING BUT THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES MY POLICY COMMITTEE WE ARE YOU KNOW AIMING UP TO TIGHT IT BECAUSE THE SENTIMENT IN THE ROOM IS THAT IT COULD CRIPPLE CITIES LIKE OURSELVES IF THIS WENT THROUGH. SO THEY ARE LISTENING.

AND I THINK I TOLD THE MAYOR WHEN I WALKED OUT, I FINALLY STOOD UP AND PEOPLE ARE LIKE WHERE YOU BEEN ALL THIS TIME? I HAD THE LISTEN TO EVERYTHING AND LEARN THE ROOM.

SO THE WORD IS OUT. AND AS YOU SAY, I LOVE THAT ANALOGY, I'M GOING TO GO BACK WHEN WE GO BACK IN DECEMBER I'M GOING TO USE THAT MOSQUITO WITH A TANK.

BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THERE THAT PROBABLY HAVE A COUPLE OF TANKS TO KILL ONE MOSQUITO SO TO SPEAK.

BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. ONE CONCERN COMMISSIONER JOHNSON ALSO HAD THOSE CONCERNS AND SOME CALLS ABOUT, YOU KNOW,

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ONE THING I GOT TO BRING UP. WE HAVE A NOISE AUDIENCE AND WE SET THROUGH HIM COMMITTEE MEETINGS?

>> A LOT. >> AND I'M GETTING A LOT OF COMPLAINTS IN DISTRICT 1 ABOUT CERTAIN AREAS WITH NOISE.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN'T CONTROL EVERYTHING.

BUT WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE TELLING ME, AND I CAN ONLY GO BY WHAT THEY'RE TELLING ME, IS THAT THEY'RE ALMOST GETTING NO HELP OR TURNED OFF WHEN THEY CALL TO REPORT THE NOISE COMPLAINT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE TOLD THEM TO DO. THAT'S WHAT WE TOLD THEM TO DO BUT THEY'RE GETTING LIKE NO HELP OR THEY'RE GETTING LIKE OH, IT'S YOU AGAIN. YOU KNOW? AND THEN NOBODY COMES. SO I DON'T KNOW HIGHWAY WE CAN ADDRESS THAT. OKAY HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE SOMETHING THAT COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH ALWAYS SAID, I HEARD HIM SAY LIKE MY FIRST YEAR, BEEN AN ORDINANCE OR LAW ON THE BOOKS AND WE DON'T ENFORCE IT MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. AND I KNOW WE SIT HERE LISTEN

TO METERS AND -- >> DECIBELS.

>> DECIBELS AND WE CHANGED EVERYTHING AND I KNOW THAT EDGARTOWN NOT BRINGING THAT BACK UP, I KNOW THEY'RE A SPECIAL DISTRICT. BUT I WANT US TO DO EXACTLY WHAT WE DID FOR EDGARTOWN FOR THE OTHER RESIDENTS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH TRYING TO SIT IN THEIR HOUSE AND LIVE PEACEFULLY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT BUT WHAT IT IS, IS IT'S NOT REALLY -- IT'S ONE OR TWO LITTLE, I WANT TO CALL RESTAURANTS, NIGHT CLUBS, SLASH WHATEVER THAT I'M GOING TO GO TALK TO AND SAY GUYS, I'M GOING TO GO DO THAT AKD TALK TO THEM, I DON'T WANT TO SHUT YOU DOWN, YOU ARE A BUSINESS, IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, CAN WE SEE SOME TYPE OF MODIFICATION THAT WE CAN DO INSIDE. BUT WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT WE HAVE THESE TRUCKS THAT RIDE AROUND OR PARKING IN A PUBLIC PARK AND THEY GOT THESE SPEAKERS AND THEY GOT THESE SPEAKERS BLASTING ALL TIME OF THE NIGHT AND ALL TIME OF THE DAY. AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE ADDRESSED THAT OR WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE I KNOW I SHOULDN'T HEAR ANYTHING FROM 29TH STREET ON, 16TH STREET BUT I DO. AND I NORMALLY GET A LOT OF CALLS FROM THIS, BUT I DON'T CARE.

WE HAVE SOME HOUSE OF WORSHIP, THAT TRY TO GET EVERYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IN THE COMMUNITY TO HEAR THEIR SERMONS INSTEAD OF KEEPING IT ON THE INSIDE OF THE CHURCH.

>> OUTSIDE RESIDENTS. >> THE RESIDENTS THAT COME TO ME ARE ATWRAID TO COME IN AROUND FACE US.

THEY ARE AFRAID BECAUSE OF RETALIATION AROUND I GET IT BUT I'M NOT TRYING TO TELL ANY PASTOR NOT TO SAVE A SOUL, PLEASE DO NOTE WRITE ME WITH THAT.

BUT YOU KNOW I TOLD THIS ONE PASTOR I SAID I GREW UP IN ST.

PAUL. AME CHURCH.

ALL MY LIFE. AND I NEVER REMEMBER EVEN WHEN WE HAVE REVIVALS DURING THE WEEK AND REVIVALS DURING THE WEEK I NEVER REMEMBER ANY OF THOSE PASTORS GETTING ON A SPEAKER PHONE OR OUTSIDE SPEAKERS TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY. NOW, I UNDERSTAND IF YOU HAVE A TENT REVIVAL BUT YOU GOT TO GET A PERMIT FOR THAT TO HAVE THAT.

SO I UNDERSTAND -- >> AND IT IS TEMPORARY, USUAL.

>> IT'S TEMPORARY. SOASSO PASTORS, PLEASE DON'T WE ME. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY TO GET ALONG. BUT MY CONCERN IS IF WE'RE CALLING RESIDENTS TO CALL AND REPORT IT AND THEY'RE BEING SHUNNED OR BEING SAID, IT'S YOU AGAIN, WHY DO WE HAVE A NOISE ORDINANCE? BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE

CAN MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY -- >> AND MAKE A RECORD OF IT.

>> AND MAKE A RECORD OF IT. I WANT TO BRING THAT TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION. I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY ELSE

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SO THAT'S MY PART ON THAT. AGAIN, JEREMIAH, IT'S BEEN GREAT. IT'S BEEN GREAT WORKING WITH YOU. I'LL LET YOU HAVE YOUR PEACE FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR BUT DON'T CHANGE YOUR NUMBER BECAUSE NOW I CAN TALK TO YOU AND PICK YOUR BRAIN IN JANUARY.

I'M JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU. I MEAN I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO AT LEAST A MEETING WHERE WE CAN SIT DOWN AND WE CAN TRY TO SIT DOWN AND TRY TO USE THIS OTHER EDUCATION WE HAVE OF AN ENGINEER AND A LAWYER AND WORK ON SOME OTHER THINGS TO SAY OKAY NOW, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, I WISHED WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT EARLIER BECAUSE WE COULD DO THAT NOW.

I LOOK FORWARD TO STILL PICKING YOUR BRAIN ON THAT.

TO EVERYBODY HAVE A -- WE WON'T SEE EACH OTHER HAVE A GREAT THANKSGIVING, HAVE A SAFE THANKSGIVING.

ALWAYS SAY LOOK IDENTITY FOR THE KIDS, THEY BE OUT OF SCHOOL. THEY'LL BE OUT OF SCHOOL JUST LOOK OUT FOR THE. AND I THINK WE HAVE A -- WE'VE BEEN BLESSED BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE REMNANTS OF CELL,.YOU DIDN'T TURN INTO A HURRICANE BUT WE WILL HAVE A MAJOR STORM, COLD FRONT COMING IN.

SO LET'S, YOU KNOW, JUST BE MINDFUL OF THAT.

AND I WANT TO THANK -- I THINK IT'S PUBLIC WORKS, I SAW THE TRUCKS BACK OUT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD TODAY, I KNOW COMMISSIONER JOHNSON HAD SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE SIDE STREETS AND COMING IN HERE COMMISSIONER JOHNSON I KNOW A COUPLE OF THE SIDE STREETS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.

I KNOW THEY PICKED UP 16TH. AND I KNOW THEY PICKED UP 15TH. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WENT DOWN THAT ONE WAY. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WENT DOWN THAT ONE WAY, TREANT. AND I SAW THEM -- 14TH.

I SAW THEM TRYING TO USE THE GAFF TO GET SOME OFF OF 15TH OFF THE FIELD. BUT RIGHT UNDER THAT ELECTRICAL, THEY WERE TRYING TO GET THERE.

I TELL THE RESIDENTS HAVE PATIENCE.

HAVE PATIENCE. WE'RE TRYING TO DO, WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT THE BEST WE CAN WITH THE DEBRIS.

SO WE GOT YOUR E-MAILS. WE'VE NOTIFIED THE PEOPLE THAT THEY DO IT BUT JUST BE PATIENT AND I GOT TO SAY THIS, AND WHATEVER DRIVER THAT GOT THE STUFF IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSIONER DUKE NELSON'S HOUSE JUST PERSONALLY THANK YOU FROM ME BECAUSE THAT WAS, THEIR FAMILY WAS VERY UPSET, YOU KNOW I'M JUST SAYING IT'S MOVED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND IT'S MOVED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE SO I THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND TO THE PUBLIC WORKS WHO ARE OUT THERE PEOPLE REALLY DON'T KNOW HIGHWAY HARD THEY'RE WORKING BECAUSE THEY'RE OUT THERE MOVING DEBRIS, KEEPING THE ROADS CLEAN, BUT ALSO TRYING TO PUT UP CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS, TRYING TO PUT UP CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS, WHY? JUST TO MAKE THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL. SO AGAIN I PUT IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, I'LL SEE IT HERE. WHEN YOU SEE ONE OF THE PUBLIC WORKS GUYS OR LADIES, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF ASKING THEM WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO GET TO YOUR HOUSE OR WHEN THEY ARE GOING TO DO THIS, A THANK YOU TO SOME OF THOSE GUYS THAT START WORKING AT 4, 5 IN THE MORNING. THANK YOU GOES A LONG WAY IN GETTING THEM THROUGH THEIR DAY. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE HARD WORK THAT THE CITY EMPLOYEES AND EVERYBODY IS DOING AND HAVE A SAFE HOLIDAY.

>> JAY JOHNSON. >> THANK YOU.

, YOUEE COMMISSIONERS, CAN, YOU KNOW, ALL THE CITY DEPARTMENTS ARE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB SPECIFICALLY GETTING READY FOR A BUSY HOLIDAY SEASON, PUBLIC WORKS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB, I'VE SEEN THEM IN PARTS OF THE CITY MULTIPLE TIMES.

I DID SEE THE OTHER DAY ONE OF OUR SOLID WASTE TRUCKS OR REFUSE TRUCK PULLING DOWN, PROBABLY EDWARDS PROBABLY COMING THERE A DUMP AND I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THE TRUCK.

IT WAS -- I SAW THE FRONT OF IT AND I SAID OOH MAN THAT TRUCK LOOKS A LITTLE ROUGH, USED WORL ON IT, I WAS LIKE OH NO.

IT'S VERY TOUGH, VERY EXPENSIVE FOR THOSE TRUCKS.

>> BRINGING OUT THE OLD GUARD. >> THEY ARE STILL RUNNING THE ROAD AND I'M HAPPY TO SEE AT LEAST WE'RE KEEPING UP WITH THAT PART OF IT. BUT OVERALL I WILL JUST SHARE WITH YOU ALL, I HAVE A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH JAMES

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>> HE SERVED IN THE COUNTY DIDN'T HE?

>> HE SERVED IN THE COUNTY FOR NINE YEARS, HE WAS CAME FOR MULTIPLE TIMES. I JUST APPRECIATE JAMES.

I'M SO GLAD HE STEPPED UP TO DO IT.

HE'S ALWAYS HAD THE WILL AND THE PASSION TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY. AND HE HAS A LOT OF HISTORY HERE WITH HIS FAMILY. SO I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, TURNING THE ATTENTION FROM ME AND MOVING ALONG AND HE JUST -- HE'S GOING TO SERVE OUR CITY WELL.

AND SO I'M KITED EXCITED ABOUT. A NEW PERSPECTIVE, A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. I'M EXCITED FOR JAMES, HIS WIFE IS JENNA, A GREAT COUPLE THAT RESIDE HERE IN FORT PIERCE.

AS FAR AS THE WHOLE UTILITY THING WHATEVER COMES OUT OF IT, I KNOW THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT THE SURCHARGE, THERE ARE REASONS FOR THAT, AND I'M -- I CAN'T WAIT TO SHARE WITH OUR DELEGATION ABOUT WHAT THOSE REASONS ARE BECAUSE I HAVE A PERSPECTIVE ON THE REASONS WHY HISTORY HAS SHOWN THAT WE WANTED TO GROW OUR CITY BUT WE ALSO, ME AS A RESIDENT I'M GOING TO SAY IT BECAUSE I SAID IT EARLIER TONIGHT.

I'M INVESTING IN MY OWN CITY THROUGH PAYING MY UTILITY BILLS. I'VE ALWAYS HAD THAT FEELING AND THAT'S A WEIRD THOUGHT BECAUSE I'M PAYING FOR A SERVICE BUT AT THE SAME TIME I'M EXCITED THAT I OWN PART OF THAT. I OWN, JEREMIAH JOHNSON, KELLY JOHNSON, AND OUR FAMILY WE OWN PART OF THAT.

I'M GOING TO JUST THAT AS PART OF MY PR CAMPAIGN, I OWN THIS UTILITY AS PART OF A BIGGER FAMILY BECAUSE THOSE THAT ARE IN THE COMMERCIAL WORLD THEY'RE NOT PART OF MY FAMILY.

THEY ALL LIVE HERE NECESSARILY, THEY MIGHT, THERE ARE BUSINESS OWNERS THAT DO UNLESS SOMEONE DOES OR DOESN'T, BUT THOSE THAT ARE NOT FROM HERE, THAT IS STILL PART OF OUR THING, WELCOME TO OUR FAMILY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING A COMMERCIAL PART OF OUR FAMILY. AND SO IT'S JUST KIND OF THAT IDEA, YOU KNOW, AND THAT PERSPECTIVE.

SOMEBODY WITH MARKETING AND PR CAMPAIGNS CAN DO A WAY BETTER JOB THAN I JUST DID BUT THAT'S TRUE OF MY FEELING.

>> THEY, I'M SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF, THEY NEED TO HEAR IT EXACTLY HOW YOU'RE SAYING IT. BECAUSE IN THAT ROOM, I SAID SOME OF THE SAME THINGS, THIS IS WHY, THEY NEED TO HEAR IT NOT FROM PR, FROM RESIDENTS JUST LIKE YOU, THAT'S WHAT THEY

NEED TO HEAR. >> I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT, I BELIEVE THAT IS OUR FOREFATHERS AND THE FOLKS THAT BROUGHT THAT FORWARD, I'M SURE THEY CONCOCTED IT MAYBE IN THE 60S OR THEY WERE TIRED OF SOME POLITICAL SOMETHING, WE GOT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, RYE? ANYWAY.

THAT'S MY POAIVET ON THE WHOLE THING BEING AND IT'S JUST VERY UNIQUE. SO LINDA THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR OUR EIGHT YEARS TOGETHER. I MEAN, IT'S BEEN VERY SPECIAL AND, YOU KNOW, COMING ON BOARD AND WORKING WITH EACH OTHER IN DIFFERENT CAPACITIES I'VE ENJOYED OVER MINUTE SO IT'S A VERY, VERY MUCH A FRIENDSHIP AT THE SAME TIME VERY PROFESSIONAL. SO THAT'S VERY POSITIVE AND VERY I'M VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT.

SO SAME WITH SARAH, YOU KNOW JUST APPRECIATE IT.

JUST WE'VE -- I LIKE TO CAUSE A RUCKUS WITH YOU AT THE SAME TIME I LIKE TO JOKE, YOU KNOW, BAW WE HAVE THAT SENSE OF HUMOR. BECAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT LENS THAT I GOOD GET TO LOOK THROUGH THAN YOUR LENS BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR LENS, YEAH YEAH, NO NO, I LIKE TO HEAR TRIP HAZARDS, I LIKE TO HEAR THOSE THINGS. BUT YEAH I'LL BOTHER YOU I'M SURE SOME TIME, THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, YOU MENTIONED IT, I DIDN'T SAY IT BUT I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT AND TINA GOOD JOB, GOOD JOB, APPRECIATE YOUR WORK, OFFICER IN THE ROOM, EEN THOUGH HE'S PLAYING ON HIS PHONE, MR. PICTURE TAKER, IT'S ALL RIGHT, HE'S LIKE WHOA, I HAD TO GET YOU, WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT STORM WATER, THERE IT IS.

HE AND I ALWAYS TEASE, YOU KNOW WHY I SAID THAT, THAT MAN RIGHT THERE JACK ANDREWS WE HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP MANY, MANY

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IT'S BEEN VERY EXCITING. YOU GUYS MIGHT LAUGH AT ME FOR A SECOND AND I THINK I DID IT RIGHT, COUNTED IT MULTIPLE TIMES MADE SURE I DIDN'T MISS IT BUT I THINK I'LL BE THE 50TH PERSON ON THE WALL OUT THERE.

I APPRECIATE HISTORY ONOT BECAUSE OF ME BUT I STARTED TO LOOK THROUGH FROM BEGINNING TO END IT'S VERY NEAT, 1901 WHEN OUR CITY WAS INCORPORATED. SO I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS

PRETTY COOL. >> THAT'S RIGHT.

WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR YOUR PICTURE UP THERE.

>> IT WILL KEEP SOME BUGS AWAY, I PROMISE.

SO IT WAS JUST UNIQUE. I LOVE HISTORY AS YOU KNOW.

AND I ATTRIBUTE MY TIME HERE TO A LOT OF FOLKS THAT MADE A BIG IMPACT ON ME ALL OF MY ST. LUCIE COUNTY TEACHERS THROUGHOUT MY PARENTS OF COURSE MY WIFE AND OUR FAMILY.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS AND I'M STILL HERE I'M A RESIDENT, VERY PROUD RESIDENT, AND I'LL JUST SEND YOU A PICTURE OF WHAT I'M DOING WHILE Y'ALL ARE IN THIS MEETING.

AS A SIDE NEAT. >> LIKE SOMEBODY ELSE USED TO

SEND YOU PICTURES. >> YOU'LL NEVER KNOW WHEN IT'S COMING BUT THANK YOU ALL. APPRECIATE IT GREATLY.

THANK YOU MA'AM. >> THE CITY GETS YOU EVERYONE.

>> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? >> THAT MEANS YOU CAN GO ANYWHERE WITH THE KEY TO THE CITY.

>> BUT I HAVE TO CARRY THIS AROUND.

DOES IT COME -- >> WHERE IS THE SWIPE CARD?

>> OLD FASHIONED. RIGHT.

SO WELL, EVERYBODY'S COVERED A LOT TONIGHT BUT I WANTED TO COVER THE FORT PIERCE IMPRESSIVE SAFETY ACTION PLAN.

WHICH IS A GRANT THAT FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT GOT.

AND I'VE BEEN KIND OF PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT.

AND YOU CAN GO ONLINE AND TAKE THE SURVEY AND YOU CAN GO TO A MAP AN YOU CAN TELL, PUT MARKERS ON THE MAP, INTERSECTIONS THAT YOU TEAL ARE NOT SAFE.

AND YOU CAN ALSO TELL THEM, ROADS THAT YOU TEAL ARE NOT SAFE. AND SO I WENT ON AND PLAYED AROUND WITH THIS. AND SO IT'S LIKE ALL OF U.S. 1, REALLY, BUT I PUT ON 29TH STREET, YOU KNOW, THE SPEEDING THAT GOES ON ON 29TH. SO IT GIVES YOU -- SO WE SIT UP HERE AS A CITION AND TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC AND SPEEDING AND THIS IS A WAY TO HAVE INPUT FOR US TO HAVE INPUT AND I HOPE FOR OUR RESIDENTS. YOU CAN DO IT FROM THE HOME PAGE OF THE CITY WEBSITE, YOU CAN CLICK ON THAT AND YOU CAN READ ABOUT THE WHOLE ACTION PLAN.

AND THERE ARE THREE DATES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE OPEN MEETINGS. ON DECEMBER 5TH THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING AT THE REC CENTER ON THE 10TH AND FENN CENTER AND ON THE 12TH AT THE GARDEN CLUB.

THIS IS THE WAY TO HAVE INPUT ON HOW WE CAN EFFECTIVELY ADDRESS SAFETY, TRAFFIC SAFETY IN FORT PIERCE.

AND IT'S REALLY -- IT'S REALLY COOL.

IT'S REALLY A NEAT WAY TO HAVE INPUT.

AND THEY EXPECT TO HAVE A -- RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE SPRING OF 2025. AND SO --

>> DO THEY DEFINE THE WORD SAFE?

DOES THAT MEAN LIKE -- >> THEY TALKED ABOUT, THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT TRANSPORTATION AND THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT PEDESTRIANS, THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT ROADS, AND THEY'RE -- AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT INTERSECTIONS.

AND SO IT'S JUST A WAY TO SAY HERE, ONE OF THE INTERSECTIONS I PUT WAS THE ONE UP ON -- IT'S NOT JUANITA, MAYBE IT'S JUANITA AND U.S. 1, IT IS A CURVE AND IT'S HARD TO TURN LEFT AND THERE'S NO LIGHT, RIGHT? THERE'S MAYBE IT'S ANOTHER -- MAYBE IT'S NOT JUANITA, BECAUSE MAYBE JUANITA IS WHERE THE LIGHT IS TO GO DOWN TO DIX EA. I FEEL THERE ARE LIGHTS THAT ARE DANGEROUS FOR PEDESTRIANS TO CROSS, TRAFFIC IS GOING TOO FAST, WHATEVER. IT IS A WAY TO HAVE INPUT INTO SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALL COMPLAINED ABOUT UP HERE.

AND PEOPLE ON INDIAN RIVER DRIVE WHO ARE IMPATIENT WITH THE SPEED LIMIT AND WHO PASS, RIGHT? SO AT ANY RATE, I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT THAT.

I PLAYED AROUND WITH THAT AND I HAD A GOOD TIME WITH IT.

I'M GOING TO GO BACK AND I THOUGHT OF SOME MORE

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SO -- >> I CAN SHARE TOO.

I DIDN'T SAY IT EARLIER. JUST MISSED ME.

BUT I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE BEING PRAYED FOR ALL THE TIME. YOU'RE BEING PRAYED FOR.

AND WHETHER IT'S BY ME OR GOT OTHER, YOU KNOW, MEN AND WOMEN IN MY GROUPS. AND I TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY.

AND I SHARE THAT WITH YOU BECAUSE IT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO ME. SO --

>> THANK YOU. >> EACH ONE OF YOU UP HERE.

WHAT, YOU KNOW, AS THE DAILY EMPLOYEE OR AS THE ELECTED OFFICIAL. SO BUT SPECIFICALLY FOR YOU FOUR AS MY PEER AND MY TEAM MATE, ABSOLUTELY.

I MEAN -- SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, SO I WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY A SAFE AND HAPPY THANKSGIVING. THERE'S LOTS OF PROGRAMS OUT THERE FOR FEEDING PEOPLE THAT WE'RE ALL -- I THINK WE HAVE A TOAD BANKS THING ON SATURDAY DON'T WE?

>> OWN EVERYBODY'S CALENDARS. >> AS PERCY PEAK.

HAVE A HAPPY THANKSGIVING. WE'RE G

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