Mar 11, 2025 FPRA Regular Meeting Agenda

[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. IT IS TUESDAY, MARCH 11TH. PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF

AMERICA ALL. >>

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

>> OKAY, FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE FEBRUARY 11TH, 2025 FPRA MEETING.

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> MOVED ON SECOND. CALL THE

ROLL PLEASE. >>

>> MADAM CLERK , HAVE WE BEEN NOTIFIED THAT EITHER OF THESE

BOARD MEMBERS WERE NOT COMING? >> NO MA'AM.

>> AND SO, BEFORE THE END OF THE MEETING, I WANT US TO EXCUSE

THEIR ABSENCES BY THEM. >> I'M EXPECTING THEY WILL COME IN. MAYBE THEY ARE EXPECTING IT TO BE 5:05, PERHAPS. MAYBE MAYBE

THEY DID NOT SPRING FORWARD. >> MAYBE. YOU ARE RIGHT. I AM LOOKING AT THE WRONG CLOCK IN THE OFFICE.

[5. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

>> WE WILL SEE THEM IN ABOUT AN HOUR.

>> OKAY. MAYBE NEXT WE HAVE THE ADDITION AND DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA, ANY CHANGES? IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE CONSENT ITEMS, I COULD NOT FOLLOW THAT RIGHT. ARE THESE ALL SEPARATE APPROVALS, WHEN I CLICK TO REVIEW THEM, I WAS NOT SURE ABOUT IT. I JUST WANTED SOME CLARITY AROUND THE CONSENT ITEMS AND ALL OF THE APPROVALS WE WILL

APPROVE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> THEY ARE ALL SEPARATE.

>> MADAM MAYOR, BEFORE THERE IS A MOTION, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD AN ITEM AS THE FPRA DIRECTOR DISCUSSION.

>> OKAY. OKAY, WITH THAT CHANGE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?

>> WITH THAT NOTED CHANGE AND ADDITION OF FPRA DISCUSSIONS OF

8D, I WILL CALL A MOTION. >> AND A SECOND. THERE IS A MOTION AT A SECOND, CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>>

>> WE HAVE NO SIGN-UPS. THIS IS A CHANCE FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. ON FPRA ITEMS. SEEING NO MOVEMENT, WE WILL MOVE ON.

>> NEXT WE HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>> THE CONSENT AGENDA, IS THERE ANY ITEM THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO

PULL? >> MADAM MAYOR, MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON THE WHOLE ENTIRE CONSENT AGENDA. IT MAY GO AWAY AFTER I UNDERSTAND B, C, D, E.

>> HOW ABOUT WE PULL THEM AND MOVE FOR APPROVAL ON A.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION ON A. I WOULD LIKE TO PULL THE WHOLE

[a. Approval of the amended interlocal agreement for the Downtown Fort Pierce Smart City Initiative. ]

CONSENT AGENDA. >> ALL RIGHT, WE WILL START WITH

THE WHOLE CONSENT AGENDA. >> CONSENT AGENDA ITEM SEVEN A , APPROVAL OF THE AMENDED INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR THE DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE SMART CITY INITIATIVE.

>> I HAVE A GENERAL QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS WORKING ON THIS, THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WE HAVE ON THE SMART CITY INITIATIVE. I LOOKED AT THE MAP, WE ARE THE LANDLORD TENANT'S AND I WAS KIND OF CONCERNED, THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE SMART CITY INITIATIVE, THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT LEFT, I WANT TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING, WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO GET US ALL THE WAY THERE? IF THERE IS SOMETHING BLOCKING THAT I DID NOT KNOW, THIS WILL BRING WI-FI TO BUILDINGS SO THAT PEOPLE COME THERE, WHATEVER EVENTS WILL BE GOING ON, THEY CAN USE THE

WI-FI. >> WE APPROVED THIS YESTERDAY, THE OTHER DAY. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, YOU MAY KNOW, I SEE SOMEONE FROM FP WAY IN THE AUDIENCE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU

WANT TO CHIME IN. >> WHY CAN WE NOT GO ALL THE WAY

TO THE NORTHERN SHORE? >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, MADAM

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TRIGGERED THE THOUGHT. >> YEAH, I WOULD LIKE FOR US, BECAUSE IT IS A CITY-OWNED PROPERTY, WE HAVE CITY EVENTS THERE, IF WE ARE SPENDING THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY AND THIS ALLOCATION, IT MAKES SENSE TO ME TO INCLUDE THIS. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WILL CUT IT OFF, WI-FI DOES TRAVEL. I SAW THE MAP, I WAS CONCERNED WE DID NOT INCLUDE THAT.

>> MY MEMORY WAS JUST FROM LAST WEEK. THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT GOING FURTHER WEST. OTHER PEOPLE WANTED OTHER KINDS OF EXTENSIONS TOO. I THINK SOMEBODY IN THE AUDIENCE IS FROM THE FPUA.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. >> IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE

RECORD. >> FORT PIERCE OPERATING AUTHORITY. THAT IS WHERE THE COORDINATION ENDED. THERE IS NOTHING OPERATIONALLY THAT PREVENTS US FROM GOING TO THE YACHT CLUB. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I TEXTED AND WAS TOLD, NO

PROBLEM. THERE IS NO ISSUE. >> I JUST THINK IT SHOULD MAKE

SENSE. >> THANK YOU. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING, RIGHT. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M THINKING IN THAT EVENT. HOW DO WE CORRECT THAT? DO WE DIRECT STAFF?

>> I THINK THEY GOT THE MESSAGE. WE WILL HAVE TO CHANGE THE INTERLOCAL, THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO US, IS THAT RIGHT,

MR. JOHNSON? >> MADAM CHAIR, YES, WE WILL DO ANOTHER AMENDMENT TO EXPAND THE BOUNDARIES EVEN FURTHER. THERE MIGHT BE A FURTHER EXPANSION COMING. WE WILL BRING THAT BACK WITH ANOTHER AMENDMENT TO ADD ADDITIONAL SERVICE AREAS.

>> I MOVE APPROVAL OF CONSENT ITEM A.

>> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >>

[b. Approval of the Grant Agreement for Commercial Facade Improvement 200 N US Hwy 1]

[c. Approval of the Grant Agreement for Commercial Facade Improvement 2912 Orange Avenue ]

[d. Approval of the Grant Agreement for Commercial Facade Improvement 305 S 7th St]

[e. Approval of the Grant Agreement for Commercial Facade Improvement 110 S Ocean Dr]

>> MADAM CHAIR, WHEN I WENT TO CLICK INDIVIDUALLY ON EACH OF THESE ITEMS, I FELT I WAS GETTING THE SAME PRESENTATION BEFORE. I WAS A LITTLE UNCLEAR AS TO REALLY DWELLING DOWN. I SAW THE LIST THAT WAS IN THE ACTUAL VALUATION, THERE WERE FOUR. THERE WAS AWARDING THE COMMERCIAL FACADE EVENT WHICH IS THE BUILDING, I THINK I SAW THAT CORRECTLY. IT JUST DID NOT LINE UP TO ME. I KEPT SEEING THE SAME LEAD-IN THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS. HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IS COMPARED TO WHAT I

SAW. IT HAS BEEN A LONG DAY. >> YOU DID. MAYOR, CHAIRWOMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, YES, YOU ARE CORRECT. I CREATED ONE PRESENTATION FOR THE FOUR DIFFERENT AWARDS. THEY ARE TO BE APPROVED SEPARATELY, REVIEWED BY THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE AND ADVISORY COMMITTEE AS WELL. THEY WERE EACH REVIEWED SEPARATELY.

THEY WERE NOT COMPETING AGAINST EACH OTHER, THEY WERE AWARDED BASED ON THEIR SUBMITTAL OF THEIR APPLICATION.

>> WHAT I SAW, THE EVALUATION OF ONE GROUP , AND THEN I DID NOT SEE THE REST OF THE BATCHING OF THE EVALUATIONS.

>> I DID NOT LOOK AT THE EVALUATIONS, I LOOKED AT THE

APPLICATIONS. >> I DO LOOK AT THE EVALUATIONS.

IN ONE OF THE EVALUATION THAT WAS ATTACHED, THE AWARDEE THAT WON HAD A LOWER SCORE THAN THE OTHERS, I WANTED TO GET INTO THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT. THAT IS WHY I ALWAYS LOOK AT

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NOT MISS IT. >> NO.

>> COMMITTEE, I HAVE SOME CHALLENGE WITH THIS.

>> I CAN OPEN THE PRESENTATION AND GO THROUGH THAT, IF YOU

WOULD LIKE. >> I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS A GOOD UTILIZATION OF OUR TIME TODAY.

>> DO YOU HAVE CHALLENGE WITH THE SCORING OR THE WAY IT IS

PRESENTED? >> THE WAY IT IS PRESENTED. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE SCORING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS FOR THE REST OF US HERE. THE ONE THAT WAS PUT IN THE EXAMPLE THAT WAS ATTACHED, THAT WAS EVALUATED, HOLD ON. EVALUATED IN THE PRESENTATION WITH THE EVALUATION CRITERIA, IT LOOKED AT FOUR PROPERTIES THAT WERE SUBMITTED HERE. PEACOCK TEMPLE, INLET BEACH RESORT AND SOUTHERN COMFORT HEALTH AND THAT WAS IT.

>> THOSE WERE ALL AWARDED. >> THEY WERE RECOMMENDED FOR

AWARD. RIGHT. >> WERE THERE ANY OTHER

APPLICATIONS? THESE 48. >> THE GROUPING IN WHICH THEY WERE COMPARED TO PRIOR TO THIS, WE ARE NOT PRIVY TO THAT EVALUATION PROCESS. FOR INSTANCE, THEY WERE IN A TOTALLY DIFFERENT FACADE EVALUATION PROCESS.

>> MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE FPRA BOARD, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO.

YOU ARE RECALLING PREVIOUS PROCESSES WHERE WE WERE COMPARING THEM AGAINST EACH OTHER. WE WOULD HAVE IT OPEN FOR A PERIOD OF TIME WITH AN APPLICATION PROCESS OPEN FOR 30 DAYS. OF THE 50 APPLICATIONS WE GOT, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE TOP FIVE GOT THESE. WE HAVE CHANGED THE PROCESS IN HOPES OF GETTING MORE APPLICATIONS BECAUSE WE HAVE BUDGETED $300,000 FOR THIS PROGRAM AND WE WANT PEOPLE TO APPLY. WE LEFT IT OPEN ON A RECURRING AND ONGOING BASIS. WE ARE CHANGING THAT BACK BECAUSE THAT DID NOT REALLY WORK. WE ARE IN THAT PROCESS AND AT A SUBSEQUENT MEETING YOU WILL HAVE A MEETING TO FORMALIZE THESE MEETINGS AND PROCEDURES IN REGARD TO ALL GRANT PROGRAMS. THERE IS ONE TONIGHT. THAT BEING SAID, THESE FOLKS APPLIED AND WE WANT TO GET THEM MOVING THROUGH THE PROCESS. WE EVALUATED THEM, YOU ARE CORRECT, THERE ARE SOME THAT WERE HIGHER THAN OTHERS. WE BROUGHT THEM TO THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THEY RECOMMENDED THAT WE WORD ALL FOUR. WE HAVE FUNDING TO AWARD ALL FOUR OR EVEN MORE THAN THAT. WE ONLY RECEIVED FOUR IN THIS PERIOD OF TIME AND THEY RECOMMENDED AWARD, WE WILL DO BETTER NEXT TIME FOR THE PRESENTATION. HAVING THEM TOGETHER CAN BE CONFUSING. WHERE WE ARE TODAY, FOUR SEPARATE GRANT AGREEMENTS FOR APPROVAL FOR THE FACADE GRANT. THEY ALL RANGE IN VALUES, ONE THAT IS

2000, ONE THAT IS 19,000. >> RIGHT. I WAS USED TO IT BEING A COMPETITION. WHEN I SAW THIS, HOW DID THIS PERSON GET WARDED WHEN THE SCORE WAS LOWER, I THOUGHT THEY WERE COMPETING FOR

THE MONEY. >> I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND, MOVING FORWARD IN THE NEXT RESOLUTION, STAFF WILL NOT BE EVALUATING THEM, THEY WILL GO TO THE CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE RECOMMENDATION AND EVALUATION, THESE ARE FOUR THAT WERE LEFT IN

THE PROCESS. >> MY NEXT QUESTION, THESE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, THIS WAS WHAT WE HAD WITH COMMERCIAL FACADE GRANTS? THERE WAS NO COMPETITION?

>> TO THAT POINT, OPENING IT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME WILL GIVE A MORE SENSE OF URGENCY, THE DEADLINE IS APPROACHING. I CAN APPLY ANOTHER TIME, YOU LOSE THE PIZZAZZ AND THE SENSE OF URGENCY

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GO BACK TO THAT. >> MY LAST COMMENT, WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS AND WHAT WAS PROPOSED AND I WENT THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE, WHAT WE IDENTIFIED AS THE ORIGINAL MISSION OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO, FACADE, STREET FACING, I SAW AWARDEES IN THIS AREA THAT I'M NOT SURE WILL RECEIVE THE IMPACT OF THE FACADE. I THOUGHT FOR PART OF IT THEY WERE DOING THEIR ROOF, I'M NOT SURE IF I WILL SEE THAT, I WILL NOT BE LOOKING FOR IT. I AM CONCERNED, ON WHAT I THOUGHT OUR MISSION WAS WHEN HE CAME TO FACADE AND BLIGHT AND ADDRESSING THAT AND WHAT I HAVE SEEN BEING AWARDED HERE IN THIS BATCH OF THINGS. I AM CONCERNED.

>> YES SIR, UNDERSTOOD. >> I'M NOT COMFORTABLE, I WILL TELL YOU THAT, I AM CHALLENGED BY IT. I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION OF WHAT OUR TRUE MISSION IS HERE.

>> WE HAVE HAD THIS ONCE BEFORE. WE WERE NOT SURE IF THIS WAS REALLY A FACADE OR NOT. AND SO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF CRITERIA WHEN YOU APPLY FOR A FACADE GRANT, YOU SAY, THIS IS

WHAT A FACADE IS? >> YES, WE HAVE IMPROVEMENTS, IN THE PROGRAM OVERVIEW, IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE VISIBLE FROM THE STREET, AS LONG AS THEY MEET THEM, WE WERE HOPEFUL WE WOULD HAVE A LEVEL OF RESPONSE WHERE IT WOULD BE MORE COMPETITIVE IN NATURE, NOW WE ARE TO THE POINT, HEY, THEY WANT TO INVEST IN THEIR BUILDING, HERE WE ARE. THIS IS WHY WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS, YOU ALL MADE VERY VALID POINTS. THROUGH THE VALUATION OF WHAT IS COMING BEFORE YOU, ULTIMATELY, TO YOUR POINT, WHAT IS THE MISSION? ELIMINATE SLUM AND BLIGHT. AND THE CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEE RECOMMEND THAT ALL FOR RECEIVING AND THEY ARE ACHIEVING THAT MISSION. YES SIR.

>> COMMITTEE, WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS, AND I RODE BY ONE OF THESE PROPERTIES, I HAD MAJOR CONCERN ABOUT THIS. IN LIGHT OF HAVING TWO MISSING COMMISSIONERS TODAY, THEY WERE PART OF THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE, I'M NOT SAYING NO, I THINK WE HAVE TO TABLE THIS, I WANT ANOTHER LOOK AT THIS. I AM CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT I SAW IN SOME OF THESE PROJECTS AND HOW DOES THAT ADDRESS THIS WHOLE ISSUE? NOT ONLY ARE LEVEL BUT THERE WERE PIECES THAT CONCERNED ME. I AM THE FIRST ONE THAT WANTS TO CLEANUP BLIGHT HERE. I WORKED TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO SOMETHING AS SIGNIFICANT WHAT THESE GUYS ARE DOING. THE EXAMPLE THAT YOU SHOWED, WHEN SOMEONE USED THE FACADE GRANT TO PUT OUT A NEW SIGN, IS THAT THE ONE I'M THINKING ABOUT? NEVERMIND. I HAVE SEEN EXAMPLES OF COMMERCIAL FACADE THAT LOOK ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL. THAT IS WHERE I'M

COMING FROM RIGHT NOW. >> THEY MET THE CRITERIA.

ANYWAY, COMMISSIONER TAYLOR, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS?

>> YOU BRING UP SOME GOOD POINTS. YEAH, ONCE WE GET TO WHERE WE HAVE SPECIFIC GUIDELINES OR WHATEVER, THEY ARE IN HERE. THE REAL THING WAS THE APPLICATION. I DON'T THINK THE PROPOSING IS DID ANYTHING WRONG OR ANYTHING THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE ÚBEEN APPROVED OR ANYTHING, ROOFING CAN BE A PART OF ANYBODY'S FACADE. I DID NOT DRIVE BY LIKE COMMISSIONER JOHNSON DID. WE GOT THE MONEY AND THE APPLICATIONS, LET'S GET THIS STUFF DONE. THIS IS NOT A HUGE DRAW FROM THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE HAVE FOR THESE GRANTS. THESE ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO APPLIED. THE SCORING KIND OF FELT WEIRD. I UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS HAPPENING. I'VE NOT SEEN ANY OF THE ONES BEFORE.

>> MAYBE STAFF CAN WORK ON THE REQUIREMENTS GOING FORWARD. AND RUN IT BY US. MAYBE YOU CAN GET TO A LEVEL OF COMFORT. MAYBE IT IS A FACADE GRANT. MAYBE IT SHOULD BE A FRONT FACING IMPROVEMENT GRANT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CAN CALL IT.

>> I'M CLEAR ON WHAT A FACADE IS. I EXAMPLES AND USE OF THIS. THIS IS A REIMBURSABLE GRANT. THEY WILL HAVE TO INITIALLY SPEND THE MONEY. I ON WHAT --

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>> IN THIS NEW PROCESS, HOW IS THE SCORING ACTUALLY USED? A LEVEL, IF THEY DID NOT REACH THE MINIMUM SCORING, THEY WERE TOSSED OUT? OF 60 MINIMUM. CORRECT? THAT IS HOW THE EXISTING PROGRAM WAS. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE BROUGHT IT TO THE CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND AT THAT POINT THEY RECOMMENDED ALL OF THEM WHETHER THEY MET THE MINIMUM CRITERIA OR NOT. MOVING FORWARD, THE MINIMUM THRESHOLD, WE WILL TIGHTEN UP WHAT FACADE GRANTS MEAN. WE ARE LIKE, CAN YOU DO SEVERAL THINGS? LET'S NOT JUST PAINT AND DO A ROOF, DO THIS AND A WINDOW, WE CAN TIGHTEN THAT UP THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND THROUGH THE ASKING FOR.

>> THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS YOU CAN DO, THESE PROJECTS THAT GUYS HAVE TAKEN ON. IT'S GOING TO LOOK GREAT. WE ARE GETTING, I GOT THIS, I WENT TO A DOWNTOWN BUSINESS AND A LOT OF THEM ARE HAVING CONCERNS ABOUT SMALL BUSINESS SUPPORT.

THEY MAY NOT OWN THEM, THAT IS THE OTHER ISSUE, THEY MIGHT BE TENANTS. WE WILL CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET IT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE TALKING TO THOSE TENANTS THAT OWN THE BUILDINGS TO APPLY TO SOME OF THIS STUFF.

>> RIGHT. AM COMFORTABLE NOW.

>> ARE TO MAKE THESE AS ONE APPROVAL? SHOULD WE DO

THEM ONE AT A TIME? >> YOU CAN DO THEM ALL AT ONCE AS LONG AS THEY ARE ANNOUNCED. I THINK ONLY 7B WAS CALLED. IF WE CAN HAVE MADAME CLERK CALLED THE OTHER THREE? WE WILL DO 7B, C, D, IMPROVEMENTS FOR U.S. HIGHWAY 1 2912 ORANGE AVENUE AND 110

SOUTH OCEAN DRIVE. >> MADAM I MOVE APPROVAL

[a. FPRA Resolution 25-03 formally establishing the Commercial Sign Grant Program and corresponding guidelines.]

>> A A SECOND, PLEASE CALL

>> HAVE FPRA RESOLUTION 25-03 FORMALLY ESTABLISHING THE COMMERCIAL SIGN CORRESPONDING G THEY ARE TO -- REPEALING ALL RESOLUTIONS AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> MR. JOHNSON? >> MS. GARCIA?

>> IT IS YOUR SHOW AGAIN. >> AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO PRESENT THIS AFTERNOON. WANT TO ESTABLISH THE SIGN GRANT PROGRAM TO ENSURE THE SUCCESFPR PRIVATE SECTOR INVESTMENT IN THE CRA AND SUPPORTING SMALL BUSINESS AND STORE BUSINESS ACTIVITY WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT THE AREA. THE THIS AREA IS TO ENCOURAGE THE PROPERTY OWNERS

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SINCE 2023 WHEN WE STARTED THE PROGRAM, WE HAVE REIMBURSED 15 APPLICATIONS TOTALING $60,000 IN FUNDING AND HAVE ABOUT $40,000 REMAINING. INCLUDING PROJECTS WE HAVE AWARDED, A 25 NORTH UNION DRIVE AT CAPTAIN GALLI RESTAURANT AND 117 NORTH FIFTH STREET, OFFICE SUITES. THE APPLICATION PROCESS FOR THE PROGRAM, YOU WILL REMAIN OPEN UNTIL ALL THE FUNDS ARE DEPLETED, MUST SUBMIT THE APPLICATION, AND A PHOTO OF THE PROPERTY, A SKETCH OF THE PROPOSED SIGN, WRITTEN ESTIMATE AND PLANNING APPROVAL. APPLICATIONS WILL BE PRESENTED TO ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR REVIEW EVERY 30 DAYS AND THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS WILL COME FORWARD TO YOU. AND WE WILL EXECUTE THE GRANT AGREEMENTS. THE OUTREACH WE HAVE DONE WITH OF OUR PROGRAMS ARE POSTING ON THE CITY AND PRE WEBSITES, SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS AND DISTRIBUTION WITH LOCAL BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONS AND WE HAVE DONE THE FPUA BILL INSERTS AS WELL.

AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING THIS PROGRAM FOR STAFF.

>> JUST A COMMENT. I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT, I SAW THE IMPROVEMENT IN SIGNS. SO, THE PRESENTATION WAS UP TO 50, WE ONLY HAVE 40,000 LEFT IN THERE? WE WILL GO UP TO 40,000 WITH WHATEVER WE

HAVE THERE? >> OKAY.

>> THE CRITERIA, WE ARE HAPPY WITH THE CRITERIA?

>> YEAH. THESE WILL HAVE A PROB >> WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION WRITTEN FROM PROPOSERS ABOUT THEIR ABILITY TO PAY FOR IT BEFOREHAND AND HAVE A REIMBURSABLE?

>> YES, WE HAVE HAD THAT DISCUSSION, SOME BUSINESS OWNERS DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PUT UP FRONT. WE HAVE LOOKED AT ALTERNATIVE METHODS TO PAY. THIS ONE WAS THE MOST FEASIBLE. WE HAVE LOOKED AT OTHER OPTIONS AS WELL.

>> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THAT? >> WE WERE LOOKING AT PAYING THE CONTRACTORS DIRECTLY SO THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO PUT THE FUNDS UP FRONT. WE WERE WORKING WITH THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT TO ESTABLISH A LIST OF CONTRACTORS THAT THE APPLICANTS WOULD SELECT FROM. WE ARE WORKING WITH PURCHASING TO LOOK AT THAT

ALTERNATIVE OPTION. >> OKAY, AS LONG AS IT IS A REAL ESTIMATE AND WHAT CHANGES ARE GOING TO BE. SOME OF THESE ARE REALLY SIMPLE. THEY MAY NOT HAVE THE CAPITAL TO PUT FORWARD AND GET IT DONE. WE WANT THEM TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE GRANT BECAUSE IT IS REIMBURSED. YEAH, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOME NEW THOUGHTS AND OTHER OPTIONS FOR THEM TO DO THAT. THIS IS WHAT THE INVOICE IS GOING TO BE. FIGURING OUT HOW WE CAN PAY THEM DIRECTLY. MARGINS ARE TIGHT IN RESTAURANTS. THEY DON'T HAVE $5000 LAYING AROUND. I WANTED TO BE USED, OBVIOUSLY.

>> WE ARE WORKING WITH THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT TO CREATE

THAT. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> SO WE NEED A MOTION FOR THIS UNLESS THERE ARE ANY MORE

QUESTIONS. >> MADAM MAYOR, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 25-03. TO CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[b. Discussion regarding three (3) CRA Advisory Committee Recommendations]

>> MS. DEL GATO WILL PRESENT THIS DISCUSSION.

>> WELCOME. MR. THOMPSON. >> GOOD EVENING. PHIL THOMPSON, I AM THE CHAIR OF THE CRA IN FORT PIERCE. OUR COMMITTEE WOULD

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IT WAS A STRUCTURE THAT WAS VACANT FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS, SINCE 2004. WITH THE HELP OF CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND A LITTLE INPUT FROM THE ST. LUCIE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND FIRE DISTRICT, WE WERE ABLE TO PUSH THE OWNERS AND MANDATE THEM TO PULL PERMITS FOR DEMOLITION AND DEMOLISH THE HOUSE AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE WITH ZERO COST TO FORT PIERCE. THIS IS A GOOD TEMPLATE FOR US TO USE. I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS NOT BEEN USED IN A LONG TIME. WE HAVE ASSEMBLED AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL , ABOUT NINE PROPERTIES NOW THAT EVERYONE PASSES ON A DAILY BASIS, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, CRA. WE HAVE A LIST, I WILL NOT DISCLOSE THAT BECAUSE I DO NOT KNOW IF I AM AT LIBERTY TO. WE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THESE PROPERTIES TO THE FORT PIERCE REDEVELOPMENT AND START THE PROCESS. JUST GOING THROUGH THE MOTIONS ON A PARTICULAR CASE WE DISCUSSED ON HUTCHISON ISLAND. CODE ENFORCEMENT IN ALL FAIRNESS TO THEM, THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO WALK ONTO THE PROPERTY, THEY TAKE PICTURES, AND THEN IT GOES TO THE MAGISTRATE COURT AND IT IS ANOTHER 60 DAYS AT THE MAGISTRATE COURT AND GOES ON AND ON. THEY PUT TWO STRIPS OF PAINT ON IT AND IT IS IN COMPLIANCE AND IT GOES ON AND ON. ST. LUCIE FIRE DISTRICT FROM WHAT I'M TOLD BY THEM HAS NO JURISDICTION ON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, ONLY COMMERCIAL. THEY HAVE NO JURISDICTION IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE. IT WOUND UP BETWEEN THE ADMINISTRATION AND BUILDING DEPARTMENT WORKING WITH US. WE WERE ABLE TO MANDATE THAT THEY REMOVE THE STRUCTURE AT ZERO EXPENSE TO THE CITY. INSTEAD OF A BLIGHTED HOUSE THAT WAS CREATING A LOT OF ISSUES IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, WE HAVE A VACANT LOT THAT WILL STAY VACANT OR WILL BE A NEW STRUCTURE. AND IT WILL STIMULATE OTHER PROPERTIES TO BE BUILT AROUND IT. SO, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS LEGISLATION DRAFTED AND HAVE IT PUT INTO LAW SO THAT ALL OF THESE BODIES THAT WE HAVE ACTING CAN ACTUALLY DO THEIR JOB. I THINK AT THIS POINT, THEY ONLY HAVE SO MUCH JURISDICTION AND IN FAIRNESS TO THEM, THEY CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH. POSSIBLY, IF YOU CAN CHANGE THE LEGISLATION TO GIVE THEM A BROADER STROKE AND EMPOWER THEM TO DO THESE THINGS, I THINK THAT FORT PIERCE WILL BE A BETTER PLACE. IF YOU DRIVE THROUGH HIBISCUS PARK, IT IS A FANTASTIC PLACE AND YOU SEE NICE HOUSE, NICE HOUSE AND THEN A HOUSE THAT HAS BEEN SITTING THERE FOR 20 YEARS. NICE HOUSE, NICE HOUSE, A HOUSE THAT HAS BEEN SITTING THERE FOR 20 YEARS IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE PEOPLE WHO TAKE CARE OF THEIR PROPERTIES. SO, WITHOUT MENTIONING ANY SPECIFIC PROPERTIES, WE WOULD LIKE FORT PIERCE REDEVELOPMENT TO PUT THIS INTO LAW AND MOVING FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN BEAUTIFY THE CITY WHICH IS OUR MAIN OBJECTIVE FOR

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THE CRA. >> QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? SO, MAYBE STAFF CAN HELP ME, WHAT IS THE PROCESS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW IN ORDER TO GET TO DEMOLITION IS QUITE A LONG PROCESS, IS THAT CORRECT, MR. JOHNSON OR MS. HEDGES? WE USUALLY DO THAT THROUGH CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE. RIGHT NOW, I AM AGREEING WITH YOU, IT IS A LONG

PROCESS TO GET TO THAT POINT. >> MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THERE IS A PROCESS THAT ALREADY EXIST. I WAS LOOKING, I BELIEVE WE PASSED A RESOLUTION RATHER RECENTLY RELATED TO THE DEMOLITION PROCESS. THE PROCESS DOES ALREADY EXIST, THERE IS A DUE PROCESS ISSUE THAT ALREADY EXISTS. WE CANNOT JUST GO AROUND KNOCKING DOWN PEOPLE'S BUILDINGS. IT DOES TAKE A WHILE BECAUSE THE LAW REQUIRES DUE PROCESS WHEN YOU ARE DEMOLISHING SOMEONE'S PROPERTY. SO WE HAVE A PROCESS THAT ALREADY EXISTS. I AM NOT SURE WHAT THE CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO SEE DONE DIFFERENTLY IN EXISTENCE, WE ALREADY HAVE THIS

PROCESS THAT EXISTS. >> THEY WANTED TO BE A FIVE-YEAR DEADLINE. I THINK I KNOW THE SITUATION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE 20 YEARS, ET CETERA. SOMETIMES THINGS GO ON AND ON. WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT THEY BECOME COMPLIANT BECAUSE THEY DO SOMETHING MINIMAL. AND THEN IT JUST GOES ON AND ON. THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

>> WE BELIEVE THAT IF IT IS DEEMED AN UNSAFE STRUCTURE AND AS A MATTER OF HEALTH AND SAFETY, AT THAT POINT, THEY WOULD BE MANDATED TO REMOVE IT. THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE CANNOT SEEM TO GET THE STRUCTURAL EYE ON IT TO SAY, THIS IS AN UNSAFE STRUCTURE, IT NEEDS TO COME DOWN. WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, IN THE FIRST ISSUE, WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WHERE IT IS THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. LOOK, WE DON'T WANT TO BECOME A DEMOLITION COMPANY.

>> WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY. >> I UNDERSTAND. WE HAVE ENOUGH THINGS TO WORRY ABOUT. PEOPLE SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN ISSUES. THE WAY TO GET IT DONE, IF IT IS AN UNSAFE STRUCTURE , IT WILL HAVE TO BE MANDATED TO COME DOWN. IF WE JUST LOOK AT IT FROM THE STREET, WE WILL PUT A LITTLE PAINT ON THE WINDOWS AND IT'S GOOD, NOBODY KNOWS IF IT IS A SAFE STRUCTURE OR NOT. THAT IS WHERE WE ARE GETTING LOST IN THE

CURRENT LEGISLATION. >> MADAM CHAIR, BECAUSE OF THE EXAMPLE USED OF THIS, WE CAME IN AND FIND THAT UP IN THE NEXT SET OF ORDINANCES TO PUT IN A PROCESS, WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE OUTSIDE COUNSEL THAT HANDLES THIS AND TAKES IT THROUGH THE MAGISTRATE, IF I REMEMBER. AM I RIGHT ON THAT ONE?

>> MADAM CHAIR, WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO IS THE FORECLOSURE

PROCESS. >> THE STRUCTURES THAT COULD BE -- MAYBE THERE IS A STRUCTURE PROCESS THAT ALREADY EXISTS. WE ARE MIXING TWO DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS AND ISSUING FINES ON THE PROPERTY AND THAT WILL GO THROUGH CODE VIOLATIONS AND THERE IS A PROCESS FOR UNSAFE STRUCTURES, WE ALREADY HAVE THAT IN PLACE, THERE ARE CERTAIN COMMISSION APPROVALS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR UNSAFE STRUCTURES AS WELL AND THEY DO GET PASSED

ON TO THE OWNER OF THE HOME. >> WHAT TRIGGERS THE ABILITY FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO COME IN AND SAY THIS IS AN UNSAFE

STRUCTURE? >> TO GIVE YOU THE EXACT CRITERIA OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I COULD NOT GIVE IT TO YOU.

>> I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT.

>> THAT SHOULD BE A WORKSHOP TOPIC. THE PROCESS STARTS ONE WAY BECAUSE OF A COMPLAINT, CODE ENFORCEMENT, IT WAS THAT PROCESS. AFTER THAT, YOU MAY DEEM IT UNSAFE, IT IS IN THE LEGAL SYSTEM AT THAT POINT. THAT IS WHERE I THINK THE CONFUSION

IS COMING. >> THIS MAY REQUIRE A WHOLE LOT MORE DISCUSSION. YOU'RE BRINGING IT TO US AND SAYING, PLEASE DISCUSS IT AND LOOK INTO IT.

>> WHAT WAS TOLD TO ME BY ST. LUCIE FIRE DISTRICT, THEY HAVE JURISDICTION ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, RESIDENTIAL, THEY CANNOT TALK ABOUT. YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD,

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NEXT MEETING, EMAIL THE SHERIFF AND THE ADDRESSES YOU SEE ON A CONSTANT BASIS I HAVE BEEN SEEING FOR THE LAST FIVE OR 10 YEARS. THE LIST CAME PRETTY QUICK.

>> NOT ONLY DO WE ALL WANT THAT. THEY ARE UNSIGHTLY AND THEY CAN ATTRACT SQUATTERS . RIGHT. RIGHT. WE ARE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAME THING. WE JUST NEED TO HAVE A PROCESS THAT PROTECTS THE PROPERTY OWNER AND PROTECTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE CITY. I THINK THAT IS A TALL ORDER. YEAH.

>> I KNOW THAT EVERYONE FEELS THE SAME WAY, IS A NECESSARY ITEM. IT IS NOT JUST US. SHARON DID SOME INVESTIGATING OF THE TOWNSHIPS IN LAUDERDALE AND WEST TOWNSHIP, THEY HAVE THE SAME ISSUES. THEY HAVE A LAME BANK SYSTEM. IT IS ANOTHER THING TO SET UP, IF WE DO DEMO SOME HOUSES AND TAKE AS A LAND BANK AND BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THOSE PARTICULAR PROPERTIES THAT WE DEMO AND TAKE BACK INTO THE LAND BANK AND WE SELL IT TO DEVELOPERS OR HOMEOWNERS THAT WANT TO BUILD ON THE BLOCK AND IT IS ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS A NEW HOUSE AND IT IS HOUSING FOR PEOPLE INSTEAD OF BEING AN EYESORE. I KNOW IT IS A TALL ORDER. I UNDERSTAND THAT. IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME. AS SOON

AS WE GET STARTED -- >> I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I COULD GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF ADDRESSES MYSELF. AND SO I KNOW IT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST WHERE OWNERS HAVE LET IT DETERIORATE. THEY HAVE LET IT DETERIORATE.

>> IT IS NOT THE VACANCY THAT MAKES IT INAPPROPRIATE, IT IS THE UPKEEP OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF. THIS COMES BACK TO A TOPIC WE HAD DURING STRATEGIC PLANNING ABOUT OUR OWN CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS AND HOW IT CAN BE ESCALATED AND THE FINE IS ONLY $50. WHAT IS THE MOTIVATION? IT WAS MAXED OUT. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE NUMBER WAS. IT WAS WAY TOO LONG. WE ARE NOT PUTTING ENOUGH TEETH IN CODE ENFORCEMENT ITSELF TO GET PEOPLE TO CLEAN UP THE PROPERTIES. WE HAVE TO GET INTO THE DEMOLITION PROCESS. IT WAS SAID DURING THE MEETING. HE WILL GET A CODE ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINT THAT GOES TO NUMBER ONE PRIORITY AND IT WAS BEFORE HE WAS ELECTED, IT JUST SITS THERE BECAUSE NOBODY DOES ANYTHING ABOUT IT. IT GOES DOWN TO STAFFING PROBLEMS AND OTHER PROBLEMS. I THINK THE DISCONNECT AND WHERE ARE JURISDICTION WOULD BE IS THROUGH CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCEDURES AND POLICIES. I THINK WE HAVE IDENTIFIED AS A STRATEGIC PLAN ITEM THIS YEAR TO COMPLETELY REDO AND MAKE BETTER AND MAKE MORE EFFECTIVE. SOMETHING IS NOT WORKING.

>> I THINK WE DID, EXACTLY RIGHT, WE ARE ALREADY ON TOP OF

THIS. >> MADAM CHAIR, I DID FIND THE ORDINANCE THAT WE RECENTL UPDATED THAT WAS DONE IN 2024.

THE CODE SECTION WHERE THIS PROCESS IS EXPLAINED IS CODE SECTION 24-107 WHICH OUTLINES THE ENTIRE PROCESS FOR WHEN YOU HAVE NUISANCE ABATEMENT, IS WHAT IT IS UNDER, THERE IS A PROCESS BY WHICH THE COMMISSION AUTHORIZES REMOVAL OF A STRUCTURE WHICH WOULD BE DEMOLITION WHEN IT IS UNSAFE, WHEN IT IS A MENACE TO BUSINESS HEALTH OR SAFETY, IT OUTLINES THAT ENTIRE PROCESS IN THE CODE.

>> PERHAPS WHAT WE CAN DO IS WORKSHOP THAT WITH WHAT WE HAVE

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>> FIRST, MY APOLOGIES, YES, TODAY'S MEETING RAN LONG AND I HAD TO CANCEL MY ONCOLOGIST MEETING.

>> THAT IS IMPORTANT. >> YOU WOULD THINK. I WILL BE LATE TODAY AND TOMORROW. I AM FAMILIAR WITH THIS ISSUE. MY REPRESENTATIVE ON THE CRA HAS BROUGHT THIS TO ME TO DISCUSS SPECIFICALLY. I HAVE CONCERNS ON MULTIPLE LEVELS IF WE WILL WORKSHOP THIS, THAT IS THE APPROPRIATE FORM FOR ME TO GET INTO THE DISCUSSION TODAY. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORK SHOPPING. YES, IT IS A GOOD

APPROACH. >> THANK YOU TO THE CRA BOARD FOR BEING SO PROACTIVE IN LOOKING AT THESE PROBLEMS AND BRING THEM ALL TO OUR ATTENTION. IT IS NICE TO SEE A PROACTIVE

BOARD BRINGING THINGS TO US. >> I KNOW IT IS UNPOPULAR, WE RELY ON YOU GUYS. IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE

ADDRESSED. >> THE SECOND ITEM WE ARE REQUESTING IS IN ORDER TO MINIMIZE THE BLIGHT, THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS THAT THE FPRA BUDGET BE CHANGE FOR RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. AGAIN, IT IS A MONEY ISSUE, AND UNPOPULAR ISSUE, HOWEVER, WE DO GIVE GRANTS FOR CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE POSITIVE. SIGNS, PAINTING, THAT HAS BEEN A GREAT PROGRAM. WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HAVE SOME DEMOLITION MONEY SO THAT WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, IF IT TAKES TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS WERE THE OWNER JUST DISAPPEARS AND THEY ARE NOT RESPONDING AND IT IS AN UNSAFE STRUCTURE AND HAS BEEN DEEMED UNSAFE BY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE DISTRICT THAT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE DOES HAVE MONEY TO GO IN AND DEMO IT AND MAKE IT A VACANT LOT AND TRY AND TURN IT INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR SOMEONE WHO NEEDS IT.

>> THAT IS PART OF THE WORKSHOP PROCESS, YES. THAT WILL HAVE TO GO ON NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT CRA FUNDS CAN BE SPENT ON THAT, PROBABLY THEY ARE, SINCE THE LEGISLATURE IS TRYING TO DO AWAY WITH THE CRA TOTALLY, WHEN ARE THEY GOING

TO BAN CITY COMMISSIONS? >> I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT A VACANT LOT ANYWHERE IN THE CITY IS NOT WORTH $25,000.

IF IT IS CLEAN AND LEAN FREE AND IS ALL CLEANED OUT AND DRESSED UP NOW, THE HOUSE IS NOW, I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE WE CANNOT SELL IT FOR $25,000 TO SOMEONE WHO NEEDS A HOME AND THEY PUT A MODULAR HOME ON A LAKE THEY ARE DOING IN AREAS AND ALL THE SUDDEN YOU HAVE A HOUSE THERE FOR $125,000 IN YOUR FAMILY IS A

PLACE TO LIVE. >> WE ARE TRYING TO DO THAT WITH

VACANT LOTS. >> ABSOLUTELY, IT IS A GREAT PROGRAM. THAT LEADS US TO THE THIRD REQUEST. THE COMMITTEE RECOMMENDS OFFERING THE SERVICES OF THE CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEES WITH ALL ADVISERS OF FPRA PROJECT FOR THE MODULAR HOUSES WE ARE LOOKING TO DO, ANY PARTICULAR PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE, WE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER OUR SERVICES, WE HAVE REAL ESTATE PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEES, IT IS A PRETTY WELL-ROUNDED COMMITTEE AND WE THINK WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP THAT OUT SOME OF THE CONTRACTORS AND HELP CITY STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK AT THEM AND DO A

FURTHER INVESTIGATION. >> QUESTIONS?

>> I LIKE THAT. YOU HAVE A PRETTY SKILLED GROUP THERE.

>> ALL OF THESE NEED TO BE DISCUSSION POINTS. YEAH.

[c. City of Fort Pierce Florida Highwaymen Museum Project Update.]

>> IT IS GREAT YOU ARE OFFERING TO HELP. WE APPRECIATE THAT.

>> THANK YOU, WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FLORIDA HIGHWAYMAN MUSEUM PROJECT

UPDATE. >> MS. LAWRENCE WILL PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM AS SHE APPROACHES, I BELIEVE THE

CONTRACTOR AND DESIGN TEAM ALSO. >> HELLO.

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>> GOOD EVENING. >> WHO IS STARTING?

>> I'LL BE STARTING. >> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THE HIGHWAY WHEN MUSEUM IS PART OF OUR CULTURAL HERITAGE AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY, THIS UPDATE HIGHLIGHTS OUR JOURNEY FROM MARCH, 2023. TONIGHT I HAVE WITH ME THE CONTRACTOR FOR THE PROJECT AS WELL AS HIS TEAM AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, I HAVE MEMBERS OF THE HIGHWAYMAN BOARD HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION. TO PROVIDE BACKGROUND ABOUT THIS PROJECT, THE CORNERSTONE OF THE REVITALIZATION TO SHOWCASE THE HIGHWAYMEN LEGACY IN THE CITY WHERE THEY WERE BORN AND RAISED. THE CITY RECEIVED $483,000 FROM THE STATE TO TRANSFORM THE BUILDING INTO A STATE-OF-THE-ART MUSEUM. THE SCOPE OF WORK INCLUDED EXTENSIVE WORK TO THIS TWO-STORY STRUCTURE. THE PROJECT HAS BEEN MAKING STEADY PROJECTS SINCE MARCH, 2023 FOLLOWING THE GRANT AWARD IN 2023, A GENERAL CONTRACTOR WAS SELECTED BY MAY AND BEGAN IN JULY, 2024 WITH STRUCTURAL WORK THAT WAS EXPECTED TO BE CONCLUDED THIS MONTH. I'M EXCITED WITH WHAT I'M SEEING THAT HAS BEEN DONE ALREADY. THERE ARE THREE OUTSTANDING ITEMS, THEY INCLUDE WHETHER TO REPLACE THE IMPACT WINDOWS, THERE IS A LETTER IN YOUR PACKET FROM THE CONTRACTOR AS WELL AS A RESPONSE FROM OUR BUILDING DIRECTOR, MR. PAUL THOMAS AS IT RELATES TO THAT MATTER AND WE ALSO HAVE THE PARKING LOT SITE PLAN WHICH WILL BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THE WEEK. ALSO, THAT WAS A CHANGE ORDER THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THIS BOARD. THE PLAN DID NOT INCLUDE A DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE BUT WE WILL DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE LATER. AND ALSO, THE OTHER OUTSTANDING ITEM WAS BENCHES. IT WAS MENTIONED PRIOR AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN, THE VISION FOR THE SITE TO INCLUDE FOUR BENCHES AS PART OF THE GARDEN AND THE THOUGHT WAS TO INCLUDE FOUR BENCHES THAT WERE CREATED BY AN MS. AND NEED UP PRENTICE. THE LANDSCAPING IS ANOTHER OUTSTANDING ISSUE FOR THIS PROJECT. THE SLIDE YOU ARE VIEWING RIGHT ABOUT NOW IS THE TOTAL PROJECT COST. IT BREAKS DOWN THE DIFFERENT COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT. TO DATE, THERE HAS BEEN A TOTAL PROJECT COST OF OVER $911,000.

THE FPRA HAS CONTRIBUTED OVER $4000 TO THIS PROJECT. THIS NEXT SLIDE IS A BREAKDOWN OF THE CHANGE ORDERS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND THOSE THAT ARE PENDING APPROVAL BY THE BOARD.

TO DATE, THERE HAS BEEN OVER $166,000 IN CHANGE ORDERS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND WE ARE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY DEPENDING ON THE DESIRE OF THE BOARD, AN ADDITIONAL $32,000 IN CHANGE ORDERS. JUST TO KIND OF BRING US UP TO SPEED AS IT RELATES TO ALL OF THIS ONCE IT IS COMPLETED, THE CONSTRUCTION HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND THE EXTERIOR SITE WORK IS COMPLETED, THE ORIGINAL FLORIDA HIGHWAYEN FOUNDATION WILL TAKE OVER THE LEASE TO OPERATE THE MUSEUM. WE, OR THE FPRA SIGNED A LEASE BACK IN MARCH, 2023. THE INITIAL TERMS OF THIS LEASE INCLUDE 50 YEARS WITH A RENEWAL OPTION OF 49 YEARS AT A RENTAL RATE OF ONE DOLLAR PER YEAR. AS IT RELATES TO INSURANCE, THE HIGHWAYMAN WILL BE IN RESPONSIBLY FOR ENSURING THE CONTENTS OF THE BILDING AND WORKERS COMPENSATION IF THEY HIRE ANYONE AND COMMERCIAL LIABILITY INSURANCE. THE FPRA WILL BE

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THERE ANY QUESTIONS? >> ON THE AGREEMENT OF WHO'S GOING TO DO WHAT, IS THAT ALREADY IN A CONTRACT? AS I'VE

BEEN AGREED TO? >> THE LEASE WAS SIGNED IN MARCH

2023 AND HAS BEEN EXECUTED. >> THIS IS ALREADY SPELLED OUT AND WE ALREADY HAVE THIS AGREEMENT WITH THE HIGHWAYMEN?

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONERS, QUESTIONS?

>> YES, COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. >> THIS IS NOT A QUESTION FOR YOU BUT JUST GENERALLY. I BROUGHT IT UP A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO ABOUT THE DOLLARS AVAILABLE IN THE DEVELOPER COUNSEL ACCOUNT. $2 MILLION JUST SITTING THERE WAITINGFOR PROJECTS LIKE THIS FOR US TO USE. NORTH OF MIDWAY ROAD, SPECIFICALLY FORD TAURUS FOCUSED ON CAPITAL PROJECTS. I'M NOT SURE IF THERE IS A REIMBURSEMENT TYPE THING IF WE CAN GET WILL WE HAVE ALREADY SPENT FROM THE FPRA ACCOUNT. IT IS WORTH IT TO LOOK INTO ANYTHING ABOVE THE CHANGE ORDER WE ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT HERE. IT HAS LITERALLY BEEN SITTING THERE UNTOUCHED FOR AT LEAST THREE

YEARS. >> WHAT IS THE PROCESS TO ACCESS

IT? >> I'M NOT SURE.

>> IS IN A COUNTY PROCESS? >> WE HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU.

>> OKAY. >> I REACHED OUT TO CHARLOTTE BYRON TWICE AND I AM WAITING ON A RESPONSE FROM HER AS TO HOW WE SHOULD PRESENT TO ASK. IF THERE IS SOME TYPE OF FORMAT. THE FIRST RESPONSE WAS THAT SHE NEEDED TO SPEAK TO THE COUNTY AND I REACHED BACK OUT TO HER AND ASKED HER, OKAY, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? I AM STILL WAITING ON HOW DO WE MAKE THAT ASK? IF THERE IS A PARTICULAR FORMAT THEY USE? THAT IS WHAT WE ARE

WAITING FOR. >> WE WILL COUNT ON OUR COMMISSIONER THAT ATTENDS THAT MEETING TO BACK US UP ON THAT.

>> IT IS ONLY ONCE A QUARTER. I WILL MAKE A PHONE CALL, FOR

SURE. >> JUST A SUGGESTION, MAYBE WE SHOULD PUT SOMETHING IN WRITING JUSTIN AN EMAIL OR SOMETHING JUST TO GET IT ON RECORD THAT WE DO NOT WANT THAT MONEY TO GO TO WASTE ANY PLACE ELSE. EVEN IF YOU DON'T PROVIDE ALL THE INFORMATION OR ANYTHING, I DON'T KNOW, AND JUST PUT SOMETHING IN WRITING FOR THE TAURUS DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL.

>> WOULD BE HARD TO FIND A MORE WORTHY PROJECT FOR THAT TYPE OF MONEY BECAUSE THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS FOR. FORD TAURUS.

>> EXACTLY, THE TAURUS DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL IN THE PAST HAS BROUGHT US TO THAT LOCATION AND THE GRAVEYARD WHERE THEY ARE BURIED. IT IS RIGHT ON THE RADAR AND THE ROUTE FOR THE DUST TRACK

TRAIL AND THE HIGHWAYMAN TRAIL. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. YOUR SUPPORT ON THAT WOULD BE OUTSTANDING. THIS IS GEOGRAPHICALLY PERFECT. IF IT'S ALL OF THE PARAMETERS. I WOULD CERTAINLY THINK THAT WILL CLAWBACK TO GET FUNDS THAT HAVE EXPANDED ALREADY. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF MORE CHANGE ORDERS

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THAT ARE COMING, IT APPEARS. >> WOULD BE GREAT.

>> AS I INDICATED TO THE BOARD, AND WE DID JUST THIS LAST, I WILL DO AN INSPECTION OF THE PROPERTY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I HAD A WONDERFUL TOUR AND I DID COME TO SEVERAL CONCLUSIONS.

THAT I WANT TO REPORT TO THE BOARD. ONE OF THE ITEMS WE WERE DISCUSSING WAS THE FLOOR LEVELING ISSUE . IT IS CERTAINLY WARRANTED. UNFORTUNATELY, THE OPTIONS WERE LIMITED AS TO WHAT COULD BE DONE. THE OPTION CHOSEN WAS THE APPROPRIATE SOLUTION AS A REALISTIC SOLUTION AND SUBDUING SOME TYPE OF TAPERING PROGRAM WHICH IS A LIABILITY ISSUE. I THINK THE SUGGESTION ON THAT AND WAS -- ON THE IMPACT GLASS ISSUE, I WILL REFER TO IT AS FIRST GENERATION IMPACT GLASS. IT IS OLDER, THE FIRST GENERATION OF THE STUFF THAT CAME OUT A COUPLE OF DECADES AGO, I WILL SUGGEST. IT DOES THE TRICK AND WILL NOT PASS BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS TODAY. IT IS NOT JUST IMPACT GLASS. WE CAN UPGRADED CERTAINLY WITH A CHANGE ORDER IF IT WAS WARRANTED, IT WILL OFFER MORE INTEGRITY TO THE BUILDING ESPECIALLY FROM A SECURITY STANDPOINT, MORE CHALLENGING TO BREAK THAT AND ENTER INTO THE FACILITY. THE DAY I WAS THERE, ONE OF THE WINDOWS ON THE BACK OF THE BUILDING HAD BEEN SMASHED.

>> THAT IS THE ONE WE ARE REFERRING TO.

>> ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT?

>> NO. >> THAT ONE WAS BROKEN IN CONSTRUCTION. NO. YOU ARE CORRECT. IT CAN BE PENETRATED FAIRLY READILY. VERSUS THE NEWER GENERATIONS OF THIS IMPACT GLASS ARE MUCH MORE SOLID. IT IS UP TO THIS BOARD, IF WE CAN GET THE FUNDS FROM THE COUNTY, IT MAKES IT BETTER TO APPROVE THE CHANGE ORDER. THE PARKING LOT FOR EXAMPLE, DEFINITIVELY HAS A DRAINAGE ISSUE. THAT CHANGE ORDER WAS PRUDENT TO PUT INTO PLACE. WE DISCUSSED SPECIFICALLY HOW THEY ARE GOING TO RECOUNT THE TWO THE PARKING LOT TO ELIMINATE THAT DRAINAGE ISSUE.

THE CHANGE ORDERS WE DID APPROVE, THEY WERE WELL THOUGHT OUT, WELL-PLANNED, AND I WILL THEN INSPECT THE EXECUTION OF THOSE UPON COMPLETION. I WILL SUGGEST TO YOU THAT THE RENOVATION JOB TAKING PLACE OVER THERE IS TOP-QUALITY. I'M VERY PLEASED WITH THE RESULTS. YOU GUYS HAVE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB. HE FOCUSED A LOT OF ATTENTION, AUDREY, UNDER YOUR TUTELAGE , ALL OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN INCOME I GIVE YOU A ROUND OF APPLAUSE, HE WAS WELL EXECUTED. HOPEFULLY WE WILL SEE MORE RENOVATIONS LIKE THAT IN THE FUTURE.

>> THERE BOARD IS OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO GET THIS STUFF CLEANED UP AND DIAL WITH.

I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL CHANGE ORDERS, WE MIGHT WANT TO WAIT. CHANGE WILL SECURE THAT FUNDING FOR US FROM THE COUNTY, DO WE WANT TO WAIT TO APPROVE THESE ADDITIONAL CHANGE ORDERS? MY CONCERN IS THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG HERE. IF WE APPROVE THEM AND SPEND THE MONEY, CAN WE RECAPTURE IT OR NOT? THAT IS THE PRIMARY QUESTION. IF THAT IS THE CASE, I WANT TO CLAWBACK ALL OF THE CHANGES IF POSSIBLE.

>> IT IS A FAIRLY SIMPLE QUESTION AND PHONE CALL TO ASK IF IT CAN BE APPLIED RETROACTIVELY, THE MONEY WE HAVE

ALREADY EXPENDED. >> RESPONSE AS A SITTING

COMMISSIONER, WORTH A TRY. >> I WILL DEFINITELY MAKE A

PHONE CALL. >> WE SHOULD EXPLORE THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE AND BENCHES IN TERMS OF GETTING MONEY.

>> I'M SURPRISED IT WAS NOT BUILDING CODE REQUIRED.

>> THEY DID NOT HAVE ONE. YEAH.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU, A CONCRETE ENCLOSURE.

>> CONCRETE WITH ALUMINUM GATES. JUST UNDER 20, THE ALUMINUM GATES, WE JUST GOT THE QUOTE FOR. THE ALUMINUM GATES WERE

7000, GIVE OR TAKE. >> NEW ORDERS FOR THE WALLS AND

ALL THAT? >> WE WILL PUT THAT ALL DOWN

ANYWAY, YES SIR. >> IT IS ABOUT THE RIGHT PRICE.

>> MADAM CHAIR, SO, I WAS HAVING SEVERE HEARTBURN OVER HERE, COMMISSIONER TAYLOR, IT IS WITH A SENSE OF URGENCY THAT YOU HAVE TO TALK. THIS IS REAL MONEY THAT HAS TO BE SPENT NOW AND THERE ARE PROCESSES, OBVIOUSLY. THIS IS TDC, OBVIOUSLY. THAT IS WHERE

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I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE US UPDATE THAT, IMMEDIATELY, WE WILL HAVE TO PUT THE FUNDS BACK AND RECOUP THEM.

>> WE CAN REQUEST A COMPLETE REVIEW OF FUNDING PROJECTIONS AND WHERE WE STAND, CASH PREDICTIONS AND ALL OF THAT? THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I ANTICIPATED. IF WE GO BACK TO THE CHANGE ORDER, 160 THERE, NOW WE JUST ADD ON ANOTHER 20,

RIGHT? >> JUST TO GIVE YOU AN ANALYSIS HERE, 33% OF THE PROJECT COST IS CHANGE ORDERS, THAT IS HIGHLY

UNUSUAL. >> I WILL NOT EVEN GO THERE. I HAVE ALREADY BLOWN THAT GASKET. MY CONCERN THOUGH IS TWOFOLD ON THIS. THIS TOTAL AREA WILL BE ENCAPSULATED. RIGHT? NO WAY FOR THE OUTSIDE FORCES TO GET INTO THIS. THESE BENCHES WE WILL PUT WILL BE INSIDE THE RECTANGULAR AREA. I REACHED OUT AND HAD STAFF, BECAUSE THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR TO THAT HAS COME ON THE

MARKET. >> FOR SALE.

>> WHAT IS THE PRICE? >> WHO DID I CALL? I CALLED

SOMEBODY. >> MR. JOHNSON.

>> STAFF IS LOOKING INTO THAT, WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO FIND THE PATH FORWARD TO GET THOSE ANSWERS.

>> I SAW IT ON FACEBOOK. I REACHED OUT TO MR. JOHNSON.

PLEASE HAVE STAFF LOOK INTO ACQUIRING THIS. MY CONCERN IS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS ENTIRE AREA IS INDICATIVE

OF WHAT WE ARE INVESTING HERE. >> WE HAVE ONE CHANCE TO BUY IT.

>> EXACTLY, WE SPOKE TO THE OWNER THAT IS SELLING IT AND IT IS ON AN OPEN MARKET. HE MENTIONED THAT IT WAS NOT OUT THERE, IT IS OUT THERE, HE ONLY MENTIONED IT TO A FEW PEOPLE AND PUT IT ON FACEBOOK. IT'S NOT OUT THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT

IS LISTED. >> IF IT CAN BE BOUGHT, PRIVATE SALE, THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SAVINGS.

>> THERE IS ANOTHER SENSE OF URGENCY, WHATEVER, THAT IS MONEY THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK WIRE IF WE ARE GOING TO PUT THIS NEXT TO A

CITY ASSET THAT WE OWN. >> LOOK, IF I MAY, I THINK IF THE CITY WAS ABLE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, IT WILL ALSO HELP WITH WHO IS HANGING AROUND THAT AREA.

>> I'M GOING THERE, THAT IS EXACTLY WHERE I'M GOING, WE OWN THE PLAZA THAT IS BEING USED AS A DAILY HANGOUT POINT. MY HEARTBURN IS BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE THIS DONE RIGHT. WE WILL PUT A PARKING LOT ACROSS THE STREET. MY CONCERN IS ALL OF THIS, I AM NOT LOOKING TO TACK ON ANOTHER 300 TO WIRE A BUILDING THAT IS NEXT TO THAT. IT MAKES SENSE. WHATEVER WE DO TO TAKE THAT BILL DOWN, IT OPENS UP A NEW ACCESS WHICH IS FETTERED BECAUSE THERE IS A BUILDING BETWEEN OUR PLAZA AND THE MUSEUM WHICH THE BUILDING HAS BEEN GUTTED DOWN TO THE BONES.

>> I TOOK A DRIVE PAST THAT AND I WAS LOOKING FOR THE PERMITS AND FOUND NONE. THAT IS A DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER DAY. THE BUILDING, PREPARING IT FOR MARKET, IT WAS MUCH MORE MARKETABLE THAN HE BLOWN NOW AND VACANT BUILDING.

>> BOARD, THAT IS WHERE MY HEARTBURN IS COMING FROM. I AM ALREADY UP THREE OR FOUR BASED ON ALL OF THIS.

>> DID THEY QUOTE YOU A PRICE? >> SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 250 AND

THREE. >> I'M SPELLING 200.

>> THAT CAN BE AN OFFER. >> GUYS, I DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE NEGOTIATING HERE.

>> IT IS PUBLIC INFORMATION THAT IS OUT THERE ON FACEBOOK. WE ARE NOT NEGOTIATING. I HAVE ASKED STAFF TO TALK TO THEM. I'M NOT DOING THIS. I WANTED TO BRING IT TO OUR ATTENTION. WE WILL NOT GO INTO THIS LINE. WE HAVE TOO MUCH AT STAKE RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE TO

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THOUGHT OF. >> THERE IS A PROCESS WITH WHICH WE PURCHASE THINGS TOO. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT INVOLVES, MR. JOHNSON. YOU KNOW WHAT THAT INVOLVES?

>> YES MA'AM. MS. HEDGES AND I ARE WORKING OUT THE DISCUSSION TODAY WITH THE PURCHASING CODE OF ORDINANCES AND THOSE PROCESSES, WE ARE CURRENTLY REVISING THAT, THE TEAM IS LOOKING AT THOSE AND THIS ASK IS INCLUDED IN THAT PROCESS. IF WE WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.

>> YOU HAVE TO GET YOUR HAT ON, BACK TO WORK.

>> YES MA'AM. I THINK BECAUSE WE ARE STILL COOKING, I DON'T WANT TO SAY WHERE WE ARE AT UNTIL WE HAVE A FINALIZED WITH HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO A IF THAT IS AN ACCEPTABLE ANSWER TO

EVERYONE. >> IF WE MOVE WEEKLY AND COMMISSIONER JOHNSON HAS A GOOD POINT, IF WE MOVE QUICKLY, WHAT IS THE CURRENT PROCESS TO PURCHASE?

>> OH. >> I AM PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT

AGAIN. >> THE CURRENT PROCESS TO PURCHASE. I KNOW WE WERE LOOKING AT SELLING.

>> I THINK WE CAN JUST PURCHASE.

>> I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY KIND OF ADVERTISEMENT OR PURCHASING. I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANYTHING THAT SPECIFICALLY

EXISTS FOR -- >> CAN WE GET NOT AN ASSESSMENT

BUT AN APPRAISAL FOR VALUE? >> YES MA'AM. WE WOULD DO THE DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE PAYING THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT. I'M GOING THROUGH EVERYTHING IN MY HEAD. I'M TRYING TO LOOK THROUGH IN MY BRAIN, I DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING IN THE CODE AND I DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING IN THE

PURCHASING. >> THIS IS THE CRA AS OPPOSED TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. I DO UNDERSTAND THE SENSE OF URGENCY, WE WANT TO EXPLORE ALL OF THESE THINGS. CERTAINLY, THE TAURUS DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL MONEY, FOR AS MUCH AS WE CAN GET AND ALSO THE PURCHASE OF THE BUILDING IF THAT IS SOMETHING. AND ALSO KNOWING WHERE WE ARE FINANCIALLY IN THE CRA. WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH MONEY THERE IS OUT THERE WHICH

IS NOT SPOKEN FOR. >> THAT IS MY ONLY CONCERN. IT

CAUSES ME HEARTBURN. >> MY ONLY CONCERN IS THE PROJECTED CASH FLOW INCOMING. BOTH OF THOSE COMPONENTS WOULD BE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. I AGREE WITH CURTIS HERE . IF THERE IS AN IDEA TO BE HAD, GRAB IT. WE HAVE ONE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THIS PROPERTY ADJACENT TO A MAGNIFICENT FACILITY AND WE NEED TO MAKE IT WORK. I DON'T WANT TO UNDERCUT THE NEGOTIATING POSITION. HE WILL BE DIFFERENT FROM THE NUMBERS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. HAVING SAID THAT, THE PROSPECTS OF WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THAT PROPERTY WITH THE HIGHWAYMEN MUSEUM NEXT-DOOR IS UNLIMITED. IT GIVES US A WHOLE HOST OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT I

THINK WOULD BE REALLY EXCITING. >> I WAS REMINDING MR. JOHNSON WHEN I WAS TALKING TO HIM THIS THAT WHEN WE ACQUIRED MAINE'S COURT AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT WHOLE SOLID BLOCK AND WE IDENTIFIED THAT BUILDING, AS SOMETHING WE MIGHT WANT TO OWN BECAUSE IT FITS IN WITH OUR PLAN FOR THE WHOLE

BUILDING. YES. >> CAN WE DESIGNATE COMMISSIONER BROADER AS THE SPOKESPERSON? JUST HAVE JACK HANDLE IT. HIS STRATEGY MAY NOT BE COMPLETELY LEGAL.

>> WE ARE JOKING, FOR THE RECORD. WE ARE ALL JOKING.

>> A LITTLE BIT SERIOUS. >> HE IS SERIOUS, WE ARE JOKING.

SO, WHERE ARE WE? ARE YOU CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE ARE ASKING, MR.

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>> I WAS JUST SAYING, WE WILL HAVE TO APPROVE THE CHANGE ORDER EITHER WAY. MY GUT TELLS ME THAT TDC MONEY IS SOMETHING THAT IS PROBABLY REIMBURSABLE WHERE WE SPEND THE MONEY AND THEY REIMBURSE IT. I DON'T KNOW THAT 100%.

>> WE REVIEWED THE CHANGE ORDER AND THE PAYMENT DOES NOT COME THROUGH FOR 30-60 DAYS. YES, YOU NEED TO PAY THE BILL.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> DO YOU WANT ME TO GIVE YOU

UNTIL FRIDAY? >> THEN WE CAN AT LEAST GET AN

ANSWER ON THAT PRETTY QUICKLY. >> MADAM CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS, THIS IS NOT ON FOR CHANGE ORDER APPROVAL. A CHANGE ORDER WILL COME BACK BEFORE YOU. THIS IS JUST THE UPDATE PRESENTATION.

YOU'RE NOT DOING THE CHANGE ORDER TONIGHT.

>> THIS COMES THROUGH THE FPRA, RIGHT? AS WE THINK ABOUT TIMING HERE, THE NEXT FPRA MEETING IS A MONTH AWAY AND THIS CAN CHANGE A WEEK AWAY FROM NOW. OKAY, THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW. OKAY.

I WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. THERE IS A SENSE OF URGENCY'S HERE. DEALING WITH THE PRIVATE MARKET HERE. ABSOLUTELY. I'M

GOOD. >> THE HIGHWAYMEN BOARD WANT TO

GET THIS OPEN AND SO DO WE. >> WE DO NOT WANT A REAL ESTATE BOULDER TO COME AND SCOOP UP THIS DEAL. WE DON'T WANT TO NEGOTIATE AGAINST YOU. I'M SUGGESTING, LET'S JUST GET IT

DONE. >> WE HAVE NO FORMAL ACTION TO TAKE BUT WE MIGHT HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING IF WE NEED TO MOVE QUICKLY, RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT WE ARE DOING? OKAY, ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> YOU GUYS HAVE A WONDERFUL

EVENING. >> THANK YOU.

>> OKAY, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE DISCUSSION ON THE

FPRA DIRECTOR. >> MADAM CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS, I ASKED TO HAVE THIS ON, MR. JOHNSON, MR. COX AND I WERE DISCUSSING THE INCOMING CITY MANAGER AND OCCURRED TO US THAT THIS BOARD HAD NOT SPECIFICALLY WEIGHED IN ON WHETHER YOU INTENDED THE NEW CITY MANAGER TO ALSO BE THE FPRA DIRECTOR AS MR. MIMS HAS BEEN SINCE I'VE BEEN YOUR BIRD WE WERE ASSUMING THAT THE NEW CITY MANAGER WOULD BE THE FPRA DIRECTOR AND I ASKED TO WALK THIS ON IS A DISCUSSION TONIGHT TO CONFIRM THAT WAS THE INTENT. I SPOKE ABOUT IT TODAY AND WE WILL HAVE A FOLLOW-UP CONVERSATION TOMORROW BUT I WANTED TO CONFIRM THE INTENT WAS FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO ALSO CONTINUE TO OPERATE AS YOUR FPRA

DIRECTOR. >> SINCE HE IS THE CITY MANAGER% I WOULD NOT WANT TO APPOINT SOMEBODY ELSE AS THE FPRA DIRECTOR, I WOULD SAY YES. THEN HE CAN DECIDE WHATEVER HE WANTS IF HE WANTS TO BRING IT TO US. WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> IS THAT TYPICALLY HOW IT IS DONE? THAT THE CITY MANAGER IS

ALSO THE FPRA DIRECTOR? >> IT IS DONE BOTH WAYS.

>> IT IS NOT REQUIRED TO DO IT THAT WAY?

>> NO SIR. >> I AM FINE WITH IT. I'M NOT 100% ON BOARD WITH HOW OUR PREVIOUS DIRECTOR WAS GETTING PAID THROUGH BOTH AGENCIES FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD. I WAS TOLD THERE WAS MONEY COMING IN FROM FPRA THAT WAS PAYING HIM AS

DIRECTOR, IS THAT NOT TRUE? >> I DO NOT KNOW THAT ANSWER,

SIR. >> THAT IS HOW IT WAS PRESENTED TO ME, I DON'T REMEMBER WHO TOLD ME THAT. THAT IS WHAT I

HEARD, IS THAT TRUE? >> THE WAY THE BUDGET WORKS IS THAT FPRA PAID A PORTION OF HIS SALARY. I THINK THAT IS PRETTY

STANDARD. >> OKAY. I THOUGHT HE WAS GETTING A SECOND PAYCHECK FROM FPRA AS WELL THE WAY I

UNDERSTOOD IT. OKAY. >> I THINK THAT HE WOULD JUST

GET A PORTION. OKAY. >> WE CAN GET THAT ANSWER.

>> YEAH. >> WHAT IS CHEYENNE'S TITLE?

>> I THOUGHT YOU WERE THE FPRA DIRECTOR?

>> SHE IS THE CRA ADMINISTRATOR AND IS NOW THE DIRECTOR OF THE COMMUNITY OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. SHE IS

THE ADMINISTRATOR. >> SHE IS DIRECTOR OF THE CRA.

AND THESE FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO

MAKE HER THE DIRECTOR OF FPRA? >> THAT IS WHAT I'M THINKING.

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>> WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS A CREDENTIAL THAT WENT INTO IT AS WELL. THE CITY MANAGER ALSO WENT THAT EXTRA STEP TO LOOK AT CONTINUITY OF BEING THE CITY MANAGER AND BEING ABLE TO HAVE FULL REIGN OF THAT. IT IS A DISCUSSION TODAY. IT WILL HAVE TO BE A LOT MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS FROM ME. TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO GO WITH THIS. OFTEN TIMES, THOSE TWO ROLES PLEADED INTO EACH OTHER AND WE HAD THE LUXURY OF HAVING SOMEONE WHO WAS DEALING WITH BOTH, I WOULD SAY, SOMETIMES WE NEED TO GO ANOTHER WAY IN THAT. IT IS ENCROACHING ON THAT FROM THE CITY PERSPECTIVE. YOU KNOW, WE NEED

TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS. >> YOU RAISE A GOOD POINT, I WILL GIVE YOU THE COUNTERPOINT TO THAT, WHICH SEPARATION WOULD BE BETTER? THIS IS AN INDEPENDENT BODY, TO HAVE INDEPENDENT MANAGER AND DIRECTOR REPORTING TO EACH WORKING COHESIVELY, BY THE WAY, MIGHT BE ADVANTAGEOUS. FURTHER DISCUSSION

WILL BE WARRANTED. >> IF THAT IS THE CASE, WE HAVE TO OPEN THAT UP FOR A WOOL PROCESS TO HIRE A CRA EXECUTIVE.

>> WE MIGHT HAVE ONE SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE.

>> WE MAY. RIGHT NOW, CONSIDERING WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE CURRENT LEGISLATURE, THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND NOT HAVING A CRA, CONCERNS ME. I THINK WE WILL BE IN WATERS THAT EVEN IF WE HAD AN EXPERIENCE PERSON, THEY WILL NOT BE COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT WILL COME. THERE ARE PEOPLE UP THERE THAT ARE BENT ON GETTING RID OF CRA'S. FOR WHATEVER PERSONAL

VENDETTAS THEY MAY HAVE. >> OR WHATEVER TRANSGRESSIONS

THAT HAPPENED IN MIAMI-DADE. >> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> I'M SORRY, I DO NOT MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF.

>> WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO APPOINT THE CITY MANAGER AS THE

CRA DIRECTOR. >> THE CRA DIRECTOR GOES HAND IN

HAND. >> WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. JUST SPEAKING FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE STAFF THAT WORKS FOR THE CITY MANAGER, ALL THE STAFF DOES. SO , EVEN THOUGH WE ARE A SEPARATE BOARD, WE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE AS THE CITY COMMISSION. SO, I THINK WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO APPOINT THE CRA DIRECTOR. I THINK YOU HAVE KIND OF A MAN JUDGMENT -- MANAGEMENT QUANDARY OF DOING THAT WITHOUT THE CITY MANAGER HAVING THAT INPUT. I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. IT IS A SEPARATE FUND.

YOU ARE SETTING UP KIND OF AN EQUAL SITUATION, ALMOST ANOTHER

I'M THINKING OUT LOUD. T KNOW, - >> MADAM CHAIR, OKAY.

>> MR. JOHNSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO AHEAD?

>> LET SEE IF WE ARE ON THE SAME WAVELENGTH. MADAM CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS, WHAT I THINK WOULD BE THE BEST THING TO DO, PUT INTO HIS CURRENT CONTRACT, THE ONE THAT WE ARE WORKING ON, THAT HE WILL SERVE AS THE FPRA DIRECTOR IF THAT IS THE DECISION OF THE FPRA BOARD AND IT WILL COME BACK TO YOU TO APPOINT HIM AS THE FPRA DIRECTOR IF YOU SO CHOOSE, OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE NOT APPROVING THE CONTRACT AS THE FPRA BOARD. HE WOULD BE MAKING THAT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY THAT IF HE WAS ALSO SELECTED TO BE THE FPRA DIRECTOR THAT HE WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT WITH THE SAME

COMPENSATION. >> YES SIR.

>> ARE YOU GOOD WITH THE DISCUSSION THAT WE ARE HAVING THAT THIS BODY HAS THE ABILITY TO WRITE ITS OWN DIRECTOR?

>> YES SIR, THIS BOARD WOULD APPOINT ITS OWN DIRECTOR.

>> EVEN THOUGH IT IS A CITY EMPLOYEE AND NOT --

>> ALL OF THE OPTIONS WE ARE DISCUSSING HERE ARE OPEN TO POTENTIAL. IF HE HAS IT IN HIS CONTRACT IF WE SELECT HIM HE IS ALREADY CONTRACTED FOR IT, IF IT IS SOMEBODY ELSE LIKE CHEYENNE, POTENTIALLY, THAT IS ANOTHER DISCUSSION THAT CAN BE HAD ABOUT HOW THAT IS ADMINISTERED. MY PRIMARY CONCERN IN QUESTION IS, THAT PERSON'S RESPONSIBILITIES WOULD BE TO PORT TO THIS BODY,

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NOT TO THE CITY MANAGER. >> I NEED TO LOOK AT HOW THE FPRA WAS FORMED, IT WOULD GO TO THE SPORT AND NOT THE CITY

MANAGER. >> THAT IS A WHOLE DISCUSSION WE HAVE TO GET HR IN HERE. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A WHOLE OTHER LINE OF BODY THAT WE MIGHT NOT HAVE TIMING OVER, THE CHARTER SAYS

THAT WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE. >> LET'S FIND OUT. WE DO HAVE A HISTORICAL CONTEXT. JOHN WARD WAS THE DIRECTOR AT ONE POINT AND THOSE THAT MAY RECALL, THERE WERE SOME ISSUES, THERE ARE PROS AND CONS ON BOTH SIDE OF THIS DISCUSSION.

>> DID HE REPORT TO MR. VEACH? >> I DON'T KNOW.

>> CANDIDLY, ON PAPER. >> OKAY, I WILL NOT GO THERE.

>> THERE ARE SOME PROS AND CONS. THERE ARE SOME THINGS TO CONSIDER. FROM THAT ASPECT. AGAIN, THIS SAME BODY WOULD BE DIRECTING THE INDIVIDUAL THAT HAS A DIRECTOR, RIGHT? THERE ARE SOME THINGS TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. NOT THAT IT CANNOT WORK, JUST BECAUSE IT CAN WORK, IS THAT WHAT WE WANT TO DO? HE REQUIRES DEEPER THOUGHT AND CONVERSATION.

>> YES IT DOES. AND MAYBE MORE IN THE CHARTER AND MORE THOUGHT

GIVEN TO IT. >> I AGREE WITH THAT. JUST TO THROW IT OUT THERE, I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING THIS BODY AS AN INDEPENDENT BODY WITH AN INDEPENDENT INCOME STREAM NOT BEING ENTANGLED WITH CITY MANAGEMENT FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.

THE INDEPENDENCE OF THAT STRIKES ME AS A POSITIVE. I UNDERSTAND THE NEGATIVES. I THINK THIS BODY WILL NEED A WORKSHOP TO HAMMER

OUT A BUNCH OF THINGS. >> THE CRA STARTED OUT AS NOT BEING THE CITY COMMISSION. IT WAS A GROUP OF CITIZENS, IF I

REMEMBER RIGHT? >> IT GOT OUT OF CONTROL.

>> THERE WAS A REASON WHY THEY ENDED UP MAKING IT THE CITY COMMISSION. I AGREE WITH YOU, HAVING A WORKSHOP, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WE ARE ALL OVER THE MAP IN TERMS OF WANTING SOME INDEPENDENCE AND WE MAY WANT TO DO SOME THINGS AND THE WAY IT HAS BEEN DONE SINCE VENICE BEACH, IT HAS BEEN THE CITY COMMISSION DOING THE SAME THING AS THE FPRA. WE WOULD HAVE TO RECONSTITUTE IT AND THINK BEYOND THAT. YEAH. PARDON?

>> CREATES TWO MASTERS. YOU ARE REPORTING TO TWO DIFFERENT

PEOPLE. >> YEAH, IT CAN CREATE SOME PROBLEMS. SO, WHERE ARE WE? YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK WITH MR.

CHESS? >> I WILL LEAVE IT OPEN FOR YOU TO HAVE THE CHANCE TO DISCUSS IT WITH HIM. WE STARTED BRIEFLY DISCUSSING IT TODAY, I WILL FOLLOW-UP WITH HIM TOMORROW. IT OCCURRED TO US THAT NO ONE HAD DISCUSSED THAT WITH THIS BOARD SO WE HAD NO DISCUSSION WHATSOEVER ABOUT WHAT THIS BOARD

WANTED TO OCCUR. >> WE STILL HAVE NO DIRECTION.

>> WE HAVE DIRECTION ALL OVER THE PLACE. IT IS ONE OF THOSE

DIRECTIONS. >> FOUR DIRECTIONS.

>> YES. >> IT IS WHAT WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE. THAT IS A GOOD THING FOR US TO DO.

>> MR. JOHNSON DID NOT BECOME THE INTERIM DIRECTOR, WE

CURRENTLY HAVE NO DIRECTOR. >> HE IS SERVING IN THAT CAPACITY AS MS. COX WAS SERVING AS THE ACTING, HE IS SERVING AS

THE INTERIM. >> THE BOARD DID NOT VOTE ON

THAT HEARING >> WE ARE FUNCTIONALLY OPERATING THAT WAY. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

>> THE FPRA DIRECTOR ALWAYS FELT LIKE A FIGUREHEAD AND A TITLE, NOT THE PERSON WHO IS ACTUALLY DOING ALL THE WORK AND THAT IS WHERE THAT IS COMING FROM FOR ME. SOMEONE IS CLEARLY DOING ALL THE WORK AND UNLESS THAT IS NOT WHAT IS HAPPENING AND HE IS SPLITTING HIS TIME PERFECTLY IN THIS HOUR I'M DOING FPRA AND THIS HOUR I'M DOING CITY MANAGER.

>> WE WILL JUST LET KELLY DO A.

>> FEELS SILLY TO HAVE THE FIGUREHEAD TITLE UNLESS WE GIVE IT TO SOMEONE WHO IS ACTUALLY DOING THE WORK.

>> WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT. >> YEAH. I AM GETTING TIRED OF

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THIS COMMISSION. >> MORE MEETINGS. I WANT MORE

MEETINGS. >> YOU ARE GETTING THEM, WE HAVE ALL OF THESE WORKSHOPS COMING UP.

>> SPECIAL MEETINGS. >> ARE WE DONE WITH THIS TOPIC?

[a. FPRA Programs & Activities Summary Report - March 2025]

>> I THINK SO. >> I UNDERSTAND HOW TO HANDLE IT

AT THIS POINT, YES MA'AM. >> WE ARE GETTING SILLY.

>> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS STAFF COMMENTS.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHO TO CALL ON, MR. JOHNSON, DO YOU HAVE ANY

COMMENTS? >> NO. I DON'T. I WILL DEFER TO CHEYENNE IF SHE HAS ANY COMMENTS.

>> SEE? >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE FPRA REPORT? YES YOU WOULD.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT IT. >> YES.

>> MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE ADVISORY BOARD, THANK YOU. A FEW ITEMS TO POINT OUT FROM THE REPORT AND THEN I WILL ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS. THE JCPENNEY PARKING LOT IS LOOKING TREMENDOUS. I WAS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEE. DIFFERENT ADVISERS AT THAT TIME BUT WE FINALLY GOT OVER THE FINISH LINE AND IT IS HERE.

>> THE PARKING COMMITTEE, JUST TO CLARIFY.

>> I DON'T KNOW, WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE TIMING ON THAT.

NO, THAT IS FINE. EVERYONE IS WORKING TOGETHER AND THE CITIZENS ARE PROVIDING FEEDBACK AND RECOMMENDATIONS. I AM VERY PLEASED WITH THAT. WE ARE WORKING HARD TO FINISH UP THE FPRA ANNUAL REPORT DUE AT THE END OF EVERY YEAR AND WE PUT ON OUR WEBSITE AND REPORTED TO THE STATE .

>> IS IT DUE MARCH 31ST? >> YES, MARCH 31ST, WE ARE FINISHING UP THE LAST DETAILS NOW AND MAKING SURE WE IDENTIFY WHICH GOAL IN THE FPRA PLAN WE HAVE ACHIEVED THROUGH THAT PROJECT. WE HAVE BEEN IN SUCH A PLANNING PHASE, OVER AND OVER, IT FEELS LIKE. NOW THESE PROJECTS ARE COMING TO FRUITION AND WE HAVE SOME SUCCESSES TO SHOW IN THAT REPORT. THOSE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS TO HIGHLIGHT, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT YOU MAY HAVE.

>> THE MAP I AM SEEING ON THERE, HAS THAT CHANGED FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING? WAS IT GOING ALL THE WAY TO VIRGINIA AND HOME

DEPOT AND ALL THAT? >> NOT SINCE THE PREVIOUS MEETING, SEVERAL MEETINGS AGO, WE CHANGED THE BOUNDARY BASED ON WAIT TIMES. THE INNER AND OUTER ZONES. I DO KNOW THAT FREEBIE CHANGED THE DASHBOARD AND HOW WE ARE GETTING THAT INFORMATION, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT IS WHAT IS DIFFERENT. THE BOUNDARY HAS CHANGED SINCE THE MIDDLE OF LAST YEAR, I WANT TO SAY WHEN HE CAME TO THE MEETING. WHEN WAS THAT, SARAH? AUGUST, LAST SUMMER.

>> HAD CHANGED TO GET BIGGER. >> WE HAD TO TIGHTEN IT UP BECAUSE THE WAIT TIMES WERE TREMENDOUS. THAT IS WHEN WE STARTED ADDING THE FIFTH VEHICLE.

>> ONCE WE DID, THE WAIT TIMES GOT SO MUCH AND THEN WE SHRUNK

IT. >> THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT, YES MA'AM. ORIGINALLY THE ATTEMPT WAS FOR THE PART THAT THE FPRA WAS PAYING FOR, WE DID THAT, WAIT A MINUTE, THAT IS NOT THE INTENTION, WAIT TIMES ARE SO EXTENSIVE PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO USE IT, WE HAVE INNER AND OUTER ZONES, YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO GO TO RESIDENTIAL HOMES, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO GO TO THE BUSINESSES AND DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL HOMES THROUGHOUT. IF THERE IS ANY FEEDBACK, QUICKLY, IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS OF CHANGING THOSE BOUNDARIES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, IT IS A CLICK OF A BUTTON FOR THEM. WE ARE ALWAYS OPEN TO THAT. THEY ARE COMING AGAIN SOON OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, THEY WILL COME TO DO THEIR REPORT.

>> I HAVE A FOLLOW-UP COMMENT ON THAT. WHO, SPECIFICALLY, HAS OVERSIGHT OF THEIR OPERATIONS, WHO DO THEY REPORT TO?

>> SARAH DEL GATO IS THE PROJECT MANAGER BUT THROUGH OUR OFFICE.

>> ONE COMMENT, IS THAT I HAVE BEEN INFORMED BY WELL-PLACED SOURCES THAT WE ARE NOT ACTUALLY GETTING FIVE VEHICLES. WE MIGHT CONTRACT FOR FIVE VEHICLES AND ARE PAYING FOR FIVE VEHICLES BUT DUE TO MECHANICAL BREAK DOWNS AND LACK OF DRIVERS, FIVE VEHICLES ARE NOT ON THE ROAD A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME. WE NEED TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. WE HIT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT MORE MONEY FOR THE FIFTH VEHICLE AND MADE A COMMITMENT TO THEM. WE COMMITTED TO IT, I EXPECT THEM TO DO COMMIT TO AND FULFILL THEIR OBLIGATIONS TO THE CONTRACT. I'M NOT SURE HOW WE CHECK THAT OUT IF WE GET SOME TYPE OF REPORT INDICATING THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES DEPLOYED, WHEN THEY ARE DEPLOYED, WHO THE

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>> I KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE THE DASHBOARD THAT DOES SHOW IT LIVE

AS THE VEHICLES ARE DRIVING. >> FRIDAY NIGHT AT 8:00 THERE ARE FIVE VEHICLES ON THE ROAD. I SUGGEST THAT WE CHECK INTO THAT.

>> WILL DO. >> WE HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO

FRIDAY NIGHT AT 8:00. >> LET'S GO TAKE A RIDE IN ALL

FIVE VEHICLES. >> RIGHT NOW THERE IS A BLUE VEHICLE, A DARKER ONE AND THAT IS BECAUSE ONE OF THE OTHER ONES GOT IN AN ACCIDENT. THE VAN IS A.D.A.

>> THEY HAVE BEEN USING THAT IS ONE OF THE REGULAR TRANSPORTS BECAUSE ONE OF THEIR CARS WAS OFF-LINE. I KNOW THEY ARE HAVING SOME PERSONNEL ISSUES AND THAT MIGHT BE THE GENESIS. JUST A

HEADS UP. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? OKAY, THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY

[10. BOARD COMMENTS]

MUCH. >> NEXT WE HAVE BOARD COMMENTS.

>> ALL RIGHT, ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD.

>> CAN I APOLOGIZE FOR MY TARDINESS? IF JAMES HAD NOT TALKED SO MUCH YESTERDAY I WOULD'VE MADE MY DOCTOR

APPOINTMENT. >> AND WE HAVE A MOTION TO

EXCUSE? >> I'M A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT

HIM. >> I MOVE THAT WE EXCUSE.

>> MADAM CHAIR, I DID TEXT COMMISSIONER GAINS AND HE WAS OUT OF TOWN FOR BUSINESS AND THOUGHT HE WOULD BE BACK IN TIME

IS WHAT HE SAID. >> OKAY.

>> CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. >>

YOU. >> ANY OTHER BOARD COMMENTS?

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