Dec 09, 2024 City Commission Regular Meeting

[1. Call to Order]

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[4. Approval of Minutes]

>> MOTION AND A SECOND, CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

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[6. Additions or deletions to agenda and approval of the agenda.]

>> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A DISCUSSION ITEM PLEASE. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK WITH THE COMMISSION AND YOUR SELF ABOUT HOW WE'RE DOING PROGRESS FOR CITY MANAGER. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME THINGS ON MY MIND I CANNOT TALK INDIVIDUALLY ABOUT AND I WANT TO SEE WHERE WE ARE FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE AND WHAT WE ARE THINKING, TIMELINE, MAYBE HEAR FROM HR ON THE PROCESS AND I THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS ITSELF TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ALIGNED WITH HOW THIS IS GOING TO GO.

>> WOULD YOU LIKE THAT TO BE D? ANY OBJECTIONS OR IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CHANGE THE AGENDA WITH THAT ADDED?

>> I MOVE ON AGENDA WITH ADDITIONAL ITEM TO DISCUSS

HIRING CITY MANAGER 11 D. >> SECOND.

>> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >>

[7. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>> NEXT COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO ADDRESS COMMISSION PLEASE COME FORWARD. WITH NO MOVEMENT WE WILL COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR THE NEXT

[a. Review and discussion regarding Mayor and City Commission assignments to various Boards and Committees]

>> NEXT ITEM REVIEW AND DISCUSSION REGARDING MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSION ASSIGNMENTS TO VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMITTEES.

>> YOU HAVE A CHARGE -- CHART BEFORE YOU. I AM SATISFIED WITH MY COMMITTEES SO IF THERE IS ANY OTHER COMMISSION WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK UP AND SAY THEY ARE SATISFIED OR THEY WANT TO SWAP LET'S TALK ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW.

>> I DO HAVE A QUESTION. >> YES SIR.

>> BASED ON THE EVER-CHANGING STATUS OF THE SUNRISE THEATER ASSUMING IT WILL BE PAID FOR OUTSIDE OPERATION ET CETERA IS THE SUNRISE THEATER ADVISORY BOARD GOING TO REMAIN VIABLE?

>> I DON'T ANTICIPATE THE ADVISORY BOARD REMAINING, THE FAMILY THE FOUNDATION BOARD SEPARATE AND APART FROM THE CITY BUT WHEN WE TRANSFER OPERATIONS OVER I THINK THE FOCUS OF THAT ADVISORY BOARD IS TO WORK WITH STAFF TO ADDRESS

PROGRAMMING ITEMS. >> CLEARLY THAT IS NOT, IT MAY HAVE BEEN THE MISSION STATEMENT BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT IS DOING, THE MAJORITY OF THE MEETINGS ARE NOT HELD DUE TO A LACK OF QUORUM AND SO, I CONSIDER TO BE A NONFUNCTIONING BOARD.

>> THAT IS ENTIRELY UP TO YOU GUYS IF YOU WANT TO DISSOLVE THE BOARD NOW THAT'S UP TO YOU.

>> WHAT'S THE STATUS ON THE RFP SCENARIO FOR THAT? THE TIMING IS THE UNIQUE THING AS TO WHEN WE WOULD MAKE THAT

EFFECTIVE. WHAT'S THE LATEST? >> WE ARE VERY CLOSE, I SUSPECT OUT BY THE FIRST OF THE YEAR IF NOT. THERE WOULD BE A PERIOD.

IT IS PROBABLY SAFE TO SAY WE WILL HAVE THIS WRAPPED UP BEFORE THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. I DO NOT ANTICIPATE IT TAKING THAT LONG BUT WE HAVE BUDGETED FOR THE FISCAL YEAR AND WE WILL MAKE SURE WE COMPLETE, PRIOR TO THAT.

>> WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO WITH THE BOARD KEEPING IT INTACT UNTIL THAT POINT AND TIME I'M NOT REALLY SURE IF THERE IS ANY FUNCTION THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY BECAUSE CANDIDLY IT'S MORE STAFF GIVES A REPORT OCCASIONALLY AS TO WHAT'S GOING ON AND THAT IS ABOUT IT, THE BOARD DOES NOT.

>> YOU ARE THE ONE WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO TELL US THAT, WHEN THEY

DO HAVE MEETINGS. >> THERE IS A MEETING TOMORROW , SO LET'S SEE IF THE MEETING TAKES PLACE.

>> I WOULD CONCUR WITH YOUR ANALYSIS. SITTING ON THAT BOARD PREVIOUSLY. DO WE KNOW YET IF WE'RE GOING TO BE THE THIRD PARTY PROVIDING ANY REPORTS THAT THE ADVISORY BOARD COULD

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>> WE DON'T KNOW YET. THE FOUNDATION DESPERATELY WANTS TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE NEW OPERATOR AND THERE WILL BE TERMS WITHIN THE CONTRACT WHERE THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE UPDATES.

WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN INFLUENCE. WE CAN ASK.

>> WE CAN ASK FOR IT. >> I SUGGEST WE LEAVE INTACT NOW UNTIL WE ARE FURTHER IN THE PROCESS AND WE CAN REPORT BACK

TO WHAT OBSERVATIONS ARE. >> I HAVE NOT OFFICIALLY

RESIGNED. I ASSUME I NEED TO. >> ONLY OTHER REQUEST I HAD, I'M FINE WITH OTHER COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS. I DID HAVE A STRONG INTEREST STEPPING INTO THE TPO POSITION. THAT JEREMIAH HAS WHICH IS NOW ON JAMES LIST. THAT IS JUST ONE ORGANIZATION THAT I THOUGHT I COULD LEND A STRONG VOICE TO.

>> HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT COMMISSIONER TAYLOR?

>> HONESTLY I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING ON THAT BOARD, BUT I RESPECT YOUR SENIORITY ON THAT, IF THAT SOMETHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF I AM PERFECTLY FINE WITH THAT. THERE COULD BE THE ALTERNATE SITUATION.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. >> YOU COULD BE THE ALTERNATE AND I THINK I AM SO THAT WOULD MAKE ME NO LONGER AND THAT'S

FINE WITH ME. GENTLEMEN? >> I AM FINE WITH MY ASSIGNMENTS HERE. UNLESS THERE IS ONE OR A COUPLE BOARDS I AM THE CHAIR OF NOW SO I WILL SERVE OUT THOSE TERMS. ATLANTIC POSITION WE DON'T MEET MUCH BUT IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WITH THE CHANGE IN THE COUNTY MOVING FORWARD ON THAT ACQUISITION SELECTION COMMITTEE. YEAH, I'M FINE WITH

EVERYTHING ELSE. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES.

>> THANK YOU MEDA MAYOR. THIS SECTION IS STEADILY INCREASING.

>> YOU KEEP RAISING YOUR HAND. >> I WILL KEEP MY HAND DOWN. I NEED HELP WITH ONE BOARD AND FROM WHAT I AM HEARING, THEY REALLY NEED SOMEBODY FROM , SOMEBODY FROM FORT PIERCE, THEY WANT A COMMISSION AND IT'S HARD. I SWITCHED WITH COMMISSIONER JOHNSON BUT I'M MISSING TOO MANY MEETINGS BECAUSE I AM EITHER ON THE ROAD OR AT A CONFERENCE SOMEWHERE WITH THE ROUNDTABLE. WE HAVE BEN SENDING SOME REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CITY. I THINK MISS AUDREY A WELLS HAS BEEN GOING BUT THEY WON'T LET HER VOTE WHEN IT'S TIME FOR A VOTE BECAUSE THEY PUT IN IT HAS TO BE A COMMISSIONER. SO A LOT OF THEM ARE KIND OF UPSET BECAUSE A LOT OF STUFF THEY WANT TO DO IN FORT PIERCE, YOU KNOW SAYING WE ARE NOT THERE TO VOTE EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE BEEN TO THE MEETINGS , SHE HAS FILLED IN THE MEETINGS. SO IF ANYBODY CAN SWAP OUT THE ROUNDTABLE WITH ME I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT, IT'S JUST HARD FOR ME TO MAKE IT.

>> I THINK THEY MEET ON THE FIRST FRIDAY OF EVERY MONTH AT 8:00, ST. LUCIE WEST.

>> I SERVED ON THAT BOARD BEFORE AND, THERE IS, YES THERE IS A LOT TO BE LEARNED. IT IS DEVOTED TO CHILDREN AND IT IS DEVOTED TO A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE , THAT DEAL WITH CHILDREN, BUT WHEN YOU DEAL WITH CHILDREN YOU END UP DEALING WITH FAMILIES. AND, SO, THERE'S A LOT TO BE LEARNED.

AND, SO, COMMISSIONER TAYLOR ARE YOU INTERESTED?

>> I WAS WAITING FOR YOU TO ASK. I THINK IT HAS BEEN THROUGH SEVERAL COMMISSIONERS ON THIS BOARD. I AM HAPPY TO

TRY IT OUT. YES, I CAN DO THAT. >> IS IT SOMETHING ON YOUR LIST? I'M NOT TRYING TO ADD ANYTHING TO YOUR LIST. IS THERE SOMETHING ON YOUR LIST YOU WANT TO SWAP AND YOU WANT TO SWAP AND WE JUST SWITCH IT UP? I DON'T MIND DOING THAT .

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>> MAY BE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE OR THE BOARD OF

DIRECTORS. >> OKAY WE CAN SWITCH.

>> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK IF THERE'S ANYTHING ON YOURS YOU

WOULD LIKE ME TO TRY. >> I AM PRETTY GOOD WITH THAT.

>> THE MAIN ONE, SINCE WE ARE TALKING IS THE ONE I WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF EVENTUALLY AND IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE THIS CYCLE BUT TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL I THINK WITH MY PLANNING BACKGROUND I THINK I COULD OFFER SOME PERSPECTIVE

ON THAT. >> WE CAN SWITCH.

>> IF YOU WANT IT. WE MEET IN STUART. IT IS A GREAT COUNCIL.

>> LEARNED A LOT AND WE HAVE JOINT MEETINGS WITH SOUTH FLORIDA GROUP. SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO TRADE , I

AM NOT AWARE TO IT. >> I'M KIND OF ON MAIN STREET,

I WAS ON PREVIOUSLY. >> I'M DOING LINKIN PARK AND I

THINK YEAH. >> I'M HAPPY WITH IT MOST YOU'RE INTERESTED IN DBA BUT THAT'S DISTRICT 2.

>> DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE. >> I'M HAPPY WITH JUST TAKING IT UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ON MY LIST YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED

IN. >> DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE MAY BE SWITCH OFF. THAT WILL GIVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. I HAVE A LITTLE INTEREST IN THAT.

>> ONE FORT PIERCE. >> ACTUALLY I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID IT IS IN DISTRICT 2 DISTRICT 1 COMMISSIONER TO SIT AND LISTEN AND IT GOES INTO THE WHOLE ONE

FORT PIERCE. >> YOU ON THE CHAMBER OF

COMMERCE COULD BE GREAT. >> OKAY THAT'S GREAT TO TAKE TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL. AND THEN I WILL GO TO DOWNTOWN BUSINESS.

>> THAT'S THE SECTION. OKAY. YEAH. WE WILL MAKE IT WORK.

>> YOU ARE VERY ACTIVE. THEY WILL PUT YOU TO WORK. THAT'S

WHAT I HAVE HEARD. >> YES I'M SURE.

>> I GET THE EMAILS SO I'M KIND OF AWARE AND I WANT TO GO BUT I KNOW WHEN COMMISSIONER JOHNSON WAS GOING THERE WOULD

BE A CONFLICT. >> REAL QUICK DON'T GET OUT TO THE COMMISSION AND EVERYBODY. I AM , I AM ON THE HOMELESSNESS AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING , THE COUNTY HOMELESS AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR FORT PIERCE SO IT'S KIND OF THE SAME THING.

SO I DON'T WANT TO GIVE IT UP BUT IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT'S GOING ON OTHER THAN MYSELF OR MY COUNTY AND THEN THE CITY NOW IS THE TIME TO SWAP OUT, IF NOT I WILL FIND AND DO IT. I WANT TO GIVE SOMEBODY THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING FRESH EYES AND EARS TO EITHER ONE OF THE COMMITTEES.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT IS STATUTORY ISN'T IT? DOES IT HAVE A END

DATE OR IS IT PERMANENT? >> THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE COMING, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE COMING SOMETIME THIS MONTH TO GIVE A REPORT. GIVING THE REPORT LIKE I THINK IT IS THE SECOND NIGHT OR THE NEXT MONDAY. THE 16TH TO GIVE A REPORT SO WE CAN ASK AT THAT TIME. HOW LONG IT IS SUPPOSED

TO LAST. >> I THINK IT IS IN PERPETUITY.

>> IT IS A PERMANENT BOARD REQUIRED AS PART OF RECEIVING THE FEDERAL FUNDING. SO IT IS A PERMANENT BOARD. THERE IS UNDER THE STATUTE THE ABILITY FOR THE CITY TO COMBINE BOARD WITH COUNTY. I KNOW THERE HAS BEEN SOME ISSUES WITH THE QUORUM AND THINGS LIKE THAT SO THAT IS AN OPTION THAT EXISTS IF IT'S SOMETHING THE COMMISSION WANTED TO CONSIDER. IT IS A PRETTY EXPENSIVE BOARD AND THE STATUTE REQUIRES EIGHT 8 TO 11 MEMBERS

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>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. TO ME, IT IS KIND OF COUNTER PRODUCTIVE FOR THE CITY TO BE MEETING BECAUSE ANYTHING THEY ARE DEALING WITH, HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING, IT SHOULD BE A COUNTY AND CITY AND CITY OF PORT ST. LUCIE JOINT EFFORT. IT REALLY SHOULD BE. I'M JUST SAYING IF WE, THEY WILL COME IN, WE HAVE 11 CATEGORIES THAT WE CAN FOCUS ON, I THINK IT IS 11 . I CAN REMEMBER I THINK IT IS 11. WE PICKED ONE, THE FIRST TIME WE DID WE TRIED TO COME IN AND GIVE YOU WHAT WE WANT. YEAR TWO, WE PICKED ONE AND FOCUSED ON THAT TO TRY TO CHANGE AND DO SOMETHING SO THAT'S WHAT YOU WILL HEAR NEXT MONDAY NIGHT. MY THOUGHT WAS IF WE COME IN, AND WE PRESENT , THEY PRESENT AND WE AGREED TO IT AS IT HAS LITTLE TO NO EFFECT OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS BECAUSE OF THE COUNTY PICKED ANOTHER NUMBER AND THEY ARE DOING THAT. WE ARE NOT MATCHING. I'M THINKING IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE THIS YEAR BUT IN THE FUTURE IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK AT BECAUSE AS YOU SAY I WOULD LOVE SOMEBODY TO SAY ONE ST. LUCIE COUNTY BUT I WILL LEAVE THAT ALONE TODAY. I KNOW IT'S CHRISTMAS TIME AND I'M THINKING ABOUT GIFTS, BUT THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I GUESS AND I SAY THEY ARE PROBABLY WAITING ON US TO SEE WHAT WE ARE GOING TO PUT OUT TO TRY TO EXPAND AND IF WE ARE IN THE LEAD THAT'S FINE, BUT SITTING ON BOTH OF THOSE BOARDS, ESPECIALLY THAT BOARD AND WHAT MISS HEDGES SAID, IT'S KIND OF HARD BECAUSE THEY WANT LAWYERS AND BANKERS, THEY WANT REALTORS, THEY WANT CONSTRUCTION. THE LEGISLATURE MADE IT THAT WAY TO PUT IT ON THERE. FOR ME TO MEET WITH THE CITY AND THEY GO HERE IS SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT WITH HOMELESSNESS BECAUSE HOMELESSNESS AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING GO HAND IN HAND. I SEE THE RAILROAD TRACKS NOT MEETING UP SO THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT

UP. IF NOT I AM GOOD WITH IT. >> GOOD WE PUT IT ON THE JOINT MEETING AGENDA? WHAT DO YOU THINK? WE WILL BE MEETING FOR

TWO DAYS. >> WE NEED TO BOOK OUT A WEEK.

>> I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE, HOMELESSNESS AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS NOT JUST A FORT PIERCE PROBLEM.

>> THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS TOLD US THAT.

>> I HAVE TO REMIND EVERYBODY BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT BELIEVE FORT PIERCE IS OUTSIDE OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY AND WE ARE STILL PART OF THE COUNTY SO WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.

I'M JUST BEING HONEST. >> THEY PAY TAXES, THEY DON'T

SEE THOSE TAXES? >> SOMETIMES WHEN THEY SAY IT I DON'T ASK THE NEXT QUESTION. I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE NEXT ANSWER. SO I'M TRYING TO SAY AND WE CAN MOVE ON, IT'S LIKE SPINNING WHEELS TO ME AND I WANT TO SEE RESULTS. I KNOW THE FORT PIERCE, YOU WILL GET A PRESENTATION MONDAY NIGHT AND THEY WILL SHOW WHAT WE DID BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHAT ST.

LUCIE COUNTY IS ALSO DOING BECAUSE THE HOMELESS SITUATION HAS TAKEN A DIFFERENT PATH THAN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I WILL

REPORT ON THAT LATER. >> QUICK FOLLOW-UP QUESTION.

YOU ARE TRYING TO WEAVE TOGETHER THE HOMELESS ISSUE , HOMELESSNESS ISSUE AND AFFORDABLE AND WORKFORCE HOUSING. I SEE THOSE AS TWO DISPARATE ISSUES.

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>> UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK OUTSIDE THE POPULATION OF HOMELESSNESS THAT WANT TO BE HOMELESS AND LEFT ALONE, A LOT OF THE HOMELESS COMING IN ARE BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD $2100 A MONTH TO PAY FOR A STUDIO APARTMENT, ONE-BEDROOM WITH A WHOLE FAMILY. SO THEY ARE SLEEPING IN THEIR CARS, DOING WHATEVER. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNOW WE HAVE SOME PRINCIPLES FROM ST. LUCIE COUNTY SCHOOLS ALLOWING FAMILIES TO COME EARLY TO USE THE GYM TO TAKE SHOWERS SO THE KIDS CAN GO FILL FRESH AND GO TO SCHOOL. WITH THE BREAKFAST AND EVERYTHING. I UNDERSTAND YOU SEE IT DIFFERENT BUT I THINK WE CAN ACCOMPLISH SOME OF THE HOMELESSNESS WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY IF WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WORKFORCE HOUSING. JUST BECAUSE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT OUT BY WALMART, WHAT IS IT? BLUE SKY. IF YOU WANT TO SEE HOW BAD THE PROBLEM IS, I DON'T WANT MISS HEDGES TO GET ME IN TROUBLE, BUT , SEE IF YOU CAN GET THE WAITING LIST. THE WAITING LIST FOR THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX.

>> HOW LONG IS IT? >> SIX OR SEVEN PAGES. YOU ONLY

HAVE 200 OR HOW MANY UNITS? >> THE REASON I BRING UP THE TOPIC IS I HAVE A MEETING THIS AFTERNOON WITH ONE OF THE DEVELOPERS , ONE OF THE BIGGEST GUYS OUT THERE AND THEY REQUESTED A MEETING SO I WILL MEET WITH THEM. THEY HAVE A LAUNDRY LIST TO DISCUSS AND ONE OF THE THINGS WAS BUILDING UP 4 MILLION FEET OF SPACE WE NEED WORKERS AND HOUSING. I DON'T HAVE ANY ANSWER FOR THEM. THIS IS A BUSINESS WE WORK IN $2100 IS CHEAP CANDIDLY FOR WHAT'S AVAILABLE CURRENTLY. THE MARKET , THERE'S ZERO AVAILABILITY , PRICES ARE GOING THROUGH THE ROOF. RESALE OF APARTMENT BUILDINGS , THE MULTIPLES ARE STUPID , THE NUMBERS MAKE NO SENSE, NEW CONSTRUCTION WILL NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM BECAUSE IT COSTS CONSTRUCTION DRIVING RENTAL RATES SO HIGH UP TO $3000 A MONTH SO IT IS A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE WITHOUT A MARKETPLACE RESOLUTION.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU BUT I WOULDN'T SAY, UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM WITH THE WORKFORCE AND $2100 BUT I WOULD NOT CALL IT CHEAP JUST BECAUSE , WE GO FOR A RIDE , WE WON'T TALK POLITICS. WE JUST SHOW FORT PIERCE.

>> POLITICS NOT CITY BUSINESS. >> FOR THE RECORD.

>> WE WILL TALK YOUR REELECTION CAMPAIGN.

>> ALL RIGHT, BUT LIKE I SAID, IF YOU DRIVE AROUND IN A HATE TO KEEP GOING OUT LINCOLN PARK. DRIVE AROUND LINKIN PARK OR THE NORTH PART OF FORT PIERCE. YOU WILL SEE, YOU COULD FIND A ONE AND A HATE TO CALL IT A SHACK, A ONE BEDROOM SHACK WITH THE WINDOWS BARELY HOLDING THE AIR CONDITIONING UNIT. AND FAMILIES ARE IN THAT ONE SHACK. TRYING TO PAY $2100 A MONTH AND I AM LOOKING LIKE COME ON, WE HAVE TO DO BETTER. AND YOU KNOW WE CANNOT SOLVE ALL THE ISSUES OF THE CITY, WE TRY, BUT BEFORE, AND UNDERSTAND WITH THE WORKHOUSE. 4 MILLION SQUARE-FEET. GO GET THE LIST. EVEN THOUGH MS. COX SAID PHASE 2 IS COMING. IF YOU WANT TO SEE, WAIT UNTIL THE NEW PROJECT COMES THAT SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT ACROSS FROM , THAT LITTLE LOT.

USED TO GO SEE THE SIGN. OKEECHOBEE ROAD. JUST WAIT TO SEE THE LIST OF PEOPLE TRYING TO GET IN. SOMEWHERE THAT CAN BE AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND. MADAME MAYOR I WILL END ON THIS. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON AND I WERE TOGETHER THIS WEEK DOING ROAD CLEANUP. JUST ON ONE OF THE STREETS WE CLEANED UP, HE

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THAT YOU GUYS BUILT BEFORE I GOT HERE, JUST FINISHING UP.

THE OWNERS OR THE RESIDENCE, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WAS BROKE DOWN IF THEY BOUGHT OR RENTED. THEY ARE LITERALLY KEEPING IT UP. IT ALMOST LOOKS BRAND-NEW. THE YARD. WE DO NOT HAVE TO PICK UP ANY PAPER OVER THERE. SO WE CAN DO IT. TO ANSWER THE QUESTION WE CAN DO IT AND I KNOW DIRECTOR FREEMAN IS IN HERE. SO HIS IDEAS OF THESE LITTLE LOTS OR THESE HOUSES. IT CAN BE DONE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET ENOUGH WORKERS TO DO THAT WITH SQUARE-FEET, BUT WE ARE TRYING. SO THERE ARE IDEAS AND WE CAN DO IT. LONG STORY SHORT I WANT TO SEE SOME ACTION WITH OUR HOMELESS AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO I WOULD LOVE TO STAY ON, JUST WANT TO SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS SOME

FRESH IDEAS. >> THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO ADD, THAT'S IN MY POLICY COMMITTEE, THAT'S NOW OUR PRIORITY. IT IS QUITE A LONG STATEMENT ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THE LEGISLATURE WILL GET KNEE-DEEP IN THAT, TOO.

>> FOR CLARIFICATION WHEN WE TALK ABOUT COMBINING THE BOARDS, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE IS TIED SPECIFICALLY TO THE MONEY AND I'M NOT SURE THE HOMELESSNESS TASK FORCE YOU ARE ON WITH THE COUNTY IS THE SAME BOARD. THE COUNTY MAY HAVE ANOTHER BOARD BUT I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S THE SAME.

>> WE SHOULD FIND OUT. YEAH. >> TO QUALIFY IT AS MS. COX IS IN , IF THIS IS TIED INTO A FUNDING ORGANISM WHERE WE CAN GET TANGIBLE RESULTS FROM , I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING. SO LET'S FIND OUT. I THINK IT MAKES COMMON

SENSE FOR THAT DISCUSSION. >> OKAY ARE WE CLEAR , EVERYBODY CLEAR ON WHICH BOARDS THEY ARE ON?

>> QUICK SUMMARY TO MAKE SURE. COMMISSIONER BRODERICK WILL DO THE TPO AND COMMISSIONER TAYLOR WILL BE THE ALTERNATE? AND THEN I HAVE COMMISSIONER TAYLOR GOING ON THE ROUND TABLE.

COMMISSIONER GAINES TAKING ON THE CHAMBER. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON TAKING ON THE DBA AND TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL IS GOING TO COMMISSIONER TAYLOR.

>> EVERYBODY GOOD? OKAY. WE DON'T NEED A MOTION.

CONSENSUS. >> WE WILL UPDATE IT WITH YOUR CALENDARS ACCORDINGLY AND SEND NOTIFICATIONS AS REQUIRED.

[b. Update on Retirement Board Cost of Living Adjustments ]

>> OKAY UNLESS WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT WE WILL MOVE ON.

UPDATE RETIREMENT BOARD COST-OF-LIVING ADJUSTMENTS.

>> MS. COX. >> YES MA'AM. WE HAVE THE FINANCE DIRECTOR WITH US TODAY, WELL RESTED I'M SURE. SHE IS GOING TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON RETIREMENT BOARD COST-OF-LIVING ADJUSTMENT WHICH CAME AS A RESULT OF CONVERSATIONS THAT HAPPENED AT THE LAST RETIREMENT BOARD MEETING.

>> GOOD MORNING MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. AS YOU ARE AWARE WE HAVE HAD, OVER THE SPAN OF A FEW YEARS RETIREES COMING AND ASKING FOR COST-OF-LIVING ADJUSTMENTS. AND, AT OUR OCTOBER CONFERENCE, THERE WAS A LEGAL BOARD OF DISCUSSION AND IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION AND THE DISCUSSION WAS ON COLA . STATE STATUTE PROHIBITS THAT SO WE FURTHER DISCUSSED IT AT THE MEETING. OUTSIDE OF WHAT'S ALREADY IN THE CONTRACT. FLORID 215.425 WHICH OUTLINES THAT, IT IS PROHIBITED FOR US TO GIVE A COST-OF-LIVING OR ANY BENEFIT TO A RETIREE THAT'S OUTSIDE OF WHAT THEY WERE AGREED TO IN THEIR EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT. SO BECAUSE IT WAS NOT PART OF OR IF IT WAS NOT PART OF THE BENEFIT WHEN THEY WERE WORKING WE CANNOT, ONCE THEY RETIRE GIVE ADDITIONAL BENEFIT TO THE EMPLOYEE. OUR CURRENT PLAN ALLOWS FOR A COLA IF WE ARE 100% FUNDED. BECAUSE WE ARE NOT

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DO WE CANNOT GIVE THE COLA. >> I READ THAT STATUTE. I DID NOT CONNECT IT , CONNECTED IT TO SEVERANCE AND THOSE EXTRA

BENEFITS. >> IT IS A BENEFIT THAT THE EMPLOYEE HAD . WE DON'T HAVE , REGULAR EMPLOYEES DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT PER SE BUT IT IS A BENEFIT.

>> WHEN THEY ARE HIRED THEY GET A CERTAIN BENEFIT AND IF WE TRY TO CHANGE IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. WE CAN ONLY DO THAT IF THEY ARE PART OF THE PROGRAM AND WE ARE 100% FUNDED.

>> WE CAN CHANGE WHEN THEY ARE EMPLOYED, BUT WHEN THEY RETIRE WE CANNOT GIVE ADDITIONAL BENEFIT. SO IF YOU CHANGE IT DURING THEIR EMPLOYMENT THAT'S FINE, BUT ONCE THAT PERSON TERMINATES , THEY ARE RETIRED YOU CANNOT GIVE THEM ANYTHING THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE BENEFIT WHEN THEY WERE

EMPLOYED. >> .IT.

>> IF SOMETHING SERVES ME RIGHT ARE WE 80% FUNDED?

>> 82%. >> SO 18% IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY. TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WE ARE

SHORT. >> WE WILL NEVER GET TO 100%.

>> CONTINUING ITS METEORIC RISE.

>> WE HAVE BEEN UP TO 93 RECENTLY?

>> WE STARTED AT 96 AND HAVE GONE UP AND DOWN.

>> YOU ARE RIGHT, IT DEPENDS . >> IT IS ALL LEVERAGED TO THE INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO WHICH THE RETIREMENT BOARD MEETS WITH THESE FOLKS REGULARLY TO GET REPORTS FROM THEM . FROM THE PRIMARY MANAGERS AND THEN THE SUB MANAGERS AND SUB SUB MANAGERS AND ALL THAT, IF YOU READ THE REPORTS THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF PAGES OF FINANCIAL TAX THAT'S RATHER DAUNTING. AT THE END OF THE DAY 82% FUNDING 18% EQUATES TO SOMEWHERE IN THE VICINITY OF $30 MILLION. TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WE ARE SHORT AND THE SUBJECT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED AT THE RETIREMENT BOARD LEVEL COUNTLESS TIMES AND WE COME TO THE SAME CONCLUSION THAT BASED ON THAT SHORTFALL IT'S SIMPLY NOT INAPPROPRIATE TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION FOR COLA, THEY ARE JUSTIFIED BUT IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THE FUND IS SHORT FUNDED, WE ARE GOING O BE PENALIZING SOMEBODY TO PUT THAT MONEY OUT TODAY. SO WE NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS. AT THE END OF THE DAY THAT'S WHERE IT COMES FROM. SO WE NEED TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS IN THOSE DELIBERATIONS. I'M NOT SUGGESTING COLAS ARE NOT WARRANTED BECAUSE I BELIEVE THEY ARE, BUT BASED ON THE CITY CHARTER I BELIEVE IS WHERE THE DOCTRINE COMES FROM THAT DOES NOT ALLOW US TO MAKE CHANGES OR ADD COLA UNTIL WE ARE 100% FUNDED. I'M NOT ADVOCATING WE WOULD CHANGE THAT. SOMEBODY'S GOING TO PICK UP THE BILL FOR THAT.

>> THE FIRE BOARD LOOKED INTO IT. I DON'T THINK WE ARE UNDER THE SAME STATE LAW PROBABLY THE CONTRACT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

IT'S A HARD THING TO FUND. >> IT WAS. THEY HAD SOME .

>> WE KNOW PEOPLE WENT BACK THAT THEY FOUND.

>> IT TOOK A COUPLE YEARS TO FIND A WAY TO DO IT.

>> RETIREES WHO HAD BEEN COLLECTING 20 OR 25 YEARS. THE AMOUNT THEY ARE WITHDRAWING FROM THE FUND.

>> IT WAS TIED TO THE PREVENTION -- FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE. IT WAS SOMETHING THEY FOUND WITH THE PENSION FUND MANAGERS WHO HAD SOME MONIES AND IT PERFORMED AT A CERTAIN LEVEL SO IT GAVE OPPORTUNITY TO CATCH PEOPLE UP.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> REAL QUICK, COMMISSIONER BRODERICK IS RIGHT, THE RETIREMENT BOARD, WE HAVE KNOCKED OUR HEADS. WE HEAR AND WE TRY AND I THINK EVERYBODY WAS AGHAST WHEN THE STATUTE CAME UP AND EVERYBODY SAID WE COULDN'T DO IT. YOU HEARD THE GASP IN THE ROOM. SOME GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP TODAY. TWO THINGS , TWO QUICK THINGS. BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO LEAVE HERE TODAY, THE FUND IS

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SECURED. >> IS VERY HEALTHY COMPARED TO

OTHERS. >> I DON'T WANT RETIREES CALLING ME SAYING WAIT A MINUTE. 30 MILLION HERE, PART OF THE CONVERSATION. THE FUND IS SECURE. WE ARE PUTTING OUR BACKS, NOT ON ME AND COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, BUT THE PEOPLE BEFORE US. WHEN YOU GO TO THE MEETINGS AND YOU TALK ABOUT AND YOU SEE THE NUMBERS FOR MOST OF THE OTHER CITIES, YOU KNOW WHERE FORT PIERCE IS SO MAKE SURE YOU STICK YOUR CHEST OUT A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING AND THE LAST THING I WILL SAY. MISS MORRIS BROUGHT IT OUT BUT I WILL CLOSE THAT DOOR REALLY QUICK. YES WE CAN GO CHANGE AND WRITE THE CONTRACT FOR THESE NEW EMPLOYEES, THEY COULD THE PENSION INCREASES WHEN THEY RETIRE , BUT JUST REMEMBER EVERYBODY, IF WE DO THAT IT'S GOING TO COST SOME MONEY AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IF WE DO THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 82% NOW SO GET READY TO HEAR A LOWER NUMBER AND WE WANT THE NUMBER TO GROW UP INSTEAD OF GOING DOWN. IF WE THINK ABOUT DOING THAT, JUST KNOW THAT IF THE GOAL IS 100% ONE DAY AND BE THAT STRONG I WOULD SUGGEST WE CONTINUE TO GET 100% AND THEN MAKE A DECISION, BUT ANYTHING YOU DO TO THESE NUMBERS RIGHT NOW THAT WE DON'T OUR SIDE IS GOING TO INCREASE PERCENTAGES THAT YOU HEAR FROM MISS MORSE AND THE RETIREMENT BOARD COMING IN. ESPECIALLY NOW THAT WE HAVE KIND OF GONE IN THE UP DIRECTION AND GOT OVER TO SOME OF THE BAD TIMES WHEN IF YOU ARE ON THE RETIREMENT BOARD AND THEY TALK ABOUT THE GOOD NUMBERS AND MISS MORRIS SITS OVER HERE AND SAYS I REMEMBER WHEN, I REMEMBER WHEN. SO LET'S NOT FORGET RECENTLY NUMBERS WERE GOING DOWN AND IT IS OUR DUTY, OUR DUTY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RETIREMENT BOARD THAT ME AND COMMISSIONER BRODERICK SIT ON IS PROTECTING THE MONEY OF THE RETIREE. SO I DO NOT TAKE IT LIGHTLY WHEN I GET CALLS SAYING WE NEED COST-OF-LIVING INCREASES. I UNDERSTAND AND I WANT EVERYBOD'E BEST THAT WE CAN TO GET 18% THE REAR TRYING TO FIND , COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. YOU WERE GENEROUS WHEN YOU SAID 400 PAGES EACH PERSON SENT US. WE ARE TRYING AND WE DO HAVE, ONE THING WE HAVE DONE, WE HAVE PICKED A GREAT ADVISORY TEAM AND ONE THING WE DIDN'T REPORT, SOMEBODY GAVE US , I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD BUT SOMEBODY GAVE A REDUCTION IN REDUCTION OF COST BASED ON WHAT THE CITY HAS GONE THROUGH WITH THE HURRICANES AND WHATEVER AND THE RETIREES SO THEY GIVE US A DISCOUNT ON THEIR FEE WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE THAT MONEY STAYS IN THE WHOLE FORUM. SO WE ARE WORKING ON TRYING TO DO IT. SO, YOU'RE RIGHT IT'S ABOUT 30 MILLION. I DID THAT CALCULATION OF 30 MILLION AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I WANT TO PUT ON THE TAXPAYERS OR EMPLOYEES.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT WE HAVE A GENEROUS BENEFITS PACKAGE. ONE OF THE BEST IN THE STATE. OUR EMPLOYEES , EVEN THOUGH THE YOUNG ONES MIGHT COME TO WORK HERE AND NOT RECOGNIZE THE BENEFIT, THE LONGER YOU ARE HERE THE MORE YOU REALIZE THE BENEFIT OF THAT. SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE NOT EVER BEEN GENEROUS IN THE PAST. SO, GOOD JOB.

>> I WOULD LIKE THE COMMISSION TO KNOW THAT THE RETIREMENT BOARD UNDER MISS MORRIS GUIDANCE TAKES THEIR DECISION-MAKING EXTREMELY SERIOUSLY. THEY ARE VERY DEDICATED, WHEN WE MEET WITH THE UNDERLYING FUNDING PEOPLE THE BOARD ASKS THE HARD QUESTIONS AND THEY ARE MORE THAN HAPPY, IF IT IS ADVISED FROM SENIOR MANAGEMENT TO MAKE CHANGES , THE BOARD HAS ACTED TO MAKE CHANGES TO IMPROVE THE MAKEUP OF THE OVERALL PACKAGE. SO THEY ARE DOING THEIR JOB AND I THINK THEY ARE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB, VERY CONSCIENTIOUS. A LOT OF FOLKS ON THAT BOARD HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME. THEY ARE SEASONED VETERANS AND THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO IT'S A GOOD GROUP OF

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VOLUNTEERS THAT PARTICIPATE. >> AND TAKE IT SERIOUSLY IN TERMS OF PROTECTING IT FOR THE PEOPLE BECAUSE WE KNOW PENSION PLANS GET IN TROUBLE WHEN THEY ARE TOO GENEROUS BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES, THE ONES IN TROUBLE.

>> NOT IN TROUBLE, WE MAY HAVE NEGATIVE RED INK BUT WE ARE WELL-FUNDED, WELL PROTECTED AND I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEMS ON THE HORIZON FOR ALL OF THAT SO THE MANAGEMENT OF THE RETIREMENT FUND IS SOUND HANDS AND SOUND CONDITION.

>> GOOD, GOOD. ANYTHING ELSE? >> TO SPEAK TO WHAT BOTH COMMISSIONERS HAVE SAID. THE EMERALD ADVISORS GAVE US A 50% INCREASE IN OUR SERVICE FEES AS A RESULT AS THEY SAW WE WERE IMPACTED BY HURRICANES AND AS A WORLD RESULT THEY GET 50% FOR THE QUARTER SO THAT'S A PLUS. ALSO, TO SPEAK TO THE COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. THE BOARD HAS RECENTLY, WE TERMINATED OUR CONTRACT WITH MORGAN STANLEY WHO HAD BEEN A LONG-TERM MONEY MANAGER. WE MONITORED THE FUNDS AND IT WAS NOT PERFORMING UP TO CALIBER SO WITH ADVISEMENT OF OUR CONSULTANT WE DID A SEARCH. WE ARE NOW MOVING WITH BRAND , ELIMINATING THE MORGAN STANLEY CONTRACT , BUT THE RESULT IS A $100,000 SAVINGS TO US SO WE DID SAVE $100,000 FROM DOING

THAT. >> GOOD JOB.

>> THAT'S ONE OF THOSE CONSCIOUS DECISIONS THAT THE BOARD MADE, THEY LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS AND THE SAVINGS AND THE

PERFORMANCE. >> GOOD, GREAT, THANK YOU

[c. Follow-up discussion and direction regarding the final contract for Pay to Park Pilot Program with PCI Municipal Services]

MA'AM. LIVING ON. >> NEXT ITEM FOLLOW-UP DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION REGARDING FINAL CONTRACT FOR PAY TO PARK PILOT PROGRAM WITH PCI MUNICIPAL SERVICES.

>> HERE TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE ON PAY TO PARK, LAST TIME WE WERE HERE YOU WANTED SOME FOLLOW-UP INFORMATION AND SHE HAS THAT WITH SOME NEW INFORMATION FROM CONVERSATIONS

WITH ST. LUCIE COUNTY. >> GOOD MORNING, GIVE ME ONE MOMENT TO GET THIS UP.

GOOD MORNING. SO WE ARE DOING A FOLLOW-UP REPORT TO THE PREVIOUS REPORT WE PROVIDED WE HAD DONE THE RFP ON THE PAY TO PARK PILOT PROGRAM. WE HAVE A CONTRACT, IN THE MIDDLE OF NEGOTIATIONS WITH PCI MUNICIPAL SERVICES , THE VENDOR CHOSEN FOR THE RFP PROCESS. THE LAST TIME I PRESENTED TO YOU WITH THE TERMS WE ALREADY AGREED UPON THERE WERE GENERAL CONTRACT TERMS WHICH YOU ARE REPORTING IN ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE. WE AGREED TO 24 HOUR SERVICES FRIDAY AND SATURDAY SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF THE NIGHTTIME ACTIVITY AT JETTY PARK AND EARLY MORNING ACTIVITIES THAT ROLLED IN FROM ONE THE OTHER ON FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS AND THEN THE MANAGEMENT FEE WE AGREED TO DO REVENUE SHARING VERSUS FLAT RATE. THOSE ARE THE ITEMS THAT WERE DECIDED. WE DO HAVE A COUPLE ITEMS THAT ARE NOT BEEN DETERMINED AND THE BIGGEST IS NONRESIDENT PERMITS WHICH WILL PROBABLY BE THE MAIN TOPIC OF CONVERSATION TODAY. THERE WAS ALSO SOME REQUESTS FROM THE VENDOR TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ON THE BUSINESS VALIDATION WHERE BUSINESSES COULD VALIDATE PARKING PERMITS WITH ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE AND JANITORIAL SERVICES. WE ARE STARTING WITH A NONRESIDENTIAL PERMIT ISSUE AND THE BIGGEST THING THAT CAME UP WHICH WAS VERY RECENT, ST. LUCIE COUNTY REACHED OUT TO US WITH CONCERNS ABOUT DIFFERENTIAL PARKING. BECAUSE IT WILL IMPACT THEIR AGREEMENT WITH THE NOURISHMENT GRANT THAT THEY HAVE, I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED THE KEY PARTS OF THE GRANT CONTRACT THAT ST. LUCIE COUNTY HAS PROVIDED TO US. ON THE BOTTOM LINE IN BOLD THE NONFEDERAL SPONSOR FORT PIERCE SHALL PROVIDE AND MAINTAIN PARKING AREAS OPEN AND AVAILABLE TO ALL ON EQUAL TERMS. THAT'S WITHIN THEIR GRANT. AT THIS TIME I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AND LET HER PROVIDE ADDITIONAL DETAILS.

>> SO AS WE WERE DISCUSSING, THIS ISSUE BROUGHT TO US FROM ST. LUCIE COUNTY WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE PRUDENT FOR YOU ALL TO

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AVAILABILITY TO THE BEACH. >> SO NO MATTER WHERE THEY LIVE WINNING INSIDE OR OUTSIDE THE COUNTY.

>> YES MA'AM. CITY, NON-CITY, COUNTY, OPEN AND AVAILABLE TO

ALL ON EQUAL TERMS. >> I KNOW YOU PROBABLY CANNOT SPEAK TO THIS, BUT I WILL MENTION THAT IF THERE IS PAID PARKING IN OTHER AREAS AND THERE IS PAID PARKING WITH LOCALS GETTING FREE PARKING SO WE HAVE TO ASSUME THAT EITHER THEY DON'T HAVE THIS AGREEMENT IN TERMS OF WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN TERMS OF EROSION OR NOBODY HAS BROUGHT IT TO

THEIR ATTENTION? >> I THINK THOSE ARE SAFE

ASSUMPTIONS. >> OKAY, SO THAT MEANS WE CANNOT ALLOW FORT PIERCE RESIDENTS TO PARK FREE.

>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE COUNTY IS REACHING OUT TO THEIR GRANT PEOPLE ON THEIR END, PROVIDING THE FUNDING TO THEM.

TO CLARIFY EXACTLY HOW THIS WOULD IMPACT THEM. I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE RECEIVED UPDATE FROM THE COUNTY, BUT UNDERSTANDING IS THEY HAVE EXPRESSED A SIGNIFICANT CONCERN THAT THIS WILL IMPACT THEIR ABILITY TO PROCEED FORWARD WITH THIS FUNDING IF WE DO THIS. SO, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD I THINK THAT'S THE OBJECTION WE ARE RECEIVING FROM THE COUNTY.

>> SHOULD WE WAIT UNTIL WE GET AN ANSWER BEFORE WE TAKE ANY

ACTION? >> I THINK THAT IS UP TO YOU ALL. IF YOU WANT TO WAIT FOR THEM TO PROVIDE FURTHER INFORMATION, WE COULD. I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT IS EXPECTED.

THIS CAME UP IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. IS THAT A FAIR TIMEFRAME THAT WE RECEIVED THAT FROM THEM? SO WE COULD WAIT FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, WE COULD ASK THEM TO ATTEND IF YOU WOULD LIKE THE STAFF MEMBER WHO HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS.

>> IS THAT PREDECESSOR AT GREAT LENGTH ABOUT THIS. THEY HAVE DEEP

CONCERNS ABOUT US PROCEEDING. >> THOSE PARKS ARE SO BEAT UP SO I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT WE NEED THE EXTRA REVENUE IN ORDER TO KEEP THE PARKS IN GOOD SHAPE SO TO DO THAT AND TO CHARGE RESIDENTS , SOCIAL MEDIA IS ALREADY KILLING US ON WHAT'S HAPPENING. ALREADY KILLING US.

>> I WAS GOING TO BRING IT UP.

>> IT'S ALREADY OUT THERE. EVEN IF YOU SAY NO NO WE ARE NOT GOING TO CHARGE THE RESIDENCE. SO NOW IT IS, YOU KNOW WE ARE BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE.

>> THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION WE INTENDED FOR YOU ALL TO HAVE. WE HAVE RECEIVED SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS ABOUT PROCEEDING WITH THIS AND A QUESTION OF DO YOU WANT TO PROCEED WITH THIS IN LIGHT OF THIS AND IN GENERAL?

>> YES, YES. THANK YOU, COUNTY. WE NEED HELP WITH THE PARKS.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES. >> THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, I'M PRETTY SURE YOU GUYS HAVE EMAILS RECEIVED ABOUT THIS PAY FOR PARKING. ALSO, YOU KNOW I DID NOT RESPOND I READ A BUNCH OF COMMENTS ABOUT ALL OF US UP

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MAKING? >> MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING WITH CONVERSATIONS I HAVE HAD, IT HAS TO BE EQUAL TO ALL. NOW THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT EVERYBODY HAS TO PAY THE HOURLY RATE. IF YOU WERE TO MAKE A RULE THAT SAYS YOU CAN BUY THE ANNUAL PASS FOR $50 IT JUST HAS TO BE AVAILABLE TO ALSO ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO BUY THE ANNUAL PASS COULD DO SO YOU COULD COME FOR THE DAY AND PAY YOUR HOURLY RATE. SO IF YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD AND THINK IN DIFFERENT TERMS YOU CAN STILL DO A PERMIT FOR THE PERMIT HAVE TO BE AVAILABLE TO ALL. IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT TO COME TO THE HOURLY RATE, YOU COULD MAKE IT ANNUAL IT JUST CANNOT SAY ST. LUCIE COUNTY GETS THE ANNUAL RATE SO SOMEBODY FROM FORT LAUDERDALE WAS TO PAY THE ANNUAL FEE THEY CAN DO THAT AND COME ALL YEAR ROUND. THE SAME FOR FORT PIERCE RESIDENTS. THERE ARE ADDITIONAL OPTIONS AS LONG AS YOU DON'T SPECIFY. I FEEL LIKE I'M BACK WITH YOU CANNOT HAVE RULES FOR SIGNS OF LIKE I'M BACK INTO THAT. SO YOU CAN HAVE DIFFERENT RATES BUT THEY HAVE TO BE AVAILABLE TO ALL.

>> THEIR STAFF COST ASSOCIATED WITH DOING PERMITS. I DON'T

WANT THAT LOST. >> REMIND ME WHY WE ORIGINALLY DID THIS. WE WERE TRYING TO GET THE BUSINESSES TO BE ABLE TO

HAVE TURNOVER ? >> CORRECT. IS STARTED WITH DOWNTOWN PARKING. GOING TO TWO-HOUR PAID PARKING AND THEN

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JETTY IS ONE OF THEM. >> EXCUSE ME FOR INTERRUPTING YOUR. SOMEBODY SAID THE COUNTY HAS SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THIS. IS IT OVER AND ABOVE THE BEACH NOURISHMENT ISSUE?

>> THE INFORMATION I RECEIVED WAS THE BEACH READING NOURISHMENT . FOR THE GENERAL ISSUE I WOULD POINT TO MS. COX IF SHE HAD THE CONVERSATIONS, THE ISSUE BROUGHT TO ME WAS SPECIFICALLY THE BEACH NOURISHMENT.

>> THE FUNDING OF IT, THEY WERE FEARFUL THEY WOULD LOSE THE

FUNDING. >> BEYOND THAT I DID NOT HAVE

ANY OPINION ? >> NOT THAT I KNOW OF.

>> SO, THIS , I HAVE NOT BEEN HERE MAKING THESE DECISIONS.

FRESH OFF THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL THIS WAS BROUGHT UP QUITE A BIT. THE COUNTY ISSUE ASIDE I WOULD BE HARD-PRESSED FOR THEM TO FIND A LEGAL REASONWHY WE COULD NOT DO THIS. I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY BUT WE ARE NOT MENTIONED IN THE GRANT AND THE COUNTY ITSELF IS NOT PROHIBITING PARKING. WE ARE.

AND I DON'T SEE THAT AS A PROBLEM, BUT THAT ASIDE, I WAS STILL SKEPTICAL ABOUT HOW LOGISTICALLY WE WOULD KEEP TRACK OF WHO IS A RESIDENT, WHO IS NONRESIDENT AND HOW THEY VERIFY THAT AT THE PARK AND ISSUING STICKERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. LOGISTICALLY IT SOUNDED LIKE A NIGHTMARE. I THINK IF WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH A PARKING. WHETHER WE DO PILOT PROGRAM OR WHEREVER, I THINK THE ANNUAL PASS IS THE WAY TO PROVIDE BENEFIT TO RESIDENTS BECAUSE IT'S PEOPLE USING THE BEACH CONSISTENTLY. MORE THAN 10 TIMES PAYS FOR YOUR ANNUAL PASS AND I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT FOR EVERYBODY , KEEPING IT EQUAL AND I THINK LOGISTICALLY THAT MAKES MORE SENSE AS FAR AS ENFORCEMENT AND WE ARE STILL PROVIDING A DISCOUNT, BUT NOT A DISCOUNT TO THE RESIDENCE FOR

PEOPLE THAT USE IT EVERY DAY. >> WHY IS IT?

>> INSTEAD OF PAYING HOURLY IF YOU GO TO THE BEACH 10 TIMES THAN THE ANNUAL PASS IS PAY FOR.

>> IF YOU PUT YOUR BOAT AND AT THE PARK EVERY WEEKEND.

>> PEOPLE COMING USING THE HOTEL FOR ONE DAY THEY WILL NOT USE THE ANNUAL PASS, BUT PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE EVERY WEEKEND , THAT WOULD BE A HUGE COST SAVINGS INSTEAD OF MAKING IT

HOURLY FOR EVERYBODY. >> I BELIEVE FROM THE LAST PRESENTATION THE RECOMMENDED FEE STRUCTURE WAS $30 PER HOUR MAXIMUM $20 FOR THE DAY. USING A ROUND NUMBER $50, TO AND HAVE

VISITS EQUAL $50. >> WE HAVE A PAY BEACH STATE PARK? YOU CAN GET ANIMAL PASSES OR PAY BY THE DAY, IT USED TO BE FIVE DOLLARS FOR THE DAY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANNUAL

PASSES ARE. >> I WANT TO BE CLEAR. THE PARCEL THAT THIS IS APPLICABLE TO IS THE CAUSEWAY BEACH AREA GOING UP TO CHUCK'S , THAT'S WHAT I CALL THE CAUSEWAY AND THE AREA OF JETTY PARK. THOSE ARE THE ONLY APPLICABLE AREAS , TO GET THE BEACH NOURISHMENT GRANT.

>> THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, YES.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHY THE CAUSEWAY IS THERE.

>> I DON'T KNOW THEY GIVE A LIST OF WHICH SPECIFICALLY.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON.

>> ANYTHING THEY RECEIVED NOURISHMENT ON AND I DON'T REMEMBER IN THE INFORMATION IT OUT, WHICH ONES BUT WE COULD CLARIFY IF THE DECISION IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH AREAS NOT

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NOT A BEACH. >> I WANT TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE THE REASON WE GOT HERE, MY RECOLLECTION IS CONDITIONS OF THE BATHROOM PARTICULARLY ON THE CAUSEWAY WERE MAJOR ISSUES . THERE WERE NOT CLEAN, THEY WERE BROKEN. SO WE LOOKED AT MAINTENANCE COST OF WHAT THAT IS COSTLY TO GET WORKERS TO KEEP THEM CLEAN AND DURING COPING WE SAW A LOT OF PEOPLE HANGING OUT BECAUSE THE BEACHES WERE OPEN AND THE BATHROOMS WERE HEAVENLY TORN SO THAT'S TOP OF MIND. SO I NEED TO CLARIFY THAT AND JETTY PARK WAS BATHROOMS AND TURNOVER AND HOW DO WE MITIGATE PEOPLE STAYING THERE ALL DAY LONG AND PARKING WAS A NIGHTMARE. AND WE LOOKED AT WAYS TO SOFTEN THAT. SO, YES I THINK THAT WOULD HELP ME UNDERSTANDING AND I THINK IT WOULD HELP CLARIFY FOR US IF WE ARE JUST DEALING WITH JETTY PARK , THEN I THINK WE CAN PILE IN SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION.

>> NEIGHBORS OF JC PARK WOULD BE APPRECIATIVE IF WE WOULD HAVE A PAID SITUATION. BUT I WILL SAY YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THE BATHROOMS. THE BATHROOMS AT JETTY PARK IN ADVANCE OF MILTON I WAS OVER THERE AND PUBLIC WORKS WAS TAKING AWAY THE PORTA POTTY'S. BECAUSE THEY ARE SO ABUSE. THAT'S 24/7.

>> JETTY OR JC PARK TO ME IS A DIFFERENT MIXTURE BECAUSE PEOPLE LAUNCH BOATS AND WE HAVE ORGANIZATIONS THAT RENT PAVILIONS TO DO THEIR ANNUAL PICNIC OR WHATEVER IT IS SO THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT TO ME BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE WHO PAY FOR THE PAVILION TO DO THAT ANNUAL PICNIC OR WHATEVER WE DO . TO ME THAT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A HEARTBURN BECAUSE THOSE ARE LOCAL PEOPLE DOING THESE EVENTS AND THERE ARE THE CLASS REUNIONS AND THAT KIND OF THINGS. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO JUMP OFF THE BRIDGE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. I SAY THAT TO SAY, LITERALLY JUMP OFF THE BRIDGE. THE COST OF US MAINTAINING AND PROVIDING STANDARD OF WHAT CITIZENS WANT WHEN IT COMES TO THE FACILITY IS COSTING MONEY AND WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY SO

WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY. >> I THINK WE HAVE A SLIDE THAT

SHOWS ANNUAL COST. >> I'M GOING TO CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR OTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS AND COMMISSIONER JOHNSON THE PAVILION THING MAY FALL UNDER THIS BUSINESS VALIDATION PROGRAM. A DISCUSSION TOPIC WHERE BUSINESSES COULD VALIDATE A PARKING TICKET AND PAY AND THERE ARE THREE FUNDING OPTIONS. WHETHER THE BUSINESS COVERS THE FULL COST, WHETHER WE GRANT A 50% DISCOUNT OR IF THE CITY FUNDS COMPLETELY. THERE WAS A QR CODE SO WHEN YOU GO TO THE RESTAURANT YOU CAN QR CODE AND IT WILL PAY AND IF YOU GET A PERMIT FOR THE PAVILION WE COULD DO QR CODE SECRET OF THE PARKING VALIDATED THAT WAY SO THEIR OPTIONS LIKE TO THE BUSINESS TELEVISION PROGRAM FOR RENTAL OR SPECIAL EVENTS OR THINGS LIKE THAT. THIS WAS AN OPTION PRESENTED TO US SO BUSINESSES WHICH IS MORE SPECIFIC TO JETTY PARK BUT IT COULD BE FOR ANY BEACHES OR LOCATIONS WHERE YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO EITHER DISCOUNT , THE CITY FUNDS COMPLETELY LIKE A PAVILION RENTAL OR THE BUSINESS FUNDS COMPLETELY. SO THIS WAS AN OPTION PROVIDED TO US . AND THEN THE MAINTENANCE.

SO THEY HAD OFFERED THE VENDOR PCI OFFERED TO US ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE SERVICES THE DAILY TRASHCAN EMPTYING WOULD BE PERFORMED DAILY ON WEEKDAYS AND TWICE ON THE WEEKEND. THE CITY WOULD PROVIDE A DUMPSTER AND IT WOULD COST $3500 A MONTH AND I DID CONFIRM FOR ALL THREE PARKS, THESE NUMBERS ARE FOR

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SAVINGS TO THE CITY. >> TRASH REMOVAL ON HERE WE WOULD STILL HAVE, THEY WILL NOT REMOVE THE TRASH OR IF YOU HAVE A DUMPSTER WITH A PAGE TO EMPTY?

>> CITY PROVIDES DUMPSTER TRASH PLACEMENT HAULING SO DUMPSTER WOULD BE PROVIDED THERE WOULD EMPTY AND THROW IT IN THE DUMPSTER AND THE CITY WOULD COME PULL THE DUMPSTER.

>> SO THERE IS ADDITIONAL FEE OR COST GOT IT.

>> SO YOU SAY 300,000 FOR WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW?

>> WHAT WAS PROVIDED OVER HERE. THIS IS THE TOTAL OF WHAT I GOT FOR SOUTH CAUSEWAY, THE JETTY AND JC TRASH REMOVAL, JANITORIAL AND CLEANING SUPPLIES.

>> I DON'T THINK WE DO TWICE DAILY.

>> NO. >> I DON'T THINK WE DO.

>> THE MATH IS NOT CORRECT. >> DEFINITELY NOT AT ALL. I TRIED CORRECTING THIS, THIS MONING BECAUSE I SAW A LOT OF

MATH ERRORS. >> THIS IS A SNIPPET OF THE OPERATIONS AND DOES NOT INVOLVE X , REPAIRS, ET CETERA. JETTY PARK IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE. I AM IN THE PARK THREE MORNINGS A WEEK, I RUN THROUGH THERE AND THERE IS SIGNIFICANT TRIP HAZARDS ON THE SIDEWALKS. IT IS IN POOR CONDITION, NOT EVEN AVERAGE TO GOOD. IT IS IN POOR CONDITION WHICH WILL REQUIRE X IN BASEMENT TO BRING IT BACK UP TO ANY TYPE OF LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE WOULD WANT THE PARK TO BE IN AND I CONSIDER IT TO BE HAZARDOUS. JUST A JANITORIAL ASPECT OF THIS IS $300,000.

>> ONE AND 34,000. >> MY MATH WAS WRONG.

>> $134,000. X WILL DWARF THIS AND IT IS SIGNIFICANT. THE RESTROOMS AT JETTY PARK ARE AN ABOMINATION.

>> I HAVE HEARD FROM CONSTITUENTS THAT IT IS TIRED.

THAT WAS ENHANCED AND BUILT RIGHT BEFORE , 2011 , 2010 , 2011 WITH THE BOARD AND THE HISTORY OUT THERE WITH THE SWINGS AND EVERYTHING. IT NEEDS A BIG REPLACEMENT. YES IT DOES.

>> SOURCING THAT MONEY. IT'S NOT GROWING COUNTRIES.

>> IT IS A BEAUTIFUL SPOT THAT IS HEAVILY USED.

>> THAT'S THE REASON IT'S IN THE CONDITION IT'S IN, IT IS USED WHAT IT WAS BUILT FOR WHEN WE ARE NOT MAINTAINING

APPROPRIATELY. >> A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE USING IT

24/7. >> OKAY SO I DO APOLOGIZE MY MATH WAS WRONG. I WAS TAKING THE NUMBER FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE WITH $40,000 AND SUPPLIES IT COMES TO 160. I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S INCLUDED HERE IS ANY STAFF TIME FOR THAT BUT WE ARE OUTSOURCING THE THING ONCE A DAY.

>> CURRENTLY WE OUTSOURCE? >> WE OUTSOURCE THE JANITORIAL.

>> THAT WOULD BE COST ON TOP OF 134?

>> THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE JANITORIAL.

>> 20,000 ROUGHLY MORE WE WOULD GET TWICE A DAY SERVICE .

>> FROM THIS IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE TO PROVIDE PAPER AND SOAP.

SUPPLIES WE WOULD FOOT THE BILL. I DON'T KNOW THE COST.

>> 14,500. >> AND IF WE HAD PAID PARKING

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>> DO YOU HAVE THE PROJECTED REVENUES?

>> WE HAVE THE PROJECTED REVENUES AND HOPEFULLY MY MATH

IS CORRECT. >> ARE YOU USING EXCEL?

>> I WAS USING MY FINGERS WHICH IS WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS.

REVENUE-SHARING WAS BASED ON THE RESIDENT PERMIT FOR THE CITY AND CITY AND COUNTY PERMITS. THOSE NUMBERS WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED MOVING FORWARD WITH EQUAL PAY FOR EVERYBODY. BUT, THE ESTIMATED REVENUE, THE ANTICIPATED REVENUE FOR JUST WHEN WE HAD CITY RESIDENT PERMIT WHICH IS WHAT I WOULD ASSUME EQUAL PAY WOULD BE IS JUST UNDER $700,000 IN REVENUE TOTAL. WITH A REVENUE SHARE OF ROUGHLY 50-50 FOR PCI AND THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. SO, IF 372 WOULD BE THE ESTIMATE INCOME TO THE CITY BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE PROVIDED IN THE PAST I WOULD NEED TO WORK WITH THEM TO GET THE UPDATED NUMBERS TO PENDING ON HOW WE MOVE FORWARD. THAT WAS THREE PARKS. SO WE WOULD NEED TO REWORK A LOT OF THESE NUMBERS. THE MAINTENANCE COSTS AS WE STAND IF MY MATH WAS CORRECT, IT IS ROUGHLY THE SAME. THIS WAS MY FINGERS DOING

IT. >> IT IS LESS AND ALSO WE CANNOT INCLUDE THE JETTY PARK OFF-DUTY DETAIL. I DON'T SEE

THAT GOING AWAY. >> THIS IS THE CURRENT COST,

YEAH. >> I DON'T SEE THAT GOING AWAY

EITHER. >> REVENUE PROJECTIONS ARE

BASED ON THREE DOLLARS AN HOUR? >> YES.

>> SO AGAIN IF THE CITY WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH TWO PARKS, WITH A FLAT RATE ANNUAL PERMIT AND ALL THOSE THINGS I WOULD NEED TO GO BACK TO PCI TO GET UPDATED NUMBERS.

>> I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AND WE WILL HAVE TO HEAR

FROM THE COUNTY. SO AND. >> THE VENDOR, I'M SURE THEY HAVE DEALT WITH THESE, I DON'T KNOW THE POTENTIAL PCI. I'M SURE THEY HAVE DEALT WITH THE ANNUAL PASS SCENARIO BEFORE. DO THEY PROVIDE SERVICES AS FAR AS ISSUING PERMITS?

>> THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SINGLE PERMIT RATE AND DOUBLE PERMIT IS WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS ON THE SCREEN. IF IT'S JUST SINGLE PERMIT TYPE IT WAS ONE FEE AND IF IT WAS MORE THAN ONE IT WAS ADDITIONAL FEE BECAUSE IT WAS ADDITIONAL WORK BASED ON THAT. IF WE LOOK AT , I WILL STOP SAYING CITY AND COUNTY AND SAY ONE PERMIT TYPE VERSUS TWO. THERE WAS A DEFINITE INCREASE IN THE COST IF WE WANT MORE THAN ONE PERMIT TYPE.

>> IF WE MOVE TO THE STRAIGHT HOURLY WITH ANNUAL PERMIT

THAT'S ONE TYPE? >> THAT'S WHAT I AM

ANTICIPATING. >> IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ONE DAY? AND IF YOU LIVE YEAR-ROUND , THAT'S ALL UNDER ONE UMBRELLA?

>> TYPICAL LIKE PAY BEACH DOES THE SAME THING, GET A PASS $60 GO TO ANY STATE PARK FOR THE YEAR. THAT IS A SIMILAR TYPE OF THING. WHICH WOULD PROVIDE BENEFIT TO THE RESIDENTS.

>> MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS I THOUGHT I HEARD IN THE QUESTION AS WELL, IS THE VENDOR MANAGING ISSUING THE PERMIT? ARE THEY REVIEWING THE APPLICABLE HE? WE GIVE STANDARDS, THEY REVIEW AND DETERMINE IF WE ARE DOING A SPLIT BASED ON RESIDENCY THAN THEY CAN DO THAT. IF WE ARE NOT, IF WE ARE DOING A STRAIGHT PERMIT THEY WOULD BE THE ONES TO ISSUE THE PERMITS AND THEY WOULD HANDLE THAT IN-HOUSE.

>> THIS IS A FULL MANAGEMENT SERVICE SO THEY WOULD BE DOING ALL OF THAT AND THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT.

SO IT WOULD BE EASIER BECAUSE IT'S JUST ANNUAL PERMIT.

>> THERE IS NO STAFF TIME ON PERMITTING.

>> SO OUR STAFF ARE NOT INVOLVED.

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>> NO SIR, THE WHOLE PROGRAM WAS A FULL-SERVICE MANAGEMENT

PROGRAM. >> THEY HAVE TO KEEP IT SIMPLE FOR THE RESIDENTS TO SECURE THEIR PERMIT AND IF IT'S NOT

WE HAVE FAILED. >> I WOULD ARGUE THAT I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A BETTER REVENUE SHARE , BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO CONFIRM RESIDENCY AND WHATNOT, IT'S JUST A CLICK, A PURCHASE CLICK. I WOULD ARGUE I WANT A BETTER RATE.

>> THE WHOLE THING WILL NEED A REAL EDUCATIONAL JOB WITH THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE CITY AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THIS

COUNTY. >> I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DID NOT HAVE ADDITIONAL EXPENSES. IF THEY ARE GOING TO CONDUCT THE OPERATION OF WHAT I CALL THE ANNUAL PASS THEN ALL OF THAT WITH THE FEES OR WHATEVER ARE BAKED INTO WHAT THEY'RE TELLING US. THE OTHER POINT YOU MADE AS FAR AS THIS, THEY HAVE DONE THIS SOME OTHER PLACE AND SO I THINK IT WOULD BE MUST UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY'VE DONE THIS AND THE MARKETING THEY DO IN THOSE AREAS AND IS THAT BAKED INTO THE PRICE? WILL WE GET THAT SO THEY CAN WAS TO MARKET THIS THING MOVING FORWARD.

>> TO ANSWER THE QUESTION WHICH WAS PART OF THE RFP YES AND YES. THEY ARE STRICTLY MUNICIPAL. THAT'S WHAT PCI , THAT'S WHAT IT STANDS FOR, PCI MUNICIPAL SERVICES WORKING WITH MUNICIPALITIES AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT. THEY DO NOT DO AIRPORTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY WORK WITH GOVERNMENT ENTITIES AND HAVE SEVERAL BEACHFRONT AREAS. YES, THE MARKETING AND EDUCATION THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE COST AS PART OF

THE RFP. >> ANYWHERE WITHIN DRIVING DISTANCE THAT THEY OPERATE CURRENTLY? THAT WE COULD CHECK

OUT? >> DEPENDS ON HOW FAR YOU WANT

TO DRIVE. >> I AM INTERESTED IN THAT, BUT MORE INTERESTED IN THE TRANSITION BECAUSE THE WHOLE, WE PAY TAXES, WHY ARE YOU CHARGING EXTRA IS THE THING WE HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT WE ARE TRYING, WHY WE ARE DOING IT, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. WE WANTED OUR ON PEOPLE TO DO IT BUT WE ARE PREVENTED BY THOSE BAD GUYS AT THE COUNTY. JUST KIDDING, JUST KIDDING.

JUST BECAUSE OF THE CONTRACTS. >> THE GENTLEMAN WHO WAS HERE LAST TIME WOULD BE HAPPY TO COME BACK AND ADDRESS THOSE SPECIFIC ITEMS. WE CAN RESCHEDULE FOR ANOTHER TIME WITH UPDATED NUMBERS BASED ON TWO PARKS, A FLAT RATE, NOT A

RESIDENCY. >> CHECK TO SEE WHICH PARKS ARE

REALLY, YES. INCLUDED. >> I ANTICIPATE US COMING BACK WITH UPDATED INFORMATION AND I LOVE THE GENTLEMAN FROM PCI COME BACK BECAUSE HE WAS VERY VERY GOOD. EVEN THE RFP PRESENTATION PRESENTING HOW THE AMBASSADORS INTERACT WITH THE COMMUNITY AND HOW THEY GET THE INFORMATION AND SHARE THE KNOWLEDGE. SO I WOULD BE HAPPY TO RESCHEDULE HIM TO COME BACK.

>> WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HIM BACK.

>> REAL QUICK BASED ON WHAT YOU SAID THE RESIDENTS PAY TAXES AND YOU KNOW THEY USE THE PARKS. CAN YOU GO BACK FOR YOUR BREAKDOWN OF , ALL RIGHT MAYBE I'M STILL TIRED FROM THE WEEKEND. IF I LOOK AT THIS, I ASKED MYSELF WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? IF I LOOK AT THIS , WE KNOW WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH SOME TYPE OF CITY OR COUNTY PERMIT. JUST BASED ON THESE NUMBERS WE HAVE A SHARE OF 164, 860. THIS WOULD BE THE INCOME.

>> BASED ON OTHER CONSIDERATION, BUT ROUGHLY.

>> THEN WANT TO DO QUICK CALCULATIONS , THAT DOES NOT EVEN COVER THE CURRENT COST OF WHAT WE ARE PAYING BECAUSE WE ARE PAYING OUT 173, 82. WHY WOULD I DO ANYTHING TO SOMEBODY TO PAY TAXES IF I'M NOT EVEN COVERING WHAT WE HAVEN'T

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HAVE OFFICERS. >> WE ARE PROVING THAT TOMORROW

NIGHT. >> THAT'S GOING UP. I HAVE A PROBLEM, IF I'M GOING TO ASK RESIDENTS TO PAY A PERMIT , SOME PARKING OR WHATEVER, ALL OF THE MONEY FROM THIS PROGRAM SHOULD GO TOWARD MAINTAINING THOSE BEACHES. NOT PART OF IT AND WAS SET TO PAY EVERYTHING WE NEED TO DO, TO PAY FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE BEACHES, SHOULD, WITH ANY PROGRAM WE ARE ASKING TAXPAYERS TO BUY A PERMIT, TO DO WHATEVER TO DO IT. RIGHT NOW THIS COULD CHANGE BECAUSE IT COULD GO TWO OR ONE, BUT NOW I'M NOT LIKING WHAT I'M SAYING BECAUSE WE'RE DOING THIS AND STILL COMING UP $9000 , BASED ON MY MATH. $9000 SHORT OF THIS MORNING AND HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THAT. IF I PUT A PROGRAM IN I WANT IT TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING THAT WE DECIDED WE WANTED THE PROGRAM TO DO TO MAINTAIN THE BEACHES AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE IF WE PUT A PROGRAM IN , TO CHART A PERMIT OR PARKING , THAT PROGRAM SHOULD TAKE CARE OF WHAT THE GOAL IS TO MAINTAIN THOSE SPOTS AND THEN THAT WOULD EASILY BE MONEY IN THIS BUDGET. IF I NEED $9000 I WILL USE $9000, $9000 SHORT FROM THIS SHOULD GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. IN THE BUDGET. I DON'T WANT TO PUT THIS PROGRAM IN AND STILL GO TO THE BUDGET AND FIND MONEY TO COME UP WITH WHAT WE DIDN'T MAKE BECAUSE I THOUGHT THE WHOLE PROGRAM WAS , WE NEED TO FIX THE AREAS. WE WILL DO IT BY FIXING THE AREAS. I GOT WITH THE COUNTY WITH NOURISHMENT BECAUSE IF THEY LOSE THAT MONEY THE BEACHES ARE NOT PRETTY AND PROPERTY WOULD WANT THEM TO BE, WHAT IF WE DO THIS I WANT THIS PROGRAM TO COVER EVERYTHING WE NEED TO DO WITH THOSE INLETS AND BATHROOMS, THOSE EQUIPMENTS, EVERYTHING. SO THAT WILL FREE UP MONEY THAT WE WOULD BE SPENDING ON THIS TO SPEND SOMEWHERE ELSE AND FOR THE CITY TO DO SOMETHING ELSE AND COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, YOU SAID EARLIER THAT SIDEWALKS AND OTHER STUFF AND EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE FIXED SO IF YOU HAVE A PARKING THING THAT FIXES THE BATHROOMS AND THE GROUND MAINTENANCE AND WHATEVER THAT SHOULD FREE UP MONEY TO FIX OTHER STUFF BUT I DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY. HAVE A PROJECT AND RESTORING 9000 OR $10,000.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE GO THAT ROUTE AND I SAY WE ARE NOT PAYING THE FULL AMOUNT, BUT WE ARE ASKING TAXPAYERS AND EVERYBODY ELSE TO HELP US DO THIS AND WHAT WE SOLD WHEN WE FIRST CAME WAS WE ARE THINKING ABOUT THIS PILOT PROGRAM BECAUSE ALL THE MONEY IS GOING TO GO TO MAINTAINING THESE PARKS. THE BATHROOMS, THE TRASH, THAT'S WHAT WE SAID IN THEIR PING AND WE HAVE TO COME BACK AND PAY MORE MONEY. MAYBE I'M MISSING IT OR MISSING THE POINT, MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY AS MUCH, THAT'S WHY HAVE A PROBLEM EVEN IF WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY AS MUCH BECAUSE ANYTHING WE ASK RESIDENTS TO DO EXTRA AFTER PAYING TAXES TO THE CITY SHOULD TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING WE ARE ASKING, WE SHOULD NOT ASK THEM TO PAY THE PRICE, WE DO THAT, PAY TAXES AND THE PRICE AND THE BUDGET IS STILL PUTTING MONEY IN. THAT'S WHERE I AM CONFUSED.

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>> JUST TO BE CLEAR WITH THESE PROJECTIONS, THE FIRST WAS WITH CITY OF FORT PIERCE RESIDENTS FREE. NO INCOME GENERATED AND THE OTHER WAS CITY AND COUNTY RESIDENTS FREE. NO MONEY BEING

GENERATED THERE. >> THIS IS WITH A BIG PORTION NOT PAYING ANYTHING SO THESE NUMBERS ARE NOT RELEVANT.

>> I'M DOING THIS QUICK MATH. OKAY. I WILL TAKE MY COMMENTS BACK BECAUSE I'M LIKE WAIT A MINUTE THIS IS NOT ADDING UP.

>> I THINK THERE'S TWO COMPONENTS YOU ARE BLENDING THAT NEED TO COME INTO ACCOUNT. THESE NUMBERS ARE FICTITIOUS SO WE NEED A NEW SET WITH REVENUE NUMBERS CHANGE DRAMATICALLY.

YOU SAY WANT TO COVER MY COST AND THE NEW NUMBERS WILL REFLECT THAT. HAVING SAID THAT WHEN YOU'RE NOT INCLUDING IS THE X PROBLEM. THE CAPITAL CONTRIBUTION REQUIRED IS GOING TO BE MASSIVE, WE ARE RECONSTRUCTING PARKS THAT'S WHAT THEY TRULY NEED. CALL IT ANYTHING YOU WANT THERE WILL BE A TRUCKLOAD OF MONEY INVESTED TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. INTERESTING PART OF THAT EQUATION BASED ON THE NEW NUMBERS IS REVENUE STREAM SUFFICIENT TO A BITE OF THIS ISSUE GOING PARK TO PARK POTENTIALLY THREE YEARS TO PAY FOR IT OUT OF THAT REVENUE STREAM THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. I'M NOT CONFIDENT THAT WILL BE THE CASE BASED ON MY OBSERVATIONS, BUT HAVING SAID THAT IT IS A MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO ELIMINATE THAT LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE WE ARE FUNDING FROM AN OUTSIDE SOURCE SNUFF IS COSTING $173,000 AND 30 WE CAN APPLY THAT TO CAPEX OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT THE CITY NEEDS IN ANOTHER AREA. SO YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT EQUATION MORE GLOBALLY VERSUS THE ONE LINE ITEM TO THE ONE LINE ITEM SO WITH REVISED NUMBERS COMING IN TO DO DISSECTION TO DETERMINE HOW TO REMOVE THOSE DOLLARS FOR THE BEST IMPACT WE CAN GET IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO. I SHARE YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT RESIDENCE I WAS AGAINST CHARGING RESIDENTS DAY ONE OF THE PROGRAM BUT IT APPEARS WE HAVE NO OTHER SOLUTION

AVAILABLE. SO. >> JUST FOR THE RECORD, YOUR CAPEX INVESTMENT IS THE NUMBER ONE FOOTNOTE . IT'S IN MY BRIEF SO THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH IT. THAT'S WHERE STARTED TO GO, IF THIS FUNDS EVERYTHING WHEN WE GET THE NEW NUMBERS THEN THE MONEY CAN GO TOWARD YOUR CAPEX. OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT COMES SO THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING.

>> AND I BELIEVE THAT, JENNY PARK WAS FUNDED BY GRANTS. I BELIEVE THAT. SO IF WE ARE GOING TO APPROVE IT, WE MIGHT BE INVESTIGATING FRIENDS. MIGHT GO ON THE LIST OF YOUR LIST.

>> THAT LIST IS EXPANDING AND THE OTHER ISSUE COMES DOWN, NOT THAT I'M LOOKING TO TAKE THIS OUT OF CONTEXT, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE CAPEX COST WILL BE. WE HAVE TO DETERMINE THE SCOPE OF WORK ET CETERA FOR REJUVENATION OF THESE FACILITIES , WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.

>> BRIGHT. WHILE WE HAVE A LOT OF HOMEWORK TO DO. OR YOU HAVE

A LOT. >> WANT TO MAKE SURE I GO BACK TO THE VENDOR. INSTEAD OF NONRESIDENT PERMITS IT WILL BE DISCUSSION ON FLAT RATE ANNUAL PERMITS AND THEN THE PER HOUR RATE. BUSINESS VALIDATION TO THE COMMISSION WANT THAT TO BE CONSIDERED? AN OPTION FOR BUSINESS VALIDATION?

>> IS THAT DISCUSSED IN THOSE BUSINESSES OVER THERE?

>> I'VE NOT REACHED OUT BUT I WOULD BE HAPPY FOR THE NEXT

ONE. >> THAT WOULD, YES.

>> MAY I BE INTERESTED IN IT IF THEY SUPPORT IT? IN A WAY WE

ARE DOING THIS FOR THEM. >> MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS I BELIEVE IN DISCUSSING THAT OPTIONS EXISTED WHERE THE CITY WOULD FOOT 100% OF THE VALIDATION VERSUS A SHARE WITH THE RESIDENT BUSINESSES WHERE THEY DO 50% OR

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100% OF THE VALIDATION. >> I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN

50%. >> I CAN GO TO BUSINESSES WITH

THAT. >> WE CAN BRING IT UP AT THE DBA.

>> DOWNTOWN BUSINESS. FOR THE FUTURE WE MOVE DOWNTOWN.

>> I WILL DISCUSS ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE AND JANITORIAL SERVICES BASED ON WHAT WOULD BE TO PARKS WE WILL TRY TO GET VALIDATION ON THE SOUTH CAUSEWAY BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE THAT'S IMPACTED BY THE NOURISHMENT. ALL OF THIS WILL BE BASED ON TWO PARKS , THE ANNUAL PERMITS , 50-50 BUSINESS

VALIDATION. >> MOST IMPORTANT IS IF THEY GET ANY WORD BACK THAT SAYS IT DOES NOT AFFECT BEACH EROSION

CONTRACT? >> IF WE DO THE PERMITS IT MAY NOT IMPACT THE PARK SO WE WILL HAVE ALL OF THAT. ALL OF THAT IRONED OUT BEFORE WE BRING BACK.

>> ARE WE GOOD? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I KNOW THIS WOULD BE A CHALLENGING DISCUSSION. DELIVERED.

[d. City Manager Discussion ]

>> OKAY WE WILL MOVE ON. NEXT ITEM CITY MANAGER DISCUSSION.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON YOU WANT TO START OFF?

>> THANK YOU. THAT WOULD BE IN OUR INTEREST TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION. WE ARE ALL BETTING BUSINESS WE HAVE HAD TO HIRE PEOPLE AND WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY UPDATE SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE WITH NUMBERS AND THEN LIKE WITH ANYTHING, AND ANY MANAGER WHO HAS HAD TO HIRE. YOU TRY TO WHITTLE DOWN , YOU DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT ALL THE APPLICATIONS. THERE WILL BE PEOPLE WHO ARE CLEARLY NOT QUALIFIED THINK IT'S OUR BEST INTEREST TO GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF OF WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE SO IT'S A BETTER USE OF TIME AND I ALSO KNOW TIME IS TICKING AWAY AND BEFORE WE KNOW IT WE WILL BE IN JANUARY AND WE HAVE A DEADLINE IN FEBRUARY. YES. I WANTED US TO HAVE A LITTLE DISCUSSION AND UPDATE WHERE WE ARE WITH NUMBERS AND GIVE US A SENSE OF WHERE WE ARE. AND THE TIMELINES

ABSOLUTELY. >> YOU HAVE BEEN HERE SO I THINK YOU ARE PREPARED TO DEAL WITH THIS.

>> I AM. >> IF THE CITY ATTORNEY WANTS

TO SPEAK FIRST. >> MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, THE HR MANAGER PREPARED EXECUTIVE SUMMARY. I WILL PASS IT ON TO YOU. OUTLINING WITH THE PROCESS HAS BEEN WITH PROPOSED IDEAS FROM HUMAN RESOURCES AS TO HOW TO PROCEED WITH THIS NARROWING DOWN OF CANDIDATES, INTERVIEWS AND PROPOSED TIMELINE. I'M GOING TO HAND THAT TO COMMISSIONER BRODERICK AND WE WILL POST THIS TO THE AGENDA.

POST MEETING. SO AS YOU LOOK THROUGH THAT I WILL LET MR. SORENSON EXPLAIN APPLICATIONS RECEIVED, THE PROPOSAL MOVING FORWARD, OF COURSE STAFF IS OPEN TO ANY DIRECTION YOU BELIEVE APPROPRIATE AND WE WILL PROCEED AS YOU DIRECT US BUT I WILL HAND IT OVER TO HIM TO GIVE YOU OUTLINE OF WHERE WE

ARE AND WHAT HE IS PROPOSING. >> IT IS A PLEASURE TO SPEAK WITH YOU THIS MORNING. AS MISS HAD JUST MENTIONED WHAT I HAVE IN THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY AT THE TOP IS A QUICK RECAP OVERVIEW OF RVR AND HAVE SUGGESTIONS. OF COURSE THESE ARE THINGS DONE IN MY PAST CAREER WHEN I WORK FOR THE CITY, WE WENT THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER REVIEW AND WE HAVE ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEWS WITH COMMISSIONERS AND WE WOULD HAVE ONE OR TWO DAYS, DEPENDING ON HOW LONG, HOW MANY APPLICANTS WE WANTED TO INTERVIEW. WE WOULD SHUFFLE THROUGH 45 MINUTES MOVING FROM OFFICE TO OFFICE TO HR TO COORDINATE THAT TO MOVE AROUND. WE HAD LUNCH READY FOR THE COMMISSIONERS AND FOR THE PEOPLE WHO CAME IN AND DID THE INTERVIEWS AND WE WOULD'VE THE FINAL INTERVIEWS IN THE AFTERNOON TO GET EVERYBODY THROUGH. AND THEN WE BRING THEM BACK TO COMMISSION FOR DISCUSSION. SO WHAT YOU WILL SEE HERE LOOKING AT NUMBER TWO RECRUITING PROCESS TIMELINE . THE RECORDING PERIOD WILL END DECEMBER 15 WHEN THE JOB CLOSES

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ONES WE WANT TO INTERVIEW. >> 1/6 IS A REGULAR MEETING

DATE? >> I BELIEVE 1/6 IS REGULAR MEETING. THE REASON WHY I CHOSE THAT, YES. THE ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEW AS I MENTIONED IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WE CAN CONDUCT THOSE BETWEEN 1/13 AND 1/24 HOPING EVERYBODY SCHEDULE WILL LINE UP TO WHERE WE GET EVERYBODY HERE ON A DAY OR TWO TO WORK THROUGH THOSE. AND THEN THE SHORT LIST PRESENTED AT THE REGULAR MEETING 2/3 THAT'S WHERE YOU GUYS WOULD DISCUSS INTERVIEWS AND DECIDE WHETHER YOU WANT TO GO DOWN TO TWO APPLICANTS OR THREE APPLICANTS, WHATEVER YOUR SHORT LIST MAY BE. FROM THERE YOU CAN DECIDE IF YOU DON'T LIKE ANY AND YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT OR YOU CAN MAKE A DECISION ON THAT NIGHT. IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW YOU WANT TO DO IT, IF YOUR SHORT LIST YOU CAN COME BACK WITH ONE MORE MEETING ON 2/18 WHICH WOULD BE THE DEADLINE TO MAKE FINAL DECISION FOR WHO YOU WANT TO CHOOSE.

>> JUST TO SLOW YOU DOWN. 2 D. ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEWS , MAKE A NOTE THAT THE WEEKEND OF THE FIRST, THE 23RD AND 24TH SOMEWHERE AROUND THOSE DAYS WE HAVE STRATEGIC PLANNING. IT'S LIKE THREE DAYS , TWO OR THREE DAYS WE WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE SO IF YOU NEED TO CHANGE YOUR TIME FRAME BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE, THE REASON I KNOW IS THE 24TH IS MY BIRTHDAY YOU HAVE ME

IN STRATEGIC PLANNING. >> WE WILL SING YOU HAPPY

BIRTHDAY. >> I HAD TO MOVE SOME STUFF OFF MY CALENDAR BECAUSE I NEED TO BE THERE. THAT'S WHY I KNOW SO JUST GIVING YOU A HEADS UP. THE ENDING TO THAT WEEK. THE 23RD.

>> AND THE 20TH IS A FEDERAL HOLIDAY.

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SAID WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME BUT I CAN ADJUST ANYWAY YOU WANT.

>> WE ARE GOO. >> SO THE DELAY WILL NOT BE ON

YOUR END. >> THAT'S WHY I TOLD THEM

ABOUT THOSE DAYS. >> RIGHT NOW IT SAYS .

>> WE ARE GOING TO THE SAME WEDDING. NOT SITTING AT THE

SAME TABLE. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE WEDDING.

>> ITEM 4. AS OF THIS MORNING WE HAVE 63 APPLICANTS. WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 59 IN STATE, THOSE WHO CAME FROM FLORIDA OBVIOUSLY. THREE APPLICANTS FROM OUT-OF-STATE AND ONE INTERNAL APPLICANT. I SKIPPED NUMBER THREE BUT THESE ARE THE AREAS IN WHICH WE HAVE POSTED THE JOB POSTING, WE HAD A GOOD TURNOUT OVER THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY WEEKEND POSTING ON INDEED AND LINKEDIN AND WE HAD QUITE A FEW APPLICANTS COME FROM THERE. I AM REALLY HERE, AS MENTIONED TO SEEK SOME FEEDBACK ON HOW YOU WANT TO PROCEED. IF THIS IS GOOD, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE ANYTHING AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> HAVE A QUESTION WOULD YOU REPEAT, 63 APPLICANTS TOTAL AND

THE OTHER NUMBERS? >> 59 IN STATE APPLICANTS. AT

THE VERY BOTTOM. >> THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY

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>> REALLY, IF THERE'S ANYTHING PARTICULAR THE MISSION WANTS ME TO LOOK FOR WHEN I LOOK AT APPLICANTS TO NARROW THEM DOWN I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. I AM OBVIOUSLY GOING TO KNOCK OUT THE ONES THAT DO NOT MEET MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS. SO YOU WON'T HAVE TO BOTHER WITH THOSE, BUT ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR YOU WANT TO SEE, I WOULD TAKE THAT BACK SO I CAN

EVALUATE. >> HAVE YOU BEGUN WHITTLING

DOWN AT ALL? >> I HAVE NOT. WAITING UNTIL THE 15TH AND THEN WE WILL KNOCK OUT ANYBODY WHO DID NOT MEET MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS. I HAVE MY ASSISTANT LOOKING AT THOSE SO SHE STARTED REVIEWING. WE HAVE NOT MADE FORMAL DECISIONS.

SHE WILL PRESENT THAT AND WE WILL GO OVER THEM TOGETHER.

>> BASED ON YOUR PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE ARE THESE NUMBERS

PRETTY GOOD? >> THESE ARE PRETTY GOOD FOR THE FACT THAT WE DID NOT DO A NATIONWIDE SEARCH. YOU'VE GOT QUITE A FEW APPLICANTS. AS A LOOK AT THEM YOU HAVE QUITE A FEW APPLICANTS FROM PORT ST. LUCIE, HOPE SOME, VERO BEACH, SEBASTIAN. THEY ARE ALL WITHIN AROUND HERE FOR LOCAL SEARCH.

YOU DO HAVE, I'VE NEVER EVEN HEARD OF THE CITY.

>> THAT IS IN PALM BEACH COUNTY.

>> I'M FROM NORTH-CENTRAL FLORIDA. WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT APPLIED FROM MANHATTAN, KANSAS WHICH IS INTERESTING. SOMEBODY FROM CONNECTICUT AND NEW MEXICO. SO THAT HAS BEEN GOOD SINCE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE NOT REALLY ADVERTISED NATIONALLY.

WE HAVE PUT IT ON THE LINKEDIN PROFILE AND STUFF LIKE THAT , BUT THAT IS A PRETTY GOOD APPLICANT POOL.

>> I THINK THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. >> I THINK MAYBE WE START WITH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROCESS FROM YOUR STANDPOINT , MAYBE HELPING US UNDERSTAND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? OBVIOUSLY YOU LOOK AT THE APPLICATION AND MAKE AN ASSESSMENT OF IS THIS PERSON QUALIFIED? SOMETHING IN THE BACKGROUND WILL TELL YOU IF THEY HAVE THE APTITUDE TO BE A CITY MANAGER BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING TO HIRE A PERSON TO BE THE CEO OF THE CITY. THEY RUN DAILY OPERATIONS OF NEARLY 400 PEOPLE OR MORE. 400 PEOPLE. SO, THERE'S A CERTAIN PEDIGREE ON A RESUME THAT WILL TELL YOU IF THEY HAVE THOSE CAPABILITIES OF RUNNING SOMETHING THIS LARGE.

63 MILLION, RIGHT. HOW ARE YOU APPROACHING THAT IF I MAY ASK?

>> IF I CAN ANSWER THAT DIRECTLY THE WAY I WOULD LOOK AT IT. I WILL KIND OF USE MY CELL FOR EXAMPLE. I CAME FROM A LARGER CITY TO A SMALLER CITY. WE HAD 1150 EMPLOYEES WAS 70 SOMETHING THOUSAND RESIDENTS. A FULL-SERVICE CITY FIRE, POLICE, GOLF COURSE, AIRPORT, WE HAD AN ELECTRIC COMPANY. WE WENT OUT , WATER AND SEWER, WE WERE A FULL BLOWN , FULL-SERVICE CITY. WHEN WE WENT TO LOOK FOR CITY MANAGER WE WANTED SOMEBODY WITH SOME OF THE SKILL SETS FOR WHAT OUR CITY WAS. DID NOT WANT SOMEBODY FROM , DID YOU SAY TEQUESTA , FLORIDA MAYBE HAD 20,000 RESIDENTS AND DID NOT HAVE POLICE OR FIRE. SO WE COMPARE THAT TO A SIMILAR SIZED CITY. ALSO EXPERIENCE IN WHAT THEY DID TO CHANGE THE CITY, BUT WAS SUCCESSES? WE WANTED SOMEBODY WHO COULD IMPROVE WITH A PROVEN TRACK RECORD. HOW CAN YOU COME TO THE CITY AND MAKE US , TAKE AND GROW IT? WE ALSO LOOKED FOR EXPERIENCE. AT THE CITY WE DID NOT WANT SOMEBODY WITH NO MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCE. YOU HAD TO BE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER OR A CITY MANAGER FOR A PERIOD OF TIME AND HAVE THAT EXPLAINS OTHERWISE THE COMMISSION WAS NOT INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT THEM. TO ANSWER THE QUESTION DIRECTLY, THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS I WOULD SAY I HAVE USED IN THE PAST.

>> ALSO CAN I CHIME IN? THE CITY MANAGER DESIGNATION , IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD , IF THEY DID NOT HAVE THAT IS THAT

SOMETHING YOU WOULD ELIMINATE? >> NOT NECESSARY BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE THAT DESIGNATION, BUT I WOULD GIVE THEM TIME. THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US SO I WOULD GIVE THEM A

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>> OKAY. >> A TARGET NUMBER OF , WE HAVE 63 CANDIDATES, TO HAVE A TARGET NUMBER YOU'RE LOOKING TO

WHITTLE THE LIST DOWN TO? >> I WOULD SAY BETWEEN EIGHT AND 10 AS A GOOD TARGET NUMBER, FROM THERE WE WOULD SHORTLIST

AGAIN DOWN. >> SO THE COMMISSION WOULD SHORT, HE WOULD DO THE FIRST AND WE WOULD DO THE SECOND?

>> WHAT I AM SAYING IS WE WOULD TAKE WHATEVER FEEDBACK AND NARROW DOWN FROM LET'S SAY 63 DOWN TO 40 PEOPLE THAT ARE TRULY ELIGIBLE AND THEN YOU WOULD LOOK AT THOSE AND YOU COULD HAVE DISCUSSION AT YOUR JANUARY 6 MEETING AND YOU GUYS WOULD BASICALLY WHITTLE DOWN 8 TO 10 PEOPLE THAT YOU WANT TO INTERVIEW. IF YOU COME UPON AGREEMENT I WOULD SET OF THE ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEWS AND THEN WE WOULD PUT THEM THROUGH. THAT WOULD TAKE A GOOD DAY TO GO THROUGH.

>> 10 INTERVIEWS IS A FULL DAY. >> THE ONES I HAVE DONE IN THE PAST ON DIFFERENT THINGS WAS MORE LIKE FIVE.

>> THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. YOU CAN GO DOWN MORE IF YOU WANT.

TYPICALLY WHEN YOU DO A SEARCH FIRM , THEY WOULD GO DOWN TO WHAT THEY PRESENT. THAT HAVE ONE-ON-ONE CONVERSATIONS AND GET THEM DOWN TO SIX PEOPLE AND THEN YOU INTERVIEW AND MAKE

YOUR CHOICE. >> THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

>> I WOULD CERTAINLY BE WILLING TO HELP ANYWAY I CAN IF YOU WANT ME ACTIVE IN THE PROCESS. THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HERE WITH YOU GUYS SO I WOULD TAKE ANY FEEDBACK WITH ANY DIRECTION.

>> NOT A MAYOR? >> YES SIR.

>> YES I THINK THOSE ARE THE QUALITIES THAT YOU LISTED I WOULD BE BEHIND AND I THINK THIS IS A HUGE DECISION. WITH THAT , WE ARE NOT HARD-PRESSED AT THIS HARD DATE . THE LAST COMMISSION MEETING. SHOULD WE GET TO THAT POINT AND WE CANNOT WHITTLE THE LIST DOWN FURTHER AND WE NEED TO TAKE A COUPLE WEEKS TO FURTHER REVIEW, I THINK HAVING THAT FLIGHTS ABILITY , THIS IS A BIG DECISION.

>> WE ARE THE ONES WHO SET THE TIMELINE.

>> I WANT TO AT LEAST POINT THAT OUT.

>> THAT WAS CHOSEN BECAUSE THAT'S THE DATE THAT THE OFFICIAL TERMINATION AND THE COUNCIL WANTED OR WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE A POSITION IN PLACE. LIKE YOU MENTION.

>> WE HOPE FOR THAT, RIGHT. >> ADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER YOU BROUGHT UP ONE OF THE POINTS I WAS GOING TO MAKE. THE DAY IS THE NINTH? SO THAT'S SIX MORE DAYS? THIS NUMBER COULD REALLY GROW FROM 63 WITHIN THOSE DAYS. SO WE COULD BE LOOKING AT OTHER NUMBERS. SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING. SECOND THING I WAS GOING TO SAY WITH THESE DATES , I LOVE THE DATES.

AS COMMISSIONER TAYLOR JUST SAID I'M NOT REALLY DATE DRIVEN MYSELF BECAUSE WHATEVER DECISION WE MAKE , THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT DECISION THAT WE NEED TO MAKE AND YOU KNOW WE NEED TO TAKE OUR TIME AND DO IT. ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD REQUEST. I WOULD LIKE YOUR STAFF TO DO, WHEN YOU ARE MAKING THOSE REDUCTIONS , WHEN YOU'RE MAKING THOSE REDUCTIONS , AND I KNOW YOU PROBABLY WILL ANYWAY. BUT I'M GOING TO SAY IT. KEEP A LOG OR SOME TYPE OF REASON WHY THAT DEDUCTION WAS MADE IN CASE A QUESTION CAME UP. BECAUSE A QUESTION CAME UP THAT WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING TO FALL BACK ON TO SAY THIS IS WHY, INSTEAD OF SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE'VE GOT, THIS IS WHY. IT DON'T HAVE TO COME OUT IN PUBLIC, BUT JUST SO THE MADAM ATTORNEY COULD HAVE IT OR WHATEVER. SAYING THAT, I WILL HELP YOU OUT. WHOEVER APPLIES FROM TEQUESTA, YOU'RE STILL IN THE RUNNING. I KNOW WE SAID TODAY , BUT YOU ARE STILL IN THE RUNNING. DON'T KNOW YOUR NAME I DON'T WANT TO KNOW YOUR NAME, BUT YOU SAID THAT SO JUST BECAUSE, YES. TEQUESTA IS SMALL BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN YOU MAY NOT BE A PERSON THAT CAN HANDLE THE JOB WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT I'VE GOT YOUR. DON'T PUT THAT

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ARE SAYING THIS. >> YOU ARE CORRECT. LIKE WE MENTIONED WE HAVE NOT EVEN BEGUN GOING THROUGH THE

APPLICATIONS. >> I'M GLAD YOU SAY THAT. I'M BEING HONEST, 2025 I'M NOT GOING TO BE IN THE MOOD FOR SOME OF THE STUFF. SOME OF THE STUFF WE WERE ACCUSED OF INPUT

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>> WELL SAID, WELL SAID. THERE IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE THAT AND WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO FEED INTO THAT UNNECESSARILY, I TOTALLY AGREE AND I APPRECIATE YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THAT.

ANYBODY ELSE? >> A FOLLOW-UP COMMENT. I HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING IN BUSINESS 30 YEARS AND I'M THE WORST PERSONNEL MANAGER ON THE PLANET. SO I AM LOOKING. AND I TELL MY STAFF THAT AND THEY'RE LIKE YES YOU ARE. MY POINT IN THAT IS THAT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE I AM RELYING ON YOUR EXPERTISE. TO VET THE PROCESS, ALL OF THE COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONER GAINES RELATED TO TRANSPARENCY OF THE PROCESS ET CETERA WE ARE RELYING ON YOU TO KEEP US BETWEEN THE GUARDRAILS. TO NOT DO ANYTHING INAPPROPRIATE AND TO MAKE IT AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE. I NEED ALL THE HELP YOU CAN PROVIDE COMING FROM YOU SO I'M ASKING FOR THAT PARTICIPATION AND YOU SAID I WILL PARTICIPATE AS MUCH AS YOU WANT. AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED YOU WILL BE IN ENTER EVERY VIEW. WE NEED YOUR EXPERTISE IS THE HR DIRECTOR TO STEP INTO THAT ROLE AND ASSIST US IN GETTING US THE PROCESS. NOT SAY MAKE THE DECISION NECESSARILY BUCKET TO THE PROCESS APPROPRIATELY, IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT AND MISS HEDGES AS WELL. I KNOW YOUR OFFICE IS INVOLVED SO I'M RELYING ON YOU TWO, TO KEEP US FOCUSED AND KEEP THE PROCESS BETWEEN THE

GUARDRAILS. THAT'S MY REQUEST. >> I APPRECIATE THAT AND LOOK FORWARD TO THAT AND I WILL ASSIST AND DO IT YOU ARE

ASKING. >> 10 CANDIDATES WITH 50 INTERVIEWS THAT CAN GET A LITTLE THORNY.

>> WE CAN GET THAT DOWN IF WE WANT, DOWN TO BETWEEN SIX AND EIGHT. THAT'S A DECISION WE CAN MAKE AS YOU LOOK AT THE APPLICATIONS AND START TO SEE YOU KNOW, THE EXPERIENCE THAT THEY HAVE , WE CAN NARROW DOWN 6 TO 8.

>> NEITHER ONE OF YOU WERE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS OF SELECTING THE CITY ATTORNEY AND SARAH WAS A SUCCESSFUL CANDIDATE. THAT PROCESS WAS MESSY. IT WAS NOT CLEAN OR MANAGED WELL. I DON'T WANT A REPEAT. I KNOW NEITHER ONE OF

YOU WERE INVOLVED IN THAT. >> THAT'S NO BEARING ON THE

SELECTION . >> THE BEST CANDIDATE ROSE TO THE TOP , SHE ROSE TO THE TOP OF THE PILE AND WAS SELECTED AND I'M THRILLED WITH THAT SELECTION AS OF TODAY. YOU CAN SEE MY POINT, I WANT TO KEEP US ON TRACK AND KEEP MOVING.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON AND THEN COMMISSIONER TAYLOR.

>> I WANT TO QUICKLY AND ECHO AS A CERTIFIED PERSON I HAVE SEEN A DRASTIC DIFFERENCE WITH THAT AND I'M GLAD THAT LEVEL OF PROFESSIONALISM IS RISING IN HOW WE HANDLE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES. IT IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART AS SOMETHING THAT'S IN MY BACKGROUND. AS YOU PUT THE PACKET TOGETHER FOR WHAT'S HELPFUL PARTICULARLY TAKING ABOUT COMMISSIONER GAINES AND THE UPPER THOUGHT HE HAS SUGGESTED A LIST OF QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN WORK FROM SO IF IT DOES COME UP WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO THE PUBLIC, AFTERWARD. WE DO NOT PROVIDE THAT UPFRONT THAT WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS SO WE MAKE SURE WE STAY IN THE GUARDRAILS AND TACKLE THE QUESTIONS THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD TAKE THE RESPONSE YOU WOULD EXPECT FROM A PERSON LOOKING TO BE THE CEO OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. SO I WOULD LIKE FOR THAT TO BE PART OF THE PACKET AND I THINK OBVIOUSLY, MISS HEDGES, YOU ARE BRIEFING TO US FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE THINGS WE CAN AND CANNOT ASK. JUST TO PUT THAT PART OF THE PACKET AS WELL, THAT'S MY EXPECTATION.

>> YES OR. MADAME MAYOR I KNOW COMMISSIONER TAYLOR HAS A FEW THINGS. A FEW THINGS BASED ON COMMISSIONER GAINES AND WHAT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON HAS SAID. I HAVE STATED BEFORE, BUT TO BE CLEAR MISS COX IS NOT INVOLVED AT ALL , HR REPORTS TO ME FOR THIS PROCESS. WE HAVE A FIREWALL ON ALL OF THIS, SHE IS

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FOR EXAMPLE WHEN WE ARE SEARCHING FOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY OBVIOUSLY YOU NEED A BAR LICENSE. WE HAD SOME APPLICANTS WHO DID NOT HAVE A BAR LICENSE SOME CERTAIN PEOPLE WILL APPLY WHO DO NOT MEET MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS. IN MY CASE, LEGALLY TO DO THE JOB BUT THAT'S WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT WITH KNOCKING SOMEONE OUT WHO IS NOT QUALIFIED. MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED TO DO THE JOB. OBVIOUSLY, IF THEY ARE KNOCKED OUT, THAT WILL BE KEPT AS TO WHY, BUT ANY APPLICATIONS WE PROVIDE , IF WE KNOCK SOMEONE OUT AND YOU THINK YOU WANT TO INTERVIEW THEM THEN WE WILL TAKE THE DIRECTION YOU GIVE US. SO WHAT I WOULD ASK MR. SORENSON TO DO ONCE HE WHITTLES DOWN IS TO KEEP A GROUP THAT ARE QUALIFIED AND UNQUALIFIED. WE WILL PROVIDE YOU THOSE SO YOU CAN SEE WHO IT IS WHEN YOU ARE MAKING DECISIONS ON WHO YOU WOULD LIKE TO INTERVIEW AND AGAIN THE ANTICIPATED DATE FOR THAT DECISION IS JANUARY 6. SO AS SOON AS THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH WHO IS QUALIFIED AND NOT WE WILL GET THOSE TO YOU AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO YOU HAVE PLENTY OF TIME AHEAD OF THE MEETING TO REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS SO YOU ARE INFORMED WHEN MAKING YOUR DECISION AT THAT DATE. I THINK THAT ADDRESSES THE ISSUES I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE CLARIFIED.

>> ONE MORE THING ON TOP OF THAT. I AM DEPUTY CITY MANAGER , I AM NOT GOING TO HIM FOR THIS PROCESS. I AM WORKING DIRECTLY WITH MISS HEDGES. I REPORT DIRECTLY TO HIM.

>> BUT ON THIS YOU ARE REPORTING .

>> I HAVE WORKED DIRECTLY WITH MISS HEDGES ON CREATING THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY AND WORKING THROUGH HOW WE PRESENT

SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR.

>> JUST A COMMENT ON THE SHORT LIST MOVING FROM 10, TO SIX OR EIGHT. I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE BASED ON QUALITY OF APPLICANTS.

IF WE NEED TO DO 12 THEN LET'S DO 12. IT IS IMPORTANT EVERYBODY THAT'S QUALIFIED , THEY'RE GIVEN A FAIR SHOT OF OUR INTERVIEW PROCESS SO KEEPING THAT IN MIND WE SHOULD NOT BE LIMITING OURSELVES OR THE APPLICANTS.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS WE DISCUSSED IS IF THERE IS AN APPLICANT ONE PERSON WANTS TO INTERVIEW WITH THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT EVERYONE INTERVIEW. WE DON'T WANT TO EXCLUDE ANYONE FROM THE PROCESS THAT ANYONE CONSIDERS A POTENTIAL APPROPRIATE INDIVIDUAL TO LEAD THE CITY .

THAT WILL BE A DISCUSSION YOU HAVE IN THE MEETING YOU WILL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE RECOMMENDATION. IF THERE IS AN INDIVIDUAL THAT EVEN ONE PERSON WANTS TO INTERVIEW, WE WOULD RECOMMEND EVERYONE INTERVIEW THAT PERSON SO EVERYONE IS GIVEN A FAIR OPPORTUNITY.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> I'M GLAD WE HAD THIS

DISCUSSION. >> THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP. I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS .

>> THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISION WE WILL MAKE.

>> IT IS IMPORTANT, ABSOLUTELY. I AM VERY PLEASED WITH THE

NUMBER OF APPLICANTS. >> LAST TAKEAWAY QUESTION IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE CHANGED ON THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY OR ANYTHING ADDITIONAL ? ARE YOU GOOD WITH THE FORMAT? IF SO I WILL KEEP THE FORMAT AND KEEP UPDATING THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY AS WE GO. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE FEEDBACK.

>> THANK YOU FOR A PROFESSIONAL JOB GUYS. THINKING IT THROUGH AND THINKING IN ADVANCE AND THINKING ABOUT THE TRANSPARENCY AND FAIRNESS THAT WE WANT THIS TO BE. IT IS IMPORTANT AND WE WANT IT TO BE FAIR AND ALL THOSE KEEP AN OPEN MIND AND YOU WILL HELP US TO DO THAT. THANK YOU.

[12. City Commission Boards and Committees Updates]

OKAY. >> NEXT ITEM IS CITY COMMISSION

BOARDS AND COMMITTEES UPDATES. >> WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO START?

>> I WILL START. OKAY COMMISSION , COMMISSIONER BRODERICK WE JUST GOT AN EMAIL THAT THE RETIREMENT BOARD IS CANCELED FOR NEXT WEEK. SO WE DO NOT MEET UNTIL JANUARY SO THAT'S MY REPORT ON THE RETIREMENT BOARD. WE HEARD ,

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>> SHE HELP YOU OUT. >> YES. TREASURE COAST COUNCIL.

LOCAL GOVERNMENT I THINK WE MEET AGAIN IN JANUARY. THERE WAS A LUNCHEON AND I WAS SOMEWHERE. ONE THING, WE LIKE TO MEET AND EAT DOUGHNUTS AND GO TO LUNCH.

>> WE DON'T HAVE JOEL ANYMORE, BUT THE BOARD HAS COME ALONG AND AGAIN WE VOTED TO SUPPORT THE CITIES AND THEIR LEGISLATIONS. THEIR PRIORITIES SO WE WILL SIGN OFF EVERYBODY WILL SIGN OFF OUR BOARD WILL SIGN OFF AND SUBMIT TO EACH MAYOR AND LET YOU HAVE THAT MOVING FORWARD. COUNCIL ON AGING WE DID NOT MEET BECAUSE OF THE QUORUM AND THAT'S FINE, THE ROUNDTABLE. SHE DID GO, I FORGOT WHAT SHE TOLD ME. I DID NOT FORGET. THEY ARE MEETING ABOUT , THIS IS WHY I BROUGHT IT UP TODAY. THEY WANT TO TRY TO HELP WITH , THE DISCUSSION WITH CRIME AND YOUTH IN FORT PIERCE AND WHAT THEY CAN DO TO HELP US WITH THAT AND THAT'S WHY THEY WANTED ONE OF US ON THE BOARD TO SEE WHERE WE NEEDED TO HELP SO THAT'S WHAT THE MEETING WAS ABOUT. WE MENTIONED THE RETIREMENT BOARD.

HOMELESS ADVISORY WE WILL MEET ON THE 18TH . THE AD HOC COMMITTEE WILL DO A PRESENTATION ON THE 16TH AND WE WILL TAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THIS BOARD , FOR YOU GUYS ONCE WE GET THE RECOMMENDATION. IF YOU WANT US TO LOOK AT ONE OF THE STATUTES AND FOCUS ON THAT AREA FOR THE NEXT YEAR THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK. AND I WAS TOLD TODAY THAT THE TREASURE COAST EDUCATION RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY IS GOING AWAY.

>> THEY ARE SELLING THE PROPERTY.

>> I HAVE NO REPORT, NEVER MET SO I HAVE NO REPORT.

>> EVERY ONCE IN WHILE YOU GET A GIFT.

>> SO THAT'S MY COMMUNITY AND COMMITTEE UPDATE .

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BRODERICK.

>> WELL, COMMISSIONER GAINES REPORTED ON RETIREMENT BOARD. I APPRECIATE THE COMMISSION TAKING TIME TO GET THE REPORT FROM THE FINANCE DIRECTOR. I BELIEVE THIS INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE MORE CONSISTENT TO THIS BODY. FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE CITY RETIREMENT FUND IS FOUR TIMES THE SIZE OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET. A LOT OF MONEY HANGING OUT THERE.

COMMISSIONER GAINES AND I TAKE IT SERIOUSLY OUTDOES THE BOARD BUT THIS COMMISSION IS TO BE MORE IN THE FLOW OF INFORMATION COMING OUT OF THOSE MEETINGS. A PARKING COMMITTEE , I KNOW YOU GET EXCITED ABOUT PARKING. PARKING COMMITTEE WILL BE COMING TO THE COMMISSION IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE TO RAPPORT ON SEVERAL ITEMS. WE HAVE A MEETING WEDNESDAY THAT THE PLANNING DIRECTOR WILL BE IN ATTENDANCE AT, I BELIEVE PEGGY WILL BE THERE AS WELL RELATIVE TO A VARIETY OF ISSUES. ONE OF THE UNIQUE ISSUES THE PARKING COMMITTEE IS LOOKING AT IS A REQUIREMENT TO CHANGE THE CURRENT CODE OF THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT WHICH CURRENTLY REQUIRES NO PARKING FOR ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION TO REQUIRE PARKING FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION AND THERE APPEARS TO BE A DIFFERENCE, A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE OF OPINION AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL HENCE THE REASON WE HAVE MR. FREEMAN COME TO GIVE US HIS SLANT ON THIS WHICH I BELIEVE IS DIFFERENT FROM THE ARGUMENTS IN THE COMMITTEE. WE WILL REPORT ON THAT IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. SUNRISE ADVISORY BOARD WE HAVE DISCUSSED TODAY AND THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

>> MAIN STREET IS AN APARTMENT COMMITTEE, THEY HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE? OKAY. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

>> LINKIN PARK MAIN STREET , THEY MET IN OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER 13, NEXT MEETING IS COMING UP THIS COMING THURSDAY. I DON'T THINK I WILL BE THERE FOR THAT ONE BUT I DO GET UPDATES .

CHRISTMAS ON MOORE CREEK IS DECEMBER 14 SO THAT'S A BIG EVENT. IF YOU CAN ON THE CORNER OF AVENUE DUNN AND SEVENTH OR

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THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION AND WE SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THE AGREEMENT WITH THEM AND THE AGREEMENT FOR HOUSING IS COMING UP FOR DISCUSSION SO I WOULD IMPLORE US TO BEGIN GETTING AN UNDERSTANDING AROUND THAT BECAUSE THAT WILL COME UP FOR DISCUSSION WITH THEIR PHYSICAL LOCATION. NEXT MEETING I HAVE ALREADY TALKED. OTHER THAN THAT YOU KNOW LINKIN PARK MAIN STREET IS MAKING GREAT STRIDES WITH SOME MONIES IN THE BUDGET AND THEY CONTINUE TO DO THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY. NEXT THE FIRE BOARD, WE JUST HAD REELECTION THERE, I WAS ELECTED AS CHAIR OF THE FIRE BOARD AND I THINK THE VICE CHAIR IS SHANNON MARTIN THE MAYOR . WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS AND I THINK AS WE ALL KNOW, OUR CITY OR COUNTY IS GROWING WHICH WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL FIRE APPARATUS TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THE NEEDS. SO THAT'S ALREADY ON THE AGENDA, LOOKING AT HOW WE CONTINUE TO GROW AND BE RESPONSIBLE WITH THAT AND FINDING THE FUNDS TO DO THAT, IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE TO BUILD FIRE HOUSES AND EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE TO GET THE EQUIPMENT TO GO IN. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE ONGOING WITH THE FIRE BOARD. THE FIRE BOARD ALSO IS , WE HAVE GREAT AMBASSADORS , FIREFIGHTERS AND THEY ARE DOING A LOT OF REMARKABLE THINGS IN ALSO AWARD-WINNING ATHLETES, CHAMPIONS, GLOBAL AND NATIONAL CHAMPIONS AND SETTING WORLD RECORDS. SO WE HAVE A GREAT FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE MORALE IS GREAT, DOING EXTREMELY WELL AND CAPTAIN LEE IS CONTINUING TO CARRY THAT ORGANIZATION FORWARD. THEY WILL BE PARTICIPATING DECEMBER 14 AT THE RUFUS ALEXANDER TOY DRIVE AT THE PERCY PEAK JIM . ON THE 21ST I'M SORRY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. A LOT GOING ON WITH SOME OF THE CONFLICTS ON THE 14TH. THE PARADE IS ON THE 14TH. I WILL SWITCH OVER, TPO. WE HAD A ORGANIZATION MEETING. I SEE IT IN THE CHAIR POSITION AND WE'VE GOT ASSIGNMENTS, THE TPO BOARD IS , WELL PORT ST. LUCIE, STAY CONSISTENT COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, ON THERE NOW AND WE OF THE SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVE THERE NOW. AND COMMISSIONER LOWERY NOW SO THEY HAVE TWO OR THREE NEW FACES ON THE BOARD. WE HELD ELECTIONS THERE. THE VICE CHAIR OF THE SCHOOL BOARD AND IT'S THE SCHOOL BOARD'S TURN TO BE THERE. SO WE DID COMMITTED RASSIGNMENTS. PEDIGREE PRESENTATION FROM D.O.T. A LOT OF DISCUSSION WAS HELD ABOUT ACCESS ROADS OFF OF MIDWAY ROAD TO THE TURNPIKE AND IT GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK AS TO BOTH NOT ONLY THE FUNDING, BUT THE ACTUAL ACCESS ROAD BEING NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND AND TRYING TO GET THE FUNDING FOR THE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC IN BOTH DIRECTIONS. NOW IT'S ONLY FUNDED TO BE SOUTHBOUND ON TO THE TURNPIKE, NORTHBOUND I'M SORRY, NORTHBOUND IN THE SOUTHBOUND IS WHAT'S IN QUESTION. EMERGENCY VEHICLES WILL HAVE ACCESS TO BOTH ACCESS POINTS TO GET ON THE TURNPIKE TO DEAL WITH THAT STUFF. IT IS A ROBUST DISCUSSION, WE HAD DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FUTURISTIC PLANNING OF ROADS AND ROADWAYS, FOR THE MAJOR ROADS LIKE JENKINS AND HARLEM, ALL OF THAT STUFF IS COMING UP AND WE INTO PUT IN PROCESS AND PLANS AND PLACEMENT FOR GETTING PROJECTS ON THE AGENDA. SO, COMMISSIONER BRODERICK I WELCOME YOU. THERE WILL BE A LOT OF ACRONYMS. WE ARE TALKING 10 OR 15 YEARS AHEAD OF WHAT WE THINK WE NEED GETTING THAT NOT ONLY ON THE RADAR, BUT FUNDED AND THAT'S THE EYE OPENING PART, YOU'RE TRYING TO FUND PROJECTS STARTING IN 2025. THE OTHER ONE, LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE. I DID MAKE LAST TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL THERE WAS A CONFLICT THERE, BUT THAT WILL BE SOMETHING AS YOU MOVE FORWARD COMMISSIONER TAYLOR YOU HAVE GREAT FUN WITH THE ATLANTA COUNCIL AND I KNOW THEY HELD A

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>> OKAY, COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. ANYTHING TO SAY? YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING IF YOU DON'T WANT TO.

>> I AM ON MAIN STREET SO I CAN TALK ABOUT THAT, FORT PIERCE MAIN STREET. THE PARADE WAS A HUGE SUCCESS. WE ARE BACK TO THE PRE-COVID NUMBERS AS FAR AS PARADE ENTRIES WITH 97, WE HAD 94 REGISTERED AND THREE SHOWED UP THE DAY OF. SO WE MADE IT WORK. IF YOU HAVE NOT MET THE CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING BOARD, ABSOLUTELY A ROCKSTAR PUTTING ON THAT EVENT. UNBELIEVABLE LOGISTICS INVOLVED WITH PARKING AND STAGING AND WE HAD 2200 PEOPLE IN THE PARADE. SO IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE, THE HUMAN OF LOGISTICS HE GOES THROUGH AND GETS IT ORGANIZED AND PREPARED SO KUDOS TO HIM FOR PULLING IT OFF, YET AGAIN. MAIN STREET, WE WILL BE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE START OF THE NEW YEAR'S EVE FIREWORKS DISPLAY AND PARTY SO THAT'S THE NEXT BIG EVENT WE HAVE FOR MAIN STREET. SO I AM EXCITED TO CONTINUE TO BE ON THAT BOARD AND LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

>> GOOD. LINKIN PARK MAIN STREET , WE PARTICIPATED IN THE PARADE AND THEY HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF THINGS TOGETHER SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING. THAT'S A GOOD THING. AND KIWANIS, ANTON IS KIWANIS. COMING UP 100 NEXT YEAR?

>> 2026. >> THE ROTARY IS THIS YEAR.

OKAY. SO THE GALA IS THURSDAY EVENING. MY COMMITTEE, THE FLORIDA MUNICIPAL INSURANCE TRUST WILL MEET IN TAMPA THIS FRIDAY. I JUST GOT THE BOOK I'VE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT SO I CANNOT TELL YOU WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING, BUT IT WILL BE ABOUT THE EFFECT OF THE HURRICANES HELENE AND MILTON AND GOING FORWARD WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT YEAR. THE FORT PIERCE UTILITY AUTHORITY WE HAD RESIGNATION OF ONE OF OUR MEMBERS SO THIS COMMISSION WILL BE CALLED UPON TO APPOINT A NEW MEMBER. SOON. THAT WAS DOWN A BOARD MEMBER. WE WILL HAVE IT AT THE NEXT MEETING WITH A NEW ATTORNEY THAT WE HIRED RECENTLY, SO STEPHANIE NAME ] BELIEVE, HOW YOU PRONOUNCE HER LAST NAME SO SHE WILL START WITH US AT THE NEXT MEETING. TREASURE COAST REGIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES, WE JUST CAME BACK FROM LEGISLATIVE CONFERENCE AND COMMISSIONER JOHNSON WAS THE CHAIR OF A POLICY COMMITTEE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. A GOOD JOB, GAVE A GOOD REPORT SO NOW THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITY HAS POLICIES SET AND AS SOON AS THEY PUBLISH THOSE WE WILL BRING THEM TO THE COMMISSION AND WE CAN SIGN OFF AND SUPPORT THOSE.

>> WHAT I SAID.'S TALK EXACTLY. I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID AND YOU DID WHAT YOU SAID, YOU WERE SUCCESSFUL. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND SO, THIS , IN DECEMBER, THE MEETING OF TREASURE COAST LEAGUE WILL BE AT THE PELICAN YACHT CLUB AND WE WILL BE INSTALLING OFFICERS THE CHAIRMAN WILL BE HERE TO INSTALL OFFICERS AND I WILL BE THE NEW PRESIDENT OF THE LEAGUE. SO WE ARE ALL INVITED. INCLUDING MISS COX. SO, THAT IS DECEMBER 18 AT THE PELICAN YACHT CLUB AND YOU HEARD ABOUT THE FIRE DISTRICT BUILDING THREE NEW FIRE STATIONS RIGHT NOW. ONE IN SOUTH COUNTY IN THE TRADITION AREA. ONE OFF OF KINGS HIGHWAY AND ONE RIGHT NOW BY THE CURRENT OFFICE OF THE FIRE DISTRICT. SO BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH WE WILL PROBABLY NEED MORE SOON. NEED MORE FIREFIGHTERS. SO WITH THAT , YES OR. SMOKE IF IT IS NOT ROBBERY AND YOUR CALENDAR IS

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LOT . OTHER CITIES. >> IMPORTANT INSTALLATION.

SMOKE IMPORTANT AND TO BE HERE IF YOU CAN CLEAR CALENDARS, I'M CLEARING MY CALENDAR SO I WILL BE THERE TO SUPPORT YOU.

>> THANK YOU. YOU WILL GET TO MEET MAYOR BLAKE. QUITE A GUY.

>> WHEN YOU MEET HIM YOU'LL NEVER FORGET HIM.

>> RIGHT, SO HE IS A TREAT IN AND OF HIMSELF.

I THINK HE IS A COACH ISN'T HE? DID YOU WANT TO SAY

SOMETHING? >> I DID. AS FOR THE FP UA APPOINTMENT A LOT OF TIMES WE HAVE A TWO-STEP PROCESS WHERE WE HAVE APPLICATIONS AND THEN YOU MAKE DECISION AT A FOLLOWING MEETING. I THINK THEY'RE ANXIOUS TO GET SOMEONE APPOINTED SO IF YOU HAVE NO OBJECTION WE ARE SOLICITING APPLICATIONS ONLINE NOW AND WE WILL BRING THIS TO YOU AT THE JANUARY 6 MEETING AND WE WILL ASK IF YOU VOTE ON IT IN THAT TIME UNLESS SOMETHING HAPPENS AND YOU NEED TO POSTPONE IT, BUT THE VERY VERY ANXIOUS TO GET THAT APPOINTMENT MADE.

>> FINE WITH ME. >> ARE YOU PUTTING DECEMBER 18

ON THE CALENDAR? >> IT'S ALREADY THERE.

>> THANK YOU. I THINK YOU HAVE TO RSVP.

>> ANYTHING ELSE , IF NOT WE ARE ADJOURNED.

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