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>> WE ARE GOOD TO GO. >> I LIKE TO GO THIS MEETING TO ORDER. THIS IS TO SAY, JERRY 21, 2025. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE OPENING PRAYER BY PASTOR ANDREW BROWN WITH FULL GOSPEL TABERNACLE OF DELIVERANCE , BUT COMMISSIONER ARNOLD GAINES HAS
SOMETHING TO SAY. >> FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT DON'T KNOW, PASTOR HAS BEEN REALLY SICK THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, AND TO SEE HIM WALKING UP AND COMING OUT TO GIVE A PRAYER FOR THE CITY, I APPRECIATE THAT.
THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SAY POINT
>> PLEASE COME FORWARD, PASTOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. WE WILL STAND AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF
ALLEGIANCE. >> IT IS AN HONOR JUST TO BE ABLE TO STAND AFTER TWO HEART SURGERIES AND QUADRUPLE BYPASS, BUT GOD IS STILL GOOD.
PRAY BECAUSE I'M A PREACHER. FATHER, IN THE NAME OF JESUS, WE BLESS YOU JUST FOR BEING GOD. WE THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO BE ON THIS EARTH. GOD, WE PRAISE YOU.
STATIC ] WE PRAY THAT YOU TOUCH THE HEARTS OF THOSE LOOKING OVER OUR CITY AND COUNTY TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS RUN ACCORDING TO THE WILL. WE PRAY FOR THE COMMISSIONERS. GOD, I PRAY, LORD, FOR THAT MAYOR, THAT YOU GIVE THEM THE WAY THAT THEY SHOULD TAKE TRIG02 POINT I PRAY, GOD, THE PROTECTION OF GOD BE UPON NOT ONLY THIS MEETING, BUT THE CITY.
INAUDIBLE - STATIC ] LET IT BE DONE ACCORDING TO THE WILL OF GOD, THE GOD OF PEACE. IN JESUS' NAME, WE PRAY. AND
>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
>> CALLED THE ROLL, PLEASE. >> MAYOR HUDSON. COMMISSIONER
[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
>> THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE GENERALLY 26TH MEETING. PASTOR KENNETH JOHNSON THERE'S
A MOTION AND A SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR POINT
[a. The Battle of Loxahatchee Proclamation ]
>> YES MA'AM. >> NEXT DISPARATE COMMISSIONS.
THE FIRST SUMMATION IS THE BATTLE OF LOXAHATCHEE PROCLAMATION.
OF FLORIDA AND FREE BLACK MILITIA WERE ORDERED TO VACATE THEIR LANDS ACCORDING TO THE TREATY OF MOUNTIE CREEK 1823, THE INDIAN REMOVAL ACT OF 1830, AND THE TREATY OF PAYNE'S LANDING 1832; AND WHEREAS, IN 1835, BLACK SEMINOLE LEADERS PREPARED FOR WAR AGAINST THE ARMY BY RECRUITING ENSLAVED PEOPLE FROM PLANTATIONS ALONG ST. AUGUSTINE'S EAST COAST TO RESIST REMOVAL; AND WHEREAS, ON NEW YEAR'S DAY IN 1838, A REGIMENT OF SOLDIERS WORKED ON THE WEST BANK OF THE INDIAN RIVER, CLEARING A SITE FOR THEIR NEW FORT AND CONSTRUCTING A LOG HOUSE FOR SHELTER AND PROTECTION. ON JANUARY 2ND, THE NEW WILDERNESS OUTPOST BECAME OPERATIONAL. FORT PIERCE HONORS COLONEL BENJAMIN KENDRICK PIERCE, A LIEUTENANT DURING THE SECOND SEMINOLE WAR; AND WHEREAS, ON JANUARY 14, 1838, MAJOR GENERAL THOMAS S. JESSUP, COMMANDER OF ALL U.S. FORCES IN FLORIDA, DESIGNATED FORT PIERCE AS THE HEADQUARTERS IN THE SOUTH WHILE ADVANCING TOWARD JUPITER IN PURSUIT OF THE SEMINOLES; AND WHEREAS, FROM 1835 TO 1842, SEMINOLES AND AFRICAN AMERICANS FOUGHT ALONGSIDE EACH OTHER AGAINST INAUDIBLE - STATIC ] AMERICAN TROOPS WHO ATTEMPTED TO REMOVE THEM FROM THEIR HOMELAND WHILE DEFENDING THEIR TERRITORIES.
WHEREAS, NO PEACE TREATY WAS EVER SIGNED, AND COLONEL WILLIAM JENNINGS WORTH DECLARED THE WAR OVER ON AUGUST 14, 1842; AND WHEREAS, TODAY, THE SEMINOLES REMAIN UNCONQUERED 187 YEARS LATER, AS A RESULT OF THE ARMY LEAVING THE TREASURE COAST AREA OF FLORIDA WITH NO PEACE TREATY SIGNED.
>> NOW, THEREFORE, I, LINDA HUDSON RECOGNIZE THE BATTLE OF
LOXAHATCHEE POINT >> WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW
WORDS? >> I'LL JUST SAY FEW POINT I WILL MAKE IT THREE MINUTES.
INAUDIBLE - STATIC ] >> LAST WEEK AS I WAS WATCHING
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THE CITY COMMISSIONER, ONE OF OUR ILLUSTRIOUS CONSTITUENTS STEPPED UP AND SAID, CHRIS EINSTEIN, SHE SAID THAT FT.PIERCE IS NOT A DESTINATION CITY. SHE IS RIGHT, BUT IT SHOULD BE. IT SHOULD BE, BECAUSE WERE THE COMMANDER, I THE COMMANDMENT GOVERNOR OF NEW HAMPSHIRE. HIS BROTHER IS MORE WELL-KNOWN THAN HE IS. HIS BROTHER IS -- HIS BROTHER WAS FRANKLIN PIERCE, BUT YET, WE LIVE IN THIS EXCEPTIONAL PLACE THAT SHOULD BE A DESTINATION CITY WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE CITY, MY FAMILY'S HOMETOWN OF ST. AUGUSTINE. IT IS A DESTINATION PLACE. I DO HOPE THAT SHOULD FORT PIERCE BECOME A DESTINATION PLACE, THAT IT'S NOT OVERRUN WITH TOURISTS, AS ST. AUGUSTINE IS. I HOPE WHOEVER IS CEO OF THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY AS THEY ARE INTERVIEWING, AND AS THEY ARE POSITIONING THEMSELVES, I HOPE THEY TAKE HEED TO OUR EXCEPTIONAL AMERICAN HISTORY STARTING HERE, AT FORT PIERCE.
IF WE THINK ABOUT IT, AFTER THE HONEST ADAMS ACT OF 1860 -- AFTER ST. JOHN'S AND ESCAMBIA COUNTY WERE ESTABLISHED ON THE FIRST DOSE AS THE FIRST COUNTIES IN FLORIDA JULY 1ST, 1821, THE NEXT COUNTY WAS MOSQUITO COAST WHICH INCLUDED THE TREASURE COAST AND AFTER THAT, LIEUTENANT COLONEL PIERCE WAS SENT HERE BY THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT TO CHASE FREE BLACKS AND NATIVE AMERICANS.
THE OLD PARK AND I THOUGHT ABOUT THE PRESENCE OF THE UNITED STATES MILITARY AND LIEUTENANT COLONEL PIERCE ON THAT SHINY SPOT AT THE HILL AT OLD FT. PIERCE PARK. I WANT TO ENCOURAGE OUR YOUNGSTERS TO BE INSPIRED BY OUR EXCEPTIONAL -- EXCEPTIONAL -- AMERICAN HISTORY AND REALIZE THAT IF IT WASN'T FOR EUROPEANS, NATIVES, AND AFRICANS, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THIS EXCEPTIONAL TAPESTRY OF AMERICA. THANK YOU AND GOD
BLESS YOU. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. >> THANK YOU FOR THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE LOXAHATCHEE COMMISSION FOR BEING HERE, AS
WELL. >> I GOT SO WOUND UP, I FORGOT TO THINK MY OWN BOARD FOR COMING. SO, I WOULD LIKE TO PERSONALLY THANK MY BOARD FOR DRIVING UP FROM JUPITER. THEY KNOW I GET EXCITED ABOUT OUR EXCEPTIONAL AMERICAN HISTORY, AS WE ALL SHOULD BE EXCITED ABOUT OUR EXCEPTIONAL AMERICAN
[b. National Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetists Week]
HISTORY POINT THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND COMMISSION.>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
>> THE NEXT PROCLAMATION IS THAT NATIONAL CERTIFIED REGISTERED NURSE AND IS THE EASIEST WEEK.
>> WHEREAS CERTIFIED REGISTERED NURSE ANESTHETISTS (CRNAS) ARE ADVANCED PRACTICE REGISTERED NURSES, PROVIDING ANESTHESIA CARE TO PATIENTS IN THE UNITED STATES FOR MORE THAN 150 YEARS, CRNAS ARE AMONG THE NATION'S MOST TRUSTED PROFESSIONALS; AND WHEREAS, LEGISLATION PASSED BY CONGRESS IN 1986 MADE NURSE ANESTHETISTS/ ANESTHESIOLOGIST THE FIRST NURSING SPECIALTY TO BE ACCORDED DIRECT REIMBURSEMENT RIGHTS BY MEDICARE; AND WHEREAS, CRNAS ARE THE PRIMARY ANESTHESIA PROVIDERS IN RURAL COMMUNITIES AND CONTINUE TO BE THE PRIMARY PROVIDERS OF ANESTHESIA CARE TO U.S. MILITARY PERSONNEL; AND WHEREAS, CRNAS PRACTICE IN EVERY SETTING IN WHICH ANESTHESIA IS DELIVERED - FROM TRADITIONAL HOSPITAL SURGICAL SUITES AND OBSTETRICAL DELIVERY ROOMS TO CRITICAL ACCESS HOSPITALS; AND AMBULATORY SURGICAL CENTERS TO THE OFFICES OF DENTISTS, PODIATRISTS, OPHTHALMOLOGISTS, PAIN MANAGEMENT SPECIALISTS AND ARE QUALIFIED TO MAKE INDEPENDENT JUDGMENTS REGARDING ALL ASPECTS OF ANESTHESIA CARE BASED ON THEIR EDUCATION, TRAINING AND LICENSURE; AND WHEREAS, CRNAS ARE TRUSTED ANESTHESIA EXPERTS, CARING FOR PATIENTS SAFELY AND COMPASSIONATELY, DELIVERING SPECIALIZED, COST-EFFECTIVE CARE TO ALL PATIENTS - FROM NEWBORNS TO SENIORS - FOR EVERY TYPE OF PROCEDURE IN ALL TYPES OF FACILITIES; AND WHEREAS, CRNAS' EXPERIENCE IN CRITICAL CARE NURSING IN ADDITION TO ANESTHESIA CARE, PROVIDES THE TRAINING AND EDUCATION TO ADDRESS THE UNIQUE HEALTHCARE CHALLENGES OF SOME OF OUR SICKEST PATIENTS, INCLUDING VETERANS. NOW, THEREFORE, I, LINDA HUDSON, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JANUARY 19-25, 2025: NATIONAL CRNA WEEK IN THE
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CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND ARE PROUD TO RECOGNIZE AND HONOR THE COUNTLESS CONTRIBUTIONS MADE ON BEHALF OF HEALTH ANDWELL-BEING. >> CONGRATULATIONS.
>> THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MAYOR HUDSON AND THE REST OF THE COMMISSION FOR THIS AMAZING PROCLAMATION. I'M ATE RECENTLY RETIRED CRNA . I'M ACCOMPANIED THIS EVENING BY MY WIFE, SANDY, WHO IS ALSO RECENTLY RETIRED, AND I'M NOT ALLOWED TO TELL YOU HOW MANY YEARS SHE HAS SERVICE IN THE ANESTHETISIA COMMUNITY. IT IS AN HONOR TO ACCEPT THIS ON BEHALF OF THE CRNAS NATIONWIDE.
THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 135 IN THIS AREA THAT WE CALL HOME. WE ARE THE PROVIDERS BEHIND THE MASKS WHO FOR 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 355 DAYS A YEAR, WE PROVIDE SAFE ANESTHESIA DELIVERED IN ALL SITUATIONS AND ALL PLACES. IT IS TRULY AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. IT IS BROUGHT COMMISSIONS SUCH AS THIS ONE THAT ARE BEING ADOPTED ALL OVER THE NATION. IT ACKNOWLEDGES THE SERVICE, DEDICATION, AND SACRIFICE THAT WE MAKE TO OUR PROFESSION. SANDY AND I, ALONG WITH SO MANY OTHERS HAVE SPENT MANY SLEEPLESS NIGHTS CATCHING UP, KEEPING PEOPLE ALIVE INAUDIBLE ] THEIR BONES FIXED, THEIR APPENDAGES REMOVED -- WE HAVE MISSED NUMEROUS HOLIDAYS, BIRTHDAYS, SPORTING EVENTS, CONCERTS, RECITALS, AND THE LIST GOES ON. THIS IS NOT AN 8:00 TO 4:30 JOB. MOST IF NOT ALL OF YOU IN THIS ROOM HAVE HAD A DIRECT INVOLVEMENT WITH AN CRNA, OR AT LEAST SOMEONE IN YOUR LIFE HAS BEEN TOUCHED BY AN CRNA. MAYBE YOU RECOGNIZE THIS AND MAYBE YOU DON'T BECAUSE WE ARE THOSE PEOPLE THAT NOBODY RECOGNIZES POINT WE JUST DO OUR JOBS. THIS COMMISSION WILL BE SENT TO OUR OFFICE IN ALTAMONTE SPRINGS TO BE ON DISPLAY WITH NUMEROUS OTHER PROCLAMATIONS, AS THEY ARE BEING PASSED. I EXPRESS MY THANKS AND GRATITUDE TO YOU AND THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE. BEFORE I GO, I WANT TO SHARE A QUOTE FROM ONE OF OUR TEXTBOOKS. IT IS A BOOK THAT OFFERS GUIDANCE AND DIRECTIVES, WORDS THAT SHOULD BE USED BY ALL. THIS IS A QUOTE FROM THE FIRST EDITION. FIRST BOOK, SECOND CHAPTER. AND I QUOTE, GENESIS, CHAPTER 2, VERSE 21. AND CAUSED A DEEP SLEEP TO FALL UPON ADAM, AND HE SLEPT. I THINK YOU KNOW THE REST OF THE STORY. WE ARE BLESSED TO DO WHAT WE DO. WE HAVE AN AWESOME FOUNDER TO OUR PROFESSION. THANK YOU VERY
[8. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
MUCH. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO.
>> THE NEXT ITEM IS ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA AND
APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. >> MISS COX.
>> YES MA'AM. STAFF IS ASKING THAT WE PULL ITEM 12 G FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU AT A LATER DATE WITH THE CORRESPONDING AMENDMENT. IT'S GOING TO MAKE MORE US -- SINCE. WE ASK THAT THE THIRD AMENDMENT TO THE KINGS LANDING AGREEMENT TO BE PULLED. THE AGREEMENT DID NOT GET TO US IN TIME FOR IT TO BE REASONABLY CONSIDERED. WE WOULD LIKE FOR THAT TO BE PULLED AND THAT WILL COME BACK AT A LATER DATE. I WANT TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES THAT ARE HERE AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THEY ARE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES TONIGHT AND WE COULD DO THAT UNDER MISCELLNEOUS REPORTS.
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>> I THINK THAT IS ONLY FAIR. THEY TRAVELED HERE TO BE HERE, SO, WITH THOSE TWO CHANGES, UNLESS THERE ARE ANY CHANGES
POINT >> META-MAYOR, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. ARE WE TALKING INTRODUCTIONS OR ARE WE DOING PRESENTATIONS? WHAT IS THIS COMING BEFORE US UNDER
MISCELLANEOUS REPORTS? >> JUST GENERAL INTRODUCTIONS.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK THEM QUESTIONS, I THINK THEY WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER, BUT WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE IN A POSITION FOR YOU TO VOTE ON ANYTHING OR CONSIDER ANY AGREEMENTS OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE TONIGHT.
SPOKE OKAY. >> I AM GOOD, YES MA'AM.
>> THE PARTIES ARE EXPECTING -- AUDUBON AND LIVE OAK ARE EXPECTING TO ENTER INTO A PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT THAT HAS NOT YET BEEN PROVIDED TO US. FOR THE CONTRACT, SIMILAR TO WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE PHILLIES -- THE LIES -- THAT IS ALL BEING INCORPORATED INTO ANY CONSIDERATION FOR THE THIRD AMENDMENT. WE ARE WAITING FOR THAT DOCUMENT TO FINALIZE
THE THIRD AMENDMENT POINT >> SO, FROM WHAT I'M GATHERING, THIS IS JUST TIME. THERE IS NO ISSUE THAT HAS BECOME --
>> INSURMOUNTABLE. >> IN DISAGREEMENT.
>> IT IS GETTING ALL THE DOCUMENTS FINALIZE AND GETTING THE THIRD AMENDMENT FINALIZED IN A MANNER THAT CAN BE PRESENTED TO YOU WITH PROPER TIME FOR YOU TO REVIEW AND FOR IT TO BE PUBLISHED ON AN AGENDA. WE ARE NOT ENGAGED AS
OF YET? >> KURT. THE PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT, WE DO NOT HAVE -- THAT IS WITH THEM TO FINALIZE.
THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE INVOLVED WITH. THE TERMS OF, BUT WE NEED A COPY OF IT. PROVIDED TO US, ONCE IT IS
>> AND THE BASIC TENETS OF THE BALANCE OF THE THIRD AMENDMENT IS TO THE SUBSTITUTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM. CORRECT? THAT IS ONE OF THE PRIMARY FUNCTIONS OF THE THIRD AMENDMENT, AND WE ARE ALSO CLEANING UP THIS ISSUE ON THE SITE PLAN FINALIZATION.
>> YES SIR. I DID GO BACK AS TO THE SITE PLAN, I DID GO BACK TO WATCH THE MEETING WHERE THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN DETAIL, I THINK IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR IN THAT MEETING THAT THE TIMEFRAME THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE THE FINAL APPROVAL FROM THE SITE PLAN AMENDMENT AND IF YOU WATCH THAT AMENDMENT, THERE IS A LOT OF DISCUSSION THAT HAPPENS IT WHERE IT COMES DOWN TO ULTIMATELY IS THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE WORKING WITH STAFF INTERNALLY AS HE DID TO GET IT READY FOR SUBMISSION FOR FINAL ACTUAL APPROVAL. THAT I THINK HAS BEEN RESOLVED. RELATED TO YOUR -- WEATHER THE AGREEMENT AFFECTS THE THIRD AMENDMENT, I NEED TO SEE WHAT IT SAYS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TERMS WILL BE UNTIL IT IS EXECUTED, SO TO SPEAK AND THAT WOULD BE PREMATURE AS TO HOW IT WILL AFFECT THE THIRD AMENDMENT. SPREAD --
>> I WAS CAUTIONED ABOUT THIS AND LOST MEANING RELATIVE TO THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL PROCESS. DR. FREEMAN SPOKE AT LENGTH ABOUT THIS AND WHAT HIS CONCLUSION FOR COMING INTO THAT PROCESS FROM THE GET-GO -- AND AT THE TIME THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE THAT PROCESS, DUE TO THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS, NOT THE DEVELOPERS -- THIS IS ON THE CITY SIDE OF THE LEDGER. IT IS ENCAPSULATED IN THE SAME FRAMEWORK. THE CITY, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PLANNING BOARD BACK TO THE CITY COMMISSION, IF WE CAN SHRINK THIS DOWN BY A MONTH BY HAVING HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND A PLAYING BOARD IN THE SAME 30 DAY PERIOD, THAT WOULD BE A MONUMENTAL TASK IN ITSELF, BUT SOMETHING I THINK THAT WE SHOULD STRIVE TO DO. BUT THIS ISSUE -- TIMING -- IT IS NOT ON THE DEVELOPER SITE. AND I THINK THAT HAS BEEN UNFORTUNATELY MISSED IN THE DIALOGUE. THEY DIDN'T GATHER WHERE WE WERE GOING WITH THAT WHOLE CONVERSATION. SO I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, THIS IS NOT AUDUBON. THIS IS NOT LIVE OAK. THIS IS NONE OF THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM CAN DO ANYTHING TO SPEED UP THAT INTERNAL CITY PROCESS. IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT. SO WE CREATED IT SPREAD WE'VE GOT TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF IT AND WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT GETS RESOLVED AND IT SOUNDS TO ME, MISS HEDGES -- THEY ARE IN DISCUSSION WITH THE FOLKS AT
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THEIR POINT WILL NOT BECOME AN ISSUE. THE THIRD AMENDMENT. THANK YOU.THAT WAS ENOUGH. OKAY. LET'S GET IT DONE, GUYS. JUST GET IT
>> THAT IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR.
>> RIGHT. SO, DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE
AGENDA WITH THE CHANGES? >> SO MOVED.
>> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.
>> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. PASTOR KENNETH JOHNSON
[9. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING PUBLIC HEARINGS Any person who wishes to comment on an agenda item which is not under Public Hearings on the Agenda may be heard at this time and must sign up to speak in advance. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]
>> YES MA AM. NEXT ITEM IS PUBLIC COMMENT FOR AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING PUBLIC HEARINGS POINT
>> WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP. PLEASE COME FORWARD WHEN YOUR NEED IS CALLED. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND WIRING. -- WARNING.
>> I'M SPEAKING ON THE KINGS LANDING AGREEMENT. IT IS NICE TO SEE THAT THE KEY PLAYERS HAVE SHOWN UP TONIGHT, AND IT'S GREAT TO HEAR THEM, AND THIS IS NO DISRESPECT TO THEM.
AND DON'T GET ME WRONG. I'M NOT AGAINST THE PROJECT. I'M JUST AGAINST THE PROCESS, AND I'M GOING TO TABLE SOME OF MY COMMENTS FOR NOW, SINCE THIS IS NOT COMING TONIGHT. BUT THE PACKETS THAT I GAVE OUT TO YOU, AGAIN, THIS GOES BACK TO THE ENTIRE PROCESS, AND AUTOBAHN SHOULD NOT HAS BEEN AWARDED THE RFQ LET ALONE THE RFP OR BE AWARDED THE ENTIRE PROJECT.
WHEN THE BOARD OF ETHICS READS ARGUMENTS REGARDING THE MISHANDLING OF GREENS LANDING FROM THE GET-GO, IS THIS GOING TO GET ANY MESSIER? WE WANT THE HOTEL DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE AUTOBAHN. THEY SHOULD NOT BE PROFITING OFF OF OUR LOSSES, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PACKETS, THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT WERE DEVELOPED . IT STATES GENERAL CONDITIONS AND INSTRUCTIONS. THERE WERE FIVE PAGES OR FOUR PAGES THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE EXECUTED AND SIGNED, AND THERE ARE VERY STRICT RULES ON THAT, INCLUDING THE PROPOSAL, PROPOSAL ACKNOWLEDGMENT AND PROPOSAL ACKNOWLEDGMENT FORM.
APPARENTLY, THE PROPOSAL THAT THE CITY UPLOADED AFTER THE BIDS WERE OPEN DID NOT HAVE ANY OF THOSE PAGES SIGNED OR EXECUTED. SO THAT WAS A DISQUALIFICATION. ALSO, THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THE FORM NOT BEING SIGNED. WHAT HE SUBMITTED IS DEVELOPMENTS AND HIS BACKGROUND SPREAD THOSE APPARENTLY IS EASY FROM THE TIMELINES WERE NOT ACCURATE, EITHER. AND THEN THE FINANCIALS, HE WAS SUPPOSED TO PUT IN HIS FINANCIALS AND BACKING AND HE DID NOT. HE PUT IN WHAT HIS FINANCIAL BANKER WHO PUT THEIR PROJECTS WERE, THAT THEY HAD BACKED AND FINANCED. YOU'LL SEE WTLNA DID THE OUTSIDE REPORT. IT WAS INCLUDED AS PART OF THE AGREEMENT, STATING THAT A LOT OF THE PRO FORMA WAS NOT ACCURATE. THOSE NUMBERS WERE ESSENTIALLY MADE UP. SO AGAIN, WHY ARE WE AWARDING SOMEBODY THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISQUALIFIED WHEN WE SHOULD'VE BEEN AWARDING THIS TO SOMEONE LIKE VIRGIN TRAINS. THERE ACTUALLY A QUALIFIED DEVELOPER. SOMEWHERE IN HERE, SOMETHING IS GOING ON THAT SOMEHOW THE CITY OVERLOOKED EVERY ASPECT OF THIS, AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE AWARDED. WE NEED TO STAND UP, TAKE THE PROPERTY BACK, START AGAIN. MAYBE IS THE SAME PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPERS NOW. AUTOBAHN SHOULD
NOT BE INCLUDED. >> I JUST WANTED TO INCLUDE MY OPINION. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT SINCE 2022. 23 YEARS. I'VE
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INVESTED MY TIME AND HEART INTO THIS COMMUNITY. IT IS EVIDENT THAT WE DID IT WITH GOOD INTENTIONS TO HAVE A HOTEL, AND TO BRING THIS JOINT VENTURE WITH THE CITY WITH AUDUBON. IT HAS BEEN SIX YEARS OF STORIES AND DELAYS. I'M HAPPY WITH THE OTHER GENTLEMEN THAT ARE HERE. I WAS ONLY THAT THEY HAD BEEN INVOLVED SOONER. UNFORTUNATELY, WE CANNOT KEEP KICKING THIS BALD ON THE STREET. AT SOME POINT, WE HAVE TO CUT OUR LOSSES AND MOVE FORWARD. THEY CAN COME BACK IN THEMSELVES INDEPENDENTLY. I JUST THINK THAT WE ARE CONTINUING TO WASTE TIME. JUST LIKE WAS SHARED, THERE HAS BEEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN, EXCUSES AFTER EXCUSES. PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN THEIR DEPOSITS. THEY HAVEN'T HAD THEIR PROMISES MADE. WE HAVE TAKEN THE PROJECT APART AND A LOT DISBURSEMENT OF DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF THE PROPERTY. WE NEED TO SAY, IT'S OKAY. WE MADE A MISTAKE. WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES. WE JUST HAVE TO GO FORWARD AND ACCEPT THAT IT IS NOT A VIABLE DEVELOPER .AUDUBON, FROM THE START, SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SELECTED, AND WE NOW NEED TO CUT OUR LOSSES, MOVE FORWARD, AND SAY, OKAY, ENOUGH. THE PARTICIPANTS HAT ARE HERE NOW TODAY, THE NEW DEVELOPER THAT WANTS TO COME IN, FANTASTIC. MAYBE HE COULD BE THE PERFECT PERSON, BUT IT NEEDS TO COME WITH A
[10. MISCELLANEOUS REPORTS]
CLEAN SLATE, AND WE NEED TO GO FORWARD, ALL WITH A CLEANSLATE. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD
>> NEXT ITEM IS MISCELLANEOUS REPORTS.
>> WE HAVE MOVED THE ITEM OF LIVE OAK AND MAINSAIL, AND SO, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, WHO WOULD LIKE TO START, AND PLEASE COME FORWARD. AND BECAUSE YOU HAVE MADE THE TRIP AND YOU MADE THE EFFORT TO BE HERE, AND WE WANT TO BE FAIR , AND WE WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. YES OR POINT
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU ABOUT WHERE THIS PROJECT STANDS. IN RESPONSE THE CUSHIONS THAT WERE RAISED LAST MONDAY, I BELIEVE, WE HAVE REQUESTED MAINSAIL'S REPRESENTATIVE BE PRESENT. THAT IS MR. JOE COLLIER. WE HAVE THE DIRECTOR OF MARKETING. HERE SHE IS. WE ARE ALL HERE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, AS I ADVISE POINT AS I SAID EARLIER TODAY, WE DELIVER THE FRANCHISE APPLICATION. WE HAVE A STRUCTURAL ISSUE THAT IS UNDER REVIEW WITH THE COUNCIL. THERE ARE OTHER LAWYERS INVOLVED. THAT IS THE MECHANISM FOR ASSIGNING -- AUDUBON SIGNING ITS INTEREST TO LIVE OAK.
BASICALLY TO THE QUESTION RAISED BY COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, IT IS COMING IN TO REPLACE NOT ENDING UP WITH A PARTNERSHIP. WE ARE ENDING UP WITH AN ASSIGNMENT UNDER AN PSA. AUDUBON WILL HAVE A LIMITED ROLE AS A LIMITED PARTNER IN THE SITUATION. THE LEAD DEVELOPER WILL BE LIVE OAK. AND LIVE OAK IS HERE AND I'M SURE THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
THIS PROJECT, MOVING FORWARD, AND I ENVISION IT WILL HAVE THE PSA IN PLACE AND FULLY EXECUTED BY THE NEXT MEETING, AND WE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT YOU WOULD NEED THAT DOCUMENT TONIGHT TO PROCEED, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WOULD LIKE IT. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THAT FOR YOU AS SOON AS WE CAN. IT HAS BEEN UNDER REVIEW OVER THE WEEKEND, AND PEOPLE WERE WORKING ON IT, BUT I BELIEVE THERE'S BEEN A FULL AGREEMENT ON ALL THE TERMS. SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON BEHALF OF AUDUBON , BUT I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO INTRODUCE BILL BLAIR, THE PROJECT MANAGER, AND HE IS BEST SUITED TO ANSWER THE PARTICULARS ON WHERE WE ARE ON THE TIMELINE POINT
>> THANK YOU. WELCOME. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED COLLABORATION ON OUR EFFORTS HERE. I THOUGHT I WOULD START
TONIGHT >> GOODIES THAT YOUR NIGHT -- NAME FOR THE RECORD POINT
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TO BE HERE AND WANT TO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE AND MAKE OURSELVES AVAILABLE TO YOU AND ANSWER QUESTIONS AND HOPEFULLY SET THE STAGE FOR AN APPROVAL FOR OUR THIRD AMENDMENT AT THE THIRD MEETING .BY SAYING A FEW THINGS TO HAVE IT. THESE ARE THINGS I'M SURE YOU HAVE HEARD BEFORE. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO REITERATE MOVING FORWARD. SO, TO THE PSA, YES. THE FIRST ROUND OF THE PSA'S ARE UNDERWAY. THE RED LINES, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THE BUSINESS POINTS OF THE PSA ARE RELATIVELY SIMPLE. IT IS THE LEGALESE THAT GOES WITH IT -- AND YOU CAN APPRECIATE THIS, I'M SURE, COMMISSIONER GAINES, THAT NEED TO BE BUTTONED UP.
YOU KNOW, WE ARE WORKING THROUGH ALL OF THIS TO BE SURE ALL OF THOSE ARE ACCOUNTED FOR. SO, AGAIN, IT IS NOT IF. IT IS WHEN. MY HOPE, AGAIN, WOULD BE TO HAVE DISH I'M GOING TO SAY THIS. I WOULD LOVE TO SAY THAT WE CAN HAVE IT READY BY FRIDAY FOR THE FEBRUARY 3RD MEETING, BUT I THINK IT IS PROBABLY A CHALLENGE TO DO THAT, SO, WE ARE PROBABLY LOOKING AT THE MEETING FOLLOWING THAT. BUT WE'LL GET THERE. SO THE ATTORNEYS ARE AT IT. I THINK WE ARE ROUNDING THIRD BASE, SO BEAR WITH US AS WE GET THROUGH THAT PROCESS. TO REITERATE WHAT SCOTT SAID, WE DO HAVE SUBMITTED MARRIOTT FRANCHISE AGREEMENT.
MOMENTUM KEEPS GOING. WE ARE EXCITED. WE RECEIVED THE SCHEMATIC DESIGN OF THE NEW FIVE LEVEL GARAGE, PARKING GARAGE, SO AGAIN, THEY ARE STILL -- I SAY ROUNDING THIRD BASE ON THE FINER POINTS OF THE SITE PLAN SUBMITTAL TO THE CITY. WE HAVE OUR CIVIL SIT -- ENGINEER READY TO GIVE THE GREEN LIGHT. WE ARE HOPING THAT THAT WILL COME WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE NEXT MEETING WITH THE THIRD AMENDMENT. AND I THINK WITH THAT, IT LOOKS LIKE I HIT THE HIGH POINTS, SO I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I'M VERY PLEASED, AND VERY APPRECIATIVE OF JOE COLLIER, PRESIDENT AND OWNER OF MAINSAIL, AND PAUL BERTUZZI, PRESIDENT AND OWNER OF LIVE OAK. THIS IS OBVIOUSLY AN IMPORTANT PRIORITY FOR THEM. IT IS A PROJECT, AS I SAID, THAT WE ARE COLLABORATING ON HAND, EXCITED ABOUT THE DIRECTION IT IS HEADING. I KNOW THAT THE DALE -- DEAL HAS FATIGUE FROM THE YEARS IN THE PAST. AS I'VE SAID FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, I'VE TRIED TO PUT BLINDERS ON AND MOVE FORWARD, NOTWITHSTANDING THE HISTORY, AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE DONE THAT. AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE IN THAT REGARD. AND I THINK IF WE CONTINUE WITH THOSE BLINDERS, WHEREAS, I SAY AGAIN, FOR A THIRD TIME AROUND, WE ARE GOING TO GET THERE. SO WITH THAT, I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO START BY INTRODUCING JOE COLLIER, WITH MAINSAIL, AND WE CAN ADDRESS THE FRANCHISE APPLICATION AND QUITE FRANKLY, ANYTHING MARRIOTT HOTEL RELATED, SO, JOE, IF YOU WOULD.
>> HELLO. MY NAME IS JOE COLLIER. I TOOK THE TIME TO LISTEN TO AND WATCH THE VIDEO OF THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, CITY COMMISSION MEETING AND HAD A CHANCE TO HEAR. CERTAINLY, I COULD SENSE SOME OF THE SKEPTICISM.
INAUDIBLE ] THIS PROJECT HAS GONE ON FOR A WHILE. FOR ME, JUST SO YOU KNOW, I GREW UP OVER HERE ON THE EAST COAST. MY DAD WORKED HIS WAY UP THROUGH % THE RANKS OF FLORIDA POWER, FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE WAY TO THE TOP. I LIVED IN MIAMI, DELRAY BEACH, FT. LAUDERDALE, JUPITER. THIS WHOLE COAST HAS BEEN MY STOMPING GROUNDS. SO I HAVE A BIG OP -- AFFINITY FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. I SPENT TIME ON THE WATER AND IN BOATS.
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MARINAS ARE MY LIFE POINT I SPENT FIVE YEARS LIVING ON A BOAT IN A MARINA, SO, YOU KNOW. I LOVE THIS TOWN, AND I THINK WE HAVE A PROJECT THAT WE CAN DO HERE WITH YOU GUYS. IT HAD SOME WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE, BUT I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY KIND OF QUESTIONS, BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT THERE IS SOME CLARITY YOU NEED IN TERMS OF HOW THE MARRIOTT PROCESS WORKS.AND I THINK I CAN PUT YOUR MINDS AT EASE IN THAT REGARD. I THOUGHT THE PROCLAMATION UNIT EARLIER THERE'S THE ANESTHESIOLOGIST -- I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HANG OUT SO HE COULD ANESTHETIZE US ALL. THE OTHER COMMISSION WORKS, TOO. WE HAVE THE BATTLE OF KINGS LANDING.
>> I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
>> RIGHT, AND WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE. SO COMMISSIONER GAINES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO FIRST?
>> I THINK I STARTED THIS, SO I GUESS IT WAS ME THAT SAID, I NEED HIM HERE TO SPEAK, SO FIRST, THANK YOU FOR COMING.
AND, BASICALLY, MYSELF, I DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR IT FROM YOU. I WANTED TO HEAR FROM LIVE OAK. WHAT IS GOING ON WITH MARRIOTT? EXPLAIN TO MYSELF AND THE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT GETTING INTO ANY LEGALESE OR ANYTHING THAT WE CAN'T -- WHERE ARE WE? WHAT IS GOING ON? KEEP IT GENERAL FOR
EVERYBODY. >> WOULD YOU MIND MOVING THE MICROPHONE UP TOWARDS YOU? THERE YOU GO.
>> I'VE HAD THAT PROBLEM BEFORE POINT -- LET ME EXPLAIN SOMETHING ABOUT MARRIOTT. I WORKED FOR. FOR 15 YEARS. I KNOW THE INNER WORKINGS OF MARRIOTT. IT IS A POWERFUL BRAND. IF YOU RANK THE BRANDS, MARRIOTT IS AT THE TOP.
MARRIOTT IS A COMPANY. THEY DON'T OWN ANYTHING. THEY HAVE BECOME A FRANCHISE COMPANY. GUYS LIKE US, WE TAKE ALL THE RISKS. WE GUARANTEE THE LOANS. WE DO THE THINGS NECESSARY TO BE THE RAINMAKERS TO MAKE DEALS LIKE THIS WORK. AND WE PAY MARRIOTT EIGHT ROYALTY. SUBGRANT IS HAPPY TO TAKE THE CHECKS. I LOVE MY FRIENDS AT MARRIOTT. I BELIEVE KYLE, THE DEVELOPMENT GUY, HAS BEEN HERE FOR US. AND WE PAY MARRIOTT A ROYALTY. SUBGRANT IS HAPPY TO TAKE THE CHECKS. THAT'S NOT THE PROBLEM HERE. WE EXPANDED OUR AREA OF PROTECTION. THAT HAS BEEN DONE. AS THE SHIFTING SANDS OF THE PARTNERSHIP WERE OCCURRING, I COULDN'T SUBMIT A FINAL APPLICATION TO MARRIOTT BECAUSE THE FIRST QUESTION I WOULD ASK IS WHO IS IN THE MEMBERSHIP AND WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE SITE PLANS? WE HAD TO LET THAT SIMMER A LITTLE BIT, WHY BILL WAS GETTING INVOLVED, ET CETERA. WE ARE NOT THAT MR. DEVELOPER.
I'M THE HOTEL GUY. WE HAVE 14 HOTELS. WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING WHEN IT COMES TO RAISING THE FUNDS, CLOSING LOANS AND GETTING THESE TYPES OF DEALS DONE, BUT, JUST LIKE FT.
MEYERS, WHICH YOU HAVE SEEN, IN A TOWN LIKE FT. PIERCE, FT.
MYERS IS PROBABLY A LITTLE FURTHER ALONG. THEY NEEDED A HOTEL. THERE WERE NO FULL SERVICE HOTELS IN DOWNTOWN FT.
MYERS. I MEAN, I COULD POP UP A FAIRFIELD INN OR SOME LITTLE SMALL MOTEL SORT OF THING. I DON'T THINK THAT IS WHAT YOU GUYS WANT. THAT IS NOT WHO WE ARE. WE DON'T DO THOSE TYPE OF HOTELS. YOU GUYS WANT A FULL SERVICE HOTEL, SO WE COMMITTED TO DOING TRIBUTE HOTEL, WHICH IS IN THE STOCK BRAND COLLECTION FOR MARRIOTT. THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF HOTELS WE HAVE. ALL OF OUR HOTELS ARE TRIBUTE OR AUTOGRAPH COLLECTIONS. ALL OF MY BRANDS ARE IN THE MARRIOTT SYSTEM, SO, WE SUBMITTED THE FRANCHISE APP BECAUSE BILL HAS GOT THIS NEW PROGRAM NOW WITH LIVE OAK, AND THEY ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD
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ON THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT. THE WORST THING FOR ME OR ANYBODY TAKING THE RISK, THIS HOTEL WILL COST US 400 SOMETHING THOUSAND KEY. THERE'S A LOT OF RISK INVOLVED IN BUILDING A HOTEL LIKE THAT IN A TOWN LIKE FT. PIERCE. I DON'T WANT TO BE NAKED AT THE KINGS LANDING SITE IS THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN. I WANT TO BE PART OF THIS BIG PROJECT. A MARINA IS IMPORTANT TO ME. THE OTHER ELEMENTS OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BECOME A DESTINATION. AND JUST LIKE AT FT. MYERS, WHERE WE WERE THE CATALYST FOR MANY OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, I THINK -- I HAVE A LITTLE VIDEO THAT WE DID, A REFERRAL VIDEO WITH THE MAYOR OF FT. MYERS AT THE TIME, AND THEY CALCULATED EIGHT DEALS WERE DONE BECAUSE MAINSAIL TOOK THE RISK TO BUILD A LUMINARY HOTEL. THAT IS A $100 MILLION PROJECT. 30+ MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE CITY, AND THE CITY HAS TO GET THAT DEAL DONE. MORE THAN LIKELY, AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE FINISH LINE AND GET THIS THING WHERE WE ARE BREAKING GROUND AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A DEFINITIVE TIME -- AN EXACT TIME SCHEDULE, BECAUSE THERE ARE ALWAYS SOME SHIFTING SANDS WITH CONSTRUCTION -- I THINK THE BEST WAY TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY LIKE THIS IS TO KEEP YOU GUYS IN THE LOOP, SO YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON, AND YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE AS THE MILESTONES OCCUR ALONG THE WAY THAT WE ARE GETTING IT DONE. SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS POINT IN TERMS OF THE FRANCHISE APP, WE SUBMITTED THE FRANCHISE APP. I WOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT THAT. MARRIOTT -- THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHAT I ASKED THEM TO DO. WE WERE AWARDED DEVELOPER OF THE YEAR WITH MARRIOTT TWO YEARS AGO. THIS PAST YEAR, WE WERE AWARDED THE NUMBER ONE MANAGEMENT COMPANY IN THE AREA SYSTEM. WE ARE GOOD FRIENDS WITH THEM. IT IS A POWERFUL BRAND. WHAT YOU CARE ABOUT IS THE DEVELOPER, THE OPERATOR, AND THE MONEY BEHIND IT. THAT IS WHAT YOU CARE ABOUT.MARRIOTT IS GOING FOR THE RIGHT. I'M NOT TRYING TO LOWER THEIR RANKING IN THE WORLD, BUT THAT IS THE WAY THESE DEALS ARE DONE NOW. YEAH. MARRIOTT IS NOT WRITING ANY CHECKS, SO.
>> YOU GET IN EARLIER THIS TIME.
>> I JUST WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS OF THE APPLICATION IS IN. THAT IS JUST A FORMALITY, BASICALLY.
THERE'S A LOT OF TALK ABOUT RISK AND WE CAN GET THIS DONE.
WE SHOULD GET THIS DONE. HOW CONFIDENT ARE YOU IN THIS
HAPPENING? >> WE ARE STILL DOSE EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE HOTELS -- I THINK IF YOU SAW OUR PORTFOLIO, YOU'D SAY, THESE ARE NICE HOTELS. WE JUST OPENED A NEW TRIBUTE HOTEL WITH THE GUY THAT OWNS CHICK-FIL-A. ONE OF THE WEALTHIEST GUYS IN THE WORLD. WE OPENED A BEAUTIFUL TRIBUTE HOTEL AT HIS BIG MOVIE PRODUCTION IN FAYETTEVILLE, GEORGIA. I MEAN, FAYETTEVILLE, GEORGIA. EMON, THAT IS SOUTH OF ATLANTA, BUT IT IS A LITTLE, TINY TOWN. BUT HE BUILT A MOVIE WORLD THERE. WE OPENED A HOTEL THERE. I DON'T HAVE THE BANDWIDTH IN MY COMPANY TO SPEND, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE TON OF TIME ON A DEAL THAT WE DON'T THINK WE CAN SINK OUR TEETH INTO AND GET TEMPERED BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO CLOSE A CONSTRUCTION LOAN, WE WILL HAVE ALREADY SPENT PROBABLY A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS, AND ALL THE FINAL DESIGN COSTS BECAUSE I CANNOT CLOSE THE SENIOR CONSTRUCTION LOAN WITHOUT GUARANTEED MAX PRICE FROM THE CONTRACTOR, AND TO GET TO A GUARANTEED MAX PRICE FROM THE CONTRACTOR, I HAVE TO HAVE ALL OF MY CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS DONE. AND MARRIOTT PLACE ALONG WITH IT. THE BEST PART FOR YOU GUYS IS THAT THIS IS NOT A RED BOX MARRIOTT HOTEL WHERE THEY SAY, HERE ARE SOME DRAWINGS. HERE ARE THE SPECS. THIS IS THE BRANDING THAT WE WANT YOU TO FOLLOW. THE REASON WHY TRIBUTE WORKS REALLY WELL IS WE DESIGN THE THING WE WANT. WE GO THROUGH THE BRANDING PROCESS. IT IS NOT GOING TO BE CALLED THE FT. PIERCE TRIBUTE. THERE WILL BE A BRANDING PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH. WE ARE GOING TO SEND A TEAM OVER HERE TO FORT PIERCE. THEY WILL GO THROUGH THIS INTERESTING PROCESS WHERE THEY MEET WITH TOWN HISTORIANS AND LOCAL BUSINESSES AND LOCALS AND WE FIGURE OUT WHAT MAKES FORT PIERCE FORT PIERCE IF YOU
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DON'T MAKE IT AUTHENTIC, PEOPLE SNIFF THAT OUT AND YOU ARE PUTTING LIPSTICK ON A PIG AND IT'S NOT AN AUTHENTIC EXPERIENCE. THE SIZE OF THIS HOTEL AT 140 UNITS, IT IS NOT GOING TO WORK IF WE DON'T HAVE LOCAL FOLKS COMING TO EXPERIENCE THE HOTEL. WE HAD TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO COME TO OUR BARS AND RESTAURANTS BECAUSE IT IS NOT A 400 ROOM HOTEL. A 400 ROOM HOTEL HAS THESE REALLY BIG MARGINS AND THEY MAKE A BUNCH OF MONEY ON THESE ROOMS, BUT THIS TOWN JUST DOESN'T SUPPORT A 400 ROOM HOTEL. SO IF IT IS 140 GRAMS, WE HAVE TO SELL A LOT OF FOOD AND BEVERAGE IN OUR BARS AND RESTAURANTS IN THE HOTEL TO MAKE THAT PART OF THE REVENUE STRAIGHT FOR THE HOTEL, SO WE NEED THE LOCALS TO WANT TO COME THERE. IT NEEDS TO BE A DESTINATION. IT IS A LITTLE NOSTALGIC. FOR ME, THE WAY I VIEWED IS THE OLD SCHOOL HOTELS BACK IN THE DAY, THAT THE BANK, THE POST OFFICE, THE SHOESHINE STORE. THEY HAD ALL THIS COOL STUFF AND HOTELS WERE A PLACE OF COMMERCE. YOU GO TO THE LOBBY OF A HOTEL AND THERE WERE ALL KINDS OF THINGS GOING ON IN THERE POINT -- AND WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. WE HAVE TO NAME THE HOTEL BECAUSE THE BRANDING OF THE HOTEL DRIVES THE FINAL DESIGN. YOU CAN CALL THE HOTEL, YOU KNOW, THE BLAH BLAH BUT IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING THAT BELONGS IN MARGARITAVILLE. THAT DOESN'T GO TOGETHER. SO, I URGE YOU, IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE SO, TO LOOK AT THE FINISH -- FIT AND FINISH OF THE HOTELS WE TRY TO DO.THEY ARE NOT CHEAP, SO THAT IS WHY WE HAVE TO MITIGATE THE RISKS WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON.
SOME OF THE GOODIES THAT WE HAVE TO REAL IN FROM THE CITY TO MAKE THIS WORK, AND THAT IS HOW IT ALL COMES TOGETHER TO MAKE THE DEAL WORK. IN THIS CASE, GOOD PARTNERS THAT CAN PULL OFF THE REST OF THE KING'S LANDING DEAL BECAUSE AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE IT HOTEL AND BE SITTING ON THAT LOT OVER THERE BY MYSELF POINT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE IT ALL COME TOGETHER. OUR MARKETING TEAM HAS ALREADY BEEN OVER HERE BECAUSE BEING IN FLORIDA, BEING FROM OVER HERE, OPPORTUNITIES HAVE POPPED UP IN THIS MARKET PLACE. THIS IS A WHILE BACK BEFORE THE KING'S LANDING THING CAME TO US POINT WE'VE LOOKED AT THINGS IN VERO. WE HAVE THE PROJECT OVER AT VERO BEACH. THERE ARE LOTS OF HOTELS IN THE MARKET. THERE ARE ASSETS DOWN THERE. YOU WANT TO COMPLEMENT WHAT IS GOING ON. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL AUTOGRAPHS -- THEY ARE INTERCHANGEABLE. AUTOGRAPH IS WHAT MARRIOTT STARTED, AND THEN STARWOOD HOTELS WERE TRYING TO COMPETE WITH MARRIOTT AND THEY STARTED THE TRIBUTE COLLECTION.
MARRIOTT BOUGHT STARWOOD. THEY GOT TRIBUTE. THEY SAID, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH TRIBUTE? THEY'RE THE SAME AS AUTOGRAPH. VISIT, WE WILL GIVE YOU MORE FLEXIBILITY ON FOOD AND BEVERAGE. IT IS MARRIOTT'S WAY OF BEING ABLE TO TAKE A CORNER AND PUT A MARRIOTT OVER HERE AND A RESIDENCE OVER HERE AND AUTOGRAPH OVER HERE. MARRIOTT HAS 32 BRANDS THAT THEY WANT TO KEEP RUNNING. IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE WHAT HAPPENS AT FT. PIERCE BECAUSE THE MARKET IS NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT. WE HAVE TO BE LOOKING IN TOWN.
THIS HOTEL HAS TO BE THE OASIS IN A DESERT IN TERMS OF HOTEL, OTHERWISE, IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. THAT IS WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN, SO TRIBUTE IS A GREAT FLAG. THE HOTEL I'M THINKING, THE BAND DOWN IN WEST PALM BEACH, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO THAT HOTEL, THAT IS THE TYPE OF HOTEL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
THAT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MORE SUCCESSFUL HOTELS. IT IS IN DOWNTOWN WEST PALM. IT IS CALLED THE BEND. IT IS A CASE STUDY IN A VERY WELL DESIGNED AND A VERY SUCCESSFUL HOTEL. IT
IS WORTH THE TIME. >> HOW DOES THAT DESIGN PROCESS WITH THE BRANDING -- THIS IS ANOTHER QUESTION -- HOW DOES
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THAT AFFECT THE OVERALL CONSTRUCTION TIME?>> SOME OF THAT STUFF OVERLAPS. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE LESS SEXY THINGS LIKE DRAINAGE AND ALL THAT STUFF CAN BE ONGOING.
THERE IS SOME OVERLAP WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CHART THAT HAS THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE, THERE IS OVERLAP WITH ALL OF THAT, BUT WE LEAVE IT INTO THE DESIGN PROCESS, BUT WE CAN'T FULLY HAVE A FULL SET OF DESIGN DRAWINGS UNTIL WE HAVE BRANDED THIS HOTEL. YOU MAKE IT -- A MISTAKE IF YOU DON'T DO IT THAT WAY. THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO FIRST. ALL THOSE THINGS COST MONEY ALONG THE WAY. WE WILL BE A COUPLE OF MILLION
DOLLARS INTO THIS THING. >> IS THAT ONCE THE APPLICATION IS APPROVED YOU WILL BE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT?
>> YEAH. THE APPLICATION, BECAUSE THAT IS A RUBBER STAMP FOR ME. I MEAN, WE ALREADY -- WE ALREADY -- BECAUSE THAT MARRIOTT PROCESS WILL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. THEY HAVE A COMMITTEE. I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEIR NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING IS. WE'VE SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION. IT IS IN THEIR SYSTEM. IT GOES THROUGH THEIR GYRATIONS NOW. THEIR NEXT COMMITTEE WILL PROBABLY BE AND OF FEBRUARY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING TO ME. WE ALREADY HAVE A TERMS SHEET. WE HAVE AREA PROTECTIONS, SO.
>> MR. JOHNSON, YOU WANT TO GO NEXT?
>> SURE. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THE PROCESS. I HAVE STATED YOUR PRETTY IN FT.
MYERS. -- THAT OLD ECLECTIC LOOK AND HOW IT FEELS IS A PROCESS. IT WILL BE AN INTERESTING STORY. WE HAVE MANY TO TELL HERE IN FORT PIERCE. THAT'S GOING TO BE AN INTERESTING PROCESS. WE ARE AWARE OF THE BRAND, ET CETERA.
MY QUESTION TO YOU -- TWO QUESTIONS COME ACTUALLY. DID YOU OTHER -- BUILD THE OTHER MARRIOTT PROPERTY IN FAYETTEVILLE? DOWN THE STREET.
>> SO THE MARRIOTT TRIBUTE, THAT IS OUR HOTEL. THAT IS
OURS. >> WHERE THEY FILMED THE MARVEL MOVIES. YOU WANT IN THE BETTERMENTS OF THE PICTURE. WE HAVE SOME FUNNY STUFF IN THERE. BUT BACK TO FT. MYERS, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE OF THE WAY THE BRANDING SHOULD WORK, BECAUSE THAT'S A CLASSIC EXAMPLE -- WHEN WE MET WITH THE TOWN HISTORIANS IN FT. MYERS, THEY SAID, LISTEN, EVERYTHING IS NAMED EDISON. THERE IS THE EDISON COUNTRY CLUB. EDISON, EDISO, EDISON, EDISON. THERE WAS A FAMOUS BOOK CALLED UNCOMMON FRONTS. THOMAS EDISON, HENRY FORD, ROY FIRESTONE. THEY ALL USED TO SMOKE CIGARS AND SO, THAT IS WHERE WE CAME UP WITH THE LUMINARY HOTEL, BECAUSE OF THE LUMINARIES THAT CAME TO FT. MYERS, AND THERE WAS A FAMOUS LADY WHO WAS THE FIRST COCA-COLA BOTTLER. WE NAMED OUR RESTAURANT AFTER HER.
BRANDING IS A FUN PART OF THE BUSINESS. MARKETING GUYS GET TO HAVE ALL THE FUN. I'M GOING TO BANKS AND DOING ALL THE
TEDIOUS, WONDERFUL STUFF. >> SO TALK TO ME ABOUT THE BRANDS. I WENT TO THE HOTEL AND SAW WHAT WAS THERE. YOUR BRAND, AS FAR AS MEETING SPACE, WHERE IS THAT ON YOUR AGENDA OR HIERARCHY TO ENTERTAIN SMALL, MEDIUM SIZED GROUPS THAT WANT TO STAY THERE FOR THE WEEK AND HAVE A CONFERENCE OR HAVE SOME
TYPE OF -- >> WE HAVE A MEETING SPACE IN THE HOTEL. WE HAVE TO HAVE LEISURE. WE HAVE TO HAVE BUSINESS. WE HAVE HAVE GROUP. THOSE ARE THE MAIN CATEGORIES TO MAKE IT WORK. IN ORDER TO HAVE THE GROUP, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME LEVEL OF FUNCTIONAL SPACE. THEY HAVE A FEELING
CONVENTION CENTER. >> WE DON'T HAVE THAT HERE.
>> I'LL TELL YOU THIS. OUR TEAM, I THINK, CAN HELP ACTIVATE CERTAIN ELEMENTS OF THIS TOWN. KING'S LANDING WOULD BE PART OF IT. OTHER THINGS, ON THE WATERFRONT, WE HAVE TO HAVE ACTIVATION. WE NEED TO BRING PEOPLE DOWNTOWN.
WE NEED TO HAVE REASONS. WHEN CONVENTION PLANNER, WHEN A MEETING PLANNER COMES TO TOWN AND IS LOOKING, EVEN IF IT IS A SMALL PHARMACEUTICAL MEETING, 50 PEOPLE, THEY WANT TO HAVE A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN GO OUT. SO THE ACTIVATIONS HAPPENING
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DOWNTOWN, THEY ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO US. IT IS PART OF WHAT WE LOOK AT. YOU GUYS SEE IT ALL THE TIME. ON THE WAY IN, FURTHER OUT WEST, THERE ARE A LOT OF PLACES FOR LEASE, SO YOU NEED THESE KIND OF CATALYSTS TO HAVE BEEN. THAT IS WHAT MAKES ATOWN A TON POINT >> I'M THE TYPE OF COMMISSIONER THAT PLANS THOSE CONVENTIONS AND GOES TO THE CITY AND MOST OF THAT STUFF. I WILL BE LOOKING TO SEE HOW YOU FOR THAT IN. YOU HAVE A GREAT MEETING SPACE THERE THAT YOU HAVE TO BUILD INTO THE HOTEL. I WILL GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE FINAL PLANS, BUT EVERYTHING YOU DESCRIBED IS WHAT WE NEED. BUT WE ALSO NEED IS TO GET PEOPLE TO HAVE SOME ORGANIZATIONS LIKE PHARMACEUTICALS. I WAS A PART OF THOSE TEAMS. WE ALWAYS LOOKED FOR SPACE TO MEET. THERE ARE FRATERNITIES AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT SECTS AFTER THAT NEED TO MEET POINT BE WANT THAT IN
OUR DOWNTOWN TRICK TWO POINT >> WHERE DOES EVERYBODY GO NOW?
>> THEY DON'T. THEY STOP COMING HERE WHEN THE HOLIDAY INN WAS BLOWN DOWN IN THE HURRICANE IN THE LATE 2000'S.
SO WE HAVEN'T HAD IT. WE HAVE MISSED A WHOLE MARKET SEGMENT
OF OPPORTUNITY IN TRIG02. >> ARE THEY GOING DOWN THE
ROAD? >> THEY GO TO PALM BEACH, ORLANDO, TAMPA. FOR MEETINGS THAT CAN BE HOSTED AND SHOULD BE HOSTED IN TRIG02 POINT ORGANIZATIONS I'M PART OF, WE GO TO MELBOURNE DOES GO TO MELBOURNE FOR A MEETING. WE WANT THOSE MEETINGS IN TRIG02. AS A PART OF THAT MARKETING PART OF YOUR HOTEL, THOSE ARE GOOD PAYING CONSTITUENTS THAT WANT TO STAY DOWNTOWN AND HAVE A GOOD TIME.
>> I KEEP GETTING EXAMPLE OF WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, BECAUSE I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ALL. THE BOAT DEALER MEETINGS ARE BIG BUSINESS FOR HOTELS. WHOEVER IT IS. THEY BRING ALL THEIR DEALERS FROM ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY, AND THEN THEY NEED TO HAVE LIKE 15 SLIPS, AND THEY DO BOAT DEMONSTRATIONS. THEY WILL COME IN FOR A THREE OR FOUR DAY CONVENTION. THIS HOTEL AND THAT MARINA WOULD BE PERFECT FOR THAT. I KNOW THE EASTERN PART OF THE ARENA HAS BEEN REDONE. ONE OF THE PLANS FOR THE WESTERN PART OF THE MARINA, THE PART THAT IS CLOSEST TO KING'S LANDING, IS THAT ALSO GOING TO BE REDONE, LIKE THE EASTERN PART, THE DOCS, AND THE DOSE
>> I'M NOT GOING TO ANSWER THAT. WE HAVE STRATEGIC
MEETINGS STARTING THURSDAY. >> IT IS GOING TO BE EXPENDED.
INFORMATION TO YOU. >> THE PLANS ARE THAT THAT MARINA CAN CONTINUE TO BE A CITY-OWNED MUNICIPAL MARINA.
THE CITY OF FT. MYERS TURNED IT OVER. THEY SIGNED IT OVER.
THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND LIKE $50 MILLION ON THAT MARINA OVER
THERE IN FT. MYERS. >> SO MY QUESTION IS, MAYBE EVEN ANSWERED IT OR NOT, BUT THAT IS MY CONCERN AS I LOOK AT THIS. THE REAL QUESTION IS, YOU HAVE SEEN THE INITIAL KIND OF LAYOUT OF WHAT HAS BEEN, I GUESS, FLOATED AROUND. HOW MUCH CHANGE DO YOU SEE IN WHAT YOU ARE ENVISIONING FOR A HOTEL VERSUS WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN MAYBE FROM THE AUDUBON GROUP THAT
CAME HERE AND PROPOSED? >> MOST OF THE CHANGES, YOU KNOW, ARE GOING TO RELATE TO MORE PRAGMATIC THINGS LIKE WHERE WE ARE GOING TO PUT THE DUMPSTER, SO THAT IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE FRONT AND LOOK OF THE HOTEL. HOW ARE WE GOING TO SHARE AMENITIES BEFORE THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE OF THIS? THERE IS SENATOR THE -- SYNERGY THERE. HOW IS THE PARKING GOING TO WORK, ET CETERA? THE FACT THAT THE PROPERTY BEHIND OUR SITE THAT IS OWNED, THAT IS GOING TO BE IN THE CONSTRUCTION STANDPOINT. A LOT OF THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN THOUGHT THROUGH. I HAVE A GUY THAT WORKS FOR ME THAT IS THE GRINDER ON THOSE DETAILS. EVERY LITTLE DETAIL FROM THE CONSTRUCTION STANDPOINT. WE HAVE THOSE GUYS IN OUR SHOP THAT KNOW HOW TO DO ALL THAT POINT THEY MAKE SURE THAT WE BUILT THESE THINGS AND BUILD THEM WELL, AND OFF WE GO AT SOME POINT WITH THE GROUNDBREAKING POINT
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT POINT >> THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO EXPOUND ON THAT. THAT IS THE PART THAT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE HEARD, BUT WHEN I GOT ON THIS COMMISSION FIVE YEARS AGO, THE CRY FROM THE COMMUNITY, THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT I BELONG TO, WE HAVE LOST THE WHOLE ECONOMIC COMMERCE FROM OUR CITY AND
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COUNTY THAT IS GOING TO PALM BEACH, ORLANDO, OTHER AREAS, AND WE USED TO HAVE IT HERE, AND WE WANT IT BACK. AND THAT IS THE PROMISE POINT THAT IS WHAT THIS HOTEL IS ENVISIONING THAT. IT IS ALLOWING THE BOATING GROUP THAT IS HERE. WE HAVE AN EMERGING DEVELOPMENT HERE. I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, BUT I HAVE TO TEST IT SOMEWHERE. WE GET IT SOMEWHERE.WHY NOT FT. PIERCE? THANK YOU.
>> WE NEED THE LOCALS. WE WANT TO BE EMBRACED BY THE COMMUNITY, OTHERWISE, IT DOESN'T WORK. I HAVE A SENSE FOR WHAT IT TAKES TO GET THE CITY CRANKING AND GOING. IT'S TIME TO MOVE ONTO THE NEXT CHAPTER.
>> COMMISSIONER BRODRICK. >> HAVE A QUESTION. YOU TOUCHED ON IT EARLIER. THIS DEVELOPED HAS GONE THROUGH MULTIPLE DIFFERENT MANIFESTATIONS. THE FINANCING PACKAGE -- IS IT IN
PLACE? >> I CAN'T PUT MY FINANCING PACKAGE IN PLACE UNTIL ALL OF THE SACRAMENTS -- DOCUMENTS --
>> DEVELOPER 101, THE SCARIEST THING TO MOST DEVELOPERS IS HONESTLY THE PERMITTING PROCESS. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO BE RECEIVED IN THE CITY? IS IT GOING TO BE ONE OF THESE THINGS WHERE IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FROM A PERMITTING STANDPOINT? IT SEEMS LIKE THAT IS NOT THE CASE AT ALL HERE. OTHER TOWNS, IT IS NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE. YOU START, HOW IS THAT PERMITTING STREAMLINING AND HOW WILL THAT WORK? THAT IS EXPENSIVE FOR US AS MONEY IS BEING SPENT AND WE ARE WAITING TO GET THE HOTEL OPENED AND WE ARE BURNING EQUITY DOLLARS. THAT IS THE FIRST AND FOREMOST IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE. I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE ISSUE. YOU WANT TO HAVE THIS DEAL DONE. IN FAIRNESS, EVERYBODY SHOULD UNDERSTAND, THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOME FLUIDITY. IT IS SOMETHING WHERE WE HAVE TO MEET WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR OTHERS AND SAY, HEY, CAN WE DO THIS, CAN WE DO THAT? THAT IS WHERE THE COLLABORATION COMES FROM ALL YOUR PROFESSIONALS TO HELP GET IT DONE. YOU HAVE A PARTNER WITH A GOOD DEVELOPER. THERE IS NO REASON. HEADS IN BEDS. THAT'S MY BUSINESS. HEADS IN BEDS. IT IS HARD TO GET PAST THAT. ONCE THAT HAPPENS, YOU HAVE A REALLY NICE
GYM IN YOUR CITY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> I TOO HAVE BEEN A LUMINARY. I HAVE VISITED THE EDISON MUSEUM AFTER THAT. AND I UNDERSTAND THE TRIUMPH OF THE PEOPLE. WE HAVE LOTS OF HISTORY HERE. THAT IS SPECIAL TO ME, SO I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IN TERMS OF MAKING IT AUTHENTIC FOR TRIG02. WE HAVE THINGS THAT SAY FLORIDA AND IT SAYS FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA. SO, I APPRECIATE YOU MAKING THE TRIP HERE TONIGHT AND TELLING US HOW THIS PROCESS WORKS.
BECAUSE COMMISSIONER GAINES, I'M GLAD HE GOT HIS WISH.
>> HE IS A LAWYER, TOO. >> AND HE WILL GO THERE AGAIN.
>> GIVE US YOUR FRIENDLIEST HISTORY AND THAT CAN HELP US GO
THROUGH THAT PROCESS. >> WE KNOW SOME HISTORIANS,
YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> I CAN PULL THIS DOWN AGAIN.
>> THANK YOU, JOE. >> JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO TOUCH BASE ON. SOME THINGS THAT JOE SAID THAT RESONATED WITH ME. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO REITERATE THEM TO YOU. MUCH LIKE JOE AND MAINSAIL, WE WILL HAVE SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS INVESTED BEFORE THE CLOSING. IT IS TO JOE'S, THAT WE WOULD BE SPENDING TIME AND EFFORTS GOING THROUGH THIS
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PROCESS IF WE DIDN'T REALLY BELIEVE AND HAVE A HIGH LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE IN OUR ABILITY TO EXECUTE, SO AGAIN, AS PARTNERS, AND WE ARE PARTNERS, WE ARE BOTH COMMITTING SUBSTANTIAL DOLLARS UPFRONT, IN ANTICIPATION OF WHAT WE BELIEVE WILL BE A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT. THAT IS NUMBER ONE. SECONDLY, AS TO THE SCHEDULE, AND THE COMMENT THAT HE'S GOT A GRINDER ON HIS STAFF COME AND THE GRINDER'S NAME IS BRIAN.BRIAN AND I HAVE BECOME VERY GOOD FRIENDS. AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE MUCH LIKE I HAVE TRIED TO DO WITH THESE DISH WITH KEVIN AND ALL THE DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY, I HAVE TRIED TO BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER FROM THE VERY BEGINNING AND WALK THIS WALK TOGETHER SO THAT THERE ARE NO SURPRISES, EVERYONE IS HEARING THE SAME THINGS. IF THINGS COME UP, EVERYONE HEARS THE SAME ANSWER. SO IT HAS BEEN THAT PATH FOR ME, AS WELL POINT WITH MAINSAIL, WITH JOE, AND BRIAN, AND TO THE POINT ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT JOE MENTIONED, TO YOUR QUESTION AS TO THE SITE PLAN, AND WHAT KIND OF THINGS WERE TWEAKED THERE, % AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF TWEAKS THAT I HAVE ELABORATED ON IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, BUT ONE OF THEM WAS THE HOTEL PARCEL. WE HAVE ENLARGED THE HOTEL PARCEL TO ACCOMMODATE PARKING AT THE HOTEL. ALSO, TO JOE'S POINT, TO ENGAGE THE MORSE CREEK AND HOW WE CAN ACCESS THAT FOR NOT ONLY HOTEL RESIDENCE, -- RESIDENTS, BUT THE CONDO OWNERS, AND THERE WAS A STUDY THAT I RECEIVED THAT I PASSED ON TO MAINSAIL THAT DEMONSTRATES OR SHOWS A SCHEMATIC FOR WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THOSE THINGS ARE IN FACT BEING TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IN THE DESIGN, TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE AND MAKE THIS PROJECT THE BEST FOR EVERYBODY. THE SCHEDULE.
SOMETIME AGO, WHEN I WAS MEETING WITH JOE AND BRIAN AND PRIOR TO MY MEETINGS WITH THE CITY, I WANTED TO GET THEIR SCHEDULE. YOUR UNDERSTANDING WHAT IS GOING ON HERE IN FT.
PIERCE, BUT ON A TYPICAL PROJECT SCHEDULE HERE, YOU KNOW, GIVE ME YOUR PROJECTS, WHICH THEY DID. THEIR PROJECT SCHEDULE HAS BEEN BAKED INTO OUR PROJECT SCHEDULE, SO, TO APPEASE YOUR MINDS, THAT THERE IS NO DISCONNECT THERE, SO I'M TELLING YOU THAT THE PROJECT SCHEDULE STILL WORKS, IT IS INPUT IN THEIR PROJECT SCHEDULE AND THE CITY SCHEDULE AS IT RELATES TO WHEN THEY PLAN TO START CONSTRUCTION ON THE PROJECTOR, UTILITIES, AND SO FORTH. IT IS A PASSION OF BEING SURE WE HAVE ALL THOSE PIECES, AND THERE ARE MANY.
EVERYONE IS ON THE SAME PAGE MOVING FORWARD. LAST THING I WANT TO SAY, TO JOE'S POINT ABOUT THIS BEING A LOCAL HOTEL, WE ARE GOING TO NEED LOCAL SUPPORT. PART OF THE INTERACTION BETWEEN OUR CONDO OWNERS AND THE HOTEL IS THAT , WITH JOE AND BRENT, WE HAVE EXPANDED THEIR AMENITY AREA TO SOME EXTENT SO THAT OUR CONDO OWNERS CAN HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THOSE AMENITIES AT THE HOTEL, SO, IT IS GOING TO BE A VERY ENGAGING -- OUR CONDO OWNERS WILL EAT AT THE RESTAURANT AND BE AT THE OUTSIDE POOL AND BAR AND SO FAR IT IS EXCITING. WE ARE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE PAUL BERTUZZI.
>> WELCOME, MR. BERTUZZI POINT
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. JUST INTRODUCE MYSELF, I AM WITH LIVE OAK. WE'VE DONE NEARLY 9000 UNITS. OF CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT. WE HAVE BEEN VERY ACTIVE IN THE FLORIDA MARKET.
I'M BORN AND RAISED IN JACKSONVILLE, FLORIDA. I GREW UP AND PLAYED HERE ALL MY LIFE. AND I WANT TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT LOCAL COMMUNITIES WITHIN OUR MARKETS AND HELP SUPPORT FORT PIERCE, AS WELL. SO ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE,
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I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER IT. >> I DID GOOGLE YOU, SO I DID TO YOUR PROJECTS, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR BEING HERE.
>> ABSOLUTELY POINT >> AND YOU LOOK LIKE YOUR
PICTURE. >> THANK YOU. A LITTLE BIT
OLDER. >> THANK YOU AGAIN FOR TRAVELING DOWN. SO, YOU HAVE TAKEN A LOOK OF THIS SCOPE, OF THIS PROJECT. OBVIOUSLY, THERE IS SOME ASSUMPTION THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ASSUME THIS PROJECT. WHAT ARE YOU SEEING, HEARING, AND FEELING RIGHT NOW? WHAT YOU NEED TO SEE FROM THE COMMUNITY
THAT YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY? >> IN WORKING WITH BILL AND SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS AND I ALSO WATCHED THAT MEETING FROM LAST -- I GUESS IT TWO WEEKS AGO. REALLY, IT FEELS LIKE THE SUPPORT IS THERE TO GET THIS DONE. THE TIME IS NOW TO PUSH THIS FORWARD AND GET THIS ACROSS THE FINISH LINE, SO, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WORKING WITH THE CITY AND THE DIFFERENT PARTIES, WHETHER IT BE THE FIRE MARSHAL OR PUBLIC WORKS, AND REALLY JUST COMING TOGETHER TO EXECUTE ON THE PROJECT, OBVIOUSLY, THERE IS A LOT OF ELEMENTS THAT HAVE TO COME TOGETHER OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS AND THE SUPPORT OF THE CITY, IT IS GOING TO BE CRITICAL. SO.
>> ALL RIGHT. >> IT IS ONE THING TO READ YOUR NAME, BUT IT IS SOMETHING ELSE TO HAVE YOU GUYS TALK TO THE RESIDENTS OF FT. PIERCE. YOU ARE TALKING TO THE RESIDENTS OF FT. PIERCE. IT IS NOT SOMETHING THEY'RE HEARING SOMEBODY ELSE SAY. THAT IS WHY I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR ME TO ASK YOU GUYS TO COME SO PEOPLE COULD HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT. SOMEBODY ELSE SAYING WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. FOLLOWING UP ON SOMETHING COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SAID, THE RESIDENTS OF FT. PIERCE WANT THIS HOTEL. YOU HEARD SOME OF THE FRUSTRATIONS TONIGHT SITTING HERE. THEY WANT THE HOTEL. YOU HEARD COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SAY EARLIER ABOUT THE ORGANIZATIONS AND GROUPS AND EVERYTHING THAT WILL COME. WE NEED THE HOTEL BECAUSE I NEED MY DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES THAT'S BEEN PROMISED SIX YEARS, SEVEN YEARS, TO BE A PART OF THIS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS, WHEN WE BRING OUR MARKETING TEAM HERE, AND I KNOW WE ARE TALKING TO HISTORIANS -- PLEASE GO TALK TO THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS OWNERS WHO HAVE BEEN HERE, WHO HAVE SEEN THE TYPE OF CLIENTEE THAT ARE COMING IN, SO IT WILL GIVE YOU AN IDEA. I HATE THE OLD SAYING, BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME, BUT IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT FT. PIERCE, THE RADISSON THAT WAS TORN DOWN IN THE 2000'S OR WHATEVER IT WAS -- THE HOLIDAY INN. EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT IT. THAT WAS THE PLACE. THAT WAS BEFORE ANY CONVENTION. THAT WAS FOR THE STATE MEETINGS. THAT WAS, IF YOU THOUGHT HE WAS A BIG BALL OR, I'M TELLING YOU. I'M JUST BEING HONEST. I MEAN, THAT IS WHERE PEOPLE TOOK PARTIES, AND THAT'S WHERE WE WENT. WE PUT OUR MINDS TOGETHER TO GO HAVE A PARTY AFTER PROM AND AFTER HOMECOMING. THAT IS WHERE WE WENT.
TRYING TO BE GOOD BECAUSE I KNOW SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE, I
WON'T SHUT UP. >> THE NEED FOR THE HOTEL IS HERE. I LOVE THE IDEA HE SAID ABOUT -- I LOVE THE IDEA YOU SAID ABOUT THE MARINA AND THE WATER. WE KNOW WHAT -- WE ARE READY TO PUT THIS HOTEL HERE AND SEE YOUR VISION. SO I ASK FOR BOTH OF YOU GUYS TO BE HERE BECAUSE NOT TALKING TO ME , I CAN GO BACK AND READ AND IF PUSH COMES TO SHOVE, I'LL PICK UP THE PHONE AND BE LIKE, HEY, HOWEVER, I DON'T WANT THE CONVERSATION I HAVE WITH YOU TO BE BETWEEN ME AND YOU ARE BETWEEN ME AND YOU AND BILL. I WANTED TO BE OUTSIDE AROUND CAN HEAR IT.
GIVING YOUR VISION, AND ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS THAT
THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE, SO. >> GREAT. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
THIS HAS BEEN A LONG ROAD FOR US TO GET TO HOPEFULLY SOMETHING ACTUALLY HAPPENING OUT THERE. MAYBE TALK TO US A
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LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW YOU GOT INVOLVED. I KNOW BILL CAME TO WORK FOR YOU. IS THAT TYPICAL SITUATION WHERE YOU HIRE SOMEONE AND THEY BRING THIS PROJECT WITH A BUNCH OF BAGGAGE WITH THEM? I GET WHY YOU WANT A HIGHER BILL. THAT IS PRETTY OBVIOUS. BUT EXPLAIN TO US -- JUST ANECDOTALLY, EVEN, WHAT MADE YOU WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT?>> SO I STARTED WORKING WITH BILL ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO. WE HAVE BECOME VERY CLOSE WITH HARPER WHEN HE WAS WITH HARVARD. WE DEVELOPED A PROJECT IN A HISTORIC AREA OF JACKSONVILLE AND SEND MARCOS. WE WORKED TOGETHER VERY WELL.
AND WE HAD A PARTNERSHIP SO AS THEY WERE INTERESTED IN THE PROJECT, WE TALKED ABOUT THEM JOINING THE TEAM. I REALLY LIKED THE PROJECT AND THE OPPORTUNITY AND GOT INVOLVED WITH BILL AND THE UNDERWRITING OF IT, LOOKING THROUGH EVERYTHING. AS BILL WAS LOOKING TO TRANSITION, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, AND I JUMPED ON THE OPPORTUNITY, SIMILAR TO BRIAN AND COLLIER, BILL IS THE WORKHORSE WHEN IT COMES TO GETTING STUFF DONE AND SEEING THINGS THROUGH, SO. WE HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS, AS WELL AS OUR CONSTRUCTION DEPARTMENT, SO IT WAS ONE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO HIRE SOMEONE WHO DID HAVE A PROJECT THAT WE COULD GO TO WORK ON VERY QUICKLY. THERE WAS HISTORY WITH THE PROJECT THAT WE COULD STEP IN AND REALLY FILL THE TIME SPACE OF WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE AND THE EXECUTION, AND BRING SOME OF OUR SERVICES AND OUR COMMITMENTS TO IT, SO IT WAS THE RIGHT TIME AND THE RIGHT PROJECT, AND THE RIGHT OPPORTUNITY THAT WAS REALLY INTRIGUING TO US.
>> GOOD. >> REALLY QUICK, THIS IS AN IMPRESSIVE TEAM. YOU GUYS ARE HITTING ON ALL CYLINDERS. BILL, OUTSTANDING WORK ASSEMBLING THIS WHOLE CREW TO EXECUTE HERE. I COULDN'T BE HAPPIER. I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO KNOW BILL THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. THIS TEAM HAS THE HORSEPOWER TO GET THIS THING DONE. I'M 100% CONVINCED OF THAT. I WENT ON YOUR WEBSITE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. HOW MANY RESIDENTIAL UNITS HAVE YOU CONSTRUCTED?
>> NEARLY 9000. >> I WASN'T IMPRESSED WITH THAT .7 .5 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE SPACE. THAT GOT MY ATTENTION. THAT IS THE REAL DEAL.
OUTSTANDING WORK, BILL. KEEP AT IT. YOU'VE GOT ALL YOUR PIECES IN PLACE POINT JUST BE THE ORCHESTRA LEADER HERE AND KEEP
IT MOVING. >> WE ARE INTERESTED IN MOVING FORWARD AND NOT MOVING BACK, SO THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE TRIP
HERE. >> ABSOLUTELY. OUR PLEASURE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONS POSED. WE WILL BE BACK WITH A PSA. WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ON THE GROUND AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR YOUR WORK. >> JUST KEEP THE LAWYERS IN LINE.
YOU GET THE LAWYERS INVOLVED, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE
MORE TIME. >> I WILL PUSH THE CHAOS ALONG.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
[11. CONSENT AGENDA]
>> ALREADY. >> NEXT ITEM IS A CONSENT
AGENDA ITEM. >> IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO PULL? I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
>> I WILL PULL 11A. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE B, C, AND
>> SECOND. >> CALL ROLE, PLEASE. PASTOR
KENNETH JOHNSON >> YES MA AM. FORT PIERCE
[a. Approval of Security Camera System, Police Department, Securitas Electronic Security, Inc. Uniontown, OH, in the amount of $255,845.72. ]
>> YES MA AM. >> PULL THIS AGAIN BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT THE CONSENT AGENDA, YOU DON'T SEE WHAT WE ARE DOING AND THIS IS ANOTHER STEP THAT WE ARE DOING TO LISTEN TO THE CRIES OF THE COMMUNITY, AND THE CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY, SO THIS IS, AGAIN, WITH CAMERAS. THAT WE WERE PUTTING CAMERAS WHERE THEY ARE NEEDED, SO, JUST WANTED TO MAKE EVERYBODY READ IT. I WANT EVERYBODY TO HEAR ME SAY IT INSTEAD OF THEM GOING ON TO READ IT AND NOT READING IT.
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>> IMPROVING THE SECURITY OF OUR CITY.
>> RIGHT. >> WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT.
>> I AGREE. >> THIS IS FOR AROUND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE SUBSTATIONS.
>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?
>> I MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE 11A.
>> IS THERE A SECOND? >> CALL ROLE, PLEASE. PASTOR
[a. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 25-001 - Economic Development Ad Valorem Tax Exemption. SECOND READING]
KENNETH JOHNSON >> YES MA AM. CITY COMMISSION
>> YES MA AM. >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR.
>> YES MA AM. FORT PIERCE >> YES MA AM.
>> ORDINANCE 25-001. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA; PROVIDING FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AD VALOREM TAX EXEMPTION AS PROVIDED BY SECTION 3, ARTICLE VII, OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF
[b. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 25-002 - Review and approval of Voluntary Annexation by owner Frances Casner, to extend the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include one (1) parcel at 3302 Avenue B. The proposed City Future Land Use designation is Residential Low Density (RL) and Zoning classification of Single-family Moderate Density (R-3). Parcel ID: 2408-506-0002-000-5. FIRST READING]
FLORIDA; CREATING THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AD VALOREM TAX EXEMPTION REGULATIONS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE; ESTABLISHING AN EXEMPTION OF CERTAIN AD VALOREM TAXATION FOR CERTAIN NEW AND EXPANDING BUSINESS PROPERTIES; PROVIDING DEFINITIONS AND REQUIREMENTS; PROVIDING FOR PROCEDURES FOR APPLICATION FOR EXEMPTION; SPECIFYING DUTIES OF THE PROPERTY APPRAISER IN CONNECTION WITH SUCH PROPERTY; REQUIRING A WRITTEN TAX EXEMPTION AGREEMENT; PROVIDING FOR A SUNSET CLAUSE; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT HEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. FORT PIERCE>> YES MA AM. REPEALING ALL ORDINANCE IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS THE FIRST
READING. >> ALL RIGHT. WE BRING BEFORE YOU 32 EIGHT -- 240-8506 002 0005. THIS IS THE SITE LOCATION AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY. COMING IN AT .03 ACRES. STAFF HAS CONFIRMED THAT THE PROJECT 30 -- PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE CITY COMMISSION MUNICIPAL BOUNDARY. THE CURRENT VALUE OF THE PROPERTY IS 58,200 66.
HERE IS THE CITY BOUNDARY AND LIMITS OF YOU TO SHOW YOU PROPERTIES THAT ARE ANNEXED WITHIN THE CITY AND THE SURROUNDINGS THAT ARE NOT. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION OF ONE PARCEL AT 3203 AVENUE B. IT HAS A DESIGNATION OF COMMERCIAL ENTITIES AND IN CONSIDERATION OF COMMERCIAL, GENERAL POINT THE POST -- PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IS RESIDENTIAL RL. HERE IS A MAP SHOWING THE CURRENT EXISTING LADIES IN THE COUNTY. THERE WERE PROPERTIES ALIGNED ALONG THE SEAT -- STREET. THE EXISTING ZONING IN THE COUNTY IS SURROUNDED BY THE CITY
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ZONING. IT IS CHANGED TO R3. AT THE DECEMBER 9TH MEETING, THE PLANNING BOARD VOTED TO APPROVE THE ANNEXATION. STAFF RECOGNITION IS FOR CITY COMMISSION TO APPROVE THE ANNEXATION. ALTERNATE CONDITIONS WOULD BE TO GRANT APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS OR TWO, WRAP COMMAND -- RECOMMENDDISAPPROVAL. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK.
>> I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WHEN WE ARE ANNEXING IN THE CITY, WE NEED TO CORRELATE OUR CLOSEST ZONING CLASSIFICATION WITH THAT OF THE COUNTY THAT WE ARE ANNEXING TO MATCH AS CLOSELY AS POSSIBLE TO THEIR ZONING CLASSIFICATION.
>> THAT IS THE STARTING POINT. THAT IS THE STARTING POINT, HOWEVER, STAFF AND THE APPLICANT MAY SUGGEST OR
RECOMMEND -- >> I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH THE CONSULTATION BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE MOVING FORWARD WITH IT.
>> WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT. SHOULD COMMISSION EXCEPT THAT
POINT >> I THINK IT IS SURROUNDED BY R3 ZONING. THE R3 IS COMPATIBLE WITH WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON THERE. I GUESS WHAT YOU ARE INDICATING IS THE LOT ACROSS
THE STREET IS STILL COUNTING. >> THANK YOU.
>> ANY OTHER CUSHIONS FOR STAFF?
>> YOU HAVE A QUESTION. >> I ALSO HAD THAT QUESTION.
THAT FIRST SLIDE SAID THAT IS WHERE WE STARTED FROM COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO RESIDENTIAL. IS THERE CURRENTLY SOMETHING ON THE PROPERTY OR THE BUILDING?
>> THERE IS A HOME LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY.
>> THERE IS A HOME THERE BUT IT IS ZONED COMMERCIAL.
>> IN THE CITY, I MEAN IN THE COUNTY.
>> INTERESTING. >> THE APPLICANT THAT WANTS TO MOVE IS INTERESTED IN CHANGING TO AN APPROPRIATE ZONING BASED ON THE CURRENT USE OF THE PROPERTY.
>> ABSOLUTELY. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST OF IT, THIS IS ACTUALLY ALSO OWNED BY THE APPLICANT. SHE IS LOOKING TO COMBINE BOTH LOTS RIGHT NOW THAT IS BEING SERVICED BY THE COUNTY. THE VACANT LOT IS BEING SERVICED BY THE COMMITTEE.
>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
>> THANK YOU. I KNOW YOU ARE HERE FOR SNAILS, BUT FOR LISTENING AND BEING PATIENT. YOU ARE VERY PATIENT. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
>> I AM PROPERTY POINT MY HUSBAND'S GRANDFATHER GAVE HIM ENOUGH PROPERTY TO BUILD A GARAGE ON. WHEN HE PASSED, I WANTED TO PUT IT IN MY NAME. NOW, I AM PAYING HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION ON MY HOUSE, BUT I CANNOT GET IT ON MY GARAGE. SO I AM TRYING TO ENCAPSULATE IT UNTIL ONE, SO I CAN GET SERVICES FROM THE CITY, WHICH I CANNOT GET NOW. SO THAT'S ALL. THE STAFF HAS BEEN
JUST WONDERFUL. >> GREAT. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION.
>> META-MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> SECOND.. PASTOR KENNETH JOHNSON
>> YES MA AM. CITY COMMISSION >> YES MA AM. FORT PIERCE
[c. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 25-004 - An Ordinance amending the Code of Ordinances of the City at Chapter 121-Subdivisions, to amend the plat procedures. FIRST READING ]
>> YES MA AM. >> GET YOUR GARAGE TAKEN CARE OF.
>> NEXT IS ORDINANCE 25-004 >> AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE
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CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA, CHAPTER 121 ÷ SUBDIVISIONS TO AMEND THE PRELIMINARY PLAT PROCEDURES; PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR ANEFFECTIVE DATE. >> EVERY TIME WE AMEND IT, WE ENCOUNTER A DIFFERENT PROBLEM. TO THE ONE WE THOUGHT WE WERE SOLVING IN THE FIRST PLACE. I THINK IT WAS PROBABLY FOUR MONTHS AGO NOW THAT WE MET AS A TEAM WITH THE COUNTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE TO FIGURE OUT A METHODOLOGY THAT WOULD ENABLE A DEVELOPER, IF THEY SHOULD CHOOSE, TO GET A PERSONAL IDENTIFICATION NUMBER FOR A PARCEL THAT HAD A PRELIMINARY PLAT ON IT, SO THEY COULD COMMENCE BUILDING OPERATIONS ON THEM. SO THIS IS INTENDED TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE FOUND AND ALLOW FOR THAT PROCESS THROUGH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE. WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT. IT IS THEIR INTERNAL PROCESS. BUT FROM WHAT WE HEARD, THIS IS A POTENTIAL SOLUTION TO THAT. I'M SAYING POTENTIAL. THEY CAN CHANGE IN ANY DIRECTION, BUT AT LEAST IN THIS RESPECT, WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE IN THE WAY OF A DEVELOPER GOING TO OUR BUILDING TO PROMPT AND THEN FEELING TO GET A
PERMIT. >> SO THIS IS BUSINESS FRIENDLY
AND CUSTOMER FRIENDLY. >> ABSOLUTELY.
>> QUESTIONS OF STAFF? QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, COME FORWARD POINT SEE NO MOVEMENT, I BRING IT BACK TO
COMMISSION. >> META-MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION
TO APPROVE POINT >> SECOND. PASTOR KENNETH
JOHNSON >> YES MA AM. PASTOR KENNETH
[d. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 25-005 - Amending the Code of Ordinances of the City of Fort Pierce Chapter 111, Article II, Section 111-151 Delegation of Review Authority to revise the Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) approval Matrix. - FIRST READING]
JOHNSON >> YES MA AM. FORT PIERCE
>> YES MA AM. >> NEXT ITEM IS 25 MINUTES 005, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE CHAPTER 111, ARTICLE II, SECTION 111-151 DELEGATION OF REVIEW AUTHORITY TO REVISE THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS (COA) APPROVAL MATRIX. . THIS IS THE FIRST READING.
>> MR. FREEMAN. >> I THINK I HAVE A SPELLING
MISTAKE THERE SOMEWHERE. >> YEAH. YOU DO.
>> I'VE GOT A LOT OF THINGS IN THERE, I THINK. THIS PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT ARE IN RESPONSE TO THE COMMISSION RAISING THE ISSUE OF THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATE APPROVAL MATRIX AND THE DELEGATED POWERS AVAILABLE TO STAFF IN RESPECT OF HISTORIC BUILDINGS. IN THE CITY. THE BACKGROUND TO THIS IS THAT NO BUILDING, STRUCTURE, IMPROVEMENT FEATURE OR SITE WITHIN THE CITY WHICH HAS BEEN DESIGNATED CAN HAVE ANY WORK DONE TO IT. ALMOST ANY WORK DONE TO IT WITHOUT GAINING A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FROM THE STAFF OR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD. AND THAT IS BROKEN UP INTO TWO PARTICULAR CATEGORIES. AND WE CATEGORIZE BUILDINGS WITHIN THE CITY'S HISTORIC DISTRICT AS BEING CONTRIBUTING, WHICH MEANS IT HAS THE ARCHITECTURAL QUALITIES OR SOME ASSOCIATION -- ARCHAEOLOGICAL VALUE. AND NOT CONTRIBUTING -- ONES WITH PROPERTIES THAT DON'T. SO WE START OFF WITH THOSE TWO CATEGORIES. AND THEN WE MOVED TO THE TABLE WHICH OUTLINED FOR APPLICANTS WHICH PROCESS AND WHICH PROCESS THEY WILL BE USING MOVING FORWARD. AND ONE OF MY FIRST VIEWS OF THIS IS ALWAYS ANY AMENDMENT THAT STAFF ARE PROPOSING HERE THERE'S CAN WE MAKE IT SIMPLER? CAN WE MAKE IT EASIER TO UNDERSTAND -- WHY ARE WE DOING IT A CERTAIN WAY? THERE IS NO EXCUSE IF SOMEBODY CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT WHEN WE CAN DO IT BETTER. SO, WE LOOKED AT THE EXISTING TABLE IN OUR STARTING POINT WAS, WELL, IF THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE TABLE, WHAT ARE THEY SEEING? THEY ARE SEEING FOUR COLUMNS. OF OPTIONS THIS YEAR. IN EFFECT, WE ONLY HAVE TWO CATEGORIES WITH THE SAME OPTION IN EACH. THE FIRST OPTION WOULD BE TO SIMPLIFY THAT INTO TWO COLUMNS AND WE
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CAN DO THAT BY SEPARATING THE CONTRIBUTING AND NOT CONTRIBUTING BUT HAVING A SIMPLER MATRIX OUTLINING VERY SIMPLY IF IT IS A BOARD APPROVAL OR IF IT IS STAFF APPROVAL. THEN WE ENTERED INTO OUR OWN INTERNAL DISCUSSION ABOUT, WHAT WAS HOLDING PEOPLE UP IN TERMS OF GETTING THEIR PERMITS? WHAT WAS THAT TIME-CONSUMING PIECE TO THIS? WERE THESE DECISIONS APPROPRIATE TO BE TAKEN TO THE PRESERVATION BOARD? WAS THERE A BENEFIT TO HAVING AN APPLICANT COME IN TO SPEND MONEY, TIME, AND STRESS, IN FRONT OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD WITH SOME OF THESE OPTIONS THAT WE HAD IN PLACE, AND FROM EXPERIENCE AND LOOKING AT WHAT WOULD COME THROUGH TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD, WE ANALYZED WHICH OF THESE TYPE OF APPLICATIONS TOOK THE LEAST AMOUNT OF TIME IN FRONT OF THE BOARD, CAUSED THE LEAST AMOUNT OF AGGRAVATION AND CAUSED THE MOST DELAY TO APPLICANTS INCOMING IN DEALING WITH CITY STAFF. SO WE LOOK AT THE AMENDED MATRIX. WE WANT TO MAKE IT MORE CLEAR. YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE EVERYTHING HERE IS A STAFF DECISION.IT IS REVIEWED BY THE HISTORIC RESERVATION OFFICER AS TO THE APPROPRIATENESS. IT IS ISSUED ADMINISTRATIVE CERTIFICATE, AS IT IS ESSENTIALLY AN S CATEGORY. IT THEN GOES TO THE BOARD OF -- THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE USES, WE IDENTIFY SEVERAL USES THAT REALLY WEREN'T APPROPRIATE, WE THOUGHT, TO BE TAKEN TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD. SO WE LOOKED AT TRADITIONS, CONTRIBUTING HOMES, BUT, IF THOSE ADDITIONS WERE NOT VISIBLE FROM THE STREET AND LESS THAN 20% OF THE EXISTING BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE, THEY WERE USUALLY OUTSIDE THE VIEW WITH VERY LOW IMPACT. SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THOSE ARE DEALT WITH BY STAFF, RATHER THAN TAKING IT TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND SO FORTH. THE THE ADDITION OF THE AWNING. IT IS NOT ON THE FRONT OF THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING. WHY WOULD THAT NEED TO GO TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD? WITH BOTH CIRCUMSTANCES, CONTRIBUTING OR NOT CONTRIBUTING. THOSE ARE ON THIS PART OF THE PAGE, MATRIX. THE RECOMMENDATION WE ARE MAKING IS TO MOVE THOSE CATEGORIES FROM BOARD, TO STAFF. CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. ALL THESE APPROVALS, ALL OF THE STAFF LEVEL APPROVALS ARE IMPORTANT TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD. THAT IS DONE BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION ORDER AND THE BULK OF THOSE -- AND ENSURE WE ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING. IF THERE IS ANY DIFFICULTY ABOUT ANYTHING RAISED, YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT TO BE ADJUSTED.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY CUSHIONS ABOUT THOSE OR --
>> I HAVE A COMMENT. HAVING SERVED ON THAT BOARD FOR QUITE A LONG TIME, I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO SHIFT SOME OF THIS TO STAFF TO SPEED UP THE PROCESS AND KEEP PEOPLE IN THE DEVELOPMENT FLOW ON THE REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. I HAVE DONE THAT FLIPSIDE OF THIS ON PROJECTS WE HAVE WHERE WE SUBMIT APPLICATIONS AND WHEN STAFF IS INVOLVED, THE TURNAROUNDS ARE ALMOST INSTANTANEOUS. THAT IS A HUGE ADVANTAGE TO ORDERING MATERIALS AND ALL OF THAT. I SUPPORT THIS INITIATIVE COMPLETELY, TO STREAMLINE THIS AND INTERNALIZE MORE OF IT. AND IT MAKES THE STAFF JOB EASIER. THEY'RE NOT MAKING PRESENTATIONS ABOUT AN AWNING THAT IS OVER SOME BUT HIS BACK PATIO OR SOMETHING. SO NOW, THEY CAN GET IT OUT THE DOOR AND REPORTED TO THE BOARD. I THINK THESE MODIFICATIONS ARE
OVERDUE AND VERY SOUND. >> WE HAVE MORE.
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>> OKAY. >> THESE ARE THE AREAS THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE BEST TO MOVE TO STAFF ACTION. WE WANT TO KEEP THAT GOING TO THE BOARD IF IT IS A CONTRIBUTING BUILDING.
BUT THEN, ALLOW A NON-CONTRIBUTING AMENDMENT TO THE OPENING IN THE MAIN FACADE FOR THE GARAGE DOOR. I GOES TO STAFF LEVEL. THE OPENINGS ON THE SECONDARY FACADE, WE RECOMMEND PUTTING BOTH OF THOSE INTO A STAFF REVIEW LEVEL.
APPROVAL OR DENIAL. ONE CHANGE WE HAVE ON HERE. NEW CONSTRUCTION. A POOL AND A YARD. MOVING THAT FROM BOARD APPROVAL TO STAFF APPROVAL ON A CONTRIBUTING HISTORIC BUILDING.
AND THERE, FROM SITE WALLS AND FENCES, THESE ARE PROBABLY THE MOST COMMON TO GET THROUGH. WALLS OR FENCES IN THE FRONT FACADE. WE ANALYZE THIS AND SAY, OKAY. IT DOES APPEAR, YOU KNOW, THE TYPE OF FENCE ON THE CONTRIBUTING BUILDING IS VERY IMPORTANT. BUT IN A NONCONTRIBUTING BUILDING, WE RECOMMEND THAT THAT WOULD BE REVIEWED BY STAFF. AND THEN DENIED BY STAFF.
APPLICATION THAT WE GET THROUGH, CHANGING THE OPENING ON THE MAIN FACADE FOR NONCONTRIBUTING BUILDINGS.
CHANGING THE OPENINGS ON THE FACADE. BOTH OF THOSE WOULD BE MOVED TO STAFF REVIEW. THE OPENING CHANGE WOULD ALSO BE REVIEWED. IT WOULD BE NORMALLY TO THE BOARD FOR A NONCONTRIBUTING , BUT WE ARE RECOMMENDING TO MOVE THAT OUT SO IT GOES TO STAFF AND STAFF MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING BOARD. IT REMAINS TO BE CHANGED IF IT IS CONSUMING PROPERTY THAT WILL GO TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION. SO WE HAVE NOT MOVED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT IN TERMS OF THE CATEGORIES THAT YOU SEE. BUT IT IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT IN TERMS OF THE TYPES OF APPLICANTS AND APPLICATIONS THAT WE GET, AS COMMISSIONER BRODERICK POINTS OUT.
>> IT IS NOT JUST COST ON THEIR TIME. IT IS ALSO THE COST ON THE BOARDS TIME, AND STAFF TIME PROCESSING ALL OF THOSE THINGS, SO, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING. BUT, WE ARE OPEN
TO SUGGESTIONS ON THOSE. >> THESE ARE REFERRING TO RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS OR BUSINESSES, COMMERCIAL
BUSINESSES AND BUILDINGS. >> YES POINT AND IT WOULD BE CLASSIFIED AS CONTRIBUTING OR NONCONTRIBUTING.
>> QUESTIONS OF STAFF? QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
>> YOU MAY SIT DOWN. AT YOUR CHAIR.
>> I FULLY AGREE AND HOPE THIS PASSES WITH NO ISSUES. I THINK THE STAFF SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE MARK DECISIONS AND TAKE IT TO THE BOARD TO HELP EXPEDITE THE PROCESS. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE SO IS HOW THE COA PROCESS IS IN FIRST. SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS GET PAINTED AND THERE IS NO 15. THERE ARE A LOT OF CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE AND THEY CIRCUMVENT THE COA PROCESS AND DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING WHILE THE REST OF US INVESTING THE MONEY AND TIME AND EXPENSE IN DOING THIS PROPERLY. SO WHETHER THEY KNOW OR DON'T KNOW, THESE PEOPLE AROUND, THEY DON'T KNOW THEY ARE IN A HISTORIC BUILDING OR HISTORIC SITE. BUT THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF THINGS DONE.
SIGNS THINKING TOO LOW. A LOT OF THINGS IN THE DOWNTOWN AND AROUND THE AREA, AND, TO KEEP THE INTEGRITY OF THE BUILDINGS AND THOSE THAT ARE DOING THE PROCESS, LIKE WE ARE PUTTING IN, IT IS AN INTENSE PROCESS. JOE SCHMOE DOWN THE STREET DOES
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WHAT THEY WANT AND THERE IS NO RECOURSE. I THAT WE WANT TO STOP THE PEOPLE, BUT AGAIN, IT IS THAT FAIRNESS AND WE NEED SOME CHECKS AND BALANCES IN PLACE. THANK YOU.>> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION?
>> ALL RIGHT. I BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. FOR
DISCUSSION OR A MOTION. >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, IF I MAY. MR. FREEMAN, THIS CAME UP SOME TIME AGO. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE EXACT CHALLENGE OF PEOPLE BUYING HOUSES, SIGHT UNSEEN, AND MOVING INTO OUR AREA. NOT REALLY UNDERSTANDING THAT SOME OF THESE AREAS ARE HISTORIC HOUSES, ET CETERA. DOES THIS PROCESS, WILL IT HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE TO CATCH THAT EARLY ON? BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN THINGS DONE TO HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND PEOPLE GOT NO APPROPRIATE CERTIFICATES. THEY DIDN'T KNOW. THEY CHANGE THE ARCHITECTURE OF IT, ET CETERA, AND THAT WAS A CONCERN AT ONE POINT. HAD WE HAVE THAT IN PLACE HERE TO HELP US WITH THAT AND THE IDENTIFICATION OF THE AREAS OR THE THINGS, AND BY THE WAY, IF YOU CAN DO THIS, IT IS A HISTORICAL SITE.
>> I GET WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. THIS IS TO DO WITH THE PROCESS ONLY. SO, ONCE IT HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED THAT THE WORK IS BEING DONE ON A CONTRIBUTING OR NONCONTRIBUTING BUILDING, THEY WILL BE PUSHED INTO THIS PROCESS. IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AND ASKS THE QUESTION, THEN WE DO THAT PICK YOUR DIRECTING PEOPLE MORE TO COME INTO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND ASK FOR A ZONING VERIFICATION LETTER, WHICH IS A FULL ANALYSIS OF THE PROPERTY IS THAT AND WE HAVE IT ON RECORD, AND IT STOPS. IT PREVENTS A LOT OF BACKWARDS AND FORWARDS GOING BETWEEN STAFF AND APPLICANTS. BUT WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB AT IS -- I THINK JUST IN GENERAL, IS A NOTIFICATION THAT EVERY -- MAYBE EVERY YEAR, WE REACH OUT BY MAIL, IF THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER WAY FOR ALL OF THE PROPERTIES IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND POINT OUT WHAT THE REGULATIONS ARE. I WOULD LIKE -- I WOULD SAY OUR STAFF COULD PREPARE THE PRESSUR WITH OTHER INFORMATIONAL MATERIALS. THEY COULD BE PUSHED OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS. THAT WOULD ONLY GO TO THE EXISTING OWNERS. SOMEBODY PURCHASING THE PROPERTY, UNLESS THEY DO THE FULL DUE DILIGENCE, WOULD NOT FIND THAT THEY MIGHT NEED IT. IT IS LIKE ANYTHING.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T DO DUE DILIGENCE, YOU MIGHT NOT REALIZE YOU ARE IN A COMMERCIAL ZONE RATHER THAN A RESIDENTIAL
ZONE. >> I THINK FOR ME, THE EXERCISE OF PUTTING IN PARAMETERS TO KNOW BEFORE YOU DIG, RIGHT, IS WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING. SO, YOU KNOW, AND SOMEHOW, WE CAN WORK WITH OUR REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY, AS WELL, TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND OUR HISTORICAL PARTS OF THIS. SO I THINK THERE IS SOME OPPORTUNITY HERE JUST FOR SOME COMMUNICATION. THIS GREAT BIG REALTOR ASSOCIATION IS OUT THERE TO HELP US WITH THIS. I LIKE WHAT YOU MENTIONED IN TERMS OF HOW WE COMMUNICATE TO OUR RESIDENTS BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW. THE PROPERTY OWNERS DON'T KNOW. AND I THINK THAT IS A WAY EVEN FOR THOSE THAT MAY HAVE MULTIPLE DWELLINGS IN THE CITY THAT WILL HELP US GET THIS PROBLEM RESOLVED, SO THANK YOU.
>> MAYOR, IF I MAY, I THINK AS WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR NEW SYSTEM, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO IDENTIFY ALL OF OUR HISTORIC PROPERTIES ON THE GIS LAYER. THAT IS AVAILABLE TO FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY, AND MOST OF THE TIME, WHEN THEY COME IN FOR A PERMIT, WE ARE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THE PROPERTIES AS HISTORIC. A LOT OF TIMES, OUR PROBLEMS LIE WITH THE FACT THAT PEOPLE COME IN -- OR THEY DO WORK WITHOUT A PERMIT, AND THEN THE WORK IS ALREADY DONE, AND THEY REALIZE, WELL, NOT ONLY DID THEY NOT -- DO WORK WITHOUT A PERMIT, THEY DID IT ON HISTORIC PROPERTY, BUT WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY NOW WITH OUR NEW TYLER SYSTEM TO IDENTIFY THIS HISTORIC PROPERTIES ON A GIS LAYER, AND WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ENHANCE THAT AND PUSH THAT OUT TO PEOPLE AND, JUST, YOU KNOW, GET THEM USED TO GOING TO THAT SYSTEM, AND DOING THAT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THEIR PROPERTIES, AND PARTICULARLY FOR OUR REALTORS TO PUSH THEIR CLIENTS TO THAT SO THEY CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT THE PROPERTIES.
>> WE HAVE MULTIPLE LEVELS OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO HERE TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND WHEN IT COMES TO THIS. THE APPROACH IS ONE THAT I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING,
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RIGHT, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN YOU MEET WITH THE REALTY ASSOCIATION, BUT THESE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT I WILL KEEP IN MIND. WE OFTEN GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO A REALTOR. EVEN OUR BUILDERS OR WHATEVER IS THE BUILDINGS AND CONTRACTORS, THEY ARE DOING THE WORK, BUT THE MORE WE HAVE OUT THERE, THE MORE WE MAKE A BIG ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT THIS AND KEEP IT IN FRONT OF PEOPLE, THE BETTER THEY WILL DO. LET'S DOTHAT THE BEST WE CAN. >> THIS IS STRATEGIC PLANNING.
WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT OUR HISTORIC DISTRICTS IN A LONG TIME AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT EVEN AWARE THAT WE HAVE HISTORIC DISTRICTS. WE HAVE 6.6. WE NEED TO MAKE A BIGGER
DEAL OF THAT. >> WE HAVE DIFFERENT STREET SIGNS. DIFFERENT STREET SIGNS, I THINK, AND BANNERS AND EVERYTHING, BUT STILL, IT DOESN'T TRANSLATE TO THAT, SO,
COMMISSIONER GAINES. >> I'M GLAD WE BROUGHT THIS UP. MY QUESTION GOES BACK TO WHERE YOU STOPPED. WHEN SOMEBODY HAS DONE SOMETHING WITH OUR PERMANENT, AND SOMEONE HAS NOT FOLLOWED IT, WHAT IS OUR PROCESS? WHAT ARE WE DOING?
>> I KNOW WE WORK WITH THE COUNTY ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT.
THEY COME AND ASK US WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS? SHOULD WE BE ENFORCING THIS? SO THE FIRST ISSUE IS TO NOTIFY THE PERSON INVOLVED THAT, YES. THEY SHOULD SAY SOMETHING. AND THEN, LET'S TRY TO WORK IT THROUGH, WITHOUT GOING IN THERE WITHOUT TAKING ALL THE PAINT OFF. LET'S WORK IT THROUGH, GETTING YOU THE PERMITS THAT YOU NEED, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DO THIS AREN'T INFORMED, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE AREN'T PROFESSIONAL IN TERMS OF DOING THE WORK OR WHATEVER THAT IS. IT MIGHT BE DONE TO A GOOD STANDARD. BUT LET'S GET IT ON RECORD. LET'S GET THE PERMIT SORTED OUT. IF IT IS A COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY, THEN, WE ARE HOLDING PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
>> I UNDERSTAND THE ANSWER, BUT THIS IS MY UNDERSTANDING OF BEING IN A HISTORICAL DISTRICT.
BE KEPT THE SAME WAY AS HISTORICAL DESTINATION. BASED ON YOUR STUFF, THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE THE V'S AND S'S. I'M IN THE HISTORICAL BUILDING. I MAKE SOMETHING OR USE A GARAGE DOOR.
I CHANGE THE GARAGE DOOR OR SOMETHING. WHAT I'M HEARING IS, OKAY. YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT, MR. GAINES. LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIX THE DOOR OR LET ME SEE WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO REMEDY THE SITUATION. DOESN'T THAT AFFECT THE HISTORICAL DESTINATION ON THAT PROPERTY?
>> THAT DEPENDS ON WHETHER IT IS CONTRIBTING OR NONCONTRIBUTING BUILDING. IF WE ARE LOOKING TO RESOLVE THIS TO GET A CERTIFICATE FOR WHATEVER IS DONE, THEN WE WOULD DO THAT AT THE STAFF LEVEL, OR TAKE IT TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD TO RETROACTIVELY GET THAT PERMIT, AND IN THAT PROCESS, THERE MAY BE SOME STAFF SUGGESTIONS OF HOW TO BETTER PROPOSE WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY HAVE DONE, OR THERE ARE MINOR THINGS. AND, YOU KNOW, AS THEY TAKE THIS THING THROUGH, AND THE BOARD THEMSELVES MAY HAVE SUGGESTIONS
TO APPROVE. >> BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS -- AND I'M NOT SAYING WE ARE DOING THIS, BUT CREATE SOME KIND OF LOOPHOLE WHERE WE ARE ALLOWING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF A MISTAKE, WE ARE ALLOWING PEOPLE TO CHANGE A HISTORIC BUILDING, OR, YOU KNOW, SAY, OH, WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW. COME IN AND SAY I DIDN'T KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, BUT NOW, BECAUSE YOU SHOULD DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE. THAT IS WHY THE HAVE THESE HISTORIC DISTRICTS, AND IF WE DON'T TRY TO ENFORCE THESE
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HISTORIC DISTRICTS, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE HISTORIC DISTRICTS. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO -- NOT, NOT, NOT SAYING YOU'RE DOING THIS, BUT I'M TRYING TO STOP THE BLEEDING BEFORE IT COMES BECAUSE IF WE DON'T ENFORCE OUR HISTORIC DISTRICTS, I DON'T CARE HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, ALL OF US UP HERE GO AND TALK TO REALTORS, GO TALK AND PUT UP SIGNS, BUT OF EVERYTHING WE ARE TRYING TO DO. IF WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP THESE HISTORIC DISTRICTS, WE NEED TO --, HEY, GUYS, YOU KNOW, DO SOMETHING. AND I KNOW, IF SOMEONE DOESN'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, I FEEL THEY SHOULD KNOW, BUT IF THEY DON'T KNOW, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT MIGHT DO IT MIGHT NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO GO REPAINTED OR DO WHATEVER POINT.>> SO, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. ONCE IT GETS INTO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS, IT IS ISSUED A CASE NUMBER. UNLESS THERE ARE SOME EXTERNAL CIRCUMSTANCES, THAT ALWAYS GOES TO ANYONE THAT IS FOUND WITHOUT A PERMIT IS PUSHED INTO THE PERMIT SYSTEM. WHETHER THEY CHOOSE TO RESOLVE THAT GOING TO PERMIT OR GOING TO MAGISTRATE AND HAVING A DETERMINATION MADE, THEN THAT IS UP TO THE APPLICANT, BUT ACTION IS ALWAYS TAKEN TO RESOLVE THAT. IT IS NOT IGNORED. IT IS NOT PUT UNDER THE CARPET. WE DON'T HAVE SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS FOR, OKAY. USED LICHEN WHITE STRIPES AND IT SHOULD'VE BEEN THIS.
THAT IS OKAY. THEY HAVE TO COMPLY WITH EVERYTHING.
>> WE HAVE A HISTORIC BUILDING. I'M GOING TO USE YOUR EXAMPLE.
MAYBE IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE BLACK AND WHITE POLKA DOTS.
LET'S KEEP IT SIMPLE. LET'S JUST KEEP IT SIMPLE. WE INFORMED THEM THAT IT SHOULD BE BACK -- BLACK AND WHITE POLKA DOTS. THEY GO TO THE MAGISTRATE. DOES THE MAGISTRATE SAY -- ARE WE PUSHING -- DO WE WANT BLACK AND WHITE STRIPES OR DO WE WANT THE BEST SOLUTION JUST TO MAKE IT THE BEST SOLUTION JUST TO GET THEM A PERMIT, OR COA. THAT IS THE QUESTION I'M ASKING BECAUSE I WANT THE BLACK AND WHITE POLKA
DOTS. >> MADAM MAYOR, IF I MAY JUMP IN, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOUR VIOLATON IS. SO, SOME THINGS ARE RESOLVED EASILY. YOU DIDN'T GET A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS AND YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. SOME THINGS ARE NOT THAT EASY. IF YOU PUT UP A FENCE WITHOUT A PERMIT, AND YOU ARE VIOLATED FOR THAT, YOU WOULD EVENTUALLY, IF YOU DON'T GET YOUR PERMIT, YOU GO THROUGH THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE. HE OR SHE WILL ORDER YOU TO OBTAIN THE PROPER PERMIT WHICH REQUIRES THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS.
IF IT IS NOT GIVEN, THAT PERSON WOULD BE REQUIRED TO REMOVE THAT FENCE TO ANYTHING EXCEPT THE CENTERS. THEY ALL HAVE TO FOLLOW THE PROCESS, REPENT -- DEPENDING ON WHAT THE VIOLATION IS, THAT WILL INDICATE THE SEVERITY WITH WHICH THEY ARE FACING SANCTION, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD.
THE END OF THE DAY, CODE ENFORCEMENT CANNOT BE EVERYWHERE AT ALL POINTS IN TIME, SO IF SOMEONE SEES SOMETHING HAPPENING, THEY NEED TO REPORT THAT TO US SO THEY CAN GO OUT TO SEE IF THE APPROPRIATE PROCESS WAS FOLLOWED FOR THEM TO TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.
>> MADAM ATTORNEY, THANK YOU FOR THAT. I'M GOING TO JUMP INTO YOUR SCENARIO. SO, IF IT IS A FENCE, AND, THERE IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A FENCE, AND THEY DON'T REMOVE THE FENCE, BECAUSE THEY SPENT THIS MONEY TO PUT THE FENCE UP, ARE THEY BEING FINED, OR ARE WE GOING TO TAKE THE FENCE DOWN?
>> THEY WOULD BE FINED. LIEN WOULD EVENTUALLY BE PLACED ON THE PROPERTY. THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE CASE TO STOP THE FINES FROM GOING ON THEIR PROPERTY, TAKING IT TO THE EXTREME HYPOTHETICAL THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, THEY WOULD LOOK AT POSSIBLE FORECLOSURE ON THEIR PROPERTY, IF THEY DID NOT
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PAY OFF THE LIEN ON -- OWED TO THE CITY WHICH WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO REMOVE THE FENCE OR GET THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO GET THE PERMIT. THAT IS THE EXTREME ENDOF THAT CONVERSATION. >> AND I KNOW THAT IS EXTREME, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, OKAY. THANK YOU. WE WILL TALK
>> PLEASE, GO AHEAD. >> THIS MIGHT BE A STUPID QUESTION, BUT, JUST PIGGYBACKING ON WHAT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON WAS TALKING ABOUT, AND THIS MIGHT NOT BE SOMETHING YOU CAN ANSWER, BUT WHAT OPTIONS WOULD WE HAVE AS FAR AS GETTING THAT DESIGNATION ON THE PROPERTY APPRAISER INFORMATION ON THAT SITE ITSELF? I KNOW THE WHOLE LETTER GETS PRINTED OUT WHEN YOU BUY A HOUSE AND IT IS RIGHT ON THEIR POINT THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE. HOW
DO WE PUT ON THEIR -- >> ALL IT IS IS A GIS LAYER.
>> IN MY MIND, IT IS A SIMPLE AS SENDING A SPREADSHEET.
LET'S PUT THAT ON THERE. THAT PROTECTS US. THAT PROTECTS THE BUYER. THAT PROTECTS THE SELLER POINT IT IS IN THE OFFICIAL
DOCUMENTS. >> IT IS A CONVERSATION THAT I HAVE HAD PRIOR, BUT IT IS SIMPLY A GIS LAYER. AND IT MIGHT ACTUALLY EVEN BE THERE AS A LAYER. I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT
IT'S NOT. >> IT IS NOT ON THEIR SITE NOW.
>> I KNOW IT IS NOT ONE OF THOSE DESIGNATIONS LIKE THE ZONING DISTRICT. WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE THE LAYER
AVAILABLE. >> SHE WOULD BE AVAILABLE. IF
IT FITS IN WITH HER -- >> IT MIGHT NOT SHOW UP IN THE CARDS.
>> I PROBABLY HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH HER 10 YEARS AGO OR MORE. BUT I DO KNOW IT CAN EASILY BE A LAYER. ALL OF
OUR LAYERS ARE INTERTWINED. >> IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE IT
ON THAT PROPERTY. >> SHE SHOULD BE WILLING TO DO
IT IF SHE CAN DO IT. YEAH. >> GOOD IDEA.
>> YET PICK I THINK YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS? >> LET'S SEE. WE'VE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS. ARE WE READY FOR A MOTION?
>> YEAH POINT >> MADAM, I'M HIS APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 25-005. PASTOR KENNETH JOHNSON
>> YES MA AM. CITY COMMISSION >> YES MA AM.
[e. Legislative Hearing-Ordinance 25-007, Amending Chapter 103, Article IX - Buildings and Building Regulations, Providing for Public Access to the International Property Maintenance Code. SECOND READING]
>> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. >> YES MA AM. FORT PIERCE
>> THANK YOU. >> NEXT IS 25-007. AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA; AMENDING CHAPTER 103 ÷ BUILDINGS AND BUILDING REGULATIONS, ARTICLE IX ÷ PROPERTY MAINTENANCE ORDINANCE AND HOUSING CODE, SECTION 103-338 ÷ PROPERTY MAINTENANCE ORDINANCE AND HOUSING CODE TO PROVIDE FOR PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH; PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE THIS IS THE SECOND READING. PASTOR
KENNETH JOHNSON >> HE STEPPED OUT. CITY
COMMISSION >> YES MA AM. MADAME MAYOR
>> YES MA AM. >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR.
>> YES MA AM. FORT PIERCE >> YES MA AM.
>> DO WE NEED TO GET HIS BUTT WHEN HE GETS BACK?
>> I THINK HE CAN JUST CALL IN ABSENCE.
>> WE CAN LABEL HIM ABSENT FOR THIS VOTE.
[f. Legislative Hearing-Ordinance 25-008, Amending Chapter 103, Article XI, Buildings and Building Regulations - Mobile and Manufactured Homes Ordinance, Section 103-403, Providing for Public Access to the Mobile/Manufactured Home Repair and Remodeling Guidelines. SECOND READING]
>> WE WILL MOVE ON. >> AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA; AMENDING CHAPTER 103 ÷ BUILDINGS AND BUILDING REGULATIONS, ARTICLE IX ÷ PROPERTY MAINTENANCE ORDINANCE AND HOUSING CODE, SECTION 103-338 ÷ PROPERTY MAINTENANCE ORDINANCE AND HOUSING CODE TO PROVIDE FOR PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE INTERNATIONAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH; PROVIDING A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS THE SECOND
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READING. >> I JUST WANT TO LET MY VOICE BE HEARD.
READING, AND THEY ARE ALWAYS ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, HELP THE COMMUNITY, AND I ADORE PRETTY MUCH ALL THE STUFF OVER THERE.
I'VE NEVER HAD AN ISSUE, AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE THEM PROPS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY GET ENOUGH PROPS, YOU KNOW, AND YOU GUYS ALWAYS HEAR ME COMPLAIN, SO, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M COMING FORWARD TO LET THEM KNOW -- I'M IN APPROVAL OF THIS, BUT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE STAFF MEMBERS DESERVES A RAISE, AND ONE OF THESE DAYS WHEN I HAVE EXTRA TIME, I'M GOING TO DEFINITELY SEND IN A LETTER AND HOPEFULLY THEY CAN GET REWARDED FOR ALL OF THEIR GREAT INVOLVEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, THE INSPECTORS, FROM THE INSPECTORS COME ALL THE WAY THROUGH. IT IS ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN THE BACKGROUND THAT YOU DON'T REALLY GET TO SEE EVERY DAY. THAT ARE AWESOME. YOU KNOW.
KAREN MURPHY. THEY ARE VERY QUICK ON THEIR FEET. THE ANSWER YOU BACK RIGHT AWAY. AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THEM PROPS.
>> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME
FORWARD. >> ALL RIGHT. WE COME BACK TO
THE COMMISSION FOR A MOTION. >> I'M HIS APPROVAL.
>> THERE IS A MOTION AT A SECOND GRADE CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. PASTOR KENNETH JOHNSON
[g. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 25-009: An Ordinance by the City Commission of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida; Amending the Future Land Use Map of the Comprehensive Plan to change the designation of two (2) parcels generally located at or near 2721 South Jenkins Road, from City of Fort Pierce (GC) General Commercial to City of Fort Pierce (RM) Medium Density Residential; Parcel (IDs): 2324-413-0000-000-9 and 2324-431-0001-000-2. FIRST READING]
>> YES MA AM. CITY COMMISSION >> YES MA AM. MADAME MAYOR
>> YES MA AM. >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR.
>> YES MA AM. FORT PIERCE >> YES MA AM.
>> ORDINANCE AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA; AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATION OF TWO (2) PARCELS GENERALLY LOCATED AT OR NEAR 3398 SELVITZ ROAD, FROM CITY OF FORT PIERCE (RL) LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO CITY OF FORT PIERCE (CO) CONSERVATION AND OPEN SPACE; PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT HEREWITH; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> THIS WAS SUBMITTED BY THE COUNTY. IT IS INVOLVES TWO PARCELS. PARCEL 221003 0000. AND IT IS REALLY, AS YOU'LL SEE, ON THE MAP, THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO MOVE THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM WHAT IS IT -- LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO CONSERVATION OPEN SPACE AND THE REASON FOR THE COUNTY COMING IN AND IT'S -- ASKING FOR THAT IS TO COMPLY WITH FLORIDA COMMUNITY'S TRUST GRANT AWARD , WHICH IS USUALLY THE CASE. IT IS USUALLY THE PROPERTY THAT IS PUT ON FOR CONSERVATION USE. TO ME THAT INTO THE PROPER FUTURE LAND USE, SO IT IS PROTECTED UNDER THAT GRANT. IT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS, AND NOBODY HAD ANY BIG ISSUES ABOUT IT. HE WENT TO THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY. AND IT IS OFF. IT IS LOCATED OFF OF SELVITZ ROAD. WHAT THIS MEANS IN TERMS OF FUTURE LAND USE, THERE IS A DECREASE OF 18 RESIDENTIAL UNITS. THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE PLACED ON THE POINT CONSERVATION OF OPEN SPACE FUTURE LAND USE IS AIMED AT PRESERVING AREAS AND ALLOWING SOME PASSIVE RESIDENTIAL'S IN THERE LIKE WALKING PASS AND SO FORTH. SO, YEAH, IT WENT TO THE PLANNING BOARD. DECEMBER 9TH. THAT WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. WE CHECKED IT OUT AGAINST THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE ARE MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT DOES NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE GENERAL WELFARE. WE ARE OFFICIALLY HELPING THE COUNTY
MEET THEIR OBLIGATIONS. >> QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. BECAUSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND
ENTERTAIN A MOTION POINT >> MOTION TO APPROVE POINT
>> SECOND. >> THERE IS A MOTION ANSWERING.
[i. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Ordinance No. 25-011: An Ordinance by the City Commission of the City of Fort Pierce; amending the City's Zoning Atlas and Rezoning two (2) parcels generally located at or near 3398 Selvitz Road, Fort Pierce, Florida, containing approximately 12.357 acres of land, more or less, from (R-1) Single-Family Low Density Zone to (OS-2) Conservation Open Space Zone; Parcel ID(s): 2430-411-0001-000-6 and 2429-321-0003-000-0. FIRST READING]
CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. PASTOR KENNETH JOHNSON>> YES. CITY COMMISSION >> YES. MADAME MAYOR
>> YES MA AM. >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR.
>> YES MA AM. FORT PIERCE >> YES MA AM..
>> THE NEXT IS A QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING. ORDINANCE 25-010. AN
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ORDINANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE; AMENDING THE CITY'S ZONING ATLAS AND REZONING TWO (2) PARCELS GENERALLY LOCATED AT OR NEAR 3398 SELVITZ ROAD, FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 12.357 ACRES OF LAND, MORE OR LESS, FROM (R-1) SINGLE-FAMILY LOW DENSITY ZONE TO (OS-2) CONSERVATION OPEN SPACE ZONE; PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT HEREWITH; AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS THE FIRST READING.>> THIS IS OUR ONE AND ONLY QUASIJUDICIAL. WOULD YOU LIKE
TO RAISE IS READ OUR PROCESS? >> IT SERVES A LEGISLATIVE AND CAUSE A JUDICIOUS -- JUDICIAL ROLE. WHEN ACTING AS A QUASIJUDICIAL BODY, IT APPLIES THOSE POLICIES. QUASIJUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS ARE LESS FORMAL THAN A REPORT. AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE CHAPTER 111, ARTICLE II, SECTION 111-151 DELEGATION OF REVIEW AUTHORITY TO REVISE THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS (COA) APPROVAL MATRIX. PROCEEDINGS MUST FOLLOW THE PROCESS AND DECISIONS MUST BE BASED ON SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. COMMISSIONERS HAVE A DUTY TO CONDUCT THE QUASIJUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS MORE LIKE JUDGES THAN LEGISLATORS. THAT IS WHY THE COMMISSION HAS ESTABLISHED PROCEDURES FOR AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE CHAPTER 111, ARTICLEII, SECTION 111-151 DELEGATION OF REVIEW AUTHORITY TO REVISE THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS (COA) APPROVAL MATRIX. HEARINGS THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED THIS EVENING. NOTED APPROACH THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION ON THE DAIS DURING THE HEARING.
PLEASE GIVE IT TO THE SERGEANT AT ARMS, ANY OF THE POLICE
OFFICERS IN THE CHAMBERS. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.
>> SO, MADAME CLERK, CAN YOU TELL ME, HAVE WE MET THE ADVERTISING AND NOTICE REQUIREMENT?
>> ALL NOTICE REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET, AND, WOULD YOU ASK
COMMISSIONERS ABOUT IT? >> WE WANT TO TAKE A BRIEF
>> DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? PLEASE PROCEED.
>> THANK YOU, MADAME MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSION. THIS IS THE COMPACT ORDINANCE TO THE PREVIOUS ITEM. WE LOOK AT CHANGING THE FUTURE LAND USE. IT IS THE SAME LOCATION. TWO PARCELS. 243041100010006 2429 321 0003 0000. IT IS A REZONING. THAT ZONING IS PRIMARILY SET OUT TO PROTECT NATURAL ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES, SO IT IS A GREAT OVERLAY TO THE FUTURE LAND USE AND DOES THE JOB THAT THE COUNTY BOARD WANTED IT TO DO IN COMPLYING WITH THE FLORIDA COMMITTEE TRUST GRANT. THE EXISTING ZONING'S ARE ONE. I WOULD REMOVE ANY POTENTIAL FOR RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO BE PUT ON THIS PROPERTY. BUT ALSO, ALLOW FOR TRAILS AND PUBLIC ACCESS.
SO, STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING THAT. THIS IS MOVED FOR APPROVAL. PLANNING AND BOARDING UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. DECEMBER 2024 POINT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IT DOES NOT AFFECT SAFETY, CONVENIENCE, AND
GENERAL WELFARE POINT >> QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
>> ARE THE APPLICANTS HERE? IS THERE ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS ISSUE?
>> I'M NOT SEEING AN APPLICANT OR ANY MOVEMENT. I AM GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND COME BACK TO THE COMMISSIONER.
>> I MOVED TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.
>> THERE IS A MOTION IT IS AGAIN. PASTOR KENNETH JOHNSON
>> YES MA AM. CITY COMMISSION >> YES MA AM. MADAME MAYOR
>> YES MA AM. >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR.
[a. Resolution 25-R04 Appointing Nicola Angelos to the City of Fort Pierce Arts and Culture Advisory Board as Commissioner Taylor's appointee.]
>> YES MA AM. FORT PIERCE >> YES MA AM.
>> NEXT ITEM IS A RESOLUTION 25-R04.
>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?
>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> MOTION AND SECOND POINT CALL
[b. Resolution 25-R10 Appointing Dan Noelke to the City of Fort Pierce Parking Committee as Commissioner Taylor's appointee.]
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>> YES MA AM. MADAME MAYOR >> YES MA AM.
>> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. >> YES MA AM. FORT PIERCE
>> YES MA AM.. >> NEXT IS RESOLUTION 25-R10.
RESOLUTION CERTIFYING MEMBERS OF THE PARKING COMMITTEE.
>> THERE IS A MOTION IN SECOND GRADE CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
[c. Resolution 25-R11 Appointing Erick Gill to the City of Fort Pierce Parks Advisory Committee as Commissioner Taylor's appointee.]
PASTOR KENNETH JOHNSON >> YES MA AM. CITY COMMISSION
>> YES MA AM. MADAME MAYOR >> YES MA AM.
>> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. >> YES MA AM. FORT PIERCE
>> YES MA AM. >> NEXT IS RESOLUTION 25-R11 , CERTIFYING MEMBERS TO THE PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
>> MOTION. >> SECOND. PASTOR KENNETH
JOHNSON >> YES. CITY COMMISSION
[d. Resolution 25-R12 Appointing Gabe Atkinson to the City of Fort Pierce Infrastructure Surtax Committee as Commissioner Taylor's appointee.]
>> YES MA AM. MADAME MAYOR >> YES MA AM.
>> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. >> YES MA AM. FORT PIERCE
>> YES MA AM. >> NEXT IS RESOLUTION 25-R12 .
CERTIFYING THE APPOINTMENT OF MEMBERS OF THE CITIZENS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.
>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. >> YES MA AM. FORT PIERCE
[e. Update on City Manager applicants and the establishment of a timeline. ]
>> YES MA AM. >> NEXT IS UPDATE ON CITY MANAGER APPLICANTS AND THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A TIMELINE.
>> YES MA'AM. SO WE ARE SET ON THE MEETING FOR TWO ISSUES.
NUMBER ONE WAS ESSENTIALLY TO PROVIDE US THE NAMES OF ANY APPLICANTS WHO WOULD LIKE TO PULL FROM THE NOT QUALIFIED FOR US TO SEND QUESTIONNAIRES TO THEM, SHOULD YOU WISH TO INTERVIEW THEM. SO MY FIRST QUESTION WOULD BE IF ANYONE HAS AN ADDITIONAL APPLICANT APART FROM THE NAME WE WERE
PREVIOUSLY GIVEN. >> COMMISSIONERS.
>> I DO HAVE A QUESTION, THOUGH.
>> ON THAT LIST, THERE WERE SOME CANDIDATES WHO DID NOT COMPLETE A QUESTIONNAIRE. THERE WERE SOME APPLICANTS THERE. I JUST HAD A GENERAL QUESTION ABOUT THAT. HAVE WE REACHED BACK TO THOSE RESPECTIVE PEOPLE THAT DID NOT? I THINK THEY MAY HAVE BEEN QUALIFIED BUT JUST DID NOT DO THE QUESTIONNAIRE
POINT Ú>> YES SIR. SO HR, WE LOST MR.
SORENSEN. >> WE ARE LOSING EVERYBODY.
>> HE IS COMING BACK IN. HE CAN CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, BUT THE ORIGINAL FIVE THAT WERE QUALIFIED THAT DID NOT SUBMIT THEIR APPLICATIONS. SORRY, THEIR QUESTIONERS.
>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> THAT ORIGINAL GROUP, WENDY 11 ADDITIONAL APPLICANT'S, THAT ISSUE WAS DISCOVERED, WE DID REACH BACK OUT TO THOSE FIVE, AND GAVE THEM A FEW DAYS TO SUBMIT THEIR QUESTIONERS SINCE WE WERE OPENING THE QUESTIONNAIRE TIMEFRAME BACK UP. I BELIEVE ONCE SUBMITTED THEIR QUESTIONNAIRE. THE INTENT IS TO PROVIDE THAT TO YOU ALL WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY DID MISS THE ORIGINAL TIMEFRAME, BUT THE GOAL IS TO BRING YOU AS MANY QUALIFIED ÚAPPLICANTS AS WE CAN POSSIBLY BRING IT WITH AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE CAN BRING YOU. SUBSEQUENT, THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL IN THAT GROUP THAT REACHED OUT THAT SAID, ESSENTIALLY, HIS EMAILS WERE GOING TO THE SPAM FOLDER. HE DID NOT SEE THE DEADLINE. SO WE INTEND TO HAVE HIM PROVIDE THAT QUESTIONNAIRE, AND, AGAIN, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT HE DID NOT MAKE THE ORIGINAL DEADLINE, AND YOU WILL ALL PROCEED AS YOU DEEM APPROPRIATE WITH HIS APPLICATION, AND I BELIEVE IF THAT WAS NOT RELATED TO HIM TODAY, IT WILL BE TOMORROW. IT
WILL BE TOMORROW. >> OKAY. HIM OR HER. SO, THERE ARE TWO POTENTIALS THAT YOU WILL BE GETTING WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING, AND WE WILL POINT THOSE TWO OUT TO YOU, HAVING MISSED THAT ORIGINAL DEADLINE, BUT PROVIDED AFTER
>> YES OR POINT >> AND THAT WAS MY EXACT
QUESTION. >> SO, FROM WHAT I HEARD, THERE
IS NOBODY TO ADD ANY NAMES. >> WE DID ADD ONE LAST TIME.
>> YES MA'AM, AND IF HR CAN CONFIRM, WAS THAT SENT OUT TO
HIM? >> YES. IT WAS SENT OUT TO THEM. I APPLAUD US POINT QUICKER THAN I THOUGHT.
>> THAT'S HER POINT >> WE DID SEND THAT OUT TO THE INDIVIDUAL. ALSO, AT THE LAST MEETING, COMMISSION ASKED US TO REACH OUT TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE HAD ALREADY TALKED TO, WITHOUT GIVING ADDITIONAL TIME. WE DID THAT, AS WELL. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT, SO FAR, I'VE GOTTEN ONE RESPONSE BACK. I APPRECIATE IT, BUT, NO, I AM GOOD. WHAT I SUBMITTED IS GOOD.
SO I ANTICIPATE THAT IS WHAT WE WILL FIND BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALREADY TOLD US THAT ONCE. WE JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK
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WITH THEM. >> I APPRECIATE THAT. YEAH.
>> YOU SHOULD HAVE IN YOUR DESK, IF YOU DON'T MIND, A COPY OF THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY.
>> I HAVE NOT PASSED THAT OUT YET.
>> YOU HAVE NOT PASSED THAT OUT. OKAY.
>> YOU WILL HAVE IN JUST A MOMENT.
>> SHORTLY. >> WE WILL MAKE SURE THIS GETS
PUBLISHED, AS WELL. >> WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS GO OVER THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY REALLY QUICK. YOU WILL SEE ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, THE APPROVAL PROCESS TIMELINE. I CHANGED OUR ORIGINAL DATES TO TO BE DETERMINED SO THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY THE DATES AND UPDATE THE SUMMARY AT THAT POINT. THE SECOND THING WE WANT TO BRING THE ATTENTION TO HIS AS YOU LOOK AT ITEM 4, THE APPLICANT ANALYTICS, I WANTED TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD THAT WE HAD 77 TOTAL APPLICANTS BUT OF THOSE 77, TWO APPLICANTS HAVE WITHDRAWN AT DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE PROCESS, SO WE ARE DOWN TO 75 APPLICANTS. TODAY, WE HAVE A TOTAL THAT WE DEEMED AS QUALIFIED APPLICANTS OF 29 AND WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 46 THAT ARE DEEMED NOT QUALIFIED. OF THE 75, THERE ARE A TOTAL OF 76 APPLICANTS THAT ARE IN THE STATE AND NINE APPLICANTS OUT OF STATE, AND WE HAVE ONE INTERNAL APPLICANT. ON ITEM LITURGY, I WANT TO GO OVER WHO HAS COMPLETED THE QUESTIONNAIRE. WE HAVE THE 19 ORIGINAL THAT COMPLETED THEM ON TIME. THOSE ARE STILL COMPLETED. MADAME ATTORNEY EXPLAINED, WE HAVE FOUR -- ONE OF THE APPLICANTS THAT SUBMITTED. WE HAVE FIVE ADDITIONAL APPLICANTS THAT WE SENT TO THE QUESTIONNAIRE TOO.
THEY RETURNED IT WITHIN THE TIMEFRAME. AS WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING, HE WAS SENT TO THE QUESTIONNAIRE AND HE HAS THE TIME IN THE TWO WEEK TIME PERIOD TO RETURN IT TO US. WE WILL BRING THAT ALONG, AS WELL. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE GEOGRAPHICS OF WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM COMMAND THE TOTAL APPLICANTS THAT COMPLETED SO FAR IS 25. SO, OF THAT FIVE, THERE WERE NINE LOCAL, WHICH WE DETERMINED AS PORT ST. LUCIE -- AND JUPITER, FT. LAUDERDALE, JACKSONVILLE. MADEIRA BEACH, CLERMONT, DELRAY BEACH POINT
>> AT THIS MOMENT, THAT IS WHERE WE ARE WITH THE PROCESS.
HE WANTED TO SET A DATE TO ACTUALLY GO THROUGH THE SHORTLISTING, AND SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS YOU HAVE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AS FAR AS CREATING A
TIMELINE. >> QUESTIONS OF STAFF?
>> MADAME MAYOR. >> YES OR POINT
>> THE FIRE THAT CAME FROM THOSE APPLICATIONS, ALL FIVE
WERE FILLED OUT? >> YES .05 FILLED OUT THE QUESTIONNAIRE. WE REACH OUT AND ASKED HIM, HEY, COME AFTER OUR SPECIAL MEETING. THE COMMISSION DECIDED TO GIVE ADDITIONAL TIME IF YOU WANT IT, AND WE GOT ONE BACK SAYING, I'M GOOD. I WILL HAVE THE OTHER FOUR ANSWERS BACK.
>> OKAY. SO, WHAT WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW, I THINK IS LOOKING FOR THE NEXT SPECIAL MEETING. CORRECT?
>> OKAY. WELL, MY CALENDAR IS --
>> SO WE ARE STILL IN THAT ADDITIONAL 14 DAY PERIOD THAT WE ALTHE FINAL CONDITION 5. JUST TRYING TO
REMEMBER WHERE I'M AT. >> THAT'S A GOOD POINT. WHAT IS THE EARLIEST DATE WE COULD MEET? IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE
>> WHATEVER DAY THAT WAS. THURSDAY POINT
>> IT WOULD BE ANYWHERE THE FIRST WEEK. IT WOULD BE ANYWHERE AFTER THE THIRD IN FEBRUARY.
>> IS IT THURSDAYS? >> SORRY TO JUMP IN. FEBRUARY -- OH NO. NEVERMIND. THAT IS THE DEPARTMENT OF STRATEGIC PLANNING. NOT YOUR STRATEGIC PLANNING POINT I THOUGHT THAT
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WAS YOUR STRATEGIC PLANNING. THURSDAY WOULD WORK.>> YES, BUT WE SHOULD BE DONE BY 5:00.
>> THAT IS SO THE DUE DATE IS FEBRUARY 3RD?
>> YES. WANT TO MAKE IT THE SIXTH?
>> THE SIXTH I CAN DO. I CAN DO THE SIXTH.
>> BLESS YOU. >> IT IS COLD IN HERE.
>> DO THE 4:00 AGAIN? >> THE STAFF HAS STRATEGIC PLANNING. IT DEPENDS ON WHEN THE STAFF CAN GET THROUGH AND
HAVE ANOTHER MEETING. >> I'VE ASKED MS. COX TO
EXCUSE HERSELF. >> WHAT DID YOU SAY? IT WILL NOT GO UNTIL 5:00.
>> WOULD WE BE SAFE FOR A 4:00 MEETING?
>> WOULD WE BE SAFER FOR:00? OH, OKAY.
>> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. >> EVEN TO BE CONSISTENT.
>> I AM OKAY WITH 5:00, TOO. >> WE WILL GO WITH 5:00.
INAUDIBLE ] >> I WILL BE HERE.
>> DO WE WANT TO DO 5:05 FOR CONSISTENCY'S SAKE?
>> THAT'S FINE. >> SO FEBRUARY 6TH AT 5:05 P.M.
EXCUSE ME. FEBRUARY 6TH AT 5:00 -- 5:05 P.M.
>> SORRY. I JUST GOT A TEXT THAT I HAVE A CONFLICT. YEAH.
>> THEY ARE MONITORING MY ACTIVITIES, APPARENTLY.
>> IS. I HAVE A CONFLICT THAT DAY.
>> I THINK I HAVE A CONFLICT. THE DOSE WHAT IS MONDAY THE
THIRD? >> I'M CHECKING. HOLD ON. WHAT
ABOUT THE FOURTH? >> WE HAVE QUESTIONNAIRES DONE ON MONDAY, THE THIRD. DO WE HAVE TIME TO REVIEW THEM PRIOR TO THE FOURTH?
>> I CAN DO THE FIFTH. >> I CAN DO THE FIFTH IF I
CANCEL MY DENTIST THE POINT. >> I DON'T THINK I HAVE A LONG TPO MEETING. I RUN EFFICIENT MEETINGS. WE COULD DO 5:00 THAT
DAY. >> 5:00 ON WEDNESDAY, THE
>> WE WILL DO THAT FOR YOU. >> THANKS, GUYS. APPRECIATE IT.
>> ARE YOU OKAY, COMMISSIONER GAINES?
>> I'M FINE WITH THE FIFTH. >> OKAY.
>> DID YOU CHECK WITH YOUR HANDLER?
>> I DID. >> MY SCHEDULE MANAGER.
>> SO WE WILL SET THE MEETING TO SELECT THE INTERVIEW CANDIDATES FOR THE FIFTH AT 5:05. THE NEXT TRIGGERING DATES WOULD BE WHEN YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO DO YOUR ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEWS. SO, STAFF CAN START WORKING WITH THEM, BUT, GIVEN THAT WE HAVE FIVE SCHEDULES TO COORDINATE WITH, WE LIKELY NEED A DAY OR TWO WITHIN FEBRUARY WHERE YOU ALL ARE ALL AVAILABLE FOR THAT DAY, TO DO INTERVIEWS HERE AT SUNY -- CITY HALL.
>> KEEP IN MIND THAT IF ANYONE IS TRAVELING OUTSIDE OF THE STATE, TO COME TO THE INTERVIEWS, WE WILL HAVE TO COURTNEY THAT, AS WELL. AIRLINE TICKETS AND SUCH. WE NEED SOME
TIME TO DO THAT, AS WELL. >> THAT IS PRESIDENTS' DAY.
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THAT SHIFTS OUR COMMISSION MEETING TO THE 18TH. OF FEBRUARY.>> AND KEEP IN MIND, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY APPLICANTS YOU CHOOSE TO INTERVIEW, THAT MAY GO DOWN.
>> I LOOK GOOD ON THE 20TH. >> I HAVE SOMETHING IN THE
>> I HAVE RETIREMENT BOARD ON THE 20TH.
>> I'M OUT OF TOWN FROM THE 19TH TO THE 26TH. WE CAN DO
THIS BY ZOOM. >> THE 19TH THROUGH THE 26TH.
OKAY. WELL, I SAY, HOW ABOUT THE 27TH?
>> WHAT ABOUT THE 18TH? >> IT IS THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING, BUT I'M GOOD ON THE 18TH OR THE 27TH.
>> THE 18TH IS FINE. WE HAVE A BOARD MEETING BUT WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE IN THE CHAMBERS. RIGHT? WE ARE GOING TO BE
INTERVIEWING? >> IT IS UP UNTIL -- WE HAVE A COMMISSION MEETING THAT NIGHT. DON'T WE HAVE THE UTILITY AUTHORITY? MORNINGS. ON THE 18TH.
>> THEY COULD FLEX YOUR SCHEDULE IF YOU WANTED TO START
EARLIER. >> I COULD SKIP THAT MEETING.
>> THEY HAVE TO ROTATE THROUGH.
>> IT DEPENDS ON HOW LONG THE SHORTLIST IS.
>> WE WILL TRY FOR THE 18TH. HOW ABOUT THAT?
>> NOTHING ELSE GETS BOOKED ON YOUR CALENDAR.
>> MINE IS PRETTY MUCH ALREADY FULL.
>> OKAY. >> INTERVIEW DATE. -- DAY .
>> I JUST REALIZED I HAD A HUGE COMMISSION -- COMMENDED ON THE
SIXTH. >> OKAY. THAT IS ALL WE HAD TO DECIDE, RIGHT? WE KNOW WHAT DATE THE INTERVIEW IS POINT WE WILL DECIDE THAT AT
A LATER DATE. >> EVERYBODY GOOD?
>> OKAY. >> WITH THE ADDITIONAL LISTENERS COMING IN, WE DON'T NEED TO WAIT TO HAVE THAT
MEETING TO GET THOSE, RIGHT? >> I'M GOING TO FORWARD THEM
TO THE CITY ATTORNEY. >> YES, SO.
>> EVERYTHING WE HAVE THIS WEEK, AS OF NOW, WE WILL GET TO YOU THIS WEEK. ANYTHING THAT COMES IN SUBSEQUENT, WHICH, CANDIDLY, WE EXPECT TO BE VERY SMALL, WE WILL SEND THOSE AS WE GET THEM. BUT WE WILL EXPECT QUESTIONNAIRES.
>> WE HAVE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE ONES THAT YOU ARE
>> YOU HAVE FOUR THAT CAN COME IN . YOU HAVE THE ONE THAT WE SENT OUT TO THE ONE APPLICANT THAT WE CHOSE TO ADD TO THE
LIST. >> THAT IS A GREAT POINT. LET ME RESTATE THAT. AS LONG AS THOSE FOUR SAY THEY DON'T WANT ADDITIONAL TIME, WE WILL SEND THEM. IF THEY WANTED THE ADDITIONAL TIME, WE WILL WAIT TO SEND THOSE BECAUSE THEY MIGHT WANT TO CHANGE THEIR ANSWERS.
>> OKAY. >> I GUESS WHAT WE WANT IS WE WANT THEM AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
>> IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS TOPIC? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS TOPIC? ARE YOU CLEAR? MS. HEDGES, YOU ARE
[14. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]
CLEAR? >> I THINK WILL MOVE ON THE
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POINT >> NEXT ITEM IS COMMENTS FOR
THE PUBLIC. >> THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU WILL GET A 10 SECOND WARNING. WELCOME.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MARY SERMONS.
84946. TO THE MAYOR, TO THE COMMISSIONERS, I COME AS A REPRESENTATIVE FOR SURVIVORS OF MURDERED VICTIMS. I COME TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE CITY, AND TO PUBLIC WORKS FOR THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE. AT THE WALL. IN DREAMLAND PARK. IT IS VERY EVIDENT ON SATURDAY, WHEN THEY DID THAT, HOW NICE THAT AREA IS. IF THE PLANTS HAD BEEN FLOURISHING MORE, THEY MADE SURE NOT TO CUT THEM BACK, UNTIL AFTER THE SERVICE, BUT I WANT TO THANK THE PUBLIC WORKS FOR THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE DONE ON THE LIGHTING THAT WAS DONE ON THE POST, AND THE LIGHTING THAT POINTS TOWARDS THE WALL SO THAT PEOPLE CAN FROM THE STREET SEE IT AS A PLACE OF MEMORIAL, AND SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO A CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP FOR THE BRICKS THAT WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO GET NAMED -- ETCHED ON DOWN THE PANELS WHERE MORE NAMES CAN GO UP AND THE SIGNAGE ACROSS THE TOP THAT SAYS THAT MEMORIAL WALL OF PRAYER.
SO I'M COMING TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE. AND CONTINUE TO DO. WE, BEING THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE CAN PUT A BENCH THERE, SO THAT THERE ARE BENCHES AROUND THE CIRCLE. SO WHEN PEOPLE COME AND WANT TO PRAY OR SIT AND MEDITATE AND THINK ABOUT GOD, THAT IT IS THERE. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I SAW THE BENCH AS MYSELF.
>> YEAH. >> PLEASE, SIR. YOU WERE NEXT.
GROUP HAD TO SAY AND IT WAS INFORMATIVE. I THINK WE ARE HEADED THE RIGHT DIRECTION. WE SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN IN THIS POSITION. WE SHOULD'VE HAD THIS WORKED OUT SIX YEARS AGO.
COST HOURS OF STAFF TIME, YOUR TIME, THE CITIES TIME. IT HAS BEEN WASTED IN THIS PROCESS. IT LEADS TO THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO PUT YOUR HATS ON FOR THIS MAYOR MANAGER POSITION. WE'VE HAD SO MANY FAILED RFPS. CONGRATULATIONS TO COMMISSIONER TAYLOR ON HIS RECENT APPOINTMENT. THANK YOU.
>> ANYONE ELSE? COMMISSIONER, >> HEY. MY NAME IS ERIN O'BRIAN. I HAVE EMAILED YOU ABOUT AN ITEM. EMAILS ARE DIFFICULT TO FULLY EXPRESS IDEAS. I WANTED TO ADD TO THE CONTENTS AND INCLUDE ALL THE COMMISSIONERS. ON NEW YEAR'S DAY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, PROPERTY WHICH WAS SOLD IN MID-DECEMBER TO AN LLC CUT DOWN A MATURE OAK. OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, SEVERAL MORE LIVE OAKS AND PALM TREES HAVE BEEN REMOVED. SEVERAL PEOPLE NOTIFIED CODE ENFORCEMENT ABOUT THE NEAR STATE INCIDENT. CODE ENFORCEMENT PHOTO UP WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER SEVERAL TIMES, WHICH HAS BEEN HELPFUL. WE ARE WAITING FOR ALL OF THIS TO GET WORKED UP. I RESEARCHED THE STATE STATUTE WHICH HAS BEEN DISCUSSED IN 163045, INCLUDING READING SEVERAL COURT DECISIONS ASSOCIATED WITH IT. THE PURPOSE OF THE STATUTE IS FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER TO MAINTAIN TREES ON THEIR PROPERTY. SEVERAL TREES WERE REMOVED, AND THEN AN ARBORIST COMPLETED AN ASSESSMENT AFTERWARDS. THAT IS BACKWARDS. THE TREE WAS REMOVED ON A HOLIDAY. THE PROPERTY IS NOT ACTIVELY USED FOR SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PURPOSE, SO IT DOESN'T EVEN MEET THE STATUTES THE DEFINITION OF A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. FUA DISCONNECTED POWER TO THE POLE IN 2013. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN LOOKING FORWARD TO SOMETHING BEING DONE WITH THIS PROPERTY FOR A LONG TIME. IT IS AN EYESORE. WE KNOW WE NEED MORE HOUSING IN FT.
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PIERCE. WE WELCOME IMPROVEMENTS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS ALL GOOD NEWS. HERE IS THE PROBLEM. CIRCUMVENTING THE CITY ORDINANCES BY MISUSING A STATE STATUTE. I'VE WORKED IN CONSTRUCTION FOR 25 YEARS. I KNOW THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.WORKING IN MANY DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS, THE PROCESS IS NEARLY IDENTICAL. WHAT WE HAVE SEEN HERE SO FAR ON THIS PROPERTY IS NOT THE CORRECT PROCESS. WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHITE THE RULE IS NOT BEING APPLIED EVENLY IN THIS PLACE.
THE INTENT OF THE STATUTE IS NOT FOR A DEVELOPER TO PURCHASE A PROPERTY, CLEAR THE LOT AND THEN APPLY FOR PERMITS. THAT IS NOT HOW CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT GO. THAT IS NOT THE MESSAGE WE WANT TO SEND OUT. WE DON'T WANT TO SET PRECEDENTS THAT ALLOW DEVELOPERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS TO BYPASS OUR ORDINANCES. SOMETHING THAT I HEARD RECENTLY THAT I REALLY LIKED AND I'M USING IT AT WORK IS A PROBLEM WITHOUT A SOLUTION IS A COMPLAINT POINT AND I PREFER TO WORK TOWARDS SOLUTIONS, SO HERE IS ONE. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WILL CONTINUE TO FIND WAYS TO HELP THE CITY APPROPRIATELY APPLIED THE STATUTE AND THE ORDINANCES SIMULTANEOUSLY, JUST AS OTHER JURISDICTIONS HAVE DONE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND
ATTENTION. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS LAURA. I'M THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE OAKLAND PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I AM THE OWNER OF THE HOUSE OF CONFUSING STRUCTURE.
INAUDIBLE - STATIC ] I WAS SO GLAD TO HEAR SOMEBODY SAY THAT THEY WANT TO DISCUSS AND LOOK BACK INTO THESE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS. PART OF THE QUESTION IS WE VALUE CONTRIBUTE INSTRUCTORS, HOORAY, BUT IF YOU CLEAR CUT AORTA NEXT TO A STRUCTURE AND BUILD AN ABOMINATION, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE TO HAVE HISTORIC HOMES? THEY ARE IN HISTORIC COMMUNITIES AND THIS CITY HAS A LOT OF HISTORIC HOUSES AND COMMUNITIES. THE PEOPLE MOVING INTO THEM WANT TO BE HERE. I MOVED UP HERE FROM SOUTH FLORIDA WENT OVER DEVELOPMENT DESTROYED IT. I MOVED UP HERE 30 YEARS AGO. I'VE BEEN IN THIS HOUSE FOR 32 YEARS. I CHOSE CITY COMMISSION ON PURPOSE BECAUSE OF THE BONES. BECAUSE OF THE MULTINATIONAL MAKE UP OF THIS COMMUNITY. WE ARE BACK IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO PARTICIPATE WITH THIS COMMUNITY. WE HAVE GOTTEN RESIDENCE FROM OF THE -- RESISTANCE OF HER TRYING TO TAKE UP AWAY. WE ARE GETTING MORE ORGANIZED. WE ARE GETTING BIGGER IN OUR LOCAL NEIGHBORHOODS. WE WANT TO BE HERE AS CITIZENS OF THIS CITY, AND WE ARE GOING TO HELP YOU HELP US. SO WE WANT TO BE COOPERATIVE. WE WANT TO BE GOOD CITIZENS OF THIS IMMUNITY, BUT WE ARE CALLED TO MAKE SURE WE SAVE OUR COMMUNITIES. WITH YOU, OR IN SPITE OF YOU. AND BY THE WAY, I WAS ON THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD. YOU GOT ME INVOLVED WHEN I CAME TO COMPLAINT AND YOU ASKED ME TO SERVE. AND I WAS SO MAD AND SAID, SHE IS BRILLIANT, BECAUSE HOW DO I GET HERE, OPEN MY BIG MOUTH AND SAY NO? THANK YOU FOR THE TIME AT THE END OF THIS MONTH MEETING AND YOU WILL BE SEEING MORE FROM PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE ALL RISE TOGETHER. AND IF WE WANT THAT HOTEL TO BE A SUCCESS, WE NEED NICE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THE HISTORIC ONES ARE A GEM. THANK
YOU, MA'AM. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. WHO IS
>> MR. COLLIER SAID EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE SAYING. CITY COMMISSION NEEDS TO BE A DESTINATION CITY. WITH THE CUSHIONS HE WAS ASKING AND COMMENTS HE WAS MAKING, HE IS UNDER THE PERCEPTION THAT FT. PIERCE IS MORE HUSTLING AND BUSTLING THAN WE ARE. MAYBE SOME WERE OVER INVESTMENTS POINT BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF THE CITY DOESN'T MEET HIS EXPECTATIONS? THAT IS MY CONCERN ABOUT HAVING THE TRIBUTE LUXURY BRAND HOTEL. WHAT DO WE HAVE TO OFFER? HE WAS DISCUSSING FT. MEYERS, ET CETERA. HOW DO YOU NOT SEE THOSE DESTINATIONS, WITH THOSE HAVE PLENTY TO DO. WE HAVE BEEN BEGGING FOR HELP TO LAY OUT WHAT HAS TO BE DONE, AND THE CITY CANNOT JUST SIT BACK AND HOPE PEOPLE WILL COME ONCE IT IS BUILT. DRIVE AROUND TONIGHT WHEN YOU LEAVE. OUR CITY LOOKS DESOLATE. NOT A LOT OF PLACES FOR RESTAURANTS. THE ONES WE
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HAVE HAVE LIMITED HOURS. IT IS NOT ALLOWED TO DRAW PEOPLE HERE, LET ALONE COME GET THEM ENTERTAINED FOR EXTENDED PERIODS OF TIME. THE CITY NEEDS TO STEP UP AND DO THEIR PART TO HELP GET THE CITY BACK ON ITS FEET, BACK TO HUSTLING AND BUSTLING AGAIN, TO BRING IT HERE, AND WE NEED BETTER EVENTS, BUT WE NEED THE CODE UPDATED FOR ALLOWING A CALL WITHOUT CLOSING THE STREET, SO WE CAN HOLD ELEVATED, NICE EVENTS, LIKE SO MANY OTHER CITIES DO. SHOPS, ET CETERA.FRIDAY FEST IS STRUGGLING, AND NOT A GOOD REPRESENTATION OF THE CITY. WE NEED THE CITY TO START GETTING PROACTIVE AND START IMPLEMENTING CHANGE, AND CLEANING UP THE CITY OVERALL.
THERE HAS BEEN COUCH BEHIND THE COUNTY PARKING GARAGE FOR QUITE A WHILE NOW. A FULL-SIZED COUCH, AND A BROKEN DESK ON THE SIDEWALK, SITTING THERE. I'M TIRED OF HAVING TO GO TO CODE ENFORCEMENT TO MAKE THESE COMPLAINTS OR DO SOMETHING. HOW MANY OF THE CITY STAFF WALK AROUND AND NOT SEE THIS? IT IS NOT FAIR TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE TO HAVE THE GOOD NEIGHBORS REPORT THESE, LIKE WAS SAID EARLIER. WE DON'T WANT TO GO ON RECORD. FLORIDA STATUTES REQUIRE US TO GO ON TO RECORD, AND WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO SIT THERE AND TELL ON OUR NEIGHBORS, BUT SOME OF THIS STUFF CANNOT BE IGNORED, AND EVERYBODY SEES THIS, CODE ENFORCEMENT, EVERYBODY IS WALKING AROUND TOWN. WE NEED TO LOOK AROUND AND GET THIS STUFF FIXED. GO BEHIND TO DEFAULT -- CITY HALL. PUT PICTURES UP, AND OVERALL, WE NEED TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO SUSTAIN THIS
ADDRESS THIS DOCUMENT. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T BRING COPIES. I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU COULD PASS THEM OUT. SO HERE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS. IT APPEARS THAT THERE IS A POTENTIAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST FOR APPLICANTS INVOLVED IN THE HIRING PROCESS FOR CITY MANAGER. I'M ADVOCATING FOR FAIRNESS AND EQUALITY FOR APPLICANTS. PLEASE SEE THE ATTACHED POTENTIAL CONFLICT DOCUMENT HIGHLIGHTS -- HIGHLIGHTED FOR YOUR POTENTIAL CONVENIENCE. THAT IS THIS DOCUMENT. IT IS IN YOUR EMAIL. THE SAME ISSUE EXISTS IN THE AUGUST 19, 2024, IN THE PREPARATION OF 13C. THE DESIGNATION OF ACTING CITY MANAGER. IT MAY APPEAR NOT TO BE TRANSPARENT TO THOSE WHO ARE SPENDING MANY HOURS APPLYING TO THE POSITION. IT NO DOUBT TOOK MANY HOURS TO ANSWER. AN ACTIVE APPLICANT, ACTIVE -- ACTING CITY MANAGER IS LISTED AS THE ONE PREPARING TO COMMENCE, WHICH INCLUDE A SUMMARY, AND QUESTIONNAIRES. ON DECEMBER 9TH 2024, SARAH HEDGES STATED ON THE RECORD THAT LINDA COX IS BEING STONEWALLED WHILE DISCUSSING 11D. IF YOU ARE APPLYING FOR THIS POSITION, WOULD YOU FEEL THIS WAS AN -- A FAIR AND IMPARTIAL PROCESS? IF THERE IS ONE THING THAT WE CAN ALL AGREE ON, IT IS TO CONTRACT THE BEST CANDIDATE AVAILABLE TO BE CEO OF THE CITY OF FT.
PIERCE. HOW MANY CANDIDATES HAVE BEEN DISENCHANTED WITH THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY OF THE BLACK AND WHITE SEGMENTS THAT APPEAR IN PUBLIC RECORDS FOR ALL TO SEE? CANDIDATES NO DOUBT FOLLOW THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS REMOTELY OR IN PERSON WHEN REQUESTING A MEETING WITH EACH ONE OF YOU. WE THE PEOPLE OF FT. PIERCE ARE TIRED OF NEGATIVE FELICITY IN THE CITY THAT HAS POTENTIAL TO BE AN AMAZING DESTINATION SPOT AS WAS STATED TODAY. I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME IN ADVANCE IN MEETING WITH ME. AS AN ADVOCATE, I ALWAYS HAVE HAD A SPECIAL PLACE IN MY HEART FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T SPEAK. THE CANDIDATES WOULD NEVER COMPLAIN ABOUT THIS AS THEY WOULD FEAR NOT HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO SECURE THE POSITION THAT THEY HAVE INVESTED MUCH TIME IN TRYING TO OBTAIN. FOR THIS, I SAY THIS PRAYER FOR THIS CITY. MAY GOD LOOKOVER THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE AND HELP US PUT OUR CITY ON THE RIGHT PATH WITH DIVINE INTERVENTION FOR THE PUBLIC SERVANTS FOR THE CITY OF
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FT. PIERCE. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU VERY MUCH BUT ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS COMMISSION?
[15. COMMENTS FROM THE CITY MANAGER]
OKAY. SEEING NO MOVEMENT, WE COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION.AND TO OUR AGENDA. >> COMMENTS FROM THE CITY
>> I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IF YOU HAVEN'T NOTICED, COLD WEATHER IS UPON US. WE WILL BE OPENING THE COLD WEATHER SHELTERS. THURSDAY EVENING, JANUARY 23RD, AND FRIDAY EVENING, JANUARY 24TH AT THE GYM. FOR ANYONE THAT NEEDS TRANSPORTATION, TRANSPORTATION IS PROVIDED FROM THE AREA REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION, ANYONE SEEKING TRANSPORTATION TO THOSE SHELTERS. THE SEND OUT A HUGE THANK YOU TO OUR SOUTH BEACH VOLUNTEERS. SHE IS THE ORGANIZER OF ALL OF THOSE VOLUNTEERS, AND REPORTS TO US EVERY MONTH HOW MANY HOURS THEY LOGGED, AND IN 2024, THEY LOGGED 2464 CLEANUP HOURS AND REMOVED 36,960 GALLONS OF TRASH. THAT IS THE HIGHEST NUMBER IN 2015, AND I AM SO ABSOLUTELY GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THEY DO. I THINK IT IS ABSOLUTELY TREMENDOUS. AT THE SAME TIME, IT IS SAD THAT WE HAVE THIS MUCH GARBAGE ON OUR BEACHES. JUST SO GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE VOLUNTEERS OUT THERE BECAUSE HONESTLY, WE CAN'T DO THAT ALONE. THAT IS A COMMUNITY EFFORT AT ITS FINEST.
ALSO WANTED TO REMIND YOU THAT STRATEGIC PLANNING IS THIS THURSDAY, JANUARY 23RD AT 830 AT THE RIVERWALK CENTER.
>> STARTING AT 8:30 OR SO AT 9:00?
>> STARTING AT EIGHT, 30 POINT SO BE THERE AND BE READY TO WORK HARD. THEY WORKED US VERY HARD. WE WORKED UNTIL 5:00.
THAT IS ALL I HAVE THIS EVENING.
[16. COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION]
>> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? >> READY. WE WILL MOVE ON TO COMMISSION COMMENTS, AND HE WOULD LIKE TO START? COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START?
>> I HAVE NO COMMENTS. >> I WAS AT THE PARADE YESTERDAY. IT WAS GREAT TO SEE THE CITY. SECOND, THE JOB FAIR IS COMING UP, SO I KNOW WE CAN NEVER SAY TOO MUCH ABOUT THAT.
WE DON'T WANT TO MISS IT, BUT I WILL DO MY PART IN CIRCLING THE FIRE THOSE FIRES SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO GET THAT FOR OUR COMMUNITY -- AS OPPORTUNITIES ARE AVAILABLE FOR THAT DAY.
>> MR. TAYLOR. >> JUST QUICKLY, I WAS ABLE TO DO MY ORIENTATION,/LAST WEEK, AND IT WAS REALLY FUN. I ENJOYED IT. I HAVE NEVER SEEN SO MANY PEOPLE PASSIONATE ABOUT
>> SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE TEAM DID WE REALLY HAVE SOME PASSIONATE PEOPLE AT THAT ORGANIZATION POINT I'M REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE A CHANCE TO WORK WITH THEM. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE TOUR. THAT WAS A REALLY EXCITING EMAIL TO SEE. THAT IS A VERY IMPRESSIVE FEE. I WOULD LOVE TO EXPLORE DOWN THE ROAD. I WAS CURIOUS WHAT WE COULD DO TO PREVENT THAT IN THE FUTURE. BUT IT IS AWESOME WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT CARES THAT MUCH TO GET THAT CLEANED UP. SO THANK YOU TO CHARLENE. THAT IS ALL I GOT.
>> MR. GAINES. >> YES, MADAM MAYOR. FIRST, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON AND EVERYBODY THAT IS LISTENING, THE JOB FAIR IS JANUARY 29TH. SO PUT IT ON YOUR CALENDARS.
GENERATE 29TH. COMMISSIONER, MADAM MAYOR, I WILL NOT BE ATTENDING THAT RETIREMENT CONFERENCE THAT THEY ARE MEETING FOR THIS FRIDAY. I THINK I'M THE ONLY ONE ON THE
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BOARD THAT CERTIFIED AS NOT GOING. BUT I WILL MAKE THE SUMMER MEETING. I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE SAFE FOR MY OWN HEALTH THAT I DON'T MISS MY FIRST ANNIVERSARY. GOING TO A MEETING, SO I THINK I'M GOING TO STAY HOME.>> I THINK YOU MADE THE RIGHT CHOICE.
>> I THINK I MADE THE RIGHT CHOICE ON THAT.
>> SPEAKING OF SERMONS, I DID GO TO THE PARK AND THE RENOVATIONS WERE GORGEOUS. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE, AS WE SAW THE BENCHES THEY PUT SOME MORE BENCHES AROUND THAT CIRCLE. I THINK THAT WILL BE GREAT. IF ALL THE PEOPLE WHO BRAVED THE COLD YESTERDAY AT THE MLK., IT WAS COLD BUT IT WAS A GOOD SHOWING. AND JUST TO SEE THE SMILES ON THE KIDS FACES AND ÚW WAS IN ADDITION TO LAST WEEK, WHERE WE HAD ALL THE MLK ORGANIZATIONS DOING DIFFERENT THINGS, AND THAT WAS WELL ATTENDED. NO PROBLEMS. JUST WELL ATTENDED. LAST, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO THE COMMITTEE AND THE MAYOR'S ATTENTION, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS, BUT WE NEED TO READDRESS THIS PROCEDURE OF THIS ORDINANCE. WE JUST NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT. RESIDENTS ARE STILL CALLING TO REPORT NOISE AND BEING ASKED, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE YOU CALLING? WHY DO YOU CONTINUE TO CALL? SO THAT IS ONE THING. THAT IS A PROBLEM.
THE SECOND THING, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THREE COMPLAINTS WITHIN 24 HOURS, I THINK IT IS, THREE OR FOUR COMPLAINTS WITHIN 24
HOURS, >> I BELIEVE IT IS TWO, BUT I
CAN GIVE YOU THAT ANSWER. >> WHATEVER IT IS, WHATEVER IT IS, IT IS NOT HAPPENING, AND THE PERPETRATORS KIND OF KNOW, SO IF THEY DON'T GET TWO OR THREE, SO WE NEED TO SPEND SOME TIME -- SPEND SOME TIME AND LOOK AT THIS. BECAUSE IT COULD GET OUT OF HAND. IT IS GETTING OUT OF HAND AND RESIDENTS HAVE A RIGHT TO LIVE THEIR LIVES AT CERTAIN TIMES. SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, A FELLOW COMMISSIONER SAID, WE MIGHT NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT SOME OF THESE MINUTES TO SEE WHAT THEY ARE BEING HONOR ROLLS.
NIGHTCLUBS? YOU KNOW, IT IS NOISE THROUGHOUT THE DAY, THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT. IF RESIDENTS ARE DOING WHAT WE ASKED THEM TO DO BY CALLING IN AND THEY ARE BEING TOLD, WHY DO YOU KEEP CALLING FOR THIS, OR, IF IT IS 84 DAY, FOUR -- 24 HOURS, IF THAT'S THE CASE, OR IF THE RESIDENT CALLS, AND THEY ARE BEING CHASTISED FOR CALLING, YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GET THAT SECOND OR THIRD OR WHATEVER IT IS. SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AMONGST ALL OF US, HOW WE COULD ADDRESS THIS, OR FIX THIS ORDINANCE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, IT IS NOT PROTECTING THE RESIDENTS THAT NEED PROTECTION IN CERTAIN PARTS OF OUR CITY, SO, I WANT TO BRING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.
I WANT TO BE THERE, YOU KNOW. I WILL BE THE LAST ONE BEFORE THE MAYOR TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT TO END THE MEETING TODAY.
KNOW, BEGGING FOR SOME TYPE OF HELP THAT THEY CAN JUST HAVE ONE NIGHT OF PEACEFUL SLEEP. YOU KNOW, THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR ME. SO, I'M ASKING US TO PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA OR TALK INDIVIDUALLY OR HOWEVER WE WANT TO DO IT. I MEAN, IN OUR REGULAR MEETINGS WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY. SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE, OR WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT, BECAUSE, AS IT IS SITTING RIGHT NOW, THIS IS NOT HELPING SOME RESIDENTS. SO, WITH THAT, MADAM MAYOR, AGAIN, EVERYBODY THAT NEEDS TO STAY WARM, YOU KNOW, THE SHELTERS ARE OPEN. AND, LET'S JUST CONTINUE .
>> GOOD IDEA TO LOOK AT THAT. AND HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
WE HAD A REPORT FROM STAFF AND MAYBE SOME CREATIVE THINKING ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T SOLVED THAT PROBLEM THERE.
>> WE ARE HIRING OUT THE CONSULTANT. THAT WAS THE FOLLOW-UP TO THE LAST GO AROUND. SO WE ARE GOING TO HIRE A CONSULTANT TO EVALUATE BECAUSE WHEN WE FIXED IT, WE KNEW WE WERE NOT FIXING IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
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>> ADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, JUST BRIEFLY, THE PENALTIES ARE CONTROLLED BY 26-44, SO, THE FIRST CALL IS A WARNING. THE SECOND CALL IS A CIVIL INFRACTION. A THIRD CALL IS A MISDEMEANOR. AND A SUMMONS IS ISSUED -- A DEMEANOR AND A TERRORIST. IT IS ONLY TWO WITHIN THAT 24 HOURS AND THAT IS THE CIVIL INFRACTION. TO GET A PHYSICAL ARREST, WHICH IS A BIG THING TO DO TO SOMEONE, THAT REQUIRES FOUR WITHIN THE
24 HOUR PERIOD. >> AND MADAM ATTORNEY, THE PERPETRATORS, THEY KNOW THIS BY NOW. THEY ARE BEING TOLD, IF WE COME BACK THE SECOND TIME, THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN
POINT >> BUT WHAT IT IS IS NOT WORKING IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. WHAT WE ARE DOING IS NOT WORKING. YEAH. RIGHT. OKAY. YEAH.
>> ALL RIGHT. >> I ALSO WANTED TO SAY THAT CHARLENE IS THE ORGANIZER OF THIS GROUP. SHE PROVIDES THE SUPPLIES AND COORDINATES THE NUMBERS , AND SHE REALLY DOES IT WITH THE NICEST TOUCH BECAUSE YOU CAN WORK AS LONG AS YOU WANT. I WANTED TO BRING SOMETHING TO THE COMMISSIONS ATTENTION. THE FIRE DISTRICT, AND I'M NOT SURE THEY INITIATED IT, BUT I CERTAINLY SUPPORT IT. THERE IS A SYSTEM THAT CAN BE PUT ON TRAFFIC SIGNALS SO THAT THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS WORK IN FAVOR OF EMERGENCY VEHICLES, AND THE COUNTY HAS JUST DONE THAT, AND THEIR TRAFFIC SIGNALS IN PORT ST. LUCIE HAVE DONE IT. I THINK OURS HAVE NOT BECAUSE OF FUNDS.
THIS WOULD BE VERY IMPORTANT FOR OUR FIREFIGHTERS. TO HAVE THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS COOPERATE. I WAS GOING TO BRING IT TO OUR ATTENTION. MS. COX, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE MENTIONED TO MR. ANDREWS IN PASSING. WE CAN TAKE A FEW MINUTES WITH WHERE WE ARE IN THIS PROCESS AND WHAT NEEDS TO
HAPPEN. >> IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD.
>> THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE WORKED WITH. WE HAVE GOTTEN PROPOSALS AND AS YOU INDICATED, IT IS FINANCIALLY A BURDEN TO US. WE CAN BRING THIS BEFORE THE COMMISSION. BUT THE LAST TIME WE LOOKED AT IT, IT WAS LIKE 130, RIGHT IN THAT RANGE.
>> 130,000 POINT >> WE ARE READY TO GO. WE JUST
DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS. >> I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A RENEWED EFFORT TO SEE IF WE COULD TRY TO FIND IT.
>> STRATEGIC PLANNING. >> STRATEGIC PLANNING.
>> YEAH. >> RIGHT. YEAH. RIGHT. I JUST WANT TO BRING IT TO THE COMMISSIONS ATTENTION BECAUSE WE ARE THE LAST JURISDICTION THAT HAS NOT DONE IT. THIS COULD MEAN SAFETY FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
>> , SO I REMEMBER WHEN THIS CAME UP, AND WE LOOKED AT IT.
THIS IS A GOOD UPDATE. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS IS WE NEED TO EXPLORE WITH OUR CONSULTANT AND OUR LOBBYISTS IN TALLAHASSEE BECAUSE THIS DOES FALL UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY. I THINK THAT THEY MAY BE ABLE TO WORK WITH OUR LOCAL DELEGATION IN LIGHT OF THIS. I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE THAT WITH OUR GROUP UP THERE TO HELP BRING SOME FUNDS ON FOR THIS. ESPECIALLY SINCE WE ARE EXPANDING FIRE STATIONS NOW FOR UP TO 20 AND RESPONSE TIMES -- OUR TRAFFIC IS MORE CONGESTED NOW THAN EVER BEFORE. IT WILL SIGNAL THAT ENTER SECTION TO CLEAR A PATH FOR THEM TO GET THROUGH. IT IS NEEDED. WE ARE GETTING
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CONDENSED HERE ON U.S. 1 AND I HAVE SEEN SOME ISSUES IN OUR CITY, AND I THINK WITH OUR DELEGATION, I THINK WE SHOULD ALL HAVE A CONVERSATION TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> I JUST SAW THAT THE COUNTY HAD JUST COMPLETED IT AND IT STARTED ME THINKING THAT -- I REMEMBER YOU SAYING WE HAD ASKED THIS.
>> YEAH POINT >> ONE OF THE CUSHIONS I WOULD HAVE, TECHNICALLY, DO WE HAVE THE LAYOUT MAPPING OF WHAT
SIGNALS THEY WANT SICKNESS? >>
>> YES. WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING THE MAIN CORRIDORS, WHICH WOULD BE U.S. 1, VIRGINIA. DELAWARE.
>> ORANGE. >> AND ORANGE PITTSBURGH WHAT PERCENT OF THAT FALLS INTO THE CRA? I THINK WE NEED TO EXPLORE THAT OPTION. ESPECIALLY WITH INTERSECTIONS THAT ARE IN OUR CRA BOUNDARIES. WE MAY BE ABLE TO FIND SOME FUNDS THERE. AND WE CAN WORK WITH THE OTHERS AND ASK FOR 130. WE MAY HAVE TO ASK FOR WHATEVER WE CAN ESCORT TO COMPLETED. LET'S LOOK AT OUR CRA PERCENTAGE OF THESE STREETS.
>> WE PROBABLY HAD 50%. >> FOR 60,000 IS A LOT BETTER
THAN 30. >> THAT IS WHERE I'M GOING. WE CAN COME UP WITH THE SOLUTION.
>> THANK YOU. SO THAT COMPLETES WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY TONIGHT, SO, UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE, WE ARE GOING TO ADJOURN.
WE WILL BE TURNING OUT
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.