[A. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Review and Approval of an application for Major Site Plan (Development & Design Review), submitted by property owner, Lawnwood Medical Center, Inc. and Representative Vanessa Mahoney, of Kimley-Horn, to construct a five-floor parking garage with surface parking, the parking garage grossing an approximate 50,432 square feet footprint and surface parking grossing 34,866 square feet with associated site improvements at 1700 S 23rd Street, Fort Pierce, FL. The property is zoned Planned Development (PD). Parcel ID: 2416-504-0200-000-2. ]

OUT OF THE WAY. >> MOVING ON TO PUBLIC HEARINGS WE HAVE THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF AN APPLICATION FOR MAJOR SITE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTED BY PROPERTY OWNER LAWNWOOD MEDICAL CENTER, INC. AND REPRESENTATIVE VANESSA MAHONEY OF KIPLEY HORN TO CONSTRUCT A FIVE-FLOOR PARKING GARAGE WITH SURFACE PARKING THE PARKING GARAGE

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GROSSING AN APPROXIMATE 50,432 SQUARE FEET FOOTPRINT AND SURFACE PARKING GROSSING 34,866 SQUARE FOOT WITH ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS AT 1700 SOUTH 23RD STREET FORT PIERCE,

FLORIDA THE PROPERTY IS ZONED PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PD. >> SO THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING ANDS MR. HEDGES WOULD YOU OUTLINE THE PROCESS FOR US, PLEASE.

>> THE CITY COMMISSION SERVES LEGISLATIVE AND QUASI-JUDICIAL ROLL THE COMMISSION ENGAGES IN LAWMAKING ACTIVITY BY PASSING LAWS AND ESTABLISHING POLICIES. WHEN ACTING AS A QUASI-JUDICIAL BODY IT'S HELD TO DISTRICTER PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS. QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS ARE LESS FORMAL THAN PROCEEDINGS BEFORE A CIRCUIT COURT, BUT ARE MORE FORMAL THAN THE NORMAL COMMISSION MEETING. QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS MUST FOLLOW BASIC STANDARDS OF NOTICE AND YOU GOO PROCESS AND DECISIONS MUST BE IMMEDIATE BASED ON COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AND THEREFORE, A DUTY TO CONDITION DUCT HEARINGS MORE LIKE JUDGES THAN LIMORS AND ESTABLISHED THE UNIFORM PROCEDURES THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED THIS EVENING. FINALLY NO ONE SHOULD APPROACH ANY MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION ON THE DAIS. THE CITY ATTORNEY OR THE CITY CLERK DURING THE HEARING. IF THE DOCUMENTS -- IF DOCUMENTS ARE TO BE GIVEN TO THE CITY CLERK, PLEASE GIVE THEM TO THE SERGEANT-AT-ARMS WHICH ARE ANY OF THE POLICE OFFICERS IN THE

COMPLIANCE WITH ADVERTISING AND NOTICE REQUIREMENTS? >> YES, MA'AM, THE ADVERTISING

RICHARDS HAVE BEEN MET. >> WOULD YOU ASK COMMISSIONERS ABOUT EX-PARTE COMMUNICATION.

>> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK? >> KNOW. >> COMMISSIONER ZADOSKY?

>> NO. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES? >> NO, MA'AM.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? >> NO, MA'AM. >> MAYOR HUDSON.

>> NO, MA'AM. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SWEAR GOODWILL THE WITNESSESMENT ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUDGE AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUDGE. THANK YOU. PROCEED.

>> GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS VENICE GILLMOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION PLANNER. THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU IS FOR A MAJOR SITE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DESIGN REVIEW FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1700 SOUTH 23RD STREET, PARCEL I.D.

2414-054-0200-000-2. PROJECT NO. PZ SITE 2025-00025. THE OWNER IS LAWNWOOD MEDICAL CENTER, INC. REPRESENTATIVE VANESSA MAHONEY AND KIMLEY-HORN. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO CONSTRUCT A FIVE-FLOOR PARKING GARAGE, WITH SURFACE PARKING THE PARKING GARAGE GROSSING APPROXIMATELY 50,432 SQUARE FEET AND SURFACE PARKING GROSSING 34,866 SQUARE FEET WITH ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS. THE SITE AREA CONSISTS OF 3.44 PLUS OR MINUS ACRES OF THE ENTIRE SITE OF 22.36 ACRES. THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE INSTITUTIONAL. WITH THE CURRENT ZONING OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZONE. THIS IS THE OVERALL PD PHASE 1 CONCEPT PLAN, THE MASTER PLAN. THERE WERE FIVE SUBPHASE AS PROVED WITH THE FOLLOWING: PHASE 1 CONSTRUCTION OF THE 3-STORY MEDICAL TOWER. PHASE 23, A THIRD-FLOOR SHELL BUILD-OUT WITH AN EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT ADDITION TO THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE HOSPITAL. PHASE 3 A FOURTH FLOOR ADDITION TO THE MEDICAL TOWER. PHASE 4 A 5TH FLOWER ADDITION TO THE MEDICAL TOWER AND THIS WILL BE THE LAST OF THE MASTER PLAN, WHICH IS PHASE 5 A PARKING STRUCTURE. THIS IS THE FINAL PHASE 1 SITE PLAN.

THE ONE STRUCTURE PARKING GARAGE, PFEIFFER FLOORS, APPROXIMATELY ACTUALLY 591 PARKING SPACES. 109 SURFACE PARKING SPACES. 10 DEDICATED ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING SPACES AND FOUR ADA-COMPLIANT SURFACE PARKING SPACES. AND FOR YOUR REFERENCE, THIS IS IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER. THE ELEVATIONS OF THE PROPOSED PARKING GARAGE AS YOU CAN SEE SHOWING ALL ELEVATIONS NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST. AND THIS IS OUR RENDERING TO SHOW YOU BETTER LOOK OF HOW IT WILL LOOK . ED NEW PARK GARAGE IS CONSTRUCTED PRIMARILY OF

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ARCHITECTURAL PRE-CAST CONCRETE. THE TOTAL GARAGE HIGHLIGHT IS APPROXIMATELY 58.6 PLUS OR MINUS THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT FOR THE PARCEL IS 50' FOR THE PARAPET AND ELEVATION AND STAIRS WILL GO TO 58.6. THE AESTHETICS MATCH THE NEWER PATIENT TOWER LOCATED ON THE CAMPUS. AND THE GARAGE WILL CONTAIN 3500-POUND TRACTION ELEVATORS. THIS IS PROPOSED LANDSCAPE OF THE SUBJECT SITE. AND THIS IS THE PLANNED SCHEDULE, WHICH INCLUDES SOUTHERN LIVE= , SHRUBS, KOKO PALMS, SMALL LEAF -- -- ALL AFFECTED DEPARTMENTS HAVE REVIEWED THE PROPOSED MAJOR SITE PLAN WITH REGARDS TO CONSISTENCY, WITH ESTABLISHED ORDINANCES AND REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY CODE, AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT STAFF HAS CREATED ARE THREE CONDITIONS.

ONE LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WILL BE REQUIRED AND APPROVED BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO FINAL CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. TWO, LANDSCAPE UNSPECTION WILL BE REQUIRED AND APPROVED BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO FINAL CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.

AND THREE, PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF ANY SITE CLEARING PERMITS THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE A TREE MITIGATION SURVEY AND COORDINATED WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE ARBORIST WITH CITY REGULATED TREE PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED AS THE SITE'S CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY.

PLANNING BOARD AT THEIR JANUARY 12, 2026 MEETING UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED SITE WITH THREE CONDITIONS: ALTERNATIVE RECOMMENDATIONS RECOMMENDED MODIFIED APPROVAL, DISAPPROVAL AND WITH THE THREE CONDITIONS, APPROVAL OF THE SITE PLAN WITH CHANGES OR DISAPPROVAL. AND I ALSO LIKE TO ADD THAT THE APPLICANT ALSO HAS A

PRESENTATION TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL. >> THANK YOU.

>> QUESTIONS OF STAFF, COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. >> WHAT ARE THE THREE

CONDITIONS? I DIDN'T SEE THOSE ON THE SLIDE? >> OH, RIGHT HERE. NO. 1 LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT REQUIRES AND APPROVED BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO FINAL CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. THE LANDSCAPE INSPECTION, AND TREE MITIGATION.

>> GOT IT. THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? >> MADAM MAYOR, I HAVE A QUESTION, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE WITH THE -- WHAT IS EGRESS/INGRESS WITH THIS PARKING FACILITY, AND ACCESS? IS IT COMING OFF OF -- I SEE HERE AND THINK IT'S GOING TO DO A GREAT JOB BRIGHTENING THE CORNER BASED ON LANDSCAPING, BUT HOW DO YOU ACCESS THIS

THING? >> QUINCY AVENUE AND ALSO. >> IT LOOPS AROUND, IS FROM A CUT-OFF OF QUINCY? 33RD IS THE MAIN ENTRY IS 33RD AND QUINCEY IS THE SECONDARY ENTRY.

>> GOT IT. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. THANK YOU. >> YOU HAVE QUESTIONS,

COMMISSIONER? >> JUST REAL QUICK, JUST FOR THE RECORD, SINCE THIS IS A QUASI, THE THREE CONDITIONS ARE THE SAME THREE CONDITIONS THAT THE PLANNING BOARD AGREED. YOU

SAID THE PLANNING BOARD HAD THREE AND WE HAD THREE. >> SAME ONES.

>> JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD. >> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE HANDICAPPED SPACES THAT OBVIOUSLY MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR -- AND THERE

ARE PROBABLY OTHER HANDICAPPED SPACES IN THE SURFACE PARKING? >> CORRECT. AND OTHER PARTS

OF THE DEVELOPMENT, CORRECT. >> YES, RIGHT. IT MEETS THE CODE FOR THAT?

>> SO THE NUMBER REQUIRED, CORRECT. >> YES, SIR?

>> JUST A QUESTION ABOUT FIRE THE EV STATIONS THAT WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF CHALLENGES WITH EV STATIONS AROUND THE COUNTRY, AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS NOT BEING ABLE TO MANAGE THEM AS QUICKLY OR, AS WELL AS THEY WOULD LIKE. IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR

THAT SECTION WHETHER IT WAS OR OTHER FIRE RETARDANTSCENARIO? >> I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING

FROM OUR FIRE DISTRIC. >> WELL, THEY HAD QUITE A FEW COMMENTS IN THE TRC SO THEY

HAVE LOOKED AT THIS. >> YES, AS FAR AS THE EV STATIONS I HADN'T SEEN ANYTHING.

>> ALL RIGHT. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ARE WE GOOD? OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE APPLICANT UP, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS VANESSA MAHONEY THE PROJECT

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MANAGER AND CIVIL ENGINEER WITH KIMLEY-HORN. WITH ME TODAY I HAVE ALEX MCMILLAN.

>> GOOD EVENING, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER AT FLORIDA LAWNWOOD HOSPITAL. THANK YOU

FOR HAVING US TODAY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> GOOD EVENING, I'M MATTHEW GRIFAGE THE PROJECT ARCHITECT, SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT FOR THE DESIGN SOLUTIONS WE'RE THE

ARCHITECTS AND INTERIOR DESIGNERS FOR THE PROJECT. >> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

DO ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? >> NO QUESTIONS AT THE MOMENT.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER ABOUT THE EV PARKING SPACES. SO WE DID COORDINATE WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO SUBMITTING, AND THEY REQUESTED THAT THE EV SPACES BE PLACED OUTSIDE OF THE PARKING GARAGE TO AVOID ANY KIND OF FIRE HAZARD. SO THEY ARE CURRENTLY ON THE SURFACE IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER OUTSIDE OF THE GARAGE.

>> THANK YOU, BECAUSE WHEN THEY BURN, THEY BURN HOT AND THERE'S NEW EQUIPMENT PRODUCED TODAY THAT SAVES WATER. WHEN EV GOES YOU USE AN AWFUL LOT OF WATER.

>> THANK YOU. >> WE HAD THE SAME CONCERN AND WHY IT'S ALL GOING TO BE

SURFACE PARKING. >> VERY GOOD. >> NOTHING WITHIN THE GARAGE.

>> THANK YOU. >> I DO WANT TO DEMOCRACY THIS PROJECT BEFORE THE TEAM SHOWS THIS PRESENTATION, AS YOU KNOW CITY OF FORT PIERCE TREASURE COAST IN GENER HAS GROWN SIGNIFICANTLY IN POPULATION. HOSPITAL IS TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THAT DEMAND. AND YOU KNOW, WE OPEN 62 BEDS LAST YEAR, AND HERE WE ARE HOLDSING TODAY IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM. WE HAVE ANOTHER 32 BEDS COMING ONLINE BY NEXT YEAR, TO TOP OFF THAT 5TH FLOWER TOWER. WITH THAT WE HAVE PARKING STRUGGLES. IT'S NOT JUST FOR OUR EMPLOYEES BUT OUR VISITORS OUR PATIENTS AND OUR COMMUNITY. WE HAVE THE ISSUE EXISTS ALREADY. THE COMPANY HAS SUPPORTED US IN THE SENSE THAT BEFORE EXPANDING ANY MORE, THE PARKING GARAGE WAS A CRITICAL COMPONENT TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE GROWING. AS A RESULT WE DID GET THIS FUNDING FROM THE COMPANY. AND THAT IS WHY WE SEEK APPROVAL TODAY. WE SEEK APPROVAL FOR NOT JUST THE PARKING GARAGE, BUT WE NEED TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION PARKING ALSO OFF-SITE FROM THE HOSPITAL. WE'RE CURRENTLY IN A PURCHASING -- SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH THE SELLER, WITH THE PROPERTY BEHIND THE HOSPITAL.

IT'S AN 8-ACRE PARCEL THAT USED TO BELONG OR BELONGED TO MAYFAIR. WE PLAN TO CLOSE ON THAT LAND NEXT MONTH. IF EVERYTHING FALLS IN LINE, THAT LAND WILL BE USED TEMPORARY FOR CONSTRUCTION PARK AND NOT JUST FOR CONSTRUTION WORKERS BECAUSE WEEDS HAVE OVER HUNDRED AT ANY GIVEN TIME BETWEEN THE 5TH FLOOR AND PARKING GARAGE, BUT FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT ARE LOSING THE 300 PLUS SURFACE PARKING THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS AS A RESULT JUST FOR THE LAY DOWN AREA. TODAY IS WHY WE SEEK APPROVAL. I WILL BRING YOU IN. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> PERFECT. >> PROCEED.

>> THANK YOU. SO I HAVE ALREADY INTRODUCED THE TEAM. AND THEN SOME HIGHLIGHTS FOR LAWNWOOD HOSPITAL HAS A HUGE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY AND ONLY LEVEL 2 TRAUMA FACILITY.

SO IT'S INCREDIBLE IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO SERVICE THE HOSPITAL THROUGH THIS PARKING GARAGE. AND THEN THERE'S A COUPLE MORE INSIGHTS FOR THE HOSPITAL. VENICE DID A GREAT JOB WITH THE PROJECT OFFICER AND IT'S APPROXIMATELY $26 MILLION. 591-SPACE PARKING GARAGE. WE ARE ALSO INCLUDING ENHANCED LANDSCAPING AS PART OF THE PROJECT. WE'RE INCLUDING A SCREENED ELECTRICAL YARD AND EMERGENCY GENERATOR, AND WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING THE RELOCATION OF AN EXISTING WATER LINE THAT CURRENTLY RUNS UNDERNEATH THE CURRENT PARKING GARAGE. IN TERMS OF FORM IS WATER, A CONCRETE BOX SYSTEM WILL SIT UNDERNEATH THE PARKING GARAGE.

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WE'RE SCHEDULED FOR THE FEBRUARY 19TH TRC REVIEW. SO THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY.

WE'RE GOING TO BE PROPOSING TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION PARK OVERFLOW STAFF PARKING AND MATERIAL STAGING AS WELL. A 7.75-ACRE SITE. SO IT'S PRETTY SIZACLE IN NATURE. THIS PARKING LOT WILL BE PAVED AND TEMPORARY LIGHTING PROVISION AND A FENCE AROUND THE SITE TO MAKE SURE IT'S SECURE. AND THEN THIS IS THE LAYOUT WE'RE PROPOSING. WE ARE GOING TO STRIPE IT. THERE ARE ARE GOING TO BE WHEEL STOP TO PROVIDE ORGANIZATION TO THE PARKING LOT, AND THERE'S AN EXISTING PAVED PARKING -- SORRY. ENTRANCE INTO THE PARKING LOT ALREADY. SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO REUSE THAT. AND JUST SO YOU GUYS ARE ORIENTED CORRECTLY, NORTH IS TO THE RIGHT, MY RIGHT. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MATTHEW; WHO IS --

>> CHAIR, BEFORE YOU GO ON? SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF SURFACE AREA THERE AND I SEE A CANAL OR SOME KIND OF DITCH. IS THAT WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO OFFDISCHARGE THE WATER FROM THE

PARKING LOT? >> IT'S GOING TO BE SELF-CONTAINED. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO JUST USE SURFACE RUN-OFF INTO THE NORTH PART WHERE IT'S GRASS WITH SWALES THAT PROVIDES TEMPORARY DETENTION FOR STORMWATER. AS PART OF THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT THERE IT WAS ALREADY INSTALLED THERE AND WE'LL REUSE THAT CONVEY STORMWATER INTO THE GRASSY AREAS. SO WE WON'T BE DISCHARGING INTO THE CANAL.

WE'LL BE SELF-CONTAINED. >> THANK YOU. >> MATTHEW WILL TALK ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURAL COMPONENTS OF THE PROJECT THANK YOU, VANESSA. AS YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN THIS 1ST PROPOSED RENDERING FOR THE PROJECT. THIS IS ACTUALLY A VIEW THAT FACES INTERNAL TO THE CAMPUS. SO AS YOU PULLING IN FROM THE MAIN CAMPUS DRIVE AND TURNING TOWARDS THE FACILITY, THIS IS YOUR MAIN FACADE. THE DESIGN INTENT OF THIS BUILDING IS REALLY IT COMPLIMENTS THE EXISTING CAMPUS FROM COLOR PALATE TO MATERIALS. THE BRICK WILL MATCH THAT BRICK. THE LIGHTER WHITISH BEIGE COLOR IS A PRE-CAST PANEL. THE METAL IN THE MIDDLE IS WHERE THE MAIN ENTRY TO THE PARKING GARAGE IS. THAT IS REALLY MEANT TO CALL OUT YOUR ATTENTION TO KNOW WHERE THE ENTRANCE IS. THAT IS A PERFORATED METAL PANEL TO GIVE DESIGN INTENT AND POP TO THE ENTRANCE THERE. AS WELL AS SOME GLAZING AT THE MAIN TOWER AND THE ELEVATOR TOWER. AGAIN, THAT IS THE VIEW THAT FACES INTERNAL TO THE CAMPUS. THE OTHER VIEW HERE, SO THIS WOULD BE A VIEW FROM THE CORNER OF 23RD AND QUINCEY ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE GARAGE. AN ENTRY EXIT POINT IN THE LOWER LEFT-HAND SIDE. AGAIN, THAT PERFORATED METAL PANEL USED AS A DESIGN INTENT TO MAKE THE ENTRANCE POP. IT WILL BE BRANDED WITH THE HCA FLORIDA LAWNWOOD SIGNAGE AND LOGO TO MATCH THE EXISTING LOGOS ON THE HOSPITAL IN A COUPLE OF STRATEGIC SPOTS ON THE BUILDING. AS I SAID, WE'RE NOT REINVENTING THE WHEEL. IT'S MEANT TO COMPLIMENT THE CAMPUS . THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.

>> AND I HAVE A QUESTION THAT MAY BE FOR YOU? IS THE PARKING GOING TO BE FREE IN THE GARAGE?

>> SO I WILL ANSWER THAT. SO THE PLAN RIGHT NOW IS TO PROBABLY MAKE IT A DEDICATED

EMPLOYEE PARKING GARAGE. >> OKAY. >> THAT WAY EMPLOYEES HAVE ONE

LOCATION AND EVERYTHING ELSE BECOMES SURFACE. >> OKAY.

>> IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE HOSPITAL FOR FOLKS TO WALK, BUT I WOULD RATHER HAVE THE EMPLOYEES WALK TO THE HOSPITAL AND THOSE THAT NEED TO COME AND VISIT THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS OR

LOVED ONES TO BE CLOSER TO THE HOSPITAL. >> MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU, SIR.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> AND LAST, BUT NOT LEAST WE HAVE THE PLANTING MATERIALS, SIMILAR TO THE ONES WITH THE PREVIOUS PROJECT THAT WE HAD GO IN FRONT OF YOU. SO THESE ARE THE TREESS AND PAMS AND SHRUBS TO ENHANCE THE OUTSIDE FACADE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO YOUR

TIME TODAY AND OPEN FOR QUESTIONS. >> WHO HAS QUESTIONS?

>> QUICK QUESTION. THE SIGN THAT IS FACING THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, OR SOUTH CORNER, WILL IT BE LIT AT NIGHT AND SEE THAT SIGN AT NIGHT? I THOUGHT SO. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

>> A LOT OF THOUGHT WENT INTO THAT DESIGN, ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT WHEN FOLKSES PARK IN THERE TO MAKE SURE IT'S WELL-FIT. WE'VE TONS OF CAMERAS THAT ARE ACTIVELY MODERNED AND PANIC BUTTONS AND SECURITY THERE, BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS A CONCERN AT NIGHT IS

STAFF'S SAFETY. >> YES. >> ABSOLUTELY. I THINK ANYBODY THAT HAS BEEN TO THE HOSPITAL TO SEE SOMEBODY KNOWS THAT YOU NEED A PARKING GARAGE.

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I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY FOR YOU AND VERY HAPPY YOU ARE HERE.

COMMISSIONER BRODERICK? >> AS SOMEONE WHO UNFORTUNATELY HAS SEEN THE INSIDE OF THE HOSPITAL MORE THAN I CARE TO ADMIT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, THE PARKING SITUATION THERE IS EXTREME. SO THE COMMITMENT OF THE ORGANIZATION TO DEDICATE THIS TYPE OF SOLUTION AND INVESTMENT INTO THE FORT PIERCE COMMUNITY, I APPLAUD YOU GUYS FOR DOING THIS. IF CERTAINLY IS NEEDED FOR YOUR OPERATIONAL PERSPECTIVE, BUT THE CONSUMERS OF YOUR SERVICES THERE, AND THEIR GUESTS, ET CETERA, ARE GOING TO BE VERY GRATEFUL THIS IS TAKING PLACE. SO THANK YOU FOR THE UNDERTAKING AND THANK YOU FOR THE CONTINUED

INVESTMENT IN THE CITY OF FORT PERCE. >> ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M GOING TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD, AND SHARE ANYTHING WITH US? SEEING NO MOVEMENT, I'M GOING TO CLOSE -- UNLESS

YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PARKWAY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. >> MAIMED MAYOR I MAKE A

MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> CONDITIONS?

WITH THE THREE CONDITIONS, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. >> SECOND.

>> CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK? >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER

>> YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> MAYOR HUDSON? >> YES, MA'AM. >> CONGRATULATIONS AND WE'RE

SO GLAD YOU ARE HERE. THANK YOU. >> NEXT WE HAVE ORDINANCE

[B. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 26-003 establishing the requirement for an annual fiscal audit and providing that any contract for audit services shall not exceed an initial term of three years, but may include an option to renew for two, one (1) year renewals; additionally it requires that the city shall appoint a new auditor at least every five years. FIRST READING]

26-003 AN ORDINANCE THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA, AMENDING CHAPTER 2 ADMINISTRATION ARTICLE 5 FINANCE TO CREATE SECTION 2-4-27 CITY AUDITING SERVICES TO REQUIRE AN ANNUAL AUDIT AND ESTABLISH HOW AN AUDITOR IS SELECTED. CONTRACTING REQUIREMENTS FOR ANG AUDITOR AND LIMITATIONS ON THE NUMBER OF YEARS AN AUDITOR MAY PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE CITY REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES, PARTS THEREOF AND CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS THE FIRST READING. THIS IS FIRST READING. MR. CHESS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? DO YOU

HAVE ANY PRESENTATION ON THIS? >> NO, I DON'T. THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS SIMPLY THAT WE HAVE ROTATING AUDITORS AT EVERY 3-5 YEARS TO GET A NEW SET OF EYES OUR BOOKS AT THE SAME TIME,

IT'S BEST PRACTICE. >> YOU WERE SHARING WITH ME THAT IS BEST PRACTICE IN FINANCE. SO ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS SUBJECT, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NO

MOVEMENT, I WILL COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR A MOTION. >> MADAM, MOVE APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION AND SECOND, CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

>> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK Y. >> COMMISSIONER DADOSKY.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER CAMPAIGNES? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> COMMISSIONER

[A. Resolution No. 26-R08 approving UA Resolution setting new rates for FPUANet (rate reduction)]

>> YES, MA'AM. >> RESOLUTION 26-R80 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF CITY OF THE FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA APPROVING RATE CHANGES FOR FPUANET SERVICES AS CONTAINED IN RESOLUTION NO. UA2026-06 ADOPTED BY THE FORT PIERCE UTILITIES AUTHORITY BOARD PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY

CONFLICT HERE WITH AND PROVIDING FOR AN ERVINGIVE DATE. >> MR. CHESS, DO YOU HAVE ANY

LEAD INTO THIS. >> MR. BROTHERFORD AND MR. MITTLER PRESENTING FROM FPUA.

>> WELCOME. HAPPY YOU ARE HERE. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> I HAVE HEARD THIS PRESENTATION, BUT I'M GLAD THE COMMISSION IS GOING TO HEAR IT.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHESS. GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR, CITY COMMISSIONERS. PER OUR CITY CHARTER ARTICLE 12 THE FORT PIERCE UTILITIES AUTHORITY ALL RATE CHANGES MUST BE APPROVED BY BOTH FPUA BOARD AND THE CITY COMMISSION. TONIGHT WE COME BEFORE YOU FOR THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION 26-R08 FOR THOSE NEW RATES, AS WELL AS TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE FIREWORK FIBTO HOME SOLUTION. FIBER IS RELATIVELY NEW TECHNOLOGY. SO NEW GOODBYER SO NEW, IN FACT, THE EFFICIENCIES IN CONSTRUCTION CONTINUE TO EMERGE, HELPING REDUCE CAPITAL COSTS WE HAVE INCOTSEREDED THESE EFFICIENCIES TO PASS THOSE SAVINGS TO THE CUSTOMERS.

THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE KEEP OUR PROMISE TO PROVIDE ECONOMICAL RELIABLE AND FRIENDLY SERVICE AS PART OF OUR ONGOING COMMITMENT TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR

COMMUNITY. AT THIS TIME JASON WILL PRESENT. >> MR. MILTLER.

>> DANIEL RUTHERFORD. >> THANK YOU, WE'RE TRYING TO GET -- WE'RE ALL LEARNING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. MITTLER. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHESS, MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, MY NAME IS JASON MITTLER, THE FPUANET MANAGER AND I AM EXCITED TO SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE PROGRESS THAT THE FPUANET TEAM HAS MADE AND

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I'M HERE TO REQUEST A RATE REDUCTION AND INTRODUCTION OF OUR FPUA NEXT NEW 5 GIGABIT PER SECOND TIER OF SERVICE FOR BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS. FPUANET IS THE 35TH UTILITY OF FPUA, AND WE ARE A SMART CITY INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER THAT PROVIDES FIBER SERVICES FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS. SINCE 2024 WE STARTED PROVIDING SERVICE TO RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS IN VARIOUS AREAS OF THE FORT PIERCE CITY. SO THE BROADBAND USES THE TERM "PARCELS PASSED." AS ANG INDUSTRY KPI AND DEFINE AS HAVING THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO THE HOME AND BUSINESS WITH A STANDARD SRVICE DROP WITHIN A FEW DAYS OF THEIR REQUEST. THE TOP RIGHT OF THE SLIDESHOWS THAT FPUANET CURRENTLY HAS A FIBER AVAILABLE TO 2748 PARCELS, AND THEY ARE SHOWN IN THE ORANGE SHADED AREAS. THE BLUE SHADED AREAS SHOW PARCELS IN CONSTRUCTION AND SHOULD BE ACTIVE IN THE NEXT 90 DAZE. THE PURPLE AREA SHADES IS CURRENTLY IN DESIGN, AND THE GREEN SHADED AREAS ARE STILL IN THE PLANNING STAGE. FINALLY THE CHART SHOWS THAT FPUANET IS ON TARGET TO DOUBLING ITS SERVICE AREA BY THE END OF 2026. THAT IS FY'26. SO SEPTEMBER. WITH A TOTAL NUMBER OF PARCELS PASSED BY 5676 PARCELS AND PLANS TO ADD 2300 PARCELS PER YEAR FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS TO A GRAND TOTAL OF 12,500 PARCELS BY THE END OF 2029. AND SO OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS THE ENGINEERING AND COULD STRUCTION TEAM HAS GAINED SIGNIFICANT EFFICIENCIES AND THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF OUR FIBER NETWORK. THIS HAS ALLOWED FPUANET TO BUILD FASTER AT LOWER COSTS BRINGING ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION IN-HOUSE. THIS HAS GIVEN FPUANET AN COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE AND ALLOWED US TO BE VERY AGIGGLE TO ENSURE FIBER IS BEING DEPLOYED IN THE FASTEST WAY POSSIBLE AT THE MOST COST-EFFECTIVE WAY. SECONDING USE THE CORNING TECHNOLOGY, A NEWER TECHNOLOGY THAT ALLOWS FPUANET TO CREATE CUSTOMIZED CABLES FOR SPECIFIC ROUTE THAT ELIMINATE SPLICING IN THE FEED WHICH IS TIME-CONSUMING COSTLY AND INTRODUCES ADDITIONAL FAILURE POINTS IN OUR NETWORK AND THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY ELIMINATES THOSE THINGS. THE SECOND MAJOR EFFICIENCY LAST YEAR THAT THE NETWORK ENGINEERING AND PLANNING TEAM WAS ABLE TO COMPLETE A MULTI-YEAR PROJECT TO UPGRADE OUR CORE TO INCREASE CAPACITY FROM 40 ITS INBOUND AND OUTBOUND TRACK BY 100% AND REDUCES COST PER GIG TO 16 3%. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, FPUANET HAS GAINED SIGNIFICANT EFFICIENCY IN ITS FIBER NETWORK DESIGN AND OVERALL CAPACITY AND REDUCED UNIT COST AND COST PER GIG. WITH THAT BEING SAID FPUANET IS A COMPETITIVE BUSINESS UNIT AND COMPETES ON ALL LEVELS FROM PRICING, SERVICE QUALITY, RELIABILITY, AND OVERALL CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE. IN DECEMBER, FPUANET UPDATED THE BUSINESS PLAN AND FINANCIAL MODEL TO REFLECT THE EFFICIENCIS THAT FPUANET HAS GAINED, AND ADDITIONALLY MARKET STUDY WAS DONE IN DECEMBER, AND WAS UPDATED IN JANUARY 2026.

-- ON THE 26TH FPUANET HAS THE SAME GOAL AS FPUA DOES TO PROVIDE CUPERTS WITH ECONOMIC RELIABLE AND SERVICE TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND FPUANET'S PRICING STRATEGY TO PROVIDE COMPETITIVE PRICING THAT IS TRANSPARENT AND SIMPLE. THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE PROPOSED RATE REDUCTION TO ALL SERVICE TIERS WITH NO EQUIPMENT FEES FOR ALL COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS IN ADDING THE 5 GIG SERVICE TEAND FPUANET IS THE LOWEST COST AND BEST SERVICE IN THE MARKET. THIS SLIDE SHOWS OUR RESIDENTIAL OFFERING, AND THIS IS A MATRIX SHOWING THE MARKET CONDITIONS OF A JANUARY 26TH. THE PROPOSED RATE OFFERING FOR FPUANET RESIDENTIAL MARKET PROPOSAL IS A RATE REDUCTION FOR ALL TIERS AND SERVICE IN ADDITION TO ADDING 5 GIG SERVICE TIER. AS OF DECEMBER 17TH FPUANET WAS GOING TO BE THE LOWEST PRICE IN ALL SERVICE TIERS BURB JANUARY 26TH WHEN WE UPDATED MARKET STUDY WE FOUND COMCAST ADDED PROMOTIONAL PRICING FOR NEW CUSTOMERS THROUGH FEBRUARY 22 ND, 2026. FPUANET FAR SURPASSES ES COMCASTER IN EVERY OTHER SERVICE AND TO COMPETE WITH AT&T THAT IS A SERVICE

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PROVIDESER. THE PROPOSED RATES POSITION FPUANET TO BE LOWER IN EVERY TIER, EXCEPT FOR THE LOWEST TIER, WHERE WE'LL BE THE SAME PRICE. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WANT TO THANK YOU YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. AND AGAIN,

I'M REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR THE RESOLUTION NO. UA2026-06. >> QUESTIONS?

>> MADAM. >> YES. >> CAN YOU GO BACK TO YOUR MAP WHERE YOU WERE SHOWING BROADBAND AVAILABLE. I'M NOT SEEING MUCH IN THE KINGS HIGHWAY AND THIS BOARD IS INTERESTED FOR THAT. THOSE TYPES OF BUSINESSESES ACQUIRE HIGH CAPABILITY OF BRINGING IN INFORMATION QUICKLY, AND FOR INSTANCE LIKE AMAZON USES A TON OF GIG SPACE ON BEING ABLE TO MANAGE WHAT IS HAPPENING INSIDE THE SPACE IS FPUANET AVAILABLE TO MEET THOSE KINDS OF NEEDS AND HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY GOING FORWARD?

>> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR ELECTION. YES, SO WE HAVE FIBER ON KINGS HIGHWAY AND ALSO ON ROCK ROAD, BECAUSE WE FEED THE JAIL AND I.T.. THEY ARE OFF OF ROCK ROAD AND ORANGE AVENUE. AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT. SO WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO FEED SOME OF THOSE MAJOR PROVIDERS, AND THEIR REQUESTS. SO WE'RE PART OF THE TRC AND DRC REVIEW COMMITTEES SO WE OBVIOUSLY COMMUNICATE WITH THOSE INDIVIDUAL BUSINESSES. BUT AT THE MOMENT, WE'RE NOT BUILDING OUT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IN THOSE AREAS AND REALLY FOCUSED MOSTLY WITHIN INSIDE OUR ELECTRICAL FOOTPRINT AND CONNECTING WORKING WITH THE CITY AND PARTNERING WITH PUBLIC WI-FI IN VARIOUS AREAS, AS WELL AS CHECKING MANY OF OUR UTILITY ASSETS PREDOMINANTLY WITH THOSE BUSINESSES OFFERING OUR SERVICES AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN COMPETE WITH ANY OTHER SERVICE

PROVIDER. >> THAT IS WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION, BECAUSE SOME OF THE COMPANIES THAT HAVE LOOKED TO GO INTO THE KINGS HIGHWAY TO SORT OF AREA, COMPARING ELECTRIC POWER AND THIS TYPE OF SERVICE IS -- THERE WERE SOME NEEDS PROJECTED TO BE ONE MEGAWATT JUST FOR ONE BUILDING OVER THERE. SO WHETHER IT'S FPUA OR THE OTHER COMPANY, THERE'S GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT NEED FOR UTILITIES ESPECIALLY ELECTRIC POWER, BUT BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE SERVICE AND POWER FOR THE NET POWER IS GOING TO BE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT FOR THE SUCCESS OF THOSE BUSINESSES OUT THERE. JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE IN ADVANCE, BECAUSE THOSE NEEDS COME VERY FAST, AND NOT HAVING IT ON YOUR FRONT OF MIND GETS

US BEHIND THE 8-BALL. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> AND I WOULD ADD ALSO THAT THE FPUA IS VERY MUCH A PART OF THE KINGS HIGHWAY CORRIDOR, AND ALSO PART OF THE PLAN. I THINK

THEY'LL BE PRESENTING TO THE FPUA SOON, THE ADC. >> EXCELLENT.

>> IT'S ON THEIR RADAR. ABSOLUTELY. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> WHEN YOU ARE RUNNING THIS STUFF PAST MY HOUSE ? KNOW EVERYBODY WANTED TO ASK

THAT QUESTION. >> THANK YOU. >> SO YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION.

I ASKED THAT QUESTION. AND I SAID, HOW DOES ONE FIND OUT? HOW DOES ONE FIND OUT IF THEY ARE ELIGIBLE? AND SO YOU GO ONLINE, AND YOU GO TO FPUANET AND YOU SIGN UP. AND YOU -- AND THEY RESPOND RIGHT AWAY AND TELL YOU WHETHER YOU ARE ELIGIBLE OR IF IT'S THERE OR IF IT'S PLANNED. AND THEN I EVEN GOT A CALL FROM ONE OF YOUR EMPLOYEES SAYING, WE GOT YOUR REQUEST. WE KNOW THAT YOU WANT IT, AND SO I KNOW THAT WHAT YOU WERE PROMOTING FOR A WHILE IS FOR EVERYBODY, IF YOU ARE INTERESTED GO IN AND SIGN UP. BECAUSE THAT SHOWS YOU WHERE

THERE ISS GOING TO BE A LOT OF INTEREST FROM CUSTOMERS. >> ABSOLUTELY. IS

>> IS THAT RIGHT? >> YOU GO TO FPUANET.COM AND TYPE IN YOUR ADDRESS. IF IT'S AVAILABLE YOU CAN SIGN UP IMMEDIATELY. IF IT'S NOT, WHAT HAPPENS ASK IT PUTS A DOT FOR US, AND SO COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, WE HAVE SEEN THAT YOU RECENTLY SUBMITTED YOUR REQUEST. AND SO THERE'SES MANY AREAS THAT WE LOOK AT FROM LOOKING AT WHERE ARE WE GOING TO BUILD AT? ONE OF THEM ARE DRIVING AROUND THE INTERESTS OF THE RESIDENTS. AND SO WE'D ENIS YOURING YOU TO TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS, TELL THEM ABOUT IT, BECAUSE THE MORE DOTS THAT ARE AGGREGATED IN THIS AREA, THAT IS WHAT WE'LL TRY TO BUILD FIRST AS LONG AS THE

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INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE, THE CAPACITY, AND ALL OF THE OTHER DIFFERENT VARIABLES GO INTO

THAT CALCULATION. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES. >> THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

JUST WANT TO SAY, IF I DON'T HAVE A DOT, PRETTY SURE I DID, BUT IF I DIDN'T, I HAVE A DOTER

FOR MY RESIDENTS. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GAINES.

>> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN TO FPUA, BECAUSE VERY SELDOM DO WE GET A REQUEST FOR REDUCTION. YOU NEVER GET REQUESTS AND THE NEXT WORD IS "REDUCTION OF FEES." SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WENT PAST EVERYBODY BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAD THEIR HEAD DOWN, BUT YOU SAID "REDUCTION." SO THANK YOU FOR THAT AND THANK YOU FOR PUTTING IN THE HARD WORK. I REMEMBERED WHEN THIS FIRST STARTED, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED GETTING THIS TOGETHER. SO I LOVE WHAT I'M SEEING AND LET'S KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND TO EVERYBODY THAT IS WATCHING OR GOING TO REVIEW THIS MEETING, IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT, GO ON THE WEBSITE AND PUT YOUR DOT. SO THEY KNOW THAT YOU WANT IT, AND WE'LL TRY TO GET IT TO YOU. AGAIN, THANK YOU.

>> YES. THANK YOU. >> A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE WAS TRENCHING -- NOT TRENCHING BUT THEY WERE GOING UNDERGROUND AND I WAD ASKS IS THIS FPUA WITH HIGH-SPEED? I SAID I DON'T KNOW. YOU ARE A CITY

COMMISSIONER, WHY DON'T YOU KNOW? >> YOU KNOW EVERYTHING.

>> I DON'T KNOW AND THEY ASKED THE SUBCON STRATINGOR CREW AND YOUR COMPETITOR AT&T UNFORTUNATELY. MY WIFE IS DROPPING A DOT AS WE SPEAK. SO I'M HOPEFUL THAT YOU'LL GET THE ENTIRE AREA THAT I LIVE IN AND THE MAYOR LIVES IN COVERED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

>> YES, SIR. YES, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING -- WE ARE BUILT OUT ABOUT HALF OF THE BEACH AT THE MOMENT. AND SO I'M ASSUMING YOUR AREA IS JUST SOUTH OF J.C. PARK.

>> I'M ACTUALLY JUST NORTH IT OF. THAT MEANSES I'M ALREADY IN YOUR COVERAGE AREA.

>> YOURS WILL BE BUILT SOON. >> OKAY. >> WE'RE WAITING --

>> THE MARINER BAGS. >> IN THE ATLANTIC AREA. THAT ORDINARY AREA HAS BEEN

DESIGNED AND WE'LL BE CONSTRUCTING. >> MY WIFE IS DOING A HAPPY

DANCE BECAUSE SHE IS WATCHING THE MEETING. >> I WOULD SAY WITHIN THE NEXT 45 DAYS THAT SHOULD HAPPEN I WILL CANCEL MY COMCAST KNOWING IT'S COMING.

>> DON'T CANCEL YET, BUT DEFINITELY IF YOU HAVEN'T PUT AN ADDRESS IN, DO IT. WITH THE NEW RATE REDUCTION HAPPENING TODAY, WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE HITTING THE BEACH AND OTHER AREAS, TOO, BECAUSE THE BEACH IS NOT THE ONLY TERRITORY WE'RE BUILDING. YOU CAN SEE OVER THERE NEXT TO GARDEN TERRACE WE'RE BUILDING AN AREA THERE, THEY ARE WAITING ON MATERIALS. AS SOON AS THESE RATE CHANGES TOMORROW, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN TO REACH OUT AND PRE-SIGN UP VOLVEDS. BECAUSE THE GOAL IS TO GET THESE INDIVIDUALS KNOW, HEY IT'S HAPPENING AND IT'S HAPPENING WITHIN THIS TIMEFRAME. SO WE'RE REALLY

EXCITED AND THE TEAM IS READY TO PUT TOGETHER. >> I WILL BE THE FIRST ONE ON

MY STREET TO SIGN. >> THANK YOU. >> AND SERVICE TO MY HOUSE.

IT'S A CHARMED LIFE, THAT IS FOR SURE. >> ANYTHING ELSE? YES, WELL, IT'S RARE THAT WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT SAYS WE WANT TO REDUCE THE PRICE ON SOMETHING. SO WE THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING. SO IS THERE A MOTION?

>> MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND SECOND, CALL THE

>> COMMISSIONER ZADOCHINGY. >> YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER GAINES?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> MAYOR HUDSON. >> YES, MA'AM. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. >> APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU.

[B. Resolution No. 26-R09 Extending State of Emergency for Beach Erosion and Dune Protection Project]

>> NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION 26-R09 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA EXTENDING THE DECLARATION OF LOCAL EMERGENCY AUTHORIZING THE CITY CLERK TO FILE SAID RESOLUTION WITH THE CEREBING OF CIRCUIT COURT AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> MR. CHESS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY ABOUT THIS?

>> I WILL GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND. OVER THE PAST SEVERAL WEEKS THE CITY HAS BEEN WITH THE BEACH EROSION, AND FEBRUARY 5TH, WE REALLY TOOK UPON THE DUNE PROTECTION PROJECT AND BROUGHT THIS TO THE COMMISSION, I BELIEVE IT WAS ON THE DAY MEETING FEBRUARY 9TH AND THE FOLLOWING DAY WE ACTUALLY DECLARED A LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY. IT WAS THE FACT THAT GOES BACK TO FEBRUARY 5TH IT WAS ONLY FOR SEVEN DAYS. SO IN ACTUALITY IT EXPIRED FEBRUARY 12TH. SO THIS RESOLUTION IS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THE EXTENSION OF THAT STATE OF EMERGENCY. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY, BUT YOU ALL CAN GET MORE DETAIL ON WHY I FEEL THAT WAY. BUT I BELIEVE THE EMERGENCY, WHICH EXPIRED LAST THURSDAY, CAN BE LIFTED -- SHOULD NOT BE RENEWED OR EXTENDINGED.

>> COMMISSIONERS? ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING? >> MADAM MAYOR, MR. CHESS, IF

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WE DON'T RENEW IT AND THERE ARE ADDITIONAL EXPENSES, WILL WE ABOUT ABLE TO GO AFTER THOSE

WITHOUT THE STATE OF EMERGENCY IN PLACE? >> WELL, THERE'S NO GUARANTY THAT THE CURRENT STATE OF EMERGENCY, LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY WILL ALLOW US TO GET ADDITIONAL FUNDSES, BUT BASED ON THE COLLABORATION WITH THE COUNTY, BECAUSE WHAT IS TAKING PLACE NOW, THE COUNTY AND THE CITY HAS BEEN COLLABORATING AND THE COUNTY IS PROVIDING, I THINK THEY CALL IT A LARGE BUCKET LOADER TO MOVE THE SAND FROM THE JETTY DOWN ON THE SOUTH BEACH WHERE OUR AREA OF CONCERN IS. WE HAVE ACTUALLY HAVE RENTED LEASED EQUIPMENT FOR 30 DAYS TO COLLABORATE WITH THEM. WE'RE LOOKING AT IT ON A DAILY BASIS, THE COUNTY IS THAT IT IS AND THE CITY IS REALLY NOT OUT THERE ANYMORE AND THE COUNTY IS GIVING DAILY UPDATES.

SO WHEN THEY DECIDE WE NEED TO REPLACE THE SAND, THEY WILL CONTACT PUBLIC WORKS AND PUBLIC WORKS STAFF WILL GO OUT THERE. IT TAKES LESS THAN 30 MINUTE AND THEY RETURN. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT'S NOT WORTH PAYING THE EXTRA PAY FOR THE STAFF FOREVER THIS EMERGENCY PAY, WHEN IT'S SUCH A SMALL PROJECT AT THIS STAGE. SO YOU ARE TALKING LIKE 30 MINUTES OR LESS TO GET OUT THERE. THE KEY FOR US, IT'S BEING MONITORED DAILY. IF WE DECIDE TO GO OUT THERE FREQUENTLY WE CAN ALL REVISIT THE STATE OF EMERGENCY, TO DETERMINE PWE'LL HAVE ADDITIONAL CAUSE, EXTREME CAUSE. AS WE SEE IT NOW, IT'S NOT NECESSARY. THAT IS JUST MY

OPINION ON IT. > ANY OTH COMMISSIONERS? >> I HEARD SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO BE CLEAR, AND THANK YOU FOR ASKING THE QUESTION, BECAUSE IF THEY DO GO OUT NOW, BECAUSE THERE IS A STATE OF EMERGENCY THAT WAS DECLARED THAT TRIGGERS SOME DIFFERENT

LEVEL OF PAY/COMPENSATION FOR THAT EMPLOYEE? >> THE EMPLOYEES RECEIVE THEIR REGULAR PAY IS AT TIME-AND-A-HALF. IF THEY HAPPEN TO GO OVERTIME THAT IS ANOTHER TIME AND-AND-A-HALF AND YOU ARE TALKING TIME-AND-A-HALF PAY. SO REMOVING THE STATE OF

EMERGENCY IS REGULAR PAY. >> THAT IS THE CONCERN THAT TRIGGERS FOR US, WHAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT GET BACK. AND THAT COULD BE FIVE YEARS, SEVEN YEARS FROM NOW THAT THE GOVERNMENT MAY DECIDE. I THINK AT THIS POINT, IF IT GETS TO THAT DIRE STRAIT, I THINK WE'RE IN A POSITION, MAYBE TO CALL A SPECIAL MEETING OR DO AS NEEDED. BUT TO REDO IT AND PUT IT IN PLACE AND IF I HEAR YOU RIGHT, THAT EMPLOYEE GOES OVER THERE WITH A GRADER OR LOAD OF

SAND, THAT IS DOUBLE TIME-AND-A-HALF FOR 30 MINUTES. >> THAT IS IF IT'S OVERTIME.

TIME-AND-A-HALF. >> WHATEVER YOU JUST SAID. >> RIGHT.

>> OKAY. GOT IT. >> THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME, SIR.

>> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. >> THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION AND I'M NOT DEBATING THE STATE OF EMERGENCY SCENARIO. HOWEVER, MY ASSESSMENT OF THE SITUATION HAVING BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS DAILY, MULTIPLE TIMES PER DAY, FOR SEVERAL WEEKS NOW IS THAT WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A WAR AGAINST MOTHER NATURE RIGHT NOW. AND WE MAY HAVE WON A FEW BATTLES, BUT MOTHER NATURE IS QUICKLY RECLAIMING THE WORK THAT WE HAVE PERFORMED. WITH THE FRONTAL SYSTEM THAT JUST CAME THROUGH, WINDS KICKED UP, EROSION STARTED, WHAT IS TODAY? IT CAME THROUGH SUNDAY NIGHT AND EROSION STARTED SUNDAY NIGHT AGAIN INTO MONDAY AND NO WORK WAS KONG DUCTED YESTERDAY YESTERDAY. NO WORK WAS CONDUCTED TODAY. TEMPORARY MEASURES PUT IN PLACE ARE NOW SIGNIFICANTLY DETERIORATED. AND DUNE EROSION IS COMMENCING AGAIN. SO THE STATE OF EMERGENCY, I AGREE WITH THE ANALYSIS THAT PAYING 2.5 TIMES NORMAL RATE TO GET OPERATORS ON-SITE IS EXCESSIVE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. NORMAL RATE OR EVEN OVERTIME RATE, I FIND TO BE ACCEPTABLE. THE COLLABORATION WITH THE COUNTY HAS WORKED OUT BETTER THAN I HAD HOPED. THE ALLOCATION OF EQUIPMENT, MANPOWER AND RESOURCES HAS BEEN 100% COOPERATIVE. SO I HAVE NO COMPLAINTS ABOUT LOCAL INTERAGENCY COOPERATION AND SUPPORT. I DO HAVE ISSUES WITH OTHER AGENCIES SUCH AS THE STATE, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, ET CETERA. BUT THAT IS NOT TODAY'S DEBATE. SO I DON'T DISAGREE WITH LETTING THE LAPSE OF THE STATE OF EMERGENCY CONTINUE. HOWEVER, AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE, WE MAY NEED TO INSTITUTE THIS AGAIN, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY ANOTHER 4-6 WEEKS BEFORE NOURISHMENT OF THE BEACH COMMENCES ON THE ISLAND AND TO GET TO THE BEACH AREAS THAT ARE A QUARTER MILE SOUTH OF JETTY IS ANOTHER SEVERAL WEEKSES CANDIDLY. IF WE ARE ABLE TO HOLD OFF THE TIDE, AND THESE ARE JUST MY PERSONAL

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OBSERVATIONS. I'M NOT AN ENGINEER. I'M NOT A COASTAL ENGINEER, BUT I HAVE WORKED IN THIS INDUSTRY. I WILL BE STUNNED IF WE'RE ABLE TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN KEEPING BACK THE FLOODWATERS UNTIL THE PERMANENT -- SOMEWHAT LONGER TERM BEACH NOURISHMENT PROGRAM TAKES PLACE. I HAVE VERY, VERY GRAVE CONCERNS AS TO OUR ABILITY TO STOP THAT FROM HAPPENING AND IF IT HAPPENS, AGAIN, JUST MY ASSESSMENT OF THE SITUATION IS THAT POTENTIALLY WE'RE GOING TO LOSE SEVERAL HUNDRED FEET OF EMBANKMENT WHICH IS JUST BASICALLY OPENING UP THE FLOODWATERS. THE STATE OF EMERGENCY DOESN'T DEAL WITH THAT IN ANY CAPACITY, BUT I'M GIVING WHAT MY OVERVIEW IS, SO IF MADAM MAYOR HAS TO CALL AN EMERGENCY MEETING ON A SUNDAY MORNING TO GET US HERE TO DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO KEEP TO KEEP THE ISLAND FROM BEING INUNDATED WITH SEAWATER, DON'T BE SURPRISED. I PERSONALLY BELIEVE WITHIN THE NEXT SIX WEEK TIMELINE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. THAT IS JUST MY PERSON YAP OBSERVATION AND I WANT THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND I'M NOT A QUALIFIED EXPERT BY ANY

EMERGENCY IMAGINE. ATION. >> WE WERE GIVEN INFORMATION FROM THE CHARTER THAT THE MAYOR COULD CALL WITHOUT HAVING TO CALL A SPECT MEETING. I THINK

THAT TAKES CARE OF SOME OF THAT. >> MS. HEDGES YOU CAN CHIME-IN IN HERE. I CAN DO IT WITHOUT A

COMMISSION MEETING. >> WHICH I'M ALL IN FAVOR. >> BUT WE PROBABLY WOULD CALL A SPECIAL MEETING SO WE COULD ALL KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON. IS THAT RIGHTION MS. HEDGES?

>> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, CORRECT. YOU ARE ABLE TO CALL WHAT IS THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? INSTITUTE A LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY ON YOUR OWN AS THE MAYOR TO RENEW IT. IT DOES REQUIRE THE RESOLUTION, WHICH IS WHAT IS HERE BEFORE YOU. IT'S IN SEVEN-DAY INCREMENTS.

SO YOUR INITIAL DESIGNATION OF A LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY IS FOR SEVEN DAYS. ANYTHING PAST THAT COMES BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL. IF SOMETHING COMES UP AGAIN, AND YOU FEEL THAT WE NEED TO DESIGNATE ANOTHER LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY, YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.

AND/OR CALL A SPECIAL MEETING. YOU CAN DO THAT WITH I BELIEVE SIX-HOURS' NOTICE. THE COMMISSION AND FPUA ARE DIFFERENT, SO I CONFUSE THEM SOMTIMES.

>> ONE FOLLOW-UP COMMENT. THANK YOU, MS. HEDGES. I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR HAVING THAT ABILITY TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION IS THAT -- WHAT WAS THE POINT? I LOST MY POINT. MR. CHESS IS CORRECT, WE HAVE SECURED THE NECESSARY EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEED TO MAKE THAT OPERATION AS SUCCESSFUL AS POSSIBLE. AND OUR PUBLIC WORKS FOLKS HAVE WORKED HEROICALLY TO PREVENT THE INEVITABLE, POTENTIALLY INEVITABLE FROM HAPPENING HERE, BUT IT IS ESSENTIALLY OUT OF OUR CONTROL. SO WE'LL CONTINUE COLLECTIVELY AS THE COMMISSION, COUNTY, BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, THEIR STAFF, OUR STAFF WORKING COLLABORATIVE UNTIL THIS PROBLEM IS MORE PERMANENTLY RESOLVED. IT'S VERY SERIOUS, GUYS AND I KNOW YOU HEARD ME SCREAMING FROM THE ROOFTOPS, BUT IT'S GETTING, BUT FROM THE HOUR. EVERY TIDE CYCLE WE'RE

LOSING EMBANKMENT AND THERE'S NOT MUCH LEFT TO LOSE. >> SO THEY HAVE ACTUALLY GONE EVERY SINGLE DAY AND THIS MORNING WE DID -- I WILL CALL IT SAND REPLACEMENT. THEY CALL IT A FILL. WE DID A FILL ON FRIDAY. WE LOST ABOUT 15' OF SAND, BUT 95% OF THE SANDS IS STILL THIS WHAT WE DID ON FRIDAY, GIVEN WHAT HAPPENED THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS. SO THEY

ARE MONITORING THAT IS VERY, VERY CLOSELY >> THEY ARE KEEPING IN TOUCH?

ARE THEY KEEPING YOU INFORMED? >> THEY ARE SENDING IN PICTURES AND GIVING DAILY UPDATES. SO WE'RE REALLY GETTING GOOD INFORMATION. WE'RE GETTING LIVE INFORMATION, REALTIME INFORMATION, I SHOULD SAY. THEY ARE ACTUALLY SENDING PHOTOS AND EXPLAINING WHAT IS TAKING PLACE IN THE PICTURES. AS SOON AS IT APPEARS THAT WE NEED TO GO OUT THERE AND ADD MORE, AS I SAID, WE DID A FILL ON FRIDAY. WE LOST 15', THEY SAID, BUT THE 95% OF WHAT WE PLACED IS STILL THERE. SO WE THINK THAT IS A GOOD SIGN FOR US TODAY, AS THE COMMISSIONER SAID. THAT CAN CHANGE OVERNIGHT, DEPENDING ON HOW HIGH THE WINDS ARE AND HOW HIGH THE TIDE COMES IN. THE KEY FOR US, IT'S BEING MONITORED DAILY BY MR. LANDRY'S TEAM.

>> AND KEEPING YOU INFORMED? >> ABSOLUTELY. GETTING UPDATES. PUBLIC WORKS IS GETTING UPDATES, AS WELL AS MYSELF AND, AS WELL AS MR. LANDRY AND HIS TEAM ARE GETTING

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THE SAME INFORMATION. >> I HAVE ONE FURTHER THING. I MET WITH JOSH ON SATURDAY, AND WE HAD A RATHER RANGING DISCUSSION. JOSH AND I WERE NOT ON THE SAME PAGE AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS AND WE NOW FIND OURSELVES IN A COMMON THEME AS TO WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING CURRENTLY. BUT I ALSO ASKED JOSH THAT POST-THIS SCENARIO, WHEN WE GET OUT OF THIS EMERGENCY SITUATION AND NOURISHMENT IS COMPLETED, ET CETERA. THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT I WANT HIM TO COME BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION TO REPORT ON TWO THINGS. ONE, A POST-ACTION REPORT AS TO EMERGENCY AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, AND I KNOW WE HAVE SIGN A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR FUNDING FOR A MORE PERMANENT INSTALLATION SCENARIO OUT THERE, WHO I'M DEALING WITH THE SECRETARY OF INTERIOR TO SPEED UP THE FUNDING FOR THIS. SO JOSH IS THE POINT MAN FOR THE COUNTY ON THIS. I WOULD LIKE HIM TO COME IN AND GIVE US A REPORT TO ENLIGHTEN AS WHAT WE CAN ASSIST TO MOVE THAT PROJECT FORWARD. JOSH IS THE ONE WHO IS ACTUALLY PUTTING THE GRIND THROUGH THE MILL TO GET THE WORK DONE. AND ALL THE ENGINEERS INVOLVED, HE IS MANAGING ALL OF THAT. SO HE IS THE ONE, AND HE GAVE ME AN IN-DEPTH EXPLANATION WHY WE'RE NOT A PRIORITIZATION PROJECT FORT ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND IT'S -- I WILL GIVE YOU JUST ONE MINUTE OF IT. SIMPLY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH VALUE IN OUR REAL ESTATE ON SOUTH HUTCHINSON ISLAND TO OFFSET OF THE COST INVESTMENT FROM THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS. THERE'S A RATIO THAT THEY USE AND IF YOU ARE BENEATH 1.0, YOUR APPLICATION GETS PUT ASIDE. WE'RE AT .7.

I'M NOT GOING TO BOR YOU WITH DETAILS, BUT TO BUILD 20-STORY TOWERS --

>> RIGHT. >> I'M NOT GOING TO GO DOWN THAT RABBIT HOLE. SUFFICE TO SAY, IT WAS A VERY ENLIGHTENING DISCUSSION THAT I HAD WITH HIM TO GET AN EDUCATION ON THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS MANIFESTATIONS HOW THEY CALCULATE FUNDING PROJECTS.

>> I THINK THE NUCLEAR POWER PLANT. >> THEY HAVE SOME VALUE, BUT

WE HAVE TO ANNEX IT. WE LIVE IN CITY OF FORT PIERCE. >> RIGHT. RIGHT. SO MS. HEDGES, WE DO NOT -- IF WE VOTE NOT TO RENEW THIS, WE CAN ALWAYS DECLARE A NEW STATE OF

EMERGENCY, IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES, MA'AM. >> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> SO WHAT IS THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION? >> SO ADMINISTRATE MAYOR, I

MOVE WE NOT APPROVAL RESOLUTION 26-R09. >> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> I'M SECOND THAT. >> CALL THE RO, PLEASE. >> THE MOTION TO DENY.

>> YES, MOTION TO DENY, YES. >> THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BRODERICK?

>> YES. >> COMMISSIONER ZADOSKY. >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES? >> YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> MAYOR HUDSON? >> YES, MA'AM.

[C. ADDED ITEM: Fort Pierce Garden Club Status]

>> OKAY. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 13C, WHICH IS THE GARDEN CLUB STATUS.

>> MADAM MAYOR, FELLORE COMMISSIONERS, SO IN MY WEEKLY STAFF LEARNING, LAST WEEK I ALSO MET WITH SOME RESIDENTS IN THE OAKLAND PARK HIBISCUS STABBED A AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT. I HAVE GOTTEN IT ALSO FROM OTHER ORGANIZATIONS IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT HAVE RENTED THE GARDEN CLUB FOR EVERYTHING FROM WEDDING RECEPTIONS TO BIRTH ANNOUNCEMENTS, ET CETERA. AND SO THIS BUILDING HAS KIND OF BEEN IN A STATE OF DISREPAIR AND NOT IN USE. SO I INQUIRED ABOUT IT, THAT LED TO DISCUSSION IN MY STAFF MEETING, AND THEN, MR. CHESS, AND I THINK THE ATTORNEY, THEY WENT BACK AND SETTLED SOME THINGS AS FAR AS THE RIGHTFUL OWNERSHIP, ET CETERA OF THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY. IT IS A FACILITY THAT IS OWNED BY THE CITY. AND THERE'S A PLAN, AND I WOULD ASK MR. CHESS TO KIND OF HAVE STAFF PREPARE TO BRING US UP-TO-DATE, SO WE CAN GET SOME COMMUNICATION TO THE PUBLIC, WHO IS WATCHING US AS TO WHAT IS THE STATUS? WHAT TO EXPECT WITH THIS JEWEL IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE TO USE AND RENT. SO THAT IS KIND OF WHERE I'M AT.

>> MR. CHESS. >> DEPUTY MANAGER IS GOING TO EXPAND ON SOME OF THE WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE. THIS WAS IDENTIFIED BACK IN JULY WITH OUR PREVIOUS PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. AND WE HAD THE GARDEN CENTER REMEDIATION AND RENOVATION PROJECT AND THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT FUNDS. FOR SOME REASON THE PROJECT WAS HALTED, BUT MR. JOHNSON, HE IS GOING TO GO INTO DETAIL, THERE ARE FIVE MAIN CRITERIA THAT HAS TO BE DONE. I WOULD SAY WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE. I WILL LET MR. JOHNSON GO INTO DETAIL ON THAT.

>> DEPUTY CITY MANAGER AS STATED. THIS PROJECT INITIALLY KICKED OFF IN JULY OF 2025,

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SHORTLY AFTER THE RETIREMENT EVENT. >> JACK ANDREWS.

>> EXACTLY. OUR FACILITIES MANAGER NOTICED SOME ISSUES WITH THE NEARING AND EXTREMELY SOFT SPOTS THAT WERE AT-RISK AND DANGER/LIABILITY. AFTER FURTHER INVESTIGATION IT WAS MUCH WORSE THAN THEY COULD IMAGINE, NOT ONLY SOFT SPOTS, BUT WATER POOLING UNDER THE BUILDING WITH MOLD AND QUITE A BIT GOING ON. I'M NOT THE EXPERT, BUT SO THE REMEDIATION EFFORTS AND WHAT THEY FOUND AND GET UP TO SPEED WHERE WE ARE LIKE NOW AND WHAT NEXT STEPS TO GET THAT BUILDING REMEDIATED FULLY AND BACK ON THE MARKET FOR AVAILABILITY AND USAGE.

>> WELCOME, SIR. STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. >> RICK STAFFORD, FACILITIES MANAGER. IT'S AN OLD FACILITY AND WE PUT ABOUT AS MR. BAND-AIDS THAT WE COULD IN THE SEVEN YEARS I HAVE BEEN HERE. IT'S NEEDED SOME WORK FOR A LONG TIME. WE HAVE ALL BEEN THERE, AND FOR EVENTS AND EVERYTHING. IT'S BUILT IN THE PIT. IT'S BUILT IN A HOLE.

ALL THE WATER AROUND THAT AREA RUNS TO THAT BUILDING. SO THAT IS CREATED PROBLEMS FROM UNDER THE BUILDING HOLDING MOISTURE AND THE STRUCTURAL COMPONENTS HAPPENED FROM UNDERNEATH ON THAT BUILDING. LIKE CHASE SAID, WHEN WE STARTED PEELING BACK THE LAYERS OF THIS THING, AND WE PULLED UP SOME THE FLOORING WE KNEW WE HAD SOME SOFT SPOTS FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW. SO WE IDENTIFIED THOSING AND DID SOME INVESTIGATIVE RESTRUCTION AND WE WENT AND TORE THE FLOORS OUT AND THE RESTROOM AREA. AS WE GET IN THERE, WE FOUND IT EXTENDED IN THROUGH THE KITCHEN AREA AND UNDER THE KITCHEN CABINETS AND COUNTERTOPS, WHICH NATURALLY MADE THE PROJECT KEEP GROWING. SO THAT IS WHERE WE'RE AT NOW. THEN WE ALWAYS RUN INTO THE M-WORD WHEN WE GET THERE AND DID THE DECONSTRUCTION -- DESTRUCTION OF THAT. THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF MOLD THAT WE FOUND BEHIND CABINETS, AND IN SOME WALL CAVITIES. SO THAT LED US TO DO INDOOR AIR QUALITY TESTING TO TEST THE MOLD AND EVERYTHING.

AND THAT IS WHERE WE ARE NOW. AND THEN I STARTED PUTTING SOME NUMBERS TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, ON THIS, AND I HAVE COMPILED A LOT BOTH OUTSOURCING SOME OF THE WORK, AS WELL AS DOING MUCH IN-HOUSE AS WE CAN. I HAVE ALWAYS, MY DIVISION ALWAYS HAS CON STRAINTS THOSE BASICALLY BEING CAPITAL AND PEOPLE WE'RE A TEAM OF TEN PEOPLE IN FACILITIES RIGHT NOW. SO WE'RE PRETTY LIMITED WHAT WE CAN DO IN-HOUSE, BUT WE CAN GET A LOT DONE. IN A NUTSHELL, I DID PUT SOME THINGS OUT FOR BID ON THIS. NATURALLY THE MOLD REMEDIATION AND DEMOLITION IS IN THERE. THE FLOORING. WE COULD PROBABLY DO THAT IN-HOUSE AND SAVE SOME MONEY. BIG PART OF THE COSTS WILL BE IN THE MOLD REMEDIATION AND GETTING THAT PORTION TAKEN CARE OF, AND THAT IS TO THE TUNE OF $70,000. BUT WHAT WE HAVE INCLUDED IN THAT IS AN ENCAPSULATION OF THE UNDERSIDE OF THE BUILDING. I FOUND ONLY ONE COMPANY IN FLORIDA THAT DOES THIS TYPE OF WORK AND THEY BASICALLY TREAT IT LIKE A CRAWL SPACE OR A BASEMENT, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE BASEMENTS HERE IN FLORIDA. BUT THEY WILL ENCLOSE THAT WHOLE UNDERSIDE OF IT, ENCAPSULATE IT, INSTALL SUBPUMPS THAT GET THE WATER OUT AND BASICALLY MAKE THAT A CONDITIONED SPACE UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING TO PREVENT THIS KIND OF DAMAGE AND ROT AFTER WE GO THROUGH THE

PROCESS. >> SO ESSENTIALLY WE CAME UP WITH A PRE-PLAN, THREE OPTIONS.

THERE'S AN IN-HOUSE OPTION WHERE THE CITY STAFF DOES MOST OF THE WORK. I HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN WITH RICK AND HIS TEAM AND ALLOCATING A COUPLE OF GUYS TO CONCENTRATE ON THAT FACILITY AND ATTEMPTING TO GET IT GOING. THERE'S A HYBRID OPTION IN WHICH WE CONTRACT OUT SOME OF IT, WHICH OBVIOUSLY WILL COST MORE, AND THEN THERE'S HAVING IT FULLY CONTRACTED OUT WHICH WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE THE LARGEST COST AND CURRENTLY RICK IS ABLE TO DEDICATE THREE GUYS THERE

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AND ESTIMATED 45-90 DAYS WITH THREE GUYS DEDICATED DAILY WITH MOST OF THE WORK THEY CAN GET DONE IN-HOUSE AND OFFSETTING THERE'S' ROOF LEAK AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT THE CONTRACTOR WILL HAVE TO DO FOR ENCAPSULATION AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. THAT IS THE

CURRENT PLAN TO GET THIS BACK UP AND OPERATIONAL. >> QUESTIONS?

>> SO AT SOME POINT, AND I ASKED FOR THIS PUBLICLY, AS STAFF MEETS AND YOU MEET WITH STAFF, I THINK WE CAN GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THESE THREE OPTIONS TO LOOK AT IT AND LOOK AT FUNDING SOURCE OF WHERE THESE FUNDS COULD COME WITH FURTHER CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR CFO, ET CETERA. I WANTED US TO HAVE A LEVEL SET SO WE ALL KNOW. BECAUSE I'M SURE FROM DIFFERENT AREAS PEOPLE ARE ASKING WHAT ABOUT THE GARDEN CLUB? AND NOW WE ALL KIND OF HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION. AND IT'S NOT DIRE, BUT IT'S A CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE, BECAUSE OF HOW IT SITS ON THIS PROPERTY. AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A CONCERN, AND WHEN IT RAINS THERE IT FLOODSING AND THE WATER SITS FOR DAYS SOMETIMES. SO IF WE ENCAPSULATE IT, THAT

GIVES US A SHELL TO PROTECT IT FROM THAT; RIGHT? >> CORRECT.

>> AND THAT IS A GUARANTY ON IT. OKAY. I'M FINE WITH IT AT THIS POINT. I WANTED YOU GUYS TO HEAR THIS, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I'M PRETTY MUCH DONE.

>> YES, SIR? >> I HAVE A LITTLE HISTORY WITH THIS FACILITY. IN 2004 I BECAME THE PRESIDENT OF THE HIBISCUS PARK CRIME WATCH AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. THERE WAS SOME QUESTION WHO HAD CONTROL OF THE BUILDING? WHO THOUGHT THEY OWNED -- HAD ACCESS AND SO AND SO FORTH? IN 2004 WE HAD THE HURRICANES AND NEIGHBORS REINSTITUTED THE CRIME WATCH TO HELP OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS AND CODE ENFORCEMENT, THE CITIZENS ASKED FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT SWEEP. I EXPLAINED TO THEM, BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU ASK FOR, YOU MAY GET IT. IT ENDED UP BEING 87% OF THE PROPERTIS IN THE PARK WERE ON PROBATION. IT TOOK US FOUR MONTHS TO GET IT DOWN TO 25%. THE GARDEN CENTER WAS ACTUALLY A HUB OF OPPORTUNITY WHETHER WE HAD DUMPSTERS OUT THERE, COORDINATING THE CLEAN-UPED AND NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT TEAMS WERE CREATED WITH T-SHIRTS. BECAUSE THEY HAD SO MUCH INTEREST IN MAKING THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BETTER AGAIN, BECAUSE IT WAS ONE OF THE TOP GROWING NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, ATTORNEYS AND DOCTORS AND SO ON. REALLY WERE THE ONES LIVING IN HIBIFICKUS PARK AND OAKLAND PARK WAS A BIG PARK OF TEACHING HIBISCUS PARK HOW TO BE A BETTER COMMUNITY WHETHER IT'S CRIME WATCH OR IMPROVING THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. SO THAT IS PART OF THE HISTORY WHY SOME OF THE FOLKS THINK THEY OWN IT, BUT IT'S LONG HISTORY THERE. I CAME IN FRONT OF THE BOARD BACK THEN AND DENNIS BEACH WAS THE CITY MANAGER. AND THERE BEING CHARGED $35 A MEETING. AND WE ASKED FOR CONSIDERATION AT THAT TIME AND PART OF THE HISTORY THAT THEY WANTED TO HAVE IT FOR FREE OR REDUCED RATES. SO THESE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT HAPPENED AND THE HISTORY THAT GETS US HERE AND SOMETIMES HELPFUL TO HEAR THAT. I SPOKE WITH THE FORMER PRESIDENT, WHO HAS SIGNIFICANT PROFESSIONAL SKILLS, AND HE HAS OFFERED TO PROVIDE THOSE SKILLS IN-KIND. HE IS AN ARCHITECT WITH A GREAT DEAL --

>> THAT IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD I BET I KNOW WHO IT IS. >> HE WAS A FORMER PRESIDENT UNTIL LAST YEAR. SO THE CITIZENS ARE WILLING TO DO WHATEVER THEY CAN TO HELP, WHETHER IT'S LABOR, WHETHER IT'S MAINTAINING AN EYE ON IT. AND OTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. SO THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, AND SINCE I LIVE

IN THE AREA I WOULD BE HAPPY TO BE A LIAISON AS WELL. >> THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I KNOW THE COMMUNITY IS ANXIOUS TO GET BACK, ESPECIALLY THE GARDEN CLUB IS ANXIOUS AS YOU WELL KNOW. I THINK THEY ARE MEETING AT THE RIVERWALK.

>> WE'RE INTERESTED TO GET IT BACK AS A SPACE, A VENUE, YOU KNOW? WE WERE DOWN ONE BECAUSE OF THE CITY ANNEX BUILDING FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND WE'RE ALMOST AT A POINT THAT WE'RE

GETTING THAT BACK ONLINE AND WE LOST THIS ONE. >> YES, RIGHT.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> AS LONG AS WHEN WE'RE REDOING IT MAKING SURE THAT

WATER WON'T DO DAMAGE AGAIN. IT'S WORTH FIXING. >> THE PUMP WILL PUMP THE WATER OUT AS CAN'T STOP IT, BUT WE CAN GET IT. THE ENCAPSULATION WILL

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PROTECT THE MATERIAL THAT IS THERE. YES, MA'AM. >> AND ALSO INCLUDES

DEHUMIDIFIER THAT GETS THE MOISTURE OUT. >> I SAW ON FACEBOOK THEY DO

THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S THERE, BUT IT'S THERE. >> YOU CAN BELIEVE EVERYTHING

YOU READ ON FACEBOOK; RIGHT? >> SURE

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE COMMISSION? THANK YOU. SO MR.

CHESS, YOU ARE GOING TO MOVE THAT ALONG AS MUCH -- >> ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY.

WE HAVE A PLAN. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU.

[D. ADDED ITEM: Crabby's Lease Status]

. >> THE NEXT ITEM IS THE CRABBY'S LEASE STATUS.

>> COMMISSIONER. BRODERICK. >> AT THE OUTSET HERE I'M GOING TO JUST COMMENT THAT I HAVE A DAY JOB, AND THAT DAY JOB IS THE ADMINISTRATION OF COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE, WHICH INVOLVES LEASES, AND CONSTRUCTION AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO I'M SAYING THAT BECAUSE THE COMMENTS I'M ABOUT TO MAKE I KNOW OF WHAT I SPEAK.

SO I JUST WANT TO PUT IT OUT THERE, THIS IS 40 SOME ODD YEARS EXPERIENCE IN THIS PARTICULAR INDUSTRY. I RECEIVED THE PAPERWORK FORWARDED BY CITY ATTORNEY HEDGES, AND I'M NOT A SOCIAL MEDIA PERSON, BUT I HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO THE SOCIAL MEDIA REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC, AND THE DICHOTOMY BETWEEN FACT AND FIX ARE EXTREME. SO I FIRST WANT TO SET THE ISSUE STRAIGHT TO THE CONSUMING PUBLIC AND THEY CAN SEND ME ALL THE EMAILS AND TEXTS, THAT IS FINE. THIS IS NOT AN ACTION TAKEN BY THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. THIS IS A TENANT DEFAULT. THE TENANT DEFAULTED ON THEIR LEASE. YOU CAN PUT THAT INTO THE NEWSPAPER AND INTO THE NEWS, THE TENANT DEFAULTED ON ITS LEASE AND NOT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IN REGARDS TO THIS INSTITUTION. HAVING SAID THAT, I HAVE SOME VERY SERIOUS CONCERNS AS TO THE HANDLING OF THIS ISSUE INTERNALLY BY THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. AND LET ME ELABORATE: AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, BASED ON THE DOCUMENTATION THAT MS. HEDGES SEPARATE OUT AND DOCUMENTATION BY THE CITY WE NOTIFIED THE TENANT WHEN THEY WERE FOUR MONTHS IN ARREARS IN RENT. PI RAN MY COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE COMPANY LETTING TENANTS RUN FOUR MONTHS IN ARREARS, I'M GOING TO APPLY FOR A JOB AT THE COMPANY CLEANING ARNOLD'S OFFICES, ET CETERA. THIS IS NOT A WAY TO RUN COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE ASSETS THAT ARE OWNED BY THE CITY. HOWEVER, THE DEFAULT IS WORSE THAN THAT. IT'S NOW FIVE MONTHS RENTS. LET'S BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. THE DEFAULT IS WORSE THAN THAT, IN THAT THE PROVISION OF THE LEASE I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT, THERE'S A REAL ESTATE TAX PROVISION IN THE LEASE, WHERE THE TENANT PAYS THE REAL ESTATE TAXES ON THE SITE. AND THIS IS UNCONSCIONABLE TO ME, THIS DEFAULT IS THREE YEARS OLD. THREE YEARS THE REAL ESTATE TAXES HAVE NOT BEEN PAID AND WE'RE JUST MAKING DEMAND NOW FOR CITY OWED TO THE CITY. I HAD MY TEAM IN MY OFFICE TODAY, WHO ARE LEASE ADMINISTRATION PEOPLE ANALYZE THESE DOCUMENTS AND MYSELF. SO THE LEASE IS CRYSTAL CLEAR, THE CITY PAYS THE TAX BILL AND THEN BILLS THE TENANT. THE TENANT ISSUES REIMBURSEMENT TO THE CITY OF NOT BEEN PAID FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR REAL ESTATE TAX FOR THREE YEARS AND THE DEFAULT PROVISION IN THAT PARTICULAR CLAUSE STATES THAT YOU ARE IN DEFAULT IF EVER WE INVOICE YOU HAVE NOT PAID WITHIN 15 DAYS. SO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IS NOW UNDERWATER IN THIS THING, $215,000 GIVE OR TAKE A FEW DOLLARS. $215,000 OF INCOME AND COSTS THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE COVERED BY THE TENANT. THE CITY HAS NOT RECEIVED. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT IS NOW THE BURDEN OF THE TAXPAYERS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE TO MAKE UP THAT SHORTFALL AND I FIND THIS TO BE A HORRIBLY MISMANAGED SITUATION. I ASKED AT LAST WEEK'S MEETING FOR A BREAK DURON OF ALL TENANT LEASES IN THE CITY AND WHO IS IN DEFAULT AND WHAT RENT THEY ARE PAYING? TO-DATE WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THAT DOCUMENTATION. I HAVE REQUESTED FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS IN THE BUDGET CYCLE FOR A LEASE ADMINISTRATOR IN THE CITY, BECAUSE AS BEST I CAN TELL, NOBODY HERE KNOWS WHAT REAL ESTATE IS OWNED BY THE CITY OF BE CHALLENGED TO SAY THAT ANY DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY DOES NOT KNOW WHAT REAL ESTATE IS OWNED BY THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE? WE HAVE LEASES IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE BEING ADMINISTRATED BY DEAN'S ORGANIZATION AT MARINA AND BEING ADMINISTRATED BY PUBLIC WORKS AND BEING ADMINISTRATED BY ENGINEERING AND BY FPRA AND BY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. THIS IS NO

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WAY TO RUN A REAL ESTATE COMPANY AND THE CITY HAS BROAD REAL ESTATE ASSETS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO MANY THAT WE CAN'T ENUMERATE THEM AND CAN'T GET A LIST OF WHAT THE CITY OWNERS, HOW IT'S TENANTED, WHO IS PAYING RENT AND WOULD ISN'T PAYING RENT MORE IMPORTANTLY, ET CETERA? THAT ORGANIZATIONAL CAPABILITIES DOES NOT EXIST. AND THIS TO ME IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF A REAL ESTATE COMPANY THAT HAS GONE ARIA AND THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AS A DIVISION OF THE CITY IS A REAL ESTATE COMPANY. WE HAVE NO OVERSIGHT IN THIS AREA AND I'M VERY, VERY DISTURBED OF THIS. THIS COULD JUST BE THE TIP OF ICEBERG AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED AND WE KNOW WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF TENANT DEFAULTS ON OTHER ISSUES THAT WE HEAR ABOUT AS IT BECOMES AN EGREGIOUS SITUATION. WHEN DO WE SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH AND PROPERLY MANAGE THE ASSETS OWNED BY THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE? I CHALLENGE THIS COMMISSION TO RESPOND TO MY CONCERNS BECAUSE WE'RE NOTE GOING TO RECAPTURE THESE FUNDS. THAT MONEY IS GONE AND ON THAT MATTER I WILL DISCUSS THE RESPONSE FROM A PHYSICAL ASSET PERSPECTIVE. QUESTION NO. 1 IS THIS IS AN ABANDONMENT OF THE PROPERTY. CORRECT? UNDER THE ABANDONMENT CAPABILITY STATE STATUTE, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE THE LOCKS AND SECURE THE FACILITY. HAVE WE DONE SO DOES ANYBODY KNOW THAT WE HAVE CHANGED THE LOCKS TO TAKE CONTROL OF THE FACILITY AND

SECURE THE FACILITY? HAVE WE DONE SO? >> MR. CHESS?

>> WE WERE TOLD AND LEGAL CAN JUMP INTO THIS, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO REMOVE THE ASSETS

THAT THEY PLACED INTO THE PROPERTY. >> THAT IS FINE, BUT WE CAN CONTROL THE FACILITY AND ALLOW THEM ACCESS TO DO THAT, CORRECT, MS. HEDGES? SO CLEARLY WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. SECONDLY, MY SECOND CONCERN, IF WE HAVEN'T CONDUCTED AN INSPECTION OF THIS FACILITY, WHAT MAKE ME NOT THINK A TENANT HAS WALKED WAY FROM THEIR LEASE, WALKED AWAY FROM THE FACILITY AND NOT LEFT THEIR REFRIGERATORS AND FREEZERS FULL OF DETERIORATING AND ROTTING MATERIAL BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT CONDUCTED AN INSPECTION TO DETERMINE WHAT THE CONDITION IS? SO OUT OF CONCERN, I CONTACTED FPUA MYSELF. AND I INQUIRED TO SEE IF THE POWER HAS BEEN TURNED OFF. FORTUNATELY TO-DATE IT HAS NOT. I ASKED IS THERE A STANDING ORDER TO TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE ONCE THE TENANT PUTS IN NOTIFICATION TO DETERMINANT ELECTRICAL POWER? NO, THERE IS NOT. I DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO DO THAT. HOW IT WORKSES IF A TENANT IS GOING TO SHOUT SHUT OFF THE POWER AND LANDLORD GETS THERE BEFORE THAT HAPPENS THEY SAY WE WANT THE ACCOUNT TURNED OVER TO US TO HAVE NO DISRUPTION OF SERVICE. THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE. MY QUESTION IS THE FACILITY SECURED? HAVE WE DONE AN INSPECTION? HAVE WE DONE AN INVENTORY OF WHAT IS IN THERE? HAVE WE CHANGED THE LOCKS AND ARE WE PREPARED TO DEAL WITH THE CLEAN OUT THAT SUBSEQUENTLY HAS TO TAKE PLACE? GUYS, THIS IS -- I THINK I SAID ENOUGH. YOU UNDERSTAND MY CONCERNS HERE AND RELATIVE TO THE STANDARD OF OPERATION IN THE INDUSTRY, WE'RE SO FAR OUT OF THE STANDARD, IT'S -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY GROSS MISMANAGEMENT OF THE ASSET, BUT SOMEBODY HAS TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHY WE'RE RECEIVING NOTIFICATION OF THIS MONTHS AFTER THE DEFAULT TAKES PLACE? IN MY COMPANY WE HAVE DELINQUENCY REPORTS ON THE 10TH THE MONTH AND RENT NOT PAID A DEMAND LETTER IS ISSUED TO THE TENANT. IT'S A 10-DAY DEMAND AND STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS IS DELE DAYS. WHY WE'RE BEYOND THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS IS NOT FOR DISCUSSION TODAY, BUT WE ISSUED A DEMAND LETTER TO TAKE COLLECTION ACTION, AND MOVE TO EVICT FOR NON-PAYMENT. FORTUNATELY THE TENANT DECIDED BECAUSE THAT WORKS -- THAT IS A TWO EDGED SWORD. YOU ISSUE THE LETTER OF DEMAND, THEY PAY THE RENT OR VACATE THE PREPONDERANCE. THEY CHOOSE TO VACATE. SO NOW WE HAVE AN EMPTY THY FACILITY IN MY OPINION THAT IS NOT SECURED, AND THE OUTSTANDING FINANCIAL DURESS THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO EXPERIENCE FROM THIS IS HORIFIC. I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT. YOU WILL LET EVERYBODY

ELSE CHIME-IN ON THIS. >> COMMISSIONERS? >> MADAM MAYOR, SO AS I LEARNED TO THE FACTS, I'M CONCERNED, AND CHALLENGED BY THE LEVEL OF DELINQUENCY HERE.

AND IT'S NOT -- IT'S YEARS; RIGHT? AND SO THIS GOES BACK TO THE INITIAL LEASE, BRINGING IN THE PARTNERSHIP. SO WE PUT THIS ON TONIGHT FOR DISCUSSION. FOR US UP HERE, THE FIVE, BECAUSE WE DON'T TALK BESIDES THIS. WE HAVE OUR STAFF MEETINGS. WE ALL KIND OF CAUGHT THIS LAST WEEK THROUGH SOCIAL, THEN SOME OF US MAY HAVE HAD CONVERSATION WITH MR.

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CHESS. BUT MR. CHESS, I THINK THIS IS GOING TO WARRANT SOME IMMEDIATE ACTIONS; RIGHT? SO I THINK THAT SOME THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED ARE LEGITIMATE, PARTICULARLY HAVE WE SECURED THIS ACTUAL FACILITY AND THE STATUS OF THAT? I THINK THAT WARRANTS SOME TYPE OF UPDATE TO US. SO THAT WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING; RIGHT? I'M NOT NECESSARILY CONCERNED ABOUT SOCIAL MEDIA AND ALL OF THE STUFF OUT THERE AND PEOPLE MAKING COMMENTS. THEY ARE FREE TO DO THAT. THAT IS THEIR OPINION, BUT HERE IS AN ASSET THAT IS ON THE WATER, THAT IN ESSENCE BELONGS TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THAT UPDATE. WHAT IS MORE CONCERNING THOUGH IS AS WE LOOK AT INTERNAL PROCEDURES, I THINK THIS CALLS FOR AN IMMEDIATE REVIEW OF -- NOT ONLY THIS, BUT ALL OF OUR LEASES QUITE FRANKLY, SO MUCH SO THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME OF THE ANSWERS AND I HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE DID THIS FAIL? BECAUSE IT SET FOR SO LONG WITHOUT COMING TO OUR ATTENTION IS QUITE FRANKLY, UNACCEPTABLE.

WE HAVE BEEN IN A STATE OF CHANGE IN COMPLEXITY SINCE TWO, THREE YEARS AGO, WHEN WE GOT THE CALL ON THE ARREST OF OUR CITY MANAGER. THIS IS A RESULT OF ALL OF THAT TURBULENCE OVER THAT TIME OF INTERIM THIS, NEW PEOPLE IN AND OUT BETWEEN THEN. WE HAVE GOT TO STEADY THE SHIP. THOSE THAT ARE IN POSITION IN THIS CITY THAT HAVE BEEN HERE KNEW THIS.

>> SOMEBODY DID. >> SOMEBODY KNEW THIS. AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND AND WE NEED STAFF TO UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYBODY HERE IS SAY LEADER. YOU CANNOT STICK YOUR HEAD IN THE SANDS RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE IT'S ALL HANDS ON DECK. WE HAVE GOT TO FIGURE THIS OUT AND UNDERSTAND WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO SUPPORT THIS? SO I SAY IT THAT WAY, BECAUSE QUITE

FRANKLY, MR. CHESS WAS NOT HERE THREE YEARS AGO. >> I AM NOT SAYING --

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. I'M CHALLENGING STAFF HERE. >> SOMEBODY WAS.

>> SOMEBODY WAS HERE. AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT ACCOUNTABILITY AND WHERE THAT IS AT BECAUSE THIS IS QUITE FRANKLY UNACCEPTABLE. THE LEASE, THEY WALKED WAY.

>> YES. >> THE TAX BILL THING, WHAT I DIDN'T -- OKAY. THAT KIND OF

CAUGHT ME A LITTLE BIT NOW. >> THAT IS LEE YEARS. THREE YEARS.

>> THAT IS THREE YEARS, SOMEBODY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO

ANSWERSES. >> COMMISSIONER DADOSKY. >> THANK YOU. I UNDERSTOOD THIS WAS GOING TO BE COMING TO US, OF COURSE, SOCIAL MEDIA, EVERYBODY CALLS EVERYBODY.

>> DID YOU HEAR HIM? >> SORRY. I JUST DON'T WANT TO YELL AT YOU GUYS. SO I SAW THAT THIS WAS COMING. I SENT EVERY ITERATIONS OF THIS PROPERTY AND WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED. SO I PROVIDED THAT FOR MR. CHESS AND FOR THE ATTORNEY, AND I THOUGHT MY FIRST CONVERSATION WAS REALLY GOING TO BE ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF ASSIGNMENT OF THE LEASE. NOW COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, YOU GAVE ME A FEW MORE PIECES OF INFORMATION I DID NOT HAVE, AND THAT IS WHY WE HAVE THESE PUBLIC MEETINGS. THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE AND I'M GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU MY POSITION, SINCE I WAS JUST RUNNING, AND I'M SORRY TO KEEP BRINGING IT UP. WHEN YOU ARE RUNNING FOR A POSITION, YOU BRING UP ALL OF THE IDEAS AND THINGS YOU SEE AS A CHALLENGE FROM OUTSIDE SAYING YOU ARE GOING TO FIX THEM. THESE ARE FOUNDATIONAL ISSUES WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD CHANGEOVER AND SO AND SO FORTH. WE HAD A LOT OF TEMPORARY FOLKS AND SO ON. THE FOUNDATIONAL MANAGEMENT OF THE CITY NEEDS TO BE CHANGED. THAT IS GOING TO BE UP TO US TO CREATE THE POLICIES AND THE PROCEDURES AND PROVIDING THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY MANAGER; THE CLERK AND THE ATTORNEY TO MOVE THESE THINGS FORWARD. EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS ARE GOING TO BE ABSOLUTELY GOING TO HAVE TO BE A PART OF THE ANSWER. THERE'S PLENTY OF BLAME TO GO AROUND. THE IDEA IS THE BLAME IS THERE, OUR JOB NOW IS TO PROVIDE THE POLICIES NECESSARY TO GUIDE THE SHIP. I HATE TO SAY IT BECAUSE IT'S IN THE MARINA. ANYWAY, THIS IS VERY SERIOUS. WE NEED POLICIES FROM THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, FINANCE, PLANNING, THERE'S PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY IF ALL THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO START FOUNDATION PLANNING AND FIXING THESE THINGS GOING

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FORWARD. I HAVE HAD MY CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. CHESS. I HAVE EXPLAINED TO HIM MY POSITION ON THINGS, AND I THINK WITH THE STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS COMING UP THAT IS GOING TO BE A LAUNDRY ROOM FOR ALL OF THE ISSUES AND STARTING THE PROCESS OF REBUILDING THIS CITY HALL. WE'RE NO LONGER THEPODUNCK LITTLE TOWN FORT PIERCE. THE CITY IS ON THE RISE AND THE CITY WILL SEE GROWTH. THESE ISSUES ARE NOT SIMPLY FORT PIERCE'S ISSUES.

WE HAD -- THEY HAD THE SAME ISSUES AT THE COUNTY. AIRPORT PROPERTIES WITH TENANTS FOR 3-4 YEARS THAT NEVER PAID A DIME. THEY DID ALL KIND OF RENOVATIONS ON HANGARS THAT WEREN'T PERMITTED UNTIL 3-4 YEARS LATER, UNTIL WE FIND OUT, WE'LL USE THE TERM "WHISTLE-BLOWER." WHY ARE THOSE PEOPLE THERE AND THEY ARE NOT PAYING LEASE? SO CITIES AND COUNTIES AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES ARE TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE LANDLORDS BECAUSE THERE'S NO CENTRAL LOCATION TO MANAGE THE LEASES, THE OVERSIGHT, AND THE FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY OF MAKING SURE EVERYTHING IS BEING DONE PROPERLY. SO YES, WE CAN ALL BE ANGRY, BUT OUR JOB NOW, THE FIVE OF US WITH OUR STAFF IS TO DEVELOP THE POLICIES NECESSARY TO CHANGE EVERYTHING FROM THE FOUNDATION UP, AND BE THE CITY WE'RE GOING TO BE, AND HAVE THOSE STOPGAP PLURS MEASURES TO BE A PROSPEROUS CITY.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES? >> I WILL FOLLOW-UP FROM COMMISSIONER DZADSOVSKY. THE MILK HAS SPILLED, SO TO SPEAK. DON'T CRY OVER SPILLED MILK, THE MILK HAS SPILLED. FROM MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY MANAGER. HAS PUT UP A PLAN THAT WE WON'T SEE THIS AGAIN. HE IS ALREADY DEVELOPING THAT PLAN. SO COMMISSIONER BOARD OF BRODERICK, YOU SAID IT BETTER THAN I COULD. I DIDN'T KNOW HOW FAR TO GO WHEN YOU BROUGHT IT UP. THIS IS A TIME NOW TO START RELYING ON WHATEVER HAPPENED IN THE PAST, WHOEVER WAS HERE IN THE PAST, WHOEVER KNEW, WHOEVER KNEW THIS, THIS IS THE TIME TONIGHT, TODAY, TO SAY, GOING FORWARD IN FORT PIERCE, IF YOU DO BUSINESS WITH CITY OF FORT PIERCE, HERE ARE THE RULES. HERE ARE WHATEVER AND IT'S UP TO THE FIVE OF US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THESE RULES LISTED 1, 2, 3, OR A, B, C AND WE FOLLOW THE RULES. LIKE YOU SAID, COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. ANY OTHER BUSINESS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, WOULD HAVE BEEN TERMINATED THIS CONTRACT, WOULD HAVE NEVER LET IT GO THIS FAR. DON'T KNOW WHY -- WE'LL PROBABLY FIND OUT. MY JOB SITTING IN THIS SEAT IS TO MAKE SURE AFTER FEBRUARY, WHAT IS IT? THE 17TH. THE 17TH. FEBRUARY 17TH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T COME NEXT YEAR OR IF I'M RE-ELECTED AGAIN, LET'S DEAL WITH IT TODAY AND PUT PARAMETERS AND RULES IN TODAY.

LET'S STAFF KNOW, HEY GUYS IT'S NOT STATUS QUO ANY MORE. THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO, AND THIS IS HOW WE WANT TO GO. SO YOU KNOW, I HAVE TALKED TO MR. CHESS. HE UNDERSTANDS HOW I FEEL. AND TO STAFF THAT ARE LISTENING, WE GOT TO DO BETTER. DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BALL WAS DROPPED. IT WAS DROPPED. LET'S PICK IT UP AND MAKE SURE IT'S NOT DROPPED AGAIN.

>> FOLLOW-UP WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. >> SO I THINK YOU CAN'T -- THE FIRST THING YOU GOT TO DO IS HAVE THE INFORMATION. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE -- THIS COMMISSION HAS BEEN ASKING FOR, AND HAS SAID, IS THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHERE ALL THE CONTRACTS ARE? WHO IS MANAGING THEM? WHO IS IN CHARGE? WHO IS FOLLOWING THEM? AND EVEN IF WE SAID WE HAD EXPECTATIONS, NOBODY SEEMED TO BE SAYING OKAY, NOW I'M GOING TO ENFORCE THOSE -- MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE MAKE THOSE EXPECTATIONS. SO MR. CHESS AND I HAD A CONVERSATION JUST TODAY ABOUT IT. BECAUSE NOT ONLY DO WE NEED TO KNOW, DOES HE NEED TO KNOW -- HE NEEDS TO KNOW TO BE ABLE TO TELL US. AND HE, HE NEEDS TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION, AND I THINK THAT YOU -- THAT YOU HAD TOLD ME THAT A DEPARTMENT WAS PUTTING TOGETHER

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A LIST OF ALL OF THE CONTRACTS, AND WHEN THEY'RE EXPIRED, AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH THEM? AND THAT, SOMEBODY NEEDSS TO BE PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT, AND THE TAX THING IS VERY CONCERNING, BECAUSE NOBODY WAS PAYING ATTENTION TO WHETHER THEY REIMBURSED -- NOBODY WAS PAYING A ATTENTION AND NEED ACCOUNTABILITY. SO I THINK WE NEED TO SET DOWN SOME EXPECTATIONS OF THINGS THAT THIS COMMISSION NEEDS TO KNOW, AND WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE PLAN IS GOING FORWARD. I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, MR. CHESS, TODAY, WAS AN AGING -- A DOCUMENT FOR AGING IN TERMS OF AGING RECEIVABLES.

>> RESPOND TO YOU ALL. >> ABSOLUTELY. GO AHEAD. YOU CAN RESPOND.

>> CERTAINLY. I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT THIS AS WELL. THIS IS WHAT I DID IN MY PRIOR LIFE INTIMATELY. I SHARE YOUR SENTIMENTS AND THE DAY I FOUND OUT ABOUT IT, FIVE OR SIX DAYS LATER, I SENT A LETTER TO CURE. I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE BEHIND IN THE LEASE PAYMENTS AND NOT AWARE THEY WERE BEHIND IN THE PROPERTY TAXES. THE MOMENT I FOUND OUT I DRAFTED A LETTER WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND SHARED WITH THE PROJECT MANAGER AND THE MANAGER OF THE MARINA AND COLLABORATED AND I HAD IT SENT OUT AND RETURN RECEIVED. WHEN THEY RECEIVED THAT LETTER, THEY HAD TO CURE IT. WE SAID THE CITY WILL TAKE FURTHER LEGAL ACTION , IF NECESSARY.THAT IS AS STRONG AS THAT LANGUAGE WAS IN THE CURE LETTER. SO VERY CONCERNED THAT I WASN'T TOLD ABOUT THAT. AND THE MOMENT I POUND OUT TO COMMISSIONER GAINES POINT, I IMMEDIATELY SHUT IT DOWN. GIVE US OUR MONEY. WHAT IS THE PLAN GOING FORWARD? IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE DOING INTERNALLY. I DON'T KNOW WHO IS MAKING THE STATEMENT WE DON'T KNOW WHERE OUR LEASES ARE? WE HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE PROPERTYING AND THE MANAGERS RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING THOSE PROPERTIES. I HAVE A CONTRACT TOOL, AN EXCEL SHEET WE HAVE GIVEN TO ALL DIRECTORS, THAT THEY SHARE WITH MANAGERS. THEY ARE TOLD TO GO THROUGH ALL THEIR CONTRACTS, AND LET ME KNOW WHEN THE CONTRACT EXPIRES? ARE WE GOING TO PUT AN RFP OUT? ARE WE GOING TO RENEW IT? IN A TIMELY MANNER. WE STARTED THIS TWO MONTHS AGO. SO WE'LL GET YOU ALL THE INFORMATION WE'LL NEED. IT'S NOT FULLY UPDATE AND POPULATED YET. WE KNOW CLEARLY ALL OUR LEASE ELEMENTS ARE, WE HAVE A TOOL TO MANAGE OUR LEASES, THAT THE STAFF HAS WHICH THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD TO UPDATE AND CONTINUOUSLY COLLABORATE WITH PROCUREMENT ON THAT. THE PAST TWO MONTHS THE STAFF HAVE DONE AN PHENOMENAL DRAFT OF GIVING ME DRAFT POLICIS AND PROCEDURES ACROSS THE DEPARTMENTS AND VARIOUS DISCIPLINES. THIS NOTION THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE LEASES ARE IS NOT CORRECT AND THE STAFF IS PUTTING TOGETHER THE ANALYSIS TO GET RFPS ON THE ROAD. I DID PUT A PROPERTY MANAGER POSITION IN THE BUDGET.

IT WAS TAKEN OUT. YOU ALL KNOW THAT. I HAD THAT IN THERE TO GET THAT POSITION TO CENTRALIZE THE PROCESS. I'M STILL LOOKING TO BRING ON A DEPUTY CITY MANAGER TO HELP ME WITH THAT PROCESS. WE'RE NOT HAPPY ABOUT THIS AND THIS IS NOT HOW WE CONDUCT BUSINESS.

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

IT DOESN'T WORK WITH 5-10 DAYS BUT WITH THE AGING SCHEDULE, TAKING 30-60, 90-121 DAYS. BY THE TIME YOU GET TO 120 DAYS YOU ARE NOT GETTING YOUR MONEY AND THAT IS WHERE WE'RE. WHEN THAT DEMAND LETTER WENT OUT, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY, FOUR MONTHS, THAT IS

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THE STANDARD. SO WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN TOLD ABOUT THAT. I DISCUSSED THIS WITH STAFF. I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT. I SHOULDN'T BE HERE DISCUSSING WHAT WE DIDN'T DO RIGHT WHEN WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO BASICALLY BAILED ON US AND DIDN'T PAY THEIR OBLIGATION. WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS WITH PROCESSS IN PLACE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT PROCEEDWISE AND GETTING THE AGE SCHEDULE. I HAVEN'T COME HERE TO BE A CFO, BUT TO LOOK AT DOCUMENTS TO KNOW WHAT IS OUTSTANDING, I WILL DO THAT WITH THE SUMMER OF HEYSES THAT YOU ASKED FOR. STAFF IS GOING TO DO THEIR JOB. I'M NOT DOING STAFF'S JOB, BUT I WILL MONITOR CERTAIN SITUATIONS UNTIL WE GET PROPER MANAGEMENT IN PLACE IN OTHER AREAS. AS FAR AS THE LEASES ARE CONCERNED, WE KNOW WHERE THEY ARE. WE KNOW WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING THE LEASES. WE'RE UPDATING THE DUE DATES OF ALL LEASES AND KNOW IT'S A CUMULATIVE PROCESS IN TERMS OF PULLING THAT TOGETHER.

WE DO HAVE A TOOL IN PLACE THAT DETECT SOMEONE'S NOT PAYING, WHICH IS OUR AGING

RECEIVE ABLES SCHEDULE TO LOOK AT WITH THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. >> YOU NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING SOMEPLACE SO IT DOESN'T GET THREE YEARS BEHIND. THESE ARE MONTHLY PAYMENTS.

>> COMMUNICATION. NOT TO GET TOO DETAILED WITH, OUR PREVENTATIVE AND DETECTIVE MEASURES. THE CONNECTIVE MEASURE BEHIND IT, WHICH IS THE THIRD MEASURE IS TO COMMUNICATE

THAT. THAT WASN'T COMMUNICATED SO WE KNEW IT WASN'T PAID. >> SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TRIGGER

THAT. SOMEHOW. >> MADAM MAYOR, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO JUST TALK TO US, TALK TO ME AT LEAST AND LET ME KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON. I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION. I WILL STOP HERE BECAUSE STAFF WORKS REALLY HARD IN OTHER AREAS. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE STAFF ISN'T DOING THEIR JOB IN A WIDESPREAD WAY, BUT SOMEBODY SHOULD HAVE LET ME

KNOW WE WERE EXPERIENCING THIS SITUATION WITH CRABBIES. >> YOU DIDN'T KNOW AND WE

DIDN'T KNOW. >> IT WAS A COMMUNICATION WITH CRABBY'S MANAGEMENT AND THEY TOLD US SOMETHING AND THAT JUST STAYED THERE AND WENT ON FOR THREE MORE MONTHS. WE HAVE ADDRESSED IT AND KNOW WHAT THE ISSUE IS. WE HAVE A PLAN. WE HAVE A DETECTION, IT'S IMPORTANT TO DETECT WHAT THE ISSUES ARE. ONCE WE DETECT IT, WE TAKE ACTION AND MOVE FORWARD. I WILL KEEP YOU INVOLVED AND INFORMED ON ANYTHING THAT WE DETECT, AS LONG AS I KNOW ABOUT IT. AS I SAID, WITH THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION, THE MOMENT I FOUND OUT, THREE, FOUR DAYS WE HAD THE LETTER THAT SAID STOP, PAY US OUR MON.

>> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE? >> FROM MY PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE I'M GOING TO SUGGEST THAT WE NEED THIS INFORMATION DOMICILED IN ONE LOCATION, SPREADING ACROSS MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS SEEMS NONSENSICKICAL TO ME

>> IT'S IN ONE LOCATION, IT'S IN PROCUREMENT. ALL THE CONTRACTS COMES OUT OF PROCUREMENT AND WHAT PROCUREMENT'S RESPONSIBILITY GO TO DINNER DEPARTMENTS. WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PROCESSES, RFP PROCESS AND PROJECT AND PROCUREMENT DOESN'T MANAGER THE INDIVIDUAL CONTRACTS. THE DEPARTMENTS AND PROJECT MANAGER DOES THAT. THEY SHOULD BE MANAGE THE CONTRACTS AND DLIVERABLES AND WHAT IS BEING EXECUTED AND NOT BEING EXECUTED. PROCURIOSITY'S JOB IS TO HAVE ALL CONTRACTS AND FOR RENEWAL AND FOR RFP. SO THEY HAVE GOT ALL CONTRACTS TOGETHER WITH INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT HEADS TO UPDATE THEIR SECTION OF THEIR DEPARTMENT CONTRACTS, GET THEM BACK TO YOU, SO YOU CAN START MONITORING RENEWALS.

AS FAR AS KONG TRACT MANAGEMENT, THAT IS NOT PROCUREMENT'S ROLE. THAT IS THE DEPARTMENT'S ROLE. CONTRACT MANAGEMENT AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT, THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO GET ON TOP OF. WE HAVE ISSUES WITH RENEWALS. AND I SAID, WE THINK THAT WE HAVE ANG RFP PROBLEM. NO, THE RFPS, THEY WILL GET IN LINE WITH OUR PROCESS. WE HAVE PROCUREMENT CODES. WE HAVE A PROCESS WITH RFPS. CONTRACT MANAGEMENT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH, BECAUSE CONTRACT MANAGEMENT PROPERLY SOMEONE ON THE OTHER SIDES AS WELL, THE PROJECT MANAGER SHOULD HAVE SEEN THIS AS WELL. FINANCE IS RESPONSIBLE. SO WE HAVE TWO THINGS GOING ON, THE CONTRACT PMANAGER AND PROJECT MANAGER SHOULD HAVE KNOWN MY MONEY ISN'T HITTING THE BUDGET, WHY AM I NOT GETTING MY REVENUE? WE HAVE CHECKS AND BALANCES HERE. AS A PROJECT MANAGER, I SHOULD KNOW MY REVENUES AND EXPENSES ON A MONTHLY BASIS. IF I'M NOT SEEING REVENUES POP LATED OVER 3-4--MONTH PERIOD, GO TO THE FINANCE DIRECTOR AND WHAT IS GOING ON? THAT IS NOT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO POST THE ENTRIES. THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT IS TO POST THE ENTRIES AND IF YOU ARE NOT GETTING THE MONEY LET ME KNOW.

AS FAR AS PROCUREMENT IS CONCERNED ALL THE CONTRACTS COME OUT OF PROCUREMENT. THE

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PROJECT MANAGERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING THE CONTRACTS AND PROCUREMENT SHOULD BE NOTIFIED. WHEN THE CONTRACT EXPIRES, YOU SHOULD START THE RFP PROCESS. SO WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THAT, BUT TO TAKE IT OUT OF PROCUREMENT TO PUT IN A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT OFFICE WOULD BE THE BEING EMPOWERED AND SAFE BET WITH CENTRALIZING THIS. I HAVE DONE THIS AS CFO ACCOUNTING AND AUDITING DIRECTOR, I KNOW THE CONTROLS THAT MUST BE IN PLACE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. OUR STAFF MUST CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIOR.

>> I COULDN'T AGREE MORE. THIS THERE ARE MULTI-TIERED FAILURES HERE AND TALKING ABOUT FUNDING OF A PROPERTY MANAGEMENT POSITION, WE LOST MORE MONEY THAT THAT POSITION WOULD HAVE COST US. THAT LEADS ME TO MY NEXT QUESTION AND I POSE THIS QUESTION -- I'M REALLY NOT CONCERN TO WHOM. I HAVE STRUCTURE WAS BUILT BY THE TENANT. WE OWN THE LAND, THEY BUILT THE STRUCTURE. WE NEED TO FIND OUT IMMEDIATELY IF THERE'S SOME TYPE OF SUBORDINATION TO A MORTGAGE COMPANY AND WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM NOTICE.

>> WE HAVE TITLE WORK BEING DONE. >> SO HAVE WE ORDERED TITLE SEARCH ON THIS TO DETERMINE IF THERE IS SOME TYPE OF SUBORDINATION THAT WE HAVE TO DEFAULT THE MORTGAGE HOLDER? THIS COULD GET VERY UGLY VERY QUICKLY. AND WE NEED ALL OF THE FACTS IN FRONT OF US TO MAKE IT A CLEAR PLAN TO DEAL WITH THE DEPALESTINE. I CAN ASSURE YOU SOMEBODY IS OWED MONEY ON THE STRUCTURE THERE. IT'S NOT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. SO WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT AS WELL. THE IDEA OF THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART YOU ARE GETTING TO, EXCEPT FOR COMMISSIONER DEPARTMENT OF DZADSOVSKY, I HAVE ASKING FOR THIS INFORMATION FOR TWO YEARS NOW AS A LIST OF PROPERTY OWNED BY THE CITY, A SPREADSHEET AS FAR AS RENTAL, CURRENT VACANCIES, ET CETERA. FOR A PORTFOLIO OF LEASES BY THE CITY. I SECURE ALL THE DOCUMENTATION RELATIVE TO IT. I DO A DEEP-DIVE INTO EVERY ONE REAL ESTATE SITUATIONS THAT THE CITY FINDS ITSELF IN. I MUST HAVE 15 OF THESE SITTING ON MY CREDENZA RIGHT NOW. I AM VERY FRUSTRATED WITH THAT AS THE CITY MANAGER IS INDICATING IF WE HAVE A DELINQUENCY, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. I'M A PRIVATE ENTERPRISE YOU ARE DELINQUENT AFTER TEN DAYS I'M COMING AFTER YOU, A GOOD LINE ABOUT THE MOVIE GOOD FELLAS ABOUT THAT.

I UNDERSTAND THE 30-DAY, 60-DAY DELINQUENCY, FOUR MONTHS BEFORE WE TAKE ACTION IS SIMPLY UNACCEPTABLE. THERE'S MULTIPLE FAILURES AND THOSE NEED TO BE ADDRESSED MOVING FORWARD. THE OTHER THING IS GUYS, FROM A MANAGERIAL PERSPECTIVE, WHICH WE ARE MANAGERIAL PEOPLE HERE, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT DOES THE CITY OWN? WHAT ARE WE CHECKING FOR INCOME? WHO IS IN DEFAULT? WHO IS NOT DOING WITH A THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING WITH THE REAL ESTATE? WE NEED THAT ANALYTICKAL DATA AS WELL. YOU ARE SAYING THE CITY IS WORKING ON COMPILING ALL OF THAT. THAT IS NOT AN EASY UNDERTAKING BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS TO ANALYZE ALL OF THESE LEASES BECAUSE THESE LEASES WITH ALL DIFFERENT. THERE'S A STOCK, THERE'S A FORM THAT WE USE AND IT'S DOCKED UP SIGNIFICANTLY. EVERY ONE IS DIFFERENT. FEATHER ABOUT THE SUBORDINATION THAT WILL COME THROUGH IN THE TITLE SEARCH, WHO IS AUDITING THE PERCENTAGE

LEASES? ARE WE AUDITING THE NUMBERS? >> MAKING SURE OF THAT, YES.

>> WE NEED SOMEONE WITH EYES ON THESE VERY IMPORTANT ISSUES. THIS IS OUR MONEY, OUR TAXPAYER MONEY. INCOME TO THE CITY. AND GOD ONLY KNOWS WE'RE DESPERATE FOR INCOME. I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT. MR. CHESS HAS A SOLUTION TO MOVE THIS FORWARD AND GET THE INFORMATION THAT THIS COMMISSION NEEDS. I WILL LOOK AT THOSE SPREADSHEETS AND SAY I THINK WE NEED TO ADD THIS OR THAT AND GIVE THE SUGGESTIONS TO MR. CHESS.

>> I WILL GIVE YOU THE SUMMARY YOU HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR, THE LEASES, RENT AMOUNTS, RENT AMOUNTS THAT ARE DUE OR OVERDUE TO US. I WILL PUT IT IN A SIMPLE FORM. WHO THE

TENANT IS? THE AMOUNT THEY OWE. >> YES. >> THE AMOUNT THEY PAY PER

MONTH, AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE OVERDUE? >> PAYMENT STATUS.

>> WE CAN DO THAT. >> EVERY ONE OF THESE LEASE S DIFFERENT. IF I SOUND ANGRY, I'M PISSED. THAT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IS GETTING HIT FOR ANOTHER QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS

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JUST LIKE THAT. THAT WE'RE OUT. AND TO HAVE A THREE-YEAR DEFAULT IN A LEASE ISSUE, GUYS, THIS IS NO WAY TO RUN OUR OPERATIONS, PERIOD. MR. CHESS HAS A SOLUTION HERE THAT IS IMPLEMENTING AND HAS BEEN WORKING ON APPARENTLY THAT I WAS UNAWARE OF. I DID NOT KNOW THAT INFORMATION WAS BEING ACCUMULATED AND DIGESTED, ET CETERA. THAT IS A GREAT START, BUT WE NEED TO GET SERIOUS ABOUT THE ASSETS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND HOW WE'RE MANAGING THOSE MOVING FORWARD? THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS. I ASSURE YOU IF OTHER TENANTS IN CITY-OWNED PROPERTY THINK THIS HIGH-PROFILE TENANT CAN GET AWAY WITH THIS, WHY CAN'T I? TRUST ME, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. THIS IS NOT AN ISOLATED SITUATION.

>> MR. CHESS, ONE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT THOUGH IS THAT WHEN WE TOOK THAT POSITION OUT

YOU WOULD HAVE THE NEW DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. >> THAT IS STILL THE PLAN.

>> YOU ARE IN THE PROCESS OF HIRING THAT PERSON, ISN'T THAT RIGHT? RIGHT. OKAY. SO I THINK THIS MAKES IT EVEN MORE IMPERATIVE THAT YOU HAVE HELP FOR THAT.

>> WE'RE CLOSING OUT THE INTERVIEWS THIS WEEK. AND WHEN WE MAKE A DECISION AND

RECOMMENDATION ON DCM NEXT WEEK. >> THAT PERSON I'M THINKING SHOULD BE A BIG HELP TO YOU IN THIS AREA, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE PLAN WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE BUDGET.

>> EXACTLY, AND IT'S STILL THE PLAN. >> ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO

CHIME-IN HERE? >> I'M GOING TO CLOSE THIS OUT. YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS ON THE AGENDA, OUR DISCUSSION HERE; RIGHT? THIS IS A TOUGH PART OF ONE FORT PIERCE, THE TOUGH CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE TO BE HAD. THESE ARE THE TOUGH THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO FACE AS ONE COMMISSION AND WE HAVE TO FIX THIS. AND WE WILL FIX IT; RIGHT? AND SO TO THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE WATCHING THIS RIGHT NOW, THIS IS HOW WE HAVE TO HAVE PUBLIC DEBATE, WE DON'T GO INTO A MEETING. WE HAVE THE PUBLIC DEBATE IN THE PUBLIC TO EVERYBODY CAN SEE EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE. TO DIFFERENT LEVELS OF DEGREE, WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN WAY OF EXHIBITING OUR LEVEL OF PASSION, AND OUR LEVEL OF FRUSTRATION WITH THIS. I'M SOMEWHAT BETTER THAN I WAS A FEW MINUTES AGO, KNOWING THAT WE HAVE A PLAN. AND SOME OF IT HAS BEEN EXECUTED ON. OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE HEY, STAFF IS HERE EVERY DAY. THIS IS YOUR JOB. YOU ARE THE LEADER OF STAFF IN THIS BUILDING. AND STAFF HAS TO UNDERSTAND THAT LEADERSHIP IS JUST NOT YOU. STAFF IS ALSO IN LEADERSHIP POSITIONS. AND THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY -- YOU NEED TO CONVEY THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE CONVEYING INFORMATION. THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY. BECAUSE FOR THREE YEARS, THIS UGLY THING WAS SITTING ON SOMEBODY'S AREA OF RESPONSIBILITY, AND THEY SAID NOTHING. THEY REALLY ARE NOT BUYING INTO WHAT I CALL ONE FORT PIERCE. ONE FIVE FORT PIERCE IS NOT JUST US, BUT STAFF TOO. WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT AND DEFEND STAFF, BUT STAFF TO UNDERSTAND I BO RATHER KNOW IT'S NOT GOOD AND HAVE A CHANCE TO FIX IT RATHER THAN FIND OUT ABOUT IT IN THE PAPER IF I COULD MAKE A STATEMENT, THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE BILLING ON THE PROPERTY TAXES WHERE THEY WERE NOT BILLED. WE DID NOT RECEIVE THAT FROM THE COUNTY. SO THERE WAS A SITUATION, I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEBODY COULD EXPOUND ON IT, BUT THERE WAS AN ISSUE THAT THE COUNTY DID NOT GIVE US THE PROPERTY TAXES FOR US TO INVOICE THE TENANT. AND THAT IS WHERE THERE'S A GAP WITH THAT AND THAT ALL HAPPENED AT ONE TIME. ALTHOUGH IT SOUND LIKE IT HAPPENED OVER A 12 -MONTH PERIOD. IT DOESN'T HAPPEN LIKE THAT. WHEN WE RECEIVED THE LATE BILL, THAT IS WHEN WE SENT IT TO THE TENANT ONE-TIME. SO IT CASCUMULATIVE. WE NEVER RECEIVED THE PROPERTY TAXESS FROM THE COUNTY TO PAY -- TO BILL THE TENANT. SO I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND, THE AUDIENCE AND LISTENING PUBLIC IT WASN'T A SITUATION THAT WENT ONE, TWO, THREE YEARS AND DIDN'T GET THE BILL. THE COUNTY GAVE US THREE YEARS' OF BILLS AT ONE TIME. WE PAID IT AND THEN WE BILLED THE TENANT AND THEY DIDN'T PAY IT. SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR. IT'S NOT ON THE STAFF WHEREAS, THEY LET THESE BILLS GO OVER 36 -MONTH PERIOD. IT DOESN'T HAPPEN THAT WAY. WE HAD NO DOCUMENTATION

TO BILL THEM, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T RECEIVE THE BILL. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT. THANK

YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. >> IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE KNOW THAT.

>> I FEEL A LITTLE BIT BETTER. HOW DO WE GO AND WE DON'T KNOW THERE'S A BRAND-NEW BUILDING

AND WE DON'T REALIZE WE'RE COLLECTING PROPERTY TAXES? >> OKAY.

>> IT'S MORE DETAIL. I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. IT'S STILL NOT COMFORTABLE, BUT

THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED. >> COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER DZADSOVSKY.

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>> THIS GOES BACK TO AND LET'S UNDERSTAND, HERE IS A CLEAR EXAMPLE THAT WE NEED FULL TRANSPARENCY, FULL DISCLOSURE OF EVERYTHING GOING ON AND DO A MEA CULPA, AND SAY, THERE WERE FAILURES AND MOVE FORWARD. THE PUBLIC WILL ATTACK US AND GET ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND GRANDSTAND AND THAT IS NOT OUR WORRY. OUR WORRY, OUR FUNCTION IS TO CREATE AND FIX THE FOUNDATIONAL ISSUES, GIVING MR. CHESS THE POLICIES NECESSARY TO MAKE THE IMPORTANT CHANGES THAT WE NEED.

THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, THE PURCHASING PROCESS, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE INCREDIBLINGLY IMPORTANT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD. SO THERE IS ALREADY PUBLIC INTEREST OUTSIDE INVESTORS, AND COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, GOING TO LEAN ON YOUR EXPERTISE IN THE COMMERCIAL LEASE SIDE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE. AND I'M GOING TO HOPE THAT YOU BRING THAT TO THE TABLE WHEN WE'RE THERE OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS AND HELP TO GIVE THAT EXPERIENCE AND INFORMATION TO MR. CHESS AND STAFF, SO WE CAN FOREGO SOME OF THE SHORT-TERM CHALLENGES WITH YOUR KNOWLEDGE UPFRONT WILL BE VERY HELPFUL FROM THE STRATEGIC

PLANNING SIDES. >> PLANE CRASHES DON'T JUST HAPPEN, THEY ARE 5, 6,7, 8, 10, 12 MISTAKES BEFORE THEY HAPPEN AND WE'RE SEEING THAT IS EXACTLY HAPPENED HERE. MANY

MISTAKES GOING THROUGH. THE PLANE CRASHED. >> PERFECT STORM.

>> PERFECT STORM. LET'S JUST HOPE THAT WE HAVE SULLY ON BOARD AND EVERYBODY SURVIVES.

>> SO MR. CHESS, ARE WE -- WE'RE CLEAR? >> ABSOLUTELY CLEAR.

>> EVERYBODY CLEAR? OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON. >> NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM

[14. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

THE PUBLIC. >> THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO COME BEFORE THE COMMISSION AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. MS. COX WILL GIVE YOU A TEN-SECOND WARNING, AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. I KNOW WHO YOU ARE, BUT THE RECORD NEEDS TO

KNOW. >> FLORAS JOHNSON, FORT PIERCE, 19TH STREET. THIS WAS GOOD. I'M GLAD I STAYED. I HAD ANOTHER MEETING TO GET TO. AND SOME WORDS THAT COME OUT ACCOUNTABILITY, AND LOOKING AT HOW THINGS ARE RUN. I APPRECIATE THE ISSUES THAT COMMISSIONER BRODERICK BROUGHT OUT, AND OF COURSE, THE COMMENTS FROM MR. CHESS. I HAVE SEEN THIS ON AN INTERVAL-LEVEL WITH PROJECTS IN AFRICA EVEN. THERE'S A TIME THAT THINGS HAVE TO BE SHAKEN UP, THE OLD WAY OF DOING THINGS CANNOT STAY THE SAME. SO WE HAVE GOT TO LOOK AT WAYS OF FIXING THINGS, WORKING THINGS AND WORKING WITH STAFF AND ACCOUNTABILITY IS KEY. COMMUNICATION IS KEY. WE LIVE IN A BEAUTIFUL CITY. I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE FOR MOST PART AND THE ONE FORT PIERCE CONCEPT IS IMPORTANT. IT'S CRITICAL. LOOKING AT -- AND I'M PUTTING MY LITTLE ENVIRONMENTAL HAT ON. THE GARDEN CLUB BUILDING. THAT WHOLE AREA IN THERE, I HAVE DRIVEN WHEN WE HAD STRONG RAIN EVENTS, AND I'M JUST SITTING THERE WONDERING HOW CAN THERE BE STUDIES? BECAUSE I WAS TAKING A NEIGHBOR TO WORK AT ONE OF THOSE SIDE STREETS THERE. I FORGET, BUT THAT RAIN, AND I HAVE A HONDA PILOT AND IT WAS ABOVE THE WHEEL. THAT RAIN CAME, SO THE DRAINAGE IS REAL LOW SLOPE IN THAT. SO OVER IN LINCOLN PARK AREA, DOWN AVENUE I FROM LINCOLN PARK, I HAVE WITNESSED THAT. SO IN THE FUTURE WITH ENGINEERING, AND STUFF HAVING A GOOD, STRONG LOOK AT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AS FAR AS STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. WITH THE BEACH RENOURISHMENT.

WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THAT. COASTAL RESILIENCY IS IMPORTANT WHEN WE ARE DOING PLANNING AND ZONING AND THINGS COME UP WITH DEVELOPMENT. BUT WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL, TUNED IN AND TALKING TO ONE ANOTHER. A COUPLE OF OTHER POINTS, BUT I WILL COME BACK LATER. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION, PLEASE COME

FORWARD? ANYONE ELSE? >> DO I HAVE TO SAY MY NAME? >> PLEASE.

>> MY NAME IS GERMYERIC MURAL. >> WHERE DO YOU LIVE? >> FORT PIERCE 916 AVENUE H.

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I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT I'M PRETTY PLEASED WITH THE CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE BEING HAD. YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK. ME BEING A RESIDENT HERE, AND I PERSONALLY JUST, YOU KNOW, BEING AWARE OF CRABBY SITUATION. I PERSONALLY THOUGHT IT WAS A NICE ATTRACTION AT THAT AREA. SO AGAIN, I'M HAPPY WITH THE WAY THAT THINGS ARE GOING IN SPITE OF EVERYTHING THAT HAS OCCURRED, OR THAT WHAT HAS

RECENTLY HAPPENED OF THANK YOU. >> S THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE WISHING? ANYONE ELSE?

>> MY NAME IS DAN KENDAL AND LIVE AT 20 ORANGE AVENUE AND WE HAVE REALLY BEEN ENJOYING CRABBIES. WE HAD NO IDEA THIS WAS GOING ON OF I DO KNOW THE MANAGER OVER THERE AND COUPLE THINGS. ONE IS THAT -- THIS IS JUST WHAT I HAVE HEARD. THERE WERE COMPLAINT ABOUT WORK THAT SOMEHOW THE CITY IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN DOING ALONG THE WAY ON THAT BUILDING. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FEW OR NOT AND THE WHOLE $20 MILLION DEAL ON THE MARINA. HE WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT NO PARKING, AND NO ACCESS TO CRABBY'S AND MY OPINION, AND THIS IS STRICTLY OFF THE TOP HERE IS THAT THEY WERE DOOMED WITH THE $21 MILLION DEAL, BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T GOING TO HAVE ANY ACCESS OR ANY PARKING OR ANYTHING. THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO GET OUT OF THIS, HAD NO IDEA ABOUT THE TAXES. BUT WE WERE REALLY SAD THEY'RE GONE, BECAUSE IT WAS A NICE FACILITY AND WE LIKED THE PEOPLE. I ASSUME ONCE YOU FIND OUT WHAT THE LEGAL ASPECTS ARE YOU ARE GOING TO PUT SOMEONE ELSE IN THERE, I ASSUME YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT. YOU OWN THE

BUILDING AT THIS POINT, DON'T YOU? >> WE DON'T ANSWER THE

QUESTIONS HERE. I GET A CHANCE TO TALK. >> I HOPE ANOTHER RESTAURANT GOESES IN THERE VERY SOON AND THEY GET PARKING FOR THIS WHOLE THING TO BE DONE WITH THE MARINA. HAVE NO IDEA -- I CAN'T EVEN GET A MAP WHAT IS GOING ON THERE. I'M WORKING ON