ALL RIGHT. CALL TO ORDER. PLANNING BOARD REGULAR MEETING.
[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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MONDAY, OCTOBER 13TH, 2025. IF YOU WOULD ALL PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. FRIENDLY REMINDER. PLEASE SILENCE YOUR MOBILE DEVICES.
AND WE WILL CALL THE ROLL. MISTER JOHNSON. PRESENT.
MISS CLEMENS. PRESENT. MISTER WHITING. PRESENT.
MISS CARTER. PRESENT. MR. EDWARDS. MR. COLLINS.
PRESENT. CHAIR. CHRYSLER. CRYSTAL PRESENT. MR.
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EDWARDS IS NOT WITH US. DID HE? MR. EDWARDS STATED HE WOULD BE IN ATTENDANCE TODAY.I THINK WE GIVE HIM A FEW MOMENTS SEE IF HE TRICKLES IN.
IN THE MEANTIME, WE CAN PROCEED WITH REVIEW OF THE MINUTES.
[a. Minutes from the September 8, 2025 meeting.]
IF YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NO DISCUSSION, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION.I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES BY MISS CLEMENS.
SECOND, BY MISS CARTER, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MR. WHITING? YES, MISS CARTER? YES, MR. COLLINS? YES, MA'AM.
MR. JOHNSON. YES, MISS. CLEMENS? YES. CHAIR. KISSEL.
YES. ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO NEW BUSINESS. WE HAVE ITEM SIX, A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR
[a. Comprehensive Plan EAR Outreach Presentation Stephanie Heidt, Treasure Coast Regional Planning Council]
OUTREACH OUTREACH PRESENTATION.GOOD MORNING. OH GOOD AFTERNOON. I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE THIS MORNING.
SO CHAIR PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS, MY NAME IS STEPHANIE HITE.
I'M THE EXECUTIVE DEPUTY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL.
SO. SO WHAT IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? I KNOW MOST OF YOU ARE DEALING WITH THE LAND USE ELEMENT, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT MOSTLY YOU'RE LOOKING AT. BUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS A GUIDE FOR THE CITY.
IT'S A GUIDE FOR THE ELECTED OFFICIALS DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT LOOKS AT THE LONG TERM FOR THE COMMUNITY, THE COMMUNITY'S VISION. IT LOOKS AT PROTECTING YOUR ASSETS.
IT GUIDES DECISION MAKING AS YOU THE PLANNING BOARD.
CITY. SO IT'S YOUR BLUEPRINT. IT'S YOUR GUIDE FOR HOW THE CITY IS RUN.
SO WHY HAVE A PLAN? BECAUSE HOPE IS NOT A PLAN, RIGHT? BY HAVING A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE ELEMENTS WITHIN IT, YOU'RE ABLE TO ENSURE YOUR FISCAL RESPONSIBILITIES.
YOU PLAN NOT ONLY FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW, BUT ALSO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE.
IT CREATES CERTAINTY FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. IF PEOPLE COME IN AND WANT TO BRING A BUSINESS IN OR BRINGING A DEVELOPMENT, THEY KNOW BY YOUR PLAN WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING IF THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO, IS THAT GOING TO FIT IN WITH THE COMMUNITY VISION? IT MAINTAINS THE QUALITY OF LIFE, WHICH WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO ALL THE PEOPLE I'VE SPOKEN TO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, AND IT HELPS YOU TO BE SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT.
ELEMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WILL GO OVER THESE QUICKLY. SO THE FUTURE LAND USE, OF COURSE, YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH. IT'S YOUR OVERARCHING LOOKING AT WHERE ARE OUR LAND USES, WHAT'S OUR DENSITY, WHAT'S OUR INTENSITY GOING TO BE IN THOSE LAND USES? TRANSPORTATION IS LOOKING AT EVERYTHING FROM OUR ROADWAYS TO TO SHIPPING TO RAIL, ALL OF THAT, THAT TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE. INFRASTRUCTURE IS YOUR, YOUR PUBLIC WORKS THINGS, YOUR, YOUR WATER, YOUR SEWER. IT CAN INCLUDE THE ROADWAYS AS WELL.
CONSERVATION. HOW ARE WE CONSERVING THE NATURAL RESOURCES THAT YOU HAVE? COASTAL MANAGEMENT. IN 2015, THE LEGISLATURE PASSED LEGISLATION CALLED THE PERIL OF FLOOD ACT.
HAVING AND HAVING RESILIENT INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE.
HOUSING. BIG DEAL RIGHT NOW, RIGHT. WE'RE ALL LOOKING AT HOUSING.
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SO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT WHAT THE NEEDS ARE IN THE COMMUNITY AND AND LOOK TO THE FUTURE AS WELL.WHAT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED IN THE FUTURE. RECREATION.
OPEN SPACE IS, OF COURSE, YOUR PARKS INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION.
HOW DO YOU GET ALONG WITH OTHER AGENCIES? HOW DO YOU WORK WITH OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENTS? CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. THAT'S THAT PART OF THE PLAN THAT GETS UPDATED EVERY YEAR.
PUBLIC FACILITIES MANAGEMENT IS LOOKING AT LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARDS FOR ALL THOSE TYPES OF INFRASTRUCTURE THINGS ROADWAY, SEWER POTABLE WATER PUBLIC SCHOOL FACILITIES.
WE SAW A PRESENTATION THIS MORNING FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. SO WE WILL BE REACHING OUT TO THEM AS WELL TO HAVE THEM LOOK AT THAT, TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT'S IN THERE IS ALSO IN THEIR PLAN SO THAT YOU'RE WORKING TOGETHER WITH THEM.
AND THEN IN 2021, THE LEGISLATURE SAID, YOU NEED TO HAVE A PROPERTY RIGHTS ELEMENT.
THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE ONE ELEMENT WITHIN THE PLAN THAT WE WILL NOT BE TOUCHING, BECAUSE IT'S VERY SIMPLE, IT'S VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD. AND IT'S WHAT WHAT'S IN STATUTE.
SO THE EVALUATION AND APPRAISAL REVIEW PROCESS, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
THIS IS THE TIME WHEN WE IDENTIFY LOCAL ISSUES, LOCAL CONCERNS.
STATUTES SAY YOU HAVE TO DO THIS EVERY SEVEN YEARS.
EVERY LOCAL GOVERNMENT. SO YOU'RE WHAT'S GOING ON NOW.
WHAT ARE OUR LOCAL ISSUES NOW? THROUGH A PUBLIC OUTREACH PROCESS, WE'RE REACHING OUT TO THE PUBLIC.
I'VE DONE SEVERAL ONE ON ONE INTERVIEWS. MR. CASTLE BEING ONE OF THEM TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS THE COMMUNITY VISION, WHAT IS HAPPENING. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO IN AND UPDATE THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES BASED ON A DATA ANALYSIS.
SO WE'RE GOING TO ALSO GO IN AND UPDATE ALL THE DATA.
LOOK AT THOSE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES TO SEE IF THEY'RE CONSISTENT WITH THE LEGISLATION.
BUT THEN ALSO IS THE COMMUNITY'S VISION REFLECTED IN THAT.
SO EVALUATING THE PLAN IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE CONDITIONS DO CHANGE.
OKAY. SO I CREATED A WORD CLOUD FROM ALL OF THIS, THIS DATA THAT I HAVE GATHERED.
WHAT MAY BE IMPORTANT TO ONE PERSON MAY BE ROADS ARE MORE IMPORTANT TO SOMEONE.
WELL, HOUSING IS MORE IMPORTANT TO SOMEONE ELSE.
SO THESE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT AS I GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, SO IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS, THROUGH THE PUBLIC SURVEY, AND WE'VE NOW HAD TWO PUBLIC WORKSHOPS, THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT WERE THAT ARE CONSIDERED LIKE LOCAL ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT. SO RATIONAL BOUNDARY. SOMEONE TOLD ME IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY HELD UP THE MAP AND SHOT A SHOTGUN, AND THAT'S WHERE THE CITY BOUNDARIES ARE. SO, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT HOW DO YOU CREATE MORE RATIONAL BOUNDARY? IS IT STRATEGIC ANNEXATION? IF YOU'RE DOING THAT, YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
IF YOU'RE ANNEXING PROPERTIES INTO THE CITY, IS IT SMART? IS IT GOING TO COST YOU MORE TO DO THAT OR DOES IT MAKE SENSE? I'M SERVICING THIS HOUSE, THIS HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET.
SO PROPER DEVELOPMENT OF PROPER USES IN THE PROPER PLACES.
THIS IS AN EXACT QUOTE. SO ARE WE PUTTING OUR COMMERCIAL WHERE IT BELONGS? ARE WE PUTTING OUR RESIDENTIAL WHERE IT BELONGS? IF WE ARE GOING TO DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE'RE NOT GOING TO LOCATE IT WAY OUT IN THE WEST IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THAT'S LOWER INCOME FAMILIES. NOW, NOW, DO THEY HAVE TO PURCHASE TWO VEHICLES TO GET TO WORK, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IS IT NEAR? YOU KNOW, YOU WANT THINGS NEAR THE SERVICES.
YOU WANT THINGS NEAR TRANSPORTATION ENSURING THE ZONING AND LAND USE IS CONSISTENT.
SO WE WILL LOOK AT IT. WE WILL LOOK AT IN YOUR LAND USE WHAT ZONING USES FALL UNDER THAT.
ARE THEY CONSISTENT AND ARE THEY RIGHT? ARE PEOPLE ABLE TO DEVELOP THEIR PROPERTIES WITH THE WAY THAT IT'S WRITTEN? CLEANING UP THE CITY WAS A BIG THING. SO MAIN CORRIDORS, WE KNOW THAT YOU, AS THE CITY DO NOT HAVE CONTROL OVER EVERY ROAD THAT COMES INTO THE CITY, BUT ON THOSE CITY OWNED ROADS, IT WAS IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARRIVED TO THE CITY, THEY KNOW THEY'VE ARRIVED SOMEWHERE SPECIAL. THEY DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO ORANGE AVENUE OR OKEECHOBEE BOULEVARD TO GET TO THE CITY TO SEE HOW SPECIAL IT IS.
ANOTHER IMPORTANT THING WAS SMALL BUSINESS SUPPORT.
THERE IS A LOT OF SUPPORT OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY FOR SMALL BUSINESSES, SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CENTER SBA, THE, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, EVERYBODY HAS PROGRAMS. BUT HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT OUR SMALL BUSINESSES KNOW THAT? BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE START A BUSINESS, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING, RIGHT? I KNOW HOW TO MAKE CUPCAKES, BUT I MAY NOT KNOW HOW TO KEEP MY BOOKS. I MAY NOT KNOW THAT I NEED INSURANCE, OR GETTING THROUGH JUST THE PROCESS OF GETTING LICENSED TO DO THAT, SO PEOPLE NEED THAT HELP. WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THE HOUSING NEEDS IN THE NEXT PRESENTATION.
WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE FOUND OUT ABOUT THAT UPPER TRANSPORTATION GAME.
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SO MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE TRANSPORTATION THAT'S NEEDED FOR ALL CITIZENS PROTECT OUR COASTAL AREAS.AGAIN, THAT'S RESILIENCY MITIGATION. WHAT KIND OF STRATEGIES ARE YOU GOING TO USE TO PROTECT YOUR YOUR COASTLINE, INVOLVE YOUTH? COMMISSIONER GAINES WAS VERY ADAMANT ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THOSE THAT ARE COMING UP, I MEAN, THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO USE THIS PLAN PROBABLY MORE THAN US AT THIS POINT ARE GOING TO BE INVOLVED AND TO GIVE THEIR INPUT AS WELL, AND THEN HAVE INTERGENERATIONAL BALANCE, MAKING SURE THAT THE THINGS THAT WE PROVIDE, BECAUSE WE KNOW OLDER ADULTS WANT TO DRIVE THEIR CARS, KIDS DON'T WANT THAT. IT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF THINGS OF HOW WE, THE DIFFERENT GENERATIONS NEED DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO THE PUBLIC OUTREACH SCHEDULE TO DATE IS WE LAUNCHED A PUBLIC SURVEY.
WE RAN IT FROM JULY 24TH THROUGH SEPTEMBER 5TH.
I COMPILED ALL THAT INFORMATION. I DO HAVE THAT, IF YOU'D LIKE IT.
IT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CITY. WE DID A PUBLIC WORKSHOP ON AUGUST 6TH, JUST KICKING OFF THE PROCESS TO EXPLAIN WHY, WHAT YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING. AND THEN LAST WEEK WE HAD THE FOLLOW UP PUBLIC WORKSHOP TO THAT.
I PRESENTED THIS PRESENTATION THIS MORNING TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE ANY INPUT THEY WOULD OR ANY DIRECTION AND GUIDANCE.
AND THEN ON THURSDAY, I'LL BE MEETING WITH THE YOUTH COUNCIL.
SO WE JUST WANT TO GET THEIR PERSPECTIVE AS WELL AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
LEGISLATIVE CONSISTENCY. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE MY JOB.
I'M GOING TO GO BACK IN 2019. YOU DID THIS YEAR PROCESS.
SO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE LEGISLATION SINCE THAT TIME.
IS THE PLAN NOW CONSISTENT? DO WE NEED TO ADD ANYTHING TO THE PLAN? LOOKING AT THOSE NEEDS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED FROM THE PUBLIC, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT.
HOW DOES THAT FIT INTO THAT? AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH STRIKE THROUGH AN UNDERLYING OF THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES THAT YOU WILL LOOK AT FIRST AND REVIEW.
AND THEN YOU WILL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AS WE MOVE TO THE COUNCIL TO DO THE FINAL TRANSMISSION TO THE STATE, WHICH WILL HAPPEN IN JANUARY. JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF LEGISLATIVE CHANGES.
WE'VE ALL HEARD ABOUT SB 180. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT.
AS I GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE'RE GOING TO BE KEEPING THIS IN MIND.
THE DISCUSSION WE HAD THIS MORNING IS THAT THIS IS EVER CHANGING AND EVOLVING. SO WHEN NEW LEGISLATION IS OFFERED MANY TIMES THERE'S TWEAKS AND THINGS WE DO LIKE LIVE LOCAL, ACT. WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THAT. WE'RE IN ITERATION THREE.
UPDATING THE MAP SERIES, THERE ARE SEVERAL MAPS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY STATUTE.
SO WE HAVE THOSE THOSE HAVE BEEN UPDATED. THAT WILL BE PART OF THIS PROCESS.
NEXT STEPS. THIS IS GOING TO BE MY OFFICE FOR THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS.
I'M GOING TO BE LOOKING THROUGH ALL PLANS, REPORTS LOOKING THROUGH LEGISLATION DATA AND ANALYSIS, LOOKING AT THAT AND SEEING HOW IT FITS IN WITH THE COMP PLAN.
I'M GOING TO REVIEW EACH ELEMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LEGISLATIVE UPDATES, BUT THEN MAKING SURE THAT THE VISION IS BOUGHT INTO THAT AS WELL.
IT WILL COME BACK TO YOU FOR APPROVAL AND THEN GO TO THE CITY COMMISSION IN JANUARY.
SO THAT'S A QUICK SYNOPSIS OF THE PROCESS. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. NOT APPEAR. WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU AT THIS TIME.
OKAY. SO I AM AVAILABLE. EVERYBODY AND PLANNING KNOWS HOW TO GET AHOLD OF ME.
WE EMAIL QUITE REGULARLY. SO THEY CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING, IF YOU WANT TO BE INTERVIEWED SEPARATELY, I'M AVAILABLE TO DO THAT AS WELL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MISS HEIGHT. YOU'RE WELCOME. ALL RIGHT.
AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX B HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT PRESENTATION.
[b. Housing Needs Assessment Presentation Stephanie Heidt, Treasure Coast Regional Planning Council]
OKAY. HELLO. TREASURE COAST REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL.OKAY. WHEN I WAS SPEAKING WITH MR. CASTLE. WE TALKED ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND HE SAYS, I JUST WISH WE KNEW MORE ABOUT WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE.
SO FULL DISCLAIMER. THIS IS NOT MY PRESENTATION.
I AM A LIAISON THAT WAS TRAINED, SO HOPEFULLY I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
BUT IT WAS JUST KIND OF BEFORE YOU GET THE REPORT.
AND I BELIEVE THE STAFF IS GOING TO GIVE YOU A COPY OF THAT HOUSING NEEDS REPORT.
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MR. CASTLE JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GET A LITTLE VIEW.WHAT IS IT LIKE? JUST DON'T HAND US SOMETHING, GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION.
SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO A QUICK RUN THROUGH ON THAT.
SO IN 2023 THEY DID THE THE CONSULTANT THAT WAS HIRED BY THE COUNTY DID A SURVEY.
OVER 1900 RESPONSES WERE RECEIVED. AND THIS IS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS HOW DIFFICULT IS IT TO AFFORD HOUSING IN THE COUNTY AND IN THE CITY. SO OVERALL, 60% OF THE RESPONDENTS STATED THAT IT WAS DIFFICULT.
MULTIFAMILY 70%. AND THEN IN THE RENTAL UNITS IT WAS 80%.
AND THEY WERE ALSO ASKED TO LIKE, IF YOU'RE CONSIDERING MOVING, WHY ARE YOU CONSIDERING MOVING OUT? AND IT WASN'T JUST THE COST OF HOUSING, IT WAS ALSO THE COST OF INSURANCE AND TAXES AS WELL.
SO WHY IS HOUSING GETTING MORE EXPENSIVE? LOTS OF REASONS.
MORTGAGE INTEREST RATES ARE AN ALL TIME HIGH. THEY ARE COMING DOWN. THEY'RE NOT COMING DOWN QUICKLY. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO BE DEALING WITH FOR A WHILE. BUT THEY WILL BE COMING DOWN. FINGERS CROSSED. INSURANCE AND PROPERTY RATES.
WE DON'T CONTROL INSURANCE. THAT'S CONTROLLED AT THE STATE LEVEL.
SO INSURANCE RATES FLORIDA IS NUMBER ONE IN THE NATION FOR INSURANCE PREMIUMS, DEVELOPMENT COSTS.
I HAVE SOME STATISTICS FROM 2020 TO 2022. CONCRETE.
THE COST OF CONCRETE INCREASED 15%. LUMBER 16%, AND STEEL 22%.
SO YOU KNOW, THOSE DEVELOPMENT COSTS AS THAT GOES OUT, THAT GETS BUILT INTO THE HOUSE AND OF COURSE, SUPPLY AND DEMAND. WE'VE HAD A BIG INCREASE IN OUR POPULATION.
SO MORE DEMAND WITH A LESS SUPPLY OF OF COURSE, GOING TO MAKE MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE EXPENSIVE.
SO FORT PIERCE HOUSING COSTS. NOW THIS COMES OUT OF THE PLAN FROM 2020 TO 2022, THE EFFECTIVE RENT RATE WAS $286 A MONTH INCREASE. MEDIAN SALE PRICE FROM THAT TIME PERIOD IS 93,000 INCREASE, AND 42% OF THE HOUSEHOLDS IN FORT PIERCE WERE COST BURDENED. NOW, COST BURDEN MEANS WHEN YOU HAVE 30% OR MORE OF YOUR MORE THAN 30% OF YOUR INCOME GOES TO HOUSING COSTS, THAT'S MORTGAGE, RENT, UTILITIES, INSURANCE, REPAIRS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO HERE IT IS AGAIN JUST KIND OF SHOWING. WE HAVE SOME STATISTICS HERE.
HOLD ON. IN THE TEN YEAR PERIOD OF 2012 TO 2022 THE MEDIAN SALE PRICE ROSE 160% JUST THE TWO YEAR PERIOD FROM 2020 TO 2022.
24.5% INCREASE IN SALE PRICING AND THEN WASN'T QUITE AS BAD FOR RENTAL.
SO RENTAL WENT UP IN THAT TEN YEAR PERIOD, 54.9%.
AND THEN FROM 2020 TO 2022, IT WAS 31% INCREASE IN RENTAL.
SO WHAT'S COMPLICATING THE ISSUE? EASILY SAID WAGES ARE NOT KEEPING PACE WITH THE PRICE IN THE RATE OF INCREASE IN HOUSING COSTS. SO IN SAINT LUCIE COUNTY, THIS IS THE WHOLE COUNTY.
YOU HAD ALMOST 5000 NET DEFICIT OF HOUSING UNITS FOR UNDER 60% AMI AMI IS THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME. SO IT'S THE MIDPOINT OF WHERE THE INCOME IS.
17 OF 20 OF THE TOP OCCUPATIONS EARN LESS THAN 59.
THREE SO THAT WAS THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME FOR A ONE PERSON HOUSEHOLD.
AND 58% OF THE WORKERS IN INDUSTRIES ARE WAGE LESS THAN $24 AN HOUR.
SO IT'S HALF HALF OF MORE THAN HALF OF THE POPULATION.
SO JUST LOOKING AT A FEW OF THOSE ESSENTIAL WORKERS WITH THAT MEDIAN INCOME.
SO THE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THESE WORKERS, THE PERCENTAGE OF THEIR MONTHLY INCOME THAT WOULD GO TO A MEDIUM ONE BEDROOM RENTAL IN SAINT LUCIE COUNTY A HOME HEALTH OR PERSONAL AIDE, WE'D BE SPENDING 80% OF THEIR SALARY ON THEIR HOUSING COSTS.
RETAIL SALESPERSONS, 68, FIREFIGHTERS, 33. SO EVERYBODY'S PRETTY MUCH OVER.
OTHER THAN REGISTERED NURSES ARE OVER THAT 30% COST BURDENED INCOME.
THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE HAVING TO LIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE AND COMMUTE IN. AND WHEN WE HAVE EMERGENCIES, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THESE PEOPLE, THESE TYPES OF JOBS IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
AND HERE QUICKLY. SO THE EXPENSE OF HOUSING IMPACTS THE COMMUNITY, THE COST OF LIVING WHEN YOU HAVE LESS MONEY TO SPEND, AFTER YOU'VE DONE ALL YOUR HOUSING COSTS, YOU HAVE LESS MONEY TO SPEND WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. HEALTH PEOPLE WILL PUT OFF HEALTH THINGS AND MAYBE NOT EAT THE HEALTHIEST OF FOODS. ABILITY TO FILL JOBS AND BUSINESS EXPANSION.
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SO IT'S HARD TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES TO YOUR AREA IF COMPANIES COMING AND LET'S SAY THE EDC IS TALKING TO THEM AND THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, WHERE ARE MY WORKERS GOING TO LIVE? THERE'S NOWHERE AFFORDABLE HERE FOR ME TO COME AND TO START MY BUSINESS.AND THEN THIS, OF COURSE, WILL LEAD TO A RISK OF INCREASED HOMELESSNESS.
SO WHAT CAN DIFFERENT HOUSING LOOK LIKE. SO YOU HAVE SMALL HOMES.
THOSE ARE YOUR FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS. MAYBE YOUR YOUR COUPLES STARTING OUT WITHOUT ANY KIDS.
LOW TO MID INCOME OR MAYBE EVEN IT'S YOUR EMPTY NESTERS.
SO KIDS HAVE MOVED OUT. NOW THEY'RE GOING TO GO INTO A SMALLER HOME DUPLEXES AND TOWNHOMES.
THIS KIND OF GIVES A LESS EXPENSIVE OPTION FOR PEOPLE TO STILL FEEL LIKE THEY'RE IN SORT OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WITH LESS COST AND ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. WE LIKE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS HAVE BEEN AROUND SINCE THE 70S, RIGHT? REMEMBER, HAPPY DAYS. MAYBE MOST OF YOU DON'T.
BUT A LOT OF TIMES, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF BAD THINGS OUT THERE SAID ABOUT ADUS, SO.
BUT THIS IS GREAT. IF YOU HAVE YOUR ADULT CHILDREN COMING BACK FOR COLLEGE, THEY CAN LIVE THERE UNTIL THEY CAN GET ON THEIR FEET. OR MAYBE EVEN YOUR PARENTS MIGHT MOVE INTO THERE. SO IT MIGHT BE A SENIOR HOUSING OPTION.
IT ACTUALLY INCREASES PROPERTY VALUES, RIGHT? AS YOU HAVE PEOPLE WITH HOME OWNERSHIP THE ESTHETICS THAT ARE REQUIRED IS GOING TO INCREASE YOUR PROPERTY VALUES.
AND HAVING A HIGHER DENSITY OF UNITS CAN PROVIDE COST SAVINGS.
VIBRANT COMMUNITIES. IT FOSTERS A SENSE OF COMMUNITY.
PEOPLE ARE PROUD OF THEIR COMMUNITY. THEY'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. PHYSICAL AND MENTAL. MENTAL BENEFITS.
YOU'RE NOT STRESSED BECAUSE YOU'RE SPENDING 50, 60% OF YOUR INCOME ON YOUR HOUSING AND IMPROVE EDUCATIONAL ADVANCEMENT BECAUSE KIDS ARE NOW ABLE TO HAVE A HOME, GO TO A HOME, THEY'RE NOT MOVING AROUND, THEY'RE NOT BEING DISPLACED.
SO IT PROVIDES SOME COHESION IN THEIR LIVES AS WELL.
IF YOU'RE MAINTAINING YOUR POPULATION, IT MAKES IT EASIER TO RETAIN WORKERS IN JOBS.
THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE. THEY'RE EVERYDAY PEOPLE.
THEY'RE US. SO SOME OF THE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES OUT THERE THAT THE CITY PARTICIPATES IN, WELL, WE HAVE HOME INVESTMENT SHIP SELF-SUFFICIENCY PROGRAMS, ALL THESE PROGRAMS THAT THEY OFFER HOMEOWNERSHIP, THEY OFFER EDUCATION, THEY OFFER REHABILITATION FOR HOMES.
AND THEN HABITAT FOR HUMANITY. OF COURSE, WE CAN ALWAYS PARTNER WITH THEM TO, TO BUILD HOMES.
SO WE GOT TO REMEMBER TOO, THERE'S THINGS GOVERNMENT CAN DO, THINGS GOVERNMENT CANNOT DO. SO GOVERNMENT CAN ADVOCATE TO HIGHER LEVELS TO TO GET PROGRAMS, TO GET POLICIES IN PLACE THAT WILL CREATE MORE OF THOSE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CONTINUE TO INVEST IN SOCIAL OR INTO HOUSING SOLUTIONS.
THEY CAN ALSO PARTNER WITH PRIVATE DEVELOPERS TO DO THAT.
GOVERNMENTS CANNOT REGULATE THE POPULATION GROWTH.
WE CAN'T SAY WHO CAN COME IN, WHO CAN COME OUT, HOW MANY CHILDREN YOU CAN HAVE.
IT DOES NOT DETERMINE INTEREST RATES CONTROLLED.
IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO ALSO PEOPLE THERE CAN BE SUPPORT TO EMPLOYEES COMPANIES CAN OFFER RELOCATION ASSISTANCE, DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, HIGHER WAGES TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD ADVOCACY ADVOCACY AS WELL, ALONG WITH THE CITY FOR THINGS LIKE LOWER INSURANCE PREMIUMS. AND THEN THEY CAN INVEST IN OR EVEN BUILD HOUSING FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES.
SO THE PLAN, THE HOUSING PLAN THAT WAS DONE IN AND COMPLETED IN 2024 HAS THREE BASICALLY LARGE STRATEGIC SECTIONS TO INCREASE THE HOUSING SUPPLY, DIVERSIFY A HOUSING MIX AND THEN INCREASE AFFORDABILITY.
HERE ARE THE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE SUGGESTED.
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SO IT'S GOOD TO KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE AND WHAT YOU CAN PRESERVE, WHAT YOU NEED REQUIRE INCENTIVES FOR CREATING AFFORDABLE NEW HOMES SO YOU CAN INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPERS TO INCLUDE IN THEIR DEVELOPMENTS AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS WELL.EXPLORE THE POSSIBILITY FOR FOR ADUS AND SEE THAT THEY'RE NOT THAT BAD.
EXPLORE OPTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR COMMUNITY LAND TRUST.
THOSE ARE PUBLIC OWNED LANDS THAT USUALLY FALL UNDER NOT NOT THE CITY, BUT UNDER.
YOU WILL HIRE SOMEONE TO COME IN. YOU OWN THE LAND AND THEN PEOPLE BUILD ON THE LAND.
SO THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE LAND BECOME THAT PERSON'S.
BUT IT'S A LOWER COST BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT INVESTING IN THE LAND AS WELL AS IN THE HOUSE.
AND THEN WHEN YOU SELL THE HOUSE, IT STAYS AFFORDABLE AND YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD SO YOU CAN STILL BUILD EQUITY, NOT AS QUICKLY, BUT YOU'RE STILL BUILDING EQUITY IN YOUR IN OWNING YOUR OWN HOME.
AND THEN EXPAND DEDICATED HOUSING STAFF AND RESOURCES.
SO AGAIN, THIS WAS NOT MY PRESENTATION, BUT I WAS HAPPY TO SHARE IT WITH YOU.
THE PLAN IS GOING TO BE DISTRIBUTED BY STAFF TO YOU.
AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER.
YOU'VE GOT IT. GOOD. ALICIA'S ON IT. ALWAYS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MISS HEIGHT.
BOARD, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PRESENTATION YOU'D LIKE TO ASK AT THIS TIME? IS THERE ANY MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE ADUS AND OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE IMPLEMENTED THEM IN THE REPORT? WE ARE ACTUALLY AT THE REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL.
WE'VE BEEN ASKED BY OUR BOARD TO START LOOKING AT THAT.
SO WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER DIFFERENT ADUS. WHAT'S WORKING IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, WHAT THEY HAVE.
I KNOW, LIKE IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, THEY HAVE THINGS LIKE THEY WILL PERMIT.
THIS IS WHAT A PERMITTED ADU LOOKS LIKE. SO PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PART OF THE PROCESS. THEY COME IN. THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO BUILD. IT'S APPROVED BY THE CITY ALREADY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT SORT OF SPEEDS UP THAT PROCESS.
BUT YEAH, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OTHER COMMUNITIES AND HOW IS THAT WORKING? SO WE CAN SHARE THAT WITH YOU WHEN WE GET THAT.
GREAT. THANK YOU. I WAS GOING TO ASK THE SAME QUESTION.
SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST IN THAT.
AS YOU DELVE INTO IT. WE'D LIKE TO HEAR BACK.
THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS YOU SAID WE HAVE A DEFICIT OF 4789 UNITS, AND BASED ON THAT, AND YOU REFERRED TO IT AS HOUSING UNITS. IT'S IT'S HOUSING UNITS, I BELIEVE IT WAS OF THOSE HOUSING UNITS FOR 60% AMI AND BELOW. THERE WE GO. LESS THAN 60%.
SO THAT'S THE VERY, YOU KNOW, LOWER INCOME, VERY LOW INCOME AT 65,000.
WHAT'S THE GROSS NUMBER. IF WE'RE SHORT 4800.
WHAT DO WE HAVE? I DO NOT KNOW. I WILL, I'LL LOOK IT UP, THOUGH, IN THE REPORT.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF DATA IN THE REPORT THAT I DIDN'T GO OVER.
SO LET ME LOOK THAT UP AND I WILL. I WILL GET BACK TO YOU.
MISS HEIGHT, WHEN YOU ARE RESEARCHING THE ADU ISSUE PLEASE COME BACK WITH SOME VERY SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS TO OUR ZONING CODES. I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN AN ITEM THAT'S COME UP IN DISCUSSION WITH THIS BOARD NUMEROUS TIMES.
YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY DO WE, YOU KNOW, LACK ANY KIND OF INCENTIVE PROGRAM OR STREAMLINED PROCESS, WE ALSO REALLY DON'T LITERALLY HAVE A DEFINITION FOR AN ADU IN OUR CURRENT ZONING CODES.
SO RECOMMENDATIONS FROM YOU ON THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
WE APPRECIATE IT. AND WE WILL BE CONTACTING YOU WITH ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
OKAY. AND I DO ENCOURAGE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN INTERVIEWING WITH MISS HITE.
AS I DID, I THINK OUR INSIGHTS ARE VERY, VERY VALUABLE TO THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. FOR THE RECORD, CHAIR, MR. EDWARDS ENTERED THE MEETING AT 2:02 P.M., I NOTICED THAT.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX C ANNEXATION.
[c. PZANN2025-00004 Annexation Goose Development Parcel ID: 2434-501-0004-000-5]
MISS DRIVER HAS THE PRESENTATION.[00:30:07]
GOOD AFTERNOON. ALRIGHTY.ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS, ON BEHALF OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, WE BRING BEFORE YOU AN ANNEXATION FOR GOOSE DEVELOPMENT FUND, LLC, WHERE THE APPLICANT IS KEITH TEAM, REPRESENTED BY SEBASTIAN URENA, PROPERTY OWNERS OF GOOSE DEVELOPMENT FUND, LLC.
PARCEL ID IS 243450100040005. IN SUMMARY, THERE IS A REQUEST FOR REVIEW OF VOLUNTARY APPLICATION FOR ONE ANNEXATION PARCEL, WHICH IS LOCATED AT OR NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF EAST MARKET AVENUE AND SOUTH US HIGHWAY ONE. THE SITE AREA IS APPROXIMATELY .03 ACRES.
HERE'S A MAP OUTLINING THE CITY BOUNDARIES AS WELL AS THE ZONES OF THE CITY BOUNDARIES.
PURSUANT TO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICY, 1.11.5 PROPERTIES ANNEXED SHALL RECEIVE A LAND USE DESIGNATION COMPATIBLE WITH THE COUNTY LAND USE DESIGNATION, UNLESS OTHERWISE APPROVED BY THE CITY COMMISSION.
STAFF HAS CONFIRMED THAT THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN AN UNINCORPORATED SAINT LUCIE COUNTY, AND IS CONTIGUOUS TO THE FORT PIERCE CITY MUNICIPAL BOUNDARY AND WITHIN THE FĆR SERVICE AREA.
FURTHERMORE, PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 171 .046, SUBSECTION ONE OF THE FLORIDA STATUTE, WHEREAS THE LEGISLATURE RECOGNIZES THAT ENCLAVES CAN CREATE SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS IN PLANNING, GROWTH MANAGEMENT, AND SERVICE DELIVERY, AND THEREFORE DECLARES THAT IT IS THE POLICY OF THE STATE TO ELIMINATE ENCLAVES. THE CURRENT TAXABLE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY IS 34,991.
THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE IN THE COUNTY IS COM COMMERCIAL.
IF APPROVED, THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE WILL BE MODIFIED TO GC GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
THE EXISTING ZONING IN THE COUNTY IS CG COMMERCIAL.
GENERAL. IF APPROVED, THE ZONING WILL BE MODIFIED TO THE CITY.
SEE THREE. GENERAL. COMMERCIAL. HERE'S A FUTURE LAND USE COMPARISON CHART JUST TO OUTLINE WHAT RESIDENTIAL WOULD LOOK LIKE ON THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION. SO AGAIN, THE SITE AREA IS 2.03 ACRES, WHICH COMES TO ABOUT 88,426FT².
AGAIN, THE EXISTING SAINT LUCIE COUNTY FUTURE LAND USE IS COM, WHICH IS COMMERCIAL AND OFFERS NO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, WITH THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE CHANGE INTO GENERAL COMMERCIAL FOR THE CITY.
THE MAXIMUM DENSITY ALLOWED WOULD BE 15 WHICH COMES UP TO 3015 PER ACRE.
SO AS WE REMEMBER LAST MONTH ON SEPTEMBER 8TH, THIS SAME ANNEXATION CAME BEFORE PLANNING BOARD.
PLANNING BOARD SPOKE AND WE LISTENED. THEREFORE, WE HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THE APPLICANT AND WE WAS ABLE TO COME BACK WITH THE MODIFIED FUTURE LAND USE, WHICH IS COMMERCIAL, AND THE ZONING, WHICH IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
AGAIN, STAFF HAS CONFIRMED THAT THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN UNINCORPORATED SAINT LUCIE COUNTY AND IS CONTIGUOUS TO FORT PIERCE MUNICIPAL BOUNDARY AND WITHIN A FIRE SERVICE AREA. THEREFORE, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT PLANNING APPROVE THE VOLUNTEER ANNEXATION WITH A GENERAL COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE AND GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING. ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATIONS WILL BE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS OR RECOMMEND DISAPPROVAL.
AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WE TABLED THE WE DID.
SO YEAH. BECAUSE WE WERE THERE WAS CONCERN WITH THE ORIGINAL ZONING AND FUTURE LAND USE.
CONSIDERING THE POTENTIAL FOR THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO NOT GO THROUGH AND THIS PARCEL GETTING SOLD OFF INDIVIDUALLY WE DIDN'T LIKE THE IDEA OF A RESIDENTIAL ZONING DIRECTLY ON US. ONE IN THE CASE THAT SOMETHING LIKE THAT MIGHT HAPPEN.
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FOR THE POTENTIAL OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BEING BUILT ON US.ONE AT SOME POINT. IS THERE IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? NO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. WE HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT LAST MONTH.
YOU KNOW IT. FROM MY OPINION, OUR PRIMARY CONCERN HAS BEEN ADDRESSED VERY WELL WITH THE WORK THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THE APPLICANT HAVE DONE. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I SAID, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THE APPLICANT WANT TO SPEAK? THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
THEY'RE CERTAINLY WELCOME TO COME UP AND DO SO. THANK YOU, MISS CLEMENS.
WELCOME. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN AND BOARD. I THINK HARRY EXPLAINED THE SITUATION WELL, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. SEBASTIAN. WITH KEITH REPRESENTING GOOSE DEVELOPMENT FUND, LLC. I BELIEVE CAREY DID A GOOD JOB AT EXPLAINING THE WHOLE SITUATION.
I DID HAVE A PRESENTATION, JUST IN CASE. ANYTHING ANY OTHER DETAIL GOT MISSED IN THIS DISCUSSION.
BUT WE DID TALK BACK AND FORTH, AND WE WILL GO WITH THE COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING.
QUESTION ABOUT IT. THERE'S A COMMUNITY BEING DEVELOPED.
FAIRLY CLOSE TO THIS. AND THE FRONT OF IT IS RESIDENTIAL.
FOR THAT, REPEAT THE QUESTION. THERE'S ANOTHER COMMUNITY GOING IN FAIRLY CLOSE AND THEIR FRONTAGE IS RESIDENTIAL COMMON. WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN THE FRONT OF A COMMUNITY TO HAVE COMMERCIAL OR THAT DESIGNATION? TO BE HONEST, I CANNOT SPEAK ON THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT MY PROJECT, SO I WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT IT TO SEE THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK MAYBE IT KEPT THE COUNTY'S LAND USE IF IT ONCE WAS IN THE COUNTY, BUT I'M NOT SURE I WOULD HAVE TO PULL IT UP TO SEE WHAT THE ZONING WAS TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK ON IT.
DID YOU? YEAH, I BELIEVE THE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE APPLICANT'S NEXT STEP TO, YOU KNOW, ONCE THIS PROPERTY IS ANNEXED AND GOING THROUGH A PLAN DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION, THERE'S THERE'S A NEED, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONLY A CERTAIN NUMBER OF ZONING AND FUTURE LAND USES THAT ARE PERMITTED FOR THEM TO ENCLOSE EVERYTHING IN ONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, ALL THERE ARE OTHER PARCELS ARE WHAT WAS IT RL I THINK YES.
RIGHT. SO THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO ANNEX THIS ONE AS RL AS WELL.
AND, YOU KNOW, OUR CONCERN WAS JUST THAT IF THEY ENDED UP NOT GOING FORWARD WITH THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND THE PROPERTIES GOT SOLD OFF, WE'D BE ANNEXING A PROPERTY INTO RL THAT WE WOULD NEVER AGREE TO AS A STANDALONE.
BUT CONSIDERING THAT, YOU KNOW, THEIR PLAN TO GO THROUGH A PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND THAT PARCEL WOULD BE PRIMARILY USED TO BE YOUR ROADWAY ENTRANCE INTO THE COMMUNITY, CORRECT? YEAH. GIVE ME ONE SECOND. THEY'RE GOING TO BRING UP MY PRESENTATION SO I CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE CLARITY.
CAN YOU PLEASE SIGN IN? CAN YOU PLEASE SIGN IN? THANK YOU. I COULD BE WRONG, MR. JOHNSON, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE. THAT ZONING ON THAT OTHER PROJECT IS AFTER THE PD WAS APPROVED, AND IT GETS THAT DESIGNATION.
AND THEN THEY CAN GO FOR THAT. RIGHT? SO THROUGH THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, EVERYTHING GETS BROUGHT INTO THE SAME FUTURE LAND USE, BUT IT'S TIED TO THAT SPECIFIC PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
AND IF THAT PLAN DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T GO THROUGH, EVERYTHING REVERTS BACK.
AND, YOU KNOW, A BRAND NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
YOU WANT TO SIT DOWN? RADKE. SO THIS IS SORT OF AN AERIAL OF THE GOOSE DEVELOPMENT.
ANNEXATION PARCEL. LOOKING ON US, ONE LOOKING EAST.
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SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND AGAIN, THE OWNER IS GOOSE DEVELOPMENT FUND, LLC.THE ACREAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 2.6 ACRES. HERE IT IS FRONTING US ONE.
THIS IS AN ALLEYWAY FROM THE PLAT AND ANOTHER ALLEYWAY FROM THE PLAT.
SO A BACKGROUND FROM THE PROJECT, AND I'LL THINK A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION BETWEEN EVERYONE.
IS THAT GOOSE DEVELOPMENT FUND HAS THE PARCELS, AS YOU SEE, OUTLINED IN RED.
THE THE OTHER ONES HAVE RESIDENTIAL LOW ZONING AND FUTURE LAND USE.
THE REASON WE WANTED AT THE BEGINNING TO HAVE IT HAVE IT BE THAT WAS TO HAVE IT ALL MATCHING.
BUT OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE OF THE CONCERNS OF THE BOARD ON US.
THIS WOULD BE A MOSTLY RESIDENTIAL PROJECT WITH THAT PARCEL IN RED MAINLY BEING AN ENTRANCE PERHAPS HAVING SOME RESIDENTIAL PARCEL RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS IN THERE, BUT NOT IN ITS ENTIRETY.
MOSTLY ACTING AS A BUFFER BETWEEN US ONE AND RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
SO AGAIN, THE PLAT WAS DONE IN 1925. SO IT'S IT'S AT ITS 100TH BIRTHDAY.
AND IT WAS PLATTED ORIGINALLY AS SMALL LOTS AS YOU CAN SEE HERE.
THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE IN SAINT LUCIE COUNTY IS COMMERCIAL.
THAT'S IT'S FUTURE LAND USE AND COMMERCIAL GENERAL AS ITS ZONING.
MORNING, AND OUR REQUEST WOULD BE TO BOTH TO BOTH BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE LAND USE, THAT IS, THAT IT CURRENTLY HAS IN SAINT LUCIE COUNTY AND COMPATIBLE WITH ITS SURROUNDINGS, IS TO THEN INCORPORATE IT INTO FORT PIERCE WITH A GC AS FUTURE LAND USE AND C3 AS ZONING, SO IT WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH EVERY OTHER PARCEL ON US ONE AND ITS VICINITY.
SO, YOU KNOW, EXPLAINING A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE PROJECT AND NOW UNDERSTANDING HOW WE'RE GOING TO ANNEX IT IN AND HOW THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD WITH STAFF, WE WOULD REQUEST THAT THE PARCEL BE ANNEXED INTO FORT PIERCE.
WE THINK IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING OF ITS SURROUNDINGS.
IT'S CLOSER TO REMOVING AN ENCLAVE, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT THE EVEN IN STATE STATUTES IS SOMETHING THAT THE STATE WANTS TO REMOVE FROM CITIES OF, FROM THEM HAVING ENCLAVES IN THEIR IN THEIR BORDERS AND PROPERTY TAXES.
SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? HEARING NONE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NONE, I WILL SEND IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION.
MY QUESTION IS IF WE IF WE APPROVE THE ANNEXATIONS TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND IT HAS A NUMBER, HAS A CERTAIN DENSITY OF DWELLING UNITS PER UNIT.
I KNOW WE CAN DISCUSS THAT IN THE MASTER PLAN, BUT THAT WAS PART OF THE ISSUE.
I THOUGHT BEFORE, AS FAR AS MAKING SURE THAT WE DO NOT HAVE RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
ON, ON THAT BUSY STREET. RIGHT. SO, SO THAT'S THAT'S SORT OF A.
THAT COMES WITH THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING, WHICH IS CONSISTENT ALL UP AND DOWN US ONE YOU KNOW, GENERAL GENERAL COMMERCIAL INCLUDES SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THEY WOULDN'T BE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, BUT, YOU KNOW THE IDEA IS THAT IT'S NOT.
BUT BUT WE KNOW THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE RIGHT, I GUESS IS MY CONCERN.
RIGHT. WELL, AND I MEAN. YEAH. AND. RIGHT. SO AND WHEN WE GET TO, WHEN THE APPLICANT GETS TO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT STAGE, THERE WILL BE A SITE PLAN REVIEW AND, YOU KNOW, CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY UNITS BEING TOO CLOSE TO THE ROADWAY SETBACKS.
AND THOSE THINGS CAN BE ADDRESSED IN IN SITE PLAN REVIEW.
AND CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, COMPLYING WITH CODE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IS VERY SUBJECTIVE.
YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THIS TIME.
MOTION FOR APPROVAL. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
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HANG ON. WE DO HAVE. DID STAFF HAVE ANY CONDITIONS? I DON'T THINK THERE WAS. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL BY MR. COLLINS. SECOND BY MISS CLEMENS. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.MISS CARTER? YES, MR. EDWARDS? YES, MR. COLLINS.
YES, MA'AM. MR. JOHNSON. YES, MISS CLEMENS. YES, MR. WHITING? YES, CHAIR. CHRISTELL. YES. THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT MOVING ON TO ITEM SIX. D ANOTHER ANNEXATION.
[d. PZANN2025-00005 Annexation - Skylark Drive Parcel ID: 2427-702-0115-000-1]
MR. GILMORE HAS THE PRESENTATION. GOOD AFTERNOON.CHAIRMAN, PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS. WE HAVE PROJECT ID A AND N 2025 000054 SCARLET SKYLARK DRIVE AT OR NEAR 906 CARLOCK DRIVE.
PARCEL ID 2427. THAT'S 7020115-0001.
THE APPLICANT AND OWNER IS BERNARD JONES OF ROUNDHILL DEVELOPMENT GROUP INCORPORATED.
THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING ANNEXATION INTO THE CITY WITH A FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF RM, MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND A CITY ZONING OF R4 MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY HAS A SAINT LUCIE COUNTY.
FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF RESIDENTIAL HIGH AND A SAINT LUCIE COUNTY ZONING OF RM 11, WHICH IS MULTIPLE FAMILY 11 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. TO ENSURE CONSISTENCY WITH POLICY ONE POINT 11.5 OF THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF THE PARCELS IS RM MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WITH A CITY CLASSIFICATION FOR ZONING OF R4 MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
THE CURRENT MAP THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS THE EXISTING CITY LIMITS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE BY ANNEXING THIS PROPERTY, IT WILL INFILL THE EXISTING ENCLAVE.
AND YOU'LL HAVE ONE MORE PARCEL TO FOR ANNEXATION TO CLOSE THAT OUT.
THE SITE AREA IS APPROXIMATELY 0.23 ACRES, PLUS OR MINUS.
THIS IS AN EXISTING CITY AND COUNTY ZONING MAP.
OKAY. THIS IS A MAP OF THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE FOR THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CITY SURROUNDS IT WITH THE R.M.
AND IT HAS RH, WHICH IS COUNTY FUTURE LAND USE.
THIS IS A FUTURE LAND USE COMPARISON FOR MAXIMUM BUILD OUT POTENTIAL.
CURRENTLY THROUGH THE COUNTY, THE APPLICANT COULD BUILD UP TO THREE UNITS MAXIMUM.
BY ANNEXING TO THE CITY. THEY ARE DECREASING BY ONE UNIT.
STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED ANNEXATION.
IT IS CONSISTENT WITH SECTION 125 136 OF CITY CODE AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND DOES NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, CONVENIENCE, AND GENERAL WELFARE. ALTERNATIVE ACTIONS OF THE PLANNING BOARD INCLUDE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH CHANGES OR RECOMMEND DISAPPROVAL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. GILMORE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A PRETTY EASY ONE. DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME? I DON'T PERSONALLY FEEL IT'S NECESSARY TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT ON THIS ONE.
UNLESS YOU DISAGREE WITH ME, TAKE THEIR RIGHTS AWAY.
I. I'M NOT GOING TO DRAG THEM UP HERE. BUT IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND THEY WISH TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. SEEING NONE.
SEEING NONE, I WILL SEND IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR ANY DISCUSSION.
WE ARE INCHING TOWARDS THE GOAL LINE. ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY AT A TIME.
IT'S KIND OF FUNNY THERE. YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
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HEARING NO MORE DISCUSSION, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. AT THIS TIME, I MOVE FOR APPROVAL.SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY MISS CLEMENS.
SECOND, BY MISS CARTER, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MR. EDWARDS. YES, MR. COLLINS? YES, MA'AM. MR. JOHNSON.
YES, MISS. CLEMENS? YES, MR. WHITING. YES, MISS.
CARTER? YES. CHAIR. KISSEL. SO YES. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO ITEM SIX E. FINAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT, UPDATED PROPOSAL, SUNRISE LAKES PD.
[e. PD2024-00002 Final Planned Development (Updated Proposal) Sunrise Lakes PD - Final Site Plan Parcel ID: 2433-123-0001-000-1]
AND OUR NEW ASSISTANT PLANNING DIRECTOR, MR. SWANSON, AM I SAYING THAT CORRECTLY? I'M GOING TO SAY, MR. CHAIR, I AM NOT KEVIN FREEMAN.I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. FOR THE RECORD IN HIS ABSENCE, ON A WELL-DESERVED VACATION HE HAS ASKED ME TO WALK YOU ALL THROUGH A COUPLE OF PROJECTS TODAY. AND SO WE ARE GOING TO START WITH, LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET THIS FULL SCREEN.
BOY, THAT IS NOT THE WAY I WANT THAT TO LOOK.
YEAH. LET'S DO THIS. WHY IS THIS LIKE THIS? OH, THERE WE GO. THERE WE GO. WE ARE HERE THIS AFTERNOON FOR SUNRISE LAKES.
FINAL SITE PLAN. OUR FINAL SITE PLAN. PD 2020 4-00200002.
THE APPLICATION IS LOCATED ALONG SUNRISE DRIVE.
THE APPLICANT IS BLAINE BERGSTRESSER FROM MAYOR ENGINEERING AND SURVEYING FOR HT VENTURES ONE, LLC. AND AGAIN, THAT ADDRESS IS 3804 SUNRISE BOULEVARD, PARCEL ID 2433-12300010001. THIS IS A REVISED APPLICATION.
THE APPLICATION IS PROPOSING REZONING TO FINAL DEVELOPMENT.
OUR FINAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD OF 48 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES ON 11.54 ACRES AT 4.16 UNITS PER ACRE AT 3804 SUNRISE BOULEVARD. THE PROPERTY IS ZONED R1, WHICH IS LESS THAN FOUR UNITS PER ACRE, WITH A FUTURE LAND USE OF RL, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL LOW AT SIX POINT WITH A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 6.5 UNITS PER ACRE.
SITE WAS RECENTLY ANNEXED INTO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.
SITE IS BORDERED BY SINGLE FAMILY RS THREE ZONING ON THE SOUTH AND WEST.
TO THE NORTH OF THE CEMETERY AND TO THE EAST IS THE FDOT BUILDING, BOTH WITH INDUSTRIAL ZONING.
WE HAVE A SITE LOCATION MAP. PARCELS LOCATED IN KIND OF A ORANGY RED.
AGAIN, THE SITE IS. LOCATED SOUTH OF BELL AVENUE ALONG SUN RISE.
THE EXISTING ZONING IS R-1. AND THE PROPOSED ZONING IS PD.
ARE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, SO THERE'D BE NO CHANGE THERE.
AND THIS IS THE SUNRISE LAKE SITE PLAN. AS YOU SEE, THERE'S 48 LOTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF AREA DEDICATED TO AMENITIES AS WELL AS DETENTION FACILITIES IN ORDER TO MITIGATE THEIR STORMWATER.
WHILE WE WON'T BE PARTICULARLY REVIEWING THE APPLICATION FOR THE ARCHITECTURE, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED BOTH ELEVATIONS AND A TYPICAL FLOOR PLAN FOR MODEL HOME. THE PLANNING BOARD, AT THEIR SEPTEMBER 6TH MEETING, RECOMMENDED DISAPPROVAL OF THIS PD BY A VOTE OF 6 TO 1, BY REASON OF A LACK OF A BUS TURNAROUND.
AND A STOP WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AND AN AND NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS.
THEN AT 50. THE REVISED PROPOSAL INCLUDES A SCHOOL BUS TURNAROUND WITH A STOP WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT, A SIDEWALK ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY ON SUNRISE BOULEVARD TO THE INTERSECTION WITH BELLE AVENUE, AND A REDUCTION IN DWELLING UNITS TO 48. BASED ON THESE FINDINGS THAT THE PROPOSAL IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THE PROPOSAL PROMOTES THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE THROUGH SITE DESIGN AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
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THE PROPOSED REVISED APPLICATION MEETS THE STANDARDS OF THE CITY'S CODE SECTION ONE, 25 212 AND 125 314.THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE PLANNING BOARD FORWARDED THE APPLICATION SUBJECT TO THE 12 CONDITIONS, AS NOTED, WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL TO THE CITY COMMISSION.
SO FOR THOSE CONDITIONS, ALL INFRASTRUCTURE, INCLUDING THE PRIVATE LIFT STATION FORCEMAIN ALONG SUNRISE BOULEVARD SCHOOL DISTRICT, SHELTERED BUS STOP, STORMWATER SYSTEM AND SIDEWALK CONNECTING THE PROJECT TO BELL AVENUE ALONG SUNRISE BOULEVARD SHALL BE COMPLETED PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF THE FIRST CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR RESIDENTIAL DWELLING.
THREE THE OPEN SPACE SHALL BE MAINTAINED AT A MINIMUM OF 23% OF THE FINAL PD SITE AREA.
THE DEVELOPMENT NUMBER FOR THE DEVELOPMENT SHALL COMPLY WITH THE PERMITTED DENSITY, INTENSITY AND RESIDENTIAL LOT AND BUILDING HEIGHTS, AS OUTLINED IN THE APPROVED SUNRISE LAKES DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND FINAL PD SITE PLAN.
NUMBER SEVEN, A MASONRY WALL WITH A MINIMUM HEIGHT OF SIX FEET, SHALL BE INSTALLED ALONG THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE AS PART OF THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER TO THE INDUSTRIAL USE. PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A CERTIFICATE, THE FIRST CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR RESIDENTIAL DWELLING NUMBER EIGHT, THE FINAL PD SITE PLAN, HEREBY APPROVED, SHALL BE GOVERNED BY ALL AGREEMENTS, PROVISIONS AND COVENANTS WHICH GOVERN THE USE, MAINTENANCE AND CONTINUED PROTECTION OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IN ANY OF ITS COMMON OPEN SPACE AND OTHER SHARED AREAS.
NUMBER 11. A REVISED FINAL SITE PLAN, ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATIONS AND LANDSCAPING SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO OR FOR THE PROPOSED AMENITY CENTER AND NUMBER 12. ALL APPLICABLE STATE OR FEDERAL PERMITS SHALL BE OBTAINED PRIOR TO COMMENCEMENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I'M OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MAY HAVE. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
I THINK WE'LL WE'LL I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE FORCE MANAGEMENT.
I THINK WE CAN WAIT FOR THE APPLICANT TO GET UP HERE. SO HEARING NO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, I WOULD INVITE THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION? GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON. BLAINE BERGSTRESSER ENGINEERING, 1176 25TH STREET, VERO BEACH, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU. DO YOU WANT TO ASK ABOUT THE FORCE BEFORE I START THE PRESENTATION? WE CAN GET TO THAT AFTER.
OH, YOU'RE FINE. LOCATED ON THIS PARCEL THAT WAS IN UNINCORPORATED SAINT LUCIE COUNTY.
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THE WAY WE LOOKED AT IT, WE HAD THE CEMETERY TO THE NORTH AND THE FDOT CENTER TO THE EAST.SO WE THOUGHT THIS WAS A PERFECT TRANSITION ZONE FOR A TOWNHOME PROJECT.
AND THEN WE WENT THROUGH THE SITE PLAN PROCESS WITH THE CITY.
WE CAME TO THIS BOARD BACK IN MAY OF 2025 WITH THE PREVIOUS SITE PLAN WAS APPROVED FIVE ZERO.
WE LISTENED TO SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS WHEN IT CAME TO THE BUS STOP BEING ONE OF THE MAJOR ONES.
SO WE'VE MADE SOME REVISIONS TO THE SITE PLAN, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO BE SHARING WITH YOU GUYS TODAY. SO THIS IS THE UPDATED SITE PLAN FROM OUR LAST MEETING. AS YOU CAN SEE, AND AS STAFF IS PRESENTED, WE HAVE ELIMINATED TWO UNITS THAT WAS ON THE PREVIOUS PLAN, AS WELL AS INCORPORATED A BUS STOP AND A TURNAROUND THAT IS OFF OF SUNRISE BOULEVARD.
WE PRESENTED THIS TO THE SCHOOL BOARD. THEY WERE IN AGREEMENT WITH IT AND JUST ASKED FOR US TO PROVIDE SOME PARKING SPACES FOR PARENTS TO WAIT FOR THEIR CHILDREN WHILE THEY DROP OFF AND DID PICK UP.
SO THIS WAS BROUGHT UP DURING CITY COUNCIL, SO I WANTED TO TOUCH ON IT BRIEFLY.
SO THE INTENT IS ESTABLISH A RESILIENT LIVING AND WORKING ENVIRONMENT THROUGH THE APPLICATION OF ENLIGHTENED AND IMAGINATIVE APPROACHES TO COMMUNITY PLANNING, STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE AND PROPERTY DESIGN. AND WE SHOULD PROVIDE A VARIETY OF NATURAL FEATURES SCENIC AREAS, EFFICIENT AND ECONOMICAL LAND USE, IMPROVED AMENITIES, ORDERLY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND THE PROTECTION OF ADJACENT EXISTING FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. SO IN THIS PRESENTATION, I'VE KIND OF BROKEN IT DOWN FOR EACH OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE LISTED AT THE END.
SO THE FIRST ONE WAS A VARIETY OF NATURAL FEATURES AND SCENIC AREAS.
SO IT WON'T BE JUST YOUR TYPICAL SODDED OPEN SPACE HOLE IN THE GROUND.
THIS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT'LL BE PLANTED WITH DIFFERENT TYPES OF PLANTS.
WHEN IT COMES TO CYPRESS TREES, PALMETTOS AS WELL AS FILLED IN WITH, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, CAP ROCKS AND LARGE ROCKS. ON TOP OF THAT, THE TWO OTHER PONDS WILL BE PLANTED WITH EXISTING SABAL PALMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO RELOCATE ALONG THE BANKS.
THIS BOTTOM RIGHT HAND PHOTO IS JUST KIND OF A RENDER.
WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH CYPRESS TREES AND GRASS PLANTED AT THE BOTTOM, AND THEN THE RELOCATED SABAL PALMS. TALKING WITH STAFF. THEY ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT WE CREATE A WALKING TRAIL ALONG OUR MIDDLE PONDS.
WE'VE ADDED A MULCH POND THAT THE RESIDENTS CAN UTILIZE AROUND THEIR GOING OFF THAT.
SO THIS IS AN UPDATED MITIGATION PLAN THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED TO STAFF.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF EXISTING OAKS, PINES AND SABLES ON THE SITE.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE WE REALLY TRIED TO FOCUS AROUND THE PERIMETERS.
THOSE ARE USUALLY THE AREAS THAT REQUIRE LESS GRADING, MAKE IT EASIER TO SAVE TREES, BUT ALSO IT CREATES A BETTER NATURAL BUFFER THAN YOU CAN FROM JUST PLANTING NEW LANDSCAPING. SO ALONG THE WESTERN PORTION HERE ALONG SUNRISE WE'RE GOING TO BE PRESERVING 26 SABAL PALMS 26 EXISTING OAKS AS WELL AS FIVE TOTAL PINES.
THE BLUE TREES HERE ON THIS PLAN ARE EXISTING SABLE PALMS THAT ARE LOCATED AROUND THE SITE.
WE'RE GOING TO RELOCATE 228 OF THOSE SABLE PALMS, EITHER AROUND THE DRY PONDS OR IN CLUSTERS ALONG THE NORTH AND SOUTH PERIMETER OF THE SITE. THIS ONE REAL QUICK, EFFICIENT AND ECONOMIC LAND USE.
THIS ALLOWS US TO CREATE A MUCH LARGER BUFFER ON THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE.
SO INSTEAD OF THE TYPICAL TEN FOOT BUFFER THAT'S REQUIRED FOR A PD, WE'RE ACTUALLY PROVIDING A 36 FOOT BUFFER BETWEEN THE CLOSEST LOT LINE AND OUR SOUTH PARCEL, OUR SOUTH PROPERTY LINE, WHICH IS WHERE OUR ONLY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBOR IS LOCATED.
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GOING OFF OF THAT, ONE OF THE THINGS IS IMPROVED AMENITIES, I BELIEVE. ON OUR FIRST RENDITION, WHEN WE SUBMITTED THIS TO THE PLANNING BOARD, WE WEREN'T SHOWING ANY AMENITIES.SO WE PROVIDE A DOG PARK A MAIL KIOSK FOR RESIDENTS TO DRIVE UP TO, AS WELL AS A TOT LOT RIGHT HERE NEXT TO LOT 33, AND A POOL AND CLUBHOUSE FOR THE RESIDENTS TO UTILIZE.
RIGHT HERE ACROSS FROM LOT 29. THE BIG TALKING POINT AT THE LAST PLANNING BOARD, LIKE I SAID, WAS THE BUS STOP. SO AS YOU SEE HERE, WE HAVE THE BUS STOP IN THE SAME LOCATION.
OUR PLAN THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH STAFF AND THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, NOW HAS OUR BUS COMING OFF OF SUNRISE PICKING UP KIDS AT THIS BUS STOP AND THEN ALLOWING THE BUS TO COME HERE, MAKE A LOOP, AND THEN EXIT ONTO SUNRISE BOULEVARD.
PROTECTION OF ADJACENT EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS. LIKE I STATED, THE MAIN CONCERN WHEN IT CAME TO HOW WE AFFECT THE NEIGHBORS WAS THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH OF US. SO AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THERE WAS DRAINAGE THAT WAS OCCURRING ALONG THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE.
WE HAVE NOW ARE GOING TO REGRADE THAT DITCH, AS WELL AS PROVIDE A 20 FOOT DRAINAGE EASEMENT IN BETWEEN THAT 20 FOOT DRAINAGE EASEMENT AND THE CLOSEST LOTS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A 16 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
SO WHEN YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT OUR PROJECT'S PROPOSING 15 FOOT REAR YARD SETBACKS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ABOUT 51FT BETWEEN THE CLOSEST HOUSE ON OUR PROJECT AND OUR SOUTH PROPERTY LINE. SO RIGHT HERE IS JUST A TYPICAL BUFFER SECTION SO WE CAN SHOW YOU WHAT THE NEIGHBOR WHAT YOU WOULD SEE COMING ON SUNRISE. SO THIS IS JUST DEPICTING SOME OF THE EXISTING PINES, THE EXISTING OAKS, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE RELOCATED SABAL PALMS THAT WILL BE PLANTING OUR LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALSO INCLUDE THREE FOOT TALL HEDGES, AS WELL AS 12 FOOT TALL UNDERSTORY TREES. SO IT KIND OF GIVES YOU A LAYERED BUFFER BETWEEN SUNRISE AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO IT'S NOT JUST LARGE SPECIMEN TREES THAT YOU COULD KIND OF LOOK UNDER AND SEE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS I WANT TO TOUCH BRIEFLY ON IS THE ADDED BENEFITS. SO WITH TALKING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND STAFF, WE REALLY WANTED TO WE REALIZED THAT THERE'S NOT REALLY MANY SAFE AREAS FOR PICKUP IN THIS AREA.
SO WE'RE ALREADY GOING TO BE ADDING A SIDEWALK ALONG OUR FRONTAGE OF SUNRISE, BUT WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING AN EXTRA 1031FT OF SIDEWALK ALL THE WAY HERE TO BELL AVENUE.
SO THERE'S EXISTING SIDEWALK RIGHT HERE WHERE MY MOUSE IS SHOWN.
SO THIS WOULD ALLOW IF OTHER RESIDENTS IN THE NEARBY NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD LIKE TO UTILIZE OUR BUS STOP, BECAUSE IT MIGHT FEEL A LITTLE BIT SAFER. WE'LL HAVE A SIDEWALK THAT THEY CAN USE TO COME ALL THE WAY HERE.
OR EVEN PARENTS FROM OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS COULD COME HERE, DROP THEIR KIDS OFF, OR PARK RIGHT HERE.
GOING OFF OF THAT, WE'RE ALSO WILL BE EXTENDING A FOUR INCH FORCE MAIN ABOUT 1290 LINEAR FEET ALONG OUR FRONTAGE HERE. CURRENTLY, THE NEIGHBORHOODS RIGHT HERE WHERE MY MOUSE ARE AND EVERYONE DOWN HERE DOES NOT HAVE SANITARY SEWER.
THEY ARE ALL ON SEPTIC BY US EXTENDING THIS FORCE MAIN.
THIS WILL GIVE THEM THE THE OPTION IN THE FUTURE TO EASILY CONNECT TO A CENTRALIZED SANITARY SYSTEM.
AND THEN I HAVE THE DEVELOPER WITH ME, WHO'S ALSO THE CONTRACTOR.
GOOD AFTERNOON. SO JUST TO INTRODUCE MYSELF JOE SHANTE.
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INTEGRITY. FIRST CONSTRUCTION IS THE NAME OF MY COMPANY.I'VE BEEN HERE IN SAINT LUCIE COUNTY FOR ABOUT 18 YEARS.
SO I'M NOT A NATIONAL BUILDER. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN, YOU KNOW, THESE.
CHEAP FOR LACK OF OTHER TERMS. HOMES THAT DON'T PROVIDE ANYTHING TO THE COMMUNITY.
ALTHOUGH THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS. I DO FEEL THAT THE PRODUCT THAT WE HAVE NOW AND THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE WITH PLANNING REALLY GIVES THE BEST THAT I CAN GIVE TO THE COMMUNITY AS FAR AS BUS STOP SAFETY SIDEWALK FORCE MAIN IN THE FUTURE THAT OTHER RESIDENTS COULD USE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS POOL FOR PEOPLE.
I MEAN, THIS IS IT'S I MEAN, IN MY OPINION, ABOVE AND BEYOND ON TOP OF THAT, LIKE THE WAY THAT I BUILD AGAIN, I DON'T DO BIG DEVELOPMENTS. WE PROVIDE METAL ROOFS, YOU KNOW, 25, 30 YEAR WARRANTIES STANDARD.
THERE'S NO UPCHARGES IMPACT WINDOWS ALL PORCELAIN TILE THROUGHOUT, NO CARPET.
I MEAN, IT MIGHT NOT MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU GUYS, BUT IT IS A VALUE TO THE HOMEOWNER, YOU KNOW, NO FORMICA COUNTERTOPS. IT'S ALL QUARTZ. I MEAN, THESE THINGS, THEY'RE VERY NICE HOUSES.
WE'VE DONE ONE BEFORE ON MOHAWK AVENUE, RIGHT OFF OF SAINT LUCIE BOULEVARD.
WE'VE MADE ALL THE CONCESSIONS THAT THE PLANNING HAS ASKED FOR, AS WELL AS MET WITH THE CITY COMMISSIONERS AND LISTEN TO THEM WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPE BUFFERS.
AND SOMEBODY WANTED SIGNAGE UP FRONT AND, AND LIGHTING AND NATURE WALKS AND ALL THAT.
AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE.
OKAY. YEAH. YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION ABOUT THE FORCE.
ME. AND I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE KIND OF THIS START AND STOP OF YOUR SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, BUT YOU LAID IT OUT PRETTY WELL, SO THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? RECONFIRMING WHAT YOU SAID WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD THAT THAT SET UP, THAT ROUNDABOUT, THAT POSITION, THEY THERE'S SOME CONFIRMATION FROM THE BOARD ITSELF THAT THEY REALLY LIKE THAT.
SO I'M TRYING TO GO BACK THOSE PARKING SPACES.
SO THAT WAS MADE AND SENT BACK TO THEM. MR. CHAIR, FOR THE RECORD, THE SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVE TO THE PLANNING BOARD IS HERE AND PRESENT. COULD ASK ANSWER QUESTIONS REGARDING THE TURNAROUND.
AND THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS. OUR OTHER COMMENT THAT WE MADE IS THAT WE NEED AT LEAST 80 TO 100FT ON THAT ROUNDABOUT TO BE ABLE TO BRING IN, TO MAKE THAT TURN. I WAS TRYING TO I DIDN'T SEE THE REVISED WITH THE PARKING ADDED TO THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ZOOM INTO THAT. HAS THAT CHANGED? HERE. RIGHT HERE. YEAH. THE PARKING ADDED RIGHT THERE. YEAH. THE PARKING ADDED, WHICH THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THAT WAS THAT WAS THE OTHER COMMENT THAT WE HAD PROVIDED AND THEN THE TURNING RADIUS AND THE ROUNDABOUT.
WHAT IS IT? I BELIEVE I SENT YOU OVER A A PLAN THAT SHOWED THE BUS ROUTE GOING THROUGH THERE.
WE DID AN AUTO TURN ON IT. I APOLOGIZE, I DID NOT RECEIVE THE TURNING RADIUS, BUT IF IT I MEAN, ON CONDITION THAT THERE IS SHOWING THAT THE BUS CAN MAKE THAT TURN AS WELL, AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH ON THAT ONE.
THAT'S THE ONLY THAT WAS THE ONLY ISSUE ON US IS IF OUR BUS CAN MAKE THAT TURN AROUND.
IF IT DOESN'T, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THE BUS STOP ON SUNRISE BOULEVARD, UNFORTUNATELY.
AND IF YOU COULD FORWARD THAT TURNING RADIUS AGAIN I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
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SO I COULD HAVE IT ON RECORD. YES. WILL DO. THANK YOU.OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. HEARING NONE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE PROCEEDING I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, AS PART OF THE RECORD TWO LETTERS THAT PLANNING STAFF HAS RECEIVED, I BELIEVE ALICIA HAS PROVIDED EACH OF YOU A COPY OF THOSE.
SHE DID. WE WE WERE READING THESE PRIOR TO THE MEETING START.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE PART OF THE RECORD. ONE IS FROM JUDY BEGLIN AT 3950 SUNRISE BOULEVARD, AND THE OTHER IS FROM DEBORAH JOHNS AT 909 WEST WETHERBEE ROAD.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF THIS APPLICATION.
YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. CORRECT. AT THE PODIUM.
PLEASE SIGN IN AND STATE YOUR NAME.
THAT'S MY THREE MINUTES STARTED. NO. OKAY. OKAY.
MY NAME IS DONNA PERRY. I LIVE AT 5080 WEST VIRGINIA DRIVE AND FORT PIERCE, AND MANY OF MY FRIENDS THAT USUALLY COME CAN'T COME TO A 02:00 MEETING. SO I WAS TRYING TO GET IN ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE ME TO ALSO SHARE.
WE ARE CONTINUING TO OPPOSE THE REZONING FROM THE R1, RL TO A PD.
THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS BEAUTIFUL, HAS MANY LARGE OAK TREES.
I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT THEY'RE SAVING MORE, BUT THEY'RE NOT SAVING ALL OF THEM.
THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES. THE LOTS ARE ANYWHERE FROM A QUARTER TO A HALF AN ACRE.
THE PROPOSED PD WOULD HAVE A DENSITY OF 2.4 TIMES THE ALLOWED DWELLINGS FOR THE CURRENT ZONING OF A R1 PRESERVING THE LAND TO PROTECT NATURAL RESOURCES THREATENED ENDANGERED PLANTS AND ANIMALS WITHOUT HAVING ROOFTOPS AND PARKING LOTS VERSUS HAVING LARGER LOTS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HOPE.
NOT ONLY WOULD THIS PROJECT, BUT WITH FUTURE PROJECTS THAT YOU GUYS WOULD CONSIDER.
WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO HAVE OUR PROPERTIES AND OUR AREAS OVERDEVELOPED TO CRAM HOUSES IN ON BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE MOVING, YOU'RE RELOCATING TORTOISES.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER HABITAT THAT DWELL IN THESE PLACES THAT WE'RE MOVING EVERYWHERE? I WE'RE JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HOPE THAT THIS WOULD NOT BE THE CASE.
ANOTHER THING IS, DO WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE A ZONE CHANGE VERSUS BUILDING SOMETHING THAT FITS OUR EXISTING R1, RL THAT WILL GO ALONG WITH THE COMMUNITIES IN THAT AREA? AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT OLEANDER, WHERE THE INDUSTRY IS.
BUT NOW, YOU KNOW, THE THE TRAFFIC IS IMMENSE.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE TO TO SUPPORT THIS PD.
THE LACK OF APPROPRIATE LOT SIZES, THE OVERCROWDED LOCAL SCHOOLS, DRAINAGE ISSUES, THE CONCERN OF EXCESS WATER ENTERING OUR RIVER WHICH CAUSES POOR WATER QUALITY AND FLOODING AND TRAFFIC CONCERNS.
THIS PD DOES NOT PROPOSAL DOES NOT FIT THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
AND AS I SAID, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE OLEANDER.
THIS IS SUNRISE BOULEVARD, AND WE WOULD REALLY HOPE THAT THESE EMPTY LANDS THAT WE KEEP FILLING UP, WE COULD START HAVING LARGER LOTS AND LESS ROOFTOPS AND PARKING LOTS BECAUSE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY WE'RE REALLY LOSING WHAT FORT PIERCE AND WHITE CITY HAS BEEN.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION? HEARING NONE, I WOULD SEND IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
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ABOUT MY CONTINUE. A LOT OF GREAT IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE WITH THIS PLANT SITE.I DO SEE THOSE. MY CONTINUED CONCERN IS, IS THE DENSITY.
AND I GUESS I'M JUST WONDERING HOW HOW STAFF AS WELL LIKE, SEES THIS AS LIKE A, A GOOD THING AS FAR AS THE GENERAL HEALTH AND SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE PEOPLE OF THE AREA. BECAUSE IT IS IT IS INCREASING THE DWELLING UNITS BY BY A LARGE NUMBER. AND THAT WAS ONE OF MY MAIN CONCERNS.
BESIDES THE BUS STOPS. SO I MEAN, IS ANYBODY ON ON THIS BOARD HAVE ANY OPINIONS ON THAT AS FAR AS THE DENSITY? I THINK THE, THE DENSITY LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED THIS, AND I AGREE, IT'S IT'S HIGH. LOOKING AT THE CHANGES THEY'VE MADE AND LOOKING AT FUTURE LAND USE AND TRYING TO PUT THIS TOGETHER YOU KNOW, IF IT JUST WENT FORWARD WITH, WITH WITHOUT BEING A PD MY, MY BEST GUESS IS SOMETHING LIKE 36, 37 HOMES. SO YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S AN INCREASED DENSITY, BUT I THINK THEY'VE MADE A LOT OF, A LOT OF GOOD IMPROVEMENTS ON IT. I THINK IT'S A GOOD PRODUCT, WHICH MATTERS TO ME.
AS FAR AS THE HOMES THAT THEY'RE BUILDING YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES IT COME DOWN TO? 4.16 PER ACRE. WHICH FUTURE LAND USE I THINK IS FOUR, IS THAT CORRECT? SO, I MEAN, THEY'RE THEY'VE GOTTEN CLOSER. I WISH IT WASN'T THERE.
BUT BUT I, I DO HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND I GUESS, LIKE, AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT PRODUCT AS WELL AS FAR AS THE CONSTRUCTION THE AMENITIES, IT'S A BIG IMPROVEMENT FROM WHAT IT WAS.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, OR MY QUESTION IS NOW, DOES THIS SET THE PRECEDENT, THEN, FOR FUTURE LAND USES TO BE USED IN A SIMILAR WAY THAT WE CONTINUE TO INCREASE DENSITY, INCREASE DENSITY? INTENSITY. OTHER LOTS AND OTHER LANDS. JUST BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD PRODUCT AND IT'S A GOOD.
YOU KNOW, HAS GOOD AMENITIES. IT STILL IS STILL THE RIGHT THING TO DO VERSUS HAVE THE CURRENT STATUS REMAIN THE SAME AND THE DEVELOPERS USE WHAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE.
LIKE, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT? I'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS.
NOBODY ON THE BOARD, BUT SINCE SINCE IT CAME ON THE, SINCE IT CAME ON LAST MONTH.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IS REALLY. PROBABLY WHAT'S NEEDED IN AREAS LIKE THIS AROUND OUR CITY, NOT JUST HERE IN WHITE CITY, BUT AS AN OVERLAY TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE RIGHT THING IS TO GO THERE.
YOU KNOW, SO I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY A LITTLE BEHIND ON THAT FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT IS THERE ANY STAFF COMMENTS ON SETTING? OH, I'M GLAD YOU ASKED. BECAUSE WE DO. WHEN WE AS A STAFF, BEGAN LOOKING AT LAND USE DEVELOPMENT DECISIONS AND WHAT WE ADVISE TO DEVELOPERS, WE LOOK TO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
THAT'S THE DISCUSSION THAT BEGAN THIS MEETING WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.
AND SO WHEN WE WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL, IT'S RESIDENTIAL LOW.
THEN YOU LOOK AT BEYOND JUST THE POLICY DOCUMENT, BUT THE ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT POLICY THROUGH THE ZONING CODE AND THE DISTRICT ITSELF ALLOWS FOR UNITS PER ACRE. SO WHEN YOU WHEN YOU BEGIN TO PUT WHAT THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING WITHIN THAT BRACKET.
NOW I'LL GIVE YOU WHEN YOU START FROM ZERO, ANY INCREASE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE A LOT RIGHT.
BECAUSE IT WASN'T THERE BEFORE. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT DENSITY VERSUS DENSITY IN THE ZONING CODE OF FOUR UNITS PER ACRE, AND WHAT THEY COULD ACTUALLY BE ALLOWED BY A REZONING OF UP TO 6.5 UNITS PER ACRE, THE 4.16 THE DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING IS ACTUALLY RELATIVELY LOW COMPARED TO WHAT IT COULD BE.
DID THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? IT DOES. I REALIZE THAT, BUT DOES NOT GIVE ME ANY, I GUESS, PEACE OF MIND. I UNDERSTAND. I THINK IT I THINK IT BRINGS UP THE GREATER DISCUSSION ABOUT THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS FOR THE COMMUNITY,
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AND PROCEEDING THAT WAY. I MEAN, THE, THE, THE STARK CONTRAST OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD DIRECTLY TO THE WEST IS JUST IN THE FUNDAMENTAL WAY THAT NEIGHBORHOODS ARE DEVELOPED NOW.I MEAN, GOING INTO PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY TO HAVE THEM BUILD ROADS AND SIDEWALKS AND PUT IN CITY OWNED AND MAINTAINED STORM DRAINAGE IS NOT REALLY THE WAY THAT WE DEVELOP RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES ANYMORE.
I MEAN, I'M NOT AWARE OF A SINGLE DEVELOPMENT LIKE THAT IN THIS CITY IN THE LAST DECADE OR LONGER.
I MEAN, I LIVE IN, YOU KNOW, THE MARAVILLA ESTATES PART OF TOWN, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WAS DEVELOPED, YOU KNOW, LIKE 40 SOMETHING YEARS AGO. BACK WHEN DEVELOPMENT WAS LIKE THAT.
BUT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT TRADE OFF HERE, EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IN THIS SITE PLAN IS GOING TO BE OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OF THIS COMMUNITY.
AND SO IT BECOMES A QUESTION IS, IS THAT WORTH ENOUGH TO THE COMMUNITY TO ALLOW THE SMALLER LOT LINES AND THE HIGHER DENSITY THAT WE WOULD SEE IN A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING THE CITY TAKE ON ALL OF THAT ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND RESPONSIBILITY. IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. YOU KNOW, IT'S A REALLY INTERESTING DEBATE.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS MODEL. WE KEEP DOING THE PDS.
SO I THINK THE THE QUESTION FOR THIS BOARD REALLY IS, ARE WE SAFEGUARDING THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COMMUNITY AS BEST AS WE CAN? AND YOU TALK ABOUT PRECEDENT. SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD WE'VE WE'VE GREENLIT A LOT OF PDS.
AND WHAT I AM SEEING IS THIS BOARD BECOMING MORE DEMANDING AND MORE INTERESTED IN THESE SPECIFIC ELEMENTS AND MAKING SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS GETTING THE VALUE THAT WE DESERVE IN THAT TRADE OFF.
WHEN I FIRST STARTED ON THIS BOARD, WE WOULD HAVE DISCUSSION, BUT IT WAS STILL JUST A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, 7 TO 0 APPROVAL RECOMMENDATIONS WITH NOT A LOT OF CONDITIONS.
AND I SEE THE TREND MOVING TOWARDS WE'RE GETTING MORE AWARE.
SO I LIKE TO I LIKE WHAT WE'RE WHAT I'M SEEING HERE.
AND MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE ASKED MORE QUESTIONS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WE STATED OUR CASE, THE APPLICANT LISTENED.
AND IN THE END, IF THIS GOES THROUGH THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO GET A MUCH BETTER, MUCH BETTER PRODUCT THAN THEY WOULD HAVE HAD WE SAID NOTHING OR JUST, YOU KNOW, RUBBER STAMPED THIS PROJECT.
SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE THE MEMBERS TO KEEP PUSHING THIS ISSUE.
I YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS SPECIFICALLY THE COMMENTS FROM FROM THE PUBLIC HERE.
I'VE READ THEM AND I HEAR THEM AND I DO UNDERSTAND THEM, AND I AGREE WITH A LOT OF THEM.
BUT TO ME, IT'S, IT'S IT'S NOT A BLACK AND WHITE ISSUE.
IT'S A VERY IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY SUBJECTIVE THING.
SO YOU KNOW, IT'S WE JUST WE JUST HAVE TO CONTINUE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THESE PDS ARE GOING TO MEAN FOR THE COMMUNITY IN THEIR ENTIRETY.
AND AGAIN, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO BE A UNIQUE INDIVIDUAL CIRCUMSTANCE.
THERE'S NO THERE'S NO RULE THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO APPLY TO ALL OF THEM.
I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID. YEAH. WELL SAID THE AND AND I'LL SAY COLLECTIVELY, THE SETBACKS, THE MOVEMENT OF THE PLANTS. THE TRUTH IS THE THE LOTS HAVEN'T REDUCED 50 TO 48 TO ME IS THE SAME NUMBER WHAT WE CREATED, WHICH WAS NECESSARY, I THINK, FOR US TO ACCEPT THIS WAS THAT IT WAS A SAFE CONDITION FOR THE FOR THE BUS.
I HAVE A LITTLE TROUBLE WITH THREE PARKING PLACES.
BUT I THINK A LOT WAS ADDRESSED. THE SIDEWALK IS A REAL PLUS, BUT BASICALLY DOWN THE PUNCH LIST.
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BUT THE THREE ELEMENTS THAT WERE PROBABLY THE BIGGEST WAS THE THE THE STOP SETBACKS WERE AN ISSUE AND THEN THE SIZE OF THE LOTS. SO THE WHAT HAS NOT BEEN ADDRESSED IS THE SIZE OF THE LOTS.I MEAN, 51 TO 48, WE CREATED A ROUNDABOUT, IN ESSENCE AND, AND MAYBE THAT'S THE BONE OF CONTENTION THAT WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK THE REST OF THE ELEMENTS OF IT IT IT APPEARS THE, THE WHAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED IS, IS A NICE COMMUNITY. AND THE QUESTION IS JUST LOT SIZE AGAINST WHAT ELSE IS GOING ON IN THE AREA.
I AGREE WITH YOU ON THE LOT SIZE COMMENT. I THINK FROM WHAT I SEE, THIS IS POINT ALMOST .15 AS COMPARED TO A QUARTER ACRE. SO BUT IT'S STILL THE SAME DENSITY ON THE PROPERTY THAT I'M, YOU KNOW, THAT I CONSIDER AND I CONSIDER THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE BUYING THESE DAYS. YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE TREND OF WHAT PEOPLE WANT.
THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IS WHAT THEY WANT. OR IS IT WHAT WHAT'S AVAILABLE? YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
IT'S LIKE WE WE AS A BOARD HAVE. CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES PUT THINGS OUT THERE.
DEVELOPERS PUT THINGS OUT THERE BECAUSE IT MAXIMIZES THEIR PROFIT.
AND IT'S WHAT'S AVAILABLE. IS IT REALLY WHAT PEOPLE WANT? MAYBE NOT. IT'S JUST WHAT IS THERE? AND MY QUESTION IS, JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE PRESENTS SOMETHING THAT IS THERE SHOULD BE ACCEPTED AS, OH, THIS IS THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE END.
THIS IS THE PRODUCT WE ALWAYS WANT TO HAVE FOR FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA.
THAT'S MY CONCERN. THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE ARE BEAUTIFUL.
BUT WHAT ARE WE SAYING WE WANT AS A CITY AS A WHOLE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. HEARING NO MORE DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND A REMINDER.
IF WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, WE HAVE WE'RE GOING TO INCLUDE AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION TO VERIFY THE TURN RADIUS WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD'S REQUIREMENTS. I MOVE FOR APPROVAL WITH THE 13 CONDITIONS, WHICH INCLUDES THE BUS RADIUS BEING APPROVED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH 13 TEEN CONDITIONS BY MISS CARTER OR CLEMENS. EXCUSE ME.
SECONDED BY MR. EDWARDS. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
MR. COLLINS. YES, MR. JOHNSON? YES, MISS CLEMENS? YES, MR. WHITING. I'M GOING TO GO CONTRAIRE. NO, MISS CARTER.
NO! MR. EDWARDS. YES, CHAIR? YES. MOTION PASSED.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE HAD AN EASY ONE. AND THEN A NOT SO EASY ONE.
MOVING ON. WE HAVE ITEM SIX F MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
[f. PD2024-00007 Master Planned Development (Updated Proposal) Pulte-Cornerstone PD 2721 S. Jenkins Road]
ANOTHER UPDATED PROPOSAL FROM PULTE. CORNERSTONE.GET IT. AFTERNOON PLANNING CHAIRMAN AND PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS.
BEFORE YOU IS AN UPDATED PROPOSAL FOR PULTE. CORNERSTONE.
REZONING MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT AT 2721 SOUTH JENKINS ROAD.
PARCEL IDS 2324 FOR 13 0000 DASH. 0009 AND 2320 4-4310001-0002. THE APPLICANT IS LESLIE OLSON OF DISTRICT PLANNING GROUP OWNER CASSIE MCCRANE.
CORNERSTONE FORT PIERCE DEVELOPMENT LLC. THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A ZONING CLASSIFICATION FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONE C3 TO PULTE CORNERSTONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD WITH ASSOCIATED MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THIS MASTER PLAN.
WITH PROPOSED 250 UNIT FEE. SIMPLE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES WITH A RANGE OF HOME SIZES,
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A RANGE OF DESIGNS AND AMENITIES SUCH AS A LINEAR PARK CONNECTING A RECREATIONAL AREA TO A POCKET PARK, PROVIDING ADDITIONAL BUFFER TO THE NEW NEIGHBORHOOD FROM 95.IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY OF THE PROJECT. ON NOVEMBER 3RD, 2008, CITY COMMISSION APPROVED THE SITE PLAN TO CONSTRUCT 383,605 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, CONSISTING OF EIGHT BUILDINGS BY THE NAME OF NEWBERRY FIELDS.
THE ANCHOR TENANT FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WAS TARGET RETAIL STORE.
THE APPLICANT REQUESTED TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE FROM GC GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO WM MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, AND ON AUGUST 11TH, THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT WITH 14 CONDITIONS.
THE APPLICATION HAS SINCE BEEN UPDATED WITH REQUESTED CHANGES TO THE CONDITIONS WITH AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION FROM PLANNING AS WELL AS THEY HAVE CHANGED THE PHASING LINES AS REQUESTED BY PLANNING BOARD.
BUT THEY HAVE ALSO MOVED THE BUS STOP LOCATION.
THE EXISTING ZONING IS C3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
THE FUTURE LAND USE IS STILL CURRENTLY GC GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
THIS IS THE MASTER PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING.
WHICH IS BASICALLY LIKE A BUBBLE PLAN. THE APPLICANT HAS SINCE ADDED A NEW ILLUSTRATIVE SITE PLAN FOR YOU TO SEE HOW THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN COULD LOOK, WITH LANDSCAPING AND STREET TREES IN THE AMENITIES CENTER LOCATION. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING LOT DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS FOR TWO LOT TYPES, A LOT A AND A LOT B, WITH A DEPTH OF 110 FOR LOT A WITH A MINIMUM OF 40FT, AND FOR LOT B MINIMUM WIDTH OF 30FT. THE ORIGINAL PHASING PLAN, AS YOU CAN SEE BEFORE YOU READ, IS PHASE ONE. PHASE TWO IS IN THE BLUE AND THE BUS STOP LOCATION IS ON THE NORTHERN END.
THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. LET'S SEE. AT YOUR AUGUST 11TH, 2025 MEETING, THE PLANNING BOARD WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S APPROVAL OF THE SCHOOL BUS STOP LOCATION.
IT WAS CONFIRMED THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT APPROVES OF A MORE EASTERN LOCATION, AND ENCOURAGES THAT THE BUS STOP LOCATIONS FOR ALL DEVELOPMENTS, NOT NOT TO RIDE THROUGH RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS.
THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A NEW PHASING PLAN WITH A NEW BUS STOP LOCATION.
THIS IS THE NEW PROPOSED MASTER PLAN PHASING WITH PHASE ONE TO INCLUDE THE BUS STOP.
AND THE BUS STOP LOCATION HAS BEEN MOVED FURTHER SOUTH AND MORE TO THE INTERIOR.
AND PHASE TWO, AS YOU CAN SEE, IS TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS TOWARDS OKEECHOBEE ROAD.
OKAY. WITH THE THIS MAP. IT SHOWS THE ADDITION OF THE ORIGINAL PHASE TWO LINE.
WELL, THE ORIGINAL PHASE TWO LINE WAS AND IT WAS BASICALLY REMOVED.
IT ALSO SHOWS THE CROSS ACCESS BETWEEN THE ADJACENT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
OKAY. ORIGINAL BUS ROUTE OPTIONS WOULD HAVE INCLUDED THIS SPECIFIC AREA HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW.
WITH THE ORIGINAL BUS STOP LOCATION. EASY. IN AND OUT ALONG JENKINS ROAD.
THE REVISED THESE ARE THE POTENTIAL ENTRYWAYS FOR PHASE ONE.
ONCE PHASE TWO IS DEVELOPED, THEN THEY COULD ALSO USE THE CROSS ACCESS.
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BIOSWALES AND RAIN GARDENS, THROUGH WHICH A MEANDERING ONE THIRD OF A MILE LONG WALKING PATH WINDS, WITH RESTING STOPS OVERLOOKING THE NATURALIZED IN LAKE VISTAS AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY AND THE TERMINUS OF THE LINEAR PARK LIES A POCKET PARK WHERE A SCULPTURAL ART INSTALLATION IS PROPOSED. THIS ART INSTALLATION WILL BE VISIBLE TO THE TRAVELING PUBLIC ON I-95, AND IS INTENDED TO CREATE A BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE SENSE OF ARRIVAL IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS THE WEEKLY THE WEEKDAY DAILY WITH TOTAL 2336 TOTAL WITH APPROXIMATELY 1160. 68. ENTRY AND EXIT. THE HIGHEST WEEKDAY PEAK WOULD BE THE 147 ENTRY OF THE ADJACENT STREET IN THE EVENING PM.
THIS. THIS IS THE PROPOSED STREET TREE. THE TYPICAL SECTIONS.
THE APPLICANTS PROVIDED TWO TYPICAL SECTIONS.
ONE 70FT, ONE 60FT FOR THE RIGHTS OF WAYS FOR THE TWO ENTRY BOULEVARDS.
ALL AFFECTED DEPARTMENTS HAVE REVIEWED THE PROPOSED ZONING ATLAS MAP AMENDMENT FOR A MASTER PLAN, WITH REGARDS TO CONSISTENCY WITH THE ESTABLISHED ORDINANCES AND REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY CODE AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS ALSO BEEN NOTIFIED OF THE BUS STOP LOCATION CHANGE.
THESE ARE THE NEW CONDITIONS FOR APPROVAL. NUMBER ONE A FINAL PD PLAN.
FINAL PD SHALL BE REQUIRED PRIOR TO ANY DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES WITH THE MASTER PLAN IN BY H.J.
DESIGN STUDIO. JOB NUMBER 2024 DASH 30 106 ON WAS IT JUNE 13TH, 2025? NUMBER TWO, THE MINIMUM OPEN SPACE SHALL BE 20% OF THE FINAL PD SITE.
AREA THREE THE MAXIMUM DENSITY SHALL BE FIVE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE OF THE FINAL PD SITE AREA FOR THE FINAL PD PLAN SHALL CONFORM TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY CODE ORDINANCE, UNLESS ALTERNATE STANDARDS ARE APPROVED THROUGH THE PLAN. DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FIVE A GOPHER TORTOISE SURVEY SHALL BE SUBMITTED WITHIN 90 DAYS OF THE LAND CLEARING SIX AFTER APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PD PLAN SITE PLAN, A DETAILED STORMWATER AND DRAINAGE PLAN AND STATEMENT SHALL BE SUBMITTED AT THE TIME OF BUILDING PERMIT SEVEN.
DEVELOPMENT SHALL BE UNDER THE LEGAL CONTROL OF THE APPLICANT.
EIGHT THE FINAL SITE PLAN. FINAL SITE PLAN SHALL INCLUDE A GENERAL DESCRIPTION OF THE BUILDINGS AND STREETSCAPES, INCLUDING. STANDARDS OF HEIGHT. BUILDING COVERAGE.
PARKING AREAS. PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
NINE. PRIOR TO APPROVAL OF THE PD SITE PLAN, THE APPLICANT SHALL SUBMIT A PROPOSED DECLARATION OF COVENANTS GOVERNING THE USE, MAINTENANCE AND CONTINUED PROTECTION OF THE COMMON OPEN SPACE OR OTHER SHARED AREAS WITHIN THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
THE DECLARATION SHALL BIND SUCCESSORS IN TITLE TO AND ANY COMMITMENTS CONCERNING COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT, ITS MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION. TEN. PHASING OF THIS PROJECT WILL REQUIRE THE FOLLOWING AT THE TIME OF FINAL PD, THE APPROXIMATE DATE WHEN CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT CAN BE EXPECTED TO BEGIN.
THE NUMBER OF PHASES IN WHICH THE PROJECT WILL BE BUILT, AND THE APPROXIMATE DATE WHEN CONSTRUCTION OF EACH PHASE CAN BE EXPECTED TO BEGIN AND COMPLETED, AND A GENERAL DESCRIPTION OF THE BUILDINGS AND STREETSCAPES, INCLUDING STANDARDS FOR HEIGHT, BUILDING COVERAGE, PARKING AREAS AND PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED FOR EACH PHASE OF THE DEVELOPMENT. 11.
C THE LOCATION, SIZE, HEIGHT OF PRESENT AND PROPOSED BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES.
D THE LOCATION AND SIZE OF ALL AREAS PROPOSED TO BE CONVEYED, DEDICATED OR RESERVED FOR STREETS, PARKS, PLAYGROUNDS, PUBLIC AND SEMIPUBLIC BUILDINGS, OR SIMILAR USES.
F THE PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION SYSTEM, INCLUDING INTERRELATIONSHIPS WITH VEHICULAR CIRCULATION SYSTEM WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT TO ADJACENT STREETS, ALLOWING ALL CURB CUTS AND SIDEWALKS. G THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED UTILITY SYSTEMS, INCLUDING SANITARY SEWERS, STORM SEWERS, WATER, ELECTRIC AND GAS LINES. H TO PROPOSE BUFFERING TREATMENT OF THE PERIMETER OF THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
REFUSE STATIONS, STORAGE AREAS OR LOADING AREAS, INCLUDING MATERIALS AND TECHNIQUES USED SUCH AS SCREENS, FENCES AND WALLS. 12 A PLAT PLANT SHALL BE REQUIRED PRIOR TO THE APPLICATION FOR BUILDING PERMITS IN RESPECT OF VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION AND 13.
THE CONTACT THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO ENSURE APPROPRIATE NOISE ATTENUATION MEASURES ARE IMPLEMENTED TO ELIMINATE THE POTENTIAL FOR TRAFFIC NOISE INTRUSION INTO THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. ENHANCEMENTS TO MINIMIZE INTERIOR NOISE, SUCH AS,
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BUT NOT LIMITED TO DOUBLE GLAZED GLASS WINDOWS, SOUND ABSORPTIVE INSULATION, AND DOOR TREATMENTS THAT MEET HUD SPECIFICATIONS FOR ALL UNITS SHALL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS PRIOR TO GRANTING A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AND 14.THE PROJECT SITE IS PARTY TO AN ACCESS EASEMENT RECORDED AT 3093 2025 PG 2020, I MEAN 2587, IN FAVOR OF THE OWNER OF THE 1.51 ACRE PARCEL LOCATED AT 2627 SOUTH JENKINS ROAD, WITH THE SUBJECT PARCEL ID IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE NORTH PRIOR TO APPROVAL OF THE FINAL PLAN.
DEVELOPMENT SITE PLAN FOR ANY PHASE CONTEMPLATED UNDER THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE STAFF WITH A COPY OF THE RECORDED EASEMENT NEGOTIATED BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER FOR THEIR MUTUAL BENEFIT, PRESERVING THE OWNER'S ADJACENT OWNER'S RIGHT OF ACCESS TO THE SUBJECT SITE PROJECT SITE.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT STAFF THE APPLICANT HAD REQUESTED A CHANGE TO THE.
I THINK IT WAS THE PLAT CONDITION, AND WE ARE OPEN TO TO THAT.
I THINK IT WAS. YES. NUMBER 12. SO THOSE ARE THE 14 CONDITIONS.
AND STAFF RECOMMENDS THE PLANNING BOARD APPROVE THE PROPOSED ZONING ATLAS AMENDMENT WITH THE NEW 14 CONDITIONS FOR APPROVAL, CONSISTENT WITH SECTION 125, DASH 136 OF THE CITY CODE AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES NOT ADVERSELY ADVERSELY AFFECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, CONVENIENCE AND GENERAL WELFARE. ALTERNATIVE ACTIONS OF THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED MASTER PLAN.
MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT WITH THE ASSOCIATED DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THANK YOU.
I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
THANK YOU, MR. GILMORE. COULD YOU GO BACK TO CONDITION 12? YOU STATED THIS WAS THE CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT REQUESTED.
MODIFICATION. IS THE MODIFICATION REFLECTED HERE? NO. I'LL LET THE APPLICANT STATE WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT AFTERWARDS.
IT'S PRETTY MUCH SAYING THE SAME THING, BUT THEY CONSTRUCTED IT A DIFFERENT WAY.
THEY HAD ACTUALLY A FEW OTHERS THAT THEY WILL BE DISCUSSING THAT THEY WANTED CHANGES TO AS WELL.
YEAH. STAFF RESERVES THE RIGHT TO DISCUSS THOSE ADDITIONALLY.
YEAH AS WELL. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT. I THINK WE CAN GO RIGHT AHEAD TO HEARING FROM THE APPLICANT IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD, PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON, PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS.
BEFORE I GET STARTED, I HAVE A POWERPOINT ALL LOADED UP.
BUT BEFORE THE MEETING, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD BECAUSE WE WERE WAITING FOR COMMENTS FROM THEM ON THE BUS STOP, AND SHE TOLD ME WHERE SHE WANTED IT, AND IT'S NOT WHERE WE PUT IT.
WOULD YOU MIND IF I LOADED THAT, PLEASE? OKAY.
SO IF YOU SORT BY DATE, MODIFIED THEIR TOP ONE.
THIS ONE. HERE YOU GO. HERE YOU GO.
CHAIRMAN CRYSTAL, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING BOARD, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENTLY WAITING FOR US TODAY.
I'M GOING TO GO QUICKLY THROUGH. YOU'VE ALREADY HEARD US IN AUGUST, BUT YOU GUYS HEAR A LOT OF PROJECTS, SO I WANT TO JUST BRIEFLY TOUCH ON EVERYTHING REALLY QUICKLY.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, IT'S MADE UP OF TWO PARCELS, ONE KIND OF TUCKED INSIDE OF ANOTHER ONE.
AND WE ARE ACROSS THE STREET FROM A BUILT SUBDIVISION AND JUST TO THE NORTH OF ANOTHER APPROVED ONE.
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THE PLANNING THIS PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT UNANIMOUSLY IN DECEMBER 2020.FOR THE PLAN. DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IS TWO STEPS MASTER AND FINAL.
AND THIS IS THE MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT. JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, WE ARE JUST WAITING TO COME BEFORE YOU FOR THE FINAL, SO I HOPE TO BE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU IN NOVEMBER.
THE PLANNING BOARD HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT ON AUGUST 11TH, AS WE JUST DISCUSSED RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS, AND ONE OF THOSE CONDITIONS REQUIRED DESIGN CHANGES TO THE SITE PLAN TO REFLECT THE SCHOOL BOARD'S SCHOOL BUS STOPS LOCATION WITHIN PHASE ONE OF THE NEW NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE BACK TODAY. SO ORIGINALLY THE AS VENICE MENTIONED, WE HAD THE BUS STOP LOCATED OFF OF AN INTERSECTION BETWEEN THE THE RESIDENTIAL ACCESS OFF OF THE COMMERCIAL ACCESS GOING NORTH.
AS YOU'LL RECALL, THAT COMMERCIAL ACCESS IS NECESSARY BECAUSE THAT COMMERCIAL PARCEL ISN'T VIABLE WITHOUT ACCESS THROUGH OUR SITE, BECAUSE THEY'RE LOCATED SO CLOSE TO THE INTERSECTION.
SO THEY NEED A FULL ACCESS INTERSECTION, AND WE ARE PROVIDING THAT.
SO WE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD FROM THIS BOARD WAS THAT YOU WERE INTERESTED IN A MAKING SURE IT'S IN PHASE ONE, WHICH IS COMPLETELY REASONABLE AND ALSO MAKING SURE.
AND WE ALSO HEARD SOME FEEDBACK ABOUT LIKE THE INTERACTION OF COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC WITH THE SCHOOL KIDS, YOU KNOW, SOME SOME CONCERNS THERE, AND ALSO ITS REQUIREMENT, LIKE, AS WE ORIGINALLY HAD IT, ITS REQUIREMENT FOR THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL TO BE COMPLETE IN ORDER FOR THAT LOOP TO REALLY WORK.
SO ALL GOOD FEEDBACK. SO WE MOVED IT UP TO THIS BLUE DOT HERE.
YOU SEE WHERE IT'S FULLY WITHIN PHASE ONE SCHOOL BUS CAN COME IN AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE ON THE NORTH AND LEAVE AT THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE SOUTH. SO WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD IS THEY'D LIKE IT CATTY CORNER ACROSS THE STREET WHERE THE WHERE THE AMENITY CENTER WILL BE AND WHERE THE PARENTS CAN PARK.
PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT IT'S IN PHASE TWO, SO WE'RE WORKING.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THAT. BUT LET ME JUST GO THROUGH THE REST OF OUR SLIDES. WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT. SO WHAT THIS DOES IS IT LEVERAGES A HIGH VISIBILITY SITE TO ESTABLISH A WELCOME FEATURE. I'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.
WHILE PROVIDING NEEDED HOUSING CLOSE TO THE INTERSTATE, THE TURNPIKE ACCESS, AND TO THE KINGS HIGHWAY JOBS CORRIDOR THAT THE CITY HAS PRIORITIZED AT FIVE UNITS PER ACRE. WHICH IS THE SAME DENSITY TO AS IS TO OUR EAST AND TO OUR SOUTH.
THE PROPOSED RESIDENTIAL USE IS PROJECTED TO GENERATE ROUGHLY 88% LESS TRAFFIC.
I THINK IT'S MORE LIKE 90% LESS TRAFFIC THAN THE PREVIOUS FUTURE LAND USE, AND IT'S DESIGNED TO ENCOURAGE ACTIVE LIFESTYLES AND ACTIVE USE OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, WITH TREE LINED STREETS, SHADED NATURE TRAILS, AND LAKE VISTAS.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS THE COLORIZED RENDERING WHERE YOU CAN SEE THAT REALLY EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPE BUFFER UP AGAINST THE I-95 OFF RAMP AND UP TO THE UPPER LEFT. YOU SEE WHAT'S LABELED AS AN IDENTITY FEATURE.
IN ADDITION WE HAVE THOSE LANDSCAPED WALKING TRAILS GOING THROUGH THAT BUFFER.
WE HAVE BIOSWALES SEATING AREAS. YOU SEE THE PICNIC AREA UP THERE AGAINST THE LAKE.
AND REALLY, WHAT'S NICE ABOUT THE WAY THIS IS DESIGNED BY TOD, WHO'S HERE IN THE AUDIENCE, IS THAT IT REALLY ACTIVATES THOSE LAKES AND IT ACTIVATES THE EDGE OF THE, OF THE IT OF THE COMMUNITY WITHOUT PUTTING WALKING TRAILS IN PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU HEAR WHEN PEOPLE SAY, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU PUT SOME WALKING TRAILS AROUND THE LAKES? AND THE ANSWER IS BECAUSE PEOPLE HATE BUYING HOMES WITH TRAILS IN THEIR BACKYARDS.
AND SO WHAT THIS DOES IS IT ACTIVATES THOSE LAKES.
IT PROVIDES LAKE VISTAS FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
IT PROVIDES A WAY TO GO OUT AND HAVE A PICNIC OUT THERE.
BUT NONE OF THE HOMES WILL HAVE THEIR BACKYARDS UP AGAINST THOSE MORE PUBLIC AREAS.
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AND WE ALSO HAVE A LOVELY CABANA POOL RIGHT HERE, YOU'LL SEE.AND HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF THE TYPES OF RAIN GARDENS THAT YOU'LL SEE IN THIS SITE.
BUT A LOT OF COMMERCIAL SERVICES REALLY CLOSE BY.
THIS IS THE MAIN ENTRANCE DESIGN ON THE NORTH SIDE, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT COMMERCIAL ACCESS COMING OFF JUST TO THE NORTH THERE, AND IT SWINGS DOWN AND INTO THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL.
AND THAT WILL BE TWO WAY TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF THERE.
YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE A NICE BOULEVARD DESIGN AS PEOPLE, AS YOU MAKE AN ENTRANCE INTO THIS COMMUNITY.
AND HERE'S THE SOUTH ENTRANCE DESIGN WITH THE SAME NICE LANDSCAPING FEATURES WITH STREET TREES.
NOW, THIS IS OUR NEW NEW PHASING PLAN AS OF RIGHT NOW.
SO IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE SCHOOL THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S REQUEST TO LOCATE.
CAN YOU SEE MY. CAN YOU SEE MY CURSOR HERE? THEIR THEIR REQUEST TO LOCATE THE THE BUS STOP ADJACENT TO THIS PARKING THAT IS RIGHT HERE. WE'VE MOVED THE PHASING LINE TO TAKE IN THAT PARKING AREA AND THEN TAKE IN THIS SECTION HERE, WHICH WAS GOING TO BE IN PHASE TWO. IT ALSO INCORPORATES THIS COMMERCIAL DRIVE THAT WAS A CONCERN OF THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNER TO THE NORTH. AND THEN IT JUST SWITCHES THIS AREA HERE TO PHASE TWO.
SO WE HAVE TWO AREAS OF PHASE TWO. AND THE CENTER TO THE NORTH IS PHASE ONE.
SO THAT'S OUR NEW IDEA. AGAIN LIKE I SAID, WITH WITH THIS APPROVAL, YOU WILL BE REDUCING THE POTENTIAL TRIPS ON JENKINS ROAD BY ABOUT 42,000 TRIPS PER DAY, GOING FROM COMMERCIAL GENERAL DOWN TO IT WILL PROVIDE A PROPORTIONATE SHARE TOWARDS SIGNALIZATION OF THE SOUTH ENTRANCE ALIGNING WITH INDEPENDENCE CLASSICAL ACADEMY.
SO THAT'S A BUSY SCHOOL THEY NEARLY TRIP. THE REQUIREMENT FOR SIGNALIZATION NOW.
AND SO SINCE WE ALIGNED WITH THEM AT THE REQUEST OF SAINT LUCIE COUNTY, NOW IT DEFINITELY NEEDS A SIGNAL AND WE WILL PAY OUR, OUR FAIR SHARE TOWARDS THAT. OKAY. SO NOW WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
SO WE HAVE A FEW THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THEM BETWEEN MYSELF AND LEE DOBBINS. WE WILL GO THROUGH THESE.
I'LL TAKE THIS FIRST ONE. THE STAFF CONDITION OF APPROVAL 11.
AND IT'S SOMETHING WE WE HAD COMMUNICATION WITH STAFF ABOUT, BUT WE JUST DIDN'T WE DIDN'T GET TO KUMBAYA, AS I LIKE TO SAY. SO WE HAVE TO TALK IT THROUGH HERE.
STAFF CONDITION 11 REFERENCES THE SPECIFIC ITEMS REQUIRED AT FINAL PD SITE PLAN REVIEW.
IN ORDER TO TO MOVE FORWARD, WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT THE CODE IS VERY, VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT'S REQUIRED AT FINAL PD SITE PLAN.
AND WHAT IS NOT REQUIRED IN THE CODE AND WHAT IS REQUIRED IN THIS CONDITION ARE DIFFERENT.
SO I DON'T WANT TO CONDITION SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO SUBMIT STUFF THAT WE DIDN'T SUBMIT.
THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT IN THIS CODE, AND IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE TO REQUIRE THAT THE IDENTITY TO IDENTIFY THE HEIGHT AND THE LOCATIONS OF ALL BUILDINGS BECAUSE IT'S A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.
SO THAT IS THAT HAS ALL BEEN DONE. BUT WE DON'T WANT TO SPECIFICALLY LOCATE THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT OF EVERY SINGLE OF EVERY SINGLE HOME, BECAUSE THAT'S GENERALLY NOT HOW YOU DO IT. THERE'S ALSO NO REQUIREMENT TO IDENTIFY ALL UTILITY SYSTEMS,
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INCLUDING WATER, SEWER AND GAS LINES. THOSE ARE IDENTIFIED AFTER FINAL PD.SO THAT ONE WE NEED TO CHANGE. THEN FINAL PD APPLICATION REVIEW HAS BEEN COMPLETE.
LIKE I SAID, THESE ITEMS HAVEN'T BEEN REQUESTED, AND I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO MUDDY THE WATERS.
OOPS. AND THEN STAFF CONDITION 12, I'M GOING TO HAVE LEE DOBBINS COME UP AND TALK ABOUT PLATTING.
AND ACTUALLY, IN 2024, THERE WAS A FLORIDA STATUTE THAT WAS PASSED BY THE LEGISLATURE REQUIRING THAT CITIES THAT ARE ABOVE A CERTAIN SIZE, AND BY MY READING OF THE STATUTE, CITY OF FORT PIERCE APPEARS TO BE ONE OF THOSE CITIES THAT THEY HAVE TO ESTABLISH A PROCEDURE TO ALLOW DEVELOPERS TO PULL BUILDING PERMITS FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS BEFORE PLAT APPROVAL.
AND THE DEVELOPER CAN PULL UP TO 50, I'M SORRY, UP TO 50% OF OF THE HOMES IN THE SUBDIVISION, THEY CAN PULL BUILDING PERMITS. THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED ON THEIR CONSTRUCTION.
THEY CANNOT SELL THOSE. LET'S BE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR.
THEY CANNOT SELL THOSE UNTIL AFTER THE PLAT IS APPROVED AND RECORDED, BUT THEY IT WAS THE IDEA OF THE LEGISLATURE THAT THEY WANT TO HELP SMOOTH THE PROCESS FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, TO ADDRESS THE HOUSING NEEDS IN THE STATE.
AND AND SO ALLOWING FOR PULLING THOSE BUILDING PERMITS BEFORE PLAT APPROVAL.
SO I THINK THIS CONDITION ACTUALLY VIOLATES THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATUTE.
THE PROPERTY MAY NOT BE SUBDIVIDED INTO SINGLE FAMILY LOTS UNLESS THE APPLICANT OBTAINS SUBDIVISION PLAT APPROVAL IN ACCORDANCE WITH ALL APPLICABLE CITY CODE REQUIREMENTS. SO WE WOULD ASK FOR FOR THAT CHANGE TO THIS CONDITION.
AND I WILL TURN IT BACK TO LESLIE FOR THE NEXT ITEM.
THANK YOU. YOU CAN TELL THERE'S A BIT OF A HEIGHT DISCREPANCY BETWEEN LEE AND MYSELF.
ALL RIGHT. SO. THERE WE GO. PUT MY READING GLASSES BACK ON.
SO, STAFF CONDITION 13, THIS IS ABOUT NOISE ABATEMENT CONCERNS REGARDING, YOU KNOW, ANY NOISE THAT COULD GET TO THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES FROM I-95 BECAUSE OF ITS PROXIMITY. FORTUNATELY, WE ARE A LITTLE BIT OFF OF I-95 BECAUSE WE'RE ON THE OFF RAMP, BUT IT'S STILL A REASONABLE CONCERN. THIS PARTICULAR CONDITION OF APPROVAL, THOUGH THE WORDING IS A LITTLE TOO VAGUE FOR US.
WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT HOW IT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED AT THE TIME OF BUILDING PERMIT.
SO I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT IS REQUIRED THERE.
YOU KNOW, IS IT ALL THOSE THINGS AND MORE OR SOME OF THOSE THINGS AND MAYBE MORE? SO DOUBLE GLAZED GLASS WINDOWS, WHICH PULTE HAD ALREADY HAD ALREADY PROPOSED INSULATION, WHICH OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE A PART OF IT AS WELL. SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GET TO THE BUILDING PERMIT STAGE AFTER YOU GET THROUGH YOUR SITE PLAN PROCESS? IS IT YOUR BUILDING PERMITS? GO TO THE PLAN'S REVIEWERS, AND THE PLAN'S REVIEWERS ARE GOING TO LOOK THROUGH IT AND SAY, DOES THIS MEET THE CODE? AND THEN THAT GOES TO ZONING.
AND ZONING IS GOING TO SAY, DOES IT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE APPROVED PLAN DEVELOPMENT? AND HOW ABOUT THOSE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL? HAVE THOSE BEEN MET? CAN WE ISSUE THIS BUILDING PERMIT? AND I DON'T KNOW HOW EITHER THE BUILDING REVIEWER OR THE PLAN'S REVIEWER OR THE ZONING REVIEWER WOULD LOOK AT THIS CONDITION OF APPROVAL AND KNOW IF IT'S BEEN MET. FURTHERMORE, SO THAT WE COULD GET SOME MORE SPECIFICITY SPECIFICITY FROM FDOT, WE REACHED OUT TO THEM AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE? YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT DOUBLE GLAZED WINDOWS.
IS THAT IS THAT AN ADEQUATE SOUND MITIGATION MEASURE? WHAT ELSE DO YOU RECOMMEND? AND THIS IS THE RESPONSE FROM LARRY HYMOWITZ WITH FDOT.
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HE SAID, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T I CAN'T VALIDATE WHETHER THAT WILL BE EFFECTIVE OR NOT.SO IF WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH A NOISE MITIGATION COMMENT, A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, I'D JUST LIKE IT TO BE REALLY SPECIFIC SO THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. SO THEN SO OUR ALTERNATE IS THAT WE WOULD COMMIT TO THE LAMINATED INSULATING GLASS IN ADDITION TO THAT BERM AND WALL.
WE LIKE THE SPECIFICITY OF IT. WE'RE HAPPY TO HEAR YOUR FEEDBACK.
AND THAT JUST CREATES A CLEAR REQUIREMENT THAT ALL PARTIES WILL UNDERSTAND HOW TO IMPLEMENT IT.
THE BUILDER BUILDING PLANS REVIEWER AND THE ZONING REVIEWER.
LAST ONE, I THINK. YES. IS THE EASEMENT. SO I'M GOING TO ASK LEE TO COME BACK UP.
I GUESS WE SHOULD HAVE SWITCHED IT. BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S OKAY.
WE'RE GOING IN THE ORDER OF THE CONDITIONS. SORRY FOR THE THE TAG TEAM.
SO THIS CONDITION OF APPROVAL RELATES TO AN ACCESS EASEMENT.
SO THE THE PROJECT SITE IS PARTY TO AN ACCESS EASEMENT RECORDED AT SUCH AND SUCH IN FAVOR OF THE OWNER OF THE 1.51 ACRE PARCEL LOCATED TO THE NORTH OF THIS SITE. PRIOR TO APPROVAL OF A PLAN DEVELOPMENT CYCLE FOR ANY PHASE CONTEMPLATED WITH THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THE APPLICANT WILL PROVIDE STAFF WITH A COPY OF A RECORDED EASEMENT NEGOTIATED BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER FOR THEIR MUTUAL BENEFIT, PRESERVING THE ADJACENT OWNER'S RIGHT OF ACCESS TO THE PROJECT SITE.
SO BASICALLY THERE'S CURRENTLY AN ACCESS EASEMENT FOR THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNER TO THE NORTH.
THE BEST THEY COULD GET WOULD BE A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT.
IT'S SOMEWHERE FURTHER TO THE WEST. THIS CONDITION IS SAYING PRIOR TO FINAL SITE PLAN, WE WOULD ENTER INTO A EASEMENT OR A MODIFICATION TO THE EXISTING EASEMENT TO PUT IT IN THE APPROPRIATE LOCATION. I'VE GOT NO PROBLEM WITH THIS OTHER THAN THE TIMING PRIOR TO FINAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT TIED TO PLAT APPROVAL.
THE REASON BEING, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO ENTER INTO THAT AMENDMENT TO THE EXISTING EASEMENT, IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO HAVE OUR SITE PLAN NAILED DOWN FIRST, BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE TO HAPPEN FOR THAT AMENDMENT TO EASEMENT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SURVEY, HAVE A SURVEY, OR PREPARE A SKETCH AND LEGAL DESCRIPTION IDENTIFYING EXACTLY WHERE THAT CORRIDOR IS.
I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE FINAL SITE PLAN DONE SO I KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO MOVE.
AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE THAT, WE COULD ENTER INTO THE AMENDMENT.
BY THE WAY, WE'VE GIVEN A DRAFT OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, AND IT'S UNDER REVIEW BY THE ATTORNEY FOR THE AUDIENCE.
I HAVE TO TALK WITH THEM AFTER THE MEETING ABOUT COMMENTS ON THAT.
SO WE'RE WORKING FORWARD IN GETTING THAT AMENDMENT TO THE EASEMENT.
AND THE REALITY IS, EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE THIS CONDITION, WE STILL NEED TO ENTER INTO THAT AMENDMENT WITH THEM, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY'VE GOT AN EASEMENT THAT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH A BUNCH OF OUR LOTS SOMEWHERE WHERE WE DON'T WANT IT.
SO LONG STORY SHORT, WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE THAT CHANGED TO PRIOR TO PRIOR TO PLAT APPROVAL AS OPPOSED TO FINAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT SITE. AND JUST AS A GENERAL HOUSEKEEPING MATTER, WE'RE NOT EXPECTING TO, LIKE, WORK OUT THE EXACT LANGUAGE OF ALL THESE THINGS WITH YOU GUYS HERE TODAY.
WE WOULD JUST LIKE, AS A CONDITION OF YOUR APPROVAL, TO HOPEFULLY GIVE US THE AUTHORITY TO WORK THESE OUT WITH STAFF SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO. US.
OKAY. SO IN SUMMARY WE BELIEVE THAT THIS PD DELIVERS HIGH QUALITY, LOW DENSITY HOUSING WITH A MIX OF HOME TYPES TO MEET OUR DIVERSE COMMUNITY NEEDS. HELPS ALLEVIATE THE REGION'S HOUSING SHORTAGE THROUGH THOUGHTFUL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
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CREATES A RESILIENT, AMENITY RICH NEIGHBORHOOD WITH CONVENIENT ACCESS TO SCHOOLS, JOBS, AND ESSENTIAL SERVICES, AND FEATURES A SAFE FEATURE, SAFE SIDEWALKS THAT SUPPORT WALKABILITY, AND SAFE SCHOOL BUS MEETINGS.SO WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. AND IF THERE ARE, IF THERE'S CONVERSATION AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT, IF WE COULD RESERVE SOME TIME TO RESPOND TO THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? I DO. IF WE COULD GO BACK TO THE REVISED PLAN.
YEAH, WE HAD PHASE ONE AND TWO THAT YOU CHANGED OUT.
YEAH, IT IS THERE. IS THERE A BETTER CAN YOU ZOOM IN TO WHERE EXACTLY THE BUS STOP IS WITH THAT LITTLE BIT OF CHANGE OUT THE BUS STOP? DO YOU SEE? I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ZOOM IN EXACTLY, BUT DO YOU SEE WHAT IS Y OF THE SIDEWALK IS SO COMES OFF THE ROAD HERE, GOES NORTH OR GOES WEST HERE AND THEN NORTH.
THIS WAY. THE BUS STOP WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY RIGHT HERE.
WHERE THAT WHERE THAT SIDEWALK, SO THAT THE KIDS CAN JUST HOP RIGHT ON THE BUS.
OKAY. AND BEFORE AT THE WHATEVER THAT INTERSECTION IS, I'M SEEING AN ASTERISK.
IS THAT WHERE IT WAS BEFORE? WHAT'S THAT ASTERISK.
YEAH. WHERE WE WERE GOING TO PUT IT. YEAH. AND SO YOU MOVED IT ACROSS THE STREET.
YEAH. GOOD. AND MISS FOGARTY YOUR YOUR. PLAN FOR THE BUS ROUTE THROUGH THESE STREETS INCLUDED IN THE NEW PHASE ONE.
THIS IS ACCEPTABLE FOR YOU AS FAR AS TURN RADIUSES LENGTH OF TRAVEL DISTANCE AND ALL OF THAT? YES, IT IS AS AS MY COMMENT WAS SUBMITTED. SORRY.
IT WAS LAST FRIDAY WHEN I SUBMITTED THE COMMENT, BUT MY COMMENT TO MR. GILMORE WAS THAT WE WOULD LIKE THE BUS STOP TO BE MOVED TO THE AMENITY CENTER, WHICH WAS ACROSS THE WAY, AND THAT OUR BUS WILL UTILIZE THE SHORTEST DISTANCE POSSIBLE TO COME IN AND COME OUT.
AND WE HAD NOTATED THAT THAT FIRST ROUND THERE.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? BEFORE YOU STEP AWAY, I JUST WANT TO ASK STAFF ANY INITIAL CONCERNS WITH THE RECOMMENDED REVISED OR REQUESTED REVISED CONDITIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER? I THINK THE APPLICANT SUGGESTED THAT WE GO THROUGH PUBLIC COMMENT, AND THEN WE COULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AMONGST THE BOARD, STAFF AND THE APPLICANT.
OKAY. IF THAT'S ACCEPTABLE. ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU, MISS OLSON. AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
PLEASE SIGN IN AND STATE YOUR NAME.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. GOOD AFTERNOON. NICHOLAS GIESLER, ATTORNEY WITH BARTLETT, LOEB, HYNES, THOMPSON AND ANGELOS. AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF FP CITY SHOPS AND KEN SEMIGRAN, THE PRINCIPAL.
AND THAT ENTITY IS HERE AS WELL. AND WE ARE THE AFOREMENTIONED COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNER.
WE THINK PULTE AND ALSO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT STAFF HERE TO WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH US TO, TO DEVELOP A PLAN THAT MAKES SENSE. YOU KNOW, THERE WERE ISSUES AT THE OUTSET RELATED TO ACCESS AND IF THE TRAFFIC ALL MADE SENSE OFF JENKINS ROAD, AND WE'RE ABLE TO WORK ALL THOSE ISSUES OUT WITH THE CITY AND ALSO WITH WITH THE ENGINEERS AT SAINT LUCIE COUNTY, AND WE ALL FEEL COMFORTABLE ABOUT THAT. WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PHASING, WHICH I THINK HOPEFULLY GOT ANSWERED, ANSWERED TODAY WITH THE PHASING PLAN. IT APPEARS TO US OUR ISSUE IS THE ACCESS ROAD.
THE COMMERCIAL ACCESS ROAD WHICH APPEARS IS IS INSIDE OF PHASE ONE.
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AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT NORTHERN ENTRANCE WILL BE WORKED OUT IN PHASE ONE.WE DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT WHEN IN PHASE ONE.
PHASE ONE IS A BIG AREA. SO AND I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD ALSO HAS THE SAME QUESTIONS TO ENSURE THAT THAT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, AT THE OUTSET. SO ALL THAT ACCESS HAS WORKED OUT.
AND AGAIN, I'LL SAY THIS, THAT WE ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE PLAN.
WE DO NOT WANT TO BECOME AN OBSTACLE TO DEVELOPMENT.
WE DO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THEIR PROPOSED REVISION TO CONDITION 14.
AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE PROPOSING THAT THE ACCESS AGREEMENT, THE REVISED ACCESS AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE WORKING OUT WOULD NOT BE NECESSARY UNTIL PLAT APPROVAL. BUT, YOU KNOW, AS WE HEARD TODAY, THEIR INTENTION IS TO BEGIN POUNDING NAILS BEFORE THAT PLAT APPROVAL TAKES PLACE.
AND I JUST DON'T THINK IT REALLY MAKES SENSE TO WAIT.
AS MR. DOBBINS STATED, WE'RE GOING TO. YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT, AND WE'RE GOING TO GET TO WORK ON IT AS SOON AS THIS MEETING IS OVER. BUT I DON'T SEE HOW A SITE PLAN COULD BE APPROVED WITH, AS AGAIN, MR. DOBBINS STATED, RIGHT NOW, THE EXISTING ACCESS EASEMENT GOES RIGHT THROUGH SOMEBODY'S KITCHEN ON THE EXISTING SITE PLAN.
AND WE HAVE JUST AS MUCH OF AS A DESIRE TO GET THIS DONE QUICKLY AS PULTE DOES.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT WITH WITH THAT ONE SLIGHT CAVEAT THAT WE WOULD LIKE THE CONDITION TO TO READ AS, AS IT CURRENTLY IS PROPOSED BY STAFF. THANK YOU.
AND WE'RE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION? SEEING NONE. WE'LL SEND IT BACK TO THE BOARD AND ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON THESE REVISED CONDITIONS.
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD JUST START OFF BEFORE WE START NEGOTIATING IN FRONT OF THE BOARD.
AS YOU'VE HEARD THIS AFTERNOON, THE APPLICANT HAS RAISED CONCERNS WITH SEVERAL CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, MOST OF WHICH HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY REVIEWED BY THE APPLICANT'S LEGAL COUNSEL, PLANNING STAFF, AS WELL AS THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. IT IS STAFF'S OPINION THAT CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL SHOULD BE WORKED OUT PRIOR TO REVIEW BY THIS BOARD, AND BE RELATIVELY UNCHANGED AS FAR AS THE PROJECT PROCEEDS TO CITY COMMISSION REVIEW, EXCEPT FOR THOSE IMPOSED BY THE PLANNING BOARD, WHICH NEITHER STAFF NOR APPLICANT WOULD BE PRIVY TO.
THE REQUESTED CHANGES APPROVAL ARE IN PART WHY THIS PROJECT IS BEFORE THE BOARD ONCE AGAIN.
THIS SAID STAFF IS OPEN TO THIS DISCUSSION. IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN IT.
THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED YOU AS WELL AS STAFF A LIST OF OBJECTIONS TO 11, 12, 13 AND 14.
AND MY MY NEXT QUESTION IS, ARE YOU STILL OBJECTING TO NUMBER SEVEN? BECAUSE AT ONE POINT THAT WAS A CONCERN. SO I WOULD SUGGEST DISCUSSING THEM ONE BY ONE AS PROVIDING THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION.
AND WE CAN JUST GET ON DOWN THE ROAD WITH THIS.
BUT I CAN MAKE YOU A PROMISE. YES, OTHER PROJECTS WILL NOT HAVE THIS TYPE OF DISCUSSION.
THESE PROJECTS WILL HAVE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, IF ANY WORKED OUT PRIOR TO REACHING THIS BOARD.
BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY. THAT'S THE WAY THINGS SHOULD BE DONE.
THAT SAID, LET'S TALK ABOUT CONDITION NUMBER 11.
SO WHY DO WHY WHY ARE WE NOT WAITING THEN FOR THESE CONDITIONS TO BE SETTLED WITH BETWEEN THE DEVELOPERS AND AND CITY? WHY ARE WE DISCUSSING THIS NOW? I MEAN, THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. I MEAN, SO THE TO YOU, TO STAFF.
YES, SIR. YOUR PREFERENCE WOULD BE THAT THESE NEGOTIATIONS WOULD HAPPEN AT THE STAFF LEVEL WITH THE APPLICANT, NOT HERE IN THIS PUBLIC HEARING. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS. LET ME LET ME LET ME BACK UP. BACKUP AS A MATTER OF COURSE, OF DAY TO DAY REGULAR DOING BUSINESS.
YES. IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, IN ORDER TO KEEP THE PROJECT MOVING FORWARD THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS, I THINK THAT WE CAN REACH A FAIRLY SIMPLE COMPROMISE ON WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS RAISED, AS WELL AS STAFF'S REVIEW OF THESE COMMENTS.
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I HAVE A COMMENT. SO SORRY. GO AHEAD. AS THE SENIOR MEMBER OF THIS BOARD, I'M GOING TO STATE OUT FRONT I FEEL VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THIS BECAUSE ANYTHING WE DO TODAY HAS NOT BEEN REVIEWED BY LEGAL.STAFF SHARES YOUR DISCOMFORT WITH THAT. IN THE PAST, DURING MY TENURE, WE USED TO HAVE A LEGAL REPRESENTATIVE PRESENT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES. WE NO LONGER HAVE THAT IN PLACE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT ON THE RECORD THAT I PERSONALLY FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH ANY OF THIS DISCUSSION, MR. COLLINS. SO WHAT ARE WE EXACTLY BEING ASKED TO DO? AND WHO ARE WE BEING ASKED TO DO IT BY? LIKE, IS IT STAFF AND THE APPLICANT OR IS IT.
I BELIEVE SO. AND WHAT? AND SORRY, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PART OF THE NEGOTIATION ON THESE ITEMS ON THESE NORMALLY, BUT THAT. IS THAT TRUE RIGHT NOW IS WHAT WE ARE.
SO WE JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO COME BACK TO PLANNING BOARD A THIRD TIME.
SO WE'RE SIMPLY REQUESTING THAT YOU ALLOW SOME STAFF TO WORK OUT THESE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL BEFORE WE COME BACK TO YOU AGAIN NEXT MONTH FOR FINAL PD. I THINK THE I THINK THE VENUE IS SOMEWHAT IRRELEVANT. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE MORE PRODUCTIVE AND DIRECT FOR YOU TO HAVE THESE NEGOTIATIONS IN ANOTHER SETTING.
OTHER THAN THIS MEETING, I SHARE MISS CLEMMONS CONCERN AND WOULD ONLY BE WILLING TO PROCEED TODAY.
YOU KNOW, ASSUMING 15TH CONDITION, THAT ANY REVISED CONDITIONS WERE NEGOTIATED TODAY, BE REVIEWED BY LEGAL BEFORE WE PROCEED TO THE NEXT STEP. THAT BEING SAID, I THINK EVERYTHING THAT THIS PLANNING BOARD IS PRIMARILY CONCERNED WITH HAS BEEN ADDRESSED IN THE NEW NEW PHASING PLAN. AND THE SPECIFICS OF THESE CONDITIONS ALTHOUGH NOT UNCONCERNING TO US, I THINK THE SPECIFIC DETAILS ARE MORE OF A.
ADMINISTRATIVE NATURE LESS TO DO WITH THE MORE SUBJECTIVE ELEMENTS OF THE PD.
AND. I, I KIND OF FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE MORE, MORE ACCEPTABLE AND JUST A BETTER IDEA TO PROCEED WITH KNOWING THAT THESE WILL BE NEGOTIATED AND AGREED TO PRIOR TO GOING TO FINAL.
IF THAT MEANS THAT WE CAN GET THEM THERE WITHOUT HAVING TO COME BACK HERE, THAT'S GREAT.
BUT IF NOT, THEN THAT'S THE PROCESS. I DON'T LIKE THAT THE GOVERNMENT WORKS AT SUCH A SLOW PACE, BUT SOMETIMES IT HAS TO. GREAT. YES, I, I THERE'S TOO MANY MOVING PARTS FOR ME RIGHT NOW, AND I THINK IT OUGHT TO GO BACK.
BUT I AM UNCOMFORTABLE GOING FORWARD RIGHT NOW.
WELL. WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS AT THIS POINT? I THINK YOU EITHER ALLOW THE DELIBERATIONS OR PUNT. I WOULD LIKE TO TO MENTION THAT A LOT OF THE ITEMS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS BROUGHT UP ARE RATHER MINOR WITH REGARD TO TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF WHAT STAFF HAS REQUESTED.
I WOULD SUGGEST, THOUGH, THAT CONDITION NUMBER 13.
IS ONE THAT HAS BEEN RAISED BY BOTH THIS BOARD AS WELL AS THE CITY COMMISSION AS WELL AS FDOT.
AND IT'S THE SOUND ATTENUATION WITH PROXIMITY TO I-95.
SO JUST BRIEFLY, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT PARTICULAR ONE SO THAT THE APPLICANT HAS RELATIVELY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND DIRECT. UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE WOULD LIKE THIS PARTICULAR PARTICULAR CONDITION TO PROCEED. THE APPLICANT, RIGHTLY SO, HAS QUESTIONED HOW THEY WILL BE
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HOW WILL HOW WILL THEY KNOW IF THEY'VE COMPLIED WITH THIS CONDITION? BECAUSE IT'S SORT OF BROAD AND NOT DIRECTIONAL.AND TO THE APPLICANT'S POINT, THE LANGUAGE IS A BIT VAGUE.
THE APPLICANT WILL CONDUCT A HIGHWAY TRAFFIC NOISE STUDY PER THE FDOT, PD AND E MANUAL.
CHAPTER 18 TO DETERMINE WHAT, IF ANY, NOISE ATTENUATION MEASURES SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED TO ELIMINATE THE POTENTIAL FOR TRAFFIC NOISE INTRUSION INTO THE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION. IF THE STUDY DETERMINES THE SOUND ATTENUATION WALL IS WARRANTED, IT SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED TO FDOT STANDARDS AND BE SUBMITTED AS PART OF SITE DEVELOPMENT BUILDING PERMIT.
WITH THAT SAID, WE WOULD ALSO SUGGEST THAT WE AGREE WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER THAT CONDITION 14 CONTINUE TO BE. A CONDITION OF FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL, SIMPLY BECAUSE ONCE THAT FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS APPROVED THROUGH THE CITY COMMISSION.
THAT ENTITLES THE APPLICANT TO DO EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
SO IT'S BETTER TO HAVE THAT RESOLVED PRIOR PRIOR TO FINAL DEVELOPMENT SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
CAN I RESPOND ON THOSE? LET ME LET ME TALK ABOUT THE THE EASEMENT ONE FIRST.
I MEAN, THE EASEMENT IS IS MY CLIENT'S PROBLEM TO FIX, BECAUSE IF WE HAVE AN EASEMENT THROUGH OUR PROPERTY THAT PREVENTS US FROM BEING ABLE TO SELL HOMES, SELL UNITS. THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR US THAT WE HAVE TO FIX.
OBVIOUSLY, WE CAN'T GO FORWARD WITHOUT THAT BEING FIXED, AND IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO HAVE TO GET EASEMENTS RELEASED AFTER SITE PLAN APPROVAL. OFTENTIMES IN A PIECE OF PROPERTY, YOU HAVE UTILITY EASEMENTS.
FPL EASEMENTS. DIFFERENT TYPES OF EASEMENTS THAT NEED TO GET MOVED.
YOU DON'T TYPICALLY DO IT UNTIL AFTER YOU GET YOUR SITE PLAN APPROVED, BECAUSE UNTIL YOU GET YOUR SITE PLAN APPROVED, YOU DON'T KNOW IF THINGS ARE GOING TO MOVE AROUND.
ONCE YOU GET YOUR SITE PLAN APPROVED, THEN YOU'LL GO TO THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT AND SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO MOVE THIS EASEMENT THAT GOES THROUGH HERE TO THIS LOCATION THAT CONFORMS WITH THE SITE PLAN.
SO THAT THAT'S HOW THAT'S TYPICALLY DONE. AGAIN, EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE CONDITION, ANY KIND OF CONDITION REGARDING THIS AT ALL, PULTE WOULD HAVE TO ADDRESS GETTING THAT EASEMENT MOVED BECAUSE THEY CAN'T HAVE AN EASEMENT GOING THROUGH A BUNCH OF THEIR LOTS.
THEY HAVE TO MOVE IT TO WHERE IT COMPORTS WITH WHATEVER THE FINAL APPROVED SITE PLAN IS.
AND LASTLY, WITH RESPECT TO THE EXISTING EASEMENT, THE EASEMENT THERE NOW SAYS THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS TO BUILD THE ACCESS ROAD WITHIN 365 DAYS AFTER BEGINNING SITE WORK, AND THE AMENDMENT THAT WE'VE GIVEN TO THEM CONTAINS THE SAME LANGUAGE.
SO AGAIN, WE WOULD LIKE TO TIE IT TO PLAT APPROVAL.
AND WITH RESPECT TO CONDITION 13, I REALLY CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.
IT SAYS WE'VE GOT TO GET A SOUND STUDY TO SEE IF WE CAN COMPLY WITH FDOT STANDARDS.
SO I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I THINK I'VE HEARD WHAT I NEED TO HEAR.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S POSSIBLE AT THIS POINT.
I WANT THESE NEGOTIATIONS TO CONTINUE. I WANT THEM TO BE AGREED, AND I WANT TO HAVE A SET OF CONDITIONS THAT ARE NO LONGER IN DISPUTE SO THAT WE CAN VOTE ON IT. WE NEED THAT SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
AND WITH THAT, I THINK WE HAVE NO CHOICE AT THIS POINT BUT TO TABLE THIS ITEM TO OUR NEXT MEETING.
MR. CHAIR, CAN I THERE'S THERE'S ONE KEY ELEMENT THAT I NEED TO ADDRESS.
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE ALLOW ME TO. SURE. OKAY. GO AHEAD.
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WE ARE WILLING TO COME BACK TO THIS BOARD AGAIN AFTER WE WORK OUT THESE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE YOU HEAR THE FINAL PD NEXT MONTH AS WELL.
SO WE'LL BRING THE MASTER AND THE FINAL BACK TO YOU.
BUT IF THAT CONDITION OF APPROVAL IS STILL THERE, WE WON'T BE COMPLIANT WITH IT.
SO FURTHER DISCUSSIONS OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ARE SORT OF MOOT AT THIS POINT.
SO WE WILL NOT BE BRINGING THE FINAL PD FORWARD IN NOVEMBER.
THEN? I DON'T KNOW. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT.
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT TOO. ALL RIGHT.
WE NEED THESE CONDITIONS SORTED OUT BEFORE WE HEAR YOU BACK HERE.
SO. THANK YOU. THERE'S THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO PROCEED AT THIS POINT.
I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING IS THAT YOU WOULD COME BACK FOR BOTH IN THE SAME SESSION.
WE WOULD PREFER THAT. YES. WHICH WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE.
AND I THINK ASSUMING THAT EVERYTHING CAN GET WORKED OUT IS VERY REALISTIC POSSIBILITY.
AND HOPEFULLY THAT WORKS. SO YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING THAT I'M SEEING HOLDING UP THE FINAL THAT ISN'T TIED TO RESOLVING THESE CONDITIONS.
THERE ARE A LOT OF VERY FANTASTIC FEATURES. WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT.
THIS IS A VERY GOOD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
THERE'S SOME DETAILS WE HAVE TO WORK OUT. LET'S GET THEM WORKED OUT.
VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO OFFICIALLY, I BELIEVE WE NEED A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM.
JUST ASK FOR ONE CLARIFICATION. YES. WHERE? IS THIS WHOLE PASS THESE PARCELS AT WITH COUNTY COMMISSION? HAS FUTURE LAND USE BEEN APPROVED OR WHERE WHERE WHAT HAVE THEY DONE? THE FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT IS STILL ON HOLD UNTIL THE MASTER.
SO GOING BACK TO DECEMBER 2024 THAT THIS BOARD HAS HEARD NOTHING HAS GONE TO COMMISSION YET.
CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A MOTION? YEAH. WE NEED A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM. MOTION.
I MOVE THAT, WE TABLE THIS ITEM. SECOND. ALL RIGHT.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS APPLICATION BY MISS CLEMENS.
SECOND, BY MR. EDWARDS, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
MR. JOHNSON. YES, MISS CLEMENS? YES, MR. WHITING? YES, MISS CARTER? YES, MR. EDWARDS. YES, MR. COLLINS.
YES, MA'AM. CHAIR. KISSEL. YES.
ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON. ITEM SIX G. SITE PLAN.
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BEV SMITH. KIA. ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON.WE MIGHT TAKE A RECESS. MAYBE AFTER THIS. THIS NEXT ONE.
WE'VE BEEN HERE A WHILE. LET'S SEE. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET THROUGH.
WE GOT AN EASY ONE FOR US. I HOPE SO. I BELIEVE SO.
YEAH. ALL RIGHT. BOARD. SO AGAIN, ON BEHALF OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, WE BRING BEFORE YOU A MAJOR SITE PLAN FOR BEV SMITH KIA DEALERSHIP, WHICH IS LOCATED AT FIVE 5560 SOUTH US HIGHWAY ONE.
PARCEL ID IS 3403Ā 502030Ā 20004. IN SUMMARY, A MAJOR SITE PLAN APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED FOR DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN REVIEW.
BEV SMITH IS SEEKING APPROVAL TO DEVELOP A NEW CAR SHOWROOM AND DEALERSHIP BUILDING.
THE PROPERTY ZONING IS C3. FUTURE LAND USE IS RL LOW DENSITY.
HERE IS A SITE LOCATION OF THE AREA WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 9.63 ACRES.
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AGAIN, THE FUTURE LAND USE IS RL LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.ZONING. SEE THREE. GENERAL. COMMERCIAL. SITE PLAN DETAILS.
THE OVERALL BUILDING FOOTPRINT IS PROPOSED TO BE 40,791FT².
BUILDING HEIGHT 45. PARKING TOTAL 487, WHICH IS BROKE DOWN TO 480 SPACES SEVEN ADA 284 OF THOSE SPACES ARE RESERVED FOR CAR INVENTORY. A CAR WASH WILL BE ON SITE, AS WELL AS A WET POND OVER AN ACRE.
HERE IS A BUILDING DESIGN WITH THE RENDERINGS AND THE PROPOSED COLORS, AND THIS SHOWS THE EAST, WEST, SOUTH AND NORTH ELEVATION OF THE NEW DESIGN BUILDING.
LANDSCAPE PLAN. THE DESIGN REQUIRES A TOTAL OF 286 TREES.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO PROVIDE THOSE TREES IN ADDITION TO TREES.
IT REQUIRES 912 SHRUBS. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO PROVIDE 931 SHRUBS.
AND WE SEE THE TEN FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT SURROUNDS THE PROPERTY.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF THE SITE PLAN WITH THE FOLLOWING FIVE CONDITIONS ONE.
PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF ANY SITE CLEARING AND DEMOLITION PERMITS, THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE A TREE MITIGATION SURVEY AND COORDINATE WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE ARBORIST FOR THE REQUIRED MITIGATION OF THE CITY'S REGULATED TREES PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED AS A RESULT OF THIS SITE.
DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY NUMBER TWO.
NUMBER THREE NZLR PERMIT WILL BE REQUIRED FOR OUTFLOW IN CANAL NUMBER 17.
NUMBER FOUR STRIPING AND WHEEL STOPS WILL BE REQUIRED IF THE CAR INVENTORY SPACES ARE LATER CONVERTED TO PUBLIC PARKING, AND NUMBER FIVE IN UPDATED ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT REPORT IS NEEDED PRIOR TO THE DPCR SUBMITTAL.
THANK YOU, MR. DRIVER. COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS OR THE CONDITIONS PAGE? YES, PLEASE. THANK YOU.
YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WE HAD DISCUSSED LOOKING AT THIS THIS HERE, THE ELEVATIONS THE THE ARCHITECTURAL COMPONENTS. HOW WOULD YOU EVALUATE THIS ELEVATION? BUILDING DESIGN WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS THE CITY HAS PUT FORTH.
HOW WOULD WE EVALUATE IT? YEAH. DO YOU DO YOU SEE THIS BUILDING DESIGN IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR ARCHITECTURAL GUIDELINES OR CAR DEALERSHIP? WE DO. I WAS JUST COMMENTING ON THE YOU KNOW, WEST ELEVATION BEING THE VISIBLE PORTION OF THE BUILDING VIEWABLE FROM US.
ONE THAT WHILE THE SHOWROOM SECTION, WHAT I ASSUME IS THE SHOWROOM SECTION OF THE BUILDING LOOKS VERY NICE AND FRONT FACING THE REMAINING PORTION OF THE BUILDING SEEMS KIND OF FLAT ARCHITECTURALLY.
I GUESS WE CAN BRING IT UP WITH THE APPLICANT WHEN HE COMES FORWARD TO SPEAK.
HELLO. GOOD AFTERNOON. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS AARON STANTON. I'M WITH MV ENGINEERING.
I'M THE REPRESENTATIVE HERE FOR THE APPLICANT.
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I'VE ALSO GOT MIKE SMITH HERE AS A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE OWNER.AND AS FAR AS THE ARCHITECTURAL WE'RE COMPLYING WITH CORPORATE KIA, THEY HAVE SOME STANDARDS.
AND WE ALSO ARE COMPLYING WITH CITY OF FORT PIERCE STANDARDS HERE FOR THE ARCHITECTURE AS WELL.
WE DON'T HAVE THE ARCHITECT HERE TO SPEAK TO IT, BUT WE'VE MET ALL THE CODES THAT WERE REQUIRED.
WE PROVIDE WE PROVIDED THE COLOR BOARDS AND AN ADDITION.
AND ONE THING I WANTED TO SAY IS I THINK THE IN THE REPORT, IT SAID THAT WE WERE 45FT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A MAXIMUM, BUT WE ARE ONLY 25FT IN HEIGHT.
AND TYPICALLY THE SHOWROOMS ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE GLASS AND THEY'VE GOT SOME KIND OF SHOWROOM ELEMENTS, AS YOU WOULD SPEAK TO. THE OTHER PART OF THE BUILDING IS THE SERVICE BAYS AND TYPICALLY THOSE ARE THEY CAN BE A LITTLE DRAB AND KIND OF PLAIN, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT MOST CAR DEALERSHIPS ARE.
AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE OTHER THAN THOSE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THIS IS A VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD APPLICATION.
LOOK YOU KNOW, AS, AS VIEWED FROM US ONE. YEAH.
WE WILL HAVE A NICE WE HAVE A NICE LANDSCAPING PLAN.
SO WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO MOSTLY SEE IN THAT LOW PROFILE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF HEDGING, A LOT OF VEGETATION ON THE WESTERN PROPERTY BOUNDARY ADJACENT TO US ONE.
MR. DRIVER. COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN? THE SITE PLAN SO YOU CAN KIND OF.
THAT WAS GOOD ACTUALLY, WITH THE LANDSCAPING THERE.
YEAH. SO WE DO HAVE SOME TREES ALONG US. ONE THERE THAT WILL KIND OF BREAK UP, YOU KNOW, JUST THE LOOK OF A DRAB BUILDING RIGHT OFF AS YOU GO BY IT.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? HEARING NONE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. CAN YOU PLEASE SIGN IN, MR. STANTON? YES. THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION, PLEASE COME FORWARD. AT THIS TIME, SEEING NONE, I WILL SEND IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
HEARING NONE, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH THE FIVE CONDITIONS.
SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH FIVE CONDITIONS BY MISS MR. COLLINS. SECOND BY MR. WHITING. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
MISS CLEMENS. YES, MR. WHITING? YES, MISS CARTER? YES, MR. EDWARDS? YES, MR. COLLINS. YES, MA'AM.
MR. JOHNSON. YES, CHAIR. CHRYSLER? YES. OKAY.
DOES ANYBODY NEED A BREAK? YES. LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS, AND WE WILL RECONVENE FOR OUR LAST ITEM. OH. WE LEFT OFF ITEM SIX H
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MAJOR SITE PLAN AMENDMENT, PRECAST SPECIALTIES.CAN YOU ALL SEE MY SCREEN OR THE SEE THE CITY SEAL? OH, IT JUST CHANGED OR IT WENT BLANK. I JUST CHANGED IT.
IT'LL TAKE A MINUTE. THANK YOU. I DIDN'T WANT TO START UNTIL YOU COULD SEE EVERYTHING.
GOOD AFTERNOON. BOARD. MY NAME IS CHRIS ANDERSON, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.
OUR NEXT PROJECT THIS AFTERNOON IS PRECAST METAL SPECIALTIES.
MAJOR SITE PLAN AMENDMENT SITE 2025 00017. THE APPLICANT IS MARK LANDSMAN, REPRESENTED BY HALEY WARD. THE PROJECT SITE LOCATION IS 3898 SELVAGE ROAD ON PARCEL 243250001000-5. THE APPLICANT IS CONSIDERED IS REQUESTING CONSIDERATION OF A MAJOR SITE PLAN AMENDMENT.
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SLASH WORKHOUSE OR WORKSHOP WITH ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS.SO PHASE ONE WOULD BE THE BATCH PLANT WITH ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS.
EXCUSE ME SOME OF THE HISTORY FOR THE SITE. IT WAS ORIGINALLY ANNEXED INTO THE CITY LIMITS IN 2004 VIA ORDINANCE K 310, DESIGNATED WITH AN I OR HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ZONING A REZONING FROM INDUSTRIAL HEAVY WHICH WAS A SAINT LUCIE COUNTY CLASSIFICATION TO I-3 HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, WAS GRANTED BY ORDINANCE 16 026 IN NOVEMBER 2016.
THE PROJECT. THE APPROVED PROJECT SET OUT TO DEVELOP A 76,100 SQUARE FOOT PRE-CAST CONCRETE PRODUCTION FACILITY IN MULTIPLE PHASES, LOCATED ON THE 75 ACRE PARCEL LOCATED AT 78, 37, 3798 SELVAGE ROAD.
THE CONCRETE OPERATION HAS BEEN IN OPERATION SINCE 2017 2018.
JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF SITE LOCATION I BELIEVE THAT IS CROSS ROAD OR GLADES CUT OFF AND THEN SILVERT'S NORTH SOUTH AND EDWARDS AGAIN, THIS IS A 75 ACRE SITE.
THE EXISTING ZONING IS I3. THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE IS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.
AND THEN YOU SEE SOME OF THE PHASING. PHASE ONE IS INDICATED BY THIS BOX THAT MY CURSOR IS CIRCLING.
THAT INCLUDES THE BATCH PLANT ALONG WITH THE ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS FOR SOME PART FOR MATERIAL BINS AND CIRCULATION OF VEHICLES PHASE TWO WOULD BE THIS MUCH LARGER. WELL, MAYBE NOT MUCH LARGER, BUT THE SECONDARY BOX WHICH WOULD INCLUDE EXPANSION OF THE ROADWAY DOWN TO AN OFFICE WORKSHOP AREA, ASSOCIATED PARKING.
ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS, AND IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO READ ON THIS MAP.
BUT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN INCLUDES A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF VEGETATION BUFFERING ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE, AS WELL AS THE DETENTION FACILITY TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE SOUTHEAST OF THE PROJECT SITE.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF HAS WORKED OUT WITH THE APPLICANT IS A TIMETABLE OF DEVELOPMENT.
PHASE ONE WOULD INCLUDE THE BATCH PLANT, AGGREGATE BINS AND WASH OUT THE TREATMENT POND, DISPATCH OFFICE AND THREE PARKING SPACES AND THE LANDSCAPING SLASH WALL TO BEGIN BY JANUARY 2026 AND BE COMPLETED BY DECEMBER 2027.
PHASE TWO WOULD BEGIN IN JANUARY 28TH AND WOULD INCLUDE PARKING LOTS AND LIGHTING, DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE, WATER MAIN EXTENSION AND HYDRANT GRINDER, STATION ENFORCEMENT FORCE MAIN, AND THE REMOVAL OF TEMPORARY TRAILERS THAT WOULD BE COMPLETED.
THAT PHASE WOULD BE COMPLETED BY DECEMBER 2030.
HERE IS AN ELEVATION OF THE PROPOSED. I BELIEVE THIS IS THE OFFICE TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN PHASE TWO.
SO RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON FINDINGS THAT THE PROPOSAL IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THAT THE PROPOSAL PROMOTES THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE THROUGH SITE DESIGN AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
THE PROPOSED AND REVISED APPLICATION MEETS THE STANDARD STANDARDS OF THE CITY'S CODE OF ORDINANCES.
THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDS THE PLANNING BOARD MOVE FORWARD THE APPLICATION SUBJECT TO THE EIGHT CONDITIONS, AS NOTED WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. IF MOVED TO CITY COMMISSION, ALL RELEVANT DOCUMENTS WILL BE UPDATED TO REFLECT THE DETERMINATION OF THE PLANNING BOARD. FIRST CONDITION WOULD BE THE TIMETABLE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT I REVIEWED JUST EARLIER.
THIS RESPONSIBILITY INCLUDES THE REPLACEMENT OF UNHEALTHY AND DEAD TREES.
THE PROPERTY OWNER SHALL SUBMIT TO AN ON SITE INSPECTION OF THE PLANTED, PRESERVED VEGETATION,
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12 MONTHS AFTER THE ISSUANCE OF THE PHASE ONE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.IF IT IS DETERMINED THAT VEGETATION PLANTED VEGETATION IS DEAD, DISEASE OR OTHERWISE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE CODE OR ORIGINAL APPROVED TREE MITIGATION PLAN, THE PROPERTY OWNER SHALL BE PROVIDED NOTICE AND DIRECTED TO CORRECT ANY SUCH DEFICIENCIES AND REPLACE ALL NON-COMPLIANT MATERIALS WITHIN 60 DAYS. NUMBER FOUR. NO USE SHALL EXCEED THE APPLICABLE CITY OF FORT PIERCE STANDARDS FOR NOISE.
TO 7 A.M. THE APPLICANT NUMBER SIX. THE APPLICANT SHALL IMPLEMENT THE HEAVY DUTY WHITE SOUND SMART REVERSING SYSTEM ALARM OR SIMILAR TO REDUCE, AS FAR AS PRACTICABLE, THE NOISE IMPACT OF REVERSING TRUCKS AND OTHER EQUIPMENT PRIOR TO COMPLETION OF THE BATCH PLANT. PHASE ONE NUMBER SEVEN PRIOR TO COMMENCEMENT OF PHASE ONE, THE APPLICANT SHALL COORDINATE THE APPROVAL OF THE EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL PLAN WITH THE CITY ENGINEER.
THE PLAN SHALL RELATE TO THE SEQUENCE OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT SITE, INCLUDING STRIPPING AND CLEARING, ROUGH GRADING, CONSTRUCTION OF UTILITIES, INFRASTRUCTURE AND BUILDINGS, AND FINAL GRADING AND LANDSCAPING.
SEQUENCING SHALL IDENTIFY THE EXPECTED DATE OF WHICH CLEARING WILL BEGIN THE ESTIMATION.
ESTIMATED DURATION OF EXPOSURE OF CLEARED AREAS.
ALL EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL MEASURES NECESSARY TO MEET THE OBJECTIVES OF THE CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES SHALL BE MAINTAINED AND IN PLACE THROUGHOUT ALL PHASES OF CONSTRUCTION AND AFTER COMPLETION OF DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE.
WITH THAT, I AM OPEN TO ANY COMMENTS. OR I'M SORRY, QUESTIONS OF THE BOARD.
QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YES. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PHASING? YES, MA'AM. IS THAT. THIS IS THE ONE. THE SLIDE? NO, THE WITH THE THE THE TIMETABLE. OKAY, JUST A SECOND.
RIGHT HERE. I NOTICED THAT YOU HAVE DISPATCH OFFICE AND PARKING SPACES IN PHASE ONE.
BUT I WAS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE OFFICE SPACE AND THE PARKING WERE GOING TO BE IN PHASE TWO.
THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I THINK WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO FIND IS THERE IS A SCALE TO THOSE BUILDINGS.
BUT I'M GOING TO LET THE APPLICANT DETAIL THAT OUT.
BUT THE OTHER IS A MORE PERMANENT LOCATION FOR THOSE OPERATIONS.
BUT I DON'T SEE ANY BUILDING LOCATED IN PHASE TWO AT ALL.
OH, LET ME LET ME POINT THAT OUT TO YOU. I'M SAYING ON ON YOUR TIME SHEET.
OH, I UNDERSTAND. WE WILL. WE WILL CERTAINLY NEED TO UPDATE THAT.
THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. THAT IS WHY I'M CONFUSED AS THERE SHOWS NO BUILDING.
YOU HAVE AN EXCELLENT POINT. AND IF THAT IS AN ACCEPTABLE AMENDMENT, WE WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THE BUILDING CONSTRUCTED WITHIN THE TIME FRAMES OF PHASE TWO OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT. ANY OTHER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE. PLEASE SIGN IN AND STATE YOUR NAME. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN. AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS MARK LANDSMAN.
WE DO BELIEVE THAT THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE AN ENHANCEMENT FOR THE COMMUNITY AS THE FIRST PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT, THE BATCH PLANT IS GOING TO REDUCE TRUCK TRAFFIC.
SO CURRENTLY CONCRETE IS MADE OFF SITE AND TRUCKED INTO THE SITE.
THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED WITHIN PHASE ONE.
ALSO IN PHASE ONE, WE'RE GOING TO ENHANCE THE LANDSCAPING ON THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY BOUNDARY, WHICH IS GOING TO SCREEN THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH HERE.
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PHASE TWO, WHEN THAT COMES ONLINE, THAT'S GOING TO BE A PUBLIC BENEFIT AS WE ARE GOING TO EXTEND THE WATER MAIN FROM THE FORT PIERCE CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL ON THE EAST ALL THE WAY TO THE WESTERN PROPERTY BOUNDARY.WE'VE ALREADY WORKED THAT OUT WITH FPOA. THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH US ON AN EASEMENT ON THEIR SOUTHERN PROPERTY BOUNDARY, AND THEY'RE EVENTUALLY GOING TO TIE IN TO THE TO THE WEST TO IMPROVE THE WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GRINDER SYSTEM WITH A FORCE MAIN THAT CONNECTS OUT TO SELBITZ.
SO WE'RE GOING TO COME OFF OF WELL AND SEPTIC AND WE'RE GOING TO BE SERVED BY FPO. SO YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE OF US, INCLUDING MYSELF, ARE NOT SUPER FAMILIAR WITH THE TYPE OF PROCESSES GOING ON ON THIS.
CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE BATCH PLANT DEVELOPMENT? LIKE WHAT IS THE BATCH PLANT DOING? WHAT IS WHAT IS THAT ADDING TO THE SITE? OR A LITTLE MORE DETAILS WHEN IT COMES TO DAY TO DAY ACTIVITIES? SURE. THANK YOU. HELLO.
WE ARE A TRADITIONAL PRECAST. CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? OH. I'M SORRY. DEAN LOCKE. SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE.
AND WE ALSO ARE A UTILITY CONTRACTOR. WE MAKE ALL OF FPL'S POLES A HOST OF UNDERGROUND UTILITY PRODUCTS, A LOT OF THINGS LIKE THAT. OKAY, SO IS THE IS THE BATCH PLANT A STRUCTURED BUILDING OF SOME KIND, OR IS IT ALL. IT'S JUST IT'S A BATCHING SYSTEM.
CURRENTLY OUR CONCRETE IS IS MADE AND BROUGHT ON TO THE PROPERTY.
WE WOULD MAKE OUR OWN CONCRETE AT THAT POINT.
IT'S IT'S MORE OF A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAN IT IS A BUILDING.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS IN RELATION TO IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
IS THE BATCH PLANT GOING TO REPRESENT A GREATER AMOUNT OF PARTICULATE DISTRIBUTION IN THE AIR THAN WHAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY DOING ON SITE NOW? I DON'T THINK SO. IT'S GOING TO BE GOVERNED BY DEP, AND IT'S GOT A LOT OF EQUIPMENT IN PLACE TO CONTAIN THAT. OKAY. WE ARE PROPOSING WASH DOWN AREAS IN PHASE ONE THAT GOES ALONG WITH THE BATCH PLAN.
AND WE ARE CURRENTLY UNDER JURISDICTION OF DEP.
OKAY. SO WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO MEET THOSE AIR QUALITY CONDITIONS AT THE STATE.
YEAH. I SEE THE THE, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY WITH YOUR SITE PLAN HERE IS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE EXTENSIVE SITE WORK THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING HERE, THE ADDITION OF THE TREES.
JUST IN THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD AND THE OPERATIONS GOING ON IN THIS AREA ARE, YOU KNOW A SUBJECT OF SOME CONCERN, I WOULD EVALUATE IT AS PROBABLY NOT THE GREATEST PLANNING EVER DONE IN THE HISTORY OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, BEING BEING BEING WHAT IT IS AND, YOU KNOW, THE SITUATION THAT WE'VE ALL INHERITED IT DOES SOUND LIKE YOU GUYS ARE BEING AS GOOD A NEIGHBOR AS YOU CAN BE CONSIDERING THE OPERATIONS THAT YOU HAVE GOING ON.
I ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED A COUPLE OF THESE CONDITIONS.
ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? WHAT YOU SAID RIGHT OFF THE TOP, THE BATCH PLANT IN IN THE PRESENTATION HERE.
WAS THERE ANY ELEVATIONS OF ANY. NO. SORRY. I HAVE A HARD TIME KEEPING MY MOUTH SHUT. FOR THE RECORD, BRAD CURRY WITH HALEY WARD.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE LOCATION OF THE BATCH PLANT IS IN THE EXTREME NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY.
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AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE AN AERIAL WOULD.WOULD PROBABLY BE NICE TO SHOW THAT WE ARE LOCATED QUITE A BIT DISTANCE OFF OF SELVAGE.
AND THERE'S ACTUALLY LIKE AN EASEMENT THAT WE CROSS AND WE CROSS LIKE THREE OTHER CONCRETE PLACES.
AND THEN THE GUY JUST TO THE NORTH OF US IS AN ASPHALT PLACE. SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE IN, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE ARE SOME SOME SINGLE FAMILY STUFF TO THE SOUTH OF US, BUT WHERE WE'VE LOCATED THE BATCH PLANT IS QUITE HONESTLY, THE MOST INDUSTRIAL PART OF THE PROPERTY, MEANING THAT IT'S UP NEXT TO OTHER INDUSTRIAL PIECES.
AND THEN IN ADDITION, THIS APPLICATION WILL INCREASE THE BUFFERING ALONG THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE.
I THINK WE CAN ALL THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, BEING NEXT TO AN INDUSTRIAL, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS PROBABLY DOESN'T MAKE THE MOST SENSE, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE BEST OUT OF WHAT WE'VE GOT BY INCREASING THE LANDSCAPING AND AGAIN, THE IMPACT ON THE ROADWAYS. I DON'T I MEAN, EVERY PIECE OF CONCRETE CURRENTLY THAT GETS POURED IN THIS AREA COMES FROM A TRUCK THAT HAS TO DRIVE DOWN SELVAGE ROAD TO GET TO THIS SITE. SO THIS WILL ACTUALLY BRING THE CONCRETE MANUFACTURING ONTO SITE.
SO THEY'LL BRING, YOU KNOW, ONE SAND TRUCK OF SAND, ONE TRUCK OF CONCRETE, THAT SORT OF THING ONCE A WEEK INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, TEN TRUCKS A DAY. SO IT'S A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT TO THE COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION. PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. SEEING NONE, I'LL SEND IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
WAS THIS BY A SCHOOL? CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL IS TO THE EAST.
RIGHT TO THE WEST. OKAY, EAST TO THE EAST. YES, SIR.
I WILL SAY, AS A SENIOR MEMBER OF THIS BOARD, ONCE AGAIN I REMEMBER WHEN YOU GUYS FIRST CAME TO US BACK IN HOWEVER MANY YEARS AGO, IT WAS A BIG CONCERN WAS ABOUT THE DUST AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS PRIOR TO NOW.
IT'S NOT LIKE YOU ALL ARE BRINGING A NEW BUSINESS TO THIS COMMUNITY.
THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT. THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
SORRY. I THINK IT'S A GREAT SITE PLAN. I'D LOVE TO SEE EXISTING BUSINESSES EXPAND.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT? WHAT WE'D BE LOOKING FOR, SO I GUESS. I MEAN, SPEAKING OF, LIKE, DUST REDUCING THE NOISE POLLUTION, REDUCING NOISE POLLUTION, WHICH IS GREAT. I MEAN, ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT DUST? BECAUSE, I MEAN, THEY'RE GOING TO PRODUCE MORE DUST.
AND EVEN THOUGH THERE'S REQUIREMENTS TO MITIGATE THAT, IT IS STILL AN INCREASE FOR THE AREA IN TOTALITY, RIGHT? AND I MEAN, A SCHOOL BEING NEAR YOU HAVE RESIDENCES NEARBY AS WELL.
I DON'T. THAT THAT THAT'S AN ISSUE. I GUESS THE CONCERN FOR ME JUST IN GENERAL FOR HAVING THIS THEN CONCRETE BEING MADE ON SITE AND PRODUCING MORE AIR POLLUTION. WHETHER OR NOT I NEED TO STATE THAT IT IS A CONCERN. YEAH, WELL, WHEN I FIRST STARTED LOOKING AT THIS APPLICATION YOU KNOW, WHAT STUCK OUT TO ME IS. THE OPPORTUNITY IT PRESENTS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE OPERATING A BUSINESS NOW YOU KNOW, IT'S AN IT'S AN INDUSTRIAL APPLICATION THAT, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORS SCHOOL THAT NEIGHBORS SOME RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN WITHOUT COMPLAINTS AND NOT BEEN WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, THEIR, YOU KNOW, SOME ISSUES JUST RELATED TO THE WAY THAT THESE DIFFERENT ZONES ARE KIND OF SET UP NEXT TO EACH OTHER, WHICH IS ANOTHER GOOD REASON WHY YOU NO GOOD PLANNING WOULDN'T GENERALLY ALLOW FOR THIS KIND OF THING TO HAPPEN AGAIN.
WE'RE INHERITING A SITUATION. WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE BEST WITH IT.
AS THE APPLICANT IS AND AS STAFF IS. AND BUT WHAT I SEE HERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING THROUGH A AN EXPANSION, BECAUSE THEIR BUSINESS HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL, BECAUSE THEY'RE INCREASING THEIR PRODUCTION AND DEVELOPING THEIR SITE.
WE GET TO GO THROUGH THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL PROCESS, WHICH COMPELS THEM TO ADD FEATURES TO THEIR SITE THAT THEY WOULDN'T NEED TO DO OTHERWISE. SO LINING THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY WITH MORE TREES, WHICH WILL CERTAINLY HELP WITH CONTROLLING THE DUST,
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IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULDN'T REALLY COMPEL THEM TO DO NOW.SO IT'S IT'S NOT IDEAL. BUT GIVEN WHAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH, I THINK THIS IS IN MY OPINION, YOU KNOW, THE BEST THING THAT WE COULD HOPE FOR IS THAT A BUSINESS OPERATING ON A PROPERTY LIKE THIS IS SUCCESSFUL ENOUGH THAT THEY'RE EXPANDING, THEY'RE GROWING, AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP IS GOING TO GIVE THEM THE, YOU KNOW, AFFORD THEM THE ABILITY TO IMPROVE THEIR SITE IN A WAY THAT'S NOT JUST GOING TO HELP THEM, BUT HELP THE COMMUNITY AROUND THEM AS WELL.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I MOVE FOR APPROVAL WITH THE EIGHT CONDITIONS.
SECOND, WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL WITH EIGHT CONDITIONS BY MISS CLEMENS.
SECOND, BY MR. WHITING. I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT THAT ONE OF THE CONDITIONS BEING, THE SCHEDULE OF PHASING ELEMENTS IS GOING TO BE AMENDED TO INCLUDE THE OFFICE BUILDING. THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDING.
YES. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MR. WHITING? YES. MISS CARTER? YES. MR. EDWARDS. YES. MR. COLLINS. YES, MA'AM.
MR. JOHNSON. YES. MISS CLEMENS. YES. CHAIR. CHRYSLER.
YES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM SEVEN COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND SIGN IN. HELLO, MY NAME IS JAMES CLASBY.
I'M ACTUALLY A SAINT LUCIE COUNTY COMMISSIONER, AND I JUST WANTED TO COME BEFORE YOU THIS THIS AFTERNOON TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. I ACTUALLY DO FIND TIME TO WATCH THE MEETINGS OCCASIONALLY.
THANK YOU, MR. CLASBY. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TODAY? HEARING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM EIGHT BOARD COMMENTS.
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MR. JOHNSON, I BELIEVE YOU HAD SOMETHING. I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR YOU, CHRIS.HOW CAN WE POTENTIALLY WORK TOWARDS VIEWING OR REVIEWING OVERLAY DISTRICTS IN, SAY, WHITE CITY, DOWNTOWN, THE BEACHES, POTENTIALLY HIBISCUS PARK, THINGS OF THAT NATURE TO KIND OF OVERSEE WHAT COULD BE COMING OR WHAT. WE'RE. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. AND OR NOT HAVE TO GO AND LOOK INTO SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE POTENTIALLY NOT LOOKING FOR IN THE FUTURE.
OKAY. THERE'S A LOT TO UNPACK THERE. SO LET ME DO JUST A LITTLE BIT.
I'M SORRY. SUNRISE LAKES. YEAH. SUNRISE LAKES PROJECT IS IS A MATTER OF DENSITY AND THE DESIRE TO HAVE LESS DENSITY THAN WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN ALLOWS.
AND IF THAT IS A CONCERN FOR THE BOARD IN GENERAL, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE AND I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, KNOCK, KNOCK YOU IN THE HEAD WITH IT TOO MUCH.
BUT WE ARE GOING THROUGH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THAT FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.
SO IF THERE ARE AREAS OF CONCERN. WHITE CITY OUT WEST, WHEREVER IT MIGHT BE.
I'D SUGGEST GETTING WITH MRS HIDE WITH TREASURE COAST PLANNING AND EXPRESSING THAT CONCERN.
THAT THAT HAS SOME WEIGHT AND I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE LAST ONE, BUT.
IT'S A 20 YEAR DOCUMENT THAT GUIDES DEVELOPMENT FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
SO AND WE USE IT EVERY DAY. WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS AROUND IT WITH APPLICANTS, I PROMISE YOU, EVERY DAY. THAT WOULD BE MY FIRST SUGGESTION IS TO TO PROVIDE THAT INPUT.
AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE HER EMAIL, WE CAN WE CAN GET THAT TO YOU.
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THE SECOND THING. THERE'S ALREADY AN OVERLAY DISTRICT ON THE ON THE BARRIER ISLAND.AND I DON'T KNOW IF OF OVERLAY DISTRICTS ARE NECESSARILY THE RIGHT MECHANISM.
MAYBE IT IS A RESULT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE THAT REZONINGS IN THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS THAT THE LAND USE PLAN CALLS FOR LESS DENSITY ARE REZONED TO, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF FOUR UNITS PER ACRE, IT'S A, AN E1 OR AN E2 TYPE OF ZONING SO THAT YOU'RE GETTING THAT 1 OR 2 ACRES OR, I'M SORRY, DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. SO THEY TRANSLATE TO THOSE QUARTER ACRE, HALF ACRE LOTS THAT, THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.
SO THERE ARE METHODS OF EXPLORING THAT. DO YOU HAVE LIKE SPECIFIC SUGGESTIONS ON, ON WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE SO THAT WE CAN, LIKE, TAKE THAT BACK? NOT NECESSARILY ANYTHING SPECIFIC, BUT BEING THAT WE SEE WHAT YOU'D LIKE NOT TO SEE, WELL, NOT NECESSARILY THAT, BUT IF YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE A POTENTIAL AREA OF CONCERN TO WHERE WE KNOW WHAT'S VIABLE WITHIN THE CODE. AND THEN ONE OF MY QUESTIONS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE WITHIN THE MUNICIPAL CODE.
IS THERE POTENTIALLY A GOOD CHEAT SHEET FOR US TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW, TO SEE WHAT IS THERE AND WHAT'S BEING ASKED OF, TO POTENTIALLY UNDERSTAND MORE OF WHAT WE'RE REVIEWING? YEAH, I LOOK, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO BE A PLANNER THERE'S A SECTION OF OUR CODE.
IT'S CALLED BASIC ZONING DISTRICTS, AND IT'S ONE THAT WE GO TO.
WHAT DOES THAT ALLOW? AND IT TELLS YOU, EXCUSE ME? IT TELLS YOU WHAT USES ARE ALLOWED IN THAT DISTRICT UNDER A TABLE AND THEN SPECIFICALLY IN EACH DISTRICT, HOW BIG THE LOT HAS TO BE, THE SETBACKS FOR THAT.
AND THEN THAT MAY GIVE YOU A BETTER IDEA OF JUST EXACTLY WHAT SHAPE OF AREA THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT WITH ANY PROJECT CONSIDERATION IN THAT DISTRICT. AND THEN MY LAST ONE WAS ON THE SCAR LAKE SKYLARK PROJECT.
THERE WAS A TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMENT IN REGARDS TO THE CITY TAKING OVER THE ROAD, POTENTIALLY FROM THE COUNTY AT THIS POINT FROM ENGINEERING OR PUBLIC WORKS. HOW DOES THAT PROCESS WORK IN REGARDS OF A TRANSITION FROM THAT FROM THE COUNTY TO OUR ASSET MANAGEMENT? YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE TO BE COMPLETELY HONEST WITH YOU.
COMMISSIONER OR MR. JOHNSON, I DON'T KNOW. I'VE BEEN HERE A MONTH, SO GIVE ME A LITTLE.
A LITTLE BIT OF CREDIT. I CAN SPECULATE, THOUGH.
FIRST OFF. FROM AN ENGINEERING POINT OF VIEW, IS IT WITHIN THE CITY? IF IT'S NOT WITHIN THE CITY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAINTAIN IT. SECOND, IS IT UP TO OUR STANDARDS? IS IT PAVED? A LOT OF I UNDERSTAND THAT A LOT OF COUNTY MAINTAINED FACILITIES ARE NOT TO THE SAME LEVEL STANDARD AS CITY ROADS. SO BEFORE THE CITY WOULD WANT TO UNDERTAKE MAINTENANCE OF A FACILITY COMING IN, WE'D WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DONE RIGHT. AND THEN LASTLY, I THINK IT'S A A POINT OF DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE RIGHT PEOPLE AND PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING AT BOTH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY LEVEL.
AND BEYOND THAT, I AM TOTALLY IN THE DARK, SO I WOULD BE LEADING YOU DOWN THE WRONG PATH.
BUT I THINK THOSE ARE SOME COMPONENTS THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
WITHOUT BEING REALLY TUNED INTO THE PROCESS AS IT EXISTS NOW.
WELL, READING THAT COMMENT WITHIN THAT REVIEW MORE SO MADE ME THINK TO.
TO LOOK INTO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE ANNEX TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE POTENTIALLY RECEIVING SOMETIMES OR ANNEXING WITHIN, BECAUSE NOW THERE'S GOING TO BE POTENTIALLY A COST FOR US TO SERVICE OR MAINTAIN THESE ITEMS THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN ON OUR BOOKS OR WE WEREN'T POTENTIALLY READY FOR THAT.
THAT IS AN EXCELLENT POINT. AND IT'S A IT DOES A PENCIL OUT QUESTION, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S GREAT TO ADD PROPERTY TO THE TAX ROLLS, BUT DOES THE ACCUMULATED RELATED BENEFITS OVER A CERTAIN PERIOD THAT WE COLLECT IN TAXES ACTUALLY PAY FOR THE SERVICES.
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AND THAT'S NOT JUST ROADS, THAT'S FIRE. I'M SORRY.BUT YOU HAVE A GREAT POINT. THANK YOU. YEAH. MR. JOHNSON, THAT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE BULLET POINTS IN THE PRESENTATION MISS HITE GAVE TODAY.
TALKING ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE LARGER CONCEPT OF YOU KNOW, DEFINING A MORE CONTIGUOUS BORDER TO THE CITY IS THAT THAT WOULD UNQUESTIONABLY RESULT IN BRINGING IN COUNTY ROADS INTO THE CITY AND THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH BRINGING THEM UP TO OUR STANDARDS AND MAINTAINING THEM. SO IT'S IT.
YEAH, IT IS A BALANCING ACT THAT ANNEXATION SPECIFICALLY WAS A REALLY UNIQUE ONE, CONSIDERING.
I MEAN, IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE A REMAINING ISLAND OF COUNTY PROPERTY ON A YOU KNOW, IN AN OTHERWISE CITY NEIGHBORHOOD. AND ONE THING I WANTED TO COMMENT ABOUT WHAT YOU BROUGHT UP WITH OVERLAY DISTRICTS.
HOW ACCESSIBLE IS THAT PROCESS? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT HISTORICALLY CITIZENS HAVE INITIATED THROUGH CONCERN, OR HAS THAT BEEN GENERATED BY STAFF TO ADDRESS SPECIFIC NEEDS? IT ALSO BRINGS UP THE QUESTION, I MEAN, AN OVERLAY DISTRICT ESSENTIALLY TAKES A SPECIFIC BORDERED PART OF OUR TOWN AND PUTS MORE RESTRICTIVE REGULATIONS, TYPICALLY ON WHAT YOU CAN'T DO IN THAT AREA. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE APPLICABLE OR APPROPRIATE ANYMORE, GIVEN THE NEW STATE STATUTES THAT ARE PUT FORTH ESTABLISHED IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE WITHIN THIS STORM RADIUS. SO ESTABLISHING NEW OVERLAY DISTRICTS SEEMS LIKE A REALLY GOOD WAY FOR, YOU KNOW, US CITIZENS WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, THE ONES THAT WROTE THESE EMAILS THAT MIGHT BE CONCERNED WITH FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, LIKE WHAT WE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR TODAY.
WELL SO YOU REFER TO SB 180, STATE BILL 180, AND I WANT TO PUT THAT TO THE SIDE FOR A MOMENT BECAUSE THERE ARE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. BUT OVERLAY DISTRICTS GENERALLY ARE A TOOL, TO YOUR POINT, TO BE MORE RESTRICTIVE OR ADD SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS.
YOU MIGHT EVEN THINK OF AN OVERLAY DISTRICT AS KIND OF A CONDITIONAL USE THAT REQUIRES A LITTLE MORE REVIEW THAN JUST A GENERAL SITE PLAN BECAUSE OF THE USE, RIGHT? BUT IN THE INSTANCE OF AN OVERLAY DISTRICT, TO YOUR POINT, GENERALLY IT'S MORE RESTRICTIVE.
SO YOU COULD DEAL WITH THAT IN TERMS OF SETBACKS, USES.
BUT ALSO IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET MORE LIKE I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
THE LAST CASE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT WAS REALLY DOING A LOT TO BUFFER ALONG THAT SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE AND THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE, I'M SORRY, THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN THE SCHOOL AND A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, AN OVERLAY DISTRICT COULD APPLY THAT AND REQUIRE THAT AS AN EXTRA CONDITION IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA IF LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, WE IDENTIFIED SOME SORT OF NEED, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF HEAT, URBAN, URBAN HEAT ISLAND IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA OF THE CITY.
SO THAT'S A SPECIAL INTEREST THAT WE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF IN OUR ZONING CODE.
CITIZEN INITIATED, I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO ANY THAT I'M AWARE OF.
THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY TO MEAN THAT THERE AREN'T CITIZEN INITIATED OVERLAY DISTRICTS, BUT I THINK I THINK AN OVERLAY DISTRICT IS A TOOL. RIGHT? SO IT IS NOT NECESSARILY THE TOOL FOR EVERY SITUATION.
FOR SB 180 THOUGH AS YOU ALL MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE THE LEGISLATURE PASSED THIS STATUTE THAT BASICALLY SAYS CITIES CANNOT DO ANYTHING MORE RESTRICTIVE OR BURDENSOME THAN WHAT THEY HAD DONE PRIOR TO AUGUST 1ST, 2024. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE WANTED TO SAY ELIMINATE A USE IN A PARTICULAR ZONING DISTRICT
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WE WOULD NOT WE WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE CHALLENGED ON THAT IN COURT IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DID THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE BODIES, BECAUSE THAT BECOMES MORE RESTRICTIVE.WELL, I COULD HAVE DONE IT IN AUGUST OR JULY OF 2024, BUT NOW IT'S SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER ALREADY 2025 AND I'M TAKING YOU TO COURT. SO AS WE ARE CRAFTING ORDINANCE UPDATES AND THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE'RE TAKING A SPECIAL LOOK AT THAT. BUT I THINK WHAT YOU'LL FIND, BASED ON WHAT I HEARD FROM THE COMMISSION TODAY, WAS THAT THEY TOLD MISS HITE. HEY, YOU WRITE THIS COMP PLAN REGARDLESS OF SB 180, BECAUSE WE NEED TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE CITIZENS. WHATEVER THAT IS. AND SO THAT'S ENCOURAGING LEADERSHIP, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
SO I WAS GLAD TO SEE THAT. DID I ADDRESS YOUR QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS? ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? MR. WHITING, I THINK YOU DID. YOU HAVE SOMETHING LATER? NEXT MONTH? YEAH. NEXT MONTH. ALL RIGHT. OKAY.
I THINK NO DIRECTOR'S REPORT SINCE THE DIRECTOR IS NOT HERE.
WE WISH HIM A GOOD TIME OFF, AND WE WOULD SEE HIM WHEN HE GETS BACK.
THAT'LL DO IT FOR TODAY. WE CAN ADJOURN. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.