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[1. CALL TO ORDER]

[4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

[6. FINANCIAL REPORT FOR QUARTER ENDING DECEMBER 31, 2019]

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THERE IS $7.5 MILLION IN THE FUND AND WE ARE PROJECTING IF REVENUE RECEIVED AND NO ADDITIONAL EXPENSES INCURRED THE FUND WOULD HAVE AVAILABLE RESOURCE OF ABOUT 957,000 AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR. I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

MOST OF THE MONEY WE GET TO FINANCING GOES TO DEBT?

>> CORRECT. >> CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MUCH THAT

IS? >> 5 PRESIDENT 8 MILLION IS WHAT WE HAVE BUDGETED THIS YEAR FOR OUR DEBT SERVICE MINUS THE 450 TRANSFER THAT WE ARE TRANSFERRING OVER TO THE SUNRISE THEATER AND THEN WE HAD A $400,000 TRANSFER TO GENERAL FUND TO HELP SUPPLEMENT THE DEBT PAYMENT AS WELL.

ALL OF THE DEBT THAT IS ON THE BOOKS IS THE DEBT FOR THIS

FISCAL YEAR IS $5.8 MILLION. >> THAT IS JUST FPRA PORTION.

>> THE CITY'S PORTION IS OVER AND ABOVE THAT?

>> CORRECT. >> THAT IS SOMEWHERE AROUND

TOTAL ABOUT 7 OR 8348. >> IT'S A LITTLE MORE THAN THAT.

WE HAVE IN OUR GENERAL FUND A DEBT SERVICE IS ABOUT TOTAL DEBT ALL TOGETHER IS ABOUT NINE WITH BOTH FUNDS.

YOU ARE ASKING WHAT THE CRA OWES THE CITY MANY.

>> NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE THAT WE PAY AND WE PAY SOME OF IT OUT OF FPR AN E A AND SOME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE TOTAL

WAS. >> YOU ARE SAYING THE TOTAL WAS

HOW MUCH? >> 9 MILLION TOTAL BUT OF THAT 9,000,005.8 COMES FROM TIFF IS THAT RIGHT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> DID I HEAR HER SAY THAT SOME PORTION WAS TO REPAY THE CITY

DEBT? >> WE BUDGETED AN ADDITIONAL 900,000 IN FPRA EXPENSES TO COME OVER TO GENERAL TO START PAYING OFF SOME OF THE $8.4 MILLION THAT IS OWED.

>> SO THEY ARE CONTRIBUTING, WE ARE CONTRIBUTING.

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THAT I BELIEVE IS RESTRICTED REVENUE OR YOU ALL DESIGNATE THE USE OF THAT REVENUE. THAT'S A REMIND TORE BRING THAT FORWARD. REMIND TORE BRING IT TO THE CITY COMMISSIONER. IT WAS NOT EARMARKED SPECIFICALLY FOR ROADS LIKE THE INITIAL 600.

WE DID EARMARK THAT SPECIFICALLY FOR ROAD AND IT WAS USED FAR

PURPOSE. >> ONE MORE QUESTION.

IN THE TRANSFERS -- HOW ARE THE SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS FUNDED? DO WE TRANSFER THE MONEY BEFORE WE PAY THAT?

>> THE CITY PAYS IT AND THEN WE TRANSFER IT OVER.

>> ONLY ONE SCHOOL THAT WE RESOURCE.

>> THAT'S INCLUDED IN YOUR INFORMATION PACKET AND UPDATE OF THE ACTIVITIES. IT'S A WONDERFUL SCHOOL.

I WAS JUST THERE. THEY HAVE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT, THEY HAVE I THINK THERE IS A SHERIFF DEPUTY THERE, YES.

AND JUST BEING PART OF THAT SCHOOL AND EDUCATIONAL COMMUNITY. AS A MATTER OF FACT WHEN WE VISITED, I DID SEE OFFICER GAUZE THERE AND HE'S SET UP A SAFETY PATROL. THOSE SAFETY PATROL PEOPLE ESCORTED US THROUGH THE SCHOOL YES.

>> I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO VISIT THEN.

>> YOU LEARN. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BUDGET? SHALL WE MOVE ON?

[A. CRA Plan Update - S&ME Consultants]

NEXT ITEM IS THE CRA PLAN UPDATE.

>> MEMBERS OF THE FPRA BOARD WE HAVE WITH US THIS AFTERNOON MR. JON JONES COMING FROM SME CONSULTANT OUT OF ORLANDO FLORIDA. HE'S BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY STAFF TO GAIN THE INPUT OF THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO DRAFT THE CRA PLAN UPDATE AND HE HAS A PRESENTATION FOR YOUR VIEWING

TODAY. >> WELCOME MR. JONES.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE COMMISSION.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF HANDOUTS WE LEFT AT YOUR CHAIRS ALSO THAT WERE TOO MUCH INFORMATION TO INCLUDE IN THE POWER POINT PRESENTATION. SOMEONE THE PUBLIC INPUT SUMMARIES AND ONE IS THE SUMMARY OF THE PROPOSED GOALS OBJECTIVES AND PROJECTS IDENTIFIED IN THE PLAN.

TODAY WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE UPDATE OF THE FORT PIERCE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. THE BIG IDEAS GAINS.

THE PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT PROGRAMMING THAT IS DENAILED ONE OF THE HANDOUTS. THE TIFF REVENUE PROJECTIONS VERSUS THE DEBT SERVICE TO ELABORATE ON THE DISCUSSION YOU JUST HAD AND TALK ABOUT THE NEXT STEPS UNTIL THE PROCESS.

THE INTENT IS TO PRESENT THESE DRAFT ITEMS TO YOU FOR CONSENSUS AND DISCUSSION AND MOVE ON TO THE FINALIZATION OF THE PLAN UPDATE. UPDATE THE PLAN WITH CURRENT PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS. THE SECOND WAS TO EXTEND THE OPERATIONAL TIME FRAME OF THE FORT PIERCE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY

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THROUGH 2042. THE PROCESS INCLUDED AN EXISTING CONDITIONS ANALYSIS. IDENTIFYING STRATEGIC GOALS OR BIG IDEAS. IDENTIFYING CAP TOLL PROJECTS.

REDEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS AND PREPARE AND TAX INCREMENT FUND PROJECTIONS AND PRESENTING THE PLAN FOR ADOPTION.

THE COMMUNITY BRIEFING AND LISTENING SESSIONS HAD SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS FOUR SPECIFIC AREAS WHERE WE HAD INDIVIDUAL LISTENING SESSIONS DOWNTOWN FISHERMAN'S WHATEVER AND PEACOCK DISTRICT AND SOUTH BEACH. A BRIEF SUMMARY.

LINCOLN PARK INCLUDED INCENT VICE AND SUPPORT NONRESIDENTIAL INVESTMENT, IMPROVE AREA SAFETY, SUPPORT ART EVENTS AND HERITAGE, ENCOURAGE A HIGHER MIX OF USES AND DIVERSIFY THE HIGHER STOCK.

NEXT LISTENING SESSIO WAS HILLED AT FISHERMAN'S WHATEVER AND THE PORT. DEVELOPING A BRAND FOR THE AREA AS A REGIONAL DESTINATION, INCENTIVIZING PRIVATE INVESTMENT. STREAMLINING DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS. ACTIVATING A WATER FRONT THROUGH SUPPORTIVE USES AND AMENITIES AND INCREASING TANGIBLE -- START TO SEE SOME THEMES GET TEASED OUT OF THESE, RECURRING ISSUES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED BY THE COMMUNITY.

THE NEXT SESSION WAS DOWNTOWN SESSION.

THE COMMUNITY DRIVEN PRIORITIES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AT THAT SESSION INCLUDED LIMITS OR REMOVING BARRIERS FOR AREA DEVELOPMENT AND ACTIVITIES, IMPROVING MULTIMODAL MOBILITY AND ACCESS. STREAMLINING DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS. REEVALUATING AREA PARKING CONDITIONS AND MITIGATING IMPACTS OF SEASONAL POPULATION SHIFTS. THE FOURTH SESSION WAS AT SOUTH BEACH IN THE COMMUNITY DRIVEN PRIORITIES IDENTIFIED THERE INCLUDED REEXAMINING GOVERNMENT OWN PROPERTIES FOR POTENTIAL PRIVATE INVESTMENT. IMPROVING THE QUANTY AND QUALITY OF LOCAL AMENITIES. REEVALUATING AREA PARKING CONDITIONS AND MITIGATING IMPACTS OF SEASONAL POPULATION SHIFTS. WE ALSO HAD ONLINE SURVEY OVER 150 RESPONDENTS TO THE ONLINE SURVEY.

THE CHART YOU SEE REFLECTS THE PEAKS AND INPUT WE RECEIVED OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. THE BIG SURVEY RESULTS WHAT ARE THE SPECIFIC AREAS OR TYPES OF SHOPPING YOU YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA? TOP FIVE RESPONSE INCLUDED GROCERY STORE, PARKS AND GREEN SPACE, RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS.

SURVEY RESULTS ADDRESSING WHAT THEY FELT THE GREATEST CHALLENGES FACING RESIDENTS IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.

THE PERCEPTION OF CRIME, LOSS A SMALL TOWN FEEL, PARKING, HIGH HOUSING COSTS. ADDITIONAL SURVEY RESULTS REGARDING THE GREATEST CHALLENGES FACING BUSINESSES IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA THE TOP FIVE RESPONSES INCLUDED PERCEPTION OF CRIME, PARKING, INCENTIVIZING LOCAL SPENDING, SEASONAL POPULATION SHIFTS AND FACADE REPAIRS AND TREATMENTS.

AND ONE OF THE FINAL RESPONSES WHAT IMPROVEMENTS COULD THE BUSINESSES IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA DO TO MAKE YOU VISIT THEM MORE OFTEN. ONE WAS INCREASE COMMERCIAL VARIETY. ADDRESS PARK ISSUES, EXTEND DOWNTOWN BUSINESS HOURS, INCREASE FREQUENCY OF COMMUNITY EVENTS, IMPROVE COMMUNITY AESTHETICS INCLUDING LANDSCAPING, FACADES AND ARCHITECTURE.

SO THE BIG IDEAS THAT WERE GLEANED OUT OF THOSE PUBLIC LISTENING SESSIONS INCLUDED THESE FOUR STRATEGIC ITEMS. RESTORE THE NEIGHBORHOODS. TWO, FOSTER ARTS AND CULTURE, THREE, RESET THE ECONOMIC BASE IN THE FORT PIERCE REDEVELOPMENT AREA AND NUMBER FOUR CONNECT. WE'LL GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE BIG IDEAS. BIG IDEA NUMBER ONE, RESTORE THE NEIGHBORHOODS. THE STRATEGIES INCLUDE IMPROVE THE PUBLIC AREAS WITHIN AND CONNECTING THE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH MULTIMODAL STREETS AND TREE LINE SEAHAWKS.

ENCOURAGING AND ENABLING HOME OWNERSHIP IN THE AREA.

ENCOURAGING PRIVATE SECTOR DEVELOPMENT OF NEW RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO UPDATE THE EXISTIG DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS FOUND IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA. BIG IDEA NUMBER TWO, FOSTER ARTS AND CULTURE. STRATEGIES UNDER THIS BIG IDEA INCLUDE IMPROVING THE PUBLIC ART AREAS AND OUTDOOR GATHERING AND SPACES. CONNECTING CULTURAL'S SETS AND NEIGHBORHOODS. SUPPORTING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CITY ARTS AND CULTURE MASTER PLAN.

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CONVERTING VACANT STORE FRONT AND HOMES INTO GALLERIES FOR ARTIST, PERFORMANCES AND CREATOR SPACES.

ACTIVATING STREETS WITH RESTAURANTS, BOUTIQUES, HOSPITALITY USES SURROUNDING THE SUNRISE THEATER , THE LINCOLN THEATER AND THROUGHOUT THE PEACOCK ARTS DISTRICT AND DOWNTOWN. AND THEN USING ARTS AND CULTURAL ACTIVITIES AS A COMPONENT OF RESETTING THE ECONOMIC BASE ANDLESS IT CAN SEASONAL ECONOMIC FLUCTUATIONS AND THE IMPACT OF THOSE FLUCTUATION. THE THIRD IDEA RESETTING THE ECONOMIC BASE. THE CITY HAS A STRONG ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM W. SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD NOON BY SUPPORTING AND GROWING LOCAL BUSINESS, ENTREPRENEURS AND STARTUPS AND SMALL BUSINESS WITNESS THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.

CONNECTING THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO JOBS DOWNTOWN AND ALONG THE WATER FRONT. AND THEN ALSO CONNECTING NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE BUSINESSES, GALLERIES, RESTAURANTS, BOUTIQUES , THE BEACHSIDE, LINCOLN PARK AND THE PEACOCK ARTS DISTRICT THROUGH MULTIMODAL STREETSCAPE AND IMPROVEMENTS.

THE FOURTH IDEA THAT TIES IT ALL TOGETHER IS CONNECT.

CONNECTING THE NEIGHBORHOODS, THE AMENITIES AND DESTINATIONS WITH STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS. TRAIL HEADS, MULTIMODAL ROADWAYS AND TREE LINE SIDEWALKS. ENCOURAGING AND ENABLING THE DEVELOPMENT OF ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND SMALL BUSINESSES AND ADDITIONAL PRIVATE SECTOR INVESTMENT ALONG THE CONNECTION AND NEAR THE DESTINATION.

HOW DO WE ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THESE IDEAS.

>> CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? WHEN YOU SAY CONNECT THE NEIGHBORHOODS YOU TALK ABOUT THE FOUR AREAS, CRA GOES OUT THE 33RD STREET I BELIEVE. AND IT GOES TO GEORGIA AVENUE.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> THERE SEEMS TO BE A PREOCCUPATION WITH DOWNTOWN AND LINCOLN PARK AND PEACOCK ARTS DISTRICT. IT WAS REST OF THE CITY THAT IS IN THE CRA DISCUSSED OR DO YOU MEAN THAT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT

NEIGHBORHOODS? >> YES, MA'AM.

AND THE NEXT SLIDES WILL ILLUSTRATE THAT.

YOU ARE RIGHT THERE. >> SORRY ABOUT THIS.

>> NOT A PROBLEM. >> SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS YOU MACK OF THE CRA ARYLS FORREDEVELOPMENT AREA.

THE CIRCLES YOU SEE REPRESENT TEN MINUTE WALK DISTANCE.

HOW FAR YOU CAN WALK IN TEN MINUTES.

THE ONE IN THE CENTER IS AROUND THE SQUARE.

THERE IS TEN MINUTE WALK AREA ILLUSTRATED THERE.

AND THEN FROM THE CENTER OF THE PEACOCK ARTS DISTRICT A TEN MINUTE WALK AND IN THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE CRA A TEN MINUTE WALK. THEN THE MOORE'S CREEK PARK SHOWN THROUGH THE CENTER. WHAT THIS PLAN ILLUSTRATES OR DEMONSTRATES ON A ZOOMED IN VERSION, IT SHOWS A RANGE OF STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA. THE IMPROVEMENT OR EXTENSION OF THE LINEAR PARK OF MOORE'S CREEK THROUGH CRA AREA.

THE CONNECTIONS NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE DOWNTOWN, TO THE WATER FRONT AND TO SEVERAL OPPORTUNITY SITES THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO A LITTLE GREATER DETAIL IN RIGHT HERE. SOME MODEL BLOCK AREAS.

LOOKING AT MOORE'S CREEK. ON THE LEFT SIDE YOU SEE THE EXISTING CONDITION GENERAL CONDITION OF MOORE'S CREEK AFTER THE LINEAR PARK ENDS. YOU HAVE ABOUT A RIGHT OF WAY AREA OF 145 FEET. WHAT CAN YOU DO WITHIN THAT EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY AREA? WE ARE PROPOSING EXTENDING THE LINEAR PATHWAY THAT RUNS ALONG THE AREA USING A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE TO CONNECT NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS MOORE'S CREEK AND ALSO ADD AGO DIVISIONAL AMENITIES TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE INCLUDING PEDESTRIAN TRAILS, BIKE TRAILS AND ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING. THIS IS THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE MOORE'S CREEK.

>> WHERE WOULD WOULD THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE GO?

>> WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED THE STREET AT THIS TIME.

15TH STREET TO THE WEST S THAT HOW FAR WE GO GO?

>> YES, SIR, THAT'S WHERE IT STOPS.

>> WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY IS PRESENTING THESE IDEAS TO Y'ALL TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON THEM AS A SOUNDING BOARD.

LET US KNOW IF WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK AND WE'LL PREPARE THE DETAILED COST ESTIMATES ASSOCIATED WITH EACH.

>> ORANGE AVENUE HAS A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SECTIONS.

ONE HAS A LARGE RIGHT OF WAY ABOUT 82 FEET.

WE'RE PROPOSING A ROAD DIET FOR THIS STREET.@WE WOULD TAKE YOURS

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YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE TWO LANES IN EITHER DIRECTION AND A SUICIDE LANE IN THE MIDDLE WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TWO TRAVEL LANES, AN ADDITIONAL ON STREET PARKING LANE PUTTING IN A MULTIMODAL PATH ALONG WITH A FOUR FOOT PEDESTRIAN SIDEWALK AND ALSO HAVE ADDITIONAL STREETSCAPE AND LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY. THIS IS ALL UTILIZING EXISTING

RIGHT OF WAY YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW. >> I BROUGHT THIS UP AT THE TPO.

THEY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOME HEAVIER POLITICKING BECAUSE THEY SAID THAT WE MET THE STANDARD FOR DOT COMPLETE STREETSISM DISAGREED WITH THEM. I PULLED THEM ASIDE AFTER THE MEETING AND I DIDN'T AGREE. YOU HAVE FIVE LANES ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN. IT'S NOT CONDUCIVE TO MULTIMODAL CONNECTIVITY. SO I LIKE THIS IDEA.

ARE WE PLANNING TO TAKE THIS -- I KNOW WE HAVE 13TH STREET IS WHERE WE STOP WITH OUR TWO LANE SECTION AND CONTINUE WEST WITH OUR MASSIVE ROADWAY, THE ROAD DIET PROGRAM THAT I LIKE TO HEAR. 13TH TO 33RD.

IS THAT THE SECTION WE'RE THINKING OR JUST GET IT TO 25TH? I KNOW THIS IS JUST A PROPOSAL IN SCOPE. WAS THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM

STAFF. >> THIS GOES FROM 13TH TO THE

EDGE OF THE CRA. >> GOOD.

>> THEN WE HAVE THE -- >> YOU TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THE BUSIEST ROADS AND WITH ONE SINGLE LANE TRAVELING EACH WAY.

HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE? YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IF YOU SAY 13TH STREET TO 33RD STREET THAT'S A RACETRACK.

SOME OF THESE CARS GOING TO SIDESWIPE SOMEBODY PARKED ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. YOU ARE NOT TAKING ANY CONCESSION FOR THAT. WE GOING TO ELIMINATE TRACTOR TRAILERS COMING THROUGH OUR CITY AND REROUTE THEM? I THINK IT WAS ALREADY DONE BUT THEY DON'T ABIDE BY IT.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE IS DANGEROUS? FROM 13 TO 33RD STREET. THAT'S A SPEED TRACK.

ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION? HOW REQUE CAN YOU WITH YOUR DESN HERE? I'M LOOKING AT DANGEROUS PERIOD. ANY TRACTOR TRAILER COMING DOWNTOWN, THEY'LL DISRUPT TRAFFIC GOING EAST OR WEST OR NORTH OR SOUTH. THEY DISTRANSCRIPT WHOLE TRAFFIC PATTERN. I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.

WE CAN PRESENT PROPOSALS EVERY YEAR.

CRA -- >> 1982.

SO WE DO A PRESENTATION EVERY YEAR WITHOUT RESULTS.

SO I MEAN I HAVE TO LOOK YOUR DIRECTION.

I FELL MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS YOU NEED TO PAY ATTENTION.

>> ALONG WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING , THE TPO HAS HAD A MAP OF THE STREETS IN THE COUNTY AND THE ROADS , THE MAJOR ROADS AND DESIGNATED THE ONES THAT WERE SUITABLE FOR THE BIG TRUCKS AND I DON'T THINK -- IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE NOT EAST OF 5TH STREET.

>> I HEARD YOU WHEN YOU SAY LOSS OF A SMALL TOWN FEEL.

THAT'S WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO. IT'S GOING TO ELIMINATE A SMALL TOWN BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE VISITORS ON A DAILY BASIS.

IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT, TRY U.S. 1.

TRY TO GO FIVE MILES ANY DIRECTION.

IT'S CRAZY. I'M JUST THAT'S AN OBSERVATION.

>> OK. >> DOT HAS DONE A LOT OF STUDIES IN OTHER CITIES OF THIS EXACT THING AND THEY CALL IT ROAD DIETING. IT REALLY CHANGES THE SCOPE OF

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TRAVEL. IT CHANGES CONNECTIVITY.

ALLOWS FOLKS TO UTILIZE THE MULTIMODAL.

THERE ARE STUDIES AND PROVEN TRACK RECORDS I BELIEVE DOWN SOUTH. I WANT TO SAY DELL RAY, IS THERE A COMMUNITY DOWN THERE THAT DID IT.

IT WAS A FIVE LANE THOROUGH FARE JUST LIKE ORANGE AVENUE AND IT WORKS. NOW THEY HAVE THRIVING BUSINESS ON THE STREET FRONT. WHEN I WAS TALKING TO THE TPO FOLKS I SUGGESTED A 13-25 FIRST STEP ONE PLAN TO SEE IF WE COULD MAKE IT HAPPEN. BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN OUR INTERSTATE INTERCHANGE IMPROVEMENTS.

THE BEAUTIFY INDICATION OF THOSE THINGS TO THINK ABOUT.

25TH STREET BEING A LARGE ROAD THAT CONNECTS THE NORTH AND SOUTH PARTS OF THE COUNTY. THAT MIGHT BAY GOOD SPOT JOUST PHASE APPROACH AND SEE HOW IT WORKS.

THERE IS ALSO IN THE DOT PLAN AND TPO THEY HAVE LITERATURE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE HAVE THE SUICIDE LANE AND MAYBE YOU PROVIDE A GREEN CAPE MEDIAN INSTEAD OF THE SUICIDE LANE WHICH ALLOWS TO YOU EXPAND THE TRAFFIC LANE WIDTH.

YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO TURNING MOVEMENTS WHEN YOU GET TO INTERSECTIONS. IT DOES CREATE A CHALLENGE.

THIS LOOKS MORE LIKE A RESTRIPING SCENARIO WHICH IS A LOCALITY CHEAPER THAN RECONSTRUCTION OF A ROAD.

IT'S ALSO RECLAIMING PORTIONS OF THE RIGHT OF WAY OTHER THAN AUTOMOBILE USES. SO YOU ARE THE ABILITY TO HAVE A MULTIPURPOSE TRAIL AND EXPANDED SIDEWALKS ON EITHER SIDE AND IMPROVE LANDSCAPING ON EITHER SIDE WHICH REDUCES SPEED,

IMPROVES THE -- >> I REMEMBER THE CHANGES WHEN ORANGE WENT DOWN TWO. THE WORLD WAS GOING END ON THAT DAY. WE'VE MADE IT AND WE'RE DOING

OK. >> THERE IS USUALLY INITIAL RESISTANCE UP FRONT. AS TIME GOES ON THE BENEFITS OF

THE CHANGES BECOME APPARENT. >> THANK YOU.

>> THE NEXT SECTION LOOKED AT IS DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING , JR.

BOULEVARD. WE SHOW THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY 100 FEET RIGHT NOW. AND YOU HAVE FOUR LANES AND LIMITED LANDSCAPE MEDIAN TURNING LANE.

WE'RE PROPOSING HAVING TWO LANEE FOUR LANES BUT ON STREET PARKING IN THE EVENING FROM 7:00 P.M. TO 1:00 P.M. IN THE MORNING.

TO HAVE TWO LANES AVAILABLE, HAVING A MULTIPURPOSE SIDEWALK ON EITHER SIDE ALONG WITH AN EIGHT FOOT ACTIVITY LANDSCAPE AS WELL. THIS IS IMPROVED THE ADD ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACE TO THE AREA.

ALSO PROVIDE A SAFER ROUTE FOR BIKERS THAT ARE NOT IN THE TRAVEL LANE. GET THEM OUTSIDE THE TRAVEL LANE AND PROVIDE PARK FOR SUBSEQUENT NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ALONG THAT ROAD. ONCE AGAIN THIS IS WITHIN THE EXISTING ROADWAY RIGHT OF WAY OF 100 FEET.

THE NEXT STREET WE LOOKED AT WAS AVENUE D, ONE OF YOUR MAJOR EAST WEST CONNECTOR STREETS, NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTOR AND COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR AS WELL. YOU HAVE DONE A PREVIOUS STREET SCAPING FOR THIS. THIS PROVIDES OR PROPOSES A FRESHENING OF THAT STREETSCAPE USING THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY.

YOU HAVE A 40 FOOL RIGHT OF WAY IN THIS AREA.

WE WOULD EXAND IF CORNERS TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, HAVING CANOPY TREES INSTALLED AND PUTTING THE EXPANDED SIDEWALK AND ALSO EXPANDED PEDESTRIAN AREAS ON NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET. ALL OF THIS IS WITHIN THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY. AVENUE H RUNS EAST WEST ALMOST TO THE WATER FRONT. HERE THE RIGHT OF SWAY 75.

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WE HAVE TRAVEL AND TWO LANES OF PARALLEL PARKING AS WELL.

ALSO A TEN FOOT BUFFER ON ONE SIDE AND FOUR FOOT SIDEWALK INTERMITTENT SIDEWALK EXISTING RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE PROPOSING TWO TEN AND A HALF FOOT TRAVEL LANES, ALSO A SIDEWALK RIBBON WITHIN THAT 45-FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.

THIS ADD AS DIVISIONAL FEATURES AND NON-AUTOMOBILE AMENITIES WITHIN THESE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY ENVELOPES YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW. THAT WOULD ENABLE ADDITIONAL PEDESTRIAN TRAVEL AND SAFER PEDESTRIAN TRAVEL AND BIKE

TRAVEL AS WELL. >> I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT IS WESTBOUND. AVENUE I CONNECTS LINCOLN PARK

TO THE SCHOOL. >> IT ENDS AT 13TH AND THIS

MAKE ACE JOG TO H. >> GOT IT.

>> HERE WE'RE LOOKING AT ORANGE AVENU IN THE DOWNTOWN.

THIS IS WHERE THE RIGHT OF WAY SHRINKS.

NOW YOUR RIGHT OF WAY IS 64 FEET.

YOU HAVE TWO 15-FOOT TRAVEL LANES.

TEN FOOT PEDESTRIAN AREA ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET.

TWO TRAVEL LANES AND THIS IS WHERE IT WOULD TURN INTO A COMPLETE STREET. AS YOU CROSS RAILROAD TRACKS YOU WOULD HAVE A FLUSH CURB SYSTEM. AND YOU WOULD HAVE THE IMPROVED LANDSCAPING. YOU WOULD REMOVE SOME OF YOUR PARKING PLACES. SOME OF YOUR PARKING PLACES TO HAVE IMPROVED LANDSCAPING. EXPAND YOUR PEDESTRIAN AND CYCLING AREA TIE 13-FOOT ACTIVITY AREA ON THE SIDEWALK.

8-FOOT PARKING AND LANDSCAPE AREA ON EITHER SIDE OF THE STREET. SO THAT IF THE CITY IS HAVING A FESTIVAL IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA THIS IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO CLOSE DOWN THIS SECTION OF THE STREET TEMPORARILY AND USE THIS AS A FESTIVAL STREET.

WE'RE PROPOSING A POTENTIAL PEDESTRIAN ZONE ON ORANGE AVENUE AND 2ND STREET IN A CROSS SHAPE SO WHEN YOU HAVE DOWNTOWN EVENTS AND FESTIVITIES, STRUCK THIS ENTIRE AREA BE A PEDESTRIAN ZONE, A PEDESTRIAN MALL WHERE PEOPLE COULD WALK.

YOU ARE KIND OF OMITTING THE BUSINESS.

IT'S A LOT OF RESTAURANT WITHIN ONE BLOCK.

>> YES, SIR. >> BOTH SIDES.

>> YES, SIR. PARKING IN FRONT -- EVERY ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS THERE ZERO LOT LINE.

>> YES, SIR. >> YOU TAKE AGO TAKING AWAY THEG SPACES, YOU HAVE THE CUSTOMERS GO TO ANOTHER AREA WHERE THERE IS PLENTY OF PARKING AND THAT IS NOT FAIR TO THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN BITING THE BULLET HERE FOR THE LAST TWO TO THREE YEARS.

WHAT SENSE DOES HA MAKE FOR A FESTIVAL ROAD?

>> THE TRADE OFF IS YOU WOULD LOSE A LIMITED NUMBER OF PARKING PLACES. BUT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO INCREASE THE ACTIVITY AREA IN FRONT OF THE RESTAURANTS FOR ADDITIONAL OUTDOOR SEATING AND ADDITIONAL ACTIVITY FROM N FRONT OF THOSE RESTAURANTS SO THEY COULD EXPAND THEIR SEATING AREA

OUT ON TO THE SIDEWALK. >> HAVE YOU SPOKE ON THE ANY OF

THE RESTAURANT OWNERS? >> I HAVE NOT.

>> THE PARKS SPACES JUST FOR TABLES.

THEY CAN POTABLES OUTSIDE NOW IF THEY WANT TO.

>> THEY HAVE A VERY LIMBED SPACE AT THIS TIME.

THIS IS PROPOSING TO DOUBLE THAT SPACE OF SIDEWALK AREA SO THEY COULD HAVE ADDITIONAL TABLE SPACE.

>> YOU ARE ELIMINATING PARKING IN FRONT OF THEIR BUSINESS.

>> YES, SIR. >> PEOPLE CAN'T PARK IN THE SUNRISE PARKING LOT BECAUSE THEY GET TOWED.

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CAN'T PARK BEHIND THE OTHER NORTHERN PORTION BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN TOWED. YOU ARE TAKING AWAY AND I'M

ASKING A QUESTION. >> IT'S A VALID QUESTION.

>> I DON'T HAVE A BUSINESS DOWN THERE.

BUT I KNOW THE BUSINESS OWNERS. AND I KNOW THEY DON'T WANT TO ELIMINATE PARKING IN FRONT OF THEIR PLACE OF BUSINESS.

IT'S HARD ENOUGH NOW FOR THE EMPLOYEES TO FIND PARKING

SPACES. >> IS THERE A CLOSE PROXIMITY OF SURFACE PARKING AND THE CITY'S PARKING GARAGE THESE TWO STREETS. AND THE AMOUNT OF POTENTIALLY LOST PARKING SPACES WOULD BE MINIMIZED.

SO IT'S NOT TAKING ALL OF THE ON STREET PARKING.

IT'S TAKING ONE OR WITH SPACES FOR ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AND ACTIVITY AREA IN FRONT OF THE RESTAURANTS.

I THINK THE NEXT SLIDE WILL ILLUSTRATE THAT.

THIS WOULD BE SECOND STREET DOWNTOWN.

AND SO YOU SEE THE EXISTING WITH THE TEN FOOT TRAVEL LANES.

THIS IS ONCE AGAIN INSIDE YOUR 56-FOOT RIGHT OF WAY AREA.

YOUR TEN FOOT PEDESTRIAN AREAS AND 8-FOOT PARKING LANES.

YOU SEE THE EXPANDED AREA ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE.

THE EXPANDED PEDESTRIAN AREA OUT TO TEN FEET AND THE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING TAKING ALMOST EVERY OTHER ALTERNATING PARKING SPACE FOR ADDITIONAL SIDEWALK ACTIVITY AREA AND ALSO LANDSCAPING.

>> IF I COULD INTERJECT. IF YOU GO BACK A SLIDE.

EVEN THE LAST SCREEN SHOWS IT. THERE IS A COUPLE OF THINGS AND THOUGHTS. ONLY AVENUE WHEN YOU SHOWED THE ORANGE AVENUE SLIDE, THAT SECTION IN MY REFERENCE POINT BOWLED I'M STAND TINGING ON THE TRAIN TRACK LOOKING EAST.

>> YES, SIR. >> WE ONLY HAVE 14 PARKS SPACES THERE. IT'S ABOUT CHANGING THE CULTURE OF WHERE YOU CAN PARK AND PARKING IN A PARKING GARAGE AND WALKING TO YOUR DESTINATION. THAT'S A CULTURAL CHANGE.

THAT'S JUST -- >> I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH HANDICAP PEOPLE. PEOPLE THAT CAN'T WALK FROM THIS

GARAGE DOWN TO THAT AREA? >> IF YOU GO TO ANY CITY LARGER THAN OURS, YOU HAVE HANDICAP PARKING PLACES FIRST FLOOR IN THE PARKING GARAGE AND ADA ACCESSIBLE SIDEWALKS OR THEY GET DROPPED OFF. THERE ARE MANY OPTION.

I KNOW THAT IN OTHER CITIES AND GROWING CITIES THAT'S WHAT THEY LOOK AT. THE NEXT SLIDE IN TPO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND PLANNING FOR GREENWAYS AND TRAILS.

AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT SECOND STREET MEETS THE MULTIMODAL REQUIREMENT OR DESIGNATION IF SECOND STREET BECOMES OUR GREENWAY THROUGH DOWNTON.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE MEET THOSE CONDITIONS TOO.

THE OTHER CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE IS IF THAT DOES BECOME THE GREENWAY AND TRAIL THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF DOWNTOWN, WE HAVE THE CITY'S PARKING GARAGE AND COUNTY PARKING GARAGE NEXT TO THE COURTHOUSE. I THINK COMMISSIONER HUTCHSON SAID IT SIX OR EIGHT MONTHS AGO, MAYBE A YEAR AGO WE'RE GOING THE HAVE TO OPEN UP THE CONVERSATION FOR EXPANDING THE COUNTY'S PARKING GARAGE AND SHE TALKED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THERE WAS A DESIGN. THAT WOULD MAKE UP THE LOST SPACES ON SECOND STREETISM COUNTED AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER. I USUALLY REMEMBER THOSE.

IT WAS 90 OR 100 ALONG SECOND STREET.

IF YOU CAN MAKE UP THAT IN A PARKING GARAGE ENHANCEMENT THEN WE'RE COVERED. BUT I THINK THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE THE FACE. AND IT IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

WE HAVE TO GET USED TO THAT. I THINK THERE IS PLENTY OF PARKING DOWNTOWN RIGHT NOW. YOU HAVE TO WALK.

>> THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE PROPOSED COMPLETE STREET IF IT WAS CLOSED. SAY THE NIGHTTIME EXPERIENCE.

>> GOING BACK TO THAT SLIDE AGAIN.

LET'S FACE IT AS FAR AS FORT PIERCE IS CONCERNED, IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FROM THE BEGINNING OF TIME PARKING.

AND YOU HAD PARKING SPACES IN FRONT OF THE BUILD THAT IS DID BUSINESS WHICH MADE IT CONVENIENT FOR INDIVIDUALS TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF THEIR CAR AND GO INTO A BUSINESS.

BUT I JUST LEFT MIAMI, THERE IS NO ON STREET PARKING.

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BY THE SAME TOKEN, BEING ABLE TO PARK IS ESSENTIAL IF YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO CATER TO BUSINESSES. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THEY HAVE PARKING LOTS AND PARKING SPACES AND PARKING AREAS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. SO AS WE SIT HERE AND WE TRY TO DO AWAY WITH THE ON STREET PARKING, IT'S IMPERATIVE WE PROVIDE AN ALTERNATE FORM OF PARKING.

THE AVERAGE PERSON WHEN YOU TALK TO THEM ABOUT DOWNTOWN, THE COURTHOUSE PARKING OR CITY HALL PARKING IS SOMEWHAT, IT'S NOT REMOTE OR CLOSURE TO BE ABLE TO CATER TO A LOT OF THE LOCAL BUSINESSES. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT'S ESSENTIAL FOR US TO BE ABLE TO FIND SOME PARKING AND START LOOKING AND CONCENTRATING MORE ON PARKING IF WE'RE GOING THE DO

AWAY WITH THIS PARKING SPACE. >> I AGREE.

IT WOULD BE A COORDINATED EFFORT THE SAME TIME YOU ARE PLANNING POTENTIAL STREETSCAPES THAT WOULD REDUCE THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES. THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE PROPOSED SECOND STREET IMPROVEMENTS IN THE NIGHTTIME WHEN THE STREET WOULD BE CLOSED. YOU SEE THE CURB IS A MOUNTABLE

CURB. >>> IT'S FLAT AND FLUSH.

WHEN YOU STEP OFF THE CURB AND WALK ACROSS THE STREET YOU DON'T TRIP AND FALL. YOU CAN EXPAND THE ACTIVITY AREA ON TO THE STREET AND HAVE RESTAURANT SEATING AND PEDESTRIANS FILLING THE ENTIRE STREET.

THE INTENT IS TO TURN THIS INTO A FESTIVAL STREET.

>> IT WAS AT ONE TIME CLOSED OFF WITH NO TRAFFIC.

>> I SAW THOSE PICTURES FROM 1972 OR 74 IS WHEN THAT WAS

GOING ON. >> I WAS NOT LIVING HERE THEN.

BUT I REMEMBER IT WHEN I VISIT. >> THE NEXT ITEMS WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT ARE AREAS LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA. WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS WE HAVE NORTH 13TH STREET AND MOORE'S CREEK.

WE'RE ABLE TO SHOW SOME OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS HERE ON THE LEFT. RESIDENTIAL AREA SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE AREA. THERE IS SOME CUT THROUGH PARKS TRAILS. RIGHT NOW REVITALIZED PARK IS PEDESTRIAN THOROUGH FARE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE'RE PROPOSING ADDING ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT ALONG 14TH. HOME SITUATED CLOSER TO THE CANAL PARK AREA TO ACTIVATE THE AREAS.

MORE EYES ON THE STREET. AND PUT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT CLOSER TO THE FRONT OF THE STREET BLOCK TO ACTIVATE THAT STREETSCAPE AREA. THE NEXT MODEL BLOCK WE'RE LOOKING AT IS AVENUE D BY THE MULTIMODAL STATION.

YOU SEE THE MULTIMODAL STATION RIGHT HERE.

THE FIRE STATION HERE IN THE OLD VETERAN SERVICE AREA THAT IS GOING TO BE MOVING OUT. SO WE HAVE AN EXPANSIVE VACANT LOT THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR A RANGE OF DIFFERENT USES IN THIS AREA.

AND WE'RE PROPOSING SOME ADDITIONAL RESIDENCES ALONG THE MOORE'S CREEK TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT PARK AS AN AMENITY.

RESIDENCES ORIENTED TOWARDS THE CREEK ITSELF AND TO SCREEN THE PARKING THAT IS BEHIND IT. AND ALSO HAVE NEW PARKING AREA, ACCESS BEHIND THE FIRE STATION. AND ALSO MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT ON THE CORNER ALLOWING FOR UPSTAIRS LIVING AND DOWNSTAIRS RETAIL IN ORDER TO BRING PEOPLE TO THE STREET AND ENGAGE PEDESTRIANS ON THE STREET. THIS IS KIND OF A MODEL BLOCK HERE. AND THE INTENT OF THE MODEL BLOCKS IS TO DEMONSTRATE THE DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO SAY THIS IS WHAT YOU COULD BUILD HERE.

THESE ARE THE NATURAL AMENITIES THE CITY IS INVESTED IN.

THE PARK IS A GREAT ASSET THAT IS NOT BEING FULLY UTILIZED YET AIM LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE TO LIVE NEXT TO THAT.

>> YOU BRING UP A POINT , THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE AN INVESTMENT FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

>> YES, SIR. >> HAVE YOU GOTTEN WITH THE LOCAL REALERS OR INDIVIDUALS OR GOTTEN INPUT ON INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE DEVELOPING IN OUR AREA RIGHT NOW AND GET THEIR VISION IF ANY AT ALL FOR PURPOSES OF DEVELOPING AND PUTTING RESIDENTIAL APARTMENTS THERE OR SHOULD WE CONCENTRATE ON THE

COMMERCIAL ASPECT OF IT? >> YES, SIR, WE HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE LOCAL DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY FROM THE BEGINNING OF

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THE PROCESS. THE DIRECTION WE'VE RECEIVED IF THEM IS HOW CAN WE MANAGE THE REDEVELOPMENT PROCESS, HOW DO WE DEMONSTRATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THEM SO THEY CAN SEE THEIR INVESTMENT WILL NOT BE WASTED. SO THEY WANT TO FOLLOW PUBLIC INVESTMENT. THEY WANT TO SEE THAT DEMONSTRATION OF COMMITMENT FROM THE CITY AND THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY BEFORE THEY PUT THEIR MONEY DOWN.

AND I THINK THE IDEAS THAT ARE PROPOSED IN THIS PLAN DEMONSTRATE THE CITY'S COMMITMENT TOWARDS THAT AND ALSO SHOWS THEM POTENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY COULD REALIZE BY INVESTING IN THE AREA.

THOSE CONVERSATIONS OCCURRED AT THE VERY BEGINNING AND CONTINUE

AS WE GO THROUGH HAD PROCESS. >> THIS PROPERTY THAT YOU DISPLAYING NOW, THAT IS COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY?

>> YES, SIR. >> ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT?

>> YES. >> THAT WHOLE COMPLEX THERE.

>> YES, SIR. >> SO THE COUNTY IS A PARTNER BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO SUPPORT THE FPRA.

>> YES, SIR. >> IS THAT WHAT THEY THEIR PLANS ARE? OR WAREHOUSE ITALIAN WE ARE

GOING TO DICTATE IT SHALL. >> THE PLANS FOR THIS PROPERTY IS IT'S GOING TO BE SURPLUSSED. WHAT THIS PLAN IS DOING IS DEMONSTRATING REDEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL FOR THEIR THANKSGIVING AREA. IT'S NOT TELLING THE COUNTY WHAT IT COULD DO WITH THE PROPERTY. IT'S OUTLINING WHAT THE POTENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT COULD BE ON THAT PROPERTY.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT HOW DO WE INITIATE THAT? I FORTH WE GOT A CONNECTION RIGHT HERE.

I'M SERIOUS ABOUT IT. THE COUNTY TORE DOWN BUILDINGS AND THEY GOT PROPERTY PREPPED TO BUILD OR WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. I HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

I BELIEVE EVERYBODY REALIZE IMPORTANCE.

I I THINK WITH THAT BEING SAID WE ARE NOT GOING TO WATCH A WHOLE LOT OF SLACK WHEN IT COMES TO GETTING THE COUNTY OR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR ANYBODY FOR THAT MATTER TO PARTNERSHIP WITH US REALIZING THE NECESSITY AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS.

IN TRYING TO REDEVELOP THINGS OVER THERE.

WE TRIED THIS ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO AND WE GOT EVERYBODY TO CONTRIBUTE IN THE REDEVELOPMENT WE SPENT $1.5 MILLION GOING IN THERE. AND EVERYBODY WAS WILLING TO DO SO BECAUSE THEY REALIZED THE% IMPORTANCE OF DRY OF TRYING TO P THAT STREET. I THINK TIMING IS RIGHT.

IT MAY NOT BE AS DIFFICULT AS WE THINK.

>> I'M MAKING SURE HE'S AWARE THIS THE COUNTY OWNED THAT PROPERTY. AND COUNTY IS A 50/50 PARTNER

WITH US RIGHT? >> RIGHT.

>> I REMEMBER WHEN THAT CAME BEFORE US.

>> I THINKLESSLY HAS BEEN ATTENDING ALL THESE MEETING.

STAFF IS TALKING TO HER, SHE'S PLANNING DIRECTOR AT THE COUNTY.

I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE PART OF THE BUILDING WHICH IS THE OLD JAILHOUSE TO BE TORN DOWN WITH THE BLESSING OF THE COUNTY COMMISSION. THINKING AND HAVING A FORWARD THINKING VISION OF WHAT YOU DO WITH THAT CORNER, RECENTLY WE TALKED ABOUT IN ONE OF OUR INFORMAL MEETINGS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY SERVICES GROUP MOVING FROM THAT LOCATION TO TO THE OLD FIRE HOUSE INTO OLD CITY HALL. SO THAT SOMETHING CAN BE DONE WITH THAT BUILDING WHICH WAS BUILT IN 19 WHO KNOWS WHEN.

IT'S LISTED SOMEWHERE. IT'S OLD.

SO WITH COUNTY STAFF AND PLANNING, THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF IDEAS. I HAVEN'T EVEN HEARD THEM ALL.

THIS IS GOOD. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT THE INTERSECTION FOR MULTIPLE YEARS NOW. I BELIEVE IT'S GENERAL COMMERCIAL RIGHT NOW. THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY AND YOU GOT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MORE STREET IN THE FRONTAGE.

>> I'VE BEEN TO THE CLEANUP AS LONG MOORE'S CREEK.

ONE THING IS SOME OF THE HOUSES SIT SO FAR BACK THERE IS NO TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE CREEK. LIKE THIS LIKE YOU SAY THIS WOULD REALLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF BEING ON IT.

AND THEN PEOPLE WOULD BE INVESTED IN KEEPING IT CLEAN.

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>> IT WOULD BE AN AMEN TITO HAVE THAT OUTSIDE YOUR FRONT DOOR.

EVEN WHEN YOU BRING VISITORS HERE AND RIDE THEM DOWN AVENUE D MOORE'S CREEK. WHEN YOU GO ACROSS A BRIDGE AND THEY LOOK DOWN. IS THIS FORT PIERCE, IS THIS AVENUE D BECAUSE THEY ARE SO AMAZED AT THE BEAUTY OF MOORE'S CREEK. WE JUST GOT TO FEED OFF OF IT.

AND MAKE THAT TO SOME DEGREE OUR SEED.

WE PLANT A SEED THERE IS NO TELLING.

WE SEW IT RIGHT WE'LL REAP THE BENEFIT.

WE HAVEN'T BEEN DOING THAT. >> YOU MADE THE INITIAL INVESTMENT. THAT'S THE TOUGHEST THING TAKE THE FIRST STEP. YOU'VE DONE THAT.

NOW IT'S TIME TO BUILD ON THAT. >> AND CONNECTIVITY PORTION.

IT'S FOUR OR FIVE BLOCKS. >> THE NEXT MODEL BLOCK IS BY THE OLD AN STAYS I CAN'T BUILDING.

IT'S LOCATED ON ORANGE AVENUE AND 10TH STREET.

PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ALONG 10TH STREET SOUTH OF THE BUILDING.

THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING IS TO BE RESPECTED.

WE DON'T WANT TO BUILD ANYTHING THAT COMES TO THE NEAR OF THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING. WE WANT THE CHARACTER TO ESTABLISH THE TONE FOR THAT BLOCK.

IT COULD BE COMMENTED BY ONE OR TWO STORY COMMERCIAL ORIENTED TOWARDS ORANGE AVENUE AND ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL DENSITY ON NIGHT AND 10TH TO FILL IN THAT AREA AND PROVIDE ACTIVATION OF THE COMMERCIAL AREA ON ORANGE AVENUE.

SO YOU'VE GOT A GREAT OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR IN FILL DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE SCHOOL. THE NEXT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL MODEL BLOCK. AND THIS IS LOCATED NEAR INDIAN RIVER STATE COLLEGE. THERE IS A -- THIS IS AVENUE D

AND 29TH STREET. >> THE LIBRARY.

>> AND THERE IS A VACANT PROPERTY HERE.

THIS IS CITY OWNED PROPERTY. >> WE CAN DO THIS.

SO THE STUDENT FOR NEIGHBORHOOD GROCERY AND RETAIL AS A NEED IN THIS AREA. IT'S A RESIDENTIAL AREA PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL. IT'S QUITE A DISTANCE FROM ANY LARGE RETAIL OR NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL IN THIS AREA.

YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR TOWN HOMES TO INCREASE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY IN ORDER TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PROXIMITY OF THE EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES AND THE LIBRARY.

YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR POTENTIAL LINEAR PARK TO BE DEVELOPED AS WELL. AND THE EXISTING LANDSCAPE CAN BE USED AS A BUFFER BETWEEN THE RETAIL AND THE INSTITUTIONAL USES. YOU CAN PUT YOUR PARKING IN THE MIDDLE THERE AND HAVE A LANDSCAPE BUFFER AS WELL.

PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT PROGRAMMING.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THE FORMATTING. WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR HANDOUTS IS THE ALL THE DETAIL OF WHAT THESE PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT PROGRAMMING TOPICS ADDRES. THEY ADDRESS THE BIG GOAL OF HOUSE, THEY ADDRESS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, A COMMUNITY AND CULTURE, THEY ADDRESS INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC SPACES AND AMENITIES, PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY AND THE REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT. THESE ARE THE DAY-TO-DAY OBJECTIVES AND OPERATIONLE GUIDELINES FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCIES. THEY ARE ALSO IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FLORIDA STATUTE WITH REGARD TO THE OPERATION OF A REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY AND THE CONTENTS OF A CRA PLAN.

TIFF REVENUES. THIS IS SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE BEGINNING. BASED ON LAST YEAR'S DATA THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO RESEARCH. YOUR CURRENTLY GENERATING 6.3 MILLION IN TIFF REVENUE AND OTHER REVENUE PER YEAR.

YOU ARE PAYING 5.2 IN DEBT SERVICE PER YEAR.

GOUDA GOING TO HAVE 1.1 TO 1.7 MILLION FOR PROJECTS ANNUALLY FROM 2020 THROUGH 2022. AFTER 2022 YOU START PAYING OFF

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YOUR DEBT SERVICE REQUIREMENTS OR YOUR DEBT SERVICE OBLIGATIONS. AND YOUR LAST DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT IS IN 2032. AFTER 2032 THERE IS NO MORE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS CENTERED WITH THE FORT PIERCE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY. FROM 2020 THROUGH 2042LESSING OUT ALL OF YOUR DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS THE FPRA WILL GENERATE $165 MILLION IN TAX INCREMENT FUND REVENUE.

THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT DOLLAR AMOUNT OVER A 22 YEAR SPAN.

THAT CAN BE APPLIED TO THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND DIFFERENT PROGRAMMING THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED HERE TONIGHT.

THE NEXT STEPS IN THE PROCESS INPUT THE COMMENTS AND REVISIONS RECEIVED TONIGHT FROM THE CITY TEAM AND ALSO FROM THE FORT PIERCE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY. WE'RE GOING TO PREPARE THE PROJECT AND PROGRAMMING COST DETAILS AND PROVIDE YOU A FIVE YEAR BUDGET WORK SHEET YOU CAN USE WHEN YOU ARE PREPARING YOUR ANNUAL BUDGET. WE'LL FINALIZE AND FORMAT THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN DOCUMENT, THE ACTUAL HOLD IN YOUR HAND DOCUMENT. PREPARE THE ADOPTION RESOLUTION FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY AND PREPARE THE ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY COMMISSION TO ADOPT THE EXTENDED OPERATIONAL TIME FRAME OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY AND ALSO ADOPT THE PLAN AND SUBMIT THE UPDATED PLAN TO THE LOCAL REGULATORY BODIES FOR THEIR REVIEW , THE TAXING AUTHORITIES AND PRESENT FINAL APPROVAL AND

ADOPTION. >> EASY.

SO THAT IS THE PRESENTATION. AT THIS TIME I'D OPEN UTFA UP FOR ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

>> I HAVE A COUPLE. DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE OPPORTUNITY ZONES ARE HERE DONALD THEY OVERLAP ANY IS.

>> TWO OF THEM. >> DOES THAT AFFECT HOW DOES HA

AFFECT ANYTHING? >> WHAT THAT YOU THANKSGIVING DOES IS IT PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CERTIFIED OPPORTUNITY ZONE FOUNDS INVEST IN THAT AREA OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA. WHAT THAT MEANS --

>> FAVORABLE TAX CLIMATE FOR SOMEONE TO INVEST IN THE AGENCY OR THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO BE MARKETING PARCELS OR BUSINESSES TO THE APPROVED ZONED FUNDS THAT WOULD THEN INVEST IN THE AREA.

SO YOU WOULD CREATE A LISTING OF THE POTENTIAL PARCELS OR BUSINESSES THAT ARE WITHIN THE ZONES AND MARKET THEM TO THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ZONE FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND ESTABLISHED. AND --

>> DO WE KNOW ABOUT WHERE THE OPPORTUNITY ZONES INTERACT WITH

THE FPRA? >> THERE IS.

>> I KNOW IT'S NORTH AND NEAR DIXIE HIGHWAY IS MY MEMORY WHERE

THE OPPORTUNITY ZONES ARE. >> I HAVE A MAP BUT I DON'T HAVE

IT WITH ME. >> I HAVE ONE IN MY OFFICE UPSTAIRS TOO. SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO

KEEP IN MIND. >> YES, MA'AM.

I CAN PROVIDE WITH YOU A LIST OF THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE FUND AND CONTACTS IN THE AREAS AND TYPE OF INVESTMENTS THAT THEY ARE FOCUSING ON. AND THEN IT WOULD BE THE CITY'S BEHALF AND YOU MAY DISCUSS THIS WHY N YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PRESENTATION THAT IS UP COMING TO GET THAT INFORMATION IN FRONT OF THOSE OPPORTUNITY ZONE FUND MANAGERS AND LET THEM KNOW THEY

CAN INVEST IN THIS AREA. >> I DON'T THINK IT GOES AS FAR WEST AS YOU WERE PROPOSING THE GROCERY STORE BUT I THINK A NEIGHBORHOOD GROCERY STORE SINCE THAT AREA IS A FOOD DESERT WOULD

BE PRIME. >> YOU GOT THE PLANS AND

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EVERYTHING. >> WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONSTRUCTION PLANS. WE HAVE CONCEPTUAL PLANS.

I BELIEVE THERE ARE OTHER AREAS PRESENT TODAY.

I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF FINDING THE RIGHT INVESTOR AND COMMUNITY

PARTNER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. >> I LIKE WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE. AND I THINK WHAT IS REAL IMPORTANT IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR IN ORDER TO INVEST IN THE PROPERTY.

BECAUSE WE CAN PAVE THESE STREETS GOLD AND IF WE DON'T HAVE A DEVELOPMENT TO COME IN AND PUT THE BUSINESSES IN THERE THAT ARE GOING TO MAKE THESE CORRIDORS THRIVE THEN IT'S ALL IN VAIN. WE SPENT ALL THIS MONEY AND WE IMPROVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE. BUT THE PROPERTY OWNERS WERE NOT INVESTING IN THE PROPERTY. SO IT SORT OF MADE THINGS LAG BEHIND. MY POINT IS THIS.

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A STRONG SOURCE OF PROVIDING OR GIVING THE DEVELOPERS MOTIVATION IN TERMS OF THE GRANT DOLLARS.

>> YES, SIR. >> EVEN LONG AVENUE D IF YOU NOTICE ALL THOSE BUSINESSES THAT WERE RECONSTRUCTED OR WENT IN AND MADE CHANGES AND DID A LOT OF WORK, A LOT OF THEM WERE ACQUIRED BY DOLLARS FROM THE CITY.

THAT'S WHAT MOVED THEM. SO IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE -- WE NEED THAT ELEMENT IN THERE WHERE WE CAN PROVIDE INDIVIDUALS THAT WANT TO IMPROVE THEIR PROPERTY SOME FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, YOU WILL SEE MORE PARTICIPATION FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

BUT TO GO PAVE THE STREETS OF GOLD AND PUT THE NICE LIGHTS UP AND ON STREET PARKING THEY'LL SIT THERE AND DO BUSINESS AS USUAL. YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A MOTIVATION PIECE THIS THERE AND IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT MONEY TO

MOTIVATE THEM. >> ONE OF THE BEST FINANCIAL INCENTIVES YOU HAVE AVAILABLE AS A CRA IS A TAX REBAIT.

IT'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF NEW TAXES.

YOU CAN REFUND A CERTAIN PORTION OF THAT TAX INCREMENT THAT IS GENERATED FROM THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT.

THAT TO THAT DEVELOPER FOR A SET PERIOD OF TIME TO LESSON THEIR OVERALL TAX BURDEN AND ACT AS AN INCENTIVE THEM TO INVEST IN THE

AREA. >> WE ARE DOING THAT WITH KINGS

LANDING AREN'T WE? >> YOU HAVE THAT WITHIN YOUR

ARSENAL RIGHT NOW. >> THAT'S GOOD.

FAR SECTOR AND THIS MAGNITUDE. THAT MOM AND POP OPERATION THAT JUST MAKING IT FROM DAY-TO-DAY, THEY DON'T THINK THE LONG TERM VISION OF AN INCENTIVE FROM TAXES.

THEY THINK ABOUT IN ORDER TO IMPROVE THE PROPERTIES AND GOING IN AND REDOING THE BUILDINGS SO THAT IS GOOD BUT WE NEED TO HAVE MORE OF A DIRECT IMPACT FINANCIALLY TO MOTIVATE THESE PROPERTY OWNERS SO THAT THEY CAN GO IN AND REJUVENATE THESE

BUILDINGS. >> YES, SIR.

AND PROGRAMS LIKE THAT ARE ARTICULATED IN THE REDEVELOPMENT PROGRAMMING PORTION OF THE PLAN WHETHER IT'S A STABILIZATION GRANT OR RESIDENTIAL REHABILITATION GRANT OR COMMERCIAL REHABILITATION GRANT. THOSE CAN BE USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE TAX INCREMENT FUND REBAIT.

STRUCK AN INCENTIVE ON THE FRONT END, A CASH INCENTIVE HELP THEM MAKE THE INVESTMENT AND DO THE IMPROVEMENT.

AND A LONGER TERM INCENTIVE FOR THEM TOLESSEN THE FINANCIAL CARRYING BURDEN OF THE TAXES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT NEW

INVESTMENT. >> SO YOU CAN HELP THEM ON BOTH

SIDES OF THE EQUATION. >> WHEN I HEAR YOU TALKING LIKE THAT, AGAIN I SAY YEAR AFTER YEAR, BEEN HERE 18 YEARS.

AND EVERY YEAR THEY GOT A PLAN FOR THE NEXT YEAR.

AND WHEN I LOOK AT MY DISTRICT. TAKE ORANGE AVENUE AND AVENUE D.

WE LIVE ANYWAY HISTORICAL COMMUNITY.

TO REHAB THOSE BUILDINGS, THE CITY KICK THEM IN THE BUTT EVERY TIME. THAT'S WHY YOU SEE SO MANY VACANT PROPERTIES BECAUSE THEY CAN'T BRING THEM UP TO CODE.

WHY IS IT THAT -- I REMEMBER THE PAIR PROPERTY SPENT

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$5.5 MILLION. IF THEY DISPERSED IT ON ORANGE AVENUE AND AVENUE D, WE WOULDN'T BE TALKING TODAY ABOUT BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WOULD COME UP AND STAND UP AND BE ACCOUNTABLE.

WHEN YOU START WASTING 5 MUNICIPAL DOLLARS, THAT'S WHY WE ARE PAYING $5 MILLION DEBTS EVERY YEAR NOW BECAUSE OF THE MONEY WE WASTED AND THE PROPERTIES WE'RE NOT UTILIZING.

WE GOT FISHERMAN'S WHATEVERMENT IT'S GOING TO BE UP TO US TO DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH FISHERMAN WHATEVER.

SO MUCH ACTIVITY GOING ON IN THE PORTS AND WE ARE SITTING BACK FOLDING OUR ARMS. I'M NOT ADVOCATING WASTING ANYMORE MONEY. BUT AGAIN, IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING ABOUT THOSE CORRIDORS, AVENUE D AND ORANGE AVENUE, WILL BE VACANT LOTS. THAT'S ALL THE CITY DOING NOW.

WE GO OUT THERE AND TEAR DOWN BUILDINGS THAT DON'T EVEN MATTER. JUST THAT BUILDING DON'T LOOK LIKE THE ONE ON THE BEACH OR DON'T LOOK LIKE THE ONEDOWN YOU KNOW. WE SPEND MORE MONEY DOWNTOWN THAN YOU CAN SHAKE A STICK AT. THAT'S JUST ONE COMMISSIONER

TALKING. >> THAT'S CHALLENGE YOU FACE AS COMMISSIONERS OF A REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY THE POLICY DETERMINATION WHERE TO SPEND IS THETH RESOURCES SO THEY HAVE THE MOST

IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY. >> DEFINE CRA, YOU TELL ME WHAT THE DEFINITION IS. BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS BLIGHT -- WHEN I TELL YOU MILLIONS OF DOLLARS JUST WASTED, FLUSHED DOWN THE TOILET. WHAT YOU TELL ME THE DEFINITION OF CRA. MAYBE I GOT THE WRONG CONCEPT.

>> YOU HAVE THE CORRECT CONCEPT SIR.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> THE OBJECTIVE OF THE CRA IS TO ADDRESS SLUM AND BLIGHT CONDITIONS AND IMPROVE HOUSING CONDITIONS. THAT'S YOUR MISSION.

>> IT'S JUST THAT WE FIVE INDIVIDUAL HAVE TO PUT THE POLICY IN PLACE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO -- THEN THE POLICY MAKERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> I AGREE. >> YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER INFORMATION FOR US? THIS IS PRETTY EXCITED.

>> I'M VERY EXCITED. I'D LIKE TO THANK THOSE WHO PUT

THE WORK IN FOR THIS. >> PROPOSING GOING 2042, I GUESS YOU ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT MORE DEBT.

I'M NOT GOING TO THINK ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU SIR. >> THANK YOU.

[B. CRA Advisory Committee's Quarterly Report and Recommendations]

>> THE NEXT ITEM IS THE CRA ADVISORY REPORT.

>> WE HAVE MULTIPLE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE HERE IN ATTENDANCE. THEY ARE AN ACTIVE AND LIVELY COMMITTEE. I DON'T KNOW WHO ALL IS GOING THE SPEAK BUT I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE TURNS.

I'M GOING TO LOOK TO THE CHAIR TO KICK US OFF.

>> WELCOME. >> WE HAVE CHRISTINE SECRETARY.

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WE GOT A GOOD FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

WE HAVE JOHN ONE OF OUR SENIOR MEMBERS BACK THERE AT THE END.

MR. CURTIS JOHNSON. ONE THING I CAN SAY I'VE BEEN IN THE CITY TRYING TO IMPROVE THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE HERE IN THE AREA. WE KNOW WHAT OUR TARGET IS.

MANY OF US TRAVEL TO A WORKSHOP ON RECOMMENDATION OF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE AND THEY ENJOYED IT.

I WANT TO ALSO SAY THAT MANY PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE BECOME BEFORE YOU, TONIGHT THREE, THREE SMALL RECOMMENDATIONS.

WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT SOME ADOPTED FROM OTHER CITIES.

SO MANY OF OUR BUSINESS PERSONS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND NORTHWEST SECTION OF FORT PIERCE STILL COMPLAINING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PERSONS WHO HANG AROUND THEIR BUSINESS.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY ARE HANGING AROUND BECAUSE IT'S UNSAFE OR THEY ARE HANGING AROUND BECAUSE SOME OF THEM TAKE THE MONEYS OUT THE DOOR GOING HOME AND THEY WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN THEY ARE PROTECTED. WE UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T VIOLATE PEOPLE'S CIVIL RIGHTS. WE CONTACTED MANY CITIES ACROSS FLORIDA AND THE ONE WE ARE GOING TO ASK JOHN TO COME ONE THE S THE ONE THAT ADOPTS SOME RELATION FROM ST. AUGUSTINE FLORIDA. WE WENT ON THE WEST COAST AND NORTH OF FLORIDA SUCH AS PENSACOLA AND OTHERS.

BUT WE FEEL THIS IS MORE OF THE ONE THAT IS ON OUR CLOSE KNITTED AREA IN FORT PIERCE. WE'LL MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE OTHER TWO. WE'LL GIVE MR. MURPHY A CHANCE TO COME UP AND START ON THAT ONE.

>> I'M JOHN. I HAVE TWO COPIES OF THE ORDINANCE. I'LL GIVE ONE TO THE CLERK AND ONE TO THE ATTORNEY. GIVE HER BOTH AND SHE'LL GIVE IT

TO THEM. >> IT'S 15 PAGES.

ANYWAY, IN ADDRESSING THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER THING I'VE GOTTEN THROUGH BEING ON THE CRA BOARD WHICH COUNTS THE HOMELESS IN THE AREA. THAT IS HOW WE GET OUR FUNDING IS BY THE COUNT WE GET. UNFORTUNATELY IT WAS A VERY COLD NIGHT THAT NIGHT. IT WAS 38-DEGREES ON THE 22ND.

I WAS UP AT 4:00 A.M. IN THE PARKING LOT AT WAL-MART AND INTO THE WOODS. THERE WAS NOT A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS. WE GOT A PRETTY GOOD COUNT.

THEY WERE IN SHELTERS AND THAT MADE IT EASY TO COUNT THEM.

WE FOUND LOTS IN CARS AND ON THE STREETS TOO.

IN ST. LUCIE THERE WAS 228 CHILDREN AND 4 '6" WERE ADULTS.

IT SAYS THERE THE ADULTS ARE UNSHELTERED AND 217 OF THE CHILDREN ARE UNSHELTERED. IN THEIR CARS WITH THEIR FAMILIES AND WHAT GNAT. MEANWHILE, THE PANHANDLING IS S A BIG PROBLEM. WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THAT.

AND ST. AUGUSTINE HAS A GOOD THING ON THAT.

THEIR DEMOGRAPHICS ARE SIMILAR TO OURS.

THEY TALK A LOT ABOUT THE RIGHTS OF EVERYBODY SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS TO HAVE FREE SPEECH. BUT IN THAT YOU CAN LIMIT WHERE AND WHEN THEY CAN TALK ABOUT THINGS.

SO ST. AUGUSTINE HAD AN ORDINANCE 18 -- 2018-106.

THEY'VE MODIFIED IT A FEW YEARS AGO.

AND BASIC LANGUAGE TALKS ABOUT SOLICITING AREAS AND LIMITED TO TIMES. THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT WITHIN 2A COMMERCIAL FACILITY. WITHIN 20 FEET OF A BUS OR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION FACILITY. PROHIBITED 20 FEET OF CASH

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DISPENSERS AND CREDIT DEPOSITS OR FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, TALKING ABOUT ANY PARKING LOTS, PARKING GARAGES, PARKING METERS, PARK PAY STATIONS. ALSO WITHIN 20 FEET OF ANY PUBLIC RESTROOMS OWNED AND OPERATED BY GOVERNMENT AGENCIES.

WITHIN 100 FEET OF ANY DAYCARE, SCHOOL INCLUDING KINDERGARTEN THROUGH 12TH GRADE. THERE IS A LOT OF DEFINITIONS IN HAS BEEN HANDLING. ALL THAT STUFF IS PROHIBITED IN THEIRS. I THINK THEY PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO RESEARCHING AND GOING THROUGH THE LAW AND.

WHY REINVENT THE WHEEL. IF WE TAKE THEIRS AND READAPT IT TO FIT US I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BAY LOT OF WORK.

THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS IT EFFECTS FROM PEOPLE FEELING SAFE OR HARASSED. PROPERTY TAX VALUES GET AFFECTED WHEN THESE BUSINESSES HAVE PAN HANDERS THERE.

PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH IT.

THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR SECURITY AND OTHER THINGS.

PAT MURPHY HAS SOME PROPERTIES AND I THOUGHT HE COULD TALK TO YOU. HE'S GOT A LOT OF EXPERIENCE

DEALING WITH IT. >> YES, SIR.

I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION. ST. AUGUSTINE, DID YOU TALK TO THEM PERSONALLY OR JUST LOOK AT THEIR ORDINANCE? IF THERE WAS A VIOLATION OF THAT, WHAT HAPPENS?

>> IF THERE WAS A VIOLATION, WHAT HAPPENS?

>> IT'S UNLEVEL, SO I GUESS THE POLICE DEAL WITH IT.

>> SO DO THEY GO TO A SHELTER OR THE LOCAL JAIL I'M ASSUMING?

>> I'M ASSUMING YEAH. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD EDUCATE THEM. I HAD THOUGHTS THAN BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'D HAVE TO COME ONE. I THOUGHT PERHAPS THEY COULD HAVE SOME KIND OF COURSE THAT WOULD OFFER A CERTIFICATE LIKE FOR A BUSINESS. YOU WOULD HAVE A SOLICITING PERMIT OR SOMETHING WHICH WOULD MEAN YOU'D HAVE TO READ A PAPER AND SIGN FOR IT THAT TELLS YOU A LAW.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD WORK OR NOT.

I'M SURE IF SOMEBODY CALLED IN A COMPLAINT THE POLICE WOULD EXPLAIN IT TO THEM. IT WOULD BAY NICE WAY TO KNOW WHO KNOWS AND WHO DOESN'T SO IT WOULD BE EASY TO TRACK.

>> DO WE HAVE ANYTHING IN PLACE NOW AS THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE?

>> NO. NOT THAT I KNOW OF.

>> POLICE HAVE ORDERS TO NOT ALLOW IT TO BE GOING ON IN CERTAIN AREA IF THEY SEE IT RIGHT?

>> WE CAN'T ENFORCE IT. THEY ARE PRETTY SMART AND THEY

ARGUE THEIR RIGHTS. >> THEY CAN TELL THEM TO MOVE ON, NO SOLICITATION AND NO LOTTERY, THEY CAN TELL THEM

THAT. >> I DON'T KNOW HA THINK DO.

THEY WALK UP TO THEM AND TELL THEM THEY GOT TOTH CITY COMMISSIONER SAY THEY GOT TO MOVE ON.

>> THAT'S GOOD. >> I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOOD OR

NOT. >> NOT LOITERING IN FRONT OF OUR BUSINESS. IF I TELL HIM ONE TIME, THEN POLICE TELL HIM ONE TIME, THEN I GUESS YOU ARE GOING LET HIM STAND THERE.

>> I THINK PAT HAS EXPERIENCE WITH THIS.

HE'S GOT A DOLLAR STORE UP THE STREET HE'S HAD ISSUES WITH.

HE'S HAD TO PAY FOR SECURITY. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD.

>> HOYT MURPHY. TO ADDRESS THAT QUESTION BECAUSE THE POLICE HAVE TOLD ME THEY NEED AN ORDINANCE TO ENFORCE.

THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE ST. AUGUSTINE ORDINANCE. I WANTED TO THANK NICK AND JENNIFER. I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD A NUMBER OF YEARS. IT SEEMS LIKE THE LAST YEAR HAVING THE TWO OF THEM WE'VE LEARNED A LOT IN PREVIOUS YEARS BUT I THINK Y'ALL ARE FOCUSING ON TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME REAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL BE HELP TO FEEL YOU.

PART OF MY PRESENTATION IS GOING TO SOUND SOMEWHAT HEARTLESS.

YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE HOMELESS.

I WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF POINT.

I PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN ON THE SALVATION ARMY BOARD FOR 30 YEARS. I'VE DEALT WITH THIS ISSUE.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT HOMELESS CHILDREN.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT FAMILIES. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ISSUE WHEN IT RELATES WHAT I SEE ON ALMOST A DAILY BASIS AT ANY PROPERTIES ARE CHRONIC HOMELESS MEN THAT THE TYPICAL PANHANDLERS WE SEE OUT THERE. YOUR FAMILIES, YOUR CHILDREN,

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THE VETERANS, THERE IS PROGRAMS FOR THEM.

THE CHRONIC HOMELESS MEN, THEY ARE ATTRACTED TO FORT PIERCE BECAUSE THE WORD IS OUT. YOU GET ALL THE FOOD YOU WANT.

IF YOU RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU'VE BEEN TO A HOMELESS CAMP.

I HAVE ON THE EDGES OF FORT PIERCE AND THERE ARE MORE PILES OF CANS OF UNOPENED FOOD. THEY CAN'T EAT IT ALL.

THEY GET MORE FOOD THROWN AT THEM.

FORT PIERCE IS THE PLACE TO BE IF YOU SINCE WE HAVE SO MANY SERVICES HERE AS OPPOSED TO WHAT THEY PROVIDE INDIVIDUALS WITH IN PORT ST. LUCIE WITH THOSE SERVICES THAT EVEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND TRANSPORTS PEOPLE THAT THEY FIND HOMELESS IN THAT MUNICIPALITY HERE.

>> YOU ARE EXACTLY CORRECT. >> IT'S NOT A COINCIDENCE AS PORT ST. LUCIE CONTINUES TO GROW, YOU DON'T SEE THE NUMBER OF HOMELESS PEOPLE THERE BUT YET YOU SEE HOMELESS PEOPLE HERE.

SO IT DOESN'T TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTISTS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS GOING ON. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I THINK IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THAT PARTICULAR MUNICIPALITY.

SO THAT PERHAPS WE CAN CIRCUMVENT WHAT YOU AND I KNOW

TO BE TRUE. >> GOOD POINT.

SOME OF YOU HAVE HEARD MY SPECIFIC STORIES.

I THINK SOME BEAR REPEATING BUT I'M GOING TO ADD A COUPLE OF NEW ONES THAT HAVE HAPPENED RECENTLY.

I WANT TO YOU UNDERSTAND WHEN THE GENTLEMAN SAID BUDGETS AND ANTICIPATING REVENUE. I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU HOW I'M GETTING MY TAX REVENUES REDUCED AS A DIRECT RESULT OF THIS AS I'M LOSING INCOME. LET ME BE A LITTLE SPECIFIC ON THAT. IT A.F.C.S BUSINESS.

IT AFFECTS PROPERTY TAX REVENUES.

IT AFFECTS SALES TAX REVENUES. WHEN PEOPLE ARE RELUCTANT TO GO TO MY SHOPPING CENTER TO MY TENANTS AND I HATE TO BE -- I ASSUME THIS IS BEING TELEVISED AND I HATE TO MENTION SOME OF THESE STORIES. BUT THE WORST IN THE LAST TEN YEARS WAS A STABBING RIGHT IN FRONT OF DOLLAR TREE AND IT WAS NOT THE CUSTOMER. IT WAS A CUSTOMER THAT STABBED AN AGGRESSIVE HOMELESS GUY ABOUT BLED OUT IN FRONT OF COLOR TREE THERE. THAT'S THE WORST CASE AND ABSOLUTELY VAST MAJORITY OF PERFECTLY PROBABLY SAFE BUT IT CAN GET TO THAT EXTENT. IT HAS AND IT'S HAPPENED ON MY PROPERTY. I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU THREE EXAMPLES OF WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT AND ONE OF THEM GOES BACK A FEW YEARS AGO. EARLY LEARNING COALITION WAS A TENANT ON THE BACK OF MY PLAZA. 8,000 SQUARE FEET.

THAT'S A BIG TENANT. COUPLE BOARD MEETINGS AND IT HAPPENED TWICE WHERE COUPLE OF LADY BOARD MEMBERS AND MUST HAVE BEEN IN THE WINTER MONTHS WHEN IT GETS DARK EARLY AND THEY ARE GETTING OUT OF THEIR CAR, BOOM THAT PERSON IS RIGHT THERE IN THEIR FACE, PROBABLY PERFECTLY SAFE PANHANDLING THEM.

FINALLY EARLY LEARNING COALITION SAID THAT'S IT, SORRY, WE'RE MOVING. THEY GO OUT TO ORANGE BLOSSOM MALL AND THEY PAY TWICE THE RENT.

NOBODY PACE WHAT I CHARGE MY NONPROFITS.

THEY PAY DOUBLE THE RENT. THAT'S YOUR TAX MONEY FUNDING THEM. THAT SPACE LAID VACANT.

I TAKE GOOD CARE OF MY SPACE. FOR TWO YEARS.

THAT WAS ABOUT $80,000 THIS IN LOST REVENUE.

I WENT AND GOT MY ASSESSMENT REDUCED AND PAID LESS TACKS.

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I'D RATHER PAY MORE TAXES TO YOU, THE COUNTY.

WHEN I HAVE A FULL CENTER. EXAMPLE NUMBER ONE, EXAMPLE NUMBER TWO. THIS WAS FAIRLY RECENT.

THERE WAS A CONVENIENCE STORE ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE PLAZA.

AND ME AND MY PEE BRAIN THINKING, I PUT THEM IN THERE AND REALLY GOOD PEOPLE. IT WAS ASSENT MENTAL DEAL.

MY FATHER USED TO WALK DOWN EVERY MORNING FROM HIS HOUSE TO VIRGINIA AVENUE ON THE BACK OF 800 VIRGINIA AVENUE THERE, IS A LITTLE CONVENIENCE STORE STILL TODAY.

HE'D GO TO BUY HIS LOTTERY TICKET EVERY MORNING.

I SAID ISN'T THAT NICE. I'M GOING TO DO THE SAME THING ON MY PLAZA. BIGGEST MISTAKE I MADE.

IT WAS AN ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE. ALL THE HOMELESS FROM THE PARK WOULD COME THROUGH ANYMY PLAZA, BUY THEIR BEER ACTION WINE AND CIGARETTES AND ON THEIR WAY BACK PANHANDLE AND HANG OUT.

AT THE END O. FIVE YEARS , THE LADY WAS CRYING IN MY OFFICE.

IT WAS NOT HER FAULT THERE IS THE LARGEST PARK IN FORT PIERCE, MOST VISIBLE PARK IN FORT PIERCE THAT'S BEEN A HOMELESS PARK FOR 15 YEARS RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE POLICE STATION.

I WISH THE CHIEF WAS HERE. I MOVED THEM OUT.

THAT'S BEEN VACANT NOT TOO LONG AND WE'RE PUTTING A NICE PICTURE FRAME SHOP IN THERE. THERE WON'T BE ANY NEED FOR THEM TO COME THROUGH PLAZA. I HAD TO GET RID OF A VIABLE BUSINESS BECAUSE OF THAT SCENARIO.

AGAIN AND THEN THE MOST RECENT IN THE LAST YEAR I'VE HIRED SECURITY. I HAD OFF DUTY POLICE OFFICERS.

I'VE GONE FROM THEM AND I THINK I'M GOING TO GO BACK BECAUSE THEY DID A FABULOUS JOB. I HIRED A PRIVATE SECURITY AGENCY. I CAN'T AFFORD TOO MANY HOURS.

IT MOUNTS UP. $1,000 A MONTH IS MY BUDGET THAT I'M SPENDING THERE. IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT INCOME PROPERTIES, YOU ADD $1,000 TO YOUR EXPENSE SIDE.

THAT TAKES OFF ABOUT $160,000 IN VALUE.

WHAT DID I DO? I WENT BACK TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER AND I GOT MY TAXES REDUCED AGAIN.

BECAUSE I SHOULDN'T REALLY HAVE TO PROVIDE THE SECURITY.

BUT I HAVE NO CHOICE. I GO BY ABOUT FOUR TIMES A DAY AND I CHASE PANHANDLERS OFF PROBABLY ABOUT EVERY THIRD DAY I'LL FIND ONE THERE. NOT IN THE MORNING.

NOON AND ABOUT 2:00 OR 3:00 THAT'S WHEN THEY START GOING OVER. THEY GET BORED AND NEED BEER MONEY. IT'S NONSTOP.

IT'S BEEN NONSTOP FOR 20 YEARS. IT'S A TOUGH PROBLEM TO SOLVE.

THERE IS SO MANY ISSUES WHETHER IT'S LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

IT'S HEARTBREAKING. I WAS THE COFFEE BOY.

JOHN DID ALL THE HARD WORK. HE WAS THERE 4:00 IN THE MORNING ON IT. BUT JUST TO SEE SOME OF THESE FOLKS. AND THE WORST REALLY HEARTBREAK WAS TO SEE A FAMILY IN A CAR WITH TWO SMALL KIDS.

JOHN WAS GIVING GOOD REFERRALS AND TELLING THEM WHERE THEY COULD GO AND GET HELP. BUT THREE THINGS THAT I JUST WANT TO RECOMMEND THAT WILL COST YOU VERY LITTLE.

SOME OF THE OTHER SOLUTIONS LORD YOU COULD SPEND A WHOLE BUDGET ON THE CRA TRYING TO -- YOU ALSO BECOME A BIG ATTRACTION FOR EVERYBODY'S HOMELESS. I'VE ALWAYS TOLD THE SALVATION ARMY, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN, BUT WE SHOULD NOT BE THE DUMPING GROUNDS FOR EVERYBODY ELSE'S HOMELESS IN THE AREA. THAT IS BASICALLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN FOR 20, 25 YEARS. NUMBER ONE CONSIDER THAT ST. AUGUSTINE PANHANDLING ORDINANCE.

I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND I THINK THE POLICE OFFICERS TELL ME THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED.

THEY NEED SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN ENFORCE.

IF THE CHIEF WAS HERE, I WOULD ASK HER AND I'VE BEEN TOLD BY SOMEBODY WHO IS REALLY GOOD. HE PROBABLY TO ME HAS THE BEST

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HOMELESS SERVICES BECAUSE HE DOESN'T BELIEVE IN GIVING A HANDOUT. HE BELIEVES IN GIVING A HANDUP AND HE'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL. PAT THE BEST THING YOU CAN DO IS HAVE YOUR POLICE CHIEF AND SHERIFF COORDINATE ON THE HOMELESS CAMPS THAT ARE PRETTY MUCH ON THE MOSTLY RIGHT AT THE EDGE OF THE CITY LIMITS. AND MOVE THEM NORTH, MOVE THEM SOUTH TO PORT ST. LUCIE. MOVE THEM NORTH TO VERO BEACH.

MOVE THEM OUT. HE SAID WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THEM WHEREVER THEY GO. AND BY THE WAY THEY ARE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. THESE ARE PROPERTY OWNERS.

I DID ONE ABOUT A YEAR AGO RIGHT AROUND THE U.S. 1 NORTH , THE A1A CAUSEWAY THERE BEHIND THERE IS A DUNKIN DONUTS AND SHELL GAS STATION. IT A HUGE LIABILITY PROBLEM FOR THESE OWNERS. THE OWNERS WILL COOPERATE TO MOVE THEM OUT. THAT'S THE BEST THING TO DO AND YOU ARE GOING TO SEE A DRAMATIC DROP IN DOING THAT.

AND I GUESS THE THIRD IS MORE OF A QUESTION OFFICER MALL WHO I

THINK WAS MAKING SOME GOOD >> WE HAVEN'T BEEN TOLD.

HE USED TO COME TO THE CRA ADVISORY BOARD.

I AM HOPING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ASSIGNED SOMEONE ELSE TO REPLACE HIM ON THE ADDRESSING THE HOMELESS ISSUES. I THINK HAVE -- EXCUSE ME -- THREE SUGGESTIONS THAT CAN MAKE A BIG IMPACT.

>> THANK UP. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> WE ARE GOING TO OUR SECOND RECOMMENDATION.

WE'LL BRING UP CHRISTINE G GIB

GIBBONS. >> WE WANT TO TALK VACATION RENTALS. AND WE HAVE IDEAS ABOUT IT AND LOOKING AT THE PEACOCK AND GIVE UP AND GIVE YOU

RECOMMENDATIONS. >> SURE.

>>> GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M TOO SMALL.

>> CHRISTINA GIBBONS. >> AS CHARLIE SPOKE ABOUT, ONE THING THAT RECENTLY CAME TO OUR ATTENTION WAS THE POSSIBILITY OF USING SOME VACATION RENTALS TO HELP PROMOTE GROWTH IN SOME OF THE UP AND COMING NEIGHBORS.

PAT HAS A FEW THINGS TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

I WON'T GO TOO IN DEPTH. >> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT AND THE THINGS WE ARE DOING IN THE AREAS TO BRING PEOPLE TO FORT PIERCE, TO STAY LONGER AND BE OUT ON FOOT IN SOME OF THE AREAS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO SOME OF THE OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES. LOOK AT SOMETHING SOME SHORT-TERM RENTALS OUT THERE CONSIDERING WE DON'T HAVE HOTELS IN THIS AREA YET. IT WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT RIGHT NOW.

>>> A COUPLE OF THINGS I HAVE SEEN IS AIR AIRBNB.

YOU CAN'T RENT LESS THAN 30 DAYS WITH ALL OF THE CRAZY FIRE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE HOSES.

THEY CONSIDER YOU A HOTEL. THERE'S A LOT OF HUBPUB GOING AROUND IF IT IS LESS THAN 30 DAYS.

>> THE PROBLEM THAT I HAD IS THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY.

THERE'S NO 30 DAYS IN THE MONTH OF MEMBER.

IT IS HARD FOR ANYONE WITH IT IS COMING TO THE 31.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE OVER LAY DISTRICT AND COME UP WITH SOME GUIDELINES TO KEEP US FROM FALLING UNDER THE FIRE CODE. I GUESS WITH THAT BEING SAID, I HAVE TALK TODAY JENNIFER ABOUT THIS AS WELL.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN FORCE, ACTUALLY DO, BECAUSE IT IS FIRE CODE.

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HOWEVER, SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS ARE OLD AND TO BE ABLE TO PUT SOME OF THE SPRINKLE SYSTEM IN AN OLD BUILDING IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE COST

EFFECTIVE. >>> I KNOW THE ONE THING THAT I WILL LET PAT TALK TO. HE HAD TWO HOMES BEING REDONE OFF OF 7TH STREET. ATLANTIC?

>> WHAT DO YOU SAY? >> OFF OF ATLANTIC.

THEY WERE HOPING TO DO SHORT-TERM RENTALS.

UNFORTUNATELY, THEY HAD TO PUT OF THIS EXTRA MONEY IN IT TO BRING IT UP TO CODE FOR THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL.

WHICH ADDS SO MUCH EXTRA COSTS.

IT WAS CLOSE TO 10 THOUSAND DOLLARS PUT IN THAT HOME TO GET THAT BACK OUT OF IT. YOU WOULD HAVE TO RENT IT

FOR A YEAR. >>> SOME OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE WILL SAY AGAINST IT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE RENTERS THAT ARE COMING AND GOING, THEY WON'T TAKE CARE OF THE PROPERTY. THEY WON'T CARE.

I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY EXPERIENCE, I HAVE NEVER HAD A SINGLE PERSON USE MY PROPERTY WITHOUT HAVING A GOOD REASON. THEY ARE THERE WITH THEIR FAMILY, THEY ARE THERE TO SPEND TIME DOWNTOWN.

THEY ARE HERE TO BE APART OF FORT PIERCE.

WITH A SHORT-TERM RECOMNTALS, I HAVE TO CANCEL SEVERAL OF THOSE RENTALLY. THEY WERE COMING TO VISIT FAMILY. THEY ARE OLDER.

THEY ARE COMING FROM CANADA. THEY WERE SEEKING SUNSHINE AND SEEK OUR BEAUTIFUL WATER.

IT IS A NICE WAY TO BRING PEOPLE INTO THIS AREA TO SPEND MONEY FROM OUT OF STATE.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WILL LET PAT DO HIS THING AS

WELL. >>> JUST A FEW THINGS TO ADD TO THAT. WE THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT THING IN YOUR TOOL BOX FOR THESE REBOUNDING NEIGHBORS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. WE HAD A GOOD MEETING, I DON'T KNOW, IT HAS BEEN A FEW MONTHS AGO AND A BUILDING OFFICIAL WAS THERE. AND I SAID I DON'T KNOW.

I CAN RENT A HOUSE IN THE KEYS.

THERE'S NO FIRE SPRINKLES. I CAN GO TO ALASKA.

NO FIRE SPRINKLES. HE SAID, HE ADMITTED, HE SAID IT IS UP TO MY INTERPRETATION.

IT CAN BE DONE. I THINK THERE'S -- WHEN I SAW THOSE FOLKS, WHAT THEY DID ON ATLANTIC AVENUE.

THEY TOOK THE THREE HOUSES. THEY DIDN'T RENOVATE THEM.

THEY RESTORED THEM. YOU TALK, COMMISSIONER, YOU NEED MOTIVATION FOR FOLKS TO DO THAT.

WHEN THERE'S THE ECONOMIC RETURN BY DOING THIS, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHY THEY BUILT IT.

THEY CAN'T RENT IT FOR LESS THAN 30 DAYS.

THEY ARE KIND OF STUCK ON THIS THING.

I THINK THE COMMISSION CAN STEP UP.

FIND OUT -- THEY ARE DOING IT IN THE KEYS.

I WASN'T PREPARED ON THIS ONE LIKE THE OTHER ONE.

I CALLED DOWN THERE AND THEY SAID, YEAH, IT CAN BE DONE.

THANKS FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT.

IT IS AN ISSUE ON THE BEACH. AN OVER LAY ZONE ON LINCOLN PARK DISTRICT. TO LET THIS BE DONE, LET THE PEOPLE BRING THE MONEY. REDO THE HOUSING STOCK.

YOU DON'T NEED GRANTS. LET THEM DO IT.

IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A NO-BRAINER TO US.

THAT YOU ARE GOING TO GET PEOPLE GOING TO COME IN AND FIX THE PLACES UP AND IF YOU TALK TO THE FOLKS ON ATLANTIC AVENUE. THEY WILL RENT THEM.

THEY ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT. THEY ARE GOING DOWNTOWN.

THEY ARE SPENDING MONEY. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED.

>> MAYOR? >> DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR A TEST DISTRICT? THE PEACOCK DISTRICT. WHERE IT IS?

>> IN COMBINATION AND COORDINATING WITH THEM, AND DEPARTMENT OF BUILDING. I THINK -- WHERE THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE JUST ON THE CUSP OF TURNING.

PEACOCK IS ONE OF THEM. AND PROBABLY OTHERS.

TIEING IT, IT IS WALK-ABLE TO DOWNTOWN.

THAT TYPE OF THING. MAKES A LOT OF SCIENSE.

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>> THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE, DO YOU KNOW, OR HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH TOURISM, OR HAVE WE IDENTIFIED ANY WAY TO CAPTURE THE HEADS AND BEDS TOURISM TAX LIKE WE DO

WITH HOTELS. >> WHEN I STARTED RENTS MY PLACE HERE, IT WAS 4 YEARS AGO.

I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE TOURISM DEVELOPMENT TAX.

I GOT A REAL QUICK LESSON IN THAT.

THAT IS ANOTHER ISSUE. UNFORTUNATELY, OUR COUNTY DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY COLLECT THAT TAX.

SO, EVERY MONTH, I HAVE TO GO ONLINE AND FILL OUT THE FORM. I DON'T HAVE TO DO MY SALES TAX. IT IS AUTOMATICALLY TAKEN OUT. I HAVE TO DO THAT ONE.

AND HER AND I HAVE SPOKEN ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS ABOUT THAT. THE FIRST STEP, IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO AN AIRBNB. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SALE TAX COLLECTED AND THEY PAY IT FOR YOU.

THERE ARE A LOT OF COUNTIES IN FLORIDA, I WOULD SAY 60-70 PERCENT OF THEM THAT AUTOMATICALLY COLLECT THE VAT TAX AS WELL. WE DO NOT DO IT.

AT THE TIME WHEN ALL OF THIS CAME UP AND AIRBNB WAS SO NEW, AND THE COUNTY DIDN'T TRUST THE SYSTEM.

THEY HAD NO WAY TO AUDIT WHO IS COMING AND WHO IS GOING THROUGH THERE TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE COLLECTING THE CORRECT TAX. ONCE THEY FIND OUT THAT RENTING IS HAPPENING, THEY CONTACT THE PERSON OWNING THE BUILDING AND THEY SAY HEY, YOU NEED TO PAY AN EXTRA 5 PERCENT. WE HAVE TO GO IN AND FILL ALL OF THAT OUT. THERE'S NO GOOD ANSWER.

WE ARE COLLECTING IT BASED OFF OF HAVING TO FOLLOW

THOSE RULES. >>> ONE THING WE TALKED ABOUT IS COMING UP WITH AN EASY METHOD FOR THIS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN, SOME KIND OF CLEAR PATH FOR THE PEOPLE TO DO IN ORDER TO GET THE RENTALS UP AND READY TO GO. I FOUND ALL OF THIS OUT.

I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING. YOU KNOW.

AND IT WOULD BE NICE IF THERE'S WITH A STEP BY STEP.

YOU ARE GOING TO FILE YOUR PLACE, IT IS UNDER 30 DAYS.

YOU NEED TO DO THIS, THIS, THIS.

AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT. IT WAS VERY CONFUSING AND MOST OF THE DEPARTMENT AT THE TIME DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO OCCUR. WHEN I SAID IT WAS OVER 30 DAYS. THEY SAID, OH, NO BIG DEAL.

HERE'S THIS AND IT IS FREE. SO, THAT WAS -- THE SYSTEM IS LITTLE BIT BROKEN AS WELL.

IF WE WERE TO DO THIS, IT IS A GOOD IN A CONTROLLED AREA.

WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE A GOOD GUIDELINES AND STEPS TO

PROCEED. >> IT IS AN ITEM OF CONVERSATION WITHOUT A DOUBT.

YOU KNOW, I AM NOT SURE OF ALL OF THE RULES AND REGULATIONS AND HOW THE COUNTY AND CITY --

>> SOME OF THIS IS STATE STATUTE.

>> IT IS. >> THE STATE LEGISLATURE IS

WHERE YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING. >> THE TAX IS AVAILABLE.

WHEN YOU IN THE KEYS, I DON'T TEENS PERCENTAGE.

>> IT IS HIGH HERE. >> IT IS HIGH.

>>> THE OTHER ASPECT OF IT IS JUST HOW DO YOU CAPTURE

THAT? >> ST. AT. AINT LUS ECOUNTY.

1.2 MILLION VISITORS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, LAST YEAR. MOST OF THOSE WERE COMING TO SEE FAMILY. LIKE YOU TALKED ABOUT.

THEY WERE LITERALLY COMING TO SEE FAMILY.

AND THE AVERAGE 6-7 DAYS. WHICH GENERATED SO MANY MILLIONS IN ECONOMIC REVENUE.

AND THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE TOURISM TAX, I THINK WE

OUT-PACED -- >> I REMEMBER.

I WAS SURPRISED. >> WE WERE AT THE 60 PERCENT OF TAXES. THAT DOES INCLUDE VACATION RENTALS. WE AREN'T EVEN COLLECTS ON THAT. CAN YOU IMAGINE IF WE COLLECT THAT. IT IS NOT ALL ABOUT TAXING.

BUT IT IS APART OF THE EQUATION.

>> IT IS. >>> THE INCENTIVE, IF WE OFFER A PROGRAM, MORATORIUM OVER A PERIOD OF TIME TO SEE HOW THIS PROCEED, IT WOULD SHOW THAT WE ARE WILLING TO

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WORK SOME OF THE INVESTORS COMING HERE AND PUTTING

MONEY INTO THE AREA. >> I KNOW YOU ARE A SPOKESPERSON. YOU AND PAT.

YOU THINK THE PAD WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO TEST OUT?

>> I DIDN'T IT IS BETTER THAN DOWNTOWN.

THERE ARE MORE HOMES THERE. THAT COULD BE USABLE SPACE.

DOWNTOWN. YOU HAVE MAYBE SOME UP ON SECOND STREET. THERE'S NOTHING HERE.

SO, IT WOULD BE ME. I COULD TOTALLY DO IT FOR

YOU. >> GOT YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>> MR. MATTHEWS, DOES THAT

COMPLETE YOUR REPORT OR...? >> CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE STILL THE LAST AND THE LAST IS EASY TO DEAL WITH.

NUMBER 3. WE ARE GOING TO -- FREEMAN TO COME UP. WITH MR. MURPHY.

WE ARE GOING TO ADVERTISE AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE OAKS PROPERTY ON MORRIS CREEK.

>> HI. >> WELCOME.

>> IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

>> BLITHE FREEDMAN. >> I CAN'T UNFORTUNATELY REMEMBER HOW YOU GUYS ACQUIRED IT.

WE HAVE ACQUIRED IT. IT IS RIGHT SMALLER DAB IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. MAYBE HAVE SOMEONE PURCHASE IT AND PUT A HOUSE THERE AND HAVE TAX REVENUE SO WE ARE MAKING MOTION FOR YOU GUYS TO ADVERTISE IT.

>> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE OAKS?

>> YEAH. IS THAT THE ONE?

>> YES. >> I DON'T HAVE NOTES.

>> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT LATER IN THE AGENDA.

ARE WE NOT. >> OKAY.

>> IT IS ON THE AGENDA. >> GREAT.

THAT IS PERFECT. THAT WAS EASY.

>> NEXT.

>>> CAN I SAY ONE MORE THING ABOUT THE HOUSING?

>> PLEASE COME FORWARD. IDENTIFY YOURSELF.

WE HAVE LOTS TO COVER. >> FOR THE PEACOCK DISTRICT, WE THINK LINCOLN PARK AND EDGAR TOWN.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> ALL RIGHT.

>>> SO THIS HAS TURNED INTO A PUBLIC HEARING.

I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON ANY OF THESE

NOW? >> WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD

INFORMATION. >> MAYBE SOMEONE CAN CLARIFY FOR ME. IS AN INTRODUCTION OF SHORT-TERM RENTALS WHICH WE HAVE LEARNED TO BE SOMEWHAT OF A PROBLEM BECAUSE OF A TRANSIT INDUSIVE IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE PERMANENT STARTS WITH OWNERSHIP. DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE I AM GOING ON WITH THIS? AM I OFF?

I AM CONFUSED HERE? >> HELP YOU OUT WITH WHAT?

>> CAN YOU TELL ME YOUR OPINION ON THAT?

>> SURE. >> IDENTIFY YOURSELF.

>> JOHN JONES. 1615 EDGEWATER DRIVE,

ORLANDO, FLORIDA. >> THE CITY OF FLORIDA PASSED AN AIRBNB ORDINANCE, TO RENT THE PROPERTY, THEY HAVE TO LIVE ONSITE. IF YOU WANT TO RENT IT OUT, AND HAVE A GARAGE APARTMENT, YOU HAVE TO LIVE ONSITE SO YOU DON'T DEAL WITH ABSENTEE LANDLORDS AND THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE FOLKS WHO COME IN AND RENT IT.

IT IS ONE MECHANISM OF ABSENTEE LANDLORDS AND DISCOURAGES HOMEOWNER OWNERSHIP.

>> IT IS AN ONGOING PROBLEM ESPECIALLY IN DISTRICT 1 --

>> THANK YOU, SIR. >> -- WE HAD HOME RENTALS AND IF WE HAD HOME OWNERSHIP IT WOULD GET RID OF THE PROBLEMS. WHERE WE WOULD TRANSFORM OR

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CONVERT PEOPLE FROM RENTALS TO HOMEOWNERSHIP AND ANYTHING THAT IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO THAT IS PRETTY MUCH A SLAP IN THE FACE. IT IS NOT ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO. AT LEAST FROM MY

PERSPECTIVE. >> YEP.

>> I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MENTION I HAVE READ A STUDY IN A CRA AREA IN PAN HANDLING.

I WILL GET A COPY TO THE COMMITTEE.

WHAT MR. MURPHY WAS TALKING ABOUT THE HOMELESSNESS, WHAT THEY USE THE MONEY FOR. SO THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT TALKS ABOUT IS IF PEOPLE WOULD NOT GIVE PEOPLE TO THE CHRONIC HOMELESS, BECAUSE THAT MONEY IS NOT WELL-SPENT. THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS. WHY YOU HAVE PAN HANDLERS BECAUSE PEOPLE FEED THEM OR GIVE THEM MONEY.

ANY WAY, THE CRA DISTRICT IN ORLANDO STUDIED THAT.

I WOULD LIKE US TO SHARE THAT WITH THE CRA COMMITTEE.

I WANTED TO SHARE THAT. >>> THERE WAS A LOT TALKED ABOUT THE FIRE SUBPRESSION REQUIREMENTS.

THAT IS NOT OUR REQUIREMENTS, RIGHT?

IT IS THE FIRE DISTRICT. >> IT IS NOT EVEN THE FIRE

DISTRICT. >> IT IS STATE?

>> FIRE PREVENTION CODE. WHEN IS PART OF THE BUILDING

CODE. >> ONE OF THE WAYS IT WAS EXPLAINED I THINK BY THE BUILDING OFFICIAL, THE REASON IT IS FOR LESS THAN 30 DAYS IS THAT THAT IS CONSIDERED TRANSIENT HOUSING AND THEY ARE STAYING IN A PLACE THAT THEY ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH.

THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE FIRE ITEMS IN PLACE.

AND SO, I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT THIS COMMISSION CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT. OR AND UNDERSTANDING IT IS A VERY COSTLY THING TO DO. I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT IS A SAFETY COMMISSION.

YOU ARE ON THE FIRE BOARD. MAYBE YOU CAN CHIME IN HERE.

THAT, AND ALSO I THINK I KNOW THE PLACES ON ATLANTIC AVENUE THAT -- ABOUT WE APPROVED THEM FOR WHATEVER THEY ASKED. I DON'T -- I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS OVER 30 DAYS AND LESS THAN 30 DAYS.

WE WERE HAPPY TO APPROVE THEM.

IN FACT, THEY HAD NEIGHBORS THAT CAME AND SUPPORTED THEM. I REMEMBER THAT VERY CLEARLY. SO, I THINK BRINGING THINGS UP TO CODE IN TERMS OF FIRE IS NOT WITHIN OURS.

PERHAPS WE CAN MAKE THINGS EASIER.

I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT.

>> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> AND MR. JONES TALKED ABOUT THE OWNER MUST LIVE ONSITE.

IF THERE IS AN EVENT, IT IS NOT THE FIRE PREVENTION CODE THAT KICKS INTO THE PLAY. BUT SOMEONE IS ONSITE, A RESIDENT EXPERT SAYING THIS IS HOW WE GET OUT OF THE BUILDING. AND I THINK -- I DON'T REMEMBER ALL OF THE APPLICATIONS, I DON'T REMEMBER ALL OF THEM BEING TRIGGERED INTO SPRINKLES IN THE BUILDING. I DON'T RECALL THAT.

>> I DON'T EITHER. >> THOMAS IS THE EXPERT ON THAT. AND HE HAS THE LATITUDE TO LOOK AT THE CODE AND INTERPRET IT AND SAY IT IS THAT TRANSIENT ACTIVITY SO, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS ONE ON

THE BEACH RENCENTLY. >> RIGHT.

>> IT WAS DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER APPLICATIONS.

>> IT WAS IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.

>> THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS TO CRAFT THE FORMULA TO MAKE IT WORK. ANYTIME WHAT I HEARD THE MEET IS ASKING US TO COME UP WITH AN IDEA AND SCOPE TO SAY LET'S TRY IT OUT AND MAKE IT WORK AND SEE --

>> I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA.

>> -- >> IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS OKAY WITH IT AND YOU KNOW, WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN.

I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA FOR THE INFILL.

FIND WAYS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN AND MAKE IT NOT RUIN THE

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NEIGHBORHOOD AS SOME PEOPLE FEEL LIKE IT DOES.

>> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER. >> I THOUGHT IT WAS? TYPE OF REGULATION. IF YOU RENT PROPERTIES FOR MORE THAN 30 DAYS AND THAT PERSON, YOU KNOW --

>> YOU HAVE A LEASE OF SOME SORT.

>> NOT A LEASE. >> ONE 30 DAYS TO THE NEXT 30 DAYS. THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE.

IF THE PERSON REFUSES TO LEAVE, I'M LIVING HERE NOW.

I LIVED HERE FOR 30 DAYS. --

>> IT IS AN EVICTION. >> THAT'S THE TRAIN OF

THOUGHT ON THAT. >> PEOPLE COME BEFORE ABOUT VACATION RENTALS AND THEY HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT TOO.

>> RIGHT. >> IF NOT THEY ARE GOING TO COME BACK TO US AND BE ANGRY WITH US.

>> YES, SIR. >> A LOT OF PEOPLE FEAR THE VACATION RENTALS. MOST OF THE COMPLAINTS BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID. THEY DON'T KNOW WHO THE NEIGHBORS ARE. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT MAY HAPPEN. PEOPLE ARE COMING AND GOING.

THERE'S NO STABILITY. WHICH IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO NEIGHBORHOODS. VACATION RENTALS IN DISTRICT PONE WILL BE BOARDING HOUSES. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT. WE TRIED TO MANY YEARS TO GET RID OF AND WE ARE FINALLY ACCOMPLISHING THAT.

WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH THIS.

AND I KNOW FROM A POLICY-MAKER STANDPOINT, IT IS HARD TO GET OVER. I'M NOT A FAN OF VACATION RENTALS. I KNOW THE FEAR OF THE RESIDENTS ARE WITH REGARDS TO THEIR NEIGHBORS.

I MEAN, PEOPLE MOVE IN NEIGHBORHOODS TO KNOW WHERE THEY ARE AND BE COMFORTABLE WHERE THEY ARE.

THAT'S THEIR COMFORT ZONE. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE ZONING, YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL ZONES AND RESIDENTIAL ZONING.

WE ISOLATE ONE FROM THE OTHER.

WE TALK ABOUT KEY WEST. WE DON'T WANT -- TRUST ME, IT IS NICE TO VISIT. IT IS NOT ONE OF THE NICEST PLACES TO STAY. IT IS LIKE NEW ORLEANS.

I LOVE TO VISIT. BUT I DON'T WANT TO STAY THERE. WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.

IT IS AN IDEAL SITUATION FOR A LANDLORD.

HEY. THEY MAKE A LOT OF MONEY.

IT IS CONDUCIVE TO WHAT THE NEIGHBORS WANT BECAUSE THEY WANT STABILITY IN THEIR HOMES.

I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE KEY.

GETTING A PAD WHERE THERE ARE ONLY VACATION RENTALS.

PERHAPS, MAYBE. I DON'T KNOW.

WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL HOW WE APPROACH THAT.

>> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

>>> SHALL WE MOVE ON? >> MR. MENS.

>>> ADVISORY COMMITTEE PROVIDED RECOMMENDATIONS.

I BELIEVE AT THIS POINT, YOU CAN ACCEPT THEM, REJECT THEM, YOU CAN TELL STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME OF THE IDEAS. I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU ALL AT LEAST ACCEPT OR TELL THEM TO GO ABOUT THEIR WAY OR SOMETHING. WE NEED --

>> FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THEY PUT INTO IT AND THEIR IDEAS. I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK -- HERE'S I FEEL ABOUT IT, I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THE PAN HANDLING IN SAINT AUGUSTINE AND SEE IF MR. SWEENY IF THAT WILL WITHSTAND CONSTITUTIONAL CHALLENGES. AS FAR AS HAVING THE CHIEF AND POLICE COORDINATE THE HOMELESS CAMPS, THAT IS A CONVERSATION FOR YOU AND THE CHIEF SHOULD HAVE.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IN TERMS OF THE SHERIFF.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE COORDINATED WITH THEM.

AND I KNOW THAT OFFICER M MALDONADO WAS DOWNTOWN TEALING WITH THE HOMELESS. YOU CAN LOOK INTO THAT AND FIND OUT THE STATUS. HE WAS EXCELLENT IN DEALING WITH THEM. HE WAS RESPECTFUL.

ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT WERE DOWN BY THE YACHT CLUB AND DOWN WHERE THE GABLES AND, YOU KNOW, HE WAS VERY, VERY RESPECTFUL AND HANDLED THAT VERY WELL.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATUS OF THAT IS.

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>>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS?

>> THE ADVISORY BOARD WE APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THEY ARE DOING AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

BUT THAT ON MR. MILLS' DESK AND HE CAN BRING IT BACK TO US AT THE CITY COMMISSION MEETING.

WE CAN ONLY ACCEPT WHAT THEY SAY AND PASS IT ON.

THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT NOW.

>> ANYTHING ELSE? >> YES?

>> I AGREE. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE. I WOULD BE IN LINE WITH THE GROUP ON CRAFTING LANGUAGE, LOOKING AT IT, BRINGING IT FORWARD. I THINK IT IS A GREAT RECOMMENDATION. THE ASSIGNMENT OF OFFICERS, I'M NOT TOO SURE ABOUT. IT SHOULD BE TALKED ABOUT FROM LEADERSHIP, FROM ADMINISTRATION, WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WITHIN POLICE DEPARTMENT LEADERSHIP. I'M SURE IT IS TALKED ABOUT.

I DON'T KNOW FIRSTHAND IF THAT'S THE CASE.

IT WAS IN PLACE WITH A SPECIFIC OFFICER.

>>> VACATION RENTALS. MAYBE NOT THE FULL DISTRICT.

I LOOK AT A MAP. I BROUGHT UP GOOGLE MAPS.

WE HAVE TEST AREA. AND POLLING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO COME UP -- WE ARE DOING IT PIECE MEAL.

WE ARE WAITING FOR AN APPLICANT TO COME TO US.

>> IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IF WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD OR A ZONE AND IF IT IS PART OF THE PAD, YOU KNOW, THE GROUP IS THEY HAVE LOOKED AT ALL OF THE LITTLE DISTRICTS AROUND, I DON'T KNOW IF IT SHOULD BE... IF IT IS APART OF THE EXISTING PAD RIGHT NOW, IT COULD BE LITTLE ZONE FROM 7TH AND 10TH. WE HAD TWO APPROVALS ON 7TH.

I WOULD HAVE TO POLL THE NEIGHBORHOOD FIRST AND SEE.

IS THIS A GOOD IDEA? IS IT GOOD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? MAKING SURE OUR CULTURE AND HERITAGE IS APART OF THAT? WHAT ARE THE GOOD PARTS AND BAD PARTS. WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE SOMETHING IN A BUBBLE AND GO OH NO AT THE END OF THE DAY.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE COULD DO DIFFERENTLY KNOW WITHIN THE CONFINES OF OUR ORDINANCE AND STATE LAW.

>> WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO GO TO IS SET UP ORDINANCE INTO 2011 WE FALL BACK INTO. THE GRANDFATHERED CLAUSE.

I DON'T WANT TO MESS WITH THAT.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S -- BUT IF WE CAN BRING UP, YOU KNOW, A ZONE OR A DISTRICT. YOU KNOW, EDGAR TOWN HAS SOME LANGUAGE IN PLAY CURRENTLY.

IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. >> IT IS AN OVERLAY

DISTRICT. >>> EXPANDING THE OVERLAY INTO SOMETHING ELSE. EDGAR TOWN HAS GOOD LANGUAGE. GO OVER PART OF THE PAD.

>> I'M IN TUNE WITH THAT. IF YOU WANT A DIRECTION.

IT IS A GOOD IDEA. >> IT IS GOOD TO LOOK INTO.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT ENTAILS.

>> ME TOO. IF IT MIMICS EDGAR TOWN, WE

ARE NOT TOO FAR OFF ALREADY. >> IS THAT ENOUGH FOR YOU?

>> I'M REALLY QUITE SURE WHAT I HEARD.

I BELIEVE I TAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE CRA COMMITTEE DID ADVICE YOU BECAUSE THEY ARE FORT PIERCE. WE ARE THE PR A BOARD.

>> THAT'S A GOOD POINT. >> THEY CAN BE BROUGHT TO THE COMMISSION. WE IDENTIFY DRAFT RESPONSES TO THESE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

I THINK MAYBE IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO LOOK AT THESE ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS WITH EACH RECOMMENDATION BEING DISCUSSED AT A CONFERENCE AGENDA.

>> THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. >> MAYBE MARCH OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT AND WE MOVE FORWARD WITH HOW WE CRAFT THE FINALIZATION OF THAT DETERMINATION.

WE CAN DO THAT IF YOU LIKE, MA'AM.

>> ONE THING I WAS LISTENING TO PAT MURPHY TALK ABOUT 15 YEARS THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON IN PINE WOOD PARK.

>> LONGER THAN THAT. >> OKAY.

SO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE THOUGHT WE SHOULD DO IS TRY TO FIND OUT WHO IS FEEDING THEM AND TRY TO GET

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THAT FEEDING PLACE MOVED. BECAUSE THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT PROBLEM. AND SO, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT. BUT, I HAVE HEARD RUMORS WHO FEEDS THEM AND HOW IT HAPPENS.

IT SHOULDN'T HARD TO FIND OUT.

AND PERHAPS WE CAN MOVE THAT.

A GROUP OR SEVERAL GROUPS USED TO FEED THEM AT THE YACHT CLUB. I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT IN A WHILE. I DON'T KNOW.

I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT. WHEN THERE ARE NO MORE FREE OFFERINGS. THEY WILL THEORETICALLY NOT

BE IN THE PARK. >> I DO KNOW THIS IS A TOUGH SUBJECT TO TALK ABOUT, HOM HOMELESSNESS. IT IS NOT GOING TO GO AWAY.

IT IS FOR US TO PROVIDE RESOURCES THAT NEED TO BE HELP. THEY ARE LIKE US, THEY ARE OLD, YOUNG, YOU KNOW, MEN, WOMEN, CHILDREN.

SO, IT IS A TOUGH SUBJECT TO TRY TO SOLVE.

I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING AT ADAM'S PLACE, THE SALVATION ARMY'S JURISDICTION AND WE CAN COME UP WITH ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AND MAYBE A SOLUTION.

I MENTIONED THIS TO YOU ABOUT HOW WE GO ABOUT PROVIDING THOSE TEMPORARY I GUESS FOOD ON A DAILY BASIS.

WHERE WE CAN DO IT. MAYBE MARCH OR APRIL, WE CAN ATTACK THIS SITUATION AND RESEARCH THE ORDINANCES THAT WAS BROUGHT UP TODAY AND BRING THEM FOR YOURSELF

CONSIDERATION. >> MADAM, MAYOR?

>> YES, SIR. >> I WANT TO PUT MY INPUT.

ONCE WE RUN THE PEOPLE OUT OF THE PARKS, NOT SAYING THEY DON'T DESERVE TO BE THERE.

I KNOW INDIVIDUALS THAT FEED THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

THEY EAT BETTER THAN I DO. BECAUSE MY WIFE IS OUT OF TOWN AND I HAVE TO FEND FOR MYSELF

. >> YOU CAN GO TO THE MARKET.

>> I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK I'M HOMELESS.

LIKE I SAID, WE NEED TO SET ASIDE SOME TYPE OF FUNDS, SOME TYPE OF GRANT THAT WE CAN GIVE TO -- WHEN WE WERE REHABBING THOSE TWO BUILDINGS ON ORANGE AVENUE,

AND WE TURNED IT OVER TO -- >> HOUSING AUTHORITY.

>> YES, SIR. >> NOW, WHY WE CAN'T INCORPORATE THE HOUSING AUTHORITY INTO OUR CITY BUSINESS, WHICH IS -- THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY, THE HOMELESS. IT IS NOT THAT BECAUSE THEY COME FROM AFAR, THEY COME TO FORCE PIERCE.

WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS RIGHT HERE, THE CHILDREN IN THE CARS. IF WE CAN GET AHOLD OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND WE HANDLE THE DEPARTMENTS DOWN -- APARTMENTS DOWN THERE. WHY NOT UTILIZE THAT FOR THE HOMELESS PEOPLE. WE TURN IT OVER TO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. AND I JUST DON'T SEE SENSE OF THAT. YOU KNOW? FOR US, LET'S GO FIND OTHER PROPERTIES.

THE MONEYS THAT WE GOT FOR THE SALES OF THE PROPERTY.

WE COULD GO AND REHAB OTHERS.

WHERE WE CAN DO SOMETHING FOR THE HOMELESS.

>> JUST TO RESPOND TO YOU, SIR.

PART OF THE IDENTIFICATION OF RESOURCES IS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A GOOD HOUSING STOCK.

IF WE TAKE THOSE WHO WANT HELP, WE'LL TEACH THEM, GIVE THEM THE MENTAL, PHYSICAL, EMOTIONAL RESOURCES THEY NEED TO IMPROVE THEIR SITUATION.

WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.

THE TWO BUILDINGS ARE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT ARE MANAGED BY THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.

I KNOW OF AN ELDERLY GENTLEMAN.

HE HAS TO BE 90 SOMETHING AND HE IS STILL KICKING.

HE IS A WONDERFUL PERSON. HE IS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING SOLUTION FOR HIM. WE NEED FIND MORE.

WE NEED TO BUILD UPON OUR EXISTING STOCK FOR THOSE WHO GRADUATE FROM THE STATE OF HOMELESSNESS.

>> THAT'S HOUSING AUTHORITY MOOTTO IS; MOVE IN, MOVE UP,

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MOVE OUT. GENERATION AFTER GENERATION, SET THEM UP TO FAIL, YOU KNOW, HAVING HOUSING IS NOT GOING TO BE -- WE GOT SPECIFICALLY PUT OUR DIRECTION, OUR EYES ON THE HOMELESS.

THEY NOT GOING AWAY. THE THING ABOUT IT, YOU CAN'T TELL THEM TO MOVE OUT OF THE PARK.

THEY CAN SAY I'M ENJOYING THE PARK.

THAT'S THEIR RIGHT. THANK GOD IT IS JUST THAT PARK AND NOT ALL OF THE PARKS.

SO, YOU KNOW, AND LIKE I SAID, I UNDERSTAND WHAT MR. MURPHY IS SAYING ABOUT HIS PLACE OF BUSINESS.

THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD INVEST IN, HELP HIM PROTECT HIS PLACE OF BUSINESSES. AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM. SO, FOR US TO RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, EVERY CAR THAT LEAVES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE PATROLLING THAT PARK. THERE'S NO SUCH THING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE A DIRECTION AT THE CORNER.

THEY COME, EVERY LIGHT THEY COME OUT, THEY COME RIGHT PASSED THE PARK. FOR THEM TO GET OUT AND PARK AND WALK, HEY, THAT SHOULD BE A SUGGESTION WE SEND TO THEM. LET THEM GET OUT OF THE CAR

AND WALK. >>> MR. JOHNSON?

>> I AGREE WE CAN'T KICK THEM OUT OF THE PARK.

BUT WE CAN REGULATE WHO PROVIDE FOOD AND SERVICES.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE A SPECIAL PERMIT, THERE'S NO DELIVERY OF FOOD TO A PARK. I WOULD THINK.

DELIVERY OF FOOD. >> THAT WILL BE --

>> IT IS EASY FOR THEM TO GET A PERMIT, RIGHT? THEY ARE SPENDING THE MONEYS THAT THEY WOULD FEEDING THE POOR. GIVE THEM A PERMIT.

>> WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE LOCATION.

IF WE HAVE OTHER -- IT GOES BACK TO THE DAYS WHAT I USED TO CALL SOUP KITCHEN WHEN I WAS VOLUNTEERING IN THOSE -- THAT'S WHAT I DID. THE CHURCHES ESTABLISHED A SOUP KITCHEN AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DID.

ALL OF A SUDDEN, OUT OF THE KINDNESS OUT OF OUR HEARTS, WHOMEVER THE GROUPS ARE, MOVED TO THE PARK AND IT MORPHED TO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

MOVE IT BACK. CHURCH, BUSINESS.

>> AN EMPTY CHURCH, MAYBE THAT A SOUP KITCHEN.

>> SARAH'S KITCHEN GOES TO DIFFERENT CHURCHES EVERY

NIGHT. >> THAT'S, YEAH.

THOSE ARE THE PROGRAMS THAT WORK.

>> YOU KNOW, THE REASON ARE IN FORT PIERCE, THEY COME HERE THE WORD OUT THAT FORT PIERCE IS THE PLACE.

IF YOU GO TO THE PARK YOU WILL BE FED.

IF YOU LIVE ON OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS, THERE ARE

BUCKETS AND BUCKETS OF FOOD. >> THEY NEVER NEEDED THE INTERNET TO KNOW EVERYTHING THAT IS NEEDED TO KNOW.

[C. Approval of First Amendment to Developer's Agreement for Development of King's Landing between FPRA, City of Fort Pierce and Audubon.]

>> SHOULD WE WRAP UP? >> THE FIRST AMENDMENT FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THE KINGS LANDING BETWEEN F PA AND

AUTO BON. >> WE HAVE OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER. IS GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU THE CURRENT AGREEMENT WITH AUTO BON FOR KINGS LANDINGS.

>> THANK YOU. >> MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

THAT DIDN'T TAKE LONG FOR US TO HAVE AN AMENDMENT.

WE JUST APPROVED. YOU APPROVED THE AGREEMENT IN NOVEMBER AND THE CITY COMMISSION APPROVED IN

DECEMBER. >> WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF DUE DLEJS PERIOD. AND AUTO BON HAS OBLIGATIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET. WE HAD A PRODUCTIVE LAST WEEK. ALL THE DAYS ARE RUNNING TOGETHER. MAYBE TWO WEEKS.

THERE WAS A PACKED HOUSE IN THE SECOND FLOOR CONFERENCE ROOM. THE COUNTY STAFF, CITY STAFF. EVERYONE WAS EAGER TO GET IT MOVING FORWARD. AND -- PRESENTED AN ALTERNATIVE FUTURE LAND USE. TO CBD.

WHICH IS FUTURE BUSINESS DIRECT.

WE ARE PROVIDING AN AMENDMENT TO CHANGE THAT FUTURE LAND USE TO CBD INSTEAD OF MXD.

THIS WILL GO FORWARD OF CITY COMMISSION AT THE NEXT

MEETING. >> TELL ME --

>> JENNIFER IS HERE TO EXPLAIN THAT.

>>

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JENNIFER. >> 25 WORDS OR LESS.

TELL US WHAT IT MEANS. >>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

THE PURPOSES FROM THE CHANGE IS BECAUSE IT IS WITHIN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. IT IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.

AND ALL OF THE SURROUNDING FUTURE LAND USES IS CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. THE ONLY OTHER AREA IS MIDWAY AND OKEECHOBEE. WE ARE LOOKING AT THE FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING REGULATIONS IN THE DOWNTOWN, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY THINGS ARE NOT PROGRESSING AS QUICKLY AS OTHER COMMUNITIES.

WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS THERE'S A WHOLE RANGE OF ZONING DISTRICTS AND FUTURE LAND USE.

THEY SHOULD BE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.

IN THE FUTURE YOU WILL SEE SOME OF THE CHANGES COMING BEFORE YOU FOR CONSIDERATION.

>> WHAT THE PRACTICAL DIFFERENCE?

>> WELL, CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT IS MORE IN LINE OF WHAT THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE SEES IN THE FUTURE AS MID LEVEL DOWNTOWN. SO IT ALLOWS FOR A GREATER DENSITY AND INTENSITY THAT IS SUITABLE FOR CHARACTERISTIC OF A DOWNTOWN.

AND THE REGULATIONS THAT IMPLEMENT THAT IS THE CENTRAL COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS C 4.

WE WANT EVERYTHING TO BE CONS CONSISTENT. IF YOU ARE IN THE DOWNTOWN, YOU KNOW YOUR NEIGHBOR HAS THE SAME REGULATIONS AS YOU.

>> WHY WAS THIS NOT BROUGHT BEFORE?

>> I WAS NOT PRESENT. >> IT IS YOU THAT IS

BRINGING THIS TO US? >> I DID FIND THIS AND I -- BECAUSE SO MUCH OF WHAT HAS BEEN TAKING PLACE HERE HAS BEEN THROUGH THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

IT PUTS THE OWNERSHIP ON -- WELL, GIVES THE DEVELOPER THE ABILITY TO TELL US WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE AND THIS IS THEN WE ARE CATERING EACH SITE A SITE PLAN.

ZONING IS SPREAD OVER AN AREA, BECAUSE IT HAS CONCERN

DEFINED CHARACTERISTICS. >> I'M SORRY, MADAM.

DOES THAT INCLUDE, EXCLUDE THE HEIGHT LIMITATIONS IN

THIS AREA? >> WELL, THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, IT IS REGULATED THROUGH YOUR MOST OF WHAT CAN FIT ON THAT PROPERTY.

SO, YOUR HEIGHT IS REGULAED BY YOUR DENSITY AND INTENSITY OF WHAT YOU CAN PIT ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY.

>> SO -- >> RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE A HEIGHT LIMITATION. YOU CANNOT GO UP TO 100 FEET IF YOU ARE B 6. IT IS LIMITED TO THE RATION H -- RATIO AND LIMITED FOR

ACRE. >> IT IS 30 DWELLING UNITS.

>> THIRTY. WHAT HAPPENS IF THE KINGS LANDING WENT FORWARD FOR THEIR MIXED USE, IT IS -- ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS SURROUNDING THEM ARE ALLOWED, CURRENTLY, 30 UNITS TO THE ACRE.

>> DOES THIS SUIT WHAT THEY ARE PLANNING?

>> THEY ASKED WHY WE WOULD NOT DO THIS.

WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT. >> TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

THIS WAS APART OF AUTO BON'S DEAL POINTS.

THEY SET FORTH THE LAND USE. AND THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A

GOOD -- >> THERE'S NO SET BACKS TO

THIS IMPLEMENTING THIS? >> THEY ARE SO HAPPY THEY WERE LIKE, OH MY GOODNESS, THEY DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS AN OPTION. THAT'S WHAT DALE MADISON SAID. THERE ARE NO DRAWBACKS.

>> THAT'S THE RESPONSE. >> YES, SIR?

>> IT IS PART OF THE PARTNERSHIP.

IT IS PART OF THE CONTRACTS. PART OF THE AGREEMENTS AS THE DESIGN MORPHS INTO REAL DISCUSSION OF WHAT IS GOING TO GO THERE, OUR PART IS TO PROPERLY ZONE THE PROPERTY.

WE AGREED TO THAT. THERE COULD BE ANOTHER CHANGE. WE DON'T KNOW IF IT IS COMING. I DON'T THINK THERE'S MORE CHANGES. AS IT MORPHS INTO REAL.

WE HAVE TO ADAPT. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> THEY SUBMITTED A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN.

THEY EXPECT TO HAVE THE SIGHT PLAN THIS SUMMER.

IT IS IN LINE OF THE 270 DAYS.

>> WE HAVE TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.

DO WE? >> NO, SIR.

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THIS IS AN AMENDMENT FOR YOU ALL TO APPROVE.

>> MOVE TO PROVE. >> MOVE.

>> YES, SIR. >> JOHNSON.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> HUDSON?

YES, MA'AM. >> THANK YOU AGAIN AN

AMAZING GROUP. >>> YOU TOO.

>> YOU TOO. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

FISHERMAN'S WARF. >> SHE IS TRYING TO GET US

[D. Approval to enter into an Agreement of Sale and Assignment of Florida Voluntary Cleanup Tax Credits with Ulta Salon, Cosmetics & Fragrance, Inc. as the Purchaser of Voluntary Cleanup Tax Credit Certificate Number 1005 for the amount of $455,000.]

OUT OF. >> AND ENTER THE SALE OF VOLUNTEERING CLEAN UP WITH THE SALON AND COSMETICS AS CLEAN UP TAX SNIK 1005 FOR THE AMOUNT OF 455 THOUSAND

DOLLARS. >>> MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, WE DO KNOW HAVE A PURCHASER FOR THE TAX CREDIT CERTIFICATE THAT WE RECENTLY WORKED INTO A PLACEMENT AGREEMENT WITH FALL BROOK FINANCE. AS YOU RECALL AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING YOU INSTRUCTED ME TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE TAX CREDIT CERTIFICATE.

WE HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED THE END USER OF THE FUNDS.

THAT'S YET TO COME. THIS IS SIMPLE A PURCHASE AGREEMENT WITH ULTA COSMETICS.

AND OF THAT TAX CREDIT WE WOULD RECEIVE 455 THOUSAND DOLLARS. THAT WOULD COME DIRECTLY ON THE COMPLETION OF THE SALE. WE ARE ASKING FOR MOTION

APPROVAL. >> WE WILL APPROVE.

>> CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. >> IT SHOULD BE LIKE THAT ON

EVERY ITEM. >>> MR. SESSIONS, THANK YOU.

>> YOU LIKE THAT? >> I LIKE THAT.

>> OKAY. >> WE HAVE COMMISSIONER

SESSIONS. >> YES.

>> YES. >> JOHNSON.

>> YES. >> HUDSON.

>> YES. >> SHE ANSWERED FOR YOU.

WAS THAT THE RIGHT ANSWER? >> I THOUGHT SHE ASKED WHO

DID THE SECOND. >> I DID TOO.

>> COMMISSION SESSIONS. >> YES.

>> YOU CALLED ROLL CALL. >> YEP.

>> OKAY. >> YEAH.

>>> YOU ON THE WATER DIET. WE ALREADY.

[E. Fisherman's Wharf Redevelopment]

>>> MOVING ON. ARE WE READY?

>> WE ARE GOING TO THE FISHERMAN'S WARF.

MADAM CHAIR, WE HAVE WITH US THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER AND ONE OF THE 40 UNDER 40 THAT WAS

RECOGNIZED. >> YES.

I HAVEN'T SEEN THE ARTICLE. I WANT TO SEE IT.

>> SHE IS A GOING TO BRING TO US SOME COMMUNITY INPUT FEEDBACK AS WELL AS THE DRAFT RFP FOR THE DEVELOP.

>> THANK YOU. >>> I HOPE YOU ARE NOT GOING TO READ EVERY SINGLE COMMENT.

I GOT TIRED OF READING IT. >> IT IS GRUELING.

IT WAS AWESOME. THIS WAS ONE OF THE MOST RESPONDED SURVEYS WE HAVE HAD.

>> IT WAS. YEP.

>> I HAVE SUMMARIZED. >> 632 RESPONSES.

THIS IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE OF THE QUESTIONS WERE OPEN ENDED. WHICH IS MY I SUMMARIZED THEM. I AM FLOORED BY THE FEEDBACK. I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THIS WITH

YOU NOW. >> THE TOP FOUR IN THE FISHERMAN'S, MARINE RELATED USE, PUBLIC USE, DOCKS, AND

IT WAS CLICKED 290 TIMES. >> RESTAURANT, MARINE TRANSP TRANSPORTATION, WATER TAXI, AND NUMBER THREE. AND OUTDOOR EVENT SPACE.

THIS IS MORE THAN THAT 632 THERE WERE ABLE TO SELECT

MULTIPLE. >> SO, DRILLING DOWN ON THE MARINE RELATED USE. THE MOST DESIRED USE WAS REC REATIONAL, BOAT RAMPS AND LET'S LOOK AT THE

PERCENTAGE. >> ACROSS THE BOARD, GAMBLING BOATS WERE MENTIONED AND BAIT AND TACKLE SHOPS. THERE WERE REPETITIVE.

NOT A LOT. >> WHAT WOULD HELP THE WATERFRONT BE FOR VIBRANT. THIS IS THE WORD CLOUD.

THE LARGEST WORDS RESTAURANTS BEING ONE, AND ENTERTAINMENT AND NIGHT LIFE, PARKS AND PLAYGROUNDS.

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THIS CAME UP A LOT. I KIND OF CATEGORIZED THEM AS PARKS AND PLAYGROUNDS, WALKING SPACES, RECS, SPLASH PADS. I COUPLED ALL OF THAT IN

PARKS AND PLAYGROUNDS. >> GO AHEAD.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. DID THEY UNDERSTAND THE BOUNDARIES OF FISHERMAN'S W WARF? IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE SURVEY. THIS WAS JUST THE WATERFRONT IN GENERAL. THIS WAS HOW CAN OUR WATERFRONT BE MORE VIBRANT. SO I DIDN'T PIGEON HOLE THEM

INTO ONE SPOT. >> MADAM MAYOR?

>> YES. >> IT IS THE CITY NORTH OF US, ONE OF THE CITIES NORTH OF US THEY HAVE A SIMILAR AREA AND THEY JUST HAVE THEY ENTERTAINMENT FOR WATER, WATER ENTERTAINMENT. FOR THE KIDS.

HAVE WE ASKED THE COUNTY WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO

WITH THE PROPERTIES? >> YES, SIR.

THE STAFF HAS TALKED TO STAFF AT SAINT LUCIE COUNTY.

>> NORTH OF THE POINT. >> I THOUGHT THEY WERE

MAKING THAT INTO A PARK. >> ARE YOU TALKING --

>> THERE'S NO MOVEMENT AT THIS TIME AT THE PORT OR

HARBOR POINT PARK. >> I MEAN, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MOVING, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

THEY DON'T HAVE A FIVE YEAR, 25 YEAR PLAN?

>> I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE COUNTY.

I KNOW THE CITY OF PIERCE WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN. I'M SURE THEY WILL GET ON BOARD ONCE THEY SEE US MOVING AND SHAKING.

>> CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE FIRST SCREEN THAT SHOWS THE BOUNDARIES. AM I LOOKING --

>> IT IS THREE PARCELS. ONE HERE, ONE HERE, THIS IS

THAT THE CITY OWNS. RCEL - >> IT IS PART OF THE PARK

ACTUALLY. >> IT IS THE BAIT SHOP IN

THE NORTHWEST CORNER RIGHT? >> RIGHT.

>> AND THE 12 A RIGHT THERE, NOT ON OUR PROPERTY, RIGHT?

>> IT IS A STAND ALONE PARCELS.

THE PARKING IS OURS. >> OKAY.

>> WHERE ARE WE MAYOR -- I'M SORRY, ON THAT VERY POINT --

>> RIGHT HERE? >> THOSE TWO PARCELS?

>> I THOUGHT WE WERE NEGOTIATING SOMETHING.

>> THERE WAS SOMETHING TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTIES.

I DON'T BELIEVE THE CURRENT ON THE PARTS WANT TO SELL.

THEY HAVE APPROACHED ME AND THEY WANT TO EXPAND THEIR BUSINESS INTO OUR PROPERTY THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT

RIGHT NOW. >> OKAY.

>> IS THAT -- >> YES, MA'AM.

>> WE ARE PUTTING IDEAS TOGETHER.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> PARTNERSHIP.

>> THAT IS A POSSIBILITY. >> YEAH.

WE ARE GOING ABOUT TO INVADE THEIR PROPERTIES VERY SOON WITH BLOCKING OTHER ROAD AND ANYTHING THAT WE MAY BE DOING IN THAT AREA. THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET

TO THEIR PROPERTY. >> IDEALLY, IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AS WELL AS THE

COUNTY. >> MY OTHER QUESTION IS ABOUT THE NEIGHBORS, THE OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT.

THEY RAN ONE RESTAURANT OUT OF BUSINESSES.

WITH THE COMPLAINTS OF LOUD MUSIC.

AND ENTERTAINMENT. WE ARE NOT CONSIDERING THAT?

>> THIS IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY RESPONDED.

YES, SIR, THAT IS CONSIDERED.

>> THE COMMUNITY ON THE BEACH AND SOUTH FORT PIERCE IS NOT RIGHT THERE. THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> YES, SIR. >> WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY

TO THEM. >> ABSOLUTELY.

YES, SIR. >> DID THEY HAVE INPUT IN THEM AND RECOGNIZE ANY OF THEM?

>> WE DIDN'T GO DOOR TO DOOR, NO, SIR.

THEY MAY HAVE SUBMITTED A COMMUNITY SURVEY.

NO, SIR, WE DIDN'T GO DOOR AND DOOR.

THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO IN THE FUTURE.

>> WHEN I HEAR OUTDOOR ENTERTAINMENT.

IT IS BOOM. BOOM.

>> KEEP IN MIND. YES, SIR.

>> OKAY. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> BOAT DOCKS AND RAMPING THAT CAME HIGH IN ON THE THE RE WATER TAXI. FISH MARKETS, BAIT SHOPS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. MIXED USE CAME UP.

FISHING. OUR RESIDENTS.

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THE RESIDENTS DON'T WANT THEIR FISHING ACCESS TAKEN AWAY. IT IS IMPORTANT.

>> HOTEL, RESIDENTIAL. IT WAS ENOUGH TO MENTION IN

THE WORD CLOUD. >> IN REFERENCE TO THE REDEVELOPMENTS, PEOPLE ARE MOST EXCITED ABOUT THE FOLLOWING; ACCESS TO THE WATERFRONT, ADDED ECONOMIC TO THE COMMUNITY, NUMBER TWO, ADDED VIBRANT TO THE WATERFRONT. CRUISE SHIPS AND BOATS WERE MENTIONED IN THE OTHER COMMENTS.

>> WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EXPANDED ACCESS TO WATERFRONT. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT --

>> IT COULD BE BOTH. >> AND WE ARE GOING TO GET TO A QUESTION SHORTLY ABOUT WHAT DRAWING PEOPLE TO THIS AREA RIGHT NOW, A LOT IS SIGHT SEEING AND WALKING.

THEY DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT WITH A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT THAT THE COMMUNITY WON'T BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT WATERFRONT. THAT IS PART OF FORT PIERCE'S DRAW. THAT WE HAVE THE ACCESS.

>> DO WE HAVE THE RENDERS POSTED?

>> NO, SIR. >> YOU CAN'T HAVE WATERFRONT THAT IS JUST FOR HANGING OUT.

>> IT IS BOTH. >> IT IS BOTH.

>> YES. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> HERE WE GO. HERE WE ARE.

THE 12 A BUOY. FISHING, BOAT RAMPS.

AND MULTIPLE WROTE OUT NOTHING IN THE COMMENTS.

THAT NOTHING DRAWS HIM TO FISHERMAN'S.

IT IS POSSIBLE IF THEY DON'T USE THE BOAT RAMPS OR THE

RESTAURANT. >> YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER

REASON TO GO THERE. >> DEMOGRAPHICS.

77 PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE WHO TOOK THE SURVEY LIVE IN FORT PIERCE. THAT'S HUGE.

>> THAT IS. >> PORT SAINT LUCIE AND OUT OF STATE HAD A RESPOND AS WELL.

49 PERCENT AGED 55-74. SO WE ARE STRUGGLING IN TRYING TO GET THE YOUNGER POPULATION TO RESPOND TO THE SURVEYS. WE ARE WORKING TO IMPROVE

THAT ALL OF THE TIME. >> XEES ME.

ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A BOOT AT THE JOB FAIR? THIS SURVEY IS CLOSED AT THIS TIME.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GET FEEDBACK.

WE CAN. THE CITY WILL HAVE A BOOTH.

>> WE DIDN'T GET OUT TO THE COLLEGE LIKE THE KING PLAN WHICH IS UNIQUE. ABSOLUTELY, SIR.

>>> HERE, LET'S PAUSE FOR A SECOND AND THINK ABOUT THE NEXT STEPS WHERE WE DONE TO GO FROM HERE.

WE PUT A DRAFT SOLICITATION OUT.

WE CAN PROCEED THAT WAY AND GO THROUGH A TIMELINE AND HOW WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD FROM THIS POINT ON.

WE GATHERED THE COMMUNITY INPUT.

WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? LOOKING AT A DRAFT SOLICITATION, WE USE THE SAME DRAFT AS KING PLANT.

THE STATION LANGUAGE IS SIMILAR, TAILORED TO THIS.

WE DON'T WANT TO SAY EVER, BLANK SLATE AGAIN.

ARE WE IN AGREEMENT THAT IT DIDN'T WORK.

MIXED USE PROJECT ON THE PROPERTY THAT INCLUDES PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE WATERFRONT.

I THINK THAT ONE PHRASE COULD INCORPORATE THE COMMUNITY'S INPUT AND SUPPLYING ALL OF THEIR FEEDBACK. SOLICITATION DISTURBANCE IS SIMILAR TO KING PLANT ON THE SITES AND PLATFORMS. AND A SCHEDULE IF WE WANT TO GO THIS FAR, I MEAN, WE ARE HERE TONIGHT. WE CAN ISSUE AS SOON AS 30 DAYS, AND MEETING IN MARCH, AND CLOSE THE RFQ IN APRIL.

COME TO YOU WITH A SHORT LIST AT THE END OF APRIL AND USE RF P AND MOVE ON FROM THERE.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> IS THAT IT?

>> IT IS A LOT. EXCUSE ME.

>> IT IS OKAY. >>> SO, THERE'S SOME PERHAPS LIMITATION ON THAT PROPERTY BECAUSE IT THE SHAPE OF IT AND ALSO I'M NOT A BOATER. I WILL DEPEND ON

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COMMISSIONER JOHNSON WHO KNOWS ABOUT BOATING.

ISN'T THAT BOAT RAMP, ISN'T THAT A DIFFICULT TO NAVIGATE

OUT OF THAT NARROW WATER -- >> YOUR BOAT NO, IN YOUR TRUCK AND TRAILER YES. IT IS PERFECT FOR DRIVE UP ACCESS. THERE ARE COMMENTS TO HAVE A BOAT RAMP. IT IS A GOOD BOAT RAMP.

IT IS A PROTECTED BOAT RAMP. HOWEVER, YOU CAN SEE IN THIS PICTURE ALONE, THERE'S PROBABLY 12 PARKING SPACES.

THAT'S IT. >> YES.

>> OH YOU -- YOU HAVE TO PARK ON THE COUNTY PARKING LOT AND ON THE SECOND STREET.

>> WE START TALKING ABOUT THIS, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A BOAT RAMP. I'M GLAD YOU ASKED IT.

AS MUCH AS IT PAINS ME TO SAY I WANT TO SAY MOVE BOAT RAMP. IT GIVES HUNDREDS OF TRUCKS AND TRAILERS ACCESS TO THE WATER.

AND IT TO BE IN THE VICINITY OF THE BRIDGE.

THAT'S WHERE THE INLET IS. THAT'S AN ECONOMIC DRIVER

WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT. >> HARBOR POINT PARK.

>> IF THAT'S THE RIGHT SPOT. YOU CAN'T SAY WE HAVE TO USE THE BOAT RAMP ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BRIDGE.

IT IS INFLUENCED BY CURRENT. IT IS NOT A GOOD BOAT RAMP.

I WILL NOT USE IT. >> ON THE MANATEE CENTER?

>> BY THE CAUSEWAY PARK. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> YOU KNOW, I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE VERY, VERY UNPOPULAR TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE KNOWN FORT PIERCE FOR A LONG TIME. HAVING THE BOAT RAMP THERE IT IS A PROBLEM TO DO OTHER THINGS WITH THE AREA.

>> IF IT IS CLOSE BY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BATTLE FOR A

PARKING SPACE. >> I DON'T KNOW WHERE CLOSE BY WOULD BE. THAT'S ONE PROBLEM.

THE BOAT RAMP AND 12 A BUOY. IF WE TAKEAWAY TWO INSTITUTIONS, THE RESTAURANT AND THE BOAT RAMP, WE MIGHT

AS WELL SAY BYE, BYE. >> THERE'S A BIG PARCEL.

WE HAVE TO CHANGE HOW WE PARK.

>> SO, WE WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THOSE INSTITUTIONS THAT

PEOPLE TREASURE. >> SO, THOSE ARE MY

THOUGHTS. >> I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE BOAT RAMP. WAS THAT A QUESTION TO THE RESPONDERS. THE INPUT.

>> I DIDN'T ASK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE BOAT RAMP.

THEY BROUGHT IT UP. >> IS SOMETHING DIRECTLY SHOULD BE ASKED FOR THE COMMUNITY.

>> WE CERTAINLY CAN. >> IF YOU HAVE 700 PEOPLE, 600 OF THEM SAY LEAVE IT THERE.

THEY CAN FIND A PARKING SPACE.

BELIEVE ME. >> OH, I KNOW.

I HAVE PUT OUR BOAT IN AND IT IS A STRUGGLE.

WE DON'T HAVE MANY BOAT RAMPS.

>> THE QUICKEST WAY TO GET WALL TO WALL TRAFFIC IS CITY HALL COMMISSION CHAMBER NEEDS TO TALK ABOUT DOING AWAY WITH THE BOAT RAMP. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BETTER ONE THAT IS WITHIN A STONES THROW.

>> WHERE IS THAT? >> WHERE IS THAT?

>> RIGHT NOW, WE CLOSE ONE OF THE BOAT RAMPS FOR 4 MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR. MAYBE WE NEED TO RECONSIDER THAT. IF YOU TALK TO A LOT OF FOLKS, MANATEE IS THE BEST BOAT RAMP.

>> IT IS. >> IT IS PROTECTED FROM THE

WIND AND CURRENT. >> YOU BACK IN AND YOU DON'T

HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ISSUES. >> IT IS THE ONE TO GO TO.

IT IS FURTHER AWAY FROM THE INLET.

IT IS THE BEST ONE. SO, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU TIE ALL OF THAT IN AND SELL THAT.

IT IS LIMITED IN PARKING TOO.

>> IT HAS MORE THAN THAT. NOT VERY MUCH.

STILL LIMITED. >> IT IS SHARED.

>> IT IS SHARED EXACTLY. >> EXACTLY.

>> WE DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT.

>> WE DON'T. WE DON'T.

IT IS A REAL ISSUE. >> THE SHUFFLE BOARD COURT.

OH. >> NEVERMIND.

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>>> SO I GO BACK TO THE RENDERS THAT THE STAFF PUT TOGETHER AND THE IDEA OF THE FISHING VILLAGE FEEL.

I DON'T ONE TO INFLUENCE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SUBMIT.

I'M NOT AN ECONOMIST OR A DEVELOPER.

WE HAVE A VISION. >> ABSOLUTE I.

>> I THINK I MISUNDERSTOOD. I THOUGHT YOU SAID DID YOU PUT IT IN WITH THE COMMUNITY INPUT.

>> I DID. >> IS IT AN AI--

>> YOU ARE PUTTING THAT IN AS AN RFP.

>> ABSOLUTELY. THERE ARE STUDIES BY THE CITY, COUNTY. OUTSIDE.

>>> ABSOLUTELY. >> THE PORT MASTER PLAN.

THAT'S THE WHOLE THING THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT, HOW IT AFFECTS THE PORT AND HOW IT AFFECTS THE SITE.

>> YOU CAN CONTINUE TO TALK. I WILL PULL UP THE --

>> SO. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> THERE ARE COUPLE OF ISSUES.

WE SHOULDN'T EVEN TRY TO FIND SOLUTIONS FOR WHAT WE

ARE GOING TO DO. >> COMING UP WITH A

PROBLEMS. >> EXACTLY.

>> WE ARE GENERATING BLOOD PRESSURE FOR OURSELVES.

I DON'T THINK THAT IS NECESSARY.

I THINK AT THIS POINT, IT IS ALL ABOUT DO WE WISH TO PRECEDE SEEKING A QUALIFIED DEVELOPER TO COME IN AND DEVELOP SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO MAKE IT BETTER WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY AND BRING US UP TO THE NEXT AREA OF --

>> WE ARE REVIEWING THIS PWITH THE BOARD.

I WANT YOU TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.

>> THANK YOU. >> YOU SAY THANK YOU NOW.

>> VERY COMFORTABLE. >> THESE ARE ALL OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ARE GOING TO PROP

PROPOSING. >> IT IS MY LIST.

BY MY QUICK SEARCH. THERE'S A LOT OF MATERIAL THAT COULD HELP SOMEONE PREPARE THEIR PROPOSAL.

>> YES. >> YES, SIR?

>> WE ARE HERE TO HELP THEM HELP THEMSELVES.

>> AND HELP US. >> RIGHT.

>> AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I WOULD BE FOR GOING AHEAD WITH RFP AND SEEING WHAT IS OUT THERE.

>> IT IS THE RIGHT TIME. THE ECONOMY IS RIGHT.

CREATIVE MINDS CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN.

>> THE SCHEDULE SEEM OKAY? >> YEAH.

>> I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN DO IT FASTER.

>> ME NEITHER. >> YOU CAN'T GO HOME ANYMORE. STAY RIGHT HERE.

SO WE ARE GOOD WITH THAT. >> AND THE SOLICITATION LANGUAGE MIXED USED PROJECT THAT INCLUDES PUBLIC ACCESS.

>> THAT'S A DESCRIPTION. I'M GOING BACK TO WHAT JENNIFER SAID. MIXED USE.

THAT'S ZONING. THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH

THIS, RIGHT? >> IT IS DESCRIBING.

>> A LESSON FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS TO NOT CALL OUT SPECIFICS. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH

ZONING. >> OKAY.

>> EVALUATION, CRITERIA, DO YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THAT QUICKLY? SOMETHING THAT CAME UP WITH THE KING PLANTS. WE ARE SEASONED PROFESSIONALS WITH THE RFP'S NOW.

>> HERE WE COME. >> IT IS WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSE

TO DOING. >> IN THE PROCESS OF ALL OF THIS, THEY WILL REALIZE THAT THIS IS A BUFFER ZONE BETWEEN DOWNTOWN AND THE PORT?

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> THIS IS SELF-EVIDENT.

>> IT IS MENTIONED. >> IT IS MENTIONED?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> IT IS MENTIONED.

>> I BELIEVE YOU. IT IS ALREADY.

>> EVALUATION CRITERIA. >>> SO, THE ONE CHANGE THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM KINGS LANDING IS PUBLIC BENEFIT.

THIS ITEM WAS CALLED TRAFFIC IMPACT OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. YOU GUYS WERE THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE VALUE IS THERE AS AN EVALUATION CRITERIA.

SO, WE PUT PUBLIC BENEFIT BECAUSE THAT WAS MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES IN THE SURVEY FEEDBACK.

PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS THE BUBBLE PLAN OF WHAT THEY WANT TO PUT THERE. THAT'S THE GREATEST WEIGHT, MEANING THE CRA GOALS WE HAVE A BRAND NEW PLAN.

ECONOMIC FEASIBILITY, ACQUISITION AND FINANCING.

THE FRPA PURCHASED THE PROPERTY WHEN IS DIFFERENT THAN THE KINGS. IT IS DIFFERENT TO SEE HOW

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THAT PLAYS OUT. SCHEDULE, IT IS INTERESTING TO SEE HOW IT PROGRESSED AND THE QUALIFICATIONS AND EXPERIENCE OF THE PROPOSER. WE DIDN'T SPELL THAT OUT IN THE KING PLANT RF P AND WE WANT TO DO THAT.

>> YOU ARE GETTING TO BE EXPERTS.

>> WE GOT THIS. >> ANYTHING ELSE? DO YOU NEED A MOTION ON THIS?

>> YES, WE DO A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ADVERTISING OF THE RFP HAS DRAFTED WITH THE ASSOCIATED

SCHEDULE. >> SET.

>> THERE'S A MOTION. CALL THE ROLL.

>> ALEXANDER. >> YES.

>> SESSIONS. YES, MA'AM.

>> HUDSON. >> YES, MA'AM.

[F. The Oaks at Moore's Creek Phase 2 Request for Proposals]

>>> THE NEXT ITEM IS THE OAKS AT MOORE'S CREEK

REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS. >> YOU HEARD FROM THE COMMITTEE, WE HAD A RECOMMENDATION FOR THEM FROM THEM TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RFP FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. GIVING YOU HISTORY, THE MOORE'S CREEK WAS AN OLD PROPOSAL, IT RESULTED IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF 12 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, 1200-1800 SQUARE FEET. THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS A SUSTAINABLE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT STILL LOOKS GOOD.

ALL, IF NOT MOST, OF THE OWNERS ARE RESIDENTS IN THE HOMES. WE ARE NO LONGER HOLDERS OF THE MORTGAGE. I BELIEVE NOW BASED ON THE ECONOMIC CLIMATE WE CAN FIND A DEVELOPER AND BRING ABOUT A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT EXCEEDS THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT AND HAS AN AFFORDABLE PRICE POINT.

>> THE PRICE POINT COULD NOT BE I GUESS MET IN 2015 TO GET A FIRST TIME HOME BUYER IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.

WE HAD A FIRST TIME HOME BUY BUYERS, EMERGENCY WORKERS, NURSES, AND THINGS OF THAT SORT. WE TARGETED THOSE INDIVIDUALS. WE WANT TO DO THE SAME THING IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE AS WELL.

WE FEEL THAT -- I'M LISTENING TO MR. JONES TALK ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. I SEE THAT THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE COMPONENT. I BELIEVE THAT PHASE TWO CAN ADD TO THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD AND BRING ABOUT A GREATER SENSE OF NEIGHBORHOOD PRIDE IN THAT AREA. WE ARE LOOKING FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DRAFTING OF THIS RFP AND SOLICITATION FOR A DEVELOPER.

>> IT IS WHERE THE STAR IS? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> IT BACKS UP TO THE HOUSES THAT ARE ALREADY BUILT?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> WILL THERE BE ANOTHER

STREET? >> THERE'S A RIGHT OF WAY, IT IS MEANS COURT RIGHT OF WAY.

WHAT IS CRA COULD POSSIBLY DO IS UTILIZE.

WE HAVE TO HAVE A KCALL DESACK, THAT WOULD HAVE FAMILY UNITS TO HELP THE EXISTING AREA.

>> ISN'T THERE ALREADY DEDICATED STREET IN THE

MIDDLE OF THAT? >> YES.

MEANS COURT. AVENUE B TO THE CANAL?

>> YES, SIR. MEANS COURT.

THAT'S THE NAME OF IT? >> MEANS COURT.

>> I WANTED TO BE SURE. IT IS A DIRT ROAD, RIGHT?

>> YES. >> A FEW QUESTIONS ON THAT.

I WASN'T HERE IN 2015. WAS THERE A CONTRIBUTION IN THE ORIGINAL PROJECT? DID WE TALK ABOUT SOFT COSTS? WHAT DID WE DO?

>> I BELIEVE THIS IS 2006, '07.

I DON'T RECALL. IT WAS A COMBINATION EOF F FPRA. THEY ACQUIRED THE PROPERTIES. A COUPLE OF OLD HOUSES THE THEY PURCHASED THE LAND. C

CDBG THROUGH MITIGATION. >> HURRICANE RECOVERY.

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>> I'M SORRY. >> THE MAYOR WAS VERY

FAMILIAR WITH THIS. >> RIGHT.

THE HURRICANE HOUSING RECOVERY FUNDS WERE USED TO OFFSET THE COST OF THE CONSTRUCTION.

AND USED TO HELP WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOMES.

WHAT HAPPENS THE HOMES WERE BUILT, THE CITY OF FORCE PIERCE RETAINED THE MORTGAGES.

THE CITY HELPED TO QUALIFY THE INDIVIDUALS THAT RESIDE IN THE HOMES AND THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE MANAGED THE MORTGAGES, SENT THE MORTGAGES, MANAGED THE ESCROW. YOU ALL, THE CITY OF PIERCE DECIDED NOT TO BE IN THE MORTGAGE BUSINESS.

>> -- THE LAND IS THE BAIT. WE GIVE THEM THE LAND AND WORK ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES, WHAT MR. JONES WAS TALKING ABOUT. THEY COME IN AND THEY BUILD THE HOUSES AND THEY FIND THE RESIDENTS FOR THOSE.

>> THAT WHAT WAS I WAS LOOKING FOR.

THE SOFT COSTS. THE LAND OWNERSHIP IS WITH

US. >> YES, SIR.

>> THAT'S PART OF THAT. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU EXPAND AND DEVELOP, THERE ARE ALWAYS THINGS LIKE IMPACT FEES, INFRASTRUCTURE, AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT AN EXPENSE TO THE TAXPAYER RIGHT NOW.

IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS COMING INTO THE CITY WITH NEW TAX REVENUE OR CREDITS WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

I CALL THOSE THE SOFT COST THAT COME WITH DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY. IS THERE A WAY, DO YOU HAVE A PLAN TO IMPLEMENT ANY KIND OF HELP TO LURE THE DEVELOPER HERE IN ADDITION TO THE LAND ITSELF?

>> I WILL SAY I DON'T WANT TO SAY AT THIS BOARD MEETING WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO. I WANT THE DEVELOPER TO PROPOSAL AND WE'LL WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER TO GET FOLKS TO HAVE HOMES THAT ARE AT A PRICE POINT THAT THEY CAN

AFFORD. >> I AGREE WITH THAT.

WE DON'T NEED TO REINVENT THE WHEELS.

>> YES, SIR. THERE ARE OPTIONS ACROSS THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND THE U.S. LIKE YOU STATED.

WE CAN FIND SOLUTIONS TO MAKE THIS WORK.

>> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER. >>> IN 2006, WHEN THEY FIRST ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY, THERE WERE 24 HOMES PROPOSED.

WE ONLY BUILT 12. >> 12, CORRECT.

>> MY QUESTION TWO-PART QUESTION.

>> IS THOSE RECOVERY FUNDS, HURRICANE FUNDS, WAS -- WHAT

HAPPENED TO THE OTHER HOMES? >> THAT IS A JOHNAQUESTION.

>> IT IS TWO-PART. ASKING AND ANSWERING.

WHEN WE RECEIVED THE MONEYS FROM THE SALES OF THOSE PROPERTIES. YOU KNOW, WHERE IS THAT

FUND? >> WE DO HAVE THAT FUNDING.

AND SHE CAN ANSWER THAT. >> ARE WE GOING TO USE ANY

OF THAT AND RECOVERY? >> NO, SIR.

>> WHEN WE SOLD THE MORTGAGES I THINK IT IS HARBOR COMMUNITY BANK. THE MONEY WAS DESIGNATED TO GO BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THE SHIP PROGRAM.

>> IT HAS BEEN USED. >> IT IS BEING USED.

>> WE SHOULD STOP THAT PROPORTION OF BEING USED AND FOCUS IT BACK WHERE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PLACED.

IF WE WOULD HAVE TAKEN THE MONEY FROM THE SALES OF THOSE HOUSES AND PUT IT OFF SOME WHERE TO REDEVELOP THE PROPERTY. IT IS READY.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE. ONLY THING WE HAVE TO DO IS PUT THAT OTHER ROAD IN THERE BETWEEN B AND --

>> THERE NEEDS TO BE THE MEANS COURT RIGHT OF WAY.

>> -- >> THE PERCENTAGE CAN WE GIVE SOMEONE THAT IS COMING INTO THIS CITY.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IMPACT FEES AND ALL OF THAT.

WE CAN'T WAIVE THOSE FEES? AT ONE TIME WE HAD NO IMPACT

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FEES. IN THE PAST.

>> BEFORE SHE SPEAKS, WE HAD ENTER ZONES.

THEY WERE PHASED OUT BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

THEY HAD A LOCAL INCENTIVE THAT WAIVED IMPACT FEES WITHIN THOSE BOUNDARIES. WE ARE LOOKING AT MORATORIUM

FOR THE F PR A. >> IT IS GOING BEFORE THE BOARD AND BEFORE YOU SHORTLY.

>> WE CAN PUT THAT INTO -- >> THAT COULD BE PART OF OUR

CAFETERIA. >> I WILL GET HER SPEAK NOW

ON THE OTHER MONEYS. >> MRS. MORRIS?

>> TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION COMMISSIONER, THOSE FUNDS WHEN IT WAS IMPLEMENTED. IT WAS SUPPOSE TO FUNDS THAT WERE USED BY THE PAYMENTS THAT WERE TO BE MADE ON THE LOANS THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE.

YOU ALL ARE AWARE FOR YEARS WE HAVE HAD AN ISSUE TO NON PAYMENT ON SEVERAL OF THOSE LOANS, WHICH MEANS THE FUNDS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN GENERATED TO GO BACK INTO THE PROGRAM TO HELP THE PROGRAM MOVE FORWARD HAVE NOT MATERIALIZED AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED.

AND SO, THOSE FUNDS ARE LIMITED AS TO WHAT WE ARE GETTING IN. THE MONEY IS HOUSED IN THE 106 FUND. I'M GIVING A MONTHLY REPORT AS TO HOW MUCH MONEY WE ARE RECUPERATING IN THE FUND.

THAT'S ALL OF THE MONEY IN THE FUNDS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE PAYING ON THE LOANS THAT ARE IN PLACE.

THAT'S WHY A PORTION OF THE PROGRAM HAS FAILED AND THE REVENUE IS NOT THERE TO HELP SUSTAIN OR KEEP THE PROGRAM GOING. AS HE EXPLAINED FROM THE SALE OF THE MORTGAGES, YOU DESIGNATED THAT THE FUNDS WERE TO GO BACK INTO THE SHIP PROGRAM.

AND THE PROJECTS FOR REHAB. WE HAD SEVERAL PRINCIPALINGS THAT CAME FORWARD FOR APPROVAL THAT WOULD REHAB

SEVERAL HOMES IN THE AREA. >> A MOMENT].

>>> MY QUESTION IS ARE WE GOING TO EXPAND FROM OAKS BECAUSE THEY HAVE PROPOSALS OF DOING PROPERTIES ON DIFFERENT -- JUST NORTH OF THE OAKS BEFORE THEY BUILD THE POLICE STATION.

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WE GOT PROPERTIES THERE THAT WE GOT VACANT. >> YES, SIR.

WE'VE GOT SEVERAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE VACANT IN THE HILL BY THE OWNERSHIP.

I THINK THIS IS JUST THE INITIAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. THE CLIMATE IS GOOD, SIR.

AND I DO BELIEVE THAT FORT PIERCE IS RIPE FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

THIS ISN'T THE FIRST. IT WON'T BE THE LAST. AND THERE WILL BE MANY MORE.

>> ALL THE WAY FROM ORLANDO. >> YES. >> THEY HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS ALL OVER ORLANDO. AND I KNOW ONE I THINK THEY CALL IT --

>> PARAMOUNT. >> PARAMOUNT. >> BUILT A SOCCER STADIUM THERE,

TOO. YEAH. >> I KNOW THE HOTEL MAGNANT, HE'S VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND HE'S MAKING A DIFFERENCE.

AND WE GOT TO BE ABLE TO OPEN OUR CITY UP. IF NOT, IT'S GOING TO GO TO THE SEWAGE. YOU KNOW. WE'RE GOING TO REDEVELOPMENT INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WILL PROBABLY HAVE THE WORST PLUMBING YOU EVER CAN RECALL. SURELY. SURELY.

I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON.

>> YEAH, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. I THINK THE TIMING IS RIGHT.

I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT IN LETTING THE DEVELOPER BRING US IDEAS AND LET THEM TELL US WHAT IS THE GOING MARKET. WHAT'S THE GOING RATE. THIS IS WHAT WE NEED FROM YOU.

IT'S THOSE INDIRECT SOFT COSTS THAT I KNOW WE CAN HELP OUT WITH IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE THAT'S AN EXPENSIVE PART OF THE ENTIRE PROCESS. KALITTA BROUGHT TO US -- I THINK IT WAS KALITTA. A THOUSAND PROPERTIES OR 800 PROPERTIES.

IT WAS A WHOLE BUNCH OF THEM. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. >> COMMUNITY LAND TRUST.

>> I WAS GETTING THROUGH MY DUST PILE. YEAH, NOT THE EXACT SAME

PROGRAM. HOWEVER, A KICKSTART. >> YES, SIR.

>> ALL RIGHT. YES, SIR. >> WHEN THIS WENT OFF IN THE BEGINNING LAST TIME WITH OAKS, AT MORRIS CREEK, IT WAS WE REALLY GOT PRETTY GOOD RESPONSES IN TERMS OF PEOPLE GOING OUT THERE PURCHASING THE PROPERTY. THE BUSINESS MAY NOT HAVE BEEN TAKEN CARE OF LATER ON IN TERMS OF THE MORTGAGES. BUT WE GOT GREAT RESPONSES.

WE WERE SURPRISED AT THE RESPONSES THAT WE GOT IN LIGHT OF THE RESIDENCE THAT WANTED TO MOVE OUT THERE. SO IT WORKED BEFORE. AND IT WAS, I THINK, MORE SO THAN ANYTHING THE QUALITY OF THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES IN THAT AREA.

I MEAN, THESE WERE NICE BUILDINGS. NOW IT'S QUESTIONABLE WHETHER OR NOT THE SUBSTANCE OF THE BUILDINGS WERE QUALITY. BUT IN TERMS OF THE ARCHITECTURE AND THE DESIGN AND WHERE IT WAS LOCATED, IN THE YARDS, WE DID REAL WELL FOR THE AREA.

I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE CAN'T DO THE SAME THING AND EXPAND IT AND BE JUST AS SUCCESSFUL THIS TIME. WE JUST LEAVE THE MORTGAGE BUSINESS ALONE.

>> YES. >> SO YOU NEED A MOTION ON THIS? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> IS SOMEBODY WILLING TO MAKE A SECOND? >> SECOND.

>> CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. >> MR. JOHNSON. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> MR. SESSIONS. >> YES, MA'AM. >> COMMISSIONER --

[G. Economic Development Strategy and Funding]

>> YES, MA'AM. >> NEXT WE HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY AND

FUNDING. >> MADAM CHAIR, WE NOW HAVE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE ABOUT OUR UPCOMING STRATEGY FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

>> WELCOME. >> THANK YOU. >> SCOTT.

>> SO WE PRESENTED THIS, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. WE PRESENTED THIS BACK IN JULY.

THIS WAS JUST KIND OF A BROAD PLAN WITH NO FUNDING ATTACHED OF JUST KIND OF SOME DIFFERENT STRATEGIES AND SOME DIFFERENT GRANT PROGRAMS THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BE ABLE TO REVITALIZE OUR REDEVELOPMENT AREA. MR. MIMS CAME BACK AND WAS THINKING ABOUT USING THAT TAX CREDIT SALE HE MENTIONED EARLIER. WE BROKE DOWN DIFFERENT DOLLAR AMOUNTS FOR THIS. WE ARE NOW WITH CONTINGENCY FUNDINGS.

WE'VE BROKEN THAT DOWN FOR -- WHY Y'ALL LAUGHING? >> I DIDN'T TELL JOHN.

>> SHE JUST FAINTED. >> DON'T WORRY ABOUT JOHN. >> THIS IS JUST AN IDEA.

THESE ARE THE SAME CONCEPTS WE BROUGHT IN JULY AND OCTOBER BUT WITH DOLLAR AMOUNTS ATTACHED.

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WE HAVE THESE OUR DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS. MR. JONES REALLY TEED US OFF QUITE WELL WITH THE PLAN. NUMBER ONE IS RECRUITMENT. WE PUT OUT RFP.

IT'S A SUMMARY. WE PUT OUT AN RFP FOR RECRUITMENT CONSULTANT TO HELP US IDENTIFY THE LEAKAGE AND GAP ANALYSIS IN THE RETAIL MARKET. IN ADDITION TO REALLY UNDERSTANDING OUR MARKET IN TERMS OF PURCHASE POWER AND NOT JUST OUR BOUNDARIES IN TERMS OF JURISDICTIONAL, BUT REALLY MARKET BOUNDARIES AND DRIVE TIMES.

AND WHAT DO PEOPLE BUY? WHERE DO THEY SHOP? BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SHOPPING IN FORT PIERCE. WE ARE HOPING TO SHARE THE COSTS BETWEEN THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND THE FPRA BOARD BECAUSE SOME OF THIS FUNDING WILL BE USED FOR THE FPRA.

MOVING ON TO SOME OF OUR DIFFERENT GRANT PROGRAMS, WHICH IS WHY KALITA IS HERE BECAUSE SHE'S GOING TO HELP FACILITATE THESE. THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF OUR CDBG GRANTS. THIS IS USING OUR FPRA FUNDING. LIGHTING, SIGNAGE, PAINTING.

YOU SEE THE LIST THERE. THIS IS WHAT COMMISSIONER SESSIONS BROUGHT UP EARLIER.

COMMERCIAL INTERIOR IMPROVEMENT PLANS. THIS IS FOR THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING. THIS IS TO HELP WITH THAT. LET'S SAY IT'S FIRE SUPPRESSION OR HVAC OR PLUMBING IN SOME OF THESE HISTORIC STRUCTURES THAT HAVE SAT VACANT.

THIS IS A GRANT WE'RE LOOKING TO OFFER. SMALL BUSINESS GRANTS.

WE ARE LOOKING TO DO A BUSINESS ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THROUGH IRCE, THE SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CENTER. THEY'RE GOING TO OFFER A SERIES OF CLASSES AND PROGRAMS TO HELP ARM THEM WITH DIFFERENT RESOURCES AND EDUCATION TO HELP MAKE THEIR BUSINESS SUCCESSFUL.

AT THE COMPLETION OF THAT, THEY WILL BE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE A SMALL BUSINESS GRANT FOR MAYBE MARKETING OR WHATEVER THEY MIGHT NEED UP TO 25 TO $5,000. $2,500 TO $5,000.

AND THEN EVENT SPONSORSHIP GRANTS. DO YOU WANT TO TAKE IT?

>> YES. AT A PREVIOUS FRA CONFERENCE WE SAW THIS PRESENTATION IN REFERENCE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT TO ENCOURAGE PRIVATE CITIZENS, NOT THE CITIES TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR FESTIVALS, BUT TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT CONTINUING FESTIVALS GOING FORWARD IN THE COMMUNITY SO THAT THEY CAN CONTINUE TO SUSTAIN THEM SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO ENJOY THEM FOR YEARS AND WE DON'T HAVE TO FUND THEM DIRECTLY. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER POSSIBLY FOUR, $2,500 GRANTS TO ASSIST. WILL CONTINUE TO BRING PEOPLE TO

THE CITY. >> IT WON'T BE CITY SPONSORED ORGANIZATIONS.

IT MIGHT BE SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO HAVE A FESTIVAL. AND IT WOULD HAVE THEIR NAME ON

IT AND THEY APPLY FOR GRANTS FROM US? >> YES.

>> AND WE WOULD POSSIBLY USE THE COMMUNITY WIDE COUNCIL OR CRA ADVISORY BOARD TO SCORE THEM AND

AWARD THEM. MAKE RECOMMENDATION TO YOU. >> RIGHT.

RIGHT. >> MAYOR. >> YES, SIR.

>> MISS SCOTT AND SHARON, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT GRANTS THAT WE GIVE THE PEOPLE THAT PAY AFTERWARDS? THE EVENTS. BEFORE THE EVENTS.

>> IT WOULD PROBABLY DEPEND ON HOW WE CRAFT THE GRANT PROGRAM. THEY WOULD HAVE TO SUBMIT A BUDGET AND TELL US HOW MUCH MONEY THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IN. AND WE WOULD DECIDE THROUGH THE SCORING, HOW MUCH WE WOULD BE ABLE TO OFFER THEM. THERE COULD BE 10 PEOPLE.

>> I JUST DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, YOU TO INVITE INDIVIDUALS TO THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE AND TELL THEM THAT IF THEY PUT ON A BIG EVENT HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, AFTERWARDS, THEN YOU'LL GIVE THEM THE MONEY. BECAUSE THEY HAVE THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO DO TO PREPARE

BEFORE THE EVENTS. >> UNDERSTOOD. >> THAT WOULD ENTICE THEM TO

COME. >> I BELIEVE WE CAN CRAFT THAT IN THE GRANT PROGRAM.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> IT WOULD SEEM TO ME IT WOULD HAVE TO BE UP FRONT.

>> HALF AND HALF. >> IT WOULD HAVE TO BE HALF AND HALF IT SEEMS LIKE.

BECAUSE WHAT IF SOMETHING CHANGED OR WEATHER. >> DOWN PAYMENT.

>> YOU NEED TO PROTECT THE CITY. >> WE HAVE SUNSHINE. WHAT DO YOU CALL IT THE INSURANCE YOU PAY FOR BEFORE THE EVENT? WHAT DO YOU CALL IT?

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YOU PAY FOR INSURANCE -- >> EVENT INSURANCE. >> YEAH.

SO IF SOMETHING HAS TO BE CANCELED FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU DON'T HOLD THEM RESPONSIBLE

FOR THE MONIES THEY SPENT. >> THAT WOULD BE UP TO THEM TO OBTAIN THEIR OWN INSURANCE.

THAT WOULD BE PART OF THEIR PROPOSAL AND SOMETHING YOU WOULD EVALUATE DURING THE SCORING.

>> THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS THE $2,500 SELECTION. IT SEEMS LIKE WE WOULD MAKE THAT SMALLER. I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT ABOUT EVERY ONE OF THESE.

IT SAYS UP TO $2,500. IT SEEMS LIKE A LARGE NUMBER WHEN WE'RE ONLY ALLOCATING

$10,000. >> IT WOULD BE UP TO -- YES, SIR.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT TO BRING UP. >> EVERY ONE OF THESE I HAD A

QUESTION ON THAT. >> ABSOLUTELY. WE LOOKED AT OTHER CRAS IN FLORIDA AND KIND OF WHAT THEIR GRANT STRUCTURES ARE. WE DO NOT WANT TO LIMIT THEM TO LET'S SAY $5,000 IF THEY'RE WILLING TO PUT UP $25,000 OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.

IT'S A MATCHING GRANT. IN ORDER TO PUT IN THESE CORRIDORS,THEY'RE BLIGHTED AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THAT MAYBE WE CAN GO UP TO -- BASED ON THEIR APPLICATION, BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DO, IT COULD GO UP TO THAT AMOUNT.

BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO ALL BE 25,000. >> YEAH, I JUST THINK BECAUSE SOME, ESPECIALLY FOR THE EVENT PART OF IT, SOME OF THEM ARE JUST SEASONAL.

SO IF YOU HAVE A FISCAL YEAR, WE TIE IT IN TO THESE HARD NUMBERS AND THEN I HAVE FIVE APPLICANTS, YOU KNOW, AND EVERYBODY HAS AN EVENT FROM NOVEMBER TO MARCH. AND THEN THE SUMMER COMES AND

OH. >> ALL OF THE MONEY IS GONE. >> ALL OF OUR MONEY IS GONE.

>> IT'S TRUE. WELL WE ONLY HAVE $150,000 TO WORK WITH.

>> IT'S GOING TO BE GONE ANYWAY. >> THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE WAS FACADE SIDE IMPROVEMENT GRANTS.

>> YES. >> JUST IN WHAT I DO ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS, PARKING LOT AND PAVEMENT IMPROVEMENTS. SOMETIMES RESTRIPING AND SEALING A PARKING LOT, THAT'S FAIRLY INEXPENSIVE. IT'S NOT VERY, WHAT'S THE WORD? IT'S NOT VERY LAVISH AND SEXY.

I DON'T LIKE USING THE WORD. BUT YES, YOU'RE RIGHT, THOUGH. SAFETY LIGHTING.

>> MAYOR, PG. >> IT'S PG. I DON'T KNOW.

I GUESS THOSE TWO BULLETS. I UNDERSTAND THEM. IT'S JUST PART OF IT --

>> YOU WANT TO KEEP IT MORE APPEALING? >> I FEEL LIKE YOU GET MORE BANG

FOR YOUR DOLLAR IN THE FIRST EIGHT THAN YOU DO THE LAST TWO. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> THAT'S JUST MY SENTIMENT. BECAUSE NOES -- NO ONE NOTICES WHEN YOU RESTRIPE OR RESEAL.

>> YES, SIR. >> YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? ONCE YOU IMPROVE A BUILDING, IT

MORPHS IN TO IMPROVING THE PARKING LOT. >> YES, SIR.

>> I WANT TO TIE IN TO THESE EVENTS. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SAFETY LIGHTING. DIDN'T WE HAVE A PROGRAM COME BY US THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO EVALUATE OUR LIGHTING? SYSTEM. STREET LIGHTING.

>> WE -- >> ESCROW. WHAT'S IT CALLED?

>> RECENTLY COMPLETED -- >> OH, THAT'S COMPLETED. >> THE PERFORMANCE.

I FORGOT WHAT IT'S CALLED. I SPENT A COUPLE OF YEARS ON THAT.

>> ESCO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> PERFORMANCE SOMETHING. YES.

>> SO WE, ESPECIALLY IN OUR MARINA AREA WHERE YOU WANT TO HAVE THESE FUNCTIONS.

IS THE LIGHTING THERE SAFETY FOR THE PARKING PEOPLE. THERE'S PARKING THAT I SEE.

PARKING ON RIVER DRIVE THAT GET ALL THE TICKETS. >> IS EXISTING LIGHTING SAFE?

>> 2,000 PEOPLE IN THIS CITY. YOU KNOW. WHERE THEY GOING TO PARK?

THEY PARK ALONG THE ROADWAY AND THEN THEY GET TICKETS. >> THEY SHOULDN'T PARK ALONG THE

ROADWAY. >> THEY SHOULDN'T. BUT YOU TELL SOMEBODY THEY'VE

GOT TO WALK FROM ONE END TO -- >> YES, SIR. >> HUH?

>> I HEAR YOU. WE DO HAVE AMPLE PARKING ESPECIALLY IN OUR DOWNTOWN.

THAT IS LIGHTED. TO INCLUDE OUR GARAGES AND OUR SURFACE PARKING AREAS.

IN THE AREAS THAT FOLKS ARE CURRENTLY PARKING NOW THAT THEY'RE BEING TOWED, THEY SHOULDN'T BE THERE. I THINK OUR PARKING AND LIGHTING IS SUFFICIENT IN OUR AREAS.

BUT IF THERE'S ANY TYPE OF DARK SPOTS OR LOW LIGHTING, WE DO HAVE THAT INSPECTED.

AND WE IMPROVE AS NEEDED. >> OKAY. THAT'S WHY I SAY CONANDERSON WAS

SUPPOSED TO COME IN AND EVALUATE OUR LIGHTING. >> EDISON REPLACED AND UTILIZED

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THE SAVINGS OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF FIXTURES TO REDUCE CONSUMPTION TO PAY OFF DEBT.

IT WAS A LOAN THAT WE ACQUIRED. AND OUR SAVINGS PAYS OFF THE DEBT.

SO IT'S A NET-NET. AND WE GOT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FROM THAT.

>> OKAY. >> YES, SIR. >> I WAS THINKING THERE'S SOMETHING THEY CAN LOOK FORWARD TO BUT IT'S GONE. IT'S COMPLETED.

>> THAT IS COMPLETE. YES, SIR. >> YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?

ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD. >> I NOTICE ON OUR LIST OF THINGS TO DO FOR OUR GRANT DOLLARS WE HAVE WINDOWS AND DOORS.

THERE WAS AN EFFORT BY THE UTILITIES AUTHORITY HERE SEVERAL MONTHS BACK TO ADDRESS THAT BY

WAY OF SAYING INSULATION IMPROVEMENTS. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> AND WE APPROACHED THEM TO MAKE OUR POT A LITTLE THICKER? >> WITH THE WEATHERIZATION

PROGRAM? >> YEAH. WE'RE GOING TO ADMINISTER THE GRANT AND MAKE THEIR JOB A LOT EASIER IF WE GET FUNDS FROM THEM.

>> SIR, WE DO HAVE A WEATHERIZATION PROGRAM THAT WE PARTNER WITH.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A MILD PARTNERSHIP AMOUNT. I BELIEVE IN THE LARGER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY UTILIZING THE TAX CERTIFICATE REVENUE, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LARGER CHUNK DEDICATED TO THOSE RESIDENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS. SO I DO BELIEVE THAT PARTNERSHIP WILL BE STRONG. NOW WITH THIS, THIS IS MORE SO COMMERCIAL.

>> COSMETIC. >> YEAH. I DON'T BELIEVE THE FPUA HAS

COMMERCIAL -- >> RESIDENTIAL. >> PROGRAM.

>> THEY CAN CREATE ONE. >> THAT WOULD BE UP TO THAT BOARD, SIR.

>> WE'VE GOT AMBASSADORS RIGHT HERE. >> IT'S POSSIBLE.

IT'S POSSIBLE. >> I ONLY REQUEST. >> I JUST WANT TO BRING UP ONE THING TO BE MINDFUL OF. THE FESTIVALS, ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DIDN'T WANT CRAS TO DO IS TO FUND FESTIVALS. AND SO NOW THIS, WE'RE EMBARKING ON THIS.

AND SO I WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS THAT DROVE THEM TO SAY NO FESTIVAL. I DON'T KNOW WHY. I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY WERE AGAINST THAT. USING THE FPRCRA MONEY. I THINK WE OUGHT TO BE MINDFUL OF ANYTHING THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S NOT ABSOLUTELY PARTICULARLY VALID AND JUSTIFIABLE.

>> MADAME MAYOR. >> YES, SIR. >> WE CAN DECIDE ON THE SAFETY

END OF THE COMMUNITY WHEN THEY HAVE THESE EVENTS. >> YEAH.

>> SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOME SAFETY COMPONENT WHETHER THEY GOT TO HAVE SECURITY.

>> THEY HAVE TO HAVE PERMITS FROM US ANYWAY. IF THEY'RE GOING TO CLOSE OFF A STREET, THEY HAVE TO HAVE POLICE, PUBLIC SAFETY. SO THERE'S ALL KINDS OF REQUIREMENTS. ALL RIGHT. SO DO YOU NEED MOTION ON THIS?

>> YES. FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE STRATEGY

WITH THE ASSOCIATED FUNDING. >> SO MOVED. >> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND. >> CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. >> MR. SESSIONS.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> MR. ALEXANDER. >> YES, MA'AM.

[H. FPRA Resolution 20-01 reappointing members to the CRA Advisory Board.]

>> -- >> THE NEXT IS FPRA RESOLUTION 20-01, A RESOLUTION OF THE FORT PIERCE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY. THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE, FLORIDA, CERTIFYING THE APPOINTMENT OR REAPPOINTMENT OF MEMBERS TO THE AGENCY ADVISORY COMMUNITY PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. ALL OF OUR INDIVIDUAL APPOINTEES, THEIR TERMS HAVE EXPIRED. SO THIS RESOLUTION SIMPLY REAPPOINTS ALL OF THEM.

IF THAT IS YOUR DESIRE. >> AND I'VE TALKED TO MINE, AND HE WANTS TO BE REAPPOINTED.

I ASSUME EVERYONE WANTS TO BE REAPPOINTED. I ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE.

>> COMMISSIONER ALEXANDER. >> YES, MA'AM. >> CHAIRWOMAN HUDSON.

[I. FPRA Programs and Activities Update - First Quarter FY 2020.]

>> YES, MA'AM. >> WE HAVE ACTIVITIES UPDATE. >> YES, MADAM CHAIR, WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN EVERY QUARTERLY MEETING. SO WHAT WE'VE DONE, WE HAVE A LITTLE PROGRAM AND ACTIVITY SUMMARY. THOSE PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES INCLUDE KINGS LANDING. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EXTENSIVELY.

WE ALSO HAVE THE LINDSEY SCHOOLS OF THE ARTS. WE HAVE A VERY EXCITING GROUP TRYING TO RAISE MONEY AND REDEVELOP THAT FACILITY. MISS HELMS TALKED ABOUT

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RECRUITMENT. THE SUNRISE THEATER. AS YOU KNOW THE FPRA IS THE LARGEST CONTRIBUTE AND SPONSOR OF THE SUNRISE THEATER. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER IN THE EVENING.

WE TALKED ABOUT CA MOORE AND WE TALKED ABOUT DAN MCCARTE MILLER. OUR TWO OFFICERS.

THEY HAVE A STRONG PRESENCE IN THOSE SCHOOLS. WE'RE WORKING NOW TO UTILIZE OUR SEGWAY PATROLLERS. I'M SURE THE KIDS WILL LOVE THAT, TOO.

THERE'S A GROUP CALLED THE LINCOLN PARK YOUNG PROCONF PROCONFPROCON PROFESSIONALS. THEY DID A PRESENTATION.

YOU ALL DIRECTED ME TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SOLICITATION AND THE ADVERTISING OF THAT OPPORTUNITY DIRECTLY TO THE WEST OF THE LINCOLN THEATER AND THAT IS MOVING ALONG.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT IS ADVERTISED FOR BIDS NOW. AND BIDS ARE DUE FEBRUARY 11TH.

WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THIS UPDATE. AND WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS EVERY

TIME WE MEET THAT WAY YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON. >> I APPRECIATE THAT.

ANY DISCUSSION? SHALL WE MOVE ON? >> NEXT IS THE FORT PIERCE

[J. Fort Pierce Redevelopment Agency Funding Expenditure Details]

REDEVELOPMENT EXPENDITURE FUNDING DETAILS. >> THIS AGAIN IS GOING TO PROVIDE YOU A LIST OF OUR EXPENDITURES FROM OUR BOND FUNDS,THE SUNSHINE LOAN FUNDS THAT ARE REPAID BY TIFF REVENUE. AND ALSO THE OPERATING FUNDS THAT WERE USED IN PREVIOUS YEARS TO FUND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. WE'RE GOING TO UPDATE THIS. YOU'LL HAVE THAT, THAT WAY IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO KNOW, IT WILL BE THERE FOR YOU AND UPDATED ON A

RECURRING BASIS. >> I APPRECIATE BOTH OF THESE. I APPRECIATE THESE.

BECAUSE THIS IS SINCE THE BEGINNING, I THINK. >> YES.

WELL SINCE WE GOT THE BOND. I MEAN, THE BEGINNING IN 1982, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THAT.

. >> NO. RIGHT.

YOU STARTED HAVING MONEY TO SPEND. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? OKAY. >> NEXT WE HAVE STAFF COMMENTS.

[9. STAFF COMMENTS]

>> MR. BIMS. >> I THINK I'VE SPOKEN ENOUGH. BUT I THINK THERE'S GREAT VALUE SEEING CHARLIE IN THE AUDIENCE THIS LONG. I THINK IT'S AMAZING WE'VE HELD HIS ATTENTION FOR THIS LONG. BUT JUST HAVING YOU ALL TO HAVE A RELAXED ENVIRONMENT TO MAKE DECISIONS TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS, I REALLY LIKE THE FORMAT OF HAVING THIS ON THE INDIVIDUAL BASIS.

WE'RE NOT RUSHED. AND I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT IF THAT MEETS WITH YOUR

APPROVAL. >> I LIKE THIS, TOO. BECAUSE WHEN WE MEET AT 5:30 AND THEN WE HAVE A 6:30 COMMISSION MEETING, WE HAVE RUSHED SOME BIG DECISIONS.

>> YES, WE HAVE. >> AND I WOULD RATHER NOT DO THAT.

SO I AM OKAY WITH THIS FORMAT. EVERYBODY ELSE OKAY WITH THIS? >> YES.

>> IN TERMS OF HAVING MORE TIME. >> I LIKE IT EARLY. EARLY IN THE AFTERNOON.

>> YUP. >> IT'S GOOD. >> EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT

AFTERNOON ANYMORE. >> YEAH. >> STILL GOT IN TO THE EVENING.

BUT IT'S OKAY. >> YEAH. MR. SWEENEY.

>> MADAME MAYOR, I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD. BUT I'LL BE LOOKING AT THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS PROVIDED AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK AS APPROPRIATE.

[10. BOARD COMMENTS]

>> BOARD COMMENTS? >> COMMISSIONER AL -- ALEXANDER.

>> I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 3 O'CLOCK AND I ONLY HEARD LINCOLN PARK MENTIONED ONE TIME BY THE PROFESSIONALS. AND I HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THIS FPRA BOARD NOT SUPPORTING THE REVITALIZATION OF LINCOLN THEATER. THE BIG CONTRIBUTOR TO THE SUNRISE THEATER. THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 18 YEARS.

I KNOW THE FIRST YEAR I CAME ABOARD. YOU KNOW, WE GAVE THEM A MILLION DOLLARS THAT YEAR. NOW THAT'S ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. I'VE ASKED SEVERAL TIMES WHY WE CAN'T ASSIST LINCOLN THEATER TO GET OPEN. I'VE GOT 101 EXCUSES.

I STILL THINK THAT WE, THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE OWE THE CITIZENS. THEY'RE PROBABLY AFRAID TO --

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THAT LINCOLN THEATER IS GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL. THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T WANT TO

SUPPORT IT. >> WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO RESPOND TO THAT?

>> YES. >> REPRESENTATIVE NOT FROM THE LINCOLN THEATER.

BUT I BELIEVE LINCOLN PARK MAIN STREET IS PARTNERING WITH THE MARTIN LUTHER KING COMMEMORATIVE COMMUNITY IDENTIFYING GRANTS AND OTHER FORMS OF REVENUE TO WORK TOWARD THE REHABILITATION AND RESTORATION OF THAT FACILITY. AS YOU RECALL, THE CITY OF FORT PIERCE RECENTLY EXECUTED A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT. AND WE WILL AND WE HAVE EVERY INTENTION TO WORK WITH THE LINCOLN THEATER GROUP, THE MARTIN LUTHER KING COMMEMORATIVE COMMITTEE TO HELP THEM ALONG THEIR WAY. SO IT'S MOVING VERY SLOW. AND I CAN SAY THAT.

I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT. >> WE'RE NOT GETTING THE

EXPEDITIOUS SUPPORT. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT AGAIN, IT'S THE SUPPORT THAT THE FPRA, YOU KNOW, CITY IS FINE. BUT THE FPRA.

IT'S IN THEIR DISTRICT. IT'S LISTED IN THE OBLIGATIONS OF THE FPRA.

I WAS STROLLING THROUGH IT. I WAS ONE OF THE MAIN THING THAT IT WAS SAYING WE NEED TO

SUPPORT. >> YES, SIR. >> SO AGAIN, WHAT TROUBLING ME IT WASN'T MENTIONED IN ANY REPORT. THAT'S A HISTORICAL PLACE.

IT'S OLDER THAN YOU. I'M TELLING YOU. YEAH, IT IS.

>> YES, SIR. >> YOUR MOTHER AND FATHER USED TO GO ON DATES THERE.

>> I KNOW, THEY TOLD ME. COMMISSIONER, I TELL YOU WHAT, IF IT'S OKAY WITH THIS BOARD, I CAN SEE IF I CAN GET A MEMBER OF THE MARTIN LUTHER KING COMMEMORATIVE COMMITTEE HERE AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT AND UPDATE AS TO THE ACTIVITIES IN HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER WITH THE FPRA.

>> ABSOLUTELY. I'D RATHER IT BE BEFORE THE BOARD, THE COMPLETE BOARD.

>> OKAY. >> IS THAT IT? >> YES.

>> COMMISSIONER SESSIONS. >> ANOTHER THING, TOO, IF WE DO IN FACT MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION AND WE START TALKING ABOUT SOME INVESTMENTS, I HOPE THAT WE, TO COME DEGREE, A PARTNER IN THE ACTUAL INVESTMENTS THEMSELVES. WHERE WE PARTNERSHIP UP WITH THE LINCOLN PARK COMMITTEE.

>> YES, SIR. >> IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT TAX PAYERS MONEY IN TO IT.

THEN TAXPAYERS NEED TO HAVE SOME INPUT ON THEIR INVESTMENTS. >> GOTCHA.

>> NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF DONATING MONEY. TO HAVE THE BEST INTEREST OF THE

TAXPAYERS TAKEN CARE OF. >> YES, SIR. >> IS THAT IT?

>> YEAH. >> COMMISSIONER JOHNSON. >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

NOT TOO MANY COMMENTS. THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD OCCURRENCES THAT HAPPENED TODAY.

A LOT OF BIG DECISIONS. A LOT OF MOVEMENT. APPRECIATE THE STAFF'S INPUT.

YOUR RESEARCH. YOUR ACTIVITY. YOU'VE GOT MULTIPLE HATS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU TO OUR TEAM FOR COMING HERE AND SPENDING TIME WITH US AND SHARING WITH US ALL THE -- YOUR EXPERTISE AND GOOD NEWS. AND LOOK FOR A BRIGHT FUTURE.

>> YEAH. IT WAS REALLY A LOT OF GOOD ITEMS. A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION TODAY. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S WORK, TOO.

I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT OUR FPRA BORDERS GO ALL THE WAY TO 33RD STREET.

THERE'S A VAST AREA OUT THERE THAT NEEDS SOME ATTENTION. THAT IS INDEED BLIGHTED.

AND I THINK THAT WE ONLY HAVE SO MUCH MONEY AND WE'RE MOVING WESTWARD.

BUT I THINK WE'VE DONE A LOT OF CONCENTRATING IN THE FOUR AREAS THAT WE HAVE.

BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT OF TERRITORY IN THE FPRA THAT NEEDS SOME ATTENTION.

>> WORK TO DO. YES, MA'AM. >> AND I KNOW THERE'S ONLY SO

MUCH MONEY. >> MADAME MAYOR. >> YES, SIR.

>> I WANT THEM TO SPEND JUST AS MUCH MONEY AS YOU SPEND ON THE BEACH AND YOU SPEND DOWNTOWN.

I WANT YOU TO SPEND IT WEST OF U.S. 1. >> ME, TOO.

>> IT'S US. WE'RE THE ONE THAT MAKES THOSE DECISIONS.

>> BUT THE MONEY ONLY GOES TO . THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. >> I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE

SAYING. BUT PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING. >> OKAY.

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