[1. CALL TO ORDER] [00:00:08] >> I WOULD CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. THIS IS THE FORT PIERCE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, MAY 13TH. PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> [4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] >> MR. JOHNSON? >> PRESENT. >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. HERE, MA'AM. >> FIRST ITEM IS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE MARCH 31ST MEETING. FPRA SPECIAL MEETING. >> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >> GAINES? >> YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> YES, >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. >> YES, MA'AM. >> FULL APPROVAL. SECOND. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES. >> YES, MA'AM. [5. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA] >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. >> YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. >> YES, MA'AM. >> WE HAVE DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA. >> ANY CHANGES OR IS THERE AA TO APPROVE? >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND. CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES. >> YES, [6. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject on this agenda may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Chairperson, as this section of the Agenda is limited to fifteen minutes. The FPRA Board will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Chairperson, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.] MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> YES, MA'AM. >> CHAIRWOMAN HUDSON. >> YES, MA'AM. >> NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. >> THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC. MR. LEE, PLEASE, YOU KNOW THE DRILL. THREE MINUTES, STATE YOUR NAME. >> HARRY LEE JR. RESTORING THE VILLAGE EVENTS IS GOING TO BE THIS SATURDAY. IT STARTS AT 7:00. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FROM ORANGE AVENUE, AND WE'LL EVEN HIT THE SIDE STREETS GOING OFF OF 12TH AND 25TH STREET. WE WILL START AT THAT CORNER AND IT WILL END AT 12:00 NOON, AND ÷÷IF YOU CAN MAKE THAT TOO, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR UNVEILING OF OUR PROJECT THIS. THIS IS A $4 MILLION- PLUS PROJECT THAT WE'RE DOING WHICH IS GOING TO INCLUDE A BOYS & GIRLS CLUB, A BOTANICAL GARDEN, TO RESTORE THE VILLAGE KEEPERS GARDEN OF HOPE. WE'LL HAVE A PUTT PUTT GOLF COURSE THERE THAT'S BEING DESIGNED BY JIMMY FAZIO, AND A PICKLEBALL REPORT. WE'RE GOING TO UNVEIL THOSE PLANS. THE NEXT THING I WANT TO DO IS TO DO A REQUEST. AS YOU KNOW, I ORIGINALLY CAME TO YOU WITH AN IDEA TO BUILD A BOTANICAL GARDEN ON 25TH STREET, AND THAT WAS PART OF SOMETHING I WAS TRYING TO DO TO HELP IMPROVE THAT AREA ALONG WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THE PROJECT THAT I JUST SPOKE ABOUT, AND I WAS TOLD BY A COUPLE OF COMMISSIONERS THAT THAT PROPERTY WAS REALLY SMALL. IT DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH LAND FOR PARKING, BUT WE TRIED TO PROCEED WITH IT ANYWAY, AND I HAD A PROMISE BY THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH THAT THEY WOULD SELL THEIRS BUCKS THEIRS, BUT THEY CHANGED THEIR MIND. THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH IS TIED UP IN LIENS AND SOME THINGS WITH FAMILY ISSUES SO I WAS UNABLE TO GET THOSE TWO, SO IT LEFT ME WITH THE TWO PIECES OF PROPERTY, AND I HAD A TOTAL OF 60 -- I MEAN, 180 DAYS I BELIEVE÷÷IT WAS TO GET THIS THING DONE. I JUST DECIDED TO MOVE THE PROJECT FROM THAT SITE TO THE SITE THAT WE'RE DOING NEXT TO GARDEN CITY SCHOOL, AND THE PROJECT WILL NOW BE FOUR TIMES THE SIZE AND WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF LAND. NOW THAT IS -- THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN ON THAT PROPERTY, AND AS YOU KNOW THAT IF I DID NOT DO THAT IN THAT TIME PERIOD, I HAD TO FORFEIT MY $5,000, AND MY $5,000, WHICH I JUST SIGNED THE PAPERS TO DO THAT. THAT WAS A BITTER PILL TO SWALLOW, BUT THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS. I KNEW THE RULES GOING IN, BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, I ASKED THE CITY FOR SOME SUPPORT AND I KNOW YOUR BUNGT DGET IS TIGHT AND YOU DON'T HAVE IT, SO I'VE JUST FIGURED OUT A WAY TO HELP YOU BECOME A PART OF THIS PROJECT. TAKE THE $5,000 THAT I JUST GAVE TO THE CITY AND DONATE IT TO THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AND THE [00:05:01] CITY CAN BE A PART OF THIS EFFORT. WE ARE RECEIVING MOST OF OUR FINANCIAL SUPPORT FROM MARTIN COUNTY AND A COUPLE OF OTHER FAMILIES HAVE BEEN AMAZING. >> THAT'S YOUR THREE MINUTES. >> I'LL SAY THIS, IS THAT -- >> QUICKLY. >> WHEN WE DO THIS PROJECT, TRY TO LOOK AT IT A LITTLE DIFFERENT FOR NOT FOR PROFITS BECAUSE YOU GAVE ME SIX MONTHS. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE? ANYONE ELSE? [7. CONSENT AGENDA] THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHTY. WE'LL MOVE ON. >> NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY ITEM TO BE PULLED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. >> YES, MA'AM. >> CHAIRWOMAN HUDSON. >> YES, MA'AM. [a. FPRA Resolution 25-09 Authorizing or Denying a First Amendment to Grant Agreement for Commercial Facade Improvement located at 207 Orange Ave] >> OKAY. NEXT WE HAVE FPRA RESOLUTION 25-09, A RESOLUTION OF THE FORT PIERCE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, A SPECIAL DISTRICT OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA AUTHORIZING OR DENYING A FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE GRANT AGREEMENT FOR COMMERCIAL FACADE IMPROVEMENTS LOCATED AT 207 ORANGE AVENUE RELATED TO A REQUEST FOR AN EXTENSION OF TIME PROVIDING FOR A CLAUSE AND EFFECTIVE DATE. >> IS THERE A STAFF PRESENTATION, MR. JOHNSON? >> NO PRESENTATION, BUT ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> ALL RIGHT. WELL, I READ THE BACKUP AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS. BUT IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE FPRA RESOLUTION 25-09. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >> WHO HAD THE SECOND? THANK YOU. >> SORRY. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES. >> YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. [b. FPRA Resolution 25-10 Formally Establishing the FPRA Mural Program, Including Program Guidelines and Standard Template Agreements] >> YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. >> YES, MA'AM. >> CHAIRWOMAN HUDSON? >> YES, MA'AM. >> NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION 25-10, OF THE FORT PIERCE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA FORMALLY ESTABLISHING THE MURAL PROGRAM AND CORRESPONDING GUIDELINES THERETO TO BEAUTIFY THE CITY THROUGH INSTALLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND A FINAL DATE. >> MR. JOHNSON AND MS. DELGADO. HI. >> MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE FPRA BOARD, I'M HERE TO FORMALLY ESTABLISH THE FPRA MURAL PROGRAM÷÷WHICH IS PREVIOUSLY THE PAD MURAL PROGRAM. WITH THIS, WE'LL EXTEND TO THE REST OF THE DISTRICTS IN THE FPRA. SO WE HAVE THE MURALS THAT WE'VE DONE THROUGHOUT THE YEARS. 2023, WE HAD FOUR MURALS IN THE PEACOCK ARTS DISTRICT. IN 2024, WE HAD THREE MURALS IN THE PEACOCK ARTS-DISTRICT. WE'RE TRYING TO FORMALIZE THIS PROGRAM SO WE CAN EXTEND TO THE OTHER DISTRICTS. WITH THE 2025 STRATEGIC PLAN, THE INITIATIVE IS TO EXPAND TO REACH THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS AND CREATE A MORE CONSISTENT VISUAL APPEAL. WITH THE FPRA PLAN GOAL, 11.3, WE'RE TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT OF PUBLIC ART, ART- RELATED DEVELOPMENT AND ART- RELATED ACTIVITIES AND EVENTS WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA AND FORMALIZING THIS PROGRAM IS AN OFFICIAL RESOLUTION PROGRAM GUIDELINES, AND STANDARDIZED AGREEMENTS WHICH ARE THE ARLT ARTISTS' AGREEMENT AND THE PROPERTY OWNER AGREEMENT. WHAT WE HAVE NEW AGAIN, WE'LL BE EXPANDING TO LINCOLN PARK, SOUTH BEACH, AND FISHERMAN'S WHARF. THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE ARTIST APPLICATION PHASE, THE AWARD AND THE APPROVAL AGREEMENT AND APPROVAL WHICH WE WILL BE INVOLVING THE CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEE IN EVALUATING AND THEN THEY WILL MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE FPRA BOARD÷÷FOR FINAL APPROVAL. AS OF RIGHT NOW WHAT'S AHEAD IS WE HAVE A CALL FOR ARTISTS RIGHT NOW OUT FOR THE EXTERIOR BACK OF SUNRISE ACCOUNT THEATER, AND THEN TOMORROW ACTUALLY, MAY 14TH, THAT WILL BE FOR THE PEACOCK ARTS DISTRICT AND DOWNTOWN, AND WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE 2026 BUDGET TO EXTEND TO LINCOLN PARK, SOUTH BEACH, AND FISHERMAN'S WHARF, AND THAT'S IT. IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS -- >> SO THE ONE IN THE LOBBY IS NOT [00:10:03] FPRA -- >> CITY. >> YEAH. IT'S KIND OF EXCITING. IT'S SHAPING UP. >> I WAS PUTTING THAT TOGETHER. >> HE'S PUTTING THAT -- YEAH. >> EVERYONE IS, LIKE, LOOKING AT÷÷IT A LITTLE CROSS-EYED. >> AND USING VIRTUAL REALITY AND SOME -- >> I WAS SURPRISED BY THAT. >> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> I HAD ONE. >> GO AHEAD. >> GO BACK TO THE SLIDE ABOUT THE REVIEW. >> THIS ONE? >> IS THERE ANY TYPE OF -- I'M ÷÷NOT SAYING IT'S HAPPENED, IT WAS JUST A POTENTIAL THING THAT POPPED IN MY HEAD. IS THERE ANY -- WHAT TYPE OF ASSESSMENTS ARE DONE FOR THE ARTISTS THAT APPLY? IS THERE, LIKE, OBVIOUSLY THEY NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING, LIKE, HOW IS THAT -- HOW IS THAT LOOKED AT? >> YES. WE HAVE EVALUATION CRITERIACRITERIA IN THE GUIDELINES AS TO HOW THE CRA IS GOING TO EVALUATE THEM. NOW I DO -- WE USE A PLATFORM CALLED CAFE AS TO WHERE WE PUT THE CALL OUT FOR ARTISTS THAT HAS ALL THE INFORMATION FOR THE PROJECT AND THE COSTS AND THE ARTIST WILL APPLY AND THEN STAFF WILL GO THROUGH THAT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO SUSTAIN WITH BUDGET AND THEY WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE DESIGN CONCEPT, THINGS LIKE THAT, BEFORE WE TAKE IT BEFORE THE CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEE. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> ARE YOU WONDERING ABOUT HOW YOU ALUATE -- EVERYBODY HAS A DIFFERENT IDEA OF ART. IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE SAYING? >> I'M NOT GOING TO APPLY TO THIS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT. I'M WONDERING HOW THE APPLICATION PROCESS GOES BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO PAY SOMEBODY A BUNCH OF MONEY -- >> SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO PROVE ÷÷YOU WERE A MURAL ARTIST I GUESS OR SHOW SOME OF YOUR WORK. >> YEAH. IT HAS THE ORTFOLIO WHEN I GO THROUGH THEIR RESUME. THEIR INSTAGRAM, FACEBOOK, ALL THAT. >> THEN DO YOU PRESENT -- DO THEY PRESENT A CONCEPT OR DO YOU GIVE THEM GUIDE LINES FOR THE ÷÷CONCEPT? >> WE GIVE THEM AN IDEA ESPECIALLY FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS, WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE, AND THEN WE'LL PUT THAT IN THE CALL FOR ARTISTS, AND THEN WE DO ASK -- I DO ASK FOR A DESIGN CONCEPT, JUST AN IDEA SO THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE FPRA BOARD CAN KIND OF VISUALLY SEE WHAT WILL BE PUT ON THE WALL. >> WHAT WILL BE THERE. RIGHT. >> I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. >> YEAH. >> YEAH, I MAKE SURE THAT SOMETIMES THE ARTISTS DON'T, AND THAT'S KIND OF, LIKE, A -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY AN ISSUE, BUT THAT KIND OF DISQUALIFIES THEM BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE'RE VISUAL PEOPLE. SO IT'S NICE. >> AND THIS IS MURAL ART. COMMISSIONER GAINES? >> A FOLLOW- UP ON THE SAME CONVERSATION. I'VE ALWAYS SAID, LET'S REACH OUT TO OUR YOUTH IN THESE HIGH SCHOOLS AND AT THE COLLEGE AND EVERYWHERE. SO HOW DOES THIS FIT INTO IF YOU HAVE A -- ONE OF THESE YOUNG ARTISTS AROUND HERE? DO THEY STILL HAVE TO SHOW YOU -- ARE THERE ANY EXCEPTIONS TO GIVE THEM A CHANCE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE TO SHOWCASE TRUE FORT PIERCE, SOMEBODY HOMEGROWN AND SHOW TRUE FORT PIERCE? HOW WOULD A HIGH SCHOOLER OR SOMEBODY AT THE COLLEGE NOT BE INTIMIDATED BY SIGNING UP TO YOUR CALL FOR ARTISTS? THAT'S THE MESSAGE I'M TRYING TO GET AT. >> I THINK ONCE THEY, LIKE, PRESENT THAT DESIGN CONCEPT, THAT REALLY SHOWS IF THEY'RE ABLE TO PRODUCE WHAT IS DESIGNED, THE DESIGN CONCEPT. >> THAT'S FINE. DID WE -- DID WE HIT THE HIGH SCHOOLS? DID WE SAY, HEY, HIGH SCHOOLS OR SAY HEY, COUNTY SCHOOLS? >> WE HAVEN'T RELEASED IT YET. >> I'M SAYING, PUT IT IN HIGH SCHOOLS BECAUSE -- I'VE PERSONALLY SEEN GREAT ARTISTS IN THESE HIGH SCHOOLS THAT HAVE DRAWN SOME STUFF, AND I HAVE A LITTLE HAND-DRAWN STUFF IN MY OFFICE UPSTAIRS THAT KIDS HAVE GIVEN ME. IT COULD JUST BE -- I COULD SEE US GIVING A KID A CHANCE TO COME UP WITH A GREAT MURAL AND WE CAN SAY, NOW LOOK AT FORT PIERCE, BUT LOOK AT FORT PIERCE BECAUSE THIS IS BORN AND RAISED IN FORT PIERCE. JUST TRYING TO GIVE THEM A CHANCE. NOT SOMETHING TO, LIKE YOU SAY, THEY'RE VISUAL AND WE'RE, LIKE, WHAT IS THAT? I UNDERSTAND THAT, SO DO THAT JOB ON THAT, BUT I WANT THEM TO BE COMFORTABLE IN APPLYING THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO BE AWARDED A CHANCE TO SHOW THEIR ART. >> AND WHAT I'VE TRIED TO DO WITH OUR CALL FOR ARTISTS THROUGH THE PLATFORM, CAFE, IS THAT IT'S NOT JUST FOR ONE ARTIST. AN ARTIST CAN COLLABORATE WITH OTHER ARTISTS AND IT COULD BE A GROUP OF THEM TO COME TOGETHER AND PAINT A MURAL. SO THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION FOR THE YOUTH. SOMETIMES THEY CAN COME TOGETHER. >> DON'T WE HAVE A SCHOOL OF ARTS? >> YEAH. CAST. ISN'T IT CAST? RIGHT. RIGHT. >> WELL, ON A SIDE NOTE, WE DO HAVE THE YOUTH ART BANNER SHOWCASE THAT WE JUST PUT OUT. >> OKAY. >> YES, THAT'S TRUE. >> WE REACHED OUT TO ST. LUCIE COUNTY PUBLIC [00:15:02] SCHOOLS. >> THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. THERE ARE ARTISTS HERE THAT GO TO SCHOOL JUST FOR THAT. OKAY. >> IT WAS ALFRED HARE IN MS. JEFFERSON'S CLASS. >> THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING. NEXT GENERATION IS HERE. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. >> RIGHT. >> SO -- >> YES, SIR. >> TO BE CLEAR, BECAUSE THIS IS FOR -- A TEMPLATE FOR THE AGREEMENTS AND STANDARDS, AND I DON'T KNOW THIS. CONSIDERING THIS IS KIND OF DIFFERENT FROM THE CAST OR THE BANNERS PROGRAM, THEY WOULD BE CONSIDERED MINORS. SO ARE WE ING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION IN THAT AGREEMENT PROCESS? >> MADAM CHAIR. >> YES. MS. HEDGES. >> THE AGREEMENTS ARE TEMPLATES SO WE HAVE A WAY TO ADJUST THOSE, AND WE CAN ADJUST THOSE TO ACCOMMODATE IT BEING A MINOR. IT WOULD INVOLVE THE PARENT SIGNING THE AGREEMENT, AND THAT'S HOW WE SET UP THE YOUTH BANNER PROGRAM SO WE CAN CHANGE THESE TO FIT THAT IF NEEDED. >> GOOD? >> I THINK THE DIRECTION IS WE WANT TO INCLUDE THAT. >> YEAH. >> WELL, I WOULD THINK THAT IF A YOUTH APPLIED FOR THIS PROGRAM, WE WOULD CONSIDER THEM. >> THAT'SALL I ASK. >> AND IF THEY WERE CHOSEN, WE WOULD NEED TO MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT. >> THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING. >> THE AGREEMENTS, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE, LIKE, A STANDARD TEMPLATE, IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO GO TO THE CITY. ATTORNEY FOR HER REVIEW BEFORE IT COMES TO THE BOARD. >> EVERYBODY GOOD? >> EVERYBODY GOOD. >> EVERYBODY GOOD? SO I THINK WE NEED A MOTION. >> MA'AM, I MOVE TO APPROVE FPRA RESOLUTION 25-10. >> SECOND. >> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER TAILER. >> YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. >> YES. [c. FPRA Resolution 25-11 appointing Richard D. Chess as FPRA Director.] >> COMMISSIONER GAINES. >> YES, MA'AM. >> CHAIRWOMAN HUDSON. >> YES, MA'AM. >> NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION 25-11 FOR THE FORT PIERCE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, DESIGNATING AN FPRA DIRECTOR DIRECTOR, REPEALING ALL CONFLICT TIER WITH, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS RESOLUTION APPOINTS MR. RICHARD CHESS AS YOUR FPRA DIRECTOR. >> MR. JOHNSON, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? >> IT'S BEEN AN HONOR. >> LIAR. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> MADAM MAYOR, THE TOPIC HAD BEEN DISCUSSED BRIEFLY AT THE LAST FPRA MEETING OF ING SOMEBODY NOT FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S POSITION TO THIS POSITION FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. I BELIEVE IT JUST WARRANTS A DISCUSSION TO SEE IF THIS IS THE DIRECTION THAT THE BODY WOULD LIKE TO MOVE IN. I UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF MAINTAINING IT ALL UNDER ONE HEAD, CITY OPERATIONS AND FPRA OPERATIONS ARE VERY CLOSELY LINKED, BUT I ALSO SAW ADVANTAGES OF HAVING SEPARATE REPORTING RESPONSIBILITIES TO THIS BODY. THE CITY COMMISSION OBVIOUSLY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CITY MANAGER. THE FPRA BOARD IS RESPONSIBLE ÷÷FOR THE DIRECTOR OF THE FPRA, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE ADVANTAGES TO KEEPING THOSE POSITIONS SEPARATE, AND IT'S JUST FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES. I'M NOT SAYING THAT I AM ADVERSE TO THIS MOVE. I'M JUST SUGGESTING THAT I THINK IT WARRANTS A DISCUSSION TO SEE WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE'S SENSE OF THAT IS. OBVIOUSLY THE TWO ARE CLOSELY LINKED, BUT I ALSO DO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS SEPARATION. THE FPRA BOARD, OR THE FPRA AS AN ORGANIZATION HAS AN OPERATING BUDGET THAT'S SUBSTANTIAL. WE HAVE SUBSTANTIAL MONEYS AVAILABLE. I BELIEVE THAT THIS POSITION REQUIRES A FAIR AMOUNT OF DEDICATED TIME TO -- AND SHEA COULD PROBABLY SPEAK VOLUMES TOTO BECAUSE HE'S BEEN IN THE INTERIM POSITION FOR SEVERAL MONTHS NOW, BUT IT 'S NOT A CONCERN.÷÷IT'S JUST, HOW ARE WE BEST SERVED FOR BOTH ORGANIZATIONS? AND THAT'S WHERE I'M HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF A CONCERN TO SUGGEST THE AMOUNT OF TIME -- I DO NOT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S RESPONSIBILITIES ÷÷IN THE CITY MANAGER'S ROLE BECAUSE CANDIDLY, I THINK THAT GUY'S GOT THE WORST JOB IN THE CITY, AND THE DEMANDS ON HIS TIME, I CAN JUST SEE IT SINCE HE'S BEEN ON BOARD THAT WE JUST KEEP THROWING TRUCKLOADS OF STUFF HIS WAY, AND TRYING TO SORT THROUGH THAT IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME TO TAKE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION IN A WHOLE [00:20:03] HOST OF AREAS THAT REQUIRE ACTION NOW, I THINK IS A CHALLENGE. NOW WE'RE GOING TO ADD THE BURDEN OF THE FPRA RESPONSIBILITIES TO THAT ROLE. I'M JUST SUGGESTING THAT MAYBE AN ALTERNATIVE COURSE OF ACTION HERE THAT WOULD BEST SERVE NOT ONLY THIS BOARD, AND OUR RESPONSIBILITIES. WE HAVE A LOT TO MANAGE UNDER THIS MBRELLA HERE, ESPECIALLY FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE, AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING HE DOESN'T HAVE THE QUALIFICATIONS. CLEARLY HE DOES, BUT WHAT I'M GETTING TO IS THAT I DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM HIS ROLE AS CITY MANAGER AND HIS COMPLETE AND 100% FOCUS THERE. SO I'M GOING TO THROW IT OUT TO YOU GUYS. IF YOU THINK THAT THERE'S -- IF IT WARRANTS A DISCUSSION TO BRING IN ANOTHER PERSON TO OVERSEE THIS, HAVE SHEA CONTINUE IN THIS POSITION FOR THE TIME BEING. I KNOW THERE WAS A MENTION OF MAYBE SHYANNE WHO WAS THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THIS PROGRAM STEPPING INTO THE DIRECTOR'S ROLE. OPENING IT UP FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES. I WOULD LIKE THE HEAR YOUR INPUT. >> COMMISSIONER, I TOO HAD THAT WHEN WE -- WHEN WE PUT, YOU KNOW, SHEA IN THE POSITION. I HAD THAT THINKING THAT MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE TWO, BUT DURING MY WEEKLY ONE-ON- ONES WITH THE CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY, AND CITY CLERK, AND TO SEE HOW HE IS ALREADY WORKING IN EVERYTHING AND IT'S INTERTWINED ANYWAY WITH THE CITY, I STARTED, YOU KNOW, THINKING, OKAY. WELL, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE LET'S KEEP THE STATUS QUO AS IT ÷÷USED TO BE TO SEE HOW IT WAS, BUT WHAT PUSHED ME OVER -- WHAT PUSHED ME OVER WAS MR. CHESS HIMSELF SAYING THAT I COULD DO -- I COULD BE THE DIRECTOR AND CONTINUE TO WORK AS THE CITY MANAGER. THAT'S WHAT PUSHED ME OVER. HE -- HE IN THE MEETING SAID HE UNDERSTANDS IT NOW. HE UNDERSTOOD THE POSITION NOW, AND BY HIM WORKING WITH SHYANNE AND EVERYTHING IN THE CITY, YOU KNOW, HE FELT THAT HE -- HE FELT AND WAS WILLING TO STEP INTO THAT ROLE TO DO IT. MY ANSWER TO YOU WOULD BE -- TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, HE'S HERE. LET HIM -- LET HIM TELL US HOW HE FEELS ABOUT THE DUAL ROLES AND THEN HE CAN HEAR FROM -- YOU CAN HEAR FROM HIM AND NOT JUST FROM ME. SO I SHARE YOUR CONCERNS, AND I WAS ON -- LEANING ON THAT SIDE OF THE FENCE UNTIL MY ONE-ON- ONE MEETINGS, AND THEN I -- UNTIL I SPOKE TO MR. CHESS IN THOSE MEETINGS AND SAID THAT HE DID NOT MIND STEPPING INTO THE ROLE, AND BEING IT'S PART OF HIS -- I'M NOT GOING TO SAY DUAL ROLE BECAUSE IT'S -- IT'S NOT REALLY A DUAL ROLE. HE'S TWO ROLES, BUT HE DIDN'T MIND DOING IT AND TO HIM, IT WASN'T AN EXTRA BURDEN OR TAKING AWAY FROM HIM BEING CITY MANAGER, BUT HE'S HERE. I'LL LET HIM SPEAK TO THAT. THAT'S WHERE I'M AT NOW. IF I THINK HE CAN DO IT AND HE ÷÷WANTS TO DO IT, WITH HIS EXPERTISE AND WHAT HE HAS, LET HIM DO IT. THAT'S WHERE I'M AT, AND THEN SHAY SAID IT WAS A PLEASURE. JUST TELLING YOU WHAT I HEARD. >> MADAM MAYOR? >> YES, SIR. >> YEAH. I THINK THE -- IT WAS WORTH DISCUSSING. I THINK I CAN SEE POSITIVES AND NEGATIVES AND ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES OF BOTH SIDES, AND I STILL CONTINUE TO SEE THAT. I HAD THE SAME CONVERSATION WITH MR. CHESS ABOUT HIM BEING WILLING TO TAKE IT OVER AND NOW IT KIND OF MAKES SENSE FOR HIM ÷÷TO BE THERE WITH THE UMBRELLA OF KIND OF BOTH BEING ON THE SAME MISSION, AND IT REALLY ONLY MADE SENSE TO ME IF -- I MEAN, THE ONLY REASON I THINK I BROUGHT IT UP WAS IF HE WERE GOING TO PUT MS. HARNAGE IN THAT POSITION. I WASN'T ADVOCATING FOR THE HIRING PROCESS OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE. IT WAS JUST SHYANNE'S HERE. SHE'S AMAZING. SHE'S GOT GREAT IDEAS. SHE'S ACTIVELY DOING THE JOB AND HAD JUST OPENED THAT CONVERSATION. SO -- AND I'M STILL HONESTLY, I COULD GO EITHER WAY, AND I THINK -- I THINK THE FPRA IS SERVED EITHER WAY. I THINK BECAUSE SHYANNE IS THE ONE DOING THE WORK. SO -- BUT WITH MR. CHESS, IT ÷÷MADE A LOT OF SENSE AND MAYBE IT÷÷WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO HEAR FROM HIM, AND MAYBE SHYANNE AS WELL JUST AS AN OPERATIONAL FUNCTION OF AND HOW THAT WORKS ON, YOU KNOW, IN THE DAY-TO- DAY WHEN WE'RE NOT HERE, AND KIND OF HEAR THAT BECAUSE I'M HAPPY WITH CHESS.÷÷I'M HAPPY WITH SHYANNE, BUT I WOULD RATHER GET THE BOTH OF YOUR OPINIONS OFFICIALLY, AND [00:25:01] WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR YOU GUYS OPERATIONALLY. AS LONG AS EVERYTHING IS GETTING DONE, BECAUSEWE'RE THE ONES SETTING THE MISSION OF THE FPRA. WE'RE SETTING THE GOALS AND PROJECTIVES, AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S HOLDING EVERYBODY ELSE ACCOUNTABLE. >> RIGHT. >> SO YOU CAN SPEAK AND THEN I'LL SPEAK AND THEN WE CAN HEAR FROM THEM IF WE WOULD LIKE. HOW ABOUT THAT? >> SURE. SO I GUESS THERE ARE CONCERNS WITH THAT FOR ME. I AM COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT THE SUGGESTION IS RIGHT NOW, AND HERE'S WHERE I COME DOWN ON THIS. AS I UNDERSTAND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE RIGHT NOW AND WHO'S ACTUALLY UP THERE SUPPORTING HIM, HE HAS I KNOW ONE PERSON THAT'S IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE THAT WORKS WITH HIM. HIS ASSISTANT AND ONE OTHER STAFF. THE OFFICE OF THE FORT PIERCE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY AS WE SEE SITTING HERE, THERE ARE MORE STAFF MEMBERS IN THAT PARTICULAR OFFICE HEADING UP PROJECTS THAT DO WORK OUT OF THAT OFFICE. AND I LOOK AT THE WORKLOAD OF THE CITY VERSUS THE FPRA NOT TRYING TO DIMINISH EITHER ONE BECAUSE THEY BOTH ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. MY CONCERN COMES DOWN TO HR AND REPORTING, MAKING SURE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO REVISIT THAT TO UNDERSTAND. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THREE OFFICERS THAT REPORT TO US, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HAVE SOME CONCERNS WITH THAT. CERTAINLY IF THAT IS A POSITION THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO STAFF, THERE ARE NO WAYS TO CIRCUMVENT PUTTING IT ON THE STREET FOR AN ADVERTISEMENT. THAT SETS US UP FOR AN ISSUE ÷÷THAT I DON'T EVEN WANT TO EXPLORE, BUT CERTAINLY YOU HAVE TO PUT OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE FOR CANDIDATES TO APPLY FOR AND HAVE SOME TYPE OF PROCESS THAT WOULD BE FAIR AND EQUITABLE FOR ALL TO APPLY FOR THAT, INCLUDING CURRENT STAFF. SO IF THAT IS THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO GO, THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I WOULD RECOMMED US GOING AND THE ONLY WAY I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH US MOVING FORWARD IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSON THAN THE CITY MANAGER. MY ASPECT OF IT IS THAT THE CITY MANAGER IS INVOLVED WITH EVERYTHING IN THE CITY TO INCLUDE FPRA BECAUSE THE FPRA ZONE OVERLAYS OUR CITY BOUNDARIES AND OFTENTIMES THEY'RE VERY BLURRED, MEANING YOU'RE LITERALLY SWITCHING CONVERSATIONS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CONVERSATION. YOU START OUT TALKING ABOUT THE CITY, BUT LITERALLY THE PROJECT MAY BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FPRA, AND I THINK THAT THAT LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDING, THAT LEVEL OF BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE AUTONOMY TO BOUNCE BACK AND FORTH, AND BE IN THAT CONVERSATION KEEPS EVERYTHING TOGETHER, KEEPS EVERYTHING INFORMED, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT PROGRESSES I THINK FASTER AS OPPOSED OF HAVING A DIFFERENT AUTONOMY TO WORK THROUGH A WHOLE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT. SO I THINK -- AND IT CUTS DOWN ON POTENTIAL ERROR, RIGHT? AND THE WORK THAT THE FPRA STAFF IS DOING IS PHENOMENAL, AND CERTAINLY THAT IS -- IT'S JUST MY OPINION ON HOW I LOOK AT THIS AT THIS POINT. >> I HAVE BEEN THINKING A LOT ABOUT THIS SINCE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS THE LAST TIME, AND I THINK THE REASON THAT THIS IS -- WE'RE DISCUSSING IT IS BECAUSE -- BECAUSE WE HAD A VACANCY IN THE CITY MANAGERS, SO WE HAD TO -- JUST LOOKING AT THIS ALL DIFFERENTLY, AND ALL IN A NEW WAY, AND I THINK ALSO THAT WE HAVE MORE MONEY TO SPEND NOW THAN WE DID BEFORE BECAUSE IT ALL WENT TO DEBT BEFORE. NOW THE FPRA, THERE ARE MORE -- WE CAN HAVE MORE PROJECTS, AND I THINK THIS FPRA BOARD, AND YOU EXPRESSED IT, IS WE WANT MORE INPUT -- WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR INPUT IS LISTENED TO, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FPRA IS DOING WHAT WE WANT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU REALLY WANT. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INDEPENDENCE. YOU WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FPRA IS DOING WHAT'S WANTED, AND SO -- BUT WE ALSO -- WE NEED THE CITY MANAGER -- WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE CITY MANAGER IS DOING WHAT WE WANT, RIGHT? SO I BELIEVE -- I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT PRACTICAL THINGS LIKE THE AUDIT. THE AUDIT IS DONE IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, AND THE FPRA IS INCLUDED IN THAT AUDIT. SO YOU WOULD -- I'M NOT SAYING YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A WHOLE DIFFERENT STAFF. I JUST DON'T -- IF YOU HAD A FPRA DIRECTOR THAT WAS INDEPENDENT OF THE CITY MANAGER, THAT PERSON WOULD BE TELLING OTHER PEOPLE WHAT TO DO, RIGHT? THERE WOULD BE -- SO WHAT I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE, WE CAN ACHIEVE BY -- THEY'RE LISTENING RIGHT NOW. WE WANT MORE INPUT IN WHAT THE FPRA IS SPENDING ITS MONEY ON. WE HAVE INPUT. I KNOW WE APPROVE THINGS, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. [00:30:02] MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT THE FPRA -- ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YOU WANT MORE OF A DIRECT INFLUENCE ON IT? >> CLEARLY. I THINK THAT THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY. >> RIGHT. >> YOU KNOW, I ALMOST LOOK AT IT÷÷FROM THE PERSPECTIVE IS THAT -- AND THIS IS GOING TO SOUND RATHER CALLOUS. THERE'S $6.5 MILLION SITTING IN THE FPRA OPERATING ACCOUNT FOR LACK OF A BETTER DESCRIPTION. WHEREVER IT'S BEEN HELD, AND IT APPEARS TO ME THAT PEOPLE ARE CIRCLING AROUND THAT MONEY. EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO COME IN AND MAKE APPLICATION TO GET FPRA MONEY IN SOME CAPACITY. I WANT A GUARD DOG AT THE DOOR. I WANT SOMEBODY THAT REPORTS DIRECTLY TO THIS BODY, AND IS HELD RESPONSIBLE BY THIS BODY, AND MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT IF WE -- IF WE COMBINE THESE POSITIONS INTO ONE, ARE WE CREATING A PROBLEM FOR THIS BODY IF WE'RE DISSATISFIED WITH THE STEWARDSHIP OF THE FPRA? BECAUSE WE'VE COMBINED BOTH POSITIONS INTO ONE. THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS. >> BUT STILL, IF YOU DO, YOU'RE STILL DISSATISFIED WITH THAT ONE. >> CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. >> YEAH. >> SO I JUST LOOK AT IT FROM -- I WANT DIRECT -- A DIRECT LINE OF RESPONSIBILITY FROM THE FPRA DIRECTOR TO THIS BODY. THAT'S IT. NOTHING ELSE IN BETWEEN, AND ÷÷CURTIS, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE TAKING THAT SIDE OF THE DISCUSSION, BUT AREN'T WE DOING THAT NOW BY APPOINTING THE CITY MANAGER BY FILLING THAT ROLE? WE'RE NOT INTERVIEWING ANYBODY ÷÷ON THE STREET. WE'RE SAYING WE'RE GIVING HIM THAT POSITION. >> BUT TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, WE HAVE THREE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICER THAT IS REPORT TO US. >> IN THE CITY COMMISSION. >> THE CITY COMMISSION, BUT -- BUT I STILL THINK THAT YOU'RE RIGHT. THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND/OR FPRA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO ME IS EXACTLY WHAT THE MAYOR JUST SAID, AND WE'RE HOLDING THAT ONE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MONEY, THE STEWARDSHIP, HOW IT'S SPENT, WHERE IT'S SPENT, ET CETERA. MAKING SURE THAT THOSE PROJECTS THAT COME ARE HANDLE D APPROPRIATELY AND ALL RESOURCES ARE THERE. MY CONCERN IS, AS THE FPRA GOES DOWN ONE PARTICULAR ASPECT OF A ÷÷PROJECT AND WE REALLY NEED MORE CITY ASSETS HERE. THAT FPRA EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANY AUTONOMY OVER THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT OR PLANNING. THOSE ARE CONCERN THAT COME INTO PLAY. IT'S DIFFICULT WHEN THE CITY MANAGER IS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND THERE ARE ISSUES WITH STAFF THAT HE IS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR. >> THERE IS SOME OVERLAP. >> THERE IS SOME OVERLAP AND I'M JUST SAYING THAT TO ME, FOR NOW, IT MAKE SENSE S SENSE THAT THAT OVERLAP HAS GOTTEN US SO FAR -- WE HAVE HAD SOME HICCUPS. I'M NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND SAY WE HAVEN'T HAD HICCUPS, BUT AT LEAST IT'S CONSISTENT AND WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT ONE PERSON WITH THIS ISSUE THAT MAY BE THE CITY MANAGER AND/OR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. >> THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT I WOULD MAKE IS IF MR. CHESS DECIDES HE HAS HAD ENOUGH OF THE PROBLEMS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE TOMORROW AND TENDERS HIS RESIGNATION, WE'RE BACK TO NOW LOSING THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND THE CITY MANAGER AT THE SAME÷÷TIME, AND DO WE WANT TO GO BACK DOWN THAT ROAD AGAIN OF TRYING TO COBBLE TOGETHER SOMETHING IN THE INTERIM? SHAY HAS DONE A FINE JOB AS THE INTERIM DIRECTOR, BUT THIS BODY HAS BEEN FORCED TO PICK UP RESPONSIBILITY. WHICH IS NOT A BAD THING. CANDIDLY IT'S GIVEN THIS BODY, AND AS THE CITY COMMISSION, WE'VE BECOME MORE IMMERSED MORE IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS THAN MY TIME IN THE CITY MISSION. ALL OUR EGGS ARE IN ONE BASKET AND IF THINGS WERE TO GO AWRY BY÷÷MR. CHESS' DECISION OR OURS, WE HAVE TWO VACANCY. >> WHEN WE LOST THE CITY MANAGER AND FPRA DIRECTOR, THINGS CONTINUED. >> YES. >> BECAUSE WE HAD -- I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'M GOING TO ASSUME IT WAS SHYANNE, AND BECAUSE WE DON'T MESS WITH -- WE DON'T KNOW WHICH STAFF DOES WHAT, AND THAT'S NOT -- THAT'S IN THE CHARTER THAT WE DON'T KNOW THAT, BUT -- BUT WE DID CONTINUE ON, BUT I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND I THINK THAT THEY'RE LISTENING TO SAY, WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN A POSITION ANYMORE OF, NOT THAT WE EVER WERE, BUT NOW THAT WE'VE BEEN IN THIS POSITION WHERE WE HAVE HAD ACTING AND INTERIM, AND WE HAVE BEEN -- WE ÷÷HAVE HAD MORE KIND OF HANDS- ON ÷÷BECAUSE OF THAT, AND THE FEELING'S PRETTY GOOD, AND WE WANT TO HAVE A STRONG SAY SO IN IT, AND I THINK THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT OUR STAFF IS ÷÷LISTENING TO RIGHT NOW. [00:35:04] >> OKAY. OBVIOUSLY I GET IT -- I'M FINE. I'M NOT ADVERSE TO THIS. I JUST HAVE MY CONCERNS AND RESERVATIONS ABOUT GOING DOWN THIS PATH, BUT I'LL PUT IT IN CHECK AND I'LL GO ALONG WITH THE MAJORITY HERE AND SAY, FINE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OKAY. THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS AND MY RESERVATIONS, AND I JUST HOPE AND PRAY THAT THEY DON'T -- THEY'RE NOT -- >> I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM MR. CHESS IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH THIS COMMISSION? >> I WOULD TOO, BUT JUST -- JUST FOR THE RECORD, MADAM CHAIR, COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, THE MOMENT THAT THE FIVE OF US STOP SAYING WHAT WE WANT OR WHAT OUR CONCERNS ARE, IS THE TIME THAT WE NEED TO LEAVE THESE SEATS. >> YES. >> WE WERE ELECTED TO SAY WHAT ÷÷YOU FEEL, AND WHAT YOU THINK IS THE BEST FOR THE CITY. SO DON'T -- SO I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THE -- I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THE CONVERSATION UP BECAUSE, AGAIN, FOR THE PUBLIC, YOU AND I CAN'T GO TO THE PARKING LOT AND TALK ABOUT THIS. YOU AND I CAN'T GO OUT OF THESE CHAMBERS AND TALK ABOUT THIS. IF WE DO, YOU KNOW, THE MADAM ÷÷ATTORNEY WOULD HAVE A FIT AND WE WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF SOMETHING CALLED THE SUNSHINE LAW. FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, GO LOOK IT UP. I WISH WE COULD BECAUSE A LOT OF ISSUES WE COULD ADDRESS AND JUST BE TAKING CARE OF. THE FIVE OF US COULD GET TOGETHER IN A ROOM AND HASH SOME STUFF OUT AND GET IT TOGETHER. HOWEVER, YOUR DISCUSSION HAS NOW SHOWN ME HOW YOU BRING IT UP. ALL FIVE OF US THINK, YOU KNOW, ÷÷WE HEARD EVERYBODY. THIS IS -- I'LL SAY THIS, AND I'LL BE QUIET. I WAS ON YOUR SIDE. I THOUGHT THAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN -- I THOUGHT THAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TWO PEOPLE UNTIL I HAD MY ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS ON WEDNESDAYS THAT WE ALL HAVE, AND MR. CHESS SAID, I CAN DO THIS. I NEED TO DO THIS. WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER ANYWAY. THAT'S WHAT HE TOLD ME IN MY MEETING. I'M NOT IN YOUR MEETINGS, SO WHEN HE SAID THAT, I FELT CONFIDENT THAT OKAY. YOU ALREADY KNOW WHAT'S ON YOUR PLATE. IF YOU THINK YOU CAN HANDLE THIS, AND KEEP US GOING AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO, AND YOU AND SHYANNE AND HER OFFICE AND EVERYBODY WORKING TOGETHER TO DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO, I'LL SIT BACK AND SAY, OKAY. I HAVE NO PROBLEM. YOU'VE PUSHED ME BACK OVER ON THIS SIDE OF THE FENCE. SO I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW IF ÷÷YOU DON'T SAY WHAT YOU JUST SAID, WE DON'T KNOW HOW YOU FEEL, AND WE DON'T HAVE THIS DISCUSSION. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. WE DON'T HAVE TO AGREE. ALL OF US DON'T HAVE TO AGREE. THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS WE'RE NEVER GOING TO AGREE ON. WE ALL KNOW THAT, BUT AT LEAST DISCUSS IT UP HERE SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS AND THEN WE GO FROM THERE. >> YOU KNOW ME WELL ENOUGH TO KNOW I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT'S ON MY MIND. >> DITTO. DITTO. >> I THINK COMMISSIONER BRODERICK BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT OF THE AUTONOMY OF HAVING A SEPARATE DIRECTOR AND A CITY MANAGER BECAUSE YOU RUN INTO SITUATIONS WHERE THE CITY MANAGER'S LINES ARE BLURRED AND HE'S LOOKING AT BOTH AGENCIES AT THE SAME TIME, AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY WANTS TO ACCOMPLISH THIS GOAL, WE CAN KIND OF USE THE FPRA TO HELP OUT WITH THAT GOAL, WHERE IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO ME TO HAVE TWO PEOPLE NEGOTIATING THAT TYPE OF RELATIONSHIP. SO THE FPRA IS BEING USED TO THE BEST OF ITS ABILITY AND NOT GETTING CAUGHT UP IN THE BUREAUCRACY OF THE CITY. SO ADDING THAT EXTRA LAYER OF THE CITY MANAGER BLURS THE LINES EVEN FURTHER BECAUSE IT BROUGHT UP COMMISSIONER JOHNSON WHERE WE'RE EVEN CONFUSED ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO OPERATE BECAUSE WE'RE THE FPRA BOARD. SO WE'RE NOT ADDING ANOTHER CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICER BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THE CITY COMMISSION RIGHT NOW. WE'RE THE FPRA BOARD, AND THE FPRA DIRECTOR REPORTS TO THE FPRA. BOARD THAT WE ARE UP HERE. I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER BRODERICK JUST AS WE CAN APPOINT RICHARD CHESS TONIGHT, WE CAN ALSO APPOINT SOMEONE ELSE, AND JUST AS WE APPOINTED MR. CHESSS AS OUR CITY MANAGER, WE COULD ÷÷HAVE APPOINTED SOMEONE ELSE. AS MANY AS BECAUSE WE WANT TO DO÷÷IT, AND NOT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO. I OPEN THAT CONVERSATION BECAUSE THESE LINES DO CONTINUE TO BE BLURRED, AND I WANT THE FPRA TO WORK AS EFFICIENTLY AND AS EFFECTIVELY AS IS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THE FPRA. THAT'S DOING THE THINGS THAT THE CITY CAN'T DO. >> AND AUTONOMOUSLY. >> RIGHT. RIGHT. >> AND IT'S ALSO -- IT HAS THE MONEY THAT THE CITY CAN'T DO, AND IT IS -- AND IT HAS ALSO RESTRICTIONS. CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS. >> RIGHT. >> AND IF THE LEGISLATURE HAS ITS WAY SOMEDAY SOON, WE'LL EVEN BE FURTHER [00:40:01] RESTRICTED. SO THERE ARE -- BUT THE CONSTITUTION -- THE CHARTER OFFICERS ARE HERE. I KNOW YOU SAY THAT -- THEY'RE PART OF -- EVEN THOUGH THOUGH DON'T HAVE AN ACTUAL ROLE IN THE FPRA, THEY ARE HERE PLAYING A ROLE IN THE FPRA. >> YES, THEY ARE. SO MADAM MAYOR, HERE'S MY THING. I AM NOT COMFORTABLE TONIGHT BESIDES WHAT WE'RE HAVING. IF STAFF COMES BACK AND THEY'VE MET AND MR. CHESS HAS MET WITH ALL THE OTHER PLAYERS HERE, WE'VE WORKED THIS OUT THROUGH HR AND ALL THIS STUFF IS WORKED THROUGH A PROCESS AND I'M CLEAR ON AND HOW TO INEATE HOW THIS WORKS, WHO'S REPORTING TO WHO, I'M SAYING STAFF SHOULD REALLY BE TALKING TO US. THEY HEAR OUR CONVERSATION NOW. THEY HEAR YOUR CONCERNS NOW. I THINK WE SHOULD ALLOW THEM TO WORK THROUGH, BUT RIGHT NOW I THINK WE NEED TO PROCEED AS WE'RE GOING, AND IF MR. CHESS COMES BACK TWO MONTHS, SIX MONTHS FROM NOW, A YEAR FROM NOW AND SAYING, HEY, WE NEED TO SEPARATE, THEN I THINK THAT WE CAN TAKE THAT UP, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, THEY CAN BE WORKING TOWARDS ADDRESSING WHAT THESE CONCERNS ARE, AND IF WE COME BACK TWO MONTHS FROM NOW AND WE ÷÷STILL AREN'T SATISFIED, HOPEFULLY MORE WORK WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO DO THIS, AND WHAT THE THINGS THAT WE AREN'T THINKING ABOUT THAT WILL BE IMPLICATIONS AS A RESULT OF BRINGING THIS OTHER POSITION ON BECAUSE I DON'T SIT HERE AND KNOW ALL OF THOSE IMPLICATIONS RIGHT NOW OF REPORTING STRUCTURE, HOW THEY WOULD INTERACT WITH PARTS OF THE STAFF. ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO BE FLUSHED OUT NOW SO THAT THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING. AND THAT'S A CONCERN THAT I HAVE. >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION. >> SURE. >> I THINK THIS MIGHT BE ON EVERYBODY'S MIND. SARA, MAYBING E THIS IS SOMETHING YOU CAN ADDRESS. CITY AUTHORITY HAS CHARTER OFFICERS. NOTHING UNDER THAT. WHAT ABOUT THE FPRA BOARD? WE DON'T HAVE CHARTER CAN OFFICERS. CAN THERE BE A DIRECTOR THAT REPORTS DIRECTLY TO THIS BODY? >> IT'S HAPPENED BEFORE. >> YES. >> MADAM CHAIR, BOARDMEMBERS OF THE BOARD. THE ANSWER IS YES. YOU COULD HAVE A DIRECTOR THAT REPORTS DIRECTL TO THIS BOARD. THIS CITY HAS HAD A DIRECTOR ÷÷THAT WAS SEPARATE FROM THE CITY MANAGER IN THE PAST. IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THE FPRA IS ESTABLISHED NOT BY THE CHARTER LLY, BUT AN ORDINANCE THAT ESTABLISHED THE FPRA. I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU ARE REQUIRED TO DO A SEARCH BASED ON THE BYLAWS THAT ESTABLISHED THIS FPRA BOARD, SO AS YOU COULD APPOINT MR. CHESS TONIGHT, YOU COULD APPOINT SOMEBODY ELSE OR DO AN OUTSIDE SEARCH OR WHATEVER SEARCH YOU WANTED TO DO. SO YOU HAVE OPTIONS WITH HOWEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, FUNCTIONALLY, HOW THAT REPORTING MECHANISM WOULD EXIST. CURRENTLY YOUR FPRA EMPLOYEES GO THROUGH YOUR FPRA DIRECTOR. THEY'RE HANDLED THROUGH THE FPRA. SO THAT WOULD CONTINUE TO EXIST. GETTING INTO THE NITTY- GRITTY DETAILS OF THAT, WOULD NEED TO ÷÷BE HR TO ANSWER ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS. HR IS UNFORTUNATELY NOT WITH US TONIGHT. MR. JOHNSON, THEY REPORT TO HIM. I DON'T KNOW THAT HE SPECIFICALLY KNOWS THE NITTY- GRITTY OF HOW THE FPRA EMPLOYEES LINE UP AND HOW THAT HAPPENS. SO IF THERE WERE MORE IN-DEPTH QUESTIONS THAN THAT, WE WOULD NEED HR TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS FOR BOARDMEMBER JOHNSON. >> THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN. I'M NOT SAYING ANTI, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE WE REALLY HAVEN'T DELVED INTO THAT BECAUSE WE'VE LET THE CITY MANAGER HANDLE IT. >> I AGREE. I AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK THIS BODY AS AN EMPLOYER, AND AS A MANAGER OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN REAL ESTATE AND CASH, WE NEED TO HAVE A VERY CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THE WHOLE ORGANIZATION WORKS. THIS IS A SEPARATE BUSINESS ENTITY FROM THE CITY ITSELF. >> WITH DIFFERENT RULES. WITH DIFFERENT RULES. >> A LOT MORE MONEY. >> AND A LOT MORE MONEY. >> THAT'S THE CONCERN IS WE NEED SOUND FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT AND I BELIEVE MR. CHESS ACTUALLY BRINGS THAT WHOLE PACKAGE OF FINANCIAL CAPABILITY TO THE TABLE, BUT I AGREE WITH CURTIS COMPLETELY, THAT WE NEED AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW ALL THIS KIND OF ROLLS OUT. >> RIGHT. >> AND THE FACT THAT OUR FPRA EMPLOYEES SUBJECT TO OUR OVERSIGHT, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. ARE THEY SUBJECT TO ALL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AS OUTLINED IN THE CITY HANDBOOK FOR EMPLOYEES? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. >> GOOD POINT. >> ET CETERA, THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS TO EITHER, CURTIS, AND I'M -- MY CURIOSITY IS NOW PIQUED BECAUSE -- >> YEAH. >> I'M LOOKING AT THIS AS A BUSINESS ORGANIZATION, AND WE ARE THE -- WE'RE THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. THAT'S WHAT IT IS, AND WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE ACCOUNTABLE FOR ÷÷EVERY PENNY [00:45:02] AND EVERY ASSET THE FPRA OWNS. I WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING THE BEST GUIDANCE, THAT WE'RE GETTING THE BEST WORK EFFORT. IF THIS IS A FULL- TIME POSITION OR VIRTUALLY A 20- HOUR WEEK POSITION, I CAN'T EXPECT THE CITY MANAGER WHO'S GOT 50 BALLS IN THE AIR RIGHT NOW HE'S TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, EXPECT HIM TO BE ABLE TO DEDICATE -- CARVE OUT THAT AMOUNT OF TIME TO DEDICATE TO THE FPRA BECAUSE THERE ARE COMPLICATED ISSUES THAT COME IN FRONT OF THE FPRA, AND I HAVE A SENSE THERE'S MORE COMPLICATED ISSUES COMING. >> I WOULD AGREE BECAUSE VICERER HAVE VERSA, BUT THEY SUPPORT CITY FUNCTION AS WELL. >> THAT'S WHAT I -- >> YOU'RE RIGHT. >> RIGHT. >> SO -- BUT IT -- >> IT'S TOTALLY PAID BY FPRA -- I DON'T KNOW HOW THE SALARIES ARE -- WE DON'T KNOW THAT. >> THAT WOULD BE THE MISTAKE OF HAVING THIS SILOED IN ONE PLACE. HIRE THIS PERSON INTO THIS DEPARTMENT, BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO GIVE THEM THIS GROUP OF RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE FPRA. I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU CAN DO THAT. >> YES. MS. HEDGES DO YOU WANT TO CHIME IN HERE. >> MADAM, BOARDMEMBERS. CAUTION OF SPECULATING. SO WE'RE NOT OPENING OURSELVES UP TO ANY ISSUES BY SPECULATING ON PROBLEMS THAT PROBABLY DON'T EXIST TO ASSUAGE SOME OF YOUR ÷÷ALL'S FEARS AND THE EMPLOYEES, THEY ARE SUBJECT TO THE CITY'S RULES AND EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK. YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT. SO THEY DO FOLLOW THAT. >> SHE DROVE THAT SPIKE HOME RIGHT AWAY. >> JUST SO THEY KNOW IN CASE THEY WERE QUESTIONING. THEIR YMENTS COME THROUGH THE FPRA, SO THAT IS BEING HANDLED BY THE FPRA, BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S AN OVERLAP BECAUSE THE ÷÷FPRA IS A DEPENDENT SPECIAL DISTRICT. >> IT'S A CREATURE OF THE CITY. >> YES. WHEN I'M SAYING NITTY- GRITTY DETAILS, IF THERE'S A COMPLAINT,÷÷HOW IT WORKS ITS WAY WILL YOU HR, AND HOW IT FUNCTIONS, THOSE THINGS I DON'T KNOW. THAT WOULD BE AN HR ANSWER THAT YOU WOULD ALL NEED, I THINK, TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT MORE IN- DEPTHLY, BUT GENERALLY FPRA S ÷÷HANDLE THE FPRA, AND THEY ARE SUBJECT TO OUR RULES BECAUSE THEY ARE STILL A DEPENDENT ENTITY WITHIN THE CITY. >> THAT'S A GOOD- SIZED BUSINESS ENTITY. CASH ON HAND AND REAL ESTATE ASSETS. >> YOU CAN SEE WHY WE HAVEN'T HAD TO THINK ABOUT IT MUCH BECAUSE IT ALL WENT TO DEBT. >> THERE WAS NO MONEY. WHEN THERE'S NO MONEY, IT'S EASY. THERE'S NO DECISIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE. WELL, NOW WE HAVE THE FORTUNOUS SCENARIO THAT WE HAVE, WITH CASH LOW, ANNUALIZED CASH FLOW THAT'S DETERMINABLE, AND WE HAVE A BUCKET LOAD OF REAL ESTATE ASSETS KICKING AROUND OUT THERE THAT WE STILL HAVEN'T REALLY QUANTIFIED WHICH IS ANOTHER PROBLEM THAT MR. CHESS AND I HAVE DISCUSSED AT LENGTH, AND LEASE AGREEMENTS AND ALL THIS STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE COMPARTMENTALIZED AND DEALT WITH. THIS IS LIKE -- IT'S LIKE RUNNING A REAL ESTATE COMPANY ÷÷WITH A N OF MONEY ON HAND ÷÷READY TO DO SOMETHING. THEY HAVE DRIVE POWER AND FUNDS WITHIN THE LIMITATIONS FOR WHATEVER THE CHARTER FOR THIS ORGANIZATION IS. I AGREE WITH CURTIS. WE NEED TO BECOME EDUCATED ON WHAT THIS ORGANIZATION IS. WE KNEE HR IN HERE. WE NEED FINANCE IN HERE TO TEACH US WHAT THIS ORGANIZATION HAS, AND ITS FUNCTIONALITY. I AGREE. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE FOLKS HERE TO GET THEIR INPUT ON THIS. >> I WOULD TOO. I THINK MR. CHESS FIRST, BUT -- THEN IF YOU WOULD LIKE -- DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? >> MR. JOHNSON. >> I'M SORRY. >> I'M SORRY, MS. CHAIRWOMAN. >> I LOOKED THIS WAY AND I DON'T SEE THIS WAY. >> YES, MA'AM. JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, FOLLOWING SARA'S STATEMENT, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WITHOUT EXCEPTION, ABSOLUTELY EVERYBODY INCLUDING THIS BODY'S CHECK GETS PAID BY THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, RIGHT? WE ALL AS EMPLOYEES ARE BOUND BY THE RULES AND REGULATIONS NO MATTER WHICH SUBORGANIZATION OR OFFSHOOT OF THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE SOURCED FROM IF I CAN CALL IT THAT. FURTHERMORE, ARE THE BENEFIT PACKAGES, ALL THOSE THINGS ARE TIED TO THAT. SO I THINK THE IDEA IS CLEAR AS TO, YOU KNOW, THAT LEVEL OF -- OF WHO THE ACTUAL EMPLOYER IS. WHERE THE PAYMENT PACKAGE COMES FROM, THE BENEFIT PACKAGE, AND I THINK WHAT HAS HAPPENED HISTORICALLY BECAUSE THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY CLEAR DEFINING OF THESE ROLES AND, YOU KNOW, SEGREGATION OF RESPONSIBILITY -- NOT SO MUCH RESPONSIBILITIES, BUT ANY DISCIPLINARY ISSUES THAT ARISE. WE HAD THIS RECENT -- NOT RECENTLY. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, IF YOU WILL RECALL WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. RIGHT? THERE WERE SOME ISSUES GOING ON THERE, AND THIS BODY -- THE COMMISSION, I SHOULD SAY, THE COMMISSION AT THAT TIME DIRECTED THE CITY MANAGER, AND THEY CLEARLY STATED THIS WITHOUT ANY,÷÷YOU KNOW, MISUNDERSTANDING . WE EXPECT YOU TO TAKE CARE OF THE EMPLOYEES. THAT'S WHAT THIS BODY STATED, ÷÷ALL RIGHT? IT'S NOT IN WRITING. IT'S NOT IN THE POLICY. THERE'S BEEN SOME OTHER ISSUES ON WHAT REPORTS TO WHO [00:50:03] FROM A CHARTER STANDPOINT, BUT THIS BODY MADE THAT STATEMENT AT THAT÷÷PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME. THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO BE IRONED OUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS LINE OF THINKING. >> GOOD POINT. >> AND MADAM CHAIR, HE MEANS WAY MORE THAN A COUPLE. BEFORE ME. >> BEFORE MS. HEDGES. >> YES. >> YES. >> PRE-SARA. >> LET THE RECORD SHOW. PRE- CURRENT CITY ATTORNEY. ARE WE READY TO HEAR FROM MR. CHESS? YES, PLEASE. MR. CHESS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND -- AFTER HEARING WHAT WE'VE SAID, EITHER MAKE US FEEL BETTER OR WORSE. >> DON'T CONFUSE US. >> BRING SHYANNE DOWN. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS÷÷ OF THE BOARD. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE OR DO YOU WANT ME TO JUST STATE -- >> FROM HEARING FROM OUR DISCUSSION KIND OF TELL US KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE THINKING, AND HOW YOU CAN REASSURE US THAT -- HOW WE CAN GO FORWARD. GIVE US YOUR INPUT. >> YOU ALL HAVE MADE VERY VALID POINTS, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. CERTAINLY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S SEAT AND WORKING WITH CRAS, AND IN THIS CASE, FPRAS, THERE'S A DIRECT IMPACT TO MY OFFICE IN WHAT THE CITY DOES, AND I THINK I MENTIONED THIS TO YOU, IN OUR ONE-ON- ONES, THAT THE FPRA IS A BLENDED COMPONENT UNIT MEANING THAT IT DIRECTLY BENEFITS FROM THE CITY, AND OUR OPERATIONS. WE DO THEIR PAYROLL. WE DO THE ACCOUNTS PAYABLE, THE PROCUREMENT. WE HANDLE THE GRANTS AS WELL. WE ADMINISTER AND HANDLE RESOURCE ISSUES AS WELL. SO TO FACTOR THE CITY PRIMARILY HELPS RUN THE BUSINESS. FPRA IS A SPECIFIC ENTITY, AND IT HAS ITS OWN PLANS AND OPERATIONS AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE FIGURE OUT THE DYNAMICS BECAUSE I BELIEVE THERE'S AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, AND THE FPRA STAFF IS THERE AS WELL, BUT YET THERE'S AN FPRA UMBRELLA. THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEAR AS WELL THAT THAT DEFINITION IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF, BEING THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS FPRA WHICH IS A SEPARATE ENTITY. THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED I BELIEVE A FEW MONTHS AGO, JUST RECENTLY. I DON'T KNOW HOW WELL DEFINED THAT IS INCLUDING THE DELINEATION OF RESPONSIBILITY IN÷÷THOSE ROLES, BUT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, CERTAINLY I CAN DO THE JOB. THE BUSINESS OF RUNNING THE FPRA, CERTAINLY ON FINANCING STRATEGIES, MANAGEMENT, REAL ESTATE, MANAGING THE STAFF THAT'S GOING TO HELP DO THE WORK AS WELL AS DEALING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES, BRINGING IN LOCAL BUSINESSES, GIVING THEM THE -- COMMUNICATING THE MESSAGING STANDPOINT OF WHAT THE FPRA HAS TO OFFER, WHAT FORT PIERCE HAS TO OFFER. THAT'S CRITICAL FOR ME AS WELL.÷÷SO THE OUTREACH -- THE BUSINESS OUTREACH, BUT MORE SO HAVING THE TECHNICAL COMPETENCE TO RUN THE PROGRAM. YOU'RE 100% CORRECT. THIS COULD BE A FULL- TIME JOB IN SOME INSTANCES, BUT IF WE HAVE THE RIGHT SUPPORTING STAFF AND GROUP TO ASSIST IN RUNNING THE ORGANIZATION, I CAN DEFINITELY MANAGE THAT AND DO THAT, AND I WOULD RATHER BE IN THIS SEAT MANAGING AREAS THAT IMPACT ME THAN NOT MANAGING IT. I WOULD LIKE -- I WOULD HATE TO SEE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IN THAT SEAT AND I COME TO YOU AND THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS CONTRARY TO THAT, YET IN OUR PLAN, THERE'S AN AGENDA LAID OUT AND WE SHOULD BE FOLLOWING AN ACTION PLAN AND I'M TAKING AN APPROACH AND THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT IDEA WHICH HE OR SHE IS ENTITLED TO HAVE. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I DON'T LIKE TO OWN ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T IMPACT ME, BUT I LIKE TO OWN THIS PROCESS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO IMPACT ME. THIS ROLE, I SHOULD SAY.÷÷SO THAT'S MY -- IF I FIND DOWN THE ROAD THAT IT'S MORE THAN -- I BIT OFF MORE THAN I CAN CHEW, I'LL BE THE FIRST ONE TO SAY, WE NEED TO GET SOMEONE ELSE IN THIS SEAT TO DO THIS BECAUSE THE CITY'S GROWING TOO MUCH. WE'RE TOO MUCH INVOLVED IN OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY. WE NEED TO GIVE DIFFERENT ATTENTION TO THE ORGANIZATION, ÷÷BUT FROM WHERE I SIT TODAY, AND HOW THE ORGANIZATIONS ARE BEING RAN, AND HOW IT IMPACTS ME AND WHAT MY VISION IS BASED ON WHAT YOUR VISION IS IN STRATEGIC PLAN, I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO BE IN THIS ROLE FOR THAT PURPOSE ONLY.÷÷I'M DOING THIS CARTE BLANCHE. I DIDN'T ASK FOR MORE MONEY. DOWN THE ROAD, THAT WILL COME TO FRUITION. SOMEBODY WILL HAVE TO BE PAID TO DO THIS, PROBABLY PAID VERY WELL, BUT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT'S NOT A MONEY THING. IT'S A FUNCTIONALITY THING. THE POSITION AS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS SO CLOSELY IN LINE TO THE POSITION OF THIS CITY, AND THERE'S A DING OF THE COMMUNITY AND SERVICES STANDPOINT. THEY ARE, IN FACT, THEIR ROLES ARE SIMILAR TO THE ROLE OF CITY EMPLOYEES IN MANY WAYS, BUT THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONAL GOAL IN PERSPECTIVE. I HOPE I KIND OF ANSWERED THAT FOR YOU. >> QUESTIONS. [00:55:01] >> >> I I HAVE A QUESTION. I'M GOING TO SPECULATE THAT -- >> NO SPECULATION. >> HE SAID NOT TO DO THAT. >> I SPECULATE FOR HOURS UP HERE. AND A LOT OF IT'S NOT GOOD. >> WHAT IF -- >> WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, MR. CHESS, IS YOUR STATUS AS CITY MANAGER IS A VERY COMPLICATED -- YOU HAVE A LOT OF -- MASSIVE AMOUNT OF TASKS OP N YOUR DAILY LIST TO ACCOMPLISH. I WOULDN'T EVEN WANT TO GUESS TO÷÷WHAT YOUR WORKLOAD IS HOURLY PER÷÷WEEK. I KNOW IT'S NOT 40 HOURS PER WEEK. THIS IS ADDING AN ADDITIONAL BURDEN TO THAT, AND THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS, A, HAVE YOU GET UP TO SPEED AND BE BURNED OUT BY TOO MUCH RESPONSIBILITY BEING PUSHED ON YOU CONTINUOUSLY. YOU HAVE FIVE CHALLENGING OPINIONATED PEOPLE UP HERE THAT HAVE PRIORITIES THAT THEY WANT YOU TO UNDERTAKE, AND MY CONCERN IS JUST BURDENING YOU WITH TOO MUCH WORK, AND SHEDDING THE LOAD OR SHARING THE LOAD WITH OTHERS, I THINK, IS ALWAYS ADVENTAGEOUS. I DON'T DO IT IN MY BUSINESS BECAUSE I'M TOO OCD. I GET THAT. ÚI KIND OF GET SOME OF THAT FROM YOU AS WELL. SO MY CONCERN IS MORE FOR YOU THAN IT IS FOR MANAGEMENT OF THE FPRA BECAUSE THIS BODY IS GOING TO BE CERTAIN THAT THE ASSETS OF THE FPRA ARE PROPERLY MANAGED, AND YOU KNOW MY CONCERNS ON ALL THAT. WE'VE DISCUSSED IT SINCE YOU HAVE BEEN HERE. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? YOU'RE ADDING IN ANOTHER LAYER OF RESPONSIBILITY THAT YOU DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE. I GET THEY'RE VERY PARALLEL AND THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CROSSOVER, BUT THERE IS SOME INDEPENDENT ISSUES WITH THE FPRA.÷÷PERFECT EXAMPLE IS THE HIGHWAYMEN MUSEUM AND THE PROPERTY NEXT TO THAT. THAT'S A DEAL- MAKING PROCESS THAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE. THAT'S JUST ONE SNIPPET OF ALL THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THE FPRA. >> AND I APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN FOR MY WELL- BEING IN THAT REGARD. I'M USING YOUR SPECIFIC EXAMPLE. I HAD TO MEET WITH MS. MOORE WHO WAS IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. SHE'S A PROJECT MANAGER FOR THAT PROJECT. ALL THE FINANCIAL COSTS THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH THAT, CHANGE ORDERS, COMMUNICATING WITH THE BOARD ON THE ISSUE, SO THAT SHOWS THE ALIGNMENT RIGHT THERE BETWEEN THE FPRA. >> GREAT. >> AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, AND ANY AREA I MANAGE, IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY AS A LEADER TO MANAGE THE PROCESS. I CAN'T DO ALL THE WORK. SO IF I HAVE GOOD LEADERSHIP IN PLACE, WHETHER IT'S IN THE FPRA, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THE DEPARTMENT AREA, IF I HAVE -- AS AN EXAMPLE, IF I HAVE THE PROPER LEADERSHIP IN THOSE AREAS, I CAN MANAGE THE PROCESS. I CAN'T DO IT ALL, BUT TO YOUR EXAMPLE, THAT'S A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE OF HOW I'M INVOLVED IN FPRA BUSINESS. IF I WASN'T INVOLVED IN, THAT I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MANAGE THE IMPACT TO THE BUDGET. YOU TALK ABOUT THE FINANCES FROM INTERNAL CONTROL PERSPECTIVE, FROM A PERSPECTIVE OR REVIEW OF EXPENDITURES, APPROVAL EXPENDITURES, AUDITING OF THE BUDGET AS WELL, AND THE FINANCES. I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL THAT EYES ARE ON ALL FINANCES OF THE CITY, SPECIFICALLY THE FPRA, AND÷÷GIVEN THE FACT THE FINANCE DIRECTOR HANDLES THOSE TRANSACTIONS AND WE LOOK OVER THE PROCUREMENTS, THE BIDS, THE RFPS, THAT ENTIRE PROCESS WE DO FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, AND AS I SAID, YOU CAN PICK ANY EXAMPLE OUT OF THE FPRA AS ANY PROJECT OF THE FPRA. I GUARANTEE YOU HAVE CITY RESOURCES SOMEWHERE INVOLVED IN HELPING IN THE DECISION-MAKING. ALTHOUGH THE FPRA STAFF IS RUNNING THE PROJECT, AND THEY'RE THE LEAD ON THE PROJECT, AND SOMEHOW IT'S IMPACTING GRANTS. IT'S IMPACTING THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE,ENING ENGINEERING WHEN WE DEVELOP A SCOPE OF SERVICE TO BE DONE. THEY MAY BE INVOLVED, AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IF I HAVE THE PROPER MANAGEMENT IN PLACE, AND WHICH I BELIEVE WE DO. WITH MS. HARNAGE, I BELIEVE I CAN NOTWITHSTANDING PROCESS, MANAGE THAT PROCESS. >> FAIR ENOUGH. >> IT'S IMPORTANT THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE FPRA. THERE'S A STRAIGHT LINE OF COMMUNICATION, AND WHAT THE PLANS ARE, WHO WE'RE TALKING TO, POTENTIAL INVESTORS, THE GROWTH OF THE CITY FROM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AS WELL MORE SO. THAT TURNS THE GROWTH OF THE CITY, FROM EXPANSION TO INFRASTRUCTURE, AND HOW THAT CAN BE FUNDED THROUGH THE FPRA FOR PROJECTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BRING TO THE CITY THROUGH THE FPRA, AND TO BE ABLE TO HAVE FINE WITH IT AND [01:00:12] COMFORTABLE AND ONLY BECAUSE IF I WASN'T IN THE POSITION TO BE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, AND SOMEONE WAS AND NOT ABLE TO DO THOSE THINGS, IT WOULD HAVE A SEVERE IMPACT. I'M OPEN TO EITHER WAY YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO. I'M HERE BECAUSE MR. JOHNSON, WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, BUT I'M OPEN. I DON'T HAVE TO DO, THAT BUT I KNOW THAT IF I'M -- I WOULD LIKE TO DO IT BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT THAT IT HAS ON ME, BUT IF I'M ÷÷NOT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, I CAN WORK WITH ANYONE IN THAT ROLE, BUT THERE HAS TO BE STRAIGHT DIRECTION FROM THIS BOARD ON THE LINES OF COMMUNICATION, AND THE FPRA HAS TO BE ALIGNED WITH THE CITY AND ÷÷THE CITY HAS TO BE ALIGNED WITH FPRA FOR US TO WORK, YOU KNOW, FUNCTIONALLY INTO THE GOALS OF BOTH ENTITIES. >> THANK YOU. THAT'S A VERY EXTENSIVE ANSWER. >> YEAH. >> ONE POINT THAT YOU MADE THAT I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CONSENSUS ON, IS THAT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESSES AND ALL THAT. WE DO TOO. WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS A LOT BETTER THAN WE DO NOW. SO AS YOU'RE BECOMING EDUCATED BE EDUCATED IN THIS PROCESS. WE NEED TO DO THAT JOINTLY IN A FORM SUCH AS THIS TO GET HR IN HERE AND, OKAY. FINANCE GAVE US A REPORT A ÷÷COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. I THINK WE NEED TO DELVE INTO THAT IN MORE DETAIL, STAFFING, HOW ALL THAT'S PAID OUT AND RESPONSIBILITIES AND ET CETERA.÷÷THANK YOU FOR THE DETAILED ANSWER. >> AM I SENSING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE MORE INVOLVED -- THIS BODY TO BE MORE INVOLVED IN THE PLANNING -- THE BUDGET PLANNING? >> YES. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M ALSO SENSING TOO SINCE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FUNDS >> STAY THERE. >> WHAT HAPPENED? >> DON'T GO ANYWHERE. >> I KEPT LOOKING FOR YOU. I COULDN'T SEE YOU OUT THERE HIDING BEHIND MIRIAM, I THINK. MS. HARNAGE. >> MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE FPRA BOARD. IT'S AN HONOR TO BE EVEN CONSIDERED FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. IT'S BEEN A WILD RIDE THIS PAST YEAR, AND, YOU KNOW, I CAME BACK FROM MATERNITY LEAVE AND BECAME THE CRA ADMINISTRATOR AND THEN OUR CITY MANAGER IS NO LONGER WITH US AND WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE PROJECTS ROLLING AND THE REDEVELOPMENT ACTION PLAN IN PLACE. WE'RE ALL LEARNING AS WE GO, I WOULD SAY. I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO STEP INTO THIS, YOU KNOW, QUASI- SEAT WITHOUT A TITLE AND REALLY CARRY÷÷THE TORCH FOR THE FORT PIERCE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY AND MAKE SURE THINGS ARE RUNNING SMOOTHLY AND IT'S BEEN MY PLEASURE TO DO SO. SINCE MR. CHESS HAS COME ON BOARD, I THINK WE'RE WORKING REALLY WELL TOGETHER, AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR HIS LEADERSHIP AND HIS GUIDANCE, AND I THINK WE CAN CONTINUE THAT PATH. I DO AGREE THAT NOW THAT WE HAVE HAVE THIS -- THESE RESOURCES AND THE AMOUNT OF PROJECTS THAT WE ARE JUGGLING AND MANAGE ING EVERY DAY, THERE NEEDS TO BE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF REPORTING. I THINK THE COMMUNICATION WITH EACH BOARD MEMBER COULD BE IMPROVED ON FPRA- RELATED SPECIFIC PROJECTS. I KNOW THAT YOU ALL MEET WITH THE CITY MANAGER ON CITY COMMISSION ITEMS AND SO FORTH. MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY -- MAYBE THERE'S A DEPUTY DIRECTOR POSITION OR SOME TYPE OF WAY IF I'M IN THIS POSITION OR EVEN IN MY CURRENT ROLE, THAT I CAN, YOU KNOW, BE INVOLVED IN THESE CONVERSATIONS TO GET YOU UP TO ÷÷SPEED ON WHATEVER IT IS THAT -- THAT'S HAPPENING. JUST THROWING OUT IDEAS. I HAVE -- SINCE THIS CONVERSATION HAS COME UP AND I'VE JUST, YOU KNOW, BEEN OBSERVING OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS, I HAVE DONE RESEARCH ON OTHER COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCIES IN OTHER CITIES AND I HAVE FOUND THAT THE MAJOR MAJORITY HAVE BEEN -- MAJOR MAJORITY -- REALLY, SHYANNE? THE MAJORITY HAVE BEEN CITY MANAGERS. OUR TWO NEIGHBORS CRAS, I HAVE GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE ONE IN PORT ST. LUCIE. THERE'S JENNIFER DAVIS, BUT SHE REPORTS TO THE CITY MANAGER. IN MARTIN COUNTY, SHE REPORTS TO THE DEPUTY COUNTY DIRECTOR, BUT ÷÷SHE IS THE DIRECTOR. IT'S UNDERSTANDING THE CHANNELS AND ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE AND MY TEAM. I'VE ALSO SEEN THE GRANTS ADMINISTRATION. THAT'S BRAND- NEW AND WE'RE STILL, YOU KNOW, WORKING OUT THOSE AREAS AS WELL. SO THESE ARE ALL THINGS -- I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT DISCUSSION, REGARDLESS OF WHO IS AT THE TABLE OF JUST MAKING SURE WE ALL WANT THE BEST FOR THE CITY AND THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY AND WHAT ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE MAKES THE MOST SENSE. SO I'M HAPPY TO SERVE IN ANY CAPACITY, AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO SERVE ALONGSIDE MR. [01:05:05] CHESS AND HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER. WE JUST HAD A CONVERSATION TODAY, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING THE WORK FLOW, APPROVALS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM OR CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION. THAT WAS OFF THE CUFF. >> I LIKE THE IDEA OF MORE COMMUNICATION WITH YOU BECAUSE I THINK FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF YOUR ROLE, YOU ARE THE PRIMARY PERSON WHO DEALS WITH FPRA. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> IS THAT CORRECT? I MEAN, YOU MAY HAVE SOME CITY -- >> SURE. >> BECAUSE I KNOW YOU DEAL WITH ÷÷THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S CITY DUTY OR FPRA. THEY'RE KIND OF BOTH BLENDED. >> RIGHT. >> BUT I THINK WHEN WE -- WE DO MEET WITH THE CHARTER OFFICERS AND WHEN I MEET ONE-ON- ONE WITH MR. CHESS, WE DO TALK ABOUT FPRA, BUT PERHAPS IT MIGHT HELP ALL OF US IN SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS THAT YOU'RE A PART OF IT, SO THAT WE CAN BE BROUGHT UP TO SPEED ON THE FPRA, AND BE MORE AWARE OF WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO, IN TERMS WITH FUNDS, AND IT JUST -- IT JUST -- THE MORE INFORMATION WE HAVE THE BETTER WE CAN MAKE DECISIONS. >> MM-HMM. I AGREE. >> YES. >> IT KIND OF MAKES ME THINK OF -- BECAUSE THE REASON THE ÷÷FPRA HAS ITS OWN SEPARATE BOARD IS BECAUSE IT'S A SEPARATE TAXING DISTRICT. >> RIGHT. >> WHICH IS HOW THE OTHER DISTRICTS FUNCTION AT THE COUNTY WHERE THE BOARD ADJOURNS AND BECOMES THE EROSION CONTROL DISTRICT AND THEN THEY WHATEVER. THOSE INDIVIDUAL ENTITIES HAVE THEIR OWN DIRECTORS, BUT THEY REPORT TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. SO I THINK I'M COMFORTABLE WITH KEEPING MR. CHESS AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL IT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO -- I DON'T WANT TO LIMIT SHYANNE. AND I DON'T WANT HER TO FEEL HANDCUFED AND NOT BE ABLE SHE NEEDS TO MAKE TO KEEP FPRA WORKING AS EFFECTIVELY AS IT CAN BE BECAUSE THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT. LIKE, THE FPRA IS THERE TO -- IT'S KIND OF AN EMERGENCY FUNCTION BECAUSE THE CITY NEEDS TO BE REDEVELOPED AND THE FPRA ISN'T MEANT TO EXIST FOREVER. IT'S MEANT TO REDEVELOP AND THEN MOVE ON, OR IT EVOLVES INTO DIFFERENT AREAS OR WHATEVER. SO IT'S -- AS LONG AS THAT'S NOT BEING HELD UP AND IT'S NOT BEING WRAPPED INTO BUREAUCRACY OR BEING USED IN OTHER WAYS IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE USED. >> RIGHT. >> WHICH CAN BE WEIRD WHEN THE LINES ARE BLURRED BECAUSE YOU'RE CITY MANAGER AND YOU'RE DIRECTOR, AND IT'S KIND OF MOVING AROUND AND YOU'RE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO USE THIS MONEY FOR THIS BECAUSE THIS IS A CITY GOAL. THIS IS WHATEVER, BUT AS LONG AS THE FPRA IS BEING USED TO THE INTENT THAT IT IS MEANT TO BE USED, AND AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE, I THINK AS LONG AS THOSE RELATIONSHIPS ARE GOOD, AND SHYANNE CAN SET THE PRIORITIES BASED ON WHAT WE ARE -- WHAT OUR GOALS ARE, LIKE A REAL DIRECTOR AND MAKE IT WORK, BUT SHE CAN REPORT TO THE CITY MANAGER. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE MAKE THAT WORK. >> I THINK THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. I'M NOT SURE IF HER POSITION THEN EVOLVES INTO A DIRECTORSHIP POSITION LIKE OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY. ACTUALLY I THINK THAT HAS A LOT OF MERIT TO IT, AND I AGREE WITH YOUR ANALYSIS, IS THAT YOU'RE RUNNING A REAL ESTATE ÷÷REDEVELOPMENT COMPANY. >> RIGHT. >> I UNDERSTAND THE COMPLEXITIES OF THAT. AND THE DEMANDS FROM FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVES, ET CETERA. THE REPORTING COMPONENT OF THIS IS AN OUTSTANDING IDEA THAT BOTH OF YOU HAVE TOUCHED ON. HAVING DIRECT COMMUNICATION BETWEEN WHAT DO THEY REFER TO YOU NOW? THE ADMINISTRATOR? I'M GOING TO CALL IT DIRECTOR JUST FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES. BUT THEN REPORTING TO THETHE MANAGER AS WELL, BUT THAT ASPECT OF A STAFFPERSON WITH THE ABILITY TO REPORT DIRECTLY TO THIS BOARD -- THE BOARD MEMBERS, GIVES ME A LOT OF COMFORT. IT REALLY DOES. JAMES, I THINK THAT'S AN OUTSTANDING WAY TO PACKAGE IT. IT SOLVES ALL MY CONCERNS, CANDIDLY. BUT THE CITY MANAGER STILL ACTING AS OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OR IN CHARGE OF THE PROGRAM, I LIKE THAT SETUP A LOT. >> HE'S RIGHT. IT'S JUST LIKE THE COUNTY HAS THE DIFFERENT BOARDS. >> CORRECT. >> AND THEY HAVE SEPARATE BUDGETS AND SEPARATE TAXING. >> ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS REPORT TO MR. CHESS. >> THEY DON'T GET TIED UP IN ALL THE OTHER CRAP BECAUSE IF THAT WAS THE POINT, WE WOULD JUST RAISE THE TAXES SLIGHTLY TO COVER UP THE FPRA FUNDS THAT WE'RE COLLECTING AND JUST GET TO÷÷WASH INTO ALL THE OTHER CITY CRAP. IT HAS A VERY SPECIFIC GOAL. >> I AGREE WITH THAT, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW WE SET THAT UP TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. DOES THAT SEEM TO -- DOES THAT FROM A VISIONARY STANDPOINT, DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU GUYS? [01:10:04] >> WHAT DID YOU SAY? I'M SO SORRY. WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE -- I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE SAID. REALLY, WHAT ARE YOU PROPOSING? >> I THINK MY MAIN POINT WAS I JUST WANT IT TO -- I WANT THE FPRA DIRECTOR TO BE ABLE TO FUNCTION INDEPENDENTLY AND SET PROGRAM INITIATIVES BASED ON OUR -- OUR GOALS AND WHATEVER, BUT I GUESS HIERARCHLY CAN BE REPORTED TO THE CITY MANAGER BECAUSE THEY CAN BE THE ONE ENACTING GOALS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING ANYMORE. >> I WANT TO BE CLEAR. I MEAN -- THE ROLE NOW, YOU ÷÷CAN'T HAVE TWO CHIEFS, RIGHT?÷÷YOU HAVE TO MAKE A CHOICE. IF YOU LIKE I'M EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, IF I HAVE STAFF UNDER ME, THE STAFF SHOULD BE REPORTING TO ME AND THEY CAN -- YOU ALWAYS HAVE ACCESS TO STAFF. I MEAN, YOU CAN ALWAYS ASK QUESTIONS. YOU DO THAT NOW. I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CREATE TWO DIRECTORS. IF THERE'S AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR RUNNING THE PROGRAM AND WE HAVE A DIRECTOR -- WHAT IS YOUR OFFICIAL TITLE? >> I'M THE COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. >> IN WHAT DEPARTMENT? >> COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. >> RIGHT. >> SO IT'S NEW. >> SHE'S A DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND I WOULD BE THE FPRA DIRECTOR IN WHICH MS. HARNAGE IS -- RUNS THE FPRA WITH HER TEAM. >> CORRECT. >> SHE WOULD REPORT TO ME, AND AS ALL OTHER DIRECTORS DO, AND I MANAGE THAT PROCESS, BUT CERTAINLY IN TERMS OF REPORTING, IF YOU WANT A SPECIAL REPORTING RELATIONSHIP, I'M FINE WITH THAT, BUT I WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR IS INDEPENDENT OF ME. THAT'S A PROBLEM. >> I AGREE. YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD. THAT'S WHAT JAMES IS GETTING AT HERE. I BELIEVE. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT, TRUST ME. >> I THINK I AM, YEAH. >> SO YES. YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO RUN HER DEPARTMENT, BUT IT ULTIMATELY COMES DOWN TO REPORTING TO YOU. >> RIGHT. >> WE'RE DOING THAT. >> BUT WE ALSO WANT MORE FACETIME IN TERMS -- BECAUSE THIS IS A SPECIAL THING. >> I THINK MR. CHESS HAS TO WORK THROUGH THAT BECAUSE LET'S BE CLEAR. WE DO NOT MEET WITH DIRECTORS UNLESS WE GO THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER WHEN WE WANT TO MEET WITH THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS. >> THAT'S THE CITY COMMISSION. THIS IS DIFFERENT. >> I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS HERE AND WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD THIS RIGHT NOW. LET THEM WORK THIS OUT WITH HR BECAUSE THEY MAY NEED TO CHANGE SOME TITLES AROUND. >> I AGREE. >> I THINK THE VISION OF IT IS, IS THAT WE FROM AN INFORMED CONSENT POINT NEED TO CARVE OUT SOME TIME. MS. COX, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO IT, JUST TO HEAR FROM THE FPRA BECAUSE WHEN I DO IT RIGHT NOW, I JUST HEAR CITY STUFF. >> RIGHT. >> AND I DON'T HEAR THE PROJECTS AND GET REMINDED OF THAT. >> IF WE HAVE A REPORT ON IT, AND THAT'S IT. >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> WE HAVE A REPORT. YEAH. >> WHAT WE'RE SAYING -- >> WE'RE SAYING MORE FACETIME. >> WE WANT MORE FACETIME TO UNDERSTAND FPRA PROJECTS SO WE'RE UP TO SPEED AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO THAT WITH OUR CALENDAR RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK WE'RE CLOSE. >> YEAH, WE'RE CLOSE. I AGREE. >> I THINK YOU'RE HEARING WHAT WE'RE SAYING. >> GET WITH HR AND FIGURE IT OUT. THIS IS VERY FIXABLE. >> LET THEM GO TO MR HR AND COME BACK WITH SOMETHING. >> I'M THE ONE THAT PROBABLY COMPLAINS THE MOST ABOUT OUR PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES. >> RIGHT. >> DEALING WITH OUR ASSETS. >> RIGHT. >> REAL ESTATE ASSETS. >> RIGHT. >> AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE VERY FRANK DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT MOVING FORWARD, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE TEAM IS IN PLACE TO ADDRESS THIS. I WANT THAT INFORMATION DIRECTLY. I WANT A RAW INFORMATION, HERE'S THE ISSUE. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO FIX THIS? SO I -- I'M VERY HAPPY WITH THAT PROCESS. CURTIS, I AGREE WITH YOU. HAVE HR GIVE US ITS BLESSING, WHATEVER THOEF EY HAVE TO DO TO ÷÷FORMALIZE THIS, AND SARA'S INPUT ON THIS IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. ONCE EVERYBODY GIVES IT THEIR BLESSING, I'M PERFECTLY FINE WITH THIS, BUT THE PHYSICALITY OF THIS RELATIONSHIP, I THINK IS PRETTY SIMPLE. >> IT'S RIGHT THERE. ALL RIGHT. >> YEAH. WE HAVE OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR ZBLSH TH -- >> THE TEAM IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF US. >> I'M GOOD. MY CONCERNS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED. >> IT'S BEEN AN HOUR, BUT -- >> IT'S A GREAT DISCUSSION. >> ARE YOU GOOD? >> HAPPY. >> OH, JAMES IS HAPPY. >> ALL RIGHT. >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION REAL QUICK. >> YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? >> REAL QUICK BEFORE THEY CHANGE THEIR MINDS. I'M KIDDING, BUT EVERYBODY READY FOR THE MOTION? EVERYBODY HAPPY? ALL RIGHT. >> JUST DO IT. >> I MAKE A MOTION THAT FPRA RESOLUTION 25-11 BE APPROVED. >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> I'LL SECOND IT. >> CALL THE ROLL MRS. [01:15:02] >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. >> YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. >> YES, MA'AM. >> CHAIRWOMAN HUDSON. >> YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU, MS. HARNAGE. THANK YOU, MR. CHESS. [a. FPRA Programs & Activities Summary Report - May 2025] >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT. >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS AND YOUR CONCERNS. >> WE WANT TO GO ONTO THE -- >> NEXT WE HAVE STAFF COMMENTS AND THE FPRA PROGRAM AND ÷÷ACTIVITIES SUMMARY. >> YES. ARE YOU GOING TO PRESENT THAT PROGRAM? >> I JUST WANT TO PULL A FEW THINGS OUT, MADAM CHAIR. >> I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO DO THAT BECAUSE I LOOKED AT IT, ÷÷LIKE, LAST FRIDAY AND NOW I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT REFRESHED BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD STUFF IN THERE. >> WE HAVE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF÷÷MONTHS AND THERE'S A LOT AND I LEFT IT BACK THERE, BUT I'LL TRY TO DO IT FROM MEMORY. >> OKAY. >> FIRST OF ALL, YOU BROUGHT UP A GREAT POINT, COMMISSIONER GAINES ABOUT INVOLVING THE YOUTH AND THE TALENTED ART IS ARTISTS THAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE LAUNCHED A YOUTH BANNER ART SHOWCASE. IT'S LIKE AN ART CONTEST FOR THE STREET POLE BANNERS. KINDERGARTEN THROUGH 12TH GRADE. YOU CAN LIVE IN FORT PIERCE ATTEND A FORT PIERCE SCHOOL, AND YOU'RE ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE. WE HAVE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES LIKE NATURE AND WHAT MEETS FORT PIERCE. WE'VE DONE IT ON DELAWARE AVENUE BEFORE, IN THE PEACOCK ARTS DISTRICT. THAT WAS WITH CAST AND NOW WE'RE OPENING IT UP AND YOU HAVE THE QR CODE IN YOUR REPORT. I HOPE YOU CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOUR COMMUNITY. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD TO GET THOSE TO THE ART CLASSES AND ANYONE WHO MAY BE INTERESTED. THAT'S A COOL PROGRAM. IT'S BENEFICIAL. WE GET THE KIDS INVOLVED AND WE CAN GET OUR BANNERS REPLACED OR JUST PUT UP BECAUSE YOU SEE WHEN YOU DRIVE DOWNTOWN OR DRIVE ANYWHERE, AND YOU SEE THE BANNER ARMS, BUT THEN NO BANNER, SO LINCOLN PARK, AND EVEN ON THE BEACH THERE'S NOT REALLY MANY BANNERS OVER THERE. WE'LL GET ALL OF THOSE REFRESHED. WE'LL ALSO DO SOME GRAPHIC ARTWORK AS WELL WITH A GRAPHIC DESIGNER FOR THOSE IN BETWEEN. WE WON'T HAVE KIDS ART EVERYWHERE, BUT THAT'S ONE ÷÷THING. IT'S OUR WAYFINDING SIGN. IT'S NOT THE ENTIRE PROJECT WITH THE GATEWAYS AS WELL, BUT THE WAYFINDING WHICH IS THE DIRECTIONAL SIGNS. YOU KNOW THE ONES THAT ARE GREEN AND YELLOW. WE HAVE THE INSTALLATION DATE TO BEGIN MAY 19TH. THEY'LL TAKE THE CONTRACTOR WE SELECTED. THEY'LL TAKE TEN SIGNS PER WEEK AND PUBLIC WORKS WILL REMOVE THE ONES THAT ARE THERE, AND INSTALL THE NEW ONES. WE'LL DO A BIG SOCIAL MEDIA SPLASH ON THAT. I'M SURE OUR COMMUNITY WILL BE HAPPY. IT'S GOING TO TAKE A FEW MONTHS TO GET THEM ALL DONE. THERE'S 58 OR 59 TOTAL. THOSE ARE TWO MAJOR PROJECTS. THE MARINA PARK FRIDAY FEST ENGAGEMENT WENT WELL. WE DID THE FARMER'S MARKET. TRYING TO GET THAT OUT THERE. SHARING IT ON MOM GROUPS AND HIGH SCHOOLS AND ANYWHERE WE CAN GET, JUST INPUT ON THE COMMUNITIES PARK. IT'S EVERYONE'S MARINA PARK. THOSE ARE HIGHLIGHTS THERE. AM I MISSING ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK THOSE ARE BIG ONES. FREEBIE COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE HOURS. THERE'S A REPORT IN THERE ABOUT HOW THEY KIND OF VVY UP THE DRIVERS VERSUS THE HOURS OF OPERATION. SO THAT'S SOME NEW INFORMATION IN THAT REPORT FOR YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON WAS AT THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE MEETING WITH ME LAST MONTH, AND WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN DETAIL AND THE LINCOLN PARK DETAIL AND SOUTH BEACH DETAIL. WE'RE MAKING SURE OUR COMMUNITY IS CALLING IN MY CALLS FOR SERVICE OF THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS IF THEY'RE HAVING AN ISSUE. CALL 911 TO REPORT IT BECAUSE ALL OF OUR DETAILS THAT WE DO IN THE FPRA ARE DATA-DRIVEN. SO IF THERE'S NOT A NEED TO EXTEND IT OR IF WE DON'T SEE THAT NEED TO CHANGE THE HOURS OR WHATEVER, WE WON'T DO THAT. WE'LL DRIVE THAT HOME RIGHT NOW. ANYTHING ELSE, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION IN THERE. I LIKE THE INFORMATION PROVIDED AS A RESULT OF THE FARMER'S MARKET. ONE OF THE MAIN POINTS WAS KEEP THIS FOR THE RMER'S MARKET. WE LOVE THE FARMER'S MARKET. >> SO MS. HARNAGE, THANK YOU FOR THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT, RIGHT? WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DRIVING WITH DATA. THEY HAD A NUMBER OF CONCERNS AT THAT DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE AND MS. HARNAGE AND I TALKED ABOUT IT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE UPCOMING CONCERNS FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE. SHE WILL HANDLE THAT, BUT OUR SECURITY DETAILS, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT'S LINING UP WITH WHAT THEIR PERCEPTION OF CHALLENGES ARE. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, SOME OF THE CHALLENGES NOW PROBABLY MORE IN THE DAYTIME FROM PANHANDLERS AND THEIR CUSTOMERS BEING ACCOSTED, RIGHT? WE MAY HAVE TO THINK A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY ON THAT, AND THE OTHER THING IS I THINK LAST TIME I HAD A PERSPECTIVE, I WANTED TO HEAR FROM FREEBIE. I TOOK IT FOR THE FIRST TIME A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME AND IT WAS A GREAT RIDE, BUT IN MY GREAT INTERACTION WITH THE [01:20:05] DRIVER, THEY WERE GREAT AMBASSADORS OF THE CITY. LOVE IT. THEY KNOW A LOT, TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS. ONE OF THE DRIVERS MENTIONED TO ME THAT THEY GET ASKED A LOT FOR RESOURCES, AND IF THERE WAS SOME÷÷TYPE OF NUMBER OR CODE OR SOMETHING ON THE BACK OF THEIR CAR THAT SHE COULD A, HEY. IF YOU NEED HELP, SCAN THIS, AND THIS IS A LIST OF ALL OF THE RESOURCES THAT YOU MAY NEED OR WHATEVER, RIGHT? THAT WE PASS OUT TO PEOPLE, IT MAY JUST BE ONE OTHER INTERFACE ÷÷THAT WOULD HELP BECAUSE THIS LADY WAS REALLY DEDICATED TO HER JOB, AND HELPED A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY CONNECT TO PROGRAMS THAT SHE KNEW ABOUT, AND I'M SURE SHE PROBABLY MISSED SOME. BETWEEN ALL OF THE RESOURCES OUT HERE, I THINK IF WE CAN KIND OF GET THAT PERSON THAT GENERAL NUMBER, I THINK IT'S 211 -- >> 211. >> YEAH. WHATEVER THAT IS -- >> OKAY. >> I THINK THAT WOULD HELP IF WE HAD A DECAL IN THOSE CARS THAT THEY COULD SCAN ON THEIR PHONES BECAUSE THEY USE THEIR PHONES TO GET IN THERE ANYWAY, RIGHT? >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> WE KNOW THEY HAVE A SMARTPHONE. THAT'S IT. >> OKAY. WILL DO. >> ON THE TOPIC OF FREEBIE, I DO KNOW THAT THE CONCERNS I RAISED ÷÷HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED. IT'S REPORTED TO ME DIRECTLY FROM THE DRIVERS. >> GOOD. THANK YOU. >> WHOEVER PUT THE HAMMER DOWN, I'M NOT SURE WHO IT WAS ON YOUR TEAM. WAS IT YOU? >> PROJECT MANAGER SARA. >> SARA, GOOD JOB. KEEP CRACKING THAT WHIP ON THAT. THOSE ISSUES ARE RESOLVED TO THE SATISFACTION OF ALL PARTIES, I BELIEVE. >> GREAT. HAPPY TO HEAR IT. THANK YOU. >> ANYTHING ELSE? YES, SIR. >> WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURES ON JCPENNEY'S PARKING LOT? >> I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A DATE IN THAT REPORT. DID YOU HAVE ONE? >> NOT A DATE, BUT IT'S -- >> THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING TOO. IT'S GOING TO -- IT WAS THE LAST PIECE, AND WE CAN'T WAIT BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE THE, LIKE, CROWNED JEWEL OF THAT PROJECT, AND YEAH.÷÷WE NEED TO GET THAT DONE. NEXT MONTH WE'LL HAVE A REPORT FOR YOU HOPEFULLY. >> I HEAR THEY WERE ON ORDER. THAT WAS THE LAST UPDATE I HEARD. >> SAME. SELENA'S BEEN ON THAT. THAT'S HER PROJECT. SHE'S WORKING WELL, AND THAT'S ÷÷ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE OF SINNER YNERGY WITH CITY, STAFF, AND FPRA. IT'S ANOTHER POINT OF FPRA IS NOT GOING TO GO IN AND MAINTAIN SOMETHING THAT WAS THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY. SO IF WE WERE GOING TO JUST RESURFACE THAT PARKING LOT, THAT WOULDN'T BE AN APPROVED EXPENSE. SINCE WE'RE DOING ABOVE AND BEYOND, WE DID SOME LANDSCAPING, THAT DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE, AND THINGS THAT ELIMINATED SLUM AND BLIGHT, WE MADE THAT AN APPROVED FPRA PROJECT. I WANTED TO CALL THAT OUT OF HOW WE ARE NAVIGATING THESE DIFFERENT CITY- FPRA PROJECTS. I'LL GET YOU AN UPDATE ON THAT. >> I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION -- TWO QUESTIONS. THE HIGHWAYMAN MUSEUM, THAT FALLS UNDER THE FPRA, RIGHT? >> YES. >> SO I'M NOT SEEING ANY PROGRESS. DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE, WHATEVER. WHAT IS GOING ON THERE IF YOU CAN GIVE A HIGHLIGHT, AND THEN THE OTHER PART WAS THE HOUSE BEHIND LINCOLN PARK. I WAS THERE MOTHER'S DAY, SOMEONE CALLED ME AND WANTED ME TO SEE STUFF. IS THAT UNDER FPRA? IS THAT OURS AT ALL? >> NO. I RECALL THERE BEING COLLABORATION AT SOME POINT WHEN LIBBY WOODRUFF WAS IN THE DEPARTMENT. I WONDER IF OUR FUNDS CONTRIBUTED. I BELIEVE THAT'S MANAGED BY THE COUNTY, BUT I COULD BE MISSPEAKING. >> WHICH ONE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THE ONE BEHIND THE HIGH SCHOOL? >> YES. BEHIND LINCOLN PARK. RIGHT THERE. >> I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW THAT. >> I'M GOING TO DO SOME RESEARCH. IM GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. >> PLEASE DO. >> AS FOR THE HIGHWAYMAN MUSEUM, THE FPRA IS FUNDING IT, BUT THAT'S BEING MANAGED BY THE CITY÷÷MANAGER'S OFFICE. AUDREY IS THE MANAGER, AND WE CAN GET YOU ANOTHER UPDATE. >> THAT HURSTON HOUSE IS IN HORRIBLE DISREPAIR. IT'S A DUST TRACK TRAIL STOP, AND THERE'S THE BOARD ON THE FACE HAS GOT A HOLE IN IT. THERE'S DAMAGE THERE. THE CURTAINS -- >> IS IT OWNED BY THE COUNTY? >> I DON'T KNOW.÷÷I WANT TO BRING IT TO OUR ATTENTION. >> I'LL -- >> IF SOMEBODY CAN HELP ME OUT, WE NEED TO JUST -- I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE CITY SEAL BEING ON THIS PLACARD, AND THE COUNTY SEAL BEING ON IT AND IT'S IN BAD DISREPAIR, AND IF WE'RE NOT CAREFUL, WE'RE GOING TO INVITE SOME OTHER - -ELEMENTS. >> YEP. >> OKAY. >> WE SHOULD TAKE LOOK AT ACQUIRING THAT. >> I JUST KNOW WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING. WE OWN IT OR THE COUNTY OWNS IT. >> ACQUIRE IT. >> LOOK. FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF A HISTORICAL STRUCTURE IN THE CITY, THAT'S KIND OF BASELINE STUFF. THE FPRA SHOULD OWN THAT PROPERTY. >> BUT WE HAVE THE OLD WELFARE HOUSE WHERE SHE DIED. WE DON'T HAVE IT, BUT THAT [01:25:03] IS NOW BEING MAINTAINED BY A COMMITTEE AND EVERYTHING. SO I THINK THE EFFORT GOT CONCENTRATED ON THAT, AND THIS OTHER PLACE PROBABLY GOT JUST -- >> WHY DON'T E TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IS THE OWNERSHIP OF IT? IS IT THE COUNTY? IF THE COUNTY OWNS IT THEY MAY WANT TO GIVE IT TO US TO GET OUT FROM THE RESPONSIBILITY OF MAINTAINING IT. I THINK IT'S WORTH INVESTIGATING÷÷IT. >> I'M GOING TO SAY THIS, AND SAY THIS ONE LAST TIME. THE FESTIVAL IS AROUND THE COUNTRY. NO ONE HAS THE GRADES. NO ONE HAS THE HOUSE, AND NO ONE HAS THE OTHER HOUSE WHERE SHE DIED. WE HAVE -- >> I AGREE. >> WE HAVE IT ALL. SO WE CAN FIND A WAY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. >> I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE THE LAST TIME YOU SAY THAT. JUST SO YOU KNOW. >> WE ALREADY TALK ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES. THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE I'M GOING TO SAY THIS. WHEN THIS MUSEUM OPENS UP, THEY ALREADY KNOW -- WHEN THIS MUSEUM OPENS UP, THEY'RE NOT -- PEOPLE ARE NOT JUST GOING TO WANT TO SEE THE HIGHWAY MUSEUM. THEY'RE GOING TO KNOW THERE IS A DUSTY TRAIL HERE FOR THIS, AND THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO SEE IT, AND THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS WHAT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON JUST SAID, TO HAVE SOMEBODY GET ON THAT TRAIL AND GO TO THIS HOUSE AND SEE THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE SYMBOL ON THERE, AND THE HOUSE IS FALLING APART.÷÷THAT'S WHAT WE DON'T NEED. >> YES. >> YEP. >> IS THERE ANY UPDATE ON THE ACQUISITION OR THE APPRAISAL PROCESS FOR THE PROPERTY NEXT TO÷÷THE HIGHWAYMAN USEUM? >> THE APPRAISAL HAS BEEN ORDERED. I SPOKE TO THEM. HE OR SHE WAS ACCESSING THE INTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY TODAY. THE DEADLINE, I BELIEVE, IS JUNE 95. 5TH. IT'S THE FIRST WEEK OF JUNE SHE OR HE HAS TO HAVE THE APPRAISAL DONE. THE PLAN RIGHT NOW WOULD BE TO FUNNEL THAT INFORMATION THROUGH THE FPRA DIRECTOR WHO CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU OR THAT WAS OUR CURRENT -- OUR PLAN BEFORE THIS CONVERSATION WE HAD TODAY, AND THEN GET YOUR FEELING AND YOUR TAKE AND WE CAN NEGOTIATE THAT, BUT I HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER AS WELL AND HE'S ENGAGED AND UNDERSTANDS WHAT WE'RE DOING. >> PERFECT. >> I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THAT DOCUMENT. >> YES, SIR. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF MS. HARNAGE? THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE IT. [10. BOARD COMMENTS] OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ONTO COMMENTS. >> BOARD COMMENTS. >> ANY BOARD COMMENTS? >> I'M TALKING A LOT, BUT I GOT A LOT TO SAY. I WANT TO ALERT THE COMMISSION -- OR THE BOARD BECAUSE I DON'T GET A CHANCE TO TALK TO YOU. I HAD A VERY INTERESTING CONVERSATION WITH A GROUP PROJECT THAT I WAS TALKING WITH FOR SOME TIME. I'M GOING TO BE MEETING WITH STAFF TOMORROW, AND SOMEHOW I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I HAND THIS OFF TO STAFF. I DO WANT TO INVITE THEM INTO OUR NEXT FPRA MEETING. IT'S A VERY UNIQUE PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO TAKE A STAB AT BEAUTIFYING OUR CITY, BUT TAKE A LOOK AROUND THE PEACOCK ARTS DISTRICT, AND BLENDING IT WITH INPUT -- >> THEY'RE THERE. >> ABSOLUTELY. AND THEY'VE ALREADY MADE A DIFFERENCE THERE, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT IMPACT ON THE ENTIRE FPRA AND A VOID WE CAN'T FILL RIGHT NOW, BUT THROUGH THEIR ENTREPRENEUR PROGRAM AND THE YOUNG PEOPLE THERE, WE'VE KIND OF COME UP WITH SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE THIS FPRA BOARD TO HEAR BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO DIRECTLY IMPACT BLIGHT, CLEANLINESS, AND GIVE A PERCEPTION THAT REALLY MAKES OUR CITY CONNECT FROM LINCOLN PARK RIGHT INTO DOWNTOWN, DOWNTOWN THERE, SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT UP FRONT, AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL HEAR IT FROM THEM, BUT I THINK IT'S A PROJECT THAT -- AND JUST CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW DO WE WORK TOGETHER IN OUR COMMUNITY TO REALLY BEAUTIFY IT AND REALLY GIVE A NICE POP? I THINK WE MAY HAVE SOMETHING THAT WILL COME UNDER STRONG K FOR THIS BOARD TO EVALUATE. PARTICULARLY IN THE FPRA DISTRICT. THAT'S THE PALETTE PROGRAM. I WANT TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU. I'M EXCITED. I'M EXCITED FOR THE YOUNG PEOPLE AND THE OPPORTUNITY IT'S GOING TO GIVE, AND I THINK THE IMPACT IT'S GOING TO HAVE ON OUR COMMUNITY. YEAH. >> ANYBODY ELSE? ANYTHING ELSE? >> CAN'T BE ENOUGH COMMENTS TONIGHT. I'M GOOD. >> SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, MR. SHAY JOHNSON FOR SERVING AND SERVING WELL, AND BEING WILLING TO SERVE AND FOR EVERYTHING ELSE THAT YOU DO FOR THIS CITY AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. >> YES, MA'AM. >> ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO SAY? SHALL WE ADJOURN? >> YES, MA'AM. >> WE'LL BE LEAVING THE CHAMBERS, * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.