Oct 19, 2026 City Commission Regular Meeting

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>> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER A PLATE THIS I THE CITY AS WE WENT COMMISSION AND ITS MONDAY OCTOBER 19TH, 2026 TRADE PLEASE STAND FOR THE OPENING PRAYER BY PASTOR CHRIS FOGAL TREASURE COAST CHRISTIAN ALLIANCE AND REMAIN STANDING FO

THE PLEDGE. >> IF I COULD ASK YOUR INDULGENCE FOR A BRIEF MOMENT O SILENCE, OUR COMMUNITY LOST A PASTOR WHO SPENT QUITE A FEW YEARS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

HE WAS PASTOR OF THE CROSSING CHURCH AND ALSO IN LIQUID PART PERIODS SO IF YOU WOULD JUST FROM A SILENT.

FATHER GOD, WE COME TO YOU TODA AND WE JUST PRAY LORD FOR GODLY WISDOM AND SPIRITUAL DISCERNMEN IN ALL THE DECISIONS THAT ARE BEFORE THE, LORD PRAY TO GIVE OUR LEADERS THE GUIDANCE THAT THEY NEED, LORD WE PRAY FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY, WE PRA FOR THE HOMELESS IN OUR COMMUNITY, LORD PRAY TO THERE ARE SHELTERS HERE FOR THE HOMELESS, WE PRAY THAT WE PRAY FOR THE BUSINESSES LORD IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT EMPLOY SO MANY.

WE PRAY THAT THE BUSINESSMAN WILL MEET AND EXCEED THEIR GOAL THIS YEAR AND HELP THIS COMMUNITY CONTINUE TO GROW AND THRIVE. FOR THE TOUGH DECISIONS FACING THE CITY COUNCIL, WE PRAY FOR GODLY WISDOM AND SPIRITUAL DISCERNMENT SO THAT THE DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE ARE DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE RIGHTLY AND JUSTLY.

WE PRAY FOR THE CITIZENS OF THI COMMUNITY, MAKE THE CITY, BUT I IS TO PAY. LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSINGS YOU HAVE GIVEN THIS COMMUNITY, OUR BEACHES, OUR COMMUNITY IS GROWING BEYOND WHA WE IMAGINE 20 OR 30 YEARS AGO AND WE THANK YOU FOR THESE BLESSINGS.

LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE MAYO AND THE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL THAT HAVE GIVEN OF THEIR TIME T SERVE THIS COMMUNITY THEY LOVE THIS COMMUNITY AND WANT TO DO WHAT'S BEST, SO LORD, BE WITH THEM TODAY AND BE WITH ALL OF THOSE IN THE CHAMBERS HERE THAT YOU WOULD GUIDE THEM, GUIDE DISCUSSIONS, GUIDE AGREEMENTS AND EVEN DISAGREEMENTS. WE PRAY THIS IN THE NAME ABOVE ALL NAMES, JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD , AMEN I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH I STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> CALL THE ROLE, PLEASE,.

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

GET ME FOR APPROPRIATE. >> A MOTION NSI COMPARED CALL

THE ROLE-PLAYS. >>

[A. Careers in Construction Month, Treasure Coast Builders Association]

WHEREAS CAREERS AND CONSTRUCTIO MONTH IS AN ANNUAL MONTH DESIGNATED TO HELP INCREASE PUBLIC AWARENESS OF THE OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE IN THE CONSTRUCTION TRADES PERFECTIONS.

AND WHEREAS DURING THIS MONTH, EMPLOYERS ASSOCIATIONS AND SCHOOLS ARE ENCOURAGED TO CONDUCT A CHILD PAIRS, PANEL DISCUSSIONS AT LOCAL COMMUNITY INTENDS TO INFORM STUDENTS OF THE VAST EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES IN CONSTRUCTION.

WHEREAS THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY IS ONE OF OUR NATION'S LARGEST INDUSTRIES EMPLOYING MORE THAN 5 BILLION INDIVIDUALS IN THE U.S., AND WHEREAS WE ARE PLEASED TO HONOR THE CONSTRUCTION TRADES PROFESSIONA AND THE CRITICAL ROLE THEY PLAY IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF FLORIDA. WHEREAS THROUGH A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT THAT REACHES POLICYMAKER AS WELL AS LOCAL EDUCATORS IN HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, THE ASSOCIATION'S GOAL IS TO EFFECTIVELY ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO CHRONIC LABOR SHORTAGES AND MISPERCEPTIONS OF CAREERS AND CONSTRUCTION TO DEVELOP A .

WHEREAS THE NAHB STUDENT CHAPTERS PROGRAM IS DEDICATED T ENRICHING THE EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE OF STUDENTS BY OFFERING THEM FIRST-HAND EXPOSURE THROUGH NAHB MEMBERSHI EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM AND NETWORKING OPPORTUNITIES.

THERE FOR I WIND UP ABSENT, TO PROCLAIM OCTOBER 2026 THIS CAREERS AND CONSTRUCTION MONTH IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN ME IN THE SPECIAL OBSERVANCE.

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>> CONGRATULATIONS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH GREAT TICKET WHICH LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS?

>> MB EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF THE TREASURE COAST BUILDERS ASSOCIATION ALSO OF THE TREASUR COAST BUILDERS ASSOCIATION CHARITABLE FOUNDATION. JIM IS MY DIRECTOR IN I WILL LE HER SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT WHAT WE DO TO HELP ORIENT PEOPLE IN

OUR COMMUNITY. >> THANK YOU FOR THE RECOGNITIO THIS MONTH. WE WORKED TO BRING THIS SKILLED TRADES TO YOUNG ADULTS TO OUR COMMUNITY IN TO SHOW THEM THAT THEY ARE FIRST CHOICE CAREERS AND THIS IS DONE BY OUR CAREERS AND CONSTRUCTION WEEK PROGRAM I THE SUMMER WHICH IS TOTALLY FRE TO THEM TO LEARN NEW SKILLS AND GET SOME JOB COACHING AND MENTORSHIP AND ALSO DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR TO GET INTO THE SCHOOLS AND PROVIDE THE HANDS-O TRAINING WITH HER ASSOCIATION MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT ALSO PROVIDE JOBS

. >> WE APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. >> WE DID NOT HAVE ACTUALLY HAV

[8. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

ADDITIONS OR TO THE AGENDA. >> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MOVING TO SET THE AGENDA IS PRINTED.

>> CALLED THE ROLES, PLEASE,. >>

[11. CONSENT AGENDA]

>> WE DID NOT HAVE ANYBODY SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT SO WE WIL

MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> ANY ITEM THAT COMMISSIONER WOULD LIKE TO PULL? IF NOT I WILL ENTERTAIN MOTION

FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> MOVED TO THE APPROVAL OF THE

CONSENT. >> A MOTION AND THE SECOND.

CALLED THE ROLE, PLEASE. TRANSECTS.

[A. Resolution 26-R64 approving an Interlocal Agreement between St. Lucie County and the City of Fort Pierce for use of Khalil Mack Football Field, located at 1112 Avenue M, Fort Pierce, Florida.]

>> B HAVE A RESOLUTION BY THE CITY COMMISSION AT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA AUTHORIZIN THIS CITY OF FORT PIERCE TO FURTHER USE AND OPERATION OF TH FOOTBALL FIELD AND RELATED FACILITIES LOCATED AT 1112 AVENUE M FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA PROVIDING FINDINGS PROVIDING AUTHORIZATION FOR PEELING ALL REVOLUTIONS PROVIDING FOR SEPARABILITY AND PROVIDING FOR

AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> ANY COMMISSION OR WITH ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I READ THE AGREEMENT AND UNDERSTAND. IT'S A GOOD THING.

IS THERE A MOTION? >> MOVE APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >> A MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> TRANSECTS TRANSECTS WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

[14. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>> THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. SHE WILL GIVE YOU A 102ND WARNING. ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC?

>> GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM MAYOR. COMMISSIONER SPIRIT I AM MICHAE KESSLER, I'VE BEEN AN ATTORNEY PRACTICING LAW IN THIS COMMUNIT SINCE THE SPRING OF 1985. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU AR OUR HEARING AND THE PUBLIC'S HEARING WHAT A GREAT JOB YOUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS DOING UNDER THE NEW LEADERSHIP.

CAMILLE HAS PUT TOGETHER A TERRIFIC TEAM, SHERRY IN LINDSA ARE DOING A BANG UP JOB WE HEAR THINGS AT THE COURTHOUSE, WE HEAR WHO GOES TO TRIAL, WE HEAR WHO WINS AND WHO DOESN'T, THEY ARE WINNING TRIAL AFTER TRIAL AFTER TRIAL.

ESPECIALLY I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH LINDSAY AND SHERR RECENTLY TOOK OVER THE WILDLY PUBLICIZED MICHELOB BATTER, FOR 50 TO FRENCH BULLDOGS THAT HAD BEEN SEIZED FROM THE PROPERTY I WE'RE BEING HELD PENDING THIS TRIAL AT GREAT COST TO THE CITY.

LINDSAY AND SHERRY TOOK THE CAS TO TRIAL, THEY HAD A RESOUNDING WIN AND BECAUSE OF THEIR WIN, THESE DOGS CAN NOW BE ADOPTED OUT SAVING THIS COMUNITY A FORTUNE.

I HAVEN'T SEEN A BUDGET ITEM ON THIS, BUT I'VE HEARD THAT THE COST OF KEEPING THIS ANIMALS MA HAVE EXCEEDED $300,000.

YOUR CITY ATTORNEYS ARE DOING A WONDERFUL JOB IN THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO HEAR ABOUT IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? PLEASE COME FORWARD.

I SEE MR. LYMAN. THESE COME FORWARD.

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>> 417 SOUTH UNION RIVER DRIVE. I AM HERE TO LET THE COMMISSION AND THE MAYOR KNOW ABOUT THE EXTREME PUBLIC HEALTH THREAT THAT IS OCCURRING IN OUR CITY BECAUSE OF THE ACTIONS OF WASTE MANAGEMENT AND FLORIDA EAST COAST RAILROAD.

BESIDES THE PUBLIC HEALTH THREATS, WE ALSO HAVE PROBABILITY OF WASTE AND TOXINS THAT ARE LEECHING FROM THE TRANSFER SITE DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE INTO THE DRAINS THAT GO DIRECTLY INTO THE ENGINE RIVER SO YOU HAVE A SERIES OF IMAGES AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE FIRST O ALL THAT WASTE MANAGEMENT IS VIOLATING STATE TRANSPORTATION REGULATIONS BECAUSE ON THE WAY BACK FROM OKEECHOBEE, THOSE TRUCKS ARE UNCOVERED.

THEY STILL HAVE RESIDUAL WASTE COMBAT END DATE WEEK.

WE HAVE VIDEOS OF THEM LEAKING WHEN IT RAINS OF COURSE, SO THE ARE NOT SEALED PROPERLY. AND WE HAVE VIOLATIONS OF FLORIDA REGULATIONS AND TRANSPORT THROUGH THE COUNTY AN THE CITY. THE PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE IS THAT THIS IS ATTRACTING MASSIVE NUMBERS OF FLIES AND RODENTS TO THIS RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT IS ADJOINING THIS PROPERTY.

YOU SEE PICTURES THERE OF THE OPEN CONTAINERS AFTER THEY ARE LOADED BACK ONTO THE TRAIN GOIN BACK TO MIAMI AND YOU SEE A BROKEN COVER NOT QUITE FIXED WITH DUCT TAPE.

AND THEN USE THE UNLOADING OF THE CONTAINER IN YOU CAN SEE TH DRAIN RIGHT BELOW DOWN THIRD GRADE AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT THE NEXT PICTURE, YOU ARE GOING TO SEE DRAINS DIRECTLY TO THE INDIAN RIVER. SO WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SEVERE PROBLEMS HERE. FLIES CARRY ABOUT 130 DISEASES, THE BIG THING I AM WORRIED ABOU IS THE RODENTS.

THEY LIVE AND CARRY [INDISCERNIBLE] WHICH MEANS A,.

TO OTHER ANIMALS AND PEOPLE. WE HAVE THE RODENT POPULATION HAS EXPLODED ON THE FOLLOWING PICTURES YOU CAN SEE THE FLIES FROM ONE OF THE RESIDENCES ADJOINING THAT AREA IN YOU CAN SEE ONE NIGHT INSIDE THEIR HOUSE , 91.

THIS NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, COMMISSIONER BRODRICK IS GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMISSION IN I WOULD SAY THAT ARE RESIDENTS BACK THAT RECOMMENDATION UP.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? PLEASE COME FORWARD.

[15. COMMENTS FROM THE CITY MANAGER]

OKAY, WE WILL MOVE ON. >> WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE

CITY MANAGER. >> I HAVE TWO ITEMS I WANTED TO MENTION. THERE IS A PUBLIC WORKS CHILDCARE AT THE RIVERWALK IT STARTS AT 3:30 P.M. AND GOES UNTIL 6:30 P.M. THAT IS A BIG EVENT FOR US FOR ITS BEING WELL-RECEIVED ON SOCIAL MEDIA AS WELL.

>> IT'S BEEN WELL ADVERTISED RATE ALSO IF I COULD TAKE A COUPLE OF MINUTES I WANTED MR. SORENSEN TO COME UP AND GIVE AN UPDATE ON THIS CITY ATTORNEY SEARCH.

>> ESTHER MACK SORENSEN? >> DIRECTOR OF HR AND RISK MANAGEMENT. I SUPPOSE WITH WHEN THEY ARE LIKE THIS MORNING AND THIS AFTERNOON EXTENSIVELY AND SHE INFORMED ME THAT SHE IS ASKING FOR A 30 DAY EXTENSION FOR THE RECRUITMENT AND OUTREACH PERIOD FOR THE REASON SHE IS ASKING FO THAT AS SHE WANTS TO WIDEN THE POOL OF CANDIDATES.

TO THIS DATE SHE HAS FOUR CANDIDATES THAT ARE QUALIFIED FOR THE POSITION THAT SHE WOULD PRESENT, BUT SHE WANTS TO WIDEN THE POOL OF CANDIDATES. I'M NOT HERE TONIGHT TWO EXPERT DECISION BUT WHAT I WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOU PREACH SHE PROVIDED AN UPDATED TIMELINE THAT WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS BRING THAT BACK ON THE NOVEMBER 2ND COMMISSION MEETING AND PRESENT IT TO YOU FOR YOUR REVIEW AND APPROVAL, BUT I'M HERE TO JUST PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION THAT SHE IS REQUESTING A 30 DAY EXTENSION. I THINK IT'S REASONABLE, BUT

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>> WIDEN IT GEOGRAPHICALLY, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?

>> NO, SHE WANTS TO WIDEN THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WITHIN THE TIMEFRAME TO APPLY FOR THE POSITION BECAUSE SHE ONLY HAS FOUR CANDIDATES THAT SHE WOULD BE WILLING TO PRESENT AT THIS

POINT. >> SO THE 30 DAY EXTENSION IS T GET MORE CANDIDATES. INTRODUCE A MATE MORE DRUM

BEATING PERHAPS. >> THERE SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE SHE WOULD LIKE ADDITIONAL TIME TO REACH OUT AND TRY TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT APPLYING FOR THE POSITION.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? OKAY, WE WILL TAKE THAT UNDER ADVISEMENT IN WE APPRECIATE GETTING THE INFORMATION.

>> AT THE MAYOR? TWO KEVIN THINK IT NEEDS TO COM BACK TO THEM FOR VOTES, IT WASN'T APPROVED BY THEM SO AS LONG AS NOBODY HAS ANY OBJECTION , A AND THINK YOU'RE

GOOD TO GO. >> WE NEED MORE CANDIDATES.

>> OKAY. >> I WILL FORWARD THAT, THANK

YOU. >> THANK YOU.

>> ARE WE READY TO MOVE ON? >> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?

>> I DO NOT. >> I DO.

>> GOOD. SHARED.

>> OKAY. THIS IS RELATED TO THE CAUSEWAY PROJECT. I HAVE A FEW REMARKS.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT THAT.

AT THE SEPTEMBER 14TH OF 2026 CITY COMMISSION MEETING THE BOARD VOTED FOR TO SEND THE PLANNING DIRECTOR'S MEMO ON THE TO OUTSIDE COUNCIL FOR A REVIEW TO GET AN ESTIMATE FOR HOW MUCH THAT REVIEW WOULD COST AND BRIN THAT NUMBER BACK TO THIS BODY FOR APPROVAL BEFORE PROCEEDING. THIS OFFICE AND THE NOTICE OF DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL TO THREE LAW FIRMS, BUT RECEIVED A RESPONSE FROM ONLY ONE WHICH WA OUTSIDE COUNCIL GREAT ROBINSON.

HE ADVISED THAT AN OPINION LETTER OF VALUE WAITING THE LEGALITY OF A PROJECT THE CITY HAS ALREADY APPROVED WILL NOT B IN THE CITY'S BEST INTEREST AND SPECIFICALLY WAS OF THE OPINION THAT SEVERAL OF THE DETERMINATIONS UNDERLINES THE APPROVAL TURNING ON THE PLANNIN ANALYSIS AND PROFESSIONAL LAND-USE JUDGMENTS, WHICH SHOUL BE CONDUCTED BY A CERTIFIED PLANNER AND NOT A LAWYER. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT UPDATE THAT THE APPLICANT FOR THE PROJECT DID REQUEST THAT TH DEVELOPMENT TIMELINE BE TOLD OR EXTENDED WITH FLORIDA STATUTE WHICH IS LEGALLY PERMISSIBLE AS THE REQUEST FALLS UNDER ONE OF THE FOUR CATEGORIES OF PERMITS AND AUTHORIZATIONS ILLEGIBLE FO TOLLING OR EXTENSION IN THE STATE OF EMERGENCY HAS BEEN DECLARED FOR A NATURAL EMERGENCY .

AND THIS CASE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST WAS BASED ON THE GOVERNORS EMERGENCY DECLARATION FOR HURRICANE MILTON IN THE WINTER WEATHER THAT WAS DECLARE IN FEBRUARY OF 2026.

AS A RESULT OF THAT STATUTE AND CONDITION NUMBER TWO, OF THE NOTICE OF DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED A TIMELINE WHICH HAS NOW BEEN EXTENDED FOR PHASE ONE THE FOURTH QUARTER OF 2030 AND FOUR YEARS THEREAFTER FOR EACH SUCCESSIVE PHASE WITH THE FINAL PHASE TOLD OR EXTENDED UNTIL FIRST QUARTER OF 2039.

THOSE ARE MY REMARKS. >> SO THE DEVELOPER ASKED FOR A EXTENSION OF TIME BECAUSE OF TH EMERGENCY DECLARATION.

>> HURRICANE MILTON IN THE WINTER WEATHER.

THAT WAS EARLIER THIS YEAR IN FEBRUARY.

I GUESS OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN DO THAT AFTER THE FACT, YOU DON'T

HAVE TO DO THAT. >> THE EXECUTIVE ORDER, THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE HAS CONTINUALLY UPDATED OR EXTENDED THE EXECUTIVE ORDER, SO IT'S STILL AN EXECUTIVE ORDER IN PLACE, SO THAT IS THE BASIS FOR THE EXTENSION.

>> INTERESTING. >> IT IS.

ANYBODY ELSE? >> MADAME ATTORNEY, AND I DON'T EXCITE YOU TO KNOW THE ANSWER T THIS, I'M GOING TO ASK ANYWAY.

IF THEY GET THIS EXTENSION FOR FOUR YEARS, AND THE STATE LEGISLATURE COMES BACK AND GAIN THEIR SENSES AND MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS OR CHANGES SOME LANGUAGE IN THE CURRENT LANGUAG OF LIVE LOCAL, THAT WOULD HELP THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, WITH THE FOUR-YEAR EXTENSION BE UNDE THE CURRENT LANGUAGE IN LIVE LOCAL OR WOULD IT FALL UNDER A NEW SET OF LANGUAGE THAT THE LEGISLATURE COULD IN GOOD CONSCIOUS, THAT THIS COMMUNITY

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UNDER A NEW SET OF LANGUAGE? >> AS I UNDERSTAND AND READ THE LAND-USE LANGUAGE, THE LAW THAT IS IN PLACE AT THE TIME OF THE AGREEMENT IS THE LAW THAT IS IN ESSENCE WHAT THE PROJECT WILL

HAVE TO BE SUBJECTED TWO. >> IT'S GOOD TO HOPE FOR A

MINUTE. >> OTHER QUESTIONS? THE FIRST PART OF THAT WAS THAT GRAY ROBINSON SAID, SHOULDN'T B A LAWYER, SHOULD BE SLAMMED PLANNER.

>> YES, MA'AM, A CERTIFIED PLANNER WHICH WE HAVE ONE.

THAT IS OUR DIRECTOR. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU, MS. WALLACE FOR FOLLOWING UP ON THAT.

THANK YOU. OKAY, WE WILL MOVE ON.

[16. COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION]

>> WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION.

>> WOULD LIKE TO START? >> ALTHOUGH FIRST.

>> OKAY. I GUESS THIS IS MEETING THREE THIS WEEK FOR AMENDMENT THREE? SO THAT THE MEETING I WILL BE HOSTING FOR THE SAFETY DISCUSSION ON AMENDMENT THREE I THIS WEDNESDAY, THE 21ST AT 6:0 CHURCH OF GOD.

I WILL BE THERE TO LISTEN TO TH PRESENTATION AND HOPEFULLY CAN ANSWER ANY IN ALL QUESTIONS AS ANYBODY WHO HASN'T BEEN TO ONE OR WHO HASN'T HAD ENOUGH OF LISTENING TO ALL OF THE RHETORI ON AMENDMENT THREE TO COME OUT AND GET SOME MORE ANSWERS OR AS SOME QUESTIONS, SO WE CAN TRY T ANSWER THE QUESTIONS TO THE BES OF OUR ABILITY. THAT IS THE FIRST THING.

THE SECOND THING IS SOMETHING HAS BEEN BOTHERING ME IN I WANT TO SAY IT AND I'LL SAY IT TONIGHT.

OUR STAFF IN THE LAST MAYBE TWO YEARS HAVE GONE THROUGH A LOT.

SOME WERE INVOLVED IN THE TRIAL THAT JUST ENDED LAST WEEK WITH OUR FORMER CITY MANAGER SOME HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH NEW MANAGEMENT, NEW POSITIONS CHANGING, NEW RULES BEING IMPLEMENTED, A NEW WAY OF I GUESS LIFE AT CITY HALL THAT HA GONE ON TO TRY TO MAKE LIFE AT CITY HALL THE BEST IT CAN AND I JUST WANT TO STOP AND TELL THEM THANK YOU FOR NOT ABANDONING US I KNOW SOMETIMES MORALE CAN BE LOW WHEN CHANGE HAPPENS AND EVERYBODY IS GOING THROUGH SOMETHING SO I'D LIKE TO TAKE THE TIME TO TELL THE STAFF THAN YOU, THANK YOU FOR HANGING IN THERE WITH US. UNDERSTAND THAT WE DO HAVE YOUR BACKS AND I ASKED FOR FIVE OF U APPEAR, I'M NOT ASKING ANYBODY TO GO HAVE INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS, BUT SOMETIMES, IF YOU SEE A STAFF MEMBER, STOP AND SAY HEY, HOW IS YOUR DAY I'M NOT SAYING YOU DON'T DO THAT, BUT YOU NEVE KNOW HOW IT MIGHT CHANGE THAT STAFFS LIFE, FOR ME AND FOR ME, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'VE GONE THROUGH. I KNOW WHAT YOU'VE DEALT WITH AND I APPRECIATE YOU NOT LOOKIN FOR ANOTHER JOB AND LEAVING US WHEN WEAVER GOING THROUGH THIS STRUGGLE.

JUST CONTINUE TO KEEP HOPE AND WE ARE GOING TO TURN THIS CITY AROUND YOU JUST HEARD SOMEBODY, AN ATTORNEY FROM THE COMMUNITY COME AND SAY SOMETHING POSITIVE ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING ON NOW WITH THE INTERIM CITY ATTORNEY, SO JUST STAY WITH US, CONTINUE TO FIGHT AND IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM, OR YOU ARE FEELING DOWN OR FEELING OVERWHELMED, GO KNOCK ON JARED' DOOR, FOR REAL, GO KNOCK ON HIS DOOR AND LET HIM PUT YOU WITH THE PEOPLE THAT YOU NEED TO TAL TO.

ITS PART OF YOUR BENEFITS. IT'S THERE.

WE HAVE IT, SO DON'T SIT AND BE BURN OUT, DON'T SIT AND THANK YOU DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO TURN TO, YOU DO.

WITH THAT, MADAME MAYOR, THAT I MY COMMENTS.

>> THANK YOU. WOULD LIKE TO GO NEXT?

>> THANK YOU FOR THOSE WORDS, THAT MEANT A LOT AND THANK YOU FOR SAYING SO. I HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING I HAV

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APPROXIMATELY 25-30 PERCENT OF THOSE DOLLARS COME FROM VISITOR IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO ENJOY THE ROADS, THE TOURIST OPPORTUNITIE THAT ARE HERE, VISITING FAMILY, ET CETERA.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO LET THE RESIDENTS KNOW THAT THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT INPUT IN HELPING US HERE AT HOME WITH THAT HALF CENT SALES TAX SO AGAIN, I CAN' SAY HOW TO VOTE ON THAT, BUT TODAY VOTING OPEN TODAY, EARLY VOTING AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU HAVE YOUR SA SO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, THE SAME THING WITH AMENDMENT THREE. THERE ARE DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW WITH AMENDMENT THREE, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR BALLOT. YOU'VE GOT A FRONT AND BACK SID OF THE BALLOT, IT IS SIGNIFICAN IN THERE ARE MULTIPLE AMENDMENT ON THE BALLOT WHICH IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE SO I WOULD NOT ONL READ THE LANGUAGE, I WOULD DO A MUCH RESEARCH AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE TRYING TO READ THAT BALLOT LANGUAGE WHEN YOU WALK INTO THAT BOOTH IT'S GOING TO B CONFUSING FOR YOU.

JUST TAKE A MOMENT, TAKE AN HONEST MOMENT TO YOURSELF, LEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT, BOT SIDES, THREE SIDES, FIVE SIDES, BUT SERIOUSLY, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, THIS IS AN INCREDIBL IMPORTANT OFF YEAR ELECTION MIDTERM ELECTION AND YOUR HELP IN HELPING US MAKE SURE THE CIT CONTINUES TO RUN AND CONTINUES TO GET BETTER IS IN ALL OF OUR HANDS AND I JUST WANT TO SAY PLEASE VOTE HOWEVER YOU'RE GOIN TO VOTE, BE EDUCATED TO THE PROCESS AND UNDERSTAND THE OUTCOMES OF WHICHEVER WAY YOU S CHOOSE. THANK YOU.

>> WHO WOULD LIKE TO COAT NEXT? >> I WANT TO THANK THOSE WHO CAME OUT TO THE TOWN HALL I HEL AT THE GYM THIRD WE HAD ABOUT 8- 10 PEOPLE THERE HAD A VERY LIVELY DISCUSSION A LOT OF GREA QUESTIONS AND A LOT OF GOOD LUC WITH THAT, COMMISSIONER GAINES AND I LOOK FORWARD TO PUTTING I OUT ON THE SUPPORT SOCIAL MEDIA TO SUPPORT, EARLY VOTING HAS STARTED AND AS I STATED I AM HAPPY TO ACCEPT THE FATE, JUST GO AND VOTE.

I WANT A LARGE TURNOUT. I ALSO WANT TO THINK PUBLICLY THE STAFF, PARTICULARLY OUR MEDIA TEAM FOR COVERING THE PROCLAMATION MR. EARL LITTLE HI 100TH BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION IT WAS QUITE THE CELEBRATION AND A CHANCE TO SIT WITH THEM IN MR. GAINES FIT REFLECTED ON SOME OF THEIR EARLIER CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES, WE ARE GOING TO WORK ON THAT PROJECT AND HOPEFULLY HAVE IT READY BY BLAC HISTORY MONTH.

IT IS QUITE COMICAL BETWEEN THOSE TWO.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU STAFF. >> FOR THE RECORD, HE IS TALKIN

ABOUT MY DAD. >> YES.

MR. SAM GAINES. >> MR. BRODERICK VERY PICKY I A

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LYMAN WAS PRESENT GREATLY DISCUSS THE ISSUES HERE, THE ABILITY TO READ LOCATE THEIR FACILITY TO THEIR LAND OUT WEST WHICH IS NOT GOING WELL, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY THIS SITE HERE IN FORT PIERCE WAS THE CONCERN AND WE VOICE THE SAME CONCERNS WHEAT WASTE YEAR AGO AT A SIMILAR TYPE OF MEETING, BUT THIS TIME WE HAVE MORE A MOTION IS THE BEST WAY TO PUT IT.

THEY ARE DEFENDING THEIR POSITION, WE SEE THEIR POSITION IS UNTENABLE AND WE HAVE COMPILED THEY ARE ALL WORKING COOPERATIVELY TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.

THIS IS WHAT THAT TARP WITH. THAT'S WHAT THEY CALLED THE SEALED CONTAINERS. I TRY TO EMPLOY THEM THAT THE INVESTMENT IN THIS CARS WILL ELIMINATE THE PROBLEM IN THE ENTIRETY. THEY INTENDED TO AGREE THAT THA WAS A GREAT SOLUTION AS HAS BRIAN MESSED, HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO DANA IS OF YET. I GAVE THEM 30 DAYS IN WHICH TO GIVE US AN ANSWER. IF THE ANSWER IS NO, WE HAVE A SECONDARY APPROACH, AS WE LIKE TO DO SOIL SAMPLES ON OUR SIDE OF THE PROPERTY LINE RIGHT ALON THE PERIMETER TO DETERMINE IF THERE'S ANY TOXINS THERE. WE'D ALSO LIKE TO TAKE STORMWATER RUNOFF SAMPLES. WE'RE GOING TO GET WITH MIKE FROM ENGINEERING TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.

I WOULD LIKE THE COMMISSION TO THINK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I THIN IF THE SITE IS FOUND TO BE DIRTY , I TOLD HIM IT'S MY INTENTION TO CALL AND DEP, AND THAT SENT KIND OF A VIBRATION THROUGH THE ROOM. IF THEY DIDN'T WANT THAT.

I SAID THEN YOU DO SAMPLES ON YOUR OWN SITE.

NO, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO THA WHICH LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME STUFF FOUND THEIR PART ONCE WE CALL IN DEP IN THE EPA, THEY WILL SHUT THIS DOWN INSTANTLY.

IT'S REALLY QUITE REMARKABLE. >> THE SAME THING DONE THAT WE NEED THAT THE APPROPRIATE TIME IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PLAY

BALL WITH US. >> THANK YOU, I KNOW YOU'VE BEE FIGHTING THIS, AND WE ALL FIGHT THIS, FROM BASICALLY YOUR MEETINGS, THEY SAY IT'S WHO WE ARE, TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT.

I'LL BE NICE. WHY DON'T WE JUST CALL? THE AGENCIES WE NEED TO CALL, COMMON SENSE FROM THESE ALONE, SAYS THE RUNOFF, ALL THIS RAIN WE'VE HAD, THAT RUNOFF IS TRAINING CHARLIE KUNIN ARE REVERSED, SO WHY CAN'T WE JUST CALL THEM IN IF THERE IS SOME TYPE OF STEP THAT WE NEED TO DO BEFORE, LIKE THE ENGINEER TO DO BEFORE WE CALLED THEM IN OR WHY CAN'T SOMEBODY LIKE OUR CONGRESSMAN CONGRESSMEN CALL THEM IN AND SAY I WANT TESTING THERE BECAUSE I WANT THE RESIDENTS SAFE. THAT'S WHERE I'M MISSING.

>> ABSOLUTELY. WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET THEM TO DO IS FIX THE CONTAINER ISSUE. THEY NEED TO BUY 200 OF THESE THINGS. I SAID LOOK, IT'S A HIT SHARE QUARTERLY PROFITS FOR ONE QUARTER PAGE OR MAKING A TON OF

MANAGEMENT. >> I HEAR YOU AND WEEPING TRYIN TO GET THEM TO FIX THE CONTAINERS FOR OVER A YEAR, SO IF YOU WANT TO WAIT FOR THE 30 DAYS TO SEE IF THEY ARE GOING T I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT BECAUSE ME PERSONALLY, INSTEAD OF WAITING, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO JUST CALL IN THE STATE OR WHOEVER THE INSPECTION AGENCY I IN.

COLUMN AND GET THE BALL ROLLING BECAUSE EVERY DAY WE WAIT EVEN IN THE 30 DAYS AS THE DOCTOR SAID, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR FLIES, MORE RODENTS, TAKE A 30 DAYS ON THE CONTAINER ISSUE NOT

ON THE TESTING ISSUE. >> ALL WE NEED IS A BEER BU GUY DON'T OWN SOME OF THE PARASITE OR NOT THE PARASITES, IT WAS A

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COLLEEN INSPECTIONS NOW IN THEN LET OUR HIRES TO BECOME A DANA AND SENATOR GAIL AND BRIAN COME IN AND GO FROM THERE, WE CAN COMPLAIN AND JUMP UP AND DOWN ALL WE WANT TO, IT'S GOING HAVE

TO COME FROM PARIS. >> F DONE THAT.

AGGRESSIVELY. AGGRESSIVE EVEN FOR ME.

>> I WILL SIT BACK AND LET SOMEBODY ELSE.

>> LOOK AT THE EAST SIDE OF THE TRACKS HERE, AND THAT MAY HAVE STORM DRAINS ON THE OTHER SIDE. WE CAN GET PLENTY OF SAMPLES.

MIKE WOULD HAVE TO GIVE MORE INFORMATION AS TO WHAT WE NEED AND WHAT THE COST FACTOR WOULD BE, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR SUPPORT ON BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO COST A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY. THAT PART RIGHT THERE, I'M WITH COMMISSIONER GAINES, I SAY RECALL THE ALPHABETS IN AND LET THEM START AND IN THE MEANTIME WE CAN GET SOME ESTIMATES, I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO GIVE ESTIMATES, BUT I'M ALL FOR CALLING THE ALPHABETS IN AND LETTING THEM START THAT PROCESS.

TO KEEP THEIR GOING TO WANT TO SEE SOME KIND OF EVIDENCE THAT THERE IS A TOXIN PROBLEM AND MY OPINION.

>> IT WON'T HURT TO CALL THEM. START WITH THIS STUFFY AND WHAT THE DOCTOR HAS PRESENTED THAT SHOULD PIQUE CURIOSITY AND I'M SURE A GREAT TIME THE ARTICLE I OUR NEWSPAPERS AND WILL HELP WITH THAT, AND NOW THAT IT'S ELECTION SEASON I SEE CERTAIN COMMERCIALS WHERE OUR CONGRESSMAN IS TALKING ABOUT HI PROTECTION OF THE LAGOON. LET'S HAVE HIM TALK TO THE EPA AND HAVE THEM COME HERE AND HEL US PROTECT THE LAGOON.

>> THE I DON'T SEE ANY DOWNSIDE IN INVESTIGATING THE TESTING RIGHT AWAY. IS NOT LIKE THE CITY HASN'T TRIED IN A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM. THAT NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN TALKIN ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS, FOR A YEAR , OVER ER, AND WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET ATTENTION FROM WASTE MANAGEMNT IN THE RAILROAD AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WE HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING SO I AM

PORTRAYING THIS. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY WE HAVE THE WHO DOES TESTING AND THE LAGOON QUITE FREQUENTLY AND THE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHERE THE OUTFALL OF THESE STORM DRAINS ARE IF THEY GO DIRECTLY TO THE LAKE AND, WE CAN ACTUALLY TAKE LOOK AT THOSE OUTFALLS AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE HARBOR BRANCH THAT IS A HEAVY SCIENCE -BASED OPERATION.

WE HAD HIM DO A STUDY AT THE NORTH FORK OF THE 10-MILE CREEK AND EVERYTHING WAS COMING DOWN THE CREEK IN WE LEARNED THAT IT WASN'T FROM LAKE OKEECHOBEE, BU WE KNEW THAT FROM A GEOGRAPHIC OPPORTUNITY WE FOUND SACRAMENTA WATER SO WE KNOW THOSE WERE FRO SEPTIC TANKS THESE STUDIES CAN BE DONE TO SEE WHO IT'S COMING FROM WHERE. I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT YOU BROUGHT FORWARD AND I THINK THA THE SCIENCE -BASED OPPORTUNITIE WITH THE FLORIDA DPP IN THE EPA ARE REALLY GOING TO BE GOOD ASSETS TO HELP US FIND AT LEAST A POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITY.

>> WE NEED TO GET IT ROLLING IMMEDIATELY.

>> I THINK THE FACT THAT DR. LIVE INSIDE IT IS COMING BACK FROM OKEECHOBEE, THIS STUF IS LOOSE.

IT'S JUST THE NEIGHBORS ON INDIAN LIPP RIVER DRIVE THAT IS

BETWEEN HERE AND OKEECHOBEE. >> YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED?

>> YES. >> AM I MAKING THE CALL?

>> I AM GOING TO FIND OUT IF DANA AND BRIAN CAN GET THEIR

AGENCIES ON BOARD NOW. >> HAS EVERYBODY GONE? SO I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK TH COMMISSIONERS ARE DOING ON

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THIS WEEK. >> TICKETS ARE SELLING OUT PERTH

. >> I PARTICIPATED I WAS A TOUR GUIDE ON SATURDAY. THE GHOST WALK AT THE ARCADE BUILDING. WE HAVE A GOOD TURNOUT IN WE HA SOME GREAT GHOST RATE JUDGE ADAMS WAS THERE.

IT WAS A GOOD GHOST TOUR. WITH THAT, UNLESS

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