[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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          >> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER, IT IS MAY 19TH, 2025. PLEASE STAND FOR THE OPENING PRAYER BY DEVOSHAY JOHNSON , AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. 
          >> FATHER, GOD, WE COME BEFORE YOU WITH GRIEF IN OUR HEARTS ACKNOWLEDGING THAT YOU'RE WATCHING ALL OVER CITIES AND THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE BEFORE YOU , WITH A RICH HISTORY AND FUTURE THAT ONLY YOU CAN SEE. LORD, THERE IS SO MUCH HAPPENING IN OUR CITY, WITH OUR DEVELOPMENTS, SHIFTING LEADERSHIP, AND CHALLENGES BOTH SEEN AND UNSEEN, WE PAUSE TO SEEK YOUR WISDOM, DIRECTION, GUIDANCE, AND YOUR PEACE. LEND TO OUR OWN UNDERSTANDING, LET US ACKNOWLEDGE YOU AND AS YOU STATED IN YOUR WORD, THOSE WHO DO SO, YOU WILL DEFINITELY DIRECT THEIR PATH, WITH JUSTICE, AND LONG-TERM PASSION. MANY NEIGHBORHOODS OF BEEN AFFECTED BY CHANGE. FOR THOSE IN YOUR SERVITUDE, PROVIDE COMFORT, AND THOSE WHO FILL THE SPACE, PROVIDE PROVISION AND PROTECTION. PEOPLE OVER PROFIT AND UNITY OVER DIVISION. LET THE CHURCHES IN FORT PIERCE ARISE AS BEACONS OF HOPE. ACTIVE IN OUR COMMUNITIES, COMMITTED IN PRAYER AND FULL OF LOVE. LET REVIVAL SWEEP THROUGH OUR CITY. GIVE US THE COURAGE TO EMBRACE WHAT YOU'RE BUILDING AND HUMANITY TO RELEASE WOULD NO LONGER SERVE YOUR PURPOSE. MAY YOUR WILL BE DONE AND MADE FORT PIERCE BECOME A CITY NOT KNOWN JUST FOR DEVELOPMENT BUT RIGHTEOUSNESS, JUSTICE, AND PEACE. WE ASK ALL OF THIS, IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST, AMEN. 
          >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          >> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >> 
          [5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
          >> FIRST ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE MAY 5TH, 2025 
          REGULAR MEETING. >> MOVED TO APPROVAL. 
          >> MOVED AND SECONDED. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. 
          >> 
          [a.  National Public Works Week]
WORKS WEEK PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS FOCUS ON INFRASTRUCTURE, FACILITIES AND THOSE THAT ARE OF VITAL IMPORTANCE TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE AND WELL-BEING OF THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. THESE INFRASTRUCTURE FACILITIES AND SERVICES COULD NOT BE PROVIDED WITHOUT THE DEDICATED EFFORTS OF PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS WERE ENGINEERS, MANAGERS AND EMPLOYEES AT ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT. WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR REBUILDING, IMPROVING AND PROTECTING OUR NATION'S TRANSPORTATION, WATER SUPPLY, WATER TREATMENT AND SOLID WASTE TREATMENTS AND OTHER FACILITIES NEEDED BY HER CITIZENS. FOR THE CIVIC LEADERS AND CHILDREN OF FORT PIERCE TO MAINTAIN AND UNDERGOING INTEREST IN PUBLIC WORKS AND PUBLIC WORKS PROGRAMS IN THEIR COMMUNITIES. I, LINDA HUDSON, MAYOR OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA, PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF MAY 18TH TO BE NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK. ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN REPRESENTATIVE OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION IN ACTIVITIES, EVENTS, AND CEREMONIES DESIGNED TO PAY TRIBUTE TO PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS, ENGINEERS, AND EMPLOYEES AND RECOMMENDS THE SUBSTANTIAL CONTRIBUTIONS THEY MAKE TO PROTECTING HEALTH AND SAFETY AND ADVANCING THE QUALITY 
          OF LIFE FOR ALL. >> WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW 
          WORDS? >> MATTER MAYOR, CITY COMMISSION, IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE. WITH MY TEAM, WE HAVE ALL FIVE DIVISIONS. WE ARE REPRESENTED. OVER 100 EMPLOYEES. 
          THIS PAST WEEK KICKED OFF ON SUNDAY AND RUNS THROUGH SATURDAY FOR PUBLIC WORKS WEEK. WE HAD OUR COMMUNITY DAY WHERE THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM WAS OUTDOING EQUIPMENT DEMOS, FACE PAINTING, AND A GIVEAWAY. IT WAS A GREAT DAY WITH ROTARY PARK. IN PUBLIC 
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WORKS, WE SHARE THIS WITH ENGINEERING AS WELL AS UTILITIES. WE ARE REALLY APPRECIATIVE, WE ARE ALWAYS ON CALL, WHEREVER YOU NEED US. THIS IS PUBLIC SERVICE AT ITS FINEST. 
          WE ARE APPRECIATIVE TO BE HERE AND THANK YOU FOR THE RECLAMATION AND PROCLAMATION YOUR 
          >> WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU DO FOR OUR CITY. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> NEXT UP IS MENTAL HEALTH 
          [b.  Mental Health Awareness Month]
AWARENESS MONTH PROCLAMATION. THERE IS A PROVING CONNECTION BETWEEN GOOD MENTAL HEALTH AND PERSONAL HEALTH. ONLY ONE OUT OF TWO PEOPLE WITH A SERIOUS FORM OF MENTAL ILLNESS SEEK TREATMENT. A PERSON SURROUNDINGS CAN AFFECT HOW THEIR NEEDS ARE MET. WHICH AFFECTS THEIR MENTAL HEALTH. PEOPLE WITH MENTAL ILLNESSES CAN RECOVER WHEN THEY RECEIVE THE NECESSARY SERVICES WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITIES, RESEARCH SHOWS THAT PERSONAL CONTACT WITH SOMEONE WHO HAS MENTAL ILLNESS IS THE WAY TO ELIMINATE STIGMA AND FEARS OF DETERMINATION. A TEAM OF THERAPISTS WHO PROVIDE OUTPATIENT MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELING FOR CHILDREN AND ADULTS. FOR INTERVENTIONS INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING MENTAL CONDITIONS CAN LEAD PRODUCTIVE LIVES MAKING CONTRIBUTIONS TO THEIR COMMUNITIES. EACH HEALTHCARE PROVIDER AND ORGANIZATION AND CITIZEN SHARES THE BURDEN OF MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS AND HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO PROMOTE MENTAL WELLNESS AND SUPPORT PREVENTION EFFORTS. HELPING PEOPLE SUCCEED HAS BEEN PROVIDING SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITIES FOR SIX DECADES. THROUGH THE DIVER DIVERSIFIED PROGRAM, HUNDREDS OF THE MOST VULNERABLE LOCAL CHILDREN, FAMILIES, AND RESULTS, HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TRANSFORM THEIR LIVES THROUGH EDUCATION, TRAINING AND EMPLOYMENT. I, LINDA HUDSON, DO PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MAY AS MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH. 
          AND ENCOURAGE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE INSTITUTIONS, BUSINESSES AND SCHOOLS, TO RENEW THE UNDERSTANDING OF MENTAL ILLNESS, REDUCING STIGMA AND PROMOTING ACCESSIBLE AND APPROPRIATE SERVICES FOR ALL INDIVIDUALS WITH MENTAL ILLNESSES. 
          >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? 
          >> SHE SAID, ALMOST ALL OF IT, WE HAVE BEEN PROVIDING MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES TO ALL OF THE COUNTIES, ST. LUCIE, ST. MARTIN, -- FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> NEXT IS ADDITIONS AND 
          [8. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
DELETIONS OF THE AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. THE STAFF HAS REQUESTED THAT ITEM 11 C. BE BROUGHT BACK AT A LATER 
          DATE. >> OKAY, ARE THERE ANY OTHER CHANGES, ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION 
          WITHOUT CHANGE. >> MOVE OF APPROVAL OF THE 
          AGENDA WITH ITEM OF 11 C. >> CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. 
          >> 
          [a.  Fort Pierce Main Street Report for 1st and 2nd Quarters of FY2025]
UP FOR THE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE FORT PIERCE MAIN STREET REPORT OF THE FIRST AND SECOND 
          QUARTERS. >> DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? 
          >> NO MA'AM. >> YOU ARE STARTING THE SHOW? 
          >> YES, MA'AM. >> MISS MOORE, I SHOULD SAY. 
          >> GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS. WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT FIRST AND SECOND QUARTER REPORTS HIGHLIGHTING THE ONGOING IMPACT AND PROGRESS OF THEIR PROGRAMS. LAST FISCAL YEAR THE CITY WAS INFORMED THAT FUNDING FOR MAINSTREAM PROGRAMS WAS NO LONGER AN ALLOWABLE EXPENSE UNDER THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT. THE CITY TRANSITION SUPPORTING MAIN STREETS TO THE GENERAL FUND, AS A RESULT, MAIN STREET, BOTH MAIN STREETS WILL NOW BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PRESENTING THEIR QUARTERLY REPORTS TO THE COMMISSION. WE HAVE -- HERE TO PRESENT THE QUARTERLY REPORTS FOR MAIN STREET, FORT PIERCE. 
          >> GOOD EVENING. >> MS. SIZEMOORE, WELCOME. THANK 
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YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND WHAT WE DO AT MAIN STREET. WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO COME OF QUARTERLY TO SHARE WHAT WE DO. IT IS MY PERSONAL OPINION THAT THE COMMUNITY IS NOT AWARE OF EVERYTHING THAT WE DO. WE TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY OF THAT RIGHT NOW. WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS MOVING FORWARD. I AM DONNA SIZEMOORE. I AM HERE WITH DORIS AND MICHELLE. I WANTED TO START TONIGHT, JUST TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT. PROBABLY ANNOUNCING THAT MAIN STREET FORT PIERCE HAS RECEIVED REACCREDITATION FROM MAIN STREET AMERICA FOR 2025 FOR THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR 2024. THIS IS A TESTAMENT TO OUR DEDICATION TO PROMOTING AND ENHANCING THE HEART OF HISTORIC DOWNTOWN. THIS MILESTONE RECOGNIZES OUR COMMITMENT TO FOSTERING A VIBRANT COMMUNITY, SUPPORTING LOCAL BUSINESSES, AND CELEBRATING THE RICH HERITAGE THAT MAKES FORT PIERCE SO VERY SPECIAL. WITH THIS ACCREDITATION, WE REAFFIRM OUR MISSION TO BRING EXCITING EVENTS, INITIATIVES AND LASTING IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR BELOVED DOWNTOWN. WE COULD NOT ACHIEVE ANY OF THIS WITHOUT THE UNWAVERING SUPPORT OF THE COMMUNITY, OUR MEMBERS, OUR VOLUNTEERS, OUR PARTNERS, AND OUR SPONSORS. THE SUCCESS BELONGS TO ALL OF US. WE THINK EVERYONE. WE KNOW IT HAS BEEN A LONG DAY FOR YOU GUYS. WE ARE JUST BEGINNING THE NIGHT. WE WILL MOVE THROUGH OUR PRESENTATION AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. WE WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS ALONG THE WAY. BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I ASKED DORIS TO SHARE SOME HISTORY. I WILL SHARE SOME HISTORY -- I THINK THERE IS A SLIDE BEFORE THAT. MAYBE. 
          THERE WE GO. MAIN STREET FORT PIERCE BECAME A STATE ACCREDITED MAIN STREET IN 1988. WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 37 YEARS. MAIN STREET AMERICA, LET ME START BY SAYING THERE ARE 50 PROGRAMS, APPROXIMATELY, IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. OVER 2000 ACROSS THE UNITED STATES. MAIN STREET AMERICA IS A GRASSROOTS POWERFUL MOVEMENT, THAT HELPED US TO REVITALIZE COUNTLESS COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, DEMONSTRATING THE POTENTIAL OF COMMUNITY DRIVEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND PRESERVATION. WE ARE GUIDED BY PRINCIPLES OF MAIN STREET AMERICA. VITALITY, DESIGN, ORGANIZATION AND PROMOTION. YOU CAN SEE THE WHEEL IN THE PRESENTATION IS AN ONGOING WHEEL. IT IS CONTINUOUS AND SIMULTANEOUS. IF THE WHEEL STOPS, WE STOP GROWING. WE FOLLOW THE STANDARDS AND THAT IS PART OF THE ACCREDIATION THAT WE JUST RECEIVED. AGAIN, WE WILL SAY THIS ALL NIGHT LONG, WE CANNOT DO WHAT WE DO WITHOUT MINDY COLLABORATION AND SUPPORT. 
          JUST BRIEFLY, TO GIVE YOU OUR MISSION. TO PRESERVE AND PROMOTE AND BUILD ON HISTORIC AND NATURAL TREASURES OF THE DOWNTOWN WATERFRONT COMMUNITY. THE VISION IS NOT APPEAR. THE VISION IS DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE, THE HEART OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY WILL HAVE AN INVITING ATMOSPHERE HIGHLIGHTED BY HISTORICAL ARCHITECTURE, AND ENHANCING THE CIVIC CULTURE AND ECONOMIC VIABILITY OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, RETAIL, SERVICE, ACADEMIC, GOVERNMENT AND INDUSTRY. AND I WANT TO THANK OUR VOLUNTEERS THAT CAME HERE TONIGHT FOR ATTENDING WITH US. 
          THANK YOU, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN THIS OVER NOW TO DORIS TILLMAN, TO PROVIDE SOME HISTORY ON MAIN STREET. 
          >> MS. TILLMAN. >> LET ME DO THE OLDER STUFF, I 
          HAVE OLDER STUFF. >> I CAN RELATE. 
          >> MAIN STREET FORT PIERCE LAUNCHED FRIDAY FAST. IT IS STILL GOING, WE HAVE SOME CHANGES, THE WORLD IS CHANGING, WE HAVE TO CHANGE WITH IT. WE HAVE SOME PLANS WITH NEW IDEAS FOR THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVE THE MOST, THE CITY GOT A GRANT AND YOU ALL WERE UNABLE TO KEEP IT. WE SAID, IF WE MANAGE IT FOR YOU, IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? AND YOU ALL ALLOW THAT. WE MANAGED IT AND RAISED AN ADDITIONAL $150,000 AND BUILT THE CENTER THAT DRAWS ABOUT 50,000 PEOPLE A YEAR TO VISIT IT. AT THE TIME IT WAS NEEDED, WAS WHEN PEOPLE WERE SQUIRTING MANATEES WITH HOSES AND GOING ON PRIVATE BOATS AND DROPPING CAMERAS IN THE RIVER. IT WAS A GREAT PROJECT AND STILL IS A GREAT PROJECT. WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH THE TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL THIS YEAR. THAT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST TURNING POINTS, THE FIRST NIGHT OF THE SHRED IT WAS POURING RAIN AND PEOPLE HAD TO TAKE THEIR SHOES OFF TO COME TO CHURCH. 
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THERE WERE OVER 300 PEOPLE. OVER HALF OF THEM CAME TO DO THE DRAWINGS WITH THE ARCHITECTS. WHAT WOULD IT COST THE CITY? $150,000. THE COUNCIL DONATED TO US. WE SPENT $2000 ON FOOD AND HOTELS. $2000 WAS ALL IT COST FOR THAT MASTERPLAN. THAT IS WHEN THE PAVERS CAME, THE ROUNDABOUTS, A LOT OF THE CHANGES IN DOWNTOWN. WE RESTORED THE OLD CITY HALL. I WAS A $480,000 PROJECT THAT WE WROTE GRANTS WITH THE PRESERVATION APARTMENT IN TALLAHASSEE. WE HAVE A LOT OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT ON THAT. WE RESTORED THE HISTORIC CENTER AND IT WAS BUILT IN 1923 AND WE DONATED IT TO THE CITY AFTER NINE YEARS TO GET IT FINISHED. IT TOOK EIGHT YEARS TO CONVINCE THE FAMILY TO SELL IT. 
          I SAY THIS ALL THE TIME, I HAD TO PROMISE I WOULD DRESS UP IN GATOR CLOSE TO GET THAT DONE. FORTUNATELY, I DO NOT HAVE TO. A $14 MILLION RESTORATION PROJECT IS WHAT IT WAS. IT IS STILL A POPULAR VENUE FOR DOWNTOWN. WE ATTRACTED THE NEW BUSINESSES USING MARKETING STUDY CONDUCTED WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. WE RESTORED THE HISTORIC PLOTS BUILT IN 1896. NOW A VENDOR FOR OUR SHOWS AND EVENTS AND WAS IN A NIGHT THESE WEEK, EVERYONE IS INVITED, WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU. WE CREATED THE FISH FENCE WHICH IS GONE NOW. ALONG WITH TICKLE TOMMY HILL. AND LED THE BENNY CROWN ART PROJECT. THESE ARE THINGS YOU LOVE DOING AND WE ARE HAPPY TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY. I AM PLOTTING A NEW THING FOR YOU ALL. I WILL BREAK THE NEWS ANOTHER NIGHT. GET READY. 
          >> ALL RIGHT. WHO IS NEXT? >> IM WITH MAIN STREET, FORT PIERCE. I WILL MOVE QUICKLY THROW THIS INFORMATION FOR YOU ALL TONIGHT. A LITTLE BIT IS STRUCTURALLY FORMATIVE TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY. THEN WE WILL TRY AND TOUCH WHERE THE PERFORMANCE IN Q1 AND Q2 HAS BEEN. WE TRY TO INCLUDE DATA WHERE IT WAS REQUESTED. WE DO THINK -- THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU TO MEET WITH US AND HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS. 
          WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR EACH OF YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME. ONE THING THAT NONE OF THESE PRESENTATIONS SHOULD GO ANY FURTHER WITHOUT POINTING OUT IS THAT RIGHT NOW, DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE IS THE NUMBER ONE DESTINATION FOR VISITORS IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY. BY LARGE PERCENTAGE, IF YOU ARE ABLE TO SEE THE PRESENTATION. 
          RIGHT NOW, 16.3%, I SHOULD SAY, FROM JANUARY THROUGH MARCH, WHICH DOES INCLUDE SPRING TRAINING TIME, DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE WAS THE NUMBER ONE DESTINATION FOR VISITORS. THEY CAME FROM OVER 50 MILES AWAY AND STAYED FOR AT LEAST TWO HOURS, THEY LEFT, THEY DO NOT MAKE THAT TRIP MORE THAN 10 TIMES PER MONTH, AND SPENT 15 MINUTES DOWNTOWN. THAT DOES NOT EVEN NECESSARILY INCLUDE THE CITY MARINA WHICH IS HELD SEPARATELY. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE TWO COMBINED PERCENTAGES, IT SAYS A LOT ABOUT WHAT WE ARE HERE OFFERING. AND I WOULD ASK THAT YOU PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE GO THROUGH. I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND OUR THANKS TO VISIT ST. LUCIE FOR SHARING THIS DATA AND STATISTICS WITH US. JUST TO TOUCH ON REAL QUICKLY, SO THAT YOU ARE AWARE, WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF MONTHLY INITIATIVES, FRIDAY FEST SINCE 1998 AND COFFEE WITH MAYOR SINCE 2001. WE PARTICIPATE HEAVILY WITH THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ALLIANCE, NOT JUST ATTENDING MEETINGS FOR PARTNERING WITH PROJECTS AS THEY COME AND WORKING TO INNOVATE WHAT THEY BRING TO THE TABLE. TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FRIDAY FEST WE HAVE TO SHIFT AND DISCUSS THAT WE UNDERSTAND IT HAS CHANGED. WHAT IT HAS MOVED ON TO BE IS WHAT WE SEE AS AN INFORMAL INCUBATOR, BUSINESS INCUBATOR. WHAT WE HAVE SEEN, IS THAT IT IS STILL A LAUNCHPAD FOR NEW SMALL BUSINESSES, NEW FAMILY BUSINESSES. WE CANNOT HAVE NEW BRICK-AND-MORTAR BUSINESSES WITHOUT SOMEBODY STARTING SOMEWHERE. SOMETIMES IT IS THE FIRST PLACE THEY MOVED BEFORE THEY GO ONLINE. SOMETIMES WHERE THEY GO BEFORE THEY GET A FOOD TRUCK THAT LEADS TO THE RESTAURANT. IT IS IMPORTANT. WE SUPPORT 30-50 SMALL BUSINESSES EACH MONTH WITH FRIDAY FEST. WE ARE BUSINESSES IN OUR OWN DOWNTOWN THAT ARE SUCCESS STORIES , COMING FROM THESE TYPES OF VENDING EVENTS. WE NEED 
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THOSE DOWN THE PIPELINE TO CONTINUE THE PROGRESS IN FORT PIERCE. WE DO NOT PAY FOR THAT USING CITY FUNDS. WE DO HAVE OTHER SPONSORS AND PARTNERS THAT SUPPORT THE EVENT. WHILE THE ACTUAL PROFIT FROM THE EVENT IS MINIMAL, WE THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE THIS BECAUSE OF THE ADDED VALUE FOR ECONOMIC GROWTH. COFFEE WITH THE MAYOR IS AN EXCELLENT EVENT. 
          I'M SURE I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU ALL, WE APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER JOHNSON COMING IN RECENTLY AND OTHER FOLKS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED. WE ARE THANKFUL THAT, I WAS GOING TO SAY COMMISSIONER JAMES, THAT COMMISSIONER TAYLOR WAS ABLE TO HELP US ALONG WITH JEREMIAH JOHNSON, WITH TECHNOLOGY INTO THE FUTURE. DURING COVID WE STARTED BROADCASTING ON FACEBOOK LIVE. IT WAS JUST US IN A ROOM WITH A TINY CAMERA. IT KEPT ON. 
          WE DO BROADCAST EVERY MONTH. WE UNDERSTAND IT IS NOT AVAILABLE AND ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE TO GET OUT DURING THAT TIME. WE WANT EVERYONE TO PARTICIPATE AND WE HAVE AN OPEN PLATFORM AT THE END OF THE MEETING FOR FOLKS WHO WANT TO SHARE GOOD NEWS. I WILL NOT GO THROUGH AND LIST ALL OF THE EVENTS THAT WE PARTICIPATE IN ANNUALLY. WHAT I WANT TO FOCUS ON IS THE EVENTS IN Q2 ONE. WE HAVE TWO FUNDRAISING EVENTS. I WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT MAIN STREET IS NOT RELYING ON CITY FUNDS TO PAY SALARIES. 
          WE FUND RAISE AND THROUGH MEMBERSHIP AS WELL, WE PAY FOR OURSELVES. THE MONEY COMING FROM THE CITY IS GOING DIRECTLY BACK INTO THE REINVESTMENT OF THIS COMMUNITY. DURING Q1 WE HELD THE GO SUPPORT PIERCED -- PIERCE PASSED. OVER 1000 ATTENDEES WITH MORE THAN 100 VOLUNTEERS WHO PARTICIPATE INCLUDING THE DESCENDENTS OF FIGURES WHO ARE BEING PORTRAYED IN THE EVENT. 
          THEY ARE WELL RESEARCHED AND HISTORICALLY ACCURATE. WE ALSO HAVE, IT IS NOT PART OF THE DISCUSSION WE ARE HAVING TONIGHT, THE ANNUAL SIGHTS AND SOUNDS ON SECOND FESTIVAL AND PARADE. THIS YEAR COMING UP WILL BE THE 37TH ANNUAL. IN 2024, THERE WERE 16,000 ATTENDEES. WHILE OVER 100 FLOATS, BOATS, VEHICLES, AND MORE THAN 2000 PARTICIPANTS. HUNDREDS OF VOLUNTEERS PARTICIPATED IN THAT. INCLUDING OUR KEY PARTNERS WITH THE FORT PIERCE SUNRISE KOALAS AND THE FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO SPENT THE ENTIRE YEAR PLANNING THE EVENT. WE HAVE A MEETING THIS WEEK FOR IT. IT STARTS IN JANUARY AND GOES ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND IT IS WITH THAT AND BE SUPPORT OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO PUT ON AN EVENT THAT REMAINS SAFE. IT IS A RARE EVENT. WE ARE PROUD OF THAT. WE DO HOLD SOME ART SHOWS AT THE BACCHUS HOUSE. IT IS A PROMINENT LOCATION. IT IS IMPORTANT IN THE AREA. WE DO OUR BEST TO SHARE WITH THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AND ENCOURAGE THE ART OF SEVERAL LOCALS. NOW, DISCUSSING BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS HAD A GREAT DEAL OF INTEREST AND CONVERSATION ON. WE WANT TO MOVE TO PROVIDE YOU AS MUCH ACTUAL DATA AS POSSIBLE. I AM A BIG FAN OF DATA, I UNDERSTAND THE INTEREST IN IT. WE ARE BUILDING UP LONGITUDINAL DATA TO SHARE WITH YOU. RIGHT NOW IN THE LAST SEVEN MONTHS WE BEGAN RUNNING A REGULAR ARTICLE IN FOCUS MAGAZINE THAT HIGHLIGHTS, TO ALL OF OUR KNOWLEDGE, THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT. WE ARE NOT TRYING TO TAKE ANY CREDIT FOR IT, WE ARE NOT LINKING BACK OR MEASURING OUR IMPACT. ALTHOUGH, WE SHOULD BE. WE ARE REACHING OUT, PROVIDING THE CONTACT INFORMATION AND LOCATION OF THESE PROPERTIES, A PHONE NUMBER. WE MAINTAIN A CATALOG OF THOSE INTERNALLY AND ARE CONNECTING INTERESTED FOLKS WITH THOSE APPROPRIATE SPACES. WE ARE NOT LISTING THOSE BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW WHERE IT WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE TO PULL OUT AND DISCUSS AND BRAG ON OURSELVES. 
          WE HAVE GOOD AND EXCITING THINGS COMING TO DOWNTOWN. ONE THING I 
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WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT WHEN YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IS WHAT IS CALLED THE BOOMS TRACKER. A PROGRAM THROUGH MAINSTREET AMERICA, MAINSTREET FORT PIERCE IS A PILOT GROUP FOR THIS. OVER 1000 PROGRAMS TO PARTICIPATE IN. WE ARE ONE OF EIGHT. WE UTILIZE THE DATA IN CONJUNCTION WITH ST. LUCIE COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER. WE DO MANUAL INPUT THAT CAN ONLY BE DONE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL ON A USE CONDITION, POTENTIAL USE AND POSSIBLE IMPEDIMENTS TO THE PROPERTY IS MOVING FORWARD. THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT MAP IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE PARTICULARLY PROUD OF. A PROJECT THAT BEGAN SEVERAL YEARS AGO AS A WAY TO SIMPLY TELL FOLKS WHERE FREE PARKING WAS AVAILABLE. THE QR CODE THAT IS ON YOUR SCREEN, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SCAN IT ANY TIME. YOU ARE BROUGHT DIRECTLY TO AN OPEN MAP THAT INCLUDES 110 LOCAL BUSINESSES, LANDMARKS, ACTIVITIES, ENTERTAINMENT AND FREE PARKING LOCATIONS. WE HAVE NOT MONETIZED IT AND WE HAVE KEPT AS ACCURATE AND AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN SELLING PLACEMENT. THE MAP HAS BEEN VIEWED OVER 47,000 TIMES. 
          WE SUPPORT DOWNTOWN BUSINESS IN MORE THAN ONE WAY. BY PUBLISHING THROUGH THE FOCUS MAGAZINE, WE HAVE COVERED MULTIPLE EVENT THEY HAVE GOING ON DOWNTOWN. WE OFFER SMALL BUSINESS TRAININGS THROUGH OTHER AVENUES. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING ON OFFERING AN ADDITIONAL TRAINING HERE LOCALLY. SOMETIMES IT IS WHAT FOLKS WANT AND SOME TIMES IT IS NOT, THEN WE MOVE ON AND LOOK FOR OTHER AVENUES. WE DO FEEL AS THOUGH THAT WE DO A GOOD JOB OF ATTRACTING A LOT OF RESIDENCE AND VISITORS TO DOWNTOWN WHO BENEFIT ALL OF THOSE SAME BUSINESSES. OUR SPECIFIC EVENT PARTNERSHIPS LEAD WITH SHOP SMALL SATURDAY THAT DID FALL IN Q1 OF THIS YEAR. IT HAS BEEN GROWING OVER THE LAST SEVEN YEARS, IT IS THE LARGEST RETAIL SHOPPING DAY OF THE YEAR IN DOWNTOWN. IT IS MORE THAN THAT, IT IS FUN, IT IS A GREAT TIME. 
          MY KIDS WERE GROWN ALWAYS WANT TO BE HERE AND GO AND PARTICIPATE. IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT KIDS WHO HAVE GROWN AND FLOWN, THEY DO NOT WANT TO COME HOME FOR A LOT OF THINGS. THEY ARE HERE FOR SHOP SMALL SATURDAY. WE DISTRIBUTE THE PASSPORTS AS WELL AS WORKING WITH DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES TO ACQUIRE MATERIALS THROUGH THE SHOP SMALL SATURDAY PROGRAM. AND DISTRIBUTE THAT AS WELL. WE DO NOT JUST DO THAT, WE PARTICIPATE WHERE THERE ARE POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITIES OR AN IDEA. SOME OF THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES CAME UP WITH THE IDEA FOR A SELFIE STATION. WE GOT TO WORK. WE CAN'T ELVES, WE PRINTED SIGNS, WE USE ALL OF THE SHEET PROTECTORS WE HAD IN OUR ENTIRE OFFICE. I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW MUCH IT ATTRACTED. IT WAS FUN AND DIFFERENT AND WE TRIED. NEWLY THEY MADE FUN OF MY ELF. 
          >> IT WAS CREEPY, IT WAS REALLY WEIRD. 
          >> WE DO PROVIDE DISTRIBUTION AND PRINTING OF A NUMBER OF MARKETING MATERIALS FOR DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES INCLUDING SIGNAGE ON MAPS, FOR THE TRICK-OR-TREAT ON SECOND STREET AS WELL AS PROVIDING SHOPPING AND DINING GUIDES UPON REQUEST. WE TRY NOT TO PRINT TOO MUCH UNTIL THEY NEED IT BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE AS ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY AS POSSIBLE. WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO USE THE DIGITAL MAP WHENEVER POSSIBLE. FOCUS MAGAZINE, WE HAVE HAD IT FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS, THE ANNUAL CIRCULATION IS OVER 50,000 COPIES A YEAR WHICH YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN RIGHT NOW, COVERS FROM THE LAST SIX MONTHS. JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE TASTE OF WHAT WE DO WITH IT. THIS IS A LITTLE DRIER, WE WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE EXTENT TO WHICH WE GO TO TO ENSURE THAT THE CITY ANNOUNCEMENTS AND INFORMATION IS INCLUDED IN THE FOCUS MAGAZINE. THIS IS A SAMPLING OF THE PERFORMANCE DURING Q1 AND Q2 AND THE TOPICS THAT WERE DISTRIBUTED TO US, WE ARE EXPANDING UPON TOPICS THAT WERE SPECIFICALLY REQUESTED FROM US. WITH A WAIVER PERIOD FOR -- IT WILL BE IN THE NEXT ISSUE OF THE FOCUS. WE LOVE OUR VOLUNTEERS. I THINK YOU NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT THE FINANCIAL IMPACT AND WHAT THEIR TIME 
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GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY IS WORTH. Q1, WE SAW OVER 1000 HOURS, THAT WAS SUPPORTED THROUGH SEVERAL EVENTS INCLUDING SIGHTS AND SOUNDS, AND GHOST WALK. WE USE A MULTIPLIER THAT IS PROVIDED BY THE STATE. IT VARIES FROM QUARTER TO QUARTER. 
          FOR THE FIRST QUARTER, $32,000. FOR THE SECOND QUARTER, $33,000. 
          THAT IS VALUE GIVEN TO THE COMMUNITY, NOT US SPECIFICALLY. 
          WE HAVE ONGOING PARTNERSHIPS WITH A NUMBER OF ORGANIZATIONS. 
          I WILL NOT TAKE YOUR TIME TO LIST THEM ALL. PLEASE KNOW THAT THERE IS MORE THAT WE HAVE MISSED HERE. WE ARE ALWAYS PROUD TO WORK IN TANDEM WITH LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS AND TO IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE. SOME NOTABLE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE HAD DURING THE FIRST AND SECOND QUARTER, WERE THE LEVITT, FORT PIERCE GRANT THAT BROUGHT LOCAL BANDS TO A LARGE STAGE. IT WAS UTILIZED IN MORRIS CREEK AS WELL. THAT CONCLUDED IN NOVEMBER, 2024. OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WAS A COMMITTEE MEMBER FOR THE WESTERN PENINSULA CHARRETTE. OBVIOUSLY USING HER SIZABLE KNOWLEDGE AND BACKGROUND. I DID NOT SAY OLD, JUST SIZABLE. IT WAS THERE. TO SHARE. AND TO SHARE HER WISDOM. 
          THE ST. LUCIE HISTORICAL SOCIETY MEMBERS PARTNER WITH US FREQUENTLY ON THE RETELLING OF HISTORIC FIGURES LOCALLY. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE GET IT CORRECT. WE HAVE BOARD MEMBER AND FOCUS EDITOR WHO ACTUALLY WENT TO THEIR ORGANIZATION TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT METHODOLOGY. WE ENJOY PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE FORT PIERCE SHOP LOVE AND METHODIST CHURCH PROVIDING CRITICAL SUPPORT FOR THE GHOT WALK. WE HAVE ONGOING PARTNERSHIPS DURING FRIDAY FEST FOR PUBLIC UTILITIES WEEK. WE ARE HOSTING, IN ADDITION TO THE GIGANTIC AMERICAN FLAG THAT EVERYONE DOES LOVE, THEY BRING OUT TRUCKS WHICH KIDS ADORE, THEY HAVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, INTERACTIVE DISPLAYS, THEY ARE ALSO PROVIDING THE SITE LOCATION FOR THE FIREWORKS. NOW, FOURTH OF JULY DOES NOT FALL ON THIS DAY, HE WOULD BE MISSING DO NOT MENTION THAT THEY DO IT FOR THAT. THEY HAVE PREVIOUSLY FOR NEW YEAR'S EVE. THEY LIVE STRING THE FIREWORKS FOR US. THAT ELIMINATES THE FINANCIAL BURDEN ON THE CITY AND MAIN STREET FORT PIERCE. THE SUNRISE KOALAS SERVE AS PRIMARY PARTNERS IN YOUR WIDE EFFORTS WHICH WE MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY. OKAY. YOU ASKED FOR NUMBERS, WE GOT YOU NUMBERS. WE HAVE A WEBSITE CALENDAR OF EVENTS THAT IS CURRENT THROUGH APRIL OF 2026. I WILL NOT BORE YOU WITH GOING THROUGH THE NUMBERS. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE BROKEN IT DOWN TO BE AS CLEAR DATA AS POSSIBLE. WE HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA USE, SOCIAL MEDIA OUTREACH. WE HAVE UTILIZED UNIQUE VISITORS. 
          BEING A DATA PERSON MYSELF, I DO NOT CARE ABOUT WEBSITE VIEWS THAT ARE NOT UNIQUE. THAT IS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF MY OWN INTEREST THERE. WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THIS IS SOME PRESSING MEDIA THAT MAIN STREET FORT PIERCE WAS -- TO GARNERING. WE HAVE A BROAD PORTFOLIO OF RELATIONSHIPS. WE ARE GLAD TO BE A PARTNER IN OUR COMMUNITY AND TRUSTWORTHY TO PROVIDE HONEST AND RELIABLE INFORMATION TO MEDIA PARTNERS WHO KNOW THEY CAN COVER OUR ORGANIZATION. AND KNOW THAT WE WILL BE ACCESSIBLE AND HONEST AND UP FRONT. WE ARE PLEASED TO ENJOY ONGOING RELATIONSHIPS WITH THESE MEDIA ORGANIZATIONS AND IT IS ALL POSITIVE COVERAGE FOR FORT PIERCE. INCLUDING THE FRONT PAGE OF THE PAPER. FRONT PAGE OF THE PAPER DOES NOT REALLY HAPPEN THAT MUCH ANYMORE. WE ARE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. WE HAVE SOME GREAT ACCREDITATION WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED. FEEL FREE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS. AND JUST A NOD TO OUR BOARD, THE EXECUTIVE BOARD, BOARD OF DIRECTORS, STAFF, AND CONTRACT STAFF AS WELL. THAT INCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION. WE ARE OPEN TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR US. 
          >> COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER GAINES. 
          >> THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. ONE OF THE SLIDES, 
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          IT LOOKS LIKE ME. >> DID YOU? 
          >> YEAH. >> YOU CAUGHT ME OUT. 
          >> YOU ARE A GOOD SPORT. >> THANK YOU. IT WAS A GOOD MEETING WITH OUR ONE ON ONES. WE DISCUSSED A LOT OF STUFF AND A LOT OF IDEAS. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED, COMING INTO THE FUTURE. REAL QUICK, ONE OF THE FIRST SLIDES YOU PUT UP WAS THE LAST THING YOU HAD, WAS THE 16%, 8%, ONE OF THE PERCENTS THAT YOU HAD, WAS LONGWOOD BASEBALL FIELD. THE COMMISSIONERS ALREADY KNOW WHERE I AM GOING WITH THIS. WE ARE MISSING A GOLD MINE BY NOT PROMOTING AND ASKING ALL OF THESE TRAVEL TEAMS AND ALL OF THESE TOURNAMENTS, TO COME TO FORT PIERCE AND HAVE MORE TOURNAMENTS. NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THOSE BASEBALL FIELDS RIGHT BEHIND LONGWOOD, WE HAVE FIVE SOFTBALL FIELDS. THOSE PARENTS WILL COME TO FORT PIERCE AND WILL STAY FROM A FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY AND HAVE TO STAY SOMEWHERE AND EAT SOMEWHERE. 
          AGAIN, I TALKED ABOUT THIS IN OUR MEETING. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN DO IT. JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE. IT WILL GET BUSINESS TO DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE. I SAW YOU HAD THE NUMBER UP, I WANT TO THROW THAT OUT AGAIN. AS FAR AS THE FRIDAY FEST, I'M CURIOUS. I SAW THE 30-40 VENDORS YOU HAVE. IF SOMEONE IS LISTENING TONIGHT AND WANTED TO PARTICIPATE AS A VENDOR IN FRIDAY FEST, HOW WOULD THEY GO ABOUT GETTING INFORMATION TO WORK THEIR BUSINESS TO YOU, SAYING, CAN I COME AND PARTICIPATE? 
          >> ALL HAVE TO DO IS REACH OUT TO US BY PHONE. WE DO HAVE AN EMAIL FORM, A CONTACT FORM ON OUR WEBSITE WE DO NOT PUBLISH OUR APPLICATIONS, CURRENTLY. IN PART OF PROTECTING SMALL BUSINESSES. WE TRY NOT TO DUPLICATE, FOOD VENDORS, WE DO NOT WANT THREE PEOPLE SELLING HOTDOGS. WE DO NOT PROVIDE AN AUTOMATIC APPROVAL. THOSE ARE SOME OF THE INTERESTS. GENERALLY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE FOOD AREAS WHERE WE TRY NOT TO DUPLICATE AND WHEN IT MIGHT BE QUESTIONABLE INFORMATION OR PRODUCTS, WE ARE VERY OPEN AND AVAILABLE. 
          >> THE ONLY REASON I ASK THAT QUESTION, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, I HAVE SEEN SOME AREAS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY WHERE CERTAIN FOOD TRUCKS, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON KNOWS WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS. CERTAIN BUSINESSES WILL JUST COME INTO FORT PIERCE AND THERE WILL BE A LINE, TWO MILES LONG. OKAY, WAIT A MINUTE, IF YOU ARE DOING THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS, COME DOWN AND JOIN OUR FRIDAY FEST BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT. I WANT THEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE WELCOME TO COME THROUGH AND CALL YOU GUYS AND SAY, WILL YOU BE A PART OF THIS? THAT IS WHY I 
          ASKED THE QUESTION. >> ABSOLUTELY, WE HAVE KEPT RATES LOW AND COMPETITIVE FOR THAT VERY REASON. WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE THESE TRENDIER FOOD TRUCKS COMING. WE ALWAYS TRY TO PROMOTE THEM. WE GOT CHICK-FIL-A RECENTLY. 
          >> AS SOON AS THAT THING IS GOING DOWN IN FORT PIERCE, DO NOT EMAIL ME IF YOU GET CRAZY CALLS. WHAT TYPE OF FOOD? I'M TELLING YOU, FROM WHAT I AM SEEING, THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES TO SEE WHAT ELSE IS 
          GOING ON. >> THAT GIRL FROM CHICK-FIL-A IS A LOCAL GIRL THAT OPENS THE BUSINESS HERE IN TOWN. WE ARE REAL GLAD TO SEE HER COME DOWNTOWN. 
          >> WE HAVE HAD A KOREAN AND HAWAIIAN FUSION COME THROUGH RECENTLY. WE TRY TO REMAIN OPEN FOR ANY TYPE OF VENDOR THAT WE DON'T ALREADY HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS ESTABLISHED AND A REGULAR VENDOR. WE WILL NOT HOLD A SPACE BECAUSE SOMEONE COMES ONCE. IF 
          THEY ARE A MONTHLY PERSON. >> WE CAN TALK. I CAN GET YOU SOME EXOTIC. YOU WILL BE LIKE, OKAY. THAT IS WHY COMMISSIONER JOHNSON IS DOWN THERE LAUGHING BECAUSE HE HAS SEEN THOSE TRUCKS. THE LINES ARE LONG. I CAN GET YOU THAT INFORMATION. 
          >> WE HAVE NOT HAD LUNCH TODAY. 
          >> I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND. FINALLY, THE CHRISTMAS PARADE IS GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER EVERY YEAR. I AM PART OF SOME ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ALREADY PLANNING TO BE PART OF IT. LIKE 
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I SAID IN OUR MEETING, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN, WE MIGHT NEED TO DRIVE A LITTLE LONGER JUST TO GET MORE PEOPLE DOWN THERE. THAT IS THE ONLY COMPLAINT I GOT FROM THAT PARADE. THAT SHORT TURN. 
          I'M NOT OVER THERE. >> AT THE ROUNDABOUT? 
          >> WHERE WE COME DOWN AND TURN BY SECOND STREET. I HAVE HAD PEOPLE SAY , GO A LITTLE FURTHER AND COME AROUND THAT WAY. I DO NOT KNOW IF IT IS FEASIBLE. I AM HEARING THE SAME THING. I'M 
          JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE. >> THAT IS VERY REASONABLE. ONE OF THE REASONS WHY SIGHTS AND SOUNDS IS NOT PART OF THE AGREEMENT FOR THE CITY IS BECAUSE OF THE CHANGING NEEDS. 
          FROM SECURITY, SAFETY, IT IS A MASSIVE UNDERTAKING AND IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO DISCUSS IN PUBLIC. WE ARE HAPPY TO HAVE PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE THE PUBLIC SAFETY ELEMENT OF IT HAS TO BE OF THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE. 
          >> WHERE WE START, JUST MOVING IT BACK DOWN THAT WAY AND DRIVING A LITTLE BIT MORE. JUST1 THROWING THAT OUT THERE. THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS, THEY LOVE IT. A LOT OF PEOPLE, LIKE YOU SAID, 
          TOO CROWDED. >> IT REALLY IS EXCITING. IT IS 
          MAGICAL. YOU ARE NOT WRONG. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> WOULD LIKE TO GO NEXT? DO YOU WANT TO GO NEXT? 
          >> YOU HAVE A NEW PARADE COMMITTEE. 
          >> THAT IS WHAT I WAS THINKING. 
          >> I HEARD IT TOO. >> IF I HAVE TO, I WILL. 
          >> I SUGGESTED THAT. WE SUGGESTED OTHER WAYS TO MAKE IT LONGER. I THOUGHT ABOUT DOING A WATCH PARTY FROM THE SECOND 
          FLOOR FOR THE PARADE. >> SUNRISE, MAKING MONEY. 
          >> DEFINITELY. >> COMMISSION? 
          >> FOR THE PUBLIC. IF YOU PAY. >> YOU GET STUCK THERE FOR A 
          DRINK? >> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          I DO NOT WANT TO SAY THAT I AM AN EXPERT BUT I AM PRETTY CLOSE 
          TO A. >> MAIN STREET, FORT PIERCE. 
          >> I DO IT BACKWARDS EVERY TIME. I WAS PREVIOUSLY ON THE BOARD FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS. I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND INTERACTIONS WITH YOU GUYS. I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE ALL OF THIS OUT HERE IN THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING. THERE WAS SOME PUSHBACK ON GETTING INTO THE MORE FORMAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. CANDIDLY, IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, I HAVE SAID, I DO NOT KNOW IF THIS IS ALL WORTH $50,000. IT IS WORTH HOLDING ANOTHER FUNDRAISER INSTEAD OF DEALING WITH ALL OF THIS CRAP THAT WE ARE ASKING. IT IS A LOT. I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO CONTINUE WITH THAT RELATIONSHIP. I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU GUYS DO. I THINK THE GOOD PART ABOUT THIS IS THAT YOU WILL BE HEARING A CITY COMMISSION MEETING ONCE A QUARTER. IT IS UP FRONT AND CENTER ALL OF THE STUFF YOU GUYS ARE DOING TO HELP DOWNTOWN OUT OF THE CITY. I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO. I DO NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING TO ADD. 
          >> I JUST WANT TO SAY, GREAT JOB, THANK YOU, I ENJOYED MEETING WITH YOU AND IF ANYTHING, MAKING PEOPLE MORE AWARE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU BRING TO THE AREA, THANK YOU FOR 
          THAT. >> A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. YOUR BOARD MEETINGS ARE NOT OPEN TO MEMBERS OR TO THE PUBLIC, IS THAT A CORRECT STATEMENT? > OUR BOARD MEETINGS ARE NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, YES, THAT IS CORRECT. WE DO HAVE AN ANNUAL BOARD MEETING THAT IS OPEN TO OUR ENTIRE MEMBERSHIP. THERE IS A MECHANISM WHERE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF MEMBERS COULD REQUEST TO PARTICIPATE IN A BOARD MEETING. BUT OUR BOARD IS GOVERNED BY A BOARD OF DIRECTORS, WE HAVE COMPLETE TRANSPARENCY WITH THE EXECUTIVE BOARD AS WELL. WE ARE AUDITED. 
          WE DO NOT MAINTAIN THE OPENNESS THAT SOME ORGANIZATIONS MAY WHEN THEY ARE PUBLICLY FUNDED FULLY. THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF METHODOLOGY THAT COMES INTO RUNNING A NONPROFIT. IN A LOT OF WAYS, WE ARE OUR OWN SMALL BUSINESS AND WOULD NOT SUIT EVERYONE WHO DOES BUSINESS WITH US, TO BE COMPLETELY OPEN. 
          >> I UNDERSTAND THAT. I JUST THINK, POTENTIALLY, FROM A PR PERSPECTIVE, THE DISSEMINATION OF INFORMATION DIRECTLY FROM A 
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BOARD MEETING MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO YOU SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING. CITY COMMISSION GETS THE BENEFIT OF HAVING A PRESENTATION MADE. THE PUBLIC , CONSUMERS OF YOUR PRODUCT, SUCH AS THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT COME TO ALL OF THEIR EVENT THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, HAVE NO CLUE WHAT MAINSTREET IS UP TO. OR THAT MAIN STREET MIGHT BE BEHIND A LOT OF THESE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE. I THINK, JUST FOR YOU GUYS TO CHAT ABOUT IT AT YOUR OWN ACCORD. I THINK IF YOU HAD AN OPEN POLICY TO YOUR BOARD MEETINGS, YOU MAY GET SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CASTING ASPERSIONS IN YOUR DIRECTION, THEY MAY TAKE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ONCE THEY FIND OUT THE -- YOU NEED TO GRIND TO PERFORM THE THINGS THAT YOU DO. WHICH I FIND TO BE QUITE EXTENSIVE, CANDIDLY. JUST A 
          SUGGESTION. >> WE ACTUALLY MET WITH THEM, 
          FOR OVER TWO HOURS. >> I'M JUST SUGGESTING, IN 
          GENERAL. >> WHEN WE HAVE HAD FOLKS, WE TRY TO BE TRANSPARENT, OPEN, WHEN THERE ARE FOLKS WHO MAY HAVE QUESTIONS. WE ARE ALWAYS OPEN TO CONSIDERING THE SUGGESTIONS FROM OTHERS, AS WELL AS, WE DISCUSSED PUBLISHING THE MINUTES FROM OUR MEETINGS, EVEN IF WE DO NOT OPEN UP THE FULL 
          MEETINGS. >> OKAY, I AM JUST MAKING A SUGGESTION. IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD FEND OFF PROBLEMS, POTENTIALLY. IT IS YOUR ORGANIZATION, YOUR BOARD, ET CETERA. YOU WILL RUN IT AS YOU DEEM APPROPRIATE. YOU HAVE HAD A HIGH LEVEL OF SUCCESS IN YOUR UNDERTAKINGS FOR A HIGH DURATION OF TIME. I'M NOT QUESTIONING THE SUCCESS OR INTEGRITY OF THE ORGANIZATION. IT SEEMS TO ME, LIKE CITY COMMISSION MEETINGS ARE OPEN TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO COME BY AND CHAT AND ALL THAT, THE INTENTION IS TO DISSEMINATE INFORMATION AND BE AS OPEN AND FORTHRIGHT AS MUCH AS ANY OF US CAN BE RELATIVE TO THE OPERATIONS OF THE CITY. YOU MAY WANT TO DISCUSS WITH YOUR BOARD, TAKING A PAGE , I NEVER LIKE TO SAY, TAKE A PAGE FROM A GOVERNMENT DOES, THE ANTITHESIS OF MY EXISTENCE ON THIS PLANET. YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M GOING WITH 
          THAT. >> I DO. I HOPE YOU DO NOT TAKE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS SMALL POINT, WE HAD A COUPLE OF SLIDES IN HERE THAT INCLUDED CHALLENGES AND WINS. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WOULD FALL UNDER CHALLENGES, IS THAT, WE ARE JUST THE TWO OF US. WE HAVE A GREAT WORKING BOARD, WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE, IT IS JUST THE TWO OF US. IF YOU LOOK AT EQUITABLE ORGANIZATIONS IN GOVERNMENT DOING THE SAME NUMBER OF JOBS WEARING THE SAME NUMBER OF HATS, YOU WOULD SEE THAT BY A MULTIPLIER. EVEN ENGAGING IN THIS CONTRACT PROCESS HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY TIME-CONSUMING FOR US. EVERY MOMENT WE ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE PAPERWORK SIDE OF THINGS, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY, IT IS ANOTHER MOMENT THAT WE ARE NOT DOING -- I HOPE THAT DOES NOT SOUND SILLY AND MAKES SENSE. WE DO NOT HAVE THE SUPPORT, FUNDING FOR A LOT OF THIS. EVEN THE ANXIETY WE HAVE IN LOOKING AT A CONTRACT THAT HAS PUBLIC RECORDS REQUIREMENTS OR EVEN THE EXTENT OF REPORTING INSURANCE. THESE ARE NOT BURDENS, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THEM. THEY ARE TAXING ON US AND IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO DO OUR JOBS. I ABSOLUTELY UNDERSTAND, RESPECT, AND SEE YOUR POINT IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE, I HAVE HAD EXPERIENCE IN GOVERNMENT. I UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF WHY THERE IS THAT LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY. TRANSPARENCY TAKES TIME AND MONEY. AND WE FRANKLY DON'T HAVE IT. WE FUND RAISE TO PAY OURSELVES. WE ARE CONSTANTLY LOOKING FOR WAYS TO EXTEND OUR ORGANIZATION AND BRING IN OTHER PEOPLE. WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO WITH THE RESOURCES WE HAVE, SHOWS THAT WE CAN DO MORE WITH LESS. I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND. I SEE YOUR POINT, BUT COMPLETELY. 
          I WOULD BE VERY WELCOMING TO AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO MORE, IF WE FOUND A GRANT OPTION THAT PROVIDED FOR FUNDING, THROUGH DIGITAL MEANS, OR EXTENDED STAFFING THAT COULD HELP US WITH THAT. WE WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT. WE ARE VERY PROUD. 
          >> I SEE COMMISSIONER JOHNSON BACK THERE GIVING ME THE EYE. 
          THIS WILL COME UP IN ONE OF YOUR BOARD MEETINGS RELATIVELY SOON. 
          IT JUST WARRANTS A DISCUSSION, THAT IS ALL. 
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          >> I DON'T THINK IT CAN BE OVERSTATED WHAT MAINSTREET DOES FOR DOWNTOWN, IN MY OPINION. YOU THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT YOU BRING TO DOWNTOWN, IT IS NOT IN THE BRICK-AND-MORTAR LIKE SUNRISE THEATRE OR RESTAURANTS, YOU'RE BRINGING THEM DOWNTOWN FOR FESTIVALS, FOR PARADES, AND WHEN PEOPLE GET COMFORTABLE COMING TO DOWNTOWN AND REALIZE THAT IT IS FUN AND THAT IT IS SAFE AND IT HELPS THE BUSINESSES AND HAS A RIPPLE EFFECT. I BELIEVE THAT MAIN STREET ALSO HELPED START TO THE FARMERS MARKET AND THE FARMERS MARKET IS NOW A STANDALONE MARKET THAT BRINGS PEOPLE DOWNTOWN EVERY SATURDAY MORNING, YEAR-ROUND, RAIN OR SHINE. THE FARMERS MARKET IS ALSO A BUSINESS INCUBATOR. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          BUSINESSES CAN GET STARTED WHEN THEY HAVE A FOOD TRUCK OR A TENT AND THEY SELL THINGS. WE HAVE SEVERAL BUSINESSES THAT HAVE STARTED FROM THE FARMERS MARKET. I THINK THAT THE VALUE YOU PROVIDE IS REALLY THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE ALL OF THE VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE ENTHUSIASTIC AND DOING A LOT OF WORK FOR YOU AND SUPPORTING THE CITY AND WANTING TO SUPPORT DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES, PLUS ALL OF THE PEOPLE YOU BRING DOWNTOWN AND EXPOSED TO DOWNTOWN. I CANNOT TELL YOU THE TIMES, WHEN I HAVE BEEN AT THE FARMERS MARKET AND I HEAR SOMEBODY SAY, THIS IS JUST BEAUTIFUL, THIS IS GREAT, HOW COME I DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS? WE MARKET ALL THE TIME AND TELL PEOPLE ALL THE TIME. I HAVE ALSO HEARD THAT PEOPLE IN PORT SAINT LUCIE, WHEN THEY HAVE COMPANY, GUESS WHERE THEY TAKE THEM? DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE.I SAY, YOUR ADDED VALUE IS NOT OVERSTATED. YOU BRING PEOPLE DOWNTOWN, AND THE GHOST WALK TO ME, IS ONE OF THE FINEST THINGS THAT YOU DO. BECAUSE PEOPLE REALLY APPRECIATE THE LOCAL HISTORY AND THEY APPRECIATE IT IF THEY HAVE LIVED HERE FOR SEVERAL GENERATIONS OR IF THEY ARE BRAND-NEW FROM NEW JERSEY. 
          PEOPLE FROM NEW JERSEY DO NOT THINK THAT FLORIDA HAS HISTORY BECAUSE THEY ARE SO MUCH OLDER TAN WE ARE. THAT INVOLVES A VOLUNTEERS. YOU HAVE VOLUNTEERS ACTUALLY ACTING OUT THE ROLES. 
          >> 100 VOLUNTEERS. >> RIGHT. I HAVE ANOTHER ONE FOR YOU, SOMEONE SAYS THEY WANT TO BE INVOLVED AND THEY ARE NOW RETIRED AND THEY HAVE TIME ON THEIR HANDS AND THEY WANT TO BE 
          INVOLVED, SEND THEM YOUR WAY. >> WE ARE ALREADY PLANNING. 
          >> THAT LENDS A LOT OF THINGS, THE LOCAL HISTORY, IT MAKES PEOPLE PROUD OF THE PLACE THEY LIVE IN AND UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY LIVE. I HEAR YOU ON THE PAPERWORK. I KNOW THAT HAPPENS. 
          THE CITY HAS TO DO THAT WHEN WE GET GRANTS, YOU HAVE TO TRACK IT AND FOLLOW IT AND JUSTIFY. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I WILL SEE YOU WEDNESDAY EVENING AT YOUR ANNUAL 
          MEETING. >> WE WILL SEE ALL OF YOU. 
          [11. CONSENT AGENDA]
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. MAYBE THE NEXT 
          ITEM IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> IS THERE ANY ITEM THAT ANYONE 
          WOULD LIKE TO PULL? >> ITEMS A. AND B. 
          >> REMEMBER, WE DO NOT HAVE C. ANYTHING ELSE? WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE REST OF THE AGENDA? 
          >> SURE, MOVED TO APPROVE THE REST OF THE AGENDA WITHOUT ITEMS 
          A. AND B. >> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. 
          >> 
          [a.  Approval of Specific Authorization 1 with Cotleur & Hearing, Inc. for Urban Planning Professional Services of Old St. Anastasia and adjacent lots for an amount not to exceed $125,975.00]
          >> NEXT ITEM IS APPROVAL OF SPECIFIC AUTHORIZATION 1 WITH COTLEUR & HEARING, INC. FOR URBAN PLANNING PROFESSIONAL SERVICES OF OLD ST. ANASTASIA AND ADJACENT LOTS FOR AN AMOUNT 
          >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. >> I REQUEST FOR THIS TO BE 
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PULLED BECAUSE THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR US TO COMMIT. THE SAINT ANASTASIA BUILDING HAS QUITE AN EXTENSIVE HISTORY. SOME GREAT, SOME NOT SO GREAT. THE CITY EXPENDED HALF $1 MILLION UNDER COMMISSIONER GAINES, EXOSKELETON RENOVATIONS. A RENOVATION OF THE BUILDING THAT CAME OUT EXTRAORDINARILY WELL. 
          VERY PROUD THAT THE CITY COMMISSION UNDERTOOK THIS PROJECT, FUNDED THIS PROJECT AND YOU EXECUTED ON THIS. MY CONGRATULATIONS, HE WAS AN OUTSTANDING PIECE OF WORK. NOW, HAVING HAD SAID THAT, IN READING THROUGH THIS LINE ITEM, THAT IS WHY I ASKED FOR A FURTHER EXPLANATION. IT APPEARS THAT WE ARE DOING A BUSINESS PLAN FOR THE GENERAL AREA. BEING THE CORNERSTONE OF THAT IS THE SAINT ANASTASIA BUILDING AND POTENTIAL USES FOR THAT BUILDING AT SOME POINT IN TIME, THERE ACTUALLY COULD BE A RAINBOW AT THE END OF THIS THING THAT IT GENERATES SOME MONEY. SO, I'M GUESSING, I AM ASKING, CHEYENNE, WHAT ARE WE SPENDING $125,000 ON. IF IT IS A MARKETING STUDY. CAN YOU ALSO TOUCH ON, HOW WAS THIS VENDOR SELECTED AT THE PRICE OF $125,000. IT SEEMS TO ME, WE ARE SPENDING A TRUCKLOAD OF MONEY ON WHAT APPEARS TO BE A MARKETING ASSESSMENT. TAKE IT AWAY. 
          EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT I AM MISSING HERE. 
          >> MADAME MAYOR, LET ME PULL UP THE ITEM HERE. TIM, IF YOU CAN HELP ME. THANK YOU. STAFF PUT THIS TOGETHER, THEY COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT. I THINK I HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING HERE. OLD SAINT ANASTASIA, YOU'RE RIGHT, THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING, I LOVE LOOKING AT THE BEFORE PICTURES. NOW, IT IS HARD TO REMEMBER WHAT IT EVEN LOOKED LIKE. A QUICK REMINDER OF HOW AMAZING THAT TRANSFORMATION HAS BEEN. LET'S START WITH HOW THE VENDOR WAS SELECTED. LAST YEAR WE ISSUED A REQUEST, THE YEAR BEFORE, A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS TO GET CONSULTANTS ON CONTINUING SERVICES. THIS IS TO HELP THE SPEED TO INITIATING THESE AGREEMENTS WITH THESE DIFFERENT CONSULTANTS FOR A VARIETY OF SERVICES. IT COULD BE ARCHITECTURAL, PLANNING, ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THEY WERE SELECTED THROUGH A COMPETITIVE PROCESS. THEY ARE ON CONTINUING SERVICES WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE OR THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WHOEVER THAT MAY BE. 
          WE CAN CALL ON THEM OR ANY PROJECT. WE CALLED ON THIS PARTICULAR GROUP, FOR THIS PROJECT, BASED ON A LOT OF THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH SIMILAR PROJECTS AND RELATIONSHIPS WITH SUBCONSULTANTS. YOU WILL SEE, AS PART OF THE AGENDA ITEM, AN EXTENSIVE LIST OF SUBCONSULTANTS ON WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO. 
          THE ARCHITECT, WHO IS GOING TO WORK ON A HISTORICAL ASSESSMENT OF THIS BUILDING, THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT AS WE LOOK TOWARDS GRANT FUNDS AS WE TRY TO ACHIEVE THEM FOR THE INTERIOR RENOVATION OF THIS BUILDING. THAT IS HOW THEY WERE SELECTED THROUGH THE CONTINUING SERVICES PROCESS. NOW THAT THIS IS A SPECIFIC AUTHORIZATION TO THE BOARD LAST WEEK, WE ARE HERE FOR THE CITY COMMISSION SINCE THE AGREEMENT IS WITH THE CITY. LOOKING AT HOW THIS IS THROUGHOUT THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY PLAN, WHAT ELSE DOES SHE HAVE HERE? LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ENTIRE SITE HERE. 
          THREE PARCELS, ONE OF WHICH IS THE CORNERSTONE, IF YOU RECALL, THIS PROPERTY WAS LEASED OUT, THEY WERE UNSUCCESSFUL IN DOING THE INTERIOR RENOVATION, WE GOT THE PROPERTY BACK. WE NEVER SOLD IT. THE AGREEMENT WAS TERMINATED. WE ARE IN CONTROL OF THE BUILDING. BEFORE WE GO OUT FOR ANOTHER LEASE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WHAT DOES THE COMMUNITY REALLY WANT TO SEE HERE? WHAT IS THE BEST USE OF THIS BUILDING? IF WE WERE TO DO ANY TYPE OF INTERIOR RENOVATION, WHAT WOULD THAT BEFORE? WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ENTIRE CORNER AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS. THE THINGS THEY WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT. THE ENTRANCE INTO THE PEACOCK ARTS DISTRICT AND IF YOU GO TO THE NORTH, LINCOLN PARKS DISTRICT. INSTEAD OF PEACE KNEELING IT, LET'S LOOK AT IT COMPREHENSIVELY. THE MARKET STUDY IS PART OF IT. WHAT MAKES SENSE HERE AS A WHOLE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT? WHAT DOES THE COMMUNITY WANT TO SEE? MASTER PLAN THIS ENTIRE PROJECT. GREEN SPACE WITH PARKS AND EVENTS MENU. THE ARTS MOVING, THE SEVEN 
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GABLES HOUSE RENOVATION. LET'S RE-ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY AND LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE OTHER FACTORS AND WHAT THE ENTIRE SCOPE ENTAILS. LET ME GO TO THAT SLIDE, THIS IS SIMILAR IN ESSENCE TO THE WESTERN PENINSULA THAT WE JUST EMBARKED UPON. THIS GOES FURTHER BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ACTUAL BUILDING WE ARE LOOKING AT. WE HAVE A PROJECT KICKOFF, TONS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, SIMILAR TO THE MARINA PARK RIGHT NOW. THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS A KEY ASPECT OF LOOKING AT THE CONDITION, WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE? IS IT ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER, IT IS ONLY LOCALLY REGISTERED OR JUST TO THE STATE. LOOKING AT ALL OF THOSE RESOURCES AND GETTING THAT REPORT, THAT IS HOW WE CAN APPLY FOR GRANTS FOR THE REST OF THE RENOVATION IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DECIDE TO DO. THE FEASIBILITY STUDY, THAT IS SO IMPORTANT TO DO. AS PROPERTY OWNERS, WHAT REALLY DOES MAKE THE MOST SENSE HERE? THAT IS GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL. 
          CONCEPTION ALL MASTER PLANNING, ALL THE DIFFERENT PIECES. THEY WILL COME BACK TO US AND GIVE US A FEW OPTIONS AND DELVE INTO THAT FURTHER BASED ON YOUR FEEDBACK. AND ULTIMATELY COME UP WITH A CONCEPTUAL MASTER PLAN. AS WE ARE BREAKING UP PART OF THESE REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, CONCEPTUAL, LET'S TAKE THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN AS AN EXAMPLE. WE HAD THIS IN 2021, A BUNCH OF PROJECTS CAME FROM THAT. THE FESTIVAL STREET, MARINA PARK AND OTHERS. NOW WE ARE MOVING INTO DESIGN. 100% DRAWINGS. TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSTRUCTION AND MOVE INTO THAT PHRASE. THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE OLD SAINT ANASTASIA ENTIRE SITE MASTER PLAN. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE GETTING FOR THAT MONEY. 
          LET ME GO BACK HERE TO THAT SLIDE. NO. I'M A BIT OUT OF ORDER. THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT PHASES, IT WILL BE A LONG PROJECT. WE LOOK FORWARD TO ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY AGAIN. 
          EVERY TIME I AM AT THAT BUILDING TAKING PICTURES OR DOING A SITE INSPECTION, SOMEONE STOPS AND SAYS, I WENT TO SCHOOL THERE. IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO EVERYONE IN FORT PIERCE WITH HOW WE MOVE FORWARD. LET'S BE CALCULATED ABOUT HOW WE DO IT. THE EXTERIOR WAS DIFFERENT. WE WERE MAKING IT LOOK BEAUTIFUL AND RESTORING IT. 
          IF WE GOING TO THE INSIDE, CLASSROOMS, BATHROOMS, HVAC , A.D.A. IS A BIG FACTOR. THERE IS NO ELEVATOR IN THE BUILDING. ALL OF THESE THINGS TO CONSIDER. ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, I'M 
          SORRY. >> MY COMMENTARY TO THE COMMISSION IS THAT I HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TOUR THIS BUILDING. KEEP IN MIND, MY DAY JOB IS RENOVATION OF PROPERTIES. 
          THIS BUILDING IS ONE OF THE POOREST CONDITIONS OF ANY BUILDING THAT I HAVE EVER BEEN INVOLVED WITH. THE PRIOR TENANT THAT WAS IN THERE DID MASSIVE, DESTRUCTIVE, RENOVATION, THEY TORE EVERYTHING OUT AND WALKED ON THE PROJECT. IT IS TRASHED. 
          THERE IS NO BETTER TERM FOR IT THAN THAT. I AM NOT FAULTING ANYBODY, THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING IS GORGEOUS. IT IS LIKE HAVING CANCER. YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS TAKING PLACE ON THE INSIDE. IT IS ROUGH. MY CONCERN, THE INVESTMENT OF $125,000 TO COME UP WITH A CONCEPT PLAN FOR WHAT TO DO WITH THIS BUILDING, THE BEST EXPENDITURE OF FUNDS WE COULD SUGGEST WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AT THIS POINT TIME. 
          ELECTRICAL, HVAC AND PLUMBING, THERE IS NONE, THERE IS NOTHING. 
          TO RECONSTRUCT THIS BUILDING IS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, IN MY OPINION. THERE ARE NO BENCHMARKS HERE. IS THE INVESTMENT TO COME UP WITH WHAT THE WISH LIST IS FOR WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THIS ON THE NEXT STEP IS TO GET ESTIMATES BASED ON THE PLANS GENERATED FOR THIS. TO BID FOR THE RENOVATION WORK, IS THAT THE QUANTUM LEAP? WE NEED TO CONSCIOUSLY MAKE THAT DECISION. 
          YES, THAT IS WHERE WE ARE GOING WITH THIS. WE COMMIT $125,000 TODAY, IN THEORY, WITH THE EXPECTATION WE ARE COMMITTING MILLIONS, AFTER THIS IS DONE. THAT IS MY CONCERN. 
          >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? OH, COMMISSIONER GAINES? 
          >> WHEN I SAW THE NUMBER, IT STUCK OUT TO ME TOO. IF WE GO 
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BACK TO THE NIGHT WE APPROVED HALF $1 MILLION TO FIX THIS OUTSIDE BUILDING, I SAID THAT NIGHT, OKAY, GUYS, IF WE SPEND THIS MONEY, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO OTHER THAN COME BACK AND SAY, WE HAVE A PRETTY BUILDING? I SAID IT THAT NIGHT. IT'S IN THE RECORD. NOW WE SPEND THAT MONEY, TO ME, WE HAVE ALREADY STARTED DIGGING THE RABBIT HOLE. WE NEED TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO RECOUP THAT MONEY AND DO WHATEVER WE CAN DO WITH THAT PROJECT. FOR SOME REASON WHEN I GO BY THAT AREA AND I TOLD CHEYENNE THIS, AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE, NAMES. LIKE I SAID THIS MORNING, IF YOU HAVE EVER BEEN TO THE ALAMO IN SAN ANTONIO, YOU LOOK AT ALL THE PICTURES ONLINE AND UNTIL YOU GO, YOU GO TO THE ALAMO, AND YOU GET THERE, YOU ARE LIKE, THIS IS IT? I AM JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU. YOU GET THERE AND GOING AROUND THE CORNER, AND YOU SAY, THIS IS IT? IT IS NOTHING BAD, PEOPLE WILL LOVE THE ALAMO, DO NOT EMAIL ME. THIS IS IT. HOW THE ALAMO AND THAT WHOLE AREA MAKES MONEY, BECAUSE IF YOU WALK ACROSS THE STREET, THEY HAVE TURNED THAT WILL PROPERTY AND AREA INTO A FAMILY ORIENTED DAY BECAUSE AFTER YOU WALK 20 MINUTES THROUGH THE ALAMO, YOU HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO AND YOU WALK ACROSS THE STREET, I WALK ACROSS THE STREET AND I BEING HONEST WITH YOU, WALK ACROSS THE STREET AND YOU CAN SPEND THE ENTIRE DAY THERE WITH YOUR FAMILY. WHAT BETTER PLACE, THEN RIGHT DOWNTOWN FOR THE KIDS TO COME TO, COMING INTO FORT PIERCE, IF YOU CONTINUE EAST, THERE IS THE ARTS DISTRICT TO THE SOUTH, EAST SOUTH, RIGHT? AND YOU MAKE A NORTH TURN, WHY NOT PUT OUR HAIRS TOGETHER AND SEE IF WE CAN TURN THIS PROPERTY INTO SOME KIND OF ENTERTAINMENT FOR FAMILIES TO SAY, HEY, I LIVE DOWNTOWN, LET'S WALK OVER TO, WHATEVER WE ARE GOING TO CALL IT. SAINT ANASTASIA, WHATEVER WE CALL IT, AND HAVE AN ICE CREAM ONE, LISTEN TO SOME READING OR WHATEVER, SOME TYPE OF ENTERTAINMENT FOR FAMILIES, WE CAN KEEP SOME GREEN SPACE AND MAKE IT A FAMILY ORIENTED ATTRACTION, TO GENERATE SOME TYPE OF FUNDS. I DO NOT WANT TO SEE ANY HOUSES THERE, YOU KNOW ME, I WILL TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNTIL THE COWS COME HOME. LET'S TAKE THIS, ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY WE HAVE ALREADY INVESTED. HALF $1 MILLION IN. LET'S SEE HOW WE CAN TURN THIS INTO SOMETHING, TO BENEFIT US. AS YOU SAID EARLIER, GENERATE THE REVENUE THAT WE CAN GENERATE FOR WHATEVER. THAT IS HOW I AM LOOKING AT THIS PROPERTY. 
          >> YOU HAVE MADE A GOOD PITCH. WE COMMITTED HALF 1 MILLION KNOWING THAT WAS THE START. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A COMFORT LEVEL FOR THIS BODY TO EXPEND $125,000 ON THIS ASPECT OF IT. THIS BETTER BE ONE KICK ASS REPORT. 
          >> I AGREE WITH YOU 100%. THIS COMES DOWN TO OUR REVISION AND DETERMINATION TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. 
          >> I AGREE. >> $125,000, I DO NOT HAVE HEARTBURN WITH THAT. IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE ARPA FUNDS? FPRA TAKES BLIGHTED PROPERTY AND HELPS THE CITY. MY EXPECTATION, I'M GLAD YOU HAVE THIS UP. AS I LOOK AT THIS, MY VISION IS THAT, THIS IS GOING TO ALLOW ME TO HAVE A DOCUMENT, THAT I CAN UTILIZE THE FACTS FROM THIS DOCUMENT AND PUT IN FRONT OF THE 
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WORLD AND SAY, SOME BILLIONAIRE, MILLIONAIRE, WANTS TO HELP DEVELOP THIS, THEY HAVE A ROAD MAP TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE WALKING INTO. THAT IS MY EXPECTATION. THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT THERE IS NO ELEVATOR AND IT IS NOT 88 -- A.D.A. COMPLIANT. 
          OUR USE WILL CHANGE. THAT IS A CHANGE OF USE. IT COMES INTO THINGS WHERE WE DO CHANGE OF USE IS ON THINGS. MY EXPECTATION, COMMISSIONERS, MADAME MAYOR, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS READY TO BUILD THAT RFP, WHEN IT GOES OUT, THEY WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO, TO INCLUDE THE VACANT PROPERTY. I AGREE, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, ARNOLD GAINES, NOT AN INTRUSIVE PART OF HOUSING, SOME CREATIVITY, SOMETHING WE CAN ADDRESS THE CHALLENGE NEEDED FOR FPRA, MAYBE IT IS MIXED-USE, I DO NOT KNOW. 
          WE HAVE A BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY. I AM MORE INCLINED TO UNDERSTAND HAVING THIS BUILDING AND ALL OF THIS PROPERTY AND GETTING THE IMAGINATION OF THE INVESTMENT WORLD TO GET EXCITED ABOUT THIS. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE DONE ON ORANGE AVENUE WITH RE-SERVICING AND HOW BEAUTIFUL IT WORKS ON COMING IN, THIS IS A TIED TO WHAT WE HAVE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT, INTO THE LINCOLN PARK AREA, THIS IS THE BRIDGE WAY. THIS IS WHAT I WANT. 
          COMMISSIONER, I HAVE NO HEARTBURN AT ALL. 
          >> I WILL JUST SAY, I SHARE MICHAEL BRODERICK'S CONCERNS. 
          HE GAVE ME FLASHBACKS . HAVING INVESTING MONEY AND NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WITH IT. IF YOU LOOK AT HOW MUCH THE CITY HAS SPENT ON THE BUILDING, WE ARE OVER HALF $1 MILLION. IT WAS $1 MILLION WHEN WE DID THE ROOF BACK 20 YEARS AGO, THEN THE WINDOWS AND ALL THAT. I FEEL LIKE, JUST SAYING FROM PEOPLE I TALKED TO, IT SEEMS THAT THERE IS A LOT OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR THIS BUILDING. EVERYONE IS CONSTANTLY SAYING, I WISH WE COULD USE IT FOR SOMETHING. I WISH SOMEONE WOULD TAKE THIS BEAUTIFUL BUILDING AND DO SOMETHING WITH IT. I WOULD RATHER SEE US TAKING THIS STEP AND SEEING AN ACTUAL PLAN FOR THAT THE CITIZENS HAVE INPUT INTO , THEN WE END UP SPENDING WAY MORE MONEY THAN WE WANT TO WITH NO PLAN. THIS MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. IT SUCKS THAT IT COST SO MUCH. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AT. I HAVE BEEN REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE PLACE MAKING, WAS BEEN DOING THE DOWNTOWN. THE INFORMATION GATHERING OR WHATEVER. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM INVOLVED IN THIS IN SOME WAY. THEY HAVE DONE REALLY A GOOD JOB IN GATHERING INFORMATION AND BEING CREATIVE ABOUT THINGS AND MAKING SOMETHING WE CAN BE HAPPY WITH. 
          >> YOU MENTIONED R.E.G., THEY GAVE US -- ON THE LINCOLN THEATER A FEW YEARS BACK. THAT IS THEIR SPECIALTY. HISTORIC 
          PRESERVATION? >> YES. 
          >> I WILL GO OUT ON A LIMB HERE. THIS IS ON THE NATIONAL HISTORIC REGISTRY. ST. LUCIE COUNTY, THE BUILDINGS, BEEN THIS IS IT. 
          >> SOMEONE JUST MENTIONED IT TO ME OTHERWISE. 
          >> OBVIOUSLY, I WILL GO OUT ON A LIMB AND SAY, I THINK IT IS. I HAVE HAD PEOPLE SAY, THIS BUILDING IS SO GORGEOUS. DO NOT TEAR IT DOWN. HONESTLY, I WILL JUST CONFESS TO EVERYBODY, SO, WHERE WILL WE FIND THE MONEY. WHO IS GOING TO SPEND THE MONEY TO BE ABLE TO OCCUPY IT? IT IS A BEAUTIFUL AND HISTORIC WHITE ELEPHANT. IT HAS FOND MEMORIES FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND I KNOW. I HAVE HAD PEOPLE TALK TO ME ABOUT THE SEVEN GABLES HOUSE. ARE YOU GOING TO TEAR IT DOWN? HOW MUCH DOES IT COST TO MAINTAIN THE SEVEN GABLES HOUSE? THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SAVE HISTORIC BUILDINGS. WHEN THE 
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BILL COMES, WHAT? IT DOES NOT STOP WITH WHAT YOU DO. WHEN YOU RESTORE OLD BUILDINGS, THINGS DON'T GET YOUNGER, THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. HAVING SAID ALL OF THAT, WE HAVE GOT THIS BUILDING THAT WE INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY IN THAT THE COMMUNITY REALLY LOVES, HAVING NO IDEA WHAT COST THERE WILL BE TO PUT IT TO GOOD USE. WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS, AT LEAST WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY. AT LEAST WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          >> THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN AFTERTHOUGHT, WE WILL USE IT FOR PARKING. DO WE WANT SURFACE PARKING ON THE CORE DOOR? 
          >> I'M HAPPY THAT SOMEBODY USES IT. I THINK THAT IS GREAT. SO, THIS IS WHAT THE FPRA IS FOR. AND AS WE SAID, THAT IS AN IMPORTANT CORNER. EVEN THOUGH I AM STILL STUCK WITH THAT BUILDING, ANYONE OUTSIDE OF THIS CHAMBER, WOULD SAY, WHAT? IT IS A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING, YOU ARE NOT STUCK WITH IT, IT IS WONDERFUL. OKAY, HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU HAVE? COME GET IT. 
          >> TELL THEM TO GET THEIR CHECKBOOKS OUT. 
          >> NOT RIGHT. >> ANYWAY, THAT IS HOW I FEEL 
          ABOUT IT. >> MADAME MAYOR, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM A. YOU KNOW I HAVE A CRITICAL EYE FOR ALL OF THESE RENOVATION PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD. 
          >> THAT IS YOUR MOTION. >> SECOND. 
          >> CALLED THE ROLL PLEASE. >> 
          [b.  Approve recommendation from the Arts and Culture Advisory Board seeking approval of the purchase of four (4) Anita Prentice mosaic benches utilizing Arts in Public Places funds for the Highwaymen Museum in an amount not to exceed $12,000.]
ITEM IS APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE ARTS ADVISORY BOARD SEEKING APPROVAL OF THE PURCHASE OF FOUR (4) ANITA PRENTICE MOSAIC BENCHES UTILIZING ARTS IN PUBLIC PLACES FUNDS FOR THE HIGHWAYMEN MUSEUM IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 
          $12,000. >> MICHAEL BRODERICK. 
          >> I PULLED THIS. I WILL NOT GO DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE ON WHY. YOU KNOW MY CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROJECT. AN ADDITIONAL $12,000 WE ARE ALLOCATING FOR BENCHES TO BE USED IN THE PARKING LOT AREA OF THE BUILDING. THE PARKING LOT IS NOT RENOVATED. I AM NOT QUESTIONING THE ALLOCATION OF THE FUNDS FROM THAT PARTICULAR ACCOUNT. WE KNOW WHAT THOSE FUNDS ARE DESIGNATED FOR. I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT. AGAIN, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE OVERALL SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT. WISH ADDITIONAL CHANGE IS COMING IN, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT IS BEING PLACED ON THAT LIST FOR $12,000 AMONGST TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF DOWN THE PIKE THAT I KNOW KICKING DOWN CITY HALL HAVE RECEIVED CRITIQUE FROM STAFF AND KICK BACK OUT TO CLEAN UP OF THAT. HOWEVER, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS DONE IN A PROPER FASHION AND THE CRITICAL PATH OF WHEN THESE THINGS ARE ACTUALLY NEEDED THERE IS DEALT WITH FROM A MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE AND WE ARE NOT DROPPING OFF THESE GORGEOUS BENCHES TO A DUSTBOWL OF A PARKING LOT THAT NEEDS TO BE DEMOED AND RESET WITH ASPHALT. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, WHO IS MANAGING THIS ASPECT OF THIS TO BE SURE THAT THE DELIVERY IS APPROPRIATE FOR WHAT WE ARE DOING IN THE RENOVATION PROCESS. 
          >> NO BENCHES IN THE DUSTBOWL. >> AUDREY MOORE, SPECIAL PROJECTS COORDINATOR. NO, THE BENCHES WILL NOT BE DROPPED OFF. 
          I HAVE A MEETING WITH THE ARTIST WHO IS GOING TO BE CREATING THESE BENCHES. SHE IS HERE, FOR JUST THAT, TO DO THAT FOR US. 
          ONCE THEY ARE READY TO BE PLACED, THEY WILL BE PLACED AND 
          NO TIME SOONER. >> JUST AS LONG AS IT IS BEING PROPERLY MANAGED AND THAT IS MY MAIN CONCERN. HEARING NO OTHER COMMENTARY, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          >> 
          ARTWORK ON THOSE BENCHES TOO. >> THEY ARE ALL OVER THE CITY, THEY ARE A TREASURE. THEY TRULY ARE. IF WE COULD KEEP A CLOSER EYE ON THIS PROJECT. GETTING INTO THE END ZONE HERE, GUYS. 
          [a.  Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Ordinance 25-014 - Review and approval of a Zoning Map Amendment by applicant Franco Prado to change the zoning of one (1) parcel of land from Residential Single-Family - Three Units Per Acre, E-3, to Planned Development, PD at 1038 S. 37th Street, more specifically at Parcel ID: 2417-213-0001-000-7 - FIRST READING.]
          >> ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. >> ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE CAN 
          MOVE ON. >> NEXT UP IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL 
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          HEARING . >> WILL BE READING THE PROCEDURES FOR ALL OF THE QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING'S HERE 
          TONIGHT? >> PAY ATTENTION TO THE PROCEDURES FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY. 
          >> THE CITY COMMISSION SERVES A LEGISLATIVE AND QUASIJUDICIAL ROLL. WHEN ACTING AS A TRAIN 27 BODY, THE COMMISSION APPLIES THOSE POLICIES AND ADHERES TO STRICTER REQUIREMENTS. THEY ARE MORE FORMAL THAN THE NORMAL COMMISSION MEETING. 27 PROCEEDINGS MUST HAVE NOTICE OF DUE PROCESS AND DECISIONS MUST BE MADE ON SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. THERE FOR, COMMISSIONERS HAVE A DUTY TO CONDUCT THE QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS MORE LIKE JUDGES THAN LEGISLATORS. THE COMMISSION HAS ESTABLISHED THE PROCEDURES FOR QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED THIS EVENING. FINALLY, NO ONE SHOULD APPROACH A NUMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION, THE DAIS OR CITY CLERK DURING THE HEARING. IF DOCUMENTS ARE TO BE GIVEN TO THE CITY CLERK GIVE THEM TO THE SERGEANT AT ARMS WHICH IS ANY OF THE POLICE 
          OFFICERS IN THE CHAMBER. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW ALL THESE PROCEEDINGS WILL BE CALLED TO ORDER. CITY CLERK, HAVE WE MET THE NOTICE WITH ADVERTISING? 
          >> ADVERTISING HAS BEEN MET FOR THIS ITEM. 
          >> WILL YOU ASK COMMISSIONERS ABOUT X PARTAKE COMMUNICATIONS, 
          PLEASE? >> MICHAEL BRODERICK? I MET WITH 
          A DEVELOPER TWICE. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES? 
          >> I MET WITH A DEVELOPER. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? 
          >> I MET WITH A DEVELOPER . >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR? 
          >> I MET WITH A DEVELOPER. >> COMMISSIONER HUDSON? 
          >> I HAVE NOT MET WITH ANYONE. WILL YOU SWEAR AND THE 
          WITNESSES? >> ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE 
          TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? >> ALL RIGHT. SO, WHEN THE TIME COMES FOR YOU TO COME FORWARD, STATES THAT YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. THE CITY STAFF WILL NOW MAKE A PRESENTATION ON THIS AND YOU HAVE 20 MINUTES, EXCLUDING ANY KINDS OF QUESTIONS OR COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE COMMISSION. 
          >> MADAME MAYOR, CITY COMMISSION, TO INTRODUCE THIS, I WILL INTRODUCE THIS SO EVERYTHING GOES ON RECORD. MY NAME IS KEVIN FREEMAN, I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS. I HAVE MY EDUCATION, WHICH INCLUDES A PURSE GRADUATE DIPLOMA IN PLANNING FROM SHEFFIELD, HIGH NATIONAL CERTIFICATE IN LAND USE FROM BASSFORD. A CERTIFICATE IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION. I HAVE BEEN A PROFESSIONAL PLANNER FOR OVER 35 YEARS. 18 OF THOSE YEARS, I HAVE BEEN PRACTICING IN THE TREASURE COAST AREA. PARTICULARLY IN ZONING AND FUTURE LAND USE. I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THIS PRESENTATION, AS PART OF THE RECORD. SO, TODAY, WE ARE DEALING WITH A REZONING APPLICATION FOR A MASTER SITE PLAN. IT IS AT 1038 S. 37TH STREET IN FORT PIERCE. THE APPLICANT IS RTIN AND FRANCO PRADO. ADDRESS, 1038 S. 37TH STREET. PARCEL I.D. IS 2417-213-0001-000-7 . IN SUMMARY, THE REQUEST IS FOR THE REVIEW OF THE APPLICATION FOR A ZONING AMENDMENT OF ONE PARCEL OF LAND, TO CHANGE THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY WHICH HAS A DENSITY OF THREE UNITS PER ACRE 
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TO A MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT ANNOTATED PD. THE REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING IS TO ACCOMMODATE A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT COMPRISING OF 60 RESIDENTIAL UNITS WITH A DENSITY OF 11.4 UNITS PER ACRE. THE FUTURE LAND USE ALLOWS 6.5 UNITS PER ACRE. THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE A FIVE UNIT PER ACRE DENSITY BONUS AS ALLOWED BY THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          SHOULD THIS APPLICATION BE GRANTED, AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PD WILL BE REQUIRED PRIOR TO APPLICATION FOR PERMITS. I WANT TO GO THROUGH THE APPLICATION OF REVIEW AGAIN TO THE TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE EXTERNAL AND INTERNAL AGENCIES, THE WINNING DEPARTMENT, THE PLANNING BOARD AND ALSO THE CITY COMMISSION. THE SITE LOCATION IS EAST OF 37TH STREET, WEST OF 33RD STREET AND NORTH OF OKEECHOBEE ROAD. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE CITY LIMITS MAP, THE DARKER AREAS ARE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. THIS PROPERTY IS PART OF THE ENCLAVE WHICH IN THE FUTURE, YOU WOULD EXPECT MOST OF THE PROPERTIES IN THE WHITE TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THE CITY LIMITS. THE EXISTING ZONING IS ZONED E3 WHICH IS A STATE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY. TO THE NORTH, IT IS ALL ONE. WE HAVE COMMERCIAL TO THE EAST, NORTH AND SOUTH AND IN THE COUNTY, IT IS PRIMARILY TO THE EAST, THE COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH COMMERCIAL GENERAL, COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD UTILITIES TO THE SOUTH AND THE YELLOW AREAS ARE RESIDENTIAL. NOW, THE FUTURE LAND USE, WHEN I PUT BOTH OF THOSE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND COUNTY FUTURE LAND USES TOGETHER, WE SEE THE PRIMARY LAND-USE DESIGNATION ON 33RD STREET TO THE EAST, IS COMMERCIAL OR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. THE LAND USES ON 37TH STREET ARE PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. SO IF THE COMMISSION CAN RECALL, WE RECENTLY REVIEWED AND REVISED THE PD APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS, THIS FALLS INTO THE MASTER PD WHICH HAS LESS REQUIREMENTS AND LESS STRINGENCY OF THAT REQUIREMENT BECAUSE, TO MOVE FORWARD, TO BUILD OR DEVELOP THIS SITE, WOULD NEED AN APPLICATION FOR A FINAL PD, WHERE ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT IS REQUESTED AT THIS STAGE AND REQUIRED BY CITY CODE, WOUL IS THE MASTER SITE PLAN. THE UNITS ARE SHOWN IN PURPLE. STONE WATER RETENTION, OPEN SPACE, TWO ACCESS POINTS OFF OF SOUTH 37TH STREET. IN TERMS OF DESIGN REVIEW, THE CITY ARE ESSENTIALLY NOT PERMITTED TO REVIEW ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS UNDER THE STATE STATUTE FOR SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT HAS, AS PART OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, PROVIDED ARCHITECTURAL CONFIGURATIONS WHICH WILL BECOME PART OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL. AND WILL BE HELD TO THIS APPROVAL. SO, TWO HOME CONFIGURATIONS, IN ESSENCE, A TWO-STORY DUPLEX TYPE ARRANGEMENT. AND THEN WE HAVE FOUR HOME CONFIGURATIONS WHICH ARE, IN ESSENCE, TOWNHOMES. SO, STAFF AND THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDS 14 CONDITIONS TO BE ATTACHED TO APPROVE THE MASTER PD AND I WILL GO THROUGH THOSE. 
          A FINAL PD SHOULD GO FORWARD PRIOR TO ANY DEVELOPMENT 
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ACTIVITIES DEVELOPED BY THE MASTER SITE PLAN PROJECT -- DATED 2024. 926. THE FINAL PD WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES, NOW THAT ENTAILS COMPLETE CONFORMANCE WITH THE CITY CODE IN RELATION TO A FINAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION OR THE DOCUMENTATIONS THAT WOULD REQUIRE. FINAL DESIGN PLANS, FINAL CONCEPTUAL DRAINAGE AND STORMWATER PLANS AND TRAFFIC STUDIES, COMPLETE WITH THE IMPACTS OF THOSE DEVELOPMENT ON THE NEIGHBORING STREETS, THE FINAL SITE PLAN SUBMITTAL SHALL INCLUDE THE WETLAND JURISDICTION SURVEY PRIOR TO SUBMITTAL OF THE FINAL PD SITE PLAN WILL BE CARRIED OUT ON-SITE. A STORMWATER AND DRAINAGE PLAN AND STATEMENT WILL BE SUBMITTED AT THE FINAL APPLICATION. THE FINAL PD SITE PLAN WILL BE UNIFIED CONTROL AND OWNERSHIP WITH LAND INCLUDED IN THE DEVELOPMENT, SHOULD BE IN THE LEGAL CONTROL OF THE APPLICANT. THE FINAL SITE PLAN WILLING TO THE GENERAL DESCRIPTION OF THE BUILDINGS AND STREETSCAPES INCLUDING STANDARDS FOR HEIGHT, BUILDING COVERAGE, PARKING AREAS AND PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS, POSED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE HIGHWAY, SCHOOL BUS STOP IF REQUIRED, AND ALSO ANY EVENT IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL BE NEEDED TO BE NOTATED ON SITE. THE FINAL PD SITE PLAN WILL INCLUDE QUANTITATIVE DATA FOR THE PARCEL SIZES, LOT COVERAGE OF BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES, TOTAL AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE. THE MASTER PD SITE PLAN DOES INCLUDE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION. WE WANT TO REITERATE IT ON THE MASTER. SO IT IS SECURED ON THE MASTER FINAL SITE PLAN. THE FINAL PD SITE PLAN WILL INCLUDE ALL AGREEMENTS AND GOVERNANCE FOR THE USE, MAINTENANCE AND CONTINUED PROTECTION OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND ANY OF ITS OPEN SPACE OR OTHER SHARED AREAS. 
          THIS WILL INCLUDE MATERIAL THAT BINDS SUCCESS AND TITLE TO ANY COMMITMENTS CONCERNING COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT AND MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION. THE FINAL PD SITE PLAN WILL CONTAIN THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION. THIS IS LISTED IN THE CITY CODE AND REITERATES THAT REQUIREMENT WITH THE LANDSCAPE AND IRRIGATION PLAN. OF THE CITY ORDINANCE, PROPOSED LOT LINES AND ANY DIVISION OF LAND FOR ALLOCATION PURPOSES, THE LOCATION, SIGNS, OF PRESENT AND PROPOSED BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES, THE PROPOSED VEHICULAR CIRCULATION SYSTEM INCLUDING OFFSTREET PARKING AND LOADING AREAS, THE PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION SYSTEM INCLUDING INTERRELATIONSHIPS WITH PARTICULAR CIRCULATION SYSTEM WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT TO ADJACENT STREETS SHOWING CURB CUTS AND SIDEWALKS ALONG 37TH STREET. THE EXISTING PROPOSED UTILITY SYSTEMS INCLUDING SANITARY SEWERS, STORM SEWERS AND WATER, ELECTRIC, AND GAS LINES. ANY REQUIRED SIDEWALK OR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS TO SOUTH 37TH STREET SHALL BE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE FINAL PD SITE PLAN PROCESS. THAT COMMENT WAS CONFIRMED BY ST. LUCIE COUNTY IN THEIR RESPONSE TO THIS APPLICATION FOR A MASTER PD SITE PLAN. THE PROPERTY SHALL BE PLATTED WITH ANY VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION -- ANY STATE OR FEDERAL PERMITS SHALL BE OBTAINED BEFORE COMMENCEMENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS MORE OF A NOTE. WE HAVE ATTACHED IT AS A CONDITION. THE ISSUANCE OF ANY DEVELOPMENT PERMIT OR ORDER BY A MUNICIPALITY, CITY OF FORT PIERCE, DOES NOT CREATE ANY RIGHT ON THE PART OF THE APPLICANT TO CREATE A PERMIT FROM A STATE OR FEDERAL AGENCY, AND DOES NOT CREATE ANY LIABILITY ON THE PART OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FOR ISSUANCE OF THE PERMIT IF THE APPLICANT FAILS TO OBTAIN REQUISITE APPROVALS OR FULFILL THE OBLIGATIONS IMPOSED BY STATE OR FEDERAL AGENCIES OR UNDERTAKE ACTIONS THAT RESULT IN THE VIOLATION OF STATE OR FEDERAL LAW. NOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE AN INTRAVENOUS. I WANT TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION AS PART OF THIS PRESENTATION THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE CITY COMMISSION TO APPROVE THE MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND SITE PLAN SUBJECT TO THE 14 CONDITIONS AS NOTED. THERE ARE 
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ALTERNATIVE RECOMMENDATIONS WITH ALTERNATIVE OR ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS AND THE CITY COMMISSION CAN REPRESENT DISAPPROVAL. WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WHICH I FOUND OUT TODAY THAT WE HAD AN INTRAVENOUS AND THE QUESTIONS WITHIN THE PACKET, I WOULD LIKE TO FIND ADDITIONAL INFO. IT DOES SAY THAT THE PROPOSAL IS NOT WITHIN A QUARTER OF A MILE OF THE TRANSIT STOP. WHEN WE ANALYZE THESE FROM STAFF POINT OF VIEW, THERE IS NO INSTRUCTION IF YOU LIKE IN CODE OF HOW IT IS MEASURED. WE APPLY A RADIUS TO THE PROPERTY AND INSPECT IF THERE ARE ANY TRANSIT STOPS WITHIN THAT RADIUS. WE USE A SIMILAR PROCESS FOR OTHER MEASUREMENTS FROM A SITE LOCATION. IF THE CITY COMMISSION WOULD WANT TO HAVE THAT MEASURED DIFFERENTLY, THERE ARE NO REQUIREMENTS IN THE CITY CODE OF HOW THAT IS MEASURED. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THAT IS HOW WE DO MEASUREMENTS TO ANY PROPERTY IN THE CITY. THE INTERVIEW KNOW WILL SHOW THAT A WALKING ROUTE IS A QUARTER OF A MILE FROM THAT TO STOP. ALSO, THE LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR ROADWAYS, THE CITIES CURRENT ASSESSMENT ASSESSES THAT WE LOOK AT ROADWAYS AND APPLY THE MINIMUM LEVEL OF SERVICES TO ROADWAYS IN THE CITY. THAT IS ANALYZED THROUGH THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ASSESSMENT ANALYSIS WHICH WILL BE FULLY ANALYZED AT FINAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT IS REALLY MY PRESENTATION . I AM OPEN FOR QUESTIONS. 
          >> THIS IS A CHANCE TO ASK STAFF QUESTIONS. IT IS KIND OF YOUR 
          LAST CHANCE. GO FOR IT. >> THE DENSITY BONUS THAT YOU MENTIONED AT THE BIG -- BEGINNING, IS THAT A QUARTER-MILE FROM THE TRANSIT STOP? MAYBE THAT IS IN THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN, THAT IS THE NUMBER OF CRITERIA AND IT IS ESSENTIALLY ESTABLISHED BY BEING A QUARTER OF A MILE OF THAT. 
          >> IS THAT THE ONLY CRITERIA? >> THIS IS HOW IT QUALIFIES. 
          >> I UNDERSTAND GO TO OF MEASURING IT AS THE CROW FLIES, BASED ON LOTS OF OTHER MEASUREMENTS THAT WE MAKE WHEN WE ARE DOING THESE TYPES OF PLANS, I BELIEVE, CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, THAT THERE IS NO PHYSICAL CONNECTION FROM THAT 
          PROPERTY TO THE TRANSIT STOP. >> THAT IS CORRECT. ANY PERSON WISHING TO GET TO THAT TRANSIT STOP WOULD GO NORTH OR SOUTH ON 37TH AND GO EAST. AND THEN GO NORTH AGAIN. FROM MY RECOLLECTION, WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED IS PROBABLY HALF A 
          MILE. >> THE CRITERIA AND DENSITY BONUS IS PRECISELY A QUARTER-MILE? I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD INITIALLY GET TO THAT MEASUREMENT. THIS MEASUREMENT IS REFERRING TO WALKING DISTANCE, I WOULD THINK. IT IS THE ABILITY OF THE RESIDENT TO BE ABLE TO WALK TO THE TRANSIT STOP WHICH IS WHY THEY GET THE DENSITY BONUS. IN THIS INSTANCE, IT IS HARD TO MEASURE IT THAT WAY AS THE CODE FLASHES BECAUSE THEY DO NOT MEASURE THAT WAY. MY SPECIFIC OPINION IS THAT IT SHOULD BE MEASURED BY WALKING DISTANCE AND ACCESSIBILITY TO THAT TRANSIT STOP BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING. I WILL WAIT TO HEAR WHAT THE OTHER INTERVENERS HAVE TO SAY AND MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. THAT IS JUST MY 
          COMMENT ON THAT FOR NOW. >> WHO IS NEXT? COMMISSIONER 
          BRODERICK? >> CAN WE GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN, PLEASE? I AM JUST CURIOUS, IS A LOT COVERAGE RATIO ANALYSIS 
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DONE HERE? THIS IS A DENSE DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS TRACK OF LAND. IT APPEARS TO ME AS THOUGH WE HAVE A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF 
          LOT COVERAGE WITH STRUCTURE. >> THE LOT COVERAGE ANALYSIS IS WELL UNDER WHAT IS ALLOWED ON THIS PROPERTY. 
          >> MY SECOND QUESTION IS PERTAINING TO STORMWATER MITIGATION. THE CALCULATIONS FOR STORMWATER MITIGATION, EVERYTHING IS CONTAINED ON SITE? 
          >> EVERYTHING HAS TO BE CONTAINED ON-SITE, FOR TREATMENT. THEN THEY CAN GO TO THE OUTFALL OR SOMETHING AFTERWARDS AFTER TREATMENT. I WILL BE FULLY ANALYZED AT FINAL 
          PLAN DEVELOPMENT. >> YOU HAVE TO HAVE ENGINEERING PLANS TO INDICATE TO YOUR FOLKS IN THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT THAT THEY MET THE STORM WATER REQUIREMENTS FOR ON-SITE 
          MITIGATION AND DISCHARGE? >> YES. 
          >> THANK YOU, THAT IS ALL I HAD. 
          >> GO BACK TO THE QUESTION THAT SHOWED THE BUS TRANSIT STOP THERE AND I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION TO MAKE SURE. SO, THIS WHOLE MEASURED DISTANCE, UNDERSTANDING THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS IN THE STATE STATUTE THAT ALLOWS IT BY THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. THIS, WHATEVER THIS IS HERE, I SEE THE RED BOX, THERE IS A WALKWAY. THAT IS NOT PHYSICALLY A PART OF THE PRESENTATION, RIGHT? THAT AREA RIGHT IN THERE, NO ACCESS, THAT IS SOMEONE ELSE'S PRIVATE PROPERTY, CORRECT? 
          >> RIGHT AWAY, BY THAT PART OF THE PROPERTY. 
          >> I WAS LOOKING AT THAT, THE ROUGH DRAFT OF THE SUBMITTAL, IT LOOKED LIKE EVERYTHING WAS SO CONTAINED, NO ACCESS THROUGH BACK GATES OR ANYTHING. TECHNICALLY TO NAVIGATE TO THIS AREA TO GET TO THE BUS STOP, SOMEONE WILL HAVE TO WALK NORTH OR SOUTH ON THIS ROAD. THEN WE WILL NOT KNOW SIDEWALKS UNTIL 
          THE FINAL PLAT COMES IN? >> WE WILL ALLOW IT ON THE FRONTAGE. I AM AWARE THAT SIDEWALKS DO NOT EXIST FURTHER 
          ALONG 37TH. >> IF THEY WERE TO WALK, THEY CAN WALK IN THE FRONTAGE IN FRONT OF HERE BUT THEY GET CLOSER TO PETERSON ROAD AND THEY ARE WALKING A LITTLE BIT IN THE ROAD? AND THEN IF THEY COME ALL THE WAY UP, RIGHT WAY ROAD, IF THEY WALK SOUTH? THROUGH THERE AS WELL, CORRECT? I KNOW 37TH IS PAVED, IT IS A PAVED ROAD THERE. TWO DIRT ROADS. BUT TO THE FPUA IS OUT THERE ? MAYBE IT IS. I NOT KNOW IF THERE IS SOME CHALLENGE BASED ON HOW YOU UGLY THE DISTANCE THROUGH SOME ORDINANCE, HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT PART. WHAT TRIGGERS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR EXTRA DENSITY? THAT WOULD HELP ME, THANK YOU. 
          >> FOR THE POLICY AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I WILL READ THAT OUT. POLICY 117. IT IS A SIMPLE SENTENCE. THE CITY WILL ALLOW A DENSITY BONUS OF FIVE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE ABOVE THE MAXIMUM PERMITTED DENSITY FOR DEVELOPMENTS LOCATED WITHIN A QUARTER-MILE OF A REAL STATION, MULTIMODAL TRANSIT CENTER OR TRANSIT STOP. IN THIS CASE, THERE IS A TRANSIT STOP IN THE VICINITY AND THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO WE MEASURE THAT? 
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          >> NEW MEASURED IT BY SOMETHING YOU CALLED CROWS? 
          >> HOW MANY FEET OR MILES AWAY IS IT FROM THE NEAREST POINT OF THAT PROPERTY? THERE ARE NO INSTRUCTIONS IN THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN OR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS THAT GIVE US -- FOR INSTANCE, WHEN WE DO BUFFERS FOR CONSULTATIONS, WE USE THE 500 
          FEET FROM ANY POINT. >> THAT IS THE CIRCLE YOU DREW ON THE MAP THERE THAT SHOWS THAT THIS IS THE RADIUS THAT IT HAS TO BE A NEW SHOWED THAT THE BUS STOP IS IS IN THAT RADIUS AREA? 
          THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES? 
          >> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, MAYBE I ZONED OUT BECAUSE IT IS A LONG DAY. I JUST HAVE TO ASK ONE QUESTION, MR. FRIEDMAN, WHAT IS BEFORE US NOW, YOU'RE ASKING US TO VOTE TO CHANGE ZONING. THAT VOTE THEN ENTITLES THE DEVELOPER TO GO OUT AND TRY TO SECURE THESE 14 CONDITIONS. IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT IF WE SAY YES TONIGHT, YOU CAN START BUILDING TOMORROW. HE HAS TO GO DO THESE 14 CONDITIONS WHICH, NUMBER 12 MIGHT SAY NO. SOMEBODY COULD SAY NO. THAT STOPS THE PROJECT. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THIS IS WHAT WE ARE VOTING ON. VOTING ON A CHANGE OF ZONING AND HE HAS TO GO OUT AND DO EVERYTHING ON THE 14 CONDITIONS OR ANY OTHER CONDITION THAT THIS BOARD PUTS ON THEM TO DO. WE HAD TALKS ABOUT WALKING TO THE TRANSIT STATION. IF THE BOARD REQUIRES, COME BACK AND GIVE US SOME TYPE OF PATHWAY TO THIS TRANSIT STATION, THAT IS A CONDITION THAT WE CAN PUT ON TO SEE IF HE 
          CAN DO IT. >> ABSOLUTELY. 
          >> THAT IS WHAT I'M VOTING ON TONIGHT, IF WE VOTE FOR HIM TO DO THE 14, TO BRING IT BACK TO US, YES, THIS IS WHAT EVERYBODY 
          SAID. >> CORRECT. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> BACK TO THE CONDITION OF THE ROAD, 37TH STREET, THAT IS A VERY PRIMITIVE ROAD. ONE OF THE CONDITIONS IS THAT ST. LUCIE COUNTY IS GOING TO MAKE THEM IMPROVE THE ROAD FROM OKEECHOBEE ROAD? 
          >> ON A FINAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT, THAT WILL BE GETTING EVERYTHING IN PLACE. THE COUNTY WILL THEN REVIEW THE FINAL TRAFFIC IMPACT. 
          THERE WILL BE A FULL ANALYSIS WITH THAT. WITH THE ROADWAY , NOT HAVING SIDEWALKS ON THERE, IT MAY NOT BE THE REQUIRED WITH OF ROADWAY FOR THE COUNTY OF THEY ARE CONSIDERING IMPROVING IT IN THE FUTURE. IT WOULD BE THEM TO COME BACK AND NEGOTIATE WITH THE APPLICANT, BASED ON THEIR TRAFFIC IMPACT. AND THROUGH THAT REQUEST, REQUIRING IMPROVEMENTS TO 37TH STREET. 
          >> I THINK I KNOW WHERE COMMISSIONER TAYLOR IS TALKING ABOUT, IF YOU ARE COUNTING THE TRAFFIC AND TRANSIT STOP AS ALLOWING THE DENSITY BONUS, YOU WILL NOT DRIVE TO THE TRANSIT STOP? THAT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE. RIGHT. RIGHT. SO, THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GO IS TO WALK OR RIDE A BIKE? YEAH, WRITE A BIKE, WHATEVER. THIS DEVELOPMENT, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN, PLEASE? THIS REMINDS ME OF SOMETHING WE HAD NOT TOO LONG AGO. AT THIS POINT, DOES PUBLIC WORKS OR SOLID WASTE WEIGH IN ON THIS? WHAT WILL BE REFUGE REMOVE MAYBE? 
          >> WHETHER THESE WILL BE ALLOWED TO HAVE SINGLE PICKUP OR IF THEY 
          WILL REQUIRE A DUMPSTER. >> SCHOOL STOPS? 
          >> THE MOMENT THEY HAVE SCHOOL BUS PICKUP ACTUALLY ON 37TH STREET AND WE HAVE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THAT. AGAIN, THEY WILL BE LOOKING MORE AT THAT AT THE FINAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT. 
          >> I HAVE BEEN ON THAT ROAD FURTHER SOUTH BECAUSE OF THE FORT PIERCE UTILITIES AUTHORITY. I DO NOT GO ALL THAT WAY. I KNOW 
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THAT ROAD IS NOT IN GOOD SHAPE. THAT WHOLE AREA IS VERY RURAL IN SOME PLACES. SO, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL INCREASE ALL OF TRAFFIC. IT WILL JUST BE IN THE MIDDLE OF A RURAL ENCLAVE. 
          AND SO, OKAY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NOW, IT IS TIME FOR THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD AND THE PARTY INTERVENER. YOU HAD A CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF. THE APPLICANT FIRST, PLEASE IDENTIFY 
          YOURSELF, SIR. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR, I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN, MY NAME IS FRANCO PRADO, I AM THE APPLICANT. I WAS NOT ABLE TO DO A MEETING WITH YOU, YOU DO NOT DO MEETINGS WITH DEVELOPERS. WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PRODUCT . ONE OF THE ISSUES THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE TRANSIT STOP, THERE IS ACTUALLY PART OF YOUR CODE THAT DEALS WITH DENSITY BONUSES. THAT SECTION, I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE. 
          SECTION B. SECTION 4B , DENSITY BONUSES ARE GRANTED BASED ON A QUARTER-MILE RADIUS MEASURE BY ANY MEANS. IT IS NOT DEPENDENT THAT IT IS A WALKING MEASUREMENT. I CONFIRMED THIS ALMOST A YEAR AGO WITH KEVIN THAT IT IS A STANDARD WAY TO CALCULATE THOSE TYPES OF DENSITY BONUSES. 
          >> THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO ASK STAFF ANY QUESTIONS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, MR. FREEMAN? YOU HAVE THE CHANCE TO DO THAT. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, DOES THE INTERVENER 
          HAVE QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS, I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR MR. FREEMAN. MR. FREEMAN, REFERENCING THE DENSITY BONUS SECTION, I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THAT IN THE CALCULATIONS OF DENSITY BONUSES, THAT THERE IS THREE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE CURRENTLY, AND WHAT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR THE BUS STATION AND INTERMODAL STATION AND HOW IS THE REMAINDER CALCULATED? 
          >> I'M SORRY, MINE IS ON THIS. I'M SORRY, I'M JUST TRYING TO 
          PULL THIS THING. >> MADAM MAYOR, BECAUSE WE ARE TIMED, I WILL ASK THE CLERK TO PAUSE THE TIME IF STAFF IS NOT 
          READY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT, WE DO HAVE A LIMIT OF FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. 
          >> I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? 
          >> THE DENSITY BONUS SPECIFICALLY, THREE UNITS PER ACRE EXISTING AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT FOR THE BUS STATION, HOW IS THE REMAINING BONUS CALCULATED? WHAT IS THAT NUMBER? 
          IT SHOULD BE 3.4. >> WE ARE DEALING WITH TWO THINGS THERE, SO, WE ARE DEALING WITH THE ZONING WHICH IS THREE UNITS PER ACRE. AND THE DENSITY BONUS WHICH IS FIVE UNITS PER ACRE. WHEN WE DO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT, WE ARE REZONING A. 
          THREE ACRES PER UNIT GOES AWAY. IT REVERTS TO THE UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE WHICH IS LOW DENSITY. LOW-DENSITY, HAS A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 6.5. 6.5+5 IS 11.5 MAXIMUM DENSITY. 
          >> MADAM MAYOR, JUST REAL QUICK, WE HAVE SOME PROBLEMS IN THE BACK, THE RESIDENCE CANNOT HEAR BECAUSE OF THE AIR CONDITIONING UNIT THAT IS BACK THERE. CAN WE SPEAK LOUDER? 
          >> YOU MIGHT NEED TO BE A LITTLE CLOSER TO YOUR MIC BECAUSE WHEN YOUR VOICE DROPS, I KNOW IT IS JUST YOU. JEREMIAH, WE CAN HEAR 
          LIKE -- YEAH. >> IS THE MIC ON? IS IT WORKING? 
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          >> I WAS ASKED, HOW THE DENSITY IS CALCULATED IN ASSOCIATION WITH THIS PROPOSAL. SO, THE MOMENT THE ZONING IS E3 WHICH ALLOWS UP TO THREE UNITS PER ACRE, MINIMUM LOT SIZE IS 12,000 SQUARE FEET. THE LOTS WOULD BE MORE THAN 12,000 SQUARE FEET TO GET MORE THAN THREE UNITS PER ACRE ON THIS PROPERTY. WHEN WE HAVE A PLAN DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION, IT IS A ZONING REPLACEMENT. IT OVERRIDES THE THREE UNITS PER ACRE. THAT IS WHERE THE FUTURE LAND USE COMES INTO PLAY. UNDERLYING EVERYTHING IS A FUTURE LAND USE OF LOW DENSITY. NOW, THAT HAS A MAXIMUM DENSITY AVAILABILITY TO IT OF 6.5 UNITS PER ACRE. WHEN WE APPLY THE DENSITY BONUS ALLOWED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ACTUALLY, THAT IS FIVE UNITS PER ACRE, ADDED TOGETHER, 6.5+5 UNITS PER ACRE IS A MAXIMUM 11.5 UNITS PER ACRE. 
          >> THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT QUESTION IS REGARDING THE SPECIFICS OF THE PD ZONING DISTRICT. BECAUSE WE ARE DOING A REZONING. IN THE PD ZONING DISTRICT, IT SHOULD BE PRETTY EASY TO NAVIGATE TO. IT SPECIFICALLY MENTIONS ITEMS SUCH AS ENLIGHTENED AND IMAGINATIVE APPROACHES TO COMMUNITY PLANNING AND TALKS ABOUT NATURAL RESOURCES. IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL PLANNING EXPERIENCE, WHAT FEATURES ON SCENIC AREAS ARE PRESERVED IN THIS PD 
          APPLICATION? >> WE ARE YET TO HAVE A FULL ANALYSIS OF THAT ON THE FINAL PD. THERE WILL BE A REQUIREMENT FOR A PRESERVATION PLAN TO BE DONE AT THAT POINT. WETLAND DELINEATION IF THERE ARE ANY WETLANDS ON SITE AND ALSO THE APPLICANT TO PROPOSE EXACTLY WHAT PARTS OF THAT ARE GOING TO BE PRESERVED AND IT WILL BE REVIEWED AT FINAL PD. 
          >> THAT IS SECTION 212, OH, 125-212. 
          >> THANK YOU, OF COURSE. >> ACT, IT IS BASIC ZONING. 
          >> THANK YOU, SIR. FOR THE RECORD, RIGHT THERE WITH PURPOSE, HE TALKED ABOUT THE QUESTIONS I'M ASKING. WHAT PROTECTIONS ARE IN PLACE FOR THIS APPLICATION? THE LATER SECTION OF THE PARAGRAPH. I AM TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT PROTECTION OF ADJACENT EXISTING AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL PLANNING REVIEW OF THE PROJECT, WHAT PROTECTIONS 
          ARE IN PLACE? >> WE ARE LOOKING AT HOW THE PROPOSAL IS BUFFERED OR WHAT SORT OF BOUNDARY TREATMENTS ARE BEING PUT IN PLACE. AGAIN, FULL ANALYSIS OF THAT IS APPROPRIATED TO THE FINAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT. IT COMES INTO PLAY, IN TERMS OF WHAT SORT OF BOUNDARY IS BEING PROVIDED, WHAT MATERIALS, WHAT HEIGHT , ARE THERE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR LANDSCAPING ALONG THERE? WE DID ANALYZE THE SURROUNDING OCCUPATIONS AND USES, TO THE NORTH IS ASYMMETRY -- A CEMETERY AND TO THE REAR THERE ARE THOSE OTHER SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. 
          >> THAT ANALYSIS OF THE SURROUNDING, AND YOUR MAP AND PRESENTATION, IT IS CONSISTENTLY FOR COUNTY ZONING, IS THAT 
          ACCURATE? >> I HAVE TO SAY, WHAT IS OUR 
          TIME? >> 10 SECONDS. 
          >> OKAY. >> AND THE LAST QUESTION, ARE YOU AWARE THAT ALL OF THE ROADS IN THE AREA ARE SUBSTANDARD AND DO NOT MEET COUNTY OR CITY REGULAIONS? 
          >> I AM AWARE THAT THEY ARE IN POOR CONDITION, YES. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE APPLICANT TO MAKE A PRESENTATION. YOU HAVE A MAXIMUM 
          OF 20 MINUTES. WELCOME, AGAIN. >> TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS ABOUT 
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THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AS PART OF THE CONDITIONS ON THE FINAL PD, WE FULLY EXPECT TO HAVE THE COUNTY REQUIRE US TO IMPROVE THE ROAD TO WHATEVER STANDARD THEY DEEM. INCLUDING ADDITION OF TURN LANES FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, IF NEEDED. WE ARE TOTALLY PREPARED TO BE ABLE TO COMPLY WITH ANY ROAD STANDARD THAT THE COUNTY MIGHT IMPOSE ON US. GOING BACK TO THE INTERVENORS COMMENTS, HOW TO PROTECT THE SURROUNDING AREAS, THE PD REQUIRES A BUFFER, WHICH WILL BE ADHERED TO AND THE INTENT OF THIS APPLICATION WAS TO NOT AMEND THE UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE IN AN EFFORT TO MAINTAIN CONGRUITY WITH THE CURRENT LAND USE AND THE CURRENT USES OF THE ZONE, AS OPPOSED TO RAISING THE LAND-USE, WE ARE MAINTAINING THE LAND-USE TO BEST FIT THIS DEVELOPMENT IN THE CURRENT AREA. YOU KNOW, IT IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE FPUA FACILITY ON SEVENTH STREET AND LASTLY, THE MEADOW LANE ACCESS, THERE ACTUALLY IS ACCESS EASEMENT AT THE END OF THAT ROAD. THERE IS AN FPL LIGHT POLE ON THE PROPERTY, IN THE DEVELOPMENT BORDERS. THE ONLY WAY TO ACCESS THAT IS THROUGH MEADOW LANE AND THE FPUA GAS INFRASTRUCTURE ALSO GOES DOWN MEADOW LANE , THROUGH THE EXISTING UTILITY ACCESS EASEMENT. IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I WOULD LOVE TO ANSWER THEM. IT IS OUR INTENT TO MAINTAIN THE OVERALL CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BY NOT CHANGING THE LAND-USE AND LEVERAGING THE NEW CODE WHICH ALLOWS US TO APPLY FOR A MASTER AND THEN COME BACK AND ADDRESS ALL OF THOSE CONDITIONS AND HAVE DETAILED DISCUSSIONS WITH STORM WATER AND THE COUNTY AND THE GARBAGE PICKUP AS WELL. ALL OF THAT, AS MENTIONED, IS GOING TO BE DRILLED DOWN INTO THE FINAL PD AND BROUGHT BACK BEFORE YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR REVIEW AND 
          APPROVAL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> COME BACK HERE, PLEASE. 
          QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? 
          >> MADAME MAYOR, ON MEADOW ROAD, THAT IS AN ACCESS, THEY DRIVE TRUCKS TO ACCESS THEIR POOLS NOW? 
          >> THERE IS AN F YELP POLE. MEADOW LANE ENDS DIRECTLY AND IS AN ASPHALT ROAD. IF WE CAN PULL UP A GOOGLE MAP, ROADSIDE VIEW, YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THE FPL POLL . TWO YEARS AGO, I HAD STUCK AND SPOKEN TO THE PROPERTY OWNER, I BELIEVE THAT WOMAN IS NO LONGER WITH US. I BELIEVE THAT THE CHILDREN ARE NOW IN THE HOME AND OWN THE HOME. WHEN I DID SPEAK TO THE NEIGHBORS ON MEADOW LANE, A LOT OF THEM WERE HAPPY TO HAVE UTILITIES BROUGHT IN, BECAUSE THAT STRETCH OF MEADOW LANE IS ALL WELL AND SEPTIC SYSTEMS. THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL NOT ONLY IMPROVE THE ROADS, IT WILL BRING UTILITIES TO UNINCORPORATED COUNTY PROPERTY AND OTHER CITY PROPERTIES IN THAT AREA THAT DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE UTILITIES. 
          >> OKAY, ALL RIGHT. >> HE WILL BRING UP MEADOW LANE 
          SO THAT WE CAN SEE IT HERE. >> YEAH, IF YOU PUT YOURSELF RIGHT AT THE END THERE. THE ELECTRIC POLE, THAT IS ON MY PROPERTY. THAT POLE IS LOCATED WITHIN MY PROPERTY LINE AND THE ONLY WAY TO ACCESS IT IS DOWN MEADOW LANE, YOU PARK RIGHT THERE AND DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. CORRECT. THAT SPECIFIC AREA 
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IF YOU GO TO THE SITE PLAN WILL BE A FPUA EASEMENT. WITH AN EASEMENT, THERE WILL BE 21 ACCESS AND I AM SURE, THROUGH THE FINAL DESIGN REVIEW, WE CAN INCORPORATE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AS WELL, FROM THE DEVELOPMENT, THROUGH THE ACCESS FROM THE EASEMENT, DOWN TO MATT MEADOW LANE , TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS REGARDING THE PHYSICAL WALKING DISTANCE. AGAIN, THE MEASUREMENT FOR THE DENSITY BONUS IS BY RADIUS. 
          >> QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? ANYBODY? OKAY. ARE YOU FINISHED 
          WITH YOUR PRESENTATION? >> YES MA'AM. 
          >> NOW, IT IS TIME FOR THE STAFF TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT. MR. FREEMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE 
          APPLICANT? >> WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO MAKE THE COMMITMENT THAT YOU WILL BE CREATING A PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO 
          MEADOW LANE? >> IF THAT IS PART OF THE DESIGN REVIEW AND IT IS ALLOWED, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE THAT. I WANT TO DO THAT. SO, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP THE DEVELOPMENT A LOT. ESPECIALLY THE CONCERNS BROUGHT UP TODAY. 
          >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, CHAIR. THE INTERVENER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? 
          >> YES MA'AM, JEREMIAH JOHNSON, FOR THE RECORD AGAIN, MA'AM. 
          >> MR. ABANDEL GROUP, LTD LOVE TO COME BACK UP TO ANSWER 
          QUESTIONS. >> I CAN PROJECT. MR. ABANDEL GROUP, LTD, THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK UP, DO YOU KNOW THE SIZE OF 
          THE UNITS? >> THEY ARE 32 HAS PROPOSED IN THE APPLICATION. THAT ALSO INCLUDES ELEVATIONS. 1200 SQUARE 
          FEET, 1300 SQUARE FEET. >> YOU TALKED ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN YOUR APPLICATION, DO YOU HAVE A PRICE POINT IN MIND? 
          >> IN THE APPLICATION NARRATIVE, I GO INTO THE PRICE POINT, WE ARE AIMING TO OFFER HOUSING BELOW THE MEDIAN HOUSING COST. 
          >> YOU TALKED ABOUT THE BEST STOCK. BUT SEE, YOU TALKED ABOUT IT JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO, YOU TALKED ABOUT CHANGING, NOT CHANGING THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT EXIST TODAY. 
          IF YOU INCREASE THE DENSITY, IS THAT CHARACTER PRESERVED? 
          >> I AM NOT ASKING FOR AN INCREASE IN DENSITY, THIS IS THE CURRENT DENSITY THAT IS ALLOWED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          >> OKAY. HOW HAS THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOT CHANGED? 
          >> BY MAINTAINING THE FEATURE AS RESIDENTIAL LOW INSTEAD OF RESIDENTIAL HIGH AND THAT WOULD BE AN INCREASE IN DENSITY. 
          >> WHAT NATURAL FEATURES ARE YOU PRESERVING AS PART OF THE PLAN 
          DEVELOPMENT? >> THIS IS A VACANT LOT WITH NO NATURAL FEATURES BESIDES CABBAGE PALMS. 
          >> NATIVE TREES, NATIVE OAKS? >> THAT IS PART OF THE FINAL PD INCLUDING THE TREE MITIGATION THAT IS IDENTIFIED FOR ANY 
          PROTECTIVE SPECIES OF TREES. >> THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, YOU TALK ABOUT PRIVATE INFRASTRUCTURE. WHAT PRIVATE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR APPLICATION FOR THIS TYPE OF ZONING CHANGE? 
          >> WE DISCUSSED THE REQUIRED ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL AS 
          UTILITY ACCESS. >> ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ARE 37TH BECAUSE THERE ARE NO CONDUCTORS? 
          >> THAT WILL BE IDENTIFIED DURING THE FINAL SITE PLAN BY 
          THE APRIL JURISDICTION. >> IS A YOUR INTENT TO IMPROVE 
          THOSE ROADS? >> ABSOLUTELY. 
          >> WHICH MIXED-USE ELEMENTS ARE INCLUDED IN THE APPLICATION? 
          >> THIS IS RESIDENTIAL. >> OKAY, THANK YOU, MA'AM. 
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          >> IT IS TIME NOW FOR THE INTERVENER TO MAKE A PRESENTATION. IF THE APPLICANT WILL SIT DOWN AND THE INTERVENER 
          WILL -- >> INTERVENE. 
          >> YOU HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 20 MINUTES EXCLUDING ANY CROSS-EXAMINATION FROM THE COMMITTEE. 
          >> 001 AND 002. THEY ARE BOTH PDF. 
          >> I WILL DO THAT ONE. >> DO YOU WANT TO DO 01 FIRST? YOU CAN DRIVE THEN. THOSE ARE THE TWO TABS THEN. JUST IN CASE I NEED TO PUSH A BUTTON, RIGHT? MAYBE. MAYBE I HAVE ENOUGH ROOM. 
          AGAIN, GOOD EVENING, MADAME MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. 
          JEREMIAH JOHNSON FOR THE RECORD. I WAS SWORN IN, I DO NOT SEE THE EARLIER, I APOLOGIZE. INTERVENER ON THE PROJECT. FIRST I WANT TO START OFF BY JUST SAYING, THINK YOU TO THE APPLICANT AND TO YOUR CITY STAFF FOR THEIR HARD WORK AND WHAT THEY PUT IN TO GET TO THIS POINT. IT IS NOT EASY, I UNDERSTAND THAT. I UNDERSTAND THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. I AM AN ENGINEER, CONTRACTOR, I HAVE BEEN PLANNING SINCE 1999 WHEN I LEFT COLLEGE AND CAME TO FORT PIERCE. AND THAT STARTED IN THIS INDUSTRY. I WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT I COME FROM A GOOD PLACE. TO START MY APPLICATION TONIGHT, IT IS IN CHAPTER 125 SPECIFICALLY WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE AND WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO DO AS A CITY? I KNOW IT IS SMALL ON THE SCREEN. 125 CAN BE EASILY LOOKED UP WHENEVER WE NEED TO READ THIS. I HAVE GOT A HERE. IT IS PART OF THE CITY CODE TO LESSEN CONGESTION IN THE STREETS TO PROMOTE HEALTH AND GENERAL WELFARE TO PROVIDE LIGHT AND AIR TO PREVENT OVERCROWDING OF LAND. ONE OF THE REASONS I AM AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL IS SPECIFIC TO THIS APPLICATION IN THE DENSITY. 
          IT IS SPECIFIC TO THE DENSITY AND WHAT WE ARE GOING TO TALK MUCH AND WHAT I WILL PRESENT TONIGHT. MOVING FROM RS CAPITAL THREE AND E3, I WILL CONSIDER TO BE SOMEWHAT LOW DENSITY. THREE UNITS PER ACRE. E3 ZONING DISTRICT IS VERY UNIQUE. WE DO NOT HAVE MANY STATES ZONING DISTRICTS IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. WE HAVE IN OUR CODE AND IN THIS CASE, AS STATE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, DOCTORATES UP AT THE FRONT YARDS AND REAR YARDS. IT GIVES YOU AMPLE ROOM TO OPERATE IF YOU HAD A DEVELOPMENT PROJECT OR IF YOU WERE TO DO LIKE I AM DOING AND SPLIT THE PARCEL THAT I OWN AND GIVE IT TO A FAMILY MEMBER, FRIENDS, THAT ARE WANTING TO BUILD WITHIN THE AREA, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, MY POINT IS, WHEN I WENT TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION, I WENT TO SEVEN ACRES AND A SINGLE ONE ACRE PARCEL AND THEN APPROXIMATELY THREE ACRE PARCELS WELL MAINTAINING THE ESTATE TYPE OF FEEL WHICH IS ALLOWABLE THROUGH BOTH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY. IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT WHEN WE ARE TRYING TO TRANSITION FROM E3 TO PD, WE ARE CHALLENGED BY THE PARTS OF THE APPLICATION BECAUSE, I WAS SPECIFIC IN THE QUESTIONS I ASKED, A VARIETY OF NATURAL FEATURES AND SCENIC AREAS, EFFICIENT AND ECONOMICAL LAND USE, IMPROVED AMENITIES, ORDERLY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ADJACENT TO FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. 
          WHEN YOU'RE IN AN AREA AND WE ARE ASKING FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO OR CHANGING THE ZONING DISTRICT OF AN AREA THAT IS CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT AS WAS REFERENCED BY AN EARLIER PRESENTATION, IGNORING THE GENERAL KNOWLEDGE OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, WE KNOW HOW DENSE IT IS UP TO 33RD STREET. IT GREW MANY YEARS AGO TO 33RD. WE HAVE REDEVELOPMENT, NEW DEVELOPMENT, QUARTER ACRE LOTS, SOME SMALLER LOTS. I AM OKAY WITH THAT. THE CHALLENGE 
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WITH THIS APPLICATION, MR. PRADO ON HIS APPLICATION, THIS IS NOT A CORRECT FIT, LAND-USE AND LAND ZONING THAT EXISTS FOR TODAY FOR A VERY GOOD REASON. IF I GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE HERE, WHICH YOU HAVE SEEN MULTIPLE TIMES ALREADY, YOU SEE THE EXISTING AREAS, THE PROPERTY APPRAISER MAP, YOU SEE ALL OF THESE SQUARES. YOU GO FROM EAST, HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO THE WEST WORKING FROM 33RD TO HARTMAN WITH NOTHING LESS THAN A HALF ACRE PARCEL. I AM STRUGGLING WITH THE APPLICATION WHEN I SEE HIGH USE INTENSITY RESIDENTIAL APPLICATIONS ON ROADS, I WILL REFERENCE THESE ROADS A NUMBER OF TIMES THAT ARE UNIMPROVED. THEY DO NOT MEET COUNTY STANDARD, THEY DO NOT MEET CITY STANDARD. I BELIEVE THEY ARE ALL COUNTY ROADS. WHILE WE ARE REFERENCING THIS MAP, PETERSON USED TO BE A CANAL MAINTENANCE ROAD, IT TURNED INTO A ROAD. I SUGGEST THAT IT TURNED INTO A ROAD BECAUSE IT IS 18 FEET WIDE. THERE ARE SOME FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT CAN TESTIFY TO THAT. UNIMPROVED MILLINGS ROAD, WIDE WAY DAIRY, STILL A ROAD, THERE ARE SOME FRONTAGES OF PROPERTIES THAT LEGALLY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THEM ACCESS, WE ALLOW THEM TO TRAVERSE DOWN THIS ROAD TO GET TO THEIR HOME. RIGHT HERE AT HEART WHEN, THERE ARE A FEW OTHER DOWN THIS CORRIDOR HERE. YOU CAN SEE MY MOUSE MOVING. THE POINT IS, LEGALLY, WE CANNOT SAY IT IS NOT A ROAD, LEGALLY WE ARE CHALLENGED BY ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE THERE. IT TAKES RIGHT-OF-WAY TO IMPROVE ROADS. SO, I BELIEVE THAT THIS POLICY, IT IS MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION THAT THE POLICY IS VIOLATED ON ADDITIONAL BONUSES BECAUSE THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ENGINEERING AND PLANNING. I AM A PLANNER BUT ALSO AN ENGINEER. 
          WHEN YOU PERFORM AND CONSTRUCT ROADWAY NETWORKS AND LOOK AT D.O.T. STANDARDS, WE ARE LOOKING AT ROADS, DRAINAGE, SAFE PASSAGE WEIGHTS, SIDEWALKS. WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A BONUS TO GET TO A BUS STATION, I'M GOING TO CALCULATE, SPECIFICALLY, THE DISTANCE IT TAKES FOR ME TO WALK MY TWO FEET TO THE BUS STATION. 
          THAT IS AN ENGINEER'S MIND-SET. I'M OPENING THE WINDOW TO WHAT IS IN MY BRAIN HERE. THEY SAW IMPROVEMENT AND EXPANSION OF PUBLIC TRANSIT AND ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENT OF MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENTS. VERY SPECIFIC IN ASKING ABOUT MIXED-USE, TO SEE IF THERE IS ANY INFRASTRUCTURE NEED FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT. THE APPLICANT DID NOT PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL AMENITIES IN THE CURRENT APPLICATION. THAT IS A CHALLENGE FOR ME. WE KNOW THAT A HIGHER DENSITY, WE MIGHT HAVE MORE WALKERS, MORE TRANSIT ACTIVITY, WE MIGHT HAVE -- AT THIS POINT GETTING TO THE SECTION OF OUR COMMUNITY. THE PLANNING DEVELOPMENT ZONE IS THE MOST APPROPRIATE. FOR THIS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. I JUST SEE IT AS A DENSITY BONUS ASK. I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU. THERE IS A CALCULATION, I UNDERSTAND IT, THREE UNITS PER ACRE. IT IS WHAT IS EXISTING AND WE ARE GOING TO 11.4. I AM VERY DISCOURAGED BY THE LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT EXISTS. SO, I ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT, SINCE WE TALKED ABOUT THE APPLICATION SPECIFICALLY, IT REFERENCES AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I WILL GIVE YOU CURRENT SNAPSHOTS OF REAL ESTATE NUMBERS. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT INVENTORY THAT IS AVAILABLE AND THE CHANGE IN INVENTORY THAT IS HAPPENING WITHIN ST. LUCIE COUNTY. 
          AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS AN ISSUE. INVENTORY HOUSING IS ON THE RISE BY 53.9% COMPARED TO LAST YEAR THIS TIME. IN 2025, THE MONTH OF SUPPLY IS 12 AND THE MONTH OF SUPPLY OF INVENTORY WAS 7.6 A YEAR AGO. INVENTORY ACTIVE LISTINGS HAVE GONE UP 31%. WE ARE SEEING A CHANGE IN THE RESIDENTIAL MARKET. THE ATTRACTION TO ST. LUCIE COUNTY, STILL. WHAT I SUBMIT IS THAT AN APPLICATION BASED ON ITS OWN MERIT STANDING HERE TONIGHT SAYING I WANT THE EXTRA BONUS WITHIN THIS CORE DOOR, WITHIN THIS DISTANCE AS A CROW FLIES TO THE BUS STATION, I'M SAYING THAT THERE IS INVENTORY IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY AND FORT PIERCE 
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THAT CAN BE HAD BY THOSE WISHING TO BUY SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND RENT A NEW OPPORTUNITY. THE SALE PRICES WITHIN THIS DOCUMENT, I CAN SHOW TOO THAT THEY ARE CHANGING AND GOING DOWN. 
          TRENDING DOWN. NOT SUBSTANTIALLY, BUT THEY ARE TRENDING DOWNWARD. IN THIS PAGE, EXCUSE ME FOR GRABBING MY MOUSE HERE. THIS WILL BE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME FROM THE FLORIDA REALTORS, INVENTORY, ACTIVE LISTINGS, OF 43%. INVENTORY FROM THREE TO SIX. THERE IS SOME OTHER DOCUMENTATION HERE ABOUT SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, THIS ONE IS SPECIFIC TO TOWNHOUSES AND CONDOS. TOWNHOUSES AND CONDOS, SAME NUMBER I WAS READING BEFORE. ACTIVE LISTINGS, UP 31% AND 54% MONTHS OF SUPPLY INCREASED BY 54%. I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE. WE DID TALK ABOUT, IN OUR COMMUNITY, ALL OF OUR NONPROFITS, THE COMMISSION, THE COUNTY COMMISSION, WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING ROUTINELY. IT IS AN ISSUE. WE HAVE BOARDS AND COMMITTEES THAT WE SIT ON TO TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHAT CAN WE DO TO SUSTAIN OUR COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE LIVING ARRANGEMENTS FOR OUR RESIDENTS? I BRING THAT TO YOU BECAUSE IT IS PART OF THISCONVERSATION. I SUBMIT THAT THERE IS AMPLE OPPORTUNITY. WITHOUT THIS APPLICATION MOVING FORWARD. HERE IS ANOTHER PICTURE OF THE PROPERTY APPRAISER MAP. THIS IS THE SUBJECT PARCEL. IF I ZOOM IN HERE ON THIS CORNER THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT AND REFERENCED EARLIER, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TURNABOUT IS PART OF SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY AT THE END OF THIS, THERE IS NO LEGAL MEANS. A UTILITY EASEMENT IS NOT A PUBLIC ACCESS POINT AND DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY HAVE LEGAL ACCESS TO USE THAT. YES, THERE IS THE BUS STOP IN THE RIGHT-HAND CORNER. 
          THE NEXT PAGE WE WILL SUBMIT TO YOU TO VERIFY THAT MAP, THE PROPERTY APPRAISER MAP, THE APPLICANT SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS THAT THE TWO PARCELS ARE OWNED AND THE LAND-USE DOES NOT SHOW THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY, IS MY POINT. THAT IS IMPORTANT, VERY IMPORTANT. I WILL ALSO SUBMIT TO YOU AND GO BACK TO MEADOW LANE WHICH HAS A JOGGING RIGHT-OF-WAY LINE. I AM NOT SURE HOW NEW THIS MAP IS. I MEASURED IN PHYSICAL FORM THAT MEADOW LANE IS A VERY SMALL ROAD. I MEASURED ON THIS MAP THAT THE LARGEST RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT EXISTS ACCORDING TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER MAP IS 30 FEET. BIG DIFFERENCE. THAT IS A LOT OF TAKING OF PRIVATE PROPERTY TO IMPROVE MEADOW LANE. SO, THAT IS A CHALLENGE. HERE IS MY DISTANCE CALCULATION, MY ENGINEERING BRAIN, THIS IS HOW I GO, HOW GOOD MY TWO FEET GET TO THE BUS STOP, 0.44 MILES. THOUGH SIDEWALKS ARE PRESENT ALONG THIS ROUTE. NO CROSSWALKS AND NO SIDEWALKS. THAT IS A PROBLEM. I WILL JUST GO THROUGH A FEW PICTURES NOW AND JUST SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES THAT WERE VERY RECENT, LAST WEEK, THAT I WANTED TO DEPICT FOR YOU OF THE STRUCTURE THAT IS LACKING OR SOME VEGETATION THAT EXISTS TODAY. HERE'S THE PARCEL. THIS IS A SOUTHERN VIEW, THIS IS A SOUTHEAST VIEW. BOTTOM AND CORN WILL BE EASED. AND ANOTHER SOUTHEAST VIEW. HERE, LOOKING DUE EAST, THERE IS THE POSTING OF THE SIGN OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. LOVE YOU ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE IS THE NORTHEASTERN REVIEW. STANDING ON 37TH STREET, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE. THE EXISTING PARCELS ALONG 37TH STREET AND EXISTING CONDITIONS, I WILL GO BACK TO THIS PICTURE IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT-HAND QUARTER, THIS IS A MILLING SERVICE ROAD. IT IS NOT IMPROVED ASPHALT. ANY ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS IN THIS AREA REQUIRE A ROBUST SYSTEM TO EXIST THE CANALS. THE APPLICANT WILL BE REQUIRED TO HOLD STORMWATER. OFFICER SPOTS WILL BE EXCITED THAT I TALKED ABOUT STORMWATER. IT IS REQUIRED TO HOLD STORMWATER. ONCE HE REACHES THE MAXIMUM AREA, IT HAS TO DISCHARGE SOMEWHERE. IT GOES INTO THE PUBLIC TRUCTURE CANALS. ALL EXISTING COUNTY ZONING AROUND THIS ENTIRE AREA IS RESIDENTIAL, THREE UNITS PER ACRE. VERY CONSISTENT, I AM VERY CONSISTENT IN MY MENTALITY OF HOW A ZONING SHOULD TRANSITION BETWEEN HIGHER DENSITY TO LOWER DENSITY IN THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS. I HAVE SEEN THAT OVER THE LAST 26 YEARS OF MY CAREER. 
          HERE ARE SOME ADJACEN PARCELS. 37TH STREET RIGHT AWAY. 
          UNIMPROVED. THE NEXT INTERSECTION TO THE NORTH OF THE 
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SUBJECT PARCEL AT 37TH. THIS IS 37TH AND DEWBERRY. WHERE ONE OF THE CHURCHES IS LOCATED. ALSO IMPROVED. THEY ARE IN POOR CONDITION, THEY ARE METAL PIPES, OLD TECHNOLOGY, PROBABLY HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME. THIS AREA USED TO BE CITRUS FARM AND PROBABLY PASTURELAND. I CAN TELL YOU THOSE PIPES RUSHED OUT QUICKLY BECAUSE OF WHAT HAS BEEN PLACED ON THE PROPERTIES OVER THE YEARS. WITHOUT A PIPE INSPECTION AND VIDEO CAMERA, I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW GOOD OR BAD CONDITION IT IS. I DID MEASURE 37TH STREET, BOTTOM LEFT CORNER OF THE SLIDE, IT IS 18 LINEAR FEET WIDE. IT DOES NOT INCORPORATE A TWO LANE WITH ROAD TODAY. THIS IS THE COUNTY'S DETAIL. THIS IS WHAT IS REQUIRED BY ALL NEW ROADS ON DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS I COME IN. SO, WHAT I WANTED TO SHOW YOU IS A TYPICAL CROSS-SECTION, THE LANE, THE TOP LEFT CORNER, THE LANE TO THE LEFT, A ROADWAY SHOULDER AND TWO FEET OF GRASS STABILIZED. SO WE HAVE SOME KIND OF CONDITION WHERE IF YOU HAVE TO SWERVE OFF THE ROAD AND STABILIZE, WE DO NOT GO INTO OTHER SPOTS WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE WITH THE VEHICLE. LOCAL PUBLIC ROADS ARE MINIMUM LANE WITH, 11 FEET. 
          RIGHT NOW, AN 18 FOOT ROAD, MINIMUM ROADS ARE 11 FEET WIDE EACH LANE. COUNTY STANDARD. BY THE WAY, THERE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SIDEWALKS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SIDEWALKS ALONG ALL OF THE ROUTES. IT WILL BE A FIVE FOOT MINIMUM FOR SIDEWALKS ON LOCAL ROADWAYS. PER THE COUNTY STANDARD. REFERENCED EARLIER TONIGHT WAS FPUA. WHEN THEY BUILT THIS BUILDING, 37TH STREET WAS IMPROVED TO WHITE WAY DAIRY. PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION, PART OF THE PROJECT. BUILT TO THE CITY STANDARD THAT WAS PREVIOUS. CARBON GUTTER, CURB ON EACH SIDE. NO SIDEWALKS, UNFORTUNATELY. SO, I GUESS WE WEREN'T IN TUNE WITH THAT AT THAT POINT, THAT'S OKAY, HE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND IT SHOULD HAVE SIDEWALKS. THIS OTHER PICTURE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE IS JUST A BACK TO YOU A LITTLE FURTHER NORTH OF THAT INTERSECTION. SHOWING AGAIN, THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS NOT THERE. PART OF THE TPO, TRANSPORTATION, WE HAVE OUTLOOK ON ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS. I WANT TO SHOW THIS, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER DID PROVIDE A REPORT AND TALK ABOUT ROAD CONNECTIONS TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH. I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT WE HAVE SOME ROADS IN THIS CORRIDOR THAT ARE LEVEL SERVICE D. MR. FREEMAN DID BRING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION TONIGHT. 
          BECAUSE IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE TPO REPORT THAT IS IN THE PACKET. SO, 50% NORTH, 50% SOUTH, AS PART OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY. I PRESENT AND SAY TO YOU, THAT IS FINE , EXCEPT WHEN YOU NORTH TO PETERSON ROAD, IT IS A DEAD END. IT DOES NOT GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH. THE REPORT TALKS ABOUT GOING TO 50%, TO ORANGE AVENUE. YOU HAVE A COUPLE ROADS THAT WE HAVE TO NAVIGATE TO GET FROM 37TH STREET TO ORANGE AVENUE. IF YOU ARE TO LEAVE NORTH, PETERSON ROAD TO 34TH WERE PETERSON ROAD TO HARTMAN. 
          THERE ARE SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE THERE. HERE IS 33RD STREET LOOKING SOUTH. ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU WHAT HAPPENS AT THESE INTERSECTIONS. PETERSON ROAD , PREVIOUS CANAL MAINTENANCE ROAD, NO GUARDRAILS, NO SIDEWALKS, UNDERSIDE ROAD WITH, NO STRIPING, NO RIGHT AWAY TO ACQUIRE FOR THE MAPS. AGAIN, SOME TAKING OF LAND WOULD BE NEEDED. HERE ARE A FEW PICTURES. WIDE WAY DAIRY 33RD, ACROSS THE STREET FROM COMMUNITY METHODIST CHURCH NORTHWEST OF THAT INTERSECTION. THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, PETERSON AT 33RD LOOKING DUE EAST. ANOTHER CHURCH THERE. INTERSECTION AT 33RD. IT IS A CANAL MAINTENANCE ROAD ALSO. TRAFFIC REPORT DID NOT INCLUDE EAST AND WEST CONNECTORS. I DID WANT TO MENTION NOT. THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT NOTE ABOUT ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS. I WILL JUST FINALIZE HERE, THIS IS WHITE WAY DAIRY. I TOOK AN ELECTRONIC SHOCK TO THIS POWERFUL, COUNTY STANDARDS ARE 60 LINEAR FEET IS REQUIRED IF YOU ARE IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY. I HAD TO DEDICATE SOME LAND, TO SPLIT THE PROPERTY. WE UNDERSTAND IT ALL TOO WELL, FORTUNATELY OR UNFORTUNATELY. 
          SO, I WILL WRAP UP HERE. IN THE SITE PLAN ITSELF, I AM LOOKING 
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FOR AN APPLICATION LIKE THIS, THE COMMUNITY IS LOOKING FOR PROVIDING EXTRA DENSITY. WHERE DOES THE TRANSITION GO FROM HIGH DENSITY, QUARTER ACRE LOTS TO HALF DENSITY, THIRD ACRE LOTS, OR THREE-ACRE IN MY CASE? LOOKING FOR THE EXTRA YARDS, I DID NOT SEE ANY YARDS, ONE MINUTE LEFT. OFF-SITE IMPROVEMENTS ARE EXTREME. IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, .5 ACRE OR LARGER. 
          I JUST WANTED TO STOP RIGHT THERE AND SAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. THOSE ARE THE ITEMS I WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT TONIGHT, SPECIFIC TO THE APPLICATION AND WHY I AM INTERVENING AGAINST. THANK YOU. 
          >> WE GET TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS NOW. I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU, WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THAT PROPERTY? 
          >> IN MY PROFESSONAL OPINION AND THIS PARCEL, ANYTHING AT THREE UNITS PER ACRE OR LESS IS SUITABLE FOR THIS AREA. I THINK THE ZONING THAT EXISTS TODAY IS PROPER AND CONSISTENT WITH ST. 
          LUCIE COUNTY ZONING WHICH IS ADJACENT. 
          >> OKAY, QUESTIONS OF THE INTERVENER? COMMISSIONER GAINES? 
          >> A QUICK QUESTION LIKE I ASKED BEFORE. WITHOUT ANY OF THE 14 CONDITIONS THAT WERE ASKED OF THE DEVELOPER TO GET , THE ROADWAYS, THE SIDEWALKS, AND EVERYTHING YOU SAID, ISN'T IT ALMOST PREMATURE TO SAY THAT THE ROADS WILL NOT BE AS YOU JUST DESCRIBED? IF THE COUNTY COMES BACK AND SAYS, YOU HAVE TO DO THIS. AT THIS POINT, WILL HE BE ABLE TO SAY, YES, I DO NOT WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY DOING THIS. RIGHT NOW, YOU AND I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE FINAL PROJECT IS GOING T LOOK LIKE WITH ALL OF THESE 14 OR 15, AS WE ADDED TODAY, WITH THE SIDEWALK TO SEE IF HE CAN DO THAT. YOU HAVE SAID HERE MANY TIMES, USE YOUR BRAIN WHEN IT COMES TO ENGINEERING. I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY, ISN'T IT ALMOST PREMATURE UNTIL WE SEE WHAT WE ARE GOING TO GET OUT OF THIS, IF WE WILL GET IMPROVEMENTS TO 37TH STREET, IF WE GO IN AND BRING THE SAME ARGUMENTS TO THESE OTHER STREETS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT AND WE CAN GET IMPROVEMENTS, ISN'T THAT SOMETHING WE SHOULD AT LEAST SEE? HE HAS TO GO TO ALL THIS, BEFORE HE CAN PUT -- THIS IS WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION EARLIER BEFORE PUTTING ONE SHOVEL IN THE GROUND, I'M CURIOUS, LET'S SEE IF HE CAN DO IT. IF YOU CAN'T, I THINK MOST OF YOUR QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED IN THOSE 14 CONDITIONS, MAYBE 15 CONDITIONS THAT WE PUT ON THIS APPLICATION. THAT IS WHAT I'M ASKING. 
          >> SO, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. MULTIPLE LAYERS TO THAT 
          QUESTION. >> NOT FROM THE BEST. 
          >> CORRECT. >> I FEEL THAT IT IS A CHICKEN OR EGG SCENARIO, ALMOST. THIS PROCESS IS VERY UNIQUE. 
          TRANSITIONING ZONING FROM CURRENT, WHATEVER EXISTS, TO PD WHICH GIVES US LEEWAY IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, I AM PROUD OF THAT FACT. HOWEVER, THERE ARE SO MANY UNKNOWNS. I UNDERSTAND THE 14 CONDITIONS. I READ THEM IN DETAIL. THE COUNTY ONLY TALKED ABOUT 37TH AND I'M GOING, WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE YOU GUYS DOING? WE ARE LEADING TO SOMEONE , TO A POND THAT DOESN'T HAVE WATER. I AM CHALLENGED BY THAT APPEARED AT THE SAME TIME, THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL BONUS DENSITY. SO, IN THIS PROCESS, IT IS DIFFICULT FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND ANYONE TO RENEW THE APPLICATION TO LEGALLY CHALLENGE, ACTUALLY, I COULD EASILY LEGALLY CHALLENGE, ONCE YOU PROVIDE ME THE ZONING APPLICATION OKAY OR APPROVAL, NOW ALL OF THE SUDDEN IF I DO NOT MEET THE CONDITIONS, NOT SURE HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO MOVE BACKWARD. IN THIS WORLD, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO REVERT BACK TO A STATE ZONING WHEN THE APPLICANT DID NOT EVEN MEET ALL THE CONDITIONS. NOW, I KNOW THERE IS A FINAL APPROVAL, I UNDERSTAND THAT PART. SO, I THINK THAT IS THE CHALLENGE. I'M LOOKING FOR THE PARTS OF THE PD AND PARTS OF THE CODE THAT ARE SAYING, WHAT ARE YOU PRESERVING, NATURALLY? WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO BE INNOVATIVE? WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO BE OUTSTANDING? YES, I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE THAT 
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PROJECT BUILT. I DO NOT SEE THAT HERE. I SEE I AM TAKING ADVANTAGE OR THE APPLICANT IS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE FIVE ACRES, A DECENT MARKET RATE AND IS NOW MAXIMIZING THE DENSITY. 
          ON THE SURFACE. > THANK YOU FOR THAT. AT THIS JUNCTURE AND WITH OUR CODE, DOES THE APPLICANT, IS THE APPLICANT REQUIRED TO GIVE A FINAL PLAN AT THIS JUNCTURE? ACCORDING TO OUR 
          CODE. >> KNOW. I WOULD IMAGINE, IN MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE THEY HAVE DONE THE DUE DILIGENCE OF WHAT IT COST AND WHAT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT IS GOING TO BE. I CAN TELL YOU, A MILE OF ROAD IS VERY EXPENSIVE TO BUILD. WHAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE FROM OUR CITY PIECEMEAL AN APPLICATION AND ZONING DISTRICT WITHOUT THE PROPER INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE AND RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE ANY INFRASTRUCTURE. WE DO NOT EVEN HAVE THE IDEA THAT THE APPLICANT, OTHER THAN A FEW WORDS AND WHAT IS PROVIDED BY ST. LUCIE COUNTY, TELLING US THAT OUR CITIZENS ARE GOING TO BE PROTECTED THROUGH THIS APPLICATION. WHEN YOU COME IN HERE, HERE IS MY WORRY. I DO NOT WANT TO HAVE A ZONING -- GET THERE PARTS OF THE PLAN AND THEN ALL THE SUDDEN, WHAT IF THE PROPERTY CHANGES HANDS? 
          >> I UNDERSTAND THAT. WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE, WHEN WE GET TO 
          THAT POINT. >> WE CAN. DEVELOPERS DO IT ALL THE TIME. THEY PUT ALL OF THEIR RESOURCES INTO PLANNING AND SAYING, THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO COST, WHAT IT IS GOING TO DO, 
          FOR YOU TO ACCEPT IT. >> THIS DEVELOPER HAS FOLLOWED WHAT OUR ORDINANCE HAS ASKED HIM TO DO. HE IS ASKING FOR A CHANCE TO GO GET A FINAL PLAN, TO BRING BACK TO US, TO ANSWER MOST OF YOUR QUESTIONS, ANSWER MOST OF THESE QUESTIONS APPEAR. THE BENEFIT, MAYBE, IF YOU GOING TO THE COUNTY AND COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SAME ROADS, I KNOW YOU WILL. I HAVE SAT HERE BESIDE YOU LONG ENOUGH, TO SEE. THAT IS WHERE I AM GOING. THAT IS MY CONCERN HERE, I AM LIKE YOU, I SEE THE CONDITIONS, I SEE THE POSSIBILITY, I HAVE NOT SEEN A FINAL PLAN TO SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, NO, THIS IS NOT WHAT THE CODE SAYS, THIS IS NOT WHAT THE CODE SAYS. THAT IS WHERE I AM OUT WITH THIS. I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING, I KIND OF AGREE WITH THAT. MADAME MAYOR ASKED YOU A QUESTION ABOUT THE DENSITY. YOU SAID 3. EVERYTHING IS 3. IT IS NOT AN ADDITIONAL FIVE. 
          >> IS A TOTAL OF 8.4. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE FUTURE LAND USE UNDERLINE. IT IS STILL THREE UNITS PER ACRE 
          TO START THE APPLICATION. >> WITH YOUR EXPERTISE AND ENGINEERING BRAIN, WHAT WILL BE A GREAT COMPROMISE BEFORE YOUR NUMBER AND HIS NUMBER? AND WHAT IS YOUR EXPERTISE? 
          >> WELL, SURE. SURE. SO, YOU WILL HAVE TO EVALUATE THE OVERALL SCOPE OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT. I WILL STAND ON THREE UNITS PER ACRE. CONSISTENT WITH THE ENTIRE AREA FROM 33RD TO HARTMAN ROAD. IT IS CONSISTENT. THERE ARE SOME PARCELS AT 33RD THAT WILL BE COMMERCIAL. I'M NOT TRYING TO BE TOO HARD ON THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF COMPROMISE IS HERE. THE CODE PROTECTS THE RESIDENCE, IT PROTECTS DEVELOPERS WHEN THEY BUY INTO LAND, THEY KNOW THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, THEY BOUGHT THE LAND FOR A PRICE LIKE MYSELF. YOU BUY IT FOR A PRICE AND YOU HAVE THE LAND RIGHT TO DO IT. YOU BOUGHT IT, YOU ARE THERE. THIS IS A SPECIAL EXCEPTION. WHEN YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS, I HAVE A HARD TIME WITH GETTING TO THE TABLE AND SAYING, WELL, I WILL ASK FOR 11.4 BUT MAYBE I WILL COME DOWN TO 8. YOU BOUGHT INTO IT, YOU HAVE THREE UNITS PER ACRE, PER RIGHT AND THIS 
          DEVELOPER HAS THAT RIGHT. >> WE CANNOT GET TO THE CODE 
          WITHOUT A FINAL PLAN. >> IF HE DEVELOPED TO TODAY WITH 
          HIS E3, HE WOULD BE FINE. >> THAT IS YOUR OPINION. 
          >> I AM A LAND RIGHTS PERSON, THAT IS WHAT HE IS ALLOWED TO 
          DO. >> OUR CODE ALLOWS HIM TO DO 
          WHAT WE ARE ASKING TO DO. >> YES, ANYBODY. 
          >> HE IS NOT DOING ANYTHING THAT IS NOT ALLOWED IN THE CODE? 
          >> THAT IS RIGHT. >> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE NEED TO MAXIMIZE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE TALK A LOT ABOUT THE ROADS. I WOULD VENTURE, HAVING 
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GROWN UP IN AN AREA WITH RURAL CAN -- CHARACTER, THE RURAL ROAD ADDS TO THE RURAL CHARACTER. WHAT IS THE THOUGHT ON THE RESIDENCE AND NEIGHBORS WANTING THE ROADWAY IMPROVED? 
          >> THEY WILL SAY NO. THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE BEHIND ME WHO MAY OR MAY NOT SPEAK, THEY WILL TELL YOU KNOW. DO NOT CHANGE WHAT IS EXISTING BECAUSE WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR CURB AND GUTTER AND STREETLIGHTS TO AFFECT OUR RURAL LIFESTYLE IN THE MIDDLE OF 
          THE CITY. >> THAT IS AN IMPORTANT POINT TO MAKE. THE NATURE OF ADJUSTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO FIT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS CHANGING THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THAT IS JUST A POINT I WANTED TO MAKE. 
          >> I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. >> DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE 
          QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO COMPILE ALL THAT INFORMATION. I SEE THE ACHILLES ISSUE WITH THIS PROJECT, IS THE ROADS. THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT ST. LUCIE COUNTY WILL HAVE QUITE A BIT TO SAY ABOUT THIS WHEN IT GETS SPUN UP INTO THEIR WORLD TO DEAL WITH THE ROAD SITUATION. BASED ON THAT CONCLUSION, I THINK IF YOU RECALL, I AM NOT A FAN OF THE PD PROCESS, FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. I UNDERSTAND WHY IT IS USED, HOW IT IS USED, AND HOW IT IS ABUSED DISTINCTLY, HAVING SAT ON THE PLANNING BOARD FOR AS MANY YEARS AS I DID. THIS IS AN INSTANCE WHERE THE DENSITY DOES NOT REFLECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT IS CLEAR. I DO AGREE WITH THAT. COMMISSIONER GAINES IS CORRECT THAT OUR CODE ALLOWS THEM TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS, BONUS UNIT SCENARIO, BECAUSE OF A BUS STOP. THAT IS A BIT OF A REACH AS WELL, THAT IS ONE OF THE EFFICIENCIES OF THE PD PROCESS, IT IS REASONABLE, PUT UP A BUS STRUCTURE AND GET AN ADDITIONAL FIVE UNITS PER ACRE. 
          THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A SECOND. HAVING THAT IN PLAY HERE, THE CONCLUSION HERE, IS THAT THE COUNTY WILL HAVE SOME VERY SERIOUS ISSUES WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDIES AND ROAD CONDITIONS. 
          THEY ARE ACCURATE ABOUT THE TIME THAT THIS GETS HERE FOR THE FINAL SITE PLAN FORM, HE WILL HAVE TO INCUR BASED ON WHATEVER THE COST IS PER MILE OF ROAD, IT IS EXTENSIVE. THERE IS EXTENSIVE WORK TO BE DONE. I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER GAINES, THIS IS NOT THE FINAL BITE OF THIS APPLE. THIS WILL COME BACK HERE IN SOME MODIFIED VERSION, BASED ON WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE. NOT JUST THE ROADS BUT SIDEWALKS, CURBING, DRAINAGE, A VERY COSTLY UNDERTAKING FOR THE DEVELOPER TO UNDERTAKE. THEN, DIRECTOR FREEMAN HAS ASKED THE QUESTION, WILL YOU PURSUE SOME TYPE OF ACCESS WHERE THE EASEMENT DOES NOT CONNECT WITH THEIR PROPERTY. 
          TRYING TO GET ACROSS THEIR PROPERTY FOR THIS ACCESS POINT. 
          I SEE THESE 14 CONDITIONS AS A MASSIVE MOUNTAIN TO CLIMB AND WHILE THE APPLICANT IS OPERATING WITHIN THE CONFINES OF OUR CODE, REALISTICALLY, THIS IS NOT GOING TO COME BACK IN THE CONDITION WE ARE SEEING IT TODAY. I HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THE FINANCIAL VIABILITY OF THIS PROJECT, BASED ON THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE SET FORTH FOR THE COUNTY. EVERYONE IS IN AGREEMENT HERE THAT HE IS OPERATING WITHIN THE CODE OF THE CITY. THE INTERVENOR HAS AGREED WITH THAT, PLANNING HAS PRESENTED THAT, WE ARE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT, HE IS DOING WHAT HE IS SUPPOSED TO DO, IF WE WERE TO GRANT OPERATING WITHIN THE ZONING AND PD WITHIN THAT SCENARIO. I AM DEFAULTING TO COMMISSIONER GAINES ON A REAL ESTATE MATTER WHICH I RARELY DO. 
          YOU ARE RIGHT, YOUR ANALYSIS OF THIS IS SPOT ON. YOU TOOK INFORMATION FROM THE INTERVENOR AND APPLIED IT TO THE PROBLEMS OF THIS PROJECT AND THESE PROBLEMS ARE GOING TO BE 
          EXTENSIVE. >> MADAME MAYOR, COMMISSION, I WILL JUMP IN. WE ARE AT THE POINT OF QUESTIONS FOR THE 
          INTERVENOR. >> MY APOLOGIES. 
          >> MADAME MAYOR, I AM DEEPLY CONCERNED HERE. WE AWAY THE 
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EVIDENCE AND CONJECTURE BACK AND FORTH ABOUT THIS AND OTHER THINGS, YOU KNOW, I AM GETTING UNCOMFORTABLE, WE HAVE SOMETHING BEFORE US AS JUDGES WHERE WE HAVE TO WEIGH OUT THE DECISION 
          S JUDGES TO MOVE FORWARD. >> RIGHT NOW, WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? DO YOU? 
          >> NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          >> DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, THAT IS WHERE WE ARE NOW. I WILL LOOK IN MY SCRIPT HERE AND SEE WHAT I'M DOING NEXT. IT IS NOW TIME FOR THE PARTY INTERVENOR AND THE STAFF AND APPLICANT WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE PARTY INTERVENOR. STAFF, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF THE 
          INTERVENOR? >> I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY THE VISION THAT THE INTERVENOR IS PROPOSING THAT WOULD BE 
          ACCEPTABLE FOR THE PROPERTY? >> I AM LOOKING AT THE LAYOUT AND BLOCK SIZES AND ARRANGEMENT OF PROPERTIES ON HIBISCUS, INDIANA, IS THAT THE SORT OF ARRANGEMENT THAT YOU ARE VISUALIZING FOR THIS? IS IT A LOWER DENSITY THAN EVEN THAT? 
          >> IT IS A LOWER DENSITY THAN THE EAST SIDE OF 33RD STREET. 
          THE EASTSIDE THAT YOU JUST REFERENCED, I AM ASSUMING YOU ARE REFERENCING THE EASTSIDE OF HIBISCUS. I BELIEVE THAT THOSE ARE MORE IN THE QUARTER ACRE LOT FASHION CONSISTENT WITH A MAJORITY I'LL FORT PIERCE, WITH THE MAJORITY OF SIZE LOTS. IN THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD BLOCK FROM PETERSON, 33RD TO HARTMAN, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A PARCEL THAT WOULD BE LESS THAN A THIRD ACRE OR HALF-ACRE INSIDE. I'M LOOKING FOR MORE OF THAT CONSISTENCY. I BELIEVE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS LOOKING FOR THE 
          SAME. >> IN ESSENCE, YOU ARE TREATING THIS BLOCK BETWEEN HARTMAN AND 33RD, PETERSON, THE BLOCK, ALMOST AS A SPECIAL CASE WHERE IT SITS IN THE CITY? 
          >> MAYBE NOT A SPECIAL CASE, SPECIFIC TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE , WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT BONUSES OR DENSITY BONUSES, WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH PROTECTION IN THE PD CODE? PROTECTION OF NATURAL RESOURCES, PROTECTING EXISTING ENVIRONMENTS, FOR EXISTING AND FUTURE ENVIRONMENTS? THOSE TYPES OF APPLICATIONS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW, IT IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THAT POINT OF 
          VIEW. >> OKAY. IS THAT IT, MR. FREEMAN? THE APPLICANT, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE 
          INTERVENOR? >> THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP YOUR CONCERNS. IT IS NOT NECESSARILY A QUESTION. 
          >> DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF HIM? 
          >> NO. >> THE PARTY INTERVENOR IS EXCUSED. SO, NOW WHAT WE HAVE, IS ANY OTHER MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND -- WILL GIVE YOU A WARNING OF 10 SECONDS AND LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. YES. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU, MS. MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. MY NAME IS DEBBIE STANLEY, I AM A HOMEOWNER ON WHITE WAY DAIRY. I LIVE ON THE SIDE OF WHITE WAY DAIRY THAT IS ONE LANE. THE OTHER SIDE OF WHITE WAY DAIRY IS TWO LANES. 
          BRINGING UP THE EAST-WEST TRAFFIC IS A BIG CONCERN. THEY ALREADY TERRORIZE US ON WHITE WAY DAIRY. IT IS TRUE, FOR JEREMIAH, FOR THAT POINT, WE LIKE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE LIKE THAT WE HAVE LARGE LOTS, WE LIKE THAT IT IS QUIET, WE LIKE THAT THE STREETS ARE THE WAY THAT THEY ARE, WE LIKE THAT THERE IS NOT A BUNCH OF SIDEWALKS, THERE ARE NOT STREETLIGHTS, YOU GET TO GO INTO YOUR FRONT YARD AND LOOK UP AT THE SKY AND SEE ALL THE STARS. WE DON'T WANT THE TRAFFIC. WE DO NOT WANT NEW AND 
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IMPROVED ROADS. WE DO NOT WANT EVERYONE CUTTING THROUGH. THEY ALREADY DO. TO A LESSER DEGREE. ADD 60 MORE UNITS, THAT WILL BRING ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, THAT WILL BRING A LOT MORE TRAFFIC. 
          ESPECIALLY WITH BENT CREEK UP THERE, THAT IS HUMONGOUS AND THAT IS WHERE WE GET A LOT OF CUT THROUGH ALREADY, ESPECIALLY PETERSON ROAD IS A BUSY STREET. IT IS NOT. HIS PROPOSAL IS NOT IN LINE WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WITH OUR COMMUNITY. THREE OF MY NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE NEXT DOOR, THAT WERE UNABLE TO BE HERE THIS EVENING. THEY ALLOWED ME TO GIVE THEIR NAMES AND ALSO SPEAK INTO THEIR OPPOSITION OF THIS REZONING. PLEASE, I HOPE YOU TAKE EVERYTHING INTO CONSIDERATION AND DO NOT LET THIS REZONING GO THROUGH. PLEASE LET OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STAY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE ARE A LITTLE JEWEL IN FORT PIERCE THAT UNFORTUNATELY , WE ARE AFRAID IT IS GOING TO GO AWAY. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WOULD LIKE TO GO NEXT? PLEASE COME FORWARD. WERE YOU SWORN IN? YOUR NAME? 
          >> MY NAME IS WILLIE JOHNSON. >> YOUR ADDRESS? 
          >> I ACTUALLY LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT LOT. WERE THE YELLOW SQUARE IS, I AM RIGHT THERE. THAT IS MY HOUSE. NOTHING MAKES ME FEEL BETTER THAN KNOWING I WAKE UP IN THE MORNING OR AT NIGHTTIME, I HAVE A BIG BAY WINDOW IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, I CAN LOOK OUT THE WINDOW AND THERE IS NOTHING THERE. I DO NOT WANT TO COME OUTSIDE AND BE HANGING OUT AT NIGHTTIME AND BE SEEING TRAFFIC LIGHTS AND LOOKING ACROSS THE STREET, SEEING LIGHTS. LIKE THE LADY SAID, IT IS DARK, THERE IS NOTHING OUT THERE, IT IS LIKE THE COUNTRY INSIDE THE CITY. 
          THAT IS HOW WE LIKE IT. I HAVE FRIENDS WHO HAVE LIVED IN FORT PIERCE THEIR WHOLE LIFE AND THEY COME TO MY HOUSE, I NEVER KNEW THIS WAS OUT THERE. SO, I HAVE DOGS. I LIKE THE FACT THAT MY DOGS CAN RUN AROUND THE FRONT YARD AND NOT BOTHER NOBODY. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? WE GET KIDS IN TRAFFIC AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. ANOTHER FACT, WILL MOVE IN ACROSS THE STREET? WHEN ME AND MY WIFE GO TO WORK, THERE IS A KID STANDING OUT FRONT. THE JOHNSONS HAVE LEFT, LET'S GO. THERE ARE NO CAMERAS, THERE IS NOTHING OUT THERE. YEAH. WE NEED TO KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS. WE HAVE WILDLIFE, PIGS AND FOXES AND EVERYTHING AROUND THERE. PONDS AND ALLIGATORS, WHO HAS THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF FORT PIERCE? FOXES AND COYOTES SOMETIMES. BOBCATS, WHO HAS THAT IN FORT PIERCE? TRAFFIC, ALL OF THAT STUFF IS GOING TO GO AWAY. 
          SO. >> THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU 
          VERY MUCH. WANTS TO GO NEXT? >> GOOD EVENING, I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. MY NAME IS DEAN BARRY, I'M THE ENGINEER OF RECORD FOR THE DESIGN THAT WAS SHOWN AND THE TRAFFIC REPORTS. I JUST WANT TO REITERATE, THE TOTAL TRAFFIC IMPACT IS REALLY 20 VEHICLES DURING THE PEAK HOUR. THAT IS NOT VERY MANY CARS AT ALL. IT IS NOT GOING TO TRIGGER ANY IMPACT WITH COUNTY ROADS. IT WILL NOT TRIGGER THE NEED FOR ANY IMPROVEMENTS OUT THERE, IT IS SUCH A SMALL TRAFFIC IMPACT. WITH 60 UNITS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED, LOOKING TO THE LEFT AND TO THE RIGHT, I BELIEVE IT IS A GREAT FIT. IT IS ALREADY IN A HYBRID ZONE. LOOKING TO THE SOUTH, THIS LARGE -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS. IT IS SOME SORT OF VERY LARGE JUNKYARD OR SOMETHING, OFF OF WHITE DAIRY ROAD, A CEMETERY TO THE NORTH. JUST LIKE ANY BEAUTIFUL DEVELOPMENT, A BEAUTIFUL PERIMETER AND A WONDERFUL LOOKING ENTRANCE TO THIS PLACE. ENGINEERING WISE, IT IS A GREAT FIT. THERE IS A BEAUTIFUL STRUCTURE OF COUNTY NATIVE WETLAND AREA THAT WILL ALWAYS REMAIN. MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION IS THAT A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE SAID BY JEREMIAH WERE A LITTLE BIT EXAGGERATED, AND THAT FAR OFF. UNDERSTANDING THAT 
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A CLIENT HAS LAID OUT A WONDERFUL PLAN TO ADD IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CITY WHERE THE CITY AND A LOT OF THIS AREA IS TO THE COUNTY ANYWAY, IT IS NOT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. THE COUNTY WILL HAVE TO SAY ABOUT SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. IF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE PLANS TO TAKE ALL OF THE OTHER PIECES OF LAND AND ADD THEM TO THE CITY TOO, THERE WOULD NOT BE MUCH TO SAY ABOUT ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAS COME INTO THAT AREA. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU, SIR. WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME NEXT? PLEASE COME 
          FORWARD. >> I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN, MY NAME IS TIFFANY KOBER. I'M NERVOUS. 
          >> DON'T BE NERVOUS. >> I LIVE ON WHITE WAY DAIRY AND HARTMAN. MY HOME IS ON WHITE WAY DAIRY, WE LOVE IT THAT WAY, THAT IS WHY WE BOUGHT THERE. IT IS QUIET, I CAN GO OUT AND LOOK AT THE STARS , YOU DON'T GET TO DO THAT IN THE CITY VERY OFTEN, THERE ARE LIGHTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SORRY. AS FAR AS THE SIDEWALKS AND THE ROADS, WE DO NOT WANT THAT TO CHANGE. WE DO NOT WANT SIDEWALKS, WE DO NOT WANT LIGHTS IN THERE. WE DO NOT WANT MORE TRAFFIC. YOU KNOW, WE ARE CLOSE ENOUGH WHERE WE CAN BE AROUND EVERYTHING AND STILL GO HOME AND FEEL LIKE WE ARE IN THE HUSTLE AND BUSTLE OF THE CITY ALL THE TIME. THERE ARE COOKIE-CUTTER HOMES GOING UP EVERYWHERE AND THAT DOES NOT FIT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AT ALL. I KNOW IT IS BASICALLY GOING TO BE 16 UNITS OF COOKIE-CUTTER HOMES THAT YOU WALK INTO. I WAS TAKING NOTES WHEN THEY WERE ALL TALKING. IN REGARDS TO THE REZONING, I CANNOT REALLY ASK QUESTIONS. I DON'T KNOW. AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE DO NOT WANTED TO CHANGE, WE LIKE IT THE WAY IT IS, WE DO NOT WANT THE IMPROVEMENTS. JUST LEAVE US THE WAY THAT WE ARE. AND WE DRIVE ON IT, I AM FINE WITH IT. IT DOES NOT HURT THE VEHICLES, WE ARE FINE WITH IT. WE WOULD RATHER IT STAY THE WAY IT IS AND NOT BRING ANYBODY ELSE INTO IT. EVEN THREE TO AN ACRE, THAT IS MORE THAN WE WOULD PREFER. WE DO NOT WANT MORE THAN THAT, I DO NOT KNOW WHY THAT IS EVEN ALLOWED THAT I DO NOT KNOW THE INS AND OUTS OF THAT, HE SHOULD NOT BE IN MY OPINION. IF WE CAN KEEP IT THAT WAY, THAT WOULD BE BEST. IN REGARDS TO THE REZONING. EVEN IF IT GETS REZONED, YOU ARE SAYING, THEY WILL GO THROUGH, WE DO NOT WANT TO SPEND THAT MONEY. 
          SOMEONE ELSE CAN COME ALONG AND THEY DO NOT HAVE TO SPEND THAT MONEY AND CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN. TO NOT REZONE IT WOULD BE BEST AND KEEP IT TO THREE PER ACRE. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO NEXT? PLEASE COME FORWARD, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO RAISE YOUR HAND, PLEASE COME 
          FORWARD. >> HELLO, COMMISSION, MY NAME IS RHONDA PERRY, I WAS SWORN IN. I LIVE AT 5080 WEST VIRGINIA DRIVE. IT IS NOT CLOSE TO THIS AREA. WHAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING AND WHY THIS GOES ALONG WITH WHAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH. I'M GRATEFUL FOR JEREMIAH AND ALL OF THE KNOWLEDGE HE HAS AND ALL OF THAT. I DO NOT HAVE ANY OF THAT. 
          WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS, FORT PIERCE ALLOWS SOME COUNTRY LIVING, VERSUS PORT ST. LUCIE. THESE RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA WILL BE AFFECTED BY THE DENSITY. HOW DO I KNOW THAT? BECAUSE I HAVE 188 HOMES THAT WERE PUT BEHIND MY HOUSE, MY RESIDENTIAL AREA OFF OF MIDWAY ROAD. YES, IT LOOKS PRETTY, THEY MADE ALL THE PROMISES. BUT I AM DISTURBED BY, THEY FLY UP AND DOWN THE ROAD BEHIND US, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO PLAY THEIR MUSIC LOUD. THEY WILL BE AFFECTED. THE STANDARDS OF THE ROAD IS A CONCERN. THE COUNTY HAS TO APPROVE THAT. IF YOU APPROVE THIS, IT IS A BACK-AND-FORTH THING, IN MY OPINION. WHO AM I? WE JUST DO NOT WANT TO SEE FORT PIERCE AND WHITE CITY BECOME PORT ST. 
          LUCIE. THERE IS HARDLY ANY LAND THERE. WE HAVE THE TRAFFIC WHICH IS UNBELIEVABLE. I LIVE OFF OF MIDWAY ROAD. WE HAVE ACCIDENTS CONSTANTLY. IT DOES NOT SEEM LIKE THERE IS ENOUGH POLICEMAN TO PATROL THE SPEED, WITHOUT THAT BEING DONE, ON ALL OF THESE SMALL ROADS, WE WILL HAVE CONTINUED GROWTH, CONTINUED ACCIDENTS, CONTINUED PROBLEMS. SO, IT IS MY OPINION THAT YOU GUYS SHOULD REALLY CONSIDE ALLOWING THE PROPERTY TO BE BUILT ON AND MAKE IT MORE SUITABLE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I 
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DO NOT KNOW WHY THESE DEVELOPERS COME IN AND THINK THAT THEY CAN MAX OUT EVERYTHING. WHY CAN YOU NOT DO HOMES AND AREAS LIKE HALF-ACRE LOTS? EVEN QUARTER ACRE LOTS ARE BETTER THAN SMASHING ON THESE HOMES THERE. IF THEY CAN'T GO THROUGH WITH THIS, WILL THEY DO THREE OR FOUR STORY APARTMENTS LIKE IN WHITE CITY? IT IS OVER-THE-TOP AND YOU GUYS PROBABLY HEAR THIS ALL THE TIME, SO DOES THE COUNTY. IF IT WAS NOT FOR THE PEOPLE COMING HERE AND SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THOSE WHO DO NOT WANT TO SPEAK UP AND FEEL THE SAME WAY, I THINK THIS PLACE WOULD BE NOTHING BUT WALL-TO-WALL ROOFTOPS. I WOULD APPRECIATE YOU 
          CONSIDERING WHAT YOU ALLOW. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM, WOULD LIKE 
          TO GO NEXT? WERE YOU SWORN IN? >> YES MA'AM. 
          >> WHAT IS YOUR NAME? >> LUIS SOTO. I LIVE IN 1940 RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, I MOVED FROM BROWARD IN 2020 AND I BROUGHT MY WHOLE FAMILY WITH ME. MY KIDS WITH ME AND EVERYTHING. 
          TO ME, IT IS LIKE WHAT THE GUY SAID. IF YOU ALREADY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GETTING YOURSELF INTO. WHEN I BOUGHT MY PROPERTY, I DID NOT EXPECT BIG APARTMENTS OR NO OFFENSE TO NOBODY, HOOD RAT STREETS AND STREETS. YOU UNDERSTAND, WE ARE IN A LITTLE TOWN, WE DO NOT LIKE LIGHTS IN OUR STREETS, WE ARE OKAY WITH HOW IT IS. FOR ME TO BRING MY FAMILY OVER HERE AND RAISE THEM IN THE COUNTRY AND NOW YOU WANT TO CHANGE AND BRING SOMETHING THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU SIGNED UP FOR. WITH THE PROPERTY, YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN, THIS IS WHAT IT IS. IF YOU WANTED TO BID ON APARTMENTS, HE SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT THOSE DOWNING ORANGE. YOU KNOW? THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. 
          >> THANK YOU, SIR. SOMEBODY BACK HERE WANTED TO GO? GO AHEAD. 
          COME OVER HERE AND LINED UP ALONG THE WALL. OR YOU CAN MOVE 
          FORWARD. >> I'M NERVOUS, GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS 
          NANCY HERNANDEZ. >> WERE YOU SWORN IN, MA'AM? 
          >> I WAS. I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH MY HUSBAND AT ONE-YEAR-OLD. WE WILL BE CELEBRATING OUR ONE-YEAR ANNIVERSARY IN THE HOME. A HOME WE CHOSE BECAUSE IT IS A TRUE PIECE OF PARADISE. THE PIECE, THE PRIVACY, THE FAMILY ATMOSPHERE. LIKE ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS MENTIONED, I HAVE FAMILY OVER AND THEY SAY, WE NEVER EXPECTED THIS IN FORT PIERCE. I'M BLESSED TO WORK FROM HOME AND I AM A STAY-AT-HOME MOM WITH MY DAUGHTER, SO I EXPERIENCED THE NEIGHBORHOOD EVERY DAY. THE CALM AND PEACEFUL DRIVE THROUGH THE STREET MAKES IT SAFE, IT IS A WELCOMING PLACE WHERE MY DAUGHTER CAN GROW UP FEELING SAFE AND WITH ALL OF THE BEAUTY AROUND HER. IT IS THE KIND OF PLACE WHERE I HOPE WE CONTINUE TO GROW OUR FAMILY. THE ROAD ITSELF MAY NOT BE PRETTY, PICTURE-PERFECT, BUT DRIVING DOWN IT, IT IS TRULY SPECIAL, IT IS A CLOSE KNIT NEIGHBORHOOD, IT FEELS LIKE WARMTH AND SAFETY AND PEACE. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE FIGHTING TO PROTECT. I OPPOSE THE PROPOSED ZONING DEVELOPMENT. I AM A LITTLE TINY HALF-ACRE NEXT-DOOR. THAT CHANGE WILL BRING MORE TRAFFIC, NOISE, AND EVEN SOME DANGER THAT ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS MENTIONED. IT WILL DISRUPT THE PEACEFUL CHARACTER THAT MAKES THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SO SPECIAL. WITH THE CITY QUICKLY GROWING, I TRULY BELIEVE THAT IT WILL BE DIFFICULT TO FIND ANOTHER HAVEN LIKE THIS. WE SPENT SO MUCH TIME LOOKING FOR DIFFERENT HOMES AND I STILL REMEMBER WHEN WE WENT FOR, I FORGOT THE NAME OF THE APPOINTMENT, WHERE YOU GO LOOK AT HOUSES. WE DROVE IN AND ME AND MY HUSBAND WERE LIKE, WELL, THIS IS IT. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO GROW. THIS IS NOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR IT. 
          THIS IS THE PLACE WHERE THE FAMILIES THAT ARE THERE DESERVE TO KEEP LIVING IN THIS BEAUTIFUL AND PEACEFUL LIFE THAT WE HAVE. 
          I'M SORRY, I'M NERVOUS, GUYS. 
          >> IT'S ALL RIGHT. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY, PLEASE CONSIDER THE VOICES, SHAKY OR NOT OF YOUR RESIDENCE. WHEN MAKING YOUR DECISION. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WHO IS NEXT? 
          >> HI, I AM SHERRY MOONEY, I HAVE GROWN UP HERE MY WHOLE 
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LIFE, I HAVE LIVED HERE MY WHOLE LIFE. I LIVE AT 3901 PETERSON ROAD, MY FATHER HAS A ROAD -- HOUSE WHERE I GREW UP, AND RESOURCES. WE HAVE FOUR ACRES. LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE. WE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO LIVE THERE. YOU ALL ARE GOING TO GO HOME AND THEN WE ARE LIVING WITH WHATEVER HAS BEEN DEVELOPED THERE. WE KNOW THAT SOME OF IT IS GOING TO DEVELOP. THERE ARE GOING TO BE HOMES , NOT APARTMENT RENTALS, NOT STACKED ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. WE WANT WHAT WE HAVE AROUND US FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO ENJOY AS WELL. WE UNDERSTAND IT IS GOING TO CHANGE. LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO LIVE THERE. WE WOULD LIKE IT TO STAY THE QUIET PLACE THAT IT IS. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WILL BE DEVELOPMENT, AND IT WILL CHANGE. WE HAVE HUGE OWLS THAT FLY OVER OUR PROPERTY. THE WOODPECKERS, A PAIR OF THEM THAT HANGOUT IN OUR YARD. WE SEE THE BOBCATS, THE FOXES, IT IS GOING TO SLOWLY CHANGE. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE THAT. IT IS ZONED 
          FOR A REASON, THANK YOU. >> I AM HER HUSBAND, DONALD. 
          >> SAVE YOUR LAST NAME AGAIN. >> DONALD MOONEY. THANK YOU. 
          >> BY KEEPING ZONING THE WAY IT IS, AND INSTEAD OF, I DON'T MIND IT. THE 13 ACRES AROUND US WILL EVENTUALLY BE DEVELOPED. 
          INSTEAD OF HAVING 13 POSSIBLE FAMILIES LOOKING IN OUR BACKYARD, IF IT GETS CHANGED TO WHAT THIS GENTLEMAN WANTS TO DO, WE MAY HAVE 50 FAMILIES LOOKING OUR BACKYARD. APARTMENTS. THAT IS HOW IT AFFECTS US. THE TRAFFIC GOING DOWN HARTMAN AND PETERSON , IT IS MORE AND MORE EVERY SINGLE DAY. THAT IS ALL I WANTED TO SAY ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WHO IS NEXT? 
          >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS KELLY RANDALL, I AM A PROPERTY OWNER IN SOUTH SEVENTH STREET, HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. I'M ASKING YOU TO NOT CONTINUE WITH THE REQUEST FOR ZONING CHANGE AT 1038 S. 37TH STREET. THE PROPOSAL DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR APPROVAL WITH THE PROXIMITY TO PUBLIC TRANSIT. 
          IN ADDITION, I HAVE DIFFERENT NOTES FROM THE NIGHT. THREE UNITS PER ACRE IS WHAT EVERY PARCEL IS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          MOST HAVE SUBSTANTIALLY FEW UNITS PER ACRE ON AVERAGE. THIS WILL CHANGE WITH THE IDEA OF A FUTURE ROADBLOCK , THOSE 14 NOTES OR HOWEVER THAT WILL BE FOR THE COUNTY TO APPROVE, IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE. 60 UNITS DOES NOT FIT WITH CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE INFRA STRUCTURE DOES NOT SUPPORT THE DENSITY. NO ROOM FOR PROTECTION FOR ADJACENT PROPERTIES TO MAINTAIN THE CURRENT LOVED QUALITY OF LIVING. DOES NOT ALLOW FOR MAINTAINING THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENDING ENOUGH ROOM LEFT FOR NATURAL CHARACTERISTICS. THE IDEA THAT THE ACCESS TO GAS AND ELECTRIC RIGHT AWAY'S DOES NOT PROVIDE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS WHICH IS KEY TO THE DENSITY BONUS. 
          PLEASE DO NOT PROVIDE THE DENSITY BONUS FOR A SITE WITH NO SIDEWALKS OR PEDESTRIAN ROUTES TO SCHOOLS OR PARKS. SUBSTANDARD ROADS AS WE ALL DISCUSSED. THE LACK OF STREETLIGHT DOES NOT FIT WITH THESE RUNNING AREA AND WE WANT TO STAY THAT WAY. NOT WANTED BY THE CURRENT RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY. IN ADDITION, I DO NOT WANT TO GIVE UP THE AMOUNT OF LAND THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO AMEND THE ROADS TO ALLOW THE HIGH DESTINY. THIS IS A PLAN TO MAKE A QUICK BUCK. IT DESTROYS THE ATMOSPHERE OF THE COMMITTEE FOR A DEVELOPER. IF NOT THE ONE PRESENT, THE ONE THAT CAN BE COMING ALONG WITH BIGGER POCKETS TO WHOM THE PROPERTY COULD BE SOLD. PLEASE KEEP THE ZONING AS IT IS. THANK 
          YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. NEXT? 
          >> GOOD EVENING, I AM KELLY JOHNSON, A RESIDENT OF FORT PIERCE AND I WAS SWORN IN. SOMETIMES, PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN A SLOWER AND RURAL PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD SO THEY RESEARCH BEFORE THEY BUY THEIR PROPERTY. AND BUILD THEIR HOMES. WE PURCHASE LAND AND BUILD HOMES KNOWING THAT 1038 S. 37TH 
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STREET, PART OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS ZONED FOR SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, NOT 60 RESIDENTIAL UNITS OR 240 EXTRA PEOPLE. THAT IS 120 CARS, AT LEAST. I KNOW THAT ZONING CAN CHANGE, WE VOTED YOU IN OFFICE BECAUSE WE TRUST YOU TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS THAT UPHOLD THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE STAKEHOLDER INTERESTS. DO NOT REZONE. WE ALWAYS HEAR SMART DEVELOPMENT. SMART DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE PURCHASING PROPERTY THAT IS ALREADY ZONED FOR YOUR INTENTIONS, AT LEAST CLOSE. THIS IS NOT SMART DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS FOUR TIMES THE HOMES THAT THIS LAND WAS INTENDED FOR. THIS IS SOMEONE TRYING TO MAKE MONEY ON GOAL RESIDENTIAL FAMILY PROPERTY. IT SEEMS LIKE ALSO THERE ARE SO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS. IF YOU ALLOW FOR THE REZONING TONIGHT, THERE ARE SO MANY ITEMS ADDED TO THE 14 REQUIREMENTS AND I DON'T EVEN THINK THAT ANYBODY WROTE THEM DOWN. HE AGREED TO SO MANY THINGS THAT WERE GOING TO HAPPEN, I WOULD BE WORRIED THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. PLEASE, DO NOT REZONE. IF YOU ALLOW THIS REZONING, IT WILL OPEN THE FLOODGATES TO ALL OF THE OTHER EMPTY PARCELS AROUND THE PROPERTY AND INFRASTRUCTURE DEFINITELY CANNOT HANDLE THAT. ONCE YOU REZONE ONE, EVERYONE ELSE WILL WANT TO REZONE ALSO. THOSE ROADS AND THAT INFRASTRUCTURE CANNOT HANDLE THAT. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WHO IS NEXT? THAT'S IT? OKAY. NOW IT IS TIME FOR THE APPLICANT TO MAKE FINAL COMMENTS. YOU HAVE 
          THREE MINUTES. >> THANKS AGAIN, FOR TAKING THE TIME TO GO OVER EVERYTHING WITH MY APPLICATION. I HOPE IN THE QUASI-JUDICIAL SETTING, AS JUDGES, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING THAT IS NOT ALREADY ALLOWED TODAY UNDER THE FUTURE LAND USE. WE HAVE THE UNANIMOUS APPROVAL OF THE PLANNING BOARD, WE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AND IT IS MY INTENTION TO MAKE THIS DEVELOPMENT A BENEFIT TO THE RESIDENCE OF FORT PIERCE, PROVIDING MUCH-NEEDED ECONOMICALLY VIABLE HOUSING TO AN EMPTY LOT THAT HAS BEEN VACANT, SINCE RECORDS EXIST. I FEEL THAT IF THIS ZONING WAS APPROPRIATE, IT WOULD NOT REMAIN VACANT SINCE. ARGUABLY SINCE 1901 WHEN THE CITY WAS 
          INCORPORATED. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT IS TIME FOR THE INTERVENER TO MAKE LAST FINAL COMMENTS. YOU HAVE 
          THREE MINUTES. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. JEREMIAH JOHNSON, AGAIN FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU TO EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU FOR LISTENING TO US TONIGHT, AND THE PRESENTATION FOR AND AGAINST. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND EFFORTS AND YOUR LISTENING EARS. FINAL COMMENTS FROM ME, SPECIFICALLY. YOU KNOW, OUR CODE PROTECTS MANY ASPECTS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. FIRST OF ALL, WE NEED TO HAVE SOUND NEIGHBORHOODS. OUR FOREFATHERS STRUCTURED THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IN 19 ALONG WITH SPECIFIC VISIONS. IT GREW TO 25TH STREET WHERE IT WAS A DIRT ROAD. AND THEN ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE TURNPIKE AT THIS POINT AND BEYOND. SO, SOUND NEIGHBORHOODS, NUMBER ONE. SAFETY, NUMBER TWO. 
          AND PARTNERSHIP WITH SOUND NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY GO HAND IN HAND. SAFETY IS VERY IMPORTANT. ZONING MUST BE TRANSITIONAL TO PROMOTE SAFETY AND WELFARE OF OUR COMMUNITY AND FOLKS. 
          INCREASING DENSITY PUTS A STRAIN ON CRITICAL RESOURCES, PUBLIC WORKS, FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT I'VE HEARD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT. FIRE AND UTILITIES. THIS IS INFRASTRUCTURE STRAIN AND THAT IS A PROBLEM AND SHOULD NOT COST US, THE TAXPAYERS OR RATEPAYERS OF ANY OF THOSE. THE DESIGN NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED OR WHAT IS PROPOSED IN THIS APPLICATION. WE HAVE A FENCE PROPOSED ON THIS PLAN. YES, MORE DETAIL IS GOING INTO IT. WE ARE LOOKING FOR SETBACKS, BUFFERING, THE ESTATE PLANNING DISTRICT IS THERE FOR A REASON WITH THE FRONT YARD VIEW, SIDEBAR AND REARGUARD. THE SIZES ARE CONGRUENT TO THAT. 
          DEVELOPMENT SHOULD NOT BE PAID FOR BY TAXPAYERS. I JUST SAID THAT. WHAT HAPPENS IS, WHEN WE PIECEMEAL INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS. TAXPAYERS END UP PAYING. DEVELOPMENT SHOULD PAY FOR ITSELF THROUGHOUT EVERY APPLICATION. I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT SECTION 125 IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH WHICH I READ EARLIER 
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TONIGHT, WAS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF THE CHAPTER AND THE GOALS TO FURTHER OBJECTIVES AND GOALS OF THE OBJECTIVE TO LESSEN CONGESTION ON OUR STREETS TO PROMOTE HEALTH AND GENERAL WELFARE, TO PREVENT OVERCROWDING OF LAND, TO AVOID CONCENTRATION THE PROVISION OF PUBLIC AND ATE- PRIVATE TRANSPORTATION, WATER, PUBLIC UTILITY SERVICES, AND SCHOOL BUS STOP. I RODE ON A BUS THAT WENT DOWN DIRT ROADS ALL THE TIME GO I DID NOT LIKE IT. I HOPE MY GRANDKIDS DO NOT HAVE TO WRITE DOWN BUSES ON DIRT ROADS. 
          I SEE THAT WITH A SMILE, THAT IS THE TRUTH. LASTLY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FIVE ACRE DENSITY BONUS APPLIES WITHOUT THE CRA BOUNDARIES. I BELIEVE THAT IT DOES. I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE OF THAT AND, IS THERE ENOUGH RIGHT-OF-WAY TO MAKE ANY IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU, SIR. NOW, THE STAFF , MR. FREEMAN, DO YOU HAVE 
          ANY FINAL COMMENTS? >> KNOW. THANK YOU. 
          >> SO, THE APPLICANT, YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO SAY. YOU ARE GOOD? YOU'RE GOOD? OKAY. OH RIGHT, THE TIME FOR QUESTIONS IS CLOSED. WE WILL PROCEED WITH THE COMMISSION. YOU HAD YOUR TIME TO TALK, NOW IT IS OUR TIME TO DISCUSS AND VOTE TO APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE. SO. WHO WOULD LIKE 
          TO START? >> MATTA MAYOR? 
          >> YES SIR. >> I GUESS I WILL GO. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY AND THANK YOU TO THE INTERVIEWER AND APPLICANT FOR PROVIDING SOME VERY DEEP FULL -- DETAILED PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT. 
          I THINK THIS, AS IT FEELS WITH MOST THINGS IN THE CITY OPENS UP A BROADER CONVERSATION ABOUT INCONSISTENCIES IN OUR CODE AND SOME THINGS THAT ARE OPEN TO CERTAIN WAYS OF INTERPRETATION THAT CAN LEAD US AWAY FROM WHAT THE INTENT OF THESE THINGS WERE MEANT TO BE. BECAUSETHE WAY I WOULD INTEND THE LENGTH TO GET TO A PUBLIC TRANSIT WOULD BE WALKING DISTANCE. IT IS WITHIN A RADIAL DISTANCE TO BE MEASURED ANYWAY. HOWEVER, NOT GETTING DISTRACTED BY THAT, LOOKING AT THE COMPATIBILITY OF THE DENSITY BONUS ITSELF AND COMPATIBILITY REVIEW, WHETHER THE INCREASE IN DENSITY WILL DECREASE VISUAL ACCESS FROM THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT, ANY MATERIAL IMPROVEMENT NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE OF THE FACILITIES ARE NEGATIVE IMPACTS BASED IN OUR CODE. WHICH MAKES THIS INELIGIBLE FOR THE FLEXIBLE DEVELOPMENT IDENTIFIED IN THIS SECTION. AS WELL AS, IF WE ARE LOOKING AT PD DEVELOPMENT, THERE IS A COMPATIBILITY ISSUE AND NOT AS WELL WHERE I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS INCOMPATIBLE DENSITY WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. COMPATIBILITY, WHILE GENERALLY SUBJECTIVE, IT IS OUTLINED PRETTY CLEARLY IN HERE. THE DENSITY FOR THE PROPERTY TO SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS IS INCOMPATIBLE. THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THE POCKETS THAT WE HAVE LEFT IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY HAVE TO BE PROTECTED. I LIVE IN ONE. WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT AFTER THIS. 
          GOD IS DOING THE SAME THING. ONE IS ENOUGH GOING TO BE ENOUGH? WHEN ARE WE GOING TO STOP AND PROTECT THESE LITTLE POCKETS THAT WE HAVE WITH LARGER ACRES, LARGER ESTATE SIZE TO ZONING AND WE ARE FAR PAST THE TIME WHERE WE SHOULD'VE CHANGED THE CODE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY. I BELIEVE THE CODE IS ABLE TO BE INTERPRETED THAT WAY. I BELIEVE THIS IS COMPLETELY INCOMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS AND I WILL NOT BE 
          SUPPORTING IT. >> WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO NEXT? 
          COMMISSIONER BRODERICK? >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR MAKES A GOOD ARGUMENT WITH COMPATIBILITY, I AGREE. THE NEIGHBORS THAT RESIDE IN THIS AREA HAVE MADE A VERY COMPELLING ARGUMENT AGAINST THE DENSITY. IF MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT, ARE WE ABLE TO ASK DIRECTOR FREEMAN QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT? 
          >> NO. >> WELL I BELIEVE A PORTION OF 
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THE CODE RELATIVE TO THE BONUS IS BASED ON SOME TYPE OF CREATIVE DEVELOPMENT ASPECT. THAT IS NOT THE TERMINOLOGY SPECIFICALLY, BUT IT IS PRETTY CLOSE THERE. I DO NOT SEE WHERE THIS DEVELOPMENT, EXCEPT FOR THE DENSITY, IS PROVIDING ANY CREATIVE ELEMENT. I HAVE SEEN MANY OF THESE COME FORWARD, AS I STATED EARLIER, I AM NOT A FAN OF THE PD PROCESS IN ITS ENTIRETY. I BELIEVE IT IS A NAVIGATION AROUND CODE REQUIREMENTS. I DO NOT SEE CREATIVE ASPECTS OF IT, I DO NOT SEE COMPATIBILITY ISSUES, I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH COMPATIBILITY AND DENSITY. I'M CURIOUS TO HEAR WHAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE TO SAY ON THIS, I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS TYPE OF THING CROPPING UP THROUGHOUT THE CITY. IT HAS BEEN CROPPING UP ALL OVER THE PLACE FOR YEARS NOW. 
          >> MATTA MAYOR, I THINK A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE. YOU KNOW. THE CHALLENGE BETWEEN THE DENSITY AND WHAT IS CURRENTLY ZONED AND WHAT THE PROPERTY OWNER IS LOOKING TO TAKE IT TO AND THEN THE PROCESS THAT FITTING THIS IN, RIGHT, IS WHERE THE DISCUSSIONS RELATE CLOSE TO WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE AND HOW DOES THIS IMPACT THAT? IN YOUR EARLIER COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, THERE ARE MANY THINGS HERE, WHAT MAKES THIS COMPLEX, WE ARE A CITY, THIS IS ALL COUNTY ZONING, RIGHT NOW. WE ARE BEING ASKED TO WEIGH IN ON SOMETHING THAT QUITE FRANKLY SHOULD BE THE COUNTY AND WE SHOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN THIS. 
          THIS IS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR, THIS MAP. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE. 
          RIGHT? CITY, COUNTY, MIXED UP, WE HAVE CONFLICTS HERE. RIGHT? AND SO, AT SOME POINT, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EXISTING IN OUR CITY, WE CALLED ENCLAVES. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS JUST TODAY, ABOUT ENCLAVES. THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT WE HAD, THAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT BECAUSE HERE IT IS IN REAL TIME. AND FOR THE GENERAL AUDIENCE OUT THERE, ALL THE ENCLAVE IS THAT WE HAVE COUNTY MIXED IN AND WE HAVE TO PROVIDE OUR SERVICES IF IT IS A CITY RESIDENT AND THERE ARE MANY OTHER COUNTIES WHERE YOU ARE GETTING DOUBLE PUNISHED BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SEND RESOURCES THERE WHEN IT COMES TO REFUGE AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO GO DOWN THERE. THIS IS A PROBLEM IN REAL TIME. THIS IS A 25-014 HEARING WHERE WE HEARD THE EVIDENCE, I HEARD THE EVIDENCE. 
          IN THIS PARTICULAR POINT, AS WE LOOK AT WHAT MOTIONS WILL COME FORWARD THAT IS HOW WE WILL LOOK AT THIS AND EVALUATED. I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR COMING AND SHARING COMMENTS, I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT, IT HELPS. BUT ALSO, I HAVE TO COME DOWN ON CERTAIN ASPECTS THAT ARE FACTUAL AND REALLY KIND OF DEAL WITH THAT, SO THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. 
          >> COMMISSIONER GAINES? >> THANK YOU TO THE PUBLIC FOR COMING OUT, AS ONE WHO HAS GROWN UP IN FORT PIERCE, I UNDERSTAND YOUR PAIN. THIS COMES DOWN TO ME AS LEGAL BLACK AND WHITE. 
          QUASI-JUDICIAL , BLACK AND WHITE. I ASKED THE QUESTION, DID THIS DEVELOPER DO ANYTHING THAT IS NOT ALLOWED IN OUR CODE? I SAID BEFORE, I WILL SAY IT AGAIN. WE HAVE DONE THIS EVERY TIME SOMETHING LIKE THIS COMES, WE SAY WE WILL COME BACK AND LOOK AT THIS CODE AND WE NEVER DO. I AM TORN HERE, BECAUSE I HAVE SAID HERE IN OTHER CASES LIKE THIS, WE FOLLOW THE CODE TO THE T. THE YOUNG LADY THAT CAME UP TALKING ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT BEHIND HER HOUSE THAT SHE IS LOOKING AT, SAME ARGUMENTS AND WE FOLLOWED THE CODE TO THE T BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER DID WHAT WE ASKED THE DEVELOPER TO DO. HE CAME BACK WITH AN APPROVAL WITH THESE CONDITIONS. THIS IS ONLY REFUSED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT. 
          THAT IS WHY I AM COMING DOWN ON THIS ON THE CODE. DO I WANT TO 
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CHANGE THE NEIGHBORHOOD? ABSOLUTELY NOT. THIS IS NOT A LEGISLATIVE HEARING. THIS IS A 25-014 . -- QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING. WE HAVE THREE MORE ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. ARE WE NOW GOING TO SAY, HERE DEVELOPER, HERE IS OUR CODE, BY THE WAY, EVEN IF YOU DO EVERYTHING WE TELL YOU TO DO, NO, YOU CANNOT DO, XYZ. THAT IS NOT WHAT THE CODE SAYS. I CAN INTERPRET THE CODE. AND I HAVE DONE IT SEVERAL TIMES WHEN COMMISSIONER JOHNSON WAS UP HERE. OUR MINDS ARE DIFFERENT, I SEE LEGAL. WHAT DID HE DO , LEGALLY WRONG? DO I LIKE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THIS CODE THAT ALLOWS THE DEVELOPER TO COME DO THIS? I SAID IT SEVERAL TIMES, I DO NOT. MY QUESTION IS, WHAT DID HE DO WRONG? I ASKED THE INTERVENER, DID HE DO ANYTHING WRONG? DID HE DO ANYTHING OUTSIDE THE CODE? AND THE INTERVENER SAID, HE IS FOLLOWING THE CODE. I AM IN A POSITION NOW THAT I WANT TO CHANGE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW. I HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN TO ONE OF THE HOUSES THAT TALKED. HE KNOWS. I HAVE BEEN THERE. I KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT. I AM TORN BECAUSE MY LEGAL BRAIN IS SAYING, THIS IS MORE OF A LEGAL ISSUE. THEN AN INTERPRETATION ISSUE. I DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE ANYBODY'S NEIGHBORHOOD. DO NOT SIT UP HERE AND ACT LIKE WE HAVE NEVER DONE THAT BEFORE, BASED ON THIS CODE. SO, I AM OVER HERE, TORN. 
          BECAUSE I HEAR THE PASSION OF THE NEIGHBORS IN THIS COMMUNITY. 
          I HAVE HEARD THE COMPASSION OF NEIGHBORS AND OTHER COMMUNITIES. 
          I'VE HEARD THE PASSION OF COMMISSIONER TAYLOR TALKING ABOUT HIS COMMUNITY. THE FIRST TWO MEETINGS HE WAS HERE, I HAVE HEARD IT. BUT, WE HAVE STILL NOT CHANGED THIS CODE OR LOOKED AT THIS CODE. NOW WE ARE ACTING AS JUDGES, SO TO SPEAK, AS THE MADAM ATTORNEY READ, WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO EVIDENCE INSTEAD OF OPINION AND DESIRES. SO THAT IS WHERE I AM AT. I DON'T KNOW. 
          THAT IS WHERE I AM AT. I DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE ANYBODY'S NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M SAYING TONIGHT, THIS IS A HARD ONE FOR ME. WE ARE SETTING OURSELVES UP DOWN THE ROAD FOR SOME TYPE OF 
          LEGAL CHALLENGE. >> THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT, HE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY AT A CERTAIN ZONING AND IS ASKING 
          FOR THAT ZONING TO CHANGE. >> BASED ON OUR CODE, CORRECT. 
          BASED ON OUR RULES THAT WE PUT IN PLACE. 
          >> WE DO NOT HAVE TO GRANT THAT. THERE IS NOTHING OF VIOLATES THE CODE THAT SAYS WE HAVE TO GRANT THAT. 
          >> YOU ARE RIGHT, MADAME MAYOR, WE DO NOT HAVE TO GRANT, WE HAVE GRANTED IT IN THE PAST ON THE SAME AS THAT, FACTS. SO, THAT IS WHAT I, IN OTHER SITUATIONS, AND WILL PROBABLY DO IT TONIGHT ON B, C, D, SITUATIONS WHERE THEY WILL COME UP, THAT IS THE PROBLEM. SO, THAT IS WHAT I AM WORRIED ABOUT. 
          >> WHAT I HEAR, IS THAT THERE ARE THINGS IN THE CODE, THAT FOR INSTANCE, THIS IS GOING FROM A VERY, ALMOST SINGLE -- THIS IS A DRASTIC CHANGE. GOING FROM SOMETHING THAT IS SIMPLE, TO A DRASTIC CHANGE. SO THAT IS WHY I ASKED THE INTERVENER, WHAT WOULD BE GOOD? SOMETHING IN BETWEEN E-3 AND THIS MIGHT BE ACCEPTABLE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS VERY DRASTIC. 
          >> MADAME MAYOR, I AGREE WITH YOU, THAT IS WHY I THOUGHT OF THE QUESTION OF A COMPROMISE. HOWEVER, AS I SIT HERE TODAY, AS I SIT HERE TODAY, I CANNOT LOOK AT YOU, I CANNOT LOOK AT KEVIN FREEMAN AND LOOK AT THIS AUDIENCE TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO GET AT A FINAL PLOT. I CANNOT SAY THAT, THERE HAS BEEN NO EVIDENCE PRODUCED TONIGHT. TO SAY WHAT WE SEE 
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TONIGHT WILL BE THE FINAL PRODUCT. AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE, I DO NOT SEE HIM GETTING THIS. I UNDERSTAND SOMEONE ELSE COMING IN, IF THEY DO THAT IN FRONT OF US. AGAIN, IT IS THE CODE. 
          AGAIN, I AM HEARING, I ALWAYS HERE WITH THE RESIDENCE SAY. I HAVE A CODE IN FRONT OF ME, YOU ARE APPROVED. YOU PUT IT ON PAPER. IT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT. THAT IS WHERE I AM AT. I GET WHERE YOU'RE GOING. THAT IS WHY I FOLLOWED UP WITH YOU AND ASKED THE INTERVENER THE QUESTION. I WAS TRYING TO GET HIM TO SAY FOUR. AND MAYBE, SO, I UNDERSTAND, THEY DO NOT WANT ROADS. THOSE ARE NOT THE RULES OF THIS HEARING. THERE IS TESTIMONY BUT THAT IS NOT EVIDENCE. AND SO WE CANNOT PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT WE WANT TO SAY IS EVIDENCE AND NOT EVIDENCE. MY LEGAL BRAIN 
          >> NOBODY CAN TAKE THOSE AWAY FROM YOU. 
          >> I UNDERSTAND THAT. I GET SOM HERE THAT THESE DEVELOPERS DON'T HAVE TO GO AROUND US. THEY HAVE TO COME TO US -- WE HAVE NO SAY SO. AT LEAST THIS DEVELOPMENT, WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF SAY-SO WITH SOME AMENDMENTS BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW WHAT IS OUT THERE. LET'S BE CAREFUL HERE AND NOT LOSE CONTROL OF 
          ANYTHING. >> MADAME MAYOR, I HAVE TO ECHO THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL SEEN THIS, RIGHT? AND THAT IS A CONCERN. AND SO, THE QUESTION WAS ASKED OF US BY CONSTITUENTS AND PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE , TO PROTECT US, WE ELECT YOU. WE TALKED TO YOU, AND WE ALSO SOMETIMES HAVE OUR HANDS HANDCUFFED BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE. THAT IS NOT THE CASE HERE. WHAT YOU ARE SEEING IS OUR STRUGGLE HERE OF OUR READING OUR LAW, WHICH IS HERE. AND APPLYING THAT TO THIS SITUATION. THAT IS THE STRUGGLE, MADAME MAYOR, FOR ALL OF US. 
          BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, WE HAVE TO PROTECT, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THE CITIZENS AND THE DEVELOPER BECAUSE AT SOME POINT, IF WE GET LEGAL CONSEQUENCES, WE HAD TO DEAL WITH THAT. I WOULD RATHER SPEND THE TIME TO REALLY FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO HERE TO FIND THIS MIDDLEGROUND. IT IS ULTIMATELY GOING TO COME DOWN TO A VOTE AND HOW WE INDIVIDUALLY INTERPRET WHAT IS BEFORE US WITH THE INFORMATION AND HOW WE MOVE FROM HERE. 
          >> BRANDON. >> SO. 
          >> I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION IF WE ARE AT THAT POINT. 
          >> NO MORE DISCUSSION? GO AHEAD. MAKE THE MOTION. 
          >> ALL RIGHT. >> MADAME MAYOR, I MAKE THE MOTION TO DENY ITEM 12A, ORDINANCE DECK TO BECAUSE IT IS INCONSISTENT WITH SURROUNDING ZONING OPERATIONS AND INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND 
          PROPERTIES. >> IS THERE A SECOND? 
          >> SECOND. >> CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. 
          COMMISSIONER GAINES >> NO MA'AM. 
          >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> NO MA'AM. 
          >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. >> YES MA'AM. 
          >> MADAME MAYOR? >> YES MA'AM? 
          >> I WANT TO PLACE ON THE RECORD -- I KNOW COMMISSIONER TAYLOR WENT TO THE RESTROOM. I WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT YOU COULD STILL HEAR THE PROCEEDINGS BECAUSE THE AUDIO IS TYPED IN. ARE YOU INTO 
          THE SNACK AREA? >> YOU ALSO LEFT THE DAIS. TO CONFIRM, WHEN YOU WERE IN THE HALLWAY, YOU COULD ALSO HEAR THE 
          [b.  Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Review and approval of an application for a Conditional Use with New Construction, submitted by applicant Leo Giagrande, Principle, GEP, to construct an 84-lot recreational vehicle park located near Crossroads Parkway and Andrews Avenue. The property is located on Parcel ID: 2324-312-0005-000-4.]
          ENTIRE PROCEEDINGS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> NEXT ITEM IS QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING, REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT BY APPLICANT FRANCO PRADO TO CHANGE THE ZONING OF ONE (1) PARCEL OF LAND FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY - THREE UNITS PER ACRE, E-3, TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT  AT 1038 S. 37TH 
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STREET, MORE SPECIFICALLY AT PARCEL ID: 2417-213-0001-000-7 . 
          >> ARE THERE ANY EX PARTE NEGATIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? PLEASE ASK. COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. 
          >> I'VE SEEN THE REPORT. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON 
          >> NO MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. 
          >> NO MA'AM. >> ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND 
          NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? >> I DO. 
          >> PROCEED. >> ALL RIGHT. 
          >> ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MADAME MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSIONERS. I BRING BEFORE YOU A CONDITIONAL USE WITH A NEW CONSTRUCTION. PRESENTATION FOR CROSSROADS WRITTEN ON RECREATION VEHICLE PARK. THE PROPERTY OWNER IS ALEXANDER GEORGE. THE PARCEL I.D. IS 2324 -312-0005-00 -4. IN SUMMARY, A CONDITIONAL USE WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION ABLATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED FOR APPROVAL TO DEVELOP CROSSROADS RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARK WITH COMMUNITY AMENITIES. THE PROPERTY IS IN C32, AND HAS A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF GC, GENERAL COMMERCIAL. FOR EDUCATION PURPOSES, CONDITIONALLY'S ACCORDING TO ARTICLE FIVE SECTION 125-325, THE PURPOSE OF CONDITIONAL USE, PROCESS IS TO ALLOWED WHEN DESIRABLE, USES THAT WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE GENERALLY OR WITHOUT RESTRICTION. THROUGHOUT THE PARTICULAR ZONING DISTRICT, BUT WHICH, IS CONTROLLED OR RELATION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, GOOD ORDER, APPEARANCE, CONVENIENCE AND THE GENERAL WELFARE. HERE IS THE SITE LOCATION HIGHLIGHTING THE CITY LIMITS THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. 
          THE SITE AREA IS 10.9 ACRES, GIVE OR TAKE. AGAIN, THE FUTURE LAND USE IS GC, GENERAL COMMERCIAL. WITH THE ZONING BEING C3, GENERAL COMMERCIAL. 
          SITE PLAN DETAILS. WITH ONE ACCESS INTO THE PROPERTY, THE PROPOSED RB SIZES WILL RANGE FROM 35 TO 45 FEET LONG. THE COMMUNITY WILL OFFER AN AMENITY CENTER, POOL, GO BALL COURT, AND BIKE RACK, AND A WET POND THAT IS A LITTLE OVER AN ACRE. THE LANDSCAPE PLAN -- CURRENTLY, THERE ARE 12. THERE ARE A TOTAL OF 14 EXISTING TREES ON THE PROPERTY WITH THE ADDITIONAL PROPOSED TREES AND PINES AND POEMS AND LIVE OAKS. THE TOTAL PERIMETER OF TREES ARE COMING IN AT ABOUT 90, BEING ON THE PROPERTY, SO 14 ALREADY EXISTING. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ABOUT 78 ADDED TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          WITH COMMISSION. AT THE APRIL 14TH BOARD MEETING, THE BOARD VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE WITH SIX CONDITIONS. ONE, PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF ANY SITE CLEARING PERMITS, THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE A TREE MITIGATION SURVEY AND COORDINATOR WITH THE CITY FOR THE REQUIRED MITIGATION OF THE CITIES RELATED TREES PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED AS A RESULT OF ITS SITE DEVELOPED AND CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY. PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF THE FINAL CERTIFICATE, THE LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT SHALL BE PROVIDED. ACKNOWLEDGING THE FOLLOWING. THREE, A SOUTH FLORIDA BOARD AND MANAGEMENT DISTRICT SHOULD BE REQUIRED PRIOR TO THE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT COMPLIANCE REVIEW APPROVAL. FOUR, AND APPROVED ST. LUCIE COUNTY DONUT SHALL BE ACQUIRED PRIOR TO THE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT COMPLIANCE APPROVAL. FIVE, THE ENVIRONMENT TILL ASSESSMENT REPORT THE NOTES ON RESULT CONDITIONS THAT MAY REQUIRE FURTHER TESTING AND ACTION AND UPDATED GOVERNMENTAL REVIEW SHALL BE REQUIRED AT THE TIME OF DECADE. FORMS SHALL BE SUBMITTED 
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TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. IT IS STAFF RECOGNITION FOR CITY COMMISSION TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONALLY'S WITH NEW CONTRACTION WITH THE PREVIOUSLY LISTED SIX CONDITIONS. ALTERNATE RECOGNITIONS WOULD BE FOR APPROVAL WITH ADDITIONAL OR MODIFIED CONDITIONS OR TO RECOMMEND DISAPPROVAL. THANK 
          YOU. >> QUESTIONS OF STAFF? 
          >> YES SIR. >> WHAT IS TRIGGERING THE 
          CONDITIONAL USE REQUIREMENT? >> YES HER. SO THE ZONING. THE ZONING TABLE. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN C3, SO ACCORDING TO THE ZONING TABLE BECAUSE THE PROPOSED USE IS RV REPARATION PARK, IT IS CONDITIONALLY'S, THEREFORE, IT HAS TO COME BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL. 
          >> SO THIS ISN'T A MOBILE AND MODULAR HOME TYPE OF PARK. THIS IS WHERE YOU DRIVE YOUR RV IN AND RENT A LOT FOR A WEEK OR 
          WHATEVER. >> THAT IS CORRECT, YES SIR. 
          >> OKAY. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. >> AND EQUATIONS OF STAFF? CUSHIONS OF STAFF? WILL THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD, PLEASE? STATE YOUR NAME AND TELL US WHAT YOU WANT TO TELL US. 
          >> I WANT TO THANK STAFF. I WANT TO THANK -- 
          >> DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? 
          >> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. I'M HUNGRY. 
          >> YOU STUCK WITH US ALL THIS EVENING. WE APPRECIATE IT. 
          >> A GREAT JOB. I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. 
          >> ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? 
          >> ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? 
          >> I HAD ONE BUT IT IS GONE. >> IF IT WAS ABOUT THE TYPE AND LENGTH OF STAY, IT IS NOT INTENDED THAT SOMEONE WOULD TAKE AN RV AND END UP LIVING THERE. IT WOULD BE STRICTLY LIKE ANOTHER RV LOT. YOU SHOW UP FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS. 
          >> IT IS A BOOMING INDUSTRY RIGHT NOW. 
          >> YES IT IS. >> IT'S A LOT OF FUN WHEN 
          YOU'RE OUT THERE. >> SO YOU'RE PUTTING IN ALL THE UNDERGROUND SEWER, ELECTRIC, CABLE, TO EACH SITE. 
          >> YEAH. IT ENDS UP BEING INFAMOUSLY GOOD. YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE DOING ILLEGAL DUMPING OR ANY OF THOSE. YOU HAVE THE AMENITIES THAT KEEPS THEM SAFE AND AN ENJOYABLE TIME. HE END UP WITH YOUR TYPICAL PEDESTAL. 
          >> THAT IS WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THE TYPICAL -- ILLEGAL 
          DUMPING THING. >> WE HAVE TO PROTECT OUR WATER. 
          >> THIS IS FOR PEOPLE TRAVELING AROUND TO RV PARKS. 
          >> YEAH. THERE IS A LOT OF DEMAND FOR THEM. SOMETIMES, PEOPLE STAY WITH THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS IN FT. PIERCE AND CHOOSE THIS DURING THE HOLIDAYS -- YOU SEE A LOT OF THAT. THEY MIGHT TAKE A BREAK BECAUSE THEY'RE ON THEIR WAY DOWN TO THE KEYS BUT 
          IT IS USUALLY A DAY OR SO. >> YOU MIGHT HAVE A BASEBALL PLAYER COMING AND PLAYING IN A TOURNAMENT. 
          >> YOU MIGHT HAVE A BASEBALL PLAYER THAT IS HERE FOR SPRING 
          TRAINING. >> EXACTLY. 
          >> FORT PIERCE HAS SPENT A TON OF MONEY. DESPITE THAT IS WHAT 
          WE WANT. >> DON'T BE SPENDING MONEY ON YOUR LOCAL BUSINESSES. YET THE LOAD UP ON WHAT YOU NEED AT THE 
          RV PARK. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LET'S SEE. DID WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE? ANY OTHER PERSON IN THE AUDIENCE WANT TO WEIGH IN ON THIS DEVELOPMENT? ANYBODY ELSE? ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SAY BEFORE WE CLOSE AND COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION? OKAY. GREAT. WE ARE BACK AT THE COMMISSION. WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          DISCUSSION OR A MOTION? >> I AM NOT READY TO MAKE A MOTION. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE 12B. THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. COMMISSIONER BRODERICK 
          >> YES MA'AM. >> YES MA AM.. 
          [c.  Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Review and approval for an innovative site plan application, submitted by applicant Geza Szini-Sebo, Abandel Group, LTD, allowing bonus density to construct a 30-unit apartment villas. The property is located at 4101 Oleander Avenue, more specifically Parcel ID: 2433-414-0001-000-4.]
          >> NEXT ITEM IS REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF AN APPLICATION FOR A CONDITIONAL USE WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION, SUBMITTED BY APPLICANT LEO GIAGRANDE, PRINCIPLE, GEP, TO CONSTRUCT AN 84-LOT RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARK LOCATED NEAR CROSSROADS PARKWAY AND ANDREWS AVENUE. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON PARCEL ID: 
          2324-312-0005-000-4. >> THE NOTICE AND ADVERTISING 
          PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN MET. >> WOULD HE ASK COMMISSIONERS ABOUT X PARTAKE MEDICATIONS, PLEASE? 
          >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. >> NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. 
          >> COMMISSIONER GAINES. >> NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF. 
          >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> NO. 
          >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. >> NO MA'AM. 
          >> IF YOU WOULD LIKE THIS BECOMES ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? 
          >> YES. >> OKAY. PROCEED. 
          >> MADAM THEY ARE AND CITY COMMISSIONERS, -- 4101 OLEANDER 
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AVENUE. IN SUMMARY, THE EPIC AND IS REQUESTING REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF AN INNOVATIVE DESIGN SITE PLAN ALONG BONUS DENSITY. 
          THE PROBST DEPARTMENT OFFERS SEVERAL COMMUNITY AMENITIES. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS LOCATED ON A PARCEL WITH APPROXIMATELY 2.5 ACRES. THE VIGILANTES OF THE PARCEL IS MEDIUM DENSITY WITH A ZONING OF MEDIUM DENSITY. FOR EDUCATIONAL INNOVATIVE DEVELOPMENT UNDER ARTICLE FIVE CONDITIONALLY'S IS SECTION 125 DASH 213. INNOVATIVE DEVELOPMENT PRIMARILY CREATIVE AND IMAGINATIVE HOUSING, MIXED-USE AND COMMUNITY ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. INNOVATION IS ACHIEVED BY USE OF SOLAR. 
          POSITION. 
          EXCELLENCE IN SITING, DESIGN, PEDESTRIAN ACCESSIBILITY, AND LANDSCAPING. PRODUCTION AND REQUIRED ON-SITE PARKING -- EXPEDITED PLANNING REVIEW AND REDUCTION IN VARIOUS BUILDING SETTING LIMITS ENCOURAGE THESE DEVELOPMENTS. HERE IS THE SITE LOCATION HIGHLIGHTING THE CITY LIMITS OF THE PROPERTY IN THIS LOCATION. AGAIN, THE SITE AREA IS 2.5 ACRES, GIVE OR TAKE. THE FUTURE LAND USE RM MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WITH THE ZONE OF R4, MEDIUM DENSITY. HERE IS THE SITE PLAN. DETAILS ON THE NEXT PAGE. ENTRANCE HERE. SOME OF THE DETAILS ON THAT SITE PLAN, THE PROPOSED UNITS ON THE STRAIGHT ZONING OF R4, 25 UNITS ARE ALLOWED. THE APPLICANT PROPOSES AN ADDITIONAL FIVE UNITS, BRINGING IT TO 30 UNITS. THERE WILL BE FOUR STORIES PIT BEDROOMS RANGING FROM 1 TO 3 BEDROOM UNITS. THE COMMUNITY WILL OFFER BALCONIES, GAZEBO, COOKOUT TABLE, PARK BENCHES, AND ELEVATOR. BIKE RACK. TREE PRESERVATION. CONCRETE PAVERS, GARDEN AND BIO SWELLS, AND WALKING PATHS AND DRY RETENTION PODS. THE LANDSCAPE PLAN -- IT IS GOOD TO NOTE THAT 14 FULL GROWN TREES WILL BE PRESERVED ON THE PROPERTY WITH ADDITIONAL TREES BEING ADDED. ELEVATIONS OF THE PROPERTY SHOWING FROM THE SOUTH, NORTH, WEST, AND EAST. ARCHITECTURE DESIGNS -- THIS IS THOUGHT ACCURATE WITH ANGLO CARIBBEAN STYLE DESIGN. THE BALCONY, SHUTTERS, AND SOME OF THE TREES. AND EVER HANK WITH STONE COLUMNS. AND OF COURSE, ELEVATED INSIDE OF THE BUILDING. 
          THE COLOR SCHEME WAS TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM THE DESIGN REVIEW CODE SECTION 125-314. THE FLOOR PLAN -- AGAIN. FOUR STORIES. SIX UNITS. SIX UNITS, ONE-BEDROOM UNITS. 22 TWO BEDROOM UNITS. 23 THREE BEDROOM UNITS. THREE BEDROOM UNITS BEING COMPOSED ON THE FOURTH FLOOR. AT THE APRIL 14TH PLANNING BOARD MEETING, THE BOARD VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVE THE INNOVATIVE SITE PLAN WITH THE SEVEN CONDITIONS LISTED. ONE PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF OCCUPANCY, A LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT SHALL BE APPROVED AND ACKNOWLEDGED. THE FOLLOWING. 
          TWO, AN UPDATED ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT SHALL BE REQUIRED. 
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THREE, THE PROJECT SHALL HAVE A FLORIDA FISH AND WILDLIFE CONSERVATION COMMISSION IN PLACE PRIOR TO CONDUCTING ANY LAND CLEARING OPERATIONS AS THE SUBMITTED ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT INDICATES THAT ISSUANCE OF ANY SITE CLEARING PERMITS, THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE A TRUE MITIGATION SURVEY AND COGNATE WITH THE TRIG03 INAUDIBLE ] SIX. A SIX FOOT SETBACK IS REQUIRED ALONG OLEANDER AVENUE AND SEVEN, A SITE DEVELOPED REQUIRED BEFORE ACTIVITIES. WITH THESE SEVEN CONDITIONS, STAFF SEGMENTATION IS FOR CITY COMMISSION TO APPROVE THE INNOVATIVE SITE PLAN WITH THE SEVEN LISTED CONDITIONS. 
          ALTERNATE RECOGNITIONS WOULD BE TO ONE, TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH ADDITIONAL OR MODIFIED CONDITIONS, OR TWO, RECOMMENDED 
          DISAPPROVAL. THANK YOU. >> QUESTIONS OF STAFF? 
          COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. >> WHAT IS FOR THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION, WHAT IS DEFINING IT AS INNOVATIVE? 
          >> SO, ACCORDING TO THE CODE, BACK INTO THE DEFINITION, BUT ACCORDING TO THE CODE, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT INNOVATIVE DESIGN, ONE IS ENHANCING LANDSCAPING. ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS. COMMUNITY AMENITIES. THINGS THAT THE RESIDENTS WOULD BE ABLE TO ENJOY WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE DEVELOPMENT. 
          >> AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT CHECKS THOSE BOXES? 
          >> YES SIR. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> WITH THE AMENITIES? 
          >> YES. >> WITH THE AMENITIES. SO, HERE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN WITH DETAILS, SOME OF THE AMENITIES THAT ARE LISTED -- THE GAZEBO IN THE BACK WITH THE COOKOUT TABLES, THE PARK BENCHES. THE BIKE RAMP. AGAIN, THE TREE PRESERVATION IS PART OF THE INNOVATIVE DESIGN, BUT THE CONCRETE PAVERS AND THE ELEVATION, THE BIO SWELL, AND WELL LIT WALKING PATH THAT LEADS UP TO THE BACK OF THE COMMUNITY FOR THE COMMON AREA NEAR THE GAZEBOS. 
          >> YOU JUST PUT THE LANDSCAPING PLAN UP. 
          >> THE BIGGEST PIECE OF THIS PROJECT IS THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL VERY MATURE TREES ON SITE. AND THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED WITH US TO RETAIN THOSE TREES WITHIN THEIR SITE DESIGN. 
          THEY HAVE ALSO INCORPORATED DRAINAGE SYSTEMS WHICH INCORPORATE A BIO SWELL, WHICH IS A METHODOLOGY OF ACTUALLY ENCOURAGING MORE PLANTS ON THE SITE. ALL OF THIS REDUCES SITE DISTURBANCE, MAINTAINS THE QUALITY OF THE SITE. IT'S NOT BEEN SCRAPED. MOST SITES THAT COME IN FOR DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL, IF NOT ALL SITES THAT WE SEE, THEIR FIRST STEP IS TO COME IN AND SAY WE ARE GOING TO CLEAR ALL THE TREES OUT AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO DESIGN OUR PROJECT THEN. WITH THE INNOVATIVE DESIGN REGULATIONS, IT ALLOWS US TO TALK AND NEGOTIATE WITH APPLICANTS TO MAINTAIN THEIR EXISTING LANDSCAPE ON-SITE, IF THEY CAN. SPECIFICALLY, IF THEY'VE GOT LARGE TREES THAT DO OFFER CHARACTER TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT DO OFFER A SHIELDING AND A NATURAL ENVIRONMENT THAT IF THE -- IS IN ITS PROPER PLACE, THEN IT'S NOT INTRUSIVE. IT'S A FOUR-STORY BUILDING. IT'S A BIG BUILDING. BUT WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF WHERE IT'S POSITIONED, THE LANDSCAPING THAT IS BEING MAINTAINED ON SITE, AND THE ADDITIONAL TREE PLANNING AROUND THE BOUNDARY , WE ARE VERY SATISFIED WITH HOW THAT IS LAID OUT, AND ALSO, WITH THE AMENITIES THAT ARE LOCATED IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY THAT ALSO MAINTAIN THE EXISTING LANDSCAPING AS FAR AS WE COULD, BUT ALSO ENCOURAGE SOME ACTIVITY ON SITE, AND I'M SURE THE APPLICANT CAN GO INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT WHAT THAT ENTAILS. WE HAD SIGNIFICANT NEGOTIATIONS IN THIS PROJECT TO GET AND MAINTAIN THE PRESERVATION ELEMENT HERE, WHICH IS QUITE BIG IN TERMS OF WHAT WE NORMALLY SEE IN THE CITY AND ALSO TO ENCOURAGE BETTER STORMWATER 
          TREATMENT ON THE SITE. >> IT IS REALLY INTO OUR 
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RESIDENCE TO PRESERVE THE TREES IF WE CAN. IT MAY GET VERY -- WHEN A LOT GETS CLEARED AND SOMETHING IS GOING TO BE BUILT AND SOMETHING IS GONE, THEY GET REALLY UPSET. 
          >> ONE FOLLOW-UP QUESTION. IN THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION, WHAT 
          IS THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION? >> 45. 45 FEET. DESPITE THIS 
          FALLS WITHIN THE 45 FEET. >> FOR THE MAJORITY OF THIS DESIGN, IT IS MEDIUM DENSITY, AND HEIGHT. AND THERE IS ONLY 
          EIGHT COMPLIES. SPEE01 >> WITH THE EXISTING ZONING. 
          >> THE ZONING HAS BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. ANY CUSHIONS 
          FOR STAFF? >> I HAVE A COUPLE. 
          >> GO AHEAD. >> SO IT IS CURRENTLY R4 ZONING 
          AND WE ARE MOVING TO WHAT? >> IT IS REMAINING R4. THERE ARE CERTAIN BENEFITS BY GOING INTO INNOVATIVE. SO THAT IS HOW WE NEGOTIATE. WE MAINTAIN THE EXISTING ZONING. WE ALLOW THE UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE TO COME INTO PLAY. SO, THE ZONING MIGHT NOT HAVE -- MIGHT NOT IN ITS NORMAL FORM BE ABLE TO TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF THE UNDERLYING ZONING. FOR EXAMPLE, IN HERE, WE HAVE THE UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE OF RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM. WE SAY IN THE INNOVATIVE THAT YOU CAN GO TO THAT DENSITY OF THE RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM, WHEREAS THE ZONING, BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRAINTS WITHIN THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE AND SO FORTH, YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN TERMS OF WHERE THE ZONING IS AND HOW THE ZONING SETS OUT ITS DENSITY. SO WE HAVE TWO LAYERS HERE. THE CITY IS REALLY GOVERNED BY THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN AND THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE. THAT IS IT. THE DENSITY AND THE EXPECTED BUILDOUT OF THE CITY. THE CITY CONTROLS THAT TO A LARGER EXTENT BY THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ZONING, WHICH THEN LOOKS AT LOT SIZES AND MIGHT HAVE MORE LIMITED DENSITY IN THE FUTURE LADIES HAS UNDERNEATH. THE INNOVATIVE ALLOWS A DEVELOPER TO LOOK AT THE FUTURE LADIES UNDERNEATH AND BUILT TO THAT. IT IS, ANYWAY, A FORM OF LAND DEVELOPMENT, BUT WITH THAT, WE ARE MORE STRICT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE ARE EXPECTING. IT IS OUTLINED IN WHAT WE ARE EXPECTING. IT ALLOWS US TO NEGOTIATE THAT BACK-AND-FORTH WITH THE APPLICANT, AND THAT IS HOW WE WOULD MAINTAIN THAT WE SHOULD MAINTAIN THE EXISTING TREES ON SITE AND GET ALL THE AMENITIES ON THEIR. IT IS A BETTER GUARANTEE FROM THE CITY'S POINT OF VIEW AND STATUS POINT OF VIEW, BEING ABLE TO 
          NEGOTIATE SOMETHING. >> I THINK I'M CONFUSED STILL. 
          >> 
          ] >> IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? 
          >> SO R4 IS 10 UNITS PER ACRE. THE UNDERLYING RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY IS 12 UNITS PER ACRE. 
          >> R4 IS 10 UNITS PER ACRE? >> R4 SAYS IN THE ZONING CODE, 10 UNITS PER ACRE. THE UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE 
          ALLOWS 12 UNITS PER ACRE. >> AND YOU HAVE 30 -- A TOTAL OF 
          30? 30 HERE? >> NO. THEY ARE BUILDING TO THE UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE WHICH IS 12 UNITS PER ACRE. IN ESSENCE, NOT IN A BONUS. IT IS HAVING -- SO, LIKE THE APPLICATION WE HEARD EARLIER ACTUALLY CLAIMED FIVE UNITS PER ACRE FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS IS NOT THE FUTURE LAND USE -- IT DOES ALLOW 12 UNITS PER ACRE. IT IS THE ZONING IS RESEARCHING IT TO 10 UNITS PER ACRE. THEY ARE MAINTAINING THE ZONING BUT USING THE PARAMETERS OF THE INNOVATIVE SITE DESIGN CODE, WHICH ALLOWS THE DENSITY TO BE APPLIED AT FUTURE LAND USE LEVEL. BUT IN ALL OTHER RESPECTS, AND MOST OF THE RESPECTS, THE HEIGHT IS MAINTAINED AT THE REST OF THE ZONING. SO, THAT IS RIGHT. THE SET BACKS. IT MEANS AVOIDING SOMETHING ON THE PROPERTY LIKE A TREE OR SOME OTHER IMPEDIMENT THAT WOULD NORMALLY HAVE TO BE REMOVED OR SOMETHING. SO, WE ARE TRYING TO USE DISH WE ARE USING THE INNOVATIVE TO GET MORE 
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PRESERVED ON-SITE IN RETURN THAT THEY CAN GO AND USE THE FUTURE LAND USE IN TERMS OF THEIR DENSITY. 
          >> BUT THEN THEY ARE REQUESTING AN ADDITIONAL FIVE UNITS ON TOP 
          OF THAT? >> NO. 
          >> THE PROPOSED UNITS? >> IT E QUEETS TO FIVE UNITS. IS THAT CORRECT? BECAUSE OF THE AREA OF THE PROPERTY. THE 
          ACREAGE OF THE PROPERTY. >> THE WAY I'M READING IT, THE INNOVATIVE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IT SAYS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT'S ARE PRIMARILY CREATED AND IMAGINATIVE HOUSING. MIXED-USE AND COMMUNITY ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT. IT SAYS AND ON THOSE. THAT WOULD BE ONE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ENCOMPASSING MIXED-USE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMUNITY ORIENTED. IS THAT HOW 
          I'M READING IT? >> THAT IS NOT THE INTENT. THE INTENT WAS TO INCLUDE ALLOW MIXED-USE IF IT WAS MIXED-USE, 
          BUT NOT MANDATE THAT. >> OKAY. I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE AT THIS MOMENT. 
          >> OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? 
          >> A FOLLOW-UP. I'M STILL HUNG UP ON THE DENSITY HERE. WE'VE GOT 2.54 ACRES. CORRECT? SO THAT WOULD EQUATE TO 10 UNITS PER 
          ACRE. 25 UNITS. >> RIGHT. 
          >> THE INNOVATIVE PORTION OF THIS IS WHAT IS CREATING THE ADDITIONAL FIVE UNITS, OR IS IT THE FUTURE LAND USE THAT'S 
          CREATING THAT? >> BOTH. 
          SETS -- 10 UNITS PER ACRE. >> THAT IS 25.4 UNITS. 25 UNITS. 
          >> YEAH. THE FUTURE LAND USE ALLOWS 12 UNITS PER ACRE. 
          >> 30 UNITS. >> THAT IS WHAT THEY HAVE 
          APPLIED FOR. >> UNDER THE INNOVATIVE. THE PARAMETERS OF THE INNOVATIVE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ALLOWS A DEVELOPMENT TO UTILIZE THE UNDERLYING FUTURE LAND USE. 
          >> I GET IT. I UNDERSTAND THAT PART. I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE POINT -- BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE CONCERN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE IS THE HEIGHT . IT IS NOT NECESSARILY THE DENSITY, BUT IT IS THE HEIGHT. YOU HAVE A FOUR-STORY BUILDING IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS FULL OF ONE-STORY STRUCTURES. THE HEIGHT, THOUGH, IS GOVERNED BY THE R4 ZONING CLASSIFICATION. 
          THAT IS 45 FEET. 45 FEET. WHAT IS THE HEIGHT OF THIS STRUCTURE? 
          >> 45 FEET. >> 45 FEET. THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE AREAS ABOVE THAT FOR ELEVATOR SHAFTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, OR DECORATIVE ARCHITECTURAL STUFF. 
          >> IT IS PRIMARILY FOR -- YES. >> LIVING AREA. 
          >> NOT FOR LIVING AREA. THE 45 FEET IS TO THE TOP OF THE ROOF, AND ANYTHING ABOVE THAT CAN GO HIGHER THAN THAT IS IT IS ASSOCIATED WITH ELEVATORS OR SOME OTHER SURFACE EQUIPMENT. 
          >> ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES, ET CETERA. SO MY POINT HERE IS, UNLIKE OTHER APPLICATIONS WE'VE HAD COME IN, THIS MEETS THE 
          ZONING REQUIREMENT. >> IN TERMS OF HEIGHT. 
          >> THAT, I THINK, IS A CRITICAL POINT HERE. ALL RIGHT. I'M 
          DONE. >> ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. I WOULD LIKE FOR THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD, PLEASE. 
          >> NO PROBLEM. >> I WOULD LIKE THE APPLICANT TO 
          COME FORWARD, PLEASE. >> GOOD EVENING. REBECCA. I'VE BEEN SWORN IN, FOR THE RECORD. WE WORKED TOGETHER TO FIND SOMETHING THAT IS MORE THAN JUST A CODE MINIMUM PROJECT. AS KEVIN OUTLINED, IT WORKS TO PRESERVE TREES. IT UTILIZES A MINIMUM AND IMPACT DESIGN. IT IS FAR MORE EFFECTIVE THAN PIPING IN SENDING YOUR STORM WATER INTO AN ATTENUATION PUTT. THERE ARE INCREASED AMENITIES. THERE IS A BOOTABLE AREA IN THE BACK OF THIS BUILDING FOR RESIDENTS TO FACE. THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE IS AGAIN, ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WOULD TYPICALLY BE PART OF THE CODE. IT UTILIZES THE NEW GUIDEBOOK THAT THE CITY PUT TOGETHER IN TERMS OF COLORS, MATERIALS, AND STYLES. AND I JUST WANT TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ON THE ARCHITECTURAL'S. THE ARCHITECT IS HERE TONIGHT. IF YOU HAVE MORE DETAILED QUESTIONS. THE APARTMENTS ARE DESIGNED SO THAT THEY EITHER 
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FACE EAST OR WEST. THEY DON'T LOOK NORTH OR SOUTH, SO THERE IS A LOT OF BUFFERING FOR RESIDENTS IN THE AREA. THERE IS NOBODY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WHO WOULD LOOK ONTO THE ADJACENT YARDS. THEY LOOK WEST, AND THERE IS A FULL CANOPY OF TREES, AND WE ARE REALLY PROUD OF THE TREE PRESERVATION ON THIS SITE. I THINK IT IS A FANTASTIC AMENITY. SO. WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS. I ALSO HAVE ONE OF THE OWNERS HERE TONIGHT. WE HAVE THE ARCHITECT HERE TONIGHT. I'M HAPPY TO HEAR FROM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC IF THERE IS ANYBODY HERE TO SUPPORT. 
          >> I HAVE A QUESTION. HOW FAR BACK WAS IT FROM OLEANDER DOES 
          THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE SIT? >> CAN YOU GO BACK? I DIDN'T BRING A PRINTED ONE WITH ME. IT IS 225 FEET FROM OLEANDER. THE REAR IS 253 FEET. THERE WERE 25 FOOT SETBACKS ON THE SIDES. 
          >> IT IS LOCATED TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH? 
          >> TO THE NORTH, IT IS OLEANDER OAKS. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT. 
          >> IT IS A SINGLE-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT? 
          >> IT'S ALL RENTAL STRUCTURES. TO THE SOUTH, THERE IS A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> MADAME MAYOR. 
          >> YOU SAID THE SOUTH. FROM THIS POINT -- THERE ARE NO WINDOWS. 
          ON THE STRUCTURE FACING IT. >> THERE IS JUST A STAIRWELL THAT FACES NORTH AND THE STAIRWELL ON THE SOUTH SIDE. 
          THERE IS THE ELEVATOR IN THE MIDDLE THAT WOULD BE SHARED FOR 
          RESIDENTS. >> AND THE TREE CANOPY COVERAGE. 
          SO, THIS HOUSE THAT IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING HERE -- IT LOOKS LIKE A HOUSE -- RIGHT THERE -- 
          >> I DON'T SEE HOW THEY WOULD EVER SEE IT. ALL THE TREES TOWARDS THE BACK ARE BEING PRESERVED AND THERE'S ADDITIONAL TREES BEING PLANTED. THOSE TREES PRESERVED ARE FAIRLY LARGE. THEY ARE DETAILED IN THE SITE PLAN. 
          >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> ANY QUESTIONS? ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SO, THAT WAS THE APPLICANT. NOW, I'M OPENING IT UP FOR ANYONE THAT WANTS TO TESTIFY BEFORE THE COMMISSION ON THIS PROJECT. ANYONE ELSE? ANYONE ELSE? 
          >> HI. I'M DEBORAH JOHNS. I'VE EMAILED YOU ALL AND I'M GOING TO DEFER MY TIME TO JEAN WOODARD. SHE IS BETTER AT PUBLIC 
          SPEAKING THAN ME. >> OKAY. YOU GET THREE MINUTES. 
          >> THIS MORNING, I STEPPED OUT DURING THAT. 
          >> OKAY. LET'S SWEAR YOU IN. >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? 
          >> YES, I DO. SO, MY NAME IS JEAN WOODARD. I MET 1614 BELL AVENUE. I'VE BEEN BEFORE YOU GUYS BEFORE ON SOME ISSUES. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THAT CITY INNOVATIVE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CODE AND STANDARDS IN SECTION 125.24 3F, THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS IN THAT THAT DRAW MY ATTENTION, AND THAT WOULD BE, FIRST OF ALL, F1A IS COMPATIBILITY. THIS PROJECT, IN MY OPINION, AND THE OTHERS IN THIS AREA -- THAT IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. THERE ARE DOZENS OF RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS ALREADY APPROVED IN THE AREA. WE DON'T NEED A FOUR-STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX AT THIS LOCATION. THERE ARE NO FOUR-STORY RESIDENTS -- RESIDENCES WITHIN MY KNOWLEDGE -- A ONE MILE RADIUS. ALSO, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT SECTION F1D, TRANSPORTATION CAPACITY AND LINKS. I LOST MY SCREEN. WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY ON THAT IS THERE IS NOT ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE AREA. 
          THERE IS OVERCROWDING IN OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS, OF WHICH THERE ARE SEVERAL WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THIS PROJECT. IN THAT RESPECT, I WANTED TO MENTION ACCORDING TO THE FLORIDA INVENTORY OF SCHOOL HOUSES EPORT, FT. PIERCE CENTRAL , WHICH IS A COUPLE OF MILES AWAY, IN THE 2023-2024 SCHOOL YEAR, THE PERMANENT CAPACITY WAS LISTED AS 253. -- 2553. IN THE TWO DOZEN 24-2025 SCHOOL YEAR, THERE WAS REPORTED 3187 STUDENTS. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT CHART, IT SHOWS AN AVAILABLE CAPACITY OF -302 STUDENTS. SO, AGAIN, THAT IS A SMALL PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE ARE CONCERNED WITH. THE FLORIDA D.O.T. SHOWS THE SERVICE LEVEL IS AT LEVEL D. I THINK WE ALL 
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KNOW THIS IS A DANGEROUS ROAD. AND LET'S NOT FORGET THE FATALITY OF OUR 10-YEAR-OLD GIRL ON OLEANDER ON SEPTEMBER 20TH, 23RD, OF DOZEN 21. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT AREA THAT WOULD MAKE US FEEL LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE ANY SAFER WITH ALL THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC, IT IS NOTHING MORE THAN DANGEROUS. THE COUNTY HAS A POTENTIAL SIDEWALK EXPANSION FROM SOUTH MARKET ONWARDS ON THEIR WISH LIST. IT IS ON THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY TIP MAP. THAT PROJECT IS NOT FUNDED AND IT PROBABLY WON'T BE. AGAIN, THE SAFETY AND WELFARE OF CITIZENS IS AT RISK AND IF YOU APPROVE THIS PROJECT, YOU'RE GOING TO'S SENT A CLEAR MESSAGE TO TRIG03 THAT YOU'RE NOT LISTENING TO THE CITIZENS IN THAT AREA. THANK YOU. 
          >> WHO IS NEXT? WHO ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? HAVE YOU BEEN 
          SWORN IN? THANK YOU. OKAY. >> RONNA PERRY, 5080 WEST VIRGINIA DRIVE, AND, ONCE AGAIN, THESE GIRLS HERE HAVE ALL THE STATISTICS DOWN. BUT, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS . 
          WHEN YOU SAY THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SIX FOOT SIDEWALKS, LIKE WHERE THE SIDEWALKS GOING? ARE THEY GOING JUST IN FRONT OF THE COMPLEX? OR MY QUESTION IS, WHEN THEY COME BACK UP, THE LENGTH OF THE SIDEWALK THERE? FOR SAFETY REASONS. ONCE AGAIN, I FEEL THAT THIS IS, AS WAS STATED EARLIER, INFRASTRUCTURE STRAIN. WE HAVE INCOMPATIBLE DENSITY. I STRONGLY FEEL THAT THE HISTORIC HERITAGE OF FT. PIERCE WHITE CITY IS ALREADY BEING COMPROMISED, AND BY PUTTING IN THIS COMPLEX HERE, WHICH LOOKS LIKE A HOTEL TO ME, IT IS JUST ADDING MORE AND MORE CARS TO OUR AREA. I KNOW YOU ARE SAYING ALL THE LEGAL STUFF IS THERE, BUT, BUT THE ROAD STRUCTURE. THE SCHOOLS. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THAT IS NOT THERE. SO, LIKE, WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE WITH SAYING,IT IS OKAY BECAUSE WE ARE FITTING ALL THE LAW. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL THAT. WE HAVE AREAS ON 25TH STREET, WINDING CREEK, PALM LAKES, CHARLESTON OAKS, THEY HAVE DEVELOPED THE LAND. THEY HAVE MADE IT LESS DENSE. I DON'T KNOW WHY SO MANY OF THESE PROPERTIES HAVE TO BECOME FULL CAPACITY. PRETTY SOON, WE WILL HAVE NO LAND LEFT. OUR WILDLIFE -- I KNOW EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT THAT, BUT IT'S TRUE. WE'RE HAVING COYOTES RUN THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE 20 YEARS AGO. I WOULD LIKE YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER LOOKING INTO YOUR LAWS, AS STATED EARLIER AND TRY TO START DOING STUFF TO CHANGE WHAT YOU ARE ALLOWING TO HAPPEN TO OUR AREA. THANK YOU. 
          >> ANYONE ELSE? ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. APPLICANT, WOULD YOU LIKE 
          TO COME BACK AND RESPOND? >> THANK YOU, . JUST TO GO OVER THE FIRST SPEAKER WITH THE QUESTIONS ABOUT COMPATIBILITY, WE DEMONSTRATED CONSISTENCY WITH BOTH OF THE ZONING CODE AND THE FUTURE LAND USE. TALKING ABOUT TRANSPORTATION CONCURRENCY, IT DOES OPERATE AT THE LOSD, BUT THERE WAS A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS REVIEWED BY ST. LUCIE COUNTY THAT HAS OTHER DEVELOPMENTS ALL ALONG OLEANDER. THAT PORTION OF OLEANDER IS UNDER THE COUNTY'S JURISDICTION. THE FDOT PORTION IS FURTHER NORTH, BUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY SHOWED THAT THERE IS NO IMPACT TO THE LEVEL OF SERVICE PROVIDED ON THAT ROADWAY AFTER THIS DEVELOPMENT AFTER OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA, AND IT WAS APPROVED BOTH BY THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, SO I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER THAT IN REBUTTAL. 
          THE QUESTION FROM THE NEXT SPEAKER ON SIDEWALKS BEING SIX FOOT WIDE, THAT IS THE WIDTH. THERE IS SIDEWALKS THAT RUN FROM THE PROJECT UP TO THE ROAD. YEAH. YOU CAN FLIP BACK TO THE SITE PLAN. SO, THE SIX FOOT WIDE TALKS ABOUT THE WIDTH OF THE ACTUAL SIDEWALK. NOT THE LENGTH OF THE SIDEWALK. IT GOES OUT TO THE ROADWAY. WE ALSO WORKED WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD. I KNOW THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT SCHOOL CONCURRENCY. WE WORKED WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD. THEY'VE IDENTIFIED NO CONCURRENCY ISSUES WITH THIS PROPOSAL. THERE IS A SIDEWALK PROPOSED THAT LINKS TO THE ADJACENT SITE TO THE NORTH. THE SCHOOL BOARD FELT THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE A GOOD LOCATION FOR A JOINT BUS STOP TO SERVICE 
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SCHOOLKIDS, SO, WE HAVE TALKED TO THE SCHOOL BOARD. WE HAVE WORKED WITH THEM. THEY'VE RAISED NO CONCURRENCY ISSUES. 
          WITH SCHOOL CAPACITY OR CONCURRENCY. SO, AND AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND-USE AND WITH THE ZONING CODE, SO, IF YOU HAVE ANY 
          QUESTIONS, AGAIN, I'M HERE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK 
          YOU VERY MUCH. >> SO NOW, WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING THIS BACK TO THE COMMISSION. FOR 
          DISCUSSION OR A MOTION. >> I HAVE A COMMENT. A FOLLOW-UP COMMENT. I WAS DROOLING INTO THE ZONING. WITH STAFF TONIGHT. 
          CONFIRMING THAT THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED FOR THE HEIGHT THAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO DEVELOP WITH THIS PROJECT. HOWEVER, WHERE I HAVE MY CONCERN IS COMPATIBILITY. I KNOW THIS AREA WELL. I AM IN THIS AREA CONSISTENTLY. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING THAT IS EVEN TWO STORIES IN THAT GENERAL VICINITY, NEVERMIND FOUR, SO I'M VERY TROUBLED BY THE COMPATIBILITY OF A FOUR STORY STRUCTURE OF THIS DENSITY SET IN THE AREA THAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO DEVELOP THIS. I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. 
          >> ? >> YES SIR. 
          >> DITTO. I SHARE THOSE EXACT CONCERNS. I LIVE IN THAT LIGHT YELLOW PORTION THERE. 
          THERE ISN'T ANYTHING THAT I CAN THINK OF WITHIN AT LEAST A MILE OF THAT AREA. IT IS PRIMARILY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. LARGER HALF-ACRE LOTS FOR THE MOST PART. I RIDE ALONG OLEANDER. 
          THERE IS SOME HIGHER DENSITY RIGHT ON OLEANDER. IT IS THE HEIGHT FOR ME. I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS IN MAINTAINING THE PROPERTY AND THE TREES, AND THAT IS ALWAYS A HOT BUTTON ISSUE FOR ME, BUT I CAN'T WRAP MY HEAD AROUND A FOUR STORY BUILDING ADJACENT TO SINGLE-FAMILY ONE-STORY HOMES. 
          >> I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT COMPATIBILITY, BUT I BELIEVE THEY HAVE ACCOMMODATED AND REALLY DONE SOMETHING INNOVATIVE TO MAKE IT REALLY -- I THINK THEY HAVE KIND OF COMPENSATED FOR -- I DON'T THINK -- I DON'T OBJECT TO THE HEIGHT JUST FOR HEIGHT'S SAKE. I THINK THAT THEY HAVE DONE SOMETHING PRETTY INNOVATIVE ALONG THE STREET WHERE IT IS -- OLEANDER IS -- YES. IT IS CHALLENGED, BUT THERE WAS -- IT MEETS THE NEEDS -- IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING AND IT IS A SITE PLAN. WE ARE PAST REZONING. WE ARE AT A SITE PLAN. 
          SO -- AND THEY HAVE DONE SOMETHING VERY INNOVATIVE. I DON'T SEE THAT -- I DON'T SEE THE HEIGHT AS BEING SOMETHING SO AWFUL FOR THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          >> SO, MADAME MAYOR, I'M GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT AND I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS, AND SO, WHAT I LOOK AT HERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS. THE CONDITIONS HERE, RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND/OR PLANNING. THE WAY THE ACTUAL FRONTAGE FACING PEOPLE WOULD BE AT THIS HEIGHT -- TO MY ABILITY -- TO MY UNDERSTANDING, HAS BEEN ADDRESSED. I'M NOT CHALLENGED WITH THE HEIGHT BECAUSE OF THE TREES AND THE MATURE TREES THAT ARE THERE CURRENTLY. AND THEY HAVE WOVEN THIS INTO THAT PARTICULAR AREA. 
          SO, THE FURTHER POINT WAS, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE ACTUAL ZONING, FOR WHAT IS CURRENTLY THERE, YOU ARE RIGHT. THEY DIDN'T CHANGE IT. AND ALLOW FOR IT. AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHEN THE HEIGHT CAME UP, THIS IS ACTUALLY ALLOWED IN OUR CURRENT CITY CODE RIGHT NOW. NO STEEPLE. NO NEEDLES STICKING UP THAT WE HAD TO COME IN WITH WHAT WE CALL AN EXCEPTION, RIGHT, WHEN IT COMES TO HEIGHT. THIS IS CURRENTLY WHAT WE ALLOW IN OUR CITY RIGHT NOW. SO THAT TELLS ME THAT IF SOMEBODY BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY, 
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AND THEY WANTED TO BUILD A BIG MANSION TYPE HOUSE THAT HAD A BIG STEEPLE THAT WENT UP TO 45 FEET, THEY WOULD BE WELL WITHIN THAT IF THEY DECIDED TO USE THAT LAND THAT KIND OF WAY. SO, WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGE, I DON'T KNOW, COMMISSIONER GAINES, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING HERE, BUT I'M PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION. I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS ITEM, ITEM 12C, WITH THE 
          CONDITIONS, OF COURSE. >> I'M SEEING WHERE WE ARE HEADING HERE. THE SIDEWALK REQUIREMENT -- THE DISCUSSION ON LEAVING THAT BECAUSE IN MY OPINION, IT IS GOING TO BE JUST A SIDEWALK TO NOWHERE. COVERING THAT PROPERTY. WE DIDN'T REQUIRE IT AT THE PROPERTY JUST TO THE NORTH. IN THE COUNTY CONCERT AT A SIDEWALK ALL THE WAY DOWN ON THE EAST SIDE OF 
          OLEANDER. >> THAT'S RIGHT. SO, I DON'T SEE THAT SIDEWALK CONTINUING ANYWHERE OR LEADING ANYWHERE 
          EVENTUALLY. >> DO THEY PAY? I DON'T KNOW IF 
          THEY PAY IN LIEU. >> I DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO THAT OR NOT. MAYBE 100 YEARS FROM NOW. IT IS ON 
          BOTH SIDES. >> YES. 
          >> WE WOULD HAVE TO GET A LOT OF OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS GOING 
          THERE ON THE SIDEWALK. >> UNDERSTOOD. THE CITY'S POSITION IN THE THREE YEARS I HAVE BEEN HERE IS TO -- THE CODE REQUIRES A SIDEWALK. ONE OF THE FAILINGS OF -- THAT THE CITY IS GUILTY OF IS NOT GETTING THAT SIDEWALK IN PLACE. IT IS ACCEPTING A PAYMENT IN LIEU -- IN THAT PAYMENT IN LIEU NEVER APPEARS. WE HAVE DEVELOPERS WHO COME IN ALL THE TIME AND SAY, WELL, IT DOESN'T NEED TO ANYWHERE. WHY SHOULD WE PUT IT IN? BUT WE TALK ABOUT FIVE OR 10 YEARS TIME WHEN SIDEWALS ARE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET. WHEN THE STREETS ARE IMPROVED. IT IS VERY UNLIKELY THAT WE WILL GET THAT PAYMENT IN LIEU AT THE RATE FROM AN INFLATIONARY POINT OF VIEW THAT WOULD COVER THE ADDITIONAL SIDEWALL. THAT HAS BEEN STAFF'S POSITION. IT CAN BE CHANGED. YOU CAN REQUIRE A PAYMENT IN LIEU. AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE SIDEWALK BEING IN PLACE, BUT THE SIDEWALK BEING IN PLACE IS A REQUIREMENT OF CITY CODE. THAT CAN BE WAIVED IN TERMS OF 
          PAYMENT IN LIEU. >> LEAVE IT IN THERE, I GUESS. 
          >> READY? >> READY TO VOTE? WE HAVE A 
          MOTION, RIGHT? >> WE HAVE A MOTION. 
          >> YEAH. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? LET'S 
          VOTE. PASTOR KENNETH JOHNSON >> NO. CITY COMMISSION 
          >> YES MA'AM. MADAME MAYOR >> YES MA'AM. 
          [d.  Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Review and approval of a major site plan for a project known as The District for the development of 18,000 square feet of office / flex space located south of Okeechobee Road and west of McNeil Road in Fort Pierce. Parcel ID(s): 2419-241-0001-010-7 and 2419-244-0035-000-6.]
          >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. >> NO MA'AM. FORT PIERCE 
          >> NO MA'AM. >> THIS IS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF 18,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE SOUTH OF OKEECHOBEE ROAD. 
          >> WE HAVE THE MEETING NOTICE AND THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS FOR 
          THIS ITEM. >> IN THE MEETING REQUIRE MEDS. 
          THE ADVERTISEMENT COMES HAVE BEEN MET. 
          >> WOULD YOU ASK ABOUT EXPERT TAKE MEDICATIONS? COMMISSIONER 
          BRODERICK . >> NO. 
          >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> I'M GOING TO GO WITH NO MA'AM RIGHT NOW. 
          I'LL LET YOU KNOW. >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. 
          >> NO MA'AM. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SWEAR IN 
          THE WITNESSES? >> COULD YOU PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? 
          >> PROCEED. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> LONG NIGHT OF QUASIJUDICIAL. 
          >> OH MY GOSH. >> I KNOW HOW HARD YOU HAVE 
          WORKED. >> IT'S CRAZY. 
          >> THIS APPLICATION IS A MAJOR SITE PLAN. IT IS NAMED THE DISTRICT. IT IS LOCATED OFF MCNEIL ROAD. THE APPLICANT IS HALEY WARD, REPRESENTED BY CONNOR KENNEDY. THE SUMMARY FOR THIS IS THE PROPOSAL DEVELOPMENT OF 18,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE FLEX SPACE ON 3.37 ACRES. IT IS WEST OF MCNEIL ROAD. APPROXIMATELY 500 FEET FROM ITS INTERSECTION WITH OKEECHOBEE ROAD TO THE NORTH. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS OFF OKEECHOBEE AND WELL WITHIN AN AREA OF CITY LIMITS. THERE IS THE ORIENTATION WITH THE NORTH UPWARDS. THAT MIGHT CHANGE IN 
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THE PRESENTATION, SO I WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT LATER. 
          MCNEIL ROAD. THERE IS A CANAL THAT GOES ALONG THE REAR. AND OKEECHOBEE EAST, WEST, AND NORTH ARE PRIMARILY C3. THERE IS A CANAL SEPARATING SOME C1 AND UPON DEVELOPMENT TO THE SOUTH. THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL. AGAIN, MAINLY SEPARATED BY THE RIGHT-OF-WAY CANAL. RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH. NOW, HERE IS HOW THE -- I THINK I HAVE SWITCHED IT AROUND. THE CANAL THERE IS -- AT LEAST TO THIS SITE. TO THE LEFT OF THE SITE. YES. I'VE GOT MYSELF DISORIENTED. 
          >> SO THIS IS THE SITE PLAN. THERE ARE NO WETLANDS ON THE SITE. NO THREATENED SPECIES. THERE'S A LOT OF INVASIVE EXOTIC VEGETATION ON THE PROPERTY. THE LANDSCAPE PLAN MEETS THE CODE IN TERMS OF ITS REQUIRED AND PROVIDED TREES. AND THE TOTAL SHRUBS AND NATIVE SHRUBS, ET CETERA, PROVIDED. SO, FROM ABOVE, WE HAVE A RENDERING OF THE PROPOSAL. IT IS ACCESSED FROM MCNEIL ROAD. IT INCORPORATES MURALS ALONG CERTAIN SITE ELEVATIONS. IN THE NARRATIVE FROM THE ARCHITECT DOES POINT OUT THAT IT IS TRYING TO USE A MODERN -- IT DOES USE A MODERN? -- CLEAN ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS. ARCTIC ELATION, VERTICALLY, AND THERE ARE STOREFRONTS RATHER THAN INDUSTRIAL TYPE APPEARANCES. THERE ARE CANOPIES THAT RUN ALONG THE FRONT, AND CERTAIN SITE ELEVATIONS. AND THEY HAVE SHIELDED ALL THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT THE AC UNITS BEHIND THE PARAPET, SO THEY ARE NOT VISIBLE. IN OTHER RESPECTS, IT MEETS CITY CODE, AND SO STAFF ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE MAJOR SITE PLAN, AND WE HAVE SEVEN CONDITIONS ATTACHED TO THAT. THE UNITY OF TITLE. WE ARE REQUIRING A GENERAL ADDRESS AND A COMPLETION CERTIFICATE BY A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AND IT SHALL BE SUBMITTED AND APPROVED BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO FINDING THE CO. ACCEPTING THOSE MURALS WILL NEED A SIGNED PERMIT. ALL OF THE APPLICABLE STATE FEDERAL PERMITS SHALL BE OBTAINED BEFORE COMMENCEMENT OF IT DEVELOPED. PRIOR TO COMMENCEMENT OF THE WORK ON SITE, THE APPLICANT SHALL CONFIRM WITH THE CITY ARBORIST THAT THE REQUIRED VEGETATION REMOVAL PERMIT AND TREAT MITIGATION HAS BEEN SATISFIED, AND THE SEDIMENT AND EROSION CONTROL PLAN, INCLUDING AREAS OF ANY SENSITIVE HABITAT THAT IS FOUND FROM THE INITIAL REVIEW. 
          IT SHALL BE APPROVED PRIOR TO ANY CLEARING ACTIVITY. 
          ALTERNATIVELY, THE COMMISSION CAN APPROVE WITH AMENDED CONDITIONS OR DISAPPROVE. YEAH. IN THE STAFF REPORT, THERE IS MENTION OF A DRAINAGE EASEMENT AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON WITH THE PROPERTY, AND I THINK WITH THE APPLICANT IS 
          THE BEST TO TALK ABOUT THIS. >> QUESTIONS OF STAFF? QUESTIONS OF STAFF? ALL RIGHT. I WOULD LIKE THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD, PLEASE. STATE YOUR NAME. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS 
          OF STAFF? >> I DO NOT. GOOD EVENING, MADAME. AND COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU FOR HEARING THE ITEM TONIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER PRESENTATIONS OR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO SHARE UNLESS YOU ALL HAVE QUESTIONS. 
          I'LL BE HERE IF YOU NEED ME. >> QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
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ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. 
          AND YOU WERE SWORN IN, RIGHT, SIR? 
          >> RIGHT. >> RIGHT. SO WE ARE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. 
          >> MADAME MAYOR, I HAVE A QUICK COMMENT. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT. IT IS WHAT WE SPECIALIZE IN. THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT IS IN SHORT SUPPLY IN THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE. THIS WILL BE VERY SUCCESSFUL VERY QUICKLY. I THINK IT IS PERFECT LOCATED, PERFECT PRODUCT FOR THAT QUARTER, AND YOU'RE GOING 
          TO DO WELL. >> I AGREE. YOU WANT TO MAKE A 
          MOTION? >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          >> SECOND. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? CALL ROLE, PLEASE. PASTOR KENNETH JOHNSON 
          >> YES. MADAME MAYOR >> YES MA'AM. 
          [e.  Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Approval of a Final Plat for Phase 1 of the Savannah Preserve PD. Located at or near the East Side of S US Highway 1 at the intersection of Dickson Drive and lying north of the existing Gator Trace Planned Development. Parcel ID(s): 2427-433-0002-000-1, 2426-333-0015-000-5, 2427-433-0001-000-4 & 2434-121-0001-000-8.]
          >> MAYOR HUDSON. >> YES MA'AM. 
          >> YOU FOR STICKING WITH US. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> LAST QUASIJUDICIAL IS  REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF A MAJOR SITE PLAN FOR A PROJECT KNOWN AS THE DISTRICT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF 18,000 SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE / FLEX SPACE LOCATED SOUTH OF OKEECHOBEE -- AT THE INTERSECTION OF DICKSON DRIVE AND LYING NORTH OF THE EXISTING GATOR TRACE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. 
          >> THE ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET. 
          >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. >> I MET WITH HER THE 
          DEVELOPERS. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES. 
          >> I MET WITH THE DEVELOPER. >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. 
          >> YES. I MET WITH THE DEVELOPER. 
          >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK >> MOTION TO SPEAK ON SADDAM, WILL YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? 
          >> YES. 
          >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. CITY COMMISSION, THIS IS PHASE ONE FINAL PLAT FOR THE PRESERVE. AND IT IS LOCATED ON -- SORRY. IT IS LOCATED ON FOUR PARCELS. YOU CAN READ THEM FROM THE SCREEN. I THINK THAT WILL SAVE A BIT OF TIME. SO, THE FINAL PLAT IS 203 TOWNHOME LOTS. A COMMUNITY RECREATION TRACT AND AREAS RESERVED FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. THAT WOULD COME IN AS ANOTHER BUT THE PHASE TWO PLAT. LOCATED AT OR NEAR THE EAST SIDE OF SOUTH U.S. HIGHWAY 1 AT THE INTERSECTION OF FICTION -- DIXON DRIVE. THE SITE LOCATION IS HIGHLIGHTED IN THE PLAT AREA -- LOCATED -- HIGHLIGHTED IN RED. THE ACTUAL SITE IS LOCATED IN GOLD BOUNDARY. 
          PHASE ONE. THIS IS PART OF THE PD. AND THAT WAS APPROVED JULY 18TH 2022 AND THAT WAS THE LAYOUT THAT WAS APPROVED. PHASE ONE OF THAT, WHICH IS SUBJECT TO THE PLAT. IT IS HIGHLIGHTED IN THE RED BOUNDARY. WE DO HAVE AN AMENDMENT, AS YOU LOOK AT THE FINAL PLAT, AND WE HAVE LOOKED AT THAT. IT IS CONSIDERED WITH MINOR REVISIONS. AS IT DOES NOT INVOLVE AN INCREASE IN THE LAND AREA TO BE DIVIDED, OR RESULT IN AN INCREASE IN THE TOTAL NUMBER OF LOTS TO BE CREATED. THE ARRANGEMENT OF THE LOTS ARE PRIMARILY, AS YOU SAY, SQUARED OFF. THOSE HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND THEIR CONSULTANT. AND APPROVED. 
          SO, RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF IS IT MEETS THE CRITERIA AS SPECIFIED IN CHAPTER 121 OF THE CITY CODE ORDINANCES, AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPED CODE ENCUMBRANCE A PLAN. THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVE, THERE IS A FRENCH SPELLING THERE. 
          >> THERE IS A WONDERFUL WORD THERE. 
          >> THE FINAL PLAT WITH TWO CONDITIONS, WHICH ARE STANDARD CONDITIONS TO SUPPLY TWO MILERS PRIOR TO THE PLAT BEING RECORDED WITH THE COURTS IN IT HAS TO BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH FLORIDA STATE STATUTE ONCE IN 7.111. PRIOR TO THE REST OF THE MILERS, THE CITY IS REVIEWING IT. IT IS IN THE AMOUNT OF THE AGREED OPINION OF PROBABLE COST IS CONFIRMED RECEIVED BY THE CITY ENGINEER -- THAT WILL BE SIGNED OFF BY THE CITY ENGINEER, AND STAFF WILL BE 
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ABLE TO RELEASE MYLARS. THE COMMISSION CAN APPROVE WITH CONDITIONS, OR DENY THE APPLICATION. 
          >> QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> YES SIR? 
          >> WHY IS THIS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE FINAL PLAT? 
          >> THAT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION, BECAUSE THE STATE HAS JUST AMENDED THE PLAT. THE STATUTE. ON JULY THE FIRST, IT WILL NO LONGER BE COMING TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. THEY HAVE MANDATED THAT THESE TYPES OF APPLICATIONS DO NOT COME BEFORE PLANNING BOARD 
          OR CITY COMMISSION. >> THEY ALWAYS HAVE PREVIOUSLY? 
          >> YES. YES. >> SO, THIS IS A MINISTRY TO 
          REVIEW ONCE AGAIN? >> IT IS GOING TO ADMINISTRATIVE 
          REVIEW. YES. >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION. 
          >> I UNDERSTAND THIS PROCESS QUITE WELL . WE HAVE DONE IT DOZENS AND DOZENS OF TIMES. THE SITE PLAN HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. THE REASON THE PLATTING COMES IN LATER LOGICALLY IS BECAUSE OF THE COST. 
          >> YES. THAT IS WHY IT ALWAYS COMES IN BEHIND THE SITE. 
          >> THE COST TO HIM? >> THE DEVELOPER. THE PLATTING IS ACTUALLY THE EXPENSIVE PORTION OF THE PROCESS. THE SITE PLAN IS MORE THE ARTISTIC END OF IT. 
          >> THE PLATTING IS WHERE THINGS GET COSTLY. THAT IS WHY IT ALWAYS COMES IN AT THE END OF THE PROCESS. 
          >> OKAY. SO, YEAH. >> THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE 
          FUNCTION. >> ANY OTHER CUSHIONS OF STAFF? 
          >> ALL RIGHT. WILL THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD? SIR, I DIDN'T SEE 
          YOU GET SWORN IN. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAME MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS BOB RAINES. 
          I'M A LAND-USE ATTORNEY WITH THE LAW FIRM. WE ARE NOT TESTIFYING. WE ARE JUST ADVOCATES. SO, THAT HAS A WAS 
          BEEN MY UNDERSTANDING. >> I THINK IN THE PAST, WE HAVE 
          ASKED THEM. >> I SAW YOU VERY POINTEDLY STAY SEATED, SO I YOU MUST HAVE A REASON. DO WE HAVE A POLICY ON 
          THAT? >> MADAME MAYOR, NOT THAT I KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT THE ISSUE IS GOING TO BE WHETHER MR. RAINES IS PROVIDING TESTIMONY OR WHETHER HE'S JUST GOING TO BE ASKING QUESTIONS OF WITNESSES. ANYBODY THAT IS ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS OR PROVIDING TESTIMONY NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN. 
          >> I'M HAPPY TO BE SWORN IN IF THAT MAKES IT EASIER. 
          >> WELL, YOU'RE GOING TO TELL THE TRUTH EITHER WAY. I'M QUITE SURE. LET'S SWEAR YOU IN, JUST IN CASE. 
          >> I SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT 
          THE TRUTH? >> I DO. 
          >> WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN SO WE CAN START ALL OVER? 
          >> MY NAME IS BOB RAINES. >> WELCOME. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. FRIEDMAN? 
          ] >> VERY QUICKLY, AS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, WE HAVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF 
          APPROVAL. CORRECT? >> YES. 
          >> AND AS PART OF YOUR STAFF REPORT, THERE WAS A MEMO THAT CAME FROM YOUR ENGINEERING MANAGERS. IS THAT CORRECT? 
          >> YES. >> AND ATTACHED TO THAT IS A LETTER FROM NORTHSTAR GEOMETRIS WHO IS AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT. IN THAT LETTER, THEY STATED THAT THEY REVIEWED THIS PLAT. AND DOES THAT MEET THE REFORMS OF CHAPTER 177. IS THAT CORRECT? 
          >> IT DID. YES. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> AND I CAN GO AHEAD AND PROCEED. YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY STATED WHAT I WAS GOING TO STATE, WHICH IS REALLY, WITH RESPECT TO THE PLAT, WHILE THIS IS A QUASIJUDICIAL MATTER, IF WE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES GOT 177 IN THE CITY, IT ACTUALLY COMES, AS MR. TAYLOR POINTED OUT, AND COMMISSIONER TAYLOR AND COMMISSIONER BRODERICK POINTED OUT IT BECOMES ADMINISTERED. FOR THE RECORD, I DID PROVIDE IN ADVANCE SOME CASE TO THAT EFFECT A FEW DAYS IN ADVANCE OF THIS. 
          WITH THAT, I DO HAVE FOLKS HERE THAT CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. WE DO BELIEVE THAT WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL THAT WE DO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS. AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE THE PLAT. 
          >> QUESTIONS OF THE SUPPLICANT? 
          >> YES SIR. >> I MET WITH YOUR CLIENTS, AND I HAD SOME SUGGESTIONS, AND REQUESTS RELATIVE TO DRAINAGE ISSUES AND THINGS OF THIS NATURE THAT THEY WERE INVESTIGATING THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO COMMENT ON THAT AT THIS TIME. 
          >> I'LL BE GLAD TO HAVE THEM COME UP AND COMMENT. 
          >> ONE OTHER COMMENT. YOUR CLIENT MUST BE THRILLED THAT YOU'VE BEEN SITTING HERE FOR FIVE HOURS IN IT. 
          >> YOUR BILLING TO PERMIT WILL BE THRILLED. 
          >> I'VE ALREADY BEEN TOLD ABOUT THAT. 
          >> YEAH RIGHT. >> WE DIDN'T ARRANGE IT LIKE 
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          THAT FOR YOUR BENEFIT. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> MY WIFE ACTUALLY THINKS I HAVE A GIRLFRIEND BECAUSE SHE IS 
          WONDERING WHERE I AM. >> MY NAME IS JOHN. 
          >> SAY YOUR LAST NAME AGAIN. >> 
          >> WE HAVE A QUESTION. >> FOLLOWING OUR MEETING, WE DISCUSSED A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS. 
          >> YES. WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO DO TO ADDRESS THIS? 
          >> I TALKED TO THE NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH ABOUT THE ANIMAL ISSUES, AND WE ARE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO TRY TO HELP WITH THAT, AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH OTHER PEOPLE IN THE AREA TO SEE WHAT ELSE WE COULD DO IN THE VICINITY TO HANDLE THOSE 
          INTERVALS. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU ARE 
          PROACTIVELY PURSUING THIS. >> RIGHT. 
          >> WHEN I GET PHONE CALLS FROM THEM, WE WILL CONTACT YOU. 
          >> GIVE THEM YOUR NAME. >> WE TALKED TO THEM, AS WELL. 
          >> I KNOW IT IS NOT PART OF THE PLATTING PROCESS, BUT THIS CAME UP IN CONVERSATION IN MY OFFICE AND I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS OF IMPORTANCE TO THE NEIGHBORS THERE, SO THANK YOU FOR 
          ADDRESSING IT. >> THANK YOU, SIR. ANYTHING 
          ELSE? ANYTHING ELSE? >> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WANT TO TESTIFY ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE? SEEING NO ONE, I WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR US TO DISCUSS, OR A MISSION. 
          >> MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          >> SECOND. >> SECOND. WITH THE CONDITIONS BUT WITH WHATEVER THE CONDITIONS ARE. THERE IS A SECOND. CALL THE 
          ROLL, PLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. 
          >> YES. CITY COMMISSION >> YES MA'AM. 
          >> MAYOR HUDSON. >> THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR STAYING LATE AND HANGING IN THERE WITH US. WE APPRECIATE IT. 
          >> THANK YOU. AND MR. FRIEDMAN -- THIS REPRESENTED A LOT OF WORK FOR YOU, AND I KNOW THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> ON TOP OF THAT, MAYOR. >> I KNOW IT. YOU ARE DANCING AS 
          FAST AS YOU CAN. >> 
          >> GO HOME. GET OUT OF HERE. >> WE RELEASE YOU. WE RELEASE 
          YOU FOR A FEW HOURS. >> SO, WE CAN MOVE ON. 
          [16. COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION]
          >> COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. >> THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. SEEING NO ONE, I BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. WE WILL MOVE ON. 
          >> IT IS FROM THE CITY MANAGER. 
          >> NO COMMENTS. >> OKAY. WE WILL MOVE ON. 
          >> ANY COMMISSIONER WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT? 
          >> I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUICK ONES. I WILL MOVE QUICKLY. ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT THIS BODY HAS DISCUSSED RECENTLY IS TRASH TRAINS, OR TRAINS FULL OF TRASH COMING OUT OF MIAMI, UTILIZING FT. PIERCE AS THEIR TRANSFER STATION. ET CETERA. I INDICATED AT THE LAST MEETING THAT I WOULD UNDERTAKE SOME INQUIRIES AS TO WHAT WE COULD DO HERE. THERE HAS BEEN A TACIT AGREEMENT REACHED SUBJECT TO REVIEW OF THIS OF BODY AND A MORE FORMALIZED SETTING, BUT, I TOLD THEM MY OPINION WAS THAT THIS WAS AN ACCEPTABLE SOLUTION. WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, THEY INTEND TO MOVE, TRANSFER STATION OUT TO WEST ST. LUCIE COUNTY. 
          THE PRECISE LOCATION FOR THIS IS YET TO BE DETERMINED, AND THE PRECISE TIMELINE IS YET TO BE DETERMINED, BUT I HAVE TO INFORM YOU THAT THE OFFICE HAS BEEN A HAMMER ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, AND EXTREMELY HELPFUL IN REACHING A RESOLUTION. SO I HAVE BEEN IN CONSTANT COMMUNION WITH THEM. THE LATEST MITIGATION WAS THIS PAST MORNING. WHERE WE WERE FIRMING UP THE TIMELINES FOR THIS. THEY ARE PROJECTING WITH IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS, THIS WILL BE COMPLETED AND THIS ISSUE WILL BE OFF OF OUR RADAR SCREEN. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> ITEM NUMBER ONE. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS I RECENTLY HAD THE PLEASURE OF ATTENDING A MEETING I'M GOING TO REFER TO IT AS AN ANNEXATION SUMMIT. THE FIRST THAT I THINK IS GOING TO BE BROADENING OUT THIS TOPIC. IN ATTENDANCE AT THAT MEETING WAS CITY MANAGER CHESS. 
          ] FREEMAN AND JAVI CISNEROS. THEY HAVE SCHEMES AND PLANS AND THIS AND THAT. WE ARE SITTING HERE, TREADING WATER. IT WAS A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING TO COME TO SOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THEY'RE GOING AND HOW WE CAN TAG INTO THIS WHOLE PROCESS WITH THEM. CITY MANAGER CHESS TALKED ABOUT PERSONNEL NEEDED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. IT WAS MADE CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT KEVIN FREEMAN IN THE PLANNING TO PERMIT DOES NOT HAVE THE STAFFING CAPABILITY 
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TO MOVE THIS ITEM FORWARD. IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT? 
          >> YES IT IS. >> THE AGREEMENTS REACHED AT THAT MEETING IS THAT THE CITY AGAIN IS LOOKING TO MOVE THIS TOPIC FORWARD, AND THAT WE NEED TO BRING IN ENGAGED PERSONNEL THAT IS GOING TO TAKE THE LEAD ON THIS. I THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING, AND I THOUGHT THAT THE INFORMATION THAT WAS EXCHANGED WAS EXTENSIVE, AND VERY, VERY USEFUL. THE THIRD ITEM I HAVE TO REPORT ON TONIGHT -- ONE OF THE TOPICS THAT I HAVE BEEN -- I DON'T WANT TO BE CRITICAL OF, BUT COMMENTING ON EXTENSIVELY IS THE HIGHWAY MUSEUM. THE RENOVATION WORK. IN LIGHT OF THAT, THE HIGHWAYMAN MUSEUM BOARD OF DIRECTORS HAS PUT ME UNDER SIEGE. FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM. THEY HAVE BEEN VERY GRACIOUS ABOUT IT. WE HAVE SCHEDULED A MEETING WITH THEIR BOARD OF DIRECTORS. PLANNING ON BEATING -- BEING IN ATTENDANCE IS CITY MANAGER CHESS, CITY ATTORNEY HEDGES AND MYSELF. THE INTENT OF THIS MEETING IS TO HAVE A DISCUSSION OF THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF THEIR LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY, WITH FPRA AND TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME RESOLUTIONS AS TO THE INEQUITIES OF THAT LEASE AGREEMENT, RELATIVE TO COSTS, CONSTRUCTION COSTS, ONGOING OPERATIONAL COSTS, ET CETERA. I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A VERY EYE-OPENING MEETING FOR THEM BECAUSE CANDIDLY, THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR LEASE AGREEMENT MEANS. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO ATTENDING THAT MEETING WITH CITY REPRESENTATIVES, AND HAVING A VERY EDUCATIONAL AND INFORMATIVE GIVE-AND-TAKE WITH THE ORGANIZATION THAT WILL BE RUNNING THIS FACILITY, AND I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE VERY PRODUCTIVE FOR BOTH SIDES AND INFORMATIVE FOR ALL. THAT IS SCHEDULED IN MID JUNE SOMETIME. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> OKAY. WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO 
          NEXT? NO COMMENT? OKAY. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES., DO YOU 
          WANT TO GO NEXT? >> MAYOR, I WILL GO NEXT. I'M SITTING OVER HERE, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT SOME STUFF THAT HAPPENED TONIGHT. AND, I WANT EVERYBODY ON THIS BOARD TO UNDERSTAND AND REMEMBER THAT WE ARE ALL AWARE OF CERTAIN LEGISLATOR -- LEGISLATION THAT IS OUT HERE. AND WHEN WE ARE IN QUASIS OR WE TALK TO DEVELOPERS AND WE HEAR CERTAIN WORDS OR TERMS OF PROJECTS, THAT SHOULD TRIGGER OUR KNOWLEDGE OF THE CURRENT LEGISLATION THAT IS GOING TO FLORIDA. AND TONIGHT, I THINK WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP CONTROL OF A PROPERTY AND PROTECT A NEIGHBORHOOD FROM A LAW THAT NOW WILL DESTROY THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, FURTHER DETAILS, I THINK THAT WE HAVE LOST CONTROL OF WHATEVER IS COMING TO THAT DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THE KEY TERMS WERE MENTIONED TONIGHT, AND THEY WERE MENTIONED IN MY MEETING. I KNOW IT WAS -- DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS MENTIONED IN YOUR MEETINGS BUT IT WAS MENTIONED IN MY MEETING WITH THE DEVELOPER. GOING FORWARD, WHEN WE HEAR CERTAIN TERMS, I THINK WE SHOULD BE VERY CLEAR THAT IF WE HAVE A CHANCE TO CONTROL WHAT GOES ON IN OUR COMMUNITY, WE SHOULD DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO KEEP IT IN OUR CONTROL, AND TONIGHT, I FEEL THAT WE LOST THAT CONTROL ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, AND I THINK IT IS GOING TO COME BACK TO BITE US. THAT IS MY OPINION. 
          THAT IS BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I HAD WITH THAT DEVELOPER, AND I'M PRETTY SURE THAT HE SAID THE SAME THING TO YOU GUYS. I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. THAT'S WHERE I'M 
          AT. >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. 
          >> I HAVE NO COMMENTS, EITHER. >> I THINK THAT WE SHALL ALL ADJOURN. AND LONG NIGHT.
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