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[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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CAPTIONS. . >> LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. THIS IS MONDAY, OCTOBER 20TH , 2025. PLEASE STAND FOR THE OPENING PRAYER BY PASTOR CRAIG CRAMER OF THE WESTSIDE CHURCH AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND COMMISSIONERS AND FOR THIS PRIVILEGE. LET'S GO TO PRAYER. LORD, I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR GOODNESS. WE COME HERE BECAUSE OF YOUR GOOD HAND AND I BELIEVE, GOD, IN YOUR SOVEREIGNTY YOU'VE PLACED THESE LEADERS OVER US AND WE PRAY RIGHT NOW EVEN AS THE MEETING GOES FORWARD FOR GREAT WISDOM. WE PRAY FOR YOUR PROTECTION. WE PRAY FOR YOUR BLESSING, GOD, THAT YOU WOULD LEAD AND GUIDE IT, PROTECT OUR CITY, BLESS IT, BLESS OUR COMMUNITY, BLESS THESE LEADERS FOR SERVING US, GOD. AS WE GATHER TOGETHER, WE GIVE YOU

THANKS, IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND

JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. .

>> MAYOR HUDSON? . >> PRESENT.

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

>> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK? >> PRESENT. .

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES? . >> PRESENT.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? . >> PRESENT. .

>> FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES. .

>> MOTIONS. SECOND. >> -L COMMISSIONER BRODERICK? .

[A. Make a Difference Day - GraceWay Village]

>> YES. . >> COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONER

GAINES? . >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? .

>> YES. . >> OUR FIRST PROCLAMATION IS MAKE A DIFFERENCE DAY. NATIONAL MAKE A DIFFERENCE DAY OCCURS IN OCTOBER ANNUALLY. THIS DAY IS A TIME WHERE COMMUNITY SERVICE IS CELEBRATED. PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES ARE INVITED TO VOLUNTEER AT ORGANIZATIONS IN THEIR COMMUNITIES TO CELEBRATE NEIGHBORS HELPING NEIGHBORS. WHEREAS, GRACEWAY VILLAGE IS AN ORGANIZE DEDICATED TO EASING THE LIVES OF FAMILIES IN CRISIS WHILE BUILDING A FOUNDATION FOR A HEALTHY, INDEPENDENT AND SUSTAINABLE LEAF. THEIR CAFE PROGRAM LIFE. THEIR CAFE PROGRAM SERVES MEALS FOUR DAYS A WEEK AND THEIR FORTHCOMING SHELTER WILL PROVIDE HOUSING FOR HOMELESS FAMILIES THROUGH THE COUNTY AND WHEREAS GRACEWAY VILLAGE SEEKS TO UNITE THE FORT PIERCE COMMUNITY AND WHEREAS THE MAKE A DIFFERENCE DAY IS TO BE HELD ON THE 29TH OF OCTOBER IN 2025 AND WHEREAS, RESIDENTS OF THE TREASURE COAST ARE INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IN COMMUNITY SERVICE IF THEY SO CHOOSE AND TO CELEBRATE THE GOOD THAT VOLUNTEERISM CREATES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. THEY ARE WELCOME TO PARTICIPATE AT 1780 HARTMAN ROAD, FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA, WITH GRACEWAY VILLAGE. NOW THEREFORE, I, MAYOR HUDSON, THE CITY OF HUTTO, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER 29TH, 2025, AS FORT PIERCE MAKE A DIFFERENCE DAY AND ENCOURAGE ALL RESIDENTS TO PARTICIPATE IN COMMUNITY SERVICE AND CELEBRATING THE GOOD THAT COMES WITH THE VOLUNTEER SPIRIT.

>> THANK YOU. >> YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW

WORDS, I KNOW. >> I WOULD LOVE IT. I AM A NONPROFIT LEADER. WHEN WE GET A MIC IN FRONT OF US, WE GO, RIGHT? COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME, MADAM MAYOR. MY NAME IS CRYSTAL NETHERTON, CEO OF GRACEWAY VILLAGE. OUR CAFE HAS GROWN 37%%. LAST YEAR IT WAS AT 35% GROWTH. WE'VE SERVED OVER 95,000 MEALS THIS YEAR. IT SHOWS US HOW MUCH GRACEWAY VILLAGE IS MAKING A DIFFERENCE AND ON THE OTHER HAND, HOW MUCH OUR COMMUNITY IS STRUGGLING. THESE ARE FAMILIES, INDIVIDUALS NOT HAVING A MEAL IN FRONT OF THEM AT NIGHT AND GRACEWAY VILLAGE IS PROVIDING THAT FOR THEM. OUR CLOTHING BOUTIQUE IS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL SET UP LIKE A BOUTIQUE, A STORE WHERE THEY CAN SHOP FOR FREE WITH DIGNITY AND HONOR AND IT'S AN INCREDIBLE THING TO SEE ALL THOSE KIDS' SMILING FACES WHEN THEY WALK THROUGH OUR DOORS AND APPRECIATE THE NEW SOCKS AND UNDERWEAR WE PROVIDE, BUT HERE'S WHERE I GET SUPER EXCITED ABOUT TRULY MAKING A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN FORT PIERCE. WE HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE FOR FAMILIES EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS TO GO AND IT'S A TRAGEDY AND GRACEWAY VILLAGE IS DOING SOMETHING ABOUT THAT AND IN 2026 WE WILL BE BREAKING GROUND ON OUR 10,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY FOR FAMILIES EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. THIS IS A TRUE OPPORTUNITY FOR THESE FAMILIES TO HAVE A SOFT PLACE TO LAND

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ANYWHERE FROM ONE TO 18 MONTHS DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY ARE IN LIFE AND THAT WAY WE WILL REALLY RETO EDUCATE AND TEACH AND INSTILL IN THEM SELF-SUFFICIENCY. SO I'M SUPER EXCITED ABOUT MAKING THAT DIFFERENCE. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF FINALIZING OUR DESIGNS RIGHT NOW AND HOPEFULLY, I AM SO EXCITED TO WORK WITH YOUR STAFF AND GET THOSE PERMITS APPROVED SO THAT WE CAN BREAK GROUND IN 2026. THE SOONER WE BREAK GROUND, THE SOONER CONSTRUCTION'S DONE, THE SOONER WE CAN OPEN THOSE DOORS AND REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITIES' LIVES. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU AND SHARE A LITTLE BIT.

>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. COMMISSIONER GAINES.

>> I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE AND THANK YOU. I HAD A FAMILY IN NEED AND I REMEMBER MY TOUR. YOU SAID THAT IF I EVER NEEDED YOU GUYS TO, CALL YOU. SO YOU WERE OUT, BUT I GOT SOMEBODY AND THEY GOT THE FAMILY THERE AND THE MOTHER CALLED ME BACK CRYING, EXACTLY WHAT YOU EXPERIENCED BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T EXPECT TO GO IN AND BE TREATED THE WAY SHE DID AS A BOUTIQUE WITH HER KIDS AND THE KIDS SMILING. SO I JUST WANT A PERSONAL THANK YOU FOR DOING WHAT YOU DID AND WHEN I CALLED,

YOU ANSWERED. SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. OUR TEAM IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT.

>> EVERYONE'S TREATED WITH DIGNITY, YES.

>> ABSOLUTELY. I WELCOME YOU ALL TO TOUR GRACEWAY VILLAGE PERSONALLY. I KNOW MANY OF YOU HAVE, BUT PLEASE REACH OUT TO US AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLACE AND WHEN YOU'RE ON SITE, WE OWN JUST EIGHT ACRES AND IT IS AN ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL POTENTIAL FOR WHAT THE CITY CAN DO WITH US. SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE TOGETHER AND DO THIS FAMILY SHELTER REALLY AS YOU WITH MY PARTNERS. SO I WANT TO DO THIS TOGETHER FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. OUR EVENT IS FEBRUARY 21ST AND YOU HAVE MY PERSONAL INVITATION IN YOUR PACKET. THANK YOU GUYS SO

MUCH. >> THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU

DO, CRYSTAL. >> YES, MA'AM.

[B. Gullah Geechee Month]

>> NEXT WE HAVE GULLAH GEECHEE MONTH. WHEREAS GULLAH GEECHEE PEOPLE ARE DESCENDENTS OF CAPTIVE AFRICANS FROM SEVERAL ETHNICITIES BROUGHT TO THE COASTAL FLORIDA AND BROUGHT FROM HORTICULTURE, IRRIGATION AND ANIMAL HUSBANDRY TO INCLUDE THEIR UNIQUE CREOLE LANGUAGE AND SOUTHERN FOOD TO ARTS, CRAFT AND MUSIC AND WHEREAS THE GULLAH GEECHEE HERITAGE CORRIDOR EXTENDS FROM PENDER COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA, TO ST. JOHNS COUNTY AND WHEREAS, GOVERNORS FROM NORTH CAROLINA, SOUTH CAROLINA, GEORGIA, AND FLORIDA IN 2014 DESIGNATED OCTOBER TO INCREASE AWARENESS AND UNDERSTANDING OF GULLAH GEECHEE CULTURE FACILITATING A DEEPER APPRECIATION FOR THE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS IN FLORIDA AND THE NATION AND WHEREAS, FREEDOM SEEKERS SUCH AS HAITIANS AND GULLAH GEECHEE LARGELY DESCENDENTS OF ENSLAVED AFRICANS AND A NUMBER OF FREE MEN FROM HAITI FOUGHT ALONGSIDE THE AMERICAN REVOLUTIONARIES IN PENSACOLA, FLORIDA, IN THE SIEGE OF SAVANNAH. THEY SERVED IN ST.

AUGUSTINE DURING THE FIRST SPANISH PERIOD CREATING THEIR FREEDOM AND INDEPENDENCE AND WHEREAS, THE TWO EMANCIPATED GROUPS INFLUENCED THE HAITIAN REVOLUTION WITH THEIR EXPERIENCE FIGHTING IN THE AMERICAN WAR LINKING THE AFRICAN DESCENDENTS AND WHEREAS GULLAH GEECHEE DESCENDENTS SETTLED IN THE FIRST BLACK SETTLEMENT IN NORTH AMERICA KNOWN AS FORT MOHS IN 1738 AND WHEREAS THE RESIDENT OF FORT PIERCE WAS THE FIRST TO RECOGNIZE THE FORT IN 1927 WHEN SHE WAS SENT TO ST. AUGUSTINE TO RESEARCH IT NOW THEREFORE I, LINDA HUDSON, MAYOR OF CITY OFFORT PIERCE DECLARE OCTOBER 2025 AS GULLAH GEECHEE HERITAGE MONTH AND ENCOURAGE ALL TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE HISTORY AND TRADITIONS AND CULTURES OF THE GULLAH GEECHEE PEOPLE.

>> CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT'S DIFFICULT BEING THE SON OF A DEACON, DEACONESS, GRANDSON OF A MINISTER AND GREAT GRANDSON AND GREAT GREAT GRANDSON OF A MINISTER TO ONLY TALK IN THREE MINUTES. DR. DENTON, EXCUSE ME,

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DR. HARE, POINDEXTER WILLIAMS, PAT DUVALL, STONE BROTHERS FUNERAL HOME, THERESA HAYNES, REVEREND ALBERT STONE ARE NAMES I WANTED TO REFERENCE BECAUSE THIS PROCLAMATION, I'M VERY PROUD TO RECEIVE FROM THIS WONDERFUL CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

I'M PROUD TO RECEIVE THE PROCLAMATION FROM THE WONDERFUL CITY OFFORT PIERCE BECAUSE JUST LAST WEEK FLORIDA MEMORIAL UNIVERSITY ALUMNI SIGNED AN AGREEMENT WITH ST. JOHNS COUNTY, FLORIDA, TO BUILD IN ST. AUGUSTINE THE FIRST STATE BLACK MUSEUM AND I AM HOPEFUL THAT MY CITY COMMISSIONERS, MY COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, MY STATE LEGISLATORS WORK WITH OUR CITY COMMISSION TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR AMERICAN HISTORY, FOREFATHERS, MOTHERS, BROTHERS, SISTERS WHO HAPPEN TO HAVE BEEN AFRICAN AMERICAN FROM FORT PIERCE ARE SOME OF THE FIRST PEOPLE IN THAT MUSEUM. ZORA NEAL HURSTON, I'M HOPEFUL, IS THE FIRST PERSON TIED TO THAT MUSEUM BECAUSE IT WAS ZORA NEAL HURSTON WHO TAUGHT AT FLORIDA NORMAL AND INDUSTRIAL AS IT WAS CALLED. ZORA NEAL HURSTON ALSO WAS THE FIRST PERSON TO STUDY VIA GEORGE WASHINGTON CARVER WHICH IS THE FIRST FREE BLACK SETTLEMENT IN NORTH AMERICA. IN CLOSING, I GET ASKED A LOT OF TIMES WHERE DON'T I CARE? I CARE BECAUSE IT WAS MY GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER, REVEREND JOSEPH P. HANKERSON WHO SERVED AS PRESIDENT OF THE GENERAL BAPTIST CONVENTION FOR TWO TERMS, 1899 TO 1903 AND 1908 TO 1999 AND IN THAT TIME HE HELPED TO ESTABLISH WHAT BECAME KNOWN AS FLORIDA BAPTIST INSTITUTE WHICH BECAME FLORIDA BAPTIST ACADEMY WHICH BECAME FLORIDA MEMORIAL UNIVERSITY. SO IN CLOSING I'M HOPING AS THE GREAT GREAT GRANDSON OF REVEREND J.P. HANKERSON WHO HELPED ESTABLISH FLORIDA MEMORIAL LINK TOGETHER AS A POWERFUL COMMUNITY TO HELP BRING OUR RESIDENTS FROM FORT PIERCE, ST. LUCIE COUNTY, WHO HAPPEN TO BE AFRICAN AMERICAN TO THAT NEW MUSEUM. THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU.

[C. Goodwill Presbyterian Church 102nd Anniversary]

APPLAUSE ] >> OKAY. NEXT WE HAVE GOODWILL PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH 102ND ANNIVERSARY. SO WHEREAS, GOODWILL PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH LOCATED AT 606 NORTH 29TH STREET IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE HAS SERVED AS A STEADFAST HOUSE OF WORSHIP AND COMMUNITY ANCHOR IN THE LINCOLN PARK SIDE OF OUR CITY FOR GENERATIONS WITH THE TROPICAL FLORIDA OF PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH USA AND WHEREAS, HISTORICAL RECORDS REFLECT GOODWILL PRESBYTERIAN'S LONGSTANDING PRESENCE IN FORT PIERCE, INCLUDING AN EARLY 20TH CENTURY LISTING AT 523 NORTH EIGHTH STREET. EVIDENCE OF THE CONGREGATION'S DEEP ROOTS AND CONTINUITY OF MINISTRY IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND WHEREAS, GOODWILL PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH HAS MAINTAINED RESPONSIBLE STEWARDSHIP AND CIVIC STANDING AS A FLORIDA NOT FOR PROFIT CORPORATION SINCE 1993 AND PREVIOUSLY THROUGH TRUSTEES INCORPORATED IN 1962 DEMONSTRATING SUSTAINED GOVERNANCE IN SERVICE OF ITS FAITH MISSION AND WHEREAS, THE CONGREGATION HAS SHOWN CONSISTENT COMPASSION FOR NEIGHBORS IN NEED, MOST NOTABLY IN 2020 WHEN GOODWILL PRESBYTERIAN WITH THE SUPPORT OF CHURCH LEADERS AND MEMBERS CONTRIBUTED FUNDS THAT HELPED 11 FORT PIERCE UTILITY AUTHORITY CUSTOMERS KEEP THE LIGHTS ON DURING A TIME OF ECONOMIC HARDSHIP AND WHEREAS, GOODWILL PRESBYTERIAN CONTINUES TO INVEST IN STRONG PASTORAL LEADERSHIP AND CONNECTED MINISTRY WITH RECENT PRESBYTERIAN ACTIONS RECOGNIZING REVEREND RONALD EVANS AS PASTOR IN 2024, ENSURING THE CHURCH'S SPIRITUAL VITALITY IN GOOD ORDER AND WHEREAS, THROUGH WORSHIP, OUTREACH, AND PARTNERSHIP WITH CITY AND COUNTY ENTITIES GOODWILL PRESBYTERIAN HAS ADVANCED THE COMMON GOOD, PROMOTED FAMILY STABILITY, AND UPLIFTED RESIDENTS ACROSS GENERATIONS IN FORT PIERCE AND WHEREAS, THE CHURCH LEGACY IS ENRICHED BY NOTED MEMBERS WHOSE PUBLIC SERVICE REFLECTS GOODWILL'S VALUES, INCLUDING FORMER CITY COMMISSIONER JULIUS

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LEE AND CURRENT CITY COMMISSIONER CURTIS JOHNSON JR.

WHOSE COMMITMENT TO SERVANT LEADERSHIP EXEMPLIFIES THE CONGREGATION'S IMPACT ON CIVIC LIFE. NOW THEREFORE, I, LINDA HUDSON, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SUNDAY, OCTOBER 26, 2025, IS GOODWILL PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH DAY IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND I CALL ON ALL TO CONGRATULATE THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH ON ITS 102ND ANNIVERSARY HONORING ITS FAITHFUL WITNESS, HISTORIC RESILIENCE AND CONTINUING

SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS AND WE'LL TAKE A PICTURE?

>> I WOULD SIMPLY LIKE TO SAY ON BEHALF OF GOODWILL PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, ITS ELDERS AND ITS MEMBERS, THAT GOODWILL PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, WE THANK YOU, THE COMMISSION, FOR RECOGNIZING US ON MORE THAN 100 YEARS OF MINISTERIAL SERVICE HERE IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY AND IN PARTICULAR THE GARDEN TERRACE COMMUNITY IN FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA. WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IT WAS IN 1964, '65 WHEN THE GOODWILL PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH MOVED FROM EIGHTH STREET TO THE GARDEN TERRACE COMMUNITY AND ONE OF THE FIRST CHURCHES THERE GOODWILL PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH HAS SERVICED THAT COMMUNITY SINCE THAT TIME AND EVEN UP UNTIL TODAY. SO GOODWILL PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, WE THANK YOU, MAYOR HUDSON. WE SALUTE YOU. WE THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. MAY GOD BLESS

YOU ALL. >> VERY, VERY HAPPY TO HAVE YOU.

BEFORE YOU LEAVE WE'D LIKE TO TAKE A PICTURE.

>> MADAM MAYOR, YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY SEVERAL TIMES THAT I'M A PRODUCT OF FORT PIERCE AND I WAS RAISED DURING THE TIME OF FORT PIERCE WHERE YOU WERE RECOGNIZED BY A VILLAGE. I'M LOOKING AT A LOT OF FACES STANDING RIGHT THERE THAT WAS PART OF THAT VILLAGE. SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, CHURCH, AND FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE, FOR LITTLE KIDS LIKE ME YOU'VE GOT SITTING UP HERE AND DOING THINGS IN OUR LIVES. I WANT TO PERSONALLY SAY THANK YOU TO ALL YOU GUYS. I SEE YOU. HOW YOU DOING?

>> MADAM MAYOR, GOODWILL WAS A CHURCH THAT RAISED ME AND MANY OF THESE THAT ARE STANDING BEFORE YOU POURED INTO MY LIFE AT A VERY EARLY AGE AS A YOUNG MAN AND THE PERSON THAT I AM TODAY, THE ABILITY FOR ME TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY, I OWE IT TO THE PEOPLE THAT STAND HERE. THEY ENCOURAGED ME. THEY PROVIDED AND INSTILLED IN ME THE CONFIDENCE TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT I DO TODAY AND SO THAT CHURCH THAT ALWAYS HAD THE MOTTO OF SAYING GOODWILL, A CHURCH WHERE EVERYBODY IS SOMEBODY AND JESUS CHRIST IS LORD IN EVIDENT IN WHAT YOU SEE IN MY SERVANT LEADERSHIP. WITH THAT, THANK YOU, GOODWILL. CONTINUE IT ON.

THANK YOU. >> WE'LL STAND BEHIND YOU AND TAKE A PICTURE IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP HERE.

ONE MORE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CONGRATULATIONS. 102 YEARS.

THAT'S WONDERFUL

[D. Florida City Government Week]

>> OKAY. AND OUR FINAL PROCLAMATION IS FLORIDA CITY

GOVERNMENT WEEK. >> YEA!

>> SO WHEREAS CITY GOVERNMENT IS THE GOVERNMENT CLOSEST TO THE MOST CITIZENS AND THE ONE WITH THE MOST DIRECT DAILY IMPACT UPON ITS RESIDENTS AND WHEREAS, MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT PROVIDES SERVICES AND PROGRAMS THAT ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS, MAKING THEIR CITY THEIR HOME AND WHEREAS, CITY GOVERNMENT IS ADMINISTERED FOR AND BY ITS CITIZENS AND IS DEPENDENT UPON PUBLIC COMMITMENT TO AND UNDERSTANDING OF ITS MANY RESPONSIBILITIES AND WHEREAS, CITY GOVERNMNT OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES SHARE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO PASS ALONG THE UNDERSTANDING OF PUBLIC SERVICES AND THEIR BENEFITS AND WHEREAS, FLORIDA CITY GOVERNMENT WEEK OFFERS AN IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY

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FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND CITY STAFF TO SPREAD THE WORD TO ALL CITIZENS OF FLORIDA THAT THEY CAN SHAPE AND INFLUENCE THIS BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT AND WHEREAS, THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES AND ITS MEMBER CITIES HAVE JOINED TOGETHER TO TEACH CITIZENS ABOUT MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT THROUGH A VARIETY OF ACTIVITIES. NOW THEREFORE, I, LINDA HUDSON, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER 20TH THROUGH 26TH , 2025, AS FLORIDA CITY GOVERNMENT WEEK IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS, CITY OFFICIALS, AND EMPLOYEES TO PARTICIPATE IN EVENTS THAT RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE OUR MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT.

>> THANK YOU. PLEASE SAY A FEW WORDS.

>> YES. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR, AND COMMISSIONERS. EVERY YEAR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE PARTICIPATES IN THIS STATEWIDE EVENT AND NOTHING IS DIFFERENT THIS YEAR. WE PROVIDED SOME ACTIVITIES AND WE'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE OUR RESIDENTS TO ALSO PARTICIPATE IN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO DO TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT OUR CITY AND SOME OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT IT. ONE OF THE THINGS IS WE HAVE LAUNCHED A FACEBOOK ONLY. IT'S INSPIRED BY THE CLASSIC WHERE'S WALDO AND WE TITLED IT WHERE'S THE MAYOR OR COMMISSIONER? THIS IS A DAILY PHOTO CHALLENGE THAT INVITES RESIDENTS TO SPOT OUR CITY LEADERS IN VARIOUS FORT PIERCE LOCATIONS. FOLLOW ALONG ON THE CITY'S FACEBOOK PAGE.

THE FIRST CORRECT ANSWER EACH DAY WILL WIN A FORT PIERCE SWAG BAG WITH A BUNCH OF STUFF IN IT. SO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE PARTICIPATE AND IT'S GOING TO BE FUN. I PROMISE YOU. OUR NEXT EVENT IS HOSTED BY OUR YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL. IT'S A YOUTH ESSAY CONTEST AND THE DEADLINE TO SUBMIT ESSAYS IS NOVEMBER 14TH AND THERE ENCOURAGING STUDENTS IN MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL TO SHARE THEIR IDEAS FOR SHAPING THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY.

THE TITLE OF THEIR ESSAY IS "IF I WERE ELECTED MAYOR OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE." AND SO WE'RE ENCOURAGING ALL STUDENTS TO SUBMIT THEIR ESSAYS TO BE JUDGED BY OUR YOUTH COUNCIL AND THEY WILL BE ANNOUNCED IN NOVEMBER AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE THEM IN DECEMBER. AND THE LAST THING THAT HAS GONE ON FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS IS OUR GHOST WALK OF HISTORIC FORT PIERCE OCTOBER 22ND, 23RD, AND 25TH. TAKE A STEP BACK IN TIME WITH THE GHOST OF FORT PIERCE WALKING TOURS. THESE ONE-HOUR GUIDED WALKS REVEALS THE CITY'S FASCINATING HISTORY FROM ITS 1880S MILITARY ROOTS TO ITS WORLD WAR II CONTRIBUTIONS THROUGH STORIES OF NOTABLE FIGURES AND LANDMARKS. SO, RESIDENTS, WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO PARTICIPATE, ASK QUESTIONS, AND LEARN MORE ABOUT HOW LOCAL GOVERNMENT WORKS EVERY DAY.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. MOORE. THANK YOU

[A. Officer Markeis Washington, school resource officer at Dan McCarty, was recognized in a recent message for being an outstanding representative of the Fort Pierce Police Department.]

>> OKAY. WE HAVE A LETTER, OFFICER MARKEIS WASHINGTON, SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER AT DAN MCCARTY WAS RECOGNIZED IN A RECENT MESSAGE FOR BEING AN OUTSTANDING REPRESENTATIVE OF

[8. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

THE FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE WILL KEEP THAT ON FILE. NEXT WE HAVE ADDITIONS ON ARE DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA AND

APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. >> MADAM MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE AGENDA TONIGHT UNDER 13B AN ITEM THAT I WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ABOUT. THIS ITEM IS CALLED MEDICAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WHICH WAS PULLED FROM OUR LAST DAY MEETING AGENDA. I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT AND I WANT TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT THAT POINT.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> WITH THAT I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION WITH THAT ONE ADDITION TO THE AGENDA FOR OUR DISCUSSION, ITEM 13B, MEDICAL SERVICES AGREEMENT.

>> IS THERE A SECOND? . >>

>> SECOND. . >> CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

>> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK? >> YES. .

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES? >> YES.

[9. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING PUBLIC HEARINGS Any person who wishes to comment on an agenda item which is not under Public Hearings on the Agenda may be heard at this time and must sign up to speak in advance. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? . >> YES.

>> MAYOR HUDSON? . >> YES.

>> NEXT COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

>> THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING PUBLIC HEARING. I HAVE FIVE SIGN-UPS HERE. SO YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. MS. COX WILL BE THE TIMER AND SHE'LL YOU A TEN-SECOND WARNING. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THE FIRST ONE IS -- I'M GOING TO READ THIS. I HOPE I READ THIS CORRECTLY, ROBERT PARKS. DO I HAVE THAT? REED REALTY. DO I

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HAVE THE RIGHT NAME HERE? >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON. >> IT'S RANTUS. JUST A FEW SHORT WORDS. I'M HERE MANAGING THE 212 BUILDING ABOUT 14 YEARS, BORN AND RAISED HERE DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE OF SINCE THE PANDEMIC WE'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF NOT SO MUCH OF A STRONG FOOTHOLD, BEEN A LITTLE DISARRAY, CHAOS AND UNORGANIZATION. WE TRIED OUR BEST TO CREATE GROUPS. I CAME AS A LIAISON WITH THE CITY TRYING TO HELP CONGREGATE AND I THINK THERE'S ONLY ANSWER, CALEB JULET FOR CHIEF OF POLICE. I BELIEVE HE'S THE MAN TO FIX THIS TOWN. THAT'S ALL.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. CHRISGARDNER.

>> GOOD EVENING, CHRIS GARDNER 207 ORANGE AVENUE. WANTED TO COMMENT ON 11B, JUST CURIOUS WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE EQUIPMENT AT THE SUNRISE THEATER, WHO AUTHORIZED THE RENTAL OF THE PREVIOUS EQUIPMENT AS KIND OF GONE, DISAPPEARED, I GUESS, AND WAS THERE EVER AN RFP ISSUED FOR THE RENTAL OF SUCH EQUIPMENT FROM AN EMPLOYEE? I'M JUST CURIOUS WHERE THE ACCOUNTABILITY AND WHAT THIS COMMISSION INTENDS TO DO ABOUT THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON IN OUR CITY RECENTLY? THE CITY CHRISTMAS LIGHTS DEBACLE FROM THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, JUST MONEY BEING WASTED. SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN RFP, WASN'T. I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT HAPPENED. WHEN WILL THIS COMMISSION ACTUALLY MAKE CHANGES TO STOP THE CITY WASTE? IT WILL BE OVER A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE THEATER ALONE TONIGHT WITH THIS AUTHORIZATION THAT YOU'RE GIVING. FUNNY HOW WE'RE ALWAYS BROKE. I WONDER WHY. THIS SHOULD NOT BE A REFLECTION ON THE CURRENT CITY MANAGER, MR. CHESS, AS ALL THIS STUFF HAD HAPPENED BEFORE HIS TENURE HERE. IT ALL FALLS BACK ON MCMIMS AND THE CITY LEGAL DEPARTMENT. SIX MONTHS HAVE BEEN FAR TOO SHORT FOR THE EVALUATION OF MR. CHESS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE WAKE. YOU ARE OUR COMMISSIONERS. YOU ARE CHARGED WITH THE FAIR ENFORCEMENT OF ALL APPLICABLE ORDINANCES AND LAWS THAT GOVERN THE GREAT CITY OF FORT PIERCE, EVEN ON CITY PROPERTY IT. IS TIME TO GET TO WORK DOING JUST THAT AND DEMANDING ACCOUNTABILITY FOR YOUR DIRECTIVES. I HOPE THAT YOU WILL GIVE MR. CHESS THE CONTINUING OPPORTUNITY TO FACILITATE THE NECESSARY CHANGES THE CITY CODES THAT WE HAVE ALL BEEN ASKING FOR, EVEN THIS COMMISSION, FOR YEARS. SO PLEASE THINK ABOUT THAT. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

>> THANK YOU. CHRIS EINSTEIN.

CHRIS EINSTEIN, 207 ORANGE AVENUE. REGARDING THE BLANKET PO FOR THE SUNRISE THEATRE FOR 230,000, WHERE ARE THE CHECKS AND BALANCE? SAME THING CHRISTOPHER SAID, I'M SURE A COUPLE OTHERS WILL BE BRINGING UP. I HAD TO DO A DOUBLE-TAKE WHEN I READ THAT NARRATIVE. HOW DO THINGS LIKE THIS KEEP HAPPENING? REGARDING THE SIX-MONTH EVALUATION OF CITY MANAGER RICHARD CHESS, I THINK IT WOULD BE IN THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST TO EXTEND HIS CONTRACT. THE CITY WAS EXTREMELY BROKEN WHEN HE WAS HIRED. IT'S ONLY BEEN SIX MONTHS AND IT TAKES THAT LONG, IF NOT LONGER, JUST TO LEARN THE ROPES, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE ISSUES, UNIQUE ISSUES AND CHALLENGES OUR CITY HAS AND STILL HAS. YOU CAN'T FIX THE CITY OVERNIGHT, LET ALONE SIX MONTHS. HE HAS MADE POSITIVE CHANGES IN SUCH A SHORT TIME ALREADY. I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHAT HE CAN ACCOMPLISH IN ANOTHER SIX MONTHS AND OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. PLUS, STARTING THE PROCESS OVER TO HIRE ANOTHER CITY MANAGER WOULD BE TIME CONSUMING AND COSTLY AND WHERE WOULD THE MONEY COME FROM? THAT WOULD SET US BACK TREMENDOUSLY AGAIN. WHY MAKE UNNECESSARY CHANGES? LET'S SEE WHAT OTHER POSITIVE CHANGES HE WILL MAKE IN THE UPCOMING MONTHS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

WHAT YOU'VE DONE THUS FAR. >> DARRELL EPPS.

>> GOOD EVENING. I CAME TO TALK ABOUT THE CITY MANAGER.

>> STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD FOR ME. THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

>> I'M SO EXCITED. MY NAME IS DARRELL EPPS, 1511 NORTH 24TH

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STREET. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME. IT MADE A DIFFERENCE. A COUPLE OF SATURDAYS WE'VE HAD AN APPROACH THAT HAS DELIVERED JUST AS YOU JUST HEARD THIS LOUD NOISE.

THAT'S WHAT WE GO TO BED WITH AT NIGHT, NOT PASSING BY. 30 MINUTES, ONE HOUR, TWO HOURS FROM 1:00 TO 3:00 IN THE MORNING. I WANT TO THANK YOU AND I'M SUPPORTIVE OF YOU

CONTINUING. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SIR. RICK REED.

RICK REED, 2625 SOUTH U.S. 1. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU, MR. CHESS, FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE. GOD BLESS YOU. THE OTHER THING IS -- AND I'LL READ FROM IT -- WITH OUR SUNRISE THEATRE, IT'S BEEN A DEBACLE. WE'VE HEMORRHAGED WITH THAT FOR YEARS AND WHEN YOU READ TODAY -- I SERVED LONGEST SERVING MEMBER OF THE PINEAPPLE THEATER. THE SUNRISE BEGAN LIGHTING EQUIPMENT IN 2025. THE SUNRISE THEATRE HAS AN ONGOING CONFLICT WITH A PREVIOUS EMPLOYEE. IN DECEMBER 2024 THE FORMER EMPLOYEE ARRIVED AT THE SUNRISE AND RETRIEVED HIS EQUIPMENT AND IT GOES ON AND ON AND ON. NOW YOU ALL WANT TO RENT IT FOR $17,490 A MONTH. WE WERE LECTURED DURING THE DEBACLE OF JAMES TAYLOR THAT WE COULDN'T AFFORD $60,000 FOR A SPECIAL ELECTION, BUT YOU ALL ARE GOING TO SPEND $230,000 ON A SUNRISE THEATRE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET SOMEONE ELSE TO MANAGE AND RUN IT FOR LIGHTING THAT'S BEEN HEMORRHAGING FOR YEARS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, MIMS, HOBBLEY BOBBLY, BID RIGGING, THE RFPS, FISHERMAN'S WHATEVER, LITTLE JIM BRIDGE, KINGS LANDING. IT JUST GOES ON AND ON AND ON. IT'S YOU ALL'S RESPONSIBILITY. YOU ALL ARE RESPONSIBLE AND YET YOU FAIL US AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN. THIS IS RIDICULOUS AND I WANT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING. I'VE BEEN BORN AND RAISED IN THIS TOWN. I'VE SEEN A NUMBER OF ATTORNEYS SIT IN THAT CHAIR OVER THERE. I REMEMBER ROB SCHARE. I'VE NEVER SEEN SUCH INCOMPETENCE IN MY LIFE AS WITH THIS ATTORNEY. THEY WERE GLAD TO GET RID OF HER AT THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

THIS IS APPALLING AND IT'S COSTING EVERY ONE OF US MONEY AND CAN YOU ALL DO SOMETHING RIGHT? WE'RE LECTURED CONSTANTLY BY SOME OF YOU ALL, YOU KNOW. WE DON'T HAVE THIS.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT. WE CAN'T AFFORD THIS. WE CAN'T PAY OUR POLICE OFFICERS A LIVABLE WAGE. A CAPTAIN AT THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT MAKES 160,000 A YEAR. WHAT DO OURS MAKE? A LITTLE MORE THAN MINIMUM WAGE? I'M EXAGGERATING. IT'S PATHETIC. WE CAN'T KEEP PEOPLE. YOU CAN'T GET BUSINESSES TO COME HERE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SUSTAINABLE. THIS HAS GOT TO STOP. IT'S GOT TO STOP. THE CHILDREN IN THIS TOWN HAVE NOTHING TO COME -- IT'S DEFIANT. YOU ALL NEED TO DO BETTER OR YOU NEED TO RESIGN

AND QUIT LECTURING US. >> CHARLES WILSON.

>> ALWAYS SO MUCH FUN TO COME HERE FOR THE ENTERTAINMENT VALUE. MY NAME IS CHARLES WILSON. MY ADDRESS ACTUALLY IS 1031 BOX 121 IN HUTCHINSON ISLAND, FLORIDA. WE'LL DISCUSS THAT IN ABOUT 15 DAYS AND YOU'LL HAVE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT, BUT I SAID TONIGHT I WAS GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 13, WHICH IS MR. CHESS' REVIEW, AND MY STATEMENT ON THAT IS GOOD LUCK AND GOODWILL, BUT IN THE MEANTIME ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED GOOD LUCK ON IS BECAUSE YOUR JOB IS REALLY DIFFICULT AND THAT'S BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO GIVE TRANSPARENCY AND FAITH BACK TO THE PUBLIC ON WHAT THEIR GOVERNMENT DOES AND CAN DO. MOST OF THE PUBLIC DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE COMMISSIONERS, I FEEL FOR YOU BECAUSE YOU TAKE THE HEAT WHEN YOU CAN'T DO CERTAIN THINGS. THE RULES DO NOT ALLOW YOU TO TALK TO ANY OF THE EMPLOYEES AND AS LONG AS THAT RULE STAYS IN

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PLACE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE INVOLVED IN THINGS LIKE THE LITTLE JIM BRIDGE DECISION, WHICH IS A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU'RE FACING. I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM YOU HAVE IN MY OPINION -- I WORK WITH A LOT OF CITIES -- IS THAT YOUR PROCESS IS FLAWED. YOUR PROCESS OF EVALUATION IS FLAWED AND YOU NEED TO CHANGE IT. IT IS FLAWED IN THREE WAYS. THE FIRST WAY IS ITS PRIORITIES. WHO DECIDES? WHO DECIDES THAT LITTLE JIM BRIDGE NEEDS TO BE AN ISSUE? NOT A SINGLE SOUL IN THIS WHOLE CITY WANTS TO DO A LITTLE JIM BRIDGE CHANGE, BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S BECOME A PRIORITY. THE SECOND THING IS WITH THE RFP OR RFQ WHO PICKS WHO IS ON THAT SCREENING COMMITTEE? WHO DECIDES WHO IS ON THAT SCREENING COMMITTEE BECAUSE OVER THE YEARS THE RESULTS OF THAT SCREENING COMMITTEE HAVE HAD VERY, VERY POOR RESULTS AND I THINK YOU PROBABLY NEED TO CHANGE THAT. THE MAKEUP OF THIS LAST ONE HAD ONE PERSON FROM FINANCE, ONE PERSON FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND ONE PERSON FROM PLANNING. NOW I HAVE THE WORK SHEETS. I HAVE THE ADD-UP SHEETS OF HOW THEY SCORED EVERYBODY AND THE PEOPLE THAT KNEW CERTAIN THINGS LIKE THE FINANCE COMMITTEE KNEW HOW TO READ A FINANCE STATEMENT. THE REST OF THEM DIDN'T. I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT UNDER THE THIRD IS THE CRITERIA. THE CRITERIA IS YOU'VE GOT THREE. ONE IS EXPERIENCE.

ONE IS SITE PLAN AND ONE IS FINANCE. EXPERIENCE IS RATED 20 POINTS. THE OTHER TWO ARE RATED 80 POINTS. SO AS LONG AS YOUR CRITERION MEANS NOTHING FOR THE PERSON WHO HAS BEEN HERE FOR TEN YEARS SUCCESSFULLY OPERATING AND FOUR TIMES THE WEIGHTED VALUE FROM TWO OTHER ON TWO WILL ALWAYS FAVOR SOMEONE FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE IS YOUR MAKEUP OF THE COMMITTEE. YOU NEED TO HAVE EXPERTS AND NONEMPLOYEES AND NOW YOU ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT THE CRITERION BECAUSE, FRANKLY, YOUR SITUATION IS FLAWED, BUT IT'S FIXABLE, BUT IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT, COMMISSIONERS. IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT DESPITE WHAT MR. REED BELIEVES.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT IS THE ENDING OF THE -- THIS IS IT.

[11. CONSENT AGENDA]

PLEASE. WE CAN MOVE ON. >> NEXT WE HAVE THE CONSENT

AGENDA. >> IS THERE ANY ITEM ANY COMMISSIONER WANTS TO PULL FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA?

>> . >> I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEM B.

>> I'M GOING TO PULL ITEM F JUST TO MAKE A CLARIFICATION

WHY. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> F? >> F FOR ME.

>> IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE FROM YOU, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? IF NOT -- IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REST OF THE CONSENT

AGENDA? >> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS EXCEPT ITEMS A, C, D, E, G AND H. .

>> SECOND. >> CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

>> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK? . >> YES.

[B. Approval of a Blanket PO in FY 2026 for Complete Resource Productions for Monthly Rental of Audio and Light Equipment for the Sunrise Theatre in an amount not to exceed $230,000.]

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES? . >> YES. .

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? . >> YES. .

>> MAYOR HUDSON? . >> YES.

>> ITEM B IS APPROVAL OF BLANKET PO IN FY 2026 FOR COMPLETE RESOURCE PRODUCTIONS FOR MONTHLY RENTAL OF AUDIO AND LIGHT EQUIPMENT FOR THE SUNRISE THEATRE IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO

EXCEED $230,000. >> I REQUESTED THAT ITEM BE PULLED BECAUSE I'VE HAD MULTIPLE INQUIRIES RELATIVE TO THIS SPECIFIC MATTER AND I KNOW THAT THE COMMISSION HAS RECEIVED INFORMATION ABOUT THIS GOING BACK MONTHS NOW, BUT I THINK IT'S WARRANTED THAT THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON HERE. IT'S BEEN FRAMED TO ME AS THE GREAT TRAIN ROBBERY. SOMEBODY BACKED UP A TRUCK TO THE SUNRISE THEATRE, LOADED IT UP WITH EQUIPMENT, TOOK OFF, ET CETERA. I'D LIKE TO HAVE A BRIEF HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE ON THIS AND THIS OBVIOUSLY IS THE SOLUTION MOVING FORWARD, A BRIEF EXPLANATION AS TO WHAT THAT

SOLUTION IS. >> ALL RIGHT. MR. CHESS, DO YOU

HAVE ANY LEAD-IN? >> YES. MARISA IS GOING TO GIVE US A LITTLE BACKGROUND AND GOING FORWARD WE'LL DISCUSS THE EQUIPMENT BEING LEASED AND I'LL COMMENT A LITTLE ABOUT US NEGOTIATING HOW IT WAS SELECTED AND HOW THIS PARTICULAR COST, WE DON'T EXPECT TO PAY THAT OVER THE 12-MONTH PERIOD.

>> THANK YOU. STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

>> MY NAME'S MARISA QUIJANO, BE INTERIM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT THE SUNRISE THEATRE. THE SITUATION WITH THE PREVIOUS EMPLOYEE WAS BEFORE MY TIME. I STARTED IN NOVEMBER 2021, BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE SITUATION, IN 2020 WE WERE STILL

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USING THE EQUIPMENT THAT WAS PURCHASED UPON THE RESTORATION OF THE SUNRISE THEATRE IN 2007 AND I BELIEVE THEY DID UPGRADE THE EQUIPMENT I WANT TO SAY IN 2019, BUT IT STILL WASN'T ENOUGH TO KIND OF ALIGN WITH TODAY'S STANDARDS OF THE CONCERT INDUSTRY. SO THE PERSON THAT WAS CONTRACTED TO BE THE TECHNICAL DIRECTOR, THEY WERE NOT A CITY EMPLOYEE. THEY WERE A CONTRACTED EMPLOYEE PAID, I BELIEVE, WEEKLY. HE TOOK IT UPON HIMSELF TO PUT SOME OF HIS OWN EQUIPMENT INTO THE SUNRISE THEATRE IN ORDER FOR US TO PRESENT EVENTS AT A HIGHER QUALITY. SOMETIME DURING THE TRANSITION BETWEEN MS. SHARON ENGLE WHO RETIRED LAST YEAR AND ME IN THAT TIME, THEN THERE WAS A COUPLE MISCOMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN OUR STAFF AND WHAT WE WERE AND WEREN'T ALLOWED TO DO AS FAR AS TALKING TO THIS OLD EX-CONTRACTOR WHO USED TO WORK AT THE THEATRE, HE REACHED OUT TO THE TECHNICAL DIRECTOR AT THE TIME JANUARY 2025 AND DID PICK UP A MAJORITY OF HIS EQUIPMENT, AS IT WAS HIS. AGAIN, SINCE THIS WAS DURING THE TIME OF MY TRANSITION, UNFORTUNATELY, I DID NOT KNOW THE FULL SCOPE OF THE LEGAL SITUATION. I BELIEVE AT THIS POINT THERE REALLY ISN'T MUCH LEFT OF THE LEGAL SITUATION. NOTHING REALLY CAME TO POLLUTION ABOUT THAT AS FAR AS FROM THAT EX-CONTRACTOR. E NEVER REALLY PURSUED IT. HOWEVER, WE WERE STILL LEFT WITH INOPERABLE EQUIPMENT. BECAUSE THIS HAPPENED IN DECEMBER 2024 AND THEN JANUARY 2025, THE MIDDLE OF OUR SEASON, I WAS ADVISED AT THE TIME TO RENT EQUIPMENT FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES IN ORDER TO CONTINUE ON WITH THE SHOWS THAT WE HAD BOOKED. WE NEED CERTAIN EQUIPMENT IN ORDER TO FULFILL THE CONTRACTS THAT WE HAVE FOR EACH EVENT. IF WE DON'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT, WE DON'T FULFILL THE CONTRACT, WE HAVE TO FORFEIT THE EVENT. WE STILL HAVE TO PAY THE GUARANTEE OF THE EVENT AND ANY TICKETS THAT WERE SOLD IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO MEET OUR OBLIGATION OF HAVING QUALITY SOUND AND LIGHT EQUIPMENT. THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH ANY WORKS ARE STILL ONGOING. BECAUSE IT'S A NEW FISCAL YEAR, I HAD TO OPEN A NEW PO FOR THE SOUND AND LIGHT EQUIPMENT STILL CURRENTLY IN THE THEATRE TO CONTINUE ON WITH THE EVENTS THAT WE HAVE. AS MR. CHESS SAID, WE'RE NOT REALLY ANTICIPATING IT BEING THIS MUCH MONEY FOR THE WHOLE YEAR . WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SHOULD THIS BE FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR, WHICH

WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING. >> QUESTIONS?

>> WE HAD SUGGESTED THAT WHAT YOU NEED TO PUT IN THIS EQUIPMENT. THIS WASN'T JUST A SHORT-TERM NEED. WE NEEDED

SOMETHING PERMANENTLY. >> YES.

>> THAT A LEASE PURCHASE OPTION OR STRAIGHT PURCHASE OF THIS EQUIPMENT SHOULD BE SOMETHING CONSIDERED. IS THAT STILL ON THE TABLE OR ARE WE JUST LOOKING RIGHT NOW AT BASICALLY MONTHLY RENTAL EQUIPMENT TO BAND-AID US THROUGH THE SEASON?

>> I DID REACH BACK OUT TO GET A NEW QUOTE FOR LEASE TO OWN SINCE IT NOW HAS BEEN IN THE BUILDING FOR TEN MONTHS NOW AND I'M STILL WAITING ON THE QUOTE FOR THE SPECIFIC EQUIPMENT THAT'S IN THE BUILDING ALREADY. I'D BE HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR QUOTES TO PURCHASE FROM A DIFFERENT COMPANY. HOWEVER, SHOULD THINGS GO -- SHOULD WE CONTINUE ON WITH NEGOTIATIONS, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S SOMETHING --

>> THE RISK OF GETTING -- PURCHASING THE EQUIPMENT, TECHNOLOGY CHANGES SO FAST OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, OVER A PERIOD OF 12 TO 18 MONTHS. SO WE REALLY ARE LOOKING TOWARD OUR CURRENT VENDOR THAT WE SELECTED FOR THE PROPOSAL AND SEE ONCE WE GO THROUGH NEGOTIATIONS WITH THEM WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE KIND OF EQUIPMENT THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO BRING INTO THE THEATRE. I FEEL THAT WILL BE MORE BENEFICIAL TO US INSTEAD OF THE RISK OF BUYING THIS EQUIPMENT PERMANENTLY AND IN 18 MONTHS IT'S OUTDATED. I BELIEVE WITH THE OTHER RENTER COMING IN ABLE TO BRING CERTAIN CAPITAL EQUIPMENT AND BE ABLE TO CHANGE IT OUT IN A MORE OPERABLE WAY, BE MORE TO OUR BENEFIT. SO THAT'S THE GOAL IS ONCE WE BRING ON THE NEW VENDOR, WE GET THE CONTRACT SOLIDIFIED AND TALK ABOUT THE CAPITAL NEEDS THAT WE HAVE AND NEED THAT THEY HAVE BETTER ECONOMIES OF SCALE IN THEIR MARKET AND CAN BRING THE EQUIPMENT AT A LOWER PRICE, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THEY'RE ABLE TO EXCHANGE THE EQUIPMENT AS NECESSARY AS OPPOSED TO US GETTING LOCKED IN WITH THE PURCHASE AND THEN WE HAVE TO REPURCHASE IT ALL OVER AGAIN. SO THAT'S THE THOUGHT PROCESS WITH THAT.

>> I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. THAT MAKES SENSE.

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>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? >> A COUPLE QUESTIONS HERE. I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE I GOT THIS RIGHT. WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SEASON. THE EQUIPMENT THAT IS THERE NOW IS EQUIPMENT FROM WHICH COMPANY AND IS THIS THE COMPANY OF THE EX-EMPLOYEE THAT

-- NO. >> NO.

>> THIS IS A BRAND-NEW COMPANY THAT WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH

CURRENTLY. >> YES. IT'S A MONTH-TO-MONTH COMPLETE WITH COMPLETE PRODUCTION RESOURCES. IT'S A COMPANY WE'VE USED BEFORE PER EVENT RENTALS.

>> OKAY. ALSO WHAT I DIFFERENT HEAR HERE IS THAT THAT PROCESS OF GETTING THIS COMPANY, MR. CHESS, WAS AN RFP PUT OUT FOR THAT, TO ACQUIRE -- OBVIOUSLY WE HAD AN EMERGENCY. YOU HAD TO GO TO SOMEBODY WHO COULD GET US THERE, BUT WAS THERE AN RFP PROCESS FOR THAT THAT WE GOT OR DID WE PIGGYBACK ON SOMETHING TO

GET THIS COMPANY IN HERE -- >> NO. IT'S STILL OPERATING ON AN EMERGENCY PURCHASE WITH THIS EQUIPMENT.

>> OKAY. SO THIS MONEY THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS ALMOST AS A CONTINGENCY. YOU SAID AT ONE POINT IT'S NOT TO BE SPENT TOTALLY HERE. SO WHAT DO WE REALLY NEED TO OPERATE TO GET THAT VERSUS THE NUMBER OF SHOWS THAT WE HAVE COMING UP? I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEATRE SEASON ENDS, BUT I'M ASSUMING IT'S GOING TO END SOME POINT AND THEN WE HAVE A LULL.

>> THE GOAL FOR US IS TO GET A VENDOR ON BOARD TO ELIMINATE THIS COST COMPLETELY. SO WE'LL BE SPENDING ABOUT ROUGHLY $19,000 A MONTH -- REALLY BE MORE LIKE 17,000 A MONTH. ONCE WE BRING THE VENDOR ON BOARD WE CAN REVISIT THIS EQUIPMENT ISSUE AND GET AWAY FROM THE EMERGENCY PURCHASE AND HAVE THE VENDOR COME FORWARD WITH CAPITAL RECOMMENDATIONS FOR US. BY US SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT INTENDING TO SPEND THE FULL 230,000, THAT'S WITH THE INTENTION THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS VENDOR

THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS. >> WHEN YOU SAY GET THIS VENDOR

-- >> WE'RE GOING TO SOLIDIFY THE AGREEMENT WITH THE VENDOR, GET THE CONTRACT SIGNED.

>> OPERATE. . >> I WANT TO BE REAL CLEAR.

THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION OUT HERE, RIGHT? SO THIS COMMISSION APPROVED THAT WE PUT OUT AN RFP PROCESS. WE HAD A SUCCESSFUL BID COME BACK TO US. WE APPROVED THAT NEW MANAGEMENT COMPANY TO COME IN AND RUN THE SUNRISE THEATRE. WHAT I'M HEARING NOW IS THAT NEW MANAGEMENT COMPANY, THAT CONTRACT, HAS NOT BEEN SOLIDIFIED AS A RESULT OF WHAT'S GOING ON HERE WITH THIS?

>> NO, NO. COMPLETELY SEPARATE. STILL NEGOTIATION PROCESS.

>> WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT THAT WOULD BE DONE, ANY IDEA?

>> IDEALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT DONE BY JANUARY 1. WE'LL BE REALLY MOVING FAST TO DO THAT. I KNOW THERE ARE SOME LICENSINGS AND PERMITSTHEY'LL HAVE TO V LIKE A LIQUOR LICENSE AND SO FORTH AND SO ON. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'LL WORK WITH THEM ON THAT. THERE'S A FEW PERMITS AND LICENSING THEY'LL HAVE TO HAVE FINALIZED, BUT, OF COURSE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PURSUE THAT TILL THEY ACTUALLY GET THE CONTRACT SIGNED. WE'RE KIND OF DISCUSSING THAT AS WELL, THE CITY ATTORNEY AND I, ALONG WITH OTHER STAFF MEMBERS WHEN WE MEET WITH THEM.

>> WHAT'S IMPORTANT AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS WE'VE HIRED A MANAGEMENT COMPANY TO RUN THIS AND THAT MANAGEMENT COMPANY IS GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHATEVER EQUIPMENT GOES IN THERE FOR LIGHTING, WHATEVER. RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANAGEMENT COMPANY ON AND WE HAVE SHOWS THAT WE HAVE BOOKED AND, I GUESS, WE'VE GOT A FULL SCHEDULE COMING UP HERE WITH THE HOLIDAYS, ET CETERA THAT ARE COMING HERE AND WE NEED THIS EQUIPMENT.

>> WE WILL BE PAYING FOR THOSE CAPITAL NEEDS, BUT THE AGENDA WILL BE IDENTIFYING THOSE ASSETS FOR US EQUIPMENT FOR US? WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OPERATING CAPITAL SIDE OF THAT. I WANT TO BE CLEAR, BUT THE KEY FOR US IS JUST LIKE THE WHOLE -- THEY HAVE THESE VENUES ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND WILL GET THE EQUIPMENT AT

BETTER COSTS. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S UNDERSTOOD THAT WE HAVE A FULL TRANSPARENT PROCESS WHOEVER THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY IS THAT WHEN THEY GO OUT, WE HAVE THIS OUT IN THE PUBLIC, THAT PUBLIC COMPANIES CAN BID ON THIS. WE HAVE AN EVALUATION OF THAT AND NOW THIS EQUIPMENT THAT WILL BE UTILIZED AND PUT ON PRODUCTIONS WILL BE ONE THING. OKAY. I'VE ALSO ASKED FOR AND I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY GET TO THIS AND I'M GOING TO HAVE A DAY MEETING DISCUSSION ON THIS IS COSTS VERSUS THE ACTUAL REVENUES COMING IN, RIGHT? SO THERE'S CERTAIN COSTS THAT GO INTO THE PRODUCTION OF SHOW. I GET THAT.

WE'RE THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY OBVIOUSLY, RIGHT? SO THE REVENUES OF TICKETS SOLD, CONCESSIONS, ET CETERA. THOSE ARE REVENUE SIDE AND I NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S COMING OUT IN EXPENSES AND I WANT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE PUBLIC TO MAKE SURE ON A MONTHLY BASIS WE WHERE ARE WE ARE AND THEY AND WE HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING MONTHLY WHAT'S COMING IN FROM

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THESE SHOWS VERSUS WHAT WE HAVE TO SPEND TO PUT ON THE SHOW, RIGHT? I NEED HELP UNDERSTANDING THAT AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT DAY MEETING DISCUSSION COMING UP HERE PRETTY SOON, ESPECIALLY AS WE GET READY FOR MAYBE ON BOARDING A NEW MANAGEMENT COMPANY. I'D REALLY LIKE TO GET MY HEAD AROUND THAT

BEFORE JANUARY. >> CERTAINLY. WE CAN DO THAT.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? COMMISSIONERGAINES?

>> OKAY. GUYS. MAYBE I'M JUST TIRED BECAUSE IT'S A MONDAY, BUT I'M READING ONE THING AND I'M HEARING SOMETHING ELSE.

I'M READING THAT YOU WANT MY APPROVAL FOR A BLANKET PO FOR $230,000, BUT NOW I'M HEARING THAT WE'RE IN NEGOTIATIONS.

WE'RE IN EMERGENCY STATUS. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THIS MUCH.

IT'S HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE BY JANUARY 1, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN.

SO MY QUESTION IS WHY IS THIS ON MY AGENDA TONIGHT IF I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF ANSWERS TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY? I'M NOT APPROVING A BLANKET PO TO COME BACK TO BITE ME BECAUSE WE APPROVED IT TONIGHT AND WE SPENT $230 AND WE'RE SAYING WE'RE NOT TO, BUT IT HAPPENED. SO MY QUESTION IS WHY IS THIS ON HERE TONIGHT? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT DO WE NEED TO APPROVE SOMETHING A MONTHLY SOMETHING TO GET THESE SHOWS? YOU WON'T LOSE NO CONTRACTS. I GET THAT PART. I DO BREACHES OF CONTRACT ALL THE TIME. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT. I DON'T WANT YOU TO BREACH ANYTHING BECAUSE THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT ATMOSPHERE AND BODY, BUT WHY WOULD I APPROVE A BLANKET PO FOR 2026 FOR THIS ALL OF MONEY IF ALL I NEED IS SOME MONTHLY PAYMENTS UNTIL WE GET TO WHERE WE GET AND I CAN SHOW THE PUBLIC SOME REAL NUMBERS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THIS NUMBER I'M HEARING IS NOT A REAL NUMBER UNTIL YOU COME BACK AND SAY OH, BY THE WAY, WE THOUGHT WE WEREN'T GOING TO SPEND THIS, BUT YEAH, WE SPENT $230,000. SO WHY IS THIS ON HERE TONIGHT? THAT'S MY QUESTION OR CAN THIS BE SOMETHING THAT WE MOVE AND COME BACK WHEN WE HAVE THE RIGHT NUMBERS, BUT I DON'T WANT TO HURT YOU WITH BREACHES OF CONTRACT, BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO APPROVE A BLANKET $230,000

PO. >> I CAN ADDRESSES THAT, COMMISSIONER GAINES. THIS IS A MONTH-TO-MONTH AGREEMENT. THE 230,000 IS FOR A 12-MONTH PERIOD. SO WE THEY'D TO GET THIS APPROVED SO THE SHOW GOES ON THAT WE HAVE THE EQUIPMENT TO RUN THE SHOWS ON A MONTHLY BASIS. IF AND WHEN WE DO GET THE NEW MANAGEMENT COMPANY ON BOARD, THIS CONTRACT IS CEASED WITHIN 30 DAYS. IT WILL END INSTANTLY. IT'S LIKE THIS. WE HAVE THE OPTION TO END IT INSTANTLY BASED ON OUR NEGOTIATION. SO WE NEED TO APPROVE THIS IN ORDER TO GET THE EQUIPMENT AND MAINTAIN THE EQUIPMENT, BUT WE'RE NOT SPENDING 230,000 AT ONE TIME.

WE'RE SPENDING IT ON A MONTHLY BASIS AND THE DEAL FOR US IS THAT ONCE WE GET THIS MANAGEMENT COMPANY ON BOARD, WE'LL REVISIT THIS EQUIPMENT AND THEN AT THAT POINT IDEALLY WITHIN 30 DAYS OR SO WE CAN END THIS COMPLETELY. IT'S ROUGHLY 19,000 A MONTH OVER A 12 MONTH PERIOD EQUATES TO ALMOST 230.

>> I ADDED IT UP. I KNOW HOW YOU GOT TO THE 230. MY QUESTION IS IF THAT'S THE CASE, WHY CAN'T I APPROVE TWO MONTHS OR THREE MONTHS AND THEN COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT WHERE WE ARE AT THIS TIME? YOU SAID JANUARY 1ST. IT'S NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY. WHY CAN'T I APPROVE THREE MONTHS AND THEN WAIT TILL YOU COME BACK TO SAY OKAY, THIS IS WHERE WE ARE. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AT THIS TIME INSTEAD OF ME GIVING A BLANKET APPROVAL FOR 12 MONTHS WHICH I'M SAYING I KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET TO,

BUT STRANGE THINGS HAPPEN. >> WE CAN DO THAT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY MAYBE SIX MONTHS. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM DOING SIX MONTHS BECAUSE THERE'S NO GUARANTEE IN THREE MONTHS THAT WE'LL HAVE THIS VENDOR IN PLACE AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO END THIS CONTRACT. THEN WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK HERE AGAIN. IF I WAS TO RECOMMEND US REDUCING IT FROM A 12-MONTH PERIOD TO A SIX-MONTH PERIOD, WITHIN SIX MONTHS, I'M COMFORTABLE IN FEELING THAT WE'LL HAVE THE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT IN PLACE, THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY WILL BE IN PLACE AND WE CAN MAKE THE TRANSITION TO NEW EQUIPMENT. I'M FINE WITH THAT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IT WILL BE DONE IN THREE MONTHS. I SEE JANUARY.

JUST TO HAVE THE INK SIGNED ON THE AGREEMENT. THAT'S NOT TO SAY WE'LL HAVE THE EQUIPMENT SITUATION FIGURED OUT.

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>> IN JANUARY CAN SOMEBODY COME BACK TO ME AND TELL ME WHAT'S GOING ON BEFORE I GET TO SIX MONTHS?

>> YEAH. >> SO MADAME ATTORNEY, HOW WOULD I CHANGE THIS FROM WHAT'S ON THIS PAPER, FROM A BLANKET PO TO A SIX-MONTH -- WHAT WOULD YOU TITLE IT ?

>> MADAME MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, THIS AMOUNT IS FOR 12 MONTHS, SO IT JUST NEEDS TO BE DIVIDED IN HALF AND A MOTION TO APPROVE A BLANKET ORDER FOR 6 MONTHS, UP TO THAT AMOUNT. AND IF YOUR DIRECTION IS FOR IT TO COME BACK WITHIN THREE MONTHS, FOR AN UPDATE, JUST INCLUDE THAT IN

YOUR MOTION. >> YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE ME DO

SOME MATH. >> I CAN DO IT FOR YOU IF YOU

WOULD LIKE. >> I HOPE I'M NOT LOOKING AT THIS TONIGHT. FIGURE THIS OUT REAL QUICK.

>> IT'S 115. >> 115,000.

>> FOR 6 MONTHS. >> 115.

>> I CAN STOMACH A SIX-MONTH BUT THE THREE MONTH PERIOD FOR $115,000, TO SEE WHERE WE ARE, INSTEAD OF A BLANKET PO FOR 230.

SO LISTEN TO ANY COMMENTS ON THAT. IF NOT, THEN DISAGREEMENTS OR COMMENTS ON THAT, IF NOT, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION.

>> I'D JUST LIKE TO BE SURE THAT THERE IS NO PENALTY AT THE END OF SIX MONTHS OR INCREAING COSTS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THE SIX MONTH TERM VERSUS A 12 MONTH TERM AND I'M ASSUMING THIS HAS SOME KIND OF BAILOUT LIKE A 90 DAY NOTICE OF TERMINATION.

>> IT'S IRRELEVANT TO ME BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE A TERMINATION, I'M GOOD EITHER WAY BUT IF YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH SIX I'M GOOD . THERE IS NO FINANCIAL PENALTY OR DOWNSTROKE,

I'M GOOD. >> I WOULD JUST ECHO THAT, TOO.

THAT'S THE WHOLE LEGAL PART OF THAT, MAKING SURE THAT IF WE FIND OURSELVES IN A SITUATION WHERE STUFF HAPPENS AND WE HAVE TO GO ANOTHER SIX MONTHS, I DON'T WANT TO BE PENALIZED FOR THAT POINT I'D LOVE TO HAVE THAT LOAD OF OPTIONS AND I FEEL COMFORTABLE HEARING THAT WE CAN GO TO SIX AND IF WE HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER SIX OR ANOTHER THREE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE,

WE ARE NOT GETTING PENALIZED. >> FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO ADD, IT COMES BACK IN FRONT OF US IN THE THREE MONTHS AND WE WOULD KNOW WHERE WE ARE AT THAT POINT.

>> OKAY. >> ONE FOLLOW-UP COMMENT IS MISSION OR JOHNSON AT THE LAST ADVISORY BOARD MEETING ON WHICH I SIT THE STAFF HAD A GREAT TOOL WHICH WAS AN ANALYSIS PER SHOW OF REVENUE, COST, I BELIEVE IT WAS EVEN BROKEN DOWN INTO --

>> PER SHOW EXPENSES VERSUS REVENUE.

>> COUNTED IT DOWN TO CONCESSIONS AND THINGS. IT WAS QUITE AN IMPRESSIVE REPORT SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WOULD BE A BASIS THAT YOU WOULD

>> IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF I COULD MAYBE GET A MEETING. WE'LL TALK WITH MR. CHESSMEN AND HAVE YOU GUYS MEET.

>> ONE COMPONENT I'LL ADD TO IT IS NUMBER OF ATTENDEES. IT WAS REALLY QUITE A VALUABLE PIECE OF INFORMATION.

>> SO MADAME MAYOR, I WILL TRY TO MAKE THIS MOTION. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE A SIX-MONTH PERIOD OF 115,000 FOR THIS MONTHLY RENTAL AUDIO AND LIGHT EQUIPMENT AND THAT IN THREE MONTHS THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY COMES BACK TO REPORT TO US WHERE THEY ARE IN THE NEGOTIATIONS OF THE CONTRACT.

>> COME BACK, STAFF -- NOT THE MANAGEMENT, STRIKE THAT. WHICH YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME. STAFF REPORTS TO US WHERE

THEY ARE IN THREE MONTHS. >> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> CALL THEPLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK.

[F. Approval of travel for Commissioner Gaines to attend the Florida League of Cities 2025 Legislative Conference in Orlando, Florida from December 3, 2025 to December 5, 2025, in the amount of $1,014.54]

>> YES. >>

>> YES MA'AM. >> ITEM F IS THE APPROVAL OF TRAVEL FOR THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES 2025 LEGISLATIVE CONFERENCE IN ORLANDO FROM DECEMBER 3RD TO THE FIFTH IN THE

AMOUNT OF 100 -- $1014.54. >> I PULLED THIS BECAUSE I JUST WANTED THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT A TRIP FOR US TO JUST GO UP AND HOBNOB WITH OTHER PEOPLE IN THE LEAGUE OF CITIES. THIS IS THE MEETING WHERE ALL OF US SIT ON DIFFERENT POLICY COMMITTEES AND THESE ARE WHERE WE ARE GOING TO HAMMER OUT WHAT AREAS OF CONCERN THAT WE HAVE THAT WE ARE GOING TO PRESENT TO TALLAHASSEE WHEN WE GO TO FIGHT TALLAHASSEE AND THIS YEAR ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS IS THIS PROPERTY TAX THING SO I

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JUST WANTED THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT YOU SEE ALL OF US GOING, WE'RE GOING TO FIGHT FOR THE RESIDENTS OF FORT PIERCE. THIS IS NOT WINE AND DINE. THIS IS NOT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN COME AND YOU GO TO THE MEETINGS IT'S DISCUSSIONS, I SIT ON THE UTILITIES COMMITTEE AND THERE ARE SOME GREAT DISCUSSIONS IN THAT ROOM, UTILITIES COMMITTEE, SO I JUST WANTED TO PULL IT TO LET US KNOW WHY THEY SEE THESE NUMBERS BUT WE ARE ACTUALLY UP THERE FIGHTING FOR THE RESIDENTS OF FT. PIERCE, SO IT'S WHY I

WANTED TO PUT. >> IT IS THE LEGISLATIVE CONFERENCE SO WE GET A REAL FEEL AND GET A REAL EDUCATION ON WHAT TO EXPECT FROM THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

>> COMMISSONER GAINES, NOT THE POOL PARTY THAT DAY?

>> THE ONLY THING I'M GOING TO SAY IS I GET IT . I'M ONE OF THE SENIOR STATESMEN HERE, AGE JOSH WEISBERG OF THESE MEETINGS WE GO TO AT THE END OF THE DAY IS DRAINING. IT JUST TAKES EVERYTHING OUT OF YOUR FOCUS AND THE POSITION OF THE CITY OF FT.

PIERCE AND ADVOCATE FOR OUR CITIZENS, AND IT IS VERY TAXING.

TEXAN FROM A PHYSICAL STANDPOINT, A MENTAL STANDPOINT, IT'S A LOT OF WORK . WORTH EVERY MINUTE OF IT, THE.

>> REAL QUICK AND JUST TO FOLLOW-UP ON COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, JUST IMAGINE THE PUBLIC, JUST IMAGINE EVERY CITY IN ONE ROOM, TRYING TO FIGHT FOR WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THEM BUT THEN TRYING TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT FOR EVERY CITY. SO THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON. SO WE ARE FIGHTING FOR US AND YOU KNOW --

>> AND FOR YOU. >> WHEN I SAY ARE SIGNING US.

ALL OF US IN THIS ROOM AND THE CITY. I JUST WANT TO PULL THAT, TOO BECAUSE IT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND I DON'T WANT ANY NEGATIVE READING OF THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING, SO WITH THAT, MADAME MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT 11 HERE

POINT >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

[A. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 25-029 Deleting Chapter 103, Article VII Coastal Construction Code. SECOND READING]

>> HEARINGS. SO WE HAVE -- THESE ARE ALL LEGISLATIVE HEARINGS TONIGHT. I DID HAVE A CORRECTION TO THE AGENDA SO WE HAVE ORDINANCE 25-029, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER 1 OF THREE, BUILDING AND BUILDING REGULATIONS, ARTICLE SEVEN, COASTAL CONSTRUCTION CODE, BY DELETING AND RESERVING SECTIONS 103-263 THROUGH 103-268, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS THE

SECOND READING. >> IT'S THE SECOND READING.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEE NO MOVEMENT, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AND BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION.

[B. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 25-030 Amending Chapter 103, Article II Building Code, and Amending Chapter 109, Article I Floodplain Management. SECOND READING]

>> MOVE APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>> 25-030, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER 103, BUILDING AND BUILDING REGULATIONS ARTICLE TWO, BUILDING CODE, DIVISION ONE, GENERALLY SECTION 103-24 BY DELETING FLORIDA BUILDING CODE TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS FOR ADDITIONS AMENDING CHAPTER 109, FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT ARTICLE ONE AND GENERAL SECTION 109-2 BY MODIFYING CERTAIN DEFINITIONS, AMENDING ARTICLE THREE, FLOOD RESISTANT DEVELOPMENT, SECTION 109-49 BY PROVIDING FOR TECHNICAL AMENDMENT TO THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE FOR ADDITIONS , ORDINANCE OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT WITH AND PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THIS IS THE SECOND READING. >> THIS IS THE SECOND READING.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE,

PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> SEE NO MOVEMENT, I'LL BRING

IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. >> MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

[C. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 25-031 - Review of an application to approve a planned development in respect of the Final Site Plan for Pod 1 and the Planned Development Zoning Agreement for the Symphony Lakes Planned Development (PD) generally located at or near the northeast corner of Selvitz Road and Devine Road and west of Christensen Road, containing approximately 88.5 acres of land, more or less, plus additional right-of-way; providing for a severability clause; providing for repeal of ordinances or parts thereof in conflict; and providing for an effective date. - SECOND READING.]

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND. CALL THE

ROLL PLEASE. >>

>> WE HAVE ORDINANCE 25-031, AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE, FLORIDA, APPROVING A PLAN AT ALL AND POD ONE FINAL SITE PLAN AND PLAN DEVELOPMENT ZONING AGREEMENT FOR THE SYMPHONY LAKES LAND OF ELEMENT PD GENERALLY LOCATED AT OR NEAR THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SELVAGE ROAD AND DEVINE ROAD IN WEST CHRISTIANSEN ROAD CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 88.5 ACRES OF LAND, MORE OR LESS PLUS ADDITIONAL RIGHT-OF-WAY, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS THEREOF CONFLICT AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS THE SECOND READING.

>> IT'S THE SECOND READING AND THIS IS A LEGISLATIVE HEARING.

THIS IS THE SECOND READING. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE

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ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEE NO MOVEMENT, I'LL COME BACK TO

THE COMMISSION FOR A MOTION. >> MAY I MOVE APPROVAL?

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND. CALL THE

[D. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 25-032 - Review and approval of a Voluntary Annexation by owner, Tim Morley of MRM Ventures LLC, to extend the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include one (1) parcel at or near the Northeast Corner of South 25th Street and Cortez Boulevard. The proposed City Future Land Use designation is Residential Low Density (RL) and Zoning designation of Single-Family Intermediate Density (R-2). Parcel ID: 2421-233-0002-000-9. FIRST READING]

ROLL PLEASE. >>

>> >> WE HAVE ORDINANCE 25-032 , AN ORDINANCE EXTENDING THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS OF THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE, FLORIDA, TO INCLUDE ONE PARCEL AT OR NEAR THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTH 25TH STREET AND CORTEZ BOULEVARD AND SHOWING ON EXHIBIT A, DIRECTING ST. LUCIE COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER TO ASSESS SAID PROPERTY AND PLACE IT ON THE CITY TAX ROLES AS OF JANUARY 1, 2026, DIRECTING THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY TAX COLLECTOR TO COLLECT TAXES ON THE HEREIN DESCRIBED PROPERTY ZONING DESIGNATION OF SINGLE-FAMILY, INTERMEDIATE DENSITY R 2 ESTABLISHED IN THE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF RESIDENTIAL LOW-DENSITY RL, DIRECTING FILING OF THE ORDINANCE WITH THE CITY WITH THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER OF SAINT LUCIE COUNTY, DIRECTING REVISION OF THE CHARTER BOUNDARY ARTICLE TO BE FILED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF DEMOCRATIC RESEARCH PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, REVEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT WITH AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS THE FIRST READING.

>> GOOD EVENING STAFF. >> GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING MADAME MAYOR. COMMISSIONERS. BEFORE YOU WE HAVE PROJECT NUMBER PTZ LETTER A AND N 2025-00001 FOR MRN VENTURES ANNEXATION LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF CORTEZ BOULEVARD AND SOUTH 25TH STREET, PARCEL I.D. 2420 1-2 33-PURPLE 02-PURPLE 0-9. THE APPLICANT AND OWNER IS TIM MORLEY OF MRN VENTURES LLC . THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING ANNEXATION OF ONE PARCEL INTO THE CITY. IT CURRENTLY HAS A FEATURED LAND-USE DESIGNATION OF RESIDENTIAL URBAN AND A ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF RS4 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY FOUR UNITS DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. TO ENSURE CONSISTENCY WITH POLICY 1.11.5 OF THE CITY'S COMP PLAN, THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF THE PARCEL IS RL RESIDENTIAL LOW-DENSITY WITH THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION ARE TWO SINGLE-FAMILY. THE CURRENT TAXABLE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY $839,000. SHOULD THE APPLICATION FOR ANNEXATION BE APPROVED, THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE VACANT LAND OCCURS, THE CITY COULD CREATE NEW SOURCE OF AD VALOREM TAX REVENUE. THE SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 8.25 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS AND AS YOU CAN SEE IT IS LOCATED WITHIN A LARGE ENCLAVE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY. AGAIN, THE EXISTING ZONING AND FUTURE LAND USE, EXISTING ZONING IS RS 4 AND THE FUTURE LAND USE

IS RESIDENTIAL OPEN. >> OKAY.

>> BEFORE YOU WAS A FUTURE LAND USE COMPARISON SHOWING A POTENTIAL MAXIMUM BUILDOUT. CURRENTLY UNDER THE COUNTY THERE WOULD BE ALLOWED 41 UNITS BUT THE ANNEXATION INTO THE CITY, IT WOULD ALLOW FOR AN INCREASE OF APPROXIMATELY 12 UNITS. OKAY.

PURSUANT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICY, 1.11.5, PROPERTIES ANNEXED SHALL RECEIVE THE LAND-USE DESIGNATION COMPATIBLE WITH THE COUNTY LAND USE DESIGNATION UNLESS OTHERWISE APPROVED BY THE CITY COMMISSION. STAFF HAS CONFIRMED THAT THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN UNINCORPORATED ST. LUCIE COUNTY AND IS CONTIGUOUS TO THE CITY, FT. PIERCE CITY MINNESOTA BOUNDARY, AND WITHIN THE FELA SERVICE AREA. ALL AFFECTED DEPARTMENTS HAVE REVIEWED THE PROPOSED ANNEXATION WITH REGARDS TO CONSISTENCY WITH ESTABLISHED ORDINANCES AND REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY CODE AND COMP PLAN. AT THE AUGUST 11TH 2025 MEETING, THE PLANNING BOARD VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVE THE ANNEXATION. STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT CITY COMMISSION APPROVED PROPOSED ANNEXATION BECAUSE IT IS CONSISTENT WITH SECTION 120 5-1 36 OF THE CITY CODE AND THE COMP PLAN AND DOES NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, CONVENIENCE AND GENERAL

WELFARE. THANK YOU. >> MR. GILMORE, WOULD YOU GO BACK TO THE COUNTY -- YOU SAID THE COUNTY ALLOWS HOW MANY

UNITS? >> IT WOULD BE ALLOWED UP TO 41 POINT THE COUNTY'S LOWEST RESIDENTIAL DENSITY WOULD ALLOW UP TO FIVE WHEREAS OUR THRESHOLD IS UP TO 6.5.

>> SO MAXIMUM UNITS PER -- >> THEY'RE COMPARABLE.

RESIDENTIAL URBAN IS THE COUNTY'S LOWEST RESIDENTIAL FUTURE LAND USE, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS THE CITY'S.

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HOURS JUST HAPPENS TO BE 1.5 MORE.

>> WE TRIED, WHEN WE ANNEXED, WE TRY TO HAVE THE ZONING AS CLOSE

AS POSSIBLE TO WHAT -- >> THE FUTURE LAND USE, RIGHT.

ALSO THE CLOSEST. >> AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS PLAN TO DO WITH THIS?

>> I'M NOT SURE. ONLY THING I KNOW IS THEY MENTIONED RESIDENTIAL. JUST RESIDENTIAL. THEY HAVEN'T SAID WHAT KIND.

>> IT'S AT THE CORNER OF CORTEZ AND 25TH.

>> THAT IS SOUTH OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION AND TO THE EAST OF

>> RIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

>> NOT AT THIS TIME, MADAME MAYOR, BECAUSE YOU JUST SAID THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO BUT 41 TO 53, THAT'S A BIG NUMBER TO ME, ESPECIALLY IN THAT AREA, ESPECIALLY WITH THE TRAFFIC THAT'S ALREADY THERE. SO THEY'RE LISTENING. SO BE PREPARED TO DISCUSS THAT WHEN THEY COME BACK, IF THEY TRY TO PUT 53.

>> ALL RIGHT THE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. WELCOME.

>> I'M ACTUALLY HERE REPRESENTING TIM MORLEY. TIM MORLEY COULD NOT MAKE IT. JUAN RIVERA. WE WERE JUST EXCITED TO ANNEX THE PROPERTY TO THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE, ADDING TO THE TAX BASE. WE ARE PLANNING TO DO RESIDENTIAL HOUSING. IT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO IN THE AREA. SO YOU KNOW WHICH SPECIFICALLY WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT THAT.

>> WE JUST HOPE YOU BRING US SOMETHING REALLY, REALLY GOOD.

>> WE ARE ALREADY DOING SOMETHING NEARBY ON A BREAKER PARCEL, YOU KNOW, BUT WE ARE EXCITED TO BE HERE. THANK YOU SO

MUCH. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE ALREADY. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. OKAY. WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. IS THERE

A MOTION OR A DISCUSSION? >> MA'AM, JUST BEFORE I MAKE THE MOTION, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BRINGING THE PUBLIC ALONG WITH THIS AS WELL. ALL WE'RE DOING TONIGHT IS CHANGING THE LAND USE OF THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY SO AS FAR AS AS ANY DESIGN OR FUTURE, THAT COMES AT A LATER POINT IN TIME THEN IT WILL COME BEFORE THIS COMMISSION. WE'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN AND HELP THE DEVELOPER UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS WE HAVE WHEN IT COMES TO SAFETY OR EGRESS , INGRESS, DENSITY, HOW PEOPLE GET IN AND OUT OF THE SITE, ET CETERA, SO THEY'RE DOING THEIR WORK TO DO THAT AND THAT'S THE PROCESS BUT NOW THEY HAVE TO HAVE A CHAIN OF THE ACTUAL LAND-USE, THE ORDINANCES. ACTUALLY A GOOD THING IS COMING FROM THE COUNTY INTO THE CITY AND ITS ADDING TO OUR ABILITY TO INCREASE OUR BUDGET BECAUSE IT'S APPROVED SUBSTANTIAL ADELLA ROOM ADDITION SO IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT THAT WE CAN BEGIN TO BRING SOME NEW OPPORTUNITY FOR HOUSING INTO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE ON THE CITY

TAX ROLE. >> AND IT'S IN AN ENCLAVE?

>> IT'S IN AN ENCLAVE. >> AND IT'S REALLY NOT CHANGING ANYTHING. WE ARE JUST ANNEXING IT, MAKING IT, THE ZONING IS AS

CLOSE TO THE COUNTY. >> WITH THAT, MADAME MAYOR, GO BACK, MR. GILMORE, TO THE LAST PAGE, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY CONDITIONS ON THAT, RIGHT. MADAME MAYOR, I MOVE APPROVAL OF

THIS. >> ALL RIGHT HE. IS THERE A

[E. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 25-033 - Impact Fee Moratorium within Urban Infill and Redevelopment Area. FIRST READING.]

SECOND? CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. >>

>> OKAY. WE HAVE ORDINANCE 25-033, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE, FLORIDA, DIVIDING FOR A MORATORIUM ON THE IMPOSITION AND COLLECTION OF CITY IMPACT FEES FOR A PERIOD OF ONE YEAR WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY'S DESIGNATED URBAN INFILL AND REDEVELOPMENT AREA REQUIRED BY SECTIONS 113-8, 113-15, THROUGH AND INCLUDING 113-19. THE CITY CODE FILLING OUT ORDINANCES OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS THE FIRST READING.

>> ALL RIGHT HE, MS. HARNAGE. >> MADAME MAYOR.

>> MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION, I AM HERE BEFORE YOU WITH THE IMPACT THE MORATORIUM YET AGAIN. IT IS THAT TIME OF YEAR . IT'S BEEN ALMOST 12 MONTHS SINCE WE EXTENDED THIS LAST YEAR AND I JUST WANT TO RUN THROUGH SOME COMPELLING DATA WE HAVE ABOUT SOME NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING IN OUR URBAN AND INFILL REDEVELOPMENT AREA. QUICK OVERVIEW, WE LAUNCHED THIS PROGRAM BACK IN 2020, RIGHT BEFORE THE HEIGHT OF COVID. IT WAS MARCH OF 2020. WE STARTED WITH JUST A SIX MONTH MORATORIUM TO SEE WHAT WE CAN GET IN TERMS OF NEW CONSTRUCTION IN OUR REDEVELOPMENT AREA. WE HAVE SINCE EXPANDED THAT

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YEAR-BY-YEAR. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMISSION TO LOOK AT THE DATA ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, JUST KIND OF SEE WHERE WE ARE AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE IT. ULTIMATELY THIS MORATORIUM, IT REDUCES THE COST OF IMPACT FEES, AT LEAST FOR THE CITY'S IMPACT FEES IN OUR IF THE RA BOUNDARY. A LOT OF TIMES THESE INFILL SITES HAVE THE MUCH-NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE ALREADY IN PLACE. THE ROADS ARE THERE, THE UTILITIES ARE THERE, AND MOST OF OUR PUBLIC SERVICES ARE IN THAT AREA ALREADY. SO NEW CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY, IF YOU'VE LOOKED AT OUR MAP OVER THE YEAR, AND I HAVE A LITTLE LINE CHART TO SHOW YOU, IT HAS BEEN EXTREMELY LIMITED IN OUR REDEVELOPMENT AREA. WE ARE EXPERIENCING EXPLOSIVE GROWTH TO THE WEST AND ALSO TO THE SOUTH AND WE JUST HAD AN ANNEXATION WHICH CONTINUES TO OCCUR WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ENTICE DEVELOPMENT IN THOSE INFILL LOTS WITHIN OUR FE RA? SO THAT IS BASICALLY THE OVERVIEW. HERE'S OUR MAP FOR THIS YEAR. THERE HAS BEEN AN OVERALL DECLINE IN THE VOLUME OF NEW CONSTRUCTION PERMITS CITYWIDE, WHICH I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THROUGH THE BUDGET CYCLE AND AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO FUTURE YEARS BUT I'M EXCITED TO SHARE THAT THE PERCENTAGE OF THE NEW CONSTRUCTION BUILDING PERMITS IN THE FE RA, AS COMPARED TO THE CITY HAS A WHOLE, IS CONTINUING TO INCREASE. SHOW YOU THE MAP HERE BEFORE I GO THROUGH THOSE PRETTY PICTURES. FROM 2021 IT WAS ABOUT 4% OF NEW CONSTRUCTION PERMIT ACTIVITY OCCURRED IN THE FE RA AND WE'VE TRIPLED THAT.

WE ARE JUST OVER 12% NOW IN THIS DISTRICT. AND HERE ARE SOME PICTURES OF SOME OF THE NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT IS OCCURRING.

I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IN YOUR TOP RIGHT CORNER, THOSE ARE TWO NEW COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION BETTER NEARING -- THE BOTTOM ONE HERE ON FLORIDA IS ACTUALLY COMPLETE, I BELIEVE, AND THIS HOLY FAMILY VETERINARIAN IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. IT'S ACTUALLY FURTHER ALONG THAN THAT PICTURE A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL DUPLEXES, A LOT OF SINGLE-FAMILY. IF YOU RIDE AROUND IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHERE THE PORT-A-POTTIES ARE, WHERE NEW CONSTRUCTION IS HAPPENING, AND IT'S JUST REALLY EXCITING TO SEE. AND WITH THAT, THAT IS WHY OUR STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE CONTINUE THIS MORATORIUM FOR ANOTHER 12 MONTHS TO KEEP THIS IMPORTANT INCENTIVE IN OUR TOOLKIT, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO

ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. >> BEFORE YOU ANSWER QUESTIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE A COUNTY COMMISSIONER IN THE AUDIENCE. I'M GLAD HE'S HERE AND I'M GLAD HE'S GOING

TO LISTEN TO THIS DISCUSSION. >> ALL RIGHT HE. DO YOU HAVE

QUESTIONS FOR MS. HARNAGE? >> ACTUALLY GO AROUND LOOKING FOR THE PORTER PARTY. I PREFER CONCRETE BLOCK WALLS THAT ARE

BEING BUILT. >> YOU CAN SPOT THE PORT-A-POTTIES FIRST BECAUSE THEY ARE CLOSER TO THE ROAD.

>> MY ONLY COMMENT ON THIS IS I BELIEVE THE MORATORIUM ON IMPACT FEES, AT LEAST IN THE CITY LEVEL OF THAT, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT THE WHOLE PICTURE AND I KNOW COMMISSIONER CLASS BEGAN THE COUNTY COMMISSION HAS BEEN STUDYING IMPACT FEES SERIOUSLY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, AND I THANK THEM FOR THEIR IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS OF THAT. HOWEVER, IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE THIS TRULY IS AN INCENTIVE TO BUILD AND MY OFFICE IS LOCATED AROUND THE LOWER AVENUE AND TEXAS COURT IN WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED AN INFILL AREA. AND IN THE PERIMETER OF MY OFFICE YOU GET ON ANY SIDE STREET THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE NEW CONSTRUCTION TAKING PLACE. THIS IS NOT RENOVATION, THIS IS THE GROUND NEW PRODUCT SO I BELIEVE THIS IS AN INCENTIVIZED THAT NEW CONSTRUCTION AND FULLY SUPPORT CONTINUING THIS PROGRAM MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT IT IS ACTUALLY SPURRING ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION. SO YOU SAY THAT THERE IS A DROP OFF IMPERMANENT APPLICATIONS, ET CETERA, THAT'S SIMPLY A SIGN OF THE ECONOMIC SITUATION WE FIND OURSELVES IN. BUT THIS IS A GAME CHANGER FOR INFILL AREAS OF THE CITY BECAUSE AS INTEREST RATES CONTINUE TO COME DOWN, IT'S GOING TO SPUR MORE OF THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. I OWN SOME LOTS THAT I DROVE PAST THE NEW CONSTRUCTION, I SAY I WANT ONE OF THOSE AND I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE THAT DUPLICATING ITSELF OVER AND OVER AGAIN. THIS IS QUALITY CONSTRUCTION, GUYS. IT'S NOT CRAP. THIS IS WELL CONSTRUCTED RENTAL HOUSING OR HOMEOWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES, ET CETERA, SO I'M A BIG SUPPORTER OF THIS PROGRAM CONTINUING. THANK YOU,

CHEYENNE. >> MADAME MAYOR, I WANT TO ECHO THIS. I DO IT EVERY YEAR WHEN WE COME TO THIS POINT AND MS. CHESS, I WANT TO CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS ALIGNMENT HERE. WE ACKNOWLEDGED OUR COMMISSIONER, OUR COUNTY COMMISSIONER THAT'S HERE. THIS IS ONE OF THE TOPICS THAT I WOULD LIKE ON OUR ACTUAL CONVERSATION PIECE WHEN WE NEED WITH OUR COUNTY COUNTERPARTS, BECAUSE YOU KNOW EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN UP HERE FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS I'VE ALWAYS LOOKED FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO TRY TO PARTNER WITH THE COUNTY AND A COMMISSIONER SPECIFICALLY FOR OUR FE RA AREAS AND MS. HARNAGE HAS ALREADY MENTIONED THAT THESE SPOTS, THESE AREAS THAT ARE VACANT NOW ONCE HAD HOUSES ON THEM AND NOW THOSE HOUSES ARE NO LONGER THERE AND THERE ARE, I THINK, TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITIES

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IF WE CAN WORK WITH OUR COUNTY COUNTERPARTS TO JOIN US ON THIS MORATORIUM TO SPUR THAT ALONG, TO GET MORE INFILL GROWTH, WHICH OBVIOUSLY ADDS NOT ONLY TO THE AESTHETICS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BUT ALSO THERE ARE MANY STUDIES TO SHOW THAT ONE HOUSES ARE THERE AND PEOPLE ARE LIVING THERE, CRIME, LEADER, ALL OF THAT STUFF GOES DOWN. AND SO WE'RE TALKING TO DEVELOPERS HERE. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS SIMPLY BECAUSE THAT COULD MEAN THE DIFFERENCE THIS MORATORIUM WITH THE CITY AND PERHAPS WITH THE COUNTY COULD LOWER A THRESHOLD JUST ENOUGH TO GET TO THE RIGHT PRICED HOUSE IN THIS INFILL AREAS AND THAT'S THE OTHER THING WE ARE TRYING TO HIT IS MAKING SURE THE DEVELOPERS ARE COMING IN BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME IN AND PUT A HALF MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD KNOWING THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET A HALF $1 MILLION FOR IT. BUT WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO COME IN AND PUT 150, 175, MAYBE A $200,000 HOUSE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT WOULD BE A GREAT INVESTMENT, ESPECIALLY FOR FIRST-TIME HOMEBUYERS, AND HOW DO WE DO MORE OF THAT? SO THANK YOU MS. HARNAGE FOR BRINGING THIS HERE, FOR ALLOWING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE MY PUBLIC STATEMENT AND MAKE MY PLEA THAT WHEN WE DO HAVE OUR MEETING I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION WITH MY COUNTY COUNTERPARTS, OKAY?

>> SURE THING. >> MADAME MAYOR, THEY ARE REALLY NICE. I'M GOING TO LOOK RIGHT AT HIM AND TALK TO HIM.

COMMISSIONER, YOU ARE HERE. YOU HEAR THIS. I KNOW YOUR GUYS ARE LOOKING AT IT AND IF IT SERVES ME RIGHT I THINK THIS MIGHT BE YOUR AREA IN OTHER COUNTIES SO IF YOU WANT TO PUSH SOMETHING WHERE YOU WANT TO TRY SOMETHING, THIS WILL BE PRIME AREA TO DO IT BECAUSE I SAY THIS AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, IT'S NOT FT. PIERCE AND ST. LUCIE COUNTY. FT. PIERCE IS PART OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY AND PEOPLE SOMETIMES TRY TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION. SO I WOULD LOVE TO, YOU KNOW, LET THE COUNTY HELP US DO THIS AREA. SO ANY HELP THAT YOU COULD HELP, YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH US AND WE GO SO SINCE YOU'RE HERE, I SAW YOU WALKING IN , SINCE YOU ARE HERE I'M GOING TO CALL YOU OUT BECAUSE I KNOW IF YOU GO TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION ACCOUNT YOU SEE ME THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO CALL ME OUT SITTING IN THE BACK BUT I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE. I'M GLAD YOU HEAR THIS. I'M GLAD YOU SAW THE NUMBERS. SO IF YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING FOR AN AREA TO SAY, LET'S TRY TO SEE IF IT WORKED, PLEASE PICK THIS AREA AND WE'LL SHOW YOU THAT IT WORKS SO MS. HARNAGE, THANK YOU FOR THAT. GREAT TIMING AND I'VE ALSO SEEN THE PORT-A-POTTIES . SOMETIMES SO MANY PORT-A-POTTIES UNLIKE I'M IN THE WRONG BUSINESS BECAUSE THERE'S PORT-A-POTTIES EVERYWHERE IN THESE AREAS. I'M JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU BUT THAT'S A GOOD THING AND FORMER COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON IS ALSO IN THE AUDIENCE AND ONE OF THE THINGS HE WOULD SAY IS THAT, BECAUSE HE USED TO DRIVE AROUND, HE WOULD SAY THAT IS THE DIRT BEING KEPT ON THE SITE, SO THEY ARE, AND YOU KNOW, UNTIL I SIT BY HIM I NEVER REALIZED, I JUST THOUGHT THEY PUT WHATEVER, I GET IT NOW BUT WHEN YOU DRIVE AROUND YOU JUST DON'T SEE . YOU JUST DON'T SEE PEOPLE TRYING TO BUILD SOMETHING, FOR SOMETHING TOGETHER IN THESE AREAS NOW.

THESE ARE CONTRACTORS THAT ARE DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY AND THERE IS NO DIRT AND DEBRIS THAT IS GOING INTO THE ROADS OR IN THE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY. SO IT'S JUST A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO KEEP GOING, AND ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO SPREAD THE GROWTH IN THIS AREA, I LOVE IT BECAUSE AGAIN ECHOING WHAT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SAID, IF YOU GET SOMEONE OWNERSHIP OF SOMETHING, IT CHANGES THEIR WHOLE OUTLOOK OF THAT AREA. NOW IF THEY OWN IT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE BOTTLES, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE TRASH, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THE STUFF WHERE IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT MINDSET, SO IT JUST GOES INTO EVERYTHING WE ARE TRYING TO DO TO CLEAN THE CITY, TO DO EVERYTHING. SO I LOVE THIS AND I'M READY TO SEE

THE NUMBERS NEXT YEAR. >> AND I HAD ONE OTHER THING? ALSO POINT OUT THAT ON THAT NOTE THE MAJORITY OF THESE CONSTRUCTION JOBS ARE FROM LOCAL CONTRACTORS SO THEY ARE LOCAL ENTREPRENEURS THAT ARE MAKING THE STEP UP TO NEW CONSTRUCTION, HIRING LOCAL SUBS, ET CETERA. THE TRICKLE-DOWN OF THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS REALLY REMARKABLE AND IT'S INSTIGATED BY THIS MORATORIUM ON THE IMPACT FEES. BUT I'M THRILLED TO SEE. I STOP AT THE JOB SITES. I DON'T KNOW THESE PEOPLE. ESPECIALLY GOT A CITY SHIRT ON, THEY THINK ON A BUILDING DEPARTMENT OR SOMETHING BUT I INTRODUCE MYSELF AND CONGRATULATE THEM ON A TREMENDOUS JOB SITE THAT THEY'RE RUNNING, ET CETERA, AND THEY ARE BEAMING EAR TO EAR, KNOWING THAT THEY ARE BEING RECOGNIZED FOR

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DOING A QUALITY JOB FOR THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF FT.

PIERCE. I SAY WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH THIS ONE THERE IS A LOT OVER THERE THAT'S FOR SALE, WHY DON'T YOU BUY THAT ONE AND BUILD OVER THERE? YOU CAN SEE THE DUPLICATION PROCESS IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE AND IT'S VERY EXCITING TO SEE THAT THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE FROM HERE, THAT COME UP THROUGH THE TRADES AND THEY'RE NOW WILLING TO PUT RISK CAPITAL TO WORK AND GET OUT THERE AND DO IT, AND HAVE A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT FOR KYLE FLOOD THEM WHEN I SHOW UP ON THESE JOBSITES BECAUSE I'M EXCITED FOR THEM. I'M EXCITED FOR THE CITY. I'M EXCITED FOR THE END USER AND I'M JUST DOING THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. THEY'RE GOING TO BE VERY SUCCESSFUL ENTREPRENEURS.

>> MS. HARNAGE, THE F PRA AREA IS FOR THE AUDIENCE AND ANYBODY WATCHING SO THAT THEY KNOW WHERE THIS APPLIES BECAUSE SOMETIMES PEOPLE GET A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THAT AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE YOU DID, THE FACT THAT THIS IS ALREADY AREA WITH INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE MOST PART AND IMPACT THESE ARE SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR FUTURE GROWTH. I KNOW THAT BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE WE HAVE GOOD, SOUND REASON FOR DOING THIS. SO THE F PRA AREA IS

THE DARK GRAY AREA. >> THE RED BOUNDARY HERE, MAYOR, SO IT'S GEORGIA AVENUE TO THE SOUTH, 33RD GENERALLY TO THE WEST. IT ALSO INCLUDES THIS LITTLE JOB OUT HERE. AVENUE Q TO THE NORTH AND OCEAN DOWN TO JAYCEE PARK AT MELALEUCA.

>> OKAY. SO THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY OF FORT.

I, TOO, AM IN FAVOR OF THIS AND I'M GLAD COMMISSIONER FIVE

POINT >> MADAME MAYOR, JUST QUICK, SOME SMALLER CALLOUTS BECAUSE THAT MAP CHANGED AT THE TOP PART THERE TO INCLUDE SOME AREAS HERE AND WAS THIS RECENTLY A TOP AREA

RIGHT HERE? >> THIS IS THE ORIGINAL EXPANDED AREA. THIS IS LIKE MAYBE FROM THE '80S SO IT DOES GO UP HERE.

THIS IS 25TH HERE. >> IS THAT PARADISE PARK?

>> THIS IS GARDEN CITY ELEMENTARY.

>> GARDEN CITY, OKAY. I GOT IT NOW. I GOT MY BOUNDARIES.

>> ISN'T THIS -- AM I REMEMBERING IS THE SAINT

ANASTASIA DOWN HERE? >> THIS IS SAINT ANASTASIA HERE.

THEY HAD THAT CHURCH EXPANSION LAST YEAR THAT WAS INCLUDED IN

OUR DATA. >> RIGHT.

>> I GOT IT, THANK YOU. >> GARDEN CITY

AVENUE Q? >> THAT'S Q. THAT IS GARDEN

CITY. >> GARDEN CITY IS NEAR 25TH. IS

THAT 25TH? >> FURTHER IN.

>> THIS IS WHERE THE HEADSTART IS, WHERE THE BOYS AND GIRLS

CLUB IS. >> 21ST STREET. 21ST AND --

>> THAT'S THE OLD GARDEN CITY.

>> THE OLD, YET. WHATEVER IT'S CALLED. IT'S CALLED SOMETHING

NOW. >> WE STILL CALL IT GARDEN CITY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S CALLED NOW.

>> I DON'T EITHER. WE SHOULD FIND OUT.

>> MADAME MAYOR, I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION. APPROVAL

APARTMENTS 25-003. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND, CALL THE ROLL PLEASE.

>> STARTED CALLING THE ROLL ] >> OKAY. WE MOVE ON TO, UNDER

[A. Six-month evaluation of Richard Chess, City Manager]

CITY COMMISSION, THE SIX-MONTH EVALUATION OF RICHARD CHEST, OUR

CITY MANAGER. >> ALREADY. I WOULD BE GLAD TO START AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, MR. CHESS, THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SENSE OF HUMOR. IT'S REALLY A PLEASURE TO WORK WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE VERY RELAXED AND EASY PERSON TO WORK WITH AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK YOU HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE COMMAND OF WHAT WE'RE DOING IN FT. PIERCE IN YOUR SIX MONTHS. I'VE NOW HEARD YOU SPEAK TWICE AND I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH WHAT YOU HAVE, THE KNOWLEDGE YOU GAINED, AND I THINK THAT YOU'RE A STAFF CHAMPION, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, EXCEPT THAT YOU'RE NOT A PUSHOVER. I APPRECIATE THAT, TOO, AND I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING TO HELP THE STAFF AND DEVELOP THE STAFF, AND REALLY IMPROVE STAFF MORALE. YOUR REALLY WORKING ON THAT AND I APPRECIATE THAT. I'M ODD AT YOUR ANALYTIC -- YOU'RE ANALYTICAL AND NOT EMOTIONAL, AND YOU JUST GO THROUGH VERY DISPASSIONATELY AND PROFESSIONALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE. I THINK THAT I'M GLAD THAT WE DID THE WHOLE REWORK OF THE PURCHASING AND I THINK THE PROCESS IS PROBABLY IMPROVED. I THINK WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS JUST IMPROVE WITH SOME OF OUR STAFFING AND SOME OF OUR

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REPORTING, AND THAT'S YOUR JOB, NOT MINE, BUT I THINK PURCHASING, THE PROCESSES HAVE BEEN IMPROVED, WE JUST HAVE TO LIVE UP TO THOSE PROCESSES AND I THINK THAT YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT SO THAT DOESN'T COME AS A SURPRISE. YOU AND I ALSO TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE ARE DEVELOPING THE STAFF, YOU HAVE PLANS FOR CONTINUED PROFESSIONAL GROWTH AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT IS WITH THE ETHICS, AND YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THAT, TOO AS A COMPONENT OF GROWING THE STAFF AND MAKING SURE THEY'RE ALWAYS CONSCIOUS OF THE ETHICAL -- THEIR ETHICAL OBLIGATION. AND YOU ALSO EMPHASIZED THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND LIVING BY THE STRATEGIC PLAN, VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IT GIVES US -- WE WORK HARD ON THAT EVERY YEAR AND IT'S OUR PLAN TO LIVE UP TO -- I KNOW THINGS HAPPEN SOMETIMES THAT GET IN THE WAY OF THAT OR MAYBE WE AREN'T ALWAYS ABLE TO KEEP TO OUR PRIORITIES BECAUSE WE GET DIVERTED AND I'M ASKING YOU TO KEEP US ON TASK AND I THINK THAT THE KING'S LANDING DEVELOPMENT WHICH HAS NOW BEEN APPROVED AND BACK ON, THAT WE NEED TO REALLY WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS A SUCCESS BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING AND THE PUBLIC KIND OF LOST SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN APPROVED AND GOING TO HAPPEN. SO THE CONSTRUCTION ON THE INDIAN RIVER DRIVE IS GOING TO START SOON SO I KNOW ONE OF YOUR PRIORITIES IS THE POLICE CHIEF AND I APPRECIATE THE PROFESSIONAL WAY YOU'RE GOING ABOUT IT, AND ALSO I HEARD YOU IN YOUR SPEECH THE OTHER DAY TALK ABOUT MAKING FT.

PIERCE CLEAN AND SAFE AND I THINK THAT THE REST OF THE COMMISSION, WE WERE ALL ON THAT SAME PAGE. ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO TURN YOUR ATTENTION TO SOON, BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED IT, IS YOUR DEPUTY, YOUR NEW DEPUTY THAT'S GOING TO BE DEALING WITH ALL THE LEASES AND EVERYTHING, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO HELP YOU AND HELP US TREMENDOUSLY WITH OUR PURCHASING PROCESSES, I BELIEVE, AND REALLY GET US ON TRACK BECAUSE LITTLE JIM HAS HAPPENED, THE WAY IT HAPPENED, AND NOW WE'VE GOT OTHER ONES COMING, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THEM RIGHT, AND SO ALSO THE LEGISLATURE IS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT US AND LOOKING AT PROPERTY TAXES IN ALL CITIES, AND WE ARE, ALL OF US ARE GOING TO BE TAXED TO SAY, YES, THESE ARE OUR PROPERTY TAXES, THIS IS WHAT WE PAY FOR, THIS IS WHAT WE PAY FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT. THESE ARE ESSENTIAL THINGS AND I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE HELPING US WITH THAT BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT IN THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION. SO -- AND ALSO CODE ENFORCEMENT, I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE SOME CHANGES THERE AND WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT SOME MORE TEETH IN WHAT WE ARE DOING IN TERMS OF KEEPING FOR YOUR SAFE AND CLEAN. SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT YOUR SIX MONTHS HAS BEEN -- YOU GOT THROWN RIGHT INTO THE DEEP END AND SO FAR I'M VERY PLEASED.

>> THANK YOU MADAME MAYOR. >> WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO NEXT?

>> I'LL GO. >> THANK YOU MADAME MAYOR. MR. CHESS. YOU KNOW WHEN I FIRST MET YOU, ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS I ASK YOU, WHY YOU WANTED THIS JOB, BECAUSE YOU'RE WALKING INTO A HORNETS NEST, WAS OUR CONVERSATION. I APPRECIATE YOU.

YOU COME RIGHT IN, ROLLED TO ALL YOUR SLEEVES UP AND GETTING WITH STAFF, GETTING WITH THE DIRECTORS AND THE SECOND LINE MANAGERS, AND SAYING THIS IS WHAT YOU EXPECT, AND YOU DID IT WITH SUCH A WAY THAT IT WASN'T CONDESCENDING. YOU JUST TOLD THEM THIS IS WHAT TO EXPECT. YOU WALKED INTO A HORNETS NEST. YOU WALKED INTO A HORNETS NEST BUT I LIKE HOW YOU HAVE SYSTEMATICALLY STARTED TO NOT ONLY ATTACK AND TRY TO FIX THE PROBLEMS BUT YOU ARE NOT AFRAID TO CALL OUT THE PROBLEMS AND BRING IT TO OUR ATTENTION. YOU KNOW THAT'S REFRESHING BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THAT YOU KNOW WE HEARD PROBLEMS HERE BEFORE WE HAD MEETINGS WITH YOU. YOU -- THE BUDGET, THE WORK YOU AND JOHN

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DID ON THE BUDGET TO GO FROM RED TO LESS RED, TO WHATEVER WE DID, YOU KNOW THAT JUST SHOWS, I KNOW IN THE BEGINNING A LOT OF THE PUBLIC WERE KIND OF UPSET WITH YOU BECAUSE THEY WANTED ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS AND WHEN THEY CALLED ME I WAS LIKE, GUYS, WE DIDN'T HIRE HIM TO HAVE ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS. HE'S TRYING TO FIX THE CITY. GIVE HIM TIME AND HE WILL MEET WITH YOU.

YOU HAVE NOT RAN AWAY FROM MEETING WITH ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC BUT THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WALKED INTO SOMETHING AND YOU'RE TRYING TO FIX A CITY THAT APPARENTLY WE NEEDED SOME FIXING. SO YOU MADE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS IN YOUR SIX MONTHS TO GO IN WHAT THE MAYOR SAID. I LIKE HOW WHEN YOU SEE THE PURCHASING OR THE RFPS AND RQS AND ALL THIS STUFF AND YOU SAY, WHAT IS THIS, YOU'RE WILLING TO SAY WHAT IS THIS AND WHAT IS THIS AND YOU TRY TO FIX IT FOR YOU TRY TO SAY THIS NEEDS TO BE CHANGED OR THIS IS WRONG AND IF IT HURTS, I NEED YOU TO KEEP DOING IT. IF IT HURTS SOME TOES OR SOME FEELINGS, WE ARE ALL GROWN. YOU KNOW YOU'VE WORKED WELL. YOU KNOW WE'VE CLASHED AND YOU'VE WORKED WELL WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, CITY MANAGER, AND OUR MEETINGS, I ALWAYS SAY, GUYS, IT'S YOU THREE THAT I'M COUNTING ON TO DO WHATEVER. SO GET IT RIGHT AND BRING IT BACK TO US, AND LET US VOTE ON IT. SO I'M HAPPY YOU'RE STILL HERE IN SIX MONTHS. I KNOW YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN LIKE, TWO MONTHS IN, I'M OUT OF HERE, BUT YOU DIDN'T. YOU ARE HERE SIX MONTHS. I HEARD SOME OF THE SPEECHES AND GOT SOME FEEDBACK SO I'M JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO -- I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH YOU AND FOR THE PUBLIC THAT IS UPSET OR HE HASN'T MET WITH HIM OR HE HAS DONE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANTED HIM TO DO, I CAN TELL YOU THAT HE'S GOING TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT AND HE'S GOING TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. IT'S NO MORE OF THIS YOU KNOW TALK TO A CERTAIN PERSON OR TALK TO SOMEBODY IN THE CITY, OR GET SOME FAVORITISM OR WHATEVER.

IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK YOU TO DO, AND I'VE SAID THIS TO YOU, I'VE SAID THIS TO YOU PERSONALLY, YOU WERE KIND OF LAID-BACK FIRST TWO MONTHS AND I TOLD YOU, OKAY, YOU HAD THE FIRST TWO MONTHS AND YOU FINALLY TOOK OFF A GLOVE. I'M ASKING YOU TO TAKE OFF BOTH GLOVES AND ROLL YOUR SLEEVES UP, AND GET DOWN TO DOING WHAT WE HIRED YOU TO DO TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT YOU KNOW ARE THERE, AND BRING THEM TO OUR ATTENTION, AND PUT THEM ON THE AGENDA SO WE CAN DISCUSS THEM WITH MY COLLEAGUES, SO WE CAN GET THE CITY BACK.

COULD YOU'VE HEARD THE COMMENTS TONIGHT. YOU'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT THE RESIDENCE OF FT. PIERCE HAVE GONE THROUGH AND THEY ARE LOOKING FOR A CHANGE. THEY ARE LOOKING FOR US TO BE RESPONSIBLE OF SPENDING THIS MONEY, RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING THINGS THE RIGHT WAY. I MEAN ALL OF THIS WEEK YOU KNOW, ALL YOU HEARD WAS LITTLE JIM IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA, LITTLE JIM IN THE PAPER, AND BECAUSE WHATEVER HAPPENED HAPPENED, I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER, I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT. WHATEVER HAPPENED, HAPPENED, BUT WHAT I NEED YOU TO DO IS THAT WHATEVER YOU SEE WRONG OR YOU SEE SOMETHING WRONG, STOP IT THEN. DON'T LET IT GO OUT. I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY MORE ARTICLES IN THE PAPER, SEE IT IN THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE DID THIS, THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE DIDN'T DO THAT. WE GAVE YOU THE JOB, READ IT, REVIEW IT AND MAKE SURE IT'S RIGHT SO WE SPEND SOMETHING IN THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE OR REDO SOMETHING IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, NO ONE IS COMING UP HERE SAYING, WHY DID YOU DO THIS, WHY DID YOU DO THAT? THEY UNDERSTAND WHY YOU DID IT AND THEY NEED TO GO AND SAY WE UNDERSTAND WHY YOU DID IT, WE STILL DON'T LIKE IT BUT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU DID, WE LIKE IT. THAT'S JUST WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. LIKE I SAID, YOU CAN CURE CANCER, SOMEBODY GOING TO STAND THERE AND BE MAD THAT YOU CURED CANCER. I HAD TO LEARN THAT SO WITH THAT I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT SIX MONTHS OF WORKING WITH YOU. YOU HAVE AN OPEN POLICY AND I HAVE SEEN -- I HAVE PERSONALLY SEEN THE CHANGE OF THE ATMOSPHERE OF CITY HALL SINCE YOU WALKED THROUGH THE DOOR AND TO ME, THAT MEANS MORE TO ME BECAUSE YOU HAVE SHOWN THE STAFF OF CITY HALL THAT YOU CARE ABOUT THEM

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AND YOU WANT THEM TO SUCCEED IN THEIR POSITIONS HERE OR WE BROUGHT UP THE LAST MEETING, OPPORTUNITY TO GROW WITH INSIDE THE CITY, AND THAT MEANS A LOT TO ME BECAUSE WE HAVE GREAT STAFF IN THE CITY HALL AND THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, SO WITH

THAT, MADAME MAYOR, I PASS. >> WHO WANTS TO GO NEXT?

>> I'LL COME IN, ADAM MAYOR. MR. JESS, THANK YOU FOR ACCEPTING THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME WORK WITH THE CITY OF FT.

PIERCE. THAT PROCESS WE WENT THROUGH, YOU STOOD OUT. YOU STOOD OUT IN THE INTERVIEWS. YOUR WEALTH OF EXPERIENCE ACROSS A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU'VE BEEN IN IN YOUR LIFE MAKES YOU THE PERFECT CANDIDATE FOR THIS, NOT ONLY STRONG FINANCIAL BACKGROUND BUT DEALING WITH DIFFERENT ENTITIES, DIFFERENT CULTURES AND INCORPORATE THAT YOU MANAGE, THAT LEND YOU TO BE THE GREAT CANDIDATE WE HAVE HERE OR THE GREAT PERSON WE HAVE IS OUR CITY MANAGER. WE ARE COUNTING ON YOU AS A CEO TO MAKE THE TOUGH DECISIONS HERE AND THEN MORE IMPORTANTLY MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS COMMUNICATED OUT TO THE PUBLIC, RIGHT? AND AS YOU'VE COME INTO THIS ROLE IN THE SIX MONTHS I'VE EVALUATED AND SEEN YOU, YOU'VE GROWN IN YOUR CONFIDENCE. I'VE NOTICED THAT. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BEING OPEN TO TOURING THE CITY WITH ME AND JUST REALLY TRYING TO LEARN ABOUT OUR CULTURE, AND WHO WE ARE IN THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE.

AND THAT'S NOT JUST TO LINCOLN PARK THAT WE TOURED ALL OVER THE CITY AND JUST REALLY TRYING TO GIVE YOU THE PERSPECTIVE THAT I UP WITH HERE AND WHERE WE ARE, AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO, AND SO IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE TO SEE YOUR CONFIDENCE GROW , YOU KNOW, IN LEADERSHIP. NOT EVERYONE IS GOING TO AGREE WITH THE LEADERSHIP DECISIONS BUT LEADERSHIP DECISIONS HAVE TO BE MADE AND THEY HAVE TO BE MADE TO THE POINT THAT THEY ARE FAIR.

PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT MAY NOT GO THEIR WAY BUT IF AS LONG AS IT'S FAIR AND IT'S DOCUMENTED AS TO WHY AND WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO GO, THEN THAT IS WHAT WE ASK YOU TO DO.

YOU'VE ALREADY MADE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS. YOUR PROCESS OF COMING TO US LAST WEEK TO TALK ABOUT DEVELOPMENT OF STAFF IS KEY. I'VE BEEN PREACHING THAT SINCE DAY ONE. YOU ARE THE HEAD OF THE LEADERS SO LEADERS NEED TO BE DEVELOPED AND THE PEOPLE THAT WORK UNDER YOU IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND YOUR AREA ARE THE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO BE DEVELOPED. AND AS THAT TOP LEADER, YOU NEED TO CONTINUE TO CHALLENGE AND YOU NEED TO PUT IN FRONT OF THEM GOALS, AND THOSE GOALS ALSO NEED TO BE STRETCH GOALS, AND WE WILL SEE A BETTER CITY AS A RESULT OF THAT SO AS YOU CONTINUE TO GROW IN THAT CONFIDENCE AND WORK THROUGH THE CHALLENGES THAT YOU HAVE, YOU'VE IDENTIFIED MANY OF THEM BUT THERE WILL BE SOME THAT YOU HAVE NOT YET IDENTIFIED THAT WILL COME AT YOU PRETTY FAST, AND SO JUST KNOW THAT AS A COMMISSIONER SITTING HERE, I'M WILLING ALWAYS TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, TO GIVE A PERSPECTIVE AND GIVE YOU MY HONEST FEEDBACK, BUT ULTIMATELY I'M COUNTING ON YOU TO MAKE THE DECISION. AND SO DECISIONS THAT YOU MAKE AS A CITY MANAGER IMPACT 50,000-PLUS ABLE THAT LIVE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, AND FOR EVEN GREATER THAT LIVE IN THE COUNTY, OBVIOUSLY, THAT HAVE THE FT. PIERCE BEHIND THEIR NAME AND THIS MANTRA, THIS MOTTO THAT I INTRODUCED, ONE FT. PIERCE IS REALLY THAT, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT WE ARE IN THIS TOGETHER. WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT COHESIVENESS, YOUR ABILITY TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY, AND YOUR COUNTERPART THERE, EVEN REACHING OUT TO THE PORT OF ST. LUCIE AND AS WE ORCHESTRATE THIS MEETING BETWEEN OUR CITIES AND COUNTIES AND DEVELOP, IT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT THAT THEY UNDERSTAND OUR AGENDA, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THAT WE WORK TOGETHER TO UNDERSTAND THEIRS AS WELL AND WE WORK TOGETHER, SO GREAT START TO SIX MONHS .

YOU'RE GOING TO BE HERE FOR OUR FIRST KIND OF HOLIDAY SEASON. WE TAKE ON A LITTLE DIFFERENT GENRE WHEN IT COMES TO THE HOLIDAY, AND WE ARE GETTING INTO THE COOLER PART OF OUR SEASONING. SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO GROW AND DO THE THINGS WE NEED TO DO TO BE COMPASSIONATE TO THOSE IN OUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY AS THIS TIME OCCURS, AND I KNOW THAT YOU WILL DO THAT AS WELL AND BE GREAT TO SEE YOU OUT, CONTINUE TO BE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. YOU HAD A RESIDENT HERE TONIGHT TO COME AND SPEAK ABOUT ACTIONS THAT YOU'VE TAKEN AT THE BEHEST, I'M SURE, OF CONVERSATIONS THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE HAD WITH YOU. THIS CONVERSATIONS WILL CONTINUE. THERE ARE MANY MORE CITIZENS REACHING OUT THAT REALLY NEED SUPPORT AND HELP AND IT'S GOING TO BE UP TO YOU TO HOLD YOUR LEADERS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE

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ACTIONS THAT THEY TAKE, POSITIVELY AND NEGATIVELY, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT POSITIVELY TO REALLY ENCOURAGE AND POUR INTO THEM TO DRIVE THE RESULTS THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO GET. SO CONGRATULATIONS ON FIRST SIX MONTHS AND MANY MORE TO COME. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.

>> MADAME, FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS FOR POSTPONING THIS CONVERSATION BY A WEEK. AS YOU ARE PROBABLY AWARE, I WAS -- I HAD MY FIRST ROUND OF COVID AFTER HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN, AROUND SIX YEARS NOW, FIVE YEARS TO? EXACTLY . I WOULD BE IN THE BACK ROW. NO, I WOULDN'T COME HERE IF I WAS STILL TESTING POSITIVE BUT I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND MAYOR TO PUT THIS OFF BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS A CONVERSATION THAT I NEEDED TO BE INVOLVED WITH IN THE CONTEXT OF DISCUSSING THAT WHILE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ARE SPEAKING TO THIS POINT, AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS I'M NOT GOING TO DWELL ON THIS HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE HERE BUT I AM THE ONLY COMMISSIONER THAT VOTED NO IN YOUR HIGHER, ESTHER CHEST. THAT'S A DOCUMENTED FACT. I MADE MY DECISION AT THE TIME BASED ON THE FACT THAT I HAD IN FRONT OF ME, AND IT WAS NOT THE QUALITY OF THE MARK OR DEMAND BY ANY. IT WAS MORE WHAT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON AND COMMISSIONER GAINES ARE GETTING AT, IS THAT THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF CHANGE REQUIRED TO GET THE CITY STRAIGHTENED OUT WAS SO OVERWHELMING THAT IT TOOK ME ABOUT TWO YEARS IN DECEIT TO FIGURE OUT HOW BOTTOMLESS THE PIT OF PROBLEMS IS HERE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, AND I'M JUST THINKING CANDIDLY. I THINK MANY OF YOU KNOW ME, YOU'RE GOING TO GET IT STRAIGHT FROM ME. I'M NOT GOING TO SUGARCOAT ANYTHING BUT HAVING HAD SAID THAT, IN HINDSIGHT, AND IT'S NOT OFTEN THAT I HAVE TO ADMIT THIS, BUT I WAS WRONG AND I ADMIT IT. I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE MAN IN THE JOB AT THE TIME THAT WE NEED HIM BUT HAVING HAD SAID THAT, THE PROBLEMS IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE ARE EXTENSIVE.

THEY'VE BEEN GOING ON FOR DECADES, EXPECTING THIS GENTLEMAN WORKING WITH THE CITY COMMISSION TO RESOLVE THIS IN SIX MONTHS IS IMPOSSIBLE AND I REMEMBER ONE OF THE FIRST DISCUSSIONS I HAD WITH HIM, I SAID ARE YOU SURE YOU REALLY WANT TO BE HERE? SIT DOWN FOR 10 MINUTES, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THIS STUFF OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THAT IS MASSIVELY CONTROVERSIAL, MASSIVELY PROBLEMATIC FOR THE CITY, AND IT'S A BURDEN, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO FIX THESE PROBLEMS OVERNIGHT, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE. HOWEVER, CHANGE IS CREATED ONE MATTER AT A TIME AND I GET IT. I'M KIND OF THE BLUNT INSTRUMENT OF YOUR. I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M KNOWN FOR. MR. CHESS I THINK HAS MORE OF A SURGICAL HAND IN FIXING THE WOUNDS OF THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE CITY. YOU TRULY ARE A CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER AND I SAY THAT AS A TRUE COMPLEMENT. YOU ARE SKILLED AT IT AND I AM CONFIDENT THAT WE ARE GOING TO DEAL WITH ONE ISSUE AT A TIME, AND THE PYRAMID WILL BE BUILT. IS THE SHINING CITY ON THE HILL. I SEE IT. EVERYBODY IN THE CITY OF FT.

PIERCE SEES IT. WE JUST NEED THE LEADER THAT'S GOING TO ASSIST THE CITY COMMISSION IN GETTING THERE, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THAT PERSON IN THAT SEAT NOW. I ASKED HIM PRIOR TO ME GETTING COVID AT OUR SENIOR STAFF MEETING, I HAD A ONE-ON-ONE MEETING WITH MR. CHESS AND I ASKED HIM STRAIGHT UP, I SAID ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO STAY HERE NOW THAT YOU'VE KIND OF RIPPED OFF THE BAND-AID AD SEEN AT LEAST AT THE SURFACE POINT THE PROBLEMS THAT THE CITY IS CONFRONTING? AND HE JUST SAID TO ME, YES, WE CAN DO BETTER. IT'S A CHALLENGE. WE ARE ALL GOING TO BE CHALLENGED BY THIS THE SAME DIRECTION WITH OUR CHARTER OFFICERS, OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS AND OFFICE STAFF UNDERNEATH IT, WHICH BY THE WAY, THEY SPEAK GLOWINGLY OF YOU, YOUR SUBORDINATES AND YOUR STAFF GIVE YOU THE HIGHEST OF PRAISE AND THAT TO ME IS THE MARK OF A MAN. SO HAVING HAD SAID THAT, ESTHER CHEST, I THINK I'M GOING TO ADMIT WHEN I'M WRONG AND I ENJOY WORKING WITH YOU BECAUSE I SEE WHEN YOU GET THAT SCALPEL OUT, I DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE WAY, BECAUSE IT'S COMING AND THE CHANGES YOU MADE SO FAR I THINK HAVE BEEN A SIGN TO THE ENTIRE FOOTPRINT OF THE CITY THAT CHANGES HERE, IT'S BEING IMPLEMENTED , AND YOU HAD THE RESPECT OF THE CITY COMMISSION

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TO GET THIS DONE, AND I THINK THAT'S A CRITICAL, CRITICAL COMPONENT THAT YOU HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE CITY COMMISSIONERS. AND IF YOU DON'T, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT IT IN YOUR ONE-ON-ONES. I KNOW THAT FOR A FACT, SO HAVING HAD SAID THAT, I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH YOU, LISTENING TO YOUR SUGGESTIONS TO IMPROVE THE CITY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE, IMPROVE OUR OPERATIONS, IMPROVE EVERYTHING GLOBALLY, AND AS WE STEP ON THE NEXT LANDMINE, BECAUSE THERE'S STILL 1000 OF THEM OUT THERE, GUESS WHAT THAT WE'VE GOT THE TO CLEAN IT UP AND MOVE ON, FIX IT AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE, AND WITH YOUR STEWARDSHIP, WORKING WITH THE CITY COMMISSION AND THE OTHER CHARTER OFFICERS, AND ARE CONFIDENT WE'RE GOING TO BE THERE SO THANK YOU FOR CONVINCING ME THAT YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO STAY AND I ASKED YOU I THINK THREE TIMES, I SAID ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT BUT SEE, HE'S MOTIVATED. HE'S DIALED IN AND HE'S PREPARED TO EXECUTE SO UNPREPARED TO WORK ON IN ARM WITH YOU TO GET THAT DONE.

>> THANK YOU. I COULD JUST SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY ON YOU'VE BEEN GREAT WITH ME FROM DAY ONE AND YOU'VE BEEN TRANSPARENT, GAVE ME GUIDANCE, GAVE ME THE LATITUDE TO MAKE DECISIONS AND FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITHOUT JUST BOXING ME INTO A CORNER, DO IT YOUR WAY. YOU GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT AND SPEAK WITH THE MANAGEMENT TEAM, WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO ME, AND MORE SO WORKING WITH THE CITY CLERK AND CITY ATTORNEY, THEY'VE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF ME. OF COURSE WE HAVE OTHERS THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO. YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE THEM TOGETHER AGREEING ON EVERYTHING. THAT'S NOT A GOOD

THING EITHER. >> ON EVERYTHING, WE WOULDN'T

NEED ALL THREE OF YOU. >> SO I WORKED VERY WELL WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, CITY CLERK, I APPRECIATE THEM. I CAN'T DO ANYTHING BY MYSELF AND THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE HAD A MEETING THIS MORNING AND WE TALKED ABOUT CLEANING UP THE CITY. WE TALKED ABOUT THE MAJOR CORRIDORS, ORANGE AVENUE FROM 95 TO U.S. 1, U.S. 1 FROM VIRGINIA AVENUE UP TO 18 AVENUE AS WELL. SO WE WANT TO GET TOGETHER INTERNALLY VERSUS DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THEN WHAT CAN WE DO TO ENHANCE THE LOOK ON OUR CORRIDORS AND GET THE PUBLIC INPUT ON THAT? WHAT DO THEY WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE AS WELL? I DON'T HAVE ALL THE IDEAS BUT I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ALONE AND THE STAFF KNOWS MORE SO THEY NEED ANYTHING FROM ME, I RESPECT THE INDIVIDUAL. THEIR COMPETENCE MEANS A LOT TO ME BUT YOUR RESPECT FOR EACH OTHER MEANS THE MOST TO ME. YOU RESPECT EACH OTHER. YOU HAVE MY RESPECT. I CAN TEACH SKILL SETS IN CERTAIN MATTERS BUT I CAN'T DO I'M NOT HERE TO TEACH SOMEONE HOW TO BE AN ADULT. YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO DO THAT AND RESPECT EACH OTHER. YOU RESPECT EACH OTHER FIRST, YOU HAVE MY FULL SUPPORT, AND MY JOB IS TO COME TO WORK EVERY DAY, BE RESPECTFUL, IDENTIFY THOSE AREAS OF IMPROVEMENT AND BRING IT TO YOU ALL. I GOT A GOOD EMAIL FROM A COMPANY THAT DOES CODE ENFORCEMENT TEMPORARY SERVICES. I WANT TO LOOK INTO THAT. I WANT TO GET US LEVEL SET WITH THAT. I WANT TO BE MORE PROACTIVE AND WE HAVE TO BRING SOMEONE IN, LEVEL SET IT FOR SEVERAL MONTHS AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE STANDARD, NOT SOMEONE COMING INTO A CAMPAIGN AND GOES AWAY THOSE ARE THINGS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS A GROUP AND IT'S A LOT, I WAS AT THE FRA CONFERENCE WITH THE COMMISSIONERS, THEY SAID YOU KNOW, YOU ARE VERY HIGH-ENERGY, VERY HIGH-LEVEL, I WAS TALKING A LOT BUT THEY TOLD ME THAT JUST BE WHO YOU ARE, RIGHT? I AM WHO I AM. I GET INTO THE COMMUNITY MORE SO, AS YOU SAID, OTHERS WILL GET TO KNOW ME MORE PERSONALLY. I'M ABOUT PROMOTING THE CITY OF FORT PIERCING THE BEST WAY AND RESPECTING EVERYONE'S CONCERNS, LOOK FORWARD TO GOING TO THE BAYSIDE, WHICH YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO SHOW ME AROUND, SHOWING THE AREAS OVER THERE, SO I JUST WANT TO GET OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY MORE SO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, WE HAVE INITIATIVES THAT THE MAYOR AND COMMISSION HAVE ON THEIR LISTENING ACTION PLAN. YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT ABOUT THAT. WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING TO WHERE YOU ARE IN YOUR COMMUNITY AND YOU'LL BE ASKING THE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS BASED ON WHAT YOUR INTERESTS ARE, NOT WHAT I AM. WE DON'T HAVE THE AGENDA IS GOING TO BE YOUR AGENDA. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. GET INTO THE COMMUNITY, LEARN FROM THE RESIDENCE, THE CITIZENS, THE BUSINESSES. WHAT CAN WE DO TO ADDRESS YOUR ISSUES? WHAT CAN WE DO TO COLLECTIVELY MAKE THE CITY BETTER? BUT I SAY I CAN'T DO ANYTHING BY MYSELF. MY DEPARTMENT HEADS ON DOWN TO THE STAFF LEVEL, THEY ARE DOING THE HARD WORK. THEY'RE IT'S ON THE GROUND. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, PUBLIC WORKS, CODE ENFORCEMENT, BUILDING PERMITS, OF COURSE THE AT PRA. YOU THINK OF OF COURSE FINANCE. INTERNAL YOU DON'T GET TO SEE FINANCE AND I.T.S AND HR BUT THAT'S THE ENGINE THAT DRIVES THE ORGANIZATION, THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE. YOU GET TO SEE THE GUYS ON THE TRUCKS. YOU GET TO SEE THE POLICE OFFICERS RIDING AROUND BUT THERE'S A LOT GOING ON INTERNALLY WITH THE ADMINISTRATOR, CITY CLERK AND CITY ATTORNEY, HOW WE HAVE TO COME TOGETHER AND ADDRESS ISSUES SO WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE LITTLE GEMS IN MY RECAP ON CITY MANAGER SIDE BUT THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE AND SUPPORTING ME AND WHATEVER I CAN DO TO ADDRESS YOUR NEEDS, THE RESIDENCE, LET ME KNOW IF I CAN ADDRESS IT, I WILL ADDRESS IT. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THERE RIGHT THERE WITH US, THEY ARE RESPONSIVE AS WELL BECAUSE IT'S

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CRITICAL THAT COMMUNICATION STAYS STRONG AND ALSO WE GET A POLICE CHIEF ON STAFF WHO WILL JUST KEEP MOVING FORWARD BUT

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> AND I HAD ONE ADDITIONAL -- THIS IS KIND OF AN ASIDE, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS SOMEWHAT TELLING AS TO CITY MANAGER CHESS 'S NEWNESS TO THE POSITION. I GET IT, SIX MONTHS IS A VERY BRIEF AMOUNT OF TIME. HE WAS INVITED TO SPEAK AT ROTARY AND I HEARD HE WAS SPEAKING, AND I WANTED TO ATTEND TO SUPPORT THE CITY MANAGER. THERE WAS A VARIETY OF DEPARTMENT HEADS THERE, TOO. IT WAS A GREAT TURNOUT FROM THE CITY AND MR. CHESS GAVE A VERY COMPELLING PRESENTATION ABOUT ALL THE POSITIVE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE CITY AND KINGS LANDING CAME UP AND THAT'S WHEN THEY STARTED THROWING THE TOMATOES AT HIM. THIS IS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN, THIS AND THAT POINT I'VE BEEN IMMERSED IN THE KINGS LANDING THING UP TO MY EYEBALLS. I UNDERSTAND THE NUANCES OF THIS. PROBABLY BETTER THAN MOST, ET CETERA, UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHERE THIS THING SITS BUT AT THE END OF THE MEETING RICK HAYES LEE WAS THE ONE THAT SAID IT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN, IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE BUILT, I'M GOING TO PUT A $100 BILL ON THE LECTERN, I SAID HE WANTS TO BET AGAINST ME. I BUT THAT AGREEMENT WILL BE ADHERED TO THE LETTER AND IT WILL COME OUT OF THE GROUND THE DATES IT SUPPOSED TO COME OUT OF THE GROUND. I WILL BE THERE WITH SHOVEL IN HAND. HERE IS A $100 BILL. ANYBODY WANT TO MATCH IT?

NOBODY TOOK THE BET. >> THAT WAS ONE OF THE SPEECHES I HEARD THAT HE DID REALLY WELL AND THEN THE NEXT DAY WAS AT CHAMBER AND SO THERE IS A PART OF YOUR CONTRACT, AUTOMATIC

INCREASES, ISN'T THAT RIGHT. >> 5% INCREASE. I KNOW THAT

UNDER .5%, YES. >> ALL RIGHTY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS AUTOMATICALLY AND MS. MORRIS I ASSUME HAS PUT THAT IN THE BUDGET.

>> SHE SAYS YES. >> WE DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON THAT THAT HAPPENS AUTOMATICALLY. THANK YOU MR. CHESS.

>> THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH . >> OKAY. MADAM MAYOR, BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE ADDITIONAL ITEM, I DO BELIEVE WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THE IMPACT FEE MORATORIUM, I DO BELIEVE WE SKIPPED OVER THE PUBLIC HEARING PART.

>> THANK YOU, YOU CAUGHT IT. OKAY. IF YOU WOULD INDULGE US FOR THE AUDIENCE SAKE, I THINK WE DO NEED TO GO BACK AND DO THE

PUBLIC HEARING. >> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. AND ONE WISHING TO IMPRESS THE IMPACT FEE MORATORIUM PLEASE COME FORWARD. I APOLOGIZE TO THE PUBLIC.

>> WE GOT SO HAPPY. >> WE WERE SO CONVINCED.

>> SO HAPPY ABOUT IT WE FORGOT TO BREAK THE PUBLIC UP.

>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. COMMISSIONER CLASS B IS A POLITICAL TYPE. THREE MINUTES PLEASE.

>> WELCOME. >> A MINUTE OR TWO SINCE WE

FORGOT IT. >> IT WILL BE QUICK. MAYORS,

COMMISSIONERS, VERY PLEASED. >> FOR THE RECORD, EVEN THOUGH

WE SAID IT, I'M SORRY. >> JAMES KLAUSNER, CITY OF FT.

PIERCE AND I'M A COUNTY COMMISSIONER. I'M SPEAKING AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN, THE. FIRST OF ALL I JUST WANT TO SAY YOUR MEETING TONIGHT HAS BEEN A JOY TO WATCH. NICE AND QUICK, ACTUALLY. I THINK IT MIGHT STILL BE LIGHT OUTSIDE BUT AS FAR AS IMPACT FEES GO, I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THEM, ESPECIALLY WITHIN THE CRA AREA . RAN FOR CITY COMMISSION ONCE BEFORE AND I WAS AN ADVOCATE OF CONTINUING THE MORATORIUM SO I'M GRATEFUL THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO DO THAT THIS EVENING AND I'M ONLY ONE OF THE FIVE OVER THERE BUT I HAVE BEEN AND WILL CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR THE COUNTY TO ALSO DO A MORATORIUM IN THE CRA AREA. I THINK THAT COULD JUST BE A FORCE MULTIPLIER AND LIKE YOU GUYS WERE SAYING, PUSH YOU OVER THE EDGE TO MAYBE BRING SOMEONE IN SO I'LL BE MENTIONING THAT PROBABLY AT COMMISSIONER COMMENTS TOMORROW EVENING AS

WELL. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

>> IF YOU EVER NEED ANYTHING I'M ALWAYS A PHONE CALL AWAY.

>> WE APPRECIATE IT. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE IMPACT FEE MORATORIUM? ANYONE ELSE? GREAT, THANK YOU. WE'LL BRING

IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR.

>> THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME OUT THERE.

>> MS. HEDGES? >> MADAM MAYOR COMMISSION, JUST BECAUSE WE REOPENED IT I ASKED WE MAKE ANOTHER MOTION JUST TO KEEP IT CLEAN THAT YOUR VOTE IS BASED AFTER ALL PUBLIC COMMENT

ON THE LEGISLATIVE HEARING. >> SO I'M HAPPY, I KIND OF RESTED, I GUESS I FORGOT, I'M SORRY SO WITH THAT I MOVE

APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 25-033. >> THERE IS A MOTION AND SECOND.

WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLL PLEASE?

>> CALLING THE

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MS. COX?

>> WE HAVE THE ADDITION OF ITEM 13 B, WHICH IS THE MEDICAL SERVICES AGREEMENT, WHICH WAS PULLED FROM THE LAST AGENDA.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> SO IN OUR LAST MEETING WE HAD A SCHEDULED TO HEAR ABOUT THE MEDICAL SERVICES AGREEMENT, AND ON SURFACE, ITEMS GET PULLED ALL THE TIME FOR VARIOUS REASONS, AND AT FIRST I DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF THIS.

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I'M IMPLORING, AND I WANT TO BRING THIS UP BECAUSE I CAN'T MEET WITH YOU GUYS IN THE HALLWAY AND TALK ABOUT THIS. WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS PUBLIC FORUM. BUT I DOVE INTO THIS A LITTLE FURTHER AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT A WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY THAT WE MAY HAVE MISSED WITH THIS. AND I THINK THAT I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO HAVE THOSE IN DEPTH DISCUSSIONS, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, WITH THE CITY MANAGER, FINANCE, OUR LEGAL TEAM, TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY WAS THIS PULLED? WE COULD'VE HAD DISCUSSION AND MAYBE IRONED OUT SOME THINGS BUT WHAT I'VE LEARNED ABOUT THIS IS THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY COST SOMETIMES WHEN YOU DELAY MAKING DECISIONS. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER. IF YOU MAKE A DECISION AND YOU DON'T MAKE A DECISION AT THAT POINT, WHEN IT COMES BACK AROUND TO MAKE A DECISION, IT'S TOO LATE, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, BECAUSE AS I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MR. CHESS, WHICH FURTHER LEND ITSELF TO MS. MORRIS, SHE WAS AN AGENT BROKERING THIS DEAL THAT WE HAD DONE BEFORE. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING NEW. WE'VE HAD THIS CONTRACT WHICH ALLOWS OUR CITY EMPLOYEES TO TAKE THEIR NONEMERGENCY CASES TO A WALK IN CLINIC TO GET WELL CARE AND NOT UTILIZE THE EMERGENCY ROOM FOR THAT, AND THE FP DID HELP, AND EVERYBODY USES FP, UA USES IT, THE COUNTY USES IT, ET CETERA, AND IT SAVES US SO WE PAY THIS POT OF MONEY. OUR PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR THE CITY CAN GO HERE AND IT DOESN'T, IMPORTANTLY, IMPACT OUR CLAIM. SO IF YOU GO TO THAT EMERGENCY ROOM FOR SOMETHING, MAYBE A HIGH FEVER OR MAYBE A CUT THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE HEAVY SUTURING BUT IT REQUIRES SOME MEDICAL ATTENTION, THAT'S A CLAIM AGAINST YOUR INSURANCE POLICY, AND THEN WE HAVE TO REVISIT THAT. AND SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THIS MATTER. AS I LEARNED THIS I UNDERSTAND INSURANCE, I UNDERSTAND CLAIMS, I UNDERSTAND ALSO SOME ASPECTS OF LEGAL BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS WAS PULLED.

FURTHERMORE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD GET THIS LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE WERE GOING TO GET THE PRICE, I THINK IT WAS ON THE AGENDA FOR $175,000, BUT I THINK NOW IN TALKINGTO 80 IF WE CAN SALVAGE A RELATIONSHIP THAT IS TEDIOUS AT THIS POINT, TENUOUS AT THIS POINT WITH THE PROVIDER, WE MIGHT HAVE TO END UP PAYING MORE IF WE CAN GET IT SO I'M CONCERNED AND SO MR. CHESS , MY ATTORNEY, THE CITY CLERK, THOSE ARE THE THREE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS I CAN TALK TO HEAR. THIS RESIDES SOMEWHERE BETWEEN TWO OF MY CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS, BETWEEN MY ATTORNEY AND MY CITY MANAGER, AND I'M CONCERNED WITH WHAT I'VE LEARNED ON WHY THIS DOESN'T COME BEFORE US LAST TIME, AND WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, AND HOW THIS MAY LEAD TO FURTHER DISCUSSIONS WHICH CAN ALSO INCREASE COSTS TO THE CITY OF

FT. PIERCE. >> I CAN GIVE YOU INFORMATION.

I'M LOOKING FOR THE ITEM THAT WAS PULLED. IN THIS, A PROCESS THAT WAS INVOLVED WITH THIS, WE INITIALLY HAD A MEDICAL SERVICES COMPANY CALLED MD NOW AND THEY CANCELED THE AGREEMENT EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 3RD, 2025. WE HAD SUBMITTED A NEW AGREEMENT WITH -- I FORGET WHAT IT'S CALLED, WITH THE FT. PIERCE MEDICAL SERVICES, IT'S AN URGENT CARE CENTER AND WE SUBMITTED IT AS A PIGGYBACK BUT ACTUALLY WE DID NOT HAVE TO DO A PIGGYBACK. BUT WE SUBMITTED AS A PIGGYBACK THE AGREEMENT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WITHOUT THE PIGGYBACK DOCUMENT. NATURALLY, WHAT'S THE PIGGYBACK DOCUMENT SAYING YOU CAN'T SUBMIT IT LIKE THIS SO WHAT HAPPENED WHEN IT WAS RETURNED TO US, IT HAD MOCKUPS ON THE ORIGINAL PROVIDED TO US, THE URGENT CARE CENTER. BUT THEIR CONTENTION WAS THAT WE CANNOT CHANGE THE VERBIAGE IN THE AGREEMENT. SO WHEN WE SUBMITTED THE DOCUMENT BACK WE REALIZED THAT BECAUSE IT WAS MEDICAL SERVICES, WE DID NOT REQUIRE PIGGYBAK DIRECTLY WITH THE COMPANY SO WE RESUBMITTED IT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WITH THE EXPLANATION IT HAS TO BE IN THE SAME LANGUAGE. AT THAT TIME IT WAS MOCKED UP AGAIN AND IT WAS RETURNED TO US BUT WE DIDN'T TAKE IT TO THE VENDOR A SECOND TIME BECAUSE THEY TOLD US THE FIRST TIME AROUND THEY'RE EY NOT GOING TO ACCEPT ANY CHANGES.

SO AT THAT TIME THIS WAS PULLED FROM THE AGENDA BECAUSE IT HAD PIGGYBACK LANGUAGE IN THE AGENDA ITEM ALTHOUGH IT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED AS A PIGGYBACK. BUT THEN WHEN WE REALIZED IT DID NOT GET PIGGYBACK WE STILL HAD CHANGES TO THE AGREEMENT WHICH THE VENDOR WOULDN'T ACCEPT. BUT SUBSEQUENT TO THAT DATE MS. MORRIS HAS SPOKEN TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE ORGANIZATION SO

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THEY ARE WILLING TO REVISIT IT WITH US BUT THAT STANDARD LANGUAGE, BUT THE CAVEAT THAT IT'S GOING TO BE MORE THAN WHAT THEY INITIALLY ALLOWED US TO DO A WEEK OR TWO AGO. SO THAT'S JUST IN A NUTSHELL FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND AS I SAID, WE CANNOT TAKE THAT AGREEMENT BACK TO THE URGENT CARE PROVIDER WITH ANY LANGUAGE CHANGES AND IT'S THE SAME LANGUAGE IN THAT YOU A AGREEMENT, THE SAME AGREEMENT THE COUNTY HAS AS WELL. THERE IS FROM THE LAYMAN'S PERSPECTIVE, I FEEL THAT THE AGREEMENT SHOULD BE THE SAME AS THE FBO A AND THE COUNTY, THE SAME SERVICES JUST

WITH A DIFFERENT AGENCY. >> MADAM MAYOR ?

>> COMMISSION, JUST A SLIGHT CLARIFICATION. THE FIRST TIME THIS RLS CAME THROUGH TO OUR OFFICE, IT DID NOT COME THROUGH AS A PIGGYBACK. IT CAME THROUGH JUST AS A STRAIGHT AGREEMENT. IT WAS REVIEWED BY AN ATTORNEY IN MY OFFICE AND PROVIDED BACK WITHIN IT LOOKS LIKE 48 HOURS OF IT BEING RECEIVED BY OUR OFFICE, WITH HER RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHAT CHANGES NEEDED TO BE MADE, SOME OF WHICH ARE STATUTORILY REQUIRED UNDER FLORIDA STATE STATUTE. IT WAS THEN SHE WAS THEN INFORMED BY FINANCE THAT THEY MEANT TO PIGGYBACK THIS SO IT WAS THEN SENT THROUGH WITH, SORRY, IT WAS THEN A DATED WITH PIGGYBACK BACK DOCUMENTS. IT WAS NOT ACTUALLY PROPERLY RESUBMITTED. IT'S STILL SITTING WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT IN THE ROUTING PROCESS. IN REVIEWING THE PIGGYBACK, THERE WAS NO COMPETITIVE PROCUREMENT BY THE FPU A WHO THEY WERE ATTEMPTING TO PIGGYBACK SO YOU CAN'T PIGGYBACK SOMETHING THAT HASN'T BEEN COMPETITIVELY PROCURED. SO MR. CHESS AND I HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT AND THE ISSUES WITH THE PIGGYBACK, AND THEN IT WAS LEFT WITH AN UNDERSTANDING OF MS. MORRIS WAS GOING TO CONTACT THEM . THIS IS THE FIRST I'VE HEARD OF THE UPDATED CONVERSATION. I ALSO OFFERED THAT IF THEIR ATTORNEYS WANTED TO REACH OUT TO MY OFFICE, I'D BE HAPPY TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT THE CONCERNS MY OFFICE HAD WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS INCLUDED. THE LANGUAGE FROM THE FPU A I THINK WAS FROM A VERY OLD CONTRACT . I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT --, SORRY, LET ME SCROLL TO THE BOTTOM, IT'S FROM 2012 SO OBVIOUSLY IT HAS TO BE REVIEWED FOR LEGAL UPDATES IN

THE LAW SINCE THEN. >> I GOT A -- I DON'T KNOW WHY IT WAS COLD AND TO DISCUSS IT, I'M GLAD WE ARE DISCUSSING IT NOW, HOWEVER, I THINK THIS NEEDS TO BE PUT ON ANOTHER AGENDA, SO ONE, THE PUBLIC CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON INSTEAD OF JUST HEARING IT TONIGHT, READING IT AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT EVERYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT BUT TWO, I JUST NEED SOME CLARIFICATION. IN CONTRACTS LIKE THIS, IF IT'S MY UP FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THE MANAGER'S OFFICE, THOSE ARE OPINIONS FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND THEY BRING IT TO US WITH THEIR OPINIONS, AND WE MAKE THE FINAL DECISION. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THIS STUFF WORKS. SO AGAIN WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE STUFF IS GOING ON BETWEEN CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS AND WE ARE NOT HEARING ABOUT IT, AND IT COULD COST THE CITY MONEY. I DON'T KNOW YET AND I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING IF THE COUNTY IS USING THE LANGUAGE, FPUA IS USING THE LANGUAGE , YOU KNOW, AND IT'S SAVING MONEY FOR THE CITY, WHAT AM I MISSING BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE FPUA ATTORNEY AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY YOU KNOW ARE NOT GOING TO ALLOW SOMETHING TO HAPPEN THAT YOU KNOW IT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN SO I WOULD REALLY SUGGEST THAT WE PUT THIS BACK ON THE AGENDA AND GIVE THE PUBLIC THE PROPER NOTICE OF REVIEWING SO WE CAN DISCUSS THIS AND IN THE MEANTIME, WHATEVER IS GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES WITH THIS DR.'S OFFICE OR WHATEVER WE CAN DO, IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT TO HELP OUR EMPLOYEES AND SAY SAVE THE CITY AND TAXPAYERS MONEY, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO BUT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP BUT I THINK IT'S SOME MORE DETAIL THAN WHAT I'M HEARING NOW, THEN I THINK IT'S DOING WITH THIS WHOLE TRASH

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THE CITY. I THINK WE NEED TO BRING THIS BACK UP. I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THE NOTICE FOR THIS, OUR NEXT MEETING, WHENEVER OUR NEXT

MEETING. >> IT CAN GO IN THE NEXT

MEETING. >> I THINK WE NEED TO BRING THIS UP AND WE NEED TO DISCUSS IT WITH EVERYTHING ATTACHED, WHATEVER, SO TRANSPARENCY, AND WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO -- WE ALREADY KNOW WE COULD BE FACING SOME BUDGET CONSTRAINTS NEXT YEAR WITH WHATEVER TALLAHASSEE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SO IF WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE GOT TO DO TO TRY TO SAVE TAXPAYER MONEY AND TRY TO SAVE US PAYING MORE MONEY TO AN INSURANCE COMPANY, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO READ IT AND SEE IT AND HAVE MY TWO CENTS TO SAY WHEN IT COMES IN FRONT OF US SO I'M HAPPY YOU BROUGHT IT UP. I'M HAPPY YOU BROUGHT IT UP AND TO OUR ATTENTION BECAUSE I NEED TO GO BACK AND REVIEW WHAT I READ BEFORE BECAUSE I DID READ THE AGENDA EVEN THOUGH I WASN'T HERE, TO REVIEW AND SEE WHAT'S WHAT, BUT I GUESS I'LL BE TALKING TO THE CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY, CITY CLERK AND MS. MORRISON THIS WEEK AS FAR AS THIS WEEK TO SEE WHAT'S WHAT SO I CAN PUT MY HEAD AROUND IT, TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED BECAUSE I WOULD HATE TO LOSE A GOOD DEAL IF WE CAN'T SO THAT'S HOW I FEEL ON THIS. THAT WOULD BE MY

SUGGESTION. >> THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. I KNOW WE ALL MEET WITH CITY STAFF DURING OUR WEEKLIES. I'M JUST ENCOURAGED THAT YOU HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. I'VE SET IT OUT IN THE PUBLIC SO THERE IS NO VIOLATION OF SUNSHINE. THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT UP SO AT THAT POINT I'M GOING TO DO THAT SAME THING THIS WEEK AND HAVE MY MEETINGS AND REVIEW DOCUMENTS, AND I'M GOING TO LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE MARKUPS, EXACTLY WHAT WAS GOING ON THERE, AND REALLY GET AN UNDERSTANDING, AND I WOULD GO PUBLIC TO SAY MR. CHESS, I'M GOING TO INVITE MS. MARX TO BE A PART OF MY MEETING DURING THAT SECTION OF OUR MEETING, OKAY? SO I'M GOOD AT THIS POINT. MADAME MAYOR, I'M

GOOD. >> COMMISSIONER BRODRICK, DO YOU

HAVE ANY INPUT? >> CANDIDLY I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS ISSUE SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING A DEEP DIVE INTO IT ON WEDNESDAY. HOWEVER, I'M GOING TO SAY RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW, FOR ALL OF US UP HERE, I'M PROBABLY CONSUMED THE MOST BENEFITS FROM THE CITY'S HEALTH PLAN, OKAY? TWO SURGERIES, TWO MASSIVE SURGERIES AS I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE.

HAVING HAD SAID THAT, ANY MEDICAL BENEFIT THAT WE CAN PROVIDE TO THE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THIS AN EASIER PROCESS FOR THEM, I COMPLETELY ADVOCATE THAT. SO COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, LOOK, WE'LL CLAW IT BACK, WE'LL GO BACK AND HAMMER ON IT AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT DEAL BACK AGAIN I DON'T CARE WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE EVERY EFFORT THAT WE CAN TO DO SO AND IF THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS CONCERNS, FIND OUT WHAT THESE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS HAVE DONE TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS BUT CLEARLY THE MEDICAL PACKAGE THAT THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE OFFERS IS PHENOMENALLY GOOD. IT'S JUST NOT GOOD OR BETTER. IT IS PHENOMENALLY GOOD AND ANY BENEFIT THAT WE CAN PROVIDE A CITY EMPLOYEE IN THAT VEIN I COMPLETELY SUPPORT SO I'M WITH THE REST OF YOU.

LET'S DRILL INTO IT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO GET THIS FIXED AND GET THIS BENEFIT TO OUR EMPLOYEES.

>> WE'LL ALL HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR STAFF. WE DON'T NEED ANY ACTION ON THIS AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT.

[14. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>> IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF ACTION THIS WEEK.

>> WE'LL MOVE ON. >> NEXT ITEM IS COMMENTS FROM

THE PUBLIC. >> THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST? MR. MET SAMUEL IS COMING TO THE PODIUM.

>> GOOD EVENING MADAME MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. I'M MATTHEW SAMUEL. I'M WITH THE FOUR YEARS LIONS CLUB SO WE NEED TO HAVE

YOU AT ONE OF OUR MEETINGS . >> I WOULD LIKE THAT, THANK YOU.

>> I THINK YOU HAVE A VERY STRONG BOARD HERE. WE ARE GOING TO SEE THINGS CHANGE IN FORT PIERCE FOR THE GOOD SO I'M GLAD

TO HAVE YOU HERE. >> YES OR.

>> I HAVE THREE THING. I GOT TO TALK PRETTY QUICK HERE. FIRST THING IS THE HAVARD FENWAY PARK. THE LIONS HAVE DONATED SOME MONEY TO HAVE THE EXERCISE PLACE PUT UP OVER THERE AND THEY ALSO NEED SOME GARBAGE SCANS OVER THERE. I GO OVER THERE AND LOOK AT THE PLACE AND I SEE NO GARBAGE CANS THERE SO I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME GARBAGE CANS OVER THERE TO KEEP IT A LITTLE CLEANER. ALSO I'M ON THE BOARD WITH THE HIGHWAYMAN MUSEUM AND IT'S COMING ALONG VERY WELL. I JUST DON'T LIKE ALL THESE

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CHANGES THAT WE ARE GETTING AND IT'S BEEN THREE YEARS RIGHT NOW SINCE THAT CONTRACT WAS SIGNED BUT WE WANTED TO BE RIGHT WHEN IT GETS DONE SO IT'S GOT TO BE A REALLY NICE PLACE WHEN IT ALL COMES UP. ALSO LITTLE JIM BRIDGE OVER THERE, BAIT AND TACKLE SHOP, THEY HAD ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO THE CITY MADE IT A HISTORIC SITE AND -- WHICH IS, WITH THE NAVY SEALS, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IF SOMEBODY GOES IN THERE AND WANTS TO CHANGE IT TO BUILD A CONDO OR SOMETHING THERE, THEY CAN. THAT'S HISTORY OF FT.

PIERCE. WE NEED TO KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS. DON IS DOING A GREAT JOB OVER THERE, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WHEN WE ARE GETTING ALL THAT RAIN THERE WAS A FOOT OF WATER OVER THERE IN THE PARKING LOT AND EVERYTHING. GUESS WHAT -- THERE WAS PROBABLY 200 PEOPLE OVER THERE, ENJOYING THEMSELVES AT LITTLE JIM BRIDGE SO THAT'S A BIG THING IN FT. PIERCE IS TO KEEP LITTLE JIM THERE. YOU WANT TO GO OVER THERE AND HAVE LUNCH WITH THE, IT'S ON ME, AND WHATEVER I CAN DO TO HELP YOU, I WORK WITH ALL THESE COMMISSIONERS HERE SO I'M READY TO WORK WITH YOU.

>> YOU PICKING UP THE BAR TAB, TOO?

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, MATT. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WHO WOULD LIKE

TO GO NEXT? >> GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I'M LASHANDA FLOYD BELL. MADAME MAYOR, COMMISSION, AND CITY MANAGER, ON BEHALF OF OF THE ZORA NEALE HURSTON FLORIDA EDUCATION FOUNDATION, WE'D LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND AN INVITATION TO YOU ALL. WE WILL BE HAVING OUR FIRST OF AN ANNUAL BUSINESS MIXER AT ONE OF THE NEWEST ESTABLISHMENTS IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, WHICH IS LOCATED AT 901 AVENUE D. THIS WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE COMMISSION TO MEET WITH OUR NEW PRESIDENT OF THE ZORA NEALE HURSTON FLORIDA EDUCATION FOUNDATION. I KNOW PERSONALLY THAT THE COMMISSION AND THE CITY HAVE SUPPORTED THIS EVENT WHEN WE HAVE OUR ANNUAL FESTIVAL SO THIS BUSINESS NETWORK AND MIXER IS SORT OF A KICKOFF TO OUR FESTIVAL THAT WILL BE COMING AT THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR. SO AGAIN WE'D LIKE TO EXTEND THIS INVITATION, OCTOBER 24TH, COMING THIS COMING FRIDAY, 6:00 P.M. AT THE BLUE CLARINET. AGAIN, 901 AVENUE D IN THE CITY OF FT.

PIERCE. THANK YOU AND THIS IS A FREE EVENT TO THE COMMUNITY.

>> WHERE IS THAT ON AVENUE D? WHAT'S THE CROSS STREET THERE?

AVENUE D AND NINTH STREET. >> COULD YOU EMAIL ME THAT INFORMATION AND I'LL GET IT TO HER?

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WHO ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK?

>> GOOD EVENING MADAME MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, CITY MANAGER.

I'M 901 AVENUE D. >> WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR

ME PLEASE? >> MARK BENJAMIN. SOMETHING I WANTED TO SAY BEFORE I INTRODUCE BLUE CLARINET, I DIDN'T COME WITH THIS MINDSET BUT HEARING EVERYTHING, I'M A NEWBIE, I'M FROM OUT OF TOWN, ST. LUCIE WEST BUT I ORIGINALLY CAME FROM NEW YORK AND SOMETHING I WAS HOPING TO INSTILL IN FELLOW EMPLOYEES AND COWORKERS AND PEOPLE I WORK WITH, SAYING SOMETHING YOU BROUGHT UP IN REGARDS TO YOU CAN'T DO THINGS ALONE. I HAD SOMETHING I CREATED, IT'S CALLED NO MAN IS AN ISLAND. TO ACHIEVE SUCCESS YOU MUST BE WISE. TO BE WISE YOU MUST HAVE UNDERSTANDING. TO UNDERSTAND, YOU MUST BE WILLING TO LEARN, AND THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN LEARN IS IF YOU LISTEN, IF YOU PARTAKE IN ROLLING UP YOUR SLEEVES AND BEING A PART OF SOMETHING THAT'S GREATER THAN YOU. SO HEARING FROM EVERYBODY, I MEAN I'M GLAD, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME COMING AND I'M GLAD TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY AND TO HEAR THEIR OPINIONS, AND TO GET INTO THEIR MINDSET OF WANTING TO GET MORE, WANTING TO DO MORE FOR FORT PIERCE. THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY I CAME TO FT.

PIERCE, KNOWING WHERE AVENUE D WAS AND KNOWING WHERE IT'S

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GOING, MY FRIEND, HE'S DECEASED NOW, HE HAD TOLD ME TO COME AND PARTAKE IN TAKING OVER OKAY, THIS WAS THREE YEARS PAST AND THEN SOMETHING -- THINGS HAPPEN. ALWAYS PUT GOD IN FRONT AND I WAS ABLE TO RELOCATE MY COMPANY. I WORK IN WEST PALM AND THE OPPORTUNITY WAS STILL THERE . THEY SAID HEY, COME AND SEE THE PLACE. I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE PLACE BECAUSE I KNEW WHAT AVENUE D WAS. VERY TRANSPARENT.

AND TO SEE THE CHANGES AND TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO OCCUR, I SAID I'VE GOT TO BE A PART OF IT. ONE OF MY MAIN THINGS WAS OPEN UP THE CLARINET. THAT'S ONE OF TWO THINGS I WANT TO DO BUT I'LL KEEP THE SECOND ONE SECRET FOR NOW. THE FIRST ONE IS BASICALLY TO OPEN UP, BRING MUSIC, BRING AN ATMOSPHERE OF JOY, FAMILY, TO THE COMMUNITY. IT'S NOT ONLY GOING DOWNTOWN BUT IT'S START DEVELOPING EVERYTHING FROM U.S. 1 GOING DOWN AND I WANTED TO BE A PART OF THAT, AND TO START THAT. BLUE CLARINET IS HERE. BLUE CLARINET IS HERE. WE HAVE MUSIC, LIVE MUSIC. WE HAVE CARIBBEAN, ASIAN, ITALIAN FUSION RESTAURANT AND EVERY SUNDAY WE HAVE A LIVE BAND. WE HAVE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT STUFF THAT'S GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE SO I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AND SAY I'M HERE TO BE A PART OF FORT PIERCE, I'M HERE TO HELP YOU DEVELOP, ESPECIALLY MY GOAL IS

REVITALIZING AVENUE D. >> WELCOME TO FOR YEARS.

>> THANK YOU. >> WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO NEXT?

>> FOR THE RECORD, CHRIS HIGGINS, TO A AVENUE A, MADAME MAYOR, COUNCILMAN, HOW ARE YOU GUYS DOING TONIGHT? MR. CHESS, WELCOME. I'M GLAD YOU'RE STICKING AROUND FOR 6 MORE MONTHS. YOU'VE MADE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT TO THIS POINT IN TIME AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE FUTURE WITH YOU. I HAVE JUST A SIMPLE REQUEST REGARDING THIS MEDIA OUTCRY THAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE LITTLE JIM BRIDGE TAKING PLACE. I'M JUST ASKING FOR SOMEONE WITHIN THE CITY TO PLEASE COME FORWARD WITH SOME TRANSPARENCY TO THE PUBLIC OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE PROPERTY. I'VE HEARD THAT THERE'S A NUCLEAR SUBMARINE SITE TO BE DEVELOPED THERE ALL THE WAY, TOO, I DON'T EVEN KNOW, DATA MINING AFTER THAT, I HAVE NO IDEA BUT ULTIMATELY IF THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT THE PROPERTY ITSELF AND HISTORICAL PRESERVATION, IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE, IT'S NOT GOING TO GO AWAY, IT'S JUST THE FACT THAT THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE LOOKING TO OPERATE THE SPACE AND IT'S NO ILL WILL UPON WHO'S THERE NOW.

FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD, THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB FOR HOW LONG THEY'VE BEEN THERE BY THE GENTLEMAN IN THE CHAIR A FEW MINUTES AGO. I JUST WISH WE COULD LET THE PUBLIC KNOW WHAT IS RFP AND WHAT IT ENTAILS, JUST TO LET THEM KNOW BECAUSE I'M SURE YOU GUYS ARE GETTING AMBUSHED WITH EMAILS FROM ALL PARTS OF THE WORLD SO THANK YOU GUYS FOR DOING WHAT YOU DO SO

FAR AND HAVE A GREAT NIGHT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO NEXT? WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO NEXT?

>> I'M GOING TO SIT DOWN FOR. >> PLEASE, YOU CAN ALWAYS SIT

DOWN. >> MY TIME HASN'T STARTED, I PREFER NOT TO BUT JUST ON A SIDE NOTE, IT'S THE LIGHTS AND YOU CAN SEE AND I PREFER NOT TO DRAW ANY ATTENTION TO IT BUT IT'S FRUSTRATING. ANYHOW, CHRIS EINSTEIN, 207 ORANGE AVENUE, TO HIGHLIGHT OFF WHAT CHRIS WAS JUST SPEAKING ABOUT THAT THIS HAS BEEN AN UNFAIR PROCESS AND IT DOES NEED TO BE -- IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THE CITY COULD EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON AND THAT WE ARE NOT TRYING TO TAKE THIS AWAY, AND ALSO THAT I WAS THE PROPOSER FOR THE LITTLE JIM RFP AND SINCE THE LAST RFP WAS CANCELED WE STATED THERE WERE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THE RFP, WE PROTESTED THE BID PROCESS AND DURING THE PROTEST PROCESS I WAS BANNED, FORBIDDEN FROM TALKING TO CITY STAFF DUE TO AN EXCERPT OF AN EMAIL I SENT WHICH WAS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.

ON AUGUST 12, AFTER NOT RECEIVING RESPONSES TO OUR BID PROTEST FOR THE RFP FOR LITTLE GEMS I EMAILED MS. CARTER THE FOLLOWING, SO I'M ASKING TO GIVE US THIS OPPORTUNITY, OTHERWISE THIS WILL END UP IN COURT AS WELL AS CONTACTING THE ETHICS BOARD, THAT THIS IS NOT MEANING TO BE THREATENING BUT IT'S JUST A REALITY IF WE ARE NOT GIVEN THIS OPPORTUNITY, AND THAT WAS REFERRING TO DEFINING WHAT DAYS WERE , BUSINESS OR CALENDAR DAYS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT CLEARLY DEFINED IN THE CODE AND FUNNY NOW THAT THE RFP WAS CANCELED AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IT WAS CANCELED FOR SEVERAL REASONS INCLUDED IN OUR PROTEST YET I'M STILL BAND AND IT'S AFFECTING US FROM DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY. WE CANNOT CONDUCT BUSINESS AS

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APPLICATIONS FOR THE FPUA FACADE GRANT WHERE DENIAL, I'LL DISCUSS THIS MORE IN DEPTH AT TOMORROW NIGHT'S MEETING. I COULD NOT CALL IN FOR BUILDING INSPECTIONS. I ACTUALLY HAD TO HAVE SOMEONE ELSE CALL THEM IN AND THEN WE HAD TO WAIT FOR APPROVAL OF CLARIFICATION IF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR WAS EVEN ALLOWED TO COME TO TWO OF OUR PROPERTIES. THE CITY ATTORNEY WOULD NOT LET US MEET WITH THE PLANNING DIRECTOR REGARDING THE DEVELOPING OF ONE OF OUR PROPERTIES ON INDIAN RIVER DRIVE WITHOUT HER BEING PRESENT, WHICH WAS AN ISSUE DUE TO THE CODE DEVELOPER AND US BEING UNCOMFORTABLE WITH MRS. HEDGES BEING PRESENT AFTER HER INTERNET ACTION WITH MR. FREEMAN AT A RECENT COMMISSIONERS MEETING. WE FELT WE COULD NOT TALK OPENLY AND DID NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MEETING. THERE WERE SEVERAL OTHER ISSUES WE HAVE BEEN FACING THAT WE CANNOT MOVE FORWARD DUE TO THIS BAN. ALL OF THESE WERE ATTEMPTS TO SILENCE ME SINCE WE IDENTIFIED MANY OF THE ISSUES AND CONFLICTS WITH THE RFP, WHICH ARE LISTED IN THE 12 PAGE PROTEST , AND I HOPE YOU WILL REVERSE THIS BANNING SINCE OUR PROTEST WAS VALID AND SEEMS TO BE VIOLATING OUR CIVIL RIGHTS. THERE ARE MANY OTHER ISSUES WE HAD WITH RFP THAT WE WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT WITH ALL OF YOU TO DISCUSS SO THE NEXT ROUND IS FAIR AND LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. WE ALSO WANTED TO DISCUSS THE ISSUES WITH THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE PROCUREMENT AND BID PROTEST PROCESS BECAUSE WHAT WAS PROPOSED THE CITY ATTORNEY AT THE PUBLIC MEETING WAS VERY ONE-SIDED AND LIMITED. THEY WERE MAKING IT ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR A FAIR BIT PROTEST PROCESS. TRANSPARENCY IS A TERM YOU ALL OF TO USE BECAUSE PROPOSED CHANGES ARE ANYTHING BUT TRANSPARENT. I'D LIKE TO ENLIGHTEN YOU ON SOME OF THE CHANGES ARE BEING PROPOSED SO YOU HAVE A FULL STORY ON ANY ADOPTED CHANGES. OUR OTHER COUPLE ISSUES WITH THE BID PROTEST. WHY WAS THIS RFP JUST NOW CANCELED? WE WENT ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE EVALUATION PROCESS AND WE SINCE DAY ONE OF

OUR EMAIL -- >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. YOUR TIME

IS UP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> CHRIS CONNER, 207 ORANGE AVENUE. THIS RFP PROCESS HAS JUST BEEN A COLOSSAL SHIFT SANDWICH. I THINK MR. BRODRICK REFERRED TO AND THAT'S JUST THE BEGINNING. I DON'T KNOW WHO ESTABLISHED OR APPROVED IT TO BE GAVE. THERE WERE SEVERAL CHANGES THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. I THINK THERE WERE FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT SURVEYS SUBMITTED . I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING AND I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HOLD ACCOUNTABLE FOR IT, BUT IF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE APPROVED IT TO GO OUT THE WAY IT DID AND THE WAY IT HELD, AND NOW YOU'RE CANCELING IT, WHY IS THE RFP BEING CANCELED NOW? WHY DO THEY GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE EVALUATION PROCESS AND THE WORD GOT OUT THAT THE CURRENT LEASEHOLDER WAS THE NOT THE HIGH SCORE AND THE RFP WAS CANCELED. LOOK AT OUR EMAILS FROM OUR FIRST RFP PUBLISHED STATING THAT ALL THE ISSUES NOT TO MENTION OUR BID PROTEST. TAXPAYERS MONEY NOW HAS BEEN SPENT ON TWO RFPS AND LEASEHOLDERS COST AND TAXPAYERS BENEFIT FROM OUR MONEY . THIS IS THE SECOND RFP FOR THIS LEASE.

THE FIRST ONE IS CANCELED AND NOW THE SECOND ONE IS CANCELED.

ARE WE GOING TO WIN WITH THE THIRD ONE OR IS IT STRIKE THREE

YOU'RE OUT? >> WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO NEXT?

WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO NEXT? >> RICK REED, 2625 SOUTH U.S. 1 OR SWEETIES DINER. IT WAS SAID EARLIER TONIGHT IN THE REVIEW OF MR. CHESS , AND I'M HAPPY, THAT THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE AS IT WAS EXPLAINED TO YOU IS A BOTTOMLESS PIT OF PROBLEMS. THAT WAS SAID BY COMMISSIONER BRODRICK. WELL THEN WE'VE HEARD PEOPLE UP HERE TONIGHT ABOUT THE LITTLE JIM BRIDGE AND THE RFPS. DISAPPEARED THE OTHER DAY ON THE MAHER'S NEPHEW, CHARLIE WILTON'S FACEBOOK PAGE, AND IT WAS SENT TO ME. DEAR CITY MANAGER CHESS, THIS LETTER WILL CONFIRM OUR DISCUSSION HAD LAST WEDNESDAY ON 10/8/25 WHERE WE DISCUSSED THE STATUS OF THE LITTLE JIM RFP. IT WAS DISCUSSED IN DETAIL THAT THE CURRENT RFP PROCESS WOULD BE SCRAPPED AND TERMINATED AND REVISED AND UPDATED AND THE RFP WOULD BE PUT OUT FOR CIRCULATION FOR RESPONDENT TO REVIEW. THIS LETTER SHALL CONFIRM THAT NO DECISION REGARDING OPERATION WITH LITTLE JIM CAN OR WOULD BE MADE BY CITY OF FT. PIERCE STAFF AND THAT ALL DECISIONS REGARDING LITTLE JIM SHALL BE MADE BY A VOTE OF THE COMMISSION SOLELY. SINCERELY, MICHAEL BRODRICK, CITY. WHO IS RUNNING THIS PLACE? A WEEK AGO, TWO WEEKS AGO THERE WAS A MEETING HELD AT ONE OF THE POLITICAL PARTIES IN WHICH I'M NOT INVOLVED AND THIS SAME COMMISSIONER WENT UP AND TOLD PEOPLE THAT I WAS COLLABORATING WITH KEN MASCARA AND THAT I WAS GOING TO, WITH KEN, WAS GOING TO ARRANGE TO HAVE KEN AS OUR NEXT

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POLICE CHIEF, FORMER CHAIR OF MASCARA WAS QUITE CLEAR IN SENDING A THING OUT STATING THAT HE HAS SEVEN GRANDCHILDREN, HE LOVES HIS RETIREMENT, HE AIN'T GOING BACK TO WORK, AND GOD BLESS HIM. HE'S A GOOD MAN. INTERIM COMMISSIONER BRODRICK AND HIS PICK TO JOIN ON THE COMMISSION REPRESENTING DISTRICT 2, JENNY BETH GELINAS, BRODRICK HAS BEEN A REBEL ON THE FORT PIERCE COMMISSION, BRODRICK HAS SIGNALED A GROUP OF PROPOSALS RESULTING IN MASSIVE CHANGES IN THE WAY THE CITY OPERATES IN FORT PIERCE. REALLY? WHAT HAS CHANGED? I WOULDN'T CALL IT A REBEL. I'D CALL IT AN OBNOXIOUS BUFFOON. YOU KNOW? AND IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE EMPLOYEES. IT'S NOT FAIR . IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE TAXPAYERS. AND BY THE WAY, CHRIS, I WAS TRESPASSED OUT OF CITY HALL BY OUR FORMER CITY MANAGER, NICK MIMS, AT THE DIRECTION OF THE MAYOR. HOW DID THAT WORK OUT FOR HIM? SO YOU KNOW, I COMMEND A COUPLE OF Y'ALL. Y'ALL ARE DOING GOOD.

YOU'RE TRYING AND GOD WORKS IN STRANGE WAYS. 2-2 VOTE IS THE ONLY THING THAT GOT US THIS GENTLEMAN AND HAS KEPT HIM. SIR, WHAT THE OTHER COMMISSIONER SAID, PLEASE MOVE WHILE YOU CAN.

THIS CITY NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP. THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD EMPLOYEES THAT WORK HERE. WE GOT A POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT IS NEEDING HELP AND ASSISTANCE, AND SPEND THE MONEY TO HIRE THE VERY BEST. BEFORE -- IF FT. PIERCE WAS ANYMORE INBRED IT WOULD BE A

SANDWICH. >> THANK YOU, SIR. WHO'S NEXT? WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO NEXT? WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO NEXT?

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, WELCOME.

>> GOOD EVENING MA'AM, MADAME MAYOR, CITY COMMISSIONERS, MR. CHESS, WANT TO SAY CONGRATS AND THANK YOU FOR BELIEVING IN FORT PIERCE, ABSOLUTELY. WE APPRECIATE YOU AS RESIDENTS OF OUR GREAT CITY, SO WE APPRECIATE THAT. I'D ALSO --

>> THANK YOU, FOR THE RECORD, SIR.

>> JERMAINE JONES. >> I HAVE TO REMIND EVERYBODY.

>> BACK TO WHY I WAS HERE. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING THE IMPACT THE MORATORIUM AND I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER CLASS BEFORE COMING HERE AND TALKING ABOUT IT ALSO.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE REFERENCE AND WHILE I'M WEARING MY HAT TONIGHT, I WORK WITH JACQUELINE AND SONS CONSTRUCTION AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS BUSINESS HAS BEEN IN FT. PIERCE AND ST.

LUCIE COUNTY FOR 85 YEARS THIS YEAR AND SO WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF PROJECTS. WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF GROWTH. WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES IN OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY. AND IT'S JUST REALLY MUCH IN HONOR TO CONTINUE TO SERVE THE CITY. MS. HARNAGE DID MENTION TONIGHT THE HOLY FAMILY VET CLINIC. THAT IS ONE OF OUR PROJECTS RIGHT HERE AT AVENUE D AND U.S. ONE. WE WERE ABLE TO BUILD THE FAST CHICKEN RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, VERY MUCH IN HONOR TO BUILD THAT PROJECT, SAINT ANASTASIA CATHOLIC CHURCH AND THE EXPANSION THAT HAPPENED THERE. JUST A BREATH OF PROJECTS ACROSS THE CRA AND WE CONTINUE TO SERVE AND WE ARE JUST EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND WE USE LOCAL CONTRACTORS, WE USE LOCAL SUBCONTRACTORS AND WE HAVE LOCAL FAMILIES THAT WORK IN OUR BUSINESS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, SO JACQUELINE, WE CONTINUE TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. WE HAVE A LAGOON CLEANUP ON NOVEMBER 22ND AND IT IS AT LITTLE JIM BAIT AND TACKLE. THAT'S THE HEADQUARTER WHERE WE GET OUT THERE AND WE LOOK AT OUR WATERWAYS, WE GET ON OUR WATERWAY, MIGHT BE THE ISLANDS OR JUST ALONG THE ROADWAYS BUT NOVEMBER 22ND, RIGHT BEFORE THINGS GETTING HOLIDAY, AGAIN, GETTING BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY. I DID WANT TO SHARE ALSO THAT THE SOUTH BEACH ASSOCIATION IS GOING TO MEET AS A GROUP NEXT MONDAY NIGHT. I KNOW IT'S KIND OF SHORT NOTICE BUT OCTOBER 27TH, MONDAY NIGHT, NEXT WEEK, AND WE DO HAVE THE PORT AUTHORITY IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY , JOSHUA WARD, ALSO THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS COMING TO SPEAK AND GIVE A QUICK PRESENTATION, BECAUSE AS WE KNOW WITH THE'S NORTHEAST STORMS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING WHEN THE BEACH WAS REPLENISHED, I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT IT. I THINK IT WAS A VERY SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WAS USED TO REPLENISH THE BEACH IN EARLY 2025 THAT HAS SINCE WASHED AWAY, BASICALLY, WITH THOSE NOR'EASTERS , AND THAT'S UNFORTUNATE BUT WE GET TO TALK TO OUR FOLKS AT ARMY CORPS, ASKING THE TOUGH QUESTIONS, SEE WHAT KIND OF PLANS THEY HAVE AND THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE US A PRESENTATION AT WESTSIDE CHURCH ON SOUTH BEACH AND HUTCHINSON ISLAND THERE ON GULF STREAM AND THAT WILL BE NEXT MONDAY NIGHT, OCTOBER 27TH. BUT OVERALL I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR THE SUPPORT. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO EVERY SINGLE DAY. WE

APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU SIR. WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO NEXT? WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO NEXT? OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO

[15. COMMENTS FROM THE CITY MANAGER]

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CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AND MOVE ON.

>> OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE CITY MANAGER.

>> SEVERAL THINGS I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT BUT I THINK I NEED TO AT LEAST STRESSED LITTLE GEMS IN CONTEXT. HOPEFULLY I CAN GET SOME CLARITY, WHAT HAPPENED IN THE RFP THAT WAS ISSUED, AND IT'S NOT CANCELED, IT WAS CLOSED, WHICH IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. WE RECEIVED FIVE RESPONDENTS, WE CALL THEM RESPONDENTS, FIVE RESPONDENTS AND TWO OF THE RESPONDENTS WOULD BE NONRESPONSIVE BECAUSE THEIR INFORMATION WASN'T SUBMITTED. I WAS TOLD IT WAS JUST AN ADDENDUM, NOT A BID PACKAGE, THE FINANCIAL, ALL THE DATA THAT WAS REQUIRED, AND THREE OF THE RESPONDENTS, ONE DID NOT SUBMIT A BALANCE SHEET, AND ONE DID NOT SUBMIT MANDATORY DOCUMENTS, AND ANOTHER DID NOT SUBMIT A BALANCE SHEET, WHICH WAS MANDATORY. SO WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE LAST TWO RESPONDENTS, THE CURRENT OPERATOR OF LITTLE JIM AND THE OUTSIDE , I DON'T KNOW ACTUALLY OF THEM, I MET ONE MEETING TOTALLY DIFFERENT SUBJECT BUT WHAT HAPPENED, IT WASN'T DETERMINED THAT THEY WERE NONRESPONSIVE UNTIL AROUND REALLY SEPTEMBER 22ND AND I THINK THE OBJECT APPEARS AS IF THE ARTICLE CAME OUT AND THE CITY FLIP FLOPPED AND JUST TOSSED BOTH OF THEM. IT DID NOT HAPPEN LIKE THAT. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I DON'T PARTICIPATE IN RFPS. WE KNOW WHY A CITY MANAGER SHOULD NOT DO THAT. WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO MY PREDECESSOR. SO I'M TOTALLY REMOVED FROM THAT PROCESS. ONCE WE SELECT THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE THERE IS A CONE OF SILENCE. THEY DON'T EVEN SPEAK WITH ME ABOUT, THEY DO NOT SPEAK WITH THE MAYOR AND COMMISSION ABOUT THE RFP AT ALL OR ANYONE SO THE CODE OF SILENCE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US AND IT JUST ISOLATES THAT GROUP TO DEAL INDEPENDENTLY. IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE PERMIT CITY MANAGER, NOT EVEN TO EACH OTHER. SO AROUND SEPTEMBER 22ND WE HAD A MONTH IN WHICH THE RFP WOULD'VE BEEN CLOSED UP. THE DATE WAS OCTOBER 24TH SO I MET WITH THE MANAGER, I SAID I'LL MEET WITH THE PROCESS, I THINK WE CONCLUDED THAT WE MAY HAVE AN ISSUE. FOR THE MANAGER I SAID WHAT THE ISSUE, DID YOU SCORE? DID EVERYONE MEET THE MANDATORY REQUIREMENTS ? SHE WENT DOWN THE LIST OF THESE TWO BIDS AND SAID THIS ONE DIDN'T PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION WE GAVE THEM A ZERO AND THIS INFORMATION WE GAVE THEM A ZERO, I SAID WAIT, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. IF THEY DIDN'T SAY SOMETHING THAT WAS MANDATORY THEY WERE NONRESPONSIVE AND THEY KNEW THAT AS WELL. IF THEY SUBMITTED INFORMATION THEY SHOULD'VE BEEN NONRESPONSIVE UPFRONT LIKE THE OTHER NOT HAPPEN SO AT THAT STAGE THAT WAS SEPTEMBER 22ND ON THE DATE THE FINANCE DIRECTOR WAS ON VACATION. THE MANAGER REPORTS TO HER SO WHEN I WENT TO MY BOSS THE MAYOR AND COMMISSION ON SEPTEMBER 30TH I MET WITH THE FINANCE DIRECTOR, EXPLAINED TO HER WHAT WE DISCUSSED AND GOT WITH THE DECISION IS GOING TO BE. THE OCTOBER 5TH I MET WITH THE COMMISSIONERS, EXPLAINED TO THEM THAT WE ARE NOT SELECTING ANYONE. THEY WERE ALL NONRESPONSIVE. OCTOBER 6TH I MET THE MAYOR AND SAID THE SAME INFORMATION. THAT ARTICLE CAME OUT OCTOBER 10TH AND THE FOLLOWING WEEK WE PUT OUT A STATEMENT, TOOK THE LETTERS TO THE VENDORS LETTING THEM KNOW THE RESPONDENTS THAT THEY WERE DEEMED NONRESPONSIVE BUT THE OPTICS APPEAR THE CITIZENS MADE BECAUSE THE ARTICLE WAS IN THE NEWSPAPER, THAT WASN'T THE CASE. THAT THE CITY WAS MADE ACTUALLY SEPTEMBER 22ND BUT I WASN'T GOING TO MAKE ANYTHING PUBLIC UNTIL I SPOKE TO MY BOSSES FIRST. THE WORST THING I CAN DO AND AT THE SAME TIME SPEAK TO THE PURCHASING MANAGER BOSS WHICH IS THE FINANCE DIRECTOR SO I WANTED TO BE TRANSPARENT INTERNALLY FIRST. I SPOKE TO THE FINANCE DIRECTOR, I SPOKE TO MY BOSSES AND THEN WE ARE JUST GOING TO LET IT BE KNOWN TO THE PUBLIC, BY THEN THE CAT WAS ALREADY OUT OF THE BAG, IT WAS LIKE THE CITY RECOMMENDED OUTSIDE VENDOR. THERE WAS NEVER A VENDOR RECOMMENDED TO ME, PERIOD. WE DISCUSS WHAT THE ISSUE WAS. NO ONE EVER CAME TO ME AND SAID, MR. CHESS, WE HAVE THESE TWO VENDORS, WE RECOMMEND VENDOR A, IT NEVER HAPPENED, SO WHEN I SPOKE WITH THE MAYOR AND COMMISSION IT WAS CLEAR THAT NOTHING WAS EVER RECOMMENDED TO THEM, SO THIS STORY THAT I GUESS THE NARRATIVE IS THAT THE CITY HAS SELECTED OUTSIDE VENDORS FROM MICHIGAN. WE GOING TO GIVE IT TO THEM BUT WE BACKTRACKED FROM THAT. THAT NEVER HAPPENED.

IF THE PURCHASING MANAGER WOULD'VE WENT THROUGH ALL THE CRITERIA AND ALL THE INFORMATION WAS VALID WE WOULD'VE SELECTED A VENDOR. IF THE PERSON FROM MICHIGAN WOULD'VE WON, SO BE IT, THEY WOULD'VE WON. WHAT I TOLD THE STAFF THIS MORNING, DEPARTMENT HEADS, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD ANYONE FROM THE OUTSIDE INFLUENCE THEIR DECISION IN THE RFP PROCESS. WE DON'T WANT TO BE THERE. IT'S ILLEGAL. IT'S AGAINST STATE LAW. IT'S AGAINST OUR ORDINANCES. IF THEY CAN -- IT'S FEAR OF COMPETITION, WE CALL IT FEARING COMPETITIVE COMPETITION WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THIS BID RFP PROCESS. SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE STAFF UNDERSTANDS THAT THEY SHOULD NOT BE INFLUENCED BY SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT ARTICLES. NO ONE HAD EVER GIVEN ME A LETTER.

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I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEONE SAID THE LETTER WAS WRITTEN TO ME, I NEVER RECEIVED A LETTER BUT IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE I KNOW MY ROLE IN THIS RFP PROCESS. THE STAFF EVEN UNDERSTANDS THAT EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION EVALUATION CRITERIA.

IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW TO SUBMIT THE INFORMATION THEY CAN CONTRACT THE PURCHASING MANAGER. THEY'LL ASK HER A QUESTION OR THEY'LL PROPOSED EMAIL AND SHE WILL RESPOND TO EVERYONE IN THE SAME FASHION, ON THE WEBSITE, SO THE QUESTION CAME IN. SHE GIVES THE ANSWER TO EVERYONE, SAY WHO GETS THE BENEFIT OF THAT. NO ONE SHOULD BE EVALUATING THE RFPS DIFFERENTLY FROM ANYONE ELSE. EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION THAT WAS SUBMITTED IN THE RFP. IT SHOULD BE RECEIVED IN THE SAME MANNER AND FOR THAT PROCESS WE GO THROUGH THE EVALUATION PROCESS. IF SOMEONE MISSES SOMETHING THAT'S MANDATORY, THEY ARE NONRESPONSIVE, NO MATTER WHO IT IS. I HEARD NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS ABOUT LITTLE GEMS . I DON'T KNOW PERSONALLY WHATSOEVER. I DON'T KNOW THE PERSON OUT OF MICHIGAN WHATSOEVER. I JUST KNOW THAT IN THE RFP PROCESS WE HAVE TO BE CREDIBLE. WE HAVE TO FOLLOW STATE LAW. WE HAVE TO FOLLOW OUR CODE AND OUR ORDINANCES AND I TOLD STAFF I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS, YOU DON'T -- FORGET THE ARTICLES, YOU DON'T GO TO SOCIAL MEDIA AND HAVE SOMEONE INFLUENCE YOUR MINDSET GOING INTO AN RFP . YOU'RE ASKING FOR TROUBLE. I DON'T WANT TO FIND MYSELF UNDERINVEST.

I DON'T WANT MY STAFF UNDERINVEST OCCASION. I DON'T WANT ANYONE ARRESTED, ACCUSED, IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER. SO MY DIRECTION TO STAFF IS THAT IT'S EDUCATION AND IT'S KNOWING THAT THERE'S CERTAIN CRITERIA THAT WE MUST FOLLOW IN OUR LIVES WHEN IT COMES TO RFPS AND I'M GOING TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO THAT BECAUSE ANY STAFF MEMBER, AND HE KNOWS THAT, GOING TO RFP PROCESS AND THEY ARE BIASED, FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE WITH ME, TERMINATION IS GOING TO BE THE LEAST OF THEIR PROBLEMS. THEY'LL HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE STATE, FDL E, YOU NAME IT. I WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT STAFF ARE GIVEN SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS WITH THESE RFPS, AS FAR AS THE LITTLE JIM THAT WAS JUST SUBMITTED, IT WAS CLOSED AND NOT CANCELED BECAUSE EVERYONE WAS DEEMED NONRESPONSIVE. THEY'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND GOING FORWARD NOW, GOING BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, WE GOING TO LET THE CONDITIONS OF THE CURRENT RFP, THAT HAVE WENT OUT, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT RFP, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE PROPERTY OVERALL TERMS OF WHAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO LEGAL BE THERE AND WE'RE GOING TO PUT OUT A NEW RFP IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND IT WILL BE A MUCH BETTER PRODUCT .WE ARE GOING TO HAVE EVERYONE ELSE INVOLVED, MOSTLY EVERYONE FROM ENGINEERING, CODE, PLANNING, BUILDING, THE MARINA, DIRECTOR AS WELL. WE ARE LOOKING AT THE CONDITIONS OF THAT FROM A BROAD PERSPECTIVE, ENSURE THAT WHEN WE PUT THAT RFP OUT IT WAS VETTED PROPERLY INTERNALLY WITH THE TEAM AND THEN THE MEHRAN COMMISSION WOULD KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AS WELL SO THIS WAY IT WILL BE A MORE TRANSPARENT PROCESS. I JUST HATE THAT ANYONE FEELS THAT WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE CURRENT RFP, HOW IT WAS CANCELED BECAUSE WE JUST NEGATED THE LAST TWO VENDORS OF RESPONSE AT THE SAME TIME, THAT IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN.

OPTICS ARE OPTICS AND I UNDERSTAND SOMEONE WILL SAY YOU WAIT UNTIL THEY GO OUT, NOW I GOT FROM OUT OF TOWN WON, NOW YOU ARE TAKING IT AWAY FROM HIM. IT DIDN'T HAPPEN LIKE THAT.

THAT DECISION WAS MADE SEPTEMBER 22ND. I WANT TO BE ON THE RECORD FOR THAT SO GOING FORWARD HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A BETTER INTERNAL PROCESS WITH STAFF, WITH THE TRAINING AND EDUCATION, AND WE ARE TRYING TO DETERMINE THE FINANCE DIRECTOR, WHOSOEVER IS PURCHASING, THAT WE IDENTIFY A WAY TO SEE WHO'S NONRESPONSIVE UPFRONT AS OPPOSED TO ON THE BACKEND AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE SO I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM THE MEHRAN COMMISSION AS WELL BUT I DO WANT TO SHIFT A LITTLE BIT, PIVOT. I WENT TO THE FRA, FLORIDA REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY CONFERENCE LAST WEEKEND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CRA SUNSETTING IN 2039. THEY SAID SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY INTERESTING, THAT TODAY WE ARE ALLOWED TO VOTE UNANIMOUSLY TO EXTEND THE CRA.

THE CRA BOARD CAN DO THAT AND SOME OF US HAVE ALREADY DONE THAT SO DOWN THE ROAD THE STATE HAPPENS TO -- HAVE A KIND OF FRAME IT, I WANT TO GET THIS RIGHT. IN 2039, IF WE HAVE EXTENDED OUR FRA BEYOND THAT DATE IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THEY

STILL MAY BE EXTENDED. >> LIKE GRANDFATHERED.

>> I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND I'M GOING TO HAVE THE FPR A STAFF REACH OUT TO ANOTHER CITY WHO HAS DONE IT ALREADY AND LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE. TWO RESOLUTIONS, THE CITY HAD A RESOLUTION IN THE FP RA HAD A RESOLUTION EXTENDING THE CRA, I DON'T KNOW, INDEFINITELY OR FOR THE NEXT AMOUNT OF YEARS. I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT JUST FOR THE RECORD. I WANTED TO JUST TALK ABOUT THAT AND WORK WITH FP RA STAFF AND WITH CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO GET A COPY OF THOSE TWO RESOLUTIONS FROM THE CRA AND THE CITY FROM THAT PARTICULAR

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AGENCY AND SEE IF WE CAN TRY TO GET THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR US.

>> IS THERE A TIME LIMIT THAT YOU COULD EXTEND IT BY?

>> THEY DIDN'T SAY WHETHER IT WAS 20 YEARS OR INDEFINITELY BUT THEY DID IT. A COUPLE OF THEM HAD DONE IT AND THEY WERE KIND OF GLAD THAT THEY DID IT. I SAID WHY WOULDN'T WE JUST DO THAT.

FOR SOME REASON THEY FELT IT WAS A BENEFIT.

>> I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING. >> AND THERE WAS TALK ABOUT SB 180 AS WELL IN TERMS OF HOW THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT US SO THEY WERE REALLY INTO THE NITTY-GRITTY IN TERMS OF HOW IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE CITY AND YOU HAVE SOME CITIES ACROSS ITS FILING LAWSUITS AGAINST OTHER STATES REGARDING THAT BUT OVERALL IT WAS A GOOD CONFERENCE. WE DID VERY WELL A LOT OF INFORMATION I BROUGHT BACK, I'M GOING TO SHARE WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AS WELL FROM THE CONFERENCE BUT FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT THE ISSUE FOR ME WAS TRYING TO SEE IF WE COULD EXTEND THE CRA, MAYBE SOME BENEFIT TO US AS WELL AS THEY DISCUSSED PROPERTY TAXES OF COURSE, WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THAT ALREADY. AND THAT'S IT FROM MY UPDATE. THANK YOU.

>> I WANT TO -- FOR THE RECORD, TO CLARIFY WHY WE HAVE TO DO THE

RFP IN THE FIRST PLACE. >> ABSOLUTELY, YEAH. WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT LIKE WITH ANY OTHER VENDOR WHO HAS AN AGREEMENT WITH US, LIKE WE ARE NEGOTIATING NOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THE SUNRISE THEATER. YOU WILL HAVE A VENDOR MAYBE FOR A THREE OR FIVE YEAR PERIOD SO THE CURRENT VENDOR WITH LITTLE JIM'S WE HAD AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM AND WHEN IT EXPIRED WE WENT ON A MONTH-TO-MONTH AGREEMENT. WE JUST CAN'T HAVE AN INDEFINITE AGREEMENT WITH A VENDOR IF IT'S NOT CODIFIED IN SOME KIND OF FORMAL DOCUMENT OR FORMAL CONTRACT. WHAT HAPPENED, WE'RE ON A MONTH-TO-MONTH WITH LITTLE JIM'S SO WE WANT TO GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN HAVE A SOLID VENDOR THERE , WHERE THERE'S A FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT, TENURE AGREEMENT, THE MEHRAN COMMISSION GET TO GIVE US DIRECTION ON THAT BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE MONTH TO MONTH SO WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING WITH THE EQUIPMENT FOR SUNRISE THEATER. WE CAN'T BE MONTH-TO-MONTH WITH PROPERTY LIKE THAT SO WE REALLY NEED TO PUT AN RFP OUT, UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THAT PROPERTY, GET THE BEST PROPOSALS POSSIBLE AND SELECT A VENDOR TO GO FORWARD. SO THAT'S THE REASON THAT WE HAVE AN RFP, BECAUSE WE ARE ON A MONTH-TO-MONTH CONTRACT WITH THE CURRENT OPERATOR OF LITTLE GYMS AND WE NEED TO GET THAT IN A MORE STABLE AND LONG-TERM AGREEMENT. BUT WE CANNOT JUST SELECT THAT VENDOR AND GIVEN A CONTRACT. THE POINT I WAS MAKING EARLIER, NO ONE CAN TELL US, SHE'S DOING A GREAT JOB, JUST GIVE IT TO HER. IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT WITH PUBLIC FUNDS AND AS I SAID, IT'S CONDITIONS, AS A CITY MANAGER, I WOULD NEVER GET TO UNDERSTAND WE CANNOT JUST GIVE THIS CONTRACT TO THE CURRENT OPERATOR. IT HAS TO BE COMPETITIVE, IT HAS TO BE FAIR,

UNBIASED AND IMPARTIAL. >> THAT THE STATE REQUIRES THAT.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> PUBLIC LANDS, YOU DON'T GET A PERMANENT PLACE ON PUBLIC LANDS UNLESS YOU WIN THE BID EVERY TIME AND I THINK OUR LONGEST TIME IS 20 YEARS, ISN'T

IT? >> I'M NOT SURE.

>> I BELIEVE IT IS. >> IT HAS TO BE COMPETITIVE.

>> IT'S GOT TO BE COMPETITIVE AND IT'S GOT TO BE FAIR, AND I KNOW THAT THE PUBLIC DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THAT, AND THEY WON'T

AFTER TONIGHT. >> BUT THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE ASKING , THEY'RE PUTTING THE CITY EMPLOYEES AT RISK, ME PERSONALLY AT RISK IF YOU'RE ASKING THEM TO SELECT A VENDOR AND GIVEN A CONTRACT. IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT WITH PUBLIC FUNDS. IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT WITH PUBLIC PROCUREMENT AND WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE STATE LAWS AS WELL AS OUR OWN ORDINANCES. AND THE RFP IS OUT THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE A MONTH-TO-MONTH LEASE AND WE NEED A MORE OF A LONG-TERM AGREEMENT FOR OPERATOR AT THAT PROPERTY. THERE REALLY WILL BE AN ETHICS FINDING IF WE DON'T FOLLOW THE LAW AND NONE OF US WILL BE HERE.

AND MORE THAN ETHICS, RIGHT? >> YES. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO TRY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE PUBLIC, HELP THEM UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING THE LAW, WHICH REQUIRES US TO DO THIS.

IT'S PUBLIC PROPERTY, CITY-OWNED PROPERTY, AND WE WANT THE BEST RESPONDENT SUBMIT THE BEST BID, AND WE HAVE NO PREFERENCE TO THAT IS. THAT'S THE KEY FOR US. I CAN'T PREFER THE CURRENT OPERATOR OR SOMEONE FROM UPSTATE OR OUT OF THE STATE, WHATEVER. WE JUST WANT THE BEST COMPETITION AND SELECT THE BEST VENDOR WHO SUBMITTED THE BEST BID PACKAGE. THAT'S WHAT OUR JOB IS, TO BE JUST FAIR IN THIS ENTIRE PROCESS AND THE TRANSPARENCY HAS TO BE THERE. WE WILL DO A BETTER JOB OF THAT SECOND TIME AROUND, THE THIRD TIME AROUND I GUESS FOR THIS

PROJECT. >> MAY I ASK A QUESTION ON THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S THE PART I WANT TO WAY INTO. YOUR COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE SITTING HERE, THE MAYOR, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE FINAL WHEN YOU, BASED ON OUR DIRECTION AND INPUT, WE WILL BE IN A PUBLIC FORUM LIKE THIS TO ACTUALLY HAVE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE RFP, YOUR COMMISSIONERS, YOUR MAYOR CAN WEIGH IN AT THAT POINT WHERE WE WILL MAKE THAT DECISION TO SAY, STAFF, AS IS THE FINAL BLESSING, EVERYTHING IN THIS IS BUTTONED UP, WRITTEN THE WAY WE WANT, PUT IT OUT IN THE STREET.

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>> I DO NEED TO ADD THAT THE SPIN IN SOCIAL MEDIA, THE LAW DOESN'T MATTER AND THE TRUTH DOESN'T MATTER. THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEING SPUN AROUND OUT THERE AND EVEN TESTIFIED HERE TONIGHT IS SIMPLY TRASH INFORMATION, IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT. IT'S GOT A LIFE OF ITS OWN.

>> I WAS GOING TO WAIT BUT I CAN DO IT RIGHT NOW, MADAME MAYOR.

TWO THINGS ON THIS POINT I'M JUST CURIOUS AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW, ESPECIALLY WHAT I HEARD TONIGHT FROM THE 22ND, HOW DID INFORMATION LEAVE CITY HALL AND GET OUT IN THE PUBLIC BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE STARTED WRITING ME I WAS LIKE MICHIGAN, WHERE IS MICHIGAN COMING FROM, WHAT ARE YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT, SO IT PUTS ME IN A POSITION WHERE I FEEL LIKE I'M NOT PAYING ATTENTION BUT I SAID I HAVEN'T VOTED ON ANYTHING. THIS HASN'T BEEN BROUGHT IN FRONT OF ME SO WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT AND THEY ARE LOOKING AT ME LIKE IT'S IN THE PAPER, AGAIN, I HAVEN'T VOTED ON ANYTHING, HASN'T BEEN BROUGHT IN FRONT OF ME SO WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IS HOW IS INFORMATION GETTING OUT FROM INSIDE FOR PEERS, GETTING UP TO SPREAD ALL THESE? I KNOW ON THE OUTSIDE, I AIN'T WORRIED ABOUT THE OUTSIDE BECAUSE PEOPLE OUTSIDE SPREAD WHAT THEY WANT TO SPREAD BUT ON THE INSIDE WE HAVE TO DO -- I DON'T WANT INFORMATION GETTING OUT FROM THE OUTSIDE AND IF WE HAVE EMPLOYEES DOING THAT I NEED YOU TO ADDRESS

THAT. >> THAT DID NOT HAPPEN. WHAT HAPPENS, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THE DEAL WAS A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST FROM THE MEDIA AND THEY HAVE THAT INFORMATION, I BELIEVE IT WAS AUDIO INFORMATION AND PERHAPS A TRANSCRIPT WHICH I HAVEN'T SEEN EITHER SO I HAVEN'T REALLY LOOKED AT THAT BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THOSE TWO RESPONDENTS WERE RATED SO THAT'S TRUE INFORMATION BUT NO ONE IS EVER RECOMMENDED, WHICH IS MISINFORMATION, SO THERE WAS NEVER A RECOMMENDATION TO MYSELF, NEVER RECOMMENDATION TO THE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS ON THAT ISSUE BUT I BELIEVE THERE'S ACCURACY IN THAT THOSE TWO RESPONDENTS WERE RATED AND SCORED. WE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THEM. I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE MISUNDERSTANDING, WITH THOSE SCORES THE SCORES SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED AND I SAID IT WASN'T ANY INFORMATION, IT WAS A RECORDS REQUEST.

>> I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. THE SECOND THING, MR. MANAGER, YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB BUT COMMISSIONER AND MR. CHESS , WHEN WE GET TO THIS NEXT RFP I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO HAVE AN RFP ON PUBLIC LANDS AND PUBLIC PROPERTY AGENDA ITEM AND THAT WE CAN DISCUSS IT ON AGENDA ITEM. PEOPLE CAN READ IT ON THE AGENDA AND WE DISCUSSED WHAT WE CAN DO, WHAT WE CAN'T DO, SO EVERYBODY CAN STAND UP THERE AND ASK QUESTIONS, OR DO WHATEVER ABOUT THIS PROCESS SO EVERYBODY WILL BE ON THE SAME PAGE. BECAUSE TALKING ABOUT IT, AND YOU DID A GREAT JOB, BUT TALKING ABOUT IT TONIGHT, I'D RATHER HAVE A WHOLE SECTION, WE TALK ABOUT IT, WE PUT IT OUT THERE, PUT IT ON THE SCREEN, HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO IT? THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO AND THIS IS WHAT WE CAN'T DO BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO TALLAHASSEE ON AN ETHICS COMPLAINT. I'M NOT GOING TO TALLAHASSEE WITH NO BAR COMPLAINT AND I'M DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO JAIL BECAUSE SOMEBODY THINK I'M DOING SOMETHING WRONG WITH THIS -- WITH THESE RFPS AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE FUNNY BUT IT'S THAT SERIOUS. GO THAT'S WHAT RFP AND DOING SOMETHING CAN MAKE YOU GO TO JAIL. IT'S A VIOLATION OF STATE LAW. WE CAN'T MAKE THE LAW SO TO MAKE THAT VERY CLEAR TO EVERYBODY, I THINK WE PUT ON AN AGENDA, ONE OF THESE AGENDAS WE ARE HAVING, AND WE DISCUSSED IT, ONCE YOU FIX EVERYTHING AND WE BE CLEAR BEFORE WE GO OUT, EVERYBODY SEE WHAT IT IS AND WE FIX IT AND IF THAT'S LEGAL BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING WITH RFP BUT IF WE PUT IT OUT, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE PUTTING OUT, THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO, THIS IS WHAT WE CAN'T DO, SO EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE AND WE GO FROM THERE.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES, MY CHIME IN ON THIS IS THAT MY PERSPECTIVE, AS YOU OFTEN SAY, I PUT ON MY OTHER HAT. I AM A COMMERCIAL LEASING PERSON. THAT'S WHAT I DO. I RENT COMMERCIAL SPACE AND AS THIS PROCESS HAS ROLLED OUT, WE FIND ONE PROBLEM AFTER ANOTHER PROBLEM, AFTER ANOTHER PROBLEM, SO MY OVERVIEW OF THE LITTLE GYM SITUATION IS SIMPLE. WE HAVE STATE VIOLATIONS. WE HAVE DOCS THAT WE ARE ALLOWING A TENANT OF

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THE CITIES TO RENT THAT'S ON STATE-OWNED LAND. HOW CAN WE ALLOW SOMEBODY TO RENT SOMETHIN THAT'S ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY? THAT'S JUST ONE LAYER OF THE PROBLEM. THEN WE GOT THE HALL COUNTY BASKET OF PROBLEMS. THAN WE HAVE, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY HAD ISSUES WITH WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE. THE LAUNDRY LIST IS CANDIDLY WRAPPING YOUR HEAD AROUND IT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE. IT'S ALMOST A FULL-TIME JOB SO MY COMMENT ON THIS, AND I'LL BE CANDID ABOUT IT WAS WE WERE TRYING TO FORCE ONTO A TENANT ASANDWICH AND I MEANT THAT CANDIDLY TO SAY WE ARE THE LANDLORD HERE. IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO CLEAN UP THIS MESS. WE CAN'T EXPECT A TENANT TO COME IN AND SPEND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IF NOT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO FIX MASSIVE VIOLATIONS AT THE STATE LEVEL, COUNTY LEVEL, AND CITY LEVEL. THIS IS SIMPLY IRRESPONSIBLE OF THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE TO CONTINUE TO DO BUSINESS IN THIS METHODOLOGY. SO WHAT I'M SUGGESTING, COMMISSIONER GAINES, WE TAKE IT ONE STEP FURTHER, IS THAT WE TAKE THIS SPECIFIC CITY-OWNED ASSET, WE DRILL INTO THESE ISSUES AT THE COMMISSION LEVEL OR AT THE FPR A LEVEL TO FIND OUT WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO CORRECT THESE ISSUES. THEN IF WE GO OUT AND CORRECT THEM, IT'S GOING TO COST A LOT OF MONEY. I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT FACT HOWEVER, WE AT THAT POINT IN TIME HAVE A CLEAN PROPERTY THAT WE CAN PUT OUT FOR RFP TO SOLICIT CLEAN PROPOSALS ON INSTEAD OF SOMEBODY COMING AND SAYING, THE RESPONDENT SAYING YOU MEAN TO TELL ME I'VE GOT TO GO OUT THERE AND FIX DOCS THAT ARE ON STATE-OWNED LAND, HOW IS THAT EVEN FEASIBLE, SO SIMPLY PUT , THE BURDEN SHIFTS TO US. WE ARE THE LANDLORD. WE ARE THE PROPERTY OWNERS, THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE. REGARDLESS OF WHO RUNS THIS PLACE CURRENTLY OR IN THE FUTURE, HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY HERE TO FIX THE ASSET. IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT. SO MY SUGGESTION, COMMISSIONER GAINES, IS TAKE THIS IN A MEETING FORMAT SIMILAR TO WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT, DRILL ON THESE ISSUES SPECIFICALLY, DEVELOP A TIMELINE TO FIX THESE PROBLEMS AND THEN WE CAN RFP THIS THING IN A PROPER FORMAT TO SAY WE'VE GOT A CLEAN ASSET. WE CLEANED UP THE ISSUES WITH IT. LET'S PUT THE RFP OUT THERE AND BY UNDERTAKING THAT, IT'S A VALUE ADD SITUATION FOR THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE BECAUSE OUR RENT THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO COMMAND FOR THAT PROPERTY ONCE THESE THINGS ARE CLEANED UP AND NOT TRYING TO SHIFT THE BURDEN TO PARTY X, IT'S GOING TO GENERATE ADDITIONAL REVENUE TO THE CITY BECAUSE THE RENTS ARE GOING TO BE MORE VALUABLE.

>> COMMISSIONER BRODRICK, REAL QUICK, IF YOU LOOKED ON MY PAPER UNDER COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION, THAT WAS MY NUMBER

ONE SO -- >> WE ARE IN TUNE ON THAT.

>> I THINK WE ALL INTO NON-IT AND I THINK THE OTHER THING, TOO, IS WE CAN NO LONGER TURN A BLIND EYE TO THESE VIOLATIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW ALL THIS STUFF ABOUT JUST LET IT GO. KNOW WE CAN'T BECAUSE NOW YOU ARE JEOPARDIZING THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE FROM A LIABILITY BECAUSE WE ARE AN ASSET HOLDER. SO THERE'S WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE THAT HAS NOT BEEN PROPERLY PROCURED, VETTED AND PROPER DOCUMENTATION SO I AGREE WITH YOU, RIGHT? SO I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A GREAT DAY MEETING THAT WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO HAVE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND THOSE VIOLATIONS THAT ARE THERE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TURN A BLIND EYE TO.

>> AND IF I CAN MAKE A COMMENT, I MET WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS THIS MORNING. WE HAD THAT SPECIFIC. WE HAD A SEPARATE MEETING ON THAT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE PROPERTY. WE HAD THE ENGINEER THERE, THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE THE MARINA DIRECTOR THERE. WE HAD CODE ENFORCEMENT, HAD BUILDING PERMITS. FROM THOSE RESPECTIVE AREAS I ASKED THEM TO COME BACK WITH THE LIST WHEN WE HAVE A MEETING NEXT WEEK ON WHAT THE CURRENT ISSUES ARE WITH THAT PROPERTY, EVERYTHING, AND WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS THAT WE WILL COME UP WITH A SOLUTION FOR EACH OF THOSE ISSUES AND THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY IN TERMS OF SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE PAYING FOR, PERHAPS, WASN'T PERMITTED PROPERLY, SOMEONE ELSE SHOULD BE PAYING FOR IT. I'LL SAY IT LIKE THAT. SO ARE WE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH YOU? SO WE HAD THAT MEETING THIS MORNING ABOUT THAT PROPERTY SPECIFICALLY AND WHAT HAS TO BE DONE TO GET IT UP TO CODE, UP TO COMPLIACE, AND WE TALKED ABOUT GETTING TOGETHER NEXT WEEK EARLY TO REVIEW THAT LIST FROM THE RESPECTIVE AREAS, ENGINEERING, PUBLIC WORKS, CODE, BUILDING PERMITS, THE MARINA SIDE, FROM THE DOCKSIDE, SUBMERGED LEASE, ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON AND WE'LL GET WITH YOU ON THAT. WE CAN ALWAYS HAVE A DAY MEETING TO DISCUSS THOSE ISSUES BUT INTERNALLY WE WANT TO IDENTIFY THE ISSUES AND PROVIDE YOU WITH A SOLUTION FIRST COME AND COME SAY THIS IS WHAT WE HAD DONE IF I, THIS IS HOW WE THINK WE WANT TO APPROACH IT, SO CLEARLY WE ARE WITH YOU 100% WHEN WE HAVE

THAT DISCUSSION TODAY. >> I'D LIKE TO SAY, TOO, THAT ALL OF THIS TIME THAT WE SPENT ON ALL THE ANGST FROM THE PUBLIC AND ALL THE CHURNING THAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE, I THINK IS SIGNIFICANTLY TELLING US THAT THIS PROPERTY IS IMPORTANT.

>> UNDERSTOOD. >> THIS IS HISTORIC AND IT IS IMPORTANT AND IT CAME TO US, I BELIEVE, IN PIECEMEAL, LIKE THE ARMY, WHEN THE ARMY LEFT AND THEY LEFT THE GUARD SHACK AND

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GAVE IT TO THE CITY, THEN IT WAS ABATED, KIND OF JUST GREW AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, IT HAS AN IMPORTANT HISTORIC VALUE TO US BUT IT ALSO HAS HISTORIC PROBLEMS THAT -- AND THOSE PROBLEMS PERHAPS OVER TIME WERE OVERLOOKED AND IT JUST -- SO NOW WE NEED TO SPEND SOME TIME ON IT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GET IT RIGHT BECAUSE IT IS A PRECIOUS PART OF FORT PIERCE AND THE PEOPLE OF OUR COMMUNITY ARE TELLING US THAT. AND SO IT SEEMS TO BE THE BATTLE CRY, DON'T CHANGE LITTLE JIM AND YET SOME CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE AND SOME THINGS HAVE HAPPENED, AND SOME THINGS HAVE HAPPENED ON STATE PROPERTY AND COUNTY SO IT NEEDS TO BE -- WE NEED TO BE CLEAR, CLEAR IT UP AND MAKE IT RIGHT,

THIS TIME DO IT RIGHT. >> UNDERSTOOD.

>> AND I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE ANALYTICAL AND YOU'RE LIKE, YOU DON'T WANT TO GO TO TALLAHASSEE, EITHER. AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF A WORKSHOP. TALKING ABOUT WHY THE CITY DOES WHAT IT DOES IN TERMS OF RFPS, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SOME MORE COMING UP, HELLO, YEAH, WE'VE GOT MORE AFTER THIS AND MAYBE THE PUBLIC WILL NEVER REALLY UNDERSTAND IT.

THEY CAN HAVE A FAVORITE. THEY CAN HAVE A FAVORITE AND WE COULD, YOU KNOW, BE -- BUT WE HAVE TO BE OBJECTIVE. WE HAVE TO FOLLOW, YES. SO ARE WE DONE WITH LITTLE JIM ? ARE WE DONE WITH

THAT ? >> NO.

>> JUST TONIGHT, RIGHT? >> GOING TO BE ABOUT 25 HOURS

WORTH OF MEETING TIME. >> YEAH RIGHT. MS. COX, DID YOU

HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? >> I DID JUST WANT TO ADD, AND I'VE TOLD MR. CHESS THIS , TOO, BUT I'M VERY MUCH HAPPY THAT HE'S HERE AND I VERY MUCH ENJOYED WORKING WITH HIM.

>> THANK YOU. >> I THINK WE MAKE A GREAT TEAM AND HE'S DOING GREAT THINGS FOR THE CITY, AND I REALLY, REALLY UNHAPPY THAT HE WAS THE CHOICE AND HE WAS HERE.

>> YOU ARE VERY GRACIOUS. I APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU.

>> MS. HEDGES. >> MADAME MAYOR, JUST BRIEFLY, SAME WAY. I THINK WE ARE AT A CROSSROADS AND WE NEEDED

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SOMEBODY IN HERE. I THINK SOMEONE SAID RIGHTING THE SHIP SO I APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN AND WORKING WITH US TO GET THINGS MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

>> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHTY. WE'LL MOVE ON TO

COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION. >> ALL RIGHT, AND HE COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER BRODRICK, YOU WANT TO START?

>> I'M NOT GOING TO BEAT THIS LITTLE JIM THING ANY FURTHER.

I'M JUST GOING TO COMMENT THAT WHEN MISINFORMATION IS SPUN UP IN THE PUBLIC FORUM, IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO DO THIS. I GET IT, THERE'S AN ELECTION COMING UP SO IT'S A HOT BUTTON ISSUE BUT ONE PEOPLE OUT THERE ARE PURPOSEFULLY LYING ABOUT WHAT THE RECORD OF COMMISSIONER SITTING UP HERE, I TAKE OFFENSE TO THAT AND I AM NOT GOING TO SIT QUIETLY BY AND ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN. I'M GOING TO PROTECT MYSELF AND DEFEND MY POSITION UNTIL THE END OF TIME, SIMPLE AS THAT, SO ANYBODY THAT WAS TO HAVE THAT ARGUMENT WITH ME, BRING IT. HAVING HAD SAID THAT, I'M GOING TO TRANSITION TO A SEPARATE TOPIC HERE AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE HIGHWAYMAN MUSEUM, MATT SAMUELS TONIGHT WILL SPEAK WILLINGLY ABOUT THAT. I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEND TIME ON THAT PROPERTY AND I HAVE SEVERAL TAKEAWAYS THAT I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU. ONE IS THAT THE INTERIOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE FACILITY, THE BUILDING ENVELOPE AND INTERIOR CONSTRUCTION IS VIRTUALLY COMPLETE. THERE IS A COUPLE OF VERY MINOR ADJUSTMENTS THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE, THAT THE CONTRACTOR WAS WORKING WITH PAUL'S TEAM OVER AT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO RESOLVE. BATHROOMS WERE SET ONE INCH TOO FAR FROM THE A.D.A. COMPLIANT GRAB BARS SO THEY HAD TO MAKE SOME MINOR MODIFICATIONS, ET CETERA. THIS WAS ALL FIXABLE STUFF. HOWEVER, OF COURSE THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A HOWEVER. I KNEW YOU WERE WAITING FOR THAT. THE SITE WORK IS COMPLICATED AND THE SURVEYORS AND THE ENGINEERS, I KNOW MARK'S GOT EYES ON THIS AS WELL, RELATIVE TO THESE GRADE SHOTS TO GET THIS DRAINAGE ISSUE CORRECT. THEY ARE GETTING THERE.

IT'S NOT AN EASY ISSUE AND I'M GLAD WE'VE GOT MARK'S TEAM ON IT BECAUSE WE NEED CITY EYES ON THIS TO MAKE SURE THIS IS CORRECTED ONE TIME. GET THE PITCH GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO GET THE WATER AWAY FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE BUILDING AND ENTERING THROUGH THE DOORS. HOWEVER, THE SECOND

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HOWEVER TO THIS IS THAT WHILE ON-SITE I NOTICED A CONDITION THAT I DISCUSSED BRIEFLY WITH MR. CHESS AND I TOLD HIM I WOULD BRING IT UP AT ONE OF THESE MEETINGS, IS THAT THE BACKYARD OF THE HIGHWAYMAN FACILITY , A PORTION OF IT IS ENTRYWAY. THERE IS A DUMPSTER ENCLOSED THAT'S GOING TO BE LOCATED BACK THERE, AND I ASKED THE CONTRACTOR, I SAID WHAT'S WITH THIS GREEN AREA BACK HERE, THERE IS SOME SODDED AREA UNDER THIS MAJESTIC OAK TREE, AND I SAID WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THIS. HE SAID THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY. THIS IS NOTHING. SHE SAID THE PEOPLE THAT THOSE ENGRAVED PAVERS WERE GOING TO INSTALL THOSE AROUND THE BASE OF THE TREE, AND I SAID OKAY, WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF IT, IT SITS UP HIGHER THAN THE DOORWAYS, IT SITS UP HIGHER THAN THE PARKING LOT. WE ARE LEAVING A DRAINAGE PROBLEM SO WE'RE GOING TO GRADE THAT OUT. IS IT STILL GOING TO BE GRADED HIGHER THAN THE FINISHED GRADE OF THE PARKING LOT? I SAID WHY DON'T WE DO THIS, WHY DON'T WE PAVER BRICK THAT ENTIRE AREA, LOWER IT DOWN, BRING IT TO GRADE AT THE PARKING AREA AND NOW YOU HAVE AN OUTDOOR RECEPTION AREA THAT YOU CAN PUT TABLES AND CHAIRS AND SERVE WINE AND CHEESE, THINGS OF THIS NATURE, TO POTENTIALLY GENERATE FUNDRAISERS, RENT THE PLACE FOR SOCIAL ACTIVITIES, FOR PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO RENT IT, AND THE CONTRACTOR SAID THAT SOUND LIKE A WONDERFUL IDEA, WHY DON'T WE PROPOSE THAT, AND I SAID BECAUSE THE CITY COMMISSION DOESN'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT SPENDING ANY MORE MONEY. HOWEVER, I'M JUST BACK WITH A PENCIL ON THE BACK OF A NAPKIN, I'M PROJECTING IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT A $25,000 COST. I'M JUST REQUESTING THAT MR. CHESS WOULD HAVE THE MANAGEMENT TEAM INVESTIGATE THE COST. I'M NOT SAYING SPEND THE MONEY. WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU IS THAT THIS COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE IT COULD ENHANCE THE PROPERTY FOR REVENUE GENERATION , FOR FUNDRAISING ACTIVITIES OF THE ORGANIZATION, AND ALSO POTENTIALLY FOR OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WANTED TO RENT IT. I'M NOT SAYING SPEND THE MONEY, I'M SAYING LET'S GET THE COST. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST AND $1.1 MILLION WORTH OF MONEY SPENT SO FAR TO PUT THE FROSTING ON THE CAKE, IN MY OPINION, I'M NOT INCLINED TO SPEND MORE MONEY, GUYS. YOU KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN RAILING ABOUT THIS FOR A LONG TIME BUT I'M LOOKING AT A CONDITION HERE, IF IT WAS MY BUILDING I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I WOULD DO TO FINISH IT. FORGET THE COST.

>> ONE THING WE KNOW WE WANT IS FOR THIS GROUP TO BE SELF-SUSTAINING. THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S AN IDEA THAT WOULD

GO FAR TO DO THAT. >> SHE LEFT BECAUSE SHE KNEW I

WAS COMING UP NEXT. >> GO AHEAD.

>> ARE YOU DONE, SIR? >> I'M DONE, CURTIS. JUST TAKE A RIDE BY OVER THERE, YOU'LL SEE EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING

ABOUT. >> I AGREE WITH YOU 100%.

INITIALLY THE VISION WAS THAT, WHEN THEY WERE SELLING THE BRICK PAVERS AND MEMORIAL AREA, IT IS ABSOLUTELY, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE AT THIS POINT NOW THAT SOMEONE CAME UP WITH THAT BEFORE. AND WE ARE MAKING SOME OF THE REQUISITIONS.

I'M OKAY WITH GETTING THE COST. DON'T GET ME WRONG. I THINK THAT THERE ARE WAYS I THINK THAT WE CAN MAYBE FIND A WAY TO FUND THAT, MAYBE WITH SOME OTHER TYPE OF PARTNERSHIP OUT THERE BUT IT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA AND EXTENDS THAT BOUNDARY, AND IT KIND OF CREATES AN AREA. I DID NOT KNOW THE PITCH GRADE WAS HIGHER. IT MAKES SENSE NOW. I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT WHAT WE'LL RUN INTO BUT I THINK IT IS DOABLE. YOU BRING THAT GRADE DOWN SO THAT WE DON'T TRADE OFF AND BRING DRAINAGE INTO THE

DOOR. >> IMPERVIOUS DRAINAGE AS COMMISSIONER JEREMIAH JOHNSON, IT'S IMPERVIOUS DRAINAGE IN THAT AREA BUT IT LOWERS THE LEVEL AND ELIMINATES DRAINAGE PROBLEM IN THE PARKING LOT, ET CETERA. BUT I THOUGHT FROM A VENUE PERSPECTIVE IT MADE A LOT OF SENSE.

>> IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. THE OTHER RECENT ACQUISITIONS ON THAT AREA AND THAT PART IN THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR, I THINK WE ARE UPON SOMETHING NOW THAT WE ARE GOING ON THE RIGHT PATH, IS HOW DO WE CREATE SELF-SUSTAINING FOR THAT MUSEUM AND SPACE THAT CAN BE UTILIZED FOR GREAT EVENTS, WEDDINGS, RECEPTIONS, WHATEVER, AND SO THAT BUILDING NEXT DOOR WHICH WE ACQUIRED ALONG WITH THAT PROVIDES FOR THIS TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY, I THINK. SO I THINK I'M OKAY WITH IT. I JUST DON'T WANT TO HEAR -- I WANT TO HEAR IT.

>> I MUST BE SITTING IN AN EPISODE OF THE TWILIGHT ZONE.

>> I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO SAY THAT.

>> I CANNOT BELIEVE I'M HEARING WHAT I'M HEARING ON THIS SIDE.

AS MUCH AS Y'ALL FUSSED ABOUT CHANGE ORDER --

>> THIS IS NOT A CHANGE ORDER. >> THIS WILL BE A CHANGE ORDER.

>> CHANGE ORDER WAS WHEN WE APPROVED TENSIONER AND WE WENT BACK AND CHANGED WHAT WAS THERE, NOBODY CAUGHT IT. THIS IS SOMETHING I'M GOING TO LOOK AT, WHATEVER.

>> CHANGE ORDER, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO PUT ON. FROM WHAT YOU

GOT -- >> A SIGNIFICANT UPGRADE.

>> LET ME JUST BE QUIET ON THAT. LOOK HERE, GUYS. I SAID FROM DAY ONE, WHATEVER WE'RE GOING TO DO TO THIS BUILDING, LET'S DO IT, ALL RIGHT? AND LET'S DO IT TO MAKE IT LOOK, I'M GOING TO SAY THIS AGAIN, WE ARE CALLING THIS A CITY OF FT. PIERCE MUSEUM.

>> CORRECT. >> MONEY CAME FROM TALLAHASSEE INTO THIS PROGRAM. THIS IS GOING TO BE A STATE MUSEUM. IT'S

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GOING TO BE ON THEIR WEBSITE. IT'S GOING TO BE WHATEVER. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT WE GOT TO DO, LET'S DO IT. MR. MANAGER, MR. CHESS, I HOPE THAT WE GET THIS PRICE, LET'S SELL SOME PAVERS, LET'S GET IT OPEN, THE PAVERS AGAIN.

>> WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

>> I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. LET'S SELL SOME BENCHES, THEN DO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO GET THIS BECAUSE WHEN THIS PRICE COMES IN I JUST KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SAY FROM THAT SIDE OF THE PODIUM AS I'VE HEARD IT BEFORE SO I'M WITH IT.

LET'S FIX IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT IS US OPENING AND IT DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT.

>> IT WOULDN'T LOOK RIGHT. >> IN THE WATER COMING BACK AND AFTER WE GOT THE ENGINEERING, THE WATER GOING THE OTHER WAY.

LET'S JUST FIX IT BUT DO NOT BLOW A GASKET OVER HERE WHEN THIS PRICE COMES BACK BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS OVER THERE. I'VE

HEARD IT. >> I NOTICED THE COST.

>> WHEN A ROUND NUMBER COMES YOU MIGHT HAVE BROUGHT IT UP, SWITCH OUT. THAT'S WHY I'M LOOKING AT Y'ALL LIKE I'M LISTENING.

>> CITY MANAGER, I BROUGHT THIS UP TO HIM, SAID YOU SURE YOU

WANT TO DO THAT. >> I'M GOING TO LEAVE THAT ALONE. AGAIN, TWO QUICK POINTS. WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT ENOUGH BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS YEAR WE HAVE SET SPECIAL MEETINGS AND SPECIAL WORKSHOPS FOR OTHER TOPICS THIS YEAR AND I DO BELIEVE THAT LITTLE JIM IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART OF CITY OF FORT PIERCE, WE NEED TO REALLY THINK ABOUT SETTING UP SOMETHING, INVITING THE PUBLIC, AND THE ONLY THING IS ON THE AGENDA AFTER THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, WHATEVER, WE GO RIGHT TO THE INSTALLATION OF LITTLE JIM. I THINK WE OWE THAT TO THE PUBLIC. THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH NEGATIVITY AND WRONG INFORMATION OUT THAT WE OWE THAT TO THE PUBLIC TO LET THEM UNDERSTAND WHERE WE TRULY STAND ON LITTLE JIM.

>> WE NEED THE LIST OF WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, WHAT THE ENTIRETY OF

THE PROBLEMS ARE. >> ONCE WE GET THE LIST WE DISCUSSED IT AND EVERYBODY IS ON THE SAME PAGE AND THEN I WAS AWAY AT THE MEETING. I AIN'T GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHY WAS AWAY. I WAS AT TRAINING CLASS.

IDEA OF SOMETHING CAME OUT ABOUT THESE CHRISTMAS LIGHTS AND I WATCHED THE MEETING WHEN I WAS % SUPPOSED TO BE READING SOMETHING ELSE BUT I DID WATCH THE MEETING AND I ASKED THE QUESTION BECAUSE I WAS REALLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AND UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED, AND WHY IT HAPPENED, AND THE CITY MANAGER AND I TALKED ABOUT THAT AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY WENT BACK AND REVIEWED WHAT WE'VE PAID IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS FOR THESE LIGHTS AND WHAT WE PAID LAST YEAR IS THE SAME THING WE ARE PAYING THIS YEAR, AND IT WAS IN 2023, IT WAS LIKE $60,000, IN 2022 IT WAS LIKE 87, SO I UNDERSTAND GETTING RFP BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT NOT ONE OF US UP HERE IS GOING TO RAISE OUR HAND AND SAY NO TO THOSE CHRISTMAS LIGHTS DOWN THERE, DOWNTOWN, BECAUSE IT'S A BIG EVENT. IT BRINGS TOURISTS. OKAY, IT RINGS TORYISM IN. IT HELPS THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES. I MEAN PEOPLE COME IN. PEOPLE COME IN FROM ALL OVER THE STATE TO SEE THESE CHRISTMAS LIGHTS IN FORT PIERCE. SO I GOT TO GO BACK AND GO IN MY MEETINGS THIS WEEK. I SEE WHAT THIS ALL FALLS IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE I COULDN'T REMEMBER WHERE IT'S ALL FALLING IN THE BUDGET BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT IF IT'S THAT PRICE, YOU KNOW IT'S NOT GOING -- EVERYTHING IS GOING UP SO IT'S NOT GOING TO GET CHEAPER.

SO IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW -- AND I COULDN'T FIND WHEN I TALKED TO YOU WEDNESDAY WAS AN FPRA, WHEREVER IT WAS COMING FROM, I JUST WANT A CLEAR IDEA BECAUSE SITTING IN THIS SEAT, I NOTICED SOMETHING THAT I DON'T WANT TO STOP, BECAUSE IT'S A BIG DEAL FOR THE BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN. IT BRINGS PEOPLE DOWNTOWN. IT MAKES FOR PIERCE LOOK GOOD WHEN EVERYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT US SO I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK THAT WE ARE JUST THROWING MONEY AWAY BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE PAYING, WE ARE PAYING THE SAME THING LAST YEAR AND I DON'T KNOW HOW, I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW IF WE EVER TRACKED HOW MANY PEOPLE CAME DOWN THERE TO SEE THOSE LIGHTS. AND WHAT THEY GENERATED FOR THE CITY. SO I JUST WANT TO BRING THAT UP. AND THE LAST THING, MADAME MAYOR, I'LL SAY, IS THAT -- MS. KOSS,

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CAN YOU GET THE -- IF HE'S NOT HERE, HE'S GONE, BUT I'LL TRY TO FIND A DATE, I MEAN A TIME FOR THIS SBA MEETING THAT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON WAS TALKING ABOUT, MONDAY NIGHT.

>> IT'S ON YOUR CALENDAR. >> IT'S ON MY CALENDAR, I JUST

LOOKED. >> HE TOLD ME ABOUT WHEN HE FIRST SET IT UP TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY HAD IT ON THEIR

CALENDAR. >> I LOOKED ONE DAY. I

UNDERSTAND. >> THE WESTSIDE CHURCH.

>> I JUST WANT SOMETHING I MIGHT ATTEND TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE AGAIN THE BEACH IS OUR BIGGEST ASSET IN FORT PIERCE AND WHAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT, PEOPLE ARE COMING TO THE BEACH CHRISTMASTIME, COMING DOWN, SNOWBIRDS ARE HERE AND THEY'RE GOING TO LEAVE THE BEACH AND WALK THROUGH OUR CHRISTMAS

LIGHTS. >> REMEMBER THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, ONE PLACE TO VISIT.

>> CHRISTMAS LIGHTS, TO GO EAT DOWNTOWN CORE DO WHATEVER DOWNTOWN, SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I WANTED EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND, I WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS PRICE IS NOT GOING TO GO AWAY SO WE NEED TO DO SOME TYPE OF STUDY TO SEE THE GENERATION, WHAT WE ARE PAYING AND WHAT IT'S GENERATION AND HOW IT'S REALLY BENEFITING DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION IN FORT.

>> YEAH, WELL MADAME MAYOR, I'M GOING TO COMMENT TO COMMISSIONER GAINES, IT WAS A PROCESS FOR ME THAT DID NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH HOW THIS CAME ABOUT IN LEARNING SOME THINGS AND EVERYTHING WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN IT COMES TO TRANSPARENCY, I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT KIND OF DISCUSSION AND WE HAVE TO HAVE THESE TYPE OF THINGS IN PROCESS, SO THINGS AREN'T -- I UNDERSTAND THERE WILL ALWAYS BE EMERGENCIES AND STUFF POP UP. WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT BUT ANYTHING OVER 50,000 HAS THIS COMMISSION PUT THAT OFF AND THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SIGNED BEFORE WE

SIGNED OFF ON THIS. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, I AGREE WITH YOU 100%. I AGREE WITH YOU 100%. I SAID THE PROCESS EARLIER THAT WE GOT TO FIX THE PROCESS BUT I WONDER FOR HOW IT WAS SPENT IN THE PUBLIC, HOW IT WAS SPENT IN THE PUBLIC.

>> I MISSED THAT PART. >> THAT WE WASTED $63,000 ON SOME LIGHTS AND I'M LIKE WE REALLY DIDN'T BECAUSE WE GOT THE SAME PRICE WE DID LAST YEAR AND IT'S A BENEFIT TO DOWNTOWN IN THE CITY. SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP BUT THE PROCESS ITSELF, I TALKED TO HIM IN CLASS, LET ME SAY IT RIGHT SO I WON'T GET MYSELF IN TROUBLE, ONE OF MY BREAKS IN CLASS I TALKED TO THEM AFTER THE MEETING ABOUT THAT AND HE TOLD ME, WHEN I SAY HIM, THE CHANCELLOR TOLD ME THAT HE HAD ADDRESSED THAT ISSUE AND HE LET THE PERSON KNOW THAT THEY NEED TO COME IN FRONT OF US, SO I'M GOOD WITH THAT. MADAME MAYOR, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT ON THAT. I JUST WANTED TO CLEAN UP SOME OF THE STUFF THAT'S IN THE PUBLIC, IT'S IN THE PUBLIC ABOUT STUFF SO THEY KNOW WHERE WE ARE. > DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING MORE, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? I JUST WANT TO CLOSE WITH THE GHOST WALK THIS WEEK, WEDNESDAY NIGHT, THURSDAY NIGHT, AND SATURDAY, MAIN STREET GHOST WALK. BIG EVENT DOWNTOWN. BRINGS A LOT OF PEOPLE DOWNTOWN. IT'S ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR OF MAIN STREET EVENTS AND IT INVOLVES A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO GIVE THEIR TIME TO EITHER PORTRAY A CHARACTER OR BE A GUIDE SO THAT IS HAPPENING THIS WEEK. AGAIN IT'S FLORIDA CITY WEEK SO WE ALL APPRECIATE YOU ALL STAYING HERE .

>> MADAME MAYOR, DID YOU SPEAK ABOUT THE FIRE THIS SATURDAY? WE HAD A GREAT WEEKEND TOGETHER. WE GOT TO GET THAT OUT, PLEASE.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT WHEN I WAS DOING YOUR REVIEW BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS WAY -- SATURDAY THE FIRE PLAYED ALL DAY LONG. IT WAS THEIR HOMECOMING AND I WAS THERE FOR ABOUT AN HOUR. MR. CHEST WAS THERE FOR MUCH LONGER AND WE WATCHED THE GAME, AND WE ALSO HAD THE FIRE OF 2021 CAME BACK BECAUSE THEY WERE STATE CHAMPIONS AND NOW THEY'RE SENIORS IN HIGH SCHOOL AND THEY WERE INTRODUCED TO THE CROWD, AND NICE YOUNG MEN WHO ARE ALL PLAYING FOOTBALL IN THEIR HIGH SCHOOLS, FT. PIERCE CENTRAL OR WESTWOOD OR WHEREVER THEY ARE, AND SO MR. CHEST AND I GOT TO MEET THEM AND HAVE OUR PICTURE TAKEN WITH THEM, AND WE HAD -- IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL DAY FOR FOOTBALL IN FLORIDA. THE TEMPERATURE WAS RIGHT. THE KIDS WERE WELL BEHAVED. IT WAS A GREAT, GREAT OUTING, YES, AND MR. CHESS WAS CHEERING THEM ON AND HE STAYED LONGER THAN I DID SO YESTERDAY

>> MORE THAN AN HOUR, WE WERE THERE FOR QUITE A WHILE.

>> I STAYED THERE FOR ABOUT AN HOUR AND I ENJOYED IT THOROUGHLY. IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL DAY.

>> REAL QUICK ON THAT, MADAME MAYOR, MOST OF THOSE KIDS FROM

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THAT TEAM PLAY FOR FT. PIERCE CENTRAL. TWO OR THREE OF THEM PLAY FOR VERO BEACH HIGH SCHOOL AND THEY ARE 8-0 AND 7-1 SO THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO DO THEIR NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP , MAYBE, AND IF THEY'RE LUCKY, GET INTO THE PLAYOFFS AND WIN THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP, SO THOSE KIDS THAT WE SPONSORED DURING THAT TIME HAVE NOT STOPPED AND THEY'LL CONTINUE TO DO GOOD THINGS, AND YOU WILL PROBABLY SEE THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR SOME OF THOSE KIDS GET D1 SCHOLARSHIPS TO PLAY ON SATURDAY, SO YOU WILL GET THE NAMES, REMEMBER THE NAMES SO YOU WILL SEE THOSE KIDS AND SOMETHING I FORGOT, THE -- I FORGET HER NAME BUT SHE -- THE PLANNING BOARD, NOT THE PLANNING BOARD, THE OVERALL REVIEW, THE YOUNG LADY THAT SPOKE TO THE YOUTH GROUP, I TOLD HER TO GO TALK TO THE YOUTH GROUP, THE PLANNING COUNCIL, I FORGET HER

NAME. >> WHO DID YOU TELL?

>> REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL. >> I GOT AN EMAIL FROM HER LAST WEEK AND SHE THANKED ME BECAUSE SHE SAID MR. GAINES, YOU WERE RIGHT. THEY BLEW MY MIND WITH THE STUFF THAT THEY SAID WE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT AND SHE SAID THAT THE YOUTH COUNCIL WAS QUITE SHOCKED THAT ALL THE STUFF THAT WE ARE DOING, SO WE NEED TO GET A BETTER JOB LETTING THE YOUTH COUNCIL KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING BUT SHE WANTED TO THANK US AND SHE WANTED TO TELL US, SHE SENT A MESSAGE TO ME, WANTED TO TELL US THAT WAS ONE OF THEIR BEST OPPORTUNITIES SHE SPOKE WITH YOUTH IN A LONG TIME, SO WE SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF OUR YOUTH COUNCIL.

>> WONDERFUL. THAT'S GREAT. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU MR. CHESS AND SO WE ARE GOING TO BE ADJOURNING, AND SO IF

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