Apr 07, 2025 City Commission Regular Meeting

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. >>> I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. MONDAY, APRIL 7, 2025.

THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE COMMISSION.

PLEASE STAND FOR THE OPENING PRAYER. REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

>> LET US PRAY.

LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS MEETING.

FOR THIS CITY OF FORT PIERCE. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SON, JESUS CHRIST. THAT YOU SENT TO DIE ON THE CROSS TO PAY FOR OUR SINS AND ALL WE MUST DO TO HAVE ETERNAL LIFE IS TO BELIEVE ON HIM.

LORD, I PRAY FOR THIS MEETING THAT ALL THINGS WILL BE DONE DEISN'TLY AND IN ORDER AND GIVE THE LEADERS OF FORT PIERCE WISDOM AS THEY SEEK TO GO ABOUT THE AFFAIRS OF THE CITY AND THAT THEY WOULD -- AS WE -- THEY WATCH FOR OUR SOULS, THE PEOPLE OF FORT PIERCE, GIVE THEM WISDOM AND YOU WOULD BLESS THIS MEETING TONIGHT. I PRAY THIS IN YOUR NAME. AMEN.

>> AMEN.

>> CALL ROLL.

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

>> FIRST ITEM IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE MARCH 17, 2025 REGULAR MEETING.

>> FULL APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

[a. Sexual Assault Awareness Month]

>> A PROCLAMATION THIS EVENING. SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH.

WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE TO ACCEPT THAT? COME ON DOWN. APRIL IS SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH. CALLS ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT SEXUAL VIOLENCE IS WIDESPREAD PUBLIC HEALTH PROBLEM AND WHEREAS, EVERY DAY, TOO MANY WOMEN, MEN AND CHILDREN ACROSS FLORIDA SUFFER SEXUAL ASSAULT IN ALL ITS FORMS. WHEREAS, DURING NATIONAL SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH, WE RECOMMIT OURSELVES TO LIFTING THE VEIL OF SECRECY AND SHAME SURROUNDING SEXUAL VIOLENCE, EXPANDING SUPPORT AND UNDERSTANDING FOR SURVIVORS AND STRENGTHENING OUR RESPONSE.

WHEREAS, AT EVERY LEVEL WE MUST PROVIDE NECESSARY RESOURCES TO SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT WITHOUT JUDGMENT AND WITH DIGNITY, INCLUDING MEDICAL ATTENTION, MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, RELOCATION AND HOUSING ASSISTANCE AND ADVOCACY DURING THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE PROCESS.

THEREFORE, THE MAYOR OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA, APRIL IS SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH. ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, HEALTH CARE PROVIDERS AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS TO SUPPORT SURVIVORS AND WORK TO PREVENT THESE CRIMES.

>> CONGRATULATIONS.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS IN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR FOR HAVING US. I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THE INNER TRUTH PROJECT.

OUR WORK FOCUSES AROUND SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL ABUSE, MALE, FEMALE AND YOUNG ADULTS.

AND KIDS.

ONE OF THE STATS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE IS ABOUT THE NUMBERS. ONE OUT OF THREE FEMALES HAS ENCOUNTERED SOME SEXUAL VIOLENCE IN THEIR LIVES, ONE OUT OF SIX YOUNG MEN, WHICH IS A NUMBER MOST PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE, HAS ALSO BEEN AFFECTED BY THIS PLAGUE.

OUR JOB AND OUR FOCUS THIS MONTH IS TO SPREAD AWARENESS, MAKE EVERYONE AWARE OF THE SITUATIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN CLOSED DOORS SO THAT WAY PEOPLE DON'T QUARRY THE SHAME, THE BURDEN, THE TRAUMA THAT COMES FROM IT ALL.

WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU FOR THE PROCLAMATION.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.

>> MY NAME IS OMAR.

[a. Michael Sickenius expressed his appreciation for the Building Department's professionalism and helpfulness in resolving issues with the Seascape buildings at Ocean Village.]

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM MICHAEL EXPRESSING HIS APPRECIATION FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT'S PROFESSIONALISM AND HELPFULNESS

[8. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

>> ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA? IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.

>> MAY I MOVE WE A ROF PPROVE THE

AGENDA. >> CALL THE ROLL.

[9. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING PUBLIC HEARINGS Any person who wishes to comment on an agenda item which is not under Public Hearings on the Agenda may be heard at this time and must sign up to speak in advance. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>> NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS ON PUBLIC -- COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

>> THESE ARE ON ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA.

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YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

MISS COX WILL GIVE YOU A WARNING AT TEN SECONDS.

FIRST IS RICK REED.

>> YOUR ADDRESS.

>> 11C, I BELIEVE. THE APPROVE AFL LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET FOR $50,000.

IS SAYS, LINCOLN PARK WILL FOCUS ON SERVICE INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITING TO STRENGTHENING THE ECONOMIC BASE, PARTNERING WITH THE CITY TO ENHANCE THE DISTRICT'S PHYSICAL APPEARANCE, PROMOTING THE PROGRAM CITY INITIATIVES AND IMPLEMENTING CREATIVE PROGRAMMING AND COMPREHENSIVE MARKETING AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT STRATEGY.

THEY DON'T HAVE A WEB PAGE. THEY DON'T HAVE A PHONE NUMBER.

THEY DON'T HAVE A PHYSICAL ADDRESS.

WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM ANOTHER $50,000? I'M ALL FOR SUPPORTING THE COMMUNITY.

I'M VERY GENEROUS. I GIVE MORE THAN THAT AWAY SEVERAL TIMES A YEAR.

HOWEVER, WITH WHAT WE HAVE HAD GOING ON IN THIS COMMUNITY AND STEALING FROM THE LEAST AMONG US WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? YOU KNOW? THERE ARE FACEBOOK POSTS HAVE HAD 21 HITS IN THE LAST YEAR. MY RESTAURANT GETS MORE THAN THAT IN HALF A DAY.

WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM $50,000. YOU ARE CRYING, YOU WANT TO CHARGE PARKING ON THE BEACH. EVERY DOLLAR COUNTS. THIS IS OUR TAXPAYER MONEY.

THEY ARE NOT ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THEY DO. JUST BECAUSE IT'S GOING IN LINCOLN PARK DON'T MAKE IT RIGHT.

WE CAN SPEND $50,000 AND GET MORE BANG FOR OUR BUCK.

I KNOW SEVERAL BOARD MEMBERS THAT HAVE SERVED. ONE IN PARTICULAR RESIGNED BECAUSE OF THE SHE NAN BEGANS GOING ON. CREDIT CARD ISSUES THAT -- PERSONAL BILLS THAT WERE ALLEGEDLY BEING PAID WITH TAXPAYER MONEY. LINCOLN PARK MONEY. THAT INDIVIDUAL RESIGNED BECAUSE SHE WAS AFRAID SHE WAS GOING TO GO TO JAIL.

HERE WE ARE. NO ACCOUNTABILITY. ALL THESE BIG WORDS ARE IMPRESSIVE. WHEN THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD, WE DON'T GET -- IT NEEDS TO STOP. I IMPLORE YOU ALL, FOLLOW THE MONEY.

MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING OUR BANG FOR OUR BUCK.

>> MISS GARDNER .

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU.

I HAVE TO FIND SOME STRENGTH IN DOING YOUR JOB.

THERE ARE SO MANY ISSUES IN THE CITY THAT ARE COMING TO LIGHT AS OF PRESENT.

THIS LINCOLN PARK THING IS ONE OF THEM.

IT'S THE MAIN STREET OF LINCOLN PARK.

THIS LIST OF REQUIREMENTS AND NECESSARY THINGS HAS TO BE DONE.

THE $50,000 IS GONE. THEY DO NONE OF THESE.

$50,000 GONE. WE CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE CAN'T AFFORD TO PAVE OUR ROADS. OUR GARBAGE SERVICE STRUGGLES.

OUR PUBLIC WORKS STRUGGLES. OUR DOWNTOWN LOOKS LIKE -- YOU ARE CHUCKING MONEY AWAY. LAST WEEK, WE WERE SAYING, WE ARE SO BROKE, WE CAN'T DO THIS AND THAT. THIS SPENDING CONTINUES TO GO ON. THIS GENTLEMAN HAS JUST COME TO TOWN TO CLEAN UP SOME OF THE MESS AND FIND OUT WHERE THINGS ARE THAT NEED TO BE FIXED. YOU ARE CHUCKING MONEY OUT THE WINDOW. PLEASE DON'T.

>> CHRIS HIGGINS.

>> GOOD EVENING. WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR WASTING YOUR TIME. I'M A MEETING AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. IT'S NEXT MONTH.

I DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE UP TIME. MY APOLOGIES.

>> THANK YOU. THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

>> CHRIS EINSTEIN.

>> CHRIS EINSTEIN. I'M HAPPY TO SEE THIS IS ON THE AGENDA. MORE CHECKS AND BALANCES

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I UNDERSTAND MAIN STREET FORT PIERCE IS IN FRONT OF YOU ANOTHER NIGHT. MOST OF MY COMMENTS TONIGHT ARE FOR LINCOLN PARK.

THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY CHECKS AND BALANCES IN PLACE.

I SPOKE AT ONE OF THE LAST MEETINGS WHERE THE APPROVAL FOR BOTH MAIN STREET GRANTS WERE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND ASKED WHERE THE MONEY WAS GOING. A COMMISSIONER PULLED IT TO ASK A FEW QUESTIONS, IT WAS FINALLY APPROVED.

I QUESTIONED THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITH THE COMMISSIONERS ON THE BOARD OF THE DIRECTORS FOR EITHER MAIN STREET AND WAS TOLD THERE WAS NO ISSUE. TWO COMMISSIONERS IN RECENTLY RESIGNED FROM MAIN STREET BOARDS. I'M GLAD TO SEE MORE RESEARCH WAS DONE REGARDING THAT.

BOTTOM LINE, I DO NOT BELIEVE THEY SHOULD BE AWARDED ANY MONEY AT THIS TIME. I BELIEVE THEY SHOULD PAY BACK THE MONEY THEY HAVE RECEIVED FOR THE LAST YEAR. IF YOU GIVE THEM MONEY, I BELIEVE THEY SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO GIVE MORE THAN TWO PRESENTATIONS A YEAR TO THE COMMISSION UNTIL THEY APPROVE THEMSELVES AND CAN BE TRUSTED.

LIKE YOU REQUIRE AUTOBAHN AFTER THAT WENT SIDEWAYS.

IT WAS ONE THING WHEN THE MONEY WAS GIVING CAME FROM GRANT MONEY THE CITY RECEIVED FROM HUD.

NOW IT APPEARS THE MONEY WILL COME FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

THE TAXPAYERS.

IF WE WERE SEEING SOMETHING, BUT WE'RE NOT.

LIKE EVERYBODY SAID, YOU SAY WE CAN'T AFFORD BUT YOU GIVE SOMEBODY $50,000. MAYBE COMPARE THE OTHER MAIN STREET PROGRAMS OF OUR SURROUNDING SISTER CITIES .

SEE WHAT THEY REPORT ANNUALLY TO THE STATE AND USE THAT AS A BASELINE FOR OUR TWO MAIN STREETS. IT WOULD BE NICE IF YOU COULD LIST FOR US YOUR CONSTITUENTS WHAT LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET HAS DONE IN ACCORDING TO THE STANDARDS OR NATIONAL STANDARDS OF PERFORMANCE OR EVEN TIPS FOR A SUCCESSFUL MAIN STREET, WHICH AND RESOURCES AND DOCUMENTS ON THE MAIN STREET WEBSITE.

VERSUS US TELLING YOU HOW THEY HAVE NOT DONE IT.

PROVE TO US WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. THERE ARE SO MANY RESOURCES AND LISTS THAT SHOW WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO. I CAN'T SEE ONE IS.

I HAVE COPIES OF THE WEBSITE AS WELL.

IT'S ALMOST AS IF THEY MADE UP THE WEBSITE TO HAVE A BOX CHECKED SO THEY COULD GET THE MONEY. IT'S ALL IN JIBBERISH.

YOU CAN'T FIND THE WEBSITE. YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE MAIN STREET AMERICA WEBSITE AND CLICK ON THE COMMUNITIES.

THEN YOU WILL SEE THE LINK FOR THEIR CITY.

CLICK ON THAT AND IT BRINGS YOU TO JUNK.

THERE'S A LOT OF RESOURCES ONLINE THAT I THINK A LOT OF THE DOCUMENTS SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED WITH THE AGENDA

ITEM. >> THANK YOU.

>> THEY ARE NOT.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> GOOD EVENING. WELCOME, NEW CITY MANAGER.

I WANTED --

>> YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> 100 SOUTH 2ND STREET. THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET. I AM OPPOSED TO THIS. I THINK IT'S EVIDENT THAT I HAVE BEEN CONTACTED BY MEMBERS OF THE LINCOLN PARK BUSINESSES. THIS ORGANIZATION HAS DONE NOTHING FOR THEM. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD REROUTE THE MONEY TO THE HIGHWAYMEN MUSEUM. THE MONEY IS EARMARKED TO BE GIVEN AS A GRANT. THAT ORGANIZATION HAS RESPECTABLE PEOPLE ON THE BOARD.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD HAVE DONE AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB AND ARE PARKING HARD FOR THE MUSEUM. THEY COULD USE THIS MONEY. WE KNOW THAT THAT'S GOING TO GO TOWARDS THE HIGHWAYMEN MUSEUM AND THAT WOULD BE A MORE EFFECTIVE WAY OF USING THIS MONEY.

THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. AARON O'BRIEN.

>> 708 SOUTH 9TH STREET. I'M SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM 13C REGARDING APPOINTING MEMBERS TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF. AT OUR LAST MEETING.

I'M SPEAKING FOR THE MEMBERS THAT ARE ON THE COMMITTEE.

JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE HAVE REGULAR MEETINGS EVERY OTHER MONTH.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD TO GET THE REPORT FROM 2024 OUT.

THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF CHANGES TO THE STATUTE. WE HAVE HAD TO REVAMP THAT A

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WE HAVE AN ENGAGED GROUP THAT ATTEND MEETINGS. SIX OF US. WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO BUILD ON THE MOMENTUM AND ENTHUSIASM WE HAVE.

THAT'S CREATED WITH THIS GROUP. IT'S A GOOD NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT REALLY CARE ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THEY HAVE A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS. THEY WANT TO DISCUSS THOSE IDEAS. WE NEED TIME TO DO THAT. OUR SUGGESTION, I BELIEVE IN SPEAKING FOR THE GROUP, ESPECIALLY MYSELF, IS WE LIKE TO ADD MEMBERS TO FULFILL THAT FULL EIGHT BUT KEEP MEMBERS THAT ARE ON THE COMMITTEE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SPEAKING ABOUT.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.

[11. CONSENT AGENDA]

>> NEXT ITEM IS THE CONSENT

AGENDA. >> ANY ITEM ANY COMMISSIONER WOULD LIKE TO PULL FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA?

>> MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO PULL B AND C.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE AGENDA IN.

>> SO MOVED. >> SECOND.

>> SECOND.

>> CALL ROLL, PLEASE, FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE AGENDA.

[b. Approval of award of the Little Jim Camp Sanitary Improvements to the low bidder, R.K. Contractors, Inc., in an amount not to exceed $390,648.22.]

>> ITEM B IS APPROVAL OF AWARD OF LITTLE JIM CAMP SANITARY IMPROVEMENT TO THE LOW BIDDER RK CONTRACTORS IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $390,648.22.

>> MADAM MAYOR, BEFORE WE BEGIN, THE DISCUSSION ON THAT, I THINK WE HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT.

>> I WAS GOING TO MAKE IT.

>> I WAS MAKING SURE I WAS ON THE RIGHT ITEM.

>> I DO -- I HAVE A CONFLICT ON ITEM 11B, SO I WILL RECUSE MYSELF. I HAVE THE FORM FILLED OUT.

I WILL STAY UP HERE THOUGH.

>> I REQUESTED THIS BE PULLED FROM THE AGENDA FOR SEVERAL REASONS. ONE, AS WE ARE AWARE, THE CONTINUITY OF THE OPERATION OF LITTLE JIMS HAS BEEN A MUCH LITIGATED ISSUE IN THESE CHAMBERS, IN FRONT OF THIS COMMISSION, RELATIVE TO ONGOING OPERATIONS AND A HOST OF OTHER RELATED ITEMS TO THAT.

THE COMMISSION HAS RECEIVED EXTENSIVE CRITICISM FOR THEIR TREATMENT OF LITTLE JIMS, WHAT THEIR CONSIDERATIONS OF LITTLE JIMS ARE, AND THE FINANCIAL END OF THIS I THINK -- THAT'S WHAT'S OF CRITICAL IMPORTANCE TO ME. THE FINANCIAL END OF THIS IS -- I THINK I CALLED IT IN THE LAST MEETING, A TRAVESTY. HOWEVER, LET'S PUT THAT ASIDE FOR A MOMENT. WE'RE BEING ASKED TO EXPEND CLOSE TO $400,000 IN SEWER LINE IMPROVEMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GO UNDER THE RIVER TO HOOK INTO THE STATE, I BELIEVE, SYSTEM TO PROVIDE A STUB HOOKUP FOR FUTURE SEWER USE TO THIS FACILITY. I PULLED IT BECAUSE I WANT THE PUBLIC -- AS COMMISSIONER GAINS DOES -- TO BE AWARE AND EXPLAIN THAT THE CITY COMMISSION IS BEING ASKED TO EXPEND CLOSE TO $400,000, IN ESSENCE, TO CONTINUE THE OPERATION OF A PRIVATE ENTERPRISE.

I HAVE A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE WITH THAT.

I'M PUTTING THAT ASIDE FOR A MOMENT.

I THINK THE BIGGER ISSUE IS THAT THIS IS A CITY- OWNED PIECE OF PROPERTY.

WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPROVEMENTS.

THIS IS THE ONLY SOLUTION COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE TO FIX THIS SEWER SYSTEM DILEMMA. OBVIOUSLY, PAYING $5,000, $6,000 A MONTH FOR TEMPORARY REST ROOM FACILITIES IS FOOLHARDY AT BEST.

A TRAGIC BUSINESS DECISION BY THE CITY TO UNDERTAKE THAT AT THE TIME.

HOWEVER, AN EXPENDITURE OF $400,000 IS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNTAMOUNT OF MONEY. I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY OBVIOUSLY IS MAKING A VERY SERIOUS COMMITMENT TO A CITY- OWNED ASSET TO INVEST THIS TYPE OF DOLLAR IMPROVEMENTS.

WHILE I ADVOCATE DOING THE WORK, I'M JUST SHARING MY CONCERNS OF EXPENDING $400,000 IN ESSENCE AND MOST LIKELY TO REMAIN A PRIVATE ENTERPRISE MOVING FORWARD IN A PUBLICLY- OWNED FACILITY. THAT'S JUST MY CONCERN THERE.

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I WANT THE PUBLIC TO CONSUME THIS INFORMATION TO UNDERSTAND THE COMMITMENT THAT THE CITY HAS MADE TO THE CITY-OWNED PROPERTY. THANK YOU.

>> IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER GAINS?

>> THANK YOU. I, TOO, AM NOT HAPPY WITH THIS NUMBER THAT I READ IN THIS PACKAGE I GOT LAST WEEK. HOWEVER, I HAVE HAD TIME TO SETTLE DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND THINK ABOUT IT.

IT IS OUR PROPERTY. REGARDLESS OF, AS YOU SASHGS PUT EVERYTHING ON THE SIDE.

THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT IT NOW IS THAT AS THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY, WE HAVE A DUTY TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS SEWER LINE IS RIGHT AND PROTECT THAT WATERWAY.

>> CORRECT.

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M LEANING ON RIGHT NOW. I WANT TO PROTECT THE WATERWAY.

THE STAND-A-LONE PORT-A- POTTY, ONE STRONG WIND, WE HAVE A DISASTER RIGHT THERE.

WE CAN DISCUSS THE OTHER PART OF THAT OLD PROPERTY WHEN IT COMES BACK IN FRONT OF US.

I'M NOT HAPPY WITH THIS NUMBER. I'M REALLY NOT. BUT IF THIS IS GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR WATERWAY IS SAFE AND WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT THE STATE WANTS US TO DO, YOU KNOW, I WILL VOTE FOR IT. I'M NOT HAPPY.

AS THE OWNERS, WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE TO DO BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT STATE TO COME IN AND SAY WHATEVER THEY HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THE SEWER.

I HOPE ONCE WE GET IT FIXED AND RE- VISIT THIS PROJECT DOWN THE ROAD THAT WE CAN BRING THIS NUMBER BACK UP AND DISCUSS IT FURTHER THEN.

>> CLEARLY.

>> I HAVE A GENERAL QUESTION. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I APPRECIATE THE COMMENT.

THE CONCERN, TOO, IS ENVIRONMENTALLY IT'S NOT A GOOD THING. IT'S A DISASTER, ACTUALLY, WAITING TO HAPPEN. I'M GLAD WE'RE ADDRESSING IT.

IF WE DON'T GET CONTROL OF THIS, THE FINES ARE MUCH BIGGER WITH EPA AND PROFESSIONAL REGULATIONS. MY QUESTION TO STAFF IS -- I DON'T KNOW WHO IS HANDLING THIS. MAYBE YOU CAN CIRCLE BACK. IS IT TOO FAR GONE, COULD WE PURSUE GRANTS AND OPPORTUNITIES? AFTER ALL, WE ARE UPGRADING INFRASTRUCTURE. THERE ARE PROJECTS OUT THERE THAT HAVE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES. I DON'T KNOW IF WE PURSUED THAT OR NOT. THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN THAT I WOULD HAVE, TO HAVE STAFF ADDRESS THAT AT SOME POINT. I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE.

I DON'T KNOW -- MR. ANDREWS OR SOMEBODY.

>> THERE IS SOME GRANT MONEY INVOLVED WITH

THIS. >> IF THERE IS GRANT MONEY, THAT NEEDS TO BE EXPLAINED. MAYBE THERE'S MORE.

WHEN I LOOKED AT BOTH OF THESE, THERE WERE TWO BIDS.

THE OTHER WAS ALMOST DOUBLE WHAT THIS WAS. MR. ANDREWS, CAN YOU HELP ME HERE, HELP THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND IF WE PURSUE ANYTHING HERE?

>> WE ORIGINALLY DID TRY TO PURSUE SOME DIFFERENT GRANTS FOR THIS. IT WAS THE TIME FRAME THAT WE WERE RUNNING INTO THAT THEY WERE EXTENDED SO MUCH. THIS WAS BEING FUNDED BY -- WHAT IS IT? BUILD BACK AMERICA GREATER FUNDS THAT THE CITY RECEIVED. THAT'S WHERE THE FUNDS ARE EARMARKED FROM.

>> THESE FUNDS, THIS 390 --

>> YES. IT WAS ORIGINALLY FUNDED.

>> ORIGINALLY FUNDED FROM.

>> I BELIEVE IT STILL IS.

>> IT'S STILL 390.

>> IT'S GOOD FROM THE FEDERAL FUNDS? IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING? YOU THINK?

>> I BELIEVE SO. LAST TIME I DID TALK WITH THE FINANCE DIRECTOR, IT WAS EARMARKED AS A PROJECT TO BE REIMBURSED BY THAT.

>> I THINK CHANGED THE FLAVOR OF EVERYTHING.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE OWE THE PUBLIC.

IT'S NOT -- I'M NOT GETTING AROUND YOU, BUT MISS MORRIS IS SOMEWHERE HERE IN THIS BUILDING.

WE PROBABLY NEED TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THAT.

IF THESE ARE FEDERAL FUNDS ON A BUILD BACK AMERICA, THAT RESOLVES THAT.

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I BELIEVE IN PUTTING FACTS INSTEAD OF SOMETHING THAT'S NOT

TRUE. >> DO YOU THINK MISS MORRIS IS IN THE BUILDING AND COULD

ADDRESS THIS IN. >> YES, SHE IS.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I HAD ONE FOLLOW-UP. ARE YOU COUNTING THE DAYS? NOT MANY LEFT. CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT.

>> JACK, IN THE SCOPE HERE, IS THERE A TIME LINE FROM START TO FINISH TO GET THROUGH THIS PROJECT? ARE YOU AWARE OF ONE? IF YOU ARE NOT, THAT'S OKAY.

>> I WANT TO SAY IT WAS 60 DAYS IN THE CONTRACT TO COMPLETE THIS.

THEY FELT RELATIVELY CERTAIN THAT THEY COULD GET STARTED PRETTY SOON AND GET THE PROJECT COMPLETED.

>> THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD EXECUTE IN 60 DAYS.

>> MISS MORRIS.

>> GOOD EVENING. YES, THOSE FUNDS ARE STILL ENCUMBERED. IT'S A PROJECT THAT WAS ENCUMBERED IN THAT.

>> WE ARE UNDER THE DEADLINE?

>> BECAUSE IT WAS A PROJECT THAT HAD BEEN STARTED AS OF BEFORE AND EARMARKED BEFORE OUR 2024

DEADLINE. >> THAT'S IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO KNOW.

>> HOW MUCH TIME DO WE HAVE?

>> IT HAS TO BE COMPLETE BY 2026.

>> I HAVE ONE OTHER FOLLOW-UP. I KNOW -- CONGRATULATIONS, BEST WISHES, AS YOU EXIT US. THIS IS -- WHO IS KEEPING AN EYE ON THIS PROJECT? PRIOR TO THIS -- I LET IT GO. I SHOULDN'T HAVE.

THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S ANOTHER THING. I DON'T LIKE CHANGE ORDERS.

TYPICALLY WHEN WE GET INTO PROJECTS LIKE THIS, WE HAVE EXPERIENCED WHERE WHOEVER IS MANAGING THIS PROJECT -- IT'S A CONCERN OF MINE.

HE HAS HIS CONCERNS. I HAVE MINE.

I REALLY NEED THIS TO COME IN -- NOT COMING BACK FOR CHANGE ORDERS. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WE ARE BORING UNDER THE LAGOON AND COMING OUT THE OTHER SIDE AND TIEING INTO THE COUNTY SYSTEM, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. MY HEAD IS EXPLODING WITH THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS STARTING THE NEXT 60 DAYS.

YOU HAVE SEEN MY CONCERN. HELP ME ALLEVIATE MY CONCERNS AND WHO IS DOING THIS.

>> IT WILL BE MANAGED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

WE WILL KEEP A CLOSE TAB ON THAT. WE FEEL CONFIDENT WE HAVE A GOOD CONTRACTOR TO DO THIS. WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT HE WILL GET IT IN.

>> WE WILL -- I HOPE TO HEAR FROM HIM.

I THINK THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO KEEP AN EYE ON, QUITE FRANKLY.

>> LITTLE JIM IS NOT GOING TO LET US

NOT. >> I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENG NEARING AND WORK WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN THEY GO UNDER THE LAGOON AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN DOWN THERE. THAT'S MY CONCERN.

>> THIS ISN'T YOUR LAST MEETING, IS IT?

>> NO. I HAVE ONE MORE NIGHT MEETING.

>> WE WILL SAVE SOME STUFF FOR THEN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS MORRIS.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

>> WE ARE CLEAR THIS MONEY IS NOT COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND?

>> CORRECT.

>> I NEED TO HEAR THAT. IT'S NOT COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.

>> WE ARE SPENDING THE MONEY --

>> THE FEDERAL --

>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY TO KNOW WE ARE MAKING AN INVESTMENT IN OUR CITY PROPERTY BECAUSE THAT PROPERTY IS IMPORTANT TO US.

>> WITH GOVERNMENT FUNDS. FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

>> COMMISSIONER --

>> BEFORE IT GETS CHAIN SAWED OUT.

>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

>> WE HAVE IT ON HAND. THEY CAN'T CLAW BACK ON IT.

I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO

APPROVE. >> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> CALL THE ROLL.

[c. Approval of an Agreement between the City of Fort Pierce and Lincoln Park Main Street, Inc. to provide services from October 1, 2024, to September 30, 2025, for an amount not to exceed $50,000.]

>> THANK YOU. I REQUESTED THIS ITEM BE PULLED.

WE HEARD TESTIMONY TONIGHT AS TO SOME OF THE REASONS.

FROM AN OPERATIONAL STANDPOINT, I BELIEVE THERE'S A MORE GLOBAL ISSUE. WE HAVE TWO OF THESE.

WE HAVE LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET

AND -- >> FORT PIERCE MAIN STREET.

>> TO A TOTAL SUM IN THESE GRANTS OF $100,000 A YEAR.

I HAVE MY RESERVATIONS AS TO WHY -- I KNOW THIS IS

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BUT THERE'S DOZENS OF ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE THAT ARE LOOKING FOR MONEY FROM THE CITY.

I'M NOT CERTAIN WHY THESE TWO ARE DESIGNATED AS HITTERS TO RECEIVE $50,000 EACH. MAYBE I NEED TO DO MORE RESEARCH ON THAT TOPIC TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THAT.

I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH THE DOCUMENT THAT THE CITY PROVIDED AS TO DELIVERABLES THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THESE ENTITIES TO SECURE THEIR FUNDING.

I BELIEVE WE PAY THIS OUT QUARTERLY.

BENCHMARKS HADN'T HIT, PAYMENTS MAY NOT BE MADE.

THIS ISN'T AN AUTOMATIC SEND A BILL AND GET YOUR MONEY.

I THINK FROM A GLOBAL PERSPECTIVE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE RATHER SERIOUS NATURE OF THE CITY'S FINANCES, THAT THIS ISSUE -- WE MAY WANT TO RE-VISIT THIS IN THE FUTURE. I'M NOT SAYING NECESSARILY NOW.

BUT THIS WARRANTS AN IN- DEPTH DISCUSSION AS TO THE PHILANTHROPIC OPERATIONS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IN LIGHT OF OUR FINANCIAL BURDENS.

TRYING TO COVER OUR RESPONSIBILITIES TO OUR STAFF AND OVERHEAD AND CAP X ON CITY- OWNED PROPERTY THROUGHOUT THE CITY. I FEEL AS THOUGH WE MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE IN THE POSITION TO BE FUNDING FROM A PHILANTHROPIC PERSPECTIVE OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS. I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT IT.

I'M CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS' THOUGHTS ARE ON THAT. I'M NOT SAYING NO.

I'M SAYING, THIS NEEDS A MORE THOROUGH VETTING MOVING FORWARD TO GRASP -- ARE WE GETTING A RETURN ON OUR MONEY? I THINK SOMEBODY MENTIONED FUNDING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE KNOW WHAT THE CRITICAL ISSUES THERE ARE.

FUNDING OUR OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES IS BECOMING MORE OF A CHALLENGE EVERY DAY AS EVERY COMMISSION MEETING WE GET CHANGE ORDERS FOR THIS, CHANGE ORDERS FOR THAT, EXPENDING MONEY HERE, THERE. I JUST THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY JUDICIOUS IN DOLING OUT MONEY. I'M GOING TO CALL IT WHAT IT IS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT WARRANTED. I'M SAYING, IT NEEDS A DEEPER DIVE. I WOULD LIKE TO GET MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS' INPUT ON THAT.

>> I CAN PROVIDE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE. WE FUNDED EACH OF THESE $100,000 AT ONE TIME. IT CAME FROM FPRA, I BELIEVE, AT ONE TIME. THEN AT SOME POINT, WE -- WHEN FPRA MONEY WENT TO DEBT, WE BEGAN TO FUND IT THROUGH DBG.

NOW THAT'S NOT ALLOWABLE -- IT'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

MAIN STREET PROGRAM IS A NATIONAL PROGRAM.

THEY HAVE CERTAIN THINGS THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO PROMOTE. I THINK THAT STAFF HAS DONE A GOOD JOB AT LAYING OUT FOR -- WHAT LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET IS SUPPOSED TO -- THEIR DELIVERABLES.

AT THE SAME TIME, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU.

I THINK THERE WERE A COUPLE YEARS BACK WHEN WE STARTED DOWN THE ROAD OF SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE OUTSIDE AGENCY WE FUND AS A MATTER OF COURSE AND START TALKING ABOUT WHETHER THEY ARE DOING WHAT THEY SAY THEY'RE DOING AND ALSO IS IT CONTRIBUTING TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY.

WE KNOW LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET DOES A NUMBER OF EVENTS. THEY DO EVENTS. I KNOW FORT PIERCE MAIN STREET DOES THE FRIDAY FEST AND COFFEE WITH THE MAYOR AND THE TWO PARADES, AT CHRISTMAS AND THE JULY 4TH FESTIVAL. THEY MEET WITH THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE. THEY MEET WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN PROPERTY DOWNTOWN OR RENTING DOWNTOWN.

I DON'T KNOW ALL THE THINGS THEY DO.

I HAVE A FEELING THAT IF WE DIDN'T FUND THEM AND THEY WENT AWAY, WE WOULD FIND OUT.

I BELIEVE THAT -- I AGREE WITH YOU.

I FEEL LIKE BUDGET TIME -- THIS BUDGET GO AROUND -- WE TALKED ABOUT THE BUDGET TODAY. THIS BUDGET GO AROUND, WE COULD FOCUS ON -- THERE ARE OTHER AGENCIES IN OUR BUDGET THAT WE DO, THAT WE COULD FOCUS ON THAT AND DECIDE, IS IT WORTH THE MONEY GOING FORWARD? I THINK THAT'S A GOOD EXERCISE FOR ALL OF US COMMISSIONERS AND FOR THE CITIZENS TO KNOW.

COMMISSIONER GAINS.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS.

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I ASKED THE QUESTION -- I LITERALLY ASKED THE QUESTION, WHAT ARE WE GETTING WHEN WE WRITE THESE CHECKS? I ASKED THAT QUESTION. I WANT TO KNOW.

IF PEOPLE ASK ME WALKING ININ STREET, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THEY DOING, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY X, Y, Z.

I ASKED THE CITY ATTORNEY DURING MY WEEKLY MEETINGS, CAN WE PUT SOMETHING IN WRITING, SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET ANY ORGANIZATION THAT GETS MONEY FROM US, HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN PARAMETERS, HAVE TO DO CERTAIN THINGS? I THINK THAT'S ONLY FAIR FOR EVERYBODY THAT WE DONATE SOME MONEY TO, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S COMING FROM THE GENERAL FUNDS, BECAUSE IT'S TAXPAYER MONEY. I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED IT.

I DIDN'T WANT ANYBODY LEAVING HERE TONIGHT THINKING THAT WE WERE GOING TO WRITE A CHECK FOR $50,000 AND THEN WAIT TO SEE IF THEY MET THOSE CRITERIA THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA.

I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, COMMISSIONER. I'M IN AGREEMENT. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME HARD CUTS COMING UP SOON WHEN WE GET THE BUDGET. A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE ARE GETTING CHECKS, WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE HARD DECISIONS. I AGREE WITH SOMETHING YOU SAID.

I DON'T WANT TO TAKE SOMETHING AWAY AND SAY, OH, THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE DOING. THEN WE PLAY THAT GAME.

I ALSO DON'T WANT TO WRITE A BLANK CHECK FOR $50,000 TO ANYBODY AND THEY DON'T MEET CRITERIA.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THE MONEY BACK? WE'RE NOT. LET'S MAKE THEM EARN THE MONEY.

IF WE GET MONEY, SHOW US WHAT YOU ARE DOING WITH THE MONEY.

IF YOU SHOW AND COME IN FRONT OF US, COME IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE DO WITH THE MONEY, THIS IS HOW IT BENEFITS THE CITY, THERE'S TWO WAYS.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY I'M DOING X, Y, Z, HOW DOES IT BENEFIT THE TAXPAYERS OF FORT PIERCE? THAT'S WHAT I HAVE MY DISCUSSIONS WITH MADAM ATTORNEY AND MY ONE ON ONE. I'M GLAD WE ARE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A MORE DETAILED DISCUSSION DURING BUDGET TALKS.

I'M TELLING OTHER ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE THAT ARE GETTING CHECKS FROM THE CITY TO GET READY, BECAUSE IT'S DETAILED DISCUSSIONS.

IF YOU GET A CHECK OR SOMETHING FROM THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE MOVING FORWARD, YOU HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA. YOU HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN DEADLINES. WE'RE GOING TO HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE FOR EVERY PENNY SPENT. THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR NO ONE WAS GETTING A $50,000 CHECK TONIGHT. NOBODY.

LET ME REPHRASE THAT. MY VOTE -- WON'T BE NO YES VOTE FOR ME TO HAND A BLANK CHECK OUT. I NEED TO SEE SOME STUFF COME BACK TO THE CITY, HOW IT BENEFIT THE CITY.

>> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS IN. THANK YOU FOR PULLING THIS.

I THINK THIS OPENED UP A LARGER CONVERSATION ON THE MONEY THAT FORT PIERCE IS BLINDLY HANDING OUT TO ORGANIZATIONS AROUND TOWN.

I WILL SAY THE FUNCTIONALLY AS A NON- PROFIT, THE MAIN STREETS WORK DIFFERENTLY.

HAVING SERVED ON THE MAIN STREET FORT PIERCE FOUR YEARS, UNTIL LAST FRIDAY, I CAN SPEAK TO MAIN STREET FORT PIERCE BECAUSE THEY HAVE A PROVEN TRACK RECORD SINCE 1988. A NUMBER OF PHYSICAL PROJECTS, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS IN DOWNTOWN, RESTORING OLD CITY HALL, SUNRISE THEATER, CREDITED WITH THE MANATEE CENTER, SEVERAL OTHER PROJECTS GOING ON WITH MAIN STREET FORT PIERCE THAT THEY HAVE RAISED MONEY FOR THE LAST HOWEVER MANY YEARS THAT IS. 36 YEARS.

I THINK FUNCTIONALLY, IT'S MORE THAN JUST HANDING MONEY OUT TO A NON-PROFIT AND WONDERING WHAT'S HAPPENING. THE MAIN STREET IS BUILT AND STRUCTURED THROUGH MAIN STREET OF AMERICA AND MAIN STREET FLORIDA TO PARTNER WITH THEIR MUNICIPALITIES TO INCREASE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THOSE CAPITAL PROJECTS THE CITY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TAKE ON AT THAT TIME. AS WELL AS AN EVENTS

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I CAN VOUCH FOR MAIN STREET FORT PIERCE. I'M NOT SUPER FAMILIAR WITH LINCOLN PARK'S MAIN STREET AND THEIR TRACK RECORD.

I WILL BE HONEST WITH THAT. THEY ARE CREDITED THROUGH FLORIDA MAIN STREET.

I BELIEVE THROUGH MAIN STREET AMERICA AS WELL.

WHICH IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT ACCOMPLISHMENT AND VERY WELL STRUCTURED VETTING PROCESS TO EVEN BE PARTICIPATING AND CALL YOURSELF A MAIN STREET. I ALSO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER GAINS. I AIN'T GIVING ANYBODY 50 GRAND FOR NOTHING WITHOUT SPECIFIC DELIVERABLES. I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS CONTRACT IS LAYING OUT. THERE'S SOME SERIOUS HARD DEADLINES IN THERE AND SERIOUS THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE ACCOMPLISHED IN ORDER FOR THEM TO RECEIVE THAT MONEY.

I'M COMFORTABLE WITH AT LEAST GIVING THEM A CHANCE AND THAT THEY CAN SHOW THAT THEY CAN WORK FOR THAT MONEY AND THAT THE CITY IS GETTING THE BENEFIT THAT WE NEED IN RETURN. I THINK FORT PIERCE MAIN STREET SHOULD BE COMING UP THE NEXT MEETING OR AT SOME POINT.

THEY ARE WORKING OUT THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS. IT'S HARD TO QUALIFY, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. BUT WE CAN DO THAT.

WE CAN QUALIFY HOW MANY BUSINESSES THAT FORT PIERCE MAIN STREET HAS SPOKEN TO AND GOTTEN INTO LEASES SPACES IN DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE.

THEY HAVE THE MAGAZINE THAT GOES OUT DETAILING OPEN VACANCIES IN DOWNTOWN. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THEY DO WITH A LITTLE BIT AMOUNT OF MONEY, TWO PEOPLE IN THE OFFICE. I'M A HUGE PROPONENT OF MAIN STREET IN GENERAL. I THINK WE AT LEAST OWE IT TO LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET TO SEE WHAT THIS RELATIONSHIP WILL LOOK LIKE WITH THIS CONTRACT COMING ON BOARD.

THE DEADLINES IN THE CONTRACT, QUARTERLY UPDATES.

IT'S UP TO US TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.

I FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING THAT. THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

>> MR. JOHNSON?

>> JUST BRIEFLY. I THINK I'M THE ONE THAT ASKED THE QUESTIONS, OF COURSE.

IT'S REAL CLEAR TO ME THAT FOR ONCE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A CONTRACT IN PLACE WHEN IT COMES TO PERFORMANCE. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING BEFORE.

NOW WE KNOW WHAT THE GUIDELINES ARE.

LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET KNOWS WHAT THE GUIDELINES ARE.

I THINK WHERE WE ARE IS THAT THERE ARE MILESTONES THAT HAVE TO BE REACHED IF MONIES ARE GOING TO BE TRANSFERRED TO THAT PARTICULAR ACCOUNT. THERE'S NOTHING PAID IN ADVANCE TO ANYTHING. IT'S MORE, COME WITH RECEIPTS AND/OR THE MILESTONES HERE THAT ARE CLEARLY OUTLINED IN THE ACTUAL CONTRACT, WHICH, OF COURSE, IS ON LINE AND A PART OF THE PACKET.

I THINK FOR ME -- WE USED TO RUN THIS OUT OF FPRA.

WHO IN STAFF IS MONITORING THIS? WHO IN STAFF IS RUNNING THIS?

>> CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. AW SPECIAL PROJECT MANAGER.

>> SHE WILL COLLECT INFORMATION AND MILESTONES AND CHECKING AND ALL STUFF ASKED FOR HERE?

>> CORRECT.

>> THAT WOULD COME -- WOULD THAT COME BEFORE US THEN TO HEAR SUCH SAID PRESENTATION AND APPROVAL OF THE DISBURSEMENT OF FUNDS?

>> IF YOU REQUEST, WE CAN PRESENT IT TO YOU.

WE RECEIVE THOSE QUARTERLY WITH SPECIFIC DATES THEY ARE DUE TO US. WE CAN PUT IT ON THE FOLLOWING

AGENDA. >> WHAT'S APPARENT TO ME IS THERE ARE A NUMBER OF US WHO SERVED WITH LINCOLN PARK AND ATTENDED CERTAIN EVENTS. WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH SOME OF THOSE. I THINK THE PUBLIC HAS MADE COMMENTS THAT THEY MAY NOT BE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO MAY NOT BE AWARE. THE COMPROMISE IS EXACTLY THAT.

STAFF, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT THEY COME BACK WHEN THEY MAKE THEIR QUARTERLY PRESENTATION SO THAT WE CAN HEAR, WE CAN HAVE TESTIFY FROM PUBLIC, AND EVERYBODY CAN BE ON ONE ACCORD AND WE CAN DECIDE AT THAT POINT TO ALLOCATE, MOVE $12,500 IN

REIMBURSEMENT. >> SURE.

I THINK IT'S SEMI-ANNUALLY. DO YOU WANT TO MOVE THAT TO QUARTERLY?

>> YEAH. QUARTERLY.

WE CAN START ON THE TRACK RECORD.

LOOK AT THIS AND THAT'S BOTH MAIN STREETS. I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR THAT WE GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO COME BEFORE THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION. WE CAN WEIGH IN AND SEE HOW THAT GOES AND. I THINK THAT'S A WAY FOR US TO KEEP OUR EYE ON THIS.

THAT'S A FRIENDLY SUGGESTION WHERE I'M AT.

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HELP THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND WHAT HAS HAPPENED.

>> SHE'S THE STAFF MEMBER WHO WORKED

UP THE DELIVERABLES? >> CORRECT.

I'M GOOD WITH THAT, IF WE CAN DO THAT.

>> MADAM MAYOR? COMMISSIONERS. THE WAY THIS AGREEMENT IS STRUCTURED HAS BI- ANNUAL REPORTING WITH THE QUARTERLY WRITTEN REPORTS. IF THE REQUEST OF THE COMMISSION IS TO CHANGE THIS TO QUARTERLY PRESENTATIONS TO THE CITY COMMISSION, WE WOULD NEED TO DISCUSSION THAT WITH LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET AND CHANGE THIS DOCUMENT AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU ONCE THEY HAVE AGREED TO THAT CHANGE. IF THAT'S MAJORITY CONSENSUS, I'M SEEING A LOT OF HEAD NODDING FROM COMMISSIONER GAINS MAINLY, BUT IF THAT'S THE CONSENSUS, WE NEED TO PROCEED IN THE MANNER.

WE COULD BRING IT BACK TO YOU AT A SUBSEQUENT MEETING.

>> IF WE WANT TO APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, WE JUST SAY WE ARE APPROVING IT WITH EXPECTED CHANGES?

>> CONTRACT CHANGE. CONTRACT NEEDS TO BE MODIFIED.

>> I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE MODIFICATION. WE WILL MAKE THE MODIFICATION, THE FINAL FORM WILL COME BACK FOR YOU BEFORE YOU LIKELY CONSENT WITH THE ONE CHANGE SO LONG AS LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET DOES AGREE TO THAT.

A SLIGHT CLARIFICATION IN HOW THIS IS BEING DISCUSSED.

THE DELIVERABLES RELATED TO THE MONEY, THE DISBURSEMENTS ARE AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH QUARTER.

THE DELIVERABLES COME IN RELATED TO WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT PREVIOUS QUARTER.

IT'S NOT A REIMBURSEMENT GRANT OF WHAT WE HAVE HEARD A LOT PREVIOUSLY. WHEN IT COMES IN AT THE END OF THE FIRST QUARTER, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU ARE NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT'S BEEN PROVIDED, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO TERMINATE THE CONTRACT MOVING FORWARD AT THAT POINT.

THE PREVIOUS 12, $12,500 WAS DISBURSED.

>> THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.

>> I GOT A COUPLE MORE. I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO -- WALK DOWN SOME DARK ROADS HERE OR GET INTO RABBIT HOLES, BUT I UNDERSTAND WE HAD TWO COMMISSIONERS SERVING EACH ONE ON INDEPENDENT -- ON THE INDEPENDENT LINCOLN MAIN STREET BOARD AND MAIN STREET FOR PIERCE MAIN STREET.

THEY RESIGNED DUE TO A THEORETICAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST. I'M SITTING HERE SAYING, I NOT ONLY DON'T SEE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST, I THINK IT'S A HUGE ADVANTAGE TO HAVE A CITY COMMISSION PRESENT IN THESE ORGANIZATIONS.

IT'S UP TO THE GUYS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THAT.

MY TAKE ON IT IS THAT ACCOUNTABILITY STARTS RIGHT AT THE BOARD MEETINGS.

I HAVE A SENSE THAT A CITY COMMISSIONER WILL SIT THERE AND HOLD THE ORGANIZATIONS ACCOUNTABLE IF THEY ARE SERVING ON THE BOARD.

THEY HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN IT.

I HAVE TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY. IS IT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST? IT MAY BE IN VOTING ON THE FUNDING.

SERVING ON THE BOARD AND WORKING WITH THEM, AT LEAST TO NAVIGATE THE CITY, NAVIGATE CITY GOVERNMENT, NAVIGATE THE HOST OF ISSUES THAT COMES WITH OPERATING THESE ORGANIZATIONS,I FIND IT TO BE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMMISSION.

THE OTHER PART OF THAT IS IT GIVES THAT PARTICULAR CITY COMMISSIONER THE ABILITY TO ADVOCATE ON THEIR BEHALF ANDAND THE POSITIVES OF THE ORGANIZATION AS JAMES WAS DOING EARLIER. HE MENTIONED SOME THINGS I WAS OBLIVIOUS TO. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF ADVANTAGES. THAT'S UP TO THE GENTLEMEN THAT WERE SERVING ON THE BOARDS.

I WOULD ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY, IS THERE TRULY A CONFLICT HERE?

>> WE ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO THE COMMISSION ON ETHICS TO OBTAIN AN OPINION FROM THE COMMISSION ON ETHICS.

THE ISSUE IS PREVIOUSLY THESE WERE GRANTS.

GRANTS AND THEN WHEN YOU PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT HAVE DELIVERABLES, YOU GET INTO THE REALM OF A SERVICE CONTRACT THAN A GRANT. THAT'S WHERE THE CRUX OF THIS CAME UP. EACH BOARD HAS A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT ANALYSIS. THESE ARE VERY FACT SPECIFIC ANALYSIS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE RELATED TO FORT PIERCE MAIN STREET WHEN LOOKING AT THIS RELATED TO THEIR RULES OF A COMMISSIONER BEING ON THAT BOARD, IT WAS NOT IN THEIR BYLAWS. IT WAS KIND OF A -- WE LIKE

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THAT'S WHAT RESULTED IN THE COMMISSION ON ETHICS FINDING THERE WAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST TO VOTE ON THIS AGREEMENT. WITH THE LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET, THERE'S AN EXEMPTION THAT CAN APPLY RELATED TO THESE BOARDS. THAT, HOWEVER, WOULD REQUIRE FROM THE COMMISSION A FORMAL OPINION TO -- FROM THEIR BOARD FOR THEM TO SAY THEY ARE GOING TO APPLY AN EXEMPTION WHEN THAT CONFLICT EXISTS.

COMMISSIONER JOHNSON MADE THE DECISION HE MADE MOVING FORWARD ULTIMATELY IT'S HIS ETHICS, SO HE WOULD HAVE TO EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU, HIS THOUGHT PROCESS.

MY PERSPECTIVE, THE ANALYSIS IS CONFLICTS OF INTERESTS EXIST. WHETHER THOSE ARE APPROPRIATE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST THAT CAN HAVE AN EXEMPTION APPLIED, WE ARE STARTING AT A BASELINE OF A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. THE QUESTION IS, HOW MUCH ARE YOU ALL COMFORTABLE WITH IN YOUR PERSONAL CAPACITIES? ULTIMATELY, THOSE ARE YOUR ETHICS CONCERNS TO HAVE.

HOW OFTEN DO YOU WANT TO HAVE AN IN- DEPTH ANALYSIS OF YOUR CONFLICTS. SPEAKING WITH THE OTHER CHARTER MEMBERS, WHAT WE INTEND TO DO IS AN NAL SIS OF THE BOARDS THAT YOU ARE SITTING ON TO SEE WHAT OF THOSE WE BELIEVE HAVE POTENTIAL CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. IT'S NOT THAT JUST GENERAL SERVICE IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

IT'S WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE TYPE OF AGREEMENTS THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN PLACE WHERE YOU START HAVING YOUR CONFLICT OF INTEREST ISSUES.

>> I THINK I UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> I HAVE A WRITTEN OPINION FROM THE COMMISSION ON ETHICS YOU CAN READ.

>> I JUST THOUGHT THAT IT WAS BENEFICIAL.

>> PARTICULARLY CAME TO A HEAD DURING THIS CONTRACT NEGOTIATING PERIOD. I WOULD BE VOTING ON IT AS A CITY COMMISSIONER AND A BOARD MEMBER. IT GOT YUCKY.

I HAD THAT CONVERSATION. I'M STILL GOING TO BE VOLUNTEERING AND HELPING OUT AS MUCH AS I CAN. JUST NO LONGER

A VOTING MEMBER. >> I RESPECT YOUR DECISION.

>> IT MADE IT MORE CLEAR FOR ME, BECAUSE NOW I CAN BE A BETTER ADVOCATE FOR MAIN STREET FORT PIERCE BECAUSE I'M NOT ON THEIR BOARD. I CAN SAFELY COME UP HERE AND TALK ABOUT ALL THE GOOD THINGS THAT THEY DO AND NOT HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

>> ARE YOU FINISHED? THAT'S MY POINT FOLLOWING UP ON WHAT YOU SAID.

IF THEY CAN'T -- IF WE CAN'T HAVE A COMMISSION ON CERTAIN COMMITTEES, WE ARE WALLING OURSELF OFF FROM INFORMATION.

I GUESS IT'S NOBODY'S FAULT. DID YOU EXPLORE -- I THOUGHT WHEN COMMISSIONERS WERE ASSIGNED TO SOMETHING, EXCEPT FOR THE PENSION BOARD, IN THE CHARTER, THAT'S THE SERVICE WAS EX- OWE FISH YO.

>> IT HOLDS THE SAME RULES. YES, MA'AM.

THERE ARE DIFFERENT ANALYSES DONE DEPENDING ON WHAT THOSE ARE. AGAIN, THAT STARTS GETTING YOU INTO THE RABBIT HOLE OF VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AND WHETHER YOU ULTIMATELY HAVE A CONFLICT.

THEN WHETHER THAT WOULD NEED TO GO TO THE FULL COMMISSION ON ETHICS BOARD FOR FORMAL OPINION AS TO WHETHER A CONFLICT EXISTS THAT IS VERY FACT SPECIFIC.

SO AGAIN, IT'S WHAT COMFORTABLENESS ARE YOU INDIVIDUALLY WITH THOSE ETHIC CONSIDERATIONS?

>> SEEMS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE. THEN AGAIN -- I AGREE WITH YOU, IF YOU ARE SERVING SOMETHING AND IT'S DOING GOOD FOR THE CITY AND YOU WANT TO VOLUNTEER AND WANT TO BE A PART OF IT --

>> MADAM MAYOR, I UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTRATION. IF YOU REMEMBER BACK WHETHER N I FIRST STARTED ON THE RETIREMENT BOARD, I BROUGHT THE SAME ISSUES UP.

I WAS VOTING ON MONEY AND VOTING ON RESOLUTIONS TO BRING BACK TO US, AND I ASKED TWO ATTORNEYS NOW THAT -- WE GOT A SECOND ATTORNEY ON THE RETIREMENT BOARD.

WHAT I DON'T WANT -- NONE OF US WANTS IT.

TO BE THE SUBJECT OF A FULL ETHICS COMMITTEE REPORT.

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AN ETHICS. >> I AM WITH YOU ON THAT.

>> ONE FINAL POINT. I KNOW I HAVE KIND OF DRAGGED THIS OUT FIRST OF THERE WAS A POINT TO THE RETIREMENT BOARD WITH COMMISSIONER GAINES I WAS APPOINTED SO I KNEW HE HAD DONE THE VETTING ALREADY SO I WOULD HAVE NO ETHICAL ISSUES. BOTH OF US WERE SERVING ON THE SAME BOARD THAT'S A WHOLE ANOTHER , BUT IT'S IN THE CHARTER AND I'M GLAD THERE WERE TWO OF US ON THERE CANDIDLY. THE LAST TOPIC I HAD TO BRING UP WAS RELATIVE TO LINKIN PARK MAIN STREET AND SPACE ISSUE. THIS IS SOMETHING I'M GOING TO REQUEST WE LOOK INTO IN MORE DETAIL , I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO THE WHOLE COMMISSION FOR THE MEANS COURT PROPERTY, I'M NOT GOING THERE BUT THESE FOLKS ARE OPERATING OUT OF THE CARS TO RUN THE ORGANIZATION. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THE SPACE ALLOCATED FOR THEM HAS REMAINED UNTOUCHED WITH NO RENOVATION WORK AND IT IS NOT HABITABLE FOR OFFICER ORGANIZATIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO GET TO THE BOTTOM AS TO WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO GET THE ISSUE RESOLVED NOT JUST FOR THEM, BUT ON A GLOBAL PERSPECTIVE SO THAT'S A QUESTION I KNOW THERE'S NOT AN ANSWER NOW, BUT I BELIEVE FOR THE ORGANIZATION, THEY NEED A PLACE WHERE THEY HAVE DOMICILE TO OPERATE AND WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH MEETING IN THE PARKING LOT IS KIND OF ABSURD SO I WOULD LIKE TO GET MORE INFORMATION PERTAINING TO THAT MOVING FORWARD SO WHEREVER THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT IS, NEEDS TO DO A DEEPER DIVE INTO THE WORKINGS AND

INTERRELATIONSHIPS. >> IT IS NOT THE CITY COMMISSION

OBLIGATION TO FIND THEM SPACE. >> THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SUGGESTING. DESIGNATED FOR THIS SPACE BUT THEY ARE NOT THERE. I UNDERSTAND, I REVIEW THE LEASE DOCUMENTS AND UNDERSTAND THE INNER WORKINGS I'M NOT GOING THERE BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GET MORE INFORMATION FROM CITY STAFF AS TO WHERE THE WHOLE THING SITS AND WHERE WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS.

>> SO WE ARE READY FOR A MOTION.

>> ROAD MOVED TO APPROVE ITEMS C ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH CONDITIONS WE CHANGE THE PRESENTATION FROM STAFF AND FROM THE MAIN STREETS TO CORRELATE TO THE COMMISSION.

>> A SECOND? CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[a. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 25-017 - Final Budget Amendment of the FY 2023-24 General Fund Budget. SECOND READING]

>> SECOND READING, ANYONE? THIS IS THE SECOND READING. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS ISSUE, PLEASE

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AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> MOVE APPROVAL ORDINANCE

25-017. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>>

[b. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Review and approval of an application for a Site Plan (Development Review), submitted by applicant Cotleur & Hearing, to construct a ninety-four (94) unit fee simple townhome community located at 4601 Regina Dr., more specifically at Parcel ID: 3403-501-025-000-5.]

READ THE PARCEL ID. >> OKAY THIS IS A QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING, MS. HEDGES WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THE PROCEEDING?

>> CITY COMMISSION SERVES A LEGISLATIVE AND QUASIJUDICIAL ROLE, WHEN ACTING AS LEGISLATIVE BODY THE COMMISSION ENGAGES IN LAWMAKING ACTIVITY BY PASSING LAWS AND ESTABLISHING POLICIES.

WHEN ACTING AS A QUASIJUDICIAL BODY THE COMMISSION APPLIES LAWS AND POLICIES AND IS HELD STRICT PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS.

QUASIJUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS ARE LESS FORMAL THAN PROCEEDINGS BEFORE CIRCUIT COURT BUT ARE MORE FORMAL THAN THE NORMAL COMMISSION MEETING. QUASIJUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS MUST FOLLOW BASIC STANDARDS OF NOTICE AND DUE PROCESS AND DECISIONS ARE MADE BASED ON COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THEREFORE COMMISSIONERS HAVE DUTY TO CONDUCT A QUASIJUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS MORE LIKE JUDGES THAN LEGISLATORS THAT IS WHY THE COMMISSION HAS ESTABLISHED UNIFORM PROCEDURE FOR QUASIJUDICIAL HEARINGS HELD THIS EVENING SORRY THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED THIS EVENING. NO ONE SHOULD APPROACH ANY MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION ON THE DAIS, THE CITY ATTORNEY OR THE CITY CLERK FOLLOWING , I CAN READ I PROMISE, DURING THE HEARING. IF DOCUMENTS ARE TO BE GIVEN TO CITY COURT PLEASE GIVE THEM TO THE SERGEANT AT ARMS, AND HE OF THE POLICE OFFICERS IN THE

CHAMBER. >> THANK YOU. HAS THE ADVERTISING BEEN MET FOR THE ITEM?

>> ADVERTISING FOR THE ITEM HAS BEEN MET.

>> DID YOU ASK ABOUT COMMUNICATIONS?

>> YES MA'AM. >> NOTHING TO REPORT.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

COMMISSIONER TAYLOR? MAHER? >> NO MA'AM. SWEAR IN THE

WEAKNESSES. >> ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SPELL OR FROM TO TELL THE TRUTH THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> CITY STAFF YOU MAY PROCEED.

>> GOOD EVENING MADAME MAYOR, CITY MANAGER, THIS EVENING WE BRING BEFORE YOU A SITE PLAN AT 4601 REGINA DRIVE. THE APPLICANT IS CUTLER AND HEARING PROPERTY OWNERS IV DEVELOPMENT GROUP AND TREASURER TOWNHOMES LLC PARCEL ID 340-3501 340350100250005. IN SUMMARY THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING SITE PLAN REVIEW AND APPROVAL FOR DEVELOPMENT OF TOWNHOMES AT 4601 REGINA DRIVE THE 94 SIMPLE UNITS WILL BE ASSEMBLED INTO 15 SIX OR SEVEN UNIT BUILDINGS. PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT LOCATED ON A PARCEL WITH APPROXIMATELY NINE ACRES. FUTURE LAND USE OF THE PARCEL IS MEDIUM DENSITY WITH ZONING MEDIUM DENSITY R 4. HERE IS A SITE LOCATION OUTLINED THE PARCEL IN YELLOW INDICATING HIGHLIGHTING THE CITY LIMITS THAT SURROUND THE PARCEL. AN AREA OF YOU OF THE PARCEL WITH THE SITE AREA APPROXIMATELY NINE ACRES.

THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THE PARCEL MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL SURROUNDED BY RL GENERAL COMMERCIAL. ZONING IS R 4 MEDIUM DENSITY SURROUNDED BY C-3 R 1 AND R 3 . HERE IS THE SITE PLAN. SHOWING THE LOCATION OF EACH INDIVIDUAL BUILDING. AS IT IS PROPOSED ON THE PROPERTY. SOME SITE PLAN DETAILS INCLUDE THE SITE AREA 9.574 ACRES, PROPOSED UNITS 94. DENSITY

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THE LANDSCAPE PLAN. AND LANDSCAPE DETAILS. INTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY, 37 TREES TO BE PLANTED REQUIRED, THE APPLIANT WILL PROVIDE 61, THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER REQUIRES 79 TREES TO BE PLANTED, THE APPLICANT WILL BE PROVIDING A TOTAL OF 443 INCLUDING SHRUBS. HERE ARE THE ELEVATION RENDERINGS OF THE PROPOSED TOWNHOMES . ELEVATION DETAILS SHOWING THE LEFT, RIGHT AND FRONT PROPERTIES. THE BOARD PROPOSED FOR VARIOUS TOWNHOME UNITS. ACCORDING TO THE CITY CODE SECTION 125-194 AND 125-313, STAFF CONFIRMS PROPOSED APPLICATION MEETS REQUIREMENTS.

PLANNING BOARD AT THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING PUT IT 6-0 IN FAVOR OF APPROVING SITE PLAN, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS FOR CITY COMMISSION TO APPROVE THE SITE PLANT WITH THE FOLLOWING SIX CONDITIONS. WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO GO OVER THE SIX CONDITIONS? CONDITION ONE PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF FINAL CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT SHOULD BE PROVIDED AND SHALL ACKNOWLEDGE THE FOLLOWING. ALL LANDSCAPE SHALL BE INSTALLED, IRRIGATED AND MAINTAINED IN PERPETUIY.

MEDITATION REQUIRED BY THIS SHALL BE REPLACED WITH EQUIVALENT OR BETTER VEGETATION IF IT IS NOT LIVING ALL TREES FOR WHICH CREDIT IS AWARDED IN WHICH SUBSEQUENT DYES SHALL BE REPLACED BY THE SAME OR GREATER NUMBER OF LIVING TREES ACCORDING TO STANDARDS ESTABLISHED IN THIS ARTICLE. MAINTENANCE SHALL INCLUDE READING, ORDERING, MOWING, ET CETERA TO OBTAIN AN ORDERLY APPEARANCE. NUMBER TWO UPDATED ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT SHALL BE REQUIRED TO ISSUANCE OF THE SITE BUILDING PERMIT APPROVAL. NUMBER THREE, FIVE FOOT SIDEWALK SHALL BE INSTALLED ALONG POINSETTIA AVENUE AND APPROVED PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF A FINE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF ANY SITE CLEARING PERMITS APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE TREE MITIGATION SURVEY AND COORDINATE WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FOR REQUIRED MITIGATION OF CITY REGULATED TREES PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED AS A RESULT OF THE SITE DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY.

NUMBER FIVE ADDRESS WILL NEED TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR ALL UNITS PRIOR TO THE BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION. SIX IS JUST A NOTE TO THE ISSUANCE OF DEVELOPMENT PERMIT OR BY THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE DOES NOT CREATE ANY RIGHT ON THE PART OF APPLICANT TO OBTAIN PERMIT FROM THE STATE OF FEDERAL AGENCIES AND DOES NOT CREATE LIABILITY ON THE PART OF THE MUNICIPALITY FOR ISSUANCE OF THE PERMIT IF THE APPLICANT FAILS TO OBTAIN PREREQUISITE APPROVALS OR FULFILL THE OBLIGATION IMPOSED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA AGENCY OR UNDERTAKES ACTIONS THAT RESULT IN VIOLATION OF STATE OR FLORIDA LAW.

RECOMMENDATIONS WOULD BE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH ADDITIONAL OR MODIFIED CONDITIONS OR RECOMMEND

DISAPPROVAL. THANK YOU. >> WHY ARE SIDEWALKS ONLY, WHERE IS POINSETTIA AND WHY ARE THEY NOT ON WHETHER BE?

>> SIDEWALKS ARE BEING PROPOSED ON WHETHER BE AN POINSETTIA IS

HERE ON THE BACK END. >> SIDEWALKS ON BOTH OKAY.

QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> QUICK QUESTION, REGINA DRIVE

IS THAT A COUNTY OR CITY ROAD? >> I BELIEVE A COUNTY ROAD.

>> ANY IMPROVEMENTS BROUGHT TO THAT ROAD COMING IN?

>> REGINA AND POINSETTIA. >> OKAY, BROUGHT UP TO CITY?

WHAT CODE? >> COUNTY CODE YES.

>> THAT INCLUDES CURB AND GUTTER. WE HAVE A DETAIL OR EXPLANATION OF WHAT THEY WILL DO FOR THOSE ROADS?

>> THEY DO NOT HAVE EXPLANATION, THE APPLICANT WAS WORKING WITH

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THE COUNTY. >> I WILL ASK THEM.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? COMMISSIONER GAINES?

>> WHEN WE GET PROJECTS LIKE THIS RIGHT BEHIND TREE MITIGATION AND ALL OF THAT CONDITIONS WE TALK ABOUT TORTOISE, NO TURTLES OR GOPHERS IN THE AREA? WE TALK ABOUT THIS

ALL THE TIME. >> YOU SAW A CONDITION ATTACHED TO THIS SITE PLAN NOW THAT FOLLOWS STATE REQUIREMENT. WE ARE NOT AS A PLANNING DEPARTMENT OR ENTITY ABLE TO DEMAND STATE OR FEDERAL PERMITS OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE ISSUE. WE DO PUT A DISCLAIMER ON LATER . ABOUT ANY PERMITS THAT ARE REQUIRED WILL NEED TO BE DELIVERED DURING THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS.

>> OKAY I DON'T WANT THOSE EMAILS AND I KNOW THEY ARE PROTECTED AND I'M TRYING TO PITCH THE AREA UNDEVELOPED BECAUSE WHEN YOU GO DOWN WATER AND OTHER STUFF AND SOME

UNDISTURBED VEGETATION. >> IT WILL ALL BE INVESTIGATED AND THE APPROPRIATE PERMITS PULLED FROM THE STATE OR FEDERAL

AGENCIES. >> OKAY THANK YOU.

>> THAT IS IN THE DETAIL QUESTION. GO AHEAD.

>> I THINK THE INITIAL SUBMITTAL NOTICED WE NEEDED TO HAVE THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE ON THE SITE PLAN, I DON'T SEE THAT AM I

MISSING IT? >> NO YOU'RE NOT MISSING IT.

WITH THE RESUBMITTAL THE APPLICANT DID PROVIDE EACH HOME IS GOING TO HAVE THEIR OWN PRIVATE DUMPSTER COLLECTION SO THAT'S WHY THE DUMPSTER DETAILS ARE NOT ON THERE.

>> THIS IS JUST KIND OF HOUSEKEEPING, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY, BUT IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE HAVE THESE TYPE OF, THE CITY BOUNDARIES KIND OF ALL OVER THE PLACE IN THIS AREA IT WILL BE NICE TO SEE THE COUNTY ZONING AROUND IT, AS WELL AS PART OF THE PRESENTATION SO WE CAN MAKE SURE. THERE ARE

STILL PEOPLE LIVING THERE. >> UNDERSTOOD, GOOD IDEA.

COMMISSIONER BRODERICK ? >> FOLLOWING UP ON THE TRASH REMOVAL QUESTION. EACH TOWNHOME IS NOT GOING TO HAVE A INDIVIDUAL DUMPSTER, I ASSUME .

>> INDIVIDUAL TRASHCAN. >> THE ASSOCIATION IS CONTRACTING WITH PRIVATE HAULING OR IS THE CITY PROVIDING THAT

SERVICE? >> THEY WILL BE FEE SIMPLE SO THE OWNERS WOULD BE PROVIDING THEIR OWN COLLECTION .

>> COMMISSIONER I AM NOT CERTAIN HOW THE OVERALL REFUSE COLLECTION WILL BE HANDLED , THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND THEY WOULD

KNOW MORE. >> SECOND QUESTION WAS RELATIVE TO THE SCHOOL KIDS PICK UP ON BUS STOPS. WHAT ACCOMMODATION I'M ASSUMING THERE'S NOTHING ON SITE SO WHAT IS GOING ON WITH

THIS? >> THE APPLICANT WILL BE ABLE TO

SPEAK WITH THAT. >> THE APPLICANT DID RECOGNIZE A SCHOOL BUS STOP FURTHER OF THE STREET WITH A PROVISION OF THE SIDEWALK THE ANTICIPATE THAT WILL BE USED.

>> SIDEWALKS ARE BEING PUT IN ON THE FRONT OF THEIR SITE I AM ASSUMING OR THEY'RE GOING PAST? WE CAN ASK THEM. I WILL HOLD MY INQUIRY UNTIL WE SPEAK TO THE APPLICANT.

>> CAN WE GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN ONE MORE TIME? OKAY, OKAY.

THE MAIN ENTRANCE WILL BE OFF OF THE WEATHER BE?

>> THAT IS CORRECT. >> IS THERE A FIRE EMERGENCY

EXIT ENTRY OR LOCKED GATE? >> THERE IS NO LOCKED GATE, THE COMMUNITY ALTHOUGH THERE IS A DECORATIVE FENCE THAT SURROUNDS

THE PARCEL IT IS NOT GATED. >> EVERYTHING COMES AND GOES OFF

OF WEATHERBY. >> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> OKAY. >> RIGHT NOW IT IS TWO LANES SO THE SCHOOL , WHAT'S THE ENTRANCE FOR THE SCHOOL COMPARED TO THE ENTRY POINT FOR THE SCHOOL? I WAS LOOKING AT A AERIAL MAP A MINUTE AGO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THIS LINE IN HERE

WITH WEATHERBY. >> IT WOULD BE FURTHER EAST.

>> JUST A LITTLE BIT. >> HIGHWAY ONE.

>> FURTHER EAST AND THE ENTRYWAY IN THAT AREA IS FURTHER EAST, AS

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>> ONE QUICK FOLLOW-UP RELATIVE TO EXTERIOR FENCING, I KNOW THEY'RE PUTTING IN A LANDSCAPE BUFFER WHAT'S THE HEIGHT OF THE

FENCE? >> I BELIEVE 10 FEET, AS WELL.

>> THE ALUMINUM RAIL FENCE. >> HOW TALL IS IT?

>> I BELIEVE EIGHT . >> SEVEN FEET 3/8.

>> IT'S ABOUT EIGHT FEET. >> I THINK THE APPLICANT CAN CLEAR THIS UP. IT LOOKS LIKE FOUR FEET.

>> WE WILL ASK THE APPLICANT. >> PROPERTY JUST TO THE WEST

ZONE C 3 COMMERCIAL. >> THAT'S CORRECT. WHY IS THAT ZONED COMMERCIAL? THERE ARE MANUFACTURED HOMES?

>> OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THOSE LOCATIONS , GIVEN COMMERCIAL OR COMMERCIAL AS THE FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING MAP WAS PREPARED WITH IT BEING IN PROXIMITY TO U.S. 1 , THE HOPE WAS AT SOME POINT THAT AREA WOULD BE COMMERCIAL.

>> INTERESTING. >> OKAY. ONE OTHER QUESTION.

WHAT IS THE HISTORY OF THIS? I WANT TO KNOW WHAT PARTICULARLY I ASSUME THE RECTANGULAR LAKE DID NOT COME NATURALLY. NO?

>> IT LOOKS LIKE A MAN-MADE STRUCTURE.

>> IT IS TOO PERFECT. >> I DON'T KNOW WHY. MAYBE IT WOULD'VE BEEN A SITE PLAN IN THE PAST.

>> THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING, IF SOMETHING WAS APPROVED

PREVIOUSLY. >> OKAY THANK YOU.

>> ANYTHING ELSE FOR STAFF? >> NOW I WOULD LIKE FOR THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD AND I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF , ONCE YOU GET TO THE MICROPHONE.

>> CAN WE MAKE SURE TO GET A COPY OF THAT? I WAS SUPPOSED TO GET THAT IN ADVANCE. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD EVENING, FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS AND HEARING AND I'VE BEEN SWORN IN TO TALK ABOUT TREASURE TOWNHOMES OUR 94 UNIT TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF FORT

PIERCE. >> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

>> I DON'T, THEY DID A GREAT JOB PROVIDING INFORMATION AND I CAN PROVIDE CLARITY ON OTHER INFORMATION. I WON'T BOTHER GOING OVER SOME OF THE GENERAL INFORMATION WITH THE PROJECT, STAFF COVERED THAT VERY WELL. IN THE PROPERTY IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM AND R 4 ZONING DESIGNATION ALLOWING STANDARD 10 UNITS PER ACRE WE ARE UNDER THAT. ADDITIONAL OPORTUNITIES TO GET UP TO 12 UNITS IF YOU INCORPORATE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ITEMS AND WE ARE NOT PROPOSING TO INCREASE DENSITY ABOVE 10 UNITS PER ACRE. TALKING ABOUT THE PROPERTY LOCATION IT IS LOCATED JUST OFF U.S. HIGHWAY 1 COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR AS THE COMMISSIONER NOTED ADJACENT PROPERTIES ARE COMMERCIAL TO THE WEST. AND YOU WILL SEE A LONG U.S. 1 TRANSITION DENSITIES GOING FROM HIGHER DENSITY COMMERCIAL ALONG THE MAIN CORRIDOR AND MOVING FURTHER AWAY FROM THE CORRIDOR YOU HAVE A TOWNHOME COMMUNITY OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE AS YOU MOVE INTO MORE SINGLE-FAMILY AREAS. FROM LARGE-SCALE PLANNING THIS IS A COMMON PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT AND WE SEE A CROSS ON THE WEST SIDE VERY SIMILAR DEVELOPMENT TOWNHOME COMMUNITY WHETHER TOWNHOMES SIMILAR DENSITY AGAIN LOCATED JUST OFF THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR . I WOULD JUST JUMP INTO THE SITE PLAN. SO AGAIN AS WE SAID, THE PROPERTY IS MEETING ALL

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SO A NUMBER OF GOOD-QUALITY COMMUNITY BENEFITS AND DESIGN ELEMENTS AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. I KNOW THERE'S A COUPLE.

>> COMMISSIONERS WANT TO REMIND? >> THE STREET WAS REGINA AND YOU MAY BE NEGOTIATED OR HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNTY AND WHAT WE LEARNED WITH REGINA DRIVE WHICH IS TO THE EAST, YES.

>> AS PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT WE WILL BE REQUIRED TO MEET COUNTY REGULATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH IMPROVEMENT OF THE ROADWAY. WE DON'T HAVE A FINALIZED PLAN FOR WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE BUT I ASSURE YOU WE WILL MEET ALL REQUIREMENTS OF THE COUNTY RIGHT

AWAY. >> BRODERICK ANY OTHER

QUESTIONS? >> YES I HAVE ONE. WHAT WAS THE LOGIC OR DISCUSSION BEHIND HAVING EACH INDIVIDUAL TOWNHOUSE HAVING THEIR OWN TRASH RECEPTACLE?

>> A LOT OF IT IS HOW THE COMMUNITIES FUNCTION. SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF WAYS YOU WOULD MAKE A COMMUNITY DUMPSTER FUNCTION. EITHER SELF-SERVICE OF EACH INDIVIDUAL RESIDENT HAS TO GO THROW THE TRASH IN A LARGE DUMPSTER OR THERE IS A COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION TO COME AND PICK IT UP SO EITHER WAY, IT IS A FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN TERMS OF THE HOA FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT SERVICE AS WELL AS IT PROVIDES A CENTRAL AREA WITHIN THE COMMUNITY IN AN UNDESIRED LOCATION MORE ORDERS, MORE TRASH IN ONE AREA AND SO WE SEE A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THAT DESIGN.

THE MOST EFFECTIVE TRASH DISPOSAL SOLUTION WE FOUND FOR

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>> OKAY THANK YOU. >> THAT MEANS YOU WILL BE CONTRACTING OR FORT PIERCE COULD GARBAGE ?

>> I DON'T THINK IT HAS BEEN FINALIZED YET BUT WE DID GET RECOGNITION FROM WASTE MANAGEMENT THAT THEY WOULD SERVICE THE COMMUNITY IF THEY NEEDED INDIVIDUAL CONTRACT.

>> SO GARBAGE TRUCKS WILL BE INSIDE THE UNIT? THE

DEVELOPMENT. >> ENTER THE COMMUNITY AND CIRCULATE THE COMMUNITY AND THEN EXIT.

>> WHOEVER HAS IT, RIGHT , RIGHT. QUESTIONS?

>> I AM TRYING TO GET CLEAR ON THIS GARBAGE BECAUSE YOU SAID ,

IT'S GOING TO BE THE CITY. >> I DON'T THINK THERE'S A

CHOICE. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING WITH.

94 HOMES ALREADY. SO >> GET IT OUT, EXACTLY.

>> I DON'T WANT ANY WE DID NOT KNOW , SO BASICALLY BY US GOING OR BY YOU GOING TO SOMEBODY PUTTING THEIR OWN TRASH CANS

THIS IS ANOTHER CITY PICK UP. >> YES, 94 PICKUPS. SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE SAYING. IT IS INSIDE THE CITY OKAY. HE WAS HERE, I THINK HE LEFT. OKAY. THAT'S MY QUESTION.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

>> 94 MORE PICKUPS IN THE ZONE. >> HE LEFT.

>> OKAY. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? EVERYBODY GOOD? OKAY, ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE , PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NO ONE, APPLICANT ANYTHING FURTHER TO SAY BEFORE I CLOSE THE PUBLIC

HEARING? >> APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING ANOTHER GREAT DEVELOPMENT TO THE CITY , THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. THIS HEARING IS CLOSED, BACK TO THE COMMISSION. ANY DISCUSSION OR EMOTION?

>> I WAS ASKING TO MAKE SURE I GET THE PRESENTATION. I THINK JASON IS COMING BACK IN IF YOU HAVE THAT QUESTION ABOUT THE

TRASH. >> ARE YOU WANTING TO ASK?

>> AS LONG AS HE HEARD ME. >> THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

>> I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLEAR BECAUSE WE WERE SAYING WASTE MANAGEMENT AND WE WERE SAYING THEY WOULD CONTRACT WITH SOMEBODY AND THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS.

>> IT DOES IN THE DEVELOPMENT WHEN IT IS ALL ONE COMMERCIAL

DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS NOT. >> IS GOING TO BE OUR TRUCKS GOING TO PICK UP THE TRASH JUST WANT THAT TO BE CLEAR.

>> JASON PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. THERE WAS DISCUSSION THE GARBAGE CANS ARE LEASED FROM THE CITY AND THE PAY CHARGE FOR THE DUMPSTERS SO WHATEVER THE RATE IS WHEN THEY ARE THERE SIX YARDS, EIGHT YARDS WHATEVER IT IS AND THEY PAY THE FEE ON THAT.

>> NOT INDIVIDUAL CANS. >> INDIVIDUAL UNITS, THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING. SO THAT'S WHERE WE LOOK. THAT NEEDS TO BE , THAT SET UP , THEY NEED TO FIND A WAY TO PUT DUMPSTERS AND IF THAT'S THE CASE THEY NEED TO SET ASIDE AREAS WHERE IT CAN BE SERVED BY A FRONT LOW GARBAGE TRUCK BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO BE OVER THERE DUMPING THAT MANY CANS IN A SYSTEM LIKE THAT, USUALLY YOU PUT THEM IN THE CORNERS OF THE PROPERTY, THAT'S

MY EXPERIENCE WITH THAT. >> THE APPLICANT IS BEHIND YOU.

>> WE DON'T WANT TO GO FOR A AREA LIKE THAT AND DUMP SINGLE GARBAGE CANS. WE WOULD WANT A DUMPSTER LOCATION AND CHARGE

THAT WAY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

SORRY, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND GO AHEAD.

>> AGAIN, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO CHANGE THE SITE PLAN IF YOU WANT

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AS I SAID THERE ARE AREAS WITH ADDITIONAL PARKING ABOVE WHAT WE ARE REQUIRED BY CODE AND IF THE COMMISSION SAW THIS WAS A ISSUE WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO MODIFY AND ADD A DUMPSTER FOR THE REASONS STATED BEFORE WE DID NOT DO THAT INITIALLY. IF THAT COULD BE AN ISSUE WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO MAKE THE CHANGE AND WORK WITH THE

CITY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. >> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE BEFORE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN? CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN. COMMISSIONER TAYLOR AND

THEN COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. >> FOR THE RECORD MY DIGITAL AGENDA DOES NOT SAY QUASIJUDICIAL. THE PRINTED ONE

SAYS. >> THAT GOT CORRECTED.

>> DO WE HAVE ANYTHING IN OUR CODE THAT WOULD REQUIRE SOMETHING THIS DENSE TO HAVE DUMPSTERS INSTEAD OF TRISH

ADDITIONAL TRASH CANS? >> IT IS USUALLY NEGOTIATION BETWEEN APPLICANT AND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT HOW THEY HANDLE VARIOUS THINGS. SUCH AS WE ANALYZE BASED ON THE CODE REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF THE ZONING DISTRICT. BECAUSE IT IS STRAIGHT ZONING THEY ARE IN A PARTICULAR REQUIREMENT. IF WE GET INTO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENTS THAT'S WHEN IT GETS MORE INTENSE IN TERMS OF THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT

WITH WHAT THEY ARE DOING. >> I KIND OF SEE IT AS GIVE OR TAKE WHERE WE HAVE GOT THE DUMPSTER LOCATION , IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE SMELLY BUT YOU ALSO DON'T WANT A DUMP TRUCK DRIVING AROUND YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR TWO HOURS ON A TUESDAY MORNING AT 7:00 A.M. SO IT IS KIND OF WHAT YOU WANT BECAUSE THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD IS GOING TO HEAR THAT FOR HOWEVER ANY HOURS IT WILL TAKE TO HIT EVERY TRASH CAN ON THAT PROPERTY. THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. ENVIRONMENTALLY AND ON THE ROADS IT MAKES MORE SENSE, A COUPLE OF DUMPSTERS AND DRIVE AROUND , PROBABLY TWICE BECAUSE YOU WILL BE ON EITHER SIDE SO THAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO ME. FOR USAGE AND THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR BACKED US UP ON

THAT. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK?

>> I AGREE WITH YOUR COMMENTS I WOULD PREFER TO SEE DUMPSTER LOCATIONS. I THINK THEY MAY BE SUBJECT TO GOING TO OUTSIDE SERVICE LIKE WASTE MANAGEMENT OR SERVE PRO WHOEVER IS IN THAT PARTICULAR MARKET AND DIRECTOR FREEMAN IS THAT SOMETHING ADMINISTRATIVELY WE CAN HANDLE ON SITE PLAN MODIFICATION AND DO WITH THAT INTERNALLY ? SO IT DOES NOT TO BE DELAYED AND COME

BACK? >> I BELIEVE SO, THE AMENDMENTS WOULD NOT ACCOUNT FOR MORE THAN 5% OF THE CHANGE OF THE SITE PLAN SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

>> I WOULD SUGGEST THAT'S THE PATH WE WANT TO GO. THE OTHER LOGICAL PART OF THIS COMMISSIONER TAYLOR HIT ON THE NOISE AND DISRUPTION ISSUE. TEXTING PUBLIC WORKS WITH ANOTHER 100 UNITS IN THIS SMALL AREA WITH OUR LACK OF PERSONNEL AND LACK OF EQUIPMENT IS A SERIOUS CONSIDERATION. I DON'T NEED PUBLIC WORKS COMING FORWARD TO SAY WE NEED ANOTHER SIDE LOADER TRUCK AND WE'RE NOT GENERATING REVENUE TO OFFSET THE COST OF THAT. I FORGET WHAT THE COST OF THE TRUCKS ARE NOW, SOMEWHERE IN HALF 1 MILLION BUCKS I THINK. I KNOW NOBODY WANTS TO SAY BUT IT IS DOLLAR AND CENTS THINGS , TOO SO LET THEM AND APPARENTLY DEAL WITH THEIR OWN HAULER AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PLANNING ÚDEPARTMENT DEAL WITH THIS ADMINISTRATIVELY TO CLEAN THIS UP AND GET THE SITE PLAN MOVING

FORWARD. >> DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING

COMMISSIONER GAINES? >> I SAID ENOUGH, I'M GOOD AND I KNOW AS EVERYONE IS SAYING YOU HAVE HOUSES LIKE THIS. SO OUR TRUCKS HAVE GOT TO GO THIS WAY AND TURN AROUND MAKE A U-TURN SOME BACKWARD WAY TO GET TO THE OTHER SIDE. I KNOW HOW THE TRUCKS ARE AND WE ARE WAITING ON TRUCKS. I WANT TO BRING IT UP TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CLEAR BEFORE WE VOTED SO I'M GOOD.

>> THANK YOU. I WOULD'VE THOUGHT THIS WOULD'VE COME UP

IN TRC . >> IT MAY HAVE BEEN.

>> EXACTLY. READY FOR A MOTION? >> I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

I'M STILL LEARNING ABOUT ALL OF THIS PROCESSES AND WHATEVER. DO WE HAVE ANY NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS ON MAJOR SITE PLAN

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STREET AND THE NEWSPAPER? >> AT THE MOMENT, NO BUT WE ARE WORKING ON REVISED NOTIFICATION, HOLISTIC CHANGE TO THE NOTIFICATION SYSTEM THAT WE USE THAT HAS JUST GOT BURIED UNDER

PILES OF OTHER PRIORITIES. >> FOR ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN A LITTLE MORE. JUST WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT. I THINK THE COUNTY DOES 500 TO 1000 FEET AROUND ANY TYPE OF MAJOR CHANGE LIKE THIS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE ARE HAVING THESE POCKETS OF CITY JURISDICTION AND COUNTY JURISDICTION WHERE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY KNOWS WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THEIR STREET JUST PART OF BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND IT CAN BE DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO COME TO THE MEETINGS AND NOBODY LIKES THESE MEETINGS SO I WOULD LIKE MORE EMPHASIS ON GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MAKING SURE THEY ARE AWARE OF IT . I THINK THEY DO A LETTER WITH YOU CAN APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE KIND OF THING OR EMAIL , THAT KIND OF STUFF. I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT, AS WE SEE MORE OF THESE OR WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS AWARE IT'S HAPPENING. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO READ THOSE SIGNS WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING BY 40 MILES PER HOUR WITH TWO PARAGRAPHS OF TEXT. I KNOW OURS ARE SMALLER BUT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT WE MAKE BEST EFFORTS TO ENSURE EVERYONE IN THE AREA KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON AND GET THEIR OPINION.

>> MAJOR CHANGE, YES. ANYTHING ELSE? A MOTION?

>> IT WOULD MAKE MOTION TO APPROVE . ITEM B. WITH THE CHANGE THAT DUMPSTER SERVICE BE ACCOMMODATED ON SITE VERSUS

INDIVIDUAL UNIT PICK UP. >> SECOND?

>> I WILL SECOND JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD. 12 B. AND I WILL

SECOND. >> FURTHER CLARIFICATION SIX STAFF CONDITIONS, PLUS THE SEVENTH WHERE YOU LOOK AT A DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE TO ACCOMMODATE RATHER THAN

INDIVIDUAL TRASH CANS? >> THERE YOU GO THAT'S WHAT I

WAS THINKING. >> THANK YOU.

>> EMOTION AND A SECOND LET'S CALL THE ROLL.

>>

[a. Resolution 25-R23 Granting or Denying a Time Extension for the Sale Agreement of 604 S 6th Street.]

>> NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION 25-R 23 RESOLUTION OF CITY OF FORT PIERCE FLORIDA AUTHORIZING OR DENYING AMENDMENT TO THE SURPLUS PROPERTY SALE AGREEMENT AT 605 SOUTH SIXTH STREET RELATED TO REQUEST FOR EXTENSION OF TIME TO INCLUDE ANY NECESSARY LITIGATION PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE

DATE. >> MISS GARCIA THIS IS YOUR

ITEM? >> IT IS MY ITEM, GOOD EVENING.

SO, THIS EVENING I AM HERE FOR THE REQUEST FOR THE EXTENSION REQUEST OF 604 SOUTH SIXTH STREET ONE OF THE SURPLUS PROPERTIES WE SOLD . LOCATED JUST SOUTH OF DELAWARE AVENUE.

ONE OF THE MOST RECENT RENDERINGS FROM THE DEVELOPER, SENT TO US AND IT IS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA. VERY UNIQUE DESIGN.

TIMELINE FEBRUARY 5, 2020 FOR THE CITY AWARDED THE RFQ TO THE DEVELOPER , APRIL 1 THE CITY AUTHORIZE SURPLUS PROPERTY SALE AGREEMENT FOR $15,000. WE CONVEYED PROPERTY ON JUNE 28, 2024. THE PERMIT APPLICATION DEADLINE FOR THE PERMIT SUBMITTAL WAS JANUARY 9 SUBMITTAL WAS JANUARY 9, 2025.

THE SALE AGREEMENT INCLUDED THE FOLLOWING TIMELINE. APPLICATIONS FOR APPROVAL AND BUILDING PERMITS , THE GRANTEE SHALL APPLY FOR ANY AND ALL ACQUIRED APPROVALS, PERMITS AND ALL OTHER PERMITS WITHIN 195 CALENDAR DAYS FROM THE CONVEYANCE OF THE TITLE, THE DEADLINE JANUARY 9 JANUARY 9, 2025 HE DID NOT MEET THE DEADLINE, DEADLINE NUMBER TWO WILL BE UPCOMING WHEN HE MEETS THE FIRST AND THAT IS THE GRANTEE SHALL COMMENCE CONSTRUCTION WITHIN 30 CALENDAR DAYS OF RECEIVING REQUIRED APPROVALS AND BUILDING PERMITS. LASTLY CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY

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IF THE EXTENSION IS GRANTED THE NEW DEADLINE WOULD BE JUNE 28, 2025. DURING THIS EXTENSION REQUEST PROCESS, HE HAS CONTINUED TO WORK DILIGENTLY TO ADVANCE HIS DESIGN PROCESS. MR. MCVEIGH DID SUBMIT ON MARCH 25, 2025 THEREFORE EXTENSION IS GRANTED TONIGHT THIS WOULD FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE TIMELINE UNDER SECTION A , APPLICATIONS FOR APPROVAL AND BUILDING PERMITS. MR. MCVEIGH HAS COMMITTED TO SHORTENING ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE FROM 14 MONTHS , TO 12 MONTHS. I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AND MR. MCVEIGH IS IN THE AUDIENCE AS WELL IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS

FOR HIM. >> ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

>> MADAME MAYOR? CAN YOU GO BACK A PREVIOUS SLIDE ? THE OTHER ONE. THE ONE YOU SKIPPED WITH THE TIMELINE. WITH THE THINGS,

WITH THE COLORS. >> YES I'M SORRY, THE REQUEST.

>> MAYBE I AM NOT UNDERSTANDING HERE. SO, THE INITIAL DEADLINE WAS JANUARY 9. THAT HAS SINCE COME AND GONE SO HOW WOULD THAT MARCH 25 MEET AN APPLICATION APPROVAL IF THE DEADLINE WAS

MISSED. >> IF APPROVED THIS EVENING HE

WOULD. >> IT WOULD ME THE ORIGINAL

TIMELINE? >> IT WOULD COMPLY WITH THE NEW

TIMELINE YOU WOULD BE APPROVING. >> HOW DOES THIS WORK FOR THE DEADLINE PASSED SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, NOW WE ARE ASKING FOR EXTENSION SEVERAL MONTHS LATER TO ACCOUNT FOR THE EXTENSION THAT HAS JUST BEEN HAPPENING SINCE JANUARY?

>> THEY SUBMITTED REQUEST, WE USUALLY TOUCHBASE ONCE A MONTH PRIOR TO THE DEADLINE, THEY TOUCHBASE WITH ME, THEY INDICATED THEY NEED EXTENSION AND WE HAVE TO SUBMIT REQUEST FOR LEGAL SERVICES TO REVIEW THE AMENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT. SO NOW WE ARE PRESENTING AFTER IT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY LEGAL AND

APPROVED. >> IN YOUR ESTIMATION HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE SPENT DEALING WITH THIS PROJECT?

>> SINCE WE ISSUED THE RFQ? MANY MANY HOURS.

>> I'M JUST GOING TO SAY MY OPINION ON THIS PROGRAM TO BEGIN WITH. I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY THAT HAVE COME TO FRUITION AND HAVE ACTUALLY DONE WHAT THE APPLICANTS SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO. A YEAR TO GET THIS DONE FEELS LIKE AMPLE AMOUNT OF TIME AND THE STAFF TIME THIS HAS COST THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO ME. AND I AM FULLY ADVOCATING THAT WE END ALL OF THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS AND JUST SELL THE PROPERTY AND LET THE MARKET DO WITH THE MARKET DOES. IF A HOUSE NEEDS TO GO THERE THAN HOUSE WILL NO AND A CITY NEEDS TO GET OUT OF THIS WE'RE TRYING TO MANAGE DEVELOPMENT TYPE SITUATIONS BECAUSE IT'S COSTING A LOT OF TIME AND MONEY WITH STAFF TIME AND I FEEL LIKE WE'RE JUST KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AGAIN. NOTHING AGAINST MR. MCVEIGH I'M JUST KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THIS WHOLE PROGRAM IN GENERAL . SO WITH THAT I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING ANY TYPE OF EXTENSION. I THINK IT'S TIME FOR THIS TO JUST BE DONE AND WE WILL NEED TO APPRAISE, SELL THE PROPERTY, GET SOMEONE IN BUYING AND PAYING TAXES AND BE DONE. THIS IS WAY TOO COMPLICATED.

>> COMMISSIONER? >> UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTRATION BECAUSE I HAVE THE FRUSTRATION ALSO WITH US DOING IT AND THEY ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE TIMEFRAME. HOWEVER, THE REASON WE BROUGHT THIS AND WE ARE DOING THIS IS BECAUSE WE DID NOT JUST WANT TO SELL THE PROPERTY AND HAVE VACANT LOTS JUST SITTING HERE IN THE AREAS WE WERE TRYING TO PUT HOUSES ON WAR AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR ANY TYPE OF CHANGE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IF WE OUT RIGHT SELL THE PROPERTY , ONCE WE SELL THE PROPERTY WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER ANY DEVELOPER DOING ANYTHING ON THE PROPERTY. IT COULD JUST SIT FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS, AT LEAST THIS PROPERTY WE HAVE WITH OUR PROPERTY SOME TYPE OF CONTROL

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BEFORE THE DEADLINE? >> YES WE KEPT IN TOUCH.

>> YOU MADE EXTENSION BEFORE THE DEADLINE BUT IT CAME TO US TONIGHT BECAUSE THE CITY AND LEGAL AND EVERYBODY DID WHAT THEY HAD TO DO SO IT WAS NOT LIKE HE WAITED FOR TWO OR THREE MONTHS AFTER THE DEADLINE TO ASK FOR THE EXTENSION, THIS IS JUST

WHEN IT CAME TO BE REVIEWED. >> CORRECT, WE HAD REGULAR COMMISSION COMMUNICATION WITHIN THE LAST SIX MONTHS SINCE THEY CONVEYED THE PROPERTY, REGULAR COMMUNICATION WITH ALL THE

DEVELOPERS. >> I DID WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THERE WAS NOT EXTENSION ASKED AFTER THE DEADLINE , HE

CONTACTED THE CITY BEFORE. >> LET ME BE CLEAR ON A COUPLE SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THIS?

>> YES HE DID SUBMIT THE SITE PLANS MARCH 25 SUBMITTED TO THE

CITY. >> OF 2025?

>> YES. >> HE WANTED THIS BID BACK IN

24? >> CONVEYED JUNE 28, 2024.

>> JUST NOW GETTING SITE PLANS. I WILL ASK THE APPLICANT WHAT CAUSED THE DELAY. COMMISSIONER GAINES BRINGS UP A POINT AND I'M SITTING ON THE FENCE BECAUSE I'M OVER FRUSTRATED WITH THIS. WHAT I'M NOT WILLING TO DO IS OUT RIGHT SELL THE PROPERTY. BECAUSE I AGREE WE WERE TRYING AND WE STILL ARE AND WILL STIMULATE GROWTH IN THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE SOME SAY SO WITH THAT PROPERTY THAT THE CITY OWNS. AND SO THIS IS BEYOND FRUSTRATING TO ME. I CANNOT GET MY HEAD AROUND IT BUT IT IS CLEAR TO ME NOW. AND MADAME ATTORNEY, I GUESS WE ARE WELL WITHIN, WE HAVE READ BURGERS IN PLACE UNDER THIS CONDITION WE HAVE DONE THOSE IN PLACE AND STANDING IN THE SITUATION?

>> MADAME MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, YES IF YOU RECALL QUITE A WHILE AGO WE CHANGED THE PROCESS. IT USED TO SIMPLY BE IN THE DEED THE REVISION LANGUAGE IN THE DEED. WE CHANGE THE PROCESS TO WHERE THERE IS AGREEMENT THAT GETS ENTERED WITH SPECIFIC TIME FRAMES THAT THE WINNING BIDDER ELECTS, RELATED TO APPLYING FOR THE BUILDING PERMITS, COMMENCING CONSTRUCTION AND OBTAINING THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IF MY MIND IS REMEMBERING CORRECTLY.

WE PUT IN THE TIME FRAMES BASED ON WHAT THEY INDICATE THEY NEED TIMEFRAME LIES SO NOW IT IS BOTH IN THE AGREEMENT WITH THE REVERSION AND IN THE DEED THAT HAS THE REVERSION.

>> THANK YOU. >> I WAS GOING TO COMMENT TWO THINGS. ONE, THIS IS UNDER THE NEW PROTOCOLS THAT THIS COMMISSION APPROVED. THE PURCHASER PROVIDES THEIR TIMELINE. WE DO NOT STIPULATE , THEY GIVE US THE TIMELINE THEY'RE REQUESTING WHEN THEY MAKE PROPOSAL TO THE CITY . IT SAID THAT, I FIND IT VERY DISTURBING THAT THIS IS THEIR TIMELINE THAT IS NOT BEEN MET, HOWEVER I DO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER GAINES AND COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, COMMISSIONER TAYLOR I AM DISAGREEING ON YOU IN THAT THIS PROGRAM WAS WRESTLED WITH. A FULL STEEL CAGE MATCH WRESTLING OR DEAL TO COME UP WITH A SYSTEMIC WAY TO ATTEMPT TO MAKE THIS WORK AND TO STIMULATE DEVELOPMENT OF PRIMARILY SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSING ON LOTS THAT THE CITY CONTROLLED TO ATTEMPT TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL HOUSING, BUT REJUVENATE OR TRY TO INSTILL A DEVELOPMENT THESIS IN THESE PARTICULAR AREAS OF THE CITY. SO I SHARE YOUR CONCERNS WITH THIS BECAUSE CLEARLY THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE FIRST ONES WE GRANTED UNDER THE NEW PROTOCOLS WE PUT INTO PLACE AND IT HAS NOT WORKED. SO WE ARE BACK TO WHERE WE WERE PRIOR TO PUTTING THE NEW PROTOCOLS IN PLACE. SO I AM VERY FRUSTRATED BECAUSE THERE WAS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME AND EFFORT AND DEBATE PUT INTO STRUCTURING THIS PROGRAM IN THIS FORMAT TO SAY OKAY WE WILL NOT SIT HERE AND

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>> WE ARE TORN ALWAYS BECAUSE WE WANT SOMETHING BUILT. WE DON'T WANT THE EMPTY LOTS , THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO

ACCOMPLISH. >> TRYING TO AVOID THIS SCENARIO. I DO KNOW THERE ARE SOME SUCCESSES COMING FORWARD AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE INFORMATION BE PROVIDED TO US SOON ON COMPLETED PROJECTS WHICH I THINK IS THE FIRST OF THOSE TO COME FORWARD AND IT'S GOING TO BE RELATIVELY SOON AS THE DEVELOPERS OF THOSE PROJECTS HAVE INFORMED ME. SO I AM ENCOURAGED BY THAT SUCCESS BUT QUITE DISAPPOINTED IN THE PROSPECT THAT THE PROGRAM WE PUT INTO PLACE COMING OUT OF THE GATE TO REVAMP THAT WHOLE SYSTEM IS NOW MEETING WITH THESE CHALLENGES IMMEDIATELY. IMMEDIATELY AS IN THE TIMELINE OF WHAT THEY ORIGINALLY SPECIFIED NOW LOOKING FOR MORE.

DATE DICTATED THE TIMELINE, NOT US. SO I AM NOT , I AM NOT HESITANT TO PULL THE CORD ON A RIVER BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE DEVELOPER HAS TO SAY ON THEIR OWN BEHALF.

>> I WAS GOING TO GO BACK TO THE STAFF BECAUSE , WHAT WAS THE RATIONALE, WHAT WAS THE REASON? HOW ARE WE HANDLING THIS PROJECT? IF WE ARE SIX MONTHS OUT, ARE WE NINE MONTHS OUT FROM A DEADLINE SAYING CAMINO I NEED TO SEE SOMETHING, SIX MONTHS OUT I NEED TO SEE SOMETHING. WHEN ARE WE STARTING TO SAY OKAY HERE'S THE PROBLEM, HERE IS A PROBLEM, WHAT IS OUR TIMELINE WHEN THERE IS A PROBLEM BECAUSE AS, YOU ARE NOT HERE DURING THAT CAGE MATCH WITH THIS PROJECT IT WAS A CAGE MATCH ABOUT THE SAME PROJECT. I THOUGHT COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON WAS GOING TO PULL SOME HAIR OUT OF HIS HEAD SITTING THERE TONIGHT. THAT' JUST WHAT IT WAS. I AM NOT HAPPY THAT I AM HERE BECAUSE YOU KNOW I DON'T UNDERSTAND. I NEED TO KNOW FROM OUR STAFF. WHEN ARE WE SEEING THE RED FLAG THAT WE NEED TO KNOW SOMETHING BECAUSE MAYBE WE NEED TO GO BACK AND PUT ANOTHER STEP IN THIS PROCESS TO SAY HERE WE ARE SIX MONTHS IN BEFORE THE DEADLINE AND WE NEED TO BRING IN THE DEVELOPER AND THE PERSON INTO METERS TO SAY WHAT'S GOING ON SO WE ARE NOT HERE TODAY SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT STAFF WISE , DO THAT I HAVE THAT IN PLACE, DO NOT, CAN WE PUT IT IN PLACE? BECAUSE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I SEE YOU COMING UP JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU. FOR A DEVELOPER TO COME UP AFTER THE DEADLINE , NOT GOING TO GET MUCH SYMPATHY FROM US.

JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU. BUT IF I WAS SIX MONTHS OUT AND YOU TELL ME WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THESE PROBLEMS WE'RE RUNNING TO YOU MIGHT GET ONE OF US TO SAY OKAY BECAUSE I DO HAVE SOME CONSTRUCTION PEOPLE HERE, I DO HAVE SOME ENGINEERS UP HERE SO I CAN SIT BACK AND LISTEN TO THEM AND SAY OKAY THERE MAKING SENSE SO THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING BACK TO THE STAFF LET'S PUT ANOTHER STEP IN HERE IF WE CAN SO THAT IF YOU THINK IT IS A RED FLAG BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AND BRING THEM BACK IN FRONT OF US SO WE CAN TAKE IT

FROM HERE. >> MISS GARCIA YOU WANT TO

SPEAK? >> FIRST TIMELINE FROM THE TIME WE CONVEY THE PROPERTY WAS ABOUT SIX MONTHS, USUALLY 90 DAYS PRIOR TO THE DEADLINE I TOUCH BASE EITHER EMAIL OR WE HAD A PHONE CONVERSATION AS WELL WHERE WE WOULD TOUCH BASE REGULARLY.

FOR THIS SITUATION IT IS A UNIQUE DESIGN SO HE HAS HAD SOME ISSUES WITH FINDING THE RIGHT CONTRACTOR THAT WOULD TAKE ON THE JOB. BUT YES WE HAVE OPEN COMMUNICATION REGULARLY 90 DAYS PRIOR TO THE DEADLINE AND CONSTANT COMMUNICATION AFTER .

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT, ALL I AM ASKING IS UNDERSTAND , I THINK WHERE HE WAS GOING STAFF HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME DEALING WITH DEADLINES THAT A DEVELOPER GAVE US AND 90 DAYS IS A CERTAIN

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SAYING. >> INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND GIVE

YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE. >> YES, THANK YOU. MY NAME IS NAME ] 12425 1242 5/2 SHORE AVENUE. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

I SHARE IN YOUR FRUSTRATIONS, AS WELL. ONE THING I HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BEFORE YOU IN PERSON, I HAVE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH MISS GARCIA AND I'M ORIGINALLY FROM FORT PIERCE. I LIVE IN LOS ANGELES RIGHT NOW SO I WORK FOR A DEVELOPER, MY BACKGROUND IS ARCHITECTURE , DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION. SO THIS IS SORT OF A PROJECT AND I HAD NO IDEA IT WAS SUCH A CONTROVERSIAL ONE FOR SUCH A SMALL LOT AND PROJECT, BUT THIS GOES BACK QUITE A LONG TIME. I BECAME AWARE OF THIS PROGRAM FROM THE CITY QUITE A FEW YEARS AGO AND

>> WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHY THE DEADLINE.

>> UNDERSTOOD. I FEEL YOUR FRUSTRATION, I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO HAVE EXTENSION BY THE CITY AS WELL EVEN FOR THIS PROCESS WHEN I FIRST GOT THE BID THE CITY WAS NOT ABLE TO MEET THEIR DEADLINE AND ASKED ME FOR A DEADLINE SO IT HAS GONE BACK AND FORTH A BIT. MY INTENTION IS I WANT TO DO SOMETHING GOOD. I DON'T WANT TO JUST THROW SOMETHING UP BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD DEFEAT THE PUROSE OF WHAT THIS PROGRAM IS TRYING TO DO. SO FOR ME AS A OWNER, DESIGNER AND DEVELOPER COMING OUT OF MY POCKET I HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT AND NOT JUST FOR MYSELF BUT I HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT FOR THE CITY. THIS IS A UNIQUE DESIGN.

IT IS CHALLENGING TO FIND THE PEOPLE TO DO THIS.

>> IS THAT THE REASON FOR THE EXTENSION?

>> THAT IS THE REASON. >> THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW.

>> YES IT IS, YES IT IS. THAT HAS NOT BEEN THE CHALLENGE. IT IS NOT A COOKIE-CUTTER THING. I WANT TO ADVANCE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS A BIT CHALLENGING AND SOME PEOPLE THINK I'M CRAZY FOR EVEN TRYING THIS, BUT I BELIEVE IF I CAN DO SOMETHING GOOD MORE THINGS COULD FOLLOW. THE IRONY IS WHY I WAS WAITING FOR THE PROJECT TO BE PUT OUT THE COUNTY HAD ANOTHER PROPERTY TWO DOORS DOWN THAT THEY DID SELL OUT RIGHT AND IN THE MEANTIME I DID PURCHASE THAT WITH THE SAME INTENTION. IF I WOULD'VE NEVER GOT THIS PROJECT I WOULD STILL BE DEVELOPING THAT ON MY OWN TERMS. I MIGHT NOT HAVE DONE IT IN A QUICK TIMELINE SO THIS WAS A GOOD KICK TO GET GOING BUT THIS WAS MY ORIGINAL FOCUS IT JUST TOOK LONGER TO GET THERE.

>> THANK YOU, OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER BRODERICK.

>> YOU INDICATE YOU ARE LOOKING TO SHORTEN CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE FROM 14 MONTHS, TO 12 FROM TIME SHOVELING THE GROUND WALKING

THROUGH OPEN HOUSE? >> IN ASKING FOR THIS EXTENSION I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW I COULD CALL BACK TIME TO MAKE IT MORE APPEALING I DON'T WANT TO KEEP ASKING FOR EXTENSIONS. 12 MONTHS IS A TIGHT STRETCH, BUT IF I CAN GET EVERYTHING IN LINE AND GET THE RIGHT PEOPLE 12 MONTHS SHOULD BE NO PROBLEM. I CANNOT CONTROL THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES, THE CONSULTANTS. SO PUTTING THOSE TIMELINES TOGETHER IT'S NOT A PERFECT SCIENCE IT IS MY BEST GUESS BUT I CAN'T CONTROL THINGS OUT OF MY

CONTROL. >> I UNDERSTAND CLEARLY YOU'RE UNABLE TO MEET THE JANUARY 9 YOU'RE UNABLE TO MEET THE JANUARY 9, 2025 DEADLINE SO YOUR QUEST 100 SUMMIT EXTENSION PUTTING US JUNE 28 APPROVAL FROM THE CITY IN YOUR CONDO PUTTING STARTING CONSTRUCTION IMMEDIATELY THEREAFTER?

>> CORRECT. I BELIEVE THE WAY THE AGREEMENT WORKS IS ONCE I GET THE PERMITS , WHEN I AM ABLE TO GET THE PERMITS AND START FROM THAT TIME POINT MY CLOCK TICKS FOR CONSTRUCTION. I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE CITY WILL TAKE TO APPROVE THE PLANS , THAT'S

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SINGLE-FAMILY HOME. >> I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE BURDENSOME TO TURN THE PERMIT AROUND. ! HAVE SEEN IT TAKES LITTLE TIME AND MORE TIME, PART OF WHAT IS FACTORED INTO THAT EXTENSION IS AND THAT'S WHY I AM HERE THIS WEEK. I'M STARTING TO GET IN PRICING AND CONTRACTORS LINED UP. AFTER WORK THROUGH PRECONSTRUCTION AS WELL AND TO BE HONEST I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO SHAKE OUT. MORE IMPORTANT IT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO GET THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO BUILD THE PROJECT LIKE SOMEBODY MENTIONED YOU DON'T LIKE CHANGE ORDERS I DON'T LIKE CHANGE ORDERS I DON'T WANT TO GET IN THE PROCESS AND BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOUR WITH I HAD TO FIRE A CONTRACTOR, I DON'T WANT

TO EXTEND. >> WE HAVE HEARD THOSE STORIES.

SINCE YOU'RE TRIMMING 60 DAYS OFF SO IT IS 110 DAYS EXTENSION

OVERALL. REALISTICALLY. >> CORRECT. I COULD HAVE TURNED SOMETHING INTO THE CITY BEFORE IT WOULD'VE BEEN HALF-BAKED. I HAVE HAD PLANS FOR MONTHS. IT IS GETTING DOWN WITH THE ENGINEERING TO SUBMIT IS NOT THE SITE PLAN I NEEDED THE ENGINEERING AND MECHANICAL GETTING ALL THOSE GUYS TOGETHER AND PERFORMING SO THAT HAS ALL BEEN IN.

>> UNDERSTAND THE ASK AND WHAT YOU'RE OFFERING ET CETERA THE END GOAL WAS TO GET HOUSES BUILT. HAVE A SENSE THAT'S WHAT HIS INTENTION IS HERE. UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER GAINES AND COMMISSIONER TAYLOR'S SERIOUS RESERVATIONS, I SHARE YOUR RESERVATIONS BUT WE HAVE TO GET SOME OF THIS OUT OF THE GROUND SO I'M NOT AVERSE TO GRANTING THE EXTENSION. IT ONLY RUNS THROUGH JUNE, IF IT IS NOT BEEN SATISFIED COME BACK AND SAY

IT DID NOT HAPPEN. CORRECT? >> THE HE MAY HAVE SUBMITTED HIS APPLICATION FOR BUILDING PERMIT SO IF YOU APPROVE TODAY HE WOULD'VE SATISFIED. SO WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO MAKE IT TO THE JUNE TIMELINE. HAS ALREADY SATISFIED IF YOU APPROVE THE EXTENSION.

>> IS THERE A TIME WHEN THE PERMIT NEEDS TO BE ISSUED AT THE

ACQUISITION? >> AFTER HE SUBMITS?

>> AFTER ACQUISITION OF THE LOT , IS THERE A TIMELINE FOR SUBMISSION AND COMMENCEMENT AND CONSTRUCTION?

>> FOR SUBMISSION HAD GIVEN 195 DAYS.

>> THAT WAS JANUARY 9, THE DAY IT EXPIRED. I'M GOOD, I KNOW THIS IS A VERY TOUGH PILL TO SWALLOW ESPECIALLY WITH A BRAND-NEW PROGRAM WE JUST PUT INTO PLACE. I DON'T THINK THERE'S A ZILLION OPTIONS, WE CAN TAKE THE PROPERTY BACK AND START THE PROCESS OVER AGAIN AND I'M NOT ADVOCATING THAT I WOULD GRANT WE GRANT THE EXTENSION 110 DAYS ONLY A COUPLE MONTHS AWAY.

SO I WANT TO KNOW IF HE WAS SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING THIS

EXECUTED ON. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT REAL QUICK. HE HAS ALREADY SUBMITTED PLANS TO THE BUILDING FOR PERMITTING. SO HE IS WAITING ON OUR BUILDING TO ISSUE THE PERMIT TO START CONSTRUCTION AND WE ARE SAYING IF EVERYTHING GOES THAT WOULD BE JUNE.

>> ACCORDING TO THE SALE AGREEMENT IF YOU APPROVE TODAY HE WOULD HAVE MET ITEM A ON THE SALE AGREEMENT.

>> TALKING LIKE MAY OR JUNE? >> YES, QUICK.

>> SORT OF RETROACTIVELY. >> I WAS WORRIED WE WOULD NOT MAKE THE DEADLINE SO I ASKED BUT IN THE MEANTIME I WENT AHEAD AND

SUBMITTED. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> I JUST HAVE A COMMENT. >> I WILL TAKE MY BEATING NOW GO

AHEAD. >> I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THE TIMELINE, I GOT THE BUILDING PERMIT STUFF IN. THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT IS ANTICIPATED IN 12 MONTHS. 12 MONTHS AFTER

ISSUANCE OF THE PERMIT. >> SHOVELS IN THE GROUND, 12

MONTHS. >> OKAY THANK YOU I WANTED TO BE

CLEAR. >> TRY TO MANAGE THIS FROM CALIFORNIA, I HAVE DONE LONG-DISTANCE PROJECT

MANAGEMENT. >> IT IS NOT PRETTY BUT I WANT

TO SEE IT DONE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COMMISSIONER TAYLOR YOU HAVE A COMMENT?

>> I DON'T WANT TO REOPEN AND DINGED THE BELL ON ROUND TWO OF

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TRYING TO FORCE SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE HAPPENING NATURALLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION , SPEAKING FOR JAMES TAYLOR OVER HERE. NOT BASHING ANY OF YOU FOR PUTTING THIS IN PLACE I THINK IT WAS A GOOD IDEA, A VALIANT EFFORT, BUT I THINK WE HAVE BIGGER THINGS WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON. BIGGER THINGS WE COULD BE USING STAFF TIME SO I WILL NOT BE APPROVING ANY EXTENSIONS.

>> ONE FOLLOW-UP COMMENT ON THAT.

>> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR I UNDERSTAND THAT SIDE OF THE ARGUMENT IN TOTALITY I REALLY DO AND I'M NOT A BIG PROPONENT OF GOVERNMENT BEING INVOLVED IN PROJECTS SUCH AS THIS. THAT'S UP TO PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND I IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO UNDERTAKE AT. HOWEVER, THE REASON I WENT ALONG WITH THE PROJECT SO YOU CAN MOLD THIS AROUND AT THE:00 IN THE MORNING, I THOUGHT THE PROJECT , I ADVOCATED FOR THIS PROJECT AND MADE RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO HOW IT SHOULD BE MODIFIED AND TIGHTENED UP ET CETERA. WITH A NUMBER OF THESE PARCELS WE HAVE IN THE NORTHWEST SECTION OF THE CITY WHICH IS PRIMARILY WHERE THE STOCK OF LOTS IS LOCATED IS PEOPLE WOULD COME IN AND LAND BANK THIS STUFF, OUTSIDE PEOPLE NOT AVERSE TO OUTSIDE PEOPLE, BUT PEOPLE BUYING THESE THINGS IN DROVES TO LAND BANK INSTEAD OF GETTING INTO THE DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS ARE LOOKING TO BUY THEM, SIT ON THEM AND FLIP THEM HOPEFULLY MAKE A PROFIT AND SOMEBODY ELSE WILL LAND BANK. THAT WAS MY PRIMARY CONCERN BECAUSE I SAW THAT ACTIVITY TAKING PLACE AS SOON AS THE PROJECT WITH THESE PROTOCOLS DISCUSSED IN CONJUNCTION TO WHAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WAS DOING RELATIVE TO RATIONALIZING UNDERSIZED LOTS FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WHICH THE HISTORY OF THAT TOPIC IS NIGHTMARISH. SUFFICE TO SAY WHEN PLANNING WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT, YOU SHOULD'VE SEEN THE LISTINGS GETTING SNAPPED UP, THE PRICES WERE IMMEDIATELY DRIVEN UP TO A NEW MARKET LEVEL AND SUBSEQUENTLY AGAIN THERE BEING LAND BANK. THAT WAS MY CONCERN.

WE SEE IT HAPPENING PRIVATE SECTOR, MAYBE IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR WE CAN HAVE MORE INFLUENCE TO MAKE SURE THE HOUSING STOCK WE ARE TRYING TO GENERATE ACTUALLY GETS DEVELOPED AND I THINK THERE WAS THE MOTIVATION OF THE COMMISSION BUT THOSE ARE MY UNDERLYING REASONS AND CONCERNS. I SEE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ARGUMENT. IT HAS A LOT OF MERIT TO IT.

>> I HAVE A COMMENT. I AM TORN WITH THIS. BUT I'M NOT THAT TORN AND HERE IS THE REASON. WE ALSO ARE HAVING THE ABATEMENT SITUATIONS. WE RELAXED IMPACT FEES IN THE CITY, THE URBAN CORE TO MATCH UP WITH VACANT LOTS TO SPUR DEVELOPMENT. AS MUCH AS I DON'T LIKE THIS AND DO NOT LIKE THE SITUATION WE ARE IN I AM STILL WILLING TO DO AND GIVE IT MORE TEETH EVEN TO THE POINT THAT IF I UNDERSTAND RIGHT , IF WE DON'T HAVE THIS THING BUILT IT'S GOING TO REVERT. AND SO WHAT I DO KNOW IS THE VACANT LAND IN THE SITUATION WE ARE FORCED AND FACED WITH UP HERE

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WE NEED TO HEAR FROM STAFF ON WHERE THE NUMBERS ARE WITH THIS AND HOW MANY MORE POTENTIAL. I AM WITH COMMISSIONER GAINES, SOMETHING SHOULD HAVE TRIGGERED US BESIDES MISSING THE DEADLINE AND WE HAVE FP RA, WHICH SET OF THIS IS FP RA AND WHICH IS CITY OF FORT PIERCE BECAUSE THEY BOTH PLAY A ROLE IN THIS. WE BOTH HAVE THE MEETINGS WE COULD'VE BROUGHT THIS UP IN. SO WE HAVE TO GET WITH STAFF THAT WE NEED A LITTLE MORE OF AN UPDATE AND WE HAD A BITTER, HE BID , HE OWNS THE PROPERTY NOW. HE IS LOOKING TO PUT THIS STRUCTURE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS A CHALLENGE, I LOOKED AT THE STREET VIEW OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IT IS A CHALLENGE AND IT'S GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE BUT IT IS HIS MONEY AND THE ASSESSED VALUE WILL HELP TO BOLSTER THE COFFERS WE NEED IN THIS CITY TO MAKE SURE WE PROVIDE SERVICES FOR CITIZENS AND IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABSOLUTELY. I'M JUST SAYING, I AM SITTING HERE AND I REALLY DON'T WANT TO GRANT YOU THIS I WILL TELL YOU THAT UP FRONT. I THINK IT IS SENDING THE WRONG SIGNAL TO THE REST OF THIS BUT SOMETHING IS SAYING YOU CANNOT GIVE UP QUITE THAT EASY. BUT I AM PUBLICLY STATING , I AM

FRUSTRATED. I AM DISAPPOINTED. >> LET'S MAKE A MOTION.

>> LET'S JUST MOVE ON BEFORE I SAY SOMETHING I DON'T NEED TO

SAY. >> MOTION?

>> HAVING SAID EVERYTHING I SAID I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE TIME EXTENSION REQUESTED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER.

>> IS THERE A SECOND? >> I WILL SECOND.

>> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >> WHO HAD THE SECOND?

>> I WANT TO MAKE A SMALL CLARIFICATION. WITH THE MOTION.

SORRY, SO THE RESOLUTION IS WRITTEN IN A WAY YOU CAN GRANT OR DENY A REQUEST SO JUST TO CLARIFY IT IS TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 25-R 23 GRANTING THE REQUEST.

>> THAT'S WHAT I SAID. >> SECOND.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE CLARIFICATION, CALL THE ROLL

PLEASE. >>

[b. Resolution 25-R24 Granting or Denying a Time Extension for the Sale Agreement of 1204 Avenue E.]

>> NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION 25-R 24 RESOLUTION CITY OF FORT PIERCE AUTHORIZING OR DENYING AMENDMENT TO THE SURPLUS PROPERTY SALE AGREEMENT AT 1204 AVENUE EAST REQUEST FOR EXTENSION OF TIME TO INCLUDE ANY NECESSARY LITIGATIN PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> MISS GARCIA? >> SECOND REQUEST FOR THIS EVENING 1204 AVENUE E AND I WILL GO THROUGH THE SLIDES HERE. 1204 AVENUE E SITS HERE BETWEEN , WE SOLD TO THE DEVELOPER AND HE OWNED THE PARCEL EAST OF THE PROPERTY , HIS PLANS WERE TO COMBINE THE LOTS TO BUILD HIS QUAD PLEX SO YOU WILL HAVE A QUAD PLEX BUILT ON EACH ONE OF THE LOTS. AGAIN SAME TIMELINE , FEBRUARY 5 WE AWARDED THE RFP APRIL 1 , WE SOLD THE PROPERTY OR ENTERED INTO THE SALE AGREEMENT FOR $25,000 AND WE CONVEYED PROPERTY JUNE 28, 2024. HIS PERMIT APPLICATION DEADLINE WAS DECEMBER 28, 2024. AGAIN WE WERE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH HIM, THE DELAY WITH INVESTMENTS WAS THE COMBINATION

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>> SO I INQUIRED ABOUT THIS AT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OFFICE BECAUSE THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE EXTENSION REQUEST. WHAT HAPPENS IS IF YOU ASK FOR A CHANGE IN THE STATUS OF A PROPERTY AFTER THE TRIM NOTICE GOES OUT, THEY CANNOT GRANT THAT INTO THE PROPERTY TAXES ARE PAID ON THE PROPERTY. SO THIS PERSON REQUESTED IN SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER 25 I THINK. AND THE TAXES WERE PAID IN NOVEMBER AND THEN SO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER NEEDS TO KNOW FROM THAT , THAT THE REQUEST IS IN THEIR OFFICES.

SO, I THINK THAT IS ALWAYS KIND OF A CHALLENGE FOR THE PROPERTY APPRAISER AS WELL AS THE PERSON ASKING FOR THE COMBINATION.

TECHNICALLY, THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE ON NOVEMBER WHATEVER IT WAS WHEN THE TAXES WERE PAID. SO THE DELAY WAS IN THE PROPERTY APPRAISER BUT THAT IS STATUTORY BECAUSE I CANNOT CHANGE STATUS OF A PIECE OF PROPERTY UNTIL THE TAX IS PAID.

>> CORRECT. >> THAT'S TWO MONTHS.

>> ASKING QUESTIONS OF STAFF. BUILDING PERMITS HAVE BEEN

SUBMITTED TO BILLING DEPARTMENT? >> NO, HE HAS UPDATED PLANS TO PRESENT TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE BUT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN PRESENTED TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

>> WE HAVE TO GET PRECLEARANCE HISTORICAL FIRST. GO BACK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO, IS THIS? LINKIN PARK SO THAT MEANS THE COURT ON THE CORNER. OKAY. NEXT TO THE CHURCH SO THIS STRUCTURE GOES NEXT TO THAT CHURCH ON AVENUE E. OKAY I'VE GOT MY BEARINGS AND I KNOW WHERE I AM AT ON THE EAST SIDE OKAY.

>> PRESERVATION AND PLANNING. >> SO THE PLANS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED AND THEY'RE GOING TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION FIRST.

>> OKAY. >> ANY DESIRE TO HEAR FROM ?

>> I AM GOOD. >> GOOD, OKAY.

>> ANY DISCUSSION? DO YOU WANT TO WAIT? IF THERE ANY PROMOTION WE CAN WAIT UNTIL COMMISSIONER TAYLOR COMES BACK AND HAVE A

MOTION. >> HE HAS A TWO-MONTH DELAY WITH PROPERTY APPRAISER WITH INHERENT DELAY GETTING IN FRONT OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD , ANOTHER 60 DAYS TO GET ON THE AGENDA SO ONLY FOUR MONTHS IN THEORY.

>> HOLIDAY TIME IF YOU DO A LITTLE BIT OF DOGGING.

>> WILLING TO BET WHEN HE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY HE WAS UNAWARE IT WAS IN A HISTORICALLY PROTECTED AREA SO THAT GETS THROWN INTO THE MIX. OKAY GREAT WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO DO ABOUT THAT?

>> OKAY IS THERE MOTION? >> BEFORE EMOTION THIS IS WRITTEN AS THE SAME , THE LAST RESOLUTION APPROVING AND GRANTING OR DENYING REQUEST. MOTION TO APPROVE AND GRANT OR

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DENY. >> MADAM THERE MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 25-R 24 GRANTING APPROVAL OF TIME EXTENSION

REQUEST. >> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> I WILL SECOND. >> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>>

[c. Resolution 25-R27 appointing members to the Affordable Housing Advisory Committee (AHAC).]

>> SO. FROM SOME OF THE MEMBERS THIS IS A BOARD OF NINE INDIVIDUALS. WE HAVE TO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM AT LEAST SIX DIFFERENT CATEGORIES. THE WAY WE HAVE BROKEN DOWN THE BALLOT IS IN , INTO THE DIFFERENT , AT LEAST SOME OF THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES , YOU WILL SEE INDIVIDUAL NAMES IN SEVERAL OF THE CATEGORIES BECAUSE THEY REPRESENT DIFFERENT , SEVERAL DIFFERENT CATEGORIES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. IF THEY ARE A CURRENT MEMBER, YOU'LL SEE THEM IN THE AREA WHERE THERE SERVING. FOR EXAMPLE MR. TREVOR BANKS IS CURRENTLY SERVING AS ADVOCATE FOR A LOW INCOME PERSON SO HE IS LISTED IN THE CATEGORY AND NEXT TO HIS NAME SAYS CURRENT. BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY ARE LISTED AND THERE LISTED IN SEVERAL AREAS, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE PROBABLY MOST BENEFICIAL IF IT IS OKAY WITH YOU , IF WE DO A VOICE VOTE FOR EACH OF THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES SO THAT WAY AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, YOU CAN SIMPLY CROSS OFF ANY OF THE FOLKS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SELECTED. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE THE EASIEST WAY OR WE COULD BE HERE ALL NIGHT AND I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE ENOUGH BALLOTS TO

GO THROUGH WITH THEM ALL. >> NOT ONLY DO WE NOT WANT TO BE HERE ALL NIGHT, BUT THE CHAMBERS DO NOT.

>> GO THROUGH THEM AND I CAN CALL OUT NAMES, DO THEM IN A MEDICAL ORDER LIKE WE DO THE ROLL AND IF THAT'S OKAY I WILL

DO IT. ONE AT A TIME. >> OKAY LET'S DO THAT.

>> FIRST IS THE ADVOCATE FOR LOW INCOME PERSONS. COMMISSIONER BRODERICK OF THOSE LISTED WHO WOULD YOU LIKE TO CHOOSE?

>>

>> HAVE A QUESTION. WE JUST HAD THIS WHOLE ACTIVE DISCUSSION EARLY ON. I AM GOOD AT PICKING NAMES TO SIT ON THE BOARD WITH

ME. I AM ON THIS BOARD? >> YES OR. THE CITY STATUTORILY REQUIRED TO APPOINT A COMMISSIONER TO THE BOARD.

>> CORRECT. >> I GOT THAT PART, I UNDERSTAND , BUT I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED IF I START SELECTING PEOPLE ON THE BOARD THAT I'M GOING TO BE ON TO MAKE DECISIONS TO COME BACK IN FRONT OF US SO I'M ASKING. I DON'T MIND PICKING NAMES BUT I AM PUTTING IT ON THE RECORD , I KNOW IT IS STATUTORY , WE HAVE TO HAVE A COMMISSION ON THERE BUT TO HAVE A RIGHT TO PICK WHO

IS ON THE BOARD? >> I AM AWARE OF NO CONFLICT AS

WE SIT HERE. >> GETTING ANY?

>> I CANNOT NOT VOTE TOO. >> BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD

PLACE. >> OKAY WITH MY HESITATION AND WHAT I PUT ON THE RECORD AND WHAT I PUT ON THE RECORD,, SINCE I WILL FOLLOW WITH

>>

>> TREVOR BANKS. >> MAYOR HUDSON.

>> TREVOR BANKS. >> AS WE MOVE FORWARD YOU CAN CROSS HIM OFF ON THE BALLOT. THE NEXT CATEGORY WILL BE REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONAL SO WE WILL CROSS HIM OFF. COMMISSIONER

BRODERICK? >> MISS JONES PLEASE.

>> COMMISSIONER ? >> MISS JONES.

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>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >>

>> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. >> MISS JONES.

>> MAYOR HUDSON. >> JONES.

>> MISS JONES WILL KEEP THAT SEAT. OKAY UNDER ESSENTIAL SERVICES PERSONNEL . OKAY. COMMISSIONER BRODERICK.

>>

>> AARON O'BRYANT. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

>> BRYANT. >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR

>> O'BRIEN. >> MAYOR HUDSON.

>> O'BRIEN. >> UNDER NOT-FOR-PROFIT

PROVIDER. >> ONLY ONE.

>> DOWN TO MISS CARY AND BROWN. IF EVERYBODY IS GOOD WITH HER.

>> YES SHE IS IT. >> OKAY, UNDER RESIDENTIAL HOME BUILDER, BANKING OR MORTGAGE AND FOR PROFIT PROVIDER. WE COMBINE THOSE TOGETHER JUST HOW IT ALL WORKED OUT. SO, COMMISSIONER

BRODERICK. >> THOMPSON.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES >> JENNIFER.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES >> THOMPSON.

>> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR >> JENNIFER BACARDI

>> BACARDI >> THANK YOU. AND, UNDER CITY

RESIDENCE. >> LET'S SEE. SO I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE MISS O'BRIEN SELECTED. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE EVERYBODY. WE HAVE MISS JONES SELECTED ALREADY.

>> UNDER CITY RESIDENT LESLIE OLSON IS THE CURRENT, BUT SHE

LIVES OUT OF THE CITY NOW? >> THAT'S RIGHT SO WE CAN

REMOVE HER. >> SHE IS ON THE AT-LARGE LIST.

>> SHE IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR CITY RESIDENT.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> LET'S SEE. I THINK THAT

COVERS EVERYBODY. >> OKAY SO WE HAVE REMOVED MISS JONES, MS. O'BRIEN AND MISS OLSON FROM CITY RESIDENT CATEGORY. OKAY COMMISSIONER BRODERICK.

>> ANDREA DAVIS. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES

>> ANDREA DAVIS >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON

>> DAVIS >> MISSION ARE TAYLOR

>> DAVIS. >> COMMISSIONER -- MAYOR HUDSON?

>> I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO SELECT TWO POSITIONS. THE ORDER IN WHICH YOU CHOOSE THEM MAKES A DIFFERENCE BECAUSE IT WILL BE A POINT VALUE, TWO POINTS ON THE FIRST ONE AND ONE, FOR THE SECOND ONE YOU'RE GOING TO PUT ME AT THE TEST BUT WE WILL START OFF BY ELIMINATING THE ONES WE HAVE SELECTED SO WE WILL ELIMINATE MR. BANKS. LOOKING TO ELIMINATE DAVIS.

>> AND CARRIE AND BROWN. >> YES THAT'S RIGHT.

>> MISS BROWN, MS. JONES. MISS O'BRIEN. AND MISS BACARDI , I BELIEVE. YES, JENNIFER BACARDI . I THINK THAT IS EVERYBODY .

OKAY. GIVE ME YOUR FIRST TO GET TWO POINTS, SECOND WILL GET ONE

POINT. >> LESLIE OLSON STAYS ON THIS

ONE? >> LESLIE OLSON STAYS ON THIS ONE, YES. COMMISSIONER BRODERICK?

>> LESLIE OLSON AND PHIL THOMPSON.

>> LESLIE OLSON TWO POINTS, THOMPSON ONE POINT.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES. >> LESLIE OLSON AND ANDREA HARE.

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>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> OLSON AND HAIR.

>> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. >> OLSON AND THOMPSON.

>> MAYOR HUDSON. >> OLSON AND HAIR.

>> OKAY SO THAT WILL BE MISS OLSON . AND MISS HAIR. OKAY SO THE NEW MEMBERS OF YOUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE ARE GOING TO BE MR. BANKS , MISS JONES , MISS

O'BRIEN. MISS BACARDI. >> MISS BROWN , THANK YOU. MISS DAVIS. MISS HAIR AND MISS OLSON.

>> DO YOU NEED A MOTION? >> I WILL NEED A MOTION.

>> SOMEBODY WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION.

>> MADAM MAYOR KNOW THERE WAS MENTION OF STAGGERING TERMS ON THE BOARD MEMBERS? IS THAT PART OF THIS?

>> THAT WILL BE IN THE RESOLUTION, THE LAST THREE CATEGORIES ARE GOING TO BE A LESS TERM THAN THE FIRST FOUR IS

HOW WE WILL DO IT. >> TERMS WILL BE STAGGERED.

>> I THINK FOUR AND THREE. IT IS SPELLED OUT IN THE RESOLUTION. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THEY ARE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

>> SOMEBODY WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION?

>> MADAM MAYOR I MOVED TO PROVE THE SLATE OF CANDIDATES THAT

WERE VOTED . >> SECOND?

>> SECOND, CALL THE ROLL. >>

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS, THAT WAS NOT AS BAD AS EXPECTED.

>> YES, YES. IT IS STATUTORY. >> WORKING VERY HARD ON THIS.

[d. Resolution 25-R28 appointing Renella Mitchell to the Board of Adjustment as Mayor Hudson's appointee. ]

>>

[e. Resolution 25-R29 appointing Ryan Collins to the City of Fort Pierce Planning Board as Commissioner Taylor's appointee. ]

>> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND.

>> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >>

[f. Resolution 25-R30 appointing Mary Durkin to the City of Fort Pierce Parks Advisory Committee as Mayor Hudson's appointee. ]

>> NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION 25-R 30 RESOLUTION OF CITY COMMISSION CITY OF FORT PIERCE CERTIFYING APPOINTMENT OF MEMBERS TO THE PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE , THIS IS RESOLUTION APPOINTING MARY DURKIN TO THE PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE AS MAYOR HUDSON'S APPOINTEE.

>> IS THERE A MOTION? >> MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION AND

SECOND CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >>

[g. Resolution 25-R31 approving or denying the Third Amendment to the Amended and Restated Agreement for Development of King's Landing and First Quarter Update]

>> NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION 25- R 31 RESOLUTION CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE REGARDING REQUEST FOR THIRD AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDED AND RESTATED AGREEMENT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF KINGS LANDING AND THE SALE OF PROPERTY FROM AUTOBAHN DEVELOPMENT TO HOLDING GROUP PROVIDING FOR THE SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> MISS HEDGES THIS IS YOUR ITEM?

>> YES IT IS. MADAM ERRANT COMMISSIONERS THIS RESOLUTION IS STRUCTURED AS WE SAW THE PRIOR TO SALE AGREEMENTS FROM THIS EVENING IN THAT THE RESOLUTION IS WRITTEN TO WHERE WHEN YOU

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WHAT THAT UPON HAS AGREED TO AS THEY SHOULD NOT CONTEST IMMEDIATE EXERCISE OF REVERSION WILL NOT CONTEST LEGAL FILINGS BY THE CITY TO EXERCISE REVERSION RIGHTS EXCEPT TO ASSERT UNREASONABLE ACTION BY THE CITY RESULTING IN FAILURE TO CLOSE ON THE PURCHASE AND SALE OF LAND BY THE OUTSIDE CLOSING DATE. SO THAT NO LONGER ALLOWS , IF THIS IS BREACHED FOR FAILURE TO CLOSE ON THE PROPERTY THERE IS NO LONGER A 30 DAY CURE PERIOD THAT APPLIES, WE CAN EXERCISE THOSE RIGHTS THROUGH NECESSARY COURT PROCEEDINGS. CURRENT DEFAULTS AND BREACHES THE CITY AGREES THAT WHILE THERE IS CURRENTLY DEFAULT MEANING UNDER SECOND AMENDMENT THERE WERE CERTAIN TIME FRAMES THAT HAD TO BE MET RELATED TO THE CLOSING OF THE 20 VENTURE DEAL BETWEEN AUTOBAHN AND WE AGREE EVEN THOUGH THE BREACH DOES EXIST WE ARE NOT GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT IN LIEU OF THIS THIRD AMENDMENT SOME LEGALESE NUMBER 11 AND 12 UPDATING AND PROVIDING PROPER ADDRESS FOR NOTICE. 13 LEAVES THOSE TERMS WITHIN THE SECOND AMENDMENT THAT WE WANT TO REMAIN IN PLACE MEANING MONTHLY WRITTEN UPDATES, QUARTERLY UPDATE TO THE CITY COMMISSION, THE WAIVERS THAT OCCURRED RELATED TO THE CONCRETE CLAIMS, THOSE REMAIN IN EFFECT. AND THEN AGAIN MORE ABOUT ELECTRONIC SIGNATURES AND COUNTERPARTS. SO THAT IS WHAT IS COVERED IN THE THIRD AMENDMENT , BEHIND IT YOU WILL FIND THE EXHIBITS, EXHIBIT A IS THE SAME DEVELOPMENT TIMELINE YOU HAVE IN AMENDMENT TWO, THE DATES HAVE STRICTLY AND SPECIFICALLY REMAINED THE SAME. THAT IS QUITE HONESTLY THE SAME EXHIBIT I ATTACHED TO NUMBER TWO. I PULLED IT OUT AND MADE IT PART OF NUMBER THREE. EXHIBIT B'S FIRST AMENDMENT TO PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT WHICH CHANGED A TRIGGER DATE WITHIN PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT AND BEHIND THE IS THE FULL PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT BETWEEN AUTOBAHN AND LIVE OAK HOLDINGS GROUP SO THAT IS THE THIRD AMENDMENT. ON THE AGENDA IS FOR THIS TO SERVE AS THE QUARTERLY UPDATE THAT AUTOBAHN IS REQUIRED TO GIVE TO CITY COMMISSION. WE FIGURED ALL OF THOSE THINGS WOULD LIKELY COINCIDE WITH A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE SPECIFICALLY AS TO THE THIRD AMENDMENT REPRESENTATIVES FROM AUTOBAHN AND LIVE OAK ARE HERE IN CHAMBERS TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE OF THEM AND TO PROVIDE THE QUARTERLY UPDATE THEY ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE.

>> QUESTIONS TIOF MISS HEDGES. >> WE WANT TO HEAR THE QUARTERLY REPORT? WITH THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM AUTOBAHN AND/OR LIVE OAK LIKE TO APPROACH ? WE HAVE MET BEFORE AND THANK YOU FOR STAYING HERE THROUGH ALL OTHER AGENDA ITEMS APPRECIATE IT.

>> ABSOLUTELY, THANK YOU. JONES FOSTER LAW FIRM. ON BEHALF OF AUTOBAHN , MR. MANAGER , NICE TO MEET YOU AND WELCOME TO FORT PIERCE. MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALL THE DETAILS MISS HEDGES WENT THROUGH AND TO COMPLEMENT HER AND HER TEAM ON THE THOROUGH WORK WE HAVE GONE THROUGH IN THE LAST 10 DAYS TO WORK THROUGH THE MANY ISSUES IN THE PROPOSED THIRD AMENDMENT. WANT TO COMPLEMENT FREEMAN AND OTHERS OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WHO ARE WORKING SO DILIGENTLY WITH MR. WARE, THE RAPPORT ASPECT WILL BE HANDLED BY MR. WARE, THE PRINCIPAL AS YOU KNOW OF LIVE OAK HOLDINGS. I AM PREPARED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT MAY ARISE AS TO AUTOBAHN WOULD BE THE SELLER IN CONNECTION WITH THIS TRANSACTION. BUT THANKS FOR ALL THE WORK THE CITY HAS DONE , THIS WILL BE A MAJOR SUCCESS FOR FORT PIERCE. AND MR. WARE CAN RAPPORT ON MAINSAIL, THE OPERATOR OF THE FRANCHISE , THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> GOOD EVENING. BILL WHERE FROM LIVE OAK. LET ME REWRITE WHAT SCOTT SAID REGARDING SARAH. SHE HAS BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH AND IT HAS BEEN CHALLENGING AT TIMES, BUT WE ARE THERE. WE BELIEVE WE ARE THERE AND WE

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MARRIOTT FRANCHISE AGREEMENT IS IN PROCESS, I SPOKE WITH JOE WHO IS SICK BUT JOE CONFIRMED MARRIOTT IS DOING THEIR THING PROCESSING THE APPLICATION. AND ADMITTEDLY I'M NOT SURE I KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. BUT IT IS IN PROCESS. TOOK THE NEW TERM SHEET OF INTEREST, A NEW TERM SHEET WAS REFRESHED. I USE THE WORD REFRESHED. ONE WAS SIGNED BEFORE A PERIOD OF TIME WENT BY, WE SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION. THEY FELT IT WAS TIME TO UPDATE AND REFRESH THE TERM SHEET SO BOTH MARRIOTT AND MAINSAIL HAVE ASSIGNED THE NEW TERM SHEET BRINGING IT FORWARD, IF YOU WILL. I WILL GET INTO THIS A LITTLE BIT LATER. AMONG THE ITEMS NECESSARY FOR THE APPLICATION IS A SIDE PLAN. AS YOU KNOW WE ARE IN THE THROES OF UPDATING THE MASTER SITE PLAN FOR THE PROJECT TO WHICH THE HOTEL IS PAID PARCEL AND PHASE 1 PARCEL, NUMBER ONE. SO WE HAVE JUST SUBMITTED OUR UPDATED RENDITION TODAY TO KEVIN AND HIS GROUP AND I WILL GET INTO THAT IN A MINUTE. LIKEWISE THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO MARRIOTT FOR THEIR REVIEW AS PART OF THE APPROVAL PROCESS. I HAVE HAD A LUNCH MEETING WITH PETE AND HIS TEAM SIMPLY TO REFRESH THE INCENTIVE PROGRAM THAT WAS ISSUED BY LETTER TO THE EDC OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY. HAD A GOOD MEETING, EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE.

NUMBERS CHANGED SIMPLY BECAUSE THE NUMBERS THEY WERE USING ARE NOT CURRENT NUMBERS SO THE INCENTIVE PROGRAMS ARE STILL THERE IT'S JUST A FUNCTION OF APPLYING FORMULAS TO THOSE NUMBERS. WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME OTHER INCENTIVES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE OUT THERE. WE HAVE ASKED THEM TO LOOK AT CERTAIN THINGS AND SO FORTH. AND THEIR DOING THAT AND LIKEWISE THEY HAVE BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE HERE. I HAVE EXCHANGED COMMUNICATION WITH DR.

TIM MOORE WITH THE INDIAN RIVER STATE COLLEGE. WE ARE TRYING TO CONSOLIDATE. HE HAS AN INTEREST IN US, WE HAVE A INTEREST IN THEM. THEY HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST. WE ALIGN THEM IN THE PSA GIVING THEM OPPORTUNITY HAVE ONE OF OUR RESTAURANT SPACES FOR THE CULINARY INSTITUTE STUDENTS AND SO FORTH. I COMMEND DALE FOR THAT ORIGINAL CONNECTION AND INTEREST AND SO, HE CONTINUES TO HAVE AN INTEREST. AS WE BEGIN TO EVOLVE THIS PROJECT, I THINK THE INTEREST IN OUR PRODUCT MAY BECOME INCREASINGLY GREATER. THE SITE PLAN, SUBMITTED THAT EARLY THIS MORNING , I RECEIVED IT SATURDAY. IT IS A COLLABORATION EFFORT OF A COUPLE MEETINGS WE HAVE HAD WITH THE CITY AND IN THESE MEETINGS THERE IS A MINIMUM OF SIX AS MANY AS 12, 15 PEOPLE SO I WILL NOT RATTLE OFF NAMES BECAUSE I WON'T BE ABLE TO REMEMBER THEM. BUT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT EVERY STEP WE ARE TAKING ON THE CREATION OF THIS SITE PLAN INCLUDES THE COLLABORATION AND INPUT FROM EVERY DEPARTMENT WITHIN THE CITY AND I THINK , CALVE MAY ATTEST TO THIS LATER ON. IF ASKED, BUT IT WAS A GREAT MEETING. I THINK THE PLAN THAT WE ARE IN THE THROES OF CREATING, ACCOMPLISHES ALL OF THE OBJECTIVES WE ORIGINALLY SET

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THE GOOD THE BAD AND UGLY. I AM REALLY PROUD OF WHERE WE ARE AND EXCITED ABOUT THE STEPS FORWARD . I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

>> QUESTIONS? >> WANTS TO TAKE THE LEAD.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES. >> THANK YOU FOR THE MONTHLY REPORT AND WORKING WITH STAFF. I HAVE ONE QUESTION AND IT MIGHT BE FOR YOU OR SOMEONE ELSE. CAN SOMEBODY EXPLAIN TO ME , IF YOU KNOW, IF NOT I WILL ASK. THIS WHOLE PROCESS WITH GETTING A FINAL AGREEMENT WITH MARRIOTT. UNDERSTAND THERE IS A LENGTHY PROCESS. I UNDERSTAND YOU SUBMITTED THE SIDE PLANS TO MARRIOTT. AM SITTING HERE A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE I DO , UNDERSTAND CONTRACTS. I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT STUFF BUT WE HAVE BEEN AT THIS A COUPLE YEARS NOW. AT LEAST ME AND YOU A YEAR OR SO. AND MARRIOTT SHOULD KNOW EVERYTHING WE ARE TRYING TO DO HERE. SO MAYBE IT'S JUST BECAUSE I'M TIRED ON A MONDAY.

I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS TAKING SO LONG OR WHY IS MARRIOTT NOT HESITANT TO SAY OR THEY MIGHT NOT SAY HEY LET'S DO THIS. WHAT AM I MISSING IN THE PROCESS OF MARRIOTT SAYING A , FORT PIERCE WE ARE COMING . THIS IS A PROJECT WE KNOW ABOUT THAT WE HAVE BEEN WANTING TO DO. WHERE ARE WE ON THAT? THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE ME PERSONALLY AND I THINK A LOT OF RESIDENTS WHO ARE ON THE FENCE THAT THIS IS EVER GOING TO GET DONE, THAT WOULD CHANGE A LOT OF IDEAS, A LOT OF VIEWS A LOT OF EVERYTHING. I SEE ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK, I SEE ALL OF YOU GUYS HARD WORK. I SAW MARRIOTT ONE TIME. HE CAME DOWN HERE AND GIVE US A SPEECH WHICH I SEE EVERY DAY IN MY FIELD SO I UNDERSTAND SPEECHES I GET IT. HE DID WHAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO DO. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT AM I MISSING THAT THE TWO SIDES CANNOT GET TOGETHER AND MARRIOTT SINCE THE MAYOR OR THE CITY A LETTER SAYING WE ARE HERE AND READY. WE LIKE EVERYTHING. WE KNOW EVERYTHING IS GOING ON BECAUSE IT'S NOT LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE DARK, THEY SEE THESE MEETINGS, THEY ARE ON TV. I KNOW YOU SEND THEM EVERYTHING SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE HOLDUP OTHER THAN THEY'RE GOING TO THE PROCESS. I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, BUT I ALSO KNOW MARRIOTT BUILT HOTELS

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FOR ME I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING AND MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING , ASKED THE QUESTION WHY WE DON'T HAVE SOME TYPE OF , SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT WITH A HOTEL LIKE MARRIOTT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TELL US SO I CAN TELL EVERYBODY WHO WAS EMAILING ME.

YOU HEARD IT LIKE I HEARD IT MONDAY NIGHT IS THIS APRIL 7?

>> MONDAY NIGHT APRIL 7. YOU HEARD IT HE SHOWED THE DOCUMENT, SAW THE SIGNATURE THERE IS MARRIOTT. THAT'S MY QUESTION, EVERYTHING ELSE I READ THE AGREEMENT BACK AND FORTH. I'M TIRED OF READING AGREEMENTS, TIRED OF READING CHANGE ORDERS, CHANGE TO THE AGREEMENTS. I WANT TO SEE SOMETHING. THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION. SECOND QUESTION I WILL LET YOU KNOW FROM HERE LOOKING AT ME YOU CANNOT IMAGINE HOW MANY EMAILS , PHONE CALLS I RECEIVED BECAUSE SOMEBODY SAW A VAN, SOME TYPE OF WORK TRUCK GOING ON THE PROPERTY LAST WEEK AND IT WAS SOME TYPE OF ACTION GONE. MEAN, I'M LIKE OKAY I DON'T KNOW LET ME GO DRIVE BY AND SEE, THAT TYPE OF SITUATION. SO PEOPLE ARE READY FOR THIS AND I THINK IF WE CAN GET SOME TYPE OF ANSWER ON A HOTEL OR A CHAIN SAYING THAT HERE, IT WOULD BE SMOOTHER SAILING BECAUSE THEY DON'T REALLY CARE , WE CARE BUT THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT AMENDMENTS, IT DON'T CARE ABOUT LAWYERS OR MEETINGS THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT LAWYERS AND MEETINGS ALL THE LAWYERS IN THE ROOM YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. THEY PROBABLY DON'T WANT US IN THE ROOM BUT THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY. BE QUIET DOWN THERE. THE MEETINGS WITH 16 OR 17 STAFF MEMBERS, THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS DO. HOW CLOSE ARE WE TO MARRIOTT SAYING LET'S DO THIS

OR LET'S ROLL OR WHERE WE ARE? >> LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I CAN TELL YOU. I THINK WE MADE THAT OR I DID, CLEAR WHEN JOE CALLIER WAS HERE. HE LIVES MARRIOTT, HE KNOWS MARRIOTT. SO AS OUR HOTEL OPERATING PARTNER WE ARE RELYING ON HIM AND HIS TEAM WHO WE HAVE SATISFIED OURSELVES ON THEIR ABILITY TO PERFORM AND THE ABILITY A PRODUCT THEY DO TO DO WHAT THEY DO. SOMEONE TO ANSWER YOU THIS WAY. A , KYLE GAG ME WITH MARRIOTT CORPORATION CAME DOWN HERE TO ATTEND ONE OF YOUR MEETINGS AND CONFIRMED THEY HAVE INTEREST IN THE AREA AND I WAS IN THERE. IT WAS BEFORE MY TIME BUT THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD. SECONDLY, MARRIOTT DOES NOT SIGN TERM SHEETS UNLESS THEY ARE INTERESTED IN THE SITE AND THE MARKET THAT THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN. IT DOES NOT HAPPEN, THIRDLY THEY FURTHERED IT ON A LOW FRANCHISE APPLICATIONS TO BE SUBMITTED UNDER THE SAME PRETEXT UNLESS THEY ARE INTENDING TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS PROJECT. SO PERSONALLY I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER DOCUMENT THAT IS FORTHCOMING UNTIL ALL OF THE PROCESSING , WHATEVER THAT IS, TAKES PLACE. AT THE END OF THE DAY I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF IT IS A COMMITMENT LETTER , BUT SOME DOCUMENT THAT FORMALIZES THAT. AND I KNOW AGAIN I WILL TELL YOU MUCH LIKE WE, MAINSAIL IS SPENDING TIME AND MONEY GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS IN GOOD FAITH AND IT WOULD NOT DO THAT, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION BASED ON THEIR EXPERIENCE THEY WERE NOT GOING TO END UP WITH APPROVAL AND A SIDE DOCUMENT AND APPROVAL IN THE FORM OF MARRIOTT. I WILL OFFER THIS, I THINK IT IS THE

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I AM HAPPY TO DO. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND IT IS

NOT FOR ME. >> UNDERSTAND THAT AND I DID NOT

MEAN IT THAT WAY. >> UNDERSTAND SIGNING AND TERM SHEETS. I UNDERSTAND MARRIOTT IS NOT GOING TO SPEND THIS TIME AND MONEY IF THEY WERE NOT INTERESTED. I GET ALL OF THAT, I HAVE HEARD ALL OF THAT, BUT I KNOW AND UNDERSTAND AND MAYBE I'M USING THE WRONG TERM AND THE ATTORNEY CAN HELP ME, MAYBE THERE'S NOT A DOCUMENT THAT'S GOING TO SAY WHATEVER, BUT TO GET SOME TYPE OF COME I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN, MAYBE I'M WISHFUL THINKING. SOME TYPE OF ASSURANCE. ANYTHING THAT THE PUBLIC CAN SAY , WE ARE GOING TO GET THIS MARRIOTT. I HEAR THE THINGS YOU'RE SAYING BUT SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS MARRIOTT IN FORT PIERCE DOWNTOWN . I THINK IT WOULD GO A LONG WAY. MAYBE THIS IS OVER OUR HEADS BECAUSE I'M NOT IN THOSE MEETINGS AND I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT AND MAYBE MARRIOTT DOES NOT WANT PEOPLE LIKE ME AND YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY DO IN THEIR MEETINGS WHEN THEY GET THIS. I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT I'M TRYING TO SAY BASED ON EMAILS AND QUESTIONS THAT I GET. CANNOT SPEAK FOR THE REST OF MY COMMISSIONERS. I'M PRETTY SURE I CAN CLEARLY SAY AFTER TONIGHT I CAN'T GUARANTEE SO GET READY FOR YOUR EMAILS ABOUT KING'S LANDING , THEY'RE COMING. HOWEVER I'M JUST TRYING TO SATISFY PEOPLE WHO ARE WRITING TO ME. IF THAT'S THE ANSWER WE WILL GO FROM THERE.

>> IT WILL FURTHER COMMIT TO REACH OUT TO JOE AND INQUIRE AS TO SPECIFIC IS VERY DOCUMENT. IF SO TRY TO GET MORE CLARITY AND JOE AS A PARTNER IS OPEN TO COMMUNICATION MUCH LIKE I AM. SO AT THE END OF THE DAY IF HE NEEDS TO COME BY BEFORE YOU SURE

HE WOULD BE PLEASED TO DO THAT. >> WHO WANTS TO GO NEXT?

COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. >> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. JUST FOR FULL DISCLOSURE. I HAVE HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH BILL , LEADING UP TO WHERE WE STAND TONIGHT. WE HAVE HAD SOME AGREEMENTS AND SOME DISAGREEMENTS, BUT I BELIEVE THERE HAS BEEN A STRONG EFFORT TO PUT FORTH A SOLID DOCUMENT , A SOLID AGREEMENT. THIS IS NOT A TRILATERAL AGREEMENT, THERE'S NOT THREE PARTIES INVOLVED, THERE ARE TWO. HOWEVER THE CITY FINDS ITSELF IN THIS VERY CHALLENGING POSITION THAT COMMISSIONER TAYLOR WAS DESCRIBING IN MORE DETAIL EARLIER. BILL AND I HAVE HAD SOME FRANK CONVERSATIONS, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE THOSE EXCHANGES AND RELAY THOSE TO THE TEAM TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. THIS IS A VERY COMPLICATED DOCUMENT. BUT THE TERMS OF IT, THE ESSENCE OF IT IS QUITE SIMPLISTIC. JUST PRESENTING TIMELINES FOR CLOSING , IN THE EVENT THERE ISN'T CLOSING WHAT IS THE SOLUTION FOR THE CITY ? I BELIEVE THAT HAS BEEN IRONED OUT REASONABLY WELL AND THERE IS A HOST OF OTHER ISSUES THAT ATTORNEY HEDGES COVERED. I THINK IT IS 67 PAGES LONG. THERE'S A LOT OF BEEF THERE. NOT GETTING INTO THE MINUTIA OF THAT OBVIOUSLY, I BELIEVE THE TERMS THAT AFFECT THE CITY, WE WANT THIS PROPERTY CLOSED, WE WANT CONSTRUCTION TAKING PLACE , THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. AND I HAD SOME SERIOUS RESERVATIONS ABOUT THIS AGREEMENT GOING BACK A WEEK AGO, MY CONCERNS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED AND CLEANED UP IN THE AGREEMENT . I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS SOLACE TO THE REST OF THE COMMISSION BUT FROM A REAL ESTATE PERSPECTIVE I FIND IT TO BE A VERY AGREEABLE CONTRACT AND I'M GOING TO ADVOCATE THE CITY WOULD MOVE FORWARD. I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR BILL , RELATIVE TO THE TIMELINE FOR SUBMISSION NOW.

YOU MET WITH PLANNING AND STAFF TODAY, I'M SURE IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK HE CAN GIVE MORE BACKGROUND ON THIS. YOUR SUBMISSION FOR SITE PLAN IS ON TRACK FOR THE END OF JUNE? THE END OF MAY, I'M SORRY. YOU DON'T SEE ISSUES WITH THAT?

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>> THE RESPONSE FROM STAFF TODAY HEADED TO THE CONCEPT PLAN WAS POSITIVE SO THAT SHOULD SPEED UP THE PROCESS SO THERE WILL NOT BE A HUGE AMOUNT OF DEBATE GOING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN YOU AND THEN I'M ASSUMING. SO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT?

>> TO ME THAT'S A CRITICAL TIME I. I WOULD ASK TO COMMENT ON IF SUBMISSION WAS MADE BY THE END OF MAY WHAT IS THAT SET US UP TO GET TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLANNING BACK TO THE CITY

COMMISSION? >> MR. FREEMAN?

>> THANK YOU MAYOR. THE MEETING I WOULD SAY EVERY TIME WE MEET WITH MR. WARE IS VERY ENTHUSIASTIC AND ENCOURAGING.

AND VERY FORWARD THINKING. WE SET OUT CLEARLY WHAT WE THINK SHOULD BE DONE AND MR. WARE COMPLETED THOSE TASKS, IN TERMS OF TIMELINE I'M LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL QUALITY OF THE SUBMITTAL THEY WILL LIKELY GET IT AND IF IT CONTINUES IN THE SAME VEIN OF WHAT WE ARE SEEING NOW WE WILL BE MOVING VERY QUICKLY TO THE VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMISSION.

>> UPON APPROVAL OF THIS AGREEMENT?

>> UPON THE SUBMITTAL. DISAGREEMENT STANDS ASIDE FROM THE PLANNING. OBVIOUSLY IF THE AGREEMENT IS NOT , IT IS ALL CONTINGENT . THE AGREEMENT IS IN PLACE FOR THEM TO CONTINUE.

>> YOU KNOW I THINK I MADE THE POINT THAT IT WILL NEED TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE, HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD AND THEN HEARINGS AND THE CITY COMMISSION. WE ARE TALKING 6 TO

7 MONTHS POTENTIALLY. >> EARLY FALL, OCTOBER.

>> I AM POSITIVE, BECAUSE OF THE STANDARD THAT I SEE COMING IN IN TERMS OF THE PRELIMINARY PLANS, THE NUMBER OF TIMES PLANNING STAFF OR ENGINEERING STUFF OR ANY STAFF SEE PLANS THAT COME IN HALF-BAKED NOT FOUGHT THROUGH IN THAT PRELIMINARY POINT. THERE'S A LOT OF WORK DONE BEHIND THE SCENES AND YOU CAN SAY THAT FROM THE STANDARD OF THE PLANS WE'RE GETTING IN. SO I AM VERY ENTHUSED ABOUT GETTING THIS MOVING ONCE IT GETS SUBMITTED.

>> HAVING SAID THAT COMMISSIONER GAINES WHAT YOUR CONSTITUENTS ARE COMING GETTING MOVIES THERE IS MOVING ON THE TOWN OUTSIDE.

>> I TOLD THEM WHAT IT WAS. NOT MOVING DIRT AROUND MAKE IT LOOK

LIKE THINGS WERE GOING ON. >> HAVING SAID THAT MY POSITION IS THAT I AM A STRONG SUPPORTER OF THE CITY ENTERING INTO THE THIRD AMENDMENT. PERSONALLY I BELIEVE IT IS TIME FOR THE COMMISSION , CITY STAFF AND RESIDENTS OF THE CITY TO RALLY AROUND THIS DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND GIVE THEM SUPPORT THEY NEED TO GET THIS DONE . WITH THE TIMELINES WE ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW I THINK WE'RE COMING OUT OF THE GROUND JULY JULY 2026. BASICALLY A LITTLE MORE THAN ONE YEAR OUT. JUST TO TOUCH ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THIS. COMMISSIONER GAINES CAN SPEAK VOLUMES TO THIS BUT I WILL GET INTO A MOMENTARILY COMMISSIONER GAINES. MY ESTIMATION WOULD BE IF WE DO NOT ENTER INTO THIS AMENDMENT AND MOVE AHEAD WITH SUPPORT OR FOR THIS GROUP, WE WILL LITIGATE WITH AUTOBAHN TO ENGAGE THE REVERTER. WE WILL BE IN LITIGATION FIVE YEARS, HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND DOLLARS OF EXPENSE NOT AND WE ARE BACK PUTTING THIS OUT TO THE RFP.

THIS MAKES NO SENSE TO ME. WE ARE FIVE YARDS AWAY FROM BEING IN THE END ZONE HERE, I CAN SEE THE NUMBERS GOING UP ON THE BOARD. SCORE ONE FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. SCORE ONE FOR BILL AND HIS TEAM. VERY EXCITING DYNAMIC. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF WORK AND TIME COMMITTED BY ALL PARTIES TO GET TO THIS POINT, BUT WE ARE SO CLOSE. WE CANNOT FUMBLE THE BALL NOW, WE NEED TO GET THIS DONE WE ARE LITERALLY RIGHT THERE. PUT IT OVER THE LINE, LET THESE GUYS GO TO WORK AND I AM BUYING THEIR FIRST ROUND AT THE PARTY AT THE NEW BAR ON TOP OF THE BUILDING I WILL BUY THE FIRST RUN FOR EVERYBODY. EVEN COMMISSIONER JOHNSON'S REALLY EXPENSIVE URBAN.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> I WILL BE REAL BRIEF . WE HAVE SEEN PLENTY OF TEAMS ON THE FIVE YARD LINE AND STILL FAIL TO

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THAT GIVES ME GREAT HEARTBURN AND BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IT'S GOING TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHICH WAY GOING BECAUSE WHEN I SAW THAT, THAT STOOD OUT TO ME. I BOUGHT HOUSES BEFORE. I'VE NOT BUILT ANYTHING THIS SIZE, HONESTLY. A WHOLE YEAR TO CLOSE, HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT AND WHAT IS THE SAME? THIS SENDS A DIFFERENT SIGNAL TO ME.

>> UNLIKE HOUSES , IN THIS ARENA , IT IS A RULE OF THUMB , NORMAL AND CUSTOMARY WHEN YOU ARE IN A PROJECT OF THIS SIZE AND MAGNITUDE, THAT'S GOT SO MANY MOVING PARTS, TO TIE YOUR LAND PURCHASE TO THE CONSTRUCTION LOAN OF WHATEVER PHASE I IN THIS CASE PHASE I OF YOUR PROJECT IS. PERIOD. I DON'T KNOW, THAT IS THE ANSWER. THE ANSWER IS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW AUTOBAHN OWNS THE LAND. IF WE WANT TO SAY THIS THE RIGHT WAY. JUST AGAIN FROM A NORMAL AND CUSTOMARY FINANCING SCENARIO WE DO NOT LAND BANK. WE DO NOT BUY LAND AND SIT ON IT. WE BUY LAND TO DEVELOP. AND IT IS NOT ABNORMAL AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT TO YOUR DEVELOPER FOLKS THAT YOU KNOW. I'M CONFIDENT THEY WILL TELL YOU THE SAME THING. THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS. THERE IS NO ADVERSE REASON OR REASON THAT I GUESS WOULD MAKE YOU QUESTION ANYTHING, IN THE MEANTIME WE'RE SPENDING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. SO THAT'S MY ANSWER.

>> I DID REACH OUT TO THE DEVELOPERS AND I CAN FEEL THE HEARTBURN. THIS WAS NOT NORMAL TO THEM. SO IT WAS ABNORMAL.

THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BUILT BIG PROJECTS. I DID A LITTLE DIGGING MYSELF BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID WE HAVE COMMISSIONERS HERE WHO HAVE BUILT STRUCTURES BEFORE AND IT WOULD BE INTERESTED TO HEAR YOUR GUYS POINT ON THIS AS WELL. WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT, WHEN YOU ARE CONVEYING FROM AUTOBAHN TO YOUR COMPANY TO LAND AND YOU GO FORTH WITH IT AND NOW WE ARE IN PARTNERSHIP TOGETHER AT THAT POINT. TO ME IT WOULD SEEM THE LINES OF COMMUNICATION WOULD BE A LOT CLEARER, A LOT FASTER BECAUSE NOW YOU ARE THE PERSON, THE ENTITY THAT WOULD HAVE CONTROL. WE WOULD BE TALKING TO YOU AND IT SEEMS A LOT COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND WHENEVER, IT SAYS ONE YEAR UNTIL WE FINALIZE.

MY QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENS IN THAT GAP? THAT'S MY CONCERN.

WHO IS BASICALLY LIABLE AT THAT POINT BECAUSE TO ME WHEN YOU SIGN THE CONTRACT YOU ARE THE ENTITY I'M DEALING WITH.

ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT COULD GO I AM DEALING WITH YOU.

LIKE I SAID MY ANTENNA WENT UP ON THAT, THAT'S THE ONLY ISSUE AND CONCERN I HAVE WITH THIS. UNDERSTAND THE PROGRESSION. I AM ALL FOR IT, I'VE GOT THE TIMELINE, IT'S ABOUT THE CONTRACT MOVING ONE ENTITY OUT OF THE WAY AND COMING WITH A ENTITY BROUGHT TO US AND VETTED, GREAT CONVERSATION NOW THIS.

THAT'S WHERE I AM AT. >> I THINK EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID IS HOW IT HAS HAPPENED. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, EVEN WHEN I HAD MY HAT ON IF YOU WILL, THEY WERE TAKING THE LEAD SO WE WERE THE POINT, WE WERE THE CONTACT AND WE WERE FOLKS ON THE FRONT LINE WITH THE CITY DOING THIS. WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT UNDER THE LIVE OAK SCENARIO. NOTWITHSTANDING WHO HAS TITLE TO THE LAND FROM RELATIONSHIP BRINGING THE PROJECT TO FRUITION, IT IS EXACTLY AS YOU HAVE DESCRIBED AND IT WILL CONTINUE UNTIL SUCH TIME IT CLOSES AND BEYOND. I DON'T KNOW , YOU ARE DEALING AND HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH ME , IN MY CAPACITY AS THE LEAD DEVELOPER OF THIS PROJECT. THAT IS NOT CHANGED AND

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IT WON'T CHANGE. >> I'M NOT DOUBTING THAT. I WANT LIVE OAK NAME SIGNED ON THE CONTRACT AND I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO WAIT A YEAR. THE DEAL CLOSED BASICALLY. CLOSING OF THE

DEAL. OF THE LAND. >> MAYBE THIS WILL HELP. THEIR COMMITMENT TO CAPITAL WILL NOT TAKE PLACE UNTIL ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT HAPPENS WITH SITE PLAN APPROVAL. SITE PLAN APPROVAL IS NOT SCHEDULED UNTIL OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER LOOKING AT TWO MEETINGS THIS MAY GO TO DECEMBER BUT THEY WILL NOT PUT RISK CAPITAL AT RISK UNTIL THEY HAVE A SITE PLAN FINALIZED SO THEY'RE READY TO BUILD. THIS IS A BLOCK OF TIME THERE THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION , LOOKING AT THAT. AND THEN AFTER THAT THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE LENDERS. THEY HAVE TO TAKE THIS NOW THE APPROVED PROJECT, START SHOPPING ON THE STREET TO LENDERS, THAT'S GOING TO TAKE , NOT SURE WHAT IT WOULD TAKE FOR THIS SIZE DEAL TO SECURE FINANCING BUT HAVE TO THINK THAT'S A FEW MONTHS OF WORK AND DUE DILIGENCE BY THE LENDER. SO LOOKING AT THE STRUCTURE OF RECEIVING SITE PLAN APPROVAL WHICH THE BURDEN IS ON THIS, WE CREATED THE SYSTEM THEY GO THROUGH AND SUBSEQUENT TO THAT THEY HAVE TO SECURE FINANCING.

SO, TO ME THAT'S NINE MONTHS OF TIME RIGHT THERE. THAT PUTS US OUT NINE MONTHS FROM THE END OF MAY. SO YOU START ADDING THE TIMELINES AND THAT'S WHAT YOU RUN INTO.

>> I GET IT. >> I HEAR YOUR. I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. I HAVE TO CONSIDER ALL FACTORS.

THIS IS TAXPAYERS, DEMAND FOR PRODUCT, WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT AND I DON'T WANT TO GET TO A CERTAIN POINT AND I DON'T HAVE PRODUCT OR PRODUCT IS DELAYED AND ECONOMIC FORCES THAT COULD CONTROL ALL OF THIS WE ARE IN A VERY UNSTABLE TIME FINANCIALLY.

WHO KNOWS WHERE THIS THING IS GOING TO GO AND I DON'T WANT TO BE SITTING HERE A YEAR FROM NOW TALKING ABOUT ECONOMIC PRESSURE AND WE DON'T HAVE A HOTEL AND WE HAVE BEEN WAITING. I'M JUST RAISING THE CONSCIENCE OF THIS COMMITTEE TO THINK ABOUT THIS.

AND YOU ARE RIGHT, IF WE GO ANOTHER WAY IT IS STILL A DEBACLE. IT IS A HUGE DEBACLE. BUT I CANNOT SIT HERE WITHOUT BRINGING THIS UP TO THIS COMMISSION TONIGHT. SO I MADE MY

POINT. >> IF I MAY MAKE ONE COMMENT TO WHAT YOU HAVE SAID. YOU DON'T WANT TO BE A YEAR OR WHATEVER DOWN THE ROAD AND NOT HAVE A HOTEL. WHETHER LIVE OAK OWNS THE LAND OR NOT THE HOTEL DELIVERY DATE DOES NOT CHANGE SO MAINSAIL IS DOING THEIR THING, WHETHER I OWN THE LAND OR NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE PARTNERING WITH US GOING AT RISK LIKE WE ARE WITH THE FULL FAITH AND CREDIT TO BELIEVE THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. THE WHOLE TOPIC OF THE TITLE OF THE LAND DOES NOT IMPACT OR INFLUENCE THAT PROCESS NOR OUR PROCESS BECAUSE WE ARE BOTH

AFTER THE SAME THING. >> ALL RIGHT. IT IS A LOGISTICAL TIERED PROBLEM. YOU SAY I BOUGHT HOUSES, IT'S NOT TO SIMILAR IN THAT YOU GO OUT SHOPPING FOR A HOME , SECURE FINANCING, SECURE FINANCING, TITLE WORK HAS TO BE DONE. THEY ARE DOING WITH IT ON

A GRAND SCALE. >> I AGREE BUT WHEN I BOUGHT MY HOUSE I WAS APPROVED, I HAD THE MONEY.

>> THIS IS DIFFERENT. >> TO ME IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE.

THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. THIS IS AN AREA I AM CONCERNED WITH

COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. >> I DON'T DISCOUNT YOUR CONCERN, MY POINT IS THAT IN A REAL ESTATE TRANSACTION OF THIS SIZE, THE STRUCTURE OF THE TIERED ENGAGEMENT OF DIFFERENT PORTIONS OF THAT PROCESS IS THE PROCESS UNFORTUNATELY. THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE BURDENED WITH. IF I WAS SITTING IN THEIR SHOES I WOULD SAY THE EXACT SAME THING. I'M NOT GOING TO TENDER MY MONEY UNTIL I HAVE THE APPROVED SITE PLAN , I'M SIMPLY NOT GOING TO DO IT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS GOING TO DO THAT. YOU CAN SEE THE DEVELOPMENT SCHEMES THAT COME IN FROM DEVELOPERS , WE WILL BUY THE PROPERTY WHEN WE GET APPROVAL AND THAT IS PART OF THE PROCESS. FINANCING ASPECTS I'VE NEVER DONE TRANSACTIONS LIKE THAT, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE TIMELINESS TO SECURE $150

MILLION AND THE COST . >> YOU WANT TO GET COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. HE HAS NOT HAD A CHANCE TO TALK.

>> KIND OF IN THAT SAME VEIN. IN THAT SCENARIO, GET TO THE SITE

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THAT HAPPENING? >> I WOULD NOT BE HERE IF I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. MUCH TO THE COMMISSIONERS COMMENT ABOUT FACTORS WE CANNOT CONTROL AND SO ON AND SO FORTH I AM LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. WE ARE ALL MOVING INTO UNCHARTED TERRITORY AT THE MOMENT NATIONALLY AND AGAIN IT IS ALL CONJECTURE ON WHERE THAT COULD BE OR MAY BE OR SHOULD BE OR SHOULD COPY, BUT WE KNOW WHAT WE KNOW, WE DO WHAT WE DO. UNTIL OR UNLESS SOMETHING COMES UP THAT THROWS A CURVE OR SOMETHING WE DID NOT EXPECT, WE HAVE GOT BLINDERS ON AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS HOME. WE ARE SPENDING TIME AND MONEY DOING THIS , AS I SAID EARLIER TODAY, NOT THAT THIS MEANS ANYTHING TO YOU ALL , BUT I'M GETTING EXCITED. THE MORE THIS DEVELOPS THE MORE EXCITED I BECOME AND THE MORE MARKETABLE IT BECOMES.

WE HAVE TAKEN INTO CONTEXT COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS FOR EXAMPLE THE MEETING SPACE WAS BIG . WITH MAINSAIL AND WE HAVE ANOTHER BUILDING WE ARE THINKING ABOUT HAVING ANOTHER MEETING SPACE. AGAIN , WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE THE PRODUCT WILL BE THE MOST SUCCESSFUL FOR THE CITY. I BELIEVE WE ARE

HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. >> MR. WARE. JULY JULY 2026 IS

THE CLOSING, RIGHT? >> I DON'T RUN OVER THE DATE OF

THE TOP OF MY HEAD. >> JULY 2026.

>> THAT IS THE OUTSIDE CLOSING DATE SO THAT'S THE FURTHEST IT COULD BE. TECHNICALLY A DATE COULD HAPPEN SOONER DEPENDING ON THE CLOSING OF CERTAIN FINANCING SO THE LATEST IT CAN HAPPEN IS

JULY 15 OF 2026. >> DIDN'T YOU SAY EARLIER POSSIBLY IF EVERYTHING WENT RIGHT CONSTRUCTION COULD BEGIN?

>> IN THE SCHEDULE STARTS SEPTEMBER OR 60 DAYS THEREAFTER.

>> COMMENCEMENT OF VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION IS THE SAME DATE.

IF YOU LOOK AT PHASE I'S CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE FOR THE HOTEL BEGINS JULY 15 OF 26 , THE OUTSIDE CLOSING DATE. AS WELL AS THE SITE WORK APPROVALS PHASE 2 , THE SAME DATE JULY 15 26 SO

THOSE ARE TIED TOGETHER. >> HERE IS THE WAY I LOOK AT IT.

WE ARE ON THE BRINK OF SOMETHING IN A YEAR AND WE HAVE GOT PRINCIPLES HERE, WE HAVE LIVE OAK WE'RE DOING WITH. AND AUTOBAHN AND AUTOBAHN IS GOING TO BE PHASED OUT. LIVE OAK IS OUR MAIN MAN AND MARRIOTT AND MR. WARE HAS STOOD HERE AND SAID MARRIOTT IS DOING THEIR THING AND SO, I LOOK AT THAT AND THEN SAY WELL, WHY WOULD I NOT? WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE IF YOU SAY NO

TONIGHT? >> IT IS NOT PRETTY.

>> SO I DON'T KNOW. IT IS A NO-BRAINER FOR ME.

>> I THINK MADAME MAYOR, WHERE I KIND OF GOT A MORE WARM AND FUZZY'S AS FAR AS LIVE OAK COMMITMENT IS IN THIS PURCHASING SALE AGREEMENT. WITHIN THREE DAYS OF US APPROVING THIS AMENDMENT TONIGHT ARE SPENDING $180,000 TO INVEST IN THE PROPERTY AND THEY HAVE SPENT THE 250 SINCE THE PSA WHICH IS NOT A TON OF MONEY IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND ON CONSTRUCTION BUT IT IS SOMETHING. IT FEELS GOOD. LIKE I SAID TO MRS. HEDGES A COUPLE MONTHS AGO I WANT TO KNOW THE FIRST TIME THEY SPENT MONEY BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN YOU KNOW THEY ARE COMMITTED. AND I MEAN THAT'S NOT A SMALL SOME.

RELATIVELY IT IS BUT WHEN IT IS SOMETHING THAT MAKES ME FEEL

BETTER. >> I WOULD SUGGEST AND I DON'T THINK BILL IS AN EIGHT IN POSITION TO COMMENT BECAUSE IT

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>> I ALSO WANTED TO ASK WHEN YOU HAD THOSE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM WERE SOME OF THEM FP UA? JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS

HAPPENING. >> WE INCLUDED EVERYONE .

>> YOU HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE COUNTY?

>> AGAIN IN THE ESSENCE OF TRANSPARENCY FROM DAY ONE GETTING THE TEAM TOGETHER FROM DAY ONE. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE COMMENT TO COMMISSIONER GAINES. HE SAID, YOU MAY KNOW THIS ALREADY. IN TERMS OF GETTING CALLS ABOUT ACTIVITY , YOU WILL GET MORE BECAUSE FP UA IS DOING UTILITY WORK, CITY IS DOING UTILITY WORK WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE UTILITY BREEDS ACTIVITY. IN THE ESSENCE OF REMEMBERING , IF YOU WILL , THAT IS IN FACT ONGOING, THERE WILL BE A LOT OF ACTIVITY OUT THERE.

>> COMPLAINTS BECAUSE THE ROAD WILL BE TORN UP. RIGHT, RIGHT THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT. THAT HAS TO HAPPEN SOON.

>> QUITE FRANKLY AGAIN THE BIG PICTURE. IN PART WE DOVETAIL COMMENCEMENT DATE WITH THE COMPLETION DATE OF ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE WORK. THERE WAS A METHOD TO THE MADNESS.

>> WE HAVE A GRANT FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE YES. RIGHT. OKAY,

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> MADAME MAYOR. I THINK I BROUGHT IT UP A MONTH OR SO AGO BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE VISUALS ON THE PROPERTY. I THINK I BROUGHT IT UP TO AUTOBAHN OR SOMETHING . IT LOOKS PRETTY ROUGH.

>> THE VILLAS . >> THE FENCE IS ALREADY THERE.

>> THROW SOME GREEN MESHING ON THERE AND QUITE A BIT OF

DIFFERENCE. >> THANK YOU FOR DOING SO QUITE

FRANKLY I FORGOT. >> THE VILLAS ARE DIGGING AND THINGS ARE GOING SO IF THEY GET UP THERE LOOKING RIGHT OVER THAT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THANK YOU MR. WARE. THANK YOU SO MUCH

APPRECIATE THAT. WE KNOW MUST >> NOW WE NEED A MOTION TO GRANT

OR DENY. >> MADAME MAYOR WOULD BE PLEASED TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION R 25 R- R 31.

>> SECOND. >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR CALL THE

ROLL PLEASE. >> APPROVING , IT SAYS

APPROVING. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK S

COMMISSIONER GAINES? >> I'M GOING TO VOTE YES

TONIGHT. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

>> I'M GOING TO VOTE YES. >> THANK YOU SIR, COMMISSIONER

TAYLOR? >> YES MA'AM.

>> MAYOR HUDSON? >> YES MA'AM. THANK YOU VERY

[14. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>> NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

>> OKAY THIS IS THE TIME FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS COMMISSION ON ANY SUBJECT, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. AND MISS COX WILL GIVE YOU A 10 SECOND

MORNING . HELLO. >> IT EVENING MADAME MAYOR AND COMMISSION. WELCOME TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. I AM

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>> YOUR TIME IS UP . >> I WILL SAY THIS.

>> QUICKLY. >> THE 23RD OF THIS MONTH THE STATE OF FLORIDA FUNDED OUR PROGRAM FOR HISTORIC SURVEY OF LINKIN PARK AND WE HAVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. YOU ALL

RECEIVED THE FIRES. >> ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? ANYONE ELSE OKAY WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC, YOU

WANT TO? PLEASE COME UP. >> MY NAME IS BOSTON AVENUE. I AM WITH PROBLEM SOLVED AN INDEPENDENT SUBCONTRACTOR SPECIALIZING IN HISTORIC RESTORATION. I'M HERE TO PROSPECT FOR THE ONLY VACANCY ON THE HOMELESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR WHICH THE ONLY PREREQUISITE IS LIVED EXPERIENCE. I HAVE BEEN UP , I HAVE BEEN DOWN. I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO GET GUYS LIKE ME OFF THE STREET AND KEEP ME OFF THE STREET AND I WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN THIS CRUSADE BY RESTORATION OF THE GABLES HOUSE. WE MOVE THAT FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE TO WHERE IT SITS AND IT IS ROTTING. IT HAD ITS 15 MINUTES OF FAME NOW THE BONES ARE SLIPPING ON ITS PORCHES AND I MOVE THAT WE TAKE THOSE AND RESTORED TO ITS ORIGINAL EFFECT. WE KEEP FINDING BUILDINGS WITHIN THE CITY THAT NEED A LITTLE BIT OF LOVE AND LET US GUYS LOVE ON THOSE BUILDINGS SO YOU CAN SEE WE ARE WORTH SAVING. AND I PROBABLY OVERSTEPPED MY BOUNDARIES

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PERTAINING TO THIS. >> THANK YOU, SIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION.

[15. COMMENTS FROM THE CITY MANAGER]

MOVE ON. >> NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM

CITY MANAGER. >> ANY COMMENTS?

>> JUST WANTED TO SAY, GLAD TO BE HERE, I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH CITY COMMISSION THE CITY ATTORNEY AND CITY CLERK AND YOU HAVE A GREAT STUFF I HAVE MET ALREADY AND MORE IMPORTANTLY SO I'M EXCITED TO WORK THE COMMUNITY. I AM VERY PASSIONATE, BUSINESSES RESIDENTS AND ALL YOU WILL BE HEARD, ORGANIZATIONS YOU WILL BE RESPONDED TO , MORE IMPORTANTLY YOU WILL HAVE A VOICE IN MY OFFICE AS I COMMUNICATE YOUR CONCERNS TO SEE THE COMMISSION I WILL DO THE BEST TO SERVE YOU I AM HERE TO

[16. COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION]

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MISS COX.

>> I WANT TO WELCOME AND IT HAS BEEN GREAT, I THINK IS GOING TO DO GREAT WORK FOR US. WE ALL WARMLY WELCOMED HIM AND HE IS GOING TO BE A GREAT MEMBER OF THE TEAM SO WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH

HIM. >> GREAT.

>> YES-MAN BRIEFLY WELCOMING PERSONALLY I'M PROBABLY MOST EXCITED HE IS HERE AND THE PROCESS IS DONE, LOOKING FORWARD

TO MOVING FORWARD WITH YOR. >> GETTING BACK TO REAL WORK.

>> YES-MAN. >> MOVE ON COMMISSION COMMENTS WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST? COMMISSIONER GAINES.

>> VERY QUICKLY, IN. YOU KNOW, THIS WAS GOING TO SAY AN UNUSUAL MEETING, BUT WE HAVE MEETINGS LIKE THIS WE SIT HERE, WE DISAGREE WITH EACH OTHER, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY WE DO WHAT WE THINK IS BEST FOR THE CITY. LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AND THANK YOU , YOU KNOW WHERE MY OFFICE IS. MADAME MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, I MET THIS YOUNG MAN WHO CAME UP TO THE MICROPHONE AND EVEN THOUGH I KNOW WE ONLY APPOINT ONE PERSON TO THE HOMELESS BOARD BECAUSE IT IS COUNTY TASK FORCE I THINK THAT'S ME DO WE HAVE

MORE THAN ONE? >> I AM HONESTLY NOT SURE. WE

WILL HAVE TO GET THE ANSWER. >> THE REASON I ASKED HIM TO COME AND SEE HOW CITY MEETINGS GOING EVERYTHING AND HE SAT HERE THE WHOLE NIGHT. AS ONE WHO SITS ON THE BOARD AND THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOARD , WE NEED SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH HOMELESSNESS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS TO BE OUT HOMELESS. I TOLD HIM I WOULD GIVE HIM HIS TIME TO TALK AND ESPECIALLY PEOPLE THAT WANT TO HELP. IS NOT LOOKING FOR A HANDOUT HE WANTS TO HELP. I WILL REACH OUT TO THE TASK FORCE. I MADE A COUPLE CONTACTS, I WILL REACH OUT TO THE TASK FORCE BECAUSE IT IS WANTING TO KNOW WHAT HOMELESSNESS IS AND IS WANTING TO WORK WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS. BUT IT IS A DIFFERENT THING TO BE A HOMELESS PERSON WHO HAS LIVED A HOMELESS LIFESTYLE AND SIT IN A MEETING TO UNDERSTAND WHEN WHAT WE ARE SAYING WE THINK THEY NEED OR WHAT IS RIGHT SOMEONE IS LOOKING AT US LIKE THAT'S NOT IT.

THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT HIM HERE AND I WANT TO ASK AND I'M ATTORNEY IF WE APPOINT AND IF NOT I THINK HE WILL BE SOMEONE INTERESTED HE WILL BE A GREAT SPOT FOR A AT-LARGE OR SOMETHING ON THE COMMITTEE TO GIVE US THE INSIGHT WE NEED. WITH THAT BEING

SAID THAT'S IT FROM ME TONIGHT. >> MAY I MAKE SUGGESTION, NEXT MEETING YOU COULD INVITE HIM BECAUSE IT'S OPEN TO THE

PUBLIC. >> ALREADY IN THE WORKS.

>> OKAY WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO NEXT? COMMISSIONER TAYLOR ?

WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO NEXT? >> I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS.

WELCOME , REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD. FINALLY GET A PERMANENT CITY MANAGER IN PLACE. AS YOU CAN SEE WE HAD A LOT OF

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>> NEXT? >> WELCOME, LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AND HAVING OUR MEETINGS , MORE IMPORTANTLY AS YOU IMMERSE YOURSELF IN THE COMMUNITY WE HAVE A GREAT LITTLE JEWEL IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE GROWING SO WE WELCOME YOU WITH OPEN ARMS AND SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT BECAUSE I SIT ON THE LINCOLN PORK BOARD I WANT TO THANK PARTNERED WITH LINKIN PARK MAIN STREET ON A NUMBER OF THINGS AND I HAVE SEEN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, THE THINGS LINKIN PARK MAIN STREET HAS DONE FROM ENTERTAINMENT STANDPOINT, THE CHRISTMAS BICYCLE EXTRAVAGANZA , A LOT OF BICYCLES GIVEN AWAY TO KIDS. I HAVE SEEN HER GALVANIZE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS AND FOOD TRUCKS ET CETERA WHICH IS A SENSE OF ENTREPRENEURSHIP TO SERVE THE PEOPLE THAT COME TO THOSE EVENTS AND OVERALL, HER STEWARDSHIP TRYING TO DEVELOP BUSINESSES AND POUR INTO THEM RESOURCES. THERE IS MUCH MORE WORK TO DO, THAT'S WITH ANYTHING. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR COMING UP AND SHARING THAT.

WHEN YOU SAID IT, I STEPPED OFF THE BOARD, I DID LET KNOW THAT I WILL NOT BE A STRANGER TO THE MEETINGS. I CAN ATTEND TO MY LIVE IN LINCOLN PARK, INTERESTED TO SEE WE DO THINGS THAT WILL ENHANCE OUR COMMUNITY AND I THINK THERE IS A NEED FOR IT. WHAT IT MAY BE SHARES WITH US HIS COMMUNICATION IS KEY BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE WILL LISTEN TO WHATEVER THEY LISTEN TO AND IF THEY ARE IN A SILO THEY MAY NOT HEAR WHAT IS BEING SHARED. THAT'S WHERE I WANT TO GO WITH THAT, I WANT TO WISH YOU GUYS WELL, I WILL NOT BE HERE FOR THE FP ARE A MEETING TOMORROW. ONE LAST TRACK. I WISH YOU WELL WITH THAT TOMORROW.

>> MR. BRODERICK. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS IN THAT REGARD. MAYOR HUDSON TRULY APPRECIATIVE OF YOU SPENDING TIME TO TRAVEL AND DOING BATTLE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. AS YOU CAN SEE YOU WILL BE A BUSY GUY.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE COMMISSION TONIGHT , THE KINGS LANDING ISSUE IS A LEAP OF FAITH. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I THINK THE COMMISSION HAS SHOWN LEADERSHIP TO GET THIS DONE, COMMISSIONER GAINES I KNOW THAT WAS A STRUGGLE FOR YOU TONIGHT BUT I'M JUST SAYING FROM MY PERSPECTIVE I THINK IT WAS THE APPROPRIATE DECISION AND I HOPE I'M NOT REGRETTING THOSE WORDS BUT I HAVE CONFIDENCE AND FAITH AND I'M GOING TO DO MY ABSOLUTE BEST TO ASSIST THEM IN ANY CAPACITY THAT I HAVE TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF ISSUES ET CETERA SO THEY DON'T COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION. I WILL BE WORKING HARD TO WORK WITH THEIR TEAM TO MAKE SURE THIS COMES TO FRUITION AND A GOAL TO HAVE SHOVELS IN THE GROUND A LITTLE OVER ONE YEAR FROM NOW. WE WILL ALL STILL

BE HERE THEN. >> HOPEFULLY KNOCK ON WOOD. ARE YOU GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE ALERTS? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GETTING ALERTS BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS HERE AND I TALKED WITH STAFF SENATE BILL THAT'S COMING, SENATE BILL 810 THE STORM WATER INSPECTION MANDATE IS UNFUNDED, DO WE HAVE STAFF WORKING ON THAT? SENATE BILL 810 I TALKED WITH THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER SENATE BILL WOULD REQUIRE WE LITERALLY INSPECT EVERY INCH OF STORM WATER ANNUALLY AND I DON'T KNOW HOW SO WE NEED TO HAVE HOW MANY TOTAL MILES WE HAVE ET CETERA MAYBE THE BEST

COST ESTIMATE. >> DO WE DO 1/3 OF THE CITY NOW? WHAT KIND OF INSPECTION DO WE DO NOW?

>> THAT IS DUE ON WEDNESDAY. IF I CAN GET SOMETHING BEFORE THEN THAT WOULD BE GREAT THEN TOMORROW COMING UP IN THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE IS THE SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY BILL SO FOR THE PUBLIC THAT'S WATCHING SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY, RIGHT NOW IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH YOU CAN SUE FOR WHEN IT COMES TO MINUTES ABOUT IN GOVERNMENT, THEN MOVING THE

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>> WAY TOO BIG OF A JUMP THE SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY. THIS IS FORWARDED BY THE TRIAL ATTORNEYS. MR. ANDREWS DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING? YES PLEASE. MR. ANDERS IS GOING TO GIVE US SOME

GOOD INFORMATION. >> TO ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS. WE HAVE AN A LOOK BEFORE I DON'T KEEP THIS ON THE TOP OF MY HEAD WE HAVE 76 MILES OF STORM LINES. I WOULD SAY WE PROBABLY INSPECT MAYBE 1/4 TO 1/3 A YEAR. WHEN I SAY INSPECT, THAT MEANS WE CLEAN , WE MAY INVESTIGATE TO SEE IF WE HAVE ANY HOLES. THIS IS NOT VIDEOING IT EVERY YEAR. I DID SEE THAT PRICE THAT WE HAVE THAT WE SAY BETWEEN 60 AND 75 THAT WE SAY BETWEEN 60 AND $75 PER FOOT , THAT WOULD BE FOR VIDEOING AND THAT WOULD BE IN THE MILLIONS THAT WE DON'T HAVE.

>> 75, 76 MILES. THE BILL IS REQUIRING VIDEOTAPING OF EVERY SQUARE INCH OF THAT IN THE COST ESTIMATE IS 75 PER FOOT?

>> 1/3 UP TO 1/4 PER YEAR. SPOT YOU NEED A CALCULATOR TO FIGURE

THAT OUT. >> I THINK IT IS IN THE EXCESS

OF 13 MILLION. >> JAMES IS WORKING ON IT NOW.

>> THERE IS ALSO A BILL THAT TALKS ABOUT UTILITY RELOCATION AND THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE TAXPAYER. WHENEVER WE DO A ROAD AND UTILITIES HAVE TO BE RELOCATED THE UTILITY LOBBY INTEL AS HE HAS CONVINCED THEM THE TAXPAYER OUGHT TO PAY IT,

NOT US. >> YOU ARE AWARE WE ARE STRUGGLING WITH THAT NOW. WITH AT&T AND COMCAST AND THAT IS A

CONTINUAL BATTLE. >> MR. ANDREWS , WE REDID 17 STREET BETWEEN AVENUE D AND ORANGE AVENUE. WE HAD TO BURY THE CABLE LINES, AT&T I DO RECALL. 30 MILLION. THAT IS FOR THE SEWER. STORM WATER TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER PUBLIC NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND WE DID A BEAUTIFUL JOB ON THE ROAD BUT LITERALLY WE TOOK CABLES AND BURIED THEM SO THAT'S THE BILL NOW THAT WE HAVE TO FUND OR AS WE WERE GETTING HELP OR DEMANDING AT&T DO IT BECAUSE WE WERE REDOING THE ROAD AND AGAIN THOSE ARE

FUNDS WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT. >> CORRECT. UNFORTUNATELY, IF YOU RECALL WE WERE HAVING THE STRUGGLE ON AVENUE B. AND WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING BACK TO THE COMMISSION WITH THE UNFORTUNATE CHANGE ORDER THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY AT& T OR I'M SORRY THAT WAS AT&T. COMCAST WE WERE OKAY TO NEGOTIATE WITH.

AT&T REFUSED. KEEP THE PROJECT MOVING.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU MR. ANDREWS. SO YES, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING

THAT UP. >> THAT WAS A DREADFUL CALL THIS

MORNING >> I WAS ON THE CALL. ARE YOU DONE? FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES WE HAVE A CONFERENCE CALL EVERY MONDAY MORNING THEY REPORT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE LEGISLATURE THE WEEK BEFORE AND THEY'RE TRYING TO KEEP POSITIVE , BUT THERE IS

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WE WENT TO DIFFERENT MEETINGS SO WE DID NOT VIOLATE SUNSHINE WE WERE NOT IN THE ROOM VERY OFTEN. WE AS THE TREASURE COAST LEAGUE OF CITIES SAW EVERY LEGISLATOR. SPENT ALL DAY FROM LEGISLATOR TO LEGISLATOR IN THE TREASURE COAST AND WE HAD GOOD MEETINGS AND WE WERE ABLE TO PRESENT SOME GOOD STORIES ABOUT CITIES AND HOW LEGISLATION WOULD AFFECT IT. ANYWAY , WE HAD A SUCCESSFUL TRIP IN THAT WE GOT TO SEE EVERYBODY. SUCCESS WE WILL TELL AFTER THE SESSION IS OVER. WELCOME AND WE HAD A MEETING THIS AFTERNOON AND WE WILL BE MEETING LATER IN THE WEEK. SO I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING FOR YOU, A VERY POSITIVE MEETING. EXCITED ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS I BROUGHT UP THAT HE KNEW ABOUT SO I NEW STAFF OR OTHER COMMISSIONERS WERE ALREADY SHARING WITH HIM AND I HAVE A REALLY GOOD FEELING ABOUT THE TEAM AND ABOUT STAFF MORALE AND I WANT TO THANK ALL THE HARD-WORKING STAFF AT THE CITY FOR ALL YOU DO AND REALLY FOR THE HARD WORK THAT THEY DO DURING THIS TIME WHEN WE HAD ACTING OR INTERIM OR WHATEVER. WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD PROFESSIONALS ON THIS STAFF THAT KEPT THINGS GOING. VERY PROUD AND PLEASED OF THAT. WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT CUSTOMER SERVICE. HE HAS A PASSION TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC IS TREATED RIGHT AND THAT SPEAKS TO MY HEART SO I AM VERY GLAD ABOUT THAT SO I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. SO IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN. WE WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO LEAVE THE CHAMBERS BECAUSE WE'RE TURNING OUT THE LIGHTS AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO ANYBODY ON THE COMMISSION YOU CAN TALK TO THEM IN THE FOYER

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