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THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING OF MONDAY MAY 11TH.
PLEASE RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
FRIENDLY REMINDER PLEASE SILENCE YOUR WIRELESS DEVISES.
LET'S CALL THE ROLE. >> MS. CLEMONS?
[4. CONSIDERATION OF ABSENCES]
M WIDING. MR. WED WARDS?CHAIR KREISL? >> DID MR. WIDING HAVE A
REASONABLE EXCUSE FOR TODAY? >> YES, I DID.
OKAY TO MOVE ON WE DO HAVE A NEW MEMBER JOINING THE BOARD TODAY. MS. STOREY WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE PUBLIC.
I MISSED LAST MONTH. I HAD BEEN PLANNING TRAVEL FOR SIX MONTHS WITH MY SON SO THAT'S WHERE I WAS.
ANYWAY. I HAVE SPENT ABOUT 40 YEARS AS A GOVERNMENT ATTORNEY AND I'M SEMI-RETIRED NOW AND THIS IS MY FIRST FORAY IN. I SERVED THE LAST PLACE I WORKED WAS MARTIN COUNTY. AND I REPRESENTED THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DOWN THERE.
I WORKED IN MARTIN COUNTY. I'VE LIVED IN ST. LOUISE COUNTY A COUPLE STINTS FIRST FROM 1984 TO '91.
THEN CAME BACK IN 1998 AND HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. IN THE UNINCORPORATED ERA BEFORE THAT. SO ANYWAY, I'M HAPPY TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE. HOPEFULLY I'LL BE ABLE TO
THANK YOU FOR COMING ABOARD. WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS. WE ARE WITH THE MINUTES A CHANCE TO READ THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST-- OH WELL THAT'S GOING TO COME AFTER, RIGHT? OH THAT IS CORRECT.
VICE CHAIR CLEMONS HAS REMINDED ME WE DO HAVE AN AGENDA ADJUSTMENT FOR TODAY. DO WE NEED A MORE OFFICIAL MOTION FOR THIS? SO CURRENTLY IN THE AGENDA IS ITEM 7A VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION HOWEVER WE NEED TO MOVE THAT TO BE PRIOR TOA BECAUSE WE CANNOT MOVE TO DO THAT AND LAND USE AMENDMENT FOR SOMETHING THAT IS NOT IN THE CITY.
SO I HEAR A MOTION? >> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF
ALL RIGHT TO MOTION TO AMEND THE AGENDA.
PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. >> MS. STOREY.
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MR. JOHNSON. CHAIR KREISL.>> ALL RIGHT, NOW WE MOVE ONTO ITEM FIVE.
I HOPE YOU ALL READ THE MINUTES FROM LAST MONTH'S MEETING.
ANY DISCUSSION. HEARING NONE? WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.
>> MR. JOHNSON. MS. CARTER? MR. EDWARDS. MS. CLEMONS.
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>> ALL RIGHT. MOVING ONTO NEW BUSINESS.
SO THIS IS OUR ADJUSTED AGENDA ITEM 7 AL A.
VLUNTARY ANNEXATION. >> THANK YOU CHAIR.
YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THREE ITEMS TODAY.
THEY ALL RELATE TO THE SAME PROPERTY OR PROPERTIES.
THEY ARE ALL GOING TO BE CONSIDERED IN ORDER.
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TO FACILITATE THE CORRECT ADOPTION ORDER.THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ANNEXATION.
AND A FUTURE LAND USE CHANGE AND A ZONING ATLAS MAP CHANGE.
SO I'M GOING TO-- THESE NEED TO BE SEPARATE ORDINANCES.
AND THEY ARE ALL GOING TO BE SEPARATE DETERMINATIONS.
SO VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION. IT'S LOCATED OFF OF SELVITZ AND GLACE-- ROAD. TWO PARCELS.
A COUNTY AT THE MOMENT OF INDUSTRIAL AND A COUNTY ZONING OF HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. UNINCORPORATED LOTS.
THEY-- THE ENCLAVE PREVENTION. AND YOU CAN SEE IN ESSENCE, IT'S IN ITSELF AN ENCLAVE. SEMI.
AND IT'S IN AN AREA WHICH IS CONTINUOUS TO THE MUNICIPAL BOUNDARY. SO IT'S A RAILROAD FROM GLADES GOODOFF ROAD. IT HELPS THIS INDUSTRIAL PRIMARILY INDUSTRIAL. AND HEAVY NUMBER TWO.
RIGHT INDUSTRIAL. THE EXCEPTION.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE LOOK TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. INCORPORATED.
AS YOU SEE THE-- AROUND THE CITY.
IF-- THE CONIS ALREADY MET. WE CHECKED WITH THE AGENCY.
BUT IF THEY DO NOT HAVE THE AGREEMENT--.
THE WORD CREATION. ENCLAVE OR LIKE A BOUNDARY.
IT DOES NOT CREATE AN ENCLAVING IN FACT.
SO IF THIS IS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, IT WILL NEED THE ALLOCATION OF A FUTURE LAND USE.
AND THEY SHALL BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COUNTY.
ITEMS REGARDING. THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING.
AND THAT IS THE CORRECT WAY OF DOING THINGS.
RECOMMENDING THAT THE PLANNING OARD APPROVES.
DETERMINATION TO THE CITY COMMISSION.
MY QUESTION WAS JUST IN REGARDS TO YOU TOUCHED ON BRIEFLY.
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ARE THERE ANY USES FOR ME TO-- WHAT WOULD BE THE CITY'S NEW ZONING. WITHIN THE COUNTY ZONING.>> I DIDN'T DO THE FULL ANALYSIS.
LOOKED LIKE THE CITY'S DESIGNATION IS A FAR LESS INTENSITY THAN THE COUNTY'S. IN TERMS OF THE REVIEW.
IN THE FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING THAT WHEN CONSIDER THOSE USES. TO BE MOST ALIGNED WITH WHAT THE COUNTY HAS AT THE MOMENT. AND THERE'S A CALCULATION WITHIN THE FUTURE LENS THAT LOOKS AT THE INTENSITY OF WHAT ARE ABLE TO BE PUT IN THERE. .
>> WAS THIS REQUEST FOR AND ABOUT.
>> THE APPLICATION. UTILITIES AGREEMENT YET.
THE SAME UTILITIES THAT THEY WOULD GET.
BECAUSE THEY WILL BE ALREADY IN THE CITY.
>> ALL RIGHT, WELL IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND INVITE THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD.
AND WE'RE GOING TO DO SOME MUSICAL CHAIRS HERE AND SHOW THIS WILL NOT BE THE FIRSTER TO LAST TIME YOU WILL HAVE TODAY.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO JUST BRIEFLY TOUCH ON THE ANNEXATION SPECIFICALLY AT THIS TIME. SIGN IN.
>> THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS DENNIS MURPHY-- INTERPRETING HERE IN FORT PIERCE.
IN SHORT FOR THE ANNEXATION PETITION AS POINTED OUT THIS IS BASICALLY JUST SHADING IN ANOTHER LITTLE PARCEL.
INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL PROPERTY.
AND YOU CAN TELL THAT SOME USE CONTEMPLATED FOR BECAUSE IT WAS LEFT WITH A LITTLE TALE. IN THE CITY.
DEVELOPING FOR AN INDUSTRIAL USE.
AND THEN TAKING IT FROM THERE. CONSISTENT WITH CITY CODES AND CITY STANDARDS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTION SMS.
>> ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT RELATED TO
AT THIS TIME WE WOULD OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ANNEXATION REQUEST, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SO AT THIS TIME I WOULD
ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> I MOVE TO APPROVE AS STATED.
>> SECOND. >> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY MS. CARTER SECOND BY MS. CLEMONS.
>> ALL RIGHT, SO NOW, WE ARE GOING TO BACKTRACK OR ZIGZAG
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BACK TO ITEM 6A. WHICH IS UNDER THE HEARING OF THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY WHICH THIS BOARD ALSO SERVES.SO THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT.
>> THANK YOU CHAIR. PLANNING DIRECTOR.
THIS IS THE SAME LOCATION. SAME PROPERTIES.
NOW SUBJECT TO HEARING. FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND THE LAP AMENDMENT. AS THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE IN THE COUNTSY INDUSTRIAL. AND WHEN IT SAYS A LOT ND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL OF THE ZONING DISTRICTS WITHIN THAT USE. CITY OF FORT PIERCE FUTURE LAND USE THE CLOSEST TO THE COUNTY FUTURE LAND USE.
WITH THE LAND DESIGNATION. THERE ARE THE PROPERTIES AGAIN.
THAT IS A SURROUNDING FUTURE LAND YAWS.
THAT WE SEE THE BULK OF THE LAND USE ARE.
TO BE ALLOCATED. BEAR IN MIND AGAIN.
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THE LAND USE JUST INCLUDE. FUTURE LAND USE IN THE COUNTY OF INDUSTRIAL IS IN FACT HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.BECAUSE THE RANGE IS USED FOR. SO THE PROPERTIES DIDN'T ACTUALLY MENTION HOW BIG THE AREA WAS BEFORE.
THE CORRIDOR IS SOMETHING WE DO LOOK AT.
LAND USE INTA THAT AREA. IT NEEDS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE. AND IT ALSO NEEDS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE COUNTY FUTURE LAND USE IS AT THE MOMENT. SO THE CORRIDOR TO THE NORTHWEST. AND SURROUNDING CITY INDUSTRIAL USES PRIMARILY HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.
AND SO CONSISTENT WITH HEAVY INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATIONS.
IT'S ASPHALT PRODUCTION FACILITY.
AND THAT ALIGNS WITH THE ESTABLISHED INDUSTRIAL COACH IN THE AREA. SO THE CONSISTENCY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS REQUESTED NOT EXCEED THE MAXIMUM INTENSITY OF THE INDUSTRIAL LAND USE CATEGORY.
AND WE LOOKED AT THE COMPARISON BETWEEN WHAT'S THERE ALREADY WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE. FUTURE LAND USE AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE RESIDENTIAL IS NOT ALLOW SOD THAT CALCULATION IS MOOT. THE EXISTING SUITS WITH THE COUNTY INDUSTRIAL LAND USE HAS A FLOOR AREA RATIO OF THREE.
WHICH GIVES YOU 1.3 MILLION SQUARE FEET.
FLOOR AREA RATIO IS VERY SELDOM ACHIEVED.
ALSO CONSTRAINTS ON SITE DEVELOPMENT INTERNAL BUFFERS, ROADWAYS, PARKERING AREAS. AND PROPOSED HEAVY INDUSTRIAL FROM THE CITY'S POINT OF VIEW AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE FLOW IN THE CITY IS LESS. AND IT'S ALMOST 460,000.
THIS IS ACTUALLY LESS. TO IMPACT.
INDUSTRIAL UPON THE AREA. SO IT'S CONSISTENT WITH SECTION 163.3177 FOR STATUTES GOVERNING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS WE'VE CARRIED OUT. BASED ON THAT WE'VE CONSIDERED THE SPRAWL. AND THE CLUSTERING OF THE INDUSTRY. THE STRUCTURE IN A WAY THAT IS AN ECONOMY OF DEVELOPMENT. SO RECOMMENDATION.
INDUSTRIAL FAUCH LAND USE. THE RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL OF THIS. THAN THE SEPARATE ORDINANCE WILL ALLOCATE THE APPROPRIATE ZONING DISTRICT WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT. SO THE REQUEST AND MOVE IT TO THE COMMISSION FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION.
>> THANK YOU MR. FREEMAN. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ONE? HEARING NONE, I WOULD INVITE THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD AGAIN.
GET YOUR EXERCISE. >> AGAIN FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS DENNIS MURPHY WITH INTERPRETING HERE FOR PIERCE-- SELVITZ. KEVIN EXPLAINED WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING HERE. TEND TO MAKE INDUSTRIAL USE OF THE PROPERTY AND PROCEED FORWARD FROM THERE.
>> MY ONLY QUESTION WAS SO-- BASED ON THE PRESENTATION AT LEAST, THE ONLY NOTABLE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE A REDUCTION IN THE RATIO. I GUESS THIS ISN'T REALLY LIKE
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A QUESTION. BUT IF YOU WOULD JUST KIND OF SPEAK TO WHAT THE ADVANTAGE IS FOR THIS APPLICANT.FUTURE LAND USE. AS OPPOSED TO THE OPTION OF
REMAINING IN THE COUNTY. >> WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THE CITY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. OUR CLIENTS-- WE'RE GOING TO GET THE SERVICE. IN FACT I HAVE SEVERAL CLIENTS WHO ARE DOING THIS ACROSS THE BOARD.
YOU'LL BE SEEING ME AGAIN OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS.
THEY ELECTED NOT TO WAIT FOR THE GROUP ANNEXATIONS TO TAKE PLACE WHENEVER THAT MAY BE. AND LET'S JUST GO IN UP FRONT.
LET'S WORK WITH ONE THROUGH OUR WHOLE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND SIMPLY CUT OUT THE MIDDLEMAN IN THIS CASE THE COUNTY.
BECAUSE IT'S A NICE WAY TO POCKET.
VERSUS REMAINING IN THE COUNTY. ALL THE LAND AROUND IT IS IN THE CITY AND MORE PERMANENT IS ALREADY IN THE CITY.
SO IT JUST MADE SENSE TO US TO SIMPLY COME IN TO STAY IN AND THEN NOT WORRY ABOUT CLEANING UP STUFF LATER ON.
JUST PROGRESS FORWARD. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.
JUST SO YOUR CLIENT IS FULLY AWARE OF THE FACT THAT THE MAXIMUM FLOOR SPACE IS SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE ZMRPD THAT'S NOT A PARTICULAR CONCERN FOR US.
YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO HIT THAT. YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO-- THE SQUARE FOOT IS THE SIZE OF A NEW WAREHOUSES THAT ARE GOING UP OUT HERE FORT PIERCE. DOWN AT PORT ST. LUCIE.
ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO AHEAD AND INVITE ANY MEMBERS FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT? SEEING NO ONE.
I WILL SEND IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR FINAL DISCUSSIONS.
HEARING NONE. >> I WOULD MOTION TO APPROVE
THE REQUEST. >> MOTION TO APPROVE.
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ALL RIGHT. >> MOVING ON NOW TO ITEM 7B.
THE ZONING ATLAS MAP AMENDMENT. >> THANK YOU CHAIR.
KEN FREEMAN PLANNING DIRECTOR. THIS IS THE ROUNDING OFF OF THIS PROCESS. THE FINAL STEP IN THIS ANNEXATION FUTURE LANDUSE IS THE ZONING ATLAS AMENDMENT.
HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. THE CLOSEST ZONING THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY TO THAT. SURROUNDING LOCATION WITHIN.
INTENSITY OF LIGHT INDUSTRY. AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL MORE TO THE WEST AND SOUTH. SO TRANSITIONING FROM SELVITZ INTO A MORE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AREA.
10.5 ACRES BETWEEN SELVITZ AND GLADES CUT-OFF.
THE EXISTING DESIGNATION OF HEAVY INDUSTRIAL IN THE COUNTY.
AND THE REQUEST IS TO SIGN THE CITY ZONING OF HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. SO IT'S CONCURRENT WITH THE ANNEXATION AND ZONING ASSIGNMENT.
THE ZONING IS CONCURRENT WITH THE ANNEXATION AND FUTURE LAND USE. CONSISTENT PROPOSED INDUSTRIAL LAND USE. THEY ARE ALL AT PUBLIC FACILITIES AVAILABLE. OR THAT WILL BE PROVIDED CONCURRENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AND THAT WILL BE DONE THROUGH A SATE PLAN. THE NON-INDUSTRIAL ALIGNMENT.
IT IS THE CLOSEST TO THE ST. LUCIE ZONING DESIGNATION THAT THE PROPERTIES RIGHT NOW. TO MAKE AND GOES FORWARD TO THE
CITY COMMISSION WITH THAT. >> THANK YOU MR. FREEMAN.
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ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? >> YES, I HAVE A-- SO THE SURROUNDING USES THAT EXIST KIND OF THE FOCUS OF MY QUESTIONS. SO THIS COULD POTENTIALLY BE A MUCH MORE INTENSE USE. AND SOMETIMES YOU KNOW NEIGHBOURS HAVE ISSUES AND SO I'M JUST WONDERING ABOUT THOSE SURROUNDING USES AND IMPACTS AND OF COURSE MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED WITH THE SITE PLANNING TODAY. THERE WAS SOMETHING I AM NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THE CITY'S PROCESSES.
I HAVE OTHER JURISDICTIONS. >> PRIMARY CONSIDERATION.
TO THE COUNTY ZONING. AND SO WE'VE THE CLOSEST IN THE CITY TO EXISTING IN THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW.
THERE ARE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES TO THE SOUTH.
AND TO THE WEST. AS A CONSIDERATION.
SO WELL IF THESE TRANSITIONING POINTS.
AND WHEN THE SITE PLAN COMES FORWARD, THAT'S ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT WILL BE. ALL THE IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBOURS. REGARDING THE USE THERE.
THE APPLICANT WOULD BE TO ACCOMMODATE.
IF THERE ARE ANY. >> MR. CHAIR, FOLLOW UP? QUESTION. SO CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE EXISTING USES ARE SURROUNDING THIS PROPERTY? OR MAYBE THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK TO THAT?
>> THE APPLICANT MIGHT BE ABLE TO.
AND IT'S A MIXTURE OF ALL SORTS OF USES GOING ON THERE.
IT'S LIKE VEHICLES. LIKE RACE PRO THING GOING ON OUT THERE. AND THERE'S OTHER CONCRETE AND OTHER ACTIVITIES GOING ON THERE.
NOT REALLY. I DON'T HAVE A MATRIX OF EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON THERE.
>> NO. AND I DON'T-- AND THE EXPLANATION MADE SENSE. AND I MAY BE JUST OVERLY SENSITIVE HAVING DEALT WITH ISSUES WITH NEIGHBOURS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THAT MAY NOT OCCUR.
SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU. >> I WOULD ADD THAT.
IT'S A DIFFERENT SORT OF IMPACT.
INDUSTRIAL NOISE IMPACT ON NEIGHBOURING INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITIES WHICH ARE DEPENDANT ON AVOIDING THOSE TYPES OF
IMPACTS. >> THAT WAS REALTY FOCUS.
JUFT NOT ANY RESIDENTIAL BUT DEPENDING ON WHAT YOUR NEIGHBOUR DOES. THAT'S ALL.
BUT THANK YOU. >> I MEAN WILL BE TAKING THAT
INTO ACCOUNT. >> WHAT IS THE SPECIFIC USE THAT THIS OPERATION WOULD CLASSIFY IN.
>> AN ASPHALT. >> OR THE USAGE TABLE.
I WAS JUST TRYING. >> I THINK TO AGREE THAT IT MAY
NOT BE--. >> I WAS WONDERING IF IT FALLS
UNDER THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. >> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE THINKING.
THE COUNTY TO THE CITY AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE OF WHAT IS.
WHAT'S THE ENTITLEMENT OF THIS PROPERTY, OVER.
AND UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WILL LEAD A SITE PLAN WHEN IT COMES FORWARD. THE MITIGATE POTENTIAL IMPACTS ARE. IT IS.
RIGHT NOW, IT IS ZONE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.
SO IT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO COUNTY REGULATIONS.
BUT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE PROBLEM ATTIC THAT WE DON'T
HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER. >> RIGHT.
WE WOULDN'T BE-- AND-- WE WOULDN'T BE SURPRISING ANYONE.
ABOUT THIS LOCATION. SO, OKAY.OME FORWARD ONE
LAST TIME? >> CHAIR FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS DENNIS MURPHY-- FORT PIERCE. YES OUR CLIENT IS USES IN OUR
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WANT ME TO PULL SOMETHING UP? >> NO, I CAN EXPLAIN IT REAL QUICK. BUT A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORIC BACKGROUND. THIS AREA IN THE COUNTY..
FOR OVER 40-PLUS YEARS. TO THE EQUIVALENT OF THAT.
THE COVE BACK IN THE MID 80S. COMMISSIONER STOREY YOU WERE AT THE SAME MEETINGS AS PIP AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO GO ANY FURTHER
>> STOP RIGHT THERE. BUT THIS AREA WAS ALL CLASSIFIED FOR HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USE.
AND IT WAS DEVELOPED ACCORDINGLY.
DUE TO ANNEXATION ISSUES IN THE CITY.
WITH SOME PROPERTIES CAME IN. THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY DO IT PURE APPLE FOR AM TYPE DESIGNATION CHANGE.
SO THE FORT-- BUSINESS PARK AREA.
THE LIGHT COMING UP WHERE THE CUL-DE-SAC COMES IN.
HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. THAT WAS THE EKWIV LENT OF THE P.E.D. IN THE COUNTY AT THE TIME THAT PROJECT WAS APPROVED.
AND IT WAS BASICALLY DESIGNED TO GIVE ME WIDE VARIETY OF USES. AND WHEN YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THOSE USES, THEY HAVE A LAUNDRY LIST OF EVERYTHING.
WHEN I WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY.
THE CITY DIDN'T HAVE A COMPARABLE ZONING DESIGNATION TO PUT IT INTO. INTO THE I1 DESIGNATION WHETHER THAT WAS APPROPRIATE OR NOT. AND ONE PARCEL IN THE SUBDIVISION THAT NEVER WAS ANNEXED STILL CARRIES THE IH ZONING DESIGNATION ONTO IT. SO THE POINT I'M MAKING IN ALL OF THIS IS THAT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN INDUSTRIAL HEAVY DOWN THERE. WE'RE NOT CHANGING THAT.
AND WE'RE GOING TO BE KEEP FORWARD WITH THAT.
AS FAR AS DIRECT-- THE PROPERTY TO THE IMMEDIATE WEST I3 THAT'S A CEMENT OPERATION. THE WEST PROPERTY LINE.
THE DUST OR NOTE OR DEGREE. A LOT IS GOING TO DEPEND ON GEOMETRY. WOULDN'T EXPECT BEING AN OFFENSIVE NEIGHBOUR TO ANY OF OUR FELLOW NEIGHBOURS WHO ARE DOING PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THING THAT WE'RE DOING.
SO WE'LL BE IN THAT PARTICULAR CATEGORY.
AND I DON'T SEE ANYTHING BEING A PROBLEMATIC SITE.
SO I THINK WE'RE IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE FOR ALL OF THAT.
I DO HAVE ONE THING THOUGH JUST PERSONAL PREFERENCE HERE.
PERSONAL INDULGENCE HERE. WE GOT A STRANGE E-MAIL TODAY.
FROM-- BRINGING THIS UP TO GIVE TO THE CITY FOR THE CLERK TO PASS UP TO WHOEVER YOU NEED TO. WE GOT A STRANGE E-MAIL TODAY TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT YOU READ THROUGH IT, IT LOOKS TO BE AN AI-GENERATED EXTORTION LETTER ASKING FOR FEES.
AND WHAT WAS INTERESTING ABOUT THIS IS WE WENT AND CHECKED-- SAID THERE WAS STOLEN MONEY. AND I'LL LEAVE YOU A COPY SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT IS. YOU CAN SMELL SOMETHING OUT THAT DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT. SO WE FLAGGED IT REAL QUICK AND BASICALLY SAID NO. SO WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING AT.
AND GO DOWN A PATH THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN.
ZONING THROUGH HERE. AS I RECALL, ALL OF OUR BILLINGS FOR WHATEVER WORK DOING HERE FOR YOU WILL COME THROUGH THE SYSTEM. YOU WILL NOT BE SENDING SEPARATE INDIVIDUAL BILLS TO AN APPLICANT FOR WHAT WE ARE HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS. BUT WE WANTED TO BRING THIS TO MY ATTENTION SO THAT YOU CAN MAYBE BEGIN TO GO AND LOOK AND MAYBE PUTTING UP SOME LITTLE SAFETY DISCLAIMERS.
FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT DOING HERE.
THEY WERE ASKING THAT THE FUNDS IN THIS INVOICE BE WIRED TO THE
CITY. >> I DON'T BELIEVE YA'LL TAKE APPLICATION PAYMENTS BY WIRE PAYMENTS.
I DON'T THINK YOU DO THAT. I KNOW THE CITY OF PORT ST.
LUCIE DOESN'T AND THEY EVERYBODY GN SO FAR AS TO PUT A DISCLAIMER ON THEIR PLANNING DEPARTMENT APPLICATION
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PACKAGE-- PAGE, THAT SAYS THE CITY DOES NOT DO WIRE.IF YOU GET A NOTICE SAYING PAY BY WIRE, CONTACT THE CITY.
IF THEY WANT TO LOOK TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AGAIN, WE WOULD UNDERSTAND. 9 TIMES OUT OF 10 YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET SOMETHING BY US. BUT THERE ARE FOLKS OUT THERE WHO MAY BE COMING BEFORE YOU WHO AREN'T GOING TO GO IN AND EMPLOY PEOPLE WHO KNOW-- THE INS AND OUTS.
RIGHT EXPERIENCED. THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO-- SO I WILL GIVE THIS TO THE CLERK. THAT'S THE E-MAIL TRAIL THAT WE GOT TODAY. JUST THOUGHT I'D PASS THIS ON.
>> PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT. >> YEAH LITTLE PSA ACTIVITY THERE. NOW BACK TO THE ISSUE AT HAND.
IF YOU HAVE ANY PARTICULAR, I'M HERE TO ANSWER THEM.
OTHERWISE, I WOULD JUST SIMPLY REQUEST THAT WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR THE CITY COMMISSION AND WE WILL
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
>> MY QUESTIONS WERE SATISFYED. I APPRECIATE THAT.
>> WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION. SUCH AS THE NATURE OF PUBLIC INFORMATION. VERY SUSCEPTIBLE TO FRAUD ATTEMPTS. ALL RIGHT AT THIS TIME I WOULD OPEN UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT. IF THERE ARE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ZONING ATLAS MAP AMENDMENT PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
SEEING NONE, I WILL SEND IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR ANY FINAL COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION. HEARING NONE.
I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THIS TIME.
>> I MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >> SECOND.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY MS. CLEMONS SECOND BY MS. CARTER. PLEASE CALL THE ROLE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.
ALL RIGHT. AND NOW ITEM 8 COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO COMMENT ABOUT ITEMS OF GENERAL PLANNING NATURE PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME. SEEING NONE.
>> PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO 30 MINUTES.
>> THIS IS NOT A VERY HEAVILY ATTENDED MEETING TODAY.
BUT I DON'T THINK I MIND AFTER THE ONE WE HAD LAST MONTH.
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ALL RIGHT. SO SEEING NO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC WE WILL MOVE ON. MR. FREEMAN YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.>> THANK YOU CHAIR. SO RECENTLY I THINK ULTIMATELY.
TO STAFF WILL DECIPHER. TO COMING DOWN.
PARTICULARLY EFFECTIVE. SO OFFER.
AND WHICH THEY CHARGE FOR THOSE SERVICES.
AND SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH ALL OF THOSE.
BUT WE WILL BE SEEING SOME OF THOSE TO THE CODE COME FORWARD.
AND THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE ARE GOING TO TRY AND HAVE TO GET THROUGH. SO THAT'S MY PRIORITY AT THE MOMENT. WE ALSO WHAT YOU MIGHT EXPECT SEE GOING ON IN NEIGHBOURING COUNTIES IS INTERESTING.
IN DATA CENTRES. SO WE ARE SEEING INQUIRIES OF THAT NATURE COME IN. HAVEN'T GOT ANYTHING THAT IS IN CONSIDERATION BUT WE DO HAVE INQUIRIES THAT WE THINK ARE GOING TO ARRIVE AT THAT. THERE IS A STATE STATUTE JUST BEEN SIGNED. REGARDING MEGA DATA CENTRES.
AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET ANY OF THOSE IN.
BUT WHO KNOWS. BUT IS INTERESTED BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE OBVIOUSLY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THESE THINGS.
SO IF YOU CAN EDUCATE YOURSELVES ON THAT SORT OF POTENTIAL, THEN THAT WOULD BE USEFUL.
ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ARGUMENT, I MIGHT HAVE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. WHAT APPLIES.
AFTER HEARING THOSE. AND THE SYSTEMS WHICH ADDRESS.
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FOR POTENTIAL QUESTIONS THAT COME IN.AND TO SUPPORT OBJECTION TO THOSE THINGS.
IT'S GOING TO GET QUIET. RECENTLY IN TERMS OF NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING. ACTUALLY APPLYING.
WE GET A NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS TO JUST TALK ABOUT STUFF.
PLANNING PROJECT. AD MEETINGS THAT WE DO.
WHERE ACTUALLY FORMING NOW A MORE FORMAL SYSTEM OF REQUESTING PRE-APPLICATIONS TO PLANNING BUILDING AND ENGINEERING DEPARTMENTS ESSENTIALLY.
GROUPING THOSE TOGETHER. AND WE'RE GOING TO USE OUR ONLINE PERMITTING SYSTEM TO FACILITATE THAT.
IN THE SYSTEM. AND INCORPORATE INTO APPLICANTS. SCHEDULE.
IN WRITING. ABLE TO RECEIVE COMMENTS.
JUST AT THE MOMENT IT'S A BIT SPORADIC.
THAT MIGHT BE DEPENDANT ON. BACK TO THE STATE STATUTE.
APPLICANTS TO GO OUT. AND ACTUALLY-- IN THE CITY.
SO WE NEED TO COUNTER THAT BY HAVING OUR OWN WAY-- SYSTEM OF DOING IT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT. THE STATE STATUTE ALLOWS.
IS EVEN IF SOMEONE DOESN'T HAVE A PRE-APPLICATION PROCESS TO OFFER THAT SERVICE TO THE MUNICIPALITIES.
WHICH IS YOU KNOW, RATHER JUST CONCENTRATE ON MY OWN JOB THAN DO OTHERS. BUT THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN TO. HOW THAT'S CARRIED OUT BY APPLICANT IFS THEY CHOOSE TO GO THROUGH A PRIVATE PROVIDER TO DO THAT. THE ADVICE THEY'D GET IF THEY DID THAT. I'M SURE THAT THEY WOULD BE CONSULTING CITY STAFF. AND DEMANDING THAT TIME FROM CITY STAFF TO FULFILL THEIR OBLIGATION TO DO PRE-APP PRE-APPLICATIONS.
SO IT'S-- AN UNUSUAL SITUATION. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO COUNTER THAT BY PREPARING OURSELVES TO HANDLE THOSE THINGS.
TO GET PEOPLE. I THINK THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO DO. IS GET PEOPLE AWARE OF THIS.
OPPORTUNITY TO TALK. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF ISSUES RECENTLY WHERE FOLKS SIGNED LEASES, FOR BUILDINGS, FOR A USE THAT ULTIMATELY RESULTS IN A CHANGE OF USE FOR THE BUILDING. OR IS AFFECTED.
THESE THINGS AND IT COMES BACK INTO USE OF SOME SORT.
IT I INITIATES ALL THE ZONING REGULATIONS THAT SURPRISE PEOPLE. FOR CAUSING IT.
SO WE WANT TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE MORE AWARE.
LOOK AT FOR THEIR BUSINESS. WE WANT TONE COURAGE BUSINESS.
IN US1. A NUMBER OF VACANT BUILDINGS.
WE WANT TO GET THOSE BUILDINGS BACK INTO USE.
SO WE HAVE A SIDE-- THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT IS-- CAN WE MAKE THAT-- CAN WE FACILITATE THAT IN AN EASIER MORE STRAIGHT FORWARD WAY. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT OUR CODE.
AND OUR NON-CONFORMITY RULES. THERE ARE A LOT OF PROPERTIES AND BUILDINGS IN THE CITY THAT ARE NON-CONFORMING.
A LOT OF PROPERTIES AND BUILDINGS IN THE CITY BECAME NON-CONFORMING WHEN THE THEN-NEW ZONING DISTRICTS WERE PLACED ON TOP OF THEM. AND MOST OF THE PART DO NOT CONFORM. TO COVER OURSELVES FROM AN
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UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE I THINK, I HOPE IT WAS UNINTENDED.THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS GOING ON BOTH INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY, WE HAVE TO OBVIOUSLY GET AHEAD OF THE STATE REQUIREMENTS FOR CERTAIN THINGS.
AND MAKE SURE WE ARE COMPLIANT WITH ALL THOSE THINGS.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WILL BE SEEING PRIMARILY.
TRYING TO GET THROUGH THOSE THINGS.
AND UNDERSTANDING BETTER. YOU CAN HAVE ONE IDEA AND READ ARTICLES ON THINGS AND WHEN YOU TRY AND APPLY THEM, IT COMES OUT. SO LOOKING FOR YOUR HELP, YOU KNOW. AS WE BRING THESE THINGS THROUGH. MAKING SURE AND INTO THESE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE-- IN COMPLIANCE WITH THESE THINGS.
WELL THANK YOU MR. FREEMAN. I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION TO YOU IN REGARDS TO THE DATA CENTRE TOPIC.
I'M SURE WE WILL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO DISCUSS THIS FURTHER, BUT TO KIND OF START WRAPPING MY HEAD AROUND THIS FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE CITY. WHAT CURRENT ZONING AND USES ARE AVAILABLE IN THE CITY FOR DATA CENTRES? LIKE WHAT USE DOES IT CLASSIFY IN?
>> NOT NECESSARILY NAMED AS A USE IN A ZONING.
WHETHER THAT'S SPINS FROM LIGHT TO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL IN QUESTION. AND WHAT ARE THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE ACTUALLY CLASSIFYING THESE.
MOVEMENT AROUND IT. IS PRETTY LOW INTENSITY.
THEY ARE ALL POTENTIAL WAYS. CALLING ISSUES.
BUT I KNOW THE INDUSTRY ARE MAKING ATTEMPTS TO REDUCE THE NOISE FROM THE COOLING SYSTEMS AND HAVING ALTERNATIVE COOLING SYSTEMS. THERE ARE IMPACTS ON WATER USAGE. ON WHETHER THAT BECOMES SELF-CONTAINED. THEY ARE ALL DIFFERENT COOLING SYSTEMS NOW BEING IMPLEMENTED. WHAT CONCERN.
AND THE EMPOWER. SO MORE DOING PROBABLY REQUIRE TO DO MORE IS TO HAVE THEIR OWN POWER GENERATION ON SITE.
SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP AS OBJECTIONS. THAT'S WHERE THIS INDUSTRY IS ADDRESSING. SO THERE'S THINGS MOVING.
AND DATA CENTRE INDUSTRY SEEMS TO BE REACTING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE THE
COMPLICATION. >> AND I WILL SAY WE'VE SEEN IN THE COUNTY. JUST I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS AS TO REAL WHAT POSITION THE CITY IS IN.
IF THE APPLICATION CAME TOMORROW.
DO WE HAVE AN APPARATUS TO HANDLE THAT IF FACILITY RIGHT NOW. HOW PREPARED ARE WE? I THINK THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE A LOT OF INPUT.
BUT ALSO-- FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MOVE FORWARD ON.
WHAT YOU ARE DOING ANYWAY. ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD
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BEFORE WE CLOSE? >> JUST A FEW QUESTIONS.
SO DO YOU TYPICALLY KNOW FROM ONE MONTH TO THE NEXT.
LAKE POTENTIALLY ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH? OR THAT IS JUST AS YOU MOVE FORWARD?
>> IT'S VERY DIFFICULT EVEN FOR US TO NOTIFY APPLICANTS.
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WHAT'S LIKELY TO BE-- THERE ARE A NUMBER OF MOVING PIECES IN THIS. COMMENTS BACK BEFORE WE EVEN MOVE FORWARD. SO IT'S A POINT IN TIME BETWEEN TWO PLANNING BOARD MEETINGS THAT WE WILL ACTUALLY REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. IF THE LEGAL HAS BEEN DONE CORRECTLY. IF WE HAVE CITY ATTORNEY SIGN-OFF. ALL OF THOSE THINGS.WHERE WE'RE RELUCTANT TO ACTUALLY PUSH FORWARD THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THAT DATE. UNTIL WE REALLY CERTAIN.
IT'S DIFFICULT BUT IF I DO HAVE ADVANCE WARNING OF SOMETHING, YOU KNOW COMING IN THAT WE KNOW IS GOING TO COME FORWARD, WHICH I CAN SAY. STATE STATUTE RESOLUTIONS TO COME FORWARD. I'LL UPDATE THAT AND PROBABLY GET SOME MEMOS OUT TO LOOK AT THOSE PRIOR TO THE MEETING HEAD. SO YOU CAN EACH DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH IF YOU NEED TO. WE'RE STILL TRYING TO DISSECT THE VARIOUS PIECES THAT WHETHER WE CAN DO MULTIPLE THINGS AT ONE TIME. OR WHETHER WILL THESE NEED TO BE PULLED OUT AND HANDLED SEPARATELY BECAUSE THE COMPLEXITY OF THESE THINGS. SO I WILL COMMIT.
THAT IF WE'RE ABLE TO GET SOME ADVANCE WARNING OUT, WE'LL GET THESE OUT IN A MEMO AND PARTICULARLY THINKING OF THE ORE EASY TO GET OUT THERE ON BROADCAST THAT. Select to skip to this part of the video">ORE EASY TO GET OUT THERE ON BROADCAST THAT.
TO COME THROUGH. >> AND JUST A COMMENT.
SO I CERTAINLY SYMPATHIZE WITH STAFF HAVING BEEN.
THE HATS THAT I WEAR. VOLUNTEER WORK TRYING TO FOLLOW THE LEGISLATION. AND JUST EDITORIAL COMMENT SEEMED TO BE MADE WITHOUT TALKING TO PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY DO THE WORK. ABOUT WHAT WILL ACTUALLY WORK.
FOR PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY DO THE WORK.
HAS BEEN I THINK AN ISSUE. SYMPATHY, SUPPORT, INDULGENCE,
WHATEVER YOU CALL IT. >> IT'S A LOT GOING ON.
YEAH A LOT GOING ON. >> THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL ADJOURN.
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