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          [6. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject on this agenda may be heard at this time.  Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Chairperson, as this section of the Agenda is limited to fifteen minutes. The FPRA Board will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Chairperson, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]
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          >>WE ALSO HAVE MOLD BECAUSE THE ROOF WAS LEAKING AND NOW WE HAVE 
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SIGNIFIED POLLED INTRUSION INTO THE BLINK AND FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE REMEDIATION OF THE MOLD. 
          WE HAVE IN GOOD FAITH CONTINUED TO HAVE SERVICE POST VIRTUAL. 
          WE INVITE TO YOU ATTEND OUR CONTINUED SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO GET IN THE BUILDING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. WE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ADDRESSING OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH FPRA. 
          WE CAN TO THE HAVE ADVERSARIAL RELATIONSHIP. 
          WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE AND MAKE SURE ONCE WE PUT SOMETHING ON PAPER WE FOLLOW IT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAVE A GOOD DAY. 
          >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO ADDRESS THE 
          [7. CONSENT AGENDA]
COMMISSION I MEAN THE BOARD? OKAY. 
          WE WILL MOVE ON. >> NEXT THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          >> THERE'S ONE ITEM. IS THERE A MOST OR DISCUSSION? 
          >> I MOVE APPROVAL. >> MOTION AND SECOND. 
          [F.  FPRA Resolution 26-11 accepting the Marina Square Conceptual Design as a Planning Framework with No Implementation or Effective Date]
          PROPOSED RULE] >> MR. CHEST, DO YOU HAVE A LEAD 
          IN? >> YES, MR. KRAMER FROM INSPIRED PLACE MAKING IS GOING TO GIVE PRESENTATION ON THE MARINA 
          PROJECT. >> ALL RIGHTY. 
          >> THE ASSISTANCE OF MISS HONIDGE. 
          >> MR. CHEST ALREADY INTRODUCED MR. KRAMER BUT BEFORE WE PASS IT ALONG I JUST WANTED TO BRIEF RECAP OF WHERE WE HAVE BEEN WITH THIS PROJECT. IT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU AS A CON SEPTUM PASTOR PLAN BACK IN SEPTEMBER OF 2025, I THINK IT WAS SEPTEMBER. TRITE GEORGE? THAT SOUNDS RIGHT. CAME BEFORE WITH YOU THE ENTIRE MASTER PLAN AFTER EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY INPUT. 
          AGAIN THIS PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY CALLED OUT IN THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN 2022 SO WE HAVE BEEN AT THIS SOME TIME. 
          THE ADDITIONAL SCOPE WE EXECUTED WAS TO ADDRESS THE PARKING PROBLEM IN THE DOWNTOWN OR HOW WE CAN SOVP AND RESOLVE THE PARKING ISSUE THAT THE POTENTIAL MARINA SQUARE PROJECT WOULD CREATE. SO, GEORGE IS HERE TO RECAP SOME OF THAT PROCESS AND THE PARKING SOLUTION HE'S IDENTIFIED. 
          >> MR. CLAIMER. GREAT. 
          THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, JUST LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TONIGHT, TO PRESENT THIS PLAN. ALSO I TWO LIKE TO THANK CITY STAFF, WHO HAS BEEN JUST INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING. 
          YOU KNOW ADVANCE THIS AS CHEYENNE MENTIONED THIS PART OF THE EARLIEST PARTS OF THIS PLAN AND PROCESS STARTED WITH THAT 
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DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN AND WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON THAT DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN YOU KNOW WE HEARD FROM LEADERSHIP THAT WE WANTED OUR PLAN THAT DOESN'T SIT ON THE SHELF THAT THERE NEEDED TO BE ACTION AND THIS IS THE ADVANCEMENT OF SO WITHOUT FURTHER A ADIEU I'LL GO THROUGH THE SLIDES AND BE HAPPEN TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND AGAIN THE ORIGINAL PROJECT SITE LOOKING AT THE MARINA SQUARE PROPERTY ALL OF THAT CITY-OPENED PROPERTY, IN PART OF THE REVISION IS TO EXPAND THAT SCOPE A LITTLE BIT TO LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING AREAS WITHIN THE CITY AND YOU KNOW CHEYENNE MENTIONED EVALUATE SOME OF THE PARKING. YOU KNOW, BE WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITHIN THE AREA, LOOKING AT THE PHYSICAL CONDITIONS, BUT ALSO YOU KNOW TALKING WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND THOUSAND PARK IS BEING UTILIZED CURRENTLY BUT OF EQUAL IMPORTANCE IS HOW THE PARK AREA IS NOT BEING UTILIZED AND WHAT RESIDENTS HAVE FORT PIERCE ARE NOT CURRENTLY USERS OF THIS PUBLIC SPACE AND HOW CAN WE THROUGH THIS PROCESS EXPAND THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, WE HAD REALLY GREAT COORDINATION WITH DEAN AND KYLE IN THE CITY MARINA UNDERSTANDING WHAT A UNIQUE ASSET THAT IS TO HAVE A CITY-OWNED MARINA IN THE DOWNTOWN. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY FUNCTIONS AS A NEIGHBORHOOD AS A DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD, SO THE STAKEHOLDERS OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE VISITING AND SOME WHO HAVE LONGER STAYS THAT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE PLANNING PROCESS AND AS I MENTIONED BEFORE WE HAD MULTIPLE COMMUNITY WORKSHOPS AS WELL AS STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS, THERE WAS A PROJECT WEB SITE THAT PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE INPUT ON. SO WHAT DID WE HEAR? YOU KNOW, STARTING AGAIN WITH THOSE EXISTING USERS, THE FARMERS MARKET JAZZ AND BLUES BETTER SPACE FOR THESE EVENTS AND VENDORS. YOU KNOW I SAY SO OFTEN WHEN WE ARE DESIGNING PUBLIC SPACES WE TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF ACTIVATING THOSE, RIGHT? THE PHYSICAL DESIGN IS ONLY PART OF IT. IT NEED TO BE ACTIVATED. 
          I THINK ONE OF THE VAPGS FORT PIERCE HAS IS THERE ARE ALREADY REALLY GREAT GROUPS AND ACTIVITIES THAT ARE USING THE SPACE SO THAT DESIGN SHOULD ENHANCE THOSE AND WE ALSO LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES THAT AREN'T IN THE PARK CURRENTLY, THE SPLASH PAD, THERE WAS INTEREST IN THAT A DOG PARK FOR THE CANINES. 
          AGAIN PROTECTING WE TALK ABOUT THIS IN THE MASTER PLAN A LOT ONE OF THE CITY'S ASSETS IS PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE WATERFRONT SO HOW CAN WE ENHANCE THAT EXPERIENCE MULTI-GENERATIONAL PLAY PROCEED STRIEGD DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THE FOR AGES AND ABILITIES THROUGH THERE, AND ALSO ECOLOGICAL RESTORATION. 
          I THINK THE CITY MARINA STORY AND THROUGH THE OYSTER BEDS AND EDUCATIONAL ACTIVITIES HAVE ENHANCED THE ACTIVITIES OF THE COMMUNITY. SO THE THIS IS SOME OF THE THINGS WE HEARD ABOUT, AND TALKED ABOUT THE NPARKING WHICH WE WILL TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GERN THE HOME FILLS AND HOW HOW THAT AFFECTS SOME OF THE PUBLIC SPACES AND HOW BEST TO DEAL WITH THAT. CERTAINLY PARKING WAS AT THE TOP. WE DON'T NEED TO DEBATE WHETHER IT'S PERCEPTION OR THERE'S AN ISSUE. 
          IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THERE'S A DEMAND FOR NOT JUST MORE PARKING BUT A BETTER OVERALL PARKING SYSTEM AND AS I GO THROUGH THESE SLIDES WE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS IN A 3-M STRATEGY TO MODIFY THE EXISTING CITY OWNED PROPERTY AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH FIRST AND THE SECOND IS TO MANAGE WE THINK PART OF THE STRATEGY NEEDS TO BE MANAGING THE SPOTS WE HAVE NOW BECAUSE THERE IS A LACK OF CONSISTENT MANAGEMENT DOWNTOWN AND THE THIRD IS TO MAXIMIZE AND WE RECOGNIZE THE CITY IS LEVERAGING 
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STRATEGIC GROUND LEASES CURRENTLY THE MAXIMIZE STRATEGY CONTINUES. FIRST PART OF THE STUDY IS ANALYZING SUPPLY AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DON'T JUST LOOK AT THE ENTIRE AREA AS THE PARKING SUPPLY. 
          WE REALLY TRY TO DEVELOP THAT INTO THROW ZONES THE NORTHERN ZONE ZONE A, B AND C SO IDENTIFYING THESE ARE ON STREET AN OFF-STREET BUT IT'S ALL CITY-OWNED PROPERT SO THERE ARE ACTUALLY MORE THAN 1282 PARKING SPACES. 
          THOSE ARE JUST THE ONES THAT IN CITY CONTROL CURRENTLY. 
          SO, WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE FIRST STEP AND YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT CONSIDER THIS A MINOR INTERVENTION, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY JUST ON RESHAPING SOME OF THE PARKING LOTS THAT ARE ON CITY-OWNED PROPERTY YOU COULD PICK UP ADDITIONAL 82 SPACES AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE COST OF PARKING WE THINK THAT'S WORTHWHILE SO WE IDENTIFIED SOME OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND THAT'S STEP ONE. 
          STEP TWO IS TO MANAGE. YOU KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS IS THERE'S NOT REALLY FREE PARKING IN FORT PIERCE. 
          THERE'S NO FEE FOR PARKING BUT THERE IS A COST TO CITY TAXPAYERS TO PROVIDE THESE PARKING SPACES AND ONE THING WE NOTICED AND THIS IS ANECDOTAL BUT WHEN WE GOT UP TO SEE THE SUNRISE IN THE SUNRISE CITY WE COUNTED 59CARS IN THAT AREA AND THERE WERE NOT 59 PEOPLE. THERE WERE JUST A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE SO YOU KNOW, AGAIN IN CONVERSATION WITH DEAN AND KYLE THEY RECOGNIZE THERE ARE PATRONS THAT ARE PARKING IN THE DOWNTOWN OVERNIGHT AND EXTENDED PERIODS SO THE WAY TO MANAGE THAT IS TO REALLY HAVE A PARKING SYSTEM AND IF WE COULD TAKE JUST FOR INSTANCE THE MARINA PATRONS WHO ARE GOING TO BE HERE IF WE COULD MANAGE WHO IS THE LONGER TERM STAYS WITH DESIGNATED PARKING TOWARD THE NORTH, THAT COULD HELP PROVIDE MORE CAPACITY WITHIN THE CORE OF DOWNTOWN. SO THAT'S MODIFY, MANAGE, THE THIRD IS MAXIMIZE. AND AGAIN, I TALKED ABOUT THIS EXHIBIT HERE SHOWS SOME EXISTING LEASES THAT THE CITY HAS, AS WELL AS SOME POTENTIAL FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES. 
          FOR LEASES. AND AND THE PARTNERSHIP, WE HAVE GOT THE COUNTY GARAGE THERE AS WELL, AND THERE'S 184 SPACES, BUT ALSO, THROUGH CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY AND STAKEHOLDERS, YOU KNOW WE REALLY RECOGNIZED WHILE THERE WAS ENTHUSIASM FOR THE PARK THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT THE PARKING AND SO THE NEW STRUCTURED GARAGE A FACILITY THAT IS EAST THE RAILROAD TRACKS WE UNDERSTAND THE CURRENT GARAGE EVEN THOUGH THERE'S CAPACITY THERE THAT THAT LOCATION WEST OF TRACKS HAS BEEN PROBLEMATIC AND SO IN SO TO LOOK AT THE FEASIBILITY AFTER NEW STRUCTURED GARAGE AS PART OF THE LARGER PARK PLAN. 
          SO, AGAIN, WHAT WE ARE IMAGINING THROUGH THIS PROCESS IS DIFFERENT NEW AND EXCITE WATERFRONT EXPERIENCE FOR DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE AND I WANT TO START WITH THIS OVERHEAD VIEW AND GET INTO A FEW STREET LEVEL PERIOD SPEFS BUT THE THEIRS THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THAT STRUCTURE PARKING GARAGE. 
          THE FIRST THING THROUG AND THIS IS JUST A CONCEPTUAL EVALUATION BUT BECAUSE OF THE BUSINESSES TO THE WEST THERE NEEDS TO BE CLEARANCE THIS THAT ALLEY SO IN THE FOOTPRINT OF THE GARAGE IN ORDER TO GET A LAY OUT OF THE GARAGE WOULD REQUIRE A SHIFTING OF INDIAN RIVER DRIVE SLIGHTLY EAST WE ARE AWARE THAT SECTION OF INDIAN RIVER DRIVE IS CONTROLLED BY THE CITY IT'S DOABLE, IT'S NEVER A SIMPLE TASK BUT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN CONVECTION WITH THE PARK AND THE SHIFTING OF THE DRIVE IN THE GARAGE YOU KNOW IT'S A BIDDINGER STEP AND ONE WE FELT WAS GOING TO PROVIDE HAVING THAT IS NEEDED TO MAKE THIS PROJECT A SUCCESS. 
          AGAIN WHAT YOU'LL SEE THROUGH THIS AND SHOWN BETTER ON THE STREET LEVEL BUT THE SURRENDER COLONADE THE PLAZA THOSE ARE HOW DO WE BETTER SUPPORT EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING, BUT ALSO, PROVIDE 
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FLEXIBLE CONDITIONS LIKE WARM DAYS LIKE TOO AND I GUESS IT WOULD IT WOULD HELP WITH THE TRAIN FOOT WE HAVE ENTRY LAWN OR REEVENTS LAWN WHETHER SOMEBODY WANT TO THREE A FRISBEE, MORE NATURAL AREAS WE TALK ABOUT THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU KNOW TO HELP WITH STORM WATER BUT ALSO, TO PROVIDE YOU KNOW ADDITIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL ENHANCEMENT. IF I COULD FOCUS YOUR ATTENTION TO THE WATER WE NOTICED THAT THERE'S, WELL WE HEARD THAT PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE MORE ACCESS TO THE WATER AND IT WAS KIND OF COOLED WE WERE THERE FOR THE SUNRISE AND WE SAW SOME OF THE STUDENTS WHO WERE OUT FISHING BEFORE SCHOOL. 
          I DON'T WANT TO GET ANY AT ONE IN TROUBLE BUT THEY WERE ON THE WALL THERE AND CLIMBED ONTO THE ROCKS THERE. 
          SO WE'VE HEARD THE FISHING IS BETTER DOWN THERE TO THE SOUTH AND SO LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE SAFE AND ACCESSIBILITY TO THE WATER AND ENHANCEMENT OF THIS FISHING EXPERIENCE AS WELL. 
          I GUESS LASTLY AND CERTAINLY IMPORTANTLY ACCESS FOR THE CITY MARINA FOR DELIVERIES AND EXTENSIVE COMMUNICATION WITH CITY MARINA STAFF AND WAS GOING TO WORK FOR THEIR OPERATIONS AND SO AGAIN, THESE ARE SOME CONCEPTUAL, THE GARAGE MAY BE TALLER THAN WE WANT BUT JUST THE IDEA THE PROXIMITY OF PARKING INFRASTRUCTURE WE DID WANT TO EMPHASIZE WITH THAT I THINK FORT PIERCE HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF SAYING WITH WE BUILD PARKING STRUCTURES WE BUILD THEM WITH ARCHITECTURAL TREPGT LIKE THE ONE YOU HAVE HERE BUT ALSO YOU KNOW LINING THAT WITH GROUND FLOOR RETAIL IS IMPORTANT AS YOU'RE GOING TO PLACE THAT PARKING PRODUCTION ACROSS FROM THE GARAGE BUT YOU CAN START TO SEE THE SENSE OF A RIVAL THAT COULD TAKE SHAPE WITH THE PARK AND PARKING FACILITY. I MENTIONED THE COLONNADE THAT PROVIDES SHADE AND YOU HAD CAN SEE HOW THAT NOT ONLY SPORTS MARKETS AND VENDORS BUT ALSO PLAYING CHESS OR DOMINOS IN THE PARK AND PROVIDING THAT SHADE THAT FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE EVENTS 24/7 SO TO BE ABLE TO LAYER THAT TO HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE PARK THAT'S GOING TO SUPPORT BIG EVENTS BUT ALSO BE FUNCTIONAL WHEN WE ARE NOT HAVING EVENTS. 
          THIS IS THEN INTO THE INTERIOR, YOU SEE SOME OF THOSE TENTS AND THE ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE WITHIN THE PLAZA AGAIN THE MIX OF ACTIVITIES SO YOU SEE THE TREES AND THAT MORE NATURAL EXPERIENCE AS WELL AS THE SPLASH PAD THERE TO THE RIGHT, THE SPONGE AND SO THAT'S A TERM IN LANDSCAPE THESE DAYS IS RECOGNIZING NEEDS FOR RESILIENCE AND TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE NATURAL ENVIRONMENTS AND FUNCTION AS A CIVIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND HELP WITH STORM WATER. AGAIN WE TALKED ABOUT EMBRACEING THE WATERFRONT YOU KNOW I TALKED ABOUT THE GREEN LAWN. 
          I ALSO WANT TO FOCUS ON IT'S NOT A STAGE BUT IT CAN OPERATE AS A STAGE AS YOU SEE ENJOYING THAT LAWN CONCERT BUT BY NOT PUTTING A BACK TO IT YOU COULD HAVE AN EVENT YOU KNOW ON THE LAWN AND YOU COULD HAVE YOU KNOW PERFORMERS FACING THAT WAY BUT THEN ALSO IT COULD BE FLIPPED AND YOU COULD HAVE EVENTS THAT ARE FACING THE MARKET. SO AGAIN ANOTHER FLEXIBLE SPACE WITH PING PONG TABLES THERE AND AGAIN, SHOWING THAT ADDITIONAL ACCESS TO THE THERE'S A GREAT ENVIRONMENTAL STORY ONE THING NOT PREDOMINANTLY FEATURED WE TALKED ABOUT PROVIDING ENVIRONMENTAL CGI AND HE HAS A GREAT IDEA EXTENDING THAT STORY ALONG THE WATERFRONT UP TO THE MARINA BUT WE HAD PROPOSED PLANNING ADDITIONAL OYSTER BEDS THAT HAVE BEEN EFFECTIVE HERE AND ELSE WHERE AND HELPING CLEAN WATERWAYS SO AGAIN WE CAN TAKE THIS NOT ONLY AS A FISHING EXPERIENCE AS AN EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE AND JUST OVERALL ACCESS TO THE WATER. 
          SO AGAIN YOU FOE LOOKING AT THE PARK TODAY, AND THEN TAKING 
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ANOTHER AERIAL VIEW OF WHAT IT COULD BECOME THROUGH ADVANCEMENT OF THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN. THE LAST THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WE CAN GET INTO AS MUCH DETAIL AS WOULD YOU LIKE BUT YOU KNOW WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT A SCHEDULE AND WE THINK YOU KNOW NEXT STEPS THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO MANAGE THE SYSTEM A AND THE FEASIBILITY THAT NEEDS TO GO NOW THAT WE HAVE OPPONENTS TO THE PARK DESIGN IN TERMS ABOUT SHIFTING THE ROAD THERE'S MORE DETAIL COST ESTIMATE SO YOU GET ACCURATE PICTURE IT WAS GOING ON AS WELL AS LOOKING AT THE MUNICIPAL FINANCING OPTIONS FOR THAT. 
          THE AND THEN ADVANCEING INTO THAT DESIGN BUT I THINK THAT CAN GO CONCURRENTLY WITH DOING SOME UPGRADES TO PARKING MANAGEMENT. 
          BUT THE OTHER THING I WANT TO FOCUS IS WE BELIEVE THE PARK COULD BE CONSTRUCTED IN FOUR PHASES THE FIRST ONE CLOSER TO IF YOU SEE NUMBER 3 ON THE TOP - AND THE BOTTOM IS THAT THE GARAGE WOULD COME EITHER BEFORE OR CONCURRENTLY WITH THAT FIRST PHASE OF THE PARK. SO WE ARE PROVIDING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE CONCURRENT WITH THE NEW A PLENTY. 
          AND THEN, LASTLY, WE DO REALIZE THAT THE CRA IS GOING TO SUNSET IN 2042 SO THE PARK WILL BE BUILT BY THEN AND ENJOYED BY MANY BUT THERE AN ON GOING MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS COST THAT WILL NEED TO BE TAKEN OVER BY THE CITY IN 2042. 
          NOW OF COURSE, THERE WILL BE MORE REVENUE FOR THAT AS THAT TIFF GOES BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND BUT ALSO WE BELIEVE AS WE DESIGNATED IN THAT PLAN THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A CATALYTIC PROJECT FOR DOWNTOWN AND WE SHOULD SEE SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN TAX REVENUE TO SUPPORT THOSE ONGOING MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS. SO WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS. 
          I'M EXCITED TO PRESENT THIS TODAY AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY 
          QUESTIONS Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE. >> QUESTIONS? 
          COMMENTS? >> I JUST HAD A BRIEF QUESTION COMMENT. BACK TO THAT FISHING PIER, I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THAT, AND THIS AREA HERE. 
          ARE YOU SUGGESTING PROPOSING THAT ACTIVE FISHING GOING ON HERE? I'M LOOKING THAT IN CONTEXT TO TYING THAT TOGETHER AND I'M NOT SURE THAT MIX IS APPROPRIATE WITH LEISURE. I CAN CERTAINLY SEE OBSERVATION AND KIDS THERE. I'M THINKING OF PEOPLE AND THEIR ABILITY TO TRY TO CAST OUT AND UNFORTUNATELY CATCHING A KID RUNNING BY OR WHATEVER, I'M NOT SURE. 
          MIX BUT WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT HERE ON THE MIX SO I FULLY UNDERSTAND IT? WE HAVE A FISHING PIER THAT'S A COUPLE YARDS DOWN RANGE. IT'S JUST FISHING, IT'S NOT 
          TOURISM AND LEISURE. >> WELL, SO YOU KNOW, AS I THINK THE SLIDE SAYS, THIS WAS A PROVISION AS A FISHING DECK. 
          THAT'S CERTAINLY A POLICY DECISION THAT Y'ALL CAN MAKE. 
          I THINK IF WE ARE GOING TO ALLOW FISHING ON THOSE, IT NEEDS TO BE CLEAR THAT IT'S EITHER ALLOWED OR NOT ALLOWED. 
          >> RIGHT. >> AND CONSISTENT AND I THINK WE HAVE, YOU KNOW THERE'S A CERTAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF PIERS THAT HAVE FISHING ON IT AND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A RISK AND YOU DO NEED TO BE CAREFUL IF YOU'RE GOING TO WALK OUT THERE. 
          SO AGAIN THIS WAS ENVISIONED. I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN, YOU KNOW WITH THAT. YOU KNOW, I THINK IN THIS PICTURE THEY'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF SEPARATION SO THE GUY WITH THE KID IS A LITTLE FURTHER FROM THE FERN THAT WOULD BE FISHING OUT THERE SO COULD YOU SIGN THAT FISHING ON ONE SIDE NOT ON THE OTHER? POSSIBLY BUT YEAH IT'S A 
          CONSIDERATION. >> OKAY. 
          >> SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. >> WE CAN HAVE MORE DISCUSSION WITH MY COLLEAGUES BUT I JUST WANTED TO CALL THAT OUT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TOO BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR DOWN THE PATH PEOPLE THINKING THIS AND WE HAVE PRO VS. NO FISHING AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THAT BUT I AGREE GETTING PEOPLE CLOSER TO THE WATER SO THEY CAN HAVE AN EXPERIENCE AND MAYBE TAKE ON SOME OBSERVATION AS IS WARRANTED. 
          >> COMMISSIONER, ON THAT POINT TOO, MANY PEOPLE IN THE RENAISSANCE, AND IS THAT IN FRONT. 
          RENAISSANCE, CHEYENNE? >> IT ISN'T TOWARD THAT DIRECTION. IT'S NOT DIRECT LID IN FRONT OF. 
          >> YOU KNOW MANY OF THEM OBJECT TO THE FISHING ALONG MELODY LANE 
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EVEN THOUGH PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT FOR A CENTURY OR MORE AND SAY THAT THE FISHING IS BETTER THERE THAN AT THE PIER. 
          RIGHT? SO, IT'S A MINE OR POINT BUT IF THERE WERE IF THERE WERE A FISHING PIER THERE MIGHT NOT BE FISHING. THE COMMISSIONER GAINES. 
          >> MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. 
          AS A FISHERMAN. >> TELL US. 
          >> FISH ARE GETTING SMART TO TO HAVE TO WHERE ALL THE LINES ARE, SO IF THEY'RE NOT BITING AT THAT TIME PIER, THEY'RE MOVING DOWN TO MELODY LANE. THEY GO MOVE TO MELANIE LANE AND THEY GOOLD CRABBY'S AND EVIDENCE WHERE THEY SAY NO FISHING. YOU WALK BY BEHIND THERE YOU SEE SNOOK THERE BECAUSE NO ONE IS FISHING THERE SO WE CAN DISCUSS THIS HOW TO DO IT TONIGHT, WHERE WILL WE PUT THIS? WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MONITORING BECAUSE SOMEBODY WILL RUN OUT THERE THROW OUT A LINE CATCH A OFFICIAL AND RUN. 
          THAT'S HOW IT WORKS AND WE DO THAT BUT I WOULD PREFER MORE OF OBSERVATION, SINCE WE GOT THE WHOLE FAMILY THING DOWN THERE YOU KNOW OBSERVATION OR CERTAIN DAYS OF FISHING, SO THE FAMILIES KNOW SO CERTAIN DAYS OF FISHING BUT THAT'S HOW IT WORKS SO WHERE EVER WE SAY THE FISHING IS THE FISH ARE GOING TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE FISHERMEN. THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. 
          OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, WHAT TYPE OF MATERIAL ON THE COLONNADE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? I KNOW WE DO LIVE IN FLORIDA AND WE HAVE THOSE CERTAIN MONTHS THAT WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT HAVE STRONG WINDS AND SO IF WE PUT SOMETHING UP IS IT SOMETHING WE WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE DOWN BEFORE A STORM OR DO WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT UP AND CROSS OUR FINGERS THAT IT STAYS UP? 
          >> SO, AGAIN, THIS CONCEPTUAL LEVEL WE DID NOT GET INTO SPECIFIC MATERIALS BUT THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING AS YOU ADVANCE DESIGN THAT SHOULD BE A PRIORITY. 
          I AGREE. >> SO JUST TRYING TO SAVE COST BECAUSE IF IT'S SOMETHING WE HAD CAN TAKE DOWN AND PUT BACK UP AFTER THE STORM I WOULD RATHERED DO THAT INSTEAD OF REPLACING. 
          OKAY TOO YOU KNOW THE NETS AT THE GOLF COURSE ARE DESTROYED EVERY TIME. RIGHT. 
          EXACTLY. THE POINT. 
          >> ANYBODY ELSE? COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. 
          >> OKAY, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THIS PLAN MINUTE TIMES PARKING COMMUNITY HAS BEEN PRESENTED WITH IT, MY PRIMARY CONCERN HERE IS WHEN THE ORIGINAL DRAFT CAME OUT, IT WAS REFERRED TO AS THE MARINA SQUARE PROJECT. 
          BUT IT DIDN'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE MARINA. 
          WELL, NOW THAT'S CHANGED, THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT EXPANDING THEIR UNDERTAKING THEIR SERVICES TO INCLUDE VETERANS PARK WHERE WE WOULD DEVELOP SOME OF THE ASSETS THEY WERE LOOKING TO PUT INTO MARINA SQUARE SO I'M AN ADVOCATE OF THAT. 
          I'M STILL CONCERNED ABOUT ACCESSING THE MARINA BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY IN THAT GENERAL AREA, ACCORDING TO THIS PLAN BUT I KNOW THAT IT'S SUBJECT TO CHANGE AS WELL. SO, I THINK THOUGH I BROUGHT UP AT THE LAST MEETING OR THE MEETING BEFORE THAT THE CRIMINAL COMPONENT HERE IS IF WE'RE GOING ALONG WITH OR CLOSE TO WHAT THEY'RE SUGGESTING AND I GET, THIS IS A RENDERING BASICALLY RIGHT NOW BUT ONE OF THE KEY COMPONENTS OF THIS IS THAT IF THIS CONSTRUCTION IS STARTED ON THIS PLAN IF IT WAS SUBSEQUENTLY APPROVED WE NEED TO HAVE THE PARKING ISSUE RESOLVED PRIOR TO THAT OR SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH THAT BECAUSE WE CAN'T GOAD ELIMINATE A COUPLE HUNDRED PARKING SPACES IN NAIRN SQUARE AND SAY TOUGH THAT'S JUST LIFE. SO I COME BACK AROUND. 
          I KNOW I'M VERY PARKING-CENTRIC AS CHAIRMAN OF THE PARKING COMMITTEE FOR YEARS IT JUST STICKS IN YOUR HEAD BUT THE THOFT PARKING COMMITTEE IS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE SHOVELS IN THE GROUND AND A PARKING LOT UNDER CONSTRUCTION PRIOR TO RIPPING AWAY 200 SPACES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA SO I COME BACK TO THE CON SET OF APPROVING THE COST EX-PENT TOUR OR RFP TO GET PLANS DRAWN FOR THE GARAGE READY FORWARD CONSTRUCTION, NOT JUST RENDERING AND THINGS THIS NATURE A FULL SET OF CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS THAT CAN BE PERMITTED AND GET BIDS ON THIS BECAUSE WE CAN'T START THIS WITHOUT HAVING TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION THE NET 
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EFFECTS TO THE BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN WHEN THIS GETS BULLDOZED AND EVERYTHING BEING TORN UP DOWN HERE IT'S GOING TO BE PROBLEMATIC AND WE CAN'T PUT OUR BUSINESSES OUT OF BUSINESS BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD A LACK OF PARKING. 
          IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO BE SURE THAT WE ARE GOING TO PROVIDE ATTEMPTED PIERRETY SOLUTION OR A PERMANENT SOLUTION. A GARAGE IS THE PERMANENT SOLUTION. SO HAVING SAID THAT, I APPLAUD THE EFFORTS. THIS WAS DISCUSSED AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SESSIONS, AND YOU KNOW MY INPUT ON THIS IS PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD. SLY NNEDI MISS ANYTHING OF 
          CONCERN? >> NO I THINK YOU COVERED IT. 
          AND AM CHAIR, COMMISSIONER, I THINK THAT'S WHAT GEORGE HAS EXPLAINED IN THE TIMELINE HOW HE'S LAID THAT OUT WITH THAT IN MIND A THE PARK HAS TO BE PHASED. 
          LET'S BACK UP. YOU'RE RIGHT COMMISSIONER THIS IS CONCEPTUAL. WE'RE NOT EVEN TO DESIGN YET. 
          THIS IS TO ACCEPT A CONCEPTUAL PLAN. 
          FROM HERE WE COULD POSSIBLY IF YOU GUYS ARE IN AGREEMENT MOVED INTO LIKE INTERIM PHASE WHERE WE FURTHER THE DESIGN ON THE PARK AS WELL AS THE PARKING GARAGE. NOW THAT WE KNOW WE KNOW WE NEED TO SHIFT THE DRIVE BUILD OUT THE DESIGN FOR THE PARKING GARAGE AND MOVE INTO A PHASE ED CONSTRUCTION APPROACH. 
          GEORGE LAID OUT WE WOULD POTENTIALLY START PHASE ONE BEING ON THE WATERFRONT TO NOT IMPACT THAT PARKING WHILE WE START GARAGE CONSTRUCTION EASTERN SIDE SO I THINK YOU COVERED IT COMMISSIONER. YES. 
          >> SO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LEARNED AGAIN THIS MORNING AT THE CHAMBER BREAKFAST IS THE MOST VISITED SPOT IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY IS DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE. AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT. 
          >> SECOND THE MARINA. >> YES. 
          SHE DIDN'T GO INTO THE SECOND, BUT I KNOW THAT WE BEAT OUT THE METS. SO, WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT HURTS, THE BUSINESSES AND WHAT THE ATTRA TRACKS OF THE TO FRONT. WE HAD NEED TO BE VERY COGNIZANT. I LIKE YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT MODIFY MAXIMIZE, THOSE SEEM TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF AN EASIER TASK THAN FINDING THE MONEY TO BUILD A GARAGE AND THE CHANGES THAT. I DO FEEL LIKE THAT THERE'S A LOT GOING ON HERE. THERE'S A LOT GOING ON. 
          I'M NOT SURE. I THINK THAT PROBABLY WHAT YOU HEARD IN YOUR INPUT WAS THEY WANTED THINGS FOR FAMILIES, BUT I DON'T THINK RIGHT NOW DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE AS A FAMILY DESTINATION, AND MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO -- MAYBE I NEED TO RETHINK BUT HAVING A PLAYGROUND AS WELL AS A DOG PARK, THE BEST KEPT NOT SECRET IS DOGS ARE AT MARINA SQUARE AND THEY ARE. SO PEOPLE THAT LIVE OPEN BOTH HAVE DOGS. THE FARMERS MARKET IN AN EARLIER PHASE WE VALIANTLY TRIED TO RESTRICT THE DOGS AND WERE TOTE LID TOTALLY UNSUCCESSFUL. SO PERHAPS THE DOG PARK IS A GOOD IDEA. BUT JUST SEEMS TO HAVE HAD A -- TO HAVE A LOT GOING ON BUT MR. KRAMER WHEN WE TALKED ONE OF THE THINGS YOU SAID STUCK WITH ME THAT SO MANY PLACES ARE HAVING THE KIND OF DOWNTOWN THAT PEOPLE GO AND CAN DO A LOT OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS AND IF WE DON'T KIND OF FRESHEN IT UP AND KEEP UP, WE WON'T BE THE NUMBER ONE DESTINATION PERHAPS. 
          SO WE NEED TO THINK BEYOND, EVEN THOUGH MANY PEOPLE SAY WHAT'S WRONG WITH IT NOW WE KIND OF NEED TO REFRESH IT AND ENHANCE IT. SO, I'M WILLING TO BE CONVINCED. 
          ANYBODY ELSE? COMMISSIONER. 
          >> MAD AMOUNT  -- MADAM MAYOR. >> YES. 
          >> I CONCUR WITH MR. BROAD RICK THAT PARKING GARAGE HAS TO BE FIRST, CONCEPTUAL PLANS WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST READY FOR PERMITTING READY TO BUILD. CAN YOU GET BACK TO YOUR TIMELINE? LOOKED LIKE YOU HAD 5 MONTHS FOR BUILD. SO YOU HAVE FROM JULY TO JUNE. 
          ALMOST A YEAR. >> SO, WE ARE SHOWING THE 
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COMMENCEMENT OF THE PARKING GARAGE. 
          WE AREN'T SHOWING AN ACTUAL COMPLETION DATE ON IT. 
          >> IT'S 18 MONTHS CONSTRUCTION. >> 2028. 
          SORRY. >> OH, OKAY. 
          SO I SHARE WITH YOU MY THOUGHTS WHEN YOU GAVE THEM TO ME IN OUR MEETING AND WHILE THE PARK IS BEAUTIFUL, CONCEPTUALLY IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT 15YEARS TOO SOON FOR FORT PIERCE. 
          I THINK WE NEED DOWNTOWN LIVING. I THINK WE NEED THE PARKING GARAGE HAS TO BE DONE UTILIZE SPACE NOW AS BEING UTILIZED AS FREQUENTLY AS IT POSSIBLY CAN BUT AGAIN WE NEED TO HAVE THE PARKING AND BACK TO THE FISHING IDEA THERE'S STILL THE BRIDGE THAT WAS PROVIDED TO TPO AS A QUESTION COUPLE THREE YEARS AGO AND THAT WAS TO TAKE PORTIONS OF THE OLD NORTH BRIDGE ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDE TAKING THE MIDDLE OUT AND USING THAT AS AN ARTIFICIAL REEF BUT SOMEBODY NEEDED TO TAKE THE MONEY TO ACTUALLY MAINTAIN SO FDOT IS WILLING TO GIVE TO IT THE CITY OR THE COUNTY OR THE FPRA AND YOU CAN FUNNEL AND FOCUS PEOPLE TO THOSE AREAS FOR FISHING RATHER THAN DOWNTOWN WHERE THEY CURRENTLY ARE. LOT BETTER FISHING ON THE NORTH 
          BRIDGE. >> I AGREE. 
          >> BUT IF WE MADE IT MORE ACCEPTABLE FOR THE FISHERMEN WITH ACCESS PARKING AND SO ON THAT MIGHT BE AN ALTERNATIVE TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HEAR EVERY SINGLE WEEK FROM THE FOLKS THAT LIVE DOWN THERE AND THOSE WHO VISIT. 
          SO I JUST THROW THAT OUT AS AN IDEA BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY AND I NODE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT DEMOING AND OPENING THE [INDISTINCT] BRIDGE NOW SO THAT'S COMING SOONER OR LATER AND MIGHT BED A CONVERSATION WE WANT TO HAVE. 
          >> YES. I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN FISHING DOWN THERE, DOWNTOWN FOR A LONG TIME. 
          >> BUT YOU HAVE TO BE RESPECTFUL AND THAT'S NOT HAPPENING. 
          >> NO. I THINK INDIAN RIVER DRIVE IS A STATE ROAD. IT'S A STATE ROAD, I THINK. 
          COUNTY ROAD. >> IT'S A CITY ROAD FROM SAVANNAH TO SEA D'S WEIGHED DRIVE. 
          FROM SAVANNAH SOUTH. >> I KNOW WE TAKE CARE OF IT, BUT I JUST THINK IT MIGHT BE A BIGGER PROBLEM THAN WE THINK ABOUT MOVING THAT ROAD. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE. 
          >> THE COORDINATION. >> YES, RIGHT. 
          >> ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? OKAY? ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD MISS HONIDGE OR MR. CLAIMER? 
          >> GREAT POINTS. AS CHEYENNE SAID, I THINK SAID WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THE NEXT STEPS AND RECOGNIZE IT'S A BIGGER PROJECT NOW BUT IT NEEDED TO BE A BIGGER PROJECT BECAUSE WE HEARD CONSISTENTLY THE CONCERNS OF THE PARKING AND SO WE WANTED TO PLAN IN CONCERT WITH THAT AND I THINK IN ADDITION TO CHEYENNE TALKED ABOUT MORE REFINED DESIGN BUT I THINK OF EQUAL IMPORTANCE IS DETAILED COST ESTIMATES TO UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW THERE'S THREE MAJOR COMPONENTS, THE PARK THE SHIFTING OF THE ROAD IF THAT IS THE THING AND THEN THE PARKING GARAGE SO WE NEED TO HAVE THOSE COST ESTIMATES VERY CLEAR SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT POTENTIAL THE FINANCIAL COMMITMENT IS AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW ON THE MUNICIPAL FINANCE SIDE, WE HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION EARLIER TODAY WITH CITY MANAGER, YOU KNOW ABOUT THE BONDING CAPACITY ONE IN THE CRA AND WHAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO FUND. THIS WE DO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A CAPACITY FOR THAT IN OUR INITIAL ASSESSMENT BASED ON PROJECTED RETIREMENT OF EXISTING DEBT. 
          BUT WHAT THAT OVERALL COST OF THE PROJECT IS THE WHAT THE COST OF FINANCING IS AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO YOU FOR THE POLICY DECISION YOU IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. 
          >> I THINK YOU'RE HEARING AT LEAST THREE OF US AND MAYBE THAT WE ARE AIMED INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT IF THAT ROAD CAN BE MADE AND FINDING OUT ABOUT THE PARKING GARAGE AND LOOKS LIKE 
          YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. >> JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE COMMENT. WITH MR. KRAMER AND MISS HONIDGE I WANT THEM TO KNOW THIS IS PRIMARILY FOR RECREATIONAL USE AND THIS COULD BE A REVENUE PRODUCING SOURCE SO I DON'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT OF HAVING RETAIL LEASES PARKING FEES GROUND LEASES WARP FRONT CONCESSIONS I WANT TO KEEP IN MIND THIS CAN BE 
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A GREAT REVENUE GENERATEERED FOR US DOWN THE ROAD IF IT HAPPENS TO COME TO THE GENERAL FUND AND WE HAVE MAINTENANCE OF IT SO WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT BEING A REVENUE PRODUCING ASSET WELL AND BECAUSE OF A RECREATIONAL STANDPOINT WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET PROPERTY TAXES NO, SIR SEEK COMMERCIAL REVENUE SO WE LOOK AT THE COST ESTIMATES AND WHAT IT COULD POSSIBLY BE WE NEED TO ADD RETAIL COMMERCIAL COMPONENT TO THINK ABOUT BRINGING RECEIVE NEWS DOWN THE ROAD TO THIS PROJECT SO WE CAN MAINTAIN THE PROJECT AND OTHER AMENITIES ALONG THE WAY. 
          JUST A THOUGHT. >> THAT'S A VERY GOOD THOUGHT. 
          IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE HAD NEED TO HAVE A BUSINESS PLAN. 
          >> BECAUSE THIS SEEMS TO BE MORE RECREATION. 
          15YEARS, FIVE YEARS FROM NOW AS THE CITY GROWS THE DOWNTOWN GROWS AND EVEN LEAVE AT THIS TIME WAY THAT IT IS, WE SHOULD BE THINKING OF REVENUE PRODUCING ASPECTS BECAUSE IT'S A JEWEL. 
          TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE FOR RECREATIONAL USE SO THAT WAS MY TAKE WHEN WE DISCUSSED IT EARLIER AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE FINANCING ASPECTS BUT I DON'T SEE THAT ELEMENT TODAY SO BE 
          MINDFUL OF THAT. >> I THINK WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS THAT WE ARE INTERESTED IN GETTING A FIXED IDEA OF THE GARAGE. WHERE IT WILL BE. 
          CAN WE MOVE THE ROAD. HOW MUCH IT WILL COST S. THAT 
          RIGHT? >> YES, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE SAYING. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          >> OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          >> MOTION ON THIS? >> MOTION YES INTO I PROVE 
          APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 267-11. >> SECOND. 
          >> MOTION AND SECOND. THE CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. 
          [A.  Accept CRA Advisory Committee's recommendation for Selection of Artists and Properties for FY26 FPRA Mural Program as follows:  Shannen Mythen for 605 S US Hwy 1 (Elks Lodge), Inna Parkhomenko for 505 N 7th St. (Dreamchaser Preschool), Sitki Dogan for 402 S 5th St. (Mervis) and Pete Koza for 210 S Indian River Drive (St. Andrew's Episcopal Academy).]
          MR. CHEST. >> YOU HAVE A LEAD IN FOR THIS? 
          >> IT APPEARS MS. DELGADO HAS A PRESENTATION FOR NEWS IS YES, 
          THIS IS FUN. >> IT'S FUN LOOKING AT PICTURES. 
          >> THIS IS THE BEST PART OF THE MEETING. 
          MADAM MAIRPD AND THE BOARD I'M PLEASED TO BRING THE PROPOSED MURAL ARTISTS FOR 2006. WHEN WE BEGAN WE STARTED IN THE PEACOCK ARTS DISTRICT. LAST YEAR WE MOVED TO INCLUDE DOWNTOWN. THIS FISCAL YEAR WE INCLUDED ALL [INDISTINCT] DISTRICT WITH A BUDGET OF $100,000. 
          IN MARCH I PUT OUT A PROPERTY OWNER APPLICATION. 
          WE RECEIVED FOUR APPLICATIONS AND THE CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEE EVALUATED ALL OF THEM, AND BECAUSE WE HAD ENOUGH MONEY IN THE BUDGET, THEY DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ALL FOUR SO WE HAVE ST. TAN INTRODUCE  -- ANDREWS AND DREAM CHASER FREE SCHOOL. 
          IN APRIL I PUT OUT A CALL FOR ARTISTS, AND THE CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEE EVALUATED THOSE ARTISTS AND DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ARTIST PETE KOZA FOR ST. TAN INTRODUCE -- WE ARE WE HAVE ST. ANDREWS, WE HAVE PROPOSED EDWARD 20,000 FOR THE MURRELL AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THE PROPOSED MURRELL 
          FROM MR. KOZA. >> DO THE BUILDING OWNERS HAVE 
          INPUT INTO THE CHOICE. >> THEY GIVE ME A THEME WHEN THEY APPLY SO I PUT THAT OUT IN THE CALL FOR ARTISTS. 
          >> OKAY AND MOVE FORWARD. FOR DREAM CHASE TER SCHOOL WE HAVE PARKHOMENKO WITH $8,000 BUDGET THERE. 
          MERVIS CAFE AND THE GRILL, DOGAN, MY FAVORITE ONE. 
          >> YOU KNOW, THEY JUST CELEBRATED THEIR 25TH 
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ANNIVERSARY AND INSIDE THEY HAD I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS A MURRELL OR SOME KIND OF PROP WITH THE RED CAR AND THE VERY SIMILAR -- 
          YES, RIGHT. >> AND WE HAVE PROPOSED THERE FOR $18,000 FOR THAT MURAL. LAST IS ELKS LODGE WITH SHANNEN MYTHEN AND THAT'S GOING TO BE TWO WALLS AS YOU CAN SEE AND 
          THAT ONE IS $15,000. >> AND THIS ELKS IS CELEBRATING 
          ITS 100TH ANNIVERSARY THIS YEAR. >> YES. 
          AND IF APPROVED TODAY, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE AGREEMENTS AND BRING THEM BEFORE THE BOARD IN JUNE AND I HAVE A TIMELINE FOR ALL FOUR ARTISTS TO START JUNE 20TH AROUND THAT TIME SO WE CAN GET THAT COMPLETED. THAT'S IT. 
          >> COMMISSIONERS. >> I LOVE THEM. 
          I LOOKED AT THE OTHER ONES, TOO. >> I THINK IT'S YOU KNOW, THESE ARE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE DEDICATED FOR OUR ART PROGRAM, SO THEY'RE KIND OF EARMARKED FOR THAT. ARE WE GOING TO GET A MOTION? 
          >> YES. >> I MOVE APPROVAL OF ACCEPTANCE 
          OF THIS REPORT. >> SECOND. 
          >> MOTION AND SECOND. CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. 
          >> 
          [B.  Incubate Neighborhood Center (INC) Update (Information Only)]
NICE JOB. NEXT ITEM IS INCUBATE 
          NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER UPDATE. >> MR. CHEST. 
          MISS HONIDGE WILL COME. I DON'T KNOW THE APPROACH YOU'LL LIKE TO TAKE. WE DID RECEIVE A PROJECT SCHEDULE I BELIEVE IF YOU WANT TO START WITH THAT. 
          I'D REALLY LIKE TO PROCEED BUT WE DID GET SOME UPDATED 
          INFORMATION. >> SINCE THE AGENDA WAS 
          PUBLISHED? >> NO. 
          FROM THE LAST MEETING WE HAD. >> FROM THE LAST MEETING. 
          >> FROM VARIOUS DOCUMENTS. YOU TELL US, WHAT MAKES SENSE TO 
          YOU? >> WANT TO BRING UP THE LET THERE WAS SENT, FROM THAT STANDPOINT? 
          >> SURE, YES SIR. >> THEN PERHAPS WE CAN MOVE TO 
          WHAT WAS ACTUALLY SUBMITTED. >> OKAY, SURE. 
          SO THIS WAS THE LETTER THAT MR. CHEST SENT AS A FOLLOWUP TO OUR LAST FPRA MEETING SUGGESTING A DETAILED SCOPE OF WORK PROJECT SCHEDULE COST BREAKDOWN AND FUNDING CAPACITY AND UPDATE ON THE PERMIT STATUS AND PLAN, AND WE RECEIVED RESPONSE LETERED FROM INK, WHICH IS HERE AND THEY ADDRESSED ALL THE ITEMS THAT WERE REQUESTED IN THE LETTER. ALONG WITH A CLARIFICATION ON THE SECOND FLOOR. IT WAS REPORTED THAT THE SECOND FLOOR WAS TO BE REMOVED AND THEY CLARIFIED THAT THEY WERE NOT PLANNING TO REMOVE THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE SECOND FLOOR NOT HIM NAILTDING ALL THOSE IMPROVEMENTS RATHERED RELOCATEING THE OFFICE FROM THE SECOND FLOOR BACK TO FIRST FLOOR AND ELIMINATING 88 BATHROOMS. THEY WENT THROUGH ALL THE FIRST FLOOR IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAD BEEN MADE AS WELL AS WHAT THEY PLAN TO DO ON THE SECOND FLOOR, WHICH IS LISTED HERE. 
          THEY ALSO SUPPLIED A SEPARATE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE WHICH WE CAN OPEN AFTER THIS. THEY KNOW WITHOUT KNOWING WITH THE HVAC WILL BE COMPLETED IT'S HARD TO GIVE A RELIABLE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE AND AS WELL THE ROOF WAS NOT INVOLVED IN THEIR ORIGINAL PERMIT OR THEIR ORIGINAL SCOPE OF WORK. 
          THEY OUT LINE THE HVAC RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE LANDLORD. AS I MENTIONED, WE WILL GO THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE THAT THEY PROVIDED. 
          OH, THIS IS ABOUT THE MOLD ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE REMEDIED BASED ON THE LEAKS. OKAY TALKING ABOUT PERMITS. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO READ. 
          THIS IT'S ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA AS WELL. 
          IT'S ABOUT LEASE PERFORMANCE AND THE FINANCIAL COMMITMENT STATING COVERING THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE COMPLETION WORK TO DIELT AND HAVE DEMONSTRATED CAPACITY AND GOOD FAITH PERFORMANCE UNDER THE LEASE. AGAIN? OF THE SCOPE IS THE LANDLORD'S RESPONSIBILITY BASED ON THAT 
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AMENDMENT THAT WAS EXECUTED SO COULDN'T GIVE START AND FINISH DATES FOR THOSE BUT THIS IS WHAT THEY PROVIDED. 
          AND THESE ARE THE LETTERS THAT WERE ALSO ATTACHED THAT CLARIFY THAT SECOND FLOOR. THESE ARE REVISION LETERS THAT WERE SUBMITTED FROM THE ARCHITECT THAT TALK ABOUT WHAT WAS ACTUALLY BEING ELIMINATED VS. WHAT WAS PERCEIVED TO BE ELIMINATED AND THAT IS ALL AND WE WERE NOT PLANNING TO DO A PRESENTATION TONIGHT. IT WAS JUST FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES AS A FOLLOWUP TO OUR LAST MEETING JUST LOOKING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH YOU ALL THE YOU WISH OR HOW WILL YOU 
          PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD. >> MADAM CHAIR. 
          SO WHAT I WANT TO TRY TO DO, I THINK IN LIGHT OF PUBLIC COMMENTS AND SOME THINGS I HEARD IN LIGHT OF MY CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF AND IN LIGHT OF CONVERSATIONS I'VE MET WITH PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC I KIND OF HAVE A FEW ONS INVESTIGATIONS AND MAYBE HELP CLARIFY A FEW THINGS IF CAN I FOR ME AND FOR US AND RIGHT. SO WE DO KNOW THAT THERE IS THE A -- WE ARE STILL OPERATING UNDER THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT THAT WAS SIGNED WHICH CONVEYED THE PROPERTY OVER TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN POSSESSION IT, THE INCUBATE NEIGHBERHOOD AND WE HAVE THAT AND THAT'S ACTIVE. RIGHT? AND I'M HEARING BACK AND FORTH AND WHAT I NEED CLARITY ON IS A COUPLE OF THINGS. WE ARE THE LANDLORD. 
          WE REALIZE. BUT WAS I UNDERSTAND IS THAT WE ARE WAITING ON THE ACTUAL QUOTES FOR HVAC AND THE ROOF REPAIR. 
          AND SO I NEED TO UNDERSTAND FROM STAFF, ARE YOU IN POSSESSION OF WHATEVER WE NEED FROM A GOVERNMENT ENTITY FROM A QUOTE STANDPOINT SO THAT WE CAN EVALUATE THAT AND OBVIOUSLY YOU WOULD BRING THAT TO THIS BOARD SO THAT WE CAN MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHAT TO GO WITH AND TO EXPEND THOSE MONEYS BECAUSE AS I UNDERSTAND IT IS AS A LANDLORD, SINCE THEY HAVE ALREADY PULLED PERMITS UNDER THEIR AUSPICESES TO KEEP LINES CLEAN THERE WE NEED TO PROCESS OF COMING ALONG AS THE FINANCIAL PROVIDER OF THESE PARTICULAR FIX ELSE FOR THAT THE SO I NEED? CLARITY ON THIS AS FAR AS THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M SEEPING AS THE GAP HERE IS THAT THEY MAY HAVE AN EXPECTATION WE ARE GOING TO FIX IT BUT AS A GOVERNMENT ENTITY WE ARE NOT UNDER THAT CONTRACT TO PAY FOR IT BUT WE NEED QUOTES. 
          I NEED CLARITY HERE WHERE WE ARE, WHAT WE HAVE RECEIVED AND WHY IS THIS DELAYING THIS MOVING FORWARD. 
          >> MLGS HONIDGE. >> YES, SIR. 
          THE MADAM CHAIR, WE ARE UNDER REQUEST FOR QUOTES, I THINK WE RECEIVED THOSE. I THINK THE ISSUE NOW THE GAP ALWAYS YOU SAID IT, I THINK THAT'S A BETTER WAY OF SAYING IT IS HOW DO WE DO THAT IS IT A SEPARATE AGREEMENT? ARE WE AMENDING OUR LEASE AGREEMENT? ARE WE DOING A USE AGREEMENT? WE SPOKE ABOUT THAT AT THE LAST MEETING MORE IN TERMS OF LIKE AN OPERATING AGREEMENT, WE HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THAT. THE AMENDMENT DID OUTLINE AS WE HAVE RECAPPED THAT WE WOULD, IF APPROVED BY THE FPRA BOARD WITH PROPER BUDGETING THAT WE COULD DO THESE IMPROVEMENTS, HVAC MOLD ET CETERA IT'S JUST WHAT'S THE VEHICLE OF DOING THAT ARE WE STILL OPERATING UNDER THAT ORIGINAL LEASE AGREEMENT OR TRANSITIONING TO SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE NEED. 
          WE CAN DO A SEPARATE FUNDING AGREEMENT. 
          WE HAVE DRAFTED A VERSION OF THAT OF HOW THAT OPEN ARRANGEMENT WE HAVE HAD MEETINGS WITH PURCHASING. 
          >> OKAY. >> I THINK YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT THEY HAVE THIS PERMIT. I WOULD MAKE SENSE WE WOULD OPERATE UNDER THAT PERMIT. THEY HAVE THE MASTER CON TRACK TORMT I'M PROBABLY NOT SAYING THAT CORRECTLY INSTEAD OF PULLING A SEPARATE PERMIT UNDER THEM SO WE NEED A LITTLE DIRECTION FROM THE BOARD DO WE WANT TO PROCEED IN THAT DIRECTS OF EXPLORING THOSE DIFFERENCES OPTIONS F. WE WILLING TO DO THAT, LET'S DO IT. I THINK THAT'S THE GAP IS THAT 
          VEHICLE. >> SO I THINK THAT'S WAY WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS IS THAT WE JUST CAN'T GO AND WRITE A CHECK. IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE FOR GOVERNMENT AT THIS POINT. WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WITHIN STAT UNIT AND HAVING ELSE HOW WE CAN DO THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE GIVEN POSSESSION IN A CONTRACT TO ANOTHER ENTITY AND THEY PULL PERMITS ON THAT AND IT'S NOT JUST EASY FOR TO US DROP IN AC UNIT OR PUT IN A ROOF BECAUSE THAT REQUIRES A PERMIT TO BE 
          PULLED. >> RIGHT. 
          >> SO SOMEHOW WE ARE GOING TO NEED SOME LEGAL HELP TO GET THIS FIGURED OUT AS TO HOW TO DO THIS AND THEN WE HAVE TO ALSO 
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UNDERSTAND THE OTHER PART OF THE HOW IS, HOW MUCH IS THAT AND WHERE DO THOSE FUNDS COME FROM. THAT'S THE EASIER PART TO FIGURE 
          OUT. >> RIGHT. 
          >> THE HARDER PART IS HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY DO THIS AND THAT'S WHAT LEGAL IS GOING TO HAVE TO HELP AND WORK THROUGH THIS, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW. I JUST KNOW THAT I THINK THAT THAT'S THE GAP THAT WE HAVE AND THAT'S THE FRUSTRTION THAT I THINK THE PUBLIC DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE GOT TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT IN A PRETTY EXPEDITIOUS MANNER. 
          >> COMMISSIONER GAINES. >> RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. I READ ALL THIS STUFF SEVERAL TIMES. ALL RIGHT. 
          MY SIMPLE QUESTION, AS THE LANDLORD, ARE WE RESPONSIBLE FOR -- I KNOW WE'RE NOT EITHER PAYING OR FIXING THIS HVAC AND 
          ROOF. >> YES, THROUGH THE AMENDMENT THAT IS ON US. WITH YOUR APPROVAL. 
          >> WITH OUR APPROVAL. SO I GOT THAT CHECKED OFF. 
          SO I HEARD THAT HERE TONIGHT. SO, NOW WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR THE ROOF AND THE HVAC. 
          THAT'S THE HOLD UP. THAT'S THE GAP WHEN WE USE YOUR TERM, THE GAP. IS THAT THE HOLD UP HERE WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR IT OR BY STATUTE BY PUTTING ANOTHER PERMIT OR WHATEVER. THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING. 
          >> YET, MADAM CHAIR. GO AHEAD. 
          >> I WAS WONDERING. >> MR. CHEST. 
          >> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE AGREED TO PAY FOR IT BUT NOT TO HIRE THE CONTRACTOR FOR IT TO BE INSTALLED AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE CITY WAS SUPPOSED TO SUBMIT QUOTES AND WE WERE GOING TO APPROVE AND WE RECEIVED QUOTES THAT ARE HIGH AND WEIRD GIVING IT TO THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS. 
          THE THEY ARE SAYING THIS IS WAY OUT. 
          MARKET WE CAN'T PAY THIS PRICE SO WE WENT BACK AND SAID GIVE US QUOTES AND THAT'S WHEN THE BACK AND FOR THE BEGAN WITH THE QUOTES AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT QUOTE WE HAVE NOW WHETHER IT'S OUTDATED OR A CURRENT QUOTE BUT THAT WAS A ISSUE. 
          IT NEVER WAS A MONEY OR BUDGET ISSUE. 
          THE FUND ARE IDENTIFIED. THE FUND ARE AVAILABLE TO BE SPENT BUT WITH WHO IS THE QUOTES THERE WAS A QUESTION WHY SO HIGH AND IT CAME BACK MUCH LOWERER AND IT WAS BACK AND FORTH WITH THE QUOTES SO THE ISSUE WAS TO THE POINT MADE SAID THAT WE ARE NOT -- THE AGREEMENT DOESN'T REQUIRE TO US HIRE A CONTRACT AND INSTALL IT. THE AGREEMENT IS FOR US TO 
          REIMBURSE FOR THE INSTALLATION. >> DOES THAT INCLUDE THE UNIT AS WELL AS LABOR? ARE YOU SAYING THAT. 
          >> I'M SORRY. MADAM CHAIR. 
          WHAT WAS THAT? >> DOES IT INCLUDE THE UNIT AS 
          WELL AS THE LABOR. >> OH, YES. 
          SO THE AMENDMENT WHICH WE CAN PULL UP IS VERY VAGUE. 
          IT JUST SAYS THAT WE WOULD BE WILLING TO APPROVE OR WILLING TO DO THESE FOLLOWING IMPROVEMENTS HVAC ROOF LISTED IN BULLET POINT MANNER SUBJECT TO FUNDING AVAILABILITY AND YOUR APPROVAL. 
          WHETHER THAT WOULD BE REIMBURSED OR WHETHER WE WERE GOING TO PAY A CONTRACTOR DIRECTLY I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW. 
          SO REALLY THE GAP IS THE VEHICLE MECHANISM WHATEVER TERM YOU WANT TO USE, DOCUMENT THAT WE CAN PAY THROUGH PROCUREMENT REQUIREMENTS PAY THE SURRENDER PAY THE TENANT PULL OUR OWN PERMIT LIKE WHAT IS THE THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE TAKING AND WE DID A LOT OF RESEARCH TO EXPLORE THAT THE WE TALKED ABOUT TRAN SIGNATURESING AGAIN TO THAT USE AGREEMENT FOR DOING A SEPARATE FUNDING AGREEMENT. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE CURRENT LEASE BEING POTENTIALLY YOU KNOW OUT OF DATE, DOES THAT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT AGAIN SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. 
          IF YOU ALL WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THIS AGREEMENT AND WITH THIS TENANT I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE IMPROVEMENT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT IS TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          >> SO DOES STAFF HAVE A RECOMMENDATION? 
          >> I'M GOING TO CHIME IN. >> CHIME IN. 
          I WAS TEXTING. MY APOLOGIES. 
          JUST A COUPLE OF 30TOWN FOOT OBSERVATIONS HERE I'VE BEEN IN THIS BLINK MINUTE TIMES, I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES THERE IN DEPTH. BUT THE LEASE IS ONE ISSUE. 
          LET'S PUT THAT ASIDE FOR A SECOND. 
          LET'S TALK ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING CHEYENNE IS THAT THE MECHANISM HERE IS THAT THE TENANT SECURES THE SURRENDER WOULD OUR APPROVAL AS FAR AS FUNDING, AND WE PAY THE BILL. 
          >> THAT IS SOMETHING WE EXPLORED WITH THE FURG DEPARTMENT YES. 
          >> OKAY. I HAVE A CONCERN THERE. 
          A, IS IT CONTROL POINT. WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THE 
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TRENDER. SECONDLY, IF WE ARE GOING TO REPLACE THE ROOF WHICH I'M SURE NEED TO BE REPLACED THE VINTAGE OF THAT BUILDING NEEDS TO BE REPLACED NOT REPAIR AND A.C. 
          SYSTEM 23 WE ARE GOING TO ALLOW THE TENANT TO CONTRACT FOR THE WARREN TEE FOR THOSE PRODUCTS FLOW TO THE TENANT. 
          THEY FLOW TO WHOEVER THEY'RE CONTRACTING WITH. 
          AND THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE NEEDS TO BE IN CONTROL OF THOSE WARRANTIES SPECIALLY THE ROOF WARRANTY, I'LL EXPLAIN WHY. 
          THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING AS A BUILT UP ROOF ON IT, IT'S A FLAT ROOF. CONTRACTOR IS GOING TO COME OUT BE AWARE OF THE BID, TRIP THE ROOF REBUILD A NEW ROOF DEPENDING WHAT THE PRODUCT IS AND THERE'S SOME GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS AS FAR AS THAT'S CONCERNED, BUT THE MANUFACTURER ISSUES THE WARREN TEE. THEY STAND BEHIND THE SURRENDER. 
          THAT'S THE THEORY. A ROOFING CONTRACTOR'S WARRANTY, ARE WORTHLESS AND SIMPLY WORTHLESS AND WHAT WE NEED IS WE NEED THE MANUFACTURERS WARRANTY NOT ON THE A.C. EQUIPMENT BUT THE ROOFING ITSELF AND YOU CAN GET 25YEAR WHAT THEY CALL NDL, NO DOLLAR LIMIT WARRANTY SO IT'S WARRANTY THROUGH THE ENTIRE 25YEARS NOT A PERCENTAGE OF THE TIME. 
          YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH THE ROOF IT'S WARREN TEED AND THOSE ARE THE BIG SUPPLIERS THAT PRODUCE THIS PRODUCT ALLIED COMPANIES LIKE THAT THAT PRODUCE MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF ROOFING PRODUCT AND THEY HAVE WHAT THEY CALL GOLD STAR VENDORS THAT THEY ALLOW TO INSTALL THEIR PRODUCT AND ISSUE THIS 25YEAR WARRANTY AND WE HAVE MULTIPLE PROPERTIES THAT WERE ENGAGED WITH THESE WARRANTIES THAT ARE 15, 18, 20 YEARS OLD AND THE MANUFACTURER STILL STANDS BEHIND THEM. ION A PHENOMENAL PROGRAM BUT THAT WARRANTY WON'T FOLLOW FORT PIERCE'S OWNERSHIP IT WILL FOLLOW THE TENANT SO YEARS LATER THE TENANT IS GONE, YOU HAVE NO TIME-WARNERTY SO THAT INVESTMENT YOU JUST MADE GOES BY THE BOARD BECAUSE THEY WANT TO KNOW FIRST ON THE HVAC EQUIPMENT DID ANY OTHER CONTRACTOR TOUCH THAT EQUIPMENT? IF SO THE WARRANTY IS VOID. ON THE HVAC ONE YEAR WARRANTY FROM THE INSTALLER WORTHLESS. POTENTIAL TEN-YEAR WARRANTY FROM THE MANUFACTURER NEEDS TO BE SPECIFIED IN THE BID PARAMETERS THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR MANUFACTURERS WARRANT AT THIS TIME LONGEST TERM POSSIBLE LOWEST OR NO DEDUCTIBLE. 
          WE'RE GOING TO SPEND IN ORDER OF A MILLION DOLLARS ON THIS STUFF. 
          WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE PRICES ARE. 
          THOSE ARE BIG CHILLER UNITS. NOT MANY BUILDINGS HAVE THEM. 
          THIS ONE DOES AND CHILLY UNIT ARE SHOCKINGLY EXPENSIVE SO THE COMMENT WAS MADE WHAT ABOUT THESE PROPOSALS THAT WERE SOLICITED BEFORE THEY WERE TIE HIGH. 
          I'M DWELTING QUOTES ON PACKAGE STEPS. 
          WE ARE BUYING A LOT OF PRODUCT AND I'M SITTING THERE IN ABSOLUTE SHOCK WHEN I MADE EDWARD 3,000 FOR TWO YEARS AGO IS NOW SEVEN. SO THE PRICES COULD BE ACCURATE AND MUCH AS I HATE TO SAY THAT AND ROOFING MATERIAL IS OIL-BASED. WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE HAPPENING THERE SO OPPORTUNITIES GENERATED FROM OIL BASED THEY DON'T DO COAL TAR PITCH ROOFS MADE OUT OF COAL DIRECTIVIVE SO THESE PRICES YOU'RE GETTING COULD BE ACCURATE AND IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY, VERY COSTLY UNDERTAKING. SO HOW THIS HAS TO HAPPEN IS THE ROOF NEEDS TO GO ON FIRST IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE HVAC GUYS INSTALLING THEIR STANDS WHATEVER THEY NEED ON THE ROOF IN PREPARATION SLEEPERS WHATEVER THEY NEED TO COORDINATE TWROOFING COMPANY SO THERE NEEDS TO BE A PROJECT NRG COORDINATING THIS FROM THE CITY BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A SIMPLE INSTALLATION OF ROOF AND HVAC EQUIPMENT. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ELECTRICAL MECHANICAL ROOFING PERMITS ET CETERA THIS IS A SERIOUS 
          UNDERTAKING. >> I THINK YOU JUST MADAM CHAIR YOU CREATED ANOTHER JUGGER NAULT HERE AND THE LEGAL PART OF THIS IS WE HAVE A SIGNED AGREEMENT WHEN SOME ONE HAS POSSESSION OF THAT BUILDING BUT YET WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE SIGNED ON FOR WARRANTY WHICH YOU JUST BROUGHT UP. 
          >> TALK ABOUT THE LEASE FOR A SECOND. 
          I CONSIDER THE LEASE TO BE VOID. I THINK BOTH SIDES DO NOT HAVE CLEAN HANDS HERE. HOWEVER, NEITHER SIDE HAS, OR THEY ALL HAVE DIRTY HANDS, NOBODY HAS CLEAN HANDS. 
          A NEW LEASE WOULD NEED TO BE GENERATED IF WE GO THE LEASING ROUTE. I'M NOT SURE THAT GETS IN THE WHOLE RFP AND ALL THAT AS THE EXISTING TENANT BUT THEY'VE BEEN REMOVED FROM THE SPACE FOR CAUSE. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, A BREACH OF LEASE SO THE EXISTING LEASE IS IN BREACH SO A NEW LEASE WOULD HAVE TO BE CONCOCTED THAT INCLUDES THESE CONSTRUCTION EXCUSE AND THE ONLY THING I'M SUGGESTING TO YOU THE ROOF AND HVAC WE NEED TO HAVE CONTROL OF 
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          THAT. >> WHICH I AGREE WITH. 
          THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE BUT RIGHT NOW THE CURRENT SITUATION AS I UNDERSTAND IT I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE IN BREACH MUCH WHATEVER LEASE OR WHATEVER HERE. WE NEED SOME LEGAL ON THIS BIG TIME BECAUSE WE GOT TO FIGURE THIS OUT. 
          THAT IS NOT AS SIMPLE AS PEOPLE WANT TO THINK IT. 
          >> NO IT'S NOT. >> WE CAN'T GIVE THE KEYS BACK SAY NO HARM NO FOUL PUT THE AIR CONDITIONING IN HAVE A NICE DAY. 
          IT CAN'T WORK THAT WAY. THIS NEEDS TO BE DOCUMENTED, A NEW DOCUMENT, AND ALL PARTIES AGREE TO AND AS FAR AS THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE CONCERNED IF WE COMMITTED TO IT THEN WE ARE ON THE HOOK FOR IT. AS A LANDLORD WE ARE NOT GOING TO COME OUT HERE SAY PUT AMENDMENT TOGETHER WE ARE GOING TO DO THE ROOF HVAC AND NOT DO IT. 
          IT'S A MISREPRESENTATIONS AND SO CLEARLY WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THIS WORK, REGARDLESS OF WHO THE TENANT IS. 
          >> RIGHT. >> I THINK THESE IMPROVEMENTS NEED TO BE COMPLETED. I WOULD NOT LOOK TO PUT A PENNY INTO PATCHING THIS ROOF BY THE WAY. 
          THIS NEEDS A REPLACEMENT. THE HVAC IS AS OLD AS THE BUILDING. SO WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO DO? IT'S BIG CHILLER UNITS. YOU CAN THROW 10S OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON THAT BEFORE YOU THROW UP YOUR HANDS AND SAY OKAY CHANGE IT OUT. DID I THAT TODAY ON A PACKAGE SYSTEM ON A BUILDING I PUT TWO-GRAND INTO THAT MONEY IS GONE. I TOLD THE OWNER GO AHEAD AND REPLACE IT. NO CHOICE. 
          >> LIKE I SAID, WE GOT GAPS, BIG GAPS AND I DON'T KNOW WE STARTED HERE AND NOW WE ARE OVER HERE AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THINGS TO FIGURE OUT HERE AND WE, YOU KNOW THIS IS A LEGAL JUGGERNAUT RIGHT 
          NOW. >> I NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU. 
          >> YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD. IT'S GOT TO GO BACK TO LEGAL AND WORK OUT WHATEVER OUR PLAN IS TO GET TO THE CITY OWNER THE BUILDING HAVING CONTROL OF THE BUILDING TO REPLACE THE ROOF TO REPLACE THE A.C., AND MAINTAIN A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE TENANT. 
          AND WHATEVER THAT HAS TO BE HAS TO BE A NEW LESS. 
          SO BE IT. BUT I THINK IT HAS TO COME BACK WITH THE CITY HAVING THE ABILITY TO HIRE THE CONTRACTORS TO MAINTAIN THE MAINTENANCE PROVISIONS THAT YOU LAID OUT. 
          40-PLUS YEARS EXPERIENCE. >> I'M GOING TO DROP ANOTHER COUPLE REASONS ON THE TABLE AS SOON AS YOU'RE DONE. 
          GO AHEAD. >> THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING. 
          >> ALL RIGHT, A COUPLE OTHER REASONS THE TWO STEPS WE ARE LOOKING TO INROOFING AND HVAC SYSTEM THEY NEED CONTINUOUS MAINTENANCE. YOU DON'T JUST PUT THESE THINGS UP THERE AND WALK AWAY AND WHAT TWO HAPPEN UNDER THIS CIRCUMSTANCE I WOULD SUGGEST CHEYENNE THAT IN THE BID WE WOULD PUT IN A REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE A PROPOSAL FOR MAINTENANCE AND SERVICE ON THE SYSTEM BALLS FILTERS ARE GOING TO HAVE CHANGED QUARTER IF I, BELTS, THOSE CHILLER UNITS HAVE BELT DRIVEN MOTORS AND THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED KONGSLY SO WE NEED A MAINTENANCE FROM THE PEOPLE THAT INSTALL IT MOVING FORWARD HAND IN HAND BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE KWUGSLY. SAME THING WITH THE ROOF. 
          ALL THE BIG ROOFING MANUFACTURERS THE COMPANIES THAT PETIT-FRERE THE PRODUCT REQUIRE REGULAR INSPECTIONS OF THE ROOF BY THE SURRENDER WHO INSTALED IT SO, AGAIN, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS. 
          AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT I CAN TALK ALL NIGHT ABOUT THIS. 
          WE DO A LOT OF THIS STUFF. ON THESE ROOF STEPS YOU HAVE A CLAIM. YOU HAVE A LEAK. 
          TENANT CALLS IN. CALLS THE CITY SAYS HEY MY ROOF IS LEAKING. WELL THERE'S A RESPONSIBILITY NOW TO REPORT THAT THROUGH THE WARRANTY PROCESS. 
          AND IT NEEDS TO BE DOCUMENTED AND FILES NEED TO BE SET UP THAT THE INSPECTIONS HAVE TAKEN PLACE THAT WE HAVE ALL THE INSPECTION REPORTS THAT WE HAVE DONE ANY MITIGATION THEY REQUIRED TO US DO SO THERE'S A WHOLE FILE OF INFORMATION THAT NEEDS TO BE MAINTAINED ON A ROOF. BELIEVE IT OR NOT. 
          YOU THINK YOU PUT A ROOF DOWN YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT IT ANYMORE, DONE WORK THAT WAY SO IN COMMERCIAL ROOFING APPLICATION IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE SEMIANNUAL INSPECTIONS, WRITTEN REPORTS, SENT TO MANUFACTURER AND BACK TO US BUS WE ARE IN CHARGE OF INSTIGATING THAT. 
          NOT ON AUTO PILOT. WE NEED TO CALL IT N. BECAUSE WE DON'T THE MANUFACTURER COMES BACK SAYS YOUR WARRANTY IS VOID BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T DO THE INSPECTIONS REQUIRED AND WE PLAYED THAT GAME MANY TIMES WITH THESE BIG COMPANIES SO I GUESS THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS EXERCISE IS SAYING A LOT MORE TO THIS THAN SAYING THE TENANT IS GOING TO HAVE CONTROL OF OUR ROOF AND HVAC STEPS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY COST A MILLION BUCKS. NO. 
          WE NEED CONTROL OF THAT IT. IT'S OUR ASSET OUR EQUIPMENT AND OUR WARRANTIES MOVING FORWARD. THAT'S BUILDING MAIN THANKS AND THOSE PRODUCTS ONE ON ONE. IF YOU WANT TO GET INTO ADVANCED 
          DISCUSSION WE CAN. >> 101 IS. 
          >> I THINK IT HAS TO COME BACK UNDER THIS ROOF SO TO SPEAK AND NEW AGREEMENT BE MADE BECAUSE IT'S UNLIKELY THE TEN AND WOULD 
          BE THERE 25YEARS CORRECT. >> Y'ALL LOOK REAL YOUNG AND ALL THAT. BUT SOMEBODY ELSE. 
          >> I WON'T BE CALLING IN THE WARRANTY CLAIM 25YEARS FROM NOW. 
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I CAN TELL YOU? COMMISSIONER GAINES. 
          >> COUPLE QUESTIONS AND I'M MOVE. 
          COMMISSIONER BRODERICK I DON'T KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT CHILLING UNITS. I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I'VE SEEN THEM. 
          AND MY QUESTION IS, WITH THE COST AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE UNITS IS THAT SOMETHING WE HAVE TO KEEP OR IS IT SOMETHING THAT CAN YOU CHANGE OUT TO SOMETHING MORE ECONOMICAL OR WHATEVER? I DON'T KNOW. 
          >> WHAT WAS THE QUESTION ARNOLD? >> DO YOU HAVE TO KEEP THE SAME 
          UNIT. >> NO. 
          >> SO CAN WE LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT DOES THE SAME THING. 
          >> YES. >> SINCE WE ARE GOING, I NEED TO KNOW. THIS SO THE ANSWER TO THE 
          QUESTION IS YES. >> YES. 
          AND THERE'S MULTIPLE DIFFERENT STMS WE COULD INCORPORATE HERE. 
          MINI-SPLITS IS NOT THE ANSWER. THE THAT'S WHAT THIEF BEEN EMPLOYING OVER THERE. THOSE DON'T WORK IN THIS ENVIRONMENT SO WHOEVER SPENT THE MONEY ON THOSE I FEEL BADLY FOR 
          THEM. >> THAT'SY ASKED THE QUESTION. 
          >> BUT TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF EXPLANATION THERE ARE MULTIPLE MANUFACTURERS ABLE TO MANUFACTURE THE MATERIALS WE NEED. WHAT WE ARE GOING TO NEED IS ENGINEER'S SYSTEM DESIGN. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO IN AND DO LOAD CALCULATIONS AS TO SQUARE FOOTAGE AREA WHAT'S GOING TO BE COOLED AND ALL THAT THIS IS THE CRITICAL COMPONENT BECAUSE WE SAY TO HVAC GUY GO GIVE US NEW EQUIPMENT WE ARE GOING TO BE DRIVING OFF IN A BENTLEY. 
          >> I'M NOT LAUGHING. WHEN YOU SAID ENGINEER I LOOKED AGENT OUR ENGINEER AND HE SAID NO DON'T CALL ME UP. 
          ALL RIGHT. SO YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION ON. 
          THIS SO ARE THERE OTHER OPTIONS INTO MULTIPLE OPTIONS AND YOU PUT RFP ON THIS YOU'RE GOING TO GET QUOTES FROM SIX MANUFACTURERS AND INSTALLERS AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE DIFFERENT TYPES OF STEPS WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS ENGINEER NEEDS TO PUT A SPEC TOGETHER. WE NEED A ROOFING AND HVAC SPEC. 
          WE CAN'T JUST SAY GIVE AS YOU NEW ROOF. 
          >> THANK YOU FOR THE ANSWER AND THE SECOND PART IS I'VE HEARD A LOT AND I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE DOCUMENT OF UNCLEAN HANDS. 
          I DEAL WITH IT EVERY DAY. ONE THING THAT I WOULD ASK THIS COMMISSION TO DO SINCE TO USE YOUR WORDS WE BOTH HAVE DIRTY HANDS THAT WE, THIS TENANT HAS DONE PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO THIS BUILDING. I'LL JUST BE HONEST WITH. 
          SHE'S PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO THIS BLINK. 
          MAYBE SHE HASN'T DONE EVERYTHING WE WANTED HER TO DO BUT MAYBE CAN I TURN AND AND SAY MAYBE WE HAVEN'T DONE ALL WE NEEDED TO DO SO IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A NEW LEASE IF WE ARE DOING SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE FAIR HERE. WE NEED TO BE FAIR HERE AND CONSIDER EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED WITH THIS TENANT AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE. I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT I'M NOT SAYING WHAT WE'VE GOT TO DO. I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE AND WE LEAVE IT OUT THAT. AND AT THIS POINT I'LL BE QUIET. 
          WHAT TIME ARE WE TALKING ABOUT WITH NOW WITH EXPERTS AND AIR CONDITIONING AND THIS ROOFING? BECAUSE TO ME THAT SOUNDS LIKE MORE DELAYED, DELAY, DELAY, AND WE ARE TRYING TO GET THIS DONE, BECAUSE EVERYTHING WE HAVE DONE OVER IN THAT AREA I'M JUST GOING TO SAY, THIS INCUBATE SYSTEM OR THIS INCUBATE PROPERTY IS PART WHAT WE ENVISION AND LET'S NOT FORGET THAT THE WHAT WE ENVISION ON THAT CORNER GOING AROUND TO THAT MUSEUM, GOING AROUND TO THAT THEATER AND NOW THAT WE HAVE THAT OTHER PROPERTY AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DOING SOMETHING WITH THAT WHOLE AREA, IT ALL BUILDS INTO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, AND COMMISSIONER JOHNSON GOING BACK WITH SOMETHING YOU WERE UPSET ABOUT 
          TWO MEETINGS AGO OR WHATEVER. >> TODAY. 
          >> OR WHATEVER WITH THE WROUGHT IRON LOOKED LIKE SOMEBODY TRIED TO FIX I AND BED IT BACK THE OTHER WAY. 
          THAT'S ANOTHER DISCUSSION THAT THE CENTER CAN HELP WITH US THE ISSUES THAT YOU'RE HAVING WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE GOING SO EVERYBODY STEP BACK AND I KNOW BACK AND FOR THE EVERYBODY LOOKING AT ME, LET'S STEP BACK AND LET'S SIT DOWN TAKE ALL THE HOSTILITY OUT OF THE ROOM. LET'S JUST SIT DOWN DO THE RIGHT THING AND GET THIS DONE. I HEARD, I'M OVER HERE SHAKING MY HEAD NOW. AS USUAL THAN THAT SIDE OF THE DAIS WHEN I'M HEARING A MILLION DOLLARS AND THE NUMBERS THEY'RE THROWING OUT HERE I'M OVER HERE SCRATCHING MY HEAD BUT IT'S OUR BUILDING AND IF WE AGREE TO DO IT, LET'S FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO IT AND GET IT DONE AND LET'S MOVE ON, BECAUSE IF NOTHING, 
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KOOUBLT, PLEASE DON'T TAKE THIS THE WONG WAY, BUT I'M ALMOST TIRED OF HEARI INCUBATE AND THESE PROBLEMS. WHEN I WAS IN THERE AND IT WAS UP AND RUNNING, THAT'S WHERE I USED TO HAVE MY 5 P.M. WEDNESDAY MORNINGS TO WALK IN FOR PEOPLE WHO COULDN'T MAKE IT HERE SO I SAW THE PEOPLE COMING SO LET'S PUT HEADS I SEE MADAM ATTORNEY LOOKING AT ME SO I'LL SIT BACK, IF I SAY TOO MUCH, THAT'S HOW I FEEL RIGHT NOW. 
          >> WHATEVER WE DO LET'S PUT A 30 DAY STAMP ON IT AND LET'S GO. 
          WHAT WE HAVE TO DO ON OUR SIDE OUR STAFF OUR LEGAL, GET IN THE SAME ROOM AND KNOCK IT OUT, BECAUSE THIS IS MY THIRD MEETING ON THIS ONE AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANYWHERE AT ALL SO I'M GOING TO PUT THE PRESSURE ON MR. CHEST, OUR STAFF, INCUBATE, FOLKS. LET'S GET THIS THING DONE. 
          LET'S GET A NEW LEASE. LET'S GET THE LEGAL SIDE OF THIS THING ACCOMPLISHED. STAY INSIDE OUR BOX AS A CITY AS A CRA, IF WE NEED STEP FROM THE CITY, LET'S GET IT. 
          >> MR. CHEST. >> I KIND OF SPOKE THIS IN DETAIL THE LAST TIME AROUND SO COMMISSIONER JOHNSON YOU'LL NOT HERE TO BE RATE, I WAS NOT CLEAR WHAT IT WAS IT'S TOO CFP FOR ANYBODY TO PUT UP FPRA WE SHOULD MAINTAIN ACCORDING TO OUR CODES THE CITY HAS BUILDINGS THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT WE MAINTAIN ELECTRICAL A.C. UNITS SO I DON'T SEE WHY WE WOULDN'T TAKE OVER THAT BLINK BECAUSE IT IS OUR BUILDING GET IT UP TO CODE AND WE CAN BRING IN THE TENANTS THAT WE WANT TO BRING IN NOT JUST ONE BUT MULTIPLE TENANTS. 
          WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WAYS OF GENERATING REVENUE THIS THAT AREA AS WELL BUT THAT'S A CITY ASSET. 
          IT SHOULD BE MAINTAINED BY THE CITY, IT SHOULD BE IMPROVED BY THE CITY. AND THE CITY AT THAT POINT CAN DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THAT ASSET IN THE TERMS OF HAVING THE AGREEMENT WITH THE CURRENT TENANT. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HAVE. 
          WE CAN EMBELLISH THAT BUT THE LAST TIME AROUND I SAID WE NEAT AN OPERATING LEASE SO THE CITY CAN TAKE CONTROL OF THE BUILDING BUT THE WAY IT IS TODAY I BELIEVE WE NEED A CENTRAL UNIT CENTRAL AIR CONDITIONING AND HEATING UNIT NOT THE SPLIT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IT DOESN'T WORK FOR THAT SIZE THAT AGE OF A BUILDING. SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE WHEN I SPEAK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AND WE DRAFTED THE OPERATING LEASE ALREADY MONTHS AGO LIKE BACK IN SEPTEMBER. 
          I SAW WHERE THIS WAS GOING AND THERE'S LOTS THAT WENT BACK AND FORTH. I'M NOT GETTING INTO WHY WE ARE HERE BUT I BELIEVE ORDER FOR THAT BUILDING TO BE REPAIRED AND IMPROVED PROPERLY THE CITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND THE FUNDS TO DO THAT PUT TOGETHER THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT PLAN AND GET THE ASSETS AND THEN TALK ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO GO ABOUT LEASING THE ASSET A IT GETS BACK TO WHAT COMMISSIONER BRODERICK TALKED ABOUT US HAVING WARRANTY ASSETS, MANUFACTURER GET THE TO CALL TH- MANUFACTURER'S PERMISSION TO TAKE CARE OF THE PRODUCT OR ASSETS IF THEY FAIL. ALL THAT COMES INTO PLAY WHEN THEY OWN IT AND WE FIX IT. WE DO THAT WITH ALL OUR PROPERTIES. THIS IS NOTHING NEW FOR US SO I HOPE THE DIRECTION IS TO GO TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT THE DIRECTION IS THE. > I WANTED TO CHIME IN RIGHT THERE. MADAM CHAIR. 
          I'M READY TO KIND OF CURTAIL. THIS I HEARD A COUPLE THINGS AND MAYBE WE CAN DO A COUPLE THINK SIMULTANEOUSLY NUCHLT ONE IS WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT? TIME OF AGREEMENT TO HELP INCUBATE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE AGREEMENT IS AND WHEN THEY CAN COME BACK, BUT THAT HAS TO BE SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT AND LETTING THEM OUT PROBABLY THE CURRENT LEASE THEY'RE IN RIGHT NOW AND I THINK THAT PROBABLY NEEDS TO COME BACK TO US WHATEVER THAT OPERATING AGREEMENT IS GOING TO BE AND WE AGREE TO THAT THE I THINK SECONDLY IN PARALLEL TO THAT RIGHT NOW, THAT WE GET A PROJECT MANAGER IDENTIFIED AND WE AGAIN TO GO OUT TO MARKET TO GET THE QUOTES FOR I'M JUST GOING TO CALL IT A.C., WHATEVER. AIR AND HEAT, OKAY? AS WELL AS A ROOF. OKAY? AND LEAGUES THAT AND MIGHT AS WELL THROW IN THE MOLD REMEAL CREATION SO THOSE THINGS WE BEGIN TO PULL THOSE QUOTES PARALLEL NOW SO WE GET A SENSE WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST US HERE BUT WE HAVE TO KIND OF UNCOUPLE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW WITH THE CURRENT TENANT BASED ON THAT PIECE OF PAPER BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE TO FIND A WAY OF KNOWING HOW WE BRING THEM BACK AND WHATEVER OTHER ASSETS WE ARE GOING TO BRING BACK TO THAT PARTICULAR ASPECT SO I THINK THAT'S A CONVERSATION YOU CAN BE 
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HAVING WITH KOOUBLT AND MORE IMPORTANTLY THE THIRD THING WE HAVE TO HAVE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS UNFORTUNATELY GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME. 
          THIS IS NOT HAPPENING OVERNIGHT. BUT IT'S, THE STEPS WILL BE IN PLACE YOU'LL BE SEEING. TAKE CONTROL OF THIS BUILDING SO WE CAN GET A TENANT IN THERE TO SEE OUR VISION COME TRUE ON THAT CORDON AND I THINK THAT'S A WIN FOR EVERYBODY. 
          >> EVERYBODY CLEAR. >> THE ONLY THING MISSING WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THE EFFORTS OF THE TENANT AND WHAT AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY PUT IT. I THINK I SAW SQUIRMING HAPPENING WHEN MR. CHEST SAYS WE GET IT BACK AND LEASE IT OUT WE WILL TALK THAT THROUGH. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          >>TY DOING THAT'S FORMALIZED IN THAT PIECE OF AGREEMENT THAT NOW STANDS UP AS THE NEW BINDING DOCUMENT. 
          >> AND I THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER GAINES SAID SHOULD BE OVERRIDING TO WHATEVER IS FAIR TO THE TENANT AND FAIR TO US. 
          >> THERE YOU GO. >> WHATEVER THE FAIR. 
          >> MADAM MAYOR. >> YES. 
          >> CURTIS YOU'RE ON THE TRACK HERE. 
          IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHAT ARE WE BIDDING. 
          OKAY. WE ARE GOING TO BID A ROOF. 
          THERE'S A ZILLION TYPES OF ROOFS WE CAN GET A CHEAP ROOF BID OR A CADILLAC ROOF BID. WITHOUT SPECIFICSES WE ARE ASKING THE CONTRACTOR TO RECOMMEND THE ROOF SO WE CAN GO OFF GET FIVE BIDS AND HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT ROOFINGS STEPS. 
          SO THE WAY YOU FIX THIS IF YOU HAVE A PROJECT MANAGER EXPERIENCED WITH THIS STUFF THEY'LL PUT TOGETHER SPECIFICS AND SEND IT OUT TO ROOFERS. IF WE DON'T HAVE A PROJECT MANAGER EXPERIENCE WITH THESE PRODUCTS THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOST SO WE WOULD HAVE TO HIRE NOT MARK, HIS DEPARTMENT SPECIFICATIONS SO YOU HAVE A ROOFING EXPERT CONSULTANT COME IN AND THEY GIVE US SPECIFICS. HVAC STEPS ARE A LITTLE EASIER THE EVENING NEAR AND TO PERMIT THIS STUFF YOU ARE GOING TO FIELD THIS UNDERLYING INFORMATION SO TO PERMIT THE HVAC SYSTEM YOU NEED LOW CALCULATIONS AND IN OTHER WORDS THE, HOW BIG IS THIS ROOM. HOW MUCH HEAT IS BEING GENERATED FROM THESE BODIES IN HERE AND EQUIPMENT? THAT'S WHAT MECHANICAL ENGINEERS DO, THEY DESIGN THIS STUFF SO WE KNOW WHAT IT IS WE ARE BUYING AND BUILTING BECAUSE WE DON'T WE ARE GOING TO GET STICKS DIFFERENT BID ON HVAC STEPS AND READ THESE AND STAYED THESE AREN'T CLOSE TO ONE ANOTHER. 
          ARNOLD IS POINTING AT ME SAYING MR. CHEST KNOWS THIS. 
          >> WHAT HE SAID HEEGS GOING TO GET A PROJECT MANAGER. 
          >> BUT THE PROJECT MANAGER IS GOING TO REQUIRE THE INTERIM STEP OF GETTING THESE REPORTS GENERATED. 
          SO WHOEVER THE PROJECT MANAGER IS, IT'S A CITY EMPLOYEE THEY 
          NEED TO COME MEET WITH ME. >> COMMISSIONER BRODERICK. 
          >> THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE DO ALL DAY LONG. 
          >> SO IN YOUR ONE ON ONES WITH THE ATTORNEY AND CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY CLERK PUT IT OUT THERE. 
          >> I'M GOING TO HAVE THE PROJECT MANAGER COME IN AND DO A TUTORIAL WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN HERE. 
          >> WHOEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT. >> IF MR. CHEST IS OKAY. 
          >> GET A PROJECT MANAGER. >> ONLY DONE THIS 42YEARS NOW, 45YEARS INTO OKAY. MADAM CHAIR I'M SORRY TO 
          INTERRUPT. >> YES, MA'AM. 
          >> MISS HEDGES IS HARD AT WORK. SHE'S BEEN WATCHING THE MEETING. 
          WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM LEGAL. IS AT THIS TIME BOARD'S PLEASURE TO CONTINUE WITH THIS CURRENT TENANT IN THE BLINK SO WE CAN GIVE DIRECTION TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WHAT OUR LEGAL 
          OPINION IS. >> WELL, WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS ACCOMMODATE THEM BUT ALSO WE ALSO HAVE TO FIX THE BUILDING. SO ARE THEY CURRENTLY IN THE 
          BUILDING? >> NO. 
          THEY'RE NOT. >> I THINK WHAT ATTORNEY HEDGES IS TRYING TO GET TO, BY THE ACTUAL CONTRACT THEY HAVE POSSESSION OF THE BUILDING, ALTHOUGH YOU KNOW THE BLINK HAS BEEN SHUT DOWN BECAUSE OF ALL OF THAT. 
          SO, I THINK IN THAT AGREEMENT WE ARE STILL LOOKING TO MAINTAIN THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CURRENT TENANT. 
          PROBABLY UNDER OPERATORS AGREEMENT OR? TYPE OF DEAL. I THINK THE ATTORNEY WORKING WITH MR. CHEST AND MISS HONIDGE NEEDS TO FIGURE THAT OUT SO WE GET A CHANCE TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN THE OPERATING AGREEMENT WITH THE CURRENT TENANT. 
          >> SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S THE CONSENSUS WITH THE BOARD TO 
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CONTINUE WITH INCUBATE. BUT WE WANT CLEAR REALITY WHAT 
          WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO. >> WOULD THAT BE EXCLUSIVELY? WE WILL TALK. BECAUSE I WANT TO INSURE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE BUILDING. I WANT TO BE SURE WHEN I SPEAK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION THIS IS IN DETAUGHT SO I WANT TO SHARE WE ARE WHERE WE HAVE AGREEMENT. 
          I SAID BY CITY ATTORNEY PREVIOUS MEETING THIS CONTRACT IS IN DEFAULT. SO CERTAINLY I'M GOING TO BE FAIR BUT THE CITY IS THE ABOUT TO SPEND OVER A MILLION AND A HALF TO TWO MILLION DOLLARS ON THIS BUILDING THAT WE DID NOT AGREE TO DO INITIALLY SO THE AGREEMENT CHANGES COMPLETELY SO I'M GOING TO GRAPPLE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY SIT DOWN WITH WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS AND GIVE TERMS ON THE USE OF THE 
          BUILDING. >> YES. 
          >> IT'S A STILL BLINK. WE HAD OWN THE BUILDING. 
          WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE AR COMMITTING TO THE ARE WE GOING TO LET IT STAND THE WAY IT IS SPEND MOVING ON IT HALF IMPROVED IT IS WHAT IT IS AND HAVING REMAINSCO FINE BUT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE IT OVER LIKE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO PUT THE MONEY IN IT WE SHOULD MAKE DECISIONS ON OVERALL USE OF THE PROPERTY AND 
          ASSET. >> JUST TO BE CLEAR THE LEASE HAS NOT, IN DEFAULT THE LEASE HAS NOT BEEN TERMINATED. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE BOARD. 
          >> IT LAST TO BE A DIFFERENT LEASE. 
          SO, I THINK I'VE HEARD CONSENSUS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO KEEP THE TENANT WHOLE, WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE AT THE END IS ANOTHER STORY. WHATEVER CURRENTLY IS NOT GOING TO WORK FOR US EITHER WAY SO THAT LEASE HAS TO GO AWAY, A NEW ONE CREATED, WE ARE INTEREST IN MAINTAINING THE REP WITH THE CURRENT TENANT BUT THEY CAN'T GET IN THERE AND HAVE A LEASE UNTIL WE FIX THE ROOF TOE SICKEN AND EGG, GORDIAN KNOT, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT, WE HAVE TO GET READY TO BUILD SOMETHING SO WE HAVE TO HAVE CONTROL OF THE BUILDING. 
          >> THAT'S WHAT I HEAR. YES. 
          >> I THINK I HEARD CLEAREDLY AND I HAD SEE SHAKING HEADS THAT WE ALL HAVE SAID MAINTAIN RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CURRENT TENANT WHATEVER THAT IS GOING TO BE WITH THE NEW LEASE. 
          >> WELL, YES. RIGHT. 
          TO THE EXTENT THAT EVERYBODY IS REASONABLE. 
          >> DOUFR QUESTIONS STUFF? >> I UNDERSTAND. 
          >> MS. DELGADO HOW ABOUT YOU? >> SARAH WAS DOWN TO SAY WE DO HAVE PLANS OR RECEIVED PLANS AT SOME POINT FOR THE FULL HVAC SYSTEM IN ADDITION TO THE MINI SPLITS. 
          SO MAYBE WE WERE FURTHER LONG THAN WHAT WAS BEING DISCUSSED IN TERMS OF TIME FRAMES AND I CONTINUE WANT TO MUDDY THE WATER. WE ARE PAST THAT. 
          >> MR. CHEST, ARE YOU CLEAR? >> YES, I AM. 
          [C.  FPRA Resolution 26-06 approving and adopting updated Commercial Facade Grant Program Guidelines.]
          >> RESOLUTION NUMBER 26.6 [READING] 
          >> MR. CHEST, DO YOU HAVE A LEAD IN FOR THIS? 
          >> ACTUALLY, I DO NOT. BUT MS. GARCIA IS GOING TO DO 
          PRESENTATION. >> MS. GARCIA. 
          >> GOOD EVENING, SO IN RESPONSE TO YOUR FEEDBACK, I'M PRESENTING THE PROPOSED PROPOSAL VISIONS FOR THE COMMERCIAL FACADE GRANT PROGRAM. AS YOU KNOW THE INTENT OF THIS PROGRAM IS TO FOR THE THE REVITALIZATION OF THE COMMERCIAL CORRESPOND DOORS IN THE FPRA DISTRICT BY SUBMITTING PRIVATE INVESTMENT PROOUMGTS THAT ENHANCE THE APPEARANCE OF BUILDINGS AND ELIMINATE BLIGHT. THE PROGRAM OFFERS FINAL SINCE TANS IN TERMS AFTER REIMBURSABLE GRANT MATCHING 25 PERCENT TO $25,000. [READING]. 
          >> THIS IS A PREVIOUS COMMERCIAL FACADE PROJECT THAT WE FUNDED 809 DELAWARE AVENUE KNOWN AS THE BLUE BIRD BISTRO CAFE, 215 NORTH 2ND STREET ONE OF OUR PREVIOUS PROJECTS AS WELL SO THESE ARE 
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THE PROGRAM REVISIONS BEING PRESENTED TO YOU SO WE ARE GOING TO START PREAPPLICATION REQUIREMENTS. 
          WE ARE ALSO GOING TO REQUIRE PACKAGE DEAL IMPROVEMENTS SO THIS IS INTENDED TO PRODUCE A MORE SIGNIFICANT VISUAL AND COMMUNITY IMPACT. AND THE END WE HAVE ALSO ADDED MAIN CORRIDOR BONUS POINTS SO IN ADDITION TO THE MAXIMUM BASED EVALUATION SCORE OF 100 POINTS, TEN BONUS POINTS WOULD BE A WARDED TO PROPERTIES WITH FRONT DAMAGE ON ORANGE AVENUE AND THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          SO, WHAT THE PREAPPLICATION PROCESS WILL LOOK LIKE, THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE A MANDATORY REVIEW MEETING WITH PLANNING BUILDING ENGINEERING AND THE HISTORIC PRESENTATION INVESTIGATION IF IT'S APPLICABLE. 
          THIS IS GOING TO IDENTIFY PERMITS AND REQUIREMENTS EARLY INSTEAD OF AFTER WE AWARD THE PROJECTS AND IT'S GOING TO REDUCE THE RISK MUCH NON-COMPLIANT PROJECTS. 
          IT'S ALSO GOING TO MINIMIZE ME COMING FORWARD AND REQUESTING AMENDMENTS TO SOME OF THESE AGREEMENTS. 
          SO THE ELIGIBILITY. THE ELIGIBLE PROJECTS MUST FOLLOW THAT COMPREHENSIVE PACKAGE DEAL APPROACH INTENDED TO PRODUCE SIGNIFICANT VISUAL AND COMMUNITY IMPACT. 
          THE PROJECT SO THE PROJECTS MUST INCLUDE MULTIPLE MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS, RATHER THAN JUST A SINGLE ISOLATED IMPROVEMENT. MINIMUM OF THREE PRIMARY FACADE IMPROVEMENT CATEGORIES MUST BE INCLUDED IN THE WORK. 
          HERE ON THE NEXT SLIDE. SO PRIMARY FACADE IMPROVEMENTS, HIGH-IMPACT, BUILDING DEFINING ELEMENTS THAT IMPROVE THE FUNCTION, STREET PRESENCE OF THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. 
          SO THEY NEED TO INCLUDE FACADE RESTORATION AND ARCHITECTURAL ENHANCEMENTS, SIDING AND STUCCO, WINDOWS AND DOORS ON THESE CANOPIES, EXTERIOR LIGHTING, SIGNAGE, ROOF REPAIR OR REPLACEMENT. DECORATIVE WALLS AND FENCING, ADA EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS AND PARKING LOT RESURFACING. 
          >> GO BACK THERE. THOSE ARE THE PRIMARY THINGS -- SO IN THE PAST, WE HAVE OBJECTED TO JUST A ROOF CHANGE 
          >> IT HAS TO BE VISIBLE FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          SO FLAT ROOFS ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE PROJECT. 
          AND IT IS DEFINED CLEARLY IN THE PROGRAM REVIEW. 
          >> AND PARKING LOT RESURFACING IS ALSO -- 
          >> IT IS ELIGIBLE AS LONG AS IT IS RESURFACING BUT NOT SEALCOATING, I REMEMBER HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH THE BOARD MEMBER 
          REGARDING THE SEALED COATING. >> BUT THAT IS CONSIDERED A 
          PRIMARY FACADE? >> CORRECT. 
          >> I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS. >> WE CAN ALWAYS MAKE REVISIONS. 
          >> YOU CAN GO ON TO THE NEXT. >> SO SECONDARY FACADE IMPROVEMENTS MAY BE INCLUDED BUT CANNOT SATISFY THE MINIMUM THREE PRIMARY REQUIREMENTS. IT WOULD BE REMOVAL OF OUTDATED SECURITY FEATURES, WINDOW TRANSPARENCY IMPROVEMENTS, PERMANENT LANDSCAPING, PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE AMENITIES, PATIO AND DECK IMPROVEMENTS, SECURITY CAMERAS, 
          ART INSTALLATIONS. >> SO JUST SO I'M CLEAR THIS IS THE FIRST STEP THROUGH ANY THREE OF THAT COMBINATION AND THEN IT CAN ALSO BE AUGMENTED BY SOME OF THIS HERE? 
          >> CORRECT. >> BUT THREE OF THE FIRST MUST BE CHECKED. ALL RIGHT. 
          >> THESE WE WILL CONSIDER FOR FUNDING THAT THEY MUST INCLUDE THREE PRIMARY. SO THE EVALUATION CRITERIA STAY THE SAME, IT IS GOING TO BE VISUAL IMPACT LIKE ILLUMINATION REASSIGNMENT 50 POINTS. TOTAL PROJECT INVESTMENT, 25-POINT, DESIGN AND CREATIVITY 15 POINTS, COMMUNITY IMPACT AND PUBLIC BENEFIT, TEN POINTS. AND THEN THE ADDITION WAS THE BONUS POINTS, TEN BONUS POINTS FOR PROPERTIES WITH FRONTS ON 
          ORANGE AVENUE. >> WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT EARLIER ABOUT MAJOR CORRIDORS, WHAT EMPHASIS POINTS TO GET FOR THAT? 
          >> IT WAS A CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO ONLY FOCUS ON 
          ORANGE AVENUE. >> ORANGE AVENUE? NOT MAJOR CORRIDORS BUT ORANGE AVENUE? 
          >> FOR THE BONUS POINTS. >> BONUS POINTS. 
          I GUESS IF YOU HAVE PROPERTY ON ORANGE AND YOU DO SOMETHING, YOU WILL GET A KICKER AND THAT MAY MOVE YOU UP BECAUSE THAT IS A MAJOR EMPHASIS, OBVIOUSLY. AND THAT COULD SHIFT IF ALL OF 
          ORANGE IS COMPLETE. >> IT TURNED OUT TO BE DYNAMITE. 
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          >> OKAY. MAKES SENSE. 
          >> IT WOULD BE A GOOD THING. >> THAT IS THE EMPHASIS THAT THEY RECOMMENDED. OF COURSE ANYONE WITHIN THE DISTRICT CAN APPLY OR EVEN NOMINATE YOUR CORRIDORS. 
          BUT BONUS POINTS FOR ORANGE AVENUE. 
          THAT IS THE FOCUS. THE APPLICATION PERIOD WILL BE OPEN FROM MAY TO JULY OF 2026. WE WILL PRESENT THE APPLICANTS TO THE CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THEY WILL MAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU, THEY WILL EVALUATE AND THEN YOU WOULD BE THE ONE THAT MAKES THE FINAL DETERMINATION AND THEN EXECUTING THOSE AGREEMENTS. SO FOR OUTREACH. 
          WE WILL DO OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PRESS RELEASES, WE WILL DO CITY AND WEBSITES, FP TV ADS, MAIL AND EMAIL BLAST TO BUSINESS OWNERS, WE WILL CONTACT FORT PIERCE MAIN STREET, LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS. 
          AND WILL ALSO DROP OFF FLYERS AT THE PRIMARY CORRIDORS. 
          WHICH COULD USE SOME OF OUR ASSISTANCE. 
          I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 
          >> CHAMBER? >> ONE OF THE ONES WE USUALLY 
          ATTEND AS WELL, YES. >> I APPRECIATE THESE CHANGES, BECAUSE I THINK THAT YOU HAVE LISTENED AND I PRESUME THE CRA COMMITTEE DISCUSSED ALL OF THESE AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE LISTENED WHAT THEY'VE SAID WAS IN THE PAST WEEK. 
          >> ONE QUICK QUESTION. THERE ANYTHING IDENTIFYING AN OWNER WITH MULTIPLE PROPERTIES IN A PARTICULAR APPLICATION, RIGHT? WE HAVE SEEN THAT BEFORE, BUT WE HAVE HAD, ONE PERSON WITH THREE AND IS THERE ANYTHING IN HERE TO 
          ADDRESS THAT? >> IT WASN'T ADVISED BY HER CITY ATTORNEY. BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE OWNED 
          BY DIFFERENT LLCS. >> YES. 
          BUT IF YOU KNOW, IT IS THE SAME PERSON. 
          >> ALL RIGHT, I JUST KNEW IT WAS A CHALLENGE AND WE HAD AN ISSUE OF TRYING TO SPREAD IT AROUND AND HAVE EVERYBODY GET A LITTLE BIT OF IT. BUT I WILL DEFER TO THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND WHAT THEY SAY, I WILL STAY OUT OF IT. 
          >> ANY OTHER -- YES? >> THIS PREAPPLICATION PROCESS IS SOMETHING ON THE PLANNING SIDE AND IT IS THE PLANNING DIRECTOR, THE BUILDING DIRECTOR AND THE CITY ENGINEER AS WELL THAT STARTED THIS DISCUSSION. BECAUSE WE HAVE FOUND THAT ON THE BACK AND, THERE WERE COMPLIANCE ISSUES. 
          SO WE GOT TOGETHER WITH THE TEAM AND PUT THIS TOGETHER. 
          AND THIS IS A PRELUDE TO WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WITH A BIGGER SPACE WAS THE PLANNING PART. I WANT TO THANK THOSE DIRECTORS FOR STEPPING UP AND TALKING ABOUT THIS AND THE TEAM BRINGING IT TOGETHER, GETTING IT TO THE COMMITTEE INTO APPROVING IT. 
          THAT IS THE NEXT STEP FOR US. IT MAY SEEM WITH THESE 
          PARTICULAR CRA TYPE GRANTS, -- >> THESE DEPARTMENTS SHOULD BE 
          CORDONING ALL THE TIME, RIGHT? >> THE DEVELOPERS ARE COMING INTO THE CITY, THIS IS GREAT, THANK YOU. 
          >> ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS OR COMMENTS? GOOD JOB. WE NEED TO APPROVE THIS. 
          >> IS THERE A RESOLUTION AND MOTION? 
          >> TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. 
          >> MOTION SECOND, CALLED THE ROLL PLEASE. 
          [D.  FPRA Resolution 26-09 - Entering an Interlocal Funding Agreement Between the City of Fort Pierce and the Fort Pierce Redevelopment Agency for the Depot Drive Parking Lot Project in an Amount Not to Exceed  $112,340.00]
PIERCE AGENCY IN THE SPECIAL DISTRICT ENTERING INTO AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA, AND THE FORT PIERCE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY WHEREBY THE FORT PIERCE WE DEVELOP AND AGENCY WILL PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENT IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE WILL BE RESPONSE WILL FOR PROJECT MANAGEMENT. 
          PROVIDING FINDINGS AND AUTHORIZATIONS AND REPEALING ALL RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH THE SEPARABILITY AND PROVIDING 
          AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> DO YOU HAVE A LEAD-IN? MAY BE SOME COMMISSIONERS DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WERE PLANNING. 
          SO PERHAPS YOU -- >> SO THAT IS A GOOD POINT. 
          >> SO YOU MIGHT JUST -- >> I WILL PULL IT UP. 
          >> TO A QUICK WALK-THROUGH, IF YOU WILL. 
          >> I WILL PULL UP THE MAPS HERE. SHOULD HAVE HAD MY SLIDE PREPARED, SORRY ABOUT THAT. LOOKING AT -- I DON'T KNOW HOW I END UP THERE. HERE WE ARE. 
          SO THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN IN DISCUSSION FOR QUITE SOME TIME. 
          IT WAS ACTUALLY THE SUBJECT AREA FOR OUR PROPOSAL FOR THE BRIGHT 
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LINE STATION, DIRECTLY BEHIND THE SUNRISE THEATER. 
          PREVIOUS TO THAT, OR PRIOR CITY ENGINEER HAD A PRELIMINARY DESIGN TO IMPROVE THE PARKING, ALL THE WAY AND ACCESS UNDERNEATH THE CITRUS BRIDGE AND BACK TO THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. SO THERE IS SOME PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT IS IMPEDING THE ENTIRE CONNECTION AT THIS POINT. 
          BUT WHAT WE ARE LOOKING OUT FOR THIS SCOPE OF WORK AND FOR THIS INTERLOCAL FUNDING AGREEMENT IS THE IMPROVEMENT OF THIS PARKING AREA, INCLUDING IN ADDITION OF A FEW EXTRA PARKING SPACES WITH SOME RECONFIGURATION THAT WAS ACTUALLY TOUCHED ON BY GEORGIA IN THE MARINA SQUARE PROJECT. ALSO LOOKING AT BEAUTIFICATION, WITH THE INSTALLATION OF PAVERS, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY, WHICH WAS PREVALENT THROUGHOUT OUR ENTIRE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, THERE IS NO PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY HERE NOW. 
          WE ARE WALKING ALONG THE STREET TO GET BACK TO THE SUNRISE THEATER, RIVER YOU WANT TO GO. WRITING HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO USE THIS PARKING LOT. 
          SO ACCESS LOOKING AT A TURNAROUND, COORDINATION WITH THE COUNTY WITH THE COURT PARKING GARAGE THAT IS HERE. 
          SO THIS IS FOR DESIGN. SO THE DESIGN THOSE PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED OR PRESENTED -- IT HAS BEEN YEARS. 
          IT HAS BEEN SEVEN YEARS, I DON'T KNOW. 
          >> GO BACK TO THE PRIVATE PROPERTY. 
          THAT BUILDING -- THE OFFICE IS FOR SALE. 
          SO SHOULD WE BE THINKING ABOUT BUYING BACK THAT PROPERTY FROM THEM BECAUSE -- IF WE'RE GOING TO REDO THIS ENTIRE PARKING AREA, IT WILL BE A GREAT ADDITION. 
          AND THEN ANYONE WHO BUYS IT WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE ADDITIONAL PARKING IF YOU ARE TO BUY THIS EASEMENT OR 
          WHATEVER YOU WOULD CALL IT. >> THAT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD EXPLORE, YES, SIR. I THINK THAT THROUGH THIS DESIGN PROCESS, THAT ACTUALLY CAME UP AND OUR INITIAL -- WE HAD A MEETING TO GET THE SCOPE FROM THE CONSULTANT AND WE TALKED ABOUT ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS AND ACCESS AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD DEFINITELY EXPLORE. 
          THIS -- THE INTERLOCAL FUNDING AGREEMENT IS REALLY SPELLING OUT THE CITY'S RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CRA, THE CRA BEING THE FUNDING SOURCE, THE CITY AND THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT BEING THE PROJECT MANAGER ON THIS. THIS IS ONLY GETTING US THROUGH THE DESIGN PHASE, WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK FOR FUTURE 
          CONSTRUCTION APPROVAL. >> RIGHT. 
          >> I JUST -- I THINK IT IS AN EXCELLENT IDEA. 
          AND IN LIGHT OF RECENT COMMENTS COMING OUT OF STUART, I DON'T THINK THAT THIS BRIGHT LINE THING IS OVER. 
          THERE BEEN A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO TO SIGNAL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY AGAIN. 
          I DON'T KNOW. BUT I THINK US HAVING AN IDEA OF THIS AREA AND SOME TYPE OF DESIGN POSSIBLY, THAT COULD ALWAYS BE TWEAKED. BUT WHO KNOWS WHAT IS GOING TO 
          HAPPEN. >> WE ALSO HAVEN'T GIVEN UP ON A 
          RAIL. >> ANY KIND OF RAIL OR ANYTHING. 
          ANY KIND OF RAIL THAT MOVES THROUGH. 
          >> I GROUND THAT ONE! >> ANY RAIL OR ANYTHING. 
          >> SOMETHING. >> THIS IS ALSO A REALLY IMPORTANT POINT TO OUR DOWNTOWN, YOU WILL KNOW THAT. 
          ORANGE IS ONE OF OUR MAIN CORRIDOR IS AS WE JUST SPOKE ABOUT, IS OUR PRAYER RECORD OR FOR COMMERCIAL FACADE GRANTS AND IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE IMPROVE THE ESTHETICS. 
          I THINK MR. CHEST PARK HERE HIS FIRST WEEK, GOING SOMEWHERE. 
          AND HE IS LIKE THAT PARKING LOT, YES, THIS COULD BE BETTER. 
          RIGHT? SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING 
          THIS PROJECT ALONG, THANK YOU. >> GREAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. BE READY FOR A MOTION? 
          >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. 
          >> CALL THE ROLL PLEASE. 
          [E.  FPRA Resolution 26-10 - Interlocal Funding Agreement Between the City of Fort Pierce and Fort Pierce Redevelopment Agency for the Jetty Park West Improvements Project in an Amount Not to Exceed $100,000]
          >> THE NEXT ITEM IS RESOLUTION 26-10, RESOLUTION OF THE FORT PIERCE WE DEVELOP AN AGENCY IN A SPECIAL DISTRICT OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA, ENTERING INTO LOCAL FUNDING AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FOR THE PARK WEST IMPROVEMENT AND THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY WILL PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT AND THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROJECT MANAGEMENT. PROVIDING FINDINGS, PROVIDING AUTHORIZATION, REPEALNG AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          YES? >> MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. WE ARE AFFECTIONATELY CALLING THIS JETTY PARK WEST. I LIKE THAT NAME. 
          IT IS THE UNIMPROVED PARKING AREA TO THE WEST OF THE JETTY PARK THAT SITS BETWEEN JETTY PARK AND SQUARE GROUPER. 
          IT HAS BEEN ON IMPROVE, AT WHAT POINT WE WERE CONSIDERING PUTTING THIS OUT FOR PROPOSALS FOR PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT. 
          THE BOARD DECIDED THAT WE WOULD KEEP THIS. 
          AS PARKING AND AS A CONTINUATION OF THE PARK. 
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SO WE ARE LOOKING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS THAT MIRROR JETTY PARK TO LOOK LIKE AN INTENTIONAL CONTINUATION OF THAT PARK AREA. 
          EVEN POSSIBLY EXTENDING SOME OF THE ASSETS THAT WE HAVE, LIKE THE SWINGING BENCHES OR OTHER THINGS THAT PEOPLE LOVE ABOUT JETTY PARK. MADAM CHAIR, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT DOWNTOWN IS THE MOST VISITED DESTINATION IN THE COUNTY, I THINK IT IS CONSISTENTLY IN THE TOP FIVE AS WELL. SO WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE THIS 
          IMPROVEMENT. >> WE KNOW BECAUSE IT IS SO HEAVILY USED. SO IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT IMPROVEMENTS OF THE ACTUAL JETTY PARK ITSELF? 
          >> THAT IS NOT CONTEMPLATED AND THIS AGREEMENT, HOWEVER WE ARE -- WE ARE PUTTING THE NEW GARBAGE CANS OUT, I THINK THAT WILL BE A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          THAT GAZEBO WAS RECENTLY HIT -- THERE IS A VEHICLE ACCIDENT OR SOMETHING, IT WAS DAMAGED. THERE WILL BE REPAIR THAT TAKE PLACE THERE. THE FPR EIGHT DOESN'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC PLANS OF DOING PARK IMPROVEMENTS HERE AT THIS STAGE, 
          WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT. >> BECAUSE THE INFORMTION BOARDS ABOUT THE MILITARY THERE ARE GETTING VERY OLD. 
          AND AT SOME PONT THE LIONS WERE VERY INTERESTED IN THAT PERIODS. 
          >> YES, THAT IS A GOOD POINT. WE TALKED ABOUT INTERPRETIVE WATERFRONT SIGNS AS PART OF THE MARINA SQUARE PROJECT. 
          WE WERE PLANNING TO INCLUDE JETTY PARK AS WELL AS THE RIVERWALK AREA, AND THAT IS A GREATER PROJECT. 
          SO WE DO HAVE FUNDING SET ASIDE FOR THAT FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. 
          >> GREAT, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, QUESTIONS ON THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE JETTY PARK WEST? 
          >> ALL FOR IT. >> YES, SIR? 
          >> I HAVE BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR THIS, AS YOU KNOW, SINCE DAY ONE. I REFER TO THAT AREA IS THE DUST BOWL PARK. IT IS JUST A CONSTANT DUST STORM. THIS EXPANSION TIES INTO EVERYTHING WE HAVE OVER THERE. AND THE CONCEPT OF DOING IT IN THE SAME STYLE THAT JETTY PARK IS DONE IS BASICALLY JUST AN EXPANSION, IT IS GOING TO BE ATTRACTIVE. 
          IT WILL BE WELL UTILIZE, THAT PARKING LOT IS FULL EVERY FRIDAY, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY SO IT WILL BE HEAVILY USED. 
          BUT I THINK IT IS A GREAT PLAN. I'M THRILLED WITH IT. 
          LET'S GET IT DONE. I WAS GOING TO COME BACK TO THE DRIVE. THAT IS OKAY. 
          IF YOU REMEMBER, THERE WAS A DEAL. 
          >> YOU KNOW YOU REMIND ME OF THIS. 
          >> THE COUNTY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR 50% OF THIS. 
          AND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION HAD AGREED TO THIS. 
          WAS A HANDSHAKE DEAL, NOTHING IN WRITING BUT THEY AGREED. 
          I THINK THE COUNTY COMMISSION ACTUALLY AGREED TO THIS. 
          >> WITH BENEFITS TO THE COURT SYSTEM, IT MAKES SENSE. 
          >> WE NEED TO ADD THIS TO THE LIST WHEN WE MEET WITH THEM, TO 
          GET CONFIRMATION. >> HERE COMES ANOTHER! 
          >> THIS IS BEEN IN THE QUEUE FOR TWO YEARS NOW. 
          >> I HAD FORGOTTEN THAT. >> I WAS THERE FOR THIS CONVERSATION. SO THE REASON WAS IT WAS TO SUPPORT THE LINE. BUT REGARDLESS OF THAT, THE COUNTY NEEDS MORE PARKING FOR THE COURT SYSTEM BECAUSE THE COURT SYSTEM TAKES UP ALL THE PARKING IN DOWNTOWN FOR EVERY SQUARE INCH WITH HEAVY STUFF. SO WE CAN STILL PUSH A LOT OF 
          THAT. >> I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          WHAT WE PUSHED ON THIS ISSUE AND SOME OF THE COMMENTS CAME BACK WHERE WE ARE TO GOING TO MOVE OUR THING OVER TO VIRGINIA AVENUE. WELL TEN YEARS FROM NOW, WHENEVER THAT MIGHT BE DONE AND THE TAXPAYERS HAVE BEEN BURDENED WITH ANOTHER COUPLE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN PUBLIC EXPENSE, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO UNTIL THEN? THAT WAS THE COMMENT. SO EVERYBODY CAPITULATED AND SAID FINE, WILL GOING FOR 50% OF THE PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS. 
          IT IS A PERMANENT LOT, THIS WILL BE WITH CURVES AND ALL THE RIGHT STUFF, IT IS NOT ONE OF THESE DIRT LOTS. 
          BUT THE COUNTY, WE HAD A PROJECTED NUMBER THE TIME OF HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. THAT INCLUDE SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT JACK HAD COOKED UP OR A WALKWAY UNDER THE BRIDGE ET CETERA. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE LAND CAPACITY NOW TO DO THAT BECAUSE THE LAND WAS ABOUT 3000 SQUARE FEET OF LAND THAT WE WERE GOING TO BUY FROM THEM TO CREATE THE TURNAROUND. WE CANNOT DO THAT NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT LAND. AND THEY ARE NOT SELLING IT. 
          THERE'S NO INTEREST ON THEIR PART. 
          THEY'RE SELLING THE ENTIRE BUILDING. 
          WITH ALL OF THE LAND. BECAUSE THEY WANT THE LANDMASS THEIR CASE ON WHAT HE WANTS TO BUILD VERTICALLY OR CONDOS OR 
          SOMETHING. >> HERE COMES THE CAVALRY! 
          >> TALK TO IT SOMEHOW BECAUSE MARK IS COMING TO CORRECT IT. 
          >> YES, SIR? >> WHERE WAS I WRONG? 
          >> JAX VERY PRELIMINARY IS NOT VERY FEASIBLE. 
          WE ARE GOING KIND OF SIMILAR BUT WE HAVE TO WORK WITHIN THE CONFINES. ONCE WE LOST THE 3000 FEET OF LAND OVER THERE, THE TURNAROUND WASN'T WORKING. 
          BUT THAT IS NOT THE MAIN POINT. THE MAIN POINT IS THE COUNTY HAS TO WRITE A CHECK FOR 50% OF THIS. 
          SO SOON AS WE GET THE PLANS DONE AND BIDS DONE, WE HAVE TO GO 
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BACK. I DON'T WANT TO REMIND THEM OF THE PROJECT WHEN LOOKING FOR THE MONEY, WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. ARNOLD, ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT 
          THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT THERE. >> I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING. 
          [LAUGHTER] >> I WAS PRESENT WHEN THE DISCUSSION TOOK PLACE, O O ONE F THEM TOOK PLACE BETWEEN THEM AND GEORGE LANDRY AND GEORGE LIKE, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, RAN FOR 50% OF IT. THE PROBLEM IS WHAT WE'RE SAYING WITH THE COURTHOUSE. CLEARLY THEY WOULD BE THE PRIMARY BENEFICIARY. YOU WILL NOT BE PARKING DOWN 
          THERE TO SHOP DOWNTOWN. >> I'M NOT IN DISAGREEMENT. 
          >> I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SHOW ME THE MONEY. 
          THAT'S THE NEXT CONVERSATION, IT WILL BE SHOW ME THE MONEY. 
          >> YOU HAVE ADDED THAT TO YOUR LIST OF 2500 ITEMS, MR. CHESS? 
          >> BETTER RENTED A COUPLE FLOORS AT A HOTEL SOMEPLACE. 
          >> RIGHT. LET'S SEE. 
          WE ARE ON JETTY PARK, RIGHT? AND ANYMORE QUESTIONS ON JETTY PARK WEST? IS THERE A MOTION? 
          >> MOTION TO APPROVE. >> SECOND. 
          >> MOTION AND A SECOND, COLOR ROLE PLEASE. 
          [A.  May 2026 FPRA Program & Activities Summary]
          >> MR. CHESS? >> I HAVE NO COMMENTS. 
          >> NO COMMENTS, THANK YOU. >> I GUESS NOBODY ELSE. 
          AND YOU'VE GOT A NICE PROGRAM AND ACTIVITY SUMMARY. 
          [10. BOARD COMMENTS]
I ALWAYS LOVE THOSE. AND THEN BOARD, WE'RE GOING ON TO BOARD, ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? 
          >> I HAD SOMETHING...  SO MADAME MAYOR, TWO THINGS. 
          NEXT WEEK, AS YOU ALL KNOW -- AND I HAVE THE DISTRICT, MAY 20TH. AND I THINK THAT AS WE TAKE THOSE EFFORTS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A GREAT EVENT THERE, I'M CONFIDENT THAT STAFF WILL HAVE A WORK PLAN THAT WILL ALLOW FOR US TO HAVE A VERY NICE EVENT WITH PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE THERE, THOSE PEOPLE NOT DISTURBED BY PEOPLE THAT ARE RESIDENTS LIVING IN OUR PARKS. OF COURSE IN MY ONE-OFF, TALKING WITH STAFF, MAKING SURE THAT I'M SUPPORTING THAT. 
          ANOTHER THING, THIS IS KIND OF GETTING INTO OUR COMMISSION WORK, I HAVE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC WORKS. I THINK WE HAVE ALL -- I KNOW I HAVE, ON CALLS ABOUT TRASH PICKUPS. 
          AND I KNOW THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS GOING ON. 
          BUT I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED TO TRY TO HAVE SOMETHING PUBLIC FACING. I KNOW WE HAVE DONE IT ONCE BUT PEOPLE GET REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT THEIR GARBAGE NOT BEING PICKED UP. AND AS LITTLE AS IT IS,, EVEN SOME OF THE REFUGE, RIGHT? SO I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME WORK PLANS AND MAYBE SOME THINGS YOU ARE WORKING DOWN THERE. 
          BUT IT IS JUST SOMETHING CONSTANT THAT I'M HEARING AND I WANT TO LET MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS KNOW THAT, I'M HEARING IT. AND SO WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THAT TIME COMES, WE TRULY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON DOWN THERE BECAUSE I THINK WE ARE FACING SOME OF THE SAME CHALLENGES FACED WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR PERSONNEL AND SCOOPED AWAY TO GET TO TRAINING. AND YET, WE ARE AT A DEFICIT SOMETIMES WHEN IT COMES TO GETTING BODIES ACTUALLY IN THE TRUCKS TO MAKE THESE ROUTES. AND THAT IS A CHALLENGE. 
          >> LAST THING THING I WILL SAY, IN OUR AREA, THE BLACKBURN BUILDING HAS GONE UNDER EXTENSIVE RENOVATION AND PATCHWORK. THERE WAS A BIG FEDERAL STATE GRANT THAT IT SPECIFICALLY GOT. SO THE USOS GRANT FUNDS TO DO A LOT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND HELP WITH THE INTERNET AND ALL OF THAT STUFF THEY NEED TO REALLY DO TO BRING THAT CAMPUS TO INCLUDE AN OUTSIDE FACADE CLEANUP AND PAINT THE BUILDING, IT LOOKS REALLY NICE. AND MY CONVERSATIONS WITH HER MORE, THERE WILL BE A BIG RIBBON CUTTING OF THAT, I'M SURE WE WILL GET SOME GAS FROM THE NORTH COME DOWN HERE BECAUSE THEY FUNDED THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT. SO JUST BEEN A LOOKOUT FOR THAT. 
          BUT WITH THAT SAME VEIN, WE OWN THAT BUILDING THAT IS NEXT TO IT. AND IT IS IN DESPERATE NEED OF SOME LOVE AND CARE. SO I'M JUST ASKING THAT WE GET OUR BUILDING CLEANED UP BEFORE WE HAVE GUESSED FROM THE NORTH COME IN HERE TO CUT A RIBBON AND OUR BUILDING LOOKS -- THE GYMNASIUM. MAY BE PRESSURE WASH, A LITTLE 
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PAINT HERE AND THERE, A LITTLE FACADE IMPROVEMENT BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE GUESSED FROM THE NORTH COME IN WHEN THEY OPEN THAT BUILDING UP AND CUT THE WRITTEN UP. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY WE WILL ALL BE INVITED BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP. WE THINK ABOUT AROUND JUNE OR JULY, SOMETHING IN THAT TIME FRAME, WE WILL KEEP YOU 
          POSTED. >> I'M GETTING A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR RIBBON-CUTTING FOR NORTHRIDGE. 
          AND IT IS OPENING ON MAY 15TH, SUPPOSEDLY. 
          BUT MR. CHESS, I COPIED YOU. SAYING IT IS GOING TO BE IN 
          2027. >> I SAW THAT, YES. 
          >> BECAUSE SOME OF THE STRIPING ISN'T DONE FOR THE BIKE LANES AND THE SIDEWALKS AND THAT SORT OF STUFF. 
          IT IS NOT TOTALLY DONE, IT WILL BE OPEN -- IS THAT WHAT YOU 
          SAID? >> IT IS FULLY CONSTRUCTED, THEN THEY WILL HAVE THE RIBBON-CUTTING. 
          NOW YOU DRIVE ON THE OTHER THE ROAD YOU WANT TO, OKAY. 
          >> ONE CAR AT A TIME. [LAUGHTER] 
          >> DISCUSS IT WITH THE TPO. ANYTHING ELSE? 
          >> THE CHRIS JOHNSON MEMORIAL. >> IT'LL BE THE SUMMERLIN BRIDGE THE SUMMERLIN FAMILY BRIDGE. ARE WE ADJOURNING? LET'S G
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