[8. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING PUBLIC HEARINGS Any person who wishes to comment on an agenda item which is not under Public Hearings on the Agenda may be heard at this time and must sign up to speak in advance. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

AND APPRECIATION OF THE FORT PIERCE TO POLICE DEPARTMENT EFFORTS DURING THE TIME OF COVID 19. NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON AGENDA ITEMS NOT REQUIRING PUBLIC HEARING.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE WHO SIGNED UP. YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES IN WHAT IS THE NOTICE? HOW MANY SECONDS?

>> THREE SECOND. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THREE SECOND NOTICE TO WIND UP YOUR REMARKS. THE FIRST PERSON IS AL BACHER.

DO YOU WANT THEM TO SIGN IN, MS. COX?

>> PLEASE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: SIGN IN AND GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>> AL BACHER, POLICE BENEVOLENT ASSOCIATION. DAYTONA BEACH, FLORIDA.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU, SIR.

>> I'M HERE TODAY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE CONCERNING THE POLICE OFFICERS.

DEFINE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN THAT SERVE THIS COMMUNITY. ABOUT 25 PERCENT OF THE FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT LIVES IN FORT PIERCE SO THEY ARE LOCAL CITIZENS AS WELL AS POLICE OFFICERS. THERE'S A LOT OF CONTROVERSY TODAY ABOUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

DIALOGUE BETWEEN THE PEOPLE THAT RUN THE CITY AND THE POLICE CHIEF IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR IN KEEPING THE COMMUNITY SAFE.

WE DO NOT NEED A LOT OF CHANGES FOR WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE. BODY CAMERAS, FOR INSTANCE, THE BODY CAMERA POLICY IS VERY STRICT. IT'S VERY CLEAR. AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT'S BEING ASKED IN A POSSIBLE LEGISLATION. ALL THE ITEMS I WANT TO BE COVERED ARE ALREADY COVERED.

LEGISLATING CRIMINAL OFFENSE FOR NOT UPLOADING OR DOWNLOADING A BODY CAMERA IS TOTALLY CONTRARY TO GOOD AND EFFECTIVE POLICE WORK. IT'S THERE. IT CANNOT BE DESTROYED.

THE BODY CAMERA FOOTAGE IS ALWAYS THERE.

BODY CAMERAS ARE UTILIZED ON A REGULAR BASIS. THEY ARE VERY STRICT CODES IN THE POLICY ABOUT HOW THEY ARE TO BE USED. THERE ARE OCCASIONS WHEN THEY WOULD NOT BE USED. I KNOW THAT IF YOU ARE IN A PARTICULAR PLACE -- FOR INSTANCE, IN A MENTAL FACILITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHERE HEPA ISSUES ARE AT ISSUE, YOU WOULD HAVE THAT HONOR YOU JUST ASSIGNED TO DETAIL. IN THE DETAIL YOU WOULD NOT UTILIZE THAT. IF YOU'RE TAKING ENFORCEMENT ACTION OF ANY KIND THE BODY CAMERAS USE. THE BODY CAMERA IS REQUIRED TO BE UPLOADED INTO THE SYSTEM, INTO THE CLOUD SO THAT INFORMATION IS THERE. SUPERVISORS REGULARLY REVIEW THE INFORMATION THAT IS ON THE BODY CAMERAS. THEY DO RANDOM BODY CAMERA REVIEWS AS WELL TO ENSURE THAT NOTHING INAPPROPRIATE WAS DONE. SO, THAT ISSUE SHOULD NOT BE CHANGED. FLORIDA APA REPRESENTS OVER 32,000 POLICE OFFICERS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. THERE IS NO AGENCY THAT HAS LEGISLATION REQUIRING A MISDEMEANOR CRIME OFFENSE.

THERE SHOULD BE ONE HERE. I THINK THAT THE OTHER PART OF THIS, OFFICERS HAVE DEDICATED THEMSELVES TO BEING HERE. 25 PERCENT LIVE HERE ANYWAY. THE REST ARE STAYING BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE HERE. THEY VALUE THE COMMUNITY. AND THAT VALUE HAS IMPORTANT -- IMPORTANCE TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. THIS IS A PLACE WHERE TOURISTS WANT TO COME. THE ADVERTISEMENT SAY BEAUTIFUL FORT PIERCE. COME ON DOWN.

THEY DON'T WANT TO COME DOWN AND SEE CIVIL UNREST. IT'S NOT NECESSARY.

DIALOGUE BETWEEN THIS COMMISSION AND THE POLICE COMMISSIONER CAN RESOLVE THE

ISSUES. >>MAYOR HUDSON: SIR. THANK YOU

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VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU, SIR.

SHIRLEY BRINGS. >> GOOD EVENING. LET'S START BY SAYING I'M A CONCERNED CITIZEN.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD FOR ME, PLEASE.

>> APOLOGIZE. SHIRLEY BREACHES 661 SW. PRADO AVENUE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. LET'S START BY SAYING ON A CONCERNED CITIZEN REGARDING OUR POLICE OFFICERS. ALMOST DAILY EXPERIENCE BEING SPIT AT, VOMITED HIM KICKED AND/OR SCRATCHED, SLAPPED AND/OR PUNCHED. THEY RUN WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT IS WAITING AROUND THE BUSH FOR THE -- OR THE CORNER. THEY PULL OVER CARS WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT TO EXPECT WHEN THEY ARE WORKING UP TO IT. WHETHER THERE WILL BE A GUN OR WEAPON WAITING FOR THEM.

THEY RESPOND TO DOMESTIC CALLS WITHOUT KNOWING IF ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS HAS A WEAPON. THEY HANDLE DRUNKS, DRUG USERS WITHOUT REGARD FOR THEIR OWN IMMEDIATE SAFETY. AND THE WORST IS WORRYING IF THEY WILL BE SHOT AT.

WITH THIS BEING SAID, WHY WOULD YOU NOT TAKE CARE OF OUR POLICE OFFICERS BY GIVING THEM A SUBSTANTIAL RAISE? EVEN IF IT'S A LITTLE ONE.

OKAY. WITH RECENT EVENTS, BOTH IN OUR CITY AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY, SOME OFFICIALS ARE TRYING TO HOLD LIABILITY FOR THE ACTIONS OF ONE. DO WE BASH ALL TEACHERS BECAUSE THERE'S ONE BAD ONE? DO WE BASH ALL DOCTORS BECAUSE ONE DR. PERFORMED A BAD PROCEDURE? DO WE EUTHANIZE ALL DOGS FOR THE ACTIONS OF ONE BAD DOG? OFFICERS ARE BEING ASKED IF THEY ARE NOT THE BROTHERS KEEPER. WHILE I ASK YOU, THE FORT PIERCE CITY COMMISSION, ARE YOU NOT YOUR BROTHER'S KEEPER? ON THE MEMBERS BEING VERY IRRESPONSIBLE AND TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE CURRENT EMOTIONAL CLIMATE, TRYING TO FURTHER INCITE YOUR CITIZENS AGAINST YOUR POLICE OFFICERS ARE NOT YOUR BROTHERS KEEPER. WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT THE CHAOS CURRENTLY INVOLVING THE TOWNS AND CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO COME TO THEIR CITY? WHY WOULD YOU WANT THAT DISORDER TO COME TO THIS CITY? IT IS VERY IRRESPONSIBLE TO TRY TO INCITE YOUR CITIZENS AGAINST THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO PUT YOUR POLICE OFFICERS IN DANGER? WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO PUT YOUR CITIZENS IN DANGER. YOUR CONSEQUENCES -- YOUR CONSTITUENTS IN DANGER, NOT TO MENTION, AT THE VERY LEAST, IT WOULD END UP COSTING THE CITY MILLIONS.

NO I ASKED HIM AGAIN, ARE YOU NOT THE CITY'S KEEPER? ARE YOU NOT THE BROTHERS KEEPER?

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU, MA'AM. DON BESTER.

>>. >>MAYOR HUDSON: IF YOU WILL SIGN INFORMING, PLEASE, MR. BACHER. -- ESTHER.

AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE SIR.

>> DON BESTER 453 E. SUNNYDALE LANE PORT ST. LUCIE FLORIDA. I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE FORT PIERCE JAZZ AND BLUES SOCIETY, OF WHICH I AM PRESIDENT OF, HAVE BEEN FOR THE LAST 11 YEARS. I'M JUST ASKING FOR HELP TO HAVE A START THE MARKET AGAIN AS IT IS OUR FINANCIAL ARM. WITHOUT THAT MARKET, WE ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE IT. WE HAVE ASKED EVERYBODY ON OUR MAILING LIST TO PLAY TRY TO HELP US WITH DONATIONS. AND THAT IS GOING PRETTY WELL. I'M VERY HAPPY TO SAY THAT. AND THAT'S ALL I NEED TO SAY. I JUST NEED YOUR HELP.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU, SIR. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[9. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA]

>>MAYOR HUDSON: MISS COX, THAT IS ALL WHO SIGNED UP.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT WE MOVE ON TO ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA AND APPROVAL OF THE

AGENDA. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? IF NOT I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> YES, SIR. >> MOVED TO APPROVE.

>> AS FAR AS MOVING IN PANAMA, ANIMAL CARCASSES THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO DO SO.

>> YES. >> WE HAVE QUITE A FEW INDIVIDUALS HERE TONIGHT TO ADDRESS A PARTICULAR ITEM. WHY IT WAS PLACED THE LAST THING ON

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THE AGENDA, I DON'T KNOW. IT PUZZLES ME. AT ANY RATE FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF PROBABLY ABOUT 80 PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE HERE WOULD MAKE A REQUEST TO REMOVE THIS ITEM UP A LITTLE CLOSER -- NOT NECESSARILY -- WE MAKE A MOTION WE MOVE THIS ITEM UP AFTER THE CONSENT AGENDA AND

THAT IS ITEM. >>MAYOR HUDSON: BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING? WOULD YOU ACCEPT BEFORE -- MAKE IT ITEM 13 A?

>> YES. THAT'S GOOD. >>MAYOR HUDSON: DOES THAT WORK.

ALL RIGHT. YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT MOTION THEN?

>> I MAKE THAT MOTION THAT WE MOVE IT RIGHT AFTER 13 A. THANK YOU.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >>MAYOR HUDSON: IS.

>> SECOND. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ALREADY. THE

SO-CALLED ROLE, PLEASE. >> (ROLL CALL).

>> META MAYOR, >>MAYOR HUDSON: YES, SIR.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO SET THE AGENDA.

>> GO AHEAD. >>MAYOR HUDSON: UH-UH

(AFFIRMATIVE). >> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REST OF THE AGENDA -- WITH THE AMENDMENT.

>> SECOND. >>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY. CALL THE

ROLL, PLEASE. >> (ROLL CALL).

[11. CONSENT AGENDA]

>> WE MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: IS READY COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO PULL ANYTHING FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. IF NOT, EMILY TURGEON -- ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THERE IS A MOTION IN A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

>> (ROLL CALL) -- ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> MOVE FOR APPROVAL. >>MAYOR HUDSON: THERE IS A MOTION IN A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

>> (ROLL CALL). >> NEXT WE HAVE A PUBLIC

[a. Ordinance 20-013 reducing Business Tax Receipt fees by 5% for the next two years.]

HEARING ON ORDINANCE 20 Ã013, NORMANS OF THE CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY FORT PIERCE PLOT FLORIDA AMENDING CHAPTER 9 BUSINESS TAX SECTION 9 Ã30, FEES, TO PROVIDE FOR A FIVE PERCENT DECREASE IN BUSINESS TAX FEES FOR BUSINESSES PROFESSIONS OR OCCUPATIONS PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS THERE ANY CONFLICT THEREWITH AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THIS IS THE FIRST READING.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS OF THE STAFF ABOUT THIS?

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE WISHING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE PLEASE COME FORWARD SEE NO ONE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN DISCUSSION OR

EMOTION. >> MOVE FOR THE APPROVAL.

>> SECOND. >>MAYOR HUDSON: MOTION AND A

SECOND. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. >> (ROLL CALL).

[d. Discussion at the request of Commissioner Sessions regarding a proposed ordinance on the handling of body worn camera footage and review of police rules and procedures for purposes of reformation.]

>> OKAY. THEN WE GO TO DISCUSSION AT THE REQUEST OF COMMISSIONER SESSIONS REGARDING A REPORT ORDINANCE ON THE HANDLING OF BODY WORN CAMERA FOOTAGE AND A REVIEW OF POLICE PROCEDURES RULES AND PROCEDURES FOR PURPOSES OF REFORMATION.

>> MATTER MAYOR. >>MAYOR HUDSON: MR. SESSIONS?

>> IT APPEARS THAT BOTH OF THE BACK DOORS ARE CLOSED AND FOR SECURITY PURPOSES, WOULD LIKE TO SEE COME AS WELL AS I'M SURE THOSE OUTSIDE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN SINCE WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE OUTSIDE FOR SECURITY PURPOSES. I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF THE DOORS WERE OPENED BECAUSE PREVIOUSLY, WILL ATTEND THIS AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING, WHO ALWAYS HAD THE

DOORS OPEN. >>MAYOR HUDSON: BUT THEY HAVE

MONITORS. >> I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT

THAT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: I MEAN, THEY

HAVE VIDEO OUT THERE. P >> THEY SHOULD HAVE OBSERVATIONS OF THOSE COMING IN AND OUT. I WOULD APPRECIATE IF THOSE DOORS WERE OPEN.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: WELL, I DON'T REMEMBER THOSE DOORS EVER BEING OPEN, BUT IS THERE ANY -- OBJECTION, MR. MIMBS? ARE YOU IN A WELL HERE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: ALREADY. ANY OBJECTION FROM ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS?

>> NO, MA'AM. >>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY. LET'S

OPEN THE DOORS AND, PLEASE. >> META MAYOR.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YOU SAID. >> OBVIOUSLY THIS IS GOING TO PRESENT CONTROL ASPECTS FOR THE MEETING SO MAYBE AS FAR AS REMINDING EVERYBODY DEPARTED THE CHAMBERS AND AS FAR AS NOISES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES, IF YOU ARE IN THE FOYER, NOW THAT THE DOORS ARE OPEN YOU MIGHT AS WELL BE IN THE CHAMBERS. SO IT APPRECIATE KEEPING THE NOISE LEVEL DOWN, NO TALKING AND NO DISTURBING THE MEETING BECAUSE YOU ARE WELCOME TO OUR MEETING WE WANT YOU HERE BUT WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A QUIET CHAMBER AND NOT HAVE A MOTION

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OUTSIDE. I FEEL LIKE I AM A SCHOOL ARM BUT SORRY ABOUT THAT (LAUGHING) SO, COMMISSIONER

SESSIONS? >>COMMISSIONER SESSIONS: MIMIC.

I'M GOING DOWN. >>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY.

>>COMMISSIONER SESSIONS: I'M GOING TO PRESENT THIS FROM DOWN THERE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: OUT. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON?

>>COMMISSIONER JOHNSON: MADAME MAYOR, I THINK WE DO HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH FOLKS STANDING IN THE THRESHOLD OF THE DOOR FRAME BECAUSE OF FIRE HAZARDS BECAUSE THOSE ARE PANIC BARS. I WANT PEOPLE TO BE AWARE. THE FIRE MARSHAL HAS SPECIFIC RULES THAT THE BUILDING OFFICIALS AND HE KNOWS THE CODE BETTER THAN ME. MR. MIMBS, I DON'T KNOW IF HE NEEDS TO WEIGH IN OR NOT BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CAREFUL NOT TO BLOCK.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THAT THE DOORS PNEED TO NOT BE CROWDED. WE AR TRYING TO BE -- AS ACCOMMODATING AS WE CAN, BUT WE WANT YOU TO BE SAFE.

>> CAN STAFF TAKE CARE THAT, PLEASE?

>> MR. MIMBS IS ON HIS WAY OUT. >> (SINGING) I WAS BORN BY THE ♪ ♪ RIVER IN A LITTLE TENT. AND ♪ ♪ JUST LIKE THE RIVER I'VE ♪ ♪ BEEN -- IT'S BEEN A LONG, ♪ ♪ LONG TIME COMING. BUT I ♪ ♪ KNOW CHANGE IS GOING TO ♪ ♪ COME. YES, IT IS.

YOU WILL BEAR WITH ME AND LET ME GET SET UP HERE. THIS IS ALL NEW TO ME. I THINK WE

COULD GET IT GOING. >> I CAN ASK IT TO COME DOWN?

>> IT'S BEEN A LONG, LONG, ♪ ♪ LONG TIME COMING IN. WHAT I ♪ ♪ KNOW CHANGE IS GOING TO ♪ ♪ COME. YES, IT IS. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ BUT I'M AFRAID TO DIE. BUT ♪ ♪ IT'S BEEN A LONG, LONG, LONG ♪ ♪ TIME COMING IN. CHANGE IS ♪ ♪ GOING TO COME. OH, YES IT ♪ ♪ IS. ALL RIGHT.

>> I ALREADY HAVE IT ON THE SCREEN FOR YOU.

>> CAN EVERYBODY SEE? >> COMMISSIONER SAYS AND YOU HAVE OPENPLAY AND IT'S ALREADY IN THE SCENE.

>> YES. IT'S READY. I'M NOT IS COMPUTER AND CLIENT IS MOSTLY HAVE TO GET LITTLE HELP HERE.

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>> IT WAS ALREADY UP THERE, RIGHT.

>> YES. BUT YOU CLOSED IT. SO GO TO THE -- I THINK YOU CLOSED IT. GO TO THE -- BEGIN THE SLIDESHOW FROM THE BEGINNING ON THE VERY BOTTOM, UP A LITTLE BIT. TO YOUR LEFT. NO. LEFT.

>> LINDA, CAN YOU COME AND HELP AROUND, PLEASE? SO WE DON'T HAVE THIS CONFUSION GOING BACK AND FORTH. YOU'RE THE BEST PERSON HOUSE TO OPERATE IT. THANK YOU.

>> THERE YOU GO. >> WHY DON'T YOU STAY HERE AND DO THAT FOR ME? I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. YOU ARE A BIG HELP TO ME. I APPRECIATE IT.

>> OKAY. >> TURN THIS ONE ON.

>> YOU DON'T NEED THIS ONE. >>MAYOR HUDSON: ARE YOU READY?

>> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER. COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER, COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER? IS HE

PRESENT? >> I CAN TELL.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: HE WAS HERE. COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER, ARE YOU THERE? SPEED YOU CAN YOU HEAR

ME? >>MAYOR HUDSON: NOW WE CAN.

>> WILL TAKE A ROLL CALL. ARE YOU IN THE HOUSE?

>>COMMISSIONER JOHNSON: YES. >>MAYOR HUDSON:--

>> BEAR WITH US. COMMISSIONER PERRONE, MAYOR HUDSON, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, IN YOUR PRESTIGIOUS POSITIONS, I COME BEFORE YOU AS A COLLEAGUE OF YOURS, COMMISSIONER AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, A FRIEND. BECAUSE I SAY THE WORD, FRIEND, BECAUSE WHAT I BELIEVE IS THAT ALL OF US HAVE A COMMON GOAL. AND THAT COMMON GOAL IS TO PROTECT THE INTERESTS OF THOSE THAT WE HAVE BEEN ELECTED TO REPRESENT.

AND WHILE WE MAY HAVE OUR DIFFERENCES, AND WE MAY HAVE OUR DIFFERENCES, MATTER MAYOR, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, CORONA, ALEXANDER, REST ASSURED, THAT IF WE DO NOT ABIDE BY THAT OATH

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THAT MADAME CLERK PRESENTED US WITH, THE DATA WE WERE ELECTED AND SWORN INTO TAKE THESE PROCEDURES POSITIONS, THEN WE ARE ENEMIES AT THIS POINT.

>> I DON'T BELIEVE IN MY HEART THAT THERE'S NOBODY THAT IS IN AND ELEGANTLY. WE UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR POSITION IS WHAT OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN WE HAVE IN AMERICA, ON THE GLOBE, WE HAVE A MAJOR DILEMMA, AND THAT DILEMMA HAS NOT ONLY SURFACED ITSELF ON THE GLOBE, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA, BUT IT IS ALSO SURFACED ITSELF RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

AND WE CAN NO LONGER SIT HERE AND TURN OUR BACKS AS WE HAVE DONE SO IN THE PAST BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE IS A MOVEMENT AND THAT MOVEMENT IS IS TO ADDRESS AND RECTIFY THE PREVIOUS INJUSTICES THAT HAVE GONE ON FOR ALMOST 400 YEARS.

AND WE ARE AT A POINT IN OUR LIVES WE CAN MAKE HISTORY AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I'M GOING TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, WHILE THERE WAS SO MANY BEFORE US THAT TRY THEIR VERY BEST TO RECTIFY, IF THAT HAVE BEEN THE CASE, WE WOULD NOT BE HERE TODAY. AND WE WOULDN'T BE GOING AND TALKING ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

BUT BE THAT AS IT MAY, WE ARE GOING TO -- AT LEAST I'M GOING TO TAKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY FOR TWO NO LONGER CONTINUE IN THE SAME AMOUNT THAT IT HAS IN THE PAST. AND THAT IS, I AM OBLIGATED TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. AND I HOPE YOU JOIN ME IN MY EFFORTS, COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER, COMMISSIONER PERONA, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON AND OUR MADAME MAYOR. LINDA HUDSON.

FORT PIERCE HAD SOME RALLIES HERE LATELY. I THINK WE HAD APPROXIMATELY ABOUT FOUR RALLIES AND I WAS A PART OF TO THEM AND I WANT TO COMMEND THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT PARTOOK IN THE RALLY THAT I WAS A PART OF AND THOSE FAMILIES THAT IT WASN'T GOING TO MAKE, THERE WAS RALLIES OVER THE CITY, NOT ONLY IN FORT PIERCE, BUT IN STUART, AND IN INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, TOO. AND WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THESE RALLIES LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IS THAT THERE ONLY MATCHES PEOPLE OF MY SKIN COLOR AND MY TONE, BUT THERE WERE PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELVES. AND ALL THAT DID WAS JUST MOTIVATE ME AND INSPIRE ME BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT UNDERSTAND MY PAIN. NOT ONLY DO THEY UNDERSTAND MY PAIN, BUT THEY HAVE A WILLINGNESS TO COME ACROSS AND BE A PART OF THIS MOVEMENT.

AND AS I WATCHED THE NATION, AND AS I WATCHED THE GLOBE AND I SOLVE THESE MARCHES, I'M GOING TO BE FRANK WITH YOU, I SAW MARCHES WHERE THERE WERE MORE WHITE PEOPLE AND THERE WERE BLACK. BUT ALL THAT DOES IS LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT WE ARE ALL OF ONE ACCORD, REGARDLESS OF YOUR AGE, THE COLOR OF YOUR SKIN, WE ARE ALL ON ONE ACCORD AND WE WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WE WANT TO ERADICATE SYSTEMATIC RACISM THAT HAS EXISTED FOR YEARS. WE NOW. WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH IT. WHILE WE HAD CASES -- THROUGHOUT THE NATION, WHERE IN MINNEAPOLIS, MR. FLOYD, AND I

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SAW THAT THAT NIGHT. IN MY HOME. THE POLICE OFFICER PLACING HIS KNEE ON THE MAN'S NET WHERE HE NECK -- HE PRESSED DOWN SO TO THE POINT WITH THIS YOUNG MAN WAS SCREAMING, ASKING, I CAN'T -- INSANE, PLEASE, I CAN'T BREEZE. AND HE REACHED OUT AND HE SAW HIS MOTHER. AND WHEN HE FIRST SAID THAT I THOUGHT MAYBE SHE'S ON THE WAY BUT WHAT I LATER FOUND OUT WAS THAT HIS MOTHER HAD ALREADY GONE ON, BUT WE CAN ONLY FIND WITH THIS IN HIS HEART TO REACH OUT TO THE ONLY PERSON LIKE ME AND SO MANY OTHER PERSON -- THE ONLY PERSON IN THE TIME OF NEED THAT YOU CAN RELY UPON ANY GIVEN TIME AND THAT WAS HIS MOTHER. AND THAT REALLY HURT. IT REALLY BROUGHT TEARS TO MY EYES TO THE POINT THAT I HAD TO GO OUTSIDE AND JUST SET A LOOK UP TO HEAVEN AND PRAY TO GOD AND ASK HIM CAN YOU PLEASE, LORD, JESUS, COME AND SEE ABOUT US? BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING TIRED. WE ARE SUFFERING. AND THESE NEEDS ARE ON OUR NECK'S. WE KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.

WE JUST HAD AN INCIDENT LAST NIGHT, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT IT ALL OVER THE NEWS IN GEORGIA.

WHERE YOUNG MAN WAS SHOT IN HIS BACK AS HE WAS RUNNING FROM POLICE AND IT RESEMBLED SO MUCH THE MARKET CMS CASE. YOU FORGOT. BUT I HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN. WE HAD A YOUNG MAN THAT WAS STOPPED BY THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND IT WAS SOME QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS A LAW. AND THIS YOUNG MAN WAS APPROACHED BY TWO FORT PIERCE POLICE OFFICERS. AND HE DECIDED, FOR WHATEVER REASONS, THAT HE WANTED TO RUN. AND WHAT HE DID WAS HE RAN TO THE FIRST PLACE THAT ANYONE THAT WAS TO HIS FRIENDS THAT WERE AT AN APARTMENT, I BELIEVE, AT HOME OFF OF 19TH STREET I BELIEVE. NSC GOT OUT OF HIS AUTOMOBILE, RUNNING TO HIS FRIENDS, HE TURNED HIS BACK -- THERE'S SOME QUESTION OR SPECULATION AS TO WHETHER NADIA A CELL PHONE OR WHATEVER WAS -- HE TURNED HIS BACK AND HE RAN TO THE BACK. NSC RAN AND HE TURNED HIS BACK, WHICH I'M DOING THE RIGHT NOW, THE OFFICER PULLED OUT A GUN AND SHOT HIM. NOT IN THE FACE, BUT IN THE BACK. HE HAD NOTHING IN HIS HANDS.

THAT WOULD INDICATE THAT HE WAS A THREAT. AND AS A MATTER FACT, WHEN HE WAS FLEEING, HIS BACK WAS TURNED. JUST LIKE THE GENTLEMAN IN ATLANTA. HIS BACK WAS TURNED. MAYBE YOU CAN FIND OUT -- OR MAYBE YOU KNOW SOME JUSTIFICATION FOR SHOOTING A MAN IN THE BACK, BUT I HAVE YET TO UNDERSTAND AND REALIZE THAT.

AND REGGIE SESSIONS -- I WON'T NAME THE OTHER INDIVIDUAL -- BUT WE CAME FORWARD, AS YOU ALL REMEMBER. YOU MAY HAVE ALL FORGOTTEN. AND I SPOKE OUT. AS I'M DOING TONIGHT. WHAT I'M SAYING, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. I CAN'T TOLERATE IT ANYMORE.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH DEMARCUS'S CASE AND BECAUSE OF MY INVOLVEMENT, ALONG WITH ANOTHER GENTLEMAN -- I'M NOT GOING TO NAME HIS NAME BECAUSE I DID NOT GET HIS PERMISSION TO DO SO AND OUT OF RESPECT FOR HIM NOT GOING TO NAME HIS NAME

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-- BUT HE AND I, WE WENT OUT, WE MARCHED. WE TALKED. AND WE RAISED HELL ABOUT THAT SITUATION BECAUSE WE KNEW IT WAS IN JEST. -- IN JUST.

LO AND BEHOLD THERE WAS A GERMAN BY THE NAME OF BROOKLYN MURRAY WAS HIRED FROM TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT WAS BROUGHT OVER FROM TAMPA BY YOUR TOP ADMINISTRATOR IN MIND, TO COME AS WELL. OUR CHIEF OF POLICE. AND HE CAME BEFORE US. I'LL NEVER FORGET THAT NIGHT BECAUSE IT WAS A NIGHT THAT WE HAD 70 CAMERAS, WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE. THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST NIGHTSIDE EVER SEEN IN CITY HALL WHEN MR. MURRAY CAME FORWARD. AND HE PRESENTED HIS CASE. AND THAT NIGHT WAS A NIGHT THAT I COULDN'T SLEEP ALMOST A WEEK AFTER WHAT HE ANNOUNCED HE AND SAID. I COULDN'T SLEEP.

BECAUSE WHAT HE DID WAS HE CAME FORTH AND HE SENT A LETTER BECAUSE HE KNEW AND ANTICIPATED THAT THERE WERE HOUSE RULES THAT THE MAYOR WAS GOING TO STOP HIM IN THE IN THE MIDDLE OF HIS PRESENTATION, BUT HE RUSHED SLOWLY AS HE COULD HIS LETTER TO ADDRESS THIS COMMISSION AS IT RELATED TO COMMISSIONER REGGIE SESSIONS IN HIS MOVEMENT TOWARD TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD IN FIGHTING JUSTICES TO DEMARCUS.

I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH TIME. MR. MURRAY HAD A LOT ON HIS MIND THAT I. I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE TOO MUCH TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT ALL, BUT THERE'S A FEW THINGS I WANT TO POINT OUT ABOUT THAT LETTER. I'M GOING TO READ IT TO YOU VERBATIM.

SEVERAL WEEKS AGO A CITIZEN STOOD BEFORE THE CITY COMMISSION STATED THE FOLLOWING FACTS. WE ALL HAVE FELLOWS IN OUR FAMILIES DAUGHTERS AND SONS. HE NEVER MENTIONED CHIEF'S NAME OR HER SON'S NAME BUT SHE TOOK AND OFFENSE YOUR STATEMENTS AND UPON CONCLUSION OF THE MEETING THE CHIEF OF POLICE PUBLICLY THREATENED THE CITIZEN.

FURTHERMORE, THE CHIEF OF POLICE USURPED HER POSITION OF POWER TOOK TWO OF HER EXECUTIVE STAFF MEMBERS TO THE CITIZENS PLACE OF BUSINESS TO INTIMIDATE HIM. HE WENT ON TO SAY THIS.

IN THE MOST RECENT POLICE INVOLVED SHOOTING, THE SAME CITIZEN AND COMMISSIONER SESSIONS PUBLICLY EXPRESS THEIR DISSATISFACTION INVOLVING THE SHOOTING. I WAS DIRECTED, MR. MURRAY WAS REFERRING TO HIMSELF HE SAYS I WAS DIRECTED BY THE CHIEF OF POLICE TOGETHER AND IN ALL INFORMATION ON THE CITIZEN AND COMMISSIONER SESSIONS TO SEEK CRIMINAL CHARGES.

LORD HAVE MERCY. THAT'S THE NIGHT I COULDN'T SLEEP. FOR WHOLE WEEK BECAUSE WHAT I HAD WAS A CHIEF OF POLICE IN THE CITY FORT PIERCE ORCHESTRATING WITH HER TALK ADMINISTRATION TO SEEK CRIMINAL CHARGES. HE GOES ON TO SAY SPECIFICALLY IN HIS LETTER, THIS DIRECTIVE WAS FURTHER GALVANIZED BY DEPUTY CHIEF OF MONTREUX. WHEN HE DIRECTED AND STATED TO ME TO MAKE SURE IT'S SOMETHING TANGIBLE BECAUSE THIS CITIZEN AND COMMISSIONER SESSIONS EXPRESS THEIR CONCERNS. THE CHIEF OF POLICE USED THE POWER OF HER OFFICE IN AN ACT OF RETRIBUTION. HE GOES ON TO SAY THIS, CITY MANAGER MEMS, WHILE INVESTIGATING THE INCIDENT INVOLVING THE CHIEF OF POLICE, THREATS TOWARD THE CITIZEN, THE CHIEF OF POLICE WAS RECALLED, STATING THAT IF THE CITY MANAGER COMES AFTER HER, SHE WAS HOLDING A CORRUPTION CHARGE TO FIRE BACK AT HIM., AN ALLEGATION THAT THE CHIEF OF POLICE HAS BEEN HOLDING ONTO FOR SEVERAL MONTHS AS LEVERAGE AGAINST THE CITY MANAGER.

LADIES AND GERMAN I'M GOING TO PRESENT A COPY OF THIS LETTER AND IT'S ALREADY IN THE CLERK'S FILE AND THAT'S WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THE CLERK. YOU KNOW I CAN SIT HERE AND TALK ALL DAY LONG I CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT I HAVE DONE WHAT I SHOULD AND COULD HAVE DONE, BUT THAT YOUNG LADY OVER THERE, SHE HAS A RECORD OF IT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BELIEVE ME. SHE CAN PULL UP THE FILM WHEN MR. MURRAY CAME BEFORE US THAT NIGHT AND SHE CAN GIVE YOU A COPY OF IT,

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PERHAPS WITH A SMALL FEE, BUT SHE CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BELIEVE ANYTHING I'M SAYING. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF YOU WERE ELECTED THEN. WERE YOU HERE THEN THAT NIKE.

>> NO, SIR. >> BUT I WATCHED IT.

>> YOU SOUGHT? >> YES, SIR.

>> THAT WAS A TERRIBLE NIGHT. THAT'S A NIGHT I'LL NEVER FORGET. BUT YOU SEE, THAT'S WHAT HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST ACTIVE INDIVIDUALS IN TERMS OF TRYING TO PROCURE THE EMPLOYMENT OF THAT INDIVIDUAL. BUT AS WE SIT HERE TODAY AND AS A RESULT OF MY MOVEMENT, WHICH I CAN ASSURE YOU I WON'T STOP. AS LONG AS INJUSTICES ARE PERPETRATED AGAINST BLACK, WHITE, YOUNG, OLD, IT DOES NOT MATTER TO ME. I DON'T CARE IF IT'S THE CHIEF OF POLICE, THE SHERIFF -- MATTER FACT, THE SHERIFF DIDN'T LIKE IT, TO YOU ALL REMEMBER WHAT HE SAID. HE DIDN'T -- HE WAS UPSET, TOO, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME. BUT WHAT MATTERS TO ME IS THAT I'M GOING TO DO ALL I CAN TO PROTECT THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT I WAS ELECTED TO PROTECT CHIEF, SHERIFF, GOVERNOR, AS LONG AS I HAVE BREATH IN MY BODY, THEY CAN PLANT AND FIND WHATEVER THEY WANT, I'M GOING TO DO ALL I CAN WHILE I CAN.

WHAT I LOVE ABOUT MY CITY, THE CITY FORT PIERCE IS THIS, THIS CITY IS A DIVERSE CITY AND WHEN I SAY DIVERSE THE NUMBERS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE CITY FORT PIERCE THAT DOES NOT LIKE BLACK PEOPLE AND IF THERE ANY BLACK PEOPLE THAT DOESN'T LIKE WHITE PEOPLE KNOW ANY WHITE PEOPLE I DON'T LIKE BLACK PEOPLE YOU'RE IN THE WRONG CITY. BECAUSE GUESS WHAT? WE ALL ARE 50-50. 54 PERCENT WHITE AND 46 PERCENT MINORITY. WE ARE ONE OF THE FEW CITIES ON THE EAST COAST OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA WITH A NUMBER OF MINORITIES THAT WE HAVE. IT MAKES THE RIVIERA BEACH IN DELRAY BEACH, DAYTONA AND BROWARD COUNTY. THERE MAY BE A COUPLE MORE ON THE EAST COAST OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, WE ARE ONE OF THE FEW CITIES -- AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT THAT'S ALL ABOUT, BUT THAT'S NOT MY PROBLEM. WHAT MY PROBLEM IS YOU ALL. I DON'T HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH GIFFORD. GOD BLESS THEM. BUT WHAT I AM HERE A PART OF IS THIS CITY. EQUALITY IS A VERY VITAL PART IN OUR ROLES HERE, LADIES AND JOMA, COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER JOHNSON PERONA AND THE MAYOR. WE CAN'T AFFORD TO ISSUE OUT ANYTHING BUT WHAT IS FAIR AND JUST EVERYBODY BECAUSE IF THERE'S SOMEBODY OF THE OPPOSITE RACE OF YOURS WHEN YOU WALK IN THE GROCERY STORE, I HUNG THERE'S, WHITE, BLACK, DOESN'T MATTER.

AND I'M SURE YOU RUN INTO THE SAME THING. BUT WHAT OUR MISSION STATEMENT IS IS TO PROVIDE COMMUNITY LEADERSHIP AND QUALITY PUBLIC SERVICE IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL CITIZENS BY EMPLOYEES MOTIVATED BY PRIDE IN THEMSELVES AND THEIR WORK.

AND I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT THAT IS NOT HAPPENING. IT'S NOT HAPPENING. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SYSTEMATIC RACISM, ONE OF THE MOST DIVIDING FACTORS, ONE OF THE MOST RACIALLY DIVIDED LINES OF ECONOMIC DISPARITIES IN THE CITY FORT PIERCE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IS THE FORT PIERCE UTILITIES AUTHORITY. AND WE ALL KNOW -- WHEN I REACH OUT TO YOU TONIGHT IS TO SAY TO YOU THAT IS JUST TAKE A DIFFERENT APPROACH. I KNOW FOR MYSELF I'VE HAD AN APARTMENT AT OCEAN VILLAGE WHEN I WAS MARRIED. I HAD A YOUNG LADY -- WE WERE ENGAGED -- WE WERE DIVORCED NOW WE WERE ENGAGED AND SHE HAD AN APARTMENT IN OCEAN VILLAGE. AND I WAS PAYING THE LIGHT BILL. OVER THERE. AND I ALSO WAS PAYING THE LIGHT BILL OVER THERE ON 22ND STREET. AND THE LIGHT BILL AT OCEAN VILLAGE WAS $92 A MONTH. WHERE IS MY LIGHT BILL WAS $400 ANYWHERE FROM $400-$500 A MONTH AND MY MOTHER'S LIGHT BILL, WHICH I

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WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR PAIN, TOO. IT WAS $600-$650 A MONTH IN SHERIDAN PLAZA. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT WE HAVE GOT TO STOP. WE HAVE GOT TO LOOK INTO IT DEEPER. BECAUSE THE EXPLANATION THAT THE UTILITIES AUTHORITY IS GIVING US, THAT THE HOMES ARE NOT ECONOMICALLY IMPROVED, THAT THE HOMES DO NOT HAVE THE PROPER WIRING OR THAT THE HOMES DO NOT HAVE THE PROPER WALLS AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY THAT THE ELECTRICITY BILL IS EXTREMELY HIGH, ALMOST IN TIME AS SIZE THE BILL ON THE BEACH AND ABILITY SEVEN PART OF THE CITY. THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE SUFFERING DO NOT WANT TO HEAR THAT. AS A MATTER FACT, WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS SUBSTITUTING -- A LOT OF THEM OUT IN SHERIDAN PLAZA THANK GOD MY MOM HAS A SON THAT HE CAN GO BY HER MEDICATION BUT THERE'S A LOT THEY CAN'T EVEN AFFORD TO BUY THE MEDICATION WHEN THEY GET FINISHED PAYING THEIR LIGHT BILL. THIS IS ANOTHER FORM OF RACISM, SYSTEMATIC RACISM. IN ITS WORST FORM. AND COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER AND I HAVE SCREAMED OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. WE HAVE CRIED OUT TO ALL AND HAS BEEN GOING ON DEAF EARS.

AND I'M NOT HERE TO POINTING FINGERS AT ANYBODY TONIGHT. I'M NOT HERE TO CALL ANYBODY OUT, BUT WHAT I AM HERE IS TO ASK YOU TO LET'S DO THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. A CHANGE IS GOING TO COME. THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR. LET'S ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM AT THE FORT PIERCE UTILITIES AUTHORITY. WE PUT MEMBERS ON THE BOARD AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THINGS ARE NOT WORKING OUT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW SURE ENOUGH AS A RECOUNT OF ALL THE UTILITY BILLS AND GOING DOWN TREMENDOUSLY. BUT REST ASSURED, WHEN THINGS GET BACK UP AND RUNNING, WHICH I'M HOPING THIS WHOLE MOVEMENT DOES NOT GO IN VAIN WE ARE CONTINUED APACE WE'RE GOING, ONCE THINGS GET BACK TO NORMAL THAT BILL IS GOING TO GO SKYROCKET HI AGAIN LET'S FIND SOMEONE TO GO IN INTO THE UTILITIES AUTHORITY, A CONSULTANT FORM INVESTIGATE AND FIND OUT WHY THIS DISPARITY EXISTS. AND IT HAS EXISTED FOR YEARS. PROBABLY BEFORE MY LIFETIME. BUT WE WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. AND I'M HERE TO TRY TO APPEAL TO YOU TO LET'S MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND TRY TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

NOW, LET'S GET TO THE BUSINESS AT HAND. AND THAT IS THE BODY CAMERAS. WHAT I HAVE DONE IS I HAVE DONE MY RESEARCH. AND I'M NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND TELL YOU NOBODY ELSE HAS DONE IT BEFORE, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN BECAUSE AS FAR AS I KNOW NO ONE HAS, BUT I'VE NEVER BEEN AFRAID OF SETTING PRECEDENT AND BEING DIFFERENT FROM ANYBODY ELSE. YOU KNOW THAT'S NOT ME. AS A MATTER OF FACT THAT MOTIVATES ME WHEN THEY TELL ME NOBODY ELSE HAS DONE IT BEFORE. BUT, AS FAR AS I KNOW, IT'S NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE, NOT TO THIS EXTENT. AND LET ME TELL YOU THE REASON WHY I FIND IT INCUMBENT UPON US TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. DEMARCUS, CRAIG HILL, GEORGE FLOYD, AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON AND ON. AND, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WATCHING TV HERE LATELY, BUT IT HAS HAD TO CLOSE DOWN. AS A MATTER FACT, REGGIE SESSIONS BEING REGGIE SESSIONS WENT DOWN TO THE POLICE STATION TO TRY AND SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON. BECAUSE I WANTED TO SEE THE VIDEO, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS APPROPRIATE. I'M AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. LAST TIME I CHECKED, THE CENSUS COUNT WAS ABOUT 48,000 OF US IN WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THE CITY FORT PIERCE IS THAT I'M NOT A DISTRICT 1 CITY COMMISSIONER. WHILE I WAS

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ELECTED BY DISTRICT 1, I AM AN AT-LARGE ELECTED OFFICIAL. SO I REPRESENT THOSE ON THE BEACH AS WELL AS THOSE ON OKEECHOBEE ROAD AS WELL AS THOSE ON AVENUE Q IN MY CAPACITY. SO YOU KNOW, I WENT DOWN TO THE POLICE STATION AND I THOUGHT MAYBE I WOULD BE PRIVILEGED -- A MATTER FACT THAT SHOULD'VE BEEN UP THERE BEING QUESTIONED, TOO, BECAUSE LAST TIME I CHECKED, UNLESS THINGS CHANGE ÃMAKE HIM A CHANGE IN NOVEMBER. I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE AUGUST. THE LAST TIME I CHECKED, I WAS ONLY ROLE OF BEING AN ELECTED OFFICIAL OF DISTRICT 1 ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE. SO I STEPPED TO THE POLICE STATION AND LO AND BEHOLD, I WAS LOCKED OUT THE DOOR. LOCKED OUT THE DOOR AND, THE ISSUE IS THIS I KNEW THAT THEY WERE GOING TO SAY WHAT WE DID KNOW HE WAS THERE. AND WE COULDN'T SEE HIM. AND THAT'S WHY YOU HEARD ME SCREAM AND HOLLER LIKE I'M SCREAMING AND HOLLERING RIGHT NOW. LET ME IN. THAT WAS DONE FOR A REASON. I KNEW THIS MOMENT WAS GOING TO COME. AND THERE WAS GOING TO BE NO EXCUSE IS OFFERED WITH REGARD TO THEM NOT KNOWING I WAS THERE, NOT THAT I WAS UPSET THAT I WANTED FOR THE RECORD FOR THEM TO KNOW AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE THAT I WAS THERE. AND I SAW A GENTLEMAN WITH A GRAY SHIRT ON GIVING ORDERS BY HIS COMMAND STAFF WHEN THE OFFICER STATED TO THEM COMMISSIONER SESSIONS IS ON THE OUTSIDE, SHOULD WE LET THEM IN? THE RESPONSE WAS WHAT

COMMISSIONER? >> COMMISSIONER SESSIONS?

>> NO. NOW, WITH THAT BEING SAID, BASED ON THE HISTORY THAT I READ TO YOU AND MR. MURRAY, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER EXPECTATIONS OTHER THAN THAT? I DIDN'T BUT AGAIN, NOBODY FROM TAMPA, MIAMI, DC AND NOWHERE ELSE WILL EVER DISCOURAGE ME FROM DOING ALL I CAN WHILE I CAN FOR THE PEOPLE THAT I WAS ELECTED BY.

I DON'T CARE IF THEY WEAR A GUN, A BADGE IF IT'S GREEN OR BLUE, IT DOES NOT MATTER TO ME.

WHAT DOES MATTER TO MS. THE LIVES OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT I FELT THAT THERE WAS INFORMATION THERE THAT I NEEDED TO KNOW AS WELL AS YOU ARE BEFORE WAS DISCLOSED TO ANYONE, BUT I WAS DENIED AN OPPORTUNITY AND I WAS LOCKED OUT THE DOOR. DID THAT DISCOURAGE ME? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR INTENTIONS WERE. THEY SHOULD'VE LET ME BECAUSE WE WOULD'VE HAD THIS TO TALK ABOUT. I SHOULD HAVE BEEN RIGHT THERE AS WELL AS THE WILL. BOTH OF THESE PRESS CONFERENCES, THEY TAKE PLUS WITH THE OFFICIALS TO ACHIEVE A LOT OF THEM DO IS CALLED TRANSPARENCY. WE SHOULD BE THERE TO ANSWER TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON. WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT YOUNG MAN IN LONGWOOD. WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE. WE WEREN'T THERE. WE COULDN'T BE THERE. I WAS DENIED AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE THERE. I COULDN'T DO ANYTHING THAT DAY BUT STAND OUTSIDE. BUT WHAT I CAN DO IS PRESENT SOMETHING TO RECTIFY THE PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE. AND THAT IS MY WHOLE MISSION STATEMENT HERE THIS EVENING COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER ALONG WITH YOU ALONG WITH THE MAYOR MAYOR HUDSON. FROM THIS DAY FORWARD, YOU ALL MAY NOT HAVE ENCOUNTERED WHAT I HAD BY BEING LOCKED OUT, BUT FROM THIS DAY FORWARD WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS PUT PROCEDURE IN PLACE SUCH AS THE ONE THAT I TALKED ABOUT WITH THE UTILITIES AUTHORITY AND MAKE A DETERMINATION THAT AN INVESTIGATION GO FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN WIPE OUT THAT DISPARITY THAT HAS LIVED BEFORE I CAME INTO EXISTENCE. TO FINALLY REMOVE IT. BUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE HAS AN ISSUE AND I HAVE BEEN TELLING ALL THAT FROM DAY ONE. EVERY SINGLE THING THAT I SUGGEST TO THIS ADMINISTRATION ON THE RECORD, YOU CAN ALWAYS CHECK. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BELIEVE NOTHING.

YOU CAN ALWAYS CHECK WITH THE CLERK OVER THERE. EVERY SINGLE THING THAT I SUGGEST IN TERMS

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OF PREVENTING CRIME IN THE CITY IS DENIED BY THIS ADMINISTRATION BODY., CITIZENS AGAINST CRIME, THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. AND YOU ALL SIT THERE AND YOU GIVE HER MORE CREDIBILITY THAN ME. WHAT IT DAWNED ON YOU THAT I'VE NEVER BEEN INVITED TO HER OFFICE COME HERE I AM, ELECTED OFFICIALS REPRESENTING DISTRICT ONE THAT HAS A VAST MAJORITY THE CRIME IN THE LEGAL PROFESSION. I HEAR THE GUNSHOTS THAT YOU DON'T HEAR WHAT IT DAWNED TO THAT OF NEVER BEEN INVITED INTO THAT OFFICE AND SIT DOWN AND SHARE MY IDEAS TO TRY TO RECTIFY THESE PROBLEMS? I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT I HAVE NOT. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. AND IT'S TIME FOR IT TO COME TO AN END. CHOKEHOLD, A POSITION THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN ON BY SO MANY OFFICERS THROUGHOUT OUR NATION THAT HAS BEEN TO THE DETRIMENT OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE BROUGHT INTO CUSTODY. AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, BASED ON MY RESEARCH, WE HAVE THAT PARTICULAR ITEM PROCEDURES THAT OUR OFFICERS ARE ALLOWED TO ADMINISTER. I MAY BE WRONG, I MAY BE RIGHT. BUT IF IT IS, IT NEEDS TO GO. THERE'S NO REASON WHY A POLICE -- I TAKE THAT BACK. THE WORD THAT I WAS LAST JUDGMENT WHEN I WAS TAUGHT IT WASN'T POLICE IT WAS PEACE OFFICER. THAT'S YOUR ROLE. DWELLER POLICE OFFICERS OUT HERE TONIGHT. YOU ARE PEACE OFFICERS. NOT POLICE, BUT PEACE OFFICERS. AND I KNOW IT GETS CONFUSING TO SOMETIMES YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, BUT YOU ARE PEACE. YOU ARE TO BRING PEACE.

YOU CAN DE-ESCALATE A LOT OF THESE INCIDENTS, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT YOU GET ON THE SCENE AND YOU PROVOKE. I NOW. ONE OF THE GREATEST THINGS IN THE WORLD IS THAT FOR ME TO BE HONEST SCENE, A CRIME SCENE IN MY OLD RAGGEDY PANTS NO HAT ON AND NOBODY KNOWS THAT I'M COMMISSIONER OF THE CITY FORT PIERCE MY APPROACH AND KNOCK ON THE SHOULDER OF ONE OF MY POLICE OFFICERS AND YOU CAN SEE THEIR ATTITUDES WHEN THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND AND KNOW WHO I AM.

AND THEY TREAT ME LIKE CRAP. BECAUSE I'M ONE OF YOU. BUT AS SOON AS I IDENTIFY MYSELF YES, SIR. THE WHOLE ATTITUDE CHANGES. THAT'S HAPPENED TO ME TIME AFTER TIME AGAIN. MOST OF THESE OFFICERS KEEP IN MIND THE NO MEANS WHEN THEY SEE ME NO MATTER WHAT I HAVE ON THEY TREAT ME WITH RESPECT. BUT FOR THOSE THAT DON'T, WHEN I GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE HOW THEY TREAT YOU WITH ONE OF THE GREATEST LESSONS I COULD LEARN TO MAKE ME MORE DETERMINED THAN EVER BEFORE TO SIT HERE AND FIGHT FOR YOU AND I KNOW IT'S HAPPENING.

DE-ESCALATION TRAINING IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE GOT TO PUT IN PLACE AS IT RELATES TO A POLICY OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO ERADICATE THESE PROBLEMS AFTER HAVING BURIED I SUBMIT TO YOU IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT YOUR CHIEF MAY SAY BECAUSE SHE'S GOING TO COME UP UNTIL YOU CAN BE DONE. AS A MATTER FACT I SAW THE TELEVISION SAYING THAT IT CANNOT BE DONE. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. HE'S THERE COMMISSIONER. AND HE SHOULDN'T FEEL THAT WAY. IF THIS WAS A RACIALLY MOTIVATED, WILL GUESS WHAT, A WHITE MAN HAS THE SAME RIGHTS AS ME. -- TRYING TO DILUTE THE SITUATION BECAUSE IT WAS A WHITE PERSON. HOW DARE YOU DO THAT.

THESE ARE ALL POLICIES THAT YOU AND I HAVE THE AUTHORITY -- BECAUSE WE ARE ELECTED BY THE PUBLIC, THE INDIVIDUAL THAT CREATED THESE POLICIES, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, SHE IS AN EMPLOYEE OF -- LAST TIME I CHECKED -- -- I GUESS I HAVE SOME SAY SO BUT THAT WAS LAST TIME I HAD ANY SAY SO, THERE WAS NOTHING I SAID MADE A DIFFERENCE AROUND HERE. DE-ESCALATION TRAINING,

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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD EMBARK ON A MAKE SURE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT PRACTICES DE-ESCALATION TACTICS AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS A PART OF THEIR TRAINING. DO AWAY WITH THE CHOKEHOLD. IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT'S RELATED TO A KNEE BEING PLACED ON A PERSON'S HEAD OR NECK, OR EVEN ANYTHING THAT ALLOWS A POLICE OFFICER TO DO SO, MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE TO ERADICATE AND STOP THAT TYPE OF BEHAVIOR ON THIS POINT ON. THIRD, NOT FIRSTBORN EXECUTION POLICY. THERE IS A PLACE FOR THAT. AND IT'S NOT -- I CAN'T SAY FOR ST. LUCIE COUNTY, BUT IS NOT FOR THE BLUES AS LONG SOME AROUND HERE. RIHANNA IS A PRIME PRODUCT OF WHAT HAPPENED. WHEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, SWAT TEAM/TASK FORCE WHATEVER THEY WERE THAT NIGHT BUT STAND AND THEY DIDN'T KNOCK, AND GUESS WHAT? AN INNOCENT LIFE WAS TAKEN. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE THAT POLICY, TOO.

I DON'T KNOW. REMEMBER I CAN'T CHECK THINGS OUT AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I'M BARRED AWAY AT THE FRONT DOOR AND THE GLASS WINDOWS.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. >> BUT WHAT I CAN.

>> YES, SIR. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

>> YOU INVITED THE CHIEF AND THE MANAGER TO EXPLAIN TO YOU IN YOUR OFFICE?

>> YES, SIR. >> ABAY.

>> YES, SIR. WHAT I DO SO IS THIS, I HAVE APPROACHED THE CITY MANAGER. I'VE ASKED HIM ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS GET WITH YOUR CHIEF. I'M NOT HER ENEMY. AS A MATTER FACT, ON THE LIAISON AND I CAN BE USED FOR HER BENEFIT IF SHE ALLOWS TO ENGAGE IN A STRATEGIC PLAN SO THAT WE CAN ERADICATE THIS CRIME. MY FRIEND, MR. BROWN, HE'S EVEN APPROACHED HER. HE IS AN EMPLOYEE OF OURS YOU KNOW HE IS? WHAT EXISTS AT.

>> HE HAS EVEN APPROACHED HER. IT WAS COMMISSIONER SESSION. TALK TO HIM. GO SEE WHAT'S ON HIS MIND. I HAVEN'T SEEN HER. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SIR.

>> I THINK SO BUT YOU'VE TALKED TO HER INDIVIDUALLY AND SAID I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO ABOUT THESE ISSUES WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND UNDER HIS DIRECTION.

>> OR, IF SOMEONE TELLS YOU THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PLANT SOMETHING ON YOU AND CHARGED WITH A CRIME, (LAUGHING) I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU THAT YOU STAY FAR AWAY.

>> IF YOU FEEL IT IN YOUR -- I WANT TO BE LIKED BY YOU BUT I RELUCTANTLY APPROACHED HER THAT I HAVE CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS THIRD-PARTY THEY CAME TO ME WITH THE SAME EFFORTS TO WHICH YOU ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH BUT NO, I DID NOT APPROACH HER PERSONALLY. I'M NOT A LIE.

I'M ON THE RECORD TONIGHT. NO. AND THAT WAS THE REASON WHY. WHAT I JUST READ YOU FROM BERT MURRAY'S LETTER, PLANT SOMETHING ON HIM TO GET A CHARGE. IT'S GETTING TOO LOUD.

HE'S SPEAKING OUT AGAINST WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE MARCUS -- AND INTERPRETATION BASED ON THE

READING OF WHAT I READ. SO NO. >> OKAY.

>> DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?

>> YES. IT DID. >> YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>>MAYOR HUDSON: PROCEED. >> NOW, NUMBER FOUR, POLICE ADVISORY BOARD. YOU KNOW THIS WAS A BOARD THAT WE CREATED THAT I THOUGHT WAS GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE CITY FORT PIERCE. AND I THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD CHANGE THINGS AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE AND WE WOULD NOT HAVE THE SITUATION THAT AROSE IN LONGWOOD MEDICAL CENTER, WE WOULD NEVER HAD THE MARCUS IS SITUATION. I CAN'T SAY MUCH ABOUT GREG HILL. THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT HANDLE THAT WHICH BY THE WAY I WAS TOLD FOR THE RECORD THAT THE REASON WHY THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT WENT OUT THERE THAT NIGHT BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH OFFICERS ON DUTY WITH THE CITY TO TAKE THE CALL.. AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD. AND THAT'S A PROBLEM, TOO. INTERNAL RATE AROUND HERE. WE HAVE OFFICERS AVERAGING FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND TWO YEARS OF EXPERIENCE -- CAN YOU IMAGINE OFFICERS WITH TWO YEARS EXPERIENCE TRYING TO PATROL THE CITY AND WE CALL THE CITY LITTLE MIAMI. AND THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE TRAIN ONE OF OUR OFFICERS MIAMI FIND THEM AFTER WE PUT THE MONEY INTO IT BECAUSE WHAT THEY SAY IS THAT IF YOU CAN MAKE IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, YOU CAN MAKE IT ANYWHERE. AND THAT'S WHY THEY KEEP COMING AT US, PALM BEACH,

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SHERIFF DEPARTMENT, PORT ST. LUCIE, MIAMI, JACKSONVILLE. AS SOON AS WE TRAIN THEM IN LITTLE MIAMI GUESS WHAT? THEY GO. AND HATS OFF TO THOSE THAT HAVE STOOD BY US. FOR THIS LONG BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE MANY OUT THERE WITH THEM SO YORTY APPRECIATE YOU ALL EVEN THOUGH SOME YOU WERE LUCKY ME OUT THE DOOR THAT DANIEL WAS AT YOU PERSONALLY. I DIDN'T TAKE IT PERSONAL EITHER. I KNOW WHO'S RESPONSIBLE. BUT MY POINT IS THIS, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING. AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BELIEVE ME. YOU SEE THAT YOUNG LADY OVER THERE RIGHT THERE IT'S ON THE RECORD. I HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE STRONGEST PROPONENTS FOR RAISES IN THIS CITY WHEN IT CAME DOWN TO YOU WHILE GETTING MONEY. YOU MIGHT WANT TO MOVE HIS COVID 19 AND I UNDERSTAND YOU DON'T -- YOU WANT TO MOVE BUT I HAVE BEEN HERE ONE OF THE STRONGEST PROPONENTS OF RAISES FOR YOU AND IT'S NOT ABOUT WHAT I SAY. SHE HAS ON THE RECORD.

SO YOU CAN BELIEVE THAT IF YOU WANT, THAT I'M NOT FOR YOU, WHICH IS WHAT YOUR CHIEF WOULD HAVE YOU BELIEVE. EVERY TIME YOU CAME UP FOR RAISE REGGIE SESSIONS BACK FOR YOU TO HAVE A RAISE. THE ONE THAT WAS APPROVED, I WAS ONE OF THEM. THE STRONGEST PROPONENTS DIRECTING THE CITY MANAGER ALONG WITH THIS CITY AND THE OTHERS UP HERE I'M NOT TAKING ALL THE CREDIT. WE HAVE BEEN BEHIND YOU AND WE ARE TRYING TO FIND THE ANSWER IF IT'S ABOUT MONEY WE GOT IT, YOU GOT IT. BUT WHAT I AM SAYING TO YOU, I KNOW -- I'M NOT ANTI-POLICE.

YOUR CHIEF WOULD HAVE YOU TO BELIEVE THAT. SHE SAID -- MY FATHER WAS ONE OF THE THIRD BLACK SHERIFFS IN INDIAN RIVER COUNTY. HE GOT SHOT IN THE LINE OF DUTY WHERE HIS GUT WAS SPLIT WITH FOUR BULLETS. THEY PULLED ME OUT OF SEVENTH GRADE AND TOOK ME TO INDIAN RIVER COUNTY. WHEN I GOT THERE MY FATHER WAS ON A STRETCHER BLEEDING TO DEATH. WHEN HE DIED HE WAS TAKING 15 PILLS A DAY BECAUSE HE HAD THE FRAGMENTS OF HIS BULLET IN HIS STOMACH AND HE DIED ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. SO I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU GO THROUGH AND I HAVE BEEN THERE.

I'M NOT ANTI-POLICE BUT WHAT I AM IS ANTI-POLICE BRUTALITY. THAT'S WHAT I AM. AND IF YOU ARE A PROPONENT OF THAT, THEN YOU NEED TO GO. WE ARE NOT GOING TO TOLERATE IT. I DON'T CARE NOTHING ABOUT THIS PROCEDURE YEAR, THIS POLICE PROCEDURE YEAR, POLICY THAT NICK MIMS GAVE ME TODAY. THAT WAS FINE BY THE CHIEF. IT WAS A FINE BY ME. AS A MATTER FACT THE THING OF IT IS WHAT'S IN THE PROCEDURES WHAT EXACTLY WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR. IT'S NO DIFFERENT. IT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M ASKING THIS CITY TO CONSIDER, WHAT'S IN THAT POLICE PROCEDURE IS EXACTLY, CHIEF, WHAT I'M ASKING FOR, BUT THERE'S ONE MAJOR THING, ACCOUNTABILITY. I DON'T WANT TO SLAP ON THE SHOULDER WHEN THE TOWN WILL STOP ROLLING BECAUSE WHATEVER REASON SOMEONE TOLD HIM TO TURN IT OFF BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING. YOU CAN GIVE THEM A SLAP ON THE BACK BUT WHAT I CAN DO IS ORCHESTRATED ORDINANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS ACCOUNTABILITY IN THE FORM OF AN ORDINANCE VIOLATION. THAT WAY THEY ARE SUBJECT TO A FINE. SAME THING WE ARE. JAIL TIME.

NOW, WHAT WILL THAT DO? THAT WILL GUARANTEE, FIRST OF ALL, WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE RECORD OF THE OFFICERS HERE, AND THEIR TIMING, IT'S A GREAT TRAINING TOOL. BECAUSE THAT OFFICER HAS SOMETHING ON HIM WHERE HE UNDERSTANDS THAT HE IS BEING RECORDED. EVERY MOVE HE MAKES.

HIS BEING RECORDED. THAT'S ONE OF THE BEST TRAINING TOOLS THERE ARE. AND EVEN FOR HIS PROTECTION. NOTHING CAN BE SAID ABOUT HIS ACTIVITY BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT THERE ON CAMERA.

AND IT'S RECORDED, TOO. SO WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? AND THE ONLY THING, AGAIN, THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT SHE HAS IN HER POLICY IS THAT SHE SAYS

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THEY ARE SUBJECT TO TERMINATION. BY THE WAY, THE YOUNG MAN THAT COMMITTED THAT OFFENSE BUT THE YOUNG MAN IN LONGWOOD, HE WAS GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESIGN. HE DIDN'T HAVE HIS BODY CAMERA ON. I CAN'T DO NOTHING ABOUT THAT. BUT WHAT I CAN DO IS I CAN MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. SO THAT OFFICER WAS IN A SITUATION IN A DETAIL OR SIGNED BY THE POLICE CHIEF AND THE DUTIES WERE WHAT -- WHAT FAX DO YOU KNOW THAT I DON'T KNOW.

>> LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I KNOW TO BE A MAY BE THE CHIEF CAN TELL YOU OTHERWISE THE LATER ON I'M NOT GONNA PUT ON THE SPOT THIS EVENING BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT THIS GENTLEMAN WAS ARRESTED AND BROUGHT FROM ONE SCENE AND BROUGHT TO THE HOSPITAL BY TWO OFFICERS. ONCE HE GOT THERE, THERE WERE TWO OFFICERS THAT ARE DETAILED -- THEY WERE. BY LONGWOOD, WORKING IN CARING OUR BADGE AND UNIFORMS IN THEIR DETAIL CAPACITY. AN ON-DUTY, BUT JUST PAID BY SOMEONE ELSE OTHER THAN YOU WERE NOT. THERE WASN'T MUCH DIFFERENCE IN THEIR ROLES OTHER THAN WHO IS PAYING THEM. SO, ONCE HE GOT TO THE SCENE, -- AND THEY BROUGHT HIM HERE, THOSE TWO OFFICERS THAT WERE THERE IN DETAIL RECEIVED HIM AND THEY TOOK HIM IN A ROOM.

AND AS I COULD SEE, BASED ON THE TAPE THAT I SAW FROM THE OUTSIDE -- I COULD NOT SEE WELL I WAS LOCKED OUT THE DOOR. BUT WHAT I COULD SEE WAS THAT THE OTHER TWO OFFICERS WERE THERE IN THE SAME ROOM. I'VE SEEN THE TAPE THEN AND THERE'S NOTHING TO INDICATE OTHERWISE THAT THERE WERE ABOUT FOUR OFFICERS THERE. THERE WAS ALSO A SECURITY OFFICER FROM LONGWOOD THERE AND A STATE TROOPER. AS FAR CONCERNED ALL OF THEM NEED TO GO TO JAIL IF THEY SET THEIR MOTHER HAPPEN BUT THAT'S BEYOND WHAT I CAN DO. BECAUSE THEY'LL -- IF THEY STAY THERE AND WATCH THAT HAPPEN, THEN THEY ALL SHOULD GO TO JAIL BECAUSE WHAT THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE IS THEY SHOULD HAVE STOPPED IT. AND THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE NATION. GEORGE FLOYD AND EVERYWHERE ELSE THESE OFFICERS GET A FREE RIDE BECAUSE THEY STAND THERE AND ALLOW THIS POLICE BRUTALITY TO CONTINUE. THAT NEEDS TO COME TO A HALT. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

>> NO. BECAUSE THESE FOLKS, WHILE IN OUR UNIFORM, WERE BEING TASKED WITH CERTAIN PARAMETERS AT LONGWOOD HOSPITAL. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CASE BECAUSE HER ATTORNEYS CAN ATTORN TO US IN A FEW MINUTES, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS CLEAR THAT LONGWOOD HAS CERTAIN POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE ADDITIONALLY THAT MAY GO ABOVE AND BEYOND OUR POLICIES OR YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A CAMERA OR YOU CAN'T HAVE YOUR CELL PHONE OR -- WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE. I DON'T KNOW THE POLICY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDING OR ANOTHER FACT THAT I HAVE THAT

INFORMATION, TO. >> AS A MATTER FACT, WHAT I SUBMITS HE WAS THERE NOT IN CONFLICT WITH HAVING CAMERAS BECAUSE WHICH IS ALWAYS THERE

CAMERA. >> I SAW LONGWOOD SCAMMER.

>> YES, SIR. SO AS FAR AS THEIR PRACTICES IT IS CUSTOMARY TO FILM INCIDENT SUCH AS THAT.

>> I'M SURE -- WHICH THEIR LEGAL TEAM IS PROBABLY REVIEWED AND HAVE BEEN STRATEGICALLY PLACED IN YOU KNOW, YOU AND I KNOW WE WORK IN THE COURTHOUSE. WE KNOW HOW THEY ARE STRATEGICALLY PLACED ALL OVER, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ON THE SAME -- MY

UNDERSTANDING IS THE SAME. >> WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT IN CONFLICT OR IS IT ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANT TO POINT OUT THAT DIFFERENT? I AGREE WITH

EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING. >> I'M NOT SURE THEIR CAMERAS ARE ALLOWED TO BE ON THAT FACILITY.

>> THEY HAD TO BE ON BECAUSE WHICH IS ALWAYS THERE CAMERA.

>> NO. I'M TALKING ABOUT POLICE OFFICER CAMERA.

>> ACCORDING TO THIS PROCEDURE, IT'S POLICY THAT YOUR CHIEF SIGNED, IT INDICATES WHEN UNIFORM -- LADIES AND GENTLEMEN ÃTHERE'S ALSO THINGS, HIPAA ROLES.

>> AM AWARE THAT. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S CLEAR -- I WANT TO GET INTO THE CASE TOO MUCH, BUT .

>> WHAT THEY NORMALLY DO IS THIS, THEY REDACT THE NAMES AND FACES OF INDIVIDUALS OF IS IN VIOLATION OF THE HIPAA LAW. AND THAT'S WHAT LONGWOOD DID. AND THAT'S WHAT I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD START TO DO AS WELL. SO THERE IS NO HIPAA VIOLATIONS

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OKAY. POSSIBLY. >> THAT'S A WAY TO GET AROUND HIPAA. JUST REDACT THE PERSON'S FACE. YOU DIDN'T SEE THAT YOUNG MAN'S FACE? WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE TODAY. AND THAT'S MY WISDOM THAT WAY. I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT SO WE SHOULD START TO DO, TOO, WITH THESE BODY CAMERAS IF WE RUN UP IN A SITUATION WHERE THERE IS A HIPAA VIOLATION, IS A JUVENILE THEN GUESS WHAT WE CAN DO JUST LIKE LONGWOOD REJECTED. AS A MATTER FACT THEM LIKE YOU BROUGHT UP THE PROCEDURE LONGWOOD BECAUSE AS A MATTER OF FACT, THAT TOP SECURITY PERSON THAT OBSERVED THAT INIDENT WAS FIRED ON THE SPOT. SO LONGWOOD DID MORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE DONE. THEY FIRED HIM.. AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD FROM THE ADMINISTRATOR ANYWAY. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? IT'S DISCUSSION MORE THAN QUESTION. YES I.

>> YOU WANT TO DISCUSS IT SOME MORE?

>> NO I'M GOOD. KEEP GOING. >> ALL RIGHT. NOW, THE ORGANIZATION OF THE ADVISORY BOARD, WHAT WE HAVE IS A BOARD THAT WE HAD IN TERMS OF ELECTING OR FINDING INDIVIDUALS TO SIT ON THIS BOARD THAT WE ENTRUSTED BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE ISSUES THAT WE ARE HAVING IN OUR CITY.

WITH THE ANIMOSITY BETWEEN THE CITIZENS AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. MATTER FACT THE YOUNG LADY TO MY RIGHT BEHIND ME, REVEREND HAMBLY, THINK SHE IS ONE OF OUR APPOINTMENTS.

THE ONE BEHIND ME HERE. AND THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHERS. BUT ANY RATE LET ME TASTE SOMETHING ABOUT THIS BOARD. HOW IN THE WORLD CAN WE HAVE AN IMPARTIAL, NEUTRAL BOARD TO HAVE AN IMPACT TO MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT CONTROVERSIES BETWEEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITIZENS IF THE CHIEF IS THERE,? THAT MAKES ABOUT AS MUCH SENSE AS AN AUNT CRAWLING ON A HOT -- (INDISCERNIBLE) -- WHY IS IT THAT PERSON NEUTRAL UNBIASED PERSON -- WHENEVER SOMETHING GOES ON ABOUT HER POLICE OFFICERS SHE CAN CUT THE MEAT OFF RIGHT THERE. AND FOR THE RECORD, IT'S HAPPENED BEFORE. WHEN THINGS HAVE GOTTEN A LITTLE HOT AND THINGS STARTED BEING POINTED AT POLICE OFFICERS, TIME TO GO HOME. AND IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT WAY.

>> QUESTION? SO MY MEMBER HAS NOT SAID THAT TO ME, THAT THEY HAVE NOT GOTTEN INFORMATION WITH OTHERS TIME TO TALK ABOUT RELATIVE, SENSITIVE INFORMATION -- IF THERE'S A POINT OF NO RETURN WE CAN GO BEYOND LIKE IN THE CASE OF OUR LONGWOOD CASE OR WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT, IS THAT THE SAME SITUATION? OR DID HE JUST GET CUT OFF. I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT COMPLAINT AND I APPOINTED SOMEONE TO THAT BOARD.

>> IT'S A COMPLAINT BECAUSE OF THE PROTOCOL IN THAT INDIVIDUAL BEING IN THAT CAPACITY.

>> I UNDERSTAND. AND I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE TO SOME EXTENT BECAUSE THAT'S THE MATTER EXPERT ALSO. THE TESTIMONY WITNESS. THAT'S THE PERSON THAT KNOWS THE LAW, THAT KNOWS THE ORDINANCE AND STATE STATUTE AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT PROFESSIONAL.

>> AS A DEFENSE ATTORNEY I TEND TO DIFFER SUPERIOR TO MAN'S RIGHT THIS IS RIGHTS UNTIL HE'S PROVEN GUILTY. AND FOR SOMEONE THAT IS THE PERPETRATOR THAT BRINGS THAT PERSON FORWARD BASED ON THE EVIDENCE THAT THEY HAVE IN FRONT OF THEM TO PROSECUTE THAT INDIVIDUAL, IT'S NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THAT INDIVIDUAL TO BE THE FACT DETERMINE WHETHER THERE.

>> IN THE QUARTER LAW. >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IN

ADVISORY BOARD. >> THAT IS AN IMPARTIAL BOARD.

AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS WERE APPOINTED TO THAT BOARD TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE BASED ON THE TOTALITY OF CIRCUMSTANCES AS THEY SEE THEM TO BE VERSUS WHAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SEES THEM TO BE AND IF THE CHIEF IS A PART OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, HOW CAN SHE SIT IN THAT CAPACITY IMPARTIALLY MAKE DECISIONS? I DON'T KNOW? BUT MAYBE YOU -- MAYBE YOU KNOW.

>> NO I DON'T KNOW. BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT IT IS AN ADVISORY CAPACITY BOARD THAT IS THAT -- THAT WE EACH HAVE LESIONS ON IN MY INDIVIDUAL APPOINTEES SPEAKS TO ME ABOUT

THOSE MATTERS AFTER MEETING. >> WILL GUESS WHAT?

>> THAT'S THEIR ROLE. THAT IS THE ROLE.

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>> SO DOES YOUR ADVISOR -- DO THEY DENY ANYTHING THAT I'VE SAID WITH REGARD TO PRESIDES

OVER THE. >> I HAVE NOT ASKED THAT

SPECIFIC QUESTION. >> OKAY. BUT I CAN.

>> DO YOU THINK THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO? AGAIN, I'LL DEFER TO THE -- IT'S AN ADVISORY CAPACITY. THEY ARE GIVING US RECOMMENDATIONS AS POLICYMAKERS, RIGHT. THEY'RE GIVING US RECOMMENDATIONS. THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE TOTALITY

. >> DO AWAY WITH POLICE ADVISORY BOARD BECAUSE IT'S ONLY RECOMMENDATIONS. WE SHOULD HAVE A STRONGER BOARD. THAT IS NUMBER FIVE. THANK YOU. I LIKE THAT. I LOVE THAT IDEA BECAUSE THAT ADVISORY BOARD DOES NOT, IN ITS CAPACITY AS YOU JUST DESCRIBED IT WOULD HAVE THE BEST INTEREST OR LEASE FROM THE CITIZENS STANDPOINT, ANYTHING WITH TEETH TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND CONTRARY TO ANYTHING THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MAY RECOMMEND. SO WE NEED TO DO IS DO AWAY WITH THE ADVISORY BOARD AND DO SOMETHING LIKE THEY DID IN TAMPA, THAT'S WHERE SHE COMES FROM. THEY DON'T HAVE AN ADVISORY BOARD. WHAT'S THE NAME OF THAT BOARD THEY HAVE IN TAMPA. IT'S A LITTLE STRONGER. WE NEED TO GET THAT BOARD HERE. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED BECAUSE THIS ADVISORY BOARD NOT ONLY IS IT BEING OPERATED AND HOW IT'S BEING HANDLED, THE PROTOCOL, BUT IT DOES NOT HAVE TEETH. WHEN THESE PEOPLE SIT THERE ALL DAY LONG AND LISTEN TO THE COMPLAINTS THEY GIVE HER THE RECOMMENDATIONS, GUESS WHAT? YOU THINK IT'S BEING ADHERED TO IF IT'S AGAINST ANYTHING WITH REGARDS TO THE PRODUCTION OF THOSE OFFICERS?

>> I BELIEVE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS MAKE AN IMPACT IN THAT ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS SHOULD BE ON THE PHONE WITH YOU IN PERSON -- WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, TELLING YOU WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS IN DISCUSSION ITEMS WERE IN THAT MEETING.

>> THAT'S WHY AM TALKING TO TODAY. TO ADDRESS THAT. YOUR MEMBER MAY NOT HAVE SAID IT DO BUT I'VE BEEN TALKING. SO THAT'S.

>> MY MEMBER HAS SAID A LOT. THEY TELL ME A LOT. AND WHEN IT'S TIME TO SPEAK ABOUT THOSE THINGS IS MY JOB AS THE PERSON ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT AND TO MAKE AN IMPACT CHANGE IT IS UP TO OUR CITY MANAGER ABOUT THAT EXACT ISSUE BECAUSE HE'S THE CITY

MANAGER AS THE CEO. >> GUESS WHAT THAT'S WHAT THE PROBLEM IS. THAT SHE IS PRESIDING OVER IMPARTIAL BOARD THAT IS CONSIDERED TO BE AN

ADVISORY BOARD. >> SO WHO'S THE LIAISON, THE PROFESSIONAL EXPORTING RECOMMENDATION THAT SHOULD OVERSEE.

>> YOU AND I. >> WE DO. WE DO. AND I SUBMIT

TO YOU THAT WE DO. >> WE MAKE THE RULES AND THE REGULATIONS. I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT OTHERS DO, YOU AND I.

>> THAT WE DO THAT, DO WE NOT. >> NO WERE NOT. THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE TODAY TO TRY TO GUARANTEE THAT WE DO.

>> BUT THAT ADVISORY BOARD GIVES US THAT ABILITY TO FIND OUT THE INFORMATION, AND DIG DEEP INTO THE ISSUE AND THEN BRING THE MATTER FORWARD.

>> I AGREE 100 PERCENT. >> AND LET'S CHANGE WHAT WE DO, NOT JUST CHANGE THE BOARD BECAUSE WERE FLIPPING THINGS UPSIDE DOWN LET'S CHANGE HOW WE TAKE THE INFORMATION AND HOW WE AND ACT ACTION UPON THE INFORMATION.

>> I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT, IF, IN FACT, THAT BOARD, AGAIN, IS NOT WRITTEN OPERATE.

>> WHO'S THE PROFESSIONAL THAT OVERSEES TO ADVISE THEM OF THE STATE STATUTES AND THE LOCAL ORDINANCES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE.

>> WHENEVER THERE IS AN ISSUE THAT INVOLVES THE INTERNAL POLICY OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE BRING IN PEOPLE LIKE FDLE, INDEPENDENT OF THE AGENCY. SO WE CAN GET SOMEONE FROM INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, WE CAN GET SOMEONE FROM MARTIN COUNTY. I'LL START CALLING TOMORROW I'M SURE WE CAN BRING SOMEBODY WE CAN BRING IN 1/3 PARTY THAT IS ALWAYS YOUR CONCERN IS THAT WILL BE AN EFFICIENT FORM OF GOVERNMENT TO BRING -- IT'S A GOOD THING WHEN YOU HAVE THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE SPECIALS AMONGST ANCESTRY. SO ÃBY GIVING INFORMATION DOOR ADVISORY GROUP, SUFFICIENT THAT THEY GET EDUCATED WITH THAT INFORMATION AND THAT IS BROUGHT

BACK TO US AS A COMMISSIONED. >> THAT'S WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THE ELECTORAL PROCESS. YOU STATED YOUR VIEW AND I STATED MY. WE HAVE AN ELECTION COMING. AND THAT WILL DETERMINE YOUR FATE AS WELL AS MINE. I HOPE YOUR CONSTITUENTS AGREE WITH ME -- WITH YOU BUT IF NOT THEY'LL GET RID OF YOU AND I. YOU AND I HAVE BROUGHT TO THE RECORD AND ISSUE AND YOU'VE TAKEN A POSITION NOT TAKEN A POSITION. I HOPE YOUR CONSTITUENTS CONSIDER THAT FOR THE DETERMINATION AS TO WHO YOUR OPPONENT IS VERSUS YOU AND I'M SURE MINE WILL CONSIDER MY POSITION. SO I LIKE THE.

>> OF COURSE. >> THANK YOU. SO LIKE -- THE JURY IS STILL OUT ON THAT. MAYBE ON APRIL 19 WE'LL SEE HOW THAT GOES. ON NOVEMBER. AND

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IF YOU -- IF EITHER ONE OF US MAKE IT. SO THE JURY IS OUT ON THAT, SIR BUT WE WILL SEE SOON.

I LIKE THAT YOU GO ON RECORD AND I STATED MY POSITION. THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT I LOVE ABOUT THE REPORTER ASKED ME ABOUT THAT A WEEK AGO. HE SAID SESSIONS, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE THIS TIME THE STAFF OF WHAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS. THERE HASN'T BEEN A CHANGE. YOU KNOW WHAT I SAID TO HIM? I SAID IT'S ELECTION TIME. IF THERE'S EVER A TIME THAT YOU WANT YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO ADDRESS YOUR ISSUES AND THEY DON'T, THEN AT THE SNAP OF A BUTTON, YOU'RE GONE I'M GONE SHE'S GONE AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS GETTING ELECTED, THE PRESIDENT, WHOEVER ELSE. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE ELECTORAL PROCESS. AND THAT'S WHAT I SAID TO THAT CAMERAMAN THAT DAY. THAT'S WHAT'S SO DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS. IT'S ELECTION TIME. AND IF THERE IS EVER A TIME THAT THE PEOPLE COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE, IT'S NOW. BECAUSE WHAT THEY CAN DO IS THEY CAN MAKE SURE THAT THE PRESIDENT ON DOWN TO THE CITY COMMISSIONERS ARE REMOVED IF THESE ISSUES ON ADDRESSING THE COURT AS TO WHAT THEY FEEL IT SHOULD BE IN THEIR BEST INTEREST, NOT YOURS AND NOT MINE BUT THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE AND THAT'S WHAT I LIKE ABOUT ELECTIONS AND THAT'S WHAT I TOLD THEM. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS IT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER SESSIONS, ARE WE ABOUT TO WIND UP HERE?

>> WE MIGHT, MAYOR. IT ALL DEPENDS. IF YOU'RE IN A HURRY WE CAN GO NOW. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE, MA'AM, PEOPLE'S LIVES HAVE BEEN LOST.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING.

>> I DON'T KNOW. I'LL LET THE LORD LEAD ME. HE'S GOING TO DETERMINE THAT BECAUSE I PRAYED ABOUT THIS MATTER BEFORE I GOT HERE. SO I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. BUT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT AND COURTESY TO YOU, I REALLY DON'T KNOW UNLESS YOU TELL ME OTHERWISE WE NEED TO LEAVE, THEN I WILL CUT IT SHORT.

IF YOU ANT TO LEAVE WE CAN STOP HERE. IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO PROCEED, WE CAN MOVE ON. I'LL CALL A POINT OF ORDER WILL GO FROM THERE. THAT'S UP TO. DON'T GIVE A PROBLEM WITH ME

PROCEEDING? >>MAYOR HUDSON: I DO NOT I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO PROCEED BUT IS GETTING JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE A SPEECH INSTEAD OF A PRESENTATION. SO I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO PROCEED PLEASE.

>> MR. SEAMER AND MR. HILL, I CAN ASSURE YOU WOULD APPRECIATE EVERY SINGLE SECOND THAT I SPENT RIGHT HERE TONIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU TRYING TO CHANGE THE SYSTEMATIC RACISM.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: PROCEED. PROCEED, PLEASE.

>> THANK YOU MA'AM. I APPRECIATE IT.

>> I DO KNOW YOU GO TO CHURCH. >> DO NOT JUDGE.

>> OH, I AIN'T. I'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF PREACHING HERE TONIGHT. (LAUGHING) THEY SAY I SOUND LIKE A PREACHER. GOD KNOWS I DON'T WANT TO BE A PREACHER. AT BEEN ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE. BUT THAT'S A GOOD SIGN BECAUSE OF HIM A PREACHER THAT I KNOW I CAN GO WRONG.

THANKS BE TO GOD. I COULD HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS SOMETHING ELSE OTHER THAN A PREACHER.

THANK YOU. NOW, AT THE CONCLUSION, -- WHETHER WE TAKE ACTION AS STAKEHOLDERS AND CONSIDER SOME FORM OF A DRAFT AND SITTING DOWN AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE GO FROM HERE TO ADDRESS THE BODY CAMERA, ACTIVITY BY OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, IT'S UP TO US ELECTED OFFICIALS, NOT THE CHIEF OF POLICE THAT THE CITY MANAGER, BUT US AS THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND I AM WILLING TO SAY I WOULD LIKE TO SIT DOWN WITH EACH OF YOU AND SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH AN ORDINANCE/ POLICY TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES. WE ARE LIKE A WALKING TIME BOMB WITH THESE OFFICERS WITH NO EXPERIENCE WAITING TO EXPLODE. THEY DON'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCE OR CAPABILITY AND GOD BLESSED THEM. I PRAY FOR THEM AND I HOPE NOTHING HAPPENS. WHAT I'M SEEING GOING AROUND OUR NATION COULD EASILY BE US BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE OFFICERS, LADIES AND

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GENTLEMEN OUT THERE WITH EXPERIENCE. WITH THAT BEING SAID IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO PUT AN ORDINANCE, NOT A POLICY WHERE COULD BE A PAT ON THE BACK GO AWAY GO HOME SLEEP IT OFF, THAT'S WHAT BOSSES DO. WHAT ELECTED OFFICIALS DO IS THEY CREATE LAWS AND ORDINANCES LEGISLATIONS, TO GUARANTEE THE SAFETY OF THE WELL-BEING OF THE CONSTITUENTS THAT THEY ARE ELECTED BY. BECAUSE WHEN WE PASS THE BUCK TO THE CITY MANAGER, WHEN WE PASS THE BUCK TO NICK MEMS IT'S NOT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. IT'S OURS. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THEY ARE OUR EMPLOYEES. LAST TIME I LOOKED AT THE CHART. AND WHEN WE MAKE THAT DECISION, IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO MAKE SURE -- I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING. IT'S NOT ABOUT ME. I'M JUST THE MESSENGER. BUT THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO HAVE THE INPUT TO PARTICIPATE THEIR FEEDBACK IS VERY NECESSARY NOT ONLY JUST THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT THE PUBLIC SHOULD PARTICIPATE IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE, TO TRY TO ORCHESTRATE A DIRECTION TO CENTER CITY MANAGER TO COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, PERONA AND MAYOR HUDSON. TO CREATE A POLICY/ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR NATION, OUR GLOBE. IT'S TIME. AND THAT WILL BE DONE SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN THE FAITH AND TRUST OF OUR POLICE FORCE SO THAT THEY CAN MAINTAIN THE PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE GENERAL WHERE FEAR OF THE CITIZENS AND TO PREVENT POLICE BRUTALITY. THE ONLY WAY WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT IS TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT GUARANTEES TOTAL TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY IN THE ABSENCE OF INTERFERING WITH THEIR JOBS AND WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO. IF IT INFRINGES UPON THEIR INVESTIGATIONS, THAT IT SHOULDN'T GO DOWN THE BOOK BUT WE CAN CREATE SOMETHING THAT WILL NOT INTERFERE IN THAT BILL OF RIGHTS, THE OFFICERS BILL OF RIGHTS, GIVES HIM SO MUCH LEVERAGE NOW. IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS CREATED FOR THEIR BENEFIT, WHICH WAS, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CITIZENS THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO RESIDE OVER AND PROTECT. THAT BILL OF RIGHTS DOESN'T HAVE ANY TEETH AND IT NOT TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS THAT CONCLUDES BEFORE TONIGHT. I'M GONNA COME BACK UP THERE SO I CAN SET UP WITH YOU ALL.

ENOUGH SAID. BUT ON BEHALF OF GREG HILL, MARCUS SEAMER, AND POTENTIALLY OTHERS LIKE ME AND YOURSELVES, REGARDLESS OF SKIN COLOR, IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO DO SOMETHING TO STOP WHAT POTENTIALLY -- LET'S BE PROACTIVE INSTEAD OF REACTIVE. IT IS BEING DONE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE ENTIRE NATION. YOU LOVE FORT PIERCE JUST AS MUCH AS I DO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE HERE. BUT WE'VE GOT TO DO WITH NECESSARY. WE MAY NOT BE THE MOST POPULAR PERSON. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MAY NOT, KNOCK ON YOUR DOOR AND TELL YOU THEY HAVE A $500 CHECK WE THIS TIME AROUND BECAUSE GUESS WHAT, IT'S NOT ABOUT THAT. IT'S ABOUT THE CITIZENS, THAT WE ARE ELECTED TO REPRESENT. AND I DO NOT WANT TO OFFEND ANY OF THEM. THE RECORD SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. I'VE DONE ALL I CAN TO HELP THEM, BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET ACROSS TO YOU ALL IS THAT WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS SYSTEMIC RACISM TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. AND IT STARTS HERE. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS LOOKING DOWN UPON US YOUR PRESIDENT ANNOUNCED HE'S GOING TO RELY ON THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO ERADICATE THIS PROBLEM. AND I APPRECIATE HIM FOR SAYING THAT. IT'S IN OUR HANDS, NOT HIS. SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME. MADAM MAYOR, I APPRECIATE IT. (APPLAUSE).

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>>MAYOR HUDSON: WILL COME AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, I'M KIND OF ON OVERLOAD OF INFORMATION.

THERE ARE A LOT OF SUBJECTS COVERED, A LOT OF THINGS SAID A LOT OF THINGS THAT I -- I -- SOME DISAGREE WITH AND SOME I'M NOT SURE ABOUT WHERE THEY CAME FROM. SO WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION. WHAT IS THE COMMISSION'S PLEASURE? DO YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THIS FURTHER OR

COMMISSIONER PER OWNER. >> I AGREE. I APPLAUD YOUR EMOTION IN CONNECTION WITH THE ISSUE OF MR. SESSIONS, BUT THE AGENDA, WHEN I GOT IT, HAD NO SUPPORT OTHER THAN OUR CURRENT POLICY. I WAS LEARNING THINGS TONIGHT LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

WE WENT FAR AFIELD. AND I KNOW IT WAS COVERING A LOT OF ISSUES, ALL THE WAY -- EVEN THE UTILITIES GOT MENTIONED. AND I BELIEVE THAT THESE ARE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE IN THE FUTURE. BUT I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THIS DISCUSSION WITHOUT SAYING THIS AND THAT IS, THAT I DO NOT WANT TO GIVE CONFLICTING INFORMATION TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO HAS COME IN FRONT OF US FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS, LOOKING FOR HELP WITH EQUIPMENT, WITH PAY, WITH EVERYTHING ELSE, TRAINING, AND WE HAVE MET AS A GROUP IN OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING IN OUR WORKSHOPS AND EVERYTHING AND IT HAS BEEN A UNANIMOUS CONSENSUS FROM THIS DAIS, RIGHT HERE, THAT WE WANT TO HELP YOU. WE UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE. I DO NOT WANT YOU TO BE CONFLICTED BY THIS TONIGHT. WE ARE STILL ON BOARD AND WE ARE STILL OUT TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THE THINGS -- YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET EVERYTHING YOU WANT BUT YOU'RE GOING TO GET AT LEAST -- IT'S A START. AND I THOUGHT WE WENT FAR DOWN THE ROAD OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, ESPECIALLY.

YOU'VE ALL BEEN IN FRONT OF US. WE'VE HEARD YOU. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, THE LOUDEST VOICE ON THAT IS NOT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OF FORT PIERCE, IS THE CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY. I WISH I HAD THEIR SUPPORT IN EVERYTHING THAT I DID. THEY ARE OUT FOR YOU FOLKS AND WE HEARD THAT.

AND I JUST DON'T WANT THAT TO BE A CONFLICTING INFORMATION. IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME. I'M STILL STRAIGHT ON POINT. WE ARE GOING TO BE IN OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP YOU'RE COMING UP. MR. MEMS AND STAFF HAS DONE A GREAT JOB. WE'VE TEST THEM TO FIND MONEY. WE TEST THEM TO BE ABLE TO FIND RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO AT LEAST MAKE A SOLID START. AND YOUR POLICE CHIEF HAS LED THE CHARGE. SHE'S TALKED TO ME. SHE'S TALKED TO OTHERS. SHE'S BEEN A PART OF THIS.

SHE'S BEEN UP HERE PLAYING WITH US TO BE ABLE TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON. IT'S A PROCESS. IT'S TAKEN A LONG TIME. SO I JUST WANT THAT CLEAR. I'VE HEARD WHAT THE COMMISSIONER SESSION SAID TONIGHT AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT AS A COMMISSION. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I KNOW A LOT OF YOU ARE HERE TODAY, EVERYBODY ELSE IS ON THE ROAD, I HOPE MAKING US SAFE BUT WE ARE NOT CONFLICTED IN THAT.

WE ARE ON POINT AND KNOW THAT. THANK YOU.

>> MADAM MAYOR? >> YES, SIR. I -- I JUST WANT MY -- MY VISION OR VERSION OF WHAT'S GOING ON TONIGHT, WE -- WE HAVE CONFERENCE AGENDAS ONCE

A MONTH. >> RIGHT.

>> AND WE DISCUSSED ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. NOW, IF THE CITY FORT PIERCE CITIZENS AND CITIZENS OF ST. LUCIE COUNTY DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM, THAT WE NEED TO SEE MORE OF THE CITIZENS TAKING THOSE STATEMENTS BECAUSE THE NATION GOT A PROBLEM. SO IT'S NOT THAT WERE JUST TRYING TO PICK -- NITPICK ANYBODY, WERE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE BECAUSE IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE WHEN -- LIKE COMMISSIONER -- COMMISSIONER BECK -- MR. PERRONE SAID, IS CONFUSION. IN THE CONFUSION IS WHAT WAGS THE TAIL OR MAKES THE MOST NOISE. SO ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT IF WE NEED TO GET TOGETHER, WITH OUR CONFERENCE

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AGENDAS AND WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS BECAUSE THE CITY FORT PIERCE IS RIGHT ON THE EDGE AND WALK A CHALK LINE. AND THAT'S -- MOST EVERY CITY IS IN THE SAME PREDICAMENT.

BUT I LIT TOUCH. EARLIER, I DON'T WANT THAT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THESE OTHER CITIES TO COME TO FORT PIERCE. I WANT THAT. WE DON'T NEED THAT. AND THE THING ABOUT IT IS THAT IF WE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO BE RIGHT THERE NEXT TO LIKE A STEPCHILD. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

>> I'M SORRY GO AHEAD. >>MAYOR HUDSON: SO AS I SAID, YOU COVERED A LOT OF GROUND TONIGHT, BUT WE HAVE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT ARE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT PROTECT THE CITIZENS AND PROTECT THE OFFICERS. AND I THINK THAT THEY'VE BEEN THOUGHT THROUGH AND I ALSO THINK THAT WE HAVE STATE STATUTES THAT GOVERN SOME THINGS. WE HAVE STATE ATTORNEY THAT WE HAVE PROCEDURES THAT -- THAT ARE IN PLACE TO PROTECT EVERYBODY TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY. AND IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG, I THINK WHAT WE HAVE DONE OUR POLICE LEADERSHIP IS DONE SOMETHING QUICKLY AND SWIFTLY TO ADDRESS IT. AND SO, I DON'T MIND LOOKING AT THE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED TONIGHT, BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S IN PLACE NOW AND HOW IT WORKS BECAUSE, SHE SAID, WE ARE POLICYMAKERS. WE ARE NOT DEEP INTO POLICING. WE ARE NOT -- WE DON'T HAVE THE TRAINING THAT THEY DO. AND WE DON'T HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT THEY DO AND WE DON'T WORK WITH IT EVERY DAY. AND I RESPECT THE PROFESSIONALS. I EXPECT THEM TO TELL ME WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS WRONG I RESPECT THE PROFESSIONALS AND THEN I TAKE THAT INFORMATION TRY TO MAKE GOOD POLICY DECISION. AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WERE -- THAT WERE ON THE SCREEN I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT. AND I KNOW THAT DE-ESCALATION TRAINING HAS A HEARD OF MY POLICE DEPARTMENT I KNOW THAT FOR FACT. AND I KNOW SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE HA HAPPENED. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT -- I'M GOING TO SAY -- WITH RESPECT COMMISSIONER SESSIONS, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SAID TONIGHT WHERE YOUR OPINION, WHERE YOUR OPINION. AND SO -- AND WE ARE FIVE OF US WILL COME FROM DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES AND SO -- AND IT TAKES THREE OF US TO MAKE ANY DECISION, THREE OF US, NOT ONE OF US. MANY PEOPLE SAY OH YOU ARE THE MAYOR.

YOU'RE THE BOSS. NOT TRUE. IT TAKES THREE OF US TO MAKE ANY DECISION APPEAR. AND TO MAKE POLICY. AND SO WE MIGHT COME OUT OF FROM DIFFERENT WAYS. BUT I THINK YOU CAN BE ASSURED THAT WE WANT TO KEEP OUR CITIZENS SAFE AND THAT'S EVERY CITIZEN, EVERY CITIZEN. AND WE WANT OUR OFFICERS TO BE VALUED AND TO KNOW THAT WHAT WE WANT THEM TO GO HOME AT NIGHT SAFE TO THEIR FAMILIES. SO A LOT OF THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT ARE PUT IN PLACE ARE IN ORDER TO PROTECT EVERYBODY. WE ARE TRYING TO DO THE BEST WE CAN TO PROTECT EVERYBODY. AND I THINK -- I THINK OUR POLICE ADVISORY BOARD IS BY A POINT SHE KEEPS THE INFORMANTS HAD NO COMPLAINTS. AND I THINK WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE HAVE STAFF OF ANY COMMITTEE, ANY COMMITTEE IN THIS CITY, WHEN WE HAVE STAFF, WE LOOK TO THE STAFF FOR THE EXPERTISE. SO, IS THE PLANNING BOARD, THE PLANNING BOARD LOOKS TO JENNIFER HOFF'S MOISTURE OR EXPERTISE AND STAFF, TELL US WHAT THE ORDINANCES. TELL US WHAT HER CHOICES ARE. SO EXPERTISE IS WHAT WE LOOK TO THE PROFESSIONALS FOUR. AND SO, I'M -- I'M NOT SURE OF THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE PROBLEM, I AM WILLING TO LOOK AND LISTEN AND LEARN. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON GIVE

ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY? >>COMMISSIONER JOHNSON: AND I

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STATED MY PEACE ABOUT THE POLICE ADVISORY BEFORE AND I TAKE THAT TO HEART IN A MEANINGFUL WAY. AND IT IS THAT. IT'S AN ADVISORY. IT'S MADE UP OF CITIZENS OF THE CITY IS IMPORTANT THAT WE HEAR FROM THEM. MAYBE IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE A JOINT SESSION. WE HAD A JOINT SESSION WITH THE FPUA BOARD. WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT AND WORK THROUGH THE THINGS THAT THE COMMISSIONER WAS TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. IF THERE ARE CHANGES TO BE MADE EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED. EVERY SINGLE DAY WEEKEND SELF EVALUATE AND MAKE A CHANGE.. I WAS WATCHING -- I LOOKED AT MY WATCH EARLIER AND I HAVE A HEART MONITOR AND COMMISSIONER, I WAS MOVED IN SO MANY WAYS. I MOVED BY EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING IN SO MANY WAYS. AND IT DOESN'T MATTER WHICH SIDE BECAUSE THERE ARE NO SIDES. WE HAVE TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SELF REFLECT AND IT'S ABOUT LOVING MY NEIGHBOR. IT'S ABOUT SEEING WHAT EACH OTHER HAS WITHIN A GET THAT GREATNESS OUT OF THE OTHER INDIVIDUAL AND EXTRUDE THAT GREATNESS FROM YOURSELF AND SEE WHAT YOU CAN DO IS LOVING THAT NEIGHBOR. AND MY HEART RATE WENT UP AND IT'S BECAUSE I WAS STIRRED EMOTIONALLY. BECAUSE IT'S A TOPIC -- AND I APPRECIATE IT. I WORK FOR THE COUNTY. I WORK FOR THE COUNTY AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND WE WERE JUST GETTING REAL WITH EACH OTHER AND I SAID WHAT CAN I DO. THAT WAS MY STATEMENT. WHAT CAN I DO. AND IT'S A REAL THING.

ANOTHER COMMISSIONER MENTIONED I DON'T WANT ANY AREAS OF GRAY. I DON'T WANTED TO BE CONFUSING. WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT. HERE'S WHAT I BELIEVE IS A VOICE OF THE PEOPLE. THIS IS A LEGISLATIVE POLICY. WE TALK THE WORD POLICY, BUT WE HAVE POLICIES FOR STANDARDIZE OPERATIONS. WE HAVE POLICY THAT MR. MIMBS, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE CREATES. WE ARE LEGISLATURES. A LEGISLATIVE BOARD, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT IS FUNDAMENTAL TASK OF THIS COMMISSION TO START LEGISLATING OPERATIONAL POLICY. I BELIEVE THAT IN MY HEART. I BELIEVE THAT IT'S UP TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND ESPECIALLY THE CITY MANAGER AND FOR US TO HOLD HIM/HER ACCOUNTABLE, FOR THAT POLICY.

IT'S A POLICY AND WE DIRECT THEM. OUR JOB IS TO LEGISLATE. I DON'T KNOW IF CREATING SOMETHING BY ORDINANCES THE RADIANCE ARE. DO I HAVE TO SEARCH AND RESEARCH? YES I DO.

IS IT CUTTING-EDGE? MAYBE SO. BUT THAT'S WHERE I STAND WITH IT AND I BELIEVE EVEN THE STATEMENT, AS I REVIEWED -- THE COMMISSIONER SAID IT. THE FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICY COVERS IT ALL. AND THAT'S WHAT I HEARD. AND I AGREE WITH THAT. IT IS A GOOD POLICY. SO HOW DO WE ENACT ACTION ON THE POLICY? WHAT I THINK WHEN YOU CREATE SOMETHING THERE IS AN EQUAL AND OPPOSITE REACTION IN SOME MANNER JUST LIKE IN PHYSICS. SO IF WE START TO LEGISLATE POLICY WHAT'S THE REACTION? IS IT IF YOU'RE WORKING IN THE CITY FORT PIERCE? IF WE AS THE LEGISLATIVE POLICY MAKERS START TO ENACT THAT, DO WE CREATE BEER? DO WE CREATE FEAR IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICERS? AN ADMINISTRATION? I DON'T KNOW, BUT MY INTUITION TELLS ME YES, IT DOES CREATE THAT. THERE ARE POLICIES IN PLACE AND IT'S OUR JOB TO HOLD THOSE FOLKS IN CHARGE OF THOSE POLICIES, HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE POLICY THAT THEY TAKE THAT ACTION. SO, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BUDGET, SOON.

WE TALKED ABOUT IN PREVIOUS COMMISSION MEETINGS ABOUT WHAT CAN WE DO TO CHANGE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE CITY FORT PIERCE WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT? WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SALARIES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BENEFIT PACKAGES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE THINGS THAT OUR BUDGET MAY BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN OR WHATEVER IT IS. THE CITY MANAGER HAS SAID THAT HE HAS A FORMULA WRITTEN DOWN THAT IS GOING TO PRESENT TO US THAT HE IS NOT SEEN YET. SO I'M EXCITED TO SEE IT. AND SO I SHARE WITH EACH OF YOU THAT ARE HERE OFF SHIFT AND AFTER HOURS OR ON SHIFT, BE ENCOURAGED BECAUSE IN THE THREE AND HALF YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, IT'S

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BEING DUG INTO FOR ANY OTHER TIME AS FAR AS THE COMMISSIONER. THE WORRY ABOUT THAT PART. BUT IT'S BEING -- IT'S BEING SCRUTINIZED TO THE NTH DEGREE.

IN MY MEETINGS WITH THE CITY MANAGER, IS BEEN TALKED ABOUT IN SCRUTINIZED. AND SO I WANT YOU TO BE ENCOURAGED BY THAT. I DON'T WANT YOU TO BE DISCOURAGED FROM MY POINT OF VIEW THAT I'M GOING TO LEGISLATE YOU INTO WHAT YOUR RULES AND REGULATIONS ARE. I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. I DON'T THINK IT'S GOVERNMENT AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, THAT SURE -- THAT'S OUR DUTY. BUT DO I THINK WE SHOULD HOLD THOSE ACCOUNTABLE? I DO.

SO I SAY TO EACH ONE OF YOU, BE ENCOURAGED. I APPRECIATE YOU AND THE PUBLIC AND I APPRECIATE YOUR WORDS. YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO ONE ANOTHER TO LEARN ABOUT EACH OTHER TO LEARN ABOUT OUR EXPERIENCES AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO ENHANCE AND IMPROVE THE CITY FORT PIERCE EACH AND EVERY DAY AND IT'S BY YOU BELLMACK IS BY ME REACHING OUT COMMENTS RESERVING SHIP COMMENTS BY LOVING OUR NEIGHBOR AND IS THOSE ARE THE THINGS I SEE EVERY SINGLE DAY. WE ARE HERE

TO WORK. THANK YOU. >> MANOR MAYOR?

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YES, SIR. >> I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 20 YEARS. I UNDERSTAND. I KNOW WE DIDN'T COME HERE TONIGHT TO CREATE AN ORDINANCE. AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, WE ALL HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE SUNSHINE LAW. IT IS MY OPINION. THAT'S ALL HERE FOR. EACH OF US TO DISCUSS OUR OPINIONS BECAUSE THAT'S ONLY WAY WERE GOING TO DO IT THE RIGHT AND LEGAL WAY. I WANT TO DO THAT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GO TO JAIL. SO, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. I DIDN'T EXPECT YOU TO COME IN AND SAY LET'S ADDRESS IN WRITING ORDINANCE. BUT WILL WE HAVE TO DO WE HAVE TO START THE CONVERSATION AND TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY AND DO WHAT WE FEEL IS NECESSARY TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS. NOW COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, YOU'RE RIGHT, LEGISLATION. WE WERE ELECTED TO CREATE AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CREATE A LAW CALLED AN ORDINANCE. YOUR STATE REPS, YOUR GOVERNORS, YOUR LEGISLATION, YOUR PRESIDENT, YOUR CONGRESSMAN, FEDERAL LEGISLATION, BUT WE HAVE SOMETHING WITH TEETH TO IT CALLED AN ORDINANCE. AND A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES THAT I BROUGHT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, WHAT I'M SIMPLY SAYING IS LIKE COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER INDICATED, LET'S PUT ON A CONFERENCE AGENDA SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS THE PROPOSALS.

BUT TO SIT HERE SILENTLY AND ACT AS IF NOTHING IS GOING ON, IS THE BIGGEST MISTAKE THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY MAKE IN THIS CAPACITY.

WE LIVE HERE TONIGHT, WHERE ARE WE? ARE WE TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION? OR ARE WE CONTINUING TO TRY TO DO THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS? CAN I SUBMIT TO YOU IT'S TIME OUT FOR THAT.

TWO EACH OF YOU APPEARED TONIGHT, I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS HAS IMPACTED YOU, BUT COMMISSIONER JOHNSON, IT'S VERY EMOTIONAL TO ME. AND IT'S SO EMOTIONAL, THAT I HAVE TAKEN THE SEED OF THOSE THAT ARE OUT IN FRONT OF US AND I KNOW THEIR PAIN. AND I KNOW HOW THEY FEEL. AND I'VE SEEN WHAT'S GOING ON NATIONWIDE AND I'M GOING TO DO ALL THAT I CAN, IN MY CAPACITY TO ADDRESS IT. I CREATE THE POLICIES. YOU WERE ELECTED TO CREATE THE POLICIES AND IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THOSE POLICIES ARE ENFORCED. AND THAT'S THE LAST TIME I READ THE CHARTER, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO. NOW LET SOMEBODY CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT, THAT I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE -- THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. BY CHARTER. YEAH. FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS A RESPONSIBILITY, THE STATE GOVERNMENT HAS A RESPONSIBILITY CITY GOVERNMENT THE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT HAS A RESPONSIBILITY. YOU DO YOUR RESEARCH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT INDICATED THAT THEY'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT FOR US TO DOING CREATE THE POLICIES TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM. SO THEY'RE POINTING

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THE FINGER AT US, TOO. SO AS YOU WILL GATHER YOUR RESEARCH AND LOOK INTO IT TONIGHT AND I PLACED A LOT ON YOUR MINDS. YEAH. YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S TOO MUCH TO DIGEST TONIGHT. BUT GO BACK HOME TIME WITH THE MISSION IN MIND AND THAT IS TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. LET'S STOP ALLOWING WHAT'S GOING ON WITH OUR UTILITIES AUTHORITY TO CONTINUE. LET'S STOP ALLOWING WHAT'S GOING ON WITH OUR CITIZENS AND WHAT'S HAPPENING NATIONWIDE AND POTENTIALLY WILL HAPPEN TO US IF WE DON'T BE MORE PROACTIVE THAN REACTIVE. SO ALL I'M SUGGESTING IS LET'S PUT IT ON FOR A CONFERENCE AGENDA ITEM. YOU GET ALL THE INFORMATION. WE DIRECTOR CITY MANAGER TO COME UP WITH THE POLICY, IF THE UNION WOULD HAVE SOMEBODY THERE WITH THE BILL OF RIGHTS, LET THEM BE THERE AND IF YOU WANT HAVE SOMEBODY THERE BUT LET'S HAVE AN OPEN DISCUSSION, SUNRISE LAW ÃMAKE THE SUNRISE LAW WILL NOT ALLOW US TO DO ANYTHING BUT THAT.

BUT WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS PLACED FOR CONFERENCE AGENDA ITEM DISCUSSION STEMMING FROM THE PRESENTATION WHERE WE CAN LOOK AT ALL THESE ISSUES, HAVE THE NECESSARY PEOPLE THERE, THE FEEDBACK FROM THE CITIZENS, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT PEOPLE THERE FOR ME. NOT ME, NOT THE POLICE, BUT THE CITIZENS. THEY ARE GETTING PAID. AND I HAVE A DUTY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE PROTECTED. SO THEY ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT INDIVIDUALS IN THIS WHOLE EQUATION FOR ME.

SO, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ITEM ON A CONFERENCE AGENDA OR WE CAN DISCUSS THIS.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: AND I HEAR YOU. AND I -- I WOULD LIKE FOR OUR POLICE ADVISORY BOARD TO LOOK AT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS AND BRING -- AND GIVE US THEY ARE -- THEY CAN VET THEM. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE COMMITTEES FOR. HOW DOES -- COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>> THANK YOU. I'VE HEARD THAT IT'S BROKEN, THE BODY CAMERA IS BROKEN, BUT I DO NOT KNOW HOW IT'S BROKEN. I HAVEN'T GOT MY ARMS AROUND THAT. IF I WAS GOING TO -- AND I'M NOT COMMENTING ON YOU COMMISSIONER SESSIONS BUT IF I WANTED TO MAKE A CHANGE ON THAT, I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE IDENTIFIED WAYS THAT IS ABSOLUTELY BROKEN AND MAY BE MADE MY OWN PROPOSED ORDINANCE TONIGHT THAT WE COULD TALK ABOUT AND GET INTO THE WEEDS ON THIS BECAUSE I JUST HAVEN'T GOT MY ARMS AROUND THIS. TO ME EVERETT TO THE POLICY. WE'VE HEARD FROM FOLKS FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FROM FOLKS OUTSIDE ON THE STATE LEVEL. AND THEY SAY REALLY, WE'VE GOT ONE OF THE BEST POLICIES THAT GO ALONG WITH THIS BECAUSE WHEN YOU START MESSING WITH THINGS THAT ARE NOT BROKEN, WERE DEALING WITH A VERY RARE SET OF OPTIONS HERE.

WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY TO WASTE. IF WE HAVE A PROCESS THAT'S BROKEN THAT'S FINE. ALL I KEPT THINKING OF AND I HAVEN'T -- I DIDN'T GET THE RESEARCH, BUT I WOULD ASSUME THAT IT'S CAN BE OVER TIME FOR OFFICERS JUST TO DO DOWN ONE. IF CLOUD STORAGE WHICH I KNOW IS EXPENSIVE. BY THE TIME WE'RE DONE WITH THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE, WE HAVE JUST SPENT THE MONEY WERE GOING TO GET THE FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR PAY RAISES. AND FOR EDUCATION AND FOR EQUIPMENT. AND SO THIS IS A BALANCE -- AND YOU KNOW WHAT I'M NOT CRITICIZING YOU. THIS IS A BALANCE THAT IS NOT ONE THAT WE HAVE A MONEY TREE THAT WE SHAKE IT HARDER WE GET IT. -- I'M STILL SPEAKING. SO WHAT WE HAVE IS AN OBLIGATION TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE BARELY METER OUT OUR RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THOSE ACTUAL PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED. MORE GOOD AT THAT. IT'S THE ONES THAT I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, I STILL HAVE -- HAVE TO SAY AT THE END OF ALL THIS -- IN TWO HOURS INTO THIS, I STILL DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW BODY CAMERAS ARE NOT DOING THE JOB. HOW IS NOT THE TOOL THAT WE EXPECTED TO BE, HOW IT IS FAILING OUR FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITIZENS OF FORT PIERCE. THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO KNOW BEFORE I GO ONE STEP FURTHER. I DO WANT TO CONFERENCE AGENDA UNLESS WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED THAT.

>> CAN I SAY SOMETHING. >> IF YOU AN OPPORTUNITY LOOK

AT THE VIDEO FROM LONGWOOD? >> YES.

>> DO YOU KNOW THAT YOUR BODY CAMERAS WERE NOT ACTIVE? DO YOU KNOW THAT THOSE WERE NOT -- YOUR BODY CAMERAS THAT YOU PAID FOR THAT YOU HAVE CREATED A POLICY THAT YOU HAVE CHARGED YOUR CHIEF OF POLICE, DO YOU KNOW THAT THOSE BODY CAMERAS WERE NOT ON? AND IF YOU'RE

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GOING TO SAY THAT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, THE PROBLEM IS THEY'RE NOT TURNING THE BODY CAMERAS ON, SIR. CAN I SPEAK NO, SIR. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT.

>> RISKING THE QUESTION WAS READY ANSWER.

>> OKAY. CAN I SPEAK NOW? I GIVE YOU THAT RESPECT THAT APPRECIATE THE SAME RESPECT.

DO YOU NOT KNOW THAT THOSE BODY CAMERAS WERE NOT ON? AND THAT IS A PROBLEM THAT'S THE PROBLEM. WHAT GOOD IS IT TO HAVE A POLICY -- AND NOT HAVE A PROBLEM THE POLICY, AS A MATTER FACT I SAID WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT FROM THE POLICY, BUT PUT SOME TEETH INTO IT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IN FORCE. YOU'RE CREATING AN ARGUMENT THAT I AGREE WITH.

THAT'S NOT WASTED TIME ABOUT STUFF THAT WE AGREE ON. LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH THINGS THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. BUT WHAT YOU SAW HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT CAMERA ON THAT OFFICER. THAT CAME FROM LONGWOOD. WHEN DEMARCUS WAS SHOT. THERE WAS NOBODY CAMERA ON, SIR. THE BODY CAMERAS WERE IN THE TRUNK. THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

>> EIGHT THAT THE TRUTH. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. THEY ARE NOT ON.

>> YOU REAL BAD IF YOU DON'T THINK YOU GOT A PROBLEM.

>> WE HAVE A PROBLEM HERE, SIR.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER PERRONE WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK.

>> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE THIS IS THE TIME FOR THE COMMISSION TO TALK. I WOULD

APPRECIATE IT. >> I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I KNOW YOU WENT BACK A COUPLE OF YEARS AND WERE TALKING ABOUT POLICY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BODY CAMERAS THAT HAVE REALLY BEEN ADOPTED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AS POLICY HAS BEEN WRITTEN. I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION -- MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER THIS THAT THIS IS AT THE HOSPITAL IN A PSYCHIATRIC HOLDING CELL. AND I THINK THAT THERE IS ACTUALLY POLICY THAT SAYS THAT BODY CAMERAS CANNOT BE ON AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME. I MAY BE WRONG BUT THAT'S WHATEVER. MAYBE YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT.

>> WAS A PROBLEM THAT EVENING -- THAT MORNING WHATEVER WAS AT LONGWOOD. AND WHAT I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU IS THAT YOU GET THAT POLICE REPORT LIKE I DID. AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THE PERPETRATOR OF THOSE INCIDENTS MADE AN ANNOUNCEMENT BEFORE HE COMMENCED TO BEATING THE MAN, DO Y'ALL HAVE YOUR BODY CAMERAS ON? THAT SHOWS MALICIOUS INTENT ON HIS PART. NOW YOU GET THE RECORD AND YOU LOOK AT IT. I SUBMIT TO THE PUBLIC THEY GET THE POLICE REPORT IF THEY CAN COME AND LOOK AT IT. HE ANNOUNCED DO YOU HAVE YOUR BODY CAMERAS ON? THAT'S A

PROBLEM, SIR. >>MAYOR HUDSON: CAN I SUGGEST WE STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR -- IT'S IN THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM RIGHT NOW, CHALLENGES WERE FILED ACTUALLY AFTER THE OFFENSE. EVERYTHING WAS DONE QUITE RAPIDLY AND

QUITE JUDICIOUSLY. SO, >> FOUR MONTHS. TOO LONG.

>> AND THERE'S A PROCESS THAT GOES INTO REINVESTIGATION. AND IT HAS TO -- FOR EVERYBODY TO BE TREATED FAIRLY, THAT WOULD BE FOR ANY OF YOU TO BE TREATED FAIRLY, AND SO, I -- WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THIS COMMISSION?

>> I SUBMITTED A MOTION I GUESS I'LL PUT IN A FORMAL MOTION THAT WE HAVE THESE ITEMS DISCUSSED IN THE FORM OF A CONFERENCE AGENDA AND INSTRUCTOR CITY MANAGER AND THE ADVISOR WILL HAVE THEIR INPUT AND THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND ANYBODY THAT WE SEE NECESSARY TO HAVE INPUT. WE CAN'T LEAVE YOUR NECK THIS IF NOTHING IS WRONG. THERE IS A PROBLEM. WE HAVE A PROBLEM. NOW YOU CAN IGNORE IT IF YOU WANT, BUT EVENTUALLY, IT'S GOING TO ASK AND THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT YOU AND I BECAUSE WE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS IT YES, SIR. WAS THERE A SECOND. I'M NOT CLEAR. THE ADVISORY BOARD HAS TO MEET. WE SET THE CONFERENCE AGENDA ITEM. IF THE CHIEF WANTS TO GET THE ADVISORY BOARD TOGETHER AND COME BACK WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND LET HER DO IT. BUT NO, WE NEED TO SET A DATE. I WOULD APPRECIATE IT SO WE COULD ADDRESS THESE ISSUES AT A CONFERENCE AGENDA. THAT'S THE BEST -- COMMISSIONER

ALEXANDER YOU THERE? >>MAYOR HUDSON: IS THERE A

SECOND. >> EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND MY

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MOTION? >> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> ALL SECONDED. I MADE THE, IN THE BEGINNING THAT WE NEED TO TAKE IT WHERE WE CAN DISCUSS IT AS INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS AMONGST EACH OTHER, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO VIOLATE SUNSHINE LAW. BUT YOU KNOW, IF WE SIT AROUND AND THINK THERE'S NO PROBLEM, LITTLE GOODIE TWO SHOE FORT PIERCE WE GOT A PROBLEM RIGHT THERE. BECAUSE WE HAVE JUST AS MANY PROBLEMS AS ANYBODY ELSE. WE ARE NO BETTER THAN ANY OTHER CITY. WERE NO LESSER THAN ANY OTHER CITY. BUT WE SURELY -- WE NEED TO BE PROACTIVE ON THESE ISSUES.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?

>> YES I AGREE. WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS. THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT FORWARD TONIGHT, BUT WE NEED TO BREAK THEM APART, PARCEL THEM OUT AND TAKE THEM ONE BY ONE.

IN THIS CASE WERE TALKING ABOUT BODY CAMERAS YES, SIR. THE FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT COVERS IT ALL IS WHAT YOU STATED EARLIER. AND I AGREE WITH THAT. SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS WHAT PART OF IT ARE WE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OR ARE WE GOING TO ENHANCE THE POLICY? WE GOING TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS? ARE WE GOING TO TRY TO LEGISLATE THE NEW

POLICY. >> THAT LIES UPON US AT THE DISCUSSION. WILL MAKE THAT DETERMINATION THEN. I CAN TELL YOU WHAT I'M GONNA DO WHEN I GET TO THE OPERATING ROOM UNTIL I GET THERE AND SEE WHAT THE STATE OF THE VICTIM IS.

>> OKAY. WELL. >> SO I CAN ANSWER THAT RIGHT NOW. I CAN GIVE YOU A DIAGNOSIS YET BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS LET'S GET THERE AND EXAMINE AND LOOK AT ALL THESE DIFFERENT ISSUES. AND I PUT FIVE OF THEM ON THE TABLE.

>> THOSE WERE NOT RELATED TO BODY WORN CAMERAS.

>> INCLUSIVE OF PARTYBODY FOR CAMERA POLICE REFORMATION EVERYTHING. ALL OF IT. DO YOU WANT TO NARROW IT DOWN FOR THE CONSENSUS AND DEAL WITH BODY CAMERAS, IT'S GETTING LATE.

ALL AGREE TO THAT FOR STARTERS. AT LEAST WERE GOING SOMEWHERE. IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO GO WITH THIS LET'S DEAL WITH THE BODY CAMERAS AND EXACTLY.

>> I THINK WE HAVE TO -- I HAVE A FEELING IT WOULD TAKE A WEEK LONG DISCUSSION TO START PARCELING OUT THE THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED TONIGHT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE BREAK IT DOWN IN THE RIGHT WAY AND THAT IS ADDRESSED. COMMISSIONER PERRONE WAS ASKING WHAT ARE THE PROBLEMS I LIKE TO SEE DEFICIENCIES SO WE CAN MAKE IMPROVEMENTS. I BELIEVE THAT ALSO. I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEARCHING FOR AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING.

I MEAN CAN WE DO IT -- IS THAT WE SHOULD DO.

>> US TO WITH THE BODY CAMERAS, YES. YES.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WERE MAKING A MOTION ON SOMETHING THAT'S ODD IN MY OPINION ALSO

JUST DO IT. >> THIS IS AN ODD SITUATION.

>> I'M SAYING WERE GOING TO HAVE A CONFERENCE AGENDA IS MY POINT SO LET'S MAKE THE TOPIC -- IF THIS IS THE TOPIC OF DISCUSSION WE CAN HAVE A JOINT MEETING. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MR. MA'AM SENT STAFF UNDERSTANDS EXACTLY WHAT WERE LOOKING FOR SO WE CAN HAVE -- AND I MAKE SURE THAT I'M CLEAR SO THAT WHEN WE SHOW UP THAT DAY, WILL HAVE A REAL DISCUSSION ABOUT A SPECIFIC -- IF THE LORD BLESSED ME AND I'M LIVING, WORKING HAVE A REAL DISCUSSION. YOU CAN REST ASSURED OF THAT.

>> OKAY. >> IF HE ALLOWS ME TO SEE THAT

DAY. >> I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A LENGTHY DISCUSSION. SO WE HAVE TO MAKE.

>> LIKE TONIGHT? (LAUGHING) SO THAT MR. MIMBS UNDERSTANDS WE CAN SCHEDULE TOO MUCH AT A CONFERENCE AGENDA. WERE GOING TO MAKE IT A HEARTFELT DISCUSSION.

>> IF WE HAVE TIME TO EXPAND ON THE TOPICS, THAT WILL DO THAT, BUT THAT'S ALL. THAT'S THE BUSINESS OF THE CITY THE INFORMAL CONFERENCES AND START TO TALK IT AND HASH IT OUT AND MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHAT DIRECTION WE ARE MOVING FORWARD IN.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: SO I'M HEARING THE ISSUE DISCUSSED WILL BE BODY WORN CAMERAS, RIGHT? COMMISSIONER PERRONE, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD.

>> NO. I WOULD HOPE THERE'S BACKUP INFORMATION THAT WE CAN GET OURSELVES TO A LEVEL SO THAT WE CAN HIT THE ROAD RUNNING WILL WE GET TO THAT POINT.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE FOR ALL OF THE ITEMS. ARE YOU WILLING TO MODIFY YOUR MOTION. COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER ARE YOU WILLING TO ACCEPT A MODIFICATION.

>> YES. >> AND FOR THE RECORD, MADAME CLERK, THOSE ARE JUST SO MANY DIFFERENT FORMS OF SYSTEMATIC RACISM THAT WERE HAVING HERE AND I PUT A LOT ON THE TABLE TONIGHT. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I -- MY WHOLE PURPOSE IS TO WAKE US UP AND DEAL WITH THESE ISSUES. AND I AGREE. LET'S DEAL WITH THEM ONE AT A TIME.

BUT, KEEP IN MIND, WE HAVE MORE THAN JUST THAT. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

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LET'S NARROW IT DOWN. LET'S BRING EVERYBODY TO THE TABLE AND DEAL WITH THEM ONE AT A TIME. BUT PLEASE, DON'T TAKE ANYTHING FROM ALL OF THESE OTHER ISSUES THAT I RAISED EARLIER HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE THEY ARE STILL MAJOR PROBLEMS. IN THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S CAN HAPPEN AFTER THAT BUT I'M GOING TO RAISE LILY HELEN UNTIL WE START ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE PROBLEMS. AND I HOPE THAT WE WILL. SO FOR NOW, YES. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM OR NARROWING IT DOWN TO THAT ISSUE. AND WE MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE.

>> ONE MORE QUICK ONE. I AGREE, COMMISSIONER. I EVEN WENT BACK AND I CALLED FORMER CHIEFS AND THEY WERE EXPLAINING TO ME SOME POLICIES THAT WERE ENACTED BY THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT 20 YEARS AGO THAT I THINK HELPED WHAT WAS DISCUSSED HERE TONIGHT. I BELIEVE IT'S THERE. I'M NOT SAYING IS BEING ENFORCED I'M NOT. MAYBE IT IS, IT'S NOT, I'M WAITING TO HEAR THE DATA FROM THE FOLKS THAT ARE IN CHARGE. SO THERE'S A LOT TO BE SAID A LOT TO BE TALKED ABOUT AND IF WE CAN BREAK IT DOWN AND START TO NOT PICK IT APART, BUT TO REVIEW, ANALYZE AND DIGEST, BUT I'M WILLING TO DO THAT EVERY TIME

WE MEET. >>MAYOR HUDSON: AND UNDERSTAND

WHAT IS THE WAY IT IS AND. >> EXACTLY. MR. MIMBS, ARE YOU -- WOULD YOU LIKE TO CHIMEIN TO THIS CONVERSATION?

>> MADAME MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COMMISSION, ME, PERSONALLY I THINK IT NEEDS TO HAVE ITS OWN SPECIAL WORKSHOP. WE CANNOT JUST THROW THIS ON AN AGENDA AND EXPECT TO HAVE A TRUE DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS. I SAW SEVERAL ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT TO THE LIGHT BY COMMISSIONER SESSIONS. I THINK WE CAN DISCUSS THEM ALL. OUR NEXT CITY COMMISSION CONFERENCE MEETING IS JUNE -- I'M SORRY -- JULY 13. THAT IS ALSO OUR FIRST BUDGET WORKSHOP. I DO NOT THINK WE SHOULD COMBINE THAT WITH THE BUDGET WORKSHOP. I THINK TO HAVE A SPECIAL CITY COMMISSION WORKSHOP EITHER IN LATE JULY OR OUR NEXT CITY COMMISSION CONFERENCE MEETING IS AUGUST 10. SO I WOULD SAY LET'S HAVE A SPECIAL WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS THESE ISSUES AND KNOCK THEM OUT. IDENTIFY HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AND IMPROVE THE SITUATION. BUT WE HAVE NOT ONLY A NATION THAT IS HURTING, WE HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT'S HURTING. SO LET'S WORK TOGETHER AND IDENTIFY. LET'S DIG INTO THIS. WE CAN'T CONTINUE EVERYBODY GETS UPSET AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENS. LET'S GET THE CHEAP TO WORK AND GET THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE WORKING SO IT'S UP TO YOU. LATE JULY OR EARLY AUGUST.

>> THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR THAT PARTICULAR ITEM. I DO NOT WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THAT DISCUSSION I AGREE. WE SHOULD HAVE A WORKSHOP. AND I WILL BE HERE ALL DAY -- ALL WEEKEND. I HAVE PLENTY OF TIME. BUT AS FAR AS THE BODY CAMERAS IS CONCERNED, MY MOTION IS TO ADDRESS THAT. TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE AS IT RELATES TO THAT ISSUE. SO.

>> ALL RIGHT. YES, SIR. >> ARE WE READY TO VOTE? WOULD

YOU LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION. >> FOR THE CONFERENCE AGENDA?

>> YES READY TO VOTE? OKAY. >> READY TO VOTE

>> (ROLL CALL). >> MET AMERICA COULD QUICK I VOTED NO BECAUSE I HEARD THE CITY MANAGER LOUD AND CLEAR. I WANT HAVE A MEETING ABOUT THIS AND I KNOW HE IS UNDER THE -- IS WORKING HARD FOR THE BUDGET. I HEAR HIM LOUD AND CLEAR.

LET'S DO IT. WE CAN ACCOMPLISH BOTH AND I'M ASSUMING IT WOULD BE JULY.

>> THAT'S ALL SAYING. >> I KNOW. IT'S BUDGET TIME.

IT'S A CRITICAL TIME AND I KNOW THE STAFF IS WORKING HARD.

>> MADAME MAYOR? >> AND ALSO, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF BACKLOG BECAUSE WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD REALLY LONG COMMISSION MEETINGS WITH QUASIJUDICIAL ISSUES. I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF CATCH-UP. ONE THING YOU DO NOT WANT TO DO IS YOU DO NOT WANT TO TURN THE HEAT UP ON THE INTENSITY OF WHAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO AND HAVE UNDERLYING ISSUES THAT ARE GOING FORWARD. YOU KNOW, THIS IS IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THIS THING, AT LEAST ON A STAGE WHERE WE ARE UNDERSTANDING BETTER AND IF

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NEED BE, WE ARE FIXING IT AS WE GO ALONG BECAUSE THAT'S ALL WE DO WELL. AND THE FIVE OF US DO

A DECENT JOB OF THAT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: GOOD POINT.

GOOD POINT. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> READY FOR THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM?

[a. Review and approval of the Request for Proposals for the management and lease of the Savannah Road Animal Shelter.]

>> YEAH. >> THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS REVIEW AND APPROVAL FOR THE PROPOSALS FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF THE SAVANNAH ROAD ANIMAL

SHELTER. >>MAYOR HUDSON: RIGHT.

>> MADAME MAYOR? >> YOU WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE TO SEE IF ANYBODY WANTS TO LET THEMSELVES OUT, CALM DOWN IS PRESENTED.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: WE CAN CLOSE THE DOOR.

>> COMMISSIONER SESSIONS ONE OF THE DOORS OPEN ARE YOU ONE OF THE FOCUS DISCUSSION NOW?

>> OKAY. >>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY.

>> GOOD EVENING MAN AMERICA MEASURES. WHAT I'M PRESENTING TO YOU TODAY IS THE RFP FOR THE OPERATION AND MANAGEMENT AND LEASE OF THE FACILITY, THE SAVANNAH ROAD ANIMAL SHELTER.

ON APRIL 6 THE CITY COMMISSION ENTERED INTO AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR THE REHABILITATION IN THE SAVANNAH ROAD ANIMAL SHELTER. IT REQUIRED THE CITY TO ISSUE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS ARE BELOW -- BEFORE JULY 1 TWO WERE IN JUNE. WE ARE MEETING AT TIMELINE. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT AGREEMENT REPRESENTATIVES FROM BOTH PARTIES WILL PARTICIPATE IN THE EVALUATION PROCESS. THIS RFP HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO ST. LUCIE COUNTY FOR COMMENT AND REVIEW AND THEY'VE DONE THAT. THE SHELTER REHABILITATION HAS BEEN ONGOING AND THE ANTICIPATED PHASE 1 WILL BE COMPLETED ON TIME. PHASE 1 IS EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF THE MONTH WITH OPERATIONS TRANSFERRED FROM THE TEMPORARY SHELTER TO THE SAVANNAH ROAD ANIMAL SHELTER AS OF JULY 1. I HAVE PHOTOS OF THE FACILITY AT THE END OF THIS TO SHOW YOU. OKAY. SO SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE RFP, THE PURPOSE IS TO ESTABLISH A CONTRACT AND LEASE FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF AN ANIMAL SHELTER, THE ADOPTIONS AND THAT MARY SERVICES. THE MANAGEMENT AND OPERATIONS IS FOR A SHORT-TERM BASIS FOR FIVE YEARS BUT WITH THREE ADDITIONAL FIVE-YEAR TERMS. THE TERMS COULD BE UP TO 20 YEARS BUT IT'S BREAKING INTO FIVE YEAR INCREMENTS SO EITHER PARTY HAS THE ABILITY TO GET OUT OF THE AGREEMENT AT A SHORTER TERM.

AND THEN, THE SUCCESSFUL PROPOSAL BE THE QUALIFIED EXPERIENCED PROPOSAL AND THE PROPOSAL IS MOST RESPONSIVE TO OUR GOALS. BECAUSE WE ARE PARTNERS IN THIS. THE PLAN PROVIDES A REALISTIC MANAGEMENT PLAN. WERE LOOKING FOR REALISTIC MANAGEMENT PLAN.

THAT'S IMPORTANT. WE DON'T WANT PIE-IN-THE-SKY WE WANT SOMETHING THAT IS TRUE TO LIFE.

SO SOME OF THESE HIGHLIGHTS -- I PUT THE PAGES AT THE TOPIC ISSUE FOLLOWING ON THE PAPER.

WE ARE LOOKING TO PROVIDE AN ANIMAL SHELTER TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND UNINCORPORATED ST. LUCIE COUNTY. WE WANT AN ORGANIZATION THAT WILL PROVIDE FRIENDLY SERVICE. SPECIFICALLY VACCINATIONS AND STERILIZATION SURGERIES. ALL ANIMALS ARE REQUIRED BY STATE STATUTE AND LOCAL ORDINANCE TO BE STERILIZED PRIOR TO ANY ADOPTION. WERE LOOKING FOR AN ORGANIZATION TO PROVIDE NECESSARY CARE TO ALL ANIMALS TO PROMOTE ADOPTION SERVICES, TO OPERATE A VOLUNTEER PROGRAM AND PROVIDE PUBLIC EDUCATION AND PET OWNERSHIP. WERE LOOKING FOR AN ORGANIZATION THAT WILL BE SELF-SUFFICIENT THROUGH FUNDRAISING ADOPTION AND VETERINARY SERVICES SUPPLEMENTED BY PUBLIC FUNDS. NOT RUN BY PUBLIC FUNDS BUT SUPPLEMENTED BY PUBLIC FUNDS. SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS -- THIS IS NOT EVERYTHING. THIS IS JUST PIECES OF IT. ADOPTIONS. WERE LOOKING FOR AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS GOING TO PRESENT THE ANIMALS FOR ADOPTION ENCOURAGE ADOPTION AND INCREASE THE NUMBER OF ADOPTIONS. WE ARE ALSO LOOKING FOR A REDUCTION IN EUTHANASIA. THE MORE ADOPTIONS YOU HAVE THE LESS EUTHANASIA YOU WILL HAVE. PART OF THAT REQUIREMENT WILL BE THAT A LIST OF ANIMALS SCHEDULED TO BE EUTHANIZED BE PROVIDED TO RESCUE ORGANIZATIONS. YOU'VE GOT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO MARIA AND HER CREW FROM ST. LUCIE COUNTY WHO ARE OPERATING A TEMPORARY

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SHELTER. THEY'RE OPERATING IT PRETTY MUCH AS A NO KILL SHELTER BECAUSE THEY'VE DEVELOPED A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE RESCUE ORGANIZATIONS THEY'RE COMING IN AND TAKING ANIMALS. THEY'RE GETTING ADOPTED AND THINGS ARE MOVING AND OPERATING BEAUTIFULLY. SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO CONTINUE THAT, KEEP THE EUTHANASIA RATE DOWN AND CREATE

ADOPTIONS. >>MAYOR HUDSON: IS SHE A COUNTY

EMPLOYEE? BUT SHE IS. >> PROVIDE THE BEST POSSIBLE CARE AND TREATMENT FOR THE ANIMALS. THAT WAS THE DEFICIENCY THAT WE HAD SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE BEST POSSIBLE CARE PROVIDED AND THAT EVERY ANIMAL HAS THEIR CITY REGISTRATION OR COUNTY REGISTRATION. LICENSING IS AN IMPORTANT TOOL TO HELP US KEEP TRACK OF WHO THE ANIMALS ARE RETURNED TO OWNER INCREASES WHEN THE LICENSING IS DONE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE LICENSES ARE ISSUED AND THAT THE COMPOSER COMPLIES WITH ALL RECORD-KEEPING INCLUDING -- SO PUBLIC RECORDS LAW WILL APPLY TO THEMAS WELL.

WE ARE LOOKING FOR A PERSON A PROPOSER THAT HAS FIVE YEARS EXPERIENCE IN SOME ANIMAL RELATED SERVICE ANIMAL SHELTER VETERINARY PRACTICE OR OTHER SERVICE. WE ARE ALSO LOOKING FOR STAFF TO INCLUDE A LICENSED VETERINARIAN, A TECHNICIAN, A CERTIFIED EUTHANASIA TECHNICIAN AND A CERTIFIED OR PROFESSIONAL DOG BEHAVIOR TRAINER. WE WANT TO PROMOTE ADOPTIONS IN PUBLIC EDUCATION. IT WILL LOOKING FOR A PROPOSER WILL USE MODERN SHELTER MANAGEMENT PRACTICES INCLUDING PARTICIPATING IN THINGS LIKE THE DMV ARE THAT WE'VE ADOPTED, USING SOCIAL MEDIA AND INTAKE DIVERSION METHODS. THEY WANT TO FIND OUT WHY IS THE ANIMAL GETTING TURNED IN AND IS THERE A WAY WE CAN HELP YOU KEEP YOUR ANIMAL? IF YOU CAN AFFORD FOOD OR YOU CAN AFFORD THE MEDICATIONS LET US PUT YOU IN TOUCH WITH AN ORGANIZATION THAT MAY BE ABLE TO HELP YOU AND YOU CAN KEEP YOUR ANIMAL. THAT'S INTAKE DIVERSION. FACILITY RENTAL INLAYS. WE ARE LOOKING FOR AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS GOING TO LEASE THE FACILITY ON A MONTHLY RENTAL OR IT COULD BE A REDUCTION IN SERVICE PAYMENTS THAT WE MAKE. IF THERE IS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY WISH TO MAKE WHICH BECOME PERMANENT AND WILL BE PROPERTY THE CITY AT THE END OF THE LEASE, THAT COULD COUNTERACT SOME LEASE PAYMENTS THROUGH A SET PERIOD OF TIME. WE ARE LOOKING FOR AN ORGANIZATION TO PRESENT A LEASE PROPOSAL TO US.

AND THEN THE EVALUATION PROCESS THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE RFP REQUIRES BOTH ORGANIZATIONS TO BE PART OF THE REVIEW PROPOSAL. THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE WILL REVIEW AND EVALUATE PROPOSALS AND RANK THEM AND THEN UPON COMPLETION OF THE EVALUATION WILL BE RECOMMENDED TO THE CITY COMMISSION, THE RANKINGS. AND THE FINAL DECISION AND SELECTION AND AWARD WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE COMMISSION. THE COMMITEE WILL DO THE WORK PRESENT THE TOP RANKED FIRMS OR ORGANIZATIONS TO THE COMMISSION AND THE COMMISSION MAKES THE

FINAL DECISION. >> THE PROPOSED TIMELINE THIS CURRENT WEEK STARTING TODAY WITH THE COMMISSION'S APPROVAL AND WE WILL MOVE FORWARD. WE WILL FINALIZE THE RFP AND PREPARE THE DOCUMENT FOR ADVERTISING. ON JUNE 24, THE DOCUMENT WILL BE POSTED ON DEMAND STAR AND THE CITY WEBSITE. ON JUNE 25, I BELIEVE IS WHAT IT WILL BECOME AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. IT WILL BE ADVERTISED ON TWO SEPARATE DATES -- JUNE 25 THAT'LL BE AVAILABLE ON JULY 23 WILL BE THE DEADLINE. IT'S APPROXIMATELY ONE MONTH THAT THE RFP WILL BE OPEN FOR PROPOSALS. AND THEN ON JULY 27 THROUGH THE SEVENTH EVALUATION COMMITTEE WILL DO THEIR WORK AND HOPEFULLY IN AUGUST THROUGH TO -- JULY 7 AT 10 AM, JULY 9 AT 3 PM AND JULY 14 AT 6 PM, I WILL ARRANGE FOR ON-SITE INSPECTIONS. I'VE GOTTEN CALLS WHEN CAN I SEE IT BECAUSE PEOPLE KNOW THE BUILDING IS GETTING REHABBED AND WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT. I'M GOING TO SET UP THREE SPECIFIC TIMES.

IT WILL BE INCLUDED IN ADVERTISING WHEN PEOPLE CAN COME AND SEE THE FACILITY. AND THAT'S THE PRESENTATION ON THE RFP.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER PERONA.

>> THANK YOU. I'M EXCITED. I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. I'M SURE THE COUNTY IS EXCITED ABOUT THIS ALSO. AND I'M HAPPY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE OUR PARTNER IN THE SERVICES THAT GO ON. SO, IT'S MORE THAN A QUESTION, IT'S -- I LOOKED THROUGH THE WHOLE THING AND I WOULD LIKE FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER PUTTING SUSAN PERRY ON THAT EVALUATION COMMITTEE.

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AND I SAY THAT ONLY BECAUSE SHE BRINGS A UNIQUE SENSE OF KNOWLEDGE, INFORMATION, NETWORKING. SHE'S A PARTNER WITH THE CITY. I'M SURE THAT AFTER WE GET DONE WITH OUR SELECTION PROCESS, I WILL HEAR WHAT WE DIDN'T DO RIGHT BECAUSE SHE'S SO SPECIFIC TO THIS. AND I REALLY TRUST A LOT OF WHAT SHE HAS TO SAY. I'M NOT SAYING SHE HAS ALL THE ANSWERS. SHE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE TEMPERED BY A COMMITTEE MUCH LIKE WE ARE. WE HAVE TO BE TEMPERED SOMEWHAT BY EACH OTHER. BUT ORIGINALLY, IF YOU REMEMBER I WANTED US TO BE THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE WE FIGURED OUT THAT THAT WASN'T GOING TO WORK BECAUSE OF SUNSHINE AND ALL THE OTHER ISSUES. IT WAS GOING TO BE A LOT OF WORK. PEGGY IS AN EXPERT IN THE FIELD. I JUST WANT EVERY PERSON THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY THINK OF TO DO THIS RIGHT. WE ENDED UP WITH A VERY BAD SITUATION, I THINK, WITH YOUR ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO REPEAT THAT EVER AGAIN. I'M ASKING YOU FOR THAT CONSIDERATION. I THINK WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO POINT SOMEBODY ON THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE AND I WOULD RESPECT THE FACT THAT THAT PRODUCT WOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER BECAUSE OF HER THEN WITHOUT HER. AND RATHER THAN GO BACK LATER AND TRY TO FIX ALL THINGS, WE'VE A CHANCE TO BE ABLE TO PUT EXPERTS ON THAT COMMITTEE THAT CAN HELP US MAKE REALLY GOOD DECISIONS.

>> COULD A LOOK AT WHO'S ON THE COMMITTEE?

>> I DON'T EVEN KNOW WAS ON THE COMMITTEE.

>> THE JOINT PARTICIPANTS IS WHAT IT SAYS.

>> FROM BOTH ORGANIZATIONS. RIGHT. GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER JOHNSON?

>> I AGREE. I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE WERE FIRST SETTING THIS UP I BELIEVE EVEN TWO TIMES AGO AND PEGGY -- ANOTHER EXCELLENT JOB. YOU'VE MADE ADJUSTMENTS AND AMENDMENTS THAT ARE ROCK SOLID I BELIEVE AND I THINK WILL HAVE GOOD APPLICANTS. WE TALKED ABOUT PROFESSIONALS AND EXPERTS IN THE FIELD. AT SOME POINT IN ALL THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND COMMISSIONER, I'M ON BOARD. I AGREE. WE COULD HAVE TWO FROM THE AGENCIES -- EACH AGENCY AND THEN HAVE AS THE FIFTH MEMBER FOR GOING TO GO FOR A MEMBER OR TEAM OF FIVE, THAT MS. PERRY WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: IS AT THE FIRST TIME WE HAD SOMEONE -- FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WASN'T BORN RFP? I DON'T KNOW? HAVE WE -- HAVE WE DONE THAT BEFORE?

>> THAT HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AND FIND OUT. I DON'T KNOW. PURCHASING WOULD BE THE DEPARTMENT TO CHECK IN WITH THAT.

>> SO THAT WHOEVER DOES THIS, IF THEY PARTICIPATE IN THEIR NOT STAFF THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE RULES ABOUT RFPS AND ALL OF THE CONVENTIONALITY -- MR. SWEENEY, ICU -- I TURN

THE LIGHT ON. >> IS AT THE WING.

>> WHEN MY LIGHT COMES ON -- ABSOLUTELY. MUCH LIKE WHAT ALL OF YOU WENT THROUGH WITH THE KINGS LANDING PROPOSAL AND HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS I THINK THIS IS ON PAR IMPORTANCE. NEEDS TO HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF DIGNITY AND PROPRIETY WHICH MEANS THAT AGAIN, SUNSHINE LAW AND THE PUBLIC RECORDS ACT WILL EQUALLY APPLY. SO WHOEVER THE MEMBER IS WERE MEMBERS OF THAT COMMITTEE ARE THEY'LL BE MEETING IN A PUBLIC SETTING AND DISCUSSIONS WILL BE IN A PUBLIC SETTING. THEY CAN'T EMAIL EACH OTHER AND CALL EACH OTHER THEY SHOULDN'T EVEN REALLY STOP TO SAY HI OR US. OR YOU AS WELL BECAUSE THEY ARE MEETING MORE IN A VACUUM AND THEN PRESENTING IT TO YOU. THAT SETTING COMMISSIONER JOHNSON I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN AT THE COUNTY EVALUATIONS FOR PROPOSALS OFTEN INCLUDE BABY NONTRADITIONAL AGENCIES WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT SPECIALIZED. IF IT'S A TOURISM ASPECT YOU MIGHT BRING IN SOMEBODY THAT IS HIGHLY SPECIALIZED THERE. MY UNDERSTANDING IS MS. PERRY'S ASSOCIATION WITH A NONPROFIT IS A FAIRLY SPECIALIZED POSITION. AS A RESULT OF THAT HAS BEEN WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY. BUT AGAIN, ALL OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS HAVE TO BE MET BECAUSE THE BE WORKING AS AN EXTENSION OF THE CITY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT. VALID POINT.

>> I THINK MS. PERRY WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT INDIVIDUAL TO BE A PART OF THE BOARD. WHAT I LIKE ABOUT HER IS THAT SHE HAS BEEN ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT NOT ONLY HAS BEEN ACTIVE, IN TERMS OF CONTRIBUTING HER TIME AND EFFORT, BUT LAST, BUT NOT LEAST, WHEN I SIT HER, HER MONEY. SHE HAS BEEN OUT THERE SHE'S VERY ACTIVE AND SHE SOMETIMES GETS UPSET ABOUT WHAT

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GOES ON AT CITY HALL, BUT AT ANY RATE, THAT'S ALL THE MORE REASON WHY WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOMEBODY IN THAT POSITION TO HELP OUT. I WOULD AGREE MS. PERRY WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE PERSON TO DO SO. HOPEFULLY, SHE WILL ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION.

>> MANNA MAYOR, THE PROPOSALS WILL NOT BE SUBMITTED TO AN EVALUATION COMMITTEE UNTIL THE END OF JULY. WE HAVE TIME TO PUT THE COMMITTEE TOGETHER I CAN COME BACK IN A SEPARATE MEETING AND PRESENT THE COMMISSION WITH A RECOMMENDED EVALUATION COMMITTEE TO INCLUDE MS. PERRY. TWO FROM THE COUNTY TO FROM THE CITY AND ONE OUTSIDE EVALUATOR. WE CAN BRING THAT BACK THE SECOND MEETING IN JULY?

>> AND I TRIED -- I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS LONG AND HARD. I DID CALL MS. PERRY TODAY AND TELL HER WHAT WAS ON MY MIND TAKING THAT SHE WAS GOING TO TALK ME OUT OF IT. AFTER MUCH ADO, SHE UNDERSTANDS THE IMPORTANCE AND SHE SAID HOW MUCH TIME WOULD BE INVOLVED AND I SAID LESS TIME THAN YOU WOULD SPEND AFTER IT'S OVER TELLING ME EVERYTHING THAT WE DID WRONG (LAUGHING) SO OUT OF RESPECT -- AND I KNOW AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING THAT SHE KNOWS BUT I KNOW THAT BETWEEN PEGGY AND SUSAN PERRY, THAT'S WHY WE ARE THE ANIMAL CONTROL CITY THAT WE ARE. AND RIGHT NOW A LOT OF FOLKS IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE COPYING EVERYTHING WE DO AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THOSE TWO LADIES.

>> YOU'RE BOTH ON THE. >> I'M SURE PEGGY WILL BEYOND THEIR. I ASSUME THAT. I'D LIKE BOTH OF THEM ON THEIR. PERSONALLY, I WOULD.

>> I NOTED THAT. IT WAS NOTED. >> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER?

>> YES WOULD YOU LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON THIS SUBJECT?

>> I'M LISTENING. AND IT'S VERY GOOD COMMENTS. I SUPPORT -- I SUPPORT EVERYTHING THAT'S

BEING SAID. >> ALL RIGHT. SO RIGHT NOW, THOUGH WE HAVE THE RFP BEFORE US.

>> THE RFP AND BEFORE I LEAVE I WANT TO SHOW THE PHOTOS -- I CAN DO THAT REAL QUICK?

>> YES. >> SOME A LITTLE SUPER EXCITED

SO FORGIVE ME BECAUSE. >> WOW.

>> IT'S VERY EXCITING THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE. SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF TIMELINE PHOTOS.

THIS WAS THE SHELTER ON AUGUST 6. THIS IS FROM THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. THIS WAS TAKEN IN MID-MAY WE STARTED MOVING ALL THE WOOD. DOWN HERE -- LET ME GET THE POINTER. DOWN HERE THERE WAS A WOODEN FENCE THAT'S BEEN REMOVED. THE WOOD HAS BEEN REMOVED AND IS GETTING TO BE REPLACED. AND THEN, THIS IS THIS MORNING. SO ALL THE WOOD ALONG THE FRONT HAS BEEN REPLACED. IT'S BEEN BEAUTIFULLY LANDSCAPED ON THE FRONT AND SIDE. SOME OF THE GUYS ARE DOING LANDSCAPING. AND YOU CAN SEE THE WINDOWS HAVE ALL BEEN TAPED. THE PAINTING IS READY TO GO ANY DAY NOW. ALL OF THE PAINTING IS GETTING DONE IS BASIC COLORS WHITE AND GRAY. WHICHEVER OPERATOR COMES IN WILL HAVE A CHOICE OF CHANGING THAT. WE ARE MAKING WHITE AND GRAY COLORS TO ALLOW WHICHEVER ORGANIZATION TO PERSONALIZE IT

AND MAKE IT THEIR OWN. >> RIGHT. AGAIN, THIS IS MORE ROTTEN WOOD. THIS IS A CAR THAT USED TO BE THE OLD BUILDING. I CAME IN AND THEY HAD -- EVERY TIME I COME THERE'S MORE HAPPENING.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: I DON'T LIKE TO LOOK AT THE OLD ONES. THEY STARTED REMOVING THE WOOD AND THEN THE NEXT TIME I CAME BACK, WE GOT ALL THE NEW WOOD AND WE ARE RECEIVING A NEW DOOR HERE.

THERE'S NEW DOORS THROUGHOUT THE FACILITY. I WENT AROUND KISSING DOORS I WAS SO HAPPY.

THIS IS AN OUTBUILDING ON THE SIDE. THIS IS WHERE ANIMAL CONTROL IS JUST DROPPED THEIR ANIMALS OFFER IN BOUNDS. THE NEXT TIME I CAME BACK THEY WERE GONE. THE NEXT TIME I CAME BACK ALL THE WOOD HAD BEEN REPAIRED OR REPLACED. ALMOST ALL OF THIS WORK IS GETTING DONE BY ST. LUCIE COUNTY. THEIR CREWS ARE OUT THERE EVERY DAY AND THEY ARE DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB. THIS WAS TAKEN THIS MORNING.

THIS IS THE INTERIOR OFFICE ROOM. WE TALKED ABOUT DOING PHASE I WE TALKED ABOUT DROPPING A TEMPORARY OFFICE BUILDING IN THE PARKING LOT. THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE NECESSARY BECAUSE THE OFFICE BUILDING WILL BE REDONE BEFORE JULY 1. THIS WHOLE CABINET

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HERE, THIS DESK AREA HAS BEEN REBUILT AND REFURBISHED. THE INTERIOR HAS BEEN COMPLETELY -- ALL THE WALLS REPAIRED -- YOU CAN SEE THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF PAINTING.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: DIFFERENT DOORS OVER HERE RIGHT.

>> THE FRONT DOORS OVER HERE. >> THIS IS JUST OUTSIDE THE SURGERY CENTER. THIS LEFT ASIDE HERE AND THIS RIGHT SIDE WERE THE SAME DOOR, THIS DOOR THAT'S BEEN REPLACED. THIS RUST IS ÃMAKE IT WAS ON EVERY SINGLE DOOR. EVERY SINGLE DOOR HAD THE RUST AND THEY'VE ALL BEEN REPLACED WITH THESE BEAUTIFUL DOORS.

>> THIS IS THE SECOND STORY, THE KITCHEN THAT WAS IN THE OFFICE BUILDING. THIS IS WHAT IT WAS IN AUGUST. THIS IS WHAT IT IS TODAY EMPTY, REPAIRED AND READY FOR A NEW KITCHEN TO BE PUT IN. AGAIN, THIS WAS THE SECOND STORY OFFICE, THE MAIN ROOM IN THE OFFICE UPSTAIRS.

THIS IS MID WORK IN THIS IS THIS MORNING. SO, THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE PICTURES THIS IS WHAT WE HAD. AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE. SO WHEN I DO THE ON-SITE TOURS WITH WHOEVER IS INTERESTED, IS GOING TO BE EASIER FOR ME TO PRESENT THIS FACILITY IS SOMETHING TO RENT AND LEASE THAN WHAT WE HAD. I'M VERY EXCITED.

>> WE NEED TO BE INCLUDED BUT WE CANNOT ALL BE INCLUDED.

>> RIGHT. I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY OF YOU FOR A TOUR AT ANY TIME.

>> GREAT. >> THE AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM HAS BEEN COMPLETELY REPLACED. THERE ARE THREE BRAND-NEW AIR-CONDITIONERS INSTALLED IN THE MAIN BUILDING. AND WE'VE ALSO -- THE ST. LUCIE COUNTY IS DONE THE WORK BUT WE HAVE ALSO REPLACED THE ENTIRE VENTILATION SYSTEM. THERE'S NEW HEATERS. THERE ARE NEW VENTS THROUGH THE WHOLE -- ALL THE DOG RUNS OF NEW VENTILATION. EVERYTHING THAT IS OLD WAS GONE IS BEING REPLACED WITH NEW. THESE ARE THE OLD CANDLES WITH THE CONCRETE DAMAGE. THE RUSTY OLD FENCES. SO THE FIRST THING THEY DID WAS THEY REMOVED DEFENSES REMOVE THE DAMAGE CONCRETE. THEN THEY REPAIRED -- THEY DID A LOT OF CONCRETE WORK A LOT OF CONCRETE REPAIR WORK. THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. SO THIS IS THE C BUILDING. THIS IS THE BUILDING THAT WILL BE OPEN FOR OPERATION ON JULY 1. IT STILL NEEDS TO HAVE THE REST OF THE WALLS PAINTED AND THE FENCES INSTALLED. THERE IS STILL WORK TO BE DONE BUT ISN'T THAT

EXCITING TO LOOK AT? >> VERY NICE. SO THIS -- THIS IS -- THERE WILL BE A PRODUCT TO PRESENT TO ORGANIZATIONS TO SAY COME IN AND READ THIS FOR THIS -- SOME WILL GIVE YOU A BUILDING THAT'S UP TO CODING CLEAN AND YOU JUST NEED TO PERSONALIZE IT AND MAKE IT YOUR OWN. YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO REPAIR IT.

>> IT DOES HAVE GOOD BONES. >> IT HAS GOOD BONES.

>> THAT'S THE -- THAT WAS THE PRESENTATION AND AGAIN, WE NEED TO GET -- I WANTED TO SHOW YOU ALL THAT. THERE IS SO MUCH PROGRESS GOING ON.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: THERE'S A LOT. I FEEL A LOT BETTER ABOUT THIS PROJECT THAT WE DID SIX OR EIGHT MONTHS AGO (LAUGHING) DAUNTING. ALREADY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION WE WANT TO MAKE A

MOTION? >> AMANDA MAYOR, I WILL JUST SAY THANK YOU TO THIS COMMISSION AND THE COUNTY COMMISSION FOR DEDICATING THE TIME, RESOURCES AND EFFORT GIVING STAFF THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO THIS POINT. THIS IS A COMMUNITYWIDE ISSUE. WE TALKED ABOUT IT MANY MONTHS AGO AND IT IS A SUCCESS. IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS REQUIRED BY STATE STATUTE IN SO MANY LANGUAGES AND WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR BUT IT'S A COLLABORATION. I HAVE TO COMMEND EVERYBODY THAT'S INVOLVED. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE RFP WITH THE AMENDMENT FOR THE TEAM OF EVALUATORS AS WE DISCUSSED

EARLIER WITH MS. SUSAN. >> SECOND.

>> FOR DISCUSSION? >> YES, SIR.

>> FIRST OF ALL WANT TO THINK STAFF, TOO. I KNOW WE'VE COME A LONG WAYS ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE. AND WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE EMBARKING ON THAT EVEN OUR NEIGHBORS LEFT US OUT TO DRY, SO TO SPEAK. BUT THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. BEING ABLE TO PERFORM AND DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. DESPERATE TIMES WARRANT DESPERATE MEASURES. WE CAN DO IT ALL BY OURSELVES SOMETIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO REACH OUT AND DO A CHECK TO DO. YOU'D BE AMAZED WHAT WE HAVE WITHIN. YOU DON'T HAVE TO RELY ON OTHERS. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE EMBARKING ON ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS -- I THINK WERE GOING TO BE ALL RIGHT ON THIS ISSUE. YOU'VE

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DONE A GOOD JOB SO FAR. THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> THE ONE BIG THING IS THAT WE DIDN'T BORROW THE MONEY TO DO THIS. WE ARE NOT DEBT. WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY MORTGAGE ON THIS. SO OUR MONEY THAT WE PUT TOWARD ANIMAL CONTROL GOES TO THE ANIMALS AND THE CITIZENS AND I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST SUCCESS BOOKS WE'VE GOT A GREAT PARTNER IN ST. LUCIE COUNTY.

ARE WE READY TO VOTE? CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

>> (ROLL CALL) (ROLL CALL). >>MAYOR HUDSON: THANK YOU,

PEGGY. >> THE NEXT ITEM IS A

[b. Resolution 20-R29 Temporarily Reducing Planning Department Fees]

RESOLUTION OF CITY COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AMENDING BY RESOLUTION THE FILING FEES FOR DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS PURSUANT TO SECTION 22 Ã141. TO TEMPORARILY RELEASE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FEES AS SHOWN ON EXHIBIT A AND B THROUGH NOVEMBER 30, 2020 PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: IS HOFMEISTER. >> GOOD EVENING AMANDA MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS. TONIGHT WHAT I HAVE BEFORE YOU IS A RESOLUTION TO REDUCE CERTAIN PLANNING FEES FOR A PERIOD OF APPROXIMATELY SIX MONTHS TO NOVEMBER 30. THIS RESOLUTION WAS MODIFIED DUE TO YOUR DIRECTION TO AT THE JUNE 1 MEETING. I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING THERE BUT IT WAS MY SENIOR'S VIRTUAL GRADUATION. ONE DOWN ONE TO GO. SO, THE FIRST TIME I PRESENTED -- OR WAS PRESENTED TO YOU ALL, THERE WERE SOME -- SOME PLANNING FEES THAT WERE COMPLETELY WAIVED.

THEN WE ALSO INCLUDED SITE PLANS BEYOND 30,000 SQUARE FEET TO ALSO HAVE A REDUCTION. SO, STAFF WAS DIRECTED TO FURTHER EXTEND THE REDUCTION FOR NONRESIDENTIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.

BUT BEFORE I GET INTO THAT, THE WAY THAT I ORGANIZE THIS PRESENTATION WAS THE FIRST LIKE -- THERE'S ONLY TWO. THE FIRST ONE IS THOSE THAT ARE BEING SUSPENDED AND WHAT THOSE IMPACTS WILL BE IN A SIX-MONTH PERIOD AND THEN THE LATTER SLIDER THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN REDUCED. AND AGAIN, WHAT THEY COULD BE, BECAUSE THE REVENUE WE WOULD COLLECT IF WE DID NOT DO THIS REDUCTION IN THEN, WHAT WE ARE PROJECTING ON A SIX-MONTH BASIS. WHAT OUR LOSS WILL BE IN THE END. THE FIRST WE HAVE THREE. THERE WITH DIFFERENT COLORS BUT WE HAVE THE PREOP MEETING REVENUE, THE SIGNED PERMIT REVENUE AND THEN THE SIDEWALK CAFC THE REVENUE.

THE TOP IS WHAT WE COLLECTED IN A YEAR PERIOD FROM MAY 2019 TO MAY 2020.

THE SECOND LINE IS WHAT WE ARE PROJECTING ON A SIX-MONTH REVENUE BASIS, BASED ON WHAT WE RECEIVED IN THE PAST YEAR. WE PRETTY MUCH SPLIT IN HALF.

SO WHEN HE GETS TO THE SIDEWALK CAFCBE, WE ONLY COLLECTED FOR ONE OUTDOOR CAFC AND THAT WAS TACO DIVE ON THE BEACH. AND SO WE ARE ANTICIPATING -- WE JUST CUT THAT IN HALF SO THERE IS ZERO REVENUE THAT WE ARE PROJECTING. IT MAY NOT BE THE CASE BUT THAT'S WHAT WE ARE PROJECTING ON THIS -- THIS CHOICE OF HOW WE ARE DECIDING WHAT ARE REVENUE PROJECTIONS WOULD BE IN A SIX-MONTH PERIOD. SO BECAUSE ALL OF THESE ARE GOING TO BE SUSPENDED THE LAST TABLE SHOWS THAT WE WON'T BE RECEIVING ANY REVENUE FROM THESE THREE APPLICATIONS. AND THEN WE TOTALED UP FOR THE LOSSES WOULD BE PER APPLICATION. AND IN THE END WILL HAVE THE TOTAL LOSS ON THAT SIX-MONTH PERIOD.

THE SECOND SLIDER THE NONRESIDENTIAL SITE PLAN REVENUE AND THE RESIDENTIAL SITE PLAN REVENUE. AND LIKE I HAD INDICATED WITH THE FIRST PROPOSAL WAS FOR THE LARGER BUT NOW WERE TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION ALL THREE. AND WE WERE DIRECTED ON HOW WE WERE TO -- WHAT FIGURE WE WOULD COME UP WITH. AND WE KEPT IT AT THE 6995 BUT RATHER THAN ADDING IT $95 FOR EACH ADDITIONAL 1000 SQUARE-FOOT IT WAS KNOCKED DOWN TO 50 AND THAT'S FOR THE LARGER SITE PLANS. THE OTHER TWO -- THE SITE PLANS WOULD BE EITHER 2000 BASED ON A MIDDLE GROUND OR 1000. I WILL LOOK OVER AT THE RESIDENTIAL SITE PLAN REVENUE YOU'RE PROBABLY WONDERING WHY THERE WAS ZERO REVENUE COLLECTED AND THAT WAS DUE TO MOST OF OUR REVISED COMACK RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IS COMING AS DEVELOPMENT AND THERE'S A DIFFERENT LINE ITEM.

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IN THE FUTURE WE ARE HOPING TO DO MORE OF OUR RESIDENTIAL ESSAY STREET ZONING SO THAT IF THE PROJECT DOES NOT GO FORWARD, THEY HAVEN'T UNDERLINING ZONING DISTRICT.

PLAN DEVELOPMENTS ARE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR LARGE SCALE WHERE YOU'LL HAVE MORE OF A MIXED USE CLUSTERING DEVELOPMENT, MORE INNOVATIVE. WE HOPE TO SEE MORE RESIDENTIAL SITE PLAN REVENUE IN THE FUTURE. BUT AGAIN, THIS IS THE NEW FOCUS IN OUR PROJECTIONS ARE BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST YEAR. WHEN IT COMES TO THE NONRESIDENTIAL, WE SPLIT THAT IN HALF. IN A LOSS OF 3825. SO THE TOTAL LOSS FOR THE REDUCTION IN THE SUSPENSION IS ANTICIPATED TO BE JUST OVER 18,000. I KNOW THAT IT WAS DIRECTED TO LOOK BACK AND SEE HOW HISTORICALLY WE HAVE -- HOW WE CAME UP WITH THIS FEE. THERE WAS A NUMBER OF RESOLUTIONS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE WHEN IT COMES TO OUR BUDGET, BUT THE MOST SUSPENSION WAS DONE 11 YEARS AGO WHEN THE PREVIOUS PLANNING DIRECTOR DID AN EVALUATION BASED ON AN EIGHT COUNTY REVIEW AND A REVIEW OF ADJACENT MUNICIPALITIES PRIMARILY THE CITY OF PORT ST.

LUCIE. AND IT WAS DETERMINED THAT HE DID AN AVERAGE, HE DID A LOT OF STAFF REVIEW TIME AND WE FOLLOWED THE CITY OF PORT ST. LUCIE'S FEES. AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE UNUSUAL AS TO HOW THEY WERE SELECTED FOR NONRESIDENTIAL.

IT WENT FROM LOOKING AT NONRESIDENTIAL BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE. AND WE MIRRORED THE CITY OF PORT ST. LUCIE. THAT WAS 11 YEARS AGO. IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR FEE SCHEDULE NOW IT IS GREATER. WE HAVE NOT HAD AN EVALUATION OF OUR FEE SCHEDULE AND WE SHOULD. AND WE, AS STAFF, WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT WITH THE COMMISSION'S DIRECTION WHEN WE GO INTO THE SIX-MONTH -- WE GO BACK TO OUR NORMAL FEE SCHEDULE. BECAUSE THEY ARE -- THE FEE SCHEDULE IS BASED ON DIFFERENT SALARIES, A DIFFERENT NUMBER OF STAFF MEMBERS IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. AND WHEN WE DO THE SUSPENSION REDUCTION OF FEES, WE ARE SUBSIDIZING IT. WE ARE PUTTING THE COST OF DEVELOPMENT ON OUR TAXPAYERS RATHER THAN ON THE DEVELOPERS. SO ALTHOUGH RIGHT NOW WE WANT TO DO THIS TO ENCOURAGE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND GET PEOPLE IN AND SEEING OUR PREAMPS WE NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION BECAUSE THERE IS A COST TO DEVELOPMENT AND THAT BURDEN SHOULD BE PUT ON THE DEVELOPER BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE BRINGING IN THE PROJECT AND WILL BE RECEIVING REVENUE FROM IT.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: GOOD POINT. >> THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. IT'S GOOD AND SO, I'M GOING TO ENCOURAGE YOU -- AND MR. MIMBS, OF COURSE, TO RUN THE STUDY, A NEW STUDY BECAUSE IT'S 11 YEARS OLD ALREADY AND I COULD NOT REMEMBER IF IT WAS NINE OR 11 YEARS OLD. IT'S BEEN A WHILE. SO IS THAT THE BEST BASIS FOR CALCULATION BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE? AND SO I SAY THAT MAYBE MORE RHETORICAL THAN I DO JUST SAYING IS THAT THE RIGHT WAY.

>> IS PROFESSIONALLY ACCEPTED. BECAUSE YOU LOOKING AT THE BUILDING. IT'S A SQUARE FOOTAGE OF WHAT THAT INTENSITY WILL BRING TO THE SITE, WHETHER -- THE CURRENCY IMPACT THE ARCHITECTURE ALL OF THAT RATHER THAN JUST THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY.

>> I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. AND I'M LOOKING HERE AND WHILE IT WORRIES ME TO SAY TOTAL LOSS, WE ARE PROJECTING WHAT OUR REVENUES ARE GOING TO BE EVERY SINGLE TIME WE DO A

BUDGET. >> RIGHT.

>> JUST PROJECTING A NUMBER. >> WE DON'T KNOW. OR NOT. AND THE STIMULUS PACKAGE THAT WE PUT TOGETHER, ABOUT A MONTH AGO OR A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO FOR THE COVID 19 RESPONSE, $18,000 IN ECONOMIC DEVELOP AN OPPORTUNITY IS A MINIMAL INVESTMENT FOR NUMBERS WE'RE NOT EVEN SURE OF YET FOR A LONG-TERM BENEFIT. SO I APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION. THIS IS GOOD INFORMATION.

>> MCNAMARA COMMISSIONERS YOU SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED. WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING A LOT OF PRE-APPLICATIONS EVEN PRIOR TO WHAT WERE PROPOSING HERE REDUCTIONS. THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST AND ACTIVITY IN DEVELOPING THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE.

>> AND THEN THE SIX MONTHS WILL GIVE YOU TIME TO STUDY WHAT -- WHEN YOU COME BACK TO US WHAT YOU WANT TO RECOMMEND IN TERMS OF FEES.

>> YES. BECAUSE THERE ARE FEES WILL THAT ARE SO LOW LIKE OURS TO FORGET OF APPROPRIATENESS, WHERE THAT GOES BEFORE A QUASIJUDICIAL HEARING, A LOT OF WORK GOES INTO THAT. IT'S $10.

OKAY. COMMISSIONER PERONA?

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>> IT'S MORE OF AN INVESTMENT THAT WILL COME BACK TO US. YOU LOOK AT IT AS A COMPLETE LOSS I KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK AT IT FROM A LINE ITEM PERSPECTIVE, BUT REALLY, IT'LL COME BACK TO US AS FOLKS MAY BE ENCOURAGED TO BILTMORE, DO THINGS AND IT ENCOURAGES THAT TAX BASE AND EVERYTHING ELSE PLUS IT HELPS THE COMMUNITY AT THE SAME TIME.

>> WE WILL BE MAKING NOTE OF THIS ON OUR WEBSITE ON THE WEBPAGE SO THAT PEOPLE DO KNOW THAT WE ARE DOING THIS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.

>> THIS IS AN IMPORTANT GESTURE THAT WERE MAKING TO TELL PEOPLE WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS AND WE WANT THEM TO COME TO FORT PIERCE. COMMISSIONER SESSIONS?

>> THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US. I MEAN, BEFORE THE PANDEMIC CAME INTO PLACE, WE WERE DOING EXTREMELY WELL IN TERMS OF NEW CONSTRUCTION. AND ACTUALLY SETTING RECORDS IN TERMS OF BUILDING PERMITS BEING PULLED FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE IS HISTORY. PEOPLE STARTED BUILDING HERE. AND A LOT OF IT IS GOING ON OUT WEST OF TOWN.

AND THIS IS AN INCENTIVE FOR US. I MEAN, FOR SO LONG NOW, PEOPLE HAVE WANTED TO LIVE IN PORT ST. LUCIE, BUT WORKING FORT PIERCE AND WEST PALM BEACH. AND THIS IS A MOVEMENT TOWARDS ACTUALLY EXPANDING OUR TAX BASE AND MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE START TO BUILD HERE. SO THE TIMING IS GOOD. UNLIKE YOU SAY, WE'VE GOT TO GET THE WORD OUT THAT WE ARE DOING GREAT THINGS HERE. AND SO WE CAN START GETTING -- AND CONTINUE WHAT WE STARTED AT LEAST BECAUSE WE WERE CUT OFF THERE FOR A WHILE WITH THE VIRUS GOING ON. BUT THAT'S WHAT IS VITAL FOR US TO GET BACK TO WORK AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO START BUILDING AND SPEND MONEY. EVEN WITH CLEVELAND CLINIC, WITH THAT BIG PROJECT GOING ON DOWN THERE WHERE THEY'LL BE HIRING ALL OF THESE DOCTORS COMING IN NATIONWIDE. WE WANT THEM TO BUILD AND LIVE HERE. SO THIS IS GOOD. AND IT'S AN INCENTIVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY COME HERE. THANK YOU.

>> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER? >> I'M LISTENING.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: ALL RIGHT. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY ABOUT THIS BEFORE WE MAKE A

MOTION? >> OF LISTENING.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY. ALREADY. ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION?

>> I MOVED TO APPROVE THE SUBMITTED.

>> SECOND. >>MAYOR HUDSON: MOTION AND A

SECOND ANY DISCUSSION? >>MAYOR HUDSON: CALL THE ROLL,

PLEASE. >> (ROLL CALL)

>> (ROLL CALL). >>MAYOR HUDSON: GOOD NEWS.

[c. Follow-up discussion and direction regarding resuming special event permitting and facility rentals.]

>> NEXT WE HAVE THE FOLLOW-UP DISCUSSION RESUMING SPECIAL EVENT PERMITTING AND RENTAL.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: I SEE MR. REAL IS COMING.

>> GOOD EVENING. AT THE CONFERENCE AGENDA YOU DIRECTED STAFF TO DRAFT A DOCUMENT FOR HOLDING SPECIAL EVENTS AT OUR PUBLIC PROPERTIES. THE STAFF LOOKED TO OUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES TO SEE WHAT OTHERS WERE DOING AND CAME UP WITH THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU ON YOUR SCREEN. THIS DOCUMENT WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THE SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT.

AND AS WAS DISCUSSED AT THE CONFERENCE AGENDA, THIS WOULD PUT THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE GUIDELINES ON THE EVENT HOLDER. SO IT FOLLOWS THE FLORIDA STATE GUIDELINES AS WELL AS CDC AND AGAIN, WE LOOKED AT WHAT OUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES WERE DOING, MADE SURE WHAT WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER IS IN LINE WITH OTHERS AND I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: SO THIS WOULD BE ANYBODY WHO WOULD WANT TO USE A CITY FACILITY FOR AN EVENT WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW THESE GUIDELINES?

>> CORRECT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: AND YOUR STAFF WOULD HAVE TO -- I WILL TELL YOU THIS, I'VE HEARD FROM BOTH THE FARMERS MARKET AND THE JAZZ MARKET, AND THEY ARE DESPERATE TO RETURN TO THEIR VENUES. AND THEY WANT TO ABIDE BY WHATEVER THEY NEED TO ABIDE BY BECAUSE -- WHEREAS THE FARMERS MARKET IS RELOCATED, IT IS NOT -- IT

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IS NOT AS SUCCESSFUL AND NOT AS STRONG AS MANY PATRONS OR VENDORS AND THEY WOULD LOVE TO COME BACK TO THE WATERFRONT IN THE JAZZ SOCIETY WAS IN DESPERATE STRAIGHTS, TOO. SO THEY ARE -- AND ESPECIALLY THE FARMERS MARKET HAS BEEN FOLLOWING THESE GUIDELINES, WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED NOW. THIS WOULD NOT BE A HARDSHIP ON THEM. SO COMMISSIONER PERONA YOU WOULD ASK FOR THESE GUIDELINES AND.

>> YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND I KNOW THAT THE TWO ENTITIES THAT YOU DISCUSSED WOULD YOU EVERYTHING THAT IS ON THIS LIST. THERE HAS BEEN A RESURGENCE IN FLORIDA AND IT'S A LITTLE DISTURBING TO ME AND I'M TRYING TO GET PAST THAT. WHEN YOU HAVE RULES AND REGULATIONS AND POLICIES, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY THAT CAN ENFORCE THOSE AND MAKE SURE THE BEING DONE. THIS IS A LIFE-AND-DEATH SITUATION. IF YOU DON'T PROVIDE FOR ANY TYPE OF ENFORCEMENT OR DO YOU HAVE THAT BUILT INTO THEIR.

>> WITH WHAT IS PRESENTED HERE, WE WOULD NOT BE GOING OUT AND DOING ANY CHECKING ON THE SITE

ITSELF. >> I'M CONFIDENT THAT THE VENDORS THEMSELVES -- I KNOW MANY OF THEM. THEY WILL PROBABLY BE BETTER AT ENFORCING

THEM THAT ARE ENFORCEMENT. >> BOTH OF THEM HAVE MANAGERS AND THE MANAGERS WOULD HAVE TO DEAL ENFORCING.

>> I WOULD JUST SAY FOR THE END OF THE DAY THAT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE OPENED UP THESE TYPE OF FACILITIES AND ENCOURAGE -- IT ALMOST ENCOURAGE THE RESURGENCE OF THE PANDEMIC. I JUST WANT TO BE CAUTIOUS ON THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WERE DOING EVERYTHING WE POSSIBLY CAN. THERE ARE A LOT OF COMMUNITIES THAT ARE OPENING UP AND ENCLOSING I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THAT FORMAT, TOO BECAUSE IT TAKES SO MUCH ENERGY AND PLANNING TO PUT THESE THINGS ON. IF WE ARE GOING TO OPEN IT UP, WERE GOING TO OPEN IT UP. THAT NEEDS TO BE PART

OF THE DISCUSSION. >> I ECHO YOUR CONCERNS BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE ENFORCE THESE RULES, THAT WE ARE NOT JUST CREATING SOMETHING AND JUST WALKING AWAY. THE ME TELL YOU WHY, THE NUMBERS -- AS FAR AS THIS VIRUS IS, IS HIGHER THAN IT WAS IN THE BEGINNING. NEVERTHELESS, AMERICA HAS CHOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH BUSINESS AS USUAL. BUT, REST ASSURED, THE ISSUE OF THE EXISTENCE OF THIS VIRUS EXISTS GREATER NOW THAT IT WAS THE BEGINNING. HOWEVER, PEOPLE IN TALLAHASSEE OF MADE A DECISION THAT WE GET BACK TO NORMAL AND THE MUNICIPALITIES ARE, FOR THE MOST PART, DOING SO, BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, THIS IS NOT TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLY. IF THIS IS AN INDICATION TO THE PUBLIC THAT THINGS ARE GETTING BETTER I'M SAYING IT FOR THE RECORD HERE TONIGHT, IT'S NOT. IT'S GETTING WORSE. SO PLEASE, IF WE CAN ENFORCE THIS STUFF, I HOPE WE DO WITH THE HELP OF POLICE, WITH THE HELP OF THE VENDORS, WHATEVER, BUT JUST BY THESE PRACTICES AND PROCEDURES, TRUST ME THERE'S NO INDICATION OF WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE IN SERIOUS TROUBLE HERE. SO WE

HAVE TO BE CAREFUL HERE. >> IF YOU RECALL, AT THE MEETING, IT WAS DISCUSSED THAT THE EVENT HOLDER WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PRESENT A PLAN TO US, MUCH LIKE HER HAVING TO PRESENT TO THE GOVERNOR FOR OUR REVIEW. OUR STAFF WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AND MAKE SURE THAT WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS WITHIN REASON FOR THE GUIDELINES AND THEN ON THEIR RENT, THEY WILL SIGN THIS DOCUMENT THAT YOU ARE ACKNOWLEDGING WHAT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE.

>> I APPRECIATE THE INFO. AND I AGREE. COMMISSIONER, IT'S -- WE ARE CHANGING THE WAY WE DO BUSINESS EVERY SINGLE DAY AS LOCAL AND COMMUNITY FOLKS AND IS OUT THERE. IT'S DEFINITELY OUT THERE. THE NUMBERS HAVE INCREASED IN THE LAST SEVEN DAYS MORE THAN EVER. AND IT SHOWS YOU HOW IMPORTANT AND FRAGILE WE ARE AT THE SAME TIME. IF WE FOCUS ON IT THAT WE COMMIT TO THE PROCEDURES AND IF WE NEED TO CHANGE IT BECAUSE WE SEE SOMETHING CHANGING IN OUR COMMUNITY, THAT WE CAN CHANGE THAT. WE DO THIS WITH CAUTION -- A CAUTIOUS ATTITUDE AND PERSPECTIVE. AND I APPRECIATE THE INFO AND I THINK IT IS A GOOD SET OF GUIDELINES AND IT'S JUST THAT AND WE CAN CHANGE IT IF WE NEEDED.

>> LET'S WATCH IT. LET'S KEEP A MICROSCOPE ON THIS ACTIVITY BECAUSE WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW

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IS WE ARE REOPENING THE DOORS AND IT APPEARS THAT IT'S WITH OUR APPROVAL BECAUSE WERE SAYING YOU CAN DO BUSINESS AS USUAL. SO WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ENFORCE IT AND IF ISSUES START TO ARISE WE NEED TO BE THE FIRST ONES MADE AWARE OF IT SO WE CAN TAKE IT AWAY AND GO BACK TO CLOSING DOWN IF NEED BE. I DON'T CARE WHAT GOES ON THROUGHOUT THE STATE BUT I CARE ABOUT WHAT GOES ON HERE. IF WE GET IN A PREDICAMENT WHERE WE NEED TO ADDRESS THIS AND SHUT THINGS DOWN FOR THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF THE CITIZENS,

THAT WE NEED TO DO SO. >> I'LL CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT A LEASE FOR THE FARMERS MARKET IN THE JAZZ MARKET THERE OUTDOORS. AND SO ARE THE PAVILIONS. SO IT'S AN OUTSIDE -- AND SO PEOPLE ARE GATHERING RIGHT NOW ON OUR BEACHES AND GATHERING AND OTHER PLACES. SO I THINK THAT WITH THE PROPER PRECAUTIONS, THAT WE CAN -- AND THIS IS SUMMERTIME. HER SMALLER EVENTS, SMALLER NUMBER OF VENDORS AND SMALLER NUMBER OF PATRONS IN THE SUMMERTIME. SO I FEEL LIKE THAT THIS IS -- THERE WILLING TO FOLLOW THE CDC GUIDELINES AND BE RESPONSIBLE. AND BELIEVE ME, AT LEAST I KNOW FOR THE FARMERS MARKET, THEY ARE VERY -- THEY FOLLOWED POLICIES. THEY DO WHAT THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT'S REALLY -- THE MARKETS REPUTATION IS AT STAKE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DO THIS AS SOON AS YOUR STAFF CAN DO THIS. I DO HAVE A TIME IN MIND?

>> THAT A MAYOR? >> YES, SIR.

>> WHAT I CAUTION IS ABOUT I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY -- COMMISSIONER JOHNSON COMMUTED, BUT HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY PUT EMPHASIS ON THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAD JUST GOTTEN IN THE LAST THREE OR FOUR DAYS -- SEVEN DAYS. AND WE JUST CANNOT WALK THROUGH THIS PANDEMIC AND JUST THINK IS GOING AWAY. WELL, I'M AGREEING ALSO OF OPENING UP, BUT I -- I DO NOT SEE -- I DO NOT SEE THE CRUCIAL -- I DON'T SEE US BEING CRUCIAL IN OUR INTENT TO OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC WITHOUT SAFETY PRECAUTIONS. NOW ARE WE SAYING THAT ONLY THE VENDORS HAVE TO MASKS WHATEVER? I ASSURE YOU, A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL NOT BE COMING OUT OF THEIR HOUSE UNLESS THEY HAVE A MASK ON. AND I APPLAUD THAT. I'M THANKFUL. EVERY TIME I SEE ONE, I'M VERY THANKFUL. IF YOU'RE DRIVING THE CAR OR WALKING DOWN THE STREET BECAUSE HERE'S A PERSON WALKING DOWN THE STREET BY HIMSELF. HE SHOULD BE WORRIED. BUT IF YOU KNOW HOW -- AND WHAT OUR NUMBERS ARE THEY'RE GROWING EVERY DAY NOW. SINCE OUR LAST MEETING, YOU KNOW, AND IT IS CRUCIAL. WE'VE GOT TO PAY ATTENTION TO THEM. IT'S NOT GONNA GET BETTER. IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: OKAY. YES, SIR.

>> I THINK THERE WAS A QUESTION -- I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. SWEENEY, DID YOU GET THE ANSWER ON THE TIMELINE? WHAT EXISTS. I DON'T THINK I DID.

>> RIVERWALK STAFF IS READY TO GO FORWARD. THE ONLY QUESTION WILL BE ROUTING THEM THROUGH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND GETTING APPROVAL FROM THEM. THE FARMERS MARKET, THE JAZZ MARKET, THE JAZZ ON THE GREEK, THOSE ARE PRETTY ROUTINE EVENTS. WE COULD MOVE THOSE ALONG QUICKLY. ANY NEW EVENTS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ON THE BOOKS, THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO GO TO THE PROPER PERMITTING PROCEDURE WHICH REQUIRES 30 DAYS FOR APPROVAL. THE ONES ON THE BOOKS THAT WERE PLANNED, I BELIEVE WE COULD IMPLEMENT AT THE DISCRETION OF THE COMMISSION WHEN YOU'D LIKE TO START.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. SWEENEY.

>> YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THIS AND ARE PRETTY MUCH IN LINE WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FROM OUR CDC IN OUR GOVERNOR, SPECIFICALLY? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE SHOULD BE

WORRIED ABOUT IN YOUR OPINION? >> AS LONG AS WE ARE IN

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CONFORMANCE WITH THOSE POSITIONS, GENERALLY SPEAKING, THAT'S THE SAFEST THAT WE COULD DO. THERE'S TWO ASPECTS. THERE'S THE ASPIRATIONAL ASPECT HELPING EVERYBODY COMPLIES WITH AND THEN THERE IS THE REALITY AND I THINK WE SPOKE TO THAT.

>> APPRECIATED. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER

PERONA. >> HAD TO FOLLOW-UP, MR. SWEENEY OF BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH THAT I CAN START READING A SENTENCE AND KNOW THAT YOUR HANDS ARE ALL OVER IT. SO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE HAS THE RIGHT TO CANCEL OR SHUT DOWN THE EVENT ALREADY IN PROCESS BASED ON ANY CAPITALIZED -- WHICH IS YOUR THUMBPRINT RIGHT THERE. VIOLATION TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE APPROVED PLAN. SO IT'S GOING THE WRONG WAY, IS OUT OF CONTROL, WE CAN SHUT THAT DOWN WITHOUT ANY TYPE OF LEGAL

REMEDY, THAT YOU KNOW OF. >> I THINK THAT IT HAS BEEN STRUCTURED IN A WAY TO ALLOW US TO EXECUTE IN THAT MANNER. AND MIKE, IT'S REAL SCUM'S EXPERIENCE IS INVALUABLE. HE'S BEEN DEALING WITH THESE VENDORS FOR MANY YEARS. I SUPPOSE WE MAY HAVE A NEW ACTOR THAT WOULD WANT TO COME IN THAT IS NOT AS FAMILIAR AND THAT COULD PRESENT A PROBLEM BUT THAT'S IN ANY SITUATION WE HAVE SOMETHING SLIGHTLY NEW OR DIFFERENT.

THIS GIVES US THE BEST ABILITY TO DO THAT. HOWEVER, LET ME CAUTION. THERE'S ASPIRATIONAL AND THEN THERE'S REALITY. IF THIS IS AN EVENT THAT SOMEHOW GROWS TO A THOUSAND PEOPLE IN A MATTER OF HOURS, I DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO SHUT THAT DOWN AND I'LL BELIEVE MIKE'S OFFICE DOES THAT I DO NOT KNOW THAT THE COMBINATION OF THE POLICE AND CODE ENFORCEMENT HAVE THE ABILITY TO SHUT DOWN SOMETHING THAT BIG WORRY TO GET OUT OF CONTROL BUT THAT COULD EVOLVE IN ANY GIVEN CIRCUMSTANCE. I BELIEVE THIS IS THE BEST LANGUAGE THAT COULD BE CRAFTED

FOR THIS TYPE OF SITUATION. >> IN FOLLOW-UP, THAT'S THE LEVEL OF COMFORT THAT I NEED TO GET BECAUSE WE HAVE THE RESURGENCE GOING ON AND I KNOW THERE'S AN ECONOMIC FACTOR OUT THERE AND THERE'S PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GET BACK TO WORK AND DOING WHAT THEY DO AND HAVE FUN AND THE FORT PIERCE OPEN AREA AND EITHER PARTIES OR JAZZ FESTIVALS OR ALL THE THINGS THAT HAPPEN AND ALL THINGS THAT WE'VE COME ACCUSTOMED FORT PIERCE, BUT WE DO HAVE TO HAVE THAT LANGUAGE IN OUR LEASE TO BE ABLE TO PULL -- JUST TO PULL IT WHEN HE GETS OUT OF CONTROL AND THAT'S THE ONLY COMFORT THAT I HAVE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER PERONA?

>> AMIN COMMISSIONER SESSIONS. SORRY.

>> HE'S PRETTIER THAN I AM. >> OLDER THAN YOU.

>> YES. >> YOU BRING UP AN INTERESTING POINT. ATTORNEY SWEENEY, AND I KEPT HEARING HIM SAY I DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY IN THIS ONE DOESN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY. AND AS WE DO THIS WE NEED SOMEBODY WITH SOME AUTHORITY TO SHUT IT DOWN IF WE NEED TO. SO WE DON'T GO ANYWHERE FROM HERE TONIGHT OTHER THAN KNOWING WHO IS THE DESIGNATED PERSON WITH THE AUTHORITY TO SHUT IT DOWN, THE LET'S DO THAT BECAUSE IF THIS GETS OUT OF HAND AND IT CAN BE TRACKED BACK WITH A CLUSTER FROM US, WHEN THEY DO THIS TRACKING BECAUSE TRUST ME, THE TRACKING THEY DO IS THOROUGH. AND IF OUR NAME IS OVERAGE OR ON TOP OF IT WE DON'T NEED IT TRACKED BACK TO US. WHO'S GOING TO HAVE THE AUTHORITY I THINK YOU SAID THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, CODE ENFORCEMENT? ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE THE AUTHORITY TO KUAN WATCH THE SAND OR SOMEBODY WILL CALL US COLLECTIVELY AND LET US KNOW WE NEED TO ESTABLISH YOU AS THE AUTHORITY.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: MR. RIOS? >> I WAS HOPING THAT MR. MIMBS

WOULD BE ABLE TO ASSIST ME. >> THEORY IS.

>> YOU NEED ASSISTANCE. >> YOU NEED TO ASK US -- ASKED

HIM UP TO THE POORLY. >> MR. MIMBS.

>> HIS DESIGNEE. >> I WANT YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING, WERE TALKING ABOUT FACILITY RENTALS. IF WE ARE RENTING A FACILITY, AND THERE ARE SUPPOSEDLY 50 PEOPLE IN THEIR 125 SHOW UP, WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE STANDING AT THE DOOR WITH A COUNTER. IF -- SO THIS IS HARD TO SAY YES. WE WILL SHUT THESE PEOPLE DOWN.

ONCE YOU OPEN IT UP YOU HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE CONSEQUENCES. I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT. WE RECENTLY DID TESTING AND OUR FIRST GROUP OF TESTS -- I THINK WE HAD A

TWO PERCENT. >> RATE.

>> OUR CURRENT TEST WE HAD A 10 PPERCENT INFECTION RATE. SO OU NUMBERS ARE CLIMBING. WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO, I MEAN -- I CAN'T PUT THAT ON MIKE. MIKE DOESN'T HAVE THE STAFF TO LOOK AT EVERY PARK OR FACILITY RENTAL. WE DON'T HAVE THOSE TYPE OF RESOURCES. SO IF WE OPEN UP WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WE ARE GOING TO OPEN

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IT UP. >>MAYOR HUDSON: HAVE YOU BEEN

DOWNTOWN FORT PIERCE LATELY? >> YES. YES.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: NO PARKING'S SPACES -- THIS IS IN THE OPEN AIR. THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FOLLOW THE PROCEDURES. I MEAN THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON. THIS IS NOT A MAKE OR BREAK THE SPIKE IN MY OPINION, IN MY OPINION. BUT

THAT IS. >> THAT YOUR OPINION AND I HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION BECAUSE THAT I FOUND OUT HIS AIR HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PANDEMIC. AIR IS GOD-GIVEN A MAN BUT THIS PANDEMIC, IT WALKS RIGHT THROUGH AIR JUST LIKE IT WALK-THROUGH BUILDINGS. AND ANYWHERE THAT YOU MAY GO. AND MR. MIMBS, FOR GOING TO OPEN THIS UP, THAT I THINK YOU NEED TO DESIGNATE A PERSON, SOMEBODY LIKE IF YOU RECEIVE A CALL AND SOMEBODY NEEDS TO MAKE A CALL. AND FOR US TO SAY THAT WE WON'T HAVE CONTROL OF SHUTTING IT DOWN, AS KINDA SAD BECAUSE THINGS LIKE THIS CAN BLOSSOM QUICKLY. YOU KNOW YOU SAY 150 IT MIGHT GO TO 250. WHAT WE CAN DO AN ESSAY I TOLD HIM NOT TO DO THAT?

>>MAYOR HUDSON: BUT WE -- WE'VE ALREADY OPENED UP THE STREET -- WILL EXTEND, EXPANDED THE STREET, THE SPACES FOR BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN TO BE ABLE TO ATTRACT PEOPLE TO GO TO

THOSE BUSINESSES. >> UNDERSTAND I AGREE WITH YOU.

I GO ALONG WITH YOU, BUT I STILL SAY EACH ONE OF US HAS AN OPINION ABOUT IT AND AGAIN, THE OPINION IS THAT WE HAVE GOT TO BE CAUTIOUS. WE CANNOT BE JUST WALKING DOWN JUST WILLY-NILLY WALKING DOWN THE STREET THINKING NOTHING IS GOING TO TOUCH YOU. YOU MAY BE TRAVELING IN THE RAIN DROPS TO GET CAUGHT UP IN THE RAIN. YOU NEVER KNOW. BUT, FOR US TO JUST THROW OUR HANDS IN THE AIR AND SAY WHAT WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING, YES. WE'VE GOT TO

BE CAUTIOUS. THAT'S IT. >>MAYOR HUDSON: COMMISSIONER

SESSIONS? >> I WAS RELUCTANT AND THAT'S WHAT THE MEETINGS ARE ALL ABOUT INFORMATION. MAYBE WE NEED TO RECONSIDER THIS. THE MAYOR, YOU ARE RIGHT. PEOPLE ARE OUT DOWNTOWN AND THAT WAS THE PROBLEM AT JC PARK. WE'RE THE ONLY ONES IN TOWN WE HAVE AN ATTRACTION THAT'S GOING TO BRING PEOPLE FROM PALM BEACH, PORT ST. LUCIE, VERO, ALL OVER. THE FARMERS MARKET IS RANKING ONE TIME IN THE NATION TOP -- BUT I KNOW WE ARE MAKING NEWS YOU'RE ONE OF THE TOP FARMERS MARKETS IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AS SOON AS WE OPEN UP REST ASSURED, THEY WILL BE ON TOP OF EACH OTHER. IF WERE GOING TO DO THIS, THEN I WANT TO DESIGNATE SOMEBODY WITH THE AUTHORITY TO SHUT IT DOWN. SO IF I HAVE A POLICE DEPARTMENT, CITY MANAGER A CITY ATTORNEY, A DEPARTMENT HEAD AND NOBODY WANTS TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY, THAT THIS BOARD NEEDS TO APPOINT SOMEBODY BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH DOING THIS IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY MONITORING THE SITUATION. AND IF IT MEANS SHUTTING IT DOWN IN LIGHT OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES, THEN WE NEED

TO DO IT. >> WHAT WE WILL DO IF THIS IS YOUR DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SPECIAL EVENTS AND FACILITY RENTALS ALL HAVE A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WITH A DESIGNATED NUMBER FOR FOLKS CALL ME WORK ON THE WEEKENDS AND THEY WILL RESPOND. IF WE NEED TO STOP AN EVENT, THEN WE WILL CALL THE FORT PIERCE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO ASSIST THAT INDIVIDUAL AFTER THEY DO THEIR INSPECTION. IF THAT IS WHAT YOU ELECTED TO DO, THAT IS HOW WE WILL STRUCTURE IT. BUT THERE WILL BE

ADDITIONAL COST, SO. >> WHAT ABOUT THE VENDORS? THEY NEED TO PAY THE COST IF THEY WANT THE BUSINESS. LET THEM PAY THE POLICE THE EXTRA MONEY TO WHOM MUCH IS GIVEN MUCH IS EXPECTED. NOT THE TAXPAYERS. THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY THE COST OF THE FARMERS MARKET DOING BUSINESS. WHY DON'T THEY INCUR THE EXTRA COST IF IT'S GOING TO COST MORE FOR THE STAFF TO BE APPOINTED OR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THAT

MAKES SENSE TO ME. >> THE YOUNG MAN THAT CAME

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BEFORE US AND THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB, BUT I'M AFRAID OF THAT. THEY'RE GOING TO DO TOO GOOD OF A JOB OF ORGAN HAVE ISSUES AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO GET SICK I'M GOING TO GET SICK AND PEOPLE FROM PALM BEACH ARE GOING TO GET HERE AND WILL CONTINUE TO GO THE WAY IT'S GOING. WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT. LIKE I SAID EARLIER, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING. WHAT I HAVE CONTROL OVER IS THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS, WE WILL HAVE ENFORCEMENT, NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, SOMEBODY TO MONITOR THE SITUATION IF IT GETS OUT OF HAND BECAUSE WE HAVE TOO MANY VARIABLES SURROUNDING US THAT WE DO NOT HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT COULD BE VERY DETRIMENTAL FOR EVERYBODY IN HERE.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: IN THE SUMMERTIME, THE MARKET IS MUCH SMALLER THAN IT IS IN SEASON.

THE VENDORS ARE FEWER. I -- YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T -- I JUST BELIEVE THAT WE ARE FOCUSING ON THIS PARTICULAR -- THESE PARTICULAR PERMITS WHEN THE WORLD IS OPENING BACKUP GRADUALLY. AND SO, I JUST DON'T SEE IT. I SEE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE EVENT PERMIT HOLDERS TO POLICE THEMSELVES AND UNDERSTAND. IF YOU READ ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DO, AND THAT THERE ENCOURAGING THE PATRONS TO WEAR MASKS, I JUST -- I DON'T SEE IT AS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE MONITORED AND SOMEBODY TO BE -- I DON'T THINK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO SHUT ANYBODY DOWN. I DON'T SEE IT. I THINK WERE MAKING MUCH ADO ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IF THIS IS ONLY A SMALL PART OF THE WHOLE CITY.

>> ONLY PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT WE ONLY MEET EACH AND EVERY OTHER WEEK. AS YOU KNOW, TOMORROW IT COULD BE A SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ARE EXIGENT AND AGAIN, IT'S AT HAND. I THINK WE NEED TO BE MORE PROACTIVE THAN REACTIVE SITTING FROM THIS CAPACITY. I'M ANXIOUS, AS YOU ARE TO TRY TO MAKE THINGS AS NORMAL AS POSSIBLE.

>> THESE ARE SMALL BUSINESSES JUST LIKE THE SMALL BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN. THESE ARE BUSINESSES THAT NEED TO GET BACK IN BUSINESS COMMISSIONER JOHNSON?

>> MR. MIMBS, IF THERE'S A SPECIAL EVENT REMOVE COVID 19 PER MINUTE. WHAT POCEDURES ARE IN PLACE AND WHAT ECONOMIC PLAN IS THERE IN PLACE FOR OUR CAUSE TO BE COVERED OR SERENITY. AN EVENT SUCH AS SOMETHING GOING ON AT THE -- AT THE MARINA SQUARE SOMETHING OF

THAT NATURE. >> ARE TALKING ABOUT THE EVENT FEE STRUCTURE? I'LL DEFER THAT TO MR. REALS.

>> THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE HAS NOT USE THEIR OWN FORCES AND UTILIZING EVENTS ON A REGULAR BASIS. SINCE THE DOWNTURN OF THE ECONOMY WHAT WE DO, IF AN EVENT NEEDS A FEE, THEY NEED A GARBAGE CAN OR SEVERE THINGS LIKE THAT. ALL THE COST THAT GOES INTO ALL OF IT, IT ISN'T COVERED BY CURRENT FEES NOW THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE SO MANY EVENTS.

>> ALL RIGHT. THAT GETS US DEEPER. THE OTHER QUESTION I BET IS IF THERE IS A PROBLEM IN AN EVENT WHO THEY CONTACT. WAS THE ONE 800-NUMBER IS IT YOUR NUMBER?

>> NO, SIR. IF THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH AN EVENT OR CALLING 911.

>> OKAY. SO THAT'S IN PLACE ALREADY SO OUR RESPONSE EFFORT IS THROUGH THE POLICE

DEPARTMENT. >> THOSE ARE FOR EMERGENCIES.

YES, SIR. >> OKAY. SO IS A RARITY I THINK WHAT THE MAYOR IS TALKING ABOUT THAT WE HAVE A COMPLAINT ABOUT AN EVENT AT A CERTAIN TIME WE HAVE TO GO INTO THE AGREEMENT DIG INTO IT.

>> THAT'S A PRETTY RARE HAPPENING, CORRECT.

>> VERY RARE. SO THE FOLKS THAT ARE HEADING UP THE EVENTS ARE RESPONSIBLE AND ORGANIZED.

THEY ARE IN TUNE WITH WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THEIR VETERANS AND PATRONS AND THAT'S MY POINT. I THINK COMMISSIONER SESSIONS TALKED ABOUT MAKING SURE THE TAXPAYERS ARE NOT FUNDING THAT AT THE SAME TIME. SO MY LAST QUESTION IS FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS PERSPECTIVE STREET CLEANUP, GARBAGE CAN EMPTYING. DO WE HAVE EXTRA FORCES ON THE GROUND DURING THE WEEKENDS TO

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DO THAT OR ARE THERE REGULARLY SCHEDULE SHIFTS THAT COVER THOSE DAYS SO WOULD YOU SHOW UP ON MONDAY AND TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS?

>> OUR PARKS AND PUBLIC AREAS ON THE WEEKENDS ARE PATROLLED MORE HEAVILY AND PICKED UP.

BUT IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE EVENT HOLDER TO HANDLE ALL THEIR OWN TRASH.

>> THANKFULLY, WE DO HAVE FOLKS THAT GET OUT THERE VERY EARLY TO INCLUDE OUR VOLUNTEERS IN OUR COMMUNITY. WERE NOT FOR VOLUNTEERS WE COULD NOT KEEP UP WITH THE AMOUNT OF TRASH AND DEBRIS FROM THESE EVENTS AND ALSO, JUST PARK PATRONS. SO THE COST TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE TO HELP SPONSOR AN EVENT OR SUPPORTING EVENT DOES NOT COME CLOSE TO TO WHAT OUR STAFF EXERTS. WE INSPIRE FOLKS TO COME AND BRING EVENTS TO OUR COMMUNITY HAS ACTIVITY GENERATORS. WE BEEN DOING THAT FOR YEARS. IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR US TO HAVE A BALANCING GAME OF THE EXACT COST IS MET WITH OUR PERMITTING FEES, IT DOES NOT. WITHOUT A DOUBT.

>> NOT WITHOUT US REDOING THE FEES AND DOING A FULL EVALUATION IN CHANGE IT UP. SO -- I SEE BOTH SIDES. AT THIS POINT, IF SOMETHING GOES AWRY AT AN EVENT, WE RESPOND AND WE DEAL WITH EVENT ORGANIZERS THE CONTACT POINT THE PERSON INSIDE THE PAPER. WE TAKE YOUR BUSINESS. AGAIN, A RARE CIRCUMSTANCE. THESE FOLKS LIKE I SAID THERE ORGANIZED, AND THEY ARE IN TUNE WITH WHAT IS HAPPENING. BY THE WAY, IF SOMETHING GOES BACKWARDS, SORRY. YOU CANNOT COME BACK ANYMORE. SOMETIMES THAT'S WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN. THAT'S A STRONG HAND BUT THAT IS WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN. SO I DON'T SEE IS ANY DIFFERENT IF THINGS WERE TO GO UPSIDE DOWN TODAY -- PRE-COVID 19. WE HAD TO RESPOND BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

>> I'M JUST CONCERNED BECAUSE WHEN YOU CALL 911 FOR EMERGENCY AND SOCIAL DISTANCING IS NOT A RULE OR LAW IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ENFORCE. I'M NOT SURE YOU CAN: SAVE GOT 72

PEOPLE STANDING TOGETHER. >> BUT I BET YOU PEOPLE HAVE

TRIED IT (LAUGHING). >> IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE IN A ROUNDABOUT WAY TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING. GIVE US A RECOMMENDATION WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND YOU WANT US TO DO THIS OR NOT. TALK TO US I MEAN COME ON. LET US KNOW WAS GOING ON IN YOUR MIND. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE AROUND THE BUSH I KNOW YOU GOT SOMEONE I NEED YOUR PROFESSIONAL. IS IT OKAY FOR US TO OPEN THIS UP? LET ME TAKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY BUT HIM AND TELL YOU ANOTHER THING, TOO, STEWART IS OFF THE CHAIN WITH THOSE NUMBERS PER CAPITA.

THEY MADE STATE NEWS AND THEY ARE OUR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMMON IN HERE. SO THEY'VE GOT SERIOUS ISSUES MARTIN COUNTY RIGHT NOW. WE NEED TO AS WE GET AN INFLUX OF PEOPLE - COMING FROM ALL OVER. GIVE US YOUR RECOMMENDATION ONE WAY OR

THE OTHER. >> OUR CURRENT ACTION, SIR, WE HAVE KEPT OUR SPECIAL EVENTS CANCELED. WE HAVE NOT RESERVED ANY ADDITIONAL FACILITIES NOR HAVE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SPECIAL EVENTS BECAUSE WE ARE FOLLOWING CDC GUIDELINES AND ALSO THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER WITH REGARD TO THE LIMITATION OF LARGE GATHERINGS.

SO WE ARE FOLLOWING THE STATE GUIDANCE. AND THAT IS OUR CURRENT OPERATION. AS FAR AS MY RECOMMENDATION MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO FOLLOW YOUR DIRECTIVE. YOU WILL MAKE A DECISION TELL ME WHAT YOU DO AND WE SHALL ABOUT MY JUDGE.

>> NOBODY WANTS TO TAKE THE BLAME NOW (LAUGHING).

>> IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THIS IS A CONVERSATION ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES. THERE ARE WEDDING VENUES. PEOPLE WANT TO GET MARRIED AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE 100 PEOPLE AT THEIR PARTY, BUT THEY CAN ONLY HAVE 25 OR 50. IN THE FOLLOWING THE GUIDELINES. HE IS THE ORGANIZERS, THE EVENT PLANNER SAYING PLEASE COME TO MY BIRTHDAY OR MY WEDDING AND I CAN ONLY INVITE THIS MANY FOLKS. THAT'S WAS HAPPENING.

>> IT'S CALLED PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. AND I THINK THE PROCEDURES ARE GOOD. I THINK WE'VE HAD GREAT CONVERSATION HERE AND IF PEOPLE START FLOCKING TO FORT PIERCE TO RENDER FACILITIES AND I GUESS WERE DOING SOMETHING GOOD. RIGHT NOW, I THINK I COULD PROBABLY MAKE SOME PHONE CALLS AND EVERYBODY -- I'M NOT HOSTING A PARTY BUT WE COULD INVITE EVERYBODY AND HAVE AN EVENT SOMEWHERE AND WE MIGHT EXCEED THE GUIDELINES. AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO RESPOND. I DIDN'T EVEN GET A PERMIT FOR IT. IT COULD HAPPEN.

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>> THAT'S TRUE. >> IT PROBABLY IS HAPPENING.

>> IT PROBABLY IS. >> I JUST HOPE AGAIN CAUTIOUSLY, IF WERE GOING TO DO THIS BE CAUTIOUS. I'VE TALKED TO PEOPLE THAT HAVE SUFFERED FROM THIS VIRUS AND IT'S NOTHING LIKE DROWNING UP UNDERWATER THAT'S WHAT THEY DESCRIBE. AS A TERRIBLE FEELING. SO CONSEQUENCES, WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED. WERE GOING TO STEP OUT AND DO THIS SUMMER GOING TO PUT PEOPLE'S POTENTIAL LIVES AT STAKE BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE WANTED SOME DON'T. AND SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME WITH MASKS AND SOME WON'T. BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK OUT INTO WHAT WE NEED TO DO BECAUSE WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROTECT THE INTERESTS OF EVERYBODY INVOLVED. AND IT MAY NOT BE THE MOST POPULAR ONE. I'M PREPARED TO DEAL WITH UNPOPULAR THINGS. WHAT I WANT TO DO IS I WANT TO DEAL WITH THE SAFETY MAKE SURE WHETHER IT'S POPULAR OR NOT THEY CAN GET ON FACEBOOK AND TALK ABOUT ME ALL DAY LONG. AT THE END OF THE DAY ONE IS MADE A DECISION THAT WAS DONE FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE IN PROTECTING THEIR SAFETY AND WELL-BEING. I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT FACEBOOK AND NOBODY ELSE'S BOOK. BUT I AM WORRIED ABOUT THE LIVES OF THE PEOPLE THAT I WAS ELECTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I DO ON AGAIN TO PROTECT THEM. I DON'T TO SUBJECT THIS JURISDICTION TO COVID 19 WE COULD HAVE A FLUX IS BAD ENOUGH. ON THE NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH OF US I PRAY THAT WE ARE NOT AS BAD OFF AS THEY ARE BUT WE'VE GOT SERIOUS ISSUES GOING ON DOWN THERE. WE'VE TO TAKE ALL THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION LOOK AT THE TOTALITY OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES WILL WE MAKE DECISIONS. OKAY. SO, IS ANYBODY PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. SO MY, SOMEBODY WANTS A SPECIAL EVENTS DEPARTMENT FOR ANYTHING? IS THERE A DEPOSIT THAT HAS TO BE SUBMITTED.

>> YES, SIR. SMALL DEPOSIT. >> MAYBE WE START THINKING ABOUT A LARGER DEPOSIT THAT IF THE ISSUES -- IF THE RULES AND REGULATIONS ARE NOT HELD AND THERE FOUND TO BE VIOLATING THOSE, THAT THEY MAY LOSE THAT DEPOSIT. I'M TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO DO THIS EVERYTHING INSIDE ME SAYS WE HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS BUT IS A BALANCE BETWEEN CITY FORT PIERCE THE ACADEMIC FLOW ALL THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO GET BACK TO AND I WANT TO GET BACK TO THEM'S AND IS IRONIC IN A WAY THAT WE HAD A SIMILAR DISCUSSION ABOUT JC PARK NOT TOO LONG AGO WE HAD SOME INCIDENTS THERE AND YOU COULDN'T CONTROL THE CROWDS AND THEY CLOSED IT DOWN FOR MEMORIAL DAY. SO IS DIFFERENT, BUT IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF DIFFERENCE BECAUSE WE HAVE NO WAY TO CONTROL THE EVENT OTHER THAN TRUSTING IN THE FACT THAT THOSE EVENT MANAGERS ARE GOING TO DO EXACTLY WHAT WE SAY TO DO AS FAR AS OUR GUIDELINES. I THOUGHT IF WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PUT A LARGER DEPOSIT IN THEIR AND IF THERE WAS AN ISSUE THAT THEY WOULD LOSE THEIR DEPOSIT BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO COVER SOME OF THE EXPENSES THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO REMEDIATE. I DON'T KNOW. SORRY ABOUT ADDING THAT AT THE LAST MINUTE BUT I WAS THINKING THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN OFFSET THAT.

>> I DO BELIEVE WE NEED TO MAKE A POLICY CHANGE FOR THAT FEE TO BE INCREASED.

>> ARE TALKING TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE.

>> JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE. >> MCNAMARA?

>> YES, SIR. >> I THINK, AGAIN, MR. MIMBS WAS BEGINNING OR THE END OF THE MEETING, I DON'T KNOW, BUT HE ALWAYS DID A GREAT PRESENTATION ON THE NUMBERS THAT THE CITY FORT PIERCE HAD. AND IS ANY OF US VISITATION LATELY THOSE NUMBERS ARE CLIMBING KIND OF HIGH. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO THROW A ROCK AND HIDE BECAUSE AGAIN, MY INTEREST IS THE PUBLIC. I WANT NOBODY TO POINT NO FINGERS AT ME BECAUSE I'M A FUNERAL DIRECTOR AND THEY THINK I'M OUT THERE TRYING TO SEND YOU OUT THERE NO. I DO NOT -- I DO NOT PLAY WITH MY LIVELIHOOD, BUT I STILL THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A REPORT ON EVERY MEETING THAT WE COME TO THIS IS NOTHING BUT A BREAKFAST -- A COFFEE WITH THE MAYOR.

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SMOOTH OUT THE NUMBERS SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN NOTE THIS BECAUSE EVERYBODY DON'T GET

THAT INFORMATION. >> YOU WROTE US AN EMAIL TODAY, MR. MIMBS ABOUT THE COVERT OPERATIONS, RIGHT.

>> RIGHT. SO, >> IS ALWAYS AN EMAIL TO US,

NOT THE PUBLIC? >> RIGHT.

>> SO WHY DON'T WE -- WATER TO GIVE THE PUBLIC THAT INFORMATION? BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. SOME PEOPLE ARE SITTING OUT THERE THEY DON'T WANT TO LET US OPEN UP.

NO. THERE'S A REASON WHY WE ARE NOT ALLOWING IT. THERE'S A REASON WHY I'M THINKING THAT

WAY. >>MAYOR HUDSON: GOOD POINT.

>> AND I'M JUST -- FOR THE SAFETY OF THEM BECAUSE I'M TALKING ABOUT CHILDREN, TOO.

CHILDREN MAY HAVE A WAY OF WALKING AROUND IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THINGS ARE GOING TO CHANGE. I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE FOR THE BETTER.

>> AND I AGREE, TOTAL TRANSPARENCY AS A RELATES TO CITY HALL, STATE GOVERNMENT HAS LOOKED AT IT FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE AND THEY'RE NOT REVEALING THINGS LIKE THEY WERE DOING IN THE BEGINNING AS FAR AS WE ARE CONCERNED. LET'S BE HONEST WITH THE PEOPLE AND TELL THEM WHAT'S GOING ON. UNLIKE COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER SAYS LET THEM MAKE THE DECISION, BUT AT LEAST WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE DONE ALL WE CAN TO GIVE THEM THE INFORMATION. HE'S RIGHT YOU GIVEN IT TO US LEFT AND RIGHT, BUT MAKE SURE EVERYBODY ELSE HAS IT. UNTIL MAKE DECISIONS. MAYBE. GOING TO PUBLIX RING FOUR TIMES A DAY LIKE I DO.REALIZING THAT HEY YOU'RE RISKING THINGS. BUT MAKE SURE WE START LETTING THE PUBLIC KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. I WANT ANYBODY'S LIFE ON MY HAND IF I CAN DO SOMETHING TO PREVENT IT.

THIS IS A SERIOUS ISSUE. >> ABSOLUTELY. WE GET UPDATES FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND ST. LUCIE COUNTY EEOC AND I BE HAPPY TO PLACE ON THE WEBSITE. I SEND THE INFORMATION TO YOU ALL DEARLY.

>> IT IS ON OUR WEBSITE A LIST EXPECTS THE LINKS ON OUR WEBSITE, BUT NOT THE ACTUAL NUMBERS THEMSELVES. WE HAVE LINKS TO THE DASHBOARD AND THE WEBSITES THAT HOLD INFORMATION.

>> AND THOSE LINKS ARE UPDATED DAILY IF NOT EVERY OTHER DAY.

>> YES THEY'RE VERY ACCURATE. >> YES. THE DOH.

>> IS ALSO AN ALERT CENTER THAT YOU CAN HAVE A TEXT MESSAGE OR EMAIL MESSAGE OR JUST -- IS ON THE WEBSITE. IT'S ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA SITE. IT'S DEFTLY OUT THERE. IT'S NOT JUST COMING TO OUR EMAIL ADDRESS FOR SURE.

>> IT'S AVAILABLE FOR EVERYONE TO GO SEE. WE WILL MAKE IT MORE PROMINENT.

>> CAN ASK YOU A QUESTION? >> YOU GET INFORMATION FROM LONGWOOD SO THAT THEY CAN TELL YOU THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING HOSPITALIZED SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN KNOW WHAT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON IN THEIR LOCAL HOSPITAL.

>> ME PERSONALLY, NO. I DO NOT GET SPECIFIC INFORMATION.

>> BUT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT DOES.

>> THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT DOES. I GET INFORMATION FROM ST. LUCIE COUNTY EEOC ON HOSPITALIZATIONS IN OUR HEALTH ADMINISTRATOR HE SENDS A SITUATION REPORT ON A WEEKLY BASIS. SPECIFICALLY FROM LONGWOOD I DO NOT.

>> THAT WOULD BE GOOD BIO FOR MY PERSPECTIVE IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO DO. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO IT BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE MAY WANT TO LOOK INTO BECAUSE IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A FACT IN TERMS OF HOW PEOPLE TAKE THIS SERIOUS, I THINK IT'S VITAL TO KNOW THE NUMBERS AT OUR HOSPITAL AND THAT'S -- THAT'S A DEALBREAKER FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. YOU KNOW WHAT I

MEAN? >> YES.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE. ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION?

>> ANNA MAYOR I MOVED THAT WE ACCEPT THE NEW PARAMETERS AND PROCEDURES FOR COVID 19 FACILITY USE AGREEMENT GUIDELINES AND SAFETY PROCEDURES AS PRESENTED -- AS

A. >> SPECIAL EVENT GOVERNMENTS.

>> I WAS READING THE TITLE OF WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN. IS THERE A SECOND?

>> ALL SECOND THAT. >> ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY

MORE DISCUSSION? >> ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO

ADD. >> IT'S TOUGH. I DON'T TAKE -- NO ONE UP HERE TAKES IT LIGHTLY. WE'VE HEARD COMMENTS. IT AFFECTS OUR RESIDENTS, OUR

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FOLKS THAT ARE HERE IT AFFECTS BUSINESSES. IT'S ALMOST -- IF WE WERE TO START REGULATING EVEN FURTHER, RESTAURANTS AND ACTIVITIES DOOR SALES IN RETAIL STORES, WE ARE NOT THEY ARE.

BUT WE JUST HAVE TO TAKE IT WAS CAUTION AND MOVE FORWARD. I THINK IT'S A GOOD STEP FORWARD AND WE ARE BEING PROACTIVE IN TELLING THE COMMUNITY TO BE RESPONSIBLE, WHERE YOUR MASK COME OUT AND ENJOY WHAT FORT PIERCE SAYS. THANK YOU.

>> ARE WE READY TO VOTE? >> CALL THE ROLL, MISS COX.

>> (ROLL CALL) (ROLL CALL). >> MADAME, MAYOR COMMISSIONERS, PBEFORE I GO HAVE ONE OTHER ITE TO DISCUSS. AT THE CONCLUSION OF OUR DISCUSSION AT THE CONFERENCE AGENDA, WE WERE ASKED ABOUT USE PROGRAMMING FOR THE SUMMER. WE DID LOOK INTO THAT. WE LOOK TO SEE WHAT OUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES ARE DOING AND WE LOOK TO SEE WHAT SOME OF OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS ARE DOING. IF WE WERE TO DO ANY SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAMMING THE NUMBER WOULD BE LIMITED SO THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT THERE IS NOT A BUNCH OF KIDS IN THE SAME COMMUNITY. THE CHALLENGES HAVE PRESENTED THEMSELVES OUR KIDS WILL BE KIDS AND KIDS LIKE TO PLAY. THE RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF FOR ACTIVITIES, IF WE WERE TO DO THIS WOULD BE ACTIVITIES THAT WERE NOT CONTACT SPORTS NO BASKETBALL FOOTBALL ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

IT WOULD BE ALONG THE LINES OF MENTORING, TUTORING TYPE PROGRAM, THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES. IT WOULD TAKE PLACE AT OUR RECREATION FACILITY.

>> I DON'T EVEN LIKE PUTTING YOU IN THAT POSITION BECAUSE YOU CANNOT CONTROL CHILDREN.

IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO DO AND I'M RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM LET ALONE YOU OUT THERE WHERE YOU'RE AT. AND YOU CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT. ADULTS, PERHAPS, TO SOME DEGREE WE CAN ANTICIPATE AND HOPE THEY DO THEIR BEST BUT CHILDREN ARE SOMETHING WE CAN CONTROL. YOU CAN SELL IS THAT AND I UNDERSTAND AND I RESPECT YOU FOR THAT NOT TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM YOU, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I REALLY DON'T AGREE WITH RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY WITH THE NUMBERS BEING AS HIGH AS THEY ARE. MAYBE WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS IN THE FUTURE. BUT CHILDREN ARE MORE FRIENDLY THAN WE ARE. THEY LIKE TO TOUCH EACH OTHER.

THEY LIKE TO HOLD EACH OTHER. THEY LIKE TO SLAP HANDS AND THEY DO THINGS THAT MOST OF US SHOULD BE DOING. DURING THESE TIMES RIGHT NOW THAT IS NOT THE BEST THING TO DO. SO I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT. MAYBE WE CAN REVIEW IT IN THE FUTURE AND I BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO BUT I WILL BE ABLE TO SUPPORT OPENING UP ANY SUMMER CAMPS RIGHT NOW FOR CHILDREN. NOT UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES. THANK YOU.

>> YES, SIR. ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO WEIGH IN?

>> YOU TAKE SPORTS HAVE A SUMMER CAMP AND YOU DON'T HAVE A SUMMER CAMP. IF I HAD -- IF I WAS CHILD GOING TO ART CAMP IT WOULD BE BECAUSE THEY DID SOMETHING VERY WRONG.

(LAUGHING) UNTHINKING ART CAMP, I CAN'T GET EXCITED ABOUT THAT. FOOTBALL.

>> I UNDERSTAND WHATEVER. OR NOT CAN BE SUCCESSFUL AT IT BUT I THINK IF THERE'S WAYS THAT WE CAN HELP SUPPORT THOSE NONPROFITS THAT ARE DOING SUMMER CAMPS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO KNOW ABOUT THAT I KNOW THAT WHAT THE CITY FORT PIERCE CAN DO TO HELP THEM OUT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE DEDICATED TO DO WHATEVER AND IF WE CANNOT HAVE OUR OWN, LET'S STEP UP AND TRY TO HELP THOSE THAT ARE ALREADY ESTABLISHED AND COMMITTED TO IT? COMMISSIONER JOHNSON?

>> YES. JUST A FEW THOUGHTS. I GUESS AT THIS POINT, I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE NO CONTACT TYPE ACTIVITIES BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HER KIDS ARE NOW TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO. AND THAT'S -- IT HAPPENS IT SPURS OTHER THINGS SOMETIMES. AND MY KIDS AMONG THEM ALL THE TIME ABOUT STAYING BUSY AND STAYING ACTIVE. AND SO GOSH, I'M TORN WITH THIS ONE. I AGREE THAT IF THERE'S PROGRAMS OUT THERE CAN WE PARTNER WITH FOLKS? WE'VE GOT BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB FOR SURE WE'VE GOT ONE FACILITY THAT'S BEING USED NOW IN CHOOSING THE GROUNDS THAT ALL THERE'S NO OUTSIDE AGENCIES.

>> WE ARE PARTNERING WITH BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AT THIS WORK PARTNERING WITH THE CITY OF

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PORT ST. LUCIE. THEY MAY HAVE KIDS THAT MAY NEED TUTORING ACTIVITIES MEANT TOURING, SO THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB WILL BE DOING THAT.

>> THERE'S AN EXAMPLE. THAT'S A PROGRAM THAT IS IN PLACE AND MOVING FORWARD.

>> THEIR GOAL IS TO GET THAT KIDS GET TO CAMPS AT THEIR FACILITIES.

>> OKAY. THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY IN THE ARTS, WHETHER IT IS MUSIC OR ART OR WHATEVER IS NOT ALWAYS ABOUT CONTACT SPORTS. THAT'S WHAT I DID. BUT I CAN'T -- I DON'T SEE ANY NEGATIVES WITH MUSIC AND ART PROGRAMS.

>> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER. >> I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT EXPOSING OUR CHILDREN AND THEN AGAIN I'M THINKING ABOUT OUR KIDS WITHOUT SUPERVISION.

THAT'S WHERE MY CONCERNS GROW THAT YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE THESE KIDS JUST RUNNING LOOSE IN WILD AND FORT PIERCE, HIM AFTER GOING TO PICK UP SOME BAD HABITS. SO I WOULD RATHER SEE THEM -- A 4A DO NOTHING BUT FEED THEM FOR LUNCH OR SOMETHING, OTHER THAN THE RUNNING UP AND DOWN TRYING TO CATCH A BALL. I STILL THINK THEY NEED SUPERVISION AND BELIEVE ME, THE SUMMER IS GOING TO BE HOT AND IT'S GOING TO -- IT WILL TAKE EVERYTHING OUT OF THEIR BODY AND NOT PUT ANYTHING IN THEIR BODY. SO, I WOULD BE LOOKING FORWARD TO SOMETHING AS FAR AS FEEDING THEM, HYDRATING THEM, SOME KIND OF WAY ANOTHER. MICHAEL TAKE THE TASK ON SO I'D LIKE TO SEE MY COME UP WITH SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, SUPER -- SUPERNATURAL THAT'S GOING TO --

THAT THE KIDS WILL LOVE TO DO. >> JUST IN AIR CONDITIONING

PLACE FOR THEM TO GO TO. >> I AGREE.

>> HE BRINGS UP AN INTERESTING POINT. ANYTHING SHORT OF FEEDING THEM BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE OUT THERE AS A RESULT OF SCHOOL BEING CLOSED. I'M ALL FOR THAT. PUT THAT MONEY INTO FEEDING THEM BUT IN TERMS OF THEM CONGREGATING TOGETHER, I'M NOT -- KEEP IN MIND HOW THIS DISEASE PASS SO FAST WAS AS A RESULT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE ASYMPTOMATIC AND CHILDREN ARE KNOWN FOR NOT CURING THE SYMPTOMS BUT THEY GO HOME AND THEY GIVE IT TO PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND I. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT WAS A STRONG SOURCE OF THE SPREADING OF THIS VIRUS FROM THE CHILDREN BEING ASYMPTOMATIC AND THEY BRING HOME AND WE GOT ALL THE PSYMPTOMS. SO, I JUST DON'T -- ANYTHING SHORT OF FEEDING THEM, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH. I SUPPORT THAT, BUT MUSIC, THEY CAN LISTEN TO MUSIC AT HOME.

GET ON FACEBOOK LIKE THEY NORMALLY DO. WHATEVER. WHATEVER THEY DO. AGAIN, THIS IS TEMPORARY. WHAT WE'VE GOT TO DO IS WE HAVE TO GET A TEMPORARY FIX UNTIL WE CAN GET PAST THIS DEVASTATING DISEASE. IT'LL GET BETTER, I BELIEVE, BUT RIGHT NOW WE ARE IN A MAJOR DILEMMA AND WE NEED TO TAKE ALL THE NECESSARY PRECAUTIONS THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN ESPECIALLY SITTING FROM HERE. I JUST DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH ALLOWING CHILDREN TO CONGREGATE BECAUSE I KNOW HOW CHILDREN CONDUCT THEMSELVES AND WILL CAN'T CONTROL THE CHILDREN AND I CAN'T EITHER. IF YOU TRY TO CONTROL THEM NOW A DAY TO GET IN TROUBLE THE POLICE WILL BE KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR. YOU CAN DO IT LIKE YOU USED TO. SO, AGAIN, I JUST DON'T THINK CHILDREN CONGREGATING TOGETHER IN ANY SHAPE FORM OR FASHION UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES WITH -- IF WE WERE UNDER A DIFFERENT SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES AND THE NUMBERS WERE LOWER, BUT RIGHT NOW, THEY'VE GOT REAL HIGH. AND IT'S HIGHER NOW THAN IT WAS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. SO, WHY WOULD WE GO BACK AND TAKE A LESSER DEGREE OF ACTION ONE IS HIGH, BUT ONE WAS LOWER, WE HAD STRONG ENFORCEMENT, IT JUST DON'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. THE LOGIC BEHIND THAT DOES NOT MAKE

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SENSE. SO YOU KNOW, SHORT OF FEEDING, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH. THEY NEED TO BE FED AT THIS LUNCH AND DINNER GIVE MISTAKE IF YOU CAN. THEY NEED TO EAT. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN EATING, BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM CONGREGATING TOGETHER. NEXT THING TO CONSIDER. IF IT WERE THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION TO HOLD THE CAMPS THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WERE READY TO START TOMORROW. WE HAVE ONE PROGRAM SPECIALIST AT THE FACILITY. WE WOULD NEED TO SECURE VOLUNTEERS . BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY -- WHATEVER DIRECTION YOU WISH TO

TAKE, WE CAN START OFF. >> WHAT I HEAR IS THAT THE COMMISSION IS SAYING KIND OF NO GO FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, PROBABLY UNTIL SEPTEMBER. THAT IS WHAT I HEAR. WE WILL KNOW SOMETHING MORE. HE COULD BE LATE TO START A SUMMER PROGRAM IN MID JULY.

>> RIGHT. SO IS THAT -- THE CONSENSUS?

>> RIGHT? >> RIGHT. ARE YOU CLEAR?

>> I'M GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

[14. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC Any person who wishes to comment on any subject may be heard at this time. Please limit your comments to three (3) minutes or less, as directed by the Mayor, as this section of the Agenda is limited to thirty minutes. The City Commission will not be able to take any official actions under Comments from the Public. Speakers will address the Mayor, Commissioners, and the Public with respect. Inappropriate language will not be tolerated.]

>> NEXT WE HAVE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC THE MAYOR, IF YOU WILL INDULGE ME I FAILED TO READ A STATEMENT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING. SO IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU I LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND READ THAT BACK TO GET THAT INTO THE RECORD?

>>MAYOR HUDSON: YES, MA'AM. >> THIS IS AN EMAIL FROM CHARLIE HAYEK OF 1111 FERNANDINA STREET. BOTTOM MAYOR COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF IN ATTENDANCE IF YOU REVIEW THE POLICY REGARDING CAMERAS IS A COMPREHENSIVE AND MANDATES THAT OFFICERS DOWNLOAD THE INFORMATION UPON END OF SHIFT OR SOON AS POSSIBLE. THERE ARE OCCASIONS WHERE BY AN OFFICER CANNOT GET TO THE PROPER COMPUTER TO DO THE DOWNLOAD AND WILL DO IT ON THE FOLLOWING DAY. THEY SHOULD NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR NOT DOING IT AFTER THE SHIFT ENDS. THE EQUIPMENT IS SUCH THAT IT CANNOT BE ALTERED WELL IN THE OFFICERS POSSESSION. THE PRESENT APOLOGY SHOULD BE MAINTAINED AS WRITTEN. AT THE MAY 18 COMMISSION MEETING THERE WAS A DISCUSSION OF POLICE BUDGET AND THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO PROVIDE A LEVEL OF SERVICE DEMANDED BY THE PUBLIC. AFTER THE PRESENTATION IT WAS THAT THE NEXT BUDGET WOULD BE INCREASED BY 500,000. HOWEVER RECENTLY THERE HAVE BEEN COMMENTS BY COMMISSIONERS THAT THE BUDGET NEEDS TO BE REDUCED BY 500,000.

THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE IF WE ARE TO MAINTAIN STAFFING AND TRAINING AT CURRENT LEVELS.

OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TRAINS NEW HIRES TO PREVENT ACCIDENTS FROM OCCURRING THUS THE REASON OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS SEEK OUR OFFICERS TO JOIN THE AIR FORCE. THE REQUEST FOR THE FUNDING NEEDS TO BE MET SO WE CAN KEEP OUR CITIZENS SAFE. THANK YOU.

>>MAYOR HUDSON: RIGHT. SO PUBLIC COMMENT TIME IS NOW. AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

YOU WILL HAVE A THREE SECOND MORNING AND PLEASE SIGN YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND PAPER THERE AND THEN, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. WHEN YOU START SPEAKING YOUR TIME WILL NOT BE STARTED UNTIL YOU START SPEAKING. GOOD EVENING.

>> GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, 40 COMMISSIONER SESSIONS GO?

>>. >> I THINK HE'S COMING BACK.

>> YOUR COMMENTS CAN BE HEARD AS LONG AS HE IS IN THE BUILDING.

>> PRAISE THE LORD. >> STATION.

>> MY NAME IS PINKY -- 2306 SAN DIEGO AVENUE. I WAS PERSONALLY IDENTIFIED TODAY. I AM A MEMBER OF THE POLICE COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND I TAKE MY POSITION VERY SERIOUSLY.

YOU ALL APPOINTED US. AND IF YOU HAVE NOT HEARD FROM THE PERSON YOU APPOINTED, THAT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. I WANT MY COMMISSIONERS TO BE HONEST, TO HAVE INTEGRITY, TO BE ABLE TO BRING VALUABLE AND CORRECT INFORMATION WHEN THEY COME. I SHOULD NOT HAVE A COMMISSIONER SIT IN ON A RADIO CONVERSATION, KNOW WHAT THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE WAS ABOUT AND NOT MAKE A STATEMENT. WE ARE NOT A REVIEW BOARD. WE ARE NOT A REVIEW BOARD. OUR PURPOSE IS TO MEET WITH THE CHIEF OF POLICE -- AND I ENCOURAGE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU TO GO BACK AND READ THE MANDATE YOU GAVE US AS A VOLUNTEER TO SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE. IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT WE MEET WITH THE CHIEF OF POLICE WHO GIVE US INFORMATION. NOW IT WAS INDICATED THAT WE NEED TO BE REORGANIZED. LET ME TELL YOU