[6. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject on this agenda may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Chairperson, as this section of the Agenda is limited to fifteen minutes. The FPRA Board will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Chairperson, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

GANGS, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, COMMISSIONER TAYLOR, COMMISSIONER BRODRICK, CHAIRWOMAN HUDSON?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> NEXT ITEM IS COMMENTS FROM

THE PUBLIC. >> ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC QUESTIONING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU WILL HAVE A 10 SECOND

MORNING. WELCOME. >> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS ADOLFO CAVALLI, LEAVITT 32 SOUTHWEST IN PORT ST. LUCIE, FLORIDA. GOOD EVENING , MATTA MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, AND MEMBERS OF FPRA BOARD. I AM THE TRANSIT DIRECTOR HERE IN ST.

LUCIE COUNTY FOR THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. I AM HERE TODAY IN FRONT OF YOU TO SUPPORT THE ADDING OF AN ADDITIONAL VEHICLE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE CONTRACT FOR THE SERVICES CURRENTLY PROVIDED . I BELIEVE THAT IS THE THIRD OPTION UNDER ITEM CAPITAL EIGHT 8CB BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. THE COUNTY'S TRANSIT SYSTEM CONTINUES TO SEE AN INCREASE IN RIDERSHIP EVERY YEAR WITH THE COUNTY OF NEARLY 600 MILES, IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE CONNECTIVITY FOR OUR RESIDENTS . I RECENTLY MET A LOCAL BUSINESS IN DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE IN THE FREEBIE ZONE THAT HAD TROUBLE GETTING EMPLOYEES TO WORK. THEY SAID, YOUR BUS DOES NOT GET TO OUR LOCATION IN ONE PARTICULAR EMPLOYEE LIVES IN NORTHERN FORT PIERCE. THIS EMPLOYEE WAS AN ART TRANSIT RIDE AND A FREEBIE RIDE FROM MEETING THEIR NEEDS. OVER THE LAST ONE HALF YEARS, WITH AREA REGIONAL TRANSIT, ACTUALLY SEE THE NEED FOR RELIABLE TRANSPORTATION FOR OUR RESIDENTS. RECENTLY, WE REBRANDED OUR SYSTEM, EDIT MANY NEW VEHICLES, EXTENDED HOURS ON MICRO TRANSIT AND NEW SERVICES. ALL THE COUNTY TRANSIT SERVICES ALONG WITH FREEBIE PROVIDED 7000 TRIPS LAST YEAR TO OUR RESIDENCE. I SAY THIS BECAUSE EVEN WITH ALL OF THIS, IT IS STILL NOT ENOUGH WITH LONGER WAIT TIMES RECENTLY, HAVING AN ADDITIONAL VEHICLE ON THE ROAD WILL PUT RESIDENTS AT EASE HERE TRANSIT SERVICES PROVIDE LICENSE ACTIVITIES AND CONTINUE TO HELP OUR ECONOMY BY GETTING RESIDENTS TO WORK OR STORES, WHICH IN TURN SUPPORTS LOCAL BUSINESSES AND PUTS MONEY BACK

INTO THE ECONOMY. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE, THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE? SURE, PLEASE. ANYONE

[7. CONSENT AGENDA]

ELSE? SEEING NO MOVEMENT, WE WILL RETURN BACK TO THE AGENDA

. >> NEXT ITEM IS THE CONSENT

AGENDA. >> ANY ITEM IN THE BOARD MEMBER WOULD LIKE TO PULL ? IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MATTA MAYOR? I'M SORRY. I DON'T WANT TO PULL. I JUST HAVE A GENERAL COMMENT . THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CHANGE ORDERS FOR THE HIGHWAYMEN MUSEUM. MAYBE I WILL PULL THE MAJORITY OF MY-- I THINK WE CAN BULK THEM TOGETHER. I WANT TO GET A GENERAL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE WILL FACE HERE AND ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC IS BROUGHT ALONG WITH US. I APPROVE A, B, D, C, D, F , I WANT TO PULL THOSE ITEMS, I'M GOING TO LUMP THEM TOGETHER, THOUGH. WE DON'T HAVE TO COVER THEM INDIVIDUALLY , JUST SOME INDIVIDUAL QUESTIONS TO MAKE

SURE I AM ON TRACK. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A

MOTION? >> MADAM CHAIR, FOR THE SAME

REASON, I WANT TO PULL I. >> I? ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE REST OF THE AGENDA, WHICH IS I THINK G AND H? THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

>> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR . COMMISSIONER BRODRICK .

COMMISSIONER GAINES. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON .

CHAIRWOMAN HUDSON. >> WE ARE INTO DISCUSSION ON

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THESE . >> ARE YOU GOING TO READ THE

[a. Approval of Change Order No. 11 to General Contractor Services-Highway Museum in an amount not to exceed $2,803.70 for the City of Fort Pierce Florida Highwaymen Museum renovation project.]

[b. Approval of Change Order No. 10 to General Contractor Services-Highway Museum in an amount not to exceed $16,578.40 for the City of Fort Pierce Florida Highwaymen Museum renovation project.]

[c. Approval of Change Order No. 9 to General Contractor Services-Highway Museum in an amount not to exceed $9,130.31 for the City of Fort Pierce Florida Highwaymen Museum renovation project.]

[d. Approval of Change Order No. 8 to General Contractor Services-Highway Museum in an amount not to exceed $9,569.15 for the City of Fort Pierce Florida Highwaymen Museum renovation project.]

[e. Approval of Change Order No. 7 to General Contractor Services-Highway Museum in an amount not to exceed $6,338.80 for the City of Fort Pierce Florida Highwaymen Museum renovation project.]

[f. Approval of Change Order No. 4 to General Contractor Services-Highway Museum in an amount not to exceed $37,081.80 for the City of Fort Pierce Florida Highwaymen Museum renovation project.]

CONSENT AGENDA? DON'T READ ALL OF THEM . READ AS ONE.

>> CONSENT AGENDA ITEM A THROUGH F.

>> JUST READ THE FIRST ONE , AND THEN HE WILL--

>> APPROVAL OF CHANGE NUMBER 11 TO GENERAL CONTRACTOR SERVICES HIGHWAY MUSEUM AND THE AMOUNT OF $2803.70 FOR HIGHWAY

DIRECTOR. >> BOARD, THE REASON I PULLED THIS THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT WE ARE VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO BRINGING FORTH IN THAT TOTAL REVITALIZATION THERE. AND I HAVE NOT GOTTEN QUITE AN DATE AS TO THE STATUS OF THAT GRANT THAT IS COVERING IT, BUT IT ALWAYS MAKES ME NERVOUS TO SEE CHANGE ORDERS . I'D LIKE US TO GET A GENERAL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS GOING ON . I HAVEN'T EVEN ADDED THE TOTAL VOLUME OF WHAT IS HERE. TO ME, IT IS RELATIVELY CONCERNING TO SEE THIS MANY, THIS BOOK, AND I'D LIKE TO HAVE AN DISCUSSION FOR UNDERSTANDING, PLEASE.

>> WE HAVE WITH US THIS EVENING CONRAD FORT AND PATRICE MCKNIGHT OF JOURNEY CND CREW, ALONG WITH AUDREY O'MOORE IS THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THIS . IF WE COULD INVITE THEM TO COME FORWARD AND THEY CAN TALK ABOUT THE CHANGE ORDERS THEY'VE

PRESENTED. >> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. THE REASON WHY YOU SEE SO MANY CHANGE ORDERS IS BECOME BECAUSE THAT WAS MY DIRECTION .

I ASKED THE CONTRACTOR TO, JUST ON ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WAS PLANNED, ALL OF THE CHANGES THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE, OR REVISIONS THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE TO BRING THE BUILDING UP TO AND MEET A.D.A. COMPLIANCE , I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD ANTICIPATED ANY CHANGE ORDERS THAT WOULD AFFECT THAT .

SO, I KIND OF PRESSED THEM TO GET IT DONE , IN HOPES THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET ALL OF THESE DOWNS DONE SO WE COULD BE COMPLETE WITH THE PROJECT BY THE END OF DECEMBER. BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE CHANGE ORDERS , THAT HAS EXTENDED IT . BECAUSE I PRESSED THEM, BECAUSE I WANTED US TO MEET THE DEADLINE OF DECEMBER 30TH FOR THE GRANT. THE GRANT HAS BEEN APPROVED TO BE EXTENDED TO JUNE 30TH, 2025. HOWEVER, THE CONTRACTOR HAS ASSURED ME THAT THEY WILL BE COMPLETE JANUARY 30TH, 2025 WITH THE CHANGE ORDERS THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU. MANY OF THE CHANGE ORDERS HAVE TO DO WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE OTHER COMPONENTS, LIKE OUR FIRE SAFETY , FIRE ALARM , OUR SECURITY SYSTEM , THEY ARE WORKING TOGETHER WITH THOSE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, OR COMPANIES IN ORDER TO HELP THEM COMPLETE THEIR PORTION OF THE PROJECT ITSELF . THE BIGGEST ITEM IS THE RENOVATION OF THE THREE BATHROOMS . THERE ARE TWO BATHROOMS ON THE FIRST FLOOR, ONE ON THE SECOND FLOOR , SO THEY HAVE TO MEET A.D.A. COMPLIANCE SO THAT WE CAN GET OUR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY . SO, YOU ARE LOOKING AT A TOTAL OF ABOUT $80,000 IN CHANGE ORDERS , BUT REALLY, THOSE CHANGE ORDERS ARE DUE TO THINGS THAT WERE EITHER ONE, UNANTICIPATED OR MANDATED BECAUSE OF A.D.A. OR BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS NEEDED TO HELP THE OTHER COMPANIES COMPLETE THEIR

PORTION OF THE PROJECT. >> SO, GENERALLY ASKING, THEN , THERE WAS A BUDGET . CHANGE ORDERS ALWAYS MEAN, EITHER WE ARE GOING TO MAKE IT OR NOT MAKE BUDGET . WITH THESE 80,000 PLUS YOU HAVE JUST SPOKEN OF WILL BE MAKE BUDGET ON THIS PROJECT OR WILL WE HAVE OVERRUN?

>> WITH THESE CHANGE ORDERS THAT WAS INITIALLY APPROVED, HOWEVER, I BELIEVE THAT IN ANTICIPATION OF THESE CHANGE ORDERS OR REVISIONS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE TAKEN PLACE, THERE WERE FUNDS SET ASIDE IN THE BUDGET SO THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THESE AS THEY CAME ABOUT .

>> I HEAR WE HAVE A NEW DEADLINE NOW . OUR GOAL IS TO

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HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY BY JANUARY 31ST, 2025. AND PLACE WILL BE OCCUPIED AND HIGHWAY MUSEUM WILL BE OPENED , READY FOR OCCUPANCY. I'M GOING TO STOP RIGHT THERE. I'M CONCERNED WHEN I SEE THIS VOLUME AT THIS LATE IN THE GAME. GOING INTO THIS, JUST KNOWING WE WOULD HAVE HAD A BETTER PLAN, PARTICULARLY WITH A.D.A., THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS ALWAYS A CONCERN TO ME, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE TAKE BUILDINGS LIKE THIS THAT ARE HISTORIC BUILDINGS, AND WE ARE TRYING TO BRING THEM CURRENT. A.D.A. IS ALWAYS ONE THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE CHALLENGES WITH AND WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE BECAUSE OF THE STATUS OF INVENTORY IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING . RIGHT NOW, YOU ARE SAYING 80,000 HAVE BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR BY SOME BACKUP FINANCIAL MEANS TO MAKE SURE THIS PROJECT WILL COMPLETE?

>> YES, SIR. >> I AM DONE.

>> DOES THE GRANT COVER THE MAJORITY OF THIS, OR DOES THE GRANT MEET MOST OF THE NEEDS OF WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE?

>> THE GRANT COVERS 483,000 AND SOME ODD NUMBER.

>> RIGHT. ALL OF THIS HAS TO BE REPORTED WHENEVER YOU REPORT FOR THE GRANT TO WHOEVER WAS THE GRANTOR ?

>> YES, MA'AM . TO THE STATE. >> TO THE STATE. WOULD YOU SAY

COVERS 80% OR 90%, THE GRANT? >> NO, WE ARE LOOKING AT MAYBE

90, 80 , BETWEEN 80 AND 90% . >> SO, MOST OF THESE COSTS, THESE CHANGE ORDERS ARE COVERED BY THE GRANT?

>> NOT THE CHANGE ORDERS, BECAUSE THE GRANT FUNDS, THAT SCOPE OF SERVICE, THAT COVERS JUST THAT. THE CHANGE ORDERS CAME ABOUT BECAUSE WHEN THE CONTRACTORS GOT INTO THE BUILDING THE BUILDING HAD TO GO THROUGH A CHANGE OF USE , WHICH MEANT, THERE WERE CERTAIN THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE TO BRING THE BUILDING UP TO CODE SO THAT IT COULD BE USED

NOW AS A MUSEUM. >> GOT IT. OKAY. YEP.

>> WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL CONTRACTED AMOUNT TOTAL?

>> ACTUALLY, IT WAS I THINK 500,000 , IT WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN 500,000, BECAUSE THE GRANT, WHEN WE PUT IT OUT TO BID , AND THE LOWEST BID WAS JOURNEY , WE FOUND THAT THE AMOUNT WE HAD REQUESTED FROM THE STATE WOULD NOT BE ENOUGH FOR WHAT THE LOWEST BID CAME IN AT .

>> JUST LOOKING THROUGH , SOME OF THESE SEEM LIKE THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL SCOPE OF WORK, LIKE THE WIRING FOR THE SECURITY SYSTEM WAS INCLUDED IN THE SCOPE OF WORK, BUT NOW WE ARE COMING BACK AND ASKING FOR MORE MONEY. IT KIND OF FEELS LIKE A LOT OF THE STUFF WASN'T IN THE ORIGINAL BUDGET WHEN IT WAS APPROVED. AND A.D.A. IS NOT REALLY A SURPRISE. THAT WOULD BE A GENERAL THING THAT HAS TO HAPPEN, NO MATTER WHAT YOU ARE DOING FOR PUBLIC BUILDING.

>> I WILL TELL YOU, WHEN THE BUDGET WAS-- WHEN THE PROPOSAL WAS MADE FOR THE GRANT, WE DID NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE PROFESSIONALS GO IN AND TAKE A LOOK. THOSE WERE BASICALLY ESTIMATES. THE SECURITY , THE FIRE SAFETY , FIRE SUPPRESSION , THOSE WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE RFP THAT WAS PUT OUT TO THE PUBLIC TO REQUEST PROPOSALS OR REQUEST A BID ON, BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE PUT THE AMOUNT AT A MUCH HIGHER COST , SO THEY WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE RFP, THOSE WERE SEPARATE ITEMS THAT WERE SUBMITTED SEPARATELY, NOT FITTED SEPARATELY, THEY WERE USED BY THE EXISTING COMPANIES THAT PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE CITY. SERCURITOS IS THE COMPANY THAT DOES ALL OF OUR SECURITY FOR CITY BUILDINGS AND WE WORK WITH VETERAN FIRE AND FIRE SECURITY TO DO OUR FIRE ALARM AND OUR FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEM.

>> SO, WE KNEW WHEN WE APPROVED THE RFP AND SIGN THE CONTRACTOR, THESE EXPENSES WOULD BE COMING FORWARD?

>> WE DID NOT KNOW THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO TRY -- BECAUSE IT IS AN EXISTING BUILDING, WE DID NOT KNOW WE WOULD NEED TO OPEN UP THE CEILING TO TRY TO PLACE THE SPRINKLER IN THE CEILING.

THEY RAN INTO SOME ISSUES WITH THAT , SO NOW THAT IS NOT GOING

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TO BE DONE. THOSE WERE THINGS THAT WERE NOT AVAILABLE WHEN THE QUOTES WERE RECEIVED FOR THE THREE COMPANIES AS IT RELATES TO THE FIRE SPRINKLER AND THE SECURITY.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU. >> A FOLLOW-UP ON THAT, MY INTERPRETATION OF THIS IS THAT YOU COMPILED YOUR SUBCONTRACTOR CHANGE ORDERS SUBMITTED TO GC AND SUBMITTED THEM IN ONE PACKAGE WITH A LAUNDRY LIST OF CHANGE ORDERS ME IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT? BEING IN THE RENOVATION BUSINESS, I DON'T GET OVERLY CONCERNED ABOUT THESE TYPES OF SCENARIOS, BECAUSE WE RUN INTO THESE DAILY . I DON'T REALLY SEE A PROBLEM WITH IT . HOWEVER, I AM VERY CURIOUS TO ME WHEN WE PUT THIS OUT TO BID ORIGINALLY, WE DID NOT HAVE COMPLETED DETAILED PLANS, WE WERE BIDDING OFF THE BACK OF A NAPKIN TYPE PLANS.

LAUGHTER ] YOU KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. OKAY. THAT OBVIOUSLY CREATE THIS TYPE OF COMPLICATION . IN OUR WORLD , WE CAN DO THIS ALL THE TIME. IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN, WITH PUBLIC TAX MONEY, GRANT MONEY TO ME WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, I THINK WE ARE BETTER OFF HAVING EXTREMELY DETAILED PLANS CONSISTENTLY. I THINK THAT SHOULD BE A MATTER OF POLICY, ESPECIALLY ON THESE OLDER BUILDING RENOVATIONS, WHICH MY COMPANY DOES THIS REGULARLY. IT IS JUST CONSTANTLY A MESS , TRYING TO GET ACCURATE NUMBERS IS A VERY CHALLENGING THING. I APPLAUD THE CONTRACTOR FOR BEING ABLE TO FINITELY DETAILED THIS. I WILL ASK THIS TO THEM, ANY OTHER ISSUES YOU SEE AS FAR AS CHANGE ORDERS ARE CONCERNED ? ANYTHING STRESSING YOU SOME OF YOUR SUBS ARE SAYING, WE ARE NOT GETTING SUFFICIENT MONEY, OR NEED TO INCREASE THE SCOPE OF WORK?

>> YOU NEED TO COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND IDENTIF YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD, OR WHOEVER IS SPEAKING.

>> POLICE MEGAN KNIGHT. NO, THAT IS WHY WE WERE VERY DILIGENT ABOUT COMPILING EVERYTHING WE THOUGHT WOULD BE AN ISSUE AT ONE TIME . SO, NO. WE FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE ARE ABLE TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT.

>> SO, I SHOULD EXPECT TO SEE NO FURTHER CHANGE ORDERS COMING TO COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL?

>> I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER , THIS IS A JACKIE CANNON BUILDING . I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS REAL NEWLY BIT BUILT, OR REHABBED IN EARLY 2000. IT WAS BROUGHT UP TO SOME KIND OF CODE IN LIKE 2005, AM I REMEMBERING SOMETHING LIKE THAT? SO, I WAS SITTING HERE THINKING, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE , BUT IT WASN'T , BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE OF USE , YOU HAD TO DO SO MANY , IT WAS IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE, BUT THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO AND IT IS A MUSEUM. YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE SECURITY, THE HVAC'S, AND

EVERYTHING. >> THAT WAS A BIG ONE.

SPRINKLERS WEREN'T NECESSARY WITH PRIOR USE . NOW IS IS A PLACE OF ASSEMBLY, AND IT REQUIRES --

>> FIRE BURN WALLS, ALL OF THAT.

>> PROBABLY Y'ALL KNOW MORE ABOUT IT THAN I DO. I'VE BEEN TALKING TO SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS COME AND THEY ARE VERY ANXIOUS TO GET THE MUSEUM OPEN, VERY ANXIOUS , BUT I KNOW THAT THERE IS A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS TO TURN THAT BUILDING FROM WHAT IT WAS, WHICH WAS HOUSING MAIN STREET , I THINK, KIND OF AN OFFICE BUILDING TO NOW WHAT? THAT IS RIGHT, EXACTLY .

>> THERE MIGHT BE ONE OTHER THING THAT YOU MIGHT SEE LATER.

>> OKAY, HERE WE GO. I'M READY.

>> RIGHT NOW, THE FIRST FLOOR IS LOWER THAN THE PARKING LOT ,

SO THAT CREATES A DRAINAGE -- >> PROBLEM?

>> YEAH. >> EVEN I CAN FIGURE THAT OUT.

SPOKEN WITH THE ENGINEER AND ASKED HIM TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT AND PREVENT ANY FUTURE WATER INTRUSION.

>> HAS IT BEEN A WATER PROBLEM?

>> IT WAS AN ISSUE BEFORE WE GOT STARTED ON ALL OF THIS ,

SO-- >> I WOULD SUGGEST DEALING WITH IT NOW , DURING THE PROCESS, WHILE CONSTRUCTION IS STILL UNDERWAY IN HEAVY MODE THAT POTENTIALLY IS GOING TO BE A

MESSY, CUMBERSOME JOB. >> YEP. YES, SIR? SORRY, GO

AHEAD. >> THANK YOU FOR THIS. I'M NOT GOING TO JUMP ON THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR , AND MS. WELLS

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TODAY, BECAUSE THEY FOLLOWED WHAT WE PUT OUT AN RFP . THAT IS WHAT WE PUT OUT IN RFP . IF WE HAVE HEARTBURN AND HEADACHES , WE NEED TO LOOK AT OURSELVES AND GO BACK AND REVAMP--

>> THE PROCESS WASN'T RIGHT .

>> EXACTLY. LET'S PUT IT OUT THERE.

>> A LEARNING MOMENT. >> THERE YOU GO . I'M GOING TO SAY THIS, THIS IS A MUSEUM , AND WE NEED EVERYTHING IN THE

MUSEUM TO PROTECT THIS WORK >> YES .

>> I DON'T WANT TO GET NO EMAILS, OR CAMERAS IN MY FACE IF WE DON'T DO THIS RIGHT , AND SOMEONE GOES IN AND STEALS THESE PICTURES , SOMEONE GOES IN AND A FIRE STARTS , AND THESE PICTURES ARE BURNED UP. WE DON'T FIX THIS , WE DON'T FIX THIS LEVEL AND WE GO IN AND PEOPLE CAN'T GO IN BECAUSE IT IS FULL OF WATER , BECAUSE WE ALL SITTING HERE NOW WHERE THIS MONEY CAME FROM , AND AS SOON AS THIS MUSEUM OPENS UP , IT IS NOT JUST GOING TO BE ON OUR WEBSITE , IT IS GOING TO BE ON THE STATE OF FLORIDA'S WEBSITE THAT THERE IS A MUSEUM IN FORT PIERCE HONORING THE HIGHWAYMEN MUSEUM AND I WANT IT DONE RIGHT . JANUARY 31ST, 2025, THAT IS A GREAT DATE , BUT DON'T RUSH IT. I WANT IT OPENED, I'M NOT SAYING GO THROUGH ANY-- WHATEVER THE -- WHAT YOU SAY, JOAN, JULY, LET'S GET THIS RIGHT. LET'S GET THIS RIGHT , BECAUSE WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF THINGS THIS LAST YEAR THAT WE HAD HIGH HOPES, WE HAD GREAT INTENTIONS , AND IT DID NOT COME THROUGH . LET'S START OFF IN 2025 WITH SOMETHING THAT IS DEAR TO ME , AND A LOT OF RESIDENCE IN FORT PIERCE, ESPECIALLY THE RESIDENTS OF THE LAKE AND PARK AREA, BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE THE HIGHWAYMAN WERE BORN AND RAISED. I WILL BE VERY CLEAR, THIS IS NOT A BLACK AND WHITE MUSEUM . THIS IS A FORT PIERCE MUSEUM THAT IS GOING TO TURN INTO A STATE OF FLORIDA MUSEUM THAT IS GOING TO TURN INTO A NATIONAL MUSEUM . LET'S BE REAL ABOUT THIS. THIS IS OUR CHANCE FOR FORT PIERCE TO START OFF 2025 BY SAYING , THIS IS WHAT WE ARE ABOUT. GOING BACK TO YOUR SPEECH, GOING BACK TO YOUR SPEECH, THIS IS POTENTIAL. THIS IS WHAT FORT PIERCE CANDY. AND I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOREVER. THAT IS WHY I PULLED OUT , I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOREVER, STARTING WITH THIS MUSEUM IS WHAT WE NEED TO REVITALIZE THAT WHOLE AREA WITH THAT WHOLE MASTER PLAN WITH EVERYTHING WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT FOREVER, WE START WITH THIS MUSEUM AND WE GO FROM THERE AND WE START IT OFF ON THE RIGHT POINT AND GO FROM THERE. IF CHANGE ORDERS NEED TO BE MADE, I DON'T BLAME YOU GUYS. HE RFP WAS THE RFP. COMMISSIONER BRODRICK YOU SAID IT RIGHT, CHAIRMAN BRODRICK, YOU SAID IT RIGHT, ON THE BACK OF THE NAPKIN. WE'VE GOT TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT OUR RFP TO MAKE SURE. THE ONLY REASON I AM SAYING THAT IS BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHERE I AM GOING WITH THIS. I AM NOT EVEN GOING TO CALL IT OUT TONIGHT. THERE ARE SOME OTHER BUILDINGS IN WALKING DISTANCE TO THIS MUSEUM . I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT, PLEASE COME TALK TO ME. I'M STILL REACHING OUT TO THE OWNERS OF THE BUILDING TO COME AND TALK TO ME THAT WE WILL HAVE TO DO THE SAME THING, BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE TO GO IN AND FIX THAT BUILDING UP. YOU KNOW WHERE I AM GOING. I AM GOING TO BE QUIET. LET'S DO THIS RIGHT AND LET'S MOVE DOWN , LET'S JUST MOVE DOWN AND REVITALIZE THAT AREA JUST LIKE WE ALL PLANNED TO DO IT AND LET'S START WITH THIS MUSEUM .

>> AND WE WILL MAKE SURE OUR RFP OUR FULL PLANT NEXT TIME.

>> AND WE ARE ALREADY WORKING ON THAT. WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.

>> YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE OF CONSTRUCTION PEOPLE UP HERE. WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THESE RFPS COME DOWN THE PIPE, WE ARE LOOKING TO APPROVE THEM AND WE HAVE FULL, SIGNED, SEALED, STAMPS WITH EVERY CONSTRUCTION NEEDING TO BE DONE ON THE PROJECT, PERIOD. WE WILL NOT SIT THROUGH THAT AGAIN. AND I AM NOT CRITICIZING ANYBODY, I AM JUST SUGGESTING , WE CAN DO BETTER. WE HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO DO BETTER, WE WILL DO

BETTER, I ASSURE YOU. >> MADAM CHAIR, I'VE GOT TO TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER, IT IS NOT A CRITICISM , WE HAVE TO BE

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ACCOUNTABLE. I AM VERY UPSET , BECAUSE THIS IS THE SECOND PROJECT THAT WE HAD A MAJOR CHANGE OF USE OF A BUILDING AND WE MISSED IT AS A CITY. SO, I WANT TO TALK TO STAFF, WHEN WE HAVE OUR STAFF MEETING , BECAUSE THIS IS A CHANGE OF USE, WHICH SHOULD TRIGGER CERTAIN THINGS TO HAPPEN . AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE GIVEN GOOD INFORMATION TO THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE MADE AN INVESTMENT , HIGHWAYMAN , OR ANY OTHER PROJECT THAT WILL IMPROVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I AM UPSET. I AM EMBARRASSED . WE GOT TO FIX THIS. THIS CANNOT CONTINUE TO HAPPEN. IT IS A MAJOR CHANGE OF USE. A.D.A. ALWAYS COMES IN ON

THAT. >> I AM GOOD.

>> IT IS FIXABLE . >> SO, ARE YOU GOING TO-- IS THERE GOING TO BE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CHANGE ORDERS?

>> IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION . WITH THAT, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CHANGE ORDERS A THROUGH F THAT WERE

APPROVED BY ME. >> COMMISSIONER BRODRICK? COMMISSIONER GAINES. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

[i. Approval of First Amendment to Agreement with Incubate Neighborhood Center (INC) to Lease and Improve Means Court.]

COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. CHAIRWOMAN HUDSON.

>>> NEXT ITEM IS APPROVAL TO INCUBATE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER TO LEASE AND APPROVE IMPROVE MEANS COURT.

>> MADAM CHAIR, I ASKED FOR THIS TO BE IMPROVED , BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF COMMUNICATION , NEGATIVE AND POSITIVE ABOUT THE INC CENTER, NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER, IN THIS SAME AREA THAT I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT. AND I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN TRYING TO GET THE INC CENTER BACKUP. I'M NOT GOING TO GET IN DETAIL.

THERE HAS BEEN AN UP-AND-DOWN ROLLER COASTER , AND I HAVE TO GIVE THEM KUDOS , BECAUSE THEY COULD HAVE EASILY SAID, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH , AND I AM WALKING OUT. THAT CENTER , ONCE IT IS OPENED UP , AND I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE, BUT I AM HEARING, IT IS REAL SOON, IT IS GOING TO BE CRUCIAL TO AGAIN , THE MASTER PLAN WE HAVE GOT FOR THAT AREA, AND EVERYTHING IN THAT AREA . WE ARE CONCENTRATING ON THAT ONE AREA.

IT IS IN THE BACK DOOR OF THE HIGHWAY MUSEUM. IT IS IN THE BACK DOOR. AND WE APPROVED MS. ANDREWS HERE, AND I THINK WE APPROVED , IN COMMISSION MEETING , THE PARKING LOT GOING ACROSS THE STREET . SO, I JUST WANTED -- SHE IS HERE, I'M NOT GOING TO CALL HER NAME OUT , BUT SHE IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE AND I WANT THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THAT, SHE DID NOT GIVE UP, STAFF DID NOT GIVE UP , AND WE ARE CLOSE . I DON'T WANT TO GIVE DATES OUT, BECAUSE IF I GIVE A DATE OUT AND IT IS OPEN AND THOSE GATES ARE NOT OPEN, META-MAYOR, YOUR PHONE WILL BE RINGING, AND MY PHONE WILL BE RINGING, BUT I WANT TO GIVE KUDOS TO STAFF, AND TO HER , I WILL SAY IT LIKE THAT, TO HER, FOR NOT GIVING UP . AND WE NEED YOUR CENTER, THE PEOPLE IN LINCOLN PARK AND FORT PIERCE NEED YOUR CENTER. AGAIN, IT IS NOT A LINCOLN PARK CENTER, IT IS A FORT PIERCE CENTER.

ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO COME IN THROUGH THOSE DOORS AND ASKED FOR HELP, TRUST ME, SHE WILL HELP YOU TO GET TO WHERE YOU ARE GOING. I WANTED TO JUST PULL IT TO TELL HER THANK YOU, AND TELL STAFF, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE JOBS YOU HAVE DONE TO GET US WHERE WE ARE. THIS FIRST AMENDMENT , I READ IT AND I KNOW WHAT IT IS TO ME IT IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

>> MADAM CHAIRMAN, I HAVE ONE REQUEST , I HAVE TOURED THIS FACILITY TWICE , INITIALLY WHEN IT WAS FALLOW , THERE HAD BEEN SOME WORK DONE THAT REQUIRED ADDITIONAL ARCHITECTURAL WORK , ET CETERA, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE AND GET EYES ON THIS SO WE CAN SEE WHERE IT IS AT.

>> I CAN TELL YOU NOW, YOU WILL BE VERY SURPRISED . YOU WILL

WALK OUT SAYING, WOW. >> I DON'T SAY WOW A LOT ON

CONSTRUCTION. >> I'M LETTING YOU KNOW, YOU

ARE GOING TO SAY WOW. >> I SAID WOW WHEN I SAW THE PROBLEMS THEY HAD.

>> THAT IS WHY I SAID IT, THAT WAS A WOW MOMENT .

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>> I SAID, I AM GLAD MY COMPANY IS NOT DOING THE PROJECT.

>> BUT THEY DID NOT RUN. THEY STOOD THE TIME, THAT IS ALL

I'M TRYING TO SAY. >> SHOWED BACKBONE.

>> ONE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY IS, THERE WAS MOMENTUM WHEN THAT CENTER WAS OPENED. A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE ENERGIZED . AND WHEN IT CLOSED, IT HALTED ALL OF THAT AND WE NEED TO GET BACK TO THAT, SO I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

>> THAT IS WHY I PULLED IT. MADAM CHAIR , NO MORE DISCUSSION . I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 7I.

>> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> A MOTION AND SECOND. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

[a. Fort Pierce Police Department FPRA Off-Duty Details Presentation]

>> COMMISSIONER GAMES, COMMISSIONER TAYLOR, COMMISSIONER BRODRICK, CHAIRWOMAN HUDSON.

>> NEXT ITEM IS THE FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT OFF-DUTY

DETAILS PRESENTATION. >> YES MA'AM, WE HAVE CAPTAIN JASON BRAUN WITH A THIS EVENING THAT WILL BE PROVIDING AN UPDATE. I HAD TO PULL IT UP. SARAH MAY COME DOWN AND GIVE A

LITTLE ASSISTANCE. >> KNOW HOW TO PULL IT UP.

LAUGHTER ] I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A HARD TIME. IT IS NOT HIS FIRST RODEO AT THE PODIUM . WHATEVER . IT IS NOT YOUR FIRST RODEO.

>> GOOD EVENING MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS.

>> WELCOME . >> LIKE CITY MANAGER SAID, WE ARE GOING OVER THE FPRA DETAIL.

>> YOU WILL NEED TO PULL YOUR MIC A LITTLE CLOSER. IT IS NOT

PICKING UP. >> GOING OVER THE FPRA DETAIL.

THE FPRA DETAIL, WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT ONES, ONE IS THE DOWNTOWN AREA , THE JETTY PARK AREA, AND THE 25TH STREET AREA.

THE DETAIL IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA IS STAFFED BY TWO OFFICERS PER SHIFT. THERE IS ONE TIMESLOT , TWO OFFICERS PER SHIFT ON SATURDAY WITH THREE TIMESLOTS . AND ONE OFFICER , PER SHIFT FOR 2 DIFFERENT TIMESLOTS . WE KIND OF SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WE TOOK A LOOK AT OUR CALLS THAT WE WERE RECEIVING AND WE NEEDED MORE COVERAGE ON SATURDAYS, SO WE KIND OF SPLIT THOSE TWO OFFICERS APART TO TRY TO GIVE MORE COVERAGE DOWNTOWN. THE -- WE ARE RUNNING ABOUT 60 HOURS WEEKLY ON THAT AT A COST OF $2400 EVERY WEEK . OUT OF THAT , WHEN WE GO THROUGH , LOOKING AT THE CALLS ON THAT, 73% OF THE CALLS IN THAT AREA ARE ALL OFFICER GENERATED CALLS . THE MAJORITY OF THOSE OFFICER GENERATED CALLS OF THOSE 529 OFFICER GENERATED INITIATED ACTIVITY, ABOUT 500 OF THOSE ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO DETERRENCE AND ENFORCEMENT EARLY INTERVENTION ENFORCEMENT ACTION. WE KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AT THIS -- IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE CLOSE PATROLLED, VEHICLE TRAFFIC STOPS , SUSPICIOUS PERSONS THAT CONDUCT INVESTIGATIONS, OUR DIRECT INTERVENTION ACTIONS. WE KIND OF TAKE A LOOK AT THIS FOR HOURS , WHEN IS OUR BEST TARGET TIME. AND WE LOOK AT THIS BY HEAT MAPS. THE TOP, YOU WILL SEE, IS OFFICER GENERATED. THE MIDDLE ONE IS A CITIZEN GENERATED, AND THE BOTTOM ONE IS COMBINED. THE ONES WE ARE REALLY FOCUSED ON OUR CITIZEN GENERATED, BECAUSE THAT IS WHEN OUR ACTIVITY AND CONCERN IS GENERALLY RELATED TO OUR CITIZENS. WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT AND BASED ON THAT HEAT MAP, WE ARE COVERING THE GENERAL TIMES WHEN WE ARE SEEING THE MOST ACTIVITY AND MOST CALLS . YOU WILL NOTICE THAT IN THE OFFICER GENERATED ONE, AND IN THE COMBINED OVERLAY , THERE IS A HOTTER SPOT BETWEEN 6:00 A.M. AND 7:00 A.M.. WE ACTUALLY ARE TARGETING ENFORCEMENT IN THAT AREA , MAKING SURE OUR DOWNTOWN IS OPENING FOR BUSINESS SAFE AND SECURE. OUR DAY SHIFTS ARE EVERYDAY OF THE WEEK FOR ME THEY ARE COMING DOWN HERE, GOING THROUGH DOWNTOWN EARLY EARLY IN THE MORNING, LOOKING FOR ANY ISSUES THAT MIGHT BE OCCURRING . OUR JETTY PARK DETAIL IS STAFFED BY TWO OFFICERS FRIDAY, TWO OFFICERS

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ON SATURDAY, AND TWO OFFICERS ON SUNDAY. EACH OF THOSE OFFICERS HAVE A ONE-TIME SHIFT , MAINLY LATER IN THE EVENING.

WE ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT 36 HOURS A WEEK, WITH A COST OF $1944 WEEKLY . ON THAT, WE HAVE ABOUT 76% OF OUR CALL VOLUME IN THERE. SORRY, LET ME BACK UP TO DOWNTOWN. SORRY, I SKIPPED OVER. OUT OF THAT ENTIRE TIME THAT WE HAVE HAD THAT DETAIL DOWN THERE, WE'VE HAD EIGHT ARRESTS. THE MAJORITY OF THOSE ARRESTS ARE ORDINANCE VIOLATIONS, TRESPASSING WARRANTS AND TRAFFIC OFFENSES. SORRY ABOUT THAT. MOVING ON BACK TO THE JETTY . WE HAD ABOUT 100 , 76%, OR 100 OF THOSE CALLS WERE OFFICER INITIATED. AGAIN, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE OUT OF THOSE 100, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE THE ENFORCEMENT EARLY INTERVENTION RELATED ACTIVITIES . AND AGAIN, SAME WITH THAT . WE ALSO LOOK AT THAT ON THE HEAT MAP , DESELECT TIMES ON HERE TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE KIND OF COVERING THE SAME THINGS, BASED ON THE CITIZEN GENERATED . WE ARE HITTING THE MAIN HIGHLIGHTS , WHICH ARE THE FRIDAYS, SATURDAYS, AND SUNDAYS ON THAT. AND AT THE JETTY , DURING THAT TIME , THERE WERE FIVE ARRESTS , A COUPLE OF WARRANTS, THERE WERE THREE FIGHTS , AND A TRAFFIC VIOLATION . THE 25TH STREET DETAIL , THAT IS STAFFED BY ONE OFFICER PER TIMESLOT .

IT RUNS WEDNESDAYS, FRIDAYS, SATURDAYS, AND SUNDAYS . THAT IS ABOUT 17 HOURS A WEEK, ABOUT A TOTAL OF $918 WEEKLY CALLS.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CALLS FOR SERVICE IN THAT AREA, IT IS ABOUT 50 , 50% RATIO . AND AGAIN, THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF INDIVIDUAL CALLS , OFFICER INITIATED CALLS , OUR TRAFFIC STOPS. THESE ARE INTERVENTION AS AN ENFORCEMENT , TRYING NOT TO EARLY INTERVENE INTO SITUATIONS SO THEY DON'T GET OUT OF HAND. AND AGAIN , IF WE LOOK AT THE HEAT MAP ON THIS, WE CAN SEE OUR CITIZEN GENERATED CALLS FOLLOW ALONG THOSE DAYS. SUNDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY, AND SUNDAYS , EARLY INTO THE A.M. HOURS ARE OUR HOTTEST COMPLAINT TIMES .

AND REVIEWING THE CALLS, THE MAJORITY OF THE CALLS ARE NOISE COMPLAINTS . AND THE MAJORITY OF THOSE NOISE COMPLAINTS CALLS ARE COMING FROM ISSUES WITH LOUD CAR STEREOS . THAT IS A CHALLENGING ISSUE THAT IS MOBILE , AND IT IS KIND OF LIKE PLAYING WHACK A MOLE, WE HIT THEM HERE, AND THEN MOVED HERE.

WE HAVE TRIED TO -- WITH ANY ENFORCEMENT, WE START WITH EDUCATION . WE WORK BEST WITH OUR COMMUNITY WHEN OUR COMMUNITY WILLFULLY COMPLIES , VOLUNTARILY COMPLIED WITH OUR REQUESTS . FROM EDUCATION , WHEN WE ARE STILL CONTINUING TO HAVE PROBLEMS, WE HAVE TO TAKE A AGGRESSIVE APPROACH AND MOVE THAT INTO ACTUAL TRAFFIC CITATIONS . PLANS MOVING FORWARD ON THIS , WE WILL BE LOOKING AT CONTINUING EDUCATION AND PROGRESSIVE ENFORCEMENT . PART OF THAT IS ALSO GOING TO BE THE USE OF SIGNBOARDS AND SOCIAL MEDIA MESSAGING . WE ARE STILL WORKING OUT DETAILS OF WHAT MESSAGING WE ARE GOING TO BE PUTTING ON THERE, BUT THAT IS IN THE WORKS.

>> SO, YOU READY FOR QUESTIONS ?

>> SURE. >> IN THESE THREE AREAS , DO THESE OFFICERS TRY TO MEET WITH , OR KNOW THE BUSINESSES IN THE AREA AND GET THEIR BUY-IN ? THE BUSINESSES IN THESE AREAS AWARE

THAT WE HAVE SPECIAL DETAILS? >> YES , THEY ARE DEFINITELY INSTRUCTED TO MAKE CONTACT WITH . WE REQUIRE THEM TO DO REPORTS EVERY DAY. EVERY SHIFT, WE REQUIRE THEM TO DO A SHIFT REPORT AND ACTIVITY LOG. THAT IS A PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS

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ON THAT REPORT . I DO KNOW GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE ACTIVITY LOGS, WE HAD A BUSINESS THAT WAS USING GENERATORS ON 25TH STREET DETAIL . AND I KNOW THAT THAT BECAME AN ISSUE AND IT WAS A NOISE COMPLAINT GENERATED FROM THAT. ONE OF OUR OFFICERS ACTUALLY SAT DOWN WITH THE BUSINESS AND TALKED TO THEM ABOUT SOUND SHIELDING , AND POSSIBLY PURCHASING QUIETER GENERATORS , OR SOURCING QUIETER GENERATORS TO TRY TO PREVENT THAT FROM OCCURRING .

>> BECAUSE YOU SAY THAT THE BEST WAY TO DO POLICING IS TO GET THE BUY-IN FROM THE PUBLIC . I WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULD WANT THE BUY-IN FROM THE BUSINESSES AND THE BUSINESS IS TO BE AWARE THAT THIS IS A SPECIAL AREA , WE ARE SPENDING MONEY OVER AND ABOVE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT REGULAR POLICING, BECAUSE OF THESE AREAS. FOR INSTANCE , THE DOWNTOWN DETAIL, DO THEY MEET WITH THE DBA ? SEGMENT YES, MA'AM . THE INDIVIDUAL OFFICERS, I BELIEVE MEET WITH THE DBA REGULARLY, BUT WE DO MEET WITH THE DBA, WE HAVE COMMUNICATION WITH THE

DBA. >> BECAUSE I THINK JUST AS IMPORTANT AS HAVING THIS EXTRA DETAIL IS FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO KNOW , WE ARE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS HAVING AN EXTRA DETAIL IN THE AREA. THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO KNOW THAT TOO, BECAUSE THEN THEY COULD WORK WITH US . WITH THE NOISE COMPLAINTS, I AM AWARE OF THE NOISE COMPLAINTS MY UNDERSTANDING WAS, PERHAPS WHAT WAS HAPPENING IS , A BUSINESS WAS TELLING , I'M ASSUMING A LOT OF THESE HAS TO DO WITH OVERINDULGENCE IN SUBSTANCES, SHALL WE SAY , LATE AT NIGHT . SO, PEOPLE WOULD PARK AT A PARKING LOT AND SET UP SPEAKERS AND BE STATIONARY, NOT MOBILE , IS THAT NOT THE

CASE? >> MOST OF IT IS FROM VEHICLES WHETHER THEY ARE JUST OPENING UP THE VEHICLES, LOUD VEHICLES , AND OUR OFFICERS HAVE FREQUENTLY ENGAGED WITH THEM, TRIED TO EDUCATE THEM , GET THEM TO COMPLY VOLUNTARILY ME PROGRESSIVELY MOVING FORWARD, THAT WILL HAVE TO MOVE INTO CITATION, TRAFFIC CITATION ENFORCEMENT .

>> AND YOU SAY, SOMETIMES WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY JUST MOVED TO

ANOTHER LOCATION? >> YES , MA'AM.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, SIR?

>> I'M GOING TO DEAL WITH THE 25TH STREET AREA . LIKE I SAY, A LOT OF THOSE COMPLAINTS ARE THE NOISE AND MOVING TARGETS OF THESE VEHICLES WITH THIS LOUD MUSIC. FIRST QUESTION , I'M FINE WITH THE EDUCATION PART . FIT , TALK TO THEM, GIVE THEM A CHANCE , BUT WHEN YOU GET TO THE CITATION PART , OR LET'S GET TO THE CITATION PART , BECAUSE IT'S ONLY A CERTAIN NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT ARE DOING THIS . AND I FEEL , YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE YOU MOVE , DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T GET ANOTHER CITATION . MAYBE I AM WRONG ON THAT TO ME MAYBE YOU CAN CORRECT ME ON THAT, BUT WE HAVE TO SEND A MESSAGE TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORS THAT YOU ARE THERE . THEY SEE YOU , BUT I WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING . NOT SAYING YOU ARE NOT, BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING. YOU WANT TO GET PUSHBACK FROM THIS COMMISSIONER, MORE CITATIONS ARE WRITTEN TO HELP THE CITIZENS ALONG WITH THIS NOISE COMPLAINT . MADAM CHAIR , YOU TALKED ABOUT THE BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN . ON THE 25TH STREET AREA THAT WE ARE DOING , IT IS LIKE FOUR? I'M NOT GOING TO CALL NAMES RIGHT NOW, IT IS LIKE FOUR OR FIVE BUSINESSES THAT ARE CREATING THIS PROBLEM THAT YOU GET ALL YOUR COMPLAINTS FROM . I KNOW YOU CAN NAME THEM , I CAN NAME THEM TOO. MY QUESTION , HAVE WE GONE INTO TALK TO THESE BUSINESSES?

>> YES, WE HAVE. YES, WE DEFINITELY HAVE ON THAT.

>> WELL , LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION . I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT , CAN I HELP YOU? BECAUSE I HAVE GONE IN AND TALK TO TWO OR THREE OF THEM, I KNOW TWO . SO, CAN I HELP YOU GOING INTO TALK KNOW HOW SERIOUS WE ARE? BECAUSE IT HAS TO STOP . IF THEY CONTROLLED TWO OF THEM , IF THEY CONTROL IT AND THEY COME OUT AND SAY, HEY, WE CAN'T HAVE THIS HERE, ME PERSONALLY LEAVE A LOT OF THIS PROBLEM WILL GO AWAY. IT IS GOING TO GENERATE ALL YOUR PROBLEM TO THAT ONE LITTLE PART

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. YOU KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. THAT ONE LITTLE PARK AND WE CAN CONTROL THAT AREA , BECAUSE IT IS OPEN AND OBVIOUSLY WE CAN CONTROL THAT AREA. THE TWO BUSINESSES I HAVE SPOKEN TO ALREADY SAY, YOU'VE GOT TO HELP US AND THEY GAVE ME

THE SMILE, YES, YES.-- >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT, COMMISSIONER, TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO UTILIZE YOU, ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO PUSH THIS MESSAGING OUT AND PUT COMPLIANCE AND

ENFORCEMENT TOGETHER . >> WHAT I DON'T WANT IS, YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB OVER THERE. YOU CAN LOOK AT THE HOTSPOTS. YOU'RE TRYING TO EDUCATE, TRYING TO DO WHATEVER, AND I DON'T WANT ALL OF YOUR TIME OVER THERE DEALING WITH THE SAME COUPLE OF PEOPLE AND ISSUES THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH OVER THERE. WHITE TRUCK, BLUE TRUCK, PINK TRUCK . DID I GET IT RIGHT? OKAY . NOW I HOPE THEY ARE LISTENING, BECAUSE I DON'T REALLY CARE. I WILL DO THAT FOR YOU . I WILL GO BACK AND TRY TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THE THIRD ONE TO SEE, HEY, COME TO SOME HAPPY MEDIUM . PEOPLE NEED TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY THEMSELVES AND HAVE FUN ON THE WEEKENDS AFTER WORKING HARD ALL WEEK . I GET IT. BUT NOT EVERYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD

WANTS TO HEAR . >> WANTS TO BE A PART OF THE

PARTY. >> I'M TRYING TO-- AND I NEED YOUR HELP, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT , WHAT'S THE MIDDLE GROUND, WHAT'S THAT BETTER GROUND WHERE I CAN'T LET THE RESIDENCE HAVE THEIR FUN AND THE OTHER RESIDENTS THAT DON'T WANT TO JOIN THE PARTY , THEY WILL BE FINE, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO GIVE A LITTLE TOO. PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE SOME FUN, BUT I DON'T WANT YOU NOT BEING ABLE TO SLEEP IN YOUR BED AT 1:00, 2:00 IN THE MORNING. I GET IT. WE'VE GOT TO BE TOLERANCE OF BOTH. THAT IS WHAT I AM TRYING TO GET TO. I DON'T WANT TO-- IF YOU STOP ONE, IT WILL CREATE PROBLEMS SOMEWHERE ELSE. WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A HAPPY MEDIUM , IF I CAN. THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO SAY, MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. I WILL GO OUT, I KNOW THE AREAS . ON 25TH STREET , FROM THIS 9:00 P.M. , TO 12:00 A.M., I KNOW ALL OF THEM RED AREAS.

>> KNOW THE HOTSPOTS. >> I KNOW EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM HOTSPOTS. I CAN PROBABLY BE GETTING MY CAR AT 11:30 AND KNOW WHAT IT IS GOING TO BE BECAUSE I HEAR IT TOO. I WILL WORK WITH YOU AND YOUR TEAM AND I WILL PUT IT ON RECORD, I WILL TALK TO THE BUSINESSES AGAIN TO SAY, HEY, WHAT CAN WE DO? AND I DO THANK YOU FOR THE GENERATORS. I DID GET THE EMAILS ABOUT THE GENERATORS RUNNING ALL NIGHT . I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY MORE COMPLAINTS . WHATEVER YOUR TALK WAS, THEY DID COVER THEM . THEY DID PUT SOME STUFF AROUND THEM, OR WENT OUT AND GOT SOME QUIETER GENERATORS . I STOPPED GETTING

THOSE CALLS. >> THANK YOU. SO, I AM COMING AT THIS FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. SATURDAY NIGHT, I WAS OUT . I DROVE THROUGH THE AREA . I DID SEE THE DETAIL PARKED THERE. MY FIRST QUESTION IS, THAT IS A DEDICATED DETAIL IN ALL THEY ARE DOING IS DETAILED WORK. THEY WILL NOT RESPOND, UNLESS IT IS SOME BIG EMERGENCY. THEY WILL NOT CALL OFF AND GO SOME OTHER PLACE. THEY LITERALLY WILL BE OFF THAT EVENING AND THEY ARE DOING THIS DETAIL TO FEEL THAT. I DID SEE THE DETAIL, PARKED IN A POSITION, MONITORING THE AREA THAT HAD BEEN REPORTED BY ME CAUSING SOME ISSUES . I GET THAT. AS I LOOK AT YOUR HEAT MAP, WHAT JUMPED OUT TO ME IS, BASICALLY WE HAVE A PROBLEM STARTING AT 9:00 FROM THE OFFICER GENERATED, TO THE COMBINED, THAT IS HOT AND IT GOES INTO THE MORNING UNTIL 2:00. THE ISSUE I AM HAVING HERE IS , THE BUSINESSES, PARTICULARLY ONE BUSINESS I KNOW ON THE NORTHERN END OF 25TH STREET, THEIR HOURS ARE FROM 11:00 A.M. TO 11:00 P.M. WHY ARE WE GENERATING CALLS AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING ON DISTURBANCES ? AND I CAN'T UNDERSTAND THAT . THERE IS NO AMOUNT OF TALKING THAT WILL HELP ME UNDERSTAND , A PLACE OF EATING ESTABLISHMENT THAT SAYS THEY ARE POSTED TO CLOSE AT 11:00 IS STILL OPEN AT 1:00 IN THE MORNING WITH MUSIC PLAYING OUTSIDE THE DOOR OF THE ESTABLISHMENT. SO, I AM GOING TO NEED SOME HELP FROM THE DETAIL TO UNDERSTAND WHY ARE WE NOT ACTIVELY ENGAGING IN THAT AND WHY IN OUR BUSINESS TAX RECEIPTS , WE HAVE A PLACE THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE SERVING FOOD THAT IS OPENED AT 1:00 IN THE

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MORNING? >> I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THEY SHUT DOWN AT ANY SPECIAL TIME OF DAY.

>> MAY HAVE SENT BUSINESS OPERATING HOURS ON THEIR WEBSITE GOES FROM 11:00 TO 11:00. SOMEHOW, WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT IN CONVERSATION TO SAY, WHAT IS THIS? IS THIS REALLY A BUSINESS DOING FOOD SERVICE, OR AN AFTER HOURS SPOT? WHICH REQUIRES WHATEVER SUBMISSION, AT LEAST LETTING US KNOW WHAT WE HAVE . THAT TO ME CONCERNING , AS I LOOK AT THIS. WHAT ALSO IS CONCERNING IS THAT , NOT ONLY IS IT THAT , BUT I AM NOT SURE , AS MUCH AS IT IS THE MOVING CARS. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, THERE ARE ESTABLISHMENT THAT I KNOW THAT HAVE LITERALLY POSTED THE NO TRESPASSING SIGNS THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ASKED PEOPLE TO POST SO PEOPLE CAN'T JUST PULL UP AND PARK IN THE PARKING LOT WHEN THE DOORS ARE LITERALLY SHATTERED. ONE PLACE COMES FROM AN AREA THAT I KNOW LITERALLY CLOSES AT 7:00 A.M. AND IT IS SHATTERED. A LARGE CONCENTRATION OF CARS GATHER THERE AND TURN IT INTO A SOCIAL SPOT, AND WE HAVE POSTED SIGNS BY THAT OWNER SAYING, NO TRESPASSING , BLANK, BLANK, BLANK. AGAIN, THAT IS A MORE PROACTIVE , DETAILED APPROACH AS TO CITATIONS BEING GIVEN , BECAUSE YOU ARE AT A PLACE THAT IS CLOSED, AND SHUDDERED WITH NO TRESPASSING SIGNS. SO, AS WE WORK WITH THESE BUSINESSES , I HOPE OUR GOAL IS TO SAY Y, WE RESPECT YOUR BUSINESS , WE WANT TO SUPPORT YOUR BUSINESS . IF YOUR BUSINESS IS DOING THIS STUFF, THAT IS FINE. PUT IN WHATEVER APPLICATION THAT IS IT COMES THROUGH FOR A CHANGE, THAT IS APPROVED. IF IT IS NOT AND YOU ARE OPERATING AT A POINT THAT IF YOU WANT TO GO AT 1:00, 2:00 IN THE MORNING, CHANGE YOUR BUSINESS HOURS, AND ALSO WHAT IS GOING ON AT 1:00, 2:00 IN THE MORNING WITH MUSIC OUTSIDE OF YOUR PREMISES. THAT IS WHAT I SEE. I DO GO OUT AND I RIDE, AND I LOOK AT THIS, AND I HAVE TALKED TO SEVERAL OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS THERE AND THEY WANT TO HELP, BECAUSE ONE OF THOSE ESTABLISHMENTS IS A PRIVATE SOCIAL CLUB WHERE YOU HAVE TO BE A MEMBER TO HIM. AND THEY DO ENFORCE THEIR PARKING LOT, BUT THE VIOLATORS AREN'T NECESSARILY IN THE PARKING LOT , THEY ARE BLOCKING THE STREET, PARKING ON THE SIDEWALKS , DOING ALL OF THIS STUFF, JUST TO BE IN THE PROXIMITY. AGAIN, TO ME, THAT SHOULD BE AN ENFORCEMENT, BECAUSE THEY ARE BLOCKING SIDEWALKS AND PARK ON SIDEWALKS, OR ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT SAID ESTABLISHMENT. SO, I THINK IT IS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER THAT WE, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT SOME OF THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT HAVE THESE VACANT PARCELS , I'M NOT EVEN SURE THEY ARE AWARE THAT PEOPLE ARE LITERALLY PARKING ON THEIR PARCELS , DOING WHATEVER UNTIL 1:00, 2:00 IN THE MORNING, AND THAT IS WHERE A LOT OF THIS NOISE IS COMING FROM . YES, THERE ARE SOME, I THINK , BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH. I AM ALL FOR THAT, WE NEED TO HELP, BUT WE HAVE A MIXED ZONE AND RESIDENTIAL IS MIXED RIGHT ON TOP OF DISNEY'S , AND WE HAVE GOT TO FIGURE THIS OUT AND WORK TOGETHER. I LIKE A PARTY LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, BUT AT SOME POINT, WE HAVE A NOISE ORDINANCE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE . ALL I AM ASKING IS THAT WE CONCENTRATE ON ENFORCING THAT NOISE ORDINANCE IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.

LITERALLY, AFTER 11:00 , WE SHOULD NOT BE HEARING ALL OF THIS, BUT I SEE HEAT MAPS TELLING ME 12:00, 1:00 IN THE MORNING, WE'VE GOT JUST AS MUCH ACTIVITY, ACTUALLY MORE ACTIVITY DURING THE DAY. THAT IS CONCERNING .

>> AND I WAS GOING TO FOLLOW UP, WHAT KIND OF TOOLS DO YOU HAVE IN YOUR TOOLBOX, THERE IS A BUSINESS THAT CLOSES AT 11:00 AND THERE'S STILL ACTIVITY, THERE DOORS ARE OPENED STILL AT

1:00, WHAT CAN BE DONE? >> IF THE SIDE THE BUSINESS HAS POSTED AND THE PROPERTY OWNER IS COOPERATIVE WE CAN ISSUE TRESPASS WARNINGS AFTER A TRESPASS WARNING IS ISSUED AFTER THE INDIVIDUALS ARE FOUND BACK ON THE PROPERTY AGAIN THEY CAN BE SUBJECT TO ARREST FOR TRESPASS AFTER A WARNING .

>> DO YOU HAVE TO DO A TRESPASS AT THE DIRECTION OF THE OWNER, OR CAN YOU DO THAT IF THERE IS--

>> YOU DO IT BY AFFIDAVIT ENFORCEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE

POLICE DEPARTMENT. >> DO THEY POST SPECIFIC SIGNS

FOR THAT? >> YES, THERE IS AN AFFIDAVIT THEY NEED TO DO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND POST SPECIFIC

TIME SIGNS FOR THAT. >> THEY DO THAT THROUGH THE

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POLICE DEPARTMENT? >> YES. THAT WOULD BE A PART OF IT, ACTIVATION, I KNOW OF A PLACE THAT HAS THE SIGNS IN PLACE AND THEY ARE STILL UTILIZING THAT PLACE TO CONGREGATE AT NIGHT. IT IS JUST COMPOUNDING THAT. WE HAVE GOT TENANTS THAT LITERALLY LIVE IN THE BACK OF ONE OF THESE ESTABLISHMENTS THAT THE PEOPLE ARE PARKING THERE TO ENJOY THE MUSIC THAT IS BEING PROVIDED BY THE ESTABLISHMENT , AND THEY ARE TAKING PARKING SPACES OF TENANTS THAT PAY RENT IN A BUILDING AND THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO PARK . SO, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM BEING VERY SPECIFIC AS TO WHERE THESE ISSUES ARE, I THINK WE HAVE GOT TO HELP OUR CITIZENS WHO ARE LIVING IN THESE AREAS AND PROTECT THEM , BUT WE ALSO NEED HELP FROM PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND, WE ARE NOT TRYING TO ENCROACH UPON IT, BUT AT SOME POINT, SOMETHING WILL HAVE TO GIVE HERE. WE HAVE ENTERTAINMENT ZONES IN THE CITY AND COUNTY WHERE YOU CAN GO AND ENTERTAIN, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A NORTH ORDINANCE THAT KICKS IN AT 11:00. THAT IS WHEN WHAT I NEED IS TO REALLY UNDERSTAND.

>> SO DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE THE TOOLS AT YOUR DISPOSAL TO

ADDRESS THIS? >> ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE FACE WITH NOISE ORDINANCE ITSELF IS , THAT IS A MULTISTEP PROCESS WITHIN A 24 HOUR PERIOD. THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE WANTED RUN INTO CHALLENGE AFTER CHALLENGE, THAT THE CLOCK STARTS, RESET THE NEXT DAY. SO, IF WE HAVE A BUSINESS WE HAVE WARNED ME THEY ARE WELL AWARE OF THE NOISE ORDINANCE. ONCE THEY GET TO THE POINT THAT THEY ARE GETTING A WARNING , THEY WILL SHUT DOWN FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS AND THE NEXT DAY, THEY START BACK AGAIN. THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT AS POSSIBLE, PUTTING A LITTLE MORE OF AN ABILITY TO -- FOR REPEAT VIOLATORS OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT OUTSIDE OF THAT 24 HOUR WINDOW, THAT THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL WAY TO SANCTION THEM, WOULD BE GREAT .

>> I THINK THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT.

>> MADAM CHAIR, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, I AM GLAD YOU SAY THAT. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING , YOU HAVE TO GET THREE COMPLAINTS IN 24 HOURS , OR FOUR?

>> FOUR TO GO TO JAIL. >> IN 24 HOURS COMING UP TO FOUR COMPLAINTS IN 24 HOURS FOR OUR OFFICERS TO REACT. SECOND COMPLAINT, THEY MIGHT TURN AND LEAVE , BUT THEY ARE NEVER GOING TO GET TO THE FOURTH COMPLAINT, BECAUSE THEY

UNDERSTAND-- >> GAMING THE SYSTEM . I THINK

WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT. >> JUST TO BE CLEAR, COMMISSIONER, FIRST COMPLAINT IS A WARNING, SECOND COMPLAINT IS CITATION, THIRD COMPLAINT IS NOTICE TO APPEAR, AND THEN THE

FOURTH IS THE ARREST. >> AND THERE HAS GOT TO BE OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE DEALT WITH THE SAME PROBLEM , AND MAYBE WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT, MS. COX , AND SEE IF WE CAN PUT MORE TEETH INTO THAT. IT IS CONTINUING PROBLEM . WE WANT YOU TO STOP IT, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE THE TOOLS TO STOP

IT. SO-- >> I THINK THE NOISE ORDINANCE REVIEW IS IN THE WORKS. WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON THE CONTRACT TO DO THAT . I THINK WHEN WE PASSED IT THE LAST TIME, WE

KNEW IT WAS NOT FINISHED . >> MET WITH A TRANSITION.

>> THAT WAS A TRANSITION PERIOD, SO THAT IS IN THE WORKS, BUT I WILL GET BACK TO YOU ON WHERE THAT IS. I THINK THE CONTRACT JUST GOT APPROVED.

>> BUT IF IT IS IN THE WORKS, WE WANT TO LOOK AT THIS 24 HOUR

THING. >> I THINK IT WAS A REWRITE IS

WHAT WE WERE LOOKING INTO. >> RIGHT. ANYTHIN ELSE ON ANY

OTHER DETAILS? >> JUST SO I AM CLEAR, IT'S REALLY RESET IT SELF, IF THEY DON'T VIOLATE IN 24 HOURS, THEY BASICALLY START OVER AGAIN AND YOU HAVE TO START THE

PROCESS ALL OVER AGAIN? >> YES.

>> MADAM CHAIR, THE FOUR COMPLAINTS EVEN COME INTO PLAY WHEN WE HAVE A DETAILED OFFICER SPECIFICALLY PATROLLING THAT AREA? IT CANNOT BE OFFICER GENERATED TYPE ? THE OFFICER NOTICES THE MUSIC IS TOO LOUD , THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT

IT? >> THE OFFICER COULD TAKE A FELT READING. ONE OF THE OTHER ISSUES WE ARE RUNNING INTO IS THE AMBIENT NOISE OF THE ROADWAY IS GREATER THAN THE

SOUND LIMITATION. >> AND THAT IS A PROBLEM WITH

OUR NOISE ORDINANCE. >> REALLY HARD TO ISOLATE A PARTICULAR, TO BE ABLE TO SAY, THIS IS A PARTICULAR NOISE-- OR BUSINESS IS OPERATING AT THIS DECIMAL RATING.

>> AND ONE OTHER QUESTION . THE DATA FROM THE PRESENTATION,

WHAT IS THE TIMEFRAME FOR IT? >> THAT IS THE LAST-- SINCE

JANUARY 1ST. >> SO YEAR TO DATE.

>> ALMOST A YEAR . WELL, WE APPRECIATE IT. A VERY CLEAR

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REPORT. YES, SIR? >> ONE QUICK COMMENT , THE 25TH STREET PROBLEM IS KIND OF SPREAD OUT TO A CERTAIN EXTENT . NORTH 25TH STREET , ET CETERA, AND IT IS CONTINUOUSLY MOBILE. JETTY PARK WAS SELF-CONTAINED AND THE PATROLS HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY SUCCESSFUL . IT IS ELIMINATED FOR THE MOST PART, THIS ISSUE. THERE IS HOPE . IT IS EFFECTIVE

. >> COMMISSIONER, JUST FOR YOUR CLARIFICATION, WE CALL IT 25TH STREET DETAIL, BUT IT IS ALMOST LIKE A LITTLE SQUARE AREA. FOUR BLOCKS .

>> IT IS A SMALL AREA, BUT NOT AS CONTAINED AS JETTY PARK.

THERE THE ATLANTIC OCEAN. OKAY, ANY OTHER FURTHER-- THANK YOU, VERY MUCH. THIS HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL. WE WILL MOVE ON.

[b. Resolution 24-05: Granting or Denying a Time Extension for the Sale Agreement of 612 N 25th St]

>> NEXT ITEM IS FPR RESOLUTION 20-25, RESOLUTION OF FT. PIERCE REDEVELOPING AGENCY, APPEAR IN THE SPECIAL DISTRICT OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA, ORGANIZING AN AMENDMENT TO THE PROPERTY SALE AGREEMENT AT 612 NORTH 25TH STREET, RELATED TO A REQUEST FOR EXTENSION OF TIME TO INCLUDE LEGISLATION PROVIDING FOR ACCESSIBILITY CLOTH AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE

DATE. >> MS. COX.

>> YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE MIRIAM GARCIA WILL MAKE A PRESENTATION AND RECOMMENDATION ON THIS ITEM.

>> OKAY.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, FPRA BOARD . GREAT TO BE BEFORE YOU TODAY. I HAVE A PRESENTATION REGARDING OUR SURPLUS PROPERTY EXTENSION REQUEST, HOWEVER, PRIOR TO THE MEETING , I DID SPEAK TO THE PROPERTY OWNER, AND HAS A DIFFERENT REQUEST . I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO FORWARD TO SPEAK, REGARDING

HIS REQUEST ? >> I THINK SO, PLEASE COME FORWARD, MR. LEE. IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD EVEN

THOUGH WE KNOW YOU. >> HAD A MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. I AM HERE TONIGHT AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PATIENCE . YOU CAN PUT THAT VISION UP THERE. I WANT TO FIRST THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY , MAINLY TO YOU, COMMISSIONER BRODRICK AND YOU, COMMISSIONER TAYLOR , BECAUSE THIS STARTED LONG BEFORE YOU ALL CAME ON THE BOARD. COMMISSIONER GAINES AND COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, I THINK YOU ALL HAD NO SOME OF WHAT WAS GOING ON. YOU MENTIONED 25TH STREET , JUST 25TH STREET, ALSO KNOWN AS MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR BOULEVARD. WHEN I WAS IN THE LEGISLATOR, IT PAINED ME TO SEE WHAT THAT STREET LOOKS LIKE . AND IT IS NOT UNLIKE MANY STREETS NAMED AFTER DR. KING THROUGHOUT AMERICA. 75% OF OR MORE OF THE STREETS ACROSS AMERICA NAMED AFTER DR. KING , THEY ARE USUALLY IN REALLY BAD AREAS. AND THE VISION THAT I HAD DURING MY TIME IN THE LEGISLATOR WAS TO MAKE 25TH STREET/ MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR BOULEVARD , SOMETHING OUR NATION CAN USE AS A MODEL TO HELP BEAUTIFY THEIR STREETS NAMED IN HONOR OF DR. KING .

MAYOR HUDSON WAS A PART OF THE INITIAL PROJECT . IF YOU GO TO RESTORE VILLAGE.COM, YOU WILL SEE HER UNVEILING THE SIGN .

WHEN I GREW UP IN THAT AREA, IT WAS NOT CALLED NORTHWEST FORT PIERCE. IT WAS CALLED THE LINCOLN PARK COMMUNITY. IT WAS LIKE A VILLAGE . AND PEOPLE THERE, WHEN MY PARENTS WENT TO WORK , EVERYBODY ON THAT STREET LOOKED OUT FOR THE KIDS. THEY DID NOT HAVE TO LOG LOCK' THEIR DOORS OR ANYTHING. OVER THE YEARS, CRIME INFESTED THAT AREA, AND PEOPLE LOST HOPE. AND IT BECAME -- AND SADLY TO SAY, I BELIEVE THE MOST UNSIGHTLY AREA OF FORT PIERCE . WE DECIDED WE WANTED TO REBRAND IT, BRING IT BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL NAME, LINCOLN PARK , AND PUT IT OUT FRONT AND TREAT IT LIKE A VILLAGE. WE NAMED IT

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THE VILLAGE AT LINCOLN PARK. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR, AND I THINK YOU HAVE PROBABLY SEEN IT, COMMISSIONER BRODRICK, BUT IF YOU TURN NORTH ON ORANGE AVENUE , JUST BEFORE YOU GET TO AVENUE D, YOU WILL SEE, IN MY OPINION, THE NICEST SIGN OF ANY SIGN IN FT. PIERCE . AND IT SAYS, WELCOME TO THE VILLAGE OF LINCOLN PARK . BUT WHAT IT ALSO DOES , IT TELLS THE PERSON VISITING OR DRIVING THE STREET FROM HISTORY , HOME OF THE FLORIDA HIGHWAYMAN AND DORA NEALE HURSTON. WHEN I WAS ON THE LEGISLATION, THE MAYOR, MYSELF, THE COUNTY , A BUNCH OF OTHER PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY , WE UNVEILED THAT AND THAT WAS THE BEGINNING OF THE RESTORING THE VILLAGE INITIATIVE . THEN, THEY SAY, THE SIGN, THAT IS A NICE THING, BUT WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO CREATE SOME TYPE OF ACTIVITY? YOU NEED TO REVITALIZE THAT AREA, CREATE JOBS, BRING HOPE. WE GOT A LITTLE AMBITIOUS . WE WENT OUT, THROUGH THE LIGHTHOUSE FOUNDATION, A FOUNDATION THAT I CREATED , AND THERE WAS A GUY BY THE NAME OF AND COIN, WHO HAD 6.78 NEXT TO GARDEN CITY SCHOOL AND HE REACHED OUT TO ME AND SAID, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND YOU WANT TO BRING THAT COMMUNITY BACK. I HAVE THIS LAND , I WANT $375,000 FOR IT , AND I WANT YOU TO TAKE THAT LAND AND SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO TO HELP IMPROVE, JUMPSTART THAT COMMUNITY. I SAID, I HAVE TO RAISE THAT MONEY, AND BARGAINING , I JUST ASKED HIM , COULD YOU-- AND I THOUGHT I WOULD TRY TO GET HIM DOWN TO $300,000. I SAID, CAN YOU LET US HAVE IT FOR $240,000? TO MY SURPRISE, HE SAID, YES. I SAID, CAN YOU WORK WITH US AND ALLOW US TO RAISE $100,000, AND WE HAVE A THREE YEAR BALLOON ON THE 140? AND HE SAID, SURE. TO MY SURPRISE , THIS COMMUNITY STOOD UP AND WE RAISED $240,000 , WITHOUT A BUSINESS PLAN OR ANYTHING , AND WE BOUGHT THAT LAND , AND WE DONATED IT TO THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB FOR A NEW BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB HOUSE THERE. THIS IS WHERE WE GOT A LITTLE TOO AMBITIOUS. THEN, WE DECIDED, WE WANTED TO BRING SOMETHING OTHER THAN BASKETBALL, FOOTBALL, BASEBALL, THE TRADITIONAL SPORTS TO THE AREA. EVERYBODY CAN'T PLAY FOOTBALL, EVERYBODY CAN'T PLAY BASKETBALL, BUT DO SOMETHING LIKE GOLF, IT IS ON THE RISE . SO, WE GOT WITH THE GABLER FAMILY , AND THEY AGREED TO DO THE SURVEY WORK AND EXCAVATION.

DONATE, YOU ARE TALKING SERIOUS MONEY. JIMMY FAZIO , THEY DESIGNED GOLF COURSES ALL OVER THE WORLD. THEY DO DESIGNED TRUMP INTERNATIONAL DOWN THERE. THEY CAME AND SAID, THEY WOULD DECIDE THE COURSE THAT NO COST. JOHN SAID, THIS WILL BE AN ARTIFICIAL TURF . THAT IS WHEN I GOT COMMISSIONER BRODRICK LIKE I SAY, YOU GET INTO THESE PROJECTS AND YOU DON'T REALLY REALIZE WHAT YOU ARE GETTING INTO UNTIL YOU START DIGGING INTO THOSE CALLS. THAT PROJECT ENDED UP COSTING $7 MILLION.

THEN, COVID HIT. IT HURT OUR FUNDRAISING EFFORTS . I AM HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE RAISED ALMOST $1 MILLION FOR THAT PROJECT. SO, WE TOOK THE GOLF OUT , AND A VERY WEALTHY DONOR TOLD US THAT WE SHOULD TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT, ROWING .

IF YOU GET A CHANCE, OR WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE, GOOGLE "A MOST BEAUTIFUL THING." IT IS A TRUE STORY ABOUT GANGS IN CHICAGO . THEY TOOK THESE KIDS OUT OF VARIOUS AREAS IN LINCOLN PARK, PUT THEM ON A BOAT TOGETHER, AND IT IS A BEAUTIFUL STORY, TRUE STORY. WE STARTED OFF ON THE THEME OF ROWING , AND WILL OLMSTEAD , YOU WILL BE HEARING MORE ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE WE ARE MOVING IT TO A DIFFERENT SITE, BECAUSE SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAY, YOU ARE GOING TO PUT THOSE KIDS DOWN IN THAT CANAL, AND ALLIGATORS ARE DOWN THERE. WE DID NOT WANT TO-- BUT THEY SAY, ALLIGATORS ARE DOWN THERE. CRAIG NELSON--

>> IN FLORIDA, IT IS A BODY OF WATER IN FLORIDA.

>> GREG NELSON , WILLIE AND I WENT UP TO SEE WHERE THEY HAVE

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A ROWING TEAM AND THEY TRAIN , AND THAT IS WHERE THEY TRAIN, IN A CANAL JUST LIKE THAT. SINCE WE HAD THE WORST THING TO HAPPEN, ONE OF THOSE KIDS GET TAKEN BY AN ALLIGATOR, YOU KNOW? WE DID NOT NEED THAT KIND OF PRESS . THAT PROJECT IS BEING MOVED TO ANOTHER AREA, AND YOU WILL HEAR MORE ABOUT IT. BACK TO THIS PROPERTY. I TOLD WILL, I SAID, WILL, -- IF WE MOVE THE ROWING , I HAVE GONE OUT AND PAID ALL OF THIS MONEY FOR THE LAND AND TOLD PEOPLE WHAT WILL HAPPEN, WHAT WILL THEY DECIDE? HE SAID, YOU'VE GOT THIS GARDEN YOU WANT TO DO AND DOWN DEAR, YOU ONLY HAVE TWO NARROW LOTS, ONLY 45 FEET WIDE, 125 FEET DEEP . WE HAVE SEVEN ACRES DOWN THERE AND YOU HAVE THIS VISION TO DO ABLE TO GARDEN WITH HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE IN IT . SO, WE DECIDED TO SHIFT THE PROJECT FROM WHERE WE ARE TO THERE. AND PUT THE BOTANICAL GARDEN THERE . WE ARE GOING TO DO A COMMUNITY GARDEN, TEACH THE KIDS TO GROW FRUITS AND VEGETABLES. WE ARE GOING TO PUT IN PICKLEBALL COURTS, AND A PUTT PUTT GOLF COURSE IN THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB THERE. I GAVE THAT HISTORY TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I AM REQUESTING THAT THE CITY-- YOU CAN JUST TAKE THE PROPERTY BACK , BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NO NEED FOR US TO TRY TO DO IT THERE, WHEN WE CAN DO A MUCH BIGGER PROJECT. THE REASON I CHOSE THAT SITE, I WAS TRYING TO GET ON THE NORTH END NEXT TO GARDEN CITY, SOMETHING GOING ON THERE. THIS WAS RIGHT IN THE HEART . AND I KNOW SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAD ASKED, WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PARKING . IT WAS A WHOLE LOT OF CONCERN. I THINK MR. JOHNSON , YOU ARE ONE OF THE ONES THAT SAID, OKAY-- AND WE TALKED, MAYOR YOU MAY RECALL, THIS WILL BE LIKE A WALKING PART. I SAID DOWN THERE, WE HAVE CYNTHIA PARKING . IT IS A BETTER PLACE. IT CAN BE MULTIPLE TIMES LARGER, AND WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY PROPERTY WE PURCHASED FROM THE CITY, THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO EVENTUALLY TAKE THE WHOLE BLOCK, BUT THE PARKING TO THE SOUTH OF IT IS TIED UP IN ALMOST AVENUE E. IT IS TIED UP IN A FAMILY THEY HAD FOR SALE , BUT IT WAS DIFFICULT TO GET. I HAD TO TAKE THAT OFF THE TABLE.

THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, IT WAS OWNED BY ANOTHER FAMILY, THE WILLIAMS FAMILY, AND THEY WANTED $40,000 FOR THAT LITTLE LOT. BUT HE SENSED IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY, THEY REDUCED IT TO 30,000, AND THE SON DID NOT WANT TO SELL AT ALL. I WAS LEFT WITH THOSE TWO LITTLE LOTS, I JUST THINK WE GOT A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE IT, MAKE IT EVEN BIGGER, AND BETTER . THE BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING IS, THAT WHOLE PROJECT ON 25TH STREET, THE GARDEN CITY PROJECT, EVEN THIS, I HAD TWO VERY WEALTHY PEOPLE COME TO ME AND SAY, I WANT TO HELP YOU WITH THAT, HOW MUCH IS THE FENCE GOING TO COST, I SAID $12,000. I THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO WRITE $1000. HE WROTE A $12,000 CHECK TO THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, BUT WE ARE GOING TO TRANSFER THAT MONEY TO THE FENCE DOWN THERE. ANOTHER GUY, VERY WEALTHY GUY SAID, I WANT TO DONATE TO BUILD TWO NURSERIES, I WANT TO DONATE ALL THE PLANTS. ASIDE COMPANY, JEROME BRIAN , FORT, WHEN WE PURCHASED THE FIRST LOT FROM A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER TO DO THIS PROJECT , HE SENT HIS TEAM OUT, AND THEY CLEARED THE LOT , IN A FREE, JEROME RYAN, TREES AND EVERYTHING. WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO , I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE HISTORY, IF ANYBODY EVER ASKS YOU WHAT IS GOING ON THERE. AND MAYOR, I THINK YOU KNOW FIRSTHAND BECAUSE YOU JOINED IN WITH ME WHEN WE STARTED DOING THESE AWARDS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, YOU DO THE GOLDEN HAMMER. WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL A NEHEMIAH AWARD. ANYBODY ON MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR BOULEVARD FROM DELAWARE AVENUE TO JUANITA AVENUE THAT DOES ANYTHING TO IMPROVE THEIR PROPERTY, WE GIVE THEM THE NEHEMIAH AWARD , AND YOU WILL DRIVE DOWN AND YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF THOSE PROPERTIES -- DONALD SCOTT, WHICH GOT THE GOLDEN HAMMER, THE TIRE STORE , A COUPLE OF CHURCHES, BUT WE ARE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO TAKE PRIDE , AND I WILL TELL YOU, IT HAS BEEN A BURDEN ON ME. I HAVE GOTTEN CRITICISM THING, YOU COULD BE INVESTING

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THAT MONEY. I GOT CLOSE TO $30,000 TIED IN THAT ONE PROJECT, BUT I THINK MY HEART IS IN THE RIGHT PLACE WITH THAT. TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT, HE I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS, BECAUSE WE APPLIED FOR IT , AN EXTENSION, YOU ALL GAVE IT TO US. ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE WERE HAVING, MS. COX, I REMEMBER WE HAD , AND I SAW YOU GO IN AND I WAS TELLING YOU ABOUT THE DIFFICULTY OF HAVING BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS A PARTICULAR TEMPLATE YOU CAN USE TO DO ANYTHING LIKE THIS. AND THIS, YOU ALL GAVE DIRECTION THAT YOU GUYS APPLY FOR A PERMIT AND BUILD BY A CERTAIN TIME . I HAD A GENERAL CONTRACTOR TOLD ME, MAN -- AND I WAS TRYING TO DO THIS THING , I HAD A LAND PLANNER THEY DID THAT, BUT THEY SAID, HEY, THIS IS ABOUT AS FAR AS WE CAN COME, AND ME. I HAD THIS VISION , BUT I START SEEING PEOPLE DROPPING OUT. WHEN WILL OLMSTEAD TOLD ME , HEY-- I BELIEVE EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON. CRAIG NELSON, WHO HIS FAMILY, THE EGAN FAMILY, BIG SUPPORTERS .

THEY HAVE-- AND IT IS PUBLIC RECORD , THEY HAVE DONATED DOLLARS TO BEAUTIFY THAT STREET OVER THERE. WE HAVE A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF SUPPORT . AND MY GOAL, THE GOAL OF RESTORING THE VILLAGE COMMITTEE , AND SOME PEOPLE SAY, A LOFTY GOAL, BUT IT IS TO MAKE IT ONE OF THE PRETTIEST STREETS IN FORT PIERCE AND YOU BEGIN TO SEE PRIDE . JUST TO TELL YOU A LITTLE ABOUT WHY THIS IS DESIGNED LIKE THAT, THAT WALKWAY , AND YOU WALK IN, AND I CALL IT THE GARDEN OF HOPE, A LOT OF THOSE KIDS OVER THERE FEEL THERE IS NO HOPE . SOME OF THEM HAVE NOT BEEN OUT OF THAT AREA. BUT WHEN YOU WALK IN, THERE IS GOING TO BE LITTLE STONES , AND IT WILL HAVE.

TUBMAN , FREDERICK DOUGLAS, MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR, MADAM BAKER , AND THESE PEOPLE, RIGHT OUT OF SLAVERY, SOME OF THEM, THEY DID MORE AND HAD LESS OPPORTUNITIES THAN A LOT OF THESE KIDS TODAY. AND WHEN I TAKE THESE KIDS THROUGH THAT GARDEN AND GET THEM TO WALK, YOU TALK ABOUT EVERYBODY IS AGAINST YOU AND YOU CAN'T MAKE IT, HOW DO YOU THINK THESE PEOPLE FEEL? THEY MADE IT WITH LESS AND YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE OPPORTUNITIES . SO, THAT IS KIND OF WHERE I AM NOW. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU. WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN DOWN THERE AT THE PROPERTY AT GARDEN CITY .

>> I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR WHAT THE REQUEST IS?

>> YOU CAN JUST TAKE THE PROPERTY BACK . BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, I KNOW YOU HAVE A STIPULATION, BEING THAT WE ARE GOING TO DEVELOP IT, IT IS SO SMALL . REALLY, I GOT KIND OF BEAT DOWN , BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO GET THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS AROUND, JUST LIKE THEY DID HEATHROW BOTANICAL GARDEN, IT STARTED OUT SMALL , AND THEY STARTED BUYING THE PROPERTIES AROUND IT . PEOPLE ARE SAYING, WELL, YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO-- I'M NOT MAKING MONEY . THIS IS BEING DONATED TO THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB . IT IS GOING TO TEACH THOSE KIDS HISTORY. THEY ARE STILL GOING TO DO IT DOWN THERE. THEY ARE GOING TO MAINTAIN IT AND THE WHOLE NINE YARDS. THE BEAUTIFUL THING I LIKE ABOUT THIS , UNLESS YOU HONOR MY REQUEST TONIGHT, I HAVE NEVER ASKED THE CITY , OR THE COUNTY TO BE A PART OF THIS . THIS WAS ALL DONE WITH LOCAL PEOPLE STEPPING UP , SHOWING PEOPLE WHAT CAN HAPPEN WHEN WE COME TOGETHER AND NOT DEPEND ON THE GOVERNMENT TO BE DOING EVERYTHING FOR US. SO, WHAT I AM ASKING OF YOU TONIGHT IS, YOU CAN HAVE IT BACK, BUT DONATE THE MONEY I PAID FOR IT TO THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB, WHATEVER I PAID.

>> WELL I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO . I WAS TRYING TO GET TO YOUR REQUEST SO I CAN FIND OUT FROM MS. HEDGES.

>> MADAM MAYOR, MADAM CHAIR, I APOLOGIZE. BOARD MEMBERS , THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I AM HEARING THE NEW REQUEST TONIGHT. MY RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE BOARD TO TO TAKE NO ACTION ON THE RESOLUTION, PENDING BEFORE IT. STAFF AND I WILL GET WITH MR. LEE TO ACCOMPLISH HIS GOAL OF TURNING THE PROPERTY BACK OVER TO THE CITY. THAT WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION THAT WILL HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THIS BOARD FOR APPROPRIATE ACTION RELATED TO THE DONATION OF MONEY THAT IS NOW THE FPRA'S MONEY , AND WE CAN PROCEED , AS WELL DIRECT TO AT

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A LATER DATE. TODAY, I RECOMMEND THE MOTION BE TO TAKE NO ACTION AND WE WILL PROCEED AS REQUESTED.

>> AND I CAN LIVE WITH THAT . BUT I KNOW IN MY HEART, YOU ARE

GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING. >> YES, WE ARE. YET, WE ARE.

>> BUT THANK YOU ALL . THIS WILL BE SOMETHING YOU WILL BE PROUD OF. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, THE HIGHWAYMEN MUSEUM , I AM SO GLAD TO SEE YOU ALL WORKING WITH THEM ACTUALLY, THAT WAS MY BABY. THAT LATE HIGHWAYMAN JAMES GIBSON AND I TALKED, AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU KNOW THIS, BUT I DO BELIEVE, COMMISSIONERS THAT USE IT WHERE YOU SIT , YOU SHOULD KNOW HISTORY WHEN SOMEONE TRIES TO TELL YOU SOMETHING AND YOU KNOW IT IS WRONG. THAT IS WHY I WANT TO GIVE YOU THIS BIT OF INFORMATION. THE HIGHWAYMEN MUSEUM STARTED WITH A CONVERSATION WITH JAMES GIBSON , WHO WAS ONE OF THE RENOWNED HIGHWAYMAN . THE REASON HE AND I STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT, BECAUSE THEY WERE TRYING TO DO IT IN 20 ZERO . AND STATE REPRESENTATIVE MASON TOLD THE GUY HE SHOULD TALK TO ME. HE INVITED ME UP TO CHILI'S RESTAURANT ON U.S. 1. HE TOOK FROM HIS COMMITTEE AND TOLD ME THE HIGHWAYMEN-- I GREW UP HERE AND I KNEW THE HIGHWAYMEN AS A KID, AND THEY HAD A COUPLE OF HIGHWAYMEN AND THEY WANTED TO BUILD THE MUSEUM UP THERE AND I SAID, NO. SO, THIS GUY, WHEN I DIALED THAT BILL IN THE LEGISLATOR, HE FOLLOWED ME THROUGH EVERY COMMITTEE AND TRIED TO GET THE STATE REPRESENTATIVE TO. BUT AARON GROHL , WHO IS NOW SENATOR GROHL, AND GAIL HAROLD, NOW SENATOR HAROLD, THEY ALL STOOD WITH ME AND COSIGNED ON THAT BILL AND WE GOT IT PASSED. THE GOVERNOR WOULD HAVE SIGNED IT, BUT THAT WAS THE YEAR THEY HAD THE SHOOTING AT PARKLAND, AND IT SUCKED ALL THE AIR OUT OF THE ROOM. I GOT WITH REPRESENTATIVE JOHNSON, WHO REPLACED THE , AND SHE REFILED , AND IT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY , AND WE GOT THAT GREAT MONEY.

THERE ARE SOME GREAT PROJECT COMING OUT OF FORT PIERCE IN 2025 . IT IS GOING TO BE THE YEAR. YOU'VE GOT THE HIGHWAY MUSEUM, THIS GARDEN THAT WILL COME ONLINE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD INC . IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHERE YOU ARE WITH THE ZORA HOUSE, BECAUSE WE HAVE GOT TWO GRANTS. I'M JUST KIND OF EXCITED TONIGHT, MAYOR. OKAY, SO, WE GOT TO THAT. YEAH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING AND EXPLAINING THAT TO US. I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY TAKE IT FROM HERE . WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING

YOU DO FOR FORT PIERCE. >> I APPRECIATE YOU ALL TOO. BY THE WAY, I WANT TO GIVE THE MAYOR A PLUG. I'M NOT READY FOR ANYTHING, I'M NOT TRYING TO GET A BOAT.

>> NEITHER AM I. >> SHE, I WANT TO SAY THIS TO YOU IN YOUR FACE, SHE HAS BEEN BEHIND A LOT OF THE PROJECTS THAT I DID WHEN I WAS IN LEGISLATOR NOW. ONE FINAL TIDBIT , AND COMMISSIONER TAYLOR , AND COMMISSIONER BRODRICK, I'D LIKE TO TAKE BOTH OF YOU ON A TOUR ONE DAY TO SEE IT, I WAS CONTACTED BY HOADLEY GIBSON I WANT YOU TO HELP ME WITH THE PINEGROVE CEMETERY PROJECT. WHAT IS THE PINEGROVE CEMETERY PROJECT? IT IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE RIVERVIEW CEMETERY . THAT STREET, THAT CEMETERY, IF YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN, IT WAS A DIRT ROAD , IT HAD NO SIGNAGE . IT LOOKED REALLY BAD . AND WE EMBARKED ON A BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFICATION PROJECT. WE PAVED THE ROAD . MR. GIBSON DONATED THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THE ROAD AND WE WENT INTO THE COMMUNITY, AND WE DID WITH THIS OTHER PROJECT, AND WE ASKED PEOPLE TO SPONSOR COLUMNS . IF YOU LOOK NOW, THERE ARE COLUMNS ALL THE WAY AROUND THE CEMETERY. HE WILL SEE FAMILIES NAMES WHO PURCHASED THE COLUMN . WHEN YOU GO INTO THE CEMETERY, FROM THE SOUTH, YOU HAVE A BIG SIGN, LIKE YOU ARE DRIVING INTO A SUBDIVISION THAT SAYS, PINEGROVE CEMETERY, GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN. AND THERE IS A GRANITE MONUMENT WITH THE DONORS AND YOUR NAME IS ON THAT. I WANT TO THANK YOU.

WELL, THANK YOU. I WAS THERE FOR THE OPENING NIGHT. IT IS WEIRD, BUT I LIKE CEMETERIES. THAT IS JUST ONE OF THE THINGS.

I AM GLAD WE THINK IT.

DAY. >> MADAM CHAIR?

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MUCH. >> MADAM CHAIR?

>> I DON'T THINK WE NEED YOU ANYMORE, MIRIAM . YES, MS.

HEDGES. >> MADAM CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS, BUT WAS POINTED OUT TO ME WAS, WHAT COULD TECHNICALLY DO IS APPROVE THE RESOLUTION DENIED HIS REQUEST FOR EXTENSION, FINDING HIM IN VIOLATION OF THE AGREEMENT, AUTHORIZING US TO RETHINK THE PROPERTY. THAT OPTION DOES EXIST. WHAT I PROPOSED EARLIER IS THE NICER WAY TO DO THIS, THAT WOULD STILL BE MY RECOMMENDATION, BUT YOU COULD STILL TECHNICALLY--

>> I WOULD LIKE TO BE NICE. >> WRAP UP A DATE AND HAVE HIM

SIGN OVER TO THE CITY. >> TECHNICALLY, THE OPTION DIDN'T EXIST UNDER THE RESOLUTION. I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. WE NEED A MOTION TO TABLE?

>> THAT IS FINE. >> WITHDRAWAL . TABLE MEANS IT

WILL COME BACK AT SOME POINT. >> MOTION TO--

>> YOU CAN DO A MOTION AND TAKE NO ACTION.

>> MADAM CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE NO ACTION ON RESOLUTION

24-05. >> SECOND.

>> THERE IS A MOTION AND SECOND , CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, COMMISSIONER TAYLOR, COMMISSIONER BRODRICK, COMMISSIONER GAINES, CHAIRWOMAN

[c. Discussion and direction to amend Exhibit A "Rates & Services Addendum" to the Master Services Agreement with BEEFREE to add a sixth vehicle until either May 10, 2025, September 30, 2025, or for the remaining term of the contract.]

HUDSON. >> YES, MA'AM . THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE NEXT ITEM'S DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION TO AMEND EXHIBIT A, RIGHT ADDENDUM TO THE MASTER SERVICE AGREEMENT UNTIL OTHER MAY 10TH, 2025, SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025, OR FOR THE REMAINING TERM OF THE CONTRACT.

>> MS. COX. >> YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE GOT OUT WITH THAT WOULD GO OVER THE THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS YOU GUYS ASKED FOR TO THE BEEFREE CONTRACT. SHE WILL BE BRIEF

TONIGHT. >> MADAM MAYOR. BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I HAD A CLARIFICATION. I WATCHED THE FPRA MEETING FROM LAST MONTH. LAST MONTH, IT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE AGENDA TO ADD A VEHICLE , BUT TONIGHT WE ARE DOING A SIX?

>> WELL , IT IS THE FIFTH TESLA VEHICLE , BECAUSE WE HAVE ADDITIONAL VEHICLES FOR A.D.A., SO THERE WAS A LITTLE CONFUSION

. >> SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME? IT IS THE SAME THING. WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT I THINK THE FIVE VEHICLES LAST TIME IT WAS THE TESLA VEHICLES

AND WE WERE NOT CLEAR. >> WELL, GOOD FOR YOU .

>> WE WANT FIVE TESLAS AND A VAN .

>> NOW WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT .

>> I THOUGHT IT WAS THE SAME ITEM. I WAS LIKE, MAYBE I AM

MISSING SOMETHING. >> GOOD CATCH. MS. DEL GATO .

>> I PRESENT THE THREE OPTIONS, EACH WITH DIFFERENT TERMS AND ASSOCIATED COST . WE HAVE OPTION ONE , EXTENSION TERM WOULD BE DECEMBER 11TH, 2024 TO MAY 10TH, 2025 . THERE IS A ONE-TIME FEE OF VEHICLE WRAP, $1500, CHARGER INSTALL, AND PARKING GARAGES $1250, AND THE MONTHLY COST FOR THIS ADDITIONAL VEHICLE WOULD BE $10,833. OPTION 2 EXPANSION TERM IS DECEMBER 11TH, 2024 TO SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025 . THAT IS UNTIL THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. ONE-TIME FEE WOULD BE THE VEHICLE WRAP FOR $1500, THE CHARGER INSTALL FEE WOULD BE WAIVED. TOTAL MONTHLY COST $2833 . OPTION THREE, THE EXPANSION TERM WOULD BE DECEMBER 11TH TO 2024 UNTIL THE END OF THE CONTRACT TERM, WHICH WOULD BE MAY 2027 .

>> MAY 2027? OKAY. >> THE ONE-TIME FEES WOULD BE WAIVED AND THE MONTHLY VEHICLE COST WOULD BE $2250.