[a. Email from Richard Laventure expressing his appreciation of Planner Brandon Creagan's diligence, effort and professionalism with the Premier plat and Home 2 Suites projects.]

MONTH. >> THE FOLLOWING LETTER WILL BE KEPT ON FILE.

WE RECEIVED AN E-MAIL FOR RICHARD LAVENTURE EXPRESSING HIS APPRECIATION TO PLANNER BRANDON CREAGAN DILIGENCE EFFORT AND PROFESSIONALISM IN THE PREMIERE PLAT AND HOME 2 SUITS.

[9. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

WE HAVE ADDITIONS AND DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA AND APPROVAL. >> I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THE COMMISSION APPROVE MOVING ITEM BB, 12 B B UP TO BEFORE THE VERY FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.

ORDINARILY I DON'T LIKE TO DO THAT, BUT THE REST OF PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE SECOND READINGS.

SO IF -- >> SO MOVED. >> IS THERE A

>> CALL JOHNSON.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> PERONA, YES, MA'AM. >> SESSIONS, YES,

>> MAYOR HUDSON. >> YES, MA'AM. NEXT WE HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[11. CONSENT AGENDA]

>> IS THERE ITEM THAT ANY COMMISSIONER WISHES TO PULL? >> MADAM, MAYOR, NUMBER 11

>> 11 A. >> PULLED.

OKAY. MOTION FOR THE REST OF THE >> SO

>> SECOND. >> ALL RIGHT. CALL THE

JOHNSON. >> YES, MA'AM. >> PRER OWNA,

>> PERONA, >> YES, MA'AM, >> SESSIONS, YES, MA'AM, MAYOR

[a. Approve Request for Extension of Time to pay lien reductions on 2404 Oleander Avenue, Ft. Pierce, FL 34982, Property ID Number 2422-604-0002-000-0 owned by Joan R. Stevenson (Est) and Evone McArthur, 2404 Oleander Avenue, Ft. Pierce, FL 34982, for a period of 12 months to December 3, 2020..]

HUDSON. A IS APPROVE REQUEST FOR EXTENSION OF TIME TO PAY LIEN

REDUCTIONS FOR A PERIOD OF 12 MONTHS TO DECEMBER 3RD, 2020. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

>> YES, MA'AM, THANK YOU. I JUST HAD, I WANTED TO ASK STAFF TO ELABORATE ON THIS ONE.

IN THE AGENDA ITEM, YOU SEE OVER THE PAST SIX MONTHS, IT WAS A LITTLE ODD.

THERE ARE PAYMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AND WE EXTENDED THIS PLAN FOR SIX MONTHS.

THE REQUEST IS TO EXTEND FOR ADDITIONAL 12 MONTHS, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S BEEN PAYMENTS TO DATE. A VERY LIMITED INCOME. THIS WAS A HOUSE THAT OR A

PROPERTY THAT HAD BEEN INHERITED AND TAKEN OVER BY RELATIVES. >> GOOD EVENING.

MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. >> YES, THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE THE PROPERTY WAS INHERITED. THE SISTER PASSED AWAY AND THE OTHER SISTER INHERITED THE MR. PRESIDENT AND MULTIPLE LIENS TO GO WITH IT. THE COMMISSION ACTUALLY OVER A YEAR AGO AGREED TO A REDUCTION. A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION, BUT THE OWNER MS. MCKARTHER IS LIMITED ON HER INCOME. SHE MAKES LESS THAN $800 A MONTH.

SHE HAS BEEN DILIGENT AND PAID $450 OF THE $750 AND PAYS WHAT SHE CAN WHEN SHE CAN.

SHE REQUESTED ANOTHER EXTENSION. STAFF OF COURSE IS WILLING, WE RECOMMEND MAKING THE EXTENSION BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A PURPOSE FOR A PENALTY. AND WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY CERTAIN THAT ANY CONTINUED PAYMENTS WOULD BENEFIT THE CITY IN ANY WAY.

SO, >> MADAM MAYOR. IS THE PROPERTY BASICALLY IN COMPLIANCE AS OF TODAY? HAVE THERE BEEN COMPLAINTS? WE HAVE NOT HAD COMPLAINTS SINCE

THE OWNER BROUGHT IT INTO COMPLIANCE. >> ALL OF THE COMPLAINTS WERE OUTSIDE STORAGE. THERE ARE NO MAJOR VIOLATIONS ON THE PROPERTY AND I HAVEN'T

RECEIVED ADDITIONAL COMPLAINTS, NO. >> THIS WAS JUST ODD TO ME BECAUSE THEY WERE ITEMS BUT NOT THE FULL AMOUNT OVER A LONG COURSE OF TIME.

I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHY UNTIL THE AGENDA OF COURSE. IT TALKED ABOUT THE LIMITED

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INCOME. I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GET A FEEL FOR THE COMMISSION, IT'S NOT NORMAL OF US TO TOTALLY ELIMINATE IT, BUT SOME PAYMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE.

THERE WAS SOME OF THE HARD COSTS HAVE BEEN COVERED THERE. SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS

ANY OTHER FEELINGS WITHIN THE BODY HERE OR NOT. >> COMMISSIONER SESSIONS.

>> IN LIGHT OF THE SITUATION WITH HER NOT HAVING THE RESOURCES TO PAY IN SUCH A SMALL BALANCE, LEFT OVER, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU.PMAYBE THIS IS SD LOOK INTO.

OR IN TERMS OF WAVING AT THIS POINT. IF THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING.

>> I FEEL LIKE SOME OF THE HARD COSTS HAVE BEEN COVERED THERE. SO,

>> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WAVING THE REST OF IT? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> I THINK THERE'S A BALANCE. WHAT IS THE AMOUNT? >> THE BALANCE IS $300.

>> AND THE HARD COSTS HAVE BEEN COVERED FOR THE MOST PART? >> THIS WAS ALL LONG-TERM CODE ENFORCEMENT. THIS IS SOMEBODY HARDSHIP.

>> IT IS. >> THIS IS THE ONE WHERE THE BECAUSE OF THE INHERITED

PROPERTY, IT HAD SAT FOR A LONG TIME IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY. >> IS THAT A MOTION?

>> I KNOW THIS IS DECEMBER AND CHRISTMAS AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, BUT I GET CAUTIOUS WHEN WE SET A PRECEDENT. WE HAVE BEEN DILIGENT ON DOING THIS.

THIS WAS REDUCED FROM WHAT NUMBER? >> IT WAS OVER $300,000.

>> THERE WAS THREE LIENS OVER THE COURSE OF THREE YEARS TOTALLING OVER $300,000.

>> IT GOT REDUCED TO THIS. NORMALLY WHEN IT GETS REDUCED TO THIS SMALLER AMOUNT, THOSE ARE HARD COSTS WHERE THE CITIZENS OF FORT PIERCE PAID FOR IN NOTICES OR MANPOWER OR WHATEVER ELSE LIKE THAT AND I'M TELLING YOU, I'M ONE THAT WANTS TO RECOVER AT LEAST THAT.

SO, IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE WHEN WE SIT HERE AND START MAKING THEM ALL GO AWAY.

I KNOW THE SITUATION IS THERE, AND I AGREE WITH THE DISCUSSION THAT'S HAPPENED SO FAR.

I JUST WANT TO BE AWARE WE HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE WAY THAT WE OVERLOOK AND WE LOOK AT

THESE THINGS. >> WELL, THE ONE MITIGATING FACTOR TO ME IS THE PERSON INHERITED WAS NOT THE CREATOR OF THE LARGE AMOUNT OF FINES. IS THE ONE WHO INHERITED IT.

>> MADAM MAYOR, THE ONLY THING I HAVE TO SAY IS THAT AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT, AND THEY INHERITED IT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN AUTOMOBILE THAT MAYBE A FLAT TIRE. I HAVE SEEN WORSE THAN THAT. YOU KNOW.

AGAIN, I'M WAITING ON THE MOTION MAKER. >> CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MUCH THE

HARD COSTS WOULD BE? >> I COULD. BEAR WITH ME.

>> OF THE 300. IF WE WERE LOOKING AT THE HARD COSTS BEING THE ACTUAL COSTS OF POSTAGE, MAILING, RECORDING COSTS AS THE HARD COSTS AND NOT JST THE TIME OPEN, THEY ARE FAIRLY MINIMAL. ON THIS CASE HERE, THE FILING FEES, PHOTOGRAPHS, MAILING EXPENSES COME TO 40 SOMETHING DOLLARS. WHAT IS YOUR USUAL DEFINITION OF

HARD COST? INCLUDES THE TIME. >> WELL THE HARD COSTS BECAUSE IT DOES INCLUDE HEARINGS. WE DO INCLUDE A FEE FOR HEARINGS.

BECAUSE THEY WERE THREE CASES WE ACTUALLY ONLY HAD ONE HEARING BUT HEARD ALL THREE AT THE SAME HEARING. THEY WERE THREE CHARGES APPLIED BUT AS ONE HEARING HEARD ALL THREE. THERE'S FLEXIBILITY THERE. AGAIN THE ACTUAL HARD COST REGARDING FILING FEES ARE ALL $50 OR LESS ON FOR THE ACTUAL POSTAGE AND FILING FEES.

THE REMAINING OF THE HARD COSTS ARE FOR THINGS LIKE A HEARING. HEARING COSTS.

>> SO YOUR RECOMMENDATION WAS ORIGINALLY TO GIVE HER MORE TIME OR THE PERSON MORE TIME?

>> THAT WAS HER REQUEST. >> AND SO WE FORWARDED HER REQUEST TO

>> MADAM MAYOR. >> YES. OVER SIX MONTHS AGO WHEN WE HAD THE HEARING, WE LISTENED TO ALL THREE HEARINGS AND REDUCED AND CHANGED THE ORIGINAL FINE.

PEGGY, THERE'S $250, I RECALL $250 AMOUNT ON EACH. >> SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IF IT

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WAS EVEN $50 PER CASE, THAT'S 150, THERE'S THREE OF THEM. AND THEN WE HAVE THE 250.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A TOTAL OF $400. $450 HAS BEEN PAID TO DATE.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT COMMISSIONER PERONA WAS SAYING. THAT WAS IN MY HEART TOO.

I NEEDED TO SEE THE ACTUAL NUMBERS AND TOTALS. I MAKE A MOTION TO WAIVE THE

REMAINING $300. >> SECOND. >> AND ALSO FOR DISCUSSION TOO.

IN LIGHT OF THE REASONS, FOR THE LIENS AND IT SOUNDS VERY MINISTERIAL IN NATURE GIVEN FLAT TIRES. COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER HAS POINTED THAT OUT TO US.

THAT MAKES ME WANT TO MOVE MORE TO WAIVE THAT. >> SO I CAN GET COMFORTABLE TO THIS. I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO TELL ME THEIR RECOMMENDATION, YOU HAVE HEARD THE MOTION. THE RECOMMENDATION IS DEALSES WITH THE HARD COSTS.

I WOULD LIKE YOU TO TELL ME YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT MOST OF THE HARD COSTS HAVE BEEN HANDLED AND THIS REALLY ARE JUST FEES AND THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENED BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE PENALTIES HAVE HAPPENED OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. TELL ME THESE AREN'T REALLY HARD, HARD COSTS SO THAT I CAN GET COMFORTABLE WITH THIS. OTHERWISE I CAN'T SUPPORT THE

MOTION. >> YES, COMMISSIONER, I AM COMFORTABLE.

>> THE ACTUAL HARD COSTS ARE COVERED AND -- >> I'M HAPPY.

THANK YOU. >> MADE YOU HAPPY. >> ARE WE READY TO VOTE?

>> SORRY GUYS. >> ALL RIGHT. >> LAESHG ALEXANDER.

, MERRY CHRISTMAS, YES. >> TAKE THATS JOHNSON.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA, YES, MA'AM.

>> XHERGZ COMMISSIONER WERGZ SES SESSIONS

>> YES, >> MAYOR HUDSON. >> YES.

>> I THINK THERE'S PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE ON THE COMMISSION AGENDA WHICH RELATES TO THE DATE FOR HARBOUR ISLE. MR. SWEENEY, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT WE WILL BE DOING SO THAT IF PEOPLE DON'T NEED TO STAY IF THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT, IF WE VOTE THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO

VOTE, WHAT WE WILL BE DOING. >> MADAM MAYOR, AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

RIGHT NOW THE ITEM IS TABLED. WE NEED TO BRING IT BACK FROM THE TABLE TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD IN WHATEVER DIRECTION THE COMMISSION DECIDES IT WANTS TO GO.

SO PROCEDURALLY, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TONIGHT AS IS SHOWN BY THE AGENDA ITEM IS IF IT'S THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION TO PULL IT BACK FROM THE TABLE. A WOULD BE MADE AND SET FOR JANUARY 6TH. THE MOTION WOULD PASS AND THE CITY CLERK WOULD RE-ADVERTISE

AND ANY AFFECTIVE ACTION WOULD HAPPEN ON JANUARY 6TH. >> WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING THIS

ITEM TONIGHT AT ALL IN TERMS OF SUBSTANCE OR -- >> BOTH MYSELF AND THE CITY

MANAGER AGREE. >> I JUST WANT THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE TO KNOW THAT MIGHT BE HERE FOR THIS, WE'RE GETTING READY TO HEAR A WHOLE BUNCH OF SECOND READINGS AND I DON'T WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE. YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY. THE SUBSTANCE OF HARBOUR ISLE

WILL NOT BE DISCUSSED. ONLY A DATE. >> OKAY.

[bb. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-072 - Text amendment to Chapter 21, Designating a No Wake Zone at Jaycee Park. FIRST READING]

SO NOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. ITEM 12 B B, IS ORDINANCE 19-07 TWO, ORDINANCE BY THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA AMENDING NO WAKE AND MINIMUM WAKE ZONES TO MODIFY LANGUAGE TO ALLOW FOR IDLE SPEED WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE JC PARK BOAT RAMPS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDE FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS THE FIRST READING.

>> OKAY. WELCOME, MR. MIMS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY?

>> GOOD EVENING. MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS. WE DO NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION.

THE PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE CAME BEFORE YOU WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR CREATING AN IDLE SPEED NO WAKE ZONE AT JC PARK. AT THAT TIME, THE PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE CREATED A DRAFT ORDINANCE. REVIEW BY LEGAL AND SUBMITTED TO FWC BEFORE REVIEW BEFORE BRINGING TO COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL.

THE DRAFT ORDINANCE SUBMITTED TO FWC CALLED FOR A CONNECTING OUT OF THE TWO AREAS OF SLOW SPEED

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ZONES FROM HOOK POINT TO FABER POINT. WE DO NOT MEET CRITERIA FOR THAT. THE ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY FWC AND MEETS

ALL OF THEIR CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL. >> ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE, YOU WANT TO GIVE US THE JIST OF THE ORDINANCE. >> TONIGHT WITH US IS THE CHAIR

PERSON, MS. CHARLENE DEER. >> WE WILL BRIEF YOU ON THE IN ORDERANCE.

>> GOOD EVENING. MADAM MAYOR AND STAFF. I WONDER IF WE COULD PUT UP THAT

ONE PHOTOGRAPH. IT'S GREAT TO HAVE AN ASSISTANT. >> IT'S GREAT TO HAVE PHOTOGRAPHS. I LIKE PICTURES. THEY ARE WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS.

AND THESE PICTURES REALLY TELL IT ALL. FWC AND THEREFORE THE STATE STATUTE ALLOWS FOR A 500 FOOT PROTECTION AREA AROUND ANY PUBLIC BOAT RAMP.

WE ALREADY HAVE AN EXISTING FWC ORDINANCE FOR THE SWIM AREA AND THEY ARE SUGGESTING THEY WOULD JUST AMEND THIS ORDINANCE FOR THE IDLE SPEED NO WAKE ZONE WITHIN 500 FEET.

YOU CAN SEE IN FRONT OF YOU, IT'S LIKE YOU PUT A PEN AND DRAW A CIRCLE AROUND IT.

THE THAT'S THE 500 FOOT AREA. THEY ALLOW US TO SQUARE THAT OFF TO PLACE SIGNS.

SO THIS IS THE CLOSE UP AND THEN MAYBE IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT ONE, WE COULD SEE THE ENTIRE AREA AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE REALLY ASKING FOR VERY LITTLE OF THE ENTIRE RIVER TO BE PROTECTED. THAT'S EXACTLY THE SAME CIRCLE AND SQUARE.

WE BACKED OFF. THERE IS LOTS AND LOTS OF WATER FOR EVERYONE TO ENJOY IN WHATEVER WAY THEY WOULD LIKE. WE ARE SIMPLY TRYING TO PROTECT THE BOAT RAMPS AND SWIM AREA.

>> THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN THE PARK. >> EXACTLY.

ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> A QUESTION. WE ULTIMATELY ENDED UP GETTING HERE AS A RESULT OF SOME COMPLAINTS REGARDING THE JET SKIS AND THEIR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE IN ANY AREA. NOW WITH THIS BEING PUT IN PLACE, IS THAT GOING TO IMPACT A PERSON UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND OPERATE THE JET SKIS

LIKE THEY WERE PRIOR TO THIS ORDINANCE? >> COMMISSIONER SESSIONS, I DO NOT BELIEVE IT WILL PREVENT ANY OPERATION. WHAT THEY WILL NEED TO DO IS GO OUT TO AN IDLE SPEED UNTIL THEY GET PAST THE CIRCLE AND GO ZOOMING ALL THEY WANT.

>> OKAY. >> AND THE RED DOTS WILL BE SIGNAGE SO THEY WILL BE ABLE TO

KNOW -- >> EXACTLY. THERE WILL BE SIGNS AT THE DOCK AND THEN THERE WILL BE SIGNS OUT IN THE WATER WAY TO SHOW THEM WHERE 500 FEET IS.

>> OKAY. SO ONCE THEY GET FAR ENOUGH OUT THERE, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO

OPERATE -- >> ABSOLUTELY. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> YES, SIR. >> WHO IS GOING TO BE POLICING THIS? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT AT LEAST FROM WHAT FWC HAS TOLD US. THEY HAVE BOATS AND OFFICERS IN THE AREA AND A NUMBER YOU CAN CALL. THE ISSUE IS, THERE'S NOT THAT MANY RESOURCES JUST LIKE CITY, POLICE DEPARTMENT, REALLY DOESN'T HAVE RESOURCES TO RUN A BOAT, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS A BOAT THAT'S OUT. SAME ISSUE.

BUT ALL OF THOSE WOULD BE AUTHORITIES TO POLICE IT. HOWEVER, FWC ASSURED US FROM SHORE, OUR LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT OR THE SHERIFFS OFFICE CAN CERTAINLY YOU KNOW TALK TO PEOPLE AT THE DOCKS OR AT THE SWIM AREA AND ASK THEM TO ABIDE BY THE RULES.

>> WITH THE SIGNAGE, WILL THERE BE A NUMBER? TELEPHONE NUMBER FOR THE PUBLIC

TO CALL? HOW WOULD THEY KNOW WHO TO CALL? >> I DON'T BELIEVE THE OFFICIAL SIGNS WHICH FWC REALLY CONTROLS HAS A PHONE NUMBER. BUT I'M NOT CERTAIN ABOUT THAT.

>> MADAM MAYOR. >> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER. THE SIGNAGE THAT IS APPROVED BY

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FWC WOULDN'T HAVE A LOCAL PHONE NUMBER ON IT TO CALL, BUT ANYONE THAT NEEDED ASSISTANCE COULD

CALL 911 AND THEY DISPATCHED. >> YES, SIR.

>> IN THE DISCUSSIONS AND TALKING ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE THAT'S PROPOSED HERE, ARE MOTORIZED VESSELS ALLOWED TO PULL UP TO THE AREA OF JC PARK WITHIN THE BOUNDARY ON ON TO THE

BEACH AT JC PARK? >> NO, SIR, THOSE PARTICULAR SIGNS HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR SOME TIME. NOT ALLOWING MOTORIZED VEHICLES TO USE THE BEACH AREA, THEY HAVE TO ANCHOR OUT NEXT TO THE BOAT DOCKS. AND THE BOAT DOCKS.

>> THEY HAVE ANCHOR OR TIE UP TO THE -- >> OR THE LAUNCHING DOCKS YES,

SIR. >> IN THE LAUNCHING DOCKS, THERE'S TWO RAMPS THERE.

IN THEORY TIE UP FIVE VESSELS BUT THERE'S KIND OF AN UNWRITTEN RULE WITHIN BOAT RAMPS, YOU DON'T LEAVE YOUR BOAT TIED UP FOR LONGER THAN THREE, FOUR MINUTES BEFORE YOU PARK YOUR VEHICLE AND GET OUT OF THE WAY FOR THE NEXT, YOU KNOW THE CURRENT ORDINANCE IS NOT WHERE THE DESIGNATED SWIM AREA IS TODAY. IT'S ONLY HALF OF JC PARK.

DELINEATED ON THE PICTURE HERE WITH THE SIDEWALK. I THINK WE LOOKED AT THAT IN OUR CONFERENCE AGENDA. IT WAS 180 FEET OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE THE ENTIRE BEACH WHICH IS 365 FEET DESIGNATED AS A SWIM AREA.

I'M CONCERNED AND HAD A NUMBER OF PHONE CALLS AND I BROUGHT IT UP LAST TIME TOO, FOLKS TYPICALLY WILL PUT THEIR VESSEL INTO THE WATER. WHETHER KAYAK, MOTORIZED.

NONMOTORIZED, BOAT, JET SKI AND PULL UP TO THE BEACH BECAUSE THEY ENJOY FAMILY TIME ON THE BEACH AT THE SAME TIME. BUT ARE WE SAYING IN THE RED AREA THAT'S NO WAKE ZONE.

ARE WE SAYING THAT'S ALSO NON-MOTORIZED ZONE IF IT WERE NOT COMING TO AND FROM THE BOAT

RAMP ITSELF? >> NO. ONLY WITH THE SWIM AREA WOULD BE NON-MOTORIZED. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SPEED WITH THIS PARTICULAR DIAGRAM.

>> I HAVE NOTICED BECAUSE THE SIGNS HAVE BEEN THERE TO PROTECT THAT NORTH OF THE BOAT RAMPS.

JET SKIS ARE ANCHORING OUT. THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO FAR TO ALLOW FOR SPACE FOR KAYAKS AND SAIL BOATS. PEOPLE PUT SAIL BOATS AND THEY'RE DOING THAT JUST FINE.

THEY WADE IN AND SEEM HAPPY WITH THAT. FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN.

>> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER PE ROANA. -- PERONA.

>> I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS. I COUNT THE ACTIVITIES THAT HAPPEN.

EVERY TIME I THINK OF ONE, THERE'S ALWAYS OTHERS I HAVEN'T THOUGHT OF.

THE SAFETY OF OUR BEACHES IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.

WHEN YOU HAVE MOTORIZED VEHICLES COMING IN AND OUT, KIDS SWIMMING AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY DON'T REALIZE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO STAY WITHIN A SPECIFIC AREA SO THE WAKE ZONE MAKES TOTAL SENSE.

I'M HAPPY THAT FWC WEIGHED IN BECAUSE THIS IS ALL ABOUT ENFORCEMENT AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE DOING EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE TO DO SO FOLKS CAN BRING THEIR FAMILIES THERE AND KNOW THERE'S SAFETY BEEN PUT IN PLACE AND SIGNAGE AND EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT.3 BUT, IT IS ONE ACTIVE PARK WITH EVERY TIME I THINK THAT I HAVE SEEN EVERYTHING, THEN I SEE THEM FLYING UP ON THE BOOTS 10 FEET OFF THE GROUND AND SURF BOARDS THAT PROPEL THEMSELVES.

YOU NAME IT, I THINK EVERY DAY THEY INVENT SOMETHING NEW THAT CAN BE LAUNCHED AT JC PARK.

>> HURT THEMSELVES WITH. >> WHEN YOU'RE OUR AGE, COMMISSIONER, WE HURT OURSELVES.

WHEN YOU'RE YOUNGER, THEY'RE INVINCIBLE. >> ANYWAY.

THAT'S A GOOD JOB ON THAT, I'M HAPPY WITH GETTING WHATEVER WE CAN AS FAR AS RESTRICTIONS GO.

IT MAKES TOTAL SENSE AND ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS I HAD DOWN THE LINE IS FOR THE JET SKIS AND STUFF, PEOPLE ON JET SKIS LOOK FOR THINGS TO DO ON THE JET SKIS.

IT'S JUST BORING RIDING IT AROUND. I THOUGHT SOME DAY, ONE OF COUNTY PARKS OR MOSQUITO CONTROL AREAS THEY MIGHT PUT BUOYS UP AND DRAW PEOPLE DOWN THERE AND LET THEM DO THEIR RUNNING AROUND. IT MAKES SENSE TO GET AWAY FROM THE ACTIVITY OF SWIMMERS AND SURFERS AND BOATERS AND FISHERMAN.

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>> WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION. >> MADAM MAYOR, WE SPOKE ABOUT PARK RANGERS.

HAVE WE PUT THAT TO BID? OR WHAT? >> NO MORE THOUGHT OF THAT? BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST THIS PARK. WE HAVE SEVERAL PARKS THAT WE HAVE INDIVIDUAL DESIGNATED TO CIRCLE AROUND TO THE PARKS AND PEOPLE KNOWING THAT THEY'RE DOING THIS, COMING BACK AND FORTH, I THINK IS SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO. FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY.

NOW I'M NOT TRYING TO ADD ANYTHING TO YOU -- BUT, I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.

WE DID SPEAK ABOUT SOME PARK SPECIAL RANGERS, RIGHT? >> I LOVE HOW Y'ALL TURN TO ME.

WHAT I CAN SAY, COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER, WE HAVE A FANTASTIC LOCAL VOLUNTEER GROUP.

YOU SEE ONE OF OUR AMAZING VOLUNTEERS BEFORE YOU. I DO BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF INCORPORATING SOME TYPE OF PARK RANGER VOLUNTEER PROGRAM.

BUT AGAIN THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT YOUNG MAN, MR. RIOS.

DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AS WE TRY TO LOOK AT HOW WE MONITOR AND SOME WAY POLICE OUR WORKS.

OUR CHIEF OF POLICE WILL BE INVOLVED. IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY

INVESTIGATE. IT'S NOT A >> OKAY.

COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> ONE LAST QUESTION. WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION-WE WERE GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THE COMMITTEE AND FWC ABOUT THE DEPTH OF THE WATER OUTSIDE OF THIS ZONE. THIS ZONE INCLUDES THE DEEPEST WATERS WITHIN THE AREA.

I KNOW FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AND THOUSANDS OF HOURS ON THE WATER THAT OUTSIDE OF THAT 500

FEET, IT'S VERY SHALLOW. DID WE TALK ABOUT THAT AT ALL? >> THE DEPTH CHARTS WERE INCLUDED IN OUR PACKAGE TO FWC. THAT WAS ONE OF REQUIREMENTS. SO, WE DID DISCUSS THAT BUT I

DON'T KNOW THAT ANY CONCLUSIONS WERE DRAWN FROM THAT. >> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, AT, WHEN WE HAD TO CIRCLE BACK, THE DEPTH CHART WAS MORE OF A DISCUSSION WHEN WE WERE LOOKING TO MAKE THE WHOLE ZONE FROM HOOD POINT. ONCE WE SCALED BACK TO THE 500 FEET RADIUS, THERE WAS NO FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THE DEPTH.

THE >> I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS, WHEN YOU PUSH BOATING TRAFFIC AND MARINE VESSELS OUT INTO SHALLOWER WATERS, THAT'S SOME OF OUR IMPORTANT SEA GRASS BEDS AND REMEMBER I TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST TIME.

OUTBOARD MOTORS BOTTOM OUT. IT'S A SEA GRASS AND MUCKY AREA THAT INCLUDES WILDLIFE AND HABITAT AND WE'RE PUSHING THEM INTO SHALLOWER WATERS. FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE I KNOW THAT HAPPENS, BECAUSE YOU CAN GO OUT AND ON A LOW TIDE DAY, DEPENDING ON WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE TIME OF YEAR, YOU HAVE TO TRIM THE MOTOR UP AND HAVE TO GO VERY SLOW.

SO IF YOU HAVE A CONDITION WHERE YOU'RE RUNNING ALONG AT A HIGHER SPEED AND YOUR BOAT MOTOR BOTTOMS OUT. THAT BECOMES AN ISSUE. THE PHYSICAL DAMAGE TO THE MARINE ENVIRONMENT NOT THE BOAT MOTOR ITSELF PER SE. SO --

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, AS LONG AS THEY STAY OUTSIDE THE SWIM AREA, THEY'RE WELCOME TO GO AS

LONG AS THEY'RE IDLE SPEED UNTIL THEY GET TO AND >> SURE.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> ONE MORE THING COMES TO MIND ECHOING WHAT COMMISSIONER PERONA TO FIND ANOTHER OPTION FOR PEOPLE THAT LIKE TO ENGAGE IN USING THESE JET SKIS, IT'S SORT OF LIKE THE MOTORCYCLES. THE MOTOR BIKES THAT WE DISCUSSED MEETING WITH THESE DIRT BIKES. IF WE CAN GIVE YOUNG PEOPLE ANOTHER OPTION TO GO AND USE THESE TYPE OF MOTORCYCLES AND JET SKI OPTIONS, IT CERTAINLY GIVES THEM COMING TO DO. IT POSES A THREAT TO THE SAFETY OF THE SWIMMERS.

BY THE SAME TOKEN. AT WHAT POINT DO WE PROVIDE AN OPTION FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE TO ENGAGE IN YOUTHFUL ACTIVITIES? WE WERE ALL YOUNG AT ONE POINT IN TIME.

WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT AND WE WANT TO KEEP OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ENGAGED AND DO IT LEGALLY IN THE

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RIGHT WAY. AGAIN THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO EXPLORE.

>> MADAM MAYOR AND COMMISSIONER SESSIONS. PREVIOUSLY, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER PERONA BROUGHT THIS UP. WE NEED TO PROVIDE OUTLETS FOR YOUNG FOLKS TO OPERATE THESE VESSELS WITHOUT RUNNING INTO SWIMMERS.

HOPEFULLY MR. RIOS AND VISCONTE WILL BRING THIS UP AND WE WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT AS PART OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND WHAT WE CAN OFFER. I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT. OF COURSE, WE HAVE NOT REACHED A DETERMINATION ON IT AS OF YET.

THE TREASURE COAST COMMISSION IS A PARTNER AND WE COULD HAVE A SLOLEM COURSE.

WE WANT TO BRING PEOPLE IN. IF WE PUT TOO MANY RESTRICTIONS ON, THEY WILL GO ELSEWHERE AND TAKE THEIR ACTIVITY AND TOURISM ELSEWHERE. WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH THIS AND AGAIN, I MEAN IT'S APPROPRIATE TO PROTECT THE SWIMMERS BUT, WE NEED TO FIGURE

OUT ANOTHER >> GREAT. >> YES.

GOOD POINT. MR. RIOS. IS THERE ANOTHER AREA IN THE CITY WHERE THESE ACTIVITIES CAN OCCUR, WELL, IS THERE ANOTHER EASILY-ACCESS POINT LIKE THE

BOAT RAMPS AT JAYCEE PARK? >> THE CITY-MAINTAINED PARK, THE ONLY OTHER PARK THAT WE UTILIZE THAT HAS ACCESS FOR AN ACTIVITY LIKE THAT WOULD BE AT CAUSEWAY PARK.

JUST OVER THE BRIDGE. NOW WHAT COULD BE LAUNCHED FROM 12 A BOAT RAMP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS A DIFFERENT STORY. AS FAR AS PARKS, WE HAVE JAYCEE PARK AND CAUSEWAY PARK ARE THE

TWO. >> CAUSEWAY PARK IS A MINIMUM WAKE ZONE BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE INLET. 12 A IS MINIMUM WAKE BECAUSE THAT'S COMING OFF THE CHANNELS

INTO THE INTERCOASTAL WATER WAYS. >> AND ALSO, WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK. YOU HAVE CAUSEWAY PARK AND JAYCEE PARK.

THE NEXT PLACE TO LAUNCH IS I THINK WHICH IS SIX MILES DOWN THE ROAD.

IF WE KNEW SOMEBODY FROM THE COUNTY, WE SHOULD ASK THEM ABOUT BEAR POINT TO TAKE AND OF THE LOAD AWAY. MIGHT BE EVEN MORE CONVENIENT TO LAUNCH YOUR MOTORIZED VEHICLE FROM THAT PARK THAN IT IS FROM JAYCEE PARK. IF WE KNEW SOMEBODY FROM THE

COUNTY. >> DO SOME INVESTIGATING. ANY OTHER?

>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. FORWARD- AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR US AND I THINK MS. COX WANTS YOU TO SIGN IN TOO.

>> TIME DOESN'T START UNTIL YOU FINISH SIGNING IN. >> I WRITE REALLY SLOW.

>> THAT'S FINE. >> YOU LOOK LIKE YOU MIGHT BE LEFT HANDED.

>> HELLO GOOD EVENING. MADAM MAYOR, THANKS FOR HAVING >> STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE

RECORD. >> JOSE RUIS. I KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

THE RECORD NEEDS TO KNOW WHO YOU ARE. >> I WANT TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE JET SKI RIDERS BECAUSE I AM ONE MYSELF. I AM AWARE WITH THE SAFETY AND PRECAUTIONS THAT COMES ALONG WITH RIDING. THE PROBLEM WITH THE PARK, I AM ALL FOR THE RESTRICTIONS OF THE SWIMMING AREA BUT I JUST THINK 500 FEET OF IDLE IS WAY TOO FAR.

PROBLEM IS ON A JET SKI, WHEN YOU RIDE, MOST OF THE TIME WE HAVE TRACTIONS WHERE YOU'RE PULLING A RAFT, YOU'RE WAKE BOARDING OR SKIING. IF YOU'RE OUT THERE WITH ANOTHER MATE AND FRIEND OF YOURS AND YOU GET STUCK. 500 FEET IS A LONG SWIM.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? FOR SAFETY I DON'T THINK IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE JET SKIER.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO SEEK FOR HELP? THE SWIM ZONE, THE PROBLEM IS WHEREVER YOU'RE OUT 500 FEET, YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE'S SAND BARS OUT THERE AND IT'S KIND OF HARD IF YOU'RE GOING 20 MILES PER HOUR. MORE POTENTIAL DEPTHS FOR US TO RIDE. WE RUN INTO SAND BARS ALL THE TIME.

WE'RE MORE PRECAUTIOUS BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN AROUND IT. IT GIVES US NO ROOM TO PLAY.

I WENT OFF CAUSEWAY COVE AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO OFF CAUSEWAY COVE.

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YOU IDLIZE OFF THE INLET AND DEPENDING ON WHAT TIME OF YEAR, THE MANATEE ZONE.

THIS IS LIKE THE ONLY AREA TO GO AND HAVE A GOOD TIME. WE GO OUT WITH FAMILY.

THERE'S A GRILL OUT THERE. WE SPEND TIME TOGETHER. AND BEING THAT FAR APART MAKES IT HARDER ESPECIALLY YOU GO OUT THERE WITH LIKE SIX PEOPLE. SO YOU HAVE TO IDLIZE IN AND OUT. IT'S SO INCONVENIENT. I THINK 500 FEET IS WAY TOO FAR FOR IDLIZE ZONE. IT'S A HUGE SWIMMING AREA IN ALL REALITY IT'S NOT THE CLEANEST WATER TO BE SWIMMING IN ANYWAYS. IT'S FUN TO BE OUT THERE WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS BECAUSE YOU CAN COOK OUT AND PLAY BASKETBALL. IT GIVES US YOUNGER FOLKS SOMETHING TO DO. THE BEST TIME TO BE IS IN THE BEACH AND THAT'S WHERE MOST FAMILIES GATHER. I FEEL LIKE JAYCEE PARK IS WHERE TO GO TO GET AWAY.

I'M JUST SPEAKING ON THAT BEHALF. I'M ALL FOR THE SAFETY

PRECAUTION, I FEEL LIKE 500 IS >> THANK YOU SIR.

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD. ANYBODY ELSE?

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A MORE STABILIZED METHOD. JET SKIS ARE A LITTLE MORE TIPSY.

WHEN YOU COME OFF ELEVATED PLATFORM ON TO A JET SKI, IT WOBBLES BACK AND FORTH AND IT'S MORE TROUBLE FOR A FAMILY MEMBER TO LOAD. I HAVE SPOKEN IT BEFORE.

I'M NOT SURE WE'RE DOING ENOUGH ON THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE AND ENOUGH DELINEATION FOR OUR EXISTING ORDINANCE FOR OUR SWIM AREA. TO SEE IF THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. HERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN OPTION TO IMPOSE ANOTHER OPTION AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE. THIS IS IMPORTANT AND I THANK YOU EACH AND EVERY MEMBER FOR LOOKING AT IT. IT TAKES TIME AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO PROTECT OUR PUBLIC.

WE GET E-MAILS FROM A WHILE IN THE SUMMERTIME. WE WERE GETTING THEM FROM MARINER BAY. I APPRECIATE IF SOMEBODY IS HERE FOR THAT INFORMATION.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR STORY AND WHY THIS IS COMING BEFORE US TODAY. I'M NOT SURE WE'RE EXPLORING ALL OPTIONS BEFORE IMPOSING ANOTHER RULE. THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS. WE HAVE A VESSEL THAT PORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS. NOT SURE IT GETS ON THE WATER MUCH.

HOW MUCH IS THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OUT THERE? HOW MUCH TIMES HAVE THEY BEEN CALLED. FWC, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE THEY BEEN CALLED? I SPOKE TO THE COAST GUARD AND SAID IT WAS RANDOM AND MINOR. I'M NOT READY TO IMPLEMENT RULES

UPON RULES WHEN WE HAVE ANOTHER OPTION. >> WHAT THE CURRENT LIMITATIONS

NOW? FOR THE SWIM AREA? >> THE SWIM AREA, WE WOULD HAVE TO PULL UP THE OLD ORDINANCE? THE EXISTING DESIGNATED SWIM BOUNDARIES.

>> YEAH. SUFFICE TO SAY LESS THAN 500 FEET.

>> WE WOULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT, IF THEY WOULD POLICE THEMSELVES. THE SKIERS AND EVEN ABOUT THE SAIL BOATS. YOU KNOW, IF THEY WOULD SELF POLICE THEMSELVES, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT. TALKING ABOUT IT. NOW WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING BEFORE SOME CHILD, SOME YOUNG MAN JUST GOT HIS ARM CHOPPED OFF.

I HAVE TO SAY IT LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE NEED TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THOSE BOAT PROPELLERS AND WHATEVER WHEN THEY RUN OVER YOU, IT DO HARM. WHATEVER HARM YOU WANT TO TAKE, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO TAKE IT, NOTHING BUT A BROKEN FINGER, IT STILL HURTS.

WE SHOULD NOT PUT OUR CHILDREN IN HARM'S WAY. AND AGAIN, IF THIS IS WHAT IT TAKES, IT DON'T HAVE TO BE A PERMANENT THING DOES IT? WE CAN PUT IT ON A TRIAL BASIS

CAN'T WE? >> I THINK ONCE WE ENACT THE ORDINANCE, WE WOULD HAVE TO COME

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BACK FOR A LANGUAGE CHANGE. >> IT WOULD HAVE, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE CHANGED BY ORDINANCE.

BUT -- >> I'M SAYING IF THE PUBLIC FEELS SAFE, WE CAN COME BACK AND RELEASE, RELAX SOME OF THIS RESTRICTION. THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT TONIGHT.

>> I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS ALSO IS WE'RE IN A TIME WHEN -- I MEAN THIS PAST SUMMER, WE HAD PEOPLE IN THE MEETING ALL THE TIME COMPLAINING ABOUT THE JET SKIS.

THE HOT RODDING AROUND. THE NOISE INTO THE NIGHT. EVERYBODY WAS ENJOYING THAT PART AND DOING AND THE JET SKIS WERE SEEMED TO BE THE MOST BOTHER SOME TO THE NEIGHBORS AND SWIMMERS AND THEN WE ALSO LEARNED THAT WE CAN'T TREAT ANY MOTORIZED CRAFT ANY DIFFERENTLY.

SO BOTHS AND EVERYTHING HAS TO BE TREATED THE SAME. COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT. YOU KNOW THE REASON WHY THE PARKS COMMITTEE TOOK ON THIS TASK IS NOT JUST BECAUSE THE PARKS COMMITTEE WAS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO DO. THIS WAS A BIG ISSUE TO US. I'VE GOTTEN SEVERAL COMPLAINTS.

I KNOW THIS COMMISSION TASKED YOU TO DO SOMETHING. WORK WITH FWC.

WE DIDN'T COME UP WITH THE 500 FEET AND EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT.

THIS THING CAME ABOUT FROM A POINT OF TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION ALL THE USES AT THE PARK, WHAT CAN WE DO TO SAFELY PUT SWIMMERS, NONMOTORIZED AND MOTORIZED VEHICLES IN THE SHORT SPACE RIGHT THERE? AT THE END OF THE DAY, HAVING

FWC WEIGH IN >> THE PARKS COMMITTEE WEIGH IN. THIS IS THEIR RECOMMENDATION.

WE HEARD FROM JET SKIERS OUT THERE AND THEY WOULD BE INCONVENIENCED AND RIGHTLY SO.

BUT IF WE OPEN THIS UP TO THE PUBLIC AND SAID THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS TODAY, IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN SWIMMING THERE OR YOU HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT LAUNCHING YOUR KAYAK OR CANOE OR YOUR FISHING BOAT, COME ON AND TALK, WE WOULD FILL THE CHAMBERS AND EVERYBODY WOULD BE UP TALKING ABOUT ALL THEIR DIFFERENT USES AND EVERYTHING WE NEED TO DO.

WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THAT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. WE HAVE GOTTEN TO A POINT IN TIME WHERE WE HAVE HAD OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WEIGH IN. I HAVE A FEELING THE ENFORCEMENT IS EASIER NOW THAN IT WAS BEFORE. WE DEVELOP A SAFE PARK FOR THE OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAS MULTIPLE USES. I HEARD A NEW ONE, IT IS THE SITE WHERE ST. LUCIE ARE SWIMMING OUT, GOD HELP THEM OUT. THAT'S NOT ME BY THE WAY.

BUT YEAH, YOU HAVE ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS HAPPENING THERE.

WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE PUTTING ENOUGH EMPHASIS ON SAFETY FOR ALL THESE THINGS TO COEXIST AND TO FIND A HAPPY EXPERIENCE AT JAYCEE PARK. I'M HAPPY WITH THE FINAL

PRODUCT. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. IF YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE PIE HERE, IT'S ONLY TO DO NORTH SECTION WHERE THE SWIMMERS ARE. AM I CORRECT? SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PIE, WHERE THE SWIMMERS ARE NOT, HOW DO WE RATIONALIZE OR JUSTIFY 500 FEET BECAUSE THERE ARE NOT ANY SWIMMERS ON THAT SIDE?

>> COMMISSIONER SESSION, MADAM MAYOR. THE STATE STATUTE MEASURE INTO THE BOAT RAMP AND MAKE THAT CIRCLE. 500 FEET IS THE DIAMETER AND WE HAD TO START FROM THE BOAT RAMPS TO USE THE STATE STATUTE. I THINK JUST SPEAKING WITH THEM A LITTLE BIT. THEY PROBABLY THINK OF DIFFERENT APPROACHES TO THE BOAT RAMP SO THEY WANT TO PROTECT IT FROM ALL SIDES. SO THOSE ARE MY WORDS NOT

THEIRS. >> MADAM MAYOR. >> YES, SIR.

>> YEAH, I'M JUST OVERLY SENSITIVE TO THE FACTS, WHEN WE HAD THE COMPLAINTS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT PUT OUT THE SIGNS AND ELECTRONIC BILLBOARDS OUT AND THE COMPLAINTS SUBSIDED AND

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CHANGED. FOLKS STARTING PAYING ATTENTION. WHETHER IT WAS A PUBLIC EDUCATION THING OR THEY STARTED PAYING ATTENTION BECAUSE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DID POST THOSE. I APPRECIATED THE EFFORTS THERE. IT CHANGED WHAT I REMEMBER.

WHAT I REMEMBER AS FAR AS THE COMPLAINT LOAD. THE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BALANCING THE LAND ACTIVITIES WITH THE WATER ACTIVITIES WITH THE SWIMMING ACTIVITIES. I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY MILES OF BEACH FRONT WE HAVE IN FORT PIERCE BUT WE HAVE A LOT. THAT'S A SWIM AREA. I JUST MEASURED ON GOOGLE MAPS CAUSEWAY COVE BEACH AND IT'S OVER .25 MILES. THAT'S OVER A QUARTER MILE LONG FOR ONE BEACH FOR SWIMMERS TO PARTAKE IN ACTIVITIES LIKE THAT. AND YOU CANNOT HAVE BOATING MARINE VESSEL ACTIVITIES IN THOSE AREAS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GO TO A BEACH WITH A JET SKI, YOU CAN'T GO WITH A BOAT, OR GO TO THE BEACH WITH A BOAT BECAUSE OF THE WAVE ACTIVITY.

I'M JUST STRUGGLING WITH THIS. I STRUGGLED WITH IT BEFORE WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT.

I STRUGGLE WITH IT NOW BECAUSE I KNOW THE ACTIVITIES OF MANY FAMILIES AND HOW THEY APPROACH THE BEACH AND HOW THEY INCORPORATE LAND ACTIVITY, PARK BEACH, SWIMMING AND THEN INTO VESSEL. THIS IS THE ONLY AREA IN FORT PIERCE.

THIS IS IT. THIS IS THE ONLY AREA. THIS IS IT.

WE ARE LIMITING IT NOW. WE HAVEN'T, I'M STILL STUCK ON >> MADAM MAYOR.

>> YES, SIR. ON THAT, I MEAN, I KNOW THIS IS KIND OF RIDICULOUS, BUT, SO AM I HEARING YOU RIGHT. MAYBE IF WE ELIMINATED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SWIM BEACH

THERE, WE WOULD SOLVE OUR PROBLEM? >> YOU JUST FLIPPED IT UPSIDE

DOWN. >> YES. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT ONE.

COMMISSIONER. >> NO. I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE A SWIM AREA. JUST LIKE THE KAYAK AND CANOE LAUNCH.

WE STARTED A PUBLIC EDUCATION PART AND THE DYNAMICS CHANGED. I REMEMBER IT BECAUSE I MADE

SURE I PAID ATTENTION. >> THIS IS A HISTORIC PARK. IT'S GOT MANY USES THAT HAVE -- IT'S JUST HAPPENED OVER TIME. YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE THIS SAFE THAT ALL THESE USES CAN BE DONE IN THE ONE SPOT. THERE ARE BETTER PLACES.

YOU CAN GO TO THE CAUSEWAY BEACH FOR SWIMMING. IT'S A GREAT PLACE.

YOU CAN LAUNCH YOUR VEHICLES, YOUR WATER VESSELS FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT PLACES WITHIN THE CITY. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THIS HAS A BIG ATTRACTION FOR SOME REASON.

THIS IS WHERE IT'S ALL HAPPENING. WE'RE HELD WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY TO DO AT LEAST WEIGH IN ON IT. WE HAD OUR PARKS COMMITTEE DO THEIR JOB AND HERE WE ARE. IF YOU WANT TO GO IN AND CHANGE ANY OF THAT, GOOD LUCK.

>> I ALSO, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN IT COMES AROUND TO SUMMERTIME AGAIN, THAT EDUCATION, YOU KNOW IT'S BEEN A WHOLE YEAR. IF I REMEMBER RIGHTLY, IN THE SUMMER MONTHS, IT BUILT UP AND BUILT UP. WE HAD LOTS OF COMPLAINTS AND CONCERNS AND THEN IT DIED DOWN BECAUSE EVERYBODY GOT BACK TO SEPTEMBER. BACK TO SCHOOL AND BACK TO WHATEVER. SO, I'M NOT SO SURE THIS TIME OF YEAR WE'RE NOT AS SENSITIVE

ABOUT THE DANGERS THAT ARE DURING THE SUMMERTIME. >> LET ME ASK SOMETHING.

ON A JET SKI, COMING IN, TO SHORE, IS IT POSSIBLE TO COME ASHORE ON THE JET SKI OR IS AN INDIVIDUAL GOING TO HAVE TO CUT THE JET SKI OFF 500 FEET AND COME IN? DOES THE VEHICLE HAVE THE ABILITY TO RIDE FROM 500 FEET TO THE SHORE OR ARE WE EXCLUDING

THE JET SKIER FROM RIDING THE VESSEL WITHIN THE 500 FEET? >> COMMISSIONER SESSIONS, MADAM MAYOR. NO WE'RE NOT EXCLUDING THEM. THIS IS JUST AN IDLE SPEED ZONE.

THEY WOULD BE PUTTING ALONG WITH NOT MAKING A BIG WAKE. >> RIGHT.

>> BUT THEY CAN COME IN AND OUT AND ALL AROUND THE SWIM AREAS AS LONGAS THEY JUST GO SLOWLY.

>> THAT'S THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE. I HAVE BEEN ON JET SKIS OUT THERE BEFORE. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. AND TO AND DEGREE, IT'S GOING TO

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CAUSE SOMEWHAT OF AN INCONVENIENCE BUT, FOR THE SAFETY OF EVERYBODY IN THE AREA AND THEN THE ACTIVITY, IF IT WASN'T A PARK THAT WASN'T AS BUSY AS IT HAS BEEN, PERHAPS ENFORCEMENT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE WOULD PROBABLY WORK. BUT JUST TO TAKE A RISK FOR AN INCONVENIENCE AS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING THAT MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE TOTALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF THE PROS ACTUALLY WITHOUT WEIGH THE CONS IN THIS SITUATION HERE.

BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO ACTUALLY EXCLUDE THEM FROM BEING ABLE TO RIDE UP SHORE.

THEY STILL WILL BE ABLE TO DO SO, BUT JUST AT A SLOWER SPEED. DOES IT MAKE SENSE?

>> ABSOLUTELY. EVERYBODY HAS TO GIVE UP SOMETHING.

REALLY IN A WAY TO MAKE EVERYBODY BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE PARK.

THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT IT. EVERYBODY HAS TO GIVE A LITTLE. >> TAKE FIVE MINUTES UNTIL OF 2:00. YOU WANT TO SCOOT THROUGH THERE, BUT YOU MAY HAVE A PERSON THAT'S LONG WINDED THAT DIVES AND MAY POP UP RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU. IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW IT'S NOT

WORTH THE CHANCE. >> AND WE ARE GOING TO LOOK, I THINK THE COMMISSION HAS EXPRESSED A DESIRE TO LOOK FOR ANOTHER PLACE WHERE SOME OTHER LOCATION WHERE THIS MIGHT BE

MORE FRIENDLY TO THE JET SKIERS, ESPECIALLY THE YOUNG JET SKIERS. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> I WILL MAKE THE LAST -- THE AREA IN QUESTION OR THE AREA THAT'S DEPICTED HERE ON THE PHOTO IS JUST THE, IT'S THE BEST USE AREA FOR THE ACTIVITIES AND THIS IS FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. IT'S DEEP WATER. IT'S NOT TEARING UP THE ENVIRONMENT. WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT SEA GRASS BEDS AND SHOALING OF THE OUTSIDE AREA BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING OUT HERE. THE DYNAMICS OF THE RIVER CHANGE. I CAN'T SUPPORT IT. I WANT TO ENFORCE MORE, I WANT TO DELINEATE WITH ADDITIONAL MEASURES, THE SWIM AREA, BUOYS DO A GOOD JOB.

THEY SHOW A ZONE BUT THE VESSEL THAT'S COMING IN TOWARDS THE SWIM AREA THAT IS ENCOMPASSED IN FLOATING ROPE SYSTEMS, THEY DON'T WANT TO BRING THEIR JET SKI OR VESSEL BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO GET TIED UP IN THE PROPELLED SYSTEM WHETHER IT'S A, YOU KNOW JET PROPULSION OR AN OUTBOARD MOTOR TYPE SYSTEM. THE GENTLEMEN SPOKE ABOUT THE 200 FEET WITH HIS FAMILY.

YOU KNOW BEING PULLED BEHIND ON A TUBE OR SKI OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

HE HAS A VALID POINT. THAT WHEN YOU GET OUTSIDE OF ZONE, IT'S JUST TOO SHALLOW.

I'M AFRAID WE'RE FORCING OUR BOATING TRAFFIC INTO SOMETHING THAT IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR FOR ACTIVITIES. AS YOU GET TO THE NORTH WHEN MARINER BAY IS BUILT. THE BOAT DOCKS CHANGE THE DYNAMICS OF THE ENTIRE AREA TOO.

BECAUSE IT PUSHED OUT AND YOU CAN SEE THAT DEEP BLUE WATER TO THE NORTH OF THE YELLOW CIRCLE.

THAT CHANGED THE BOATING TRAFFIC. YOU GET NORTH OF THAT.

YOU GET INTO SHOALED AREAS WHERE FISHERMAN LIKE TO GET IN THERE AND FISH IN FLATS.

TO THE SOUTH IS JENNINGS COVE, THAT'S A VERY NARROW CHANNEL WHERE THE RESIDENTS USE THAT FOR COMING IN AND OUT WITH THEIR VESSELS. AND THEN IT'S, YOU KNOW THE HOOK POINT AFTER THAT. SO, I THINK THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS.

I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS ONE. I'M JUST, I HAVE A LOT OF REASONS.

>> OKAY. AND MY UNDERSTANDING JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, IT CAN'T BE LESS

THAN 500 FEET. >> IF CANNOT AND PROTECT THE SWIM AREA THROUGH THE SAILING

CLUB. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA. WITH THAT, I MAKE A MOTION TO

APPROVE AS PRESENTED. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION? CALL THE >> JOHNSON.

NOME. >> PERONA, YES, SIR. >> SESSIONS, YES, MA'AM,

>> MAYOR HUDSON. YES, MA'AM. >> THANK YOU, PARKING COMMITTEE.

PARK COMMITTEE. THAT'S MY OTHER NEMESIS. DON'T TALK ABOUT PARKING.

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SORRY. OKAY THE NEXT WILL BE A SERIES OF ORDINANCES THAT ARE ALL SECOND READINGS, I WILL DO JUST AS I DID THE LAST TIME AND JUST READ THE ORDINANCE TITLE AND WE

WILL VOTE AFTER EACH ONE. >> SO FIRST WE HAVE 19-045. ORDINANCE EXTENDING THE

[a. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-045 extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 1810 Avenue Q in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING]

TERRITORIAL LIMITS TO INCLUDE 1810 AVENUE Q IN FORT PIERCE AND SHOWN ON EXHIBIT A.

DIRECTING THE PROPERTY APPRAISER TO ASSESS AND PLACE ON THE CITY TAX ROLES AS OF JANUARY 1, 2020.

TO COLLECT TAXES ON THE PROPERTY ESTABLISHING THE ZONING DESIGNATION AND LAND USE DESIGNATION DIRECTING FILING OF THE ORDINANCE WITH THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER OF SAINT LUCIE COUNTY AND IN CONFLICT WITH AND PROVIDING FOR AN

EFFECTIVE DATE. >> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. COME FORWARD. I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING AND

ENTERTAIN A >> MOTION TO >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND. FORECLOSURE

[b. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-046 extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 1908 Avenue Q in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING ]

[c. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-047 extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 1910 Avenue Q in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING ]

>> AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER OF SAINT LUCIE COUNTY AND PROVIDE FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHES TO ADDRESS THE

ISSUE, PLEASE COME >> MOVE FOR >> SECOND.

MOTION AND >> CALL ALEXANDER. >> YES.

>> YES. >> PERONA, YES, MA'AM. >> SESSIONS,

[d. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-048 extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 1706 Juanita Avenue in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING ]

>> HUDSON. YES, MA'AM. >> TO INCLUDE 1706 JUANITA AVENUE TO ASSESS SAID PROPERTY AND PLACE ON THE CITY TAX ROLE AS OF JANUARY 1, 2020.

DIRECTING THE ST. LUCIE TAX COLLECTOR. DIRECTING FILING WITH THE CIRCUIT COURT AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER WITH THE CHARTER BOUNDARY TO BE FILED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND COMMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC AND DEMOGRAPHIC RESEARCH PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES IN CAN

HAVE THE WITH. >> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. >> MOVE FOR

>> MOTION >> YES.

>> PRER OWNA. >> YES, MA'AM, >> SESSIONS,

[e. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-049 extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 2000 North 19th Street in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING ]

>> YES, MA'AM, HUDSON. >> 19-049, EXTENDING THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE TO INCLUDE 2019 HEAVY TO COLLECT TAXES ON THE HERE IN DESCRIBED PROPERTY AND ESTABLISH THE LAND USE AND DIRECT FILING WITH THE COURT OF THE CIRCLE COURT AND CHIEF

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ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY AND FILE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND COMMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC AND DEMOGRAPHIC RESEARCH, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES IN COLORFUL WITH AND PROVIDE FOR AN EFFECTIVE

DATE. >> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHES TO ADDRESS, COME

FORWARD. CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. >> MOTION AND

>> ALEXANDER, >> YES. >> JOHNSON, YES, MA'AM.

>> PERONA, YES, MA'AM. >> SESSIONS, YES, MA'AM, >> MAYOR HUDSON.

[f. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-050 extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 2000 Rosarita Avenue in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING]

YES. >> 19-050 TO INCLUDE 200 ROSE RITA AVENUE IN PORT PIERCE, DIRECTING THE PROPERTY APPRAISER TO PLACE ON THE CITY TAX ROLES AS OF JANUARY 1, 2020.

DIRECTING THE ST. LUCIE TAX COLLECTOR TO ESTABLISH THE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND DIRECT THE FILING OF THE ORDINANCE OF COURT WITH THE CIRCUIT COURT AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER, CHARTER BOUNDARY ARTICLE TO BE FILED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF DEMOGRAPHIC RESEARCH AND PROVIDE FOR SEVERE ABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS, COME FORWARD.

I'M CLOSING PUBLIC >> MOVE TO >>

>> MOTION >> >>

>> JOHNSON, >> YES, MA'AM. >>

>> >> SESSIONS. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> MAYOR HAUD HUDSON. , >> YES, MA'AM.

[g. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-051 extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 2004 Avienda Avenue in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING ]

>> 19-051. EXTENDING THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS OF THE CITY OF PORT PIERCE TO INCLUDE 2004 AVIENDA AVENUE TO PLACE ON THE CITY TAX ROLES AS OF JANUARY 1, 2020.

DIRECTING TO COLLECT TAXES ON THE HEREIN DESCRIBED PROPERTY. ESTABLISH LAND USE DESIGNATION.

DIRECT FILING WITH THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER AND ARTICLE TO BE FILED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF DEMOGRAPHIC RESEARCH AND PROVIDE FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND REPEAL ALL ORDINANCES IN

CONFLICT. >> MOVE TO PROVE. >> ALEXANDER,

>> YES. JOHNSON, YES, MA'AM. >> PERONA, YES.

[h. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-052 extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 2005 Avienda Avenue in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING ]

>> SESSIONS, YES, MA'AM, HUDSON. >> YES. >> TO ASSESS SAID PROPERTY AND PLACE ON THE CITY TAX ROLES TO DIRECT TO COLLECT TAXES ON THE HEREIN DESCRIBED PROPERTY.

DIRECT FILING WITH THE CIRCLE COURT AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER AND DIRECT REVISION OF THE ARTICLE TO BE FILED WITH DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF DEMOGRAPHIC. AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHES TO ADDRESS ISSUE, COME FORWARD.

I CLOSE PUBLIC >> >>

>> JOHNSON. >> YES, MA'AM. >> PERONA,

>> YES, MA'AM. >> SESSIONS, YES, MA'AM, HUDSON. >> YES, MA'AM.

[i. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-053 extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 2206 North 23rd Street in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING ]

ORDINANCE 19-053, ORDINANCE EXTENDING THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS OF CITY OF PORT PIERCE TO INCLUDE 2206 NORTH 23RD STREET IN PORT PIERCE AND SHOWN ON EXHIBIT A.

DIRECTING THE ST. LUCIE TAX COLLECTOR TO PLACE ON THE TAX ROLE AND COLLECT TAXES ON THE HERE IN DESCRIBED PROPERTY AND ESTABLISH THE LAND USE DESIGNATION DIRECTING FILING OF THE ORDINANCE WITH THE CLERK OF THE SESHGET COURT AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER TO BE FILED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICER OF ECONOMIC AND

DEMOGRAPHIC RESEARCH PROVIDING FOR SEVER ABILITY BECAUSE. >> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> MOTION AND >>

>> JOHNSON. >> YES, MA'AM. >> PRER OWNA,

>> PERONA, >> YES, MA'AM, SESSIONS, >> YES, MA'AM, HUDSON.

[j. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-054 extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 2213 North 19th Street in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING ]

>> 19-054, EXTEND TO INCLUDE 2213 NORTH 19TH STREET IN PORT PIERCE.

DIRECTING THE ST. LOUISE COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER TO PLACE ON THE CITY TAX ROLES.

DIRECTING THE ST. LUCIE TAX COLLECTOR TO COLLECT TAXES. ESTABLISH ZONING AND LAND USE

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AND FILE WITH THE CIRCUIT COURT AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER AND TO BE FILED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND SCHMIDT SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC RESEARCH.

REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT WITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE COME FORWARD.

CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. >> MOVE TO >>

>> ALEXANDER, >> YES. >> JOHNSON,

>> YES, MA'AM, >> PERONA, >> YES, MA'AM.

>> SESSIONS, YES, >> HUDSON. >> YES, MA'AM.

[k. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-055 extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 2305 North 19th Street in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING]

>> ORDNAN 19-NANTZ 19-055 TO INCLUDE 2305 NORTH 19TH STREET IN PORT PIERCE ON SHOWN ON EXHIBIT A DIRECTING THE PROPERTY APPRAISER TO ASSESS SAID PROPERTY AND PLACE ON THE TAX ROLES AS OF JAN 1, 2020.

AND DIRECTING TO O'CLOCK TAXES ESTABLISHING LAND USE AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER OF ST.

LUCIE COUNTY AND SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF LAND USE AND REPEALING ALL CONFLICTS.

>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. >> MOVE TO

>> ALEXANDER, >> YES. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, YES.

>> PERONA, >> YES, MA'AM, >> SESSIONS, YES, MA'AM,

>> MAYOR HUDSON. >> YES, MA'AM. >> I KNEW I SHOULD HAVE

[l. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-056 extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 2306 North 23rd Street in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING]

PRERECORDED THIS. >> ORDINANCE 19-056 AN ORDINANCE TO EXTEND THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS TO INCLUDE 2306 NORTH 23RD STREET IN PORT PIERCE FLORIDA AND SHOWN ON EXHIBIT A.

DIRECTING ST. LUCIE TAX COLLECTOR TO ESTABLISH THE ZONING DESIGNATION, ESTABLISHING THE LAND USE AND DIRECT FILING WITH THE COURT AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE ORDTO ARTICLE TO BE FILED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF DEMOGRAPHIC RESEARCH PROVIDE FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD.

SEEING NONE, CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. >> MOVE TO APPROVE.

>> SECOND. >> CALL THE >> JOHNSON.

YES, MA'AM. >> PERONA, >> YES, MA'AM.

>> SESSIONS, >>IA EM. >> MAYOR HUDSON.

>> YES, MA'AM. ORDINANCE 19-057, ORDINANCE EXTENDING THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS

[m. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-057 extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 3301 Avenue A. in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING ]

TO INCLUDE 3301 AVENUE A. DIRECTING THE ST. LUCIE TAX COLLECTOR TO COLLECT TAXES, ESTABLISH LAND USE AND DIRECTING THE OFFICER OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY AND DIRECTING AN ARTICLE TO BE FILED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF DEMOGRAPHIC RESEARCH.

PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT WITH.

>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> MOVE TO

>> JOHNSON. >> YES, MA'AM. >> PERONA,

>> YES, MA'AM. >> SESSION,S YES, MA'AM. >> HUDSON.

[n. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-058 extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 3240 South 25th Street in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING ]

19-058, EXTENDING THE LIMITS TO INCLUDE 3240 SOUTH 25TH STREET. PLACE ON CITY TAX ROLES.

DIRECTING THE ST. LUCIE TAX COLLECTOR TO COLLECT TAXES, ESTABLISH THE ZONING AND LAND USE, DIRECT FILING WITH THE CLERK. CIRCUIT COURT AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER AND CHARTER BOUNDARY ARTICLE TO BE FILED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF DEMOGRAPHIC RESEARCH. PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT WITH AND PROVIDING FOR

EFFECTIVE DATE. >> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHES TO ADDRESS.

COME FORWARD. >> CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

>> MOTION AND >> ALEXANDER, >> YES.

>> JOHNSON, >> YES, MA'AM, >> PERONA,

>> YES, MA'AM. >> SESSIONS, YES, >> MAYOR

>> YES, MA'AM. >> IT'S HALFWAY. YOU'RE DOING GOOD.

[o. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-059 extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 2409 Elizabeth Avenue in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING ]

ORDINANCE 19-059. TO INCLUDE 2409 ELIZABETH AVENUE IN PORT PIERCE, FLORIDA, ASSESS

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SAID PROPERTY AND PLACE ON TAX ROLES AS OF JANUARY 1, 2020. ESTABLISH ZONING AND LAND USE DESIGNATION. FILE WITH THE CLERK COURT AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE COURT AND FILED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF DEMOGRAPHIC RESEARCH PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT WITH AND PROVIDE FOR

EFFECTIVE DATE. >> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. PLEASE COME FORWARD.

SEEING NO ONE. I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. >> MOVE TO

>> >> CALL >>

>> >> JOHNSON, >> YES, MA'AM.

>> PERONA, YES, MA'AM, >> SESSIONS, YES, MA'AM, >> MAYOR HUDSON, YES, MA'AM.

[p. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-060 extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 3306 South 25th Street in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING ]

>> 19-060, ORDINANCE EXTENDING THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS OF THE CITY OF PORT PIERCE TO INCLUDE 3306 SOUTH 26TH STREET SHOWN ON EXHIBIT A. DIRECT TO ASSESS SAID PROPERTY AND PLACE ON THE CITY TAX ROLES AS OF JANUARY 1, 2020. DIRECTING THE ST. LUCIE TAX COLLECTOR TO COLLECT TAXES, ESTABLISH THE ZONING DESIGNATION, ESTABLISHING THE LAND USE DESIGNATION, DIRECTING FILING OF THE ORDINANCE WITH THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT.

FILED WITH DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC AND DEMOGRAPHIC RESEARCH. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, REPEALING CONFLICTS AND PROVIDE FOR AFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. COME FORWARD.

>> CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> ALEXANDER,

>> >> JOHNSON, >> YES, MA'AM.

>> PERONA, >> YES, MA'AM. >> SESSIONS, YES,

>> MAYOR HUDSON. >> YES, MA'AM. ORDINANCE 19-061.

[q. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-061 extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 3366 South 25th Street in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING]

EXTEND THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS TO INCLUDE 3366 SOUTH 25TH STREET IN PORT PIERCE AND SHOWN ON

EXHIBIT A. >> DIRECTING PROPERTY APPRAISER TO PLACE ON CITY TAX ROLES AS OF JANUARY 1, 2020. DIRECT THE TAX COLLECTORS TO COLLECT TAXES ON THE PROPERTY, ESTABLISH ZONING AND LAND USE DESIGNATION, DIRECTING FILING WITH THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT. THE ARTICLE TO BE FILED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND

SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF DEMOGRAPHIC RESEARCH. >> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE. COME FORWARD.

CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. >> MOVE TO >>

>> ALEXANDER, >> >> JOHNSON,

>> YES, MA'AM. >> PERONA, YEM, >> SESSIONS,

>> YES, >> HUDSON. >> YES.

[r. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-062 extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 3540 South 25th Street in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING ]

>> 19-062, EXTENDING THE LIMITS OF PORT PIERCE, FLORIDA TO INCLUDE 3540 SOUTH 25TH STREET AND SHOWN ON EXHIBIT A. DIRECTING PROPERTY APPRAISER TO ASSESS SAID PROPERTY.

DIRECTING THE TAX COLLECOR TO SELECT TAXES AND ESTABLISH THE LAND AND ZONING DESIGNATION.

DIRECT WITH THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT, DIRECTING REVISION OF THE CHARTER BOUNDARY ARTICLE TO BE FILED WITH DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC AND DEMOGRAPHIC RESEARCH PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDE FOR EFFECTIVE DATE. >> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO

>> JOHNSON. >> YES, MA'AM. >> PERONA,

>> YES, MA'AM. >> SESSIONS, >> YES, MA'AM,

>> HUDSON. >> YES, MA'AM. >> ORDINANCE 19-063.

[s. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-063 extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 3418 Sunrise Boulevard in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING ]

EXTEND THE LIMITS OF PORT PIERCE TO INCLUDE 3418 SUNRISE BOULEVARD IN FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA AND SHOWN ON EXHIBIT A TO ASSESS SAID PROPERTY AND PLACE ON THE TAX ROLES AS OF JANUARY 1, 2020. DIRECTING THE TAX COLLECTORS TO COLLECT TAXES ON THE DESCRIBED PROPERTY. STAND THE LAND USE AND FILE THE ORDINANCE WITH THE CLERK OF THE COURT AND THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER AND ARTICLE TO BE FILED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC AND DEMOGRAPHIC RESEARCH AND PROVIDE FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND REPEAL ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT WITH.

>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE COME FORWARD.

>> CLOSE PUBLIC >> MOTION >> JOHNSON.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> PERONA, >> YES, MA'AM.

>> SESSIONS, >> YES, >> HUDSON.

[t. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-064 extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 3335 Sunrise Boulevard in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING ]

>> YES, MA'AM. >> ORDINANCE 19-064. COLLECTING TO ASSESS SAID

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PROPERTY AND PLACE ON THE CITY TAX ROLES AS OF JANUARY 1, 2020. DIRECTING THE TAX COLLECTOR TO COLLECT TAXES ON THE HEREIN DESCRIBED PROPERTY. ESTABLISHING LAND USE.

DIRECT FILING WITH THE CIRCUIT COURT OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY. DIRECTING REVISION OF THE ARTICLE TO BE FILED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT WITH AND PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS, COME FORWARD.

CLOSE PUBLIC >> MOVE FOR >>

>> CALL >> JOHNSON. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> PERONA, >> YES, MA'AM. >> SESSIONS, YES,

[u. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-065 extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 3601 West Wilderness Drive in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING ]

HUDSON. >> YES, MA'AM. >> 16 17--- 19-065.

INCLUDE 6601 WEST WILDERNESS DRIVE IN FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA. DIRECTING THE ST. LUCIE TAX COLLECTOR TO COLLECT TAXES. DIRECTING FILING WITH THE CIRCLE COURT AND ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER. DIRECTING REVISION OF THE ARTICLE TO BE FILED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND SUBMITTED TO THE OFF OF ECONOMIC AND DEMOGRAPHIC RESEARC.

PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES IN PARTS IN CONFLICT WITH AND

PROVIDE FOR EFFECTIVE DATE. >> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. >> CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> MOVE TO >> MOTION >>

>> >> JOHNSON, >> YES, MA'AM.

[v. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-066 extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 1955 South Jenkins Road in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING ]

>> PERONA, YES, MA'AM, >> SESSIONS, YES, >> HUDSON.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> TO INCLUDE 1955 SOUTH JENKINS ROAD SHOWN ON EXHIBIT A.

DIRECTING APPRAISER TO APPRAISE SAID PROPERTY AND PLACE ON TAX ROLES.

DIRECTING THE TAX COLLECTOR TO COLLECT TAXES ON THE HERE IN DESCRIBED PROPERTY.

ESTABLISH THE LAND AND ZONING LAND USE DESIGNATION FILE WITH THE CIRCUIT COURT AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER. DIRECTING REVISION OF THE CHARTER BOUNDARY TO BE FILED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT WITH AND PROVIDE FOR EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, COME FORWARD.

>> CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. >> MOVE FOR >>

>> JOHNSON. >> YES, MA'AM. >> PER18A,

>> -- PERONA, >> YES, MA'AM, >> SESSIONS,

[w. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-067 extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 2250 South Jenkins Road in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING]

>> YES, MA'AM, HUDSON, YES, MA'AM. >> 19-07.

TO INCLUDE 2250 SOUTH JENKINS ROAD DIRECTING THE ASSESSOR TO ASSESS PROPERTY AND DIRECT THE TAX COLLECTOR TO COLLECT TAXES ON THE HEREIN DESCRIBED PROPERTY.

ESTABLISHING LAND USE. DIRECTING FILING OF THE ORDINANCE WITH THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT. DIRECT REVISION OF THE CHARTER BOUNDARY TO BE FILED WITH DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF DEMOGRAPHIC AND REPEAL ALL

ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT. >> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. PLEASE COME FORWARD.

[x. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-068 extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 2295 South Jenkins Road in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING ]

>> ALL YES. >> EXTEND FORT PIERCE TO INCLUDE 2295 SOUTH JENKINS ROAD IN 40 PIERCE, FLORIDA AND SHOWN ON EXHIBIT A. DIRECTING THE ST. LUCIE PROPERTY ASSESSOR TO ASSESS SAID PROPERTY AND PLACE ON THE TAX ROLES TO COLLECT TAXES ON THE HEREIN DESCRIBED PROPERTY. ESTABLISH ZONING AND LAND USE. DIRECTING FILING OF THE ORDINANCE WITH THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER.

DIRECT REVISION OF THE ARTICLE TO BE FILED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC AND DEMOGRAPHIC OFFICE AND PROVIDE FOR EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. >> MOTION AND >> ALEXANDER,

>> YES. >> JOHNSON. YES, MA'AM, PERONA, YES, MA'AM, SESSIONS, YES, MA'AM, MAYOR HUDSON. YES, MA'AM.

[y. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-069 extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 2675 McNeil Road in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING ]

[z. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-070 extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 4880 Edwards Road in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING ]

[aa. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 19-071 extending the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include 2402 Valencia Avenue in Fort Pierce, Florida. SECOND READING ]

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>> ORDINANCE 19-071. EXTENDING THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS OF FORT PIERCE TO INCLUDE 2402 VALENCIA AVENUE SHOWN TO EXHIBIT A. DIRECTING THE PROPERTY APPRAISER PLACE ON THE TAX ROLES AS OF JANUARY 1, 2020. DIRECTING THE TAX COLLECTOR TO COLLECT TAXES ESTABLISHING THE ZONING DESIGNATION AND LAND USE DESIGNATION, DIRECTING FILING OF THE ORDINANCE WITH THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER.

DIRECTING REVISION OF THE CHARTER BOUNDARY TO BE FILED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC AND DEMOGRAPHIC RESEARCH PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT AND PROVIDE FOR

EFFECTIVE DATE. >> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE

ISSUE, COME FORWARD. MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> MOTION AND

>> >> WELL >> THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA,

>> SESSIONS, >> YES, >> MAYOR

>> YES, MA'AM. GOOD JOB. [APPLAUSE]

GETTING THERE. >> OKAY. YOU ARE THERE.

YOU'RE A SPEED READER. OKAY. SO NEXT WE HAVE THE HARBOUR ISLE

[a. Harbour Isle Planned Development Ordinance 19-037 – This item requires a motion to remove the item from the table, properly advertise, and set for a legislative public hearing on January 6, 2020 for the second reading of Ordinance 19-037, pursuant to the motion on September 23, 2019. ]

PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. SET FOR 2020 FOR THE SECOND READING OF 19-037 PURSUANT TO

THE MOTION ON SEPTEMBER 23, 2019. >> MR. MIMS OR MR. SWEENEY, DO

YOU HAVE ANYTHING DO SAY? >> MADAM MAYOR, AT THIS TIME, THE PLANNED EVALUATION AND ANALYSIS THAT WE HAVE SCHEDULED TO BE DONE BY OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED. SO AT THIS TIME, WE WOULD SIMPLY ASK THAT WE TAKE THIS ITEM AND SCHEDULE IT FOR A DATE CERTAIN, WHICH WOULD BE JANUARY 6TH, 2020.

AT THAT TIME, WE WILL HAVE THE INFORMATION WITH A REPORT AND A PRESENT EGG TO THIS COMMISSION THAT WILL ASSIST YOU AND YOUR DETERMINATION OF THAT NEXT LEGISLATIVE HEARING.

>> THAK YOU SIR. >> COMMISSIONER PERONA. >> YES, MAYOR.

I MAKE A MOTION TAKE FROM THE TABLE ORDINANCE 19-037 REGARDING THE HARBOUR ISLE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND SET FOR JANUARY 6, 2020, AND DIRECT THE CLERK TO ADVERTISE THE ORDINANCE

AS APPROPRIATE AND REQUIRED. I MADE THAT UP. >> SECOND.

>> DID YOU TYPE THAT UP? >> I NEEDED HELP WITH THAT. HE NEEDED IT.

THE DAY AFTER >> I KNOW. I'M SORRY.

>> MOVE FROM THE TABLE. THERE WAS A SECOND. >> IS THERE AND DISCUSSION?

SHALL I, LET'S CALL >> JOHNSON. >> YES, MA'AM.

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>> PERONA, >> YEM. >> SESSIONS, YES, MA'AM,

>> MAYOR >> YES, MA'AM. >> GOOD JOB.

EVERYBODY IS DOING WELL TONIGHT. >> I'M IMPRESSED. THANK YOU.

PETE. IN ALL FAIRNESS. THE CITY CLERK WAS VERY HELPFUL.

>> YOU KNOW PERONA WAS TAKING IT OFF SOMEONE ELSE. >> OKAY.

[b. Resolution 19-R48 appointing Rebecca Shearer as the IRSC representative to the Sunrise Theatre Advisory Board Member]

SO NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION 19-R 48 OF THE CITY OF PORT PIERCE CERTIFYING THE APPOINTMENT TO THE SUNRISE THEATER ADVISORY BOARD AND PROVIDE FOR EFFECTIVE DATE.

THIS RESOLUTION IS RE-APPOINTING MS. REBECCA SHEARER AS THE IRSC. IT CAME STRAIGHT

RECOMMENDATION. >> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> AND THERE WAS A

COMMISSIONER >> >> CALL

>> JOHNSON. >> YES, MA'AM. >> PERONA,

>> YES, MA'AM. >> SESSIONS, >> YES, MA'AM,

>> MAYOR HUDSON. >> YES, MA'AM. NEXT IS THE SUBMITTAL OF

[c. Submittal of applications for the Historic Preservation Board]

APPLICATIONS FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD WHICH WILL COME TO YOU IN THE FORM OF AN

[d. Submission of applications for appointment to the Board of Adjustment.]

APPLICATION. WE HAVE APPLICATIONS FOR BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

WE ARE STILL SEEKING APPLICATIONS FOR THIS BOARD. WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY APPLICATIONS AS OPEN SEATS OF THIS TIME. BECAUSE YOU EACH GET TO APPOINT SOMEONE. IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE YOU WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT.

HAVE THEM GET THEIR APPLICATION IN. >> COMMISSIONER --

>> DID WE EVER LIST NAMES BEFORE? THAT SERVE ON THE BOARD?

>> THIS IS -- >> WE -- WE DISSOLVED THAT BOARD.

>> THERE ARE EXISTING BOARD MEMBERS. I HAVE NOT RECEIVED APPLICATIONS FOR ALL OF THEM. I HAVE SENT THEM AN INVITATION TO APPLY.

CAN WE HAVE THEIR NAMES? >> I DON'T HAVE THEM HANDY. I WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM.

>> YOU PROBABLY WANT TO SEEK OUT ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS. >> SEVERAL HAVE RE-APPLIED AND WE HAVE NEW APPLICATIONS AS WELL. SO MOVING ON WE HAVE AN

[e. Appointment of a Fort Pierce Commissioner to serve on the Treasure Coast Scenic Highway Committee as requested by Edward DeFini, Bicycle and Pedestrian Program Manager, St. Lucie Transportation Planning Organization. The committee meets four (4) times per year on Fridays at 10:00 am at the TPO offices in Port St. Lucie.]

APPOINTMENT OF PORT PIERCE COMMISSIONER OR THE MAYER TO SERVE ON THE TREASURE COAST SCENIC HIGHWAY COMMITTEE AS REQUESTED BY EDWARD DEFINI FOR THE --

>> MOVE FOR TOM PERONA. >> IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND NOT IT.

>> WAIT A MINUTE. IT DID HAVE HIS NAME WRITTEN ALL OVER IT.

I THOUGHT WE HAD IT LIKE THAT. COMMISSIONER, I THOUGHT WE HANDLED IT LIKE THAT.

>> NO WE DIDN'T. NO WE DID NOT. YOU KNOW CATCH EACH OTHER LIKE

THAT. >> IT MEETS FOUR TIMES A YEAR. >> ONLY FOUR TIMES A YEAR.

ON FRIDAY MORNINGS AT 10 AIM. IF THAT HELPS. DID WE GET A

>> YES. >> I THOUGHT SO. >> IT'S UP FOR DISCUSSION.

>> YEAH. THIS IS TRANSPORTATION. THIS IS A RAILROAD IS WHAT IT IS. RAILROADS ARE INCLUDED IN TRANSPORTATION.

>> I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. DON'T YOU THINK IT SHOULD BE SOMEBODY ON THE

>> NOPE. NOT NECESSARILY. >> YOU HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT

THIS MAYOR. >> I DID ASK CLARIFICATION. YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO BE ON THE

TPO. >> YOU'RE ALL AGAINST ME. I TOLD HER.

I ASKED HER IF YOU WERE REQUIRED TO BE ON THE TPO. >> WE'RE IN DISCUSSION.

I THOUGHT I OWED YOU ONE. I WILL BE HAPPY TO SERVE. >> OKAY.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. YES.

FROM THE GALLERY. >> OKAY. SHALL I CALL THE ROLE?

>> JOHNSON. >> YES. >> PORE OWN PEROWN -- PERONA,

>> YES, >> SESSIONS, >> YES, MA'AM.

>> MAYOR HUDSON. YES, MA'AM. >> WE APPRECIATE YOUR

WILLINGNESS. >> I WANT YOU TO KNOW YOU'RE SENDING ME THERE SO I'M GOING TO

MAKE SURE THAT YOU MAY REGRET THAT. >> THE NEXT ITEM IS ESTABLISH

[f. Establish the composition of the evaluation committee for RFP No. 2020-004 - Animal Shelter Services.]

THE COMPOSITION OF THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE FOR RPF 2020-004 THE ANIMAL SHELTER

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SERVICES. >> MR. MIMS. >> YES, MA'AM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAVE MOVED FORWARD WITH THE ADVERTISEMENT FOR REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR THE OPERATION OF OUR CURRENT ANIMAL SHELTER FACILITY. AS LOCATED AT SAVANNAH ROAD WITH OUR RECENT POSSESSION OF THAT FACILITY. AT THE TIME THAT WE MOVED FORWARD. ONE OF THE ISSUES WAS THE COMPOSITION OF THE COMMITTEE.

ONE OF OUR COMMISSIONERS OF NOT IN ATTENDANCE AND WE DID NOT HAVE A FULL DISCUSSION ABOUT THE PARTICULAR ITEM. AT THIS TIME, WE BRING THIS BACK.

IF YOU NEED A REFRESHER ABOUT THE RFP. MS. PEGGY REYES IS HERE.

OTHERWISE THIS IS ABOUT YOUR DISCUSSION AND DETERMINATION WILL SERVE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> SO, AS I REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION, AND YOU HAVE THE CHOICES UP HERE. WE CAN CHOOSE ONE OF THREE AND OUR STANDARD FOR THE RFPS IS TO HAVE EVALUATION COMMITTEE OF THE STAFF OR SOME STAFF MEMBERS AND WE HAVE GONE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY STAFF ON OCCASION. AND THE ONLY TIME I REMEMBER US NOT DOING THIS IS WHEN WE WERE

THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE FOR THE AUTOBAHN. >> YES, MA'AM.

I THINK ANOTHER THING THAT WE NEED, THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE WE DISCUSSED THIS BECAUSE AT LEAST FROM WHAT I'M READING IN THE NEWSPAPER, PORT ST. LUCIE IS TRYING OUT A PARTNERSHIP WITH

THE ANIMAL SHELTER >> PORT ST. LUCIE IS STILL HONORING THE CONTRACT AND THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WE HAVE. THEY CAN BE INCLUDED. I KNOW THEY'RE IN THE PRELIMINARY STAGES OF INVESTIGATING WHETHER THEY SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE HUMANE SOCIETY. THEY ARE LOOKING AT ALL OPTIONS. I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED

THEM. >> I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER IF YOU DID BEFORE.

>> AT THE TIME I WASN'T SURE SO I PUT ST. LUCIE COUNTY. IT CAN INCLUDE PORT ST. LUCIE, WE ARE UNCERTAIN WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO GO BUT THEY ARE INVESTIGATING.

>> SO FRAMING THE DISCUSSION THAT WAY. I WILL ENTERTAIN DISCUSSION FROM

THE COMMISSION. >> MADAM MAYOR. >> PEGGY, IF WE WERE TO SELECT OPTION TWO, YOU'RE CONFIDENT THAT THE COUNTY AND PORT ST. LUCIE HAVE PEERS FOR YOU TO

CONSULT WITH DURING THE >> OH, YES, SIR. YES, SIR.

>> YOU HAVE BEEN THEM >> RIGHT.

>> OKAY. I THINK MADAM MAYOR. >> I LIKE OPTION ONE OR TWO.

I THINK OPTION TWO GIVES US A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE YOU HAVE PROFESSIONALS IN THE INDUSTRIES THAT MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT LENS THEY CAN PROVIDE OPTIONS AND COMMENTS WE MIGHT READ AND HAVE A NEW FACT PRESENTED TO US WHEN IT COMES BACK TO US.

>> BUT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT. IT WILL COME TO US.

>> IT WILL COME BACK. >> WE WILL HAVE THE EVENTUAL DECISIONMAKING.

I LIKE OPTION TWO ALSO. >> MADAM MAYOR, I LIKE OPTION TWO BECAUSE WE REPRESENT THE WHOLE COUNTY EVEN THOUGH WE COMPRISE OF THE CITY. WE REPRESENT THE WHOLE COUNTY.

WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS IN PORT ST. LUCIE, THEY ARE GOING TO WANT US TO STAND IN THE GAP.

>> I WILL GO WITH TWO. >> COMMISSIONER SESSION. >> THE ONLY REASON YOU LEFT OUT

PORT ST. LUCIE IS WHAT EXACTLY? >> BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NOTHING OTHER THAN WHAT WE, I

GUESS READING. >> THIS MAY EVEN PERSUADE THEM TO EVEN LEAN MORE TOWARDS THAT.

WHAT WE'RE READING. BUT I MEAN DON'T YOU THINK WE NEED TO AT LEAST HAVE THAT

INVITATION AND OPPORTUNITY? >> YES , I DO. >> YES , I DO.

THEY WOULD BE WELCOME. AS I -- AS MAYOR AND ONE OF THE FIVE, I WOULD WELCOME PORT ST.

LUCIE MYSELF. >> NUMBER TWO THEN. >> I WILL CHANGE IT REAL QUICK.

>> I CAN GO BACK AND CHANGE IT REAL QUICK. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T

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EXCLUDE THEM. >> THEY MADE IT CLEAR DURING THEIR COUNCIL MEETING, THEY WILL

HONOR THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT ALREADY SIGNED. >> OKAY.

COMMISSIONER PERONA. >> I GUESS I'M JUST ODD MAN OUT ALL THE TIME.

I REALLY WAS HOPING FOR OPTION THREE. BUT I WAITED TO LISTEN TO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT HERE AND YOUR POINTS AND YOUR POINTS ARE WELL TAKEN.

BUT THE ONLY WAY OPTION THREE WOULD WORK IS IF THE CITY COMMISSION WAS ALL IN AND COMMITTED TO JUST DOING THAT. IT WOULD BE A LOT MORE WORK THAN JUST REVIEWING SOME INFORMATION.

I KNOW STAFF HAS GOTTEN INTIMATE WITH THE DETAILS. STAFF WOULD BE INVOLVED WITH THAT DECISION PROCESS. MAKES IT DIFFICULT SOMETIMES FOR US, WE ARE VOTING ON ISSUES WHEN IT COMES TO THIS RFP. THERE ARE TIMES WE CAN'T MEET WITHOUT BEING IN PUBLIC MEETING.

AND THAT SOMETIMES CREATES AN ISSUE. MAY GET US TO A POINT WHERE WE NEVER GET THIS COMPLETED. WITH AUTOBAHN, IT WAS CUMBERSOME.

I UNDERSTAND THAT MAY BE FAR FETCHING FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS A LITTLE MORE INTIMATE THAN READING STAFF REPORT AND GOING THROUGH THAT.

SO, HAVING SAID THAT, ONCE STAFF HAS STAFF AND THE COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES HAVE COME UP WITH, STAY OPTION TWO, WE STILL HAVE ABSOLUTE CONTROL OVER THE FINAL VOTE? WE CAN THROW IT ALL OFF AND TAKE BEHIND DOOR NUMBER THREE WANT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> OKAY. I MEAN WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE INVOLVED AS DEEPLY AS WE ALL INDIVIDUALLY WANT TO BE AND COLLECTIVELY MAKE A DECISION

WHEN IT'S ALL OVER WITH. I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THAT. >> THAT'S THE REASON WHY I CHOSE NOT TO GO WITH THREE BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, YOU CAN COME BACK WITH THE RECOMMENDATION AND WE SAY WE DON'T WANT ANY OF THEM. WE HAVE DONE THAT BEFORE. SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I AM MORE GEARED TOWARDS A LITTLE HOMEWORK LEG WORK DONE BY STAFF AND THEN WE MAKE THE ULTIMATE DECISION. ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. YEAH.

>> YES, SIR. I MAKE A MOTION WE ESTABLISH A EVALUATION COMMITTEE FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER RFP. FIVE MEMBERS. THREE FROM FORT PIERCE.

ONE FROM ST. LUCIE COUNTY. >> I WILL SECOND THAT WITH DISCUSSION.

>> MADAM MAYOR, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WHILE THEY'RE HAVING THEIR DISCUSSION THAT MAY BE WE CAN

HAVE A CONFERENCE, IS THAT A CONFERENCE AGENDA ITEM? >> MR. MIMS.

>> I BELIEVE AS WE GO THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS, WE FOLLOW ALL RULES WITH REGARD TO PURCHASING AND THE EVALUATION OF THESE PROPOSALS. SO, IT WOULD BE VERY I GUESS, WE WOULD CIRCUMVENT THE PROCESS. WHILE THEY EVALUATE HAVE A PRESENTATION TO THE CITY COMMISSION. I BELIEVE WE NEED TO COMPLETE THE EVALUATION OF THEIR PROPOSALS THAT ARE RECEIVED AND THEN COME TO YOU WITH A RANKING AND RATING OF THE PROPOSALS

RECEIVED FOR YOU TO MAKE YOUR ULTIMATE DECISION. >> THEN MAYBE WE CAN HAVE A

CONFERENCE THEN? BEFORE WE HAVE THE VOTE? >> CONCURRENTLY, I BELIEVE WOULD POSE A PROBLEM. IF WE DO THE STAFF LEG WORK AND BRING IT TO YOU, ABSOLUTELY WE

CAN DO THAT. >> BUT I'M JUST THINKING, MAYBE A CONFERENCE BEFORE WE CONVENE ON OUR DECISION AND YOU KNOW, THEN WE HAVE A BETTER VISION OF WHAT WOULD BE SAID.

>> PERHAPS YOU CAN DO, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS ALLOWED. DO LIKE YOU DO WITH THE BUDGET.

YOU MEET WITH EACH ONE OF US INDIVIDUALLY AND MAKE US REALLY ACQUAINTED WITH WHAT IS IN THE BUDGET. HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER?

>> SOUNDS GOOD. >> NOT A PROBLEM. HAPPY TO DO THAT TOO.

>> COMMISSIONER PERONA. THE OTHER COMPONENT IS TO MAKE SURE WE INVOLVE THE PUBLIC AND ALL OUR PARTNERS WITH SOME OF THE PROCESS TO BECAUSE I'M SURE THEY HAVE VALUABLE INFORMATION THEY WOULD LIKE TO WEIGH IN FROM TIME TO TIME. I JUST DON'T WANT TO JUST AUTOMATICALLY UNVEIL THIS ONE DAY AND MAKE A DECISION. I WOULD LIKE THE PROCESS TO BE

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IDENTIFIED. WE HAVE MAYBE SOME NOTES. SOME GENERAL IDEA WHAT IS GOING ON SO WE CAN ALSO HAVE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC SO THEY CAN WEIGH IN ON THOSE DECISIONS ALSO.

>> I BELIEVE THE MEETINGS ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. >> MADAM MAYOR.

>> NO, NOT LIKE THIS. >> MADAM MAYOR. YES.

MR. REYES IS CORRECT. ANYTHING RELATED TO PROCUREMENT. IT'S GOING TO BE FIVE INDIVIDUALS THREE OF WHICH ASSUMING THE MOTION PASS SAYS ARE PORT PIERCE CITY EMPLOYEES FROM ONE PORT ST. LUCIE AND SAINT LUCIE COUNTY AND THAT WILL BE PUBLIC.

INCLUDING THEIR DELIBERATIONS. IT'S NOT WELL PUBLICIZED. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IN THIS CHAMBER I'M GUESSING. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT WOULD BE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE INFORMATION. THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO ALMOST ANY RFP PROCESS.

THAT WE USE. IT'S MAYBE JUST THE DISEMANATION OF THE INFORMATION THAT NEEDS TO

FOLLOW SHORTLY THEREAFTER. THAT'S ALL. >> YES, SIR.

MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT ON THIS. AND I GUESS IN MY EXPERIENCE, I RECOMMEND IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU ACCEPTED THE RFPS AND NEED PRESENTATION. YOU ASK THE APPLICANTS TO DO A PRESE PRESENTATION AND TELL YOU THE CMMITTEE WHY THEY SHOULD BE SELECTED. IN ADDITION TO THE POINTS SCORING, HAVE A PHYSICAL PRESENTATION. WE DID THAT WITH THE AUTOBAHN. THEY MIGHT ELECT TO DO THAT.

>> WE CAN DEFINITELY HAVE PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS AS A PART OF THE RESPONSE.

BUT IT WOULD BE FOR THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE. AND THE PUBLIC TO ATTEND.

YOU ALL COULD ATTEND FOR YOUR OWN BENEFIT AND INFORMATION. BUT IT WOULD BE FOR THE

EVALUATION COMMITTEE. >> AND THERE WOULD BE COMMENT

>> THAT'S >> YEP. THAT'S AN OPTION.

>> I ASSUME WHEN YOU SAID WE'RE GOING TO DO THESE THING, >> I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO PEGGY RIGHT NOW. I BELIEVE THE BIDS WOULD BE OPEN.

>> THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO DRAW THE LINE. >> YES, SIR.

WE SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD BE TELLING YOU -- >> THERE YOU GO.

>> YOU TELL ME. >> WHEN IS THE RFP CLOSED? >> WE DID THAT.

>> WE HAVE DONE THAT. >> I BELIEVE IT'S DECEMBER 12TH. SO IT CLOSES DECEMBER 12TH.

>> I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS YEAR THEN. >> I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT YOU WILL GET A RECOMMENDATION THIS YEAR. NO, SIR.

>> WELL, FIRST OF THE YEAR. >> MORE THAN LIKELY WILL BE IN JANUARY.

YES, SIR. >> WE CAN'T COME FROM THE ANIMALS THAT'S FOR SURE.

>> SO THE ANIMALS ARE IN CARE, SIR. >> OKAY.

>> ARE WE READY TO >> CALL >> JOHNSON.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> PRER OWNA, -- PERONA, YES, MA'AM.

[14. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>> SESSIONS, JA YES, MA'AM. >> YES, MA'AM, MAYOR HUDSON. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> NEXT COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

IF YOU WILL SIGN IN AND YOUR TIME DOESN'T START UNTIL YOU SIGN IN AND START TALKING.

>> ALL RIGHT. I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE THINKING. YOU ARE VERY WELCOME HERE.

YOU SAT HERE ALL NIGHT LONG. SO. >> OKAY.

FOR THE RECORD. THIS IS LUKA FONTANE BRADLEY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, CITY COMMISSIONERS. I'M HERE BEFORE YOU WITH THE HIBISCUS PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.

MOST OF THE CRIME WATCH AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WE PRESENT THIS TO YOU.

WE BELIEVE THAT THE CELEBRATION OF CHRISTMAS IN OUR COMMUNITY IS VERY IMPORTANT.

AND THAT THE CITY DISPLAY OF LIGHTS AND DECORATIONS CONTRIBUTE GREATLY TO THE SPIRIT F THE CELEBRATION. WE'RE OFTEN REMINDED OF THE FINANCIAL STRESSES THE CITY HAS BEEN ENDURING AND THE FINANCIAL CHOICES THE CITY MUST MAKE EACH DAY.

WE ARE DONATING A DOLLAR AMOUNT TO THE CITY TO HELP DEFRAY THE COSTS RELATED TO THE DISPLAY OF

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THE CITY CHRISTMAS LIGHTS AND DECORATIONS. MADAM MAYOR AND CITY COMMISSIONERS, WE APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP AND THE ATTEMPTS AND EFFORTS TOWARDS BEAUTIFICATION OF FORT PIERCE. THE CRIME WATCH AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TAKES AN ACTIVE ROLL IN. THANK YOU AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL OF YOU.