[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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          >>> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. PLEASE STAND BY THE OPENING PRAYER BY BELINDA PIZARRO, CHAPLIN FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. 
          >>> GOOD EVENING, LET'S LOOK TO THE LORD, WE SEEK YOUR WISDOM AND GUIDANCE, HELP US SEE THINGS THROUGH YOUR EYES SO WE MAY MAKE DECISIONS ALIGNED WITH YOUR WILL WITH THIS GREAT COMMUNITY. GRANT US THE ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE EFFECTIVELY AND SPEAK WITH KINDNESS AND REMAIN UNITED IN OUR PURPOSE. MAY WE WORK COLLABORATIVELY TOWARDS OUR COMMON GOALS, MOST IMPORTANTLY THAT YOUR HOLY SPIRIT GUIDE US IN EVERY MATTER. WE ASK THESE THINGS IN YOUR MIGHTY AND MATCHLESS NAME, AMEN. 
          >>> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          >> CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. 
          [5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
          >>> FIRST ITEM IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 16, 
          2025 REGULAR MEETING. >> VOTE FOR APPROVAL. 
          >> SECOND. >> THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND, CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. 
          [8. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
          >> WE MOVE ON TO ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA AND 
          APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA? >> ANY DELATIONS? 
          >> MOTION. >> MOTION AND A SECOND, CALL THE 
          [11. CONSENT AGENDA]
ROLL, PLEASE. 
          >> NO ONE SIGN UP FOR COMMENTS. SO, WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE 
          CONSENT AGENDA. >> ANY ITEMS THAT ANY COMMISSIONER WOULD LIKE TO PULL FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA? 
          >> MAYOR? >> YES, SIR. 
          >> I HAVE SEVERAL. >> OKAY. B, E, F, G, L AND M. 
          THE FIRST WAS D-AS IN DAVID? >> YES. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> I WANT TO ADD TO THAT ITEM I, YES. I WAS GOING TO DO THAT MYSELF, SO, GOOD FOR YOU. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? >> CONSENT AGENDA REGULAR 
          BUSINESS TONIGHT? >> SO, CURTIS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE REST OF THE AGENDA. 
          >> I MOVE BUT FOR D., E, F, G, I, K, L AND M. 
          >> I AM SORRY. OKAY. NOT K. SO, I MOVE APPROVAL FOR ALL OF THE 
          ITEMS BUT D, E, F, G, I, L, M. >> MOTION AND A SECOND CALL THE 
          [D.  Approval of Change Order No. 13 - General Contractor Services, Second Floor Leveling in the amount of $8,385.68 for the City of Fort Pierce Florida Highwaymen Museum renovation project.]
          [E.  Review of Change Order No. 14 - General Contractor Services, Replacement of Windows in the amount of $26,166 for the City of Fort Pierce Florida Highwaymen Museum renovation project.]
          [F.  Approval of Change Order No. 15 - General Contractor Services for a Dumpster Enclosure in the amount of $26,775 for the City of Fort Pierce Florida Highwaymen Museum renovation project as required per the City Code.]
          [G.  Approval of Change Order No. 16 - General Contractor Services, Expanded Parking Lot Scope in the amount of $41,229.43 to correct the parking lot elevation to prevent water intrusion for the Highwaymen Museum renovation.]
          ROLL, PLEASE. >> 
          >> I AM GOING TO PRESUME WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THE FOUR CHANGE ORDERS. WE WILL PUT THOSE TOGETHER. THAT IS THE CHANGE ORDER FOR THE HIGHWAY AMEND, CHANGE ORDER 13. AND THE FIRST ONE IS CHANGE ORDER FOR GENERAL CONTRACTOR SERVICE FOR REPLACEMENT OF THE WINDOWS. AND CHANGE ORDER 15 IS CONTRACTOR SERVICES FOR THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE, AND CHANGE ORDER 16 IS FOR CONTRACTOR SERVICES FOR THE EXPANDED PARKING LOT. WE 
          WILL START WITH THOSE FOUR. >> OKAY. 
          >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK? >> OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THESE LINE ITEMS FOR SEVERAL MONTHS NOW. MAY I? NOT GOING TO PUT YOU IN THE HOT SEAT. 
          >> YES, SIR? >> BREAK IT INTO TWO PIECES HERE. ONE IS THAT, FROM YOUR POSITION AS MANAGING THIS PROJECT IS THIS THE EXTENT OF THE WORK ORDERS WE SHOULD 
          CONTEMPLATE RECEIVING? >> THIS IS IT THAT WILL COME BEFORE YOU. THESE ARE THE FINAL ITEMS THAT NEED YOUR REVIEW SO 
          THAT WE CAN FINISH THE PROJECT. >> OKAY. AND, I KNOW THAT SOME 
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OF THE WORK WAS IN PROCESS, ACTUALLY, MONTHS AGO. 
          ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAD INPUT, TOO? I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU AS WELL IF YOU DON'T MIND. I BELIEVE THE FLOOR 
          LEVELING WAS DONE? >> YES, SIR. 
          >> AND THE ISSUE OF THE WINDOWS AND DOORS. I HEARD THERE IS A IMPACT WINDOWS. SECURITY CONCERN WE WILL NOT INCREASE OUR SECURITY BY CHANGING OUT PERFECTLY FUNCTIONAL, YOU KNOW, IMPACT WINDOWS AND DOORS? I KNOW, ARNOLD, YOU DISCUSSED A SECURITY CONCERN, I AGREED WITH THAT UNTIL I FOUND OUT THAT IS WHAT IS THERE CURRENTLY. I AM NOT IN SUPPORT OF SPENDING $26,000 FOR REPLACING IMPACT GLASS WITH IMPACT GLASS. 
          DUMPSTER PROPOSAL. SOMEONE SAID TO ME I BUY THEM REGULARLY, THEY ARE $25. THIS NUMBER IS RIGHT IN, DIALED IN WITH WHAT A DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE COSTS. SIR, THE PARKING LOT. LET'S DISCUSS THIS. I WENT AND LOOKED AT THE CURRENT CONDITIONS, I HAVE SEEN THEM A COUPLE TIMES BUT I CAST AN EYE SPECIFICALLY TO THIS PROBLEM. I AROUND STAND THAT YOU HAD WEIGHTED INTO THIS TO MODIFY THE SPECIFICATIONS TO LOWER THE COST. 
          >> CORRECT. >> CAN YOU GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE PACKAGE YOU ARE RECOMMENDING INCORPORATES? AND IS YOUR CONFIDENCE LEVEL WITH THE REGRADING AND REUSING THE UNDERLAYMENT MATERIAL TO MY UNDERSTANDING? 
          >> YES, I CAME IN LATE ON THAT PART OF IT. THE PLAN WAS ALREADY 
          IN PLACE. >> RIGHT. 
          >> IT WAS MORE THE METHODOLOGY ON WHAT THEY WILL BE REPLACING VERSUS WHAT THEY WANTED TO REPLACE. ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE ARE DOING IS GRADING THE PARKING LOT TO THE ONE CORNER. THERE WAS, TO MY KNOWLEDGE AND BASED ON WHAT I HAVE SEEN OUT THERE, NO ISSUES WITH THE MATERIAL. IT DID NOT MAKE SENSE TO ME WHEN WE WERE LOWERING IT. WE ASKED THEM TO REVISE THE BID, LEAVING THE MATERIAL THERE, MINUS THE MATERIAL THAT THEY NEED TO 
          REMOVE TO LOWER THE PARKING LOT. >> THEY ARE GOING TO LEAVE . 
          >> UNLESS THEY FIND THERE IS AN ISSUE ONCE THEY UNCOVER IT. I 
          DON'T SEE IT. >> NO FAILURE IN THE PARKING 
          LOT. >> RIGHT, MY POINT REMOVING THE MATERIAL NOT BRINGING IN NEW MATERIAL 
          >> GOING OVER IT WITH A NEW INCH, INCH AND A HALF? 
          >> YES. ASPHALT, THEY WILL HAVE TO MILL IT, MILL IT, REMOVE THE 
          ASPHALT. >> GRADE IT. RECOMPACT. BUT THE 
          GRADE SHOT IS STRAIGHT >> CORRECT. WE ARE DROPPING IT. 
          IT HAS BEEN A MINUTE BUT FOUR TO SIX INCHES IN ONE CORNER. 
          >> WITH YOUR EXPERTISE AT HAND ARE YOU WILLING TO DO INSPECTIONS WHILE THAT IS GOING ON? I AM CONCERN. I DON'T WANT TO PUT ON NEW ASPHALT IF WE CAN GET YOUR EYES TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROCESS. I THINK THIS NUMBER IS LESS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT ON THAT BY THE WAY, SAVED THE CITY A BUNCH OF MONEY. WE NEED TO DO THAT ON A VARIETY OF THINGS. I APPRECIATE YOUR INITIATIVE TO DO THAT. THOSE ARE ALL OF MY QUESTIONS. I WANTED THE DETAILS ON IT I DON'T WANT TO DO A HALF-BAKED JOB AND COME BACK FIVE YEARS FROM NOW AND A PARKING LOT IN DETERIORATION. THE DRAINAGE PROBLEM IS LEGIT. I LOOKED AT THE ENTRANCE AND SAID THIS IS NOT GOING TO WORK. WE WILL HAVE A BUILDING THAT THE FIRST FLOOR HAS STANDING WATER IN IT. ANY TIME WE HAVE A SERIOUS TROPICAL SYSTEM COMING THROUGH. SO, I THINK THE SOLUTION YOU ARE PROPOSING IS SOUND, SPOT ON, IT WILL RESOLVE THIS PROBLEM LONG-TERM. I SUPPORT THAT, THAT CHANGE. THE ONLY CHANGE I DO NOT SUPPORT IS IMPACT WINDOWS THAT IS WHERE I AM COMING FROM. I WANT TO PULL THE WHOLE PACKAGE AND GET INPUT ON THE WHOLE PACKAGE. 
          >> ANYBODY ELSE? >> MADAM MAYOR, A COUPLE QUESTIONS. FIRST, WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE IMPACT WINDOWS, RIGHT? I SAW THE QUOTE, THE BID, I AROUND STAND THEY ARE, TO WHAT GRADE ARE WE AT IMPACT WITH THESE WINDOWS AND TO, DO WE UNDERSTAND THAT? IS THIS, DO THEY RATE THEM BY HURRICANE SERIES? DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT GRADE THESE WINDOWS 
          ARE THAT ARE THERE? >> SOMEBODY. 
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          >> THEY HAVE TO CARRY THE GRADE. >> NEAR WITH THAT, YEP. 
          >> WHEN THE WINDOWS WERE MANUFACTURE THEY MET IT AT THAT 
          TIME >> THESE ARE ALL OVER THE COMPLETE BUILDING, CORRECT? AND THE DOOR IS A DOOR HURRICANE? 
          >> DOORS WERE A PART OF THE GRANT AND THEY WILL REPLACE. AT THE TIME WE PUT IN THE GRANT THEY WERE NOT. SO, WE INCLUDED THE DOORS TO BE REPLACED TO BE HURRICANE IMPACT. AND AT THAT TIME THE WINDOWS ARE DETERMINED TO BE HURRICANE-IMPACT. THAT IS 
          WHY THEY WERE NOT INCLUDED. >> BUT THE DOORS HAVE BEEN 
          REPLACED? >> YES, SIR. 
          >> WHEN YOU SAY GRADE, THIS PARKING LOT, HELP ME UNDERSTAND TO BASICALLY YOU ARE MOVING THE PITCH OF THE PARKING LOT TO WHAT PART IS IT GOING TO THE NORTHWEST? GRADING TO? WHICH IS 
          HEADED TOWARDS THE NORTH? >> SOUTHEAST, I BELIEVE. 
          >> SOUTHEAST. >> THERE IS AN EXISTING STORM DRAIN THERE. THEY ARE GOING TO LOWER, FROM WHAT I REMEMBER, IT HAS BEEN A MINUTE, LOWER THE TOP OF THE STRUCTURE A FEW INCHES TO ALLOW IT TO DRAIN TO THAT POINT, PULL IT AWAY FROM THE BUILDING 
          >> THAT IS MY CONCERN, RIGHT. SO, I DON'T RECALL EXACTLY BUT THE FRONT OF THE BUILD DEGREE NOT HAVE AN OVER HANG PITCH OR ROOF THAT EXCEEDS IT. YOU WALK RIGHT IN FROM THE PARKING LOT RIGHT INTO THE DOOR AND THUS THERE IS AN UNCOVERED WALK WAY THERE. YOU ARE SAYING YOU ARE GOING TO GRADE IT SOUTHEAST THAT 
          THIS WATER IS GOING TO RUN TO? >> YES. 
          >> I GOT IT, I KNOW IT IS GOING AWAY WHICH WAY IS IT GOING. 
          >> I BELIEVE IT IS. YES. PRETTY SURE THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. 
          >> IT IS. >> OKAY. 
          >> ALL RIGHT. SO THAT LEAVES, BASICALLY, THE OTHER PORTION OF THE PARKING LOT NOT TOUCHABLE, BASICALLY. IT IS IN GOOD CONDITION. THROWING A TOPCOAT ON THAT? 
          >> IT IS A MILD GRADE, STARTING FROM ONE END AND GOES TO THAT CORNER. EVERYTHING SHOULD FLOW TO THAT CORNER. 
          >> I DON'T WANT WATER GATHERING AT THE FRONT DOOR THAT IS THE 
          ISSUE. >> THAT IS IT. 
          >> THAT IS THE KEY. THIS PITCH WILL ALLOW FOR THAT AND YOU RATE 
          IT ON DOWNFALL OF RAIN? >> THE CIVIL DESIGNER DID. WE 
          JUST REVIEWED THE PLAN. >> OKAY. OKAY. I GUESS WITH THIS IMPACT TO THE WINDOW, THING, AGAIN, I AM WITH COMMISSIONER ON THIS IS THAT, HURRICANE IMPACT WINDOWS ARE THERE. TOP AND 
          BOTTOM. >> YES, SIR. 
          >> SO, THAT MAKES IT, THIS PITCHING, NO QUESTIONS AND ISSUES WITH IT, MINE WAS MORE OF THE WINDOWS, THE DOOR AND THE GRADED PARKING LOT. MR. THOMAS DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD TO 
          THIS ON THE WINDOWS? >> I AM NOT THE WINDOW GUY. 
          >> OKAY. >> ARE YOU THE WINDOW PERSON MR. 
          THOMAS? >> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, I THINK I CAN SPEAK TO THIS TO SOME DEGREE. 
          >> I THINK IT IS ACCURATE, EXISTING IMPACT WINDOWS, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS THERE IS NOT MUCH CHANGE IN THE CODES AND CONSTRUCTION THAT WOULD MERIT CHANGING PERFECTLY GOOD IMPACT WINDOWS WITH NEW IMPACT WINDOWS. 
          >> OKAY. >> IN MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION. I AGREE WITH THE DETERMINATION THAT YOU ALL HAVE MADE. 
          >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE? COMMISSIONER 
          GAINES. >> I AM JUST GOING TO FOLLOW UP, WE AGREED IN THE WEEKLY MEETINGS, THE WINDOWS, THEY ARE THERE, PROTECTING WHO IS THERE, I AM HAPPY WITH THAT. THIS PARKING LOT. USING YOUR EXPERTISE AND EVERYBODY'S EXPERTISE, WHAT I DON'T WANT IS SIX MONTHS, A YEAR, COME BACK HERE AND YOU ARE SAYING OH, WELL, THAT DID NOT WORK AND WE NEED TO REDO THIS PARKING LOT OR SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THIS PARKING LOT WHERE THE WATER IS NOT GOING HERE. WHATEVER. SO, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO DO TODAY THAT IT IS GOING TO BE A FUNCTIONAL, LOOK GOOD, USE QUOTES "LOOK GOOD PARKING LOT" WHAT I DON'T WANT IS A BEAUTIFUL MUSEUM AND A NONFUNCTIONING PARKING LOT BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO SAVE DOLLARS HERE AND THERE. I RATHER DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME AND THEN NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT. 
          THAT IS ALL I AM ASKING. I AM TRUSTING YOUR JUDGMENT, YOU ARE OUR ENGINEER THAT THIS IS WHAT IT IS GOING TO BE. I AM NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY CAMPER IF WE COME BACK IN HERE AND SOMETHING 
          IS WRONG WITH THIS PARKING LOT. >> LET ME CLARIFY. I DID NOT 
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CHANGE THE PLAN FROM THE CIVIL DESIGNER. THE CIVIL DESIGNER DESIGNED THE PARKING LOT. THE ONLY THING THAT I HAD THEM DO IS NOT REMOVE MATERIAL NOT NECESSARY OFF OF THE SITE TO BRING IN NEW MATERIAL. THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE OUT THERE, RIGHT, IT IS THE DRAINAGE. SO, THE DRAINAGE WAS THE CIVIL DESIGNER, HE CAME UP WITH THIS PLAN. I SIMPLY ASKED THEM TO REBID IT BASED OFF OF THE MATERIALS NOT THE ISSUE. THE ELEVATION IS. 
          >> SO YOU ARE SAYING THE CIVIL DESIGNER SIGNED OFF ON IT 
          >> THEY ARE THE ONES THAT CAME UP WITH THE PLAN, YES. WE JUST ASKED FOR A REBID BASED OFF OF THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE MATERIAL ITSELF, UNDER THE PARKING LOT IS NOT BAD TO SUPPORT ASPHALT. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> I THINK, THE PITCH, THE PITCH REQUIRED FOR THIS, IT IS A QUARTER OF AN INCH A FOOT. IF THE PARKING LOT IS 75 FEET WIDE, DO THE CALCULATION THAT IS THE GRADE. THE PARKING LOT IS FUNCTIONAL JUST HAVING A PITCH TO IT, CALL SAID POSITIVE PITCH TO DRAIN. DRAIN TO THE SOUTHEAST CORNER AND END THE PROBLEM. THEN IT IS DUMPING RIGHT INTO THE RAINWATER COLLECTIONCO SYSTEM. T AS IF WE ARE PUTTING IN FRENCH DRAINS OR A NONSENSE LIKE THIS. HOOKING INTO THE SYSTEM THAT 
          TAKES THE WATER AWAY. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, I GET IT. FOR YEARS AND YEARS HAVING ENGINEER HERE AND ENGINEER HERE AND CONSTRUCTION GUYS THERE, ENGINEER RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. I AM JUST TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT. I AM HEARING EVERYTHING. I HAVE NOT GONE OUT THERE. IF YOU PUT ME ON THE SPOT RIGHT NOW AND SAID, PARKING LOT WITH A PITCH I AM LOOKING AT YOU, LIKE, OKAY. 
          WHEN YOU SAY PITCH I AM THINKING BATTER AND BASEBALL I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU. IF I DON'T UNDERSTAND, I KNOW, IF I DON'T UNDERSTAND AND I AM TRYING TO GET THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE SAYING. ALL I AM SAYING IS, IF WE CAN SAVE MONEY, SAVE MONEY. I HAVE NO PROBLEM SAVING MONEY, WE NEED TO SAVE ALL OF THE MONEY WITH CAN TO PUT BACK INTO OUR GENERAL BUDGET. I GET IT. HOWEVER, WHAT I DON'T WANT AND USUALLY SEE, WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND THEN SIX MONTHS, SEVEN MONTHS, EIGHT MONTHS IT IS BACK IN FRONT OF ME SAYING WE NEED TO DO THE PARKING LOT OVER. THAT IS WHAT I AM TRYING TO AVOID. 
          >> COMMISSIONER GAINES, I AGREE WITH YOU. I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN. NICE PITCH, NO WATER PROBLEMS. 
          >> THAT IS ALL I AM ASKING. >> I THINK BASED ON WHAT I AM HEARING AND READ THAT IS WHAT WE ARE GETTING AND WHAT I OBSERVED ON SITE. THE SOLUTION IS WHAT IS NECESSARY. THE ENGINEER IS SUGGESTING THAT IT IS FINE, I AM ON BOARD WITH THAT. WE ARE 
          SAVING A BUNCH OF MONEY. >> I AM WITH YOU. I AM ON THE 
          RECORD SAYING WHAT I AM SAYING >> WE RELY ON CONSULTANTS FOR 
          THEM. >> I AM NOT PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT. I AM NOT. I KNOW LOW THIS PROCESS WORKS AND I KNOW WHAT YOU DID. THERE IS MY CHANCE TO TALK TO YOU ONE-ON-ONE. 
          >> SURE. >> IN FRONT OF EVERYONE AND THE COMMISSIONERS IF THIS IS WHERE WE ARE GOING, ALL I AM SAYING, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE GOING LET'S BE RIGHT THE FIRST TIME BECAUSE WE HAVE A HABIT OF BEING RIGHT IN QUOTES AND THEN COMING BACK ASKING FOR MONEY DOWN THE ROAD. I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. 
          >> COMMISSIONER, THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER BACKSTOP HERE. DURING THE PROCESS THEY ARE PULLING A PERMIT TO DO THIS PARKING RESURFACE, WHEN IT IS IMPACTED IT REQUIRES AN INSPECTION, 
          CORRECT? >> TYPICALLY WE DO IT AT THE 
          END. >> I CAN COORDINATE TO MAKE 
          SURE. >> I AM GOING TO SAY HOW ABOUT IF ENGINEER ASKS FOR A COURTESY INSPECTION WHEN THAT IS DONE PRIOR TO THE BLACK TOP GOING DOWN? 
          >> I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR YOU DIRECTOR? 
          >> YES >> ABSOLUTELY. ANOTHER ASSURANCE FROM ANOTHER EXPERT AND WE CAN GIVE EVERYBODY PEACE OF MIND WE 
          ARE GETTING THE QUALITY PRODUCT >> THANK YOU, I AM DONE. 
          >> I WANT TO CHIME IN ON THIS. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY AT ALL? WE TALKED ABOUT THIS PARKING LOT MORE THAN THE JCP 
          PARKING LOT >> TIRED OF TALKING ABOUT IT. 
          >> BUILDING A PARKING GARAGE. >> YEAH, RIGHT. 
          >> I AM IN CONSENSUS WITH THE WINDOWS AND THE PARKING LOT, 
          LET'S JUST GET IT DONE. >> GET IT DONE. 
          >> YES. >> I WILL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE WINDOW CHANGE ORDER I THINK WE ARE ALL ON THE 
          SAME PAGE? >> WE WILL TAKE THEM ONE AT A 
          TIME. THAT WOULD BE E. >> MAKE A MOTION TO DENY ITEM 
          11-E. >> A SECOND 
          >> AND WE ARE GOING TO DO IT ONE AT A TIME. 
          >> I WILL SECOND THAT. >> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE 
          BEING CALLED ] >> THEN, COMMISSIONER BRODERICK YOU WANT TO THE DO THE REST? WE CAN DO D, E AND G. 
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          >> D, F, G. >> IS THERE A SECOND? CALL THE 
          [I.  Approval of a public service agency grant award to E.N.D. It, Corporation in the amount not to exceed $5000.00.]
ROLL, PLEASE. 
          NEXT. >> THANK YOU ARE STAFF FOR YOUR 
          HARD WORK ON THIS, THANK YOU. >> APPROVAL OF THE PUBLIC SERVICE AGENCY GRANT AWARDED TO END IT CORPORATION IN AN AMOUNT 
          NOT TO EXCEED $5,000. >> ALL RIGHTY. 
          >>. >> I THIS ITEM PULLED. I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF. I AM PULLING THIS ITEM SIMPLY BECAUSE I. THIS IS A COMMUNITY-WIDE GRANT, IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TAKE CBG MONEYS, WE WOULD HAVE MANY OF OUR NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WERE DOING DIFFERENT CAMPS OR THINGS FOR YOUTH IN THE SUMMER. AND, IT WAS A RANK COMPETITIVE PROCESS. I WAS DISHEARTENED AND DISAPPOINTED WE ONLY HAD ONE TO COME OUT OF THE PROCESS. WE HAD FEW SUBMISSIONING ON THIS PROCESS. I EXPRESSED MY CONCERN DURING OUR WEEKLY MEETING. HE WAS TO FOLLOW UP WITH STAFF. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT GOT BY US. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT I ALWAYS MADE SURE I SHARED WITH THE COMMUNITY. ESPECIALLY THE NONPROFITS OUT THERE DOING THE SUMMER CAMPS WITH OUR YOUTH TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT. AND WHY IT WAS NOT WIDELY PUBLICIZED. I AM SURE IT GOT BY YOU AS WELL, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. WE DID NOT SHARE THIS LIKE WE WIDELY SHARED THIS BEFORE IN THE PAST. I AM CONCERNED WITH THAT. 
          >> I WILL SPEAK TO THAT. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> WE ADVERTISED THIS IN DECEMBER. 
          >> CLOSER TO THE MIC, PLEASE. >> ZENELLA CLARK, THE GRANT'S MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. THE ADVERTISEMENT WENT OUT IN DECEMBER 2024, RAN FOR 30-DAYS TO ENCOURAGE OUR PUBLIC SERVICE AGENCY PARTNERS TO APPLY. WE GOT 24 SUBMISSIONS. OR 24 PEOPLE STARTED THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND ONLY TWO COMPLETELY SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATION. SO, THERE WERE 22 APPLICANTS THAT DID NOT COMPLETE THEIR APPLICATIONS. 
          >> WE ADVERTISED IT. >> STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE 
          RECORD PLEASE >> KIMBERLY HANSEN, GRANT SPECIALIST. WE DID ADVERTISE IT. POST TODAY ON SOCIAL MEDIA, ON OUR WEBSITE. I ANNOUNCED IT BECAUSE I SIT ON A COUPLE COUNCILS. WE ANNOUNCED IT AT THE ROUND TABLE AND WE EXTENDED THE OPENING OF THE APPLICATION AND ENCOURAGED PEOPLE WHO DID APPLY. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THE NEW APPLICATION, BECAUSE WE WENT ONLINE PLATFORM THIS TIME IF THAT INTIMIDATED THE APPLICANTS. 
          I REACHED OUT, PHONE CALL, EMAIL TO SEVERAL SOCIAL SERVICES AGENCIES TO COMPLETE THEIR APPLICATIONS AND WE JUST DID NOT GET THE SUBMISSIONS. WHAT WE DID WITH THE FUNDING THAT WAS NOT ALLOCATED TO OTHER PSA'S WE PROVIDED OUR OWN. DOING A SUMMER CAMP AND WE FUNDED THAT. WE DID FUND SUMMER YOUTH ACTIVITIES 
          WITH THE FUNDING. >> MADAM MAYOR? 
          >> WE WENT TO AN ONLINE APPLICATION PROCESS, CAN WE DETERMINE WHAT PART WAS IN THE MAJORITY AT BEST YOU CAN HELP A NOT TO COMPLETE IT? SUBMISSION OF BANK INFORMATION? WAS IT, WHAT WAS IT THAT MOST PEOPLE JUST DID NOT DO IF, BECAUSE YOU SAID SOME ATTEMPTED. THERE HAS TO BE AN UNDERSTANDING WHAT STOPPED THEM FROM DOING THERE. IN THE PAST WE HAD GREAT 
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PARTICIPATION WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN AND PAPER FORM AND STACKS OF BINDERS. THEY SUBMITTED IT THEN AND DID NOT DO IT NOW. CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED HERE TO 
          THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY? >> I AM NOT REALLY SURE. MORE REQUIREMENTS BY CBDG AND HUD, WE INCLUDED THAT. YOUR ORGANIZATION HAS TO MEET THIS OBJECTIVE, SERVE LOW INCOME, YOU HAVE TO SAY YOU ARE GOING TO RETAIN A JOB, YOU HAVE TO SAY HOW MANY PEOPLE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE STAFF OF LESS THAN FIVE PEOPLE, I AM NOT SURE IF THAT, WITH THE OBJECTIVES THAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE APPLICATION FOR THE APPROVAL PROCESS, IF THAT, YOU KNOW, DETOURED PEOPLE. I REACHED OUT TO BOY'S AND GIRL'S CLUB THEY DECIDED NOT TO APPLY. 
          >> AND THAT WAS MY TRIGGER. THEY APPLIED EVERY YEAR. 
          >> YEAH. >> AND IT WAS ALWAYS AN ISSUE HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD FUND THEM. THEY ALWAYS HAD A 
          COMPLETE APPLICATION. >> RIGHT. 
          >> NOW YOU ARE TELLING ME THE CRITERIA WAS THE SAME THEN, LAST YEAR, TWO YEARS AGO WHEREVER IT WAS, IT WAS THE SAME PROCESS, THEY STILL HAD TO SUBMIT THE SAME AMOUNT OF INFORMATION DOING A PAPER APPLICATION, SO, YOU ARE TELLING ME THEY DID NOT COMPLETE THE ONLINE INFORMATION ASKING FOR THE SAME INFORMATION? 
          >> YES AND THEN IN PRIOR APPLICATION YEARS IT WAS KIND OF LOT MORE HAND HOLDING, CALLING YOU, CAN YOU SUBMIT YOUR APPLICATION, CAN WE GET THIS AND GET THAT. AND WITH ALL OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE OPENED, WE OPENED DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, REHAB, OPENED THEM AT THE SAME TIME. WITH THE GENTLE NUDGE OF AN EMAIL AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, SORRY -- CALLING THEM, REQUESTING THIS TO BRING IN DOCUMENTS AND TELLING THEM WE NEED THIS. WE RELIED ON THEM TO BE MORE SUFFICIENT AND SUBMITTING THE DOCUMENTS REQUIRED FOR THE APPLICATION. 
          >> WHILE I CAN APPRECIATE THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE PIVOT BEING ABLE TO SUPPORT SERVICES, RIGHT. I AM STILL CHALLENGED BY THIS, RIGHT? I AM CHALLENGES BECAUSE IN THE PAST THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS KIND OF LOOKED FORWARD TO. THEY WERE ASKING FOR IT. AND, SOMEHOW WE DID NOT KIND OF HAVE THE SPLASH WE HAVE HAD IN THE PAST WHEN THIS WAS PUT OUT FOR ORGANIZATIONS TO APPLY. I AM DISAPPOINTED TO HEAR THAT 20, 22, 24 DID NOT FINISH THEIR APPLICATIONS. THAT TROUBLES ME. 
          EVEN WITH THE AMOUNT OF HAND HOLDING AND ALL OF THAT. IT IS A CONCERN I AM HIGHLIGHTING HERE. I WANT THE PUBLIC TO HEAR MY CONCERN AND DISAPPOINTMENT THAT THE APPLICATIONS WERE NOT COMPLETED. I AM TROUBLED TO THE FACT THAT, AGAIN, IN MY OPINION, JUST ONE COMMISSIONER'S OPINION, ON THIS PROCESS, NOT ON THE RECIPIENT END, NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT, MY CONCERN IS THE PROCESS. WHAT I KNOW WE DID IN THE PAST, SERVED ON THIS COMMITTEE, ONE OF THE FIRST COMMITTEES I GOT ON. I REMEMBER GOING THROUGH THE APPLICATIONS AND HAVING GREAT PRIDE AND UNDERSTANDING IN WHAT PEOPLE WERE DOING AND TRYING TO AWARD THEM FAIRLY FOR SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THEY WERE DOING IN THE COMMUNITY AND GOING ON RIGHT NOW. FURTHER TROUBLES ME THAT EVEN THE BOY'S AND GIRL'S CLUBS DID NOT WANT TO APPLY. 
          >> I DON'T THINK IT WAS ENOUGH MONEY FOR THEM. 
          >> NEVER STOPPED THEM IN THE PAST $5,000 IS $5,000. I UNDERSTAND. I AM DONE ON MY SOAPBOX, WE GOT TO DO BETTER, BETTER COMMUNITY. BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS WAS SOMETHING I ALWAYS SHARED ON MY FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO BE ON THE LOOKOUT. ENCOURAGED AND ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT BUT I AM GLAD THE MONEY DID NOT GO TO WASTE, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          >> AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE E. N. D. PROGRAM, I AM GLAD THEY DID AND THEY ARE GOING TO USE IT. YEP. COMMISSIONER 
          GAINES? >> THANK YOU, GUYS, FOR WHAT YOU DO. I AM DISAPPOINTED, ALSO, THAT THE 22 DON'T KNOW WHY THAT THE 22 DID NOT COMPLETE THE APPLICATION. HOWEVER, ONE THING I AM SITTING HERE THINKING ABOUT IT, WE ARE GOING TO DO IT AGAIN IN OCTOBER? DOING IT AGAIN OR WAS THAT IT? 
          >> IT WILL BE IT FOR RIGHT NOW. >> CAN'T HEAR YOU 
          >> GOING TO BE IT FOR RIGHT NOW ACCORDING TO THE RULES AND POLICIES. DOING THE SMALL BUSINESS AND THOSE GRANTS ARE UNSUBSTAINABLE. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE PART OF THE TRACK BETWEEN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND THEY ARE ASSISTING FOLKS, 
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          80% BELOW L.M.I. >> THE ONLY THING THAT I WAS GOING TO SAY WAS, WHEN WE PUT OUT OUR GRANDS AND STUFF FOR THE PUBLIC, AND I KNOW HOW HARD YOU GUYS WORK YOU JUST GOT DONE SAYING LAST YEAR, TO ANSWER COMMISSIONER JOHNSON'S QUESTION IT WAS HAND HOLDING AND THANK YOU FOR GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND TO GET SOMEBODY A GRANT. JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE. WHEN WE PUT THIS STUFF OUT AND INSTEAD OF DOING IT THE HAND HOLDING ON THE BACK END, CAN WE TRY TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF COME, LET ME SHOW YOU HOW TO DO THIS ON THE FRONT END? ESPECIALLY IF IT IS ONLINE? IF WE DO IT AGAIN. COME THIS DAY, DO IT THIS WAY, WE WILL SHOW YOU HOW TO DO IT. PUT IT UP AND SHOW THEM AND GO FROM THERE. 
          AT THAT POINT YOU SHOWED THEM WHAT TO DO. GOING BACK TO THE COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, IF THEY DON'T DO IT THAT TIME I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO. THROWING IT OUT THERE. IF YOU DO THAT, THAT IS GREAT. IF YOU DID THAT, THAT IS GREAT. LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW AGAIN, AGAIN, COMMUNITY IF WE PUT IT OUT HERE AND THEN WE SHOW YOU HOW TO DO IT AND WANT TO TRAIN YOU HOW TO DO IT AND YOU DON'T SHOW UP, YOU CAN'T GET MAD AT THE FIVE OF US UP HERE SAYING WE DON'T WANT TO HELP YOU. YOU GOT TO MEET US SOMEWHERE HALFWAY SOMEWHERE TO TRY TO GET THIS MONEY WE ARE TRYING TO GIVE TO YOU, AGAIN, THANK YOU. 
          >> ANYBODY ELSE? A MOTION TO MAKE? 
          >> WITH THAT I MOVE APPROVAL OF AGENDA. 
          [L.  Approval of increase of Purchase Order No.250521, Complete Production Resources from $50,000 to $100,000 for monthly lighting equipment rental at the Sunrise Theatre.]
          [M.  Approval of Increase of Purchase Order No.250544, Jack Hammer Audio from $50,000 to $80,000 for monthly sound equipment rental at the Sunrise Theatre.]
          >> PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL. 
          >> NEXT, ITEMS L. AND M. COMPLETE REDUCTION RESOURCES FOR LIGHTING EQUIPMENT AND ALSO INCREASE OF PURCHASE ORDER FOR 
          SOUND EQUIPMENT AT THE THEATER. >> I KNOW WE HAVE DISCUSS TODAY IN OUR SENIOR STAFF MEETINGS. I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND. WE ARE DOUBLING THIS EXPENDITURE FROM 50 TO 100 OR 50 TO 80. SO, CAN WE JUST RUN THROUGH WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE? 
          >> SURE. I AM THE ACTING DIRECTOR OF THE SUNRISE THEATER. 
          SO, THE RENTAL EQUIPMENT FOR THE LIGHTING IS MORE OF A MODERN LIGHTING SYSTEM THAN WE HAVE HAD BEFORE. THE LIGHTS THAT MOVE ON THEIR OWN. AND THE LIGHTING BOARD THAT IS INCLUDED ALLOWS US TO OPERATE, YOU KNOW, ABOUT 100 LIGHTS AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT. SO, THAT IS WHAT THE RENTAL IS FOR, EVERY SHOW REQUIRES A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF LIGHTING. IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF SHOW. AND THEN FOR THE SOUND EQUIPMENT. SIMILAR THING. THE RENTAL WILL BE FOR THE SPEAKERS AND THE SUBS ON EITHER SIDE OF OUR STAGE, AT THE FOOT OF OUR STAGE AND AS WELL AS OUR SOUND BOARD WHICH IS 
          TO OPERATE ALL OF THOSE THINGS. >> THE EXPENDITURES GOING UP? 
          >> IT WAS AN EMERGENCY SITUATION TO START RENTING THIS IN DECEMBER. AND IT WAS ADVISED TO ME TO DO IT THIS WAY ON A MONTH TO MONTH BASIS BECAUSE OF THE UNCERTAINTY OF WHERE THE THEATER WAS KNOWING. SO, AT THIS POINT WE HAVE TO EXTEND IT BEFORE WE HAVE MORE ANSWERS TO CONTINUE ON WITH OUR EVENTS. 
          >> I THINK IT WAS A DISCUSSION. I SAW IT IN THE NOTES RELATIVE TO AN OPTION TO PURCHASE THIS EQUIPMENT, IS THAT INFORMATION STILL BEING INVESTIGATED? THAT BEING A POSSIBILITY WITH THE COMPANIES SUPPLYING IT TO US THROUGH A LEASE? 
          >> YEAH. PERSONALLY IF I -- I WOULD LOVE TO LOOK TO A LEASE TO OPEN OPTION. AT LEAST WITH OUR, JACKHAMMER AUDIO WHO IS SUPPLYING THE SOUND EQUIPMENT, THEY OFFERED TO EVEN PUT THE MONEY THAT WE PUT TOWARDS IT TOWARDS THE LEASE TO OWN. THAT IS THINGS TO LOOK INTO BUT THEY ARE BOTH SIZEABLE PURCHASES, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A TOTAL OF BOTH SETS OF EQUIPMENT, $150,000 TO $200,000 EACH. SOMETHING WE LOOKED INTO IT AND THERE IS ALSO 
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THE QUESTION OF THE EQUIPMENT GETTING OUTDATED. YES. 
          >> THAT ANSWERS ALL OF MY QUESTIONS. 
          >> IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO TO 
          HAVE THE THEATER OPERATE. >> I WAS PLANNING PULL THIS AS WELL. THANK YOU FOR PULLING IT. JUST MAKING SURE WE WERE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT ADJUSTING THE LEASES FOR THIS STOPGAP BETWEEN WHEN WE GET THE THIRD PARTY OPERATOR IN THERE AND OPERATING AND HOPEFULLY LETTING THEM DECIDE WHAT IS BEST. LEASE 
          OR PURCHASE. >> OKAY. 
          >> IT WAS A GOOD SOLUTION. >> DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. 
          >> MAYOR I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS L. 
          AND M. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE, THANK YOU.. 
          [A.  Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 25-018 Amending Chapter 103, Article III "Contractors". SECOND READING]
          >> OKAY. I THINK WE CAPTURED ALL OF OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS WE WILL MOVE ON TO A PUBLIC ORDINANCE. CHAPTER 103, BUILDINGS AND BUILDING REGULATIONS, ARTICLE 3 CONTRACTORS BY AMENDING SECTION 183 HAD EVER 6 AND MODIFYING DEFINITIONS, AND AMENDING IT BY CORRECTING REFERENCE TO STATUE CHAPTER 489. REDUCING THE NUMBER OF BOARD OF EXAMINERS, CONTRACTORS, MEMBERS, PROVIDING FOR OFFICERS, DELETING THE REQUIREMENT OF REQUIRED MEETINGS AND RESTATING THE BOARD'S A POWER TO ADOPT BYLAWS AND RULES. PROVIDING FOR APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS AND AMENDING ONE-385, AND FEES AND APPLY FOR AN APPEAL FEE. AMENDING SECTION 136 TO REFERENCE STATE CERTIFIED CONTRACTORS AND AMENDING SECTION 133-141 AND STATE CERTIFIED CONTRACTORS AND ELIMINATING AUTOMATIC STAYS ON APPEAL. 
          AMENDING SECTION 183, 142, LOCAL CONTRACTOR MAY BE REPRIMANDED OR THEIR COMPETENCY CARD MAY BE SUSPENDED OR REVOKED AND AMENDING SECTION 143, BY MODIFYING PRO BIGSES LICENSED CONTRACTORS AND PROVIDING CIVIL PENALTIES FOR AN AMOUNT ADOPTED BY RESOLUTION, A MANDING 133-144, PREEMPTING THE MEASURES TO THE STATE AND ORDINANCES OF PARTS AND ORDINANCES IN PART AND HERE WITH. AND PROVIDING A CLAUSE AND EFFECTIVE DATE. THERE 
          IS THE SECOND READING. >> SECOND READING, DO YOU HAVE 
          ANYTHING TO ADD MR. THOMAS? >> YES, YES, MA'AM. 
          >> BUOYANTS A AND BE ARE SECOND READINGS -- POINTS A, AND B ARE SECOND READINGS AND THEN UNDER 13, B AND C ARE FOR THE SAME THING. JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY. THESE ARE CONNECTED. SO, THE ORDINANCE IS WHAT WE ARE, THE SECOND READING ON THE ORDINANCE, ONCE THE SECOND READING HAPPENS ON THE ORDINANCE THEN THE RULES CAN CHANGE. SO, BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT IS HAPPENING UNDER 13B. AND C. IS THE RULES PART FOR THE BOARD AND THEN THE FEE SCHEDULE IS THE FEE SCHEDULE WHERE THE ORDINANCE CHANGED BUT NOW WE ADOPT THE FEE SCHEDULE. JUST TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, THEY ARE CONNECTED. THEY ARE ALL THE SAME BUT JUST WANT TO . 
          >> NOT IDENTICAL BUT WE NEED TO DO ALL FOUR OF THEM. 
          >> IN ORDER. >> YES. THE ORDINANCE CHANGES AND THEN THE RULES CHANGE. I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN THAT. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS THE SECOND READING, ANY WISH TO COMMENT ON 12 A., SEEING NO MOVE; I WILL COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 
          >> MOTION TO APPROVE 12 A. >> SECOND. 
          >> A MOTION AND A SECOND, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. 
          [B.  Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 25-019 Amending Chapter 103, Article II "Building Code," Division 2 of the Code of Ordinances Entitled "Building Fees." SECOND READING]
          CALLED ] >>> NEXT ORDINANCE 25-09, AMENDING CHAPTER 103, BUILDING CODE, DIVISION CODE OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, ENTITLED BUILDING FEES, PROVIDING FOR PERMIT FEES AND PLAN REVIEW FEES PROVIDING A ACCEPTABILITY CLAUSE AND 
          PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> THIS IS THE SECOND READING, ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE WITH THE COMMISSION PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NO MOVEMENT, I WILL CLOSE THE 
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PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 
          >> MOTION TO APPROVE >> SECOND. 
          >> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. 
          [C.  Quasi-Judicial Hearing - an application for Conditional Use with New Construction Site Plan submitted by property owner, St. Lucie Kings, LLC and Representative HJA Design Studio, to construct a flex space for wholesale trade and warehouse freight on 3.57 acres at 4600 & 4650 Okeechobee Rd., Fort Pierce, FL.  The properties are zoned General Commercial (C-3). Parcel IDs: 2419-122-0001-050-9 and 2419-122-0001-040-6.]
QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING - AN APPLICATION FOR CONDITIONAL USE WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION SITE PLAN SUBMITTED BY PROPERTY OWNER, ST. 
          LUCIE KINGS, LLC AND REPRESENTATIVE HJA DESIGN STUDIO, TO CONSTRUCT A FLEX SPACE FOR WHOLESALE TRADE AND WAREHOUSE FREIGHT ON 3.57 ACRES AT 4600 & 4650 OKEECHOBEE RD., FORT PIERCE, FL.  THE PROPERTIES ARE ZONED GENERAL COMMERCIAL 
          C-3. >> MADAM ATTORNEY CAN YOU READ 
          OUR PROCEEDINGS, PLEASE. >> YES, MA'AM. 
          >> THE CITY COMMISSION IS A LEGISLATIVE AND QUASI-JUDICIAL ROLL. WHEN ACTING AS A QUASI-JUDICIAL BODY IT IS LELD TO REQUIREMENTS. QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS ARE MORE FORMAL THAN THE COMMISSION MEETING, THEY HAVE TO HAVE STANDARDS OF DUE PROCESS AND DECISIONS NEED TO BE MADE ON COMPETENCE EVIDENCE. 
          COMMISSIONERS HAVE DUTY TO CONDUCT QUASI-JUDICIAL, MORE LIKE JUDGES, THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE THE PROCEDURES THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED. NO ONE SHOULD APPROACH ANY OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSIONERS THE CITY CLERK OR ATTORNEY DURING THE HEARING. IF THERE ARE EXHIBITS TO BE ENTERED AS EVIDENCE, PROVIDE THEM TO THE SERGEANT OF ARMS, ANY OF THE POLICE OFFICERS IN HERE. 
          >> CALLING FOR THEM TO ORDER. AND I WILL ASK COMMISSIONING 
          ABOUT COMMUNICATIONS. >> COMMISSIONERS? 
          >> WILL YOU SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES. 
          >> ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR AND AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> PROCEED. >>> ALL RIGHT, GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSIONERS. THIS EVENING WE 
          BRING BEFORE YOU . >> EXCUSE ME. CAN YOU INTRODUCE 
          YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD. >> NO WORRIES. 
          >> KERRY DRIVERS >> THANK YOU, MRS. COX FOR HELPING ME REMEMBER THAT. THANK YOU, MA'AM 
          >> BEFORE YOU, WE HAVE A FLEX SPACE, COMMISSIONAL USE WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION WHERE THE APPLICANT IS HJA DESIGN STUDIO, PROPERTY OWNERS IS ST. LUCIE KINGS, LLC. PARSAL IS COMMERCIAL (C-3). PARCEL IDS: 2419-122-0001-050-9 AND 2419-122-0001-040-6. OKEECHOBEE READ. A APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED. OKEECHOBEE ROAD FLEX SPACE PROPOSES TO DEVELOP FLEX SPACE FOR WHOLESALE TRADE AND FREIGHT ON THE LAND, THE PROPERTY IS IN A C-3 DISTRICT AND HAS FUTURE LAND USE OF CG GENERAL LAND COMMERCIAL. PURPOSES, COMMISSIONER USE ACCORDING TO THE FORT PIERCE MUNICIPAL CODE, IT IS TO ALLOW DESIRABLE USES NOT APPROPRIATE GENERALLY OR WITHOUT RESTRICTION THROUGHOUT THE PARTICULAR ZONING DISTRICT BUT WHICH, IF CONTROLLED TO MEMBER, AREA, LOCATION OR RELATIONSHIP TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD NOT EFFECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY, APPEARANCE AND CONVENIENCE AND GENERAL WELFARE. HERE IS A MAP OF THE CITY LIMITS IN THE PARCEL OUT LINE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. 
          SITE LOCATION, PARCEL A, 2.9 ACRES, PERCENTEL B., 1.31 ACRES, SITE AREA IS 3.57 ACRES GIVE OR TAKE. FUTURE LAND USE IS CG GENERAL COMMERCIAL. HIGHLIGHTS THE SURROUNDING FUTURE LAND USES. ZONING IS C-3, GENERAL COMMERCIAL. THE SITE AREA, THE 
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SITE AREA IS OVER 150,000 SQUARE FEET. WITH OVER 30% OF IT BEING OPEN SPACE TO INCLUDE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS AND DRY RETENTION AREAS. 
          THERE ARE TWO PRIMARY BUILDINGS ON THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. 
          BUILDING A., SINGLE STORY, LITTLE UNDER 22,000 SQUARE FEET. 
          PROPOSED USE IS OFFICE AND WAREHOUSE. BUILDING B., SINGLE STORY, ON THE 15,000 SQUARE FEET, PROPOSED USES, OFFICE AND WAREHOUSE. THE SITE PLAN REQUIRES 85 PARKING SPACES HOWEVER 91 PARKING SPACES WILL BE PROVIDED. AND, IN THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT MAX HEIGHT OF 60. PLUS THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING TWO SINGLE STORY BUILDINGS WITH A MAX HEIGHT OF 30. THE LANDSCAPE PLANS WILL BE NOTED. THERE WILL BE A 6 FOOT HIGH PRIVACY WHITE FENCE ON THE EAST PART OF THE PROPERTY. 100 -- WHEN TREES ARE REQUIRED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 120 TREES NOT INCLUDING THE 117SHRUBS PLANTED ON THE PROPERTY. HERE AT ELEVATION DRAWINGS OF THE BUILDING. WHEN WE ADD COLOR RENDERINGS. REALTIME ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT THE PROPOSED BUILDING RECOMMENDATIONS WITH CONDITIONS. AT THE JUNE MEETING THE BOARD APPROVED THE USE WITH THE NEW CONSTRUCTION SITE PLAN WITH SEVEN CONDITIONS AND ADDED TWO MORE CONDITIONS THE FIRST SEVEN CONDITIONS THAT WERE ADDED WERE UNITY, NUMBER ONE, UNITY OF TITLE WITH THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY, IT IS REQUIRED PRIOR TO SUBMITTING FOR PERMITS, NUMBER 2, A GENERAL ADDRESS REQUEST SHALL BE SUBMITTED FOLLOWING THE COMPLETION OF LOT COMBINATIONS AND LAND CLEARING AND DEVELOPMENT PERMITS. NUMBER 3, PRIOR ARE TO THE ISSUANCE OF THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, LANDSCAPE AGREEMENT SHALL BE APPROVED AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE FOLLOWING. NUMBER 4, ENVIRONMENT REPORT, EXCUSE ME, ENVIRONMENTAL REPORT FOR EARTHMOVING ACTIVITIES, PRIOR TO APPROVAL DOCUMENTATION THAT EXSTS IS NOT NEEDED. AND NUMBER 6, APPLICANT SHALL DONATE PROPERTY TO THE DEPARTMENT IF RIGHT-OF-WAY IS REQUIRED TO IMPLEMENT THE IMPROVEMENTS. NUMBER 7, DRAIN REQUIRING FOR STORM IMPACTS WITH F-DOT RIGHT-OF-WAY THE TWO FOR PLANNING BOARD IS 8 AND 9, INVESTIGATE AND INSTALL A PRIVATE FENCE BUFFER ON THE NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY AND NUMBER 9, SHOULD PROVIDE A DIFFERENT COLOR PALETTE FOR THE BUILDINGS. STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE CONDITION OF USE WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION SITE PLAN APPLICATION WITH THE 9 CONDITIONS. ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION WITH BE TO APPROVE WITH MODIFIED OR RECOMMEND THIS APPROVAL. THANK YOU. 
          >> QUESTIONS FROM STAFF? >> I HAVE A COUPLE. 
          >> THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION, WHAT IS DRIVING THE 
          CONDITIONAL USE REQUIREMENT? >> YES, SIR. IT WAS ORIGINALLY FOR WHOLE SALE TRADE WHEN THEY DID A FLEX SPACE TO OPEN IT UP TO WAREHOUSE THAT IS WHAT TRIGGERED THE CONDITIONAL USE. 
          >> MY SECOND QUESTION IS REGARDING THE USE PROVISIONS. 
          WHAT THEY RECEIVE APPROVAL IN A PARTICULAR ZONING CLASSIFICATION. USE PROVISIONS ARE SUBJECT FOR THE CLASS IS 
          THAT CORRECT? >> THAT IS CORRECT. 
          >> SO, THEY ARE C-3, I BELIEVE IT WAS? 
          >> YES, SIR. >> I GET THAT, ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT COMES BACK TO US FOR APPROVAL? 
          >> NOT NECESSARILY. IF IT IS CONDITIONAL. IT OPENS UP THE APPLICATION, OPENS UP THE DEVELOPER'S TO ACCEPT VARIOUS BUSINESSES THAT WOULD QUALIFY LIKE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, MAYBE A DAYCARE OR A SCHOOL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT WOULD NOT REQUIRE IT BECAUSE THIS WILL APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE 
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          PROPERTY. >> SO IN ALL OF THE C-3, ANYTHING LISTED CONDITIONAL USE WOULD BE APPROVED NOW? 
          >> THAT IS CORRECT. YES, SIR. FINAL QUESTION. PLANNING BOARD PUT IN ITEM 8. MINIMUM PRIVACY BUFFER.. WHAT IS IT OF? 
          >> YES, SIR. AT THE PLANNING BOARD THERE WAS A DISCUSSION, THE ORIGINAL LANDSCAPE PLAN ONLY INCLUDED A FENCE. PLANNING BOARD WANTED SOMETHING MORE PRIVACY TO KIND OF ALIGN WITH THE STORAGE UNIT THAT IS TO THE WEST OF THE PROPERTY. SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID THE APPLICANT WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND INCLUDED SNRED OF HAVING A FENCE THEY DECIDED TO INCLUDE A PRIVACY FENCE WITH MORE EXTENDED BUFFER. 
          >> DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE MATERIALS ARE? 
          >> OF THE . >> OF THE PRIVACY FENCE, PRIVACY BUFFER. IN THE PICTURE IT LOOKS LIKE CONCRETE 
          >> IT WILL NOT BE CONCRETE. IT WILL BE ACTUALLY BE LIKE A 
          PRIVACY VINAL? >> CORRECT. YES, SIR. THERE WERE CONVERSATIONS DISCUSSING MAYBE -- I JUST DREW A BLANK. THERE WERE CONVERSATIONS AS FAR AS WHAT TYPE OF PRIVACY THEY CAN PLACE ON THE PROPERTY. SO I GUESS WITH CONSIDERING COSTS BEING ABLE TO STILL PROVIDE PRIVACY THE BEST WAY THEY WENT IS THE FINAL FENCE INSTEAD OF A CONCRETE WALL. 
          >> BACK AT THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION IN THE C-3 ZONING CLASSIFICATION, IS THERE ANYTHING ABOUT HAVING A TABLE RIGHT IN FRONT OF US, ANYTHING NOXIOUS IN THERE THAT WE SHOULD 
          BE CONCERNED ABOUT? >> OKAY. I DON'T WANT TO OPEN A CAN OF WORMS BUT WE DID TALK, I SPOKE TO THE APPLICANT ABOUT BEING MINDFUL OF STORAGE UNITS. I KNOW IT IS A BIG THING THAT WE WANT TO TRY TO STEER AWAY FROM OR NOT SATURATE THE CITY WITH. I DID SPEAK TO THE APPLICANT ABOUT BEING MINDFUL OF STORAGE UNITS OTHER THAN THAT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT WOULD CAUSE AN 
          ALARM. >> THE REASON I BRING THAT UP, PRIMARY PORTION OF OUR BUSINESS. I KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IN THESE INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WHEN THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION IS WIDE OPEN IT TURNS INTO A TRAIN WRECK. IF IT IS REGULATED BY C-3, I WILL PUT STOCK IN THAT. I AM FAMILIAR WITH C-3. YOU WILL NOT BE PUTTING AN ASPHALT PLANT IN HERE, YOU KNOW WHAT I AM SAYING. I THINK WE WILL BE OKAY ON THAT END. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT COMING FORWARD FOR APPROVAL BY THIS BODY. INSTEAD OF SAYING JUST ANYTHING IS IN THAT, WE ARE GOOD TO GO. I AM NOT A FAN OF THAT. MAYBE WE ADDRESS IT IN THE FUTURE N. THIS IT IS MORE PASSIVE BASED IN THE C-3. NOT HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. THAT IS THE SAVING GRACE I AM TAKING AWAY FROM THAT 
          >> IT IS UNCOMFORTABLE WHEN YOU SAY IT IS A BLANKET CONDITIONAL 
          USE AND YOU DON'T KNOW . >> THAT IS MY POINT. DON'T HAVE THE USE TABLE IN FRONT OF US. ANYTHING MARKED C, IT IS CONDITIONAL USE. WE HAVE KNOWN FROM RECENT DELIBERATIONS IT CAN GET, CONDITION USE IS MAYBE SOMETHING WE DON'T WANT. 
          >> RIGHT. >> AND, AS I . 
          >> WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT. >> BEING IN THIS BUSINESS, FULL ON, I UNDERSTAND HOW THE INDUSTRIAL FLEX. IT IS A GREAT PROJECT TO BRING IN THE CITY. A REAL SHORT FALL FOR THIS PRODUCT. I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL. MY CONCERN IS I DON'T WANT SIX DIESEL MECHANICS MOVING IN AND C-3 
          ALLOWS THAT >> YES, BUT THERE IS A 
          MONITORING OF THAT? >> THAT IS CORRECT. IF THERE IS, AS THE BUSINESSES DECIDE TO OPEN UP OR ACTIVATE WITHIN THIS AREA IT STILL WILL HAVE TO COME THROUGH PLANNING, PERMITTING ASPECT OF IT. BUT AS FAR AS APPROVING THE BUSINESS, IF IT FALLS IN THE CONDITIONAL, THIS APPLICATION IS APPROVING IT FOR 
          CONDITIONAL USE ON THE PROPERTY. >> I AM SAYING I HAVE A GENUINE CONCERN ABOUT THAT. OPENING UP A PANDORA'S BOX. I DON'T MIND GRANTS THE USE OF C-3, THIS TYPE OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. IT IS FLEX SPACE, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. ELECTRICIANS AND AC GUYS, PLUMBERS THAT NEED WAREHOUSE SPACE AND OFFICE SPACE, THAT IS THE TARGET MARKET. WE RUN INTO A PROBLEM IN A SOFTENING REAL ESTATE MARKET THAT WE ARE COMING INTO RIGHT NOW FOR THIS TYPE OF SPACE AND LANDLORDS GET DESPERATE WILL RENT SPACE TO 
          WHATEVER THEY CAN GET IN THERE >> YEAH. 
          >> THERE ARE PARKING OF THIS ALL AROUND THE PLACE. SOME PARKS 
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THAT ARE WELL REGULATED YOU DON'T HAVE IT, OTHER PARTS NOT WELL REGULATED IT LOOKS LIKE A DUMP SITE. THEY HAVE A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT WHAT THEIR INTENDED USE IS. GOING TO CONDO IT, INVESTMENT, DEVELOP IT AND SELL IT? IT ALL TIES INTO THE C-3 CONDITIONAL USE ISSUE. 
          THAT IS WHERE I HAVE MY RESERVATIONS. JUST, CART 
          BLANCHE. >> YES, UNCOMFORTABLE 
          >> THIS BODY IS CHARGED WITH KEEPING CONTROL OF CONDITIONAL USES. THAT IS ONE OF OUR FUNCTIONS, THAT IS WHY IT IS CALLED A CONDITIONAL USE. IT HAS TO BE RUN UP THROUGH THE PLANNING BOARD, PLANNING DEPARTMENT, PLANNING BOARD, TO THE CITY COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL. WE DON'T WANT 
          SOMETHING IN THERE . >> THE WHOLE POINT OF 
          CONDITIONAL USE >> THAT IS IT. I WILL GET OFF MY 
          SOAPBOX. >> MAKE A NOTE OF THAT. 
          >> YES. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? 
          >> MADAM, MAYOR? >> YES. 
          >> I HAVE SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS, I AM TRYING TO FIND THE, THE TABLE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT, THAT MENTIONS THE CONDITIONAL USES THAT WOULD BE APPROVED. DID I MISS IT IN 
          THE PRESENTATION? >> IT WAS NOT IN THERE. 
          >> NO, BUT I CAN PULL IT UP. >> I HAVE BEEN. 
          >> I CAN NEVER FIND IT. >> I HAVE BEEN LOOKING ALL OVER 
          TO TRY TO FIND IT. >> IT WAS NOT IN THE PRESENTATION BUT IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO LOOK. 
          >> YES, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE LIST 
          >> YES. >> OKAY, HERE IS THE C-3 CHART. 
          GOING TO SCROLL SO YOU CAN START TO SEE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT 
          WOULD BE CONDITIONAL. >> SO, WAIT A SECOND. WAS IT 
          GROUP LIVE SOMETHING. >> GROUP LIVING IS ONE. 
          >> WHERE DID YOU FIND THIS? 
          >> OKAY. WANT ME TO DO A QUICK TUTORIAL? 
          >> MADAM MAYOR, IT IS AT 127-87. >> TELL ME WHAT IT MEANS BY 
          GROUP LIVING. >> ESSENTIALLY GROUP LIVING OR HOME LIMITS HOW MUCH, HOW MANY RESIDENTS YOU CAN HAVE IN A 
          PARTICULAR HOME. >> SO THAT IS A CONDITIONAL USE 
          IN C-3? >> THAT IS CORRECT. IDEALLY, I CAN NOT SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT BUT I WOULD NOT THINK THAT A GROUP HOME WOULD BE IN THE FLEX BECAUSE OF THE DESIGN OF IT. 
          >> YES, YES, BUT . >> BUT -- WE ARE GRANTING PERMISSION BY DOING THERE IF WE VOTE FOR THIS. OKAY. GO AHEAD. 
          >> OKAY. >> RESIDENTIAL HOME. 
          >> RIGHT. GROUP. OKAY. YEP. >> SEE THOSE CONDITIONS? 
          >> YES, SIR, I SEE. >> SO, WITH ANY EDUCATIONAL FACILITY REGARDLESS OF THE LOCATION IT WILL BE CONDITIONAL. 
          ALWAYS REQUIRE APPROVAL . >> A WAREHOUSE AND PUTTING IN A 
          FREEZER UNIT. >> I AM JUST READING. 
          >> I CAN NOT, I CAN NOT -- >> A SITE NEEDED. LIGHTS, 
          LOCATION FOR SATELLITES. >> OKAY. ARE YOU SAYING IN MOST OF THE INCIDENTS THAT THE SITE PLAN WOULD ELIMINATE THIS AS A 
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          POSSIBILITY? >> THE SITE PLAN SUBMITTED. THAT WE MIGHT APPROVE TONIGHT IT WILL ELIMINATE SOME OF THESE POSSIBILITIES FOR CONDITIONAL USES? 
          >> NO, MA'AM. >> INCLUDES THEM. 
          >> IF THE SITE PLAN IS APPROVED IT INCLUDES THEM. 
          >> INCLUDES THEM. >> BUT I AM SAYING BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT IT IS LAID OUT. THE TYPE OF SPACE. 
          >> IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE SPACE WOULD IT BE CONDUCIVE TO THE 
          USES? PROBABLY NOT. >> THAT IS MY QUESTION. I MEAN I 
          WANT YOU. >> THAT IS BASED ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF IT. THE GROUP HOME, RESIDENTIAL, IT IS NOT 
          DESIGNED FOR . >> THEY WOULD HAVE TO ALMOST REDO IT AND COME BACK IF THEY WERE GOING TO DO THAT 
          >> YES. WHAT WE HAVE SEEN WITH GROUP HOMES THEY TAKE UP ALREADY EXISTING BUILDING, A HOME THAT HAS BEEN ABANDONED. THERE ARE SOME USES NOT CONDUCIVE TO THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING. 
          >> THANK YOU FOR SHOWING US THIS. MY INTERPRETATION IS THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US AN APPLICATION THAT IS LOOKING TO BUILD A FLEX SPACE. YOU ARE SHOWING US THE USE OF C-3. IT WILL BE PERMITTED THAT MEANS YOU HAVE A PERMIT. A PERMIT TO BRING IN A SERVICE OR C, CONDITIONAL, IT HAS TO COME BACK TO SOME COMMITTEE FOR THAT REVIEW OF WHAT IT IS. AS I LOOK AT THIS RIGHT NOW, SOMEBODY WANTS TO OPEN UP A PAWNSHOP THERE, IT IS A PERMITTED USE AROUND THE C-3. THEY COULD OPEN UP A PAWNSHOP IF, SAY, THE LANDLORD WANTED TO TAKE ON THEM AS A TENANT. 
          >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> SOME OF THE CS, THERE WAS ONE THAT POPPED UP, A CONDITIONAL USE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I HAVE IT. YES, ARCADE. YES, THIS ONE, FLEE MARKETS. SOMEONE WANTED TO OPEN UP A FLEE MARKET THERE AS A CONDITIONAL USE THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE US TO GET A CONDITION? 
          >> NO, NO, NO, WE ARE APPROVING THIS WHOLE BATCH RIGHT NOW. 
          >> OH. >> WHY ARE WE DOING THAT? 
          >> WHY ARE WE NOT PICKING JUST THE WAREHOUSE? 
          >> WELL, THE APPLICATION IN ITSELF IS FOR WAREHOUSE, WHOLESALE TRADE. THAT IS WHAT THE APPLICANT WANTS TO STICK TO FROM MY UNDERSTANDING. HOWEVER, LET'S BE CLEAR THAT WITH THIS APPROVAL AND DEVELOPMENT, THEY HAVE TO DEVELOP THE FLEX SPACE. 
          IF SOMEONE WANTS TO UTILIZE ONE OF THE BAY AREAS FOR A FLEE MARKET, THEN, UNDER THE CONDITION THAT IS APPROVED THROUGH THIS APPLICATION THAT WILL BE ALLOWED. THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE DIAS FOR APPROVAL. THIS APPLICATION APPROVES CONDITIONAL USES ON THIS. 
          >> THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY SUBMIT TODAY. 
          >> CORRECT, THE FLEX SPACE. IT OPENS UP THE CONDITION FOR OTHER 
          POSSIBLE USES. >> SO YOU HAVE THE SITUATION THAT YOU HAVE, X, Y, Z, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USE WITH A DAYCARE 
          NEXT TO IT. >> YES. 
          >> THAT CREATES A PROBLEM FOR ME. THAT IS A TRUE CONFLICT JUST 
          WAITING TO HAPPEN. >> AND YOU GOT POTENTIAL HEAVY TRUCKING COMING IN. YOU KNOW, FOR THESE USES. NOT UNCOMMON THING. IT CREATES CONFLICT. WHERE IS THAT CONFLICT END UP? 
          HERE. >> NOT YET. NOT YET. YOU ARE GOING TO GET YOUR CHANCE. OKAY. YOU ARE GOING TO GET YOUR CHANCE. I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE APPLICANT, AND SHE CAN ADDRESS IT, AWARE OF THE PREVIOUS FLOODING OF FIVE MILE CREEK. IT HAPPENS IN A 100 YEAR STORM. BUT WE HAVE BEEN HAVING 100 YEAR STORMS EVER SO OFTEN LATELY. SO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE, AND YOU TALKED ABOUT THE ELEVATION, ALL OF THAT IS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AND THAT -- 
          >> YES. >> LOOKS LIKE IT IS RIGHT NEXT 
          TO 5 MILE CREEK. >> YES, CLOSE, THAT IS WHY NUMBER 7 SPEAKS ABOUT THE DRAINAGE. THEY WILL HAVE TO RESUBMIT THE DRAINAGE MITIGATION PLAN PRIOR TO IN DEVELOPMENT TO 
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ADDRESS ANY POTENTIAL FLOODING OF THE AREA. 
          >> RIGHT, OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM STAFF? 
          >> I DO HAVE ONE ON THE SAME THEME. 
          >> SURE. WITHOUT THE CONDITIONAL USE AUTHORIZATION OR APPROVAL HERE, THEY CAN STILL BUILD THE PRODUCT IN A C-3 AND LEASE IT TO ALL OF THE USES PERMITTED USES IN C-3? 
          >> THAT IS CORRECT. AT THAT POINT WHAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT IS A SITE PLAN DEVELOPMENT REVIEW. JUST FOR THE SITE PLAN DEVELOPMENT. IT IS CONSIDERED A MAJOR SITE PLAN BECAUSE OF THE-SQUARE-FOOTAGE. YOU STILL WILL REVIEW THE BUILDING IF IT WAS NOT, SAY, JUST PERMITTED USE. WHAT THEY WANTED TO UTILIZE THE DEVELOPMENT FOR, IF IT WAS PERMITTED WHAT WE WOULD BRING BEFORE YOU IS TO REVIEW THE SITE PLAN AND TO APPROVE THE STRUCTURE ITSELF. SO, HERE, WE ARE ASKING FOR APPROVAL NOT ONLY THE STRUCTURE BUT ALSO THE CONDITIONAL USE ALLOWING IT. 
          >> GOT IT. I THINK THE PROJECT IS GREAT. IT IS GORGEOUS, HIGH-END SPACE. I AM NOT CONVINCED THE CONDITIONAL USE IN C-3 SHOULD JUST BE GRANTED. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE CONDITIONAL USE COME BACK BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION. I WOULD LOOK TO, YOU KNOW, I AM TRYING -- YOU KNEW I WAS COMING SOONER OR LATER. 
          BASED ON THE APPLICATION SUBMITTED CAN WE MODIFY THIS TO REQUIRE THE CONDITIONAL USE, USES, TO GO THROUGH THE 
          CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS? >> MADAM, MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, SITE PLANS TO NOT ROUTE THROUGH MY OFFICE. I HAVE NOT DONE A REVIEW OF THIS. HOWEVER, I DON'T RECALL SITTING HERE AT A TIME WHEN WE HAVE GIVEN CONDITIONAL APPROVAL BLANKET FOR ALL USES IN A ZONING CLASSIFICATION. WHAT I RECALL US DOING IS A SPECIFIC CONDITIONAL USE FOR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. 
          LET'S PICK ONE OUT. SELF-SERVICE STORAGE. WE GIVE APPROVAL FOR SELF-SERVICE STORAGE. I DO NOT RECALL A TIME WHERE WE SAID YOU CAN DO ANY AND ALL CONDITIONAL USES NOW WITHIN THIS C-3 ZONING CLASSIFICATION. NOT SURE WHERE MR. FREEMAN IS IF HE IS IN THE BUILDING? IF YOU WANT TO GET MR. FREEMAN DOWN. I DO SHARE IN THE UNCOMFORTABILITY THAT I AM HEARING FROM THE COMMISSION IN THIS ZONING CLASSIFICATION. 
          >> MR. FREEMAN IS NOT IN TODAY. >> OKAY. 
          >> CAN YOU HELP US OUT ON THIS? HAVE WE DONE THIS BEFORE? 
          >> YOU HAVE. THIS PROJECT IN AND ITSELF I TOOK OVER FROM THE PREVIOUS SENIOR PLANNER. WHEN I TOOK OVER THE PROJECT WE DID HAVE A MEETING WITH THE DIRECTOR, THE APPLICANT AND THE FORMER PLANNER. THIS WAS THE ROUTE THAT WAS DECIDED AT THE TIME OF THE APPLICATION TO ENCOMPASS THE FLEXIBLE USE. 
          ACCORDING, AGAIN, WHEN I RECEIVED AND TOOK OVER THIS PROJECT, THE FLEX SPACE APPLICATION WAS ALREADY IN THE PROCESS BECAUSE THIS WAS THE BEST ROUTE THAT WAS APPROVED BY 
          THE DIRECTOR. >> DID THIS AT THE OLD MALL. 
          >> MADAM MAYOR? >> YES. 
          >> ON PAGE NINE OF THE APPLICATION, IT LIST SPECIFIC CONDITIONAL USES THEY ARE REQUESTING. IS THAT WHAT WE ARE GOING BY? THERE IS ONLY, MAYBE 10, 10 OR 12 HERE. 
          >> CAN WE SCAN PAGE 9 INTO THAT? >> I THINKING IT IS REFERRING TO 
          THE APPLICANT? >> IT IS IN THE APPLICATION, 
          PAGE 9 DID YOU SAY? >> YES. 
          >> LIGHT INDUSTRIAL SERVICE, WAREHOUSE AND FREIGHT, ENVIRONMENTAL RESEARCH AND EDUCATION FACILITIES, DAYCARE CENTER, MEDICAL FACILITY, SOCIAL SERVICE INSTITUTION, BUILDING MAINTENANCE FACILITY, MICROBREWERY, MARINE AND 
          STORAGE. >> YES, WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISHES TRYING TO INCORPORATE THE DAYCARE USE CLOSE TO WHERE PEOPLE ARE WORKING. SO, THE DAYCARE USE IS NOT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM. THEY HAVE TO DO IT BY FENCED OFF AREAS, YOU KNOW, YARD AREA AND PLAY AREA T IS HIGHLY REGULATED. 
          >> YES. >> THAT IS THE LOGIC BEHIND INCLUDING THE DAYCARE. DAYCARE EMBEDDED IN INDUSTRIAL SITES IS BECOMING A MORE FREQUENT-TYPE THING. BUT THE REST OF THOSE USES ARE PRETTY MUCH LIGHT INDUSTRIAL FLEX SPACE. 
          >> YES. IF THAT IS THE LIST YOU ARE WORKING OFF I DON'T HAVE 
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          ISSUES. >> THAT IS THE LIST. WE DID SPEAK ABOUT IT. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE APPLICATION AS A WHOLE, THE USE IS WHOLESALE, FREIGHT, THEY LISTED THE CONDITIONAL USES , ESSENTIALLY USE AND IDENTIFIED CONDITIONAL USES. BUT, AGAIN, SPEAKING WITH THE APPLICANT AND SHE IS HERE, THE PROJECT IS FOR THE FLEX SPACE THAT IS TO INCLUDE WHOLE SALE TRADE AND 
          WAREHOUSE FREIGHT. >> THEY DID PUT THE LIST IN HELPFUL TO PROVIDE MORE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, BUT SHE CAN PROVIDE MORE INSIGHT ON THAT. 
          >> COMMISSIONER, I WILL FOLLOW UP, I WANT TO DRIVE A STAKE THROUGH THIS RIGHT NOW AS FAR AS THAT QUESTION IS CONCERNED. IF THE CONDITIONAL APPROVAL IS WHAT IS IN PAGE 9 OF THE APPLICATION OR LOOKING FOR THE TABLE OF C-3 CONDITIONAL USE? 
          >> FROM MY UNDERSTANDING WITH COMMUNICATION WITH THE APPLICANT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR WHOLESALE WAREHOUSE USAGE FOR FLEX SPACE. 
          THERE WAS NO CONVERSATION ABOUT EXTENDING IT TO ANY OF THESE 
          CONDITIONS. >> LET'S GET THE APPLICANT UP 
          HERE. >> YES. ONE QUICK QUESTION, IT MIGHT BE TO MADAM ATTORNEY. WE CAN ADD ANY CONDITION WE WANT ON 
          THIS? >> YES. 
          >> AND SAY HAY WE CAN SAY . >> WE CAN LIMIT 
          >> YES. APPROVAL TO YOUR APPLICATION AND ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THIS, WHAT YOU PUT ON THIS PAPER, IF IT IS ANOTHER CONDITION IT NEEDS TO COME BACK IN FRONT OF US, WE CAN SAY THAT. 
          >> I THINK ALL CONDITIONAL USES NEED TO COME TO US. 
          >> WHATEVER WE WANT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT AUTHORITY AND THAT IS THE QUESTION BEFORE THE APPLICANT, MADAM, MAYOR, WE 
          CAN DO THAT. >> AGREED. YES. MADAM, MAYOR? 
          >> YES, SIR. >> WITH KEEPING WITH THE FLEX SPACE WHAT IN THE CODE DO WE HAVE WHAT IS FLEX SPACE DEFINED 
          AS? >> WE DON'T. 
          >> FLEX SPACE IS LIKE THIS IS A THREE BATHROOM RANCH AND THIS IS 
          A GAMBRO, BOTH ARE A HOUSE. >> THEY ARE DELIBERATELY VAGUE 
          >> YES. FLEX SPACE IS NOT IN THE USE TABLE. 
          >> NO. WAREHOUSE AND FREIGHT BUT FLEX SPACE IS NOT. 
          >> IT IS A MARKETING TERM. >> YES. THAT IS IT. 
          >> YES. LET'S FIX THAT. >> I THINK WE SHOULD HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE APPLICANT WITH HER IN THE ROOM. I WOULD LIKE THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU. 
          >> YES, GOOD EVENING, ALL. I AM A LITTLE PREGNANT. SORRY. 
          >> OH, GOOD. WELL, WE NEED YOU TO SIT DOWN. MY SECOND CHILD, NOT MY FIRST RODEO. GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, I AM ERICA BITLER, I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. YOUR 
          LAST NAME? >> SPELL IT FOR US -- 
          [INDISCERNIBLE] >> SORRY. 
          >> AS CARRY HAS BEEN REVIEWING, THIS IS A PROJECT -- THAT WE ARE REQUESTING SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. 
          FOR A NEW FLEX SPACE DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT 4600 OKEECHOBEE ROAD, PROJECT TEAM CIVIL ENGINEER, LAND PLANNER AND ARCHITECT AND LANDSCAPE ARTIST AND OUR CLIENT. IT IS 3.57 ACRES AND IT IS VACANT. PAVED PARKING THAT WAS USED TO BE PART OF THE LANDINGS PUD OR OVERALL DEVELOPMENT. SINCE PURCHASED BY MY CLIENT. IT HAS SHARED ACCESS IN THE COMMERCIAL PLAZA TO ITS WEST. 
          AND TO THE NORTH IT IS MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, WEST, EXISTING EXPHECIAL TO THE EAST FIVE MILE CREEK AND THE RENAISSANCE BUSINESS PARK. THE ZONING AND LAND USE IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL AS WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. AND WITH THIS FLEX SPACE CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION. REALLY TRYING TO REQUEST INDUSTRIAL FLEX SPACE, IT IS NOT INTENDED FOR MY UNDERSTANDING WITH THE CLIENT FOR A BLANKET APPROVAL AS YOU WILL SEE LATER WITH THE BUILDING AND THE SITE PLAN, PARKING DATA 
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T DOES NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION OTHER USES THAT DON'T REALLY GO WITH THAT. BUT WITH THAT SAID, THIS IS A BLEND OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSING DISTRIBUTION, OFFICE AND LIMITED COMMERCIAL USES TO PROVIDE GREATER FLEXIBILITY FOR USERS SUCH AS SMALL SCALE MANUFACTURING, LOCAL DISTRIBUTION BUSINESSES, TRADE CONTRACTORS, SERVICE PROVIDERS AND START UP AND MAKERS. NEEDING AN OFFICE OR PRODUCTION SPACE. 
          AND AT THIS FLEXIBILITY IT IS CRITICAL IN THIS LANDSCAPE OF COMMERCIAL LANDSCAPE OFFERING ECONOMIC DIVERSITY, ADAPTABILITY WHILE BEING COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING LAND USES AND YOU ARE WELL AWARE OF THE SITE AS KERRY WENT THROUGH, THIS IS THE 5 MILE CREEK, RENAISSANCE PARK. THE TRACTOR SUPPLY, STORAGE AND I THINK WALMART IS OVER HERE WHICH WE CAN SEE IN THIS MORE WIDER VIEW. HERE IS 95. ABOUT A MILE IN. AND JUST SURROUNDED BY, YOU KNOW, A GATEWAY TO THE COMMUNITY OF FORT PIERCE. IT WOULD BE A VERY IMPORTANT BUSINESS CENTER FOR PEOPLE LOCALLY AND ALSO THAT MAY NEED TO TRAVEL ON 95. LET'S GET TO THE SITE PLAN. SO, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE HAVE OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND WE REALLY DO LIST OUT WAREHOUSE, ONE SPACE, OFFICE SPACE. IN THE LOADING AND ACCESSIBILITY STALLS. OUR END GOAL, REALLY, IS TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY FOR THESE DIFFERENT USES THAT I LISTED WITHIN LIGHT WAREHOUSE, INDUSTRIAL USE. AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN ABOUT FREE RANGE. I CAN'T QUOTE FOR THE CLIENT AT THIS MOMENT BUT WE CAN GET BACK TO YOU IN TERMS OF BEING SOLD OR POA-KIND OF MONITORING. THE BUSINESSES, THE LEASES AND THE UPKEEP. I WORKED WITH THIS CLIENT BEFORE. I AM SURE IT WILL BE WELL MAINTAINED. THEY DON'T LIKE TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY FOR SOMETHING GO TO THE WEIGH SIDE. 
          SO, AS MISS KERRY SAID, THERE ARE TWO BUILDINGS, SINGLE STORY AND THEY ARE ORIENTED WITH THE FRONT FACING OKEECHOBEE ROAD. 
          PARKING IN FRONT OF EACH BUILDING WITH ROLL UP DOORS IN THE REAR. PRESERVING AND IMPROVING THE ACCESS, SHARED ACCESS HERE FOR THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT. AND, ADJACENT SHOPPING CENTER. CODE COMPLIANT AND EXCEEDING THE LANDSCAPE THAT IS REQUIRED. WE HAVE 101 TREES THAT ARE REQUIRED AND WE ARE DOING 119. I AM A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT AS WELL, PERSONALLY PLACED THESE TREES. AND MAJORITY OF THEM I WANT TO SAY 90, 95% OF THEM ARE NATIVE. I LIKE TO DO SUSTAINABLE DESIGN. 
          THERE ARE SOME FLOWERING TREES THAT ARE UNDERNEATH THE FPL EAVESMENTS. YOU CAN NOT DO ANYTHING TOO BIG THERE. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE NICE ARCHITECTURE. YOU WILL HAVE GOOD ROAD FRONTAGE FROM OKEECHOBEE ROAD. AND GREEN SPACE ALL AROUND TO YOUR POINT ABOUT 5 MILE CREEK. WE ARE AWARE OF THE FLOODING. I DID DO WORK ON THE RENAISSANCE PARK IN THE OLD SEARS BUILDING. I AM NOT THE ENGINEER ON RECORD SO I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ON THAT. THE CONDITION REQUIRED WE WILL REVISIT THAT TO ENSURE THAT. THERE IS DRAINAGE THAT LEADS TO THIS RETENTION AREA IN THE REAR OF THE SITE PLAN AND WE CAN GO TO -- AS WE DISCUSSED AT THE PLANNING BOARD WE PAID SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THIS NORTHWEST CORNER OF OUR SITE. IT IS IMPORTANT NOT ONLY FOR VISUAL BUFFER BUT FOR SAFETY OF BOTH THE TENANTS OF THIS BUILDING AND FOR THE RESIDENTS TO OUR NORTH THAT WE DO SOME TYPE OF PRIVACY FENCE. HOWEVER, WE EXPLORED A 
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WALL. THERE IS A LOT OF EXISTING UTILITY EAVESMENT AND LINES THERE AND WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THE ROOM AND OR IT IS NOT SOUND TO PUT A WALL STRUCTURE WITH FOOTERS ON TOP OF WATER MAINS AND OTHER UTILITY LINES. SO, THIS IS JUST A GRAPHIC SHOWING NATIVE BUFFER IN THE YEAR ADJACENT TO WHAT THE RESIDENTS WILL BE LOOKING AT. SO LIKE A PLUNGE HEDGE AND PALMS AND PINES. THESE ARE THE SABLES, THE PINES AND THE HEDGES JUST RIGHT ON THE EDGE. THE RED LINE DEPICTS THE FENCE. THESE ARE OAKS. HERE IS BUILDING A. IS IS IN THE NORTH OF THE SITE AND BUILDING B. THIS IS CROSS SECTION OF THE WHOLE SITE AS A WHOLE. 5 MILE CREEK IS TO YOUR EAST. THE EXISTING GAS STATION THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST HAS BEEN VACANT FOR AWHILE WITH AS WELL AS THIS PARCEL. WE HAVE BETTER GRAPHIC HERE. IT IS PRETTY TYPICAL INDUSTRIAL FLEX SPACE. WE ARE DESIGNING WITH CLEAN LINES. DURABLE MATERIALS. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE FRONT ELEVATION WITH THE PARKING AND THE DOORS AND THE SIGNAGE FOR THE TENANTS WILL BE IN THE FRONT FACING OKEECHOBEE ON BOTH BUILDINGS AND THEN THE REAR HAS ROLL UP DOORS AND ACCESS. TO THE POINT OF LIMITING USES THERE IS DEFINITELY, I MEAN, RESIDENTIAL THINGS, NOT GOING TO DO WELL HERE. AND IT IS NOT OUR INTENT BY ANY MEANS. WE BELIEVE THIS ARCHITECTURE DOES REFLECT NEARBY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. THE SCALES APPROPRIATELY NEXT TO THE RESIDENTIAL USES AND AS MENTIONED THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDED WE LOOK AT ANOTHER COLOR OPTION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, DOES NOT WANT TO BLEND IN TOO MUCH. THAT IT IS NOT NOTICEABLE. 
          WHICH IS OUR CONDITION 9 WE WILL BE ADDRESSING. WE SPOKE WITH STAFF AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK OUT THE COLOR PALATES BASED ON THE APPROVED STANDARDS AND MAKE A FINAL DECISION PRIOR TO BUILDING PERMIT COLLABORATING WITH STAFF AND WHOEVER ELSE IS NECESSARY. THEY ARE IDENTICAL BUILDINGS. THE ONE IN THE REAR IS LONGER. AND THE ONE FRONTING DIRECTLY FRONTING OKEECHOBEE IS SHORTER. REALLY, THE BENEFIT OF THIS PROJECT IS, FIRST OF ALL ACTIVATING A LONG VACANT PARCEL. ENHANCES COMMERCIAL CAPACITY IN THIS TARGETED GROWTH CORRIDOR. PROVIDES SUPPORTING JOBS FOR THE COMMUNITY OF, YOU KNOW, SMALLER BUSINESSES, OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE MAYBE TO GET TWO UNITS AND HAVE A BIGGER OPERATION OUT OF IT. AND, REALLY JUST MAINTAINS COMPATIBILITY THROUGH DESIGN, BUFFERING AND CIRCULATION IMPROVEMENTS. WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS BUT ALSO WANT TO SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESSES. WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL IN CONSIDERATION. WE ARE CONFIDENT IT IS A WELL-BALANCED SITE PLAN FOCUSED ON THIS TARGETED INDUSTRY. DON'T WANT TO PIGEONHOLE OURSELVES TO JUST, YOU KNOW, THE USES. BUT WE ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS AND HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND FEEDBACK, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          >> SO, YOU HEARD OUR DISCUSSION >> YES, MA'AM. 
          >> YOU LISTED NINE USES ARE YOU WILLING TO LIVE WITH THAT? 
          >> I WOULD SAY SO. WE WROTE THAT AND STAND BY WHAT WE SUBMITTED. 
          HOWEVER IN THE FLEXIBILITY OF THE CONDITIONAL USE WE WERE FOCUSED ON THOSE USES BUT ALSO WHAT IS ALLOWED IN THAT LIGHT 
          INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE. >> YOU HEARD OUR DISCUSSION AND WE MAY WANT TO LIMIT IT. WE MAY WANT TO LIMIT IT TO WHAT YOU 
          SAID IN YOUR APPLICATION. >> UNDERSTOOD. 
          >> SO I JUST WANT TO SEE IF YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT OR NOT? ARE YOU -- ARE YOU GOING TO BE ADAMANT THAT YOU WANT A BLANKET CONDITIONAL GUESS IS WHAT I AM ASKING . 
          >> IF I CAN INTERJECT. I THINK WHAT YOU ARE SAYING HERE IS YOU WANT ALL OF THE USES THAT ARE PERMITTED PLUS THE NINE CONDITIONAL USES THAT YOU LISTED? 
          >> I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT AS HE IS NOT HERE. 
          I AM REPRESENTING HIM I DON'T, I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THEY ARE 
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NOT INTENDING TO HAVE A BLANKET CONDITIONAL USE FOR LIKE I DON'T KNOW, THE BEDS AND THE RESIDENTIAL USES AND I DO THINK THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS IS HAVING THE GREATER FLEXIBILITY BUT WE DON'T WANT IT TO COMPATIBLE FOR EACH LEASEE, YOU KNOW. IT IS TRUE THAT DAYCARES HAVE BEEN COMING INTO AREAS WHERE PEOPLE WORK FOR CONVENIENCE AND WHAT HAVE YOU. I CAN GET BACK TO YOU ON THE EXACT . 
          >> I THINK WE ARE GOING TO TAKE AN ACTION TONIGHT, PERHAPS. WE ARE GOING TO TAKE WHATEVER ACTION WE ARE GOING TO TAKE. AND THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT OR COME BACK TO US. 
          >> WE DEFINITELY WANT THE PROJECT TO FIT WITHIN THE CONTEXT. WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING THAT DOES NOT, YOU KNOW, MEET THE STANDARDS THAT WE PROVIDED IN THE SITE PLAN WITH THE 
          PARKING. AND OFFICE SPACE. >> RIGHT, GOOD POINT. 
          >> GOOD POINT. >> OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? CLEAR. EVERYBODY CLEAR. OKAY. YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD? 
          >> NOW I FEEL NERVOUS. 
          >> AND I SHOULD OF ASKED YOU EARLIER DO YOU HAVE ANY 
          QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> I JUST, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT -- OF STAFF, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? 
          >> YES, MA'AM. SORRY. >> WITH THE USE THAT WE HAVE LISTED IT IS REALLY WHAT IS, CAN WORK WITH THE FOOTPRINT AND THE REQUIREMENT THAT WE DID WITH PARKING. IF WE DID SOMETHING THAT DID NOT MATCH THOSE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, FOR INCIDENTS THE BEDS, THE THINGS THAT WOULD BE IN THAT BLANKET CONDITIONAL USE 
          . >> YOU NEED TO BE CLOSER TO YOUR 
          MIC. >> WE WOULD NEED TO REVISIT OUR SITE PLAN TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT. IF WE DID GET A BLANKET USE WE STILL DON'T ABIDE BY THE REGULATIONS OF 
          PARKING AND STUFF. >> ESSENTIALLY THAT WOULD REQUIRE A MODIFICATION, A SITE PLAN AMENDMENT SO IT WOULD COME 
          BACK TO THE CITY. >> OKAY, GOT IT. 
          >> YES. YEP. GOOD POINT. ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANT TO 
          ADD? >> I BELIEVE IN THIS PROJECT. I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF FOR I FEEL LIKE THREE YEARS ON THIS. 
          WE HAVE JUST MONITORING OUR CLIENT HAS BEEN MONITORING THE COMMUNITY AS BUSINESS OWNERS, THIS PROJECT IS HIGH CLASS FOR, YOU KNOW, THE USE AND GIVEN ITS VISIBILITY ON THIS CORRIDOR WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS A NICE PRODUCT FOR FORT PIERCE. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> ANYONE ELSE IN THE CHAMBERS WISH TO COMMENT ON THIS ISSUE? ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. IF YOU HAVE NOTHING FURTHER. WE ARE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND COMING 
          BACK TO THE COMMISSION >> THANK YOU. 
          >> I GUESS I WILL START. MY COMMENT WOULD BE, IS THAT I FEEL MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE WITH KEEPING CONTROL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PROVISION. IT HAS TO COME TO THIS BODY. THERE ARE A TON OF USES. I UNDERSTAND THEIR MARKETING PLAN. DIRECT COMPETITOR OF MINE AND I AM NOT TRYING TO RESTRICT THEIR FUNCTIONALITY OF THEIR SPACE. DESPERATE USES IN PROPERTY SUCH AS THIS IS A BIG PROBLEM. INCOMPATIBLE USES CREATE MAYHEM. 
          I UNDERSTAND THEIR TARGET MARKET IS NOT NECESSARILY TO DO THAT BUT, HAVING SAID THAT, AND I UNDERSTAND THE PARKING RESTRICTION, BINGO HALL OR WHATEVER IT WILL BLOW UP THE PARKING REQUIREMENT SO SITE PLAN WILL CHANGE TO GET MORE PARKING. 
          I DON'T SEE THAT. I AM JUST TRYING TO KEEP CONTROL OF THAT. 
          I THINK COMMISSIONER TAYLOR SAID IT IS A COMMON THING THAT WE DO, IT IS NOT. I HAVE SEEN IT A COUPLE TIMES ALL OF THE YEARS I SPENT ON THE PLANNING BOARD AND UP HERE. THERE IS NOT A COMMON THING JUST TO GIVE CART BLANCHE APPROVAL IN THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION. I PREFER TO KEEP THAT CONTROL. THE DEBATE I AM HAVING WITH MYSELF DO I SAY, DO I GRANT THEM THE NINE CONDITIONAL USES THEY ARE LOOKING TO HAVE APPROVAL OF NOW AND ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE NINE THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO US? THAT IS WHERE I AM COMING DOWN ON THIS RIGHT NOW? 
          >> YEAH, ME, TOO. >> MADAM, MAYOR? IS THE 9 PART OF THE PACKAGE THAT YOU CAN PUT UP ON THE SCREEN? 
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          >> THE NINE CONDITIONS, WHAT IS IT? SEVEN OR NINE? 
          >> NINE. >> NINE THEY REQUESTED. YES. 
          NINE USES. YES, NINE USES. WAS IT 10? 10 USES. OKAY. YOU HAD IT UP THERE BEFORE. THIS IS PART OF THEIR APPLICATION, THIS IS SUBMITTED AND ON THE RECORD, RIGHT? SO, I JUST REMIND US WE ARE IN A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING. WE CAN NOT PUT IDEAS IN PEOPLE'S HEADS. WE ARE EVALUATING IT FROM THAT STANDING. SO THIS LIMITS THEM TO, IF I UNDERSTAND THIS, THERE IS WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR, WHICH IS UNDER OUR USE CODE FOR 
          C-3 >> THAT IS CORRECT. 
          >> WHY DID IT GO AWAY? >> I AM SORRY. I AM A LITTLE SLOW TONIGHT. OKAY. SO, ALL RIGHT. SO, WHAT YOU ARE ASKING AND COMMISSIONER, MADAM MAYOR, WHAT THEY ARE ASKING IS LOOKING AT ALL OF THIS, LOOKING AT THEIR SUBMITTAL. I WOULD EXPECT, ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THIS EVEN IF IT MAY NUMBER THAT ACTUAL CONDITIONAL TABLE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO US. AM I CLEAR ON 
          THAT? >> YEP. 
          >> OKAY. SO, IF MY APPROVAL IS TO LIMIT IT TO THESE 10 USES 
          HERE. >> CONDITIONAL USE. 
          >> CONDITIONAL USE, THEN THAT LOCKS THEM IN ON THESE 10? 
          >> PLUS ALL OF THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED USES. 
          >> PERMITTED. >> PLUS THE PERMITTED ONES. YES. 
          I THINK I WAS SOMEWHAT COMFORTABLE OF THAT. 
          COMMISSIONER BRODERICK ASKS, SOME OF THAT STUFF, DAYCARE THAT NEEDS PARKING AND THAT WILL EAT INTO WHAT IS DESIGNED AND THE AREA AND ALL OF THAT COMES INTO A WHOLE DIFFERENT PROTOCOL THAT 
          THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK. >> AMEND THE SITE PLAN. 
          >> YES, OKAY. OKAY, I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR. 
          >> SO, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ANYONE READY TO MAKE 
          A MOTION? >> I GUESS I WILL GO AHEAD AND 
          MAKE A MOTION. >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR WANTS TO 
          SAY SOMETHING. >> SORRY. 
          >> THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THESE ON THERE THAT ARE, I MEAN, AT LEAST THE ENVIRONMENTAL RESEARCH, EDUCATION, GROUP HUB, THAT CAN BE A MICROBREWERY, THOSE ARE ALL PERMITTED USES THOSE COUPLE THAT I HAVE SEEN. AND RESEARCH FACILITY I BELIEVE I SAW PERMITTED AS WELL. ON THE TABLE. ARE YOU SAYING NO? 
          >> MADAM MAYOR, I AM CHECKING THE USE TABLE NOW AS YOU ARE GOING THROUGH, I WAS ON ENVIRONMENTAL RESEARCH AND EDUCATION FACILITIES AND THAT IS CONDITIONAL. 
          >> OKAY. SORRY, I SEE IT NOW. AND THE RESEARCH ONE. 
          >> I BELIEVE ALL IN THAT LIST IN THEIR APPLICATION ARE CONDITIONAL USE REQUIREMENTS. REQUIRES CONDITIONAL APPROVAL 
          >> IT IS HARD TO LOOK AT IT ON HERE 
          >> YES. MICROBREWERY. >> YES. ALL RIGHT, ANY WAY. JUST 
          WANTED TO KNOW TO GO TO. >> YES. ALL RIGHT, SO DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION COMMISSIONER BRODERICK? 
          >> YES, MADAM MAYOR I WOULD LOOK TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION LET ME SEE IF -- JUMP IN HERE IF YOU SEE ME FALLING OFF OF A CLIFF. 
          WE NEED TO APPROVE THE SITE PLAN HERE AND THEN THE USE, IS IT TWO APPROVALS? APPROVE THE SITE PLAN AND THEN THE USE PROVISIONS? 
          >> SO, MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS THE WAY I UNDERSTAND, WHAT I BELIEVE THE INTENT IS TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE WITH THE 10-LISTED CONDITIONAL USES IN THEIR APPLICATION, CONTAINED ON PAGE 9 OF THE APPLICATION THAT HAS BEEN UPLOADED. AND THE SITE PLAN. 
          >> WHAT SHE SAID. >> WITH THE NINE CONDITIONS. 
          >> WITH THE NINE CONDITIONS. >> YES, I GOT IT. THAT IS HOW I GOT IT, TOO. ALL RIGHT. HERE IS THE MOTION FROM WHAT I AM 
          HEARING >> WE NEED A SECOND. 
          >> ARE YOU GOING TO SECOND IT? >> HE LEFT OUT CONDITIONS THAT 
          THE PLANNING BOARD. >> OKAY. THOSE ARE WITH THE 
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CONDITIONS, THOSE ARE WITH THE NINE CONDITIONS THAT CAME TO US FROM THE PLANNING BOARD, PLUS, BASICALLY WE ARE ADDING 10TH CONDITION THAT THE CONDITIONALS BE LIMITED TO THE 10 PRINTED ON PAGE 9 FROM THE APPLICANT SUBMITTAL. 
          >> SECOND. >> RIGHT? 
          >> THAT IS WHAT I UNDERSTAND >> YEP. 
          >> OKAY. >> GOOD? 
          >> YOU MADE THE MOTION. EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THE MOTION? 
          IS THERE A SECOND? >> NEED TO REPEAT IT? 
          >> SECOND WHAT ARNOLD SAID. >> GOT IT? 
          >> YEP. NO, I AM CLEAR. AND WHEN I DO THE APPROVAL LETTER I AM GOING TO SPELL OUT ALL 10 CONDITIONS SO THERE WILL NOT BE ANY QUESTION AS TO WHAT, WHAT ACTUAL CONDITIONAL USES ARE 
          APPROVED IN THIS. >> YES. WE CAME HERE WITH NINE CONDITIONS AND WE ARE ADDING THE 10TH. 
          >> YES. AND THE 10 USES. >> YES, THAT ADDS THE OTHER 
          LIST. >> YES. RIGHT. 
          >> YES, WE ARE GETTING A LITTLE CONFUSED IS THE WORD CONDITIONS IS USED HERE AND ALSO USED IN THE OTHER LIST. RIGHT, THAT IS WHERE WE ARE ON THAT. YES. I AM CLEAR ON WHAT YOU ARE DOING. I AM VERY CLEAR ON WHAT YOU ARE DOING. EVERYBODY UP HERE VERY 
          CLEAR? >> CLEAR. 
          >> OKAY. CAN WE VOTE? IS THAT ALL RIGHT TO VOTE? 
          >> EVERYBODY READY? 
          [A.  Selection of 2025 FLC Annual Conference Voting Delegate. ]
          >> CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU. >>> TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE SELECTION OF THE 2025 FLORIDA LEAGUE ANNUAL CONFERENCE VOTING DELEGATE. WHO IS GO SOMETHING. 
          >> ALL OF US ARE GOING. WHO WANTS TO BE THE VOTING DELEGATE ? DO YOU WANT TO THE DO IT COMMISSIONER GAINES. 
          >> MOTION TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER GAINES. 
          >> A FIRST AND A SECOND, CALL THE ROLL. 
          [B.  Resolution No. 25-R42 Amending the Rules of Procedure for the Board of Examiners of Contractors]
          >> OKAY. NEXT WEC.÷÷÷ RESOLUTION NO. 25-R48 BUILDING DEPARTMENT FEE HAVE A ADOPTING THE BOARD OF EXAMINERS CONTRACTORS, RULES OF PROCEDURES AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE 
          DATE. >> AS MR. THOMAS TOLD US EARLIER THERE IS BASED ON WHAT WE VOTED EARLIER UNLESS ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS OF MR. THOMAS I WILL HAVE A MOTION, MOTION IS CALLED TO A SECOND, CALL THE ROLL. 
          [C.  Resolution No. 25-R48 Building Department Fee Schedule]
OF THE CITY COMMISSION IN THE CITY OF FLORIDA ADOPTING UPDATED FEE SCHEDULE PROVIDING FOR CLAUSE AND REPEALING ALL RESOLUTIONS AND CONFLICT HERE WITH AND PROVIDING FOR AN 
          EFFECTIVE DATE. >> MY UNDERSTANDING THERE IS NOT AND CHANGES, JUST RE-ARRANGING THESE FEES. A MOTION? 
          >> MOVE. >> SECOND. 
          >> MOTION AND SECOND. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. 
          CALLED ] OKAY COMMENTS FOR THEANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO COMMENT ON ANY SUBJECT MAY BE HEARD AT THIS TIME. PLEASE 
          [15. COMMENTS FROM THE CITY MANAGER]
PUBLIC. LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE (3) MINUTES OR LESS, AS 
          DIRECTED BY THE MAYOR, AS THIS >> AND I SEE NO MOVEMENT, WE 
          WILL MOVE ON. >> I HAVE AN UPDATE FROM MR. 
          SORENSON. >> ALL RIGHTY. 
          >> GOOD EVENING, HR MANAGER, I HAVE A QUICK UPDATE FOR YOU. IF YOU RECALL FROM LAST, MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU RECALL FROM THE LAST MEETING WE TALKED WITH OR UPDATED YOU ON THE CONSULTANT THAT WE WENT WITH THAT IS OUT OF TALLAHASSEE. WE BEGAN NEGOTIATIONS ON A CONTRACT WITH THEM. AS OF TODAY IT HAS GONE THROUGH THE REQUEST FOR LEGAL SERVICES COMPLETELY. WE HAVE A CLEAN COPY WE ARE SENDING TO THEM TO SIGN AND WE WILL GET THE CITY MANAGER TO SIGN AND WE WILL BEGIN TO SET UP A TIME FRAME AND BRING BACK HOW IT IS GOING TO ROLL OUT. I HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION WITH MR. NORLOCK, 1 1/2 WEEKS AGO AND CONVEYED TO HER WHAT COMMISSION ASKED ME TO, LOOKING FOR TRANSPARENCY AND INPUT FROM THE CITIZENS AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE IN OTHER AREAS YOU 
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HAVE DONE THESE SEARCHES, SHE GAVE ME A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS AND PUT IT INTO THE CONTRACT SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT COULD INCLUDE THAT. FOR EXAMPLE SHE HAD IN ONE AREA SHE DID A THREE-QUESTION SURVEY THAT SHE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE. AND WHAT IT WOULD DO IS THE CITIZENS WOULD GO IN AND SAY THE QUESTIONS CAN BE SOMETHING LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR IN THE NEXT POLICE CHIEF? WHAT IS YOUR BIGGEST CONCERN THAT IS FACING THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, ASK THEN SHE WOULD TAKE ALL OF THE RESPONSES AND PUT THEM TOGETHER AND BASICALLY USE THAT TO LOOK, AS FAR AS HER SEARCH FOR THE NEXT POLICE CHIEF, AS FAR AS INPUT INTO THAT. IN ADDITION TO THAT SHE HAS USED DIFFERENT THINGS WHERE SHE WOULD HAVE LIKE A PUBLIC MEETING WHERE THE FINALISTS, DOWN TO THREE OR FOUR OR WHATEVER, PRESENT TO THE COMMISSION WHY THEY FEEL THEIR EXPERT -- WHY THEY FEEL THEY CAN BE GOOD FOR THE CITY. I AM EXCITED ABOUT THAT. WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONTRACT BEING SIGNED, WEDNESDAY AT THE LATEST. FROM THERE, I WILL COME BACK AND ONCE WE SET UP A TIME LINE, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT, SHE KNOWS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR, SHE KNOWS, YOU KNOW, THE DIRECTION WHICH WE WANT TO GO. ONCE WE GET THE CONTRACT IN PLACE WE WILL HAVE THE TIME LINE AND GET IT POSTED AND START THE ACTUAL SEARCH. I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. 
          >> QUESTIONS OF MR. SORENSON? >> VERY DETAILED. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. SORENSON. 
          >> I HAVE ONE MORE UPDATE. THIS IS JUST AN UPDATE ON F-DOT PROJECT. WE WILL GO INTO DETAIL ON THE BRIDGE. 
          >> OKAY. >> MR. MARK, SOMETIMES I HAVE A HARD TIME PRONOUNCING YOUR LAST NAME SO I WILL CALL YOU MR. 
          MARK. >> NO WORRIES. 
          >> I GOT A CALL LATE LAST WEEK OR BEFORE THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND FROM STAN TECH, THE CONSULTANT DOING QC WORK FOR NORTH CAUSEWAY BRIDGE. THEY INFORMED US THAT FEC DICTATED THEY NEED TO DO THE TWO BRIDGE ABUTMENTS NEAR THE RAILROAD FOR THE PILE DRIVING. 
          THEY ARE TRYING TO LIMIT THE POTENTIAL FOR THE DAMAGE TO THE TRACKS EFFECTING THE TRAIN SCHEDULE, IF THAT POSSIBLY HAPPENED, ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING. GAVE THEM A STRICT WINDOW WHETHER THEY CAN DO THE TWO BRIDGE ABUTMENTS. IT IS, UNFORTUNATELY, AT NIGHT. SO, OVER -- THEY ARE STARTING WORK TONIGHT. AND THE NIGHT WORK IS GOING TO LAST -- FROM JULY 7TH THROUGH AUGUST 28TH. THE NIGHT WORK FROM 9:00 P.M. TO 6:00 A.M. 
          >> WITH SPECIFICALLY PILE DRIVING OPERATIONS FROM 1:00 TO 4:30 IN THE MORNING. NOT AN EVERY NIGHT, IT WILL BE INTERMITTENT BUT IT WILL CAUSE A NUISANCE TO SOME DEGREE FOR SURE. THEY HAVE DONE EXTENSIVE PUBLIC OUTREACH. DOOR KNOCKING, FLYERS, EMAILS TO EVERYBODY WITHIN A MILE RADIUS OF THE PROJECT. SO, THEY ARE -- IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. I WISH THEY WOULD OF GIVEN US MORE OF A HEAD'S UP, JUST BEFORE A HOLIDAY WEEKEND. IT WAS A SCRAMBLE AT THE END OF THE WEEK TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS GOING ON. THEY ARE SETTING UP SEISMIC EQUIPMENT AS FOR D.O.T. SPECIFICATIONS TO MONITOR VIBRATIONS, LUCKILY THERE IS NOT A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES RIGHT THERE. MOSTLY COMMERCIAL. AND THEY HAVE BEEN KEEPING THEM UP-TO-DATE ON WHAT IS GOING ON. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT IS HAPPENING. I AM SURE WE WILL GET NOISE COMPLAINTS. TALKED TO CHIEF RIDDLE. HE IS AWARE OF WHAT IS 
          GOING ON. THAT IS IT. >> YOU KNOW F THERE WERE NOISE COMPLAINTS WHEN THEY WERE DOING IT IN THE DAY TIME? 
          >> I DID NOT. >> I HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER WHO LIVES VERY NEAR THERE, THERE ARE NOT MANY RESIDENTS, THAT IS TRUE. JUST THE DAY TIME WAS PRETTY NERVE WRACKING 
          >> IT CARRIES ACROSS THE WATER. >> RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          >> THEY PUT OUT AN EMAIL BLAST OR SOMETHING UP ON OUR WEBSITE. 
          >> YES, ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND WEBSITE. NOTICE. 
          >> AND A FLYER EXPLAINING EVERYTHING. 
          >> SO, THIS IS THE FLYER OF THE TRANSPORTATION, FCC'S DECISION, NOT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE DECISION. 
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          >> YES. WE WANT EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND. 
          >> HOPING TO GET THE WORD OUT TO EVERYBODY. IT WILL NOT BE EVERY NIGHT, A SMALL WINDOW BUT THEY WILL BE WORKING AT NIGHT. IT IS COMING FROM THEM. ONE LINE STOPPING RUNNING THE TRAINS AND THE LEAST AMOUNT OF TRAIN ACTIVITY IN CASE SOMETHING WENT WRONG AND THEY DAMAGED THE TRACKS THAT IT WILL NOT CAUSE AS 
          BIG OF A PROBLEM. >> RIGHT. 
          >> AND THEN EVEN SAYING THAT PLANTS THE SEED. 
          >> AND THE NIGHT CONSTRUCTION WILL TAKE PLACE SUNDAY THROUGH 
          THURSDAY. >> OKAY. 
          >> AND JULY 7TH THROUGH AUGUST 28TH? 
          >> THE FIRST PILE DRIVING IS PLANNED TO START TOMORROW NIGHT. 
          ORIGINALLY IT WAS TODAY BUT THEY PUSH IT BACK ONE DAY. TOMORROW NIGHT IS THE FIRST NAME THEY WILL BE DRIVING. 
          >> TAKING THE NEXT SIX WEEKS OFF? 
          >> YES. THIS IS NOT CITY OF FORT PIERCE. 
          >> IS THERE, IF WE GET NOISE COMPLAINTS IS THERE SOMEONE THAT 
          WE CAN REFER THEM TO? >> ON THE FLYER, ALL OF THE PROJECT MANAGERS ARE LISTED ON THERE. IT HAS EVERYONE'S CONTACT INFORMATION. I AM SURE THE POLICE WILL GET CALLS. CODE IS AWARE OF WHAT IS GOING ON. WE CAN CONTACT ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE ON THERE. THEY DID OFFER TO COME HERE TONIGHT. I DID NOT THINK IT WAS NECESSARY. THEY SAID THEY COULD SCRAMBLE SOMEBODY BUT FROM PRACTICAL STANDPOINT I CAN ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU 
          HAVE. >> I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD BE 
          EXCITED TO COME HERE. >> IT WAS STAN TECH. THE PEOPLE THAT REACHED OUT TO US TO GIVE US A HEAD'S UP. 
          >> TRICKLE DOWN THEORY. >> AND F-DOT? 
          >> NO, CONSULTANTS. >> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THIS GENTLEMAN HERE? 
          >> MR. MARK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE GOOD NEWS. 
          >> I APOLOGIZE AHEAD OF TIME. >> SO, MADAM MAYOR, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF, I KNOW WE SENT OUT EMAILS, RIGHT? I THINK WE CAN NOT STOP WITH JUST THAT, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING PERMANENTLY ON THE FRONT PAGE OF OUR WEBSITE, RIGHT? AS WELL AS CONSTANTLY OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, ALMOST LIKE A DAILY THING FOR SOME REASON, WE NEED TO GET IT OUT. I HEARD THE PILE DRIVERS FROM MY HOUSE. I KNOW RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET LITERALLY BEHIND PUBLIX, THEY ARE GOING TO HEAR IT. PARADISE PARK ARE GOING TO HEAR IT. IT IS IMPORTANT. SO, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE GET SOMETHING PUT ON THE FRONT PAGE THAT DOES NOT MOVE OR REVOLVE OR WHATEVER AND LETTING THEM KNOW WE ARE AWARE, MAKING YOU AWARE AND IT IS NOT US. THIS IS THE SCHEDULE, RIGHT? AND I THINK YOU DO THAT AND GET THE FLYER. I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THAT, TOO. TO MY BASE BECAUSE OF MY DISTRICT AND HOW THAT LINES UP TO THAT I THINK WE NEED TO GET THAT OUT TO THAT AND ASK ORGANIZATIONS HELP US COMMUNICATE THIS TO THE COMMUNITY. COUPLE RADIO STATIONS I KNOW WE CAN GET PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS ON TO LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THIS AS WELL. BECAUSE, FROM SUNDAY THROUGH THURSDAY IS WHAT I HEARD THAT THEY WILL BE DRIVING. 
          >> 9:00 P.M. TO 6:00 A.M. >> THE DRIVING, THE PILE DRIVING WORK SHOULD ONLY HAPPEN FROM 1:00 TO 4:30 A.M. 
          >> YES. >> WAKING PEOPLE UP AT 1:00 IN 
          THE MORNING. >> YES, AND I DID ASK, OBVIOUSLY, THERE IS, WHEN EVERYBODY IS SLEEPING. I DID ASK IF THEY CAN GIVE US A DAY'S NOISE WHEN THEY ARE GOING TO BE DRIVING PILES, THEY SAID THEY CAN DO THAT. AT LEAST WE CAN GIVE EVERYBODY A HEAD'S UP IT WILL BE HAPPENING TONIGHT. THERE WILL BE EQUIPMENT MOVING OUT THERE DURING THE OTHER TIMES BUT, FROM A NUISANCE STANDPOINT THE PILE DRIVING WILL BE THE 
          WORST OF IT. >> THAT IS ALL I ASK. GET IT UP 
          THERE AND DO THE BEST WE CAN DO. >> I WILL GET THE EMAIL AND THE 
          FLYERS. >> FOLLOW UP QUESTION, WHY DO 
          THEY NOT DO IT DURING THE DAY? >> BECAUSE ALL OF THE TRAINS ARE 
          MOVING >> OKAY, ALL RIGHT. 
          >> THE TWO, YES. >> I AM ASSUMING THEY WILL DO AN INSPECTION TO MAKE SURE THE TRACKS ARE OKAY. 
          >> YES. SOMEONE WILL BE WATCHING THAT. 
          >> I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR SURE >> THIS IS NOT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. I AM GOING TO SAY IT. OUR FAVORITE ORGANIZATION. 
          >> YES. RIGHT, ONCE AGAIN. 
          >> OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU, MR. MARK. ARE YOU 
          DONE? >> YES, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. 
          >> GOOD NEWS AND THE BAD NEWS THERE 
          [16. COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION]
          >> MRS. COX DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? 
          >> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TONIGHT. 
          >> ALL RIGHTY. COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION. 
          >> WHO WOULD LIKE TO START? ANYONE WITH A COMMENT? 
          >> I WILL GO FIRST, MADAM MAYOR. >> AS YOU KNOW I USUALLY, DURING 
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MY WALKS, GO ON MY RANT AND TALK ABOUT THE CLEANLINESS OF THE AREA THAT I WALK. I WAS VERY HAPPY SATURDAY AND SUNDAY MORNING BECAUSE AFTER THE HOLIDAYS USUALLY THERE ARE A LOT OF FIREWORKS DEBRIS, A LOT OF CANS, A LOT OF EVERYTHING. AND I WANT TO SAY THAT PART OF CITY OF FORT PIERCE WE ARE STARTING TO GET IT. IT LOOKED VERY CLEAN. I WAS VERY HAPPY. 
          >> I SAW YOUR HAPPINESS. >> I WAS VERY HAPPY. 
          >> YEP. >> LIKE I SAID JUST A FEW CANS THAT I GUESS THE WIND MUST OF BLOWN OUT OF THE GARBAGE CAN, I DON'T KNOW. IT WAS NOT WHAT I AM EXPECTING. THANK YOU FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA THAT ARE USING OUR GARBAGE CANS AND 
          KEEPING OUR CIT CLEAN. >> GOOD. 
          >> COMMISSIONER TAYLOR. >> I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A GREAT FOURTH OF JULY WEEKEND. IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYONE STILL HAS ALL OF THEIR FINGERS. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO FORT PIERCE FOR SPEARHEADING THE FIREWORKS AGAIN. IT WAS NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF DOWNTOWN BUT I DID SEE THE FIREWORKS AND LOOKED LIKE EVERYTHING WENT GREAT. THANK YOU TO THE YACHT CLUB FOR THEIR INVITE TO THEIR FOURTH OF JULY PARTY, I HAD A GREAT TIME. I ALSO DID MY RIDE ALONG WITH MR. JASON, OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR LAST WEEK. JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO HIM AND HIS TEAM FOR ALL OF THEIR EFFORTS. I AM REALLY EXCITED FOR ALL OF THE THINGS HE HAS PLANNED TO MAKE THAT DEPARTMENT BETTER AND WORK MORE EFFICIENTLY AND EXCITED ABOUT ALL OF IT. I THINK WE ARE -- I USE IT AS JUST MAKING SURE HE IS SEEING THE SAME THINGS THAT I SEE. HE 100% IS. IT MADE ME FEEL VERY HAPPY. WARM FUZZIS. 
          I AM EXCITED ABOUT ALL OF THE THINGS HE IS GOING TO DO. THAT 
          IS IT. >> THAT IS IT? 
          >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? >> NOTHING TO ADD. 
          >> A COUPLE QUICK THINGS. ON THE COMMISSION REPRESENTATIVE TO THE SUNRISE THEATER. AND THE ACTING EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR CAME TO SEE ME A WEEK OR SO AGO. SHE HAD A REQUEST THAT I THOUGHT I WANTED TO PRESENT TO THE COMMISSION. AND IT IS ALMOST AS IF IT IS A COURTESY THING. COULD BE MORE TO IT AS WELL. SHE IS AWARE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE OPERATIONS OF THE SUNRISE THEATER IS OUT FOR A PROPOSAL. THERE IS GOING TO BE A REVIEW COMMITTEE THAT WILL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY ON THIS TOPIC. SHE ASKED ON BEHALF OF HER AND HER STAFF TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND MAKE A PITCH THEMSELVES. FOR THEIR SERVICES TO CONTINUE THERE. AND IT WAS A VERY INTERESTING CONVERSATION FROM THE PERSPECTIVE, I SAID, WELL, THE CITY COMMISSION IS LOOKING FOR CHANGE FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. NOT POINTING THE FINGERS AT ANYBODY. THERE IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED. SHE HAD A LOT OF GOOD ANSWERS TO MY NOT PUSH BACK ON THIS TOPIC BUT MY COMMENTARY ON THIS TOPIC. I WANTED TO JUST BRING IT UP TO YOU IF YOU THOUGHT IT WOULD BE REASONABLE TO GIVE THE EXISTING STAFF AND THEIR HIGHER UPS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A PITCH TO THE COMMISSION THEMSELVES. WE HAVE AN RFP PROCESS. I DON'T WANT 
          THAT TO BE. >> I DON'T -- I DON'T WANT -- I THINK I NEED TO ASK MRS. HEDGES BEFORE WE DISCUSS IT 
          MORE. >> AS I AM UNDERSTANDING THE REQUEST. NOT THAT THEY WISH TO BID ON THE SERVICES THEY WISH TO EXPLAIN THEIR POSITION AS TO WHY THE CITY SHOULD KEEP THIS IN HOUSE AND NOT GO OUTSIDE. MY ANSWER TO THAT WOULD BE THE PROPER CHAIN OF COMMAND IS TO SPEAK WITH THEIR CITY MANAGER ABOUT THAT AND FLOWING THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER AND HE SHOULD BE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH HIS STAFF AND PRESENTING THAT AS HE SEES FIT TO THE CITY COMMISSION. 
          >> WHICH I AM PERFECTLY FINE WITH, OBVIOUSLY. I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU. THEY ARE ASKING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY. 
          >> THEY HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO ME. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM HAVING A 
          DISCUSSION WITH THEM. >> ALL RIGHT. I WILL LEAVE THAT IN YOUR CAPABLE HANDS. ITEM NUMBER 2, NOT IN YOUR CAPABLE HANDS. I HAD A LENGTHY CONVERSATION WITH OUR CONGRESSMAN TODAY, REGARDING OUR FAVORITE TOPICS, FEC. IF YOU ARE 
          [01:55:05]
NOT AWARE, FEC WAS SOLD TO A MEXICAN CONGLOM CONGLOMERATE. 
          AND THERE ARE MULTIPLE FRONTS THAT WE ARE FIGHTING HERE WITH F.E.C. HE IS GOING TO PULL ANOTHER CARD. HE IS GOING TO GET AHOLD OF THE AMBASSADOR TO MEXICO AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE. HE HAS SOME SWAY HERE. I SAID, HONESTLY HE IS NOT IN MY SPEED DIAL, HAVE AT IT, PLEASE, HE IS TRYING TO PULL OUT AS MANY STOPS AS HE CAN AS WELL. HE MADE INQUIRIES ON ALL FRONTS CONCERNING F.E.C. TODAY, I GAVE HIM MY PERSPECTIVE. HE WAS SUPPORTIVE AND ASSURED ME HE WILL GET IT INTO THE TOP HANDS AND HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION. REGARDING THIS F.E.C. ISSUES AND HE IS LOOKING TO SHAKE THE TREE. MY UNDERSTANDING WE MAY HAVE THOSE FOLKS COMING IN FOR OUR MORNING MEETING THIS MONTH. 
          F.E.C. AND WASTE MANAGEMENT. >> I HAVE NOT HEARD BACK. 
          >> THAT IS A TELLING STATEMENT. I WILL PLACE A CALL TO THEM TOMORROW AS WELL. AND I INVITED THE CONGRESSMAN TO ATTEND THAT MEETING. THE MORE FIREPOWER WE CAN HAVE HERE TO SHARE OUR LEVEL OF FRUSTRATIONS ON ALL OF THESE PARTICULAR ISSUES. HE SAID HE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO BE IN ATTENDANCE FOR THAT MEETING. 
          I KNOW YOU ARE NOT EXCITED. >> DO YOU WANT ME TO SHOW UP? 
          >> I WOULD. >> THAT IS THE UPDATE. I RUN IT PASSED YOU. THE INFORMATION CAME DIRECTLY FROM HIM AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO PRESS ON ALL FRONTS ON THIS TOPIC. I THINK THAT IS 
          ALL I GOT. >> OH, I NEGLECTED TO GET WITH THE CITY MANAGER REGARDING EXPANDING OUR FOOTPRINT OF PARKING ON INDIAN RIVER DRIVE. AS YOU KNOW WE GAVE UP APPROXIMATELY 120 SPACES. TOOK OVER A LOT WHICH IS ABOUT HALF OF THAT. SHE HAS OFFERED TO PROVIDE HER NORTHERN LOT FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING THAT IS CLOSER TO THE FORT PIERCE YACHT CLUB. TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PUSH BACK AND CRITICISM. UNTIL YOU EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE THEY TRIPLED THE COST. THEN THEY UNDERSTAND. 
          WE CAN PICK UP 30 SPACES OVER THERE AT THE NOMINAL COST OF PAYING TAXES AND LIABILITY INSURANCE. THAT IS IT. I WILL GET WITH THEM THIS WEEK TO GET THE CONTACT INFORMATION, IF IT IS THE COMMISSION'S SENSE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THEY WOULD 
          LIKE TO PURSUE. >> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. I HAVE A QUESTION JUST TO BE CLEAR. THE TRAIN SITUATION WITH THE WASTE THAT WAS COMING UP, I THOUGHT THAT WOULD, THAT WAS MOVED WESTWARD NOW, IS THAT STILL THE CASE? STILL GETTING 
          COMPLAINTS ON THAT? >> YES. 
          >> OH, OKAY. >> THEY WERE GOING TO DO THIS 
          AND IT NEVER HAPPENED. >> OKAY, OKAY. 
          >> THAT IS THE REASON WE ARE STILL DISCUSSING IT. 
          >> OKAY, GOT IT NOW, I AM CLEAR >> COMPLAINTS STILL COMING IN. 
          >> GOT IT, GOT IT. >> MRS. COX HAS BEEN WORKING TO GET REPRESENTATIVES HERE. ORIGINALLY IT WAS IN JUNE, SHORT NOTICE THEY COULD NOT GET HERE AND NOW JULY AND NOW THEY ARE NOT RESPONDING TO OUR INQUIRIES THAT WARRANTS A NASTY PHONE CALL 
          THAT I AM WILLING TO UNDERTAKE. >> FOR SOME REASON I REALLY THOUGHT THAT THEY SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO IT WEST 
          >> THEY DID SAY THAT. THEY DID. REQUESTS, QUICKLY. REQUESTS, BUT 
          IT HAS NOT HAPPENED. >> OH, OKAY. 
          >> WE WILL GET THEM IN HERE. AND PROSECUTE THEM. 
          >> CLEARLY THE COMPLAINTS ARE LEGIT. OUR STAFF HAS DONE EVERYTHING IN THEIR AUTHORITY TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. WE HAVE NOW OUR COUNTY PARTNERS INVOLVED IN THIS. THEY ARE SITTING HERE 
          SAYING, SCREW YOU. SO, . >> INCLUDING THE PUBLIC HEALTH 
          DEPARTMENT >> THAT IS HAPPENING THIS WEEK. 
          >> YES, YES. >> MADAM MAYOR. TRANSCRIPTS DO 
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NOT PICK UP COMMENTS, THE PROSECUTING COMMENT WAS MADE IN 
          JEST AND EVERYONE LAUGHED. >> I HAVE A SERIOUS QUESTION AND 
          ANSWER PERIOD. >> 30 SECONDS, MADAM MAYOR. I FORGET TO SAY SOMETHING. I JUST WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK AND CONGRATULATE ALL OF THE STUDENTS IN FORT PIERCE CITY LIMITS THAT 
          ATTEND COUNTY SCHOOLS. >> YES, GOOD FOR YOU. 
          >> IT WAS THEIR HARD WORK WITH THE TEACHERS AND RESIDENTS, THEIR HARD WORK THAT ST. LUCIE COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS BEEN 
          GRADED AN A. >> YES. 
          >> THAT IS OUR STUDENTS, OUR TEACHERS AND PARENTS. 
          >> I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK ALL OF OUR PARENTS AND STUDENTS THAT ARE RESIDENTS OF FORT PIERCE. I REALLY WANT TO THANK THE PARENTS AND STUDENTS OF DEM MCCARTY. FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE 2006 OR 2005 IS A B., A B. SCHOOL 
          >> WONDERFUL. I DID NOT KNOW THAT. 
          >> AND THAT, WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, THANK THE TEACHERS, THE PARENTS, THE STUDENTS, ANYBODY WHO HAD A JOB IN TURNING THAT SCHOOL AROUND. I AM CHALLENGING THEM NOW, THE SAME PARENTS AND STUDENTS THAT NEXT YEAR THIS TIME I WANT THEM TO COME BACK WITH AN A. IF YOU DON'T KNOW, MOST OF THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN MY DISTRICT IN THAT AGE GROUP ATTEND THAT SCHOOL. I JUST WANT TO, I AM SO HAPPY I WANT TO THANK THEM DOING WHAT THEY HAD TO DO TO GET THAT B. ST. LUCIE COUNTY WITH OUR STUDENTS WE ARE 
          NOW AN A. DISTRICT >> YES, GREAT, GREAT, TERRIFIC. 
          I HAVE ONE QUICK THING. COMMISSIONER CONVENED A GROUP OF PEOPLE TO START A VISION COUNCIL. HE IS NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT FORM IT IS GOING TO TAKE OR IF IT IS EVEN GOING TO TAKE OFF. 
          HE INVITED ME AND THE PORT ST. LUCIE MAYOR, REPRESENTATIVE FROM E.D.C AND THERE WAS A DISCUSSION AND I WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED. 
          VERY, VERY UNIFORMED RIGHT NOW. HE WAS JUST LOOKING FOR INPUT F IT WAS A GOOD IDEA, IF IT WAS, HOW TO GO ABOUT IT. I WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED. IF YOU SEE HIM AND INTERESTED IN IT YOU MIGHT BRING IT UP TO SEE WHAT HE IS THINKING. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW I WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED AS THIS PROCEEDS. WITHOUT ANY FURTHER ADIEU, UNLESS THERE IS, WE WILL BE ADJOURNING. WE WILL
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