[1. Call to Order]
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>> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER, MONDAY, JANUARY 13, 2025. PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> CALL THE ROLL CALL PLEASE. >>
>> YES? >> I WAS GOING TO CALL THE
AGENDA . >> I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR EXCUSE FOR COMMISSIONER JOHNSON ABSENCE.
>> MOTION TO EXCUSE. >> SECOND.
>> SECOND. >> CALL THE ROLL CALL.
[4. Approval of Minutes]
>> APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE DECEMBER 9, 2024 CITY
COMMISSION MEETING . >> CALL THE ROLL CALL PLEASE.
>> DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA.
>> ANY CHANGES IF NOT I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE .
>> MOTION AND SECOND. CALL THE ROLL CALL PLEASE.
[7. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]
>> THIS IS OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. WE WILL GIVE YOU IN SECOND WARNING. ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE COMMISSION?
>> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.
>> ADDRESSES 1171 FIFTH AVENUE. I JUST WANT TO HAVE A COMMENT -- I EMAILED ALL OF YOU AND GOT THE RESPONSE FROM COMMISSIONER GAINES AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CONGRATULATIONS FOR STANDING WITH THE COMMUNITY. HAVING THE INSIGHT, BUT MY DISAPPROVAL WITH HOW YOU APPROVED THE SPLITTING OF THE PROPERTIES FOR THE HOTEL PROJECT AND SELLING IT OFF, IF YOU HAD TO APPROVE THAT YOU SHOULD'VE HAD APPROVAL WITH CONTINGENCIES.
CONDITIONAL APPROVAL, THAT WOULD ALLOW THE MONEY TO GO INTO ESCROW FACT ALREADY THAT WE HAVE A DEVELOPER THAT HAS NOT BEEN TRUSTWORTHY, DELAYED SIX YEARS. TO JUST ALLOW HIM TO GET THE MONEY, WE COULD'VE DONE THE APPROVAL AND HAVE CONDITIONAL APPROVAL AND PUT THE MONEY THAT IS BEING COLLECTED IN ESCROW SO THAT WE WOULD'VE HAD IT SINCE WE HAVE NO A SURETY BOND. ONE SO VERY DISAPPOINTED THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY OR ANYONE ELSE DID NOT THINK ABOUT IT. THE OTHER THING, WE NEED TO MOVE AND HAVE A DECISION SO WE CAN MAKE A DECISION FOR A CITY MANAGER. WE HAVE TO HAVE A CITY MANAGER.
PERSONALLY FOND OF LINDA COX AS A PERSONAL PERSON AND SHE HAS BEEN A VERY COMMITTED STAFF MEMBER OF THE CITY. WE REALLY NEED AN EXPERIENCED, SEASON CITY MANAGER TO HELP US THROUGH
THIS PERIOD. THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, ANYONE ELSE?
>> CHRIS EINSTEIN, REGARDING THE KINGS LANDING PROJECT, YOU GUYS ALREADY HAVE YOUR MINDS MADE UP . SEEM TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO DESPITE WHAT WE BRING FORWARD, BUT IN THE MEANTIME IT IS HAVING NEW PLAYERS, CHANGING CONTRACTS, ADDITIONAL DELAYS, NOT THE ORIGINAL DEAL AS WE STATED, PROMISED THIS WOULD BE DOWN, BUT NOW IT IS LIKE A SHELL GAME, SEE WHERE EVERYTHING ENDS UP NOW. IN THE MEANTIME, I STILL AM QUESTIONING THE HOTEL AS A RIGHT HOTEL FOR THE AREA.
I AM PERSONALLY A MARRIOTT MEMBER, HIGHEST LEVEL ELITE. I LOGGED 149 NIGHTS LAST YEAR, OVER $150,000 PERSONALLY SO I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE MARRIOTT BRAND.
>> GO AHEAD. >> CAN I GET MY TIME BACK ?
>> UH-HUH. >> AS MUCH AS I LOVE THE AUTOGRAPHED BRAND WHICH IS THE PREFER WHEN, WHAT WOULD THE
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PRICE RANGE BE IF THAT COULD SUSTAIN HERE, BUT I WOULD HATE TO SEE US GO DOWN THE ROAD TO ATTRIBUTE AND START ALL OVER AGAIN, BECAUSE IT IS NOT THE RIGHT FIT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE HOTELS, TYPICALLY BETWEEN 300 AND $800 A NIGHT. A LOT OF THOSE CITIES THAT THE HOTELS ARE IN HER DESTINATION CITIES AND OUR CITY RIGHT NOW DOES NOT HAVE THAT MUCH TO OFFER LIKE THESE OTHER CITIES DO. WE COULD, BUT WE CANNOT SEEM TO GET OUT OF OUR OWN WAY. WE DO NOT HAVE RETAIL OR SHOPS AND THE ONES WE DO ARE CLOSED ON SUNDAY. WE DO NOT HAVE THE RESTAURANTS. I KNOW THEY ARE BUILDING SOME OF THIS, BUT SOME NUMBERS HAVE BEEN SKEWED, FROM DALE, WTA SAID THE NUMBERS IN THE SPREADSHEET WERE MADE UP AND PLUGGED IN AND NO FORMULATIONS FOR THEM. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE UPDATED FIGURES AND STATS FROM THE STR S BEEN OXFORD, ECONOMICS AND ETE TO SEE IF WHAT WE COULD SPORT, BECAUSE OF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE CONSULTANT AND INFORMATION AND REPORTS, THEN WHAT THEY PREDICTED FOR YEAR ONE THROUGH FIVE OF THE HOTEL, WHAT THEY PREDICTED WAS A LOT HIGHER THAN WHAT THE ACTUAL ADR REP PARS AND OCCUPANCY RATES WERE FOR THE NATIONAL AVERAGE. I HAVE THOSE HERE AND HAVE TO PULL UP NEW REPORT, BUT I GOT BACK INTO TOWN SO I DID NOT HAVE TIME TO FULLY PREPARE FOR THIS, BUT I THINK AT LEAST WHAT YOU GET THE EXTENSION YOU SHOULD AT LEAST DOUBLE CHECK AND SEE IF THE NUMBER SUPPORT THIS. I WOULD SAY MARRIOTT AND DEVELOPERS , PROBABLY DOING THIS AND CHECKING THEIR OWN FACTS AND NUMBERS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME EVERYTHING IS A STALL TACTIC. WE NEED TO PREPARE FOR THAT OR MAKE SURE THIS IS NOT ANOTHER GAME THAT HE PLAYS, SET US BACK EVEN FURTHER. FOR ALL WE KNOW THEY WILL COME BACK AND SAY TRIBUTE IS NOT THE RIGHT BRAND, BUT PULLING OUT LIKE EVERYTHING>> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION PLEASE
[a. Fort Pierce Utilities Authority Advisory Committee Second Annual Work Plan Presentation]
COME FORWARD. SEEING NO MOVEMENT, MOVING ON.>> MIX ITEM, FORT PIERCE UTILIT IES AUTHORITY ADVISORY COMMITTE E SECOND ANNUAL WORK PLAN PRESE NTATION.
>>> KINGS LANDING UPDATE. >> MS. COX?
>> WE HAVE WITH US TODAY, MR. CISNEROS WILL START US OFF, LESLIE OLSON FROM DISTRICT PLANNING GROUP AND I THINK SHE IS ONE THAT LEADING THE THE AUTHORITY ON BEHALF OF FPU A .
>> WELCOME TO. >> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, MS. COX, LIKE YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY AND I KNOW THIS IS NOT USUALLY THE ROLE YOU SEE ME IN. I AM SO FORTUNATE TO HAVE HER TO BE WORKING WITH FORT PIERCE UTILITY AUTHORITY ON THIS. THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF THING THAT WE REALLY LOVE TO DO, WORK WITH OUR COMMUNITY . OKAY, SO WHAT WE HAVE UP TODAY IS THE WORK PLAN AND PRESENTATION THAT IS ON MY COMPUTER, THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET HERE, BECAUSE I DO NOT HAVE A DOCUMENT SO WE WILL MAKE A PRESENTATION ON THE WORK PLAN THAT YOU HAVE FOR YOU BASED ON NOTES, BECAUSE OUR PRESENTATION IS NOT HERE. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT , BUT THE PRESENTATION WAS
ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA. >> WELL --
>> UNLESS YOU HAVE THE UPDATED ONE ?
>> TWO DOCUMENTS ATTACHED . >> LET ME TRY THIS AGAIN, BECAUSE MAYBE IT IS THAT THE END.
>> NO, THAT IS WHAT YOU SENT TO US.
>> ALL RIGHT . WE ARE GOING TO MAKE A PRESENTATION ON THIS WITH THIS UP AND WE MIGHT SCROLL TO IT, BUT WHAT WE REALLY WANTED TO DO IS HIGHLIGHT A FEW PORTIONS OF IT
AND NOT GO WORD TO WORD. >> PRETTY LONG.
>> THE CITY COMMISSION AND THE UK HAVE CREATED THE UTILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO ENSURE THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS MORE OF AN INPUT AND PIPELINE TO FPU A , SO WE WANT TO THANK EACH OF YOU FOR APPOINTING MEMBERS TO THE UTILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND WE HAVE SEEN REAL SUCCESS IN IT. REAL ENGAGEMENT ON THE PART OF OUR MEMBERS AND EXCITING MOVEMENT FROM IT. WITH ME TODAY IS MISS MARTINEZ, SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM ASSOCIATE AND ALSO A STAFFER TO THE UTILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
SHEET IS GOING TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE MEMBERSHIP . I CAN HOLD THAT FOR YOU. SHE IS HERE TODAY AND SHE WILL SAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE MISSION OF THE COMMISSION.
>> GOOD MORNING, MADAM MAYOR AND GUESTS. I'M HONORED TO
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PRESENT THE UTILITY ADVISORY COMPANY WORK PLANS FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR TO BEGIN I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE UAC MEMBERS PRESENT TODAY. IF YOU COULD PLEASE STAND.>> UTILITY , AUTHORITY COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO ARE HERE,
PLEASE STAND. >> WELCOME, CHRIS .
>> WE HAVE KRISTA KING. CURRENT MEMBERS INCLUDE ROBERT GUTIERREZ. MR. STEVE PALMA . SECOND VICE CHAIR IS MR. JESSE WALKER. ADDITIONALLY, MR. JEAN SIERRA, JILL EDWARDS, MR. DAVIS , BOB LYNCH AND PASTOR JESSE BERNARD .
>> WE ARE ACTIVELY RECRUITING TO FILL OUT ONE OF THE POSITIONS AS WELL AS VACANCIES FROM COMMISSIONER TAYLOR AND COMMISSIONER JOHNSON APPOINTEES OR -- OBLIGATION IS AVAILABLE IN THE WEBSITE AND WE WILL BE HAPPY TO SEND IT TO YOU .
>> MISS MARTINEZ, YOU HAVE ANOTHER VACANCY, BECAUSE PEARL DAVIS HAS NOW BEEN APPOINTED TO THE FPUA FROM THE COMMITTEE .
>> EXCITING. >> MADAM MAYOR, WE HAD ONE AT-LARGE MEMBER , VACANCY OPEN . AND SO, WE ACTUALLY TOOK THE APPOINTEE THAT WAS MR. TAYLOR'S, BECAUSE WE KNEW HE WOULD WANT TO APPOINT SOMEONE YOU TO MOVE HIM AT-LARGE. WE MOVE THAT AROUND ON THE COMMITTEE ALREADY.
>> YES. >> THANK YOU . THE UAC MEMBER WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2021 BY THIS COMMISSION AND THE BOARD. WITH THE PURPOSE OF OPEN DIALOGUE BETWEEN THE UA AND OUR COMMUNITY. WE FOCUS ON DISCUSSING TOPICS AND ADDRESSING BUSINESS CONCERNS. CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT . WORK IS DESIGNED TO PROVIDE DIRECTION FOR THE UAC TO ALIGN WITH THE STRATEGIC GOALS AND SET MEASURABLE OBJECTIVES. NEXT I WILL SHARE OR APPROACH
COMMUNITY RELATIONS. >> GO AHEAD .
>> UAC PLAYS AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN SERVING AMBASSADOR FOR FPUA THAT WE STRENGTHEN THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE FPUA AND COMMUNITIES. BY SHARING INFORMATION AND UTILITY SERVICES AND POSITIVE IMPACT THAT WE HAVE IN FORT PIERCE.
OUR COMMUNITY RELATIONS EFFORT ARE DIVIDED INTO TWO FOCUS AREAS, GENERAL ENGAGEMENT AND YOUTH OUTREACH. THE LIAISON THE MEMBER STATE INFORMED ON CRITICAL TOPICS AND PARTICIPATE IN PUBLIC EVENTS. EACH MEMBER COMMITS TO ATTEND TO AT LEAST ONE FPUA REACH EVENT AND CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR DISABILITIES. FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO REACH WE FOCUS ON EDUCATIONAL PARTNERSHIPS BY FACILITATING INVITATIONS FOR FPUA REPRESENTATIVE TO SPEAK AT EVENTS , ATTEND SCHOOL PROGRAMS AND PARTICIPATE IN CAREER AWARENESS ARISTA INITIATIVES.
NOW MISSILES IN WILL TELL YOU ABOUT THE RATES.
>> ONE AT THE FPUA BOARD FOCUSES IN THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN AND AS YOU MAY NOTICE WE ALIGN OUR STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES ON THE UTILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO ALIGN WITH THE FPUA BOARD STRATEGIC PLAN OBJECTIVES. OUR WORK ON THE UAC IS TO SUPPORT THE BOARD IN THEIR STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES. ONE OF WHICH OF COURSE IS GROWTH AND RATES. FINDING THE ABILITY TO KEEP RATES AFFORDABLE FOR THE CUSTOMERS AND TO FIND WAYS TO GROW SUSTAINABLY. ONE OF THOSE EFFORTS IS THE RELOCATION OF THE WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY FROM SOUTH HUTCHINSON ISLAND OVER TO THE NEW ROAD SITE WHICH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND LOOKING AMAZING . THE UAC WRITES LETTERS OF SUPPORT FOR GRANTS AND ALL OF THE GRANTS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED FOR THIS WORK OF THE UAC AND INVOLVED WITH AND ALSO -- ALSO AS WE HAVE REGULAR MONTHLY MEETINGS AND STAFF, DIRECTORS, EDUCATE MEMBERS OF THE UAC ON HOW FPUA WORKS. IT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE DIRECTORS TO HAVE DIRECT CITIZEN INPUT ON WHAT IS WORKING AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. FOR INSTANCE, LAST WEEK , TWO WEEKS AGO, WE HAD A PRESENTATIONAL REBATES. ELECTRIC, GAS REBATES THAT
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CITIZENS AND RATE PAYERS CAN AND RECEIVE. IT SEEMED A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING TO THE UAC MEMBER SO WE HAD THIS OPEN DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT GET THE WORD OUT A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE EASY TO PROCESS. REALLY USEFUL CONVERSATIONS. THE UAC PROVIDED TWO LETTERS OF SUPPORT . IN 2024 AND HOSTED THE WASTEWATER RECLAMATION FACILITY UPDATE. 30 PEOPLE WERE IN ATTENDANCE. THAT WAS GREAT. ANOTHER ITEM ON THE FPUA BOARD STRATEGIC PLAN IS WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE UAC REALLY SHINED IN LAST YEAR. SOME OF YOU WERE IN ATTENDANCE AT THE STUDENT JOB FAIR. THE UAC HELD THAT AT THE ENERGY SERVICES CENTER AND OVER 100 KIDS CAME. ALL OF THE DIRECTORS WERE THERE WITH TABLES, EXPLAINING WHAT THEY DID AND HOW THEY DID IT.ENTRY-LEVEL OPPORTUNITIES THAT COULD BE AVAILABLE TO THE HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE STUDENTS. CAREER PATHS, WHAT KIND OF EDUCATION YOU MIGHT NEED TO GET INTO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND WE HAD REALLY GREAT FEEDBACK ABOUT THAT. WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO NEXT YEAR AND EXPECT IT TO BE LARGER. EXCITING THING TO SEE THAT PIPELINE BEING BUILT FROM OUR SCHOOLS INTO ONE OF THE BEST EMPLOYERS. IN THE COUNTY, -- FPUA. WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT SO WE WILL DO MORE WORK ON THAT COMING UP AND EXPECT TO HEAR MORE ON THAT. NEXT WE WILL TALK ABOUT UTILITY
GOVERNMENTS . >> IF YOU COULD PULL YOUR
MICROPHONE CLOSER. >> PRIMARY GOVERNANCE GOAL IS TO ESTABLISH CLEAR , SHAREABLE PROTOCOLS THAT SUPPORT ROLLOUTS AT ADVISORY BODIES, INCLUDING REGULAR UPDATES ON THE FPUA BOARD AND OFFERING CITIZENS AND PUT IN VARIOUS UTILITY PROGRAMS AND INITIATIVES. KEY GOVERNANCE ACTIVITIES INCLUDE PREPARING AND RELEASING ANNUAL WORK PLANS AND MIDYEAR PROGRESS REPORT TO ALIGN GOALS AND PROGRESS IS. CONDUCTING OFFICIAL ONBOARDING UAC MEMBERS TO ENSURE COMPREHENSIVE UNDERSTANDING WITH THEIR ROLES. ALSO PARTICIPATING IN AT LEAST TWO TRAINING SESSIONS ANNUALLY INCLUDING THE SOCIAL COMPLIANCE. IN THE PAST YEAR THE UAC SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED ITS FIRST ANNUAL WORK PLAN. ALSO PROVIDED LETTERS FOR FPUA PROPOSALS. THEY ALSO ANTICIPATED IN THE TRAINING SESSION REINFORCING COMMITMENT TO TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY. THE UAC MEMBERS REMAIN DEDICATED TO BEING A TRANSPARENT AND ENGAGED ADVISORY BODY FOR THE FPU A AND WE BELIEVE BY EMPOWERING CITIZENS AND VOICES AND MAINTAINING OPEN COMMUNICATION WE COULD CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE THREE -- 23 AND PROVIDING SERVICES. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSION FOR YOUR TIME AND OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE PROGRESS AND NOW WE'RE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU
>> PICKING UP SNIPPETS OF THE COMMENTS THAT YOU MADE, LESLIE, IN THE PORTION OF YOUR PRESENTATION, RELATIVE TO FOSTERING GROWTH, FOR THE FPUA, GROWTH FOR FPUA OBVIOUSLY AS THE DIRECTOR STATES OFTEN SPENDS MORE METERS AND GENERATE ADDITIONAL REVENUE. OBVIOUSLY THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE GOVERNMENTALLY IS A BENEFICIARY OF THAT INCREASE REVENUE STREAM AS WELL. PART OF THAT DISCUSSION , TOUCHING ON SEVERAL ASPECTS THAT YOU BROUGHT UP, ONE, WORKFORCE AVAILABILITY , TYING INTO WORKFORCE HOUSING, ALSO TYING INTO JOBS, CREATED IN THE COMMUNITY OR REASONABLY GOOD JOBS IN THE COMMUNITY. I HEARD -- I'M SURE YOU HEARD DISCUSSION AT THE FPUA BOARD LEVEL DISCUSSION RELATIVE TO THE JOB CORRIDOR THAT WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO MOVE TOWARD WITH IN THE WESTERN PORTIONS OF THE CITY, SPECIFICALLY ON SOUTH KING HIGHWAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR COMMITTEE IS FOCUSING IN THE SAME DIRECTION THAT THE FPUA TEAM IS AND THE CITY COMMISSION IS SO WE ARE PULLING IN THE SAME DIRECTION RELATIVE TO THIS CREATION OF THE JOB CORRIDOR WHICH CREATES A HOST OF OPPORTUNITY FOR THE FPUA AND OBVIOUSLY THE RESIDENCE OF THE CITY. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE
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ARE IN HARMONY ON THAT ON WHAT WE ACCOMPLISH AND GOING WITHTHAT . >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, GRADE POINT. IS WILL FORWARD TO THAT NEXT SIX MONTH OF THE AGENDA ITEM TOPICS FOR THE UAC TO BE ADDRESSED ON, THAT IS A REALLY GREAT ONE FOR US TO BRING FORWARD , JOBS CORRIDOR PLAN IN PROGRESS NOW TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL. JUST GETTING KICKED OFF THIS YEAR , EARLY THIS YEAR, SO I THINK THAT IS A FANTASTIC IDEA AND I WILL ADD THAT TO THE ITEMS THAT WE WILL BE ADDRESSING IN THE COMING
YEAR. >> THANK YOU, I THINK THAT UNIFIED FRONT OF ALL THE BODIES OF GOVERNMENT , THE MANAGEMENT TEAMS, CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO THE INITIATIVE TO GET IT ROLLING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP.
>> ABSOLUTELY, THANK YOU. >> GO AHEAD .
>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. READ YOUR REPORT THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA SO I HAVE NOT SEEN THE OTHER REPORT THAT YOU WILL PRESENT TODAY, BUT I READ THIS ONE.
>> JUST HAD PRETTY PICTURES IN IT.
>> OKAY, JUST SO THAT WE ARE CLEAR. I HAVE A COUPLE OF CONCERNS. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AND UNDERSTAND FROM THE REPORT THAT YOU HAD A CERTAIN COUPLE OF EVENTS WHERE YOU INCLUDED THE PUBLIC WHAT I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT DO WE HAVE MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITY ? GETTING THEIR IDEAS? WHERE IS THE CONNECTION, BECAUSE I GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT A LOT OF STUFF. BEING THE DIRECTOR -- ME AND THE DIRECTOR KNOW WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS SO I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE ARE WE GETTING SOME OF THE IDEAS OF SOME OF THE INFORMATION FROM THE CITIZENS OF FORT PIERCE? DO WE HAVE MEETINGS WITH THEM OR ARE WE INVITING THEM TO THE MEETINGS? WHAT IS GOING ON, BECAUSE READING THE REPORT AND THE FIRST TIME -- I WILL PUT IT ON ME, FIRST TIME I KNEW ABOUT THE ACTIVITIES IN THIS REPORT, BUT THE FIRST TIME I HEARD ABOUT THEM WAS READING THIS REPORT. MAYBE I DID NOT READ MY CALENDAR SO DO NOT GET ME ON THAT, BUT IF I DID NOT HEAR ABOUT IT AND I AM SITTING HERE, I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THE PUBLIC KNOWS TO COME, BECAUSE I THOUGHT -- I SIT ON ADVISORY BOARDS AND WITH YOU AND MISS OLSON SO I KNOW WE LOOK FOR INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC SO I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE REACH OUT TO ALL OF THE PUBLIC TO GET THE INPUT , BECAUSE BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I GET IN TROUBLE EVERY MONDAY MORNING, THE TOP PRIORITY IN FORT PIERCE IS NOT THE REMOVAL FROM THE WASTEWATER PLANT , FROM THE BEACH TO SELL THIS. ANOTHER COMMUNITY STEP , WAITING ON PROMISES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE 15, 20 YEARS AGO AND THEY WANT ANSWERS FOR THAT SO I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW CAN WE GET TO THE ADVISORY TO GET TO THE OTHER BOARD OR WHAT IS
THE PROCESS? >> RIGHT, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I FIND TO BE THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE, AND GOVERNMENT AND PUBLIC SERVICE. IT IS GETTING THE RIGHT EYEBALLS ON THE RIGHT INVITATIONS AND MAKING IT EXCITING ENOUGH FOR THEM TO TAKE THEIR INCREDIBLY LIMITED TIME TO SHOW UP THINK THAT IS THE FUNDAMENTAL CHALLENGE OF PUBLIC SERVICE.
PEOPLE ARE SO BUSY AND IT IS HARD TO GET THEIR EYEBALLS ON THE RIGHT THING AT THE RIGHT TIME. I WOULD LOVE SOME IDEAS IF YOU HAVE ANY, WHO TO REACH OUT TO, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OUR LEAD AT FPUA RACHEL WHO IS NOT WITH US HERE TODAY, YOU KNOW HER, BUT SHE IS A FORCE OF NATURE, BUT THIS IS WHAT SHE IS CONSTANTLY ASKING IS WHAT COMMUNITY CAN WE GO INTO? WHAT CHURCH WANTS TO HOST US? WHAT HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION IS INTERESTED IN HOSTING US? STAFF IS VERY, VERY INTERESTED IN GETTING INTO THE COMMUNITY AND NOT JUST HOLDING A PUBLIC MEETING WHERE PEOPLE COME , BUT FOR US TO GO TO THEM AS WELL.
WE WOULD LOVE IF YOU HAVE ANY CONTACTS FOR US TO REACH OUT TO, SETTING UP THOSE TYPES OF MEETINGS, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY
SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO. >> NO CONTRARY TO THAT , BUT THERE IS CONTEXT DOCUMENT LOOKING AT THE AUDIENCE RIGHT NOW, I THANK YOU FOR THAT AND I HOPE THE CHURCHES AND HOME ASSOCIATIONS ARE LISTENING, BUT DID WE TAKE THE STEP TO EVEN SEND A LETTER OR EMAIL TO THE CHURCHES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE
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20, 30, 40 YEARS IN THE COMMUNITY TO SAY THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING? COME SPEAK TO S OR SHARE YOUR CONCERNS?>> SO WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY DO THAT AND I THINK IN ORDER FOR US TO KNOW WHO TO REACH OUT TO US, IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL FOR US TO HAVE THAT OR MAYBE IF YOU PROVIDED IT TO MS. COX SHE
COULD SEND IT TO ME. >> NO PROBLEM, THANK YOU.
>> FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO ME, ANYONE WHO MIGHT BE WATCHING TODAY OR IN THE AUDIENCE, I -- YOU CAN GOOGLE DISTRICT PLANNING GROUP AND FIND ME, PRETTY SIMPLE WAY TO
DO IT. >> I DO NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORTS YOU PUT INTO ACCOMPLISH ALL THESE GOALS. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT THING FOR RECOGNIZING THE DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT AND CITIZENS AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO BRIDGE THE GAP . KEEPING PEOPLE INVOLVED AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEIR LOCAL UTILITY DOES AND HOW TO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT IS INVOLVED WITH GETTING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY. IT IS HARD TO HOLD A PUBLIC MEETING AND EXPECTING PEOPLE TO SHOW UP. HARLEY ANYONE HERE AT THE TIME -- HARDLY ANYONE HERE AT THE TIME AND I KNOW IT IS DIFFICULT, ALL GOVERNMENT COMMITTEES AND ALL THAT, I RESPECT THAT AND HOW DIFFICULT THAT IS SO I APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORT YOU ARE DOING. I HAVE APPOINTED SOMEBODY, BUT I DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THAT FOR
>> WE WILL FIND OUT WHO THAT IS.
>> LOOKING FORWARD TO HIM GETTING ON THERE AND GET GOING , THANK YOU. SAY WORKING WITH BOBBY AND HIS TEAM , SUCH A JOY . THEY HAVE SUCH A PROFESSIONAL TEAM THAT IS REALLY, REALLY COMMITTED TO NOT ONLY SAYING THEY ARE WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY, BUT REALLY ENGAGING IN IT. THAT IS ONE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO BE A PART OF. WORKING WITH MARCY AND HER TEAM AND RACHEL, I HOPE THE RATEPAYERS HAVE A CHANCE TO MEET THESE GUYS, BECAUSE THEY REALLY ARE ALL ABOUT SERVICE.
>> I ATTENDED THE JOB FAIR . REALLY WELL DONE, REALLY GREAT.
EXCITING TO SEE AND MEET EMPLOYEES AND DIRECTORS OF THE DEPARTMENT TO SEE HOW PASSIONATE THEY ARE ABOUT THE UTILITIES AUTHORITY. REALLY EXCITING TO SEE THAT. TO SEE SO MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS THERE, INTERESTED IN JOBS, FINDING OUT MORE INFORMATION, SO IT WAS WILLIE DECIMATE REALLY A WILL
PUT AND EVENT . >> MADAM MAYOR, I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS AT THE END WITH THE COMMISSION, BUT I CAN BRING IT UP NOW SINCE WE HAVE THE DIRECTOR HERE , HARVEY IS HERE.
NOT TODAY, BECAUSE IT IS THAT IT IS ON THE AGENDA, BUT I AM ASKING US TO PUT ON THE AGENDA UPCOMING MEETINGS AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS PLAN OR THIS PROMISE OR WHATEVER THIS PROGRAM WAS TO DO THIS CONVERSION FROM SEPTIC TANKS TO THE SEWER . CERTAIN COMMUNITIES WERE PROMISED THAT WERE LED TO BELIEVE IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. I THINK WE NEED TO DISCUSS IT .
HARVEY, I KNOW WE MET LAST WEEK, BUT IF WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING THEN I'M ASKING YOU TO DO THAT, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF MISCOMMUNICATIONS GOING AROUND.
I AM JUST -- LOOKS LIKE A BAIT AND SWITCH TYPE OF THING WHICH I DO NOT THINK WITH THE INTENTION SO I WANT US TO BE AWARE OF IT. I WANT YOU TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION. NOT TODAY, BUT PUT IT ON THE AGENDA THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT IT AND DISCUSS IT SO THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA WILL APPRECIATE IT .
>> SURE, THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO EVERYBODY TO CLEAR THE AIR, BECAUSE I AM NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF PROMISES SO I KNOW -- I WANT TO
KNOW THAT MYSELF. >> SO THAT IS WHY I LEFT IT AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE WHEN WE PUT ON THE AGENDA PEOPLE CAN COME AND SAY WHAT WAS SAID AND NOT JUST US OR THE COMMISSION ARE SAYING OR WHAT WAS TOLD TO THEM AND WE CAN HEAR IT FROM THE
RESIDENTS AND GO FROM THERE. >> SITTING ON THE FPUA BOARD, I
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KNOW THAT ALL THE MEETINGS ARE PUBLIC, PROCEEDINGS ARE TRANSPARENT . THEY ARE MADE PUBLIC. I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A CITIZEN AND NOT A MAYOR, HOW HARD IT WAS. IT WAS A FULL-TIME JOB TO KEEP UP WITH THE GOVERNMENT, FULL-TIME JOB. YES, IT IS. IF YOU REALLY WANT IT, YOU HAVE TO READ ALL THE BACKUP, JUST LIKE WE HAVE TO READ THE BACKUP. ATTENDING THE MEETINGS OR AT LEAST WATCH THEM ON VIDEO . TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH IT, WITH THE COUNTY, FPUA, YOU HAVE THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, I MEAN, IT IS A FULL-TIME JOB . PEOPLE HAVE LIVES , ACTUALLY READING YOUR REPORT, YOUR PLANS FOR THIS YEAR FOR 2025, THE HAD SOME REAL BASIC THINGS THAT WE TEND TO FORGET ABOUT LIKE UNDERSTANDING YOUR BILL, BECAUSE BEFORE THE UTILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE , COMMUNICATION, SOMEONE HAD FROM THE FPUA, SO IF THEY HAD TROUBLE WITH THEIR SERVICE, PAID THEIR BILL, RIGHT? GOT THEIR BILL, RIGHT? SO WITH UTILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE WE ARE TRYING . WE HAVE APPOINTEES FROM THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AS WELL AS THE FPUA. WE ARE TRYING TO SAY WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU AND WANT TO KNOW, BECAUSE REALLY NOBODY WANTS TO CONTACT THE UTILITY, BUT THEY WANT THE UTILITIES TO WORK, PERIOD, THEY DO NOT WANT TO TALK TO YOU, RIGHT? THIS IS A WAY TO COMMUNICATE AND I AM SURE THAT WHEN YOU HAVE UTILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEES THAT ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, ARE THEY ADVERTISED ON SOCIAL MEDIA?>> THEY ARE. >> OKAY. I PROBABLY HAVE SEEN THEM, BUT RIGHT NOW I AM NOT CALLING IT, BUT WE CAN DO
>> EVERY SINGLE THING YOU DO IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. I ATTENDED THE JOB FAIR TOO AND IT WAS CROWDED AND TEACHERS WERE THERE AS WELL AS STUDENTS AND THEY WERE INTERESTED. LIKE MANY THINGS IN MODERN LIFE, THEY TAKE UTILITIES FOR GRANTED.
THEY DO NOT KNOW HOW THEY GET THERE, BUT ONLY KNOW WHEN EVER THEY DO NOT HAVE THEM, RIGHT? THAT IS WHAT THIS COMMITTEE IS ALL ABOUT. THEY MAKE SURE THE CUSTOMER KNOWS AND WHATEVER WE ARE PROVIDING, INFORMATION WE PROVIDE FROM THE FPUA, IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE CUSTOMER NEEDS. IT IS A GOOD POINT ABOUT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. WE WERE PLANNING TO DO THIS AND WE KNEW THE COST AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EVERYBODY THAT'S MET NOBODY WALKS AROUND THE STREETS OF FORT PIERCE TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY CANNOT WAIT FOR THAT NEW WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT TO BE THERE, BUT JAMES DOES. YOU GET A LIFE ] , BUT IT IS IMPORTANT AND WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS, BUT HE IS RIGHT. WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS THE EVERYDAY LIFE, MAKING THEIR EVERYDAY LIFE EASIER AND THAT IS WHAT I'M HOPING THE AT UTILITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS WORKING ON, TRYING OR ALWAYS TRYING TO DO BETTER. TRYING TO THINK ABOUT WHAT IT IS AND NOT WHAT THE COMPANY IS DOING, BUT THE COMPANY MAY BE EXCITED ABOUT, BUT WHAT THE CUSTOMER NEEDS FROM THE COMPANY IN TERMS OF INFORMATION AND SUPPORT. GOOD JOB, KEEP IT UP, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR SUGGESTIONS OR NAMES AND SUGGESTIONS FOR NEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND YOU HAVE THREE VACANCIES NOW, RIGHT?
>> RIGHT, I DO NOT THINK SO, BUT I --
>> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR, THAT IS TAKING CARE OF.
>> WE HAVE AT LARGE OPEN. AT LARGE APPOINTMENT, ANYONE CAN APPLY THEN WHAT IS BASICALLY ABOUT THE WAY THE CITY AND BOARD SET UP THE UAC IS THAT IT ACTUALLY VOTES ON THEIR AT-LARGE MEMBERS . SO THE UAC WILL CONSIDER APPLICATIONS WHEN WE GET SOME AND APPOINT THAT ONE, BUT THEN WE WILL NEED THE ONE FROM COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.
>> THE ONLY REQUIREMENT IS THAT THE CUSTOMER, ONE OF THEIR
>> YOU DO NOT HAVE TO LIVE IN THE SILLY, BUT JUST ESTIMATE DO NOT HAVE TO LIVE IN THE VICINITY, BUT BE A CUSTOMER.
THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US AS A CITY. QUITE FRANKLY, FOR
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ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD? >> NOTHING FOR ME, MARCY, YOU?
>> COMMISSIONER GAINES? >> WHERE WITH A RESIDENT OR SOMEONE WANTS TO COME TO YOUR BOARD FILL OUT THE APPLICATION?
SPEAKERS ] >> IT IS ON THE FPUA WEBSITE .
UNDER COMMITTEES, I BELIEVE. WHAT WE CAN DO IS MAKE SURE SINCE WE JUST DID THIS, WE CAN SEE IF WE CAN HAVE THAT POSTED
SOMEWHERE PROMINENT >> OR PERHAPS TO A CALL FOR VOLUNTEERS, BUT DO WE HAVE IT ON THE WEBSITE?
>> USING THE CITY STANDARD FORM .
>> WE WILL TAKE IT HOWEVER IT COMES IN.
>> OR THEY COULD CALL ANYONE OF US AND WE CAN TELL THEM HOW TO
DO IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> OKAY.
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>> NEXT ITEM IS THE KINGS LANDING UPDATE.
>> IS THIS YOU MS. COX? >> MS. HEDGES .
>> OKAY . >> YES, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, PRAYER THE SECOND AMENDMENT THERE IS REQUIREMENT TO BE QUARTERLY UPDATES TO EITHER THE COMMISSIONER OR THE FPA BOARD OPEN MEANING SO THIS IS A DATE THAT IS SET FOR THAT UPDATE FROM AUTOBAHN AND THEIR TEAM.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY ARE HERE AND READY TO PRESENT TO YOU BASICALLY THE STATUS OF WHERE THEY ARE AT AND THIS IS IN ADDITION TO THE MONTHLY UPDATE THAT THEY HAVE TO DO IN WRITING SO THIS IS A TIME FOR THEM TO COME BEFORE YOU AND FOR YOU TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OR EXPRESS ANY CONCERNS YOU HAVE
>> MR. HAWKINS, ARE YOU FIRST ?
>> YES, GOOD MORNING, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, MANAGER
COX, COUNCILMAN HEDGES. >> WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME?
>> SCOTT HAWKINS, HERE WITH MY COLLEAGUE LENNY FRANCISCO AND BILL, DEVELOPMENT MANAGER, HEARING FROM HIM IN A FEW MINUTES SO WE ARE HERE AS PART OF THE OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE QUARTERLY UPDATE AND PRESENTATION. THE LAST ONE WAS WITH -- OCTOBER 20 TORQUE. WE ALSO PROVIDED TO YOU ON THE NINTH OF JANUARY , DETAILED LETTER REGARDING RECENT DEVELOPMENT IN THE MATTER AND HAVING SEVERAL ATTACHMENTS TO IT. THAT WAS DELIVERED LAST THURSDAY. IN ADDITION, WE ARE PROVIDING MONTHLY REPORTS. WE PROVIDE A REPORT IN -- PROVIDED WHEN DECEMBER AND NOVEMBER, CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THAT IN TERMS OF WHERE WE ARE. IN A MOMENT MR. WARE WILL COME FORWARD IN TERMS OF ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AT THE BIG PICTURE IS THAT MARRIOTT IS ON BOARD. WE ANTICIPATE THAT THE -- THE OPERATOR IS ON BOARD, MAINSAIL, MATERIALS IN HERE WHICH DELINEATE THE MOU BETWEEN THE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY THAT WILL BE LIFE OAK, STEPPING INTO THE SHOES OF HARVARD, MR. RARE RECENTLY TRANSITIONED TO LIFE OAK AND MAINE SALES MADE IT CLEAR THEY INTEND TO SUBMIT TO MARRIOTT AHEAD OF SCHEDULE SO MARRIOTT IS ON BOARD AND OPERATOR IS ON BOARD AND THIS PROJECT IS PROCEEDING ON SCHEDULE. WE HAVE ENDEAVORED TO PROVIDE DETAIL, AND THE MOU REGARDING THE MAINSAIL ATTACH, ALSO STEPPING INTO THE SHOES OF HARVARD, GIVEN MR. WARE'S ADDITION, HE IS THE MANAGER AND OVERSEEING ADDITIONAL COMPONENTS. IN ADDITION, WE PROVIDED A COPY OF THE CONTRACT WITH THE COMPANY, ENGINEERING COMPANY, DOING ALL THE ENGINEERING AT THE SITE. THAT IS INCLUDED IN YOUR MATERIALS.
THE PROJECT IS ON SCHEDULE -- SCHEDULE. PROGRESSING WELL. WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
THIS IS A QUARTERLY UPDATE. WE ARE HAPPY TO RECEIVE WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AND WE HAVE ASKED MR. WARE TO BE HERE, DROVE DOWN FROM JACKSONVILLE THIS MORNING. THE LEAD DEVELOPMENT GUYS SO MOST FAMILIAR WITH THE TERMS OF WHERE THINGS ARE AND POINT OF TIME.
>> ALL RIGHT, I THINK WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM MR. WARE.
>> WELCOME. >> NICE TO BE BACK.
COMMISSIONERS, GOOD MORNING, MR. TAYLOR. CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW SEAT AND I HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH THE PREDECESSOR AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.
>> STATE YOUR NAME. >> BILL WHERE.
>> LIVE OAK? >> CORRECT . I GUESS TO REITERATE JUST REALLY QUICKLY WHAT SCOTT JUST SAID THE REPORT
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, LAST QUARTERLY REPORT THAT WE PROVIDED IS SUMMED UP IN MAYBE THREE, FOUR ITEMS, ONE, WE HAVE CONCLUDED OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH DALE AND AUTOBON AND COME TO TERMS ON THAT STRUCTURE MOVING FORWARD. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT , BUT MAYBE OF INTEREST , PART OF THAT STRUCTURE IS AUTOBON TAKING A REDUCED ROLE , NOW A LIMITED PARTNER AS OPPOSED TO A GENERAL PARTNER OF SORTS. FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT I THINK ARE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY AND DALE AND AUDUBON AND LIVE OAK'S, WE ARE PLEASED ABOUT THAT AND WE WOULD ANTICIPATE HAVING A DOCUMENT THAT MEMORIALIZES THAT EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE THE MOU, KIND OF DESCRIBING THAT STRUCTURE. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT BEFORE THE 21ST MEETING ALTHOUGH BY THE SECOND AMENDMENT WE DO NOT NEED TO HAVE IT UNTIL FEBRUARY 9, I BELIEVE, SO WE ARE INTERESTED IN MOVING FORWARD.AS FAST AS WE CAN SO THAT MY GOAL WOULD BE TO HAVE THE -- AVAILABLE FOR THE ATTORNEYS AT THAT MEETING. MARRIOTT ALSO IN YOUR PACKET -- AS YOU WILL KNOW FROM BEFORE, WE HAVE A SIGNED TERM SHEET BETWEEN MAINSAIL AND MARRIOTT FOR TRIBUTE HOTEL.
MAINSAIL HAS A LONG HISTORY AND RELATIONSHIP WITH MARRIOTT. IT HAS HELPED , I THINK, EXPEDITE THINGS THERE AND WE ARE ON SCHEDULE PURSUANT TO AN EMAIL I RECEIVED FROM MAINSAIL, JOE CONNELLY THE PRESIDENT THAT HE INTENDS TO SUBMIT THE FRANCHISE APPLICATION BEFORE THE 20TH ALTHOUGH AGAIN BY THE SECOND AMENDMENT IT IS NOT DO TILL THE 29TH. WE ARE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE IN THAT REGARD SO I'M EXCITED AS YOU GUYS ARE TO HAVE THAT SUBMITTED. A PART OF THAT APPLICATION , I BELIEVE IS SOME DRAWINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED BASIC CONCEPT SITE PLAN AND ELEVATIONS AND SO FORTH. AS THAT IS COMPLETED AND SUBMITTED, I WILL BE SURE TO GET A COPY OF THAT CERTAINLY FOR OUR FILES AND OUR RECORDS, BECAUSE WE WILL BE DOVETAILING THE EFFORT WITH THE PROJECT WITH THE HOTEL AND HAPPY TO SHARE THOSE WITH YOU ALL, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT IS SUBJECT TO TWEAKING HERE AND THERE AS IT GOES TO THE MARRIOTT PROCESS. LAST, THE SITE PLAN, AS I THINK I HAVE INDICATED FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, THERE ARE SOME CHANGES THAT WE ARE PROPOSING THAT BENEFIT THE PROJECT , BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY. FROM OUR SEND POINT THE PROJECT MORE MARKETING APPEALABLE AND KEVIN, JACK, OTHER CITY STAFF WE MET WITH, CITY HEADS AND THEIR PEOPLE HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY ACCOMMODATING AND COURTEOUS AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE HAD TWO MEETINGS THAT I CAN THINK OF WHERE I CALLED ALL OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THEIR RESPECTIVE PEOPLE SO THAT WE ARE ALL HEARING THE SAME THING AND ALL ON BOARD WITH THE DIRECTION THAT THE SITE PLAN IS GOING ON AND THE REASONS WHY. I THINK NOW AND I SEE THAT KEVIN AND JACK ARE HERE AND I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT IF THEY WERE CALLED UPON THEY WOULD ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT THE CHANGES THAT WE ARE MAKING ARE CERTAINLY BENEFICIAL TO THE PROJECT. WITH THAT, THERE IS A NEED FOR TIME AND NOT ON THE PROJECT SCHEDULE PER SE, BUT ON THE SPECIFIC DATE THAT WITHIN THE PROJECT SCHEDULE FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL BY THE CITY. BY VIRTUE OF THESE CHANGES, WE WILL NEED SOME TIME SPECIFICALLY FOR KEVIN AND JACK AND HIS PEOPLE TO DO THEIR REVIEW ALTHOUGH WE HAVE ALL AGREED, I THINK, TO WHAT THOSE CHANGES ARE. YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET A CONTRACT FROM EDC THAT WE HAVE SIGNED. AS SOON AS WE GET THE BLESSING FROM THE CITY, AS THE REPLACEMENT OF HARVARD, WE WILL GET DAVID BACK IT AND EDC STARTED ON THOSE CHANGES. I WOULD DEFER TO KEVIN ON HOW MUCH TIME HE THINKS THAT THE CITY WILL NEED FOR THEM TO DO THEIR REVIEW, BUT DAVID TELLS ME THAT DUST MET WITH EDC, TAKING HIM APPROXIMATELY 30
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DAYS OR SO TO INCORPORATE THE CHANGES THAT WE PROPOSE AND TO THE PLAN TO SUPPORT TO THE CITY SO AGAIN WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THAT. MUCH LIKE SCOTT SAID, THE PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD. WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT AND AHEAD OF SCHEDULE AS IT RELATES TO THE PROJECT SCHEDULE IN THE SECOND AMENDMENT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF JUST THE SITE PLAN. I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANYQUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. >> QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER
BRODERICK ? >> A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SEGMENTS HERE . FOR SOME OTHER APPLICATION TO MARRIOTT , THE
ACTION DATE WAS JANUARY 29? >> CORRECT.
>> ABOUT NINE DAYS EARLIER IT WILL BE?
>> CORRECT. >> AND THAT IS WITH THE HOTEL GROUP AND YOURSELF WAS NOT CORRECT.
>> LIVE OAK AT THE JOINT VENTURE PRINCIPLES?
>> CORRECT. >> THE SUBMISSION DATE OBVIOUSLY WE WILL RECEIVE A CONFIRMATION FROM YOU FOLKS THAT SOME MISSION HAS BEEN MADE, BUT IS THERE A REALISTIC DISCUSSION POINT AS FAR AS TIMELINE THAT MARRIOTT WILL TAKE TO GO THROUGH THEIR PROCESSES?
>> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION. THEIR PROCESS IS THEIR PROCESS.
JOE COLLIER, THE PRESIDENT OF MAINSAIL , MAINSAIL THEMSELVES, THEY ARE IN A MUCH BETTER POSITION TO RESPOND TO THAT . I WOULD BE GUESSING AS TO THAT TIMEFRAME, MIKE, RATHER NOT DO THAT, BUT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO GET THE DATE OR PROCESS FOR YOU AND PRESENTED TO YOU ON THE 21ST.
>> YOU CAN SEND IT IN THE EMAIL.
>> I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
>> WITH THE PROJECTD OUTLINE OF THIS PROCESS WOULD BE. WHEN WE HAD A REPRESENTATIVE OF MARRIOTT CORPORATION HERE, INTERESTING DISCUSSION IN THAT THE VETTING OF THE APPLICANT OBVIOUSLY TO YOU AS THE GENERAL PARTNER , FROM THE CITY PERSPECTIVE, ET CETERA, THAT IS SIMPLY DWARFED BY THE PROCESS THAT MARRIOTT CORPORATION WILL PUT THE APPLICANT THROUGH.
OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE KNOWN QUALITY TO MARRIOTT CORPORATION SO HELP STREAMLINING THE PROCESS, BUT STILL I HAVE TO IMAGINE THEY LEAVE NO STONE UNTURNED.
>> THAT IS A FACT TOO. >> CONVINCED THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD MAKE THE BEST OPERATOR FOR THIS LOCATION ET CETERA? SO I WILL WAIT FOR THE COMMISSION WILL WAIT FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AS TO WHAT THE PROJECTED THOUGHT PROCESS IS ON
>> I KNOW IT IS SPECULATION WITH NOT A DATE ON THAT, BUT JUST A BRACKET WOULD BE HELPFUL.
>> HAPPY TO DO THAT . >> SECONDLY, ENTIRE TOPIC OF THE TRANSFORMATION FROM HARBOR TO LIVE OAK, LIVE OAK WITH AUDUBON, ENTERING TO THE JOINT VENTURE AGREEMENT I BELIEVE THE ACTION DATE FOR THAT IS EVERY NINE CORRECT .
>> WHERE DO YOU STAND ON EXECUTING ON THAT DOCUMENT AND
BRING THAT TO CLOSURE? >> AS I TRY TO SAY HERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO MY HOPE IS TO TRY TO HAVE THAT MEMORIALIZED FOR THE 21ST MEETING. THE TERMS ARE WHAT THEY ARE AND IN AGREEMENT FORM SO REALLY A FUNCTION OF THE
>> RESPECTFULLY. JUST IN TERMS OF TIME FOR THEM TO PUT IT IN LEGALESE THAT IS SATISFACTORY TO BOTH PARTIES. MY HOPE IS TO HAVE IT BY THE 21ST, BUT AT THE VERY LAST, OR LATEST, FEBRUARY 9, BECAUSE I'M OBLIGATED TO DO SO I COULD TELL MY ATTORNEYS
THAT IS THE CASE. >> WE ARE LOOKING AT FEBRUARY
NINE, WORST-CASE AMERICAN? >> CORRECT.
>> WITH HEDGES, DOES THE CITY PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCESS AS FAR AS THE JOINT VENTURE AGREEMENT AND SUBSTITUTION OF LIVE OAK FOR HARBOR? WHERE DO WE STAND, THE THIRD AMENDMENT
HERE? >> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, SO THE JOINT VENTURE PARTNERSHIP AND FINALIZING THEIR DOCUMENTS WOULD BE BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM. THE CITY COMES IN AS THE SECOND AMENDMENT SPECIFICALLY STATING IT WAS BY 180 DAYS FROM WHEN WE EXECUTED THE SECOND AMENDMENT.
THE JOINT VENTURE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN AUDUBON AND HARBOR REALTY SERVICES HAD TO BE FINALIZED. WHAT THEIR ARE REQUESTED ESSENTIALLY TO REPLACE HARBOR WITH LIVE OAK PURSUANT TO THE JOINT VENTURE SALIENT TERMS WE RECEIVED FROM LIVE OAK AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE A THIRD AMENDMENT FROM THE CITY TO APPROVE LIVE OAK TAKING OVER BASICALLY AND STEPPING IN AS WHERE HARBOR WAS. I DO NOT HEAR THE AMENDMENT AS TO ANY SPECIFIC OTHER TERMS IN THE SECOND AMENDMENT REGARDING FINALIZING THE JOINT VENTURE TIMEFRAME OR THE HOTEL TIMEFRAME OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. EVERY THING ELSE WOULD ESSENTIALLY REMAIN THE SAME. YOU WOULD JUST BE REPLACING HARBOR WITH LIVE OAK AS A JOINT VENTURE PARTNER THAT WE ARE
APPROVING MOVING FORWARD. >> LOOKING FOR DATA FROM THEM
TO PRESENT TO YOU? >> WE HAVE NOT HAD THOSE
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CONVERSATIONS YET, BUT YES, THAT IS HOW WE HAVE DONE THIS IN THE PAST BETWEEN THE ATTORNEYS AND MYSELF, WORKING ON AND AMENDMENT AND GETTING THE TERMS CORRECT AS TO WHAT DIRECTION THE COMMISSION IS GIVING US.>> OBVIOUSLY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO FACILITATE AND I WILL SUGGEST THAT BILL, AT ALL, YOUR ENTIRE TEAM, BUT NOT SURE WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DRAFTING OF THIS, BUT GET IT
>> IT TO OUR FOLKS AND SPINNING IT UP TO THE CITY COMMISSION AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME. THAT IS MY SUGGESTION TO KEEP THE FLOW MOVING AND MAKING SURE WE ARE HITTING ON ALL SALIENT POINTS
>> THERE IS AN ISSUE AND I DO NOT CONSIDER IT ISSUED CANDIDLY, BUT TECHNICAL ISSUE THAT ARISES IN THE SECOND AMENDMENT AND BILL AND I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS AS SUBSTANCE OR LACK THERE OF NEEDING TO BE ADDRESSED AND ONE OF THE ACTION DATES IS THAT IT WAS SUBMISSION OF THE SITE PLANS AND THINGS, BUT THEY HAVE SITE PLAN APPROVAL CURRENTLY. WHEN EXISTING SITE PLAN THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED. RELATIVE TO THE CHANGES THAT BILL IS REFERENCING THAT HE HAS BEEN DISCUSSING WITH DIRECTOR FREEMAN AND HIS TEAM. THIS CAME UP IN CONVERSATION THIS PAST WEEK AND CAME UP EARLIER THAT I REALLY DID NOT DIVE INTO THE DETAILS ON THIS, BECAUSE IT GIVES US A COMPLICATION. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK DIRECTOR FREEMAN IF HE COULD COME UP AND COMMENT ON THE PROCESS, WHAT WILL BE REQUIRED TO ACCOMPLISH THIS? I THINK HE HAS THE BEST HANDLE ON IT.
>> HE JUST MADE TO LOOK LIKE HE WOULD NOT.
>> IF YOU UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION, MY BASIC UNDERSTANDING OF THIS PROCESS IS THAT THE COMPANY THAT BILL HAS CONTACTED WITH, EDC, NEED TO BE SUBMITTED TO YOU, WITH A 30 DAY TIMELINE GETTING THAT INTO YOUR OFFICE, YOUR REQUIRE BLOCK OF TIME TO REVIEW IT AND AFTER YOUR OFFICE REVIEWS ALL THIS IT GETS KICKED UP TO A VARIETY OF BOARDS ME BACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION ULTIMATELY. WHAT IS YOUR BEST SPECULATION
AS TO WHAT THIS WILL ENTAIL ? >> OKAY, BASED ON THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS WITH MR. WARE, I THINK VERY FRUITFUL AND COOPERATIVE, RESOLVING SOME REALLY BIG ISSUES AND THOSE, PART OF THE PROCESS WILL BENEFIT FROM THE PRE-DISCUSSIONS TO THE APPLICATION. MY THOUGHTS ARE, PROVIDING THE APPLICATION , SUBMITTED -- IT IS SUBSTANTIVE ENOUGH . IT ALLOWS US TO START THE PROCESS. I WOULD SAY THAT APPLICATION, IF IT COMES IN BY END FEBRUARY, THAT WOULD BE MORE THAN 30 DAYS FROM TODAY. WE WOULD HAVE AN INTERNAL REVIEW THEN GOES TO THE TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE USUALLY DONE IN THE NEXT MONTH. AFTER THAT, THEN -- SO, BECAUSE IT IS IN THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD PURVIEW, WE WOULD GO TO THAT BOARD AND PLANNING BOARD . NOW, THAT WOULD DEPEND ON THE REVIEW OF THE APPLICATION BEING SUFFICIENT TO BE ABLE FOR THOSE BOARDS TO MAKE A DETERMINATION FOR THE STAFF TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. OUR INTERNAL DEPARTMENT SPECIFICALLY ENGINEERING, WOULD HAVE A GOOD OVERSIGHT ON THAT PROCESS ALSO.
IN TERMS OF THE COMMENTS WE WOULD BE RECEIVING BACK SO WITH THE VIEW TO THE AMENDMENTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED, THEY ARE SUBSTANTIAL, BUT THEY ALL AND IF IT THE PROJECT . SO FROM A STAFF POINT OF VIEW, I THINK WE HAVE WORKED OUT OUR OWN POINTS OF VIEW, IF YOU LIKE, IN TERMS OF THE MECHANISM OF THIS SITE GOING TOGETHER AND WE ARE VERY HAPPY WITH IT COMING IN, ON THE BASIS OF WHAT WE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, THAT IT WOULD BE A VERY QUICK INTERNAL REVIEW. HOPEFULLY BE DRAWINGS ARE FULL, ABLE TO ADDRESS ANY COMMENTS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE. THE DRAWINGS ARE NOT SUBSTANTIVE ENOUGH TO GET AROUND THE FIRST REVIEW, WE MIGHT HAVE TO PUSH THAT OUT UNDER THE MONTH TO GET BACK TO THE TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE. STAFF WILL BE DOING EVERYTHING THAT THEY CAN TO ACCELERATE AS FAR AS POSSIBLE , THE REVIEW OF THIS PROJECT. THAT IS WHAT WE SPENT SO MUCH TIME AHEAD OF THE SUBMITTAL WITH THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PROJECT, TO GET OUR ISSUES SETTLED. WE HAD SOME VERY GOOD FEEDBACK FROM OUR OWN ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT . WE HAVE HAD SOME VERY GOOD COOPERATION AND MOVEMENT FROM THE APPLICANT. WE ARE -- I AM VERY POSITIVE ABOUT WHAT WE GET
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IN AND IT WILL MEET WHAT WE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY. THE PRESERVATION BOARD AND PLANNING BOARD, LOOKING AT THE DATES OF THAT, MAYBE WE COULD SQUEEZE THOSE TOGETHER IN ONE MONTH, AND IF THAT HAPPENS, WE WOULD BE WORKING TOWARDS THE NEXT MONTH TO THE CITY COMMISSION. I AM ANTICIPATING THAT IF THE APPLICATION COMES IN , BY THE END OF FEBRUARY, THAT WE WOULD BE IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION , MAYBE, MAY OR JUNE .>> OKAY AND THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS THE DATE SPECIFIC IN THE SECOND AMENDMENT, IT STATES VERY SIMPLY , FINALIZE CITY APPROVAL IS 90 DAYS. THAT DATE TERMINATES 1-28TH-25. THERE HAS ALSO BEEN DISCUSSION I HAD WAS OF A PARTY'S KIND OF CIRCLING AROUND THIS WHOLE PROJECT THAT THOSE TIMELINES HAVE ALREADY BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE SCHEDULE TIMELINE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT DATE . MS. HEDGES, I WILL TURN TO NEXT, BUT CAN YOU CAST YOUR OPINION HERE?
>> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, IF DIRECTOR FREEMAN CAN HAND ME THE KEYBOARD AND MOUSE TO PULL THE MONITOR UP. I CAN PULL UP THE DOCUMENT YOU REFERRED TO, BUT I THINK THIS MIGHT HELP THIS CONVERSATION MAKING IT EASIER.
>> THE REASON I BRING IT UP IS, BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT SURPRISES. WE ARE TRYING TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE HERE AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS, THE CONCERN FROM BILLS, I DO NOT SHARE THEM NECESSARILY, BUT I THINK THE DISCUSSION NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE AS TO HOW IT IS ALL SCALE TO THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND NOT JUST ARBITRARY DATES IN THE AGREEMENT.
>> WHAT COMES AFTER THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING?
>> RIGHT, BUT ALSO TRACKING ON THE SAME TIMELINES SO NOT AS IF ONE OR EVERYTHING IS STOP UNTIL THIS IS DONE, BECAUSE THE KIND OF TRAVEL ON PARALLEL TRACKS, BUT I THINK MS. HEDGES AND HER INPUT ON THIS, DISCUSSING THIS MULTIPLE TIMES WITH HER, SHE
CAN SHED MORE LIGHT ON THIS. >> GO AHEAD .
>> SORRY, THE SECOND AMENDMENT WAS NOT ATTACHED -- ONE SECOND TO GO BACK TO THE AUGUST MEETING TO PULL THAT UP.
>> MADAM MAYOR, BUT I GUESS? >> WHILE SHE IS WORKING ON THAT, MR. FREEMAN, KENYA DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT IS ACTUALLY CHANGING IN THE SITE PLAN, BECAUSE I DO NOT KNOW IF THIS WAS DISCUSSED AT PREVIOUS MEETINGS.
>> NOTHING HAS BEEN FULLY DISCUSSED. SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES BASED ON ACCESS, I THINK, RESOLVING ACCESS POINTS .
RESOLVING THAT INTO A SINGLE OR ALMOST LIKE A BOULEVARD ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY. REALLOCATING AREAS OF DEVELOPMENT AREAS, ONE, TO SPECIFICALLY DEAL WITH THE POTENTIAL REQUEST OF THE HOTEL SITE TO ALLOW THAT TO FIT IN BETTER . TO ALLOW GREATER PARKING TO BE INCORPORATED WITHIN THE SITE, WHICH WAS ALWAYS A BIG DISCUSSION ISSUE AND TO , I THINK, MORE OR LESS HAVING THE CHANGES TO THE FOOTPRINTS OF THE BUILDINGS BASED ON THE REALLOCATION OR MOVEMENT OF WHERE THE ACCESS POINTS AND SERVICE AREAS ARE. IT IS A FAR BETTER LAYOUT IN TERMS OF URBAN DESIGN AND I THINK IT WORKS BETTER FOR POTENTIAL OCCUPIERS OF THE PROPERTY AND MARKETING OF THE PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE. I WAS STRUGGLING TO SEE HER THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WAS STRUGGLING TO, TO DETERMINE WHETHER THIS COULD BE FORWARD OR MOVE FORWARD AS A MINOR CHANGE, BUT, BECAUSE OF THE SUBSTANTIAL NATURE OF THE REALLOCATION OF THE LAND AREAS, IT IS MORE THAN 10% OF A VARIATION OF THE SITE. WE HAVE MOVED INTO SOMETHING MAJOR .
>> WHEN WITH THE CHANGES FIRST IDENTIFIED WHEN WE REALIZE WE
WANTED TO MAKE AMENDMENTS? >> I THINK THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE WITH THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT , WHETHER THAT WAS THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY OF USING THAT PROPERTY -- THAT WAS RECOGNIZED I THINK BY THE APPLICANT IN THE FIRST MEETING.
FAR BETTER UNDERSTANDING COMING INTO THE CITY FOR WHAT THE DEMANDS WOULD BE ON THE OCCUPIER OR FOR THE OCCUPIERS OF THAT PROPERTY. THAT MARKET KNOWLEDGE, NOT FULLY EXPLORED, DURING THE INITIAL SITE PLAN SO IT WAS ALMOST LIKE LET'S START FROM ZERO , AS SUCH, FIND OUT WHAT WOULD WORK BEST FOR THE
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MARKETING, THE HOTEL, THE ARRANGEMENT, THE PARKING THEN LOOK AT WHAT WE HAD A READY AND SEE HOW WE COULD MOVE THOSE PIECES AROUND. ALMOST LIKE A GAME OF TETRIS, IF YOU LIKE, WITHOUT DOING TOO MUCH DAMAGE TO THE EXISTING SITE PLAN. WESPEAKERS ] >> WHEN MR. WARE CAME ON THE
SCENE, THAT IS MY MEMORY. >> YES.
>> AND MARRIOTT HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN ALL OF THESE
CHANGES? >> THAT IS CORRECT, A COMPONENT OF THE CHANGES. ONE OF SEVERAL THAT KEVIN --
>> ONCE THE APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED, ON THE 20TH, MARRIOTT WILL NOT COME AND ALL OF A SUDDEN HAVE CERTAIN BRAND REQUIREMENTS AND CHANGES AND THAT KIND OF STUFF, RIGHT?
>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> HAVE THEY BEEN IN COMMUNICATION UP TO THIS POINT ?
>> CORRECT, WITH MAINSAIL. MAINSAIL, THEY HAVE INTERNAL CAPACITY WITH MARRIOTT'S PRESCRIBED REQUIREMENTS FOR ATTRIBUTE HOTEL . WE HAVE ACTUALLY TAKEN THAT PLAN AND TRY TO EMBELLISH IT A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE THE LOCATION AND CREAK AND THE MARINA, JUST TRYING TO EMBELLISH IT, IF YOU WILL, MAINSAIL HAS ENGAGED WITH AND CONTINUES TO ENGAGE WITH MARRIOTT AS TO THOSE SPECIFICATIONS.
>> OKAY. >> I HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS,
>> YES, MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, I BELIEVE THE TIME FRAMES YOU ARE REFERRING TO HIT RIGHT HERE ONLINE ITEM NUMBER 5. ON THE CHART, FINALIZED CITY APPROVALS, 90 DAYS, 11-6, 24, JANUARY 28, 2025. THAT FALLS DIRECTLY IN LINE WITH THE 1-29-25 REQUIREMENT FOR SUBMISSION OF THE HOTEL TO MARRIOTT, THEN APPLICATION. THEN I BELIEVE WHAT COMMISSION PROJECT IS REFERRING TO IS THE TIMEFRAME BUILT INTO HERE SO IF YOU LOOK FROM LINE 8 DOWN, THIS IS WHERE IT STARTS DISCUSSION DESIGN TIME, DC PR APPROVALS, PERMITTING, THE ISSUE IS WHETHER THE SITE PLAN AMENDMENT THAT WE ARE REFERRING TO OR ARE AUTOMATICALLY BUILT INTO THIS TIME FRAMING AND THAT TIMEFRAME ALSO EXIST WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIREMENTS AND THE MOBILIZATION PROCUREMENT AND THIS DOES NOT BEGIN UNTIL FEBRUARY 26, HAS BE COMPLETED BY MAY 26. SO THE QUESTION I THINK THAT REALLY EXISTS HERE IS WHETHER THIS REFERS TO THE SITE PLAN AMENDMENT BEEN REQUIRED TO BE DONE BY JANUARY 28, AND 25TH, CANDIDLY I DO NOT RECALL THE DISCUSSIONS OR MEETINGS AS TO WHEN IT WAS INDICATED THAT WOULD BE COMPLETED, BUT I HAVE AND MR. WARE, WHETHER THESE PERMITTING AND DC PR, YOU KNOW THE PERMITTING APPROVALS, WHETHER THAT IS ENCOMPASSING YOUR SITE PLAN AMENDMENT TIMEFRAME? OR WHETHER THERE NEEDS TO BE A SECONDARY SITE PLAN APPROVAL TIMEFRAME BUILT
INTO THIS CHART ? >> I WOULD SAY THAT -- THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT HERE. WOULD BE DESIGNED TIME, THE START DATE FOR THE DESIGN TIME THAT YOU HAVE, AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, DOES THAT ENCOMPASS THE DESIGN FOR THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION ?
>> YES . >> I WOULD SAY THE FINISHED -- THE FINISH DATE FOR THAT IS SEPTEMBER, THAT WOULD INCORPORATE -- YOU NEED LEEWAY TO GET THE SITE PLAN --
>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> TO MAYBE CLARIFY THAT, TO MS. HEDGES EXPLANATION , I THINK I BROUGHT THIS UP TO COMMISSIONER BRODERICK , BECAUSE I'M A MILL ABOUT WHAT I DO, THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS REALLY CLEAR ABOUT START DATES, AND DATES, IF ANY ONE OF THOSE STATES IS ASKEW, IT IS A DEFAULT UNDER THE AGREEMENT. I DID NOT WANT THAT TO OCCUR SO IN THE ESSENCE OF CAUTION, I BROUGHT IT TO THE ATTENTION SO THE BALANCE OF THE PROJECT SCHEDULE, ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION, IT REMAINS INTACT. WE WILL BE WORKING SIMULTANEOUSLY AND IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND, I SAY THAT, BECAUSE
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THE PROPOSED CHANGES THAT WE HAVE HAVE BEEN VETTED BY THE CITY. WE ARE TOGETHER SO WE ARE ALIGNED ON WHAT THAT SHOULD LOOK LIKE. DAVID BAGGETT WITH THE DC, HE SUCCESSFULLY WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS BEFORE. HE RESULTED -- IT RESULTED IN THE ORIGINALLY APPROVED SITE PLAN SO HE IS WELL-VERSED IN WHAT HIS REQUIREMENTS ARE TO KEVIN'S POINT IF IT IS A COMPLETE APPLICATION AND SO FORTH. HAVING BEEN THERE BEFORE, HE KNOWS WHAT IS EXPECTED AND HOW IT IS DELIVERED SO WE ARE CONFIDENT , I SAY THIS AS A DEVELOPER, PENDING THE RESPONSE TIME OF THIRD PARTIES THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER, SO IF THE AGENCY 'S, IF THEY MAINTAIN THEIR TYPICAL REVIEW TIMES, THIS PROJECT SCHEDULE IS STILL INTACT. AGAINST THE ONLY CONCERN I HAD IS JUST THE ONE LINE ITEM AS IT RELATES TO THE SUBMISSION OF THE PROPOSED NEWSITE PLAN. >> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER, WHAT I AM UNDERSTANDING MR. WARE TO SAY TO US IS HE WAS CONCERNED THAT THIS JANUARY 28, 2025 DAY, WE WOULD INTERPRET IT TO MEAN THE SITE PLAN, MAJOR SITE PLAN AMENDMENT HAD TO BE FINALIZED BY JANUARY 28, 2025?
>> THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING .
>> MY MEMORY OF MILLIONS, WHICH I WILL GO BACK AND REVIEW IS THAT WE KNEW THIS MAJOR SITE PLAN AMENDMENT OR A SITE PLAN AMENDMENT WILL BE FORTHCOMING BASED ON WHAT MR. WARE HAD INDICATED. I WILL REVIEW ALL OF THAT IF WE NEED TO MAKE SOME SORT OF CHANGE TO THAT NUMBER OR INCLUDE ADDITIONAL LINE SPECIFICALLY FOR SITE PLAN AMENDMENT WHERE MUST BE SUBMITTED BY OR FINALIZED AND WE COULD ALSO DO THAT, BUT I CAN LOOK BACK AT EVERYTHING. THE INTENT , UNLESS YOU ALL TELL ME, DO NOT WORK ON THE THIRD AMENDMENT, IT WOULD BE TO BRING THAT BACK BEFORE YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING WHICH IS ON JANUARY 21ST, IS ON THE MEANTIME I CAN GET THAT CLARITY AND HAVE YOU KIND OF -- WITH THE PROPOSAL OF HOW TO SOLVE
THAT POTENTIAL ISSUE . >> MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE DATES IN THAT PARTICULAR LINE ITEM, DOES NOT ADJUST THE ACTION DATES, OKAY? THIS IS AN INTERNAL ISSUE TO THE OVERALL AGREEMENT AND NOT THE UNDERLYING TENANTS OF CONSTRUCTION COMMENCEMENT AND ALL THAT, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT MS. HEDGES WITH DIRECTOR FREEMAN, WORK WHAT COULD REALISTICALLY BE DONE. THIS IS A DISCUSSION I HAD WITH MR. HAD MET MS. HEDGES AND IS AWARE, THE TIMELINE ISSUE IS BEING CREATED BY OUR PROCESSES, NOT THEM , NOT A DEVELOPER ISSUE. THIS IS REQUIRING TO GO THROUGH MULTIPLE BOARDS, MULTIPLE PUBLIC NOTICES, ET CETERA, ULTIMATELY WINDING ITS WAY TO THE CITY COMMISSION. I RESPECT THAT PROCESS HAVING SERVED ON THE BOARDS, UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS AND NEED TO GO THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS AGAIN AS DIRECTOR FREEMAN INDICATED, THIS IS NOT A MINOR SITE PLAN REVISION, BUT A MAJOR FIND. TAKEN THAT AT FACE VALUE AND PLAN ACCORDINGLY TO FIX IT BASED ON THE -- NOT OBSTACLES, BUT PROCESSES THAT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IS REQUIRED TO GET THIS BACK AND SET UP WITH A FRIEND OF THE CITY COMMISSION.
I WOULD DEFER THIS TO MS. HEDGES, MR. FREEMAN, THE ENTIRE STEP ON THAT SIDE OF THE EQUATION, TO COME UP WITH A REASONABLE DATE, BUT I BELIEVE MR. FREEMAN IS PROBABLY THE KEY ELEMENT TO MAKE THOSE DETERMINATIONS AND GET THAT INFORMATION IN AGREEMENT WITH MS. HEDGES THEN BRING THAT BACK AS A THIRD OF AMENDMENT ON THE 21ST.
>> GOOD , GLAD WE HAD THE DISCUSSION . COMMISSIONER
GAINES ? >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW I DO NOT EVEN WANT TO HEAR ANYTHING -- I AGREE WITH YOU, IS HEDGES, DIRECTOR FREEMAN, DOING WHATEVER YOU DO, BECAUSE I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MOVE 430. FOR SOMETHING THAT WE KNEW -- NOT THE FIRST TIME WE HEAR ABOUT THIS, SITE PLANS, THE COMMISSION VOTED ON A SECOND AMENDMENT SO I AM NOT FEELING A THIRD AMENDMENT RIGHT NOW. THIS IS WHAT I NEED TO ASK FOR MS. HEDGES AND THE COMMISSION, WE GET THESE UPDATES , FRIDAY AFTERNOON. ALSO FRIDAY MORNING, FRIDAY AFTERNOONS, FOR A MONDAY MEETING. I MEAN, I KNOW WE DO DEADLINES, I ATTORNEY, I KNOW SOMETIMES YOU SENT ON THE LAST DATE, BUT THIS IS NOT THAT KIND OF DEAL, THIS IS FIRST. IF CHANGE IS COMING, GET US THE CHANGES AS SOON AS YOU KNOW
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THEM SO WE COULD START DIGESTING THE INFORMATION.SECOND, MADAME ATTORNEY, MADAM MAYOR, FROM THIS POINT ON, EVERYBODY IS INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT MARRIOTT , MAINSAIL, ANY OTHER THIRD PARTY, ANY REPRESENTATIVE HERE, TO SAY WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO. I UNDERSTAND THE MOU. MOU MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, NOT A CONTRACT IT IS NOT. IT IS NOT A CONTRACT. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT MR. WHERE WILL STAND UP HERE AND SAY SOMETHING IN ACCURATE THAT MARRIOTT HAS TOLD HIM OR MAINSAIL HAS TOLD YOU. I AM NOT SAYING THAT, BUT I WOULD RATHER HEAR FROM A REPRESENTATIVE OF MARRIOTT, REPRESENTATIVE OF MAINSAIL, WITH THAT AUTHORITY OR SOMEBODY ELSE, BECAUSE WHAT I DO NOT WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN, MR. WARE, YOU ARE HERE TODAY, YOU HAVE RELAYED WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD AND THEY GET HERE AND SAY SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT. NOT SAYING THAT THEY WOULD, BUT IT COULD HAPPEN AND EVERYBODY IS UP HERE, AND THAT SHOULD NOT BE ON YOU . YOU ARE NOT MARRIOTT, YOU'RE NOT MAINSAIL SO IF THEY WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS PROJECT AND A PART OF WORKING WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND MEETING IS, REALLY VESTED IN THIS PROJECT, THEY CAN COME AND DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU DO -- DRIVING DOWN, SPENDING 30 MINUTES WITH US TO SAY WHAT MR. WARE -- HE IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, HAD THE CONVERSATION AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I COULD GET A LETTER THIS AFTERNOON AND YOU COULD GET ONE ALSO THIS AFTERNOON, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE LOOKED AT THIS AND THIS IS NOT OUR UNDERSTANDING. WE WANT TO SUBMIT AND YOU AND AND HERE WE GO AGAIN. I AM TIRED OF PEOPLE COMING IN HERE TO SAY WHAT THEY'VE HEARD AND THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING. THIS IS A MAJOR PROJECT WITH A BUNCH OF PROBLEMS. WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION , BUT AT THIS JUNCTURE, WE NEED TO HEAR FROM EVERY PARTY THAT COMES. I AM NOT EXPECTING MR. MARRIOTT OR MARRIOTT JR. OR ANYBODY AT THE HIGH LEVEL, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME, IF YOU LISTEN TO THIS, BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT I AM ASKING. THEY HAVE REPRESENTATIVES AND REPRESENTATIVES THAT CAN COME.
I GUARANTEE YOU THEY HAVE REPRESENTATIVE SOMEWHERE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA THAT CAN COME OVER WITH PROPER ANNOUNCEMENT OF OUR MEETINGS AND COME HERE AND SIT IN THE AUDIENCE AND FACE ALL OF US AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING. I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR -- I HAVE BEEN TOLD NOT TO PUT MY ATTORNEY'S HAT ON HERE IN 2025, BUT I DO NOT WANT TO DO WITH YOUR SITE AND ALL I HAVE HERE IS HEARSAY. I NEED TO START DEALING WITH FACTS, BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT ANY MORE AMENDMENTS. I AM GLAD YOU ARE TRYING TO PUSH IT. I SAID LAST WEEK, SHOW ME, I GUESS I GOT QUOTED SO DO NOT QUOTE ME AGAIN, BUT SHOW ME WHATEVER. I AM AT THAT STATION, BECAUSE EVERY TIME I COME, SOMETHING YOU, SOMETHING DIFFERENT , SOMETHING CHANGING. WHEN YOU ABOUT THESE CHANGES. WHEN YOU ABOUT THE CHANGES SO COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, I AGREE WITH YOU. WHEN YOU ABOUT THE CHANGES OR THE TALK OF CHANGES WHEN WE DID THE SECOND AMENDMENT . SO I SHOULD NOT BE HEARING THAT WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND CHANGE SOMETHING, BECAUSE HE SAID IT . I WAS SITTING RIGHT HERE. HE WANTED TO CHANGE THEM. SO TO STAFF, GREAT JOB, GREAT JOB , MEETINGS, ALL OF THIS STUFF, BUT MS. HEDGES, I NEED SOME HELP HERE. IF THE STAFF IS MEETING WITH THE DEVELOPERS, ESPECIALY ON THIS PROJECT, STUFF IS CHANGING, CAN WE GET SOME TYPE OF UPDATES? IS SOMETHING LEGAL? DO NOT WANT TO BREAK ANY RULES OR UPDATES OF WHAT IS GOING ON BEFORE WE GET INTO A PUBLIC MEETING, PUBLIC MEETING, AND SAYING EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, OUT LIKE THAT, BECAUSE I'M KIND OF FRUSTRATED RIGHT NOW. LIKE I SAID, I BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU TELL ME UNTIL YOU TELL ME SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN, BUT RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE NOT DONE THAT, BUT I KNOW SOMEONE WHO IS IN THIS BUSINESS, MOU, AGAIN, IT MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. YOU CANNOT SUE ON IT , BOTH SIDES CAN WALK AWAY FROM IT RIGHT NOW WHILE WE ARE TALKING, BOTH CAN WALK AWAY FROM IT WITH NO RAMIFICATIONS ON EITHER SIDE. WE GET THIS PROJECT, WE HEAR FROM OTHERS WHO SAY THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO. TIMEOUT FOR THIS , BECAUSE THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN HERE SIX YEARS? BEFORE MY TIME
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SO WHEN DID IT START, 2020 2020? WHENEVER IT STARTED, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT IS WHAT I'M ASKING. I'M ASKING THAT WHEN WE HAVE KINGS LANDING ON THE AGENDA, EVERYBODY, EVERY THIRD PARTY, EVERYBODY THAT IS INVOLVED WITH THIS PROJECT NEEDS TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE SO THAT IF I HAVE A QUESTION, IF COMMISSIONER TAYLOR HAS A QUESTION, I'M HAPPY TO ASK QUESTIONS, BECAUSE THEY WERE COMING FROM OVER HERE OR COMMISSIONER BRODERICK HAS COMMISSIONER -- COMMISSIONER JOHNSON IS NOT HERE SO I CAN ONLY IMAGINE HIS QUESTIONS TODAY . I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THOSE, BUT WE HAVE EVERYBODY HERE AND WE DO NOT HAVE TO PUT MR. WARE ON THE SPOT TO PUT DIRECTOR FREEMAN ON THE SPOT, BECAUSE THEY'RE RELYING ON WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD ON THE PHONE CALL OR ZOOM CALL OR MEETINGS OR WHATEVER IT IS , WE HEAR FROM THEM. NOW WE HAVE SOMETHING ON RECORD FROM THE MARRIOTT -- MARRIOTT AND MAINSAIL, ANY OF THE THIRD-PARTY SO THAT IS MY ASK.GO AHEAD . THAT IS MY ASK. SO I WILL SIT BACK AND QUIET. MR. WARE, CAN YOU EXPLAIN -- IF YOU ALREADY HAVE MAYBE I MISSED IT, BUT CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO EVERYBODY WHO IS LISTENING, WHY WE EVEN HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA GOING FROM HARBERT TO WHAT WAS IT , LIVE OAK? CAN YOU CLAIM THAT AGAIN TO THE PAPAL -- PEOPLE WHO MISSED IT , BECAUSE THIS IS YOU, NOT MARRIOTT, BUT YOU , EXPLAIN WHAT IS GOING ON AND WHY HARBERT IS OUT OR WANTS TO BE OUT AND LIVE OAK IS COMING IN?
>> IF I MAY, PRIOR TO ANSWERING THEM, WHICH I WILL DO, I JUST FEEL THAT I SHOULD CLARIFY OR HIGHLIGHT MAYBE A COUPLE OF THINGS AND ONE IS THAT THERE IS A SIGNED TERM SHEET BETWEEN MAINSAIL AND MARRIOTT MEANING THAT THEY'VE COME TO TERMS.
>> I UNDERSTAND. >> THAT IS ONE THING, BUT SECONDLY , CARL DAGNY, I BELIEVE, CAME TO THE CITY AND ATTENDED A MEETING AND PRESENTED MARRIOTT AND THEIR RATIONALE, THE NEED FOR THE HOTEL AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS SO AGAIN JUST IN THE ESSENCE OF TRANSPARENCY, I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT OCCURRED.
NOT QUESTIONING OR DEBATING YOUR REQUEST AND I WILL PROCEED ACCORDINGLY AND MAKE THAT REQUEST , BUT I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THOSE PARTIES THAT YOU MENTIONED HAVE, IN FACT, ENGAGED AT SOME POINT ALONG THE WAY BY DEMONSTRATING THEIR COMMITMENT OR OTHERWISE, OTHERWISE
INTEREST IN MOVING FORWARD. >> AS IT RELATES TO THE SWITCH, FROM HARBERT TO LIVE OAK, RELATIVELY SIMPLE. I SAY THAT, BUT AT MY YOUNG AND HEALTHY AGE OF 64, PERSONAL DECISION TO DEVOTE MORE OF MY TIME AND ATTENTION TO LOCAL PROJECTS. I HAVE FAMILY IN JACKSONVILLE, JUST MOVED THERE 2016, SO I AM BEGINNING TO BUILD SOME THINGS THERE FOR FAMILY.
SO I MADE A PERSONAL DECISION TO TRY TO FIND A LOCAL COMPANY THAT SHARED MY VALUES AND MY PHILOSOPHY OF DOING BUSINESS.
TAKING ADVANTAGE OF MY 40 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE DOING WHAT I DO, SO JUST SO HAPPENS ONE DAY I WAS IN A MEETING WITH PAUL TOES HE, THE OWNER OF LIVE OAK, LIVE OAK WAS THE CONTRACTOR ON 133 UNIT APARTMENT PROJECT THAT I JUST COMPLETED IN JACKSONVILLE SO WE GOT TO KNOW EACH OTHER VERY WELL OVER THOSE THREE YEARS. HE IS A NATIVE BORN AND RAISED WITH FAMILY, SO I HAVE BEEN TO MENTION TO HIM THAT I WAS INTERESTED IN LEAVING HARBERT AND TRYING TO FIND A LOCAL COMPANY. WELL, AGAIN BY THE GRACE OF GOD AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, AND CONNECTING DOTS, HE HAPPENED TO BE LOOKING TO ESTABLISH A DEVELOPMENT DIVISION WITHIN HIS COMPANY. SO, BECAUSE OF OUR PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP AND SUCCESS ON THE OTHER PROJECT, MY LOCAL PRESENCE NOW WE DECIDED TO MERGE IN THAT RESPECT SO AT THAT POINT, WE, WE WENT BACK TO HARBERT, I HAVE TO SAY THAT MY RELATIONSHIP WITH HARBERT, TODAY, IT IS INTACT AND RESPECTED AND LASTING 11 YEARS -- THE LAST 11 YEARS OF MY LIFE
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WERE DEDICATED TO HARBERT AND I THINK THAT WOULD STAND UP AND SAY IT IS A GREAT RELATIONSHIP OR ALL AROUND AND DAVID WILLIAMS, CL, BECAME FRIENDS WITH HIM ALONG THE WAY, SENT A REALLY NICE ANNOUNCEMENT TO HARBERT WHEN I MADE MY DEPARTURE. SO TO THE EXTENT THAT EVEN WHEN I WAS WITH HARBERT, I AM DOING WHAT I DO. SO FROM HARBERT WHISKEY STANDPOINT, NOW THAT I AM WORKING WITH LIVE OAK, IT DID NOT JUST MAKE ANY SENSE ARE MUCH SENSE, ANYWAY, TO MAINTAIN INTEREST IN THE PROJECT EVEN THOUGH THEY KNOW ME AND TRUST ME, I AM NOT . SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, DO NOT KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION PUT THAT IS THE HONEST TRUTH.>> THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR. WARE , BUT I AM NOT TRYING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. I AM NOT TRYING TO BUY INTO YOUR BUSINESS DECISIONS , BUT WHEN THERE IS A TALK THAT HARBERT IS THIS GREAT COMPANY, MOVING THE PROJECT ON , THEN THERE IS A CHANGE, THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WANT TO KNOW
>> THAT IS WHY AS TO WHAT I ASKED YOU , BUT I AM TRYING TO PUT OUT THE LITTLE FIRES THAT ARE BEING STARTED IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HARBERT GOT RID OF HIM . DID NOT WANT THE PROJECT OR HARBERT KNOWS A PROJECT IS NOT GOOD. THAT IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO PUT OUT. YOU SAID THE CEO PUT OUT A
>> ANNOUNCEMENT . I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A COPY OF HAPPY TO
SHARE THAT . >> IS A NET ATTACHED TO THE
>> I READ SO MUCH. >> IT IS ATTACHED.
>> I WILL GO BACK AND READ IT AGAIN.
>> THAT IS A RIGHT. >> FIRST TO SAY THAT I MISSED IT, BUT THAT IS THE REASON I ASKED YOU --
>> UNDERSTOOD. >> THE QUESTION, WELCOME TO
>> IT IS GREAT, LOVE MY CITY, BUT --
>> WE NEVER NEEDED THE INTERNET.
>> RUMORS SPREAD FASTER HERE THAN ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY SO I WANTED TO ASK YOU PERSONALLY TO SAY WHY WE ARE HERE AND WE GO FROM THERE SO THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR, I WILL SIT BACK
AND LET THE OTHERS ASK. >> ONE CLOSING COMMENT ON THAT, COMMISSIONER, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTIONS. YOU MAY NOT THINK SO, BUT I DO AND I HOPE THAT YOU HAVE LEARNED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IN MY INTERACTIONS WITH EVERYBODY AT THE CITY THAT I AM COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT ABOUT WHAT I DO AND HOW I DO IT SO I ALWAYS WELCOME A DISCUSSION OR
QUESTION AT ANY TIME. >> MR. WARE, IF I DID NOT HAVE THAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP THAT I HAVE WITH YOU, AS OF RIGHT NOW, I WOULD'VE NEVER ASKED THAT QUESTION, BUT WOULD'VE LET IT GONE THROUGH AND LET PEOPLE THINK WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT YOU, BUT I ASKED THE QUESTION, BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN HONEST, STRAIGHTFORWARD, EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TRIED TO DO FOR THIS PROJECT SO I WANTED YOU TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC WHY AND WHAT WAS GOING ON.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.
>> MR. TAYLOR, YOU BEEN PATIENT, GO AHEAD. Ú>> MS. HEDG
>> I WANT TO RECAP FOR MY OWN SANITY. WE ARE BASICALLY TRYING TO DECIDE WHETHER THE SITE PLAN AMENDMENT FALLS UNDER THE INITIAL CITY APPROVAL DEADLINE OR THE DESIGN PHASE, RIGHT? OR
TIME? >> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER TAYLOR, YES, THAT IS ESSENTIALLY HOW WE UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE . CANDIDLY, I DO NOT RECALL FROM THE MEETINGS WHAT WAS SAID RELATED TO THE 90 DAY APPROVAL. IT SEEMS TO ME MORE SO THAT MR. WARE IS CONCERNED THAT HE DOES NOT WANT US TO INTERPRET IT IN A WAY THAT WOULD DEFAULT HIM, NOT NECESSARILY THAT HE SPECIFICALLY BELIEVES 128 WAS THE DEADLINE, BUT HE WAS AFRAID OF THAT INTERPRETATION FROM THE CITY AND SEEKING CLARITY MOVING FORWARD. SO HE DOES NOT RISK A D SPOT AND WHAT HE IS DOING -- DEFAULT AND WHAT HE IS DOING.
CANDIDLY I DO BELIEVE THAT WE ARE TALKING IS WORKED INTO THE DEVELOPMENT TIME FRAMES ALREADY EXISTING, SO IT MAY JUST BE SOMETHING IN WRITING TO ASSURE HIM THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO DEVELOP HIM ON 1-29 IF HIS SITE PLAN AMENDMENT IS NOT FINALIZED. LIKE I SAID, I WOULD NEED TO LOOK BACK AT THE MEETINGS TO WHAT WAS SPECIFICALLY SAID, TO SEE WHAT THAT TRIGGER DATE WAS IF IT WAS SPECIFICALLY DISCUSSED, BUT WHAT I HEAR IS THAT I THINK EVERYONE SAY IS THAT 1-29 IS
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NOT A REALISTIC TIMELINE FOR THE AMENDMENT SO I CAN WORK WITH HIS TEAM AND WITH THE ASSURANCE AND PRESENTED TO YOU.SO EVERYONE IS CLEAR, I KNOW THE COMMISSION IS AWARE THIS, BUT ANYONE LISTENING, SIMPLY AS HAVING THE DISCUSSION OF ENTERTAINING A THIRD AMENDMENT AND DRAFTING A 30. DOES NOT MEAN THIS COMMISSION IS APPROVING THE THIRD AMENDMENT OBVIOUSLY. IT HAS TO BE SPECIFICALLY REVIEWED AND VOTED ON SO EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION AND WHAT THE TERMS MAY INCLUDE OR NOT INCLUDE, THAT WILL BE BROUGHT BACK BEFORE THE COMMISSION AS WELL AS THE PRA BOARD, SPECIFIC REVIEW APPROVAL AND SIGNATURE, IF APPROVED, DOES NOT MEAN YOU TIE YOUR HANDS TO APPROVE SET AMENDMENT ONCE IT IS PRESENTED
TO YOU. >> OKAY. I WILL STATE THAT I THINK -- WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON IN THE LAST 90 DAYS? IF NO CITY APPROVALS HAVE BEEN OBTAINED, A --
>> I DID NOT MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.
>> GO AHEAD. >> ONE, AGAIN, REFINING THE SITE PLAN CHANGES TO BE SURE THAT IT IS ALMOST AT NAUSEA BEFORE WE COMMISSION EDC TO START PUTTING IT IN PRINT , SO THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON. IT HAS BEEN FINALIZED NOW. THEN THE WHOLE TRANSITION OF ME TO LIVE OAK FROM HARBERT , YOU KNOW, I STARTED AT LIVE OAK IN DECEMBER . THE BEGINNING OF DECEMBER , SO THERE IS A TRANSITION OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN HOW DID WE ARRIVE OR HOW DO WE GET TO WHERE WE ARE GOING ? THROUGH THAT PROCESS, 30, 45 DAYS, THAT IS WHEN IT WAS DETERMINED THE BEST PATH WAS FOR HARBERT TO REMOVE THEMSELVES AND JUST LET LIVE OAK TAKE CONTROL AND MOVE FORWARD AGAIN WITH ME KIND OF
LEADING THE CHARGE. >> OKAY. FROM WHAT I HEAR, CAN WE GET A CONSENSUS TODAY OR MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING TO SAY THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE HOLDING THEM IN DEFAULT OF THE CONTRACT BASED ON THE SITE PLAN AMENDMENT? MY ONLY REASON TO SAY THAT IS I AM NEW UP HERE . I DO NOT WANT THE FIRST THING OR KINGS LANDING THINK THAT I AM VOTING ON SHOW UP IN -- EXTENDING THE 30 DAY GRACE PERIOD. I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THE IN THE NEWSPAPER OR ON THE TV. THE CITIZENS ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS. EVEN IF IT DOES NOT AFFECT THE TIMELINE OF THE CONSTRUCTION OR THE OVER ALL CONCEPT TIMEFRAME, VOTING ON SOMETHING THAT WILL EXTEND ANYTHING IN A 30 DAY PERIOD, I AM NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. THE ONLY THIRD AMENDMENT THAT I WOULD ENTERTAIN AT THIS POINT WOULD BE HOW WE ARE GOING TO REMOVE THE VILLA TIMEFRAME SO WE COULD BUMP UP THE CONSTRUCTION TIMEFRAME ON THE BULK OF THE KINGS LANDING PROJECT, BECAUSE IN THE SCHEDULE YOU HAVE UP HERE, IT SHOWS -- LET'S SEE, 14 MONTH CONSTRUCTION TIMEFRAME FOR THE VILLAS THEN THE HOTEL TIMEFRAME CONSTRUCTION HAPPENING THE DAY AFTER THAT. WITH THAT BEING ESSENTIALLY REMOVED, WITH LAST WEEK 'S MEETING FROM THE OVERALL PROJECT, I FEEL LIKE THAT COULD BE OR WE COULD BE BUMPING UP THE CONSTRUCTION TIMEFRAME ON THE REST OF THE PROJECT, BECAUSE FROM WHAT WE UNDERSTOOD LAST WEEK, THERE WILL NOT BE INTERACTION AT ALL, GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME, THERE IS NO SITE INTERACTION BETWEEN THE TWO. SO I SEE NO REASON WHY WE CANNOT BUMP THAT UP TO REMOVE THE 14 MONTH DELAY, INTO THE HOTEL CONSTRUCTION TIMEFRAME.
>> IF I MAY, FROM THE TIME I WAS INVOLVED I GOT INVOLVED, THE VILLAS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A SEPARATE COME OF -- COMPONENT OF KINGS LANDING. EVEN AT THE BEGINNING, ALMOST AUTONOMOUS OF WHAT WE WERE DOING, SO THIS SCHEDULE, THE TIME FRAMES, FROM MY STANDPOINT, YOU REMOVE THE VILLAS , ALL OF THIS STAYS IN PLACE. THIS IS WHAT WE NEED, NOTWITHSTANDING THE VILLAS, EVER, SO TO SPEAK . THE VILLAS WERE GOING TO COME ALONG AND AS A RECALL THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BASICALLY SAID THE HOTEL WAS PHASE ONE. THE INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY FOR THE HOTEL, PHASE ONE. THERE WAS SOME BURGETT -- BURBAGE THAT SAID IF YOU'RE INCLINED OR OTHERWISE WOULD LIKE TO YOU COULD DO THE VILLAS TOO. AUDUBON, DALE AND I TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLY ON AND DECIDED FOR HER NUMBER REGIONS THAT THE VILLAS WOULD BE A SEPARATE PROJECT SO THIS SEPARATE
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SCHEDULE FOR ME AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IN KINGS LANDING, HEAVY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE VILLAS. SO THIS SCHEDULE REMAINS INTACT FOR WHAT WE ARE DOING, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE WILL?>> YEAH, BUT I SEE THE VILLA'S CONSTRUCTION TIMEFRAME ENDING ON MAY 19 , 2026 THEN CONSTRUCTION TIME FRAME FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE STARTING ON MAY 20, 2026 P.M. THAT MAKES ME FEEL YOU'RE WAITING ON THE TOWNHOMES TO BE COMPLETED
>> THAT IS JUST A COINCIDENCE?
>> I MEAN, I HAVE WORKED WITH HARVEY AND HIS CREW, JACK AND HIS GROUP, ABOUT TIMING. THESE MEETINGS WE HAVE HAD AND OTHER MEETINGS OUTSIDE OF THOSE , WHERE EVERYONE WAS INVOLVED , TO BE SURE THAT THE UTILITY WORK THAT IS BEING DONE, INFRASTRUCTURE WORK BEING DONE BY THE CITY, ON INDIAN RIVER AND AVENUE B, I BELIEVE, AND NOW WITH THE ADVENT OF THE RELOCATION, RELOCATION ALONG BACCHUS, YES, TO BE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A HOTEL BUILT AND NO UTILITIES OR INFRASTRUCTURE AND SO FORTH. I THINK THEY WILL ATTEST TO THIS AS WELL, WE HAVE SPENT TIME BEING SURE THAT OUR RESPECTIVE SCHEDULES ARE IN CONCERT AND HARMONY SO THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN
>> GREAT QUESTION SO I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION.
>> SATISFIES ME. I THINK I'VE GOT ANOTHER QUESTION, BUT I WILL -- THE TIMEFRAME THING, I WANT TO LIMIT YOU ARE GOOD?
>> GO AHEAD. >> I'M TRYING TO SEE, COMMISSIONER, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. YOU ARE ASKING US TO GIVE A VOTE TO SAY WE ARE NOT GOING TO HOLD THEM IN BREACH , BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE THIS THING ABOUT JANUARY?
>> I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING -- I WILL ASK MS. HEDGES, LEGALLY, HOW CAN WE ACCOMPLISH THAT. SO JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY A QUESTION TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ME OF MY
VOTE. >> FIRMWARE I AM AT, COMMISSIONER BRODERICK , ABOUT THESE BEING INTERNAL DEADLINES, I FEEL LIKE WE COULD HAVE SOME CONTROL OVER THAT AND SAY WE ARE COMFORTABLE THE SITE PLAN MOVING INTO THE DESIGN TIMEFRAME , EIGHT-MONTH, CONSENSUS FROM US, RIGHT?
>> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER TAYLOR, WHAT I AM UNDERSTANDING YOUR CONCERN QUESTION TO GET AT IS YOU DO NOT WANT TO INCREASE ANY OF THE DEVELOPMENT TIMELINE SETTING EXIST INCLUDING PERMITTING APPROVAL ON THAT? I THINK WE ALL ARE HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATION, BUT THE DEADLINE THAT MR. WARE BROUGHT UP THAT POTENTIALLY MIGHT TRIGGER A DEFAULT, IS THE 1-28-25, HAVING IT BACK BEFORE YOU ON 1-21 SO NOTHING WOULD HAPPEN OR YOU WOULD HAVE A DECISION AS TO WHETHER YOU ARE ENTERING THE THIRD AMENDMENT PRIOR TO THE 1-28-25 DEADLINE AND CANDIDLY IF YOU DENY THE THIRD AMENDMENT, WHICH WOULD PUT LIVE OAK IN PLACE OF HARBERT, THAT WOULD TRIGGER A DEFAULT ON AUDUBON ANYWAY, BECAUSE THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS SO SPECIFIC AS TO THE JOINT VENTURE DEAL BETWEEN AUDUBON AND HARBERT BEING FINALIZED. SO I DO NOT THINK YOU WOULD MEET A VOTE TODAY, ANY ISSUE THAT EXISTS WILL BE RESOLVED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ON THE 21ST HIM IF WE NEED TO INCLUDE SOME LANGUAGE FOR CLARITY AS TO WHAT THE 1-28 DATELINE MEANT, WE COULD DO THAT IN THE PROPOSED THIRD AMENDMENT.
>> OKAY. >> OKAY, HAPPY WITH THAT.
>> I'M GOOD, MADAM MAYOR, BECAUSE I THINK I'M JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU, NEXT MEETING, RIGHT, JENNY 21ST, NEXT
SCHEDULED MEETING, RIGHT? >> YES, ON THE TUESDAY SINCE
MONDAY IS A HOLIDAY. >> THAT IS WHEN WE'RE COMING BACK HERE , SO THE FLAVOR I'M GETTING FROM THE COMMISSION AS I THINK WE MIGHT NEED BE VACANT SEAT OVER THERE TO BE A PART OF THE VOTE, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE CRAZY TO LOOK AT A -- NOTHING ACCOMPLISHED SO I THINK WE DO EVERYTHING ON THE 21ST AND I GET WITH YOU AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN DO THAT AND GET IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC SO EVERYBODY WILL BE HAPPY WITH IT
>> GO AHEAD. >> I THINK ALONG WITH THAT OF POSSIBLE ON THE 21ST, WE COULD HAVE A PRESENTATION OF WHAT IS
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CHANGING ON THE SITE PLAN AND ACTUALLY SEE SOME DEFINITIVE THINGS ON INCREASED PARKING OR WHATEVER ELSE YOU ARE DISCUSSING, AN ACTUAL PLAN TO LOOK AT THAT?>> THE PLAN IS NOT DRAWN. I CAN GIVE YOU A MEMO THAT DETAILS
WET -- HAPPY TO DO THAT. >> JUST A SUMMARY .
>> RIGHT. >> RESPOND TO THE RESIDENTS ' REQUEST. IF WE'RE DONE WITH THE PROJECT, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR SOME MORE -- TALK TO ME ABOUT THE TRIBUTE BRAND, HOW YOU THINK THAT WOULD FIT IN FROM THE OR WITH THE CITY OF
FORT PIERCE. >> AGAIN, I AM NOT THE PERSON TO ANSWER THAT. MAINSAIL IS, BUT I WOULD JUST SAY THIS, MARRIOTT IS AN EXCEPTIONAL COMPANY AND VERY SUCCESSFUL COMPANY AND HAS CRITERIA THAT IS VERY EXHAUSTIVE AND THOROUGH. FOR ME AS A DEVELOPER GOING AT RISK ON WHAT THEY ARE RECOMMENDING, I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE AND CONFIDENT, BUT I AM SORRY I CANNOT EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU, BUT I HAVE THE FAITH AND CONFIDENCE IN MARRIOTT AND MAINSAIL TO DELIVER THE PRODUCT THAT THEY ARE EXPOSING THEMSELVES AND THEIR REPUTATION AND THEIR BRAND AND THEIR DOLLARS FOR THE TRIBUTE HOTEL IN FORT PIERCE. I WISH I COULD BE MORE CLEAR, BUT
I CANNOT . >> HAVE THEY PROVIDED ANY DOCUMENTATION AS FAR AS A MARKET STUDY OR ANYTHING LIKE
THAT? >> MARRIOTT HAS, BUT I HAVE NOT
SEEN IT. >> YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THAT ?
>> I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT. >> I CAN ANSWER IT OR FOR SOMETHING THAT DICTATES OR INFLUENCES WHY THEY BELIEVE IT
SPEAKERS ] >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE
INTERESTING. >> TO MAKE THAT REQUEST AND AND
>> MR. TAYLOR, ON THE QUESTION WHEN I INTERVIEWED CARL CAGNEY, THE MARKET REPRESENTATIVE FOR MARRIOTT, FOR FLORIDA, HE WAS EXPLAINING THE RATIONALE FOR THE TRIBUTE PLAN -- BRAND BEING THE MOST APPLICABLE IN CONTRAST, JW MARRIOTT BRAND OR MARRIOTT MARQUIS AND, WOULD NOT FIT WITH THIS MARKET. HE HAD DATA AND I AM ASSUMING WE COULD TRY TO GET ACCESS TO THAT, BUT THIS WAS BACK IN MONTH OF MAY WHEN THE EXPLANATION WAS PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION, BUT THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARRIVED AT THE DECISION. AUDUBON DID NOT REQUEST THAT BE
A TRIBUTE BAND -- BRAND. >> I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THEIR MARKETING EXPERTISE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT BRANDS WOULD
SPEAKERS ] >> I AM MAKING THAT REQUEST.
>> I WILL GET THE INFORMATION.
>> LIKE THE A LUMINARY HOTEL IN FORT MYERS?
>> I BELIEVE THAT HIS AUTOGRAPH.
>> AUTOGRAPH, OKAY. THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO KNOW WHAT OTHER
HOTELS ARE FOR MAINSAIL. >> YEAH, THERE IS A LIST OF TRIBUTE BRANDS AND SEVERAL HIM FLORIDA, ORLANDO, COUPLE OF
>> I THINK I AM DONE. >> MADAM MAYOR, SO WE CAN WRAP THIS UP, I HOPE COMMISSION TELL HER, WE DO NOT GET AWAY FROM THE TRIBUTE, BECAUSE THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF THE PROJECT WAS A TRIBUTE STYLE HOTEL, ENHANCING THE DOWNTOWN AREA , ENHANCING THE WHOLE OR WHAT WE CALL THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN SO THAT IS WHAT WE SOLD THE PUBLIC. WE SOLD THE PUBLIC ON A TRIBUTE HOTEL TO REVITALIZE THE DOWNTOWN AREA . OUR GOAL WAS, AND LISTENING TO EVERYTHING , THE GOAL WAS TO MAKE THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE A DESTINATION CITY. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID AT THE FIRST MEETING WHERE I TOLD YOU I THOUGHT EVERYBODY WAS HERE TO SEE ME GETS WHEN INPUT IT WAS ABOUT THE KINGS LANDING AND THAT , BUT THAT IS WHAT WE SOLD AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING WITH ALL OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING AND DOWNTOWN MASTER PLANNING AND EVERYTHING WE HAVE DONE AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE ENVISIONED. I TOO WITH MARRIOTT REWARDS AND STATED EVERY LEVEL OF MARRIOTT POSSIBLE AND I'M GLAD THEY WERE NOT SAYING A JW OR JW DOWN THERE, BECAUSE NO
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ONE IS COMING TO SPEND THAT A JW, FORT PIERCE, CANNOT WALK OUT ON STREET TO GET SOMETHING TO EAT. IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN SO I THINK WE SHOULD NOT SELL OUR CITY SHORT. IF MARRIOTT, COMING HERE, SAYING THEY COULD PUT IT HERE AND IT WORKS, LET'S MAKE IT WORK, BECAUSE I AM NOT MARRIOTT, DO NOT WORK FOR THEM , BUT ALL MY LIFE I HAVE KNOWN MARRIOTT IS NOT INTHE BUSINESS TO LOSE MONEY. >> RIGHT.
>> LET'S JUST -- I MEAN, THEY ARE NOT -- IF YOU JUST RIGHT AROUND THE CITY OR THE COUNTY, AROUND THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT, LOOK HOW MANY MARRIOTT'S HAVE POPPED UP , SOME TYPE, POPPED UP IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY, EVERYWHERE YOU SEE, YOU MARRIOTT HOTELS. THEY ARE NOT IN THE BUSINESS TO LOSE MONEY . SO I HOPE THAT WE ARE NOT -- I DO WANT -- I DO NOT WANT TO GO DOWN THE PATH THAT WE WANT THAT TYPE OF HOTEL, BECAUSE I THINK IT GOES TO EVERYTHING THAT THE COMMISSION HAS SET OUT TO DO. I THINK IF WE COULD EVER GET, AS YOU SAY, COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, GET SOME SHOVELS IN THE GROUND, SOME COLUMNS GOING OUT, I THINK IT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH SO I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SEE THE INFORMATION AND I HOPE THAT MARRIOTT IS TRUE TO WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN
TELLING THESE GENTLEMEN. >> I WAS NOT EXPRESSING ANY TYPE OF CONCERN ABOUT TRIBUTE. I THINK THAT IS A GREAT BRAND FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. DEFINITELY LEAN ON MARRIOTT, BECAUSE IT IS THEIR MONEY, IT WILL BE SUCCESSFUL, I THINK HAVING THAT TYPE OF BRAND WHERE IT IS LUXURY, WHICH IS WHAT WE WERE HOPING FOR IN THE BEGINNING, LIKE THAT ITSELF WILL HELP MAKE FORT PIERCE THE DESTINATION WE WANT IT TO BE AND HAVING THE HOTEL IS THE FIRST DEATH .
>> -- FIRST STEP. >> IF THEY ARE LISTENING, PEACOCK HIGHWAYMEN, THINGS THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT .
>> MADAM MAYOR? >> MR. WARE, YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH A LOT OF CONVERSATION TODAY, VERY GLAD OUR COMMISSION DID THAT, BECAUSE WE ARE ALL VERY INTERESTED IN BEING TRANSPARENT SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS THAT WE ARE DOING. WE HAVE A PARTNER THAT IS TRANSPARENT SO THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO ASK YOU IS THAT YOU HEARD SOME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT. I THINK YOU HAVE ADDRESSED SOME OF THE CONCERNS, BUT CAN YOU THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE THAT MIGHT ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF AT LEAST THE
COMMENT THAT WAS HERE TODAY? >> I THINK YOU HAVE ADDRESSED
EVERYTHING. >> OF WHAT I REMEMBER THE COMMENTS MADE OF LEMON I THINK YOU ADDRESSED MOST OF IT, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE UP OPPORTUNITY --
>> APPRECIATE THAT. >> I AM GLAD COMMISSIONER TAYLOR WAS ASKING ABOUT THE TRIBUTE HOTEL AND QUALITY OF THE HOTEL, BECAUSE WE HAVE FROM THE BEGINNING, I KNOW OUR CITIZENS HAVE, INSISTED THAT WE HAVE A QUALITY PRODUCT HERE.
NOT TO, QUOTE, SETTLE FOR SOMETHING LESS THAN A QUALITY PRODUCT SO I THINK THAT IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT. I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU ARE DOING AND I DID READ YOUR LETTER AND READ ABOUT LIVE OAK AND HARBERT , FOR THE TRANSPARENCY , BUT ARE THEY INVOLVED IN THIS WORK AT ALL?
>> NO . >> IT IS NOW LIVE OAK AND THE BACKING OF LIFE, BUT YOU ARE DOING FOR LIVE OAK WHAT YOU DID
FOR HARBERT? >> THAT IS CORRECT .
>> SO YOU BRING TO THE TABLE ALL THE RESOURCES AND WHAT I HEARD EARLIER FROM MR. HAWKINS IS YOU ARE THE PROJECT MANAGER, COORDINATOR? THE GRANT OBAMA OR WHATEVER RIGHT SO I GUESS.
>> WE ARE DONE WITH YOU AND NOT AUDUBON OR MR. MADISON OR DEALING JUDGMENT WE ARE DEALING WITH YOU?
>> YES. >> YOU'RE IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH MAINSAIL AND MARRIOTT? I KNOW WHAT COMMISSIONER GAINES SAID IS THAT HE WANTS SOMEBODY HERE THAT COULD SPEAK FOR MARRIOTT AND I HOPE THAT THE CAN BE HERE . I DO NOT WANT TO MAKE UNREASONABLE DEMANDS, BUT I THINK THAT IS PRETTY REASONABLE , NOT HERE EVERY SINGLE MEANING, BUT THEY COULD BE HERE FOR -- SO WE COULD HEAR FROM THEM AND THE PUBLIC CAN HEAR FROM THEM. I, FOR ONE, APPRECIATE, BECAUSE I HAVE HAD
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CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU AND APPRECIATE YOUR HONESTY AND TRANSPARENCY, QUITE FRANKLY NOT ACTING LIKE A DEVELOPER ANDTHANK YOU VERY MUCH . >> THAT IS A COMPLIMENT, THANK
YOU. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK?
>> YES, DIRECTOR CISNEROS IS HERE FROM FPUA. EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION WAS HAD PREVIOUSLY WITH THE NEW DEVELOPERS OF THE TOWNHOMES , RELATIVE TO UTILITY PLACEMENT . DESIGN, LAYOUT, MADAM MAYOR, CAN WE REQUEST HARVEY TO COME BACK?
>> JUST AIR IT ALL OUT. >> FROM A SPECTACLE ESTIMATE TECHNICAL STANDPOINT, THERE SHOULD BE SOME COMFORT IN THE DEVELOPERS OF THE TOWNHOMES, NO LONGER AFFILIATED WITH BILL WARE 'S OPERATION SO HAVING SAID THAT, POTENTIALLY COULD BE A CONFLICT ON THE UTILITY AND ALL THAT SO I WENT DIRECTLY TO THE DIRECTOR TO GET HIS INPUT AND HAVE HIM RESEARCH THIS PRIOR TO TODAY'S MEETING. AND LIGHTNESS TO THE ACCELERATED TIMELINE FOR THE BILL IS TO COME OUT OF THE GROUND, IMPACTING THE KINGS LANDING IN ANY WAY OR VICE VERSA?
>> GOOD MORNING, WE HAVE METERS READY TO GO SO AS SOON AS THE CONSTRUCTION START, WE WILL PUT THE METERS IN. DIRECTLY ANSWERING A QUESTION, UTILITIES ARE THERE, WASTEWATER, ELECTRIC, GAS, READILY AVAILABLE TO CONSTRUCT AS
QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. >> YOU SEE NO PROBLEMS ?
>> NO PROBLEMS. WE WANT THE METERS TO TURN AS QUICKLY AS
POSSIBLE. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
>> HARVEY ANSWERED ALL MY QUESTIONS RELATIVE TO THIS
POINT LAST WEEK . >> YOU'RE IN GOOD CONTACT.
>> WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH MR. WARE AND HIS STAFF, CONSTANTLY COORDINATING THE UTILITY ASPECT OF THE PROJECTS.
OBVIOUSLY FPUA STAFF WORKS WITH THE CITY STAFF AND ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS GOING ON IN THE AIR SO UTILITIES ARE READY AND
READY TO GO. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> APPRECIATE IT. >> MADAM MAYOR?
>> JUST TO CLARIFY, IN CASE YOU DO NOT KNOW, BUT THE FRANCHISE APPLICATION IS BEING SUBMITTED TO MARRIOTT BY MAINSAIL, IT IS HOTEL SPECIFIC FOR A TRIBUTE. NOT JUST A MARRIOTT BRAND . AND THE QUESTION OF WHETHER IT IS A TRIBUTE OR NOT? IT IS A TRIBUTE APPLICATION, JUST FOR THE RECORD.
>> THANK YOU, FOR THE RECORD. MISS HEDGES AS WELL THE ONE THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT BASED ON THE QUESTIONS YOU ARE ASKING OF MR. WARE A FEW MINUTES AGO, I THINK MR. WARE BRIEFLY TOUCH ON THIS IN THE BEGINNING OF HIS PRESENTATION, BUT THE JOINT VENTURE SALIENT TERMS BETWEEN THE LIVE OAK AND AUDUBON ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN THAT OF AUDUBON AND HARBERT , IN THAT ORIGINALLY HARBERT AND AUDUBON HAD A 60-40 SPLIT ON CONTROL OF THIS PROJECT, BASICALLY. THE WAY I READ THE NEW TERMS, MR. WARE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG OR EXPAND AS NEEDED, THIS WILL BE 100% NOW WITH LIVE OAK? THE CONTRIBUTION FROM AUDUBON IS SIMPLY THE LAND, AS I READ THIS, BUT THE CONTROL OF THIS PROJECT WILL NOW BE 100% LIVE
OAK, NO SPLIT WITH AUDUBON? >> THAT IS CORRECT.
>> THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
>> YES. >> THANK YOU, HE STARTED OUT WHEN YOU ARE SPEAKING, A REDUCED ROLE SO THAT WOULD BE
SPEAKERS ] >> LIMITED PARTNER.
>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING
>> ONE MORE, PROBABLY NOT FOR MR. WARE, BUT OPERABLY DIRECTED TO SCOTT OR MR. MADISON. THE PROPERTY ITSELF, WITH THAT TEMPORARY FENCE THAT HAS NOW BECOME THE PERMANENT FENCE, BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN THERE FOREVER, FOR LACK OF A BETTER THE CORN, LOOKS LIKE OVER THERE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME SCREENING ON THE FENCE A POSSIBLE, BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING SITE WORK NOT BEING DONE FOR ANOTHER YEAR AND I'M TIRED OF LOOKING AT IT SO WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THAT?
>> MR. TAYLOR, I WILL LOOK INTO IT RIGHT AWAY, SO WHEN I AM IN A POSITION TO COMMENT NEXT TUESDAY.
>> THANK YOU. >> LOOKING AT THAT FROM THE
DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT AS WELL. >> HAVING THE UNSCREENED FENCE RIGHT THERE, SEEING THE PILE OF DIRT .
>> UNDERSTAND THAT. I HAVE DRIVEN BY THE SITE
>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU, EVERYONE.
ANYTHING ELSE, DONE WITH THE ITEM? THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING
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>> FOR THE EXTENSIVE CONVERSATION, APPRECIATE IT.
>> MOVING ON. >> NEXT ITEM IS INFRASTRUCTURE STARTAC CITIZEN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE ANNUAL REPORT FOR
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>> WE HAVE SELENA GRIFFITH FROM THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT TO
GIVE US THE UPDATE TODAY. >> THIS GRIFFITH , WELCOME .
>> GOOD MORNING,, MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS.
I AM SELENA GRIFFITH, PROJECT ENGINEER, HERE TO PRESENT THE FORT PIERCE INFRASTRUCTURE SURTAX , CITIZEN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE , 2024 ANNUAL REPORT.
I AM LISTING OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND PROVIDING MY THANKS TO THEM FOR THEIR SUPPORT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF CHAIR AND DANIEL, REPRESENTING COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SO HE WILL NEED TO BE REPLACED. I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON NEEDS TO APPOINT A REPLACEMENT FOR CHARLES BRANDT. I THINK THAT IS ALL WE HAVE COMING UP.
>> THEY COULD PUT THEIR OWN PEOPLE IN HER KEEP THESE ON.
>> EXACTLY. WELL, -- YES. IN 2024, THE COMMITTEE DECIDED TO MEET QUARTERLY AS ACQUIRED IN RESOLUTION 19- 206. THE COMMITTEE MET FOUR TIMES IN 2024 AND PROVIDED UPDATES ON FINANCE AND BUDGETS AND DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT. THE COMMITTEE RESPECTFULLY SUBMITS THIS ANNUAL REPORT FOR YOUR ACCEPTANCE AND THE PURPOSE OF THE REPORT IS NOTED IN THE RESOLUTION, I WENT TOO FAR ABOUT THAT, SORRY ABOUT THAT. FORMING THE COMMITTEE IS TO ENSURE TRANSPARENCY AND PROVIDE THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY WITH THE ASSURANCE THAT FUNDS ARE BEING SPENT IN THE MANNER APPROVED BY THE VOTERS AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW . IN 2024, TOTAL AMOUNT OF SALES TAX OR SALES TAX REVENUE RECEIVED WAS NEARLY $3 MILLION. EXPENSES TOTALED NEARLY $3 MILLION.
BASED ON A CASH AND, CASH OUT ANALYSIS, THE BALANCE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE ACCOUNT IS JUST OVER $6 MILLION. HOWEVER, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THIS AMOUNT DOES NOT INCLUDE ENCUMBRANCES , INTEREST EARNED OR EXPENSES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN SUBMITTED FOR CALENDAR YEAR OR FOR THE REMAINDER OF CALENDAR YEAR 2024 AND BEGINNING OF 2025. I HAVE TO PRODUCE THIS REPORT, FROM EARLIER. THIS TABLE SHOWS THE AVERAGE MONTHLY INCOME THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE D.O.T. OR FROM THE STATE, I'M SORRY, SALES TAX REVENUE, AND IT GIVES US AN IDEA OF HOW WE CAN TRACK . THIS GIVES US AN IDEA SO YOU CAN SEE FROM 18 , 19, THE INCOME AVERAGES WILL THEN STEADILY INCREASE. THERE IS A SLIGHT DROP FROM 2022-23 TO 23 THREE-24 , I THINK THAT IS UPON THE INDICATION OF INFLATION AND SOME SPENDING WENT DOWN. THAT KIND OF LETS US KNOW WHAT WE COULD EXPECT TO RECEIVE ON A MONTHLY AVERAGE. THIS IS OUR MASTER PROJECT LIST . THIS IS THE ORIGINAL LIST WE CREATED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SALES TAX WE TRACKED THIS LIST, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE AGREED TO SPEND THE MONEY ON. IT IS OUR EYE ON FOR TRACKING REAL IMPROVEMENTS IN OUR CITY. AS YOU ARE AWARE THE FOCUS OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE SURTAX WAS BETTER ROADS, BITTER WATER QUALITY, AND OR SIDEWALKS. SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE SURTAX THE CITY HAS RESURFACED APPROXIMATELY 12.5 MILES OF ROADWAYS. WE ARE CURRENTLY COORDINATING 2025 STREET RESURFACING WITH FPUA. WE HAVE COMPLETED ABOUT 11 MILES OF FULL ROADWAY RECONSTRUCTION. WITH ANOTHER TWO MILES CURRENTLY IN CONSTRUCTION, BUT NEARLY COMPLETE. THAT IS A TOTAL OF NEARLY 23 MILES OF BETTER ROADS.
WE HAVE THE ROADWAY RECONSTRUCTION, IMPROVES HER ADDING SIDEWALKS TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS. NEBRASKA AVENUE
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SIDEWALK PROJECT WILL ADD ANOTHER 0.4 MILES OF NEW SIDEWALK. WE HOPE TO BEGIN OR GET APPROVAL TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION IN LATE FALL OF THIS YEAR. WE'RE GETTING READY TO SUBMIT A CONSTRUCTIBILITY SUBMITTAL TO F.THIS WEEK. STAFF ANTICIPATES REQUESTING ADDITIONAL TRANSPORTATION AND ALTERNATIVE GRANT FUNDS FOR MORE OF -- WERE SIDEWALKS AND PARTICULARLY NEBRASKA AVENUE, BECAUSE I THINK WE WANTED NORTH AND SOUTH LAWN WOULD CIRCLE SO WE LOOK FOR TO PURCHASE PAID IN THAT. THERE ARE OTHER F D.O.T. AND FEDERAL HIGHWAY THINGS WE COULD LOOK INTO. MOST OF THEM ARE FOR SAFETY, BUT IF WE COULD TIE ANY PROJECTS TO A SAFETY DECISION, THAT WILL HELP US EXPEND SOME ADDITIONAL SALES TAX FUNDS. SO WE HAVE A CLEANER RIVERS, GEORGIA AVENUE BASIN AND OF COURSE WE'RE DOING MORE SIDEWALKS, BUT I SHOULD'VE ADDED MORE PICTURES, BUT I KIND OF RAN OUT OF TIME AND I AM SORRY, BUT WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT OF THE COMMISSION AND LOOK FORWARD TO SOME OF THE CHANGES WE COULD ACCOMPLISH IN 2025 .>> HOW MANY YEARS ARE WE INTO THIS ? AND HOW MANY MORE YEARS OF THIS SURTAX IT WILL BE 2027, I THINK THAT IS THE LESSER, BUT MAYBE 2028. HAVE TO VOTE FOR IT AGAIN IN 2028.
>> ON THE 2028 BALLOT, IT WILL BE THE RENEWAL OF THE SURTAX?
>> CORRECT AND SOME PLANNING GOING ON RIGHT NOW FOR THAT.
>> ALL RIGHT. JUST INCREDIBLE TO ME HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO DO ONE MILE OF ROADWAY. JUST INCREDIBLE. WE HAVE DONE A LOT, BUT STILL 23 MILES, HOW MANY MORE MILES TO WE HAVE IN THE TOTAL CITY? I DON'T KNOW, NOT PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT A LOT MORE THAN THAT, BUT I DO NOT KNOW.
>> WE HAVE A LOT MORE NEED OF SIDEWALKS TOO.
>> WE HAVE A LOT OF ROADWAY NEEDS . THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IS NOT ALONE IN THIS. THERE WERE RESURFACING NEEDS, EXTREMELY OLD, SIMPLY DID NOT HAVE THAT --
>> THE RECESSION, WE DID NOT DO ANYTHING ALL OF THOSE YEARS THAT WE DID NOT HAVE ANY MONEY. I THINK WE HAD $600,000 TO MAINTAIN ROADS , DURING THE RECESSION.
>> EXACTLY, SO LITTLE BEHIND ON SOME THE STUFF WE SHOULD'VE BEEN DOING BACK IN 2008, 2009. SO WE ARE TRYING TO CATCH UP ON THAT . IN SOME CASES, THOSE ROADS NEED TO BE CONSTRUCTED, NOW, SO THAT CHANGES THE COST AND WHAT WE ARE DOING. WE ARE DOING AS BEST AS WE CAN, STILL LOOKING AT THE OLD WORLD, TARGETING THOSE OLDEST, WORST CONDITION ROADWAYS, MAKING SURE THOSE ARE THE NEXT ONES UP FOR RESURFACING, BUT WE HAVE A LIMIT OR BUDGET EVERY YEAR FOR THE AMOUNT OF RESURFACING.
>> I KNOW SO FOR THE NEXT GO AROUND, IN 2028, WE WILL HAVE A NEW LIST OF PRIORITIES, BECAUSE WHAT WE DID WAS WHEN WE ASKED THE CITIZENS TO APPROVE THIS, WE SAID THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO AND WE ACTUALLY HAD A LIST OF WHAT WE ARE GOING TO
SPEAKERS ] >> THE MASTER LIST.
>> MASTER LIST, SO FOR THEN YOU GO AROUND WE WILL HAVE A NEW
MASTER LIST? >> WE WILL BE TARGETED, YEAH, ASKED, I'M SURE, TO CREATE A NEW MASTER LIST.
>> THE VOTERS KNOW YOU HAVE PROMISED , PROMISE BEFORE AND DELIVERED BEFORE, BUT NOW WE WILL ALSO PROMISE AGAIN AND HOPEFULLY -- YOU CAN THANK THE COMMISSION, I THANKED THE COMMISSION, BUT I THANK THE VOTERS TOO FOR VOTING AND
TRUSTING US. >> OBVIOUSLY IT IS COMMISSION SUPPORT, BUT THIS WAS A VOTER REFERENDUM.
>> I KNOW. >> NOT TRYING TO DIMINISH WHAT
YOU'VE DONE. >> WE WERE ALL FOR IT. ANY
OTHER QUESTIONS? >> WHILE DEPLOYED . GREAT
PROGRAM. >> PEOPLE WERE CRYING OUT IN THE CITY FOR BETTER ROADS. AND STILL ARE .
>> RIGHT. >> YES SOUGHT THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT. A COUPLE OF THINGS, I SAW IT WAS ZERO, PART OF AVENUE D, ZERO COMPLETED, BUT DO WE HAVE A START DATE?
>> I AM NOT SURE, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK, BUT THERE IS A PORTION OF AVENUE D THAT IS WITH THE DESIGN COMPLETE. IT SAID ZERO COMPLETE, BECAUSE WE ARE IN CONSTRUCTION SO I AM TRYING TO GET D.O.T., BECAUSE WE RECEIVED
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A GRANT. >> CORRECT, BUT I AM ASKING --
>> SO I COULD GET TO CONSTRUCTION.
>> CORRECT. >> THAT HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS
FOR A LITTLE WHILE. >> I HAD TO BRING IT UP, BECAUSE I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. FOR THE CONSTRUCTION, AND ANOTHER THING, WHEN D.O.T. COMES AND SAYS LET'S DO IT, GET THE WORD OUT TO THE RESIDENTS TO RESIDENTS ON AVENUE D, THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE THRUWAY ON FORT PIERCE, BUT ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I WANTED TO DO, TALKING ABOUT THE NEW LIST AND OUR LIST, BUT ON YOUR REPORT, 13 STREET PROJECT, UNDERFUNDED. THAT WAS, BECAUSE I THINK THE
>> ASKED FOR THE MONEY OF. HE VETOED IT ?
>> HE VETOED IT, YEAH. WANT TO PUT IT OUT THERE, BUT WE DID NOT FIND IT, BECAUSE THAT IS HOW THEY WOULD READ IT, PEOPLE
SEAKERS ] >> WE HAVE IT IN THE NEW LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES FOR THIS YEAR.
>> ASKING FOR IT . >> WE GOT IT AGAIN AND IF FOR SOME REASON WE DO NOT GET IT, MY QUESTION IS, IF WE DO NOT GET IT BY -- NOT DONE BY 2028 -- WHICH I HOPE IT IS -- CAN WE ADD THAT TO THE NEW LIST? OR WE CANNOT ASK IF WE HAVE IT ON THIS LIST -- ADDED TO THIS LIST?
>> I BELIEVE YOU COULD AT ANYTHING WANT TO THE NEW LIST.
>> WE KNOW IT IS ONE OF THE PRIORITIES .
>> I MEAN, 13TH STREET, NO MATTER, MAYOR, YOU SAY HOW MUCH IT COST TO DO OUT A MILD, BUT IF WE GET MONEY FROM THESE GRANTS, WE NEED A PROJECT -- DO NOT CARE WHERE YOU START ON
13TH STREET, FIND A SPOT. >> GO NORTH OR SOUTH.
>> THE ENGINEER IS LAUGHING, BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL DRIVEN 13TH STREET AND IF THAT IS NOT ONE OF THE MAJOR FAIRWAYS FROM -- EVEN IF WE START BY MCCARTY AND HELPING THOSE KIDS OUT, NORTH, SAL, GETTING IT DONE SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHOEVER READ THIS, FUNDED, LOOK AT THE CITY DOOR, THEY WILL NOT PUT THE MONEY HERE, WAS NOT US. CALL TALLAHASSEE, RIGHT? I WILL NOT CALL DANNY, LET HIM KNOW, COME BACK TO 13TH STREET, BECAUSE WE NEED THIS MONEY. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS
OUT THERE SO THANK YOU. >> IN THE MEANTIME IT SLOWS
>> I WISH. >> NOT REALLY, BUT NOBODY DOES . THEY SPEED THEN WANT TO WRITE A LETTER SAYING THEIR CAR IS TORN UP. WE WILL NOT GO THERE.
>> THANK YOU . >> EXCUSE ME FOR INTERRUPTING, BUT THERE HAS BEEN A REQUEST FOR RESTRIPING AT 13TH , IS
THAT IN THE PLAN? >> I'M SORRY, BUT I AM NOT AWARE OF THAT. IT IS POSSIBLE IT IS JUST UNDER OR WE DO HAVE A RESTRIPING ANNUAL SERVICES ABILITY.
>> IF YOU FIND OUT , I HAVE SOME DRIVERS, SENIOR CITIZEN DRIVERS WHO ARE VERY INTERESTED IN RESTRIPING OF 13TH STREET.
>> OTHER FUNDS ARE THERE ALSO THAT I AM POKING INTO TO SEE IF
WE HAVE SOMETHING FOR THAT . >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS
MATTER? >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR ?
>> JUST A BUDGET QUESTION. PRIOR TO THE SURTAX BEEN IMPLEMENTED, WITH A REGULAR ROAD PAVING BUDGET .
>> I COULD TELL YOU THAT I CAME IN AFTER THE SURTAX WAS PASSED.
WHAT ONE SPECIFIC WIDGET LOOK LIKE, BUT I AM ASSUMING --
>> JUST WONDERING IN THIS POOL OF MONEY, STILL BUDGETING IN THE GENERAL FUND FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS OR IS THIS WHAT REPLACE THE ITEM? DOES ANYBODY HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT WAS NOT
MR. ANDREWS CAN COME FORWARD. >> JUST A QUESTION . JUST WONDERING IF WE ARE STILL PUTTING MONEY TOWARDS THAT OR IF USING IT IN THE SAME PROJECT LIST?
>> IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY TO KNOW IT.
>> HELLO, IN THE PAST , WE WENT THROUGH A BUNCH OF LEAN YEARS WHERE WE ABSOLUTELY HAD ZERO BUDGET FOR RESURFACING. FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS, IT HAS BEEN STRICTLY THE SURTAX THAT HAS BEEN DOING THIS RESURFACING. WE HAVE BEEN LIMITED TO THAT, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE BEEN INCREASING IT EVERY YEAR. WE STARTED OFF WITH, I THINK, $750,000 WHEN WE FIRST GOT THE
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SURTAX, BUT NOW WE'RE UP TO 1 MILLION THIS YEAR.>> 1 MILLION , I BELIEVE. >> STILL INCREASING, BUT WE ARE
STILL MAKING PROGRESS . >> THANK YOU.
>> ANYTHING ELSE? >> THANK YOU, JACK.
>> THANK YOU. >> ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS TOPIC?
[9. Consent Agenda]
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> MOVING ON.
>> NEXT ITEM IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.
>> I DO NOT THINK ANYBODY WILL PULL ANYTHING, BUT I WANT TO
MOTION PLEASE. >> MOVED TO APPROVE.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION 2ND, CALL ROLL CALL
[a. Resolution 25-R07 Appointing James Crist to the Board of Adjustment as Commissioner Taylor's appointee. ]
>> NEXT ITEM IS RESOLUTION NUMBER 25 , APPROVAL FOR
APPOINTMENTS. >> MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> ALL THE ROLL CALL PLEASE. >>
[b. Resolution 25-R08 Appointing Levi Lovell to the Keep Fort Pierce Beautiful Advisory Board as Commissioner Taylor's appointee. ]
>> NEXT IS RESOLUTION 25-R08, A PPOINTING L EVI LOVELL TO THE K EEP FORT PIE RCE BEAUTIFUL ADVISORY BOARD AS COMMISSIONER
TAYLOR'S APPOIN TEE. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, COMMISSIONER TAYLOR WAS WELL MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> ALL THE ROLL CALL PLEASE. >>
[c. Resolution 25-R09 Appointing Luke Croghan to the Sunrise Theater Advisory Board as Commissioner Taylor's appointee. ]
>> RESOLUTION 25-R09, APPOINTIN G L UKE CROGHAN TO THE SUNRISE THEA TER ADVISORY BOARD AS COMMISSIONER TAYLOR'S APPOINTEE . PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> MOTION TO LABOR SO MOTION TO APPROVE.
[12. City Commission Boards and Committees Updates]
>> NEXT ITEM IS CITY COMMISSION BOARDS AND COMMITTEE UPDATES.
>> A, WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST ?
>> I WILL GO FIRST. >> NOTHING TO REPORT.
>> THANK YOU. >> ALL MY MEETINGS HAVE BEEN CANCELED, NO QUORUM OR WHATEVER THE CASE WOULD BE SO WAITING FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF MEETINGS TO FIRE UP .
>> MR. GAINES? >> SAME HERE, MADAM MAYOR.
THERE WAS A LUNCHEON -- I DID NOT RCP, BUT WE DID NEW OFFICERS FOR THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
>> LOCAL GOVERNANCE? >> YES, WAITING TO GO BACK TO THOSE MEETINGS, BECAUSE WE ARE EXPECTED TO BE MORE VOCAL ESPECIALLY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, BECAUSE OF THE
>> OTHER THAN THAT ALL I WOULD WANT TO SAY IS TO THE PUBLIC, REMEMBER THAT THERE IS MLK CELEBRATION GOING ON NOW , THROUGHOUT THE CITY. TONIGHT AT 6:00 P.M. UNTIL 6: 30, THERE WILL BE A PEACEFUL MARCH FROM THE LINCOLN THEATER TO, WHAT IS IT, FRIENDSHIP BAPTIST CHURCH THEN FROM 6:30 UNTIL 8:30 THE NAACP IS HAVING THEIR ANNUAL EVENT AT FRIENDSHIP BAPTIST. IF YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING, COME OUT AND WALK WITH US AND I WILL BE THERE, I HAVE DONE THAT FOR THE LAST FOUR, FIVE YEARS, LONG WALK SO DO NOT TRY TO BE CUTE SO GET SOME COMFORTABLE
>> DO NOT TRY TO BE CUTE, BECAUSE YOU NEED SOFT BOTTOMS
ON FOR SHOES. >> ALSO THE ASPHALT REPAIRS.
>> RIGHT, SO OTHER THAN THAT I JUST LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING EVERYBODY AT THE CELEBRATION .
>> THE PARADE >> THE PARADE, BUT WE WILL SEE
EACH OTHER FOR THE PARADE. >> WE HAVE THE THURSDAY
MEETING. >> LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT ALSO. THE PAST WEEKEND EVENT , THOSE WERE GREAT , THOSE EVENTS. AT THE SYMPOSIUM, WE HAD THE SPELLING BE AND I KNOW I'M FORGETTING SOMETHING, BUT I WAS AT THE SPELLING BEE AND THE YOUNG MAN SPOKE AND HE SAID HIS ABCS, IMPRESSIVE. LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE ANYBODY PARTICIPATING WITH US.
>> JUST TO INTERJECT SOMETHING, THE LAST TWO YEARS I COMPLETELY ENJOYED THE PARADE. PHENOMENAL EVENT. THIS YEAR UNFORTUNATELY I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE IT, BECAUSE MY NIECE IS GETTING MARRIED OUT OF TOWN, SUNDAY. SUNDAY BEFORE THE MONDAY SO I WILL BE TURNING INTO TOWN MONDAY MORNING SO DOUBTFUL THAT
>> I GOT YOU. >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR?
>> FIRSTLY I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE THE PARADE EITHER.
>> I WILL THROW YOUR OR MY HAT UP FOR YOU ALSO, BECAUSE WE
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WILL BE THERE. >> NOTHING TO REPORT. I HAVE TWO FIRST COMMITTEE MEETINGS THIS WEEK SO TPO ON WEDNESDAY AND DC RPC ON FRIDAY. FIRST COMMITTEE MEETINGS , I WILL
HAVE A REPORT NEXT WEEK. >> WHENEVER THE NEXT MEETING
>> WEEKLY, I HAD THE FM IT MEETING , BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE CALIFORNIA FIRES ARE GOING TO AFFECT INSURANCE EVERYWHERE AND SO IT WILL INFECT OUR INSURANCE JUST LIKE HURRICANES HERE AFFECT INSURANCE EVERYWHERE, IT WILL HEAR SO IF YOU THINK INSURANCE IS BAD NOW, LOOK OUT .
>> RIGHT . >> FPA, WE HEARD FROM THEM AND TALKED ABOUT THEM TODAY AND TREASURE COAST LEAGUE OF CITIES MEETS ON WEDNESDAY, TALKING ABOUT LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES AND ADVOCACY. THE FIRED DISTRICT MEETS ON WEDNESDAY TOO, BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN THE FIRE DISTRICT PACKET. THEY SEND THE PACKET THEN CANNOT OPEN IT, BUT OTHER MEMBERS ARE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH IT TOO SO WE ARE TRYING TO WORK THAT OUT. HAVE TO GET SOME OTHER WAY OF TRANSMITTING THE PACKET. CANNOT EVEN TELL YOU WHAT IS ON THE AGENDA. WITHOUT, COMMISSIONER?
>> I AM GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP THE FIRES IN CALIFORNIA AND INSURANCE. I JUST WANT TO SAY, TO THE TO TO THE FORT PIERCE, EVERYBODY IS DOING SOMETHING IN THEIR LIVES, BUT IF YOU FIND A LEGITIMATE LINK TO HELP THOSE FAMILIES , THE FIREFIGHTER FAMILIES, RISKING THEIR LIVES, FIGHTING THESE FIRES, LET'S DO SO. DO NOTHING THAT YOUR FIVE DOLLARS, $10, $20 WILL NOT HELP, BECAUSE THEY NEED ALL THE HELP THEY CAN GET. SENDING PRAYERS, COLLEAGUES, FRIENDS, OUT IN CALIFORNIA, BECAUSE I CAN ONLY IMAGINEA CITY COMMISSION , COMING BACK TO A MEETING TO DEAL WITH ALL OF THAT. WE SEE THE PICTURES, ANYTHING YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING THROUGH, JUST IMAGINE WHAT WE SEE ON TV SO EVERYBODY SEND PRAYERS AND TO STOP.
>> RIGHT, STOP AND THINK, WORKING MANY DAYS TO TRY TO DO THIS AND THEY HAVE A WEATHER AGAINST THEM. OKAY, IF THERE IS
SPEAKERS ] >> MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT.
SPEAKERS ] >> NO FPR MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT, BUT WE HAVE ONE THURSDAY.
>> 4:00 P.M. >> NOTHING ELSE, WE WILL BE ADJOURNING THE MEETING AND TURNING OUT THE LIGHT
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.