[a. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 24-040 - Review and approval for a Voluntary Annexation by applicant and owner Guillermo Claure, to extend the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include two (2) parcels at or near the intersection of S. Ocean Drive and Blue Heron Blvd., establishing The request is to annex Parcel IDs: 2413-501-0176-000-6 and 2413-501-0288-000-3, located at or near the intersection of S. Ocean Drive and Blue Heron Blvd. - SECOND READING]

NUMBER 24-040, AN ORDINANCE EXCEEDING THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS TO INCLUDE TWO PARCELS AT OR NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTH OCEAN DRIVE AND BLUE HERON BOULEVARD AND SHOWN ON EXHIBIT A DIRECTING THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER TO ASSESS THE SAID PROPERTY AND PLACE IT ON THE CITY TAX RULES AS OF JANUARY 1ST, 2025. COLLECT TAXES ON THE HEARING DESCRIBED PROPERTY. ESTABLISHING ZONE USEFULLY DESIGNATION, DIRECTING WITH THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY DIRECTING REVISION OF THE CHARTER BOUNDARY BE FILED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC AND DEMOGRAPHIC RESEARCH PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT HEREWITH AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE .

>> THIS IS THE SECOND READING. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

SEEING NO MOVEMENT, I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND COME BACK TO

THE COMMISSION FOR A MOTION. >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> THERE IS A MOTION AND SECOND. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

[b. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 24-043 - Amending the Code of Ordinances of the City of Fort Pierce Chapter 125, Zoning, Article VII, Supplementary Regulations, Division 1 - Generally, Section 125-314 Design Review, to provide for General Design Review updates and allow for architectural Design Standards, which shall be adopted by Resolution; providing for a severability clause, repealing all Ordinances or parts thereof in conflict, and providing an effective date. - SECOND READING.]

>> NUMBER 24-043. ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA AMENDING CHAPTER 125 ZONING ARTICLES 7 SUPPLEMENTARY REGULATIONS DIVISION ONE

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GENERALLY SECTION 125-314 DESIGN REVIEW TO PROVIDE FOR GENERAL DESIGN REVIEW UPDATES AND ALLOW FOR ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS TO WHICH SHALL BE ADOPTED FOR RESOLUTION PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS A SECOND READING.

>> THIS IS THE SECOND READING. WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. MR. FREEMAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING TO YOUR

PREVIOUS PRESENTATION? >> CONGRATULATIONS, MADAM MAYOR. CONGRATULATIONS TO COMMISSIONER TAYLOR AND MR. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. I AM HERE WITH A SECOND HEARING TODAY OF A ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS. IF THE COMMISSIONERS WHO WERE HERE LAST TIME MAY RECALL -- JUST AS A HEADS UP TO OUR NEW COMMISSIONER , THIS WAS HEARD INITIALLY ON FIRST READING. IT IS A DOCUMENT THAT IS PROPOSED TO BE ADOPTED BY RESOLUTION OF THE ITEM . SUBSEQUENTLY TO THIS ONE. A RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE CITY'S ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS.

AT THE FIRST HEARING , THERE WERE QUESTIONS REGARDING THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR IN FIELD DEVELOPMENT . PRIMARILY SMALL RESIDENTIAL LOTS. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL LOTS IN THE CITY, WHICH DO NOT MEET STANDARDS ZONING REQUIREMENTS.

SO THERE IS ALL WAYS A DIFFICULTY IN DEVELOPING THOSE.

WE FOUND THAT IN THE LINCOLN PARK COMMUNITY THAT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DESIGN AND BUILD SMALL RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT WITHOUT MAKING THEM REALLY UNLIVABLE IN TERMS OF THE DIMENSIONS. SO THIS CODE LOOKS TO RESOLVE THAT BY ALLOWING A DIFFERENT METHODOLOGY OF APPLYING THROUGH THE INNOVATIVE COMMUNITY DESIGN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS . AND THIS DESIGN STANDARD ACTUALLY HELPS THAT PROCESS BY RECOMMENDING AND STANDARDIZING SOME OF THE ASPECTS OF THAT TO ENCOURAGE SMALL HOMES AND PERMIT SMALL HOMES ON THESE REALLY DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP LOTS. AND SINCE THE FIRST READING WE PUT ON -- ANOTHER SECTION INTO THE DESIGN STANDARDS, WHICH SPECIFICALLY DEAL WITH SMALL LOT DEVELOPMENT . I WILL PULL THAT SECTION UP HERE . AND SO WE ARE SAYING THAT WE UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SMALL LOTS IN THE CITY AND WE SEE LOTS THAT VARY FROM 37 TO 60 FEET , WHICH FIND IT DIFFICULT TO MEET THE CURRENT ZONING STANDARDS IN THAT AREA.

THERE ARE ALSO PLATTED LOTS, WHICH MAY BE DIFFERENT FROM THOSE DIMENSIONS, BUT THOSE WOULD ALSO BE CONSIDERED ACCEPTABLE TO BE DEVELOPED UNDER INNOVATIVE COMMUNITY DESIGN REGULATIONS . AND THIS COMMUNITY DESIGN REGULATIONS INNOVATIVE . THEY ALLOW STANDARDS ZONING AND SETBACK REQUIREMENTS TO BE VARIED USING THE INNOVATIVE COMMUNITY REGULATIONS. ALL THE VARIANCES MOVE FORWARD UNDER -- AND ARE APPROVED WITH A SITE PLAN BASED ON THAT SITE PLAN MEETING VARIOUS DESIGN REGULATIONS AND LOOKING TO -- LOOKING TO STANDARDIZE WHAT WE EXPECT IN THE AREAS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PRESSURED TO REDEVELOP FOR THESE SMALL LOTS. AND SOME OF THE ASPECTS WE'RE LOOKING AT IS TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT BUT WITH SOME ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES INCORPORATED. SO WE MAINTAIN A CHARACTER FOR THE COMMUNITY . WE HAVE HAD APPLICATIONS COMING IN FOR MOBILE HOMES ON THESE SMALL LOTS AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE DON'T WANT TO ENCOURAGE UNLESS THEY ARE DESIGNED TO A CERTAIN STANDARD. SO THE STATE DOES REGULATE HOW MUCH ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN WE CAN PLACE ON RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS , HOWEVER, THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE WAIVED TO A CERTAIN EXTENT IN AREAS WHERE IT IS COVERED BY A COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA . SO ADOPTING THESE REGULATIONS ACTUALLY HELPS US CONTROL BETTER OR HELP DESIGN BETTER THE COMMUNITIES WE ARE LOOKING TO GET THE IN PHIL RESIDENTIAL TO BE MORE ENCOURAGED . SOME ASPECTS OF THIS THE PROPOSAL SHALL DEMONSTRATE COMPATIBILITY WITH CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN WHICH IT IS LOCATED. SO THAT WOULD BE A CONSIDERATION OF WHAT IS ALREADY THERE. HOW DOES IT AFFECT -- HOW DOES IT DEMONSTRATE THAT IT PROTECTS THE EXISTING ADJOINING NEIGHBORS ? AND SOMETHING WE

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WILL BE FACING WITH THESE INFILL LOTS IS THE IMPACT OF STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND DIFFERENT LEVELS OF DEVELOPMENT AND FLOOD ELEVATIONS THAT WILL BE REQUIRED FROM BUILDING POINT OF VIEW WITHIN THESE SMALL LOTS. WE ARE ENCOURAGING TO MOVE AWAY FROM LOT PHIL AND TO UTILIZE STAND WHILE BUILDING TECHNIQUES TO CUT DOWN ON THE NUMBER OF ASPECT OF FLOODING ONTO NEIGHBORS' PROPERTY. WE ARE ALSO ENCOURAGING ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. AND THAT IS AN OPTION THAT WE HOPE A LOT OF EXISTING RESIDENTS WILL TAKE UP . TO PUT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS ON THEIR PROPERTY TO ACTUALLY HELP THEM ACCOMMODATE FAMILY MEMBERS OR ACCOMMODATE SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THEIR LOTS. AND ACTUALLY BENEFIT FROM SOME RESIDUAL INCOME FROM THOSE TO HELP THEM MAINTAIN THEIR OWN PROPERTIES.

SO THAT IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING TODAY . I WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU WITH SOME MORE SPECIFIC ARCHITECTURALLY DESIGNED PLANS . THIS WILL BE PART OF A PROCESS WE WILL BE GOING THROUGH. AND THIS IS TO HELP PEOPLE WHO HAVE SMALL LOTS TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE ABSOLUTE EXPENSE OF HAVING ALL THE DESIGN DONE SPECIFICALLY FOR THEIR LOTS . TO HAVE A CATALOG OF READY APPROVED DESIGNS , SPECIFICALLY FOR CERTAIN LOT SIZES. AND WE HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN TO THE FLORIDA CHAPTER OF THE ASSOCIATION OF AMERICAN ARCHITECTS. SO WE WANT TO MOVE AHEAD WITH ENCOURAGING THEM . WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT THE MECHANISM FOR DOING THIS TO GENERATE A CATALOG OF PREAPPROVED DESIGNS THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO PLANNING. THEY WOULD BE APPROVED BY CITY PLANNING BOARD AND CITY COMMISSION. AND THOSE WOULD BE PUT ON A CATALOG , WHICH WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE WANTING TO DEVELOP INFILL PROPERTIES.

AND THERE MAY BE A MINOR FEE THAT IS PAID OR GIVEN TO THE ARCHITECTS DIRECTLY RATHER THAN FROM THE CITY. SO IT WOULD NOT BE PAID FOR BY THE CITY. AND THEN MOVING ON FROM THE PREAPPROVAL BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT , I AM HOPING TO OBTAIN PREAPPROVAL FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND ALSO THE CITY ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT SO WE HAVE A PACKAGE THAT IS READY TO GO AND BE AVAILABLE FOR RESIDENTS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. SO THAT IS THE NEXT MOVEMENT . THIS IS THE FIRST PART OF THAT IN TERMS OF FOUNDATION TO ENABLE THAT TO HAPPEN. SO I'M HOPING THAT -- I'M RECOMMENDING THE CITY COMMISSION ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE AND SUBSEQUENTLY ADOPT THE

RESOLUTION. >> QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

>> THE CONCEPT OF HAVING THE OFF-THE-SHELF TYPE PLAN SCENARIO , I THINK , HAS A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF MERIT .

REASON BEING TO THE LAYPERSON , GETTING INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS IS OVERWHELMING . IF YOU ARE NOT IN THE BUSINESS, YOU ARE SIMPLY NOT GOING TO DO IT. YOU'RE GOING TO GO OUT TO LOOK FOR SOMETHING, ET CETERA. SO THE LAND FOR THE LOT OWNER IS NOT GOING TO TAKE THE INITIATIVE TO DO THAT. SO THIS AVOIDS THAT WITH A SET PRICE POINT TO SAY , YOUR PLANS ARE READY. LET'S -- ELECTRICAL PLUMBING. EVERYTHING IS IN A PACKAGE. YOU JUST WRITE A CHECK FOR THIS AND YOU GET THAT. I THINK ADDING THAT FEATURE TO THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ACCELERANT TO MAKING THIS HAPPEN FOR THE LOCAL PROPERTY LOT OWNER, WHO WOULD BE INTIMIDATED BY THIS PROCESS AND CAN BE POTENTIALLY OVERWHELMED BY THE COST. YOU ARE LOOKING JUST TO COME OUT AND DESIGN AND BUILD . FOR THE LAYPERSON, YOU DON'T REALIZE YOU'VE GOT $25,000 IN SOFT COSTS BEFORE YOU BAT AN EYELASH. HERE WE WILL HAVE A PRE-NEGOTIATED PRICE. HERE ARE YOUR PLANS. GET WITH YOUR GC. THEY STILL HAVE TO BRING POWER IN. BRING WATER IN. SEWER AND ALL THAT TO GET HOOKED UP TO. BUT THE GC WILL COORDINATE THAT. I THINK THAT IS AN ASPECT OF THIS THAT CANNOT BE OVERLOOKED. THAT IS OUTSTANDING WORK TO FOLD THAT INTO THIS PROCESS. I'M VERY

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EXCITED TO SEE WHAT THE END RESULT OF THAT IS GOING TO BE ONCE YOU GET IT ALL PACKAGED UP.

>> MR. GAINES. >> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

DIRECTOR, YOU TALK ABOUT THIS EVERY TIME WE SEE EACH OTHER. I LOVE THE IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE HOUSING.

COMMISSIONER BRODERICK TOOK US UNDER WHEN HE SAID THE PRE-PACKAGING. I LOVE THAT. I WOULD SUGGEST BASED ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID THAT WE ALSO TALKED TO THE WATER, GAS , AND EVERYBODY. SO WHEN THEY COME IN , IT IS A ONE-STOP SHOP . LET THEM KNOW THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. NO GAS. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. GIVE THEM OPTIONS. LET'S DO IT.

HERE IT IS AND LET'S GET IT DONE. LOVE THE PICTURES. CAN'T WAIT TO SEE SOME OF THE OTHER ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS. AS I TOLD YOU LAST WEEK, ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE READY TO GO ON THIS. AND I FORWARDED THEM TO YOUR OFFICE. BUT ONE THING I WOULD JUST ASK IS THAT WHEN WE GET IN OUR DESIGNS READY AND YOU ARE GETTING THIS CATALOG READY, LET'S GO OUT . YOU MIGHT HAVE ALREADY DONE THIS, BUT LET'S GO OUT ON SOME SATURDAYS OR WHATEVER AND LET'S CANVAS SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS, ESPECIALLY IN LINCOLN PARK AREA. SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS. GET SOME IDEAS FROM THE NEIGHBORS BEFORE HAND BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS TO PUT A CATALOG OUT . AND WE LOVE IT . WE LOVE IT . AND THE NEIGHBORS ARE LIKE, I DON'T WANT THAT NEXT TO -- YOU KNOW. AND IT COULD BE SIMPLE AS , FLIP IT THIS WAY. OR MAKE IT. SO JUST GO OUT IN SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND JUST ASKED SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS. WHAT ARE THEIR THOUGHTS? GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY FIRST BECAUSE FOR THIS TO GO, WE NEED THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE ALREADY THERE TO GET ON BOARD. I AM GOING TO BE PREACHING THIS MYSELF BECAUSE I'M GOING TO GET THEM ON BOARD BECAUSE IF YOU DID NOT HEAR COMMISSIONERS JOHNSON SWEARING IN SPEECH, THIS IS THE TYPE OF THING WE'VE GOT TO GET FORT PIERCE MOVING AND EVEN COMMISSIONER WHEN HE SAID, I WASN'T HERE WHEN YOU SAID YOU ARE TIRED OF HEARING FULL OF POTENTIAL. YOU WANT TO SEE POTENTIAL. YOU WANT TO SEE POTENTIAL. THESE ARE THE TYPES OF IDEAS THAT WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO DO. AND STARTING WITH THE LINCOLN PARK AREA . WE ALWAYS HEAR ABOUT THE LINCOLN PARK AREA AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THE LINCOLN PARK AREA.

BUT TO START WITH THE LINCOLN PARK AREA AND HAVE A FOCUS ON FILLING SOME OF THESE LOTS . AND WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING BY, YOU ARE NOT SEEING EMPTY LOTS, BUT YOU ARE SEEING SOME OF THESE HOUSES WITH SOME TYPE OF DESIGN AND FLAIR OF THE LINCOLN PARK AREA. YOU CAN GO CALL HER. DON'T CALL HER OUT. YOU KNOW.

JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU. IT IS TWO PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE RIGHT NOW THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TOO FAR. HOLD ON. ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR. FOUR PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TOO FAR TO GET SOME IDEAS. I KNOW IT IS FUNNY, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IDEAS. TO GET SOME IDEAS AND FLAIR. I WILL JUST THROW THIS OUT THERE AND THEN I WILL BE QUIET, MADAM.

THROW THIS OUT THERE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARCHITECTURE DESIGNS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FLAIR OF LINCOLN PARK.

WOULDN'T IT GREAT IF WE COULD TIE THIS IN WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE HIGHWAYMAN? THE HIGHWAYMEN MUSEUM. AND OF THE FLAIR. WHATEVER WITH THE HIGHWAY. MAGAZINE. OKAY. LET ME SEE. I JUST WANT TO GET TO THE HIGHWAYMEN PART. LET ME SEE ONE OF THESE HIGHWAYMAN HOUSES AND GO LIKE THAT. SO I'M JUST THROWING IDEAS OUT THERE WHERE YOU GET IT AND PEOPLE WANT TO COME. YOU GIVE THAT I.D. BACK TO THE LINCOLN PARK -- TO THE LINCOLN PARK COMMUNITY AND IT GOES FROM THERE. SO , GREAT

JOB. >> NEIGHBORHOOD IDENTITY.

>> EXACTLY. YEAH. >> COMMISSIONERS , COMMISSIONER

JOHNSON, COMMISSIONER TAYLOR? >> THANK YOU FOR INCORPORATING OUR LAST CONVERSATION. THIS WAS PULLED AND NOW WE ARE BACK AND

WE ARE MOVING FORWARD . >> I JUST HAD A QUESTION AND YOU MIGHT HAVE COVERED IT ALREADY. I CONCUR WITH COMMISSIONER GAINES ' IDEA WITH WORKING WITH THE

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NEIGHBORHOODS. HAS THERE BEEN ANY REACTION -- INTERACTION WITH THE BUILDING ASSOCIATION?

>> THAT IS A GOOD IDEA. ONCE I THINK THIS FOUNDATION HAS BEEN SET AS WE MOVE ACROSS THE WHOLE PROGRAM WITH THE COMMUNITY -- AND THERE WILL BE VARIOUS DIFFERENT COMMUNITY CENTERS WE NEED TO TALK TO BECAUSE THERE IS MORE THAN ONE COMMUNITY IDENTITY THAT WE WOULD NEED TO ESTABLISH HERE. OR ANY HELP THAT WE CAN GET IN FIGURING OUT CONSTRUCTION COSTS. THE EXPENSE. THE CATALOG OF DESIGNS. IF THEY ARE ALL TOO EXPENSIVE NO MATTER WHAT BUREAUCRACY YOU CUT OUT OF THE SYSTEM IN TERMS OF HELPING IT GET FORWARD, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THE SAVINGS THAT YOU MAKE ON THE DESIGN PART BEING EXPENDED IN TERMS OF CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS AND LABOR , WHICH IS WHY WE ARE ALSO ENCOURAGING MODULAR TYPE DESIGNS TO CUT DOWN ON COSTS. BUT SOME OF THOSE OFF-THE-SHELF DESIGNS LIKE THE ONES THAT YOU SEE HERE -- WE WANT THEM TO BE ENCOURAGED SO PEOPLE CAN GO OUT TO A FACTORY AND GET ONE OF THESE, ORDER ONE AND BRING IT IN. WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT ON OUR DESKS . IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, I THINK WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE SHOULD NOT BE SEEING THESE THINGS COMING THROUGH ON OUR DESK FOR APPROVAL IF THEY ARE DONE IN SUCH A WAY THAT THEY ARE PREAPPROVED. LET'S CONCENTRATE ON BIGGER PROJECTS. I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS NOT A BIG PROJECT , BUT LET'S GET THE COMPLICATED PROJECTS THE ATTENTION THEY NEED AND HAVE SOMETHING OFF THE SHELF THAT PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO CALL AND FIGURE OUT AND GET AN APPOINTMENT OR DO A DESIGN AND GET AN ARCHITECT. ALL THOSE THINGS. IT IS LIKE FILLING A TAX FORM . IT IS A SCARY PROCESS. IT IS A LONG PROCESS. THERE ARE EXPENSES IN THERE THAT YOU ARE NOT FULLY APPRAISED OF WHEN YOU START THIS IDEA. WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE THAT SIMPLE AND EASY AS POSSIBLE. I THINK GETTING ALL OF THE F POA ENGINEERING AND BUILDING REGULATIONS AND STANDARDS SET AS FAR AS WE CAN IN A STANDARDIZED PRODUCT THAT GIVES PEOPLE THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THEIR INVESTMENT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO GO SOMEWHERE AND NOT LANGUISH IN A SYSTEM FOR THREE OR FOUR MONTHS TRYING TO FIGURE

IT OUT. >> I THINK THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION WOULD BE A GREAT RESOURCE AS FAR AS DEVELOPING THAT. THEY HAVE PROBABLY DONE A LOT OF THAT RESEARCH ALREADY.

WORK WITH THEM CLOSELY. >> STAFF WILL REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND VARIOUS ENTITIES. WE WILL BE PRESENTING WHAT WE FIND BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD TO THE CITY COMMISSION, SO YOU WILL HAVE A HANDS-ON PART TO PLAY IN ALL OF THIS. THANK YOU.

>> THE BOTTOM LINE IS YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT EASY FOR PEOPLE AND LESS EXPENSIVE FOR PEOPLE. SO THIS IS ONE GREAT INNOVATION TO DO THAT . I'M KIND OF SURPRISED WE HAVE NOT THOUGHT OF IT BEFORE, BUT I GUESS WE NEED TO DO, MR.

FREEMAN. >> I HAVE HAD THIS IDEA FOR A LONG TIME AND IT IS GREAT TO BE IN A PLACE THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY

DO SOMETHING POSITIVE. >> IT IS ONE THING TO TALK CUSTOMER FRIENDLY, IT IS ANOTHER THING TO PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO IT AND MAKE THAT HAPPEN. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. PLEASE COME FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, SIR. WELCOME.

>> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS DARRELL EPPS. I RESIDE AT 1511

NORTH 24TH STREET. >> AND WE WILL GIVE YOU A 10 SECOND WARNING. 10 SECOND WARNING. OKAY.

>> WHEN I LISTEN TO THE PRESENTATION ONLINE, THE QUESTION WAS EXCLUSION ON THE NORTH SIDE. IT SORT OF BOTHERED ME WITH THINGS THAT ARE ON THE NORTH END OF ORANGE AVENUE .

THE WAY I LOOK AT FORT PIERCE -- FORT PIERCE ARCHITECT.

>> ADDRESS US. THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

>> IT IS ECLECTIC. GOT A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS LIKE MIAMI, TAMPA . BRICK HOMES LIKE UP IN TALLAHASSEE . THINGS THAT ARE SIMILAR TO THE HOMES OR ARCHITECT IN NEW YORK WHERE PEOPLE COME OUT. AND I WAS WONDERING WHEN YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE 10 ARCHITECTS AND NOT BEING MENTIONED WITH YOUR

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INITIAL PRESENTATION , IT MADE ME WONDER, IF YOU ARE CHOOSING

10 -- >> ADDRESS US.

>> I'M SORRY. THIS IS MY FIRST. I'M SORRY.

>> THAT'S ALL RIGHT. >> IF YOU ARE CHOOSING 10, I WANT TO KNOW WHO YOU ARE CHOOSING. WHAT ARCHITECT ? A PERSON CALLED KENNETH DRUMMOND BUILT TO THAT HOME. AND IF YOU HAVE THESE COOKIE CUTTERS OR THIS PARTICULAR 10 TYPES OF BUILDING -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL THEM. BUT IF IT DOESN'T LEAVE FOR A PERSON TO SAY, I WANT IT LIKE THIS , OR HOW MUCH OF THIS WILL WE HAVE? YOU MENTION HIGHWAYS. SOMETHING UNIQUE. BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT FORCE -- FORT PIERCE IS ABOUT.

IT IS UNIQUE. WE'VE GOT THE BEST OF A LOT. AND SO MY INTEREST IS NOT PUTTING US -- YOU SAID YOU DID NOT WANT A COOKIE CUTTER . BUT WHEN YOU HAVE ONLY 10 OPTIONS HERE , THEN WHAT PREVENTS IT FROM BEING COOKIE-CUTTER? SO THAT

WAS MY ASSESSMENT. >> THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? ANYONE ELSE?

MISS MARJORIE. >> MARJORIE HARRELL. 1529 AVENUE D . I JUST WANT TO SAY TO HIM WHEN I CAME TO A MEETING ABOUT ALMOST A YEAR NOW -- THE MEETING THAT YOU HAVE AFTER THE MEETING LIKE THIS , NEXT WEEK YOU WILL HAVE ON MONDAY A MEETING . I CAME AND I WAS LATE , BUT I CAME IN AND I HEARD THEM TALKING. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING WITH IT. I KEPT WONDERING, WHERE IS IT? WHERE IS IT? AND YOU GOT IT. YEAH. YOU GOT IT. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT. BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT ON 13TH STREET WEST -- NORTH OR SOUTH.

SOUTH 13TH STREET. AVENUE D. YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE BLUE SIGNS UP THAT SAY MAIN STREET . THAT WAS NOT LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET. LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF AVENUE D. FROM SEVENTH STREET BACK TO 17TH STREET . AND WE NEED TO GET THAT STRAIGHTENED OUT BECAUSE WHEN I RIDE DOWN 13TH STREET AND I SEE THOSE SIGNS , IT IRKS ME TO KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TAKEN OUR NAME AND GIVEN IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE THAT BUILT SOME HOUSES THERE . WE COULDN'T EVEN GO OVER THERE AT THAT TIME. SO THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF FROM THEIR BANK ON BACK. IT IS NOT LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET. LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET GOES FURTHER NORTH . THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NO MOVEMENT, WE WILL COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION. MR. FREEMAN,

WOULD YOU LIKE TO ? >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE ARE PROPOSING A SET OF STYLES IN THIS DOCUMENT, BUT WHAT WE ARE ALSO PROPOSING IS WHEN WE HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY -- WHEN WE HEAR FROM PEOPLE -- THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY LIVE HERE AND HAVE EXPERIENCED THE HISTORY OF FORT PIERCE, WE ARE WANTING TO ENCOURAGE ALTERNATIVE STYLES . AND THIS DOES NOT MANDATE THE STYLES THAT WE HAVE HERE. IT RECOMMENDS THEM. ASPECTS OF STYLES LIKE PORCHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT REALLY SHOULD BE INCORPORATED IF WE WANT TO HAVE A COMMUNITY STREET. BUT IF SOMETHING DIFFERENT IS PROPOSED THAT IS NOT IN HERE, WE WANT TO SEE THAT. WE WANT TO HEAR IT AND WE WANT TO INCORPORATE IT. IF IT IS HISTORICAL. IF IT IS A DESIGN THAT HAS BEEN LOST . THROUGH LACK OF MAINTENANCE OR WHATEVER. AND IT WAS A HISTORICAL PIECE OF FORT PIERCE. THEN THAT STYLE SHOULD BE INCORPORATED . WE ALSO SAYING THAT FORT PIERCE IS NOT A MUSEUM . MATERIALS CHANGE.

CONSTRUCTION CHANGES. REQUIREMENTS OF CONSTRUCTION CHANGE IN TERMS OF RESILIENCY AND SUSTAINABILITY AND ALL THAT STUFF WITH WATER . AND STORMWATER. THERE MAY BE

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DIFFERENT WAYS OF DOING THINGS IN THE FUTURE. AND FORT PIERCE IS A FLUID -- IT WAS ALREADY AN ECLECTIC TOWN . WHY SHOULDN'T WE MAINTAIN THAT ? AND THAT WAS PART OF THE FORT PIERCE IDENTITY . JUST HAVING THAT ONCE IN A WHILE LITTLE BIT OF SHOCK WHEN YOU ACTUALLY REALIZE THAT A DIFFERENT TYPE OF BUILDING IS ON THE STREET THAN WHAT YOU ARE EXPECTING. YOU SEE

THESE THINGS ALL OVER . >> TO CLARIFY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO CLARIFY THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT YOU ARE NOT ADVOCATING COOKIE-CUTTER. YOU ARE ADVOCATING ACTUALLY INNOVATION. THE 10 STYLES ARE NOT THE LIMITATION. INNOVATION IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO KEEP THE CHARACTER OF FORT PIERCE , WHICH IS FLORIDA. BUT IT IS ALSO ISLAND. IT IS ALSO A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS . TO CLARIFY. SO. MISS MARJORIE, WE HAVE ALREADY CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT YOU CAN SPEAK LATER. YOU CAN SPEAK LATER.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONERS ? OR

IS THERE A MOTION? >> MADAM MAYOR, I MOVE THAT WE

APPROVE ORDINANCE 24-040. >> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

>> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. ROLL >>

>> FOR THE RECORD , I'M SORRY. FOR THE RECORD, IT IS ORDINANCE

24-043. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> ACTUALLY, THAT IS NOT IT. IT WAS 24 -- R57 .

>> WE'RE NOT THERE YET. >> ALL RIGHT. I AM MIXED UP.

>> IT IS EASY TO GET MIXED UP BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SUM OF THE

SAME SUBJECT. EXACTLY. >> TO CLEAR THE RECORD UP, MY MOTION IS TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 24-043.

>> DO YOU WANT US TO TAKE THIS BOAT OVER?

>> IF WE CAN CLEAN THAT UP, PLEASE.

>> YOU MADE THE MOTION. SECOND. WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL AGAIN,

PLEASE ? >>

[a. Resolution 24-R57 Adoption of the Fort Pierce Architectural Design Standards]

NUMBER 24- R57, RESOLUTION ADOPTING ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. REPLACING ALL RESOLUTION CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE

DATE. >> DO YOU WANT TO JUST --

>> THIS RESOLUTION ADOPTS THE ACTUAL DESIGN STANDARDS, WHICH WE WERE JUST SPEAKING ABOUT. I CAN GO THROUGH AGAIN IF YOU SO WISH. BUT IN ESSENCE, THE TEXT AMENDMENT OF THE CODE REFERS TO THIS BY REFERENCE AND INCORPORATES THESE DESIGN

STANDARDS BY REFERENCE . >> THIS IS THE SECOND STEP.

>> THIS IS THE SECOND STEP RED YES. THIS ACTUALLY FORMALIZES THE STANDARDS AS PART OF THE CITY CODE REVIEW.

>> ARE THE QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

>> GO AHEAD. >> ON THE DESIGN STANDARDS , ARE YOU KEEPING LATITUDE TO MAKE CHANGES TO THOSE STANDARDS AT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT LEVEL?

>> THEY WILL ALWAYS NEED TO BE FINALLY RESOLVED BY THE CITY

COMMISSION. >> YOU HAVE 10 IN ONE CATEGORY.

YOU WANT TO SWAP OUT THREE OR FOUR AND BRING THEM IN FRONT OF

US. >> AWAY WE ARE PUTTING THIS TOGETHER IS ALSO TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF BUREAUCRACY IT WOULD TAKE TO CHANGE WHAT WE HAVE OR TO INCORPORATE BETTER OR TAKE OUT THINGS THAT ARE NOT WORKING. SO THIS BEING DONE BY RESOLUTION AND ADOPTING THE STANDARDS BY REFERENCE -- THE STANDARDS BY REFERENCE IS A BOOKLET THAT PEOPLE CAN REFER TO. IT, ADOPTS IT BY REFERENCE. THE STANDARDS WITHIN THAT ARE PART OF THE ZONING CODE . IF THAT CHANGES, THEN THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT BACK THROUGH -- I PRESUME IT WOULD BE BROUGHT BACK THROUGH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THROUGH THE PLANNING BOARD . POTENTIALLY IN CERTAIN CASES TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD AND THEN TO THE CITY COMMISSION. SO WHEN WE DEVELOP THE STYLES, FOR EXAMPLE, AS ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS OR WHATEVER, THOSE WILL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO BE ADOPTED. AND THEN ADOPTED RESOLUTION INTO THE DESIGN STANDARDS. SO IT WILL ALWAYS BE A COMPLETE PACKAGE . AND THE FINAL REVIEW OF THAT WILL ALWAYS BE THE CITY COMMISSION.

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>> EXCELLENT. OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING , COMMISSIONER BRODERICK.

WHATEVER WE ARE DOING, IF SOMETHING CHANGES, IT ALWAYS COMES BACK TO US. THE FINAL SAY SO.

>> OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION? >> I MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> MOTION AND SECOND. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

[b. Resolution 24-R60 Appointing Clayton Colby Johnson to the City of Fort Pierce Planning Board as Mayor Hudson's appointee.]

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> KEVIN, YOU ARE OFF AND

RUNNING. GREAT PROGRAM. >> NEXT ITEM IS RESOLUTION 24- R 60. CERTIFYING APPOINTMENT OF A MEMBER TO THE CITY CLEANING BOARD PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?

>> I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE. >> MOTION AND SECOND. CALL THE

[14. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

ROLL, PLEASE. >>

>> NEXT ITEM HIS COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

>> IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE COME FORWARD. YOU HAVE THREE

MINUTES. >> I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO GO

PAST. YEAH, GOOD EVENING. >> 1124 STREET. I UNDERSTAND LEADERSHIP. YOU GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS AND A LITTLE THANKS.

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

YOU MADE MY MOTHER SMILE . AND SHE DOESN'T SMILE BECAUSE WHEN WE HEAR THE NOISE, WE DON'T KNOW HOW LONG. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR , FOR LISTENING TO ME. I BELIEVE LEADERSHIP ENCOMPASSES THREE THINGS. COURAGE , BRAINS , AND HEART .

YOU MAY HAVE KNOWN THAT ABOUT THE WIZARD OF OZ . COMBINATION OF THOSE THREE EQUALS A WISE MAN OR WOMAN. I WOULD THINK THAT YOU ALL HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF HAVING THAT. YOU HAVE DONE WELL . AND I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO JUST PAY CLOSER ATTENTION TO THE 14TH, 1500, AND 1600 BLOCKS OF 24TH STREET. ONE BLOCK FROM 25TH STREET AND AVENUE N. WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A QUALITY OF

[15. COMMENTS FROM THE CITY MANAGER]

LIFE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE COME FORWARD. ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NO MOVEMENT, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

>> COMMENTS FROM THE CITY MANAGER.

>> YES, MA'AM. SO WE JUST RECEIVED OUR FINAL DRAFT OF OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES BASED ON ALL OF YOUR INPUT THAT WE RECEIVED. I WILL SHARE THAT WITH YOU FIRST THING IN THE MORNING. WE ARE GOING TO SUBMIT THAT TO THE LEGISLATURE. AND WE WILL BE THERE TO PRESENT THAT TO THEM ON DECEMBER 16TH AT THE IRS SEE STIM BUILDIN IN ST. LUCIE WEST. I PLACED THAT ON EVERYBODY'S CALENDARS IN CASE YOU WANT TO BE THERE. BUT WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON WHO WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE PRESENTING THOSE. I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ON AN AIRPLANE SO I WON'T BE ABLE TO BE THERE FOR THAT. WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW -- REMIND YOU ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY CLEANUP THIS SATURDAY . IF YOU