[A. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance 26-011 — Review and approval of a Voluntary Annexation by owner HEC Selvitz LLC, to extend the territorial limits of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, to include two (2) parcels 2431-113-0002-000-1 and 2431-505-0000-200-2, generally located at or near Selvitz Road and Glades Cut-Off Road, within the City of Fort Pierce, Florida, and representing approximately 10.53 acres of land more or less. FIRST READING]

PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE HAVE A LEGISLATIVE HEARING.

26-011 AN ORDINANCE EXTENDING THE TERRITORIAL LIMITS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA TO INCLUDE TWO PARCELS CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 10.53 ACRES GENERALLY LOCATED AT OR NEAR SELVITZ ROAD AND-- CUT-OFF ROAD AND SHOWN ON EXHIBIT A.

COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER TO ASSESS SAID PROPERTY AND PLACE IT ON THE CITY TAX ROLES AS OF JANUARY 1 2027 DRAFTING ST.

LUCIE COUNTY TAX COLLECTOR COLLECT TAXES ON HEARING DESCRIBED PROPERTY. DIRECTING FIRING AND ORDINANCE WITH THE CLERK AND CIRCUIT COURT.

AND CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER TO BE FILED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE AND SUBMITTED TO THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC AND DEMOGRAPHIC RESEARCH.

PROVIDING FOR THE-- CLAUSE PREPARING ORDINANCES OR PARTS THEREOF IN CONFLICT HEREWITH AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE

DATE. >> MS. COX, I ASSUME THERE WERE NO COMMENTS. NOBODY SIGNED UP.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YES. SIR.

PROCEED. >> GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS CHRIS-- YOUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.

SUBBING IN FOR KEVIN. AS HE IS WAY ON VACATION TO ENGLAND. TONIGHT WE BRING YOU THREE ITEMS. REGARDING THE SAME PROPERTY.

THE FIRST OF WHICH WILL BE ANNEXATION 2026 0002.

THE APPLICANT IS AJSELVITZ AND THIS IS A VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION.

THE APPLICANT. INTERPRETING.

THE LOCATION IS SOUTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION.

SOUTHWEST OF SELVITZ ROAD AND GLADES CUT-OFF.

DEALING WITH TWO PROPERTIES. CON TIFTING OF 10.35 ACRES.

CURRENTLY COUNTY LAND USE SIN DUST REAL AND ZONING IS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. THE VOLUNTARY PETITION TO ANNEX INTO THE CITY. AS YOU SEE FROM THE PROPERTY, WE ARE DEALING WITH TWO PROPERTIES.

LET'S CALL IT LIGHT BLUE. ACTUALLY REPRESENTS THE CITY LIMITS AS WE STAND TODAY. ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT IS UNINCORPORATED ST. LUCIE COUNTY.

OFF SELVITZ ROAD AND THE SECOND BEING THE LARGER OF THE TWO PARCELS. BECAUSE OF THE VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION. NATURE OF THIS APPLICATION.

THE FLORIDA STATE STATUTE 171-44 GOVERNANCE.

HOW WE ANALYZE THIS FROM A PLANNING POINT OF VIEW.

FOLLOWED BY THE FORT PIERCE CONFERENCE PLAN.

AND THEN FINALITY CITY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR ANNEXATION AND ZONING CONSISTENCY REQUIREMENTS.

FROM A STATUTORY ANALYSIS COMPLIANCE ANALYSIS, THERE ARE THREE CONDITIONS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.

CAN TAKE-- I BELIEVE IS THE WAY WE'LL SAY THAT TONIGHT.

AND IN THIS REGARD THE PARSELE IS CONTINUOUS TO THE MUNICIPAL BOUNDARY OF THE CITY LIMITS. IT'S COMPLETELY ENCLOSED IF YOU W WILL.

COMPACTNESS IS ANOTHER CRITERIA OUTLINED IN THE STATUTE.

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AND UNCLEAR PROTECTION. TO CLOSE ONE UP.

FROM THE COMPREHEND PLAN POINT OF VIEW WE WORK TO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OBJECTIVE 1.11.

REQUIRING ANNEXATIONS TO ADDRESS THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA.

WE PROMOTE EFFICIENT SERVICE DELIVERY.

DOES IT PROMOTE EFFICIENT SERVICE DELIVERY.

THE DELIVERY OF PUBLIC SERVICES WILL BE ADDING A LEVEL EQUAL OR BETTER THAN CURRENT PUBLIC SERVICE.

THE SECOND CRITERIA IS THE ABILITY OF THE CITY TO PROVIDE PUBLIC SERVICES AT THE CITY'S ADOPTED LEVEL OF SERVICE.

WATER IN. WASTE WATER SERVICES AVAILABLE TO THE SITE. SERVICE CONNECTION IS FEASIBLE VIA EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. NO ADDITIONAL DEMANDS ON CITY SERVICES AS NO ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENTS PROPOSED.

INDICATING DEFICIENCIES. BOTH CONCURRENT ANAL SXIS CAPACITY VERIFICATION. THE THIRD CRITERIA IS ELIMINATING AND INCORPORATED ISLAND.

THE PROPERTIES AS I MENTIONED EARLIER ARE ENTIRELY SURROUNDED BY THE MUNICIPAL LIMITLES OF THE CITY.

AND THE FOURTH CRITERIA IS AVOIDING CREATION OF ENCLAVS OR IRREGULAR BOUNDARIES AND AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS AN INFILL TYPE OF ANNEXATION THAT WOULD CLOSE UP.

AN ENCLAVE THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS.

OUR RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF POINT OF VIEW THAT FIRST AND FOREMOST. MISRECEIVE THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND ZONING DISTRICT.

WHICH WILL BE SUB GENT ITEMS THAT YOU CONSIDER THIS EVENING.

THESE DESIGNATION SHOWS ME CONSISTENT WITH COUNTY DESIGNATION. UNLESS OTHERWISE APPROVED.

UPON APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST FOR ANNEXATION.

SEPARATE ORDINANCES WILL ALLOCATION THE FORT PIERCE LAND USE AND ZONING DISTRICT. AND THE CITY COMMISSION-- I'M SORRY THE PLANNING BOARD FOR THE APPLICATION TO THE CITY COMMISSION WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.

AND IN THAT GUARD REGARD YOU NAY MAYE HAVE ONE OF THREE OPTIONS. THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

YOU MAY APPROVE THE REQUEST BOTH WITH AN ALTERNATIVE RECOMMENDATION OR YOU MAY DENY THE REQUEST.

THAT ENDS OUR PRESENTATION FOR THIS ANNEXATION AND I'M OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE.

>> QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD.

>> MADAM MAYOR. FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS DENNIS MURPHY WITH CULPEPPER INTERPRETING HERE AT FORT PIERCE REPRESENTING HE C SELL VISITS.

YOUR STAFF GAVE A GREAT REPORT TO ANNEXATION TO FILL IN A GAP LEFT OVER FROM I BELIEVE UTILITY ANNEXATIONS IN THE AREA. WAY BACK WHEN.

SO OUR CLIENTS ARE INTERESTED IN BECOMING MEMBERS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. THIS IS STEP ONE.

STEP TWO AND THREE WILL FOLLOW THIS SHORTLY.

AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE REGARDING

THIS PARTICULAR PETITION. >> THANK YOU SIR.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NO ONE, I'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION. CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION. >> JUST WANTED TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS IF IT'S OKAY. WHEN DOW THESE ANNEXATIONS AND I BROUGHT THIS UP SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO FINANCIAL REVIEW AS TO THE COST TO THE CITY.

NOW I'VE PREPARED SEVERAL DIFFERENT DOCUMENT AND I SAY KNOW IT DOES NOT MAKE US COMFORTABLE TO DO SO.

BUT IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THE PUBLIC PROCESS, WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL PROVIDE THESE TO THE CLERK.

MY QUESTIONS AND SOME OF MY OBSERVATIONS SO SHE CAN THEN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU TO MEET THE TERMS OF PUBLIC RECORDS LAW.

SO RATHER THAN GOING THROUGH ALL THIS BECAUSE MR. FREEMAN AND MR. CHESTER WERE NOT HERE, MY POSITION TONIGHT WAS TO TRY AND SECURE SUPPORT FROM MR. CHESS ON POLICY OPPORTUNITIES GOING FORWARD. AND HOW WE ANALYZE THESE TYPES OF ANNEXATIONS. THIS ONE IS IN PRETTY GOOD PLACE FOR THIS TYPE OF ANNEXATION.

AND THE COUNTY BEARS MOST OF THE PROBLEMS AND ISSUES WITH ROADWAY. AND I KNOW THAT ENGINEERING WAS WORKING ON. THE FUTURE ROADWAY SYSTEM FROM EDWARDS TO MIDWAY. WHICH WILL SUPPORT THIS IN THE FUTURE. THE ONE QUESTION I DID HAVE, AND IT HAS TO DO WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS.

AND MAYBE WE CAN ASK THOSE QUESTION AND MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER AGENDA ITEMS THAT ARE COMING FORWARD.

BUT I WANTED TO GET THAT OUT AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION

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BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US.

AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND GROW, THAT ANNEXATIONS ARE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR US TODAY AND THEN GOING FORWARD.

BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE STRAPPED FROM WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE STATE. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN AFFORD TO DO THE ANNEXATIONS.

JUST GETTING TAX REVENUE ON THE BOOKS DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO COVER THE COST OF THE SERVICE.

SO THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR AND I WILL SUBMIT THESE TO THE CLERK.

>> ALL RIGHT. WE DO HAVE AN ANNEXATION STRATEGY. AND PROBABLY YOU WEREN'T HERE WHEN WE-- IT'S SORT OF BEEN EVOLVING.

SO WE DO HAVE A STRATEGY. COMMISSIONER GAINES?

>> I DO WANT TO SAY SOMETHING. COMMISSIONER DZADOVSKY I LOVE YOUR OVERSIGHT TO COME IN AND LOOK AT EVERYTHING DIFFERENT AS A NEW SET OF EYES. BUT I JUST ASK A FAVER.

THESE AGENDAS GO OUT WEDNESDAY NIGHT BY 5.

WHEN DOW YOUR REVIEW. CAN YOU GIVE US WHATEVER THE QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO GIVE PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE.

GIVE IT TO US TWO OR THREE DAYS AFTER THE AGENDA SO THAT GIVES ME TIME AND THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS TIME TO SEE WHAT YOUR QUESTIONS ARE. WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE SO WE CAN HAVE A BETTER DIALOGUE. NOT SAYING NOT TO DO IT.

BUT IF YOU GIVE ME SOMETHING THE NIGHT OF THE COMMISSION MEETING, I HAVE NO CHANCE TO REVIEW IT.

TRIED TO LISTEN TO YOU. SO I THINK IF THE DIALOGUE YOU ARE DESIRING IF YOU GIVE IT TO US EARLIER.

I THINK YOU'LL GET THE DIALOGUE THAT YOU'LL DESIRE BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTIONS AND WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO GO. AND WE HAVE THE DIALOGUE AND THE CHANGE REQUIRED. I CAN'T CALL YOU AND SAY-- UNLESS I GOT IT. OR E-MAIL YOU AND SAY OKAY I UNDERSTAND. WE CAN'T DO THAT.

SO JUST GIVE US A LITTLE MORE TIME.

BY THAT WAY ALSO TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR THE PUBLIC.

THAT ONCE YOU GIVE IT TO US IT BECOMES ON THE RECORD PRIOR TO THE MEETING SO EVERYBODY CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING

FROM. >> THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR IF I MAY. SOME OF THE CHALLENGE THAT I FACED IN DOING THE RESEARCH IS THAT THE LINKS AREN'T LIVE FOR THE AGENDA ITEMS. I GET THE DRAFT FIRST AND THEN I GET THE FULL AJEB DA WITH THE LINKS.

IT TAKESMY LONG TIME TO GO THROUGH THE LINKS AND READ ALL THE DOCUMENTS. IT DOES TAKE ME A LOT LONGER TO DO THAT IN MY OLD AGE. BUT I WILL DO MY BEST TO DO

EXACTLY WHAT YOU'VE ASKED SIR. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> IS THERE A DISCUSSION ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM?

AND IS THERE A MOTION? >> I'M GOOD.

I MOVE APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE ROLE PLEASE.

>> COMMISSIONER BROADERICK? >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER DZADOVSKY. >> YES.

[B. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance No. 26-012: An Ordinance by the City Commission of the City of Fort Pierce, Florida; amending the Future Land Use Map of the Comprehensive Plan to change the designation of two (2) parcels generally located at or near Selvitz Road and Glades Cut-Off Road from St. Lucie County Future Land Use of IND (Industrial) to City of Fort Pierce Future Land Use of HI (Heavy Industrial). FIRST READING]

AN ORDINANCE EXTENDING-- AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF TWO PARCELS CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 10.53 ACRES GENERALLY LOCATED AT OR NEAR SELVITZ ROAD AND GLADES CUTOFF ROAD SHOWN ON EXHIBIT A FROM ST. LUCIE COUNTY SHOWN ON FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATED INDUSTRIAL.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> PROCEED. >> GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

AGAIN MY NAME IS CHRIS EDSON I'M YOUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PLANNING SUBBING IN FOR CONSERVATIVE.

WE ARE DISCUSSING THE SAME PARCEL.

AND THIS REGARD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LAND USE DESIGNATION THAT PREVIOUS PRESENTATION CALLED FOR.

AGAIN WE HAVE SIMILAR INFORMATION JUST TO EMPHASIZE THE FUTURE LAND USE AND THAT'S THE TALK OF THIS DISCUSSION.

THE COUNTY HAS THIS AS AN INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY.

REQUEST TO AMEND THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

OUR MAP. TO CHANGE DESIGNATION FROM COUNTY DESIGNATION TO A FORT PIERCE FUTURE LAND USE OF HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. AGAIN THE LOCATION MAP OF GLADES CUT-OFF AND SELVITZ ROAD THERE IN THE MIDDLE.

THIS IS A COMPOSITE FUTURE LAND USE BETWEEN BOTH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY. THE PARCEL HIGHLIGHTED IN RED.

THOSE PROPERTIES IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDING THE PARSE RL DESIGNATED FUTURE LAND USE OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY INDUSTRIAL.

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OR SURROUNDING CITY FUTURE LAND USE OF HEAVY INDUSTRIAL OR INDUSTRIAL. THOSE WOULD BE REPRESENTED BY THE I1 AND THE I3 DESIGNATIONS ON THE MAP.

NO I'M SERE HEAVY H.I. DESIGNATIONS ON THE MAP, PARDON ME. IN SUMMARY, THE SUBJECT PARCEL CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 10.5 ACRES LOCATED WITHIN AN ESTABLISHED INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR ALONG SELVITZ ROAD.

CURRENTLY VACANT AND UNDER COUNTY JURISDICTION WITH AN EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE OF INDUSTRIAL.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT THE CITY LAND USE BE DESIGNATED AS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. CONCURRENT WITH THE ANNEXATION AND ZONING ASSIGNMENTS. AGAIN SURROUNDING LAND USES INCLUDE THE-- LAND RAIL TO THE NORTH WITH COUNTY INDUSTRIAL ACROSS FROM THERE. TO THE SOUTHEAST AND WEST CITY INDUSTRIAL USES WITH I1 ZONING WITH HEAVY INDUSTRIAL INDUSTRIAL AND INDUSTRIAL FUTURE LAND USE.

THE AMENDMENT IS TO FAIL SIT FUTURE INDUSTRIAL USE WITH HEAVY INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATIONS NAMELY ASPHALT PRODUCTION FACILITY. WHICH ALIGNS WITH THE ESTABLISHED INDUSTRIAL CHARACTER OF THE AREA.

PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 163 OF FLORIDA STATUTE MINIMUM IS CURRENTLY CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE WORK QUEST DOES NOT EXCEED MAXIMUM DENSITY OF THE INDUSTRIAL LAND USE CATEGORY. PUBLIC FACILITIESIES ARE AVAILE AND WILL BE PROVIDED WITH CONCURRENT LAND DEVELOPMENT.

AND SUPPORTS ORDERLY GROWTH AND EFFICIENT LAND USE PATTERNS.

WHICH HAVE IN THE CHART COMPARISON OF WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER COUNTY DESIGNATION LAND USE.

AND CITY LAND USE DESIGNATION. AS YOU CAN SEE COUNTY LAND USE ALLOWS A FLOOR AREA RATIO THAT'S ABOUT ONE UNIT HIGHER THAN THAT OF THE CITIES AT 2.0 AND SO ULTIMATELY THIS WOULD BE A REDUCTION OF AN AMOUNT OF INDUSTRIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT COULD BE BUILT ON THE PROPERTY. IN CONCLUSION PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH REQUIREMENTS OF FLORIDA STATUTE 1633177. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENTS.

THE SITE IS WITHIN AN ESTABLISHED INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR. THE AMENDMENT DOES NOT SUPPORT URBAN SPRAWL. IT SUPPORTS-- DEVELOPMENT.

IT PROMOTES EFFICIENT TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE USE. THE RECOMMENDATION THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO DESIGNATE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY DESIGNATION OF INDUSTRIAL. UPON APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST OF THIS A SEPARATE ORDINANCE WILL ALLOCATE THE APPROPRIATE FORT PIERCE CONSISTENT ZONING DISTRICT.

THE PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD THIS APPLICATION WITH YOU WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE. AND AGAIN THE COMMISSION CAN APPROVE THE REQUEST AS PROPOSED.

WHICH IS THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

YOU COULD APPROVE THE REQUEST AS AN ALTERNATIVE

RECOMMENDATION. >> QUESTIONS FROM STAFF?

>> MADAM MAYOR? >> YES, YES, SIR.

AS PART OF THIS. >> TO DESIGNATE WITH THE PRESENTATION. THERE ARE CERTAIN CRITERIA OF THE STATE STATUTE AND THE PLAN. REQUIRE OF ANNEXATION, LAND USE AMENDMENTS. WE REALLY GET INTO THE DETAILS AS SITE PLAN. THOSE ARE REVIEWED BY TECHNICAL STAFF. OR DRAINAGE AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS. BASIC ZONING REQUIREMENTS.

SO YES, COMMISSIONER BROADERICK OFTEN SAYS YOU ALL WILL HAVE

ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE. >> BECAUSE IT'S CONSISTENT WITH ALL THE OTHER INDUSTRIAL AREAS THERE.

I DON'T HAVE MUCH OF A CONCERN OF THE USE.

BUT WHAT PROTECTIONS EXIST FOR THE NEIGHBOURING PROPERTIES.

ASPHALT. IF IT'S ASPHALT, THERE'S SIGNIFICANT ODORS THAT COME FROM THIS? A LOT OF OIL-BASED COMPONENTS ARE PART OF THAT.

DO WE HAVE TO WAIT? THEN ALSO FOR SITE PLAN TO

APPROACH THAT? >> I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT INDUSTRY STANDARDS ARE GOING TO DICTATE SOME OF THOSE COMPONENTS AS WELL. THE APPLICANT IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO HAVE TO BE REQUIRED TO DEVELOP STORM WATER PLANS.

WITH PROTECTIONS FOR THE STORM WATER FLOWS THAT ARE IN THERE AND ULTIMATELY OUTFLOW INTO THOSE NORTH ST. LUCIE WATER CONTROL DISTRICT. NOW THAT IS NEARBY.

THAT HASN'T BEEN DETERMINED AS YET FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM

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THE APPLICANT. >> THAT WILL BE SIGNIFICANT FOR ME GOING FORWARD. TO MAKE THAT KNOWN FOR THE APPLICANT TONIGHT. HOW STORM WATER ON THAT PROJECT WILL BE DEALT WITH I THINK IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.

BECAUSE THE FIVE AND TEN MILE CREEK ARE ALL RIGHT SIGNIFICANTLY UNDER ATTACK. SO WITH CONTAMINANTS.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD.

>> COMMISSIONER, MADAM MAYOR, AGAIN FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS DENNIS MURPHY WITH THE FORM CULPEPPER INTERPRETING HERE AT FORT PIERCE HERE REPRESENTING HEC SELVITZ LLC.

TO GO BACK TO THE FRUIT ANALOGY MADE A MOMENT AGO.

THIS ESSENTIALLY IS AN APPLE TO AN APPLE REDESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY. WE'RE SIMPLY JUST CHANGING THE JURISDICTIONAL FROM COUNTY LINGO TO CITY LINGO.

THIS AREA HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN ZONED AND LAND PLANNED FOR HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES. IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TERMINOLOGY AND COMMISSIONER DZADOVSKY I DO ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR COMMENTS. WHEN WE BRING FORWARD OUR SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT PLANS AND WE CAN COME IN AND TALK LESS ABSTRACTLY AND MORE SPECIFICALLY, WE WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT STORM WATER AND ANY OTHER ISSUE THAT YOU MAY HAVE OUT THERE. LIKE I SAID, THIS IS SIMPLY JUST A SIMPLE SEMANTIC CHANGE. COUNTY INDUSTRIAL WHICH PRIOR TO-- I MEAN INDUSTRIAL DESIGNATION.

THIS WAS CLASSIFIED HEAVY INDUSTRIAL UNTIL 1988 THEN FLIPPED INTO THE INDUSTRIAL DESIGNATION.

PRIOR LIFE THAT'S HOW I KNOW THAT.

AND THEN COMING INTO THE CITY, WE GO BACK TO THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE OR UNIFORMLY INDUSTRIAL APPLIED IN DIFFERENT WAYS OF DOING IT.

THAT'S ALL THIS IS. APPLE TO APPLE.

>> THANK YOU SIR. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION PLEASE COME FORWARD.

ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU SIR.

I'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION AND FOR.

>> ONE QUICK QUESTION. CHRIS, THE ZONING ISSUE THAT WAS JUST DISCUSSED. IS THE ZONING THAT WE'RE TRANSFERRING US INTO THE CLOSEST COMPATIBLE ZONING?

>> THAT IS CORRECT. THAT IS OUR ANALYSIS.

BUT WE'LL BRING THAT UP IN THE NEXT PRESENTATION.

>> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OR IS THERE A MOTION? MOTION AND SECOND.

CALL THE ROLE PLEASE.

[C. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Ordinance No. 26-013: An Ordinance by the City Commission of the City of Fort Pierce amending the City's Zoning Atlas, rezoning two (2) parcels consisting of approximately 10.53 acres combined, and being generally located at or near Selvitz Road and Glades Cut-Off Rd, Fort Pierce, Florida, from St. Lucie County Zoning of IH (Industrial Heavy) to City of Fort Pierce Zoning of I-3 (Heavy Industrial). FIRST READING]

NEXT WE HAVE ORDINANCE THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING.

FOR ORDINANCE 2-013, AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE FLORIDA AMENDING THE CITY'S ZONING ATLAS AND REZONING TWO PARCELS CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 10.53 ACRES GENERALLY LOCATED AT OR NEAR SELVITZ ROADS IN GLADES CUT-OFF ROAD SHOWN ON EXHIBIT A FROM ST. LUCIE COUNTY ZONING DESIGNATION OF HEAVY INDUSTRIAL IH TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE DESIGNATION OF HEAVY INDUSTRIAL I3.

PROVIDING FOR SERVERABILITY CLAUSE REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT HEREWITH AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE

DATE. >> ALL RIGHT SO MS. HE THINKS,

WOULD YOU READ OUR PROCEDURES. >> YES THE CITY COMMISSION BOTH LEGISLATIVE AND QUASI-JUDICIAL ROLE.

WHEN ACTING AS A LEGISLATIVE BODY THE COMMISSION ENGAGES IN LAW MAKING ACTIVITY BY PASSING LAWS THE QUASI JUDICIAL BODY THE COMMISSIONER APPLIES THOSE POLICIES AND HELD STRICTER PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS. PROCEEDINGS BEFORE CIRCUIT COURT BUT ARE MORE FORMAL THAN THE COMMISSION MEETED METING.

THE CONFIDENCE SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.

THEREFORE THERE IS A DUTY FOR PROCEEDINGS.

MORE LIKE JUDGES THAN LEGISLATORS.

THAT IS WHY THE COMMISSION HAS ESTABLISHED THE PROCEDURES FOR QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS THAT WILL BE FOLLOWED THIS EVENING.

FINALLY, NO ONE SHOULD APPROACH ANY MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION ON THE DIAS. THE CITY ATTORNEY, THE CITY CLERK OR THE HEARING. THE DOCUMENTS ARE TO BE GIVEN TO THE CITY CLERK. WHICH ARE ANY OF THE POLICE OFFICERS IN THE CHAMBER. CAN YOU ASK COMMISSIONS ABOUT EXPAR-- COMMUNICATIONS? COMMISSIONER DZADOVSKY?

>> I'VE ONLY SPOKEN TO STAFF. CITY STAFF.

>> COMMISSIONER GAINES? >> NO, MA'AM.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSEN? >> NO, MA'AM.

>> MAYOR HUDSON. >> I WATCHED A PLANNING BOARD MEETING AND THAT'S IT. AND NOW WILL YOU SWEAR IN THE

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WITNESSS? ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU VERY MUCH?

>> PROCEED. >> GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

AGAIN MY NAME IS CHRIS EDDISON. I'M THINKING I'M YOUR ACTING DIRECTOR BUT I'M JUST GOING TO STAY ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF

PLANNING FOR THE TIME BEING. >> WELL YOU'RE THE WHOLE SHOW

TONIGHT. >> I TELL YA'.

REALLY HOPING CONSERVATIVE GETS BACK SOON.

AS THE CLERK READ, THE REQUEST THIS EVENING FOR THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF LAND THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED TO PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS IS TO AMEND THE ZONING ATLAS TO CHANGE THE ST.

LUCIE COUNTY ZONING OF HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE ZONING OF I3. WHICH IS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.

AGAIN THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION AND AGAIN SORT OF A-- ACTUALLY A COMPOSITE MAP OF BOTH CITY AND COUNTY ZONING. THE EXISTING COUNTY IS-- HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AND IH. AND THE SURROUNDING CITY ZONING IS I1 AND I3. THOSE ARE LIGHT AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL RESPECTIVELY. AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THE CITY HEAVY INDUSTRIAL I3 CATEGORY FOR THE SUBJECT P PARCEL. AGAIN THE SITE IS CURRENTLY VACANT WITH AN EXISTING ZONING DESTINATION OF HEAVY INDUSTRIAL WITH AN IH DESIGNATION. THE REQUEST IS TO ASSIGN A CITY ZONING DESIGNATION OF HEAVY INDUSTRIAL WHICH IS I3.

CONCURRENT WITH ANNEXATION AND ZONING ASSIGNMENT.

THE SURROUNDING LAND USES INCLUDING THE FAC RAILROAD TO THE NORTH AND COUNTY INDUSTRIAL.

AND THEN TO THE SOUTHEAST AND WEST THE CITY INDUSTRIAL USES OF I1 ZONING WITH HEAVY INDUSTRIAL FUTURE LAND USE AND INDUSTRIAL. THE AMENDMENT IS INTENDED TO FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN INDUSTRIAL USE CONSISTENT WITH HEAVY INDUSTIAL CLASSIFICATIONS.

NAMELY THE ASPHALT PRODUCTION FACILITY.

WHICH ALIGNS WITH WELL ESTABLISHED INDUSTRIAL CHARACTER OF THE CORRIDOR. SO UNDER CHAPTER 163 FOR A STATUTE WE ARE POINTING OUT A FEW THINGS TO LOOK AT.

FIRST OFF ZONING HAS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH HEAVY INDUSTRIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION.

ADEQUATE FACILITIES ARE AVAILABLE AND WILL BE PROVIDED CONCURRENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.

NO INCREASE IN INTENSITY ALLOWED BEYOND INDUSTRIAL STANDARDS AS PROPOSED AND JUST ON THE LAST POINT THERE AS YOU SAW FROM THE LAND USE TABLE THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THE LAST PRESENTATION THIS WAS ACTUALLY A DECREASE IN THE ALLOWABLE DEVELOPMENT FOOTPRINT THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED ON THE PROPERTY. AND THEN JUST TO POINT TO NUMBER TWO IN YOUR STAFF BACK UP THERE WERE SEVERAL ITEMS BOTH FROM FPUA AS WELL AS THAT PROVIDED THAT THERE WAS WATER AND SEWER AVAILABLE TO THE SITE.

THE PROPOSED LAND DESIGNATION OF HEAVY INDUSTRIAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY ZONING DESIGNATION OF HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. AGAIN THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMEND AID PRUVL OF THIS APPLICATION.

WHEN THEY REVIEWED IT BACK IN MAY.

AND THE OPPOSITION OF THE COMMISSION HAS AT THEIR DISPOSAL. THE ALTERNATIVE RECOMMENDATIONS OR TO DENY THE REQUEST. AGAIN I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY

QUESTIONS. >> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? OKAY. I'D LIKE FOR THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD PLEASE. AND TELL US ANYTHING YOU NEED

TO TELL US. >> MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS AGAIN FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS DENNIS MURPHY FIRM WITH CULPEPPER INTERPRETING HERE FOR PIERCE HERE REPRESENTING TONIGHT HEC SELVITZ LLC. MADAM MAYOR BACK TO MY PRIOR COMMENT IFS THAT'S ALLOWED. I THINK WE HAVE MADE IT CLEAR THIS IS A SIMPLE DESIGNATION CHANGE.

COUNTY TERMINOLOGY TO CITY TERMINOLOGY AND CITY STAFF PRESENTATION WAS FAIRLY SUCCINCT AND RIGHT TO THE POINT. THIS IS OUR FIRST READING OF TWO. WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU GIVE A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION AT THIS POINT AND THEN WHEN WE COME BACK FOR OUR SECOND READING, APPROVE A REQUESTED CHANGE IN ZONING. ONCE WE GET ALL OF OUR BACKGROUND STUFF AND THAT'S WHAT I'M CALLING THE ANNEXATION AND THE COMP PLAN AND THE REZONING.

THAT'S OUR BACKGROUND STUFF. OUR ENABLING LANGUAGE HERE, THEN WE'LL BE IN A POSITION TO BRING FORWARD OUR SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY.

AND AGAIN I THINK WE CAN ADDRESS ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT YA'LL MAY HAVE REGARDING THE PROPOSED USES AT THAT

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PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME. RIGHT NOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT TOO UNKNOWN TO GIVE YOU DEFINITIVE ANSWERS THAT I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. WE PREFER TO HAVE THE REAL PLAN IN FRONT OF YOU. AND WE WILL OF COURSE BE COORDINATING WITH YOUR STAFF AND TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU WISH TO, ALL PRYER TO COMING BACK WITH THE SITE PLAN.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'M HERE TO ANSWER THEM.

OTHERWISE I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN THREE OR TWO WEEKS. WHENEVER THE NEXT MEETING IS.

>> QUESTIONS OF THIS APPLICANT? YES.

>> MR. MURPHY YOU KNOW MY BACKGROUND AND HOW I'VE DEALT WITH THESE IN THE PAST. EXPECT SAME THING OR GREATER.

GOING FORWARD. >> YEP.

WE WILL TAKE CARE OF IT. THANK YOU.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? OKAY THANK YOU SIR. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD. AND YOU WERE SWORN IN, RIGHT? YEP, THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU. PLEASE COME FORWARD.

IF YOU WERE NOT SWORN IN, WE'LL HAVE TO SWEAR YOU IN.

>> DO YOU SWEAR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH THE WHOLE TRUTH AND

NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. >> I DO.

>> THANK YOU. >> STATE YOUR NAME FOR ME

PLEASE AND YOUR ADDRESS. >>-- 130 SOUTH INDIAN RIVER DRIVE SUITE 407. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK CITY COMMISSIONERS TO CHECK WITH APPLICANT IF IT WILL BE ASPHALT FACILITY MANUFACTURE. WILL CITY OF FORT PIERCE BENEFIT FROM THIS PRODUCT? OR WILL IT BE ALL SOLD TO SOUTH COMMUNITIES? LOCATED SOUTH FROM ST. LUCIE

COUNTY? >> SO YOU CAN ASK THE QUESTIONS. BUT WE DON'T ANSWER THEM.

SO YOU JUST TELL US WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE.

>> YES. BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE CITY OF FORT PIERCE TO BENEFIT FROM THIS PRODUCT.

BECAUSE CITY OF FORT PIERCE WILL NEED ROADS TO BE REPLACED AND NEED DEVELOPMENT INSIDE THE CITY TO BE BUILT.

SO WE NEED THE ASPHALT AS A ROAD BASE.

SO I WOULD LIKE THIS PRODUCT TO STAY SOMEHOW IN FORT PIERCE AS WELL. IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY TO MAKE BETTER FOR ALL RESIDENTS. OF THE CITY AND FUTURE RESIDENTS AS WELL. SO THAT'S MY CONCERN.

THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION.

AND DISCUSSION OR A MOTION? >> MADAM MAYOR I MOVE APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE ROLE PLEASE.

MA'AM ] >> THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR HUDSON. JUST FOR THE RECORD, I KNOW WE APPROVED BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD AND FUTURE WHEN RESIDENTS COME UP, I GUESS WE NEED TO EXPLAIN THAT SHE CAME YOU. SHE ASKED A QUESTION AND WE WENT RIGHT TO A VOTE AND VOTED. SOME TYPE OF EXPLANATION I THINK SOMETIMES SHOULD BE GIVEN JUST BECAUSE EVERYBODY DON'T KNOW OUR PROCEDURES AND SO IF I CAN, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST SAY WHEN THEY BRING BACK THEIR SITE PLAN, ALL THOSE QUESTIONS WILL

BE ANSWERED THEN. >> YEAH WE CAN'T ANSWER THEM

NOW. >> SO COME BACK NEBS TIME THEY'LL BE ANSWERED THEN. OKAY.

>> THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GAINES THAT'S A GOOD ADDITION.

[A. Resolution 26-R38 accepting the proposal of Regions Capital Advantage, Inc. to purchase the City's not to exceed $2.7 Million Solid Waste Facilities Revenue Note, Series 2026.]

OKAY WE'LL MOVE ON. >> NEXT WE HAVE RESOLUTION 26-R38 OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA ACCEPTING THE PROPOSAL OF REGIONS CAPITAL ADVANTAGE I THINK TO PURCHASE THE CITY'S NOT TO EXCEED $27 MILLION SOLID WASTE FACILITIES REVENUE NOTE SERIES 2026 PROCEEDS OF WHICH TO BE APPLIED TO FINANCE HEARING DEFINED PROJECT AND PAY COST OF ISSUING A 2026 NOTE. AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF LOAN AGREEMENT TO SECURE REPAYMENT OF THE 2026 NOTE. PROVIDING FOR THE PAYMENT OF THE 2026 NOTE FROM SOLID WASTE FACILITIES REVENUES ALL IS PROVIDED IN THE LOAN AGREEMENT. AUTHORIZING THE PROPER OFFICIALS OF THE CITY TO DO ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL THINGS DEEMED NECESSARY OR ADVISABLE IN CONNECTION WITH THE EXECUTION OF THE LOAN AGREEMENT. THE 2026 NOTE AND THE SECURITY THEREFORE AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF OTHER DOCUMENTS AND CONNECTION WITH THE 2026 NOTE PROVIDING FOR SERVERABILITY AND FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> MS. COX I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE SAID $27 MILLION INSTEAD OF 2.7. IF YOU DID I WANT TO MAKE SURE

WE CORRECT THE RECORD. >> $2.7 MILLION, YES.

>> IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENCE.

>> THANK YOU. >> MS. MORRIS?

>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS.

YOU DIDN'T GET THE DOCUMENT THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENT AS TO THE FUNDING BREAKDOWN FOR THIS LOAN BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET IT UNTIL THIS AFTERNOON. BUT IT IS A FIVE-YEAR LOAN FOR

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THE PURCHASE OF SIX REF USE TRUCKS THAT THE SOLID WASTE NEEDED. IT IS BUDGETED IN THE CIP FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR AT 666,000. INITIALLY THEY WERE GOING TO DO A LEASING PROGRAM WITH THE COMPANY TO PURCHASE THESE AND IT WAS GOING TO BE AT 4.95%. I TOOK IT TO MARKET TO SEE IF WE COULD GET A BETTER RATE AND WE DID.

WE GOT A FIVE-YEAR LOAN. AT 3.85%, SORRY FOR THOSE FIVE YEARS. SO WE ARE GOING TO-- IF APPROVED WE'LL PURCHASE USING THAT FINANCE SOURCE.

>> THIS IS ENTERPRISE FUND. >> RIGHT, CORRECT.

JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH TAX DOLLARS HERE. CORRECT.

OKAY. EITHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER I THINK I SAW YOU HAD 2500 THIS AFTERNOON.

QUESTIONS. >> YES, I DID.

>> PLEASE GO AHEAD. >> FIRST OF ALL THANK YOU FOR RETURNING MY E-MAIL. AND ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS THAT I HAD. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AND THIS IS MY FIRST TIME APPROVING SIGNIFICANT LOAN WITH THE CITY.

CONTINUE WITH THE FUTURE. BUT YOU ANSWERED SOME QUESTIONS TOO. WE OWN THOSE AND WE KNOW IT'S A CHALLENGE. AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT FOR US AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO BE ABLE TO FIX THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE. THE AVERAGE AGE IS ABOUT 12 YEARS OLD IS WHAT I SEE HERE. AND I THINK THAT IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT MAINTAIN THESE TRUCKS ON THE ROAD CONSTANTLY AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.

PLUS REPLACEMENT PARTS ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO GET AND TAKING THEM OUT OF SERVICE ENDS UP WITH A SITUATION THAT WE HAVE TODAY. WITH MISSING SOME NEIGHBOURHOODS AND SO FORTH. SOY JUST THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT TO BRING THOSE QUESTIONS FORWARD.

LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT THIS COMMISSION LISTENS TO THEM AND OUR STAFF AND YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS I KNOW I CONSTANTLY CONTACT MY COMMISSIONERS AND THE MAYOR ARE DOING THE SAME THING. BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE ARE WORKING ON THIS.

WE TOOK IT SERIOUSLY AND THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT MOVING FORWARD AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK ON THAT

TRASH ISSUE. >> GOOD.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER GAINS?

>> I'M JUST CURIOUS MADAM MAYOR AND DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

IF WE APPROVE THIS, HOW FAST CAN WE GET THESE TRUCKS? BECAUSE I'M JUST BEING HONEST WITH COMMISSIONER JUST SAID, BUT RESIDENTS ARE GETTING FRUSTRATED WITH GARBAGE NOT BEING PICKED UP. AND THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT TRUCKS HAVE BROKEN DOWN. THAT'S WHAT'S HERE TONIGHT SO I JUST WANT TO LET THEM HEAR WHAT'S A TURN AROUND TIME.

SO WE'LL KNOW-- I KNOW WE JUST CAN'T GO MAKE A TRUCK TOMORROW.

I GET THAT. BUT DO WE HAVE A TIME WHERE THE TRUCKS WILL BE DELIVERED OR THE TRUCK WILL BE IN SERVICE? SO WHEN I GET THESE E-MAILS I CAN START SAYING THE TRUCKS ARE COMING OR THEY ARE HERE OR SOME TYPE OF TIMELINE?

>> MS. MORRIS? MR. JOHNSON, OKAY.

>> MADAM MAYORS, COMMISSIONERS, YES, SIR.

ACTUALLY WE HAVE I BELIEVE THREE TRUCKS THAT ARE READY RIGHT NOW. WE JUST HAVE TO GET THEM IN PLACE IN ORDER TO PAY FOR THEM. AND THE WAY THAT-- SO THE PUBLIC IS AWARE, I KNOW MOST OF OUR COMMISSIONERS ARE AWARE.

TYPICALLY WHEN IT COMES TO REF USE VEHICLES POLICE CARS ET CETERA, THERE'S A YEAR WAITING TIME.

BETWEEN THE TIME THAT YOU PLACED THE ORDER AND GET THEM

DELIVERED. >> OUR DISTRICT HAS THE SAME THING. FIRE.

>> RIGHT SO THIS ACTUALLY STARTED APRIL OF LAST YEAR.

APRIL OF 2025 IS WHEN THIS WHOLE PROCESS STARTED AND WE'RE FINALLY COMING TO A CLOSE WHERE WE CAN GET THESE VEHICLES ON SITE AND IN OPERATIONS. BUT TO BE CLEAR, WE CURRENTLY HAVE THE MANUFACTURE HAS THREE THAT ARE READY FOR US.

SOLD US THEY ARE PAINTED AND READY TO ROLL.

WE'RE JUST WAITING TO SIGN SOME PAPE SOURCE WE CAN GET THOSE TRANSITION AND THE OTHER THREE WILL BE COMING SHORTLY AFTER

THOSE THREE ARE IN-HOUSE. >> THANK YOU.

>> YES, SIR. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT.

MADAM MAYOR? >> SO THE GENERAL COMMENT ON THAT AND I APPRECIATE ASSISTANT DEPUTY CITY MANAGER FOR THE COMMENTS. BUT I'M WANT TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN TO THIS COMMISSION. THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THIS. THIS IS NOT A TRUCK ISSUE.

WE ALSO HAVE A STAFFING ISSUE. AND THE TRUCK'S SITTING BRAND NEW NOBODY'S DRIVING THEM AIN'T GOING TO PICK UP TRASH.

SO WE GOT TO UNDERSTAND THAT. AND WE GOT TO GET TO THE MICRO LEVEL TO SEE WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A CLIFF THAT WE'RE FACING AGAIN.

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WE'VE FACED ONCE BEFORE WITH PERSONNEL.

AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW I WANT TO ASSURE THE PUBLIC THAT WE'RE USING TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY HOPEFULLY TECHNOLOGY TO HELP US MAKE SURE WE DON'T MISS ROUTES BECAUSE OFTENTIMES WHEN THINGS ARE MISSED, PRIVATE IN THE NEIGHBOURHOOD AND ET CETERA. AND THEY ARE JUST TRYING TO GET THROUGH THAT DAY AFTER THEY RUN THEIR ROUTES.

THAT'S MY CONCERN. AND AS WE GO INTO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN MADAM MAYOR, I WANT TO TAKE A REAL HARD LOOK BECAUSE OF OTHER ASPECTS HERE. ALMOST COMING OUT OF ENTERPRISE FUNDS FOR THE PUBLIC. ARE THOSE FUNDS THAT BASICALLY WE PAY YOUR GARBAGE BILL, THOSE ARE THE FUNDS THAT ARE USING TO PURCHASE THESE TRUCKS ET CETERA.

BUT NOT MY CONCERN TOO IS WHAT ARE MY TIPPING FEES AT THAT DUMP? WE'RE PICKING UP A LOT OF TRASH OUT HERE. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO MEET THE DEMAND FOR THE COMMUNITY TO PICK UP THE TRASH. BUT THAT TRASH IS HEAVY AND IT'S COSTING MORE MONEY TO DUMP.

BECAUSE EVERYBODY FEES ARE GOING UP.

AND HAVE GONE UP. THEY JUST DON'T SIT STILL BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

THEY ARE RUNNING A BUSINESS OUT THERE.

AND THE MORE TRASH WE PICK UP, THE MORE WE HAVE TO PAY TO DUMP THAT TRASH. SO I JUST HOPE TO HAVE THAT GOOD CONVERSATION. THANK YOU.

>> YES, SIR. MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, TWO COMMISSIONER JOHNSON'S POINT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER ITEM COME BEFORE YOU VERY SHORTLY AND IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED FLEET PATHS. AND THAT'S GOING TO ADDRESS THE ROUTING, THE FLEET-- ROUTING OF THE FLEET OPTIMIZING THEM.

THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT FUEL ECONOMY AND IMPACT ABILITY TO TRAIN DRIVERS WHEN THEY COME ON BOARD.

BECAUSE THEY WON'T HAVE TO MEMORIZE THE ROUTE.

THEY'LL HAVE IPAD OR DEVICE IN FRONT OF THEM GIVING TURN BY TURN DIRECTIONS AS TO HOW THIS ROUTE OPERATES.

SO WE'RE MODERNIZING THAT FLEET AND THAT SYSTEM TOTALLY FROM THE TOP DOWN. WITH REGARD TO THE STAFFING ISSUE, I THINK-- I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN A MONTH AGO.

BEEN OVER A MONTH AGO. I STOOD BEFORE YOU AND EXPRESSED TO YOU THAT ON AVERAGE AT THAT TIME WE HAD FIVE INDIVIDUALS ON STAFF THAT WERE IN DOUBLE DIGITS.

MEANING TEN YEARS OR MORE. TODAY WE HAVE FOUR THAT ARE ON STAFF. ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE ELSE BY MY CALCULATION IS 43 STAFF MEMBERS THERE.

ON AVERAGE 1.78 YEARS. JUST ALMOST TWO YEARS.

JUST UNDER TWO YEARS. THAT'S A PROBLEM.

ALL RIGHT. AND SO SOME OF THAT DEALS WITH-- YOU KNOW WE'RE PAIRING DRIVERS.

SOME DEALS WITH JUST THE SITUATION ABOUT HAVING TRUCKS AND EQUIPMENT. THERE'S A WHOLISTIC ISSUE THAT'S BEING ADDRESSED AND THIS IS JUST THE FOUNDATIONAL ASPECT OF DEALING WITH THAT. BUT ALL THAT'S BEEN ADDRESSED OUR HR MANAGER. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'LL BE DISCUSSING AND I THINK TO INFORM YOU ALL WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING A PRESENTATION BEFORE YOU AS TO UPDATES ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THAT DEPARTMENT.

THAT DIVISION SO DEFINITELY MORE INFORMATION WILL BE

FORTHCOMING. >> IT'S SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THE WAYS TAT OUR CITIZENS INTERACT WITH THE CITY. AND THE WAY THEY EVALUATE US.

MAYBE EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY SEE EVERY WEEK. SO WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS.

YEP. OKAY ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THIS ISSUE? IS THERE A MOTION?

>> APPROVAL. >> SECOND.

>> MOTION AND SECOND. CALL THE ROLE PLEASE.

[B. ADDED ITEM: Selection of City Attorney]

MA'AM ] OKAY THE NEXT ITEM IS THE ADDED ITEM OF SELECTION OF CITY ATTORNEY.

>> SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A CITY ATTORNEY AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. I THOUGHT THAT THIS COMMISSION SHOULD DISCUSS AND GIVE SOME DIRECTION.

OF HOW WE GO ABOUT IT. AND I DON'T KNOW MR. JOHNSON IF YOU'VE HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS AT ALL WITH HR ABOUT THIS? AND I WOULD BE HOPING THAT SOMEBODY WOULD BECAUSE THIS, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME FOR FINDING THIS PERSON AND WE NEED

T HAVE A CITY ATTORNEY. >> YES, MA'AM.

WE'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH HR AND I THANK YOU FOR INFORMING THIS OF THAT OR ADDING THIS ITEM TO THE AGENDA TONIGHT. BECAUSE YOU KNOW IN THE PAST WE'VE DEALT WITH IT EITHER ONE OR TWO WAYS.

AND ANY CHARTER OFFICER HIRING OR SEEKING CANDIDATES FOR CHARTER OFFICERS THAT'S BEEN EITHER INTERNAL, ACTUALLY WE'VE DONE THAT ONCE. MOST OF THE TIME IT'S BEEN EXTERNAL. SO HAVING DIRECTION AS TO WHICH WAY YOU WOULD LIKE STAFF TO GO IN SEEKING FULFILLING THIS

PPRECIATED. >> RIGHT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME TO WASTE. SO COMMISSIONERS?

>> I AGREE WITH THE ASSESSMENT WE NEED TO GET MOVING NOW.

>> WANT TO USE AN OUTSIDE FIRM? THINKING WE NEED TO FIND AN OUTSIDE FIRM. YEP.

>> MADAM MAYOR? >> YES, SIR.

>> I'D SUGGEST ALSO FLORIDA ASSOCIATION COUNTIES AND

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FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES HAS HUNDREDS OF ATTORNEYS ACCESS TO. I THINK WE SHOULD START THERE.

>> I THINK OUTSIDE USUALLY GOES THERE FIRST.

YEP. THEY KNOW THAT'S A RICH FIELD.

RIGHT. SO IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED-- ANY OTHER DIRECTION YOU NEED MR. JOHNSEN?

>> DIRECTION IS CLEAR. OUTSIDE OF THIS.

>> YEP WE NEED TO GET MOVING ON THIS.

ALL RIGHTY. WE'RE GOOD?

[14. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>> WE'RE GOOD. >> OKAY.

NEXT--. >> OKAY NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS

FROM THE PUBLIC. >> WELCOME MIKE.

>> HI. GOOD EVENING MADAM MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. MIKE CLAWS 1015 GATEWOOD-- ESTATES. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK FOR YOU ALL TO REVISIT AN ANIMAL CONTROL ORDINANCE PART OF 016-15 WHICH LACE OUT ALL THE RULES FOR PETS AND WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY GET OUT. JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, COUPLE OF PITBULLS GOT OUT AND CAME ONTO OUR STREET AND MAULED OUR CAT. SO WE WERE ABLE TO CONTAIN THE DOGS UNTIL ANIMAL CONTROL GOT THERE, BUT THE DOGS HAVE SINCE BEEN GIVEN BACK TO THE OWNERS. SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT REVISITED IF IT'S SOMEBODY'S PET, MAYBE THEY SHOULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A SAY IN WHAT GOES ON.

WE HAVE BEEN CARING FOR THE CAT FOR TWO YEARS.

IT WAS ONE OF SEVERAL-- WE'VE HAD AS COMMISSIONER DZADOVSKY KNOWS, WE HAVE A STRAY CAT PROBLEM IN OUR NEIGHBOURHOOD.

WE'VE ROUNDED UP SIX OR SEVEN OF THEM OURSELVES.

BROUGHT THEM AND HAD THEM SPAYED AND NEWTERED SO THAT THEY CAN CURB THE POPULATION. BUT WE TOOK ONE IN, ANOTHER NEIGHBOUR TOOK A COUPLE IN. WE GAVE THEM HOMES.

HAD THEM ALL CHECKED OUT. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE RULES BE MADE A LITTLE TIGHTER. TO GIVE A DOG THAT'S ALREADY ATTACKED SOMEBODY'S PET A CHANCE IF THEY GET OUT AGAIN, HAD I GOT TLN SOONER AND I HAD PICKED UP THAT CAT, I COULD HAVE BEEN MAULED. SO MY WHOLE THING IS WHY ARE WE GIVING DOGS THAT ARE KNOWN TO BE VICIOUS SECOND OPPORTUNITIES TO POSSIBLY ATTACK A PERSON? SO THAT IS WHAT I'M ASKING FOR TODAY. JUST TO MAYBE REVISIT THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE THE CAT MEANT A LOT TO US.

I UNFORTUNATELY CAME HOME FROM PIGGING UP MY GRANDKIDS AT THE BUS STOP WHEN THIS ALL WENT DOWN.

AND I IMMEDIATELY DROPPED WHAT I WAS DOING, RAN OVER THERE AND JUMPED INTO THE MELEE AND WAS GRABBING DOGS AND IT WAS NOT FUN. SO THAT IS WHAT I'M ASKING FOR.

>> THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU FOR COMING.