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[1. CALL TO ORDER]

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>> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. THIS IS TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 18, 2020. THIS IS THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE COMMISSION.

PLEASE STAND FOR THE OPENING PRAYER BY PASTOR DOLORES WILLIAMS OF GOD'S KINGDOM STATION HOUSE OF PRAYER AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

>> GOD BLESS YOU. FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR BLESSINGS THAT YOU BESTOW UPN US TO STAY. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS BLESSING US TO BE HERE IN OUR MEETING TONIGHT. WE ASK FOR A BLESSING TO BE UPON THEM ALL AND TO GUIDE THEM BY YOUR SPIRIT TONIGHT. WE ASK YOU TO JUST ALLOW THIS MEETING TO BE CONDUCTED IN AN ORDERLY FASHION TONIGHT. WE ASK FOR YOUR WISDOM, WE ASK FOR YOUR GUIDANCE, WE ASK FOR YOUR PIECE TO BE HERE TONIGHT. WE JUST THANK YOU TONIGHT FOR ALL THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN ACCOMPLISHED IN OUR CITY AND WE CONTINUE TO STRIVE TO MAKE IT EVEN BETTER.

WE ASK YOU TO HELP OUR COMMISSIONERS TONIGHT TO ENGAGE IN MEANINGFUL DISCUSSIONS AND THIS ATMOSPHERE WILL BE SET TONIGHT, GOD, WITH PEACE AND LOVE AND JOY AND THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH EVERYTHING THAT SET BEFORE US ON THIS NIGHT.

LET THE WORDS OF OUR MOUTH AND THE MEDITATION OF OUR HEARTS BE ACCEPTABLE IN THY SIGHT.

LORD, OUR STRENGTH AND OUR REDEEMER, WE ASK ALL THESE LESSONS TONIGHT IN JESUS NAME

WE PRAY, AMEN. AMEN. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> CALLED THE ROLL, PLEASE.

[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

THE FEBRUARY 3, 2020, REGULAR MEETING. >> MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL

>> SECOND >> THERE'S A MOTION IN A SECOND.

CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

US HERE TONIGHT. THIS PAST WEEKEND, THE CITY OF FORT PEACE POSTED ART SHOW AND FESTIVAL AND ALONG WITH THE FESTIVAL THE CITY ORGANIZED AN ART CONTEST FOR THE AREA'S LOCAL FIFTH-GRADE STUDENTS TO PARTICIPATE IN AN EXHIBIT THEIR ARTWORK AT THE FESTIVAL.O JOINING US TONIGHT IS ALAINA THE FIRST PLACE WINNER FROM SAINT ANASTASIA CATHOLIC

SCHOOL. >> SO WE ARE PRESENTING THIS CERTIFICATE TO YOU FOR ENTERING THE ART CONTEST AND FOR WINNING IT. AND WHAT SCHOOL DO YOU GO TO?

>> SAINT ANASTASIA CATHOLIC SCHOOL. >> WE ARE SO HAPPY TO HAVE BEEN WITH US. CONGRATULATIONS ON WINNING. YOU HAVE YOUR METAL AROUND HER NECK, SO GREAT JOB. WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE YOUR PICTURE TAKEN WITH ME?

>> OKAY. >> GOOD ANSWER. >> DO YOU WANT ME TO GET UP THERE? CONGRATULATIONS.

>> THANK YOU.

[a. Love Pizza Month proclamation being received by Scott Van Duzer of the Van Duzer Foundation. ]

OUR SCHOOLS AND EVEN MORE FORTUNATE TO BE ABLE TO SHOWCASE THEIR TALENTS AT OUR ANNUAL HIGHWAYMEN FESTIVAL, SO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A LOVE PIZZA MONTH PROCLAMATION THAT'S BEING RECEIVED TONIGHT BY SCOTT VAN DUZER OF THE VAN DUZER. WHILE THEY CONTRIBUTE THROUGH VOLUNTEERING, FOOD DRIVES, SPECIAL EVENTS AND BLOOD DRIVES, AND WHEREAS THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF BASELEVEL PIZZA AND THE VAN DUZER FOUNDATION HAVE POSITIVELY IMPACTED THE COMMUNITY AND ITS RESIDENTS AND VISITORS, AND HAS WON MANY PHILANTHROPIC AWARDS

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FOR HIS CHARITABLE EVENTS AND WHEREAS THE VAN DUZER FOUNDATION CONTRIBUTES TO THE FT. PIERCE COMMUNITY PRIMARILY THROUGH EVENTS AT BIG APPLE PIZZA, OWNED AND OPERATED BY SCOTT END USER AND WERE ASKED BIG APPLE PIZZA IN FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA IS THE LONGEST RUNNING PIZZA ESTABLISHMENT IN THE CITY'S HISTORY HAVING OPENED IN MARCH 1983 INITIALLY IN THE ORANGE BLOSSOM ALL. AND NOW AT 2311 S. 35TH ST. AND WHEREAS PIZZA IS ONE OF THE WORLD'S MOST UNIVERSALLY LOVED FOODS WITH OVER 5 BILLION PIECES BEING SOLD EVERY YEAR WORLDWIDE, IT'S ESTIMATED THAT 93 PERCENT OF AMERICANS EAT PIZZA AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH AND UNITED STATES RESIDENTS ARE ESTIMATED TO BE APPROXIMATELY 6000 SLICES OF PIZZA OVER THE COURSE OF A LIFETIME. AND WHEREAS THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY IS TRADITIONALLY A TIME TO SHOW LOVE AND APPRECIATION TO OTHERS, NOW THEREFORE I LINDA HUDSON THE MAYOR DO PROCLAIM FEBRUARY 2020 AS LOVE PIZZA MONTH. IN FORT PIERCE AND ENCOURAGE

THE CONSUMPTION OF PIZZA AND VOLUNTEERISM. >> THANK YOU.

NO SMALL BUSINESS OWNER LOST THIS CITY MORE THAN I AND I WILL FIGHT THEM ON THAT.

I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 1983 IN FORT PIERCE, AND IT'S NOT JUST A JOB TO ME.

I ENJOY WHAT I DO, BUT TO OUR FAMILY, IT'S EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT TO HELP PEOPLE AND THEY NEEDED, AND THAT BUSINESS ALLOWS US TO DO THAT. AND TO DATE ãWILL B-12 YEARS IN APRIL, WE FELT 118 FAMILIES AND 72 PERCENT OF THEM HAVE COME FROM FORT PIERCE.

SO WE RAISED OVER 10 MILLION POUNDS OF FOOD AND SAVE OVER 21,000 LIVES WITH BLOOD DONATIONS. AND WITHOUT YOUR HELP IN THE CITY'S HELP, EVERY TIME WE ASK PEOPLE TO COME OUT, I THINK THEY DO TO HELP A FAMILY IN NEED.

WE ARE VERY HUMBLED AND WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THIS HONOR.

>> WE THANK YOU, TOO, AND I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T MENTION THAT YOU DO A LOT FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND THIS SUNDAY FROM NOON UNTIL 8:00, YOU WILL BE HONORING OUR FIRST

RESPONDERS ASKED BIG APPLE. >> THE UNFORTUNATE ACCIDENT WITH THE TROOPER, WE FELT VERY COMPELLED TO DO SOMETHING. WE HAD QUITE A BIT OF PHONE CALLS THAT WANTED TO DO SOMETHING, SO ON THE 23RD THIS SUNDAY WE ARE CLOSING THE STORE DOWN TO THE PUBLIC AND WE ARE INVITING ALL THE FIRST RESPONDERS, THE POLICE, THE TROOPERS AND OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND WITH SPONSORS, EVERYTHING IS PAID FOR. NOT JUST THEM, THEIR FAMILIES ARE INVITED. WEB ENTERTAINMENT OUTSIDE WITH THE KIDS AND EVERYBODY.

AND ONCE AGAIN, WE ARE HONORED AND PROUD TO STEP UP AND HELP WHOEVER IS IN NEED.> WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO FOR FORT PIERCE VERY MUCH, AND FOR ALL THE FAMILIES.

THANK YOU AND THANKS FOR THE PIZZA.

[a. Email from Michael Broderick, Director of Property Management, Trident Properties Management, commending Assistant City Attorney Tanya Earley for her professionalism, guidance and a job well done during a recent Historic Preservation Board meeting.]

[b. Email from Career Source Research Coast, Director of Operations Shelly Batton thanking Caleta Scott and Kaitlyn Ballard for their hard work for making the 5th Annual City of Fort Pierce Job Fair a success.]

>> THE FOLLOWING LETTERS WILL BE KEPT ON FILE IN THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM MICHAEL BRODERICK DIRECTOR OF PROPERTY MANAGEMENT TRIDENT PROPERTIES MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY TANYA EARLEY FOR PROFESSIONALISM, GUIDANCE AND A JOB WELL DONE DURING A RECENT HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING.

EMILY RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM CAREER SOURCE RESEARCH POST DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS SHELLY BATTON THINKING CALETA SCOTT AND KAITLYN BALLARD FOR THEIR HARD WORK FOMAKING THE FIFTH ANNUAL CITY OF VAN FORT PIERCE JOB VERY SUCCESS. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON

[8. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING PUBLIC HEARINGS Any person who wishes to comment on an agenda item which is not under Public Hearings on the Agenda may be heard at this time and must sign up to speak in advance. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING PUBLIC HEARINGS. >> WE HAD ONE PERSON SIGN UP.

MS. BETTY ROBBINS, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND YOU WILL BE GIVEN A WARNING LIGHT.

IT WILL BE AT THREE SECONDS. AND PLEASE SIGN IN AND ãSIGN AND ON THE SHEET THERE WITH

YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS THERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I DEFINITELY WON'T NEED

THREE MINUTES. ON JANUARY 31 ã >> CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND

ADDRESS? >> BETTY ROBINSON, AND I AM HERE ã

>> WHICH ARE ADDRESSED, PLEASE, MA'AM. >> 2011 DADE RD. IN FORT

PIERCE. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> WHAT I AM HERE FOR IS TO ASK FOR A WAIVER ON PENALTIES AND INTEREST ON A PROPERTY AT 1025 NORTH 12TH ST..

ON JANUARY 31 I BECAME THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, AND I IMMEDIATELY WENT TO THE OFFICE TO FIND OUT IF THERE WERE ANY LIENS AGAINST IT, AND I FOUND THERE WAS A LIEN FOR CLEARING

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THE PROPERTY, THE CITY HAD CLEARED THE PROPERTY BACK IN 1996 OR 1997, AND PENALTIES AND INTEREST AND WHATEVER HAVE ACCRUED TO A TOTAL OF $2834.63. THE PROPERTY IS ON THE TAX ROW IS BEING VALUED AT $3100. SO WHAT I AM ASKING FROM THE COMMISSION TODAY IS IF YOU WOULD WAIVE THOSE PENALTIES AND INTEREST SO THAT IT WOULD BE A LOT MORE REASONABLE FOR US TO

PAY. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM. I APPRECIATE IT.

[9. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

WHAT'S NEXT, WE GO TO ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.

THE MAYOR HAS ASKED THAT ITEM 12 FEET BE PULLED AND IT WILL BE BROUGHT BACK BEFORE THE

COMMISSION AT A LATER DATE. >> I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION WITH THAT CHANGE.

>> MOVED TO APPROVE >> SECOND. >> CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

[11. CONSENT AGENDA]

>> IS THERE ANY ITEM IN YOUR COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO PULL? IF NOT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A

MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA >> MOVED TO APPROVE

>> SECOND >> THERE'S A MOTION THAT A SECOND.

CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

[a. Resolution No. 20-R12 and Quasi-Judicial Hearing – A hearing to allow the owners and/or parties of interest in the property identified as 2607 Avenue D to show cause why the structure located on the premises should not be condemned and demolished.]

QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING IN RESOLUTION 20 ãR1 TO RESOLUTION DETERMINING THAT A CERTAIN BUILDING OR STRUCTURE LOCATED AT 2607 AVENUE D IN FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA, 34946 IS UNSAFE AND A NUISANCE THAT CONSTITUTES A MENACE TO THE BUSINESS, HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE COMMUNITY.ND SAID BUILDING OR STRUCTURE SHALL BE CONDEMNED OR DEMOLISHED DECLARING THE PARTIES OF THE INTEREST WERE PROVIDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD AND ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE BUILDING OR STRUCTURE AND ORDERING THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE TO PROCEED WITH SUCH REMOVAL AND PLACE A LIEN UPON THE PROPERTY IDENTIFIED IF COMPLETED BY THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE. PROVIDING FOR APPEAL PROVIDING

FOR NOTICE TO ALL PARTIES AND PROVIDED FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> MR. SWEENEY?

>> THANK YOU, MADAME MAYOR. THE CITY COMMISSION SERVES THE LEGISLATIVE AND QUASIJUDICIAL ROLE. WHEN ACTING AS A LEGISLATIVE BODY THE COMMISSION ENGAGED THE LAWMAKING ACTIVITY BY PASSING LAWS AND ESTABLISHING POLICIES. WHEN ACTING AS A QUASIJUDICIAL BODY THE COMMISSION APPLIES AS LAWS AND POLICIES AND IS HELD TO STRICTER PROCEDURAL REQUIREMENTS.UASIJUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS ARE LESS FORMAL IN THE PROCEEDINGS BEFORE A CIRCUIT COURT BUT ARE MORE FORMAL THAN THE NORMAL COMMISSION MEETING.

QUASIJUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS MUST FOLLOW BASIC STANDARDS OF NOTICE AND DUE PROCESS AND COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. COMMISSIONERS HAVE A DUTY TO CONDUCT THE QUASIJUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS LIKE JUDGES AND LIKE LEGISLATORS.

THAT'S WHY THE COMMISSION HAS ESTABLISHED FORMAL PROCEDURES FOR QUASIJUDICIAL HEARINGS THAT

WILL BE FOLLOWED THIS EVENING. >> THANK YOU. SO THESE PROCEEDINGS ARE NOW CALLED TO ORDER. WITH THE CITY CLERK PLEASE CONFIRM COMPLIANCE WITH THE

ADVERTISING AND NOTICE REQUIREMENTS. >> THE ADVERTISING AND NOTICE

REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS ITEM HAVE BEEN MET. >> AT THIS TIME, ANY EXPERT TO COMMUNICATIONS SHOULD BE DISCLOSED BY EACH MEMBER OF THE CITY COMMISSION.

>> MR. ALEXANDER? COMMISSIONER JOHNSON? COMMISSIONER PRODUCT?

COMMISSIONER SESSIONS? >> WE WILL PROCEED WITH THE HEARING.

WITH THE CITY CLERK PLEASE SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES? >> WILL ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. CITY STAFF WILL NOT MAKE THE PRESENTATION.

>> GOOD EVENING, MADAME MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. WE ARE HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS THE CONDEMNATION AND REQUEST FOR DEMOLITION OF 2607 AVENUE D.

>> DO I NEED TO COME UP AND BE SUPPORTED?

>> WHENEVER WE CALANNI WE WILL SWEAR YOU AND, OKAY? THANK

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>> THERE'S QUITE A LENGTHY HISTORY WITH THIS PROPERTY. IT WAS ORIGINALLY LY CONDEMNED BY MR. MYERS THE BUILDING OFFICIAL BACK IN K IN 2016 ON JUNE 10 2016 WE RECEIVED THE FIRST OF MULTIPLE REQUESTS FOR EXTENSION, AND IT WAS GRANTED. MULTIPLE EXTENSIONS WERE GRANTED BY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. BUT THEN DUE TO NO ACTION, THE PROPERTY WAS RECITED ON OCTOBER 30, 2018, AND THAT WAS DONE ONCE CONDEMNATIONS WERE TRANSFERRED TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT. THE OWNER REACHED OUT TO STAFF.

I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE OWNER SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF EARS.

SHE HAD STATED THE PROPERTY WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE FAMILY AND THAT THEY WANTED TO REHABILITATE THE STRUCTURE. BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT I WAS PROVIDED, I DID TRY TO GET MULTIPLE EXTENSIONS ALLOWING HER TO TRY TO GET FINANCING FOR THE REHAB AND TRY AND MAKE SOME DECISIONS. ON MAY 8, 2019, A APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED BUT IT WAS REJECTED BECAUSE IT DIDN'T COVER THE FULL SCOPE OF WORK THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE.

ON OCTOBER 22, 2019, I GRANTED ONE FINAL EXTENSION. THEY WERE GOING TO TRY TO RESUBMIT THE PLANS. BUT NURSERY SUBMITTALS HAVE BEEN DONE.

NO ACTION HAS ACTUALLY BEEN TAKEN SINCE MAY OF LAST YEAR. AND THEREFORE, STAFF WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONDEMNATION WITH DEMOLITION REQUEST. THE CURRENT STATUS ãTHE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE INSPECTION REPORT WAS COMPLETED BY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IN SEPTEMBER 2018 AND DUE TO THE ROOF COLLAPSE AND OVERALL POOR CONDITION OF THE STRUCTURE THEY DID RECOMMEND DEMOLITION OF THE STRUCTURE. THE NOTICE OF UNSAFE BUILDING WAS SENT CERTIFIED MAIL. THE OWNER DID RECEIVE IT. IT WAS SIGNED AND RETURNED.

THERE WAS ONE LIENHOLDER THAT WE NOTICED BUT IT WAS RETURNED UNCLAIMED.

IT IS A NON-HOMESTEAD PROPERTY. IT'S NOT OCCUPIED. IT'S VACANT.

THERE WAS ONE PERMIT APPLICATION SUBMITTED IN 2019, BUT IT WAS DENIED.

THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS AT THE PROPERTY.

IT'S NOT HISTORIC AND THERE ARE NO UTILITIES. I CONFIRMED TODAY THERE WAS NO BUILDING PERMITS. SO THAT NUMBER DIDN'T GET UPDATED.

I CONFIRMED THIS AFTERNOON THERE'S NO BUILDING PERMITS IN HOUSE AND WE ARE WAITING ON THE RESULTS OF A TITLE SEARCH, BUT WE DID NOTIFY THE ONE LIENHOLDER WE WERE ABLE TO FIND WITHOUT THAT. THIS IS THE CURRENT CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY.

IT IS A CONCRETE STRUCTURE. THERE'S FOUR WALLS. THERE'S NO ROOF.

THIS IS FROM THE AVENUE D SIDE. THE FIRST PHOTO WAS FROM 26TH ST. NSS AVENUE D. THIS IS AGAIN ON THE 26TH ST. SIDE AND YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE. YOU CAN SEE WHERE OVER THE BOARD, THERE'S NO ROOF. THE ROOF IS GONE. THIS IS A BRIEF OVERHEAD VIEW OF THE LOCATION, AND THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS. AND THE CITY COMMISSION CAN'T APPROVE, AMEND, OR DENY STAFF PUBLIC RECOMMENDATION FOR DEMOLITION.

IF THE COMMISSION WAS TO APPROVE THE DEMOLITION, 30 DAYS WOULD BE GIVEN FOR AN APPEAL PROCESS. IF NO APPEAL IS FILED, THEN THERE WOULD BE ANOTHER 15 DAY NOTICE PROVIDED TO THE OWNER. SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY 45 DAYS FOR THE OWNER TO TAKE CARE OF THE DEMOLITION ON THEIR OWN. AND THEN AT THAT DID NOT TAKE PLACE, AND THE CITY WOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH TAKING CARE OF THE PROPERTY AND HAVING THE BUILDING DEMOLISHED.

AND NOT STAFF'S PRESENTATION. >> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> MADAME MAYOR? WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE REPORT. ARE THERE ANY VIOLATIONS THAT ARE ONGOING, ANY OTHER CHARGES THAT ARE HAPPENING LIKE WE JUST SAW AN EXAMPLE TONIGHT IN A REQUEST FOR REDUCTION IN FINES?

IS THERE ANYTHING HAPPENING WITH THIS PROPERTY RIGHT NOW? >> NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.

I HAVE NOT DONE A LIEN SEARCH TO THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT BUT THROUGH MY DEPARTMENT THERE IS NONE THAT I'M AWARE OF. AND THEN GO BACK TO YOUR SITE WHERE YOU SHOWED THE WINDOW THE TIGHT BEAM AT THE TOP. I SAW THE REPORT TALKING ABOUT STRUCTURAL DEFICIENCY.

IS THAT WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE? ABOVE THE WINDOW. >> THE CRACK THAT'S GOING RIGHT

HERE?YES. >> AND THEN HE CAN GO BACK ANOTHER PICTURE, IS ALSO EXPOSED STEEL. MAYBE ONE MORE. ZOOM IN THE MIDDLE THERE.

RIGHT AT THE CORNER IT LOOKS LIKE SOME REBAR. IS THAT WHAT I SEE?

>> DUSTY CORNER OF THE BUILDING. THAT'S THE REBAR.

>> SO IT'S BEEN EXPOSED. YOU SAID THERE WAS A REROOF APPLICATION IN MAY 2019.

>> YES. >> THERE WERE TRUSSES ON THE STRUCTURE AT THE TIME?

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>> NO. THAT'S WHY IT WAS DENIED. >> BECAUSE YOU CAN'T REROOF

OKAY. >> PEGGY, WHEN DID YOU SAY THIS BUILDING WAS BUILT?> THE BUILDING WAS BUILT ãTHE PROPERTY APPRAISAL DOES NOT HAVE IT.

>> HOW CAN YOU SAY IT'S NOT HISTORICAL? >> I CHECKED WITH THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER AND SHE STATED IT WASN'T IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT OR A HISTORIC

BUILDING. >> WELL, I KNEW THE FAMILY THAT LIVED THERE, AND SHE WAS OLD ENOUGH TO BE MY GRANDMOTHER, AND I'M OLD ENOUGH TO BE YOUR GRANDFATHER.

SO HOW IS IT THAT THE BUILDING CANNOT BE HISTORICAL? WHAT DETERMINES ã

>> IT WOULD BE LOCATED WITHIN THE DESIGNATED HISTORIC DISTRICT AND IT'S OUTSIDE THE DISTRICT, OR IT WOULD HAVE TO BE INDEPENDENTLY DESIGNATED AS HISTORIC.

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> HISTORIC AVENUE D, IT RAN ALL THE WAY OUT.

SO WHY WOULD NOT ANY OF THE BUILDINGS THAT'S WITHIN AVENUE D ãI'M JUST ASKING

>> HANG ON. WE SHOULD HAVE RESPONDED SHE'S GOING TO ADD TESTIMONY TO THE

RECORD. >> I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT. >> RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?

>> YES. >> YOU. >> THERE ARE UNFORTUNATELY MANY HOMES THAT LIE OUTSIDE OF OUR HISTORIC DISTRICTS THAT WILL ESTABLISH A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO. THAT ARE BY THE YEAR THEY WERE BUILT, ALL OF US WOULD CONSIDER HISTORIC BUT THEY ARE NOT OFFICIALLY EITHER WITHIN A HISTORIC DISTRICT OR HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF HAVING A RESOLUTION DESIGNATED AS A HISTORICAL STRUCTURE.

WITHOUT THAT, THEY DON'T HAVE THE PROTECTION. >> WE DON'T UP AND JUST VOLUNTEER AND GIVE THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT KIND OF INFORMATION? THAT ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS ASK FOR DESIGNATION OR SOMETHING? AGAIN, THAT FAMILY HAS BEEN ON THAT CORNER THERE, I'D BE SCARED TO SAY HOW LONG. BUT ARE THEY BEING GIVEN INFORMATION THAT YOU SAY HAVE APPLIED FOR A PERMIT LAST YEAR, AND WERE THEY TOLD WHAT TO DO, BUT THEY NEED TO DO AND HOW THEY NEED TO DO IT? THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE HAVE ALL OF THESE EMPLOYEES TO WORK WITH ONE INDIVIDUAL, AND YOU KNOW, ãIF SOMEBODY WANTS TO SAVE THE BUILDING FOR WHATEVER THE REASON THEY WANT TO SAVE IT, YOU DON'T KNOW, RIGHT?

YOU DON'T KNOW THE REASONS, RIGHT >> I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE OWNER MULTIPLE TIMES. I UNDERSTAND THE FAMILY HISTORY WHICH IS WIDELY GRANTED FOUR YEARS OF EXTENSIONS. WE REALLY TRIED TO ALLOW THE OWNER THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THIS ON THEIR OWN. IT'S ONLY AFTER 40 YEARS HAVE ELAPSED WITH NO ACTION BEING

TAKEN STAFF IS MOVED TO THIS POINT. >> OKAY.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? SO I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW. IF YOU WOULD COME FORWARD, PLEASE.

IF YOU COULD SIGN IN FOR ME, PLEASE, AND THEN >> I APOLOGIZE.

>> NO. LISTEN ãYOU ARE FINE. WE ARE GOING TO WORK WITH YOU.

>> I THINK SHE WOULD LIKE TO SWEAR YOU AND FIRST >> RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL YOU TRUTH THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR US FOR THE

RECORD >> MY NAME IS NORMA BRADBURY I LIVE AT 2410 NORTH 51ST ST., FORT PIERCE, FL. MADAME MAYOR MISSIONARIES, I DO APPRECIATE THIS TIME AND THIS

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OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND TO LET YOU KNOW MUCH HAS HAPPENED. I DON'T WANT TO GO THAT FAR BACK BECAUSE CURRENTLY, MY SON HAS TAKEN OUT A LOAN. HE'S GIVEN A DEPOSIT TO THE CONTRACTOR ALREADY AND WHAT TO APPLY FOR THE PERMIT, AND IN OUR HASTE AND EXCITEMENT AND ANTICIPATION TO GET THE BUILDING DONE, WE COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT THE BLUEPRINT.

AND I HAVE ONE, HOWEVER IT WAS DESTROYED IN THE OTHER PLACE WE LIVED DURING THE STORM.

SO I DON'T HAVE THAT, BUT I DO HAVE THIS. THIS IS BLACK HISTORY MONTH.

MY FAMILY IS A WELL-KNOWN FAMILY, AND MANY MAY HAVE FORGOTTEN THIS FAMILY, BUT I KIND OF FELT LIKE AND SINCE THEY NEED TO DO THIS PRESENTATION.

IT'S JUST A FEW SLIDES BUT MY MOTHER ALWAYS TOLD ME A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS.

SO WE ARE GOING TO GO FORWARD MRS. LENA SCOTT BAILEY, THIS PROPERTY WAS OWNED BY HER, NOT JUST THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY HOUSES ACROSS THE STREET. THE HOUSES ARE THERE NOW.

SHE OWNED THAT, BUT PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHING ONE OF THE FIRST FEMALE AFRICAN HOMES AND RESIDENTIAL RENTERS IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY ON THE TREASURE COAST.

DAUGHTER, WIFE, MOTHER, GRANDMOTHER, SISTER AND MUCH MORE.

MOTHER WAS ELIZABETH BUT SHE GAVE UP THE ROSA FOR SOME REASON.

AND DECIDED TO USE ELIZABETH. THIS PICTURE HER BROTHER JULIUS CAESAR SCOTT, ARE YOU ALL FAMILIAR WITH THAT? I AM SURE YOU ARE. THAT MEMORIAL SITS RIGHT ON 13TH ST. AND AVENUE D. UNCLE JULIUS HUSBAND CHARIS AUGUSTUS BAILEY AND I PUT THIS PICTURE OF THE CHILDREN. THAT'S NOT QUITE A GOOD PICTURE, BUT THAT MY MOTHER AND ALL OF THE GOING ON BEFORE HER. SHE WAS THE LAST SIBLING, SISTERS AND BROTHER.

MY BROTHER AT THE VERY BOTTOM CENTER. AND THIS IS NOT A VERY CLEAR PICTURE BUT I TRIED TO BLOW IT UP. MY SISTER DID THAT AND WORKED WITH IT FOR THANKSGIVING AND WE WERE HAVING. BUT IT'S THERE, JUST FAMILY.

MY MOTHER ALWAYS TOLD ME FAMILY IS EVERYTHING. YOU DON'T HAVE FAMILY, YOU JUST LOSE EVERYTHING. THANK GOD THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE DOCTORS AS FAMILY.

THESE GRANDCHILDREN I GUESS GRANDCHILDREN THAT'S US.OUR SISTERS LEFT ONE OF THE GRANDCHILDREN FROM MY UNCLE'S ã ACTUALLY, TWO OF THEM HAVE GONE ON.

CLIFFORD, I DIDN'T FIND A PICTURE OF HIM, BUT HE'S THERE. THIS IS THE CLOTHES-KNIT FOUR SISTERS THIS IS CONTINUED. THE YOUNG MAN SITTING WITH THE WHITE SHIRT WITH THE BROWN STRIPE PASSED OVER A YEAR AGO FROM GLIOBLASTOMA RIGHT HERE. MY ELDEST SISTER THERE IN THE FRONT WITH THE WHITE HAIR. SHE RETURNED BACK TO ATLANTA. AND, OF COURSE, THESE ARE BRANDS AND GREAT CRAYONS AND WE ALSO LOST ANOTHER ONE, A YOUNG ONE IN THEIR FOR A HEART ISSUE.

SO THIS IS THE LADY WHO IS BUILDING THE LAST BUILDING, THE LAST PROPERTY THAT I TOLD MY MOTHER. MY STEPFATHER, VERNON LEE, HE WAS LIKE A DAD TO ME.

I MADE A PROMISE TO THEM THAT I WOULD DO EVERYTHING WITHIN MY POWER WITH THE GRACE OF GOD TO HOLD TO THIS LAND BUT WE GOT BACK AND THAT BUILDING IS WHERE THIS LADY USED TO SIT AND TALK

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TO US AND SHARE ALL OF THE WISDOM AND TELL US ALL OF THE FAMILY STORIES, COLLECT THE RENT WHICH I HELPED HER DO. GOT MY FIRST BICYCLE AND COLLECTED RENT FIXED SCREEN AND SCREEN DOORS. DO KNOW A LITTLE ABOUT CONSTRUCTION, LEARN HOW TO FRAME A HOUSE.

AND EVERYTHING. BUT THIS MOMENT, MRS. BAILEY, PASSED ON SEPTEMBER 21 AFTER A SHORT ILLNESS IN DAYTONA BEACH WHERE SHE HAS LIVED FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS WITH HER SON GODFREY. SHE WAS 95 YEARS OLD. SOME PEOPLE SAY SHE WAS OLDER.

SHE WAS A RETIRED PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHER WHO HAS TAUGHT IN ALL IN STUART AND FT. PIERCE DURING HER 40 YEARS IN THE PROFESSION. HER FIRST TEACHING ASSIGNMENT WAS AT ST. LUCIE COUNTIES NORTHWEST SCHOOL 1923. THAT SCHOOL PROVIDED INSTRUCTION FOR THE CHILDREN WHOSE PARENTS SUPPORT FOR THE BILL TURPENTINE STEEL. HER LAST TEACHING ASSIGNMENT WAS AT THIS CHESTER A MOORE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN FORT PIERCE.

SHE RETIRED IN 1962. SHE WAS LISTED IN WHO'S WHO FOR OUTSTANDING BLACK WOMEN OF AMERICA. 1976. RECEIVED AN AWARD FROM NEW YORK TIMES FOR HISTORICAL WRITING RECEIVED ATTRIBUTE OF PUBLIC SERVICE FROM MOUNT OLIVE BAPTIST CHURCH IN 1975 ORGANIZED THE FIRST CLUB IN FORT PIERCE CALLED MOTHERS CLUB OF GOLDEN GATE HOUSEHOLD NUMBER 3717. ANSWER DESK SECRETARY.

GOOD GRACIOUS. THIS IS A LOT OF READING. SERVICE SECRETARY WAS A MEMBER OF THE WOMEN'S MISSION AND THE WOMEN'S FEDERATED CLUB. SHE WAS ALSO THE COMPOSER OF MANY POEMS AND SONGS ONE SONG JIMMY DARLING WAS PUBLISHED BY ãSHE RECEIVED ORDERS FROM THE ST. LUCIE STATE TEACHERS ASSOCIATION ON HER RETIREMENT FROM THE LOCAL SCHOOL SYSTEM AND RECEIVED BIRTHDAY GREETINGS FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE U.S. ON BOTH HER 94TH AND 95TH BIRTHDAYS. SHE WAS KNOWN AS THE OLDEST WALKER IN DAYTONA BEACH BECAUSE SHE AND HER SON WALK ONE MILE EVERY DAY EXCEPT THE DAY BEFORE HER DEATH.

SHE WAS CHRISTENED LENA AGNES SCOTT AND SHE WAS BORN JULY NIGHT 1889 IN SANFORD, FLORIDA TO CARE CLARENCE LUTHER SCOTT AND ROSA ELIZABETH BURKE AT A VERY YOUNG AGE LENA AND HER MOTHER MOVED TO FORT PIERCE IN 1903 WHEN LENA WAS 14 YEARS OLD NOT ALL BAPTIST WAS FOUNDED.

SHE PARTICIPATED BY GIVING THE CHURCH TO SONG IN JUNE 1911 LENA AGNES SCOTT COMPLETED HER STUDIES AT THE FLORIDA BAPTIST INSTITUTE IN SAINT AUGUSTINE. THAT SCHOOL WAS LATER NAMED FLORIDA NORMAL AND INDUSTRIAL INSTITUTE. ON DECEMBER 23, 1911, LENA MARRIED THE LATE HARRIS AUGUSTUS BAILEY WHO HAD RECENTLY SETTLED IN JENSEN BEACH WITH HIS FATHER THE LATE JEFFERSON SAMUEL BAILEY. THEY WERE MARRIED AT METABOLIC BAPTIST CHURCH BY ITS PASTOR THE LATE REVEREND RJ TAYLOR. THEY WERE BOTH VERY ACTIVE WORKERS NOT ALL BAPTIST CHURCH FOR MANY YEARS. SHE SERVED AS ORGANIST FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS AND HARRIS SERVED AS A DEACON CHURCH AND SUNDAY SCHOOL SUPERINTENDENT AND THEY LIVED IN JENSEN BEACH FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS BEFORE SETTLING IN JENSEN BEACH WHERE THEY PURCHASED THEIR FIRST HOME IN MAY 1924: 46 NORTH 9TH ST. BY THE LATE MR. BOLINT.

A.J. BOLINT. TO THAT UNION FOUR CHILDREN WERE BORN THE LATE BAILEY MORRIS WHO WAS FIRST OF THE FOUR, SHE SERVED ALSO AS A PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHER AND ACTIVE CHURCH WORKER BEFORE THE ANGELS CAME AND TOOK HER TO HEAVEN.

THE OTHER CHILDREN ARE MRS. EMMA JEAN BAILEY LEE OF FT. PIERCE WAS ãMR. COFFEE SCOTT BAILEY SENIOR OF DAYTONA BEACH OTHER SURVIVORS INCLUDE SO FORTH AND SO FORTH.

AMEN. ALL RIGHT. ON THIS PARTICULAR PICTURE, A PROMISE MADE IS A PROMISE KEPT. BUT PROMISE THAT I MADE TO MY GRANDMOTHER, THEY PROMISE OF

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TURNER VERNON LEE MADE TO MY WIFE ãHIS WIFE IS THE PROMISE OF HOLDING ONTO THE PROPERTY AND THAT LAST STRUCTURE, WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO TO REVIVE IT.

I TOLD MY MOTHER THREE DAYS BEFORE SHE DIED BUT I WOULD DO WHAT I CAN, AND I HAVE DONE IT.

PAY TAXES, I'VE BEEN BEHIND THE SCENE WORKING. SOME PEOPLE DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, TIME IS UP IN ESSENCE AND UNDERSTAND THAT. I HAD TO END UP PURCHASING A HOME MYSELF TO LIVE IN, AND THAT PROCESS TOOK ME MORE THAN I THOUGHT.

IT TOOK ME ABOUT A YEAR, AND WE FINALLY GOT IT DONE, AND THEN LIKE I SAID, WE WERE ON A ROLL.

ET'S GET TO 2607. AND I'LL BE DARN, ENDED UP FORGETTING ABOUT THE BLUEPRINT AND MR. BENNETT IS SUPPOSED TO BE WORKING ON IT, BUT I'VE GOT TO GO A LITTLE WAY AND I HAVE TO FIND SOMEONE ELSE IF YOU CAN'T COMPLETE THE TASK OF FINISHING THE BLUEPRINT AND TIME. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT REBAR YOU SAW IN THAT STRUCTURE, MY GRANDMOTHER WAS GOING TO ADD A SECOND STORY HERE. THAT'S WHY THAT REBAR WAS THERE. SO THE PLAN WAS TO DO A SLIGHT PITCH FLATTOP AND LATER ON EVENTUALLY DO A ROBOCALL, WHICH I'VE SEEN THE BAILEY PLAN. I WASN'T ABLE TO GET IT HERE TODAY. I WAS GOING TO TRY TO ASK FOR AN EXTENSION BUT I SAID I BETTER GO TONIGHT AND JUST GET THIS DONE. AND BELIEVING THAT YOU ALL WILL BE FAIR AND LET'S TRY TO WORK THIS OUT. MY SON HAS ALREADY SPENT MONEY TO GET THE BUILDING DONE. WE JUST NEED A BLUEPRINT NOW. YOU WILL HAVE ãI ALMOST HIT THE FLOOR. I SAID IT WASN'T IN MY BUDGET. THIS IS WHAT THE INTERIOR OF THE LITTLE STRUCTURE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED.

THAT ONE BUILDING. AND THEN LATER ADDITION. SO I THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF THIS APPLICANT?

>> YOU SAY YOU CAME NOT WITH THE PURPOSE OF ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION BUT YOU WANT THE CITY TO WORK WITH YOU. COULD YOU BE MORE SPECIFIC AND TELL ME EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT

TO ACCOMPLISH? >> I NEED AN EXTENSION. I WAS TALKING ABOUT AN EXTENSION TO DO THIS POWERPOINT. I HAD MORE PHOTOGRAPHS, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO PROLONG IT. YOU KNOW, ON OCCASION, I DO SCAN THE CHANNEL, AND I KNOW YOU ALL ARE FAIR, GOD FEARING PEOPLE. I KNOW THIS.

I KNOW THIS. I'VE SEEN YOU ALL MANY PLACES, YOU KNOW, SO I KNOW THAT WE ALL ARE HERE IN THE SAME PLACE FOR ONE COMMON GOAL. I GO DOWN AVENUE D AND I'M GRATEFUL TO SEE THE BEAUTIFICATION, AND I WANT TO SEE THAT RIGHT THERE ON AVENUE D. THAT'S WHY I SAID I WAS SO EXCITED UNTIL ãI GOT OVERLY EXCITED.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. MAN, DO YOU HAVE INSURANCE ON THIS PROPERTY NOW?

>> NO, WE DON'T. COULDN'T GET ANY AT THE TIME. NOBODY WAS LIVING THERE, SO

THAT WAS ANOTHER ISSUE. >> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING EARLIER? I WAS REMINISCING BECAUSE THIS FAMILY GOES SO FAR BACK WITH MY FAMILY, AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO PROLONG ãTHAT'S ALMOST LIKE A SHRINE FOR THEM. HER GRANDPARENTS AND HER PARENTS.

AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DENY THEM FROM COMPLETING WHAT THEY WISH ãWHAT THEIR WISHES

ARE. I AM JUST ONE PERSON. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, DO YOU

HAVE ANYTHING? >> THANK YOU. YOU TALKED ABOUT THE BLUEPRINTS AND COMING UP WITH PLANS AND YOU MADE UP PLANS OR SPEND MONEY WITH CONTRACTOR

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>> THE CONTRACTOR IS READY TO GO. HE'S READY TO GO TOMORROW IF WE GET THE PLAN, GET THAT BLUEPRINT RIGHT. AND WHEN WE WENT INITIALLY WHEN HE TOLD ME WHAT THE PRICE WAS, THAT WAS NOT IN OUR INITIAL BUDGET.

SO I WENT BACK TO MR. BENNETT WHO I KNEW ãI THOUGHT HE DID HAVE A PLAN AT ONE TIME, BUT HE SAID HE DIDN'T HAVE IS.O HE WAS TRYING TO HELP US AND REDO IT BUT THEN I UNDERSTAND HE'S NOT HERE. YOU KNOW, HE IS NOT ABLE TO, I GUESS, DO WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO.

I'VE LEFT TWO MESSAGES FOR HIM, BUT I HAVE CALLED ANOTHER SOMEBODY WHO WAS RECOMMENDED, AND I UNDERSTAND HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE GOOD AND I'M HOPING HE WILL CONTACT ME TOMORROW.

MR. MURRAY'S SHADIER. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'D HEARD THAT NAME

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. THE REASON I'M ASKING IS THAT I'M HOPING THEY'RE GOING TO HELP AND GUIDE YOU WITH THE COST OF REHABBING A STRUCTURE THAT'S BEEN SITTING IN THE WEATHER. IT GETS EXPENSIVE. REMODELING IS EXPENSIVE.O YOU EXPECT IT TO BE A NUMBER AND JUST MULTIPLY IT BY 2 1/2 OR THREE TIMES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S A CHALLENGE IN THIS CASE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A STRUCTURE EXPOSED TO THE ELEMENTS AND THE REBAR AND THIS IS AT THE CORNER OF 27.

AND MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, WE TALK ABOUT AVENUE D A LOT AND WE WANT TO EMBRACE THE CHARACTER IN THE HISTORY AND WE BRING THAT FORWARD AND WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE TIME.

SO I WAS LOOKING THROUGH SOME OF THE PHOTOS THAT WERE SUPPLIED TODAY.

PART OF THE FENCING IS FALLING DOWN >> I ACTUALLY HAVE SOMEONE WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO DO AN ESTIMATE. SOMEBODY RAN INTO THE GATE AND I GOT A SUMMONS TO APPEAR IN COURT FOR THAT. MAY NOT GET ANY MONEY FOR THAT BUT WE WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT.

>> YOU MEAN THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT? >> SOME GUY WAS ELUDING THE POLICE AND JUMPED OUT AND HIT THE FENCE AND JUMPED OUT AND TOOK OFF.

REX MY OTHER QUESTION TO YOU WOULD BE WE ARE THINKING ABOUT HOW YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN FOR THE PLAN OR REHAB STRUCTURE. HAVE YOU CONSIDERED OTHER STRUCTURES LIKE PRESERVING THE WALL TO TIE IN SOMETHING NEW WE WOULD LIKE TO BUILD THERE? HERE'S WHY I ASKED. I ASK BECAUSE TODAY'S BUILDING COLD IS A LOT DIFFERENT.

AND WHEN YOU START TO REHAB YOU START TO LOOK AT ENERGY-EFFICIENT CODES, AND YOU ARE GOING TO BE BATTLING SOME OF OUR BUILDING CODE JUST TO MAKE IT SO YOU CAN LIVE THERE AND MAKE IT AFFORDABLE WITH ELECTRIC AND WATER AND SEWER, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.

THE CODE IS JUST A DIFFERENT. SO I APPRECIATE THIS PICTURE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A PLAN AND YOU ARE THINKING FORWARDLY WITH WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO. SO IT'S JUST SOME

CONSIDERATIONS. >> WE HAVE TAKEN ALL OF THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

>> I TOLD YOU BEFORE ãI HAVE WORKED WITH CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES AND I HAVE HELPED THEM BUILD FROM THE GROUND UP. I HAVE DONE SOME RESEARCH INTO WHAT TO DO TO HELP GET THE STRUCTURE PRESERVED AND ACTUALLY CLEANED THE WALLS, THE BRICK AND EVERYTHING.

>> AND DO YOU HAVE A TIME IN MIND THAT IF THIS COMMISSION WAS ABLE TO SAY, WE WILL GIVE YOU UNTIL A CERTAIN TIME, AND DO YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT COULD ABSOLUTELY EVALUATE IF IT'S

DOABLE FOR YOU AND DOABLE AT THE PRICE YOU CAN AFFORD? >> SOMEONE HAS ALREADY LOOKED AT IT AND AS I FOR STATED WE HAVE ALREADY PAID THE CONTRACTOR.

I SPOKE WITH HIM TODAY TO FIND OUT HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE HIM ONCE WE GET THE BLUEPRINTS TO GET THAT JOB DONE. AND HE TOLD ME, WELL, IT WOULD TAKE ME LONG BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE AS MUCH WORK AS HE MIGHT HAVE HAD. HE SAID WE CAN JUMP ON IT IN A

FEW DAYS OR SO. >> AND SO ãBUT EARLIER YOU APPLIED FOR A BUILDING PERMIT

AND IT WAS NOT GRANTED BECAUSE OF EFFICIENCY? >> WE DIDN'T HAVE THE BLUEPRINT

>> AND I THOUGHT I HAD A COPY BUT I DIDN'T. I COULDN'T FIND IT.

MR. BENNETT DIDN'T HAVE ONE, SO IT WOULD BE BACK TO SQUARE ONE. >> IF THE COMMISSION WAS SO

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INCLINED, HOW MUCH TIME WOULD YOU NEED? ASK IT WOULD BE FAIR.

CONSIDERING THE WEATHER AND EVERYTHING, DO YOU THINK SIX MONTHS? DO YOU THINK THAT'S TOO LONG? AND I'M SAYING THAT FOR A REASON BECAUSE OF OTHER THINGS I HAVE ENCOUNTERED IN THE PAST AND I DON'T WANT TO NOT GIVE MYSELF ENOUGH TIME AND THEN

HAVE TO COME BACK AND REQUEST ADDITIONAL TIME. >> AND I DON'T KNOW EITHER.

I JUST WANT ãI CAN TELL YOUR HEART IS IN US. AND SO SOMETIMES WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS DOABLE AND THAT YOU HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT.

IF YOU DON'T ãAT SOME POINT A HARD DECISION IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE MADE IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN

>> WE ãTO GET THIS PROJECT UP AND RUNNING. IT'S JUST THAT I WON'T BE BUILDING A REPLICA TOMORROW OR SIX MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD. THE FIRST THING WAS TO GET THIS

STRUCTURE UP TO PAR >> AND ALSO IT CAN'T DETERIORATE ANYMORE BECAUSE OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS ALREADY SAID IT'S A COMPROMISED SITUATION.

THANK YOU, VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE?

THIS WOULD BE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT ARE NOT SWORN IN. >> WE STILL HAVE TO SWEAR THEM AND PICK RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND

NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? >> I DO. >> SIGN IN FOR US, PLEASE.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. >> 2625 S. U.S. 1. THE ISSUE THAT I SEE WITH THIS IS THAT IS SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT. TO THE BEST OF MY MEMORY, I DIDN'T GO BACK AND LOOK. ABOUT A YEAR AGO, IN THE LAST YEAR, YOU HAD ANOTHER PROPERTY AT 13TH AND I THAT WAS IN THE SAME CONDITION AND YOU GRANTED A CONDITIONAL USE AND ALLOWED THEM ãTHEY NEEDED A FAIR ANSWER OF CONDITIONAL USE TO LEASE OUT ãI BELIEVE PART OF IT WAS TO A SCHOOL, TALKING ABOUT THE LAW REGENERATION CENTER AND I'M AWARE OF THAT PROPERTY BECAUSE WHEN JOHN WARD WAS HERE, WE GAVE HIM $900,000 OF OUR CITY MONEY, AND AT THAT TIME, THAT BUILDING WAS LEFT LIKE THAT, AND IT CONTINUES TO LOOK LIKE THAT.

NOW, THEY HAVE COVERED UP SOME WINDOWS, THERE'S A STAIRS THAT GOES TO HEAVEN.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT GOES. IT SITS THERE AT 13TH AND I. AND OUR TAX MONEY IS INVESTED IN THAT BUILDING. OVER $900,000 WAS GIVEN AT THE TIME BY THIS COMMISSION.

MAYBE NOT ALL OF YOU BUT SOME OF YOU. THAT BUILDING AT 13TH AND I SAT THERE FOR YEARS, BOARDED UP, OPENED UP, YOU HAVE PEOPLE LIVING AROUND THE CORNER.

YOU ALL ARE LIVING IN THE COMPOUND AND YOU HAVE ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN.

SO TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT. BUT THAT IS OUR TAX MONEY THERE. AND YOU'LL HAVE ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN.

THE MAN CAME HERE WITHIN THE LAST YEAR. YOU IGNORED THAT ISSUE, AND YOU GRANTED HIM AND PRAISED HIM AND ALL OF THE, NO REFLECTION ON JEROME BUT WHAT'S GOOD FOR ONE CITIZEN IS GOOD FOR ALL. THIS IS SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT. AND I'M SURE THIS PROPERTY, AFTER THE PRESENTATION THE LADY MADE IS IMPORTANT TO HER AS JEROME'S PROPERTY IS TO HIM AND WE HAVE PAID FOR HER PROPERTY. WE PAY FOR JEROME'S RYAN 'S PROPERTY PROBABLY SEVERAL TIMES. AND SO IT'S JUST SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT.

I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY NOW. WHAT'S THE ISSUE? WHY CAN'T WE WORK WITH THIS LADY AND HIS FAMILY THE SAME WAY WE DID? I WATCHED YOU SOMETIME BACK.

YOU HAD AT WILSON'S BAR. HE WILL CAVE 26 OR 21 OR $2600 FOR A POOL TABLE.

AT THE SAME TIME ON THE SAME COMMISSION, YOU WILL ARE GOING TO TURN THE LIGHTS OUT

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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP.

>> ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN DISCUSSIONS.

>> I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION. I WANT TO ASK PEGGY A QUESTION OR TWO. WITH REGARDS TO THIS PROCESS. AND THAT WOULD BE DID THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT SHE IS IN THE PROCESS NOW OF OBTAINING THE BLUEPRINTS.

IF IN DOING SO SHE ACCOMPLISHES THAT, WHERE WOULD THAT PUT US IN TERMS OF CONDEMNATION

PROCESS FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE? IF SHE ACCOMPLISHES DOCUMENT >> JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE HAVE SPOKEN MULTIPLE TIMES. WE WORKED TOGETHER MANY TIMES. HER CONVERSATIONS USUALLY INCLUDE SOME TYPE OF HISTORY LESSON I GET MORE HISTORY ON THE BACKGROUND OF THIS FAMILY AND THIS PROPERTY. THE PROBLEM THAT STAFF HAD IS THAT IT CAME TO A STALLED POINT. SHE NOTIFIED ME IN OCTOBER 2019 AND MR. BENNETT WAS WORKING ON THE PLANS. BUT THE REJECTION FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAPPENED IN MAY. SO IT'S BEEN NINE OR 10 MONTHS SINCE THE REJECTION HAPPENED.

AND IF THE PERMITS HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE EVERYTHING WOULD HAVE STOPPED.

ONCE THE BUILDING PERMIT IS IMPROVED AND IN HAND AND THEY CAN START THE WORK, WE GO ON HOLD TO ALLOW FOR TIME TO DO THAT. AND IF THAT PERMIT HAD BEEN APPROVED IT WOULD'VE PROCEEDED TO THE NEXT STEP. WE ARE HERE AND THE COMMISSION CAN MAKE A DECISION AND IF SHE GETS THAT PERMIT AND IT STARTS ãWORK STARTS HAPPENING EVERYTHING GOES ON HOLD AS LONG AS A BUILDING PERMIT REMAINS ACTIVE.

IF FOR SOME REASON WORK STARTED AGAIN WE WOULD HAVE TO REVISIT AGAIN.

AS LONG AS THAT PERMIT IS ACTIVE AND WORK IS BEING DONE, WE DON'T REPORT.

WE STOPPED. >> THAT WILL FOR THE MOST PART SO IF SHE CAN GET THAT PERMIT, I STOP. I DON'T TAKE ANY ADDITIONAL STEPS FORWARD AS LONG AS THAT PERMIT REMAINS ACTIVE JUST TO LOOK. IN ãTHAT SHOWS UP ON THE PROPERTY APPRAISER SITE. THAT MIGHT BE A SURPRISE. I DIDN'T SEE THE EARLIER I'M SEEING IT NOW. I'M JUST CURIOUS. WAS HER PREVIOUS WORK DONE? YEARS AND YEARS AGO. THE OTHER THING ãIF I CAN JUST SAY A FEW WORDS WHILE YOU'RE WAITING I'M A I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE UNREASONABLE TO ALLOW THE PROCESS FOR AN ENGINEER TO MOVE FORWARD THE APPLICANT HAS SAID SHE WANTS A MONO PITCH REFLECT WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE.

THAT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. MY POINT IN SAYING THAT IS IT COULD TAKE NO MORE THAN 4 TO 5 WEEKS TO DO EVALUATION SET OF PRELIMINARY ãTO REHAB A STRUCTURE LIKE THAT.

PROCURING A CONTRACTOR OR GETTING INTO THE BUILDING PROCESS.

I COULD SAY IN 60 DAYS YOU COULD HAVE APPLICATIONS SITTING IN PAUL THOMAS'S OFFICE.

THAT'S AGGRESSING. >> UNFORTUNATELY IT'S FROM 01 IN THE COMPUTER SYSTEM WAS NOT

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AS DEVELOPED BACK THEN. SO THERE IS VERY LITTLE INFORMATION IN HERE BUT IT ACTUALLY SAYS DEMOLITION DUE TO CONDEMNATION. SO PERHAPS THE OWNER MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE MORE HISTORY. IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS CONDEMNED BACK IN 2001.

BUT THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT IS SHOWING UP IN THE COMPUTER.

>> THANK YOU. >> CONSIDERING WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH HERE, THEY STRUCTURE SEEMS TO BE PRETTY FAR GONE. WE HAVE BEEN CONDITIONED TO SAY THAT WILLING TO DO WHAT IT TAKES TO DO SOMETHING I WOULD BE WILLING TO SEE DAYS TO 90 DAYS OF REST WITH A CERTAIN THING NEEDED ãA CERTAIN ACTION THAT HAS TO BE DONE BY THAT TIME. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A VALID BLUEPRINT AND BUILDING PERMIT OR CAN YOU HELPED ME, WHAT WOULD HAVE TO BE VALID AND BE DONE BY 60 TO 90 DAYS.

>> I BELIEVE 90 DAYS WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE. JUST SO THAT IF THERE WAS ãTO OBTAIN A PERMIT. THAT WOULD BE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

THAT WOULD ALLOW HOPEFULLY SOMETIME TO SUBMIT THE APPLICATION POSSIBLY TO A NEW SET OF REVISIONS AND MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE. BUT I BELIEVE 90 DAYS TO OBTAIN THE PERMIT. ONCE YOU OBTAIN THE PERMIT AS LONG AS THE PERMIT REMAINS

ACTIVE, GO ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME. >> )

>> EVERYTHING IS OKAY. >> AND TO OBTAIN THE PERMIT WE HAVE TO ãNOT JUST ONE THING.

BUT TWO THINGS. THAT'S GOING TO BE COMPREHENSIVE.

>> YES. THEY CLEARLY UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THEY WOULD NEED.

>> AND SO COMMISSIONERS? IS THERE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION OR A BETTER IDEA?

>> JUST TO GET THE PERMIT. AFTER THAT WE GO FROM THERE. AND THEN IF NEED BE SHE WILL

COME UP >> IF THERE'S NO PERMIT IN 90 DAYS AND WE ARE BACK TO THIS

PARTICULAR SQUARE ONE, CORRECT? >> THERE IS A PROCESS THAT'S HERE.

I THINK COMMISSIONER JOHNSON JUMPED ON IT A LITTLE BIT. THERE IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE SOME ENGINEERING INVOLVED. THIS IS JUST SUBMITTING BLUEPRINTS AND GETTING THE STAMP FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. I DON'T THINK THAT HAPPENS

ANYMORE. I DIDN'T THINK SO. >> I THINK SOMETHING WOULD BE

MORE WORTHWHILE >> MR. MIMS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HELP US?

>> ON THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION I HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL AND OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL IS THE OPINION THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE AT LEAST ONE YEAR FROM THE TIME YOU ACQUIRE A QUALIFIED DESIGNER, ARCHITECT, STRUCTURAL ENGINEER TO COMPLETE THE PLANTS, COMPLETE THE BLUEPRINTS AND COMPLETE THE WORK. WE ARE LOOKING AT THE ONE YEAR TIMEFRAME TO COMPLETE THE WORK. SO AS FAR AS THE BLUEPRINTS, IS UP TO THE ACTUAL ARCHITECT OR STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, HOW FAST AND HOW QUALITY OF A PRODUCT THEY CAN PROVIDE.

>> I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT COMPLETING THE WORK. I'M TALKING ABOUT A GOOD FIRST

ãEIGHT GOOD FAITH FIRST STEP >> SO BACK AT THIS I AGREE AND BUILDING ON WHAT YOU ARE SAYING THERE IS THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE FROM THE APPLICANT TO KNOW ãYOU CAN'T BRING IT IN TWO DAYS BEFORE YOUR 90 DAYS ARE UP AND EXPECT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS. IT'S GOING TO BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE APPLICANT TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE TIMING OF HOW SENSITIVE THE SOUL IS TO BE ABLE TO HIT THE 90 DAYS. THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD ã I WOULD INSIST UPON IS THAT THE SITE BE SECURED IMMEDIATELY. THERE'SNOT ANY TYPE OF INSURANCE ON IT.

IT'S UNSAFE. I'M LOOKING AT IT THINKING IS UNSAFE.

KIDS WILL PLAY ON IT. I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A KID I LOVED PLAYING IN VACANT BUILDINGS. I WAS FASCINATED WITH IT. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SECURE THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY AND I WOULD SUPPORT A 90 DAY PERMIT IN HAND IN 90 DAYS

>> EXCUSE ME JUST ONE SECOND FROM WHAT OUR CITY MANAGER IS SAYING WE ARE SETTING UP TO

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FAIL IF IT'S GOING TO TAKE A YEAR FOR THE COMPLETION.O I'M THINKING MORE ALONG THE LINES OF AT LEAST FOUR MONTHS. REALISTICALLY. THAT'S JUST FOR PURPOSES OF OBTAINING THE PERMIT, NOT TO INCLUDE COMPLETION OF CONSTRUCTION.

WE NEED AT LEAST FOUR IF I CAN PERMIT IN HAND, THE PERMIT GOES, I THINK, SIX MONTHS, AND THEN YOU HAVE ANY TYPE OF ACTION ON TOP OF THAT AND IT EXTENDS BACK ON AND ON.

THIS THING COULD GO ON FOR TWO YEARS. NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ã THERE'S A LOT OF HURDLES SO THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE MADE IN THE NEXT I WOULD SAY 45 DAYS TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS PERMIT DONE IN TIME, AND IF THOSE HURDLES ARE ACCOMPLISHED AND THE PAPERWORK AND BLUEPRINTS, WHATEVER, ENGINEERING DRAWINGS ALL OF THE SPECS AND EVERYTHING ELSE ARE SUBMITTED TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IN A TIMELY FASHION THAT'S GOING TO BE THE TELLTALE OF EVERYTHING.

IT SEEMS LIKE IF THEY HAVE THIS KNOWLEDGE AND DESIGN FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, SO IT'S NOT JUST SOMETHING THEY ACQUIRED YESTERDAY AT ANY TIME TO GET GOING.

THIS HAS BEEN AN INVENTION. IT'S BEEN THOUGHT THROUGH. THERE'S MONEY THAT'S BEEN EXTENDED. THE PROCESS JUST NEEDS TO HAVE TIMESTAMPS ON IT.

I AM WILLING TO SUPPORT A 90 DAY TWO PERMIT. >> PLATINUM MAYOR, I WANT TO CLARIFY. THIS IS A QUALIFIED JUDICIAL HEARING SO I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING THAT WAS TESTIFIED TO US FIRST LEGAL PROCESS IN CLARIFY THAT BECAUSE MR. RAY UNDER OATH SENT IT'S THE PATTERN AND PRACTICE AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, PATTERN AND PRACTICE NOT TO CONTINUE WITH CONDEMNATION IF A BUILDING PERMIT IS OPEN AND ACTIVE. HOWEVER, THERE'S NOTHING IN THE TOAD THAT PREVENTS THE CONDEMNATION FROM CONTINUING ON EVEN IN LIGHT OF A BUILDING PERMIT BE ISSUED AND OPEN AS THIS COMMISSION IS AWARE THERE'S ANOTHER PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY THAT HAS HAD THAT EXACT SITUATION GO ON FOR MANY YEARS. SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT AS TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THERE'S NO LEGAL PROHIBITION TO PREVENT THAT FROM CONTINUING IN THE

CONDEMNATION PROCESS. >> IF I COULD ãTHE CONDEMNATION STATUS WOULD NOT

CHANGE. >> THE PROPERTY WOULD REMAIN UNDER THE CONDEMNED STATUS UNTIL IT'S INSPECTED BY BUILDING INSPECTOR AND THEY SAY IT'S NO LONGER CONDEMNED.

BUT IT'S THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS THAT I DO THAT I HAVE BEEN TASKED WITH TO MOVE FORWARD THING AT A CERTAIN POINT I NEED TO COME TO THE COMMISSION AND RECOMMEND DEMOLITION BECAUSE NO ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN. SO THE DEMOLITION PROCESS, THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS TOWARDS DEMOLITION WOULD STOP WITH THE ISSUANCE OF A PERMIT.

THE CONDEMNATION STATUS STAYS INTO THE BUILDING INSPECTOR EXPECTS IT AND SAYS THAT IT'S NOT LOVABLE. SO THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE PIECES ã

>> AND I APPRECIATE ãAND I ã AT LEAST I CAN SEE THAT THIS STRUCTURE HAS BEEN VERY, VERY COMPROMISED STATE, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT TO GET IT. AND I KNOW YOU HAVE MADE SEVERAL EXTENSIONS, MORE THAN SEVERAL. SO THERE HAVE BEEN GOOD FAITH EFFORTS ON THE APPLICANT PROSPECT PARK TO PULL IT ALL TOGETHER AND IT HASN'T HAPPENED. AND THAT MAY HAPPEN THIS TIME. I AM INCLINED TO MAKE THIS ONE LAST EFFORT BEFORE WE PROCEED ON IT. THAT'S WHAT I'M INCLINED TO.

SO I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR A REALISTIC TIMEFRAME. YOU THOUGHT 90 DAYS WAS NOT A

REALISTIC TIMEFRAME? >> MCNAMARA, IT'S NOT REALISTIC.

IT'S ALL BASED UPON ACQUIRING THE SERVICES OF A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL EITHER STRUCTURAL ENGINEER AND IN THE TIEBREAK IT TAKES ARCHITECT TO COMPLETE THE PLANS, SUBMIT THE PLANS AND HAVE THEM REVIEWED BY OUR DEPARTMENT AND ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT AND THEN ISSUING THE PERMIT. SO 90 DAYS, I THINK IS A LITTLE TIGHT, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO SAY IT CAN'T BE DONE. BUT CONSERVATIVELY I THINK MAYBE THE NEIGHBOR OF 100 TO 120 DAYS, FOUR MONTHS WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE CONSERVATIVE TO COMPLETE THE DESIGN AND GET THE BLUEPRINTS READY, SUBMIT AND HAVE A BUILDING PERMIT ISSUED AND IN HAND OF THE OWNER.

>> I MAKE THAT MOTION. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> YOU MADE THE MOTION.

DID SOMEBODY WANT TO SECOND IT? COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> THANK YOU.

MR. HOW LONG IS IT TAKING US TO ISSUE RESIDENTIAL PERMITS FOR SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES?

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>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TOP OF MY HEAD. >> AND I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR AND IT MAKES SENSE. I JUST KEEP GOING BACK TO WHAT I SAW IN THE RECORD CARD AND SOME OTHER HISTORY ON THE PROPERTY. MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ARE ALWAYS ASKING US TO FOCUS ON AND HELP WITH THE AVENUE D COURT ORDER.

I THINK IF IT'S AN AGGRESSIVE APPROACH, 30 DAYS FOR A PROFESSIONAL MAYBE EVEN 45 AND 45 DAYS FOR PERMIT APPLICATION AND REVIEW AND SITTING DOWN WITH STAFF IF THERE'S A QUESTION OR AN RFI OR QUESTIONS A PROFESSIONAL HAS TO ANSWER BACK TO THE PLAN REVIEWER.

I MEAN, THERE'S A MOTION, AND I DIDN'T HEAR YOU MAKE THE MOTION ON HOW MANY DAYS.

>> FOUR MONTHS. >> 120 >> WHATEVER FOUR MONTHS EQUATES

TO. >> ONE THING THAT REALLY MOTIVATES ME IS THE MENTION OF MR. ÃMAURICE. TAKING ON THIS PROJECT, I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR ALONG YOU ARE ON THAT, BUT I KNOW HE'S INTO DOING THESE KINDS OF THINGS, PERFORMING MIRACLES WITH THINGS THAT APPEAR TO BE IMPOSSIBLE. HE IS FROM THIS COMMUNITY AND HAS TAKEN ON THIS PROJECT AND HAS PROBABLY GOT GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS AND I KNOW IF HE'S GOING TO BE INVOLVED, IT WILL GET DONE. I TRULY AND REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT BASED ON HIS HISTORY AND WHAT HE'S DONE FOR THIS AREA IN TERMS OF REVITALIZING. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT YOU SAY NO WAY. MAURICE CAN TACKLE IT. HE WILL BRING ALL THE PARTS

PTOGETHER. >> I WOULD ASK THE MOTION COULD ALSO INCLUDE THE SECURING OF THE PROPERTY AND FIXING THE FENCE AND MAKING SURE THAT THE PROPERTY IS SUSTAINABLE.

>> MAKING THEM PRESENTABLE AND LOOKING AT EVERYBODY ELSE BECAUSE THAT'S AN AREA WE WORK

WITH THE THIRD >> ON THE OFF CHANCE SHE DOES NOT COMPLY WITH ANY FORM

NECESSARY DATE CERTAIN TO BRING THIS BACK TO THE COMMISSION >> SHORT.

WHAT IS THAT DATE? >> ABSOLUTELY. THAT WOULD BE

>> THE MIDDLE OF THE MONTH. 120 DAYS OF THE NEXT MEETING AFTER THAT, I SUPPOSE.

>> SOMETIME IN JUNE >> I WILL FIND IT IN JUST A SECOND.

COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, I BELIEVE, WAS CURIOUS BECAUSE THE QUESTION TO ADD THE AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION ALSO SHOULD BE SECONDED. SO THAT'S DEFERRED TO THE

COMMISSIONER. >> >> IT'S SECURE.

>> SECURE ãCOMMISSIONER, WAS IT THAT YOU COMMIT >> ARE MORE COMMITTED TO THE

MOTION MAKER AND THE MOTION MAKER AGREED. >> I JUST WANTED TO CLEAR THE

RECORD >> I APOLOGIZE. 120 DAYS FROM NOW WILL BE THURSDAY, JUNE 18, SO THE QUESTION IS, WOULD YOU WANT TO MOVE TO THE NEXT REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING AFTER THAT AND THAT WOULD HAVE TIME TO ALSO KNOW ãIT WOULD BE EARLY JULY, BUT THAT WILL ALSO GIVE YOU TIME TO UNDERSTAND WHETHER OR NOT 120 DAYS HAS BEEN MET AND THEREFORE ANY OTHER ISSUES. YOU WOULD HAVE SEVERAL DAYS BUILT AND AFTER THE FACT.

>> OKAY. >> AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT THE APPLICANT UNDERSTANDS WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO BY THE FIRST MEETING IN JULY.

AND SO SOMEBODY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR EXPLAINING ALL OF THE DETAILS OF WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO. BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS TO OBTAIN THE PERMIT BY JULY 6.

>> RIGHT. >> IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND HOW MANY DAYS IT'S

TAKING TO REVIEW THE PLAN. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT DAVIS WRIGHT >> IT WILL BE JUNE 18.

>> WHAT DATE DID YOU SAY? >> JUNE 18 IS 120 DAYS FROM TODAY TO BE BROUGHT BACK AT A

HEARING POTENTIALLY ON JULY 6, 2020. >> IF NOT COMPLY.

IF COMPLIED WE WILL BRING IT BACK. >> GENTLEMEN YOU CAN TELL ME TO SOME DEGREE WE COULD ENTERTAIN WHAT HE WANTED TO SAY HE MAY BE ABLE TO HELP YOU OUT.

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BECAUSE THE PROCEDURE DOESN'T ALLOW US BUT HE MIGHT BE VERY HELPFUL.

THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. LET'S VOTE.

[b. Legislative Hearing - Ordinance No. 20-004 - An ordinance amending the Future Land Use of four parcels at or near 2152 S Jenkins Road from Medium Density Residential (RM) to High Density Residential (RH). FIRST READING]

ORDINANCE BY THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO CHANGE THE DESIGNATION OF FOUR PARCELS GENERALLY LOCATED AT OR NEAR 2152 SOUTH JENKINS ROAD FROM CITY OF DENSITY RESIDENTIAL RM TO CITY OF FORT PIERCE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL RH PROVIDING FOR OPERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR A REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS IN CONFLICT IN PROVIDING FOR AN

EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS THE FIRST WRITING. >> WELCOME BACK.

>> THANK YOU. MADAME MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, BEFORE YOU DECIDE THE FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT FOR FOUR PROPERTIES LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 2152 SOUTH JENKINS ROAD. THE CURRENT VIGILANTES ON THE PROPERTY IS RM MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A FUTURE LAND USE CHANGE FOR THE FOUR PARCELS FROM RM MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO OUR AGE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST AS IT IS CONSISTENT WITH SURROUNDING FUTURE LAND USES. IT IS CONSISTENT WITH SECTION 20 FEBRUARY 1, 2021 IN THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN DOES NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, CONVENIENCE AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL UPON THE REQUEST.

SO THE PURPOSE FUTURE LAND USE JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA WOULD BE OUR AGE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THERE ARE TWO OTHER PARCELS THAT ABOUT THIS PROPERTY THAT ALSO HAVE OUR AGE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USE AND WHAT ADDITIONAL INTO THE SELF THAT IS NOT ABOUT THE PARCEL. POSSIBLE ACTION YOU CAN APPROVE THE REQUEST TO HAVE THIS ITEM TRANSMITTED TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA FOR REVIEW OF STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE LOCAL PLANNING AGENCY IS RECOMMENDING HER APPROVAL OR YOU CAN DISPROVE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TRANSMITTAL TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS

YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. >> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF?

>> YES. I'M SORRY. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP AND SHOW ME THE EXISTING ZONING? WHAT'S THE STRUCTURE TO THE SOUTH OF US PARCEL COMMIT

>> THAT IS A SCHOOL. >> OKAY. >> IT WAS RECENTLY ANNEXED AND

FROM THE COUNTY. >> ALL RIGHT. AND THEN TO THE NORTH OF THIS

PARCEL WE HAVE MEDIUM DENSITY? >> GUESS >> AS INDICATED HERE AND INTO

THE NORTH ABOUT HIS WHAT DEVELOPMENT COMMIT >> CELEBRATION POINT.

>> AND WHAT IS THE ZONING IN THE FUTURE >> DEVELOPMENT AND FUTURE LAND USE IS OUR DUTY. THEY HAVE APPROXIMATELY 744

UNITS WITHIN THAT DEVELOPMENT. >> RIGHT. SO THIS REQUEST WE HAVE AN IDENTITY REQUEST. WHAT'S IT GOING TO DO TODAY PARCEL THE CITY TO THE EAST OF THIS? I MEAN, IT FEELS LIKE IT'S GOING TO ISOLATE A MEDIUM

DENSITY BY ITSELF. THERE IS A SQUARE PARCEL THERE. >> WE HAD AN APPLICATION MEETING A FEW MONTHS AGO ABOUT THE THREE PARCELS I'M GOING TO POINT OUT RIGHT HERE AND THEN THIS ONE TO THE NORTH. PRELIMINARILY, THE WOULD LIKE TO DO MULTIFAMILY HOUSING WITH THAT AREA AND THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING IN A ROAD INTO THAT DEVELOPMENT.

THIS ROADWAY RIGHT HERE IS UNIMPROVED COUNTY ROAD. IT EVENTUALLY WAS SUPPOSED TO GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH TOWARDS THIS AND LINCOLN TO MISS THE FANEUIL STREET

>> THERE IS A CANAL THERE AT A WATER FEATURE AND STRUCTURE >> THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET OVER

THE CANAL. >> RIGHT. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS ABOUT THE ZONING DISTRICT ITSELF. SO THERE IS A REQUEST HERE FOR THE HIGH DENSITY. TALK TO ME ABOUT THE ZONING DISTRICT.

WHAT ãTHE DENSITY IS THE HEIGHT. WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS

DISTRICT? >> BASED OFF OF THE REQUEST WHICH YOU WILL HEAR ASK FOR THE R5, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IN THE R5 COULD BE 200 FEET, HOWEVER, DENSITY WILL ALWAYS BE HEIGHT,

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SO MOST LIKELY THERE WILL NEVER BE A BUILDING THAT WOULD GO 200 FEET TALL BECAUSE THE DENSITY ON THE PARCEL WOULD NOT ALLOW IT TO GO 200 FEET TALL. CURRENTLY UNDER THE R FOR ZONING DISTRICT IT HAS A MAX OF 12 UNITS PER ACRE FOR AN INNOVATIVE DEVELOPMENT.

10 UNITS PER ACRE PER YEAR CONVENTIONAL DEVELOPMENT. IF IT WERE TO GO TO HER OR FIVE YOU COULD HAVE A MAX OF 10 UNITS PER ACRE. IS THERE ANY BONUS DENSITIES IF

THEY CONSIDER FEATURES IF THE OWNER WANTED ã >> THERE IS A BONUS DENSITY IF YOU ARE WITHIN ONE FOURTH MILE OF A TRANSIT STOP YOU CAN REQUEST UP TO THREE ADDITIONAL

UNITS PER ACRE IF YOU ARE OUTSIDE OF THE CRA DISTRICT. >> THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING TO. SAY THAT ONE AGAIN WHAT'S IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE OF A CRA DISTRICT YOU CAN REQUEST UP TO THREE ADDITIONAL UNITS. IF YOU ARE WITHIN THE CRA YOU GET FIVE ADDITIONAL UNITS. IF YOU ARE WITHIN ONE FOURTH MILE OF A TRAIN STOP.

>> ALL RIGHT. AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, RIGHT?

>> YES. >> OKAY. I KNOW WE ARE ALWAYS ENCOURAGING AND WE ENCOURAGED A LOT OF INFILL AND DEVELOPMENT WITHIN OUR CRA.

HOW CLOSE IS THE CRA BOUNDARY TO THIS? >> I BELIEVE IT STOPS AROUND

25TH ST. WEST 33RD. >> SO WE ARE A LITTLE WAYS AWAY FROM THE CRA AT LEAST AT THIS

POINT. >> ALL RIGHT. THAT'S GOOD FOR NOW.

THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM STAFF? OKAY. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, PLEASE COME FORWARD. WELCOME. SIGN IN AND STATE YOUR NAME AND

ADDRESS FOR US, PLEASE. >> FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS DENNIS MURPHY.

THE FIRM OF CULPEPPER & TERPENING IN FORT PIERCE AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY ALONG JENKINS ROAD AND YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOUR PETITION FOR CHANGE IN LAND USE IN A PETITION FOR CHANGE IN ZONING. THE FIRST READING FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTIES. AS BRANDON POINTED OUT IN REGARD TO THE FUTURE LAND USE PETITION ãI'M GOING TO KEEP MY COMMENTS SEPARATE ON THIS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THIS IS STRUCTURED. IT'S QUASIJUDICIAL. AS BRANDON POINTED OUT THIS IS A PETITION TO AMEND THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM RM TO OUR AGE TO PERMIT THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA.

EVERY INDICATION THAT MY CLIENT IS GIVEN HE IS HE HAS NO INTENTION OF BUILDING A 200 FOOT HIGH BUILDING. IT WOULD BE SOMETHING MORE AKIN TO WHAT YOU WOULD SEE DOWN THE STREET AND ACROSS OVER BEHIND US A LITTLE TO THE SOUTHEAST. FOR THIS PARTICULAR MATTER, THIS IS THE FIRST OF TWO REQUIRED STOPS THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH UNDER THE REVIEW PROCESS. ONCE ãASSUMING IT LEAVES YOU WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION AND I SINCERELY HOPE THAT IT DOES. IT'S MYUNDERSTANDING WILL GO TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY FOR A REVIEW AND THEN BACK HERE IN ABOUT 60 DAYS ã90 DAYS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR FINAL ACTION AND FINAL REVIEW.

I AM OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, AND I'M AWARE THERE MAY BE SOME COMMENTS OR SOME CONCERNS, SOME BROADER COMMUNITY CONCERNS THAT AFFECT THIS AND OTHER PROPERTIES ALONG THE JENKINS ROAD CORRIDOR THAT I JUST MAY HAPPEN TO BE THE UNFORTUNATE OR FORTUNATE DEPENDING UPON YOUR POINT OF VIEW CATALYST TO BRING THEM ALL FORWARD FOR FURTHER COMMUNITY DISCUSSION. RESPECTFULLY, I WOULD ASK YOU FORWARD THIS ON FOR FURTHER REVIEW AND COMMENT AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS OR MAJOR ISSUES OR MINOR ISSUES OR ANY ISSUES THAT COME UP OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

>> ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? >> YOU HEARD SOME OF MY QUESTIONS. JUST LOOKING AT THE CORRIDOR ITSELF ON JENKINS ROAD IS GOING TO CHANGE IN THE NEXT 15 YEARS, AS WE ALL KNOW. YOU KNOW, WE HAD A SCHOOL ADJACENT TO THE PARCEL, AND I'M JUST LOOKING LONG TERM. WHY NOT JUST COME FORWARD WITH A ITEM FOR THE NEXT ITEM? I DON'T KNOW WHICH DOOR TO GO THROUGH.

I WILL PROBABLY ASK AT THE WAY THE NEXT TIME >> HOW ABOUT I ANSWER THEM.

>> OKAY. >> SO YOU HAVE GIVEN A PRESENTATION.

IS IT CONSISTENT FOR THE CORRIDOR TO ASK FOR THIS? >> I BELIEVE IT IS.

I BELIEVE THE JENKINS RECORDER REPRESENTS ãIF YOU TAKE THE COUNTY MAP OUT AND YOU GO LOOK TO SEE WHERE JENKINS ROAD LOGICALLY SHOULD START AND WHERE IT SHOULD LOGICALLY END,

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YOU GOT A PRETTY LONG ARTERIAL CORRIDOR THAT TRAVERSES THE BULK OF THE CENTER PART OF THE COUNTY. IT'S NOT A LOCAL ROAD. IT IS A MAJOR NORTH-SOUTH ARTERY THAT HASN'T DEVELOPED YET. IT EVENTUALLY WOULD CONNECT TO THE AIRPORT AND CONNECT INTO THE INDUSTRIAL AREAS DOWN THE ROAD.

IT HAS POTENTIAL FOR CONNECTIONS TO I-95 AT MIDWAY POTENTIAL THE TURNPIKE AT MIDWAY CLEARLY I-95 AT OKEECHOBEE, THE TURNPIKE AT OKEECHOBEE.

ORANGE AVENUE AND WORKING YOUR WAY UP TO THE AIRPORT EXTENSION CORRIDORS AS THEY MOVE WEST OUT TOWARDS THE TURNPIKE AND THE INTERSTATE. YOU'VE GOT A COURT ORDER.

IT'S NOT A LOW-DENSITY COURT ORDER. IS IT A STRIP COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR? HELL NO. LET ME BE BLUNT ABOUT THAT.

I AM NOT ã >> WATCH YOUR LANGUAGE FOR ME TOO, PLEASE.

>> EXCUSE ME. I AM NOT AN ADVOCATE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM FOR STRIP COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. SOME KIND OF COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY.

WE USE THE TERM HIGH DENSITY. I THINK A LITTLE MORE LIBERALLY, IF THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT NUMBERS IN OUR AREA. HIGH TO US IN THE TREASURE COAST AREA, HIGH DENSITY, IS SOMETHING MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES TO THE ACRE COULD YOU GO INTO A TRUE URBAN ENVIRONMENT OR A TRUE SUBURBAN DEVELOPING ENVIRONMENT IDENTITY IS A LOT HIGHER THAN THAT. IT'S NOT THAT SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT DENSITY OR INTENSITY WHEN YOU ARE WORKING WITH WALKED UP TO HER THREE-STORY TYPE BUILDINGS AND YOU GET INTO FOUR, FIVE, SEVEN, EIGHT AND NINE THE NUMBERS ARE DIFFERENT.

AND THEN YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AND SEE IS THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT APPROPRIATE THROUGH HERE HI AND I THINK THE ANSWER IS CLEARLY NO. WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WHAT REALLY GOVERNS WHAT GOES ON THE PROPERTY IS ULTIMATELY WHAT SITS THERE.

AND WHAT FITS TRANSLATE BACK INTO WHAT IT COSTS TO BUILD AS MUCH AS WE DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT, IT IS A KEY FACTOR IN DEVELOPMENT AND DEVELOPMENT CONSIDERATIONS.

WHAT DOES IT COST TO COME OUT AND BUILD THIS PARTICULAR STRUCTURE.

AND THE LAND ECONOMICS ARE SUCH THAT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET MUCH MORE THAN A THREE-STORY ABF ARCHITECTURALLY INTERESTING FOUR-STORY HERE AND THERE. BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT.

SO IT'S STAGE AND YOU GO ANYWHERE AROUND THE STATE OF FLORIDA OR ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY YOU WILL SEE A GARDEN APARTMENT TYPE COMMUNIIES SIMILAR IN NATURE TO THAT.

GO INTO TRADITION AND THE NUMBER OF APARTMENTS THAT ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED GATHER OVER THE LAST COUPLE ãTHE LAST YEAR OR SO. YOU SEE WHAT YOU CAN HAVE THERE. AND THE OTHER PART OF IT IS WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT ã IT'S MORE OF A STATEMENT OF UNFORTUNATE ECONOMIC REALITIES, THERE IS A GROWING AND CONTINUING SHIFT TO ATTACH AND MULTIFAMILY HOUSING IS BEING ESSENTIALLY AFFORDABLE.

I'M NOT TALKING ãI'M TALKING FROM AN AFFORDABLE TYPE OF HOUSING UNIT.

THE HOUSE THAT WE GREW UP IN WITH THE CONCEPT OF THE ATTACHED SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE AND A LARGE SIZED LOT IT IS BECOMING MORE DIFFICULT ECONOMICALLY TO ACHIEVE EVERY DAY. FOR REASONS THAT GO WELL BEYOND ALL OF THIS, IT IS WHAT WE HAVE TO LIVE WITH. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT GIVES YOU AN ANSWER OR AN OPINION OR

A COMBINATION OR BOTH. >> IT DOES, AND I APPRECIATE IT.

LOOKING AT THE BROADER SCOPE OF THE CORRIDOR AND TRYING TO FIT IT ALL IN AND ALL THE PARTS AND PIECES. YOU KNOW, IT IS THE FUTURE LAND USE.

SO IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT IT AND GO TO THE COMMUNITY.

IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE THAT'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT >> OF THE STATE PUBLIC SCHOOL

NEXTAR? >> THIS IS SAM GAINES. >> OKAY.

AND SO IN THE PROCESS OF THE PERSON, THE OWNER, IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPING IT AT SOME POINT WOULD HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS AND THE SCHOOL IMPACTS WOULD HAVE TO DO HAT?

>> YES. BECAUSE WHEN WE COME IN FOR FINAL DEVELOPMENT ORDER, THE ACTUAL AUTHORIZATION, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO THE STANDARD CITY AND REVIEW PROCESS OR THE PLANT DEVELOPMENT PROCESS OR WHATEVER PROCESS WE GO UNDER THAT COMES IN AND ASSESSES ALL OF OUR SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT TYPE OF IMPACTS.

AND OUR OBLIGATION TO MITIGATE WHATEVER OUR IMPACTS ARE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? >> THANK YOU, VERY MUCH.

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, COME FORWARD. I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT BE COMING FORWARD.IMON FOR US, PLEASE, AND THEN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

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>> YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES WITH A THREE SECOND WARNING. >> I AM GLAD SHE TOLD YOU THAT.

PROCEED. YES. I AM HERE ãLESLIE OLSON PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR FOR ST. LUCIE COUNTY, FOR THE RECORD.

I'M JUST HERE THIS EVENING ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY ON JENKINS ROAD AS A COURT ORDER.

IT IS A COUNTY ROAD. WE HAVE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE TO SEE A LOT DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS ON JENKINS ROAD OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS. DURING THE BOOM WE HAD SOME DEVELOPMENT THAT IS BEING BUILT. WE ARE FORTUNATE TO BE SEEN CELEBRATION POINTS BEING BUILT OUT. CANDOR OUTDOORS IS BEING BUILT OUT. WE ARE SEEING A LOT OF ACTIVITY HAPPENING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF OKEECHOBEE BEING BUILT OUT. AND SO WHAT I AM HERE TO DO TODAY IS TO ASK THAT PRIOR TO THE SECOND READING OF THIS ORDINANCE, AFTER IT GOES UP TO THE STATE FOR REVIEW AND IT COMES BACK, I AM ASKING THAT WE CAN PLEASE EVALUATE THE FULL TRIP ãTHE FULL TRIP NOT ONLY WHAT IS EXISTING TODAY ON JENKINS REST, BUT ALSO THOSE APPROVED TRIPS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED OVER TIME YET NOT BUILT OUT. SUCH AS CELEBRATION POINT, CANDOR OUTDOORS, WHISPERING OAKS, OTHER DEVELOPMENTS PERHAPS ON THE SOUTH SIDE THAT NEED TO BE EVALUATED KOA, AND THOSE IMPACTS ON THE JENKINS ROAD CORRIDOR.

ASK THE COUNTY ãAS THIS IS OUR ROADWAY TO MAINTAIN, WE ARE ASKING FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP TO EVALUATE ALL OF THESE THINGS THOROUGHLY AT THE TIME THAT WE PROVIDE THESE ENTITLEMENTS FOR THIS DENSITY AND FOR THESE EXTRA TRIPS. WE ARE ãWE HAVE PURSUED A STUDY TO DETERMINE WHEN WE CAN EXPECT THE ROAD TO FAIL ITS LEVEL OF SERVICE GIVEN ITS CURRENT ENTITLEMENTS, NOT EXTRA ONCE, BUT JUST EXISTING ONES. AND WE HAVE PROVIDED THOSE.

THE STUDY TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND WE ARE ALSO PURSUING FUNDING TO EXTEND JENKINS ROAD AS A MAJOR ARTERIAL AS MR. MURPHY IDENTIFIED.

ALL THE WAY SOUTH TO MIDWAY. AND SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A MAJOR NORTH-SOUTH CORRIDOR FOR US, BUT WE DO NEED TO EVALUATE THOSE IMPACTS AS WE GO FORWARD AND AS WE IDENTIFY EACH INDIVIDUAL PROJECT BECAUSE AT SOME POINT, THE LEVEL OF SERVICE DOES FAIL.

THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? PLEASE COME FORWARD. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN DISCUSSION. I HAVE A QUESTION. DIDN'T WE HAVE AN ISSUE BEFORE US THAT DEALT WITH IMPACTS ON THIS ROAD AND IT WAS A SCHOOL THAT WAS ON JENKINS ROAD? WASN'T THAT IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS? AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WAS THERE WAS A STUDY THAT I THINK CAME FROM THE COUNTY THAT TALKED ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF DRIVING ON THE ROAD AND WE WERE WONDERING WHY THIS ROAD WHICH WAS SO FAR AWAY FROM THIS PARTICULAR SCHOOL PLAYED INTO IT. SO I AM WONDERING IF THAT IS WHAT THE SPEAKER WAS TALKING PABOUT, ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY. DO WE HAVE THAT TRAFFIC STUDY?

> OKAY. >> THAT'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS, I KNOW.

SORRY. >> I THINK YOU ADEQUATELY SUMMED UP WHAT OCCURRED.

I BELIEVE IT WAS OUR LAST COMMISSION MEETING. THERE WAS A CHARTER SCHOOL, AND THAT SCHOOL HAD SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT ST. LUCIE COUNTY WAS ASKING OF THEM WITH REGARD TO THE INTERSECTION OF SALVAS AND EDWARDS. AS FAR AS JENKINS ROAD, I BELIEVE THEY WERE AMENABLE TO THIS OFF-SITE IMPROVEMENTS. I AM NOT QUITE SURE IF WE HAVE THAT STUDY. LOOKS LIKE JEN IS SHAKING HER HEAD.

>> WE DID RECEIVE THAT TODAY. >> I DO AGREE. I SAW LESLIE COME UP AND SHE TALKED ABOUT HAVING A JOINT APPROACH. WE DO NEED TO HAVE A JOINT PLANNING APPROACH. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS FROM THE ASPECT OF DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH AND ROADWAY CAPACITY. I THINK WE NEED TO START TAKING A HARD LOOK AT JENKINS ROAD

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BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE THE FUTURE OF THAT WESTERN NORTH-SOUTH CORRIDOR, AND WE'VE GOT TO GET ON TOP OF IT RIGHT NOW. I THINK WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT TO SPEND ALL THE MONEY THEY WILL SPEND ON JENKINS ROAD THE LEAST WE CAN DO IS GIVE THEM

THE INFORMATION >> THE TPO HAS GOT IT ON THE DRAWING BOARD.

TPO. >> MADAME MAYOR, IF I MAY JUST ADD TO THAT THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE OUR FIRST JOINT MEETING WITH THE COUNTY ON MARCH 6 WILL BEAR GOING TO BE LOOKING AT A MORE COOPERATIVE APPROACH TO A TRAFFIC PLAN LOOKING AT PERHAPS CONCEPTS FOR CREATING ALTERNATIVES FOR OUR ROADWAY NETWORK MORE OF A GRID PATTERN IN SOME OF OUR DEVELOPING PATTERNS SO TRAFFIC DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE TO ENTER AND EXIT ON TWO MAJOR HIGHWAYS.

>> AND IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, WE HAVE SOMEBODY IN THE COUNTY AND THE AUDIENCE MIGHT BE PAYING ATTENTION IS WHAT WE FELT ãAT LEAST FOR THAT CHARTER SCHOOL WAS THE IMPACTS BUT IT WAS PASKED TO DO SEEMS TO BE ALL ON MAN EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS OTHER DEVELOPERS THAT COULD HAVE

SHARED IN THE COST OF THOSE DEDICATIONS. >> I HAVE SENT SUBSEQUENT TO THAT MEETING THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION WITH PETITIONER FOR THE CHARTER SCHOOL AND THERE'S

A FAIR SHARE. >> GOOD. I APPRECIATE THAT.

>> I DIDN'T HEAR THAT. FAIR SHARE OF WHAT? >> EXCUSE ME.

THE CHARTER SCHOOL REPRESENTATIVES, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE COUNTIES REQUIREMENTS REQUESTED CONDITIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT AND THE PETITIONER HAS ACCEPTED TO TAKE SOME

RESPONSIBILITY FOR PROVIDING FUNDS FOR THAT INTERSECTION. >> AT A FAIR SHARE.

>> CORRECT.> OKAY. MADAME MAYOR, Y QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, I WELCOME THESE DEVELOPERS THAT'S COMING IN TO THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE AND NOT PORT ST. LUCIE BECAUSE WE NEED TO GROW. AND SO OUR TAXES DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ROOF.

IT SEEMS AS THOUGH EVERY TIME WE WELCOME ONE DEVELOPER, WE DENY ANOTHER.

AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHY MY CITY CAN'T GROW. AND IF I SAID HERE IT WOULD BE ON THE SIDE OF THE NON-GROWTH, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAYING IT ON PURPOSE.

>> ANOTHER THING, I APPRECIATE BEING UP ON THE COUNTIES RADAR BECAUSE THINGS ARE ABOUT TO HAPPEN. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS REAL HARD, BUT I GIVE SOME THOUGHT TO WHAT COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER IS SAYING. I DON'T WANT TO SCARE ANYBODY OFF. AND WE KNOW THAT EVERYBODY HAS TO PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE.

WE WALKED A THIN LINE BECAUSE THEY CAN GO OTHER PLACES. HE USED TO WORK HERE.

FT. PIERCE IS FINALLY GETTING SOME ATTENTION. AND PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE BUILDING. A PRIME EXAMPLE, WE HAVE MORE PERMITS PULLED HERE THAN IN THE HISTORY OF THE CITY. IT'S AS A RESULT OF THE STAFF AND THE ARTWORK AND THE POTENTIAL THAT OUR CITY HAS. I JUST WANT US TO BE CAREFUL WITH HOW WE ãDO NOT DEPRECIATE AGAIN WE WILL DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO BUT LET'S NOT THERE THERE SCARE PEOPLE OFF.

I BELIEVE IT'S WHAT WE ALL WANT MS GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT AND TAKES SOME OF THIS BURDEN OFF OF THE TAXPAYER SO WE CAN PAY THE POLICE OFFICER, SO WE CAN DO SO MANY THINGS WE HAVE BEEN

SUFFERING FOR IN THE PAST. WE NEED THAT GROWTH. >> AND THE GROWTH IS SUPER IMPORTANT, AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE ALL HAVE DONE OUR OWN EFFORTS TO TRY TO PUSH THAT NEEDLE FORWARD. I HAVE BEEN SAYING PARTNERSHIP MORE THAN I HAVE IN 10 YEARS LATELY. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE COUNTY AND I THINK WE NEED TO START STEPPING IN THE SAME STEP. I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE GOING THROUGH A PLANNING PROCESS NOW AND WE SHOULD BE SHARING HOURS AND SITTING DOWN WITH THEM. I TALKED TO MR. MINTZ TODAY ABOUT A WORKSHOP WHERE WE CAN SIT THERE AND IDENTIFY WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO FT. PIERCE, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE COUNTY. HOW CAN WE DO THIS TOGETHER RATHER THAN EVERYBODY GO OUT AND PLANT THEIR OWN AND PUSH THEIR OWN AGENDAS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE ARE HERE AND WE HAVE ISSUES BACK AND FORTH. THE ONLY WAY THIS WILL WORK OUT IS IF WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE ALL TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. SO THIS IS ALL GOOD. THESE ARE THE GOOD PROBLEMS WE HAVE ALWAYS WANTED. IT WAS BEFORE EVERY MAN FOR THEMSELVES.

IT'S NOT ANYMORE. THIS IS THE WORLD WE LIVE IN, AND WE MAY BE LOOKING AT

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DEVELOPMENTS IN A CERTAIN AREA WHERE THE ROAD IS OWNED AND MANAGED BY THE COUNTY AND VICE VERSA. THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT

AND THEN UNDERSTANDING ABOUT WITH OUR PARTNERS >> AND WE WERE UNHAPPY WHEN ALL THOSE DEVELOPMENTS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT AND HAD TO HOLD AT THE LAST RECESSION.

SO NOW IT'S HAPPENING AND WE WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT WHEN IT HAPPENS.

>> AND TO BUILD ON THAT ãI APPRECIATE LESLIE BEING HERE. WE DIDN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT THIS AND IT WAS MY INTENTION TO COME TALK TO YOU AND I DID NOT. I'M SO GLAD YOU ARE HERE.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE AREA, ONE THING WE HAVE TO DO ãWE WENT TO EMBRACE DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S ABOUT THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, AND WHEN YOU CHANGE FUTURE LAND USES AND YOU START LOOKING AT THESE THINGS, IT GOES THROUGH THE REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL AND THEN IT GOES THROUGH TPO AND THEY START LOOKING AT THE ROAD AND THE LEVEL OF SERVICES AND WE START LOOKING AT ãFROM A COUNTY AND A CITY LEVEL, YOU KNOW, AND IN THIS CASE WHY I WAS ASKING ABOUT DENSITIES EARLIER AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT IT MORE TIME IN A MINUTE.

YOU ARE OVERJOYED. I CAN SEE IT. YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB.

THANK YOU, SIR. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT OVER 120 UNITS ADDITIONAL FROM WHAT'S ALREADY THERE RIGHT NOW, SO WE HAVE TO START THAT FOCUS AND THAT PLANNING AND GETTING IN TUNE WITH EACH OTHER BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE ARE FIGHTING AN UPHILL BATTLE.

AND THERE'S NO NEED FOR THAT. >> WE ARE GOING TO BE BROWARD COUNTY IS WHAT WE ARE SO WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. SO RIGHT. SO I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION OR

MORE DISCUSSION. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THE APPROVAL OF STAFF'S

RECOMMENDATION >> IS THERE A SECOND? >> I WILL SECOND

>> IS THERE DISCUSSION? CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

[c. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Ordinance No. 20-005 - An ordinance rezoning four (4) properties generally located at or near 2152 S Jenkins Road from Medium Density Residential (R-4) to High Density Residential (R-5). FIRST READING]

>> NEXT, WE HAVE ORDINANCE 20 ã 005, AND THIS IS A QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING.

AN ORDINANCE BY THE CITY CAN MISSION REZONING FOR PARCELS GENERALY LOCATED AT OR NEAR 2152 SOUTH JENKINS ROAD FROM CITY OF FT. PIERCE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ARE FOR TWO CITY OF FT. PIERCE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ARE FIVE PROVIDING FOR A SEPARATE SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR NO WE WILL ASSUME EVERYBODY LISTEN TO THE CITY ATTORNEY ON THE QUASI-JUDICIAL ROLES AND HAVE

THE ADVERTISEMENT REQUIREMENTS BEEN MET? >> YES.

>> AND HAS ANY COMMISSIONER HAD ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS? CAN YOU PULL THE COMMISSION?

>> ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? THANK YOU. CAN YOU COME FORWARD AND WE ASK THAT YOU SIGN IN WITH YOUR NAME

AND ADDRESS AND ALSO CONFIRM THAT YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN. >> HE WILL NOW MAKE YOUR

PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.

COUPLED WITH THE LAST REQUEST THIS IS A ZONING ATLAS AMENDMENT FOR FOUR PARCELS LOCATED ON APPROXIMATELY 2152 SOUTH JENKINS ROAD.HE CURRENT VIGILANTES OF THE PROPERTY IS RM THE INTENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THE ZONING IS OUR FOUR MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THE REQUEST IS FOR A ZONING ATLAS MAP AMENDMENT TO CHANGE FOR PARCELS FROM MEDIUM DENSITY ARE FOR RESIDENTIAL TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ARE FIVE.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST BASED ON CONSISTENT WITH SURROUNDING ZONING CONSISTENT WITH SECTION 22 131 OF THE CITY CODE AND ENCUMBRANCE OF PLAN.T DOES NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY WELFARE AND THE PLANNING BOARD IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. 23 NOTIFICATIONS WERE SENT OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS.

ONE LETTER WAS RETURNED IN PAPER AND ZERO LETTERS WERE RETURNED IN OPPOSITION.

AS NOTED, THE PLANNING BOARD ON JANUARY 14, 2020, VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO APPROVE THE REQUEST. POSSIBLE ACTIONS BY THE CITY COMMISSIONER TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED REZONING WITH NO CHANGES IN STATUS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AND THE PLANNING BOARD IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. YOU CAN PROPOSE IT WITH CHANGES OR YOU CAN DISAPPROVE THE PROPOSED REZONING. I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU. >> ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

WHAT IS THE PLANNING BOARD AWARE OF THE COUNTIES ãOR OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS AND THE

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KIND OF DISCUSSION WE HAD TONIGHT? DID THAT HAPPEN AT THE PLANNING

BOARD LEVEL? >> THERE WAS A LITTLE DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.

THERE USUALLY IS ALMOST PRODUCTS THAT HAPPEN ON JENKINS ROAD

>> THEY USUALLY DO THAT?KAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> IN THE REPORT THAT YOU GAVE BRANDON THAT TALKED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC REPORT, SOUTH JENKINS ROAD IN THIS AREA THE LEVEL OF SERVICE C? WAS NOT STUDY DONE BEFORE OTHER APPLICATIONS OF COME UP?> YES, THE STUDY WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE ãLET'S SEE. SO THIS IS TRAFFIC REPORT FROM

THE TPO FROM 2019. SO YEAH. >> THANK YOU

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I WOULD LIKE THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD, PLEASE. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF BEFORE YOU BEGIN?

>> NO >> YOU MAY BE EXCUSED. >> MADAM MAYOR

>> YOU'VE BEEN SWORN IN. YOU EXCITED >> I HAVE SIGNED IN.

YEAH. I APOLOGIZE. IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

FOR THE RECORD I AM DENNIS MURPHY WITH THE FIRM OF CULPEPPER AND GERMANY HERE REPRESENTING THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY ON JENKINS ROAD AS DISCUSSED ON THE LATEST PRIOR PRESENTATION. I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU FORWARD OR YOU FORWARD ON FIRST READING IN OUR PETITION FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING TO OUR FIVE AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS PETITION FOR A ZONING CHANGE WITHIN BE HELD PENDING THE RETURN OF THE PETITION APPROXIMATELY 60 DAYS, 90 DAYS WHATEVER THE PROCESS TIME IS AS OPPOSED TO THE STANDARD TWO OR THREE WEEKS TO COME BACK IN FRONT OF YOU SO IT WILL SIT HOLD FOR A WHILE. DURING THE INTERVIEWING TIME PERIOD, WE WILL WORK ON BEHALF OF OUR CLIENT, WE WILL WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO TRY AND DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN TO HELP PARTICIPATE AND HELP FACILITATE ANY KIND OF COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF THE JENKINS CORRIDOR TO ADDRESS THE BROADER COMMUNITY CONCERN ABOUT TRANSPORTATION, IT IS MORE THAN A LINEAR CORRIDOR. OTHER THAN NORTH OR SOUTH OR OTHER TRANSPORTATION CONSIDERATIONS THAT CAN BE GIVEN, AND WEARING MULTIPLE HATS OVER THE YEARS I THINK AS YOU ALL KNOW I AM KIND OF KNEE-DEEP IN A LOT OF THIS STUFF.

KIMBERLY TOOK IT AT THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND THE PRIVATE PROPERTY AND IN THE AREA ITSELF CAN COME UP WITH A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO COME IN AND FIX THIS BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW IT'S EXPENSIVE TO BUILD A ROAD. AND, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT. TPO OR NOT TPO. IT TAKES TIME FOR THEM.

>> FIVE YEARS. >> YOU ARE OPTIMISTIC, AREN'T YOU?

>> WITH THAT I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THIS BE ADVANCED TO THE NEXT STAGE AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I AM HERE TO TRY TO ANSWER THEM.

>> ANY QUESTIONS? >> WE TALKED ãTALKING ABOUT ZONING.

SO WHY WOULD WE WANT TO CHANGE THE ZONING AT THIS POINT AND NOT LOOK AT A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TYPE APPLICATION? WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE HERE FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE?

>> FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, MY CLIENT 'S EASIEST PATH TO MOVE FORWARD.

ANYBODY'S GOING TO TELL YOU THAT. THAT'S THE SIMPLEST WAY OF DOING IT. WE ARE IN THE EARLY STAGES OF DOING SOME MASTER PLANNING AND SITE PLANNING FOR THE PROPERTY ITSELF. AND IT IS GOING TO BE A MULTIFAMILY COMMUNITY SIMILAR IN NATURE TO THOSE THAT ARE IN THE SURROUNDING AREA RIGHT NOW.

WE BELIEVE THAT THE ARE FIVE ZONING GIVES US THE BASIC CODE REQUIREMENTS AND CODE ISSUES WE NEED. I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE APPLICATION AND DPD.

I UNDERSTAND THE PROTECTIONS THAT IT GIVES THE CITY, AND I WILL RELATE SOME OF THESE CONCERNS AND COMMENTS BACK TO MY CLIENT SO WHEN WE RETURNED BACK HERE AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT WE MAY HAVE AN AMENDED PETITION IN FRONT OF YOU.

I CAN'T TELL YOU RIGHT NOW YES OR NO BECAUSE I'M NOT AUTHORIZED TO DO THAT BUT I CAN TELL YOU I WILL TAKE IT BACK AND HAVE A CONVERSATION AND GIVE THEM THE BODY LANGUAGE

READ. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE BIGGEST IMPACT TO ME IN A CORNER LIKE THIS JENKINS ROAD HAS CHANGED AND IS MORPHING INTO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN

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WHAT RESIDENTS ARE USED TO. THE BIGGEST IMPACT ãTHE BIGGEST CHANGE.

NOT THE BIGGEST IMPACT. IT'S JUST THE HEIGHT PARAMETERS BECAUSE IT CHANGES THE PARAMETER, WHICH THE ãTHE APPLICANT WAS ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT.

IT COMES DOWN TO COST. YOU TALK TO US BEFORE ABOUT COST, AND THERE IS COST ASSOCIATED WITH MULTILEVEL, MULTISTORY TYPE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THERE IS STILL THE OPTION THERE. SO I DON'T KNOW. JUST HAVE MORE RESERVATION IN THIS ONE THAN I DO BUT THE LAST ONE BECAUSE OF ARBITRARILY LOOKING AT ZONING, CHANGING ZONING.

HAVE A SCHOOL NEXT DOOR, I HAVE A BODY OF WATER OR A COMMAND SYSTEM ADJACENT TO THIS PARCEL, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE SOME RESERVATIONS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS,, I UNDERSTAND THE CORRIDOR AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING WITHOUT HAVING THE APPROVAL TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DEVELOP OR WHAT YOU ãWHAT YOUR CLIENT IS LOOKING AT. SO IT'S A CHALLENGE. FROM THIS PERSPECTIVE.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON I APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERNS. I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY FEAR IS OR NOT NECESSARILY THE FEAR OR THE PERCEPTION OR THE WHAT IF COULD OCCUR.

THE BEST I CAN TELL YOU AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME IS THAT THIS IS A TWO-STAGE HEARING PROCESS, AND I AM NOT IN A POSITION TONIGHT TO COME IN AND GET ANY DEFINITIVE COMMITMENT, ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND AND I THINK I CAN ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN.

I WOULD ASK THAT THE COMMENTS BE NOTED FOR THE RECORD, THEY OBVIOUSLY ARE, AND BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE COME BACK TO YOU WILL, PROBABLY WELL IN ADVANCE OF YOUR STAFF.

WE MAY HAVE SOMETHING THAT COMES IN AND ADDRESSES THE CONCERN THAT YOU HAVE.

AS YOU JUST ARTICULATED IT IN THIS REGARD FROM A DESIGN POINT OF VIEW.

WE WILL SEE WHERE WE FALL FROM THERE. >> THAT'S YOUR ANSWER

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.E MIGHT ASK YOU TO COME BACK. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS

THIS ISSUE, COME FORWARD. >> I THINK YOU WERE SWORN IN, RIGHT?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION AGAIN I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WELCOME AND YOUR COLLABORATION WITH US IS THE COUNTY.

THE LEGISLATURE, THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAS TAKEN ACTIONS THAT MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR US TO PLAN OUR TRANSPORTATIO SYSTEMS. ESSENTIALLY, OUR PROPORTIONATE PER-SHARE SYSTEM HAS BEEN GUTTED, SO ONLY THE LAST PERSON IN PLACE BEFORE IT FAILS.

IT'S ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL FOR US TO WORK WITH YOU BECAUSE THERE IS ãWE ARE WORKING FOR WAYS TO FIND WAYS AS MR. MIMS SAID SPEND LOTS OF MONEY ON JENKINS ROAD.

THERE IS SO MUCH MONEY AND THEY ARE EXPENSIVE. ANY CLOSING REMARKS WE WOULD

CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING. >> I WANT TO MAKE COMMENT OVER THIS PAST WEEKEND.

YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A BEAUTIFUL CITY. >> SHE DRUG ME ALL OVER CLAREMONT. I'M JUST SAYING EVERYTHING I'M LOOKING AT IS BEING NEW, BEING BUILT, BEING BUILT NOW. AND FOR US TO SPEAK ABOUT JENKINS ROAD.

PEOPLE GO THAT DIRECTION. YOU HAVE A SCHOOL RECORD. YOU HAVE DEVELOPMENT AFTER DEVELOPMENT AND I THINK ãIT'S TIME FOR THE COUNTY TO LIVE UP TO ST. LUCIE COUNTY BEING ST.

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LUCIE COUNTY BECAUSE IT WILL ALLOW PORT ST. LUCIE TO GO ALL THE WAY TO OKEECHOBEE.

AND THEY ARE SERIOUS. SERIOUS. FOR US TO DENY THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE ãAND I HARP ON THIS BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN PAYING ãTHEY HAVE BEEN PAYING ALL OF THESE YEARS FOR FORT PIERCE TO SURVIVE AND WE CAN'T DENY THAT TO THEM.

THAT'S IT. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> JUST, AGAIN TO ECHO MY COLLEAGUE IN TERMS OF WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE COME FROM. WE COME FROM NOTHING, AND IT SEEMS LIKE A LITTLE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL, AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, THINGS ARE STARTING TO FINALLY FALL IN PLACE IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY AND ALL I CAN SAY

IS HATS OFF TO MR. MURPHY AND KEEP THEM ROLLING. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR

EMOTION? >> MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS >

SECOND. >> I AM CHALLENGED HERE IF IT DOES GO THROUGH, YOU HEARD MY COMMENTS. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF EXACTLY HOW, BUT IT'S WHY ARE WE CHANGING AT THIS POINT I'VE GOT A LITTLE RESERVATIONS. THERE'S TWO READINGS.

YOU KNOW MAYBE ON NUMBER 2 WE GOT SOME TIME TO CHANGE MY OWN MIND SO I CAN'T SUPPORT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE OTHER AVENUES FOR DENSITY DEVELOPMENT, P.D. PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TYPE MOVEMENTS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE IMPACTS TO THE SCHOOL AND TRAFFIC.

THERE'S JUST SOME UNKNOWNS FOR ME AT THIS POINT. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR ANSWERS

TONIGHT. >> ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ARE WE READY TO VOTE? CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

[d. Quasi-Judicial Hearing - Ordinance No. 20-003 - Review and approval of an application for a Zoning Atlas Amendment and Design Review submitted by representative Brian Nolan for property owner Cone & Graham, Inc., to rezone 12 parcels from General Commercial (C-3) to Planned Development (PD) and approval of a Site Plan for a 144-unit multi-family development at 1919 South 35th Street, Fort Pierce, FL. FIRST READING]

>> THANK YOU. SO THE NEXT IS ORDINANCE 20 ã 003.

ORGANIZED BY THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA REZONING 12 PROPERTIES GENERALLY LOCATED AT OR NEAR 1919 S. 35TH ST. FROM C3 GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO P.D.

PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. FURTHER APPROVING A DEVELOPMENT PLAN PURSUANT TO SECTION 22 ã 40 PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ORDINANCE OR ãIN PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS THE FIRST READING. THIS ALSO IS A QUASIJUDICIAL

HEARING. >> SO YOU HAVE HEARD MR. SWEENEY'S OUT THE RULES FOR THE

QUASIJUDICIAL PROCEEDING. HAS ADVERTISING BEEN MET? >> ADVERTISING HAS BEEN MET FOR

THIS ITEM >> HAVE ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY EXPERT TO COMMUNICATIONS? COULD YOU PULL THE COMMISSION PLACE?

>> NOT RECENTLY IF IT'S THE SAME PROPERTY THAT CAME BEFORE US A FEW YEARS AGO?

OKAY. I CAN SAY YES. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON?

>> NO, MA'AM. NOT SPECIFICALLY TO THIS BUT I HAVE SEEN IN PREVIOUS

APPLICATION. >> I DO NOT RECALL. THAT'S A NO.

>> I DON'T REMEMBER, BUT ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE. IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS.

I'VE GOT A SHORT MEMORY >> WE WILL GIVE YOU A KNOW UNLESS YOU COME UP WITH

SOMETHING ELSE. MAYOR HUDSON? >> NO.

>> THANK YOU. >> SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A HEARING NOW BUT WOULD YOU LIKE

TO SWEAR IN THE WITNESSES? >> ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND

PNOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? >> YES. >> WILL YOU COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD ALONG WITH YOUR ADDRESS AND CONFIRM THAT YOU HAVE BEEN

SWORN IN. >> YOU CAN GIVE HER PRESENTATION.

>> THANK YOU MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A REZONING DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPLICATION FOR THE MASTER CREEK PRESERVE LOCATED AT APPROXIMATELY 1919 S. 35TH ST. THIS ENCOMPASSES 12 PARCELS. THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE ON THE PARCEL BACK IN DECEMBER YOU HAD AN APPLICATION MOVE THROUGH HERE TO REQUEST A CHANGE THE PROCESS TO AND USE OF RN YOUR PAPPROVAL. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THIS MORNING MAP AMENDMENT DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT REVIEW DESIGN REVIEW TO CONSTRUCT AND

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OPERATE DEVELOPMENT 143 BUT THE APPROVAL OF THE ASSISTANT WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, INCLUDING SECTION 22 IS WITHIN AND PLANNING BOARD IS RECOMMENDING THIS JUST UP THE STREET WITH THE SITE PLAN AND IT WILL LOOK LIKE FOR THE PROJECT IN THIS PROJECT ORIGINALLY CAME TO THE CITY COMMISSION IN 2007 PROJECT CALLED MISSION GARDENS AND WAS 138 UNIT MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS. THE APPLICANT IS ONLY ASKING FOR A FEW ADDITIONAL UNITS OF 144 THERE'S GOING TO BE SIX BUILDINGS AND IT WILL BE 24 UNITS EACH.

THERE WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 229 PARKING SPACES ON THE PROPERTY WHICH IS A SURPLUS OF 43 PARKING SPACES ABOVE WHAT CODE REQUIRES. THERE'S GOING TO BE TWO ACCESS POINTS, ONE ON TO OKEECHOBEE ROAD AND ONE ON 2 S. 35TH ST. THE LANDSCAPE CODE ãTHE LANDSCAPE IS CONSISTENT WITH CITY CODE 22 ã187 AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A DENSITY BONUS BECAUSE THERE WASN'T ONE WORD WILL TRANSIT STOP BECAUSE THEY'RE OUTSIDE OF IT. EVERYTHING CAN ONLY GET UP TO THREE UNITS PER ACRE THIS IS JUST TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE BUILDINGS WILL LOOK LIKE AUPON COMPLETION.

NONOSIDEWALK SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED ON THE PROPERTY'S BOUNDARY FRAMING THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY FROM SOUTH THROUGH THE STREET AS OTHERS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH COUNTY CITY CODE OPTIONS MAYBE THE TIME AS I DEVELOPMENT PERMITTING THE APPLICANT SHALL CORRELATE WITH REGARD SIDEWALKS AS WE RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR COUNTY OWNED FIVE IS IDENTIFIED ON THE TEMPS BROADWAY PRODUCTION PLANT IN THE FUTURE IF IT RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION OF ONE HALF OF THE REMAINING REQUIRED RIGHT-OF-WAY IN THE AMOUNT OF FIVE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY IS REQUIRED.

THE APPLICANT SHALL COORDINATE WITH ST. LUCIE COUNTY REGARDING THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION.

6 S. 37TH ST. IS A LOCAL ROAD AND NOT ON THE COMPANY'S BROADWAY PRODUCTION PLANT.

THE MINIMUM RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR LOCAL ROAD IS 70 FEET THE CURRENT WIDTH IS DEMONSTRATED AT 30 FEET.HE DEDICATION OF 20 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY IS REQUIRED IN THE APPLICANT SHALL COORDINATE WITH ST. LUCIE COUNTY REGARDING THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION.

SEVEN SUBMIT THREE SETS OF UTILITY PLANS NOTO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE LETTER WILL RETURN THE FAVOR AND ONE LETTER WAS RETURNED IN OPPOSITION.

>> AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> ANY QUESTIONS OF DEATH? ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I AM OPEN TO PUBLIC HEARING AND I WELCOME THE APPLICANT TO THE PODIUM AT THIS TIME. YOU WERE SWORN IN, I THINK. IF YOU WILL SIGN IN FOR US AND

THEN ã >> I AM LEE DOBBINS I AM AN ATTORNEY WITH THE LAW FIRM.

HERE IN FORT PIERCE. AND I ALSO HAVE HERE WITH ME BRIAN NOLAN HE IS OUR LAND PLANNER. I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.

WE DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION READ THIS EVENING BUT WE ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK STAFF FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK ON THIS

>> DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? >> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS

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OF STAFF >> SO YOU MAY BE EXCUSED. SO DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO IT? DO YOU WANT US TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS?

>> JUST WELCOME TO ASK ME QUESTIONS. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO

THE PRESENTATION. >> YOU HAVE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

THERE'S NONE OF THEM. I'M SURE THAT YOU HAVE AGREED TO ALL OF THESE.

YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES TO ANY OF THEM? NORMALLY WE GET THREE OR FOUR.

I THINK IT'S JUST R. DOBBINS, THAT DRAWS BACK. THIS IS AN WE HAVE A COUPLE OF LANGUAGE CHANGES ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I WILL DEAL WITH THE RIGHTS-OF-WAY AND THEY TALK ABOUT HAVING FIVE FOOT OF RIGHT-OF-WAY AND 20 FOOT OF RIGHT-OF-WAY.E ARE NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY REQUIREMENT FROM THE COUNTY WILL BE.

IT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT LESS SO YOU WANT THE LANGUAGE TO SAY UP TO FIVE FEET AND UP TO 20 FEET.

OTHER THAN THAT THE CONDITIONS ARE FINE. >> YOU HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE AND WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND RIGHT-OF-WAY. YOU KNOW WHAT IS IN STORE AND

WE ARE IN A COLLABORATIVE MOOD TONIGHT. >> MY PLAN HAS BEEN DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE UP TO THE MAXIMUM REQUIREMENT. ORIGINALLY, WE WERE SCHEDULED COME FORWARD AND LET ME KNOW O ABOUT THAT. I REALLY BEGGED THEM TO PLEASE PUT ON FOR FEBRUARY BECAUSE MY CLIENT WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT AND HE PUT TOGETHER THE PACKAGE IN THE DRAFT PACKAGE AND GOT IT TO ME AT 10:30 TONIGHT.

I HAD NO IDEA. YOU HAD A REALLY GOOD STAFF PERSON

>> ME KNOW, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE STORY. >> MY QUESTION IS I RECALL ãI THINK IT WAS BACK IN 2007. BUT I RECALL THIS, AND I WAS THANKFUL BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO SEARCH OUT AND FIND OUT HOW WE WERE GOING TO ACCOMMODATE THE COLLEGE STUDENTS, AND I AM LOOKING AT THIS AND THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY NEED AND EXACTLY THE AREA AND THE SPOT AND THE PLACE. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WILL YOU HAVE AN ON-SITE MANAGEMENT?

>> ON-SITE MANAGEMENT? >> THE COMPANY OR ANYTHING AS SUCH?

>> YES. THERE WILL BE ON-SITE MANAGEMENT

>> SO I MEAN I KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A PARTY OR TO. >> COLLEGE KIDS?

IMAGINE THAT. >> IMAGINE. I KNOW.

I JUST WANTED TO WELCOME YOU AGAIN BECAUSE I WAS HOPING IT WAS BEING BUILT BY NOW, BUT I

CAN WAIT. >> A LITTLE BIT OFF THE WALL AND OUTSIDE THE DESIGN STANDARDS, BUT JUST THINKING ABOUT 20/20 AND THINKING ABOUT COLLEGE CAMPUSES LIKE DCF AND I ARE GOING TO BE ACROSS THE STREET FROM WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THEM. WHAT KIND OF INNOVATIVE DESIGN IDEAS OR DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT IS NOT REQUIRED, BUT THAT IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS, SCOOTER, PARKING STATIONS? THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS HAPPENING IN UNIVERSITY TOWNS, MAYBE NOT AT THE STATE COLLEGE LEVEL. ANY THOUGHTS THERE?

>> I KNOW THERE WAS MORE BIKE RACKS THAN WERE REQUIRED. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THOSE OTHER ITEMS, AND I DON'T THINK THEY WORK RECIPROCALLY ADDRESSED IN THE SITE PLAN.

>> IT'S JUST A FAMOUS TALK ABOUT MORE AND MORE EVERY TIME WE GO TO A TPO MEETING.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MULTIMODAL AND MICRO-MOBILITY TYPE TRANSPORTATION.

SO TRADITIONAL DEVELOPMENT IS GREAT. HOWEVER, HOW DO WE CHANGE WITH

IT? >> IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

MY SON IS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA AND IT'S AMAZING THE AMOUNT OF SCOOTERS THERE.

THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN A GOOD THING. IT'S KINDA DANGEROUS WHEN ALL OF THEM ARE ON THE ROADS WITH THE TRAFFIC. THEY ARE VERY POPULAR.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. >> THESE ARE RENTALS, RIGHT? THESE ARE GOING TO BE RENTALS?

ND SO IT IS OBVIOUSLY GEARED TOWARDS COLLEGE >> I ANTICIPATE THAT THAT WOULD

BE A PRIME USER FOR IT, FOR THE LOCATION >> WE HAVE A GOOD PIZZA PLACE

RIGHT THERE TOO. >> SO OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE

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APPLICANT? OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE MAY CALL YOU BACK UP. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE? PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NO ONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL ENTERTAIN DISCUSSION OR EMOTION.

>> MOVED TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITIONS. >> SECOND

>> OKAY. >> I'M SORRY. I WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING HERE.

>> I WAS GOING TO JUMP ON YOU. >> I FELT IT COMING. >> IT'S UP TO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.

>> 5 AND 6. >> I CONCUR. >> SO MY QUESTION IS TO STAFF, AND I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN GO OUTSIDE, BUT STAFF, WITH THIS AMENDMENT, WHO IS WHAT I FIGURE IS YOU ANTICIPATED BUT THE COUNTY NEEDS WERE GOING TO BE AND THAT'S WHY YOU PUT THE LANGUAGE IN THERE. IF THAT'S THE WAY IT IS YOU WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH OUR AMENDMENT BUT IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE AMENDMENT THIS IS A GOOD CHANCE FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO TELL US WHAT'S WRONG WITH IT AND WHY WE NEED TO AMEND SOMETHING THAT'S ARTY

BEEN DONE >> SEARCHES FOR INFORMATION PURPOSES, THESE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS WERE ACTUALLY VERBATIM FROM THE COUNTY. BUT I THINK THE CHANGES THAT MR. DOBBINS HAS PRESENTED STILL SATISFIES THE INTENT OF THE TWO CONDITIONS SO I WOULD BE

COMFORTABLE WITH MOVING FORWARD. >> OKAY.

I'M HAPPY WITH THAT. >> THE LAWYER VER THERE IS UP WITH THAT? OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? SHALL WE VOTE?

[a. Resolution 20-R10 Amending membership eligibility for Fort Pierce Youth Council.]

THANK YOU. >> NEXT, WE HAVE RESOLUTION 20 ãR 10 RESOLUTION BY THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE RESIDE RISING THE REQUIREMENT FOR APPOINTMENT TO THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE COUNCIL AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>> MR. MEN'S DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THIS OR WE DISCUSSED THIS AT THE LAST MEETING.

WE ALSO KNOW THAT THIS CHANGE IS ABOUT. >> YES, MA'AM.

MOVED TO APPROVE >> SECOND? >> SECOND.>> ANY DISCUSSION? CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

[b. Resolution 20-R11 Appointing members to the Fort Pierce Youth Council]

R 11. A RESOLUTION THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE CERTIFY THE APPOINTMENT OF MEMBERS TO THE YOUTH ADVISORY COUNCIL AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. I HAVE FOR YOU THAT I CAN PASS OUT A HANDOUT THAT HAS A LIST OF ALL OF THE NAMES OF ANY PEOPLE THAT WERE SUBMITTED. EACH COMMISSIONER GETS TO

CHOOSE ONE IS A REPRESENTATIVE >> MAY I SPEAK ABOUT A MAN THAT I WANTED TO APPOINT? I DON'T SEE HIS NAME HERE, BUT I CAN JUST CALL HIM MR. JOHNSON.

I WANTED TO KNOW HOW DO I GO ã >> I THINK AS FAR AS I KNOW AND MADAME CLARK YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, OU CAN STATE THE NAME OF THE PERSON YOU WANT AND THEN SHE WILL GET THE APPLICATION FROM HIM AND IF HE MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, IT'S DONE.

>> BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAY WEEKEND JUST PASSING. I WAS OUT OF TOUCH BUT I WASN'T ABLE TO ãAGAIN, I CAN JUST GIVE YOU HIS LAST NAME AND I CAN CALL HIM MR. JOHNSON.

I KNOW HIS FATHER WAS SUPPOSED TO COME OUT AND FILL OUT THE APPLICATION, BUT I DON'T SEE

HIS NAME HERE. >> YOU COULD TELL THE CLERK TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THEM?

>> YES. >> SO THAT YOURS, MR. JOHNSON. I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT ALEAH

JOHNSON. >> CAN I MAKE MY APPOINTMENT? >> I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT GRACE FEE. BRI KACEN. SEND

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>> I WILL GO WITH THE YOUNG LADY FROM CENTRAL TO SO FROM THIS LIST WE HAVE TWO AT-LARGE POSITIONS AS WELL, SO THE REMAINING LEFT FROM WHICH YOU CAN CHOOSE OUR FRANKLIN FROM WESTWOOD, MATTHEW KEADY FROM WESTWOOD, LITA MOORE FROM JOHN CARROLL AND KEISHA WERE ANNOYED FROM CENTRAL. SO YOU CAN EITHER RANK THEM, CHOOSE TO AND RANK THEM AND I CAN TALLY THEM AND IF YOU WANT TO CALL OUT HER NAME AND THAT THE MAJORITY OF YOU COME

FORWARD >> WHAT I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT WE CAN PICK TO BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE RESOLUTION CALLS FOR. BUT I'M SO PLEASED THAT WE HAVE FOUR NAMES.O I WOULD LIKE FOR STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TWO PEOPLE THAT DON'T GET PICKED FOR WHATEVER REASON, ENCOURAGE THEM TO ATTEND THE MEETINGS AND BE A PART OF THE PROCESS BECAUSE WITH YOUNG PEOPLE AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME IN HER LIFE, THINGS COULD CHANGE VERY RAPIDLY, AND THEY ARE INTERESTED ENOUGH TO FILL OUT AN APPLICATION, I WOULD LOVE FOR THEM TO BE INVOLVED.

I DON'T WANT TO CUT ANYBODY OFF OR MAKE THEM FEEL THEY ARE CUT OFF FROM THE PROCESS.

SO I WOULD ãIS THERE ANY ãI DON'T KNOW ANY OF THE FOUR.

THAT. EVERYBODY LIKES LASHAWNDA? SO ã

>> THAT'S A WESTWOOD. >> WHICH SCHOOL TO ME NOT? >> WE HAVE ALL OF THEM.

SO I WOULD SAY KEISHA. I LIKE THAT ONE CENTRAL. >> THAT'S COMMISSIONER

ALEXANDER STRIKES. ALL RIGHT. >> AND THEN WE CAN ENCOURAGE THE OTHER TWO BECAUSE AT THIS AGE YOU DON'T WANT TO FEEL LIKE YOU'VE BEEN REJECTED.

THEY HAVE BEEN REJECTED. I DON'T WANT THEM TO FEEL THAT WAY.

I WANT THEM TO ATTEND THE MEETINGS AND PARTICIPATE. >> WHAT DO YOU CALL THE PEOPLE THAT STAND BY? ALTERNATES. WE DIDN'T CREATE THEM.

IT'S A PUBLIC MEETING AND THEY CAN COME AND PARTICIPATE, AND IF ANY OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE TROUBLE FULFILLING MESS ãIT MIGHT EVEN BE SOMEWHAT BENEFICIAL BECAUSE THEY CAN INTERACT WITH ALL OF THEM. IF YOU ARE THE ULTIMATE BUT NOT FORMALLY ON THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE TO DO COMMITTEE WORK AND ABIDE BY THE. BUT THE OTHER TWO ãTHEY ARE

FREE. >> WHAT WE WANT THEM TO BE A PART OF THIS PROCESS VERY MUCH X AND THE OTHER THING, IF WE COULD, MR. HEADY WAS ONE OF THEM.

THOSE WERE THE TWO? I THINK ONE IS A SOPHOMORE AND ONE IS A FRESHMAN.

THERE'S LOTS OF OPPORTUNITY. THEY ARE UNDERCLASSMEN. KEEP THEM INVOLVED

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. HE IS MY NEIGHBOR AS WELL. >> WHAT THE STATUS HERE?

>> YOU AND I HAVE CONSULTED ABOUT THIS AND ALTHOUGH I CANNOT CONCEIVE OF ANY TYPE OF SPECIAL INTEREST, HOWEVER, THE PERCEPTION IS REALITY AND IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION NOT TO HAVE ANYBODY MAKING ANY ACCUSATIONS FOUNDED OR OTHERWISE THERE IS SOME TYPE OF ãI WOULD ADVISE YOU NOT TO VOTE ON THAT ISSUE. DECLARING A CONFLICT BASED ON ADVOCATING A KINSHIP. I WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH THE APPROPRIATE DOCUMENTATION SO

JUST ABSTAIN ON THE WHOLE BOOK OR THE INDIVIDUAL? >> WELL ã

>> RESOLUTION IS JUST ONE BOAT >> RESOLUTION IS ONE SO IT'S WITHIN.

>> SO I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE BALLOT OF CHOSEN >> SECOND.

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>>

[14. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>> NOW IS THE TIME FOR COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHICH YOU COME FORWARD. YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES AND YOU WILL HAVE A THREE SECOND WARNING. SIGN IN FOR US, PLEASE AND THEN STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD

AND ADDRESS. >> RICK B 2625 S. U.S. 1. I WROTE A LETTER THE OTHER DAY TO MR. MEN'S AND COPIED YOU ALL AND IT WAS REGARDING ALLOWING KEITH HOLMES'S MEDICAL RECORDS, 61 PAGES, TO BE POSTED ON THE FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT.ORG IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN. IT WAS INTIMATE MEDICAL RECORDS.

AND THEY SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ALLOWED.HE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS ãI DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND. IT'S ABOVE MY PAY GRADE. BUT IT WAS DESPICABLE.

WE HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO THAN TO DO THAT TO SOMEBODY. AND IT JUST GENERATES CONSTANT LEGAL ISSUES WITH THIS CITY. INSTEAD OF PAYING POLICE OFFICERS AND BUILDING ROADS AND DOING ALL THE THINGS YOU CLAIM YOU CAN'T DO NOW WE ARE INVOLVED IN THIS QUAGMIRE.

AND IT COMES BACK TO OUR POLICE CHIEF. SO I WENT BACK AND I LOOKED AT HER BACKGROUND REPORT. IT TOOK US FOREVER TO GET IT. AND WHEN SHE WAS HIRED, THERE WERE THREE ISSUES THAT WERE NOTED. AND IN DEPOSITIONS THAT WERE GIVEN IN A FEDERAL CASE THAT WERE PAID FOR ACROSS THE STREET.

ONE, AND YOU ALL KNEW OF THIS, ONE WAS HER CREDIT BACKGROUND. IN OUR READING RIGHT OUT OF HER BACKGROUND REPORT IN HER FILE HERE AT THE CITY. ONE ACCOUNT WAS SETTLED FOR LESS THAN FULL BALANCE IN ONE ACCOUNT WAS IN FORECLOSURE. SHE HAD DISPLAYED LATE PAYMENTS AND AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT DISPLAYED LATE PAYMENTS AND WAS IN FORBEARANCE ON HER STUDENT LOANS. AND FORBEARANCE ALLOWS THE DELAY ALONE IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO PAY. AND IT JUST ACCRUES INTEREST. SHE DID EVERYTHING SHE COULD TO GET OUT OF A BACKGROUND CHECK. SHE ALSO REFUSED TO BE CERTIFIED FOR HER GUN HERE.

SHE THREW A HISSY FIT ABOUT THAT. AND THEN THE MOST INTERESTING THING WAS THE FDLE AGENT THAT WAS TASKED AT THE TIME IN A DEPOSITION WAS ASKED, WHY DID YOU LEAVE YOUR POSITION WITH THE FDLE? THE FDLE AND I WERE NO LONGER SEE EYE TO EYE ON A NUMBER OF ISSUES AND IT WAS MAKING MY JOB DIFFICULT IN THE SENSE THAT WAS PUT IN A POSITION THAT I DIDN'T NECESSARILY THINK WAS ETHICAL FOR MY OWN PERSONAL STANDARD.

DID ANY OF THESE ISSUES WHERE YOU FELT YOU WEREN'T SEEING EYE TO EYE WITH THE FDLE ANY LONGER HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT? IT WAS PART OF MY DECISION TO LEAVE, YES. THAT WAS AN FDLE AGENT. YOU KNOW, TO PUT THIS BAND'S MEDICAL RECORDS IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN, 61 PAGES, AND EVEN I WON'T STAND HERE AND SAY WHAT THOSE MEDICAL RECORDS STATED, BUT THEY WERE THE MOST INTIMATE, PERSONAL BETWEEN A

MAN AND HIS DOCTOR, BETWEEN A PATIENT AND HIS DOCTOR. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NO ONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AND

[15. COMMENTS FROM THE CITY MANAGER]

MOVE ON >> COMMENTS FROM THE CITY MANAGER.

>> MADAM MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION WE HAVE HAD A VERY, VERY BUSY LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO AN EVEN BUSIER END OF FEBRUARY. AS YOU ALL KNOW ALL FEBRUARY 15 WE HAD THE HOT WOMAN FESTIVAL FOR HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE.

WE HAD MUSIC FUN ART, FOOD AND I THINK IT WAS A FANTASTIC GATHERING.

SOME OF OUR MOST RENOWNED LOCAL ARTISTS WERE THERE, AND WE HAD MANY VISITORS, ESPECIALLY FROM THE CITY OF PORT ST. LUCIE. I MUST HAVE SPOKEN TO I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE FROM PORT ST. LUCIE WHO CAME TO VISIT OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY.

AND EVERY SEAT, IS MY UNDERSTANDING, CLOSE TO EVERY SEAT OF EVERY ONE OF THOSE BOOKSTORES WAS SOLD OUT. SO WE HAVE AT LEAST 150 PEOPLE CIRCULATING THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY LEARNING ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE PART OF THE HOT WEATHER AND I THINK ONCE AGAIN THIS POSSIBLE HAS REALLY BROUGHT GREAT NOTORIETY AND RESPECT TO THE CITY OF FT.

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PIERCE. THAT'S ONE THING. I ALSO ãFEBRUARY 20 MOVING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE AS PER YOUR DIRECTION WE ARE SLATED TO HAVE A MEETING WITH REGARD TO ANNEXATION AND I'D LIKE TO THANK THE MAYOR FOR STEPPING IN AND MAKING SURE THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. WE WILL BEGIN THE PROCESS OF IMPROVING OUR ANNEXATION PRACTICES AND LOOKING AT WAYS TO CORRECT SOME OF THE DEFICIENCIES OF THE PAST BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE AS OF RIGHT NOW, THE PROCESS IS WORKING JUST FINE.

ALSO, FEBRUARY 20. PUBLIX AT TAYLOR CREEK IS GOING TO HAVE A GRAND OPENING.

SO I DO BELIEVE BASED ON WHAT THE BUILDING OFFICIAL TOLD ME IT'S THE BEST DOGGONE LOOKING PUBLIX IN THE AREA. SO WE SHOULD ALL BE PROUD ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN HERE ON

FEBRUARY 20. WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. >> PEOPLE ARE VERY, VERY

ANXIOUS FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. >> THERE'S GOING TO BE ALIGNED. I THINK COMMISSIONER PERRONE WILL BE THERE AT 7:00 A.M., THE FIRST GUY THERE. SOMETHING I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT. FEBRUARY 24 WE WILL HAVE A SOFT OPENING OF THE STUDENT PERKS PROGRAM RIGHT HERE IN THE LOBBY OF CITY HALL. THE CITY PERKS PROGRAM IS A STUDENT RUN COFFEE CART AND IT PROVIDES WORK SKILLS, OPPORTUNITY FOR ST. LUCIE COUNTY SCHOOLS EXCEPTIONAL STUDENT EDUCATION STUDENTS. THE GOAL OF THE COFFEE SHOP IS TO SUPPORT STUDENTS IN THEIR EFFORTS THROUGH FINDING THE SKILLS THAT WILL AID THEM AS THEY TRANSFER FROM TWO COMPETITIVE EMPLOYMENT AFTER HIGH SCHOOL.

THESE ESE STUDENTS ARE FROM FT. PIERCE CENTRAL AND FORT PIERCE WESTWARD ACADEMY AND THEY WILL BE IN OUR LOBBY EVERY MONDAY AFTER FEBRUARY 24 AT 8:30 A.M. AND I WILL DEFINITELY BE THERE.

I SEE MY MAN WILL BE THERE. WE ARE GOING TO DEFINITELY HAVE A GOOD TIME INTERACTING WITH THE STUDENTS. THEY WILL HAVE COFFEE, MUFFINS, AND BAGELS.

TRY MY BEST >> THAT'S BEEN A BIG HIT AT THE COUNTY.

THE FEBRUARY 25 ANOTHER HUGE EVENT IS HAPPENING. IT'S THE STATE OF THE CITY, THE MAYOR LINDA HUDSON WILL BE GIVEN THE STATE OF THE CITY ADDRESS TO HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO ATTEND AND IT IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO.

>> WE KICK OFF THE CITIZENS ECONOMY. I HAVE SIGNED UP AND THEY WILL BEGIN RIGHT HERE IN THESE CHAMBERS BEING EDUCATED ON THE INNER WORKINGS OF FT. PIERCE GOVERNMENT. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO TELL YOU THE UPDATE AS OF TODAY.

[16. COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION]

>> NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONS. >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO START?

>> JUST BRIEFLY, I ASKED THE CITY MANAGER EARLIER, BUT PUBLIC BEEN ASKING ABOUT ANY TYPE OF UPDATE WITH OUR ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY ON SAVANNAH ROAD.

I KNOW I TOURED THE FACILITY SEVERAL WEEKS AGO AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS A TEMPORARY SITUATION WITH THE COUNTY AND I NOTE THAT THE COUNTY NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED IN HELPING MOVE FORWARD. I JUST THOUGHT IF I GET A FEW WORDS FROM THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT WE ANTICIPATED THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

>> I'M GOING TO ECHO THAT BEFORE YOU SAY IT. TALK TO ME ABOUT THIS AS BEING CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT'S UP AND COMING AND WHAT DO WE HAVE PLANNED.

SO THEY ARE OUR PARTNER.O IS PSL FOR A LITTLE WHILE LONGER. >> IT'S BEEN AT STAFF LEVEL.

THAT'S WHY WE ARE ALL KIND OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. THE PUBLIC AFTER, THEIR RESPONSE IS THEY WANT TO HELP OUT AND BE A PART OF IT AND WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING KIND OF ON HOLD AND THERE'S A REASON FOR IT. OUR CITY MANAGER IS GOING TO

TELL US WHY. >> AS I BEGAN TO SPEAK BACK THERE IN THE GREEN ROOM LISTENING AND HOPEFULLY SHE DOES COME THIS WAY. CITY STAFF WILL CONTINUE.

WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR CURRENT ASSIGNMENT TO NEGOTIATE WITH ST. LUCIE COUNTY REGARDING A PARTNERSHIP AT THE SAVANNAH ROAD LOCATION. THAT HAS NOT ãTHERE SHE IS.

THAT IS NOT DIMINISHED. WE STILL HAVE THAT. WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT PORT ST.

LUCIE IS DROPPING THEIR OFFICIAL WITHDRAWAL FROM THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT WAS

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SIGNED IN 2019. BUT NOW ãIF YOU DON'T MIND, I'D LIKE TO TURN THIS OVER TO

THE ILLUSTRIOUS PEGGY. >> TAKE IT WHERE MR. MIMS LEFT OFF.

>> WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IS WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ON DEVELOPING THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. I MET WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COUNTY ON THURSDAY.

WE SEE A BRIEF DISCUSSION ON SOME OF INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. THEY SAID I WOULD HAVE THE REQUESTED ITEMS IN HAND TODAY BUT I DIDN'T GET THEM THE HOLIDAY I'M NOT SURPRISED.

HOPEFULLY SOMETIME WITHIN THE NEXT TWO I SHOULD RECEIVE FROM THE COUNTY THEIR WISH LIST OF ITEMS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. I ALSO HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED TOMORROW WITH PURCHASING AND PUBLIC WORKS AND MYSELF SO WE CAN PUT A PLAN TOGETHER.

AS SOON AS THAT AGREEMENT IS DRAFTED WE ARE READY TO GO WITH WHATEVER BID PROCESSES WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD. SO WE ARE MOVING FORWARD. WE ARE IN THE PLANNING STAGES, SO GETTING ME WITH PURCHASING TOGETHER TOMORROW IS IMPORTANT SO WE ARE READY TO GO WHEN THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT IS COMPLETED. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BEFORE THE FIRST MEETING IN MARCH. THAT MIGHT BE A LOFTY GOAL, BUT THAT IS THE GOAL. AND I HAVE RELATED TO THE COUNTY ã

>> AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE NO HICCUPS WITH THE COUNTY? > NOT THAT I AM AWARE OF.

>> AND DO YOU THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ASSISTANCE OF ã FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE IN TERMS

OF THOSE SAVANNAH ROAD FACILITY AT ALL? >> YES, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING AS PART OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. TO BE A FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE.

WE ARE LOOKING FOR I WANT TO SAY A SHORT-TERM/LONG-TERM AGREEMENT SO THERE WILL BE A PERIOD OF TIME WITH SEVERAL RENEWALS SOLD WILL BE A LONG-TERM AGREEMENT AT THE END.

AND IT SHOULD BE OKAY. LIKE I SAID, I HAVE MET WITH THEM.

THEY DO ANTICIPATE BEING ABLE TO KEEP THE TEMPORARY SHELTER OPEN A LITTLE WHILE LONGER SO THAT WE CAN DO THAT. WE ARE NOT UNDER THE ABSOLUTE DEADLINE OF THE 31ST.

WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME TO PLAY WITH ON TOP OF THAT >> AND THAT'S THE SECOND

QUESTION, DO WE HAVE A DATE CERTAIN ON THE EXTENSION? >> I WILL KNOW MORE WHEN I GET THAT LIST. I HAVE A DISCUSSION ITEM, WHAT WAS DISCUSSED BUT UNTIL I GET THAT OFFICIALLY FROM THE COUNTY, I CAN JUST TELL YOU THAT IT WILL GO LONGER.

SO WE WILL HAVE TO PACK UP AND BE OUT >> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE TALK ABOUT THIS AS WE GO FORWARD. FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY WANT TO HELP OUT ANYONE TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. THIS ISN'T OVER AND WE DO HAVE THE BEST OPPORTUNITY FOR A FACILITY AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE COUNTY.

WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THEY ARE THE ONLY SHOW IN TOWN RIGHT NOW.

FUNDING IS GOING TO BE GOING THERE. THEY ARE COLLECTING AND THEY ARE PRETTY THINGS AND THEY GOT A FULL PLEDGE A SHELTER, EVEN WITH THE VOLUNTEERS THE MONEY IS GOING TO GO ELSEWHERE. WE WANT TO KEEP THIS THING AND KEEP THE POLLUTION FORMED LIKE THE COMMISSIONER WAS SAYING AND MOVE IT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE RELYING ON A LOT OF MONEY IN TERMS OF CHARITY AND DONATIONS. THAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR. IF THEY SPEND THEIR MONEY OVER THERE WE WILL BE LEFT IN THE COLD. LET'S KEEP THAT IN MIND.E NEED TO MOVE THIS AS FAST AS

POSSIBLE. >> SO THE SECOND PART ãAND THANK YOU FOR THAT ãIF YOU HEAR THE THEMES THAT KEEP GOING ON THE TIME, ANIMAL CONTROL SERVICES, WE TALKED ABOUT PORTS, ROADWAYS, PARKS. IT'S ALL ABOUT A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COUNTY.

THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT ãAND THAT'S JUST A SHORT LIST.

THERE'S MANY THINGS WE NEED TO DO. MUCH LIKE YOU SAID, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, ABOUT WHAT YOU HEARD FROM COMMISSIONERS AT THE COUNTY LEVEL. STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH ONE HIM KNOW THAT EVERYBODY IS SINGING OUT SO WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. AND SO MANY EFFORT WE CAN, NICK, YOU HAD A GOOD IDEA ABOUT PUTTING A WORKSHOP TOGETHER AND SHARING SOME IDEAS AND GOING FORWARD WITH THAT.

I THINK IT WILL HELP US DO THIS A LITTLE BIT CLEANER RATHER THAN WHAT APPEARS TO BE DONE NOW. SINCE STAFF OVER THERE AND TELL THEM WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE GOING TO BE. BECAUSE YOU ARE ABLE TO DO THAT A LITTLE CLEANER.

>> AND BECAUSE WE ARE OUT TALKING WITH COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AS WELL AS OTHER

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PEOPLE AND WE NEED TO KNOW ãWE NEED TO BE KEPT UP TO DATE. >> WE DON'T HAVE TO AGREE BUT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE PLAN. I'M GOOD WITH THAT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> ARE YOU DONE? >> COMMISSIONER SESSIONS?

>> JUST ECHOING WHAT HE IS SAYING ABOUT THE COUNTY. AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. I WANT TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND COLLABORATE WITH THEM IN TERMS OF A POTENTIAL IMPACT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BY THE SAME TOKEN, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY IN THE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, IT JUST DOESN'T APPEAR THAT SO MANY RESTRICTIONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE BECAUSE IT'S GROWING ALL OUT OF PROPORTION. I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO BE, BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE STARTED TO MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, WE HAVE STAFF COMING IN FROM THE COUNTY. WATCHING, SO TO SPEAK, WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, SO BE IT. BUT AGAIN, I DON'T MIND WORKING WITH THEM, AND WE HAVE TO DISCUSS AND IT HAS AN IMPACT ON FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, ROADS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BUT JUST DON'T HINDER ME AS A SONGWRITER SAYS IN THE OLD GOSPEL BECAUSE I'VE GOT POLICE OFFICERS, I'VE GOT AN ORGANIZATION HERE WHERE OUR POLICE OFFICERS ARE LEAVING LEFT AND RIGHT. WE TRAIN THEM, THEY DON'T GET SALARIES COMPATIBLE TO OTHER CITIES AND IT'S JUST OVER AND OVER AND OVER ROUTINE BACK AND FORTH. WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE. ALMOST TO THE MAX WITH OUR TAXES IN TERMS OF AD VALOREM TAXES AND WE CAN'T GO MUCH FURTHER.

ALL THE PRESSURE WILL COME ON US SO WE HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS TO MOVE FORWARD AND FIND AN ALTERNATE MEANS OF RESOURCES SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO MAKE THIS CITY OR MAKE SURE THIS CITY THRIVES FINANCIALLY. SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, TO COME IN HERE THIS EVENING AND SEE ABOUT FOUR DEVELOPERS COME BEFORE THE END WHAT CAME OUT OF THEIR MOUTH MORE THAN ANYTHING WAS WHAT THE COUNTY WAS ASKING. BUT THE COUNTY IS CONCERNED ABOUT.

SO BE IT. I'M A CITY COMMISSIONER AND I'M GOING TO DO ALL I CAN TO MAKE IT A REALITY SO THAT WE CAN START GETTING SOME MONEY IN THIS CITY.THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER. >> AS I SIT HERE AND CONTEMPLATE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY, I HAVE A GOOD RAPPORT WITH THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE VESTED BY ANY DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE BECAUSE WE ARE CITY COMMISSIONERS AS COMMISSIONER SESSIONS SAID. WE GROW. WE PARTNER WITH THE COUNTY, BUT I WANT TO KNOW, FOR THE RECORD WHY DID PORT ST. LUCIE BREAKAWAY FROM THIS COUNTYWIDE PROBLEM? BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BRING ANIMALS TO THE SHELTER HERE. BECAUSE WE DON'T EVER TURN AROUND. MR. MIMS IS PORT ST. LUCIE STILL ALLOWED TO BRING THEIR ANIMALS TO ST. LUCIE COUNTY WAS FOR A TEMPORARY SHELTER ON INDUSTRIAL ROAD NORTH OF THE CITY.

I DO BELIEVE THAT WHATEVER ANIMAL IS COLLECTED BY THOSE ENTITIES CAN BE BROUGHT TO THAT

FACILITY. >> FOR THE RECORD, WHY DID PORT ST. LUCIE BREAKAWAY FROM THAT

THREESOME THAT REACT? >> PORT ST. LUCIE DID NOT CONTACT ME, SIR, AND TELL ME WHY, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A COMMISSION CONTACTED YOU ALL.

SO ã >> NOT AHEAD OF TIME. AFTERWARDS, BUT NOT AHEAD OF

TIME. >> OKAY. AGAIN, I WOULD JUST SAY BEWARE

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OF THE COUNTY. THE COUNTY HAS NO ãMORE INTEREST IN ST. LUCIE THAN THEY DO IN ST. PETER'S. WE ARE STILL THE COUNTY SEAT. THEY HAVEN'T TAKEN AWAY FROM US

YET >> YES, SIR. >> OKAY.

THEY WERE. THAT'S MY THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT. YOU ASKED ME TO HAVE SOMETHING

ELSE, >> YES. >> I WANTED TO TALK AGAIN ABOUT JENKINS ROAD. I THINK WAY ãTHAT IS A BLESSING IN DISGUISE FOR THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE BUT THAT'S ONLY NORTHERN PART OF JENKINS ROAD.

THE SOUTHERN PART OF JENKINS ROAD REACHES GAVE THIS K-8 SCHOOL TO GO AHEAD AND NOW AM UNDERSTANDING THERE'S SOME I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE CAN WITH OUR DISAGREEMENT ON LINCOLN ROAD CORRIDOR.

AND I DON'T WANT THE CITY WANT TO MAKE THIS CITY BETTER AND CAMPGROUND. I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO HAVE A PROBLEM. I WANTED TO BE WORKED OUT. HOWEVER.

THAT'S IT. >> OKAY. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

>> YES, MA'AM. I SAW A BUNCH OF GREAT THINGS HAPPENING HERE IN THE LAST WEEK. ONE WAS MOORE'S CREEK CLEANUP. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT OR NOT, BUT WORK INCLUDED. AND MOORE'S CREEK ENTRANCE AND JIM FROM ST. LUCIE COUNTY WORKS IN PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. I HAVE TO SAY THANK YOU AND ALL THE VOLUNTEERS SPECIFICALLY. THE RECENTLY INSTALLED OYSTER MODULES.

REMOVE ROCKS AND DEBRIS FROM THE OYSTER MODULES. LET'S SEE.

A LOT OF TRASH WAS REMOVED. WATCHING THE FLORIDA FISH AND WILDLIFE COMMISSION.

THEY WERE WORKING ON SEVENTH STREET. THE WATER LETTUCE WAS HARVESTED BY THESE FOLKS. TAKE BRASS SURVIVOR WAS CONFIRMED.

MY POINT IS MOORE'S CREEK EFFORT AND THE CLEANING OF SURFACE WATERS IN THE CITY OF FT. PIERCE IS SUCCESSFUL. AND WE ARE DOING A GOOD JOB RIGHT NOW THAT MAINTAINING THAT AND CONTINUING THE EFFORT, AND WE HAVE A GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS THAT CONTINUE TO COME OUT AND THEY ARE DEDICATED AND THEY JUST COME EVERY TIME. IF THERE'S AN ANNOUNCEMENT, HERE THEY ARE. I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR TO THE GROUP.

AS I ANNOUNCED BEFORE THE SOUTH BEACH ASSOCIATION DID MEET AND WE DID GET A REPORT FROM MS. KIM DELANEY AND DALE MADISON WHO WAS THERE AND THEY TALKED ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR DOWNTOWN AND THEY TALKED ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, AND IT WAS NEAT TO HEAR THE QUESTIONS AFTERWARD AND TALKED TO THE FOLKS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T REALIZE THE SCALE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING AND THEY WERE SURPRISED AND THEY WERE ENCOURAGED BY WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR NEAT LITTLE TOWN.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE >> YOU HAVE QUESTIONS BUT YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ASK

QUESTIONS DURING THE MEETING. >> OF COURSE NOT. >> YOU CAN DO IT AFTER THE

MEETING. >> IS VERY SUCCESSFUL AND IT MOVED ALONG QUITE QUICKLY, I

THOUGHT. >> SO I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY, I APPRECIATE MR. MIMS TALKING ABOUT THE STATE OF THE CITY WHICH IS TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 5 AT 6:00 P.M. AT THE SUNRISE THEATER. AND THIS FRIDAY IS COFFEE WITH THE MAYOR.

THE SPONSORS ARE ANIMAL EMERGENCY AND REFERRAL CENTER. KIP AND RON ONE.

WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT ANIMALS AGAIN AT COFFEE ITH THE MAYOR.

AND SO THAT IS ALL I HAVE. AND SO I'D LIKE TO ADJOURN, BUT IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING ADJOURNMENT I WOULD LIKE FOR EVERYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS TO MOVE OUT AND WE ARE GOING TO BE TURNING OUT THE LIGHTS AND IT ALLOWS PEOPLE IN THE DAIS TO COLLECTIVE THINGS IF ANYBODY WANT TO TA

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