[1. CALL TO ORDER]
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. IT'S DECEMBER 9TH. PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALEANINGANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. Z CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.
[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
>> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. >> PRESENT.
>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> PRESENT.
>> FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE
NOVEMBER 12TH, 2025FPRA MEETING. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE
[5. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA]
>> YES, MA'AM. >> MR. JOHNSON.
>> YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK.
>> YES. >> NEXT WE HAVE DELETIONS AND
APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. >> MOVE TO APPROVAL TO SET THE
>> CALL THE ROLL. >> EXCUSE ME.
>> THAT'S FINE. >> THAT WOULD BE RARE. I HAVE ONE ADDITION. UP FOR DISCUSSION, THE HIGHWAY MUSEUM BRICK GARDEN PAIFERS, JUST WANTED TO DISCUSS THAT. WE HAD SOME OPTIONS ON THAT. WANTED TO BE SURE WE COULD KIND OF FLUSH IT OUT BEFORE WE
ALL MOVE FORWARD. >> YOU WANT TO PUT IT AS B, 8-B?
>> YES, MA'AM. THAT WOULD WORK, YES.
>> GOOD. NOW WITH THAT CHANGE, ARE THE MOTION AND SECOND STILL
STAND? >> MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA WITH THE ADDITION OF 8-B, BRICK PAVER.
>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE
ROLL, PLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.
>> YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES.
>> YES, MA'AM. >> CHAIRWOMAN HUDSON.
>> YES, MA'AM. >> NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM
THE PUBLIC. >> IS THERE ANY MEMBER OF THE
[7. CONSENT AGENDA]
PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? SEEING NOMOVEMENT, WE'LL MOVE ON. >> WE HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.
>> ANY ITEM ANY BOARD MEMBER WOULD LIKE TO PULL FROM THE
CONSENT AGENDA >> MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT
AGENDA. >> SECOND? I THINK THEY BOTH
MOVED APPROVAL. >> SECOND, OKAY.
>> NO, NO. THAT'S FINE. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE
>> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. >> YES.
>> COMMISSIONER GAINES. >> YES, MA'AM.
[A. Consideration of CRA Advisory Committee Recommendation Regarding the Youth Banner Art Showcase Submissions]
>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> YES, MA'AM.
>> CHAIRWOMAN HUDSON. >> YES, MA'AM.
>> OKAY. UNDER NEW BUSINESS WE HAVE THE CONSIDERATION OF THE CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING THE YOUTH BANNER ART SHOWCASE SUBMISSIONS.
>> ALL RIGHT. MR. CHESS, DO YOU HAVE A LEAD-IN
>> MS. HEPARINNAGE IS GOING TO GIVE US AN UPDATE PRESENTATION.
>> MS. HARNAGE, YES. >> MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. WE HAVE A SKELETON SCREW HERE TONIGHT, AND THE CREW WHO'S GOING TO PRESENT IS NOT HERE. SO I'LL DO MY BEST TO SHARE THEIR SENTIMENTS. WE HAVE REALLY TRIED TO ENGAGE THE YOUTH IN OUR COMMUNITY IN CREATING ART. WE HEARD THAT MESSAGE FROM YOU ALL WITH LOCAL ARTISTS FOR MURAL, RIGHT? WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AT LENGTH AT SOME POINT. SO WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT TO ENGAGE THE YOUTH, KINDERGARTEN THROUGH 12TH GRADERS THAT RESIDE OR GO TO SCHOOL IN FORT PIERCE TO ENTER OUR YOUTH BANNER ART SHOWCASE. SO THESE ARE THE LIGHT POLES THAT ARE THROUGHOUT THE FPRA DISTRICT WITH THE BANNERS. SO WE HAD -- WE PUT THIS OUT -- I THINK WE EXTEDED IT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET A TON OF ENTRIES. ULTIMATELY WE GOT 80 SUBMISSIONS. SO THAT'S K-12, AND THEY HAD TO SUBMIT THEIR DESIGNS WITH UNOF THOSE THREE APPROVED THEMES, WE HAD FORT PIERCE LANDMARKS, ARTS AND CULTURE OR NATURE AND SCENIC. SO WE BROUGHT THESE TO THE CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THEIR EVALUATION, AND THEY HAD A UNIQUE IDEA TO GO AHEAD AND INCLUDE ALL OF THEM SO THAT EVERY STUDENT IS -- YOU KNOW, HAS THEIR MARK IN THE PEA COGARTS DISTRICT. WE WERE ORIGINALLY PLANNING TO PUT THESE ON DELAWARE AVENUE AS THEY ARE NOW, THE FORMER ART CONTEST BANNERS THAT ARE THERE THAT ARE PRETTY FADED. SO BY CAST, THE CREATIVE ARTS ACADEMY OF ST.
LUCIE AND GOING FROM THERE, BUT I THINK THERE'S ONLY ABOUT 50 BANNER ARMS IN THAT LOCATION. SO WE'RE GOING TO EXTEND TO THE SIDE STREETS OF SEVENTH AND I THINK ALL THE WAY TO 10TH AS WELL. YEAH, THOSE TWO THERE. SO I CAN GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE, THE ARTWORK. WE DIDN'T EVEN -- THE IDEA WAS TO SELECT FOUR FROM EACH GRADE, BUT WE DIDN'T EVEN RECEIVE FOUR FROM EACH GRADE, AND SOME GRADES WERE NOT EVEN INCLUDED. SO THESE ARE SOME KINDERGARTEN SUBMISSIONS. WE HAVE FIRST GRADE. LOOK AT SOUTH
CAUSEWAY PARK. >> YEAH. WHEN I WENT THROUGH THESE, THERE WERE SOME THAT WERE STANDOUTS.
>> YES, ABSOLUTELY. >> WE'RE RECOGNIZABLE, I THINK,
>> ART IS ALWAYS RECOGNIZABLE, MADAM CHAIR.
>> TALKING ABOUT LOCATIONS. >> YOU'RE RIGHT.
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>> JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH. >> I KNOW THERE WAS A FIRE HAWKS
ONE IN THERE. I NOTICED THAT. >> YES.
>> AND ONE ABOUT BENNY, I THINK. >> YEAH. THERE'S A WELCOME TO FORT PIERCE SIGN HERE, AND THAT LOOKS LIKE THE THEATER.
>> RIGHT. I SAW SOME HERE THAT WERE JUST OUTSTANDING.
>> YES. >> THIS CAN'T BE AN EIGHTH
GRADER DOING THIS. >> WELL, I COULDN'T DO IT, I
KNOW THAT. >> BEAUTIFUL DETAIL TOO ON SOME
OF THIS STUFF. >> YEAH. I THINK THERE WAS A
SEMINOLE ONE TOO. >> SO THE IDEA, AND AS I'M FLIPPING THROUGH, THIS IS THE THEATER AS WELL, THE IDEA WOULD BE TO HAVE THE BANNERS AND KIND OF FRAME THEM, SO, LIKE, THEIR ART WORK WITH BE NO THE CENTER. WE CAN STILL BRAND THE PEACOCK ARTS DISTRIBUTE AND PUT THE NAME AND GRADE FOR THAT RECOGNITION.
WE ALSO PLAN TO PUT THEM ALL ON A MAP SO THAT, AGAIN, ENGAGEMENT OF, HEY, WHERE IT MY BANNER, COME SEE MY BANNER.
>> OH, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. >> AND PRIDE, THAT'S REALLY THE PURPOSE HERE. AND, YEAH, THESE ARE REALLY BEAUTIFUL.
>> HIBISCUS, THAT'S BEAUTIFUL. >> I HAVE A QUESTION AS YOU FLIP THROUGH THIS, MADAM CHAIR. SO, LIKE, ARE THEY ALL KIND OF THE SAME SIZE OR -- THE ORIENTATION IS WHAT I SEE HERE.
>> MADAM COMMISSIONER, THE INTENT IS THEY WOULD ALL BE SUBMITTED IN THE SAME SIZE, LIKE A TWO TO ONE RATIO. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE RECEIVED, SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO MANIPULATE THEM TO GET THEM ALL IN THE THSAME AREA. TH MAY HAVE TO BE SHIFTED A LITTLE BIT. I THINK IT'S THE PURPOSE OF USING THAT FRAME KIND OF
>> -- SO WE COULD GET THEM ALL IN THE SAME. THAT WAS THE
INTENT, THOUGH. >> IF I CAN, MADAM CHAIR, MAYBE AS A SUGGESTION, AND I'M STEALING THIS IDEA FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD. IF WE HAVE ALL 80, IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE PUT THEM ALL ON ONE GREAT BIG BANNER IF WE COULD AND MAYBE HANG THAT
SOMEWHERE AS A TRIBUTE -- >> OVER DELAWARE AVENUE MAYBE OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> LIKE THEY HUNG THAT BIG BANNER ON THE SIDE OF THE SCHOOL BOARD BUILDING, BUT SHOWCASE ALL OF THESE GUYS IN JUST ONE BIG HUGE BANNER.
>> THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. >> AND, YOU KNOW, FROM TIME TO TIME -- AND EACH YEAR, OBVIOUSLY, THEY'LL LOOK FORWARD TO IT. BUT COLLECTIVELY, I THINK -- I'D LIKE TO SEE ALL OF THEM ON ONE THAT WE JUST KIND OF PUT OUT THERE AND SAY THANK YOU, AND I THINK ULTIMATELY WE NEED TO PROBABLY INVITE THESE GUYS TO
CITY COMMISSION. >> YES. I WAS WONDERING, DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA ABOUT GATHERING THESE AT ANY KIND OF GATHERING,
DID YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? >> WE SPOKE ABOUT THAT. WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE -- I FORGET WHAT THE FOR IS CALLED, LIKE A LICENSE AGREEMENT OR SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE TO APPROVE. SO WE HAVE ALL OF THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION. AND WE DID WANT TO INVITE THEM ALL TO A MEETING --
>> RIGHT. >> -- PERHAPS IN JANUARY WHERE THEY CAN COME AND GET RECOGNIZED.
>> GOOD. I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
>> COMMISSIONER. >> MR. JOHNSON, YOU GOT MY MIND GOING, I'M ALL IN ON THIS. THIS IS JUST GREAT AND TO SHOWCASE THE KIDS IN THIS AREA. I LIKE THE BANNER IDEA. BUT YOU KNOW HOW WE HAVE OUR ELECTRONIC MONITOR?
>> THE LED SIGN RIGHT HERE? >> CAN WE DO SOME TYPE OF PROGRAM WHERE IT JUST GOES THROUGH AND SHOWS -- I MEAN, WHATEVER WE GOT TO PUT OUR MESSAGE OUT. BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE RIDING, THEY SEE IT THAT WAY TOO. I'M JUST TRYING TO SHOW -- WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS ONCE WE PUT THIS UP, AND WE SHOW THE COMMUNITY THAT, YOU KNOW, KIDS MATTER, AND WE DO IT -- IF YOU PUT THIS OUT NEXT YEAR, YOU'RE GONNA GET IT. BUT SINCE THEY DID, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE MAXIMUM EXPOSURE FOR THESE KINDERGARTENERS THROUGH, WHAT,
12TH GRADE? >> 12TH GRADE, YEAH.
>> THAT, YOU KNOW, WE THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING AND TAKING THE TIME BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO GET KIDS ESPECIALLY -- AND THEY'LL GET ME -- 11TH THROUGH 12TH, IT'S HARD TO GET KIDS --
>> YOU'RE RIGHT. GUESS WHAT, COMMISSIONER? WE HAVE NONE FROM
>> PERFECT. >> I KNOW WHAT I'M DEALING WITH. BUT SOME 11TH GRADER, 10TH GRADER IS GOING TO SAY WHAT 1234 I GOT THAT. THIS IS MOTIVATION, AND THE MORE WE CAN GET THIS OUT, AND IT ALSO KEEPS YOUR POOL AS IS BECAUSE THE KINDERGARTENERS AND THE FIRST GRADERS AND THE SECOND GRADERS ARE GOING TO SAY, OKAY, I'M GOING TO DO A BETTER PICTURE NEXT YEAR, BETTER PICTURE NEXT YEAR.
>> AND GROW OVER THE YEARS. >> RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I'M
>> AND DOES THE ST. LUCIE CULTURAL ALLIANCE KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY -- THEY'RE REALLY TRYING TO BE A PART OF THE WHOLE ART SCENE AND NOT GET IN YOUR
WAY BUT BE SUPPORTIVE. >> I KNOW SARA DELGADO, MAYOR, WAS VERY ENGAGED WITH THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY IN GETTING THIS OUT.
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I'M NOT SURE OF THEM SPECIFICALLY, BUT WE WILL BE SURE -- WE WILL DO A BIG SPLASH OF RELEASING ALL OF THIS AS WELL, MAYBE WHEN WE GET THE DESIGN WITH ALL OF THEM ON ONE>> -- WE CAN SHARE THAT, AND MAYBE THEY CAN POST IT ON THEIR
-- >> YEAH. THEY'LL BE ALL IN FOR
>> AND THEY'RE LOCATED IN FORT PIERCE, YOU KNOW, AT THE 111 BUILDING, AND THEY'RE REALLY TRYING TO BE CREDIBLE AND INVOLVED AND SUPPORTIVE OF ARTISTS.
>> YES, MA'AM. >> ALL RIGHT. I HAVE SOME GREAT IDEAS HERE. SO THIS IS COMING TO YOU -- THAT WAS JUST A RECOMMENDATION. SO WE WOULD -- YOU GUYS MAKE THE FINAL APPROVAL IF YOU WANT TO USE ALL OF THEM OR SELECT SOME OR HOWEVER YOU
WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. >> AND THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION TO USE ALL OF THEM, ISN'T IT?
>> OKAY. I LIKE THAT. SO YOU NEED ANY FURTHER INPUT?
>> NO, MA'AM. >> OKAY. SO IS THERE A MOTION?
>> MADAM, I SO MOVE THAT WE TAKE THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO USE ALL ART PIECES.
>> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL
THE ROLL, PLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES.
>> YES, MA'AM. >> OOPS. COMMISSIONER BRODERICK.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.
>> YES, MA'AM. >> AND CHAIRWOMAN HUDSON.
>> YES, MA'AM. >> I'D ALREADY MOVED ON TO THE
OTHER ITEM. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. >> GREAT JOB. THIS IS REALLY
[B. ADDED ITEM: Highwaymen Museum Brick Pavers Update and Discussion]
>> VERY POSITIVE. >> OKAY. THE NEXT ITEM IS AN UPDATE AND DISCUSSION ON THE HIGHWAY MUSEUM BRICK PAVERS.
>> ALL RIGHT. MR. CHESS. >> YES, MS. HUDSON, WE JUST WANT TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED CHANGE TO THE PROJECT IN TERMS OF ADDING THE PAVERS. WE HAVE A CAPTION OF THE POSO, SO MS. MOORE IS GOING TO WALK US THROUGH IT, AND WE'LL DISCUSS THE ADDITION OF COST AND TIME FRAME IT'LL TAKE TO DO THE
PROPOSED CHANGE ORDER. >> MS. MOORE.
>> YES, MA'AM. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR, AUDRIA MOORE , SPECIAL PROJECTS COORDINATOR. BACK IN THE OCTOBER 21ST AND 24TH CITY COMMISSION AND FPRA MEETING, YOU ALL DISCUSSED THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR THE BRICK GARDEN PAVERS WHICH IS IDENTIFIED HERE THAT IT MEANDERS AROUND THAT BIG OAK TREE THAT'S TO THE NORTH OF THE HIGHWAY MUSEUM. AND THE -- THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION TO EXTEND THIS AREA TO THE NORTH AND THE WEST PROPERTY LINES. AND SO THE CONTRACTOR HAS GIVEN US AN ESTIMATE OF APPROXIMATELY $14,000 TO EXTEND THIS AREA, AND IT WOULD BE COMPLETED IN ABOUT 11 DAYS, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE YOU ALL AWARE IS THAT THE REASON WHY THIS PARTICULAR AREA WAS DESIGNED IN THE MANNER IN WHICH IT IS DESIGNED IS BECAUSE OF THE BIG OAK TREE AND THE ROOTS THAT ARE THERE. AND SO EVEN WITH THIS PARTICULAR DESIGN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADJUST IT BASED ON WHERE THE ROOTS ARE IN THAT AREA. AND SO THE GRANT THAT WAS FUNDING ALLOCATED FOR, THE BRICK PAVERS IS ABOUT $32,000 FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA. AND SO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE -- TO HEAR FROM YOU IN REFERENCE TO THAT, BUT JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND ABOUT THE PARTICULAR DESIGN FOR THIS AREA, AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT THERE'S THREE, AND, ACTUALLY, THERE'S GOING TO BE FOUR, THESE ARE THE
>> THE MOSAIC BENCHES THAT WE HAVE HAD CREATED THAT WILL GO UNDER THIS TREE. THE IDEA TO PLACE THOSE THERE IS FOR, ONE, IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE SOME PLAIN PAINTING OUTSIDE, ALSO EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES TO EXPLAIN TO VISITORS THAT THE HIGHWAYMEN, THEY DIDN'T HAVE HE'SLES, THEY USED TREES TO PAINT THEIR PAINTINGS, AND SO THAT WAS ANOTHER IDEA THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT UTILIZING THIS AREA AS PART OF THE MUSEUM AND AS PART OF THE PROGRAMMING FOR THAT. SO THIS IS WHAT IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED FOR THAT AREA. THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO ALLOW US TO CONTINUE WITH THIS SO THAT, ONE, THAT WE COULD ELIMINATE ANY ADDITIONAL DELAYS IN COMPLETING THE PROJECT BECAUSE THE PROJECT IS SLATED TO BE COMPLETED BY DECEMBER 30TH, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN MOVING ON. ACTUALLY, THE AREA HAS BEEN GRADED TODAY FOR THE PAVERS. AND WITH THE PLAN, THE PLAN WAS TO BEGIN NEXT WEEK TO DO THIS, TO CREATE THIS AREA.
THE OTHER THING THAT -- MOVING ALONG WITH THE -- MOVING FORWARD
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WITH THE PLAN IS THAT IT WOULD ALSO ENABLE US TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE OUT THE GRANT. WE HAVE -- WE WILL BE RECEIVING AN EXTENSION UNTIL JUNE 30TH OF 2026. BUT THAT WAS JUST SO THAT WE COULD FINISH OUT SOME THINGS BECAUSE THERE'S SOME OTHER ITEMS THAT HAVE COME ABOUT THAT WE'VE GOT TO ADDRESS WITH THIS PROJECT. AND THEN ALSO TO SUPPORT THE MUSEUM'S PROPOSED OPENING, GRAND OPENING DURING THE HIGHWAYMEN FESTIVAL IN FEBRUARY. OR ANOTHER OPTION IS WE COULD TABLE THE EXPANSION OF THE PAVER GARDEN UNTIL AFTER THIS IS COMPLETED AT A LATER DATE SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE TO GET THOSE THINGS COMPLETED, AND THAT WOULD ALSO ALLOW US FOR A LITTLE BIT ADDITIONAL PLANNING AND POTENTIAL BUDGETING, BUT THEN WITH THAT, THE COSTS COULD INCREASE BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE THE CONTRACTOR, IF IT'S THE SAME CONTRACTOR, HE WOULD LIKELY HAVE TO COME BACK AND MOBILIZE AGAIN TO COMPLETE THIS AND THEN OTHER CHALLENGES THAT COULD COME ABOUT IF WE CHANGE COURSE AT THIS TIME GIVEN THE ROOT SYSTEMSOF THE OAK TREE. >> WHO WOULD LIKE TO --
COMMISSIONER. >> QUESTION. IS THERE A REASON WE'RE NOT GOING OUT TO THE PROPERTY BOUNDARIES? I GET THE ARCHITECTURAL OF THIS. BUT I ALWAYS THOUGHT THIS COULD BE USED AS A SEATING AREA, FUNCTION AREA, ET CETERA, AND WE'D NEED MORE SPACE THAN WHAT'S INDICATED ON THE PLAN.
>> THE REASON IS BECAUSE OF THE TREE AND THE ROOTS OF THE TREE.
>> THE ENTIRE CORE THERE IS ALL TREE AND TREE ROOTS. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE NORTHERN PERIMETER, WESTERN PERIMETER AND THE SOUTHERN PERIMETER, WE'RE NOT GOING ALL THE WAY TO THE
BOUNDARY LINES. >> RIGHT. CORRECT. WELL, IT'S JUST TO CREATE -- IT WAS TO CREATE A MEANDERING PATH AROUND THE TREE, AND THAT WAS BECAUSE WE WERE THINKING ABOUT THE ROOTS, AND, NO, WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT GOING OUT TO THE EDGES OF THE PROPERTY BECAUSE WE WERE THINKING OF PUTTING IN LANDSCAPING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE FOR THAT AREA.
>> OKAY. >> SO THIS IS DIRECTLY IN BACK
OR IS IT BACK AND A LITTLE EAST? >> IT'S DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE
HIGHWAYMEN MUSEUM. >> THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER. SO WHAT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT ABOUT THE ROOTS NOW VERSUS IF WE
DO IT LATER? >> NOTHING. THE ONLY THING IS THAT WITH THE ROOT SYSTEM AND THE PLACEMENT OF THE PAVERS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EVEN ADJUST THIS BECAUSE THE ROOT
SYSTEM WILL -- >> BELIEVE ME, I HAVE THIS ISSUE IN MY HOUSE. SO I UNDERSTAND THIS ISSUE WITH PAVERS AND --
>> GET ON SITE AND START INSTALLING THIS STUFF BECAUSE THEY GOT TO EXCAVATE TO GET THE BASEMENT MATERIAL IN AND SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO FIGURE THIS OUT UNTIL THEY'RE THERE
>> THAT WAS THE ONLY REASON. AND JUST TO KIND OF CREATE JUST AN AREA WHEREBY IT WAS -- THIS IS WHAT WE THOUGHT TO DO WITH THAT
AREA BASICALLY. >> I WANT THE FEBRUARY DATE TO HOLD. SO I DON'T -- THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT IT.
>> DO YOU THINK WE CAN GET IT DONE?
>> NO, BECAUSE THE THING ABOUT IT IS YOU CAN'T APPROVE IT HERE BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN REVIEWED BY OUR CITY ATTORNEY. THE CHANGE ORDER HAS TO BE REVIEWED, AND THEN IT HAS TO COME BEFORE YOU, AS WELL AS THE CITY COMMISSION BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS OWNED BY FPRA, BUT THE LAND IS OWNED BY THE CITY.
>> ALL RIGHT. AND SO THAT WILL TAKE -- THAT WILL -- THAT WILL TAKE THE PROCESS APPROXIMATELY MAYBE A MONTH AND A HALF TO COMPLETE. AND THE THING ABOUT IT IS IS I WOULD HATE TO DELAY WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW TO WAIT ON THIS, BUT FROM THE CONTRACTOR'S STANDPOINT, HE WOULD PREFER TO DO IT ALL NOW, BUT INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO COME BACK LATER OR WAIT, SO THAT'S WHERE
WE ARE RIGHT NOW. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES.
>> I'M WITH YOU, MADAM CHAIR, I DON'T WANT THE FEBRUARY DATE MOVED. BUT MY QUESTION WITH THE PAVERS, AND MAYBE THIS IS FOR LEGAL, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN A LOT OF PAVER PROGRAMS WHERE YOU
BUY PAVERS -- >> AND YOU SELL THEM, YEAH.
>> PAVER, AND YOU PUT YOUR NAME ON THAT PAVER. I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY CAN DO THAT OR WHATEVER, BUT IF WE CREATING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IDEA IF IT'S LEGAL THAT THE CITY CAN DO IT BECAUSE I KNOW THE ONES I'VE GONE HAS BEEN PRIVATE, YOU KNOW, ORGANIZATIONS THAT RESIDENTS CAN BUY A PAVER AND PUT THEIR NAME DOWN. BUT LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANT TO EXTEND IT OUT, BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING THROWN OUT THERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN OR NOT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M PRETTY SURE
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IF WE PUT IT OUT THERE, A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL WANT TO HAVE THEIR NAME -- ONE OF THESE PAVERS UNDER THE OAK TREE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S LEGAL. IFIT'S NOT LEGAL, JUST SAY NO. >> I THINK THE HIGHWAYMEN BOARD DISCUSSED THAT SOMETIME, DIDN'T THEY, MS. MOORE?
>> THEY DID. THEY DO HAVE A PAVER PROGRAM --
>> CORRECT. >> -- THAT THEY WERE USING AS A FUNDRAISER, AND IN THE INITIAL PHASE, THEY HAVE HAD SOME INDIVIDUALS PURCHASED, AND IT'S STILL OPEN, IT HASN'T CLOSED.
>> OKAY. >> BUT THAT'S THROUGH THE
HIGHWAYMEN BOARD. >> RIGHT. DO YOU KNOW IF THEY'VE SOLD OUT OR IF THEY CAN INCLUDE IT IN THIS OR YOU DON'T HAVE --
>> NO, THEY HAVEN'T SOLD OUT. >> I'M JUST TRYING TO RAISE -- YOU KNOW, RAISE SOME FUNDS FOR THE MUSEUM, AND IF THAT COULD CUT SOME OF THE COSTS DOWN THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO FOR THE PAVERS, BUT I DON'T WANT TO DELAY ANYTHING. BUT FROM WHAT I'M HEARING NOW IS THIS IS AN UPDATE, WE REALLY CAN'T VOTE ON IT TONIGHT UNTIL IT GOES THROUGH LEGAL, SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, JANUARY BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT? , AND BOTH BOARDS VOTE IN JANUARY. AND IF WE VOTE ON IT IN JANUARY, WILL IT BE DONE BY OPENING DAY FEBRUARY? THAT'S THE QUESTION. WE DON'T KNOW. AND THE REASON I'M ASKING -- I'M NOT PUTTING ANY PRESSURE ON YOU OR THE CONTRACTOR BECAUSE WE WANT TO OPEN IT UP IN FEBRUARY.
SO IF IT'S NOT GOING TO BE -- IF WE CAN'T VOTE UNTIL JANUARY, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DONE, LET'S SLOW IT AND JUST AHEAD, MAN. LET'S SEE WHAT WE WANT BECAUSE I'VE HEARD TONIGHT AROUND THE OAK TREE AND I'VE HEARD TONIGHT WHY NOT ALL THE WAY OUT TO -- YOU KNOW, TO THE ENDS OR THE BORDERS, SO LET'S JUST LOOK AT IT AND SEE. MAYBE I'M LOOKING AT THIS TOO MUCH, BUT THAT'S JUST MY TWO CENTS. SO, MADAM ATTORNEY.
>> MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, IF I MAY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, I DO HAVE A MEMORY THAT THIS CONTRACTOR PREVIOUSLY CAME BEFORE YOU WITH A PROPOSAL FOR ADDITIONAL WORK THAT WOULD REQUIRE A CHANGE ORDER. YOU ALL EITHER GAVE A CONENSUS AND A MOTION OR A VOTE SUBJECT TO A CHANGE ORDER FORMALLY COMING BACK BEFORE YOU. AND I DO BELIEVE HE DID BEGIN THAT WORK A LITTLE BIT EARLY SO AS TO NOT DELAY. MS. MOORE CAN PROBABLY CORRECT ME IF MY MEMORY IS WRONG. I DON'T KNOW IF HE WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE SOME SORT OF VOTE OR GIVE SOME SORT OF CONSENSUS, WE COULD THEN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, OR MS. MOORE COULD HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH HIM SUBJECT TO A FORMAL CHANGE ORDER COMING
BACK BEFORE YOU. >> THE FUNDING IS COMING FROM THE STATE, CORRECT? OR WE RECEIVED THE FUNDING ALREADY?
>> WE RECEIVED THE FUNDING FOR WHAT IS PRESENTED HERE, THIS
ADDITIONAL 14. >> ADDITIONAL 14 WOULD COME FROM
THE FPRA. >> SO IT'S 32 PLUS 14?
>> I KIND OF REMEMBER THAT WE DID GIVE -- WE GAVE -- WE INDICATED WE WANTED SOMETHING TO MOVE AHEAD, BUT WE KNEW WE HAD TO HAVE PAPERWORK. AND THEN WHEN IT CAME BACK TO US, WE WERE, LIKE, DIDN'T WE APPROVE THIS ALREADY, I THINK. AND SO --
>> ARE WE SAYING WE CAN APPROVE IT NOW, GET IT IN THE PIPELINE, AND HE HAS THE CONFIDENCE WE'RE GOING TO PAY HIM, IS THAT WHAT
THIS COMES DOWN TO? >> I THINK THAT'S WHAT SHE JUST
SAID. >> MADAM CHAIR, HE WAS HERE, I BELIEVE, WHEN THAT HAPPENED, IF MY MEMORY IS WORKING. SO I DON'T KNOW IF HE AND MS. MOORE HAVE HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT BEFORE, BUT I BELIEVE HE WAS PRESENT AT THAT MEETING WHERE THAT HAPPENED AND DISCUSSED IT WITH THIS BOARD.
>> I KIND OF REMEMBER THAT. >> APPROVE THE CHANGE ORDER, I'LL LET YOU GUYS SORT OUT THE REST OF IT, IS THAT WHAT I'M
HEARING? >> IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE KIND OF SAYING? MS. MOORE, YOU'RE NOT SAYING ANYTHING. CAN YOU CHIME
IN HERE? >> TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT
YOU'RE ASKING NOW, RIGHT. >> WELL, I BROUGHT THIS BACK FOR DISCUSSION AS IT RELATES TO YOUR REQUESTS --
>> YES. >> -- AND YOUR DISCUSSION. I AM -- BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A PROCEDURE.
>> LET ME HELP YOU. >> PLEASE DO.
>> MS. HEDGES SUGGESTED PERHAPS -- AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE COMMISSIONER CAN APPROVE FOR US TO BEGIN THE WORK AND WE BRING THE CHANGE ORDER BACK AFTER THE FACT --
>> I'M FINE WITH THAT. YOU GOT A $1.1 LLION PROJECT, THE GUY
-- >> THAT'S THE IDEAL SITUATION, OR THE OTHER OPTION IS WE HAVE THEM DO THE WORK AS IS, AND WE BRING IT BACK IN JANUARY FOR HIM TO COMPLETE THE OUTLAYERS.
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>> TWO MOBILIZATIONS. LET'S GET IT DONE ONE TIME, BRING THE CHANGE ORDER BACK. LOOK, THE GUY IS GOING TO HAVE SOME CONFIDENCE HERE. WE GOT A MILLION BUCKS INTO THIS THING. HE GETS PAID.
>> SO, MS. HEDGES, HE CAN APPROVE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CHANGE ORDER, AND WE CAN COMMUNICATE TO THE VENDOR TO BEGIN THE WORK, WE CAN BRING THE CHANGE ORDER BACK? THAT'S KIND OF PUTTING THE HORSE BEFORE THE CART, BUT 245 WOULD WORK BETTER
FROM THE CONSTRUCTION SIGN. >> MADAM CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS, MR. CHESS, BY NO MEANS DO I THINK THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO
EVER DO THIS, TO BE CLEAR. >> NEITHER DO I.
>> OF COURSE WE'RE -- ABSOLUTELY.
>> YES, MA'AM. I WOULD WANT HIM TO CONFIRM IN WRITING THAT HE'S COMFORTABLE WITH THAT PROCESS, BUT IF YOU TAKE A VOTE TO APPROVE THIS CHANGE WITH THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING, AND HE IS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, WITH THE MOTION INCLUDING THAT WE WILL BRING THIS BACK FOR A FORMAL CHANGE ORDER, I WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT WE CAN GET THAT ACCOMPLISHED.
>> I GOT A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. ONE, I THINK THE PRICE IS HIGH.
I THINK IT'S RIDICULOUSLY HIGH, BUT I'M NOT OUT THERING IT AND DOING THE MEASUREMENTS AND ALL THAT. WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR
40U67 OF THIS NOW, 32 OR THE 14? >> 14.
>> 32 IS SITTING IN SOME ACCOUNT SOMEWHERE THAT WE'VE RECEIVED ALREADY, OR WE GOT TO GET IT FROM THE STATE?
>> NO, THAT'S A PART OF THE GRANT, AND I THINK A PORTION OF IT HAS ALREADY BEEN UTILIZED BY THE PURCHASE OF THE PAVERS FOR
THIS PARTICULAR DESIGN. >> WE'VE PURCHASED THESE
ALREADY. >> YOU'VE PURCHASED THE PAVERS
FOR THIS DESIGN THAT'S HERE. >> YEAH.
>> BUT YOU'RE WANTING HIM TO GO ALL THE WAY OUT HERE.
>> THAT'S MY SUGGESTION TO THIS BOARD IS THAT I'M JUST LOOKING AT THIS FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF HAVING HAD EYES ON THIS THING, THIS IS THE PERFECT AREA FOR, LIKE, RECEPTION USE, COCKTAIL HOUR USE, THAT TYPE OF THING. THIS CIRCUITOUS ROUTE OF A NICE WALKING PATH AROUND THE TREE IS WONDERFUL, BUT IT'S NOT FUNCTIONAL. I'M SUGGESTING GOING ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE
>> MS. HEDGES. >> THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO.
>> ONE RED FLAG THAT I WOULD RAISE IS I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF HAS REVIEWED THIS. IDON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS KIND OF IN THAT PROCESS. USUALLY WITH A CHANGE ORDER, IT WOULD GO THROUGH ENGINEERING, BUILDING TO LOOK AT TO MAKE SURE THE PROPOSAL AND THE COST WAS APPROPRIATE. SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT HAS
HAPPENED YET. >> MS. MOORE, DO YOU THINK
THAT'S HAPPENED YET? >> NO. STAFF HAS NOT LOOKED AT THE 14,036, NO. IT WAS ORIGINALLY $16,000, AND I ASKED HIM TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN, AND HE LOOKED AT IT AGAIN AND RESUBMITTED, AND IT'S DOWN TO 14 AS IT RELATES TO THE EXPANSION, NOT THIS CURRENT BECAUSE THE CURRENT HAS ALREADY
BEEN APPROVED. >> I SEE. OKAY. NOW I GET IT. SO WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS WE DON'T WANT TO DO TWO MOBILIZATIONS. WE DON'T WANT HIM TO COME IN AND INSTALL THIS AND COME BACK AND INSTALL THE REST, BECAUSE WE MAY TEAR UP THE PERIMETER TO INSTALL ALL THE BRICKS. I'M SAYING WE DO IT ONE TIME, IF WE CAN APPROVE THAT NOW AND YOU GUYS SORT OUT THE PAPERWORK ON THIS AND BRING IN THE FINAL CHANGE ORDER, I'M FINE WITH THAT. WE GOT A $14,000 EXPENDITURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO INCUR. AND I THINK THE DESIGN PARAMETER NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY THIS BOARD, BUT I'M SUGGESTING JUST GOING ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE BOUNDARY GIVES US THE CAPACITY TO HAVE RECEPTIONS THERE, YOU KNOW, COMPANY EVENTS THERE, THAT TYPE OF THING, THEY CAN HAVE OUTDOOR SPACE, INDOOR SPACE. I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS VERY FUNCTIONAL THAT WAY, AS MUCH AS I LIKE THE WALKING PATH IDEA, AND IT'S ATTRACTIVE AND ALL THAT, I DON'T THINK THE FUNCTIONALITY IS THERE FOR WHAT MY THOUGHT PROCESS WAS WHEN I
OBSERVED IT. >> SO LET ME MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. SO YOU'RE SAYING THIS SPACE OUTSIDE OF THE LOOP AREA, YOU SAY FILL ALL THAT IN WITH PAVERS?
>> YES. >> IT'S KIND OF A SQUARE AS OPPOSED TO THIS MEANDERING THING.
>> LIKE A PATIO. >> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS, IT'S A PATIO. AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF LANDSCAPE BUFFER AROUND THE PERIMETER, SOME HEDGES OR WHATEVER, JUST TO PUT SOME GREEN IN THERE.
>> RIGHT NOW THEY STAKED OUT THE FENCE BECAUSE THERE'S A
>> BROUGHT IRON FENCE THAT'S GOING TO BOUNDARY THE PROPERTY,
SO THERE'LL BE A FENCE THERE. >> IT STILL NEEDS SOME WORK THERE. GUYS, I'M FEELING A LITTLE UNEASY, AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHY. WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT THIS AND LAY OUT AND DISCUSS THIS BECAUSE RIGHT NEXT TO THIS IS THE BUILDING THAT WE HAVE PURCHASED, AND WE'VE NOT HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT. AND IT'S GOING TO FACTOR IN TO EITHER THE EXPANSION AND EVEN GIVE MORE PATIO CORPORATE SPACE FOR FUNCTIONING, AS WELL AS THE PARK THAT'S LITERALLY NEXT TO IT.
>> CURTIS, I'VE BEEN BACK THERE, AND I'VE BEEN --
>> I HAVE TOO. >> IT'S ASPHALT BACK THERE. IF WE END UP TEARING IT UP, WE'RE NOT GOING TO AFFECT THE AREA WE'RE WORKING IN NOW, IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE AREA TO THE
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WEST. THAT'S GOING TO BE DEMOED OUT ANYWAY. THAT'S NOT GOING TOAFFECT THIS INSTALLATION. >> YOU'RE RIGHT, COMMISSIONER.
BUT THE CONDITION ITSELF AND THE CONDITION OF THAT BUILDING, IF IT'S RAISED, THAT GIVES US MORE SPACE, THEN WHAT DO WE DO? THEN THERE'S A WROUGHT IRON FENCE THERE, HOW DO WE ATTACH IT? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE TECHNICALLY THINKING ABOUT ATTACHING IT TO THE BUILDING THAT'S PHYSICALLY THERE.
>> WE CAN ADD ON TO THAT WHEN THE TIME COMES. THAT'S A WAYS DOWN THE ROAD. I'M SAYING GET THIS PORTION DONE NOW, GET THE OPENING DONE, GET IT FUNCTIONING AND OPERATIONAL BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF INPUT THAT'S GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE WITH THAT OTHER
>> COMMISSIONER GAINES. >> $14,000 IS FOR THE PAVER
>> THE EXPANSION IS FOR THE AREA SURROUNDING THIS PATH, ALL THIS
AREA HERE. >> THE PATH IS $32,000.
>> OH, I SEE. >> WE'RE THROWING IN ANOTHER 14
TO EXPAND IT TO THE BOUNDARIES. >> OKAY.
>> MAKE IT NOT A PATH BUT A PATIO BASICALLY.
>> OKAY. >> FROM A CONSTRUCTION STANDPOINT, I DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE ADJACENT
AREA. >> WELL, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I DO. IT'S MY OPINION, BUT I DO. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO RUN INTO SOME STUFF. BUT RIGHT NOW LET'S FOCUS ON THIS, AND I THINK THAT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT EXPANSION, IT'S CLEAR TO ME NOW, 14,000 TO COLOR THIS IN SO IT'S ALL SQUARE.
>> LIKE A SQUARE, YES, SIR. >> AND THAT'S HIS ESTIMATE TO DO
THAT? >> HOW LONG HAS HE HAD THIS
IDEA? >> THIS WAS APPROVED BACK --
>> NO, BUT I MEAN THE EXPANSION. >> THE EXPANSION OF COMMISSIONER
>> MADE THE SUGGESTION, AND SO HE ASKED FOR AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT
IT WOULD COST. >> OKAY. OKAY. OKAY.
>> $14,000 MORE. >> I'M -- I'D BE FOR THE IMPROVEMENT. THAT AREA HAS MORE OF A USE THEN. I MEAN, IT HAS USE WITH THE PATH TOO. IT'LL HAVE USE WITH THE PATH TOO, BUT IT COULD ALSO BECOME A FUNCTION -- IT'S A LITTLE -- IT ADDS FLEXIBILITY FOR A FUNCTION AREA, I THINK.
>> I CAN SEE THAT. BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH IS
>> SO WHAT CAN WE DO TONIGHT ABOUT SETTING A PRECEDENT --
>> AND THE ISSUE FOR ME, I MEAN, I STILL FEEL LIKE -- IF HE STARTED THAT PROJECT TODAY, IT WILL GO FROM THE -- IF YOU ADD 11 DAYS TO IT, SO YOU'RE TALKING AROUND JANUARY THE 10TH OR SOMETHING. SO IF WE WERE TO GET THIS APPROVED AT THE FIRST BOARD MEETING IN JANUARY, AND WE ADDED, SAY, 41 DAYS TO THAT -- BECAUSE THE OPENING IS FEBRUARY THE 20TH, WHEN IS THE OPENING?
>> FEBRUARY 20TH IS WHAT I HEARD.
>> IN MY MIND, I THINK THERE'S ENOUGH TIME, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW WITH CONSTRUCTION, RIGHT? THAT'S THE KEY IN MY MIND. I THINK IF WE WENT TO THE FIRST BOARD MEETING IN JANUARY AND HAD THIS ALL WORKED OUT, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE THE PROPER WAY TO DO IT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE CHANGE ORDER BEFORE YOU, WE CAN GO BACK TO THE VENDOR. AND I STILL THINK IT'S TIME TO DO THAT, BUT I DON'T HAVE BIG ANGST OF US DOING IT LIKE THIS, BUT I DON'T
WANT THIS TO BE A NORM FOR US. >> RIGHT.
>> YOU DO IT ONE TIME, AND YOU THINK YOU CAN DO IT AGAIN. SO
MAYBE WE CAN SPEAK TO -- >> LOOK, IF YOU GUYS AREN'T COMFORTABLE, FINE, LET'S GET IT FORMALIZED. WHAT DID HE SAY,
IT'S 11 DAYS OF CONSTRUCTION? >> 11 DAYS. I CAN'T SAY IT'S TAKING TWO MONTHS. I MEAN, I WANT US TO REACH OUT TO THE
VENDOR. >> EXCUSE ME. I WAS JUST FACTORING IN THE REVIEW, THE PROCESS AND THEN GETTING --
>> WE HAVE TO HAVE IT PUBLICLY NOTICED --
>> YES. >> -- IF IT'S ON AN AGENDA.
>> IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET IT BEFORE THE COMMISSION FOR THE
FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY? >> IF WE GET A CHANGE ORDER, WE CAN HAVE IT REVIEWED THIS WEEK. IT'S NOT A PROBLEM TO REVIEW A
CHANGE ORDER ONCE WE GET IT. >> WHAT ABOUT YOUR ADVERTISING?
>> IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE SPECIALLY ADVERTISED. THE FPRA MEETING IS GOING TO BE JANUARY THE 14TH.
>> THE ONLY OTHER OPTION -- >> YES, MA'AM.
>> -- WE HAVEN'T HAD IN A WHILE WOULD BE A SPECIAL MEETING, IF YOU WANT TO CALL THAT SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS.
>> OVER THE HOLIDAYS TOO. >> YES, MA'AM.
>> FOR PAVER BRICKS. >> THAT DOES REQUIRE
ADVERTISING. >> THAT WOULD REQUIRE EXTRA WORK, BUT JUST THROWING ALL THE OPTIONS OUT THERE.
>> WHAT I'M SAYING IS I THINK THAT WE CAN HAVE -- CRAFT EMOTION TONIGHT TO SAY WHAT WE WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN AND IT
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EXPEDITED AND THEN TRY TO DO THE BEST WE CAN, AND IN THE UNLIKELY EVENT WE HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING, WE HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING. THAT WOULD BE THE LAST POSSIBLE -- LAST DITCHEFFORT. WHAT DO YOU THINK? >> MADAM CHAIR, I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE SPECIAL MEETING BECAUSE IF THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO -- BECAUSE I WANT TO DO IT RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> MY MAJOR CONCERN RIGHT NOW IS -- AND IT'S JUST ME, IF WE DO THIS THIS WAY NOW, SOME OTHER DEVELOPER IS GOING TO COME IN AND SAY YOU DID IT FOR THAT PROJECT, BUT YOU WON'T DO IT FOR MINE.
>> BUT THIS IS OUR OWN PROJECT. >> I UNDERSTAND. IT'S OUR OWN PROJECT. THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT I'M HESITANT ABOUT. BUT JUST FOR MY CLARIFICATION, $32,000 IS FOR THE --
>> PATH. >> -- PATH, AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS MOTION FOR NOW IS TO HAVE THEM GO OUT THERE
AND DO -- MAKE IT A SQUARE. >> YEAH. ANOTHER $14,000.
>> SO INSTEAD OF THE PATH, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT A SQUARE,
>> SO IS THE PATH ALREADY CREATED?
>> PU THE PAVERS HAVE BEEN BOUGHT FOR THE PATH.
>> AND THE AREA HAS -- WAS GRADED TODAY. WELL, YESTERDAY.
>> IF AWDRIA GOES BACK AND TELL HIM IT'S IN THE PROCESS OF BEING APPROVED, HE'S GOING TO GO OUT AND ORDER THE MATERIALS IMMEDIATELY, I WOULD ASSUME, SO HE'S GETTING THE SAME DROP AS HE'S GETTING FOR THESE MATERIALS.
>> OKAY. SO -- >> WELL, I THINK TOO WE'RE SAYING ON THE RECORD THAT THIS IS A VERY, VERY EXCEPTIONAL CASE. MR. CHESS IS SAYING THAT HE DOESN'T WANT TO DO THIS ANY MORE OFTEN THAN WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO. THIS IS OUR OWN
PROJECT, RIGHT? >> ABSOLUTELY. BUT I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, WE DON'T WANT TO MOBILIZE TWICE, I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND IT'LL CAUSE MORE HEADACHES AS WELL.
>> ALL RIGHT. SO MADAM ATTORNEY --
>> HOW CAN WE MAKE THE MOTION? >> I'M SORRY, BUT YOU OVER THERE. I NEED SOME GUIDANCE HERE ON HOW WE MAKE THIS -- HOW WE MAKE THIS MOTION SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT WORK.
>> WOULD IT BE -- WOULD IT BE A MOTION IF WE DID THAT AND PUT CONDITIONS ON IT? I THINK WE GOT CONDITIONS THAT NEED TO BE MET,
RIGHT? >> AN ACCEPTABLE CHANGE ORDER.
>> THEN HE AGREES -- WE AGREE ON THE ACCEPTABLE CHANGE ORDER UP
TO, WHAT, $14,000? >> YEAH. I'M SURPRISED WE'VE
BEEN GIVEN UP TO THAT, YEAH. >> $14,036.40. WE'LL GO
$14,000. >> GOOD. I'M GLAD YOU'RE TELLING US. $36, MAKING THE 14400 FOUR.
>> ROUND IT OFF TO $14,040. >> IS THERE ANY CONDITION ON THE PRICE THAT WE SHOULD BE AWARE, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE
CONDITIONALLY? >> ONE MOBILIZATION. I DON'T WANT TO -- AND WHAT'S THE TURN AROUND TIME TO GET IT DONE, 10
>> SO DOES THAT LINE UP TO WHAT HE'S ALREADY SCHEDULED TO FINISH WITH THE WALKING PATH, THIS HERE?
>> YES, SIR. >> SO I THINK THAT SHOULD BE A
>> WHENEVER HE'S COMPLETED THAT, WE GET THE COMPLETION OF THIS, RIGHT? BECAUSE HE'S ALREADY SCHEDULED TO FINISH THIS
IN -- >> HE'S SCHEDULED TO FINISH THIS, YES, SIR, BY THE END OF THIS MONTH, ACTUALLY, DECEMBER
30TH. >> AND SO I'M ASKING IF WE PUT A CONDITION -- IF WE ADD THIS EXTRA $14,000, WILL THAT ALSO COMPLETE THE WHOLE PROJECT BY THE END OF THE MONTH?
>> YES, IT WOULD, BUT HE HAS TO AGREE THAT HE'S WILLING TO --
>> BUY THE PAVERS TOO. >> -- BEGIN THE PROJECT --
>> THAT'S THE QUESTION I WAS ASKING.
>> -- BEFORE RECEIVING OFFICIAL --
>> APPROVAL. >> -- APPROVAL. THANK YOU.
>> I WANT TO BE CLEAR. >> YES, SIR.
>> SO THIS 11 DAYS IS NOT GOING TO BE TACKED ON TO DECEMBER 30TH. YOU MEAN THAT IT WAS APPROVED TODAY, WITH THE EXTRA $14,000 TAKING IT ALL OUT TO THE PERIMETERS, EVERYTHING WILL BE
DONE BY DECEMBER 30TH? >> YES, SIR.
>> THE ENTIRE THING. >> I THOUGHT IT WAS AN ADDITIONAL 11 DAYS. THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO BE CLEAR BECAUSE THAT'S A CONDITION THAT WOULD BE PART OF A MOTION THAT I'M
LOOKING TO BRING IS THAT -- >> I'M GOING TO SUGGEST WE GIVE HIM AN EXTRA 10 DAYS. HE COMES BACK AND SAY I CAN'T FINISH IT
BY DECEMBER 30TH -- >> I DO TOO BECAUSE YOU HAVE -- BECAUSE WE ARE UNDERSTANDING THAT HE'S GOING TO AGREE TO THIS BECAUSE WE'VE WORKED WITH HIM. BUT THIS IS NOT LIKE THE HARD AND FAST APPROVAL. BUT WE'RE PUTTING CONDITIONS ON IT,
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YEAH. YEAH. SO I WOULD BUILD IN SOME TIME. I WOULD BUILD IN SOME>> SO WE HAVE A TIME FRAME NOW OF AN ADDITIONAL 10 DAYS. SO I MOVE THAT WE EXTEND AN OFFER WITH THE CONDITION OF THE STATED ADDITION TO THIS PROJECT OF $14,000 MAXIMUM --
>> $14,040. >> $14,040 MAXIMUM FOR THE ADDITIONAL PAVERS TO ADD FOR THIS, ALSO WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE PROJECT BE COMPLETED WITH AN EXTENSION OF 10 DAYS BEYOND THE CONDITION DATE THAT HE'S CURRENTLY SCHEDULED TO COMPLETE, SO IT GIVES HIM 10 ADDITIONAL DAYS, AND UPON HIS ACCEPTANCE OF THE ACTUAL CHANGE ORDER, THAT WOULD BE INITIATED THAT ALL OF THESE CONDITIONS WILL BE IN, AND HE WOULD AGREE TO THAT, AND WE AGREE TO PAY HIM $14,040 FOR THE ADDITION OF
THESE PAVERS FOR THIS AREA. >> UP TO MAYBE? UP TO $14,040?
>> $14,040. >> PUT THAT IN THAT THAT IS OUT
TO THE -- >> THE PERIMETER, RIGHT.
>> SITE PLAN. >> AND THE THIRD CONDITION IS THAT THIS COMPLETES THE ENTIRE RECTANGULAR SQUARE AREA OUT TO THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PROPERTY. SO THOSE ARE THE THREE
CONDITIONS. >> I'LL SECOND THAT.
>> TO THE FENCE? >> TO THE FENCE, YES, MA'AM, TO
THE FENCE. >> ARE WE COVERING OUR BASES
HERE? >> MADAM CHAIR, AND THAT A WRITTEN CHANGE ORDER WILL FOLLOW.
>> OKAY. A FOURTH CONDITION THAT A WRITTEN CHANGE ORDER BE -- AND A FIFTH CONDITION IS THAT IT'S APPROVED BY STAFF ATTORNEY AND STAFF BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE TO BRING A CONTRACT TO US, RIGHT?
>> YES, SIR. >> SO IT'S FIVE CONDITIONS.
>> THE FIVE CONDITIONS? >> YEAH, I GOT IT.
>> AWEDREIA, DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON? MR. CHESS, ARE
WE GOOD WITH THIS? >> YES, MA'AM.
>> GOOD. GIVE STAFF THE LEEWAY, AND WITH THE FIVE CONDITIONS THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH, AND IF THOSE FIVE CONDITIONS ARE MET, I DON'T THINK WE WILL HAVE ANY PROBLEM MOVING THE CONTRACT FORWARD. IT'S $14,040, IT'S AN EXTENSION OF 10 ADDITIONAL DAYS ON TOP OF THAT. IT'S -- WITH STAFF'S APPROVAL, THE CONTRACT THAT'S DRAFTED BY THERE. IT'S HIS ACCEPTANCE OF THE CHANGE
ORDER AT THE AMOUNT, I THINK -- >> AND THE PRESENTATION.
>> AND THE PRESENTATION TO US AND APPROVAL. HE'LL GET $14,040. AND TO THE EXTENSION OF THE BRICK PAVERS TO SQUARE OFF THESE BOUNDARIES TO THE FENCE AND FILL IT IN.
>> SO COMMISSIONERS, ARE WE COMFORTABLE IN WHAT WE'RE
VOTING ON? YES? >> I'M COMFORTABLE NOW.
>> AND WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND, CORRECT?
>> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK SECONDED. ARE YOU READY TO VOTE?
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK.
>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.
>> YES, MA'AM. >> CHAIRWOMAN HUDSON.
>> YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE NEVER DOING THIS AGAIN.
RIGHT. >> NEXT WE HAVE STAFF COMMENTS.
[10. BOARD COMMENTS]
>> AND YOU'RE GOOD TOO? >> YES, MA'AM.
>> ANY OTHER STAFF MEMBER HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? ANY OTHER -- GO AHEAD. IT'S BOARD COMMENTS. ARE WE READY FOR BOARD COMMENTS? ANY BOARD MEMBER HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? PRELIMINARY INSPECTION OF THE SUNRISE THEATER BUILDING, AND THERE'S DEFINITIVELY SOME STUCCO DELAMBINNATION RELATED TO ROOF ISSUES, ET CETERA. SO I THINK THE COURSE OF ACTION THAT WE DISCUSSED AT OUR PRIOR MEETING RELATIVE TO SECURING OR PUTTING OUT OUR PIECE FOR RESTORATION OF THE INTERIOR -- IT'S NOT A RESTORATION PROJECT, IT'S MAINTENANCE. IT'S NOT AT THE POINT OF MEETING RESTORATION. SO IT NEEDS REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE. AND THE ROOF I'M SAYING IS SUSPECT. WE NEED A FIRM TO COME OUT AND INSPECT THIS THING AND SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. IF IT'S SALVAGEABLE OR HAS ANY REMAINING LIFE IN THE ROOF, I TEND TO THINK IT DOESN'T, BASED ON THE AGE. BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE WOULD HAVE SOME TYPE OF EXPERT COME OUT AND INSPECT IT AND SEE WHAT'S UP. BECAUSE I ASSURE YOU WE HAVE WATER LEAKING DOWN, THE INTERIOR CONCRETE BLOCK WHICH MEANS IF WE PUT THAT BEAUTIFUL MURAL UP THERE, WE'LL HAVE PIECES OFF OF IT PEOPLE ARE TAKING HOME AS SOUVENIRS AS IT'S DROPPING IN THE PARKING LOT. I THINK AT THE LAST MEETING OR THE MEETING BEFORE IS A SOUND APPROACH, AND I JUST THINK WE NEED TO GET
GOING ON IT. >> 20 YEARS, IS THAT HOW OLD THE
ROOF IS? >> THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD.
>> BECAUSE I THINK THE THEATER REOPENED IN 2005.
>> IT'S ITS USEFUL LIFE, 15 TO 20 YEARS ON A FLAT ROOF LIKE THAT IS ABOUT ALL YOU'RE GOING TO GET.
>> SO IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN EMBARK ON TO FIND OUT WHAT THAT
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>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. >> IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN
EXPENSIVE -- >> OH, DEAR. THE THING HAS AGED.
>> IT DID AGE, AND WE LIVE IN A COASTAL CITY. MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO HAVE A DISCUSSION IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY, FUTURE FPRA MEETING ABOUT THE FURTHER DEVELOPMENT OF HIGHWAYMEN, I'M GOING TO CALL IT PARK, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO GET IN TO A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ADJACENT BUILDING AND THE LINEAR
PARK THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THAT. >> GOOD IDEA.
>> AND THEN I THINK I'D LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION REGARDING THE -- I'M GOING TO CALL IT MEANS COURT, THE OLD MEANS COURT
BUILDING. >> IT'S CALLED MEANS COURT
CENTER. >> YEAH. LET'S HAVE A DISCUSSION AND GET AN UPDATE AS TO WHERE WE ARE AND THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO AND THE CONVERSATION WE NEED TO HAVE ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THERE.
>> GOOD IDEA. AND ALSO I'D LIKE AT SOME POINT TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE WITH THE SUNRISE THEATER, THE OUTSIDE FIRM AND WHERE WE
ARE. >> CLOSE TO FINALIZING THAT.
>> OKAY. THAT'S -- OKAY. >> SPEAKING OF THAT, WE ALSO GOTTA GET THE TRANSFER OF THAT PROPERTY, THE CITY OF FORCE PIERCE TO FPRA, OKAY? SHYANNE IS SHAKING HER HEAD YES. IS THERE A CLOSING TIMELINE ON THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE HIGHWAY MUSEUM?
>> WE DISCUSSED THAT, AND IT WAS PROPOSED WE DO AN INSPECTION -- NOT TO DO AN INSPECTION, BUT THEN IT WAS PROPOSED BY AN OUTSIDE ATTORNEY TO DO AN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY. I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE I THOUGHT I HEARD BACK IN THE DAY THERE WAS A RESTAURANT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S CONTAMINATION DOWN THERE. SO I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO DO THE ENVIRONMENTAL, BUT SINCE WE'RE DOING THE ENVIRONMENTAL, WE MIGHT AS WELL DO AN INSPECTION AT NO ADDITIONAL COST. I WASN'T GOING TO INSPECT THE BUILDING, I WAS GOING TO RAISE IT. I'M ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT BUYING PROPERTY, BECAUSE IF THERE IS CONTAMINATION THERE, IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE PURCHASE PRICE. SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO DO THAT. SO WE DISCUSSED THAT, AND WE WANT -- AND MS. HEDGES IS GOING TO WORK WITH AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT TO WORK ON GETTING THE ENVIRONMENTAL DONE WITH US, AS WELL AS THE INSPECTION.
>> DO WE KNOW IF IT'S A PHASE 1, PHASE 2?
>> MADAM CHAIR, BOARD MEMBER BRODERICK, IT'S AN ISSUE IF THERE IS FOR A PHASE 2. I DID SEND THE MOST RECENT VERSION OF THE CONTRACT TO MR. CHESS AND MS. HARNAGE THIS WEEK OR LAST WEEK SO WE CAN MEET TO DISCUSS. BUT IT ALLOWS FOR BASICALLY 60 DAYS FOR INSPECTION FOR ENVIRONMENTALS, AND THEN IF WE NEED TO EXTEND IT FOR A PHASE 2, IT HAS THAT BUILT INTO IT. SO WE ALMOST HAVE THAT PURCHASE AND SALE AGREEMENT IN FINAL FORM.
>> OKAY. >> ON THE CONDITION THAT THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT -- IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S COMPLETELY DONE.
>> AS LONG AS THERE ISN'T A GAS STATION BEFORE. THAT'S A
SERIOUS ISSUE. >> IT WAS THERE BEFORE?
>> IT WAS A RESTAURANT. >> IT WAS A RESTAURANT?
>> BARBER SHOP. NICE TO GET MY HAIR CUT THERE.
>> SO ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBER HAVE
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