[9. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING PUBLIC HEARINGS Any person who wishes to comment on an agenda item which is not under Public Hearings on the Agenda may be heard at this time and must sign up to speak in advance. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>>MOTION TO APPROVE. >>WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. >> ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

>>REQUIRING PUBLIC HEARINGS.

>> ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO COMMENT ON AN AGENDA ITEM WHICH IS NOT UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE AGENDA MAY BE HEARD AT THIS TIME AND MUST SIGN UP TO SPEAK IN ADVANCE. PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE (3) MINUTES OR LESS, AS DIRECTED BY THE MAYOR, AS THIS SECTION OF THE AGENDA IS LIMITED TO THIRTY MINUTES. THE CITY COMMISSION WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE ANY OFFICIAL ACTIONS UNDER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. SPEAKERS WILL CTADDRESS THE MAY, COMMISSIONERS, AND THE PUBLIC WITH RESPECT. INAPPROPRIATE LANGUAGE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.

>> >>PUBLIC SPEAKER: IT'S NICE TO SEE DARRYL HERE. I WORKED WITH HIM ON THE PLANNING BOARD MANY YEARS AGO. IT'S GREAT TO SEE HIM. HE'S SUCH AN HONORABLE AND WONDERFUL MAN. I'M GOING TO WAIT UNTIL THE END OF THE MEETING BECAUSE IT MAKES ME OBEY ALL THE RULES AND THE COMMITTEE IS NOT ON THE AGENDA, SO I HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE END. BUT I WANTED TO MENTION SOMETHING AT THE BEGINNING. I WANT TO RISE TO SUPPORT COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE YOU'VE HAD A HARD YEAR, AND TIME AFTER TIME, THERE ARE TERRIBLE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING AND YOU CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DEFEND YOURSELF OR DO ANYTHING BIT BECAUSE OF THE WAY YOUR CHARTER IS SET. IT BOTHERS ME BECAUSE THIS IS MY HOMETOWN. IT BOTHERS ME. I HAVE BEEN TO FOUR MEETINGS SINCE DECEMBER, IN ALL FOUR MEETINGS YOU HAVE BEEN ASKED TO MAKE DECISIONS ON INFORMATION THAT IS ABSOLUTELY FALSE, ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT. I CAN PROVE IT, BUT I ONLY HAVE 3 MINUTES. BUT THEY ARE IT STARTS WITH JIM BRIDGE, THEN IT WENT TO OUR COMMITTEE ASKING FOR TIME ON THE AGENDA AND YOU SAID WE DIDN'T FILE THE RIGHT PAPERS,

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ABSOLUTELY WRONG. THEN THERE WERE ONLY THREE FINALIST AND THERE WERE FOUR. YOU THEN BECAME -- CRABBIES AND THEN THE TAX BILL. ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT. YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE DEPENDENT UPON THE STAFF. YOU ONLY HAVE THREE PEOPLE THAT YOU SUPERVISE. THE QUESTION IS WHO WORKS FOR WHO? MOST OF THIS CITY WANTS TO KNOW WHEN COMMISSIONERS ARE GOING TO BECOME MORE FORCEFUL. WE'LL SEE TONIGHT HOW THAT IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE ONLY THREE PEOPLE TO SUPERVISE. TONIGHT, I'M GOING TO STOP WORKING FOR THIS ORGANIZATION WHICH IS WHY I CAN SAY THIS. PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN WANT TO KNOW AND THEY ARE WATCHING. WHETHER IT'S $10 MILLION OR FALSE INFORMATION OR BROKEN CONTRACTS OR LAWSUITS GOING TO BE FILED, YOU GUYS CANNOT MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT INFORMATION. I'M HERE TO TELL YOU, YOU ARE NOT GETTING IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>>MAYOR LINDA HUDSON: THANK YOU. >> >>PUBLIC SPEAKER: GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. I COME BEFORE YOU FOR 11 E. ACCORDING TO THE INFORMATION THAT I RECEIVE, WE HAVE WHAT IS CALLED THE PIONEER PARK, AND IT WAS ESTABLISHED WITH A PURPOSE.

FOR A PLACEMENT OF A BRONZE PLAQUE AT THE HISTORIC PARK FOR MEMBERS OF THE LINCOLN PARK COMMUNITY WHO HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO ITS RICH HERITAGE. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY ON WEDNESDAY TO BE IN THE PARK ON BLACK HISTORY MONTH TO HONOR THE PEOPLE THAT WE FELT HAVE MADE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE COUNTY ESPECIALLY LINCOLN PARK COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF PUTTING IN NATIONAL FIGURES OR STATEWIDE PHYSFIGURES. WE COME YOU BECAUSE WE WANT TO SEE THIS PROJECT COMPLETED. THERE WAS A RESOLUTION IN 2022 PASSED BY THE CITY COMMISSIONERS. ACCORDING TO THAT RUSESOLUTION, THERE WERE RECOMMENDATIONS MADE OF WHO WOULD BE PLACED IN THE PARK AND RECOGNIZED WHETHER WE USE THE PIONEERS WHO ARE DEAD BUT ALSO, WHO ARE ALIVE. ACCORDING TO THE RESOLUTION, IT WAS GOING TO BE GIVEN TO MAIN STREET LINCOLN PARK AND THAT WAS SIGNED IN 2023. THIS SAID THAT THE RESOLUTION WILL TAKE PLACE IMMEDIATELY AND AS OF TODAY, THERE ARE NO PLAQUES THERE, NO NAMES THERE. WE ARE ASKING YOU ALL TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT THAT. PART OF THAT PROPERTY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT PART WAS SOLD, IT WAS BACK IN 1981. IT WAS BROUGHT TO THE FOREFRONT. BY NOW, WE SHOULD HAVE SEEN SOMETHING IN THE PARK. WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL PRAYER ON SUNDAY AND WE MEET IN THE PARK FOR PRAYER. CALLING ON THE PIONEERS WHO HAVE GIVEN TO THIS COMMUNITY IN SO MANY WAYS. THERE WERE ORIGINALLY 22 SPOTS IDENTIFIED AND THERE WERE SUBMITTED 17 NAMES. IT SHOULD NOT TAKE US 3-5 YEARS TO COME UP WITH THE NUMBER OF NAMES IN THAT PARK. IT SHOULD BE DONE IMMEDIATELY ACCORDING TO SECTION 6. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ABOUT THAT. I BRING THIS ON BEHALF OF YOU, THE CITY PARK COMMISSION AND THE MAIN STREET. THAT SHOULD BE COMPLETED. WE DON'T MIND

[11. CONSENT AGENDA]

HELPING. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. THAT'S ALL THAT IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.

>>WE CAN MOVE ON. >>NEXT ITEM. CONSENT AGENDA. >>ANY ITEMS TO BE PULLED?

>> 11 D. >>11 A. >>OKAY. ANY OTHERS? IF NOT, I

WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION? >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. >> ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

[A. Approval of Award of RFP 2026-008 for Demolition, Asbestos/Lead Based Paint Abatement Services to the highest ranked respondent, Cross Environmental Services, Inc., and to authorize staff to enter into contract negotiations.]

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>>A. APPROVAL OF AWARD OF RFP 2026-008 FOR DEMOLITION, ASBESTOS/LEAD BASED PAINT ABATEMENT SERVICES TO THE HIGHEST RANKED RESPONDENT, CROSS ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, INC.,

AND TO AUTHORIZE STAFF TO ENTER INTO CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS. >>COMMISSIONER BRODERICK?

>> CITY COMMISSIONER MICHAEL BRODERICK: MADAM MAYOR, I PULLED THIS ITEM TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROCESS THAT UNFOLDS WITH THIS. THIS COMPANY THAT WE ARE LOOK TO AWARD THIS TO, IS NOT A LOCALLY BASED COMPANY. THEY ARE ON THE WEST COAST OF FLORIDA. SECONDLY, A LOCAL FORT PIERCE COMPANY THAT RATED VERY CLOSE TO THIS. I WAS CURIOUS IF THERE IS A TEMPERAMENT ON THE COMMISSION TO FOR COMPANIES THAT ARE HERE IN - FORT PIERCE FOR EMPLOYEEING FORT PIERCE RESIDENTS. THEY HAVE BEEN ON THE CONTRACT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND CAME IN SECOND. THEY ARE A LOCAL COMPANY AND THAT STRUCK ME AS COUNTER INTUITIVE TO WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE WITH PAYING JOBS AND KEEPING PEOPLE IN THE CITY AND LIVE WORK HERE IN THE CITY

OF FORT PIERCE AND WE ARE LOOKING AT THE WEST COAST. >>IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE DO GIVE BONUS POINTS FOR LOCAL PREFERENCE, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I NEED TO HAVE

CLARIFIED FOR MR. CHESSOR MR. COST. >>SEAN COST, COMMUNITY RESPONSE DIRECTOR. THIS DID WE DO OUT BY COMMUNITY. THE LOCALITY WAS NOT PART OF THE CRITERIA. THE WAY THAT THE RFP WAS STRUCTURED INITIALLY WAS INTENDED TO BE AWARD TODAY ONE VENDOR. WE COULD ALSO RECONSIDER AWARDING TO MULTIPLE VENDORS IF THAT IS A RECOMMENDATION BY THE COMMISSION, WHERE IF WE WANT TO REVISIT HOW THE RFP WAS STRUCTURED, IF THAT'S THE WILL

OF THE COMMISSION, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. >>MADAM MAYOR?

>> CITY COMMISSIONER ARNOLD GAINES: I'M ALL FOR AWARDING LOCAL COMPANIES AND BUSINESSES, BUT CONCERNED THAT WE DON'T GO THE WRONG PATH. I'M LOOKING AT THE MADAM ATTORNEY. IF THESE COME BACK BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT TO COME BACK WITH A LEGAL CHALLENGE THAT OUR LEANING IS A CERTAIN WAY. IF THERE IS A WAY TO ADD TO IT FOR A LOCAL COMPANY, I WILL TAKE THAT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE TO SAY, WE CAN GO BACK AND CHANGE THIS AND DO THAT. NOT SAYING WHATEVER WE WANT WITHOUT SOME TYPE OF LEGAL UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE ANOTHER THING I DON'T

WANT ANOTHER CONTROVERSY ABOUT AN RFP. >>I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAT.

>>MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, ULTIMATELY YOUR PURCHASING MANAGER WOULD BE THE BEST TO SPEAK TO YOUR ABILITY FOR PREFERENCES. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT OUR CODE DOES NOT HAVE LOCAL PREFERENCE IN IT. IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE INTERESTED IN, THE CITY MANAGER COULD INVESTIGATE ADDING LOCAL PREFERENCE TO THE CODE. ANY OTHER WE ARE CURRENTLY WRITING THE PURCHASING CODE, BUT FOR HOW LOCAL PREFERENCE IS DONE, I THINK YOUR PURCHASING MANAGER WOULD BE MOST APPROPRIATE TO GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION AS TO HOW THEY DRAFT THOSE BID

DOCUMENTS. >>MAYOR LINDA HUDSON COMMISSIONERS?

>> PART OF THE HISTORY, AFTER THE RECESSION STARTED -- >>YOU NEED TO BE CLOSER TO YOUR

MIC. >>ALL RIGHT. THE MOST CITIES IN THE COUNTY MOVE FORWARD WITH A LOCAL PREFERENCE ORDINANCE BECAUSE OF THE RECESSION, SO, I WOULD ASK WHEN THAT WAS DONE AND WAS THERE AN EXPIRATION DATE IN THE CITY BECAUSE I DON'T RECALL THERE BEING AN EXPIRATION DATE IN EACH OF THE GOVERNMENT LOCATIONS. I KNOW THAT IT IS LEGAL TO DO. WE DID IT. IF IT'S NOT LEGAL, WE ALL DID IT BAD. I'M NOT PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT A HISTORY LESSON GOING BACK

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TO 9, 10, 11, 12. WHERE WE HAD FORECLOSURES, 4,000 A MONTH AND BUSINESSES WERE HAVING A HARD TIME AND WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP LOCAL BUSINESSES. THERE WAS A CHALLENGE FROM PALM BEACH BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T AGREE TO THE LOCAL PREFERENCE AGREEMENT. BUT THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF

HISTORY. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S PERTINENT, BUT I SHARE IT. >>MAYOR LINDA HUDSON:

COMMISSIONERS. >>I'M LOOKING AT THE CODE AND IT'S NOT IN THE CODE RIGHT NOW.

PERHAPS MS. MORRIS CAN GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION? >> DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, JOHNNA MORRIS: I CANNOT GIVE YOU THE EXACT YEAR, BUT IT WAS DETERMINED BY STATUTE THAT WE CAN NO LONGER GIVE PREFERENCE FOR LOCAL PREFERENCE. IT CAN BE PART OF THE BIDDING CRITERIA, BUT WE COULD NOT AWARD BY PREFERENCE AND WE BROUGHT THAT BACK FROM A CONFERENCE. AND IF I

REMEMBER, MAYOR, WE BROUGHT IT BACK FROM CONFERENCE. >>MAYOR LINDA HUDSON: YES, I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE CAVEAT AND WE DECIDED AT THAT POINT IT WAS THE BID PROCESS. YOU CAN PUT IT IN YOUR BID, BUT YOU CANNOT AWARD BASED ON THAT. THAT COULD NOT BE THE SOLE REASON AS TO WHY

YOU WERE AWARDING BASED ON LOCAL PREFERENCE. >>IT'S WHY IT'S NOT IN THE CHARTER. IT USED TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS UP UNTIL THAT TIME, THEN IT WAS REMOVED. IT USED TO

BE ALLOWABLE IN OUR BIDS. IT WASN'T PRIOR TO THAT. >>I THINK WHILE I CAN APPRECIATE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION, AS I LOOKED AT THE SCORES. WE HAD THREE INDIVIDUALS THAT WRITE THESE EVALUATION PACKETS. THEY SPENT TIME AND WENT THROUGH THOSE CRITERIA AND EVALUATED THAT BASED UPON WHAT WAS SUBMITTED. I THINK WHILE I CAN APPRECIATE IT, BUT MY CONCERN RIGHT NOW IS AS I LOOK AT THAT DISPARAGE BETWEEN THE TOP ONE, SOMETHING DID NOT SIT WITH THE EVALUATOR. IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A LOCAL PREFERENCE, TO ME THAT MAY NOT GET US TO YIELD A RESULT BECAUSE IF THAT POINT IS THAT YOU HAVE TO BE LOCAL, THEN I WOULD HAVE A FLOOD OF COMPANIES COMING IN WITH A LOCAL ADDRESS TO BE LOCAL BECAUSE THERE ARE POINTS AND WOULD BE A SIGN BASED ON IF YOU ARE LOCAL. THAT'S WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE. WITHOUT HAVING REVIEWED THE CRITERIA OF THE RFP WITH ALL THE EVALUATIONS STAMP ON IT TO CONSIDER ADDING ANY AMOUNT OF POINTS BECAUSE YOUR LOCAL, WE HAVE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT AND HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE STATE STATUTE WILL OR WILL NOT ALLOW WHEN IT COMES TO THE EVALUATION PROCESS. I PERSONALLY WANT TO THANK THE PEOPLE THAT SENT IN THESE THREE APPLICATIONS. THEY DID THEIR JOB AND MADE THE DECISION BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF THIS. MY QUESTION, MR. COSTA, WHOEVER NEEDS TO ADDRESS THIS. IS THERE ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR THAT THIS ABATEMENT IS CAUSING FOR SOME SPECIAL PROCESS OR WHATEVER THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR THAT PUTS ONE AGAINST THE OTHER TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT. IS THERE ANYTHING YOU CAN SPEAK TO? IS

THIS AN ABNORMAL ABATEMENT OF ASBESTOS, THAT TYPE OF THING. >>MR. COST?

>> THIS SERVICE CONTRACT IS FOR AN AS NEEDED BASIS. WE DON'T HAVE A PROJECT RIGHT NOW THAT REQUIRES SERVICE. IT'S FOR DEMOLITION LEAD BASED ABATEMENT AND ASBESTOS AS WELL.HAUL,

THIS COMPANY IS $25,000 AND WOULD COME TO DO THE WORK? >> THE FISCAL IMPACT IS $75,000 IS WHAT WAS BUDGETED BY THE SAFE COMMUNITY INITIATIVE. THE WAY IT'S DRAFTED IS IT COULD BE PIGGYBACKED FOR PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS OR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IN THE EVENT OF

IMMINENT DANGER FOR STRUCTURES THAT ARE CONDEMNED. >>GOT IT. OKAY. WHEN YOU SAY

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CONDEMNED, THAT MEANS ARE STRUCTURES IN THE CITY THAT MAY ENCOUNTER CODE MAY ENCOUNTER AND DETECT ASBESTOS AND WE HAVE TO TEAR IT DOWN AND DISPOSE OF IT PROPERLY?

>> CORRECT. >>THANK YOU. >>THE COST ON THAT IS $75,000 FOR THE SELECTED VENDOR AND THAT NEEDS TO GO OUT TO BID. AM I INTERPRETING THAT CORRECTLY?

>> >>CORRECT. MAXIMUM AMOUNT IN THE CONTRACT IS $75,000 FOR

CONTRACTING SERVICES. >>MADAM MAYOR? >> MS. HEDGES?

>> CITY ATTORNEY SARA HEDGES: IF I CAN QUALIFY THAT. I UNDERSTOOD THAT $75,000 WAS TOTAL FOR THE

CONTRACTED YEAR. SO IF THEY NEED 75,000? ARE YOU SAY TOTAL? >> IT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT $75,000. THERE WAS A BREAKDOWN BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THE CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL. THOSE

PRICE POINTS WOULD HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED FOR EACH PROJECT. >>THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION. I COME BACK TO THE ORIGINAL REASON I PULLED THAT ITEM TO SOMETHING THAT I'M NOT CERTAIN IF WE CAN DO IT BASED ON A LOCAL PREFERENCE. I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER JOHNSON THAT WE NEED A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS ON A MORE APPROPRIATE TIME. NOW IS NOT THE TIME, I'M ASSUMING.

TO SEE IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO. >>I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT IS TO HAVE A PREFERENCE FOR LOCAL PREFERENCE IF IT FALLS WITHIN THE STATUTE.

>> I LOOK AT IT THE SAME WAY. >>WE HAVE TO DEFINE LOCAL. >>RIGHT. WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT

CONVERSATION AT SOME POINT. >>NOT JUST A PO BOX. >>RIGHT.

>>WHAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE. DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? >> ARE WE LOOKING TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS PART OF THE CONSENT AGENDA OR PULL IT AND REVISIT TH

THIS IN TOTALITY? >> DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A PROPOSAL?

>> THIS CAN BE A CASE STUDY TO UTILIZE THE PROCESS OF ATTEMPTING TO ADAPT A LOCAL PREFERENCE SCENARIO. WE CAN USE THIS CONTRACT AS A SAMPLE CASE TO SEE IF THIS IS GOING TO WORK.

>>IT'S NOT REALLY A LARGE CONTRACT AMOUNT. >>MADAM MAYOR, IF WE HAVE TO CLEAN UP OUR RFP PROCESS, WE SHOULD DO THAT. THERE WILL BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY IN THE FUTURE, BUT I THINK THIS NEEDS TO GO FORWARD TONIGHT. WE LOOK AT OUR RFP PROCESS, CLEAN THAT UP. SO THAT WE AVOID ADDITIONAL CHALLENGES GOING FORWARD. MS. HEDGES HAS A LOT ON HER PLATE AND WE ARE GOING TO ADD ONE MORE TO IT. I SUSPECT THAT WE ARE GOING TO ADD MORE WITH THIS QUESTION. I WOULD NOT BE SUPPORTING MOVING THIS FORWARD FOR THAT REASON.

>>I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT. >>IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> >> ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

>CLERK: THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HAVING THE DISCUSSION AND IF WE CAN LOOK AT A DAY TO MEET TO MAYBE BRING THIS BACK FOR DISCUSSION FOR AN OVERVIEW. I KNOW THERE IS AN UPDATE TO OUR PURCHASING, OUR RFP PROCESS. MAYBE IT'S TIME TO GET OUR HANDS AROUND THAT TO UNDERSTAND IT. I KNOW THAT EVERY RFP IS DIFFERENT BASED ON EVERY PROJECT. IF WE

[D. Approval to award Bid No. 2026-022 CDBG Coach Fenn Park Improvement Project to the Lowest Responsible Bidder, SoCal Shaker Plates & Construction Site Services, LLC dba National General Construction, for General Commercial Contractor Services in the amount of $626,591.15.]

CAN GET IT UP THERE, IT WILL BE A GREAT DISCUSSION FOR BETTER UNDERSTANDING.

>>AGREED. >>LET'S MOVE ON. >>

>>CLERK: ITEM 2026-022 CDBG COACH FENN PARK IMPROVEMENT PROJECT TO THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER, SOCAL SHAKER PLATES & CONSTRUCTION SITE SERVICES, LLC DBA NATIONAL GENERAL CONSTRUCTION, FOR GENERAL COMMERCIAL CONTRACTOR SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $626,591.15.

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CITY COMMISSIONER ARNOLD GAINES: THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. I PULLED THIS ITEM BECAUSE WE ARE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY IN A PARK THAT IS IN THE MIDDLE OF DISTRICT 1, LINCOLN PARK AREA. I WILL FOLLOW-UP ON WHAT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SAID SEVERAL MEETINGS AGO, WITH ALL OF THIS MONEY AND EVERYTHING WE ARE DOING, HOW ARE WE SECURING THAT EVERYTHING WE ARE PUTTING IN IS GOING TO REMAIN INTACT AND FOR THE COMMUNITY TO USE. MY QUESTION IS I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING, BUT HAS THERE BEEN ANY TYPE OF DISCUSSION WITH CAMERAS, TO JUST PROTECT THE RESIDENTS THAT WANT TO COME TO USE THE PARK BECAUSE $626,591.15, IS NOT A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY. THAT'S A LISTENING, DON'T THINK I'M TRYING TO STOP THE PARK FROM BEING BUILT. I'M NOT. BUT I WANT THE PARK TO BE THERE TO BE ONE OF THE BEST PARKS IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THAT COMMUNITY DESERVES THIS PARK. I HAVE ALWAYS MADE THE JOKE, DON'T TAKEAWAY MY BASEBALL FIELD THERE BECAUSE I CAN PUT MY T BALLERS THERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HIT THAT FAR IN THE FIELD. BUT MY CONCERN IS HOW ARE WE PROTECTING THE CITY'S INVESTMENT IN THIS PARK. I UNDERSTAND WE ASKED THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AND THE POLICE AND THE COMMUNITY. IT'S ALL OF OUR PARK, BUT WE WANT TO

BE SURE THAT WE ARE PROTECTING THIS INVESTMENT IN THAT AREA. >>ABSOLUTELY.

>>MARSHA VAUGHN, SPECIAL PARKS COORDINATOR: YOU ARE LOOKING AT A BUDGET OF $1.1 MILLION. FOR THIS PROJECT. TO YOUR QUESTION, I THINK THERE IS A TWO PRONGED APPROACH TO THAT. THE FIRST IS PUBLIC SAFETY, YOU TALKED ABOUT CAMERAS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. NONE OF THE STRUCTURES THAT WE ARE PURCHASING WILL HAVE CAMERAS OR ANYTHING INCLUDED WITH IT. HOWEVER,, I THINK THAT LENDS ITSELF TO A GREATER CONVERSATION WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THOSE CONVERSATIONS COULD BE HAD BEFORE OPERATIONS BEGIN OF THIS PARK. WE HAVEN'T HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS JUST YET. THE SECOND PART TO THAT QUESTION WHICH IS IN TERMS OF PROTECTING THE ASSET ITSELF, THE APPROACH THAT WE ARE TAKING ESPECIALLY AS WE LOOK TO IMPROVE HOW WE REVITALIZE ALL OF OUR PARKS IS CHOOSING BETTER MATERIALS FOR OUR STRUCTURES, AND SOME EXAMPLES WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS ONE, WITH THE PREFABRICATED RESTROOM. THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON NOTED THE TIMING OF THE ELECTRIC LOCKING SYSTEM THAT WILL BE A GAME CHANGER FOR US TO BE MORE EFFICIENT AND CAPABLE OF MANAGING THAT ASSET. IN ADDITION WE HAVE A FULLY FRAMED STRUCTURE FOR OUR PAVILION. THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR ONLY PAVILION IN OUR PARK MADE OF STEAL TO PREVENT VANDALISM. WE CAN SEE LONG-TERM USE OUT OF THE ASSETS THEMSELVES IF WE SELECT BETTER MATERIALS MOVING FORWARD AT ALL OF OUR PARKS. SO, I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

>>IT DOES. LIKE I SAID, THIS PARK, ONCE COMPLETE, THIS PARK IS GOING TO BE USED EVERY DAY, ALL DAY LONG, EVERY DAY BECAUSE OF WHERE IT IS LOCATED. IT'S ALMOST WALKING DISTANCE TO THE LINCOLN PARK AREA. YOU CAN RIDE YOUR BIKE OR WALK THERE. IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT PLACE TO GO ESPECIALLY WITH A SPLASH PAD. YOU ALWAYS HEAR SOMEBODY SAY WE DON'T DO, WHAT WE DON'T DO IN LINCOLN PARK AREA. HERE WE ARE DOING SOMETHING IN LINCOLN PARK AREA. I WANT FOR US TO PROTECT THE INVESTMENT THAT WE ARE DOING, AND I SEE THE CHIEF IS HERE. MAY I ASK YOU TO COME UP.

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WE JUST NEED SOME TYPE OF SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS THERE. YOU KNOW HOW TO DO YOUR JOB. IT'S

GOING TO BE A GAME CHANGER IN THE AREA. >>WE WANT IT TO BE A SAFE PLACE

FOR THE PEOPLE THAT USE THE PARK. COMMISSIONER? >> COMMISSIONER DZADOVSKY: I'M WATCHING MY AGENDA AND THERE WAS A SHOOTING A FEW YEARS BACK. AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, WHEN I WAS WITH THE COUNTY, WE MOVED FORWARD WITH FUNDING IT THROUGH THE SHERIFF'S CRIME PREVENTION FUND, WHICH THEY WERE ABLE TO PLACE CAMERAS IN THE AREA OF THE SHOOTING. IF YOU COUCH THE TERMINOLOGY IN THE AREA OF CRIME PREVENTION, I THINK THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACHIEVE FUNDING THAT MAY BE NECESSARY TO PROVIDE FOR THE CAMERAS. WHEN I SAT ON THE TOURISM BOARD WE IMPLEMENTED WEBCAMS AND THERE WAS A HIGHER VIEWING AS FAR AS TOURISM IS. THEY ARE NOT CHEAP, BUT NOT EXPENSIVE EITHER ESPECIALLY WITH THE NEW TECHNOLOGY HAPPENING. HERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN DO A FEW THINGS. ONE, SHOW ALL THE ACCIDENTS THAT ARE GOING ON AT THE PARK AND HOW VALUABLE THIS IS. AND IS THERE A PARK OPEN. IS THERE TIME TO GO TO THE SPLASH PAD. THEY LOOK AT THE WEBCAMS AND THEY HAVE REAL-TIME INFORMATION FROM WHAT IS GOING ON. FROM THAT POINT, IF YOU TAP IT INTO CRIME PREVENTION, THAT IS AVAILABLE AND LOOKED AT IN THE SAME WAY. WHEN YOU LOOK AT GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR FUNDING, THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU ARE TRYING

TO DO. >>MADAM MAYOR, I WANT TO ECHO. THE LAST PART I WANT TO SAY IS THE PUBLIC DON'T GO AWAY HERE WITH THE MISS CONCEPTION THAT WE SPENT $600,000 FROM THE CITY FUNDS. THIS WAS A GRANT FOR THE PARK. WHAT YOU SAID IS WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT AND THERE IS A PARK THERE AND THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB THERE. THE WITCH HOUSE, THEY HAVE A VERY ACTIVE SUMMER PROGRAM FOR THE KIDS OUT OF SCHOOL AND THEY ARE WELCOME IN THAT HOUSE THERE AND THAT CONTINUES TO BE A RESOURCE IN THE COMMUNITY FOR THE SUMMER. IT PLAYS A VALUABLE ROLE. SO I THINK WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE SUPPORT IS THERE FOR US TO GET OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS, BUT ALSO, TO CONTINUE TO EXPLORE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE SAFETY. I THINK WE CAN DO THAT AND REAL

GOOD TO SUPPORT TO MAKE SURE IT HAPPENS. THANK YOU. >>DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION?

>> MADAM MAYOR, WITH THAT, I MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT 11 D. >>WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

[A. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 26-003 establishing the requirement for an annual fiscal audit and providing that any contract for audit services shall not exceed an initial term of three years, but may include an option to renew for two, one (1) year renewals; additionally it requires that the city shall appoint a new auditor at least every five years. SECOND READING]

>> ROLL CALL, PLEASE. >>

>>WE NOW MOVE ON TO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS. >>WE HAVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR AN ANNUAL FISCAL AUDIT AND PROVIDING THAT ANY CONTRACT FOR AUDIT SERVICES SHALL NOT EXCEED AN INITIAL TERM OF THREE YEARS, BUT MAY INCLUDE AN OPTION TO RENEW FOR TWO, ONE (1) YEAR RENEWALS; ADDITIONALLY IT REQUIRES THAT THE CITY SHALL APPOINT A NEW AUDITOR AT LEAST

EVERY FIVE YEARS. SECOND READING THIS IS THE SECOND READING. >>MADAM MAYOR, POINT OF ORDER,

DID WE BYPASS 11 F? >> NO. IT WAS THE CONSENT AGENDA. IT WAS APPROVED.

>>THANK YOU. >>THIS IS A SECOND READING. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NO MOVEMENT, I WILL COME BACK TO

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THE COMMISSION FOR A MOTION. >>WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. >> ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

[A. Resolution 26-R11 appointing Jessica Barclay to the Arts and Culture Advisory Board as appointee of the Board. ]

13. CITY COMMISSION APPOINTING JESSICA BARCLAY TO THE ARTS AND CULTURE ADVISORY BOARD AS APPOINTEE OF THE BOARD.

THIS RESOLUTION POINTS JESSICA, TO THE ARTS AND CULTURE ADVISORY BOARD AS THE POINTY OF THE ADVISORY BOARD. THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO APPOINT ONE OF THEIR OWN MEMBERS AND THEY CHOSE

JESSICA. >>MOVE APPROVAL. >>WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

[B. Resolution 26-R12 Appointing Hoyt Murphy, Jr. to the City of Fort Pierce Historic Preservation Board as Commissioner Dzadovsky's appointee. ]

>> ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

>>CONGRATULATIONS. >>NEXT WE HAVE -- B. RESOLUTION 26-R12 APPOINTING HOYT MURPHY, JR. TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD AS COMMISSIONER DZADOVSKY'S APPOINTEE.

[C. Resolution 26-R13 Appointing Charlie Hayek to the City of Fort Police Community Advisory Committee as Commissioner Dzadovsky's appointee. ]

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

CITY OF FORT POLICE COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE AS COMMISSIONER DZADOVSKY'S APPOINTEE.

>>MOVE APPROVAL. >>MAYOR LINDA HUDSON: THERE IS A MOTION AND SECOND.

[D. Resolution 26-R14 Appointing Krista Storey to the City of Fort Pierce Planning Board as Commissioner Dzadovsky's appointee. ]

>> ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

CITY OF FORT PIERCE PLANNING BOARD AS COMMISSIONER DZADOVSKY'S APPOINTEE.

>> MOVE APPROVAL. >>SECOND. >>WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

[E. Resolution 26-R15 Appointing members to the Auditor Selection Committee]

>> ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

>>CLERK: WE HAVE APPOINTING MEMBERS TO THE AUDITOR SELECTION COMMITTEE THIS RESOLUTION APPOINTS -- HE

CAN'T RETIRE. >>NO. I WANTED TO TELL HIM THAT. >>JEREMIAH JOHNSON.

>>MAYOR LINDA HUDSON: IS THERE A MOTION? >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

>> ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

[F. Resolution 26-R16 approving two Maintenance Memorandum of Agreement contracts from FDOT for the maintenance of improvements along US 1, Virginia Avenue, Indian Hills Drive, Savannah Road, Heathcote Drive, Gardenia Avenue and the Mayflower Canal.]

MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT CONTRACTS FROM FDOT FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF IMPROVEMENTS ALONG US 1, VIRGINIA AVENUE, INDIAN HILLS DRIVE, SAVANNAH ROAD, HEATHCOTE DRIVE, GARDENIA AVENUE AND THE MAYFLOWER CANAL.

MAYOR LINDA HUDSON: IS THERE A MOTION. >>WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

[G. Consideration of a Settlement Proposal received from Pierce 1 Marina, LLC in case number 562024CA001627.]

>> ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

G. CONSIDERATION OF A SETTLEMENT PROPOSAL RECEIVED FROM PIERCE 1 MARINA, LLC IN

CASE NUMBER 562024CA001627. >>MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, AGAIN, THE CITY RECEIVED A PROPOSAL FOR A SETTLEMENT IN THE CASE, WHICH ESSENTIALLY SAYS THAT IF THE PLAINTIFF RECOVERS

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125% OF WHAT THEY HAVE PROPOSED IN THEIR SETTLEMENT, THAT CAN TRIGGER ATTORNEY FEES AND EXPENSES UNDER THE RECOVERY. THE PROPOSAL THAT THEY SENT WAS FOR A SETTLEMENT FOR $6 MILLION WHICH WOULD MEAN A RECOVERY OF $7.5 MILLION. UNDER THE STATUTE, IF THE COMMISSION TAKES NO ACTION AFTER 30 DAYS, THE OFFER IS CONSIDEED DENIED, REJECTED. THE OPTION THAT YOU HAVE TONIGHT IS YOU CAN ACCEPT $6 MILLION, REJECT IT. TAKE NO ACTION. I DO HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO RELAY THE OFFERS TO YOU. BECAUSE THIS IS SUNSHINED THE ONLY WAY TO PROPERLY DO THAT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED THIS. NOW IS THE TIME IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION TO ACCEPT. IF THERE IS NO MOTION, WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD AND AFTER 30 DAYS, IT WOULD BE DEEMED REJECTED UNDER THE STATUTE. IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN ANSWER THOSE. IF NOT, I WILL GIVE IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR ANY ACTION OR TO MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM.

>>COMMISSIONERS? >> I SUGGEST NO ACTION BE TAKEN. >>I AGREE.

[H. Update on Crabby's Restaurant Lease at the request of Commissioner Broderick]

>>EVERYBODY AGREE? ALL RIGHT. WE MOVE ON. >>THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

OF COMMISSIONER BRODERICK MAYOR LINDA HUDSON: COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, DO YOU WANT TO START?

>> MR. CHESS? >> YES, WE HAVE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION ABOUT FIVE SLIDES.

I WILL GIVE MS. MOORE A SECOND TO UPLOAD IT. >> THIS IS ON THE CRABBY'S RESTAURANT UPDATE. ON THE 26, SENT A REQUEST FOR THE ABATEMENT. WE ARE FOCUSED ON THE PARTICULAR RENT IN THIS CASE. THE CITY STAFF MET WITH THE TENNANT. I WANT TO CLEAR SOMETHING UP. THERE HAS BEEN SOMETHING SUBMITTED AS WELL AS THE NEWSPAPER THAT I WAS NOT AT THIS MEETING. I TALKED OVER AN HOUR. I REMEMBER VIVIDLY BECAUSE ONE OF THE TENANTS PASSED AWAY.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT WAS COMING FROM THAT I WASN'T AT THE MEETING.

>>THE NOVEMBER 19TH, MEETING. OKAY. >>IF I WASN'T AT THE MEETING, I WILL SAY I WAS NOT AT THE MEETING. BUT I WAS AT THE MEETING AND I REMEMBER VIVIDLY BECAUSE I GAVE MY CONDOLENCES TO ONE OF THE PERSONS WHOSE DAD PASSED AWAY. I WANT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT CAME UP. THE REASON THEY ARE TAKEN FROM SEPTEMBER 19TH TO HAVE THIS MEETING, I HAD THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER AND COORDINATING OUR SCHEDULE TO GET TO THIS MEETING AND THERE WERE ALSO 3-4 MEMBERS THERE. IT TOO US THIS TIMEFRAME TO GET TO THIS MEETING, TRY TO SCHEDULE NINE PEOPLE TO SCHEDULE A MEETING. ON THAT DATE OF THE MEETING, WE ASKED THE TENANT TO PROVIDE US WITH A BUSINESS PROPOSAL. THEY WANTED THIS TAX ABATEMENT. I SAID I CAN'T MAKE A DECISION ON MY OWN AND I DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY FOR THE AMOUNT OF THE FUNDS. I ASKED FOR A BUSINESS PLAN TO OUTLINE WITH REVENUE EXPENDITURES AND THE LAYOUT AND WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO OPERATIONALLY TO TURN THINGS AROUND. LOW AND BEHOLD WE RECEIVED THE PROPOSAL FIVE WEEKS LATER, DECEMBER 29TH, WE EVALUATED THE PROPOSAL ON JANUARY 26TH. THEY DID NOT PROVIDE THE INFORMATION THAT I ASKED FOR, REVENUE AND CASH FLOW STATEMENTS AND NO DETAIL ABOUT HOW THEY WERE GOING TO TURN IT AROUND. DURING THAT TIME, I WENT TO FINANCE AND ASKED THE TERM OF THE PAYMENT AND FOUND OUT THEY WERE IN DEFAULT BY FOUR MONTHS

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AT THE TIME. I SET THE PROPOSAL ON THE SIDE AND SENT THEM A DEFAULT LETTER JANUARY 30TH, THEY RECEIVED THAT FEBRUARY 5TH. ON FEBRUARY 12TH, OUR DECOIRECT SPOKE TO THE OPERATIONS MANAGER AND TOLD THEM THEY WERE MOVING OUT BY FEBRUARY 15TH, OUR DEADLINE IN THE DEFAULT LATER WAS DATED THE 15 TH AS WELL. ON THE 17, I FOLLOWED UP WITH THE TENNANT FOR THE PREMISE TO INSPECT THE PROPERTY. WE GOT A HOLD OF THEM, I, MYSELF AND THE CITY STAFF PERFORMED AN INITIAL WALK THROUGH, AND THE 24TH WE DID A FINAL WALK THROUGH, WITH THE OPERATIONS MANAGER, WE TOOK CERTAIN PICTURES AND CERTAIN ITEMS TAKEN OUT. THERE WERE NO ISSUES, WE GOT THE KEYS FROM THEM AND SIGNED OFF THAT WE RECEIVED THE KEYS AND THE BUILDING WAS IN REASONABLE GOOD CONDITION. FROM THAT STANDPOINT, WE SORT OF AT THAT STAGE, WE WERE OUT OF THE OPERATION SIDE, BUT DID COMMUNICATE WITH THEM BY EMAIL ASKING THEM TO RESPOND TO THE BACK PAYMENT AND ALSO TO HAVE A MUTUAL LEASE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THEM YET. I CONTACTED THEM LAST TUESDAY ON THE 23RD AND CONTACTED THEM LAST FRIDAY, 27TH. I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THEM ON THAT. THAT'S CONCERNING THAT AND WE'LL FOLLOW-UP TO MOVE FORWARD. AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE A LEAST, BUT WE NEED THE GET ON A STATE WHERE WE MOVE ON FROM THE SETTLEMENT PLACE. AND ON PROPERTY TAXES. WHEN I SPOKE TO MY FINANCE STAFF ABOUT THE PROPERTY TAXES, I WAS TOLD THAT WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED THREE MONTHS OF PAYMENTS AND BILLED IT AND WHEN I DELVED INTO IT, I FOUND THAT WASN'T THE CASE. WE DID RECEIVE A LETTER FROM THE TAX COLLECTORS OFFICE THAT THE BILL WAS RECEIVED ON TIME AND RESPONDED TO MY INVESTIGATION AND USING THOSE WORDS WITH THE STAFF AND RESPONDED TO THE TAX COLLECTORS OFFICE THAT THE BILL WAS ISSUED TO THE CITY IN A TIMELY MANNER AND AFTER SPEAKING WITH THE STAFF, I FOUND OUT THAT WE DID NOT BILL IN 23 AND 24 UNTIL JULY 25TH, AND TAX BILLED FOR SEPTEMBER 25TH. I DID APOLOGIZE TO THE TAX COLLECTORS OFFICE. I'M GADDRESSING THAT INCIDENTALLY WITH THE DEPARTMENT STAFF. WHEN I COME ON THIS DAIS, I EXPECT THAT I HAVE GREAT INFORMATION. I'M NOT GOING QUESTION MY STAFF. WHEN THEY TELL ME A STATEMENT, I'M GOING TO TAKE IT PUBLIC. IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE WHAT I WAS TOLD WAS IN FACT, WITH MY DETAILED INQUIRY. WHEN I MAKE THESE TYPES OF STATEMENTS GIVEN TO ME FROM STAFF, I HAVE TO GET CORROBORATING EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT WHAT I'M SAYING. THIS IS THE FISCAL IMPACT. WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY FUNDS FROM THE TENANT. THIS REPRESENTS RENT AS WELL AS SALES, ALCOHOL, FOOD, ICE CREAM SALES. IN THE PAST DUE AMOUNT FROM OCTOBER 26TH TO FEBRUARY 26TH, PROPERTY TAXES FROM 23, 24, 25, FOR $132,000. THAT'S THE FISCAL IMPACT. I WILL TALK ABOUT THIS IN THE NEXT SLIDE. THE LEASE AMOUNTS IN THE SALES AMOUNTS. NEXT STEPS.

WHAT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO DO IS WHEN THE TITLE WAS COMPLETE WE'LL BRING BACK TO THE DAIS AND LOOKING TO RECOVER THE FUNDS AND LOOKING FORWAR TO RECOUPE FUNDS THAT IS ABOUT $3.1 MILLION. WE

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ARE LOOKING AT $3.1 MILLION FROM 2026 TO 2040 IN REVENUE. WE WILL BRING BACK TO YOU ALONG WITH STAFF ASKING FOR DIRECTION ON THAT. IN THE MEANTIME, AS WELL, WE NEED TO CONSIDER DEVELOPING

AN RFP. I BELIEVE THAT'S THE LAST SLIDE. >>THE STAFF IS STILL IN PROCESS

OF THE TITLE SEARCH? >> YES, IN THE END OF NEXT WEEK. WE'LL HAVE THAT COMPLETE.

>>COMMISSIONERS? >> MADAM MAYOR, I WILL START. I HAVE REQUESTED THIS ITEM BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA. WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS ISSUE SEVERAL TIMES AND I HAVE EXPRESSED MY CONCERN IN THAT PROPOSAL SUBMITTED BY CRABBY'S SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO THE COMMISSION FOR TO US DIGEST, PROCESS AND THEN DISCUSS. IT WAS NOT DONE IN THAT ORDER. AND I FEEL THAT WAS NOT APPROPRIATE. ESPECIALLY IN A LOT OF THESE SPENDING LIMITATIONS THAT THE CITY MANAGER HAS FOR HIM TO BE ABLE TO MANAGE THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY ON THE DEFAULT AND THE POTENTIAL MOVING FORWARD, I CONSIDER TO THE NOT APPROPRIATE ON THE PERSPECTIVE. THE CITY COMMISSION SHOULD HAVE CONSIDERED THESE. THAT'S MY CRITICISM OF THE CITY SIDE OF THIS. I HAVE MULTIPLE CRITICISMS ON THE TENANT SIDE YOU DON'T COME TO A LANDLORD ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL MONTHS OF RENT. THAT'S NOT HOW THIS WORKS. YOU NEED TO COME FORWARD TO SAY I HAVE A PROBLEM AND CAN WE HAVE A DISCUSSION AND THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERE WITH US AS THE LANDLORDS OF THE PROPERTY. HAVING SAID THAT, MY COMMENTARY ON THE LAST TIME WE HAD CRABBY'S ON THE AGENDA. THEY WERE BEHIND ON THEIR RENT FOR 3 MONTHS. THE REAL ESTATE TAX ISSUE, WE OWN THAT. WE WEREN'T BILLED PROPERLY AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN WORKED OUT WITH THE TENANT TO TAKE INSTALLMENT PAYMENT FOR THE RECAPTURE OF THE FUNDS AND TO GET PAYMENT IN FULL. AND THREE MONTHS IN THE ARREARS ON THE RENT ALREADY AND ASKING FOR TAXES TO BE PAID AS WELL AND WE ARE SETTING UP FOR FAILURE AND NO DISCUSSION WITH AUTHORITY TO MAKE DECISIONS ON MOST LIKELY THE LARGEST RENT PAYING TENANT THAT THE CITY HAS. I'M GOING TO SPECULATE. I'M NOT SURE OF THAT, BUT SPECULATING THAT COULD BE THE CASE TO THE TUNE OF $15,000 A MONTH IN RENT. SO NOBODY HAS CLEAN HANDS HERE. IT'S A VERY MESSY SITUATION. FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, I UNDERSTAND THE TENANT DEFAULTED ON THE LEASE BY NOT PAYING, HOWEVER, IF YOU READ THE LEASE, AND I HAVE READ THE LEASE. THE TAX REIMBURSEMENT PROVISION IS HORRIBLY DRAFTED. IT DOESN'T LAYOUT THE PROCEDURE FOR THIS. SO, THE CITY HAS TO TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THAT PROBLEM. THE TENANT HAS TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR RENT PAYMENT ISSUE, AND COMING UP WITH A PROPOSAL FOR 18 MONTHS FREE RENT ON TOP OF THREE MONTHS, WHICH I'M ASSUMING WAS ALREADY INCURRED WHICH WAS 4-5 MONTHS WHEN THAT WAS INSTITUTED AND THE REAL ESTATE TAXES THEY ARE WALKING AWAY ENTIRELY. THAT MAKES NO SENSE AS A LANDLORD THAT THAT IS AN ACCEPTABLE SOLUTION TO HAVING SOME DIFFICULTY. THEY MADE A CASE FOR KINGSLANDING TO BE DELAYED AND THAT COST 25% OF THEIR GROSS REVENUE. SOMEWHERE IN THAT AREA. THE PARKING SITUATION DOWNTOWN WAS NOT FAVORABLE FOR THEM. THE PARKING SITUATION DOWNTOWN HAS BEEN THE SAME SINCE THEY HAVE BEEN THERE. IT HASN'T CHANGED AT ALL THAT I HAVE BEEN AWARE OF. SO THE BASIS FOR THEIR ARGUMENT DID NOT CARRY A LOT OF WEIGHT FOR ME. THE ASK ON THE OTHER HAND WAS MASSIVE 18 MONTHS, AN INAPPROPRIATE ASK AND KNEW THAT COULDN'T BE APPROVED BY THE CITY COMMISSION AND COULD HAVE BEEN SOME NEGOTIATIONS. I THINK OUR BREAKDOWN IS WE DID NOT HAVE THEM HERE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. SAME THING WITH THE

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KINGSLANDING. WHEN WE HAD AN ISSUE, WE WOULD TALK ABOUT IT AND STRAIGHTEN THINGS OUT. IN THIS CASE, WE TREATED THE TENANT SHORTLY, I THINK, BUT RIGHTFULLY SO. THEY ARE IN DEFAULT. CLEARLY THE ACTIONS THAT THE CITY TOOK WERE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LEASE AGREEMENT, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE STATUTE AND UNFORTUNATELY THIS IS WHERE WE FIND OURSELVES IN A MESS HERE.

THE MESS IS WE HAVE A NON-PERFORMING ASSET, WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE LIEN RIGHTS AGAINST THE BUILDING. WE NEED TO GET THOSE QUESTIONS ANSWERED QUICKLY BEFORE MORE DEMAND LETTERS START FLYING BACK AND FORTH FROM ALL THE PARTIES THAT WERE OPERATING THIS THAT WE DID NOT OPERATE IT CORRECTLY. SO THOSE ANSWERS NEED TO BE SECURED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND SHE HAD A LIGHT ON HOW WE'LL PROCEED HERE. MY SUGGESTION IS THAT WHEN YOU DO A WHOLE ANALYSIS ON THIS, YOU DECIDE WHO HAS CLEAN HANDS. THAT'S MY PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE, PROFESSIONAL PERSPECTIVE ON

THIS. I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT. THAT'S WHERE WE FIND OURSELVES. >>MR. CHESS, WANTED TO COMMENT.

>>STILL WITH THE DIRECTION GOING FORWARD, IN GOOD CONSCIENCE, I COULD NOT BRING THAT PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU AS THEY HAD NOT RESPONDED IN TIME. I COULD HAVE BROUGHT IT BEFORE YOU, BUT THERE IS NO WAY I'M GOING TO BRING THAT TYPE OF PROPOSAL TO THE COMMISSION. KNOWING THAT THEY ARE STIFFING US FOR FOUR MONTHS OF RENT. FOR THE PROPERTY TAXES, I OWN IT AS PART OF WHAT MY STAFF TOLD ME. BUT IN GOOD CONSCIENCE, IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME TO BRING THAT YOU TYPE OF PROPOSAL FOR THAT PARTICULAR JUNCTURE. THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO WALK AWAY. I WAS TRYING TO TRACK THEM DOWN FROM THE TIME WE SENT THE LETTER OUT. THEY DIDN'T HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH US. WE COULD HAVE VERY WELL, I CAN'T PAY IT, CAN WE DISCUSS IT. THERE WAS NO CONVERSATION WHATSOEVER. WE FOUND OUT BY SOCIAL MEDIA. ONE OF OUR STAFF SAID THEY WERE TELLING THEIR EMPLOYEES THEY ARE LEAVING. FOR KNOW PUT THAT ON THE PROPOSAL WITH NO AGENDA WITH NO COMMUNICATION FOR FOUR MONTHS, I COULDN'T DO THAT. MOVING FORWARD, I WILL DO THAT. BUT THEY NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH CITY ADMINISTRATION TO COME HERE TO SAY I SPOKE TO THIS TENANT AND THE OTHER SITUATION IS AND PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. THAT IS WHY I DID NOT PUT IT ON THE AGENDA IMMEDIATELY. DEFAULT TRIGGERED A DIFFERENT RESULT. I APPRECIATE THAT WE DISCUSSED THIS.

>>I'M SAYING THAT I AGREE WITH THAT. BUT TO DEFAULT FOR THREE MONTHS.

>>I DO AGREE WITH YOU THAT THE PROPOSAL SHOULD HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH YOU. YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN

WAS IN THE REPORTS. >>I WAS GOING TO TO MAKE THAT POINT. WE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN MUCH EARLIER. WE SHOULD HAVE HAD THAT CONVERSATION, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW. SO, I THINK THAT'S

SOMETHING YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT. >>COMMISSIONER GAINES? CITY COMMISSIONER ARNOLD GAINES MAYBE I'M JUST MISSING SOMETHING. I HAVE A TENANT THAT IS 3-4 MONTHS THAT HAVEN'T PAID US A DIME. WHAT I HEARD TONIGHT WAS THAT WE SHOULD BRING THAT IN FRONT OF US WITH THIS PROPOSAL, AND THEN IF SOMETHING COULD HAVE BEEN WORKED OUT AFTER THEY ARE ALREADY IN DEFAULT. WHAT ARE WE SAYING NOW? ARE WE SAYING THAT THE TENANT IN FORT PIERCE GET BEHIND AND ASK FOR FREE RENT FOR 18 MONTHS. IF THEY DIDN'T, NOT ONE TIME FROM TALKING WITH MR. CHESSOR ANY DOCUMENT THAT I HAVE SEEN THAT THEY OFFERED TO PAY ONE MONTHS RENT NOT ONE TIME. SO, I'M JUST DUMBFOUNDED THAT I'M ACTUALLY GLAD HE DIDN'T BRING IT IN FRONT OF ME BECAUSE I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BLOWN MY STACK. WHY ARE WE DISCUSSING THIS WHEN THEY ARE IN ARREARS. WHAT MESSAGE ARE WE SENDING. IF WE DON'T GET THAT, WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY RENT. STUFF HAPPENS. OKAY. SO, I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO WHATEVER HAPPENED WITH THE STAFF AND MR. CHESS. FOR OUR CONVERSATION, HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO HANDLE IT. I BELIEVE HIS WORD. IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN, IT'S ANOTHER

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CONVERSATION. HE HAS HIS STAFF. WHAT AM I HEARING HERE TONIGHT? WE HAVE CONTRACTS THAT YOU CAN DEFAULT ON AND SAY, LET ME GO TO THE CITY COMMISSION TO GET SOME TYPE OF DEAL THAT WE CAN WORK THIS OUT WHEN NOT ONE TIME HAVE THEY TRIED TO COME AND SAY, I CAN'T PAY THIS BY THE 15, CAN YOU GIVE ME X AMOUNT OF DAYS TO PAY THIS. THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY DID. WHAT THEY DID IS TOLD THEIR STAFF AND SOCIAL MEDIA THAT OUR LAST DAY WAS THE 15. THEY HAVE NO INTENTION ON PAYING. I CAN READ WHAT I READ ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I READ IT. THEY WERE TELLING THE STAFF THAT THEIR LAST DATE WAS THE 15. WHEN THEY GOT THAT LETTER, THEY MADE THE DECISION THAT THEY ARE LEAVING ON THE 15. SO THEY ARE NOT GOING TO PAY US. TO HAVE A MEETING TO DISCUSS THE DEAL WHEN THEY ARE IN THE REAR FOR RENT, I'M MISSING SOMETHING BECAUSE IF WE OPEN UP THAT PANDORA'S BOX, I'M

TRYING TO BE -- >>LET ME JUST RESPOND TO THAT. MAYBE YOU DIDN'T HEAR WHAT I SAID. I SAID THE TIME TO ASK FOR THIS IS NOT WHEN YOU ARE IN DEFAULT CLEARLY. THAT'S MY INTENTION AND MY GOSPEL. THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. YOU ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH OUR STATEMENTS

HERE. >>ALL I KNOW IS, 3-4 MONTHS IN THE ARREARS. TELL ME HOW THAT'S

THE CITY'S FAULT? >> YOU ARE ASKING ME? >> ANYBODY, I'M TALKING TO MY

COMMISSIONERS? >> IT'S NOT THE CITY'S FAULT. THAT GETS PLACED ON THE TENANT.

>>RIGHT. >>I MADE THAT CLEAR. >>I KNOW YOU HAVE, BUT STUFF IS GOING AROUND THEY HAVE ABOUT PASSED THAT PART, THEY PASSED FOUR MONTHS.

>>THAT'S WHY I SAID IN THE MEETING, PUT THIS OUT THERE. THAT'S MY COMMENT.

>>THAT'S WHAT I WAS SUGGESTING. >>UNTIL YOU GET PAST THE FOUR MONTHS AND PAYING THE FOUR MONTHS THAT YOU OWE AND BE TREATED LIKE EVERY OTHER TENANT, DON'T COME TO ME WITH AN ABATEMENT TO TALK ABOUT AN ADDITIONAL 18 MONTHS OF FREE RENT. SO, I'M DOING BUSINESS

WITH THIS CITY IF YOU ARE GIVING ME 18 MONTHS. >>LET'S GET SOME OTHER PEOPLE IN

HERE. >>I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE GOING WITH THIS. WE ASK FOR THIS DISCUSSION FOR US TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION. HERE IS MY THING. FIRST OF ALL, LET ME THANK STAFF FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND WALKING US THROUGH THIS. SHARING PUBLICLY SOME THINGS THAT I WAS NOT GOING TO SHARE AS A COMMISSIONER BECAUSE I WAS UNCLEAR. IF I'M NOT CLEAR ON SOMETHING, I DON'T UNDERSTAND, I'M GOING TO WAIT FOR INFORMATION TO COME OUT AND THIS IS OUR LEVEL SET RIGHT NOW AS A COMMISSION AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT IN PUBLIC AND NOT VIOLATE STAFF. THANK YOU, STAFF. I ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE WHAT MR. CHESS AND GAINES SAID. WE CONTRACT WITH YOU GUYS TO RUN YOUR STAFF, HOW YOU RUN YOUR STAFF. SO, WHATEVER MEASURES YOU ARE OVER THERE, ALL I'M LOOKING FOR IS CORRECTIVE POLICIES PUT IN PLACE SO THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN.

WE CAN'T BE BACK HERE AGAIN. THIS IS A LEARNING EXERCISE. AND I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT THOSE CORRECT MEASURES ARE. HOW IS THIS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN. THAT'S WHAT I CAN ASSURE THE PUBLIC. THAT'S WHERE I WANT TO GO IS GAINING THE PUBLIC TRUST TO PUTTING CORRECTIVE ACTIONS THAT THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN AGAIN AND ASSURE THE REST OF OUR TENANTS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT HAVE A LEASE WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE THAT THIS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED AND WE ARE NOT ADDRESSING ANOTHER DEAL ON THE SPOT. I THANK YOU FOR THIS. WE ARE ALSO ON THE SAME THING AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE GOING TONIGHT. BUT SEEING THE TITLE WORK BECAUSE I'M REALLY CONCERNED WITH THAT. AND WHAT MAY BE THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THAT AND WE MAY HAVE A TOTAL OF DIFFERENT CONVERSATION AS A RESULT OF US UNDERSTANDING ALL OF THE INFORMATION IN THE FINANCIAL SITUATION WE MAY FIND OURSELVES IN. IT'S BEEN GLEAME A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT THAT WE

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KNOW WE HAD A CONTRACT SIGNED FOR 2040. IF THAT TENANT WOULD HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 2040, THAT WOULD HAVE REALIZED OVER $3 MILLION TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. MY MIND IS ALREADY THERE BECAUSE I WAS EXPECTING THIS TO 2040. THE INTERESTING THING IS WE HAVE AN ASSET THERE AND WHERE IT IS AND WHERE WE GO FROM THERE TO CLOSE THAT GAP AND FIGURE THAT OUT. THAT'S ALL I WANT TO

SAY ON THIS PARTICULAR POINT, MADAM MAYOR, THANK YOU. >>WILL P -- YOU EVEHAVE TO REAC TO THE CITY IMMEDIATELY. I HAVE SEEN CHALLENGES. SOME OF US CAN RECITE SOME OF THEM. THAT IS TO TAKE NOTE ON THAT AND IF YOU NEED OUTSIDE HELP IN ORDER TO MANAGE THAT TYPE OF SITUATION.

YOU HIRED SOMEBODY AS YOUR DEPUTY. I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE DIRECTION TO DO THE RESEARCH ON THAT AND REALLY START DRILLING DOWN ON THAT. AND I HAVE TO ALSO SAY, FOR FULL DISCLOSURE, WHEN I MET WITH YOU, MR. CHESS, MR. COST AND CITY ATTORNEY, I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL WITH SOMEONE WHO HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE OWNERS AND FROM THE GENERAL MANAGER. IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT I RAISE THE IDEA TO YOU ABOUT HAVING THEM HAVE A CONVERSATION. AND I WAS GIVEN THE PHONE NUMBER FOR MR. POWERS, REACHED OUT TO MR. POWERS, HAD THE DISCUSSION, HE INDICATED AND GAVE ME THE HISTORY OF THE CHALLENGES THAT HE FACED OF THE RESTAURANTEUR, UNDERSTANDABLE, BUT WOULD HAVE TO TALK TO MR. HARDY AND SEE IF THAT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT HE SUGGESTED I SPEAK WITH HIM TO BRING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR TO YOU MEET TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. I WANTED TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD. FULL DISCLOSURE. I DID GET THE TEXT EARLIER. I DON'T RECALL THE EXACT LANGUAGE, BUT I THINK IT SAYS SOMETHING PAIR PHRASING THAT HE WILL NO LONGER BE TALKING TO US, BUT WILL BE TALKING TO AN ATTORNEY. I WILL GET THAT SCREENSHOT FROM MY PHONE AND SHARE IT WITH YOU. THAT WAS SOMETHING TO MAKE SURE

IT WAS PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD. >>ONE IS TO BE SURE WE HAVE REVIEWED THE OTHER LEASES AND HAVE A HANDLE ON THAT IN TERMS OF GOING FORWARD BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER LEASES OUT THERE THAT WE KNOW AND WE WANT TO BE SURE THIS ISN'T HAPPENING IN OTHER INSTANCES. THAT IS THE FIRST THING WE NEED TO DO. I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT

FOR SEVERAL YEARS. >>WORKING WITH THE CITY CLERK WHO IS WORKING ON THE CUSTODIAN OF THE LEASES AND THE ACTUAL LEASE AGREEMENTS AND WE TALKED TO ALL THE HEADS TO SUBMIT THE LEASES ON THE MARINA SIDE AND TAKING THAT INFORMATION AND COMPARING IT TO THE DATABASE SO OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER JOHNSON IS GOING TO CREATE A DATABASE TO BRING THEM TOGETHER TO CREATE A SYSTEM OF WHERE WE CAN MONITOR THAT AND GET IT OUT TO THE DEPARTMENT. WE ARE GOING TO

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AUTOMATE THE PROCESS TO START THAT AND WHEN THAT SUMMARY IS COMPLETE, I WILL BRING THAT SUMMARY TO YOU TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE SOME INSTANCES WHERE WE PROBABLY HAVE TO RENEW LEASES AND PUT RFP'S OUT. I WILL COMPILE THAT AND WORKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER.

>>SOMEBODY NEEDS TO READ THOSE LEASES AND SEE IF THEY ARE IN COMPL

COMPLIANCE. >>WE ARE GOING TO GET A SUMMARY OF THE LEASES AND GET A RECORD OF IT AND THE LEASE TERMS, IF IT'S STILL IN EFFECT AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE CONTRACT MANAGER ASKED TO LOOK AT THE LEASE DELIVERABLES FOR MONEY WE RECEIVE, PAYING OR PRESCRIBED.

WE ARE GOING TO DO A DEEP DIVE INTO THAT. FIRST THING FIRST IS TO GET THE SUMMARY ON THE LIST, ON THE PROJECT MANAGER AND THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER AND WE'LL BE REVIEWING THOSE LEASES.

>>YES, YOU NEED TO BE SURE THAT THINGS AREN'T FALLING THROUGH THE CRACKS BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE THE PROJECT MANAGER, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE MONITORING TO BE SURE THE CHECKS ARE COMING IN.

YOU NEED THE CHECKS AND BALANCES FOR ALL THE LEASES BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST ENDEAVORS AT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND THIS IS REVENUE THAT WE NEED TO BE ON TOP OF.

>>YES, MADAM MAYOR. WE NEED TO HAVE A DATE OF WHEN THAT WILL BEGIN.

>>LET ME SPEAK TO THE CITY MANAGER TO GET THAT TIMEFRAME FROM HIM.

>>TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT THE COMMISSIONER SAID, WE HAVE AN EXPECTATION THAT WE WILL SHARE WITH THAT PUBLICLY AND WE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S WHAT AND WHERE THE LEASES ARE AND WE'LL DO IT PUBLICLY AND SHARE IT SO EVERYONE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.

>>THANK YOU FOR THAT. >>I DO KNOW, WE OBVIOUSLY, HAVE SOME FAILURES WHEN IT COMES TO MANAGING OUR ASSETS. FOR CRABBY'S, OTHER PROPERTY, OTHER ISSUES. I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO IT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO DRAG ORGANIZATIONS INTO IT. BUT IT IS APPARENT TO ME OUR INABILITY TO PROPERLY MANAGE OUR CITY-OWNED ASSETS AND TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION TO SILO THESE INTO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. WE NEED A CORE HUB WHERE THE LEASES ARE ADMINISTERED THROUGH AND WE HAVE LEASES WITH PUBLIC WORKS, AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS. WE HAVE NON-REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS MANAGING THESE ASSETS IN DIFFERENT WAYS. ONE DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO MANAGE IT DIFFERENT FROM OTHERS. IF WE HAVE ONE DEPARTMENT IN CHARGE OF ALL OF THESE, THERE IS A SPECIFIC WAY TO MANAGE THESE. IF PUBLIC WORKS HAS ONE WAY TO HANDLE THE LEASE, THE OTHER DEPARTMENT WILL SAY THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT. THERE IS NO CONSISTENCY HERE. I UNDERSTAND THE SIMPLICITY OF SAYING YOU GO TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT ARE HANDLING THAT PARTICULAR LEASE AGREEMENT SAYING YOU HAVE TO BE ON TOP OF THIS, I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT METHODOLOGY. THAT'S NOT MY PLACE TO DICTATE THAT. THAT'S UP TO THE CITY MANAGER. FROM MY PROFESSIONAL PROPERTY COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE COMPANY, I WOULD NEVER HANDLE IT THAT WAY. BUT THAT'S NOT MY DECISION TO MAKE.

HAVING SAID THAT, I'M CONCERNED THAT WE HAVE A TRACK RECORD HERE THAT IS BECOMING MORE DISAPPOINTING BY THE EVENT THAT HAPPENS. MANY OF THESE, BEFORE MR. CHESS'S TIME. I'M NOT PUTTING CITY MANAGER ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS. I'M SUGGESTING THAT HA

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HISTORICALLY WE HAVE MISMANAGED CITY ASSETS. WE NEED TO STREAMLINE THIS AND DO THIS APPROPRIATELY. THE FIRST PIECE IS THE DOCUMENT THAT WE ARE WAITING ON TO TELL US WHAT WE ACTUALLY OWN. I WOULD BE HARD PRESSED FOR ANYONE TO ANSWER THIS. CAN YOU LIST WHAT THE CITY OWNS? IT'S BEING WORKED ON, I GET IT. MY CONCERN IS MISMANAGEMENT OF REAL ESTATE OWNED ASSETS CONTINUES AND IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY BAD. YOU HAVE $60,000 OF OUTSTANDING RENT WHEN WE ARE SENDING DEMAND LETTERS IS A BIG NUT TO COVER. YOU ARE HIRING PEOPLE TO TAKE THAT POSITION, WE HAVE LOST TWICE THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY IN JUST THIS ONE ISSUE WITH CRABBY'S WHERE WE SPEND $75,000 ON UTILITIES. THESE ARE MY CONCERNS THAT NEED TO BE STREAMLINED AND FIXED. THIS INCOME IS CRITICAL. WE HAVE TO FILL GAPS IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE THAT MONEY IS NOT

COMING IN. I HAVE SAID MY PEACE ON IT. I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT. >>COMMISSIONER, I HEAR YOU. BUT HERE IS WHERE WE ARE. YOU MADE A VERY VALID POINT, MR. CHESS INHERITED THIS STUFF AND WE HAVE TO FIGURE THIS STUFF OUT. I'M CERTAINLY HOLDING HIM ACCOUNTABLE TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION AND UP TO US TO FIGURE OUT WHEN WE FUND THIS PERSON, OR MOVEMENT OR METHODOLOGY BECAUSE WE HAD SOMETHING IN OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR THAT HE PROPOSED TO BRING SUCH PERSON TO RESOURCE AND WE CUT THAT POSITION BECAUSE WE HAD TO FUND OTHER HIGH PRIORITY PUBLIC SAFETY NEEDS.

SO, I THINK WE ALSO HAVE SOME OWNERSHIP ON THIS AS THE COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE THE FINAL BUDGET AND I'M SAYING THAT PUBLICLY BECAUSE WE MADE THE TOUGH DECISIONS TO NOT FUND WHAT HE ASKED FOR, TO FUND AT THE TIME THE MOST PARAMOUNT THIS THAT IS PUBLIC SAFETY. WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU, COMMISSIONERS, I LOOK FORWARD FOR YOU TO PROPOSE HOW WE ARE GOING TO FIX THIS BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE FIXED AND CORRECTIVE ACTIONS TAKEN. YOU'VE HIRED AN ASSISTANT DEPUTY MANAGER. BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT HOW WE STAND THIS UP AND HOW WE POSITION THIS, I THINK THAT'S ON US BECAUSE WE HAVE TO FIGURE THIS BUDGET OUT. AND WE HAVE TO BALANCE OUR BUDGET AND WE

PRIORITIZE, PUT A HEAVY ON WHAT WE PUT MONEY BEHIND. THANK YOU. >> REAL QUICK, MADAM MAYOR.

COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE I'M ABOUT TO FALL OUT OF MY CHAIR. WHAT I'M HEARING TONIGHT, OUR CITY MANAGER ASKED FOR A PERSON TO HIRE IN HIS OFFICE TO HAVE HIM DO WHAT WE ARE ASKING HIM TO DO AND WE SAID NO. WE CHANGED THE BUDGET TO MOVE MONEY AND DO WHATEVER WE HAD TO DO AT THE TIME. I'M JUST BEING VERY CLEAR FROM WHAT COMMISSIONER BRODERICK IS SAYING BECAUSE THAT'S YOUR EXPERTISE ON CONSTRUCTION AND THE LEGAL SIDE.

SO MY QUESTION TONIGHT TO THE COMMISSION BECAUSE I CAN'T TALK TO YOU ALL, ARE WE NOW SAYING THAT WE WANT TO GO BACK TO GET THE POSITION HE ASKED FOR AND AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONER AS MIGHT BE ONE SILO AS YOU ARE SAYING AND SO ASKING HIM TO GO OUT AND FIND THAT PERSON AND THAT PERSON IS ONLY GOING TO DO, AS THE MAYOR SAID, EYES ON THE LEASES, EYES ON THE MONEY. ARE WE SAYING THAT NOW, OR ARE WE GOING TO WAIT AND SEE IF THE PROCESS THAT HE WANTS TO DO IS WORTH IT AND WE ARE SATISFIED WITH IT BECAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING NOW IS W ONE PERSON, TWO DEPUTY CITY MANAGER'S AND LOOKS LIKE HE'S GOING TO DIVIDE THE WORK. ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE IS GOING TO HAVE THE CONTRACTS IN FRONT OF THEM. WE ARE AT THIS JUNCTURE. NONE OF US WANT TO BE HERE AGAIN. NONE OF US. DO WE NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE BUDGET BECAUSE I'M NOT AN EXPERT

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OF WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR. I READ CONTRACTS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I DO, BECAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING AND WHAT WE ALL KNOW, WE HAVE CONTRACTS IN EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THIS CITY WITH TENANTS. RIGHT. WHAT YOU SAID, ONE DEPARTMENT MIGHT SAY WE'LL WAIVE THIS, ANOTHER DEPARTMENT WILL NOT. SO, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE ARE GOING FIX THAT. NOW WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT POSITION TO HAVE SOMEBODY JUST TO SAY, HEY, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ABCD FOR ALL THE CITY LEASES. THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN THINK ABOUT AWAYS I BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO COME BACK SIX MONTHS LATER AND NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT THE VOTE FOR THE BUDGET, MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE GIVEN HIM THAT PERSON AND WE WOULDN'T BE DOING THIS RIGHT NOW. WE COULD HAVE MISSED IT BECAUSE I'M GLAD YOU AND COMMISSIONER JOHNSON SAID IT AND I SAID IT FOR YEARS, WE ARE FIXING PROBLEMS THAT HAPPENED BEFORE WE WERE HERE, COMMISSIONER BRODERICK, AND THESE LEASES THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE COMING TO HEAD WHILE WE ARE HERE. WELCOME TO THE PARTY.

HOWEVER, WE ARE FIXING STUFF THAT WE DIDN'T CREATE. AT ONE POINT, WE NEED TO STOP AND SAY, HEY, LET'S START WITH THIS CONTRACT. LET'S FIX THIS ONE, SO WE WON'T BE HERE AGAIN. I WANT TO THROW THAT BACK OUT THERE BECAUSE HE DID ASK FOR IT AND WE SAID NO, ALL OF US BECAUSE WE WERE MOVING THE MONEY AND PLANNING THE BUDGET. AND THEY DID A GREAT JOB WITH THE BUDGET TO GET WHERE WE HAD TO GET TO. BUT IF IT IS SOMETHING YOU REALLY WANT AND YOU FEEL IN YOUR EXPERTISE IN THE COMMERCIAL WORLD THAT WE NEED. WE NEED TO MAKE THAT DECISION TO GIVE HIM

THE TOOLS HE NEEDS. >>I HAVE A QUICK RESPONSE TO COMMISSIONER GAINES.

>>COMMISSIONER GAINES, I WILL SUGGEST THAT DETERMINATION NEEDS TO BE DONE AFTER WE HAVE THE MANAGEMENT AND EYES ON THAT. I WORK WITH A SMALL PORTFOLIO. I KNOW WHAT AMOUNT IT TAKES TO DEAL WITH THIS. I ASKED FOR THESE REPORTS FOR SOME TIME. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SECRET IS, BUT I NEED TO KNOW WHAT SKILLS YOU NEED AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME TO HANDLE THAT.

>>I CAN LIVE WITH THAT. >>YES, WE MADE A CONCESSION IN THE BUDGET AND IT'S TAKEN THIS LONG TO GET IT. EVEN IF YOU WANT HIM TO CREATE IT. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S THROWING PEOPLE AT IT

RIGHT NOW, IT'S JUST MAKING SURE WE GET THE BASIC INFORMATION. >>WE HAVE TO KNOW WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH HERE. IT MIGHT BE A SMALLER PROBLEM, AND I'M HOPEFUL THAT'S THE CASE. FROM WHAT I'M TOLD FROM OTHER PARTIES, THE CITY OWNS A HUGE PORTFOLIO OF REL REAL ESTATE. WE HAVE TO GET A HANDLE ON HOW TO MANAGE IT MOVING FORWARD. I LOOK FORWARD TO THE REPORT THAT MR. CHESS' STAFF IS GENERATING THAT WILL BRING A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS. IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, WE HAVE A LINE ITEM FOR IT AND IT HAD TO GO AWAY. I AGREED WITH THAT TO IN THE BUDGET TO MAKE THOSE CONCESSIONS THAT WERE MANDATORY. I WAS AGAINST RED INK SPENDING

AND THAT WAS ONE OF THOSE CONCESSIONS I HAD TO GIVE. >>IT TOOK US THREE MEETINGS TO

GET THROUGH THE BUDGET. >>DO YOU WANT TO GET IN HERE? >> HAPPY ANNIVERSARY TO ME. THIS HAS BEEN AN INTERESTING 30 DAYS. IT'S EVIDENT THAT THE CITY HAS CHALLENGES. SO, I'M GOING TO

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EUATE THIS TO A 12 STEP PROGRAM. RIGHT. THE FIRST STEP IS TO ADMIT THAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM AND WE HAVE DONE THAT TONIGHT AND HAVE DONE THAT FOR THE LAST FOUR WEEKS. THE NEXT ONE IS DEFINING STEP TWO AND THREE. THIS COMMISSION IN THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS TO TAKE THOSE

STEPS AND WE HAVE TO STAY ON TOP OF IT. >>WE HAVE TO STAY ON TOP OF IT.

>>YOU TALK ABOUT THE NEW DEPUTY, THAT IS THE PERSON TO START AND YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT. WHILE WE WANT TO HAVE THAT PERSON, IT'S BEEN DONE AND GOOD CHANCE TO MOVE FORWARD. THE BIG THING I WANT TO TAKEAWAY FROM A PUBLIC STANDPOINT IS THIS COMMISSION MADE A STEP IN FULL DISCLOSURE AND MOVING TO TRANSPARENCY. I THINK THAT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY, FOR THE RESIDENTS, FOR THE TAXPAYERS, ANYBODY THAT IS READING SOCIAL MEDIA FOR GOODNESS SATISFKE. THS AN OPPORTUNITY TO START OPERATING WHAT WE HAVE SEEN FOR MANY YEARS. I GOT ELECTED BECAUSE I SAW THIS MOVING FORWARD. WE HAVE TO DEVELOP AS A COMMISSION DEVELOP POLICIES TO GIVE TO MR., WHI CHESS TO IMPLE I PERSONALLY WILL MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE TO MR. CHESS AT ANY TIME IF HE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS POLICY ISSUES AND SO ON AND BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY TO STAFF TO REALLY DHIS GOES BACK TO PERSON RESPONSIBILITY. OUR PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY IS THE POLICY MAKER OF THE CITY. MR. CHESS'S PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY AS A CITY MANAGER, MS. COX AND HER IDENTIFICATION AS THE CLERK, AND OF COURSE, MS. HEDGES AS THE ATTORNEY. EACH US HAS A RESPONSIBILITY IN OUR CORE GROUP IN THE THREE-LEGGED STOOL THAT WE HAVE IS OUR MAIN BRAIN POINT THAT HAS TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP AND WORK TOGETHER TO MOVE ISSUES FORWARD. YOU CAN'T WORK AGAINST EACH OTHER. WE HAVE TO HAVE EACH OTHER'S BACK, IDENTIFY THINGS THAT ARE CHALLENGES OUT THERE. DON'T WAIT FOR THE OTHER PERSON IN YOUR THREE-WAY CONVERSATION GET BLIND SIDED. SOME OF THAT IS HAPPENING. I HAVE IDENTIFIED IT IN THE 30 DAYS THAT I HAVE BEEN HERE. I'M PUTTING IT ON THE TABLE THAT OUR THREE-LEGGED STOOL, OUR ADMINISTRATION. HAS TO COME TOGETHER AND HAS TO START WORKING TOGETHER AND PROTECTING THE OTHER PERSON, NOT TO KEEP THINGS HIDDEN, NO. BUT TO DEFINE, AND TO CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SUCCESS BECAUSE THIS BOARD EXPECTS OUR ADMINISTRATION TO HAVE SUCCESS ON OUR PART BECAUSE WE GET ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE. THEY MAKE A DECISION EVERY FOUR YEARS WHETHER OR NOT THESE PEOPLE SIT UP HERE. THE GOAL HERE FOR ME AND FOR YOU, AND I HAVE WORKED WITH YOU BEFORE, IT'S TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT AND DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THIS COMMUNITY. I THINK WE HAVE COME TO JESUS TONIGHT, AND HERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY. PASTOR HAD A GREAT PRESENTATION IN HER PRAYER.

>>YOU'RE WELCOME. >>, BUT AS PART OF THAT, IT WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN COME TOGETHER AND WHAT WE DO HERE HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY ON OUR SHOULDERS. EVERY TIME WE GO IN PUBLIC, PEOPLE TALK TO US AND GIVE US THEIR INPUT. IT DOESN'T GO UNNOTICED. WE ALL HEAR IT WHETHER WE ARE AT LUNCH OR DINNER, IT DOESN'T MATTER. WE ARE IN PUBLIC. WE GET IT. THE IDEA IS NOW WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE POLICIES NECESSARY TO FIX THE ISSUE AND FULL DISCLOSURE AND TRANSPARENCY HAS TO BE A PART OF THAT. MR. CHESS, I COMMEND YOU FOR STEPPING OUT AND TAKING RESPONSIBILITY. YOU WERE ATTACKED IN THE NEWSPAPER AGAIN, SAYING, OH, WELL, THEY CHANGED THEIR MIND. NO, INFORMATION COMES AND GOES. MISCOMMUNICATION HAPPENS. THAT'S WHAT HAPPEN HERE. WE OWNED IT, YOU OWNED IT, STAFF OWNED IT AND WE OWNED IT AS A COMMISSION. NOW IS THE TIME TO MOVE FORWARD. ACCEPT THE CRITICISM THAT WE GOT AND WE'LL STILL GET AFTER TONIGHT BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO GET IT. BUT OUR JOB IS TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD AND CREATE THE POLICIES NECESSARY TO FIX THE FOUNDATIONAL ISSUES OF THIS

CITY. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR. >>MAYOR LINDA HUDSON: THANK YOU. I THINK WE ARE GOING TO WIND THIS UP. MR. CHESS, I THINK YOU HAVE DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION. I THINK WE ARE READY

TO MOVE ON. >>MADAM MAYOR, THE SUGGESTION I WAS GOING TO MAKE RELATIVE TO

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THE CRABBY'S ISSUE IS MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE WE ARE GOING FORWARD WITH TITLE INFORMATION AND I BELIEVE THAT CAME BACK WITH NOTHING TO DATE. THIS IS A MOVING TARGET. IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO CHANGE. THE SITUATION IS GOING TO BE VERY FLUID MOVING FORWARD AND WE NEED

TO STAY INVOLVED IN THIS. >>YES, AND TO THE EXTENT THAT WE DO WANT TRANSPARENCY BETWEEN YOU

[14. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

AND US AND THE PUBLIC TOO. YES, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. WE ARE GOOD. OKAY.

>>LET'S MOVE ON. >>NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

14. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO COMMENT ON ANY SUBJECT MAY BE HEARD AT THIS TIME. PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE (3) MINUTES OR LESS, AS DIRECTED BY THE MAYOR, AS THIS SECTION OF THE AGENDA IS LIMITED TO THIRTY MINUTES. THE CITY COMMISSION WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE ANY OFFICIAL ACTIONS UNDER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

SPEAKERS WILL ADDRESS THE MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, AND THE PUBLIC WITH RESPECT. INAPPROPRIATE

LANGUAGE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. >>WE HAVE A CELEBRITY. STATE YOUR NAME FOR US.

>>PUBLIC SPEAKER: I'M STANDING IN FRONT OF THE YOU TODAY BECAUSE I WANT TO THANK YOU,

EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU. >>YOUR NAME, PLEASE. >>DOROTHY, A PRESIDENT OF HALL OF FAME, WE OPENED OUR MUSEUM ON FEBRUARY 20TH. WE DID THIS IN PARTNERSHIP WITH YOU. WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET A MUSEUM FOR YEARS. WE DID IT BECAUSE YOUR SUPPORT WAS DEFINITELY UNW UNWAIVERING EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. I KNOW WE ARE NOT AN EASY GROUP, NOT AT ALL. I KNOW. BUT YOU ALL STAYED WITH US. AND SUPPORTED US. AND WE OPENED THAT MUSEUM ON FEBRUARY 20TH. AND I HAVE BEEN TOLD AND IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL. IT IS SUCH A GREAT AREA WITH ENTERTAINMENT. WE HAVE A SCHOOL, WHICH I SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE AND THEY TOLD ME, WHICH WE DID, FULL DISCLOSURE, 33 STUDENTS TO COME WITH FIVE INSTRUCTORS FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH. LAST YEAR THEY VISITED THE HIGHWAY TRAIL. THE TEACHER SAID WE REALLY WANT TO COME TO THE MUSEUM. I TRIED TO DISSUADE HER, BUT I WASN'T ABLE TO DO SO. SO THEY CAME AND THEY LOVED IT AND THESE CHILDREN WERE SO KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THE HIGHWAY. THEY LOVED THE MUSEUM, THEY LOVED THE AREA. AND I ALSO HAVE TO GIVE THANKS TO MS. AUDREY MOORE BECAUSE SHE HAS GONE THROUGH THIS PROJECT SPECIALIST ON THE MUSEUM. SHE WORKED DAY AND NIGHT. SHE DID. ALSO PUBLIC WORKS, MR. CHESS, GIVE THEM A

BIG SOMETHING. >>PLEASE, GIVE IT TO THEM BECAUSE THEY CAME THAT WEDNESDAY, THAT THURSDAY, THAT FRIDAY MORNING TO MAKE SURE THAT AREA WAS READY FOR US BY 2:00 ON

THAT FRIDAY AFTERNOON. AND THAT'S UP QUICKLY. >>NINE SECONDS. C'MON, YOU CAN

DO IT. >>THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO THE HIGHWAY MUSEUM BECAUSE IT WAS WELL WORTH IT. I APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH. DON'T BEAT YOURSELF UP TOO MUCH.

>>WHO IS NEXT? >> WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO NEXT? >>

>>PUBLIC SPEAKER: CHARLEY WILSON. IF YOU THINK YOU HAVE TRANSPARENCY TONIGHT, YOU HAVE ANOTHER THINKING COMING BECAUSE YOU HAVE MISINFORMATION. AGAIN, YOU HAVE AN AUDITOR ACCUSING OF OF $10.5 MILLION OVERSPENDING ON STAFF. IF THAT COMES UP, THE IMPORTANT THING YOU WANT TO DO